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YES.

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TODAY IS OCTOBER 16TH,

[CALL TO ORDER]

IT'S 3:02 PM UM, I LIKE TO CALL THE MONTHLY CPRC MEETING TO ORDER.

UH, LET'S FIRST, UH, CONFIRM QUORUM AS I, UM, LIST YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY I OR LIFT YOUR HAND.

LIFT YOUR HANDS.

OKAY.

CARLOS GRAVES.

PRESENT.

CHRISTOPHER HARRIS.

LAURA PENA.

AYE.

CATHERINE RUSSELL, YOU HAVE AUDIO PRESENT? YES, I DO.

THANK YOU.

LA CORTES FRANCO.

PRESENT? DEREK EUGENE.

PRESENT? MARISA JOHNSON.

HERE.

LEE PETERMAN? HERE.

UH, LEE, COULD YOU PUT YOURSELF ON CAMERA? I THINK IT'S A RECORDER.

YEAH, I'M TRYING HAVING SOME ISSUES, BUT I'M GONNA, I MAY HAVE TO GET OUT AND BACK IN, BUT I'M HERE.

AND, AND CELESTE, WILLIAM? NOT PRESENT.

OKAY.

I THINK THIS CONFIRMS WE HAVE A QUORUM.

SO, UH, WELCOME.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS TODAY? OKAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ONE TO PICK.

OKAY.

SO THEN I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH, UM, SINCE NO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, LET'S GO TO, WE HAVE, EXCUSE ME, APPROVAL

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OF MINUTES.

OKAY.

UH, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES.

THIS CASE WE HAVE TWO.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 21ST, 2020, 26 MEETING, AND THERE'S, UH, SEPTEMBER.

I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE AUGUST 21ST, 2026 MINUTES.

AND, UH, MOTION AND MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL.

I MOVE.

AND SECOND PLEASE.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, WOULD YOU, UH, UH, WOULD LIKE TO GO TO ONE BY ONE? GOES PRESENT.

COULD YOU SAY YES OR A AND A, UH, AS FAR AS YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES, CARLOS GRAVES APPROVE LOUD, PENA AYE.

CATHERINE RUSSELL APPROVE.

LAURA CORTES APPROVE.

DEREK EUGENE APPROVE.

MAN.

JOHNSON APPROVE.

UH, LEE PETERMAN.

HE IS.

OKAY, BUT THAT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE SIX.

IT'S STILL RECORDING.

YOU JUST JOINED RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I, I DO APPROVE.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO, AND THEN I, I NEED A NEXT MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026.

MOVED.

SO MOVED.

OKAY.

I SECOND.

I SECOND.

OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, I'LL GO THROUGH, UM, AND ONE BY ONE.

CONFIRM YOUR APPROVAL IS APPROVAL BY SAYING, YAY.

PRESENT APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026.

CARLOS GRAVES APPROVE.

PENA ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

CATHERINE RUSSELL APPROVE.

FRANCO.

COMMISSIONER FRANCO APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER EUGENE APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER PETERMAN APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO MEANS THAT VOTE.

WERE APPROVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM

[3. Staff briefing by Director Gail McCant regarding updates related to Austin Police Oversight (APO), including an overview and key highlights; administrative and operational updates; commission support and follow-up; community engagement; policy highlights; and upcoming items and priorities.]

NUMBER THREE.

SO, PARDON.

THAT WAS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE SURE I NAME THE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER THREE WITH STAFF BRIEFING.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WE HAVE QUITE A BRIEFING FOR TODAY.

SO LET'S START WITH OUR KEY HIGHLIGHTS.

ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, THE ENTIRE SUPERVISOR TEAM AND I MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE CENTRAL TEXAS INTERFAITH.

UM, WE WANTED TO DISCUSS A P'S MISSION AND ITS WORK, AS WELL AS ASSIST THEM WITH CONNECTING WITH A PT TO DISCUSS CONCERNS RAISED BY THEIR MEMBERSHIP AS WELL AS INDIVIDUALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE MADE SOME CONNECTIONS FOR THEM THERE.

UM, WE ALSO LEARNED ABOUT THEIR 2027 LEGISLATIVE, UH, AGENDA.

THE CENTRAL TEXAS INTERFACE, UH, COMMUNITY IS A CONSORTIUM, CONSORTIUM OF FAITH CONGREGATIONS.

THEY COME TOGETHER, UH, TO, TO DISCUSS POLICY AND OTHER ISSUES THAT IMPACT THEIR COMMUNITY.

AS YOU KNOW, ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, WE HELD THE A PO, UH, EXPO AT CITY HALL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREAVES, FRANCO, AND PENA FOR JOINING US AND ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THE EVENT WAS WELL PLANNED, AND

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WHILE ATTENDANCE WAS LOW, UM, LOWER THAN WE HAD HOPED, ATTENDEES ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH OUR STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS.

