* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER ] [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. UH, TODAY IS AUGUST 5TH. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK, AND THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. LET US BEGIN WITH A CALLING OF THE ROLE. ALL RIGHT. UH, CHAIR SETH. PRESENT, VICE CHAIR EVANS PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ACTON PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ALVAREZ. PRESENT? YES. COMMISSIONER GROGAN. OH, THERE SHE IS. YOUR MIC IS ON MUTE. SORRY. SORRY. PRESENT. UM, COMMISSIONER HARRIS. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER COOK. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. YEP. HE'S THERE TOO. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE HE FROZE VERY STILL OR HE'S VERY STILL. OH, THERE HE IS. THERE HE IS. COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. CAN YOU HEAR US? THAT'S LOOKING LIKE A NO, NO. WE'LL, WE'LL KEEP GOING. ALRIGHT. WE KNOW HE'S GETTING CLOSE. YES. UH, COMMISSIONER PLEASANT WRIGHT HERE. COMMISSIONER RICE IS ABSENT. AND COMMISSIONER UCCI PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. [PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL ] TERRIFIC. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMUNICATION? YES, WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION AND THAT IS ANN MARIE MCCASKILL. OKAY. AND NOW THESE ARE ON TOPICS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO OUR AGENDA, BUT WE CERTAINLY WELCOME YOUR INPUT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UH, MY NAME IS ANNEMARIE MCCASKILL DAVIS AND I'M THE CULTURAL FUNDING SPECIALIST SENIOR WITH ARTS CULTURE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANTS THAT ARE NOW OPEN AS OF JULY 7TH, AND WE'LL BE CLOSING ON AUGUST 18TH EIGHTH. THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT, UM, IS A PLACE-BASED PROGRAM THAT HELPS PRESERVE HISTORIC SITES, SHARE LOCAL STORIES, ROOTED IN HISTORY, SUPPORT AUSTIN'S CREATIVE COMMUNITY, AND MAKE THE CITY'S HISTORY MORE RELEVANT AND TANGIBLE. BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THERE IS A STRONG FOCUS ON WELCOMING TOURISTS AND VISITORS, ESPECIALLY TOURISTS, LOOKING FOR AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCES TO EXPLORE AND ENGAGE IN AUSTIN'S HISTORIC PLACES. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF CATEGORIES. THE FIRST IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ON THE SCREEN, UM, OF THAT PROJECT CATEGORY OF THE SOUTH GATE, SOUTH GATE LEWIS HOUSE, LOCATED AT 1501 EAST 12TH STREET. IT'S CURRENTLY UNDERGOING RESTORATION, UM, AND REHABILITATION EFFORTS. THE SITE HAS MULTIPLE HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS, INCLUDING A LOCAL, UH, UM, LANDMARK DESIGNATION. ACTIVE GRANT FUNDED ACTIVITIES INCLUDE FOUNDATION STABILIZATION, A DA ACCESSIBLE WALKWAYS, HVAC IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVED EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE, AS WELL AS REPAIR OF WINDOWS, ROOF, PORCH, AND SIDING. AS DEPICTED IN THE PHOTOS, THESE REPAIRS ENSURE THE COMMUNITY SPACE REMAINS ACTIVE AND ACCESSIBLE, ALLOWING VISITORS AND TOURISTS TO CONTINUE ENGAGING WITH ITS HISTORY. AND LATER THIS YEAR, THEIR AWARDEE WILL SHARE VISITING HOURS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE THE HISTORY OF THE SITE ON THEIR WEBSITE. THE SECOND PROJECT CATEGORY IS HERITAGE EVENTS. AN EXAMPLE OF THIS PROJECT CATEGORY IS THE BLACK HISTORY BIKE RIDE, WHICH RECEIVED A 2016 GRANT, UM, TO DEVELOP AND HOST A SERIES OF HISTORY RIDES THROUGHOUT 2026. THESE RIDES HELP TELL A MORE COMPLETE STORY OF AUSTIN BY VISITING AND HIGHLIGHTING SPECIFIC BLACK HIS HISTORIC SITES ACROSS THE CITY. UH, THEIR MOST RECENT EVENT, THE JUDE TEETH SOCIAL RIDE, BEGAN AT THE HISTORIC HASKELL HOUSE AND BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING TOURISTS TOGETHER TO HONOR, FREEDOM AND HISTORY OF BLACK AUSTIN. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY RIDES VISIT, BLACK HISTORY BIKE RIDE WEBSITE, OR THEIR INSTAGRAM PAGE. SHOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BOOK A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH STAFF. ATTEND A VIRTUAL OPEN OFFICE HOURS, WHICH ARE HELD EVERY TUESDAY DURING THE, UM, APPLICATION PERIOD FROM 10:00 AM TO NOON, UM, OR ATTEND A GRANT WORKSHOP. ADDITIONAL RESOURCES SUCH AS FILLABLE APPLICATION FORMS, RESEARCH RESOURCES AND MORE CAN BE FOUND ON THE CREATE AUSTIN RESOURCE PAGE. UH, WORKSHOP RECORDINGS AND SCORING RUBRICS CAN BE FOUND ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. INTERPRETATION AND TRANSLATION TO NON-ENGLISH LANGUAGES CAN BE PROVIDED UPON REQUEST. AND AS A REMINDER, THE HERITAGE PRESERVATION GRANT IS OPEN UNTIL AUGUST 18TH. UM, IT CLOSES AT 6:59 PM THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS CERTAINLY AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND IT'S GOT, UH, UM, I THINK WITH THE ACME CONNECTION, IT'S, UH, ENTERING A NEW PHASE THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR UPDATE. ALRIGHT, LET ME NOW CALL ON [ Consent Agenda] STAFF TO REVIEW THE AGENDA. [00:05:03] THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, AND JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, UM, NEXT WEEK AT OUR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, THE HERITAGE GRANT INFO SEC SESSION, UH, WILL BE OUR LAST ONE AT A RCI THINK YOU NEED TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MIC. THAT HELP? THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. GOOD. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JULY 1ST, 2026. THAT ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT THIS EVENING. WE HAVE TWO BRIEFINGS TONIGHT. ITEM TWO, A STAFF BRIEFING ON 1906 AND 1908 OASIS STREET, FOLLOWED BY BRIEFING ON 10 10 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ STREET. THERE ARE NO HISTORIC ZONING APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING, BUT WE DO HAVE TWO CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ITEM FOUR, PR 2 26. EIGHT EIGHT IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT. ITEM FIVE, HR 20 26 0 9 0 85 44 12 AVENUE B IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT UNDER NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT APPLICATIONS. TONIGHT WE HAVE ITEM SIX, PR 20 26 5 3 6 7 AT 1109 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. ITEM SEVEN, PR 20 26 5 9 9 8 2. AT 2009, TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD WILL ALSO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. ITEM EIGHT, PR 20 26 88 6 1 8 NHR 20 26 9 5 6 0 AT 1207 BICKLER ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM NINE, PR 20 26 7 9 3 4 9 AT 7 0 6 EAST MONROE STREET IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT. ITEM 10, HR 20 26 0 7 6 1 6 8 AT 1106 RIO GRAND STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM 11, HR 20 26 0 7 1 9 1 9 AT 7 0 5 WESTLAND STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM 12, SP 20 26 0 3 5 3 6 5 AND HR 20 26 0 7 0 0 0 9 AT SIX 11 WESTLAND STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. AND WE, AS WE MOVE INTO, UH, DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION APPLICATIONS THIS EVENING, WE HAVE ITEM 13, PR 20 26 0 4 0 4 0 3 AT 1808 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ STREET. UH, THIS IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT. ITEM 14 SP 20 25 0 9 6 2 4 2 24 0 6 ROSEWOOD AVENUE, ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND COMMISSIONER ACTON WISHES TO BE SHOWN AS RECUSING FROM THIS ITEM. ITEM 15, PR 20 26 8 0 7 5 AT 1708 WILLOW STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM 16, PR 20 26 7 3 8 2 6 AT 1915, WILLOW STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM 17, PR 2 2 6 0 8 6 8 6 9 AT 1 0 0 5 EAST 13TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, THOUGH WE DO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT FOR THIS ITEM. ITEM 18, PR 20 26 0 6 3 3 9 2 AT 1903 WESTRIDGE DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. IN OUR DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS TONIGHT, UH, WE HAVE A APPROVAL OF A DRAFT MEMO MEMO REGARDING THE ADVISORY COUNCIL TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION'S PROPOSED CHANGES TO SECTION 1 0 6 OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT OF 1966, IF ADOPTED, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKEN THE LEGAL PROTECTIONS AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. SECTION 1 0 6 PROVIDES FOR HISTORICALLY AND CULTURALLY IMPORTANT PLACES NATIONWIDE. UH, THIS DRAFT MEMO IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL. THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION? AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THE COMMENT PERIOD. UH, AND OF COURSE, IF ANYBODY DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME WOULD LIKE TO PULL ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, JUST GET MY ATTENTION. UH, WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE WILL ONE BY ONE READ THE ITEM ITSELF INTO THE RECORD FOR CONSENT. BUT WE ALSO WILL TAKE SPEAKERS IF ANY ARE, UH, INTERESTED OR SIGNED UP. I WILL POINT OUT TO THE AUDIENCE THAT IF AN ITEM IS ON CONSENT AND IT IS PASSED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEN IT IS APPROVED WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF YOUR ITEM. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO WAIVE, IF YOU'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, WE'D APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US KNOW. SO WHY DON'T WE START WITH THE FIRST CONSENT ITEM, UH, THAT WE WILL HAVE ON OUR AGENDA, AND THAT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. AND THAT WAS FROM THE MEETING ON JULY 1ST. THE SECOND ITEM [00:10:01] THAT WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, FOUR, UH, EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. IT'S AT 44 12 AVENUE B. UM, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR THIS? YES. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN FAVOR, AND THAT IS TERRY O'CONNELL. SO O'CONNELL, WOULD YOU NEED TO SPEAK? I SHE WAIVES, UH, I WILL SAY, AND OF COURSE, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU NEED TO ADD AN EXTRA COMMENT AS WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME TO. UH, THIS LOOKS LIKE A REALLY, VERY NICE PROJECT, WELL DOCUMENTED. AND, UH, I WOULD POINT TO OTHERS WHO MIGHT BE LOOKING TO DO WORK WITH HISTORIC BUILDINGS. UH, THIS ONE'S BEEN ABANDONED FOR A WHILE OR EMPTY FOR A WHILE. AND TO SEE A PROJECT THIS WELL PRESENTED, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND, UH, I'M, I, WE WON'T GET TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FULL PRESENTATION, BUT THAT IT'S WORTH PULLING OUT AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE BACKUP. OKAY. UH, NEXT ITEM THAT'S ON THE CONSENT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. NO, I'M SORRY, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. AND THAT IS AT 1207 BICKLER ROAD. WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. AND THE NEXT ONE AFTER THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 10. AND THIS IS AT, UH, 1106 RIO GRANDE. UH, THIS IS THE PS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM EITHER. OKAY. WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT A ISD IS ABLE TO PUT A VERY SOPHISTICATED TEAM TOGETHER, AND WE HOPE THERE'LL BE MORE OF THOSE AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THEIR SCHOOL RENOVATIONS. THAT'S A VERY WELCOME PROJECT TO SEE. UH, BUT IT WILL STAY ON THE CONSENT. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 11 7 0 5 WEST LYNN. WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM. UH, TWO IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. OUR FIRST IN FAVOR SPEAKER IS MIKE MCCONE. OKAY, MR. MCCONE, WOULD YOU, YOU ARE WAIVING OKAY. YOU DON'T NEED TO SPEAK. OUR SECOND IN FAVOR. SPEAKER IS KRISTEN PADICK ALSO WAIVING YOUR RIGHT. UH, INTEREST IN SPEAKING. ALL RIGHT. AND THE THIRD AND OUR IN OPPOSITION SPEAKER IS DONNA OSBORNE. MS. OSBORNE, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'M DONNA OSBORNE, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE RECENTLY RECEIVED THE NOTIFICATION REGARDING THE UPCOMING PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING. UM, BUT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF IT BEFORE THE NOTICE CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. UH, WE'VE NOT SEEN, I KNOW THERE WAS A SIGN POSTED. THERE IS NO SIGN POSTED ANYMORE. THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED THAT THERE WAS NO SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY. AND SINCE OUR ATTENDANCE AT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING IN JUNE OF 2025, WE'VE NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT CONCERNING THE PROPERTY. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE PROJECT OWNER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE AND ASKED IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THE PROJECT SO THEY CAN ATTEND OUR UPCOMING ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 27TH AND AUGUST. AND THEY HAVE DECLINED IN THIS LIGHT. WE ARE KINDLY REQUESTING THAT A POSTPONEMENT BE GRANTED TO ALLOW OUR ZONING COMMITTEE TIME TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT AND REVIEW THE NEW DOCUMENTS AHEAD OF THE NEXT SEPTEMBER MEETING. AND I DID SEND IN A LETTER ALSO, I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER LETTERS SENT IN OR COMMENTS BY NEIGHBORS. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONERS, IS ANYBODY, UH, WISHING TO HAVE THIS FOR DISCUSSION OR WILL, IF, IF NOT, WE'LL LEAVE THIS ON THE CONSENT. OKAY. I KNOW THIS, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON THE, UH, AGENDA FROM THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE. IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM . THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL, MS. OSBORNE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . UH, AND THE NEXT ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS NO ITEM 14, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, ITEM 14, THE ROSEWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. YES. 24 0 6 ROSEWOOD AVENUE. WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM. ALL RIGHT. I LIED. WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER IN FAVOR AND THAT IS KIM SHIPMAN. OKAY. SHIPMAN, I MAY WAIVE. YOU MAY WAIVE. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, THE NEXT CONSENT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 15 AT 1708 WILLOW STREET. NO SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM. OKAY. THAT IS A DEMOLITION REQUEST. ITEM NUMBER 16 AT 1915 WILLOW STREET. ANOTHER DEMOLITION REQUEST. IS THERE A SPEAKER? THERE IS NOT. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 17 AT 10 0 5 EAST 13TH STREET. UH, ANOTHER DEMOLITION REQUEST. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE ITEM. ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 18 AT 1903 WESTRIDGE DRIVE. UH, THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER DEMOLITION REQUEST. NONE ON THAT ITEM EITHER. ALRIGHT. [00:15:02] AND, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ITEM 19, THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SECTION 1 0 8, UH, CHANGES TO BE LEFT IN PLACE. AND, UH, I, THIS IS A TIME THAT STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH US OR SHOULD WE WAIT, UH, TILL AFTER, UM, CHAIR. SO WE HAD A COUPLE OF POINTS OF ORDER ON 17. WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT, JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE. UM, AND ON NUMBER 19, UM, THAT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION. UH, WE CAN EITHER APPROVE IT ON CONSENT NOW OR, OKAY, WHICH ONE WAS THAT NOW, I'M SORRY. THE, THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST, UH, 17 PR 20 26 0 8 6 8 6 9 AT 1005 EAST 13TH STREET. OKAY. I COULDN'T HEAR A WORD. SO, UH, BUT YOU, YOU'RE ALSO FARTHER, FARTHER FROM YOUR MIC. YEAH, I'M, I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR A WORD YOU SAID. SO AS I UNDERSTAND, 17, GO AHEAD. UH, SO ON ITEM 17 WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT. UM, IT WILL REMAIN ON CONSENT UNLESS THE COMMISSION WISHES TO PULL IT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE. UM, AND NUMBER 19, WE CAN EITHER APPROVE IT NOW ON CONSENT OR WE CAN PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION AND, UH, DISCUSS IT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. UM, AND THAT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION. OKAY. SO THE, THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST FROM THE NEIGHBORS, WE CAN HOLD ONTO THAT, UH, AND NOT HAVE, NOT HAVE THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS FAR AS ITEM 19 COMMISSIONERS, UH, SHOULD WE, IF, IF YOU'VE REVIEWED THAT, WE MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS NOW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, UH, THAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT. OTHERWISE, IF WE'D LIKE A LONG, LONGER PRESENTATION, WE CAN HOLD THAT AND NOT HAVE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WHY DON'T WE HOLD IT OKAY. AND GET THROUGH THE CASES. OKAY. UH, WE'LL HOLD THAT AND THAT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALRIGHT, SO LET ME MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THIS NOW. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER 8, 10, 11, 14, 15, 16, AND 18. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE ITEMS. YES. SPEAK BRIEFLY ON NUMBER 11. ABSOLUTELY. UH, JUST BECAUSE I, I APPRECIATE, UM, SOMEONE BEING HERE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER 11. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO PULL THAT ONE. THEY DID COME TO OUR LAST ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AND GIVEN THAT THE DEMOLITION ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, UM, I THINK THE, THE DESIGN WAS AT A POINT WHERE I DON'T THINK THERE'S THAT MUCH MORE CONVERSATION OR CHANGE THAT COULD BE HAD TO, TO MAKE IT ANY BETTER. I THINK THE LOSS OF THE BUILDING IS THE GREATEST LOSS, UH, AND I THINK THE, UH, REPLACEMENT PROPERTY IS, UM, IS REASONABLE, UH, IN THE CONTEXT AND, UM, BETTER THAN WE HAD SEEN BEFORE. SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T PULL IT, THAT IT'S KIND OF WANTED TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK FOR THOSE WHO TOOK THEIR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THERE A MOTION. SO MOVED. UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ACTON. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO THE POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS AND WE HAVE SEVERAL HERE FOR, FROM THE APPLICANTS ITEM NUMBER FOUR AT 10 0 5 EAST EIGHTH STREET, AND THE OTHER IS ITEM NUMBER NINE AT 7 0 6 EAST MONROE STREET. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST FROM ITEM NUMBER 12 FROM THE NEIGHBORS. BUT, UH, IF THAT IS NOT AGREEABLE TO THE O UH, APPLICANT, THEN WE WILL NOT INCLUDE THAT. THAT'LL BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST ON ITEM 12? UH, I, ITEM, EXCUSE ME, ITEM 12 WAS, UH, OH AS A DISCUSSION. I'M SORRY. I'M CONFUSING IT WITH ITEM 17. NO, ITEM 12 IS STILL FOR DISCUSSION. I WAS CONFUSING IT WITH ITEM NUMBER 17, PLEASE. MY PARDON. ITEM NUMBER [17. PR-2026-086869 – 1005 E. 13th St. ] 17 IS A REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORS. DOES THE APPLICANT APPROVE THAT IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THEY ARE HERE, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO OBJECTION. SO THAT WOULD BE A, ONCE AGAIN, A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AND WE CAN TAKE ALL THREE CASES, UH, IF THAT WOULD BE A MOTION THAT I, UH, WILL GET FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS. SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER [00:20:01] COOK, COMMISSIONER ROCHE. OH, THERE'S COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. SECONDING. THANK YOU. UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AND, AND MAY I SPEAK REAL QUICK TO SURE. TO ONE OF THEM TO, UM, ITEM FOUR, UH, 1006 EAST EIGHTH STREET. UM, THAT WAS ON THE, THE, UM, AGENDA AS A COMPLETE DEMOLITION. AS I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GONNA BE GOING AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO A PARTIAL DEMOLITION, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY GIVEN THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THE PRO THE PROGRESS ON THAT PARTICULAR CASE. THANKS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROCHE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THAT'S ONE THAT DISCUSS, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR AUDIO. UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN FIX OR YOU WANT TO TRY AGAIN? I GUESS I CAN TRY. THAT'S A LITTLE, CAN YOU HEAR? YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF GETTING GAPS IN YOUR AUDIO, BUT TRY AGAIN. NO. YEP, THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE, IN THE PACKAGE, IN THE BACKUP PACKAGE, THE ENGINEERS REPORT CITES A, UH, UH, THE CODE STANDARD. THAT'S THE INAPPLICABLE STANDARD. SO IT'S A GOOD TIME FOR, UH, CITY STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE APPLICANT TO SAY, HEY, JUST THE CURRENT IRC IS NOT THE APPLICABLE STANDARD. UNDERSTOOD. AS WE DISCUSSING AND JUST, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, EIGHTH STREET 10. OH, I BELIEVE 10 0 5 EAST A STREET. YES. OKAY. SO THAT, THAT WILL BE NOTED AS WELL IN THE RECORD. UH, WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE THE POSTPONEMENT. BUT YOU'RE SAYING ALERTING THE APPLICANT THAT THE ENGINEER IS CITING THE WRONG CODE REFERENCE. CORRECT. TERRIFIC. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, DID I GET A MOTION ON THE POSTPONEMENTS? I, I MOVED. THAT'S IT. AND WE GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND THERE AGAIN, IT'S UNANIMOUS. SO THOSE ARE ACTED UPON. WE WILL NOW PROCEED TO OUR FIRST [2. Staff briefing on 1906-1908 Nueces St. regarding administrative approval of religious-owned property per State law by Austin Lukes, Planner Senior, Historic Preservation Office, Austin Planning. ] OF THE TWO BRIEFINGS. ITEM NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS IS A BRIEFING ON, UH, THE PROPERTIES AT 1906 AND 1908 EY STREET. UM, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, TWO 11.0165 PROVIDES MUNICIPAL AUTHORITY FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. IN 2019, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE AMENDED THAT AUTHORITY THROUGH HOUSE BILL, UH, 2 4 9 6 86 R IN ADDITION TO INTRODUCING A SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION OVER OWNER OBJECTION. THE BILL MANDATED THAT PROPERTY OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS OR ORGANIZATION MAY NOT BE DESIGNATED WITHOUT OWNER CONSENT PER THE ATTACHED 2021 MEMO, WHICH YOU CAN FIND IN YOUR BACKUP. UM, TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO COMPLY WITH CITY CODE AND STATE LAW, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE MUST ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE ALL APPLICATIONS FOR THE DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION OF A BUILDING OWNED BIO RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION WITHOUT FIRST SCHEDULING A HEARING AT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AT REGULAR MEETINGS AS NECESSARY, STAFF PROVIDE THE COMMISSION WITH A BRIEFING REGARDING ANY SUCH ACTION TAKEN SINCE THE PRIOR COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE TWO PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1906 AND 1908, UH, NO STREET OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION WERE APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION ON JULY 16TH, 2026. UH, THE STRUCTURE AT 1906 NOE STREET WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1930 AND THE STRUCTURE AT 1908 WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1918 AT BOTH PROPERTIES. TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURES WAS PROPOSED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A REQUIREMENT THAT THE APPLICANT INDICATE WHAT IS GOING TO REPLACE THESE, BUT UH, WAS THERE ANY THAT WERE OFFERED OR IS THERE ANY SUGGESTION ABOUT WHAT'S COMING? UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INITIAL PLANS THAT HAVE, UM, BEEN SHOWN IN A, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION APPLICATION, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT THAT WE, UM, HAVE NOT BROUGHT THOSE FOR REVIEW AND THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY COME IN FRONT OF US FOR REVIEW ANYWAY. THAT'S CORRECT, YES. UH, AND IS ANY OF, ARE EITHER OF THOSE SITES, UH, WITHIN UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT? NO. NATIONAL OR LOCAL? I BEG YOUR PARDON. NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE NOT. SO IT WOULD OTHERWISE WE WOULD JUST BE REVIEWING IT FOR DEMOLITION IF IT WEREN'T OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. ALRIGHT, WELL WE APPRECIATE THE REPORT AND LETTING US KNOW THAT THAT WAS RELEASED. UH, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THESE, IT'S POSSIBLE THERE WAS SOME MERIT THAT WOULD BE WORTH, UH, EXPLORING [00:25:01] AND CERTAINLY, UM, BUILDINGS OF THAT KIND AND QUALITY. UH, IF THEY COME BEFORE OUR COMMISSION AND WE DO APPROVE, A DEMOLITION WOULD HAVE A FULL DOCUMENT PACKAGE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS ALSO NOT REQUIRED OF THEM IN THIS SITUATION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO UNDOCUMENTED DISAPPEARANCE OF THESE BUILDINGS STRICTLY BECAUSE A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION OWNED IT AS OPPOSED TO A PRIVATE OWNER? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION OR TWO PLEASE. UM, SO UNDER THE READING OF THAT BILL, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THE BUILDINGS HAD AN ORIGINAL RELIGIOUS CONNOTATION. IT'S AS LONG AS ORIGINAL AS THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION OWNS IT. OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT IS THAT THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP IS WHAT MATTERS IN THIS CASE. OKAY. WHAT IF THEY WERE ALREADY LANDMARKED THAT? SO IF A BUILDING WERE, OH, SORRY, , IF A BUILDING WERE ALREADY LANDMARKED COMMISSIONER, UH, IT WOULD STILL FALL UNDER OUR PURVIEW FOR REVIEW OF EXTERIOR CHANGES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? YES, I WANNA THANK STAFF FOR PROVIDING SUCH A GOOD SUMMARY. IT'S, UH, IT WAS INTERESTING TO READ THE BACKUP ON IT AND I WASN'T AWARE OF HOW SIGNIFICANT THOSE CHANGES WERE. UM, DO WE ANTICIPATE ANYTHING MORE COMING OUT OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ALONG THESE LINES? YOU MEAN WE SHOULD BUCKLE OUR SEAT BELTS AND PREPARE FOR MORE? IT'S ONLY SIX MONTHS AWAY, I THINK. UH, IT BEHOOVES US ALL TO BE VIGILANT. UM, BUT OPTIMISTIC. THANK YOU. WELL, HAVING THE 1 0 6 CHANGES AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME TRICKLE DOWN AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH, THIS IS ONE. AND I DO APPRECIATE ALSO STAFF, UH, TAKING THE INITIATIVE AT OUR REQUEST OF MAKING SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE AREN'T ABLE TO DOCUMENT THESE AS WE WOULD LIKE, UH, HAVING THEM AS REPORTS TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT THEY GO ON THE RECORD. AND WE KNOW AS THESE ITEMS, THESE SPECIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, APPLICATIONS ARE FILED AND APPROVED PER STATE LAW THAT WE ARE, WE ARE DOCUMENTING THAT UM, THAT MAY VERY WELL COME UP. THAT SOME BUILDINGS THAT WE ALL WISH, UM, WOULD HAVE COME IN FRONT OF US, UM, WILL AT LEAST HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THEM AND THEN BE ABLE TO POSSIBLY TAKE ACTION SADLY AFTER THE FACT. ONE MORE FOLLOW UP. I THINK ONE OF MY CONCERNS NOW THAT I'M THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, MANY CHURCHES ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR CONGREGATIONAL SIZES, UH, AND THEIR RESOURCES. AND I COULD SEE A CHALLENGE COMING AND IT MAY HAVE ALREADY COME HERE, IT MAY BE COMING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE WHERE UM, THE CHURCH HASN'T DISSOLVED YET, BUT SAY IT'S IN AN URBAN AREA DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, A DEVELOPER COMES ALONG WITH A PITCH AND THEY FIND A WAY OUT. AND THE DEVELOPERS, THE CONDITION OF SALE IS THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE DEMOLITION TO PREEMPT THE POSSIBILITY OF HISTORIC DESIGNATION OR EVEN A REVIEW. UM, SO FAR AS WE KNOW THAT HAS NOT BEEN HAPPENING, BUT IT IS ALWAYS, UH, THE LOOPHOLE THERE. I DON'T WANNA GIVE ANYBODY ANY IDEAS. . WELL I THINK THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WHEN WE GOT THE BRIEFING SIX, EIGHT MONTHS AGO ABOUT TRYING TO RAISE THE ALLOWABLE BUILDING ON GUADALUPE ON THE STRIP. 'CAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF RELIGIOUS BUILDINGS THERE NOW THAT ARE ALL GONNA A SUDDEN BE POTENTIALLY MORE VALUABLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE SITTING ON THE LARGER PIECES OF PROPERTY AND AS WELL. YEP, YEP. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, I SEE MIKE MCCONE HAS AT LEAST A COMMENT HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE. SO I'M GONNA ASK HIM A QUESTION, UH, WHICH I HAVE THE PURVIEW TO DO. MS. MR. MCCONE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, FOR RECOGNIZING. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AUSTIN MOSQUE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW. THEY ARE BUILDING A NEW MOSQUE HERE WITH A STUDENT COMPONENT HOUSING. THEY HAVE OWNED IT SINCE THE EARLY EIGHTIES. IT IS NOT CHANGING USE REALLY. THEY'RE SUDDENLY CHANGING TO OLDER BUILDINGS, WHICH HAS BEEN BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. AND GRANTED A DEMOLITION, UH, REQUEST AT THAT TIME WHEN MR. SADOWSKI WAS IN CHARGE OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. SO YOUR FEARS ARE WELL FOUNDED, BUT NOT IN THIS CASE. THIS IS THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION DECIDING THAT WE HAVE OUTGROWN TWO LITTLE OLD HOUSES THAT WE CAN NO LONGER MAINTAIN AND WE'RE GONNA GO BIG AND SO YOU WILL HAVE A MOSQUE IN WEST CAMPUS. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE. [00:30:01] ALRIGHT, UH, WE'LL MOVE [3. Briefing regarding updates on the project at 1010 E. Cesar Chavez St. by Ingrid Gonzalez Featherston, AIA, Senior Architect, MF Architecture. ] ON TO THE SECOND BRIEFING. UH, THIS IS THE ONE REGARDING THE PROJECT AT 10 10 EAST CESAR CHAVE CHA CESAR CHAVEZ STREET. I HELLO, MY NAME'S INGRID GONZALEZ FEATHERSTON. I'M HERE WITH MF ARCHITECTURE FOR, UM, 10 10 EAST CAESAR CHAVEZ AND 1 0 4 MEDINA STREET. UM, WE ARE JUST GIVING A BRIEFING ON THE CON, UH, CURRENT CONSTRUCTION AND WORK TO DATE. THE HISTORIC WALL HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM THE STRUCTURE AND IS CURRENTLY BEING SUPPORTED WHILE FORM WORKS ARE BEING INSTALLED. FORM WORKS ARE INSTALLED AND FORMWORK CHECK SURVEY HAS BEEN COMPLETED. EXTERIOR BEAMS HAVE BEEN DUG OUT. PLUMBERS ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLING WASTEWATER LINES IN THE RESTAURANT. THEY ARE ALSO WORKING. UM, RGC CURRENTLY IS WORKING ON MATCHING THE EXTERIOR HISTORIC SIDING AND SOURCING THE CORRECT PROFILES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MATCH THAT IN ANY REPAIR SCENARIOS WHERE WE HAD TO SELECTIVELY PATCH. AND THEN WE ARE WORKING TO SOURCE AND QUOTE, UM, WINDOW QUOTES CURRENTLY FOR THE REFURBISHMENT OF THE HISTORIC WINDOWS. ALRIGHT, WELL THAT'S VERY WELCOME NEWS. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? YES, I'M SORRY, BUT COULD YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, THE VERY FIRST PART ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ORIGINAL FACADE? IS IT STAYING IN PLACE? OH, IT'S STAYING IN PLACE. YES, EXACTLY IN PLACE. IT'S BEING SUPPORTED WHILE THE FORM WORK SURVEYS FOR THE NEW SLABS ARE BEING POURED. SO LIFTED ABOVE IT. YEAH. IT'S BEING SELF-SUPPORTED SEPARATELY FROM THE FORM WORK SURVEY, OR EXCUSE ME, FROM THE SLABS SO THAT THE FORM WORK CAN BE PLACED. AND IS THE FORM WORK GONNA PASS UNDER THE FACADE? YES. YEAH, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S BEING, IT'S LIFTED IN SEPARATELY. OKAY. DRIVE BY AND CHECK THAT OUT. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? WELL, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP TABS ON AS YOU MAKE PROGRESS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS. UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT IS POSTED FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. [6. PR-2026-053670 – 1109 Travis Heights Blvd. Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register Historic District Council District 9 ] THIS IS, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT PERMIT APPLICATION AT 1106 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1920 HOUSE. UH, THIS AMERICAN FOURSQUARE HOUSE WITH PRAIRIE SCHOOL, STYLISTIC INFLUENCES WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1920. THE TWO STORY HOUSE HAS A LOW PITCH HIP ROOF WITH BROAD OVER HANGS. THE FULL WIDTH HIP ROOF PORCH HAS A LONG OPEN SPAN SUPPORTED AT THE CORNERS BY LARGE SQUARE COLUMNS. THE SECOND FLOOR IS RECESSED CORNERS THAT HAVE BEEN INFILLED AND CONVERTED TO INTERIOR SPACE. MUCH OF THE HOUSE HAS BEEN CONVERTED COVERED WITH ALUMINUM SIDING. UH, WOOD WINDOWS APPEAR THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING WITH LARGER MULTI LIGHT FIXTURES APPEARING AT THE FRONT ELEVATION AND SIMPLER ONE OVER ONE UNITS MORE COMMON AT THE SIDES AND REAR. EARLY OWNERS OF THIS CIRCA 1920 HOUSE WERE ELMER ELMER AND CORA YOUNG. EEE YOUNG WAS CO-OWNER OF AN AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP, HART AND YOUNG, UH, WILLIE S. KNIGHT, AN OVERLAND AUSTIN AGENCY. HE LATER BOUGHT OUT HIS PARTNER AND CONTINUED OPERATION UNDER HIS NAME. HE SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL AUTOMOBILE, AUTOMOBILE DEALERS OR ASSOCIATION SHORTLY BEFORE HIS DEATH. IN 1928, UH, YOUNG BECAME SECRETARY OF THE STACY REALTY COMPANY, DEVELOPER OF THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. LATER OWNERS INCLUDED CHARLES AND CATHERINE BRENNER, WHO OWNED THE HOUSE FROM 1929 UNTIL 1947, CHARLES BRENNER OPERATED A JEWELRY BUSINESS ON EAST SIXTH STREET, BEGINNING IN THE LATE 1890S. AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1933, CATHERINE BRENNER CONTINUED TO RUN THE JEWELRY STORE FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS. IT APPEARS THAT SHE LEASED OUT THE HOUSE FOLLOWING HER HUSBAND'S DEATH, BUT MOVED BACK IN AROUND 1941. IN THE 1950S, THE HOUSE WAS OCCUPIED BY ROBERT B AND GWENDOLYN HILL. ROBERT HILL WAS A FOREMAN AT THE CAL SCHUTT LUMBER COMPANY, UH, DEPARTMENT COMMENTS FOR THIS CASE. UH, DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY REFERRED TO HLC IN JULY 9TH, 2019, AND THE CASE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDRAWN. UM, YOU CAN FIND THE MEETING MINUTES, UH, IN YOUR BACKUP. UH, A DEMOLITION APPLICATION FOR THE GARAGE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WAS SUBMITTED IN 2024, BUT THIS WAS LATER WITHDRAWN UPON THE SUBSEQUENT OWNER'S PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY ALSO ATTENDED THE JULY 15TH, 2025 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL REMODEL. THOUGH NO PERMIT APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR THE SCOPE OF WORK DOCUMENTATION, INCLUDING AGENDAS AND BACKING MATERIALS FOR THE PRE THREE PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS CAN BE FOUND IN BACKUP ATTACHED TO THIS CASE. FINALLY, PER CITY CODE, UH, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS 180 DAYS TO REVIEW DEMOLITION PERMITS IN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS STARTING FROM THE DATE THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. THIS MEANS THAT THIS, UH, APPLICATION IS SET TO TIMEOUT. ON OCTOBER 27TH, 2026, UH, THE PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER. DISTRICT PROPERTIES MUST MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AT THIS TI AND HAS DETERMINED THAT AT THIS TIME IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. THEREFORE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE [00:35:01] RELOCATION OR DECONSTRUCTION AND SALVAGE OVER DEMOLITION, BUT APPROVE THE DEMOLITION PERMANENT APPLICATION UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MUST REVIEW NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS PRIOR TO PERMIT RELEASE IN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, THIS AGAIN, HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA. UH, IT'S BEEN POSTPONED NOW. AND, UM, I GUESS, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUING, IS THE APPLICANT, UH, MR. GABE JOSEPH, IS HE HERE? HE COULD NOT MAKE IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT HE HAS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE PHONE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS PROJECT. OKAY. SO LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOT LINE, SO THAT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN, UNFORTUNATELY. SORRY. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS DEMOLITION REQUEST? NO, BUT WE DO HAVE SEVERAL IN OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. OKAY. SO LET US BEGIN WITH THEN THE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS CLIFTON LAD. OH, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA GET YOU IN ORDER. THAT'S OKAY. Y'ALL CAN STILL COME GET, GET CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. OKAY. MR. LAD, I'M TRYING TO CUT. LA . THAT'S RIGHT. ALWAYS GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CLIFTON LAD AND I'M HERE TO ASK FOR POSTPONEMENT ON THIS CASE. UM, I REPRESENT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE OF THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH I CO-CHAIR. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF USING OUR TIME EFFICIENTLY, MINE AND YOURS. I, I I, I'VE PLANNED MY COMMENTS TO COVER BOTH 1109 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD IN 2009, IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, SURE. SO THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ONE ON YOUR AGENDA, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THESE TWO CASES, INCLUDING ANITA. SHE, UM, OUR CO-CHAIR, OTHER CO-CHAIR, BARBARA SILLY, AND, UH, TWO OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMITTEE, FRANCISCO BEANTE AND LINDSEY LEE. I'M LIMITING MY COMMENTS TO JUST WHAT IS NEEDED TO INTRODUCE OUR POSITION ON THESE TWO CASES, BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR A POST A POSTPONEMENT ON BOTH OF THEM. UH, WE DID SEND YOU A LETTER ON JUNE 24TH, UM, OUTLINING OUR INITIAL POSITION ON 1109 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. UH, WE'RE STILL DOING OUR RESEARCH ON THIS HOUSE AND ITS HISTORY, SO WE REQUESTED POSTPONE ACTION ON IT. UH, WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH ON 2009 AND WE STILL HAVE MORE TO DO. SO AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING FOR A POSTPONE. BOTH OF THESE, UH, BOTH OF THEM ARE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. UH, THEY'RE MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD AND ARE VERY VISIBLE, PROMINENT HOMES IN TRAVIS ON TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. UM, THEY HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED PREVIOUSLY BY PEOPLE WHO WERE PROMINENT IN THE COMMUNITY. SO I, WE THINK THAT WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF REASONS TO CONTINUE LOOKING AT THIS AND POSSIBLY ASKING FOR, UM, UH, THOSE HISTORIC ZONING ON IT. UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UM, SEEKING TO DISCUSS, UH, THESE CASES WITH THE APPLICANT. UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH THEM YET, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL STILL BE ABLE TO. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY, UH, TONIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU. UH, ANY QUESTIONS, MR. LAD? NONE THE NEXT SPEAKER. I BELIEVE OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS A NEEDED TO SHARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, AS ZONING CHAIRMAN OF SRCC, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW MANY ZONING CASES IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. ONE OF OUR RECURRING GOALS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO PROTECT OUR HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE PROTECTED AND INVESTED IN FOR DECADES. WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO SAVE ORGANIC, SORRY, HISTORIC STRUCTURES FROM DEMOLITION. OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO WORK WITH NEW PROPERTY OWNERS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR DESIRES TO LIVE AND WORK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. FOR US, THE DEMOLITION OF THESE STRUCTURES ON OUR AGENDA REPRESENTS TONIGHT A LOSS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORY AND THE SUM OF THEIR IDEALS THAT ARE REPRESENTED BY THESE STRUCTURES. PEOPLE WANNA LIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS BECAUSE OF THE CHARM AND CHARACTER REPRESENTED BY OUR ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE. THE LOSS OF TWO STRUCTURES ON TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD, THE ANCHOR STREET OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT LOSS FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO [00:40:01] BE PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THESE DEMOLITIONS. OUR EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN THAT THESE EXISTING FOOTPRINTS OF THESE NEW BUILDINGS THAT TAKE OVER THESE HISTORIC BUILDINGS ARE CONSISTENTLY LARGER AND MORE EXPENSIVE. IN MORE INSTANCES, THERE ARE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE EXPENSIVE. I APPRECIATE AND KNOW THAT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT THE LANDMARK COMMITTEE TO DO TO STOP DEMOLITION PERMITS, BUT WE NEED TO USE EVERY TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON TRAVIS HEIGHTS. I HOPE WE CAN SAVE THESE BUILDINGS FROM DEMOLITION AND I WILL WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMITTEE TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION IS BARBARA. SILLY. SILLY. UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THIS WAS THE SITE OF THE CALCO SHOE LUMBER COMPANY THAT THIS BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED ON. JUST FYI, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT. OKAY. I, UM, I REALLY WAS GONNA SHOW THESE TO YOU. SO LAST TIME. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THE, YOU KNOW, CREPE . OKAY? THIS IS THE STRUCTURE. AND IF YOU'RE COMING UP THE HILL FROM RIVERSIDE DRIVE, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, STRUCTURES THAT YOU SEE. UM, NEXT SLIDE. I DON'T KNOW. OH, OKAY. THIS STRUCTURE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE STACEY HOUSE, AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU THE STRUCTURES TO GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF THIS BUILDING. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT STRUCTURES IN THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS A VERY ROMANTIC BUILDING. UM, IT'S YOU, I, I DEBATE ABOUT, IS IT A SWISS COTTAGE? YOU KNOW, IS IT TOO, YOU KNOW, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S A VERY, VERY ROMANTIC STRUCTURE AND A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, AND HAS BEEN RESTORED MAGNIFICENTLY AS YOU CAN SEE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AH, THE CREPE MYRTLES. THESE CREPE MYRTLES. AND I'M GONNA CONFESS, I TORE DOWN THE CREPE MYRTLE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE. I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING. UM, OKAY, SO THIS IS A HUNDRED YEARS OF HISTORY IN THESE CREPE MYRTLES. THIS, WHEN I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE AVENUE AND THE SWEEP AND THE VISTA OF THE CREPE MYRTLES. HERE THEY ARE NOW. THEY DON'T LOOK THIS GOOD NOW 'CAUSE OF THE WEATHER, BUT ANITA, WHO WENT WITH ME AND GRACIOUSLY TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS WHILE I WAS POINTING. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW DELIBERATE THIS PLAN IS. LOOK AT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S THE TREE LAWN THAT PROCEEDS UP THE AVENUE TO, UH, EAST LIVE OAK. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE BUNGALOWS. IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AGAIN, THE CONTEXT. IT'S ALSO BEEN, UH, BEAUTIFULLY RESTORED. IT WAS ORIGINALLY, IT'S BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE OF RESTORATIONS ACTUALLY. AND IT WAS, UM, UM, THE PROFESSOR OF ARCHITECTURE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACTUALLY OWNED THIS FOR A WHILE. SO I'VE BEEN IN IT SEVERAL TIMES. AND IT, THE INTERIOR IS ALSO VERY WELL DONE, BUT IT'S GOT ALL THE ELEMENTS OF A BUNGALOW THAT YOU JUST ADORE. I MEAN, IT'S GOT THE PORCH, THE DOUBLE GAVE. AND THE REASON THIS, I'M MAKING THE POINT ABOUT THE ELEMENTS OF A BUNGALOW IS I'VE LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT AND HONESTLY, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE STYLE VOCABULARY OF THE BUNGALOW AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T THINK THEY'VE EVER HAD AN EVE COLUMN OR A PORCH. WELL, AND THERE'S YOUR TIME, BUT WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WELL, UM, I HOPE YOU'LL LOOK AT THE CREPE MYRTLES, THINK ABOUT THE CONTEXT AND PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN FOR US. . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANOTHER SPEAKER? YES. OUR LAST IN OPPOSITION SPEAKER IS FRANCESCO PASANTE. THANK YOU. UM, I'M FRANCISCO PASANTE. I LIVE IN TRA SITES AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE PRESERVATION [00:45:01] COMMITTEE OF THE SRCC. UM, LIKE CLIFTON LAND AND BARBARA SILLY, I WILL ADDRESS BOTH 1109 AND 2009 TRA HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. UM, THE, WHAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON IS FIRST OF ALL, THE BOULEVARD, WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO THE IDENTITY OF TRA HEIGHTS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, AS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IN BOTH CASES, I THINK WHAT, WHAT IS IMPOR, WHAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT TWO THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. ONE IS THAT IT IS NECESSARY TO RENEW THE BUILDING STOCK BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT JUST FALLS APART. UM, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, IT IS EQUALLY NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL COHERENCE OF THE BOULEVARD AND OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE. AND IN BOTH CASES, THE WAY TO DO IT IS ADAPTIVE REUSE IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. UM, I THINK IN THE CASE OF 1109, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE BUILDING AS A WHOLE AND THEN, UM, RESTORE, RESTORE IT, AND BUILD NEW BUILDING STOCK IN THE BACK. IN THE CASE OF 11, UH, OF 2009, I THINK IT'S, IT IS PERFECTLY POSSIBLE TO USE THE EXISTING BUILDING AS A FRONT ON THE STREET AND BUILD IN THE BACK. UM, THIS IS ALL TO SAY, I THINK WE SHOULD NOT SIMPLY THINK OF PRESERVING THE RESULTS OF VERY MUCH THE ISSUE OF RENEWING. AND I THINK BOTH CAN BE RECONCILED, UH, WITH A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH WHOEVER WANTS TO DO IT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU MR. SANTE. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? OKAY, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. UH, ANY MORE SPEAKERS? ALRIGHT, UH, I WILL NOTE, WELL BEFORE WE, WE GO ANY FURTHER THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT DID, UH, AS PART OF THE BACKUP INDICATE, UH, WITH EMAIL THAT THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND. BUT IN THE COURSE OF THE EMAIL, UH, AND THEY, UH, ADDRESSED IT TO STAFF, THEY SAID THAT THE, UH, THEY SAID THAT IT CANNOT BE PRESERVED BECAUSE IT'S STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. DID WE GET ANY INDICATION OR BACKUP OF ANY STRUCTURAL REPORTS, ANY BACKUP THAT WOULD SHOW THAT THERE WAS STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS THAT BEYOND WHAT WE SAW IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS, THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY SORT OF DOCUMENTATION TO THAT. UM, AND HAVE YOU RESPONDED AND REQUESTED THAT THOSE BE SUBMITTED? WE HAVE NOT. UM, THIS, UH, STATEMENT CAME IN THIS AFTERNOON, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO YEAH, I NOTICED IT WAS NEWLY PUBLISHED. SO, YEAH, I, CONSIDERING THE EFFORTS NOW THAT THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN MAKING PARTICULARLY THE, UM, OPERATIONS COMMITTEE IN TRYING TO STANDARDIZE AND MAKE VERY CLEAR, IF SOMEBODY'S MAKING A CLAIM ABOUT STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY, THERE ARE VERY CLEAR WAYS TO ESTABLISH THAT. AND IF THAT CLAIM IS BEING MADE, I DO THINK WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND ASK HIM TO SUBSTANTIATE THAT, UH, PER OUR STANDARDS. OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY IT'S GONNA FALL DOWN AND IT MIGHT IN 200 YEARS IF YOU DON'T FIX IT. BUT OTHERWISE THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO ESTABLISH THAT. ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY QUESTION BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER HARRIS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HEARING IS CLOSED. COMMISSIONERS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION MOVE TO OPEN THE HEARING ON THIS MATTER. YOU WOULD MOVE TO POSTPONE? YES. SO YOU'LL WANT TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN MOVE TO POSTPONE AND MOVE TO POSTPONE TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL SECOND AND, UH, ASK FOR, AND I'LL SECOND AND ASK FOR AN ADDITION OF [00:50:01] A RECOMMENDATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK. THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IS THAT, THAT THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, WITH A REFERRAL TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. UH, COMMISSIONER HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? YES, I, UH, I THINK THERE'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, UH, RESTORE 1109 TRAVIS HEIGHTS. I THINK IT'S, UH, AN IMPORTANT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OBVIOUSLY A KEY TO TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE OWNER HAS YET TO MEET WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY ARISES. I THINK IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE TO SUGGEST SOME MODELS THAT MIGHT WORK THAT MIGHT PROVIDE THE OWNER WITH, UM, SUFFICIENT PROFIT THAT COULD PRESERVE THE HOUSE AND PERHAPS REDEVELOP ON OTHER PARTS OF THE, THE OTHER LOT, UM, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE. UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, THEY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION YET AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO DO SO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER COOK. NOW I'LL SECOND THAT. UM, IT'S, THIS IS A PROMINENT STREET. IT'S ON A PROMINENT HILL. IT'S, YOU KNOW IT BECAUSE OF THOSE, IT'S A PROMINENT HOME. IT WAS FEATURED IN THAT ADVERTISEMENT THAT'S IN THE BACKUP WITHIN A LARGE INSET PHOTO FOR A REASON. AND AS I RECALL IN 2019, IT HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INTEREST AT THAT TIME TOO. I DON'T RECALL THEN OR NOW ANY STRUCTURAL REPORTS OR EVEN INTERIOR PHOTOS AS ANY ARGUMENT TO INTEGRITY OR CONDITION. AND UH, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAD THE IMITATION OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, THIS, THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN BEFORE THE COMMISSION MANY TIMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND, UM, I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION, THE VERY UNIQUE STYLE OF THIS HOUSE, I THINK PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO A SENSITIVE ADDITION BECAUSE THE STRONG STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS AND OVERHANGS AND THE COLUMNS, I THINK, ALTHOUGH HISTORIC REALLY DO SPEAK TO THE VOCABULARY OF THEIR DESIGN SENSE. AND I THINK THEY COULD REALLY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING WIN-WIN, UH, SOLUTION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. SO, UM, AND IT'S THE LOT'S, WELL, WELL ADAPTED TO A SIDE EDITION. I THINK IF THEY RESTORE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND DESIGNING THEIR OWN VOCABULARY THAT THE TWO WOULD WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER AND I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD SHOW OF GOODWILL TOWARD THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHERE THEY'VE LOST A LOT OF THE HISTORIC RESOURCES. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I'M SEEING ALL HANDS RAISED. SO MOTION PASSES. THE NEXT ITEM, UH, FOR DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AT [7. PR-2026-059982 – 2009 Travis Heights Blvd. Travis Heights-Fairview Park National Register Historic District Council District 9] 2 0 9 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. AGAIN, THE SAME APPLICANT, MR. GABE JOSEPH, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT MAY HAVE ADDRESSED BOTH, IF THE SPEAKERS WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SPEAK ON BOTH, THAT WOULD STILL BE YOUR PURVIEW. BUT, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WE'LL START THE, UH, PRESENTATION. THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH THE CIRCUIT 1939 HOUSE. UH, THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THIS HOUSE CAN BE SEEN AT THE RIGHT TWO THIRDS OF THE, THE STREET FACING FACADE, WHICH STILL RETAINS SOME TUDOR REVIVAL DETAILS SUCH AS THE ARCH DOOR AND STEEP ROOF PITCH. ORIGINAL SIDELIGHTS AND MODEST FRONT PORCH WITH CONCRETE STAIRS CONTINUE WITH THIS STYLE. THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL IS STUCCO OR PLASTER, WHICH MAY BE ORIGINAL, BUT HAS BEEN PAINTED TO THE NORTH OF THE MAIN HOUSE, IS A 2012 EDITION OF COVERED PORCH, WHICH WAS ENCLOSED WITH WALLS COVERED IN MATCHING PAINTED STUCCO AND APPEARS FROM THE STREET AS CONDITIONED SPACE. HOWEVER, BEHIND THIS IS A PERGOLA THAT IS ALSO ENCLOSED BY FULL HEIGHT WALLS, THOUGH NO ROOF COVERS IT. ORIGINAL OWNERS OF THIS HOUSE, SR. AND MAXINE BLAKE, UH, WHO WORKED IN SALES AND BRIEFLY LIVED AT THE PROPERTY BEFORE IT WAS ACQUIRED BY FRANK AND FLORENCE, UH, UH, SHEPA SHEPA, THEN JASON AND VIRGINIA FORBES, WHO OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. DURING THEIR OWNERSHIP, JASON FORBES WENT FROM A RECORD KEEPER AT THE TEXAS STATE HOUSE REPORTER TO A CORRESPONDENT AND FINALLY AN EDITOR OF THE PUBLICATION. BY 1957, THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD AGAIN TO FLOYD AND PEARL FORESTER, UH, PER CITY CODE. THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS 180 DAYS TO REVIEW DEMOLITION PERMITS IN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT STARTING FROM THE DATE THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED. THIS PERIOD, UH, IS SET TO TIMEOUT ON NOVEMBER 9TH, 2026. THIS PROPERTY CONTRIBUTES TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS FAIRVIEW PARK. NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT PROPERTIES MUST MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE PROPERTY AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE RELOCATION OR DECONSTRUCTION AND SALVAGE OVER DEMOLITION, BUT APPROVE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATION UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, [00:55:01] THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MUST REVIEW NEW CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS PRIOR TO PERMIT RELEASE AND NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THIS CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS. WE HAVE SEEN THIS CASE AND IT WAS POSTPONED FROM OUR JULY 1ST MEETING. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? AND IS THE APPLICANT, UH, OBVIOUSLY SAYS HE COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT IS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AVAILABLE? IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THEY ARE STILL NOT ONLINE. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION REQUEST? NO. IN FAVOR SPEAKERS. OKAY. WELL THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE CLIFTON LAD AGAIN IN OPPOSITION. MR. LAD, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME SPEAK AGAIN OR YOU COULD SAY YOUR COMMENTS WERE ALREADY RECEIVED. I THINK MY COMMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECEIVED. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT IN OPPOSITION SPEAKER IS LINDSAY LEE. OKAY. HI, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LINDSAY LEE AND THIS IS MY SECOND TIME ATTENDING ONE OF THESE MEETINGS. I HAVE LIVED IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR TO 2009 TRAVIS HEIGHT BOULEVARD FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS. UM, WE ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 30 DAY POSTPONEMENT. WE HAVE A FEW RESEARCHERS THAT ARE WORKING ON UNCOVERING MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO LOOK THROUGH HERE WITH THESE PHOTOS THAT WE PROVIDED ARE THE CONDITION OF THIS HOME. UM, CAN WE GO TO THIS SLIDE? THE, THE, UM, ONE WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE TOP. SO ONE THING THAT'S EXTREMELY UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THAT THIS IS AT THE TOP OF THE HILL AT THE HIGHEST POINT OF ELEVATION IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. MEANING THAT WHATEVER IS BUILT MULTIPLE STORIES, IT'S GONNA BE SEEN ALL THE WAY AROUND 360. UM, IT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE ELEMENTS THAT I THINK IS PART OF THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TO 1109, WHERE WE REALLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF WHAT WE ALLOW TO BE BUILT HERE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE SO PROMINENT. UM, AND THEN CAN WE JUST PROCEED TO SOME OF THE INTERIOR PHOTOS? I REALLY WANNA SPEAK TO THAT. THERE'S NO STRUCTURAL ISSUES WITH THIS HOME. I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR EMAIL THAT THEY SENT WAS REFERRING TO THIS AND 1109, BUT AS WE KIND OF LIKE, WE CAN GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, WE CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL HOME IN GREAT CONDITION. UM, TOTALLY LIVABLE AND VERY BEAUTIFULLY UPDATED. THE OWNER OF THIS HOME, WHICH ALSO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE CASE THAT BOTH THIS HOME CAN WE STOP RIGHT HERE ALSO? GO BACK. YEAH. THIS HOME, UM, AND 1109, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OUTRIGHT PURCHASED. I THINK THEY, THEY'VE BOTH BEEN PURCHASED ON CONTINGENCY. UM, AND I BELIEVE THE CONTINGENCY IS IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DEMOLISH, THEY WILL PURCHASE THESE HOMES. AND IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DEMOLISH, THEY WON'T PURCHASE THESE HOMES. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE REALLY UNIQUE FEATURES. WE HAD KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. UM, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A PERGOLA, THE VERY BACK PART OF THIS YOU CAN SEE IS ACTUALLY OPEN TO THE EXTERIOR. THE PHOTO THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED, THERE IS A LOT OF OVERGROWTH. IT MAKES IT KIND OF LOOK LIKE IT'S ABANDONED, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT THIS IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS WHO SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE UNIQUE COMPONENT OF THIS PROPERTY. THIS WAS THE ADDITION THAT WAS VERY THOUGHTFULLY DONE IN, UM, 2012, I THINK. SO BASICALLY, I JUST WANNA SPEAK TO THE, THIS HOME IS IN GREAT CONDITION. IT IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY THAT IS DESERVING OF BEING PRESERVED. AND LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, TRAVIS HEIGHTS IS UNIQUE FOR THE REASONS OF IT BEING A HISTORIC AREA, BUT ALSO HAVING THESE HOMES THAT CAN'T REALLY BE CREATED WITH NEW MODERN MATERIALS. UM, SO FOR THAT REASON, I AM REQUESTING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET ANOTHER 30 DAY DELAY SO THAT WE CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS HOME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER? I ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER? OUR LAST IN OPPOSITION SPEAKER WAS FRANCESCO PASANTE, BUT HE HAS INDICATED TO ME THAT HE IS GOOD ON HAVING ALREADY SPOKEN FOR BOTH. ALRIGHT. UH, IF THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS, THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER ACTON SECOND. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TANYA WRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RIGHT HAND. UH, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, I'M SORRY. PLEASANT WRIGHT. EXCUSE ME. , UH, AS OUR SECONDER, UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS. UH, THERE'S A REQUEST FOR A POSTPONEMENT. UM, BUT COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING [01:00:01] AND TO, UH, TABLE THE ITEM TILL THE SEPTEMBER MEETING POSTPONED TO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. UH, OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. COMMISSIONER ACTON, UH, THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. COMMISSIONER HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? WELL, I THINK OUT OF, UH, CONSISTENCY, SAME DEVELOPER, SAME STREET, SAME OPPORTUNITY, SIMILAR OPPORTUNITY. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE AND BUILD ADD SQUARE FOOTAGE TO SELL FOR PROFIT, UH, AND RETAIN THE, UH, THE FEEL OF THE STREET. AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER WOULD COME AND MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ACTON. UH, AND, UH, I HOPE THAT, I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ADDITIONAL TIME WOULD BRING, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE CURRENT OWNER OR POTENTIAL OWNER, UM, INTO THE FOLD TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE. I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND IT KIND OF REINFORCES WHAT MY, I'VE BEEN OBSERVING ON THIS. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS NOW THAT THE ADDITION THAT'S NON HISTORIC WAS VERY SENSITIVELY DONE. UH, YOU COULD QUIBBLE WITH WHETHER IT FEELS A LITTLE TOO MUCH LIKE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF AND REINFORCES THE BIGGER IDEA OF THAT, UH, AS A HISTORIC ENTITY. SO MUCH SO THAT IF IT WERE A HISTORIC MONUMENT AND THAT TYPE OF ADDITION WE'RE PROPOSED TO US, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOME FINE TUNING, BUT WE'D HAVE APPROVED IT. SO, UH, I, I THINK THAT THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S BEEN CHANGED IS NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, AS A, AS A LANDMARK BUILDING. BUT I DO THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL AND EVALUATE THAT MAYBE IN MORE DETAIL, PARTICULARLY IF, UH, THERE'S MORE EVIDENCE OF SOME OF THE INDICATION OF WHO OWNED IT AND OTHER ASSOCIATIONS THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE. SO I HOPE THAT THE DELAY WILL BE WELL USED AND PERHAPS ALSO AS WE HAD WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, UH, AN INVITATION TO THE APPLICANT TO LOOK CREATIVELY AT THE BUILDING THEY HAVE AND WHAT COULD BE DONE TO WORK WITHIN THIS VOCABULARY, BUT DO SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL WITH, UH, EITHER AN ADDITION OR ADJACENT CONSTRUCTION INSTEAD OF A DE INSTEAD OF A DEMOLITION. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE. OH, YES. UH, COMMISSIONER PLEASANT WRIGHT, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, TO ANSWER HER QUESTION THAT YOU ONLY JUST SPOKE, HE ONLY RESPONDED TO THE 1109 PROPERTY IN HIS RESPONSE. SO IN THE DOCUMENTATION IT DIDN'T COVER THIS ADDRESS. YEAH. SO HE MADE NO CLAIMS ABOUT THE STRUCTURE ON THIS ONE? NO, NO HE DIDN'T. TERRIFIC. ALRIGHT. UH, I WILL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND THERE AGAIN, I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. UH, WE WILL SEE, SEE YOU ALL IN SEPTEMBER. UH, THE NEXT ITEM FOR [12. SP-2026-035365; HR-2026-070009 – 611 West Lynn St. West Line National Register Historic District Council District 9 ] DISCUSSION IS ITEM NUMBER 12 AT SIX 11 WESTLAND STREET. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A TOTAL OF EIGHT MULTI-STORY HOUSING UNITS ORIENTED AROUND A CENTER DRIVEWAY AND POOL AREA. FIVE UNITS AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY WILL FACE THIS NEW DRIVEWAY AND THE THREE REAR REAR UNITS WILL FACE A REAR ALLEY. THIS DRIVEWAY WILL REQUIRE A NEW CURB CUT ON THE SITE. UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY A VACANT LOT. THE ORIGINAL HOUSE OF ON THIS PROPERTY WAS DEMOLISHED IN 2020 AFTER REVIEW BY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. THE HOUSE, UH, THAT WAS ON THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT AROUND 1899 BY ROY AND HELEN SLAUGHTER, WHO RESIDED AT THE ADDRESS UNTIL THE MID 1940S. ROY SLAUGHTER WORKED AT BROWN BROTHERS, A MORTGAGE AND INVESTMENT FIRM FOR MANY YEARS, STARTING AS A CLERK BEFORE BECOMING A LAND AND MORTGAGE AGENT. AND FINALLY, PROPRIETOR OF THE FIRM WITH HIS PARTNER GEORGE F. ZIMMERMAN. AFTER HE DIED IN 1944, HIS WIDOW HELEN CONTINUED TO LIVE AT THIS HOUSE FOR A SHORT PERIOD AND THEN SOLD IT TO CHARLES AND MAGDALENE DILLEY, UH, WHO LIVED AT THE PROPERTY UNTIL THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS ARE BASED ON THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR RE REHABILITATION AND ARE USED TO EVALUATE PROJECTS IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. UM, THE PROJECT, UH, AS PROPOSED MEETS SOME OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS, UM, TO RECAP PREVIOUS, UH, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ACTION, UM, OF DEMOLITION APPLICATION FOR THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY WAS APPROVED AT THE MAY 21ST, 2018 HLC MEETING PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. UH, MEETING MINUTES MAY BE FOUND IN YOUR BACKUP, UM, AS WELL AS THE STAFF REPORT. UH, THIS APPLICATION IS SET TO [01:05:01] TIME OUT ON OCTOBER 19TH, 2026. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RELEASE THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU. UH, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK THE DRAWINGS AS THEY'RE SHOWN IN OUR PACKET, HAVE A, UH, SITE PLAN. WE HAVE, UM, A ONE RENDERING OF AN INTERIOR COURTYARD VIEW, AND THEN WE HAVE A SERIES OF A SINGLE LINE DRAWING DIAGRAMMATIC ELEVATIONS. IS THAT THE EXTENT OF THE DRAWINGS THAT, THAT WE KNOW OF AT THIS TIME? AT THIS TIME, YES. THEY'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH A SITE PLAN, UH, REVIEW. UM, OTHERWISE, YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR, FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW. BUT THAT'S NOT TELLING US A LOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OR MATERIALS OR ANYTHING OF THAT KIND. OKAY. THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, WE, AND WE MAY HEAR MORE FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, UH, CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, I, MIKE MCCONE, FOR THE OWNERSHIP AND, UH, WANNA THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS? UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND THIS, UH, UH, PROPOSAL PURCHASE WAS, UH, REAL, VERY RECENT, AND WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WOULD MAKE GOOD SENSE TO THE, UH, AND IN THE CITY OF ADDING ADDITIONAL UNITS ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGE, SUCH AS THIS, RATHER THAN HAVING, UH, RATHER LARGE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, WESTLAND IS A PRETTY COMMERCIAL STREET NOW, AND, UM, WE FELT THAT THIS MULTI-FAMILY USE WAS AN APPROPRIATE USE. THE ARCHITECT IS HERE AND CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. IN GENERAL, THE HAVE WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN MAY. THE, UH, PROPOSALS AND COMMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE ADDED TO THE PLANS AND SKETCHES THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. WE REALIZE THAT THESE ARE NOT, UH, COMPLETE PLANS, BUT THEY ARE, UH, IN THE MASSING AND THE, UH, DESIGN, UH, CHARACTERISTIC OF THE, AND THE AREA AND OF THE, OF A DENSITY THAT WOULD, UH, ALLOW FOR MORE THAN, UH, WHAT IS TYPICALLY, UH, AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WITH THAT, I'LL ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. YOU'VE MENTIONED, UH, THAT THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH NEIGHBORS, BUT WE'VE GOT QUITE A NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS WHO ARE SAYING THAT THEY'RE ONLY JUST NOW FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS. UH, WELL, I HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE WAS WHO WAS AT THE MEETING, AND IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY ON THE DIAGRAMS AND PLANS THAT YOU HAVE, THE COMMENTS THAT THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE PLANS WERE FROM THAT MEETING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS A MEETING. THERE WAS A MEETING, YES. OKAY. NOW, THEY MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THESE FINAL DESIGNS, UH, THAT WE'RE JUST GETTING DONE, BUT WE WANTED TO, BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE HERE, UH, WE'RE KIND OF STRETCHED. THIS IS, GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2024, UH, TO VERY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TIMELINES RUNNING AGAINST US HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THOSE SO WE CAN HAVE A PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND. UM, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU ARE SUBMITTING FOR SITE PERMIT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY THE FOOTPRINTS OR ANY OF THE SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT OR MAJOR DESIGN ELEMENTS, BUT ANY KIND OF DEF DEFINITION, REFINEMENTS, ALL OF THOSE, UM, DO YOU NEED HISTORIC APPROVAL IN ORDER TO GET A SITE APPROVAL? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD, UH, THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE THAT. WE HAVE BEEN BACK HERE AND, UH, THAT YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY A CHECK MARK ON THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS. UH, UNDER THE NEW, IT IS A NEW, IT IS A NEW WORLD AND MR. CHAIR, THEY HAVE DONE AN EXPEDITED SITE PLANNING REVIEW AND, UH, OKAY. WELL, I UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S, IT'S PRUDENT TO HAVE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECOME ONE OF THE CHECK MARKS YET. YES. I'M NOT SURE EITHER, SIR. OKAY. IT'S BRAND NEW. IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE'LL ASK STAFF TO LOOK INTO . YES. SHOULD. OKAY. IF YOU NEED INFORMATION FROM THE ARCHITECT ABOUT THE FINISHES THEY ARE CONSIDERING AND THAT SORT OF THING, UH, SHE IS HERE AND PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT. UH, WE CAN CALL HER IF THE, [01:10:01] SHE'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS THE NEXT SPEAKER. IS IT KRISTEN PADICK? YES. OKAY. ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCONE? ALRIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKER. HI, MY NAME IS KRISTEN PADICK. I'M WITH CEDAR, UH, THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM WORKING ON THE PROJECT. UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE PROJECT. WE'RE IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN RIGHT NOW. IT'S IN AN SDP PROCESS. UM, AND, AND SO WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO ALL ARE IS WHERE THE PROJECT IS NOW. WE THINK WE FIXED THE PLANS AND THE ELEVATIONS TO WHAT THEY WILL BE. UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO DESIGN DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, AND WE THINK THE MATERIALS REFLECT WHAT THE FINAL MATERIALS WILL BE. UH, WE HAVE DIAGRAMS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY MATERIALS CALLED OUT, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE US A FLOOR PLAN, BUT IT CAN BE HELPFUL. RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE FOOTPRINTS. SO PERHAPS YOU COULD JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE DESIGN INTENT IS. SURE, DEFINITELY. AND, UH, AT LEAST WHERE YOU ARE AT THIS STAGE. SO, UM, THE UNITS ARE ALL THREE STORY, UM, TOWN HOME UNITS, BUT THEY ARE STANDALONE, UM, UNITS. THEY'RE NOT ATTACHED. UM, THEY HAVE ROOF DECKS ON THE TOP FLOOR. THE GROUND FLOOR IS, UM, TUCK UNDER PARKING WITH A FOYER AND A SINGLE BEDROOM. AND THEN THE SECOND LEVEL IS THE LIVING SPACE WITH A BALCONY. AND THEN THE, UM, THIRD FLOOR ARE THE BEDROOMS. UM, WE'RE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE REFINING THE PLANS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE IN SCHEMATIC DESIGN, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE WHAT THE LAYOUT IS FOR ALL THE UNITS. UM, THERE ARE FIVE UNIQUE UNIT TYPES, SO THERE WILL BE, THEY WILL NOT BE ALL THE SAME. THEY ALL REFLECT SORT OF THE DIFFERENT SIDING THAT THEY HAVE. UM, THE MATERIALS WILL BE LIMESTONE AT THE BASE OF THEM, UH, STUCCO AND THEN SOME, UM, TERRACOTTA ELEMENTS. UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME LARGE OPEN BALCONIES WITH A LOT OF PLANTINGS, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE EARLY REPRESENTATIONS AND RENDERINGS. AND THE CENTER OF THE SITE IS A, UM, THE WHOLE CONCEPT BEHIND THE SITE IS A SORT OF A WELLNESS, UM, RETREAT FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN. SO, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, SOME OUTDOOR YOGA LAWNS AND THERE'LL BE SOME, A POOL AREA. UM, JUST SOME GARDENS, A LOT OF GARDEN FEATURES THROUGHOUT. OKAY. AND THE, UM, THE WINDOWS AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MATERIALS, METAL OR WOOD? UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, THE RENDERINGS WOULD INDICATE IT COULD BE EITHER. OH YEAH. THEY'LL MOST LIKELY BE METAL WINDOWS ON THEIR LARGE EXPANSES. SO THERE'LL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, LARGER WINDOWS, BUT MOST LIKELY THERE'LL BE METAL. AND WITH THE FACE TOWARDS WEST LYNN WOULD, I CAN'T TELL. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET A GARAGE DOOR FACING WEST LYNN. NO, THERE ARE NO GARAGE DOORS, FACES. I DON STREET. I DON I DON'T, I I DON'T HAVE A GOOD INDICATION OF ANYWAY. I THINK OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD, WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, YEAH, WE'VE SHOWN A SCHEMATIC OF WHAT THE FACADE WILL LOOK LIKE FACING WEST LYNN. THERE WILL BE NO GARAGE DOORS. THEY ALL FACE THE DRIVE. UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE LOTS OF WINDOWS, A BEAUTIFUL SENSE OF ENTRY FOR, UM, THE UNITS. WE REALLY WANT THEM TO FRONT THE STREET IN A VERY, UM, ATTRACTIVE WAY. UM, SO WE'RE JUST PUSHING THROUGH THAT PART OF DESIGN RIGHT NOW. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE STORK NATURE OF IT. THIS HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE PRACTICALITY OF IT. UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE OR IS THERE ANY GUEST PARKING ON THIS PROPERTY? YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE HAD. UM, AND WE'VE INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN, THE CHANGES WE MADE TO MAKE SURE WE EXPLAINED THAT IT'S ALL GUEST PARKING, UM, THAT IS SHOWN IN THE EXTRA SPACES THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. ALL OF THOSE SPACES WILL BE FOR GUEST PARKING. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A TOTAL OF TWO THAT ARE ON THE MAIN STREET, AND THEN FOUR, THEY'RE OFF THE ALLEY AND THAT'S ALL INTENDED FOR GUESTS. OKAY. UH, I'VE LOOKED AT AN AWFUL LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE EXACTLY LIKE THIS AND, UH, IT'S, MANY OF THEM ARE NOT TERRIBLY PRACTICAL AND THEY'RE LOCATED ON STREETS THAT ARE NOT, SAY, SOUTH LAMAR, WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET. AND I KNOW IT CREATES PROBLEMS WITHIN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, AS I SAID, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY HISTORIC, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THE PRACTICALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND YEAH. THIS PARTICULAR PATTERN AND NOT TERRIBLY FAMILY [01:15:01] FRIENDLY EITHER. BUT I, I UNDERSTAND, UM, I KNOW IT MATTERS TO THE OWNER THAT, UM, HE PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE BUYING THESE UNITS. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL GUEST PARKING. IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A FEW MORE THAT WERE MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE ARCHITECT? ALRIGHT, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE SPEAKING IN FAVOR? NO. OTHER IN FAVOR SPEAKERS. OKAY. DO WE HAVE PEOPLE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION? YES. WE HAVE TWO IN OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. OUR FIRST AND OPPOSITION SPEAKER IS DONNA OSBORNE. HELLO AGAIN. DONNA OSBORNE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ANA AND A NEIGHBOR, 40 YEARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND MAYBE SOME, UH, COMMENTS WERE TAKEN FROM A MEETING WE HAD IN MAY, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER, UH, EVERY MONTH CHECKING IN AND THEY KEEP SAYING, OH, WORKING ON SOME UPDATING. AND WE WERE NEVER GIVEN ANY INDICATION. WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE DRAWINGS UNTIL WE GOT THE LETTER FROM YOU GUYS THAT, UM, IT WAS COMING UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION. UM, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE AT OUR ORIGINAL MEETING AND IT, IT IS, UH, A BIG CONCERN FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE LOCATION WE, UH, ARE SYMPATHETIC WITH TRAVIS HEIGHTS. THIS WEST LYNN IS ONE OF OUR ENTRY POINTS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS SITS ACROSS THE STREET FROM A VERY PROMINENT RESIDENCE THAT HAS BEEN RESTORED AND IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. UM, WE LOOK TO YOU TO PLAY A ROLE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, HELPING US WITH UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL PRESERVE THE, THE QUALITY THAT MAKES OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS SIGNIFICANT. OUR CONCERNS FOCUS ON COMPATIBILITY. SPECIFICALLY, WE BELIEVE THE BUILDING APPEARS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. THE SCALE AND MASSING, THE OVERALL VISUAL BULK APPEAR SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER THAN ANY OF THE NEARBY CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC PROPERTIES, MAKING THE BUILDING VISUALLY DOMINANT WITHIN THE STREETSCAPE RELATIONSHIP TO THE SURROUNDING HISTORIC BUILDINGS. THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT APPEAR TO REFLECT ANY ESTABLISHED RHYTHM OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG WEST