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RIGHT.[CALL TO ORDER]
IS 6:01 PM I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.IT IS WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH, 2026.
WE ARE AT THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, ROOM 1405 AT 6 3 1 0 WILLAMINA DELCO DRIVE.
AND WE WILL START BY ESTABLISHING QUORUM.
UM, AND ON THAT NOTE, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A POINT OF PRIVILEGE TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER ATKINS, WHO'S JOINING US AS THE NEW D SIX REPRESENTATIVE.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO JUST SHARE A FEW SENTENCES ABOUT WHAT BRINGS YOU TO THIS WORK, WE'D LOVE TO GET TO KNOW YOU BETTER.
APOLOGIES, I COULDN'T MAKE IT IN PERSON.
I ALSO STARTED A NEW JOB THIS WEEK, SO PACKED WEEK, I'D SAY THE LEAST.
UM, BUT YEAH, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
I'VE WORKED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL SPACE AS AN ACTIVIST AND IN, UH, THE NONPROFIT WORLD AS A RESEARCHER AT VARIOUS SMALL THINK TANKS OVER THE YEARS.
UM, SO JUST VERY, VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE, ESPECIALLY, UM, IN SUCH LIKE A GROWING CITY IN SUCH AN INTERESTING TIME FOR ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY.
AND I'LL ALSO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER FIERRO JOINING US ON THE DAIS VIRTUALLY.
WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMUNICATION CHAIR NOLAN HAS SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? APPROVAL MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
[2. Conduct a public hearing and approve a recommendation to Council regarding approval or denial of a wastewater service extension request for 1107 Castle Ridge Road, Austin, Texas, 78746. Presentation by Kaela Champlin, Environmental Program Coordinator, Austin Watershed Protection.]
TO MOVE TO A PUBLIC HEARING.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL REGARDING APPROVAL OR DENIAL OF A WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 1 1 0 7 CASTLE RIDGE ROAD, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7 8 7 4 6.
PRESENTATION BY KAYLA CHAPLIN, ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR, COORDINATOR, AUSTIN WATERSHED PROTECTION.
MY NAME IS CALEB CHAMPLIN, AND I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM COORDINATOR WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.
AND TONIGHT I WILL BE PRESENTING ON A WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 1107 CASTLE BRIDGE ROAD.
I'M GONNA GIVE A QUICK PRIMER ON SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.
UH, SO A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, AND I MIGHT SHORTEN IT TO SER AFTER THIS 'CAUSE IT'S A BIT OF A MOUTHFUL.
UM, IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR CITY WATER OR WASTEWATER SERVICE FROM A PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER.
AND IT'S REQUIRED WHEN A PROPERTY IS MORE THAN 100 FEET FROM AN ACCESSIBLE WATER WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
OR IF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T ADEQUATE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT DEMANDS, IT MAY INVOLVE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW LINE OR ASSOCIATED FACILITY, OR UPGRADES TO EXISTING LINES OR FACILITIES.
AND THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR THE ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE AS OUTLINED IN THE SER REQUEST.
SO, AN SER REQUIRES COUNCIL APPROVAL IF IT IS LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION, AUSTIN WATER AND WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF REVIEW PLAN THE PLANS AND PRESENT THE STAFF FINDINGS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION.
AND BOTH OF THESE COMMISSIONS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EITHER SUPPORT OR DENIAL BEFORE THEY GO ON TO COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL.
AND NO CONDITIONS CAN BE PLACED ON SCRS PER STATE LAW.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU'RE MAKING YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THIS EVENING.
SO THIS REQUEST IS JUST FOR WASTEWATER SERVICE.
UM, IT'S A 2.85 ACRE SITE AND IT'S IN THE CITY'S TWO MILE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ETJ.
UH, IT'S IN THE BARTON CREEK WATERSHED, BARTON SPRING ZONE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE, THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, AND IT IS SUBJECT TO THE SAVE
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OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE.THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, HAS, IS PLANNING TO SUBDIVIDE THE 2.85 ACRE LOT.
THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED, AND THEN THE TRACK WILL BE REDEVELOPED WITH THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH DRIVEWAYS AND A FIRE TRUCK TURNAROUND ENTRANCE.
THEY'RE JUST REQUESTING THE WASTEWATER SERVICE AND, UH, FROM THE CITY.
AND THEN TRAVIS COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 10 WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE RETAIL WATER SERVICE TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, SO THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU
UM, THIS, THIS, UH, REQUEST SER REQUEST HAS COME THROUGH THIS COMMISSION A FEW TIMES IN THE PAST.
SO THE INITIAL REQUEST, UH, IT'S IDENTICAL.
IT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 10TH, 2024, BUT IT SUBSEQUENTLY EXPIRED.
AND THE, THE OWNER LATER SUBMITTED ANOTHER SER, UH, WHICH WAS ALSO THE SAME.
UH, IT WAS DENIED BY CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 23RD, 2026 OVER CONCERNS RELATED TO THE ABILITY FOR THE PROPERTY TO REMOVE ITSELF FROM THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
UM, SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT SCR WAS DENIED, THE OWNER REQUESTED REMOVAL FROM THE TWO MILE ETJ, UM, BUT FOUND OUT THAT, UH, THEY WERE DENIED DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THE B CAVES ARMORY.
I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT LATER IN MY PRESENTATION.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IT'S IN THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE.
AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN GROWTH CONCEPT MAP.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT'S HATCHED IN PINK.
AND THE DASHED RED IS THE, UH, STAFF PROPOSED WASTEWATER EXTENSION.
UH, THE STAFFER CON, ALSO WATER STAFFER PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT 760 FEET OF GRAVITY WASTEWATER MAINE FROM THE EXISTING EIGHT INCH GRAVITY WASTEWATER MAINE, LOCATED IN WHITE MARCH VALLEY WALK.
AND THEN IT WILL EXTEND NORTH AND THROUGH THE SUBJECT TRACT TO CASTLE RIDGE ROAD.
SO, WATERSHED PROTECTION EVALUATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UH, TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE SITE THAT CONTAINS SLOPES GREATER THAN 15%.
THERE ARE NO CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES LOCATED ON THE SITE, AND THERE ARE NO CREEKS OR TRIBUTARIES ON THE SITE.
SO THERE ARE NO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE OR WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE.
THE SITE ALSO DOES NOT CONTAIN, UH, DRAIN TO OCCUPIED SALAMANDER HABITAT.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE INVENTORY CONDUCTED BY THE APPLICANT CONFIRMED THAT IT'S PREDOMINANTLY UNCONFIRMED HABITAT ZONE TWO FOR GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER.
AND THERE'S A, A SMALL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT CONTAINS CONFIRMED HABITAT ZONE ONE FOR GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER HABITAT.
THIS IS A MAP SHOWING, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY, AND THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO IF, UH, COUNCIL DECIDES NOT TO GRANT THIS WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, UH, WE TYPICALLY EVALUATE WHAT ALTERNATIVES COULD HAPPEN ON THIS, ON THE SITE.
SO, UM, TYPICALLY THE KIND OF THE TWO COMMON ONES ARE TEXAS LAND APPLICATION PERMIT, WHICH IS, UH, PERMITTED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OR AN ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITY OR OSSF.
UM, SO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THIS, THIS KIND OF THE SIZE OF THIS PROJECT, IT'S THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE FLOW, THE WASTEWATER FLOW ISN'T HIGH ENOUGH, UH, FOR A LAND APPLICATION PERMIT.
SO THAT ISN'T BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS CASE.
MOST LIKELY WHAT IT WOULD BE IS A ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITY.
UH, SO IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE TRAVIS COUNTY RULES REQUIRE A LOT SIZE OF AT LEAST ONE ACRE PER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A REDESIGN BECAUSE THIS LOT IS 2.85 ACRES.
SO THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO DO TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, UNDER THIS SCENARIO.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY REDUCE THE TOTAL IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SITE.
UM, FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD JUST MAYBE BE TWO LARGER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES INSTEAD OF THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
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UM, SOILS, THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER HERE IS, IS THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS VERY THIN AND ROCKY SOILS THAT ARE NOT IDEAL FOR EITHER OF THESE KINDS OF SYSTEMS. AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH ABSORPTION IN FOR SEPTIC TANKS AND POND CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE BEDROCK IS VERY SHALLOW.UM, THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS ALSO ARE, UH, MORE INVOLVED BECAUSE, UH, THE, BECAUSE OF THOSE UNDERLYING SOILS.
AND OVER TIME THIS CAN LEAD TO SOIL PIPING AND PREFERENTIAL FLOW PATHS, UH, WHICH CAN ALLOW WASTEWATER TO MIGRATE BELOW THE SURFACE.
AND IT REALLY RELIES ON THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE HOMEOWNER TO MAINTAIN THOSE SYSTEMS OVER TIME.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE RISK THERE.
UM, I WILL JUST MENTION THOUGH, UH, THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THESE SYSTEMS. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO, PREVIOUSLY, UH, WA AUSTIN WATERSHED PROTECTION DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SCRS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED DUE PRIMARILY DUE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE TWO MILE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
SO SINCE THEN, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO PETITION FOR REMOVAL BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE B CAVES ARMORY.
SO BASED ON THAT NEW INFORMATION, THE OWNER WILL BE REQUIRED TO COME THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS AND COMPLY WITH THE APPLICABLE, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE ETJ.
SO THIS WOULD INCLUDE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS SUCH AS OUR IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS CREEK AND CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE PROTECTIONS, STORMWATER QUALITY TREATMENT STANDARDS, CUT AND FILL LIMITS, AND SLOPE PROTECTIONS.
SO OUR CONCERNS ABOUT COMPLIANCE RELATED TO THIS, THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE NO LONGER APPLICABLE AND WE ARE ABLE TO RECOMMEND SUPPORT FOR APPROVAL.
AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MAP SHOWING, UH, THE PROPERTY AND IT'S, IT'S LOCATED IN THE CAMELOT SUBDIVISION.
IT'S ADJACENT TO THE HILLS OF LOST CREEK.
SO IN CONSIDERATION, I'M SORRY, CONSIDERATION OF ALL THESE FACTORS, UH, RELATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AUSTIN WATER AND WATERSHED PROTECTION ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 1107 CASTLE RIDGE ROAD.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
UM, NICOLE, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTERS FOR THIS ITEM CHAIR? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
AND I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE COMMISSIONER MORRISON ON THE DIOCESE VIRTUALLY AND SECRETARY QURESHI HERE IN PERSON.
UM, WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AND I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER FLURY.
UM, I GUESS A QUESTION, ONCE WE EXTEND THE, THE SERVICE, DOES THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO IT NOW ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT WASTE, UH, WATER EXTENSION? SO IS THAT NOW ALSO UP FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT? THE PROP, THE CURRENT REQUEST IS JUST FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I CA MAY, MAYBE KATIE FROM AUSTIN WATER, KATIE FRAZIER, SHE MAYBE, UM, PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE CONTEXT FROM AUSTIN WATER'S SIDE, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL SER FOR, TO BRING ON MORE PROPERTIES.
MY NAME IS KATIE FRAZIER, SUPERVISING ENGINEER OF THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST GROUP FOR AUSTIN WATER.
UM, I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS IS IF THE WASTEWATER MAIN IS EXTENDED, WOULD THIS PROVIDE SERVICE TO OTHER PROPERTIES? UM, SO LET'S SEE.
THERE ARE ALREADY SOME, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IS SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG WHITE MARCH VALLEY WAY, WHICH IS WHERE THIS LINE WOULD BE EXTENDED FROM, ARE ALREADY CONNECTED TO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
AND LET'S SEE, THE WAY DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A COPY OF THE MAP? OKAY.
SO THERE IS A PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF THIS WASTEWATER MAIN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE ACCESS TO IT BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD BE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THAT LINE.
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SO DEPENDING ON IF IT WAS, IF THAT REMAINED A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, LIKELY AN SCR WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED IN THAT CASE BECAUSE THE LINE WOULD BE ADEQUATE, ADEQUATELY SIZED.UM, IF THERE WERE TO BE A REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST TO SEE IF THE CAPACITY WAS ADEQUATE.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? IT, IT DOES.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING BY LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT, THAT, UM, PROPERTY TO THE EAST MM-HMM
BECOMES, UH, I GUESS IT, UH, IS, IT'S ACCESSIBLE, THE SER LINE FOR IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER LUKI? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? WELL, I JUST WANNA REPEAT WHAT I HEARD EARLIER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE OF THE THIN SOILS, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE WASTEWATER LINE IS A BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL ANSWER TO REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND, AND WHAT IS THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AT THIS LOCATION? I, WE DO NOT HAVE AN IMPERVIOUS COVER EXHIBIT FOR THIS PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
THERE, THERE ISN'T INACTIVE, UM, SITE PLAN WITH THE CITY.
WELL THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
WITH REGARD TO, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR WHATEVER THE NON SEWAGE LINE SOLUTION IS, THERE ARE SYSTEMS OUT THERE THAT DO IT THAT WAY.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I MEAN, PEOPLE USE ONSITE WASTEWATER PROCESSING OUT THERE IN THAT AREA.
I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU, UH, KAYLA MENTIONING THAT DURING YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, YES, THERE ARE OSSF SYSTEMS IN, IN THIS AREA.
AND ARE THOSE RULES SET BY TRAVIS COUNTY AND TCEQ? THEY ARE DEFINITELY SET BY TCQI BELIEVE THE REGULATED, THE DELEGATED REGULATING AUTHORITY OF THAT.
IT WOULD BE TRAVIS COUNTY BECAUSE THIS IS TWO MILE ETJ.
SO THE TRAVIS COUNTY SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE, UH, PROPERTY SIZE IN ORDER TO PROPERLY TREAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE WATER, YOU KNOW, THE WASTEWATER OUT OF IT, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTY IN ORDER TO SET UP A, A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT HAS THE CAPACITY TO TREAT THAT BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THE, IN THE HOME AND ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF.
AND THERE'S ALREADY OPERATING SEPTIC SYSTEMS OUT IN THERE AT THAT AREA.
AND THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT THOSE ARE FAILING AT AN ABNORMAL RATE AS LONG AS THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAINTAIN THOSE, UH, UNDER THE SPECIFICATION THAT THEY'RE BUILT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, THERE ARE CONCERNS DUE TO THE TYPE OF SOIL OUT THERE AND JUST THE LACK OF DATA, UM, ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SYSTEMS. BUT LACK OF DATA, WHO COLLECTS THE DATA THERE? TCQ? YEAH, TCEQ.
BUT TYPICALLY AFTER IT'S INSTALLED IT THERE, THERE'S NOT ONGOING, UM, DATA THAT'S SUBMITTED TO THE TCEQ.
SO I GUESS THE POINT I'M GETTING AT IS THAT, UH, THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING ONSITE WATER TREATMENT OR WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS OUT THERE, AND THERE'S GUIDELINES THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO, TO EXECUTE AGAINST IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THOSE SYSTEMS UP TO, YOU KNOW, UP TO SNUFF.
AND THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM IS USED THROUGHOUT WESTERN TRAVIS COUNTY, WHERE THE SOILS ARE PROBABLY IN A VERY SIMILAR STATE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO OBVIOUS REASON THAT, YOU KNOW, COMPELLING REASON TO EXTEND WASTEWATER PIPES OUT THERE.
UM, IF I MAY, LIZ JOHNSTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, WE DO SEE, UM, ISSUES WITH THESE TYPE OF SYSTEMS, WHETHER ANY KIND OF LAND APPLICATION OF WASTEWATER HAS THE POTENTIAL TO NOT BE INSPECTED, NOT BE MAINTAINED, AND INCREASE, SLOWLY, INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF, UM, POLLUTANTS THAT ENTER THE RECEIVING WATER BODY OVER TIME.
UM, AND SO IT IS A BALANCE, YOU KNOW, IN ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL.
WE WOULD USUALLY ALWAYS, UM, RECOMMEND AUSTIN WATER PROVIDE, UM, THEIR SERVICE, UM,
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ASSUMING THAT THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK IS THE SAME.SO IN THIS CASE, PREVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND IT BECAUSE IT, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO EASILY NOT MEET THE AVER SPRINGS ORDINANCE, BUT NOW THAT THEY CANNOT REMOVE THEMSELVES FROM THE ETJ, UM, OUR PREFERENCE AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THEY, UH, DO HAVE SERVICE FROM AUSTIN WATER.
IS THIS PART OF LOST CREEK THAT, UH, VOTED THEMSELVES OFF THE ISLAND? NO, IT IS NOT.
LET'S GO TO COMMISSIONER CHANG.
UH, THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER MORRISON, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FIERRO.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER ATKINS, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.
HEY, Y'ALL APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
UH, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
WELL, I GUESS THIRD TIME'S A CHARM WITH THIS ONE, HUH? UM, WE'VE SEEN THIS, THIS IS OUR THIRD TIME TO SEE THIS.
SO, UM, I, I WAS KIND OF JOKING, UM, EARLIER THAT, UH, I COULD PROBABLY DO THIS PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL,
UM, SO ONE OF MY THINGS THAT I, I DON'T THINK I WAS CLEAR ON LAST TIME IS, UM, WILL THE SCR PASS THROUGH THE WATER QUALITY TRANSITIONS ZONE AS IT IS RIGHT ALONG WHITE MAR, WHITE MARSH VALLEY WALK? 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT DOES HERE.
IT WOULD NEED TO MAKE A CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING WASTEWATER LINE.
AND SO DEPENDING ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE EXACTLY IT IS, IF IT IS CONFIRMED TO BE WITHIN THE TRANSITION ZONE, THEN, THEN YES, IT WOULD.
UM, SO IN ANSWER TO, UM, COMMISSIONER PRIMER'S QUERY ABOUT FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN THIS AREA, UH, WHEN MY MOM WAS, UM, THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR THIS AREA, UH, FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS WERE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT SHE HAD TO DEAL WITH IN THIS AREA IN PARTICULAR.
SO, UM, I, I DEFINITELY HEAR Y'ALL ON, YOU KNOW, DIGGING DOWN INTO THE LIMESTONE, UM, PUTTING IN A SEPTIC SYSTEM, UH, IS, IS, IS DIFFICULT AND PROBABLY MAYBE NOT THE BEST SOLUTION.
UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE SO CLOSE TO, UM, BARTON CREEK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO THAT, IT WOULD JUST SORT OF FLOW RIGHT DOWN INTO BART CREEK THERE.
SO, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IN THAT WATER, UM, CONTAMINATING IT PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO I DEFINITELY HEAR Y'ALL, UM, ON THAT.
UM, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION HERE.
