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OKAY, LET'S KICK IT OFF THEN.

IT IS

[Call to Order]

ONE OF 3:00 PM ON FRIDAY, MAY 15TH, AND THIS IS THE MAY EDITION OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

UH, I'M FILLING IN FOR MARIO RIGHT NOW.

HE'LL BE JOINING LATER TO, UH, CONTINUE CHAIRING THE MEETING.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE GET TO THE AGENDA ITEMS. I WANTED TO NOTE THAT UH, ITEM TUESDAY ON THE AGENDA ABOUT STREET IMPACT FEE HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL JUNE.

UM, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE POSTING NOTICE, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC ABOUT THAT ITEM WAS THAT'LL BE PUT OFF UNTIL JUNE.

AND SIMILARLY WE HAVE ITEM TWO EIGHT BACK TO US TONIGHT BECAUSE OF A SIMILAR ISSUE.

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UH, AND ABOUT THAT WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ITEMS AND I WANTED TO GAUGE THE COMMISSION'S INTEREST IN DISCUSSING A TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKERS TODAY.

UH, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, I THINK WE HAVE ALMOST 30 SIGNED UP CURRENTLY TO TALK.

UH, WE GOT MORE THAN A HUNDRED PAGES OF BACKUP IN THE FORM OF LETTERS, UH, REGARDING THE ISSUE.

UH, I'VE SEEN THE SPEAKER LIST OF NUMBER OF THE SPEAKERS ARE SIMILARLY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I DON'T WANT TO PROHIBIT THEM FROM SPEAKING, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND I ALSO, UH, WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME.

SO, UM, IS THERE INTEREST IN, IN LIMITING OR, UH, PUTTING A SPECIFIC LIMIT ON FOCUS TIME DIFFERENT THAN OUR TYPICAL, UH, THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR SPEAKERS? SO WHAT DID YOU HAVE IN MIND? MAYBE A MINUTE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT WE HAD SO MUCH, UH, IN THE FORDHAM FORM OF LETTERS, UM, AND ESPECIALLY MANY OF THE LETTERS, UM, THAT EXACTLY THE SAME THING, WHICH IS FINE, BUT I IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE SAME THING.

YEAH, I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

THAT'S A LOT OF SPEAKERS.

YEAH.

I AGREED.

WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION.

YEAH, PLEASE DO.

JUST SO THAT WE CAN FORMALLY DO THIS.

I MOVED, I SOMEONE FOR UNCLE MOVE THAT WE LIMIT THE TIME PER SPEAKERS TO ONE MINUTE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING.

AND I'LL SECOND THAT MIKE WILLFULLY.

OKAY.

FRANCO MOTION WILLFULLY SECOND.

UH, EMILY, WE'RE GOING TO DO VOTES ONE AT A TIME, CORRECT? YES.

UM, COMMISSIONER RUENA? YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

SORRY.

MY HEADSET HAS AN INSET IN VERSA.

MUTE BUTTON.

I VOTE AYE.

ALRIGHT, I'M A I UH, COMMISSIONER, WHETHER IT BE HI, CAN YOU HEAR COMMIT, COMMIT COMMISSIONER ALVARADO? AYE.

COMMISSIONER SUMMERS.

OKAY.

WHO'S JUST SPEAKING? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT I'M MY EYE.

I'M SO SORRY.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FRANCO.

I AND MICHELLE ARE WILLFULLY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

SO ONE MINUTE FOR SECRETS TODAY AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY SIGNING UP TO SPEAK, BUT ALSO WANT TO KEEP THIS MOVING TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN.

THIS IS, WE'VE GOT YOU.

OH, COMMISSIONER DAVIS, DID WE RECORD YOUR VOTE? OH, I'M SORRY.

ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? SO THERE'S EIGHT ZERO ZERO ON THAT.

THAT'S APPROVED ON THE SPEAKERS.

UH, SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA

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ITEM ONE, WHICH IS THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 10TH MEETING? I'LL MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THEM.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AND WILLFULLY MOTION FRANCO SECONDS AGAIN.

UH, CAN I TAKE YOUR MOTION AND YOUR SECOND AS EYES? YES.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER ALVARADO.

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AYE.

COMMISSIONER SUMMERS.

HI.

MISSION OR WHETHER IT BE EMISSION ARENAS.

MR. DAVIS.

HI.

AND I'M A YEAH, I ALSO ATE THE ZERO AGAIN THERE.

UM,

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SO NOW WE ARE TO NEW BUSINESS AND ITEM A, THERE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY THEY CATION, UH, REGARDING 572 SQUARE FEET OF ALLEY ABUTTING 599TH STREET, UH, POSTED FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

AND, UH, STAFF IS LISTED AS MICHELLE SMITH FROM OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR HER WHILE WE WERE LOGGING ON SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE CORRECT.

I'M EMILY SMITH JUMPING IN HERE.

UM, I BELIEVE KIM VASQUEZ FROM OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES IS ON THE LINE, BUT I DID WANT TO CLARIFY FIRST THAT WE WERE DIRECTED BY THE CITY TO TAKE ALL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE TOP OF THE MEETING.

SO I HAD A 22 BOOKS, I THINK, REGISTERED TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM, TWO A AND THREE BOOKS REGISTER TO SPEAK IN ADVANCE FOR ITEM TO BE.

UM, SO I PROPOSE THE CHAIR CALL ALL OF THOSE NAMES.

UM, WHERE SHE, YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, ONCE, YEP.

YOU JUST WANT ME TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST ONE OF THE TIME? EMILY? YES, THEY'RE LISTED IN THE ORDER RECEIVED THE REQUEST.

GOT IT.

UH, SO THESE WILL BE, WE'VE GOT 22 NAMES FOR ITEM , WHICH WE'LL GO THROUGH FIRST AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE FOR ITEMS TO BE, UH, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THOSE TWO ITEMS. SO TWO A ON THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION.

UH, FIRST STEP IS TAYLOR WOOD.

HELLO.

YOU'LL HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, HELLO EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS TAYLOR WOOD.

I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH HUSH BLACKWELL AND I REPRESENT THE TYNDALL OR SOME LIKE TO THINGS COMMISSIONER FOR LONG MUSIC SOME YEARS TIME TODAY.

UM, AND JUMPING RIGHT IN, I AM CALLING TO OBJECT TO THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.

UM, THE MAIN CONCERN I'M THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT THIS VACATION WITH FISH, THE PROPERTY LINE DOC BY ABOUT 10 FEET, UM, MAINLY THE APPLICANT'S BUILDING WOULD BE EVEN CLOSER TO PORTIONS OF THE TYNDALL.

UM, THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN KIND OF THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT WILL INCREASE THE RISK OF FIRE STRUCTURE JUMPING.

UM, IN ANY SCENARIO, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S VERY SCARY, BUT PARTICULARLY HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE HOUSING SENIORS.

