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[00:00:02]

ALL RIGHT, WITH

[I. Call to Order]

THE QUORUM BEING PRESENT, I WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AT THE, UM, MAY MEETING OF THE CAP METRO BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

UH, TODAY IS MAY 18TH, MONDAY, MAY 18TH.

THE TIME IS 1204.

RIGHT? UH, LOOKS LIKE WE HA WE'RE GONNA BE MISSING BOARD MEMBER ROSS, WHO'S TRAVELING.

YES.

AND OUR PRESIDENT, UM, WATKINS IS ATTENDING AN APTA MOBILITY CONFERENCE AND IS OFF THE DAIS, BUT SHE'S ABLELY REPRESENTED.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT, THAT BEING

[II. Safety Briefing]

SAID, UH, LET'S MOVE INTO OUR SAFETY BRIEFING.

UH, MR. TABBAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS GARDNER TABBAN.

I SERVE AS CAPITAL METRO'S EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF SAFETY OFFICER HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH, UH, THE BOARDROOM SAFETY BRIEFING.

SO YOU ARE LOCATED HERE AT 29 10 EAST FIFTH STREET.

YOU'RE IN THE ROSA PARKS, UH, BOARDROOM.

IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO EVACUATE, WE ASK THAT YOU USE EITHER ONE OF THESE DOORS, UM, LEADING TO THE SIDEWALK OVER THERE AND MEETING AT THE RALLY POINT.

YOU'LL SEE A GREEN AND WHITE SIGN THAT WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO STOP AND WHERE WE'LL, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION THERE.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY MOBILITY CHALLENGES AND YOU'RE ASKED TO LEAVE FROM, UH, THE DOOR RIGHT THERE, PLEASE WAIT ON THE UPPER LANDING SO THAT SOMEONE CAN ESCORT YOU DOWN.

IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO USE AN A ED, THERE'S ONE BY THE ELEVATOR RIGHT TO THE LEFT OF IT.

UM, ALSO, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE FAVORITE PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.

THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

I WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUE AS USUAL FOR POINTING IT OUT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES, UH, YOUR, YOUR SAFETY BRIEFING, SIR.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. TEON.

I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE EXPECTING A FIRE TODAY.

NO, WE ARE NOT, SIR.

WE'RE NOT JUST IN CASE.

JUST IN CASE.

JUST MAKING SURE.

JUST MAKING SURE.

OUR NEXT ITEM

[III. Public Comment]

WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT.

EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, UNLESS THEY'RE SPEAKING ON TWO AGENDA ITEMS OR ARE REPRESENTING A GROUP WITH MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN THE ROOM.

IN THAT CASE, THEY'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN ADVANCE TO SPEAK AND UH, THE FIRST OF THOSE WILL BE MR. RYAN SAUNDERS.

MR. SAUNDERS, IF YOU'LL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, UM, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

UH, HELLO EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

UM, I WANTED TO COME TO TALK ABOUT PLAZA TIO AND THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I'M ON THE EAST CHAVEZ NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD IN HOLLY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

AND IN THE PAST, UH, TWO, TWO PLUS YEARS OF INVOLVEMENT, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY UPDATE ABOUT THE PLAN CLOSURE OR STOP OF SERVICE OF THE COMMUTER RAIL INTO DOWNTOWN.

UM, NOR ANY UPDATES AS TO WHAT IMPACT THE DOUBLE TRACKING WILL HAVE ON THE PLAZA.

UM, IE HOW LONG IT WILL BE CLOSED AND IF IT WILL LOSE AREA GOING BACKWARDS A BIT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CAP METRO LEASED PLAZA ALT TO THE CITY UNTIL 2018 AND THEN ASSUMED CONTROL, UH, AGAIN, AT THAT TIME I WAS INFORMED THAT EVENT RENTALS PUBLIC USE OF THE PLAZA WAS CEASED AFTER A PUBLIC, A PILOT PROJECT EVENT IN 2024.

I ASKED WHAT CAUSED THAT DECISION AND WHAT BARRIERS EXISTED THAT PREVENTED MORE PUBLIC USE OF THE SPACE AND DID NOT GET A RESPONSE.

I HAVE ALSO INQUIRED IF ANY OF THE BARRIERS THAT WERE PREVENTING EVENTS OR THAT CAUSED THE STOPPING OF PUBLIC USE IN 2024 WERE BEING ADDRESSED DURING THE UPCOMING DOUBLE TRACKING CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO DID NOT GET ANY DETAILS.

THE PLAZA COULD SERVE AS AN ANCHOR FOR THE WHOLE AREA AND BRING PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FROM SIXTH STREET CLOSING THE GAP OF DEAD SPACE, WHICH IS CAUSING ISSUES FOR RETAIL IN THE SALTILLO CORRIDOR.

THE RETAIL AREA SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A SUCCESS AND A MAJOR SHIFT IN ENERGY AND STRATEGY WOULD BE NEEDED TO ENCOURAGE NEW INTERESTS.

THERE'S A GAP IN ALL ACTIVITIES WITH PUBLIC PROJECTS WHERE THEY FEEL UNFINISHED AND INCOMPLETE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN BE BUILT, BUT ITS IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY OR HOW IT WILL SERVE THE PUBLIC OFTEN SEEMS IGNORED.

I WOULD ASK TO PLEASE OPEN UP A DIALOGUE WITH INTERESTED PARTIES TO BRING PLAZA SALTILLO AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO ITS FULL POTENTIAL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND LET'S SEE THE NEXT PERSON, OH, SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

UH, YOU READ OUR MINDS.

THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL HAVE A MEMBER OF STAFF TALK WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, THE NEXT PERSON I THINK WHO IS IN PERSON IS LAURA CORDERO.

HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT.

IS LAURA HERE, MR. CHAIR?

[00:05:01]

I HAVE NOT SEEN MS. CORDERO JOIN US THIS MORNING.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

I'LL PUT CIRCLED THERE.

UM, NEXT THEN, UH, AND WOULD BE REMOTELY, UM, MS. JOSEPH, MR. CHAIR.

I ALSO HAVE NOT SEEN MS. JOSEPH JOIN YET.

HOWEVER, SHE DID DID JUST SEND ME AN EMAIL.

SO I EXPECT HER TO JOIN.

I'LL TRY TO CATCH YOUR EYE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NEXT WILL BE, UM, I THINK ALSO REMOTE, UH, CYNTHIA WASHINGTON AND HER HUSBAND RAINIER.

UM, VEA VILLA, UH, VIA, UM, ARE THEY HERE? I HAVE NOT SEEN THEM EITHER, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL KEEP IT ROLLING THEN.

UM, WHAT ABOUT BRENT PAYNE? OKAY.

HOW YOU DOING, MR. CHAIR? GOOD TO SEE YOU, HUH? IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

UH, AGAIN, I WAS HERE LAST MONTH AND I TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT A COUPLE OF A TU 10 90 ONES CONCERNS BOTH IN NEGOTIATIONS AND IN AVAILABILITY OF TRAINING AND SAFETY FOR THE OPERATORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT THERE.

UH, HADN'T HAD ANYTHING CHANGED AS OF YET.

UH, FAR AS SAFETY AND TRAINING, A TU HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TRAINING WE DO FOR NEW HIRES.

I WOULD HOPE PEOPLE WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE ATTRITION RATE FOR NEW HIRES THAT WE HIRE? WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN TAXPAYERS SPEND A LOT OF MONEY TO TRAIN PEOPLE TO DRIVE OUR UNITS.

AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE DRIVING FOR SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS AFTER WE'VE SPENT TWO MONTHS TRAINING THEM.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.

SO A TU WOULD HOPEFULLY LET THE BOARD OR WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO CHECK INTO THAT OR ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND THEN EVERYBODY'S OTHER CONCERN.

WE HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH KEOLIS NORTH AMERICA SINCE I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER OF 2025.

UH, OUR BARGAINING EMPLOYEES WERE SCHEDULED TO HAVE THEIR FIRST WAGE INCREASE JANUARY 1ST, 2026.

THAT HAS NOT YET HAPPENED.

UM, WE ARE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS.

I WAS ABLE TO GET A NEGOTIATIONS DATE FOR THURSDAY, 10:00 AM THIS WEEK.

HEU HAS ALREADY GIVEN THEM THEIR PROPOSAL.

WE ARE AWAITING THEIR COUNTER PROPOSAL.

I I GAVE A LONG DRAWN OUT THING ABOUT FOUNDATION AND TAKING CARE OF YOUR BARGAINING EMPLOYEES AND EVERYBODY THAT YOU TALK TO IN PERSON ALWAYS SAYS, WE CARE.

WE CARE, WE CARE.

THEN WHY HAVE I BEEN IN NEGOTIATION SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR? I MEAN, WE TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM OVERTIME DURING THE WEEK OF A HOLIDAY, OVERTIME AFTER EIGHT, UH, VACATION BEING PAID, YOUR ACTUAL VACATION TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE FAMILIAR.

WE BID ON OUR RUNS.

SO IF MY RUN PAYS 44 HOURS, WE WANT TO GET PAID 44 HOURS.

BUT WHEN WE ON VACATION, WE LOSE PAY.

SO SOMEBODY LIKE ME WHO GETS SIX WEEKS OF VACATION, MY PAY WILL DROP THOSE SIX WEEKS.

WE DON'T FEEL THAT'S FAIR.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE BID IT ON AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP OR HAVE.

UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, AUSTIN IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PLACES TO LIVE.

75% OF OUR WORKFORCE CAN'T LIVE IN AUSTIN.

THAT'S HOW EXPENSIVE IS.

AND WE WANT TO BE PAID A LIVABLE WAGE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A LIVABLE WAGE.

I MEAN, WE, WE SEE ALL THE SHINY THINGS THAT CAPITOL METRO IS ABLE TO AFFORD.

THE COMMUNITY, THE NICE BUSES, THE NICE, YOU KNOW, BUS STOPS.

SOME OF THESE BUS STOPS LOOK BETTER THAN MY HOUSE.

SO LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, COMING IN, SPEAKING TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE.

UM, HAVE WE HAD ANYBODY JOIN US? YOU HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY JOIN US? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE ROOM THIS AFTERNOON THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? ANYONE ELSE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? ANYONE ELSE? WELL, HEARING NONE THEN, UH, WE'LL GO TO OUR BOARD ADVISORY COMMITTEE UPDATES.

MR. BRADEN IS, UH, HERE TO GIVE US THOSE.

MR. BRADEN, GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR REBELLION.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

LEMME OF COURSE.

LET'S SEE.

THERE WAS, UM, THERE WAS ONE NAME.

IS IS THERE A, UH, LET'S SEE.

I CAN'T READ THE NAME.

VEIL IS A YES.

ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

I, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T.

UH,

[00:10:01]

YOU SHOULD BE A DOCTOR.

YOU SHOULD BE A DOCTOR.