UM, SO YOU SAID THAT THIS WOULD, EVEN IF IT WENT TO TWO HOUSES WITH A ONE ACRE DE DEDICATED TO THE, THE SEPTIC SYSTEM ITSELF, THE DRAIN FIELD, THE WHOLE KIT CABOODLE OF THAT, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE FOOTPRINT, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER WOULD NOT CHANGE, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, VERY PRELIMINARY, UM, CALCULATIONS THAT WE DID, WE BELIEVE THAT THEY COULD DO BOTH OPTIONS.
SO NOW I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO SPECULATE, WHICH I DON'T USUALLY LIKE TO ASK YOU TO DO, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A LOOPHOLE, UH, WITH, UH, WHO CAN AND CANNOT LEAVE THE ETJ.
AND IF YOU ARE NEAR A MILITARY OPERATION OR BASE WITHIN FIVE MILES, YOU CAN'T BE CAS ARMORY, YOU KNOW, HAS IT FALL INTO THAT? I THINK WE'RE, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE ANOTHER ONE THAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY AT SOME POINT TOO.
AND, UM, IT FEELS LIKE THAT THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOOPHOLE THAT WOULD BE CLOSED BY THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE MAYBE IN 2027.
AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, COULD THIS APPLICANT LEAVE AGAIN? SO OUR CURRENT REVIEW IS BASED ON OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS.
AND SO, SO IN THIS CASE, LIKE IF NEW LEGISLATION WERE TO PASS, IT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.
SO IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SPECULATE WITHOUT HAVING
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MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN THE BILL WOULD BECOME ACTIVE AND, AND ALL OF THE SPECIFICS AND HAVING OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT WEIGH IN ON IT.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SPECULATE BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW
WELL THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
UH, AND UM, JUST AS I HAD CONFLICTING FEELINGS ON IT LAST TIME, I STILL HAVE CONFLICTING FEELINGS TODAY.
I THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE PORTION OF LOT ONE THAT IS IN CONFIRMED HABITAT ZONE ONE FOR GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLERS.
CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT? SO I DID INCLUDE THAT PORTION BECAUSE IT IS OFTEN OF INTEREST TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE REVIEWED BY TRAVIS COUNTY.
SO IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR, OUR REVIEW.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS GETTING TO VICE CHAIR BRISTOL'S QUESTION, IF I UNDERSTOOD IT CORRECTLY.
CAN YOU COMPARE THE POTENTIAL PHYSICAL IMPRINT IN TERMS OF DISTURBANCE AND IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR DOING A SERVICE WASTEWATER EXTENSION REQUEST VERSUS AN OSSF? IS THERE A WAY TO ESTIMATE THAT? SO THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, WHERE THE LINE IS GOING AND, UH, IF THERE ARE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, UM, FOR SOMETHING LIKE AN OSSF OR A LAND APPLICATION, YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE POND, THE SIZE OF THE POND OR THE IRRIGATION AREA, AND ALSO, UH, THE CONDITION OF THAT AREA.
ARE THERE STEEP SLOPES? IS IT ACTUALLY GONNA BE FEASIBLE TO DO ONE THERE? SO, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY LIKE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, BUT WE WOULD KIND OF LOOK AT THE OVERALL CONDITIONS FOR EACH SITUATION AND, AND TRY TO MAKE THE BEST COMPARISON BASED ON THAT.
AND DO WE SEND, DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF TIMING? LIKE IF WE RECOMMEND THIS COUNCIL APPROVES IT, HOW QUICKLY WILL AUSTIN WATER GET TO WORK IF WE, IF WE DO APPROVE IT? SORRY.
SO AUSTIN WATER WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PERMITTING OR CONSTRUCTING THIS LINE.
IT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY, BUT THE SCRS ARE ONLY GOOD FOR 180 DAYS ON THEIR OWN.
SO THEY WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR THE DESIGN OF THIS WASTEWATER LINE, UM, OR A PLAT WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME.
YEAH, I GUESS I'M WONDERING TOO, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL'S POINT AROUND POTENTIAL CHANGES IN THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE CYCLE.
LIKE HOW MUCH OF THIS CAN ACTUALLY BE BUILT IN UPFRONT SO IT BECOMES A MOOT POINT.
UM, SO IN YOUR ESTIMATION, THIS COULD BE DEVELOPED AND ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN MONTHS, IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT THE APPLICANT.
WE'RE TRYING TO OPERATE BASED ON SOME UNKNOWNS.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S HARDER TO SAY.
WHAT I COULD SAY IS THAT IF, IF THIS DOES GET APPROVED BY COUNSEL, UM, ON OCTOBER 22ND, THE EXPIRATION DATE WOULD FALL, THEN, LET'S SEE, MARCH, IS THAT RIGHT? NO, APRIL, LATE APRIL TIMEFRAME.
UM, SO MINIMALLY PLANS OR A PLAT WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED AT THAT TIME.
UM, I DON'T WANNA GUESS ON HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO PERMIT ANYTHING OR GET A PLAT APPROVED.
UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALL I CAN REALLY HELP WITH.
YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS A TRICKY ONE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS CHAIR, KRUGER? I WOULD JUST ADD THAT ANY BILLS THAT WERE TO PASS DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT, I THINK UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER OF 2027.
UM, ON THE CONSTRUCTION IT SAYS 760 FEET.
UM, IS THERE, LIKE, IS THERE A TREE SURVEY THAT GOES ALONG THAT IS, OR ANY TREES LIKE HERITAGE TREES ALONG THAT? WELL, UM, FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A TREE SURVEY.
SO WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, BUT ONCE THEY SUBMIT THERE, THERE COULD, WELL, ACTUALLY NO, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE TWO MILE ETJ.
SORRY, THERE ARE NO TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS IN THE ETJ RE,
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REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION OR NOT.UM, YEAH, I THINK WHEN I, WHEN I HEAR YOU SAY THAT CONSTRUCTION MIGHT START IN IN APRIL AND, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOLDEN CHIEF WARBLER HABITAT AREA, GET A LITTLE TWITCHY.
YEAH, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH, UM, ALL OF THOSE REGULATIONS.
IT'S JUST THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY OVER, UM, ENDANGERED SPECIES, BUT THEY WOULD STILL, UM, NEED TO I, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY THE CORRECT FOLKS, UH, AT THE COUNTY OR FISH AND WILDLIFE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? ALRIGHT, WITH THAT WE HAVE A MOTION SECRETARY KSI.
THIS IS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 2 0 2 6 1 0 0 7 DASH 0 2 11 0 7 CASTLE RIDGE ROAD, WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST NUMBER 6 4 5 1.
WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST OR WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION AT 1107 CASTLE RIDGE ROAD.
AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE BARTON CREEK WATERSHED, BARTON SPRING ZONE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTING ZONE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE AS SUBJECT TO SOS ORDINANCE.
AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DENIED THIS REQUEST IN 2024, AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF NOW DOES RECOMMEND THE WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION, THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DOES NOT RECOMMEND THIS SCR.
IS THERE A SECOND REALLY QUICK, UM, ON THAT LANGUAGE, I PULLED THAT OVER FROM OUR 20 24 1 MM-HMM
SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A SENSE IF WE DO OR DO NOT, JUST SAYING WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
WE CAN GET A SECOND AND THEN HAVE A DISCUSSION AND AMEND THE LANGUAGE IF WE NEED TO.
ALRIGHT, COMM SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
SO NOW WE GO TO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
WAS THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED? OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, WE NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE THE MOTION.
MOVE TO, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
WITH THAT WE WILL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION THAT WE JUST HEARD.
IT WAS MOTIONED BY SECRETARY RESI, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
UM, AND WE GO TO COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION.
SO HOW ARE FOLKS FEELING ABOUT RECOMMENDING OR NOT RECOMMENDING? THERE'S A HISTORY OF THIS COMMISSION NOT RECOMMENDING, AND COUNSEL ALSO DISAPPROVING THE FACTS HAVE CHANGED.
NOW, THIS, THIS LAND HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, KEPT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND NOW HAS TO ABIDE BY CITY OF AUSTIN REGULATIONS.
AND THERE IS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER FUTURE LEGISLATION AT THE STATE LEVEL COULD CHANGE THAT.
SO OPEN TO ANY AND ALL COMMENTS, BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT WE DO HAVE BEFORE US RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE COMMISSION IS NOT RECOMMENDING.
SO IF FOLKS EITHER AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT, LET'S, LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND ADJUST THE LANGUAGE ACCORDINGLY.
WELL,
COMMISSIONER BRIMER, DO YOU HAVE A THOUGHT? I'M SATISFIED WITH THE LANGUAGES.
READ BY, UH, COMMISSIONER CORRECTION.
I'M, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TO FALL WITH COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN ON THIS ONE.
UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IF WE ARE GUARANTEED THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO FOLLOW THEN, UM, THE, ESPECIALLY THE SOS ORDINANCES, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW.
I THINK I'M MORE OKAY WITH THAT.
I THINK, I THINK LAST TIME I, WE JUST REALLY HAD THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE PROBABLY GONNA LEAVE THE ETJ, UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT WAS SORT OF A, A, A NO BRAINER ON THAT ONE.
I, YEAH, I THINK I'M, I'M MORE INCLINED THIS TIME.
OTHER THOUGHTS? ANECDOTALLY, I'M HEARING SOME PEOPLE ON THE FENCE AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE, FOUR, ONE AGAINST ONLINE COMMISSIONERS.
I'LL JUST SAY I SUPPORT THE SAME RATIONALE THAT IT, IT FEELS, UH, MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY APPROPRIATE TO, UH, APPROVE THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.
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QUESTION ABOUT DOES THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UH, CONNECT TO IT, IT, IT, I WAS SEEING US APPROVING THIS, DOES IT LOOK LIKE WE WOULD THEN BE APPROVING A LARGER AREA OF, OF LAND TO BE DEVELOPED? MM-HMMUM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, IT LOOKS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SIZE LOTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND, UM, SEEMS IN LINE WITH, UH, ASSURING LONG-TERM PROTECTION OF THE NEARBY WATER RESOURCES.
WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO READ, THEREFORE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND THIS SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST.
IS THERE A MOTION? I'LL SUPPORT THAT.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE LANGUAGE AS I JUST STATED, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE, UM, HOW MANY FOLKS DO WE HAVE? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO AMENDING THE LANGUAGE AND PARDON? AND ALL THOSE ABSTAINING? YES.
SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION MM-HMM
INSTEAD OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE, OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION AS DEFINED.
SO WITHOUT THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION PASSED.
SO NOW WE WILL CONSIDER, UM, THE MOTION WITH THE SUBSTITUTED LANGUAGE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MOTION AS SUBSTITUTED? SO MADE, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND CHAIR, BRISTOL.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO ROLL CALL VOTE AND WE WILL START ONLINE.
AND THEY BETTER TAKE CARE OF THE BIRDS.
AND I'M ALSO VOTING FOR, SO WITH THAT WE HAVE A 10 0 1 VOTE.
[3. Report of recommendations by the Dog’s Head Working Group.]
WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS, REPORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE DOG'S HEAD WORKING GROUP.UM, AND WE'LL START WITH, UH, A PRESENTATION BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL.
AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER HERE, UM, JUST GENERAL RULES OF DECORUM FOR THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
WE INVITE, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY DEBATE AND DIFFERENCES OF OPINION.
PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE, NOR IS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS FROM THE AUDIENCE SHOUTING THINGS OUT OR APPROACHING, UH, THE DAIS AND THE, THE MICROPHONE WITHOUT INVITATION.
UM, WE'RE EAGER TO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE THREE MINUTES.
FOLKS CAN DONATE TIME, UM, TO BE EITHER UP TO NINE TO 12 MINUTES.
I NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT WE DECIDED AT THE, UM, ANNUAL RETREAT.
UM, FOLKS CAN DONATE TIME IF THEY ARE PRESENT IN PERSON AND UM, OF COURSE THERE CAN BE CHEERING AND CLAPPING AND EVEN BOOING.
BUT AGAIN, NO, NO BACK AND FORTH CROSSTALK PEOPLE APPROACHING THE ES OR PERSONAL ATTACKS THERE.
BE SINGING AND THERE CAN EVEN BE SINGING.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT VICE CHAIR, BRISTOL, DO WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST? I THINK YOU CAN GIVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR BRIEFING AND THEN WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WELL, I KIND OF GAVE THE BRIEFING, BRIEFING AT THE, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING OF JUST SORT OF AN UPDATE.
UH, THAT INFORMATION THAT I GAVE LAST TIME IS IN BACKUP FOR YOUR READING ENJOYMENT.
UM, SO, UH, YEAH, THE WORKING GROUP FORMED, UH, AFTER THE JUNE 17TH MEETING.
UH, WE, WE HAD, UM, BETWEEN, UM, 20 AND 30 MEMBERS, UH, IN THAT WORKING GROUP OFF AND ON.
USUALLY A CORE GROUP OF ABOUT 12.
UH, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE TOURS.
UM, WE CONTINUED MEETING, UM, SO THAT WE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE REGULATING PLAN.
UM, WE FORMED A SMALLER GROUP, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, THAT MET WITH MULTIPLE TIMES, UH, WITH ENDEAVOR.
UH, AND ALONG WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, MARK UCHIN, OFFICE, COUNCIL MEMBER UCHIN, UH, OTHER STAFF, UH, STAFF FROM WATERSHED, UM, AND, UH, TO TRY TO REALLY KIND OF FIGURE OUT THIS WHOLE REGULATING PLAN, UH, IN TALKING WITH STAFF.
UM, THERE REALLY WASN'T NECESSARILY A FORMAT OR FORMULA THAT WE COULD FOLLOW.
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IS SO BIG, UM, IT IS, UM, VERY ENCOMPASSING.UM, AND SO WE, WE DID OUR BEST.
UM, AND WHAT DOES OUR BEST LOOK LIKE? WELL, YOU HAVE IT.
I'M NOT GONNA READ THE ENTIRE THING INTO, UM, INTO, UH, RECORD TODAY BECAUSE IT IS 59 POINTS.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD TIME TO READ IT.
IF YOU DO NEED A DRAFT OF IT, THERE ARE DRAFTS OF IT HERE, UH, THAT PEOPLE, UH, CAN, CAN READ.
HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE COME WITH ANY KIND OF, UM, CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE, UH, TO THIS OR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, OR UPDATES, UM, ON THAT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR PROCESS OR HOW WE ARRIVED AT 59 POINTS? AND JUST QUESTIONS ON PROCESS.
'CAUSE WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT AND THEN WE'LL DO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, THE SUBSTANCE OF IT.
UH, SINCE THERE AREN'T ANY, UM, SHOULD WE, WE WAIT? YEAH.
YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS FOR ITEM THREE, BUT THERE ARE FOR ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS THE OKAY.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN IT TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
AND I'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER BRISTOL FOR HER LEADERSHIP IN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MEETINGS, THINGS SHE PUT TOGETHER ON THAT.
SHE WORKED REALLY HARD IN, UH, KIND OF GUIDING ALL THIS STUFF ALONG AND SHE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB, UH, KIND OF GETTING EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER.
UH, SHE EVEN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WHITTLING THE THING DOWN FROM, I THINK, 65 TO 59.
I KNOW THAT WAS A HERLEY IN EFFORT, UH, ON HER PART, BUT, UH, I SUPPORT ALL THE STUFF THAT'S IN THERE.
UH, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY GOOD JOB.
UH, I KNOW I, I SPOKE TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT IT AND THEY WISHED IT WAS 10
I THINK IT'S LARGELY BECAUSE COUNCIL MEMBERS ONLY HAVE 10 FINGERS AND THEY HAVE HARD TIME COUNTING A NOTE ON THE PERSONAL ATTACKS
I, WE WILL EXCISE THAT PART OF THE, UH, VIDEO.
BUT, UH, IN ANY EVENT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK IT WAS AN EXCELLENT DOCUMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND, AND, UH, CHAIR BRIS OR, UH, KRUEGER WHO WAS PARTICIPATING AS WELL.
SO BOTH OF YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BRIER AND, UM, RIGHT BACK AT YOU.
'CAUSE YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WROTE A LOT OF THIS TOO, AND, UM, YOU WERE FRONT AND CENTER AT ALL THOSE MEETINGS AND, AND REALLY MADE SOME, UH, GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AND, AND REALLY TOOK THE TIME TO READ AND REREAD AND TRIPLE READ, UH, ALL OF THESE THINGS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AS WELL.
AND IT WAS REALLY A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, UH, ALL ALONG THE WAY.
WELL, I READ IT TWICE, UM,
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS IN HERE THAT WE COULD ARGUE OVER, BUT I GUESS YOU GUYS GAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THOSE NUMBERS.
THANK Y'ALL FOR DOING THE HARD WORK TO GET IT WHERE IT IS NOW.
THIS, UH, GIGANTIC DEVELOPMENT REQUIRED A GIGANTIC RESPONSE.
AND, AND I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE BIRD PRESERVE.
IT'S A NICE TOUCH AND ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED, UH, FOR, FOR THAT LOCATION ON THIS PLANET.
UM, YOU HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE REALITY OF WHAT THAT IS.
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO WITH DEVELOPMENT, WE STILL HAVE TO ALWAYS LIVE WITH IT.
AND, AND, UM, IT JUST ENHANCES THAT WHOLE PLACE.
I MEAN, IT WILL, IT WILL GIVE IT ITS OWN RESOLUTION IN, IN, UM, YOU KNOW HOW IT IS YOU DO A THING.
UH, I I'M ON THE, THE, THE MILLER COMMISSION AND WE ARE ABOUT TO PHASE OUT, UH, THE, THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT STARTED WITH BIG STUFF LIKE THIS, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY GOT, UM, GOT, UH, IMPLEMENTED
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AND THEN IT STARTED WINNING ALL THESE AWARDS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO CARED THE MOST ABOUT IT ACTUALLY HAD INPUT ON IT.AND THEN, THEN, AND THAT TURNED OUT TO WORK.
AND THE PROPERTY VALUES OVER THERE ARE EXTRAORDINARY.
NOW, THAT WHOLE TIFF THAT WE BUILT THERE HAS BEEN, IS PAYING BACK IN EARLY, IN ESSENCE.
UH, AND WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT RETIRING AT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS EARLY, WHICH IS UNHEARD OF.
AND I, I HOPE THAT THIS PROJECT, IF IT GOES THROUGH, IF ALL THESE THINGS ACTUALLY OCCUR, THAT IT WILL ACHIEVE THE SAME GOALS OF ACTUALLY DOING THINGS CORRECTLY.
AND SO I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE LIVING NEXT TO THE MILLER DEVELOPMENT LIKE I HAVE FOR, UH, THE WHOLE TIME THAT IT'S BEEN GOING ON, IT'S BEEN A GODSEND TO WINDSOR PARK, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HARRIS'S NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT HAS BEEN EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE UPON A TIME THERE WAS AN AIRPORT THERE, AND NOW IT'S ALL RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE LIVING AND, AND, AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEST PARTS ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.