UM, WE DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE TAKING ACTIONS THAT WILL INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF A FIRE SPREAD, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE ACCESS ROAD WHICH IS NARROW, CONGESTED DEAD-END.

UM, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY POINT OUT THAT THE APPLICANT AND PARTY STATED THAT THIS VACATION IS NOT NECESSARY PRECISELY IN APPROVAL.

THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY THEM ON TUESDAY'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO I THINK THIS IS A SITUATION DEFINITELY WHERE THE DEVELOPER BUILDING PREFERENCES NEED TO BE BALANCED WITH THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND CLEARLY WE THINK THE VALLEY SHOULD NOT BE VACATED.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE ALLEGATION.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, SORRY.

AS I GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN A TIMER AND THE LIST.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LYDIA CLAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

PLEASE CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME.

YES, THANKS LYDIA.

PERFECT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS LYDIA CLAY.

I OWN UNIT FIVE 26 AND THE TYNDALL WHICH FACES SOUTH.

MY VIEW WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE LOPEZ TOWER, BUT THE SAFETY OF MYSELF AND NUMEROUS OTHER RESIDENTS WOULD.

I'M A STAUNCH ADVOCATE FOR DENSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I HAVE WORKED TO BUILD AND DEVELOP BOTH, BUT THIS IS A TRULY UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE I MUST SPEAK IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO ITEM TWO.

A I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO PLEASE PLAY THE SIX SECOND VIDEO OF AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON WEDNESDAY IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT LOCATION ON EIGHTH NINTH STREET, WHICH WAS PROVIDED TO UTC, UH, BY CYNTHIA NELSON, ANOTHER SPEAKER.

UM, THE CLOSE PROXIMITY BETWEEN THE REAR OF THE PROPOSED LOPEZ TOWER IN TYNDALL WOULD BE ASSISTED BY THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.

VACATION WOULD FURTHER EXACERBATE THE FIRE RISK FOR BOTH BUILDINGS, WHICH WILL COLLECTIVELY HOUSE NEARLY 300 PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE MOST VULNERABLE OF OUR POPULATION, MOBILITY IMPAIRED SENIOR CITIZENS.

AFTER WATCHING THIS VIDEO I ASKED YOU, TC, HOW ARE EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO ACCESS A THREE-SIDED BLOCKS BUILDING AT THE END OF A 260 FOOT LONG DEAD END STREET WITH INADEQUATE TURNING RADIUS? PLEASE VOTE NO OR TO POSTPONE A VOTE ON THE ALLEYWAY VACATION, UH, UNTIL UTC

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IN THE CITY CAN ASSURE RESIDENTS OF OUR COLLECTIVE SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF FIRST RESPONDERS.

I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW THE VIDEO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU LYDIA.

UH, COMMISSIONERS, THAT VIDEO WAS POSTED IN THE BACKUP.

IT'S ALSO IN THE MATERIAL THAT EMILY HAD A GOOGLE DRIVE FOR US BEFORE THEN.

LIKE LYDIA SAID, IT WAS EXPECTANCE AND IT WAS JUST UP ON OUR SCREENS HERE.

UM, SO HOPE EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT MATHIAS.

I AM HERE AT MR. COMMISSIONER, THERE YOU GO.

READY? CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M MATT MATHIAS.

I AM AN OWNER OF THE TYNDALL.

MOST VOTES ON REMNANT ALLEYWAY REALLY DON'T MEAN MUCH IN THIS CASE.

YOUR DECISION HAS DIRE CONSEQUENCES.

THE VACATION OF THIS ALLEY ALLOWS A DANGEROUS BUILDING TO BE BUILT THAT WILL PUT LIVES OF SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS, OUR SENIOR CITIZENS AT RISK.

THIS IS NOT CONJECTURE.

THIS IS A FACT THAT ALLIE VACATION ALLOWS A SEVEN LEVEL WOOD-FRAME BUILDING TO BE BUILT AT THE END OF A DEAD END STREET WITHOUT A TURNAROUND IN PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY IN THE BACKYARD OF A HISTORIC HOME, WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE CITY FOR SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE USE.

TODAY YOU SIT AS A JURY WITH LIVES AT STAKE, NOT JUST TO VOTE ON AN ALLEYWAY.

AS YOU VOTE, THINK OF THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRANDMOTHER BEING TRAPPED ON THE SIXTH FLOOR OF A BURNING WOOD FRAME BUILDING THAT YOU ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD AS CURRENTLY DESIGNED BY GIVING AWAY THIS ALLEYWAY.

VOTE NO ON THIS ALLEY VACATION.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

IT'S BAD POLICY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, NEXT IS CYNTHIA NELSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

TODAY I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE TANGLE CONDOS, WHICH ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ALLEY BEING DISCUSSED AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ASSOCIATION OF 180 HOMES.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE VACATION OF THE ALLEY.

THE PROPOSED TOWER WOULD CREATE A DANGEROUS AMOUNT OF CONGESTION AND DIFFICULT ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

WE EXPERIENCED THIS ISSUE EARLIER THIS WEEK AND I PROVIDED PICTURES AND VIDEO DEMONSTRATING THIS FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AS MENTIONED BY LYDIA CLAY.

I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE JUMPING.

IF THERE WERE A FIRE AND REALISTIC ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, NED BUILDING WAS ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS PROJECT AND WE PUT TOO MANY PEOPLE AT RISK.

I ASK YOU TO POST THE VACATION OF THE ALLEY OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE PROJECT IS REVIEWED.

FURTHER LOOKING AT THE SITE, THE PROPOSED WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE AND THE PROXIMITY TO OTHER STRUCTURES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTS REMARKS.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS GERMANE, WILLIAM.

OKAY.

HELLO MICHELLE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO MY NAME IS DR JERMAINE WILLIAMS. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF THE TYNDALL AND ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT BELIEVES THAT ALL OF US ARE IN IT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VIEWS ARE UNOBSTRUCTED, I ALWAYS SEE THE COURTYARD AND THAT'S GONNA BE MY VIEW FOREVER.

UM, THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN TERMS OF THE FIRE, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE FIRES DO HAPPEN.

IT'S NOT JUST IF IT'S BUT, BUT WHEN, BUT THEN ALSO SINCE YOU GUYS ARE THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND YOU'RE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOBILITY IMPAIRED.

ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I SEE IS THAT BY ALLOWING THIS PROJECT TO GO FORWARD, THAT THESE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOBILITY IMPAIRED WON'T NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO USE THE BUS OR THE RAIL SYSTEMS AS DESIGNED.

AND IF THE SOLUTION IS METRO ACCESS, AS YOU SAW IN THE VIDEOS, METRO ACCESS CAN'T EVEN GET DOWN THERE AND TURN AROUND IN THAT AREA.

SO THAT ALSO MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO EVEN USE THAT SYSTEM.

