* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] YEAH. TWO 16. [CALL TO ORDER ] OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCNABB PRESENT. COMMISSIONER DIAZ PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BYRD? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CURRY? HERE. COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ. COMMISSIONER LIBEL. COMMISSIONER COURT. COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. HERE. COMMISSIONER STANLEY. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. PRESENT. OKAY. RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. THIS WILL BE HOPEFULLY A RELATIVELY QUICK MEETING, BUT, UM, ANYWAY, NOBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. OKAY. SO WE WILL TURN TO THE MINUTES [1. Approve the minutes of the Bond Oversight Commission Regular meeting on June 17, 2026. ] AND I KNOW YOU ALL MIGHT, DID YOU SEND OUT THE MINUTES AHEAD? I DID. YOU DID? OKAY. 'CAUSE I COULDN'T FIND THEM, SO, OH, I SENT THEM TODAY, EARLIER TODAY. OH, OKAY. I MIGHT'VE MISSED THAT THEN. MIGHT'VE BEEN ALREADY ON THE ROAD. OKAY. RATE HOPE. HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS, DELETIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. ALRIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND. SO, ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. ALRIGHT, IT'S UNANIMOUS. WE'LL MOVE ON BACK HERE. ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ONE IS A, [2. Staff briefing regarding 2016, 2018 and 2020 Bond Program Report. Presentation by Austin Capital Delivery Services Staff.] FOR THE STAFF BRIEFINGS. WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE UPCOMING GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND SALE. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? NO. EXCUSE ME, IN THE MINUTES. SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT. STAFF BRIEFING ON THE 20 16 20 18 AND 2020 BOND PROGRAM REPORT. AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL, SPECIAL PERSON HERE TO DO THAT. ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS. MM-HMM . MARCUS HAMMER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES. PLEASURE TO BE HERE. UM, GOOD TO HAVE YOU SEE IF I CAN GET MY CLICKER GOING THROUGH HERE. YEAH, THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY. ALL RIGHT. DOESN'T GO BACK. ARE YOU RUNNING IT? HOW ARE WE RUNNING THIS LIGHT? OKAY. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN IT ON YOUR, ON THE CLICKER YOU NEED TO, IS THE LEFT ONE NOT WORKING? OKAY, NOW IT'S WORKING. THERE. THERE WE GO. OKAY. OKAY. HAPPY TO BE HERE. WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE TODAY, UM, ON THE, A FEW BOND PROGRAMS. SO 2016 THROUGH 2022. UM, WE, UM, WILL NOT PRESENT ON THE 2006 TO 2013, I THINK LAST TIME WE MENTIONED AT THE APRIL, UH, PRESENTATION THAT THOSE ARE ALL SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. SO REALLY WE'RE JUST GONNA LOOK FORWARD TO THE, THE LARGER SCALE PROGRAMS THAT ARE STILL OUT THERE. SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE FOUR BOND PROGRAMS FROM 16 TO 22. OKAY. SO IF WE JUMP TO OUR NEXT SLIDE HERE, UM, THIS IS SORT OF THE HIGHLIGHT AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS. YOU CAN SEE THAT IN TOTAL THERE'S FOUR BOND PROGRAMS HERE. WE HAVE THE 16 TRANSPORTATION, THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE BOND, THE 2020 TRANSPORTATION BOND, AND THE 2022 AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND. AND IF YOU GO TO THAT FIRST COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THROUGH ALL THOSE DOLLARS WE HAVE APPROPRIATED ROUGHLY $2.5 BILLION WORTH OF FUNDS. UM, TO DATE, 1.9 HAS BEEN OBLIGATED. AND IF YOU JUMP OVER TO THE NEXT COLUMN, THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY 500 MILLION UNOBLIGATED STILL WITH ROUGHLY 80% OF THE FUNDS OBLIGATED TO DATE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, OUR GOAL OF 90% OBLIGATED WOULD BE ROUGHLY 2027. AS YOU CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THE COLUMNS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SPENT, WE'VE WE'RE AT 1.69, UM, OR ROUGHLY 69% SPIN OUT WITH ANTICIPATION OF OVERALL BOND PROGRAM SPENDING AT, IN THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2028. SO FROM THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT IT COLLECTIVELY ALL THE WAY ACROSS, YOU KNOW, 2016 IS THE 2028 90% SPIN, 28, UH, THE 2018 IS ALSO 2028. 2020 IS 2028. AND THEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS, UH, SCHEDULED OUT FOR 2030 FOR A COMPLETION. SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE CAN JUMP TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE CAN KIND OF DIVE INTO THESE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. I, I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. HOW MANY OF THESE INVOLVE THE, THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS WHEN THEY APPROVED THE BONDS? I THINK 2018 IS, WAS THAT CONTRACT WITH THE VOTER? I THINK IT WAS, YEAH, 2018 WAS WHEN THE OFFICIAL CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS WAS ESTABLISHED AS, AS PART OF THE BOND ELECTION. OKAY. THE OTHERS WERE JUST, UM, THE GENERAL AMOUNTS [00:05:01] WERE, WERE APPROVED DURING THE ELECTION, BUT THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC CONTRACT. OKAY. THANKS. THEN FROM A HIGH LEVEL, YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT, AS WE DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE 2016 TRANSPORTATION BOND, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WERE THREE SUBCATEGORIES. THERE WAS THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM, THE