I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT Y'ALL DOING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FLURRY.
UH, WAS, UH, DOING THE SIGHT SOUNDS AND SMELLS TEST, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE CAPTURED, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, AT ALL OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
I, I WANT TO, I GUESS QUESTION MAKE SURE I'M INTERPRETING THIS, UH, PROPERLY.
SO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 26 IS WHERE IT DOES CALL OUT SOME ACRES FOR PARKLAND, AND THAT TOTALS UP TO 300 ACRES THERE.
UM, AND THEN SECTION RECOMMENDATION 28, UM, HAS SOMETHING ABOUT ONE ADDITIONAL ACRE SHALL BE SET ASIDE PER 2000 RESIDENTS.
AND I, UM, IT'S A METRIC THAT STANDS OUT TO ME, UH, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOOKED OUT OF, UH, ACRES OF PARKLAND PER RESIDENT.
YOU KNOW, CITY OF AUSTIN HAS HAD SOME GOALS THAT CHANGE WITH THE DEDICATION, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION, UH, CHANGES OR WHATNOT.
I THINK THAT NUMBERS HAS VARIED, UH, FROM LIKE 18 ACRES OF PARKLAND PER THOUSAND RESIDENT.
AND SO WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE WE WERE FEELING LIKE WE CAPTURED ENOUGH PARKLAND.
UM, AND SO RIGHT NOW THE DOG'S HEAD DEVELOPMENT, IF I UNDERSTAND, IS TRYING TO, UH, PRO PROMISING 10% PARKLAND.
SO 260 ACRES, UM, 300 DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT MUCH MORE IF I AM CORRECT.
AND, UH, IF, IF THIS IS ALL THE ACRES OF PARKLAND CAPTURED HERE, UM, BUT THAT RECOMMENDATION OF ONE ADDITIONAL ACRE SHALL BE SET ASIDE FOR 2000 RESIDENTS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, IF I'M MISSING, WHAT WERE OUR HOPES FOR TOTAL PARKLAND? YEAH.
UM, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR READING IT VERY THOROUGHLY.
UM, SO YES, THIS WOULD BE, SO THEY HAVE DEDICATED TO THE 10%.
THIS WOULD BE, UM, SO NUMBER 26 WOULD BE, UM, ADDITIONAL PARK LAND, UH, AGAIN, TO MEET THAT NEED OF, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE, WHAT WE RECOMMENDED HERE WAS THAT IT WOULD BE KIND OF SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF ONE, ONE CONTINUOUS ONE.
UM, AGAIN, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR WHEREVER THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS ARE, UH, ACCESS TO THOSE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
NUMBER 28, UM, IS, UM, TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, UH, COMMUNITY GARDENS AND FOOD FOREST.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A LESSER RATE.
UM, SO IT'S AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ACREAGE SET ASIDE FOR 2000 RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, YEAH.
SO IF I HEARD YOU WRITE IT, THE RECOMMENDATION 26 IS IN ADDITION TO THE ALREADY PROMISE.
SO WE'RE MORE OR LESS DOUBLING WHAT THEY HAVE PROMISED TO DO, IS HOW I INTERPRET THAT.
UH, WHY DON'T JUST MAKE SURE WE, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS CLEAR.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO TOOK, YEAH, ECHOING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS JUST FOR THE THOUGHT AND INTENTION THAT WENT INTO, UM, PUTTING THESE TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION THAT IS MADE THROUGH THIS AND AROUND THIS IS GONNA, IS REALLY GONNA IMPACT THAT SORT OF STRETCH OF THE RIVER FOR GENERATIONS.
AND I THINK EVEN IF ONLY A COUPLE OR A HANDFUL OF THOSE,
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UM, OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LIST ARE, ARE END UP BEING, UM, ADOPTED, IT, IT, IT'S STILL GOING TO PUSH THE PROJECT TO BUILD IN A WAY THAT BETTER SERVES THE PEOPLE WHO, UM, LIVE AROUND THERE.SO JUST WANNA EXPRESS MY THANKS AND GRATITUDE FOR YOU ALL PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
SORRY, I LOST MY MOUSE THERE FOR A SEC.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS AS WELL.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY ONE STATEMENT AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, THE STATEMENT IS JUST THAT I, I REALLY APPRECIATE LIKE ALL OF THE CLARIFICATIONS TO THE LANGUAGE.
I THINK WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN THAT.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, UM, YEAH, THINGS CAN JUST BE INTERPRETED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THOSE POINTS THAT MADE SURE TO, TO USE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE.
UM, MY QUESTION WAS, UM, WHAT WAS THE, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU, I GUESS THIS IS FOR, UM, BRISTOL, BUT WHAT WERE KIND OF LIKE THE SENTIMENTS FROM ENDEAVOR WHEN LIKE YOU LAST SPOKE WITH THEM, UM, AND HOW FEASIBLE DO WE THINK IT IS TO GET, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE PASSED? YEAH, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, IN THE LAST CONVERSATION WITH, UM, A COUPLE FOLKS FROM ENDEAVOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS DECIDED THAT, OR, YOU KNOW, COMM ECHOING, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, OR CHAIR KRUGER'S, YOU KNOW, UM, SENTIMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WORKING GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER SPECIFICALLY TO BREAK AND INJECT, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE REGULATING PLAN TO BRING STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER TO BRING ENDEAVOR IN TO, YOU KNOW, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, LIKE BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UM, A RECOMMENDATION.
SO NOW AS WE BRING THAT FORWARD, THE WORKING GROUP WILL GO AWAY AND NOW IT IS UP TO STAFF TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND WITH ENDEAVOR AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WHERE THOSE CAN GO.
THERE WILL PROBABLY BE, AND I'M, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE, UM, OTHER INTERESTS AND OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE WORKING ON PIECES OF THIS INDIVIDUALLY, UM, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY CAN GO AND WHAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION.
SO REALLY AND TRULY IT IS NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS, UH, THE WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
UH, AND ONCE IT LEAVES US, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY, REALLY AND TRULY UP TO STAFF, UM, TO, UH, TO WORK THE SYSTEM AND SEE HOW MUCH OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN BE REACH AGREEMENT ON, UH, WHICH I FEEL ENCOURAGED BY, BUT GOOD QUESTION.
UM, AND THEN DO YOU DO, DO YOU KNOW IF WE END UP SEEING THIS AGAIN ONCE THEY ACTUALLY PUT A, LIKE A PUD THROUGH, OR IS THIS THE, LIKE, THIS IS JUST SORT OF LIKE THE PRELIMINARY, LIKE THESE ARE OUR MAIN POINTS BEFORE THEY CREATE THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
UM, SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REACH AGREEMENT ON, UM, IN, IN THOSE MEETINGS WITH ENDEAVOR WAS TO PUSH BACK THE TIMELINE, UH, FOR THIS REGULATING PLAN.
UM, THE ORIGINAL TIME RALLY WAS THE END OF THIS MONTH, UM,
UM, WE COULD, LET'S PUSH THAT BACK AND WE AGREED ON MARCH, UH, AS THAT TIMEFRAME.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING IN IN JANUARY, THAT'LL GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IF THERE ARE NEW ONES, UH, YOU KNOW, TIME TO GET UP TO SPEED STAFF TO GET UP TO SPEED, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KIND OF, UH, GET BACK INTO, UM, THE PROCESS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT KIND OF TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF, GIVES A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM AROUND THIS AT THAT TIME, ONCE STAFF DOES HAVE IT WHERE THEY WANT IT.
UM, AND, AND WHERE EVERYTHING'S, YOU KNOW, UH, LOOKING, UH, LIKE THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, BEEN ABLE TO REACH ANY KIND OF AGREEMENT AND THINGS, UM, THAT'LL COME FORWARD IN MARCH.
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AND YES, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WILL SEE IT AGAIN, UH, AT THAT TIME AND CAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER COMMENTS, UM, MORE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHATEVER WE WANNA DO AT THAT TIME.LIZ, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? UH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ACCURATE.
I, I BELIEVE IT MAY BE COMING TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IN JANUARY, SO YEP.
I THOUGHT IT WAS DECEMBER 4TH, THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.
WE'LL, YEAH, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
IT'LL COME THROUGH EITHER WAY.
I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GREAT.
UM, AND YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGH, BUT, UM, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S GREAT WORK AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE TIME THAT IT TOOK TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER FIRO.
YEAH, PRETTY SIMILAR COMMENTS TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND LIKE, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.
UM, I KNOW ESPECIALLY, UH, BRIER, COMMISSIONER BRIER HAS BEEN ASKING ME LIKE, ANNIE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS AND THAT? SO THAT HAS BEEN, THAT HAS BEEN GREAT.
GIVES SHE GETS A GOOD SENSE OF LIKE, WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THIS TOGETHER AND HAVE LIKE THE SAME CONCERNS.
UM, SO IT'S VERY, UH, FEELS VERY FULFILLING TO SEE THE FINAL PROJECT.
UH, ONE THING THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT FROM IT, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN A LONG ADVOCATE FOR, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UH, I AM NUMBER 38 THAT REQUIRES 50 TO 70% OF, UH, SOLAR PANELS ON ROOFTOPS AND IMPERVIOUS, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER SURFACES.
UH, SO THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT I WOULD LOVE SEE MORE SOLAR ENERGY.
I'M LIKE, THAT'S THE BARE MINIMUM YOU CAN DO, UH, TO CONTRIBUTE TO EMISSION REDUCE EMISSIONS AND THAT IT'S CHEAPER FROM OTHER, UM, SOURCES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
AND WITH THAT ALSO THE NM 47 THAT IT'S FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S LIKE THE MAIN TWO ITEMS THAT ALWAYS APPRECIATE SEEING SOME CLEAN ENERGY THROWN IN THERE.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ATKINS.
YEAH, UM, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, UM, IT'S NOT EVERY DAY THAT YOU GET TO START A NEW POSITION AND IMMEDIATELY GET A REALLY COMPREHENSIVE 59 POINT DOCUMENT.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY GREAT TO JUST SEE ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, UH, JOINED THIS COMMISSION IN PART BECAUSE OF THIS WHOLE SAGA.
AND I HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE VERY INSPIRED BY THE AMOUNT OF WORK EVERYONE'S PUT IN TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF SITUATION THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAVE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS IN ECONOMIC PROJECTS OF ANY KIND, LIKE NOBODY EVER LEAVES A HUNDRED PERCENT HAPPY.
AND I THINK IT'S LIKE THE TEST OF LIKE REAL GOOD POLICY MAKERS WHO CAN LIKE, SIFT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND GET THE BEST POSSIBLE DEAL.
UM, AND YEAH, I MEAN, IT IS JUST, IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND LIKE COMPASSION THAT WENT INTO THIS WHOLE PROCESS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
HEY, Y'ALL, UM, AGAIN, ECHOING WHAT PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID.
I WANNA THANK, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS CITY STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THIS WORK GROUP AND TO THIS DOCUMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE THAT'S LIVED IN EAST AUSTIN FOR A LONG TIME, UH, A LOT OF TIMES THINGS JUST GET RAILROADED THROUGH AND NOBODY EVER CARES TO SAY ANYTHING.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT WHETHER BECAUSE OF, UH, BRIBERY OR LAZINESS OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY, UH, WAS THE REASON IT PASSED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, BASICALLY A LIGHTNING SPEED WITH LIKE NO REAL, UH, FROM OUR, FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVES, NO REAL OVERSIGHT GIVEN, UH, OR ANY DIRECTION.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER LUKI POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, I LIVE NEAR THE MUELLER AREA AND HAVE SEEN WHAT, UH, LIKE COMMON SENSE REGULATION, UH, AS WELL AS JUST LIKE, UH, A THOUGHTFUL OVERALL ARCHING, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN CAN DO FOR AN AREA.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE SOMETIMES FEEL THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IS ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THIS DOCUMENT SHOWS THAT WE ARE NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE JUST PRO RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO AGAIN, A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS.
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WELL, I WILL, I WILL ALSO ECHO THANKS.THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO, UM, HAVE PARTICIPATED ON THIS ISSUE UP TO THIS POINT THROUGH PUBLIC MEETINGS, THROUGH PHONE CALLS, THROUGH RESEARCH, THROUGH EFFORTS IN PARTICULAR TO THE COMMISSIONERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS WORKING GROUP.
THANK YOU VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, FOR LEADING ON THIS EFFORT.
IT WAS, UM, IT WAS A DIFFICULT TASK AND YOU DID IT WELL, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE HERE, WHO ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKING GROUP.
UM, I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE TO, TO SEE THIS OFF.
UM, AND TO ITS NEXT FORM, THANK YOU TO ENDEAVOR.
WE HAVE JOSH HERE TODAY FROM ENDEAVOR.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR PARTICIPATION AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS AS VICE CHAIR BRISTOL MENTIONED.
UM, AND I DO FEEL THAT AT THE END OF IT, WE CAME TO A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF EACH OTHER, UM, AND HOPEFUL FOR SOLUTIONS, UM, TOGETHER.
SO I'M EXCITED TODAY TO, UM, SEE THIS DOCUMENT TO ADVISE COUNCIL, UM, AND THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE KIND OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE REGULATING PLAN.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER SPECIFICS.
SO ANY OTHER FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE TO EMOTION? UH, REAL QUICK, I, I WILL ADD, UM, SOMEBODY ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE TIMELINE IS PUSHED BACK, LIKE WHY ARE WE, YOU KNOW, UH, PUTTING THIS FORWARD TODAY, UH, HERE IN OCTOBER? AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA REALLY IS TO HOPEFULLY HELP, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND, AND, AND PUT OUR OUR THOUGHTS AND STUFF, UH, IN, IN THE MIX AS THEY'RE MAKING SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERY COMMISSIONER WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE EVEN THOUGH MANY OF YOU HAD QUESTIONS AND YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WERE TEXTING AND THERE WAS PHONE CALLS AND THINGS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EACH ONE OF YOU IN HERE, UH, AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE HEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU UH, IN, IN DIFFERENT, UM, IN DIFFERENT THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, THERE'S LITTLE THINGS FOR DAVID, UM,
YEAH, THERE'S LITTLE THINGS, UH, FOR ANNIE, UM, THAT ARE ALL, UM, THROUGHOUT THERE.
AND SO WE REALLY, WE REALLY DO HEAR YOU AND UH, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY DO HEAR, UM, ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, THAT PARTICIPATED AND MADE THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS AND THEIR COMMENTS KNOWN.
SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN THERE.
SO WITH THAT, UM, AS VICE CHAIR BRISTOL MENTIONED THIS WASN'T BACKUP, SO WE DON'T NEED TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR PASSAGE OF THIS RECOMMENDATION.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
UM, SO ITEM THREE IS A REPORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMISSION, AND THEN THANK YOU.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE WILL, WE'LL CLOSE THIS AGENDA ITEM.
UM, AND I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO NOW DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER
[4. Approve a recommendation to Council from the Dog’s Head Working Group regarding the regulating plan for the area commonly known as Dog's Head, bounded by the Colorado River, US Highway 183, and State Highway 130.]
FOUR, APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL FROM THE DOG HEAD WORKING GROUP REGARDING THE REGULATING PLAN FOR THE AREA COMMONLY KNOWN AS DOGS HEAD BOUNDED BY THE COLORADO RIVER US HIGHWAY 180 3 AND STATE HIGHWAY ONE 30.WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE RECOMMENDATION OF THE RECOMMENDATION AS WRITTEN IN BACKUP.
OH, PUBLIC WAIT, BUT THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
I'VE BEEN SICK THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF.
OKAY, SO WE'RE ONTO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WE HAVE HEARD THE PRESENTATION.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE FIRST SPEAKER IS SARAH FO AND SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HI, MY NAME IS SARAH BAKER FAUST.
UM, I'M JUST SPEAKING ON MY OWN BEHALF AS AN AUSTIN RESIDENT.
I'M A FORMER MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN PARKS BOARD AND I WANTED TO, UM, JUST STATE THAT I FULLY SUPPORT ALL OF THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH YOU'LL LOOK AT IN ITEM FIVE.
UM, IN PARTICULAR, I WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKLAND ACRES AND THE REQUIREMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS FOR THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT ANY LAND THAT IS INTENDED TO BE USED AS A PARK BE AN ACTUAL PARKLAND DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
THAT WAY IT CAN BE A PART OF OUR PARK SYSTEM BE MANAGED AND DEVELOPED BY OUR AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
AND IT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO MAINTAIN THAT PARKLAND WITHIN THE CITY SYSTEM
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FOR THE BENEFIT OF THESE FUTURE RESIDENTS.UM, I ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND IMPERVIOUS COVER.
I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DO AN EXCELLENT JOB REALLY SEEKING TO PROTECT OUR FUTURE AUSTINITES FROM FLOODING, FROM INADEQUATE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TO PROTECT THE COLORADO RIVER AND SEEKING TO HAVE OUR NORMALLY THOROUGH AND TRANSPARENT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS PROTECTED.
AND I APPRECIATE THE VERY, VERY MUCH THE THOROUGH LOOK YOU ALL GAVE THIS, UM, ON THE PARKLAND.
AGAIN, I WANTED TO POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS A GOAL THAT EVERYBODY CAN WALK TO A PARK WITHIN FIVE TO 10 MINUTES OF THEIR RESIDENCE.
AND I THINK AS IT STOOD UNDER THE NORMAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THIS WAS NOT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR THAT GOAL AND IT DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN FOR GETTING TO THE GOAL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WILL BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS THINKING HOLISTICALLY AND THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND I REALLY ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THIS AND JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS WAS A TON OF WORK, AND IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME, AND IT'S NOT THE LAST TIME IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT VOLUNTEERS ARE WILLING TO DIG IN AND DO THE VERY HARD WORK OF COMING UP WITH, UM, THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO MANIFEST OUR ENVIRONMENTAL VALUES IN THIS CITY.
I MEAN, THIS IS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE ORIGINS OF THIS BODY, RIGHT? AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF OUR MOST TREASURED PARKS AND GREEN SPACES AND TRAILS IN THIS CITY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE NOT BROUGHT TO US BY A DEVELOPER.
THEY DID NOT SPRING FORTH FROM THE CITY MANAGER.
THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT CAREFULLY ABOUT THEY WERE HOURS AND HOURS OF WORK AND MEETINGS AND DEVELOPING RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOBBYING BY DEDICATED CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS.
I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE LOWER BARTON CREEK GREEN BELT, RIGHT BY THE SPRINGS, THE BARTON CREEK WILDERNESS PARK, ALL OF THAT, THE, THE BUTLER HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL, ALL OF THAT WAS FOUGHT FOR HARD BY CITIZENS.