SO IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS, IT'S JUST REALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA, NOT A GOOD PROJECT, AND NOT GOING TO SERVE OUR LOW INCOME SENIORS.

SO PLEASE VOTE NO ON EVALUATE.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DARREN MILLER.

HI, HOW ARE YOU DOING? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD DEAL.

UH, HI.

MY NAME'S DARREN MILLER.

UH, MY WIFE LEE AND I LIVE IN UNIT SIX OH FIVE AT THE TINDALL.

UH, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY.

UH, WE

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ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE MANY SAFETY ISSUES ALREADY MENTIONED.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO REITERATE THOSE AND WHY YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.

UM, THE PROPOSED SEVEN STORY BUILDING WILL ONLY BE FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF 15 FEET FROM PORTIONS OF THE TYNDALL.

YOU KNOW, NO TOWERS SHOULD BE BUILT IN BACKYARDS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON DEAD END STREETS IN AUSTIN.

FURTHERMORE, AUSTIN HAS ALWAYS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A PROGRESSIVE GREEN CITY THAT WE ALL ALL ARE PROUD TO CALL HOME.

THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THOSE ASPIRATIONS.

WE CERTAINLY DO SUPPORT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT HAS TO BE SAFE, NOT CREATE MANY MORE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAN IT SOLVES.

BESIDES THOSE ISSUES, THIS PROJECT INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF FIRE STRUCTURE JUMPING IN WHERE CREATE FALL HAZARDS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.

I WOULD IMPLORE EVERYBODY TO WALK THE SITE.

YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS.

THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD UNDERSTAND ALL THIS IF YOU HADN'T ACTUALLY GONE OUT THERE AND LOOKED.

SO I IT, IT WOULD MATTER TO YOU, I BELIEVE.

SO.

WE RESPECTFULLY ASKED YOU OUT.

NO, ON VACATION.

THE ALLEYWAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MR. MILLER.

OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER IS JOE KEELAN.

HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JOE KEELAN.

I'M A RESIDENT OF UNIT FIVE OH TWO BASED IN THE COURTYARD AT THE KENDALL AND I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.

UM, FOR THE PENDLE.

I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY AND STRONG OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED VACATION OF THE LOA.

UH, TO START.

I AM A SUPPORTIVE URBAN DENSITY MEASURES AND INCREASED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE PROMINENT HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN AUSTIN.

UM, IT NOT ONLY PUTS THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF CURRENT RESIDENTS HERE AT THE TYNDALL AS WELL AS THE ONLY EAST SIDE, BUT ALSO FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE, THE, THE COMMENTARY THAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM SOME OTHER RESIDENTS AS WELL AS, UM, PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE TYNDALL PROJECT AND ON THE SAFETY CONCERN.

I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, MAINTAIN SAFETY MEASURES, UM, PROTECT THE MOST VULNERABLE OF OUR POPULATION.

UM, AND ENCOURAGE YOU AS WELL TO, UM, VISIT THE SITE BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION AND, AND STRONGLY URGE YOU TO VOTE.

NO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE RESIDENTS HAVE EASY ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES FOR SHOPPING, OUTDOOR SPACES AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

THESE AREN'T READILY AVAILABLE, UM, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE BUILDING.

AND I FEEL IT'S, UM, IT'S IN SERVICE TO THOSE, UH, RESIDENTS.

UM, AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO VISIT THE SITE AS WELL AS VOTE NO ON THE VACATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MS KALEN.

NEXT SPEAKER IS HANNAH FEAR? I'M GETTING WORRIED THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE.

ALRIGHT, I WILL NOTE THAT THEN WE'LL GIVE ONE MORE CALL FOR HER AT THE END.

UH, HOW ABOUT BRIAN PERRY? TINA, SORRY IF I BUTCHERED THAT LAST NAME.

I'M HEARING THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE EITHER.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, HOW ABOUT PATRICK O'SULLIVAN? THINK I GOT THAT NAME RIGHT OUT HERE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

KEVIN DUNLAP WOULD BE YOUR YEARLY? YES, AGAIN.

OKAY, GREAT.

I THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I'M KIND OF DUNLAP.

I'M A RESIDENT AT THE KENDALL, UH, THREE 27.

MY UNIT FACES SOUTHWEST SO I WOULDN'T SEE A NEW PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED.

UH, MY CONCERN IS MAINLY AROUND THE SAFETY AS WELL.

FIRE SAFETY SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ALLEY CURRENTLY EXISTS AS A SAFEGUARD BETWEEN THE TWO EXISTING PROPERTIES.

UM, THE PROPOSED PROJECT RELIES ON REDUCING THIS, UH, THIS BUFFER, UH, AND THE SPACE ALREADY HAS VERY LIMITED FIRE AND EMERGENCY ACCESS.

SO THIS ULTIMATELY INCREASES THE RISK OF FIRE DAMAGE BETWEEN BOTH PROPERTIES I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER.

FIRE STRUCTURE JUMPING IS ALSO DEFINITELY A SERIOUS RISK GIVEN.

PRETTY CLOSE PROXIMITY IS PLAN.

IT'S ABOUT FIVE FEET FROM THE FEDERAL POVERTY LINE AND THERE'S ALREADY NO REAL MECHANISM FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO TURN AROUND, UM, OR GET INTO NINTH STREET, WHICH IS A DEAD END ROAD.

AND THEN THIS ALLEY WOULD BE A FURTHER DEAD END, EVEN SMALLER.

AND SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THIS PROJECT ARE ALSO GOING TO DEPEND ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

BUT IF YOU CAN'T GET A FIRE TRUCK DOWN THAT STREET, YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET A BUS OR ANY SORT OF UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DOWN THAT STREET AS WELL.

AND YOU KNOW, THE CLOSEST PUBLIC TRANSIT STOP AT THE MOMENT, IT WOULD REQUIRE THOSE RESIDENTS TO CROSS.

UH, SEVENTH STREET BASICALLY IS A FOUR LANE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

SO IT'S NOT VERY GOOD SPOTS FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, REGISTER MY, MY OBJECTION TO NO ONE THAT CAN BE OUT OF THE WAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

MR. DUNLAP.

HOW ABOUT JUSTIN DOULA? I'M

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HERE.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? IF YOU CAN.

GREAT.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR HOLDING THIS MEETING TO HEAR ALL OF OUR CONCERNS.

SO I'M HERE TODAY TO PROTEST VACATIONING THE ALLEY, THE LOPEZ PROJECT.

ESSENTIALLY THE LAYOUT OF THE PROJECT ITSELF LIMITS TRANSPORTATION FOR RESIDENTS.

I MEAN THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN PARKING SPACES FOR 24 UNITS, AND THE NEAREST PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY ON SEVENTH AND 11TH STREET, WHICH REQUIRE THE ELDERLY TO CROSS DANGEROUS TRAFFIC.