WE DEVELOP, DEVELOP GREAT, UM, MATERIALS, INCLUDING VIDEOS AND CHAT PRESENTATIONS THAT WILL BE POSTED ON THE A PO WEBSITE FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.

OUR NEXT PLAN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENT WILL BE ON DECEMBER 2ND, ON THE FINAL, UH, QUARTERLY MEETING OF THE YEAR TO DISCUSS ACTIVITIES FROM THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2026, JULY THROUGH SEPTEMBER.

ON THE 28TH, A PO CONDUCTED A DEPARTMENT EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION TO THE CITY WORKS ACADEMY.

UH, CITY WORKS ACADEMY IS A FREE, INTERACTIVE, CIVIC EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT OFFERS RESIDENTS OF BEHIND THE BEHIND THE SCENE.

LOOK AT HOW AUSTIN CITY GOVERNMENT WORKS.

OCTOBER 1ST, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND MANAGER KIMBRO MET WITH DAN, UM, ALITO, SORRY, DAN, IF I'M BUTCHERING YOUR NAME.

UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE POLICE EXECUTIVE RESEARCH FORUM.

THEY CALL THIS PERF.

UM, PERF IS AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT RESEARCH AND MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION BASED IN WASHINGTON DC WHOSE CORE MISSION IS TO ADVANCE PROFESSIONALISM IN POLICING, REDUCE THE USE OF FORCE, PROMOTE COMMUNITY POLICING, AND EVALUATE CRIME STRATEGIES.

UH, PERF HAS A PROPRIETARY CONTROL OF THE INTER INTEGRATING COMMUNICATIONS AND TACTICS, WHICH WE CALL I ICA, WHICH IS A APDS.

THIS IS AD'S NEW USE OF FORCE DECISION MAKING POLICY, AND DAN HAS TRAINED A PO STAFF ON ICAT AS WELL.

AND WE ARE WORKING WITH DAN TO DEVELOP A EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM TO BE, UH, PUBLISHED ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE ON OCTOBER 6TH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND A PO HELD THEIR MONTHLY LEADERSHIP MEETING TO DISCUSS HIGH LEVEL CASES, POLICY AND PROCESS CONCERNS AND UPDATES.

UH, ALSO ON OCTOBER 6TH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR MASTERS MET WITH BOB LAUDER.

HE IS THE CONSULTANT WHO, UH, IS WORKING WITH PUBLIC'S WORKS, LLC TO CONDUCT THE EFFICIENCY REVIEW AS REQUESTED BY COUNSEL.

DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE STAFFING, STAFF ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, BUDGET PROCESS, CASE DATA, AND, UH, DATA TRENDS, UH, AND CPRC, BASELINE INFORMATION.

HE MAY BE REACHING OUT TO YOU CHAIR, UH, TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AS WELL HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

ON OCTOBER 12TH, KEVIN AND I PARTICIPATED IN A MANDATORY CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS TRAINING WITH OTHER CITY DIRECTORS AND CITY LEADERSHIP.

UH, COOP IS A PROGRAM SPONSORED BY AUSTIN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO STRENGTHEN DEPARTMENT PREPAREDNESS AND ENSURE CONTINUITY OF ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS DURING EMERGENCIES AND OPERATIONAL DISRUPTIONS.

SO, SOME OF OUR UPCOMING ACTIVITIES INCLUDE POLICY AND RESEARCH ALONGS WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS ENGAGEMENT STAFF.

HAVE A FEW MORE SCHEDULED MEETINGS WITH BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS WHO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND EDUCATION REGARDING THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD NOVEMBER 7TH THROUGH THE 12TH.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE AT NA COLE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE C-P-R-C-A ALTERNATES, OF COURSE, WE'VE COMPLETED SOME OF THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND ONCE EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE, WE'LL DO THE APPOINTMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER COMMISSION SUPPORT, AND FOLLOW UP.

AT THIS TIME, THERE'S NO NEW ITEMS OR ACTIONS TO REPORT.

THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS WERE FORWARDED TO ALL THE FULL BOARD AS A SEPARATE DOCUMENTS OF SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, AND SO, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT IN YOUR INBOX.

IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, NO WRONG DOOR.

SEPTEMBER 28TH AND OCTOBER 8TH, A PO STAFF CONDUCTED INTRODUCTORY, UH, MEETINGS WITH A PD LEADERSHIP ON SEPTEMBER 28TH, AND OFFICERS ON OCTOBER 8TH REGARDING THE RECENTLY LAUNCHED NO WRONG DOOR PROGRAM, TEXAS HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE.

THAT WAS ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.

A PO INTRODUCED THE OFFICE, UH, SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO, UM, TO THE TEXAS HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE REP.

THEY REPRESENT, THERE ARE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED ON PREVENTING, UH, OVERDOSES IN THE COMMUNITY.

NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AT HAKA, UH, SELENA AND ROSEWOOD PROPERTIES.

THAT WAS ON OCTOBER 6TH, A PO STAFF TABLED AT A FAMILY ORIENTED EVENT AT A HOUSING AUTHORITY, PROPERTY SHARING.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS INFORMATION WITH ATTENDEES, OIS DASHBOARD.

PRESENTATION FOR MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY.

THAT WAS OCTOBER 9TH.

A PO STAFF PRESENTED THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DASHBOARD TO THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

VOCAL TEXAS PRESENTATION AT TEXAS AT THE TRINITY CENTER.

THAT WAS ON OCTOBER 14TH.

A PO STAFF WILL CONDUCT A WORKSHOP ON THE, UH, COMPLAINTS PROCESS

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FOR VOCAL TEXAS, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FOCUSED ON SERVING THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UH, THE STATE OF THE DISTRICT WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LANE.

THAT'S ON OCTOBER 15TH.

IS THAT TODAY? THAT WAS YESTERDAY.

THAT WAS YESTERDAY.

ON YESTERDAY.

A PO STAFF, UH, TABLED AT A COMMUNITY EVENT HOSTED BY CO COUNCIL MEMBER LANE IN DISTRICT SIX.

UM, ALL SAINT SYSTEMS, UH, SIMULATION AND BEYOND THE BENCH PILOT.

THAT WAS OCTOBER 16TH.

THAT IS TODAY.

UM, A PO STAFF WILL ATTEND A COMMUNITY EVENT DESIGNED TO HELP SERVICE, UM, PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES FACED BY PEOPLE RETURNING TO THE COMMUNITY AFTER INCARCERATION.

OIS DASHBOARD PRESENTED TO THE, UH, LESBIAN, GAY BISEXUAL TRANSITION, TRANSGENDER AND QUEER COMMUNITY OF LIFE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

THAT'S ON MONDAY THIS 19TH.

AND SO WE WILL BE THERE.

UM, UM, PRESENTING THE OIS DASHBOARD TO THAT COMMISSION.

THERE'S ALSO A POPUP RESOURCE CLINIC ON THE 21ST.

AND THEN ON, UM, COMMUNITY CONNECTION RESOURCE FAIR.

THAT IS ON NOVEMBER, UH, 14TH, ON DECEMBER 2ND AND THIRD, THE POLICE OVERSIGHT IMPLEMENTATION WORKING GROUP OCCURS.

THEN WE DON'T HAVE A DATE.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A, A LOCATION, BUT THAT IS PENDING.

AND AT THAT EVENT, WE PLAN TO PRESENT THE 2025 ANNUAL REPORT AT THAT EVENT.

AND WE ARE ASKING YOU TO ATTEND IF OF YOU ARE AVAILABLE TO TABLE, ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT EVENT ON THE COMPLAINTS TEAM.

THE COMPLAINTS DIVISION IS CURRENTLY FILLING THE ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST POSITION AND WE'LL INTERVIEW CANDIDATES NEXT WEEK.

THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE VACANT COMPLAINT SPECIALIST POSITION HAS CLOSED, AND THE TEAM HOPES TO HAVE THIS POSITION FILLED BY THE END OF NOVEMBER.

BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 18 AND OCTOBER 9TH, WE HAD SIX FORMAL COMPLAINTS.

THEY WERE FORWARDED TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION FOR INVESTIGATION.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT A PO WAS NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A VIDEO INVOLVING A A PD OFFICER AND A USE OF FORCE INCIDENT OCCURRING ON OCTOBER 5TH.

UH, WAS IT WAS BEING SHARED ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

WE RECEIVED EIGHT COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE INCIDENT, FOUR OF WHICH WERE ANONYMOUS.

THE CASE WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION FOR FORM INVESTIGATION, UPCOMING ITEMS AND PRIORITIES, YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

THESE ARE ALL THE, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UM, BROUGHT FORTH.

I WON'T READ THEM ALL.

YOU SHOULD HAVE THOSE IN YOUR, UH, INBOX IN THE REPORT.

THANK YOU.

UM, QUICK QUESTION.

UM, THE, I GUESS AS PART OF THE REPORTING, UM, WILL YOU ALSO TELL US WHEN, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE, WHEN WE'VE ASKED COMMISSIONERS TO LEAVE SO FORTH? BECAUSE I THINK I, SOME OF THE, I REALIZE I MAY KNOW, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS MAY NOT KNOW THAT, THAT WE HAVE ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER FLOOD.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE, BUT YES.

AND IT'S PART OF THE AUTOMATIC, UM, VACANCY OF SEAT DUE TO ATTENDANCE.

