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YES, 
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BUT IN MUCH DETAIL. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE FROM THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD AND THEN REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH TIME FOR DISCUSSION HERE. 
          AGAIN, THERE'S NEVER GOING TO BE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO FILL THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO NEED AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY AROUND THESE FUNDS AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SO KEEP AN EYE TOWARDS THAT AS YOU HEAR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          BUT THOSE WILL BE THE COMMON THEMES AROUND NEEDING THAT FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          AND AS THE SITUATION RAPIDLY EVOLVES, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THAT ROOM TO MANEUVER SOME OF THESE FUNDING SOURCES IN THE FUTURE DEPENDING ON HOW OUR COMMUNITY RESPONDS TO THOSE PANDEMIC. 
          SO WHAT THAT ALTERNATIVE TO OUR DEPUTY CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AT AT VENUE. 
          THANK YOU CITY MANAGER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND BENDING A DEPUTY CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          I DO WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT WE, UM, I EMAILED THIS PRESENTATION AND THE PROPOSED SPENDING FRAMEWORK TO YOU AT ONE 15 TODAY. 
          WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK, UM, YESTERDAY. 
          SO YOU'VE HAD IT FOR ABOUT 24 HOURS. 
          UM, WE DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GET YOU THESE MATERIALS SOONER, BUT WE WERE ALL WORKING, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN ON THIS IMPORTANT SUBJECT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE MAKING CHANGES TO THIS PRESENTATION RIGHT UP UNTIL ABOUT ONE O'CLOCK TODAY. 
          UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THE TIME CONSTRAINTS, SO I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF IN MY COMMENTS AND ASK ALL OF THE SPEAKERS BEHIND ME TO LIKEWISE, UM, ERR ON THE SIDE OF BREVITY. 
          UM, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU SO YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP, EVERYONE ABLE TO SEE THAT. 
          NOT YET. 
          GOTCHA. 
          HARRINGTON. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THE AGENDA FOR TODAY, I WANTED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT HOW WE REORGANIZE OUR SPENDING FRAMEWORK. 
          I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING FUSION ABOUT HOW WE PRESENTED IT. 
          UM, PREVIOUSLY WE GOT A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, UM, AT THE MAIN 19TH WORK SESSION AND WE ALSO GOT FEEDBACK FROM OUR COBIT 19 FISCAL HEALTH CABINET. 
          SO WE'VE TRIED TO REORGANIZE IT BASED UPON THAT FEEDBACK. 
          I WOULD JUST STRESS IT'S A REORGANIZATION. 
          WE ARE NOT CHANGING THE PRIORITY FROM WHAT YOU SAW ON MAY 19TH. 
          WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION THAT MAYBE MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR WHAT, WHAT DOLLARS ARE GOING INTO EACH OF THE BUCKETS. 
          UM, I WILL SPEND JUST A ONE SLIDE TO TALK ABOUT THE, A PORTION OF THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE SPENDING. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE HAYDEN TO WALK US THROUGH THE, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH AND MEDICAL PORTION OF THE FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, AND THEN THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BROAD BASKET CATEGORY. 
          AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL SPEAKERS THAT ARE GONNA HELP MOVE US THROUGH THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK. 
          AGAIN, WE'LL TRY TO GET THROUGH IT QUICKLY SO THAT WE CAN GET TO YOUR COMMENTS AND DISCUSSIONS. 
          BUT I THINK SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, MAYBE THINGS WE CAN ANSWER JUST BY GETTING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, SO IN REGARD TO THE REORGANIZATION, JUST TO REITERATE, WE'RE, UH, CHANGES HOW WE ORGANIZE THEIR FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR FUNDING PRIORITIES. 
          UM, AGAIN, I SENT THAT, I SENT THAT SPREADSHEET TO YOU, THAT TABLE, UM, THAT LAYS THIS OUT IN MORE DETAIL. 
          I COULD BRING THAT UP IN THE SCREEN AS WELL IF IT HELPS US FACILITATE YOUR CONVERSATION. 
          BUT ESSENTIALLY THE BOTTOM FOUR BULLETS HERE SUMMARIZES THE CHANGES WE HAVE MADE TO THE FRAMEWORK FIRST. 
          UM, WE SPLIT THE FUNDING FOR COUNCILS NAMED INITIATIVES INTO THEIR PROGRAM COMPONENTS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE RISE PROGRAM, WHICH COUNCIL 
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APPROVED FOR $15 MILLION, HAD FUNDING IN IT, UM, RELATED TO FINANCIAL AND DIRECT ECONOMIC SUPPORT, FOOD ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE FRAMEWORK NOW, YOU WILL SEE THE RIDE PROGRAM REFLECTED IN THOSE THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          UM, WE ADDED A COLUMN TO THE FRAMEWORK, UH, FOR FUNDING NOTES AND THEN MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO IDENTIFY WHICH OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAM AREAS, HOW FUNDING FROM THE RISE PROGRAM FROM ARCHER, FROM CLEAR, ET CETERA. 
          SO THAT WAS ONE REARRANGEMENT OF THE FRAMEWORK. 
          HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO SEE. 
          UM, UM, WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED PRIORITIES ARE SECOND. 
          UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. 
          WE WEREN'T IN A POSITION LAST TIME WE PRESENTED THE FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT OUT FOR THE AUSTIN CONSERVATION FOR, WE'VE NOW INCLUDED $2 MILLION IN THE FRAMEWORK FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY THE AUSTIN CONSERVATION CORE. 
          AND THEN WE THINK THAT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF EXISTING DEPARTMENT BUDGETS AND PERHAPS SOME FUNDING FROM THE FRONT OF VIRUS RELIEF FUND AS WELL. 
          BUT THERE IS A LOT OF FUNDING THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THE CITY'S BUDGET AND THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST FROM DEPARTMENTS TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND THIS APPROACH TO DELIVERING CITY SERVICES. 
          UM, NEXT WE, UH, RECLASSIFIED AND IT REALLY IS MOVING IT AROUND. 
          UM, SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES OVERLAP, BUT WE TOOK 2.3 MILLION THAT HAD BEEN IN THE TESTING CATEGORY. 
          UM, ON THE MAY 19TH FRAMEWORK. 
          WE PUT THAT INTO THE PROTECTION OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS CATEGORY BECAUSE IT WAS TESTING SPECIFIC TO NURSING HOMES. 
          AND SO WE, WE HEARD THAT THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN SEEING THE, UH, THE DOLLAR, HER SPENDING TO PROTECT MODEL AND WILL POPULATIONS ALL IN ONE PLACE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED THAT 2.3 MILLION AGAINST NOT A CHANGE IN THE PURPOSE OF THE PRIORITIES. 
          IT'S JUST A CHANGE IN HOW WE'RE CATEGORIZING IT. 
          SO WE COULD FULLY REFLECT THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS LAST TIME ABOUT OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THE CONTINGENCY FUNDS. 
          OUR CONTINGENCY AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, THAT AMOUNT WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT WE HOLD BACK FOR UNCERTAINTIES IS ABOUT 12%. 
          BUT REALLY OUR THINKING ON THAT CONTINGENCY WAS, UM, WE FELT IT WAS PRIMARILY NEEDED, UM, TO ADDRESS PUBLIC HEALTH AND MEDICAL NEEDS IF THE DISEASE, IF THERE'S A RESURGENCE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES. 
          UM, WE ENDED UP SEEING HER A HOSPITAL'S OVERWHELMED. 
          THERE'S JUST SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY. 
          AND SO WE THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AREAS THAT WE NEED TO BE RESERVING, UM, SOME FUNDS TO ADDRESS SHOULD IT COME. 
          UM, AND THEN THE SECOND AREA, UH, UM, THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING SOME CONTINGENCY FORWARDS AND THE AMERICAN IN THE AREA OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY IN REGARDS TO HOW THE DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS ARE CHANGING AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT MAY BE NEEDED TO, UM, HELP OFFSET DEPARTMENT OPERATING EXPENSES AND TO FUND CRITICAL EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROGRAMS. SO I'M GONNA JUST MOVE ON REAL QUICK THEN. 
          UM, THAT EMERGENCY RESPONSE CATEGORY, IT'S JUST KIND OF OUR, OUR SHORTEST CATEGORY. 
          THERE'S REALLY ONLY THREE PROGRAM BUCKETS, UM, OVERALL 105 POINT $5 MILLION. 
          AND MAYBE JUST A QUICK REMINDER, UM, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TOTAL AROUND $270 MILLION OF FUNDING. 
          AS PART AS THE CITY'S RESPONSE, THE FUNDING, WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO, UH, THE COBIT 19 CRISIS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AROUND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UM, UM, MEDICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH NEEDS AND THEN ECONOMIC SUPPORT FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SUFFERING AS A RESULT OF THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF VOTED 19. 
          THE SOURCES OF FUNDING ARE, ARE, ARE FEMA DOLLARS AND THEN FEDERAL MONEY THAT ARE COMING THROUGH TO US THROUGH THE CARE. 
          ZACK, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, THE CITY'S RESERVES AND SOME PORTION OF OUR EXISTING OPERATING BUDGET. 
          SO KIND OF THE SOURCES AND BROAD USES OF FUNDING, BUT IN THAT EMERGENCY RESPONSE CATEGORY, 105.5 MILLION, 30 MILLION OF IT IS OUR ESTIMATED AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE A FEMA REIMBURSEMENT RELATED TO, UM, OUR DIRECT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. 
          THINK ABOUT THIS IS THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER, UM, OVERTIME HOURS THAT ARE BEING WORKED BY VARIOUS STAFF THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, UM, OUR EFFORT TO COMBAT THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE, UM, THAT THAT'S WHAT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT CARE CATEGORY IS. 
          AND WE DO ENVISION THAT BEING LARGELY, UM, REIMBURSED THROUGH FEMA. 
          THE NEXT BULLET, $68 MILLION IS THE OPPOSITE APARTMENT OPERATING EXPENSES THAT ARE SUBSTANTIALLY DEDICATED TO PROBE IN 19. 
          WE WOULDN'T DISSIPATE A LOT OF THIS BEING IN OUR EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY HAD SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED HOW THEIR OPERATE OPERATING AND THE PROGRAMS THEY'RE DELIVERING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND THESE EXPENSES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT THROUGH THE CORONA VIRUS RELIEF FUND. 
          UM, 
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AND THEN FINALLY SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, WE WERE RECOMMENDING TO KIND OF HOLD IN RESERVES FOR UNKNOWNS AND UNCERTAINTIES. 
          SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR. 
          UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING FOR A CONTINGENCY AMOUNT IN THIS CATEGORY. 
          I'M GOING TO QUICKLY TRANSITION IT OVER TO STEPHANIE HAYDEN AND ASK HER IF SHE COULD WALK US THROUGH THE MEDICAL AND PUBLIC HEALTH SUMMARY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND UM, WE HAVE, UM, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IS WE PUT TOGETHER A PLAN THAT WILL CARRY US, UM, FROM THE MONTH OF MAY THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER. 
          AND THIS PAGE HAS OUR HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, BASED UPON ALL OF THE AREAS WHERE WE NEED, UM, THE STAFFING CASE, INVESTIGATION, CONTACT TRACING, PUBLIC INFORMATION, LANGUAGE ACCESS TESTING, SHELTER SERVICES IN CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, JUST TO NAME A FEW. 
          WE ARE COLLABORATING WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, UM, JUST TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE OTHER TEMPORARY STAFF ACROSS THE CITY THAT MAY BE ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO THESE ROLES AS WELL AS UM, DETERMINING IF THERE ARE OTHER CITY STAFF THAT CAN TRANSITION INTO THIS ROLE. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET STAFF THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE REASSIGNED UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR AS WE HAVE DONE THE PLANNING FOR THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          THE NEXT BUCKET HAS THE COMMODITIES, THE CONTRACTUALS AND COMMODITIES. 
          AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR TESTING IS HAPPENING. 
          BUT IT'S ALSO WHERE OUR SHELTERS IN QUARANTINE FACILITIES ARE. 
          AND SO I'M, UM, ABOUT THREE FOURTHS OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOCUSED ON OUR, UM, EPIDEMIOLOGY RESPONSE, OUR TESTING, OUR SHELTERING AND SUPPORT FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. 
          AND AS ED SPOKE TO EARLIER, THE 25 MINUTES, A MILLION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH CONTINGENCY WOULD BE BASICALLY WOULD OVERLAY. 
          AND SO IF YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE PUT TOGETHER, UH, THE BUGGY PLEASURE RECOMMENDATIONS BY EXPENDITURE CATEGORY. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPENDITURE CATEGORY, THIS IS WHAT WE PLAN THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IN THE EVENT WE HAVE, UM, THE SURGEONS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, ACCORDING TO THE MODELING THAT WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ONES. 
          UM, WE CAN SURGE UP, UM, IN THE MONTHS OF JUNE, JULY, BUT WE CAN ALSO CARE FOR THE WINTER MONTHS, UM, AS WE MOVE INTO FLU SEASON. 
          AND SO WE WOULD ADD THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING ACROSS THESE CATEGORIES TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SCALE UP OUR OPERATIONS. 
          UM, AND IT'D BE A SEAMLESS, UM, PROCESS NEXT SLIDE YET. 
          SO THIS PROVIDES YOU A RIGHT DOWN FROM THE, FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND GIVES YOU THE INFORMATION FOR EACH OF THE BUCKETS. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID PLAN FOR, UM, JUST IN CASE WE MAY NEED THEM TIMELY, WE HAVE FOUR PROTECTIVE, UH, LODGING FACILITIES AND UM, AND IT HAS TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE SPECTRUM OF EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO BE IN THOSE SPACES. 
          AND SO, UM, WE HAVE BUDGETED IN THE EVENT THAT WE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE TO HAVE FIVE THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO BUDGET FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AT THOSE LODGES BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR VULNERABLE POPULATION WILL NEED THOSE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE PUT OUR, OUR, OUR BUDGET IN FOR TESTING. 
          AND SO YOU SEE, WE'VE ASKED FOR 80,000 TEST KITS, WHICH INCLUDES OUR LAB PROCESSING. 
          AND I KNOW SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED LAST WEEK THAT WE PROVIDED TO, TO YOUR OFFICES, BUT IT WAS A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT. 
          SO WE PROVIDED IT TO THE FEDERAL HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AS WELL AS THE, UM, WE SENT A COPY OF IT TO OUR, UM, THE STATE, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES. 
          NOW, WITHIN THAT PLAN, UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE PLANNED OUT THAT WE WOULD START TO INCREASE OUR LEVEL OF TESTING. 
          SO IN JULY YOU CAN SEE WE WOULD BE AT 60,000 TESTS AND I KNOW YOU'RE ASKING AND THINKING, HMM, YOU PUT 80,000 TEST ON HERE. 
          WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IS, IS WE'VE ALREADY PUT AN ORDER INTO THE STATE, UM, TO RECEIVE 2000 TESTS FOR 2000 TESTS 
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FOR WEEK HAS KIDS PER WEEK. 
          UM, WE ARE ALSO ANTICIPATING THAT MORE PARTNERS WILL COME ONLINE AS MOST OF YOU HAVE KNOWN. 
          UM, THERE ARE FIVE CVS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY THAT ARE PROVIDING THESE SERVICES. 
          AND SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, MORE APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME INTO THIS SPACE. 
          THE OTHER THING, UM, UM, WE, WE ARE MOVING TO DO MORE MOBILE TESTING. 
          WE'VE DONE SOME JUST A SMALL LEVEL OF MOBILE TESTING AND SO, UH, WE ARE IN CONTRACTS IN, IN, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VENDOR, UM, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME MOBILE TESTING FOR US. 
          AND SO WE ARE GOING TO DO A SIMILAR MODEL OF HOW WE DO FOR HIV TESTING, WHERE WE TAKE TESTING TO THE COMMUNITY AND BE ABLE TO DO TESTING IN ZIP CODES WHERE WE SEE THAT THERE IS A HIGH NUMBER OF, OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE POSITIVE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FROM FAITH BASED, UM, INSTITUTIONS THAT WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO SOME TESTING THERE AS WELL. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO UM, UH, REFINE THAT PLAN AND DEVELOP THAT AND ROLL THAT OUT AS WELL. 
          SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN REACH THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS IN THIS CASE AND PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AN ED MENTIONED THIS IN HIS HIGHLIGHTS, UM, WITH THE, UM, $3 MILLION FOR THE NURSING HOMES, BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE PLANNING AND RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE WILL BE WORKING WITH. 
          UM, UT, UM, DALE ON THESE TWO STUDIES. 
          IT'S UM, LIED IT, THIS PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, OUR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS OUR PPE, UM, AND UM, OTHER, UM, AREAS THAT WE FEEL ARE IMPORTANT. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UM, BRING ON SOME TEMPORARY CONTRACT MANAGEMENT STAFF WITH ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH THE RISE AND ANY OTHER CONTRACTS THAT MAY COME AVAILABLE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH, UM, THE PROCESS OF, OF GETTING THE MONEY OUT TO THE VENDORS AND WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE HAVE, WE ARE GOING TO UH, PUT TOGETHER A, UM, INDUCE MORE TARGET MEDIA AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR, UM, MATERIALS AND WE'VE INCLUDED MONEY FOR TRANSLATION AND INTERPRETATION. 
          BUT WE'VE ALSO UM, HAVE, UM, THUS FAR BEEN USING SOME PORTABLE TARTLETS AND HAND WASHING STATE, UM, STATIONS FOR OUR, UH, HOMELESS COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MMM. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, VERONICA IS GOING TO THIS AREA, ECONOMIC SUPPORT, GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL, VERONICA SANYO, CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER FOR THE CITY. 
          I WILL TRANSITION US INTO THE DISCUSSION OF ECONOMIC SUPPORT AS ED HAS MENTIONED, THAT IS A BROAD, UH, DISCUSSION ON HOW WE'RE APPROACHING SUPPORT. 
          AND SO THE NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU BY DIRECTORS. 
          THOSE ARE RARELY TRUE LOVE, STEPHANIE HAYDEN AND SYNOVIAL HALT. 
          ROB. 
          THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DONE HAS BEEN UNDER THE ADVISEMENT OF HARDSHIP CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER, BRIAN OAKS, AS WELL AS BRIEF BRONCO AND ED HIMSELF. 
          I WANTED TO STATE BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BY HAVING THE PRIORITY TO FIGHT THE PENDANT AND THEN DOING THAT WE CONSULTED AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH FIRST AND FOREMOST. 
          AND STEPHANIE HAS WALKED US THROUGH HOW WE SUGGEST WE ALLOCATE THESE OR RECOMMEND THAT WE ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS TOWARDS FIGHTING THE ENDEMIC, AND ONCE THAT WAS DISCUSSED, THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES, KNOWING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS ALL THE NEED AND KNOWING THAT THE NEED IS GREAT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO PROPOSE A PLAN THAT RECOMMENDS THE USE OF THESE FUNDS IN A WAY TOWARDS ECONOMIC SUPPORT. 
          AND IT'S DOING IT FROM BOTH THE INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THE ORGANIZATION PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER THAT ORGANIZATION IS A BUSINESS OR A NONPROFIT OR ANOTHER TYPE OF ENTITY. 
          WE ALSO, AS WE PUT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TOGETHER, WE BASED IT ON DATA. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, NEW PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE SPACE, AND THAT'S DONE ACROSS THE BOARD AND ACROSS OUR DEPARTMENTS, BOTH HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO BEFORE I THREW IT OVER TO THE DIRECTORS TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THESE BULLETS AND YOU SEE A SLIDE WITH MULTIPLE BULLETS OF HOW WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE USE OF FUNDS. 
          UM, I'VE ASKED 
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JOHN HOCKEY NEWS, WHO'S OUR CONSULTANT IN THE MATTER OF ECONOMIC RECOVERY, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LAY OF THE LAND AND KIND OF SET THE STAGE FOR US. 
          AND FROM THERE WE'LL GO OVER AS JOHN, DO YOU MIND TAKING OVER? OF COURSE. 
          MAYOR COUNCIL, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN, INTERESTING TIMES, RIGHT? AND SO I, IN THE INTEREST OF BEING FAIRLY CONCISE AND BEING FAIRLY BRIEF, I WILL TELL YOU KIND OF HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW IT APPLIES TO THE EFFORT HERE TODAY TO BEGIN TO SORT ORGANIZING THE FRAMEWORK AROUND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE FIRST PHASE I THINK WE HAVE SORT OF GONE THROUGH OR IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH IS WHAT I WOULD THINK OF AS KIND OF THE INITIAL ROUND OF IDENTIFICATION, STABILIZATION. 
          IT IS PLAYING OUT LARGELY AS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD. 
          PERHAPS YOU ALL RECALL WHEN WE TALKED ALMOST A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, WE SAID THAT IT WAS LIKELY THAT SOMEWHERE ON THE ORDER OF ONE IN FOUR AUSTINITES MIGHT EXPERIENCE A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS. 
          AS WE SIT HERE RIGHT NOW, THE OFFICIAL UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS OF APRIL IS A LITTLE OVER 12% BUT IN CONVERSATIONS WITH TAMAR ATKINSON AND WITH ROSIE AND VERONICA AS WELL, WE ALL KIND OF AGREED THAT FOR EVERY PERSON WHO'S IN THE SYSTEM, THERE'S ANOTHER PERSON RIGHT NOW WHO'S NOT IN THE SYSTEM AND SO WITHOUT GETTING DOWN INTO THE WEEDS TOO MUCH, I THINK WE ARE ON TRACK TO SEE LIKELY SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF ONE AND FOUR HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT, BUT AROUND ONE IN FOUR OF US MIGHT EXPERIENCE A PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS. 
          WE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT PERIOD OF JOBLESSNESS RIGHT NOW WITH AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL OF FEDERAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT. 
          I MEAN WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM, WHICH HAS HELPED A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES. 
          WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ECONOMIC STIMULUS, WHICH IS OF COURSE DIRECT PAYMENTS TO HOUSEHOLDS. 
          WE'RE ALSO FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL UH, SUPPLEMENT, IF YOU WILL, TO UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE THAT IS PROVIDING FOLKS 600 BUCKS A WEEK EXTRA OVER AND ABOVE WHAT TEXAS PROVIDES IF THEY'VE FILED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE END OF JULY. 
          SO IN THIS KIND OF FIRST PHASE WE'VE SEEN THE EFFECTS WE ANTICIPATED IN PARTICULAR ON THE ECONOMY SIDE, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF THE IMPACTS IN WHAT ECONOMISTS CALL CONSUMER FACING OR B TO C. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR LODGING INDUSTRY, YOUR HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY TO SOME DEGREE, YOUR PERSONAL SERVICES INDUSTRIES. 
          THOSE EFFECTS WE'RE SEEING AND WE'RE SEEING AT LEAST SOME LEVEL OF PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT COMING FROM THE FEDS. 
          IT'S PHASE ONE. 
          THE NEXT PHASE I THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AS ONE THAT FEDERAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT MAY RUN OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT UNEMPLOYMENT SUPPLEMENTS BEING DONE AT THE END OF JULY. 
          THERE WAS LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER AND IN WHAT FORM THAT WILL BE EXTENDED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          LET'S ASSUME FOR SAKE OF ARGUMENT, IT WILL PROBABLY NOT BE AS EXTENSIVE AND WIDESPREAD AS THE FIRST ROUND WAS, AND THAT'S ALSO GOING TO COINCIDE WHEN THE SECOND ROUND OF KNOCK-ON ECONOMIC EFFECTS BEGIN TO HOLD, AND THAT'S THE B2B STUFF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY AMERICAN AIRLINES ANNOUNCED IT'S GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 30% LAYOFFS AND VOLUNTARY RETIREMENTS FOR ITS ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. 
          THAT'S A FAIRLY BIG NUMBER OF PEOPLE. 
          WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DO AN UPGRADE ON THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM IN AMERICAN AIRLINES? THEY'RE LOGICALLY GOING TO DELAY IT FOR A WHILE. 
          THAT HAS AN EFFECT ON THE COMPANY THAT HAS THAT CONTRACT. 
          WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE HERE IN AUSTIN AND ELSEWHERE AS PEOPLE ARE SAYING, HEY MAN, I GOT TO RENEW MY LEASE ON THAT OFFICE BUILDING, BUT I DON'T NEED AS MUCH SPACE OR I SURE AS HECK AREN'T GOING TO PAY AS MUCH AS I WAS BEFORE. 
          WHAT ARE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT? SO THAT'S THE KIND OF THE B2B, THE NEXT PHASE THAT'S COMING AND THAT WILL COME IN ABOUT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE'LL BEGIN TO SEE THAT AS THIS FEDERAL SUPPORT IS AT LEAST SHIFTED AND LIKELY DIMINISHED. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL PHASE IS, OKAY, ONCE WE'VE ASSIMILATED ALL THAT, HOW DO WE INTEGRATE OUR EFFORTS TO TRY TO RECOVER FROM THAT IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY, AS WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS NAVIGATE ON THROUGH ALL OF IT. 
          AND SO A LOT OF THIS IN THE SPIRIT IS IN THE SPIRIT OF SEEING IT IN THIS KIND OF PROGRESSION, GOING FROM INITIAL SHOCK, STABILIZATION, SECONDARY EFFECTS, AND THEN RECOVERY. 
          AND WE WERE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE TEE US UP WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THREE OF THOSE DIFFERENT PHASES OF THE PROCESS AND WHEN WE GO, THAT'S, THANK YOU JOHN. 
          I THINK THAT'S BRINGING IT TO ME. 
          THIS IS ROSIE. 
          CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YES. 
          OKAY, VERY GOOD. 
          SO OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS 23.8 MILLION. 
          UH, AND THAT WILL BE FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL PHASE TWO OF OUR RELEASE OF EMERGENCY NEEDS FOR TENANTS PROGRAM. 
          UH, PAYMENT 
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WILL BE DIRECTLY TO OF RENT, WILL BE DIRECTLY TO LANDLORDS. 
          AND WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT HOUSEHOLDS UNDER 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COBIT 19. 
          AND YOU SEE THOSE, UM, THERE'S MFI LEVELS ON THE SCREEN FOR FOLKS THAT MIGHT WANT TO SEE THAT. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          ED. 
          SO TO REFRESH FOCUSES A MEMORY. 
          THE FIRST ROUND OF RENT WAS ROLLED OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH OF MAY AND THAT WAS FOR ABOUT ONE POINT $2 MILLION OF ASSISTANCE. 
          UH, THIS WAS ADMINISTERED, IT WAS FUNDED WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          IT ADMINISTERED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. 
          UH, WE DID A LOTTERY PROCESS ON MAY FOUR THROUGH SIX AND, UH, ELIGIBILITY, YOU MUST, YOU NEEDED TO HAVE BEEN A CITY OF AUSTIN RESIDENT HAD A STANDARD LEASE, WERE AT 80% AND BELOW MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. 
          YOU HAD TO DEMONSTRATE AN IMPACT BY COVEN 19. 
          UH, THE TENANT WAS STILL EXPECTED TO PAY 30% OF THEIR INCOME TOWARDS THEIR RENT. 
          UM, AND THE LANDLORD, UH, HAD TO BE, UM, THE LANDLORD HAD TO AGREE TO PAYMENT OF EITHER THE RENT THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT OR, OR FAIR MARKET RENT, UH, WHICHEVER WAS THE LESSER, UH, AND THIS WAS FOR ONE MONTH OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          SO THE RESULTS OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE SO FAR, AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GIVE NUMBERS THAT ARE UPDATED FROM EVEN YESTERDAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE NUMBERS BEING UPDATED AND, AND, AND UM, CHANGING ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          I'VE GOTTEN TWO UPDATES FROM HACA JUST TODAY ON THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS. 
          SO WE HAD 10,000 PLUS APPLICATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED, UH, OVER 5,500 THAT WERE ELIGIBLE AND COMPLETE. 
          UM, WE HAVE, AS OF NOON TODAY, WE HAVE PROCESSED THE APPLICATIONS FOR 1,549 APPLICATIONS, UM, RESULTING IN 1 MILLION, 175,000, $673 IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE GOING OUT WITH AGAIN, A $759 AVERAGE ASSISTANCE PER HOUSEHOLD. 
          THAT LEAVES US ABOUT A A LITTLE MORE THAN A LITTLE LESS THAN $84,000 TO GO, WHICH WE THINK IS GOING TO SERVE APPROXIMATELY 110 MORE APPLICANTS. 
          WHAT WE FOUND WITH, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS THAT MANY FOLKS HAD ALREADY, UH, THAT, THAT FOLKS HAD ALREADY PAID THEIR MAY RENT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ED. 
          AND SO WE ROLLED THE ASSISTANCE FORWARD TO JUNE FOR SOME OF THE APPLICANTS. 
          UM, WE FOUND THAT THIS WAS, UM, WE WENT WITH, UH, PARTNERING WITH HAKA BECAUSE OF THEY WERE UNIQUELY POSITIONED WITH CAPACITY AND TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE WERE CHALLENGED BY, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVELY INTENSE, UH, ASPECT OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND BEING IN A REMOTE WORK ENVIRONMENT AND AN INTENSIVE AMOUNT OF CASE MANAGEMENT, WE HAD CALL CENTER STAFFING. 
          THERE WAS AN INTENSE AMOUNT OF FOLLOWUP DOCUMENTATION, UH, AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH LANDLORDS AND TENANTS. 
          UH, SO WE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING SOME CHANGES, UH, BETWEEN WHAT WE DID WITH, WITH THE PRIOR PROGRAM AND WHAT WE WOULD CALL RENT 2.0, AS I SAID, SOME OF THE APPLICANTS HAD PAID ME RENT. 
          AND SO WE WERE ROLLING THIS FORWARD TO JUNE. 
          A MAJORITY OF APPLICANTS WERE SMALL HOUSEHOLDS. 
          UM, AND WE DID HAVE SOME CHALLENGES WITH GETTING FOLKS TO ACCEPT THAT LANDLORD CERTIFICATION, UM, ABOUT LESSER OF THE FAIR MARKET RENT OR THE ACTUAL RENT, UM, AND, AND INCLUDING THE PAYMENT FROM THE, THE ACTUAL TENANTS. 
          UM, NOW THE TRENDS BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY FOR MAY RENT COLLECTIONS WERE DOWN APPROXIMATELY 10%. 
          WE WERE RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WERE SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE INCREASED RENTAL ASSISTANT NEEDS COMING IN IN THE COMING MONTHS, ESPECIALLY AS, UH, UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE. 
          UH, THE, THE EXPANDED UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE RELATED TO KOBE IS GOING TO BE ANTICIPATING TO RUN OUT AT THE END OF JULY. 
          SO WE LOOK TO NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE AND WHAT WE SEE IS A DESIRE TO LEVERAGE EXISTING PROGRAMS WITH ADAPTIVE CAPACITY, UM, TO MAXIMIZE FLEXIBILITY, TO FOCUS ON POPULATIONS, UM, WITH THE GREATEST UNMET NEED AND TO MANAGE CURRENT RESOURCES WHILE STILL PUSHING FOR MORE FUNDING. 
          UM, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF POINTED UP AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL THERE. 
          WE ALSO LOOK TO OUR STATEWIDE COLLABORATORS. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE PUT ON SUCH LARGE SCALE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS AND, UM, WE ARE LEARNING FROM ALL THREE OF US ARE LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AS WE, AS WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, HOW TO TAKE THIS FORWARD INTO THE NEXT ITERATION. 
          UH, IN THE INSTANCE OF IT OF TIME, I WON'T GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE IF THEY'RE, IF THEY EXIST FROM COUNCIL. 
          UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MODIFICATIONS FOR RENT, UH, WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN LISTENING MODE AND, AND WANT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND FROM COUNCIL. 
          BUT WE ARE 
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WANTING TO CONSIDER A DECENTRALIZED INTAKE PROCESS WHERE, UM, WHERE WE LOOK AT PARTNERING WITH THREE TO FIVE DIFFERENT NON-PROCESSED NONPROFITS THAT WILL HELP US WITH OUTREACH AND ELIGIBILITY AND HELP US ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR, OUR EQUITY GOALS. 
          UM, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO, TO COME UP WITH A DEADLINE. 
          WE'RE CONSIDERING HAVING FIRST COME FIRST SERVE VERSUS A LOTTERY. 
          BUT I THINK THE LOTTERY IN A LOT OF INSTANCES MAKES MORE SENSE. 
          SO IF WE CAN, UH, FIGURE OUT LOGISTICALLY AND ADMINISTRATIVELY HOW TO SWING THAT, THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR PREFERENCE. 
          UM, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE APPLYING THAT ARE AT 80% NFI OR UP TO 80% MFI, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE MONTH OF ASSISTANCE IF FOLKS COME IN AND APPLY AND THERE, UH, AND THEY WERE ALREADY EXISTING UP TO 30% MFI, UH, THEN WE ARE LOOKING TO QUALIFY THEM AT WITH ONE APPLICATION FOR THREE MONTHS OF ASSISTANCE. 
          UH, WE'RE WANTING PAYMENT TO BE THE ACTUAL RENT, NOT FAIR MARKET RENT OR SOME SUBSET OF RENT THAT MAKES IT EASIER, UM, IN THE, IT SIMPLIFIES THE PROCESS FOR HOW WE'RE GONNA ACHIEVE GETTING THE DOLLARS OUT THE DOOR. 
          AND IT ALSO HELPS THE LANDLORDS. 
          WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH AGENCIES THAT WILL HELP US BRING IN LANDLORDS THAT CAN HELP FACILITATE APPLICATIONS FOR THEIR FOLKS THAT MAY BE LOW INCOME AND, AND IMPACTED BY COBIT. 
          UM, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS AN INCREASED DESIRE FOR US TO WORK ON A PROGRAM THAT WILL HELP MEET THE NEEDS OF LANDLORDS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN GHOSTED OR HAVE HAVE TENANTS THAT ARE JUST FLAT OUT NOT PAYING RENT AND NOT BEING COMMUNICATIVE. 
          I'M NOT SURE THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT MEETS THOSE NEEDS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT. 
          I HAVE A CALL THAT'S GETTING SET UP, UH, WITH, WITH FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND ABLE TO, UM, TO DISCUSS THAT AND WHAT THAT KIND OF, UH, WHAT KIND OF PROGRAM THAT MIGHT NEED TO LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, BUT WE DO RECOMMEND, WE DO RECOMMEND FOR, FOR FOR THIS, FOR RENT, FOR THE PROGRAM RENT THAT A HAKA WOULD REMAIN OUR FISCAL AGENT. 
          AND THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK WE'LL TURN IT OVER. 
          I'M ASSUMING ED, THAT YOU WILL WANT TO DO QUESTIONS AT THE END. 
          AND SO LET FOLKS GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK THAT BY WAY OF TIME CHECK IT IS A TWO 20 NOW WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE PACKET SO YOU NEED TO PICK IT UP. 
          IT'S THERE STILL ARE WE ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, SO THERE'LL BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE ARE UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION IN MAY. 
          WE ARE SEEKING 25 POINT $5 MILLION TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES THROUGH TWO PHASES. 
          THE FIRST PHASE THROUGH THE CLEAR FUND OF A GRANT UP TO 40,000. 
          THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT TRAVIS COUNTY IS DOING AROUND 40 AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS DOING AROUND 25,000 FOR GRANTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE PROFILE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN AUSTIN. 
          I WON'T GO INTO THAT DETAIL. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE 23.5 NERDY, WE'RE SEEKING TO LILIAN AND LONGTERM LEASE STABILIZATION FUND A GRANT UP TO 40,000 FOR LANDLORDS WHO WILL ENTER INTO LONGTERM LEASES WITH COMMERCIAL TENANTS TO DELIVER COMMUNITY BENEFITS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, IN ADDITION, COUNSEL IS ALSO COULD HAVE UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE OF $10 MILLION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE KNOW THAT OUR CREATIVE SECTOR IS A ECONOMIC ENGINE AND AUSTIN COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED ONE POINT $5 MILLION FOR A MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND $4,000 GRANT. 
          WHEN MUSICIAN, WE ANTICIPATE SERVING ABOUT 1500, UM, MUSICIANS. 
          IN ADDITION, YOU APPROVED A CREATIVE SPACE DISASTER FRONT OF A MILLION DOLLARS TO PROVIDE GRANTS UP TO 50,000 FOR ORGANIZATIONS IN USE AND INDEPENDENT ARTISTS. 
          WE ARE SEEKING RECORD, UH, AN ADDITIONAL $5 MILLION FOR THE CREATIVE SECTOR. 
          WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED $1 MILLION FOR NONPROFITS FOCUSED ON ARTISTS AND CULTURE. 
          WE'RE SEEKING AN ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION, A $500 TO CONTINUE THAT SUPPORT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          FINALLY, UM, THE ANCHOR FUND, WHICH WAS ALSO APPROVED, WE ARE PROPOSING TWO PHASES FOR A TOTAL OF $700 COUNSEL ARTICULATED SPECIFIC NONPROFITS THAT WE'RE TO FOCUS ON. 
          THE SECOND PHASE WILL ACTUALLY EXTEND TO NONPROFITS THAT MAY NOT FALL IN THOSE CATEGORY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE PROFILE OF NONPROFITS IN AUSTIN IS OVER 4,400, UH, EMPLOYING ABOUT 21,000 INDIVIDUALS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          CHILDCARE WAS ALSO APPROVED BY COUNCIL 
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SEEKING THOSE FACILITIES THAT ARE TO SORROW, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED $1 MILLION AND IT WAS SEEKING AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. 
          WE'RE PROVIDING GRANTS AND WE HAVE ALREADY INITIATED A LONG PROGRAM, BUT WE WANT TO ALSO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CAN HELP THEM IN CAPACITY BUILDING, UH, DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE AND NONPROFIT MANAGEMENT. 
          AND SO THIS WILL BE OFFERED NOT ONLY TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES BUT THE NONPROFITS. 
          I WILL LET STEPHANIE ADJUST THIS SLIDE EXACTLY. 
          THE NEXT THREE SLIDES WILL BE DONE BY STEPHANIE AND THEN WE'LL BE WRAPPING UP IN JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES. 
          UM, JUST SO HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS JUST PROVIDING, UM, THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS. 
          SO WHETHER IT'S THROUGH RISE OR, UM, A FUND SYMBOL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUND, WHICH IMPACTS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          IT SAYS THE FOOD ASSISTANCE, UM, CAREGIVER MEALS FOR DISTRICT AS WELL AS DALE VALLEY AND ALMOST POPULATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE EIGHT. 
          UM, THIS JUST BASICALLY PROVIDES UM, PPQ GRANTS, UM, AS WELL AS OUR, UM, MEDICAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WHICH WILL COVER, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COUNSELING AND UM, ASSISTANCE FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME WORKERS WITH HEALTHCARE, HEALTHCARE IN CUSTOMER FACING ROLES, CUSTOMER SERVICE ROLES. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WILL JUST CLOSE THIS OUT WITH A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, RIVERA BANDER. 
          MINE HAD BEEN TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH A LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. 
          WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS EXPRESSING INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM AND USING EXISTING BUDGETS, THINGS LIKE CONSERVANCY PROJECTS AND WATER UTILITY AND WATER PROTECTION AND PARKS AND WILDFIRE, FUEL MITIGATION AND AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND, AND VARIOUS OTHER PROGRAMS, LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE BELIEVE WITHIN EXISTING CITY RESOURCES, UM, TO FUND THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OFTEN CONSERVATION CORPS PROGRAM. 
          THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY SLIDE OF EVERYTHING WE SAID AND WE ARE ALL HERE AS STAFF TO TO SUPPORT YOU THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          COLLEAGUES, CAN YOU PUT IT ON THAT LAST SLIDE AT THE SUMMARY SLIDE? YES, I CAN. 
          YEP. 
          AND I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER QUESTIONS BUT BECAUSE I KNOW, I'M SURE EVERYBODY DOES AND I HAVE LIMITED TIME. 
          I GUESS MY, MY MAIN PRIORITY IS, WELL A COUPLE OF POINTS I WANT TO MAKE IS ONE IN THE COMMENT THAT MR. HAWKINS HAS MADE, WHICH WE ALL DO AND I'M GLAD HE POINTED THAT OUT, THAT WHILE WE SEEN AN OFFICIAL 12% UNEMPLOYMENT, RIGHT, THE REALITY IS THERE IS A LARGE SODA, THE HIDDEN, SO TO SPEAK, POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. 
          SO THEY ARE NOT REPORTED IN THAT. 
          AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR THAT NUMBER THAT IT COULD BE DOUBLED AT, WE'RE AT ALMOST 25% OF UNEMPLOYMENT. 
          UM, I, I'M, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THE MONDAY THAT WAS COMMITTED TO RISE AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'RE COMMITTING MORE TO RENTAL AND, AND THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THIS FRAMEWORK FOR OTHER NEEDS ASIDE FROM RENTAL AND FOOD. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME FAMILIES USE THAT, THAT, THAT, AND THE NONPROFITS COULD TELL US WHAT THOSE ANECDOTAL STORIES ARE. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE ASKED FOR MORE FUNDING AND, AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIMITED FUNDING SO THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO CREATE A SYSTEM TO GET THAT MONEY OUT AND THERE'S NOT ANY MORE FOR THEM. 
          AND, AND SORT OF WERE I JUST NOT HAVING ANY ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION TO FAMILIES WHO ARE, COULD BE UP TO 25% OF AUSTINITES, UM, FACING DIRE SITUATION RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE HAVE NO ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION FOR, FOR, UH, BASIC NEEDS AND, AND DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE MOVE OR HOW WE GET THEM, BUT I JUST, I THINK IT'S REALLY 
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IMPORTANT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR VERY FIRST PRIORITY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY HELP, WILL NOT GET STIMULUS MONEY AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF HAS DONE. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'RE BEING PULLED IN 5 MILLION DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT I JUST, THE MOST VULNERABLE, WE SEE NO ADDITIONAL ALLOCATION FOR, FOR NEEDS BEYOND FOOD AND RENTAL. 
          AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND SOMEHOW TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE, TO THE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE TOLD US THAT THE NEED WAS SO GREAT. 
          UM, AND, AND THEY'VE HAD TO TURN SO MANY FAMILIES AWAY AND, AND THEN ASIDE, AND I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY TO THE NONPROFIT, UM, ASSISTANCE. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT, THAT, UH, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY. 
          LET'S SEE HERE ARE THOSE BRANDS I SAW. 
          CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THOSE GRANTS FOR THE NONPROFITS? I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED HELP. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP BOTH TO HELP A NONPROFIT AND TO HELP THEM AND TO GIVE THEM A, A CONTRACT AND, AND, AND UM, AND SOME FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE TO FAMILIES. 
          SO NOW WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED MAY SEVEN, TO PROVIDE OPERATIONAL SUPPORT FOR NONPROFITS IN THESE SPECIFIC SPACES, UM, ARE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 
          SO THAT WAS THE INTENT AND WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT HOW TO DO BOTH. 
          BUT THE RESOLUTION ON A C TALKED ABOUT SUPPORT. 
          WAS IT SUPPORT FOR THE, FOR THE, THE, THE ORGANISM, NOT THE RIGHT FUNDING, NOT THE ORGANIZATION AS A BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT HELP, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID, WHAT DID NOT HELP THAT COULDN'T, COULD WE DO BOTH? WHAT COULD WE NOT HELP THEM? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT I GUESS THE SITUATION IS THEY'VE LOST FUNDING FROM DONORS FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, REGULAR DONOR BASE AND HAVING A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY IS, IT WOULD, WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY, UM, AN ADDITIONAL DONOR, SO TO SPEAK, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONTRACTED TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SERVICE. 
          UM, BUT THEY GET AN ADMINISTRATOR MADE, EXCUSE ME, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FROM THAT. 
          IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO, I THINK YOU SAID YOU COULD LOOK INTO THAT, SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, IS THERE A, WAS DID THE RESOLUTION, I DON'T REMEMBER. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          DID THEY SPECIFICALLY PRIORITIZE WHAT KINDS OF NONPROFITS? LIKE AS FAR AS THEIR, THE, THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE OR WAS IT JUST ANY NONPROFIT THAT APPLIES FOR THE GRANT? THE NONPROFITS THAT SERVE AS THE SPECIFIC FIELDS? SO IF YOU'RE A NONPROFIT WORKING IN THE EDUCATION ARTS AND CULTURE OR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, WELL, I'LL JUST, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OFF AND HOPEFULLY LIKE, I THINK Y'ALL MIGHT STILL BE MEETING WHEN I'M DONE WITH MY THING, SO THANK YOU. 
          UH, YES SIR. 
          UM, SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ARE SIMILAR TO MAYOR PRO TIMES. 
          UH, I WANT TO MENTION ONE THING AS FAR AS THE UPDATED SPENDING FRAMEWORK, THE, UH, THAT THE NEW FIRST LINE THAT SAYS FINANCIAL AND OTHER DIRECT SUPPORT. 
          UM, NOW AT 15 MILLION, SEVEN AND A HALF FROM RISE. 
          AND I GUESS THE OTHER EIGHT OR SO FROM, UM, THE OTHER EIGHT OR SO IS IN ADDITION, AFTER TALKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE, THAT 8 MILLION IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUNDS TO MAKE IT SO THAT IF SOMEBODY IS SICK AND WE WANT TO NEED TO KEEP THEM HOME OR SOMEBODY IS OLDER AND WE NEED TO KEEP THEM HOME AND THEY STAY HOME. 
          AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT, THAT FRANKLY THAT IT, I THINK THAT PEOPLE CAN MISUNDERSTAND SINCE THIS IS ECONOMIC SUPPORTS OR ECONOMIC RECOVERY DOLLARS, UM, MS UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FUND IS. 
          SO MY SENSE IS THAT REALLY THAT SHOULD BE BROKEN OUT AND BE IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH SECTION BECAUSE THIS ISN'T FUNDING THAT JUST ANY PERSON WITH AN ECONOMIC ISSUE CAN APPLY FOR IT'S FUNDING WITH A PUBLIC HEALTH PURPOSE. 
          SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THAT MONEY LIVE WHERE I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD UNDERSTAND IT BETTER. 
          SO THAT'S JUST ONE THOUGHT. 
          UM, BECAUSE HERE IT'S MIXED IN THIS COLUMN. 
          IT'S MIXED IN WITH THINGS LIKE, UH, HEB GIFT CARDS TO PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD FOOD. 
          AND THOSE THINGS ARE JUST TO ME CATEGORICALLY DIFFERENT. 
          SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO NOTE. 
          UH, AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS TO ECHO WHAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM JUST MENTIONED AROUND. 
          UM, 
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I APPRECIATE THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF NEW RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS. 
          ACTUALLY, LET ME START OUT BY SAYING I THINK WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT THE MANAGER IS TRYING TO DO HERE AND WHAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON IS A BALANCE. 
          IT IS NOT, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR ANY GIVEN NEED. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PROPORTIONATE BALANCE THAT WE STRIKE AND TO GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL SUPPORTS IN SOME AREAS, BUT LACK OF FEDERAL SUPPORT IN OTHER AREAS. 
          I REALLY THINK THAT FOR ME, WE FALL, I FALL TOWARDS ALLOCATING MONEY TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND EMERGENCY NEEDS AND THEN ALLOCATING MONEY WHERE WE SEE THE GREATEST NEED, ESPECIALLY THE GREATEST NEED FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE OTHER ACCESS TO FUNDS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I THINK RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND A DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THAT ARISE ARE AWARE. 
          I WOULD STRIKE THE BALANCE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          SO I'LL JUST SAY IT'S REALLY TRANSPARENTLY AND IT'S HARD TO SAY WHERE TO CUT OR WHERE TO REDUCE THE INCREASE. 
          BUT I WOULD FALL MORE ON THE SIDE OF MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, MORE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE SINCE THERE ISN'T ANY INCREASE THERE. 