REGIONAL MOBILITY, AND THE LOCAL MOBILITY. UM, FOR $720 MILLION IN THAT BOND PROGRAM TO DATE, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE LOCAL MOBILITY HAS ALREADY REACHED THE 90% OBLIGATION AND SPENT, UM, WITH AN ANTICIPATION FOR THIS BOND PROGRAM ALSO BEING SPENT OUT BY 2028. SO, UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY FOR CORRIDOR PROGRAM AT 65% AND THE REGIONAL MOBILITY AT 77% SPENT WITH AN ANTICIPATION OF RESPECTIVELY 2028 AND THEN 2027. SO, UM, AS YOU LOOK INTO THESE PROGRAMS A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, UM, WE CAN START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS THAT ARE STILL, UM MM-HMM AND, AND FUND BALANCE. SO FOR THIS, FOR JUST AN EXAMPLE, YOU THE, WE PULLED SOME OF THESE STRAIGHT OUT FOR THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SOUTH LAMAR, UH, MONTCLAIR TO BARTON SPRINGS, THERE WAS $24 MILLION APPROPRIATED FOR IT, AND THEY STILL HAVE 24 MILLION SITTING THERE OUT THERE TO BE SPENT. BUT THAT PROJECT'S CURRENTLY SOUTH TOMORROW, US 90 TO, TO MONTCLAIR STREET. AND THAT THE OTHER PHASE, UM, THEY STILL HAVE 17 MILLION ROUGHLY OUT THERE, UM, AS FAR AS IN THEIR BALANCE. BUT AGAIN, YOU CAN WALK DOWN THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE AND YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE OF HOW MUCH MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S EITHER TIED UP IN DESIGN ROUTE NOW OR PROJECT IN CONSTRUCTION THAT COULD BE SPENT OUT HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A NICE METHODOLOGY TO AT LEAST LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS FROM A HIGHER LEVEL AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT STATUS THEY'RE IN. AND KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I, I KNOW OUT, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY THE CORRIDOR PROJECTS INVOLVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS MM-HMM . AND AGENCIES AND, AND THAT DOESN'T MM-HMM . BUREAUCRACY GETS IN THE WAY. RIGHT. SO, UM, AND THEN AS WE JUMP INTO THE 20 18 1 CLICK, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE 2018 COMPREHENSIVE BOND, IT WAS ACTUALLY SEVEN PROPOSITIONS THAT WERE, WERE EQUIVALENT OF $925 MILLION IN TOTAL MM-HMM . SO TO DATE, UM, ALL THE GREEN CHECK MARKS ARE THE DIFFERENT PROPOSITIONS THAT HAVE MET THE 90% SPEND, UM, OR 90% OBLIGATION. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE OVERALL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, THE APPROXIMATELY A 2028 SPEND OUT ON THAT ONE AS WELL. SO, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT IF, IF YOU'RE REALLY GONNA DIVE INTO THESE, AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK AT 2018 AND THERE'S REALLY JUST A HANDFUL OF PROJECTS THAT ARE SORT OF HOLDING UP THIS BIGGER OVERALL SPIN TO GET THAT, THAT BOND COMPLETE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS IS, UM, I WOULD SAY THE PROPOSITION TWO, THE LIBRARIES, THE CULTURAL ARTS AND MUSEUMS PROP . SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOHERTY AND THE ME CARTE MUSEUM COLLECTIVELY BETWEEN THOSE, YOU'RE TALKING $40 MILLION THAT'S ON HOLD. AND YOU COULD NEVER GET TO A 90% SPEND ON PROPOSITION TWO ON THAT, ON THAT ONE UNLESS YOU GO FIND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. RIGHT. THEY'RE BOTH UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE SORT OF, KIND OF, YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHAT DEFINE UNDER REVIEW, RIGHT? SO WELL WE'RE, WE'RE ANALYZING, UH, THE, THE NEXT APPROACH WITH THOSE, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT WE'RE SHORT ON THE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE NEXT PATH FORWARD FOR 'EM, BUT TO DATE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE STATUS WITH THOSE. AND THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT THAT 90% COMPLETE, YOU COULD NEVER GET THERE BECAUSE THOSE TWO PROJECTS WOULD HOLD YOU BACK AND KEEP YOU ROUGHLY AT 70% FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROPOSITION. SO YEAH, YOU'D HAVE TO COME TO A PLACE WHERE YOU'VE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD AND FIND ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, OR YOU HOLD THE ENTIRE BOND PROGRAM IN GENERAL. SO, YEAH. UM, SAME THING WITH TBW, RIGHT? BARTON SPRINGS ROAD BRIDGE, IT'S ANOTHER LARGE PROJECT, $26 MILLION PROJECT SITTING IN DESIGN. NOTHING'S BEEN SPIN OUT ON IT. SO AGAIN, BUT THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO TRY TO MONITOR AND TRACK AND KIND OF LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS FROM A HIGH LEVEL PERSPECTIVE. YEAH. YES, SIR. UH, A QUESTION WHEN COUNCIL, I THINK CHANGED THE FINANCIAL POLICY ON WHEN YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION, AND THEY, UM, I JUST HEARD PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND DIDN'T FOLLOW THE WHOLE THING, UM, FORTUNATELY, DON'T NO LONGER PAID TO SIT THROUGH COUNCIL MEETINGS. , UM, DIDN'T THEY COME UP WITH A FORMULA FOR, UM, EX SAYING YOU COULD HAVE ANOTHER BOND ELECTION BY EXEMPTING SOME OF THE PROJECTS LIKE THESE THAT ARE RIGHT. SO THEY, THEY WENT A LITTLE BIT LIMBO BIT DEEPER EVEN TO THE PROPOSITION OF GOING INTO THE PROGRAMMATIC, THE, THE SUBCATEGORIES OF A PROPOSITION SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU LIKE T W'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF LIKE, OKAY, IF YOU FINISH WITH SIDEWALKS, THEN POTENTIALLY YOU COULD GO OUT FOR A NEW SIDEWALK OR MOBILITY TYPE OF PROJECTS BASED ON THAT. SO THEY, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE NEW POLICY. THEY WENT JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN EVEN JUST THE PROPOSITION AND THAT WAS FINALLY ADOPTED. CORRECT. THE BUDGET PROCESS. YES, SIR. [00:10:01] THANKS. UM, AND THEN AS WE LOOK INTO 2020 TRANSPORTATION BOND, AGAIN, THE FARTHER WE MOVE ALONG, OF COURSE, THE MORE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT SHOULD BE SITTING IN DESIGN AND KIND OF GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? THIS IS ONE OF OUR LATEST TRANSPORTATION BONDS. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, AGAIN, TOTAL OF $460 MILLION, BUT THIS IS THE NINE SUBCATEGORIES WITHIN THIS, JUST THIS ONE BOND PROGRAM, CORRECT? RIGHT. MM-HMM . SO WE WERE TALKING, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM 40 MILLION FOR BIKEWAYS DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, URBAN TRAILS AT 80 MILLION, ET CETERA. IF YOU WALK DOWN, IT'S A TOTALING OF FOUR, $460 MILLION. AGAIN, IF YOU COULD JUMP TO THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN, YOU CAN SEE THE 90% SPEND OUTS A MAJORITY. THESE ARE IN THE 2028 PHASES FOR, FOR COMPLETION. UM, AND THEN WITH AN OVERALL TOTAL OF 2028, BUT AGAIN, RIGHT NOW TO DATE, YOU CAN SEE THAT SAFE ROUTES AND SIDEWALKS ARE ONCE WITH THE GREEN CHECK MARKS THAT HAVE HIT THE 90% OBLIGATION FOR THIS SPECIFIC BOND PROGRAM. SO, AND THEN I, I HAD A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS, I THINK THERE WAS SOME BACK AND FORTH THE LAST TIME WE MET AROUND, UH, SOME OF THAT'S BEEN GOING TOWARDS SCHOOLS THAT WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLOSED. AND, UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY RESOLUTION ON THAT FRONT. I, I THINK AT THE TIME IT, IT DIDN'T SOUND OPTIMISTIC, BUT I FIGURED IT'D BE WORTH ASKING THE QUESTION. I'M NOT. I CAN CONNECT WITH TPW AND WE CAN GET A RESPONSE BACK TO YOU GUYS IN THE EMAIL, IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, THAT'D BE FINE. OKAY. I'LL TRACK THAT DOWN. YEAH, THERE WAS A THERE WAS AN ITEM THERE, BUT GOOD, GOOD CATCH, ZACH. OKAY. YEAH. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, I GET THE EMAIL. I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OPEN QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I'M MISSING IT OR, OR IF I GOT LEFT OFF THE DISTRO LIST OR WHAT HAPPENED, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF IT'S HELPFUL, I CAN DROP MY, MY EMAIL IN THE, INTO THE, THE CHAT HERE. UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO I BELIEVE NICOLE HAS THAT. UM, SO WE CAN, WE'LL JUST GO BACK AND WHEN WE RESPOND, WE'LL RESPOND, RESPOND BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION. YES. COMMISSIONER BUR, SO, OKAY. I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. QUESTION THE, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THESE THAT ARE NOT, UH, ESTIMATED TO BE 90% SPENT TO 2029. UH, BUT AT THE BOTTOM, UH, IT'S THE TOTAL IS 2028. HOW'S, HOW'S THAT CALCULATED? JUST WELL, YOU WOULD JUST TAKE, YEAH, YOU TAKE THE AVERAGE OF THE, ALL OF THE BUDGETS, 90% OF THE WHOLE BOND WILL BE SPENT BETWEEN THREE. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. LET'S SEE HERE. SO AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME OF THE 2020 TRANSPORTATION BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE FROM A HIGHER LEVEL, UM, KIND OF SITTING OUT THERE. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE SOME ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, SOME ARE IN DESIGN, BUT PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND LET'S SEE, ROUGHLY, IT'S GETTING TOO SMALL FOR MY OWN EYES, I SEE THIS. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT EASILY $40 MILLION TIED UP RIGHT HERE OF PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN ON THIS ONE. SO AGAIN, BIG DOLLARS THAT ARE TIED UP THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET MOVING FORWARD HERE IN THE SHORT TERM. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE 2022 BOND WAS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THIS ONE, THAT, UM, WE HAVE THIS ONE SHOWING OUT AT 2030, UH, FOR AN OVERALL COMPLETION DATE. UH, THE ONE THAT IS TIED UP, UH, OR BEING EXPENSED MORE QUICKLY IS THE, THE BOTTOM COLUMN, WHICH IS THEIR HOME REPAIR. THEY HAVE THAT ONE SCHEDULED OUT FOR 2028, BUT THEN FOR THEIR, UM, I WOULD SAY THEIR, THEIR ROTA, THEIR OWNERSHIP HOME PROGRAM AND THEIR LAND ACQUISITION, THOSE ARE ALL PUSHED OUT WITH THEIR SPEND PLANS OUT UNTIL 2030. THE LAND LAND ACQUISITION IS GONNA, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TRAILER. MM-HMM . AND AGAIN, HERE, JUST SOME OF THEIR KEY PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE EITHER RECENTLY COMPLETED, THEY HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN MONITORING AND WALKING THROUGH. BUT AGAIN, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THESE MM-HMM . SOME OF THESE LARGER ONES, $16 MILLION, $7 MILLION FOR SEABROOK SQUARE, UH, AND RN POINT OVER OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE BIT. WE'LL, WE WILL, WE'LL KIND OF CONTINUE TO ADD TO THESE AND, AND KEEP TRACK OF SOME ADDITIONAL ONES THAT COME ON AS WELL COME ONLINE. SO, [00:15:01] ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEP. AND THEN FOR SOME EXCITING NEWS, WE HAVE, UM, A NEW REPORTING STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE, HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON. SO THE AUSTIN BOND DASHBOARD IS, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. WE, IT WILL BE COMING SOON. UM, THAT WILL BE BEING PUSHED OUT LIVE. SO WE'RE THINKING FIRST QUARTER OF FFY 2027, YOU WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE, UM, THIS NEW