PRESCRIPTIONS.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS EK.

I WORK UNDER CAPITAL METRO.

17 YEARS.

UH, BACK AND FORTH DIFFERENT, BUT RIGHT NOW UNDER OLAS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

OLAS, RIGHT NOW, CORPORATION PLAY WITH OUR MONEY.

OUR MONEY IS WAIVER.

I'M 70 YEARS OLD, MEDICARE 2024.

I HAVE PAY MEDICARE WAIVER.

NEVER NOBODY ASK ME FOR PROOF.

2025, THEY STOP.

THEY DON'T MY FAULT.

I SO NOT PARTICULAR CHECK EVERY PAYCHECK ACCIDENTALLY.

I FEEL BECAUSE MY HUSBAND START WORK HERE, HE GOT A WAIVER AND I'M LIKE, WHAT? AND I GO ASK YES, 2026 YOU HAVE PAY 20, 25.

NOT WHEN I TRY HARD UNDERSTAND WHY.

NO ANSWER.

NO WAY.

WE DON'T PAY YOU.

THAT IS CORPORATION ANSWER.

I SAYS, OKAY, GIVE ME THE PROOF WHEN I DON'T DO IT.

MY JOB, THIS IS FROM THE APRIL, I'VE NEVER RECEIVED PROOF.

THEY ASK ME FOR MY MEDICARE CARD AND I FIGHT WITH THEM.

AND ONE THING THAT'S NOT ONLY ME, THIS MISTAKE WHAT OLA HAS DONE.

I'M ONLY ONE BECAUSE I GO PM WORK.

THAT'S, I COME HERE TO YOU GUYS.

MAYBE YOU HELP US FIGURE OUT WHAT'S RIGHT, WHAT IS WRONG.

OLA IS RIGHT OR WE ARE WRONG, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND IT TO THE KIS IS HERE.

WE'LL ENSURE THAT SOMEBODY WORKS WITH YOU TO ADDRESS THAT.

THAT'S, I GOT IT.

PROOF.

'CAUSE THAT SAYS I'M NOT DO CORRECT PAPERWORK.

THANK YOU.

I CAN GIVE IT.

OH, I GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

ANYONE EL UM, OKAY.

UM, MR. CHAIR, I BELIEVE I SAW MS. WASHINGTON JOIN MS. WASHINGTON.

ARE YOU ON THE LINE WITH US? IF YOU'LL PRESS STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE, YOU'LL BECOME UNMUTED.

MS. WASHINGTON, ARE YOU WITH US? NO, THIS IS MS. JOSEPH.

OH, I'M SORRY.

MS. JOSEPH IS WITH US.

OKAY.

MS. JOSEPH, DO YOU NEED ME TO MUTE? WE ARE READY FOR YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MS. MS. JOSEPH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR MEMBERS.

I'M ENOVIA JOSEPH.

MY COMMENTS, AS THEY ALWAYS ARE, ARE IN THE CONTEXT OF TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, WHICH PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RACE, COLOR, AND NATIONAL ORIGIN.

I JUST WANTED TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION, I DID SEND MR. EASTON SOME SLIDES, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF HE WAS ABLE TO PULL THEM UP.

YOUR SLIDE IS ON.

THERE'S A I YOUR SLIDE IS ON THE SCREEN.

MS. JOSEPH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO IF YOU'LL LOOK, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT UH, MY OPPOSITION IS TO THE $145.8 MILLION, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS SPECIFICALLY THE RIO GRANDE PACIFIC CORPORATION COMMUTER RAIL MAINTENANCE OF WEIGHT AND SIGNAL SYSTEMS. WHILE THIS MAY BE A NECESSITY, I JUST WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE LACK OF INVESTMENT NORTHEAST OF US.

180 3 AS I CONSISTENTLY SPEAK ABOUT.

SO YOU HAVE A SECOND ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE RAIL.

THAT'S $26.3 MILLION.

ITEM NUMBER SIX, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY IS A MODERN RAILWAY SYSTEMS. IT'S INDEFINITE DELIVERY, INDEFINITE QUANTITY, RAILROAD CONSTRUCTION AND REHABILITATION SERVICES.

I WANT YOU TO COMPARE THAT TO THE DEAR OF FUNDING THAT YOU HAVE PLACED NORTHEAST OF US.

180 3.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE THAT'S ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE USED INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BENCH THAT IS

[00:15:01]

PLACED AT BERG AND MIDDLE FISHVILLE.

THIS IS A BRAND NEW SHELTER OR SO IT SEEMS FROM A DISTANCE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE FAR RIGHT CORNER, YOU'LL SEE THAT I TOOK THIS PICTURE ON MAY 16TH, 2026.

IT'S USED JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DAY IN CIVIL RIGHTS ERA WHEN BLACK PEOPLE USED TO GET USED TEXTBOOKS.

THIS IS SUBSTANDARD, BUT MUNIEZ HAS AN IDIQ CONTRACT FOR $36 MILLION.

I WANNA REMIND YOU THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS SOUTH DAPHNE AND SOUTH FIRST IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA.

YOU HAVE INVESTED ABOUT $9.9 MILLION IN THE NETWORK ALONE.

$0 NORTHEAST OF US, 180 3.

AND I WANNA REMIND YOU THE MEMO THAT'S ON THE SCREEN IS FROM SHARMILA MUKERJEE NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025.

SPECIFICALLY, SHE SAID THAT HALF OF THE OPTIMIZED STOPS WERE ON RUN BIRD, NEARLY 5,000 DAILY RIDERS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THESE ARE PLAIN SIDEWALKS.

IT IS NOT TERRACOTTA.

IT'S NOT MULTIMODAL.

NEXT SLIDE.

I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU ABOUT THE FATALITIES THAT CONTINUE TO OCCUR ON NORTH LAMAR.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE MANY TIMES BEFORE.

I PRESENTED THIS TO THE BOND ELECTION ADVISORY TASK FORCE AS WELL.

AND I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT ON MAY 19TH, 2025, I MENTIONED THAT SAFETY IS NOT YOUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT WHILE THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS INSTALLING TWO PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS, WHICH ARE SOUTH OF THE PICTURE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THAT DOES NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AT YEAGER AND NORTH LAMAR, SPECIFICALLY THE LADY THAT YOU SEE IN THIS PICTURE, I'VE BEEN ON THE NUMBER ONE WITH HER AND SHE CROSSES MIDBLOCK AND THEN SHE TAKES HER LIFE IN HER HANDS AND TRAVELS DOWN TO THE BUS STOP.

THE METROPOLITAN PARK IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN PROPERTY IS ON THE LEFT.

ONCE AGAIN, DOTTIE WATKINS HAS REFUSED TO CLOSE THESE MID-BLOCK STOPS.

AND YOU ARE IN COLLUSION WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT ZERO.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF AS WELL IS THAT YOU HAVE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL FUNDING $47.5 MILLION IN THE CITY AND YOU HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT HAS NOT IMPROVED THIS AREA AT ALL.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE NOT INVESTED IN NORTH LAMAR, BUT YET YOU'VE GOTTEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY GRANT.

YOU'VE GOTTEN FUNDING FROM TXDOT AND ONCE AGAIN, THE TERRACOTTA SIDEWALK.

ERIC BAILEY IS THE PROJECT MANAGER, SPECIFICALLY, HE'S THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES AND HE CONTINUES TO DELIVER DISCRIMINATORY INFRASTRUCTURE.

NORTHEAST OF US, 180 3.

YOU'LL SEE SPECIFICALLY ON BERG, THERE IS NO TERRACOTTA.

YOU'LL SEE SPECIFICALLY THE DRAINAGE AREA.

BUT THIS ISSUE HAS EXISTED SINCE THE BOND $90 MILLION OVER A DECADE AGO.

THE $720 MILLION BOND IN NOVEMBER 8TH, 2016.

I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH.

NORTH LAMAR WAS NUMBER ONE.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S DISCRIMINATORY AND IT VIOLATES TITLE VI OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964.

SO I OPPOSE INVESTING IN THE RAIL AT THE EXPENSE OF COVERAGE AND I WANNA THANK YOU, BUT I WANT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN, IN CAPITOL METRO FROM HOUSTON TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC COMMENT, THE HOUSTON METRO JOSEPH HAS GOOD PRACTICE WHEN ACTUALLY YOU'VE REACHED A FIVE, I'LL CLOSE RIGHT HERE, MR. CHAIR.

I'LL JUST CLOSE AND SAY THEY HAVE A PRACTICE IN HOUSTON OF ACTUALLY SAYING WHAT THEY DID WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHEREAS YOU GUYS CONTINUE TO TRY TO CHILL OUR SPEECH.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GO GLAD TO ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME AND CAN'T HEAR THE BEAT IF IT BEATS.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR GOING OVER.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS MRS. JOSEPH.

ALRIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S SEE.

UH, ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, SO, UH, THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS THAT, THAT, UM, THAT HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE COMMENT IF THEY, UH, IF WE CAN, UH, MR. CHAIR, I GOT A NICE NOTE FROM MS. WASHINGTON THAT SHE IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN.

JOIN US TODAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL IF WE DO HAVE OUR, OUR LAST, UM, MEMBER WHO'S WHO, UH, SIGNED UP, SHOW UP, WE WILL TRY TO WORK HER IN AT THAT POINT.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S SEE,

[IV. Advisory Committee Updates]

UH, NOW, MR. BRADEN, UM,

[00:20:01]

SORRY FOR CALLING YOU UP TOO EARLY.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR TIAN, VICE CHAIR ELLIS AND DEPUTY CEO BUTCHER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS PETER BRETTON.

I'M THE STAFF LIAISON FOR OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEES.

SINCE LAST MONTH'S UPDATE, OUR ACCESS AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEES MET AT THEIR REGULARLY SCHEDULED TIMES.

THE MAIN TOPIC AT BOTH THE ACCESS AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION ADVISORY COMMITTEES WAS THE O WAS AN OVERVIEW OF THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE PLAN PRESENTED BY DIRECTOR OF MARKETING, CYNTHIA LUCAS.

ADDITIONALLY, ACCESS RECEIVED A STAFF UPDATE FROM THE SYSTEM-WIDE ACCESSIBILITY DEPARTMENT WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO GET INVOLVED IN ONGOING INITIATIVES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THE COMMITTEE ALSO TOOK ACTION TO ADD A JULY MEETING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS MONTH.

THANK YOU.

AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, SO

[V. Board Committee Updates]

NOW WE'RE GONNA GO, UH, TO OUR REGULAR BOARD COMMITTEE UPDATES.

OUR OPERATIONS COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH.

UH, SO IF WE COULD GET CHAIR HARRIS TO, UH, TO TELL US WHAT FINANCE, AUDIT AND ADMINISTRATION DID.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, THE, UH, FINANCE AUDIT ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE MET ON, UH, WEDNESDAY, MAY THE SIXTH.