          AND IF I WERE TO HAVE TO REDUCE THEM, THEN I WOULD FIND, LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY REDUCTIONS ON THE BUSINESS SIDE, UM, THAT WE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY IF WE FIND OUT WHO QUALIFIES MORE FOR CERTAIN BUSINESS SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT REALLY CAN'T GET THAT SUPPORT, BUT IF I WERE TO REDUCE SOME, I WOULD REDUCE IT THERE. 
          I WOULD FIND, UH, AS MAYOR PRO TEM MAYBE ALLUDED TO WAYS FOR US TO SUPPORT OUR NONPROFIT SECTOR BY ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE, UM, AND MAYBE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF JUST BUSINESS SUPPORT THERE. 
          UM, AND I WOULD LOOK AT, UM, ON THE CREATIVES ON THE ADDITIONAL 5 MILLION IN CREATIVE MONEY. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF CREATIVES IN MY DISTRICT AND YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE CITY THAT NEEDS SUPPORT. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR HOUSEKEEPERS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CREATE THESE RENTAL ASSISTANCE BUCKETS AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE BUCKETS FOR ANY PERSON IN ANY INDUSTRY THAT IS DON'T GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED. 
          AND SO I DO THINK THAT IF WE MOVED SOME OF THAT CREATIVE MONEY OVER TO DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THAT WOULD NOT BE CUTTING CREATIVES OUT. 
          IT WOULD STILL BE A PLACE FOR CREATIVES TO GO. 
          BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PUTTING UP LIGHTS AT A SHOW OR IF YOU'RE AN ACTOR OR A MUSICIAN IN A SHOW OR IF YOU'RE THE CHILDCARE WORKER, UH, FOR, UH, IN A HOUSEHOLD WITH A CREATIVE, YOU COULD ALL STILL APPLY TO THAT SAME FONDANT. 
          SO THAT IF I NEEDED TO PUT MY CARDS ON THE TABLE ABOUT WHERE I WOULD MOVE, I WOULD MOVE AROUND TO CREATE MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          I WOULD LOOK TO THOSE PLACES BECAUSE ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS ULTIMATELY A PUBLIC HEALTH EXPENSE OR AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE EXPENSE. 
          YOU COULD RETURN US TO THE SCREEN WHERE WE COULD SEE ONE ANOTHER THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. 
          UM, I CAN ONLY SEE FOUR PEOPLE. 
          JIMMY, THANKS MAYOR. 
          UM, I'M JUST REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF STAFF'S WORK ON THIS. 
          I THINK THE, THE REFRAMING OF THIS REALLY STREAMLINED AND SIMPLIFIED HOW TO, HOW TO INTERPRET THIS. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CHALLENGING CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT KIND OF TO WHAT  WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO MAKE ANY TWEAKS IN THESE CATEGORIES, BUT AS FAR AS THE FRAMEWORK IS CONCERNED, I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB STRUCTURING THIS DOCUMENT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHEN I, WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND I ADD UP THE DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, THE FOOD ASSISTANCE AND THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE, WE GET TO 56, $57 MILLION, WHICH, WHICH IS GOOD CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF IN THE BALLPARK WHERE WE'VE BEEN HEARING SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THE SCALE OF INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE. 
          AND SO WE ARE, I THINK SQUARELY IN THAT BALLPARK, WHICH, WHICH IS EXCITING TO SEE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'LL BE DEBATE ABOUT HOW THEY BREAK OUT IN THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          THAT'S A GOOD DEBATE. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE PLACE WHERE I CAN KIND OF GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COUNCIL MEMBER COSAR IT IS THE TIMING AND ROLLOUT OF FUNDS. 
          SO IF WE HAVE THE 20 SOMETHING MILLION FOR SMALL BUSINESS BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE THREE MONTHS TO ROLL IT OUT, BUT THAT, THAT 20 WITH THE 41 MILLION IN RENT AND DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE ONLY LASTS A MONTH OR A MONTH AND A HALF, THEN MAYBE THERE IS SOME ROOM TO MOVE STUFF BACK OVER INTO THE PLACE WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE IMMEDIATE HELP WHILE WE FLESH OUT THE SCALE OF BUSINESS SUPPORT GETTING PAST THAT INITIAL 10 MILLION THAT WE AUTHORIZE WITH THAT IN 23. 
          SO I THINK THERE IS SOME REASONABLE FLEXIBILITY THERE 
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THAT ARE, THAT IS AS MUCH A PRAGMATIC IMPLICATION AS IT IS ONE THAT'S A POLICY RELATED. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, GOOD WORK TO STAFF ON, ON HOW YOU STRUCTURE THIS. 
          I THINK IT'S A GREAT FRAMEWORK. 
          THAT'S SUMMER KITCHEN. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME JUST QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. 
          SO, UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, UM, HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO MONEY WE ALREADY HAD IN THE EXISTING BUDGET? AND, UM, LET ME GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER THE CREATIVE BUCKET, WE LIST THE 1 MILLION FOR THE UM, OR THE CREATIVE SPACE PROGRAM. 
          WELL, WE ALREADY HAD 750,000 IN OUR EXISTING BUDGET. 
          SO THIS 1 MILLION REFLECTS SOME MONEY THAT WE, THAT WE, THAT WE ALLOCATED LAST YEAR IN OUR BUDGET AS WELL AS SOME COVERED FUNDS. 
          BUT, UM, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'RE COUNTING IT ALL AS OUT OF COVERT FUNDS. 
          SO I WOULD WANT TO HAVE SOME UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, UH, ABOUT, ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THE ONLY REASON, THE ONLY, I JUST GIVE THAT AS AN ILLUSTRATION, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR ANY OF THESE OTHER BUCKETS. 
          UM, AND MY QUESTION REALLY IS IF, IF WE ARE DOING THAT, IF WE HAVE SOME IN SOME OF THESE BUCKETS, EXISTING BUDGET DOLLARS FROM THE LAST BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED, DOES THAT NOT MEAN THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS TO PLAY WITH? SO THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          AND THEN A RELATED QUESTION AND THEN I'LL STOP. 
          SO YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK TO IT OR RELATED. 
          IT HAS TO DO WITH OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE A BUCKET IN HERE FOR OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS TO GET HOUSING. 
          WE DON'T TALK ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND THEY'RE AMONG OUR, I MEAN THEY'RE THERE. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT IS HOMELESSNESS. 
          BUT WE DID HAVE IN OUR BUDGET FOR THIS LAST YEAR, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND RAPID REHOUSING FUNDS. 
          SO I HOPE I'M CORRECT AND MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT THOSE, THAT THOSE BUCKET OF DOLLARS, THOSE RAPID REHOUSING DOLLARS IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DOLLARS THAT WE APPROVED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ARE BEING SPENT NOW TO HELP THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS FIND MORE PERMANENT HOUSING SO THAT WHEN THEY, SO THAT THEIR PATH AFTER THE PRO LODGE, THEIR PATH IS INTO HOUSING, NOT BACK ON THE STREETS. 
          SO, SO TO WRAP ALL THAT UP, MY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION THERE IS HOW DOES THIS BUCKET OF MONEY RELATE TO WHAT WE ALLOCATE, WHAT WE APPROVED IN OUR BUDGETS LAST YEAR? UM, IS IT DOUBLE COUNTING IN SOME WAY OR NOT? AND THEN SECOND, SECOND GETTING INTO THE HOMELESS. 
          UM, ARE WE USING THE DOLLARS THAT WE ALLOCATED LAST YEAR FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AROUND THE RAPID REHOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO HELP THEM GET HOUSING RATHER THAN GOING FROM A PROLOGUE SITUATION BACK INTO SHELTER OR ON THE STREETS. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF TWO QUESTIONS. 
          SO, SO REMEMBER KITCHEN, I'LL TAKE THE FIRST QUESTION AROUND THE AUSTIN CREATIVE SPACE RELIEF PROGRAM. 
          YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          WE ORIGINALLY HAD $750,000 IN THAT PROGRAM, BUT WE AMENDED THE GUIDELINES TO INCORPORATE COBIT RELATED CHALLENGES OR CRITERIA. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S INCLUDED IN THE SHEET. 
          BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, IT WAS IN OUR BUDGET AND I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY ITEM AND I'LL DEFER TO ED, BUT WE AMENDED THE GUIDELINES TO FACTOR INTO THE COVEN. 
          YES. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE ON THIS LIST. 
          MY QUESTION IS, SO WHAT IS THE OTHER 750,000 BEING USEFUL? I MEAN IT'S, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS ALL ADDS UP AND MAYBE ED CAN HELP ME WITH IT. 
          DOES THAT IF I'M JUST BEING, IF, IF, IF EVERYBODY ELSE UNDERSTANDS IT, I CAN TAKE IT OFFLINE, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 750,000 TO PUT SOMEWHERE. 
          NO, THE 750 IS FROM OUR OPERATING BUDGET. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          AND IT WAS DEDICATED TOWARDS, AND IT WAS TO BE USED SEASET PROGRAM. 
          SO IF WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO ADD, DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION? PERHAPS YOU CAN 
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ANSWER. 
          UM, I, I DO. 
          UM, AND I, AND I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD PAGE OF THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK, I THINK THE ONE EXAMPLE THAT WE TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT WAY WAS THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM WHERE WE PUT $2 MILLION TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM AND WE ANTICIPATE MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THAT CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH EXISTING DEPARTMENT BUDGETS. 
          AND SO WE USE THAT TERM OPERATING FUNDS. 
          UM, THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE, FROM WHAT I JUST HEARD, SYNOVIA SAY THAT USE OF THE TERM OPERATING FUNDS SHOULDN'T HAVE ALSO BEEN ADDED TO THE CREATIVE SECTOR ASSISTANCE BECAUSE 750,000 IN ADS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S COMING FROM EXISTING OPERATING BUDGETS. 
          THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY AREA I THINK I LIKE THAT. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS DOES THAT ADD TO THE, THE, THE TOTAL SPENDING FRAMEWORK IS SAID 271 MILLION. 
          SO DO WE NEED TO BE IN 750,000 TO THAT TOTAL? I THINK THAT'S ALREADY THE SEVEN 50 IS PART OF THE 8.5 MILLION. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR AND AGAIN, IT'S, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE PEOPLE'S TIME IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE ACCOUNTING FOR WHAT'S ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO THOSE ARE THOSE TWO. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO EXAMPLES. 
          I'M NOW AWARE OF INSTANCE IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE HAVE SOME EXISTING APPROVED BUDGET BUDGET COUNCIL APPROVED FOR FISCAL YEAR 20. 
          UM, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT MONEY GOING TO THOSE TWO PROGRAMS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS NEW FUNDING FROM THE CARES ACT OR FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS OR FROM OUR GENERAL FUND RESERVES. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN MY QUESTION AND YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT AND I CAN EXPLAIN IT OFFLINE, BUT WHY IS THE 271.6 MILLION NOT THEN I ASSUME THE 2 MILLION IS IN THAT, SO WHY ARE WE NOT DOING 271.6 MILLION PLUS 750,000 THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING AND AGAIN I CAN TAKE IT OFFLINE BUT BUT YOU SEE THE, THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS IF WE HAD THAT 750,000 SO OR MAYBE THE OTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS THIS, THIS, THESE BUCKETS ARE BEING FUNDED BY A COMBINATION OF CARES RELIEF, OTHER FEDERAL FUNDS, FEMA AND OUR EXISTING BUDGET. 
          IS THAT THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS? ONLY IN IT FOR THAT LAST PART WITH OUR EXISTING BUDGET, ONLY $750,000 FOR THE CREATIVE SECTOR ASSISTANCE. 
          AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE SOMEWHERE IN THE, IN THE RANGE OF A MILLION AND A HALF OR SO FOR THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THAT PROGRAM. 
          BUT AS I SAID EARLIER, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST FROM DEPARTMENTS PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          IT'S FUNDING IN THE BUDGET THAT CAN GO TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM. 
          IT'S ONLY FOR THOSE TWO LINE ITEMS IN THE FRAMEWORK. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN I JUST, I'M SORRY, BOTH OF THOSE AMOUNTS WOULD BE PART OF THE TOTAL. 
          THE 270 POINTS, IT'S GOING TO BE 71.6 MILLION SYNOVIA JUST TALKED ABOUT AS WELL AS THE REALLOCATION OF EXISTING DEPARTMENT FUNDS. 
          SO THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN I HAVE A BROADER QUESTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO HERE, BUT I, I'M, I'M STILL, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE TOTAL THAT WE'VE GOT AVAILABLE TO SPEND, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE A 271.6 MILLION HERE. 
          WHERE DID THAT COME FROM AND HOW DO WE, WHERE'S THAT TOTAL? SO WE CAN TAKE THAT OFFLINE. 
          BUT THAT'S MY, THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION THAT I HAVE HERE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TELLS ME, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE KNOW, WE, EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER THE NEEDS. 
          WELL, DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 
          WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE COMPONENT OF, OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT ARE WE ADDING UP TO UNDERSTAND THE MODEL THAT WE HAVE? SO THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, SO LET ME TURN TO THE OTHER ONE. 
          SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, I LEAVE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE HOMELESS, UM, ADDRESS THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, SO WE ARE UTILIZING THE EXISTING FUNDS IN OUR HOSTA PUBLIC HEALTH BUDGET TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE CASE MANAGEMENT TO, UM, CONNECT FOLKS TO, TO, UM, HOUSING. 
          ALSO. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, ABOUT 2.4 MILLION THAT IS COMING FROM, UM, ESG AND THERE'S ANOTHER MILLION FROM CDBG, UM, AND THAT WILL PAY FOR CASE MANAGEMENT, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND HOUSING 
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ASSISTANCE. 
          AND SO OUR, OUR, UM, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE CASE MANAGERS TO, UM, WORK WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN PROTECTIVE LODGES TO MOVE THEM INTO HOUSING. 
          SO THAT IS THE GOAL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I KNEW THAT WAS THE GOAL AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEWHERE IN ALL OF THIS WE HAD THE DOLLARS TO EFFECTUATE THAT GOAL. 
          SO FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, DIRECTOR HAYDEN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S SUFFICIENT DOLLARS TO, TO REACH THAT GOAL? UH, AND OUR STATED GOALS, IS IT FOR FOLKS THAT ARE IN OUR LODGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM INTO HOUSING AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK OUT ON THE STREETS. 
          UH, THAT, THAT IS OUR GOALS. 
          UM, AS WE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST LAID PLANS, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WE CAN, WE CAN TO DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT PUSH VARIOUS BARRIERS. 
          BUT THAT IS, YES, AND WE, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE FOR, DO YOU MIND THE FUNDING IS THERE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, MAYOR, I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I'LL UH, YOU CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO ME LATER. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          AND ON THE DOLLARS THAT YOU HAVE, THE MONEY THAT COMES FROM THE CARES ACT, WE CAN APPLY A HUNDRED PERCENT ANYTHING WE'RE PAYING FOR WITH FEMA, WE HAVE TO PUT UP 25% IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE A MUTED AND YOU'RE MUTED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO RUMOR IS IT THE TREASURY GUIDELINES MAYBE SOFTEN AND WE MAY EVENTUALLY THEY MAY MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT WE CAN USE OUR ROTAVIRUS FARM TO PAY FOR THE 25% THAT'S JUST A RUMOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF WHY WE NEED A CONTINGENCY THAT WE CAN ADJUST IT WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF FOR HIM. 
          AND, AND RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THE 25% IS GOING TO COME OUT OF THE BUDGET OR THE GENERAL FUND SOMEWHERE, IS THAT RIGHT? UM, OR, OR ANY OPERATING DEPARTMENTS, BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S OTHER NON GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE QUOTED 19 RESPONSE, UM, THEIR BUDGETS WOULD BE HITTING THAT EXTRA 25%. 
          I WOULD JUST REITERATE IT AT A HIGH LEVEL. 
          THIS IS WHY I APPRECIATE STAFF LAYING IT OUT THIS WAY. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE THAT, THAT, THAT EVERY MONTH THESE NUMBERS COULD EASILY GET RE JUGGLED. 
          UH, AS WE SEE MORE BEING ABLE TO PREDICT RIGHT NOW WHAT THE LAY OF THE LAND IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE THROUGH DECEMBER IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY HARD THING TO DO. 
          AND AS WE ALL LOOK AT THE MODELS FOR HOW THIS DISEASE COULD RUN ITS COURSE, UM, MAYBE WE COULD BE LOOKING AT TWO MORE SURGES OR NO MORE SURGES. 
          UH, AND UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE ACTUALLY GOT TO 60,000 TESTS ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADDITIONAL SURGE, UH, WE PROBABLY AS I LOOK AT IT, UH, UNDER BUDGETED THEIR CONTACT TRACING, UH, CAPACITY THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY CONTACT TRACE THAT NUMBER OF TESTS OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ISOLATE THE VIRUS. 
          UM, SO FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM WHERE EVERYBODY SITS, EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANT TO ADD MORE DOLLARS TO WHERE I'M SITTING. 
          I WISH WE HAD MORE MONEY IN THE CONTINGENCY TO HELP WITH THAT. 
          JUST BECAUSE I'M S I'M JUST REAL SCARED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FALL. 
          BUT THEN I ALSO RECOGNIZE IF WE RUN INTO THAT IN THE FALL, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONES OUT. 
          OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE DOING THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S JUST SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THIS AND IF THEY AT LEAST EXPECTED TO MOVE SEVERAL TIMES. 
          CONTINUING ON. 
          YES. 
          COUNCILOR ELLIS PAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I KNOW I SAW A COUPLE OTHER HANDS, SO, AND MAYBE SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO TALK. 
          I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THE RENT PROGRAM, UH, BE, BE EXPANDED. 
          I KNOW THAT RENT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO PAY THE RENT AND SOMETIMES IT'S A LANDLORD WHO MAYBE ONLY HAS ONE EXTRA PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GIVE THEIR TENANT A BREAK AND, AND ALSO BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE ON IT. 
          SO I'M GLAD TO SEE AN INCREASE IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVEN MORE, BUT I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ELSE MAY BE COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE FINANCIALLY. 
          AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T REALLY BREAK THIS QUESTION. 
          SO IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT UPDATE RIGHT NOW, I'M OKAY TO DO THAT OFFLINE, BUT I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE IS AN EXPECTATION OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUNDING TO FOLLOW THE ORIGINAL CARES ACT OR IF WE KNOW THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A LOT 
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OF MOVING PARTS AND THAT MAY NOT BE NUMB RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH, I KNOW GRIEF FRANKLIN IS ON THE LINE IF SHE HAS ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE BILL THAT HAS PASSED AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS IS BRIEF BRONCO. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME GUYS? YES, YES. 
          HI. 
          BRIEF ONGOING GOING GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS OFFICER. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW COUNCIL MEMBER, THE SENATE, THE HOUSE HAS PROPOSED A BILL CALLED THE HEROES ACT. 
          THE IT IS NOT EXPECTED FOR THAT BILL TO PASS, BUT IT IS BEEN PASSED AS A STARTING NEGOTIATING PLACE. 
          BUT FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS THE SENATE HASN'T MET. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. 
          I WOULD NOT, THERE IS NO INFORMATION I CAN GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW TO BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO PLAN FOR FUTURE ALLOCATIONS FROM CONGRESS FOR THE STATE. 
          BE THAT BLUNT. 
          THAT'S STILL HELPFUL TO KNOW. 
          AT LEAST UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW RETURNING FOR US IS, IS HELPFUL TOO. 
          SO I APPRECIATE YOU KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. 
          I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TONE FROM THE SENATE IS THEY WANT TO SEE THIS MONEY ROLL OUT AND THEY WANT TO SEE HOW, WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO MORE GOING FORWARD. 
          THEY WANTED TO SEE HOW THE CARE'S IS USED BEFORE DOING HEROES OR DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY? YES. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING. 
          THEY WANT TO SEE HOW THIS MANY ROLLS OUT THEN TO DETERMINE, I'M SORRY. 
          THEN DETERMINING AFTER THAT WHAT THEY, WHERE THEY NEED TO FILL IN THE GAPS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          KEVIN. 
          LAURA HARPER, MADISON. 
          I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY AT THIS POINT THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT I'M DOING WRONG WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE ME CHAIR, UH, I, I DO GET TO REVEL IN THE FACT THAT MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING THE EXACT THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KASAR AND MAYOR PERTAIN BROUGHT UP A POINT THAT IS A POINT OF CONCERN FOR ME AND THAT THERE ARE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO WILL HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECEIVE FUNDING AND THEN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO GET ONE SHOT AT IT. 
          UM, IN WHICH CASE I REALLY WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. 
          THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT DURING THE COURSE OF LOOKING THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, THE NEWEST ITERATION OF THE DOCUMENT, UM, I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN TOUCHED ON THIS ALREADY AND AT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ELLIS ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS AND IN FACT, UM, UH, MAYOR OTHER, YOU TOUCHED ON IT TOO. 
          I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THE LIMITED SUPPLY HERE AND THE UNKNOWNS. 
          SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT US. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK IT COMES FROM RIVER FLOODING AND SAID THE THING ABOUT PRUDENCE, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SPENDING DOLLARS BY WAY OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO YOU KNOW, IN THAT ONE COLUMN WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY COULD POSSIBLY COME FROM, I'M VERY CONCERNED AT HOW MANY TIMES I SEE THE GENERAL FUND BEING REFERENCED AS THE SOURCE OF INCOME. 
          I MEAN THE SOURCE OF EXPENDITURE AND WHICH CASE WE JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT'S UP, WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE REIMBURSED FOR. 
          AND SO, UM, I KNOW  IS PROBABLY STILL ON THE LINE IN WHICH CASE I JUST, I HAVE SOME PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFIC SECTIONS. 
          SO, UM, IT'S BLOCKED OUT IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, FEMA ELIGIBLE CORONA VIRUS RELIEF, ELIGIBLE COMMUNITY BLOCK DEVELOPMENT, GRANT ELIGIBLE, HOMELESS EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS ELIGIBLE. 
          I, I JUST, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION TO WHERE WE ARE EXPENDING DOLLARS BY WAY OF THE GENERAL FUND WHEN WE DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE REIMBURSED. 
          IN WHICH CASE IS THERE SOME CALIBRATION WE SHOULD DO TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE DON'T INADVERTENTLY PUT OURSELVES IN A TIGHT SPOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WHATEVER MAY HAPPEN IN FIVE MONTHS COMES TO FRUITION. 
          I'M, I JUST, I HAVE SOME WORRIES THERE AND I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU COULD SAY TO ME AND MY COLLEAGUES OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT HOW WE ARE BEING VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT NOT EXTENDING FUNDS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY NOT BE REIMBURSED FOR OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. 
          I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, AND I THINK MAYBE THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR ME TO PUT INTO A MEMORANDUM AND SEND IT TO YOU CAUSE I'M GOING TO, UM, UM, GIVE YOU A BUNCH OF NUMBERS THAT I THINK WOULD PROBABLY 
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BE BETTER IN WRITING, BUT, BUT BROADLY TO YOUR QUESTION AND COUNCIL MEMBER PITCHES QUESTION ABOUT WHAT ARE THE SOURCES OF FUNDING IS $270 MILLION. 
          UM, OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE CORONA VIRUS RELIEF FUND. 
          THAT'S $170 MILLION. 
          ONE FEMA IS ANOTHER BIG SOURCE OF FUNDING. 
          SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THESE EXPENSES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT. 
          WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP THAT IS WORKING ON THAT AND OUTSIDE CONSULTANT THAT'S HELPING US THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, THAT PROCESS, THAT DOCUMENTATION PROCESS. 
          WE WOULD ANTICIPATE WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK, 50 TO $55 MILLION OF REIMBURSEMENTS FROM FEMA. 
          UM, WE ALSO RECEIVED MONEY FROM THE CARES ACT OR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM AND HOMELESS EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, VARIOUS OTHER SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNT OF GRANTS. 
          BUT UM, I'D SAY THE THREE BIG CHUNKS WOULD BE THAT FRONT OF IRIS RELIEF FUND OF $170 MILLION FEMA REIMBURSEMENT TO SAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50 MILLION. 
          WE ARE LOOKING TO ALL THOSE GENERAL FUNDS YOU SAW. 
          UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT OUR RESERVES WILL BE DRAWN DOWN ABOUT $25 MILLION OVER THE COURSE OF OUR RESPONSE TO THIS CRISIS. 
          NOW WE STARTED, WE ENTERED INTO THIS CRISIS IN A STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION WITH THE 12% RESERVE POLICY RESERVE POLICY. 
          BUT WE STARTED OUT CLOSE TO $26 MILLION ABOVE THAT 12% POLICY. 
          MMM. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE KEEP COMING BACK TO THEM WHEN WE SHOW MULTIPLE SOURCES IS THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY. 
          YES. 
          SOME OF THESE EXPENSES THAT WE'RE INCURRING WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO COME INTO PLAY THERE. 
          UM, AND, AND, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY AS COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS FRAMEWORK, UM, TO LOOK TOWARDS THE BEST USES FOR THESE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE GET OUT OF THEM. 
          UM, AND I AM STILL HOPEFUL. 
          I, UH, IT CONCERNS ME TO SAY THIS TO YOU, BUT I FEEL AS A BOARDER FOR YOU TO HERE, I AM HOPEFUL THAT WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK WE WILL BUILD THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR AND STILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE OUR QUOTE PERCENT RESERVE POLICY WILL DRAG DOWN OUR RESERVES SOME, BUT THROUGH THESE VARIOUS FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENTS, UM, AND FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE'RE, AND, AND THE HIRING FREEZE. 
          AND OTHER ACTIONS THE CITY IS TAKING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THIS IN A WAY WHERE WE CAN END THE FISCAL YEAR 4% POLICY LEVEL. 
          THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF THERE IS A RESURGENCE OF THE DISEASE, WE WOULD STILL HAVE A FULLY FUNDED EMERGENCY RESERVE TO TAKE ADDITIONAL ACTIONS AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COME FORWARD WITH ANY, WITH ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS. 
          SO I THINK YOUR POINTS WELL MADE, IT IS A KEY PART OF THIS FRAMEWORK, BUT PERHAPS THE WAY STAFF HAS PRESENTED IT, YOU KNOW, THE BROADER DYNAMICS, UM, AREN'T CLEAR, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY IN OUR, IN THE FRONT OF OUR MINDS. 
          AND I THINK, UM, THE FRAMEWORK ADDRESSES THESE ISSUES. 
          WELL, JOHN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I'M SORRY. 
          DO YOU MIND IF I HAVE, I THOUGHT HE WAS ALSO TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD AND YOU MIGHT BE ANSWERING MY QUESTION. 
          I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT, AND THIS IS SHOT THROUGH A LOT OF IT. 
          I THINK THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD IS THIS NOTION OF HOW DO I, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE USING THE MONEY AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN. 
          AND IN THE GROUP THAT I WAS WORKING WITH, WE CALLED THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PANEL. 
          THERE WERE A COUPLE OF FOLKS, PROFESSOR TANG AND PROFESSOR WRIGHT FROM OVER AT UT AND ANGELOS ANGELOU, CHARLES  REPAIR HIM AND ME A COUPLE OF OTHER FOLKS. 
          WE KIND OF STARTED USING THE WORD TRIAGE APPROACH AND WE DON'T MEAN THAT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LET PEOPLE DIE. 
          WHAT WE MEANT THAT TO SAY WAS WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER CAUSE OUR, WE'RE GOING TO SAY, LOOK, IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS AND YOU'VE GOTTEN A PAYCHECK PROTECTION LOAN, WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT ON THE FIRST LINE FOR US. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOTTEN AN ECONOMIC IMPACT RECOVERY LOAN AND THE IDL DISASTER, I GUESS IT'S CALLED THAT YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST LINE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN COMMERCIALLY RIGHT NOW. 
          IF YOU'RE ON UNEMPLOYMENT AND IT'S GOOD UNEMPLOYMENT, WE NEED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. 
          SO WE ARE IN THIS KIND OF FUNNY POSITION. 
          AND I WAS TO ALLUDE TO THIS EARLIER, THAT RIGHT NOW THERE IS THE STRONG LEVEL OF FEDERAL SUPPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT TO TRY TO SAY WE'RE HELPING THE PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS WHO AREN'T PARTICIPATING IN THAT LEVEL OF FEDERAL SUPPORT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT PHASE IS, OKAY, YOU NEED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, YOUR RENT'S 800 BUCKS A MONTH, BUT YOU'VE GOT 400 WE'VE GOT THE OTHER 400 AS OPPOSED TO HERE'S 800 BUCKS. 
          CAUSE AGAIN, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF TRYING TO MAKE NOT ENOUGH MONEY GO AS FAR AND AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AS WE ARE TRYING TO NAVIGATE ON THROUGH THIS KNOWING THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE OTHER SHOES TO FALL AS WE GET FURTHER INTO THE PROCESS. 
          SO I'LL CERTAINLY SAY THAT THAT THEN 
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HELPS, RIGHT? THAT THAT ADDITIONAL MEASURE IS HELPFUL. 
          BUT I JUST KEEP THINKING THROUGH LIKE FROM THIS, LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY COMPONENT. 
          UM, SOME OF THAT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH WE SHOULDN'T INCUR THOSE EXPENSES FROM OUR GENERAL FUNDS. 
          UM, UH, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER CASAR AND MAYOR PRETEND POINTED OUT. 
          IF YOU'RE A HOUSEKEEPER, YOU GET A ONE TIME ACCESS TO THIS FUNDING, BUT IF YOU'RE AN ARTIST, YOU GET MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS TO FUNDING. 
          AND SO I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M, I'M JUST VERY FEARFUL THAT GIVEN THAT I'M RECOGNIZING MORE AND MORE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE HEARING FROM, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES AND I, WE ALL GOT THE SAME EMAILS THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS, THAT SERIES OF EMAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT FUNDING, HOW WAS IT RECEIVED AND OR EXTENDED. 
          UM, WE WILL NEVER, AS A MUNICIPALITY WE WILL NEVER HAVE ENOUGH TO MEET THE NEED. 
          AND SO IN RECOGNIZING THAT, I'M JUST VERY FEARFUL THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE AS CONSCIENTIOUS AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND I THINK MR HOKAN, I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ASSURED MY, MY CONCERNS AND MY FEARS. 
          I MEAN, WHAT WILL NEVER MEET THE NEED, IN WHICH CASE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE RESPONSE AND HOW DO WE RESPOND GENERALLY TO THE PUBLIC WHEN WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE ED YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CUTS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, CONCESSIONS WE'RE MAKING WILL HELP US, BUT IT WON'T RELIEVE THE PRESSURE. 
          AND WITH CASE, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO BEGIN TO ANSWER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS WHEN THEY ASK US WHY WE CAN'T MEET THEIR NEEDS. 
          I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO BEGIN TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AROUND JUST LOOKING AT THESE FINITE NUMBERS. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THE COLUMNS, I'M LOOKING AT THE DOLLARS, I'M LOOKING AT WHERE THEY COME FROM AND NONE OF IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN MIGHT'VE, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST BROUGHT HIM HOME AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM MAKE SENSE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M ASKING A QUESTION SO MUCH AS MAKING A STATEMENT, BUT ANY ASSISTANCE THAT YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S MATHEMATICALLY INCLINED BRAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WORKS IN A WAY MINE DOESN'T, CAN OFFER ME TO OFFER EXPLANATION TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, THANKS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REAL QUICK. 
          POTENTIAL CARE IS FUNDING FOR ECONOMIC RECOVERY FOR ALL OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AN ITEM NEXT WEEK CONSIDERING AN ITEM THAT I'M BRINGING TO INITIATE A TEMPORARY PERMITTING PROGRAM TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES RECOVER MORE QUICKLY. 
          IT'S THE SHOP, THE BLOCK INITIATIVE THAT I POSTED ABOUT ON THE COUNCIL MESSAGE BOARD. 
          AND SO MY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS SINCE THE PURPOSE OF THAT PERMITTING PROGRAM IS ECONOMIC RECOVERY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY COVE ED. 
          WOULD WE BE ABLE TO WAIVE FEES FOR THE PERMITS AND RECOVER OUR STAFF COSTS UNDER CARES? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, COULD ADD THIS QUESTION COULD APPLY TO ANY OF THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE RUNNING. 
          CAN WE RECOUP ANY FUNDS THAT THE CITY MAY SPEND ON MARKETING OR EDUCATION TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY ABOUT AVAILABLE PROGRAMS? SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO MARKETING AT EDD, MAY DO, OR THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER DOES THAT SORT OF THING. 
          GOOD. 
          WHAT DO YOU THINK? ARE YOU, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THEM HERE OR SHALL I SUBMIT THEM AND LOOK FOR A WRITTEN RESPONSE? I THINK ON THE FIRST PART, RIGHT, IT PROBABLY BETTER HAVE A WRITTEN RESPONSE ON SOME OF THESE DECISIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IN THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM, HOW WE ACTUALLY WOULD SET IT UP, HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DOCUMENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT IT IS A PROGRAM THAT ECONOMICALLY SUPPORTS A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY POPE IN 19. 
          THAT'S THE GENERAL PARAMETER. 
          AND SO, UM, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS OF IT. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE BEST, UM, FUNDING SOURCES AVAILABLE TO US AS WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE PROGRAMS. AND SO YOU'RE GONNA KINDA WANT TO JUST KIND OF THAT FRAMEWORK WHEN YOU SEE ALL OF THOSE GENERAL FUNDS ABOUT IT AS ELIGIBLE FUNDING SOURCES AS OPPOSED TO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE ELIGIBLE SOURCES OR FUNDING ARE AND ASKING COUNCIL TO GIVE STAFF 
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THE FLEXIBILITY TO ACHIEVE YOUR PROGRAM POLICY GOALS WITHIN THE FUNDING WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US WHILE ALSO MANAGING THE BROADER CITY BUDGET AND YOUR BAND RESERVE POLICIES AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          THANKS FOR MENTIONING THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE ASK. 
          THAT'S PERMEATING ALL OF THE PRESENTATION TODAY FOR THE FLEXIBILITY. 
          UM, RECOGNIZING THAT TIMES ARE FLUID AND UNPREDICTABLE AND MAYOR, YOU OFTEN TALK ABOUT THE ITERATIVE PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO FINE TUNE THINGS. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. 
          I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS. 
          UH, UH, ALL THE EFFORTS THAT STAFF HAS PUT TOWARDS BRINGING TOGETHER THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE WILL BE REVISITING IT OVER TIME. 
          WE'LL BE ABLE TO BEND AND FLEX THE SAME WAY THE MONEY AS WELL. 
          AND AS TO MEETING EVERYBODY'S NEEDS. 
          I MEAN, THAT IS ONE OF THE HEAVY BURDENS THAT ANYBODY IN PUBLIC SERVICE IS ALWAYS CONFRONTED WITH. 
          WE LITERALLY CAN'T. 
          SO WE DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. 
          AND I THINK THE TRIAGE APPROACH THAT JOHN HAWKIN NURSE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THAT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IT. 
          UM, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE VERY EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT USE OF THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE BEING GIVEN AND THESE, UM, UH, CRISIS TIMES AND MAKE SURE THAT WHILE WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MEET EVERYBODY'S NEEDS A HUNDRED PERCENT OR MAYBE EVEN 75%, I'D LIKE TO SEE AS MANY PEOPLE HELPED SOME AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE TO JUST KEEP REVISITING AND REVIEWING AND SUPPORTING OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS FOR HOWEVER LONG WE'RE IN FOR HOWEVER LONG WE'RE IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          THANKS SO MUCH TO STAFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          YEAH. 
          I ALSO, UH, UH, SUPPORT THE, WAVING THE FEED. 
          SO SOME OF THESE SMALL RESTAURANTS WHEN WE COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM USE THE PARKING LOT OR MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN FRONT OF THE STREET AND, AND, AND GET IT TO THAT POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WAIVE THE FEES BECAUSE THE MORE BUSINESS THAT THESE RESTAURANTS DO AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO KEEP THEM FROM, UH, FROM STOPPING THEM. 
          RIGHT NOW THEY'RE OPERATING AT 25. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE RESTAURANT 50%, BUT IF WE CAN HELP THESE BUSINESSES, BUT OUT THERE THEY'RE FEEDING ARRANGEMENT, I THINK THEY WOULD PAY ANY WAIVING A FEE WILL PAY FOR ITSELF BECAUSE OF THE ADDED SALES TAX REVENUE THAT WE'LL BE COLLECTING. 
          SO, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT TRYING TO EXPERIMENT WITH SOME OF THIS KIND OF PROGRAMMING. 
          AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE THIS FIRST STEPHANIE CASE IS THAT I READ IN THE MORNING THAT THE GOAL WAS TO TEST 40,000 PEOPLE A MONTH. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING, WE SET, ARE WE GOING TO BE BUYING THOSE TEST KITS? AND IF WE ARE, DID WE SET ENOUGH MONEY ASIDE FOR THOSE KIDS CAUSE IT WAS JUST ALL 80,000 ON THIS, UH, UH, REPORT HERE ABOUT I IN 80,000 TEST KITS. 
          UM, YES. 
          SO, SO IN ALL WE ARE, UM, MAKING A PURCHASE OF, UM, A HUNDRED THOUSAND TEST KITS BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED, UM, 20,000, UM, EARLY ON AND WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THOSE. 
          AND, UM, WE'VE REQUESTED 2000 TEST KITS A WEEK FROM THE STATE AND SO WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM. 
          AND THEN, UM, WITHIN THAT PLAN ALSO, UM, BECAUSE THIS WAS A FEDERAL PLAN AND IT CALLS, UM, WE USE THE CDC GUIDELINES OR THE CONTACT TRACING IN CASE INVESTIGATION. 
          AND SO, UM, SO THAT THEY CALL FOR NINE, UM, INVESTIGATORS PER 100,000 PEOPLE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT ONE 15 AND HERE, BUT, AND INSIDE OF OUR BUDGET, UM, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY AND COUNTY HEALTH OFFICIALS, UM, CALLS FOR A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT. 
          UM, I THINK MY NUMBER IS 15. 
          AND SO WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED IN THIS BUDGET FOR 180 CONTACT TRACERS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          BUT WE'VE MET WITH OUR PARTNERS, UM, AND THEY ARE WILLING TO GO UP TO AT LEAST 65. 
          SO IN ALL WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE SCALABLE, TO HAVE ABOUT 245 CONTACT TRACES IN, IN INVESTIGATORS, UM, FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAUSE THAT'S, THAT SOUNDS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M VERY ALARMED BECAUSE 
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WHAT I'M SEEING RIGHT NOW THAT WITH THEY'RE NOT KEEPING THE SOCIAL DISTANCING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECOMMENDED AND I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, CASES OF, UH, OF INFECTION. 
          SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALISON. 
          ALTER. 
          THAT'S MY REALTOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, FIRST I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS A REALLY HELPFUL FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE HOW IT PRIORITIZES THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ARE CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE HERE IS SAYING NO, THOSE BUCKETS JUST STAY WHERE THEY ARE. 
          MAYBE WE NEED TO ADD A FEW THINGS MORE INTO THAT. 
          SO I THINK THAT OFFERS A SENSE OF, OF, OF CLARITY FOR US AS A COUNCIL ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES BEING ON THE HEALTH AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND, AND THE CONVERSATION CENTERED ON THE ECONOMIC SUPPORT. 
          AND I THINK, UM, THE BUCKETS ARE A HELPFUL WAY FOR THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          I WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUICK FACTUAL, UM, QUESTIONS AND THEN KIND OF MAKE A FEW, FEW COMMENTS. 
          SO I NOTICED THAT FOR UTILITIES, UM, WE ONLY CITED THE $10 MILLION OF DIRECT FINANCIAL SUPPORT, UM, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS 25 TO $35 MILLION IN RATE REDUCTIONS RUNNING THROUGH OCTOBER. 
          UM, AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO AN ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF HOW WE'RE HELPING FOLKS, UM, THAT WE SHOULD FIND A WAY, UM, TO CAPTURE THAT, UM, WITHIN THIS, WITHIN THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, OR AT LEAST TO NOTE IT SOMEWHERE. 
          I KNOW IT'S A REDUCTION IN FEE AND SO IT'S, IT'S A BIT, IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT REGARD. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK, UM, WHEN DIRECTOR HAYDEN MENTIONED THE HOMELESSNESS FUNDING SOURCES WITH THE CBG AND THE ESG OR WHATEVER THE ALPHABET SOUP IS, ARE THOSE NUMBERS, ARE THOSE NUMBERS ALREADY IN THIS TOTAL OR ARE THOSE ADDITIONAL TO THIS NUMBER? SO WE TALK ABOUT SHOCKED ABOUT THE 170, BUT IS THIS ALSO THE CARES ACT, HUD MONEY CALCULATE IN OR IS THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND IT? NO, THAT, THAT, THAT PERIOD, THE, THE HUD FUNDING IS ALSO PART OF THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE BUSINESS BUCKET, THERE WAS THE 10 MILLION OR 11 MILLION WE HAD WITH, UM, THE CLEAR FUND AND THEN THERE WAS THAT BALANCE. 
          BUT THEN IT SAYS GENERAL FUND FOR THAT ONE. 
          UM, IS THAT ONE ANOTHER ONE THAT ALSO HAS GENERAL FUND OR IS THAT JUST, IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          IT COULD COME FROM GENERAL FUNDS. 
          IT'S JUST A POTENTIAL, IT'S A, IT'S A, AN APPROPRIATE FUNDING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS MISSING FROM HERE, FROM THE ECONOMICS, THE BOARD, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE DOING GENERALLY, IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FEDERAL PROGRAMS AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS STEPPED UP AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE AND I HOPE THEY'LL DO MORE, BUT WE JUST GOT AN EMAIL IF YOU'RE AN AISC ABOUT A FOOD PROGRAM. 
          THERE WAS ALSO AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES ABOUT HOW THIS FOOD AID WAS NOT REACHING CHILDREN. 
          UM, AND THAT FAMILIES WERE ELIGIBLE FOR SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS IN FOOD RELIEF, UM, THROUGH CARDS THAT THEY WERE DISTRIBUTING, BUT THAT, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HADN'T ACCESS THAT YET. 
          AND SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HAVING SORT OF CASE MANAGERS FOR BUSINESSES, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WE HAVE ANY KIND OF CASE MANAGERS FOR INDIVIDUALS HELPING THEM TO FIND THE AID. 
          I KNOW WE DID THE ATTACKS, UM, SUPPORT FROM FOUNDATION COMMUNITIES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MAY BE A LOT OF WAYS TO GET ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO HELP PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THEY MAY NOT KNOW OUT. 
          UM, BUT THAT WE COULD HAVE AN IMPORTANT CONVENING ROLE OR CONNECTING ROLE. 
          UM, SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE COVERED IN HERE ANYWAY? UM, WE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT COVERED IN THERE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IS WE CAN REACH OUT TO AISD, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THE, THE UM, CITY FUNDS, UH, A PORTION OF THEIR PARENT SUPPORT SPECIALIST SALARY. 
          UM, AND, UM, ON CALL YESTERDAY, DR. CRUZ, UM, SPOKE ABOUT HAVING THEM TO WORK SOME THIS SUMMER AND SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM AND COORDINATE WITH THEM ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE MAY BE CHILDREN WHO ARE NOT IN AISD AND THAT WAS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL TO BE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR TAX REFUND OR, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THAT WE MAY LIKE, IT MAY BE USEFUL FOR 
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US TO HELP PEOPLE GET THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FASTER AND SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD FIT, UM, IN THIS FRAMEWORK BECAUSE THERE MAY JUST BE A LOT OF MONEY THERE. 
          UM, I WANT TO JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, THEN I, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THOSE. 
          SO, UM, TUFTS NUMBER CASSARA MENTIONED THE PUBLIC HEALTH MONEY THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING RELIEF TO FOLKS WHO TESTED POSITIVE OR WERE IN QUARANTINE. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UM, AND THAT MAYBE THAT SHOULD GO INTO PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          UM, AND, AND I DON'T REALLY CARE WHICH BUCKET THAT'S IN, BUT, BUT I DO THINK THAT IS A FORM OF DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IF IT'S TARGETED. 
          SO IT ALSO HELPS THE PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          UM, WE HAD A PROVISION IN RISE THAT FOCUSED US ON THAT. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, BUT THAT IS DIRECT FINANCIAL RELIEF AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE HELPING FOLKS TO ARE IN THOSE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS BECAUSE THAT FUNDING IS TARGETED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AN 80% MFI. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYONE WHO'S POSITIVE GETS THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IF THEY CAN'T DEMONSTRATE ME. 
          UM, SO, SO I JUST THINK THAT IS AN ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL, UM, HELP THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, SO ON THIS SORT OF GENERAL QUESTION OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, I WOULD SUPPORT, UM, PROVIDING SOME MORE OF THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GET A BETTER SENSE OF HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE THAT FROM. 
          UM, AND ALSO TO RECOGNIZE HOW MUCH IS THERE ALREADY IN HERE. 
          UM, IN VARIOUS WAYS. 
          UM, I HEAR LOUD AND CLEAR AND THEIR CONCERN ABOUT SOME GROUPS HAVING ACCESS TO THAT BUCKET MULTIPLE TIMES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE, WE MAY NEED FLIP SOME THINGS AROUND FOR, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE NONPROFITS. 
          AND I'M SORRY THAT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM IS NOT HERE. 
          UM, THAT FUNDING IS CRITICAL FOR THOSE NONPROFITS TO BE THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THAT THEY HELP OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT WAS DESIGNED TO HELP THEM MAKE IT THROUGH THIS PERIOD. 
          THOSE NONPROFITS HAVE CASH ON HAND FOR MAYBE TWO TO THREE MONTHS, OTHERWISE THEY GO UNDER, UM, AND THEY'RE CRITICAL PARTNERS FOR US. 
          UM, AND THAT'S FUNDING, UM, WHEN YOU TAKE OFF OF THE HEAD OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND NEED TO RAISE SORT OF SOME OF THAT BASIC CAPITAL, THEY ARE REALLY ABLE TO FOCUS ON THE DELIVERY OF THE SERVICES THAT THEY ARE DELIVERING AND THAT IS THE HARDEST FUNDING FOR THEM TO GET. 
          UM, WHAT WE HAVE HEARD WITH RESPECT TO THE RISE FUND AND THE NONPROFITS IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE FOR THE OPERATING SUPPORT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE ADDRESS ELSEWHERE, BUT I THINK THAT KIND OF BASIC MONEY GIVEN THE NUMBER OF NONPROFITS WE HAVE, UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          UM, WHETHER THEY'RE DELIVERING THE DIRECT SERVICES, UM, OR NOT. 
          UM, THE FINAL THING, I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECOVERY PHASE THAT MR. HOPKINS HAS TALKED ABOUT. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TRIAGE AND WE'RE DOING A LOT, THIS BUDGET IS EXTREMELY HEAVY ON THE FIRST PHASES. 
          UM, AND NOW THAT WE ARE SEVERAL MONTHS INTO THIS, I THINK WE DO NEED TO THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT RECOVERY LOOKS LIKE, WHAT A WORLD LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE 25% UNEMPLOYMENT AND THERE ARE NO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HEPPER MADISON HAS TALKED SEVERAL TIMES IN VARIOUS FORUMS I'VE BEEN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO REINVENT HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE WORKFORCE AND WE NEED TO HELP FOLKS TO, TO PIVOT, UM, WITH HOW THEY'RE WORKING AND OTHER THINGS. 
          AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M PLEASED TO SEE 2 MILLION IN THERE FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO THINK SERIOUSLY ABOUT WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE MORE MONEY FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OR IF SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS MONEY HAS TO BE FOCUSED ON HELPING, UM, BUSINESSES TO PIVOT BECAUSE WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THE RENT WE WANT, BUT IF THERE ARE NO JOBS THERE IN THREE MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS, UM, AND NO ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP US THROUGH, WE WON'T HAVE BRIDGED SUCCESSFULLY. 
          UM, AND THERE'S NO EASY ANSWERS HERE. 
