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[CALL TO ORDER ]

[00:00:03]

I'M GOING TO CALL THE ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

TODAY IS TUESDAY, MAY 19TH, 2026 AT 6:00 PM WE ARE IN AUSTIN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ROOM 1001.

I WILL START WITH ROLL CALL, UH, CHAIRMAN HANK SMITH.

I AM PRESENT VICE CHAIR BETSY GREENBERG.

HERE, SECRETARY RYAN PKI.

PRESENT PARLIAMENTARY ALEJ.

BETTER FLORES.

DO NOT SEE HER.

UH, LUIS OLUGO.

LET'S SEE HIM.

SCOTT BOONE.

DON'T SEE HIM.

DAVID FZ PRESENT.

YOU ARE THERE.

UH, LONNIE STERN IS OUT OF TOWN.

ANDREW CORTEZ PRESENT.

CHRISTIAN SHEEY PRESENT.

AND TAYLOR MAJOR PRESENT? WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 PEOPLE PRESENT.

OKAY.

UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO.

CHAIR.

OKAY.

UH, SO THE CONSENT

[Consent Agenda]

AGENDA WILL BE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM TUESDAY, MAY 5TH, 2026.

ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES? HEARING? NONE THUS, STAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM TWO, REZONING CASE C 14 20 26 DASH 0 0 2 1.

ROUND ROCK, ISD, CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION CENTER.

THE REQUEST IS FROM I-P-P-D-A TO I-P-P-D-A TO CHANGE THE CONDITIONS OF ZONING.

UH, ITEM THREE, REZONING CASE C 14 20 26 DASH 0 0 2 3 AT 88 63 ANDERSON MILL ROAD.

THE REQUEST IS I-R-R-G-R-C TO GRC, UM, AND ITEM FOUR, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SPC 2025 DASH 0 3 2 41 0 9.

MARATHON CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UH, IT WAS TO ALLOW PARKING AND THERE WAS SOME STAFF CONDITIONS THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THAT, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ALL PART OF THE BACKUP.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, CHAIR.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP ON ITEM THREE.

THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE HAVE TYLER HERRICK.

TYLER, YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY NAMED TYLER HERRICK IN THE STANDS CHAIR.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.

IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND FROM CHRISTIAN.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY.

IT IS UNANIMOUS.

WE WANT TO DISCUSS THE

[5. Discussion and action to approve a recommendation to the Austin City Council regarding the division of responsibilities between the Zoning and Platting Commission and the Planning Commission. (Sponsored by Commissioner Osta Lugo and Chair Smith) ]

ACTION TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE DIVISION RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OR DO WE WANNA WAIT TILL WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE HERE? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION UNTIL WAITING UNTIL WE HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

OKAY.

I THINK SEVERAL OF 'EM THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS ARE NOT PRESENT.

UM, GOING ON TO THE PERMANENT, OH, WHOOP, GO AHEAD.

UH, I WAS GOING TO ASK IN ADVANCE OF THAT DISCUSSION IF WE'RE GONNA DEFER IT, IF, UM, COMMISSIONER MAJOR COULD PERHAPS RESTRUCTURE HOW IT'S PRESENTED.

I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AMONG SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.

LIKE WHAT ARE PRESENT CONDITIONS VERSUS FUTURE CONDITION, YOU KNOW? UM, SURE.

SO I WAS OUT OF TOWN THE PREVIOUS WEEK, MAY 6TH, AND BEFORE THAT I WAS ON A WORK TRIP.

SO SORRY FOR NOT BEING HERE, BUT SORT OF MY APPROACH WAS, I, I KIND OF PUT SOME THINGS TOGETHER LIKE, HEY, HERE'S ZAP, HERE'S PC.

AND THEN WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN WAS, LIKE THE BROADER COMMISSION WOULD, WOULD KIND OF DISCUSS KIND OF WHERE THINGS FALL BEFORE WE EVEN GO TO A RESOLUTION STAGE.