UH, IN ADDITION TO APPROVING THE MINUTES, WE ALSO APPROVED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH, WITH THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK FOR THE DIRECT SUB ALLOCATION OF THE, UM, FISCAL 27 AND FISCAL 28, 53, 0 7, AND 53 39 A FUNDS.

IN ADDITION, WE ALSO HEARD A FINANCIAL REPORT FROM MR. CONLAN AND, UH, FUEL, UH, INTERNAL AUDIT REPORTS FROM, UH, MR. FULMER REGARDING, UH, FUEL, UH, EXCUSE ME, FUEL INVENTORY CONTROLS.

AND ON THE, UH, INTERNAL, EXCUSE ME, THE 2026, UH, INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN STATUS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS, QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, WE WILL GO INTO OUR CAMPO UPDATE.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, THIS WAS QUITE AN EXTENSIVE MEETING, SO I'LL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.

IN ADDITION TO RECEIVING REPORT FROM THE TAC, UH, WE ALSO TOOK ACTION ON THE, ON THE DRAFT 27 20 30 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2050 REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UH, WE ALSO ADOPTED, UH, 2026 FEDERAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UH, TARGETS, UH, FOR OUR REGION.

UH, IN ADDITION, WE ALSO ENTERED INTO A, UH, CONSTRUCTION PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WHICH WILL HELP TRY AND COORDINATE THE NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE REGION.

AT THE SAME TIME, UH, CAP METRO IS A PORT IS A, UH, A MEMBER OF THAT BODY ALSO.

UH, FINALLY WE, UM, GOT IT RECEIVED AND GOT THE FIRST LOOK AT THE SCORING OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE 2028, UH, THE UPCOMING CALL FOR PROJECTS FOR TWENTY TWENTY EIGHT, TWENTY THIRTY ONE SCORING, AND WENT THROUGH THOSE AND RECEIVED AN UPDATE ABOUT HOW THE, HOW THE PROJECTS WERE SCORED AND WHY SOME PROJECTS WERE SCORED HIGHER RISK, LOW RISK, ET CETERA.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY WE, UM, RECEIVED, UH, AN UP, UH, A EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY ALSO INCLUDED, UH, MR. ASHBY JOHNSON ANNOUNCING THAT HE WAS GONNA RESIGN EFFECTIVE JUNE THE 30TH.

UH, ACTUALLY HE SAID RETIRE.

RETIRE.

YEAH, THAT'S TRUE.

HE DID SAY RETIRE.

THAT'S TRUE .

UM, BUT, UH, THE BOARD, THE CAMPO BOARD WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE SERVICE OVER THE YEARS.

ALRIGHT, THAT, THAT TAKE CARE OF THE REPORT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CAMPO REPORT? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE? UH, LET'S SEE.

I THINK I HAVE THE SHORTEST REPORT THAT I'VE EVER, EVER GIVEN FOR THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP UPDATE.

WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING SINCE OUR LAST UPDATE, SO , SO, UH, .

SO, UH, WE'LL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT NEXT TIME.

ALRIGHT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

UM, WELL, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE REPORTS AND NOW WE'LL CON CONTINUE

[VI. Consent Items]

TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, WERE POSTED FOR TWO ACTION ITEMS TODAY AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE ITEMS. UH, IS, UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PULL ONE OF THE TWO CONSENT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? ANYONE WANT TO PULL A, UH, PULL AN ITEM? ANYONE WANT TO PULL AN ITEM? HEARING NONE, UH, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS POSTED.

OKAY.

UM, BOARD MEMBER ALICE WITH THE MOTION? UH, LET'S SEE.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER, UH, QUADRA WITH THE SECOND.

OH, OKAY.

CALL, CALL YOU BY YOUR FIRST NAME.

[00:25:01]

ALRIGHT.

BOARD.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER STRATTON WAS THE SECOND.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AS POSTED.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP OUR REGULAR ACTION ITEMS. UH, JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, LET'S SEE THERE, UH, THERE WAS A REVISED PACKET THAT WAS PUBLISHED LATE LAST WEEK.

SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO AN EARLIER VERSION OF BACKUP MATERIALS, UH, FOR THIS MEETING, YOU MAY SEE THAT, UM, THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN SIX ITEMS THAT HAVE ENDED UP ON TODAY'S, UH, UM, OR I GUESS, YEAH, LET'S SEE.

THERE ARE NOT SIX ITEMS THAT HAVE ENDED UP ON THE AGENDA.

THERE ARE GONNA BE THREE.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, WORK THROUGH STAFF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, KNOW WHEN THE, UH, WHEN THE POSTPONED ITEMS WILL COME BACK.

SO, UM, SO WE'RE POSTED FOR THREE, IS THAT NOT RIGHT? UH, SO I SEE CHAIR, I THINK THERE WAS SIX.

THERE WERE ORIGINALLY MORE THAN SIX.

OKAY.

AND SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO SIX, I BELIEVE.

ALRIGHT, SO I GOT, OKAY, GOT THREE ON ONE PAGE AND THREE ON THE OTHER PAGE.

SO .

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WE'VE GOT SIX

[VII.1. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with Convergint Technologies. Inc. for maintenance and repair services by an Embedded Technician - Physical Security Technology for facility camera and access control systems for a 1 (one) year base contract, with 1 one-year option, for a total contract not to exceed amount of $692,800.]

ITEMS AND, UH, FIRST ONE'S GONNA BE FOR CONTRACT, UH, A CONTRACT FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, UH, OF OUR, UH, PHYSICAL SECURITY TECHNOLOGY.

AND I THINK, UH, MR. JAMAL IS GONNA MAKE THAT, UH, PRESENTATION FOR US.

DO I NEED TO READ THIS ONE INTO THE RECORD OR ARE WE GOOD, BRAD? UH, YES, SIR.

UH, OKAY.

I'LL READ THIS.

UH, ACTION ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH CONVERGENT TECHNOLOGIES INC.

FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR SERVICES, UH, BY AN EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN, PHYSICAL SECURITY TECHNOLOGY, UH, FOR FACILITY CAMERA, AND ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEMS FOR A ONE YEAR BASE CONTRACT WITH A ONE YEAR OPTION FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $692,800.

MR. JAMAL? GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHAIRMAN TAVION, BOARD MEMBERS AND DEPUTY CEO BUTCHER.

I'M DARRYL JAMEL AND SERVE AS THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

FUNDING FOR THIS ACTION IS AVAILABLE IN THE FY 2026 OPERATING BUDGET, EQUIPPING OUR CAP METRO SYSTEM SUPPORT FACILITIES AND VIDEO CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEM EN ENHANCES THE SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS SUPPORTS MISSION CRITICAL FUNCTIONS BY PROVIDING REAL TIME SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND ALSO SERVES AS A DETERRENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

THIS PROJECT FOCUSES ON PROMOTING A SAFE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND ORGANIZATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS AND ALIGNMENT WITH CAPITAL METRO'S.

STRATEGIC PLAN.

MAINTENANCE OF THESE SYSTEMS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE PURCHASE AND INSTALLATION OF THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF.

FOR THESE SYSTEMS TO CONTINUE TO BE EFFECTIVE, THEY MUST BE REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED, WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF HEARING, ADHERING TO A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR.

AS I EXPLAINED IN THE MARCH PUBLIC SAFETY TECHNOLOGY UPDATE TO THE BOARD, CAP METRO IS CLOSE TO 1000 FACILITY CAMERAS, 6,000 VEHICLE CAMERAS.

AND WE ALSO MAINTAIN THE ACCESS CONTROL HARDWARE FOR ALL OUR FACILITIES, WHICH CURRENTLY, UH, IS AT, AT ABOUT 1,700 DEVICES.

THE DAY-TO-DAY MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED FOR THESE SYSTEMS TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONAL READINESS, AND WE'VE SATISFIED THIS NEED IN THE PAST TWO YEARS WITH AN EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN CONTRACT.

WHEN WE DETERMINED THAT EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN CONTRACT WAS NEEDED THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY AS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEMS THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE MARCH, 2024 BOARD WITH A CONTRACT FOR 32 HOURS A WEEK.

OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, AS WE'VE INSTALLED NEW SYSTEMS AND THE REQUIRED MAINTENANCE HAS EXPANDED, THAT'S, UH, GROWN TO THE NEED OF AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT HOURS A WEEK TO MAINTAIN THE SYSTEMS. THE BENEFIT OF THIS IS THAT AN EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN DOES NOT PUT US IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO WAIT FOR SERVICE CALLS AND SUFFER DOWN TIMES TO CRITICAL SYSTEMS. AND THE BENEFIT OF CONTRACTING THE SERVICE IS THE COST SAVINGS AND OVERHEAD AND VEHICLES EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING.

A 0% SBE GOAL WAS ASSIGNED TO THIS PROCUREMENT, WHICH DID NOT INCLUDE SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES.

CAP METRO WILL UTILIZE THE SOURCE WELL, COOPERATIVE CONTRACT NUMBER 1 2 1 0 2 4, HELD BY CONVERGENT TECHNOLOGIES FOR FACILITY SECURITY SYSTEMS, EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE, AND RELATED SERVICES TO

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PROVIDE CAP METRO WITH AN EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF FACILITY CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL SYSTEMS. SOURCE WELL AWARDED CONTRACTS ARE MADE AVAILABLE FOR USE BY CAPITAL METRO VIA TITLE VI INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS CHAPTER 7 91.

AND LOCAL COOPERATION CONTRACTS IN THE TEXAS INTERLOCAL COOPERATION ACT.

PURCHASES MADE USING SOURCE WELL CONTRACTS SATISFY OTHERWISE APPLICABLE COMPETITIVE BIDDING REQUIREMENTS.

CONVERGENT TECHNOLOGIES PRICING FOR THE EMBEDDED TECHNICIAN WAS DETERMINED TO BE FAIR AND REASONABLE BY THE SOURCE WELL ORGANIZATION DURING ITS SOLICITATION AND AWARD PROCESS.

THE CONTRACT IS A FIXED PRICE CONTRACT IN THE FOLLOWING, NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT FOR ONE BASE YEAR FROM THE NOTICE TO PROCEED WITH AN OPTION YEAR OF $692,800.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, BOARD MEMBER HARRIS MAKING THE MOTION, UH, BOARD MEMBER BENGAL MAKING THE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, THAT LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU MR. JAMIL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UM, ACTION ITEM

[VII.2. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with the State of Texas Department of Information Resources for telecommunications data services, for a term of three (3) years, in a total amount not to exceed $1,016,460.]

NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE, UH, TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES FOR, UH, TELECOMMUNICATIONS DATA SERVICES FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS IN A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 1 MILLION, UH, $16,460.

MR. TANZER? YEP.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

BOARD CHAIR PAVILION BOARD MEMBERS, DEPUTY CEO, UH, BUTCHER.

UH, MY NAME'S JONATHAN TANZER.

