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[CALL TO ORDER]

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SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026.

IT'S 3 0 3, UH, PM CENTRAL.

I CALL THE MONTHLY COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, TO ORDER.

UH, FIRST WE WANNA CONFIRM QUORUM WITH A ROLL CALL.

UH, PLEASE SAY PRESENT AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

UH, WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR NAME.

CARLOS GRAVES.

PRESENT HERE.

RUBEN DEPA.

TERRY FLOOD.

CHRISTOPHER HARRIS.

CATHERINE RUSSELL.

DEREK EUGENE.

PRESENT.

PRESENT.

THANKS.

LAURA CORTES FRANCO.

PRESENT.

OKAY.

LEE PETERMAN.

HERE.

LAUREN PENA.

MARISSA JOHNSON HERE.

AND CELESTE WILLIAM HERE.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT WE CONFIRM, UH, WE HAVE QUORUM FOR THE MEETING.

SO WE CONTINUE.

I WANNA WELCOME

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

YOU GUESTS AND, UM, COMMUNITY.

PERFECT.

YEAH.

COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

UM, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

THIS IS, UM, WHERE THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE A CHANCE TO, UM, PRESENT.

I THINK RIGHT NOW.

I SEE, UH, MS. PALERMO AND, UH, PLEASE.

OKAY.

HELLO AGAIN, GUYS.

UM, I'M JENNIFER PALERMO.

SHE, HER PRONOUNS, DISTRICT NINE, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.

I AM SORRY TO BOTHER Y'ALL WITH SOMETHING SO NITPICKY, BUT LAST MEETING I WAS HERE AND I KIND OF GOT MISQUOTED LATER ON IN THE MEETING.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT.

SO NOBODY OUT THERE GETS THE WRONG IDEA.

MM-HMM .

BUT I AM NOT A PROPONENT OF AN UNCHECKED POLICE BUDGET.

UM, SPECIFICALLY IN RELATION TO RIOT SHIELDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ALREADY OWN THAT EQUIPMENT.

THE TAXPAYERS ALREADY PAID FOR IT.

THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE IT, DIDN'T USE IT.

WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR BUYING THEM MORE EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY EQUIPMENT THEY ALREADY HAVE.

UM, I WILL SAY THIS, ANYONE OUT THERE WHO'S LIKE, OH, THIS IS A REALLY HARDCORE, VERY ANGRY PERSON.

I MEAN, YES, I CAN BE, BUT MY POSITION AS FAR AS POLICE FUNDING IS IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT POLICE OR A GROUP FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE.

MAYBE IT'S A SHIELD, MAYBE IT'S A SPECIAL TYPE OF LIGHT ON A CAR OR SOMETHING.

THEY CAN PRESENT A PROPOSAL AND IF IT'S REASONABLE, WE SHOULD HEAR THEM OUT.

UM, I AM NOT THAT ANGRY.

BUT THAT SAID, I DO BELIEVE IN KEEPING OUR POLICE BUDGET VERY CONTROLLED AND VERY MINIMAL.

UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON SOME CURRENT EVENTS, WE HAVE PROP ONE THAT'S COMING UP AND EVERYONE IN THE UNIVERSE SEEMS TO BE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE AUDITING, OVERSIGHT, GOVERNMENT LIKE DOGE, BUT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I DO NOT HAVE A POSITION ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE NOT READ THROUGH IT, BUT WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL WITH OUR SPENDING.

WE'VE GOT OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO PAY FOR.

SINCE I GET TWO MINUTES, I WILL WASTE THEM ALL.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU GUYS.

AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE OFFICIALLY TAKEN UP THE ANTON WILLIAMS CASE, BUT I DO CONTINUE TO HOPE THAT YOU DO.

UM, THANK YOU FOR DEDICATING THIS TIME, FOR BEING SO NICE.

UM, TO, TO THE SPECIFIC MEMBER WHO MISQUOTED ME LAST TIME, I JUST WANT IT ON THE RECORD.

I'M NOT MAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU SEEM LIKE A NICE GUY, , JUST IN CASE HE'S WORRIED.

I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT MY POSITION IS.

I DO NOT SUPPORT OVERSPENDING ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW THAT ON TUESDAY, THE CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE, IS HAVING A DISCUSSION AGAIN ABOUT MOVING THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER, EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE WAS KIND OF ON BOARD WITH IT.

SO I JUST WANNA MENTION IT HERE.

'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S RELATED TO YOUR WORK.

UM, THE, THE REPORT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT HAS SOME SERIOUS FLAWS IN IT AS FAR AS HOW THE RESEARCH WAS CONDUCTED.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WERE NOT DIRECTLY INTERVIEWED, AND THEY DID NOT GATHER THE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF OUR CALLS ARE BEING ROUTED DIRECTLY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU CALL AND ASK FOR MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD DAY.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THAT AGAIN IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SO, YEAH.

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AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR TODAY.

UM, NEXT WE'LL MOVE TO, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YES.

MAY HAVE YOU RECOGNIZED.

YEAH.

UM, I BELIEVE MS. UH, COMMISSIONER PENA IS JUST JOINED, IS NOW WITH US? YEAH.

YES.

DID YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APOLOGIZE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME USING THE ONLINE, UH, TYPE, SO I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO COMPLETELY GET ON.

RIGHT.

SO, THANK YOU GUYS.

WELCOME.

WONDERFUL.

YEAH.

SO WE'D LIKE TO, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM, UH, THE STAFF BRIEFINGS.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

UH, ANY UPDATES ON THE POLICE TECHNOLOGY UNIT? UH, CHAIR, WE WANNA OH, SORRY.

TO APPROVE OTHER MINUTES.

YEAH, YEAH.

BEFORE THAT WE NORMALLY, UH, AT THIS POINT WE DO, UM,

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

MY BAD.

AND RIGHT, I, I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MONTH.

WE DON'T HAVE IT READY, SO I'D LIKE A SECOND ON THAT.

SECOND.

SECOND.

OKAY.

AND WE'D LIKE TO POSTPONE IT.

THE NEXT WE'RE WE'LL POSTPONE THE, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES TILL NEXT MEETING, AND LIKE TO VOTE ON THAT.

WHO APPROVES THE POSTPONEMENT OF THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES TILL NEXT MEETING? A CELESTE .

OKAY.

SO THAT LOOKS, UH, LIKE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE STAFF LIAISON WAS, HAS BEEN, UH, SICK.

AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME PERMISS ISSUES THERE.

OKAY.

NOW

[Items 2 & 3]

WE'LL GET TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR.

YEAH.

GAIL MCCANN, UH, DIRECTOR AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING PROGRESS OF WORK WITH THE POLICE TECHNOLOGY.

THERE ARE NO UPDATES, UH, REGARDING THE EXECUTIVE, UH, LIAISON UPDATE FOR SEPTEMBER 18TH.

UH, JUST WANNA GO OVER THE INITIAL OVERVIEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

SO ON AUGUST 28TH, UH, WE HELD AN ANNUAL, UH, AWARDS AND RECOGNITION PROGRAM, UH, FOR OUR STAFF.

UH, THERE WERE SEVERAL AWARDS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO STAFF, UH, SHANNON KULA AND PIERCE AKASH.

THEY RECEIVED DIRECTORS AWARDS FOR THEIR WORK ON THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD, BRENNAN DURAN INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARD FOR HIS ROLE IN WORKING CASES AND MANAGING, UH, THE COMPLAINTS TEAM SIMULTANEOUSLY.