YOU GUYS ARE DOING, UH, GREAT WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS TED UBANK.
UM, I TOO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THIS DID NOT COME TO THE PARKS BOARD AND THEREFORE OUR VOICE HASN'T BEEN HEARD, OR AT LEAST MY VOICE HASN'T BEEN HEARD, AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT TONIGHT.
UM, I THINK THE PARKLAND, AS SARAH SAID, MUST BE TRANSFERRED TO CITY OWNERSHIP.
I THINK WE'VE RECENTLY SEEN WITH THE, UM, A, UH, AUSTIN BOTANICAL GARDEN CONSERVANCY, UM, COLLAPSE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SAFETY NET.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT, UM, ASSURANCE THAT THE LAND WILL BE MAINTAINED AND KEPT FOR THE FUTURE.
UH, IT'S PART OF THIS CONTRACT, THIS SOCIAL CONTRACT WE HAVE BETWEEN THE TAXPAYER AND THE CITY.
IT PARKS ARE A SERVICE WE PROVIDE.
AND I THINK THIS LAND IS CRITICAL.
I ALSO THINK WHAT'S BEING SET ASIDE IS INSUFFICIENT.
UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE, OUR ONCE ASPIRATION OF 24 ACRES PER THOUSAND RESIDENTS, WHICH HAS BEEN STEADILY DECLINING, WITH NO HELP FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUSH THE OTHER DIRECTION.
AND LAST I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE RIPARIAN CORRIDOR.
THAT'S THE SHARED RESOURCE, THE RIVER, THAT'S THE SHARED RESOURCE.
AND I THINK 150 METERS, 500 FEET IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASPIRING TO.
AS YOU KNOW, THE FIRST 50 FEET RIPARIAN SHOULD BE LEFT, BASICALLY UNMANAGED, SHOULD BE LEFT ALONE.
THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CORE WHERE THE TRAIL WOULD BE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A PROBABLY 50 FEET OF GRASSLAND AND FORBES, UH, WHICH PROVIDE A BUFFER FROM RAINWATER RUNOFF AND SLOWS DOWN THE, UH, WATER.
THIS IS CALLED, UH, LAND PLANNING 1 0 1 WHEN IT COMES TO
BUT I THINK IF WE DON'T SAY THAT AND PUT THAT IN LANGUAGE, THEN OTHER THINGS TEND TO HAPPEN, AS WE'VE SEEN, EVEN IN PLACES WE LOVE, LIKE THE BUTLER TRAIL, UH, UH, STRANGE THINGS CAN TAKE PLACE.
SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND, UM, LET'S HOPE THAT THE, UH, COUNCIL
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WILL LISTEN.THE NEXT SPEAKER IS BECKY WOODWARD.
UM, A BIOLOGIST SPEAKING STRICTLY IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY, ALSO ON THE BOARD OF THE TEXAS SOCIETY FOR ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION.
I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF ITEM FOUR, UM, AND JUST MONDAY, SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE A TON OF TIME TO PREPARE, BUT I CAME ACROSS AN ARTICLE THAT, UM, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS GETTING SUED TO KEEP DATA CENTERS HIDDEN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD A RECOMMENDATION THAT WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT BANNING DATA CENTERS, YOU ALSO SPECIFY A FEW OTHER THINGS.
UM, BUT YOU SHOULD ALSO ADD CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE ON HERE THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO BAN THE RELEASE OF THIS INFORMATION, AND THEY'RE CALLING IT A, A TERRORIST THREAT OR RISK.
UM, AND KEN PAXTON RULED TWICE THAT THE DATA SHOULD BE RELEASED.
UM, SO ANYWAYS, NOW I GET TO WHAT I PREPARED.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE THIS AREA IS.
IT'S ALONG THE CENTRAL FLYWAY FOR MIGRATORY BIRDS.
ACCORDING TO TPWD, 90%, 98% OF ALL MIGRATORY BIRD SPECIES, UH, MIGRATE THROUGH TEXAS.
AND WHERE WE ARE IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF A FEW THINGS.
WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS OF DIFFERENT SOIL TYPES AND ECO REGIONS.
WE'RE ALSO ALONG THE EDGE OF THE EDWARDS, UM, THE BALCONES ESCARPMENT FAULT LINE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE ES EDWARDS PLATEAU.
WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT CREATES VERY UNIQUE WIND CURRENTS THAT WHEN BIRDS ARE MIGRATING, THEY HIT THE FAULT LINE.
AND I'VE TALKED TO METEOROLOGISTS ABOUT THIS, GEOLOGISTS ABOUT THIS, TONS OF EXPERTS.
THEY HIT THAT AIR FAULT LINE THAT AIRSTREAM CURRENT CAUSES THESE BIRDS TO PLUMMET AND FIND THEIR WAY ON THE GROUND.
HERE IN AUSTIN, THIS AREA IS VERY, VERY CRITICAL FOR THOSE SPECIES THAT MIGRATE.
AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK ON INATURALIST RIGHT NOW IN THE DOG'S HEAD, THERE'S OVER, OH GOSH, IT JUST CLOSE
THERE'S OVER 87,000, UM, OBSERVATIONS ON INATURALIST DOCUMENTING OVER FOUR THOU.
WELL, TO BE PRECISE, 4,324 SPECIES IN THIS AREA, THAT'S A HUGE IMPACT.
VERY, VERY BIG AFFECTING SPECIES ACROSS ALL TAXONOMIC LEVELS AND ALL WALKS OF LIFE.
IS THAT MY END OF MY TIME? THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, BECKY, AND THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS, TED.
UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LEE EDWARDS.
SEPARATELY, SHE SAID I HAVE TO KEEP IT UNDER A HALF HOUR.
SO I ALSO WANNA SAY THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BRISTOL KRUGER BRIER FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
AND TO US CIVILIANS WHO WORKED ON THE REGULATING PLAN DOCUMENT, IT WAS SO MANY HOURS AND YEAH.
UM, UH, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PARKLAND ISSUE AND JUST HAMMER SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN HAMMERED BEFORE.
I HEARD ABOUT THE 10% ALLOCATION OF PARKLAND.
I HEARD ABOUT ADDITIONAL PARKLAND IS NEEDED.
THERE IS NO PARKLAND IN THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
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LET'S BE CAREFUL WITH OUR LANGUAGE.THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT US TO SAY, RIGHT? THEY WANT US TO BE SLOPPY AND TALK AS IF THERE WERE PARKS IN THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE DOG'S HEAD.
THERE ARE NO PARKS, ZERO PARKS, NO ACREAGE, RIGHT? AS YOU SAID, SARAH, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THAT BE ADDRESSED IN THESE WRITTEN AGREEMENTS.
THAT IS THE TOPIC FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION WITH ENDEAVOR, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE, JOSH, AND I APPRECIATE THE MEETINGS.
A SUBGROUP OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION'S WORKING GROUP HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH ENDEAVOR, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE.
AND NOW, A BROAD COALITION CALLED FRIENDS OF THE DOG'S HEAD HAS PICKED UP THOSE AS THE REGULATING PLAN GROUP IS WOUND DOWN.
AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE PARKLAND ISSUE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF SACRIFICES TO COMMITTING TO PARKLAND, BUT PLEASE HEAR TONIGHT, THE JO, PLEASE HEAR JOSH TONIGHT.
THE COMMUNITY REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NEEDS PARKLAND, REAL PARKLAND.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CLAUDIA VOYLES.
WE OFTEN DESCRIBE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS BEING ON THE SCRUFF, THE BACK OF THE NECK OF THE DOG'S HEAD.
AND OCCASIONALLY OUR HACKLES HAVE BEEN UP IN THIS PROCESS.
I WAS PART OF THE WORKING GROUP, NOT THE SOLDIER THAT WAS THERE FOR EVERY MEETING,
AND IT WAS A VERY MOVING EXPERIENCE AS A CITIZEN TO SEE VOLUNTEERS AND EXPERTS SITTING DOWN AND HAMMERING IT OUT.
IT WAS OFTEN VERY EMOTIONAL AND VERY POWERFUL, AND I'M PROUD OF THIS WORK.
UH, COMMISSIONER LUKI, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE PLAN THAT GOVERNED THE MILLER DEVELOPMENT HAS LED TO MORE VALUABLE PROPERTY.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO ROB YOUR POCKETS.
WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ALL LOVE SO MUCH, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL MAKE FOR A BETTER DEVELOPMENT AND WILL ULTIMATELY SERVE YOU AS WELL AS THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
I CONFESS SOME FEAR AT THIS POINT THAT THIS THEN GOES INTO THE HANDS OF THE STAFF.
WE ASK YOU TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE PROCESS.
AND I REALLY ASK EVERYONE TO READ IT CAREFULLY AND HOLD TO THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CRAIG NAZER.
HELLO, CRAIG NAZER, SIERRA CLUB.
AND I JUST WANNA, UM, UH, IT, WE REALLY LIKE THIS, THE PROCESS THAT MADE THIS AND THE AGREEMENT IS VERY GOOD AND WE SUPPORT IT.
AND I JUST WANNA BRING OUT SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BRINGING OUT ON THIS AGREEMENT IS THE PARKLAND ISSUE.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GONNA ENJOY NATURE, YOU HAVE TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY ENJOY IT.
AND, UH, HAVING DEDICATED PARKLAND OWNED BY THE CITY IS IMPORTANT.
TALKED ABOUT THE MILLER AGREEMENT.
THE WAY THAT WORKED IS THE MILLER AGREEMENT WAS WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PARKLAND THE WAY THEY WANTED TO.
AND SO WHAT THE CITY DID IS THEY SAID, OKAY, WELL LOOK AT THAT PARKLAND.
WE'LL, WE'LL, THIS IS WHAT, HOW MUCH WE'D SPEND TAKING CARE OF IT.
WE'LL GIVE THAT MONEY TO YOU AND YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON TAKING CARE OF IT WITH YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
AND YOU CAN ADD TO THAT IF YOU WANT TO.
AND THAT'S HOW COME MILLER LOOKS REALLY GOOD, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NOW IF IF THE CITY DIDN'T OWN THE LAND THOUGH, THEY WOULDN'T GIVEN HIM ANY MONEY.
SO IF YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S ALL PRIVATE PARKLAND, WE CAN'T EVEN CALL IT LIKE OPEN SPACE, THE CITY'S NOT GIVING YOU A CENT TO MANAGE THAT.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, ALL OF IT.
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FROM OUTSIDE OF THE DOG'S HEAD.DO YOU WANT THEM TO FEEL INVITED IN TO USE THAT PARKLAND? PROBABLY.
WELL, THOSE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY WOULD HELP PAY FOR THAT, AND THEY WOULD FEEL INVITED IN AS PART OF THAT PARKLAND.
SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING IN LONG TERM ABOUT HOW YOU SUPPORT PARKLAND, ABOUT HOW THE CITY SUPPORTS ITSELF.
SO I THINK THIS IS A VITAL ISSUE.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROY WHALEY.
ROY, ARE YOU PRESENT? OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER, VALERIE MENARD.
UH, MY NAME IS VALERIE MENARD.
I AM THE PROJECT DIRECTOR FOR THE COLORADO RIVER CONSERVANCY, WHICH IS A PROJECT OF PORE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE CHORUS OF THANK YOUS TO THIS BODY, UM, FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO DO THIS, TO INVOLVE COMMUNITY, TO GET, UH, FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY.
HAD YOU NOT DONE THIS, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY IDEA OR ANY FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY IN THIS, IN THIS PROCESS.
SO, UM, THAT WAS CRITICAL AND WE'RE SO HAPPY THAT YOU DID THAT AND THANKFUL FOR THAT.
UM, AND I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENT.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT AGAIN, THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS NOT, UM, PART OF THIS PROCESS AND WASN'T INTENDED TO BE.
IT WAS RUSHED THROUGH AND IT WAS INTENDED TO BE RUSHED THROUGH.
AND SO THIS IS A GREAT DOCUMENT, BUT OUR JOB ISN'T DONE AS CITIZENS AND SUPPORTERS OF THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO TALK TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO TALK, LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US, AND TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIND A WAY.
AS THE AGREEMENT IS WRITTEN NOW, THE DEVELOPER DOES HAVE VETO POWER OVER AND YOUR ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN.
SO WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR CONS, OUR, OUR COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF OUR C BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND TO SUPPORT THAT.
THEY GET A RIGHT TO HAVE A REVIEW, UM, OF ANY KIND OF PROJECT, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING THIS MASSIVE, UM, THAT COMES TO THE CITY.
WE ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A PROJECT ON THE EAST PART OF THE, UH, COMMUNITY, UM, EAST OF, OF, UH, PLEASANT VALLEY.
THERE ARE NO, NO PROTECTIONS FOR THIS PART OF TOWN.
AND THAT GOES A WAYS BACK TO THE NINETIES.
SO THIS IS ALREADY A VULNERABLE PART OF TOWN.
UM, AND SO WE'LL HOPE THAT THIS ENERGY THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE TODAY, THIS ENERGY THAT CAME TOGETHER CONTINUES TO COME TOGETHER TO BRING MORE, UH, PROTECTIONS AND CONSCIOUSNESS OF, OF EAST AUSTIN AND, AND THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IN EAST AUSTIN IS AS PRECIOUS AS ANY OTHER PART OF TOWN.
VALERIE, WOULD YOU MIND TURNING OFF THAT MICROPHONE FOR US? THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSANNA ALMANZA.
AND SUSANNA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIT HERE OR GO UP THERE, BUT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT MICROPHONE IS OFF JUST FOR FEEDBACK IF SHE'S SITTING THERE.
READY TO TALK? GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M SUSAN ALMANZA WITH POED PEOPLE ORGANIZING DEFENSIVE EARTH AND HER RESOURCES.
AND I WOULD DO WANNA THANK THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER, UH, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER KRUGER AND BRISTOL AND BRIMER.
UH, I WAS, UH, ONE OF THE PERSONS WITH, UM, THE SMALL WORKING GROUP THAT, UH, MET WITH ENDEAVOR THAT WENT THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND GOT THROUGH FOUR OF THE POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS FOR THE FUTURE.
UH, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, EVEN THOUGH WE WORKED ON THESE REGULATIONS, UH, THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN HAPPY BECAUSE THERE WAS A 45 YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE WITH ENDEAVOR THAT I'VE NEVER WITNESSED IN THE HISTORY OF MY LIFE.
AND I'VE, I'VE LIVED IN EAST AUSTIN FOR 74 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THINGS, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CITY SIGNED OFF THEIR RIGHTS AND OUR RIGHTS TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS.
UH, AND EVEN THOUGH WE WORKED ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO IT, UH, THE THING IS, UNLESS WE RESEND THIS 45 YEAR AGREEMENT, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN END UP LOSING IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TO MENTION THE TURF.
UH, THIS THAT IS ALSO IN THE PROCESS HERE.
UH, I THINK THAT THEY WENT ABOUT IT ALL WRONG HAD THEY COME TO THE COMMUNITY, LIKE THE MUELLER PROCESS.
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AND I DON'T LIKE THE COMPARISON WITH MUELLER AND DOG'S HEAD BECAUSE MUELLER DOESN'T HAVE A 300 ACRE, UH, AMAZON ROBOTIC FACILITY.IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A COMPLETE DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE WORKED IN A PROCESS AND HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS TO DEVELOP THAT AREA, WHICH WE ALSO LOST BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT PERCENTAGE BEING FOR VERY LOW INCOME, WORKING CLASS OWNERSHIP IN THAT AREA.
BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I THINK THAT IF THEY HAD COME AND DONE A PROCESS WITH THE RESIDENTS, THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A VERY BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT, ONE THAT IS REALLY BALANCED, UH, ONE THAT WAS BE TRANSPARENT, UH, AND, UM, AND ONE THAT TO BE FAIR, WHERE YOU'D LOOK AT A BALANCE BETWEEN NATURE KIND AND HUMANKIND.
UH, NOT ONE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO FIGHT OVER WHETHER WE GET MORE PARK OR OPEN SPACE, OR WHETHER WE'RE PROTECTING THE BIRDS, WHETHER WE'RE TAKING THE REPAIR OR, UH, ALSO HOW DO WE PROTECT HUMANITY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND SO WHEN YOU GOT 2000, OVER 2,600 ACRES THAT ARE UP FOR GRAB, THAT I REALLY BELIEVE WAS GONNA BE A WHOLE INDUSTRIAL PARK, BECAUSE HOUSING WASN'T REALLY INCLUDED IN THE BEGINNING.
THAT WAS IF, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT WAS BEING LOOKED AGAIN AS, YOU KNOW, MORE INDUSTRIALIZATION OF EAST DAWSON, WHICH HAS BEEN THE LEGACY OF EAST DAWSON, IS TO HAVE ALL THE INDUSTRY THERE.
AND THEN HAVING IT ADJACENT TO THE COLORADO RIVER, UH, IS REALLY UPSETS ME ALSO OF THE DESTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, AND ALREADY HAVING TESLA THERE AND BUILDING THE BRIDGE BETWEEN AMAZON AND TESLA, BRINGING IN THESE BILLIONAIRES PEOPLE WHO FIGHT UNIONS, UH, WHO DON'T, YOU KNOW, DO FAIR WAGES, UH, AND TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE AND JOBS THAT WILL REPLACE PEOPLE WITH ROBOTS.
AND SO I DO THANK Y'ALL FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT ON THERE.
UH, BUT IT WAS ONE WHERE I WAS ALWAYS QUESTIONING MYSELF, YOU KNOW, WHAT AM I DOING? UH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE, BUT I'M SO GLAD Y'ALL WERE ON TIME.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOG FED.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY A WIDE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IT'S A LONG LIST, BUT I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD LIST.
UH, I CAN'T EVEN SAY THAT IT'S COMPLETELY COMPREHENSIVE, BUT IT ADDRESSES MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
UM, THE MAIN THING TO ME IS PLEASE TURN ON THE LIGHTS.
LET'S NOT HAVE THINGS DONE IN THE DARK ANYMORE.
UM, LET'S HAVE, HAVE IT START OVER AGAIN.
HAVE 'EM COME BEFORE YOU HAVE 'EM.
COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
HAVE IT COME BEFORE MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
HAVE THE NEIGHBORS COME IN AND HAVE THEIR SAY.
UH, BUT THERE ARE SOME DEVELOPMENTS I JUST CAN'T BUY INTO.
THINGS LIKE, UM, HAY HAYES COMMONS, WHICH IS RIGHT ON TOP OF, UH, A VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, UH, DOWN ON LITTLE BEAR CREEK.
THIS IS IN THE SAME BOOK, IF NOT THE SAME CHAPTER AS HAYES COMMONS.
