* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] UM, AND, [Call to Order] OR PATRICK, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE ROLL CALL AND END THE CHAIR, YOU HAVE TO CALL IT BEFORE WE START. IF I MAKE, AND WE HAVE ALL USERS MUTE THEIR DEVICE AND UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO SPEAK AND JUST ALLOW THE CHAIR TO RUN THE MEETING. THANK YOU. THANKS. UH, YES. COULD YOU PLEASE? YES, SIR. MY COMMISSION TERMS, CAROL PRESENT. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING, PATRICK. I THINK YOU'RE MUTED. ERIN, CAN YOU TAKE OVER FOR ROLL PLEASE? HE'S MUTED TOO. HELLO, PATRICK, ARE YOU ON HELLO? YES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. HELLO? CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY. I'LL FINISH, BRO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT AUTOMATICALLY OR NOT TAKE OVER FOR ROLE. WE HAVE A CHAIR CAROL PRESENT. UM, VICE CHAIR, UH, GONZALEZ COMMISSIONER FRANCO IS COMMISSIONER FRANCO ON COMMISSIONER MINORS, COMMISSIONER ROBLEDO. OKAY. I MENTIONED HER OF GUCCI PRESIDENT MISSIONER. OKAY. UM, THE NEW COMMISSIONER, UH, SHE WASN'T ABLE TO JOIN, UH, COMMIT TO THE ROLLER COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, COMMISSIONER WILEY, PRESIDENT AND COMMISSIONER. LUKINS. OKAY. I'M GOING TO PASS IT BACK TO THE CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, [Item 1A (Part 1 of 2)] ITEM NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 24TH, 2020, AND MAY, 1820 20 MEETING MINUTES. UM, AARON, I HAD JUST SENT YOU AN EMAIL. THE MEETING MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY WERE NOT IMPLEMENTED IN THE BACKGROUND. IS THERE A WAY TO BRING THOSE UP NOW SO WE CAN REVIEW THEM? YEAH. THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE BACKUP. LET ME BRING THOSE UP ONE SECOND. YOU READ ABOUT IT. [00:05:09] ALL RIGHT. I HAVE THOSE MEETINGS PULLED UP A CHAIR. DID YOU WANT ME TO EMAIL THOSE TO YOU? UM, YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU COULD SEND THEM TO EVERYBODY. OKAY, I'LL DO THAT REAL QUICK. PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN. YEAH, BECAUSE AS I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY'S WEBSITE, NOW IT'S JUST SHOWING ME MAIDS IN THERE. AARON, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHOW THOSE ON THE SCREEN? THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE FASTER. I'M TRYING TO FIND A SHARE BUTTON. BEAR WITH ME ONE SECOND. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE FROM THE CITY IS OWNED. I'M TRYING TO FIND THE LOCATION OF WHERE TO SHARE THE SCREEN. I'M NOT ABLE TO LOCATE IT FOR SOME REASON. HI THERE, THIS IS THE AB TECH AT CITY HALL. SO WHEN YOU'RE SHARING A PRESENTATION, THERE'S A BOX WITH AN ARROW POINTING UP THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SHARE WHATEVER IS ON YOUR DESKTOP OR WHATEVER. DO YOU SEE THAT SYMBOL? AND TYPICALLY I AT LEAST ON OUR SIDE, UH, CONTROL, SHIFT, QUEUE ACCESSES. THOSE CONTROLS ARE WAITING. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MAY 18TH MINUTES? OKAY. TERRIFY MATE. YES. JORGE, PLEASE. YOU MAY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. JERRY, YOU CAN TABLE THIS ITEM ON THE MINUTES TOO. WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE THE SCREEN AND WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK BACK TO IT IF THERE'S TIME LATER. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. UM, SO WE'LL COME BACK TO ITEM ONE, A, UM, ITEM ONE, [Item 1B] B ELECTION OF OFFICERS. UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN BEING CHAIR, SO I WILL, UM, I GUESS, OFFER TO CONTINUE TO BE CHAIR FOR ANOTHER YEAR. UM, THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? IN ADDITION, UM, COMMISSIONER HANAUER LEDO HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN BEING VICE CHAIR. SO I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HER FOR VICE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR TO TERRIFY ME. YES. WOULD YOU PLEASE OPEN THE FLOOR OFFICIAL? WHAT WAS THAT? PLEASE OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS EFFICIENTLY THAT WE, ANY COMMISSIONER CAN OFFER NOMINATIONS FOR, RIGHT? SURE. YES. UM, YEAH. ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FROM ANYONE? I DON'T HEAR ANYONE. OH, NOMINATE DAVID CARROLL. THIRD CHAIR. DO YOU HAVE TO NOMINATE HIM? HE ALREADY IS OR NOMINATE THAT HE'S PLEASED THERE. [00:10:01] YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO VOTE, UH, FOR BOTH CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. I NOMINATE COMMISSIONER AND THEY ALL WROTE A LITTLE FOR VICE CHAIR. AND I'LL SAY ROBLEDO BETTER THAT NEXT TIME I PROMISE. WE'LL NEED A SECOND CHAIR PLEASE. YEAH, THERE WAS SOMEONE LIKE THE SECOND TIME. OKAY. ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THOSE? OKAY, THEN, UH, WE WILL VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SAY AYE. AYE. RAISE YOUR HAND. AYE. AYE. AYE. I CAN SEE, AND I CAN'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, BUT IT SOUNDS UNANIMOUS CHAIR. PLEASE CALL THE QUESTION ON ANY OPPOSED JUST TO HAVE THAT. YES. ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS JURY HEARING NONE. THAT'S YOU MA'AM UM, [Item 1C] THEN WE'LL GO TO ITEM ONE C DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING GREAT STREET STANDARDS, CONCERNING PAVER TYPE AND DESIGN. UM, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE BACKUP ON THIS THAT I SELL. UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, THIS WAS ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION? OKAY. CERTAINLY I'LL TAKE A LEAD ON THAT. UM, I THINK WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING AS A PRACTICE PROFESSIONAL THAT FACES US AS A COMMISSION IS THE PAST GREAT STREETS ADMINISTER APPROVAL AT THE CITY LEVEL HAD A, IT WAS PROBABLY AN UNWRITTEN POLICY OF SORTS WHEREBY IF THERE WERE EXISTING CIP PROJECTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS THAT WERE AGAIN, EXISTING AND NEW CONSTRUCTION WAS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE, THAT IT WAS TO MY EXPERIENCE AND OTHERS THAT I'VE TALKED TO, NOT NEGOTIABLE TO RE-INSTALL YOUR OWN EXPRESSION OF PAVERS IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY. UM, AGAIN, I HAVE NO OPINION ON THIS. I THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO DISCUSS MY CONCERN IS I THINK THERE ARE TWO CONCERNS. ONE IS A PER DISCUSSION OF COURSE, THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, TAXPAYERS EFFECTIVELY PAID FOR THE CIP PROJECT TO BE INSTALLED. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A INVESTMENT STANDPOINT, WHEN IT'S REMOVED, THAT ASSET IS GONE AND THE DEVELOPER THEN REINSTALLS A NEW ASSET THAT YOU COULD ARGUE THAT IT REINFORCES THEIR DESIGN EXPRESSION. IT'S NOT IN THEORY, A CONTINUOUS FABRIC IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT EXISTED PRIOR TO IT BEING REMOVED. THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN. MY SECOND CONCERN IS AESTHETIC FOR THE FUTURE. LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, SECOND STREET. CAUSE WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH CENTRAL STREET, WHICH WAS A CIP PROJECT ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THE ONE WE HAD ON THE, UH, BEFORE THE COMMISSION LAST MONTH. SO SECOND STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT TOOK PLACE, LET'S SAY A BUILDING WAS REMOVED FOR, I KNEW HUNDRED STORY BUILDING FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. WE WOULD THEN HAVE A THINK ABOUT IT, A HOLE IN THE SECOND STREET EXPRESSION. IF THAT DEVELOPER ASKED TO DO WHAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH AND PUT IN THEIR OWN EXPRESSION, A PAVER IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY. SO MY CONCERN AGAIN, AESTHETICALLY AND PLANNING IS DO WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY DOES NOT BELONG TO THE DEVELOPER? IT BELONGS TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CIP PROJECT WAS TO HAVE A SINGULAR EXPRESSION IN CERTAIN AREAS DOWN ON CHANNEL. IF IT DOES VARY STREET TO STREET OR AREA TO AREA. AND THEN THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THAT KIND OF FELL OFF. I THINK THE LAST PROJECT I RECALL WAS GRASPED THAT WAS INSTALLED AFTER THAT. MAYBE JORGE, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK INTO THAT, BUT I DON'T RECALL ANOTHER, BUT IT'S NOT INCONCEIVABLE THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MAY TAKE ON ANOTHER STREET, BUT IN SOME WAYS I DOUBT IT BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT IS SO ROBUST DOWNTOWN, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A NEED TO HAVE EACH DEVELOPERS FOR, TO DO THEIR OWN PROJECT. SO IS IT, IS IT IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT LOOK AT OUR STREETS MAYBE BY DISTRICT? WELL, WE HAVE A PALETTE OF MATERIALS THAT WORK TOGETHER AS A FAMILY SO THAT THERE IS A CONTINUOUS [00:15:01] EXPRESSION OF THE PUBLIC REALM IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT DEVELOPERS HOLD THAT LINE EITHER WE DO OR WE DON'T. BUT I THINK WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THESE PROJECTS, WE NEED TO HAVE A POSITION. I THINK A UNIFIED POSITION BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AS A COMMISSIONER IS, AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFESSION. I REGRET I REGRET VOTING FOR THE PROJECT LAST MONTH. THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I DID GO ALONG, BUT I WENT ALONG BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER RECEIVED A DIFFERENT MESSAGE THAN THE DEVELOPERS OF TWO YEARS AGO RECEIVED NEITHER 1:00 AM I SAYING IS RIGHT OR WRONG. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT. SO I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS IN A POSITION TO DISAGREE WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, ALTHOUGH THAT'S MY ROLE, RIGHT? SO IT'S, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AS A CONFESSION, BUT THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. I DID TALK TO JANA MACTAN WHO WAS THE ORIGINAL SCRIPT DOOR WRITER OF THE GREAT STREETS. SHE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THAT UNIFIED EXPRESSION OF THE WAY IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE OR CODE. I THINK IT'S AN ORDINANCE HAS MET RIDE JORGE. UM, HOWEVER SHE DID SAY SHE WOULD WANT TO BE HAPPY TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT INTENT IF WE WERE INTERESTED AND HER PUBLIC OPINION AS A, UM, AS A CITIZEN, NOT AS A PROFESSIONAL ON, UM, IDEAS FOR MOVING FORWARD, BUT SHE JUST OFFERED. AND I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST BRING THE FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE OFFERED, SO I'LL LET I'LL REST IT THAT MUCH. UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A DECISION WE NEED TO BE TO FULLY VET NOT ONLY AMONGST OURSELVES, BUT ALSO WITH OUR PLANNING STAFF SO THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT IN HOW WE REVIEW RIGHT AWAY FOR THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. AND TO BE CLEAR, OR ARE YOU JUST REFERRING TO, I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME WHEN JUST BE LIKE AN EXISTING PROJECT THAT HAS GREAT STUDENTS, BUT ALL ON NEW PROJECTS AS WELL. I MEAN, IF THE IDEA IS FOR THEM ALL TO KIND OF LIVE WITH THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT IS CORRECT CHAIR TO FURTHER ELABORATE. I DO THINK IT TOUCHES TWO POINTS, EXISTING CONDITIONS. I'LL GIVE A PHYSICAL EXAMPLE. I'M WORKING ON A PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FROM SEVENTH IN MANY WAYS. SO IT IS ON NEW AC GREAT STREETS WAS REQUIRED, BUT THE ONLY CONSISTENT PRESCRIPTIONS ON GREAT STREETS ARE THE TREES, THE BENCHES, THE TRASH RECEPTACLES, THE LIGHTING, THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHERS, BUT THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY ONES, BUT IT LEAVES OPEN THE FABRIC, WHICH I THINK IS A HUGE AESTHETIC. AND WHAT WE, WHAT I, WHAT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS DO FOR A LIVING AS A PROFESSION. UM, SO ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT I'M WORKING ON ACROSS FROM THE WASTE IS PUT STRAIGHT UP CONCRETE. AND I NOTICED THAT AND THOUGHT IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT'S, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS REMARKABLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN OTHER AREAS OF DOWNTOWN THAT I THINK ARE SUCCESSFUL IN UNIFYING THE PUBLIC REALM. SO THEREFORE THE DEVELOPER I'M WORKING WITH SAID, WELL, IF THEY DID CONCRETE, I'M DOING CONCRETE. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEND A DIME, WHICH IS REMARKABLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SAW LAST MONTH. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT FROM THE CIP PROJECTS. AND SECONDLY, DO WE INITIATE SOME SORT OF STANDARD FOR REVIEWING THE PUBLIC REALM AS IT RELATES TO THOSE CIP PROJECTS OR NOT? UM, YEAH, AND I, I LIKED THE IDEA OF BRINGING IN JANNA AND OR STAFF TO DISCUSS THE ORIGINAL INTENT FURTHER AS WELL TO, TO HELP US FORMULATE A POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION. I ALSO THINK IT IT'S SORT OF, UM, GOOD TIMING WITH THIS TOO, IF WE CAN DO IT IN AN EXPEDITED MANNER. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALREADY GIVEN THE CITY MANAGER DIRECTION ON LOOKING AT, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE TEARING OUT EXISTING, GREAT STREETS, UM, AND, AND SORT OF ALTERNATIVE COMPLIANCE WITH GREAT STREETS. UM, AND SO I THINK THIS COULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FOLDED INTO THOSE POSSIBLE CHANGES OF THE ORDINANCE. UM, SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS AS PARTIER? I AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEEN FED, UH, AND PRESENTED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY REALLY TWO CONDITIONS, ONE WHERE THERE'S A DEFINED DISTRICT, [00:20:01] YOU KNOW, AND THE PROJECT SHOULD FOLLOW THE DISTRICT GUIDELINES, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THAT HOLISTIC VISION. AND THEN WHEN THERE'S NOT A DISTRICT, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH. MAYBE WE DO NEED MORE THAN JUST SIMPLE CONCRETE. SO IS THERE SOME SORT OF MINIMUM STANDARD THE CITY HAS, UH, OR, OR THEIR SPECIFICATIONS THEY HAVE? AND THEN JUST AS AN IDEA, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S THINK ABOUT THIS, BUT IF A DEVELOPER IS THE FIRST ON A BLOCK TO DEVELOP A GREAT PORTION OF BRIGHT STREETS OR NOT A FULL BLOCK, UM, AND IT'S NOT A DEFINED DISTRICT, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE'LL BE A REVIEW OF THEIR DESIGN AND THEN MAYBE WHATEVER DESIGN COMES UP WITH THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS AND NOTIFICATION OF ADJACENT LANDOWNERS THAT BECOMES A STANDARD FOR THE WHOLE BLOCK. UM, I MEAN, IDEALLY DISTRICT THING AND MULTIPLE BLOCKS ARE CONSISTENT, BUT IF THERE'S NO DISTRICT, UM, I'D HATE TO SEE ONE BLOCK HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAVING PATTERNS ALL WITHIN ONE BLOCK. AND THAT'S ONE THING I THOUGHT ABOUT THE LAST PROJECT THAT WAS PRESENTED. IT WASN'T A FULL BLOCK. SO WHAT DID THEIR NEIGHBORS DO IN THE FUTURE? UM, IN A WAY I THINK WHATEVER'S PROPOSED, SO IT'D BE CONTINUED AT LEAST FOR THAT BLOCK. ALL RIGHT. LEE CHAIR, EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER. WALLY'S ACTUALLY CORRECT. THAT AGAIN WAS THE POLICY OF THE PRIOR REVIEW OR FOR THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM. THAT IS EXACTLY THE POLICY IS FOLLOWED. THAT IF YOU WERE FIRST ON A BLOCK, YOU GOT TO PRESENT WHAT YOU WANTED. AND OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK MUCH OF THAT CAME TO THE COMMISSION, BUT, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH UBER, THE JOINT THAT IS NOW DIFFERENT THAN I, AND I DO THINK IT'S EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE AS I SAID, WHEN I SPOKE TO ERIN, WHEN THIS DISCUSSION WAS FIRST INITIATED, AND ESPECIALLY IF WE GET EXPRESSIONS THAT ARE TO USE THEIR WORDS, UM, UH, BERLIN MARS, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT WANTS TO DO POLLOCK OR CASA OR MANET OR MOTIVE, HEY, YOU COULD HAVE MORE THAN JUST A, AN EXPRESSION THAT GETS TAKEN TO CHIMNEY AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE CHAOS THAT DISTRACTS FROM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT RIGHT STREETS THAT ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE AND CHARACTER. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT RISK OF A HOGGING? THE, THE MEETING I WANT TO BRING UP. ONE THING THAT CAME UP ALSO WITH ERIN, WHEN THE PROD THAT EFFECT ACROSS FROM REPUBLIC SQUARE CAME UP, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE. I POURED IT. AND I THINK WE ALL SUPPORTED THE DESIGN THAT WAS PRESENTED. AND, UH, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT? I BROUGHT THIS UP TO JANE AND PAM, EVEN WHEN GREAT STREETS WAS ORIGINALLY INITIATED THIS, THIS WAS OFF. I HAD IT AS A PRACTITIONER IS I ALSO THOUGHT THAT OBJECTS THAT HAVE STRONG CONNECTIONS TO DIFFERENT KINDS OF CIVIC SPACES IN THIS CASE, BEING A PART OF A SIGNIFICANT TASTE. I THINK HAVING A, UM, EXCUSE ME, I'M ON A FLIGHT. YOU DON'T HEAR ME. YOU HEAR ME NOW HAVING A CONDITION IS IN THE HALL OR THE PUBLIC PROJECT OR THE PUBLIC FRY BREAD LIBRARY, WHERE IT IS ALSO A SINGULAR AND EXPRESSION. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A BAD IDEA, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE BUILDINGS STRAIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LAW, I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SIMILARITY IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S GOOD POINT. UM, OKAY. SO I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE ONE OF THE NEXT STEPS IS THEN IF WE COULD GET, UM, MAYBE JANA MCCANN, WOULD IT BE SOMEONE GOOD TO, AS YOU SUGGESTED MR. COLEMAN TO, TO BRING HER IN, UM, TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND, UH, SORT OF WORK THROUGH SOME IDEAS TO RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW MAYBE TO ADJUST THOSE, UM, THAT'S APPROPRIATE? UH, YES. OKAY. PARDON CHERITA YOU CALLED ON ERIN FIRST? OH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK HIM TO COORDINATE THIS, BUT IF YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SUGGEST, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK, UH, FROM STEPS, ONE OF YOU, YOU FIND AGREEMENT ON ALL THE POINTS THAT ARE MADE TODAY. I WANT TO CLARIFY, MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE NO STANDARDS [00:25:01] CURRENTLY IN THE GREEN STREETS MASTER PLAN OR THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES FOR A PAVING, MATERIAL, DIMENSIONS, COLOR, ANY OF THOSE QUALIFIERS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT SURFACE, THERE IS A CLEAR DISTINCTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY. AND THERE'S A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN CIP PROJECTS AND INDIVIDUAL ONE-OFF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME THERE IS NO WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION OF HOW THIS WAS MANAGED IN THE PAST. I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION. WE CAN GO BACK TO TWO THAT CREATES A PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN POINT TO AND SAY, THIS IS THE WAY THE PROJECT WAS EVALUATED. AND THESE ARE THE DECISION POINTS THAT WERE MADE. THESE WERE THE STANDING OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT WERE FOLLOWED TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT A SPECIFIC TYPE OF DESIGN MATERIAL COLOR, ET CETERA. WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, PUBLIC SPACE. HOWEVER, OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WAS APPROVED WHEN CIP PROJECTS WERE EXECUTED, BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS APPROVED ON SITE CYCLING. WE, WE STAFF HAVE BEGAN THE WORK OF ANALYZING EXISTING RIGHT AWAY THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN, AND ARE STARTING TO FIND A CONSISTENCY IN THE WAY THAT THE PAVING MATERIAL HAS BEEN APPLIED THROUGH MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED GRAY STREETS. I DO WANT TO CAUTION THE COMMISSION WHEN IT COMES TO INTENT. STAFF HAS NO FLEXIBILITY IN TRYING TO INSPECT INTENT, BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ACTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE, EITHER A STANDARD THAT WOULD BE FOUND IN THE CODE OR OTHERWISE DIRECTION. GIVEN THROUGH DIVINE DOCUMENTS, LIKE A MASTER PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GRAY STREET MASTER PLAN. IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO INVITE SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT WOULD BE UNDER THE VOLITION OF THAT PERSON, INDIVIDUAL PERSONAL OPINION, AND NOT REPRESENTING THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW THE CITY STAFF INTERPRETS OR APPLIES THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF EITHER A STANDARD OR THE MASTER PLAN. SO THAT BEING SAID, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE PROFESSIONAL'S RECOMMENDATION AND ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED OR RECOMMENDED FROM THIS COMMISSION, WHICH YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO FORMULATE WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE CHANNELS FOR COUNCIL TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO INITIATE CHANGES TO GRAY STREETS. NOW, I DO WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH SAYING THAT ONCE YOU OPEN UP ONE STANDARD, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY OPENING UP ALL THE STANDARDS BY WHICH I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT YOU PIECEMEAL CHANGES TO GRAY STREETS BY SAYING, LET'S JUST TACKLE THE PAYMENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY WANT TO TACKLE A HEIGHT OF A CANTILEVER, WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE BRING UP QUITE FREQUENTLY. THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR THAT, UH, PLANTERS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IT TELLS US THE SORTS OF ISSUES, CONFLICTS WITH UTILITIES. I COULD GO ON AND ON WITH MULTIPLE EXAMPLES WHERE ONCE THE STANDARDS OR THE MASTER PLAN IS OPEN, I THINK ALL THESE ISSUES ARE GOING TO COME AT YOU AND AT THE STANDARDS BY WHICH A HOLISTIC REVIEW AND POSSIBLE UPDATE TO THE STANDARDS IS WARRANTED. THOSE STONES, THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2001. SO WE'RE COMING UP ON 20 YEARS OF THAT, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. NOW, IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING WITH WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THESE DESIGN TEAMS THAT ARE DOING PRIVATE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS, WHO IS MANAGING THE CIP PROJECTS, THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE ADVANCES THAT HAVE COME TO FRUITION IN TERMS OF THE TECHNOLOGY, THE DESIGN MATERIALS THAT COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONFLICTS AND IT CONSISTENCIES IN THE RIGHT AWAY. I THINK THOSE ARE SOME IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN HAVE INPUT ON TO BE ABLE TO GUIDE THAT PROCESS. BUT WE ARE THINKING OF A MORE HOLISTIC, ENTIRE RELOOK AT THE STANDARDS THAT WOULD INVOLVE NOT ONLY THIS COMMISSION, BUT MULTIPLE LEVELS OF STAFF FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OTHER DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, SUCH AS MS. MCCANN AND OTHERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS, ON THE GRAY STREET, IN THE CRAFTING OF THE GRAY STREET STANDARDS AT MASTER PLAN. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANKS FOR HEY. AND, UH, AND THAT IS A GOOD POINT AND THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MY, MY THOUGHT WAS, UH, BRINGING IN JANA WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AT A WAY TO HELP KIND OF KEEP THIS CONVERSATION GOING. AND IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND FROM MY PLANNER'S PERSPECTIVE AND, UM, AND IT MAY BE AS YOU HAVE [00:30:01] YOU ALLUDED TO THAT, IT STARTS OPENING THE DOOR THAT, HEY, THERE'S OTHER PARTS OF THIS, NOT JUST THE PAVERS THAT WE NEED TO REEVALUATE. UM, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE FISHER COLEMAN WAS GETTING AT IS THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO, TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE THAT THEY WOULD GO TO COUNCIL, UH, TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO, TO REVISE THIS. SO, UM, THERE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF INTERPRETATION IS GOOD AND BAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET DIFFERENT REVIEWERS OVER THE YEARS AND INTERPRET THINGS DIFFERENTLY. SO, I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO SPECIFIC, BUT I THINK IT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE FOCUSED THAN THE CURRENT LANGUAGES NOW. AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE. WELL, WE CERTAINLY AGREE CHAIR, IF I MAY, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS LACKING IN THE MASTER PLAN AND THE STANDARDS TODAY. IT, BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SUCH DIRECTION, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THESE WERE APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED IN THE PAST. THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION POINT TO THAT ONLY OPENS UP A CONSISTENCY. AND WHAT DESIGN TEAMS ARE ASKING US IS GIVE US THE STANDARD. WE WILL INSTALL ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO, ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT THEIR DIRECT QUOTE, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR SPECIFIC DIRECTION ON, BECAUSE THERE'S A LACK OF A STANDARD OR SPECIFICATIONS ON PAVERS. WHAT, WHAT IS IT? SO THE CURRENT TEAM IS LOOKING AT AND INSPECTING THE SURROUNDING CONTEXT, OR WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE AREA. THERE WAS A MENTION JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT DISTRICTS, BUT THERE IS NO DISTRICTS IN THE GRAY STREET STANDARDS. FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S ONE, ONE PATHWAY THAT COULD BE VIABLE. AND WE CERTAINLY WELCOME NOT ONLY THE COMMISSION, BUT DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TO PARTNER WITH US AND CREATE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR DIRECTION AS TO WHAT ARE DEFINE OBJECTIVES AND WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE FOR AN EVENTUAL UPDATE. WE CERTAINLY WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE THAT THE LACK OF SUCH INFORMATION IS WHAT'S CAUSING I THINK THIS CONFUSION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANKS COMMISSIONER COLEMAN. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT I DO? I THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY BREAK THIS DOWN INTO TWO CARDS AND ADDRESS ONE PART PRETTY QUICKLY AND GIVEN THE OUTCOME OF THAT PART, DEAL WITH IT. THE SECOND PART, AND THAT IS AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE, LET'S SAY THERE IS A PIECE OF PUBLIC ART IN THE EXISTING CIP PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE PAVERS, OR LET'S SAY IT'S A STRUCTURE, LET'S SAY THE CITY INSTALLED A SHADE STRUCTURE, HANA DEVELOPER, COME OUT AND REMOVE THAT. AND THEN OTHER WORDS FOR OUR EXISTING CIP PROJECTS, CAN WE SAY YES OR NO, THOSE HAVE TO STAY IN TACT BECAUSE THEY ARE CIP PROJECTS OR NOT. WE COULD START WITH THAT. AND THEN WE CAN LOOK, GO AHEAD. PARDON ME? COMMISSIONER? I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPTED IF I MAY CHAIR. YES. GO AHEAD PLEASE. OUR CURRENT CONSISTENT APPROACH TO THAT IS WHATEVER WAS THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED THE WAY IT WAS. THAT INCLUDES PLANTERS. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN AREA ON BRAZOS STREET. THERE'S AN ACTIVE PROJECT THAT, UH, YOU MAY HAVE LOOKED AT ALREADY OR COMING UP ON THAT HAS EXISTING ABOVE GRADE PLANTERS. THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER THE GROUND THAT HAD REQUIRED THOSE ABOVE GRADE PLANTERS TO BE INSTALLED BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT UTILITIES TO BE RELOCATED AS PART OF THAT CIP PROJECT. THE CITY IN THAT CASE CHOSE TO PUT IN THE ABOVE-GRADE PLANTERS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, SUCH AS A SHADE STRUCTURE AND ABOVE GRADE PLANTER, A PIECE OF ART WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE, SO THAT THE CONSISTENCY STAYS THE SAME FOR NOW. SO WE DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. I'M JUST REAL QUICK. I LIKE, MAY I CONTINUE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT? BECAUSE I AGREE EXACTLY WHAT JORGE HAS SAID. HOWEVER, WE WERE INCONSISTENT AS A COMMISSION IN THE BURLY MARK'S EXPRESSION COMPARED TO THE OTHER PROJECT WE SAW HELP ME IF I'M INCORRECT WAS THAT THIRD AND WHICH ONE WAS THE ONE WE SAW LAST WORKING GROUP THIRD IN WHICH COLORADO, COLORADO RENAULT BURDEN PROCESS. THANK YOU. THIRD AND BRAZOS HAS THE PLANTERS, IS THAT CORRECT? JORGE. AND THEY WERE REBUILDING THE PLANTERS AND WE ASKED FOR PLANT MATERIAL CLARIFICATION. HOWEVER, ON THE BERLIN MARK'S PROJECT, THERE IS EXISTING STREET, GREAT STREETS. AND WE SAID, DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. PUT BURLEY MOCKS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO IN MY OPINION, HERE'S WHAT I THINK HAPPENED. I'M SPECULATING. BUT I BELIEVE KNOWING WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT ON, UM, CERTAIN BRAZZES THAT THEY, THEY SUBMITTED FAMILIAR [00:35:01] WITH THE WAY THE PROJECTS HAD BEEN REVIEWED IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S MY OTHER CONCERN IS YOU DO HAVE CONSULTANTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE KEPT THE CIP PROJECTS IN PLACE AS WAS REVIEWED EARLIER. AND NOW WE HAVE BEEN BROKEN THAT EGG. AND LIKE MY BUSINESS PARTNER SAID, IT'S HARD TO PUT THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE WHEN WE ALLOW BIRLA MARKS TO COME IN ON COLORADO WHERE THE PAST PROJECTS ALONG COLORADO WERE DENIED, THAT I HAVE TWO PROJECTS OF MY OWN THAT WERE FIRMLY DENIED THAT CRIER STAFF COMPLETELY AGREE COMMISSIONER AND THAT'S THAT'S APPRECIATED. UH, HOWEVER, WHEN WE INSPECT THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE IN THE MASTERY STANDARDS, THERE IS NO LEEWAY ON THAT OR DIRECTION AS TO WHAT SPECIFIC DESIGN. SO I WOULD QUESTION THE WAY THAT WAS APPROACHED IN THE PAST AS TO WHAT BASIS WAS USED BY STAFF TO APPROVE OR DENY THAT IN THAT, WHAT IS, WHAT HAS BEEN INCONSISTENCY, THE INCONSISTENCY IS TROLLING THROUGH, AND IT'S NOT REALLY HELPING ANYONE. SO I DO APOLOGIZE THAT STAFF TOOK THAT APPROACH BECAUSE THERE WAS NO BASIS BY WHICH TO DO THAT IN MY OPINION. AND I DO AGREE AND I SUPPORT. AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO, AS STRONG AS I'M BEING IN MY EXPRESSIONS, I'M NOT TRYING TO DRIVE OPINION OF OTHERS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT. HOWEVER, THE LACK OF CLARITY WAS COMPENSATED FOR, BY A VERY STRONG AND CONSISTENT POLICY COMING FROM THE CITY THAT WAS NOT BACKED UP BY THE STANDARDS. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND I AGREE CHAIR, IF I MAY, JUST ONE LAST POINT. YES, I AGREE. BUT I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST THE WORD POLICY BECAUSE THERE IS NO WRITTEN POLICY ON THAT. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN APPROACH, BUT THERE'S NO SLPS THAT WERE IN PLACE, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES. THERE WAS NO PROCESS. THERE WAS NO WRITTEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE GUIDED CITY OR PRIVATE PROJECTS TO THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED. SO IT'S REALLY UNFAIR TO BOTH CITY PROJECTS AND PRIVATE PROJECTS, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT. AND THOSE APPLICANTS ARE SAYING, WELL, SHOW ME HOW YOU FOLLOW THAT PROCESS, WHICH I THINK IS A LEGIT QUESTION THAT IS LACKING. SO I THINK THERE'S MUCH WORK TO DO. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMISSION AND WITH OUTSIDE STAKEHOLDERS AND DESIGN EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO CRAFT ASSISTANT CRAPPING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WE'RE NOT BACK IN THIS SAME PLACE IN FUTURE PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON HOW WE APPLY THAT STANDARD. THANK YOU CHAIR. THANKS. SO AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOW IT'S BEEN HANDLED AGAIN, I KEEP USING THE TERM IN THE PAST, BUT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED CURRENTLY, IS WE, THE GREAT STREET'S STANDARDS REQUIRE A BIG TUBE MAPLE ON CERTAIN STREETS, BUT BECAUSE OF ISSUES, TECHNICAL ISSUES, STAFF DOES ALLOW SUBSTITUTIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR STREET TREE, BUT IT WAS ALSO NOT BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION. I DON'T PERSONALLY, PERSONALLY, PROFESSIONALLY THINK WE NEEDED TO BE. SO AGAIN, LACK OF CLARITY HAS BEEN, UM, HANDLED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BY STAFF. SO I'M, I GUESS I'M ASKING JORGE, ERIN AND NOLAN, IS THERE AGAIN, LACK OF CLARITY, BRINGS PROJECTS HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S LACK OF CLARITY. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO IN A STOP GAP KIND OF MEASURE? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I HAVE REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE FACT THAT THINGS MOVE SLOWLY IN THIS PROCESS AND WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER 40 50 PROJECTS DOING THEIR OWN THING, BABY, AND THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH MAY BE CONSIDERED OKAY BY THE COMMISSION AND OTHERS. BUT I DO FEEL LIKE THAT DECISION IS, UM, IS BEFORE US IN THE MEDIC. YES, THERE IS COMMISSIONER. IF I MAY REPLY CHAIR. YES, PLEASE GO. YES. THE URBAN DESIGN TEAM IS WORKING TO PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT, A WRITTEN DOCUMENT. PLEASE NOTE, I AM NOT USING THE TERM POLICY BECAUSE POLICY REQUIRES CITY MANAGEMENT APPROVAL, WHICH WE MAKE EVENTUALLY GET TO THAT BEGINS TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK BY SAYING, THIS IS THE PROCESS. THESE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS. THIS IS THE CONTEXT TO BEGIN THE GROUNDWORK TO ANALYZE THE WAY WE, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO APPROACH THE ANALYSIS OF CONTEXT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SURFACE MATERIAL IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY AROUND THESE PROJECTS. THAT'S THE STARTING POINT. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMISSION TO EXPLORE WHAT ARE THE GAPS IN THAT DOCUMENT. SO THAT THERE'S A CLAIRE EVENTUALL POLICY. NOW WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS THE FUTURE BY WHICH THERE'S COMMON AGREEMENT, ALL THAT AND COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, AS YOU WORK PROFESSIONALLY IN THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, ALL THESE DESIGN TEAMS ARE LOOKING FOR IS THAT CONSISTENCY AND PREDICTABILITY, TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO SOME PROCESS, TO SAY, WE UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO REACH THIS [00:40:01] POSITION AND IT'S FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO EVERY PROJECT. I THINK WHAT'S BEEN CONSISTENT IS THAT EVERY PROJECT HAS BEEN TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE PAST AND IN THE FUTURE. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE THREE SPECIES COMMISSIONER COLEMAN. AND I THINK THAT LACK OF DIRECTION IS WELL OVERDUE FOR US TO ADDRESS SO THAT THE INCONSISTENCY IS NOT PERPETUATED. AND WE OFFER DESIGN TEAMS. WE OFFER THE COMMISSION THE ABILITY TO POINT TO A CONSISTENT PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN SAY EVENTUALLY THIS WILL LEAD TO A CHANGE IN THE STANDARDS OR A SPECIFIC STANDARD WITH MEASUREMENT WITH, WITH, WITH ESSENTIALLY A PATTERN BOOK. IF YOU MAY THINK OF THAT CONCEPT ON BORROWING THAT CONCEPT BY WHICH IF YOU DO ANY OF THE FIVE, I'M JUST THROWING OUT A NUMBER FIVE TYPES OF SPECIFICATIONS THAT YOU FIND IN THIS PATTERN BOOK. THERE IS NO NEED TO COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL ON THESE PAVING TYPES, MATERIALS, DESIGNS, ET CETERA. I'M JUST MAKING STUFF UP. AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEARING WITH ME FOR A SECOND, BUT IF YOU'RE WANTING TO GO OUTSIDE, LET'S JUST CALL IT FIVE. AGAIN, THOSE FIVE PROTOTYPES ARE PATTERN BOOK MATERIALS. THEN THAT WOULD RECALL A CAREFUL EVALUATION BY BOTH STAFF AND THE COMMISSION. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GIVING YOU A PREVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMISSION THAT CAN HELP THE COUNCIL GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO INITIATE THESE CHANGES AND UPDATES TO THE MASTER PLAN AND THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES, THE WAY IT'S ORGANIZED. NOW, ADMITTEDLY, SO'S A LITTLE SLOPPY AND THEN WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN, WE STAFF HAVEN'T BEEN PROACTIVE IN COLLABORATING WITH THIS COMMISSION AND OTHERS IN UPDATING THE STANDARDS LATELY. THANK YOU, SIR. GO AHEAD. UM, I, I THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT'S EXCITING. I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS. I DON'T, I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE EXISTING CIP PROJECTS THOUGH. I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO REVISIT THAT AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS OPINION IF I MAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S VERY EXCITING. JORGE, DO YOU HAVE AN APPROXIMATE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT? BUT THEN I WANT TO GO BACK AS A GROUP TO DISCUSS THE EXISTING CIP PROJECTS AND HOW WE MANAGE THOSE. BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TACKLE IMMEDIATELY AT LEAST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT A UNIFIED POLICY ON EXISTENCE CRP. THANK YOU. FINALLY PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO, YES, PLEASE. I THINK WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE CAN BRING A DRAFT DOCUMENT BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO GAIN INPUT AS WELL FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, SUCH AS MS. MCCANN, AS YOU HAD MENTIONED, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT LACK OF GUIDANCE FROM THE STANDARDS. SO THAT THERE'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE WE WILL BRING IN OTHER DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, SUCH AS MR. CHRIS JACKSON, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO IS A PRACTITIONER AND OTHER PRACTITIONERS AS WELL TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THAT. SO THAT THERE'S A UNIFIED GUIDANCE. AND I THINK WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE CAN, WE CAN BE IN A POSITION WHERE THAT DRAFT DOCUMENT CAN BEGIN TO CIRCULATE AMONG THE COMMISSION AND HAVE A PROCESS FOR US TO GATHER INPUT AND BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT, UH, AS A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, ALONG WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW WE CAN BE GIVEN THAT THE WORK THAT UPDATE THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN THE STANDARDS AS WELL, WHICH COULD EVENTUALLY, OR POTENTIALLY INCLUDE OUTSIDE WORK FROM A CONSULTANT THAT THE COUNCIL MAY WISH TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS TO UPDATE THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES. THANK YOU. THANKS. SORRY FOR SURE. COLEMAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, IF I MAY, UM, ASK THE QUESTION OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE SEVERAL STREETSCAPES THAT ARE CIP PROJECTS. AND AS JORGE SAID, THE REQUIREMENT IS TO RE-INSTALL AURA AND OR PROTECT WHAT WAS THERE. AND I HEARD THAT THAT IS, I BELIEVE THE WAY THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS REVIEWING SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AM I CORRECT? JORGE? THAT IS CORRECT COMMISSIONER. OKAY. SO THEREFORE THE BERLIN MARK'S PROJECT IS REMOVING A CIP PROJECT, GREAT STREETS INSTALLATION. DID WE MAKE A MISTAKE AS A COMMISSION AND APPROVING GOOD QUESTION. TRYING TO FIND ME YES. FOREHEAD, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE COMMISSIONER HAS NO APPROVAL OR DENIAL ABILITY ON SITE PLANS. YOU WERE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. THANK YOU. [00:45:01] WELL, THE CHEESY ARE ACCURATE, BUT I THINK THE SPIRIT OF MY QUESTION REMAINS INTACT. DID ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS EVERYONE'S QUIET TODAY? HEY, UM, HELLO EVERYBODY. UM, REGARDING COMMISSIONER COLEMAN'S REMARK, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T GET ONLY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT IS CHALLENGING WITHOUT THESE GUIDELINES SET IN PLACE, MOVING FORWARD WHERE THESE BLOCKS JUST AT THAT DESIGN LANGUAGE CAN BE DIFFERENT WITHIN ONE BLOCK AND SO FORTH. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE CAN STAND ON IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO BACK US UP, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, MR. OLIVER ROBLEDO. I THINK WHAT I'M ASKING IS, UH, TO SEPARATE THE TWO ISSUES, REGARDLESS OF MOVING FORWARD IS OUR EXISTING POLICY, THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS PAID FOR BY THE TAXPAYERS FOR CITY OF AUSTIN, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THE NAME OF GREAT STREETS, THOSE BELONG TO THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY, OR DO THEY BELONG TO THE DEVELOPER TO REMOVE WHEN THEY HAVE AN EXPRESSION THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IS SEPARATE APART FROM HOW WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THOSE PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE GREAT STREETS ALREADY INSTALLED. THAT'S THE QUESTION? DID WE GET TO DIFFERENTIATE? NO. SORRY. WHO SAID NO CHAIR. OKAY. I, I DON'T KNOW. DID SOMEONE HAVE SOMEONE TO SIT SOMETHING TO SAY, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ONGOING DISCUSSION, BUT I MEAN, IN THEORY, WE CAN MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS WE SEE SET. UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY I FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO KEEP HAVING THIS DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF GET THROUGH THESE IDEAS, UM, WITH, WITH, UH, STAFF'S HELL, UM, AND OUTSIDE PEOPLE LIKE JANNIE, MCCANN TALKING BEFORE AND OTHERS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE. I, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AS OF YET, BUT I MEAN, I THINK EVERYTHING IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK UP ON WHO SAID NO. AND WHY? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THAT. NO, ONE'S GOING TO CONFESS, OKAY. FISHER COLEMAN, MAY I ASK CHAIR THE QUESTION A DIFFERENT WAY AND IT'S, IT'S SPECULATIVE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S A QUESTION FOR OUR, OUR STAFF, OUR, OUR CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF LET'S USE THE PROJECT, THE BURLY MARX EXPRESSION, THAT'S REMOVING GREAT STREETS WHEN THAT GOES. WE ONLY MADE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT NOW IT GOES FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW. WHAT IS THE POSITION OF STAFF ON THE REVIEW SPECULATIVELY? OR MAYBE WE CANNOT SPECULATE AT THIS TIME, GIVEN THAT WE HEARD THAT ON BRAZZES, THEY HAD TO PUT BACK THE PLANTERS AND THE PAVER THAT WE, WE RECOMMENDED SOMETHING DIFFERENT ON THE COLORADO SIDE FOR THE BERLIN MARK'S PROJECT. SO WHAT IS STAFF'S OPINION? IF THEY CAN GIVE US ONE OR SOME DIRECTION ON WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN WHEN THAT PROJECT COMES RECYCLING BASED UPON A, THE FACT THAT THE CIP IS BEING REMOVED, IF I MADE SURE YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE DO ANSWER COMMISSIONER COLEMAN'S QUESTION DIRECTLY. WE WILL CONSIDER THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AS IS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE. [00:50:01] WE WOULD ALSO INSPECT THE CROSS STREETS MASTER PLAN AND THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES FOR GUIDANCE. AND WE WILL CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING APPLIED. I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE EXPRESSION OF THE GREAT STREETS BEING REMOVED, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A REMOVAL OF CREST STREETS WHERE STREETS THAT'S BEING, UH, PUT IN PLACE. THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AND NO APPROVAL HAS BEEN GRANTED BY URBAN DESIGN TO THIS POINT YET. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE WILL CONSIDER HOLISTICALLY, THE DESIGN COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY CODE TO BE CONSIDERED AND AN INSPECTION OF BOTH THE MASTER PLAN AND THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES FOR GRAY STREETS FOR GUIDANCE. AM I INCORRECT? AND THERE ARE NO GREAT STREETS, CIP PROJECTS, UM, PROJECT INSTALLED ON THAT PROJECT. AM I INCORRECT? I'M NOT AWARE THAT THERE IS A COMMISSIONER COMMENT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WITH GREAT CONFIDENCE AT THIS MOMENT. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONSIDERATIONS WHEN WE EVALUATE THESE PROJECTS TO SEE WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BEFORE. THAT'S THE, THE ANALYSIS OF CONTEXT THAT DOES INCLUDE AN INSPECTION OF PREVIOUS APPROVALS OF NOT ONLY AIMING MATERIAL, IT GOES BEYOND PAPER MATERIAL. IT GOES TO THREE SPECIES AS WELL. THE WAY THAT SOME OF THE STREET FURNITURE IS ARRANGED ANY TYPE OF ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLACEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BASED ON UTILITY CONFLICTS, FOR EXAMPLE, ALL THAT GOES INTO THE CONSIDERATION FOR A STAFF ANALYSIS THROUGH THE SITE PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS. BUT AS OF LATE, THIS TEAM HAS DEVELOPED SLPS THAT GIVES US GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION ON THAT. AND THAT THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE NOWADAYS THAT BEFORE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT, NOW WE DO. AND THERE IS THE BEGINNINGS OF A PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW BASED ON WHAT THE STANDARDS CALL OUT FOR THE DISTANCES BETWEEN BIPOLAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DEMENTIA IS OF WHERE YOU PLACE BENCHES, CURVE, RADIO, ET CETERA, ALL THE THINGS THAT THE STANDARDS HERE TOO. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE STANDARD. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. AND SO WE COULD NOT SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT A 15 FOOT SIDEWALK AND CALL THAT A GREAT STREETS, COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS. SO THAT WOULD BE A DEVIATION FROM THAT. BUT, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT GOES INTO OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA IN TERMS OF HOW WE EVALUATE HOLISTICALLY AND THEN BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE DESIGN COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WHAT ANN WAS GETTING AT IS THE CITY HAS INSTALLED GREAT STREETS ALONG THIRD STREET, WHICH I ASSUME WAS A CIP PROJECT. NOT, NOT PRIVATE. WHERE ARE WE TALKING? FIFTH OR THIRD? I'M SORRY, I GOT MIXED UP THERE. I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING COLORADO THAT INTERSECTS THAT, THAT PROJECT, THE BERLIN MARK'S PROJECT, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK COMMISSIONER COMMENT. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A CIP PROJECT THERE. APOLOGIES IF I MAY CHAIR, THIS IS THERE. I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, I'M NOT TOO CERTAIN, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY SORT OF, UM, GREAT STREETS ALONG THE FIFTH STREET CORRIDOR. I COULD BE WRONG. I KNOW I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE, UH, THE OFFICE EARLIER THIS WEEK TO CONFIRM WHETHER THERE WAS, OR NOT WAITING FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO ME. BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO QUICK GLANCE AT HER GOOGLE MAPS, IT, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO APPEAR TO BE IN SORT OF GREAT GRIEF ELEMENT FOR AT THE ELEMENTS INSTALLED. IN CERTAIN PART, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS ON COLORADO. HOWEVER, UH, W WE CAN CHECK WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT COMMISSIONER AND GET BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. YES, THERE IS ON COLORADO. THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, QUITE FRANKLY, IT FULL DISCLOSURE TO THE COMMISSIONERS IS IT'S UGLY. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO PRESERVE IT. IT IS IN THE AESTHETICS OF MY PEERS AND OUR PEERS, AND EVEN, EVEN FORMER CITY EMPLOYEES, STAFF ALSO AGREE THAT THIS WAS NOT ONE OF THEIR FAVORITES, GREAT STREET IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH I THINK THERE IS A, UM, THERE'S A DESIRE FOR MOST DESIGNERS TO WANT TO ELIMINATE IT, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE POSITION THAT WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD ASK STAFF TO DO. THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WAS A COMMENT. MY QUESTION WOULD BE CHAIR, THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY STAFF TO INVESTIGATE CITY OF AUSTIN POLICY ON REMOVAL OF CIP, PROJECT ASSETS, AS PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT A DETERMINING FACTOR IN THE REVIEW OR NOT? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT, WE CAN NEGATE THAT IN OUR REVIEW IN THE FUTURE. [00:55:02] BUT I THINK I'M TRYING TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO OUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A SIMPLE, YES, NO ANSWER. IT MAY EVEN BE A LEGAL ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'S WORTH INVESTIGATING TERRIFY ME. THANK YOU. WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT COMMISSIONER COMMENT. IT MAY HAVE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS AS YOU'RE PUTTING IT OUT AND THANK YOU FOR DOING SO. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE STANDARD, WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I UNDERSTAND THAT HOWEVER, WE WILL LOOK INTO WHAT PRECEDENT AND I WANT TO USE THAT WORD VERY CAREFULLY, BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SET FOR CIP PROJECTS FOR PRIVATE PROJECTS. AND OUR TEAM IS TRYING TO FIND SOME CONSISTENCY OUT OF THAT TO BE PREDICTABLE FOR DESIGN TEAMS, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PROCESS BY WHICH THEY CAN SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPECTATION THAT YOU WILL OR WILL NOT CONSIDER CIP PROJECTS. FOR EXAMPLE, TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, OR YOU WILL USE SOME OTHER METHODS, LACK OF THAT METHOD. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMISSION AND OUTSIDE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TO AT LEAST BEGIN THE GROUNDWORK FOR THAT PREDICTABILITY AND GIVE YOU THE TOOLS AND ABILITY TO SET FORTH THE PREMISE FOR EVENTUAL CHANGES AND UPDATES TO BOTH THE MASTER PLAN AND THE STANDARDS. THAT'S THE SHORT TERM APPROACH, WHICH WILL TAKE SOME TIME. I'M NOT SURE HOW IMMEDIATE OR QUICKLY WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE IT WILL ALSO BE SUBJECT TO PUBLIC INPUT WHERE YOU MAY HAVE DESIGN TEAMS, NOT HAVING FORBID. THEY DISAGREE ON SOMETHING, BUT DISAGREE ON THE APPROACH. THEY MAY DISAGREE ON THE LOGISTICS, ET CETERA. AND THAT'S SOMETHING AGAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO INVITE THIS COMMISSION TO TAKE THE LEAD ALONG WITH STAFF, TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE THESE OPTIONS. SO WE'LL BE HAPPY TO INVESTIGATE THAT COMMISSIONER AND GET BACK TO YOU TO NOT ONLY YOU, BUT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL, CLARIFY OR ELIMINATE THAT AS A CONSIDERATION IS MY ASS OR MY REQUEST TO THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. BECAUSE IF YOU CAN REMOVE A CIP PROJECT AND PUT BACK YOUR OWN EXPRESSION, THEN WE ALL KNOW WHERE TO START THE REVIEW PROCESS, CORRECT? POSSIBLY IF I MADE SURE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER THAT TYPICALLY THE WAY THE CITY, WHEN I SAY, WELL, IT DEPENDS. OR MAYBE WHICH IS NOT A VERY ACCEPTABLE ANSWER. THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED CLARITY TO REACH IN TERMS OF, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE URBAN DESIGN TEAM. IT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION POINT BECAUSE THAT TO WHATEVER DEGREE WAS APPROVED IN THE PAST, BUT WITHOUT SOME LEVEL OF GUIDANCE, WHICH IS THE CONFLICT THAT WE'RE FACING NOW, THAT WHETHER THAT TO BORROW YOUR WORDS, COMMISSIONER, IF I MAY, MR. COLEMAN, IF IT WAS UGLY OR AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, THAT'S THE MORE APPROPRIATE WORD THAT THAT WAS APPROVED THEN BASED ON WHAT IF IT WAS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THEN WHO OR WHAT ENTITY OR WHAT GROUP, OR WAS IT PUBLIC WORKS? WAS IT URBAN DESIGN? WAS IT THE COMMISSION SAID, NO, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS STAFF ARE STRUGGLING WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE NO GUIDANCE AND WE HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY. I THINK I KEEP GOING BACK TO, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS BLACK AND WHITE AS POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF US, THE COMMISSION AND STAFF. AND I, AND I HATE TO JUST KEEP HONING IN ON THIS, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION IS, CAN A PROJECT REMOVE A PUBLIC ASSET? CAN A DEVELOPER REMOVE A PUBLIC ASSET? THAT'S THE QUESTION. UM, SO NOW YOU'RE LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE TO GO TO LEGAL, BUT I THINK EVEN IF WE GET A, MAYBE THAT'S AN ANSWER, SO THANK YOU. OR MAYBE NOT, BUT I THINK STARTING WITH THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? OKAY. UM, WELL, I, I THINK WE WANT TO LEAVE THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING. UM, IF IT'S MAYBE FEASIBLE FOR HAVE THE NEXT MEETING, OR IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL CALL MEETING, UM, TO FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION AND PERHAPS GET SOMEONE LIKE JIM MCCANN TO WEIGH IN, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. STAFF COULD ARRANGE THAT. UM, YEAH, SO WE DO WHAT I CAN. I MEAN, IT'S TOUGH KIND OF DOING THIS REMOTELY, [01:00:01] BUT, UM, I THINK AS BEST WE CAN, WE NEED TO KEEP PUSHING THINGS FORWARD A CHAIR. THIS IS THERE. QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. UM, WAS THERE SOME SORT OF TIMELINE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO HAVE GENTLEMEN COME IN SCREEN MAYBE PERHAPS WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS OR AS SOON AS WE COULD BE AVAILABLE? YEAH, I THINK AS SOON AS WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN, UH, LIKE COMMISSIONER COLEMAN SAID, I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING PROJECTS EVERY DAY AND THE LONGER THIS DRAGS OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES ARE MISSED. SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE A WHILE, BUT WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO SPEED IT ALONG, I THINK IS, IS THE BEST ROUTE. AND ONE LAST, JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. DO YOU THINK PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BEST FOR HER TO START WITH MAYBE SOME SORT OF WORKING GROUP BEFORE GOING THROUGH THE GENERAL BODY OR JUST COMING STRAIGHT TO THE COMMISSION? UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT DOES MAYBE MAKE SOME SENSE. UM, AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT GROUP THAT WOULD BE, WE, WE STILL HAVE SOME EXISTING WORKING GROUPS. UM, MAYBE JUST THE, OUR PLANNING AND URBAN DESIGN WORKING GROUP MIGHT BE THE BEST, BEST FIT FOR THAT. UM, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN A MEETING IF WE WANT TO JUST SCHEDULE, WOULD THAT WORK IN GROUP FIRST KIND OF HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND THEN BRING, UH, BRING SOME IDEAS TO THE LARGER COMMISSION COME OUT OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO EVERYBODY? SOMEONE ELSE SPEAKING? YES. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. OKAY. I, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ERIN. HOW DIFFERENT ARE OUR STAFF? HOW DIFFICULT WOULD IT BE TO GET AN INVENTORY OF THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WERE INSTALLED ALONG GREAT STREETS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT? I WOULD THINK THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF JUST A GRAPHIC EVEN, UM, I'M TEMPTED TO GET AN INTERN OUT THERE AND DO IT JUST SO IT INFORMS THE COMMISSION AND, UM, AND THE STAFF STAFF, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION, BUT IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THE ENERGY OR TIME TO DO SO IF IT'S THERE, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT. I THINK WE'D ALL LOVE TO SEE IT TERRIFY ME. YES, PLEASE. BEFORE YOU DO THAT COMMISSIONER COLEMAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT INVITATION. LET US COORDINATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND SOME OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS ON CIP PROJECTS TO SEE, I'M SURE THERE IS. I CAN, I CAN'T TELL YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SPREADSHEET SOMEWHERE THAT TELLS US THIS WAS A CIP PROJECT AND THIS IS WHEN IT WAS EXECUTED. UH, PROBABLY EVEN GIVE YOU THE COST AND ET CETERA. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE AND WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO PLEASE JUST KNOW NO INTERNS OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THIS ITEM. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM [Item 1D] ONE D LIAISON REPORTS. UM, WE HAVE ANY, OH, COMMISSIONER . DID YOU HAVE ANY, UH, DOWNTOWN CONDITION IS MET? I HAVEN'T MET WITH THEM YET, SO NOTHING TO REPORT. OKAY. AND I DON'T BELIEVE COMMISSIONER FRANCO IS WITH US. UM, I WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND THE LAST MEETING OF THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, UM, MUCH LIKE THIS. SO HAVING IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY ON A WORK DAY, MY SCHEDULE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING THE REVISION OF THE COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN FORWARD AND EXPECT TO HAVE A PUBLIC DRAFT BY THE END OF THE SUMMER. UM, AND THEY WILL BE SHARING THAT WITH ZINE COMMISSION AS WELL, FOR SOME FEEDBACK AS PART OF THEIR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS [01:05:01] PROCESS. SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. UM, OKAY. WE WILL, WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM [Item 1A (part 2 of 2)] ONE, A APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES. I'VE THE FEBRUARY MEETING MINUTES. UM, IF I CAN SHARE THEM CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT? UM, I'LL JUST KIND OF SLOWLY SCROLL THROUGH IT. THERE'S NOT A LOT, UM, THIS ONE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON. AND, UH, IF YOU SEE ANY, ANY ERRORS, UM, LET ME KNOW. THE, UH, THE MAY MEETING MINUTES WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE BACKUPS. SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THIS ITEM THAT WE'LL BE VOTING ON. UM, THIS WAS A WATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT, AND THEN, UM, UH, MEETING WINNINGS. WHAT WAS THAT? I HEARD SOMEONE . OKAY. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THESE MEETING MINUTES? EITHER ONE. OKAY. HEARING NOTHING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH MEETING MINUTES? I KNOW. IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN SECOND IT THEN NO DISCUSSION. UH, I'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED, PLEASE? THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. LET'S SEE. SO WE'LL MOVE ON. SO [Item 2] A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE THE BRIEFING FROM THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION ENTERPRISE PARKING DIVISION. WE, UH, UH, STILL TRYING TO GET A PRESENTATION ON THE FUNCTIONAL GREEN, UH, FOR THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, AND THEN ALSO AN UPDATE FROM NACD ON THE RECALIBRATION OF THE FEES FOR THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. AND THEN ALSO LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR A BRIEFING FROM, UH AIPP. UM, AARON, ARE THERE ANY UPDATES ON ANY OF THESE, THE, AT THE MOMENT THERE REALLY AREN'T MANY UPDATES. I KNOW SOMEBODY REACHED OUT, UM, LAST MONTH WITH REGARD TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING DESIGN COMMISSION. UM, WE'RE JUST, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT BEING THAT WE HAVE THESE TIME RESTRICTIONS, UM, ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE PROJECTS AS WELL AS THE BRIEFING, UM, IN A TIMELY FASHION, I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO THOSE THAT WORK TO PRESENT, UM, WAY BACK IN MARCH TO SEE WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY IS, UH, AT EACH ARE MEETING. AND THEN WE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A MEETING POINT OF THIS MONTH, UM, BUT THEY WILL BE ON THE AGENDA AS THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENTED. SO ONCE THEY'RE GETTING AN UPDATE, I WILL BE SURE TO COMMUNICATE THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, ALL RIGHT, [Item 3A] WE'LL JUST MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM THREE EIGHT SHARE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY THIS MOMENT. OKAY. TERRIFY ME MAIN FOR A SECOND. UH, YES, JORGE, SORRY. SOMEONE IS TYPING AND WE CAN HEAR YOU TYPING. IF YOU COULD PLEASE MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE. IT IS VERY DISTRACTING. [01:10:03] EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THEIR MICS MUTED UNLESS YOU ARE SPEAKING. AND THE CHAIR HAS RECOGNIZED YOU FOR THE COURTESY OF ALL THAT ARE PLUGGED IN AND THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING. PLEASE MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE UNTIL THE CHAIR HAS RECOGNIZED YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JORGE. UM, ITEM THREE, B [Item 3B] ITEMS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? OKAY. UM, I DID WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S JUST JESSICA, THE NEW DESIGN COMMISSIONER, UH, HAS, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE DOING TRAINING ANYMORE WITH COVID STUFF, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE'S BEEN GIVEN ACCESS TO HER EMAIL AND KNOWS ABOUT THESE MEETINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. UM, CAUSE I KNEW SHE WAS, UM, EXCITED TO START THEM, BUT SHE MAY, I THINK SOME OF OUR NATURAL PROCESSES MIGHT BE FALLING INTO THE CRACKS. UM, AND NOT, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REACHING OUT TO HER PERSONAL EMAIL, UM, AND NOT JUST SORT OF COMMISSION ONE THAT SHE MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO LOG INTO THAT YET. SHERIFF, I MAY, UM, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, FOR THE STAFF ANNOUNCEMENT PART. SO JESSICA, SHE HAS BEEN SWORN IN, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AN EMAIL THIS MORNING FROM THE BOARDS OF COMMISSIONS OFFICE. THEY MADE US AWARE THAT, UM, SHE HAS WENT THROUGH ALL OF HER FRIENDS AND COMPLETED ALL OF HER TRAINING AND P WERE WORN IN AS THE NEW COMMISSIONER. UM, SO SHE WAS SENT ALL OF THE INFORMATION. I DON'T THINK HE WAS ABLE TO JOIN TODAY BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY WENT THROUGH A, A FLURRY OF TRAINING AND BEING SUPPORTED. SO YOU PROBABLY WASN'T ABLE TO, UH, MAKE THE MEETING, BUT SHE IS AWARE OF IT. UM, I DID REACH OUT TO HER. I DID VIA EMAIL, HAVEN'T RECEIVED A RESPONSE YET, BUT, UM, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL THIS MORNING FROM THE BOARD OF THE COMMISSION'S OFFICE IN FARMING HERTZ, WEARING IN AS A NEW COMMISSIONER. UH, HOPEFULLY SHE'D BE ABLE TO ATTEND REMOTELY, UM, IN A FEW WEEKS, WHETHER IT BE REGULARLY SCHEDULED JUNE 22ND MEETING. OKAY. GOTCHA. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT IT JUST HAPPENED. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BO. AND UH, THANKS, AARON. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS? OKAY. [Items 3C & 4] ITEM THREE C CITY STAFF. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAD AARON? UH, JUST, JUST TO PRETTY MUCH REITERATE, UM, ONE-ON-ONE I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE, UH, SHOW MY GRATITUDE AND GIVE EVERYONE THANKS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. AND IT'S BEEN PRETTY DIFFICULT TO DO THESE REMOTELY AND IT'S IT'S I KNOW IT CAN BE DISRUPTIVE TO EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE. SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S FLEXIBILITY. UM, AS WE ALL ARE ENDURING THESE TIMES, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT THERE IS A SCHEDULE, A REGULARLY SCHEDULED DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE 22ND OF JUNE OR THE WEEK OF THE 22ND. UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE STILL DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TIME OR DAY. UM, SO ONCE I GET IN CONTACT WITH THE BOARD AND THE COMMISSION'S OFFICE, THEY PRETTY MUCH WILL SCHEDULE US A OPEN SLOT. AND THEN ONCE I RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION, I WILL FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO LET THEM KNOW OF THE MEETING. SO JUST BE AWARE THAT THE WEEK OF JUNE 22ND, UM, IT COULD TAKE PLACE THAT MONDAY, BUT THE WEEK OF THAT THERE IS ANOTHER DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING AND I WILL BE SURE TO SEND YOU GUYS THAT CORRESPONDENCE AS SOON AS SOON AS I RECEIVE IT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND DID, DID WE HAVE ANOTHER WORKING GROUP MEETING SCHEDULED? I DON'T SEE ANY, UM, THERE WAS, I WAS GONNA, AS A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ONE SCHEDULED, BUT, UM, DUE TO THIS MEETING, UM, ESPECIALLY CALLED DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING, I POSTPONE THAT, UM, BECAUSE I THINK IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH TO ASK THOSE TO COME FOR A WORKING GROUP AND THEN COME FOR, UH, UH, AN ADDITIONAL DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING. AND THEN IN A FEW WEEKS WE HAVE ANOTHER DESIGN COMMISSION MEETING. SO WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE THE WORKING GROUP, UM, SOMETIME LATER THIS MONTH. UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO GET THROUGH THE DESIGN COMMISSION ITEMS FIRST BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE WEEK OF THE 22ND. UM, OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I KNOW LAST TIME WE HAD TWO PROJECTS AND REALLY TOUGH TO GET THROUGH TWO OF THEM, BUT IT, IT IS AN END TO END TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE WERE ACTUALLY FOUR [01:15:01] THAT WANTED TO, I WAS KIND OF HOPING TO COME UP WITH THEM. I SHOULDN'T SAY THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, IT WAS KIND OF HARD TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'D BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL FOUR. SO BEING THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN A BEING THAT TWO OF THE PROJECT, THEY DID NOT ADMIT THE MATERIAL ON TIME. UM, IT MISSED THE DEADLINE. WE'RE JUST GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE OTHER TWO THAT WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR MATERIALS IN. SO THERE ARE TWO PRODUCTS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. UM, WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, UM, IT IS, UH, 2:17 PM AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME AND TRY TO ENJOY THE WEEKEND. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.