* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          OKAY, LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AT 1202. 
          AND SHAY'S WALKING IN. 
          HELLO EVERYBODY. 
          EVERYBODY'S HERE. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA CALL THE MEETING OF THE WATERFORD TASK FORCE TO ORDER. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, EMILY? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OKAY. 
          OUR FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          I MOVE APPROVAL. 
          I WAS LIKE, WHERE'S THE MINUTES? I'M NOT USED TO THIS LOGO ON TOP STILL. 
          OH, . 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A, A FIRST. 
          WAIT, I, I MOVED APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          I COULDN'T THINK OF THE WORD OF WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY. 
          WOW. 
          THAT'S AFTER A RIP RO START. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND. 
          CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH. 
          AND THEN, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? WORK ON THE VIDEO. 
          WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          HANEY. 
          HI TODD. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 9TH. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TODAY, Y'ALL. 
          SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN. 
          [2. Staff briefing regarding Lower Colorado River and Highland Lakes water supply conditions. Presentation by Emily Rafferty, Program Manager, Austin Water.]
WE GOT THE STAFF BRIEFING ON THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AND HIGHLAND LAKES WATER SUPPLY CONDITIONS, WHICH I PREDICT WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN LAST TIMES IN A GOOD WAY. 
          YEP. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WAIT, REALLY QUICK, PERRY SECONDED THAT MOTION. 
          MOTION. 
          CAN YOU GUYS SEE ME THAT MOTION? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HANEY. 
          WHAT WERE YOU ASKING? UH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          UH OH. 
          YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT HE, WHY AM I TALKING TO HIM? HE CAN'T HEAR ME. 
          , UM, WHO HAS THE CHAT? CAN SOME, CAN WE CHAT HIM ON THE ZOOM? YES. 
          OR YEAH, LET'S CHAT HIM AND SAY WE, WE CAN HEAR HIM, BUT HE CAN, YOU CAN, UH, CAN SOMEBODY THAT'S ONLINE SEE IF, IF HANEY CAN HEAR Y'ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          HANEY, CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU HEAR US? THIS IS PERRY HANEY. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YOU CAN SEE ME NOW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN SEE YOU. 
          CAN YOU HEAR US? I DON'T THINK I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          LET ME CHECK THE CHAT. 
          WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA SEND, UM, EMILY'S GONNA SEND HIM A CHAT, SO COULDN'T TELL IF UH, HE COULD HEAR MARISA OR NOT. 
          I DON'T THINK HE CAN HEAR ANYONE. 
          ANYONE. 
          OKAY. 
          HE'S LOOKING UP TO SEE IF HE CAN HEAR ANYONE, ANY VOICES. 
          OKAY. 
          AMY, WE CAN SEE YOU NOW. 
          CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN. 
          GOOD. 
          OH, GREAT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE BACK FINALLY. 
          ALRIGHT, HERE WE GO NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GLAD THAT THAT JUST SOMEHOW MYSTERIOUSLY FIXED ITSELF. 
          ME TOO. 
          EVERYBODY. 
          YEAH, I COULDN'T FIND THE CHAT, SO THAT'S GREAT THAT THAT WORKED OUT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CRISIS AVERTED. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          HI EVERYBODY, I'M EMILY RAFFERTY. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE Y'ALL AN UPDATE ON LOWER COLORADO RIVER AND HIGHLAND LAKES WATER SUPPLY CONDITIONS. 
          AND WE GOT A CLICKER. 
          SO THIS WILL BE, OH WAIT, I THINK I UNCLICKED IT WHEN I CLICKED THE CHAT. 
          SORRY, ONE SECOND. 
          YES, PROBLEM. 
          MIKE, DID HE GLARE AT YOU LIKE HE GLARED JUST LIKE SIDE EYE LIKE WEIRD MADE  MADE ME LIKE UNCOMFORTABLE AND THEN THE ONLY SEAT OPEN WAS RIGHT NEXT TO HIM AND I DECIDED, WAIT, WAIT MADELINE, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND THE BACK. 
          OKAY, THERE WE GO. 
          . 
          OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO HERE IS A GRAPH SHOWING THE INFLOWS INTO THE HIGHLAND LAKES. 
          THE LEFT BAR, THE BLUE IS SHOWING THE AVERAGE INFLOWS FROM 1942 TO PRESENT DAY. 
          THE NEXT BAR, THE NAVY BLUE, SHOWS THE DROUGHT OF RECORD AVERAGE BETWEEN 2008 AND 2015. 
          THE GREEN IS SHOWING 2025 AVERAGE INFLOWS AND JANUARY THROUGH SEPTEMBER ARE SHOWN IN PURPLE. 
          SO AS Y'ALL CAN SEE, WE GOT A LOT OF INFLOWS IN JULY. 
          A LOT OF RAIN. 
          UM, THAT RAIN FILLED THE LAKES UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CAPACITY FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2019. 
          SO THAT OFFICIALLY ENDED THE WATER SUPPLY DROUGHT THAT WE WERE IN BEFORE THEN. 
          UM, AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE AFTER THAT WE HAD A PRETTY DRY AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER WITH RELATIVELY LOW INFLOWS COMPARED TO AVERAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THIS IS SHOWING LAKES, BUCHA LAKES, BUCHANAN, AND TRAVIS COMBINED STORAGE 
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FROM 2005 TO OCTOBER 1ST, 2026. 
          UM, COMBINED STORAGE IS CURRENTLY AS OF TODAY AT 1.99 MILLION ACRE FEET AND WE'RE AT 95% FULL. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IN JULY THAT IT WENT ABOVE THE 2.0 MILLION ACRE FEET OF FULL. 
          AND THEN IT'S DROPPED SINCE IT'S PICKED BACK UP IN OCTOBER. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT CAPTURED IN THIS. 
          DID IT GET BACK TO FULL IN OCTOBER? NOT FULL, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT, NO, NOT YET BECAUSE A BUNCH, WE HAD A BUNCH OF WATER DOWN THE ANO MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE HAD A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFLOWS BUT IT DIDN'T GO BACK TO FULL. 
          AND THEN THIS IS SHOWING, UM, DROUGHT INTENSITY ACROSS TEXAS. 
          SO THE MAJORITY OF THE STATE IS IN SOME LEVEL OF DROUGHT. 
          YOU CAN SEE TRAVIS COUNTY HERE BOLDED AND IT'S IN SEVERE DROUGHT FOR THE MOST PART. 
          THE VERY FAR LIKE NORTHWEST CORNER IS IN MODERATE DROUGHT. 
          AND THEN HERE'S NOAH'S THREE MONTH OUTLOOK FOR NOVEMBER THROUGH JANUARY AND IT'S SHOWING EQUAL CHANCES OF TEMPERATURE AND ABOVE AVERAGE PRECIPITATION. 
          AND THEN THIS IS ABOUT NOAH'S EL NINO FORECAST. 
          SO EL NINO CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN WITH A STRONG TO VERY STRONG EL NINO, LIKELY THROUGH JANUARY TO MARCH OF 2027. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, ON THE GRAPH, THE RED BARS INDICATE EL NINO AND THERE ALL THE WAY TO A HUNDRED PERCENT CHANCE FOR THIS FALL INTO WINTER AND BEGINNING OF SPRING 2027. 
          AND JUST A FEW NOTES ON EL NINO. 
          SO THIS IS THE STRONGEST EL NINO IN RECORD HISTORY. 
          UM, THE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURE, WHICH IS A MEASURE OF EL NINO, UM, IS FORECAST TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS RECORD. 
          SO WE'RE PROJECTED TO HAVE ABOVE AVERAGE RAINFALL FORECAST THROUGH THE WINTER AND POTENTIALLY MORE STORMS WILL BE COMING TO TEXAS THROUGHOUT THE WINTER, WHICH WILL CREATE A CLOUDIER AND THEREFORE POTENTIALLY COOLER WINTER. 
          DESERVE THAT WE DO DESERVE THAT . 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING LAKES BUCHANAN AND TRAVIS COMBINED STORAGE PROJECTIONS. 
          SO EVERYTHING TO THE LEFT OF THE YELLOW LINE IS ACTUAL COMBINED STORAGE. 
          AND THEN TO THE RIGHT ARE THE PROJECTIONS, UM, DEPENDING ON THE POTENTIAL CONDITIONS, IF IT'S WET, MEDIAN, DRY OR EXTREMELY DRY. 
          AND THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, THE.IS SHOWING OUR CURRENT STORAGE. 
          SO THAT RAIN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE GOT EARLY OCTOBER HAS BUMPED US UP THERE. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRENDING. 
          UM, WHAT CONDITIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? PAUL? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          I'M NOT SURE YOU'LL ABLE TO ANSWER IT, EMILY, BUT UM, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT THIS TECHNICALLY, BUT IT IS A THOUGHT I HAD. 
          UM, IN A SCENARIO LIKE THIS WHERE WE HAVE FULL STORAGE OR NEAR FULL STORAGE, I'M THINKING AHEAD TO WHEN, LET'S SAY WE IMPLEMENT AN A SR PROJECT AT WHAT 'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF THAT I WOULD, I GUESS IS TO TAKE WHEN WE HAVE EXCESS AND PUT IT IN THE A SR AND GET IT OUT LATER, AT WHAT POINT MORE OR LESS DO WE PUT IT IN THE RESERVOIR? AT WHAT POINT DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE TAKING FROM OUR STORAGE THAT WE HAVE? 'CAUSE IT'S SO FULL OR NEAR FULL IN PUTTING IT IN EXCESS. 
          MARISSA, DO YOU, GO AHEAD MARISA. 
          YEAH, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO HOP IN THERE. 
          UM, AT THIS POINT WE WOULD BE TAKING WATER FROM OUR COLORADO BEHAN LAKE SUPPLIES IN, IN A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO WHERE WE HAD A SR ONLINE AND WE WOULD BE LIKELY STORING WATER, UM, IN, IN THAT PROJECT. 
          UM, I CAN GO BACK AND CHECK TO SEE WHAT OUR OPERATIONAL RULES WERE THAT WE USED IN THE LAST ROUND OF WATER AVAILABILITY MODELING TO GET YOU A, UM, VOLUMETRIC STORAGE TARGET. 
          BUT WE DID HAVE THOSE VOLUMETRIC, UM, TARGETS SET. 
          UM, UH, GENERALLY ABOVE 1 MILLION ACRE FEET, UH, UH, COMBINED STORAGE, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. 
          AND I'LL GO BACK AND CONFIRM THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE AN OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT WILL, SIMILAR TO THE WAY WE HAVE A DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN THAT WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND WHEN TO FILL AND WHEN TO DRAW. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          JUST CURIOUS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE WOULD HAPPILY BE FILLING IT UP RIGHT NOW. 
          WE WOULD HAVE ONE FIGURED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, ANY, WHOOPS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR EMILY ABOUT THIS? 
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OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS MOVING. 
          QUESTION. 
          OH, ERIC, YOU'RE ON MUTE, PERRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M NOT MUTE NOW. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP. 
          UM, IF WE WERE TAKING WATER OUT AND STORING IT, WOULD IT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THE LAKE LEVEL OR WOULD WE JUST CUT WATER HEADING DOWNSTREAM? OR WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE ON THE GROUND? YEAH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE OUR RUN OF RIVER RIGHTS. 
          I THINK WE WOULD USE THOSE RUN OF RIVER RIGHTS FIRST, UM, TO DIVERT WATER, TREAT IT, AND THEN STORE IT. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT THINKING THAT THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE WOULD DIVERT, UM, ESPECIALLY IN WATER CONDITIONS, WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THE AMOUNT OF WATER STORED IN EITHER LAKES TRAVIS OR BUCHANAN. 
          BUT AGAIN, AS SHAY MENTIONED, WE WOULD HAVE AN OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT WOULD GUIDE KIND OF WHEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DIVERT AND STORE WATER IN THE A SR AND WE'D BE DEVELOPING THAT WITH CONSIDERATION OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SEVERE DROUGHT CONDITIONS THAT MAY LIMIT OUR ABILITY TO PULL WATER. 
          UM, THOSE TIMES WHEN OUR DIVERSION OF ADDITIONAL WATER WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE GREATER IMPACTS ON THE HIGHLAND LAKES. 
          SO IT NOT, IT WON'T NECESSARILY BRING THE LAKE LEVEL DOWN. 
          IT COULD, BUT IT WOULDN'T NE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM STORAGE IS NOT GONNA BE THAT LARGE. 
          I MEAN, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW YET, BUT IT'S LIKE, WHAT, 30,000 IS A PLAN? YEAH. 
          WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT NUMBER YET, WHAT THE, THE TOTAL STORAGE VOLUME COULD BE, BUT IT'S A MUCH SMALLER VOLUME THAN THE TOTAL VOLUME OF WATER THAT'S STORED IN EITHER LIKE, UM, TRAVIS OR BUCHANAN. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE, OH YEAH, WE'RE TALKING LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND ACRE FEET MOST LIKELY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO PERCENT WISE, PRETTY SMALL OF THE TOTAL COMBINED STORAGE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WHEN WE'D BE FILLING IT WOULD BE LIKELY OVER A LARGER PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T BE FAST, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A KIND OF A SLOW RAMP UP. 
          AND MAYBE AS WE LEARN MORE ABOUT THE AS SR JUST PINNING THIS FOR THE FUTURE, 'CAUSE IT'S, ALL THESE QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF LIKE, ALONG THOSE LINES IS UNDERSTANDING TOO. 
          UM, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST INTELLECTUAL CURIOSITY AND NOT SUPER GERMANE, BUT LIKE RUN OF RIVER VERSUS STORED WATER. 
          DOES IT COUNT TOWARDS OUR TRIGGER, UM, STORAGE AMOUNT, LIKE WHEN WE BE PULLING IT OUT, ET CETERA? LIKE JUST, YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION, THE KIND OF JUST UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WORKS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          EVERYONE LOOKS OKAY. 
          LET'S MOVE 
          [3. Staff briefing regarding Council resolution on large volume water users and related stakeholder engagement. Presentation by Marisa Flores Gonzalez, Water Resources Team Supervisor; Emlea Chanslor, Chief of Staff, Austin Water.]
ON TO THE STAFF BRIEFING ON LARGE VOLUME WATER USERS AND RELATED STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. 
          I KNOW SEVERAL OF US WERE AT THE LARGE WATER USERS PUBLIC MEETING WORKSHOP, OPEN HOUSE, OPEN HOUSE, THANK YOU. 
          UM, LAST MONDAY A WEEK AGO, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE AND LOTS OF INFORMATION. 
          UM, SO LET'S HEAR ABOUT THAT AND, AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE TASK FORCE TOO. 
          THANKS. 
          WELCOME, EMILY. 
          I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, KICK US OFF AND, UM, SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WAS SHARED AT THE OPEN HOUSE AND THEN EMILY WILL PROVIDE SOME, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AND NEXT STEPS. 
          UM, I'M SORRY I COULDN'T BE WITH Y'ALL TODAY. 
          UM, BUT I'M HAPPY THAT I'M ABLE TO JOIN REMOTELY AND THE SOUND IS AWESOME. 
          UM, THIS IS A BIG IMPROVEMENT TO SOME OF THE REMOTE EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH THE TASK FORCE IS GREAT. 
          SORRY, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE START? SURE. 
          JENNIFER? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS THIS A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE OPEN HOUSE OR ARE YOU GONNA GIVE A PRESENTATION WHERE YOU UPDATE THE TASK FORCE ON WHAT WAS APPROVED AT CITY COUNCIL AND THE WHOLE TIMELINE? BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET SINCE JUNE, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S REALLY BEEN A PRESENTATION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH LARGE WATER USERS AT ALL. 
          I MEAN, WE APPROVE THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT'S THE LAST TIME THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED IN A MEETING. 
          I THINK I'M GOING TO SHARE AN OVERVIEW. 
          THE TIMELINE AND THIS PRESENTATION IS INTENDED TO LARGELY SHARE WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE OPEN HOUSE. 
          UM, WE DID SHARE THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 23RD, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP AND SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT RESOLUTION AND WHAT IT CONTAINS. 
          WE 
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ANTICIPATED THAT, UM, THE TASK FORCE WOULD WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT NEXT STEPS, AND SO BELIEVE THAT EMILY WILL BE SPEAKING TO WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE TO RESPOND TO THE RESOLUTION. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ANTICIPATED THAT THE TASK FORCE WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. 
          SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE THIS ITEM, UM, EARLY IN OUR AGENDA TO ALLOW FOR THAT DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST GIVING SOME BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT AND THEN MOVE INTO THE OPEN HOUSE, UH, CONTENT, IF THAT SOUNDS OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE TASK FORCE WANTS TO HEAR FROM. 
          I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A ZOOM IN TO DO THE OPEN HOUSE WITHOUT KIND OF BRIEFING ON LIKE WHAT ALL IS IN THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL THAT WAS PASSED. 
          YOU DID SEND IT OUT BY EMAIL, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY KIND OF PRESENTATION ON IT. 
          AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT'S NOT PART OF THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. 
          ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT I THINK ARE MORE IN-HOUSE, BUT I MEAN, MAYBE THAT COULD BE AT ANOTHER MEETING WHERE THERE'S LIKE AN OVERALL TIME TIMELINE. 
          AND I THINK ALSO JUST A NOTE FOR THE, WHEN YOU DO DISCUSS IT, I THINK LIKE IT'S A LITTLE UNCLEAR TO ME, LIKE THERE'S A BRIEFING TO THE CLIMATE, WATER AND ENVIRONMENT PARKS COMMITTEE IN DECEMBER, BUT THEN WHAT IS THE PLAN TIMEFRAME FROM THERE ON SOMETHING THAT, WHAT HAS TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION? MM-HMM . 
          WHAT'S LIKE INTERNAL RULES. 
          I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SENSE OF THAT. 
          SO LET'S, UM, IF, IF THIS, HOW ABOUT THIS FOR A PLAN? WE'LL LET MARISA AND EMILY GO THROUGH THE, UM, ITEMS THAT THEY PLAN TO DISCUSS AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT OTHER ITEMS, UM, THE TASK FORCE WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP. 
          THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ON JULY 23RD, UH, 2026, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS RELATED TO LARGE VOLUME WATER USERS, UM, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW CUSTOMER APPLICATION PROCESS, INDIVIDUAL WATER CONSERVATION PLANS, UH, ANNUAL REPORTING, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND OTHER RELATED CONSIDERATIONS. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE SENT OUT A COPY OR A LINK TO THAT RESOLUTION, UM, AND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT RESOLUTION, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THAT COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          ON FOLLOW UP. 
          ON OCTOBER 5TH, UM, AUSTIN WATER HELD A PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AT THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND TO SEEK COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON AUSTIN WATER'S PROPOSED POLICY CONCEPTS AND FOR LARGE WATER USERS IN OUR SERVICE AREA IN RESPONSE TO THIS RESOLUTION AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AT THAT OPEN HOUSE WILL HELP TO INFORM STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED ON DECEMBER 9TH, 2026 TO THE CLIMATE WATER ENVIRONMENT AND PARKS TO THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, I AM GONNA GO THROUGH AND JUST TALK ABOUT THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED AT THE OPEN HOUSE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE POSTED THE BOARDS THAT WERE, UM, PROVIDED AT THAT OPEN HOUSE AS BACKUP AS A, UH, ON THE WATER FORWARD TASK FORCE WEBPAGE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ALSO CONTAINED WITH THE NEW PACKETS. 
          UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE RESOLUTION AND WHAT WAS OUTLINED IN THE RESOLUTION, AUSTIN WATER, UH, OUTLINED A DRAFT CUSTOMER APPLICATION PROCESS FOR WHAT WE'RE CALLING HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS. 
          UM, THESE HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS, UH, WOULD BE DEFINED AS, UH, ONE OR SEVERAL COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. 
          AND WE DEFINE COMMERCIAL AS INCLUDING BOTH INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING WITH HISTORICAL OR PROJECTED WATER USE ABOVE 85 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR. 
          AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE OR COULD INCLUDE BOTH PORTABLE AND NON PORTABLE WATER. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED SOME GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT, UH, CONCEPT ALREADY THAT 85 MILLION GALLON PER YEAR THRESHOLD ALIGNS WITH THE EXISTING LARGE VOLUME CUSTOMER CLASS VOLUME THRESHOLD. 
          UH, WE EXPLAINED IN THE WORKSHOP THAT CUSTOMERS MEETING THIS THRESHOLD WOULD BE SUBJECT TO NEW REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING THAT SEPARATE CUSTOMER APPLICATION PROCESS I MENTIONED, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE SUBMITTAL OF A WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, AS WELL AS WATER BUDGETING AND ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          THE DRAFT, UM, HIGH IMPACT WATER USER CUSTOMER APPLICATION PROCESS THAT WE OUTLINED WOULD BUILD ON THE EXISTING SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST, SITE DEVELOPMENT, PERMIT REVIEW, AND BUILDING REVIEW PROCESSES THAT DEVELOPERS ALREADY NAVIGATE. 
          THE NEW PROCESS WOULD ADD REQUIRED SUBMITTAL OF AVERAGE YEARLY WATER USAGE AT THE SER STAGE 
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AND WOULD FLAG THOSE PROJECTS, UM, THAT COULD BE HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS IF THEIR ESTIMATED WATER USE EXCEEDS THE PROPOSED THRESHOLD. 
          AND DEVELOPERS AT THIS SER STAGE WOULD BE NOTIFIED OF FEATURE WATER CONSERVATION REUSE AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          LATER AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A WATER BENCHMARKING APPLICATION TO PRODUCE DETAILED ESTIMATES OF FUTURE WATER USE. 
          HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS WOULD ALSO NEED TO SUBMIT AN INDIVIDUAL WATER CONSERVATION PLAN THAT WILL BE TAILORED FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, DEVELOPERS COULD USE A STAFF DEVELOPED WATER BALANCE CALCULATOR TO CREATE DETAILED ESTIMATES OF WATER USE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THEIR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          AND THOSE INDIVIDUALIZED WATER CONSERVATION PLANS WOULD THEN EXPLAIN WHAT CONSERVATION MEASURES AND TECHNOLOGIES THE SITE WOULD USE TO REDUCE DEMAND, HOW REUSE WATER WOULD BE USED TO MEET NON-POTABLE NEEDS, AND HOW WASTEWATER FROM THE SITE WOULD BE MANAGED RESPONSIBLY. 
          WATER CONSERVATION PLANS WOULD ALSO SET FIVE AND 10 YEAR MEASURABLE WATER USE GOALS AS EITHER TOTAL GALLONS USED OR A PERCENTAGE REDUCED FROM A BASE YEAR. 
          NOW, IF WATER CONSERVATION PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED DID NOT MEET AUSTIN WATER STANDARDS, THEY WOULD THEN, UH, REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          AND AUSTIN WATER COULD ALSO ESTABLISH ENFORCEMENT TOOLS TO MAINTAIN COMPLIANCE WITH INDIVIDUAL WATER CONSERVATION PLANS, INCLUDING REQUIRING CORRECTIVE ACTION PLANS FOR IMPOSING EXCESS USE CHARGES OR PENALTIES OR NON-COMPLIANCE. 
          AUSTIN WATERS ALSO CONSIDERING REQUIRING THAT PLANS BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS TO MAINTAIN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITYWIDE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          WE ALSO PRESENTED THE CONCEPT OF APPLYING WATER BUDGETS TO HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS. 
          WATER BUDGETS WOULD ESTABLISH A REASONABLE VOLUME OF EFFICIENT USAGE FOR HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS. 
          BASED ON DATA COLLECTED THROUGH THE WATER BENCHMARKING APPLICATION AND METER READINGS AND HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS EXCEEDING THEIR WATER BUDGET COULD PAY HIGHER RATES TO ENCOURAGE CONSERVATION AND REDUCTION IN WATER USE. 
          UM, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WATER FORWARD ALREADY INCLUDES A STRATEGY TO IMPLEMENT WATER BUDGETING ACROSS ALL SECTORS BY THE 2030 DECADE. 
          AND THIS PROPOSAL WOULD SEEK TO ACCELERATE THAT IMPLEMENTATION FOR HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS. 
          AUSTIN WATER ALSO SHARED A PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONAL ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR HIGH IMPACT USERS. 
          AND THOSE REPORTS COULD, UM, REQUIRE THAT HIGH IMPACT WATER USERS SHARE INFORMATION, INCLUDING THEIR WATER USAGE FROM ALL SOURCES REPORTED, UM, AT A MONTHLY TIME STEP OF REPORTING ON WATER THAT LEAVES THE SITE SUCH AS WASTEWATER, OTHER DISCHARGE, HOW MUCH WATER WILL BE USED FOR COOLING OR IS USED FOR COOLING, UM, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WAYS THAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED THEIR, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR WATER CONSERVATION PLANS. 
          UM, AND THIS INFORMATION WOULD INFORM AUSTIN WATER'S ANNUAL REPORTING TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          AS IS OUTLINED IN THE LARGE VOLUME CUSTOM RESOLUTION, AUSTIN WATER ALREADY REPORTS ON ITS LARGEST CUSTOMERS ANNUALLY, AND THIS NEW REPORTING PROCESS FOR HIGH IMPACT USERS WOULD ENHANCE THAT LARGE CUSTOMER ANNUAL REPORTING AND COULD BEGIN IN MAY OF 2027. 
          UH, STAFF ENCOURAGE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SHARE THEIR FEEDBACK THROUGH PAPER SURVEYS AS WELL AS THE SPEAK UP AUSTIN PAGE THAT WAS LAUNCHED ONLINE. 
          AND EMILY IS PREPARED TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED AS WELL AS NEXT STEPS. 
          HI Y'ALL, I'M EMILY CHANCELLOR, I'M CHIEF OF STAFF AT AUSTIN WATER. 
          PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY. 
          UM, WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE PUBLICIZED THE OPEN HOUSE MEETING THROUGH A PRESS RELEASE, SOCIAL MEDIA POST. 
          WE SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO GET UPDATES ABOUT WATER FORWARD. 
          WE ALSO NOTIFIED YOU ALL OUR WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION, UH, RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSIONERS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONERS. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE SO PLEASED TO HAVE SEVERAL OF YOU THERE AS WELL AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS. 
          WE HAD NEARLY 30 FOLKS WHO SIGNED IN, UH, WHO ATTENDED, UH, 28 TO BE EXACT. 
          WE HAD A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION, DID A LOT OF MEDIA INTERVIEWS AT AT THE MEETING. 
          UM, WE COLLECTED 11 WRITTEN SURVEYS THAT NIGHT. 
          AND THEN, LIKE MARISA MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT WILL BE OPEN UNTIL THE 18TH. 
          AND SO WE'VE GOTTEN ABOUT A DOZEN RESPONSES THROUGH THE ONLINE SURVEY, 
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UM, SO FAR. 
          UH, WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS ITEM HERE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AT THE OPEN HOUSE MEETING. 
          WE REALLY WORKED TO STRUCTURE THAT WHERE WE'RE GIVING AN OVERVIEW OF OUR CURRENT PRACTICES AND THEN OPENING UP, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS THAT FOLKS CAN GIVE US INPUT ON TO INFORM POLICY, UM, PRO POLICY PROPOSALS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING LATER. 
          SO TO SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE, UH, PER THE RESOLUTION, WE WILL BE COMING BACK ON DECEMBER 9TH WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE CLIMATE, WATER ENVIRONMENT AND PARKS. 
          AND SO, UH, WE, UM, ON THE STAFF SIDE ARE WORKING ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL PUT INTO A MEMO AND PRESENTATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED ON THAT DATE. 
          THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THAT COMMITTEE ALSO, AND THEN THAT WILL ALSO INCLUDE OUR TIMELINE TO COME BACK WITH CODE AMENDMENTS AND, UM, ITEMS THAT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION. 
          SO WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT TIMELINE ALSO, UM, AT, AT THIS TIME. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING OR JUST WANNA HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POLICY PROPOSALS AND THE POLICY QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT'S NOW IS THE TIME FOR THAT. 
          DOES THIS TASK FORCE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE DECEMBER PRESENTATION? WE MEET ON THE, OUR NEXT? I DON'T, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SCHEDULE. 
          EMILY, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT? I THINK WE MEET DECEMBER 8TH THE DAY BEFORE. 
          YEAH, WE MEET ON DECEMBER 8TH. 
          SO THIS IS IT. 
          THIS IS THE ONLY TIME TO THAT'S THE PRESENTATION TO GET ANY DISCUSSION. 
          WELL, I'M SURE THE TASK FORCE WANTED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MEETING. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WE COULD DISCUSS TODAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO. 
          I WAS JUST CURIOUS THIS YEAH, DID YOU SAY THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE GONNA GO TO THE CLIMATE ENVIRONMENT PARKS COMMITTEE ON THE NINTH AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE CODE AMENDMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTION FOR CITY COUNCIL FROM THAT. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT? WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THAT TIMELINE TO SHARE TODAY. 
          WE'RE STILL, WE'LL, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT AND IT ALSO, WE EXPECT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THAT, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THAT DAY, UH, THAT WILL GUIDE OUR, OUR SCHEDULE AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'LL BE WELL PUBLICIZED I GUESS I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL BE FIGURING THAT OUT AND WE'LL BE SHARING IT. 
          THE SCHEDULE, I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING IF FOR THE CODE AMENDMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTION OR LIKE IF THERE IS A BENCHMARK IN THERE FOR SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK, LIKE FORMAL FROM THE TASK FORCE, LIKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR LIKE A YEAH, YOU KNOW, UM, A RECOMMENDATION FROM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE WHAT IT WOULD BE, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER FROM MY TIME ON ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THE ACTION THAT THEY'LL DO THERE MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LIKE REALLY SET UP LIKE THAT, BUT RIGHT. 
          BUT IF THERE, IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT OR DESIRE TO DO THAT FROM THE GROUP, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE PRETTY FAR DOWN THE LINE AT THAT POINT ANYWAY, SO MAYBE WE NEED TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEN SEE IF WE WANNA TRY TO FIND AN, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT BEYOND THIS, THIS COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          I MEAN, BEYOND THE COMMITTEE MEETING ON DECEMBER 9TH AND EIGHTH. 
          OKAY. 
          ROBERT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT REQUIRING CLOSED LOOP COOLING FOR THESE SYSTEMS? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE, SOME OF THE PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE, WHICH ARE GREAT IDEAS, WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS LIKE YOU COULD BE VERY WATER EFFICIENT WITH AN OPEN LOOP COOLING SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND I GUESS WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY PER A HUNDRED MEGAWATTS OF, OF COMPUTE. 
          AND SO AT 1.2 GIGAWATT DATA CENTER IS GONNA USE ABOUT 12 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY IF IT'S AN OPEN LOOP, UM, COOLING SYSTEM. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED. 
          I KNOW, UM, WE'VE BEEN STAYING AWAY FROM SPECIFICALLY DOING THINGS ON DATA CENTERS, BUT I'M WONDERING IF WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, WELL LOOK AT THAT BIGGER PICTURE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S LIKE, LIKE IF AUSTIN GOT HIT WITH THREE OPEN LOOP DATA CENTERS, THAT'S 36 MILLION GALLONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THAT TO SELL. 
          MAYBE YOU DO, BUT  I BET MARISA WILL WILL JUMP IN ON THIS. 
          AND I GUESS I WANNA ALSO SAY THAT THERE WAS A, AN ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DATA CENTERS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO, UM, RESPOND TO. 
          AND IF YOU, AND WE CAN PROVIDE A LINK TO THAT OF COURSE, IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY. 
          SO THIS WORK IS HAPPENING, UM, COORDINATED AND CONCURRENTLY AND I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE IF SHEA OR MARISA MIGHT WANNA JUMP IN 
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ON THIS. 
          WE ARE DISCUSSING THE POSSIBILITY OF REQUIRING CLOSED LOOP COOLING, UM, AS, UM, UH, AS A TECHNOLOGY OR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COULD HAVE HIGH, UH, COOLING WATER DEMANDS. 
          AND THERE IS DISCUSSION OF JUST KIND OF WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO REQUIRE A SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY SINCE TECHNOLOGIES DO CHANGE. 
          BUT I THINK AS A, AS A, AS A MEASURE TO, UM, TRY TO CREATE THE MOST EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NEAR TERM AND TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THESE, UH, LARGE COOLING DEMANDS, IT MAY BE A, A REASONABLE MEASURE TO INCLUDE. 
          UM, AND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD REVISIT OVER TIME AS TECHNOLOGY EVOLVES. 
          AND THERE, AND THERE ARE, ARE OTHER CITIES LIKE TEMPE AND PHOENIX THAT HAVE BANNED OPEN LOOP COOLING. 