UM, I WOULD, I HAVE GONE OUT THERE OFF AND ON.
I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT IN A WHILE, SO I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY TREES HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN DOWN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REMOVING SOME HERITAGE TREES.
I KNOW THAT THE PHOTOS THEY SHOWED LOOK LIKE, I WON'T COMPARE IT TO ONE OF OUR MANY WAR ZONES TODAY, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE A WAR ZONE.
THINGS CLEARED OUT, CLEARED AWAY.
THE WHOLE SITE DID NOT LOOK THAT WAY TO ME.
I REMAIN OFFENDED BY THE, WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.
THE SECRECY OF THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OFFENDS ME THE MOST.
I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE ON SETBACKS, ET CETERA.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE, THERE'S A GROUP OF FRESHWATER CLAMS, UH, OUT THERE, AND THEY DO A LOT FOR WATER PURIFICATION.
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I DON'T SEE THEM SURVIVING.UH, THEY DON'T SEE THEM SURVIVING EITHER.
UM, AND I'M OFFENDED BECAUSE I ASKED SOMEBODY, IS THERE ANY PART OF THIS THAT WILL HAVE TO DO WITH DATA CENTERS, WATER USE FOR DATA CENTERS? OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT ALL.
I HAVE TO REALLY GRIND MY TEETH TO WATCH MY LANGUAGE HERE, BECAUSE THAT WAS AN OUTRIGHT LIE.
AND IF THEY'RE WILLING TO LIE TO ME, TO MY FACE, HOW MANY LIES ARE THEY GONNA TELL YOU? HOW MANY LIES ARE THEY GOING TO TELL CITY COUNCIL? LIKE I SAY, I LOOK AT SOME OF THIS STUFF AND I WILL BE DUSTING THE WIND BY SOME THE TIME.
PARDON ME, ROY, WE'RE OF TIME NOW.
I TRUST THIS BODY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND I AM WILLING TO HELP ANY WAY I CAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR ITEM FOUR.
SORRY, ROY, COULD YOU GET UP AND TURN OFF THAT MICROPHONE AGAIN?
UM, ALRIGHT Y'ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I GOT JUMBLED UP AND DID THINGS SORT OF IN THE WRONG ORDER.
SO NOW LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT HAS BEEN REFERENCED.
AND WE'LL HAVE A MOTION BY, OH, I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE THE MOTION? MM-HMM
VICE CHAIR BRISTOL IS RECOGNIZED.
UM, SO THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WELL THERE WASN'T REALLY A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I WROTE DOWN AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WAS TALKING, UH, ABOUT CRYPTOCURRENCY, MINING AND CHIP MANUFACTURING.
DO WE WANNA ADD THAT? YES, BUT I THINK WE'D NEED TO MOTION IN SECOND FIRST AND THEN DO THE, AND THEN WE GO, YEAH.
UM, USUALLY RUNS MORE SMOOTHLY THAN THIS GUYS, BUT IT'S ALL GOOD.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE REGULATING PLAN DOCUMENT.
SO MOVED, MOVED BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, SECONDED BY SECRETARY KURESHI.
UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS, ADD COMMON QUESTIONS AND WE'LL START WITH ONLINE COMMISSIONERS.
AND GIVEN THE LAST AGENDA ITEM, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA JUST SAY, IS THERE ANYONE WHO HA WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS? I KNOW VICE CHAIR BRISTOL DOES.
OH, COULD YOU TURN ON YOUR MIC PLEASE? YEAH.
WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A SEPARATE RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THIS IS REGARDING THE REGULATING PLAN.
SO, UM, HEARING, UH, FROM, UM, THE PUBLIC TODAY, I'D LIKE TO ADD, UM, NUMBER 60, UM, PROHIBIT LAND USE SUCH AS CRYPTOCURRENCY, MINING AND CHIP MANUFACTURING, WHICH WAS SOMETHING WE DID NOT ADD IN THERE.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT AMENDMENT? ANY OBJECTIONS? HEARING NONE.
THAT IS, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I SECOND IT, BUT THERE WAS NO OBJECTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO ON TO A VOTE? OKAY.
SO WE'LL NOW BE VOTING ON THE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED, AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE AND WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER FLURRY FOUR.
SECRETARY KSI FOUR, VICE CHAIR, BRISTOL FOUR.
I ALSO VOTE FOR, WITH THAT IT IS UNANIMOUS.
[5. Approve a recommendation to Council regarding development agreement amendments for the area commonly known as Dog's Head, bounded by the Colorado River, US Highway 183, and State Highway 130.]
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, APPROVE OF RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENTS FOR THE AREA COMMONLY KNOWN AS DOGS HEAD BOUNDED BY THE COLORADO RIVER, US HIGHWAY 180 3 AND STATE HIGHWAY ONE 30.SO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS THE GOVERNING SUPERSEDING DOCUMENT, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.
NEGOTIATIONS ARE STILL HAPPENING.
UM, AND THAT KIND OF DICTATES THE ALLOWABLE USES THAT FALL UNDER THE REGULATING PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
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IN ORDER TO ENABLE THOSE, UM, ALLOWABLE USES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED FOR THE REGULATING PLAN, THESE AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.SO IT'S KIND OF A, JUST A, A LEGAL DETERMINATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM SEPARATED OUT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT IS IN BACKUP.
AND ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM CHAIR? WE HAVE 11 SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.
WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH US CALLING SPEAKERS UP TWO AT A TIME? YES, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
UH, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ROBIN, RATHER.
SECOND SPEAKER IS COREY HERB, ROBIN RATHER.
UM, NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE MARK MAY AND CHRIS FLORES.
AND I JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK THAT WE'RE CHECKING FOR ANY CALL IN COMMENTERS AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHAIR, NO SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, MY NAME IS MARK MAY, UM, I LIVE IN, UH, DD FIVE.
UM, SO, UH, FIRST I WANTED TO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIME AND WORK YOU'VE BEEN INTO ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, COVER THE DOGS HEAD.
UH, IT IS, UH, VERY, VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT OTHER PEOPLE BEHIND THIS WORK CARE MUCH FOR, MUCH FOR OUR CITY AND AND INVESTED A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO CREATE A, UH, PROPOSAL TO MAKE THAT CORNER OF OUR, UH, CITY BETTER.
I WISH WE HAD A COUNCIL THAT PUT HALF THE TIME AND EFFORT AND THOUGHT THAT YOU DID INTO THE DOG'S HEAD, UH, PROJECT.
AS I READ YOUR DOCUMENTS, I WAS NOT, NOT IMPRESSED BY, BY THE DEAL THAT THE CITY, UH, SIGNED UP FOR.
I DID KNOW THAT THEY, UH, PROVIDED FAVORABLE TAX TREATMENT FOR THE, UH, PROJECT.
HOWEVER, I DID NOT KNOW THE, UH, DEGREE TO WHICH THE CITY, UH, REDUCED OR, UH, COMPLETELY IGNORED THINGS I THINK THAT ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO WHAT MAKES AUSTIN AUSTIN, SUCH AS PUBLIC PARKS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HERITAGE TREE, UH, PROTECTION AND DECENT WATER QUALITY RULES.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN.
UM, I ALSO THINK THE WIDE LATITUDE GIVEN TO THE DEVELOPERS IS VERY, UH, VERY, UH, PROBLEMATIC.
UM, WE NEED TO HAVE YOU ALL AND THE CITY INVOLVED IN ALL PHASES OF, OF THE PROJECT.
YOUR PROPOSALS ARE JUST COMMON SENSE ITEMS, AND THEY'RE CONSTRAINTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.
THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN AGREEMENT THAT VALUED THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WILL LIVE AND WORK AT THE DOG'S HEAD.
MY OWN HEAD LITERALLY GOT TIRED, SHAKING UP AND DOWN.
YES, AS I READ THROUGH BOTH OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU GUYS MADE, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A CITIZENS OF AUSTIN A GREAT, UH, SERVICE BY COMING UP WITH A LIST OF REASONABLE MODIFICATIONS TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE WORST PARTS OF THE DOG'S HEAD PLAN.
I THINK YOU'VE ALSO DONE YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS A GREAT, UH, SERVICE WHETHER THEY ACTUALLY, UH, DESERVE IT OR OR NOT, BY, UH, GIVING THEM A PATH TO IMPROVE.
WHAT IS A WIDELY UNPOPULAR, UH, PROPOSAL? WILL THEY CARE ENOUGH TO TAKE THAT PATH? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I, BUT I URGE YOU TO, TO ALL VOTE FOR THIS AND PUT, PUT THE BALL IN THE COURT.
IF YOU DO, I WILL, I WILL, UH, LOBBY MY COUNCIL MEMBER TO TRY TO GET IT PASSED.
SO THANKS AGAIN, UH, UH, FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.
I AM A RESIDENT OF BOUGIE DISTRICT 10.
IT ENCOMPASSES THE WEST AUSTIN RIVERFRONT AND IT HAS HUGE TREES THROUGHOUT.
I'M BRINGING THIS GROUP A PARKLAND SUGGESTION.
I HOPE IT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.
NUMBER FIVE, I SUGGEST THE DOG'S HEAD RIVERFRONT ZONE BE EXPANDED TO 500 FEET FROM 400 AND THE SIX
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MILES OF IT.370 ACRES BY MY CALCULATION DONATED TO THE AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT.
NOW AT THE OUTSET OF THE 45 YEAR TERM OF DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT, UM, THE DEVELOPER ENDEAVOR AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD AGREE TO LEAVE THAT RIVERFRONT ACREAGE UNDEVELOPED, EXCEPT FOR PLANTING TREES, UH, RIPARIAN TREES AND LANDSCAPING UNDER THE EXCLUSIVE STEWARDSHIP OF THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT, THREE FOOT BABY TREES TAKE 30 TO 50 YEARS TO MATURE BY 2070.
IN 45 YEARS, THE TEMPERATURES WILL BE HOTTER AND OUR DROUGHT WILL BE WORSE.
THE TREES PLANTED TODAY WILL HELP ANCHOR THE RIVER'S EDGES, HELP WITH FLOODING, AND INCREASE THE VALUE OF THE BUILDINGS WITHIN THE DOGS HEAD TRACKED.
FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, WATERSHED DEPARTMENT CAN TAP INTO ITS CITY CONTRACTS TO ECONOMICALLY GET THE TREES, PLANT THEM, AND ACTIVATE VOLUNTEERS TO WATER THEM.
ENDEAVOR CAN ONLY BENEFIT THE WAY I SEE IT AS AN OLD FORMER MARATHONER.
I LOOK FORWARD IN MY LIFETIME TO AUSTIN, HAVING A TREE SHADED 26.2 MILE RIVERFRONT TRAIL LOOPING AROUND THE CITY.
THAT WOULD BE AN AUSTIN GEM, A VIRTUOUS GEM.
THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE BECKY WOODWARD AND LEE EDWARDS.
MY NAME IS BECKY WOODWARD, DISTRICT TWO RESIDENT, AFSCME MEMBER BIOLOGIST ON THE BOARD OF THE TEXAS SOCIETY FOR ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION.
I'M SPEAKING IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON THIS.
UM, I AM ALSO HOPING THAT Y'ALL WILL AMEND THIS ONE.
UM, AND ALSO PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW GOLF COURSES IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
I MEAN, THAT IS JUST WITHOUT QUESTION, THAT SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING ANYWHERE, ANYTIME UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, PERIOD.
UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT BUFFER ZONES WITH THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA.
I LIVE 800 FEET FROM A DATA CENTER AND IT'S 65 DECIBELS FROM MY BACK PORCH.
AND THERE'S A WATER QUALITY ZONE BETWEEN FULL OF TREES.
FULL RIPARIAN HABITAT IS NOT ENOUGH.
SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING INDUSTRIAL PLACES ON THIS AREA IS NOT GONNA BE NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
IT DISTURBS MY SLEEP AT NIGHT.
UM, I HAVE TO DO MY BEST TO PRETEND IT'S NOT THERE BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES DISRUPT MY DAILY LIFE.
AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS IMPACT PEOPLE WHO'VE PURCHASED A HOME.
I ALREADY SUBMITTED MY 60 DAY NOTICE.
BUT, UM, PLEASE DO NOT PUT INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
PLEASE JOG NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
I BEG OF YOU, 800 FEET IS NOT ENOUGH.
ALSO TO CONCLUDE PROMISES AND WORDS SPOKEN MEAN NOTHING.
WE NEED THIS IN WRITING, FORMALIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S CRITICAL TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
MY APARTMENT COMPLEX, THEY GOT THEIR APARTMENT COMPLEX APPROVED.
THE DATA CENTER WAS BUILT IN 2006.
THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA PROVIDE.
PARKLAND NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH.
THEY SAID RENTS WOULD BE UNDER TWO GRAND.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE THESE THINGS IN WRITING ON THE RECORD FORMALIZED SO THAT WHEN THESE THINGS AREN'T FOLLOWED THROUGH UPON, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO BACK AND REFERENCE AGAIN.
THIS IS CRITICAL NOT JUST FOR THE BIRDS, THE WILDLIFE, BUT ALSO THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE GONNA ULTIMATELY LIVE THERE.
UM, PLEASE, I I WANTED TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE PHASING OUT OF THE AUTOMATIC ROBOTICS BOAT TESTING.
UM, WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING MANUFACTURING OF AUTOMATIC SEMI-AUTONOMOUS WEAPONS HERE IN THE CITY.
IT GOES AGAINST OUR CITY'S VALUES.
I WOULD LIKE THAT TO PLEASE BE EXCLUDED.
UM, AND HONESTLY JUST DISRESPECTFUL TO THE RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN, IF THAT'S TO BE INCLUDED.
UM, I DON'T LIKE THAT THIS WAS CLOSED DOORS BEHIND NDAS, BUT, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
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ALL Y'ALL'S WORK ON THIS.I LIVE, UH, THREE FOOTBALL FIELDS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
I WILL BE IMPACTED, MY NEIGHBORS WILL BE IMPACTED.
I'M PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHEAST COLORADO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MY NEIGHBORS ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND I VERY MUCH SUPPORT THESE AMENDMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THEM.
THEY GET TO THINGS LIKE PROHIBITING DATA CENTERS.
I KNOW JOSH, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVE INDICATED WILLINGNESS TO RULE OUT HYPERSCALE DATA CENTERS AND CHIP MANUFACTURING.
GETTING THINGS THESE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN IS VERY IMPORTANT.
IT MENTIONS PRIORITIZING RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE PR SAYS MIXED USE HOUSING OVER AND OVER.
CHEETO VELA SAID THIS, IT'S MILLER ON THE COLORADO HOUSING IS A FIRST USE PARKLAND.
NO, THERE'S NO PARKLAND, THERE'S NO HOUSING, THEREFORE THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE DA UNLESS IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE.
RIGHT? THESE ARE CRUCIAL THINGS.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA SAY IS, IS QUITE DIFFERENT.
AND IT IS THAT, UM, I ENCOURAGE MYSELF AND ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS.
THIS HAS GONE ON A LONG TIME AND IT'S GONNA GO ON A LONG TIME.
WE HAVE BEEN COMBATIVE AND INSULTING.
UM, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THE PROCESS FROM EITHER SIDE OF THIS.
I WANT TO CALL MYSELF AND US TO DO THIS BETTER.
I WANT US TO THINK ABOUT OUR VALUES, TRY TO ARTICULATE OUR VALUES.
MARIANA, IN THE ONE MEETING OF THE SUBGROUP THAT YOU SHARED, THAT YOU FACILITATED, YOU OPENED BY ASKING ENDEAVOR TO ARTICULATE THEIR VALUES AND MY JAW DROP.
AND ANDY PASTOR DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB OF THAT TALKING ABOUT HIS VALUES FOR ENDEAVOR AND FOR THE DOG'S HEAD.
I THINK WE NEED TO THINK IN TERMS OF VALUES.
I THINK WE NEED TO LEARN TO SPEAK RESPECTFULLY TO EACH OTHER, EVEN WHEN WE DISRESPECT THE IDEAS THAT THE OTHER IS ESPOUSING.
WE JUST CAN'T GO ON WITH INSULTS AND HALF TRUTHS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF AS THIS GOES ON FOR MONTHS AND YEARS.
LET'S, LET'S JUST TRY TO CLEAN IT UP.
THAT'S MY REQUEST OF MYSELF AND OTHERS.
THE NEXT TWO NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE CLAUDIA BOYLES AND CRAIG NASER.
I'M A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHEAST COLORADO RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS DOCUMENT THAT CREATES A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND GRATEFUL, THAT IT INCLUDES THE RESTORATION OF THE USUAL CONSTRAINTS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND SURVEYS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL LEAD TO, UH, BETTER OUTCOMES FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
UM, AS A NEIGHBOR, I AM VERY GLAD THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS THE TRAFFIC SURVEYS AND THE, UM, THE SPECIFICATION OF THE CHANGES TO MY LITTLE POCKET OF NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT WE ARE NOT SACRIFICED TO WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING IN LATER DEVELOPMENT AND TO, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF APPROPRIATE TRAILS.
SO THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THAT.
WE REALLY WILL FEEL BETTER WHEN TRAFFIC THINGS ARE PUT IN WRITING.
UM, THE TRAFFIC AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY PRETTY OVERWHELMING.
IF YOU'VE TRIED TO GET IN AND OUT OF 180 3, IT IS, UH, DEATH DEFINED MIGHT BE AN OVERSTATEMENT, BUT IT FEELS LIKE THAT WHEN I'M TRYING TO GET TO WORK IN THE MORNING.
UM, SO CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL APPROACHES TO HOW WE MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO ACCESS THIS NEW AREA, UM, AND TO PROTECT THOSE OF US WHO WERE ALREADY THERE.
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CRAIG NASER SIERRA CLUB.UH, FROM WHAT I'VE READ IN THIS, IT LOOKS VERY GOOD AND WE SUPPORT IT.
THERE'S SOMETHING THOUGH THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN EITHER DOCUMENTS AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD GET IN IT.
I WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE LAST MONTH, BUT I LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION AND I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS SOMETHING SIERRA CLUB IS WORRIED ABOUT, AND I'LL SAY IT FIRST TIME TONIGHT, CLIMATE CHANGE.
NOW, RECENTLY, THE AMOUNT OF TIME CLIMATE CHANGE HAS BEEN MENTIONED ON THE NEWS HAS GONE WAY DOWN.
THEY'VE DONE SURVEYS ABOUT THIS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN CLIMATE CHANGE HAS GONE WAY DOWN.
THAT MEANS WE JUST HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO.
AND THE PROBLEM WITH CLIMATE CHANGE COMES WHEN YOU MAKE THE FLOOD MAPS FOR ALL THESE PLANS.