          UM, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MR. HAWKINS WHO I THINK HAS THIS HANDS UP, UM, OF THE GESTURE OF HOW WE MAKE THAT RECOVERY PIECE. 
          I'M, I'M LEARNING TO GO BACK TO THIRD GRADE, RIGHT? AND RAISE MY HAND TO BE, TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT COUNCIL MEMBER AND IN FACT I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS BEGINNING. 
          WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THE, AT LEAST BEGIN PEOPLE BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE PULL TOGETHER AS DIFFERENT INSTITUTIONS IN THE CITY, WHETHER IT'S OUR DIFFERENT PUBLIC SECTOR JURISDICTIONS, DIFFERENT PRIVATE SECTOR, ECONOMIC 
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DEVELOPMENT GROUPS, PHILANTHROPY, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. 
          HOW DO WE ALL MEET TOGETHER IN TERMS OF BOTH RESOURCES AND A COORDINATED EFFORT TO RESPOND TO INEVITABLY WHAT IS GOING TO BE A CHANGED ECONOMIC LANDSCAPE AS YOU RIGHTLY POINT OUT AND DEVELOP A PLAN THAT SETS US ON THE PATH TO WORKING THROUGH THAT. 
          AND THAT COULD HAVE IMPACT ON SKILLS DEVELOPMENT, IT COULD HAVE IMPACT ON HELPING EXISTING BUSINESSES EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS FOOTPRINT. 
          IT COULD HAVE SOME IMPACT POTENTIALLY IN RECRUITING NEW BUSINESSES TO THE AREA. 
          IT BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE DON'T KNOW YET. 
          AND ONE OF THE ENCOURAGING CONVERSATIONS THAT ALL OF THIS REALLY STARTS BEST WITH BOTH CONVERSATION DATA AND WE'RE BEGINNING TO GET SYNDICATIONS OF WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS WAS TELLING US THAT THEY ARE CLOSE. 
          I WOULD SAY WITHIN A MONTH OR SO OF HAVING A REALLY ROBUST DATA ANALYSIS SYSTEM ABOUT WHO'S ACTUALLY IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE PROGRAM, NOT JUST WHO THEY ARE BUT THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS, THEIR OCCUPATION OR EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, THEIR PREVIOUS INCOME, ALL THESE OTHER SKILLSETS, ALL THIS DIFFERENT KIND OF INFORMATION. 
          IF WE CAN USE THAT AS KIND OF A FOUNDATION IN BUILD ON THAT SO THAT WE BETTER UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE BUT THE BUSINESS IS INVOLVED IN MARRIOTT ALL UP, WE CAN THEN REALLY BEGIN TO SAY WHO ARE WE, WHERE ARE OUR SHORTCOMINGS AND WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO FROM HERE AND BUILDING THIS RECOVERY PLAN. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK THIS IS IN THE BACK OF THE MIND OF A LOT OF FOLKS TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY. 
          WHAT THAT'S REALLY SAYING IS WE'VE GOT TO KEEP SOME DRY POWDER CAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE ROAD. 
          I THINK AS YOU CORRECTLY POINTED OUT, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME RESOURCES AND I KNOW THAT'S A BALANCE, BUT SOME RESOURCES THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TIED UP YET SO THAT WE ARE A POSITION TO TAKE THE RESULTS OF WHAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE THIS CODE OF COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY PROCESS AND REALLY PUT IT INTO ACTION. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE HEARING ABOUT THAT EFFORT. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT NONETHELESS, WE'RE NOT REALLY GIVING OURSELVES MUCH ROOM IN HERE IF WE THINK WE NEED A LOT OF CONTINGENCIES FOR THE EMERGENCY OR PUBLIC HEALTH TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE PIVOT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE KNOW THERE OPPORTUNITIES TODAY TO INVEST IN FURTHER NURSING, UM, EDUCATION AND, AND OTHER, OTHER KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THE CONTACT TRACING COULD BE, UM, REWORKED, UM, FOR WORKFORCE THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IN COMBINATION WITH OUR BUDGET, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT WORKFORCE COMPONENT. 
          UM, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PAY THE RENT OVER MULTIPLE MONTHS EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVEN A JOB THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS. UM, OR BECAUSE THEY'VE GAINED SKILLS THAT LET THEM GET GET JOBS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MUCH MORE THAN WE'RE DOING AND THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IN THIS FRAMEWORK IS I JUST DON'T, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT IS GIVING US THAT UNLESS WE RELY ON THE CONTINGENCIES, WHICH I THINK ARE RIGHTLY IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND EMERGENCY AREA. 
          JUST JUST REAL QUICKLY AND THEN I'LL SHUT UP. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HOPE WOULD HAPPEN WOULD BE THAT SOURCES OF FUNDING WERE JOINED WITH THE CITY, SO TO MULTIPLY THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS AREN'T FAR ENOUGH ALONG YET TO SORT OF CALL OUT WHO THAT MIGHT BE OR HOW MUCH MIGHT BE INVOLVED. 
          BUT IDEALLY THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WOULD BE THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO JUST RELY ON CITY RESOURCES AND CARE FUNDING TO CARRY THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. 
          WELL, IT'S A MEMBER. 
          IF I COULD ADD ON TO THAT I, TO ED'S POINT, WE ARE TRYING TO BE FLEXIBLE AND NIMBLE IN THE FRAMEWORK AS WELL. 
          WE CERTAINLY GET THAT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS A HUGE ISSUE AND CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING NOW ON HOW WE CAN BE A PART OF THAT PARTNERSHIP. 
          BUT, UH, WE DO SEE THAT THERE'S, THERE MIGHT BE SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WE NEED AND, AND MOVING FUNDS AROUND SO THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT AS THAT BECOMES MORE APPARENT AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          KATHY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE THEN? HUMIRA? I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. 
          I THINK I WILL TACKLE FIRST ONE OF MY OVERALL QUESTIONS AND THEN SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT RENT AND THEN, AND THEN MAYBE SAVE, SAVE SOME OF THE OTHER ONES FOR SECOND ROUND. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WITH UM, UH, BENZINO ABOUT THE CHART AND HOW THE FUNDING SOURCES ARE LISTED. 
          AND IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT I THINK THE SECOND TIME YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT AS AVAILABLE OR VIABLE FUNDING SOURCES, BUT I, I GUESS I WOULD, WHAT, UH, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO ME, AND I THINK IT'S THE PERSPECTIVE THAT ALL OF YOU ARE OPERATING UNDER, IS THAT WE USE THE MOST ELIGIBLE, THAT WE USE OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS BEFORE WE USE 
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RESERVE FUNDING. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT IT AND THE WAY THAT CARLA USED TO TALK ABOUT KIND OF A FLOW OF FUNDS, I HOPE OUR FLOW OF FUNDS WILL ALWAYS BE TO SEEK OUT THOSE FEMA DOLLARS OR THE MORE GENERAL FEDERAL FUNDING BEFORE WE RELY ON MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY WITHIN OUR OPERATING BUDGET SO THAT WE ARE GETTING REIMBURSED FOR AS MANY THINGS AS POSSIBLE, UM, FOR THOSE NEW EXPENSES. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT KIND OF THE WAY YOU WERE CONCEIVING OF IT AT? AND I GUESS MY QUESTION, MY SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE ARE, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF ALL HANDS ON DECK AND EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY IS WORKING ON THIS. 
          I WONDER, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU OR THE MANAGER. 
          MY SECONDARY PART OF THAT QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THERE A ONE STAFF MEMBER WHO IS GOING TO OVER GOING TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IN EVERY CASE WE HAD A CONVERSATION FOR EXAMPLE ABOUT THE RENT RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          I MADE THE AMENDMENT LAST WEEK OR WHENEVER WE HAD A MEETING TO REPLENISH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND SINCE THAT'S LIKELY AN ELIGIBLE EXPENSE UNDER THE FEDERAL MONEY SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE'RE PRESERVING OUR MORE FLEXIBLE FUNDING FOR THE FUTURE. 
          BUT IS THERE, GIVEN THAT THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AGAIN ACROSS THE CITY, IS THERE A ONE, UM, STAFF MEMBER WHO'S GOING TO BE SORT OF THE OMBUDSMAN OF THE SPENDING DECISIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS USING SO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS, UM, THE FLOW OF FUNDS IS ALWAYS THE MOST, THE MOST BENEFICIAL IN TERMS OF PRESERVING OUR FLEXIBLE FUNDING FOR FLEXIBLE OPTIONS. 
          AND I SHOULD JUST SAY AS A CAVEAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT HOW CARLA USED, SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT, BUT I JUST LIKED THAT EXPRESSING, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT OF THE DECISION MAKING APPARATUS THAT HAS TO BE DEPLOYED FOR THIS KIND OF, UM, OPERATION. 
          WELL STAR COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          THEN HAVE ED CHIME IN AS WELL. 
          BUT ED HAS PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT HAS REALLY GUIDED THIS DISCUSSION ACROSS THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INCREDIBLE PROFESSIONAL EXPERTS, UH, IN OUR CITY ORGANIZATION AND AS THEY LOOK AT WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE DOING WITHIN THESE PROGRAMS, WITHIN THESE FUNDS, THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN REAL TIME. 
          AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, ED'S REALLY LEADING THAT GROUP, BUT IT IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT ACROSS THE TEAM AND WE CAN BRING BACK THAT SLIDE TO SHOW YOU WHO'S ALL PART OF THAT GROUP AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THIS CALL RIGHT NOW. 
          AND DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE LEVEL OF FUNDS, I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THE TERM HERE. 
          AND I THINK YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO FIRST LOOK TO FEMA. 
          UM, ANYTHING THAT'S REIMBURSABLE FOR FEMA WILL BE OUR FIRST GO TO. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE LIKE MOST LARGE CITIES, MOST CITIES. 
          WE HAVE A CONSULTANT THAT'S AN EXPERT IN FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS AND IT'S SOMETHING HAS GUIDED US THROUGH THAT GOVERNMENT PROCESS. 
          AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO DOCUMENT OUR EXPENSES AND WE'LL GO TO THE THEME OF FIRST, UM, NICK ROTAVIRUS RELIEF FUND NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT SECOND BECAUSE THERE'S TIMELINES AND IN REGARDS TO WHEN THAT FUNDING NEEDS TO BE USED. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME COMBINATION OF THE HUD FUNDS AND THE GENERAL FUND AFTER THAT. 
          AND MAYBE JUST DEPENDING UPON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, MAYBE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT MAKES MORE SENSE AND MOST ADVANTAGEOUS TO US FOR US TO DEPLOY THE HUD FUNDS. 
          UM, AND, AND OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          MAYBE IT WOULD BE THE DENTAL PLAN, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BROADLY BE THE, THE, WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE FINISH LINE TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S GOING TO PLAY OUT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE ON ALL THESE FUNDING SOURCES. 
          UM, KIND OF MORE SO WHAT WOULD BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FUNDING SOURCES AND ANY KIND OF STATEMENT ABOUT RESTORE. 
          THIS IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FROM THESE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. 
          I GUESS, I MEAN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE PRIORITY THAT WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IS THAT THE PRIORITIZATION WILL ALWAYS BE FOR THOSE FEDERAL SOURCES FIRST BEFORE WE LOOK TO GENERAL FUND TO YOU OFFER THAT THERE MIGHT BE SITUATIONS IN WHICH IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO USE GENERAL FUND SOURCES AND I'M NOT, I GUESS WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, BUT I WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT ARE THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES GIVEN THAT NO, WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER DEMANDS ON THAT. 
          WELL IT SAYS THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AND LIMITS TO HOW WE USE THESE DIFFERENT PUDDLES. 
          FUNDING'S FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES AND SO WE'D BE LOOKING TO THE GENERAL FUND REALLY AS A, AS A, AS A LAST RESORT. 
          THERE'S PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO FUND AND COUNCILS WANTING TO FUND THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE BUDGET. 
          THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY, I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WOULD MAKE THAT A PRIORITY FUND OVER ONE OF THE FEDERAL. 
          IF IT'S JUST NOT ELIGIBLE UNDER THE OTHERS. 
          UM, THEN COME IN. 
          I DID WANT TO MAKE, 
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I SEE THAT THE FOOD ASSISTANCE IS IN HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, FOR HAVING THAT IN THERE. 
          THAT IS TO, JUST TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT, UM, I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL, I THINK I NEEDED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING ACTUALLY IN THIS PIECE. 
          SO BEFORE I TALK ABOUT, BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOUSING, I WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. 
          SO FOOD ASSISTANCE IS 5.4. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'VE ALREADY, UM, COMMITTED TO WITH REGARD TO THE CAREGIVER MEALS IN DEL VALLEY AND IN AISD AMOUNTS TO 2.2 MILLION. 
          AND SO IS THAT ADDITIONAL 2.2 ALREADY EXPENDED THROUGH RISE? UH, YES. 
          UM, THAT ADDITIONAL 2.2 MILLION, UM, FOR FOOD ASSISTANCE WENT TO THE CAPITAL AREA FOOD BANK. 
          SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THEN THAT FIGURE DOES NOT INCLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF UM, ASSISTING IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO I KNOW IN OUR, IN OUR, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES CABINET, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYNOR ISD AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISD AND I'LL LET COUNSEL MEMBER HARPER MADISON, UM, TALK ABOUT ABOUT THAT ISSUE, BUT WE KNOW THERE IS NEED BEYOND JUST AISD AND DEL VALLEY. 
          AND I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THIS DOLLAR FIGURE DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT EXPANSION. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO JUST SAY IT IS CERTAINLY FOOD ASSISTANCE, BUT I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT THIS IS ALSO ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WITH AISD, UH, THE, THE VENDORS THEY HAVE CONTRACTED WITH TO PREPARE THOSE MEALS ARE PRIMARILY, UM, RESTAURANTS, IN FACT ENTIRELY RESTAURANTS. 
          AND SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY ASSISTANCE TO OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          IT'S REALLY AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, PROGRAM RIGHT NOW FOR ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW TO OUR, OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN SO IMPACTED WITH DELL VALLEY. 
          THEY ARE ALSO CONTRACTING WITH ONE VENDOR OR WE ARE CONTRACTING WITH ONE VENDOR. 
          BUT THAT VENDOR, UM, IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO REEMPLOY INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE LAID OFF DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME. 
          SO IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, WHILE IT IS CERTAINLY PROVIDING THAT BASIC NEED, MEETING, THAT BASIC NEED FOR THE FAMILIES WHO WILL BENEFIT FROM IT IS ALSO AN ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE. 
          SO HOW ARE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT I THINK IS, IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, AND JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAD THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THAT'S HOW THAT'S WORKING. 
          MAY OR HAVE I USED UP MY QUESTION TIME OR CAN I MOVE ON TO RENT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          LET'S PASS IT AROUND. 
          WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU AND THERE AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH ROUND TWO, YOU KNOW, STAFF WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER FROM COUNCIL AS A NEXT STEP FROM THIS CONVERSATION. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THIS CAME FROM A RESOLUTION THAT WAS FROM COUNCIL AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS FRAMEWORK HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN GUIDING THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UH, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME AND IT WILL EVOLVE. 
          AND WE, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AS WE CHART OUR COURSE INTO THE NEXT COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS. 
          UH, SO I COULD SEE A RANGE OF OPTIONS FOR POSSIBLE NEXT STEP, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ATTACHING THIS FRAMEWORK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, UH, FOR A VOTE. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT. 
          UH, YOU COULD ALSO CHOOSE TO VOTE ON JUST THE BIG CATEGORIES OF, OF, OF SPENDING IF YOU WILL, THOSE THREE BIG BUCKETS AND THE, AND THE AMOUNTS UNDERNEATH. 
          WE COULD ALSO JUST DO A, A KIND OF A FIST TO FIVE IF YOU WILL, IN THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW JUST TO SEE IF WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, THAT WE ARE, UH, ADHERING TO THE GENERAL, UH, CATEGORIES AND, AND WAYS IN WHICH COUNCIL WANTS STAFF TO BE DIRECTING THIS FUNDING WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO UPDATE COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND AS WE LEARN MORE. 
          AND SO I JUST, I PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS NEXT ROUND AND ASK QUESTIONS, ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GET. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S DO ANOTHER ROUND. 
          IT IS A THREE 40, UH, AND OKAY. 
          JUST TO QUICKLY LET ME THINK. 
          THE STAFF, UH, AND RE RESPOND TO, UM, CITY MANAGER'S QUESTION. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY FEEL THAT WE HAVE, BUT FIRST OFF, I APPRECIATE THE STAFF PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT EVERYBODY HAS ARTICULATED AND THE IMPORTANCE OF CONTINGENCIES AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          I AM, UH, OPEN TO WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IN TERMS OF, OF HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, I, I THINK THIS, I AGREE WITH THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          I THINK 
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THIS GENERAL FRAMEWORK IS, IS A GOOD FRAMEWORK. 
          I'M OPEN TO SOME MOVING OF THINGS AROUND IF THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. 
          UM, BUT I THINK ALL IN ALL THE GENERAL FRAMEWORK AND THE TOTAL DOLLARS WE HAVE IN EACH OF THE, EACH OF THE THREE BIG BUCKETS MAKES SENSE TO ME. 
          AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO JUST VOTE ON THOSE BIG BUCKETS IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO GET MORE GRANULAR PEOPLE PREFER TO DO THAT. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON A FEW THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID. 
          YOU KNOW, REALLY WE, WE'VE, WE HAVE SAID THAT THIS IS ABOUT BALANCE AND IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A COMBINATIONS OF THING. 
          IT'S ABOUT, ABOUT A BALANCE. 
          IT'S ABOUT TRIAGED AND RECOVERY. 
          HOW MUCH DO WE PUT INTO JUST IMMEDIATE HELP AND HOW MUCH DO WE LOOK TO RECOVERY? BECAUSE I THINK AS, UM, SOMEONE SAID, IF WE, WE, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE JOBS THEN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE RECOVERY AND PEOPLE ARE NOT, PEOPLE NEED INCOME AND THEY NEED JOBS AT THE END OF THE DAY. 
          SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE BASIC NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE TO LIVE? WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, WE HELP MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUSINESSES RECOVER. 
          SO WE HAVE JOBS FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO. 
          SO, AND THAT'S THE HARD BALANCE THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO REACH RIGHT NOW. 
          I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THE OTHER KIND OF THING THAT WE'RE BALANCING IS DIRECT CARE OR NOT DIRECT CARE, BUT DIRECT DOLLARS VERSUS BUCKETS OF DOLLARS. 
          AND WE'VE DONE THAT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN SAID THAT YOU'VE GOT MENTIONED THAT YOU LOVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE FOOD ASSISTANCE, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UTILITY ASSISTANCE, ASSISTANCE FOR VULNERABLE FOLKS. 
          THE RISE FUND, THOSE ALL GET AT BASIC NEEDS. 
          SO THEN THEY GET ON THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          THE RISE FUND IS MORE OF A DIRECT, DIRECT DOLLARS THAT COVERS A RANGE OF, OF NEEDS. 
          WHEREAS RENTAL ASSISTANCE IS A BUCKET FOR A PARTICULAR NEED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITIES WAS A BUCKET FOR A PARTICULAR NEED. 
          FOOD IS A BUCKET FOR A PARTICULAR NEED. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BETTER, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A MIX OF THOSE GOING ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT UNLESS WE PUT MORE DOLLARS INTO DIRECT, UM, INTO A, A BUCKET THAT GIVES DIRECT, UH, DOLLARS WITHOUT A PARTICULAR TYPE OF SERVICE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, I'M OPEN TO PUTTING MORE DOLLARS INTO THE RISE FUND, BUT IF WE DON'T, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT COVERING RENTAL AND FOOD AND UTILITY AND OTHER BASIC NEEDS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THE, WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, DIRECT VERSUS BUCKETS. 
          IN THE BUSINESS SECTOR SECTOR, WE'VE IDENTIFIED BUCKETS FOR SMALL BUSINESS. 
          WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, BUCKETS FOR NONPROFITS. 
          WE'VE IDENTIFIED BUCKETS FOR CREATIVES AND I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT, THAT, THAT CREATIVES HAVE, HAVE MORE MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS THAN OTHERS DO. 
          WE HAVE CREATED MULTIPLE POINTS OF ACCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE A MIX OF DIRECT AND BUCKETS OF TYPES. 
          SO INDIVIDUALS HAVE MULTIPLE, BUT ANY INDIVIDUAL HAS A MULTIPLE BUCKETS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FOR FOOD, FOR THE RISE FUND, FOR UTILITIES. 
          UM, AND THE BUSINESS SECTOR, YOU MAY HAVE A CREATIVE, YOU MAY HAVE A MUSIC, UH, PERSON WHO'S A SMALL BUSINESS WHO MAY HAVE ACCESS TO A SMALL BUSINESS FUND AS WELL AS THE MUSIC. 
          SO, UM, SO I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL IN HOW WE CHARACTERIZE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS UNFAIR IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S ACCESS TO DOLLARS. 
          WE MAY DECIDE AND IT MAY MAKE MORE SENSE TO PUT MORE INTO A BUCKET THAT JUST GIVES PEOPLE DIRECT DOLLARS THAT THEY CAN THEN SEE WHAT THEY NEED TO SPEND THE DOLLARS ON. 
          IN A LOT OF WAYS THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, BUT IT'S NOT INHERENTLY MORE FAIR THAN A BUCKET FOR RENTAL OR A BUCKET FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR UTILITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER PISSARRO I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WOULD NEVER CHARACTERIZE, UH, GIVING FUNDS FOR THE CREATIVE SECTOR AS, AS PULLING OUT A CERTAIN TYPE OF PERSON AND NOT RECOGNIZING ANOTHER CERTAIN TYPE OF WORK AND NOT RECOGNIZING ANOTHER TYPE. 
          TO ME IT'S MORE AKIN TO THE SMALL BUSINESS BUCKET AND THE, UM, SMALL BUSINESS BUCKET AND THE NONPROFIT BUCKET. 
          IT'S ABOUT WORK. 
          IT'S ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO PRODUCE INCOME AND HAVE A BUSINESS, 
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WHICH IS A TYPE OF NEED I THINK. 
          NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SEE MORE IN BASIC SERVICES AND THAT PERHAPS THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THE RISE FUND HAS WORKED. 
          BUT I JUST WANT TO SPEAK CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I, THIS IS MY MIND. 
          THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT THE PERSON IN THIS BUCKET IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A PERSON IN THIS BUCKET. 
          IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DIFFERENT AVENUES IN WHICH PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD CHOOSE TO JUST SAY, WE DON'T NEED ALL THESE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY FOR BASIC NEEDS, EVERYBODY GETS X DOLLARS. 
          AND FOR BUSINESS EVERYBODY GETS X DOLLARS. 
          AND THEN WE DON'T TRY TO DIVIDE IT BY TYPES. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE. 
          SO AGAIN, ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL. 
          I WANT TO BE, I PERSONALLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL. 
          SO, UM, SO THEN THE LAST THING IS THAT I, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO, UM, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE ACCESS FOR SMALLER LANDLORDS. 
          I THINK I HEARD ROSIE SAY, UM, DIRECTOR TO LET'S SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME EFFORTS HAPPENING IN THAT REGARD AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HER AGAIN IF SHE HAS A TIMELINE IN MIND FOR THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY WHAT SHE WAS THINKING MIGHT HAPPEN IN THAT AREA. 
          SURE. 
          HI COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UM, WE ARE, I HAVE A MEETING SET UP WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND ABE OR ON TUESDAY AFTERNOON TO HELP, UM, KIND OF DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINKING AND CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT ISSUE. 
          UM, RECOGNIZING THAT THE CURRENT RENT PROGRAM IS SET UP REALLY AS MORE, UM, TENANT FOCUSED, THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR THE LANDLORDS THAT ARE HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, BEING GHOSTED BY THEIR, BY THEIR TENANTS. 
          UM, AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER WE ESTABLISH THAT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TIE FOR RENT, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO TIE THE ASSISTANCE BACK TO A LOW INCOME INDIVIDUAL WHO'S BEEN IMPACTED BY COVET. 
          SO THEY DON'T MESH WELL TOGETHER IN THAT RESPECT. 
          BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE THE NEED. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA JUST HAVE SOME MEETINGS, UH, UH, VERONICA PERSONNEL WILL BE INCLUDED ON THAT FROM THE CITY SIDE AND WE'LL START TO BRAINSTORM AND TROUBLESHOOT THE PROBLEM THERE. 
          WELL, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO, TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THAT WORK. 
          FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. 
          IT'S ALL ABOUT RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND I SEE THE SMALLER LANDLORDS AS ANOTHER AVENUE, UH, FOR, FOR REACHING THAT SAME GOAL. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT. 
          UM, FINALLY, I KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, I THINK MAYBE FOR JOHN, HOW CAN YOU ANSWER FOR OTHERS? I HAVEN'T SEEN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS, THE IMPORTANCE OF MARRYING UP THE NEED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          AND I HAVEN'T SEEN DATA THAT SHOWS ME WE'RE DOING, I MEAN I'VE SEEN SOME DATA, SOME DATA IN DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE SHOWS ME THAT WE HAVE RENTAL NEEDS OR WE HAVE THIS DATA, WE HAVE THAT, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SEEING THE, THE KIND OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS, UH, THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, AND THE NEEDS THAT WE SEE, WHETHER THOSE ARE IMMEDIATE, BASIC NEEDS FOR TRIAGE OR WHETHER THERE ARE TO GET OUR ECONOMY GOING AGAIN AND JOBS. 
          SO IS THERE ANY, OR MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR DIRECT CONVERSE NEO, UH, OR FOR JOHN, HOW KNOWS, I DON'T KNOW WHO, BUT IS THERE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT? ARE WE GOING TO SEE SOME KIND OF ANALYSIS THAT WILL HELP US UNDERSTAND? I MEAN I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE CONTINUING TO SAY THAT THERE'S JUST MORE THAN WE COULD EVER DO, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. 
          WELL, I COULDN'T YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP? DO YOU MIND STARTING TO TALK ABOUT GENERAL IDEAS ON HOW I ASSESS NEED AND I'LL GO INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, RIGHT? I MEAN I'M THE GUY EARLIER SAYING WE NEED GOOD DATA TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS AND PART OF THE ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PANDEMIC IS WHAT CALL IT 10 WEEKS OLD AT THIS POINT. 
          AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD DATA YET. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY BASED ON WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED. 
          THAT WAS WHY IT WAS EXCITING. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TO TALK TO WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. 
          THEY'RE BEGINNING TO DRILL IN AND REALLY PUT TOGETHER THE CAPACITY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHO IS ACCESSING THE UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE SYSTEM. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, VERONICA AND HER TEAM ARE COLLECTING INFORMATION ABOUT WHO IS, WHO ARE ACTUALLY ACCESSING INFORMATION THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMS, WHO ARE COMING TO THEM SAYING, HEY, WE NEED SOME ASSISTANCE. 
          SO WE'RE STILL BUILDING THAT CAPACITY. 
          I MEAN WE 
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CERTAINLY MADE SOME GUESSES BASED ON AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE THINK THE IMPACTS ARE LIKELY TO FALL THAT WE'VE KIND OF SKETCHED OUT, BUT AT THIS POINT THEIR FORECASTS AND THEIR PROTECTIONS, THE MORE INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE. 
          AND FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, WE ARE, THERE'S A MODEST SILVER LINING IN THIS OVERALL THUNDERSTORM. 
          IT'S THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN THIS LARGE LEVEL OF FEDERALIST SUPPORT, WHICH HAS GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, NOT COMPLETELY, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO PUT TOGETHER THIS INFORMATION CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND WHO IS COMING FORWARD AND ALSO WHO IS LIKELY TO BE COMING FORWARD. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA YET. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, WE'RE BEGINNING TO GET A FEELING ON IT. 
          UM, IT'S INTERESTING FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WHEN WE WERE, WHEN A DIRECTOR PERSON, YOU AND I WERE DOING SOME WORK LOOKING AT THE FOLKS WHO WERE COMING TO THEM IN FOR BUSINESS ASSISTANCE TO THEIR PROGRAM. 
          THEY TEND TO BE IN THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE THE FIRST ONES THAT ARE HIT THE LODGING INDUSTRY, THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AND ALL THAT. 
          AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO KNOW AS A POINT THAT THOSE TEND TO BE DISPROPORTIONATELY OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR BY WOMEN, BY, AND THEY TEND TO BE DISPROPORTIONATELY SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND THAT SQUARES WITH WHAT WE KNOW, THAT THOSE TEND TO BE THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN LESS SUCCESSFUL AT ACCESSING FEDERAL BUSINESS SUPPORT THAN OTHER BUSINESSES HAVE HALF. 
          SO WE'RE BEGINNING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND IT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BEFORE WE HAVE AS GOOD A DATA AS I THINK WE CAN REASONABLY GET. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS AS WE GET THAT DATA IN HAND, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL AND MAKE IT THAT MUCH EASIER FOR YOU TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, DATABASE DECISIONS GOING FORWARD. 
          AND THAT'S A MATTER OF WEEKS, NOT, YOU KNOW, QUARTERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY FOLKS HAVE BEEN SAYING, LET'S SORT OF IDENTIFY OUR PRIORITIES WITH THESE CATEGORIES, BUT BE FLEXIBLE ABOUT ACTUAL AMOUNTS BECAUSE THE REAL WORLD INFORMATION THEY CAUSE US TO MAKE, MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ALONG THE WAY. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT WHERE WE REALIZED THAT AS A NEED, WE'RE CONTINUING TO ROLL THAT INTO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          UM, WHERE ASSESSING WHAT OTHER OTHER ENTITIES HAVE DONE SURVEYS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GREATER AUSTIN CHAMBER, EACH OF OUR MINORITY CHAMBERS. 
          AND SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THAT DATA FROM MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND ENTITIES AND THEN WE AS A CITY IN ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND ALL THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ROLL OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO SET THOSE CONTRACTS UP SO THAT OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE COLLECTING THAT DATA AS WELL SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO REPORT. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THOSE STOP GAPS IN PLACE SO WE CAN COLLECT AS MUCH DATA AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU BASED ON DATA. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU CARSON. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE ALL NEED TO RECOGNIZE, UM, WE ALL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THERE IS INHERENT EQUITY ISSUES IN EVERY SYSTEM IN EVERY PROGRAM THAT WE CREATE. 
          AND SO, UM, I THINK THE POINT THAT COUNSELOR CASSARA WAS MAKING WITH, AND I THINK COUNSELOR HARPER MADISON AS WELL, WITH THE, SOME PEOPLE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          WE, WE CAN'T PRETEND THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE FOR, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, NOT JUST WHAT JOB YOU HAVE JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, THE DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT WE'RE SEEING IN THE LATINO COMMUNITY AND THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S BECAUSE OF ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION AND TRYING TO REACH THOSE GROUPS. 
          SO THERE IS INHERENT INEQUITIES. 
          AND WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I AM A HOUSEKEEPER, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, YES, I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FOR RISE FUNDING FOR, FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FOR DIRECT FOOD. 
          BUT I WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE CREATIVE FUNDING. 
          BUT THE, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REVERSE, IF I'M A CREATIVE, I HAVE ACCESS TO THE CREATIVE BUCKET, TO THE RISE BUCKET AND TO ADD TO A VARIETY TO EVERY SINGLE OTHER BUCKET. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE POINT THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE TRYING TO MAKE. 
          UM, AND COUNSELOR, I WAS ON MUTE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING. 
          WOULD YOU BE ON MUTE? BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING. 
          I KNOW, BUT YOU CAN HEAR THE BACKGROUND NOISE. 
          I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE I WASN'T, THAT'S OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          AND SO THE POINT BEING THAT EVEN IF, EVEN IF THERE ARE OTHER BUCKETS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE NONPROFITS, LET'S SAY WHEN, UM, WHICH DIDN'T GET A SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING, IF I WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THAT, WHATEVER, A $500 DEBIT CARD, THE ONLY REASON THAT THAT PERSON WAS PROBABLY A RECIPIENT IS BECAUSE OF THEY, THEY TRUSTED WHEN WE PICKED CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS 
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BECAUSE OF THEIR REACH INTO VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES OR THEIR ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH CERTAIN COMMUNITIES. 
          SO THAT PERSON, IF THEY DON'T, IF THERE'S NO SECOND ROUND FOR CERTAIN NONPROFITS, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT ANY, THAT MEANS THAT'S PROBABLY THEIR LAST, THAT'S IT. 
          WE GAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, ONE MONTH MAYBE OF HALF THEIR RENT. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE OTHER BUCKETS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S RENTAL AND THERE'S FOOD, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE ABILITY OR TO EVEN KNOW THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THOSE BUCKETS. 
          AND SO THE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE ARE SOME, I KNOW, I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF NEED AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO MEET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. 
          BUT BY NOT HAVING AN AVENUE FOR PEOPLE WHO COULD NOT QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL STIMULUS, WHO ONLY HAVE A CONNECTION TO HELP THROUGH A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION, THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW IS NOT GOING TO GET FUNDED AGAIN BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEW MONEY FOR THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE UNDER RISE. 
          THEY LIKELY WILL NOT GET ANY MORE HELP NO MATTER HOW MANY MORE BUCKETS OUT THERE THAT NOTHING GUARANTEES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET RENTAL THROUGH THE RENTAL BUCKET. 
          NOTHING GUARANTEES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET FOOD THROUGH THE FOOD. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY RISE PROVIDES A SPECIFIC KIND OF FUNDING FOR A SPECIFIC NEED. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT PERSON'S GOING TO GET ACCESS TO ANYTHING ELSE. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, THOSE PEOPLE, THOSE FAMILIES THERE, BUT THERE'S NO MORE, THERE'S NO MORE ASSISTANCE FOR THEM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THERE IS NO MORE ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE FAMILIES. 
          AND SO THAT IS WHY I HOPE WE CAN FIND ANOTHER WAY TO INVEST IN, IN, IN THAT BUCKET OF RICE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER RENTERIA? YES. 
          THEY'RE LIKE, DO YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE THERE. 
          WE'VE BEEN MIRROR PER TURN. 
          YOU KNOW, W ALWAYS SAW RISE MONEY AS SOMETHING THAT GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO GO OUT AND HELP, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU KNOW, ARE DROPPING THE LOOPHOLES, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, I ALWAYS FELT THAT THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE. 
          AND I THOUGHT WE ALSO, THAT WE WERE GOING TO REIMBURSE SOME OF THAT MONEY THAT WE DID, UH, GET FROM, UH, THE CLEAR ACT TO, INTO THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND, AND, UM, SO I REALLY WISH WE COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REIMBURSE THE RICE PROGRAM SO WE COULD USE THAT FOR A MORE FLEXIBLE REASON IN THE, IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO REALLY THANK THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAME OUT AND PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND THE PRESENTATION. 
          IT WAS, IT'S A GREAT JOB. 
          AND JOHN, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND, AND I KNOW THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE AS IT COME ON AS THE ECONOMY OPENS UP, UH, SLOWLY. 
          BUT, UH, IT IS, IT IS WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO DO AND, AND, UH, AND THEY WILL BE MORE JOBS OUT THERE, BUT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT, UH, THESE JOBS ARE GOING TO BE OPENING OUR PEOPLE. 
          A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXPOSED. 
          AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT AFRAID TO TAKE A TEST BECAUSE THEY NEED, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT BUT QUARANTINE FOR TWO WEEKS AND THEY DON'T HAVE SICK LEAVE. 
          AND IF, IF, IF WE ALLOW THEM TO KEEP HAVING TO GO BACK TO WORK SO THEY CAN EARN A PAYCHECK, THEN WE'LL NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS PROBLEM THERE. 
          WE'RE IN RAP NOW, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, I'M REALLY AFRAID OF THAT. 
          SO I KNOW THE WAY THEY'RE SET UP, IT'S REAL FLUID. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, A LOT OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE GOING TO BE APPLYING FOR IT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY RECEIVED BEFORE AND YOU KNOW, THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION THAT THEY MONEY THAT SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES RECEIVE AND PROBABLY NOT ALL OF THEM GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THAT, FOR THAT MONEY. 
          BUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WORKING WITH US, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH. 
          SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW THAT, I HOPE SO THAT WE CAN PUT SOME, UH, REIMBURSED OR BIAS MONEY SO THAT WE CAN USE IT IN THE FUTURE FOR, FOR THOSE KIND OF TYPE OF PROGRAMS. BUT I JUST SAID ABOUT MAYBE HELPING PEOPLE STAY HOME, YOU KNOW, AND NOT AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE AND DON'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, HAVING TO EARN A PAYCHECK. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. 
          [02:10:02]
THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK THE STAFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RENT PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO WHAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PAST PAYMENTS BEING EITHER FAIR MARKET VALUE OR ACTUAL RENT. 
          AND I WONDER ROSIE IF YOU COULD JUST OR DIRECT HER TRUE LOVE. 
          I WONDER IF YOU COULD JUST START BY EXPLAINING WHAT YOU MEANT. 
          WE SET UP THE RENT PROGRAM. 
          WE UM, WE ESTABLISH EITHER A FAIR MARKET RENT PAYMENT OF EITHER FAIR MARKET RENT OR THE ACTUAL RENT, WHICHEVER WAS LOWER, RECOGNIZING THAT NOT EVERYONE IS CHARGING WHAT WE WANT. 
          UM, IT, THEY MAY BE CHARGING MORE THAN US OR, OR POTENTIALLY LESS THAN THAT. 
          UM, BUT WANTING TO GET FOLKS COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCEPT OF FAIR MARKET RENT. 
          AND I'M WORKING ON THAT AS KIND OF THE, THE BASELINE FOR WHAT WE WOULD BE PAYING THROUGH THE RENT PROGRAM INITIALLY. 
          AND SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEBODY WAS PAYING MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO BE FAIR MARKET RENT, THEY MIGHT, THEY WOULD GET ONLY THE FAIR MARKET, HALF OF THE FAIR MARKET. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T FOLLOW THAT IN THE EARLIER CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, W THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ABOUT WHETHER INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STAYING IN HOTEL, HOTEL, LUNGS DAY, UM, HOTEL OR MOTELS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. 
          ARE YOU ADJUSTING THE, UM, ELIGIBILITY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROGRAM SO THAT INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE KINDS OF HOUSING SETTINGS CAN BE, CAN APPLY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AS WELL. 
          UM, IN THE INITIAL ITERATION OF THE PROGRAM, WE WERE REQUIRING THAT FOLKS HAD A STANDARD LEASE. 
          UH, AND AS WE GO INTO, UM, AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT ITERATION, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE, AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION ON THAT YET. 
          UM, BUT I'VE IS ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AS WE, AS WE GET MORE IN DEPTH INTO PROGRAM DESIGN. 
          I WOULD SAY I WOULD SEE THAT AS A, AS A PRIORITY. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE EVEN TALKED AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ABOUT WAYS TO DO THAT BY PROVIDING RECEIPTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THE OTHER GROUP THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT ARE THOSE LIVING IN MOBILE HOMES, UM, WHO ARE ON KIND OF RENT TO OWN SITUATIONS AND WHETHER YOU'VE CONSIDERED HOW THEY MIGHT ALSO BE MADE ELIGIBLE FOR A RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          I WILL ADD THAT TO THE LIST AND WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE, WITH THE TEAM. 
          THAT'S SUPER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          NOW TO SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT BACK TO THE LINE ITEM FOR SHELTERS AND QUARANTINE FACILITIES. 
          UM, AND THIS REALLY GETS TO THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN ASKED EARLIER AND I HEARD THE ANSWER BUT DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND IT. 
          DIRECTOR, HAYDEN, I, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS FUNDING WITHIN THOSE WITHIN I THINK THAT CATEGORY OR MAYBE IT WAS ANOTHER CATEGORY TO ASSIST INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR PRO LODGES AND SECURING MORE PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          AND I WANTED TO ASK WHETHER WHAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME IN THE RESPONSE, WHETHER THAT WAS JUST KIND OF THE CASE CASE MANAGEMENT NECESSARY TO IDENTIFY THOSE OPTIONS OR WHETHER IT WAS, OR WHETHER IT WAS ALSO SOME FORM OF RAPID REHOUSING DOLLARS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP PAY FOR THAT HOUSING FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. 
          SO IS IT ACTUALLY THE HOUSING DOLLARS OR JUST THE SUPPORTIVE CASE MANAGEMENT DOLLARS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE FUNDING? WHAT IS THE HOUSING AND THE CASE MANAGEMENT DOLLARS? UM, THE ADDITIONAL CASE MANAGEMENT DOLLARS COME FROM THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS PLAN. 
          SO THE ESG, THAT'S SUPER GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND APOLOGIES, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. 
          I JUST DIDN'T HEAR THE RESPONSE CLEARLY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, AND THAT'S GOOD. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD NEWS. 
          I MAY BE LOSING MY MAYBE AT MY LAST, UM, QUESTION HERE. 
          I HAVE MORE, BUT IN TERMS OF COURTESY TO MY COLLEAGUES, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED AT OUR MONDAY ELECTRIC, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY MEETING. 
          I'M INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHERE WE STAND WITH REGARD TO UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE, LIKE HOW MUCH OF THAT HAS BEEN ACCESSED. 
          UM, AND IT'S PRIMARILY, MOST OF OUR PROGRAMS WERE AIMED AT RESIDENTIAL CONSUMERS, UM, RATE PAYERS, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHETHER THAT ANY OF THAT, UH, UTILITY BILL ASSISTANCE WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO COMMERCIAL TENANTS AND THEN DIRECTOR HIDDEN. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL MAKE MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT. 
          ONE THAT I THINK IS FOR YOU 
          [02:15:01]
ON PAGE ONE OF THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK. 
          HOW ABOUT A HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES? THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 
          THIS INCLUDES FACILITY APH FACILITY RENOVATION FUNDS TO MODIFY LOBBIES AND RECEPTION AREAS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COUNSELING SUPPORT AND SENATE SENATE SENSITIZATION. 
          UH, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF YOU KNOW IT NOW OR MAYBE AFTERWARD, HOW THAT 2.9 BREAKS DOWN AMONG THOSE CATEGORIES. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, HOW MUCH IS FOR LOBBIES AND RECEPTION AND RENOVATIONS, HOW MUCH IS FOR COUNSELING SUPPORT, HOW MUCH IS FOR SANITATION? UH, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THERE IS, YEAH. 
          YES. 
          SO THERE IS A MILLION DOLLARS FOR ADDITIONAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UM, AND UM, COUNSELING, SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. 
          UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT LINE. 
          OH, THE CABINET SAFETY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YES. 
          AND THEN, UM, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE RENOVATIONS. 
          AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE PUBLIC FACING FACILITIES THAT ARE RIGHT NOW OPERATING, UM, MORE MOBILE. 
          UM, AND WE'VE MODIFIED, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA NEED TO OPEN OUR DOORS BACK AGAIN TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE ARE ANY TYPE OF, UM, EITHER PARTITIONS OR MMM MMM. 
          DO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO OUR RECEPTION AREAS. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT IS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION AND OKAY. 
          TOTAL LINE IS 2.5 MILLION, RIGHT? TIP 0.9. 
          SO THAT GETS US PRETTY NICE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND, AND THAT GIVES ME A SENSE OF IT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND MAYBE IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT DETAIL, I CAN SEND IT TO YOU IN THE SANITATION. 
          IT'S ABOUT 50 K, SO I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU. 
          THAT'S SUPER BEAUTIFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE IT GOES TO EVERYONE THAT WAY EVERY MORNING. 
          EVEN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DIRECTOR. 
          HIDDEN QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL, I'LL END FOR THE MOMENT AND IF, IF THERE'S A THIRD ROUND, I, I HAVE SOME MORE FOR THAT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? ALISON? THANK YOU. 
          UM, FIRST I WANTED TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S COMMENTS ON UTILITY M IN AUSTIN WATER. 
          WE'VE HEARD THAT, UM, THERE WAS STILL SOME ROOM FOR FOLKS TO BE USING, UM, THE WATER ASSISTANCE, AT LEAST AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WEREN'T TRACKING TO WHERE YOU MIGHT'VE EXPECTED THAT TO HAVE BEEN USED. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO DISCOVERED THAT FOR THE WATER ASSISTANCE THAT WASN'T HELPING A LOT OF THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, PROPERTIES, UM, AND THAT WE HAD ASKED THEM TO LOOK INTO THAT MORE. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR, FOR THE AUSTIN ENERGY, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, UM, LOOK INTO. 
          UM, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT PROMPTED ME WHEN WE, WE VOTED ON THE, THE RISE FUNDING CONTRACTS, UM, LAST WEEK. 
          THAT TO SAY THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE UTILITY ASSISTANCE INFORMATION OUT TO PEOPLE. 
          UM, BUT, BUT FOR WATER THERE WAS DEFINITELY, UM, SOME PIECE THERE, UM, THAT COULD BE UTILIZED MORE. 
          UM, AND WE HAD ASKED AUSTIN WATER STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT. 
          THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT THEY HAD BEFORE COVA THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO CRACK, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL WATER EATERS. 
          UM, SO I WANTED TO ALSO NOTE THAT IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA, HIS COMMENT BEFORE, UM, THAT I THINK THAT THAT NEED OF, OF RENT AND BEING ABLE TO STAY HOME, UM, IT'S BUILT INTO THE PUBLIC HEALTH PIECE OF THE FINANCIAL AND OTHER DIRECT SUPPORT, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S UM, OVER 5 MILLION, MAYBE IT'S 7 MILLION IN THERE FOR THAT KIND OF KIND OF SUPPORT. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO FLAG THAT, UM, BEING IN THERE, UM, IN, IN RESPONSE TO THE MANAGER'S QUESTION THOUGH, WHICH I THINK IS WHEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH THIS FRAMEWORK THAT WE ASKED FOR, WHICH I THINK WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO GET OUR THINKING TOGETHER AND TO SEE KIND OF WHERE, WHERE STAFF WERE AT. 
          UM, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT IF WE DID A FIST OF FIVE THAT PROBABLY THE FIRST TWO PIECES WOULD GET FIVE. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, ON THE ECONOMIC SUPPORT SECTION, IT, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, A DESIRE TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECT FINANCIAL OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE, UM, WE PROBABLY DON'T YET HAVE 
          [02:20:01]
AGREEMENT OUT OF WHERE, UM, THAT WOULD, WOULD COME FROM. 
          I'VE EXPRESSED THE DESIRE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE FUNDING, WHETHER IT'S FROM THIS FRAMEWORK OR AS WE BUILD OUT THE BUDGET. 
          UM, I THINK WE NEED TO PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION TO THAT, UM, RECOVERY. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME CLARITY MIGHT HELP IS ON THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE METHOD THAT WE USE FOR RISE OF USING THE DIFFERENT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UM, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THIS ADDITIONAL, UM, I DON'T KNOW, 18 MILLION OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT DOES, HOW THAT'S BEING DIVIDED. 
          OTHER THAN THAT IT WOULD BE A PAYMENT THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO THE LANDLORD SO THAT WE KNEW IT WAS RENT, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP IT GOING FROM THROUGH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE BETTER CONNECTIONS OUT INTO THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. 
          DOES THAT, I MEAN, DO WE KNOW ANY MORE ABOUT HOW THAT IS SET UP? HI COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UM, WHAT WE'RE ENVISIONING IS THAT WE WOULD PARTNER WITH A NUMBER OF NONPROFITS THROUGHOUT AUSTIN, UM, AND THAT WE WOULD USE THEM TO RECEIVE THE, YOU KNOW, TO BASICALLY PROVIDE THE INTAKE FOR THE APPLICATIONS FROM THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS THEMSELVES THAT MIGHT NEED ASSISTANCE AND, AND THOSE FOLKS CAN ALSO IN TURN THEN HELP WITH OUTREACH TO FOLKS THAT MIGHT BE IN NEED OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THEM IDENTIFIED YET, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOLKS THAT WOULD HAVE, EXCUSE ME, THE EXPERIENCE WITH INCOME QUALIFYING PEOPLE FOR SIMILAR TYPE PROGRAMS, BUT ONE MIGHT VENTURE THAT IT WOULD BE SOME OF THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UM, DID THE INITIAL ROUND OF, OF RICE FUNDING POTENTIALLY. 