SO I FULLY EXPECTED THE LIST I PUT TOGETHER TO CHANGE OKAY.

AFTER WE GOT INPUT FROM THE GROUP.

BUT, UH, IF, IF FOLKS ARE FINE WITH IT, I CAN CERTAINLY MAKE IT MORE PRESENTABLE.

UM, BUT THIS WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST TO GET THE DISCUSSION GOING.

'CAUSE I FULLY EXPECTED LIKE FEEDBACK AND CHANGES, WHICH I'M SUPER OKAY WITH, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS AND THE, THE CODE IS MASSIVE.

UH, I MEAN, I CAN MAKE IT MORE PRESENTABLE, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST LIKE, HEY GUYS, HERE IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO GET THE CONVERSATION GOING.

OKAY.

IF WE WANNA MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND, LET'S CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT.

IF NOT, DO IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT.

UM, AND SO, SO IT WAS INTENTIONALLY LAID OUT IN A VERY SIMPLE FORMAT BECAUSE I DID NOT WANT PEOPLE THINKING THIS WAS READY FOR A VOTE.

OKAY.

UM, SO, BUT I I, I CAN FORMAT IT NICER.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT I THOROUGHLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD STILL DISCUSS IT.

RIGHT.

AS A FULL BODY.

I AGREE.

AND, AND REALLY DECIDE WHERE THINGS GO BEFORE WE HAVE A VOTE ON IT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.

YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS, BUT HONESTLY, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF IT WAS MAYBE TABULATED WITH NO CHANGE AND CHANGE SO THAT WE COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND THE PUBLIC AS

[00:05:01]

WELL OF WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING TO CHANGE AND MAYBE A BIT OF RATIONALE.

SURE.

UH, I, I, I, I CAN FORMAT IT BETTER AND I, I I CAN, I CAN DO KIND OF A SUMMARY RATIONALE EXPLAINING, UH, KIND OF MY OVERARCHING APPROACH OF HOW I, UH, SETTLED EACH THING AND UNDER EACH CATEGORY THAT THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

I CAN TYPE UP A COUPLE SENTENCE BLURB.

OKAY.

HAS ANYBODY FROM THE PLANNING, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEEN THIS AT ALL? NO.

SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN I MET WITH, WHAT'S THE VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? UH, CASEY HANEY, BUT MAYBE IT WAS ALICE WOODS.

YES.

WOODS.

THANK YOU.

I MET WITH VICE CHAIR WOODS SHARE AND SHE SENT ME AN EMAIL.

THEY WERE INITIALLY INTERESTED AND THEN SHE SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE PROPOSING SOME CHANGES, SO WE WANNA WAIT UNTIL THE CLERK'S OFFICE GIVES AN OPINION, WHICH IS THEIR RIGHTS.

UM, WE MIGHT CHOOSE TO DO THE SAME THING AS ZAP, WHICH IS FINE.

BUT AGAIN, I I I, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING AND I I READ THROUGH ALL THE CODE AND IDENTIFIED EVERY SINGLE THING I COULD FIND.

YES, YOU DID.

.

IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT.

UM, SO I, AGAIN, I'LL, I'LL REFORMAT IT.

EXCUSE ME.

I'LL REFORMAT IT, AND THEN I'LL ALSO ADHERE TO COMMISSIONER GREENBERG'S REQUEST AND HAVE A THREE OR FOUR SENTENCE BLURB EXPLAINING THE OVERALL THOUGHT PROCESS, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW THINGS WERE DIVVIED UP.

AND THEN I CAN HAVE THAT READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT MEETING SHOULD PROBABLY BE IN TWO WEEKS, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO THE COLLEGE WORLD SERIES, BUT THAT'S LATER IN JUNE, SO I'LL BE IN TOWN FOR THAT , AND, AND I CAN, I CAN HAVE IT READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.

UH, THANK YOU.

ONE, ONE POINT OF, UH, JUST LIKE QUESTION.