AND WHAT, WHEN YOU MAKE THOSE FLOOD MAPS, YOU GOTTA USE DATA THAT ENCOMPASSES CLIMATE CHANGE IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.
AND FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL, FROM WHAT I HEARD THE DATA USED, AND I KNOW THAT THIS MIGHT NOT BE YOUR CHOICE,
THIS DATA WAS NOT EVEN ATLAS 14 DATA.
NOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE RETIRED FROM WATERSHED WHO I MET WITH WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT USING ATLAS 14 DATA A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND HOW THE CITY WAS GONNA DO THAT AND FIGURED ATLAS 14, I DON'T THINK IT'S USED HERE FROM WHAT I CAN TELL NOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE FLOOD MAPS, MAKE A FLOOD PLAN, AT THE VERY LEAST, ATLAS 14 IS ALREADY IN THE PAST.
THAT WAS THE RAINFALL AMOUNTS TO 2018.
WE'VE GONE A BIT, WE BEYOND THAT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURVE OF CLIMATE CHANGE GOING UP, AND FRANKLY WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH ABOUT IT, THE SAME MEETING, THEY APPROVE, APPROVED, UH, UH, WHAT WAS IT? THE, THE ONE OF THE PLANS WAS THEY VOTED FOR MORE GAS PEAKER PLANTS MAY 21ST.
SO SOMEONE DO SOMETHING IF YOU CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, WE ARE GONNA KEEP PUSHING FOR IT.
GET PROPER DATA FOR MAKING THESE FLOOD PLANS.
I THINK WHAT YOU MIGHT FIND IS SOME OF THESE GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS WILL WE MADE, IF YOU CHANGE THE FLOOD PLANS MORE IN LINE WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU'RE GONNA FIND THERE'S GONNA BE MORE ROOM FOR THESE PARKS.
AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, WE'LL JUST TUMBLE NATURALLY BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
THANK YOU, YOU BOTH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE ROY WHALEY AND VALERIE MENARD.
AND I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE TO SPEAK.
I THANK MR. NAER FOR HIS COMMENTS.
AND LEE ALSO, UM, AS I'VE LISTENED TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY, IT'S LIKE A BAD VENTRILOQUISM ACT.
THEY'RE SAYING ONE THING, BUT I SEE THEIR LIPS MOVING AND DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IT'S LIKE THE SOUND IS NOT QUITE SYNCED UP.
THE DOG'S HEAD, THE WHOLE APPROACH IS A PROBLEM.
WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THE, THE, I HATE TO USE THIS TERM, THE PRECEDENCE THAT'S BEING SET.
WE HAVE GOTTEN SO ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE LYING TO US, EVEN FROM THE TOP OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ON DOWN.
AND THAT'S THE REASON I SO APPRECIATE THIS, THIS COMMISSION HERE, UH, AND, AND THE, THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS BY SOME OF Y'ALL AND THE NEIGHBORS AND OTHERS.
AND I, I CAN'T STRESS STRONGLY ENOUGH, AS CRAIG WAS TALKING ABOUT, MR. NAZER WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
THE REASON WE'RE NOT HEARING THAT MUCH ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IS BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME CLOWN UP IN WASHINGTON SAYING IT'S A HOAX.
I LOOK AT WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID, AND I THINK, BOY, YOU TALK ABOUT A HOAX.
WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE PROMISING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE Y'ALL WILL BE HERE.
I WON'T BE HERE AT THE END OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I WILL BE COUGHING DUST, I'LL BE DUST IN THE WIND SOMEWHERE.
SOME OF Y'ALL MAY BE HERE TO SEE IT.
I, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST AS WELL, I'M, I'VE GOTTEN TOO ACCUSTOMED TO PEOPLE LYING TO ME, UM, THAT I DON'T WANT TO
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BE HERE AND SEE HOW THIS LIE HAS PLAYED OUT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL IS TRULY GOING TO TAKE PLACE.I JUST DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS ALSO DOG'S HEAD IS ALSO BEING USED AND, AND THE PRO THE PROJECT, UH, IS BEING USED AMAZON TO GET LIGHT RAIL TO GO OUT TO THE AIRPORT WITH THE IDEA THAT, OH NO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TO DOG'S HEAD.
UH, WITH LIGHT RAIL TWO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE TAKING LIGHT RAIL TO THE AIRPORT.
YOU'RE GONNA BE MOVING ONE 30.
YOU'RE GONNA BE COMING IN ON TOLL ROADS FROM GEORGETOWN, ROUND ROCK, PFLUGERVILLE, GRANGER, ALL THESE OTHER PLACES THAT PEOPLE ARE, LIBERTY HILL, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.
ANYWAY, THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING IN THAT WAY.
SO YES, I'M ALL FOR THE LIGHT REALM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THAT KIND OF A**L VENTRILOQUISM THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO ACCUSTOMED TO, YOU KNOW, THEIR MOUTH IS MOVING.
BUT I KNOW IT'S COMING OUT OF A DIFFERENT PLACE.
AND I AGAIN, WANT TO THANK VERY DEEPLY, VERY SINCERELY ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE.
I HOPE THAT WE GET GOOD CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ELECTED OR REELECTED, AND THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE AND, AND WORK FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AGAIN, I'M VALERIE MENARD ALSO, UH, WITH
UM, AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO REPEAT MY THANKS AND APPRECIATION, UM, FOR Y'ALL, FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND FOR, FOR PUTTING THE EFFORT INTO THESE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND JUST REMEMBERING THAT AGAIN, THIS, THIS AGREEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
AND HAD YOU NOT DONE THIS, HAD YOU NOT TAKEN THE INITIATIVE AND HAD THE LEADERSHIP TO DO THIS, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO AGAIN, VERY, VERY GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR THAT.
UH, BUT I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO MAYBE TO, UM, ADD TO WHAT ROY SAID ABOUT FALSE NARRATIVES.
UM, ONE OF THE FALSE NARRATIVES, UH, WAS THAT THIS IS AN UNINHABITED AREA AND IT'S NOT.
AND THERE'S A CENSUS TRACK TO SHOW THAT THERE'S OVER 3000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE DOG'S HEAD.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES NOT JUST THE AREA FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALL ALONG, LIKE IT, LIKE, UM, ATE SAID THE SCRUFF AND EVERYTHING.
UM, AND THESE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY OF COLOR.
UH, 93%, UH, 89% LATINO, UH, 3%.
UH, OKAY, SO 92%, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN.
THESE ARE WORKING CLASS FOLKS.
THERE'S FOLKS THAT HAVE GENERALLY GENERATIONAL HOME OWNERSHIP IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND THEN WITH AN AVERAGE, UH, INCOME OF $35,000.
SO, JUST WANNA BE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE.
I KNOW EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT IN MILLER AND THIS AND THAT, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND, THESE ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE THAT WILL BE DISPLACED.
IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, UM, WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WE DO ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHERE WILL THEY GO? THEY'RE NOT GONNA STAY IN AUSTIN.
UM, AND THESE ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN MOBILE HOME PARKS.
VERY, VERY, VERY UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL FIND THERE ARE THREE SETS OF MOBILE, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT, BUT THREE OF MOBILE HOME PARKS IN THE AREA.
UH, NOT LIKELY THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO FIND HOME ANYWHERE, UH, OF WHERE THEY'RE LIVING CURRENTLY.
SO LET'S BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE, THE REALITIES FACING FOLKS IN LIVING IN THE DOG SET, UM, THAT ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
AND TO, TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
AND THEN ALSO WANNA REMIND, BRING BACK THE, THE FACT THAT THIS IS A ENVIRON, UM, VERY, UH, UNPROTECTED AREA BASED ON JUST CITY LACK OF CITY ORDINANCES AND PROTECTIONS.
UM, AND TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHEN TESLA CAME, THEY WERE ABLE TO CONNECT.
YOU HAVE A, A SERVICE EXTENSION AGREEMENT.
WHEN TESLA SUBMITTED THEIRS, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY PROCESS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE.
ONLY AUSTIN WATER REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND APPROVED THE REQUEST.
ALL OF DOGHEAD IS UNDER THE SAME LACK OF ANY KIND OF, UH, OF, OF OVERSIGHT.
SO ALL OF THESE COMPANIES COMING IN CAN JUST DO THEIR S SE SEL, UM, SER.
AND IT WOULD ONLY BE CURRENTLY AUSTIN WATER THAT LOOKS AT IT.
THE REASON THERE WERE YOU ALL WERE INVOLVED IN WEST SIDE, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE ORDINANCE, THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE, THAT REQUIRES IT.
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN, IN THE EAST SIDE.
SO LET'S PLEASE BE AWARE OF THESE THINGS AND THE VULNERABILITY OF THIS PART OF TOWN, AND THAT WE CAN ALL COME TOGETHER TO PROTECT AND DEFEND ALL OF AUSTIN.
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ITEM IS SUSANNA ALMANZA.GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER SAM ALMANZA WITH
UH, AND I TOO, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UH, WAS PRIVY TO DOING REGULATIONS AND AMENDMENT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE CONSIDERED IN THE 45 YEAR AGREEMENT PLAN.
SO THIS PROCESS THAT WOULD NORMALLY HAD GONE TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND GIVEN PUBLIC ACCESS AND HAD TRANSPARENCY, UH, WAS CIRCUMVENTED.
AND IT WAS ONLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION THAT REALLY GOT THE RIGHT TO HAVE A SAY IN IT, WHETHER IT WOULD BE A CONTINUOUS, UH, RIGHT.
UH, BUT I, I AM THANKFUL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, AT LEAST PUT THOSE AMENDMENTS IN.
UH, BUT I THINK THE, THE AMENDMENT THAT, UH, REALLY IS MISSING IS TO RETRACT EVERYTHING TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THAT ANY ZONING CASES GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS, UH, UH, PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, PUBLIC PROCESS, AND GOING THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHAT THIS 45 YEAR AGREEMENT DOESN'T DO.
IT TIES THE HANDS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WOULD REGULARLY HEAR, UH, ZONING CASES.
AND IT ALSO MUFFLES ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND TO HAVE A SAY, UH, IN THE PROCESS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY SAD, UM, VERY SAD CASE OF A CITY COUNCIL THAT HAS PUT PROFITS OVER PEOPLE, A CITY COUNCIL THAT HAS IGNORED A PUBLIC PROCESS, UH, THAT IT, THAT IT IS AND SHOULD BE ABIDING BY, UH, A CITY COUNCIL THAT REALLY DOESN'T REPRESENT THE PEOPLE ANYMORE.
AND THAT'S REAL SHAMEFUL BECAUSE I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHERE CITY COUNCIL WAS.
YOU WOULD SIGN UP FOR FOUR DIFFERENT ZONING CASES AND THEY'D MAKE YOU SPEAK TO ALL FOUR OF THEM AT ONE TIME IN ONLY TWO MINUTES.
THANKFULLY, BILL BUNCH WITH SOS TOOK THEM TO COURT AND WAS ABLE TO CHANGE A LOT OF THAT DIFFERENT PROCESS.
THEY GAVE US MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
BUT THAT'S WHAT HAS TAKEN, EVEN WITH CODE NEXT, LEAVING US OUT, IT TOOK US GOING TO COURT TO CHANGE THE PROCESS.
AND SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN GOING TO COURT ON THE 45 YEAR CONTRACT AND THE TURFS AND HOPEFULLY, UH, THINGS WILL COME OUT WHERE PEOPLE DO HAVE A VOICE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL WILL STOP IGNORING THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
UM, CAN I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT SO WE CAN BEGIN DISCUSSION, I THINK I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT RECOMMENDATION.
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL SECOND.
SECONDED BY SECRETARY KURESHI.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT WE GET TO MOVE INTO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
UM, COMMISSIONER BRIMER, I KNOW YOU SENT OVER SOME SUGGESTED EDITS, SO I THINK I'LL RESERVE YOU FOR THE END IF THAT'S OKAY, AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, LET'S START WITH COMMISSIONER FLURRY.
I GUESS TO THE LAST COMMENT MADE ABOUT, UH, THAT WE HEARD FROM, UH, THE AUDIENCE OF, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF, OF GOING THROUGH THE TYPICAL, UM, PROTOCOLS, UH, WITH, UH, PUBLIC INPUT, DESIRE TO RECOMMENDATIONS, SUGGEST DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IN, IN SPECIFIC CASES, YES.
SO I CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT THIS IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
INVOLVE BRINGING BACK THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND PLANNING COMMISSION PER STANDARD DOES.
UM, COMMISSIONER CHIN, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RIGHT NOW.
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CONSTITUENTS FOR SPEAKING AS WELL.COMMISSIONER MORRISON, NO QUESTIONS FROM ME.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ATKINS.
NO QUESTIONS FROM ME, BUT, UH, THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS WHO TOOK TIME OUT THEIR NIGHT TO SHOW UP TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? NOPE, I'M GOOD, THANK YOU.
UM, LIKE I'LL GO TO SECRETARY KISHI NEXT, AND AGAIN, BRIAN, I'LL GET TO YOU.
YEAH, I WOULD JUST, UH, ECHO WHAT I SAID LAST TIME, UH, FOR ITEM FOUR.
UM, EVERYTHING STILL HOLDS TRUE FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM.
AND, UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, EXTEND MY THANKS TO, UM, ALL THE FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. VICE CHAIR BRISTOL.
I WAS SPACING OUT THERE FOR A SECOND.
UM, I WAS WAITING TO HEAR FROM RICK.
UM, I WANNA GIVE A HUGE SHOUT OUT AND A THANKS TO CHAIR KRUGER, UH, FOR, FOR CREATING THIS AND COMING UP WITH THIS.
WHEN WE WERE WORKING, UH, ON THE REGULATING PLAN, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT IN ORDER FOR A LOT OF THOSE THINGS TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN, THE AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO TRIGGER THAT.
AND SO SHE TOOK THE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS, PULL THESE OUT, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND REALLY HIGHLIGHT LIKE, WHERE DO WE NEED, WHAT ARE EACH ONE OF THOSE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, UM, IN HERE.
SO I DO WANNA, I DO WANNA SAY THAT ON THE LAND USE ONE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORE WAS ALSO ASKING ABOUT, I, IT FEELS LIKE WE NEED TO, WE, WE DON'T ACTUALLY SAY, UM, THAT, THAT WE WOULD, SO WE SAY A PRESIDENT, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN AUTHORIZE.
SO THAT'S WHAT IT, WHAT THE ACTION IS SAYING.
AND HERE WE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT INCLUDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, THAT IT INCLUDES THE LAND USE, UM, OR LAND DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I'D LIKE TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE.
UM, UH, IN THAT, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO PUT IT IN LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD, THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE SAME RULES THAT ALL OVER ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOLLOW.
BECAUSE IF IT'S DIFFERENT, IF IT'S DIFFERENT, THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS GONNA COME FORWARD WITH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A SNOWBALL AND, UM, AND WE CAN ALREADY SEE THAT ON THE HORIZON.
SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE THE SAME.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN WRITING THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA DAZZLE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT OR IF YOU WANT ME TO COME UP WITH THAT, BUT
UM, SO SECTION THREE A, UM, OF THE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH THEN IS PORTIONED OUT TO SECTION 3.030, YOU ALREADY HAVE IT WRITTEN.
SO THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SAYS, UM, SECTION 3.03.
AT PRESENT, THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN AUTHORIZE ANY VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHOUT PUBLIC PROCESS.
I STRIKE, UH, STRIKE THIS SECTION AND REINSTATE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR ALL VARIANCES.
AND THEN YOU'RE PROPOSING WE ADD FOLLOW ALL LAND USE CODE FOR WHEN A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED THAT IT FOLLOW THE SAME AS ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
SO I GUESS I'M WONDERING MATERIALLY HOW THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE LANGUAGE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT FOLLOW ALL OTHER, LIKE, IT, IT'S FOLLOWING WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO DO.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
AND, AND MAYBE IT JUST WASN'T QUITE CLEAR IN OKAY.
OR, OR WELL PUNCHED OUT ENOUGH.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHAT, WHAT IF YOU SAID AND ZONING MM-HMM
WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? SO STRIKE THIS SECTION AND REINSTATE BOARD AND COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR ALL VARIANCES AND ZONING.
AND MAYBE WE COULD ADD, STRIKE THIS SECTION AND REINSTATE STANDARD BOARD AND COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR ALL VARIANCES AND ZONING.
NICOLE, DID YOU GET THAT? OKAY, PERFECT.
ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ADOPTING THAT INTO THE DOCUMENT? ANY OBJECTIONS? OKAY.
GREAT CHAIR, JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER.
THE AMENDMENT'S BEING MADE TO THE MOTION.
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AND A VOTE AS WELL.WHEN CAN WE DO ALRIGHT? I WAS THINKING WE COULD DO THE CONSENT PROCESS FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S FINE.
SO MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER BRISTOL OR VICE CHAIR BRISTOL.
AND THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE LANGUAGE AS STATED BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
LANGUAGE ADOPTED, LANGUAGE AMENDED.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? VICE CHAIR, BRISTOL? NOT YET.
COMMISSIONER BRIMER, I KNOW YOU SENT OVER, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS.
SO WHERE DO YOU LIKE TO START? WELL, OKAY, BROADLY SPEAKING, WHAT I DID WAS I TOOK ALL OF YOUR THINGS AND I JUST INSERTED, UH, CITY CODE REFERENCES.
UH, THE REASON I DID THAT WAS TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
I, I, I TOOK WHAT I PERCEIVED WAS YOUR INTENT AND THEN I REFERRED TO CITY CODE.
AND THE REASON I DID THAT WAS CITY CODE IS DEFINED LAW.
COURTS KNOW WHAT IT IS, DEVELOPERS KNOW WHAT IT IS, COUNT, EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
SO IF YOU REFER TO A PARTICULAR SECTION OF CITY CODE AS A GOVERNING DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH COVERED BY THAT.
NOW, I DID THE BEST I COULD SEARCHING THROUGH CITY CODE AND, AND TYPING THE EXACT SAME THING IN THERE.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT YOU WROTE.
I JUST INSERTED THE PARTICULAR SPECIFICS OF CITY CODE IN THERE.
SO THERE WERE SOME SECTIONS THAT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, TRAILS BUILDING THEM AND HOW THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED AND ALL THAT.
SO THERE'S A SECTION OF CITY CODE THAT REFERS TO THAT.
SO I JUST SAID, STICK THIS CITY CODE REFERENCE IN THERE AND THEN IT COVERS IT AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THESE LITTLE TINY DETAILS THAT ACTUALLY COUNSEL OVER 50 YEARS DID ALL THAT STUFF.
THERE IS ONE SECTION AND THAT I'M GONNA GO TO THE BEGINNING OF WHAT I SENT OVER IN SECTION 3.01 A AND LET ME PULL IT UP WHEREVER IT IS.