ARE ARE THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW TOO? FOR NOW? YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY THE NAME, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE ONLY PERSON THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN A OFFICIALLY GIVEN A, UM, THIS, UM, VACATE POSITION IS COMM IS THAT THAT ONE COMMISSIONER? CORRECT.

SO THAT YOU CAN BE AWARE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT LIST THAT YOU JUST LISTED OFF WAS HUGE, AND I JUST AM REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

UM, IT ALSO MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE I KNOW ON THIS COMMISSION WE'RE TOLD WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD AUTHORITY THAN WHAT WE RECOGNIZE RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, WOULD, COULD WE FIND OUT IF, SAY SOME OF THOSE NONPROFITS THAT YOU LISTED OUT, IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY CAUSING HARM IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOBODY'S LISTENING, ARE WE ABLE TO DO SOME SORT OF REVIEW OF THOSE NONPROFITS AND REPORT TO THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL WITH THAT INFORMATION SINCE IT'S DIRECTLY TIED TO Y'ALL'S OFFICE AS FAR AS, UM, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED.

ED, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR, I WANNA FOLLOW UP REGARDING SOME BUSINESS CARDS FOR THE UPCOMING NA TRAINING AND EVENTS.

SO I, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF BEEN, UH, SINCE MAY 20TH, I RECEIVED AN UPDATE ON AUGUST 4TH.

I WAS TOLD WE MIGHT HAVE LIKE A TABLECLOTH FOR THE EVENTS THAT WE TABLE SOME NAME TAGS.

SO I, I'D APPRECIATE AN UPDATE ON, UH, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE, WE WON'T BE MEETING UNTIL AFTER WE GO TO THE NACO TRAINING, THAT WE AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING TO IDENTIFY OURSELVES AS CPRC AUSTIN CITY MEMBERS.

YEAH.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE NAME

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TAGS, THE, IN OUR POSSESSION.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TABLECLOTHS, UH, WITH CPRC MARKINGS IN OUR POSSESSION.

UH, AS LATE AS AN HOUR AGO, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.

THE WAY THE NAME CARDS ARE, ARE ORDERED, IT'S, IT'S ONE VENDOR, UH, AND THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE AND THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE FOR ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, NOT FOR COMMISSIONS.

AND WE TRIED TO ORDER, UH, BUSINESS CARDS FOR YOU GUYS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE YOU FORMATTED IN THEIR TEMPLATE.

SO ONLY THE, WHATEVER THE NAME OF THE NEW CPIO ONE, THE AT THE COMMUNICATION, THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT HAS TO GIVE THE APPROVAL FOR US TO EITHER ADD THE TEMPLATE OR TAKE THE NECESSARY ACTION WITH THE VENDOR IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE ORDER YOUR CARDS.

IT IS, UH, HIGH ON OUR PRIORITY LIST.

LIKE I SAY, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL JUST FIVE MINUTES AGO THAT SAYS, HEY, IT'S IN JESSICA KING'S, UH, ON HER DESK NOW TO MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE APPROVAL TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE BACK ON THE EVENT THAT YOU ASKED US TO TABLE, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THE LOCATION DATE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL MAKE AN EFFORT TO ATTEND.

YEAH.

WE HAVEN'T SOLIDIFIED A DATE, BUT WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THOSE WERE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

UM, MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU RECOGNIZE, UH, TWO? YEAH.

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO FAIL.

FIRST TIME WE GONNA DO THAT, JOIN US AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. YES, THANKS.

UH, BEFORE WE

[4. Discussion of and approval of the Community Police Review Commission meeting schedule for the 2027 calendar year.]

MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, I WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS AND COMMISSIONER DE LA PASS HAVE JOINED US.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DISCUSSION OF AN APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR THE 2027 CALENDAR YEAR.

I THINK WOULD, UH, STAFF PLEASE ON LEAVE THAT OR, YES.

SO FOR THE 2027, DID THE COMMISSION WANT TO KEEP THE SCHEDULE AS THE SAME EVERY THIRD FRIDAY FROM THREE TO SIX? OR DID YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR 2027? UH, I SEE NO REASON TO CHANGE THE DATE AND THE TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS POSSIBLY TAKING A BREAK FOR THE SUMMER.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE PAST.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE COMMISSION.

UM, YOU COULD DISCUSS THAT AND IF YOU WANTED TO PUT INTO THE PLAN, THEN YOU WOULD JUST VOTE ON IT.

OKAY.

JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE.

WE, WE'LL DISCUSS AND AGREE ON A BREAK FOR THE SUMMER AND THEN, UM, VOTE ON IT.

IS THAT MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

JUST TO CLARIFY, IS THIS SOMETHING, IS THIS ITEM OPEN FOR DISCUSSION? YES.

DISCUSSION? YEAH.

SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT? THIS AN ACTION, ACTION ITEM, SO I YEAH, WE, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT NOW AND VOTE ON IT.