I'M THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PRODUCT MANAGEMENT WITH CAP METRO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

UH, FOR THIS ITEM TODAY, IT'S TO CONTINUE OUR SERVICES FOR, UM, TELECOMMUNICATIONS, UM, THAT CONNECT, UM, US TO THE, UH, THE INTERNET AND ACROSS ALL OF OUR VARIOUS FACILITIES ACROSS OUR SERVICE DISTRICT OR SERVICE AREA.

UH, THIS IS, UM, LIKE I SAID, CONTINUED SERVICES.

IT'S A GONNA BE A NEW THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND, UH, PRETTY MUCH, UM, ALLOWS US TO HAVE SERVICES WITH, UM, CENTRAL LINK, WHICH IS LEVEL, ALSO KNOWN AS LEVEL THREE AND AT T AND HE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

ALRIGHT.

BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UM, CHERYL WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, UM, UH, BOARD, UM, BOARD MEMBER OF ALA.

AND, UH, LET'S SEE.

UM, BOARD MEMBER, UH, LET'S SEE.

ELLIS WILL GO WITH THAT WITH A SECOND.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN, UH, MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE.

ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FURTHER DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR, LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

UH, SO

[VII.3. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with Unicare Building Maintenance, Inc. for janitorial services at CapMetro Facilities, including Administration and Operation Facilities, Park and Ride Facilities, and Rail Stations, with a two (2) year base period and three (3) one-year option periods, in an amount not to exceed $7,502,685.]

WE WILL PULL UP ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE AND I'LL READ IT INTO THE RECORD.

APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH UNICARE BUILDING MAINTENANCE INC.

FOR JANITORIAL SERVICES AT CAP METRO FACILITIES, UH, INCLUDING ADMINISTRATION AND OPERATION FACILITIES, PARK AND RIDE FACILITIES AND RAIL STATIONS WITH A TWO YEAR BASE PERIOD AND THREE ONE YEAR OPTION PERIODS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,502,685.

AND MR. HILL.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, DEPUTY CEO AND BOARD.

EXCUSE MY LITTLE COURSE HERE.

I JUST GOT OVER A COLD, SO I HOPE I CAN GET THROUGH WITH THIS.

I'M JEFFREY HILL, DIRECTOR OF FACILITY MAINTENANCE, AND THIS IS TO CONTINUE OUR JANITOR SERVICES.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN EXTENSION IN PLACE.

THIS IS TO REPLACE THE EXTENSION FOR A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT OF OUR 30 FACILITIES, UH, WITHIN, UH, CAP METRO.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUS STOPS.

THIS IS JUST A 30 PLUS.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT 32 FACILITIES WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION.

TRANSIT AND PARK AND RIDE, UH, FACILITIES.

AGAIN, THIS, UH, WOULD DEFINITELY BE A, A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, REMOVING THE EXTENSION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE BOARD MEMBER STRATTON MAKES THE MOTION BOARD MEMBER BENGAL MAKES THE SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APP APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

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UH, ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

THANK.

THANK YOU MR. HILL.

HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.

DRINK A LOT OF WATER.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S

[VIII.1.Discussion regarding changes to CapMetro commuter rail management and structure. Memo: CapMetro Commuter Rail Operations (May 8, 2026)]

SEE.

UM, NOW, BOARD MEMBERS, THE REMAINING THREE ITEMS ON OUR ACTION AGENDA ARE ALL RELATED TO COMMUTER RAIL SERVICE AND, AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

IN ORDER TO FACILITATE A COMPLETE DISCUSSION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE OF THAT SERVICE, UH, WHICH WILL AFFECT, UH, ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK IS FOR OUR COO, UH, MR. SABOSKI AND THE VP OF RAIL OPERATIONS, UH, LET'S SEE, FRIDAY TO LEAD US THROUGH DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH WE HAVE POSTED AS A DISCUSSION REGARDING CHANGES, UH, TO THE CAB, UH, CAB METRO COMMUTER RAIL MANAGEMENT, UH, AND, UH, MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE.

LET'S SEE, THIS, UH, DISCUSSION WILL, UM, WILL ALLOW US TO FULLY DISCUSS THE OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. SABOSKI.

OH, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR ILIAN BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, DEPUTY CEO BUTCHER.

MY NAME IS ANDY KOWSKI.

I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER HERE AT CAP METRO.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

WELL, I GOT THE CLICKER.

UM, WHY ARE WE HERE TODAY? UM, AS YOU KNOW, CAT METRO OWNS 162 MILES OF RIGHTWAY RAIL RIGHT AWAY.

UM, WITHIN THAT WE HAVE 32 MILES OF COMMUTER RAIL AND ALSO OUR FREIGHT RAILROAD BETWEEN ANO AND GIDDINGS.

THAT'S OPERATED BY WACKO, OUR AUSTIN WESTERN RAILROAD, CURRENTLY OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE COMMUTER SIDE OF THAT IS, UM, HANDLED BY AN AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH HERZOG TRANSIT SERVICES.

AND THAT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, DECEMBER 31ST, 2026.

UM, CAP, WE AT CAP METRO INITIATED A REVIEW OF ALL OUR RAIL SERVICES AND, UM, SET UP A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

AND IS, UM, WE MOVED TO, UM, WE'VE REACHED A CONCLUSION THE RESTRUCTURE RAIL AS FOLLOWS FOR SIGNAL SYSTEMS AND RAIL MAINTENANCE AWAY.

WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE TO BE MANAGED THROUGH A NEW CONTRACT WITH RIO GRANDE PACIFIC CORPORATION.

MIRROR FRIDAY WILL BE, UM, GIVING YOU MORE DETAIL ON THAT AFTER OUR FOLLOW UP.

FOR OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT BE BROUGHT UNDER CAT METRO DIRECT MANAGEMENT AND THAT COULD BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY, 2027.

UM, AND THEN FOR FREIGHT OPERATIONS, THEY'LL REMAIN WITH WACKO AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

UM, CAT METRO INTENDS TO ABSORB SEVERAL COMMUTER RAIL FUNCTIONS, DELIVERY AND OPERATIONAL FUNCTIONS THAT CURRENTLY PROVIDED BY HERZOG.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE CONTROL, UM, OVER SERVICE DELIVERY AND POSITION OF AGENCY BEST AS WE MOVE, UM, FORWARD TO BEST SUPPORT OUR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND ALSO GIVE US SOME FINANCIAL WILL.

WE FEEL FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OVER TIME SINCE WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER, UM, THE DELIVERY OF THE FUNCTIONS.

UM, A LOT OF TRANSITION ACTIVITIES.

WE HAVE A BUSY SIX AND A HALF MONTHS NOW I'M COUNTING DOWN, UM, DIRECT EMPLOYMENT OF MANAGEMENT OF RAIL DISPATCH OPERATIONS THAT INCLUDE THE TRAIN ENGINEERS, THE CONDUCTORS FOR COMMUTE COMMUTER RAIL SERVICES, AS WELL AS OUR STAFF, UM, AT NORTH OFFSET MAINTAIN THOSE VEHICLES ON A DAILY BASIS, LOOKING AT ABOUT A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES TO BECOME FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS HIRED BY CAT METRO.

AND WE'RE IN UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FULL HIRING PROCESS AND TIMELINE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES PRESENTLY DOING THESE ACTIVITIES BOTH ON, ON THE, UM, ON THE OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SIDE, AS WELL AS THE, UH, RIGHT OF WAY AND SIGNAL SIDE.

WELL, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB TODAY AND AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS, PLEASE LOOK FOR INFORM INFORMATION FOR US.

WE LOVE YOU TO BECOME CAT METRO EMPLOYEES LONGER TERM AND BE PART OF THE TEAM.

CAT METRO MUST BE BECOME AUTHORIZED BY THE FRA FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE DIRECT OPERATIONS TO COMMUTER RAIL.

WE STARTED THAT PROCESS NEXT WEEK.

UM, FRA WILL BE IN TOWN THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE.

UH, THERE'S A SHORT LITTLE CHECKLIST THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT WE WE'RE AWARE OF IT AND, AND WE'RE TACKLING THAT ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

AND CAT MESSER MUST PROCURE SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT SERVICES, ESPECIALLY ON THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE SIDE.

AND, UM, WE'LL BE YOU, THERE'LL BE MORE BEING BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD IN THE COMING MONTHS ON HOW WE HANDLE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND THE EXTRA SUPPORT AS WELL AS WE NEED SOME, UM, WE'RE GONNA NEED, UM, BOTH INSURANCE AND CLAIMS HANDLING FOR THE STUFF THAT'S DIRECTLY OPERATED BY CAPTAIN METRO STAFF MOVING FORWARD.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA, UM, TRANSITION OVER TO MURIEL SO SHE CAN TOUCH ON THE, UM, THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, THERE'S TWO OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE COMING UP AFTER WE'RE DONE.

THEY ARE RELATED TO, TO RAIL, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY THE DELIVERY OF THE OPERATIONS.

THEY'RE MORE SUPPORT FUNCTIONS ATTACHED TO THAT.

SO WITH THAT, MURIEL, SURE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS, UH, MURIEL FRIDAY AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF RAIL OPERATIONS.

UH, SO YOU SWITCH IT FOR ME ALSO FOR CONTRACT SYSTEM SIGNALS, SIGNAL SYSTEMS AND MAINTENANCE AWAY.

UM, THIS CONTRACT CURRENTLY WE HAVE WITH HERZOG, IT WILL EXPIRE IN 2026 AND THE NEW CONTRACTOR, UH, WILL PLAY

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A KEY ROLE IN DELIVERING THE MISSION, UH, AS DEFINED BY OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

ALSO, CAP METRO STAFF RECOMMENDS CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THESE FUNCTIONS BY CONTRACT DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE SERVICES AND WHICH REQUIRE EXTENSIVE SPECIALIZATION AND EQUIPMENT.

SO OUR RFP DEVELOPMENT APPROACH AND EVALUATION FACTORS, UH, WE DID AN EXPRESSION OF INTEREST, WHICH ISSUED BACK IN MARCH, 2025, AND THEY WERE ISSUED AN RFP IN DECEMBER OF 2025.

AND OUR RFP STRATEGY WAS FOCUSED ON MAXIMIZING OUR LESSONS THAT WAS LEARNED.

UH, WE APPLIED BEST PRACTICES, BUT WE ALSO TOOK IN ACCOUNT THE STAKEHOLDER INPUT, UH, PEER AGENCY FEEDBACK AND CONTRACT ASSESSMENTS.

AND TO THE RIGHT YOU'LL SEE OUR EVALUATION FACTORS, UH, THAT WE USE FOR BOTH, UH, MAINTENANCE AWAY AND SIGNAL COMMUNICATIONS FOR MAINTENANCE AWAY.