UH, KATRINA DORSEY PROJECT AWARD FOR HER WORK ON THE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, UH, PROJECT COOPER THOMPSON, UH, NEW IMPLEMENTATION AWARD FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THE 2025, UH, OPEN HOUSE.

AND THEN THE UPCOMING A PO EXPO.

RON ALVAREZ ALSO, UH, RECEIVED AN INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENT WARD FOR HIS CONTINUED PROFESSIONALISM AND ASSISTANCE, COLLABORATING AND ASSISTING ALL DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CPRC, IN ADDITION TO HIS DAILY ROUTINE, UH, ASSIGNMENTS.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, I WANNA CONGRATULATE EVERYONE WHO RECEIVED AN AWARD AND THANK THE ENTIRE TEAM, UH, FOR THEIR CONSISTENT DEDICATION TO DOING THIS WORK.

UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY COMPILING DATA, UH, TO REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON OUR DEPARTMENT YEAR IN GOALS.

UH, AND I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT A PO WILL MEET ALL ITS ESTABLISHED GOALS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

THIS YEAR, ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, UM, I MYSELF MET WITH, UH, CONSULTANTS FOR THE EFFICIENCY ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A THREE YEAR PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN INITIATED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS.

THE MEETING ALLOWED THE CONSULTANT, UM, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS, LLC, TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THE EFFICIENCY ASSESSMENT PROCESS.

SO WE WENT THROUGH WHAT THE PROCE THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

AND A PO, UH, WAS IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE ASSESSMENT.

THE FIRST YEAR.

THERE'S A THREE YEAR PROCESS.

A PO WILL BE IN THE FIRST YEAR ASSESSMENT ON SEPTEMBER 14, DEPUTY DIRECTOR MASTERS AND I PARTICIPATED IN A VIRTUAL EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER SOFTWARE TRAINING.

UM, MOST CITY DEPARTMENTS MUST IDENTIFY STAFF WHO CAN BE DEPLOYED IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY.

SO THIS TRAINING IS PART OF THAT.

SOME OF THE UPCOMING ACTIVITIES, THE POLICY AND RESEARCH, ALONG WITH THE COMMS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STAFF, ARE CONTINUE TO MEET WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND AN EDUCATION REGARDING THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD.

UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT ON SEPTEMBER 26, UH, A PO WILL HOST AN EXPO FROM 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AT CITY HALL.

THE EXPO WILL GIVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE ENTIRE STAFF AND DISCUSS APOS

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PROCESSES AND ITS PROGRAMS. WE ALSO HAVE A FARSIDE CHAT WITH YOURS, TRULY THE DIRECTOR AND SOME, SOME OF THE OTHER MANAGERS.

UM, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE OUR, UM, MEDIATION CONSULTANT.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A NEW PROGRAM WE STARTED THIS YEAR.

SO THE, UH, CONSULTANT FROM THE DISPUTE RESOLUTION CENTER, SHE WILL ALSO BE THERE.

AND YOU AS COMMISSIONERS WILL ALSO BE THERE AS WELL, UH, TABLING FOR THAT, THAT EVENT.

SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT EVENT ON THE 26TH.

EXCUSE ME, WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.

AND THEN, UM, THE, THERE WILL BE BOOTH OUTSIDE IN THE HRI WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN SPEAK, UM, WITH THE STAFF.

WHAT TIME DOES IT START? UH, IT'S FROM 9:00 AM TO 2:00 PM ON THE 26TH.

SO CPRC ALTERNATES.

UM, AGAIN, WE ARE CURRENTLY STILL DOING THE, THE STATE MANDATED BACKGROUNDS AND THE TRAINING FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED IN TERMS OF, OF THE TRAINING.

THERE'S NO NEW ITEMS OR ACTIONS TO REPORT FOR THE COMMISSION.

UH, WE DID PROVIDE THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I KNOW YOU HAD REQUESTED THAT.

SO THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.

IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS.

A PO LAUNCHED THAT PROGRAM AT A PRESS CONFERENCE IN JULY ON JULY 31ST AT NINE HERE AT CITY HALL WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOSE VELAZQUEZ.

THE TEAM IS INITIATING THE PHASE THREE, AND THAT'S A TRAINING COMPONENT THAT WE'LL OFFER TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UH, AGAIN, THE EXPO IS HAPPENING ON THE 26TH HERE AT CITY HALL AND THE ANNUAL REPORT, WE ARE WORKING ON THE 2025 ANNUAL REPORT, RELEASING THAT REPORT, UH, BY THE FALL.

SO IT IS CURRENTLY, UH, IT'S DRAFT, IT'S IN DRAFT MODE, AND IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING REVIEWED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO ON AUGUST 22ND, JUST TO PROVIDE FOR YOU SOME OF THE EVENTS WE'VE ATTENDED SINCE OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, AND THOSE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH.

UH, AUGUST 22ND, WE DID THE AUSTIN PRIDE EVENT.

UM, WE DID THIS TO SUPPORT THE, AND CELEBRATE THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY.

UM, WE PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT A PO SERVICES, AND WE DID KNOW YOUR RIGHTS AS WELL AT THAT EVENT.

ALSO, ON THE 25TH, WE HAD THE HISPANIC QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION, WHERE WE WENT THERE TO PRESENT THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD.

UH, WE ALSO VISITED THE OTHERS ONES FOUNDATION.

THAT WAS ON AUGUST 26TH.

THE OTHER ONE FOUNDATION, WE WENT THERE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT ITS SERVICES AND ITS EFFORTS TO SEE HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THOSE INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING INSTABILITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT FOUNDATION DOES.

AND WE WENT THERE AND WAS PROVIDED A TOUR OF THAT FACILITY ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

UM, WE DID A PRESENTATION TO THE, UH, HUNDRED AND 57TH A PD ACADEMY CADETS.

UM, WE GO THERE, WE DO A PRESENTATION JUST TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, FIRST OF ALL, TO INTRODUCE OUR OFFICE AND TALK ABOUT WHO WE ARE, AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW TO THE CADETS ABOUT AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT.

UH, ON NINE NINE, UM, WE ALL BELONG.

WE RECEIVED A BRIEFING FROM THE WE ALL BELONG PROJECT TEAM ABOUT CURRENT PROGRESS AND FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.

CITY COUNCIL.

THERE'S A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION RESOLUTION 1 22.

IT ESTABLISHED THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE BRINGS TOGETHER, UM, CITY, COUNTY, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT, VICTIM SERVICES, EDUCATION, AND OTHER RELEVANT GOVERNMENT PARTNERS TO SUPPORT COORDINATION RELATED TO HATE CRIMES AND HATE INCIDENTS, PREVENTION AND RESPONSE.

AND SO WE'RE PART OF THAT.

ON NINE 16 SHARED SERVICES BRIEFINGS, WE ATTENDED A BRIEFING ON SHARED SERVICES TO LEARN ABOUT CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION AND OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE DELIVERY OF CITY SERVICES.

ON SEPTEMBER 24, WE FOURTH, WE WILL JOIN THE CENTRAL TEXAS INTERFAITH COALITION.

WE ARE MEETING, UH, WITH THEM TO ENGAGE WITH FAITH LEADERS AND DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, COLLABORATION THERE.

UH, AGAIN, THE A PO, UH, EXPO ON SEPTEMBER 26TH.

WE DON'T WANNA EXPRESS THAT.

WE WANNA EXPRESS THAT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THAT.

AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, CITY WORKS PRESENTATION, WE'LL DO A PRESENTATION OF CITY WORK, UM, WITH, UH, AUSTIN EQUITY AND INCLUSION TO INTRODUCE A PO SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR INVOLVEMENT.

WE DO HAVE SOME PENDING MEETINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE DATES FOR YET.

SO WE PLAN TO MEET WITH, UH, GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP,

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TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS PROJECT, AND NO WRONG DOOR, BUT THOSE DATES ARE TO BE DETERMINED.

IN TERMS OF THE POLICY, WE ARE PREPARING TO SEND SEVERAL POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

UH, THOSE WILL BE RELATED TO INTERPRETER SERVICES, UH, VEHICLE PURSUIT AND FOOT PURSUIT, UH, C SEARCH AND SEIZURE.

UH, THEY ALSO, UH, WE ALSO ATTENDED THE POLICY TEAM, ALSO ATTENDED THE PROFESSIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING AT THE A PD ACADEMY ACADEMY.

AND THAT'S TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UH, SEXUAL ASSAULT AND FAMILY VIOLENCE TRAINING CURRICULUM.

SO THAT'S THE CURRICULUM THEY WERE IN NOW, AND WE'VE ATTENDED THAT.

UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.

UH, KIM, UH, THE MANAGER, UH, CRYSTAL KIM KIMBRO HAS ALSO, UH, TEAMED UP WITH, UH, OUR OTHER MANAGER, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, MANAGER TO CONDUCT OIS DASHBOARDS, PRESENTATIONS ACROSS THE CITY, SEVERAL C CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

IN TERMS OF THE COMPLAINTS TEAM, THE COMPLAINTS DIVISION RECENTLY FILLED A VACANT COMPLAINT.

INVESTIGATIVE POSITION.

AARON CRAIG, HE'S ALREADY AT OUR OFFICE.

HE WAS ONE OF OUR COMPLAINT SPECIALISTS.

HE WAS THE TOP CANDIDATE AND ACCEPTED THAT POSITION, UH, FOR THE COMPLAINT.

AND WENT FROM COMPLAINT SPECIALIST TO COMPLAINT INVESTIGATOR.

AND NOW WE ARE RECRUITING TO BACKFILL THAT POSITION.

AND WE'RE ALSO RECRUITING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALISTS.

UH, THAT POSITION BECAME VACANT LAST MONTH, AND WE'RE RECRUITING FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO BETWEEN AUGUST 21ST, OUR LAST MEETING AND, UH, SEPTEMBER 11, SEVEN, FORMAL COMPLAINTS WERE FORWARD FORWARDED TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION FOR INVESTIGATION.

YOU RECEIVED FOUR OF THOSE CASES FOR REVIEW THIS WEEK, AND THERE'S CURRENTLY TWO CASES PENDING FOR DOWNLOAD.

AND THEN THE UPCOMING ITEMS AND PRIORITIES, AS I NOTED, UH, THOSE WERE FORWARDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS ON SEPTEMBER.

UH, SECOND.

THOSE ARE ALL YOUR, YOUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I WON'T GO TO THE LIST.

THROUGH THE LIST.

YOU HAVE THOSE IN YOUR INBOX.

THANK YOU, SIR.

CHAIRMAN GRAVES? YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT TO DIRECTOR MC MCCANN.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

YEAH, DR.

MCCANN.

UM, CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE POLICY, UH, UPDATE PROCESS? YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT OPO WOULD BE SENDING RECOMMENDATIONS TO A PD FOR VARIOUS POLICIES.

UM, IS THERE A CYCLE FOR POLICY REVIEW? WHERE ARE WE IN THAT CYCLE? UM, IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE, PROVIDE SOME OF THAT INSIGHT.

YEAH.

SO OUR POLICY AND RESEARCH TEAM, THEY REVIEW GENERAL ORDERS, THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GENERAL ORDERS.

AS THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THOSE REVIEWS, THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHIEF ON ITEMS THAT THEY THINK THAT WE CAN, THAT CAN BE IMPROVED.

WE WILL SEND THOSE ITEMS, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OVER TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

AND THEY WILL EITHER CONCUR WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE MADE, OR THEY WILL PROVIDE INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THEIR REASONS, UH, FOR NOT MAKING THOSE, UH, CHANGES TO THE POLICY.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE THE POLICIES IN FRONT OF ME, AND SO I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.

AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ONGOING.

IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, FOR ADMINISTRATIVE RULES WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE UPDATED.

IT CAN ONLY BE DONE DURING CERTAIN TIMES.

THIS IS AN ONGOING PROCESS WITHIN OPL? YES.

THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, WITH THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT ACT.

OKAY.

SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, WHEN WILL WE BE, WILL WE GET A COPY OF THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS? WE DON'T NORMALLY PROVIDE A COPY OF THE, UH, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CH TO THE COMMISSION.

THEY ARE POSTED OR PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE US TO PROVIDE COPIES TO YOU IN THE FUTURE, WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT.

WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO GET A COPY.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE POLICY, UH, OVERSIGHT AS WELL.

AND, UM, MY THOUGHT IS IN GETTING THE COPY AND REVIEWING IT AND MAYBE GETTING IT ON OUR AGENDA THAT WE COULD TAKE ACTION TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ABSOLUTELY.

FIRST, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE TO SEE THEM.

SO, UM,

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WHAT IS THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW FOR YOUR POLICY RESEARCH TEAM? SO THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE REVIEW OF THOSE GENERAL ORDERS THAT I NOTED, AND THOSE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING APPROVED FOR ME NOW.

AND PROBABLY BY NEXT WEEK, WE WILL HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OVER TO THE CHIEF, UH, EARLY NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

WELL, I DON'T WANNA SLOW THAT PROCESS DOWN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN, UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE HOW WE CAN BE INTEGRATED INTO THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT OR AUGMENT OPOS PROCESS.

YES, SIR.

I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ON TO WHAT HE SAID.

UH, SEVERAL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHIEF HAVE INVOLVED, UH, CH MODIFICATIONS TO THE GENERAL ORDER TOO.

SO I, I WAS HOPE, I WISH, I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD LOOKED AT THOSE TWO TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO, TO, TO ADD TO THAT.

I KNOW MAYBE WE MISSED THIS WINDOW SINCE YOU ALREADY FINISHED, BUT, UM, ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHIEF STUDENT BECAUSE IT, IT, IT WILL COME, I THINK IF, IF YOU, UH, FIND VALIDITY BEHIND IT, IT PROBABLY IS LIKE IT'S COMING FROM BOTH OF US AND THAT'S GIVES MORE, MORE, UH, STRENGTH TO THE RECOMMENDATION.

I WILL SAY THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ALL MADE, WE HAVE FORWARDED THOSE TO THE, TO THE CHIEF.

YES.

I, I, I REALIZED THAT, BUT I WAS, WAS WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SERVE AS A SECOND, AS A SECOND AS VALIDATION TO SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AS THE, THIS IS JUST, I KNOW IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT AS CPRC MAKES A RECOMMENDATION, SINCE YOU ARE CLEARLY VIS IT'S VISIBLE TO YOU, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE NICE IF AS YOUR GROUP THAT SPECIALIZE IN DOING THAT, LOOK, LOOKING THROUGH THE GENERAL ORDER, TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT TOO.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SO NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

UH, MAY IAM MAKE A INQUIRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN? YES.

BEFORE, BEFORE, UH, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT WE ARE TO TAKE ACTION ON TODAY? I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM.