AND, UH, AT THE END OF THAT, I SUGGEST THAT WORDING BE ADDED IN THERE.
THIS SAYS, UH, THAT, UH, YOU INCLUDE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.
AND THEN I LISTED A NUMBER OF SECTIONS OF CITY CODE IN THERE.
ONE OF THE, THE FIRST TWO REFERENCE SOME LABOR, UH, SECTIONS OF CITY CODE THAT HAVE TO DO SPECIFICALLY A WITH ACCELERATED PROCESSING OF AGREEMENTS.
AND UNDER CITY CODE, IF YOU GET FAVORABLE PROCESSING OF AN AGREEMENT THAN ALL DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST MONEY SPENT BY THE CITY, BUT ALL DEVELOPMENTS HAVE TO ABIDE BY, UH, 14 DASH 18 DASH TWO.
SO IT EXPANDS WHAT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED BY ENDEAVOR AND SOME OTHER FOLKS EARLIER TO INCLUDE NOT JUST WHERE CITY MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT, BUT ALL MONEY WITHIN DOGS THAT IS SPENT.
SO I BELIEVE IF I READ CITY CODE CORRECTLY, THIS EXPANDS THE COVERAGE OF LABOR PROTECTION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION AND DOG SET.
SECONDLY, UH, IT INCLUDES SOME STUFF IN THERE REGARDING SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
NOW YOU WERE REFERRING TO ZONING AND PLANNING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I'M KIND OF PAROCHIAL BEING ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, SO I DIDN'T LOOK UP ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS, BUT I INCLUDED TWO DASH ONE DASH 1 44, WHICH SPECIFICALLY REFERENCES THE SCOPE AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SO THAT WITHOUT A DOUBT, WE ARE PART OF THE PROCESS.
YOU CAN'T ZIP US OUT ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE IT SAYS WE'RE PART OF IT INTO STORY AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT REFER TO PROCESS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING IT.
SO WE'RE PART OF THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE THING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT GOES IN THERE.
NOW, UH, IN ONE SECTION, UH, LET'S TAKE IT ONE AT A TIME IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO LET'S THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
SO, UM, YOU'RE PROPOSING MOTIONING TO ADD TO SECTION 3.01 A QUOTE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO SECTIONS 14 DASH 18, 1 14 DASH 18 DASH TWO 30 DASH ONE DASH 2 53, 2 44,
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SECTION FOUR AND ONE THREE AND 1.3 OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL OF THE CITY CODE.IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL.
UM, ALL OF THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INCORPORATING THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
ALRIGHT, THAT IS UNANIMOUS LANGUAGE ADDED.
WHAT'S YOUR SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT? WELL, AS I SAID, ALL THOSE REFERENCES THAT I MADE FOR VARIOUS ADDING CITY CODE THINGS, I MEAN, THERE'S NUMEROUS IN THERE.
UH, WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM IF YOU WANT ONE BY ONE OR, OKAY.
YEAH, I CAN READ THEM INTO THE RECORD.
UM, WOULD YOU SUGGEST WE DO THEM ONE BY ONE, NICOLE, OR PROBABLY, PROBABLY.
ARE THERE ANY THAT ARE DIFFERENT LIKE THAT WE SHOULD PULL OUT TO DISCUSS? PARTICULARLY, I, I DON'T SEE ANY DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN WHAT YOU PUT IN THERE AND THE PIECES OF CITY CODE IN THERE.
NOW I DIDN'T, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN? MM-HMM
I WAS JUST REINFORCING WHAT YOU WERE STATING BY ADDING THE PARTICULAR SECTIONS OF CITY CODE FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLARITY.
IT WASN'T TO EXPAND OR SHORTEN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO LET ME, UH, ASK, UH, A QUESTION, UM, CHAIR.
ARE, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS COMING IN? THEY FEEL RIGHT? I, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO ADD CLARITY AND TO ADD THE CITY CODE.
SO THEN I'M WONDERING, AND NICOLE BACK ME UP AND, AND DAVID, YOU'RE GONNA BE THE TIEBREAKER.
UM, CAN WE JUST, CAN WE, CAN WE SAY SOMETHING LIKE, WE ACCEPT COMMISSIONER BRIERS ADDITIONS AS THEY ARE TO BE UPDATED INTO THE DOCUMENT? OR DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE? UM, SO CHAIR, I HAD WROTE DOWN THAT HIS AMENDMENT WAS ADDING CITY CODE CITATIONS THROUGHOUT THE RECOMMENDATION.
IF IT'S JUST A REFERENCE TO THE CITY CODE AND IT'S NOT CHANGING LIKE THE CONTENT OF THE RECOMMENDATION, I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE TO GENERALLY STATE THAT AS THE AMENDMENT AND THEN THE APPROVED RECOMMENDATION WOULD HAVE THE CITATION IN IT.
VERSUS THE ONE THAT, THE DRAFT ONE THAT DIDN'T.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? I THINK WE SHOULD STILL READ IT INTO THE RECORD, BUT I'M FINE WITH VOTING ON IT ALL AT ONCE AND THEN IF FOLKS HAVE ISSUES, WE CAN PULL THAT OUT.
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OTHER PARTS OF THIS RECOMMENDATION WHERE IT LISTS SAYS, UH, PRIORITIZE RESIDENTIAL, CIVIC, AND AGRICULTURAL USES AS DESCRIBED IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND THEN PARENTHESES 25 DASH TWO DASH 3, 25 DASH TWO DASH SIX AND 25 2 DASH SEVEN.
SO IT'S ALREADY THE CASE THAT WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT WE REFERENCE PLACES IN CODE.
SO YOUR SUGGESTION IS TO ADD IT IN MORE PLACES, RIGHT.
SO IT'S A SIMPLE THING TO PUT IT AT THE END OF A PARAGRAPH IN PARENTHESES, AND THEN A LIST OF NUMBERS WHICH ARE CITATIONS ELSEWHERE IN THE CODE.
YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
AND I, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF, YOU KNOW, THAT COMES TO PASS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DOES GET AMENDED, UM, OUR CITY LAW STAFF WILL ADD CITATIONS AS NECESSARY.
UM, SO AS LONG AS THE INTENT IS CLEAR, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO ALL THE CITATIONS AS LONG AS IT, THE INTENT IS CLEAR LAW WOULD, WOULD ADD THEM WHERE APPROPRIATE.
SO YEAH, THAT BEING SAID, I, I AM FINE WITH THAT IN CLARITY.
UM, AND I THINK JUST FOR MY OWN PEACE OF MIND, I WILL READ ALL OF YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS INTO THE RECORD.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.
SO WE'VE ALREADY, UM, APPROVED THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO READ ALL THE REST INTO THE RECORD.
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DESCRIBED AS TIER TWO, TIER THREE, AND TIER FOUR BY THE UPTIME INSTITUTE REQUIRING 24 TIMES SEVEN AVAILABILITY.ALTER ITEM THREE FI TO READ REQUIRE INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN AS REQUIRED BY CITY OF AUSTIN ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL ALTER ITEM THREE ONE TO INCLUDE CITY CODE 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 61 AND 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 62.
AND THEN YOU ADDED SOME LANGUAGE THERE.
UM, ALTER ITEM THREE K TO READ MUST COMPLY WITH SUBCHAPTER B TREE AND NATURAL AREA PROTECTION OF THE CITY CODE ALTER ITEM FIVE C.
OKAY, SOMETIMES YOU ADDED YOUR, YOUR LITTLE COMMENTS IN HERE, RICK.
ALTER ITEM FIVE C, CITY CODE 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 61 AND 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 2 62.
PARK ACCESS AND USAGE AS DEFINED BY EIGHT DASH ONE DASH 11 OF CITY CODE ALTER THREE L TO DEFINE HYDROLOGICAL STUDY TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CATCHMENT ANALYSIS, CATCHMENT FLOWS, RAINFALL ANALYSIS, ANALYSIS, HYDROLOGY, OVERLAND FLOW AND RUNOFF ASSESSMENT, WATER COURSE HYDRAULICS, FLOOD RISK ASSESSMENT, INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE DRAINAGE IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UNDERSTAND AND IDENTIFY THE POSSIBLE IMPACTS OF THE PROPOSED INDUSTRY RELATING TO HYDROGEOLOGY IN TERMS OF AVAILABILITY OF GROUNDWATER EXPLOITATION NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, RECHARGE CONDITIONS AND POSSIBLE RECHARGE STRUCTURES TO BE SUGGESTED.
THE INDUSTRY'S TOWNSHIPS AND LAND USE PARTICULARS IN VICINITY AND BUFFER ZONE OF THE PROJECT AREA.
AND THEIR WATER DRAW PARTICULARS ALONG THE SEISMIC ZONE IN WHICH IT FALLS.
ESTIMATION OF RUNOFF FROM THE WATERSHED THAT CAN BE USED FOR RECHARGE ESTIMATION OF PRE-POST PROJECT RUNOFF WITH THE PROJECT SITE AND SUGGEST MEASURES TO HARVEST THE WATER WITHIN THE PROJECT SITE.
AMEND 4.04 BI TO READ ALTER 45 YEARS TO 15 YEARS AND 90 ACRES TO 260 ACRES.
OKAY, SO THAT FEELS LIKE DIFFERENT THAN ADDING, RIGHT? YOU WANTED TO, YOU, YOUR INTENT WAS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF TIME WHERE THE CONVEYANCE WAS.
SO I PULLED OUT THE CONTRADICTORY ITEMS IN THERE AND JUST LEFT THE, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL ITEM.
OKAY, WELL I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER.
SO I'M GONNA PULL THAT OUT OF THIS SECTION.
AGREEMENT 4.04 GI ALTER QUOTE, YOU SKIPPED THAT.
THE PHRASE QUOTE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO BUT NEED NOT BE IDENTICAL TO INSTEAD REFERENCE EIGHT DASH ONE DASH 11 OF CITY CODE REGARDING PARK ACCESS.
UM, A 4.04 GI I ALTER AT LEAST 266 ACRES OF LAND TO READ AT LEAST 266 ACRES OF LAND, NOT INCLUDING THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND PRIVATE RECREATION AREAS OR AREAS WITHOUT GENERAL PUBLIC ACCESS AGREEMENT.
4.04 CI SHOULD BE ALTERED TO REQUIRE CONSTRUCTION TO BE CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 5.0 OF CITY CODE ALTER EXHIBIT B TO REMOVE RESEARCH TESTING SERVICES, RESEARCH ASSEMBLY SERVICES PAWN SHOP FROM PERMITTED LAND USES FOR MIXED DEVELOPMENT LAND USE.
NOW THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE IS A, UH, DATA CENTER GOING UP ON 2222.
THE REASON IT'S GOING IN IS 'CAUSE IT'S SNEAKING UNDER THE TERM RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AS A ZONING THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY IS GONNA DO IN THE FUTURE FOR DATA CENTERS.
WHAT I CAN DO TODAY IS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EXHIBITS B AND C, IT LISTS THE PERMITTED USES FOR THE TYPES OF LAND, WHICH ARE CALLED MXD, WHICH IS MIXED USE MM-HMM
MIXED USE HAS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN IT.
IF YOU SCRATCH OUT THOSE TWO ITEMS, THAT MEANS THEY CAN'T USE THAT AS A METHOD BY WHICH YOU CAN INSERT A DATA CENTER.
THEY MAY DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I CAN'T FIX THAT.
THAT FEELS DIFFERENT THAN JUST REFERENCING THE SPECIFIC CODE.
SO I'M NOT GONNA INCLUDE THAT IN WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING NOW 'CAUSE YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW WE GOT TO PAWN SHOPS, BUT, WELL, I JUST DON'T LIKE PAWN SHOP.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT NEXT.
BUT, UM, ARE FOLKS CLEAR THEN ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WE, THAT COMMISSIONER BRIER IS PROPOSING TO ADD, WHICH ESSENTIALLY INCORPORATES REFERENCES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL AND LAND DEVELOPMENT
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CODE.SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO INCORPORATE THAT LANGUAGE.
IS THERE A SECOND? SO REALLY QUICK, DO WE NEED TO, UM, UPDATE THAT MOTION TO PULL OUT THE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED, THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S CHANGED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
YEAH, THE THING THAT I JUST READ, WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING, WE'RE ONLY CONSIDERING THE, UM, THE REFERENCES TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL.
WHERE TO FIND IT IN CITY CODE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE DOCUMENT AS READ, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT HAS BEEN AMENDED.
SO NOW LET'S TACKLE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
THE LAST THREE, THE LAST THREE, AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE ABOVE TWO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, DO YOU SEE IT RICK? ONE THAT WAS OH G WAS THAT, OH.
AGREEMENT 4.04 B ALTER 45 YEARS TO 15 YEARS AND 90 ACRES TO 268 ACRES.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT TO, OKAY.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH IT? YEAH, LET ME, THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO IS THE, THE SUBJECT HEADING OF 4 0 4 B IS TIMING CONVEYANCE OF OPEN SPACE.
SO I IS PHASE ONE 90 ACRES MUST BE CONVEYED WITHIN 15 YEARS, WITHIN 50 YEAR, 15 YEARS OF THE DATE.
SO, UH, THEN PHASE TWO IS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 90 YEARS OR 90 ACRES MUST BE CONVEYED WITHIN 30 YEARS.
NOW MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU WANTED THE WHOLE THING DONE WITHIN 15 YEARS, I BELIEVE.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT WAS YOUR INTENT.
ALL TRAILS MUST BE COMPLETED, CONVEYED, AND OPEN BY 2036 IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN WELL, RIGHT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLACES WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT CONVEYANCE, AND WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF UNIFY THEM IN A WAY SO THAT IT IS ALL DONE THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIRST 15 YEARS I THINK IS WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO GET DONE, AND I WAS TRYING TO PULL OUT THE SECTIONS THAT ALLOWED FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IN THE CASE OF PARAGRAPH B, IT SAID ADDITIONAL 90 ACRES MUST BE CONVEYED WITHIN 30 YEARS.
SO I WANTED TO PULL OUT, YOU KNOW, ITEM TWO OR SECTION TWO OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THAT, THAT ALLOWED IT TO BE CONVEYED WITHIN 30 YEARS.
SO I WANT TO NARROW THAT TIMEFRAME DOWN.
I'M NOT CLEAR WHERE IN THE RECOMMENDATION IS IT'S WRITTEN THAT'S RELATED TO, SO SECTION 4.03 IN THE RECOMMENDATION, WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT 4.04 RIGHT.
BUT 4.03 IS WHERE I REFERENCE CONVEY CONVEYANCE.
I MEAN, SECTION 4.04 DOES NOT REFERENCE CONVEYANCE.
IT'S ACTUALLY, IT DOES, IT SAYS CONVEYING.
SO IT, IT'S ACTUALLY IN, UM, 4.03.
THERE'S I, AND THEN UNDER I, THERE'S ONE, TWO, AND THREE.
AND NUMBER ONE IS ALL TRAILS MUST BE COMPLETED, CONVEYED AND OPEN BY 2036.
WELL I MAY, I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ON.
SO YOU, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE THESE ARGUMENTS ALL THE TIME.
LOTS OF, LOTS OF LETTERS AND NUMBERS.
SO, WELL I GUESS THAT IN GENERAL SPEAKING, I WANT ALL THE CONVEYANCES TO BE THE SAME.
AND I, I GOT THE IMPRESSION FROM READING YOURS, UH, CHAIR, THAT YOU WANTED TO COLLECT THEM DOWN INTO A NARROW, NARROW PERIOD OF TIME.
SO I DO HAVE, SO LET'S JUST READ THAT PART.
SECTION 4.03 B 2D FH AT PRESENT, TWO MILES OF TRAIL WILL BE CONVEYED WITHIN 18 MONTHS AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE FINAL DOGHEAD TOURS PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN.
WHILE THE REMAINING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CONVEYED TO THE CITY FOR 15 YEARS, AMEND TO REQUIRE ALL TRAILS MUST BE COMPLETED, CONVEYED AND OPENED BY 2036.
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CROSSINGS WITHIN OR ACROSS TRAILS, PUBLIC ACCESS RULES SHALL BE CREATED BY AUSTIN.PARKS AND RECREATION MAINTENANCE SHALL BE CONDUCTED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
ALL TRAILS MUST BE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
WELL, MAYBE THAT I MADE A MISTAKE IN THINKING I MADE A MISTAKE.
I, UH, AND SO I WANTED TO LET YOURS STAND, BUT I WAS GOING DOWN TO 4.0 4.4 AS A SEPARATE ITEM FROM WHAT YOU WERE DOING.
I APOLOGIZE FOR OKAY, THAT'S OKAY.
BUT YOU STILL, SO SECTION 4.04 DI AS WRITTEN IN THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS, AMEND TO REQUIRE THAT PUBLIC ACCESS RULES SHALL BE PROMULGATED BY AUSTIN PARKS AND REC RECREATION AND AMEND TO DISALLOW PAVED OR HARD SURFACE TRAILS, GOLF COURSES AND MARINAS.
DID YOU HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THAT? WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW? SECTION 4.04 D AND I ON THE RECOMMENDATION D MM-HMM
I DON'T THINK I HAVE A DI HAVE A BI DON'T SEE A D, E OR WELL, MAYBE I HAVE, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, I HAVE A DI HAVE A B AND THEN AN F AND THEN A G.
YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN HERE THAT, OH, THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT RELATED.
MAYBE JENNIFER CAN SHOW ME WHERE, WHAT I HAVE THAT LOOKS RELATED IS ALTER.
ALTER EXHIBIT B TO REMOVE MARINA OUTDOOR SPORTS PERFORMANCE VENUE AND OUTDOOR SPORTS AND RECREATION, COMMUNITY RECREATION, PRIVATE FROM PERMITTED USES FOR OS LAND USE.
SO THAT DOES FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT.
SO I JUST LIST OUT HARD SURFACE TRAILS, GOLF COURSES AND MARINAS.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO ADD TO THAT OUTDOOR SPORTS PERFORMANCE VENUE, OUTDOOR SPORTS AND RECREATION, COMMUNITY RECREATION, PRIVATE.
OH, YOU'RE DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS EXHIBIT B.
UH, IF YOU GO TO EXHIBIT B, THERE'S UH, UNDER OPEN SPACE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS IN THERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO PREVENT IS MARINAS, AND THERE'S A CHART IN EXHIBITS B AND C THAT SHOWS ALLOWABLE ACTIVITIES.
AND SO ONE WAY TO TAKE CARE OF ADDRESS THE MARINA THING IS JUST SAY UNDER, YOU KNOW, LAND USE OS LIKE, NOPE, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
THERE'S A HYPHEN IN AREAS OR IN ITEMS THAT THAT ACTIVITY IS NOT ALLOWED.
SO YOU JUST REPLACE THAT WITH A HYPHEN AND THEN THAT, THAT ACTIVITY IS NOT ALLOWED.
