* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. I AM PAIGE ELLI. I AM THE CHAIR OF THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE, AND [CALL TO ORDER] WE ARE GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026. THE TIME IS 1:04 PM AND WE ARE HERE AT AUSTIN CITY HALL, AND I AM JOINED BY VICE CHAIR CADRY MAYOR PRO TELA, AND COUNCIL MEMBER LANE FOR THIS COMMITTEE MEETING TODAY. [Public Communication: General] LET'S MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY ONE SPEAKER. THERE WAS, WHOA, THAT'S LOUD. UM, THERE WAS ONE SPEAKER FOR VIRTUAL, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE. AND THERE'S A SCOTT JOHNSON THAT JUST CAME UP TO ME AND WANTS TO SPEAK IF THE CHAIR WOULD ALLOW. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GIVE SCOTT JOHNSON THREE MINUTES. WE'LL SEE IF THE OTHER CALLER IS ABLE TO CALL IN BY THE TIME HE'S FINISHED. MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION PASSED BY, UH, CHAIR ELLIS EARLIER THIS YEAR. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER MY TESTIMONY. I HAD CONTACTED ROBIN HENDERSON, UH, ON THIS ISSUE TO HAVE HER GIVE INFORMATION TO THE TRAINING ACADEMY FOR A PDI DON'T KNOW YET IF THAT HAS WORTH WORKED OUT WHERE THEY'RE SHARING INFORMATION PROACTIVELY. NOW, WHAT I DO KNOW IS EARLIER THIS YEAR, I, I MADE CONTACT WITH THE CITY OF ROLLINGWOOD. THEY HAVE A POSTCARD PROGRAM THAT'S NOT LIMITED SOLELY TO EMOTO'S, BUT THE TITLE OF IT, SORRY, I COULDN'T GET THE INFORMATION HERE TO THE STAFF IN, IN TIME. IT'S CALLED KNOW BEFORE YOU GO. AND WHAT IT SAYS ON THE FRONT IS GOLF CARTS, E-BIKES, POCKET BIKES, DIRT BIKES, AND MINI MOTORBIKES. AND ON THE SECOND PAGE, THEY'VE MAILED THIS TO ALL OF THEIR ROUGHLY 1300. WELL, ALL OF THE HOMES THAT MAKE UP THEIR APPROXIMATELY, UH, 1000 OR SO RESIDENTS. AND ON THIS SHEET HERE, I CAN PASS IT UP TO THE DEAS AND MAYBE IT, IT WILL GET THERE IN TIME. IT TALKS ABOUT, IN THE FIRST PART ABOUT POCKET BIKES, MINI MOTORBIKES AND DIRT BIKES ARE NOT ALLOWED ON ANY PUBLIC STREET PATH OR WALKWAY. E-BIKES, HOWEVER, ARE ALLOWED ON PUBLIC STREETS. AND THEN IT GETS INTO ELECTRIC BIKES, AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT CLASS ONE AND TWO E-BIKES AND ON AND ON. SO IT GIVES THE RESIDENTS THERE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW ON THINGS THAT ARE TWO WHEEL OR IF IT'S A GOLF CART FOUR WHEEL. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY. WHEN I, I SPOKE WITH, UH, A PD STAFF HERE BEFORE, THEY WEREN'T SURE THAT ANYONE HAS MADE CONTACT WITH CITY ROLLING ONE, BUT IT WOULD BE A DEFINITELY A GOOD IDEA TOO. I KNOW THEY'VE MADE CONTACT WITH ROUND ROCK, ROUND ROCK'S, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AS WELL. I DO HAVE A SIT DOWN VESPA TYPE SCOOTER THAT I OFTEN RIDE TO CITY HALL AND PARK OUT ON THE STREET. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS ITS CHALLENGES, BOTH FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW I'M RIDING IT, NOT BEING, UH, ABLE TO ALWAYS TURN AND, AND GET OUTTA PEOPLE'S WAY WHO ARE CROSSING THE STREET, MID-BLOCK, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. UH, FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE VISION ZERO, UH, TASK FORCE AND STILL CONNECTED WITH THAT EFFORT REGARDING THIS ISSUE AND DISTRACTED DRIVING. I HOPE WHEN THE INFORMATION COMES TO GIVE YOU THE BASIS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER ORDINANCES, YOU TRY TO MOVE MORE ASSERTIVELY THAN WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE DOCKLESS SCOOTERS AND OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE SOMETIMES ARE DYING ON WITH THROUGH CRASHES AND BEING INJURED FATALLY OR JUST BEING INJURED. THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CATCH PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG TEENAGERS, YOUNG TEENAGERS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PARENTS KNOW HOW SERIOUS THIS IS AND MAKE THEM HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IF, IF NEED BE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. HAS OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKER SIGNED IN YET? NO, MA'AM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THEN I WILL SAY [1. Approve the minutes for the Mobility Committee Meeting of May 14, 2026.] WE SHOULD GET MOVING TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY 14TH, 2026 MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM THE VICE CHAIR? CADRY, UH, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LANE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES? AYE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S UNANIMOUS FOR THOSE OF US IN ATTENDANCE. ITEM NUMBER TWO [2. Briefing on updates to City Code, administrative rules, police training and general orders, and public awareness campaign regarding electric mini motorcycles, electric dirt bikes, also known as e-motos, and the status of the exploration of establishing a public recreation area designated for e-motos. [Michael Chancellor, Assistant Chief - Austin Police]] IS BRIEFING ON UPDATES TO THE CITY CODE, ADMINISTRATIVE RULES, POLICE TRAINING AND GENERAL ORDERS AND PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN REGARDING ELECTRIC MINI MOTORCYCLES, ELECTRIC DIRT BIKES, ALSO KNOWN AS EMOTO'S, AND THE STATUS OF THE EXPLORATION OF ESTABLISHING A PUBLIC RECREATION AREA DESIGNATED FOR EMOS. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO ASSISTANT CHIEF MIKE CHANCELLOR, [00:05:03] TRY AND SQUEEZE IN THIS CHAIR WITH THIS BELT ON. UH, THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS. UH, I KNOW WE JUST DID THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH TO HELP. AND SO WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PRESENTATION AND I SAY WE, AND I MEAN LIEUTENANT MORRIS THAT'S SITTING HERE WITH ME, UM, WHO IS MORE OF AN EXPERT THAN I AM. UM, IN THE PRESENTATION, I ACTUALLY PUT IN SOME LITTLE BIT OF QUIZ MATERIAL FOR Y'ALL ON THE DIFFERENT DEVICES. SO, UH, YOU CAN FOREGO THAT IF YOU WANT. UM, BUT THERE IS INFORMATION IN THERE TO HELP US IDENTIFY THE DEVICES AND TO SEE HOW DIFFICULT IT CAN BE. SO, UH, AS STATED IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE EARLIER, WE'RE TAKING AN EDUCATIONAL APPROACH TO THE, UH, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT AND, UH, HOW WE'RE HANDLING THESE EMOTO'S EBI DEVICES. AND SO IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THEN THE FOLLOWING. SO WE'LL START BY KIND OF DEFINING THE DIFFERENT VEHICLES HERE SO THAT EVERYONE HAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, ELECTRIC BICYCLE, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF 'EM, BUT AN ELECTRIC BICYCLE IS, IS A BIKE THAT HAS FULLY OPERABLE PEDALS AND ELECTRIC MOTOR THAT'S LESS THAN 750 WATTS, AND IT HAS A TOP ASSISTED SPEED OF 28 MILES PER HOUR. AND SO ELECTRIC BIKES THAT MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE PRETTY MUCH TREATED LIKE, UH, ANY OTHER BICYCLE UNLESS IT'S A CLASS THREE. NEXT SLIDE. AND SO AS YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CLASS ONE AND CLASS TWO, THEY BOTH HAVE A TOP SPEED OF 20. UM, BUT THE, UH, CLASS ONE ASSIST ONLY WHEN THE OPERATOR PEDALS THE CLASS TWO ASSIST WITHOUT PEDALING. AND THE CLASS THREE WILL ASSIST WITHOUT PEDDLING, BUT IT GOES UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR. AND SO AN OPERATOR OF A CLASS THREE BICYCLE HAS TO BE AT LEAST 15 YEARS OF OLD AGE. WE'LL GO OVER SOME DIFFERENT MOTOR VEHICLES SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SURE. A MOTORCYCLE. EVERYONE PRETTY MUCH KNOWS WHAT A MOTORCYCLE IS, BUT IT HAS THE SADDLE THAT YOU CAN SIT ON. UH, DOESN'T HAVE MORE THAN THREE WHEELS ON THE GROUND. UM, BUT THIS DEVICE RIGHT HERE IS ALSO A MOTORCYCLE. AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO THE NUANCE AND THE DIFFERENT DETAILS IS THIS BIKE RIGHT HERE HAS A MOTOR OF 20 KILOWATTS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER A 750 WATT LIMIT THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR A NORMAL BIKE OR ELECTRIC BICYCLE. AND SO THIS VEHICLE RIGHT HERE TO BE DRIVEN ON A PUBLIC STREET NEEDS TO BE, UM, REGISTERED AND HAVE ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF A NORMAL MOTOR VEHICLE, A MOPED, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT. UH, IT HAS A TOP SPEED OF 30 MILES PER HOUR. YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT A MOPED THAT'S A, A, UH, COMBUSTIBLE ENGINE VERSUS AN ELECTRIC TYPE ENGINE. UM, THESE CAN'T BE DRIVEN IN CERTAIN AREAS. YOU HAVE A SPEED OF, UH, A MAX SPEED OF WHERE THEY CAN GO, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ON CLOSED ACCESS HIGHWAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN WE HAVE MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER, WHICH WE SEE A LOT OF DOWNTOWN, THE MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER. AND IT'S A SELF-PROPELLED DEVICE THAT HAS TWO WHEELS ON THE GROUND, AN ELECTRIC MOTOR, 40 Q, BIG CENTIMETERS OR LESS, A DECK TO STAND ON, AND THE ABILITY TO BE PROPELLED BY HUMAN POWER ALONE. AND THEN WE HAVE LIME SCOOTERS, UH, AND THEY FIT INTO THE MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER CATEGORY. WE SEE A TON OF THESE DOWNTOWN. UH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT BOTH OF THESE THAT YOU'RE SEEING WOULD FALL INTO THAT AND FALL INTO THE LAWS THAT APPLY TO THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTERS. AND THEN WE HAVE THE GLIDER, WHICH IS A UNIQUE, UM, VEHICLE IN ITSELF. UM, THE GLIDER DOESN'T FIT NEATLY INTO ANY TEXAS TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, CATEGORY BECAUSE IT HAS A DECK FOR STANDING, BUT IT ALSO HAS A SADDLE. AND SO FOR REGULATORY PURPOSES, IT MOST CLOSELY FITS WITH THE MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER. AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS TREATING THE LIME GLI OR LIME GLIDERS. AND THEN WE HAVE POCKET BIKES, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAIN CONCERN COMES IN BECAUSE WE SEE THESE ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH KIDS ZIPPING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE GOING A LOT FASTER, UM, THAN, UH, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A ELECTRIC BICYCLE. AND DON'T MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THESE POCKET BIKES AND THESE MINI MOTORCYCLES ARE NOT STREET LEGAL BECAUSE THEY WON'T FIT THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS OR THE REQUIREMENTS TO, UH, FOR ENTRANCE AND OTHER THINGS ON, UH, CITY STREET OR A PUBLIC HIGHWAY. AND SO YOU CAN'T OPERATE THEM ON A SIDEWALK EITHER, UM, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE ON A SIDEWALK. AND SO, UM, WHERE YOU CAN OPERATE THESE BIKES IS, UH, ON A PUBLIC, I MEAN, ON PRIVATE LAND. OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEARCH ON THE INTERNET FOR OHV AREAS IN THE AREA, AND [00:10:01] IT'LL TELL YOU WHERE THOSE ARE. AND THEN OHV STANDS FOR OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLES, AND YOU'LL SEE LITTLE PLACES THAT YOU CAN GO TO, UM, TEXAS, UH, PARKS AND WILDLIFE HAS PUT TOGETHER SOME OF THEIR PARKS THAT HAVE SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT YOU CAN RIDE IN, AND YOU CAN GET A PERMIT FOR THOSE DIFFERENT AREAS TO GO RIDE IN. AND SO PRIVATE SPACE OR ONE OF THESE PLACES THAT ALLOWS IT WOULD BE THE ONLY PLACES THAT YOU COULD RIDE ONE OF THESE POCKET BIKES AND THEN EMOTO'S. AND THAT'S JUST THE UMBRELLA TERM FOR ALL OF THESE OTHER DEVICES THAT DON'T FIT INTO, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT SOME OF THESE DEVICES. Y'ALL CAN COMPLETELY IGNORE ME IF YOU WANT. UH, YOU CAN TAKE A GUESS IF YOU WANT. I'LL JUST TAKE A BRIEF PAUSE AND THEN, THEN GIVE OUT THE ANSWER. BUT THIS ONE'S PRETTY SIMPLE. TWO WHEELS HAS A SADDLE SELF-PROPELLED GOES MUCH FASTER THAN 30 MILES PER HOUR. SO DO WE BUZZ IN Y? DEFINITELY. SO I'LL BRING THOSE NEXT TIME. BUT, UH, AS Y'ALL ARE WELL AWARE, THIS IS A MOTORCYCLE UP HERE. UM, AND THIS ONE OVER HERE HAS A RIDER SADDLE. UM, BUT IT HAS A TOP SPEED OF, UH, LESS THAN 30 MILES PER HOUR AND A MOTOR LESS THAN FIVE MILES PER HOUR. AND IT'S GOT TWO WHEELS. SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THAT'S A MOPED. AND THESE FIRST TWO ARE FAIRLY EASY TO KIND OF IDENTIFY. UM, WHEN WE GET INTO THE NEXT ONE THOUGH, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THAT, UH, CATEGORY WHERE IT'S LIKE, WELL, HOW DO WE TELL THE DIFFERENCE? SO WE GOT A RIDER SADDLE, WE GOT PEDALS, WE GOT A MOTOR OF LESS THAN 750 WATTS, AND WE'VE GOT A TOP SPEED OF 28 MILES PER HOUR. DOES ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A GUESS WHERE THIS FITS? ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS GONNA BE A E BICYCLE, AND IT FITS INTO THE CLASS THREE BECAUSE CLASS ONE AND TWO WOULD BE LESS THAN 20 MILES PER HOUR. CLASS THREE GETS UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR. THE REASON I HAVE THIS ON HERE IS FOR THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE WE LOOKED AT. IT HAS A RIDER SADDLE, IT'S GOT PEDALS, IT'S GOT A MOTOR OF OVER ONE KILOWATT, AND IT'S GOT A TOP SPEED OF GREATER THAN 30 MILES PER HOUR. BUT I POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE AS YOU CAN LOOK BETWEEN THE TWO BIKES, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR AN OFFICER OR FOR ANYONE ELSE TO LOOK AT THAT BIKE AND JUST BE ABLE TO TELL THIS IS A STREET LEGAL, UH, BICYCLE, OR THIS ONE NEEDS TO BE, UH, REGISTERED OR FIT UNDER ACTUAL MOTOR VEHICLE. SO WE'VE GOT LIME SCOOTERS IN HERE. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER. IT'S GOT THE DECK FOR THE STANDING TOP SPEED OF 20 MILES PER HOUR IN THAT 350 WATT MOTOR. THAT ONE'S A MOTOR ASSISTED SCOOTER. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STATUTES AND ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. AND THIS IS PART OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PUT FORWARD, IS LOOKING AT, DO WE NEED TO BETTER DEFINE LAWS AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT? AND THAT'S WHEN WE LOOKED AT AND SAID, WELL, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT LAWS ALREADY APPLY SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHERE OUR GAPS ARE. AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, THE THE RELEVANT EMOTO UH, STATUTES THAT EXIST IS A MOTORCYCLE LICENSE OR REQUIRED TO OPERATE A MOTORCYCLE ON A PUBLIC ROAD. AND SO IF YOU'RE OPERATING ONE OF THOSE THAT CLASSIFIES AS A MOTORCYCLE, YOU WOULD NEED THAT, UH, MOTORCYCLE LICENSE. YOU DON'T NEED THE MOTORCYCLE LICENSE FOR SOMETHING LIKE A MOPED OR AN ELECTRIC BICYCLE, UH, FOR HELMETS. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. UH, THAT CAN DIFFER, UH, BETWEEN DIFFERENT AREAS FOR DIFFERENT VEHICLES. BUT FOR, UH, THESE DEVICES, IF YOU'RE UNDER 21, UM, YOU NEED TO HAVE, UH, A HELMET NOW FOR A EBI AUSTIN REGULATES THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE, UH, A HELMET, UM, WHEN YOU'RE UNDER 18 YEARS OF OLD. BUT OTHER CITIES DON'T REGULATE THE SAME THING, AND STATE LAW DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT FOR THE EBIS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT DIFFERENTIATION. UH, AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT A PARENT OR GUARDIAN WHO KNOWINGLY ALLOWS A CHILD TO OPERATE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES THAT'S NOT STREET LEGAL, UH, CAN BE CITED FOR ALLOWING THAT, UH, CHILD TO OPERATE ON A PUBLIC VEHICLE. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE, UH, THESE UNREGISTERED EMOTO POCKET BIKES THAT ARE GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, THE, THE JUVENILE COULD BE CITED, BUT THE PARENT COULD ALSO BE CITED FOR ALLOWING THEM TO OPERATE THAT VEHICLE. UH, THE OTHER RELEVANT STATUTES, WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF TALKED ABOUT 'EM, BUT UNREGISTERED VEHICLE NOT HAVING INSURANCE. YOU CAN'T OPERATE A VEHICLE ON THE SIDEWALK. UM, AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT STREET LEGAL, IF IT MEETS THESE REQUIREMENTS AND DOESN'T FIT INTO ONE OF THE CATEGORIES LIKE THE, THE E-BIKE OR THE SCOOTER, THEN YOU CAN'T RIDE IT ON THE SIDEWALK EITHER. SO A P D'S STANCE ON THIS IS THAT WE'RE, UH, DOING AS MUCH EDUCATION AS WE CAN, BUT OUR POLICY TALKS ABOUT TRYING TO STOP THE BEHAVIOR. AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STOPPING THE BEHAVIOR, A WARNING A LOT OF TIMES AND A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION WILL STOP THE BEHAVIOR. IT MAY NOT, IF WE GET, UH, THE SAME CALL ON THE SAME PEOPLE, NOT, [00:15:01] UH, ABIDING BY THESE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AS THEY'VE BEEN EDUCATED ON 'EM, OR IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS THAN WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND TAKE A CITATION. AND THERE IS A, A POTENTIAL THAT A VEHICLE WOULD BE IMPOUNDED UNDER THAT. SO JUST SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS ON THE DEVICES, E-BIKES OR BICYCLES. UM, AND THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE THAT A BICYCLE CAN GO, UH, AND THE EMOS OR MOTOR VEHICLES. AND SO ALL OF THE STATE LAW THAT APPLIES TO THEM APPLIES, UH, IS, IS APPLICABLE THERE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR EDUCATION OUTREACH INTERNALLY, WE'VE PUT OUT TRAINING BULLETIN. WE'RE ABOUT TO RELEASE ANOTHER TRAINING BULLETIN INTERNALLY, UH, TO HELP OFFICERS IDENTIFY THESE VEHICLES. UM, THE FIRST TRAINING BULLETIN WAS SEVERAL PAGES, UH, AND IT, AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DIFFICULTY IS REALLY APPLYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE ON THE STREET WHEN YOU SEE A CERTAIN BIKE? OR WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR, UH, TO APPLY THE LAWS THAT APPLY IN THE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS FOR PUBLIC OUTREACH, WE'VE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER ONE VIDEO THAT WE PUT OUT AND YOU SEE SERGEANT BLAKE THERE, UH, THAT WENT OUT. IT WAS ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, AND IT REALLY JUST KIND OF HELPED TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THE BASICS OF DIFFERENT E DEVICES, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE WATTAGE OR THE MILES PER HOUR THAT WE COULD, UH, THAT QUALIFIED IT TO BE A MOTOR VEHICLE OR E-BIKE. SO WE PUT OUT THAT VIA VIDEO, AND WE'RE WORKING ON A SECOND VIDEO THAT WILL EXPAND ON THE FIRST VIDEO AND HELP FURTHER, UH, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE IS CREATING A WEBPAGE, UM, THAT CAN BE USED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN GO TO TO HELP IDENTIFY THESE DIFFERENT DEVICES. AND SO PARENTS CAN REALLY LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, IF I GET THIS DEVICE, OR MY KID HAS THIS DEVICE, WHAT ARE THE LAWS THAT APPLY? WHERE CAN THEY RIDE THAT VEHICLE? AND AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS AND TRYING TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE AND HOW, HOW, UH, IT'LL APPLY AND, AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS AND THE AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT AREAS, UM, THAT WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES. AND SO SOME OF THOSE AREAS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS POTENTIALLY SELLERS HAVING TO GIVE A DISCLAIMER WHEN THEY SELL A BIKE TO A PARENT SAYING, HEY, UM, WHEN YOU SELL THIS BIKE, YOU HAVE TO LET THE PARENT KNOW THIS IS NOT A STREET LEGAL BIKE. IT CANNOT BE OPERATED ON THE STREET WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED INSURED. ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ALREADY COVERED THE OFF HIGHWAY VEHICLE USAGE, SO WHERE SOMEONE CAN GO TO FIND THAT ONLINE. AND SO THAT WAS THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED TO ADD IN THERE. UH, AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO. THANKS FOR THAT ANSWER, AND THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY. UM, AND YOU DID MENTION EARLIER, WE JUST HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE FOR THE NEWS MEDIA AND REPORTERS AND JOURNALISTS TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF EMOTO SAFETY AND A SPECIAL, UH, THANK YOU TO ELIS ALICIA RACING FOR JOINING US TODAY. I KNOW WE DO A LOT OF WORK HERE IN CITY HALL THAT IS JUST, UM, FULL OF GREAT OPINIONS FROM THE FOLKS THAT WORK WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENTS AND SERVE THE CITY EVERY DAY. BUT IT'S NICE TO SEE, UH, OTHER PARTIES TAKE A GREAT INTEREST IN EMOTO SAFETY AS WELL. SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS TODAY. UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE ENGINES AND THE SPEED THAT THESE VEHICLES GO. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE MORE AROUND LIKE LIGHTS, HORNS, LICENSE PLATES, SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS? I KNOW I'M, I'M STILL ALSO WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND WHAT IS A MOTOR VEHICLE THAT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND. YOU NEED TO HAVE REGISTERED AND HAVE A LICENSE TO DRIVE VERSUS THESE, UM, OTHER TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE A LITTLE HARDER TO TO TELL. YEAH. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER DIFFERENT KIND OF EQUIPMENT VIOLATIONS OR, OR REQUIREMENTS FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE, THE, THE GATEWAY THERE IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SPEED, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ENGINE SIZE. UH, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT OPERABLE PEDALS, UM, TO MAKE IT A MOTOR VEHICLE VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE. AND ONCE THEY QUALIFY TO BE A MOTOR VEHICLE AND THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED, THEY DO HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS, A WORKING HORN, UH, LIGHTS, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT ANY OTHER STANDARD VEHICLE COULD HAVE. SO ONCE IT PASSES THAT THRESHOLD INTO A EMOTO DEVICE, WHICH IS A MOTOR VEHICLE, THEN EVERY OTHER EQUIPMENT, UM, REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WOULD FIT FOR A MOTORCYCLE OR VEHICLE OF THAT NATURE WOULD RE WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT VEHICLE TOO. SO THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT VIOLATIONS, UM, THAT OR REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE VEHICLES. UM, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WOULD BE, UH, APPLICABLE TO THOSE DIFFERENT DEVICES. AND IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD RECENTLY, IT'S AROUND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUY A CAR, YOU'RE GOING TO A DEALERSHIP AND THEY KNOW WHAT IT NEEDS TO HAVE TO BE SOLD, BUT NOT EVERYONE WHO'S BUYING THESE DEVICES IS BUYING THEM FROM A LOCAL DEALERSHIP, IF YOU WILL. RIGHT. UM, HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING THESE BIKES? ARE THEY JUST