SO I, I KNOW, UH, WHEN I WAS ON THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, THERE WERE SOME IDEAS THAT WERE SHOPPED AROUND TO DIFFERENT PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND A DOCUMENT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, PUT TOGETHER IN DRAFT STATUS, UM, THAT WAS SHARED WITHIN THE WORKING GROUP.

I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, UH, WE, WE CAME FROM THAT DOCUMENT, UH, TO, TO THIS DOCUMENT AND IF ANY FURTHER DIALOGUE, UH, HAPPENED WITH PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AT, AT, AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE I REMEMBER THE APPROACH AT THAT TIME, UH, HAD A SUB QUORUM OF, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER SUPPORT.

AND TH THIS SEEMS TO ME IT, IT'S NOT, UH, RECOGNIZABLE TO ME AT THIS POINT.

SURE.

SO, UH, THE, THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS LIKE, I READ THROUGH THE CODE AND IDENTIFIED EACH THING WHERE THE CODE SAID, HEY, THIS GOES TO LIKE THE, THE LAND COMMITTEE, WHICH CAN BE BOTH PARTIES.

I MADE A LIST AND I DIVID DI DIVIDED 'EM UP.

THAT WAS IT.

I DID IT ON MY OWN.

THEN DAVID AND I MET ABOUT IT OVER THE PHONE BECAUSE I THINK LUIS COULDN'T MAKE THE MEETING OR KIND OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I, AND DAVID HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND I SAID, HEY, HERE'S MY PHILOSOPHY.

HERE'S HOW I PUT IT TOGETHER.

AND HE SAYS, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S A GOOD START.

LET'S GO TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE FULL COMMISSION.

UH, SO CHRISTIAN, TO YOUR POINT, UH, IF IT'S UNRECOGNIZABLE, THAT THAT'S TOTALLY OKAY.

AND WHEN WE TAKE IT TO THE ENTIRE, WHEN THIS GOES TO THE ENTIRE BODY FOR DISCUSSION, LIKE, GUYS, WE CAN CHANGE THIS AS MUCH AS WE WANT.

I'M, I'M NOT MARRIED TO THIS.

I, I JUST LITERALLY, AT LEAST WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE AREAS OF OVERLAP AND WE CAN START HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE BEST THINK TO DIVIDE IT.

UM, SO, SO THERE'S TONS OF OPPORTUNITY, UH, CHRISTIAN, FOR, FOR YOU TO AMEND THIS AND CHANGE IT SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH IN TERMS OF THAT, THAT PREVIOUS DOCUMENT, LIKE I'M SUPER OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE NEEDED SOMETHING TO JUST KIND OF GET THE BALL ROLLING.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? I, IF IT'S OKAY, SHARING, UH, FROM THE, UH, DORKING GROUP ARCHIVES, I, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, SHARE, UH, THAT DOCUMENT WITH THE LARGER COMMISSION AS WELL, JUST UH, FOR WHAT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER ON IN THE WORKING GROUP.

YEAH, JUST THAT THE LIAISON SHOULD GET THAT TO EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

MUCH CO NOR

[PERMANENT COMMITTEE UPDATES]

JOINT COMMITTEE, THE MEETING FOR TOMORROW IS CANCELED FOR LACK OF BUSINESS.

OKAY.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, WE HAVEN'T MET IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

SMALL PLANNING AREA JOINT COMMITTEE.

WE MET TWICE IN A ROW, UM, AND HEARD A PRESENTATION ON SOUTH SHORE, UH, PUT EDITION, UH, RIGHT ALONG THE FUTURE LIGHT RAIL, UH, FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT WITH SOME PARTNER INDICATION.

COOL.

UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS?

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]

ANYTHING WE STILL HAVE? WE STILL HAVE THAT ONE THAT WAS ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

UM, I FORGET THE DATE THAT WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

[00:10:01]

NOT THIS TIME, BUT WHEN COMMISSIONER STERN WAS GONNA BE HERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'LL, WE'LL START LOOKING AT DATES TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON AN, AN UPCOMING AGENDA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT SIX 10.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.