NO, UH, NO, THERE'S NOTHING TO REP REPRIORITIZE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO AGAIN,

[4. Discuss correction of a commissioner’s misquote of a public comment made at the August 21, 2026, CPRC meeting.]

WE'LL NOW, AND DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, A DISCUSSION OF CORRECTION OF A COMMISSIONER'S MISQUOTE OF A PUBLIC COMMENT MADE ON AUGUST 21ST, 2026 IN THE CPRC MEETING.

I'M READING THIS, UM, TO BE READ AS WRITTEN.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LAST CPRC MEETING 21ST OF AUGUST, WAS LATER MISQUOTED IN THE MEETING.

A FORMAL REQUEST HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE PUBLIC FOR A PUBLIC CORRECTION OF HER STATEMENTS.

SHE DOES NOT SUPPORT BUYING DUPLICATE EQUIPMENT FOR A PD NOR INCREASES TO THEIR FUNDING, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT INTERFERES WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF MULTIMODAL AND OR MORE EFFECTIVE APPROACHES TO SAFETY.

AND WHEN POLICE ARE NOT FORCED TO IMPROVE OVERALL QUALITY OF INTERACTIONS OUTCOME, SHE DOES NOT, SHE DOES SUPPORT REASONABLE DISCUSSIONS OF THESE TOPICS, WHEN AND WHERE APPROPRIATE TO ENSURE BEST OUTCOMES FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY.

UM, MS. PALERMO WAS HERE EARLIER, AND I THINK SHE WAS ONE THAT, UM, UM, HAD, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMM UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND I'M SORRY SHE'S ALREADY LEFT, BUT I WANTED HER TO KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER HARRIS, WHO'S, WHO MADE THE, THE COMMENT, UH, WE'VE SPOKEN, HE WAS VERY SORRY FOR HAVING MISINTERPRETED OR, OR MISQUOTED HER.

UH, THAT THAT'S NOT, NOT OUR INTENT TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO IF THERE'S ANY, ANY COMMENTS? YEAH.

DO, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AGAIN TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST WEEK AS CORRECTED? UH, PARDON ME.

UH, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING AS CORRECTED? HMM.

UH, WE, WE WILL MAKE THE CORRECTIONS ON THE MEETING AND IN THE OCTOBER MEETING, YOU'LL HAVE AN ABILITY TO APPROVE THE MEETINGS FOR SEPTEMBER.

OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD.

THANKS.

UH, NEXT, WE'D

[5. Discussion of Commissioner attendance at the NACOLE Conference in Louisville, Kentucky, November 8-12, 2026.]

LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE,

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WHICH IS A DISCUSSION OF COMMISSIONER'S ATTENDANCE AT THE NA, UH, N-A-C-A-O-A CONFERENCE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY ON NOVEMBER EIGHT THROUGH 12 20 26.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, VICE CHAIR TO, TO LEAD THIS SINCE I KNOW SHE'S ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT'S GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING IN IT.

YES.

SO, FOR THE TRAINING, THIS IS THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS WAS, UM, BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST MONTHS, AND WE HAD TO SIGN UP.

SO WE ALREADY REGISTERED THREE COMMISSIONERS ARE ATTENDING THIS CONFERENCE NOVEMBER 8TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 12TH.

UM, I ATTACHED THE AGENDA.

WE OPTED FOR ALSO TAKING PART IN THE COMMISSIONER AND BOARD SPECIAL MEETING ON THE EIGHTH.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO A TRAINING OF THIS CALIBER.

UM, SO MY, THE IDEA FOR BRINGING IT UP IS I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC, WHAT COMMISSIONERS WANT THOSE THAT ARE ATTENDING.

ONE WAS TO COME BACK, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A A FREE CONFERENCE.

WE WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK.

UH, AND IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION.

WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING.

BUT I WANNA KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND, AND THEN SOMETHING WE CAN IMPLEMENT INTO OUR OWN COMMISSION.

UM, ANY IDEAS ARE WELCOME.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE IS ATTENDING.

I KNOW I'M ONE OF THE ATTENDEES.

UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

UM, SO EVEN BEYOND THIS MEETING, UH, PLEASE LET US KNOW, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WHAT YOUR INTERESTS OR INSIGHTS IS, ARE FROM, UH, FROM OUR ATTENDANCE.

UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS, UH, CARLOS, MY, MY PERSPECTIVE.

IF YOU GUYS, WHEN YOU CAME BACK, IF YOU GIVE US A SUMMARY OF ANY INSIGHTS YOU GOT FROM THE ATTENDEE, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER REQUESTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR WHAT THEY WOULD LOVE? THE, THE, OR THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CPRC THAT ARE GONNA BE AT TO BRING BACK? IT'S A GOOD CHANCE TO, TO BRING IT UP.

I'D LIKE TO SAY, AS YOU'RE COMING UP WITH THESE QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS AND SUGGESTIONS, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND.

THIS IS WHERE, UH, THREE OF US COMMISSIONERS WE ARE GONNA GO WITH OTHER COMMISSIONERS, OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS, UM, ANY OTHER COMMUNITY OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT PRACTITIONERS TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION, LEARN, GET, GATHER IDEAS ABOUT ISSUES FACING OUR CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENTS, JAILS, PRISONS.

SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF, OF EVERYTHING IN THIS CONFERENCE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE GOING TO A CONFERENCE OF THIS TYPE.

THIS IS, UM, NO LONGER A NEW, NEW COMMISSION.

UH, BUT OUR ROLES TO US ARE NEW.

SO WE'RE STILL FINALIZING KIND OF THAT, THAT LEARNING PROCESS.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE LEARNED.

I KNOW THERE'S THREE OF US, UH, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER PENA, WHO WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE.

AGAIN, NOTHING NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON TODAY.

WE DO COME BACK, I BELIEVE, ON THURSDAY.

AND THEN THE NEXT FRIDAY IS OUR MEETING.

I'M NOT SURE HOW FEASIBLE IT'LL BE FOR US TO CREATE A PRESENTATION AS WE'RE GOING OF LIKE FIVE DAYS BACK TO BACK OF MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES TO PRESENT THAT FRIDAY.

BUT WE CAN ALSO VOTE ON THE NEXT FRIDAY TO HAVE AN ACTUAL PRESENTATION OR MORE INFORMATION DETAILS IN THE UPCOMING MEETING.

SO, UH, IS THAT MEETING ON IN NOVEMBER, THAT MEETING IN NOVEMBER ON THE 13TH? IT'S THE EIGHTH THROUGH THE 12TH.

SO IS IS THE COMMISSION MEETING MY, MY CORRECTION? YES.

WE HAVE AN ONLINE MEETING ON 13.

OUR COMMISSION MEETING IS ON THE 20TH.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE, WE IN THEORY, HAVE ENOUGH TIME IN THAT CASE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

AND SO I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND WHEN WE GOT TO THE, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, A REVIEW OF THE NACO CONFERENCE AT THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING.

WE COULD HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.

I, I GUESS ONE OTHER COMMENT I'LL HAVE FOR YOU, YOU GUYS IS, UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST, UH, COMMISSIONER ROSS IS NOT HERE, BUT SHE HAD MENTIONED IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A LIST OF OTHER CITIES WHO HAD SIMILAR COMMISSIONS AND SO FORTH.

ANY INFORMATION LIKE THAT THAT YOU COULD GET WOULD BE, WOULD BE VALUABLE.