DASHBOARD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS THE PUBLIC MM-HMM . ANYBODY CAN GO TO AND REALLY LOOK AT IT FROM A TRANSPARENT STANDPOINT. UM, WHERE IS THE BOND SPENDING HAPPENING? UM, FROM THE HOMEPAGE? YOU COULD ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THERE. YOU COULD EXPLORE BY, YOU KNOW, BOND PROGRAMS BY THE YEAR. YOU COULD EXPLORE BY, YOU KNOW, BY BOND BOND PROPOSITIONS. YOU COULD DO A SEARCH JUST ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. UM, SO WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC, UM, NOT ONLY FOR US AS WE'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS AND TRACKING AND MONITORING, BUT FOR THE COMMISSION FOR THE PUBLIC AS, AS WELL, UM, FROM A TRANSPARENCY, TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT. BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT, UM, FINANCIAL INFORMATION THERE. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK LIKE PROJECT STATUSES, WHETHER IT'S WHERE IT'S ADDED IN DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION OR COMPLETE. UM, SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILED PROJECT INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN BOND FUNDED AND EXACTLY WHERE IT'S AT IN ITS CURRENT PHASE. SO, AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WILL BE COMING OUT IN THE FIRST QUARTER, WHICH WILL MIMIC A LOT OF, UM, THE DATA THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER FROM THE DASHBOARD HERE. SO THAT'LL BE, UH, AN EXCITING THING THAT'LL BE COMING OUT AS WELL. SO, STEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD ON THAT? SURE. AND I KNOW THIS COMMISSION'S BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN THE DASHBOARD. I MEAN, I'D SAY GOING BACK THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO ROLL SOMETHING OUT THAT GIVES YOU THAT VISIBILITY AT A HIGH LEVEL MM-HMM . ABILITY TO DRILL DOWN. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WITHIN 30 DAYS OF GOING LIVE. SO, UM, CERTAINLY NEXT TIME WE MEET AS A COMMISSION, WE'D PROBABLY BE ABLE TO, UM, GIVE A DEMO OF THAT. I MEAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU THE LINKS AND EVERYTHING OKAY. UM, OFFLINE. BUT THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ONE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN, LIKE MARCUS MENTIONED, WE ARE ALSO DEVELOPING IN LINE WITH THAT, UM, REALTIME DASHBOARD, A FIXED QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER AND PROVIDE TO CITY LEADERSHIP TO COUNCIL, UM, CERTAINLY TO THIS COMMISSION. IT WILL BE, UM, SIMILAR TO THE INFORMATION YOU JUST GOT IN THE QUARTERLY BOND REPORT FOR 20, UM, 2016 THROUGH 2022, BUT IT WILL INCLUDE BONDS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2006. UM, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A SNAPSHOT ONCE A QUARTER, BUT IT'LL SUMMARIZE THE INFORMATION. UM, IT'S A FORMAT THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER CITIES AROUND THE STATE, AND WE THINK, UM, IT'LL BE WELL RECEIVED HERE TOO. SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO ROLL BOTH OF THOSE PRODUCTS OUT, AND I THINK YOU'LL THAT'S GREAT. YOU'LL BE, UM, HAPPY WITH THE, THE RESULTS. YEAH. HOW WILL THAT, UM, TIE OR RELATE TO THE QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORT THAT THE CITY DOES? IT, IT WON'T DIRECTLY TIE, IT'LL BE A STANDALONE DOCUMENT. UM, I, I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT, UM, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT PRODUCES IN THEIR QUARTERLY, UM, CAPITAL SPENDING REPORT MM-HMM . CORRELATES WITH WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT ON THE, THE PROJECT SIDE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DIRECTLY LINKED. UH, THERE'LL BE TWO ONES FROM A, A FINANCIAL AND CAPITAL STANDPOINT OR EMPHASIS. THE OTHER ONE'S GONNA BE ON THE PROJECT, UM, DELIVERY ASPECT. ADRIANA CASTANEDA, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT, UM, BOTH OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE DASHBOARD AND THE QUARTERLY REPORTS, THE INFORMATION WILL BE PULLED OUT OF OUR EENT, WHICH IS, UM, OUR, WHAT IS IT? OUR, OUR FINANCIAL RECORD. SO THE INFORMATION SHOULD EVENTUALLY TIED TO AN EXTENT. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I CLARIFY THAT. AND THE OTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION IS, AS WE DEVELOP THESE, UM, ARE WE STILL USING, UM, BENCHMARKS WHEN UH, DEPARTMENTS HAVE CAPITAL PROJECTS? DO THEY ESTABLISH A PLAN, UH, THAT BEFORE THEY, THAT GOES INTO THE CIP THAT HAS BENCHMARKS WHEN THEY EXPECT TO HIT MM-HMM . FINISH DESIGN WHEN THEY, YOU'RE TALKING 30, 60, 90, PUTTING THOSE YES. YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO CITY, THE CITY IS STILL USING THAT. WE ACTUALLY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS JUST THE OTHER DAY OF MAYBE LOOKING AT HOW COULD YOU, WE DO A LITTLE BIT MORE TO ENHANCE SOME OF THAT. SO, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S COLLABORATED IN E CAPRI, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT. THE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I BELIEVE BELIEVE THAT THIS COMMISSION IS SPECIFICALLY TASKED, UH, WITH, IS LOOKING AT THE WHY QUESTION. SO IF PROJECTS ARE BEHIND, WHY ARE THEY BEHIND, OR WHAT PART, WHAT PART OF THE PROJECT IS IT THAT'S CAUSING PROJECTS TO BE DESIGNED, YOU KNOW, TO BE BEHIND. AND SO WE CAN TAKE AN OVERVIEW ACROSS [00:20:01] THE SYSTEM AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PARTICULAR, THERE'S A PARTICULAR PIECE OF OUR PROCESS THAT'S SLOWING THINGS DOWN MM-HMM . FOR ACROSS PROJECTS OR FOR A LOT OF PROJECTS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF IT'S PERMITTING THROUGH DESIGN OR IF IT'S ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION. EXACTLY. BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE HIGHER LEVEL, MOST ARE THE KIND OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO MAKE TO COUNCIL THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT SEEMS TO BE CAUSING THE CAPITAL PROGRAM A PROBLEM. UM, HOW WILL WE GET TO THAT? HOW WILL WE GET TO THE WHY? WELL, I'M MEAN, I HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT I THINK FIRST, FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THE, ONE OF THE IMPORTANT TOOLS IS JUST LIKE THE DASHBOARD, RIGHT? IT'S GETTING A TOOL IN PLACE MM-HMM . WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME SORT OF MONITORING AND SYSTEM OF RECORD, AND THEN TAKING THAT, THAT RECORD, AND THEN LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, ACTUALLY STARTING TO COMB THROUGH IT AND HAVING A, UH, A REVIEW OF THOSE AND SAYING, OKAY, HEY, THESE ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. EVERYTHING'S GOING WELL, OKAY. HEY, THESE ARE MAYBE IN A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE. OR THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF IN THE RED AND WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING WITH THOSE. BUT LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, I THINK IT'S THOSE, WE CAN START TO ANALYZE THOSE MILESTONES THEN AND BE LIKE, OKAY, HEY, HERE'S THE TREND THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE WITH THESE, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS RECORD AND THIS, THIS METHODOLOGY TO GO THROUGH AND START TO ANALYZE THAT DATA. SO THE, THE DASHBOARD IS GONNA HAVE MILESTONES IN IT, NOT AT, NOT AT THIS POINT. UH, THE INTENT OF THE QUARTERLY REPORTS IS ALSO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE CRITICAL PROJECTS WHERE WE NEED TO SAY, HEY, EVERYTHING IS GOING FINE, BUT IF WE DON'T REACH THIS MILESTONE BY SO AND SO DATE, THAT'S WHEN WE NEED, NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, DISCUSSING AND HOW ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO REPORT IT. SO STAY TUNED. SO YEAH, I, I KNOW THAT YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU TALKED TO THE B TIFF THAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS OF, UM, IMPROVING REPORTING AND TRANSPARENCY, ET CETERA. UM, HAS THE OLD CAPRI SYSTEM FINALLY BEEN GIVEN A SOLEMN BURIAL ? IT'S, OR IT STILL THERE? IT'S STILL NOT ANYTIME SOON, BUT, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS MAYBE WAS TRYING TO ENHANCE THAT BECAUSE AN EP YOU CAN PUT SCHEDULE MILESTONES IN THERE, AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE, LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE JUST THAT METHODOLOGY OF GETTING TO THAT POINT. AND IN THAT SYSTEM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, CAN YOU DO A SEARCH BY MILESTONES? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO A SEARCH, IF YOU CAN QUERY IT THAT WAY. SO WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, BOTH E CAPRI AND IN THE NEW REPORTS WE'RE GONNA BE ROLLING OUT, WE CAN GENERATE REPORTS THAT SHOW WHERE PROJECTS ARE BY, UM, PHASE, SO MM-HMM . WHETHER A PROJECT, HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE IN DESIGN IN CONSTRUCTION, IN POST CONSTRUCTION, UM, WHAT I, TO SHOW HOW MANY HAVE MIGRATED FROM THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING IS, SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT BUILT INTO THESE REPORTS. NOW, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ROLLING THESE OUT FOR TRANSPARENCY. UM, OUR DEPARTMENT'S ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PROJECT CONTROLS PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY GONNA BE ONE OF 'EM. WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON ESTABLISHING PROJECT BASELINES AND THE MILESTONES YOU TALK ABOUT ARE GONNA BE ESTABLISHED. THE, THE OPTIMAL, UM, SET OF PROJECTS THAT WE COULD USE OR AS PILOT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, WHAT COMES OUT OF A NEW BOND, WHETHER IT'S 20 26, 20 28, BUT WHEN YOU'RE STARTING FRESH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DEFINE THOSE UPFRONT FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PIPELINE'S. MORE OF A CHALLENGE TO GO BACK AND YEAH. ESTABLISH WHAT THAT NOTIONAL BASELINE MAY HAVE BEEN. BUT FOR ANY NEW STARTS, WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE THINGS DEFINED UPFRONT. WELL, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE CIP WAS BASED ON, UH, THE MILESTONES IN CAPRI. SO IN THE S THE CP THAT'S IN THE BUDGET, IT SAYS THAT THIS, THIS WE'RE APPROPRIATING THIS MUCH THIS YEAR AND PLAN TO DO THIS MUCH THIS YEAR AND THIS YEAR PLANS, CORRECT? YES. BUT THE SPENDING PLAN I THOUGHT WAS ALSO BASED ON, UH, WHAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE PROJECTING THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT. YES. YES, THEY ARE. AND THAT IS NOT THEIR PROJECTION. IS THAT CAPTURED IN CAPRI? IT IS, BUT I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE PAID ATTENTION TO OVER, OVER THE YEARS THAT SPEND PLANS ARE UPDATED ANNUALLY MM-HMM . SO IT WOULD BE, UM, I THINK VALUABLE TO COMPARE A HISTORIC SPEND PLAN AGAINST A CURRENT SPEND PLAN FOR A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR FIVE OR SIX YEARS. YEAH. AND SEE IF THINGS MIGRATED. THE SPEND PLAN THAT THE CAPITAL PROGRAMS BASED ON, THAT YOU'VE JUST MENTIONED [00:25:01] IS BASED ON THAT CURRENT FIVE YEAR PROJECTION. SO THAT WILL ADJUST. SO IT'S, IT'S A MOVING TARGET, AND IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO FIX