WE LOOKED AT THE EXPERIENCE WITH CONTINUOUS WEATHER RAIL, UH, THEIR TRAINING AND COMPLIANCE STANDARDS, UH, THEIR APPROACH TO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, THEIR USE OF SUBCONTRACTORS, ALSO THEIR SAFETY RECORDS, ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

AND FOR CIGNA'S COMMUNICATIONS, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE TECHNICAL FUNCTIONALITY AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, UH, THE SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE AND MAINTENANCE INTEGRATION APPROACH.

UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT THEIR MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT SERVICES AND WE LOOKED AT THEIR WORK PLAN AND THEIR REGULATORY IMPLEMENTATIONS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY HAD A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE SUPPLIED TO US.

AND ALSO WE LOOKED AT THEIR STAFF QUALIFICATIONS AND PAST PERFORMANCE.

SO THE RECOMMENDED FIRM FOR MAINTENANCE AWAY AND SIGNAL SYSTEMS, UH, IS RIO GRANDE PACIFIC CORPORATION.

UH, THEIR PROPOSALS INCLUDED, UH, AN EXPERIENCED MANAGEMENT TEAM, A ROBUST MAINTENANCE AND SIGNAL TRAINING AND STAFFING PLAN, UH, PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND A REMEDIATION PLAN, AND ALSO AN IMPLEMENTATION OF A WEATHER PLAN.

UH, CURRENTLY, UH, RIO GRANDE PACIFIC IS CONTRACTED AS A PARTNER FOR DENTON COUNTY, UH, TRANSIT AUTHORITY IN DALLAS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT RIO GRANDE PACIFIC CORPORATION CONTRACT SCOPE, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE AWAY THEY'LL BE, UH, TAKING CARE OF TRACK, BRIDGES AND STRUCTURES AND ALSO THE ALIGNMENT FENCING, UH, ROUTINE CLEANING AND INSPECTIONS, UH, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, PREVENTIVE AND CORRECTIVE TRACK AND BRIDGE MAINTENANCE ON THE SIGNAL SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THEY WILL BE, UH, DOING OUR SIGNALS AND COMMUNICATIONS, POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL, UH, FRA REQUIRED INSPECTIONS AND TESTING, AND THEN PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE AND CORRECTIVE SIGNAL MAINTENANCE.

ALSO, THEY'LL BE DOING SOME ADDITIONAL SERVICES AS REQUIRED, UH, FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS WITH LIMITED DURATION, UH, MODERNIZATION EFFORTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED AND ANY MINOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SUPPORTING CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT.

OUR NEXT STEPS IS TO GET AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BOARD, UH, PHARRELL SIGNAL SYSTEMS AND MAINTENANCE AWAY CONTRACT TO BE APPROVED TODAY.

UH, ALSO CAP METRO STAFF'S PRIORITY IS ENSURING A SEAMLESS TRANSITION BETWEEN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO THE NEW STRUCTURE STRUCTURE.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

I DO DO WANT TO, UM, POINT OUT THAT, UH, RIO GRANDE MANAGEMENT TEAM HAS, SHOWS A KIND OF SUPPORT OF THE DEDICATION TO THIS PROJECT.

THEIR MANAGEMENT TEAM IS HERE TODAY, INCLUDING THEIR CEO, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THERE IN A SECOND ROW ON THE LEFT HERE.

MY LEFT.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? UM, BOARD MEMBER VELA.

THANK YOU.

UH, IF, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UH, DENTON USES THE SAME VEHICLES THAT WE DO, OR THEY, I'M SORRY.

THEY HAVE THE GENERATION TWO.

WE HAVE THE GENERATION ONE AND GENERATION FOUR.

OKAY.

SO THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR.

THEY'RE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH, THEY'RE BOTH STATIC DMU, YES.

GOT IT.

UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, I GUESS OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HEAVY RAIL, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY UNIVERSAL, BUT, UH, BUT THE, THE COMPANY WOULD HAVE EXPERIENCED KIND OF ON A VERY SIMILAR YES.

UM, VEHICLES.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY, UH, BOARD MEMBER STRATTON? UH, THANK, THANK YOU GUYS.

SO, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, FOR, FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S LISTENING, I THINK WE, THAT, THAT WE TEND TO GET THIS A LITTLE BIT MUDDIED AND, AND UNCLEAR.

THIS IS CAP METRO'S COMMUTER FULL GAUGE, OR AS MY DAUGHTER WOULD CALL IT, WHOOP, WHOOP TRAIN.

LIKE REGULAR TRAIN RAIL.

YES, SIR.

FULL GAUGE RAIL.

YES, SIR.

THAT WE GOT THE RED LINE THAT WE'RE OPERATING THE RED LINE.

YES, SIR.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT, WITH WHAT A TP IS BUILDING US, WHICH IS THAT THAT LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE HEART OF DOWN, THIS IS OUR EXISTING COMMUNITY RAIL OPERATIONS HEAVY RAIL THAT WE, THAT OUR RED LINE.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

THANK, JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT SO EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.

ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHING THIS.

UM, ADDITIONAL TO THAT, UH, SO I NOTED THAT AS I WAS, WAS LOOKING THIS OVER AND THANK Y'ALL FOR PROVIDING THE INFORMATION AND CLARIFYING THIS WITH THE BOARD.

UM, Y'ALL BROKE THIS DOWN INTO BASICALLY FIVE MAJOR COMPONENTS.

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THE, THE, THE TWO OF WHICH WERE, IT'S TWO OF WHICH THAT ARE GONNA GO TO, THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WOULD GO TO, UM, TO RIO GRANDE PACIFIC, WHICH IS THE SIGNAL SYSTEMS AND THE, THE, THE, UM, THE RAIL MAINTENANCE OF WAY.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THE OTHER THREE OPERATIONS DISPATCH, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DUS, THAT'S THE ACTUAL TRAINS THEMSELVES.

THE CONDUCTORS AND, AND THE DISPATCH THAT RUNS, THAT RUNS THOSE VEHICLES AND, AND DETERMINES THE STAFFING YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT THAT ALL COMES BACK IN-HOUSE? YEAH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S AN IN-HOUSE FUNCTION MOVING FORWARD IN WHICH WE'RE DIRECTLY OPERATING THOSE.

OKAY.

SO INITIALLY YOU PUT BOTH OF THOSE, KNOWING THAT WE WERE COMING UP TO THE END OF THE, OF THE, OF THE MASTER CONTRACT WITH HERZOG, THAT HERZOG BEEN DOING ALL FIVE OF THOSE FUNCTIONS.

CORRECT? YES, SIR.

SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING, SINCE WE FIRST STARTED OUT WITH LIGHT, WITH, WITH, EXCUSE ME, WITH WITH THE RED LINE YES.

PROVIDER FOR, UM, SINCE WE STARTED 2009, 2010.

RIGHT.

SO Y'ALL PUT THIS OUT.

Y'ALL PUT THIS OUT IN THE FIELD.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTS.

ONE TO DO THE, THE, UH, OR TWO DIFFERENT RFPS, RIGHT, TO CHECK THIS OUT.

SIGNAL SYSTEMS, RAIL AND RAILWAY, UM, MAINTENANCE OF WAY AND THEN OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

TWO DIFFERENT RFPS.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS SENT OUT AS THREE RFPS.

THREE, OKAY.

YEAH, THREE RFPS.

SO I, I JUST WANTED, IF YOU COULD JUST MAYBE TAKE A MOMENT TO CLARIFY TO, TO BOARD AND TO THE PUBLIC THAT ARE, THAT MAY BE LISTENING, WHAT LED US TO LED LED CAP METRO TO THE POINT OF DECIDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THIS IS GONNA BE BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT FOR US IN THE LONG RUN TO TAKE OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE, BRING THAT IN-HOUSE AFTER ALL AFTER Y'ALL WENT AND BID IT OUT ON THE STREET AND THEN SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S GO AHEAD.

IT'S GONNA BE BETTER FOR US TO KEEP IT IN-HOUSE AFTER ALL.

BUT THEN STILL GOING THIS DIRECTION, BIDDING OUT THE, UH, AND, AND TAKING A CONTRACTOR.

DO THE SYSTEM SIGNAL THE SIGNAL SYSTEMS IN THE RAIL MAINTENANCE OF WAY? WELL, I THINK MURIEL MENTIONED THE IDEA ABOUT RATE, UM, UH, MAINTENANCE AWAY AND SIGNALIZATION.

IT TAKES SOME SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, SOME SPECIALIZED TRAINING THAT, THAT WE FEEL AT THIS POINT IS BETTER IF WE, IF THAT'S PROVIDED BY A THIRD PARTY SERVICE PROVIDER AS FAR AS IN HOUSING, THE ENGINEERS, CONDUCTORS AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

UM, A OVER THE PERIOD OF TIME SINCE WE'VE BEEN OPERATING THIS RAILROAD, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE OURSELVES ON HOW TO OPERATE AND HOW TO MANAGE A RAILROAD.

WHAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THAT AS WELL AS A BUILT A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FRA AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UM, WE KNOW THAT GENERALLY THE COST OF THINGS ARE GOING UP.

WE KNOW THAT THE COST OF DELIVERING COMMUNITY RAIL WILL INCREASE OVER TIME.

WE FEEL NOW AS WE DIRECTLY OPERATE IT, THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HANDLE ON THOSE CONTROLS.

ON WHAT? ON, ON HOW, HOW WE MANAGE OUR FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD VERSUS, VERSUS HAVING THAT KIND OF A, A, A MIDDLEMAN, SO TO SPEAK, A MIDDLEMAN AND, AND, AND HOW DO WE BALANCE FINANCIAL STABILITY WITH, UM, CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE WITH WHAT WE'RE DELIVERING EVERY SINGLE DAY.

OKAY.

UM, I, I GUESS FINAL QUESTION.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A, IN ORDER FOR US TO TAKE THIS MOVE AND BRING THIS IN-HOUSE, WE HAVE TO GO TO THE FRA AND GET THE FEDERAL RAILROAD, FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION AND GET, IS IT ESSENTIALLY GET PERMISSION OR GET CHECKLIST? CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT? WE HAVE TO SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE PLANS IN PLACE MM-HMM .

THAT MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO MEET.

NOW, ONCE WE SHOW THEM THE PLANS, THEY SAY, OKAY, GREAT.

YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.

UM, THE RA WILL COME AND VISIT US AFTER WE OPERATE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLYING WITH WHAT WE SET ON PAPER WE'RE GONNA COMPLY WITH.

WE HAVE A, A, UM, UH, FRA RA, UM, RAILROAD RIGHT NOW.

IT MEETS THE FRA REQUIREMENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT MIMICKING THAT, UM, INITIALLY TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO WHAT'S BEING DONE TODAY.

AND THE FRA ALREADY HAS, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.

WE'VE ALREADY ACTUALLY EVEN SUBMITTED SOME OF OUR, UM, THEY CALL 'EM PLANS.

THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THE FRA REGULATION THAT WE SUBMIT A PLAN ON.