IN ADDITION, THE PROJECT IS A HIGH RISE MADE WITH WOODEN FRAMES AND SO THE WOODEN FRAME PRESENTS A FIRE HAZARD TO THE BUILDINGS, OLDER RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE IMPAIRED.

IN ADDITION, IT ALSO PRESENTS FIRE HAZARD SAFETY TO US.

AND A RESIDENT TOO ARE ONLY JUST A FEW YARDS AWAY.

IN ADDITION, BECAUSE THE PROJECT WOULD SURROUND THE LOPEZ HOUSE, THE WOODEN FRAMES INCREASE THE RISK OF BURNING DOWN THE HISTORIC LOPEZ HOUSE.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL THAT WE VOTE NO ON VACATION IN THE ALLEY AND FOR THE LOPEZ PROJECT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THIS HISTORIC SITE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR GABE.

UM, MEGAN SHANNON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MEGAN SHANNON.

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE TYNDALL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPER.

MY DAY JOB IS TO PLAN AND PERMIT AND DEVELOP THE RBJ CENTER REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH INCLUDES A TOWER FOR SENIOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I'M EXPERIENCED WITH THE CITY'S FIRE INSURANCE ROTATION.

AND RIGHT AWAY REVIEW PROCESS.

WE AT THE TYNDALL HAVE MANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE PROPOSED LOPEZ TOWER IN RELATION TO THE TYNDALL, PARTICULARLY IF THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IN QUESTION CURRENTLY PROVIDES IS LOST TO NO AVAIL.

WE HAVE SOUGHT SPECIFICS FROM THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER ON FIRE SUPPRESSION PLANNING AND HOW FIRE AND SAFETY VEHICLES AND PERSONNEL WOULD OVERCOME THE CONGESTION ON THE DEAD END STREET THAT THE TOWER IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED ON.

THE CITY'S PERMITTING WEBSITE DOES NOT HAVE THE PLANS POSTED.

OUR REQUEST TO MEET WITH THE CITY FIRE REVIEWER IS UNANSWERED.

WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPOSED TOWER TO THE TYNDALL THAT ARE UNANSWERED, QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE SUPPRESSION, EMERGENCY ACCESS, AND THE ROLE OF THE ALLEY AS BUFFER DESERVE TO BE ANSWERED IN DETAIL BEFORE IT VACATION COULD BE REASONABLY CONSIDERED.

THE EXISTING ALLEY IS PUBLIC PROPERTY AND THE PUBLIC INTERESTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN LIGHT OF ITS REQUESTED VACATION FOR A PRIVATE USE.

I ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST THE VACATION OF THIS, ALLIE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MEGAN.

NICOLE MEAD, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS IN THE CALLA MEET.

I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH HUSH BLACKWELL REPRESENTING THE 10 DAWN.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.

I WANT TO START BY SAYING I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.

THIS DEVELOPER ALWAYS DOES GET PROJECTS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND THIS LOCATION IS NOT A GOOD PROJECT.

IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF SENIORS BEING DOWNTOWN, BUT THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS PUT SENIORS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE MOBILITY ISSUES AND HARMS AWAY THE LACK OF ACCESS TO THIS PROJECT AND THE LACK OF CONNECTIVITY.

MAKE THIS PROJECT REALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR SEVEN STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL, ESPECIALLY RESIDENTIAL FOR SENIORS.

NO STAKEHOLDERS AS THE LAST SPEAKER SAID, HAVE SEEN THE CURRENT PLANS FOR THE PROJECT.

WE'VE REQUESTED THEM SEVERAL TIMES, BUT AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, THE DEVELOPERS MADE THE COMMENT AND STATEMENT THAT THE ALLEY VACATION IS NOT NEEDED FOR THEIR PROJECTS.

I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER WHY THE CITY WOULD GIVE THEM THIS PROPERTY.

IT IS PUBLIC PROPERTY AFTER ALL, AND THE DEVELOPER IN FACT IS ASKING TO TAKE THE PROPERTY FOR NO AT ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE REALIZED THE CITY'S POLICY IS TO NOT HOLD ON TO THESE ODD PIECES OF RIGHT OF WAY THAT DON'T OFFER GOOD CONNECTIONS TO EXISTING ROADWAYS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THE REALLY, REALLY TINY SIZE OF THIS LOT AND INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT PLANNED ON IT REALLY DO CALL FOR SO MUCH AVAILABLE SPACE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE URGE THE COMMISSION TO PLEASE REJECT THIS REQUEST FOR ALLEY VACATION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU NICOLA.

UH, DON MORROW, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I WANT TO THANK THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING ME TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS RELATED TO THE VACATION OF THIS ALLEY.

I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO VOTE NO ON THIS ISSUE.

I'M AN OWNER OF A UNIT AND THE TYNDALL WHERE MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY LIVE AND I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT MY FAMILY'S SAFETY.

IF YOU VOTE YES TO VACATE THIS ALLY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE DEVELOPER STATED THAT THE VACATION TO THIS ALLEY WAS NOT NECESSARY FOR HIS PROJECT TO CONTINUE.

IF THAT IS THE CASE, WHY GIVE AWAY A PIECE OF PUBLIC PROPERTY TODAY WITH OVER $50,000

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OF VALUE RIGHT NOW? WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT I 35 WILL BE MODIFIED AND EXPANDED.

THIS ALLEY INTERSECTS AGE 35 THE EXPANSION PLANS AND PROJECT DESIGN FOR PRICE 35 AT THIS TIME ARE UNDECIDED AT THE VERY LEAST IN THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.

THIS DECISION SHOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL THOSE EXPANSION PLANS ARE FINALIZED.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GIVE AWAY THIS PROPERTY TODAY WHEN THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE CITY WOULD NEED TO REPURCHASE IT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE FOR AGE 35 EXPANSION.

THIS ALLEY VACATION IS REQUESTED FOR LOW INCOME SENIOR HOUSING.

IN POINT OF FACT, THE VERY PEOPLE WE ARE TRACKING, PLEASE WRAP UP.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IN VERY IN POINT OF FACT, THE VERY PEOPLE WE'RE TRYING TO HELP WILL BE THE PEOPLE WE PUT IN MOST DANGER.

PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, BOB GAS IS THE NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS BOB GASS.

I'M ONE OF THE PARTNERS.

THE TYNDALL PARTNERS HAVE WORKED IN RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

IF LOPEZ TOWER IS BUILT, IT'D BE A DANGEROUS, POSSIBLY PRECEDENT SETTING FIRST FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, ALLOWING A SEVEN STORY TOWER IN THE BACKYARD OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

PERCHED IN A VERY DANGEROUS LOCATION ON A VERY STEEP HILL, SURROUNDED BY FOUR AND FIVE STORY BUILDINGS AT THE END OF A NARROW STREET THAT IS ALMOST ALWAYS CONGESTED WITH CARS, DUMPSTERS, AND DELIVERY TRUCKS.