DO THAT NOW.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW COMMISSIONER EUGENE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN CHAMPION.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU LIKE TO LEAD THE CONVERSATION AND, UM, STATE YOUR PROPOSAL FOR A SUMMER.

YEAH.

IN FACT, THE CITY COUNCIL I THINK TAKES A BREAK IN JULY AND AUGUST, AND I JUST PROPOSED WE FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN, UM, MEET ON OUR REGULAR MEETING DATES THE THIRD FRIDAY OF THIRD FRIDAY FROM THREE TO SIX, AND THEN EXCEPT FOR JULY AND AUGUST.

AND THAT MIGHT HELP WITH SOME OF THE ATTRITION ISSUES TOO.

OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS REGARDING ANY OBJECTIONS OR ANY YEAH, GO AHEAD.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, I'M GIVING COMMISSIONER WILLIAM THE FLOOR.

I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, UH, JOHNSON.

THE FLOOR.

JOHNSON.

OKAY.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR, WE STAYED BUSY THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD KEEP THOSE, UH, WE SHOULD KEEP MEETING THROUGH THE SUMMER AND PERHAPS MAYBE CONSIDER ADOPTING SOME ADDITIONAL MEETINGS AS WELL THAT'S IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

INTERESTING.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE A DIVERSE GROUP.

UH, I GUESS, UH, COMMISSIONER RUSSELL, YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING? I DO.

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UM, I, UH, I, I, I COULD GO EITHER WAY, BUT I HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION.

WHY THIS SUMMER BE, UH, BECAUSE WHAT SUMMER FOR ME, YOU KNOW, I CHRISTMAS TIME, YOU KNOW, DECEMBER WOULD BE A BETTER TIME IN TERMS OF THE CYCLE OF MY LIFE.

I DON'T HAVE KIDS.

UM, BUT, UH, LIKE IN DECEMBER, JANUARY WOULD LOOK BETTER FOR ME.

BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY THE SUMMER? BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS THE PATTERN OF CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY.

WELL, ONE, ONE COULD ARGUE THAT, UH, CRIME AND INCIDENTS ARE NOT GONNA FOLLOW THE CITY COUNCIL'S THING.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHO , YOU KNOW, I THINK A BREAK IS INTERESTING, BUT I COULD SEE WHERE SOME OTHER DAY TOO WILL HOLD.

BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER PETERMAN, I, I KNOW YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING, SORRY.

YEAH, YEAH.

I, I KIND OF AGREE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH, WITH ESSENTIALLY OUR WORKLOAD OR OUR, OUR POTENTIAL WORKLOAD.

AND TO ME, TO TAKE THREE MONTHS OFF WOULD, IF NOTHING ELSE DELAY ANY KIND OF DISPOSITION THAT WE HAD.

UH, I, I WOULD NOT, I I WOULDN'T SUPPORT A SUMMER BREAK.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SINCE WE'RE REALLY NOT MARRIED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, I, I WOULD NOT, I I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.

OKAY.

FAIR.

YEAH.

HOW MANY, UM, THIS IS TO THE STAFF.

HOW MANY COMMISSIONS HAVE WE LOST JUST THIS YEAR? SIR? I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, MAYBE RYAN CAN LOOK THEM UP AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU IN A SECOND.

SO IT'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION FOR ATTRITION.

SO THE ISSUE IS, I THINK IF YOU MISS THREE MEETINGS IN A, IN A, IN A, IN A CALENDAR YEAR, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY REMOVED.

SO THIS MIGHT GIVE PEOPLE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO AVOID THE LEVEL OF ATTRITION THAT WE HAD.

'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN OUR PACE OF GOING THROUGH CASES.

SO IT'S LOSING COMMISSIONS, IT'S THREE MEETINGS CONSECUTIVELY, AND THEN THREE, ONE THIRD MEETINGS IN THE 12 ROLLING MONTHS.

YEAH.

CONSECUTIVELY ALSO UNJUSTIFIED TOO.

WELL, WITHOUT, THAT'S WITHOUT EXCUSE.

THERE'S, EXCUSES ARE VERY NARROW.

CLARIFY THAT, I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THAT BREAK, LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, WE'RE WE'RE ALREADY GETTING BEHIND ON WORK.

I MIGHT SUPPORT WHAT MS. RUSSELL HAS SAID WITH DOING POSSIBLY THE DECEMBER, BUT I'M ALSO THINKING YOU ARE SAYING, UM, WE WANT TO TAKE THOSE TWO, TWO MONTHS OFF AND IT MIGHT HELP WITH ATTRITION, BUT HONESTLY, I DON'T WANT SOMEONE ON THIS BOARD WHO'S NOT GONNA TAKE THE TIME TO SHOW UP ANYWAY.

SO JUST GIVING THAT EXTRA EXCUSE TO BE GONE AND ADDING TWO MONTHS ON TOP OF THAT, I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE DEDICATED PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION.

AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT TAKING TIME OFF DURING THE SUMMER IS WISE.

AS THEY'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, CRIME PROBABLY GOES UP WHEN SCHOOL IS OUT.

SO I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A, A BRIGHT IDEA.

OKAY.

IF I CAN, IF I CAN JUST CHIME IN AND JUST CIRCLE BACK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT MY REASONING IS, IS THAT, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE NOT PAID.

SO EVERYONE, UH, MOST, YOU KNOW, ANYONE'S NOT RETIRED.

WE HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB.

UM, WE HAVE OUR OBLIGATIONS IN OUR LIVES AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND, UM, THE REASON WHY I AM PICKING DECEMBER IS BECAUSE I FIND THAT THERE IS A, AN EXTRA LAYER OF TIME CONSTRAINTS BECAUSE THERE ARE FAMILY OBLIGATIONS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT SEASON.

AND SO WE ALREADY, THOSE OF US THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE POLICING OUR, OUR, OUR FREE TIME BANDWIDTH, UH, BECOMES MORE CONSTRAINED DURING THAT TIME.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

UM, PERSONALLY IN MY LIFE CYCLE.

THE SUMMER'S NOT BAD FOR ME.

I'M NOT, AND THAT'S NOT MY BUSY SEASON.

SO, UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT.

BUT, UH, FOR ME IT'S JUST THE TIMING AND THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER? I I COULD GO AHEAD.

I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, THE DECEMBER ONE BECAUSE PEOPLE, YEAH, A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVEL AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS A CERTAIN TIME.

THE, THE SUMMER ONE, I, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT.

I KIND OF WITH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER PENA WORK, THERE IS A LOT OF, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO, AND WE WOULD JUST FALL FARTHER AND FARTHER BEHIND, IN MY OPINION.

SO, OKAY.

OTHER COMMENTS? I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, RIGHT? THIS IS VOLUNTEER NON-PAID.

IT TAKES A LOT OF HOURS, A LOT OF COMMITMENT.

WE ARE HERE, WE'RE STILL HERE.

UH, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

SO I THINK THE MIDDLE GROUND OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR'S, ACTING CHAIR HAS THE AUTHORITY TO NOT HAVE A MEETING

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DURING CEREMONY.

THERE'S NO AGENDA ITEMS. SO I THINK THE MIDDLE GROUND, IF WE CAN HOPE AND PLAN TO GET ALL OF THESE CASES WORK DONE, UM, WITH THE FACT THAT IF WE WRAP UP, UH, OUR NOVEMBER MEETING, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO HAVE A DECEMBER MEETING, RIGHT? IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO CURRENT CASES, NOTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MET AT AN OFFICIAL MEETING, THERE'S ALSO THAT OPTION.

SO WE CAN ALWAYS CANCEL MEETINGS IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS TO KINDA, IF WE TRULY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MEETING FOR A CERTAIN TIME OR MONTH, WE CAN HOPEFULLY ALL PREPARE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO IT, THERE'S STILL THAT OPTION.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AND, UM, I'M NOT SAYING I'M MAKING THE MOTION, I'M SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MEET, UM, ON THE THIRD THURSDAY, THIRD FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH, EXCEPT DECEMBER.

SO I LIKE THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO CALL THE QUESTION FOR ME TO MAKE THE MOTION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OH, I, I HAVEN'T CHIME IN EITHER.

AND I WAS ACTUALLY ON WAITING FOR THE CONSENSUS HERE.

I THINK MOST OF US PROBABLY SEEMS THAT BELIEVE THAT WE'RE BEHIND THAT THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR A BREAK.

CERTAINLY, UH, I'M NOT INC, I'M PERSONALLY NOT INCLINED TO, UH, TO VOTE FOR, UH, A BREAK.

AND I WAS, I WISH TO, I WAS HOPING TO AVOID A VOTE THAT WOULD, UH, END UP IN A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, PART OF A CHURCH JOB IS TO AVOID.

BUT I, IF YOU INSIST ON CALLING IT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL A MOTION JUST TO, TO APPROVE THE FRIDAY, THE THIRD FRIDAYS, UH, AS IS AND FOLLOWING THE SPIRIT OF COMMISSIONER FRANCO, IF SOMETHING COMES UP, YOU KNOW, WE, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO, BUT ON RULE AND BY OFFICIAL DECREE, I JUST PREFER US TO, TO LEAVE THINGS AS, AS IS, SORRY, COMMISSIONER.

SO YOU WERE GONNA SAY SOMETHING? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, SOMETHING I'M UNCLEAR ON THAT I COULD USE SOME CLARIFICATION.