LYNN, INCLUDING THE PROPORTION SPACING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES AND COMPATIBILITY WITHIN OUR DISTRICT. WHILE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION COULD IDENTIFY DIFFERENTLY, IT SHOULD ALSO REMAIN COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT'S DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS INCLUDING SIZE, SCALE, PROPORTION, AND STREET SCAPE RELATIONS. UH, THE DEMOLITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE THAT WAS ALREADY DEMOLISHED DIMINISHED THE INTEGRITY OF THIS PORTION OF OUR DISTRICT. THE LOSS MAKES IT ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT ANY REPLACEMENT REINFORCE NOT FURTHER ERODE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF OUR DISTRICT. AND FOR THIS REASON, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT, UH, TO FURTHER DISCUSS WITH THE, UM, OWNER. WE DID AN, UH, EXTEND AN INVITATION TO THE MEETING OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE BEFORE THE NEXT HLC MEETING. AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY VISIT WITH YOU GUYS AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. UM, THAT WAS DECLINED. OKAY. WELL, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR SPEAKER? ALRIGHT, AND NEXT, UH, MORE SPEAKERS? YES, WE HAVE ONE MORE IN OPPOSITION SPEAKER, AND THAT IS ALEXANDER OGGI. HELLO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, MY NAME IS ALEXANDER OGGI AND I LIVE AT SIX 10 WESTLAND. WITHIN 500 FEET OF SIX 11 WESTLAND, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING EIGHT DETACHED RESIDENCES MARKETED PUBLICLY AS SNARE WESTLAND ORGANIZED AROUND A CENTRAL SHARED COURTYARD WITH A RESORT STYLE POOL, SPA SAUNA, COLD PLUNGE, ROOFTOP TERRACES, AND PRIVATE ELEVATORS, WHATEVER THE MERITS ARE OF THIS AS A REAL ESTATE PRODUCT. THIS DESIGN DOES NOT MEET THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. THE COMMISSION IS CHARGED WITH APPLYING TO NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND A 2021 CASE AT 1201 INFIELD ROAD, ALSO IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. THIS COMMISSION'S OWN STAFF ANALYSIS MEASURED A PROPOSED NEW BUILDING'S COMPATIBILITY IN PART AGAINST A HISTORIC LANDMARK DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, FINDING THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION SETBACK AND PROPORTIONS NEEDED TO READ AS COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK ACROSS THE STREET. THIS SITE SITS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM SIX 10 WESTLAND, THE SHEEX ROBERTSON HOUSE. ALSO MY HOUSE. THAT IS NOT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE. IT'S INDIVIDUALLY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNATED AS A CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARK IN ITS OWN RIGHT, ONE OF THE MOST PROTECTED PROPERTIES IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT. THAT SAME LOGIC APPLIES HERE WITH EVEN MORE [01:20:01] FORCE. THIS ISN'T SIMPLY A LOT TUCKED AWAY FROM THE DISTRICT'S MOST SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES. IT'S FACING ONE OF THEM DIRECTLY. THE COMMISSION'S AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THESE CHANGES IS NOT A DISCRETIONARY COURTESY. IT'S GROUNDED IN CITY CODE CHAPTER 25 DASH 11. ARTICLE FOUR OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEW. ANY APP, ANY RECOMMENDATION BEFORE BUILDING PERMIT MAY BE RELEASED FOR PROPERTY IN NATIONAL DISTRICT. THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS YOU APPLY ARE BASED EXPLICITLY ON WHAT THE FEDERAL SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION AND THE SPECIFIC CHARACTER THIS DISTRICT WAS LISTED TO. PROTECT IS DOCUMENTED IN OLD WEST AUSTIN'S OWN NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION. THE STANDARD THE COMMISSION IS MEASURING AGAINST ISN'T A MATTER OF TASTE, IT'S THE DISTRICT'S OWN DOCUMENTED STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE. THE COMMISSION IS ACTED ON COMPARABLY INCOMPATIBLE PROPOSALS BEFORE IN THE WESTLINE HISTORIC DISTRICT CASE AT 1007 MAL FRE STREET. THIS COMMISSION POSTPONED A DEMOLITION IN NEW CONSTRUCTION DECISION AFTER A COMMISSIONER FOUND THE INCOMPATIBILITY ON MASSING FENESTRATION ROOF FORM AND MATERIALS SO EXTENSIVE THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS IN HIS OWN WORDS TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE DISTRICT. AND AN EARLIER WESTLINE CASE COMMITTEE FEEDBACK LED AN APPLICANT TO LOWER PROPOSED ROOF PITCH BEFORE PLANS WERE RELEASED. AND IN MULTIPLE 2022 AND 2023 CASES, THIS COMMISSION KEPT HEARINGS OPEN AND REFERRED APPLICANTS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AFTER NEIGHBORS RAISED COMPATIBILITY CONCERNS EXACTLY THE OUTCOME I'M REQUESTING TONIGHT. THE DISTRICT HAS VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LOTS BEYOND THIS ONE. IF A RESORT SCALE COURTYARD STYLE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED HERE, IT BECOMES THE TEMPLATE OTHER APPLICANTS WILL POINT TO, NOT CON NOT THE CONTRIBUTING HOUSES THIS DISTRICT WAS LISTED TO PROTECT. BUT THIS PROJECT, EVERY SUBSEQUENT APPLICANT WILL CITE ARI WESTLAND AS THE PRECEDENT FOR SCALE AND DENSITY IN OLD WEST AUSTIN. PIECEMEAL APPROVAL OF INCOMPATIBLE PROJECTS IS HOW A HISTORIC DISTRICT ERODES NOT THROUGH ONE BAD DECISION, BUT THROUGH EACH ONE CITING THE LAST. I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THE SAME TOOL USED BEFORE POSTPONE AND REFER THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION COMMITTEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTION OF THE SPEAKER? APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP? NO OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER HARRIS SECOND BY, UM, COMMISSIONER ACTON. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. I SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR DESIRE ON THIS ITEM? I, I WILL MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND POSTPONE TO OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? SECOND COMMISSIONER LAROCHE SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER COOK? YEAH, I JUST, I DON'T THINK WE'VE, I DON'T RECALL HAVING ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST. I SEE A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN MASSING, IN FENESTRATION, UM, JUST STREET FACING AT THE VERY LEAST. UH, I CAN SEE THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S A KIND OF A MIGRATION OF HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT FROM NINTH STREET, UH, BY SOME ADJACENT STREETS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM OR A DISCUSSION ON THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY THERE IS. IT'S PARTICULARLY MY CONCERN IS LOOKING AT THOSE ELEVATIONS ON WESTLAND AND THINKING, IS THIS COMPATIBLE WITH THE RES, WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT? AND ANDREWS CLEARLY NO ON EVERY LEVEL. SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN DISCUSSION. UH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET ANYWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT TO GET WITH IT, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS. COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I, UH, I, I THINK I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING, AND ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS JUST WALK UP AND DOWN WEST LYNN. AND AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH, YES, THERE IS DENSITY, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE DENSER BUILDINGS HAS SOME SORT OF STAIR STEPPED FACADE. WE DON'T HAVE A THREE STORY FLAT WALL FACING WEST LYNN AND ALL OF THEM ARE STEPPED BACK. THIS IS UP COURTS TOWARDS THE PROPERTY LINE. I DON'T BELIEVE IN ANY WAY THAT COULD BE SAID IS COMPATIBLE TO A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU START COMPARING IT TO THE HOUSES AND THE, THE, THE LANDMARKED HOUSES AS YOU GO NORTH ON WEST LYNN, AND THEN GO INTO THE REST OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO I WON'T NECESSARILY SAY YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD BECAUSE AS YOU GO DEEPER INTO THE SITE AND AS THEY HANDLE THE LEVEL CHANGE OF THE SITE, I THINK ALL OF THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE MAY BE APPROPRIATE. BUT I THINK THAT IF THIS DESIGN TEAM [01:25:01] WERE TO PROVE TO US THAT THIS BELONGS ON WEST LYNN, THEY WOULD SHOW IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THESE OTHER STRUCTURES. MY GUESS IS AS SOON AS THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE OWNER DOES THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS, THEY'LL REALIZE JUST HOW OUT OF SCALE AND INAPPROPRIATE THIS CURRENT WESTLAND FACADES ARE. NOW, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE EXACTLY HOW OUTTA SCALE THEY ARE BECAUSE I, I HAVE A LINE DRAWING WITH A LITTLE, UH, INDICATION THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE, BUT THAT'S NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING SUFFICIENT TO SHOW A CONCEPT THAT WOULD WARRANT OUR APPROVING IT AS APPROPRIATE. SO I'M NOT ONLY HOPING THAT THEY GO TO THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT I'M HOPING THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS ENGAGE MORE, BUT ALSO USE SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO PROVE TO YOURSELF BEFORE YOU TRY TO PROVE TO US THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION. UH, WHAT I'M SEEING IS INADEQUATE, BUT I'LL JUST PUT THAT DOWN BEFORE WE HAVE A VOTE AND PERHAPS, UH, INDICATE THE WORK THAT MIGHT BE DONE. UH, ASSUMING THE VOTE IS PREVAILED AND WILL HAVE A POSTPONEMENT. 'CAUSE EVERY NOW AND THEN I GET TO SAY THAT . OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A VOTE FOR POSTPONEMENT AND A REVIEWED, UH, REFERRAL TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. ANYBODY? UH, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. OKAY. ANYBODY OPPOSED? AND WE HAVE ONE OPPOSED COMMISSIONER TAN NUCCI. OKAY. UH, BUT THE MOTION DOES PASS. ALRIGHT. AND COMMISSIONER KENNEDY, GUCCI, YOU DID NOT WANNA SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR OPPOSITION, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE A COMMENT IF YOU WOULD LIKE. UH, YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT, I GUESS GOOGLE MAPS HERE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE 6 0 9 IS KIND OF SIMILAR IN STRUCTURE AND DESIGN TO, UH, WHAT SIX 11 IS PROPOSING. IT'S LOOKS LIKE MULTI-FAMILY, SEPARATE UNITS, UM, LOOKS TO BE THREE STORIES EVEN. UM, NOW THE BUILDINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ON THE SIDEWALK AND EVERYTHING. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT AS SIMILAR ENOUGH WHERE I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT AT THIS POINT, SO, UNDERSTOOD. I WAS LOOKING FOR SHEDS AND STEP BACKS, BUT, OH, YEAH. WHICH IS, BUT OTHERWISE, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A BRILLIANT BUILDING THERE, BUT I, I CAN SEE THERE, THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS I WOULD LIKE TO, TO BE NOTED AT LEAST. DEFINITELY. BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR ILLUMINATING WHY YOU WOULD VIEW YOUR VOTE. APPRECIATE IT. YEP. ALRIGHT. UH, BUT THE MOTION DOES PASS AND WE WILL NOW GO TO THE NEXT, UH, ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER [19. Approve recommendation to Council related to the proposed changes to Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act, sponsored by Vice Chair Evans and Chair Heimsath. ] 19. UH, THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL RELATED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT, UH, ARE BEING, UM, DISCUSSED FOR THE SECTION 1 0 8 OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT. AND THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, AND JUST TO GO BACK, UH, TO, THERE WAS A QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE PROCESS ON ITEM 12. UM, SO AT THIS STAGE, IT IS BENEFICIAL FOR THE APPLICANTS TO COME TO THE HLC EARLY, UH, BEFORE THEY SUBMIT FOR PERMITTING AND WHILE THEY'RE IN THE SITE PLAN PHASE. UM, BECAUSE IT CAN INFORM THE DESIGN, UM, AND HOPEFULLY WILL AT A RC, UM, IT WILL BE REFERRED BACK TO US AT THE PERMITTING PHASE. UM, SO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE WILL SEE, UH, WHEN THE PLAN REVIEW IS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT ONCE THE SITE PLAN HAS PASSED AND THEY'RE AT THE PLAN REVIEW PHASE. UM, AT THAT STAGE, IF THE DESIGN DEVIATES SIGNIFICANTLY, UM, FROM WHAT THE HLC HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED OR RELEASED, UH, THEN THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE HLC. BUT AS FAR AS THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, AS YOU SAY IT WAS, AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE ADVISOR ADVISABLE, BUT THE ACTUAL APPLICATION FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT WOULD TRIGGER THE, THE REVIEW FOR OUR FINAL REVIEW OR OUR FINAL APPROVAL. THAT'S, UM, BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS IN A NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, THEY'RE ABLE TO SUBMIT THE HISTORIC REVIEW APPLICATION, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO, UH, COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS STAGE RATHER THAN WHEN THEY COME FOR PERMIT. UM, AND THAT'S GENERALLY ADVISABLE THAT THEY'RE HERE EARLY RATHER THAN AFTER THEY'VE COMPLETED THE SITE PLAN AND COMPLETED THE DESIGN. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. AND OUR, OUR PURVIEW IN A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS A REVIEW. SO THAT, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. GETTING IT IN EARLY IS, IS VALUABLE, BUT, OKAY. COMMISSIONER LAROCHE OBVIOUSLY HAS SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT ON SUCH. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. NO, I, I, I THINK CHAIR, YOU, YOU MAY HAVE MISSPOKE A COUPLE TIMES. YOU REFERRED TO, TO SECTION 1 0 8. IT'S ACTUALLY SECTION 1 0 6. OH, I, I'M TERRIBLY SORRY. YES. 1 0 6 I, AND IT'S LOOKING AT ME RIGHT THERE IN PLAIN TEXT. [01:30:01] I JUST, THE WRONG, THE WRONG WORD CAME OUT. THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 19. UM, SECTION 1 0 6. UM, SO WE HAVE A DRAFT MEMORANDUM FOR Y'ALL'S REVIEW. UM, AND I WILL READ AN EXCERPT HERE. I WON'T READ THE ENTIRE, UH, MEMO. I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE READ IT. I'M ALSO SURE THAT YOU'VE HEARD OR SEEN COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO SECTION 1 0 6 BY THE ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UH, THIS IS A VERY CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ON THE RECORD. UM, THE FEDERAL ADVISORY COUNCIL ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION ADVISES THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS ON MATTERS RELATING TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE ADVISORY COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO SECTION 1 0 6 OF THE 1966 NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT, OR NHPA IF ADOPTED, THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY WEAKEN THE LEGAL PROTECTION SECTION 1 0 6 PROVIDES FOR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PLACES NATIONWIDE. NOT ONLY WOULD THESE, WOULD, THESE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE CONSEQUENCES TO FEDERAL BUILDINGS AND TRIBAL PROPERTIES. THE SECTION 1 0 6 CHANGES WOULD HAVE DIRECT CONSEQUENCES HERE IN AUSTIN, AS IS THE SECTION 1 0 6 PROCESS HAS ENABLED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AND LOCAL ADVOCATES TO WEIGH IN ON MAJOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITH FEDERAL FUNDING LIKE PROJECT CONNECT, UH, AND THE EXPANSION OF BOTH I 35 AND MOPAC WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT TO NOTIFY AND CONSULT LOCAL INTERESTED PARTIES AS IS PROPOSED. AUSTIN'S PRESERVATION COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE NO FORMAL ROLE IN THE FEDERAL REVIEW PROCESS WHEN FEDERALLY FUNDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS LIKE THESE THREATEN THE CITY'S HISTORIC FABRICS, PARTNERSHIPS AMONG THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. UM, OUR PARTNERS AND STATE AGENCIES AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ADVOCATES HAVE PRODUCED NEW INFORMATION ABOUT POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT PLACES, THOUGHTFUL ALTERNATIVES TO PROJECTS, UM, THAT WOULD HARM LOCAL HERITAGE AND MEANINGFUL MITIGATION STRATEGIES. WHEN HARM CANNOT BE AVOIDED WITHOUT A ROBUST SECTION 1 0 6 PROCESS, FEDERAL AGENCIES WOULD HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO CONSIDER STAKEHOLDER OR COMMUNITY INPUT OR TO AVOID, MINIMIZE, OR MITIGATE HARM TO IMPORTANT PLACES. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, AND HOPEFULLY THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OPPOSED THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT, SECTION 1 0 6 PROCESS AND ENCOURAGE AUSTIN RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD ONCE IT OPENS. UH, SO FORMAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WILL BE REQUESTED BY THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AFTER A NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING IS PUBLISHED IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER, UM, THAT IS FORTHCOMING. AND, UM, OUR STAFF IS GOING TO MONITOR THE FEDERAL REGISTER. UM, WHEN THE COMMENT PERIOD OPENS, WE WILL SUBMIT OUR COMMENTS. WE ENCOURAGE, UM, THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY TO DO THE SAME. AND WE THANK YOU FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THIS DRAFT WITH, UH, CONSULTATION, UH, AND ALSO ALERTING NOT ALL OF THE, NOT ONLY THE COMMISSION, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC, THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT THIS ACTION WOULD HAVE EFFECTIVELY UNDOING ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THE NATIONAL PRESERVATION ACT. UM, I, I SHUDDER TO THINK PART OF THE REASON THE ACT WAS PASSED IS BECAUSE A MAJOR MONUMENT IN NEW YORK CITY, THE PENN STATION WAS UNILATERALLY TORN DOWN, NO CONSULTATION. IT WAS, UH, TRAVESTY. AND THE PUBLIC RECOGNIZED THAT THE ACT WAS PASSED SPECIFICALLY. SO THAT THAT TYPE OF REVIEW, THAT TYPE OF CONSULTATION, THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY INPUT WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THESE SIGNIFICANT DECISIONS. WHAT'S IN ESSENCE, WE ROLLING BACK THE CLOCK TO 1960S AND ALLOWING THAT, THAT PENN STATION WOULD BE JUST AS VULNERABLE IF THIS PASSES AS IT WAS PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE ACT. SO I, I REALLY, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALERTING US AND MENTIONING, AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE JURISDICTION IS AT RISK. EVERY OLDER BUILDING HAS POTENTIALLY AT RISK BECAUSE THE EXPERTISE AND THE CONSULTATION OF THOSE WHO CARE THE MOST IS ESSENTIALLY THROWN AWAY. SO I, I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, ITEM TO ALERT THE PUBLIC. UH, COMMISSIONERS. ANYBODY ELSE? I KNOW A NUMBER OF YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR, OR PERSPECTIVES FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT I MENTIONED. IT'LL ALSO AFFECT SOME OF, SOME OF YOUR, YOUR ACTIVITIES AS PROFESSIONALS AS WELL. AND CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT IF ANY, UH, PROPOSED ADDITIONS OR CHANGES ARE MADE, UH, IF THEY WOULD EMAIL, UM, PRESERVATION@AUSTINTEXAS.GOV AND CC ME SO THAT WE [01:35:01] CAN INTEGRATE INTO THE FINAL DRAFT. UM, OKAY. BUT WE, WE CAN VOTE ON THE DRAFT AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US. UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND YOU MAY ALSO READ ANY PROPOSED CHANGES INTO THE RECORD AND WE CAN ADD THEM THAT WAY. THANK YOU. CHANGES. ANYBODY HAVE CHANGES? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE DOCUMENT IS SUBMITTED. OH, COMMISSIONER LA ROCHE. YOU A SECOND. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? CERTAINLY. UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE HAD INTERACTIONS WITH 1 0 6 BEFORE IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CAPACITIES AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF, UM, HISTORIC RESERVATION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S A TOOL FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND FOR CITIZENS AND TO HAVE IT DISPATCHED LIKE THIS IS UNFORTUNATE. AND SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN SEND A MESSAGE TO COUNCIL AND BEYOND THAT, UM, THIS WAS AN ERROR COMMISSIONER COOK, I'D LIKE TO NOTE AS, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS CONTEMPLATING PAINTING AN ENORMOUS GRANITE BUILDING WITH WHITE PAINT, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THE IMPORTANCE OF LOCAL CONSULTATION AND THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE THE HOLDERS OF THE ACT. . OKAY. ANY OTHER PERSPECTIVES ON THIS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND I DO SEE ALL HANDS RAISED, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE CAN NOW MOVE TO THE COMMITTEE [20. Update from the Architectural Review Committee regarding the June 10, 2026 and July 8, 2026 meetings.] UPDATES, UH, ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE. UH, CAN YOU COME BACK TO ME? OKAY. UH, WE'LL GO TO THE OPERATIONS [21. Update from the Operations Committee regarding the July 15, 2026 meeting. Members: Commissioners Rice, Acton, and Harris. ] COMMITTEE NOW. COMMISSIONER, UH, RICE ACTON AND HARRIS. UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON SIGN STANDARDS A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF POSTPONING BECAUSE OF SOME, UH, LOGISTICS. UM, AND THEN WE ARE WORKING ON KIND OF A MASTER LIST OF THINGS TO WORK THROUGH. UM, BOTH KIND OF LOGISTICAL COMING FROM STAFF AND THEN THINGS THAT WE EITHER GET FROM YOU GUYS OR OURSELVES TO PUT ON TO KIND OF WORK TO WORK THROUGH. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, COMMISSIONER COOK? YES. UH, YOU SAW A NUMBER OF THE CASES THAT WE REVIEWED BEFORE. I WAS GONNA NOTICE NOTE. WE ALSO SAW SOME WORK AT THE EVERGREEN CEMETERY, UH, PERIMETER, WHICH IS LONG OVERDUE. UH, THAT'S BEING VERY WELL DONE. WE ALSO SAW A NEW CONSTRUCTION ON RAINBOW BEND, UH, THE DEMOLITION THAT WE APPROVED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. THAT'S DONE VERY SENSITIVELY. AND THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, COMMISSIONER [22. Update from Commissioner Taniguchi regarding the June 17, 2026 Downtown Commission meeting.] UCCI, UH, YOUR, OUR LIAISON TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION? YEAH. UM, SO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION DID NOT MEET IN JULY. UM, THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO TALK ABOUT, I GUESS. UM, THERE WAS NO SPEAKERS OR ANYTHING FOR THE AGENDA, SO, UM, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MEETING HERE IN TWO WEEKS. UM, I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE LAST, UH, HISTORICALLY LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING, SO I WASN'T ABLE TO UPDATE YOU ON JUNE. UM, IN JUNE. THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY SUPER RELEVANT TO WHAT WE DISCUSS HERE. UM, A PD CAME AND GAVE US SOME CRIME STATISTICS FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE THAT YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD BE ELEVATED CRIME, THERE IS KIND OF RAINY STREET, UH, EAST SIXTH STREET, UM, I GUESS THE AREA OVER BY THE AUSTIN HISTORIC, UH, THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ELEVATED CRIME THERE. UM, VISIT AUSTIN GAVE US A PRESENTATION, UM, AND THAT'S, I GUESS THEY'RE FUNDED BY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. UM, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, TO ME SEEMED LIKE A WAY TO MARKET, I GUESS AUSTIN TOURISM AND EVERYTHING, UM, THROUGH, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES THAT ARE COLLECT, COLLECTED BY ALL THE HOTELS. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GIVE A PORTION OF THAT TO VISIT AUSTIN TO GO ESSENTIALLY MARKET THE CITY. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, I GUESS DOWNTOWN REPORT, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE CAME AND SPOKE TO US AS WELL AND UM, JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IN THE AREA DOWN HERE. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, NOTHING REALLY PERTAINING TO, UM, PRESERVATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO. WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATE. COMMISSIONER HARRIS. YES. QUESTION IF I MAY, UM, DID, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER BEING TORN DOWN AND OBVIOUSLY CONVENTIONS HAVE HAD TO MOVE [01:40:01] TO OTHER CITIES OR SCALE DOWN OR YEAH. DID THEY MENTION HOW IT WAS AFFECTING HOT COLLECTIONS? WELL, HOT COLLECTIONS, UM, YEAH, SO IT'S KIND OF, THE DATA IS A LITTLE, UH, I GUESS HARD TO PARSE FOR THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY STARTED COLLECTING, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES ALSO FROM AIRBNBS AT THE SAME TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE WAS NOT LIKE ANY KIND OF ADJUSTMENT DOWN IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTIONS OR ANYTHING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID COULD BE BECAUSE OF THE AIRBNB BUMP. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD AFFECT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR GRANTS. DEFINITELY. IS IT, IS THE HOT FUNDS DWINDLE? YEAH. BUT SO I GUESS YEAR OVER YEAR RIGHT, COLLECTIONS HAVE INCREASED, SO YEAH, WE NOT, NOT A, NOT A CONSTRICTION THAT'S ON THE HORIZON THAT WE HAVE TO BE WORRYING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. NO. TERRIFIC. ALRIGHT. UH, WE ALSO HAVE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A MEETING, BUT UH, THAT'S GONNA BE SCHEDULED, UH, COMING UP SOON. RIGHT NOW WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR THE 21ST OF AUGUST, BUT I WILL BE AVAILABLE, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO RESCHEDULE FOR SEPTEMBER. ALRIGHT, FANTASTIC. WE'LL HEAR AN UPDATE THEN. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, GONE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE AGENDA. I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER HARRIS, COMMISSIONER PLEASANT WRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND I SEE IT. HE'S UNANIMOUS AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.