VACATION AT THE SALLY, UH, ALLOWS A LOPEZ TOWERED.

IT'S POSITIONED AS YOU KNOW, VERY CLOSE TO THE TINDALL AND CREATES A FIRE HAZARD FOR BOTH RESIDENTS OF BOTH BUILDINGS.

BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A GOOD IDEA.

BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SENIORS IS A PARTICULARLY GOOD IDEA.

DOUBLING THIS TOWER IN THE BACKYARD OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS A PARTICULARLY BAD.

I DO URGE YOU TO VOTE.

NO.

THANK YOU, MR. YES.

UH, ORLANDO KAWASAKIS NOT HERE.

ABOUT WILL JOHNSON NOT HERE.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT MATT MATHIAS.

SIGNED UP AGAIN.

NEXT, I ASSUME THERE'S NOT TWO OF YOU I'M HEARING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, ERIC BROWN, NOT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

AND TERRY MITCHELL? NOT HERE.

OKAY, GOT BRENNER HERE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLIANCE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I'M SCOTT BREWER, OWNER OF TYNDALL THREE 36 I'M 42 YEARS OF COMMERCIAL INSURANCE BROKER WORKING WITH COMPLEX BUSINESS PROPERTY AND CASUALLY INSURANCE.

I WORK WITH RISK LOGIC.

THAT'S THE PREEMINENT INDEPENDENT FIRE PROTECTION ENGINEERING FIRM IN THAT STAGE.

STATES RICH CARDAMON, ENGINEER OR RISK MANAGER FOR RISK LOGIC.

REVIEW THE 15 FOOT DISTANCE TO THE TYNDALL SHOULD THE VACATION BE APPROVED WITH A SIX STORY FRAME CONSTRUCTION FOR SENIOR LIVING OCCUPANCY WITH THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODES WITH AUSTIN AMENDMENTS.

THIS BUILDING FALLS UNDER IFC CODE R TWO WHICH REQUIRES IT TO BE SPRINKLERED AND IF NO VARIANCE RECOMMENDS A FIREWALL BETWEEN GETTING THE TYNDALL BECAUSE A FIRE MIGHT EASILY JUMP 15 FEET, HE ADDED SENIOR LIVING IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE OCCUPANCY.

IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, THE PROPOSED PROJECT REPRESENTS ADDITIONAL RISKS AT TYNDALL FAMILIES AND A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.

AND AT THE LOPEZ, PLEASE VOTE.

NO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL THAT WAS OUR LIST FOR ITEM TWO A.

I'M GOING TO GIVE A CHANCE TO ANYBODY WHO WE CALLED AND WAS NOT READY AT THE TIME JUST TO SPEAK UP NOW IF THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE OTHERWISE.

THAT'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, ITEM TO A.

ALRIGHT.

AND WE'RE GOING

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TO MOVE TO TO B.

THIS IS UM, THE

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UH, SPEED LIMIT MODIFICATIONS ITEM AND THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ADAM GREENFIELD.

ADAM ARE YOU THERE? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GIVE HIM A SHOT AT THE END OF THEN.

AND THE SECOND SPEAKER SIGNED UP IS HAYDEN WALKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

CAN YOU CONFIRM? YOU CAN HEAR ME? YES WE CAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE END OF THE PHONE.

UM, MY NAME IS HAYDEN BLACK WALKER.

UM, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE TESTER ADVISORY COUNCIL SINCE IT WAS FORMED IN 2014.

IN FACT, I WAS THE ORIGINAL CHAIR AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON VISION ZERO ISSUES AND, AND HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR VISION ZERO FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

UM, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT SPEED IS A HUGE, MAKES THE DIFFERENCE.

REALLY BETWEEN A TRAFFIC CRASH THAT MIGHT CAUSE A MINOR INJURY AND LIFE ALTERING INJURIES OR EVEN FATALITIES, UM, FROM TRAFFIC.

UM, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT FRIENDS.

I'VE LOST THE TRAFFIC, BUT TODAY AT NOON I WATCHED MY DAUGHTER'S COLLEGE GRADUATION FROM MY COMPUTER WHILE SHE WATCHED IT FROM HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY FROM HER COMPUTER.

AND THE THING THAT STRUCK ME IS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GIVEN UP, EXCUSE ME.

UM, IN THIS CRISIS, THIS HEALTH CRISIS, THE MANY, MANY WAYS THAT WE'VE GIVEN UP OUR REGULAR LIVES.

AND YOU KNOW, I COMPARE THAT TO THE HEALTH CRISIS WE HAVE WITH TRAFFIC.

I THINK SPEED MANAGEMENT IS SUCH A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT.

AND WHILE WAS COVEN 19, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS IN OUR TOOLBOX FOR TRAFFIC FATALITIES AND SERIOUS INJURIES.

AND THE SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT STEP.

UM, IN ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS, I THINK WE CAN ALL HOPEFULLY AS A SOCIETY AGREE THAT WE COULD GIVE UP A FEW SECONDS OR MAYBE EVEN A FEW MINUTES OF TRAVEL TIME IN ORDER TO PRESERVE HUMAN LIFE.

SO, UM, I WOULD JUST CONGRATULATE, UM, THE STAFF ON PUTTING TOGETHER A REALLY, REALLY GREAT PLAN WITH A LOT OF RESEARCH AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL VOTE IN FAVOR, UM, AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO, UM, COUNCIL ACTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SHADING NEXT SPEAKER IS .

YEAH.

HELLO.

UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THE PEOPLE LOST THEM.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, COLLIN AND STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS ITEM AND HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU WILL STRONGLY SUPPORT IT.

UM, AND JUST MAKE A COUPLE POINTS.

UM, ONE KEY POINT IS THAT SPEED IS A SAFETY PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE OF ALL MODES IN AUSTIN AND THAT MOST PEOPLE WHO DIE IN CAR CRASHES OR IN CARS.

UM, AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING OR BIKING OR USING A WHEELCHAIR AND PEOPLE IN CARS.

UH, AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL OF US, UM, NOT HAVING TO RISK OUR LIVES WHILE USING THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

UM, AND A COUPLE OTHER JUST, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONWIDE, ALL THE ACRONYMS, THE AND, UM, ASTO AND NETO AND EVERYONE HAS BEEN PUBLISHING REPORTS ABOUT HOW WE'VE MADE MISTAKES ON SPEED AND WE NEED TO FIX THEM.

SO I THINK THERE'S BROAD SUPPORT THAT CITY SUING, UH, AND JUST THE TEXAS STRATEGIC HIGHWAY SAFETY PLAN SPECIFICALLY CALLS FOR MEASURES LIKE WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS DOING NOW.

AND SO, UM, THIS IS PART OF THE STATE'S PLAN TO START SOLVING OUR CRISIS.

IT'S TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS.