          UM, I'M LAS VEGAS DOES EVEN BEFORE THIS GENERATIVE AI CRAZE HIT. 
          SO IT'S CERTAINLY NOT UN UNPRECEDENTED. 
          UM, BUT I'M JUST, YEAH, JUST SEEMS LIKE IF THERE'S A ALREADY EXISTING TECHNOLOGY TO ELIMINATE THAT WATER USE, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SAY A, A CHIP MANUFACTURER THAT CAN'T MAKE CHIPS WITHOUT WATER. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD STILL BE EFFICIENT AND, AND, UH, CONSIDER CONNECTING INTO WATER REUSE. 
          BUT WITH COOLING THERE, THERE IS AN OPTION TO, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE WATER USE BY 99% FROM OPEN LOOP COOLING. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, FOLKS? UH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE, I THINK YOU SAID THERE WERE 11 SURVEYS THAT WERE COMPLETED AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THE, IF THE FEEDBACK YOU WERE GETTING WAS FROM THE POTENTIAL HIGH IMPACT USER COMMUNITY OR IF IT WAS MORE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR A MIXTURE OF BOTH. 
          UM, JUST KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE FEEDBACK, UM, FROM THOSE SURVEYS AND THE, AND THE FOLKS THAT WERE RESPONDING. 
          WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT AS FAR AS ATTENDEES, WE REALLY DID HAVE A MIX, I THINK THERE, UM, SO IT WAS NOT OVERWHELMINGLY REPRESENTING LARGE USERS. 
          WE HAD FOLKS FROM NEIGHBORHOODS FROM COMMISSIONS LIKE I MENTIONED, AND, UM, AS WELL AS SOME BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVES. 
          SO WE, WE HAD A GOOD MIX OF FOLKS ATTENDING. 
          THE SURVEY ITSELF, I THINK DOES NOT IDENTIFY, UM, WHO, WHO THEY'RE REPRESENTING. 
          IT'S JUST INPUT, GENERAL INPUT, ANY HIGH LEVEL FEEDBACK OF WHAT YOU HAVE. 
          YEAH, WE'RE STILL COMPILING THE, THE FEEDBACK. 
          AND SO I DON'T HAVE A SUMMARY OF THAT YET, BUT WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. 
          GREAT. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          DID I SEE ANOTHER QUESTION? WAS IT FROM TODD? NO, PERRY. 
          I REALLY, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE WATER USAGE OF THESE DATA CENTERS. 
          IF IT'S A CLOSED SYSTEM, THEN IT'S LIKE YOUR CAR AND THERE'S A RADIATOR AND THERE'S SOME WAY TO I GUESS, KEEP THAT WATER IN THE CLOSED SYSTEM. 
          COOL. 
          SO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER YOU'RE HAVING TO, TO COOL THE WATER. 
          AND IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT'S AUTHORITATIVE WE CAN TALK TO? 'CAUSE I DON'T GET IT. 
          I DON'T SEE WITH A CLOSED SYSTEM HOW WE, HOW IT COULD USE SO MUCH WATER. 
          UM, 'CAUSE APPARENTLY EITHER WAY YOU USE A TON OF WATER. 
          SOMEONE JUST SAID IT'S 90 PLUS PERCENT MORE EFFICIENT WITH A CLOSED SYSTEM. 
          IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME PEOPLE WOULD JUST BE JUMPING ALL OVER THAT TECHNOLOGY AND WE'D QUIT TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE. 
          I I, I KNOW I'M RAMBLING, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY CURIOUS BECAUSE IT'S THE TOPIC OF THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS A WHOLE LOT MORE ABOUT IT, WE COULD TALK TO. 
          BUT ANYWAY, JUST TO COMMENT, THE, THE OPEN LOOP SYSTEM IS EVAPORATIVE COOLING. 
          SO I WENT TO COLLEGE IN NEW MEXICO AND WE HAD SWAMP COOLERS WHERE YOU, YOU DRIP WATER AND YOU BLOW COOL OR BLOW DRY AIR THROUGH IT AND IT CREATES COOL WATER. 
          SO, SO, SO A LOT OF THESE HISTORICALLY, A LOT OF THESE KINDA LEGACY DATA CENTERS, WHICH WERE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, USED OPEN LOOP COOLING. 
          UM, AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON. 
          THERE'S LIKE PARTS OF UT YOU WALK THROUGH AND YOU HEAR THESE WATERFALLS COMING THROUGH THESE BUILDINGS. 
          THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE EVAPORATIVE COOLING OPEN LOOP. 
          AND SO YOU'RE LOSING WATER THROUGH EVAPORATION TO THE ATMOSPHERE. 
          THE CLOSED LOOP WOULD BE USING A DIFFERENT HEAT EXCHANGER THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE EVAPORATING WATER. 
          SO WATER IS PROBABLY STILL INVOLVED AND CHARGING THE LOOP, UM, MAYBE TO THE TUNE OF ONE OR 2 MILLION GALLONS WHEN THEY FIRST CHARGED THE LOOP. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'S MORE MECHANICAL TYPE COOLING BEING USED TO COOL THAT WATER. 
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DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. 
          IT IT, IT DOES. 
          BUT IT, IT, LIKE IN A CAR, FOR INSTANCE, WHICH IS AN OVERSIMPLIFIED MODEL, YOU, YOU, YOU BLOW AIR THROUGH A RADIATOR. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND THAT COOLS THE WATER. 
          UH, IF YOU HAVE A BOAT, UH, THAT'S DRIVEN BY ENGINES AS OPPOSED TO SAILS, THEY HAVE CLOSED COOLING SYSTEMS, BUT THEN THEY RUN OCEAN WATER THROUGH OVER THE RADIATOR TO COOL IT. 
          AND I GUESS IT, IT WOULD JUST SEEM TO ME THAT THE, THE CLOSED SYSTEM HAS GOTTA BE A BETTER IDEA. 
          BUT AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU COOL THE CLOSED SYSTEM? HOW DO YOU COOL THAT RADIATOR AND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND LIKE SO ANALOG, THIS EVAPORATIVE COOLING WHERE YOU JUST USE EVAPORATION TO CHANGE THE TEMPERATURE. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I'M RAMBLING ANYWAY. 
          YES, YOU HELPED ME A LITTLE BIT OPEN, BUT I'M STILL LOST OPEN LOOP. 
          OPEN LOOP IS COST LESS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY FOLKS USE IT VERSUS THE INITIAL COST MORE MECHANICAL. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE OFFICIAL COST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, UM, BUT IT COSTS MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, MORE MECHANICAL TYPE COOLING. 
          YEAH, I THINK. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. 
          THE HOUSTON ADVANCED RESEARCH CENTER HAS DONE SOME REALLY GOOD STUDIES AND REPORTS ON, UM, KIND OF WATER AND ENERGY USAGE FOR DATA CENTERS. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SHARE AROUND. 
          THERE'S AT LEAST ONE STUDY THAT I THOUGHT WAS A REALLY GOOD AND CONCISE SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, UM, THAT WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR TASKFORCE MEMBERS. 
          YEAH, THEY HAVE THAT THIRST FOR POWER REPORT AND SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, MADELINE, I SEE YOUR HAND GO UP ON YOUR, IN THE QUEUE OF ME THEN PAUL, AND THEN YOU. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS HERE, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE ALSO OF WATER SUPPLY AND AFFORDABILITY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PAY FOR WATER IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS EVERYBODY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED AT THE OPEN HOUSE WAS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY SAID WE'RE USING ABOUT 175,000 ACRE FEET OF WATER PER YEAR RIGHT NOW THINKING ABOUT THE TRIGGER, THE, THE TRIGGER WHERE WE HAVE TO START PAYING ON A PER ACRE FOOT BASIS TO LCRA, WHICH THE GOING RATE'S $165 I BELIEVE, PER ACRE FOOT AND MAYBE GONNA GO UP, UM, ONCE WE START USING 201,000 GALLONS PER YEAR FOR TWO YEARS IN A ROW. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO START PAYING THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HUGE IMPACT FOR AFFORDABILITY FOR AUSTINITES. 
          UM, AND WE BRING IN SEVERAL LARGE DATA CENTERS LIKE THAT MOVES US AGGRESSIVELY TOWARDS THAT TARGET, UM, WITH WATER USE. 
          SO I THINK THAT HAVING LARGE WATER USERS, SOME INDUSTRY, UM, COMBINED WITH JUST REGULAR GROWTH AND AWESOME, BUT PUSHING US TOWARDS THAT, THAT THAT'S LIKE A REALLY HUGE CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THAT JUST DOESN'T IMPACT OUR WATER. 
          IT IMPACTS OUR WATER SUPPLY, WHICH EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT IN A BIG WAY, BUT ALSO IMPACTS AFFORDABILITY ACROSS THE CITY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S NOTICED, BUT EVERY, WHEN YOU GET YOUR CONSOLIDATED AUSTIN UTILITIES BILL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS HAVE GONE UP ADDING TO THE BIGGEST BILLS I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. 
          SO, UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A FACTOR THAT WE ALSO REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT HERE IS THAT TRIGGER HOW WE DON'T KIND OF MOVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN WALKING TOWARDS IT, BUT HOW WE DON'T START RUNNING TOWARDS IT BECAUSE OF, OF LARGE WATER USERS COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, THEY NEED TO USE, THEY NEED TO, WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN THAT GROWTH AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          WE HAVE SOME TOOLS, SOME TOOLS LIKE BEING REUSE AND CONSERVATION, WHICH DON'T COUNT TOWARDS THAT. 
          BUT, UM, JUST TO, IN ME, IN MY MIND, THAT'S LIKE A REALLY BIG FACTOR THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S BEEN ON OUR MINDS AS WELL. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE IN, UH, I'LL LET THERESA CORRECT ME IF I GET ANY DETAILS WRONG HERE, BUT IN 1999 WHEN WE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HIT THAT TRIGGER IN LIKE 2015 MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND WE STILL HAVEN'T, AND THAT'S A REAL CREDIT TO OUR EFFORTS AND OUR COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT ON WATER CONSERVATION. 
          UM, AND SO CERTAINLY AS WE THINK ABOUT, UM, OUR FUTURE DEMANDS, WE ARE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT THAT, THE TRIGGER AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR AFFORDABILITY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR, UM, EQUITABLE COST RECOVERY IN OUR, IN OUR COST OF SERVICE STUDIES. 
          AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A PIECE THAT'S BEING DAYLIGHTED ENOUGH IN THE CONVERSATIONS, ACTUALLY. 
          IT'S NOT BEING LIGHTED AT ALL. 
          LIKE IT WASN'T IN THE, IN THE BOARDS AND, AND STUFF. 
          LIKE I WAS IN ONE OF 'EM AND I BROUGHT IT UP, UM, AND THEN, 
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OH, AND THEN THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN MY LITTLE COHORT WERE LIKE, OH, TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS. 
          BUT LIKE, THAT IS A REALLY BIG PIECE. 
          AND I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND STUFF, THAT THAT IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE AND HOW WE PUT IT TOGETHER. 
          AND ONE OF THE DRIVERS FOR, UM, IN MY MIND SHOULD BE ONE OF THE IMPORTANT DRIVERS IN DECISION MAKING BEHIND THIS. 
          AND UM, UM, 'CAUSE EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT NOT ONLY WATER SUPPLY, BUT AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S GOOD FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, PAUL, AND UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT PAUL, DID YOU WANNA GO NEXT AND THEN WE CAN TEE UP MADELINE NEXT? SURE, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          YEAH, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          UM, COUPLE CLARIFYING THINGS. 
          SO IN OUR CURRENT PROCESS, AND THERE'S A LITTLE SLIDE ABOUT THIS ON PAGE FOUR, AND I WAS AT THE MEETING AND IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY NICE TO TALK TO EVERYONE AND, AND HELPFUL. 
          UM, SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THOUGH. 
          SO IN THE CURRENT PROCESS, WHEN WE SAY THAT AUSTIN WATER ON STEP ONE CHECKS APPLICANT'S ESTIMATED WATER USE, UM, DOES THAT CURRENTLY INCLUDE, DO THEY GIVE YOU AN ESTIMATE OF POTABLE VERSUS NON POTABLE IN THAT STAGE? WE GET AN ESTIMATE OF POTABLE VERSUS NON POTABLE AND THE WATER BENCHMARKING APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT'S STEP TWO AND THAT'S AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE. 
          AND, AND IN TERMS OF DEMANDS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, IF, IF THERE'S, UM, I, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE AND SEE IF YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE, I, I WILL, I'LL SAY TOO THAT IN THE SERVICE A EXTENSION REQUEST PHASE, WE, WE GET WATER SCRS, WASTEWATER, SCRS. 
          WE DO ALSO ARE GETTING RECLAIMED WATER SCRS. 
          SO THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY THINKING ABOUT EXTENDING RECLAIMED, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DO IT, BUT, UH, SOME THAT ARE NOT YET REQUIRED BUT ARE INTERESTED IN FIGURING OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE RECLAIMED USE IN THEIR SITES. 
          SO THEY WOULD DO A SEPARATE SER FOR A RECLA, IF IT'S LIKE A BIG NEW PROJECT THAT'S GONNA USE SOME POTABLE AND SOME RECLAIM, THEY SUBMIT TO SCRS. 
          IF, IF THEY KNOW THEY WANNA BRING RECLAIMED WATER TO THEIR SITE, THEN THEY'LL SUBMIT A RECLAIMED WATER SPECIFIC SCR BECAUSE THE, WHAT AN SCR IS ON OUR SIDE IS A SERVICE PLAN. 
          AND SO THAT SERVICE PLAN IS DEPENDENT ON WHAT WE'RE SERVING, WHETHER IT'S WATER WASTEWATER OR RECLAIMED WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEN YOU KIND OF NEED TO COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE TO DETERMINE THEIR TOTAL WATER USE, OR IS THAT GONNA SHOW UP IN THE WATER BENCHMARKING APPLICATION? I THINK, I THINK THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT IN THE IS IN THE SERVICE A EXTENSION REQUEST PHASE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXPLORING AND THEY'RE ATTEMPTING TO GAIN SOME COST AWARENESS OF WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE TO SERVE THEIR SITE. 
          AND ONCE THAT DEVELOPMENT PROGRESSES TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY TO, THEY'VE DECIDED WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD FOR SURE, AND THEY ARE READY TO SUBMIT A DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AT THAT POINT, WE REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS WITH THEM ON THE BENCHMARKING APPLICATION. 
          UM, AND THEN THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THE BALANCE OF THE WATER NEEDS ON THE SITE AND WHAT THE FIT FOR PURPOSE WATER SOLUTION IS FOR THAT. 
          AND FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ANY OF THAT, THERESA. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS HELPFUL. 
          AND NOW THINKING ABOUT THE KIND OF POTENTIALLY UPDATED APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, I'M SURE YOU HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE, UM, BROUGHT UP ANYWAY, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE APPLICANT WHO COMES IN AT 84 MILLION 999 9 9 9 9 9, WHATEVER, UH, GALLONS PER YEAR OF USAGE? YEAH, WELL THEY, THEY WOULD STILL DO A WATER BENCHMARKING, UM, PROCESS IF THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, WHICH IS BASED ON, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION, BUT, UM, WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, REVIEW THOSE APPLICATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WATER IS USED FOR, WHAT THE, WHAT THE WATER NEEDS ARE, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WOULD BE BEING SERVED. 
          JUST A QUICK, QUICK CLARIFICATION. 
          ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS SUBMITTING A SITE PLAN HAVE TO SUBMIT A WATER BENCHMARKING APPLICATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, IS THE TRIGGER JUST GONNA BE A HARD TRIGGER WHERE IT'S JUST YES OR NO, THEY'RE 80, IT'S 85 MILLION AND ABOVE, OR IT'S UNDER 85 MILLION AND THEY'RE DIVERTED INTO TWO SEPARATE LANES OF THIS PROCESS? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME ISSUES WITH ARBITRARINESS IN TERMS OF HOW YOU PROCESS THIS. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS THE, 
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THIS IS THE CHALLENGE OF, OF SETTING, UM, THRESHOLDS, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME CHALLENGE WE FACED WHEN WE ESTABLISHED GO PURPLE AND WE SAID, IF YOU'RE LARGER THAN 250,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU HAVE THESE REQUIREMENTS AND WE SHARE THOSE CONCERNS THAT FOLKS WILL, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, ADJUST THEIR, THEIR PLANS IN ORDER TO FALL UNDER THOSE THRESHOLDS. 
          UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A THRESHOLD. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO BE REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT THAT THRESHOLD IS. 
          YEAH, I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          AND I'LL JUST OFFER MY FEEDBACK HERE, UM, ON THAT, TO ME, THAT WOULD PREPON IT TOWARDS A LOWER, HAVING THE LOWER THRESHOLD TO BE ON THE SAFER SIDE, UM, SO THAT YOU WOULD CAPTURE MORE PEOPLE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, THAT COULDN'T JUST GET UNDER THE EIGHT. 
          IF WE THINK 85 MILLION IS THE RIGHT NUMBER, THEN WE NEED TO SET THAT THRESHOLD A LITTLE BIT LOWER SO THAT WE CAPTURE ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO COULD POTENTIALLY BE USING 85 MILLION. 
          I'M NOT SAYING 85 MILLION IS THE RIGHT NUMBER, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S FEEDBACK ON THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN ABOUT, AGAIN, ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, I BELIEVE MAYBE EMILY, YOU SAID THIS, AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT WASN'T YOU, BUT, UM, THE THINKING RIGHT NOW IS THAT IF THE WATER CONSERVATION PLANS THAT THESE HIGH IMPACT USERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT, IF THAT PLAN DOESN'T MEET AUSTIN WATERED STANDARDS YET TO BE DEVELOPED STANDARDS, UH, THE APPLICATION WOULD GO TO COUNCIL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK, OH, MARISA MAY ANSWER. 
          YEAH, MARISA SPOKE TO THAT. 
          I'LL LET HER ANSWER IT. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          SURE. 
          THAT'S THE CURRENT THINKING. 
          AND LET ME JUST CAVEAT YOU AT THIS, JUST SAYING THESE ARE ALL OF OUR DRAFT CONCEPTS. 
          YES. 
          WE WANTED TO GET OUT EARLY AND SHARE THESE CONCEPTS FOR FEEDBACK. 
          SO IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE THESE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THESE CONCEPTS. 
          AND WE WANNA CONTINUE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO PUT A QUICK PLUG IN THERE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE POINT OF GETTING THIS OUT EARLY. 
          BUT THE INITIAL THOUGHT IS THAT YES, WE WOULD, UM, REQUIRE THE SUBMISSION OF WATER CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          WE'D SET, YOU KNOW, WHAT REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT HAS TO BE INCLUDED, UM, AND, UH, HOW A A DEVELOPMENT WOULD SET GOALS, WATER USE GOALS FIVE AND 10 FOR THE FIVE AND 10 YEARS. 
          AND THEN IF THAT WATER CONSERVATION PLAN DIDN'T, UM, MEET AUSTIN WATER'S STANDARDS, THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT ADVANCE THAT, UM, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          SO THAT WOULD HOLD UP THEIR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL, UM, FOR COUNCIL'S REVIEW AND APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I THINK THE, A WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS CONCEPT IS WE HAVE, AS A CITY, WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT RULES AROUND WHAT'S, WHAT, WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR WHAT A DEVELOPMENT DOES. 
          A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL RULES, A LOT OF, UM, JUST GENERAL, UH, STANDARDS THAT WE EXPECT DEVELOPMENT TO COMPLY WITH. 
          AND WHEN THEY DO MEET OUR RULES, THEN THEY, THEN WE ARE ABLE TO ADVANCE THEM ON AN, ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE, A STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. 
          IF THEY WANT A VARIANCE FROM THAT RULE, THEN THAT GENERALLY GETS ESCALATED TO COUNCIL. 
          AND SO THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO, TO USE THAT SAME CONCEPT. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, AS MARISA SAID, THESE ARE, THESE ARE DRAFT IDEAS, SO WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          YEAH. 
          UNDERSTAND THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          UM, AND IN THIS DRAFT PROCESS, UH, AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE IT LAID OUT, IS THERE, UM, AND, AND AGAIN, ASSUMING THAT THE CO THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN DOES MEET AUSTIN WATER STANDARD AND CAN BE PROCESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY, DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO COUNCIL AT ANY POINT IN THE PROCESS, IS THERE A PUBLIC NOTICE OR NOTIFICATION THAT THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IS BEING PROCESSED, WHAT THE VOLUME OF WATER REQUESTED IS ANYTHING ABOUT THE SER APPLICATION OR WATER CONSERVATION PLAN? DOES ANY OF THAT GET ANY SORT OF PUBLIC NOTIFICATION IN THIS PROCESS? I THINK WE COULD SAY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY CONSIDERING AND WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON WHAT YOUR INPUT WOULD BE. 
          COOL. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE, I THINK I'VE SUBMITTED MY, UH, SURVEY, SO GREAT. 
          UH, YOU'LL HAVE MY FEEDBACK THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, MY, MY FEEDBACK PREDICTABLY IS TO, UH, ANY, ANY APPLICATION WE GET THAT'S AT THE THRESHOLD VOLUME OR UM, ANYWHERE NEAR IT, I THINK, UH, SHOULD GET SOME KIND OF PUBLIC REVIEW. 
          UM, EVEN IF WE DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE QUOTE UNQUOTE APPROVED BY, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER 
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OR ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, I THINK THOSE COMMISSIONS SHOULD SEE, THE APPLICATIONS SHOULD SEE MAYBE NOT THE APPLICATION. 
          THEY SHOULD SEE THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN, WHATEVER IS MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THEM TO SEE AND REVIEW, UM, THAT THE PUBLIC CAN PROVIDE INPUT. 
          UH, AND THEN THE COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL WORD. 
          THAT'S MY, UH, TAKE. 
          I THINK IT SHOULD BE LIKE IT IS IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, UH, FOR ANY OF THESE LARGE VOLUME WATER USERS. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S BEATING A DEAD HORSE A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN OVER THAT MANY TIMES. 
          BUT THAT IS MY FEEDBACK AND I THINK I'LL, I'LL STOP. 
          THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS PAUL. 
          UM, MADELINE, YOU'RE UP NEXT IN THE QUEUE. 
          HI. 
          UM, AS FAR AS SEMICONDUCTOR AND DATA CENTERS, I'VE READ THAT THEY WILL SOMETIMES USE P-F-O-A-S CHEMICALS TO ASSIST IN THE, THE COOLING, IMPROVE THE COOLING ABILITIES. 
          AND I KNOW WHEN AUSTIN WATER TESTED OUR DRINKING WATER FOR THOSE, WE DIDN'T TURN  TESTED  THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN KEEP OUR, OUR DRINKING WATER SAFE AND EVERYTHING, IF THOSE THINGS MIGHT BE USED. 
          AND ARE YOU GUYS ABLE TO KNOW IF THOSE WILL BE USED WHEN A FACILITY'S COMING ON? I THINK I CAUGHT MOST OF THAT AND WE, UM, IT WAS BRINGING UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. 
          IT WAS, UM, AND, AND IT WAS AROUND WASTEWATER DISCHARGES AND CONSTITUENTS AND WASTEWATER DISCHARGES, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR COOLING FOR DATA CENTERS OR OTHER SIMILAR, UM, TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE HAVE A, UM, A PRETTY STRONG PRETREATMENT COMPLIANCE PROGRAM ALREADY THAT, UM, HELPS US TO MONITOR DISCHARGES FROM INDUSTRIAL TYPES OF FACILITIES BACK TO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE WOULD BE BUILDING ON THAT, UM, PRETREATMENT COMPLIANCE PROGRAM AND REQUIRING INFORMATION ABOUT THE WASTEWATER THAT IS, UM, PLANNED TO BE DISCHARGED FROM THE SITE IN TERMS OF VOLUME AND, AND WE'RE CONSIDERING, UM, HOW TO BEST UNDERSTAND AND MONITOR, UM, THE POTENTIAL CONSTITUENTS OF THAT WASTEWATER. 
          THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR RADAR. 
          UM, AND THAT WE WILL WANT TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, STRENGTHENING IN OUR, IN OUR FRAMEWORK, UM, JUST KIND OF THOSE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR, OUR TOOL BELT TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT AND POTENTIALLY REQUIRE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT BEFORE IT'S DISCHARGED INTO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM. 
          IS THAT INCLUDE THE PFAS? BECAUSE I, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT STRICTLY REQUIRED BY LIKE THE EPA YET UNTIL I THINK 2027. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF THE, THE CITY IS LOOKING AT THE REGULATORY SIDE YET FOR THAT, OR I THINK THAT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A, UM, A FULLY DEVELOPED FRAMEWORK YET, BUT THAT IS THE FEEDBACK FOR US TO CONSIDER AND HOW WE WOULD POTENTIALLY ADDRESS THAT. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THAT COMMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANKS MADELINE. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WANNA HAVE FEEDBACK ON THIS? SARAH? WAIT, DID SOMEBODY ELSE YOU'RE POINTING BACK BEHIND ME. 
          OH NO, I WAS RAISING, OH, OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          . 
          I WAS MISREADING CUES UP HERE. 
          OKAY, SARAH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATED, UH, JENNIFER WALKER BRINGING UP THE AFFORDABILITY COMMENT. 
          PERSONALLY, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE ENTIRE REASON WHY, UM, MYSELF AND WELL WHY I JOINED OTHER MEMBERS IN CREATING THAT WORKING GROUP AND DEVELOPING RECOMMENDATIONS ON LARGE WATER USERS WAS CONCERN FOR AFFORDABILITY, FOR, UM, ESSENTIALLY RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. 
          WE SAW OUR LARGEST WATER USERS, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASING WATER USE YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          LIKE TESLA'S A COMPANY THAT'S BEEN RAMPING UP IN AUSTIN, BUT TO GO UP TO 500 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR IN FIVE YEARS WITH NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT, WHERE THE END IS IN SIGHT FOR THAT. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING WITH THEIR WATER USE. 
          WE SEE ADDITIONAL ADVANCED MANUFACTURING MOVING TO AUSTIN. 
          WE SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL WITH AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM LOOKING TO BRING ADDITIONAL MANUFACTURING AND DATA CENTERS AND OTHER THINGS TO AUSTIN. 
          THAT'S ALL FOR ME, A CONCERN ABOUT HOW MUCH POTABLE WATER WE'RE GOING TO NEED IN THE FUTURE AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND 
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HOW THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT OUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS THERE THE LCRA PAYMENT TRIGGER ALL OF OUR DIVERSIFIED WATER SUPPLIES, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THIS TASK FORCE TO BE HERE, THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK IN THE PLAN, EVERY STRATEGY THAT'S NOT WATER CONSERVATION IS HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER ACRE FOOT. 
          SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, JENNIFER, AND I HOPE THAT'S NOT GETTING LOST IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          UM, I THINK, AND I'VE TRIED TO MAKE THIS POINT TO OUR CURRENT CITY COUNCIL. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A REALLY NICE LONG PERIOD OF RELATIVE RATE STABILITY IN AUSTIN OVER THE PAST DECADE OR MORE WHERE WE'VE HAD INCREMENTAL INCREASES, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN SPENDING A IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF MONEY ON DIVERSIFICATION OF WATER SOURCES UNTIL NOW. 
          AND SO IT'S THE LCRA TRIGGER AND IT'S THE NEW SOURCES THAT ARE, UM, WHERE THE COSTS GET REALLY IMMENSE REALLY FAST. 
          AND THAT WILL HIT OUR, OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS. 
          SO, UM, AND AGAIN, AS WE ALL KNOW, WATER CONSERVATION IS THE MOST AFFORDABLE STRATEGY THERE IS, UM, ON THE SPECIFIC, UH, ITEMS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I DID WANNA REMIND YOU GUYS THAT, UM, IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PASSED BY THE TASK FORCE TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 9TH, UM, THE, I BELIEVE IT'S RECOMMENDATION ONE, UH, REQUIRE CLOSED LOOP COOLING FOR DATA CENTERS. 
          SO, AND THERE'S, IF YOU LOOK IN THAT, UM, DOCUMENT, WHICH IS ON OUR MEETINGS WEBPAGE FROM JUNE 9TH, IS THE CLEAN DOCUMENT. 
          THERE'S A BUNCH OF RESEARCH BACKING THAT UP. 
          THAT RECOMMENDATION ACTUALLY HAS LIKE TWO PARALLEL THINGS WHICH ARE NOT NECESSARILY LINEAR, BUT IT SAYS TO ALSO REQUIRE NON POTABLE WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, RECYCLED AND OR RAINWATER FOR ALL ASPECTS OF WATER USE IN DATA CENTERS. 
          AND THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING STRAIGHT OUT OF A, UM, ALMOST STRAIGHT OUT OF A, A MEMO THAT AUSTIN WATER IN AUSTIN ELECTRIC, WHAT DO WE CALL IT? AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, WROTE TO THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. 
          AND SO, I MEAN, THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME STRAIGHT FROM YOU GUYS THAT WE ADOPTED INTO THESE. 
          SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THIS BODY HAS MADE A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION ON CLOSED LOOP DATING CENTERS. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT IS STAKEHOLDER INPUT. 
          YOU HAVE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE, AND PLEASE REVISIT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO SEE HOW THEY FIT IN TO THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL. 
          'CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, WAS ALL CREATED BASED ON RESEARCH DATA FROM AUSTIN WATER AND RESEARCH THAT THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS DID. 
          SO I DO THINK YOU HAVE A, A BIG CHUNK OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT RIGHT THERE DESPITE NOT HAVING, UM, A MORE FORMAL DISCUSSION PLANNED FOR THIS GROUP. 
          UM, SO ON THAT NOTE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS HOPING WE WERE GONNA DO IN THIS GROUP, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'LL BE A TIME, WAS TO TALK, UH, MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THE THRESHOLD FOR LARGE VOLUME USERS. 
          SO WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY AUSTIN WATER 85 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR IS THE EXISTING THRESHOLD. 
          UM, AND I HAD A, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN IDEAL, I THINK, OR AT LEAST INTERESTING WOULD'VE BEEN IF WE HAD BEEN PRESENTED WITH SOME DATA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE, WHAT, WHAT CUSTOMERS DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY THAT USE THAT MUCH WATER BASED ON LIKE SOME OF THE NEW INDUSTRIES THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN ADVANCED ROBOTICS MANUFACTURING FACILITY COMING. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WATER THEY'RE GONNA USE, BUT LIKE NEW INDUSTRIES DATA, WHAT DO WE THI WHAT DO WE EXPECT IN THE FUTURE WATER USED TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR WATER USES? LIKE, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO EVALUATE THE 85 MILLION GALLONS AND GIVE YOU ANY HELPFUL INPUT WITHOUT SOME DATA OR INFORMATION. 
          HOW LONG HAS THE LARGE VOLUME THRESHOLD BEEN 85 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR? WHY WAS IT THAT NUMBER? LIKE WHAT WAS THE JUSTIFICATION? I'M SURE THERE WAS SOME GREAT RESEARCH DONE ON THAT WHEN THAT NUMBER WAS PICKED. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT KIND OF THING WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GIVE, UM, INPUT. 
          'CAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT INFORMATION WE CAN USE TO GIVE YOU AND, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD THAT HAVE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA AND UM, CAN DO PROJECTIONS LIKE ROBERT WAS STATING EARLIER. 
          UH, SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE IT IS ON THAT NUMBER IS LIKE, WITHOUT SEEING ANYTHING. 
          I DON'T 
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KNOW HOW TO GIVE INPUT JENNIFER SUGGESTION AROUND THAT. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I WAS GONNA WAIT TILL THE END HERE, BUT, BUT, UM, EMILY OFFERED MAYBE EVERYBODY ELSE WAS LIKE, OH NO, BUT OFFERED THAT WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER TASK FORCE MEETING IF WE DECIDE TO, UM, THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD BE GOOD TO DIG INTO. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO THAT. 
          UM, AND SO I JUST WANNA POSE THE QUESTION IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN THAT. 
          I DO THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ALONG THOSE LINES THAT MAYBE WE CAN ARTICULATE AND KIND OF HELP FRAME UP THAT, THAT DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AS THE TASK. 
          I, AGAIN, IT'S UP TO THE TASK FORCE IF WE DO THAT AND IT'S UP TO STAFF, UM, IF WE CAN PULL THAT OFF, UM, IN ADVANCE OF YOU ALL GOING WITH YOUR SET OF POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATIONS ON DECEMBER 9TH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE'D NEED TO DO IT IN NOVEMBER, SOMETIME EARLY NOVEMBER. 