          AND THOSE ARE CERTAINLY ON OUR, ON OUR MIND OF, OF POTENTIAL PARTNERS, BUT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THEM YET. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, I, I, I'M NOT SURE AT WHAT POINT WE NEED TO VOTE ON, ON THE FRAMEWORK PER SE. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THAT'S WHAT, WHAT WE'RE, WHERE I STAND ON A, YOU KNOW, A FIST TO FIVE TYPE TYPE SITUATION AND, AND UM, WANTED TO KIND OF LAY IT OUT THERE CAUSE I THINK WE DO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE AND GET SOME CLARITY. 
          UM, PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF VOTE NEXT WEEK, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE. 
          I THINK THIS WAS A USEFUL EXERCISE AND A USEFUL WAY OF, UM, NOPE. 
          COORDINATING OUR, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILOR COSAR. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          TO ANSWER THE MANAGER'S QUESTION, I, UH, I GENERALLY AGREE WITH HOW COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER OR SUMMARIZED WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, SO GIVEN THAT I, AND I THINK SEVERAL OTHERS FOLKS HAVE EXPRESSED WANTING TO MOVE THE BALANCE, SOME, I CAN'T THINK OF A OF ANOTHER WAY OTHER THAN JUST TO TAKE A VOTE ON THOSE LIMITED CATEGORIES. 
          I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY REALLY BROAD AGREEMENT ON A LOT OF PARTS OF THIS, BUT THAT THERE IS JUST SOME MODIFICATION AMONGST SOME OF THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY ITEMS WHERE THERE ARE, WHERE WE PROBABLY ALL AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE INCREASES TO EACH OF THOSE FUNDS. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, IN MY VIEW WE SHOULD INCREASE THE FUNDS THAT ARE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          UM, GIVEN ALL THAT I MIX WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW OF A WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT, UH, AND TO GET TO CONSENSUS OR MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT JUST TAKING, UH, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF DEBATE AND TAKING A QUICK, A QUICK VOTE ON SOME NUMBERS. 
          SO IF ANYBODY ELSE COMES UP WITH ANOTHER WAY, I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS ON ALMOST EVERYTHING WE COULD LEAVE THAT ALONE. 
          SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S JUST A LIMITED AMOUNT OF VOTES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN. 
          YES SIR. 
          WELL, I THINK THAT, YEAH, I HAVE TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT WOULD I REGARD AS KIND OF OUR NEXT STEPS FORWARD. 
          THE QUESTION THAT THE MANAGER ASKED AND IF WE ARE, IF WE'RE GOING TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THE ALLOCATION IN THE BIG BUCKETS IS, I REALLY CAN'T STAND THAT TERM BUCKETS AND THE BIG CATEGORIES IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE OUR VOTING THEN YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE VOTES ON THE INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS AT THIS POINT. 
          I THINK WE CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AMONG OTHER THINGS. 
          YEAH, IT'S ABOUT UH, HOW A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR INFORMATION WOULD BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF 
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THE AMOUNT OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE WE NEED AND HOW THOSE, HOW THOSE OTHER RELATED BASIC NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE ALLOCATED. 
          I'M STILL A LITTLE UNCLEAR ON SOME OF THE CATEGORIES WITHIN HERE. 
          I COULD NAME A FEW, LIKE ON PAGE TWO UNDER RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          THE GRANTS TO THE LANDLORDS. 
          IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHETHER THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL IN THAT CATEGORY. 
          UM, IF THEY MIGHT BE COMMERCIAL. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST THINK WE HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS TO HAVE AROUND SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES AND WHAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THEM THAT ARE BASIC NEEDS. 
          BUT IF WE'RE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE, I THINK WE MAY HAVE A CONSENSUS AROUND THE GENERAL TOP LEVEL CATEGORIES OF FUNDING. 
          SO YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT, THAT KIND OF BEGS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT, HOW, HOW, UM, HOW EXACT AND DETAILED WE WANT TO BE AT THIS POINT INCLINED TOWARD A MORE GENERAL APPROACH AT THE MOMENT, JUST BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH, I SEE, I SEE A NEED TO ADJUST THEM. 
          I MENTIONED FOOD ASSISTANCE SLASH ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE BEFORE BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THAT KIND OF WORK. 
          SO LET'S SEE. 
          I WANTED TO JUST UNDERSCORE A COUPLE POINTS. 
          I HEARD THAT I AGREE WITH ANNE AND WANTED TO SEE SOME MORE THOUGHT AROUND. 
          AGAIN, THE GENERAL CATEGORY SEEMS TO ME TO MAKE THIS SENSE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR RAISED AN IMPORTANT POINT AND A FEW OTHERS HAVE AMPLIFIED IT WITH THEIR AGREEMENT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS IN THIS FORUM AND PERHAPS IN THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY CABINET ABOUT WHAT, WHAT SOME ADDITIONAL LONGTERM INVESTMENT STRATEGIES MIGHT LOOK LIKE. 
          AND I KNOW THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE, ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS TOO. 
          UM, WE PASSED ONE OF THEM. 
          THAT CCC PROGRAM I THINK IS ONE OF THOSE LONGER TERM INVESTMENT STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ENLISTING INDIVIDUALS AND PROVIDING THEM IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE BUT ALSO HOPEFULLY, UM, SKILLS THAT COULD, THAT COULD LEAD TO FUTURE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND I WOULD SUPPORT SOME MORE CREATIVE THINKING AND I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED SOME MORE CREATIVE THINKING AROUND WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER LONGER TERM INVESTMENTS ARE. 
          UM, I HAD A LAST QUESTION. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT FOR NOW CAUSE THAT'S FORGOTTEN WHAT IT IS, BUT IT SURROUNDS WORKFORCE SO THAT IF IT COMES TO ME BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, I'LL COME BACK TO IT. 
          I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE STAFF DID. 
          I THINK THIS WAS EXTREMELY HELPFUL AND REALLY ADVANCES OUR THINKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE SCOPE OF, OF NEEDS AND THE SCOPE OF, UM, OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP MEET THOSE NEEDS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I LIKE THE GENERAL CATEGORIES AS WELL, MANAGER AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL TO SHOW THE BREADTH OF WHAT IT IS THAT HAS TO BE COVERED BY THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE. 
          I'M NOT REAL SURE WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS. 
          SO, SO AS TO NOT HAVE KIND OF ACADEMIC DISCUSSIONS OVER SOMETHING BEFORE IT'S TEED UP. 
          WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT ALL OUR SPENDING CHOICES REQUIRES MAKE DECISIONS BETWEEN THINGS. 
          UH, AND, AND YOU WEREN'T DOING THAT UP TO THIS POINT AS WE WERE TRYING TO IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS REAL SIGNIFICANT NEEDS THAT WERE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF US. 
          BUT EVEN JUST HAVING THIS LEVEL OF DOCUMENT MEANS THAT, THAT AS WE HAVE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SPENDING IS GOING TO NECESSARILY INVOLVE CHOICES AND SETTING PRIORITIES AND COMPARING STRENGTHS. 
          UH, SO, UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER CONTEXT TO HAVE ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MAYBE MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL THAT CONSIDER SOMETHING, UH, TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          AND AT THAT POINT IN THAT CONTEXT. 
          BUT AS A GENERAL RULE AT THE HIGH LEVEL, UM, IN TERMS OF THE THREE BUCKETS, I THINK I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND GENERALLY I THINK THIS ISN'T THE PLACE TO THE FRAME, THAT LATER CONVERSATION OR THOSE LATER CONVERSATIONS, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OR 20, SORRY. 
          SO, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE TAKING THIS UP IN A WEEK OR NOT MEAN CAUSE OTHERWISE YOU WON'T HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE AT A PUBLIC CONVERSATION TO DO THIS. 
          SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FROM HERE? SO ONE, ONE PROPOSAL, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST IN REAL TIME BRAINSTORM, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF AGREEMENTS ON THE LARGER BUCKETS. 
          UH, BUT THE POINT OF DISCUSSION, UH, WHICH IS I'M VERY HEALTHY AND WE THINK USEFUL FOR STAFF, 
          [02:30:01]
UH, DID, DID WE GET THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMIC RECOVERY BUCKET. 
          AND SO WE COULD DO POTENTIALLY A FIST TO FIVE, UH, JUST RIGHT NOW TO SEE HOW OFF OR IS THERE A NEED TO REVISIT THAT? UM, BUT IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE GENERALLY IN THE, IN THE RIGHT FRAMEWORK, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          BUT IF WE SEE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A RECALIBRATION, UH, THEN STAFF WILL TAKE THAT, UH, AND DO THAT RECALIBRATION AND COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK. 
          BUT THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE ONE OPTION TO PURSUE. 
          BUT THIS WAS COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHENS RESOLUTION. 
          SO LET'S SEE, HER HAND IS UP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE KITCHEN, WELL, ONE ROUTE IS WE COULD, WE COULD ASK YOU AS A CITY MANAGER TO, TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE COULD, UM, IF ASSUME THEN WE COULD VOTE ON THAT ON THEN THE VOTE WE COULD TAKE COULD BE ON THE BIG BUCKETS. 
          ASSUMING PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE MADE. 
          UM, IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT PUT SOME MORE DOLLARS INTO THE RISE FUND. 
          UM, AND I WOULD CONSIDER WHERE YOU MIGHT THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FROM YOU. 
          YOU COULD, UM, YOU COULD CONSIDER THE KIND OF SUGGESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS ACTUALLY A SUGGESTION FROM COUNCIL MY REPLANT AGAIN, BUT HE DID, DID HE DID A MENTION THAT THE TIME HORIZON, SO PERHAPS THERE'S SOME OF THESE DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE SPENT LATER OUT THAT WE COULD PUT TO THESE MORE DIRECT NEEDS RIGHT NOW AS I CONSIDER THE RISE FUND TO BE MORE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. 
          SO WE COULD PERHAPS DO THAT. 
          UM, I, I DON'T HAVE OTHER SUGGESTIONS AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A ROUTE IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO MAKE SOME, SOME ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT FOLKS COULD, UM, SEE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IN THE AREAS. 
          WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE, THE DESIRE FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS RELATED TO, UM, THE, THE WHAT I'LL CALL THE DIRECT DOLLARS. 
          I'M WONDERING ALSO IF, IF, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY OR IF IT WORKS AT ALL TO GET AT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT FOLKS ARE WANTING TO SEE IF IT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO, TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE, THE RENTAL, UH, BUCKET AND THE RISE BUCKET ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT A COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR WAS ASKING ABOUT. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS, IS, IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR THE STAFF TO DO A BIT MORE WORK? BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE AND, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT THE FIRST TWO BUCKETS LOOK FINE AND THAT THE TWEAKS ARE NOT TWEAKS, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT TERM. 
          THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN ARE IN MORE IN THE THIRD BUCKET. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM AND THAT COMES FROM CONCERN. 
          MMM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR KITCHEN IN THAT I THINK OVERALL WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT I, IF WE WERE TO DO A FIST TO FIVE ON, ON WHETHER WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE ALLOCATION OF INDIVIDUAL VERSUS BUSINESS, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE A ONE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF SHIFT IN ALLOCATION FOR IMMEDIATE AND INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. 
          UM, IN, IN THE FRAMEWORK. 
          I, YEAH, I AM, I'M FINE WITH STAFF COMING UP POTENTIALLY WITH OPTIONS OR IDEAS FOR US, BUT I DON'T WANT THE STAFF TO GO AROUND TRYING TO CHASE OUR GUESTS WHAT IT IS. 
          WE THINK WHEN WE HAVE AN EFFICIENT, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING CALCIFICATION AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE STAFF IN A, IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'RE HAVING TO REWATCH THIS TAPE AND GUESS WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US. 
          YOU COULD HAVE SOME INSIGHTS, SUGGESTIONS OR IDEAS BASED ON THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY SIMPLE METHOD OF ADDRESSING IT THROUGH JUST VOTING AND IT'S HARD AND IT'S PUBLIC, BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DRAG IT OUT. 
          I KNOW THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONCERN THAT WE TAKE UP TONS OF OUR DAY NEXT THURSDAY, BUT I THINK WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT IT'S JUST, UM, SOME SUMMARY VOTES. 
          SO JUST SAY, HEY, LET'S MOVE 3 MILLION FROM HERE TO THE YEAR PASS OR FAIL 4 MILLION FROM HERE TO HERE, A PASS OR FAIL. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT'S THAT COMPLICATED. 
          BUT IF THE STAFF HAS IDEAS, I'M INTERESTED IN IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW INTERESTED I AM IN A NEW STAFF PROPOSAL BECAUSE THEN WE MIGHT BE TORN BETWEEN EDITING. 
          BOTH OF THOSE IS THE QUESTION OF, IS A QUESTION PRESENTED? IS DO WE WANT TO HAVE MORE DIRECT, UM, UH, RELIEF, UH, PROVIDED? AND IF WE DO, FROM WHERE DOES IT COME? 
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IS THAT THE QUESTION? THAT'S THE REMAINING QUESTIONS. 
          RIGHT? AND HOW MUCH, UH, AND HOW MUCH A COUNCIL MEMBER, HYPER MADISON, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? YOU'RE JUST CONFIRMING? I DID, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL SAY MY QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MAYBE THAT'S A THING. 
          I MEAN, HAVING ISOLATED NOW DOWN TO THAT QUESTION, MAYBE THAT'S THE THING FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT A WEEK. 
          MMM. 
          AND, AND MAKE THIS PART OF THE COVEN QUESTION, THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE NEXT WEEK. 
          MMM. 
          BECAUSE IT'S RESPONSE TO THAT. 
          I MEAN IF THAT'S THE QUESTION, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE FOCUSING ON. 
          JIMMY WILL COME AROUND TO EVERYBODY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M STILL WHERE I WAS WHEN WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION TODAY. 
          UM, AND I THINK HAD SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION. 
          UM, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE, WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE WANT AND CAUSE JUST SAYING MORE IS NOT, IT'S JUST NOT SUFFICIENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          CAUSE IF WE DO SOME NAPKIN MATH, THERE'S 50 TO 60 MILLION FOR INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND THEN THERE'S 25 FOR BUSINESS AND ANOTHER SEVEN FOR NONPROFIT. 
          AND MAYBE THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE BIGGER. 
          AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I'M WILLING TO SHIFT THOSE NUMBERS AROUND. 
          BUT ARE WE SAYING THAT THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE NUMBER NEEDS TO BE 70 IN WHICH CASE WE HAVE TO GO OUT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE MATH AND FIND A REALLOCATION OF 12 MILLION. 
          AND I'M MAKING THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD HERE. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF NEED TO SET A TARGET, ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS WE NEED TO KNOW AND THEN STAFF CAN KIND OF MOVE THINGS AROUND TO TO MEET THAT NUMBER. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE THEM ANY, IT'S LIKE AN ALGEBRA PROBLEM WITH TOO MANY VARIABLES. 
          WE DON'T GIVE THEM ANY NUMBER THEY CAN'T SOLVE FOR X. 
          I, I'M FINE WITH THE WAY THEY LAID IT OUT. 
          I'M FINE WITH TAKING THE INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FROM 57 TO 65 OR I'M FINE WITH TAKING THE SMALL BUSINESS ASSISTANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, 24 TO 18 BUT WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT AT LEAST ONE VARIABLE SO STAFF CAN COME UP WITH A REALLOCATION. 
          YOU GUYS ARE A TURBO. 
          I GUESS. 
          MARY, YOU HAD SAID, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE US, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT QUESTION IS. 
          I'M MEANING TO ME IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS ADJUSTING, ADJUSTING THE BALANCE BETWEEN SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES AND SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS. 
          YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS LIST, I CERTAINLY SEE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. 
          I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY CLEARLY SUPPORT FOR BUSINESSES. 
          WE PROVIDE SOME OF THAT ALREADY THROUGH OUR CITY PROGRAMS, PERHAPS THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE COULD REALLOCATE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING GRANTS TO BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM PAY THEIR RENT, IF THAT ALLOWS THEM TO STAY OPEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S ALSO A SUPPORT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK THERE. 
          AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IN SUPPORTING THE BUSINESSES AND HELPING THEM STAY OPEN AND HELPING THEM MAKE THEIR PAYROLL, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BE EMPLOYED. 
          I HOPE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE, IF, IF THAT IS, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET TO A MORE GRANULAR LEVEL OF REALLOCATION THAT I WANT TO HAVE A MUCH MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REMOVING, REMOVING AND REALLOCATING FUNDING. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO AGAIN, TO ME, ONE THAT JUMPS OUT IS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UM, CHILDCARE SERVICE PROVIDER ASSISTANCE. 
          I'D HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. 
          I MEAN, THAT SUPPORT FOR BUSINESS IS ABSOLUTELY THAT. 
          IF PEOPLE CAN'T, IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE RELIABLE CHILDCARE, THEY CAN'T GO BACK TO WORK. 
          SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT AGAIN IMPACTS INDIVIDUAL, THAT IS INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE BEING PROVIDED THROUGH SOME OF OUR CORE BUSINESS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED. 
          SO ANYWAY, UM, THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          I DID HAVE ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION ABOUT THE RENT PROGRAM THAT I'D FORGOTTEN BEFORE AND THAT IS COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR. 
          I THINK YOU, YOU HIT ON A VERY IMPORTANT POINT, UM, AS, AS A DIRECTOR OF TRUE LOVE TALKED ABOUT THERE WERE SOME ADMINISTRATIVELY INTENSE ELEMENTS OF, OF THE PROGRAM IN ITS FIRST PHASE AND IT SEEMED TO ME THERE MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD MATCH BETWEEN THE POINT THAT MAY APPROACH I'M GARZA RAISED AND THEN THE SUGGESTION YOU MADE, UM, AND WHAT THE STAFF LEARNED THROUGH THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION OF IT, WHICH IS THAT IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE BETTER FOR ALL KINDS OF REASONS, ADMINISTRATIVE AS WELL AS REALLY GETTING DEEP INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH TRUSTED ORGANIZATIONS TO, TO ALLOCATE THAT RENTAL, ASSIST SOME OF THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONEY TO SOME OF THE SAME ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELPED, UM, WITH THE RISE FUNDING. 
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SO THANK YOU. 
          IF WE'RE, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL ON TUESDAY? IS THAT THE THOUGHT THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY. 
          I'M NOT SURE. 
          I MEAN I AM NOT SURE I SEE IT AS THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME TO TRY TO UH, HAVE VOTES ABOUT THE MORE GRANULAR ISSUES AT THAT POINT. 
          I'D PREFER HAVING ANOTHER WORK SESSION FOR US AND MAYBE HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO REFLECT ON IT BETWEEN NEXT WEEKEND AND THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. 
          BUT I THINK THAT IT DOES GIVE US SOME FOCUS AGAIN, UH, IF THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF US IS DO WE WANT TO GIVE MORE DIRECT ASSISTANCE, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT I'VE HEARD. 
          MMM. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING, I WASN'T SUGGESTING BY IDENTIFICATION ISSUE OF WHERE THAT WOULD COME FROM OR WHAT THAT WOULD BE OR HOW MUCH IT WAS JUST IF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT SEEING IN THIS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE IS MORE DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE THEN, OKAY, AND IF THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR THAT, WHERE WOULD IT COME FROM? AND HOW MUCH, WHICH THEN GIVES RISE TO ALL THE OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          BUT AT LEAST YOU TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          IT'S A CHOICE. 
          SO THE SUGGESTION HAS BEEN MADE THAT WE THINK ABOUT THAT QUESTION AND WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE LINE ITEMS, ASK STAFF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LIGHT ITEMS IF YOU HAVE THEM. 
          AND THAT IS PART OF THE KOBE CONVERSATION THAT THE WORK SESSION WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTIONS OR IF THERE'S AN IDEA THAT, THAT, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A CONSENSUS EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T VOTE ON THURSDAY, WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT. 
          HI PAIGE. 
          I'M ON BOARD WITH WHERE THIS CONVERSATION'S HEADING AND HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT MORE ON TUESDAY. 
          UM, MY, MY BIGGEST THING IS THAT WE DO NEED MORE DIRECT ASSISTANCE AND DEFINITELY RENT, UM, WHETHER IT'S FROM THE RANKED FUND OR TO THE RISE FUND, I THINK WHICHEVER IS KIND OF MORE FLEXIBLE WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ALSO NEED TO PAY FOR PRESCRIPTIONS BECAUSE OUR UNINSURANCE RATE IS HIGH. 
          PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS AND HEALTH INSURANCE GOES WITH THAT. 
          AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STRANDS ON FAMILY BUDGETS CAN BE ALLEVIATED IN THE MOST FLEXIBLE WAY, BUT DEFINITELY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO SEE MORE MONEY ALLOTTED TO RENT ASSISTANCE AND WHETHER IT GOES TO THE LANDLORD OR TO THE INDIVIDUALS, I DON'T KNOW THAT I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          I DO LIKE THE FLEXIBILITY OF SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER PARTS OF FAMILY BUDGETS THAT ARE BEING STRAINED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO GET THAT DONE, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF DIRECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSELOR POOL. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN VOTE TODAY ANYWAY, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T FOR DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I'LL JUST REITERATE. 
          I LIKE THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS LAID OUT TO THIS TODAY. 
          I'VE HEARD THE VARIOUS, UM, COMMENTARY FROM, FROM ALL OF YOU ALL AND WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT SOME MORE. 
          UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE GIVE, UM, RELIEF WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAND IT OUT, IF WE GIVE IT TO LANDLORDS, IT HELPS THE TENANTS AS LONG AS WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE. 
          AND I ALSO AGREE THAT IF DIRECT MONEY IS GOING TO FAMILIES, THEN IF THERE'S MORE ABILITY FOR THEM TO SPLIT AROUND TO THEIR OTHER NEEDS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE. 
          UM, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TO ASK IF WE ACTUALLY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, WHAT THE DOLLAR FIGURE IS FOR THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY WITH REGARD TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS PUT ANY PENCIL TO PAPER ON THAT AND MAYBE THAT NUMBER IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD SO BLOW OUR MINDS THAT IT WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, I CAN SELL DESPAIR. 
          UM, BUT, UH, IF SO JUST RHETORICALLY, BUT ANYBODY HAS GIVEN ANY THOUGHT TO THAT, I THINK IT WOULD HELP US KNOW WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, YEAH, I THINK IN JIMMY'S WORDS, WHAT ARE WE SOLVING FOR? ALISON ALSO SAYS, WHAT ARE WE SOLVING FOR? SO WHAT'S THE, UM, AND IT COULD BE THAT IT'S, UM, INDEFINITE AND UM, AND WE CAN'T AND INCALCULABLE. 
          SO, UH, BUT FOR THE EFFORT, UM, TO THE EXTENT, THE SECRETIVE PROCESS TO WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN TO TODAY, I THINK STAFF HAS REALLY DONE AN EXTREMELY GOOD JOB, VERY ADMIRABLE WORK. 
          I APPRECIATE THE WORK. 
          I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DOCUMENT AS IT IS TODAY. 
          RECOGNIZING THAT WE, UH, CAN ALWAYS MAKE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND ADJUSTMENTS AS TIME GOES BY, WHICH MAY BE FRANKLY THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION AT THIS POINT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW THREE MONTHS FROM NOW WHAT WE'LL BE FACED WITH. 
          THAT'S GREAT GIVEN, GIVEN THAT WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THIS QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY REASON TO NOT 
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POST IT FOR US TO JUST MAKE A DECISION ON THURSDAY. 
          MY I, I'M CONCERNED. 
          I MEAN EVEN FINE WITH PASSING IT WITH AN ASTERISK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN COME BACK AND CHANGE THINGS WHEN FUNDS AREN'T EXPENDED, BUT WHEN I DON'T WANT TO DO IS DELAY THE STEP, HAVE THE STAFF STUTTER STEP ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD START PROCESSING APPLICATIONS, START GETTING CERTAIN PROGRAMS MOVING AND WE HEAR EVERY DAY FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED SOME OF THIS HELP. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE RELUCTANCE WOULD BE TO JUST POST, JUST VOTING ON THE FRAMEWORK AND, AND, AND VOTING ON AN AMENDMENT OR TO, TO, TO THE LAND. 