WE'VE SUBMITTED SOME OF THE BASE PLANS ALREADY.

THEY COME IN FOR THREE WHOLE DAYS AND IN JUNE, FIRST WEEK IN JUNE.

AND WE GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THAT.

THEY WANNA KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SURE YOU CER UM, IF YOU HAVE A CERTIFIED ENGINEER, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON STAYS CERTIFIED IN ONE OF YEAR RETRAINED.

IF YOU HAVE A CERTIFIED TECHNICIAN, HOW DO YOU A, UM, CONFIRM THAT HE CER THAT PERSON'S CERTIFIED? AND HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE TRACKING THAT AND THAT YOU'RE RE-CERTIFYING ONE? SO THERE'S, THERE'S ALL THOSE REGULATIONS WHICH JUST PICK THROUGH.

IT'S A SHORT SPREADSHEET NOW.

IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT.

BUT WE KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT WE, WE AS CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR FOR A PROVIDER, OUR JOB IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE REGULATIONS.

THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

THAT'S ALREADY HAPPEN.

SO WE KNOW WHAT REGULATIONS WE NEED TO COMPLY FOR.

IT'S JUST NOW SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING.

DO, DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT THERE IS ANY RISK INHERENT OF THE FRA SAYING NO? OR IS THERE, IS THERE A BACKUP PLAN IN PLACE IF SOMETHING COMES UP, WHAT THE F A'S GONNA SAY IS, WE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE.

WE SUGGEST YOU DO IT THIS WAY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S MORE OF A PROCESS.

OKAY.

INSTEAD OF A YOU FAILED THE TASK, GO HOME.

NO, IT'S MORE OF A SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT.

OKAY.

TO COMPLY, YOU REALLY NEED TO ALSO ADD THIS AND THIS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO REACT TO THAT.

AND SO YOU, AND SO AS PART OF THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THIS, YOU'VE BUILT THIS IN YES.

FROM THE BEGINNING IN TERMS OF, OKAY, WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING OURSELVES INTO AND THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE

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TO WORK WITH THE FRA TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION OCCUR.

YEAH.

AND THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME THINGS THAT HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE.

AND WE MAY NEED TO PIVOT A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE.

YES.

BUT, AND YOU FEEL LIKE AT THIS POINT, THE TURNAROUND TIME THAT YOU CAN GET THIS ALL DONE EFFECTIVE JANUARY ONE? YES.

AND I THINK IT'S NOT, WHEN YOU SAY YOU, THIS HAS CLEARLY BEEN CONVEYED BY CEO WATKINS, THAT THIS IS A AGENCY INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD.

EVERYBODY AT SET HAS A PART AND EVERYBODY HAS AN NSET HAS A ROLE.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO US.

WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN.

WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO GET IT DONE.

OKAY.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE ON THIS.

THIS IS HUGE.

I, I WOULD COMPARE THIS SECOND ONLY UN TWO, UH, THE, WHEN WE MADE THE CHANGES WITH, WITH THE, ON THE BUS, THE, THE, THE BUS SIDE OF THE EQUATION WHEN WE, UH, WHEN, WHEN WE MADE THE MOVEMENT FROM, UH, UH, FROM MVA OVER TO, TO KEOLIS AND BROUGHT MORE STUFF IN HOUSE.

SO THANK Y'ALL FOR THE DILIGENCE ON THIS AND THE TIME YOU'VE TAKEN WITH US.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.

UH, CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, UH, CLARIFY ONE POINT THAT CAME UP EARLIER AND OUR, UH, VICE PRESIDENT OF, UH, PROCUREMENT, UH, REMINDED ME THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO RFPS.

UH, SO IT WAS, UH, ONE FOR MAINTENANCE OF WAY AND SIGNAL SIGNALS AND THEN THE OTHER FOR OPERATIONS DISPATCH AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE.

SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DIVIDED UP TECHNICALLY, JUST FOR THE RECORD IN CASE.

ANYWAYS ELSE.

ALRIGHT.

APOLOGIZE FOR LISTENING ON THAT POINT.

THANK YOU.

I'LL MAKE SURE I READ 'EM INTO THE RECORD AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HEARING, HEARING NONE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I WILL,

[VII.4. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with Rio Grande Pacific Corporation for contracted Commuter Rail Maintenance of Way and Signal Systems services for a base period of five (5) years, plus two (2) two-year options, for a total contract amount not to exceed $145,826,753. Memo: Internal Audit Observation of Procurement Selection Process for Commuter Rail Operations (May 11, 2026)]

I WILL READ NUMBER FOUR, UH, INTO THE, UH, INTO THE RECORD.

UM, ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH RIO GRANDE PACIFIC CORPORATION, UH, FOR, UH, CONTRACTED COMMUTER RAIL MAINTENANCE OF WAY AND SIGNAL SYSTEMS, UH, SERVICES FOR A BASE PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS PLUS TWO, UH, UH, PLUS TWO, TWO YEAR OPTIONS.

UM, LET'S SEE.

PLUS, YEAH, PLUS TWO, TWO YEAR OPTIONS.

I THINK I READ THAT RIGHT.

UH, FOR A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $145,826,753.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WE'LL, UH, LET'S SEE.

I THINK, UH, YOU TWO WILL LAY IT OUT OR HAVE WE LAID OUT EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED? THAT WAS, THAT WAS MURIEL'S PORTION OF THE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT EVERYTHING OUT.

SO I, I PULLED THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAID EVERYTHING YOU NEEDED TO SAY.

ALRIGHT.

THAT BEING SAID, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A, A, UH, MOTION TO ACCEPT ACTION ITEM NU NUMBER FOUR.

OKAY.

UH, BOARD MEMBER ELA AND THEN BOARD MEMBER HARRIS MAKES THE SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE.

ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FURTHER DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR.

LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

A.

AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

ALRIGHT, SO I'LL

[VII.5. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with ABB Inc. for the upgrade of the propulsion control units on the Stadler Diesel Multiple Units (DMUs), in a total amount not to exceed $3,140,192, which includes 10% contingency.]

GO RIGHT INTO NUMBER FIVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S SEE ON.

AND ACTION.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH A BB INC.

FOR THE UPGRADE OF THE PROPULSION CONTROL UNITS ON THE STADLER DIESEL.

UM, MULTIPLE UNITS DM IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $3,140,192, WHICH INCLUDES A 10% CONTINGENCY.

UH, MR. N UM, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, CHAIR IAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, DEPUTY CEO BUTCHER, UH, MY NAME IS RAHUL NI SERVE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF ROLLING STOCK AND SUPPORT EQUIPMENT HERE AT CAP METRO.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS ACTION ITEM IS TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH A BB FOR UPGRADE OF OUR SIX OF OUR GENERATION ONE DM U UH, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 3 MILLION 140,000 $102.

UH, THIS ALIGNS OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND SUPPORT OF CAP METRO GOALS TO ENSURE SAFE AND RELIABLE OPERATIONS FOR A STALER THROUGHOUT EXPECTED LIFE CYCLE, REDUCE THE RISK OF SERVICE DISRUPTIONS AND MINIMIZE UNPLANNED DOWNTIME.

UM, OF THE 10 UNITS THAT WE HAVE, ONLY FOUR OF THEM ARE IN OBSOLESCENCE, UH, ISSUE.

SO THAT WILL, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE, UH, SIX UNITS THAT WE'LL BE UPGRADING AS PART OF THIS PROCUREMENT.

UH, THIS PROCUREMENT ALSO INCLUDES THE COMPONENTS, THE, THE TESTING AND COMMISSION, UH, COMMISSIONING PROCESSES, AND THE DOCUMENTATION AND TRAINING ALL INCLUDED INTO ONE PACKAGE.

AT THIS POINT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD MEMBERS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION

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ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER QUADRANT AND, UH, BOARD MEMBER ELLIS.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT THE BOARD APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, AND NOW WE MOVE

[VII.6. Approval of a resolution authorizing the President & CEO, or her designee, to finalize and execute a contract with Modern Railway Systems (MRS) for Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) Railroad Construction and Rehabilitation Services, for a base period of three (3) years, plus two (2) one-year options in a total not to exceed amount of $26,356,804.]

TO ACTION.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

UH, APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OR HER DESIGNEE TO FINALIZE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MODERN RAILROAD SYSTEMS, MRS FOR INDEFINITE, UH, DELIVERY, INDEFINITE QUANTITY, IDIQ, UH, RAILROAD CONSTRUCTION AND REHABILITATION SERVICES FOR A BASE PERIOD OF THREE YEARS PLUS TWO ONE YEAR OPTIONS IN A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF $26,356,804.

MR. CARTRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, ILION BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, DEPUTY CEO BUTCHER, MY NAME IS KEN CARITE.

I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF CONSTRUCTION FACILITIES AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS AN INDEFINITE DELIVERY, INDEFINITE QUANTITY, OR IDIQ CONTRACT FOR RAIL CONSTRUCTION.

UH, THE BOARD, UH, LIKELY RECALLS THAT WE ALSO HAVE IDIQ CONTRACTS FOR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, UH, TYPICALLY RELATED TO BUS.

UH, HOWEVER, THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE FOR RAIL CONSTRUCTION SPECIFICALLY.

AND WHILE YOU'VE JUST AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO RIO GRANDE, UH, PACIFIC, THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF WAY.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT WILL BE FOR MAJOR RAIL IMPROVEMENTS, BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS, BRIDGE UPGRADES, CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS, SIGNAL UPGRADES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT ARE LARGER PROJECTS.

AND SO WE DID RECEIVE TWO PROPOSALS.

UH, MODERN RAILWAY SYSTEMS WHO THE AGENCY HAS QUITE A BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, PROVIDED THE BEST VALUE PROPOSAL ACCORDING TO THE EVALUATION TEAM.

AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THAT CONTRACT.

I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, WE ARE, UH, ASKING FOR UP TO, UH, THE ABILITY TO UTILIZE THIS CONTRACT FOR, UH, 26 MILLION.

HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

WE ONLY SPEND WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED.

THE, UH, FUNDING FOR THESE INDIVIDUAL, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'LL UNDERTAKE US UTILIZING THIS CONTRACT WILL HAVE THOSE FUNDS BUDGETED IN EACH OF THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

UM, AND THAT BUDGET WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

SO JUST WANNA PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS PROPOSED CONTRACT BOARD MEMBER STRATTON, UH, MR. CARTWRIGHT JUST WANNA, UH, CLARIFY THEN IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, WHAT MRS WOULD BE DOING AND WHAT, UH, RIO GRANDE AND, UM, PACIFIC WOULD BE DOING? THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BUDGETING BETWEEN A CAPITAL ITEM VERSUS A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION ITEM? FUNDAMENTALLY CORRECT.

THEY WOULD BE DOING MAINTENANCE OF WAY, WHICH ARE ALSO IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.