          UM, DO, DO FOLKS WANNA PURSUE THAT? CAN WE PURSUE THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PURSUE AND IT'S DEPENDENT ON OTHERS BEING ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          YEP, OF COURSE. 
          UH, TO HAVE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A KEY DRIVER. 
          WELL THAT'S WHERE THE TASK FORCE, I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT FOR STAFF. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE? AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE TASK FORCE IF THEY WANNA DO THAT. 
          UM, DO, DO PEOPLE, DOES THE TASK FORCE THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ONLY MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH AND, AND THE LAST ONE GOT CANCELED FOR LACK OF A QUORUM. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THIS REALLY THOUGH. 
          WE MET IN JUNE AND PASSED THIS RESOLUTION A RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND THEN NOW IF THIS IS HAPPENING, SO DO FOLKS JUST SHOW OF HANDS, ARE THEY WILLING TO SHOW UP AND HAVE A CONVERSATION IN NOVEMBER ABOUT THIS AND THEY THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE? OR IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, CAN WE DO A SMALLER MEETING? ? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL LET'S TRY THIS FIRST AND THEN, OKAY. 
          ROBERT, ARE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND OR NO? NO, I'M . 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO. 
          , NO. 
          WILL WE, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE TRY TO, CAN PEOPLE MEET IN NOVEMBER? DO THEY WANNA MEET? OF COURSE. 
          DATE? UM, CONTINGENT OF COURSE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND TO DIG INTO THIS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT AND TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION BROUGHT. 
          JUST HAD A BIG TRIP CANCELED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS WORKING ON. 
          SO IN NOVEMBER. 
          OH, PERFECT. 
          NICE FREE TIME IN NOVEMBER NOW. 
          NICE. 
          WE HAVE TO MOVE THE DECEMBER MEETING EARLIER IF WE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TWO MEETINGS. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IN BEFORE DECEMBER 9TH, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN ONE DAY WE COULD THEORETICALLY MOVE THE YEAH, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, WE HAVE SO FEW MEETINGS. 
          IT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE CANCELING THAT, MOVING IT UP. 
          WE'LL HAVE OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA TOO. 
          YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS JUST SUPER, WE'RE DESPERATE. 
          YEAH, NO, NO, NO. 
          I, I GET IT. 
          I GET IT. 
          I THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE MOVING UP A WEEK, BUT THEN THAT DOESN'T GIVE 'EM A LOT OF TIME ALSO TO THINK ABOUT INCORPORATING, UM, OUR AMAZING FEEDBACK. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL BE PREPARING MATERIALS AND GETTING THEM REVIEWED INTERNALLY. 
          SO, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE DECEMBER 9TH IS PROBABLY NOT SUFFICIENT TIME BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT AND WITHIN THE CITY, UM, TO GET THINGS REVIEWED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK I SAW, UM, MADELINE AND LEAH RAISE THEIR HANDS. 
          OTHER FOLKS, IT DEPENDS. 
          IT DEPENDS ON WHAT, WHAT TIME IN NOVEMBER. 
          NOVEMBER REALLY IS PACKED OF COURSE. 
          BUT IF YOU GUYS CAN SEND SOME, SOME DATES IN NOVEMBER, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY, UH, PACKED BEFORE THE END OF, IF YOU CAN BE HERE, YOU'RE WILLING TO DO IT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          YES. 
          I'M WILLING TO DO IT IF, IF I, IF I'M AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          BEAUTIFUL. 
          SAME, SAME, SAME HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A, A CONSENSUS HERE OF LET'S TRY TO CREATE SOME SPACE AND TIME TO HAVE A DEEPER DISCUSSION ON THIS AND MAYBE HOW CAN WE BE HELPFUL IN THIS? UM, SARAH FRAMED UP SOME GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          I WAS ASKING SIMILAR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 85 MILLION THRESHOLD AND WHAT AND WHY AT THE, UM, AT THE, UH, OPEN HOUSE. 
          AND ERIC WAS VERY NICELY TRYING TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS, UM, WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE AROUND AND STUFF. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WATER USERS IN GENERAL. 
          UM, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA SAY? I DO WANNA FINISH MY LIST. 
          YEAH, YEAH, OF COURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET THAT SET UP. 
          UM, I CAN HELP HOWEVER TO HELP DO THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, CAN I, YES. 
          SORRY, CAN I JUST MENTION SOMETHING REAL QUICK? OKAY. 
          IT WOULD LIKELY BE A HELPFUL TO GET SOME COMPILATION OF QUESTIONS, UH, FROM TASKFORCE MEMBERS. 
          IF THERE'S SPECIFIC DATA THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT BY, 
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AT THE TIME WE'RE ABLE TO MEET, WE CAN REACH OUT AND SEE WHAT FORCE MEMBER AVAILABILITY WOULD BE TO TRY TO GET A QUORUM TOGETHER. 
          UM, EMILY MADE THE GREAT POINT THAT WE ARE COMPILING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'LL NEED SOME TIME TO, YOU KNOW, PUT THOSE INTO A FORMAT, GO THROUGH INTERNAL REVIEW AND THE CITY PROCESSES TO GET TO THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING. 
          AND SO HAVING SOMETHING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER IS PROBABLY BEST OF COURSE. 
          AND, UM, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO TRY TO AIM FOR, I'M GONNA SAY LIKE THE LAST WEEK IN OCTOBER OR THE FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER, UM, TO HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL TASK FORCE MEETING. 
          WE CAN SEND OUT SOME DATES, UM, TO SEE WHAT WORKS FOR FOLKS. 
          AND THEN IF WE CAN'T GET A QUORUM TOGETHER, THE LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER, THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER, I THINK I HEARD SARAH BOW MENTION WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET A SMALLER GROUP TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER APPROACH IS THAT WE STILL AIM FOR A FOLLOW-UP MEETING, BUT WITH JUST MAYBE LESS THAN A QUORUM, UM, THAT LAST WEEK OF OCTOBER OR FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER AS A, AS A BACKUP PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          UM, AND I AGREE WE CAN SOLICIT QUESTIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE. 
          UM, I WANNA, I'M REALLY, REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING THIS REUSE BRIEFING. 
          UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT. 
          AND, UM, SARAH, IF YOU WANNA FINISH YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THE LARGE VOLUME THRESHOLD WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE CURRENTLY DEFINE THAT AS POTABLE AND NON-POTABLE, OR IF THAT'S A CHANGE. 
          UM, UM, AND THEN LIKE, AS A COMMENT, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK THERE'S A, AN APPROACH TO THIS THAT IS SEEKING TO INCENTIVIZE AND ENCOURAGE NON POTABLE WATER USE FOR THESE INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE. 
          AND ONE OF THE INCENTIVES THE CITY CAN OFFER IS TO SPEED UP PROCESSES SO THAT WE CREATE A STREAMLINED AND QUICK PROCESS FOR USING YOUR OWN ONSITE RECYCLED WATER OR USING OUR CENTRALIZED PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA GET INTO A WHOLE REUSE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN OFFER TO NEW USERS WHERE THEY, THE, THERE IS A LONGER AND MORE EXTENSIVE PROCESS FOR OUR VERY PRECIOUS AND VERY EXPENSIVE POTABLE WATER, BUT WE SEEK TO STREAMLINE AND MAKE MUCH MORE QUICKLY THEIR ABILITY TO GET UP AND GET WORKING IF THEY CAN GET BELOW A THRESHOLD AND USE NON POTABLE WATER EXTENSIVELY. 
          SO JUST IF THERE'S WAYS THAT, THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT CONCEPT, JUST TAKING A FRESH LOOK AT THAT IS ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS WE CAN OFFER THAT DOESN'T COST US AS MUCH MONEY, BUT WE CAN OFFER A STREAMLINED PROCESS. 
          AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON THING THE CITY DOES IN THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S A THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOREVER, BUT LIKE THAT'S WHAT KIND OF ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS WE CAN OFFER BECAUSE I THINK, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS LIKE, THEY'RE NOT PEAKING, RIGHT? THEY'RE USING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WATER ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THE MORE WE CAN GET THEM ON NON-POTABLE ALL THE TIME, THEN WHEN WE'RE IN DROUGHT AND THE REST OF US ARE HAVING TO CUT BACK SEVERELY, THEY CAN KEEP WORKING. 
          THEY CAN KEEP THEIR ECONOMIC ACTIVITY GOING, THEY CAN KEEP THEIR JOBS GOING. 
          LIKE THAT TO ME IS ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, SO JUST LIKE THINKING ABOUT IF THAT CONCEPT IS PLAYING OUT AND HOW THIS IS CURRENTLY BEING SET UP, UH, ONE OTHER SPECIFIC COMMENT IS ON THE WATER CONSERVATION PLANS THAT PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          THIS FIRST BULLET SAYS THAT EACH PLAN WOULD SHOW HOW EFFICIENT EFFICIENCY MEASURES IN CONSERVATION TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS LOWER THE PROJECT'S WATER DEMAND, INCLUDING ALTERNATIVE COOLING SYSTEMS. AND EVERY TIME I READ THAT, I THINK LOWER ITS WATER DEMAND FROM WHAT, LIKE WHAT ARE THEY SHOWING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOWERING THEIR WATER DEMAND FROM A HIGH WATER DEMAND. 
          LIKE HOW ARE THEY GONNA SHOW THAT, RIGHT? AND WHAT IS THE STANDARD? BECAUSE THE STANDARD SHOULD BE THE LOWEST POSSIBLE WATER DEMAND. 
          LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE SEEKING FROM THEM. 
          SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS GONNA PLAY OUT, BUT I I CONSIDERING THAT LIKE LOWERING THE PROJECT'S WATER DEMAND, BUT FROM WHAT, WHAT STANDARD ARE THEY APPLYING TO THAT? UM, AND THEN ALSO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL, UH, PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SORT OF TRANSPARENCY OR REVIEW 
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OF LARGE VOLUME USER APPLICATIONS AND THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A SPECIFIC PARAGRAPH IN THE ITEM FROM COUNCIL THAT SAYS THIS PROCESS SHOULD ALSO EXAMINE AND MAKE, OH, SORRY. 
          I THINK IT'S, UM, YEAH. 
          SO THE CITY MANAGER IS DIRECTED TO PROPOSE A STAKEHOLDER INPUT PROCESS TO INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT OF STANDARDS FOR LARGE VOLUME USER CONSERVATION PLANS AND RELATED POLICY PROPOSALS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THE OPEN HOUSE WAS THE START OF THAT PROCEDURE. 
          BUT THE SECOND SENTENCE IS, THIS PROCESS SHOULD ALSO EXAMINE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO PROVIDE BRIEFINGS TO COUNSEL OR OTHER BODIES AS APPROPRIATE ON UPCOMING LARGE VOLUME USER APPLICATIONS IN A TIMELY AND TRANSPARENT WAY. 
          SO HIS COMMENT WAS ABOUT THAT SENTENCE AND IT'S LIKE SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC BOARD ON THAT, BUT IN, YOU KNOW, THIS NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEARLY ASKING PEOPLE ABOUT. 
          'CAUSE IT WAS CALLED OUT IN THE RESOLUTION AS WANTING STAKEHOLDER INPUT. 
          UM, AND I WOULD AGAIN REFER YOU TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THIS TASK FORCE ALREADY PASSED, WHICH ALSO CLEARLY DISCUSS THAT THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. 
          WE RECOMMENDED THAT SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS FOR POTABLE WATER OVER SOME THRESHOLD BE REVIEWED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE CONCEPT BEING THAT NON-POTABLE WATER GETS A MUCH FASTER REVIEW AND IF THEY CAN USE NON-POTABLE TO GET THEIR THRESHOLD DOWN, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT BIG COUNCIL PROCESS. 
          SO JUST SAYING THERE IS A, A, AN EXISTING RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. 
          YOU COULD ALSO INCORPORATE A STAKEHOLDER INPUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS HERE. 
          AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE GOTTEN 11 IN WRITING SO FAR, AND SOME ON THE WEBSITE AND STUFF TOO. 
          UM, 23 IF MY MATH IS CORRECT. 
          UM, BUT THAT YOU'RE GETTING THESE COMMENTS TOO FROM FOLKS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE TAKING NOTES. 
          I'M SAY EMILY WRITING AND WE'LL, WE'LL ALSO HAVE, UH, REFER TO THE RECORDING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THIS AS, UM, PUBLIC INPUT. 
          OKAY. 
          TASK FORCE INPUT. 
          AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING, UM, WELL JUST LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN BE THE MOST HELPFUL IN GETTING THIS MEETING PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ON, ON THINGS THAT WE WANNA DISCUSS. 
          AND I THINK WE SHALL MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          [4. Staff briefing regarding onsite reuse, decentralized reclaimed, and centralized reclaimed. Presentation by Joe Smith, Supervising Engineer; Kane Wei, Supervising Engineer; Margaret Lake, Supervising Engineer; Katherine Jashinski, Supervising Engineer, Austin Water.]
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STAFF BRIEFING ON ONSITE REUSE TO CENTRALIZED DECENTRALIZED RECLAIMED. 
          WE'VE GOT A SLOW DOWN WHEN YOU SAY ALL THIS AND CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED FROM LOTS OF OUR FOLKS HERE. 
          UM, I'M GONNA JUST NAME THAT WE MIGHT NOT, THAT WE'RE RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, SO WE GOT 45 MINUTES. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE REUSE PRESENTATION IS. 
          KEVIN, YOU MIGHT BE GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK ON THIS ONE. 
           BE BACK IN DECEMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY THESE THINGS HAPPEN, BUT, UM, HE'D BE HERE ANYWAY, SO  YEAH. 
          CAN'T, CAN'T MISS IT. 
          TOO MUCH FUN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND APOLOGIES. 
          UM, MAYBE THIS WILL GO SUPER FAST, JU OKAY. 
          I CAN'T PREDICT THESE THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO Y'ALL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AM I OPENING THIS ONE? OKAY. 
          TAKE. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM AT THE END THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO RIGHT THAT CALENDAR. 
          'CAUSE I THINK I, I KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          YES. 
          HELLO, I'M CATHERINE DINKY. 
          I'M A SUPERVISING ENGINEER FOR THE WATER REUSE PROGRAMS WITHIN THE UTILITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          WE'LL BE GIVING THIS BRIEFING ON, UM, KIND OF OUR REUSE RELATED ITEMS WITHIN THE WATER FORWARD PLAN. 
          MARGARET AND MYSELF, I'M MARGARET LAKE, SUPERVISING ENGINEER FOR THE WATER AND RECLAIM TEAM WITHIN SYSTEMS PLANNING. 
          DID I DO IT? YOU DID IT. 
          IF YOU, OKAY, THANKS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE ONSITE REUSE, UH, PORTION. 
          UM, BASICALLY WE'LL BE GIVING A KIND OF A TWO YEAR LOOK BACK ON THE GO PURPLE PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU'LL RECALL, IT WAS ADOPTED MARCH 7TH, 2024. 
          UM, AND SO THE DATA THAT WE'RE SHOWING IS THE PERIOD OF APRIL WHEN IT WENT INTO EFFECT OF 2024 THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, 2026. 
          INCLUDED CODE CHANGES FOR ONSITE WATER REUSE AND RECLAIMED WATER CONNECTIONS, THE AFFORDABILITY STRATEGIES FOR REUSE PROJECTS, UM, INCENTIVES, HELPING TO PAY FOR EXPEDITED PLAN REVIEW, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT CHARGE, UM, THAT GOES ON EVERYONE'S BILL TO HELP FUND, 
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UM, UH, INCREASED, UH, RECLAIMED WATER OR EXPANSION OF THE RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM. 
          AND ALSO, UM, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND FOR THESE AFFORDABILITY STRATEGIES. 
          , , I DON'T THINK THIS IS WORKING VERY WELL. 
          IT'S TOO FAR. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I'LL JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE, BUT OKAY. 
          WE ARE GONNA GET VERY FAST, RIGHT? . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS SLIDE IS SLOW SHOWING THE, UM, SITE PLAN APPROVALS. 
          SO THAT IS, WE'VE MENTIONED THAT'S A SITE KIND OF AFTER SER SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          UM, DURING THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, THERE WERE 56 PROJECTS THAT CAME IN THAT WERE FLAGGED FOR LIKE HAVING TO MEET THE GO PURPLE REQUIREMENTS. 