          TO THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN HAS PUT BEFORE US, WHICH IS YEAH, THE ANSWER IS WE'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE EXACTLY THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT WE SHOULD JUST DO OUR BEST AND, AND PICK THE RECALIBRATION AND, AND, AND TAKE A VOTE. 
          IS THERE ANY, CAUSE IF, IF WE START TALKING ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY AND WE REALIZE WE NEED TO VOTE AND WE CAN'T POST FOR THURSDAY. 
          YEP. 
          I'M FINE WITH, WITH VOTING ON THURSDAY, UM, VOTING AT THE, THE, UH, ON THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK AND THEN IF THERE'S AN ADJUSTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, IF PEOPLE WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD, UM, I'M FINE WITH DOING THAT. 
          I THINK THAT THE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE, UM, THAT WE GET WHATEVER DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO DO TO STAFF SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WONDERING WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE PROCEEDING WITH THE PROGRAM. 
          SO I, I SHARE THE SENTIMENT THAT COUNSELOR SARDIS JUST RAISED. 
          SO IT HAS YOU REPHRASED IT MAYOR, THE QUESTION IS DIRECT ASSISTANCE, BUT I, ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, I MEAN, THERE ARE VARIOUS FORMS OF DIRECT ASSISTANCE THROUGHOUT THIS SPENDING FRAMEWORK. 
          THERE'S RENTAL ASSISTANCE, THERE WAS FOOD ASSISTANCE, THERE'S OTHER KINDS OF DIRECT ASSISTANCE. 
          IS THE QUESTION THAT'S BEFORE US REALLY ABOUT INCREASING THOSE EXISTING POOLS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND OTHER OTHER CATEGORIES OR ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT MORE, OKAY. 
          CASH ASSISTANCE. 
          I MEAN I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT ARTICULATING WHAT EXACTLY IS THE QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE, AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY COMMUNICATE CLEARLY TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THERE ARE MULTIPLE FORMS OF DIRECT ASSISTANCE. 
          THAT IS BEEN A PRIMARY PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW. 
          SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GENERAL, INCLUDING A CATEGORY OF GENERAL DIRECT ASSISTANCE THAT IS NOT SPECIFIC OR THAT IS CASH ASSISTANCE THAT COULD BE USED FOR THOSE OTHER THINGS, THEN THAT'S THE, LET'S NAME IT WHAT IT IS. 
          IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE OKAY THAT FOLKS ARE WANTING TO VOTE ON NEXT WEEK OR IS IT ABOUT OR SHOULD WE OR SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THOSE OTHER ADDITIONAL CATEGORIES. 
          YES, I COULD. 
          I WAS THINKING MORE ALONG, YOU KNOW, RISE. 
          I THINK WE'VE, I THINK RICE HAS NOW BEEN SPLIT UP INTO ALL THESE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          SO I WOULD SAY RISE ITSELF DOES NOT ANYMORE NEED ANYMORE. 
          I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WOULD LOVE MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT IF WE'RE TRYING TO, THERE'S ALREADY A WHOLE NOTHER, I KNOW YOU HATE IT BUCKET, BUT THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER RENTAL BUCKET. 
          AND SO IT WOULD BE JUST, YES, THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEBIT CARDS THAT WE WERE GIVING PEOPLE FOR AS COUNCILOR ELLIS POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, PRESCRIPTIONS OR NOW THEY'RE, THEY'VE LOST THEIR INSURANCE. 
          SO THEY, SO THEIR COPAY WENT FROM $10 A MONTH TO $400 A MONTH. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE, SO THAT'S WHAT IN MY THOUGHT, WHAT INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE WAS. 
          AND THEN IF I COULD JUST QUICKLY SPEAK TO THEM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I HATE THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE TO PICK ONE AND NOT THE OTHER, BUT I NOT PURELY UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, I GUESS RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR BUSINESSES. 
          I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SOME EFFECT, TO SOME RESPECT, UM, IT ALLOWS THEM TO STAY IN BUSINESS, WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO STILL HAVE JOBS BUT WITH CAPACITY ISSUES. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I AM A RESTAURANT AND I'M GOING TO GET, UM, RENTAL ASSISTANCE AS THE BUSINESS, I GET MY RENT COVERED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I, I'M STILL NOT CLEAR, AND MAYBE THIS IS TRUE, MAYBE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO STILL AS A, AS A PART OF THAT, YOU'RE STILL REQUIRED TO EMPLOY THE EXACT SAME 20 SERVERS THAT YOU HAD BEFORE. 
          MY ASSUMPTION IS I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE. 
          AND THEN I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN I USED TO WAIT TABLES AND I DON'T THINK IT'S CHANGED, YOU ONLY GOT TO TWO 13 AN HOUR. 
          AND SO, SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WORKING IN A RESTAURANT, SURE YOU'RE UNDER THE, UNDER YOUR, YOU'RE STILL GETTING YOUR TWO 
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13, BUT YOU'RE NOT GETTING ANYWHERE NEAR THE TIPS YOU WERE GETTING BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY LIMITS ON THAT ESTABLISHMENT. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THE BUSINESS MIGHT BE OKAY NOW BECAUSE WE'VE COVERED THE RENT AND TECHNICALLY THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING THE JOB AT TWO 13 OR WHATEVER, THAT, THAT, THAT PERSON IS NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING THE SAME AMOUNT HOME AND COVER THE SAME NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. 
          I COULD BE WRONG  BUT THAT'S WHAT I HAD HEARD FROM HEARING PEOPLE TALK, THAT IT WAS A DIRECT PAYMENT TO PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHERE IT WENT. 
          BUT I COULD BE WRONG. 
          THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I GATHERED FROM WHAT PEOPLE WERE SAYING THEN. 
          I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY QUICK CONVERSATION AND NOT, UM, AND I, MY GUESS IS THAT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR CREATING A CATEGORY LIKE THAT. 
          I WOULD ASK TO THAT, THAT WE, I MEAN I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL NEED TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IS REALLY UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT POOLS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT ARE WITHIN THIS AND, AND TO WHOM THEY'RE APPLICABLE. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT DEMONSTRABLE NEED JUST FROM THE RENT PROGRAM. 
          AND SO GETTING A HANDLE ON THAT IS, IS IMPORTANT I THINK BECAUSE THAT MAY BE ANOTHER AREA IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE VOTES ABOUT SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE AND WHERE IT IS THAT MIGHT, THAT SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER CATEGORY THAT NEEDS ADDITIONAL FUNDING. 
          AND  AND I AND A COUNSELOR OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT I THINK EVEN WHEN THE MEDICAL TEAM SAID THE SAME THING AND I'M AT THE SAME PLACE, I THINK ADDING MORE DIRECT FINANCIAL FLEXIBLE ASSISTANCE I THINK IS PRIORITY ONE. 
          BUT IF THERE WERE ENOUGH THAT SOME MORE ALSO WENT TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE, I FOR ME IT'S A GENERAL TENDENCY TOWARDS THOSE TWO CATEGORIES. 
          JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT, JUST GETTING SOME MORE. 
          AND SO I'D BE FINE WITH EITHER JUST ONE OR WITH BOTH OF THOSE I'M GETTING GROWTH WITHOUT, WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING AROUND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH PRIORITIES. 
          YES. 
          ALISON. 
          SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, WITHIN THE PROPOSAL FOR SOME OF THE SMALL BUSINESS, UM, THAT THERE WAS POTENTIALLY, UM, FUNDING FOR, UM, LANDLORDS. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT WAS GRANTS GRANTS TO LANDLORD, BUT SOME OF THOSE LANDLORDS ARE BUSINESSES AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A CREATIVE WAY TO REALLY, UM, BE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE SMALL LANDLORD AND MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UM, AND DO AND BE ABLE TO GET IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I AM NOT SURE THAT, UM, I HAVE THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, TODAY TO THINK ABOUT IT. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME OF OUR BEST WORK WHEN WE ARE SOMEONE BEHIND ME. 
          UM, SO SOME OF, UM, SOME OF OUR BEST WORK WHEN WE'VE HIT MULTIPLE GOALS. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HOBO DID WITH RESPECT TO THE ISE FOOD AND, AND, AND MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESSES. 
          AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF FOR SOME OF THAT THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE, UM, WITH A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT. 
          AND I BELIEVE MS TRUE LOVES THAT SHE WAS MAYBE MEETING WITH SOME OF THE LANDLORD, UM, REPRESENTATIVES, UM, TOMORROW, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO, TO DO BOTH THINGS WITH THE SAME MONEY, UM, SLIGHTLY MORE CREATIVELY AND WE, AND WE HAVE, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO GET MORE OF THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN THERE. 
          UM, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE BUSINESS NEEDS THE SAME TIME THEY WERE PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THE, UM, WAS ONGOING WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND WITH ABEL OR, UH, WITH RESPECT TO LANDLORDS. 
          I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT FLYING THE SAME TEST THAT WE HAD GIVEN TO PEOPLE WHO WERE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE MOST HURT BY THIS AND LEAST ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT INJURY, TO THINK ABOUT LANDLORDS THE SAME WAY. 
          WHO ARE THE LANDLORDS THAT ARE MOST HURT AND LEAST ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE INJURY? UH, PEOPLE THAT, UH, ARE NOW HURTING. 
          MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A RETIRED PERSON WHO HAS TO RENT HOMES AND HOW IS NOT GETTING ANY INCOME. 
          AND THE LIKE, AND THE QUESTION WE ASKED WAS, IS THERE A WAY MAYBE FOR THAT LANDLORD WHO MIGHT HAVE A TENANT WHO OTHERWISE QUALIFIES BUT IS NOT APPLYING FOR IT, FOR THE LANDLORD TO BE ABLE TO APPLY ON BEHALF OF THE TENANT AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          AND I, AND I, UM, WE HAD SUGGESTED TO BOTH, UH, 
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UH, THE, UH, LANDLORD GROUPS THAT THEY THINK ABOUT HOW YOU COULD CREATE THAT FILTER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HELPING THE PEOPLE AGAIN, MOST HURTING, MOST UNABLE TO SUSTAIN THE INJURY. 
          I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I MEAN I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHERE THOSE INTERSECTIONS ARE AND WHERE THAT HELP. 
          GOOD, GOOD. 
          CAUSE THAT'S RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT IT'S ALSO HELPING PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT NOW MAYBE NOT COVERED BY WHAT IT IS. 
          UM, I, I DO THINK THAT IT IS HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, GIVEN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, CAUSE IT, THERE SEEMED LIKE THERE, THERE ARE VERY FEW OF THESE CATEGORY BUCKETS WHERE WE COULD, UM, TAKE THE FUNDING FROM. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD TAKE IT FROM THE SMALL BUSINESSES SINCE YOU COULD TAKE IT FROM THE CREATIVE SECTOR ASSISTANCE AND OTHERWISE IT DOESN'T SEEM ALL THAT, THAT FLEXIBLE AND THOSE BUCKETS ARE ONLY SO, SO BIG. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE THERE, YOU KNOW, BASIS OF THINGS THAT WE ALREADY PASSED THIS COUNCIL. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE WE TALKING ON THE ATTIC AT THE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF 5 MILLION? ARE WE TALKING 20 MILLION? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ADDRESS? BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO GIVE MORE, UM, DIRECT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE TRADE OFFS FROM WHERE THAT COMES THAT WE HAVE TO DO ACCOUNT FOR THAT EFFECT OUR TRAJECTORY OVER THE RECOVERY DEPENDING ON WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING COMING FROM. 
          I THINK THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, YOU'RE MUTED. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          CAN YOU, YOU CAN'T UNMUTE. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IS HOW MUCH ARE WE THINKING OF AND WHERE CAN WE TAKE IT FROM. 
          I UM, I COULD SEE SOME COMING FROM THE CREATIVE BUCKET. 
          THAT'S HARD FOR ME TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A CHAMPION FOR THE BETAS FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'RE UNDERFUNDED. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AS, AS ONE PLACE. 
          I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THAT OUT. 
          UM, BUT PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE ONE PLACE. 
          THE SMALL BUSINESSES MIGHT BE ONE PLACE. 
          UM, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER PLACES TOO. 
          I AGREE WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CIOBO THAT THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IS SOMETHING, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS, IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE, BUT IT DOESN'T START AN IMMEDIATE NEED. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER PLACE THAT WOULD WORK FOR ME. 
          UM, SO, UH, BUT THESE ARE ALL ORDER OF MAGNITUDE THINGS, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S NOT A HUGE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT CAN BE TAKEN FROM ANY OF THOSE BUCKETS. 
          I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO TOO, I KNOW YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY DONE THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH THERE WERE SOME LOCAL, SOME EXISTING BUDGET DOLLARS THAT WERE REPURPOSED. 
          SO I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY SCRUBBED FOR THAT, BUT IF THERE WERE ANY MODALITIES, WAS IT OR WAS THERE AN ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO USE OF THE CARES FUNDING OR DIRECT ASSISTANCE PAYMENT PAYMENTS? IS THAT ALLOWED THREE WAS CLOSEST TO THAT CAREER? YOU SAW THE PHONE, IF IT'S COVERT RELATED, YOU'RE MUTED IF YOU ARE, I'M SORRY, WAS THERE A QUESTION FOR ME? SORRY. 
          YEAH, I WAS WONDERING IS THERE ANY, IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO USING CARE'S FUNDING FOR DIRECT PAYMENT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE HURT BY, BY COBIT? THE DIRECT PAYMENT HAS TO, AS WE'VE SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN, BE RELATED TO COBIT. 
          SO WE NEED THEM TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ARE, THEY LOST THEIR JOB. 
          THEY CAN'T GO TO THEIR JOB, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO STAY HOME. 
          SO WE ALL KNOW THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ALSO WE DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS NOT THAT WE CAN JUST GIVE OUT CASH WITHOUT TYING IT TO WHAT THAT AID IS. 
          SO YES, WE CAN PROVIDE A FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, UM, FOOD, YOU KNOW, MEDICINES, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE REASON ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          UM, NOT JUST HERE'S $250 FOR EVERYBODY. 
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ALSO CLARIFY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          I'M WORKING OFF THE GUIDANCE WE HAVE. 
          SORRY, THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S MAYOR, CAN I, YES, YES, GO AHEAD. 
          SO JUST NOT, NOT TO SAY YOU'RE WRONG, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR. 
          SO IT WAS OKAY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THIS IS MORE THEIR HYPOCRISY THAN ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID. 
          $1,200 CHECKS FOR WHATEVER THEY NEEDED, EVEN TO PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T EVEN NEED IT. 
          NOT HAVING TO PROVE WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR NOT, BUT WE CAN'T USE CARE'S FUNDING TO DO THAT EXACT SAME THING. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL BELIEVE THE INTERPRETATION IS. 
          I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S HOW THEY WILL HOLD IT AGAINST US. 
          YES. 
          THAT COVERED THE ANYTHING NEED, WELL THE 1200 SEEN AS A TAX REBATE. 
          OKAY, SO LET ME START THERE. 
          THEY'RE THERE TO SAY, WELL THAT WAS OFFERING, THAT WAS GETTING BACK, HONEY YOU ALREADY PUT IN THAT WAS GIVING BACK IN TAX REBATE. 
          WE CAN'T TAX REBATE THAT ABILITY. 
          SO THERE MIGHT NOT ARGUE WITH, WITH THE PHILOSOPHICAL, UM, SIMILARITY. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING WITH GUIDANCE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF WIGGLE ROOM. 
          I SHOULD SAY. 
          I HAVE A, THERE'S A BETTER TERM, UM, ABILITY AND WHAT THEY DECIDE GUIDANCE MEANS UP THE OTHER DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I THINK, AND I THINK PROBABLY I THINK OUR PUBLIC HEALTH WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE LIKE GIVE DIRECTION TO ITS PROVIDERS WHO KNOW SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WHERE PEOPLE WERE ASKED, IS THIS, IS THIS BECAUSE OF COBIT AND IS THIS FOR RENTAL FOOD, DIAPERS, UM, UTILITY? AND IF THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEN THEN, THEN IT'S ALLOWED. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK THE GUIDANCE I'VE SEEN HELP PROVIDE IS VERY HELPFUL IN ASKING, REMEMBER TREASURY IS GOING TO SAY THAT DAY WHERE WE, FOR THE NONPROFITS THAT WE, WE ASKED TO ADMINISTER THESE FUNDS, WHAT I SAW THAT, UM, AS THE GUIDELINES ABOUT THAT, THAT DOES PROVIDE THAT NEXUS AND THEN THAT RELATION TO WHAT THE NEED IS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT'S, UM, IT JUST BEFORE FIVE, I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD TEE THIS UP SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THURSDAY AND YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT ON TUESDAY. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, ABOUT WHETHER TO WHAT EXTENT WE WANT TO GET INTO THE DOCUMENT OR AT LEAST I WOULD, THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THAT AND AVAILABLE TO US ON THURSDAY. 
          IT'S ALSO A RELATIVELY SHORT AGENDA SO FAR. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE'LL SEE, UH, HERE TOMORROW. 
          UM, BUT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD AGENDA TO, TO DO THAT ON. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST MAYOR FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT YOU SEE IN THE SPREADSHEET, NOT JUST THE BIG BUCKET CATEGORIES. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I THINK WE WOULDN'T BE DECIDING THAT QUESTION NOW. 
          UH, IT SOUNDS AS IF, UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE KIND OF OKAY WITH THE BIG BUCKETS AND THE LIKE IT COULD BE THAT YOU ONLY CHANGE WOULD BE ONE OR TWO LINES RELATIVE TO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING, BUT IT GIVES PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THOSE LINES. 
          AS COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO WAS, AS KATHY WAS ASKING FOR, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THOSE ELEMENTS. 
          SO IT'S MORE JUST PRESERVING THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          MY SENSE IS IS THAT, UH, THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO BE TO DO A WHOLESALE REWRITING OF THIS. 
          I THINK PEOPLE WERE GENERALLY PLEASED WITH IT. 
          AND I THINK THAT QUESTION REALLY CENTERS AROUND IS THERE A TWEAK TO BE MADE WITH RESPECT TO DIRECT CASH PAYMENTS WITH WHATEVER LIMITATIONS ARE REQUIRED, UH, BY LAW, THE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO USE FUNDING AND, AND IS THERE MORE RENTAL ASSISTANCE? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH? AND FROM WHERE, I THINK REALLY THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS BEING TEED UP. 
          BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU TEE THAT UP WITHOUT LETTING THE WHOLE THING BE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL SO THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT I'M HEARING COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR, THAT WOULD REALLY JUST BE PUTTING THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK ON THERE FOR US TO VOTE ON IT. 
          THAT WOULD MEAN THIS WOULD NOT BE A RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THIS WOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER PLACING THE SPENDING FRAMEWORK ON THERE FOR US TO TAKE A VOTE AND MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THAT FRAMEWORK, WHICH SEEMS LIKE WE'VE LANDED ON MAKING THOSE CHANGES 
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JUST TO THE ECONOMIC SUPPORT SECTION. 
          I THINK. 
          SO A MANAGER, IF YOU COULD POST THAT AS AN ITEM FROM YOU AS OPPOSED TO HAMMERING IT FROM COUNCIL AND IT WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, TO CONFIRM THAT RECOGNIZING THAT TWO WEEKS LATER WE COULD CHANGE IT. 
          IF SUDDENLY THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT GIVES US, IT WORKED FOR EVERYBODY TO BE WORKING OFF OF. 
          SO WE MAY TRY TO FIND SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT TWO, AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES THAT WE'RE MOVING WITHIN THIS GENERAL SPENDING FRAMEWORK AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CALLING THIS A FRAMEWORK. 
          UH, BUT THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS REALLY AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO USE THESE FUNDS FOR. 
          I THINK SO. 
          SO IF YOU'D MAKE THAT PART OF THE AGENDA POSTING TOMORROW, MY COUNCIL MEMBER AT 3:00 AM YES MA'AM. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD BE FLEXIBLE AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND SEEING IF THERE'S SOMETHING I WANT ONE AREA THAT'S REALLY AFFECTED AND REALLY NEED ATTENTION THAT WE COULD ALLOCATE SOME RESOURCES TO THAT AREA BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND IN THE FUTURE. 
          IF THERE IS A PROBLEM OR THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, A BIG CLUSTER SOMEWHERE SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES. 
          UM, MANAGER, IF YOU WOULD PULL THIS, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND ALSO PULL IT FOR TUESDAY'S CONVERSATION AT THE WORK SESSION. 
          IF THE CLERK COULD DO THAT AS WELL. 
          UH, COUNSELOR ALTER ALISON. 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE FINANCIAL AND OTHER DIRECT SUPPORT BUCKET. 
          SO 15.5, SO 7.6 MILLION FROM RISE, BUT THAT BALANCE, UM, CAN WE UNDERSTAND, I KNOW THERE WAS IN THE PRIOR VERSION, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH ORIENTED ONE, BUT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM AND WHAT THAT ALLOWS US TO DO OR IF THAT'S STILL WHAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING, UM, THAT WOULD BE USED FOR BECAUSE IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT, THAT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS. 
          THOUGHTS FOR, UM, WHERE THAT, WHERE THAT CAME FROM BECAUSE IT SEEMS RELATIVELY HIGH RELATIVE TO OTHER ASSISTANCE THAT WE PROVIDED INDIVIDUALLY. 
          SO I JUST LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE AND, AND WHAT WE'RE WE'RE ANTICIPATING. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF STEPHANIE IS STILL ON THE LINE. 
          IF SHE IS, I WOULD LET HER SPEAK TO THIS OTHERWISE I CAN SPEAK MORE GENERALLY TO IT. 
          WHY IS THAT QUICK? I MIGHT BE, BECAUSE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE QUESTION OF WHY 6.7 0.6 WAS ALLOCATED. 
          IT HAS A BALANCE. 
          THE BUCKET HAS A BALANCE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 7.6 MILLION THAT WAS ALREADY IN RISE IN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION. 
          THAT WAS GOING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO TESTED POSITIVE AND QUARANTINE. 
          AND IT KIND OF SAYS THAT, BUT THE BUCKET REALLY SAYS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS TOO. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY THOUGHT THE NEED WAS FOR THAT PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEALTH FOCUSED ELEMENT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT WAS ANTICIPATED, UM, HELP BECAUSE THERE MAY ALREADY BE SOME MONEY IN THAT BUCKET. 
          I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          OKAY, WELL WE CAN PROVIDE THE MORE DETAILED QUESTION IN WRITING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD IT WOULD SERVE. 
          BUT THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN POINT $9 MILLION WITHIN THE PREVIOUS ITERATION WITH REFERRED TO AS THE PUBLIC HEALTH FUND. 
          AND THE IDEA FOR THAT FUND WAS TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO INDIVIDUALS WHO PERHAPS SAID, UM, SO AND SYMPTOMS AND TESTED FOR THE DISEASE AND HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GOING INTO WORK TO EARN THEIR INCOME OR BEING ABLE TO STAY AT HOME. 
          SO THE PUBLIC HEALTH THAT WOULD BE TARGETED MORE PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME WHEN THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHOICE BETWEEN HAVING AN INCOME, UM, OR HAVING TO GO TO WORK WHILE YOU'RE AWAITING YOUR TEST RESULTS AND PERHAPS INFECTING OTHER PEOPLE. 
          SO IT WAS ASSISTANCE TO INDIVIDUALS BUT JUST TARGETED IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT'S A NEED. 
          I WAS JUST IN THIS ITERATION, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THAT'S ALL PROGRAMMED OR NOT. 
          AND SO IT WAS, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT PIECE AND, AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WELCOME CLARITY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE STOP?  ALRIGHTY THEN EVERYBODY BE SAFE. 
          IT IS A FOUR 58 AND THIS MEETING IS WORK SESSION IS, IS ADJOURN, BE SAFE. 
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