ORDERING [00:20:01] THEM OFF THE INTERNET AND THEY'RE JUST SHOWING UP AND THEY MAY OR MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE ON THE ROAD? UH, HOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT? YEAH, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO BUY THE DEVICES. YOU COULD BUY ONE ONLINE, YOU CAN FIND A STORE THAT SELLS ONE. AND SO, UM, AND IT'S A GREAT POINT THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL BUYING THEM HERE IN AUSTIN. UM, BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I THINK WE COULD DO ORDINANCE WISE IS CREATE THAT ORDINANCE TO PUT THE DISCLAIMER ON THE BIKES, BUT WHEN THE PARENTS OR THE WHOEVER'S BUYING THAT VEHICLE WOULD UNDERSTAND, LIKE, OH, OKAY, THIS IS NOT OPERABLE FOR A CITY STREET, I WOULD NEED TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS, OR IT WON'T QUALIFY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEET THOSE EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS. AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S A STEP, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S A STEP TO GO TOWARDS STATE LEGISLATOR TO ACQUIRE IT THERE, UH, AND, AND DO MORE IN THAT ASPECT OF IT. BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS GO TAKE SOME, YOU KNOW, 11 YEAR OLD'S CHRISTMAS, PRESENT AWAY FROM 'EM AND SAY, THIS IS NOT STREET LEGAL. YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOUR PARENT BOUGHT IT FOR YOU. UM, AND I'M SURE THE PARENTS WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT WERE LIKE, I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART. AND SO, UH, IT PUTS IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND I THINK IF PARENTS HAD THAT KNOWLEDGE WHEN THEY'RE BUYING THESE CHRISTMAS OR BIRTHDAY GIFTS OR WHATEVER, THAT WOULD HELP THEM MAKE THE DECISIONS, OH, I LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE KID'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO WRITE IT ANYWHERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I THINK THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, BUT IT WON'T SOLVE ALL OF IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE WILL STILL BE PEOPLE THAT CAN BUY THEM ON THE INTERNET AND OTHER PLACES. I'M INTERESTED IN US PURSUING AS A COUNCIL, THE CONVERSATION AROUND JUST MAKING SURE THAT PARENTS BUYING THESE AT LOCAL SHOPS KNOW, HEY, ACCORDING TO EVEN THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, THIS DEVICE ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE REGISTERED AND LICENSED. AND THAT WAY YOU CAN DECIDE, ARE YOU BUYING IT FOR A 15-YEAR-OLD OR ARE YOU BUYING IT FOR AN 8-YEAR-OLD? YEAH. UM, WE'RE SEEING SOME REALLY SMALL KIDS GOING VERY FAST ON THESE BIKES. AND I MEAN, THE, THE MAIN FEEDBACK I'M HEARING IS FEAR, YOU KNOW, THAT WE KNOW KIDS ARE GONNA HAVE FUN, BUT WE'RE JUST SO SCARED SOMETHING TERRIBLE'S GONNA HAPPEN. AND THAT'S MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING. YEAH. AND WE GET THAT SAME FEEDBACK DRIVING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEBODY ZIPS OUT IN FRONT OF YOU ON A TINY BIKE AND IT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WARNING THAT IT'S COMING. YEAH. NOT A LOT OF VISIBILITY EITHER ON THE SMALLER BIKES AND SMALLER KIDS. THEY'RE NOT TALLER THAN THE HOOD OF A CAR. THEY'RE NOT TALLER THAN A TAILGATE. RIGHT. YEAH. UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO OTHER QUESTIONS IF THE D HAS SOME. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER LANE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MORALES, UH, CHAIR. UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO TITLE AND ENSURE EMOS. AND SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE, REALLY THE CLARITY OF THE MEMO THAT WE RECEIVED IN ADVANCE AS WELL AS THIS PRESENTATION. UM, BUT A LOT, I'M WONDERING, IN REAL LIFE, IS IT FEASIBLE TO ACTUALLY REGISTER EMOTO'S TO MAKE THEM STREET LEGAL? NO, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA REQUIRE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT A VEHICLE NEEDS TO. AND SO IF THEY COULD MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, THEORETICALLY IT COULD, BUT THEY DON'T. UM, AND THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IT, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THESE LITTLE BITTY POCKET BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S NO WAY PHYSICALLY FOR THEM TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE STATE HAS ON IT. AND SO I COULD SAY, THEORETICALLY YOU COULD BUILD SOMETHING OUT THAT MAY BE ABLE TO MEET IT, BUT REALISTICALLY IT'S NOT. OKAY. SO, UM, DEFINITELY THOSE POCKET PIKES LOOKING SO TINY AND ALL OF THAT, I, I UNDERSTAND, BUT IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S REALLY NO TYPE OF EMOTO THAT COULD BE USED ON THE ROADWAYS. AND SO THE BEST GUIDANCE THAT WE CAN GIVE TO CONSTITUENTS, UM, WHO ARE LOOKING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POSSIBLE IS THAT DON'T, DON'T DO AN EMOTO TO GET TO AND FROM SCHOOL. 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T RIDE IT ON THE SIDEWALK AND YOU CAN'T RIDE IT ON THE STREET. YEAH. AND SO I THINK THE ADVICE THAT I WOULD GIVE IS IF YOU CAN GO GET IT REGISTERED, YOU KNOW, AND IT MEETS ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE ABLE TO DRIVE THAT THERE, UM, FOR AN EMOTO, BUT FOR THE POCKET BIKES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE LIKE THAT, UH, IT'S A NO, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, I'M ALSO WONDERING ABOUT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE ABOUT RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WHERE IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO USE AN EMOTO AND, AND PARKS IS LOOKING INTO THAT. HAVE WE CONSIDERED VACANT CITY OWNED LAND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE AN INTERIM USE LIKE THIS THAT, SO WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, PARKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE CAN USE THAT. AND THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS, IS TRYING TO IDENTIFY AN AREA FOR PEOPLE, UM, TO GET OUT THERE AND BE ABLE TO, TO USE THE, THE BIKES THAT THEY HAVE AND THE DEVICES THAT THEY HAVE. SO THAT HAS BEEN A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED ANY THAT WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. UM, I, I'LL JUST PUT OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF JUST EXPANDING THAT [00:25:01] UNIVERSE BEYOND PARKS PARCELS, BECAUSE MAYBE SEPARATING THESE USES MIGHT BE THE BEST PATH TOWARDS HARMONY AND, AND ALSO CREATE AN INTERIM USE THAT DOES THINGS LIKE DISPLACE THE USE BY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND THAT SORT OF THING. YEAH. SO ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I, IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN VERY COMPREHENSIVE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? YES, CONTINUE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO CHECK IN ABOUT, UM, BRINGING BIKES, E-BIKES, EMOTO'S, THE RANGE ONTO THE RED LINE. UH, I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO USE E-BIKES LIKE TO AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEM ONTO THE TRAIN. AND I'M JUST WONDERING THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU HAVE COMPARED NOTES WITH CAP METRO, UH, AS THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THIS AREA AS WELL. SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE ACTUALLY DONE THAT, SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT FOR ME TO FOLLOW UP UHHUH AND TALK TO CAPITAL METRO ON THAT. UM, THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS OUTSIDE OF A PD THAT WE'VE TALKED TO WAS A-I-S-D-P-D, UH, ABOUT INCLUDING SOME OF THE EDUCATIONAL VIDEOS THAT WE'VE PUT OUT TO THE PARENTS OF THE STUDENTS, UM, THAT ARE TAKING THESE, THESE EMOS OR DEVICES TO SCHOOLS. SO WE'VE BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO TRY AND SHARE SOME OF THE VI VIDEOS AND INFORMATION. UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND I WILL REACH OUT TO CAPITAL METRO ABOUT THAT. COULD I ALSO FACILITATE YOUR CONTACT WITH RON ROCK, I-S-D-P-D? THEY SERVE ABOUT 95% OF, OF MY DISTRICT, SO I'D LOVE TO ENHANCE THE RELATIONSHIP. YEAH. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY WILLING TO FACILITATE IT. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE PUT OUT SOME GREAT VIDEOS ON E-BIKES AND E DEVICES, UM, AND, AND, UH, CHIEF BANKS DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB THERE, SO THANK YOU. I CAN TELL YOU CAT METRO'S WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I KNOW THAT WE HAD A SPEAKER COME TO ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS AND SHOW PICTURES OF FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE ONES WITH THE BIG BEEFY TIRES, UM, ON THE TRAIN BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT ON THE FRONT OF A BUS OR WHATNOT, UH, THE WAY THAT A SLIMMER BIKE TIRE WOULD. AND SO THEY'RE BRINGING THESE DEVICES STRAIGHT ONTO THE TRAIN. UM, AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE WHOLE FIRST MILE, LAST MILE EFFORT, UM, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WAS CROWDING THE TRAIN AND CREATING OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR FOLKS. AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL COME OF THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I, I KNOW THAT CAT METRO IS WILLING TO HAVE IT. OKAY. UM, I HAVE JUST A COUPLE MORE. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED 15 YEARS OLD FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO USE THESE. CAN YOU TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, AT LEAST WHEN I WAS 16, I WAS, I HAD A PERMIT AT 15 AND THEN WAS ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR AT 16 ON MY OWN. UM, ARE THE RULES THE SAME FOR BIKES? SO THE 15 APPLIES SPECIFICALLY TO A CLASS THREE BICYCLE. ELECTRIC BICYCLE. OKAY. AND SO THAT IS ONLY SPECIFIC TO THAT, UM, CLASS, ELECTRIC BICYCLE. AND THAT CLASS, ELECTRIC BICYCLE MEANS THAT IT CAN GO UP TO 28 MILES PER HOUR, BUT NOT MORE, UM, PEDAL ASSISTED. AND THAT IT HAS, UH, UM, THE, THE OPERABLE PEDALS AND THE ENGINE SIZE, THAT, THAT, UH, IS SMALL ENOUGH THERE. AND SO IT ONLY APPLIES TO THAT ONE. MOST ELECTRIC BIKES DON'T QUITE FIT IN THAT CATEGORY AND ANYONE CAN DRIVE THEM, UH, OR RIDE THEM. UM, BUT TO BE IN THAT THIRD ONE, YOU NEED TO BE 15 OR OLDER TO DO IT. AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THE 15 APPLIES IS JUST TO THAT TYPE OF ELECTRIC BICYCLE. OKAY. WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE IF SOMEONE REALLY WANTS THEIR 15-YEAR-OLD TO BE ABLE TO GET TO SCHOOL, THAT THAT COULD BE A SAFE OPTION THAT THEY'RE EDUCATED AND TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I KNOW MY E-BIKE CAPS OUT AT 20 MILES AN HOUR, SO IT DOESN'T GO BEYOND THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ROAD USE VERSUS SIDEWALK USE IS LIKE, OKAY, THE SIDEWALKS, EVERYONE'S GOING A BIT A BIT SLOWER. UM, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN PEDESTRIANS ARE AROUND, IT'S JUST NOT SAFE TO GO THAT FAST. UM, AND THEN ON THE TOPIC OF E-BIKES, I THINK IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER ENTITIES, I THINK THE PROMOTION OF LETTING FOLKS KNOW THAT THE 20 MILE PER HOUR E-BIKE IS LIKE, HEY, THIS MAY ACTUALLY BE THE THING THAT DOES WHAT YOU'RE HOPING YOUR KID CAN DO. UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY FOLKS RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, REALLY DO BY THEM THINKING THEY'RE ALL THE SAME AND, AND THEY'RE JUST NOT 'CAUSE OF THE SPEED LIMIT AND THE, THE ELECTRICITY THAT RUNS THROUGH THOSE ENGINES. UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD. WELL, THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR THE PRESS CONFERENCE AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN REALLY, REALLY COLLABORATIVE ON TRYING TO UNPACK THIS ISSUE AND HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE. WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. YEAH, THANKS. I BELIEVE OUR CALL IN SPEAKER MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CALL IN. ARE THEY ON? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UH, HAYDEN WALKER. PERFECT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM HAYDEN. HI. SORRY I WAS HAVING TROUBLE UNMUTING . THERE WE GO. WE GOT [00:30:01] YOU NOW. OKAY, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING MY, UM, TESTIMONY, UM, LATE TODAY. WE HAD A COUPLE OF GLITCHES. UM, I'M HAYDEN BLACK WALKER. I AM CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SAFE STREETS AUSTIN. UM, SAFE STREETS AUSTIN. AND, UM, OVER 20 LOCAL COALITION ORGANIZATIONS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO PROMOTE WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING. UM, THIS YEAR IS THE THIRD YEAR THAT AUSTIN HAS COM HAS PARTICIPATED, UM, AND OUR COALITION HAS GROWN EACH YEAR. UM, WE'RE PROUD TO PARTNER WITH CNU CENTRAL TEXAS, ULI, AUSTIN, GET THEIR A TX, WHICH IS A CITY DEPARTMENT, UM, CAP, METRO, MOVABILITY, AURA, ADAPT, AND, AND A BUNCH OF OTHERS. SO, UM, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST AND THAT, UM, AND SHARED YOUR EXPERIENCES ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THAT, SO WE HOPE YOU'LL PARTICIPATE AGAIN THIS YEAR. UM, IT'S FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO OCTOBER 8TH. UM, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, BUT JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, A WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING IS A WEEK, A WEEK LONG CHALLENGE, UM, TO TRY TO GET AROUND WITHOUT DRIVING YOURSELF. YOU CAN WALK, BIKE, TAKE TRANSIT, USE RIDESHARE OR CARPOOL. UM, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CHALLENGE IS TO EXPERIENCE THE CITY IN THE SAME WAY THAT PEOPLE WHO FACE DAILY BARRIERS, ONE IN THREE AMERICANS, UM, DO NOT DRIVE DUE TO AGE, ABILITY, CHOICE OR SOMETIMES COST. UM, SO WE HOPE WE YOU'LL PARTICIPATE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND, UM, HIGHLIGHT THE CHALLENGES YOU FACE AND THE THINGS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, ON SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, WE HAVE TWO HASHTAGS WITH WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING AND HASHTAG WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING A TX. AND I CAN SEND THOSE OUT TO Y'ALL. UM, IT'S SUPER EASY TO SIGN UP TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE. IT'S WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING.ORG. YOU JUST CLICK ON JOIN US AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A BOX TO CHECK FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING Y'ALL ARE DOING. AS THIS MOVEMENT GROWS ACROSS AUSTIN AND THE REGION, THE STATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ALL 50 STATES NOW PARTICIPATE. UM, I THINK WE'RE BUILDING EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING, AND I HELP THINK THAT HELPS US BUILD A MORE INCLUSIVE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WITH MORE CHOICES. SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. IT'S GREAT. THANKS FOR JOINING US, HAYDEN. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THAT WILL TAKE US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. Briefing on Curb Management Plan, which helps guide operational decision making on the City's use of curb spaces in the right of way, including parking and loading zones, bike and transit lanes. [Lewis Leff, Assistant Director of Transportation Operations; Joseph Al-Hajeri, Parking Enterprise Division Manager - Austin Transportation and Public Works]] BRIEFING ON CURB MANAGEMENT PLAN. GOOD AFTERNOON, VICE CHAIR ELLIS, UH, CHAIR ELLIS VICE CHAIR CADRE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. I'M LEWIS LEFF. I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS. WE'VE GOT JOSEPH AJARI, WHO'S OUR PARKING ENTERPRISE MANAGER HERE WITH ME TODAY. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CURB MANAGEMENT PLAN AND HOW WE MOVE FROM MANAGING PARKING TO BETTER MANAGING CURB PERFORMANCE. UH, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2020 WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES WE REALLY TRIED TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND, UH, CURB MANAGEMENT AND CURB PERFORMANCE, LOOKING AT THE AUSTIN CURB ROADMAP. AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE CURB MANAGEMENT STRATEGIC PLAN. EVEN BACK THEN IN 2023, WE SAW SOME MAJOR POLICY CHANGES AROUND THE REMOVAL OF PARKING MINIMUMS AND QUESTIONS WERE ARISING. WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO RESIDENTIAL STREETS IN THE AREAS IF WE SAW SOME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TAKE HOLD WITHOUT, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FULL PARKING REQUIREMENTS THEY USED TO HAVE? AND OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE SEEN REALLY RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF AUTONOMOUS VEHICLE TECHNOLOGY DEPLOYMENT AND MORE COMMERCIAL RIDE SHARE SERVICES AND, UH, DELIVERY SERVICES. AND SO WE KICKED OFF THIS PLAN, UH, IN JUNE OF 2025. WE RECEIVED THE DRAFT DELIVERABLE IN MAY OF 26 AND FINALIZE THE PLAN LATE JULY. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THIS PLAN. I ALSO WANNA JUST SAY APPRECIATION FOR THE STAFF AND THE PARTNERS THAT WORKED ON THE PLAN, INCLUDING JMT AND THE JOURNEY TEAM THAT HELPED DEVELOP IT. SO WE'LL GO INTO AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PLAN IS AND ISN'T. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGHOUT THE PLAN, SOME KEY CHALLENGES AND FINDINGS FROM A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, THE CURB TYPOLOGIES, WHICH IS A MAJOR DELIVERABLE, AND THEN THE RECOMMENDED CURB MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES ALONG WITH WHAT OUR ROADMAP LOOKS LIKE TODAY AND OUR NEXT STEPS. SO THE CURB MANAGEMENT PLAN IS A CITYWIDE POLICY INFORMED OPERATIONAL FRAMEWORK. IT GIVES US THIS COMMON LANGUAGE TO BE ABLE TO CLASSIFY CURBS BASED ON THE CONTEXT OF WHICH THEY'RE OPERATING. UH, THE TYPOLOGIES WERE DEVELOPED WITH THAT IN MIND, PRIMARILY BASED ON LAND USE, BUT ALSO ACTIVITY THAT WE SEE AROUND THOSE PARTICULAR TYPES OF CURBS AND HOW WE CAN APPLY THAT IN A REPEATABLE, YOU [00:35:01] KNOW, DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT WE CAN BE CONSISTENT AROUND THE CITY. REALLY, THE GOAL HERE IS TO USE THE CURB SPACE IN WAYS THAT IMPROVE SAFETY, SUPPORT, MOBILITY CHOICE, ENHANCE ACCESS, MAKE MORE EFFECTIVE USE OF THE LIMITED PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. I WANNA MAKE SURE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE AS SMP PROVIDES REALLY STRONG POLICY AROUND WHAT CURB MANAGEMENT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND ITS FUTURE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL WE CAN OPERATE WITH THE CURRENT CODE AND WE MIGHT BRING SOME CHANGES OVER TIME IF NEEDED. BUT THE PLAN REALLY RECOMMENDED ENSURING THAT THE ORDINANCES ALLOW US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO OVER TIME AND POSSIBLY DOING SOME MANUALS OR, UH, SOPS TO DOCUMENT THE PROCESS AND DECISION MAKING. SO THE CURB, THIS CURB MANAGEMENT PLAN IS NOT A REGULATORY DOCUMENT, AND IT'S ALSO NOT A BLOCK LEVEL REDESIGN OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS AROUND THAT. UH, ANY CHO CHANGES TO PRIORITIZATION OF THE SPACE FOR MOBILITY PURPOSES, THAT'LL FOLLOW KIND OF THE EXISTING PROCESSES THAT ARE IN PLACE THROUGH OUR PLANNING, ENGINEERING, COMING TO COUNCIL, HAVING THE DISCUSSION, GOING TO THE COMMUNITY, AND GETTING INPUT ALONG THE WAY. SO WE FEEL THIS PLAN'S REALLY GONNA INFORM MANY OF OUR FUTURE CHALLENGES FROM DEVELOPMENT, MAJOR TRANSIT INVESTMENTS, NEW PARKS, UH, OTHER CHANGES THAT WE SEE ON A REGULAR BASIS IN OUR DYNAMIC CITY. JOSEPH, THANK YOU. LOUIS. JOSEPH MOHA, PARK ENTERPRISE MANAGER. SO WE'RE GONNA JUST GO OVER, UH, WHAT WE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE, IN THE PLAN, UM, AND THE DIFFERENT TASKS HERE TO GET HERE. THE TEAM COMPLETED FOUR MAJOR TASKS OVER ROUGHLY 11 MONTHS. UH, WE DID A LITERATURE REVIEW OF PEER, UH, CITY PRACTICE AND INDUSTRY GUIDANCE. UH, WE RAN A COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT INCLUDED FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM, UH, UTC TWICE, UH, A CITYWIDE SURVEY, UH, ON SPEAK UP AUSTIN. UM, AND A A REALLY FUN AND, AND AND, UH, EXCITING EXPERIENCE IN A CURB SUMMIT, UH, WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS FROM, UH, THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY. UM, IN OUR PUBLIC, WE DEVELOPED A CURB TYPOLOGY FRAMEWORK YOU'LL SEE IN A FEW MINUTES. UM, AND WE INVENTORIED EXISTING CURB CONDITIONS, ANALYZE UTILIZATION DATA, AND ALL OF THAT ROLLED UP INTO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOCUMENT. UM, AND THIS IS, UM, WHAT WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE TODAY. UH, ALL RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT ENGAGEMENT. UM, ENGAGEMENT IS WHERE THIS REALLY SHAPED UP, UM, THE REST OF OUR PROCESS, UM, HEARING FROM OUR COMMUNITY, UM, FROM VISITORS, BUSINESSES, DELIVERY DRIVERS, VALET COMPANIES, CITY STAFF, AND PARTNERING AGENCIES, WHAT WE HEARD REALLY LAID THE GROUND TRUTH TO BOTH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WHEN ACCESSING THE CURBSIDE. WE RECEIVED OVER 500 RESPONSES THROUGH SPEAK UP AUSTIN SURVEY. WE SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WITH INTERCEPT SURVEYS, AND WE CONDUCTED A CURB SUMMIT WHERE WE INVITED VARIOUS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A PANEL DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT. WHEN USED IN AUSTIN CURBSIDE, WE HEARD FIVE CONSISTENT THEMES. UH, EACH OF THESE TAKEAWAYS MAPS DIRECTLY TO AN OPERATIONAL IMPLICATION IN THE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THAT PAIRING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE TABLE. UM, AND WHAT WE LEARNED IS, YOU KNOW, PICK UP AND DROP OFFS AND DELIVERY ACTIVITIES, CREATING PRESSURE POINTS. AND AS YOU'LL SEE SHORTLY, IT'S THE GREATEST GROWING SOURCE OF CONFLICT AT THE CURB. UM, CONFUSION FROM UNCLEAR AND INCONSISTENT SIGNAGE AND EVEN ENFORCE, UM, AN UNEVEN ENFORCEMENT. UM, PEOPLE TOLD US THAT, UH, THEY NEED FLEXIBILITY AND COORDINATION, NOT A RIGID ONE SIZE FITS ALL RULE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, ALONGSIDE WITH ENGAGEMENT, UH, WE COLLECTED DIRECT OB OBSERVATIONAL DATA AT EIGHT LOCATIONS ACROSS THE CITY, UH, CHOSEN TO REPRESENT A RANGE OF LAND USES, UH, STREET TYPES, ACTIVITY LEVELS, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE MAPPED HERE FROM DOWNTOWN TO WEST CAMPUS AND MAINOR ROAD TO EAST 11TH STREET AT EACH LOCATION. OBSERVATION DATA WAS COLLECTED 24 HOURS A DAY OVER A SEVEN DAY PERIOD AT EACH SITE. WE TRACK TRANSPORTATION MODES, UM, AND USES DIFFERENT TYPES, COMMERCIAL DELIVERY ACTIVITY, PASSENGER PICKUP AND DROP OFFS, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKING ACTIVITY FROM TURNOVER, OCCUPANCY AND DURATION OF OF STAYS, UM, AS WELL AS VIOLATION TRENDS. WE ALSO USE THIS DATA TO VERIFY OUR PAID PARKING TRANSACTION RECORDS. WE HAVE DATA THAT COMES TO US AND HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO THIS AND, AND PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER. SO WHAT DO WE LEARN FROM THESE OBSERVATIONS? YEAH. MOST OF AUSTIN'S CURVE SPACE IS ALLOCATED TO LONG DURATION VEHICLE STORAGE. WELL, THE FASTEST GROWING DEMAND IS SHORT DURATION, SPECIFICALLY 77% OF OUR CURB SPACE CITYWIDE IS DEDICATED TO PARKING, STORAGE, LOADING, AND PICKUP AND DROP OFF COMBINED IS ABOUT 1%, BOTH THAT ONE, UH, BUT THAT 1% IS GENERATING A DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE CONFLICTS THAT WE'RE SEEING. SO THIS PLAN IDENTIFIED SEVEN FOCUSED AREAS DRIVING THIS. THE ALLOCATION VERSUS DEMAND MISMATCH I JUST DESCRIBED, UM, STATIC RULES TRYING TO MANAGE DEMAND, THAT VARIES BY TIME OF DAY AND DAY OF WEEK. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE CHART ON THE RIGHT, UH, WITH CLEAR LUNCH AND DINNER PEAKS AND A WEAKENED EVENING SURGE REGULATORY COMPLEXITY FROM OVERLAPPING SIGNAGE AND PERMIT TYPES, UM, AND ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY THAT KE UH, CAN'T KEEP UP WITH HIGH VOLUME SHORT DURATION ACT, SHORT DURATION ACTIVITY. UM, [00:40:01] YOU KNOW, ONE DATA POINT I'D LIKE TO FLAG HERE IS ON THE WEEKEND, VEHICLES IN UNRESTRICTED ON-STREET SPACES STAYED AN AVERAGE OF 91 MINUTES VERSUS 78 MINUTES IN PAID SPACES. THAT IS A GAP OF ONE OF THE CLEAREST SIGNALS THAT PRICING AND TIME LIMITS CHANGE BEHAVIOR AT THE CURB. SO TO HAVE A MORE, UM, UH, THOROUGH APPROACH TO CURBSIDE MANAGEMENT DECISIONS, WE NEED A STARTING POINT TO HELP WITH THE CONSISTENT CURB EVALUATION MODEL. THIS IS WHY THE CURB TYPOLOGY FRAMEWORK WAS DEVELOPED. THIS IS A CONTEXT BASED APPROACH THAT PRIORITIZES CURB FUNCTION OVER A ONE SIZE FITS ALL RULE BOOK. UH, IT ALLOWS BLOCK BY BLOCK FLEXIBILITY. IT'S A NETWORK ORIENTED, IT'S NETWORK ORIENTED. SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CORRIDORS NOT JUST ISOLATED SEGMENTS, AND IT'S DATA DRIVEN AND REPEATABLE. UM, TYPOLOGIES DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY PRESCRIBE REGULATIONS FOR EVERY BLOCK. I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. UH, THERE ARE STARTING FRAMEWORK FOR EVALUATION OPTIONS. THEY DO NOT REPLACE STAFF JUDGMENT OR COMMUNITY INPUT ON THE GROUND. IT'S A STARTING POINT FOR A CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO MENTION THAT WHEN WE, UH, STARTED THIS PROCESS, UM, WE LOOKED AT OTHER, UH, CITIES THAT HAVE DONE SIMILAR TYPOLOGY FRAMEWORKS. IT'S VERY, UM, UH, CENTERED AROUND ONE SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHICAL AREA IN THAT CITY. UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND GOING TO THE NEXT STEP IN TRYING TO DO IT CITYWIDE. SO THIS WAS A HUGE EFFORT FOR US, UM, TO REALLY CREATE, UM, A PROCESS THAT'S REPEATABLE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. SO HOW DOES THIS LOOK? UM, HERE'S WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE APPLIED TO RURAL LOCATION. UM, THE FRAMEWORK CAN BE APPLIED CITYWIDE, AND IT'S BUILT DIRECTLY OFF ADJACENT LAND USES AND OTHER DRIVERS THAT WE LOOK AT. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE MAP THERE, NORTHLAND MAR BOULEVARD. UM, JUST KIND OF TAKING A QUICK SNAPSHOT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SHADING HERE REPRESENTS DIFFERENT LAND USES, AND THOSE LAND USES INFORM THE CURB TYPES. WE DESIGN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, GETS A VERY DIFFERENT CURB TREATMENT THAN A CIVIC AND OFFICE, AS WELL AS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND OTHER THINGS. AND THAT PLAYS INTO HOW WE START TO ASSIGN CURB TYPOLOGY. SO LET'S LOOK AT THOSE AND THEN HOW WE ASSIGN THEM. THIS TABLE IS THE TYPOLOGY FRAMEWORK, WHICH IDENTIFIES NINE CURB TYPES, EACH WITH A PRIMARY DRIVER, A TYPICAL CONTEXT AND GENERAL IMPLICATIONS FOR CURB MANAGEMENT DESCRIBING, UH, THEY DESCRIBE THE DOMINANT ROLE OF THE CURB WITHIN ITS RELATIVE CONTEXT AND FORMS CURB ALLOCATION PRIORITIES AND ITS STRATEGIES MOST LIKELY TO BE EFFECTIVE. UM, AT ONE END YOU HAVE HIGH MO ACTIVITY MOBILITY QUARTERS, WHICH ARE TRANSIT RICH MAJOR, UH, MAJOR CITYWIDE ROUTES WHERE CURB ACCESS IS LIMITED, UH, BECAUSE MOVING PEOPLE TAKES PRIORITY. UH, LET'S THINK ABOUT LIKE SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD. UM, IN OTHER CASES YOU HAVE, UH, IN BETWEEN THE CATEGORIES FOR BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL AREAS, ENTERTAINMENT AND DINING DISTRICTS, UH, WITH TIME-BASED DEMAND. AND THEN YOU HAVE, UM, A CATEGORY FOR MULTIPLE HIGH PRESSURE FOR THE URBAN CORE, UH, INTERSECTIONS WHERE SEVERAL OF THESE DEMANDS OVERLAP. UH, AND ACTIVE FLEXIBLE MANAGEMENT IS GEN, UH, GENUINELY NEEDED. BY FRAMING THESE QUESTIONS IN A CONSISTENT WAY, THE TYPOLOGY ESTABLISHES A CLEAR PROCESS, UH, A CLEAR STARTING POINT FOR COORDINATION ANALYSIS AND PUBLIC DISCUSSION. UH, INITIAL TYPOLOGIES CAN CHANGE BASED ON ADDITIONAL DATA INPUT. I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO STRESS THAT THIS IS A, UH, A WAY FOR US TO HAVE A STARTING POINT. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEANT TO BE A FLEXIBLE AND NIMBLE AS WE LEARN THE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS BASED OFF OF, UH, A DIFFERENT AREA CONTEXT. SO HOW DO WE ASSIGN THEM AND HOW DO WE CREATE IT CITYWIDE? UM, THERE ARE FOUR STEPS FOR US TO DO THAT. UM, STEP ONE, WE, YOU KNOW, DECIDE THAT IF THE CURB BLAME PRIMARILY SUPPORTS MOVEMENT, UM, IF YES, THEN IT'S, IT IS EVALUATED MOBILITY ACTIVITY LEVEL AND ASSIGN ONE OF THE TWO MOBILITY CORRIDOR TYPES. UM, IF IT'S NOT, UM, THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S THE MAJOR ACTIVITY TYPE, OR IS IT A SINGLE MAJOR TYPE WITH SPILLOVER? UH, IF YES, THEN IT'S A MULTIPLE HIGH PRESSURE DESIGNATION. UM, IS THERE SPILLOVER FROM A NEARBY HIGH ACTIVITY AREA? IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN UH, THAT'S A SUPPORTING STREET. UM, AND IF IT'S A SINGLE DOMINANT DRIVER REMAINS AFTER THAT, THEN THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD JUST ASSIGN THE SINGLE TYPOLOGY, LIKE A PARK AN OPEN SPACE. THIS IS WHAT MAKES THE FRAMEWORK REPEATABLE RATHER THAN SUBJECTIVE AND ALLOWS US TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK CITYWIDE, AND THEN HAVE THAT STARTING POINT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO ADDRESS CURBSIDE CHANGES. ALONG WITH THE BUILDING OF OUR CITYWIDE CURB TYPOLOGY FRAMEWORK. UH, THE PLAN IDENTIFIES CURB MANAGEMENT TOOLS AND STRATEGIES CATEGORIES IN FOUR FOCUS AREAS. FIRST, DATA FUNDAMENTALS COVERING THE DATA CONVERTING, I'M SORRY, UH, CONVERTING THE DIGITAL CURB INVENTORY TO A STANDARD DATA SPECIFICATION. THIS IS THE FOUNDATION, UM, AND REALLY IS, UH, UH, HELPS US, UH, CREATE A CONSISTENT, UH, CURB INVENTORY, UM, THAT HELP, UM, UM, UH, DEPEND ON OTHER, UH, UH, PART OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE, UH, UP HERE NEXT. UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AROUND, UM, [00:45:01] WHAT DATA, UM, UH, FUNDAMENTALS REALLY MEANS. AND I THINK AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA COMING IN, UM, AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO STANDARDIZE THAT SO THAT WE CAN ONE, PRESENT THAT OUT IN A SPATIAL VIEW, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, IN INTERNALLY BE ABLE TO USE THAT IN A WAY TO MAKE BETTER DECISIONS. SO WHEN WE TALK TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR WE'RE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, WE CAN CLEARLY STATE WHAT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SECOND, PRICING AND MANAGEMENT DEMAND. THIS MEANS STANDARDIZING OUR PROCESS FOR EXPANDING PAID PARKING, UH, WORKING TOWARD BLOCK LEVEL PERFORMANCE BASED PRICING, COORDINATING ON STREET AND OFF STREET PRICING AND WAYFINDING TOGETHER, UH, AND EXPANDING HYBRID PARKING ZONES. ALL IN WAYS FOR US TO, IT'S A TOOLBOX FOR US TO LOOK AT, DEPENDING ON THE CURBSIDE NEEDS IN THOSE AREAS. UM, AND A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT DOING PILOTS OVER TIME TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE USED IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS. THIRD, ALIGNING CURB ALLOCATION TO DEMAND CONSOLIDATING AND EXPANDING LOADING ZONES. SO WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF SPACE FOR SHORT DURATION ACTIVITY AND COORDINATING WITH AUSTIN RE AND AS WELL AS AU UH, COORDINATING WITH AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY. SO WASTE COLLECTION DOESN'T, UH, DO THINGS LIKE BLOCK BIKE LANES. UM, AND I WILL, LIKE I SAY, WE, WE, WE HAD A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, BUT IT'S NOT LIMITED TO JUST AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY. UM, THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO AND OTHER WAYS THAT THEY INTERACT WITH THE CURB. UM, AND THIS IS REALLY A COORDINATION PIECE. HOW DO WE COORDINATE BETTER WITH THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE BETTER OUTCOMES FOR OUR CURBSIDE ENFORCE ENFORCEMENT? CONSISTENT AND EXPANDED ENFORCEMENT IS CRUCIAL TO ACHIEVE THE BEHAVIOR CHANGES IDENTIFIED WHEN IMPLEMENTING CURB POLICIES. AS WE HEARD FROM THE ENGAGEMENT OF THIS PLAN, THE COMMUNITY INDICATED THAT INCONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT CREATES CONFUSION LEADING TO AN INSECURITY IF SOMEONE IS USING THE SPACE CORRECTLY. THAT IS WHY THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO EVALUATE ADDITIONAL TOOLS LIKE LICENSE PLATE READER TECHNOLOGY, UH, IN A LIMITED CAPACITY FOR EXPANDING PARKING REGULATION COMPLIANCE. THIS WOULD SUPPORT EXTENDING MOBILITY SERVICE ENFORCEMENT CAPACITY WITHOUT A PROPORTIONAL INCREASE IN STAFF. WE ARE EVALUATING THIS RECOMMENDATION THOROUGHLY, UM, AND WE WILL ENSURE WE ALIGN OUR REVIEW PROCESSES WITH THE CITY'S TRUST ACT, UM, PROCESS, UH, BEFORE IT REACHES ANY POSSIBLE STAGE OF PILOTING OR IMPLEMENTATION. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS KIND OF EACH STEP BUILDS ON EACH OTHER. UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE DATA TO INFORM A BETTER DIAGNOSIS OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING AT THE CURB. THAT REQUIRES US TO TAKE SOME STEPS ON THE DATA FUNDAMENTALS. UH, HAVING THAT DIAGNOSIS ALLOWS FOR US TO USE THIS CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO APPLY SMARTER CURB ALLOCATION REGULATION. AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE IN SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FUNCTIONING THE WAY THAT WE EXPECT IT TO. THAT SHOULD LEAD US TO THE OUTCOMES AND, AND RESULTS THAT WE'VE ALL SEEN IN THE AS SMP AND OTHER POLICY GUIDANCE. WE WANNA HAVE LESS DOUBLE PARKING. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE BUS, YOU KNOW, UH, LANES CAN FUNCTION THE WAY THEY NEED TO AND, AND BUSES CAN GET WHERE THEY'RE GOING ON TIME. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BIKE LANE BLOCKAGES AREN'T HAPPENING FREQUENTLY WITH, UH, CURBSIDE DELIVERY OR PICK UP AND DROP OFF ACTIVITIES. SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THEN WE'LL HOPEFULLY HAVE ACHIEVED A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOWARDS OUR GOAL OF SAFER, MORE RELIABLE MULTIMODAL STREETS AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO PRICING, LOADING ENFORCEMENT WORKING TOGETHER TO IMPROVE THE CURB AVAILABILITY, REDUCE THE CONFLICTS SUPPORT, MORE RELIABLE MULTIMODAL ACCESS THROUGHOUT OUR NETWORK. SO FOR US, OUR NEXT STEPS REALLY ARE TRYING TO TAKE WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED IN THIS PLAN AND START TO IMPLEMENT. UH, THAT MEANS SOME OF THE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS WILL MOVE FORWARD, UH, SOME OF WHICH WILL HAPPEN CONCURRENTLY. WE WANNA START WITH THAT DATA FUNDAMENTALS. YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE A WEALTH OF DATA, ARE WE STRUCTURING THAT DATA IN A WAY THAT WE CAN USE THAT FOR CONSISTENT ANALYSIS AND BE ABLE TO EVALUATE PROPERLY THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THE GROUND TO SEE IF WE'RE HAVING THE IMPACT THAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE. THAT INCLUDES SOME, UH, PROCUREMENT PROCESSES THAT WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND THEN THE NEXT PART IS IMPLEMENTING SOME CHANGES AT SOME OF THESE SITES. YOU KNOW, WE, THROUGHOUT THE PLAN PROCESS, WE USED DATA COLLECTION AT A NUMBER OF SITES, UH, WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTEXT TO REALLY INFORM THE PLAN AND THE STRATEGIES AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WANNA START IMPLEMENTING CHANGES AT THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE WE'VE ALREADY DONE EACH STEP IN THIS PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THAT PROCESS IS VALID AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THOSE LOCATIONS AS WE PILOT THOSE. AND THEN START TO EVALUATE THEM OVER TIME, UH, IN THE EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR IN THE CALENDAR YEAR. YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH SOME OF THOSE PILOTS STARTING TO SEE THE EVALUATION RESULTS AND BE ABLE TO USE THAT INFORMATION TO INFORM WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TO FUTURE LOCATIONS IN THE SPRING OF 2027. UH, DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE ONE THING? YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DIRECTION AT THE ACT PLAN ADOPTION IN MARCH 26TH TO PROACTIVELY AND SYSTEMATICALLY ADDRESS CAREER MANAGEMENT DOWNTOWN BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. WE THINK THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN REACHING THAT DIRECTION AS WELL. AND THEN ANOTHER PIECE TO THIS WILL BE ABOUT RESOURCES. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, AS WITH MOST PLANS, THERE'S A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, A LOT OF STRATEGIES. WE'VE GOT EXISTING STAFF WORKING ON EXISTING PRIORITIES AND STRATEGIES. AND SO HOW MUCH OF THAT CAN [00:50:01] BE ABSORBED AND HOW MUCH OF THAT MIGHT NEED NEW RESOURCES. THAT'LL BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE OVER THE COMING MONTHS AS WE GET BACK INTO, UH, BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AGAIN FOR FISCAL YEAR 28. AND SO AS WE GET THROUGH ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE, BE ABLE TO USE IT AS AN OPERATIONAL FRAMEWORK. I'M GLAD TO COME BACK HERE INTO THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND LET Y'ALL KNOW HOW IT'S GOING IN A A SIX MONTH PERIOD. AND IN THE PLAN ITSELF, IT DOES RECOMMEND ANNUAL REPORTING SO THAT WE CAN TRACK PROGRESS, SEE WHERE WE'RE FALLING SHORT, AND BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS NOTING TOO. UH, FOR THE FINAL COMMENT, THE PLAN DOCUMENT ITSELF IS AVAILABLE ONLINE ON OUR PLANS AND REPORTS AT TPW AND WE'LL BE SENDING THAT OUT, UH, TO Y'ALL AS WELL AS PART OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THINK VICE CHAIR CADRE HAS SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. GREAT. AS THE REP FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA, I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN SOME CURBSIDE ISSUES. JUST A LITTLE. UM, WELL THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE, UH, THE RED RIVER, UH, BE BEING ONE OF THE PILOT AREAS. UM, AND, AND IT SEEING CHANGES COMING UP. WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM, UH, FOLKS IN THE AREA, UM, MUSICIANS, UM, SPECIFICALLY AROUND SOME ISSUES THAT THEY'VE DEALT WITH. SO, SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE PROPERLY TAKEN CARE OF AND THAT SUPPORT IS THERE IS, IS VERY MUCH WELCOMED. UM, YOU KNOW, STILL THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MORE WORK TO BE DONE WITH AWESOME ERS, RECOVERY ON THE CURB USE AND STILL WANT TO SEE MORE PICKUP AND DROP OFF OPTIONS. UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR FOLKS. BUT THE ONE THING THAT I NOTICE, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO I GUESS WE ALL WORK IN, IN, IN THE AREA, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE AREA, UM, AND AS SOMEONE WHO, WHO USED TO LIVE DOWN DOWN HERE IN DOWNTOWN IS A LOT OF TIMES I'LL STILL SEE AV, UH, BABIES, UM, OUT AND ABOUT PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF FOLKS AND USING THOSE BIKE LANE. SO IS THERE ANY WORK BEING DONE, I GUESS TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, TO KIND OF, KIND OF, KIND OF WORK ON THOSE ISSUES? ABSOLUTELY. COUNCIL MEMBER, I, I THINK WHAT WE SAW WAS SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION IS WE SAW THAT EXACT THING, RIGHT? ANECDOTALLY WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IT. I THINK EACH OF US HAS PROBABLY SEEN IT HAPPEN. UH, UH, ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION. AN AV IS STOPPING FOR THREE MINUTES TO PICK UP OR DROP OFF A PASSENGER AND BLOCKING THE TRAVEL LANE ITSELF. AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, THAT THE BIKE LANES ARE CLEAR. THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF, I THINK, UM, WITH THE LOCATIONS THAT WE ARE GONNA IMPLEMENT FIRST THROUGH THE PILOT, BE ABLE TO DESIGNATE SOME MORE PICKUP AND DROP OFF ZONES, LOADING ZONES, HAVING SOME OF THAT SHORT DURATION ACTIVITY THAT WE'VE SEEN CONSISTENTLY THROUGHOUT KINDA THE CENTRAL AREA. BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME MORE OF THOSE ZONES AND SEE IF TESTING THAT OUT HAS MADE A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE. AND I THINK PART OF OUR ROLE WILL BE TO ENGAGE WITH THOSE COMPANIES AS WELL. WHETHER THAT'S FOOD DELIVERY OR, UH, SHORT TERM MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES OR PICKUP, DROP OFF, RIDE SHARE, AVS, ALL OF IT, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS TYPICALLY DON'T ALIGN WELL WITH JUST HAVING REGULAR PAID PARKING ZONES. AND SO WE WANT TO TEST OUT SOME OF THE NEW REGULATIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE WITH AVS AND PICKUP DROP OFF. SURE. ESPECIALLY AS, AS WE SEE MORE AVS AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO FESTIVAL SEASON, I THINK OF, OF SOUTH BY, AND YOU HAVE NOT ONLY THE AVS BUT YOU HAVE OTHER, UM, I KNOW ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND KIND OF BLOCKING OFF LANDS AND IT, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, NUMEROUS FOLKS WHO EITHER LIVE OR ARE GOING THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN AREA WHO ARE ON THEIR BIKE AND THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE NEAR MISSES. UH, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING FOLKS HAVE TO BE AFRAID ABOUT OR, OR HAVE TO DEAL WITH. ABSOLUTELY. AND I, I THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT. WE, WE WANT COMPLIANCE WITH THE, THE RULES OF THE ROAD. AND WE'RE NOT AFTER, UH, ANY PARTICULAR ACTIVITY NECESSARILY. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE SO THEY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE. SO THEY DO KNOW WHERE TO GO IF WE'RE DIRECTING THEM TO NOT BE HERE, WHERE SHOULD THEY BE GOING? AND SO WE NEED TO CREATE SOME MORE SPACES LIKE THAT. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? LET'S GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER LANE. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST I HAVE TO REALLY COMPLIMENT YOU, UH, THIS CHEFS 'CAUSE THIS IS REALLY FANTASTIC WORK. I REALLY ENJOYED READING ABOUT AT THE PRESENTATION. UM, CAN'T AGREE MORE THAT IT IS SO MUCH HARDER TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK THAT'S REPEATABLE, CITYWIDE VERSUS SIMPLY TAILORING TO SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE CITY. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT'S GONE INTO THAT. AND I REALLY THINK THAT Y'ALL RAISE, Y'ALL ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE ON THIS. AND SO FOR SORT OF BUSINESSES, THE COMPLIMENTS, UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, SO IF WE THINK ABOUT IN, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, THIS HAS BEEN PILOTED AND IN SORT OF THE CENTRAL CORE, THE CORE OF THE CITY WHERE THE APPLICATIONS ARE THE MOST SELF-EVIDENT. UM, COMPANIES LIKE UBER, LYFT, UPS AND FEDEX USE THE CURB EXTENSIVELY AS A CORE PART OF THEIR BUSINESS, LARGELY FOR FREE. CITIES LIKE PHILADELPHIA AND OMAHA, OMAHA HAVE RUN SMART LOADING ZONES THAT CHARGE COMMERCIAL DRIVERS BY THE MINUTE AROUND 10 CENTS A MINUTE IN PHILADELPHIA. AND SAN FRANCISCO IS ALSO EXPLORING A CURB TIME FEE ON DELIVERY AND RIDE HAIL OPERATORS [00:55:01] TO HELP FUND TRANSIT. WOULD THAT KIND OF PERMANENT COMMERCIAL LOADING ZONE FEE BE POSSIBLE FOR AUSTIN? IS IT SOMETHING YOU'VE CONSIDERED? YEAH. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, YEAH, UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPLORING. I KNOW OUR, UH, OTHER SISTER CITIES LIKE HOUSTON IS, IS ALSO LOOKING AT PILOTING SOMETHING SIMILAR. UM, AND SO IT, IT, THROUGH THIS PLAN WE'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER CURB, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT TOOLS, UM, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US. AND I THINK AS WE REVIEW THOSE PROCESS AND, AND UNDERSTAND AS WE PILOT, UH, WHAT THOSE, UH, TECHNOLOGIES CAN DO, UM, CHARGING FOR OUR LOADING ZONES AND WORKING WITH OUR DELIVERY COMPANIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST USES ARE, UM, IS A POSSIBILITY. GREAT. AND I'LL JUST ADD COUNCIL MEMBER TWO. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND USE OF TECHNOLOGY IS REALLY CRITICAL BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THAT WITH A PERSON STANDING THERE ALL DAY, RIGHT? TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HERE'S THE LICENSE PLATE, WE'LL SEND YOU A BILL. SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE'RE EAGER TO TRY OUT AND TEST OUT SOME NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT OUTCOME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL ALIGNED WITH KIND OF THE CLEAR DIRECTION THAT COUNCILS HAS PROVIDED AS FAR AS USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN THOSE CASES. COULDN'T AGREE MORE. AND, AND ALSO AS WE FIGURE OUT SOLUTIONS TO ALLOW, LIKE FOR THAT SHIFT FROM THE HIGH TURNOVER, UM, CURBSIDE ACCESS VERSUS THE LONG-TERM CAR STORAGE, I, I'LL PUT IT, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES START TO OPEN UP AS WELL. BUT I'LL JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REPRESENT DOWNTOWN THE CENTRAL CITY, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND WOULD LOVE TO BE HELPFUL. HOWEVER, I CAN BE FROM OUR OFFICE. I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. UM, SO I WAS ALSO INTERESTED TO SEE THE PARKS AND RECREATION, I, WHAT WAS IT, PARKS AND OPEN SPACES USE ON YOUR FRAMEWORK, AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE AS WELL. AND I WONDER IF WE COULD CONSIDER HOW CONSIDER, UM, MAYBE PILOTING SOMETHING FOR THAT EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER. AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'LL BE SHOCKED TO HEAR THIS, BUT I HAVE SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE THOUGHTS AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO LAY THEM OUT FOR YOU. I THINK THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS A CITY, WE'VE INVESTED IN PARKING IN, IN THE OLDEN DAYS MORE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS SHIFT. WELL, YOU KNOW, AS, AS FUNDS HAVE GOTTEN TIGHT AND BOND FUNDING'S TIGHT AND WE HAVE SO MANY PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES THAT ARE USED AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN IT WILL BE FEASIBLE TO HAVE PARKING FOR. AND SO THERE ARE SOME, CERTAINLY SOME SPECIFIC EXAMPLES WHERE I'VE THOUGHT THAT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE IS ACTUALLY ADEQUATE FOR PROBABLY HANDICAP SPACES AND SHORT TERM DROP OFF AND PICK UP. AND THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, IT CAN GET REALLY EXPENSIVE TO CHANGE THAT. SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED ABOUT A PILOT FOR PARKS AND RECREATIONAL USES. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE A PROCEDURAL QUESTION ABOUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. SO IN MY MIND I WAS THINKING, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HIRE SOMEONE TO DO ALL OF THIS WORK AND THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US ONE REPORT AND THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH THE METHODOLOGY AND DO ALL THE RESEARCH AND WE CAN DO WITH IT WHAT WE WILL. IT SOUNDS LIKE CITY STAFF IS TAKING A VERY CONCERTED EFFORT TO SAY, THIS IS EXACTLY HOW WE THINK THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE STUDIED, AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE ELSE COME IN TO HELP CRUNCH THOSE NUMBERS AND PROVIDE OPTIONS. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF HOW THIS IS GONNA WORK? I, I THINK IT'S CLOSE. UH, JELLI, I THINK THE, THE PLAN GIVES US THE, THE PROCESSES, THE BUSINESS PROCESSES AND DECISION MAKING FRAMEWORKS THAT WE'VE BEEN EAGER TO HAVE SO THAT WE CAN BE CONSISTENT APPLICATION AS OPPOSED TO JUST BEING REACTIVE TO EVERY PARKING CONCERN THAT COMES IN. AND SO GIVING US THAT, I THINK IS THE STARTING POINT. AND SO WE WANT TO PILOT IT WITH EXISTING RESOURCES ON OUR OWN INTERNAL STAFF TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS KNOWN ISSUES. UH, I THINK THE PLAN EVEN POINTS OUT THAT WE KNOW WHETHER THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN, PARTICULARLY IN THE DOWNTOWN CORE, WHERE WE SEE DEMAND COMPETING DEMAND FOR THE SAME CURB SPACE. AND SO HOW DO WE BETTER MANAGE THAT PERFORMANCE OF THAT CURB? OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN DO SOME OF THIS WITH THE PILOTS THAT WE'VE GOT IN MIND ALREADY FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THAT. AND AT THE SAME TIME, CONCURRENTLY, AS I MENTIONED, COMING UP WITH ANY KIND OF BUDGET NEEDS OR RECOMMENDATIONS, WE WOULD GO THROUGH OUR TYPICAL PROCESS WORKING THROUGH OUR CITY LEADERSHIP, UH, BRING THAT FORWARD IF IT'S NEEDED. SO, UH, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT A WHOLE PLAN IN YEAR ONE OR FIRST SIX MONTHS. UH, OUR GOAL IS TO REALLY PRIORITIZE WITHIN THE PLAN WHAT COULD BE DONE AND THEN START TO BUILD TOWARDS THAT IN THE FUTURE. I DO APPRECIATE THE THOROUGHNESS, UH, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS WITH. UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT I SEE GOING ON IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS THAT THERE'S OFTENTIMES VEHICLES JUST STOPPING IN THE TRAVEL LANE WITH THEIR LIGHTS BLINKING. AND SOMETIMES IT'S FINE IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NOT MUCH GOING ON ON THAT STREET, BUT OFTENTIMES I SEE IT IN PLACES WHERE THERE IS AN OPEN PARKING SPOT OR MULTIPLE OPEN PARKING SPOTS RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. THEY'RE JUST NOT ACTUALLY PULLING INTO IT TO WAIT. I KNOW THAT THE STATE, UH, DISALLOWED US FROM DOING A, A TON OF OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT OF SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UBER LYFT RIDE SHARE TYPES OF SERVICES. BUT WHERE [01:00:01] DOES THAT CONVERSATION OVERLAP WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF, YOU CAN'T JUST STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD FOREVER. CAN YOU TELL ME KIND OF HOW THAT'S BEING ASSESSED BETWEEN TPW AND I KNOW OUR, OUR, UM, ASSISTANT CHIEF LEFT, BUT UM, WE DIDN'T TELL HIM HE WAS GONNA BE ON FOR THIS TOPIC. WELL, I CAN START AND JOSEPH MIGHT ADD INTO, BUT I THINK THE INTENTION IS THAT IF WE HAVE SOME KNOWN PROBLEM AREAS AND WE KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE A WAY TO CHANGE THE REGULATION AT THE CURB, TO BE ABLE TO AGAIN, POINT THOSE FOLKS, NOT JUST START WITH CITATIONS AND END WITH CITATIONS, BUT TO ABLE TO WORK WITH SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THAT WE ARE KNOWN. WELL, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN HAPPEN OVER AND OVER ON THE ROADWAY, UM, WORK WITH SOME OF THEM TO SAY, LOOK, WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN THESE ZONES TO WHERE YOU CAN USE THOSE FOR A SHORT DURATION, FIVE MINUTE PICKUP OR DROP OFF OR DELIVERY. AND IF WE CAN START TO POINT THEM TO THERE, THEN AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW YOU CAN'T DO, AND HERE ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES FOR YOU. AND I THINK THAT IN CON, IN CONJUNCTION SHOULD WORK REALLY WELL TO START TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE'VE TYPICALLY SEEN AS YOU SAW THE REPORT SAY VAST MAJORITY, THREE QUARTERS OF OUR MANAGED CURB SPACE IS JUST PAID APART. AND IT'S JUST WHAT IT IS, BUT IT, IT'S NOT MEETING THE TYPES OF ACTIVITY THAT WE SEE SHORT DURATION THAT'S REALLY GROWN IN IN RECENT YEARS. YEAH. I'LL ADD, I THINK THE OTHER PART IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS TO CREATE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE COMPANIES. AND THE FIRST THING WE CAN DO, AND I, WHAT WE SAID EARLIER ABOUT DATA FUNDAMENTALS, UM, IS CREATING A DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE, UH, COMPANIES TO BE ABLE TO READ WHERE THOSE SPACES ARE. SO HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION TO 'EM? SO WHEN WE CREATE THE OTHER SPACES THAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEM, UM, YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT ON A SPREADSHEET, GIVE 'EM A SPREADSHEET, OH IT'S OVER HERE. UH, THE SYSTEM THAT THEY'VE BUILT IS EXTREMELY SMART. SO CREATING THE FRAMEWORK AND THE DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE SO THAT WE CAN SHARE THAT DATA WITH THESE COMPANIES AND THEY KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, UM, IS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES AND GOALS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT, UM, UH, LOADING ZONE INFORMATION TO THEM. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE WITHIN THEIR OWN DRIVER APPS, IT WOULD TELL THEM WHERE TO STOP AND IT WOULD DIRECT THEM TO THE SPACE OR THE CORNER THAT THEY SHOULD BE GOING TO RETRIEVE. THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. CORRECT. AND I'VE SEEN THIS IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE I'VE VISITED MANY OTHER CITIES WHERE THEY HAVE LIKE CERTAIN NAMES OF LOCATIONS, LIKE A LONGHORN WAY, YOU KNOW, STOP OVER HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE IN THAT WAY, RIGHT? UM, WHERE IT TELLS PEOPLE TO WALK TO AND THE, THE APPS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT'S AT. UM, AND SO WITH MORE COORDINATION, WITH HAVING A BETTER DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE CAN HA START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, PARTICULARLY WITH RIDE SHARE DROP OFF PICKUP, RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS, BASICALLY YOU'RE NOT WORKING WITH ONE COMPANY THAT CAN FORCE FOLKS TO DO EV EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT THEM TO DO. SO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION OUT AND THEN STARTING THAT WRAPAROUND ENFORCEMENT, I THINK WE'VE GOT A MODEL IN PLACE WITH SPECIAL EVENTS WHERE WE DO DESIGNATE, YOU KNOW, PICK UP DROP OFF ZONES OR PETTY CAB ZONES OR UH, RIGHT SCOOTER DROP-OFFS, RIGHT? WITH THE MAJOR EVENTS. AND SO I THINK WE CAN FOLLOW SOME OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING, MAYBE GET THAT MORE INTO A DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION AS OPPOSED TO ONE-OFF SPECIAL EVENT TYPE OF OPERATION. THAT IS REALLY EXCITING TO HEAR. 'CAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO USE THE SAME SPACE AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEMANDS AND EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS IN A RUSH. UM, SO IT DOES CREATE SOME, SOME DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON, YOU KNOW, SOUTH CONGRESS FOR INSTANCE, WHERE SOMEONE IS GOING TO A RESTAURANT SO THE CAR, YOU KNOW, TURNS OFF OF SOUTH CONGRESS AND THEN JUST STOPS AND THERE'S ALL THIS OTHER EITHER LEFT TURN TRAFFIC OR STRAIGHT THROUGH TRAFFIC THAT IS NOW UNABLE TO MOVE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE UNEXPECTED BEHAVIOR OF, OF THAT DRIVER. AND SO I THINK THERE'S WORKABLE SOLUTIONS HERE. IT'S NOT THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE FOOD DELIVERY AND RIDE SHARES. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD THINGS TO HAVE, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW MUCH SPACE THERE IS. SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO HEAR THAT WE COULD BE IN A PLACE WHERE, HEY, THESE PARTICULAR CORNERS AND INTERSECTIONS ARE DESIGNATED AS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE. THAT WAY THERE'S MORE PREDICTABILITY AND IT'LL EVEN SPEED UP THE PICKUP TIME 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE RIDE SHARES WAITING BEHIND OTHER RIDE SHARES. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS? NO, I THINK THAT DOES IT. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OH, AND MY COMPUTER JUST LOGGED ME OUT . SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET ON A GOOD TOPIC? I, ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. [4. Council Member Paige Ellis, and Council Member Zohaib ''Zo'' Qadri Briefing from the Urban Transportation Commission regarding actions taken at the June 2, 2026, July 7, 2026, and August 4, 2026, meetings. [Natalie Leone, Business Process Consultant - Austin Transportation and Public Works]] I THINK OUR NEXT BRIEFING IS OUR UPDATE ON THE TOPICS THAT THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TAKING UP. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, MALE PRO TEM. UM, I'M NATALIE LEONE. I'M A BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT AT TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE LAST THREE MEETINGS. UH, THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, THE COMMISSION, UH, APPROVED A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING TRANSIT ENHANCEMENTS ON THE DOG'S HEAD DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS POSTED TO BACK UP AT THE JULY 7TH MEETING. THERE WERE TWO RIGHT OF WAY VACATIONS APPROVED, UM, ONE AT EDWIN LANE AND THE OTHER AT [01:05:01] OTTS LANE. AND AT THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING THERE WAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION APPROVED REGARDING DEVELOPMENT OF A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT POLICY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS. AND THAT ONE IS ALSO POSTED TO BACKUP. OKAY, GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION? NO, I THINK THAT'LL COVER IT. THANKS NATALIE. OKAY, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THEN ITEM FIVE IS GONNA [5. Report by Austin Transportation and Public Works related to ongoing mobility programs and projects in the Central Texas region, including construction and service updates: monthly updates on the projects and operations of critical infrastructure departments. [Richard Mendoza, Director - Austin Transportation Public Works].] BE A REPORT FROM TPW RELATED TO THE ONGOING MOBILITY PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. I SEE WE HAVE DEPUTY DIRECTOR DALE HERE. HI. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR. GOOD. A, UH, NOON. I'M MAYOR PROAM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND JUST WANTED, I'M, UM, JIM DALE, I'M DEPUTY DIRECTOR, SERVING AS DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS AND VERY HONORED TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE, UM, FUN THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND REALLY, UM, CHANGING OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO THE FIRST THING, UM, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IS, UM, OUR PARTNERS OVER AT, UM, THE AIRPORT AND ESPECIALLY THIS, UM, FIRST ONE HERE IS WITH DELTA AIRLINES. UM, THEY'RE LAUNCHING THEIR FIRST EVER TRANSATLANTIC ROUTE FROM AUSTIN TO PARIS. THAT'S GONNA BE IN MARCH 27TH, 2027. AND IT'S REALLY SOME GOOD WORK THAT, UM, DIRECTOR OVER THERE GHISLAINE HAS BEEN DOING WITH HER AND HER TEAM. AND WE'RE CONNECTING AUSTIN MORE THAN JUST CONNECTING PEOPLE AROUND AUSTIN. WE THINK A LOT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT ALSO BEYOND, UM, ALSO SOME OTHER WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE. AND JUST PLANNING FOR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP. THEY'RE COMPLETING A PARKING GARAGE EARLY SO THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL PARKING DISPLACEMENT THAT WILL BE OCCURRING WITH OTHER CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH, UM, LESS IMPACT ON THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE PARKING AT THE AIRPORT. AND THEN LASTLY, FOR THE AIRPORT, UM, THE CAYMAN AIR AIRWAYS IS EXPANDING. ITS NONSTOP SERVICE TO GRAND CAYMAN. UM, AND AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE CONNECTING AUSTIN KNIGHTS, NOT ONLY HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT UM, BEYOND. THE NEXT THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS AN EFFORT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. I THINK WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING ON I 35. BE STARTING UP WITH PROJECT CONNECT. WE HAVE A LOT OF MOBILITY PROJECTS AROUND TOWN THERE OCCURRING TOO. AND SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS PARTNERS, UM, WE'RE CELEBRATING THE LAUNCH OF CTX GO. IT'S AN APP, UH, LAUNCH ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, IS WHAT WE'RE TARGETING THE DATE WE'RE TARGETING RIGHT NOW. AND WHAT THAT WILL DO IS IT'S BEEN AN EFFORT BETWEEN TXDOT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIPS, C-T-R-M-A, UM, CAMPO AND CAPITAL METRO AS WELL. BUT IS TO GET ALL OF OUR LANE CLOSURE INFORMATION IN ONE DATABASE SO WE CAN SHARE THAT OUT WITH THE PUBLIC IN ADVANCE OF CLOSURES THAT OCCUR SO THAT THEY CAN ROUTE AROUND THAT TRAFFIC BEFORE THEY LEAVE THEIR, UM, BEFORE THEY START THEIR TRIP. SO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON LANE CLOSURES. IT'S ALSO GONNA PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AS WELL AS TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT OPTIONS. WE REALLY SEE THIS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, WITH THE IMPACTS WE'RE GONNA SEE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TO, UM, OFFER OPTIONS TO OTHER, TO PEOPLE WHO MAY NORMALLY TAKE A CAR TO BE ABLE TO TAKE, TAKE THE BUS, UM, BE ABLE TO MAYBE TRY SOME OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, MOS OF TRANSPORTATION WE SEE HERE EMERGING IN, IN AUSTIN DURING THIS TIME. ALRIGHT, ONE OF THE, OUR TOP PRIORITY SAFETY. AND THEN ON CAMERON ROAD. UM, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT REAL QUICK THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, UH, CRASH REDUCTION THERE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH, UM, UM, BOND DOLLARS. BUT REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT THIS IS SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THAT, UM, LEWIS HAD ORIGINALLY STARTED IN OUR DEPARTMENT AND NOW CARRIED ON, UM, BY JOEL. AND THAT IS THAT WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A 46% REDUCTION ALSO IN, UM, AMBULANCE RESPONSES TO THIS AREA OF TOWN. IT'S SOME DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING CLOSER IN, 'CAUSE WE KNOW THOSE COMPREHENSIVE COSTS FOR THESE CRASHES GO WELL BEYOND JUST WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT CRASH AND CAPTURING THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, VERY IMPORTANT FINDING THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THESE CRASH REDUCTIONS ARE HAVING, UM, LARGER IMPACTS, UM, ON OUR ORGANIZATION AND REDUCING OUR COSTS. RIGHT. UM, THE EAST BREAKER LANE EXTENSION, WE'RE ALSO BUILDING ROADS. WE DO A LOT TO, UM, CONNECTING, UM, PEOPLE THROUGH SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, UM, WHETHER YOU'RE WALKING, BIKING, ROLLING, UM, TO GET TO PLACES, UH, URBAN TRAILS. UM, BUT WE ARE ALSO BUILDING ROADS HERE, UM, AS [01:10:01] SHOWN BY THE EAST BREAKER LANE EXTENSION. UM, WE, ON WAS AUGUST 7TH THAT WE HAD A, UM, RIBBON CUTTING, UM, FOR THE CELEBRATION OF THAT EAST BREAKER LAND EXTENSION INTO EAST AUSTIN. AND THEN ALSO, UM, WE'RE BUILDING OUT OUR URBAN TRAIL NETWORK AND ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IS THE MOAN TRAIL, UM, PROJECT IN EAST AUSTIN. AND, UM, WORKING ON PLACING A, A BRIDGE THERE AGAIN TO CONNECT MORE OF AUSTIN TO THINGS THAT ENRICH THEIR LIVES, WHETHER IT'S RECREATION, JOBS, EDUCATION, UM, SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS. AND JUST A COUPLE OF MORE HERE, A NEW SIGNAL THAT WE INSTALLED AT CESAR CHAVEZ AND CHALMERS, UM, AVENUE. IT'S A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEDESTRIAN CYCLISTS, UM, TO CROSS THE STREET. UM, WE HAD A RIBBON COMING FOR THAT. AND THEN, UM, NEW SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PLACED OUT ON AMHERST DRIVE AND DUVAL ROAD IN NORTH AUSTIN. UM, AND REALLY FROM THESE SAFETY PROJECTS WHERE WE SEE WHERE WE INVEST, WE'RE SEEING 30%, SOMETIMES 70% REDUCTION IN CRASHES. AND SO WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO ALSO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE SUPPORT ON PREVIOUS BONDS THAT HAVE ALLOWED US TO DO THIS WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND WITHOUT Y'ALL'S SUPPORT, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, UM, CREATE THOSE RESULTS FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, AND THAT DOES IT. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S GREAT. OBVIOUSLY A VERY BUSY DEPARTMENT GETTING GOOD THINGS DONE. UH, QUESTION FROM MAYOR PROM VELA, JUST A, A COMMENT IS, UH, ANECDOTALLY FROM THE CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE, THE CAMERON ADESA, UH, CHANGES ARE, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, A VERY WELL RECEIVED. UH, THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME DURING CONSTRUCTION, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE HEADACHE, UH, ESPECIALLY THAT CORNER OF, UH, ROMBERG AND, UH, CAMERON, UH, RIGHT THERE WAS A REAL HEADACHE. UH, BUT SINCE THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN FINALIZED, UH, I, I THINK THERE'S RELATIVELY SPEAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSAL, UH, SUPPORT. THE, THE STREET IS, UH, FLOWING BETTER. UH, AVERAGE SPEEDS ARE DOWN, UH, UH, CRASHES AND, AND, AND INJURIES ARE DOWN. IT JUST IN GENERAL A, A, A REALLY, UH, SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO, TO THANK Y'ALL AND FOR THE, THE GOOD WORK AND FOR MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. AND I KNOW THAT WAS MOSTLY GRANT FUNDED. THAT WAS A, A BIG, UH, A VISION ZERO, UH, GRANT THAT WAS, UH, THAT WE GOT FROM, UH, THE FEDS. SO AGAIN, I JUST THINK THAT'S A, A HUGE WIN FOR, FOR THAT PART OF AUSTIN FOR A VERY DANGEROUS ROADWAY. AND AGAIN, JUST, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S WORK ON THAT. UM, AND ALSO VERY GLAD TO GET THE, THE, THE 32 MILLION OF, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION IN THERE. UH, SO THAT TRANSPORTATION KEEP DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S GOOD WORK. IT'S, UH, IT'S REDUCING INJURIES, UH, IT'S, UH, REDUCING CRASHES, IT'S SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES. AND, UH, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE CONTINUE OUR KIND OF, UH, SLOW BUT STEADY, UH, WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTION, MINOR SECTION CORRIDOR BY CORRIDOR. SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU MAYOR PERTON. TIM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? DOES NOT APPEAR. SO THANKS DEPUTY DIRECTOR. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BRIEFINGS BY MEMO THAT HAVE BEEN LISTED IN THE BACKUP, SO BE SURE TO CHECK THOSE OUT IF YOU WANNA SEE EVEN MORE STUFF THAT TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER [6. Identify items to be discussed at future meetings.] SIX IS IDENTIFY ITEMS TO BE DISCUSSED AT FUTURE MEETINGS. SO FAR OUR TEMPLATE FOR OCTOBER LOOKS LIKE THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE TAKEOFF AND LANDING CONVERSATION, EAST 51ST STREET MOBILITY AND SOME ETOD BRIEFINGS BY MEMO. AND THEN IN NOVEMBER WE'LL TAKE UP THE ACT PLAN, SHORT TERM MULTIMODAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND POTENTIALLY SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND METRO BIKE OR THE STREET IMPACT FEE STUDY UPDATE. SO WE, WE HAVE A LONG LIST, UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO FLAG ANYTHING THEY WANNA ADD. UM, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 10 ITEMS ON THE FUTURE LIST THAT GO BEYOND DECEMBER. SO, UM, FEEL FREE TO EITHER DAYLIGHT THEM NOW OR LET US KNOW BEHIND THE SCENES IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. SURE. I MEAN, JUST, UM, I GUESS WE'LL, DAYLIGHT THIS, UM, AVS THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. THEY'RE STILL HERE. THERE'S EVEN MORE, THERE'S EVEN MORE EVERY DAY. YEAH, THEY'RE GROWING. UM, BUT JUST HAVING AN UPDATE ON THE GEOFENCING NEEDS AND JUST THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE AV COMPANIES AND OUR PUBLIC, UH, PUB, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. SORRY, PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES NOT SERVICE. WE GOT YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 2:18 PM I THINK THAT'S A NEW RECORD. SO GREAT JOB ON ALL OF THE GREAT INFORMATION WE WERE PRESENTED TODAY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.