          20 OF THOSE WERE RECLAIMED WATER PROJECTS. 
          UH, 36 WERE, UM, ONSITE WATER REUSE PROJECTS. 
          BUT OF THOSE 36, UM, IF Y'ALL RECALL, IF YOU HAVE 50% ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU'RE EXEMPT. 
          SO SEVEN OF THOSE PROJECT SE SEVEN OF THOSE 36 WERE EXEMPT FOREHEAD VESTED RIGHTS DETERMINATION SAYING THEY, THEY ACTUALLY STARTED THEIR PROJECT BEFORE THE CODE WENT TO EFFECT. 
          AND THEN FIVE OPTED TO PAY THE FEE IN LIEU OF INSTALLING THE ONSITE REUSE SYSTEM. 
          IF YOU A CALL, YOU STILL HAVE TO DUAL PLUM YOUR BUILDING AND MAKE IT READY TO ACCEPT RECLAIMED WATER, BUT THEN YOU PAY THE FEE IN LIEU OF AND, UM, OF ACTUALLY CONNECTING THE MAIN TIER PROJECT. 
          SO IF YOU BREAK THAT OUT, ON AVERAGE THERE WERE 10 RECLAIMED WATER PROJECTS AND, AND 10 ACTUAL PROJECTS IMPLEMENTING ONSITE REUSE APPROVED PER YEAR AT THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STAGE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING OUR INCENTIVE ACTIVITY. 
          UM, I'LL START KIND OF ON THE LEFT SIDE. 
          WE HAVE CERTAIN, UH, PRO, UM, INCENTIVES FOR RECLAIMED WATER PROJECTS AND OTHERS FOR ONSITE WATER REUSE PROJECTS. 
          THE REBATE FOR RECLAIMED MAIN EXTENSION, SO ANYONE EXTENDING MORE THAN 250 FEET OF MAINE TO THEIR, UH, PROPERTY CAN GET A REBATE FOR A PORTION OF THE COST OF EXTENDING THE MAIN. 
          WE HAD ZERO APPLICATIONS. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE APPROVED PROJECTS THAT ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, OVER A THOUSAND FEET, LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS DOING OVER A THOUSAND FEET OF MAIN EXTENSION, THEY QUALIFY FOR THAT REBATE AND COULD APPLY AT ANY TIME FOR IT. 
          UM, THEY'RE JUST, I THINK NOT AT THE STAGE WHERE THEY'RE READY TO DO THAT. 
          THEY'RE STILL KIND OF DESIGNING THEIR PROJECTS. 
          UM, THE REBATES FOR ONSITE WATER REUSE SYSTEMS, THAT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT CODE REQUIRES YOU TO INSTALL EXPEDITED BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW REBATES. 
          SO IF YOU ARE ONE OF THESE LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UM, IMPLEMENTING REUSE, WE CAN PAY FOR YOUR EXPEDITED BUILDING PLAN REVIEW. 
          WE HAD TWO PROJECTS, UM, APPLY AND GET FUNDS FOR THAT NO IMPACT FEES FOR NON-POTABLE METERS. 
          THAT IS NOW A STATE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE CREDITS ON IMPACT FEES FOR WATER CONSERVATION AND REUSE. 
          AND SO THAT IS ALREADY EMBEDDED IN THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. 
          IF YOU HAVE A RECLAIMED METER OR AN ONSITE REUSE BACKUP METER, YOU ARE NOT ASSESSED IMPACT FEES FOR THAT METER. 
          AND THEN ASSISTANCE WITH THE PACE PROGRAM, THAT'S A PROPERTY ASSESSED CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAM THAT'S ACTUALLY ADMINISTERED BY THE TRAVIS COUNTY PACE AUTHORITY. 
          BUT, UH, WE OFFER STAFF RESOURCES TO HELP FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND KIND OF DO THE WATER BALANCE FOR THAT. 
          UM, NO, UM, TAKERS ON THAT EITHER. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          CATHERINE, IS THE STATE LAW YOU MENTIONED, IS THAT THE ONE SENATOR PERRY'S LAST SESSION? YEAH. 
          SENATE BILL 14. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, BUT WOULD WE HAVE CHARGED IMPACT FEES OR LIKE, DID IT CHANGE WHAT WE WERE DOING AS A CITY FOR THESE? WE HAD ALREADY PLANNED TO GIVE AS PART OF THE GO PURPLE INCENTIVES TO GIVE CREDIT FOR REUSE MM-HMM . 
          AND SO IT WAS SORT OF FORTUITOUS THAT WE ALREADY HAD A PROCESS IN PLACE TO GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT WAS DUE. 
          AND SO, UM, AT THIS POINT THAT'S OUR, OUR, OUR, LIKE HOW WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SUPER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          REAL QUICK ON THAT AS WELL, UM, HOW MUCH IS IT IMPACT FEE GENERALLY MORE OR LESS? IT VARIES ON THE METER SIZE. 
          SO THE BIGGER THE METER, THE MORE YOU PAY IN IMPACT FEES. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE RANGE? YEAH, IT CAN BE, I MEAN, LIKE A HOUSE IS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING HOUSE, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT FOR WATER, I THINK IT'S $5,000, UH, FOR THE, FOR A, UM, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          BUT IT CAN GO UP FOR THE LARGER METERS UP TO, UM, MORE THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, FOR LARGE METERS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I THINK FOR THE, THE 10 INCH 
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REALLY LARGE METERS, IT'S LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          WOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, . 
          SO IT SCALES BASED. 
          YEAH, WE WERE GONNA, WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO WAIVE THE IMPACT FEE FOR A RECLAIMED METER AND THEN WE NOW WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT. 
          SO, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE OFFER YOU A REBATE IF YOU'RE GONNA EX IF, IF, IF YOU WANT US, IF YOU WANT US TO EXTEND THE RE WE'RE THEY LIKE, WAIT MM-HMM . 
          DO WE PAY TO EXTEND THE RECLAIM OR DO THEY PAY TO EXTEND THE RECLAIM? THEY PAY TO EXTEND THE RECLAIMED AND WE PAY A PORTION OF THAT UP TO $500,000. 
          UM, SO IT'S CAPPED, UM, GOT IT. 
          AND IT, BUT IT WILL PAY FOR, IF YOU'RE EXEMPT, AFFORDABLE, THE REBATE GOES UP TO 1.5 MILLION. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SAID WE COULD, WE WANTED, THERE WAS LIKE DIRECTION TO, FROM COUNCIL TO COMPLETELY OFFSET THOSE EXEMPT AFFORDABLE PROJECTS. 
          HOW DO WE, WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM TO RECOUP OUR COSTS FOR LIKE THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE BE RECOUPING THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES? YOU, YOU CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S BASED ON THE SORT OF CALCULATION OF RELY NOT NEEDING AS MUCH POTABLE WATER. 
          SO WHEN WE DO THE IMPACT FEE ASSESSMENT, IT'S UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT ALL OF THAT WATER IS COMING FROM THE POTABLE WATER SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WHEN IT'S NOT, THEY STILL WILL HAVE A POTABLE METER AND WILL BE ASSESSED IMPACT FEES FOR THAT METER THAT IS USING POTABLE WATER, BUT THEY'RE NOT FOR THE, UM, THE REUSE METERS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THERE, THERE AREN'T AUSTIN WATER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT ARE HAVING TO BE COVERED FROM ELSEWHERE THAT WOULD'VE NORMALLY BEEN RECOVERED THROUGH AN IMPACT FEE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
           JUST, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, , SORRY TO DERAIL THIS. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE IMPACT FEES IS TO PAY THE COST OF MM-HMM . 
          OF DOING THIS. 
          AND SO NOW THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE COST ANYMORE. 
          WHERE IS THE COST? BUT WE'RE PAYING THAT 15 CENTS FEE ON EVERYBODY'S BILL. 
          DOESN'T THAT CREATE SOME KIND OF FUND? OH, THAT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT IN WAS INTENDED FOR THOUGH. 
          REALLY THE, THE GO PURPLE COMMUNITY BENEFIT CHARGE IS INTENDED TO HELP, UM, HELP SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, REUSE IN GENERAL. 
          SO IT CAN BE USED TO HELP SUPPORT RECLAIM PROJECTS, UM, AS WELL AS REUSE INCENTIVES. 
          UM, I THINK TO, TO ANSWER THE, THE QUESTION, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE CERTAINLY ARE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENT IN, IN DEVELOPMENT COSTS RELATED TO OUR RECLAIMED SYSTEM. 
          AND, AND SO, UH, BY NOT CHARGING, UH, AN IMPACT FEE FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT BUYING IN THE SYSTEM IN THE SAME WAY THEY BUY INTO OUR POTABLE WATER SYSTEM. 
          UM, HOWEVER THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR OVERALL STRATEGY. 
          FROM A RECLAIM PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE CHARGE, UH, ROUGHLY 60%, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUMETRIC RATES FOR RECLAIMED WATER ARE ROUGHLY 60% OF OUR POTABLE WATER RATES. 
          AND SO, SO IT'S REALLY AN INCENTIVE TO GET PEOPLE TO COLLECT, RECOGNIZING THAT IF THEY HAVE TO PAY IMPACT FEES, IN EITHER CASE, THEY MIGHT BE LESS INCLINED TO, UM, IMPLEMENT A REUSE PROJECT OR A RECLAIM PROJECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          I, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I WAS JUST, SORRY, UM, FORGOT TO SAY MY NAME. 
          UH, JOSEPH GONZALEZ, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AUSTIN WATER. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, UH, YEAH, THERESA LUTZ, AUSTIN WATER. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE DO IN INCLUDE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE RECLAIMED PROJECTS IN OUR CALCULATION OF THE WATER FEE WE HAD. 
          WE HADN'T DONE THAT PRIOR TO, I THINK, THE LAST FEE UPDATE. 
          WE STARTED INCLUDING THE, BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DELIVER WATER. 
          SO, UM, SPREAD IT OUT. 
          SO THAT IMPACT, UH, FEE FOR WATER, THE POTABLE WATER, HELPS PAY FOR THOSE RECLAIMED PROJECTS AS WELL. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS SLIDE IS DRILLING INTO THE, THE ONSITE WATER REUSE PERMIT ACTIVITY. 
          AND SO, UH, THE PREVIOUS SLIDES SHOWED SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. 
          AND THIS IS SHOWING THESE PROJECTS THAT HAVE MOVED PAST THAT STAGE AND HAVE APPLIED FOR BUILDING PERMITS. 
          THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GETTING YOUR PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT YOUR ONSITE SYSTEM. 
          UM, SO 14 OF THOSE 20 HAVE LIKE MOVED FORWARD TO THE NEXT PHASE. 
          UM, AND IT'S BROKEN OUT BY YEAR. 
          THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD FIVE, UM, SYSTEMS PERMITTED. 
          THE SECOND YEAR THERE WERE NINE. 
          UM, THE ESTIMATED WATER SAVINGS HAVE VARIED, YOU, YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S, IT'S HIGHER IN THE FIRST YEAR, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE FEWER PERMITS. 
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THAT WAS, UM, ONE REALLY LARGE, UM, SYSTEM. 
          I BELIEVE IT WAS THE APPLE, UH, CAMPUS PROJECT THAT GOT PERMITTED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          UM, AND SO OVERALL, 74.1 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR OF REUSE PERMITTED. 
          UM, OUR FIRST, UH, FEE IN LIE PROJECTS CAME IN THE SECOND YEAR. 
          THERE WERE FIVE OF THOSE AND WE COLLECTED $682,000, SEVEN 20 CENTS. 
          AND THAT ALSO GOES INTO THAT SAME GO PURPLE FUND WHERE WE'RE BUILDING MORE RECLAIMED WATER MAINS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY WE HAVE HAD, UM, TWO SYSTEMS. UM, AND ACTUALLY NOW THAT THE, I THINK THE APPLE PROJECT WILL BE GETTING THEIR FIRST KIND OF MONTHLY OPERATIONAL REPORTS. 
          SO THREE SYSTEMS HAVE MOVED FROM THE, UM, JUST DESIGN CONSTRUCTION PHASE INTO FULLY OPERATIONAL. 
          AND SO NOW THEY REQUIRE, UM, OPERATORS TO OPERATE THOSE SYSTEMS AND SUBMIT REPORTS TO US ON THE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE. 
          UM, AND SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, TO ALIGN WITH THAT KIND OF PHASE OF THE PROGRAM, WE HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED AN ONM TRAINING MANUAL FOR THE SYSTEMS FOR THESE OPERATORS OF THESE SYSTEMS. THAT WAS PUBLISHED DECEMBER, 2020 FIFTH. 
          UH, OUR CERTIFICATE EXAM, UH, WHICH IS BEING DEVELOPED BY WATER PROFESSIONALS INTERNATIONAL AND WE'RE KIND OF TIED TO THEIR SCHEDULE AND HOW THEY DEVELOP EXAMS. IT'S NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT EARLY 2027, UM, WHEN THAT WILL BE COMPLETED. 
          UH, BUT WE DID HOLD A, A WORKSHOP HERE IN JUNE, UM, WITH SOME LOCAL TRADE ORGANIZATIONS, PLUMBERS, BUILDING FACILITY MANAGERS, ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITY INDUSTRY GROUPS, UM, TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. 
          WE'RE DEVELOPING, UM, A COURSE, A TRAINING COURSE TO TAKE THAT MATERIAL FROM THE O AND M MANUAL THAT WE DEVELOPED AND TURN IT INTO A MORE FORMAL, UH, INSTRUCTION SO THAT THESE OPERATORS CAN BOTH TAKE THE EXAM, GET THEIR CERTIFICATE, AND HAVE SOME SORT OF MORE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, AUSTIN COMMUNITY COLLEGE HAS ONE OF OUR FULLY OPERATIONAL SYSTEM, SO THEY'LL GET TO LOOK AT THIS, UM, SYSTEM, SEE THE KIND OF THE COMPONENTS THAT IT ENTAILS, UM, AND GET MORE OF THAT HANDS-ON TRAINING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE'VE PARTNERED WITH CAPITAL AREA WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. 
          THEY HAVE AN EXISTING, UH, FUNDING PROGRAM FOR UPSKILLING TRADES. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ALREADY PEOPLE WHO ARE PLUMBERS ON YOUR STAFF AND YOU'RE A COMPANY WHO WANTS TO UPSKILL THEIR EMPLOYEES TO GET THIS ADDITIONAL TRAINING, UM, THEY CAN GET FUNDING FOR THE COURSE THROUGH, UH, WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, AND SO THIS, UH, SLIDE IS A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED, BUT WE'RE NOW TARGETING, UM, THE, UH, EARLY 2027 TO GET THAT COURSE READY FOR THESE OPERATIONS. 
          I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE SLIDE. 
          UM, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO MENTION ANOTHER VERY LARGE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW FOR A WHILE. 
          THEY'RE AT 90% DESIGN, UM, AND THEY ARE ESTIMATED TO SAVE 280 MILLION GALLONS PER YEAR ONCE THIS WASTEWATER MINING PROJECT IS OPERATIONAL. 
          SO THEY'LL BE EXTRACTING WASTEWATER FROM OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM, TREATING IT IN A PLANT THAT THEY OWN AND OPERATE AND HAVE A PERMIT FROM TC Q4, AND THEY'LL BE UP OFFSETTING THE POTABLE WATER USE. 
          THEY'RE ALREADY USING RECLAIMED WATER IN THEIR, UM, UH, UTILITIES, COOLING TOWERS, UM, ALL THE EVAPORATIVE COOLING. 
          UM, AND THEY BLEND IT WITH POTABLE WATER. 
          SO THIS NEW REUSE STREAM WILL BE OFFSETTING THAT POTABLE WATER. 
          SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE USING ANY DRINKING WATER IN THEIR COOLING SYSTEMS. UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, THERE'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A OPEN LOOP EVAPORATIVE COOLING SYSTEM. 
          YEAH, IT'S MY PERSONAL FAVORITE ONE 'CAUSE I WALKED BY IT ALL THE TIME WHEN I WENT TO THE GEOLOGY BUILDING THERE IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          SO . 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SO YEAH. 
          I'M MARGARET LAKE, SUPERVISING ENGINEER FOR THE WATER AND RECLAIM TEAM WITHIN SYSTEMS PLANNING. 
          I AM GIVING, FILLING IN FOR A COUPLE STAFF MEMBERS. 