UM, THE CASES THAT WE REVIEW, UM, ARE WE ABLE TO REVIEW OUR CASES AND SUBMIT OUR, UM, OUR, UH, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY, OUR CONCLUSIONS, UM, ARE WE ONLY ABLE TO SUBMIT OUR CONCLUSIONS AT MEETINGS OR WOULD WE STILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE REVIEWING OUR CASES AND, AND SENDING OUR CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT A MEETING IF WE WERE TO HAVE A BREAK AT THAT TIME? IT, IT'S MY OPINION THAT, UH, HAVING A BREAK WITH, UH, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAYS WILL DEFINITELY DELAY THE, THE PROCESS BECAUSE THE MEETINGS ARE, ARE, ARE THE ONE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO, TO PUBLICLY DELIBERATE AND VOTE.

AND SO THAT TAKES AWAY THAT OP THAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALREADY HAVING SOME CHALLENGE IN MEETING THE TIMING BETWEEN GETTING THESE IN TIME, DISCUSSING THEM, AND HAVING THEM PRESENTED TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE BEFORE THE DECISION OR CHAIN COMMAND WAS MADE.

SO I, FOR ONE, UM, NOT INCLINED TO, UH, TO ASK FOR A BREAK, BUT, UM, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PUSH A MOTION, I, I WILL ALLOW IT.

BUT I PERSONALLY, RIGHT NOW, THE, THE, WHAT I'M HOPING FOR IS THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FRIDAY, UM, 3:00 PM ALL 12 MONTHS.

AND AS, AS, AS WE ORIGINALLY STARTED, I MOTION FOR THE FRIDAY MEETING EVERY THIRD FRIDAY FOR ALL 12 MONTHS.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALRIGHT, SO I'LL, IN THAT CASE, I'D LIKE TO CALL A VOTE FOR THAT.

I'LL START WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER GRAVES.

APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER DEPA.

AYE.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER PENA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER RUSSELL? UH, I'M GONNA SAY A OKAY, YOU GO EITHER WAY.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER FRANCO? AYE.

COMMISSIONER EUGENE ABSTAIN.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

AYE, APPROVE.

COMMISSIONER PETERMAN AYE.

AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. AYE.

OKAY, SO I THINK THAT'S, LOOKS LIKE A MOTION PASS.

WE KEEP THINGS AS USUAL AND TRY DO OUR VERY BEST TO GET ON TOP OF THE WORK.

THANK YOU.

NOW WE ARE

[5. Update from the CPRC Year in Review Working Group regarding preparation of the Commission's Year in Review report.]

READY TO WORK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS A WORKING GROUP UPDATE, THE UPDATE OF THE CPRC YEAR IN REVIEW WORKING GROUP, UH, REGARDING PREPARATIONS OF THE COMMISSION'S YEAR IN REVIEW REPORT.

COMMISSIONER JEAN, WOULD YOU CHALLENGE, WOULD YOU, UH, CHAMPION THAT, PLEASE? YES.

SO, UM, WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS.

WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS.

WE HAVE THE LOGISTICS INFORMATION FROM THE, UM,

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AUSTIN POLICE OVERSIGHT STAFF IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS, NUMBER OF CASES REVIEWED TO DATE HAS BEEN 30, UH, NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS OR ACTIONS TAKEN, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN, WE HAD FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS SENT TO A PD.

WE'VE HAD 23, UH, PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL INVITED TESTIMONY.

I'M STILL LOOKING FOR INPUT FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THE, UH, CPRC ANNUAL REVIEW INPUT FORM.

SO FAR WE'VE HAD FOUR, UM, WELL, FIVE INCLUDING MINE, BUT ON ONLY FIVE, UH, SUBMISSIONS, I'D LIKE TO GET AT LEAST HALF OF OUR, UM, OUR COMMISSION TO RESPOND.

AND SO THAT EMAIL WILL GO OUT AGAIN, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING.

ALL OF THIS, YOU CLICK ON IT, IT OPENS UP A FORM AND YOU ANSWER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE, UH, SOME RESPONSE ON THAT.

WE'RE PROBABLY, WE LOOK TO GETTING THIS OUT IN, UH, IN DECEMBER.

WE COULD STILL BE ON THAT SCHEDULE.

UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THIS INPUT IS GONNA BE A REALLY CRITICAL PART.

OKAY.

COMMENT.

UM, UM, DO YOU HAVE THE DATA ON ATTRITION? I, I COMPILED IT AND SENT IT.

DO YOU GET THAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRESENT NOW.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU, OTHERWISE I'LL RESEND IT.

SO SOMEBODY WROTE IT IN THIS ANSWER RIGHT HERE? YEAH, I OKAY.

THAT ME? YEAH.

OKAY.

I, YEAH.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT, IMPACTFUL THING AND IT CONTINUES, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, UM, AS OF NOW.

AND WHO KNOWS BY YOUR DECEMBER REPORT.

WE MAY HAVE OTHERS IF, WHO KNOWS, BUT PLEASE.