THAT WHEN THEY DO, WHEN THEY, UH, DO THEIR REVISED CURRENT PROJECTION, DOES THAT DESTROY THE PROJECTION THEY DID AT THE BEGINNING? YEAH. IT, IT SUPPLANT, IT OR SUPERSEDES THE, THE PRIOR ONE. SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE YOUR, IS THERE A WAY TO SAY HARD PRINTOUT ? WELL, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT FINANCE CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LAST, LAST TIME THEY WERE HERE, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TYPICALLY AN ANNUAL PLAN THAT THEY, THEY UPDATE EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND YEAH, IT IS, YEAH. WE, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK INTO THE ARCHIVES ESSENTIALLY TO SEE, HEY, BACK IN 2023, WHAT WAS THE SPEND PLAN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? AND NOW, SO IT'S STILL THERE. OH, IT, EVERYTHING'S THERE SOMEWHERE, BUT IT'S NOT THE CURRENT, UM, DATA THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH ON THE PROJECT NOW. SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER LEVEL OF REPORTING THAT I THINK WE COULD, UM, FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO AND START ANALYZING. YOU KNOW, THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN IN THE PAST TYPICALLY HAS BEEN A, A GRAPHIC THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHERE, HERE'S WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR. UM, AND THEN, BUT LAST YEAR WE SAID WE WERE GONNA SPEND THIS MUCH LAST YEAR AND THAT WAS GONNA LEAD US TO THIS AS A END POINT. AND NOW HERE'S A NEW LINE. BUT AT THE TOP OF THAT, THERE WAS THE SPACE THAT SHOWED, UM, HOW FAR THEY HAD MISSED WHAT THEY PROJECTED TO DO IN THE YEAR THAT JUST ENDED IT. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM WHERE THEY PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETE, AND THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN HELPFUL. , IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE LOOKED AT THE TOP WHERE THEY'RE EXPLAINING, HERE'S WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS PAST YEAR, AND HERE'S WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE. IF WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY, WHY DID, WHY DID YOU MISS? IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A BLAME ISSUE, IT'S A TELL US WHAT IN THE PROCESS, WHATEVER, WHAT ARE THE FACTORS THAT CAUSED YOU NOT TO BE ABLE TO SPEND WHAT YOU HAD PROJECTED TO SPEND? YEAH. MORE LIKE YOU SAYING THE WHY WAS IT, WHICH PROJECT? WAS IT A HANDFUL PROJECT? WAS IT A, YOU KNOW, 90% OF THE PROJECTS WHAT WHAT YEAH. THE WHY. YEAH. AND, AND IN AND SPECIFICALLY IN THE, IN THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEHIND, WHY, WHY IS IT THAT THEY'RE BEHIND? WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CON CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE SUSPECT THE REASONS ARE THAT DESIGN HAS TAKEN A LOT LONGER BECAUSE THERE REALLY WASN'T A VERY GOOD IDEA WHEN THE PROJECT WAS PUT ON THE, ON THE BALLOT, WHAT WE WERE ACTUALLY GONNA DO. AND DESIGN ENDED UP BEING A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT RESULTED IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT. UM, BUT IF WE COULD DOCUMENT THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK WE COULD POINT OUT TO COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT THE BOND PROCESS TO PROCEED ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE, AND, UH, THEN YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING DELAYS IN OUR PROJECTS. YEAH. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NO FORUM RIGHT NOW THAT SORT OF PERFORMS THAT ANA ANALYSIS LIKE YOU JUST DESCRIBED. SO DEPARTMENTS WILL LAY OUT THEIR, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR'S SPEND PLAN MM-HMM . UM, AS PART OF A FIVE YEAR PROJECTION. WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE YEAR, AND THEN BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, WE'RE ON THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO LOOK AHEAD, BUT THERE'S NO POINT MIDWAY OR TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE YEAR WHERE WE STOP AND SAY, HEY, WHERE ARE WE COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE PROJECTING AND WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN SHOWING US THAT, THAT SHOWED US THE, THE NUMBER, UM, IN THE QUARTERLY CAPITAL PROGRAM. BUT THERE'S NEVER BEEN A IN DEPTH, UM, ANALYSIS OR DISCUSSION OR THE, THE WHY PART OF IT. IT'S JUST, HERE'S THE SNAPSHOT. IN THE PAST, WE'VE HAD DEPARTMENTS COME IN AND TALK ABOUT THEIR CAPITAL PROGRAM, AND ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS MAYBE WE WERE ASKING SOME OF THE WRONG QUESTIONS RIGHT. INSTEAD OF ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOTTOM. YEAH. WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS A PROJECTION OUT INTO THE FUTURE. MAYBE WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, OKAY, YOU'VE JUST WENT, YOU'VE JUST GONE THROUGH THIS YEAR MM-HMM . AND TELL [00:30:01] US WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS THAT CAUSED YOU TO BE, IF YOU ARE BEHIND ON WHERE YOU THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE COMM YOU BY COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS MM-HMM . AND AS WE, AS WE PROCEED WITH THESE, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. HAVE THE DEPARTMENTS COME IN AND AS WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THEY, THEY CAN EASILY EXPLAIN THE WHYS TO YEAH. WHAT THEY WERE DOING. SO BECAUSE IT'S RE YOU KNOW, IT'S RECENT HISTORY, IT'S EASIER, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE DIGGING BACK ALL THE WAY INTO THE PAST. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WAS THIS PAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE USED TO DOING THAT CHART. AND I THINK THE CHART MAY BE HELPFUL TO US. I JUST THINK MAYBE WE WERE LOOKING AT THE WRONG PART OF THE CHART. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK TO THE DEPARTMENTS AS THEY COME IN TO PREPARE FOR THAT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO WE'LL MAKE NOTE OF THAT. GET A SCHEDULE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST TIME I WAS A SPECIAL GUEST HERE, I THINK I WAS JUST SITTING IN THE CROWD YEP. . AND SOMEBODY SAID, HEY, COULD WE GET A QUICK UPDATE ON V? AND I SAID, ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS TIME WE CAME PREPARED WITH A SLICE TO KIND OF PUT A LITTLE YEAH. LITTLE INSIGHT BACK OUT THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM OUR STANDPOINT, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL DID AUTHORIZE, UH, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, CALLING FOR A BOND PRO, UH, PROGRAM. SO $295 MILLION PROP A WAS THE PARKS AND RECREATION FOR $260 MILLION. AND THEN PROP B WAS THE LIBRARY, UH, PROPOSITION FOR $35 MILLION. SO, UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST KIND OF FROM THE NEXT STEPS, KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, VOTERS FOR THE VOTERS, RIGHT? LIKE, UM, SO THE ELECTION DATES YOU CAN KIND OF SEE UP HERE, BUT FROM ANYWHERE FROM STARTING OCTOBER 5TH, IT'S SORT OF LAST DAY TO REGISTER TO VOTE, KIND OF MOVING THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO GET TO YOUR END DATE FOR THE NOVEMBER 3RD ELECTION DATE. SO, UM, WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT. YEAH. AND YOU GUYS MAY GET ASKED QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS AS WELL AS COMMISSIONERS AND, AND JUST SINCE YOU'RE PUBLIC FACING, BUT THIS MIGHT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, FROM AN EDUCATION STANDPOINT. SO YEAH. THANK YOU. YES, PLEASE. AND CAN YOU ELABORATE ON PROP A, UH, LIKE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS IF THAT'S RELATED TO, UM, CAPTAIN DITCH, UH, NO PROPOSITION A IS FOR PARKS AND RECREATION. SO THIS IS $260 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, LIKE BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS $65 MILLION. THEY HAD ALLOCATED, UM, PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT, $65 MILLION. YOU HAD AQUATICS FOR 65 MILLION, AND THEN THEY HAD ANOTHER $35 MILLION FOR, UM, PARKLAND ACQUISITION. SO THIS IS A PARKS, AND IN ESSENCE, CAN I AIR, AIR QUOTE THIS SORT OF A, A MARKS BOND AND THEN A SMALL PORTION OF LIBRARY IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. SO FOR PROPOSITION B, AND, UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AND, AND MAYBE I SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, IS IF THERE'S ANY EFFORT TO, UM, TY SPANS TO PUBLIC SENTIMENT. UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK SO. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO WE WENT THROUGH A, A PRETTY DETAILED THOROUGH, I WOULD SAY THE CITY DID OUR C, OUR CPIO OR ACE TEAM LED, UM, A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS. UM, AND THIS, THIS BOND PACKAGE THAT CAME OUT WAS ACTUALLY MUCH HIGHER THAN THE 2018 BOND, WHICH WAS I THINK 149 MILLION. AND THEN IT WAS ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WE HAD IN, UM, EVEN OUR, UH, PACKAGES. BUT YES, THIS DOES TAKE INTO A LOT OF PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE AQUATICS. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UH, A NUMBER OF SWIMMING POOLS. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT ACQUISITION OF LAND. WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF KEY THINGS THAT ARE TIED INTO THIS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC SPECIFICALLY. AND IS THERE ANY PLAN TO PUT SOMETHING THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THAT INFORMATION UP ON THE DASHBOARD? I, I THINK THAT, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION THAT IS COMING OUT, SO THAT'S TBD, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND THE COMMUNICATION WILL BE COMING FROM THE, FROM, UM, AUSTIN'S COMMUNICATION AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM. MM-HMM . SO STAY TUNED I THINK, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK WITH THAT, THAT WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. YEAH. SO WE'RE, THANK YOU, MARCUS. YES, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. YES, THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS FUTURE AGENDA [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] ITEMS. AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I DIDN'T SEE YOUR EMAIL UNTIL THE NINTH AND SHE HAD [00:35:01] ALREADY POSTED . YEAH. WHAT I HAD, WHAT I HAD SUGGESTED WAS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE ON IN THAT REPORT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME THAT HAD NOT MET THEIR SPENDING PLAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT ON REFLECTION, I THINK WE COULD, ANOTHER WAY OF GETTING TO THAT WOULD BE, UH, TO FOCUS ON IN THE DEPARTMENTAL REPORT, REGULAR PRESENTATIONS TO US LOOKING AT THAT AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, LOOKING AT THAT ASPECT OF HOW THEY MISSED THEIR PROJECTION MM-HMM . JUST IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. THE WHY, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR DEPARTMENTS TO TRY TO GO BACK AND RECONSTRUCT WHAT YOU KNOW, HAS HAPPENED TO A, A BOND PRO, A PRO BOND PROJECT OVER X NUMBER OF YEARS THAT LED THEM TO, YOU