SO, UH, UM, I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO CONGRATULATE TO THE STAFF ARE REALLY LEADING THE FAITH ON THIS ISSUE.

SO I HOPE YOU ALL WILL STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS AND SEND IT TO COUNCIL QUICKLY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS SHEA.

UH, ADAM GREENFIELD ARE YOU IN YET? OKAY.

THEN WITH THAT, UH, EMILY CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS OKAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ALL REMAINING OUTSTANDING AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

UM, THEN LET'S MOVE TO UH,

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TO A THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION, UM, AND HEAR FROM STAFF AND UH, CAN BEST GUYS.

THE OFFICE WOULD ROTATE

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SERVICES, UH, TO PRESENT THIS ITEM ITEM TO A CALL NUMBER ONE ZERO ZERO SEVEN SIX DASH ONE NINE ZERO ONE IT IS AN APPLICATION REQUEST TO VACATE 572 SQUARE FEET TRACT OF LAND OUT OF THE LEFTOVER 20 FOOT WIDE ALLEY, WHICH THE ALLEY IS KNOWN AS THE ELLIOTT EAST EIGHTH STREET AND THAT ABUTS THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AT EIGHT OH NINE EAST NINTH STREET.

IT IS AN UNPAVED ALLEY THAT WAS VACATED BACK IN MARCH, UH, 20 MARCH 22ND, 1990 AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THIS REMNANT PIECE THAT WAS LEFT BEHIND THE REMNANT ALLEY, UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO ADD THAT TO THE ADJOINING LAND TO DEVELOP A MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AND STAFF, CITY DEPARTMENTS, PRIVATE UTILITY FRANCHISE HOLDERS HAVE REVIEWED THE VACATION REQUEST AND HAVE GIVEN THEIR SUPPORT TO VACATE THE ALLEY.

UM, AUSTIN WATER UTILITY SUPPORTED THE APPLICATION REQUESTS WITH CONDITIONS AND UH, THIS APPLICATION DID OR WAS, UH, DID RECEIVE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION SUPPORT BACK ON NOVEMBER THE 12TH IN 2019.

IT IS NOW BEING PRESENTED AGAIN BROUGHT BEFORE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IN ORDER TO COMPLETE A RIGHT AWAY DICTATION PROCESS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT.

THE PUBLIC NOTICE HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETED.

UH, THE NOTICE WAS ISSUED ON MARCH 13TH 20 AND THIS YEAR OF THIS OF UH, 2020.

UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S RELATED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY VACATION PROCESS.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE APP, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PROJECT ITSELF, THE APPLICANT NOT HO HAVE TO GO.

THE TWO ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS IS ON THE CALL FOR, FOR THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS.

QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? I HAD A QUESTION.

SO WE HEARD A LOT OF UM, REMARKS ABOUT FIRE SAFETY AND UM, FIREWALLS AND DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

I KNOW THAT OBVIOUSLY IN OUR CITY CODE THERE'S A LOT OF ELEMENTS ABOUT FIRE SAFETY AND NEW BUILDINGS ARE ALWAYS BEING BUILT TO THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF FIRE SAFETY WITH SPRINKLERS AND MULTI, ESPECIALLY MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS HAVE MANY DIFFERENT REGULATIONS THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET WITH THAT.

UM, I WAS CURIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT HOW, I DON'T KNOW THE FIRE MARSHAL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERING EXPERTS ON FIRE SAFETY, UM, HAD TO SPEAK WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY ABOUT SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY ABOUT FIRE SAFETY FOR THE NEW BUILDING AND ALSO FOR ADJOINING BUILDINGS AND MAYBE EMERGENCY, UM, ACCESS TO THE BUILDING FOR OUR RESCUE WORKERS RELATING TO THE, UH, THE, THE FIRE SAFETY CONCERNS.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID APPROVE OR DID SUPPORT THE VACATION REQUESTS WHEN IT, WHEN IT WAS SENT FOR REVIEW.

UM, WE DID REACH OUT OUR OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES REACHED OUT TO A CONSULTING ENGINEER WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION AND TO CONFIRM THE SAFETY IN TERMS OF FIRE ACCESS, EMERGENCY ACCESS.

AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, UH, TO CLARIFY THESE, THESE CONCERNS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE STILL LOOKING INTO THAT IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THESE, THESE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

UM, WE DO HAVE THE, THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW WITH DEVELOPMENT AND, AND PERHAPS THEY CAN ANSWER BETTER ON BEHALF OF THAT, UH, TO ADDRESS THE FIRE CONCERNS.

ONE REAL QUICK CLARIFICATION QUESTION.

I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER.

OUR CHAIR, UM, YOU SAID AFD ALREADY APPROVED THE ALI VACATION.

SO THE CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO ARE THE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING BOUGHT THAT WE JUST HEARD THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT BY THE, THE, UH, SAME CALL IN THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN EARLIER TODAY OR ARE THEY OTHER CONCERNS THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THESE, THESE, UM, CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

BUT WITH REGARDS TO ACCESS AND WHATNOT, IT LOOKS LIKE THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLEARED BY IT OR IT SOUNDS LIKE THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLEARED BY FT.

IT'S THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER CONCERNS THAT HAVE JUST RECENTLY BEEN RAISED THAT THEY'RE LOOKING INTO.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YES.

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OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS APART? MICHAEL? I CONTINUE TRYING.

YEAH.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, SO IF THE DEVELOPERS ON, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP, UH, WAS ABILITY TO GET PROPERTY CATEGORY INSURANCE AND I WANT TO KNOW IF, UM, AS PART OF THEIR REDEVELOPMENT, THEY'VE, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE RISK COMMUNITY AND WILL THEIR PROJECT, UH, BE INSURABLE WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, GIVEN WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER, DO WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER NOW? ARE YOU AVAILABLE OR ABLE TO CHECK ON? YEAH, I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NDC.

THEY, THEY COULDN'T, UH, UH, JOHN IN TODAY.

UM, WE, UH, WE, UH, I CAN SAY THAT THE APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS, IS RELATED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH INDEPENDENT REVIEW WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THE PROJECT MEET ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS WITH SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND BUILDING SEPARATIONS AND OPENING.

AS FAR AS HIGH ACCESS, UH, I DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC ANSWER FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY THIS PROJECT WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PROJECTS THAT MEET CODE REQUIREMENTS.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

THIS IS KEN VASQUEZ.

CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME? THE SCAM? YES.

UM, I DID JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DID GET APPROVED.

THE, THE REQUEST FOR THE ALLEY ACCESS TO VACATE THAT ALLEY PORTION.

SO MY, MY, MY COMMENT ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SO LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS, WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR IS THE, UH, THE PREVIOUS, THE REVIEWER THAT PROVIDED THE APPROVALS, UM, HAS SINCE RETIRED AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THE COMMENTS FROM THAT REVIEWER.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UM, UH, COMMISSIONER ALVARADO.