AND THE REASON I PUT OUTDOOR SPORTS THERE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GOLF COURSES.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW, AND THIS IS MY FAULT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERM OUTDOOR SPORTS IS.
SOMEONE CAN LOOK IT UP IN CITY CODE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE GOLF IS AN OUTDOOR SPORT.
AND IF YOU DO AWAY WITH OUTDOOR SPORTS, UH, THEN YOU PRETTY MUCH DO AWAY WITH GOLF.
NOW I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEONE'S, YOU KNOW, LITTLE KIDS SOCCER LEAGUE OR LITTLE LEAGUE THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED WITH THAT.
AND OKAY, WE HAVE THAT HAS TO BE FIXED.
BUT THE LARGER ISSUE IS THE GOLF COURSE MM-HMM
SO IF YOU DO AWAY WITH OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, THEN YOU DO AWAY WITH GOLF COURSES.
AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO BACKFILL LITTLE LEAGUE AND SOCCER AND, I DUNNO, WHATEVER ELSE, AND YOU CAN BACKFILL THAT MM-HMM
BUT THIS DOES AWAY WITH GOLF COURSES.
THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS AMEND TO DISALLOW PAVED OR HARD SURFACE TRAILS, GOLF COURSES AND MARINAS, PERSONALLY, I'M FINE WITH, WITH OTHER FORMS OF OUTDOOR SPORTS, SO LONG AS IT'S NOT ASTROTURF.
UM, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THEN YOU KNOW, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND I PROPOSE THAT, OH, I LIKE THE WAY YOU HAVE, I'M JUST DOUBLE, DOUBLE DIPPING ON THE, ON THE THING.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU PROPOSE, IF, IF YOU WANT LEAVE THE WAY IT IS, I'M FINE WITH IT.
I'M FINE WITH THE WAY IT IS ON, ON THIS ONE.
UM, I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, WELL FIRST OFF, I FEEL LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ALL THREE OF THESE THINGS IS, IS, IS DIFFICULT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, HARD SURFACE TRAILS, UM, IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A DA TRAILS, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME HARD SURFACE TRAILS.
SO, UM, AND IN THE REGULATING PLAN THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE 30% OF A DH RAILS.
UM, I AMEND TO DISALLOW PAVED OR HARD SURFACE TRAILS WITHIN THE RIPARIAN ZONE OF THE RIVER, MAYBE.
IS MAYBE, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE KIND OF THINKING? IS THAT YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
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COULD SAY WITH EXCEPTION TO A DA TRAILS AS NECESSARY.SO VICE BRISTOL IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE IN SECTION 4.04, I TO SAY AMEND TO DISALLOW PAVED OR HARD SURFACE TRAILS WITH EXCEPTIONS FOR A DA TRAILS AS NECESSARY GOLF COURSES AND MARINAS, IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
COMMISSIONER BRIERS, THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'D TAKE? WELL, I'D LIKE BACK UP TO THE FIRST ONE THAT SAYS, UH, REMOVING RESEARCH AND TESTING SERVICES.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PORTION? ON, ON THE, UH, MARINE OUTDOORS PORT GOLF? YEAH.
ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, UH, I HAD THE WORD PRIVATE THERE MM-HMM
UH, AND I THINK WE, WE NEED TO, I WANT TO DISCUSS THAT.
AND IF NO ONE OBJECTS, IF EVERYONE OBJECTS TO WHAT I'VE GOT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT MM-HMM
BUT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF PRIVATE FACILITIES THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND IT HAS A POOL AND POT PUTT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAVE IS IF YOU BUILD A GOLF COURSE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, MUNI, RIGHT? WHICH IS A PUBLIC COURSE WHERE ANYONE CAN SHOW UP AND DO, YOU'RE LIKELY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A PRIVATE GOLF COURSE AND THE AVERAGE GOLFER IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD, YOU KNOW, THE DUES TO JOIN THE THING, PLUS THE GREEN FEES, PLUS THE CART FEES, PLUS ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF.
NOW YOU CAN TALK ME INTO MAYBE A GOLF COURSE, AS LONG AS IT'S A PUBLIC FACILITY, THE PUBLIC CAN GET INTO BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SWAY ME INTO A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE.
BUT IF IT'S GONNA BE A PRIVATE COUNTRY CLUB TYPE OF FACILITY AND YOU'RE GONNA COUNT THAT AS OPEN SPACE, THEN I HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO IF YOU START HAVING A LOT OF, OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES ON WHAT IS DEFINED AS OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, THEN I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
IF IT'S OPEN ONLY TO CLUB MEMBERS MM-HMM
THEN I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT TYPE OF THING IF IT'S BEING COUNTED AS OPEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO BRING UP HERE.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE IT WRITTEN, COMMUNITY RECREATION, PRIVATE, IS THAT A REFERENCE FROM CITY CODE? IS THAT HOW YOU WOULD DESIGNATE IT? WELL, THERE'S, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S OKAY, I'M, I'LL DEFER TO, UH, VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, VICE CHAIR BRISTOL, WHO RAISED HER HAND.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING MY HAND.
SO IT FEELS LIKE MAYBE, UM, NUMBER TWO SHOULD UNDER HERE, UNDER SEC, THIS SECTION IS AMEND TO DISALLOW PAVED OR HARD SURFACE TRAILS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A DA TRAILS MM-HMM
THEN, THEN NUMBER THREE WOULD BE AMEND TO DISALLOW PRIVATE GOLF COURSES AND PRIVATE MARINAS AND LARGE SCALE OUTDOOR SPORTS.
IS THAT KIND OF GETTING AT YOUR INTENT? YEAH.
IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT.
IT JUST, I'M ALSO AGAINST PUBLIC GOLF.
I'M AGAINST GOLF COURSES, PERIOD.
WELL, WHATEVER IT IS, I'M WILLING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IF IT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE.
BUT IF YOU'RE JUST, AND YOU'RE COUNTING IT AS OPEN SPACE MM-HMM
SEE THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE DOUBLE DIPPING THERE.
BUT THAT'S ADDRESSED SOMEWHERE ELSE HERE.
SO I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR THAT.
UM, SO I GUESS I'M WONDERING WHAT, WHAT LANGUAGE ARE YOU PROPOSING? WELL, I'M PROPOSING WHAT JENNIFER CHAIR, BRI, VICE CHAIR BRISTOL SAID.
UM, YEAH, PERSONALLY I WOULD JUST, I WANNA DISALLOW GOLF COURSES, SO THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
SO IF YOU'D TO, WELL, YOU'RE NOT HURTING MY FEELINGS.
AND MARINA IS I THINK A PUBLIC, LIKE I, I'M, I'M OKAY.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ON THAT? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE WE'RE GONNA GO WITH WHAT? VICE CHAIR BRISTOL? NO, BECAUSE I'M PERSONALLY OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT YOU CAN OF COURSE MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T SUPPORT THAT LANGUAGE PERSONALLY.
WELL, THE PRIVATE, I WANT PRIVATE PART.
WELL, I THINK WHAT'S WHAT, UM, CHAIR KRUGER IS SAYING IS THAT THIS, THE WAY THAT SHE HAS IT WRITTEN HERE IS ALL GOLF COURSES.
IN GENERAL, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE PRIVATE WOULD BE, AND ALL MARINAS WOULD BE OUT.
SO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE FACILITIES IN A GENERAL SENSE.
SO IF YOU HAVE, WELL, REMEMBER THE WHOLE THING IS ONE GIANT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW
[02:40:01]
MM-HMMSO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A COUNTRY CLUB EITHER, BUT, OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THAT IN A WAY THAT, OKAY.
AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS, UH, EXHIBIT C AT THE BOTTOM SAYS, UH, I WANNA CHANGE THE IMPERVIOUS COVER.
UH, IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SUPPOSEDLY THIS AGREEMENT THAT'S FLOATING AROUND THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN WRITING AND I ONLY BELIEVE IN STUFF THAT'S IN WRITING.
SO, UH, EXHIBIT C SAYS IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, ON THE MXD TYPE PROPERTY IS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I WANNA CHANGE THAT TO 65, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF PUDS THAT WE HAVE DONE.
NOW, IF YOU, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT 63 OR 67, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
UH, SO I WANNA MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST.
AND 65 IS A COMMON NUMBER WE HAVE APPROVED IN THE PAST ON PUDS.
AND THEN ALSO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE, UH, OPEN SPACE IS 20%.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF SILLY.
UH, I THINK 5%, BUT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SAY SEVEN, YOU KNOW, IT CAN'T BE 20.
SO YOU'RE PROPOSING, IT SOUNDS LIKE, TO ADD, 'CAUSE THE RECOMMENDATION HAS FIVE NUMBERS THEN WITH SUB SUBSECTIONS TO THAT.
SO YOU'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A SECTION SIX, OR WOULD THIS BE NO, JUST CHANGING NESTED UNDER PARKLAND NATURE TRAILS AND OPEN SPACE.
WELL, DOWN THERE ON THE BOTTOM OF SECTION, UH, EXHIBIT C, THE LAST LINE SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, IMPERVIOUS COVER.
I JUST WANNA CROSS REFERENCE THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INDEED WHAT'S IN 4.04.
I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAINLY REFERENCE TO OPEN SPACE, BUT THE MIXED USE ASPECT I'M NOT SEEING IN 4.04.
IT'S THE VERY BOTTOM OF OH, SOME STUPID DOCUMENT.
WELL, Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR THAT I WANNA ASK, UM, LIZ, A QUESTION.
THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS THERE WAS A THREE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE UM, KIND OF ADDED ONTO THE DOG'S HEAD AGREEMENT WHEN, UM, THEY WERE VOTING ON THE TURS.
HAS THAT LANGUAGE EVER SURFACED? DO WE, DO WE HAVE THAT YET? UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN FINALIZED.
OH, I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD SAY, YEAH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.
OKAY, RICK, I FOUND IT IN THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IN THE ORIGINAL VOTED ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IT'S SECTION 3.07.
SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THIS WILL GO UNDER NUMBER THREE, LAND USE.
AND THEN WE WILL ADD, UM, WE'LL ADJUST THE NUMBERS 'CAUSE THEY GO CHRONOLOGICALLY.
SO AFTER ITEM D, LETTER D, UM, THAT'S 3.05 YOU'RE PROPOSING TO ADD THEN LETTER E AND THEN ALL OF THE FOLLOWING LETTERS CAN ADJUST ACCORDING TO THAT.
SO IT'LL READ SECTION 3.07, AND THEN YOUR PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IS MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER MIXED USE CHANGE THAT FROM OH, SHOULD BE AMENDED TO 65% AND MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR OPEN SPACE TO 5%.
SO AGAIN, COMMISSIONER BRIMER IS MOTIONING TO ADD TO NUMBER THREE IN BETWEEN LETTERS D AND E, SOMETHING THAT WOULD READ SECTION 3.07 AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO READ THAT MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER MXD IS ALLOWABLE AT 65% AND MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR OPEN SPACE IS ALLOWABLE AT 5%.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
SO THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN INCORPORATED.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I SEE IS, UH, ALTER EXHIBIT B TO REMOVE RESEARCH TESTING SERVICES, RESEARCH ASSEMBLY SERVICES PAWN SHOP FROM PERMITTED LAND USES FOR MIXED LAND USE.
YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? WELL, PAWN SHOP, I JUST DIDN'T LIKE PAWN SHOP.
[02:45:01]
YOU, LET'S DROP THE PAWN SHOP.JUST, IT SEEMS A LITTLE RANDOM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, NOBODY LIKES 'EM, BUT YOU KNOW.
WELL IF YOU ARE LIVING IN THE, IN DOG'S HEAD, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A PAWN SHOP.
RIVERSIDE'S JUST DOWN THE STREET.
WELL, THERE IS THIS PLACE DOWN THERE THAT IS AN ADULT VIDEO, BUT VERY DIFFERENT THAN A PAWN SHOP.
I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PORN.
YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO APPARENTLY
UH, BUT IN ANY EVENT, UH, THEY'RE USING, UH, THE R AND D SECTION OF ZONING AND UH, TO AS AN EXCUSE TO BUILD DATA CENTERS.
AND SO, UH, IF IN EXHIBIT B YOU TAKE OUT THOSE AS PERMITTED USES, THEN THE WAY I PERHAPS UNDERSTAND IT, IT CLOSES OFF THE ABILITY OF SOMEONE TO USE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AS AN EXCUSE TO PUT IN A DATA CENTER.
MM-HMM
SO THAT IS RELEVANT TO SECTION 3.05 OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CURRENTLY, UM, WHAT I HAVE LISTED IN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR SECTION 3.05 IS AMEND THIS SECTION TO PRECLUDE ALL POLLUTING INDUSTRIAL USES AS DESCRIBED IN THE LDC DISALLOWED DATA CENTERS, CHIP MANUFACTURING AND WEAPONS SLASH DEFENSE RELATED MANUFACTURING PRIORITIZE RESIDENTIAL, CIVIC, AND AGRICULTURAL USES AS DESCRIBED IN THE LDC.
AND SO YOU ARE PROPOSING TO ADD, EXCUSE ME, A FOURTH ITEM TO THAT.
YEAH, REMOVING RESEARCH AND TESTING SERVICES AND RESEARCH AND ASSEMBLY SERVICES.
SO ON NUMBER THREE OF THE RECOMMENDATION LETTER C FOR SECTION 3.05, COMMISSIONER BRIMER IS PROPOSING ADDING, UM, A FOURTH BULLET POINT THAT WOULD READ, REMOVE RESEARCH, TESTING SERVICES, RESEARCH ASSEMBLY AND RESEARCH ASSEMBLY SERVICES FROM PERMITTED LAND USES FOR MIXED DEVELOPMENT LAND USE.
IS THERE A SECOND? JUMPING ON THAT SECOND BY ADVICE CHAIR, BRISTOL.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
ON THAT SAME SECTION, THE ONLY THING I WAS WONDERING ABOUT AFTER HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN THE REGULATING PLAN.
DO WE WANT TO ADD IN CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING AS LIKE A SPECIFIC SECTION FOR DATA CENTERS AND THEN ALSO NUCLEAR POWER AND GAS PEAKER PLANTS WERE BROUGHT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT? THE ANSWER IS YES.
UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S MAYBE ONE MORE THING THAT I HEARD, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, WE, WE ADDRESS, UM, SOME OF IT HERE IN SECTION 3.4, WHICH IS PHASE OUT ANONYMOUS BOAT TESTING AND PROHIBIT ANY MILITARY OR MILITARY ADJACENT OPERATIONS.
UM, ARE YOU FEELING LIKE THAT LIKE OPERATIONS ALSO INCLUDES LIKE MANUFACTURING? JUST SAY MANUFACTURING? YEAH.
YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD TO THE CRYPTO MINING AND UM, THAT TERRIBLE FUNCTIONS.
SO THEN FOR NUMBER THREE, LETTER C, SECTION 3.05 FOR THEN SUBSECTION NUMBER TWO, IT WOULD READ IN PARTICULAR DISALLOW DATA CENTERS INCLUDING FOR CRYPTOCURRENCY, MINING, COMMA CHIP MANUFACTURING, GAS, PEAKER PLANTS, COMMA, NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, COMMA AND WEAPONS AND DEFENSE RELATED MANUFACTURING.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY, CAN I SAY VICE CHAIR BRISTOL FOR THAT ONE?
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRIMER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT LANGUAGE, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS ON THIS? I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SHETLAND PONIES.
SO NOW, UM, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO CONSIDER THE MOTION AS AMENDED.
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UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALREADY.SO I BELIEVE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED.
SO WE WILL START ONLINE WITH COMMISSIONER ATKINS FOUR, COMMISSIONER CHANG, SET FOUR.
AND I'M CHAIR KRUGER AND I'M ALSO FOUR.
AGAIN, LET ME SAY CHAIR KRUGER, THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THE, ALL THAT DETAIL AND COMMISSIONER BRIER, THANK YOU FOR ADDING TO IT ON THERE TOO.
SO REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
[6. Approve the 2027 annual schedule of the Environmental Commission.]
GOING TO A LIGHTER ITEM.IT'S NOT SHETLAND PONIES, BUT WE'RE MOVING ON TO APPROVE THE 2027 ANNUAL SCHEDULE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SO THIS HAS BEEN POSTED INTO BACKUP.
UM, ANY COMMENTARY FROM STAFF ON THIS? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, I DID NOT INCLUDE THE RETREAT DATE, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING DATE.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST THE REGULAR MEETING DATES, UM, FOR NEXT YEAR.
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT? OH, I SEE VICE CHAIR OL WITH A COMMENT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IN JULY WE JUST WOULD HAVE THE ONE MEETING WITH THE INTENT THAT LATER WE WOULD HAVE THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
AND THAT ONE'S ON MY BIRTHDAY, JULY 7TH,
ANY OTHER
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YOU'RE ALL INVITED TO NEW HAMPSHIRE TO MEET WHERE IT'S GONNA BE A LOT COOLER.
ALRIGHT, SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO APPROVE THE 2027 ANNUAL SCHEDULE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AS POSTED IN BACKUP.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HANDS.
ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT WE'RE MOVING ON TO FUTURE
[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
AGENDA ITEMS. ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN? OKAY, SO I'M ON ANOTHER NON-PROFIT BOARD AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON IS PROTECTING STREET TREES.AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE RESOLUTION THAT, UH, THEY'RE WORKING UP THERE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS, THE AGENDA'S LOOKING FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A TIME FRAME FOR YOU? IS THERE THERE A REASON WHY YOU WON'T? IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE, IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE VERY LONG.
NICOLE, DOES THAT SOUND DOABLE WITH NEXT MEETING SCHEDULE? YEAH, THERE IS, UH, ONE OTHER ITEM, SO PERFECT.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO PUT BACK, NOT ON THE NEXT MEETING, BUT IN NOVEMBER, UH, IS UM, REESTABLISHING THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE BIRD FRIENDLY DESIGN, SO.
I WILL SECOND THAT I, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OH YES.
UH, IT'S TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE HOLIDAYS AND, UH, I WOULD, UH, UH, BE HONORED TO HOST Y'ALL AGAIN AT THE HOUSE, UH, FOR OUR HOLIDAY PARTY.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE A DATE IN MIND, BUT IF Y'ALL HAVE A DATE, I CAN DO THAT.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN, WILL THERE BE ANYTHING FROM THE ARTIFICIAL TURF WORKING GROUP TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON, OR NOT YET? OH GOSH, WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING IN A WHILE.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? ALRIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, WHAT'S THE WORD? ANY DISAGREEMENTS WITH ADJOURNMENT? ANY OPPOSITION TO ADJOURNING? OKAY.
WITH THAT, THE TIME IS 8:56 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.