BUT THESE WOULD BE MAJOR CAPITAL UPGRADES OF THE RAIL SYSTEM.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO THAT MEANS THAT, THAT WE, FOR US AS THE BOARD, WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT MORE IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, FIVE YEAR, UH, CAP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, KIND OF, KIND OF THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS MORE SO THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, THE, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER SIX.

OKAY.

BOARD MEMBER ELLIS.

UM, BOARD MEMBER STRATTON.

OKAY.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND PROPERLY SECONDED THAT WE APPROVE.

ACTION ITEM NUMBER SIX.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? LET IT BE KNOWN BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED? SAME SIGN.

HEARING NONE.

THE CHAIR WILL MAKE IT UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM,

[VIII.2.Update on CapMetro’s Battery Electric Bus Fleet]

LET'S SEE.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UH, ONE ITEM REMAINING, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, UH, A, UH, AN UPDATE ON OUR BATTERY ELECTRIC BUS FLEET FROM MR. SABOSKI.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS DEPUTY CEO.

UM, UH, BUTCHER THIS.

MY NAME IS ANDY SBA.

I'M A CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER HERE AT CAP METRO.

UM, WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON A CAP METRO ELECTRIC BUS FLEET, ITS CURRENT STATUS AND OUR WORK MOVING FORWARD.

UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE 104 BATTERY ELECTRIC BUSES.

UM, OF THOSE 46 ARE P SLASH PHOENIX.

THERE'S A SLASH THERE NOW AND 58 ARE, UM, FROM A COMPANY CALLED NEW FLYER.

UM, 12 OF THESE BUSES WERE PURCHASED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND HAVE BEEN IN SERVICE FOR A WHILE.

THE REMAINING 92 BUSES WERE PURCHASED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.

UM, LET'S START WITH THE PHOENIX SLASH BERTERA FLEET.

UM, APPROXIMATELY 12 OF THOSE, UM, BUSES HAVE BEEN PLACED IN SERVICE, UM, SIX FROM THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE

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AND THEN SIX FROM THE RECENT ORDER.

UM, THE GOAL WAS TO TAKE THOSE SIX AND KIND OF PUT 'EM THROUGH AT PACES AND, AND KIND OF WORK OUT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND FOR PARTS AND TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS.

THE REMAINDER OF THAT FLEET.

AS YOU, UM, AS WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD A, AN ITEM FOR THE STORAGE OF THEM ARE IN STORAGE.

UM, THEY'RE IN STORAGE IN SUCH A WAY IN WHICH THE BATTERIES ARE CHARGED UP AND THEY'RE KEPT IN A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR.

SO THAT WAY WHEN WE WANT TO EVENTUALLY BRING THEM AND PUT THEM IN SERVICE, WE CAN.

BUT, UM, WE DID WANT TO TAKE THESE SIX AND PUT 'EM OUT THERE AND SEE HOW THEY DO.

IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING TO DATE.

UM, WE'VE HAD PARTS ISSUES, WE'VE HAD TECHNICAL ISSUES.

UM, PHOENIX HAS EFFECTIVELY CLOSED ITS DOORS.

THEY DON'T ANSWER THE PHONE DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THEY'RE A VALUABLE, ONGOING ENTITY THERE.

THERE'S NOBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE.

WHEN WE CALL, UM, WE ARE PREPARING WHAT OUR NEXT STEP WOULD BE.

UM, WE HAVE A, UM, PROJECT PROPOSED IN THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO ACTUALLY TAKE SOME OF THAT TECHNICAL WORK AND SOURCING OF PARTS, MORE OF AN IN-HOUSE SLASH BRING SOMEBODY ON BOARD TO HELP US KIND OF WORK THROUGH.

UM, WE'D LEVERAGE BOTH IN-HOUSE AND EXTERNAL SUPPORT CONSULTANTS AND THE LIKE TO SAY, OKAY, IF WE NEED THIS WIDGET, WHERE DO WE BUY THIS WIDGET FROM? WHAT'S REQUIRED TO BUY THIS WIDGET? IS THERE SOFTWARE REQUIREMENT? IS THERE, WHO'S TO PURCHASE IT? STUFF LIKE THAT.

IF WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REPAIR SOMETHING, WE WOULD LEAN INTO THIS IN-HOUSE, UM, INTO THIS RESOURCE TO SAY, OKAY, HOW DO WE FIX THAT? HOW DO WE COME UP WITH A, A MAINTENANCE PROCEDURE TO MAKE THE REPAIR? AND, AND SO GENERALLY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO TAKE THE REMAINDER OF THOSE BUSES THAT ARE IN STORAGE, BRING THEM IN AND UTILIZE 'EM.

THEY'RE AN ASSET AND WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE 'EM.

WE, WE HAVE PLENTY OF BUSES THAT, THAT ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT UP THERE IN AGE THAT SHOULD BE RETIRED AND WE CAN BRING THOSE ELECTRIC BUSES ON BOARD TO, UM, UM, TO, UM, TO UTILIZE THEM THE ASSET THAT WE PURCHASE.

NOW, AS A PRECAUTION, WE HAVE ALSO APPLIED TO THE FTA FOR WHAT'S CALLED A USEFUL LIFE WAIVER.

ALL THAT SAYS TO THE FT A AND WE, AND THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE, THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.

WE'RE WAITING FOR APPROVAL.

UM, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT WE'RE GONNA GET APPROVAL FROM THE FT A FOR THAT.

WHAT THAT SAYS IS THAT FOR SOME REASON, LET'S SAY AFTER A, A REAL TRY AT IT, AND WE GET THEM GOING FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT YEARS, WE JUST CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT FLEET.

WHAT THE F-A-F-D-A WILL ALLOW US TO DO IS RETIRE THEM EARLY WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY BACK THE REMAINDER OF THE USEFUL LIFE.

THAT'S THE PORTION THE FT KIND OF PAYS FOR THE USEFUL LIFE OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE WAIVING THAT REQUIREMENT FROM THEM.

AND, AND SO AT THE TIME, LET'S SAY WE GET SIX OR SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW AND WE JUST CAN'T KEEP 'EM GOING ANYMORE.

WE JUST CAN'T BUY PARTS OR WHATEVER, UM, WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION TO SAY, FT A IS FOUR YEARS LEFT.

YOU NEED TO PAY US BACK.

THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE WAIVER WE'RE APPLYING FOR.

NOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE, WE HAVE OUR NEW FLYER FLEET, UM, NEW FLYER.

UM, FLEET NEW FLYER IS FULLY SUPPORTING US.

THERE'S STAFF ON, ON, ON SITE, AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY SCREEN, SO BEAR WITH ME.

THEY'RE STAFF ON SITE.

THEY'RE OFFERING US FULL SUPPORT, UH, ON BOTH THE PART SIDE AND THE TECHNICAL SIDE.

UM, I WOULD SAY THIS, THAT, UM, OUR TEAM'S GETTING VERY GOOD AT FIXING THOSE BUSES.

UM, WE PROBABLY KNOW AS MUCH, AND THAT'S NOT A BAD THING AS MUCH AS THE NEW FLYER REPS.

AS WE'RE LEARNING THE BUS AND WE'RE LEARNING THE TECHNOLOGY, IT IS A NEW TECHNOLOGY TO THE ELECTRIC BUS MARKET.

UM, OF THE 52, WE'RE GETTING IN THE 30 RANGE ON A DAILY BASIS IN SERVICE.

IT SHOULD BE HIGHER, BUT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE 30.

WE STARTED OUT AT FIVE OR SIX.

AND SO WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

UM, AND WE'RE ADVANCING OUR TECHNICAL ABILITY TO MANAGE AND REPAIRATIVE FLEET.

UM, WHAT WE DID FIND, AND I THINK I'VE STATED THIS BEFORE, THEY'RE NOT LESS RELIABLE.

THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN MORE MAN, BUT THEY'RE HARD TO FIX WHEN WE GET 'EM AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE BROKEN.

IT'S NOT AS EASY AS JUST THE OLD FASHIONED, PUT A READER UP TO IT, IT TELLS YOU A CODE, YOU GO FIX IT.

IT JUST REQUIRES TROUBLESHOOTING REQUIRES SOME INTERACTIVE PORTION.

THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE A LOT HARDER TO FIX FOR US.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEARNING.

AND I THINK WITH EXPERIENCE, WE'RE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER WITH THAT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECENTLY MOVED WITH TO THE PURCHASE OF HYBRID ELECTRIC BUSES.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.

WE'RE CALLING IT THE, UM, TECHNOLOGY OF CHOICE THAT SAYS, BASED ON THE MARKET, BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE OF VARIOUS TECHNOLOGIES, WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO BUY NOW AND SUPPORT OUR MAIN FUNCTION, WHICH IS TO GET BUSES ON THE STREET AND GET PICK UP PEOPLE AND MOVE PEOPLE.

SO RIGHT NOW THAT THAT IS, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED ALREADY, A GILLI HYBRID BUS.

WE'LL BE BUYING THOSE FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT YEARS AND WE IV REVISIT, UM, MY COUNTERPART, DAVE ACHE AND HIS GROUP AND HIS TEAM REVISIT THE TECHNOLOGY OR CHOICE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO SAY, HEY, WHAT'S OUT THERE? WHAT'S PERFORMING, WHAT'S DOING WELL? AND SHOULD WE STAY WITH WHAT WE HAVE? OR IS THERE A REASON FOR A MOVE? UM, THE HYBRID ELECTRIC BUS IS CLEANER THAN, UM, A DIESEL BUS.

IT DOES.

WHAT IT DOES GIVE US IS THAT THERE'S SOME TECHNOLOGY ON THAT BUS THAT ALSO HELP US GET THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY CURVE.

THERE'S BATTERIES, THERE'S UM, INVERTERS, THERE'S THINGS ON THE BUS THAT AS OUR TECHNICIANS BECOME MORE AND MORE ADAPT TO FIXING IT, IT'S JUST EXPERIENCE.

YOU, THERE'S NOTHING BEATING ON A JOB, UM, TRAINING WHEN

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IT COMES TO FIXING, UM, DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND THERE IS A REAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN FORMAL TRAINING AND WHAT YOU GET FROM DAY TO DAY, WHAT YOU GET FROM ACTUALLY FIXING IT AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF I TURN RIGHT INSTEAD OF LEFT, IT WORKS AND IT FIXES AND IT WORKS BETTER AND I GET IT FIXED.

SO, UM, GENERALLY AS A AGENCY, WE HAVE THE PITERA FLEET, WHICH WE HAVE A PLAN FOR.

WE HAVE THE NEW FLYER FLEET, WHICH WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY IMPROVING OUR ABILITY TO GET IN AND SERVICE AND WORK WITH THEM.

AND THEN AS FAR AS PURCHASES GO, WE'RE GONNA BE PURCHASING HYBRID BUSES LONGER TERM.