YEAH.

UM, SO FOR THE DEVELOPER AND UM, REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY, UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY EFFORT ON YOUR PART TO MAYBE TRY AND IMPROVE, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION AND ACCESS CONDITIONS ON THAT STREET? UM, UH, SUCH AS, UH, REDUCING, UH, STREET PARKING OR, UM, FINDING WAYS TO, UM, WIDEN THE STREET OR CREATE A COLDER SACK, SOMETHING TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS WE HEARD BEFORE.

UM, BUT ALSO ALLOWING THE, UH, PROJECT FORWARD.

THIS IS NOT HOW, AGAIN, AS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF GMDC, UH, AGAIN, THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR THE ORPHAN ALLIE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY SAY THAT FOR THE SITE PUNDIT ITSELF, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATIVE LEAGUE, A MINISTRATIVE LEE APPROVED ATD AND TRANSPORTATION HAVE A REVIEW EXTENSIVELY AND WE DID COME TO SOME DISCUSSION RELATED TO REQUESTING NO PARKING ALONG THE STREET, UH, OF EIGHT, NINE TO, UH, PROVIDE MORE ROOM WITH QUITE A BIT OF IMPROVEMENT TO THE DRIVEWAY.

UH, AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE SITE PERMIT ITSELF.

BUT AS FAR AS THE ALLEY AND THE STREET, I MEAN WE BUILDING ON THE SAME STREET THAT THE EMILY PROJECT JUST TO THE NORTH AND THE TYNDALL PROJECT TO THE SALVAGE IS MUCH BIGGER, WHICH WAS NOT REQUIRED TO IMPROVE THE STREET.

SO AT THIS TIME THE SITE PLAN ITSELF IS NOT REQUIRED BY ANY FORM OF TIA TO IMPROVE PUBLIC ROADWAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. FRANCO? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REALLY, I WAS LOOKING AT AN A GOOGLE ON GOOGLE EARTH TRYING TO GET FAMILIAR WITH A LITTLE MORE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A REALLY SMALL PORTION OF THAT OUT THE WAY IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE ENTIRE ALLEY.

AND I THINK I HEARD, UM, THE OFFICER BRUNO STATE SERVICES SAY THAT THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT ALLEY WAS VACATED WAY BACK WHEN.

I WOULD JUST, I'M WONDERING WHAT, WHO, WHO VACATED THAT ALLEY AND WHAT THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT OF THE ORPHAN VALLEY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS THAT INFORMATION, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO SAY SERVICES OR POTENTIALLY THE ENGINEER WHO'S ON THE LINE

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RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF SOMEONE KNOWS THE HISTORY OF THAT ALLEY AND WHAT IT'S BEING USED FOR NOW, I'D BE REALLY INTRIGUED TO KNOW WHAT'S, WHAT'S THERE.

EMILY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE FIELD NOTES ON YOUR SCREEN? AND, AND WHEN I SAY, WHEN I SAY THE ALLEY, I DON'T MEAN THE 572 SQUARE FEET IN QUESTION.

CURRENTLY.

I'M SAYING THE OTHER PORTION OF THE ALLEY, WHICH WAS VACATED PREVIOUSLY.

RIGHT.

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

I'VE ATTEMPTED TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

CAN YOU ALL SEE WHAT I'M SEEING? A PDF MAP? YES.

YEAH.

SO AS EMILY POINTED OUT, THIS IS NOT HOW, AGAIN, UH, I JUST KINDA, UH, ENTER THAT QUESTION.

THE REMAINDER OF THE ALLEY, UH, WAS VACATED BY THE TYNDALL PROJECT.

THAT'S WHERE MAJORITY OF THE TYNDALL BUILDING IS LOCATED ON WHAT WE VACATING IS HALF OF THE ALLEY THAT RUN ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF NOT THE FRONT END, BUT THE BACK OF THIS SIDE.

SO THE OTHER HALF IS WHETHER IT BEEN THE TYNDALL, UH, IS LOCATED ON.

AND UH, SO IT'S ONLY BEEN USED, UH, THE REASON WHY YOU PROBABLY SAW THE CONDITION THAT AUSTIN WATER, UH, PUT ON THERE IS BECAUSE PART OF THAT REMNANT PIECE OF RIGHT AWAY WAS STILL HAVE THE WASTEWATER LINE THAT SERVED THE EXISTING HISTORIC HOUSE.

SO PART OF THE HATING WORK THAT WE GOT TO DO IS TO CONVERT THAT TO IMPROVE THAT WASTEWATER LINE SO THAT CAN SERVE THE NEW PROJECT AND VACATE THAT PUBLIC WASTEWATER LINE.

BUT ALL OF THE REST OF THE ALLEY HAS BEEN VACATED AND USED FOR A PART OF THE TENDER PROJECT.

OKAY.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO, SO THE REMAINING PORTION OF THIS ALLEY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED BY THE TYNDALL PROJECT NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS WHERE WE'D HEARD ALL OF THE PEOPLE TALKING FROM.

OKAY.

JUST MAKING SURE.

MAKING SURE.

YEAH, JUST OTHER NOTES THAT I THINK THE IMAGE THERE IS HELPFUL TO NOTE THAT THIS IS SOUTH, THE SOUTH PART OF THE PROPERTY AND SOUTH OF NINTH STREET.

UM, AND SO ALL OF THAT OTHER PORTION OF VACATED ALLEY TO THE EAST ALSO IS NOW BUILDING OF, UH, THE $10 JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AND ORIENTATION.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL TO KNOW.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? I HAVE TWO THAT I JUST WANT TO BRING UP.

UM, BASED ON COMMENTS WE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE SPEAKERS, ONE WAS, UM, A REQUEST TO HAVE SHARED THE MOST RECENT SITE PLAN WITH THE TINDALL HOA AND JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON WHY THAT HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO OCCUR.

I CAN MENTION THAT THIS IS NOT HOW, AGAIN, UH, THE, I BELIEVE THE FALL IS THROUGH THE, UH, THE OWNERSHIP OF STAFF.

IT'S THE SB, UH, THE APPLICATION FOR THE VACATION IS SEPARATE FROM THE SITE PUNDIT ITSELF.

SO NORMALLY FOR EVERY PROJECT UNTIL THE PROJECT IS APPROVED, THE FILE IS USUALLY NOT UPLOADED TO THE WEBSITE.

UH, I BELIEVE THE FILE, THE PAPER FILE WAS LOST DURING THE CORONA TRANSITION, UH, THAT MAY BE BEST ANSWERED BY THE DSB, UH, STAFF.

UH, AND I DEFER, UH, THE DESIRE TO SHARE THE PLAN THROUGH THE OWNERSHIP OF GMDC, WHICH I THINK REACHED OUT TO SET UP MEETING, DOING A COBIT 19 TIME.