YOU KNOW, SO A LIST OF OTHER, OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND OTHER SIMILAR COMMISSIONS THROUGHOUT THE, THE

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COUNTRY, UM, SO FORTH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

IF, IF THROUGHOUT THE MEETINGS AND BEFORE WE GO ON TO THIS CONFERENCE, IF ANY COMMISSIONER HAS ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS, WE CAN ASK OTHER MORE EXPERIENCED COMMISSIONERS, OTHER DIFFERENT CITIES, DIFFERENT STATES THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF COMMISSION IN, UM, CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.

THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH OTHERS.

SO IT'S, IT'S NO LONGER GONNA BE IN THEORY, OH, THIS STATE, THIS CITY DOES SOMETHING.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY CONNECT WITH THEM.

SO THINK ABOUT IT, EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT THE ONE GOING, SEND US THOSE QUESTIONS, SEND THOSE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS WHEN WE'RE THERE AT THE CONFERENCE.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL FOR THAT.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER

[6. Discussion of the Commissioners' roles and participation in the Austin Police Oversight Expo.]

SIX, DISCUSSION OF THE COMMISSIONER'S ROLE AND PARTICIPATION IN THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT EXPO OF SEPTEMBER 26.

UH, VICE CHAIR AGAIN, COULD YOU LEAD THAT? SURE.

SO THIS WAS, UH, PART OF APOS, UM, EVENT THAT I SAID LAST MEETING.

LAST CONFERENCE.

I SAID, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE AN ACTUAL PUBLIC EVENT AND TEAM UP WITH THEM AND HAVE US BE VISIBLE TO A COMMUNITY.

SO, SO FAR WE HAVE ABOUT TWO COMMISSIONERS, MYSELF AND THE CHAIR, AND ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO ATTEND THIS.

THERE'S NOT A HARD REQUIREMENT TO ATTEND.

AGAIN, UH, THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THIS IS A VOLUNTEER BASED POSITION.

AND, UM, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO TAKE UP SOME OF YOUR EXTRA LIMITED SPARE TIME TO SHOW UP TO ONE OF THESE EVENTS.

HOWEVER, PART OF OUR ANNUAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED INCLUDED COMPLETING SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY EVENTS.

SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ONE IN THE BOOKS, PUT OURSELVES OUT THERE, CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT BEING ONLINE, BEING IN THE ACTUAL MEETING ROOM, AND ACTUALLY HAVING, ACTUALLY HAVING PEOPLE COME UP TO US, TALK TO US, ASK QUESTIONS, ASK FOR CLARIFICATION.

MY HOPES IS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH WITH A PO AND HOW TO SUBMIT THESE FORMS, UM, AND HOW TO SUBMIT THESE COMPLAINTS AND FOLLOW THROUGH SO THAT IT BECOMES THE CASE THAT WE ARE THEREFORE ABLE TO REVEAL.

JUST TO ADD TO THAT, YOU KNOW'S A REMINDER THAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA DO IS INCREASE THE NUMBER OF, OF CITIZENS PARTICIPATION IN, IN THE COMPLAINT, EVERYTHING, RIGHT? THAT WE NEED MORE.

UM, WE WANT TO LOWER THE THRESHOLD AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE TRUSTING THE SYSTEM AND NO BETTER WAY OF HAVING A CHANCE FOR US TO BE THERE.

SO I'LL BEG YOU, TRY TO BE THERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THE WHOLE TIME, BUT IF YOU CAN, UH, PLEASE SHOW UP ON THE SEPTEMBER, UM, 26TH.

OKAY.

COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, IF NO MORE

[7. Discussion of Austin 311 Non-Emergency Existing Police Report.]

QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSSION OF AUSTIN 3 1 1, NON-EMERGENCY, UH, EXITING POLICE REPORT.

EXISTING POLICE REPORT.

SORRY, I HATE TO, TO, TO LEAN ONCE AGAIN ON THE VICE CHAIR AGAIN, BUT I THINK THAT ONCE AGAIN, THIS WAS A ITEM THAT SHE WAS CHAMPION, CHAMPION IN.

SO, UM, WILL YOU LEAD THE DISCUSSION? OF COURSE, I'VE ATTACHED A PDF OF WHAT THE, AS 3 1 1 PLATFORM INCLUDES.

IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IT'S A GREAT PLATFORM.

IT HAS A LOT OF OPTIONS.

IT ALSO HAS A NON-EMERGENCY EXISTING POLICE REPORT.

SO THESE ARE ALREADY POLICE REPORTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND IT GIVES YOU A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

UM, GIMME ONE SECOND.

AS I PULL UP THE WEBSITE, AGAIN, I WAS UNABLE TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT THE OPTIONS WERE.

UH, BUT THIS IS ONLY FOR EXISTING POLICE REPORTS.

SO WHEN IT SAYS WHAT IS THE ISSUE, THERE'S A DROPDOWN THAT SAYS, NEED STATUS OF REPORT, OTHER ISSUE RELATED TO REPORT AND UPDATE REPORT.

NOW, IN THEORY, MOST OF THESE REPORTS ARE, HEY, I NEED AN UPDATE.

HEY, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I NEED AN UPDATE.

MY CONCERN IS THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT SOME INDIVIDUALS MIGHT BE USING THIS PLATFORM TO FILE A COMPLAINT INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH A PO INSTEAD OF FILING THAT OTHER INDIVIDUAL FORM.

NOW, THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP TO OUR ATTENTION IS THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SORT OF LOW STAKE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S NOT BASED ON A CASE, RIGHT? AS, AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF MORE THAN JUST REVIEWING CASES.

UM, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THIS IS A, A, A EXTREMELY TOP PRIORITY, UM,

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RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOW STAKE ENOUGH THAT WE CAN PRACTICE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, ON A SYSTEM IN AN OVERFLOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE GAPS, THERE MIGHT BE CASES FALLING THROUGH.

WHAT I AM TOLD FROM A PO IS THAT THERE ARE CASES THAT THE CITY MANAGER 3 0 1 OFFICES ARE FORWARDED TO A PO TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS CASE? HEY, I NEED AN UPDATE WITH THIS.

HOWEVER, AS, AS I'M TOLD IN IT, AND, AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A PO IN A BIT, CAN I HELP ME CLARIFY THIS? THERE'S NOT AN EXISTING SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS ALL THE CASES TO BE SHARED WITH A PO.

SO WE'RE GOING BY A TRUST BASIS.

WE TRUST THAT THE 3 0 1 EMPLOYEES ARE FORWARDING ALONG THE CASES THAT NEED TO BE FORWARDED ALONG.

AND THIS GIVES US A, A SPACE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO SAY, HEY, LET'S FILL THE GAP.

LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THESE CASES ARE NOT FALLING UNDER THE CRACK, BECAUSE WHY IS THERE ANOTHER NON-EMERGENCY EXISTING POLICE REPORT FUNCTION WHEN WE DO HAVE A PO UH, CHAIR? MAY I BE REST? YES.

JUST, JUST FOR A BIT OF CLARIFICATION, WHAT WE'VE NOTED IS THAT SOMETIME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL CALL 3 1 1 AND THEY HAVE A COMPLAINT THAT THEY'D LIKE TO FILE AGAINST AN OFFICER 3 1 1 TRANSFERS THOSE COMPLAINTS TO A PO.

SO JUST A BIT OF CLARIFICATION THERE.

SO THAT'S BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH 3 1 1, IF THEY ARE GETTING CALLS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND IT'S NOT RELATED TO SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS, 'CAUSE THAT'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN REPORT TO 3 1 1, BUT THEY ARE SKILLED AND KNOW THAT IF A COMMUNITY MEMBER IS SPECIFICALLY MAKING A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE OFFICER, THAT THAT CALL SHOULD BE TRIAGED TO US.

SO THEY ARE TRANSFERRING THAT CALL TO THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT OFFICE.

DID THAT CLARIFY THAT? COMMISSIONER FRANCO? I BELIEVE THAT THE FLOOR IS OPEN IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD.

UM, I DO HAVE A BIT OF A CONCERN ABOUT 3 1 1 THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE OUT IN DELL VALLEY, UH, IT'S NOT 3 1 1 IS NOT AVAILABLE OUT THERE.

IF YOU TRY TO CALL 3 1 1, YOU GET A RECORDING THAT SAYS THIS CALL CANNOT BE COMPLETED AS DIALED.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIT OF A CONCERN FOR MY, THAT I'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE RECORD.

I'VE CONTACTED 3 1 1 ABOUT THIS AND THEY SAY TO CALL THE, THE CARRIER, I'VE CONTACTED, UH, TWO CELL PHONE CARRIERS, BOTH T-MOBILE AND AT AND T AND THEY'RE KIND OF AMBIVALENT ABOUT IT.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A CONNECTIVITY ISSUE, YOU JUST DON'T GET CONNECTED TO THE, TO THE SYSTEM.

YES.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE 3 1 1 IS FAILING, UH, TO CONNECT, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE STUDYING, FIND OUT EXACTLY WHERE 3 1 1 DOES NOT WORK.

THAT'S A BIG QUESTION IS IF, IS, IS YOUR AREA THE ONLY AREA IN WHICH THIS IS HAPPENING? EXACTLY, YEAH.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE AUSTIN 3 1 1? OKAY, IF NOT,

[8. Update from Austin Police Oversight and APD Internal Affairs on the investigation of the July 24, 2026, officer-involved shooting of Anthoneil Williams II.]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UPDATE FROM THE AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT AND A PD INTERNAL AFFAIRS ON THE INVESTIGATION ON THE JULY 24TH, 2026, OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OF ANTONIO WILLIAMS. I SECOND.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

KEVIN MASTERS DEPUTY DIRECTOR AT AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT.

IN REFERENCE TO THIS INCIDENT ON JULY 24TH, 2026, WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF A CRITICAL INCIDENT OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.

UH, WE RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PURVIEW OR THE INVESTIGATION OR ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES THE INVESTIGATION FROM ITS INITIAL POINT, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED MOVING FORWARD.

WE RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND WE CONFIRMED A CRITICAL INCIDENT HAD OCCURRED.

UH, A ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRY WAS INITIATED BY AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT ON CASE NUMBER 26 DASH 0 1 8 7 5.

SUBSEQUENTLY ON THE 27TH, WE RECEIVED AN EXTERNAL COMPLAINT FROM A COMPLAINANT, UH, WHO WANTED TO FILE A COMPLAINT.

WE TOOK THAT COMPLAINT ON TWO SIX DASH 0 1 8 9 3.

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UH, WE FORWARDED, WE DID OUR NORMAL PROTOCOLS, PRELIMINARY REVIEW, AS WELL AS A PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATIONS.

WE ATTEMPTED, UH, AND FORWARDED THE CASE TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.

UH, I HAVE LEARNED THAT THEY HAVE SINCE, AND IT'S PART OF THEIR PROCESS.

USUALLY WHEN WE FORWARD A COMPLAINT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND THEY ALREADY HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION, THEY COMBINE THE COMPLAINTS IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM SO THAT IT CAN BE RECOGNIZED THAT THEY ARE LINKED TO ONE ANOTHER.

THEY CLOSE OUR EXTERNAL COMPLAINT AND CONTINUE WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE INQUIRY.

WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR CASE OPEN.

SO OUR COMPLAINT IS STILL AN OPEN, UH, CONSIDERED AN OPEN INVESTIGATION ON OUR PART.

UH, AS OF TODAY, WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT 11 EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS ON THE SAME INCIDENT.

ALL OF THOSE COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UH, ONE AS A NOTICE OF COMPLAINT, THE OTHERS AS A COMMUNITY CONCERN BECAUSE THERE WAS ALREADY A FOUNDATIONAL COMPLAINT THAT HAD BEEN ADMINISTERED.

UH, TO DATE.

WITH RESPECT TO THE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY INTERVIEWS OR ANY ACTIVE, UH, INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED.

UH, AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE CASE IS ASSIGNED TO ME AS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

MOST OF THE CRITICAL INCIDENTS ARE ASSIGNED TO MYSELF OR THE DIRECTOR.

SO I OR THE DIRECTOR WILL PARTICIPATE IN ALL INTERVIEWS OF ACT OF, OF OFFICERS INVOLVED, AS WELL AS WITNESSES.

UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE CASE FROM BEGINNING TO END.

AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE REALLY TO REPORT WITH RESPECT TO THE INVESTIGATION QUESTIONS? NO.

UH, COMMISSIONER, WELCOME.

YES.

UM, BY THE WAY, UM, SORRY.

SO WANNA WELCOME COMMISSIONER DE A PASS JUST JOINED.

GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER EUGENE.

YES.

SO, UM, AM I TO UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU SAY NO INVESTIGATIONS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED IN NO INTERVIEWS, I THINK IS WHAT NO INTERVIEWS TO NO INTERVIEWS? CORRECT.

OKAY.

IS, IS, IS THAT, UM, WHAT IS THAT STANDARD FOR, AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS? IS THAT A COMMON, UH, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON AND A PD MAY SPEAK TO IT MORE BECAUSE THERE'S GENERALLY AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION.

AND KEEP IN MIND, WE'RE PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION, BUT THERE'S A PARALLEL CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

GENERALLY WHEN THERE'S A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION ALONG WITH AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIONS, THE ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION DEFER TO THE CRIMINAL.

SO THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF ACTION TAKING PLACE ON THE CRIMINAL SIDE, BUT WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, COMMANDER BERGESON AND HERE FROM A PD AND HE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK FURTHER, BUT IT IS PRETTY CUSTOMARY WITH RESPECT TO OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR A PO BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH A PD? OKAY, GO AHEAD.

THIS IS LEE, UH, COMMISSIONER PETERMAN.

UM, WHEN, WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT, WOULD THAT OBVIOUSLY AT SOME POINT WOULD COME TO US FOR, UH, FOR OUR REVIEW OR ANY IDEA HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE? UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA, BUT OUR PROCESS AND OUR POLICY IS, UH, WHEN THE COMPLETED INVESTIGATION IS FORWARDED TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, WE THEN FORWARD IT TO THE CPRC FOR REVIEW.

OKAY.

THANKS.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL BERGESON.

I'M THE COMMANDER OVER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS WITH THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE HERE WITH ME, SERGEANT CONSTABLE, WHO'S AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS SERGEANT AND INVESTIGATOR FOR THIS CASE.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT WE DO RUN CONCURRENT INVESTIGATIONS WITH THE DA'S OFFICE WITH OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT.

UM, AND OUR SIDE WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS SIMPLY TO LOOK FOR ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY VIOLATIONS.

SO WE ALWAYS YIELD OUR INVESTIGATIONS TO THE CRIMINAL PORTION SO AS NOT TO INTERFERE WITH THAT INVESTIGATION.

UM, WE WILL YET DEFINITELY TURN THIS OVER TO YOU AS WE DO WITH, WITH EVERY CASE, UM, AS SOON AS THE INVESTIGATION'S COMPLETE, BUT BEFORE DISCIPLINE IS ISSUED.

AND WHEN WE'RE INVESTIGATING THIS, THE CHIEF TYPICALLY HAS 365 DAYS TO IMPOSE DISCIPLINE.

HOWEVER, IN THESE CRITICAL INCIDENT CASES, THEY TEND TO GO LONGER AS WE'RE WAITING FOR THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION TO FINISH.

UH, WHEN WE DO THAT, WE GENERALLY GET APPROVAL FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND FILE A LETTER WITH THEIR OFFICE.

AND THAT LETS US, UH, MAINTAIN THE INVESTIGATION OF THE CASE UNTIL CLOSURE.

SO, UM, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THAT'S NICE.

COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A CONCURRENT CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION

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AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED BY, UH, A PD INTERNAL AFFAIRS WITH EVERY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OR CRITICAL INCIDENT.

THE IT, IT'S LOOKED AT VERY THOROUGHLY WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND WITH SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT, WE WANT TO CONDUCT A THOROUGH, NEUTRAL AND FACT FINDING INVESTIGATION.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT, THEY LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS THAT OCCURRED.

AND I'M SURE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS LOOKING INTO THAT AS WELL.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ANY HAVE OCCURRED, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AND WE'LL HANDLE THAT APPROPRIATELY AS THEY SEE, UH, AS THAT COMES TO THEIR ATTENTION.

UH, AND WE AS NO ONE SHOULD HAVE INSIGHT TO AN ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

UM, AND TO THE DEGREE THAT IT'S ONGOING, WE WILL HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO THAT.

IT'S JUST LIKE A, A REMINDER AND MAY, MAYBE IT'S A CLARIFICATION THAT, THAT OUR INVOLVEMENT USUALLY IS, IS NOT USUALLY IS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE PORTION OF IT.

AND I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE'S SOME CONFUSION CITY-WISE, AND PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE CLEAR THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH THE, THE, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DISMISSAL OR NOT OF THESE OFFICERS, WHATEVER.

AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE, THE CRIMINAL PORTION OF IT IS, IS, IS IS SEPARATE AND WE HAVE NO JU JURISDICTION IN THAT AREA.

DID I CLARIFY THAT? OH, YES.

YEAH.

THANKS.

I KNOW IT WASN'T SO MUCH FOR YOU, BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETIMES FOR THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT'S, SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT CLEAR.

SO, UH, QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE UP HERE SPEAKING WITH YOU AND, AND, AND I DO WELCOME ANY COMMUNICATION NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.

YOU HAVE MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND I KNOW THAT THE PROCESS OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND THOSE INVESTIGATIONS CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY SOMETIMES, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE.

WELL, UM, THANK YOU.

ALSO, UM, UH, IT SAYS, UH, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, SUNLIGHT IS THE BEST DISINFECTANT.

AND SO YOUR TRANSPARENCY AND AVAILABILITY, I THINK WILL HELP, UM, US NAVIGATE THIS VERY DELICATE SITUATION FOR ALL INVOLVED, UM, ON A PD SIDE, ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE, ON OUR SIDE.

UM, SO APPRECIATE THE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION AND, UH, I'M SURE WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU AGAIN ABOUT THIS MATTER IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH, I, I HAVE, UH, ONE, ONE QUESTION AND, AND, AND THERE THIS, LIKE, IT'S A MATTER OF PROCEDURE, BUT, UH, SINCE WE, WHEN WE ARE ALLOWED TO REVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING CASES, AND SO YOU GET TO SEE SOMETIMES THERE'S A QUESTIONNAIRE, UH, THAT'S USED AS STANDARD FOR, AND IT'S CUSTOMIZED FOR EACH OFFICER AND SO FORTH.

AND OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE THERE AFTER WE REVIEW IT, YOU LOOK BACK AND ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE NOT AN ASKED, I WOULD, AND I WOULD BE, I WOULD LIE TO YOU IF I, IF I WOULDN'T SAY THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATION NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE EARLY ENOUGH IN A PROCESS WHERE YOU COULD ADD SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND THOSE QUESTIONS, THE, THE OFFICER INVOLVED ARE GONNA SEE THEM BEFOREHAND AND THEIR ATTORNEYS ARE GONNA SEE THEM BEFOREHAND.

SO THERE'S, THERE WOULD BE NO HARM IF THESE QUESTIONS ARE, ARE A PRIORI, UM, UH, ADDED TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

AND, AND ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS I'LL TELL YOU UPFRONT, FOR ME, IT'S ALWAYS, UM, I THINK I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY SOME OF THE TRAINING AND OFFICERS ON HOW TO INITIATE WHEN TO TRY TO DECIDE WHEN, UH, A SHOOTING SHOULD OCCUR, WHEN THERE'S DANGER, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S ENOUGH DANGER THAT SHOULD MERITS USING, UH, LEGAL FORCE.

WHAT I'M, WHAT I HAVE A HARDER TIME UNDERSTANDING IS THE TRAINING AND THE UNIFORMITY IN DECIDING HOW TO REASSESS AFTER I SHOT THE FIRST TIME AND HOW TO DECIDE WHEN I STOP TO REASSESS AGAIN.

AND SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD, I'VE, I, YOU KNOW, IN A LIMITED ANECDOTAL NUMBER OF CASES I'VE SEEN, SOMETIMES THEY'VE BEEN ASKED AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED, YOU KNOW, AND SO THOSE ARE, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS SOMEONE WHO'S GONNA BE REVIEWING THIS AFTER IT'S DONE AFTER THE FACT, I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE WISH THAT THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED ARE COMPREHENSIVE, AND THAT'S MAYBE THE BEST ONE STATEMENT.

IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT A STATEMENT I LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE.

SO, SURE.

THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT TYPICALLY, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A CASE WHERE THE OFFICER THAT GETS, UH, THE QUESTIONS ASKED OF THEM OR THEIR ATTORNEY GET THE QUESTIONS PRIOR, I THINK THE QUESTIONS

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COME DURING THE TIME OF THE INTERVIEW FOR THEM.

OH, I, OKAY.

YES, SIR.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY SURPRISED.

WELL, THEY USE, OKAY, LEMME THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD CLARIFICATION.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE A, THEY'RE ASKED TO REVIEW, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REVIEW THE EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED.

THEY SEE THE BODY CAMERA AGAIN AND SO FORTH, SO THAT THERE'S, AND THAT IS FAIR, SO THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THEY'VE SEEN IT.

I JUST ASSUME THAT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, THE ATTORNEYS WILL HAVE THEM BEFOREHAND, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN THIS, IN THIS.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I THINK THAT THEY CAN PROBABLY ANTICIPATE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE MAY ASK, ESPECIALLY BASED ON PREVIOUS SITUATIONS THAT ARE SIMILAR, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE SET OF QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK FOR THAT SITUATION.

RIGHT.

AND SO THESE QUESTIONS, UH, THE LIST OF QUESTIONS PUT UP TOGETHER, IS THIS, THAT'S DONE BY THE INVESTIGATOR, THE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM, DECIDE WHAT QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO ASK OR NOT? YES, SIR.