I THINK, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A IMPORTANT THING.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU HAD RECEIVED IT.

YES.

11 ORIGINAL SELECTED COMMISSION OF THE 11 ORIGINALLY SELECTED COMMISSIONS, ONLY FIVE ARE PRESENTLY STILL SERVING.

SO THAT MEANS SIX HAVE EITHER, UH, BEEN REMOVED OR VOLUNTARILY REMOVED.

UH, COME OFF THE COMMISSION.

THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF ATTRITION.

YEAH, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT DATE IS UPDATE OUTDATED TOO.

WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT.

THAT DATA IS OUTDATED.

UH, AS, AS, LIKE I SAID, AS WE FOUND OUT TODAY, COMMISSIONER, UH, FLOOD IS, UH, CAN WE JUST CLARIFY IS THAT SINCE THE COMMISSION WAS STOOD UP OR JUST FOR THE 2025? 2026 SINCE THE COMMISSION WAS STOOD UP? SINCE THE COMMISSION WAS STOOD UP? YEAH.

OKAY.

THE REASON IMPORTANT, IT CALLS TO THE DIFFERENT DIFFICULTY OF TRAINING AND RETRAINING PEOPLE AND HAVING A, A, A, A GROUP JAIL AND BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND, UH, ATTRITION HAS BEEN IMPACTFUL.

SO, UH, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

I DO HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR THE CPRC ANNUAL REVIEW.

ARE, WILL THESE IN PERFORM ANSWERS BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PUBLISHING OR WILL THIS REMAIN AN INTERNAL DOCUMENT? 'CAUSE WE RECEIVED A COPY OF IT NOW, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THIS WILL BE POSTED ONLINE.

IT WILL, IT'S USED, IT'LL BE USED TO INFORM THE REPORT, THE ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, THIS IS, I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE EITHER WAY.

NO.

THIS, I THINK THIS IS INTENDED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S THE, THE DOCUMENT IS INTENDED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE INPUT FROM COMMISSIONERS.

OH, OKAY.

WHAT, I GUESS WHAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT IT NEEDS THE INPUT FROM ALL OF US AS BEST POSSIBLE.

THAT WOULD BE SUM UP IN THE DOCUMENT.

DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY CARLOS GRAVE SAID THIS RIGHT.

AND SO FORTH.

BUT THE, THE WHOLE DATA AND THE RAW DATA AND THE PICTURE SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE PUBLISH.

BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ANONYMOUS, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID WHAT.

AH, OKAY.

.

THAT'S WHY I JUST, I JUST TOLD YOU WHO SAID MY BAD CATCH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY EASY HERE.

.

YES.

MY DNA IS THERE, BUT, OKAY.

THE DATA, DATA GUY.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK THAT,

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

UM, COVERS THE WORKING GROUP AND I GUESS NOW WE HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANY PROPOSED FUTURE AGENDA? YES.

YEAH.

UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM, MAKE AN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR HOW WOULD I DO THAT? IS IT A ITEM THAT YOU ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS IN OUR NEXT, IN YOUR NEXT MEETING? IT'S SOMETHING I WANNA SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT MEETING.

YEAH.

OR AT A FUTURE MEETING.

THAT'S FINE.

IT'S A TOPIC.

OKAY.

FOR A FUTURE MEETING? YES.

OKAY.

TOPIC FOR A FUTURE MEETING IS SHARE ANNOUNCED THE ACCEPTANCE OF NOMINATIONS FOR THE FIRST RESPONDER FOUR-WAY TEST AWARD, UH, HOSTED BY THE ROTARY CLUB OF AUSTIN.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING.

THANKS.

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OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? UH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

UH, DEPUTY DR.

MATOS, IF THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE NICKOL TRAINING WAS FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING OR THE DECEMBER MEETING FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

I THINK IT WAS THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

BECAUSE YOU WERE, YOU WOULD GET BACK IN TIME PRIOR TO THE, THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

SO I JUST WANNA PUT ON RECORD FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR NOVEMBER AND UPDATES ON THE TRAINING THAT COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL BE ATTENDING.

UM, AND DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE BRINGING, BRINGING BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER PENA, I MEAN COMMISSIONER, UH, FRANCO.

THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE PAST MINUTES THAT WE HAVE IT ON THERE.

SO DO YOU WANT US SOLICIT AGAIN OR IN THE NUMBER MEETING? YEAH, YOU HAD ALREADY REQUESTED THAT TO BE ON THERE, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE PUT IT ON NOVEMBER MEETING.

YEAH, JUST FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER ITEMS? OKAY.

OKAY.

WITH IS THAT'S THE CASE.

I THINK I WANT SOME MOTION TO, TO, UH, ADJOURN.

ADJOURN.

SECONDS SECOND.

OKAY.

IT'S 3 39 AND THE CPRC MEETING OF OCTOBER IS ENDED.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.