KNOW, BE IN THAT POSITION. MM-HMM . BUT IF WE ASK IT ON A MORE CURRENT BASIS ON THEIR REGULAR PRESENTATIONS TO US, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY OF ADDRESSING THE SAME ISSUE. YEP. GOOD POINT. I THINK IT'D BE EASIER FOR DEPARTMENTS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'LL ADD, WE'LL ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT ONE. UH, I, I'M WONDERING IF, IF, UH, ARE YOU, IS CAPITAL PROJECTS PLANNING TO DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT MEETING ON ANY PLANS YOU HAVE FOR CHANGING PRESENTATIONS OR INFORMATION OR, I'M GOING BACK TO THE COMMENT THAT YOU, YOU ALL WERE WORKING ON REVISING HOW YOU DO REPORTING AND TRANSPARENCY AND YEAH, I THINK WHEN THOSE TWO, UH, PRODUCTS WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE DASH, THE LIVE DASHBOARD PLUS THE NEW QUARTERLY, UM, BOND MM-HMM . UPDATE REPORT, UM, ARE AVAILABLE AFTER, UM, THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. WE CERTAINLY BRING THEM TO, TO OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING AND SHARE THEM WITH THE, WITH THE GROUP. YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD. ALRIGHT. ARE WE GOING TO START SCHEDULING DEPARTMENTS AGAIN OR? WE PROBABLY WILL, BUT NOT, IT'LL PAY AFTER THE ELECTION. . . OKAY. YEAH. TO FIND OUT WHAT, WHAT WE, IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THE BOND OR NOT, THAT'LL BE THE KEY. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, MAY, COULD, WOULD IT BE REASONABLE TO, UM, EXCLUDE THE TWO GROUPS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE UPCOMING BOND ELECTION WHILE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TO OR SCHEDULE THEM OUT FURTHER? I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, PROBABLY LAYING OUT THE SCHEDULE FOR NEXT YEAR. SO IF WE USE THE SAME APPROACH THAT WE DID THIS YEAR, WE'D FOCUS ON THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE OUTSTANDING BOND BALANCES. MM-HMM . WHICH WOULD GENERALLY BE, UM, TPW FOR THE MOBILITY BONDS, UM, PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, AND AUSTIN HOUSING. AND IF THE, IF THE BOND GOES THROUGH, THAT'LL BE, UM, IT'LL ALSO BE ADDITIONAL PART PROJECTS MM-HMM . AND, UM, LIBRARIES COULD, COULD CERTAINLY BE A, A PLAYER GOING FORWARD, BUT WE WOULD LOOK TO SCHEDULE THOSE THREE DEPARTMENTS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING BALANCE. SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN A PROPOSED, UM, 2027 SCHEDULED DISCUSSION, UPCOMING MEETING. OKAY. AND, AND ONE OTHER COMMENT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO HOUSING, I HAD SOME CONCERN FOLLOWING THEIR LAST PRESENTATION THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE EXPENDITURES THAT THEY WERE PRESENTING ON WERE GOING TO DRIVE ADDITIONAL OPEX. UM, AND IT WASN'T IMMEDIATELY CLEAR HOW THAT WAS GONNA BE FUNDED OR, SO I I, IF YOU CAN JUST SURFACE THAT TO THAT GROUP AHEAD OF THEIR PRESENTATION, I'D APPRECIATE IT. SURE. ARIANNE. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT, UM, FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S PRESENTATIONS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY START IN NOVEMBER JUST SO THAT YOU GIVE ME SOME TIME SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW I WANT THAT CHRONOLOGY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. I KNOW THE COMMISSIONER HAD A VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY POINTED QUESTIONS, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MOVING FORWARD THOSE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR. SO WE'RE ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. MM-HMM . SO MY PREFERENCE WILL BE IF, UH, IF WE CAN START THEM IN NOVEMBER, THAT WILL GIVE US SOME TIME TO PREPARE FOR THAT. OKAY. AND STEVEN, AS YOU WENT THROUGH THAT LIST, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THAT GROUP THAT WAS SO PROBLEMATIC. I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE [00:40:01] ACRONYMS ARE. IT'S A CME SLASH CDS ESCAPES ME ACT ACT. AUSTIN MISSED ME. YEAH. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THE ROAD RUNNER IN THE COYOTE. SO THAT SOUNDS TO US IT'S CAPITAL DELIVERY SERVICES. WE'RE MANAGING THOSE PROJECTS. WELL WE DID SAY CDSD OH C DOES MANAGE. YES. YEAH. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE BRING BACK, I THINK THAT'S IN 2018, UH, THE BALL PROGRAM. YEAH. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE GET THAT. OKAY. AND SPEAKING OF THE NEXT MEETING, AS YOU AND I DISCUSSED, UH, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING RIGHT NOW. NOTHING OUTSTANDING. SO WE'RE, THERE'S NO AGENDA ITEMS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER AND DUE TO THE FACT THAT THAT MEETING WOULD BE ABOUT TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THE BOND ELECTION MM-HMM . UM, I THINK WE'D HAVE MORE INFORMATION, UM, COMING BACK IN NOVEMBER. WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW DEFINITIVELY ONE OR THE OTHER, WHAT, UM, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. OKAY. AND WE'LL, WE'LL, UM, BE ABLE TO THEN LAY OUT THE SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND NICOLE, IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, HOUSEKEEPING OR, UM, THINGS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT UH, JUST THE , JUST THE ANNUAL SCHEDULE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF FOR SURE IN NOVEMBER FOR 2027 IN ORDER TO GET A ROOM? YES, . ALRIGHT. SO EVERYBODY ENJOY COOLING OFF IN OCTOBER . SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, WE'LL STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.