THAT, UH, THE QUESTIONS GO TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, UH, OVER THE OFFICER, AND WE TRY AND GET A VERY COMPREHENSIVE SET OF QUESTIONS THAT OCCASIONALLY WE WILL MISS THINGS, BUT WE DEFINITELY TRY TO IMPROVE EACH TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

OKAY.

SO WHEN I SEE IN A CASE THAT A QUESTION LIKE THAT WAS, WELL, HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO STOP? OR WHAT MADE YOU, WHAT, WHAT REASSESSMENT THAT QUESTION IS NOT ASKED, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATIVE OFFICER IN THAT CASE DID NOT JUST, DID NOT DECIDE TO, TO ADD IT TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE.

IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? I'M NOT SURE I, WITHOUT A SPECIFIC INSTANCE, I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN COMMENT ON THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, TO ME, I, I THINK THOSE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO START ASKING BECAUSE I QUES UH, I WAS RECENTLY INVOLVED IN, UH, AUDITING OF THE POLICE ACADEMY PROCESS, AND THEY LOOKED AT, TRY TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

NOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IS HOW MUCH TRAINING OR POLICE GIVEN IN THE PROCESS OF ONCE INITIATED, HOW DO YOU REASSESS, RE RESET? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT WORD USED IN MULTIPLE THINGS ABOUT CONSTANTLY REASSESS THE SITUATION, WHETHER IT'S ESCALATION OR SOMETHING.

THIS SEEMED TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES IN WHICH ONE WOULD HOPE TO SEE SOME KIND OF UNIFORMITY.

AND MY, MY SIMPLE CIVILIAN VIEW OF IT IS THAT WHEN I SEE SECONDS BETWEEN OFFICERS STARTING TO SHOOT, I MEAN, OH, THEY, THEY CLEARLY KNOW, THEY ALL KIND OF AGREE, THERE'S SOME UNDERSTANDING OF DANGER.

BUT WHEN I SEE, UH, THIS PART NOW OF A LARGE NUMBER OF THINGS BETWEEN HOW MANY ONE, HOW MANY ONE PERSON SHOT ONCE, ONE PERSON SHOT 17 TIMES AND VICE VERSA, A ONE PERSON STOPS SHOOTING AND THE PEOPLE KEEP SHOOTING.

IT SEEMS THAT MAYBE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DECIDING HOW TO ASSESS IT, THERE'S LACK OF TRAINING AND THAT'S JUST IS PUTTING OUT THERE.

AND I WISH, I'M HOPING THAT THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ASK TO THESE OFFICERS, DO THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND LIKE TO EXPLAIN IF IT'S PART OF THEIR TRAINING OR IT'S PART OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL FAILING IN SOME OF THESE DECISIONS.

SO, THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, ASK QUESTIONS.

WE'RE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE THEM SHOW UP IN FORCE HERE.

SO PLEASE, UH, DON'T BE SHY.

WELL, SOMEONE, SOMEONE SAID, SORRY.

UM, SOMEONE SAID THAT THERE WAS 11 ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE.

IN YOUR INVESTIGATION, DO YOU LOOK AT THOSE COMPLAINTS AND KIND OF TAILOR, MAYBE TAILOR YOUR QUESTIONS AROUND SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE JUST GENERAL COMPLAINTS OR IF THEY'RE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, KNOW BYSTANDERS OR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, WITNESSES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT, DO YOU, DO YOU INCLUDE ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD WHEN YOU DO THESE QUES PUT THESE QUESTIONS TOGETHER? YEAH, THAT WAS ME.

UH, COMMISSIONER, I REPORTED THAT WE RECEIVED 11, 11 ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS INCIDENT.

NONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WERE WITNESSES.

MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS, OR ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS WERE PEOPLE WHO HEARD OR SAW THE INCIDENT ON THE NEWS.

UH, AND BASED ON THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION, THEY FILED A COMPLAINT.

UH, WE WILL DO A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT CAME IN, WHICH IS WHY WE KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T ACTUAL WITNESSES.

THEY WERE MORE THIRD PARTY HEARSAY TYPE COMPLAINTS.

AND THEN WE FORWARD 'EM DOWN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NO, AND WE DO HAVE ACCESS WHENEVER INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS DOING A, AN INTERVIEW.

WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO THE QUESTIONS BEFOREHAND.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE BOTH A PO AND A PD.

THE LAST,

[9. Update from the CPRC Year in Review Working Group regarding preparation of the Commission's Year in Review report.]

UH, ITEM WE HAVE ON AGENDA IS, UM, WELL NEXT AND LAST IS THE WORKING GROUP UPDATE.

UM, WE WANNA UPDATE A-C-P-R-C YEAR IN REVIEW WORKING GROUP.

UH, THIS IS ITEM NINE.

WE, UH, WORKING GROUP REGARDING PREPARATIONS OF THE COMMISSION'S YEAR IN REVIEW REPORT.

COMMISSIONER EUGENE IBI, YOUR CHAMPION? YEAH, I CAN GIVE IT BACK.

THANK YOU.

UM,

[00:55:01]

UPDATE, UM, WE'D STILL LIKE TO GET COMMISSIONER'S INPUT.

UH, AGAIN, I WILL RESEND THE, UH, INPUT FORM, UH, LIMITED INPUT TO DATE.

AND THEN I'VE SENT A REQUEST TO OPO FOR, UM, SPECIFIC INFORMATION, NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS WE'VE ISSUED, UH, COMMISSIONER TENURE, UH, MOSTLY LOGISTICAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR REPORT.

AND, UH, ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION BEFORE OUR NEXT, UM, OUR NEXT MEETING.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE, WE WE'RE TARGETING TO TRY TO GET THAT REPORT OUT, UM, BY, BY THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING.

YEAH, BY THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING.

SO STAY TUNED.

UH, COMMISSIONER, CAN I ASK YOU, HOW MANY COMMISSIONERS OF THE 11 HAVE RESPONDED TO YOUR REQUEST ON AND SENT FEEDBACK? UM, LESS THAN A, LESS THAN A QUORUM.

I'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT.

.

SO THAT'S LESS THAN SIX, IS THAT AT MOST? FIVE AT MOST.

OKAY.

SO PLEASE A REMINDER OF THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER, SOME OF YOU I KNOW HAVE BEEN ON FOR LESS THAN A YEAR, BUT PLEASE TRY TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE, HAVE QUESTIONS ADD TO YOUR IMPRESSIONS ON THE LESS THAN PERFECT, UH, CPRC PROCESS SO FAR.

IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON, SO ARE REFERRING TO ITEM NUMBER NINE? OKAY.

FINALLY, WE'D LIKE TO,

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

I GUESS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I WANNA MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY, UM, REQUESTS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR NEXT, UH, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE'LL BE, UM, LOOKING AT TWO APPROVALS OR TWO MINUTES.

THIS ONE AND LAST, NOT LAST ONE, BUT ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE ON THE AGENDA, HAVE PLACED ON THE AGENDA, THE REVIEW OF THE NACO CONFERENCE, UH, AT THE NOVEMBER 20TH, 2026 MEETING.

OKAY.

NOTED.

OTHER RECOMMENDED AGENDA ITEMS GOING ONCE.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I WOULD LIKE TO, I GUESS, UM, MOTION TO ADJOURN.

NEED A SECOND? SECOND.

UH, PLEASE.

ALTHOUGH THOSE ARE THAT, UH, UM, AGREE AND ADJOURNING, RAISE YOUR HANDS.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

I GUESS THAT'S, UH, CORE, MY MAJORITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE MEETING IS ADJOURN.

UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.