SO KIND OF, THAT WAS KIND OF, THAT WAS MY UPDATE JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE THREE POTS OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

AND I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBER, ALICE, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE BATTERY ELECTRIC BUSES? I KNOW THAT SOME OF IT WAS UP AND RUNNING, BUT MAYBE NOT FOR THE DURATION OF SOME OF THE LINES THAT WE WERE WANTING TO RUN THOSE BUSES ON.

OKAY.

UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN OUR SERVICE CHANGE IN JUNE, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD THE USAGE OF, OF, OF MORE ELECTRIC BUSES ON PV EXPO AS WE MOVE FROM 20 MINUTES TO 10 MINUTE HEADWAY.

UM, TO DO THAT, WE NEED END OF LINE CHARGING A GOODNIGHT REACH AN EXPO.

UM, THERE, WE WERE UP THERE YESTERDAY, UM, I'M I SORRY.

YESTERDAY EARLIER LAST, UH, MIDDLE LAST WEEK, DAVE AND HIS TEAM HAVE GOT THAT EQUIPMENT IN PLACE.

WE'RE CHARGING, WE'RE TRAINING, WE HAVE OPERATORS DRIVING THROUGH THERE, PUTTING A PARAGRAPH UP.

IT'S A PARAGRAPH, IT COMES UP AND CHARGES.

SO WE HAVE END LINE CHARGING IN PLACE.

IT'S WORKING, IT'S WORKING WELL.

WE'RE TESTING IT, WE'RE TRAINING IT.

AND WE'LL, UM, I'M AN OPS GUY, I'M SORRY, KNOCK ON WOOD.

UM, AND, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT AND WE'RE READY FOR IF WE SEE SOMETHING, THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE AT THE PERIOD OF TIME WE'RE IN NOW.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE OPERATORS TRAINING.

WHY ARE WE USING IT WHEN WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE WE CAN GET ANY, ANY KINKS.

IF THEY ARE, WE CAN GET THEM WORKED OUT.

BUT YES, WE HAVE CHARGING EQUIPMENT IN PLACE TO SUPPORT PV EXPO AND NORTH OPS.

UM, THAT PROGRESS OF THAT, THOSE CHARGES ARE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE ABOUT TO GET TO THE POINT OF NOW WE'RE GONNA START TESTING THAT EQUIPMENT AND AND UTILIZING THAT EQUIPMENT AS WE CAN.

SO WHEN WILL PEOPLE START SEEING THESE BUSES TESTED ON THE ROUTES? OH, ACTUALLY, UM, JUNE 5TH IS THE SCHEDULED, UM, SERVICE CHANGE.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE GETTING ABOUT 30 BUSES OUT A DAY.

OUR GOAL IS TO GET 38 30 EIGHT'S REQUIRED FOR A PV EXPERT TO GO TO 10 MINUTES.

THERE IS ELECTRIC BUSES OUT ON THAT ROUTE NOW.

THERE'S ELECTRIC BUSES IN SERVICE NOW.

YOU'LL JUST, I'LL SEE SOME.

YEAH, YOU'LL JUST SEE MORE OF THEM.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU H ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I WOULD JUST ADD OUR INTENTION IS TO USE THIS BATTERY ELECTRIC BUS, ELECTRIC BUS FLEET AS LONG AS WE CAN, AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

WE JUST WANNA BE PREPARED, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT, UM, WE CAN'T USE IT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF, OF THE USEFUL LIFE.

UM, FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS, OUR STAFF'S FOCUS HAS BEEN GETTING STARTED GETTING THE METRO RAPID, UM, PROGRAM AND THE, THE NEW RAPID LINES LIKE REALLY ROLLED OUT AS, AS CLEAN AS WE CAN IN JUNE.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL BEGIN REFOCUSING ON, UM, THE ELECTRIC FLEET ITSELF.

UM, BUT AS, AS ANDY MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE COULD CHARGE THOSE BUSES AND THEN WE WILL, UH, REDOUBLE OUR EFFORTS NEXT YEAR ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FLEET ON, ON, ON PHOENIX PRED SLASH UM, I THINK UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHERE THAT OEM IS AT TOO WAS AN IMPORTANT CONCERN.

WE WERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS OR WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IT ON OUR OWN KIND OF AT THIS POINT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A LITTLE PORTION OF IT ON OUR OWN.

OKAY.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? UH, BOARD MEMBER STRATTON, UM, WITH THE, UH, IN, IN RESPECT TO THE CHARGING, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THOSE ARE, UH, THOSE ARE, UM, VENDOR NEUTRAL, RIGHT? YES.

THEY THEY WORK WITH ANYBODY.

PRODUCTION.

YEAH, WORK WITH ANYBODY.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN WE DID THIS, I REMEMBER THIS WAS NOT, NOT THE FIRST, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST VOTES THAT I TOOK WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD IN 20, UM, IN 2017, NO, EXCUSE ME, 2018.

AND, UM, I THINK WE DID THIS IN EARLY 2019 WAS WHEN WE TOOK THE VOTE TO, TO, TO PROCEED WITH THE ELECTORATE.

BUT YOU, IT WAS BEFORE YOU GOT HERE TO PROCEED WITH THE ELECTRIC BUSES.

UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS, SO MUCH HAS CHANGED IN THE LANDSCAPE.

A LOT HAS CHANGED A LOT, A LOT HAS CHANGED, HAS CHANGED.

UM, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT, THAT BY GOING WITH TWO DIFFERENT VENDORS BY, BY GOING WITH, YOU KNOW, NEW FLYER AND PROTERRA CAP METRO, WE WERE TRYING TO BOTH MEET THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE RE THE, THE REQUESTS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMANDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT US TO GET TO, YOU KNOW, TO BE CARBON NEUTRAL BY, WHAT IS IT, 20, 30, 20 40, 20, 35, 20 40 WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY STILL PROVIDING GOOD, GOOD AND RELIABLE SERVICE.

YEAH.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES WITH A LOT OF, WITH SOME, SOME REALLY, UH, BIG NAME, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT, TRANSIT ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, DOES IT SEEM LIKE THAT

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TAKING ELECTRIC OUT OF IT, THIS IS THIS JUST KIND OF A HICCUP THAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS WHEN SOMETIMES HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK, LOOK AT THE BIG, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A CHANGE AND LOOK DOWN THE LINE AND COME UP WITH THE BEST THING TO DO.

AND I THINK THE DECISION, UM, IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD DECISION AT THE POINT UNKNOWING THAT, THAT, UM, PRA WOULD HAVE ISSUES WITH BEING AN ONGOING ENTITY.

I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AGENCIES IN WHICH THE BUS MANUFACTURER HAS THAT ISSUES, AND THEN IT DOES COME TO THE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD SEVEN, 8-YEAR-OLD BUSES THAT, UM, ORION BUS A LONG TIME AGO, THEY WENT BELLY UP AND PORTIONS OF THEIR WORK WAS, WAS, UM, PUT SOLD AND, AND PURCHASED BY DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

IT, IT HAPPENS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU, I THINK THE, UM, THE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO LET'S PRESERVE THE ASSET, WHICH IS THE STORAGE, AND THEN LET'S COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW WE'RE GONNA UTILIZE THAT ASSET, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED, UM, CAPITAL PROJECT THROUGH NEXT YEAR.

SO YOU, YOU DON'T, YOU WANT TO USE THE ASSET LIKE, UM, KERRY SAID, YEAH, WE WANT TO OPERATE THOSE, THAT EQUIPMENT.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF ASSET.

WE WANT TO USE IT AS BEST WE CAN.

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE TRYING TO DO.

THIS IS, I, AGAIN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HINDSIGHT'S 2020.

I, I FEEL LIKE FROM WHERE I WAS AS A BOARD MEMBER, WE MADE THE RIGHT DECISION.

THE COMMUNITY WANTED US TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.

WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD AT THE TIME, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT DECISION TO MAKE THE, THE DIRECTION TO GO IN.

UM, I, I, I SAW THOSE BUSES.

I GOT A CHANCE TO RIDE ON ONE OF THOSE, ON ONE OF THOSE BUSES BACK IN THE EARLY TIME WHEN WE FIRST AWARDED THE CONTRACT WHEN THEY FIRST CAME IN.

AND, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S SO MANY GOOD REASONS TO, TO BE DOING THIS AND NOBODY WOULD'VE FORESEEN THAT ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS WOULD GO BELLY UP YEAH.

WOULD SPLIT AND THEN NOW, THEN THE SPLIT, WE WERE, WE WERE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT, THERE WAS A GLIMMER OF HOPE THAT, THAT WHEN, WHEN IT BECAME PHOENIX THAT WE WERE STILL GONNA GET THE PARTS AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT AVAILABLE TO US.

NOW THEN WE'RE NOT, BUT I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN STILL GET THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THE PARTS TO STILL, TO STILL SERVICE IT.

AND IF NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN STILL WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT FTA TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET, TO GET OUT OF THAT OBLIGATION.

BUT WE STILL HAVE THOSE NEW FLYERS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, REALLY UP AND RUNNING AND HUMMING AND, AND MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND, UM, I WOULD SAY GENERALLY IT IS, THERE'S ENOUGH PHOENIX TER SLASH BUSES OUT THERE THAT THERE, THERE IS SUPPORT OUT THERE.

YOU JUST NEED TO FIND IT BECAUSE IT, IT'S NOT JUST US.

WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE WE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE THE ONLY COMPANY.

THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15 OR 1600 BUSES OVER TIME THAT, THAT, UM, TER SOLD TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES.

AND, UM, THERE ARE, THERE, THERE ARE ARE GROUPS THAT HAVE PURCHASED SOME OF THE PARTS, UM, RIGHTS AND, AND ALSO OFFER TECH SUPPORT AS WELL AS EXTERRA PHOENIX EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOW ON A CONSULTANT OR ON THE SIDE TO HELP YOU.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TAP INTO THAT AND WE'RE GONNA, WE WANT TO USE THE ASSET, WE WANT TO GET HIM IN SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS LAST TIME? THREE.

OKAY.

UH, HEARING NONE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION MR. SADOWSKI.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU STARTED KNOCKING ON WOOD AND STUFF, I WAS, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WHERE YOU WERE ON THE NICKS CAVALIER SERIES , BUT UH, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, .

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WITH, WITH WITH PRESIDENT , UH, WITH PRESIDENT WATKINS BEING AUTHORIZED TODAY, WE ARE GONNA FOREGO OUR NORMAL MONTHLY, UH, CEO UPDATE, BUT WE'LL LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO HEARING FROM HER NEXT TIME.

SO BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF AND I WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO STAFF.

THEY ALWAYS DO EVERYTHING THAT'S NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PREPARED AND LOOK REASONABLE.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

UH, LET'S SEE.

THERE WILL BE NO, UM, NO FURTHER BUSINESS, SO I'LL THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME AND WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT ONE 18.