          SO JOE SMITH, IT LEADS THE WASTEWATER TEAM, UM, AND OVERSEES THE DECENTRALIZED RECLAIM, UH, PLANNING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO BACKGROUND AND TERMS. SO DECENTRALIZED RECLAIM WATER IS REFERRING TO THE REUSE OF WASTEWATER TREATED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE. 
          UM, SO IT'S SEPARATE FROM AUSTIN'S CENTRALIZED WASTEWATER AND RECLAIM SYSTEM, UM, AT THE TWO LARGER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. 
          THIS IS LOOKING AT THE SMALLER, UH, TREATMENT PLANTS, UH, MORE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. 
          UM, SO IT'S THE REUSE OF TREATED WATER VIA A DUAL PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM, WHICH COULD SUPPLY IRRIGATION, LANDSCAPING, TOILET FLUSHING AND 
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COOLING DEMANDS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, RELATED TO THE WATER 4 24. 
          THIS IS THE FIVE-YEAR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS RELATED TO DECENTRALIZED RECLAIM. 
          UM, ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE A TABLE SHOWING THE YIELD TARGETS. 
          UM, THE DECENTRALIZED RECLAIM, UH, HAS SMALLER YIELD TARGETS THAN THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM. 
          UM, AND OUR FIVE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS, UM, THAT WERE, ARE, HAVE ONGOING AND ARE WORKING ON, UH, COLLABORATING WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH THE SURFACE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST PROCESS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES AND APPROPRIATE COST PARTICIPATION BY AUSTIN WATER. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR GROUP DOES ONGOING. 
          UM, COMPLETE THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM LONG RANGE PLAN UPDATE I IDENTIFYING WASTEWATER TREATMENT, PLANTS, FUTURE SITES, AND POTENTIAL SERVICE AREAS THAT WAS COMPLETED, UM, LAST YEAR IN 2025. 
          AND THEN DEVELOP, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING AND DESIGN GUIDANCE, UM, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LATER SLIDE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS A MAP OF THE CITY WITH THE, UH, GREEN IS THE IMPACT FEE BOUNDARY, UM, AND THE KIND OF PURPLE HASH MARK THAT'S THE CENTRALIZED OR, UM, WOULD BE SERVED BY THE WALNUT AND THE SAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM WATER SYSTEM AND THE PURPLE PIPE SHOWN THERE. 
          AND THEN THE KIND OF COLORFUL POLYGONS AROUND, UM, KIND OF THE EASTERN CRESCENT AND THEN SOME OVER ON THE, THE WEST SIDE AS WELL. 
          THOSE WOULD BE, UH, DECENTRALIZED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE THREE THAT USE, UH, RECLAIMED ALREADY. 
          THAT'S THE BALCON, UH, RIVER PLACE AND LOST CREEK. 
          UM, AND THEN THE 2020, UH, THE 2040 TARGETS, UM, FOR WATER FORWARD INCLUDE WILD WILDHORSE, TAYLOR LANE AND PIERCE LANE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE OVER, UM, LIKE IN THE ORANGE, YELLOW AND GREEN THERE ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          AND THEN, OH, SORRY. 
          DID YOU, I WAS JUST CURIOUS FOR THE EXISTING SITES, WHAT ARE THE PURPOSES OF THE RECLAIMED WATER? UM, LIKE WHAT IS IT USED FOR? UM, UH, GOLF COURSES. 
          YEAH, MOSTLY GOLF COURSE IRRIGATION. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR SOME OF THE NEWER ONES, IS THERE GONNA BE ADDITIONAL IMPLEMENTATION FOR IRRIGATION OR ANY INDOOR YEAH. 
          USE MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE YOU CAN TALK TO, TALK TO US ABOUT THAT TOO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          RIGHT NEXT SLIDES ON THAT. 
          UH, AND THEN THE 2050 TO 2120 YIELDS INCLUDE E EXISTING AND ADDITIONAL CONCEPTUAL PLANTS. 
          UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE COLLABORATING WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH THE SER PROCESS AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW THESE SYSTEMS. NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE. 
          UM, UH, SO THE PIERCE LANE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, IT'S, UH, WITH THE SOUTHEAST TRAVIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S OVER ON THE EAST SIDE AT PIERCE LANE, KIND OF IN WOLF LANE. 
          AND THAT PLANT IS OPERATIONAL AND IT DISCHARGE FLOWS WITH A THREE MONTH AVERAGE EFFLUENT OF 0.09 MGD. 
          UM, THE, THE AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHEAST TRAVIS COUNTY MUD, UH, INCLUDES, UH, RECLAIMED. 
          SO THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO, UM, ALSO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DISTRIBUTE RECLAIMED USE OUT OF THIS PLANT. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE, UM, LIKE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED. 
          UM, SO IRRIGATION POTENTIAL, UM, TOILET FLUSHING AND, UH, COOLING. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A PROJECT THAT, UM, IS GETTING UNDERWAY IS THE DESIGN CRITERIA. 
          SO THE DECENTRALIZED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND RECLAIM DESIGN CRITERIA PLANNING, UM, IS TO DEVELOP, UM, STANDARDS AND DESIGN, UH, CRITERIA FOR THESE NEW, UM, NEW PLANTS AND EXPANSIONS TO INCORPORATE THE RECLAIMED, UM, PURPLE PIPE PUMP STATION STORAGE AND LIKE PUT STANDARDS ON ALL OF THAT FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO USE, UM, TO, TO DESIGN THOSE, UM, INCLUDING PIPING METERING AND MONITORING. 
          UH, SO WE ARE FINALIZING THE ENGINEERING SCOPE WITH THE CONSULTANT FIRM AND, UH, WE WILL COMPLETE WORK WORKSHOPS IN THE FUTURE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, NOW FOR THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM, UM, ALSO FOLLOWING IN, FILLING IN FOR KANE, UM, KANE IS THE, UH, RECLAIM CIP DELIVERY SUPERVISOR. 
          SO HIS TEAM, UM, LEADS THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, TO GET PROJECTS IN THE GROUND. 
          UM, MY TEAM DOES THE LONG RANGE PLANNING, MODELING, KIND OF, UH, DEMAND VERSUS CAPACITY, AND THEN HAND IT OFF TO KANE TO DELIVER THE PROJECTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
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SO FOR THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM GOALS, UM, HAVE THE YIELD TARGETS ON THE RIGHT HERE. 
          THESE ARE LARGER THAN THE DECENTRALIZED, SO, UM, LOOKING TO BEEF UP THE EXISTING SYSTEM, UM, AND GET LARGER TARGETS. 
          UM, SO OUR FIVE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS, UH, IMPLEMENTING NEW PROJECTS TO INCREASE SUPPLY AND EXTEND THE CENTRALIZED SERVICE AREA. 
          UM, AS CATHERINE MENTIONED, CONDUCTS WATER BENCHMARKING TO IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE USES OF RECLAIMED WATER AND REQUIRE CONNECTIONS AND ACCORDANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, EVALUATE THE RESULTS OF THE GO PURPLE PROGRAM AND RECOMMEND REVISIONS ANNUALLY, UM, IMPLEMENT PROJECTS TO COMPLETE THE CORE, UM, WHICH I HAVE A LIST ON IN A FUTURE SLIDE. 
          AND THE COMPLETE, THE RECLAIMED WATER LONG RANGE PLAN, UM, UPDATE THAT WE'VE STARTED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM IS, UH, THE PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM THAT COMES FROM THE WALNUT CREEK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THE SOUTH AUSTIN REGIONAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          THIS MAP SHOWS THOSE TWO PLANTS, UM, AND KIND OF A DARK PURPLE, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE PURPLE PIPES EXTENDING FROM THOSE PLANTS BACK TOWARDS KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          UM, AND THIS MAP IS AVAILABLE ON THE AUSTIN WATER WEBSITE. 
          UM, THE SOLID LINES ARE IN PLACE LINES, AND THEN THE DASH LINES ARE, UM, AT, UM, IN KIND OF, UH, UH, DIFFERENT STAGES OF DELIVERY. 
          BUT, UM, PROPOSED PIPES, UM, WE HAVE 70 PLUS MILES OF PIPELINE AND CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          UM, AND, UH, RATE WAS 3 35 PER THOUSAND GALLONS IN FY 26. 
          AND WE HAVE, UH, 1.8 PLUS BILLION GALLONS USED IN 2025. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          IS THAT RATE, UM, THE 3 35 IS, IS IT SUBSIDIZED OR IS THAT LIKE A, I KNOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SUBSIDIZE THE RECLAIMED RATES, BUT, SORRY. 
          . 
          HELLO, JOE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, YES, THAT, UH, 3 35 RATE IS A SSIS SUBSIDIZED RATE. 
          UH, OUR AVERAGE RETAIL RATE, UH, IS, UM, RIGHT AROUND, UH, UPPER $5 CLOSE TO $6. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 3 35 IS THE SUBSIDIZED RATE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          CAN I, SORRY, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? CAN YOU GO JUST BACK REALLY QUICKLY ON THE GOALS? 'CAUSE THOSE ARE CENTRALIZED RECLAIMED GOALS? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          FOR BASELINE, WHAT YEAR IS THAT? IS THAT 2024? UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          IT SAYS FIVE YEAR. 
          I THINK THAT BASELINE WAS AN AVERAGE OVER, UM, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE 2023 TO, UH, SORRY, NO, IT WAS MAYBE 2022 TO 2024, BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK IT UP AS AN AVERAGE OVER MULTI-YEAR PERIOD. 
          IT'S KIND WHERE WE WERE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE 24 PLAN. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          WHAT IT'S, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK IT WAS A RECENT THREE YEAR AVERAGE AT THAT TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO, YEAH. 
          SO, AND THEN ARE WE ON TRACK FOR 2030? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YEAH, WE SHOULD BE ON TRACK FOR 23. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, FOR THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM, WE SERVE OVER 225 RECLAIM METERS. 
          WE HAVE VARIOUS USES INCLUDING IRRIGATION, COOLING, INDUSTRIAL CONSTRUCTION, TOILET FLUSHING. 
          UM, SOME OF OUR NOTABLE CUSTOMERS, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY, SANDHILL ENERGY CENTER, UH, JIMMY CLAY, ROY, KAISER GOLF COURSE, TRAVIS COUNTY AND UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, UM, AND THE, OUR OTHER CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN REAL PARTNERS IN ADOPTING OUR RE REUSE AND RECLAIMED, UM, REQUIREMENTS IN THEIR NEW BUILDINGS WHEN THEY'RE, UM, LOOKING TO DO EXPANSIONS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO INSTALLMENT PATHWAYS AND DRIVERS. 
          SO, UM, WANTED TO GO OVER THE, KIND OF THE THREE WAYS WE GET NEW RECLAIMED INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. 
          UH, THE FIRST BEING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROJECTS, THE CIP PROJECTS, UM, THE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH AUSTIN WATERS LONG RANGE PLANS, AND THEN THE PIPELINES ARE INSTALLED IN PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR WITHIN EASEMENTS. 
          AND THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THESE PROJECTS IS AUSTIN WATER AND THE PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM. 
          UM, ON AVERAGE, UM, IT TAKES FOUR TO SEVEN PLUS YEARS FROM PROJECT INCEPTION TO COMPLETION TO GO THROUGH, UH, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING 
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DESIGN AND PERMITTING BID, UH, BID AND ADVERTISEMENT PHASE, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION PHASE TO GET THOSE PROJECTS IN THE GROUND. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND SO THESE ARE CURRENT RECLAIMED WATER CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER IN VARIOUS STAGES, UM, IN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UM, IN THOSE WATER FORWARD, UM, IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS COMPLETE THE CORE. 
          SO THESE, UH, FIRST FIVE PROJECTS LISTED ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CONSIDERED THAT COMPLETE THE CORE THAT'S CONNECTING KIND OF THE NORTH RECLAIM SYSTEM TO THE SOUTH RECLAIM SYSTEM, UM, TO BE FED FROM BOTH SIDES. 
          AND THEN, UM, IN CONSTRUCTION, UH, HAVE THREE MORE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN IN DESIGN, UM, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, NINE MORE IN, IN DESIGN. 
          UM, SO YEAH, AND LIKE I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THESE DO TAKE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THROUGH DESIGN TO GET IN CONSTRUCTION TO GET ONLINE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I'M GLAD TO SEE THE BILL MORIARTY LINE ON THE END DESIGN ONE. 
          THE SECOND BULLET, WHAT DOES INDESIGN MEANS? UH, WELL YOU SAID HERE, SO FOUR TO SEVEN YEARS, THAT'S FOR THE TOTAL, YEAH, YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IT'S INDESIGN. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO TWO OTHER WAYS THAT WE HAVE TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GROUND. 
          UM, SECOND BEING THE TRANSPORTATION COORDINATION. 
          WE REFER TO THESE AS MOBILITY PROJECTS. 
          WE HAVE TEAMS WITHIN AUSTIN WATER THAT, UH, FOCUS ON MOBILITY PROJECTS. 
          SO IT'S PROJECTS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE, ANOTHER ENTITY IS DRIVING THE PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S TXDOT, TRAVIS COUNTY, LIKE A, A ROADWAY PROJECT, AND WE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL A RECLAIMED LINE WITH THEIR PROJECT. 
          UH, WE WORK WITH THEM, UM, BUT WE ARE NOT THE PRIMARY DRIVER ON THE TIMELINE IN CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          IS THAT ONE OF THE DRIVERS FOR THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS LINE, LIKE ON OLD TURF WITH ALL THE HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION AND HAVING TO MOVE PIPES? IS THAT ONE OF THE KIND OF DRIVERS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW? OR AM I CONFLATING ALL THE GIANT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS HAPPENING IN THAT AREA? UM, I, I KNOW THERE ARE I 35 PROJECTS GOING ON IN THAT AREA. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE AUSTIN WATER PROJECTS, CIP THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THAT. 
          YEAH, I KNOW IT WAS LIKE MOVING SOME LINES AND SOMETHING THAT YEAH, I, I THINK CHARLES MAYBE CAN SPEAK TO IT IN MORE DETAIL. 
          BUT THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS PROJECT, WHICH ACTUALLY HAD SOME MEDIA COVERAGE TODAY, IS PART OF OUR COMPLETING THE CORE, UM, WORK. 
          UM, AND WE'RE CERTAINLY COORDINATING WITH THE I 35 PROJECT, AND CHARLES AND HIS TEAM ARE ALSO COORDINATING ON THE I 35 LARGER PROJECT TO, TO GET RECLAIMED, UM, PIPELINES IN THAT PROJECT WHERE WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE THIRD, UH, PATHWAY AND DRIVER IS SITE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. 
          SO, UM, LIKE THE SER PROCESS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UM, THE PRIMARY DRIVER IS SITE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, SO SINCE IT'S DEVELOPMENT, SOMETIMES WE, YOU KNOW, GET VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT SUBMITTED, WHETHER IT'S JUST HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL, SOMEONE TRYING TO, TO SEE WHAT THE COSTS COULD BE, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MORE, UM, CONCRETE TO CONTINUE. 
          UH, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY NOT AL ALWAYS MATERIALIZE IN THAT THE DEVELOPMENT, UM, MAY NOT MATERIALIZE. 
          UM, AND THEN WITH THESE, WE LOOK FOR COST PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO IF THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND A RECLAIM LINE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE AREAS AROUND THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE SIZED APPROPRIATELY TO ALLOW FURTHER EXTENSION AND SERVE ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS. 
          AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE CAN, UM, DO A COST PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPERS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I GUESS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF LOOKING AT SITE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, ALL THE THINGS COMING TOGETHER, TORI TO BE A DRIVER WOULD BE LIKE MUELLER BEING REDEVELOPED AND HAVING THAT LINE THERE AND THEN PUTTING THE TOWER AND ALL THAT LIKE OPPORTUNITY PLUS A LINE ALREADY THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          UM, SO I HAVE, THESE ARE TWO MAPS KIND OF SIDE BY SIDE. 
          THE LEFT SIDE SHOWS THE CENTRALIZED RECLAIM SYSTEM IN 2005. 
          UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, TWO, UM, KIND OF LINES, SHORTER LINES OUT OF WALNUT CREEK AND SAR, UM, DOWN SOUTH. 
          AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN PUT IN THE GROUND ON THE, ON THE RIGHT IN 2026. 
          AND THEN EVEN ADDITIONAL PROPOSED LINES. 
          SO, UM, REALLY MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN, UM, EXPANDING THE SYSTEM AND, UH, REALLY CONTINUING TO PUT IN MORE, UM, AS WE GO. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
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SO THE LONG RANGE PLAN UPDATE, UM, WAS KICKED OFF IN MAY, 2026. 
          IT'LL BE BUILDING ON THE PREVIOUS 2022 LONG RANGE PLAN. 
          UH, IT'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN ASSISTANCE PLANNING AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM. 
          AND IT'LL BE INCORPORATING NEW DATA INCLUDING ADVANCED METERING DATA, UM, THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SINCE THE LAST PLAN AND ALSO REFLECT SHIFTS IN CUSTOMER BASE WITH THE MANDATORY CONNECTION ORDINANCE. 
          NEXT SLIDE QUESTION. 
          UM, SORRY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. 
          I KNOW WITH THE, UM, CITY'S NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, THEY WERE GONNA CREATE A REAL ESTATE INVENTORY OF SHOVEL READY SITES THAT COULD BE OFFERED TO COMPANIES LOOKING TO MOVE TO AUSTIN AND IT WAS GONNA BE CITY OWNED SITES AND PRIVATE SITES THAT WERE LIKE RIPE FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          IS THERE ANY, UM, EFFORT TO SORT OF LOOK AT HOW THOSE SITES MIGHT SYNC UP WITH THE PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM IN MY MIND THAT WOULD LIKE GIVE ASIDE A GOOD SCORE IF IT WAS CLOSE TO OUR , OUR RECYCLED WATER SYSTEM? AND I, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, SINCE YOU'RE UPDATING THE LONG RANGE PLAN KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THAT REAL ESTATE INVENTORY BEING DEVELOPED, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR SYNERGY THERE? YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD POINT AND UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, SO THE PRIORITY FOCUS FOR THE 2027 LONG RANGE PLAN, UM, IS MAJOR SYSTEM SCALE INFRASTRUCTURE TO FURTHER HELP GROWTH WITHIN THE RECLAIM SYSTEM AND THE INCREASED NEED FOR SYSTEM LOOPING. 
          SO, UM, THE ORIGINAL KIND OF RECLAIM SYSTEM WAS BUILT, UM, TO SERVE GOLF COURSES WITH KIND OF LONG DEAD END LINES. 
          UM, AND SO I HAVE LIKE THIS LITTLE SIMPLIFIED GRAPHIC HERE ON THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, LONG DEAD END LINE, PURPLE PIPE, YOUR CUSTOMER AT THE END. 
          UM, SO IF WE NEEDED TO DO MAINTENANCE OR MAKE A NEW CONNECTION ON THAT LINE, UM, WE JUST WORK WITH THE GOLF COURSE TO NOT IRRIGATE THAT DAY, UM, WHILE WE'RE DOING THE WORK, RIGHT? BUT AS YOU HAVE A CHANGE IN CUSTOMER BASE, AS YOU HAVE PEOPLE USING IT FOR TOILET FLUSHING AND COOLING, IT NEEDS TO BE A MORE RELIABLE SYSTEM, NEEDS TO, UM, OPERATE MORE LIKE OUR POTABLE SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE'RE, UM, KEEPING THE FOCUS ON, UM, GROWTH, BUT ALSO PROVIDING SYSTEM RESILIENCE AND OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY. 
          SO PROVIDING MULTIPLE PATHWAYS TO GET THE WATER TO THE CUSTOMER SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT RELIABLE SYSTEM, UM, TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS DURING MAINTENANCE AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. 
          AND THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION OF OUR LONG RANGE PLAN UPDATE IS, UH, FALL 2027. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          SO, , ANY QUESTIONS? UM, QUESTION. 
          DOES ANYONE ONLINE, ANY OF OUR ONLINE TASK FORCE MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS? OKAY. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE ALL MY QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL SEE. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW I DO. 
          I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS. 
          I AM TOO. 
          GOSH. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND KEVIN, I WILL SAY, I THOUGHT THAT THIS REALLY BIG PACKET WAS YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I REALIZE IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A COUPLE SLIDES, SO I THINK WE CAN DO IT UNLESS YOU'VE COMPLETELY CHECKED OUT AND ARE LIKE, NO, I DON'T WANNA DO THIS ANYMORE. 
          . 
          UM, LET'S VOTE ON OUR VOTING ITEM. 
          JUST TAKE THIS OUT OF ORDER REAL QUICK. 
          UM, AT THE BACK OF YOUR PACKETS, THE BACK OF YOUR PACKETS IS ALSO AN ORG CHART FOR, UM, AUSTIN WATER. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE HAD A BUNCH OF CHANGES LATELY, SO IT'S VERY HANDY. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR PROVIDING THAT. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM, WHICH IS OUR 2027 PROPOSED MEETING DATES. 
          WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          UM, MY CALENDAR'S PROBABLY OPEN ON THESE DAYS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? OH, HERE WE GO. 
          EMILY'S CATCHING UP. 
          SORRY, I, I SPRUNG THAT ON YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OUR 2027 MEETING DATES? I MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT, SECOND. 
          FROM PAUL MOTION FROM ROBERT. 
          I SAID THAT BACKWARDS. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          A AYE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOUR 2027 IS PLANNED NOW. 
          THE MYSTERY IS GONE. 
          EMILY, DO YOU SEND OUT APPOINTMENTS ON THAT? YEAH, YOU DO. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, 
          [5. Staff briefing regarding highlights of Austin Water’s 2026 Q2 Report on Water Management Strategy Implementation. Presentation by Kevin Kluge, Water Conservation Division Manager, Austin Water.]
KEVIN. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON TASK FORCE MEMBERS. 
          KEVIN KLUGE, WATER CONSERVATION DIVISION MANAGER, AND THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A BRIEF BRIEFING ON BRIEFING Q2, UH, IMPLEMENTATION ACTIVITIES Q2. 
          AS YOU MAY RECALL, APRIL, MAY, JUNE OF LAST YEAR. 
          SO THIS IS A WHILE BACK 
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AT OUR DEC YEAR, DECEMBER MEETING. 
          I WILL BE BACK AGAIN WITH THE SAME THING FOR Q3. 
          SO YOU'LL SEE IT AGAIN, UH, AS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE FULL REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, PROBABLY NOT AT THIS MEETING, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS MEETING OR ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE FROM THIS OR ANY OF THE PACKET, UH, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM Q2 ARE IN THE SPRING. 
          UH, FIRST WE HAD A VERY LOW, UH, QUARTERLY WATER USE, UH, LOWER THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE IN THE GPCD SLIDE NEXT, UM, IT WAS ABOUT 117 GALLONS PER CAPITA DAILY. 
          UH, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH DOING SOME LARGE DIAMETER LEAK DETECTION. 
          THREE OF THE RECLAIMED PROJECTS THAT WERE MENTIONED JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, UH, MOVED INTO CONSTRUCTION PHRASE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. 
          SO THAT WAS EXCITING TO GET THEM ACTUALLY WORKED ON. 
          ALSO IN Q2, JD POWERS, UH, LET US KNOW OF THE RESULTS OF A SURVEY THEY DO OF OF WATER UTILITIES ACROSS THE NATION. 
          AND OF THE SURVEYS OF THE UTILITIES THAT THEY SURVEY, AUSTIN WATER, UH, WAS THIRD OUT OF 92 IN TERMS OF CUSTOMERS BEING AWARE OF WATER CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. WHO DID THEY MISTAKENLY PUT AHEAD OF US? , UH, UH, LAS VEGAS VALLEY WATER DISTRICT. 
          OH YEAH. 
          AND THE CITY OF FRESNO, CALIFORNIA. 
          OH, FRESNO. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE FRESNO CAME FROM, BUT, UH, AND THEN COUNCIL AUTHORIZED, UH, FIELD TESTING FOR A SR IN EASTERN TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          GPCD. 
          THE QUARTERLY WATER USE, UH, AS WE'VE SHOWN THIS BEFORE, THE VERTICAL BARS ARE THE QUARTERLY PER PERSON WATER USE AND IT'S STRATIFIED BY DIFFERENT CUSTOMER CLASSES. 
          THE GPCD IN Q2 IS ONE 17, UH, WHICH IS THE LOWEST IN THIS DATA SERIES THAT YOU SEE. 
          SO THAT WAS GOOD. 
          AND FOR A SECOND QUARTER IN A ROW, THE MULTIFAMILY WAS ACTUALLY JUST A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY GPCD. 
          UH, IT'S PROBABLY NOT TOO UNUSUAL SINCE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY WATER USE IS THAT SEASONAL WATER USE, UM, WHICH WILL BUMP UP INTO Q3. 
          BUT FOR THOSE TWO QUARTERS, UM, MULTIFAMILY WAS JUST A LITTLE HIGHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I BELIEVE JULY, AUGUST WILL FIX THAT. 
          YES. 
          I IMAGINE Q2 WAS, WAS A WET, UH, QUARTER. 
          UM, THIS IS AGAIN THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL WAY TO VIEW GPCD. 
          ONE THING TO NOTE ON THIS IS THAT TOP LINE, THE BLUE LINE GOES ACROSS IS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE'S SOME PRETTY SHARP PEAKS IN Q3. 
          BUT AS YOU GO FURTHER OVER INTO THE LAST TWO YEARS, PARTICULARLY IN 2025, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY HAD LESS PROMINENT PEAKS THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          AND, AND WE'LL SEE IN Q3, UH, WHAT THAT, THAT SUMMERTIME PEAK LOOKS LIKE THEN NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO TAKEAWAYS AND NEXT STEPS. 
          UH, LOWER WATER USE IN Q2 DUE TO ABOVE AVERAGE RAINFALL, MODERATE TEMPERATURES AND CUSTOMER WATER CONSERVATION, UM, WILL CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO USE LESS, USE THEIR WATER MORE EFFICIENTLY, EVEN IN TIMES OF PLENTY WHEN THE RESERVOIRS ARE AT 90% PLUS FULL. 
          UH, SO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          AND THEN WE WILL BE INITIATING THE REMAINDER OF THE BLACK AND VEATCH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT TO ONE, TWO YEARS AGO, UM, TO MITIGATE WATER LOSS BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 
          UH, CURRENTLY, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A HIGHER NUMBER NOW, 24 OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF 32 ARE COMPLETE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING WE HAVE A DEEP DIVE ON WATER LOSS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE. 
          SO VERY GOOD. 
          SO THAT'S THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE Q2 IMPLEMENTATION. 
          HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND ANY QUESTIONS TO EMILY AFTER THIS AND WE'LL BE BACK IN DECEMBER. 
          JUST A GOOFY GEEKY QUESTION. 
          IS THE, IT'S IT'S GPCD GALLONS PER CAPITA DAILY. 
          DO, DO YOU SET THE CAPITA OF 
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THE POPULATION LIKE ONCE PER YEAR OR DO YOU TRY TO LIKE MAKE SOME ESTIMATES IN THE QUARTERS? THEY'RE QUARTERLY. 
          THEY'RE QUARTERLY. 
          OKAY. 
          QUARTERLY ESTIMATE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ARE YOU PLEASED WITH THAT ? ARE YOU PLEASED WITH THAT NERDY ROBERTS? I AM. 
          I MEAN I WOULDN'T HAVE JUDGED IF THEY HADN'T. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 
          BUT I AM PLEASED. 
          I AM PLEASED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I ALSO AM CURIOUS THAT LIKE OUR NON-REVENUE WATER WENT FROM 23 TO 18 PER QUARTERS. 
          THAT'S QUITE A SIGNIFICANT DROP, BUT 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN PRETTY IN THE TWENTIES, I JUST KIND OF WONDER WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED THERE. 
          AND IN THAT NON-REVENUE 18, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOTAL PUMPED OUT OF THE TREATMENT PLANT VERSUS ALL THE SALES. 
          SO YOU ALSO HAVE TO RECALL, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS IN A SENSE MM-HMM . 
          AND WE'LL SEE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, A BETTER VIEW OF THAT. 
          I THINK IF WE USE LESS, WE HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT HOW, HOW, WHAT'S THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF THE LOSS DUE TO LEAKAGE. 
          I'M SURE I SHOULD KNOW THAT, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          CURIOUS. 
          AND DO WE SEE ANY, UH, IMPROVEMENT IN THAT OR DECREASE IN THAT, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT TERM THAT PERRY I DO NOT KNOW. 
          I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO IN TERMS OF, OF LEAKAGE AND CHANGE IN LEAKAGE OVER TIME. 
          I DUNNO IF ANYONE, WELL, UM, YEAH, THAT'S THE, UH, WE HAVE THE, AN INFRASTRUCTURE LEAKAGE INDEX AND AN ILI THAT WE TRACK AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT WATER LOSS AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN MORE DETAIL SO WE CAN PRESENT THE, UM, THE GRAPH THAT SHOWS HOW OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LEAKAGE INDEX HAS BEEN CHANGING OVER TIME, SO WE CAN, UH, GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO TRACK THAT CLOSELY. 
          WE, WHEN WE DO AN ANNUAL PROCESS AND WE SUBMIT THE INFORMATION TO TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD AS PART OF OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, WATER LOSS REPORTING AND, AND THERE'S A KIND OF A SET, UM, PROCEDURE YOU GO THROUGH TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW MUCH WATER IS BEING PUT INTO THE SYSTEM, HOW MUCH IS BEING USED BY CUSTOMERS, AND THEN ACCOUNTING FOR WATER USES THAT, UM, ARE NOT BILLED TO CUSTOMERS BUT UM, ARE ASSOCIATED WITH KNOWN LEAKS AND, UH, FIREFIGHTING AND, UM, DIFFERENT KIND OF OTHER USES OF WATER IN THE SYSTEM THAT AREN'T SPECIFICALLY, UH, BILLED TO CUSTOMERS. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO THAT TRACKING AND, AND WE CAN REPORT ON THAT MORE OR TALK ABOUT THAT MORE AT, AT, AT THE DECEMBER MEETING. 
          YEAH, SO, SO, OH WAIT, I JUST CURIOUS, I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT 5% OR IS IT 40% OR JUST, IS THERE ANY SENSE OF THAT? I GUESS I CAN WAIT, BUT I'M JUST DYING TO KNOW. 
          PERRY, I THINK LOOKING AT THESE TABLES, LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE TOTAL, UM, LOOKING AT THESE ONES THAT THEY SHOWED, AND MAYBE THEY CAN PULL THE SLIDE BACK UP. 
          OH, YOU CAN'T SEE THIS. 
          WHY AM I SHOWING IT TO YOU LIKE THIS? I FEEL LIKE I'M ON A ZOOM. 
          UM, BUT THEY'RE GONNA PULL IT UP, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S 18 I'LL FIND IS NON-REVENUE OUT OF, UM, LOOK HERE, ROBERT'S GONNA DO SOME MATH REAL QUICK, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, AND NOT, OH, I SIGNIFICANT PORTION I SEE IT, BUT THAT TOP BAR ON EACH OF THOSE IS THE NON-REVENUE WATER. 
          SO LIKE IT'S EQUAL TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN COMMERCIAL. 
          IT'S 15%. 
          SO, UM, BUT THAT'S LIKE FOR THIS, IT WENT FROM 23 TO 18, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND NON-REVENUE IS EVERYTHING, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S WHETHER THE METERS ARE INCORRECT, WHETHER WE'RE LOSING WATER THROUGHOUT LINES. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STUFFS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE, BUT THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DROP. 
          I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS. 
          AND OF COURSE IT NEEDS TO BE VERIFIED. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MAYBE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED 20 OUT OF 30 OR SOMETHING MEASURES AND MAYBE WE'RE SEEING PROGRESS ON IT, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL HIGH. 
          UM, AND SO, BUT THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I I GET IT NOW. 
          SHAME ON ME FOR NOT LOOKING AT THAT. 
          I GET IT. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          THERE'S ALL PERRY, THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THERE AND A LOT OF COLORS AND YOU KNOW, , SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO TEASE OUT ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE HAS SOME, BEEN SOME SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT RECENTLY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD. 
          IT'S A GOOD DIRECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WE'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT IN DECEMBER. 
          UM, I'M, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT AS WELL. 
          AND, AND I KNOW WE, UH, DON'T HAVE TIME TO HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSION ON SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO PACK A LAWN IN IN OUR MEETINGS, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST. 
          WE'LL TRY TO MAKE TIME FOR THE WATER LOSS DISCUSSION. 
          I KNOW FOLKS WILL BE INTERESTED IN IT. 
          UM, THANK YOU ALL. 
          IT'S 2 0 2 
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AND WE WILL BE ADJOURNED. 
          HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYBODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU.
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