UM, SO THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER I CAN GIVE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

AND THEN ANOTHER SPEAKER HAD MENTIONED THAT THE, THIS VACATION OF THE ALLEY WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR YOUR SITE PLAN OR FOR APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

CAN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT EXACTLY THE GOAL OF THE ALLEY VACATION AND WHAT THAT HELPS YOU ACHIEVE AND ESSENTIALLY WHY GMDC WANTS IT FOR THIS PROJECT? YES, SIR.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

UM, I THINK TO CLARIFY THE STEPS AND WHAT MARK FROM CNBC STATED IS THE PROJECT WAS STILL BEING FEASIBLE WITHOUT THE ALLEY.

AND I THINK THE REASON WHY IT'S NEEDED IS BECAUSE WHAT EVERY SMART HOUSING PROJECT IN TOWN, AND THAT'S, YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS PROJECT WILL BE ON THE EXPENSIVE SIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

MAXIMIZING UNIT COUNT FOR THE BOARD.

HOUSING IS CERTAINLY A VERY, UH, THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE ENTIRE CITY AND I'LL PROJECT AS WELL.

BUT THE TENT, IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE 10 FOOT, THE BUILDING WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET FARCO AND IT WOULD STILL NEED TO SET BACK FIVE FEET MINIMUM AWAY FROM

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THE PROPERTY LINE THAT IS CURRENTLY IS WITH A 10 FOOT.

IT JUST MEANS THAT THE PROJECT CAN BE SLIGHTLY BIGGER SO THAT THEY'RE MORE, YOU KNOW, AT ROOM FOUR UNITS AND ALLEY, UH, AND BOY DOOR.

BUT ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENT WOULD NOT CHANGE, WHICH IS WHY THIS STATEMENT WAS, THE PROJECT WAS STILL BE FEASIBLE WITHOUT IT.

BUT WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND THAT, MAXIMIZE THE PROJECT, UH, IN, IN THE GOAL OF EXPANDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE, WOULD THERE BE A UNIT COUNT LOSS WITHOUT THE LA VACATION OR IS IT JUST SMALLER UNITS? UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UH, USUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF WAY TO DESIGN.

UH, IF I HAVE TO APPROXIMATE, I WOULD SAY THE LAST PROBABLY IN AROUND FIVE TO CLOSE IT TO 10%, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD DEPENDS ON THE CALIBRATION, THE UNIT SIZE.

IT COULD BE A COMBINATION, IT COULD BE A SLIGHT LOSS AND YOU'RE GONNA COUNT IN SMALLER UNIT.

UM, BUT IT CERTAINLY AFFECTS THE FUNDING AS WELL.

THERE'S TAX FUNDING, UH, RELATED TO THESE PROJECTS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

UH, AND SO THERE, THERE, THERE'S A MAGIC, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT A MAGIC, THERE'S A CRITICAL MASS IN ORDER TO MAKE THE FUNDING NUMBER WORKS AS WELL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SORRY.

UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY THEN THAT, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE, UM, VACATE THIS ALLEYWAY TODAY, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ADDING MORE UNITS OR UNIT SIZE A WEEK THROUGH WORKING WITH DSP STAFF.

THE VERSION OF THE SITE PLAN TODAY IS DESIGN WITH THE ALLEYWAY APPROVED TO BE EXPENDED.

SO WE HAD CONDITIONALLY APPROVED, UH, WITH THE EXPANDED VERSION OF THE DESIGN, UH, PENDING THE, UM, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND AS KIM MENTIONED, THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN NOVEMBER AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY BY COUNCIL IN JANUARY I THINK.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF WRAPPING UP THE BUM AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE JUST FEE THAT, YOU KNOW, SMART HOUSING TAKES TIME TO COME UP WITH AND THERE ARE THE EASTMAN DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO, UH, THERE'S OTHER RECORDING DOCUMENTS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

SO YEAH, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW REFLECTING THE VISION OF THE APP, THE HALF ALLIE BEING VACATED BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED IN THE PAST.

UH, THIS COMING BACK, IT'S CERTAINLY A BIT OF A CURVE BALL.

UH, BUT WE RESPECT THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

SO HERE, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE OUT HERE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR AFRICANS? ALL RIGHT.

ANY PRE MOTION DISCUSSION? UM, I CAN RESERVE IT FOR NOW OR AFTER THE MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME DISCUSSION ON THIS IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WELL.

DOES ANYBODY FEEL SO MOVED TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ALLEY VACATION, UM, AS REQUESTED.

Y THE, THE APPLICANT.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY, THEN WE ARE, YEP.

WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING THE MOTION.

AND JUST BEFORE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION ON THIS, EMILY, I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY EIGHT OF US AND THIS WILL REQUIRE AT LEAST SIX VOTES TO BE APPROVED.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND WAS WHO MADE THE MOTION? I GOT ALLIE SECONDS, BUT I MEANT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER FRANCO MADE THE MOTION NOTED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FRANCO, IF YOU WANT TO START THE DISCUSSION, GO FOR IT.

YEAH, I JUST HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS.

I JOT DOWN SOME NOTES SO I APOLOGIZE IF I'M LOOKING DOWN AND NOT AT THE SCREEN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS AT OUR, AT OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF ALL THE TIME THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PURVIEW OF X, RIGHT? AND WE ALL HAVE THOUGHTS ON, ON, ON MULTIPLE THINGS IN, IN, IN THIS WORLD.

BUT OUR PURVIEW FOR THIS COMMISSION IS URBAN TRANSPORTATION.

AND I DON'T PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT ON, ON ACCESS FOR, FOR FIRE DEPARTMENTS OR EMERGENCY SERVICES OR WHATNOT.

BUT I DO PUT A LOT OF FAITH AND I, AND I RESPECT THE, UH, THE, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT IS AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IF THEY THEMSELVES AND ALSO THEIR CONSULTING ENGINEERS HAVE APPROVED THIS AND THINK IT WORKS, I AM, WHO AM I TO GO AGAINST THAT? SO I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PERIPHERY OF THIS, OF THIS, OF THIS COMMISSION, IT'S ALREADY BASICALLY BEEN APPROVED BY, FOR, FROM A, FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSPECTIVE.

MMM.

BUT THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE COMMENTARY, IS THERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS

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AROUND, AROUND UM, YOU KNOW, RISK OF FIRE AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE SENIOR CITIZENS? AND NO, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT A FIRE EXPERT.

UM, I WOULD JUST ASK THE QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, THE TYNDALL IS BUILT, UH, WAS BUILT HERE RECENTLY AND ACROSS THE STREET IS A FIVE STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX.

I WOULD IMAGINE BASED ON CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES IS MOST LIKELY A WOOD STICK FRAME BUILDING AS WELL.

GET TYNDALL BUILD RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT.

SO IF THERE WAS THAT RISK AND CONCERN OF FIRE, WHY WAS THAT NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT