* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WE'RE UP ON VIDEO. SO I BELIEVE WE NEED A FORUM ON VIDEO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE HEALTHY MODEL ANYBODY ELSE. HOPEFULLY NOT JUST JARED. WE CAN'T SEE YOUR VIDEO. APPARENTLY YOU HAVE BANDWIDTH ISSUES. AUDIO IS COMING IN AND OUT AS WELL. UH, UM, THIS IS SO, UH, I'M COMING IN AND OUT, BUT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IT'S FINE. CAUSE I SEE ALL Y'ALL VIDEO COMING IN AND OUT. YEAH. I CAN'T SEE IT AT ALL. THAT'S CORRECT. WE CAN SEE EACH VIDEO SHARE THERE'S SOME BANDWIDTH ISSUES ON YOUR END. IT SEEMS LIKE. DO WE UNDERSTAND? I CAN SEE YOU. CAN YOU NOT ME. OR IF EVERYBODY'S SAYING IT SHARE, WE CANNOT SEE YOU AND YOUR WIFE SEEMS TO GO IN AND OUT, BUT WE CAN SEE EACH OTHER PERFECTLY AND HATE EACH OTHER AND GET FOLKS STAND AT EASE FOR, WITH WELL THINGS OUT IF IT'S JUST STANDBY. OKAY. PARDON? NO, THAT WAS YOURS. SOME GUY SAID SOMETHING ON YOUR PHONE. OKAY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME NOW? YEAH, IT'S OKAY. IT WAS ME. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT FOLKS. THIS POSITION. THAT'S ALRIGHT, [Reading of the Agenda] I'M GOING TO READ THE CONSENT. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL CALL THE PUBLIC MEETING TO ORDER IT IS SIX 20. UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM, UM, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 PLUS A MEALS 11 MEMBERS. [00:05:01] UM, I'M GOING TO, UH, BEFORE I GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAD KIND OF A VP, UM, AGENDA TOWARDS THE REAR. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A HEADS UP ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. UM, WE HAVE, BY MY COUNT AT THIS 0.7 DISCUSSION CASES, NOT TERRIBLE, NOT GREAT. UM, WE HAVE THE, UM, THE, OF GATEWAY THAT WENT ON CONSENT LAST TIME, UH, MAY GO ON CONSENT AGAIN, UNLESS SOMEBODY PULLS IT, UH, THE LONG RANGE CIP, STRATEGIC PLAN, TRANSMITTAL MEMO. UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BRIEF CONSENT ITEMS TONIGHT, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CIRCLE BACK AND DELVE INTO THAT MORE DETAIL AT A FUTURE MEETING. SO THAT WILL BE BRIEF, UH, BURNETT ROAD CORRIDOR. UM, STAFF WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT FROM THE QUARTER OFFICE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER STAFF FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS ON THE LINE. UH, APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. UM, WE'RE GOING TO HOPE TO GET TO THAT AT A NEAR MEETING SOON. UM, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION WORKING AND THEN WE HAVE A STAFF BRIEFING ON THE STREET IMPACT FEE, WHICH IS A BIG DEAL. UM, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW IT GOES. THEY HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION PREPARED IF WE GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION CASES FAIRLY QUICKLY. UM, THIS IS A PRETTY BEEFY ITEM OF A LOT OF IMPORTANCE. SO, UM, I WANT TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IF WE'RE AT WE'RE AT THERE EARLY IN THE EVENING TO GIVE STAFF SOME MORE TIME AND FOR US TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN. SO WITH THAT, I'M MOVING INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. [Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 3)] WE HAVE KRUGEL OF THE MINUTES, UM, ITEM ONE IN PA 2019 DASH 2201, 200 ACADEMY DISTRICT NINE. UM, THAT IS AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT. UM, ITEM NUMBER B TO NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ZERO 3.01. UM, DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DISTRICT ONE, UH, THAT IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 14TH. ITEM NUMBER B3, MPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ONE 5.01 50 10 AND 51 OH TWO HEFLIN LANE DISTRICT ONE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION CASE UP TONIGHT. UM, ITEM B FOUR C 14 2020 DASH ZERO TWO, TWO 50 10 AND 50 12 PEPIN LINE THAT'S WITH, UH, B3. THAT IS ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION. UM, ITEM B FIVE, NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE FIVE OH ONE MLK AND ONE 83 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ONE THAT IS UP FOR CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SIX, B SIX C 14 2020 ZERO TWO TWO MLK. AND WHAT DID HE THREE DISTRICT ONE. AND THAT IS ALSO FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEMS C B SEVEN AND B EIGHT TOGETHER. UH, FIRST ONE MPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX OH ONE SHITTY LANG MIXED USE DISTRICT THREE. AND THE SECOND ITEM C 14 2019 ZERO ZERO NINE EIGHT. UM, THOSE ARE DISCUSSION CASES FOR TONIGHT. UM, ITEM NUMBER NINE, UH, NINE THROUGH 11. THAT IS THE SEVEN ONE ONE THREE BURNET ROAD. UM, SHOAL CREEK THAT HAS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TILL JULY 14TH, ITEM NUMBER 12, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE THREE S H EAST MLK REZONING DISTRICT ONE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM TONIGHT, ITEM D 13, UH, 1509 AND FIELD ROAD, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR EIGHT. UH, DISTRICT NINE. THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT. UM, C A B 14, WHICH IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR THREE 1809 WEST ANDERSON LANE DISTRICT SEVEN. THAT IS A CONSENT ITEM. UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, ITEM NUMBER B 15, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO 200 AND TOPLESS REZONING. I DON'T EVER BE 15. THERE'S A RE NOTIFICATION ON, ON THAT ONE, UM, THAT ONE'S BEING TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF THE MONTOPOLIS CASES. UM, AND THEN ITEMS BE 16 THROUGH BE 18, HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT THROUGH JULY 14TH. THOSE ARE C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO NINE MONTOPOLIS ACRES REZONING DISTRICT THREE, UM, AT ONE OH ONE THREE ONE OH ONE SEVEN MONTOPOLIS DRIVE, UH, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE NINE CLOVIS AND CAB REZONE DISTRICT THREE. THAT'S AT 62 OH ONE CLOVIS STREET IN THREE OH ONE KEMP STREET ALSO POSTPONED TO JULY 14TH, UH, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR FOR SEX AND ACRES, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT THREE THAT'S AT THREE 16 SEX AND LANE AND 63 28 EL MORANDO STREET. UM, ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE, UH, HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONED UNTIL JULY 14TH. MMM, SORRY. I'M SEEING A CORRECTION THAT, I'M SORRY. UH, SORRY. CORRECTION ON B TWO, WHICH WAS A POSTPONEMENT THAT IS A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT, NOT A STAFF POSTPONE IT. UH, MOVING BACK INTO, UH, ITEM B 19. [00:10:01] UM, THIS IS AT FIVE OH EIGHT KEMP STREET. A REZONING. THERE IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. I NEVER BE 20. SEE 14 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE FIVE SEVEN OH SEVEN WEST 14TH APARTMENTS DISTRICT NINE, THAT ENEMAS FOR CONSENT ITEM B 21 C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO THREE HIGHWAY 71, A MOUNTAIN SHADOWS. UH, THAT ITEM IS FOR CONSENT ITEM B 22, UM, A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT C 1485 TO 8.56 RCA HIGHWAY 71, A MOUNTAIN SHADOWS DISTRICT DATE THAT IS ALSO FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEM B 23, C 14 2019 ZERO ONE ZERO SEVEN S H JACKIE ROBINSON REZONING. THAT'S A 55 11 THROUGH 55 19 JACKIE ROBINSON STREET. THAT ITEM IS FOR CONSENT ITEM B 24, C 1420 1901 OH EIGHT. PARKER HOUSE DISTRICT NINE THAT'S 2,400 FOR RIO GRANDE STREET. THAT IS A APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 28. ITEM B 25 AT, UH, 1516 SOUTH MAR BOULEVARD, C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR NINE PLANET CASE SOUTH POP REZONE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM B 26, SPC 2019 ZERO FOUR TWO NINE C VEGA MULTIFAMILY. THAT IS AT 53 13 VEGA AVENUE, BARTON CREEK WATERSHED. THAT IS A CONSENT ITEM ITEM NUMBER 27 SITE PLAN SPC 20 1905 THREE NINE EIGHT AT 84 RAINY STREET, UH, INITIAL USE PERMIT THAT IS UP FOR CONSENT ITEM B 28, SP 2019 ZERO TWO FIVE THREE SEES SPRINGDALE FARMS DISTRICT THREE AT SEVEN FIVE FIVE ROAD. UM, THAT IS AN APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT THROUGH JULY 28. ITEM B 29 A SITE PLAN SPC 2019 ZERO SIX ZERO EIGHT, A WATERLOO SCHOOL, AUSTIN CUP. UH, THAT IS A CONSENT ITEM. ITEM B 30 C EIGHT OH FIVE OH OH FOUR FIVE ZERO, A VAC D S H A RESUB DIVISION OF LOT THREE BUNCH ROAD SUBDIVISION. UM, OFF OF WEAVERVILLE ROAD. THAT ITEM IS FOR CONSENT ITEM. VAC DOT S H RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT, UH, THREE C AMENDMENT OF PLAT LOTS, UH, THAT'S 1803 THROUGH 1811 WESTERVILLE ROAD. THAT SUBDIVISION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. SO DIVISION VACATION IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT. AND FINALLY, ITEM B 32, UH, ARMADILLO PARKS DISTRICT TWO AT NINE OH ONE AND 909 ARMADILLO ROAD. UH, THAT RE SUBDIVISION IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS. UM, STAFF OFFERS REASONS THERE, UM, TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAWS. SO, UM, AND I'M SEEING ITEM B 24 AND NOTE HERE, UH, THE APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT, UM, FOR 2,400 FOR RIO GRANDE, THE, UH, UM, REZONING THAT IS A JULY 28 POSTPONEMENT. SO, UM, JUST TO, UH, RUN THROUGH ITEM ONE, B ONE, A INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ITEM B TO STAFF POSTPONEMENT, I'M SORRY. UH, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT. SO JULY 14TH, B THREE IS A DISCUSSION, UH, TOGETHER WITH BEFORE, UM, B FIVE AND B SIX, OUR CONSENT, THESE SEVEN MBA TOGETHER. THAT'S THE SHADY LANE CASE OR UP FOR DISCUSSION B NINE THROUGH 11 THAT'S BURNETT ROAD. THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT THROUGH JULY 14TH. B12, UH, IS 52 OH ONE EAST MLK. THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION A B 13, 15 OR NINE AND FIELD ROAD. WE'RE ALSO GONNA DISCUSS THAT YOU 14, 1809 WEST ANDERSON LANE IS CONSENT. BE 15. THE FIRST MONTOPOLIS CASE WE NOTIFIED THE 16 THROUGH 18, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 14TH. THOSE ARE THE OTHER THREE MONTOPOLIS CASES. THE 19 IS DISCUSSION. UH, IT WAS ANOTHER MONTOPOLIS CASE. UH, B 20 IS CONSENT. UM, B 21 IS CONSENT. THE 22 IS CONSENT. BE 23 IS CONSENT. THE 24 IS APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT THROUGH 28. THE 25, UH, IS DISCUSSION B 26 IS CONSENT B 27 IS [00:15:01] CONSENT B 28 IS APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT THROUGH JULY 28, B 29 IS CONSENT B 30 IS CONSENT. BE 31 IS CONSENT AND BE 32 IS CONSENT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, UM, PER EXHIBIT C. UM, YES. YEAH, IT WAS FOR DISCUSSION. I HAVE E 25 MARKED AS DISCUSSION. WE MOVE THAT ONE 1516. SURE. OUR COMMISSION LAID ON ANDREW RIVERA CONSENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPLICANT HAS AN AGREEMENT TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. AFRICAN STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR . UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS OR DISCUSSING ITEMS BEFORE WE MOVE PASSAGE? AND BEFORE WE GET TO RECUSALS, , I'M NOT REDUCING MUSCLES NOW. I DON'T FIND THEM SIX STAINING FROM THIS CASE, AND I WANT TO BE SHOWN THAT THE APPLICANT IS VACATED. THE BEING DONE, DO GRADE WORKFORCE HOUSING AT ANY PERCENT FIVE, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMMITTING TO AN AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME. AND I'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND THEY CAN NOT GOING TO DO IT EVEN THOUGH OTHER APPLICANTS IN THE PAST HAVE HAD SUCH AGREEMENTS LT. AND I WOULDN'T HAVE LIKED TO SEE THAT, BUT I GUESS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. SO I THINK JUST HEARING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS POSING OR SUPPORTING THIS CASE BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, I JUST FEEL I DO NOT HAVE THE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IN THIS CASE. SO I WILL BE STANDING FIRM ITEM FIVE AND SIX. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ZAHRA, ABSTAINS FROM ITEMS FIVE AND SIX, ANY OTHER PULLED ITEMS, ABSTENTIONS OR OPPOSITION BEFORE WE GET TO RECUSALS. OKAY. UM, AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FIVE AND SIX FIGURE SESSION SINCE COMMISSIONER HAS BROUGHT THAT UP. I KNOW THAT ADDS TO THE LIST, SO, OKAY. ITEMS FIVE AND SIX ARE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. UM, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH ZENOBIA JOSEPH, DO WE HAVE THEM ON THE LINE? OKAY. UH, WE'LL GIVE HER A CHANCE AGAIN, AFTER WE DO RECUSALS. UM, CAN I HEAR ANY RECUSALS AS COMMISSIONER AND THEN COMMISSIONER CAUSEY AND THEN COMMISSIONER SHEA. I'D LIKE TO RECUSE FROM ITEM D 28 SPRINGDALE FARMS WHERE THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THAT PROJECT. MISSIONER KASI RECUSING FROM, UH, B12 AND 23. MY STAFF IS INVOLVED IN THOSE TWO PROJECTS, COMMISSIONER, SHANE, AND BEFORE ON THE PROJECT. OKAY. AND JUST BE ADVISED COMMISSIONER, SHAY, YOUR VOLUMES, A LITTLE LOW. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS RECUSING? UM, I AM RECUSING FROM ITEM 26. UH, THE APPLICANT IS MY WIFE'S EMPLOYER. ANY OF THE RECUSALS WE HAVE ZENOBIA JOSEPH ON THE LINE. OKAY. UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HER ON THE LINE, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD. SO, UM, WITH, UH, ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX POOL FOR DISCUSSION AND ALL THE RECUSALS, UM, AND, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MR. THOMPSON? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. HEMPEL ALL IN FAVOR. THERE WE GO. AND I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA. I HAVE MS. JOSEPH ON THE LINE. OKAY. I'M GOING TO PULL THAT MOTION AND GO AHEAD AND LET JOSEPH SPEAK STAR SIX TO UNMUTE . THIS IS AN OB A JOSEPH. [00:20:02] GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. I'M ZENOBIA JOSEPH. I ACTUALLY SENT YOU AN EMAIL WITH MY CONCERNS, UH, SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO VEGA MULTIFAMILY, IT SAYS IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS THAT IT'S FOUR FOR MULTIFAMILY UNITS. HOWEVER, I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT ONLY 15 OF THE 330 UNITS ARE ACTUALLY THREE BEDROOM. THE REST OF THE, UH, I AM UNITS ARE ACTUALLY ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOMS. AND SO I ASKED THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN ON JUNE 18TH, FOR THEM TO CLARIFY HOW THE PROPERTY WAS NAMED MULTIFAMILY, IF IT ACTUALLY CATERS TO SINGLE INDIVIDUALS. UM, AND SO I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE SIDE OF THE ADJACENT TO ST. ANDREW'S EPISCOPAL SCHOOL, AND IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM REGION SCHOOL, BUT IT ACTUALLY APPEARS TO BE, UM, MORE FOCUSED ON THE NXE 4,000 EMPLOYEES AND AMD 1900 EMPLOYEES. I WOULD ALSO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT'S 50% OF THE UNITS HAVE TO BE 80% AREA MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY $52,850. AND SO IT'S AN UNUSUAL STRUCTURE, BUT THIS IS A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY EQUITABLE IN THAT REGARD BECAUSE THE HIGHER OPPORTUNITY AREAS HAVE HIGHER INCOME LEVELS. SO FAMILIES ARE BEING PROHIBITED FROM LIVING THERE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD. I'M NOT SURE. UM, IF THERE'S A WAY FOR YOU TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO MULTIFAMILY AND WHY IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS SUCH, IF IT'S NOT CATERING TO THE FAMILIES. AND I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION AS WELL THAT THERE'S A, A DOG SPA, BUT THERE'S NOTHING RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO A PLAYGROUND OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD ACTUALLY INCITE, UM, A FAMILY WITH KIDS TO ACTUALLY MOVE THERE. SO I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION IN THE NUMBER TWO, I JUST ASKED SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE THE STATUTORY DEFINITIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA AND LOW INTENSITY ZONE, YOUR BACKUP MATERIAL, SPECIFIES LOW INTENSITY ZONE, BUT THE HAKA ACTUALLY REFERS TO IT AS A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA. THE SAME PARTNER THAT'S WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A HAKA ALSO DEVELOP SO-CALLED NUMBER TWO, THE SOUTH, UM, SOUTH CONGRESS DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND SO THERE'S THAT SAME FINANCIAL STRUCTURE. THAT'S WHERE 80% AREA MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD GO DOWN TO 60%, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SPECIFIED IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS. 80% AREA, MEDIAN FAMILY HAS COME WITH A LITTLE MISLEADING. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST PUT, IS THERE A MORE SUITABLE NAME FOR THE PROPERTY? AND WHEN I ASKED THAT THE HAKA MEETING, I WAS JUST BASICALLY TOLD THAT THE NAME WOULD EVENTUALLY CHANGE TO SOMETHING PRETTIER. AND SO IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS. AND SO MY OPPOSITION, AS IT RELATED TO TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IN 1964, IS THAT THE MINORITIES AND THE AFRICAN AMERICANS WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY DISADVANTAGED FROM LIVING THERE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONERS, IF WE'RE GONNA GET INTO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PULL IT UP. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO PULL UP FOR DISCUSSION? IF YOU'RE HONEST WITH ME NOW OH, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER. I CAN HEAR YOU. YOU'RE WISHING TO PULL UP FOR DISCUSSION. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I FORGOT. HAD TO BE AUDIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT PLEASE. OKAY. UM, THAT IS ITEMS C 26 PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THE, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS RED WITH ITEMS FIVE AND B6 AND THE 26, UH, PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. AND, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE MINUTES AND THE BI ITEMS AS WELL, UM, TO PASS A C ONE AND C TWO, WHICH ARE THE, UH, LONG RANGE SIP TRANSMITTAL CIP TRANSMITTAL, AND THE NORTH BURNET GATEWAY, UH, UM, COMBINING PLAN REGULATING PLAN, RATHER THE MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HANDFUL? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SECOND. AND IF YOU'RE ACCUSING COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL, UH, CHRIS, YOUR SCHEIDER'S SECONDS, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AND PASSING THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PAST AS RED. THERE WE GO. UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO WE ARE [00:25:01] GONNA MOVE IN ORDER, UM, [Items B3 & B4] ON THIS ONE. SO, UM, FIRST LET'S TAKE UP ITEMS, UH, B3. AND BEFORE TOGETHER THAT IS 50 10 AND 51 OH TWO HEFLIN LANE. UM, IT'S A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND A ZONING CHANGE FROM AND P UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, THE STAFF ON THE LINE? I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST, BUT EVEN TRUE AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. I'M KATHLEEN FOX. I'M A PLANNER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS ITEM B THREE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NPA DASH 2019 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE 5.01. THE ADDRESSES ARE FIVE ZERO ONE ZERO AND FIVE ONE OH TWO HEFLIN LANE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EAST MLK COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGE REQUEST IS FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, TO CONSTRUCT 34 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE LONG WAGE PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDS IS CHANGED BASED ON HOUSING POLICIES AND TEXTS. IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE EAST MLK COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND AUSTIN STRATEGIC HOUSING PLOOP BRANCH, WHICH SUPPORTS INFILL HOUSING AND A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES. SPECIFICALLY THE EAST MLK COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN STATES, UH, FOR OBJECTIVE ONE OBJECTIVE 5.1 ALLOW A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL TYPES ON LARGER TRACKS HAVING ACCESS TO MAJOR ROADWAYS, WHICH THIS DOES ACTION, 44 NOW MIXED RESIDENTIAL AND SMALL LOTS SINGLE FAMILY ON THE LARGER VACANT PARCEL OFF OF EAST MLK AND HEFLIN, UM, AND CONCUR. AND I DID WANT TO ADD THE EAST MLK COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM DID SUBMIT A LETTER, WHICH IS NEUTRAL ON THIS REQUEST AND SHOULD BE PART OF YOUR BACKUP. THANK YOU. . THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE HEATHER CHAVAN UNDER TWO PARTICIPANTS TO SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE MR. RIVERA, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING OR I COULDN'T HEAR YOU FILLING YOUR MIND WITH THE PARTICIPANTS. SO LIKE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE OKAY. MS. CHAFING, IF YOU ARE NOT THERE, WE CAN HEAR BACK FROM YOU LAST CALL FOR NOW. DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE YOU GO. YES, PLEASE PROCEED. I THINK I HIT POUND SIX CASE FOR BEFORE ZONING CASE 14 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO TWO AGAIN, 50 10 AND 51 OH TWO HEPARIN LANE OR REQUEST IS TO GO FROM S AND P TO S F AND P IT'S A FIVE ACRE SITE. WE STARTED TO COVER IT AT THE LAST MEETING, FAFSA RECOMMENDING THE REQUEST TO GO TO SFC. IT'S ON THE MORE SIDE OF HEFLIN LANE BETWEEN MLK AND WEBER VILLE ROAD TO LOCK IT AND DEVELOPED EXCEPT FOR A CONCRETE DRAINAGE CHANNEL. THERE IS A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN WITHIN THE CHANNEL AND ON OTHER PARTS OF THE LOT, IT'S SURROUNDED BY SS THREE PROPERTIES WITH SINGLE FANDOM AND DUPLEX RESIDENCY. THERE'S ALSO SOME SF SIX AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ROAD WITH HIGH DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL ABOUT A BLOCK TO THE SOUTH IS AN AREA OF NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SF FOR A AND P ZONING THAT DOES HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENT. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED INTERESTING IS THAT M'S GROVE DRIVE GETTING INTO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM THE NORTH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS A VERY [00:30:01] HIGH THAT THERE IS NO PLAN TO EXTEND THIS ROAD OR TO CONNECT IT TO AN OKAY. UM, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR IT TO BE, UH, A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, BUT THERE ARE NO PLANS EITHER CITY TO EXTEND THAT ROADWAY AND NO CONNECTION TO HAVE ONE. AGAIN, STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE SF SIX REQUESTS. THEY WERE PROPOSING THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSING ROUGHLY 34 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AS OF SIX IS THE LEAST INTENSIVE CATEGORY THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS UNITS TO BE CLUSTERED INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY SEPARATE LAW, WHICH IS VERY HARD TO, UH, DEVELOP ON A PROPERTY WITH THIS KIND OF CONFIGURATION AND DRAINAGE FEATURES, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THOSE FEATURES. THERE IS CORRESPONDENCE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, AND I BELIEVE THERE WERE PEOPLE LINED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AS WELL AS APPLICANTS AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE VICTORIA HUSKY ON THE LINE? THE APPLICANT I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. UM, AND, UH, ARE YOU WATCHING THE PRESENTATION LIKE WE ARE, OR DO YOU NEED ME TO GIVE YOU AN AUDIO CUE WHEN WE'VE GONE TO THE SLIDE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I NEED YOU TO GIVE ME AN AUDIO CUE, CAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT WATCHING IT ALL. OKAY. I'LL STICK WITH YOU. YOU JUST, UH, SAY WHICH SLIDE DO YOU WANT? AND I'LL TELL YOU WHEN WE'RE THERE. GOOD. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES SOMEBODY WHEN YOU'RE ON YOUR FIRST LINE, WE'RE THERE. OKAY, GREAT. UM, DID HE MEAN COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA HOUSEY WITH ROVER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND YOU CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE? OKAY. THE TWO SUBJECT TRACKS COMBINED ARE 5.03 ACRES OF LAND THAT IS UNDEVELOPED. THE SITE IS A GREEN SITE AND AS WELL, SITUATED TO RECEIVE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT CONCERN FOR DISPLACEMENT OF EXISTING RESIDENTS. NEXT SITE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. OKAY. COMBINED FUTURE RAINY SNAP DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR SINGLE FAMILY USE. SO THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA, THE SINGLE FAMILY FLOOD DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR SF ONE THROUGH SF FOR A ZONING DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE FLOWN TO HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH WILL MAINTAIN THE SINGLE OWNERSHIP AND LOOK WHILE ALLOWING FLEXIBILITY TO WORK AROUND NATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL PEEPERS NEXT TIME. OKAY. OKAY. DOES THAT MEAN REQUESTED TO CHANGE FROM AND WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT THE SSX ZONING DISTRICT IS THAT IT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSES WITHOUT REQUIRING EACH HOUSE TO BE ON AN INDIVIDUAL LOT. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT ALLOWS A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY TO WORK AROUND TREES, CREEKS, EASEMENTS, AND OTHER LAND FEATURES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO IF THAT'S THE FORM AND RESIGNING AT THE SITE ARE SUPPORTED BY MANY, IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND GOALS, MOST COMPREHENSIVELY THOUGH, THE FIRST LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION POLICY COMMUNICATE BEST ALIGN LAND USE, AND TRANSPORTATION PLANNING TO ACHIEVE A COMPACT AND CONNECTED CITY IN LINE WITH GROWTH WITH THE GRINCH CONCEPT MAP, I WORK KEY PHRASES SOUND IN THIS CHAPTER INCLUDE INCENTIVIZING AND SKILL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTING EFFICIENT USE OF LAND MEETING HOUSE AND EMPLOYMENT NEEDS IN A SUSTAINABLE MANNER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. I HEAR YOU SEE THE LOCATIONAL PROXIMITY TO IMAGINE US ACTIVITY QUARTERS AND EXISTING TRANSIT STOP PROPERTY AS WELL, POSITIONED AT LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM THE CORRIDORS FURTHER, THIS LOCATION WILL START TO, UM, THIS LOCATION WILL START TO PROVIDE AN ORDERLY TRANSITION OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY BETWEEN THE INTERIOR RESIDENCE, INTERIOR NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS AND THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE ACTIVITY CORRIDORS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. MOST IMPORTANTLY ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY IS THAT IT FRONTS HEFLIN LANE, WHICH IS A TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK IDENTIFIED BY THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORKS OR ROADWAYS THAT TAKE PRIORITY IN BEING IMPROVED FOR MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORT TRANSIT OPTIONS AT THIS TIME. AND OFTEN THAT INCLUDES PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE AND VEHICULAR MODE. AND ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO EXISTING TRANSIT SERVICE AND IS CLOSE TO THE BUS RAPID TRANSIT ON MLK, WHICH IS JUST A QUARTER MILE AWAY. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. YOU MENTIONED THAT THOSE HECKLING LANE WORKING LESS WITH THE SUBJECT TRACKS ON THE RIGHT. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE BRIDGE WHERE FORT BRANCH [00:35:01] CREEK CROSSES UNDERNEATH HASSAN LANE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AND THIS WAS LOOKING ESM HAS BEEN LANE TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION WITH WEBER BELT ROAD. THE CONSTRUCTION YOU SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE IS A NEW HOME RECENTLY BUILT WITHIN THE PAST YEAR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO THIS SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED ZONING SHOWS HOW SIMILAR THE TWO DISTRICTS ARE. THEY ALLOWED NEARLY THE SAME DENSITY AT 12 UNITS PER ACRE. THEY ALLOWED THE SAME BUILDING HEIGHT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE SURROUNDING US SF THREE PROPERTY. AGAIN, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT SFX ALLOWS CLUSTERING OF STRUCTURES TO WORK AROUND KEY LAND FEATURES. ANOTHER KEY DIFFERENCE IS THAT SFX PUTS A 25 FOOT NOBEL SETBACK FROM ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED LESS THAN SFX, WHICH MEANS EVERY BOUNDARY OF THIS 5.03 ACRES WILL HAVE A 25 FOOT, NO BILL COMPATIBILITY SETBACK. AND WITH THE SMALLER SETBACKS ALLOWED BY SSRA YOU'LL HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S MUCH CLOSER TO THE EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE THERE TODAY. ALSO VERY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE RESIDENT FOCUSED CONCERNS FOR INCREASE IN PREVIOUS COVER IS THAT SFX WILL HOUSE 15% LESS THAN PREVIOUS POWER THAN WHAT IS ALLOWED TODAY. UNDER SF FORAY TODAY, THE DEVELOPERS COULD BUILD UP TO 60 HOMES ON 60 LOT WITH EACH LOT, HAVING 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER YET OUR CLIENTS ARE HERE ASKING FOR A DECREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER BY THE REQUESTING OF SFX ZONING. I WOULD SAY SEEMS LIKE AN WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AS THE TECHNICAL MATTERS OF IT, IT REALLY IS A DOWN ZONING FROM SEVERAL OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS AT NEXT SLIDE, OKAY. CREEK AND THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE THAT BISECTS THE PROPERTY AS THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT LAND FEATURE. THE DEVELOPER HAS ENGAGED AN ENGINEER FROM EARLY ON TO ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY IS FEASIBLE AND THAT ENGINEER IS AVAILABLE THIS EVENING. IF NEEDED NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. HIS INPUT WAS SOUGHT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, PROJECT CENTRAL EAST, AND LK NEIGHBORHOODS PLAYING GOALS EITHER DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY. AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THOSE THERE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO PLAN THAT RESULTED FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MOST VISUALLY APPEALING IS THE LINEAR PARK ALONG THE CREEK. THE PARK PROVIDES A NICE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE SOUTH OF HEFLIN LANE. THE PARK IS TO BE PRIVATELY OWNED, CONSTRUCTED, AND MAINTAINED, BUT IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS IN, IN THE AREA. UM, ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT AS HEATHER MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, HPV IS NOT INTERESTED IN THE VEHICULAR CONNECTIVITY, UH, FOR, FOR MOBILE TRAFFIC, UM, SLOW PATTERNS AT THE SITE. UM, SO AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, UM, IN THIS AREA ONLY. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE IT BACKS UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NORTH NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. OKAY. THE SUPPORT THIS STONING, THE THREE ZONING, IT OFFERS 34 NEW HOMES ON A TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK. THE SITE DESIGN ADDRESSES RESIDENT CONCERNS FOR IMPRE INCREASED COVER AND DECREASE TREE PROTECTION AND SAID SIX OFFERS 15 TO 20 MORE FEET OF BUFFER DISTANCE FROM EXISTING HOME. AND THE PRIVATE DRIVES THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE LESS IMPACT ON TAXPAYER DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. UM, SO WITH THIS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR BOTH THE NCA AND THE REZONING, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THAT, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE, OH, I'M SORRY. UH, I'M STRUGGLING TO REMEMBER THE ORDER THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN. UM, I THINK WE ARE GOING AHEAD AND TAKING THE CITIZEN TESTIMONY FIRST, RIGHT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'M GETTING SOME NODS. UM, SO, UH, DO WE HAVE THE, UM, THE APPLICANTS FOR, UM, RUN THROUGH OR DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK? UM, I JUST WANTED TO JUST REITERATE A LOT OF WHAT VICTORIA HAS PROVIDED. THIS SIDE IS AN EXCELLENT CANDIDATE FOR ASSETS TO PROVIDE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR NOT ONLY TREE PRESERVATION, BUT ALSO TO DESIGN. IT DOES HAVE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS. AND AS A SIX WITH CERTAINLY PROVIDE BECAUSE THE BURGLARY OF HONORING A LOT OF THE CONSTRAINTS, BUT ALSO PROVIDED NEEDED HOUSING ALONG THIS TRAIN AND [00:40:01] THE CORRIDOR IT'S MISSING LITTLE PROJECT THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT SHOULD BE ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR SUPPORT AND, UH, WE'RE BOTH HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I'VE GOTTEN A LOT, JOEL BACH. OKAY. YES. THIS IS JOEL VODKA. CUTTING OUT MR. BUCK, MR. BACH, WE DON'T HAVE YOU, UM, YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. YES. THIS IS JUUL BACH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY I'M THE ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. AND ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE WHAT VICTORIAN RON HAS SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, THE ZONING DEFINITELY HELPS ME AS AN ENGINEER, UH, DO A BETTER PROJECT, UH, AND WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BE SAYING THAT I'M STANDING BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, THAT IS IT FOR IN FAVOR AND OPPOSITION. I HAVE ADAM SHARP. I YOU'RE SIX MINUTES. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING. I AM ADAM SHARP AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LOCATED JUST NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY. I'M HERE REPRESENTING OVER 65 HOUSEHOLDS AND AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. I WANT TO BE A VOICE FOR MY COMMUNITY. SO I'D LIKE TO READ A FEW EXCERPTS FROM THE EMAILS WHICH ARE ATTACHED TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. I BELIEVE THIS WILL GIVE YOU A BROAD VIEW OF THE FEELINGS OF MY NEIGHBOR, ALTHOUGH THAT SHOULD BE FAIRLY OBVIOUS TO THIS COMMISSION. SINCE THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN FIGHTING AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR YEARS. SO MANY YEARS. IN FACT, I HAD SEVERAL MEMBERS, PARTICULARLY THE ORIGINAL STONE GATE HOMEOWNERS ARE NOW TOO ELDERLY AND NOT FAMILIAR WITH EMAIL OR DO MEETINGS IN SHORT. THEY ARE VERY PRACTICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC FLOODING AND GENERAL DISTRESS OF THESE DEVELOPERS SINCE PURCHASING. OKAY. SO THIS IS AN EMAIL FROM AMANDA WILLARD SINCE PURCHASING OUR HOME IN 2012. THE NUMBER OF TIMES OUR HOUSE IS FLOODED, HAS INCREASED STEADILY ITS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA HAS INCREASED. WE HAVE ALREADY REPLACED FOUR AND HAD TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL INSTALL AND EXPENSIVE DRAIN SYSTEM FOR OUR HOUSE. THIS IS FROM AN EMAIL FROM ANDREA PETITE, WHO IS, UH, BORN AND RAISED IN SEVEN DAYS. THIS PROJECT, THE PROJECT DEVELOPERS IN PARTICULAR HAVE A HISTORY OF SAYING ONE THING TO THE PLANNING, COMMISSIONING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ADVERTISING QUITE A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT ON THEIR WEBSITE. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE MOTIVE THAT THE PLANNING AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE THEMSELVES DEVELOPERS OR FAMILY MEMBERS, OR OUR CLOSE COLLEAGUES OR BUDDY, THIS IS A CONFLICT I PUT THEM INTERESTS, UH, REGARDLESS OF RECUSAL. UH, THIS IS FROM AN EMAIL FROM DELAINE. LENARDO THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IN THIS AREA IN AN AREA THAT IS PRONE TO FLOODING AND HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WILL ONLY SERVE TO INCREASE THE FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE AGGREGATE OF HIGH DENSITY PROJECTS. SO ROBBING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY HAD AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC. NOW I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GIVE MY FEELINGS JUST ON ALL THE EAST SIDE DEVELOPMENTS AS A WHOLE. AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T BRING UP THE TOPIC OF RACE AND EQUALITY, AS IT RELATES TO THE RYAN YOUTH AND PLANNING, AND OFTEN DATING BACK TO THE RACIST CITY PLAN OF 1928, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS DONE NOTHING BUT SEGREGATE AND NEGLECT. THE BLACK CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, THESE PRACTICES ARE ALIVE AND WELL TODAY, EVEN THOUGH WE SEE AUSTRIA AUSTIN AS A BASTION OF LIBERAL IDEALS, WHEN I DRIVE AROUND MY EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL I SEE IS INEQUITY DEVELOPERS HAVE COME INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THEIR ENDLESS SUPPLIES AND CASH TO BUY UP AS MUCH LAND AS THEY CAN. THEN WITH THE HELP OF THIS VERY COMMISSION ARE ALLOWED TO SQUEEZE EVERY DOLLAR AND CENT THEY CAN WITH NO REGARD TO THE CHARACTER AND HABITS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CULTURAL ANCHORS, THEIR FAMILIES TO GO TOGETHER, NEIGHBORS, TO GET TO KNOW AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER. YOU CAN GO TOE TO TOE IN HIGHLY COMPETITIVE ROSEBUSH CUP COMPETITION, BUT THE PRACTICE OF THIS COMMISSION ARE TEARING IT APART. I EMPLOYED THIS COMMISSION TO PUMP THE BRAKES ON THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS. WE DON'T NEED 35 DUPLEXES BUILT IN OUR BACKYARD. HOW DOES THIS IMPROVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW DOES THIS HELP MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? ALL THIS DOES IS I GET THE GREEN DEVELOPERS WHO ARE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN ONCE THEY'RE DONE MAKING THEIR MONEY, UH, WITH THE REST OF MY TIME. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR TIME, MR. SHARP, UM, STICK AROUND. IF, IF, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU PLEASE, [00:45:01] WAS IT? I HEARD THE BUZZER. UM, THAT'S MR. RIVERA. NO, WAIT, THREE MORE MINUTES. WE APOLOGIZE. THIS IS SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MORE MINUTES. OKAY. WITH THE REST OF MY TIME, I'M A LONG TIME COMMUNITY LEADER, BUT LET ME A DELCOS ESSAY TITLED I LIVE IN EAST AUSTIN FOR 60 YEARS AND I DON'T RECOGNIZE IT ANYMORE. HE WRITES RIGHT HERE, BOTH OF THEM ONE DAY, MY GRANDCHILDREN AND GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL NEVER KNOW THAT THRIVING BLACK COMMUNITY EVER EXISTED IN EAST AUSTIN. WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1957 WITH MY HUSBAND, WE HAD EVERYTHING WE NEEDED TO SUPPORT OURSELVES, THE WORKSPACE CHURCHES, AND A COLLEGE OLDER THAN BEN. THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS I'LL RUN BY AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF AUSTIN BLACK COMMUNITY, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAD COMFORTABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, GREENLAWN LIBRARIES, PARKS, AND POOLS, SIDEWALKS, AND BEAUTIFUL TREES. THE FULL SOCIOECONOMIC SPECTRUM WAS REPRESENTATIVE WITH NO CONFLICT BETWEEN THEM EAST. AUSTIN STILL HAS THESE QUALITIES, WHICH SURPRISES SOME PEOPLE. I CERTAINLY DON'T BEGRUDGE ANYONE THE RIGHT TO MOVE TO EAST AUSTIN. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A WELCOMING PLACE AND REMAIN. SO TODAY BLACKS WERE OSTRACIZED FROM WEST AUSTIN FOR SO LONG, AND I COULDN'T STAND TO BE ACCUSED OF THE SAME DISCRIMINATION, BUT THE MORE WE IMPROVE EAST AUSTIN, THE MORE ATTRACTIVE IT BECOMES TO OTHERS. IT'S INEVITABLE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ABSORBS THE PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE IN THEIR CULTURE AND THIS DILUTES WHAT EXISTED BEFORE. I JUST HOPE IT DOESN'T RESULT IN THE COMPLETE LOSS OF EAST AUSTIN, BLACK IDENTITY OR RESPECT FOR WHAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTED TO AUSTIN'S HISTORY AND DIVERSITY. IT'S SAD TO ME THAT WHEN AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE RIGHT HERE TODAY, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING OFTEN BLACK COMMUNITY AND CULTURE THAT CHANGES HAPPENED QUICKLY. AND I FEAR WE'RE LOSING SOMETHING OF REAL VALUE TO OUR CITY, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE HISTORY AND FOR BLACK PEOPLE. MY PLEA HERE IS THAT ALL THE CHAINS KNOCK-ON AT SUCH A HIGH COST THAT IS THAT OFTEN NOT FORGET THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF EAST AUSTIN, BLACK COMMUNITY, WHICH MADE THE CITY WHEN THE CITY WOULDN'T HAVE THAT BE UTILITIES FOR BLACK FAMILIES, TRYING TO MOVE INTO LESS OFTEN THE BLACK COMMUNITY DIDN'T ROLL OVER. WE DREW IT AND SET UP A RISK COMMUNITY THAT IN MANY WAYS IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE SAW WEST UP EAST AVENUE. NOW INTERSTATE 35, THOSE GENERATIONS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN FAMILIES DESERVE TO BE REMEMBERED FOR WHAT THEY GAVE TO OUR WONDERFUL CITY. AGAIN, THIS IS UNFAIR TO, FROM THE BOOK, ALL LINES, PORTRAITS OF EAST AUSTIN IN CLOTHING. I KNOW YOU CAN'T TAKE BACK ALL THE DAMAGE YOU'VE DONE TO THE EAST SIDE OF AUSTIN. THAT'S AN IDEA. THAT'S AN TONIGHT, YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE IT. YOU CAN CHOOSE TO CONTINUE TO GENTRIFY THE AREA WHICH BENEFITS NO ONE BUT GREEDY DEVELOPERS, OR YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION HERE, WHICH IS THE KEEP ZONING DESIGNATION SF FOR A AND P UH, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, KEEPING IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WITH THAT I YIELD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE A REBUTTAL REBUTTAL FROM THE APPLICANT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY. AGAIN WITH, UH, FOR DESIGN, UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT'S WORKING ON THIS PROJECT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT TEAMS. AND, UM, THESE CASES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD BACK IN 2015, DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS, DIFFERENT AGENTS, UH, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO WE ARE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAS BEEN SEEN ON A DEVELOPER'S WEBSITE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE WEBSITE OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT. I CAN TELL YOU THE CURRENT DEVELOPER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. UM, SO DEVELOPMENT HERE WILL HELP EXISTING DRAINAGE PATTERNS. RIGHT NOW THERE'S DEVELOPED THERE'S THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES. AND I CAN LET THE ENGINEER SPEAK TO THAT, BUT NO THERE'S DRAINAGE ISSUES BECAUSE THERE PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN PLACE AND DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE WILL HELP ASSIST WITH SOME OF THAT. UM, AND IN REFERENCE TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT WANTING 35 HOMES IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THEY DON'T NEED 35 HOMES. UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT TODAY THE PROPERTY CANDY DIVIDED INTO, INTO, UP TO 60 LOTS WITH, WITH 60 HOMES. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO THERE. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS LOT. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT HOUSES THAT WE REALLY, REALLY NEED, AND IN A WAY THAT IS GOING TO WORK BETTER WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT'S EXISTING TODAY. UM, SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ONLY PROPOSING, UH, 34 UNITS AT THIS SITE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTIVITY THAT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT'LL BE POSSIBLE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL HELP PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA TO HAVE BETTER ACCESS TO, UH, TRANSIT THAT'S ALONG MLK. UM, WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD MORE HOMES ON AN EMPTY LOT. WE'RE NOT DISPLACING ANYONE, THERE'S NOT ANYONE THAT'S GETTING KICKED TO THE CURB, UM, [00:50:01] THAT LIVES ON THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND INVITE MORE FAMILIES TO COME LIVE IN THIS AREA RIGHT NOW TO DEVELOP UNDER SFD ZONING AND HOUSING PRICES ARE SO EXTENSIVE. THE COST OF LAND IS SO EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, SF SIX DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A GREATER LEVEL OF HOUSING, DIVERSITY AS WELL AS DIVERSITY IN, IN FAMILIES AND INCOMES, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A CHEAPER, MORE AFFORDABLE. I DON'T MEAN CHEAPER AS IN POOR QUALITY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A MORE AFFORDABLE PRODUCT IN THE END VERSUS AN SF THREE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S GOING TO COST MUCH MORE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH HARDER FOR, YOU KNOW, A WORKING CLASS FAMILY TO ACHIEVE BUYING THAT KIND OF UNIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AGAIN. WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, YOU HAVE, OR, OR ROUND ROBIN PREFERABLY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO DEBATE FOR SURE. SORRY, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS OF APPLICANTS, THEN IT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE SPEAKERS AS WELL. SO I GRABBED MY FIRST QUESTION FOR THE AFRICAN BUZZ. WAS THERE ANY SORT OF CONVERSATION CONSIDERATION FOR ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING BESIDES DELEGATION OF FLIGHT SOUNDS AND UNITS FOR THAT? OR IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION IN REGARDS TO THAT? UM, I APOLOGIZE. UM, THE, THE, YOUR QUESTION I DIDN'T QUITE GET BECAUSE THE SOUND CAME THROUGH, YOU'RE KIND OF MUFFLED. UM, BUT I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE I HAD MY VOLUME TOO, TOO LOUD. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? SURE. I WAS JUST ASKING ME IF THERE WAS ANY CONSIDERATION BY THE APPLICANT IN REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE SIDE OR SOME MITIGATION OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE UNITS THAT WILL BE CREATED, UM, AT THIS TIME. NO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT CONSIDERATION TO DO THAT. UM, THEY COULD, IF THEY WERE TO GO TO AN MF ZONING TYPE, UM, BUT WITH THIS, WITH THIS LEARNING TYPE AND WITH THIS PRODUCT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, AFFORDABLE OPTIONS WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, WARRANTS, UM, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUT MORE UNITS HERE, THEN THAT WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPTION FOR THIS, FOR THE PROJECT AND THE SAUCY. YOU'RE, YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU CAN GET SOME BETTER RECEPTION, I WILL SAY, TOO, THAT WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY, THEY ACTUALLY DIDN'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THIS LOCATION, BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. BYE, SIR. FOLLOW UP QUESTION. THIS MIGHT BE, UM, BRANCH BRANCHING. I MIGHT BE ABLE TO KNOW. CAN YOU ALL SPEAK TO THE CONCERN ABOUT FLOODING ON THE CIDERS OR FLOODING? SURE. THIS IS JOEL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. AGAIN, THANK YOU. WE'VE LOST YOU, JOEL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN NOW GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO, UM, I'M TOLD BACH I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER HERE IN AUSTIN. AND, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT, UH, WE, UH, HAD A MEETING WITH, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, DRAINAGE DRAINAGE, REVIEWER TEAM, AND, UH, UH, W W LOOK AT THIS SITE AS KIND OF UNIQUELY SET UP AT THE MIDPOINT OF FOREFRONT WATERSHED. AND IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN A GOOD PLACE WHERE, UH, VIA THIS SITE PLAN, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO, UH, MAKE THE DRAINAGE BETTER. IT MAY JUST BE FOR A, A, YOU KNOW, A SHORT STRETCH OF THIS WATERSHED, UH, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE MY JOB, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ZONING IN HAND AND WITH THE SITE PLAN, UH, TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR, FOR THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IMMINENT AREA. THANK YOU. IN TERMS OF DO THE FIVE BUYING STILL WITHIN MY SLOT UNTIL THE BUZZER GOES, I THINK THIS WILL BE, MY QUESTION IS FOR THE STONE DICK NEWMAN ASSOCIATION HAD SPOKEN EARLIER, AND I HOPE THEY'RE STILL ON THE LINE. I JUST WANNA CHECK ENGLISH. I GUESS THE MLK CONTACT TEAM SENT A LETTER THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING ARTICLES AND IN THE CASE, AND THE REASON FOR DOING THAT WAS MORE BOSSES [00:55:01] AND THAT THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO CERTAIN MATTERS WITHIN THE GAYS. AND THAT WAS FAR AS THE BACKUP. SO I JUST WANT TO SEE IF DON'T GET BONDS AND I'LL GO CONTACT HIM. AND WHY IS THAT? YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT. HI, THIS IS ADAM SHARP. I BELIEVE THAT QUESTION WAS FOR ME, CORRECT? SURE. AND CAN YOU JUST REPEAT IT BECAUSE IT, ARE YOU ASKING WHY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT POSITION THAN THE CONTACT WORK? YES AND NO, Y'ALL Y'ALL WILL BE PART OF THE CONTACTING WHILE I'M GETTING SICK. I'M JUST ASKING GUESTS FOR THE CONCERT. OH, WE JUST, HAVEN'T BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE, UM, MLK CONTACT GROUP ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, SONY CASE. AND YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT ORGANIZATION, TO BE HONEST. I KNOW THAT'S NOT A REALLY GRISHA ANSWER, BUT, UM, I GUESS THAT'S ALL I CAN REALLY OFFER YOU RIGHT NOW. OKAY. COUNTRY, YOU GUYS SWEDEN? SURE. I JUST HAD A QUESTION I WANTED TO SEE IF THE, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE IS SO ON THE LINE, IF THERE'S A RESPONSE TO THE, UM, TO THE APPLICANT'S COMMENT, UH, OR MS. HAAS'S COMMENT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE SITE. MR. SHARP, I THINK THAT'S TO YOU. OKAY. THIS IS ADAM SHARP AGAIN. UM, YEAH, IN THAT MEETING, I REMEMBER THERE WERE A FEW RESIDENT TOO. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T ALL OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT THERE WERE A FEW WHO DIDN'T WANT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT IT WOULD BRING, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT THE GREATEST NEIGHBORS. UM, I THINK IT'S HOW THEY WOULD DESCRIBE IT. UM, AND YEAH, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T PERSONALLY SHARE THAT OPINION, BUT THAT WAS THE OPINION OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS. OKAY. AND SO THAT IS NOT AN OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT YOU'RE SAYING A FEW MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE EXPRESSED THAT. YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. GREAT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR THE ROUND ROBIN AROUND, UH, MR. SHARP? I ACTUALLY, I, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE, UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH ILLUMINATING, UH, THESE CASES BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE CASES TONIGHT AND COMING UP, UM, WHERE YOU HAVE MORE OF A STANDARD BASED SINGLE FAMILY ZONING THAT IS GOING TO A ZONING OF SFI REST OF SIX THAT ALLOWS, UM, UH, SOME, UH, CREATIVE PLACEMENT OF HOUSING ON A LOT. AND PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE LOTS THAT ARE LARGE, BUT ONLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STREET FRONTAGE. THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPERS LIKE TO DO TO PUT A LOT OF UNITS THERE. SO, UM, COULD, COULD YOU GO INTO YOUR ACCOUNT? YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEING OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT DUPLEXES MIGHT BE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD STILL, UH, ALLOW SEVERAL NEW HOMES TO BE BUILT ON THE, UM, ON THE LAW, AFTER A LEGAL SUBDIVISION AND POTENTIALLY AFTER A FLAG, LOT SUBDIVISION, UM, A NUMBER OF LOTS, UM, THOSE HOUSES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER THAN THEY WOULD, UH, THEN THE DUPLEXES WOULD UNDER, UH, THE PROPOSALS. SO, UM, CAN, UH, I DUNNO IF IN THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN THERE, UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING VERSUS THE ZONING THAT IS BEING PROPOSED OR CONFLICT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MR. SHARP? SURE, SURE. SHARP. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK REMINDER. SO LIKE STAR SIX TO, HEY GUYS, THIS IS ADAM SOUTHFIELD WHERE YOU GUYS, YOU GOTTA GET ME. I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. YEAH. GREAT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS JUST, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON ONE LOT WITH FRONT AND BACK YARD. IF YOU DRIVE AROUND, YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S WITHIN EMILY STONE GATE, YOU KNOW, EVERY HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US HAVE FRONT YARD. ALL OF US HAVE BACKYARDS THERE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE HOUSES BUILT ON A SINGLE LOT. AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING, THE INS AND OUTS OF ZONINGS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL THE PARTICULARS, BUT YOU KNOW, ME AND MY NEIGHBORS JUST [01:00:01] WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE TO LOOK THE WAY THAT IT DOES. AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 25 OR 35 HOUSES BUILT WHERE, YOU KNOW, ON TWO PROPERTIES ESSENTIALLY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND THESE OFTEN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, LIKE, YOU'LL SEE, I'VE JUST A NORMAL FAMILY HOUSE NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, 40 HOUSES. LIKE IT'S A VERY OBVIOUS VISUAL DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE WHAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED HERE AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS IS NOT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN HIGH DENSITY AREAS. WE APPRECIATE AND LOVE OUR GREEN SPACES AND OUR YARD. UM, I MEAN, EQUITY IS, IS, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT A NUMBER OF, OF COMMISSIONERS, IF NOT ALL COMMISSIONERS OR ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ON THIS COMMISSION, UM, COULD YOU SPEAK TO AT ALL, HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED IN THE, IN THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN THERE AND, UM, HOW YOU THINK DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE GOING INTO THAT? UM, HOW, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN THERE? I DID LIVE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. I'M LIVING HERE IN STONE GATE. UM, I MEAN, YEAH, JUST THE CHANGES ARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY BUY A PLOT OF LAND OR THEY BUY A HOUSE, UM, BECAUSE THEY JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, EXTREME AMOUNTS OF CASH TO BUY THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, REGULAR FAMILIES CAN'T, AND THEN THEY USE WHATEVER LAND THEY CAN TO BUILD AS MANY HOUSES THAT THEY CAN TO GET AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE CHARACTER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, IS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH YARDS AND, YOU KNOW, UM, BACKYARD COOKOUTS AND STUFF, UM, NOT, YOU KNOW, TWO TO THREE FLOOR DUPLEXES THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, A 10 BY 10 SQUARE PLOT OF LAND BEHIND IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CALL A BACKYARD. UM, ALL RIGHT, GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SHARP. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS IN THIS ROUND? UM, ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE A MOTION? SURE. I UNDERSTAND. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON MUTE, MOVE STAFF APPROVAL, STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I HAVE A SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HANDFUL. MR. ANDERSON, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I WOULD. I WOULDN'T, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AND I'M GLAD THIS DUNCA WAS BROUGHT UP. I'VE BEEN IN HER HOME A COUPLE OF TIMES TALKING ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING AROUND HERE AND IN AUSTIN, BUT, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ACTUALLY REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF MY GRANDPARENTS' NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE IT WAS KIND OF THIS EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING INVENTORY. AND THEN AS MOST OF THE PARCELS WERE FILLED IN AND THERE WERE JUST A FEW REMAINING PARCELS, BUT YET THE POPULATION, SO GOING UP A NEED FOR HOUSING WAS GOING UP. THERE WERE LITTLE POCKETS LIKE THIS, WHERE THEY BUILT MUCH MORE DENSELY. AND MY GRANDPARENTS GOT INTO THEIR MID SEVENTIES AND THEY SOLD THEIR HOUSE AND THEY MOVED 300 FEET AWAY INTO ONE OF THESE NEW HOMES THAT JUST GOT BUILT, WHERE THEY LIVED THE REST OF THEIR LIFE, ACTUALLY. SO THEY MOVED TO AUSTIN AND, UM, HABITAT RIGHT NOW HAS A COUPLE OF PARCELS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THE , I MEAN, IT'S SOMEWHAT SUBURBAN AND CHARACTER AND EVERY SINGLE LOT HAS TO BE A LOT, AND IT HAS TO HAVE A DRIVEWAY. WHEREAS THE SF SIX, IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT MORE CREATIVITY. IT ALLOWS YOU TO SAY THESE TREES RIGHT HERE ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. WE DON'T WANT TO TUCK THESE DOWN. SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD AROUND THESE TREES AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BUILD OVER HERE, A DRIVEWAY BACK HERE THAT SERVES THE HOMES IN A DIFFERENT WAY. YOU CAN HAVE A MORE WALKABLE COMMUNITY ALLOWS FOR SMALLER LOT SIZES. IT ALLOWS FOR MORE HOMES FOR ACRE. TAKE REAL. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF LESS. IT'S JUST A BUNCH OF GREEDY DEVELOPERS. UM, AS WE CAN GET THE COSTS DOWN FOR HOUSING COSTS DOWN ACROSS THE BOARD FOR HOUSING AND GETTING RID OF ALL THE BARRIERS WE'VE PUT IN PLACE TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS WE BUILD AND REQUIRE THEM TO BE LESS EFFICIENT, ADD ZONING. UM, WE CAN SEE THE COST OF THE HOUSING GO DOWN. WELL, WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN DO ENOUGH OF THAT, WHERE EVERYONE ELSE WANTS TO HAVE A HOME IN THESE AREAS CAN LIVE HERE. WE'LL SEE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THAT RIGHT DIRECTION. SO I COULD JUST SUPPORT THIS. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR THAT WANT TO SPEAK? MAKE SURE YOU'RE HONEST. GUIDO [01:05:01] ACTUALLY NEUTRAL. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH A LOT OF COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S POINTS. UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS NOT A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPLICATIONS THERE ON THE IMPACTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE DIFFERENT. UM, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOESN'T FIND LARGE, UH, SPEAK OUT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THERE'S GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE AND THEN YOU MIGHT HAVE A FEW NUMBERS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD DOUBT IT, UM, THAT VARIES NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF, OF THE MARKET RATE PRICES THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT AND THE FACT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A LOT OF THESE CASES, ISN'T TRULY AFFORDABLE TO LOW INCOME PEOPLE. UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. UM, I DO, I DO APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO BE CREATIVE WITH AND THAT WE NEED TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID BEFORE, I'M MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF BUILDING DENSELY ON GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT, DESTROYING EXISTING HOUSING TO DO SO. UM, AND THAT SAID, I, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE, SO, UM, I'M SPEAKING, LIKE I SAID, NEUTRALLY ON THIS AND JUST WANT TO REMIND US ALL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR THAT WANT TO SPEAK MR. SHAW? GO AHEAD. SO, UH, THIS LOT, UM, PRESENTS UNIQUE CHALLENGES, UM, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CREEK, THEIR FLOOD PLAIN, AND I THINK IT DOES, UH, OFFER A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, BUILD MORE UNITS OR UNITS AND AVOID SOME OF THE TREE, UM, REMOVAL OF TREES THAT WE SAW THAT THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT. BUT, UM, IN GENERAL, IN THESE, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT IN EAST AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK COUNCIL, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT UP ZONING, A LOT OF THESE S THREE PROPERTIES. AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE, AND I THINK I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EACH ONE KIND OF CASE BY CASE, BUT THIS ONE IS A CASE WHERE I COULD SUPPORT THE, UM, THE ZONING FROM A, TO SF SIX, UH, GIVEN THE FEATURES OF THESE LOTS. SO, UM, ANYWAY, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ITEM, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS OPPOSED OR NEUTRAL WANT TO SPEAK ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR THAT WANT TO SPEAK? I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY A WORD. UM, THE, UH, YEAH, WE ARE GOING TO SEE, AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THESE CASES COMING UP, UM, GO IN AS SENSORY DEATHS OF SIX AND ARREST OF FIVE AND THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE LOTS IN QUESTION, UM, IT'S CLEAR THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS YOU HAVE A LARGE LOTS, UH, FREQUENTLY WITH, UM, LITTLE FRONTAGE, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PLOTTED OUT. AND, UM, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S GREENFIELDS. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING REPLACED. AND I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THOSE CASES DIFFERENTLY. UM, AND, UH, I MEAN, THESE ARE OUR LOTS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, FOR BETTER, FOR WORSE, THE MARKET THINGS HAVE BEEN INEFFICIENTLY USED. AND WHEN A LOT OF TIMES, I THINK WHEN WE DRILL DOWN INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT'S, IT COMES DOWN TO REALLY KIND OF AESTHETIC PREFERENCE. AND, UM, THAT I DON'T THINK THIS CASE IS, IS REALLY ABOUT THE HISTORY OF EAST AUSTIN. IT'S ABOUT THE HISTORY OF A VERY LARGE LOT THAT WAS NOT EASILY DEVELOPED BEFORE, BUT WAS DEVELOPABLE WITH A REZONING AND A, SO THAT'S WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND GENTRIFICATION. UM, THIS ISN'T ONE OF THOSE CASES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIVING IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO BE THE 10TH BIGGEST CITY IN AMERICA. AND I, I THINK THAT FOLKS ARE MAYBE FEELING A, A LEVEL OF ENTITLEMENT TO CONTROL WHAT IS BUILT ON, ON PROPERTIES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S HIGHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, OR EVEN MULTIFAMILY. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A SLIGHTLY LARGER NUMBER OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES BUILT IN A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION THAN, THAN IS ALLOWED CURRENTLY. AND, UM, WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE 10TH BIGGEST CITY IN AMERICA, YOU KNOW, 10 MINUTES OUT OF DOWNTOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL OF AESTHETIC CONTROL YOU CAN HAVE OVER YOUR NEIGHBOR'S LOTS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GOING TO BE SACRIFICED A BIT. SO, UM, THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. UM, [01:10:01] AT THAT POINT WE'VE HAD OUR, UH, WELL, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OPPOSED OR NEUTRAL, UM, WE STILL HAVE SLOTS LEFT FOR THOSE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE THEN ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO PASS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ITEMS B3, AND BEFORE, UH, PLEASE SHOW YOUR GREEN ITEM, ALL OPPOSED ALL, UH, ABSTAINING. OKAY. SO I HAVE FOUR, SEVEN, 10, 11. SO THAT WAY IS TEN ONE. SORRY. DO I HEAR MR. RIVERA IN THE BACKGROUND TELLING I DID SOMETHING WRONG? IS THERE A LINE, OH, 10 ZERO ONE. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT, I'M [Items B5 & B6] MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT CASE. UM, WE ARE GONNA TAKE UP ITEMS FIVE AND SIX TOGETHER. THAT IS 61 21, FM NINE 69 WALNUT CREEK WATERSHED. UM, THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AS WELL AS A, UM, UH, FROM INDUSTRY TO MIXED LAND USE. AND THEN, UH, FROM CSMP TO LIGHT INDUSTRY CON P AND C LIGHT INDUSTRY CEO, MP TWO, UH, OR LIMITED INDUSTRY RATHER TO A COMMERCIAL SERVICES MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. UM, DO WE HAVE THE STAFF ON THE LINE TO PRESENT COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS HEATHER CHAPMAN OF PLANNING AND ZONING. I'M GONNA DO THE ZONING CASE FIRST, UH, PEOPLE IN 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE SEVEN IT'S ITEM B6. UM, THIS WAS APPROVED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT HAD TO BE CANCELED OR VOIDED FOR TECHNICAL REASONS. THIS CASE IS A FIGHT THAT IS 9.5 ACRES AGAIN, REQUESTING, GOING FROM C S M P AND L I C O N P TWO C S N U N P. STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE REQUEST. THE PROPERTY IS NEW, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ONE 83 AND NINE 69 IMMEDIATELY AT THE CORNER OF NINE 69. AND ONE 83 IS AN UNDEVELOPED PARCEL. THAT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEVELOPED WITH A QUICK TRIP CONVENIENCE STORE. THE PROPERTY IS MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED, EXCEPT FOR RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. THERE IS AN EXISTING, UM, METAL FABRICATION SHOPPER I BELIEVE IS TO USE THE CONDITIONAL IT RELAYS 2000 UNITS. UH, THERE ARE A CONVENIENT STORE TO THE EAST NORTH CROSS MINE, 69. IT'S ALSO CFMU, UCO AND P WITH A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AND THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT IS PRETTY MUCH VACANT. THERE ARE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH EAST OF THE TRACKS IS A W L O C O M P PARCEL LIMITS. SOME CONDITIONS, UH, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES FURTHER EAST IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ZONED SF TO NP. SOUTH IS UNDEVELOPED LAND ZONED TO CDSMP FURTHER SOUTH IS THE MIDDLE OF THE CAMPUS, WHICH YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING C S M U M P. THEY INTEND TO DEVELOP APPROXIMATELY 250 TO 300 MULTIFAMILY UNITS. IT'S PROPOSED TO BE MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY CANNOT REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON A SITE, WE ARE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, IT WILL PROVIDE AN ORDERLY RELATIONSHIP AMONG LAND USES FROM THE HIGHWAY AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, TOWARD THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST. AND IT WILL PROVIDE A VARIETY OF HOUSING PIPES IN THE AREA. AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO RACHEL TO DISCUSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE AGENT AVAILABLE TO DISCUSS THE CASE, EVEN COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RACHEL TUPPER WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. UM, THIS IS FOR ITEM CASE NUMBER NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 5.01 MLK RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ONE IS LOCATED AT SIX ONE TWO ONE FM NINE 69 ROAD. THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP REQUEST IS FROM INDUSTRY TO MIXED USE FOR 1.78 ACRES. UH, THE LONG RANGE PLANNING STAFF SUPPORTS THIS FUN CHANGE BECAUSE IT WOULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING ALONG EAST MLK, FM NINE 69, WHICH IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, UM, AND A TRANSIT CORRIDOR. THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM TOOK A NEUTRAL POSITION ON THIS CASE, UH, WITH THEIR POSITION LETTER INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP AND HEATHER AND I WILL BE AROUND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. [01:15:01] AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE LINE JUST BECAUSE ITEM IF NECESSARY. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. WELL, I'LL GIVE IT MOST OF IT BACK. THIS IS RICHARD SETTLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT ON THE CASE, AND WE'LL JUST ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEIR PRESENTATION. THE BOTTOM LINE AT THIS INTERSECTION OF THESE HIGHWAYS IS WE'RE TRYING TO BRING BOTH THE ZONING AND THE FLUM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE FLUM, UH, PRESCRIBES FOR THIS AND THAT IS MIXED USE TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING AND WE'RE TAKING A WELDING SHOP AND BRINGING, BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE PHLEGM TO ALLOW MIXED USE AND HOUSING. AND WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE FERRIS CLEMENTS, UM, SIGN UP FOR THE ITEM? YEAH, SOMEONE'S HERE. HE'D GO AHEAD AND DO THREE MINUTES AND HE'LL GIVE HIS THREE MINUTES BACK TO, OH, WELL, OKAY. WELL, THE APPLICANT IS CLOSED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, COULD WE MOVE ON KRISHNA SCHEIDER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR ALL IN FAVOR. BOOM ANANYMOUS OKAY. UM, DO I HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? GO AHEAD. SO I SAID , IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, Y'ALL HAD INITIALLY INDICATED YOU WEREN'T IN THEATER, DIDN'T DO CREATE AFFORDABLE, OR I WORK THIS HOUSING LEVEL AFFORDABILITY ON THIS SITE AND MY GIRLFRIEND, MY MOM. OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT. THE, THE, UH, HIS GOAL WAS TO BUILD WHAT THEY CALL WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS NOT INCOME RESTRICTED, BUT IS DESIGNED AND BUILT IN SUCH A WAY TO, UH, BRING IT AND MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE. UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TERM OF ART AND IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWABLE BY STATE LAW. UH, IT WAS, IT WAS AN ASPIRATION THAT WAS BRASS AND THAT IS STILL THE ASPIRATION. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN THAT'S SO YOU CAN CUT OUT A LITTLE BIT THERE AT THE END. UM, IT SAYS ASPIRATION, UH, THE INCOME LEVELS. THAT'S WHAT I, YES, UH, THE, THE, THE GOAL TO DO WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ASPIRATIONAL, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S THE ZONING, OUR, OUR, OUR POSITION IS THAT THE ZONING STAGE WHERE WE'RE JUST BEING WE'RE ASKED TO, UH, ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO, UH, TO ACTUALLY PLAN AND COMMIT TO IT. I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WOULD BE, HAVE Y'ALL CONSIDERED INCUMBENTS WITHIN HOUSING. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ARE CONSIDERED ON BOARD? LOOK INTO THAT? I'M SORRY. IT WAS, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SURE. I'M SORRY, IF YOU LOOK AT, I'M NOT HERE, BUT I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION WAS, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING OR ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER IT IN THE FUTURE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE LOOKED INTO? UM, NO. AT THIS TIME, WE'RE, WE'RE UNABLE TO COMMIT TO INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. ARE, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS OF THE QUESTIONS OR WANT TO SPEAK DURING THE ROUND ROBIN ROUND? NOT SEEING ANY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ITEMS BE FIVE AND BE SIX. I HAVE A SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAW. UM, I WISH WE HAD A CODE THAT HAD A, A BONUS AVAILABLE AND IN EVERY, UH, IN EVERY ZONE SO THAT WE COULD, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF A ZONE THAT THEY COULD ONLY DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IF THEY TOOK THE BONUS. UM, BUT WE DON'T, IT'S STUCK IN COURT. SO, UM, UNTIL THEN, UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. SO IS THERE [01:20:01] ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE MOTION PROPOSED COMMISSIONERS? I'LL JUST SEE AND GO, AND IT GOT HER STANDING FROM THE STATES. SO MY PERSPECTIVE, MY OPINION, I AGREE THAT IT COULD BE RESOLVED. I CAN, EVEN IF THE APPLICANT HAD BEEN CLEARED IN SAN GOOD, THEY'RE GOING TO YOUR MARKET HOUSING. THAT'S ONE THING, WHAT I'M HEARING HERE IS, IS THE SOFT COMMITMENT TO WORKFORCE HOUSING IN BARCODES. HOUSING DOES HAVE A LEVEL OF 80% IT'S DEFINED IN OTHER PLACES AND IT'S NOT IN AUSTIN, BUT IT SAID THAT I THINK MY CONCERN IS I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEARING THIS INVENTION, BUT THERE IS NO SORT OF COMMITMENT TO THE INTENTION, WHICH AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO DO MARKETING AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THAT'S FINE. MY CONCERN HERE IS I FEEL LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A VERY DIFFERENT CONCEPTION OF THE CASE. I DO FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION. WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND PERMITTED, AND WHAT IS IT, ARGUMENT VERSUS A SOFT MOVEMENT AT THIS MOMENT. AND I THINK JUST HEARING THAT CONFUSION AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE THE FULL INFORMATION FOR THIS SPACE. LIKE YOUR COMMISSIONERS ARE ANY OTHER, ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SURE. SHAY, GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IS THAT, IS IT STILL TOO QUIET? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU'RE A LITTLE QUIET, BUT WE CAN HEAR IT. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO I MEAN, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING PATTERNS OVER THERE AND SEE US ALL AROUND IT. AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE WE SAW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, I MEAN, IT WANTS SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE THERE NOW, AS FAR AS FOR THE ABILITY TO DO ANY TYPE OF AFFORDABILITY. YES. LIKE, UM, UH, CHAIR, UH, KENNY HAD SAID THAT STUCK IN COURT, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A WELDING SHOP THERE. THE INTENT IS TO BRING IT BACK IN COMPLIANT, YOU KNOW, TO BEING COMPLIANT WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT. SO THE OPPORTUNITY COULD STILL BE THERE AS THESE M U I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS WE START DISCUSSING CODE, I MEAN, WE COULD END UP WITH THE OPPORTUNITY THAT GIVES A TOOL TO DO SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH SOME TYPE OF DENSITY BONUS. RIGHT. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST WE PUT OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR, GIVING THE CSM YOU THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WHAT THE NEW CODE, UM, GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP RIGHT AWAY JUST YET. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHO KNOWS, I MEAN, WE, WE COULD HAVE A CODE HERE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, RIGHT MONTHS. SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT. I THINK THERE'S, IT GIVES THE POTENTIAL. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LET'S JUST SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I'M NOT SEEING ANY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEMS BE FIVE AND BE SIX. OKAY. THAT IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10. ALL RIGHT. AND ABSTAINING. SORRY. DID THAT ORDER ORDER TWO AND NONE OF POST 10 ZERO TWO IS HOW YOU SAY THAT? UM, ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON FROM ITEMS B FIVE AND B SIX, TWO [Items B7 & B8] ITEMS B SEVEN AND B EIGHT. THIS IS NINE 14 SHADY LANE. UM, WE HAVE A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT TO GO FROM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TO HIGHER DENSITY, A SINGLE FAMILY ON TRACK ONE AND NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TWO ON TRACK TWO, UH, AND THAT THE CORRESPONDING ZONING THERE IS WE'RE GOING FROM SF THREE TO SF SIX ON TRACT ONE, AND, UM, SF THREE TO LRM YOU N P AS TRACK TWO. UM, WE HAVE STAFF ON THE LINE. YEAH, THIS IS MAUREEN MEREDITH. UM, I THINK THE NUMBER B ITEM NUMBER B SEVEN IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA TWO ZERO ONE NINE ZERO ZERO ONE 6.01 SHADY LANE MIXED USE IT'S IN DISTRICT THREE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT NINE ONE FOUR SHADY LANE WITHIN THE GO VOLLEY JOHNSON TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM WATER AND SINGLE FAMILY TO HIGHER DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY ON TRACT ONE AND NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED JUICE ON TRACK TWO. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE RECEIVED AS A RATE BACKUP, A LETTER AND AGREEMENT FROM GO VOLLEY JOHNSON, TERRACE, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM, WHICH WAS SUPPORTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. HEATHER CHASEN. WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS HEATHER CHAFFIN ON THE ZONING CASE B EIGHT. THE CASE NUMBER IS C 14 2019 ZERO ZERO NINE EIGHT. THE ZONING REQUEST IS TO GO FROM S AND P TO SF SIX N P ON TRACK, THE ONE AND L O R N U AND P ON TRACK TWO AS A MEN AS AMENDED THE SITE AREAS FOR TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO ARE KIND OF INFLUX AT THIS POINT. UM, OKAY. WHEN THE ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS MADE, THE TOTAL SITE IS 4.134 ACRES [01:25:01] WITH TRACK ONE BEING 1.7, TWO ACRES AND TYPE TWO, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL TRACK BEING 2.4, ONE ACRES. AS MAUREEN MENTIONED, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT ON COMING UP WITH A COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. AND ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT AGREEMENT IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, THAT AREA HAS INCREASED AND THE COMMERCIAL PORTION ISN'T DECREASED STAFF SUPPORTS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. BUT STOP ALSO IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMPROMISE THAT FROM WHAT WE HEARD FROM BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PARTIES COURT, THAT AGREEMENT. SO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE AGREEMENT WHICH WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY, IT'S A UPLOADED ON THE WEBSITE, COMPROMISE AGREEMENT, DATED SIX 22, BETWEEN THE CONTACT TEAM AND THE PROPERTY OWNER. THEY HAVE DIVIDED THE PROPERTY INTO KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT AREAS. SO, UM, THEY HAVE, THERE ARE AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR A SMALLER AREA ALONG SHADY LANE, AND THEN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS THAT GO FURTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT THEY'VE AGREED UPON, BUT SOME OF THE THINGS RELATE TO, UM, SCREENING AND SHADING BETWEEN THE LRM NEW PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S AROUND ASKING FOR THAT. HE PUT TALL FENCE VEGETATED BUFFER, SOME OF THE PROHIBITED USES SO REQUESTING MOST SERVICE STATION MAY 24 HOUR BUSINESSES IN MORE CONVENIENT. UH, YOU'VE BEEN PROHIBITED, NO BIG BOX, WHICH IS A GENERAL RETAIL GENERAL. AND AGAIN, STOP SUPPORT THOSE ITEMS AS MUCH AS THEY CAN BE INCORPORATED TO BE CODE. YEAH, I'M ALSO ON TRACK TOO, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SF SIX OR SO THE NEXT PERSON IN THE RIGHT BEHIND THE LRM NEW PERSON THAT I'VE BEEN CORE, THE EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE PENCIL CREEK BUFFER, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE SENTENCES THAT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE REVIEWED BY OUR DRAINAGE ENGINEERING STAFF AND ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF. AND ALSO OUR LAW DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED WITH HAS A LOT OF FLOODPLAIN AND, UM, TEACHERS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH IT BY PLAN WITH THE ENGINEERING REVIEW AT BURNING STAGE ARE NOT REQUIRED HAVE THAT KIND OF FULL ENGINEERING REVIEW. THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THE FURTHEST, INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRACK. ANOTHER TRACK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUPPORTING SFX WITH THE CONDITION WHERE IT ADHERES TO ASSET THREE DENSITY AND PIPE DEVELOPMENT, STANDARD RADIO, REQUESTING THAT THERE WAS NO ROADWAY OR BRIDGE OVER THE CREEK BETWEEN TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO BETWEEN THE TWO SFX PARCEL. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BE STAFFED WITH YOU. IT'S A TALL FENCE, 10 FOOT CREEK BUFFER, A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, AND THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS IT UP. SO THAT'S THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS RECENTLY DISCUSSED BETWEEN THESE PARTIES. THEY'RE BACK TO THE OVERALL PROJECT. THE PROPERTY IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF SHADY, ABOUT 500 FEET SOUTH OF AIRPORT BOULEVARD IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF E ALLEN ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS P M P NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR OF THE TRACK. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES EXCEPT THREE MP. UM, AND THE MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO DOWN AT THE THREE MP I WRONG SHADY LANE. THERE ARE THREE PROPERTIES THAT ALSO GRN NEW PROPERTIES, UM, GRM YEAR AND SHARE, AND P PROPERTIES ARE ALONG THE STRETCH THAT GOES FROM SHADY LANE TOWARDS THE AIRPORT BOULEVARD, SOMEBODY WHOSE PROPERTIES, UH, ART STUDIO OFFICES, AND VARIOUS USES. AS I MENTIONED, THERE, THERE IS A LOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. THERE'S A SECTION OF BOGGY CREEK LIMITS ACCESS [01:30:03] TO CONNECTING THE FIGHT THERE'S ACCESS FROM SHADY LANE AND ALSO POSSIBLY ACCESS FROM MANTLE AVENUE. UM, THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, A PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN VERSION THAT EXTENDS ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PARTS OF MENTAL AVENUE. UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED AND ENGINEERED UPON THE SITE PLAN. THERE IS CURRENTLY ABOUT PETITION REQUESTS ON THIS PROPERTY. WE AGREEMENT LETTER, THE COMPROMISE LETTER IS AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD PROCEED. THE PETITION. UH, NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID, IF THOSE CONDITIONS ARE INCORPORATED, THEN THE VALID PETITION WOULD BE WRONG. THE APP IS SUPPORTING THE REQUEST PRETTY MUCH IN, IN EITHER SCENARIO. WE BELIEVE THAT HAVING, HAVING LRN U LONG IS APPROPRIATE, IT ALLOWS EITHER COMMERCIAL OR A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL AIRPORT BOULEVARD INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, SIMILAR TO THE HOTLINE PROPERTY IT'S PROBABLY HAS TO BE NORTH OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, BUT ALSO HAS A LOT OF, UM, UTILITY EASEMENTS. UM, ONE OF THE EXHIBITS, WELL, SAME AS PROPERTY. SO WE BELIEVE ABOUT CLUSTERS DEVELOPMENT IS THE OPPOSITE WHERE THE AGENT IS AVAILABLE AND THEN ALSO SOME NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, ALICE GLASGOW, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE TO PRESENT THE APPLICANT'S CASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR. ALICE GLASGOW. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. AND, UM, IF I CAN JUST ASK, UH, FOR YOU, AND THEN I HAVE, UH, FIVE SPEAKERS OPPOSED, UM, UH, WE HEARD SOME DETAILS ABOUT A, UM, AN AGREEMENT, UM, AND HOW THAT RELATES TO A VALID PETITION OR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UM, SO IF I CAN JUST ASK ALL THE SPEAKERS TO BE KIND OF CLEAR ON WHERE THEY STAND ON THAT AND ON THAT AGREEMENT AND TO WHAT DEGREE THE AGREEMENT IS IS, UH, WHAT STAGE THAT IS IN AS IT HEADS, UM, FROM US TO POTENTIALLY TO COUNCIL. SO GO AHEAD, MS. CLASSICAL, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. WELL, THANK YOU CHAIR. I, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CASE FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS. WE FILED THIS CASE, BUT I NEED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, ALICE GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE APPLICANTS. SO THE, UM, THE CASES WERE FILED JULY OF 2019. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UM, CONCEPT TEAM AND THE NEIGHBORS, UH, SINCE THEN, AND, UM, DISPATCH COVID-19. WE MANAGED TO HAVE A MEETING IN ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD AND THEN CAME THE SOCIAL DISTANCE AND COVERED THAT FACEBOOK, BUT MANAGED TO HAVE A TWO HOUR CONVERSATION AND COME UP WITH SOME OF THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE LETTER THAT HAD THE CHEF AND JUST READ TO YOU. THAT IS A COMPROMISE AGREEMENT THAT WE ACCEPTED WAS THE LAST CALL. IF YOU WANT TO INSERT YOUR PRESENTATION, I'LL GIVE YOU A VERBAL CUE WHEN WE'VE REACHED THE SLIDE. IF YOU COULD JUST NAME EACH SLIDE AS YOU GO, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I CAN SEE YOU TOO. I HAVE A TELEVISION, LIKE I CAN WATCH YOU TOO. THERE'S THERE'S A BIT OF A DELAY ON THAT. SO WE ARE ON THE SLIDE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE MAP WITH THE LOTS, THE SITE CONSTRAINTS ARE THIS, THIS MAP IS WONDERFUL. UM, THE STAFF PUT IT TOGETHER AND IT SHOWS YOU THAT THE PROPERTY IT IS, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS IN BOGGY CREEK, OR PART OF OUR PROPERTY IS PART OF BOGGY CREEK. THE PROPERTY, THE TWO TRACKS, THE TRACK THAT IS CLOSEST TO MANTLE AVENUE AND MELBOURNE LANE IS, UM, THAT IS TRAPPED ONE THAT'S THE SFX TRACKS OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SUPPORTED WITH CONDITIONS. AND, UH, THAT TRACT IS BISECTED BY A TRIBUTARY TO BOGGY CREEK THAT DIVIDES THE TWO TRACKS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT MAP. YEAH. UM, THIS IS A GOOD BATTERY TO SHOW THE SITE HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS AND AN ACCESS EASEMENT. UM, PUBLIC WORKS USES THE BRIBERY ON OUR SITE TO ACCESS BOGGY CREEK AND CLEAN IT UP. SO IT SERVES AS AN ACCESS FOR PUBLIC WORKS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE'RE WAITING ON THE NEXT SLIDE. I KNOW THERE'S A DELAY. YEAH, WE'RE THERE. GO AHEAD. NO, THE NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SLIDE IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. WE'RE THERE AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A, [01:35:01] AN OKAY. WHEN WE'RE THERE, IF YOU COULD. YEAH. CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN. WERE THERE, GO AHEAD. THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL FIVE ON THE SHOWS, THE TRACK THAT HAD THE SHOTGUN WAS DESCRIBING TRACK. ONE IS THE TRACKS TO THE WEST, AND THAT TRACKED WHILE EAD HAS APPROXIMATELY 1.72 ACRES. THE MAJORITY OF THE PRACTICE IS IN BOGGY CREEK AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER. WHO'S BEEN PART OF OUR TEAM FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS HAS HELPED OBVIOUSLY GUIDE THE DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE AND, UM, CREATE A PLAN THAT, UM, CONCEPTUALLY, UM, ADHERES TO SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS WE'LL HAVE ON THE SITE. SO TRUCK ONE, ONE IT'S 1.7, TWO ACRES CANNOT BE SUBDIVIDED BECAUSE THE TRACK DOES NOT HAVE ANY MUCH OF A FRONTAGE ON A PUBLIC ROAD WHERE YOU COULD HAVE FLAT LOTS. SO AS YOU SAW THE SLIDE CONSTRAINTS MAP, AND ON THIS ONE, WE CAN SIT THREE DUPLEX BUILDINGS. WHEREAS OBVIOUSLY I SAID, THREE ALLOWS YOU TO SPEAK IN SUBDIVIDE, BUT THERE'S YOU CAN'T LEGALLY SUBDIVIDE AND COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE, THE FRONTAGE TO ACTUALLY HAVE LOTS. SO HAVING S OF SIX AS ONE TRACT MAKE IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE, UM, AT LEAST THREE DUPLEX BUILDINGS FOR A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE TRAPS TO AID. THE TRUST HAS BEEN NUMBERED AS A COMPROMISE WITH THE NEIGHBORS. SO HENCE THE NUMBERING TRUCK TO A WILL BE SF SIX. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A TRACK THAT IS DIVIDED BY THE TRIBUTARY TO BOGGY CREEK. YOU SAW EARLIER. AND, UM, SO THIS TRACK HAS A DETENTION POND IN A SMALL BUILDING THAT WILL BE A POSSIBLY THREE STORIES FOR A FEW UNITS THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON THAT, UM, BUILDING AND THEN A TRUCK TO BE USED. THE LRM YOUTHS AGAIN, SMALL BUILDING WITHOUT SOME PARKING, THE M M U OVERLAY ALLOWS US TO WALK AROUND SOME TREES AS HIGH HAS SEVERAL TREES, UM, TO THE SOUTH. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DESIGN WALK AROUND. MY CLIENTS ARE NOT DEVELOPERS. THEY ARE URBAN FARMERS. THIS IS AN URBAN FARM. THEY WOULD LIKE TO FIND A JOINT VENTURE PARTNER TO HELP THEM DEVELOP THE SIDE. SO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS PUT TOGETHER. THAT IS A CONCEPT AND HAVE, AND THE CONDITIONS THE NEIGHBORS I'VE WORKED WITH IS TO HELP THEM, UM, MAKE THE PROJECT, UM, ACCEPTABLE TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORS OF THE ZONING LADDER. SO I'LL GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. WERE THERE THE SETBACKS PLAN? YES. SO THE SETBACKS THAT PLANNED OUT SHOWS YOU ALL THE SETBACKS, THE NEIGHBORS WANTED TO AN IDEA OF WHAT SAID THAT'S APPLY SO THEY COULD ENGAGE MORE ADEQUATELY IN THE DISCUSSION. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE NORTH OF US, WE HAVE A COMPATIBILITY SETBACK, UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE ZONING SETBACKS. WE HAVE THE CREEK BUFFER SETBACKS. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH ALL THOSE CONDITIONS, YOU DON'T, YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE NEXT SITE AREA LEFT FOR DEVELOPMENT AND OUT WITHOUT THIS WAS A GOOD GRAPHIC TO SHOW WITHOUT ANYTHING ON IT, JUST WHERE THE LIMITATIONS ARE AND WHAT YOUR NET SIDE IT IS TO WORK WITH. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. WERE THERE, THIS IS A COMPROMISED MAP THAT SHOWS YOU THE, THE TRACKS AND RIGHT ON TOP, YOU'LL SEE THE COLOR CODING HELPS YOU SEE THE, UH, THE YELLOW IS THE SF SIX, WHICH IS TRACKED ONE. THE GREEN IS, UM, UH, TRACKED TO A SF SIX EMPTY. AND, UH, THE PURPLE IS, UM, TRACK TWO B, WHICH IS LLM UNP. AND THAT'S THE COMPROMISE ZONING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, SINCE WITH THIS WEEK. SO THAT'S, THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THAT, BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY, MS. KLASKO, UH, YOUR TIME TECHNICALLY EXPIRED, BUT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, WE'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER MINUTE HERE. OKAY. WE'RE ON THE SLIDE. GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO THIS SLIDE JUST SIMPLY SHOWS YOU WHAT EXISTING ZONING IS ON TRACK ONE AS A THREE, WHILE YOU, IF YOU DO THE MATH AND SUBDIVIDES THE SITE AREA WITH THE MINIMUM SIDE AREA FOR YOUR FIELD, 13 MILES, BUT PHYSICALLY CANNOT HAVE THOSE LOTS OR 10 DUPLEX, LOTS, WHICH IS NOT PHYSICAL. THE REALITY IS THE THREE DUPLEX BUILDINGS WITH A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS ARE TRAPPED TO ITSELF, HAS A, AS IT'S SHOWING US THE SF SIX AND THE LMU, WE END UP YIELDING [01:40:01] A TOTAL OF 16 TO 24 POSSIBLE UNITS WITHOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND IF YOU WENT TO SUBDIVIDE AGAIN, YOU END UP WITH MAYBE JUST A TOTAL LOSS OF 10, 10 UNITS OF FIVE, LOTS TIMES TWO. SO I'LL CONCLUDE THERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. CLASSICO, PLEASE STAY ON THE LINE AFTER THE SPEAKERS FOR QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS. UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SIGNED UP FOR, I DO HAVE FIVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION, UM, SEND YOUNG CHUNG EUROPE FIRST. AND IF I CAN ASK ALL THE FOLKS IN OPPOSITION TO CLARIFY, UM, THEIR PHYSICIAN VIS-A-VIS THIS, THIS COMPROMISED POSITION, AND IF, UH, YOUR PO'S THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, ET CETERA, GO AHEAD AND SEND YOUNG. SO YOUNG CHUNG, DO WE HAVE ON THE LINE? OKAY, GO AHEAD, RACHEL. GREAT. HOLD ON. UH, RACHEL, UH, I'M WAITING. I HAVE SEVEN YOUNG CHUNG'S SIGNED UP AS THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION. HAS SHE? I DON'T THINK SHE'S JOINING THE CALL WITH HEALTH CARE. OKAY. UH, ARE YOU THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION? ARE YOU AN ORGANIZER OF, OF FOLKS HERE? YES, SHE AND I WERE BOTH ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. OKAY. I'M GOING TO USE A LITTLE DISCRETION HERE AND SLOT YOU IN AS THE MAIN OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. SO YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, MY NAME IS RACHEL BUCHHEIM AND I SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH, UH, RAIN LILY AND THE APPLICANT. AND I WORKED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS A NEIGHBOR REPRESENTING THE VALID PETITIONERS WITH THE CONTACT TEAM. AND RANDOMLY, I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A BIT OF HISTORICAL INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING THE REQUEST AND COMPROMISE THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR ABOUT 10 MONTHS REGARDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WHILE SOME ARE CURRENTLY SUPPORTING THE AGREEMENT. AND THAT MAY BE ENOUGH OF A MAJORITY TO, OR THAT MAY BE ENOUGH TO NOT HIT MAJORITY ON THE PETITION ANY LONGER. WE DO NOT HAVE CONSENSUS AMONG THE NEIGHBORS. WE HAVE ONLY REACHED SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LIVED WITH IN FEAR OF SOMETHING MORE AGGRESSIVE HAPPENING THE EAST SIDE AND GO VALLEY HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING AT RISK OF AN AT GREAT RISK OF WORSENING GENTRIFICATION. MANY OF THE HOMES IN OUR AREA WERE ZONED COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL WHILE BEING UTILIZED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THESE HOMES AND FAMILIES FOUGHT VERY HARD TO OBTAIN THEIR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. AND THIS IS STILL A FRESH MEMORY. THE NEIGHBORS DO NOT SUPPORT ZONING, PREFER TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND KEEP THE DEVELOPMENT FURTHER OUT OF THE INTERIOR NEIGHBORHOODS. WHILE THE ADDRESSES ON SHADY LANE, THE PROPERTY IS IN THE INTERIOR NEIGHBORHOOD, MOSTLY ALONG BOGGY CREEK AND INTO THE INTERIOR OF THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOME HOMES BEING UP ZONED, BUT USED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THE APPLICANT'S SHARE PROPERTY LINES WITH ALL RESIDENTIAL USAGE TO THEIR NORTH AND WEST ONLY SHARED LOT LINE EXEMPTION OF USAGE USAGE. OTHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS THE FORMER SCHOOL TO THEIR SELF. WE AS NEIGHBORS SEE PLENTY OF UNDER UTILIZED APPROPRIATELY ZONED LOCATIONS THAT CAN BETTER HANDLE THE IMPACT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T IN A FLOOD PLAIN, THAT DOESN'T HAVE ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND CITY EASEMENT COMPLICATIONS THAT CAN BETTER HANDLE PARKING TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE BROUGHT ON BY BRINGING MIXED USE ONTO AN ALREADY BUSY STREET WITH A DANGEROUS INTERSECTION NEARBY THE APPLICANTS. HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO OFFER A TON OF INFORMATION ON WHO WILL OWN, WHO WILL DEVELOP FOR WHAT USAGE OR BUSINESSES EXACTLY WILL COME FROM UP ZONING. IT'S GRANTED A LARGE PORTION OF THE FOUR ACRE PROPERTY. AS YOU HEARD FROM ALICE IS IN CREEK WITH THE MAJORITY ALSO IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN AND OR CONTAINING COMPLICATED CITIES, WHICH HEATHER TALKS ABOUT, PERHAPS THAT WAS MORE LIKE MAUREEN, WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION, WHAT IT COULD BE USED FOR, OR A GUARANTEE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES WE BELIEVE WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORS. NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN VERY HESITANT TO COMPROMISE. THE NEIGHBORS DO NOT WANT TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR COMMERCIAL LR OR UP ZONING OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. SOMETHING THEY FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY ONE HOUSE GOING DOWN AND TWO-PLUS GOING UP IN ITS PLACE. DENSITY SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING WITHOUT THE NEED FOR UPZONING FEELING. WE HAVE LOST MANY BATTLES IN AND OUTSIDE OF ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE UNDERSTAND IT COULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO COMPROMISE. IF THE CITY FEELS THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING MUST BE RECONSIDERED. A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEIGHBOR AND VOLUNTEER TIME HAS WENT INTO THIS COMPROMISE TO GO VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE CONTACT TEAM, THE NEIGHBORS, AND OR VALID PETITIONERS THAT COUNTLESS HOURS TRYING TO DO RIGHT BY OUR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS. WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE [01:45:01] FOR THEIR APPRECIATION AND DEDICATION TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, TO PRESERVE OUR COMMUNITY, GROW WITH INTENT AND DEDICATION TO THE ENVIRONMENT. WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALSO MAKE A CAREFUL DECISION WITH THE SAME DEDICATION TO EAST AUSTIN HISTORY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CONCERN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN A SENSITIVE AREA. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, DO I HAVE SALINE, UH, KLEINFELTER LEAP KLEINFELTER? IT SAYS I'M NO LONGER MUTED. YES. YEAH. I KNOW HER MUTED AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YES. HELLO. MY NAME IS FELIPE KLEINFELTER AND I HAVE LIVED 47 YEARS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND 37 YEARS AT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT LOCATION WHERE I ALSO HAVE MY PROFESSIONAL STUDIO AND MY WIFE'S. WE ARE HERE 24 SEVEN. WE KNOW GOLD VALLEY. WELL, AND WE HAVE RAISED OUR CHILDREN AND NOW OUR GRANDCHILDREN AND THE LOCAL SCHOOLS IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS, ALMOST 1000 APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN BUILT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THIS SITE. THE DENSITY IS ONLY INCREASING AND WORRIES US AS WELL. MORE COMMERCIALS ZONING IS NOT NEEDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. DSF THREE LOTS UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE FAST CHANGING AND BEING REPLACED WITH EASEMENT, THE EASEMENT DEVELOPMENTS WITH NO GOAL OTHER THAN TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS. THIS MENTALITY LEAVES NO DISCOURSE WITH NEIGHBORS OR NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THIS CASE HASN'T EXAMPLE, WE WERE THREATENED AT A PUBLIC MEETING WITH KENYAN CITY, WHICH IN AN EARLIER MEETING WE'D EXPRESSED TO THE APPLICANTS IS WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE DID NOT WANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS SMALL BRANCH, SMALL BRANCH OF BOGGY CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH THE PROPERTIES. THE LAST OF TWO NATURAL FEEDER CREEKS THAT SUPPLIED BOGGY CREEK AND IS VITAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WILDLIFE. THAT INCLUDES MANY ENDANGERED SPECIES, SUCH AS ALLIGATOR SNAPPING TURTLES, WILD WOOD DUCKS, AND BLUE HERONS. OTHER RESERVATIONS WE HAVE IS SEEING ONE OF THE LAST MASONARY HOMES BUILT FROM PROCEEDS FROM THE SURROUNDING GARDENS OF 1930S AND FORTIES DEMOLISHED. WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS VISITORS AT OUR HOME STUDIO OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT WHO VISITED BEFORE THEY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY TO ASK IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAFE. THIS SITE IS AN IMPORTANT EDGE TO OUR PEACEFUL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND UP ZONING. THE EDGES ONLY MOVES THE EDGES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THOUGH, WE HAVE AGREED TO THE COMPROMISE. IT WAS A BRUTAL PROCESS AND AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT TO INTERFACE WITH PAID CONSULTANTS. THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT HAPPY, BUT FELT WHEN THE SEE RECOMMENDED COMMERCIALS ZONING AGAINST THE VALID PETITIONERS WHO ARE AGAINST THIS ZONING, THAT WE WOULD BE FORCED TO COMPROMISE OR WE'D RISK SOMETHING WORSE, LIKE THE ORIGINAL REQUEST. SO WE COMPROMISED. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, DO I HAVE MEREDITH GARDNER MEREDITH GARDNER? YOU CAN MUTE BUTTON. YEP. THERE YOU ARE. OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS MEREDITH GARDNER. I'VE LIVED IN, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND I'VE SEEN MANY CHANGES IN THAT SHORT FOUR YEARS AS MORE AND MORE PROPERTIES ARE SOLD TRADES AND DOUBLED UP ON HOUSES. THE MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED AND ABOUT THE BEHIND ME, UM, IS COMMERCIAL HAVING MORE, UM, AND HAVING MORE ELLS OR OUR ZONING IS CONCERNING TO ME AT THE, YOU CAN'T TURN, YOU CAN'T TURN, HOLD ON. IF I CAN ASK EVERYONE WHO IS NOT CURRENTLY SPEAKING TO PUT THEMSELVES ON MUTE. AND, UM, YOU'RE ALSO GONNA WANT TO TURN YOUR TV DOWN IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING, BECAUSE THERE'S A DELAY. GO AHEAD, MS. GARDNER SURE THING. UM, SO AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED HERE, I CAN HEAR EVERYTHING ACROSS THE CREEK, FROM THE RAIN, FROM THE RAIN LILY PROPERTY, LIKE WHEN THE, AND THE RADIO IS ON AND THEY'RE LISTENING TO MPR. I CAN HEAR EVERY WORD WHEN, UM, WHEN THERE'S GATHERINGS ACROSS THE CREEK, I CAN HEAR EVERY WORD ON MY PROPERTY IF I'M OUT MOWING THE LAWN OR JUST ENJOYING MY YARD. SO SOUND TRAVELS REALLY WELL ACROSS THE CREEK. SO I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT WHAT WILL GO INTO THAT PROPERTY AND NOT HAVING A LOT OF DETAILS ON LIKE THE PLAN POSSIBLE BUSINESSES MAKES ME VERY NERVOUS ABOUT HOW THE INCREASED, UM, ACTIVITY AND RESIDENCES WILL, UM, ADD THE NOISE POLLUTION. UM, I WALK AND RUN AND BIKE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A BUNCH. I UTILIZE THE BRIDGE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND FIND THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE USE MEN SELL MORE OF IT AS A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA, THEN SPRINGDALE, UM, AND ADDING ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN THE THEORY [01:50:01] OF MAKES ME WORRIED ABOUT THE WALKABILITY AND SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS IT GOING TO BE COMPROMISED BY ADDING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT, UH, ADDITIONAL UNITS AND ADDITIONAL, UM, COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY? UM, I'VE SEEN MORE AND MORE CARS PARKED ON STREETS, ALSO MAKING IT HARD WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING, UM, DRIVEWAYS, UH, FOR TRAFFIC TO SEE YOU. AND IT VERY MUCH CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE VISIBILITY, UM, OF PEOPLE ENJOYING OUT ENJOYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THIS COMPROMISE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD COME TO IF A CHANGE HAS TO BE MADE. SO I DO SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE, BUT, AND IN FEAR OF SOMETHING WORSE HAPPENING, AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS WHO'VE VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO REPRESENT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS AND WORK ON A COMPROMISE FOR THIS. THANK YOU. UM, TIM MURPHY, OUR LAST SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION. ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. HI. YES, I'M HERE. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? OKAY. UH, HELLO. MY NAME IS TIM MURPHY. I ALSO SHARE A PROPERTY LINE ALONG BOGGY CREEK WITH THE APPLICANTS. UM, AND I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT, UM, HISTORICALLY AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF GO VALLEY AND JOHNSON TERRORISTS HAD FOUGHT FOR WELL OVER A DECADE TO HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES PROPERLY ZONED FROM, UM, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL BACK TO, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. AND NOW TO SEE THE, THE CONTINUED UP ZONING, OR I SHOULD SAY REAPPS ZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT THEY FOUGHT SO HARD TO HAVE ZONED APPROPRIATELY IS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE, UH, TO THE PEOPLE WHO'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GENERATIONS. UM, SO IT'S REALLY UPSETTING WHEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF ALREADY COMMERCIALLY ZONED AND UNDERUTILIZED PROPERTIES WITHIN, UH, LESS THAN HALF A MILE OF, OF THE RAYMOND LAKE PROPERTY, UM, THAT, THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY BEING UTILIZED, UH, AT A C MEETING MONTHS BACK, THE APPLICANT SPOKE ABOUT THEIR, UM, SAFETY FEARS OF, BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC ALONG, UM, SHADY LANE. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, HOW THEY THINK ABOUT ZONING, THAT IT'S JUST EVEN THE SHADY LANE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY TO COMMERCIAL, HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP AT ALL ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM THAT IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ARE ALREADY KIND OF A NIGHTMARE WITH, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF SHADY BOMB AND AIRPORT ALL COMING TOGETHER AND THE INCREASED DEVELOPMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT RIGHT THERE. UM, I, I DON'T SEE, UH, THIS COMMERCIAL ZONING DOING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY FAVORS. UM, THIS, THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE, THE SELLING OF AUSTIN TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER. UM, BUT AS THE OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, I AM VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO, UH, THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF NOT, UH, NOT HAVING SOMETHING WORSE COMING DOWN THE PIPE, THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE TAUGHT TO SEEK A COMPROMISE WITH THE APPLICANTS. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, MS. GLASGOW, DO YOU HAVE, UH, DO YOU WANT TO DO A REBUTTAL OR SHOULD WE GO STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS? YES. I'D LIKE TO SURE. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. COULD WE GO TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE? I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE THERE. DID WE HEAR THAT CITY HALL IVY? THERE WE GO. SLIDE NUMBER TWO. THAT IS THE, UH, THE DENSITY COMPARISON. OKAY. NOPE, NO SITE CONSTRAINTS. YEAH. UH, UH, SITE CONSTRAINTS. IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE IT. IS THAT THE MAP WITHOUT A LOT CHOCOLATE? YEAH. IT'S A BUTTON, THE MAP WITH ALL THE EASEMENTS. THERE YOU GO. BALLET. OKAY, GREAT. THERE WE ARE. YEAH. SO, UM, SO I, I APPRECIATE, UM, UM, THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, YEAH, YEAH, THAT ONE WAS TOO. THAT'S FINE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE I'LL PROBABLY GO TO THE PREVIOUS ONE PREVIOUS ONE, PLEASE. OKAY. WERE THERE, GO AHEAD. NO, THE ZONING, THE SITE CONSTRAINTS. YEAH. WE'RE THERE, THERE'S JUST A DELAY ON THE TV. OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO, UM, AND THE FACT CONSTRAINTS MIGHT, IF YOU CAN SEE THAT THE, MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OBVIOUSLY A FARM AND, YOU KNOW, WITH WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING OUTSIDE AND WORKING IN THE GARDEN OR THE FARM, [01:55:01] YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE NOISE, UM, YOU KNOW, MUSIC ON, HOWEVER, THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORS WAS SCOPING. I APPRECIATE THEM SPEAKING AND WORKING WITH US FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS. THE, UH, THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE IS A SEPARATED, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ON THE NORTH SIDE ONLINE'S ROAD, UM, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED ON THE SIDE SIDE OF THE BOGGY CREEK. AND, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING ON THIS, ON, ON THIS MAP, YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT KINDS OF ZONING THAT LMU ZONING AT THE END WEST OF MELBOURNE ROAD. UH, YOU HAVE, UH, THE SPRINGDALE FARMS ON A MAN SALE THAT SOME TRACKS COMES OVER TO CFMG CEO ON SHADY LANE, UP TOWARDS THE AIRPORT, ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, TO THE NORTH OF US, HIS OWN JMU AND P ALL THE WAY TO AIRPORT AND EVERYTHING SOUTH OF US. CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE AIC TRACKS IS ALL ZONED COMMERCIAL TO DOWN TO AIRPORT, TO SEVENTH STREET. SO I WOULD, UM, ASK THEM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. AND, UM, I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GLASGOW. UM, I JUST WANT TO START OFF THE QUESTIONING BY, UH, CLARIFYING, UM, HI, I DON'T SEE THE TRACK TO A REFLECTED IN THE, UH, IN THE RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT, IS THE COMPROMISE REFLECTED ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING? NO, THE ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR ATTRACT ONE AND TRACK TWO. WE ONLY RECEIVED THE UPDATED INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOUNDARIES FOR TRACK TO A YESTERDAY, BUT, AND JUST HAVE A POSITION ON THAT. WE ARE STRONGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. AGAIN, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE DISCUSSIONS WITH LOT APARTMENT ETV WATERSHED AND THE CONCEPT GROUPS TO SEE WHICH ITEMS WE SUPPORT OTHERWISE. BUT IN GENERAL, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE THREE CATEGORIES INSTEAD OF TWO, WE SUPPORT AND MS. SHEVLIN, WOULD IT BE SUFFICIENT FOR STAFF'S PURPOSES IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE TO RECOMMEND THE, UH, THE, UH, COMPROMISE PROPOSAL TO SAY THE COMPROMISE AS WAS REFLECTED IN THE APPLICANTS, UM, UH, PRESENTATION. YES. AND OF COURSE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE AS THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE REVIEWED IRR TO CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHICH THINGS CAN BE IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, OR PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ROUND ROBIN HERE AND COMMISSIONER SHAW? UM, MY QUESTION IT'S, I GUESS, MORE OF A POINT OF CLARIFICATION ON THE FLOOD PLAIN MAP THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE BACKUP. UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THAT REFLECTIVE OF ANY UPDATED ATLAS, 21 MAPPING HEATHER CHAPMAN AGAIN? YES, IT IS. IT'S THE FULLY DEVELOPED FLOOD, PLAIN WITH UPDATED INFO AND I GUESS TO USE THE REST OF MY TIME, THE, THE EASTERN MOST TRACK CLOSE TO SHADY LANE LOOKED LIKE IN THAT MAPPING, THAT IT WAS ENTIRELY IN FLOOD PLAIN. SO HOW, HOW WOULD ONE BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON ONE PLANE WE'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS, UM, HE BELIEVES THAT, UM, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT, UM, UH, UM, A REPORT, A DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN ABREAST OF THE FLOOD PLAIN. HE BELIEVES THE MODELS THAT THE CITY USES IS NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE, AND HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO SUBMIT, UM, UM, A MODEL THAT SHOWS EXACTLY WHERE THE, UM, HOW THAT FITS IN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE REGARDING THE FLOODPLAIN AND REVEAL THE ALLIES WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AT A TIME OF FIVE PLAN, HEATHER CHAPLAIN PLANNING AND ZONING. THESE ITEMS WILL BE REVIEWED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN BY OUR DRAINAGE ENGINEERS. AND IF THERE ARE ANY WAIVERS OR VARIANCES OR REEVALUATION OF FLOOD PLAN, THEY WOULD BE HAPPENING AT THAT TIME. THE SITE CURRENTLY IS DEVELOPED, ALTHOUGH PRIMARILY WITH A URBAN GARDEN CORBIN FARM . THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO TO COMMISSIONER [02:00:01] SHAW, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? I HAD NEGLECTED TO DO THAT MOVE BY COMMISSIONER SCHEIDER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GUIDANCE BURRITO, ALL IN FAVOR, HOLD UP. GREEN THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHAW. GO AHEAD. OKAY, THERE WE GO. UH, JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THE COMPROMISE AGREEMENT. UH, AM I CORRECT? THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THREE SEPARATE LOTS. AND SO WOULD THAT REQUIRE, UH, SOME ZONING CHANGE TO ACHIEVE THAT CONFIGURATION? UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS. IT LOOKS LIKE THREE SEPARATE DESIGNATIONS FOR 'EM OR ARE THEY JUST SHIFTING THIS OF SIX OVER? I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE, UH, WHAT THOSE LOTS ARE. SURE. HEATHER CHAPLAIN AGAIN. AND WHAT WE DID IN THESE CASES IS WE REQUIRE SEPARATE FIELDS FOR EACH AREA. AT THIS POINT, SINCE IT WAS FILED UNDER ONE GENERAL ZONING REQUEST, WE JUST HAD ONE SET OF FIELD MONTHS FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. AND THIS IS PRETTY COMMON WHERE WHEN THERE'S DISCUSSION THAT ONE PART OF THE PROPERTY MIGHT BE ZONED DIFFERENTLY FROM ANOTHER, WE REQUIRE SEPARATE FIELD NOTES, IDENTIFYING EACH AREA AND THE CONDITIONS THAT APPLY TO EACH OF THOSE PRIOR TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL SO WOULD THE THREE LOT, UM, CONFIGURATION REQUIRED JUST TO ADDITIONAL FIELD NOTES BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T NEED THAT TO APPROVE ANYTHING HERE, CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WISHING TO SPEAK OR HAVE QUESTIONS WHERE WE GET TO EMOTION. CNA, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION? SURE. YOU'RE HONEST BURRITO. I MOVED TO SUPPORT THE COMPROMISE AGREEMENT, UM, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. UH, I WANT TO, I THINK, I THINK WHEN YOU'RE GOOD DO IT AS IS AS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT, UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THE COMPROMISE, UH, IN ITS ENTIRETY. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE STAFF IS TENTATIVELY SUPPORTING THE COMPROMISE OF THE APPLICANT, UM, THE FOREST, CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SURE. CZAR, UM, ANY, UH, KOSHER GAS FOOD, OR YOUR SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, I'VE BEEN, UH, FOLLOWING THIS CASE FROM THE SIDELINES FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AS THE, UM, AS ALL OF THE SPEAKERS HAVE HAVE MENTIONED. UM, AND IT'S NOT EASY, ESPECIALLY, UM, HAVING HAD THIS AS AN URBAN FARM AND IN MANY WAYS, AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AND AN OPEN GREEN SPACE FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. UM, I THINK THAT A TREMENDOUS ENOUGH THOUGHT HAS GONE INTO THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE, THE, WELL, THE CALLERS WHO OPPOSED ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THIS, BUT ALSO CAN LIVE WITH THE COMPROMISE IN MANY CASES. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS A POSITIVE IN TERMS OF ENSURING RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE. UM, THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAX OUT OR CAUSE, UM, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES TO THE PEOPLE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO I THINK IT'S A STRONG COMPROMISE, IT'S A STRONG DOCUMENT AND I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT IT. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISH TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST THE ITEM WE'RE AGAINST THE MOTION RATHER NEUTRAL. MR. AMPOULE GO AHEAD. NOT SPEAKING AGAINST, I'M SPEAKING MORE NEUTRAL, I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UM, THAT MOTION, BUT I, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERN WITH AS MUCH FLOOD FLOODPLAIN IN A SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREA. THAT'S EXPERIENCING FLOODING TO HAVE WHAT LOOKED LIKE IN A SITE PLAN SO MUCH PARKING, UM, WHICH I KNOW IS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF SERVICE, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN. OKAY. AND THE COMMISSIONER SPEAKING FOR THE MOTION. SURE. SCHNEIDER, I THINK I JUST WANT TO THANK THE NEIGHBORS FOR THEIR TENACITY ON WORKING ON THIS COMPROMISE AND GETTING TO SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE SUPPORT. SO OFTEN, UM, WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, JUST WANT US TO SAY NO TO MOVING FORWARD WITH, UH, PROPOSALS LIKE THIS, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY, UM, IT, IT DOES, IT DOESN'T REALLY HELP MOVE THE PROCESS ALONG. SO I KNOW HOW FRUSTRATING DEALING WITH, UM, APPLICANTS CAN SOMETIMES BE FOR NEIGHBORS. AND THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CHANGE FOR NEIGHBORS [02:05:01] WHO, UM, ARE, ARE LIKE, YEAH, IT'S THE LEAD OUTSET OR LOSING SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY SEEMS LIKE A REAL ASSET. BUT WHEN WE SEE NEIGHBORS, UM, WHO ARE WORKING MONTHS AND MONTHS TO MOVE DEVELOPERS INTO A, UH, AN AGREEMENT THAT'S MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORS, I THINK IT SENDS A SIGNAL TO OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING AND IT LETS DEVELOPERS NOW THAT THEY NEED TO WORK FOR COMPROMISE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING GREAT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL ON THE MOTION? THE LAST SPEAKER IN FAVOR, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. UM, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE COMPROMISE AS PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT AND TENTATIVELY SUPPORTED BY STAFF. UM, ALL IN FAVOR, SO UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO WHERE ARE WE HERE? UM, IT'S TWO OH ONE EAST MLK, UM, WHERE WE GET TO THIS, UH, COMMISSIONERS, JUST LIKE SOMETHING IN YOUR HEADS A LITTLE BIT. UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AN ITEM, UH, LATER TONIGHT TO CREATE A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ISSUES WORKING GROUP. UM, THE IDEA IS TO, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, NOT TECHNICALLY A JOINT WORKING GROUP, BUT THAT UTC, THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IS GOING TO APPOINT OTHER, UH, MEMBERS AND THESE PEOPLE WOULD, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO COORDINATE, UH, LOOKING AT TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. SO OVER THE NEXT, HOWEVER MANY MINUTES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CASES, UM, PLEASE THINK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT WORKING GROUP. ALRIGHT. [Item B12 (Part 1 of 3)] UM, MOVING ON TO 52 OH ONE EAST MLK, UH, THIS IS ITEM B 12 REZONING FROM SF THREE TO MF SIX. UM, HEATHER CHAFFIN, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? YES. ON THE 14 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE ONE DOT S H IT'S A SMART HOUSING PROJECT. THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM SF THREE N P TO M F AND P. THE SITE IS 2.64 ACRES STAFF IS RECOMMENDING M F THREE N P M, WHICH IS NOT WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED. THE PROPERTY IS IN THE NARROW AREA OF THE HEFLIN CASE. UM, IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST MLK ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN SPRINGDALE ROAD AND TANNAHILL LANE. IT DEVELOPED WITH ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. IT'S SURROUNDED BY SF BREE ZONING AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS THE BLAIRWOOD NATURE PRESERVE, WHICH IS, UH, USED BY OFTEN WILDLIFE RESCUE AND THE AUDUBON SOCIETY FURTHER EAST IS YOU AT BAPTIST CHURCH TO THE WEST AND SOUTH IT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES FURTHER EAST THERE'S THE, A TIARA AND YOU AND JIRA AND P PROPERTIES WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, COMMERCIAL USES, INCLUDING RETAIL GAS, STATION AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, ET CETERA. AT THE INTERSECTION WITH TANNAHILL RAIN, THERE WERE PROPERTIES , THERE WAS A SENIOR APARTMENT COMPLEX AND UNDEVELOPED LAND TO THE NORTH ACROSS EAST MLK IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ZONED SF TWO NP AND UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES ZONED TO SF SIX MP IS ZONED. THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED MIXED RESIDENTIAL ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. SO THERE WAS NOT A PLAN AMENDMENT NEEDED. UM, AS WE DISCUSSED ON THE HEFLIN CASE, THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO AFFECTED BY OWENS GROVE DRIVE, WHICH ATD IS NOT RECOMMENDING FOR AN EXTENSION THROUGH WITH THE HEFLIN PROPERTY OWNS GROVE WAS TO THE NORTH FOR THIS PROPERTY ON SCRUBS TO THE SOUTH. AGAIN, THERE COULD BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION. THE REQUEST IS FOR TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF 200 SMART HOUSING UNITS, A PORTABLE MULTIFAMILY. IT WOULD BE ABOUT HALF OF THE UNIT AT 50% MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT IN THIS LOCATION. IT'S SURROUNDED BY SFTU AND IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY AND ALL DIRECTIONS MULTIFAMILY SIX IS SUPPOSED TO BE LOCATED ON IN CENTRALLY LOCATED AREAS WITH TRANSPORTATION, [02:10:01] COMMERCIAL FACILITIES, ADJACENT TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. TRADITIONALLY IN AUSTIN, IT'S LOCATED IN PLACES LIKE TOD AREAS ALONG HIGHWAYS, MAJOR ARTERIALS AND THE UT CAMPUS. AND THAT'S THREE ON THE OTHER HAND IS 36 UNITS PER ACRE, MAXIMUM. AND IT'S LOCATED IN AREAS THAT ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED OR MEDIUM DENSITY IS A DESIRE. AGAIN, WE DO NOT SUPPORT BECAUSE INTENSIVE MULTIFAMILY SHOULD BE LOCATED ALONG MAJOR ARTERIALS AND HIGHWAYS. THE ZONING SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES AND CONSISTENT WITH EXISTING AND APPROVED LOCAL RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES. I BELIEVE THERE ARE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE AVAILABLE IN THE OPPOSITION. I WILL SAY THAT THE LETTERS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING THE MSX REQUESTS ARE SUPPORTING THE RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, LET'S GO OVER TO YOUR EARS HERE. UM, VICTORIA, HASI ARE YOU THERE? I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. ALL RIGHT. UM, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I SLIDE. WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OKAY. AS WE GET TO THEM. OKAY, GO AHEAD. UH, AGAIN, COMMISSIONER'S VICTORIA HASSEY WITH FORWARD DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE STANDBY. THIS IS CASE B12. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. RUN THE FIRST SLIDE. SECOND SLIDE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, SO THIS IMAGE PROVIDES A GEOGRAPHIC CONTEXT FOR THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT TRACKS IN RELATION TO IMAGINE ELEMENTS AND THE EXISTING TRANSIT STOPS, UM, WITH MORE THAN 350 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN GROWTH CONCEPT CORRIDOR. IT IS EXACTLY THE LOCATION WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE INCREASED DENSITY TO DELIVER ON THE GOALS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AS HEATHER MENTIONED WITH THE PROPERTIES 2.64 ACRES AND HAS ONE SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE ON IT AT THIS TIME, NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY FOR MIXED RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ALLOWS ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS BETWEEN LIKE AUSTIN ALL THE WAY THROUGH MSX. AND FOR THIS REASON, THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT IS NOT NEEDED, UH, FOR THIS REZONING REQUESTS. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. HOW THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED ASSET THREE, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO TWO DWELLING UNITS ON MORE THAN 2.5 ACRES OF LAND THAT'S ON AN ACTIVITY AND TRANSIT CORRIDOR. THIS WAS HARDLY EFFICIENT FOR SMART OF LAND FOR THIS LOCATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THAT GETS US TO OUR REQUESTS OF ZONING. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THE BIG STARTING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF 200 APARTMENT STYLE DWELLING UNITS OF WHICH 100 WILL BE, WILL BE AFFORDABLE. THE PROPOSAL IS SANCTIONED BY THE CITY SMART HOUSING PROGRAM, AND IT'S EXPECTED TO YIELD A FOUR STORY BUILDING. THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING MUCH NEEDED PEDESTRIAN AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO MLK IN THIS AREA. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. DOES THAT ANY COMPARISON HERE IS INTENDED TO SHOW YOU THE RANGE OF SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS FROM THE EXISTING SF THREE ZONING COMPARED WITH THE GRADATION OF MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, A FOUR STORY FALLS WELL BELOW THE HEIGHT ALLOWED UNDER MS. SIX. UM, AND YOU MAY BE ASKING WHY MSX AND NOT SOME OTHER MFA ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE DRIVING FORCE FOR THE MSX REQUESTS IS FOR DWELLING UNIT DENSITY AND IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, THEREFORE ANY ZONING DISTRICT, LESS THAN MSX WILL RESULT IN LESS HOUSING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THE SITE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AND ANY DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO BE LOCATED NEAR SUPPORTING TRANSIT AND COMMERCIAL USES WITH COMMERCIAL NODES AT SPRINGDALE AND AT TANNAHILL, THIS SITE [02:15:01] IS WELL SITUATED TO RECEIVE GREATER DENSITY. AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE INCREASED RESIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL DENSITY SHOULD GO. WE CANNOT KEEP LOSING OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPLEMENT THE GOALS OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WHILE STAFF ARGUES THAT THE CONDITIONS OF MLK ARE OUR LIMITING FACTOR TO GAINING THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY. I IMPLORE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO USE THIS REASONING AND MAKING LAND USE DECISIONS, OUR IS GOING TO FALL FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND ON MANY LEVELS. UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE FUNDING REQUIRED TO COMPREHENSIVELY UPDATE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED, AND THEREFORE IT IS ON THE BACKS OF DEVELOPMENT TO CONTRIBUTE THOSE UPGRADES. NEXT SLIDE, OKAY. FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, THE PROPERTY IS ON A TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK WITH PLANS, FOR UPGRADING INFRASTRUCTURE, TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES, AND VEHICLES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. ADDITIONALLY, EAST MLK IS IDENTIFIED FOR HIGH CAPACITY BUS, RAPID TRANSIT IN THE FUTURE. AND TODAY THERE ARE THREE EXISTING STOPS WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE SUBJECT TRACKS. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE TRANSIT STOPS AS THEY RELATE TO THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTIES NEARBY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE NODES OF COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY AT SPRINGDALE AND MLK, AND ALSO AT TANNAHILL ON MLK AND HIGH RESIDENTIAL IS VERY APPROPRIATE TO CONNECT THE COMMERCIAL NODES ALONG THIS ACTIVITY CORRIDOR. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. OKAY. ON MLK BOULEVARD, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THEM. OKAY. AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY WILL BRING SUPPORT FOR MUCH NEEDED TRANSPORTATION AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS HERE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SEE THE SAME LOOKING EAST ON MLK WITH THE DRIVEWAY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SCENE ON THE RIGHT JUST PAST THE ORANGE ROAD SIGN. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AND WHILE NOT THE MOST COMMON ZONING DISTRICT, THERE ARE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF SFX DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CITY. UM, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A FOUR STORY MS. FIX DEVELOPMENT THAT FRONT BULL CREEK ROAD, A SMALLER ROAD THAT IS ONLY NOW SEEING SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS BROUGHT BY NEWER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. AND I'LL POINT OUT THAT THIS, THIS, UH, SIX PROPERTY, UM, HAS BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. WELL THE FOUR STORY AND THE SIX DEVELOPMENT ON SOUTH LAMAR, UM, TELL TAMARA IS CURRENTLY A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED, YOU KNOW, MAJOR, MAJOR ARTERIAL NEXT WAY. OKAY. GIMME ROAD FIVE STORIES ABOVE PARKING AND LOCATED, NOT ON A HIGHWAY ARTERIAL OR A MAJOR NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH WAY. NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS TO SUPPORT THIS REZONING. THE SUMMARIES, THE REASONING WILL ALLOW FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT ALONG AN IMAGINE, AUSTIN GROWTH CONCEPT CORRIDOR. IT WILL ASSIST THE CITY'S DESIRE TO HAVE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO TRANSIT SUPPORTED DENSITY, ALL LENDING THROUGH A HEALTHIER, MORE SUSTAINABLE AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. UH, UH, LAST THOUGHTS HERE, YOUR TIME'S EXPIRED, BUT WE'RE BEING A LITTLE FLEXIBLE, RIGHT? THIS IS IT. UH, ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUEST IS SUPPORTED BY THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. REZONING WILL PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GREATER DENSITY THAT WILL SUPPORT IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS MAJOR CORRIDOR. AND IT WILL PROVIDE TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEREFORE MAINTAINING THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DIVERSITY OF RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA WITH THIS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE, UH, RON THROWER, UM, WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE AS FOR THE CASE YOU WISH TO SPEAK. YEAH, WE'RE ON TRAIL. WE'RE HERE. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER SIDE THAT WE BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATELY, UH, DESIGNATED FOR FMSA CROWNING IN MANY WAYS. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IT DON'T GO TO THE LAST SLIDE ON THE PRESENTATION OF MASSAGING. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, ONE FACTOR, WHICH MANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE HEARD ME BRING UP BEFORE. AND THAT'S THE FACT THAT THERE'S A PROVISION OF THE CODE THAT DOES ALLOW FOR CMF TWO, THREE, AND FOUR TO UTILIZE MSX ZONING, IF THERE IS NO DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO HERE'S STAFF IS RECOMMENDING MS. BREE. AND, BUT FOR THE HOUSE THAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY, ZONING COULD OCCUR WITH ONLY 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE HAVE A PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THAT IT'S GOT 50% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. [02:20:01] AND SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE TRANSIT ROADWAY THAT WAS DOWNGRADED AND SPEED BY FIVE MILES AN HOUR BY THE CITY COUNCIL JUST 10 DAYS AGO, UH, AS AN EFFORT TO PROMOTE THE VISION ZERO GOALS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, PROJECT COMPLIES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND IT JUST STILL LOOKS TO ME THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH PRINCIPLES OF LAND, USE DESIGNATIONS ON PROPERTIES FROM A CODE THAT WAS DEVELOPED OVER 30 YEARS AGO. UM, AUSTIN'S CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THEN. AND I BELIEVE THAT NOW'S THE TIME FOR MORE DENSITY ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS AND MS. SIX ON THE SITE MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NAVAJO, ARE YOU IN THE LINE AND STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? YEAH, OKAY. NOW IF WE GET YOU BACK, UM, WE'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK AFTER THE, UH, THE OPPOSED, UH, SPEAKERS HAVE SPOKEN IS THAT YOU NETO? YEAH. I HAVE TO AMIR REMEMBER A COUPLE OF TIMES, RIGHT. TRICK FOR THIS. THERE YOU GO. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL KEEP IT SHORT. UM, MY NAME IS NAT HOE. I'M WITH CIVILITY. WE, UH, THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND SUPPORTING, UH, RON AND VICTORIA'S TEAM. UH, I THINK WE'VE COVERED THE BASIS OF THE LAND USE PRETTY WELL. I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT FROM THE ENGINEERING SIDE, BUT THIS PROJECT IS SITE IS IN THE URBAN WATERSHED, UH, AND IS WHEN IN THE DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE, UH, WE STILL TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BASED ON THE OLD CODE. UM, SO THAT JUST MEANS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOU WANT TO DENSIFY THE, THE DEVELOPMENT. SO FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. UM, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS KIND OF THE SITE WHERE WE APPRECIATE THE OTTOMAN, UH, SOCIETY TO BRING UP THE NEARBY FEATURES IN THE RESERVE. AND I THINK WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED ENGINEERING, UM, DISCUSSION TO SHOW HOW WE CAN DESIGN THIS SITE RESPONSIBLY AND WELL FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, SO THAT THE NEW IMPERVIOUS COVER OR THE ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL NOT ONLY BE TREATED AND DETAINED TO ATLAS 14 LEVEL, BUT ALSO WOULD MEET ALL OF THE STANDARDS FROM THE CITY. UM, SO WE WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A LOT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDED IN TOWN. AND SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT THOUGHT TO THAT, UM, UH, TO SUPPORT, SO THE CASE, UH, SO THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT WE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THE BEST PROJECTS ON THIS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AUSTIN. SO I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION. UM, YOU STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND, UH, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG WITH THE TELEVISION OR INTERNET BROADCAST, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO TURN DOWN THE VOLUME ON THAT. UM, DO WE HAVE NICOLE NETHERTON HELLO? THIS IS NICOLE. HI, WE CAN HEAR, WE CAN HEAR YOU. UM, ARE YOU A PRIMARY SPEAKER ORGANIZER OF OTHER OTHER SPEAKERS? UM, I'M ONE OF TWO SPEAKERS FROM TRAVIS AUDUBON. OKAY. WELL, WE HAVE YOU DOWN AS A, AS A, THE PRIMARY OPPOSITION. SO YOU HAVE UP TO SIX MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE IT. OKAY, THANKS. UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS NICOLE NETHERTON. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TRAVIS AUDUBON SOCIETY HERE IN AUSTIN. TRAVIS AUDUBON WAS FOUNDED IN 1952 BY CENTRAL TEXAS BIRDERS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN CONSERVING HABITAT FOR THE BIRDS THEY LOVE IN 1985 PREEMINENT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN ZOOLOGIST, DR. FRANK BLAIR GIFT TO THE SOCIETY, HIS PROPERTY AT 54 OH ONE EAST MLK. WE BELIEVE AT THE REQUEST OF HIS WIFE, FERN, WHO WAS AN AVID BIRDER. TRAVIS AUDUBON HAS SINCE SET THOSE 10 ACRES ASIDE AS A NATURE PRESERVE IN A RAPIDLY DEVELOPING PART OF AUSTIN, WHERE WOODS ADDED AS IT HAS COME TO BE KNOWN IS ONE OF THREE SANCTUARIES THAT TRAVIS AUDUBON OWNS AND MAINTAINS SINCE 1985. BLUE WOODS HAS BEEN THE SITE OF WOODLAND HABITAT RESTORATION. AND MORE RECENTLY HAS BEEN THE FOCUS OF OUR YOUTH EDUCATION PROGRAMMING. WE'LL SEE THE PRESERVE AS A COMMUNITY ASSET THAT WE HOPE TO SHARE WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN THE RELATIVELY NATURE DEFICIENT PART OF AUSTIN, AS PART OF THE CITY'S CONNECTING CHILDREN TO NATURE INITIATIVE IN DEPTH, GIS MAPPING IDENTIFIED NATURE DEFICITS FOR COMMUNITIES IN SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN TWO ONE AND TWO, THREE ZIP CODES ADJACENT TO BLAIR WOODS. AND THAT [02:25:01] RECEIVED SCORES OF SEVEN OUT OF 10 INDICATING HIGH LEVELS OF NATURE NEED IN THIS AREA. BLAIRWOOD SERVES AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN ITS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR MISSION TO CONSERVE THIS LAND RESTORE AND MANAGE WILDLIFE HABITAT AND PROVIDE ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. TRAVIS AUDUBON OPPOSES THE REQUEST FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AT 52 OH ONE EAST MLK TO BE WITH AN . WE SUPPORT THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ASSESSMENT AT A LOWER DENSITY. ZONING DESIGNATION WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE. AND WE AGREE WITH THE OPINION THAT IS A MORE SUITABLE CHOICE. OUR MAIN OPPOSITION TO MF SIX CONCERNS, THE HIGH DENSITY AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AROUND SAYS FOR SURFACE PARKING BLAIR WOODS IS HOME TO COLEMAN SPRINGS NAMED AFTER THE REPUBLIC OF TEXAS FORT. THAT WAS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. THE POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING AND POLLUTION OF THIS WATER SOURCE FROM RUNOFF FROM THE PROPOSED 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER IS A HUGE CONCERN FOR THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE PRESERVE DAMAGE TO THE SPRINGS WOULD HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS TO THE WILDLIFE AND HABITAT AT BLAIR WAS WE CAN SUPPORT INCREASING THE DENSITY ABOVE SF THREE, AND WE DO SUPPORT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SH DESIGNATION, BUT THINK THAT MSX IS TOO AGGRESSIVE FOR THIS SITE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE MARK WILSON? HELLO, THIS IS MARK. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I, CAN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? GO AHEAD. UH, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARK WILSON. I'M A MEMBER OF THE TRAVIS AUDUBON BOARD WITH DIRECTOR RESPONSIBILITIES FOR BLAIR WOODS NATURE PRESERVE FIRST I'D LIKE TO AFFIRM THE TRAVIS AUDUBON BOARD'S UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR THE POSITION JUST OUTLINED BY NICOLE. NETHERTON OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AT 52 OH ONE. I'M SORRY, 52 OH ONE EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING. A SECOND. I WANT TO BRING SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE HISTORIC COLEMAN SPRINGS LOCATED IN BLAIR WOODS LISTED IN BRUNER SPRINGS OF TEXAS. IT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN AN IMPORTANT WATER SOURCE ALONG THE EL CAMINO DE RAL DELLA STAY HOUSE AND THE KEYS SPRING FOR THE 1830S FORT COLEMAN. IT'S A GRAVEL BED SPRING DIFFERENT FROM THE AQUIFER SPRINGS IN WEST TRAVIS COUNTY. THE SPRING FLOW IS LESS THAN IN HISTORIC TIMES, BUT IT STILL RUNS TODAY FROM A WELL HOUSE REPLENISHING THE POND AND THE WETLANDS AND THE PRESERVE THIS CORONARY SPRINGS DEPENDS ON SURFACE RAIN, INFILTRATION, AND THEN THEREBY BASIN. THE PROPOSED ZONING WILL ALLOW UP TO 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. THIS COULD WELL, CAUSE THE END OF THIS HISTORIC SPRING WITH ALL THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS YOU CAN IMAGINE TO THE POND AND THE WETLANDS, WE HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION FOR ZONING AND DECREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER. UH, THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A ANDREW STEVENS ON THE LINE. ANDREW STEVENS. YES, THIS IS ANDREW STEVENS. HOW'S EVERYONE TONIGHT. HOPE YOU'RE GOOD. UM, YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW. GREAT. UM, I LIVE, I'M LOOKING AT THE HOUSE, UM, ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE UPS ZONING TO THE, THE MS. THREE. UM, THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE IMPERMEABLE COVER ARE VERY VALID. UM, AND I THINK THAT TO MR. THROWER'S POINT, UM, OUTDATED CITY CODES THAT WERE DONE 30 YEARS AGO, I MEAN, PART OF THE REASON I HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED IS CAUSE A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE IDEA OF JUST PUTTING 200 EXTRA UNITS IN IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IS GOING TO CHANGE KIND OF EVERYTHING FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS. I, SO I WANT TO QUOTE THE CITY STAFF SAYING, UM, THAT, YEAH, WELL, I DON'T NEED TO QUOTE IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE IT, BUT, BUT BASICALLY THE IDEA IS, IS I'M VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THAT, THAT, THAT , ALTHOUGH THERE ARE CAVEATS AND IT'S BEEN GRANTED OTHER PLACES, UM, THAT THIS IS NOT REALLY WHERE THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS IT. UM, THAT'S IT. THANKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, MS. HASI DO YOU WANT TO, UH, DO, TAKE YOUR LAST THREE MINUTES. HI, YES, PLEASE. [02:30:01] GO AHEAD. YEAH. HELLO? IS THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE? YEAH, THIS IS PERFECT. AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. IT SEEMS LIKE I'M NOT, UH, I DO NOT HAVE YOU REGISTERED AS A SPEAKER AND UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I GOT THE EMAIL FROM ANDREW RIVERA, UM, CONFIRMING MY, UM, ABILITY TO SPEAK, BUT NEVER EVEN GOT A PHONE NUMBER. I HAD TO GET THIS FROM ANDREW WHO JUST SPOKE. UH, OH, HOLD ON. UM, I'M GOING TO CHECK ON THAT. IF YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP, I ACTUALLY CAN'T LET YOU, BECAUSE IT'S THE RULES THAT WERE POSTED FOR THIS HEARING. LET ME CHECK ON YOUR SIGN UP. I MEAN, I HAVE THE EMAIL FROM ANDREW SAYING THAT, UM, I CAN SPEAK ON BOTH OF THESE ISSUES, BUT HE NEVER, HE SAID, I HAVE YOU REGISTERED CALLING FROM MY PHONE NUMBER AND THEN IT SAYS THE CALL NUMBER AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED TUESDAY AFTERNOON, WHICH NEVER CAME. OKAY. IF YOU CAN JUST STAND BY MS. SHARP, HOLD UP. PLAYS ON ANDREW. MR. SHARP IS CORRECT. I'M SORRY. MR. RIVERA. MR. SHARP IS CONFIRMED. OKAY, GREAT. GO AHEAD MR. SHARP. THREE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT I'M SPEAKING TWICE INDICATES HOW THE SOMEDAY NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEING SURROUNDED BY THESE DEVELOPMENTS. AND I HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER AND THE DIVERSITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY THESE HOUSES ARE PASSED DOWN FROM PARENTS TO THE CHILDREN, BUT THIS IS OCCURRING LESS THAN LESS BECAUSE EITHER THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE TOO HIGH OR PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE THEIR GREEN SPACE AND PRIVACY DON'T EXIST. SO WHEN YOU SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE RACIST HISTORY OF AUSTIN OR THE GENERAL GENTRIFICATION OF AUSTIN, I VERY MUCH DISAGREE, BUT MOVING ON, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO USE MY TIME TO, UM, USE MY VOICE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS. UM, SO THIS IS FROM AN EMAIL FROM ANDREA PETTIT. WE ARE CONCERNED WITH FLOODING, LACK OF VEGETATION AND THE NEED FOR ENGINEERS TO PRODUCE CONCRETE EXAMPLES OF PAST, PAST SUCCESSES OF SERIOUS FLOODING OCCURRENCES, WHERE A POND WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT YOUR SIBLING CIVIL ENGINEERS PRESENTED TO US WERE SUCCESSFUL. ALSO, WE ARE AWARE THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDS , WHICH IS A SMALLER ZONING OPTION AT THE SAME TIME. THE DEVELOPER WANTS MORE UNITS, WHICH IS UP TO 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH WILL CAUSE FLOODING. WE ARE CONCERNED WITH BOTH THE MLK AND HAPPENED LANE PROJECT THAT THE SAME DEVELOPER IS INVOLVED WITH AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A DEVELOPER, NOT TO BE THINKING IN A HOLISTIC MANNER ABOUT FITTING THE TWO PROJECTS IN WITH THE EXISTING LIP AND ATMOSPHERE OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS FROM AN EMAIL FROM JUAN BLA. UH, HIS FIRST POINT IS ABOUT THE FLOODING WITH THE ALIVE 80% IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE HIGHLIGHTED POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE PROPERTY. THAT MEANS OUR HOMES. THAT'S WHERE OUR HOUSES ARE GIVEN. THIS STATED HARDSHIP OF A NORMAL MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY HAS TO ENDURE A FLOODED HOUSE IS A DISASTER THAT COULD FINANCIALLY SET BACK, SET US BACK YEARS AND EVEN RUIN US. I'M THE GREEN SPACE AND NOISE POLLUTION, AND A SPACE WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE TREES AND GREEN SPACES. THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY IMPACTED OUR WAY OF LIFE. THE TRAFFIC NORTH AND MLK IS MUCH MORE NOTICEABLE SINCE THEY HAD CLEARED THE LOT, NOT TO MENTION THE IMPACT IS VISIBLE TO THE AUDUBON SOCIETY, BLAIR WOODS, BUT I'VE NOTICED A DECLINE IN WILDLIFE DON'T. WE DESERVE GREEN SPACES ON THE EAST SIDE ON TRAFFIC. UNDERSTANDABLY, THIS IS EVERYWHERE, BUT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED THAT OUR CLOSEST MAIN AVENUE IS MLK. AND DURING RUSH HOURS REALLY HAVE TO COMMUTE WHERE WE HAVE TO COMMUTE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY BAD, 200 OR MORE UNITS DIRECTLY ON MFA. MLK WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL NOT TO MENTION THE PROSPECT OF AN EMERGENCY ROAD RUNNING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THOSE ARE OUR EMAILS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE CLOSING REMARK AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE PRACTICES BEING USED BY BOTH THE DEVELOPERS AND THIS VERY COMMISSION THAT CONTINUE TO PUT GREED AND MONEY OVER THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN. WHILE WE CAN ACCEPT THE DESIGNATION AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, I PREFER THIS COMMISSION PROVE WHOSE INTERESTS YOU TRULY CARE ABOUT AND KEEP THE ZONING AT SF THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, KEEPING IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THAT I YIELD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, THE SAUCY, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, WE COORDINATED WITH THE AUDUBON SOCIETY. UM, ONCE WE FOUND OUT AT THE LAST HEARING THAT, UM, THEY HAD CONCERNS, THEY DID [02:35:01] REACH OUT TO US. AND SO WE DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND WE AGREED TO A NUMBER OF ITEMS, UM, THAT WOULD SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, ITEMS, INCLUDING A VEGETATIVE BUFFER FENCING, UH, UH, SUPPORTING THE REMOVAL OF INVASIVE PLANT FECES AND, AND, AND OTHER MATTERS THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE WILDLIFE. UM, SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR AN INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND I CAN SAY THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, THESE CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE CITY'S STRICT REGULATION FOR DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY. ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE CANNOT MAKE ISSUES WORSE. IT CAN ONLY KEEP IT THE SAME IF NOT IMPROVE IT. AND SO THE CONCERN THAT DEVELOPMENT HERE IS GOING TO INCREASE FLOODING, UM, WOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT REQUIRE THAT, THAT NOT HAPPEN TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WITH REGARDS, UH, FOR THE SPRING THAT WAS MENTIONED, UM, WE, WE DID HAVE AN ENGINEER LOOK INTO, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, LOOK INTO THOSE CONCERNS AND I'LL LET OUR ENGINEER SPEAK TO THAT. UM, LATER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. UM, AND IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IS AN ISSUE AND THE NOISE FROM HIM OKAY. IS AN ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THE I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS WHERE WE WANT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A CORRIDOR. THE CITY IS PLANNING TO CARRY A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, AND, AND OUTSIDE OF JUST CARS, BUT BY, BY WALKING AND BY MASS TRANSIT, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE WE NEED HOUSING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND HAVE ANOTHER SYSTEM TO RELY UPON. AND A BUILDING AT THIS SITE WOULD ACTUALLY HELP TO BUFFER THE NOISES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY HEARS FROM MLK. UM, THEY WOULD BE BLOCKED OFF FROM THAT. UM, AGAIN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, UH, POSITION, BUT, OR THERE'S NO, UM, PROPOSAL BY ATD TO MAKE VEHICULAR CONNECTIONS THROUGH THESE PROPERTIES. UM, IT WOULD JUST BE PEDESTRIAN, WHICH I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE TO HELP PEOPLE GET AROUND EASIER, FASTER, AND KEEP MORE EYES ON THE STREET. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE JUST, WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT HERE. WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE LESS AFFORDABLE, LESS DONING WE GET HERE, THE LESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE CAN PROVIDE. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOVED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, ALL IN FAVOR, GREEN UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UM, I HAVE COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK OR HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM. SEE COMMISSIONER SHAW AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER SHAW. SO, UM, I KNOW WE CAN'T REQUIRE PUBLIC HOUSING AS PART OF ANY ZONING, UH, APPROVAL, BUT AS THE APPLICANT DOWN TO THIS AGREEMENT, UM, SHOULD WE PASS THIS ZONING? I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING HOLDING THEM TO THIS, UH, PROVIDING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, OR, OR IS THAT NOT THE CASE? UH, SO THAT'S, AND THEN ALSO IN THE LETTER FROM THE HOW, UM, WELL, ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, AFTER THAT, UH, NACD, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THEIR LETTER FROM ABOUT, UH, NOT BEING ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THE FEE WAIVERS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE MORE. IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM INNATE CD AVAILABLE, HEATHER CHAPLAIN PLANNING AND ZONING, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY AVAILABLE FROM NHD, BUT SMART HOUSING. YOU CAN GET A WAIVER AT TIME OF ZONING AND, OR AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. IF YOU'RE PROPOSING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING OBJECT TO THE STANDARDS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING DEPARTMENT AGREES TO, IF THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROJECT AND HAVE IT BUILT AT TIME OF SITE PLAN, THE FEES AT SITE PLAN. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT AN HDD, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO. WE MET THE FEES THAT THEY HAD WAVED AT TIME OF ZONING, BUT IT TIME OF SITE PLAN, THEY DID NOT WANT TO DO A SPOT HOUSING PROJECT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY, I GIVE HER FEES AND THE APPLICANT OKAY. MAY BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH THIS THAN I AM, BUT AT THIS TIME THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. AND NHD HAS APPROVED THE DUES IN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY'VE [02:40:01] REQUESTED. DO YOU WANT TO THROW THIS TO THE APPLICANT TO FIND OUT IF THEY'VE SIGNED ANY BINDING AGREEMENTS OR ANYTHING? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I'M JUST TRYING SEE IF THIS SOMEHOW HOW THEY'RE BOUND TO THIS HOUSING SPECIFICITY ON THE LINE. YES. I FOUND HIM SHORTLY. OKAY. UM, IF YOU MEET THE SMART HOUSING REQUIREMENT, UH, THERE ARE, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR CERTIFICATION BEFORE AT MULTIPLE STEP, BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS BEFORE CFO IN ORDER FOR, TO GET THE CFO, UH, THEIR CERTIFICATION REQUIRED TO, UH, ACCESSIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY. SO I THINK THAT JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE GO TO WITH NACD, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS THERE THERE'S UM, SO THERE'S REQUIREMENTS CHECKPOINT THAT WE HAVE TO GO ALONG THE WAY, NOT JUST FOR PERMITTING, BUT FOR THE CFO AS WELL. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M HEARING THAT THE APPLICANT IS BOUND, ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR, IF WE DO ALLOW THIS ONLY IF THEY'RE BOUND TO BE A SMART HOUSING, I'M NOT HEARING THAT DEFINITIVELY, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, THEN I SAW COMMISSIONER CZAR'S HAND OR THE COMMISSIONER, SO, ALL RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE. UM, SO I, I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU GUYS SAY THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT 50% ONSITE INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THEN A STAFF IS SUGGESTING IN A SIX OR IN A THREE, YOU GUYS ARE JUST PULLING FOR MS. SIX. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS? UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER, AND THEN OF COURSE WE CAN DO THE MATH. WHAT SOME OF THOSE ARTISTS GET THE AFFORDABLE UNITS AS NUMBER EIGHT IS REQUESTED IS 200 AS HAS BEEN STATED. AND UNDER WITH AN EVEN MIXTURE OF ONE BEDROOM AND TWO BEDROOMS, IT WOULD BE A 70 UNIT MAXIMUM SEVEN MINUTES. OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH, MAYBE THIS IS FOR THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE WATER QUALITY AND THE WATER DETENTION. I'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING THAT MIGHT BE EXISTING IN THE AREA. DEFINITELY. UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THE SIZE SIT AT ON A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGH POINT. AND SO ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S A BIT OF A KRAVIS, THAT'S A SLOPE TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THIS SITE SLOPE TO WHAT THE WEST, WHERE THERE'S A CHANNEL THAT KIND OF CONVEY A LOT OF THE CREEK THAT CONVEY A LOT OF THE FLOW THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD KIND OF DRAIN INTO. UM, AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE ALREADY KIND OF DRAINED THAT WAY. AND FROM AN ENGINEERING AND DESIGN STANDPOINT, CHANCES ARE WE PROBABLY GOING TO DESIGN IT TO TRAIN, TO DRAIN WEST, WHICH IS BASICALLY A WAY FROM THE RESERVE IN A WAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONVEYING CHANNEL. AND AS VICTORIA MENTIONED, THIS WILL BE WITHIN THE FIRST WAVE OF A PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE PART OF THE ATHLETICS 14 REQUIREMENTS. SO WE WILL BE DESIGNING DETENTION ONSITE. THAT IS WELL ABOVE WHAT ANY OTHER PROJECTS ARE DOING. SO WE HAVE TO MEET THE NEW REQUIREMENT FOR RAINFALL DATA. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS ALMOST A GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE TO PROVIDE WHAT A QUALITY FOR ALL NEW AND REDEVELOPED IMPERVIOUS COVER AS WELL. SO THIS IS NOT A PARKING LOT THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECONVERT RIGHT. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FULL, FULLY BACKED OUT WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION REQUIREMENT. AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS NOT EXACTLY THE, THE LEAST STRINGENT, UM, COMPARED TO OTHERS. SO, UH, SO WITH THE NATURE PRESERVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO DO YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD WITH EITHER EATS RELEVANCE, EITHER THESE ZONES, HOW ARE YOU GUYS TAKING A CONSIDERATION, YOUR LIGHTING AND DUMPSTER PLACEMENT, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THE PRESERVE MIGHT NOT CARE TO BE A PART OF IT. WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, AS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COMPATIBILITY, SETBACK AND REQUIREMENT THAT WE WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AND COMPATIBILITY DOES SPEAK TO, UM, SCREENING AND, AND REFLECTIONS AND, AND A DUMPSTER PLACEMENT AND SO ON. UH, SO IT CERTAINLY WOULD HONOR THAT, BUT I THINK BEYOND THAT, I THINK WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AS WELL. SO WE DEFINITELY WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE MECHANISM IS, BUT THERE'S, UH, FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, [02:45:01] BUT FROM A SITE PLAN THAT IS ALL PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR REVIEW. JUST LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE, EVERYTHING ON A MAP HERE, I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ON THE, I GUESS, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THAT YOU GUYS COULD LOOK INTO DARK SKIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LIGHT AND OF COURSE, SAME FOR THE SOUTH OKAY. CUSHNER IS OUR, AND THEN COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER THERE YOU GO. UM, HUH. I THINK THIS QUESTION GOES TO, UH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM AUDUBON. UH, I, UH, I HEARD THE APPLICANT SAY THAT, UM, YOU'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AND THAT THE APPLICANT MADE, UM, OR IS, IS REPRESENTING THAT THEY'LL MAKE SOME CHANGES TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS. UM, UH, SO I WAS JUST CHECKING TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK IS LEFT, LEFT ON DONE, OR HOW YOU THINK THAT THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL STILL WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PRESERVE SOMEBODY ON FROM AUTOBON. HI, THIS IS NICOLE NETHERTON. UM, SO WE DID HI, WE DID SPEAK WITH VICTORIA. UM, BUT PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS PREDICATED, UM, ON OUR OPPOSITION TO MF SIX. SO THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED, UM, WERE IN TERMS OF THAT, WE WERE HOPING THAT MS. THREE WOULD WHAT BE, WHAT THEY WOULD COME UP WITH. UM, LIKE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SAID, WE DISCUSSED SOME THINGS LIKE, UH, DARK SKIES, UM, THEIR BIRD FRIENDLY BUILDING STANDARDS. UM, AUSTIN HAS DONE THE MAIN MIGRATORY FLYWAY AND BLAIR WOODS IS A PLACE WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF MIGRATORY BIRD STOPOVER WHEN THEY COME IN TOWN IN THE SPRING AND IN THE FALL. UM, SO WE'RE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE THE BUILDING AS FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, SAME THING WITH THE VEGETATION THAT'S AROUND TRYING TO BUFFER, UM, LIGHT AND NOISE, ALL OF THIS. SO, SORRY, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU WITH GOD. A LIMITED TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS, JUST SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, UH, W W GOING TO, UH, TO LEVEL SIX AND SIX, W W WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR YOU GUYS? WHAT, LIKE, WHAT ABOUT IT MAKES IT, UH, PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU? SURE. SO, UM, THE MAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THE MAIN CONCERN WE HAVE IS THE HISTORIC SPRINGS, UM, BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE FROM, UM, A HYDROLOGIST, EVERY A POINT AT WHICH THERE HAS BEEN DEVELOPMENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, STARTING AT THE 1970S, THAT THE FLOW OF THE SPRINGS HAS DIMINISHED. SO THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT FLOODING. I HEAR WHAT VICTORIA SAYS ABOUT THAT. THEY HAVE TO IMPROVE. UM, THEY CAN'T MAKE IT WORSE, BUT HISTORICAL DATA SHOWS THAT THAT SPRING FLOW, BECAUSE IT'S THE GRAVEL FED SPRINGS DIMINISHES EVERY TIME THAT CONCRETE GETS PUT ON THE GROUND. SO WE'RE WORRIED THAT WITHOUT THE SPRINGS, UM, BEING A HEALTHY PART OF THE PRESERVE, THAT THERE ARE, IT'S SORT OF A DOMINO EFFECT OF PRE OF EFFECTS FOR THE HABITAT THAT WE'VE BEEN RESTORING. THANK YOU. UM, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER SHOTS. UM, SO IF, IF WE, UH, I THINK THIS IS FOR THE STAFF, IF, IF WE VOTE FOR MF SIX, IS THERE ANY CERTAINTY THAT THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED AS A SMALL, AS A SMART PROPERTY? I JUST WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT THE ANSWER WAS OR IF WE VOTE FOR ANY CHANGE, THEIR CABINETS ONLY IN THIS STAGE. NO, IT'S THAT THE SITE PLAN STAGE WHERE LIKE THE ACTUAL DESIGN AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS ARE DESIGNED, AND THAT'S WHEN THE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY CAN BE ISSUED IS ESTABLISHED AT THIS STAGE. IT'S JUST THAT IT'S PROPOSED AND HAS THE SMART HOUSING CERTIFICATION. AND IS THAT, IS THAT ALWAYS THE CASE THAT FOR SENDING CHECKS LIKE THIS, WHERE THEY'RE SMART. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. SORRY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISH TO SPEAK OR HAVE QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SHAY, GO AHEAD. SO I'M GOING TO JUST KEEP FOLLOWING THAT SAME QUESTION. SO, UM, WERE YOU DIRECTED [02:50:01] TOWARD, UH, THE APPLICANTS? SO, UH, MS. HASA, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO MEMORIALIZE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO THE SMILE THING AND ALSO LIKE THE SAND AFFORDABILITY, UM, PLACE ON ANDREW REPAIR COMMISSIONER SAY COULD REPEAT OR HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING HIM. OKAY. SO I'M REDIRECTING THE SAME QUESTION THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER SHAW, MR. SNYDER HAD ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE COMMITMENT THAT, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT OF GETTING THE SMART HOUSING AND THE 50% AFFORDABILITY. UM, SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ASKING STAFF AND THE ENGINEER, BUT, UM, WHAT DO WE HAVE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT MEMORIALIZES OR GIVES US SOME TYPE OF PREDICTABILITY THAT WE ARE HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION? I MEAN, WHAT, W WHAT MECHANISM ARE YOU PUTTING FORWARD? I GUESS THIS IS DIRECTED TO VICTORIA. SO, UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THEN. UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO FIND SOME SORT OF WAY TO MEMORIALIZE THAT, ESPECIALLY BEFORE WE GET TO FINAL READING AT COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR CLIENTS ARE, THIS IS NOT THEIR FIRST SMART HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PHASE, UM, THAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHATEVER VEHICLE THAT NEEDS TO BE, TO PUT SOME SECURITIES IN PLACE WITH THAT. I'M JUST NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THAT IS EITHER AT THIS POINT. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NORMALLY I THINK OF CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, BUT, UM, I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD GO IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. UM, I KNOW THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOUND BY, YOU KNOW, RULES, STATE RULES AND REGULATIONS ON THAT. SO WE'RE WILLING TO, TO FIND A SOLUTION AND A WAY TO MEMORIALIZE THAT, UH, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. AND LIKE I SAID, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PUT IN PLACE BEFORE WE GET TO FINAL READING WITH COUNSEL. OKAY. SO WHAT, UH, YOU JUST MENTIONED, SO POSSIBLY A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY CAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT A CONDITION OF ZONING, BUT IF IT WAS A PRIVATE COMMITMENT, THEN WE STILL NEED SOMEBODY TO MAKE THE PRIVATE COMMITMENT TO, IS THAT CORRECT? IF IT'S A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE TWO PARTIES INVOLVED AND RIGHT NOW THERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER PARTY. IS THAT CORRECT? CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT OTHER PARTY IS BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IT, SO I DON'T KNOW IF AUTOBAHN WANTS IT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS, BUT I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY IF WE CAN FIND ANOTHER PARTY AND, UM, AND YOU SAID, SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D BE AMENABLE TO BE LOOKING FOR BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT GETS TO COUNCIL. OKAY. AND I'LL JUST CLARIFY, I KNOW I'VE HEARD FROM, UM, THE AUDUBON SOCIETY THERE. THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE AT THIS LOCATION. UM, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TWO REALLY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY BENEFITS SIDE BY SIDE, WITH THE PRESERVED NEXT DOOR AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT HERE AT, UM, I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, BUT AGAIN, IF WE, IF WE CAN'T, IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE AND THAT'S FIXED ZONING, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE WITH THIS PROJECT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, 100% INTENSITY OF DOMESTICS. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A FEW OF THOSE PIECES AND EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN MSX WOULD LOOK TYPICALLY. CAN, CAN I STEER THE QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? MAYBE HE CAN HELP SOME INSIGHT INTO THIS WITH WHAT MAYBE HABITAT HAS DONE. MAYBE YOU CAN. SURE. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE TO INSURE INSURERS ARE SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL. BUT, UM, IN THE PAST, OR WE HAVE SAID YES TO DIFFERENT DEALS THAT SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS. AND THEN OF COURSE, BEFORE THEY'RE READING A COUNCIL, THEY WOULD FIND A PARTY THAT WOULD CREATE A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH THEM AND EXECUTE THAT BECAUSE WHILE WE PASS THINGS ON UNDERSTANDING, CERTAIN THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT'S FINISHED COUNCIL DOESN'T DO THAT. GOTCHA. OKAY. SO WE'RE, WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT PATH IF WE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, PUT THE INTENT OUT THERE FOR NOW, THEN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. GREAT. AND, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK AT THE END OF IT? IF I CAN TAKE JUST ONE, UH, SINCE WE'RE LATE ON TIME, UH, QUESTIONS FOR NAVAJO, UM, WITH THE ENGINEER ON THE [02:55:01] PROJECT. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO BE REAL QUICK ON THIS. UH, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE, UH, WAYS TO ENGINEER THE SITE TOO? UM, SUCH AS THAT A HYDROLOGICAL ENGINEER COULD, UM, CERTIFY THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE PRESERVING ALL THE FILTRATION AND, AND, UH, THAT THE PROJECT WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IMPACT THE SPRINGS. THIS IS THAT, UM, I THINK THERE SOME DESIGN, UH, UH, BEST PRACTICE THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE. UH, I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT LIKE HEAVY TESTING AND MONITORING, UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE EFFECT IS CONTRIBUTED TO A SPECIFIC SOURCE, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY AGREE TO BEST PRACTICE SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT PONDS ON AWAY FROM THE SPRING AND THIS SITE, OR A LOWER DOWNGRADING, AND THEN THE SORT OF THE POND THAT'S ON THE NATURAL PRESERVE. SO WE'RE PUT AWAY FROM THE SPRING WE PUT ENGINE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN EVEN GO AS FAR AS CONSIDERING LINER UNDER CERTAIN PONDS IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE INFILTRATION AREA. UH, AGAIN, ALL OF THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CODE. UH, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT COMES DOWN TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT. GREAT. UM, SO, UH, I WOULD JUST SUGGEST TO THE PARTIES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS CASE MOVE ALONG. IT'S A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EXACTLY WHERE WE WANT IT ON A TRANSIT LINE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE CASE DELAYED. UM, BUT I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THAT YOU GUYS COULD GET WITH THE AUDUBON SOCIETY AND, UM, COME UP WITH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT RELATED TO THE SPRINGS SPECIFICALLY AND THE WATER CONTROLS ON THE SITE AND, UM, AND, AND FIND, UH, SOME WAY TO, TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT, UM, THAT, UH, THAT SATISFIES THEM, THAT, THAT ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO THAT ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE THEN REQUIRED TO DO. SO MAYBE, MAYBE NOT ON THE, IN THE ACTUAL OUTCOME THAT REQUIRE TESTING, BUT IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, AS YOU SUGGESTED, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT DO BETTER AT COUNCIL IF YOU HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN HAND, UM, BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THEM. UM, AND THEN, UH, MY QUESTION, UH, FOR, I THINK MS HASI IS, UM, SO THIS IS ON A P UH, TRANSIT CORRIDOR. UH, MY TWO, UH, ACCESSIBILITY QUESTIONS HERE ARE, UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO MAKE A BIKE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION OFF OF THE ROADWAY TO THE SOUTH? UM, WE'RE KIND OF DEAD ENDS RIGHT INTO THEIR PROPERTY, UH, THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY DECREASE THE WALK TIME TO MLK AND GIVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE A LOT BETTER ACCESS TO TRANSIT THAN THEY HAVE NOW. AND THEN AS WELL, DO YOU ANTICIPATE, UM, GIVING UP SOME RIGHT AWAY? I SEE IT'S SOFT SHOULDER AT THAT POINT. UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I AT LEAST WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME DEDICATED BUS LANES IN THERE BEFORE TOO LONG. UM, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOME MORE RIGHT OF WAY. SO COULD YOU SPEAK TO EITHER OF THOSE THINGS? UM, YES. SO, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUAL STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I, I DO KNOW THAT RIGHT AWAY WILL BE, WILL BE REQUIRED FOR DEDICATION. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR THAT COMMENT IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMMENTS OF THE STAFF REPORT. UM, LET'S SEE. UH, SO THE SMP, UH, CALLS FOR 120 FEET RIGHT AWAY, UH, FOR EAST MLK BOULEVARD, IT'S RECOMMENDED AT 60 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY FROM THE EXISTING CENTER LINE SHOULD BE DEDICATED. OH, OKAY. SO THAT'S WAY MORE. IS THERE NOW? OKAY, GREAT. UM, WELL THAT'S GOOD. UM, I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT'LL BE WILLED DOWN, BUT THAT'S, UH, THAT'D BE MORE THAN ENOUGH. PLANNING AND ZONING. THAT IS NOT ADDITIONAL BIWEEKLY IT'S TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY. SO THEY'RE NOT BEING REQUESTED TO GIVE AN ADDITIONAL 50 FEET, RIGHT? YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU MAYBE GOT MAYBE 60 FEET THERE RIGHT NOW. SO A ADDITIONAL 60 WOULD BE GREAT. AND THEN, UM, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, UH, THE FOLKS THAT WE TALKED TO FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TONIGHT, UM, SOME CONNECTIVITY THERE COULD DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE'S, UH, ACCESS TO THE TRANSLATOR AND I'M OKAY AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY THE PRESERVE. UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FORESEE BEING ABLE TO DO? ABSOLUTELY. UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE'VE TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SOMETIME AGO. UM, AND, UM, WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THE AUDUBON SOCIETY AS WELL ABOUT IF IT WOULD BENEFIT THEM, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ALSO HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY FROM THIS SITE TO THEIR PRESERVE. BUT I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DECIDED WOULDN'T BE BEST. UM, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, UH, BETWEEN STONE GATE AND MLK WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT ANY OF THE RESIDENTS THERE THAT WANT TO WANT TO TAKE A BUS AND, AND, AND COULD ACTUALLY BENEFIT EVEN FURTHER BEYOND THAT, TO THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALONG HEFLIN LANE AS WELL. [03:00:01] SO IT, IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. YEAH. I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT OTHER ONE THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE, AND IF YOU COULD CONNECT MLK DOWN TO STONE GATE AND THEN STONE GATE DOWN TO, UM, HEFLIN THERE, UH, YOU WOULD JUST BE MAKING LIFE A HECK OF A LOT EASIER FOR A TON OF PEOPLE AROUND THERE TO RIDE THE BUS TO WORK. SO, UM, I HEARD DELTA TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. UM, I THINK THAT IS THE END OF OUR ROUND ROBIN. UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, NO, WE WE'VE. UH, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'RE BEYOND QUESTIONS. YEAH. I'LL SPEAK TO THIS AT SOME POINT THEN I'D LIKE TO START WITH A STAFF PROPOSAL. THREE IS EMOTION, I, OR SEE A SECOND SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. UM, MR. SHAW, DO YOU WANNA TO YOUR MOTION? UH, YES. UM, SO AGAIN, JUST, UH, ECHOING, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS, UH, DURING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TIME, IT IS ON A TRANSPORTATION PRIOR TO NETWORK THAT THESE ARE VULNERABLE AREAS. AND I THINK WE WERE ASKED TO KIND OF LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY ALONG THESE, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, TPN. AND SO I THINK IS KIND OF A, A GOOD INCREMENTAL JUMP FROM WHAT WAS THAT'S AT THREE, AND ALSO BEING NEAR THIS PRESERVE. IT ADDS ANOTHER LEVEL OF, UH, JUSTIFICATION FOR, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO MSX AND ALSO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. IT'S JUST REALLY, UM, IT'S A BIG JOB AND I THINK IT WOULD IMPOSE, UM, UH, SOME IMPACTS ON THAT, UM, SPRAYING AND ON THE, UH, THE, UH, THE AREA THERE, THE PRESERVE. SO IF IT WAS RAISED AS I THINK STAFF HAVE MADE THE RIGHT CALL, UH, THE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE APPLICANT SEEMS TO BE GOING, BUT WE JUST, UH, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I THINK, UH, IS THE RIGHT CALL FOR THIS, UH, ZONE NEW CHANGE. SURE, SURE. I ANDERSON I CAN MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. GO AHEAD. THAT WE GO FOR NF SIX AS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING. OH, THE SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. UM, COMMISSIONER, SOME OF YOU SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION LIGHT TOO. YEAH. SO, UM, YEAH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS HERE IS UNIT COUNT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TALKING TO THE DIFFERENCE OF 200 HOMES VERSUS 70 HOMES. WE'RE TALKING TO DIFFERENCE OF A HUNDRED MARKET RATE HOMES OR 35. WE'RE TALKING TO A DIFFERENCE OF A HUNDRED AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR 35. THIS IS A GREAT SPOT FOR HOUSING. UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WANT TO CONSIDER A HEIGHT LIMIT, YOU KNOW, PULLING BACK THAT LIMIT. SOME, I THINK IN A SIX GOES TO 60 OR 90 FEET, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE LOOK TO DO. AND I'LL LOOK FOR THAT. UM, OR ACTUALLY I'LL GO AHEAD AND THROW IT OUT THERE. LET'S HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO A HIGH CAP OF 60 FEET? ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. OKAY. AND IF WE NEED TO SPEAK TO THAT, WE CAN BUMP THAT UP. UM, SO ONE BIG THING HERE IS MANAGEMENT. SO WE HAVE A RENTAL COMMUNITY, UM, TRYING TO HAVE ONSITE MANAGEMENT FOR 70 RENTAL HOMES. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. THERE'S A, THERE'S A KIND OF A SWEET SPOT FOR THAT AND THAT'S 200 TO 300 HOMES. AND SO THE COST IS GOING TO BE ROUGHLY THE SAME TO MANAGE A 200 MINUTE BUILDING. AS FAR AS OVERHEAD OF ACTUAL STAFF, IS IT, THERE'S 70 UNITS TO HARD COSTS GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOTHING HERE AND THERE. SO, UM, THAT'S A BIG PART OF THIS. AND I WOULD ALSO HOPE THAT BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, THAT THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THEIR DOWNSTAIRS IS GOING TO BE AND THEY ADHERE TO DARK SKIES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT, UM, THE LAST THING IMPERVIOUS COVER, AND IT'S A DIFFERENCE OF 15% IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT IT'S DIFFERENCE OF 130 HOMES. AND ALSO JUST A BIG, NO BRAINER FOR ME. SO EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL ON THE MOTION, MR. SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD. SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE BENEFIT THAT, UH, MF SIX WOULD BRING IN TERMS OF, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I, UH, AND OF COURSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND THEY'RE ALSO THE THINGS AROUND WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. THEY'RE THE BUSINESSES THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THERE'S TRANSIT, BUT VERY FEW NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE AN ASSET LIKE THE AUDUBON PRESERVE NEXT DOOR. AND, UH, I, IT GIVES ME PAUSE THAT THERE'S CONCERN [03:05:01] ON THE PART OF THE AUDUBON SOCIETY AT THE DENSITY OF MF SEX. I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE AND LIKELY SUPPORT IF THERE WERE SOME SORT OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN PLACE OR SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT WITH AUDUBON THAT HELPED GUIDE WHAT WILL ACTUALLY BE BUILT ON THE SITE AND MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE SPRINGS. BUT UNTIL I HAVE SOME ASSURANCE THAT THAT'S THE CASE, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. I WON'T, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE. NO, BUT I WILL NOT VOTE IN FAVOR, MR. WISHING TO SPEAK FOR MR. HOWARD. I WANT TO A COMMISSIONER HOWARD. OKAY. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW THIS IS CHALLENGING. I THINK, UM, THE CITY, AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY IS IMMINENT AND WELL IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE'RE ALL FACED WITH TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT HOW WE, HOW WE ACCOMMODATE ALL THE GROWTH. AND I THINK IN LIGHT OF THAT AND THE IDEA THAT THERE IS QUITE A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THINGS DIFFERENTLY. AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERNS ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THOSE THINGS. AND I THINK THIS IS IDEALLY WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE A FORMAL, VERY DIFFICULT TO SUGGEST. OTHERWISE I CAN'T, I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS, BUT THIS IS WHAT ALL THE PLANS THAT WE SPEAK TO. AND WE SUPPORTED IN GENERAL TALK ABOUT WHERE YOU WANT TO PLACE HOUSING. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS. SO I WILL DEFINITELY BE SUPPORTING THIS. CAN I JUST MAKE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? I THINK, ON, ON WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION TO BE, AND THAT IS TO DO RECOMMEND APPLICANT'S REQUEST WITH A SORT OF 60 FOOT LIMIT ON HEIGHT, BUT ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT BY COUNSEL, BY THIRD READING OF COUNCIL, THEY WILL HAVE A, A, AN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH SOMEBODY THAT WILL TALK TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE DARK SKIES, THE, THE TREATMENT OF THE NEARBY RESERVE AND MITIGATING FACTORS FOR THAT. SO IN TERMS OF, WE'RE NOT SUPPORTING IT AS IT IS NOW, WE'RE SUPPORTING IT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS IN PLACE BEFORE. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS AS WELL AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UH, RIGHT. UM, SO I'VE BEEN ADVISED AND IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, OUR OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATIONS CAN, ARE LIMITED TO ZONING AND CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS, UM, THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, BUT WE CAN'T RECOMMEND THEM. UH, UH, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS CAN'T SAY THAT IF THAT WAS IN PLACE AT THE TIME BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND. I THINK, UM, WHAT WE CAN ASK, UH, MS. CHAFFIN TO DO IS TO REFLECT, UH, IN THE WRITEUP, UM, THAT, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS RECOMMENDATIONS THERE TO, UH, TO EXPLORE, UM, THAT RESTRICT THOSE KINDS OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, BUT THAT, UM, IT'S JUST NOT PART OF OUR OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION, HEATHER TRAVELING, PLANNING, AND SENDING YES. IN THESE CASES, WE COULD BE OFFICIAL RECOMMENDATION WITH A NOTE OF, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION ENCOURAGES THESE OTHER ITEMS. OKAY. SO, AND MS. CHAFFIN, DO YOU FEEL THAT IF THIS MOTION WERE TO PASS, THAT THERE HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT RELATED TO THE, UH, THE WATER ISSUES HERE? SO TO NOTE IN THE CASE FILE, RIGHT. UM, I AM NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE SPRING ASPECT OF IT, THE OVERALL DRAINAGE AND FLOODING. I FEEL CONFIDENT BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT IS REVIEWED AT TIME OF FLIGHT PLAN. AND AGAIN, AT TON OF SITE PLAN, YOU CANNOT, UM, INCREASE OFFSITE DRAINAGE ISSUES. YOU CAN ONLY HANDLE WITH YOUR DRAINAGE OR MAKE IT BETTER, BUT SPRAYING, UH, I GUESS MY DIRECT QUESTION HERE IS, IS THAT, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH DISCUSSION HERE, UH, REGARDING, UH, REACHING AN AGREEMENT WITH THE AUDUBON SOCIETY REGARDING WATER ISSUES THAT YOU CAN NOTE IT IN THE, UH, IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE PC RECOMMENDATION? [03:10:04] WELL, AGAIN, AUDUBON SUPPORTED, SUPPORTED DESIGNATION. I CAN STILL PLACE IT AS A PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION THAT THE TWO PARTIES CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS JUST TO KNOW THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE NOTED. RIGHT, RIGHT. THANK YOU, MS. SHEVLIN. UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION ON THAT. YEAH. YOU'RE THOMPSON, ARE YOU SATISFIED TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY? OKAY, GREAT. UM, WE STILL HAVE TWO SPEAKING OPPOSITION OR NEUTRAL PULIDO. I'M SORRY. KOSHER. SHAY, WERE YOU SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OR NEUTRAL? NO. SORRY. UM, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MENTIONED, AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS CAPTURED IN HIS MOTION, BUT HE SAID IT'S SECONDARY. IT WAS THE, IT WAS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT ABOUT IDENTIFYING A SECOND PARTY THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ENTER THAT IN ORDER TO MEMORIALIZE. YES. THIS IS WHERE ANDREW FREAKS OUT ABOUT US TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OUR RECOMMENDATION DUE TO STATE LAW, ACTUALLY. UM, WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH HEARING COMMISSIONERS, SO I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. ALRIGHT. SO CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY. SO, SO I WANTED, CAUSE I'M COMMISSIONER, HOLD ON. UH, I HAVE COMMISSIONER YANNIS LINED UP TO SPEAK AGAINST, UH, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST. THAT'S FINE. BUT IF IT'S A CONFUSION, BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS. SO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MENTIONED IT. WASN'T JUST ABOUT THE CREEKS AND SUCH, BUT YOU SAID ALSO ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT. SO THAT WASN'T PART OF MOTION. THE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON MENTIONED IT. SO IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD SAY THAT AGAIN, THE NOTION ABOUT THE TYPE OF SHIFT OF COVENANT, THEN AT LEAST I'D UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PICTURE. CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF DISJOINTED. SURE, SURE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IS THAT THE MOTION IS FOR A WITH A 60 FOOT HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE MF THREE HEIGHT. AND THAT WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH MS. CHAFFIN, THAT THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS REGARDING THE WATER SHOES. THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE REFLECTED IN HER WRITEUP OF THE EPC DISCUSSION. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT IT DIDN'T CAPTURE THE AFFORDABILITY, UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY. AND THAT ONUS IS ON THE APPLICANT. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A PART OF THIS, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE IT. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND WE'VE DONE THIS SIMILAR THING. WHY IT'S RECOMMENDED JUST LIKE, I MEAN, JUST LIKE ANY PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT, IT'S NOT PART OF REQUIREMENT IT'S JUST RECOMMENDED. SO WE COULD STILL RECOMMEND THAT AS PART OF YOUR EMOTION, BUT JUST LIKE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OF THE WATER IS WHAT I'M SAYING, MAKE IT EQUAL. WE NEED BOTH OF THEM SCRATCH. THE FEEDBACK THAT I'M GETTING FROM STAFF IS THAT THE OFFICIAL PC RECOMMENDATION IS FOR ZONING WITH CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS, BUT THAT THERE ARE OFTENTIMES NOTATIONS ABOUT OUR DISCUSSION REFERRING TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS A BATTLE WE'VE HAD WITH CITY LEGAL FOR YEARS NOW. IT'D BE SO AMAZING IF CITY LABEL COULD JUST FIGURE OUT A WAY WHERE THE CITY COULD DO THIS AND THE CITY COULD BE THE PARTY OF THIS, BUT THE CITY WANTS NO PART OF THIS. SO MAYBE THAT'S JUST AN ISSUE WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE CITY'S TRYING TO ADHERE TO THAT. IT'S A BIG CONVERSATION THAT THANKFULLY USUALLY DOES GET WORKED OUT BEFORE THIRD READING, OTHERWISE COUNCIL. RIGHT. OKAY. YOU'RE STILL NEEDED TO FIND IT. UM, I AM, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL EMOTION AND NOT THIS MOTION, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. AND I, THE REASON IS, IS VERY MUCH BECAUSE OF THE PRESERVE AND BECAUSE OF MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY THAT THE COLORADO RIVER WINES UNDERNEATH US, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN AND FEEDS DIFFERENT SPRINGS AND THE WAYS THAT DEVELOPMENT IMPACTS THAT, AND ALSO IMPACTS THE URBAN CANOPY. AND I, I SAY THAT BECAUSE EAST AUSTIN HASN'T HAD A LOT OF ATTENTION TO IT'S SPRINGS AND ITS LAST CHUNKS OF URBAN CANOPY, ESPECIALLY ALONG AIRPORT BOULEVARD, ESPECIALLY ALONG, UM, THESE KINDS OF CORRIDORS, UH, THAT SPRINGS AN EX WATCHING THE WAY OAK SPRINGS HAS CHANGED WITH DEVELOPMENT NEARBY. AND I JUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT, I AM IN NO UNDER NO ILLUSION THAT WE ARE NOT GROWING. I KNOW THERE IS A NEED FOR HOUSING. AND I KNOW THERE IS A DESIRE TO GET THE MAX AMOUNT OF UNITS AND THE MAX EFFICIENCY, BUT THAT DOES COME WITH A CROSS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING ON ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS. AND AS THAT YOU CAN NEVER GET BACK. UM, AND WHILE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE [03:15:01] WHO MIGHT SAY THAT HOUSING IS A BIG THREE IN THE EASTERN CRESCENT. I KNOW MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE OF THE EASTERN CRESCENT WHO STRONGLY DISAGREE DON'T FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD LOSE HOUSING AND GREEN SPACE OR TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SOME AND NEED HOUSING AND AS CRITICAL A NEED OF PROTECTION AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT GREENSPACE AND WILDLIFE OFFER. UNFORTUNATELY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN'T JUST PICK AND CHOOSE. UM, WE COULD SAY THAT HAVING THESE MORE UNITS, YEAH. IT COULD POTENTIALLY HYPOTHETICALLY THEORETICALLY DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER ELSEWHERE, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONCENTRATING IT ALL ON ONE SITE AND UNFORTUNATELY THE NATURAL LAWS OF YOUR BILL OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, DON'T OBSERVE PROPERTY LINES, THEY ARE IMPACTED BY INTENSE DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK DEVELOPMENT IS PORT IMPORTANT. UNITS ARE IMPORTANT. AFFORDABILITY IS IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF SCHEDULE AND I BELIEVE BUILDING 200 UNITS ON THIS SITE WOULD CHANGE THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T GET BACK. UM, YOU CAN ALWAYS BUILD MORE HOUSING, BUT YOU CAN'T GET BACK A PRESERVE ONCE IT'S GONE. SO I SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL EMOTION I'M AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD SPEAK FOR THE MOTION UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK OTHERWISE. OKAY. UM, SO I SPENT SOME TIME WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS CASE AND, UM, UH, MY FIRST REACTION WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, CAN WE WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH AUDUBON AND, AND FIND A WAY THAT THIS WILL GET GOOD FOR THEM. AND, UM, THE, UH, W FROM THE ONE SIDE THAT, THAT I HEARD WAS, WAS THAT, UM, THEY'RE THERE THE APPLICANT'S OPINION, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO, TO MITIGATE THE INCREASE OF IMPERVIOUS COVER WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 65 IMPERVIOUS COVER AND 80. SO IT'S A 15 POINT DIFFERENCE IN THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, BUT THAT, UM, I AUDUBON JUST DIDN'T SEEM THAT INTERESTED IN AND MAYBE WORKING WITH THEM. AND THAT COULD BE JUST ONE SIDE OF THE STORY, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SURE. UM, AND, UH, SO I DO THINK THAT A RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS CASE MIGHT HELP BRING THE PARTIES TO THE TABLE. CAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASY TO DO IT AT COUNCIL WITHOUT IT, AND HOPEFULLY THIS COULD FACILITATE THAT. UM, BUT THEN THE REAL BIG KICKER IS, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT ANALYSIS OF THE, OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS. THIS BRINGS IT FROM 200 DOWN TO 65, UM, BECAUSE OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND, UM, IT PROBABLY ELIMINATES ALL OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT'S SAYING. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, GOSPEL, BUT, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND THIS MOTION, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO MF SIX IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THIS PRESERVE, AND THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, 70 NEW, UH, 70 FAMILIES HAVE, UM, I'M SORRY, A HUNDRED FAMILIES HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT ON TRANSIT. AND, UH, THE CITY HAS JUST GROWN EAST. THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE FRINGES. YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT ALREADY, UH, THAT TO ME SAYS, THERE'S A STRONG CASE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND MF SIX, TRY AND BRING THE PARTIES TO THE TABLE ON THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. AND, UM, LET'S PRESERVE THE, UH, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND ON IT. UM, CAN I HAVE A CERTIFICATION CHAIR? YES, I'M SORRY. I HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT NUMBERS. SO I WAS HEARING, IT WAS FROM 200 UNITS THEN TO 75 OR TO 70, AND THEN AFFORDABLE UNITS FROM A HUNDRED TO 35. AND NOW I'M HEARING 65 TOTAL UNITS WITH MF THREE WITH NO AFFORDABLE UNITS. SO CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION, THE ANALYSIS, RIGHT. I MEAN, SO, YOU KNOW, MARKET RATE SUBSIDIZED AFFORDABLE, RIGHT. AND, UM, SO THE, MY UNDERSTANDING AND WHAT WE WENT OVER WAS THAT THEIR CLIENT WAS SAYING THAT A 50, 50 SPLIT WASN'T FEASIBLE WITH A MUCH LOWER UNIT COUNT. SO IT WASN'T GOING TO BE 50% OF 70 UNITS ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JUST SEVEN UNITS TO GET THE SMART HOUSING AT, THEY STILL WANT TO GO FOR THAT. OR, OR MAYBE IT'S NOTHING. UM, I MEAN, SMART HOUSING ONLY REQUIRES 10%. SO, UM, CLARIFY THE 50% ON THE 200 UNITS THOUGH, WOULD NOT BE MARKET RATE SUBSIDIZED. THAT HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF, IS THIS NOT LIKE AFFORDABILITY ON WHAT THIS IS SOME KIND OF THAT DOES, I'M SURE THEY'RE GETTING SOME SORT OF TAX CREDIT DEAL. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THAT'S CONTINGENT ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THAT'S WHAT THEIR CLIENT IS SAYING. [03:20:01] I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT. SO I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE, WE'VE HAD THE SPEAKERS, WE NEED THAT. WE NEED TO CLOSE THIS OUT. UM, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, UH, AGAINST OUR NEUTRAL, IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK MR. SHAW, YOU RAISED YOUR HAND FIRST, BUT DIDN'T YOU ALREADY SPEAK ON THIS OR AM I IMAGINING THINGS AND, BUT YOU AREN'T MUTED, SO YOU CAN'T SPEAK ANYWAY, THIS WAS THE PICKIEST MOTION. MOTION. YEAH. BUT I'LL LET, UH, UM, SOMEBODY ELSE. NO, SHE WANTS ME TO DO IT. SO, UM, JUST WHILE I'M AGAINST, SO, UH, YOU HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING. EVERYBODY'S SITTING HERE COUNTING THE NUMBERS AND WE ALL HAVE IT. WE HAVE NOTHING. SO WHY ARE WE ACTING LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET IT, WE'RE VOTING NSX. AND WE'LL, YOU'VE GOT TO ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO GET NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND YOU'RE GET, YOU GOT TO ASSUME THAT WHEN YOU GIVE THIS AWAY. SO, UM, I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN WE'RE ACTING LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THESE PROTECTIONS. THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THEIR HOMEWORK AND WORKED WITH THE AUDUBON SOCIETY AND ALREADY COME OUT WITH RC FOR PROTECTING THAT ALL THIS WE'RE ADDING LITTLE NOTES TO OUR MOTION THAT DOES NOTHING. THEY SHOULD HAVE COME TO US WITH FARM AGREEMENTS. UH, WHAT I MEAN, JUST CAUSE WE HAD LITTLE NOTES AND PASSING ON TO COUNCIL. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING OUT OF THAT. I MEAN, THIS KIND OF, I MEAN, WE'RE KIND OF MAKING OURSELVES FEEL BETTER, BUT WE HAVE TO ASSUME WE'LL GET NOTHING, BUT NO PROTECTION, NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN YOU VOTE FOR ENDO SIX. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING. OKAY. THANKS. ALRIGHT. GOOD COMMISSIONERS. THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. UM, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS FOR A MF SIX WITH A 60 FOOT CAP IN THE CEO, ALL IN FAVOR GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, ALL OPPOSED RED. WELL, TWO, THREE, AND I'M ABSTAINING TWO, UH, SIX, THREE, TWO. YUP. UH, AND THAT IS NOT A SUFFICIENT VOTES TO PASS THE MOTION. SO WE ARE BACK TO THE BASE MOTION OF STAFF, RECOMMENDATION OF MFD. UM, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WE CAN, THE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, ANY COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL ON THE MOTION? OH, COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF SHOW YOUR GREEN TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, ALL OPPOSED. THREE AND ALL ABSTAINING. UH, NONE. SO EIGHT, THREE. SO THE MOTION PASSES FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MOVING ON. NOT DONE YET. AND JUST A REMINDER, I'M IN 22 MINUTES OR SO WE'LL NEED TO TAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND IF THAT'S WHAT WE WISH TO DO. I'M JUST LOOKING AT OUR CASES. WE HAVE A 1,509 AND FIELDS. UM, WE HAVE FIVE OH EIGHT KENT STREET. WE HAVE, UM, THE, UH, 53 13 VEGA AVENUE B 26, AND THOSE ARE OUR DISCUSSION CASES. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE NON CASE ITEMS WILL BE FAIRLY QUICK. SO LET'S MOVE ON, UM, 1509 AND FIELD ROAD, ITEM B 13. UM, DO WE HAVE MARK GRAHAM ON THE LINE FOR STAFF? THIS IS MARK GRAHAM FOR PLANNING AND ZONING. YEAH, GO AHEAD. OKAY. THE APPLICANT REQUEST IN KC 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR EIGHT IS TO RESELL THE PROPERTY FROM MS. THREE N P S THE MULTIFAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY TO NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, OFFICE MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. OKAY. LOCATIONS IS ON, UH, ENFIELD, WHICH IS A, UM, AN, A MINOR ARTERIAL OR 11 THREE CLASSES STREET, UM, FOUR LANE, UH, CONNECTING BETWEEN, UM, LAMAR AND MOPAC AND THEN ON TO THE LAKE. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REVIEWED THIS AND THEIR LETTERS IN THE FILE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTING THIS. UM, THEY ARE PART OF THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, [03:25:01] AN OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, PICTURES INFIELD AS PART OF THEIR CORE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND, UM, THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING BUT RESIDENTIAL ALONG IN FIELD. THERE WERE HOWEVER, UM, TWO INSTANCES OF REZONING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ON INFIELD. ONE STILL EXISTS. TWO DOORS AWAY ON THE CORNER OF MARSHALL AND ENFIELD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, SAME SIZE AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, UM, WAS PREVIOUSLY ZONED. AND, UH, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES ARE OWNED BY THE SAME OWNER AND THEY MADE US STROP OF ZONING AT SOME TIME BACK. AND THEN WE SENT HIM THE, UH, 1503 AND FIELD BACK TO MF THREE AT ANY RATE. THE PROPOSAL IN THIS CASE IS FOR A SMALL BUSINESS, A FAMILY OWNED HOME BUILDER AND MOTIVATOR, UH, NALI BROTHERS TO, UM, OCCUPY THE BUILDING, RESTORE THE BUILDING. UM, THEY CONFERRED WITH STAFF BEFORE THEY COMPLETED THE APPLICATION. STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY INCLUDE THE MUA ZONING SO THAT THE, UM, SITE COULD BE RESIDENTIAL IF, UM, THEY MOVED ON TO SOME OTHER LOCATION AT SOME POINT, UM, OR IT COULD BE A MIX OF USES AT THAT LOCATION, UH, WITH THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF LOTS SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, 2,400, UH, APPROXIMATELY SQUARE FOOT LOT WOULD ONLY SUPPORT A COUPLE OF UNITS. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL UNITS BEHIND THIS PROPERTY. SO COMPATIBILITY WOULD LIMIT THEM AND HEIGHT, UH, TO, UM, APPROXIMATELY TWO STORIES. AND, UM, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ANY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF UNITS THERE AS A RESULT. UM, THE, UM, IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, UM, WAS ONE SOURCE THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR SUPPORT. UM, THE CORRIDORS ARE, ARE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE CURRENT COMP PLAN AND DENSIFYING AND INTENSIFYING AND USING MIXED USE TO ACHIEVE THE WALKABLE LIVABLE STREETS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT YOU DO WITH INFILL SITES. UM, THIS SITE IS FOR SALE. THE SITE NEXT DOOR IS VACANT. UM, IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS SOME PROBLEM WITH KEEPING, UH, THE MF THREE IN THIS LOCATION. UM, MOVING ON TO THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT CODE ALSO HAS SIGNIFICANT LANGUAGE ABOUT USING MIXED USE, UM, TO, UM, ACHIEVE CERTAIN GOALS. AND THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN IN A PROVIDED SOME OF THOSE IN THE STAFF REPORT. UM, IN FAIRNESS I WANT TO, UH, COMMENT WAS WE HAVE ALLOWED FOR A MIXED USE IN AREAS THAT WERE COMMERCIALLY SOUND AT THE TIME THAT THEY ADOPTED A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND THEY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE PEOPLE LOOKING TO, TO PUT A BUSINESS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK TO THOSE AREAS. UM, NEVERTHELESS, WE, WE TAKE THE APPLICATION AS WE GET THEM. AND, UM, STAFF LOOKED AT IT, WE SAY, INFIELD IS AT BUS ROUTE. IT IS A BIKE ROUTE. SO THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES THERE. UH, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES AND IT'S, UH, A CONNECTION TO, TO, UM, MAJOR, UH, STREETS, UH, MOPAC END AND LAMAR, WHICH IS AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR. AND, UM, THIS, THE STREET MAY HAVE THE ABILITY, THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, UM, WITHOUT, UH, EXCEEDING THE 2000 TRIPS THAT THE LAND CODE LOOKS AT AS A THRESHOLD. UM, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES HAD CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ON THEM THAT ELIMINATE MOST OF THE USES THAT WERE PERMITTED. UM, THEY ELIMINATED 11 USES, UM, ON THE ONE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. THE APPLICANT APPROACHED THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THAT IN MIND THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO ACCEPT SOME LIMITS ON NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, WAS NOT, UM, WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT. UM, LET'S SEE THE, I THINK THAT COVERS THE BULK OF MY COMMENTS. UM, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, ALAN BERRY HILL, DO WE HAVE, I'M SORRY. UH, LAILA NELSON. WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE. YES, SIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY [03:30:01] ON THE LINE, AS WE GET INTO THIS, UM, STAR SIX, UNMUTES YOU, UM, I BELIEVE YOU'RE ALL MUTED BY DEFAULT, UH, AND IF YOU COULD STAY MUTED UNTIL IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SPEAK, AND IF YOU'RE WATCHING ON THE INTERNET OR THE TELEVISION AND YOU GET CALLED, UH, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN THAT DOWN BECAUSE THERE IS A DELAY. GO AHEAD. UH, LAILA NELSON, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. QUICK QUESTION HERE. UM, HOW DO I MEET MYSELF AGAIN AT, UM, SIX? WE'LL MEET YOU AGAIN. OKAY, GREAT. AND DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? NO, I REALLY DOUBT WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR BACKUP IS, IS REALLY IT, UM, MARCH MARK COVERED. YEAH. THIS IS GOING TO, UM, THIS IS GOING TO GO QUICKLY. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO, UM, FOR, FOR OUR CITY. IT'S JUST, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT SACRIFICE AND, AND WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. SO GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS LAILA NELSON. I'M THE OWNER OF ATX PERMIT AND CONSULTING. I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN SINCE THE LATE SEVENTIES. I MOVED TO AUSTIN THE YEAR EARL CAMPBELL WON THE HEISMAN TROPHY. SO I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED AND LIVED THROUGH THE DRAMATIC CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN OUR GREAT CITY OF AUSTIN. TONIGHT. I REPRESENT THE HONOR OF 1509 INFIELD MR. ALLEN BARRY HILL. THE PROPERTY IS UNDER CONTRACT TO BE PURCHASED BY THE NALE FAMILY, CUSTOM HOME BUILDERS, MR. BERRYHILL, JESSE DALI. AND I BELIEVE ONE OF THE REAL ESTATE BROKERS ARE WITH ME TONIGHT, UH, TO MAKE SOME STATEMENTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE CONTACT TEAM FOR THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH. AND EVEN THOUGH WE MAY BE ON OPPOSITE SIDES, IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE TO WORK THROUGH THIS PART OF THE PROCESS WITH THEM. AS YOU ARE AWARE, WE ARE REQUESTING REZONING FROM MS THREE AND P TO N O M U AND P. THIS WOULD ALLOW AN OFFICE USE FOR THE NABI HOME BUILDING COMPANY, WHICH WILL BE HOME BASED FOR THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, THEIR EXISTING OFFICE ON HIGHWAY 71 WILL BE RETAINED FOR PART OF THE BUSINESS. AN INFILL OFFICE ALLOWS THE TEAM TO WORK CLOSER TO PROJECTS IN CENTRAL AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND AS MUCH CLOSER TO AT LEAST TWO FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVE CLOSE BY, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM OWEN NALI TO THE NEIGHBORS AND YOUR BACKUP. IT SPEAKS TO THE CONCERN THAT CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT WERE ABSOLUTELY NOT BEYOND THE PROPERTY. THAT WAS A CONCERN BECAUSE I VIEWED A HOME BUILDING COMPANY AS A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND THIS CASE IT'S, UH, UH, THE, THE, UH, PROPOSED PROJECT WILL NOT BE USED FOR ANY SORT OF CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT. WE'LL IMAGINE THAT IN O M U ZONING FULFILLS ARTICLE FOUR OF THE CURRENT LDC BY SERVING TWO COMPACT AND COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THOSE ZONING BY DEFINITION SERVICES, BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY, AND MAYBE LOCATED WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL CORE INTO IS THE NORTH LIMITS. AS I RESIDENTIAL CORE, WE BELIEVE THAT ZONING PROVIDES A TRANSITION WHILE IT CONTINUES TO SUSTAIN THE PRESENCE OF RESIDENTIAL USE IN THIS MANNER AND ALLOWS FOR LIVE WORK ENVIRONMENT, WHICH WE'VE ALL BEEN DOING LATELY AND IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE. THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION AS TO IS INFILL IS A BOUNDARY ROAD. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL BARBARA ARTERIAL THAT FEEDS AN ACTIVITY CENTER ROAD NORTH LAMAR. IN FACT, INFIELD IS AN URBAN ROADWAY TO, AND FROM MOPAC 35. SIRI GUIDED ME TO TAKE INFILL FROM MY NORTHWEST AUSTIN OFFICE TO EAST 12TH STREET. JUST LAST, WE ALL DRIVE IT AND WE ALL ENJOY AND FILL LOAD UNTIL AS A BOUNDARY IS MORE CLEARLY ILLUSTRATED IN MY EARLY ATTEMPTS TO ENGAGE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. A LOT OF REPRESENTATIVES SAID THE PROPERTY WAS NOT IN THERE. I'VE HEARD ASSOCIATION AND DIRECTED ME TO MR. BILL DORMAN WITH OLD INCOME, BOTH SAID WHO'S IN A, IS ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND ALANA IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO WHICH THEY EVENTUALLY AGREED. SO IT IS A BOUNDARY AND MORE THAN ONE WAY DRILLING DOWN INTO THE CASE ISSUES NOTED SAUDI OPPOSITION. WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY TRAFFIC PARKING, EVEN A DRAINAGE ISSUE. TRAFFIC WILL BE LESS THAN THE PRESENT USE, WHICH HAS BEEN NOTED UP TO FROM EIGHT TO 10 MILLION STUDENTS IN THAT, ON THAT STRUCTURE, PARKING WILL BE LESS THAN THE PRESENT USE, REGARDLESS OF DRAINAGE ISSUE. WE DID LOOK INTO THAT. THE OWNER WAS NOT AWARE I WAS PERPLEXED BECAUSE THERE IS AN ALLEY DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY. THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT CALLED OUT SAID THAT HE WOULD PROVIDE FURTHER DOCUMENTATION. WE HOPE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR REGARDING THIS ISSUE REGARDING THE EXISTING ZONING, AS A PRECEDENT MARK, UH, SPOKE TO THAT. SO, UH, I WON'T GO INTO IT ANY FURTHER, BUT IN MY VIEW, THERE'S TWO PRECEDENTS FOR ZONING. ONE WAS 1503, [03:35:01] WHICH WAS, IT WAS, WAS, UH, AN HOUR PRIOR TO 2010. AND THEN NOW 1501, HE WAS IN, UH, AS OF 2010 IN SUMMARY. THIS CASE SEEMS TO BE A SITUATION WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS NOT IN SYNC WITH THE CURRENT LDC. AND I WAS HER PLAN ADOPTED TWO DECADES AGO HAS NOT BEEN RATIFIED IN 20 YEARS. AUSTIN HAS CHANGED AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE PLANNING IS OUT OF DATE AND OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE GROWTH OF SUITED AUSTIN AND WHAT INFIELD DESERVES TO BE IN THOSE BEAUTIFUL ROADWAY. THERE'S A TREASURE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. IT DOES NOT BELONG SOLELY TO AND I WERE AT ASSOCIATION NCO BELONGS TO THE COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN, TEXAS, AS IT SERVES ALL OF US. WE BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE COMMON INTERESTS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE BRING LESS TRAFFIC, VERY LIKELY LESS PARKING AND RESTORATION AS AN EXISTING BUILDING. WE ARE COMMITTED TO KEEPING THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT SERVES WITH THAT. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE, UH, ALAN BERRYHILL, UH, UH, AND JUST A HEADS UP GUYS, WE HAVE THREE FOLKS REGISTERED FOR THE INFIELD, THE CASE AND, UH, OUT 10 OR SO OPPOSED. UM, SO, UH, AND THANKS TO THE RULES THAT WE PASSED THE FIRST WE'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES, WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND THEN WE'RE DOWN TO ONE MINUTE AFTER THAT. SO YES, UH, MR. RIVERA IS ASKING US TO EXTEND TILL MIDNIGHT SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP EXTENDING. I SAID THAT MIGHT BE A HARD SELL. UM, SO, UH, WHY DON'T WE SAY 11 SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GANAS, QUITO, ALL IN FAVOR OF UP YOUR GREEN, MR. CAUSEY, ARE YOU VOTING ON THIS? SHE CALLS IT US AGAINST. OKAY. UM, THAT WAS A 10, ONE OR 11 ONE AGAINST, UM, SO, [Item B13] UH, MR. BERRYHILL, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S ALAN BERRY HILL. UM, MY WIFE AND I HAVE OWNED 59 59 FIELDS SINCE 2004. AND WE MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 1979. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A, JUST A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE ON THE HOUSE ITSELF. UH, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED SOMETIME BETWEEN 1920 AND 1922 AS NUMBER 27 AND FIELD. SOME OF THE OWNERS INCLUDED WC STORY OF THE AUSTIN STATESMAN, WHICH IS NOW AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN IN THE EARLY TWENTIES. UH, ROBERT REDFORD'S GRANDPARENTS OWNED THE HOUSE. UM, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE HOUSE BEFORE US, BOTH LIVED IN THE HOUSE AND RAN A MECHANICAL CONTRACTING BUSINESS OUT OF THE HOUSE AND GARAGE. UH, THAT BUSINESS ACTUALLY DID INCLUDE LARGE TRAILERS. AND, UH, WE REMOVED A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE CONTRACTING BUSINESS. I, UH, MY WIFE AND I SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE FOR A FEW REASONS. ONE IS BEEN SPOKEN TO INFIELD ROAD IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL STREET, UH, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. AND IT'S REALLY NO LONGER A REASONABLE CONSIDERATION FOR SINGLE FAMILY, NOT NECESSARILY MULTIFAMILY, BUT SINGLE FAMILY. UH, WE HAVE RENTED THE HOUSE, UH, OVER THE 16 YEARS, WE'VE OWNED IT, UH, TWO GROUPS OF COLLEGE STUDENTS AND ALL THOSE STUDENTS OWN CARS, AS MANY AS EIGHT OF THEM. AND ALL THE CARS CAN BE EASILY PARKED ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S BEEN A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY FOR US, THAT WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE YEAR SHOULD BE EVEN BETTER AND WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY INVOLVE LESS DAYTIME TRAFFIC AND MUCH LESS OR NO EVENING OR WEEKEND TRAFFIC, WHICH IS AN ACTIVE TIME FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS. UH, WE RECOGNIZED THAT A CONTINUED INCREASING TRAFFIC ON ENFIELD IS GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE GOING FORWARD. AND FOR THAT REASON, WE SUPPORTED LAURA GODDESS. MEN'S 2010 REZONING OF THE CHILDREN'S SHELTERS PROPERTIES TO THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S THERE NOW NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY. UH, SECOND THING IS THE MARKET SPOKE TO US WHEN WE PUT THE, MY HOUSE ON THE MARKET. WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE OFFERS FOR 1509 ENFIELD, ALL OF WHICH, BUT NOT ONLY CUSTOM HOMES. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AS A LOT TO DO DEVELOP FOR MULTIFAMILY. UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN SINGLE FAMILY. AND SO BELIEVE THAT FUTURE MULTIFAMILY WOULD, MIGHT BRING INCREASED PRESSURE TO ENFIELD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ABOUT DEMOLISHING THIS HOUSE. IT'S A HUNDRED YEARS OLD NOW, AND A PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO OUR OWNERSHIP AND LIKELY CREATE MUCH LESS INGRESS AND EGRESS TRAFFIC, UM, THAN THE CURRENT, EVEN OUR CURRENT NEWS. SO, SO FINALLY, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE A A HUNDRED YEAR OLD HOUSE [03:40:01] TORN DOWN THERE IN AUSTIN, AND THERE AREN'T, THERE AREN'T THAT MANY. AND EVEN IF IT'S NOT HISTORIC IT'S, THIS ONE IS NOT, THERE ARE A FEW PROPERTIES LIKE OURS ON INFIELD ANYMORE, ALMOST ALL IN MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FITS WITH MODERN INFIELD ROAD. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH GODDESS MEN'S OFFICE AND LOT NEXT DOOR, AND, UH, IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FOURPLEX ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE ZONING CHANGE AND THE CONTINUED USE AND REFURBISHMENT OF THE HOUSE. THIS IS GOING TO SAVE THE HOUSE. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LONGTERM AUSTIN RESIDENT. I'M A BELIEVER THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO SAVE THESE HOUSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, JESSE NALI, ARE YOU THERE? JESSE KNOWLEDGE GOING ONCE GOING TWICE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JESSE AND ALL, OR I GUESS NOT HOLLY IS MOST PEOPLE SAY IT AROUND THESE NEIGHBORS. THANKS DALLAS. THANKS LEILA. UM, I GUESS I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE OF WHAT WE DO AND KIND OF LESS OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE REZONING, BUT SO WE'RE A SMALL FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS. UH, FOUR BROTHERS, WE'RE ALL PARTNERS, WE ALL OWN AND OPERATE THE BUSINESS. AND, UH, WE ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IT'S DEFINITELY IN OUR INTEREST TO TRY AND MAINTAIN THE CURRENT CHARM. AND LIKE ALAN SAID, MAINTAIN THAT HOUSE. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. UM, AND THEN WE SAW THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO GET AN OFFICE RIGHT THERE ON ENFIELD. WE JUMPED ON IT AS QUICK AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE ENFIELD. AND JUST REALLY, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, I GO TO THE PARK ON ENFIELD WITH MY FAMILY, PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR TIMES A WEEK. AND MY WIFE TAKES OUR TWO LITTLE BOYS AND THE DOGS OVER TO THE DOG PARK ON 10TH STREET OVER THERE IN CLARKSVILLE, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF TIMES A WEEK, SO I CAN GO AND FORWARD. WE, WE WOULD LOVE TO JUST BE ABLE TO, IT WOULD BE PLEASURE TO KIND OF REMODEL REVAMP, GET THAT HOME UP TO DATE AND LOOKING GOOD, BRING BACK THE OLD CHARM. SOME OF IT'S STILL THERE, BUT IT COULD DEFINITELY USE A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM US, BUT, UM, WE THAT'S BASICALLY IT, WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY. AND THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE, I THINK I COULD REALLY HELP, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LAYING WHAT WE'RE A SMALL BUSINESS. IT WOULD BE MORE OF A, A MANAGEMENT KIND OF DESIGN AND MAYBE SOME CLIENT MEETINGS WOULD BE GOING ON THERE. UM, REALLY LOW TRAFFIC. I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC THAN THE EXISTING, ESPECIALLY WITH WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT COLLEGE KIDS LIVING THERE AND HAVING FRIENDS ON WEEKENDS, WE WOULD HAVE NO TRAFFIC ON WEEKENDS OR EXTREMELY LIMITED PROBABLY TO ONE OR TWO CARS, MAYBE LIKE MID MORNING MEETINGS. BUT, UH, I GUESS THAT'S BASICALLY IT. I HOPE IF SOMEONE HAS SOME QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM, YOU KNOW, JUST TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT OUR IDEAS, BUT WE WOULD REALLY JUST LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN OFFICE THERE. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MY BROTHERS LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE WANT TO REVAMP, KEEP IT LOOKING GOOD. THE HOUSE HAS SOME GREAT CHARM UP, GET, GET THE LANDSCAPE GOING, YOU KNOW, REDO THE CIRCLE DRIVE AND, UH, HOPEFULLY JUST KEEP EVERYTHING THE WAY IT IS AND ACTUALLY BRING LESS TRAFFIC. SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE AND I HOPE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ANYONE ELSE THAT , I BELIEVE THE CHAIR HAS TO OFFER A SECOND. DO WE HAVE SHAWN ROSE ON THE LINE? SEAN ROSE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. WELL, AT THIS POINT BEING THE LAST GUY JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COVERED PRETTY WELL. UM, BUT I THINK JUST TO REITERATE THE MAIN POINTS THAT REALLY MAKE THE ZONING CHANGE MAKE SENSE ARE IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY REDUCE THE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF INCREASING TRAFFIC, UM, IT'S GOING TO KEEP AND REMODELED AS A HUNDRED YEAR OLD HISTORIC HOME VERSUS ANY OTHER BUYER IS ABSOLUTELY ANY OTHER MULTIFAMILY BUYER. INVESTOR'S GOING TO TEAR THIS DOWN AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS [03:45:01] FIND THE ONE, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO OFFER ENOUGH MONEY TO THE GUY NEXT DOOR, THE NEXT GUY, NEXT DOOR TO HIM. AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER A PRETTY GOOD SIZE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX OR CONDO WITH MANY UNITS AND MANY, MANY CARS. SO I THINK THE REAL KEY MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING AT IS THE FUTURE. EVEN IF THESE, THEY HAVE MULTIFAMILY IS GOING TO GROW, IT'S REALLY GOING TO GROW. IT'S GONNA GROW, GOING TO GROW. IT'S GOING TO GROW THE FOOTPRINT. IT'S GOING TO GROW THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE TRAFFIC, WHEREAS AN OFFICE, NONE OF THAT WILL CHANGE. IT'LL ACTUALLY GET BETTER. UM, THAT'S IT. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT OUR, OUR STANCE IS ON IT. . THANK YOU. THANKS, MR. ROSE. I'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION. UH, CHRISTINE BENDEL, ERR, IS SIGNED UP AS THE FIRST SPEAKER. THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IS CHRISTINE ON STAR SIX TO MUTE . UM, I ALSO HAVE SHEILA THE OWN DAD BARNHILL, ROY JOHNSON. SHEILA ALLEN. I DID HAVE MS. ON THE LINE. HELLO? SURE. ANYBODY HEAR ME? YES. MS. P&L WE CAN HEAR YOU. OR IS THAT YOU CHRISTINE BENDEL? THIS IS SHEILA LYON. OH, OKAY. UM, OKAY. I'M SORRY IF YOU CAN HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT. MISS MISS LYON. UH, MR. RIVERA, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING ABOUT CHRISTINE BENDEL? I DO HAVE HER ON THE LINE. OKAY. LET ME GET OFF THEN. THE STREAM VIEW AND DELL, IF YOU ARE MUTED, YOU CAN, UH, OR IF YOU ARE, UH, NOT IF YOU'RE THERE HIT STAR SIX AND THEY'LL UNMUTE YOU. HI THERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE YOU LISTED AS A PRIMARY OPPOSITION TO THIS. SO WE HAVE YOUR FIRST SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS AND CITY STAFF. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE BENDEL AND I LIVE ON MARSHALL LANE AROUND THE CORNER FROM 59 AND FIELD. I ALSO SERVE ON THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AWANA STEERING COMMITTEE. I OPPOSE THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING 59 ENFIELD AND O M U N P. THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX TWO NINE DASH ONE ZERO FIVE ON JUNE 29TH, 2000. THIS ORDINANCE ADOPTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN REQUIRES THE CITY TO FOLLOW THE PLAN AND ZONING CASES. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNDER INCREASING PRESSURE TO ACCOMMODATE COMMERCIAL USES WITHIN ITS RESIDENTIAL CORE AND IS IN CONSTANT DANGER OF BEING ERODED FROM ITS EDGES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS A ONE IS AGREED UPON GUIDE FOR PLANNING GROWTH AND PRESERVATION REZONING 1509 INFIELD TWO N O M U N P DOES NOT RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE BOUNDARY ROAD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR LOOP ONE MOPAC LADY, BIRD LAKE LAMAR BOULEVARD, AND ENFIELD ROAD. ALANA HAS PROVIDED A PLACE FOR MIXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL IN ITS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THREE AREAS OR IDENTIFIED AS NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE OFFICE RETAIL AND RESIDENCES CAN BE MIXED VERTICALLY AND HORIZONTALLY. THESE AREAS ARE WEST FIFTH AND SIXTH STREET BETWEEN LAMAR AND MOPAC LAMAR BETWEEN TOWN LAKE AND ENFIELD AND WRESTLING FROM 10TH TO 13TH STREET. THESE THREE AREAS ALLOW FOR MIXED USE. OLD WEST AUSTIN HAS A PER RESIDENTIAL PROTECTED CORE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN STATES THAT THE PROPERTIES ALONG ITS INFIELD BOUNDARY ARE IN, ARE IN THE AREA DEFINED AS THE RESIDENTIAL CORE IN OUR TO BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED FROM REZONING TO ANYTHING. NON-RESIDENTIAL. I REFER YOU TO PAGE 11 OF YOUR ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET FOR A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL CORE. THE PLAN ALSO MAKES CLEAR THAT NO ZONING CHANGES, NO ZONING CHANGES TO A MORE PERMISSIVE ZONING CATEGORY SHOULD BE PERMITTED PRESERVATION OF EXISTING OLDER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE STRUCTURES IS STRONGLY ENCOURAGED ALL THE WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, A LOT MADE ALLOWANCES FOR AREAS THAT WOULD ALLOW M U TO BE ADDED TO THE BASE [03:50:01] DISTRICT. THESE AREAS ARE CLEARLY DEFINED AND ARE NOT LOCATED ALONG ENFIELD ROAD. HEY, JAY AND ROSE WASTE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLANT IS A COLORED MAP OF THE AREAS. I JUST DESCRIBED THE BUYERS, NALI CUSTOM HOMES, AND FORMED A RHONDA VIA LETTER, A COPY OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET THAT 1509 ENFIELD WILL SERVE AS THEIR BASE OFFICE FOR SENIOR MANAGEMENT PLANNING AND DESIGN PROJECT MANAGERS AND OFFICE STAFF. THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO USE THE PROPERTY AS A CONSTRUCTION SERVICE OFFICE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DOES NOT SUPPORT A CONSTRUCTION SERVICE OFFICE IN AN AREA ZONE FOR RESIDENTIAL. MOLLY HAS NOT PROVIDED ANY SUBSTANTIAL DETAILS ABOUT THEIR PLANS, ESPECIALLY INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL USE AND HOW THE PRESENCE OF A CUSTOM HOME BUILDING BUSINESS WILL BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ON PAGE 10 OF YOUR ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET OR SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS REGARDING LAND USE ZONING INFORMATION. I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES UNDER THE BANNER OF MIXED USE WITH TOKEN RESIDENTIAL SPACE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE GOAL OF THE PLAN IS AT LEAST THREE SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL SPACE FOR EVERY NEW SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, RENT ZONING, 1509 AND FIELD TO N O M U M P IS ASKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO FORFEIT RESIDENTIAL SPACE NEEDED FOR A GROWING OFTEN FOR THE BENEFIT AND GAIN OF A PRIVATE COMPANY. RUNNING REGULATIONS MUST PROMOTE THE GOOD OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RATHER THAN FROZEN THE DESIRES OF A PARTICULAR GROUP OR INDIVIDUAL USING A ZONING CHANGE TO FURTHER PRIVATE INTERESTS, CONFLICTS WITH THE RIGHTS AND EXPRESS DESIRES OF THE PUBLIC. IN THIS CASE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS, THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING 15 OR NINE ARE ALL IN RESIDENTIAL WITH ONE EXCEPTION, AND THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY ANOTHER NEIGHBOR. CHANGING THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN REQUIRES AN AMENDMENT BY AWANA GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. COMMERCIALIZING INFIELD DOES NOT COMPORT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. YOU DON'T WANT A MEMBERSHIP VOTED AT THE GENERAL MEETING ON JUNE 2ND AGAINST RE REZONING 1509 INFIELD TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST COMMERCIALIZATION ALONG INFIELD. A LETTER OF OPPOSITION DATA, JUNE 15TH IS PAGE 40 YEARS ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET PACKET, OTHER FACTORS TO CONSIDER IN REZONING 59 ENFIELD OR HOUSING STOCK PARKING AND TRAFFIC AND IMPERVIOUS COVER. THESE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED BY OTHER RESIDENTS WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO TESTIFY. FURTHERMORE, YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, 18 EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS WHO OPPOSED REZONING 1509 ENFIELD, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SIX TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE OUR UNIQUE HISTORIC IDENTITY, REMAIN A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ALL AGENTS WITH A VARIETY OF HOUSING STUFF AND BALANCE GROWTH RAMP RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AS A GUIDE, INFIELD PROVIDES A BOUNDARY TO OUR RESIDENTIAL CORE IS RESIDENTIAL AND SHOULD REMAIN SO 15 OR NINE INFIELD IS IN THE RESIDENTIAL CORE. REZONING TO COMMERCIAL WAS PROHIBITED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE RESIDENTIAL CORE BOUNDARIES WOULD HAVE TO BE MODIFIED THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT. THE RESIDENTS OF OLD WEST AUSTIN AGREED NOT TO SUPPORT REZONING 59 AND FIELD. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT SUPPORT REZONING 59 AND FIELDS FROM MSP, N P TO N O M U N P. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. UH, MISS MS. LEON, UH, LION ON THE LINE. SHEILA LYON. I'M HERE. GOOD EVENING. I AM. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. I AM SHEILA LYON, THE CURRENT ILANA ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIR. I PERSONALLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF 1509 AND FIELD TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE WITH MIXED USE 1509 AND FIELDS REQUEST TO REZONE AS A RESIDENT POTENTIAL PROPERTY TO NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE AND MIXED USE IS MISGUIDED URBAN DESIGN, ADDING A BUSINESS THAT DOES NOT TRULY HAVE A USE THAT SERVES COMMUNITY, CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY NEEDS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE MAIN MAINE ZONING DIRECTIVE. NELLY CUSTOMS HOMES INTENTION IS TO BUY 1,509 AND FIELD FOR THEIR LUXURY HOME BUSINESS. ONLY SINCE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE IS A BASE DISTRICT THAT CAN HAVE MIXED USE ADDED. THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDED ADDING M U TO THE PROPOSED ZONING, 1509 ENFIELD LIVES ON THE BOUNDARY OF TWO HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THE NALLEY CUSTOM NALLEY LUXURY HOMES PORTFOLIO DOES NOT REFLECT THE CHARACTER OF THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. IT IS A PRIORITY OF THE AWANA NEIGHBORHOOD TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE EXISTING HOMES, NOT ONLY FOR THEIR HISTORIC CHARACTER, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THE OLDER HOMES SERVE AS THE MOST VIABLE OPTION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. TRUE MIXED USE CREATES HOMES FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS. SO YOU DON'T WANT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOSING ITS MIXED INCOME DIVERSITY TO LUXURY HOME BUILDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN STATES RATHER THAN SIMPLY ATTRACTING HIGH END RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE NEIGHBOR WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ATTRACT HOUSING FOR A VARIETY [03:55:01] OF INCOME LEVELS, INCLUDING POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, TEACHERS, AND NURSES. THE IDEA OF ADDING MIXED USE TO THE ZONING IS A MISUSE OF MIXED USE. TRUE MIXED USE INCORPORATES A STRONG CONNECTIVITY TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ATTRACTS WALKING AND BICYCLING DUE TO THE EXTREMELY HEAVY TRAFFIC. I RARELY HAVE SEEN ANYONE WALKING OR BICYCLING AROUND ALONG AND FIELD ROAD AND FIELDS. THE NARROW ROAD HAS NO ROOM TO SUPPORT BICYCLE LANES NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE'S HOME IS A SEEMINGLY SEEMINGLY CAR CENTRIC BUSINESS. WELL, THE CLIENTELE DESIGNERS, ARCHITECTS, CONTRACTORS INVOLVED WITH THIS BUSINESS BE WALKING OR RIDING TO AND FROM IN THEIR CARS. HOW MANY ACTUALLY LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND GIVEN 1509 AND FIELDS SITE LIMITATIONS OF COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, DRAINAGE, AND SLOPE. CAN THE STRUCTURE BE BIG ENOUGH TO ADD MUCH OF A RESIDENTIAL ASPECTS? SO WHY IS THE MIXED USE BEING ADDED RIGHT NOW? THE SITE IS OVER ITS IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT, AND BARELY HAS ENOUGH PARKING FOR SIX CARS. THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES UNDER THE BANNER OF MIXED USE WITH TOKEN RESIDENTIAL SPACE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. I WANT TO HAVE SEEN AN ENHANCED STREET VIEW RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED RENOVATION. WE HAVE NO IDEA OF ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE RENOVATION. WHAT IS THE CURRENT FLOOR AREA RATIO? CAN THEY ADD ONTO THE STRUCTURE WITHOUT NEEDING A VARIANCE? HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL OFFICE DAILY AT NALLEY CUSTOM HOMES? HOW MANY ONSITE PARKING SPACES CAN BE PROVIDED, WHETHER IT'D BE ENOUGH PARKING TO PREVENT OVERFLOW PARKING, A NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, 1509 ENFIELDS NEARBY NEIGHBORS, STRONGLY OPPOSED. THE REASON ONE IS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DOESN'T SUPPORT MIXED USE ON ENFIELD. PLEASE DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION FOR 1509 AND IT'S SEALED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, DO I HAVE TED BARNHILL ON THE LINE? YEAH, I'M HERE. GREAT. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. I COMMISSIONERS, UM, I'M TED BARNHILL. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE AWANA STEERING COMMITTEE. AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS. UH, I'M HERE TO SHARE THAT THE OLDEST STUFF, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AWANA HAS VOTED TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF 1,509 INFIELD. AND WE DID THAT AT OUR JUNE 2ND MEETING. UH, THE VOTE CAME AFTER OUR MEMBERS HEARD A PRESENTATION BY THE REPRESENTATIVES OF APPLICANT. WE ALSO HEARD FROM SEVERAL NEARBY NEIGHBORS, AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF A LOT OF ZONING COMMITTEE WHO PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED AND OPPOSED THIS ZONING APPLICATION. IF THAT MEETING IS ON A COMMITTEE, SUMMARIZE SEVEN REASONS WHY WE HAD RECOMMENDED THIS OPPOSITION FIRST, UM, NEARBY NEIGHBORS TO THIS PROPERTY HAVE OVERWHELMINGLY EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING AND OUR MEMBERS HAVE HISTORICALLY GIVEN SPECIAL CONSIDERATION TO THE WISHES OF NEARBY NEIGHBORS. UH, NUMBER TWO AWANAS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN HAS IDENTIFIED THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG ENFIELD AS A BOUNDARY OF OUR RESIDENTIAL CORE AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CLEARLY STATES THAT THIS AREA IS TO BE PROTECTED. AS RESIDENTIAL THIRD REZONING WOULD CREATE A GATEWAY SETTING FOR COMMERCIALIZATION OF THE INFIELD CORRIDOR. NEIGHBORS BELIEVE THIS COULD LEAD TO THE SCENARIO, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE ON WEST SIXTH STREET, WHERE RESIDENTS RESIDENTIAL USE HAS BEEN LOST TO COMMERCIAL OFFICE USE. OUR MEMBERS DID NOT BELIEVE THE HOME BUILDING COMPANY, WORLD COMPANY HOME BUILDING COMPANY OFFICE WILL BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD NUMBERS ARE CONCERNED THAT THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD NOT PREVENT THE FUTURE DEMOLITION OF THIS HOME. YEAH. UH, INTRODUCING ADDITIONAL TRIPS TO AND FROM BUSINESSES ON INFIELD ROAD WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC SAFETY. OPENING THE DOOR TO BUSINESS TRAFFIC ALONG INFIELD SEEMS AN INVITATION FOR MORE HAZARDOUS IN FIELD ROAD, IMPERVIOUS COVER DRAINAGE ISSUES, AND A SLOPING SITE WOULD LIMIT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT ONSITE PARKING FOR A BUSINESS USE. CURRENTLY THE PARKING IS REALLY TIGHT THERE AS WE'VE MENTIONED, AND THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD LEAD TO WARRANT. PERFECT COVER, MORE PAVED PARKING, CREATING THE POSSIBILITY OF WORSE OFF SEVENTH REZONING WOULD MAKE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USE UNLIKELY A COMPATIBILITY AND SITE FACTORS WILL, WILL LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE, MAKING IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP ANY SIGNIFICANT RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT THE CURRENT SPACE IS LEASED BY A GIRLS' ORGANIZATION THAT RENT IT TO UT STUDENT MEMBERS. SO THIS IS ON ANY CHANGE WITH IN EFFECT RUN COUNTER TO ANOTHER ONE OF THE WANNAS PRIORITIES, WHICH IS TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS, AGAIN, THE MEMBERS OF THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAVE VOTED TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING. AND WE ASK THAT YOU STAND WITH US AND DENY THE REZONING OF 15 AND NINE NCO. I KEEP THANK YOU, ROY JOHNSON. ROY JOHNSON. ARE YOU THERE? YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO [04:00:01] UNMUTE ROY JOHNSON TWICE. HEY, YOU'RE THERE I CAN. AND MAUREEN, UH, METI HOUR AND JOHN TINE ARE QUEUED UP NEXT GO ROY JOHNSON. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GOOD, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US. AND I'M DELIGHTED TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE LIVED IN BOSTON SINCE 1972, 48 YEARS AS A STUDENT. I WALKED INFIELD ROAD FROM HARTFORD TO UT AUSTIN, UH, AS A STUDENT IN 1972. SO I'M VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. AND I'VE BEEN REALTOR FOR 35 YEARS IN WEST AUSTIN AND HAVE NINE DIFFERENT HOMES IN WEST AUSTIN. UM, THIS IS A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE FIRST BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN CLARKSVILLE, BUT TO ANFIELD ROAD, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD REGISTERED IN A UNITED STATE, DID A STORY FOR THE FIRST BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE UNITED STATES TO, UM, GIVE THE PERMISSION FOR THAT STATE TO BE CONVERTED TO COMMERCIAL USE LIKE A BUILDER'S OFFICE OR ANY USED AS COMMERCIAL DESTROYED. TWO OF THE MOST HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS IN AUSTIN. THAT'S CLARKSVILLE, AN OLD WEST INFIELD. WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO AUSTIN, I TAKE THEM THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO SHOW THEM HOW BEAUTIFUL AUSTIN IS THAT THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO AUSTIN. THEY'RE MOVING TO AUSTIN BECAUSE THEY SEE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THAT. AND THEY FEEL LIKE I WANT TO BE LIVING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THAT BY LETTING BUILDING COMPANY TO COME AND HAVE AN OFFICE THERE. YOU'RE DESTROYING, DESTROYING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ONE BY ONE. I WANT YOU TO PLEASE GO TO CLASS WELL, UM, WEBSITE AND READ ABOUT THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN LIKE THAT THE LAND WAS DONATED TO THE FLAX TO BUILD THEIR HOUSES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT'S STILL THERE. AREN'T MANY LIKES LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND BY DOING THAT, YOU'RE BASICALLY DESTROYING THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN, THAT HOUSE, SOME OF THE BLACK PEOPLE IN AUSTIN. AND THEN NUMBER TWO, UM, THE APPLICANT KEEPS TALKING ABOUT, KEEPS TALKING ABOUT, UM, I KNOW THERE'S ONLY IN THE, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S JUST THE 1501 INFIELD, WHICH WAS, UH, UH, ZONED TO OFFICE USE IN GOODNESS OF OUR HEART. IN 1980S, WE WANTED TO HELP CHILDREN, UH, UH, CHILDREN'S SHELTERS IN AUSTIN AND HOUSE THEM IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY COULD COME AND SEE HOW NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE CLARKSVILLE OR WEST AUSTIN IS. WE WANTED THEM TO HAVE A HOUSE IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE GAVE THEM 580 SQUARE FOOT OF OFFICES SPACE TO USE. SO THEY'D BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR ORGANIZATION KNOW CORNER OF MARSHALL AND INFIELD. AND THAT'S HOW THIS WHOLE THING WHEN I'M BEEN MISUSED, THAT'S 580 SQUARE FOOT WAS AT 1503 ZONING GIVEN CONDITIONALLY FOR ONLY CHILDREN'S, UH, SHELTER. AND THEN MS. TWO PROPERTIES USE HER HIGH POWERED LAWYER TO CONVERT TO EXCHANGE 1503 TO 1501, WHICH IS JUST 4,100, A SQUARE FOOT TO OFFICE AND CITY OF AUSTIN BLINDLY WENT FOR IT, BUT THE ORDINANCE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED. 63 WILL NEVER BE USED AS THE OFFICE. IT WAS CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL AND I'VE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE, THE ORDINANCE OUTLINING THAT, PLEASE, PLEASE LOOK AT IT AND SEE IT IS AS PART OF MY PACKAGE, I FEEL LIKE BY DOING [04:05:01] THIS, BASICALLY RUINING ONE OF THE HISTORIC HYSTERICAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN AUSTIN, CLARKSVILLE AND INFIELD, WHICH GOES ALL THE WAY TO PEACE PARK. HE'S PARKED WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE HISTORICAL PARKS ALSO. AND WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CONVERTED TO, UH, OFFICES AND, AND, AND BUSINESSES BEFORE WE'RE OVER YOUR TIME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UH, MARINE MEDIC HOUR. YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. I'M PROBABLY NOT PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY. UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, JOHN TYNER IS NEXT AFTER YOU AND DAVID NEWTON IS AFTER HIM. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MAUREEN MATOYER. I'M A MEMBER OF THE OLD WEST AUSTIN ZONING COMMITTEE AND ALSO, UH, AREA RESIDENT. UM, BEFORE I BEGIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM, OF COURSE, SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE. UM, BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED EARLIER. FIRST OF ALL, UM, AWANA REALLY IS A COLLABORATIVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE ALREADY HAVE VERY DENSE ZONING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY, COLLABORATIVELY ALL THE TIME WITH DEVELOPERS. AND MOST RECENTLY WE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO UPSOLD THE AREA AROUND WHAT WILL, WHAT IS FORMERLY GRAFFITI PARK TO ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT THERE? UM, SO WE, WE FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS GROWTH IN AUSTIN AND WE TRY TO WORK AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THIS CASE IS DIFFERENT. THIS CASE IS NOT, UH, ALLOWING FOR DENSE RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS A CHANGE IN USE, AND THIS IS THE REASON THAT WE OPPOSED THIS IS THE REASON THAT MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS OPPOSED THE EARLIER ZONING CHANGE DOWN THE STREET, WHICH WAS ENFIELD ROAD IS NOT, IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL USE. THERE IS TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON ENFIELD ROAD. AND ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE TRAVELED FROM IT DURING RUSH HOUR? NO, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET UP IN TOWN COMMERCIAL USE. IT WILL BRING MORE TRAFFIC, THE NALE FAMILY AND, UH, UH, LAILA HAVE SPOKEN TO THE FACT THAT THIS WILL LEAD TO LESS TRAFFIC. UM, THAT WAS NOT WHAT WE HEARD AND NOT WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN OUR, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING. THIS WAS PITCHED AS A MODEL HOME AND A PLACE FOR THEM TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS, UM, FROM ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON AROUND AUSTIN. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS PARTICULAR SPOT HAS TO BE A GOOD LOCATION. THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN REZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE THAT FEATURE HOMES THAT COULD BE PURCHASED AND REHABBED. AND I POINT TO THE AREA OF ORIGINAL OLD AUSTIN, WHERE THERE ARE PLENTY OF ALREADY ZONED COMMERCIAL HOMES THAT COULD BE FIXED UP AND USED AS A MODEL HOME AND A SITE FOR CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS. MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ZONED SF THREE, MS. AND IT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL USE. UM, AND THE CONSTRUCTION TEAMS THAT WOULD BE OUT THERE ALL THE TIME MEETING. WE, WE, WE HAVE NO SENSE OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK. UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS I THINK THE STAFF HAD INTIMATED THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE INFILL ALONG ENFIELD HAS HAS LAGGED. THERE IS AN EMPTY PROPERTY. THIS HOUSE IS BEING SOLD, BUT ONLY WANTING TO BE USED AS COMMERCIAL. THERE IS SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, ALONG ENFIELD ROAD FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. WE HAVE WORKED WITH DEVELOPERS ON THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS BEFORE, AND SEVERAL OF THEM HAVE BEEN HISTORIC HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN REHABBED INTO MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL USE PROPERTIES, THE MOST RECENT BEING 17, 15 UNSEALED ROAD. SO THIS, THIS, THIS PROPERTY, UM, IF IT WERE PRESERVED AS A RESIDENTIAL USE, THERE'S NO, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ASSUMPTION THAT IT WOULD LEAD TO MORE TRAFFIC. IT COULD BE REHABBED INTO A SINGLE FAMILY RENTAL. IT COULD BE REHABBED INTO A DUPLEX. IT DOES NOT ASSUME THAT ONLY COLLEGE KIDS ARE GONNA LIVE THERE WITH LOTS OF TRAFFIC AND LOTS OF CARS. SO I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS ONCE YOU ALLOW THIS, IT IS GOING TO BE A DOMINO EFFECT. WE SAW THAT ON WEST SIXTH STREET, WHICH USED TO HAVE RESIDENCES ALONG THAT STREET. IT IS NOW ENTIRELY OFFICES. AND THIS IS WHY WE OPPOSE THE CHANGE ON 1501 AND 1503. ALL RIGHT, MISS BETTY ARE YOUR YOU'RE. WELL, OVER YOUR TIME HERE, I GOT TO CUT YOU OFF. I'M SORRY. THANKS. OKAY. UH, APOLOGIZE, COMMISSIONER. I WAS ON MUTE WHILE I WAS TELLING HER SHE WAS OFFERED OVER, UH, JOHN TYNER. YOUR NEXT DAVID NEWTON IS AFTER THAT. AND THEN, UH, ROSEMARY MARIAM'S AFTER THAT, UH, JOHN TYNER, DO WE HAVE A YEAR? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. [04:10:01] GO AHEAD. HI, MY NAME'S JOHN TYNER AND I AM A PAST PRESIDENT OF ALANA AND, UM, I AM ON THE, UM, ZONING COMMITTEE AND I HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS, A LONG TIME AUSTIN RESIDENT AND A LIVE AND WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST OFF OF INFIELD ON WINDSOR ROAD. UM, I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER. AND SO I VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY BECAUSE I SHOWED IT A FEW TIMES TO SOME CLIENTS. AND I KNOW THE, UM, THE CURRENT TENANT I BELIEVE WOULD STAY THERE IF THEY COULD. UM, AND WHILE THEY ARE STUDENTS, THEY DO HAVE CARS, BUT THEY RARELY USE THEM. I'VE SEEN IT MANY TIMES BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT AROUND THE BLOCK. SO IN SPEAKING TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE, THE, UM, OVERLYING ISSUE THAT THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING UP TRAFFIC, THEY ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC. I CAN TELL YOU 100% BECAUSE THEY WILL BE COMING AND GOING AT RUSH HOUR. STUDENTS DON'T USE THAT STUDENTS DON'T USE RUSH HOUR. THEY DO THEY'RE ALL OVER THE MAP AND THEY RARELY USE THEIR CARS IN AND OUT OF THERE. SO THIS PARTICULAR USE WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC DRAMATICALLY. AND BECAUSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICES LIKE THIS, THEY TEND TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS BETTER. SO THEY CUT THROUGH THE STREETS. SO YOU GET A LOT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC WITH THIS TYPE OF, UM, USE, UM, IN, FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE. UM, WHENEVER YOU HAVE, UM, COMMERCIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, IT WILL BE CREASE YOUR PROPERTY VALUE. SO ALL THESE NEIGHBORS, THEY VALUE WHAT THEY HAVE, NOT ONLY AS THE LIVABILITY OF IT, BUT AS THE VALUE. AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN AND COMMERCIAL USE WILL BE OPPOSITE EFFECT ON THAT. UM, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE, UM, SOMEONE LIKE THIS SHOULD LOOK IN AN AREA WHERE IT DOES ALREADY HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING. THERE'S PLENTY OF REAL ESTATE TO BUY, UH, THAT HAS COMMERCIAL ZONING. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHY ONE WOULD COME AND WANT TO CHANGE ZONING, ESPECIALLY SINCE TYPE OF COMPANY IS NOT A GOOD FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN AESTHETIC IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY'RE THEY'RE WAY OUT OF WHACK WITH WHO WE ARE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND AS A BUSINESS, THEY AREN'T THERE ON THE WEEKENDS AND THEY AREN'T THERE AT NIGHT. SO IT CREATES A DEAD SPACE FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S WHY CITIES HAVE ALWAYS PROMOTED RESIDENTIAL DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T ROLL UP AT NIGHT AROUND AND ON THE WEEKENDS, WE WANT THAT SORT OF INTERACTION. WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE JUST DRIVING IN AT RUSH HOUR AND LEAVING RUSH HOUR, CREATING INCREDIBLE TRAFFIC, UM, MAINLY THE NEARBY NEIGHBORS AND MOST, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSE THIS, WHICH I THINK CARRIES SO MUCH WEIGHT IN THIS FINAL THOUGHTS. THAT'S YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, THE, THE ZONING ON 1501 INFIELD, IT WAS ONLY A TRADE. WE, WE FOUGHT THAT AND DIDN'T WANT IT, BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY GOT THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY MADE A TRADE WITH A PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT HAD THE COMMERCIAL ZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, DAVID NEWTON, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? DAVID NEWTON. YOU CAN STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YOU'RE THERE? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND UP ON DECK ARE ROSEMARY MERRIAM, AND JERRY JOHNSON. GO AHEAD, DAVID NEWTON. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE OTHERS BEFORE ME. UH, DAVID NEWTON. WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER THIS WAY? THAT'S THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS PLANTED IN 1918, RIGHT? SORRY, MR. NEWTON. YOU'RE VERY, VERY QUIET. I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, HUH? YEAH. THAT'S BETTER THAT. OKAY. THIS IS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WAS PLANTED IN 1918. SO OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN AND CURRENTLY IS COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL FROM WHERE IT STARTS NEAR LAMAR, ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER, EXCEPT FOR ONE OFFICE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, WHICH IS THE MUCH DEBATED AND TALKED ABOUT 15 AT ONE, MISS, UH, JOHNSON LAID OUT ACCURATELY. UH, SOME OF THE FACTS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THAT NEIGHBOR LAURA HAS, HAS BEEN, WAS WILLING TO INCUMBENT BOTH 1503 AND 1501, WHICH SHE OWNS BOTH UP WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WERE MEMORIALIZED IN AN ORDINANCE PASSED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN ON NOVEMBER, THE FOURTH OF 2010. AND THESE RESTRICTIONS WERE, UH, ADDRESSED YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, PARKING, [04:15:01] SIGNAGE, UH, AND FENCING. AND THESE, UH, WERE AGREED TO BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND EXCHANGE FOR THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE, UH, ZONING THAT WAS ON 1503 TO EXCHANGE IT TO, UH, CHANGE 15 OR THREE BACK TO MF MULTIFAMILY THREE AND PUT THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ZONING ON 1501 THAT AT THE TIME THE CITY FOLLOWED CRITERIA, IT SAID A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE ZONING, ANY RESIDENTIAL AREA, SUCH AS THIS IS BEST AT A CORNER LOT WHERE THERE'S ACCESS TO A SIDE STREET RATHER THAN TO HEAVY TRAFFIC AS ENFIELD WAS AND WHERE THERE IS PARKING ADEQUATE TO THE BUSINESS AND NOT IN A MID-BLOCK AREA WHERE THERE IS ONLY ACCESS TO IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ONTO, UH, AN ARTERIAL STREET. IT SEEMS TO BE CALLED. UH, SO IT WAS VERY EXCEPTIONAL, ONLY SUCH PROPERTY ALL ALONG MCL. UH, AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. SO IT, IT WAS, WE STORED PER THE AGREEMENT OF THE SCOTSMAN TO A BEAUTIFUL, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT, IS A SIGNIFICANT OLD ENFIELD, THE STATE, WHICH CONTRIBUTES AND BENEFITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE AESTHETIC, UH, AND, AND, AND HIS HISTORY. SO THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT. I WANT TO SAY THE, UM, PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, 15 TO THREE. IT'S NOT, MULTI-USE SOMEONE SAID IT IS NOT A PARKING LOT. IT'S POSTED NO PARKING. I THINK THE LANDSCAPER PARKS THERE. SOMETIMES I ALSO KNEW THE PREVIOUS OWNERS OF 1,509. AND I DO NOT REMEMBER THAT THEY HAD HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR CONDUCTED ANY BUSINESS THERE. UH, SO IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT CONTRARY TO THE OTHER, UH, 1501 TO COMMITTED TO PROMISING ANYTHING, NO RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UH, THAT IS YOUR TIME. I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS YOUR TIME. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE. UM, WE'RE INTO THE ONE MINUTE SLOTS HERE. UH, ROSEMARY MARYAM. DO I HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, YOU DO. OKAY. AND THEN AFTER YOU, AS JERRY JOHNSON AND JANET CASTER, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD. UM, MY NAME IS ROSEMARY MARY AND MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE ON, ON WESTLAND IN 1986. I'VE LOT OF STUFF HAS GONE ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THEN. I'VE WORKED HARD TO TRY AND KEEP IT SOMEWHAT HISTORIC. UM, MY CRYSTAL BALL IS DIFFERENT THAN, UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT SAYS. I SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. I'VE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC INCREASE OVER THE YEARS, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I DON'T. AND, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT PUTTING MORE COMMERCIAL ZONING THERE? THEY MIGHT THINK THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE GOING IN AND OUT EACH DAY, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT ISN'T GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THAT. THEY'LL FIND AS THEIR BUSINESS GOES, THAT THEY WILL HAVE CONTINUED TO HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE EXITING AND ENTERING THE AREA. I'VE HAD SOME CLOSE CALLS WITH MY CAR. UM, WHEN I TRY AND TURN OFF AND FIELD INTO MY, INTO THE STREETS, I USE MY TURN SIGNAL. I'M A LITTLE LATE, BUT FINAL THOUGHTS. YOU'RE ALMOST UP. OKAY. I'VE HAD A WRECK. I'VE HAD A RACE STAR ANYWAY. I, I THINK THAT WHAT THEY PROPOSED IS JUST NOT GONNA WORK FOR US AND I'M OKAY. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE JERRY JOHNSON ON THE LINE? JERRY JOHNSON. IT'S STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU BARELY. ALRIGHT. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. AND THEN AFTER YOU AS A JANET TESTER, ALL RIGHT. I BEGAN THE, UH, THE ONLY REGIONAL MEETING AS A, WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, JERRY JOHNSON. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? BARELY. SO REZONING OF THIS LAW, UH, WE CAN TALK LOUDER. THE REASONS EVERYONE IS ALREADY GONE OVER IT IS A HISTORICAL IT'S HISTORICAL. WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT. I KNOW THAT'S A GOOD LOSS JOHNSON. MMM. THAT WAS YOUR TIME. UH, JANET KASSNER, ARE YOU THERE? JANET, CATHERINE, OR YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE JANET KASSNER ONCE [04:20:02] WEISS. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON JOY, PENSACOLA FOR YOU ON THE LINE. JOY PENTECOST. YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. YEP. I JUST DID THAT. YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YEAH. YOU'RE HERE. ARE YOU JOY? PENTECOST? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. YOU'RE THE LAST SPEAKER. I'M A MEMBER OF THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSING THIS REZONING. I'VE LIVED AT 1707 INFIELD ROAD SINCE 1975. MY HOME IS THREE AND A HALF BLOCKS FROM 1509 INFIELD. I OPPOSE THE REZONING BECAUSE THE DOMINO EFFECT COULD EASILY HAPPEN. UM, I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE AN INSTANCE OF THE DOMINO EFFECT. UM, AND I THINK THAT MAINTAINING ROAD AS A PROTECTIVE RESIDENTIAL CORE IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY OUGHT NOT TO BE VIOLATED. IT IS A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND CLEARLY WOULD, THE REZONING WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT IT IS INEVITABLE. IF THE, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALLOWS THIS. OKAY. THAT IS YOUR TIME, MS. . UM, I'M BEING ADVISED THAT I NEED TO CALL BACK JERRY JOHNSON FOR, UM, YOUR FINAL 30 SECONDS. JERRY JOHNSON. ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? JERRY JOHNSON. ARE YOU STILL HERE? HE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, MAYBE NOT BE ON SPEAKER. OKAY. MS. JOHNSON, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU. ARE YOU ON SPEAKER PHONE? OKAY. MS. JOHNSON. WE DON'T HEAR YOU AT ALL. HELLO? IS THIS JERRY JOHNSON? HELLO? IS THIS JERRY JOHNSON? YES. HELLO, JERRY JOHNSON. IS THAT YOU? YES, IT IS JERRY JOHNSON. I CAN ACTUALLY HEAR YOU NOW. YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS. ALRIGHT. I AM DEFINITELY AGAINST 1509. I DO NEED YOU TO HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. WE'VE GOT TO LET JERRY JOHNSON FINISHES CANNOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. ONE OR TWO REMAIN THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT AS IT IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. JOHNSON, JANET CASON. ARE YOU THERE JANET? KASNER . HELLO? THIS IS JANA. KASSNER RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE THE LAST SPEAKER. OKAY. OKAY. I'VE LIVED IN THIS HISTORIC RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS IN THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. IN 2015, MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT 1508 PALM, A PLAZA, A 1931 HOME DIRECTLY OF THIS PROPERTY. IN QUESTION, WE RENOVATED OURSELVES WITH HELP FOR EIGHT MONTHS. OUR BACKYARD AND GARDEN ARE DIRECTLY OVER THEIR FENCE. ALTHOUGH OUR PROPERTY IS ZONE . IT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WHEN WE BOUGHT IT AND WE KEPT IT THAT WAY WITHOUT ENLARGING THE FOOTPRINT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NECESSARY OR ACCEPTABLE TO START A NEW CORRIDOR OF COMMERCIALIZATION ON ENFIELD. WHEN FOUR ALREADY EXIST IN LESS THAN 10 BLOCKS. LAMAR WESTLAND SITS IN SIXTH STREET. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT ONE BUSINESS WAS ALREADY ALLOWED ON ENFIELD SETTING A PRECEDENT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. CASPER, THAT'S YOUR TIME? DID YOU SEE MY PHOTOS? UH, UM, FEW SENT EMAILS OUT. WE RECEIVED THEM. OKAY. WELL, WE ARE FLOODED FROM THAT LOT FLOODED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. KESSLER. YOU'RE OVER YOUR TIME AS [04:25:01] PER THE RULES OF DEBATE ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION. OKAY. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? MISTER HEMPEL SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR ALL IN FAVOR. GO GREEN. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. UM, OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RESEND THAT MOTION. UH, UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GIVE THE APPLICANT THEIR FINAL THREE MINUTES. UH, LAILA NELSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CLOSE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, JUST TO KIND OF MAKE SOME NOTES HERE, THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE, WE AGREE WITH, UH, WITH STAFF, WITH MARK GRAHAM AND HIS, UH, HIS TEAM AT THE CITY. WE AGREE WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ZONING OF THIS TRACK, UH, PER SEA SADOWSKY. IT IS NOT, I CONTRIBUTING, UM, TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT HAVING SAID THAT, UH, THERE IS A COMMITMENT FOR SURE ABOUT DENALI FAMILY TO PRESERVE THE STRUCTURE. THE ALTERNATIVE IS VERY CLEAR AND IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING TO ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND, INCLUDING ON PAMA PLAZA OR ZONE MULTIFAMILY, AND THE 2008, A DEVELOPER ATTEMPTED TO ASSEMBLE SEVERAL PROPERTIES AND WAS GOING TO, UH, DEMOLISH ALL OF THE STRUCTURES AND, UH, AND REBUILD, UM, INTO A MORE MODERN, UM, MULTIFAMILY TYPE OR CONDO COMMUNITY. THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WILL DISAPPEAR IF THAT'S ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM STAFF IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OLD AWESOME, UH, OH, WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN BEING 20 YEARS OLD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RATIFIED EVERY FIVE YEARS. IT HAS NEVER BEEN LED A BUD. UM, UH, LET'S SEE, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR, IT IS, THIS WAS NOT PITCHED AS A MODEL HOME WHERE MEETINGS WOULD OCCUR. I DELIBERATELY STAYED AWAY FROM THE WORD CONSTRUCTION. AS A MATTER OF FACT, AS YOU COULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A VERY WELL RESPECTED, UM, HOME BUILDING COMPANY, UH, IT'S A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS. THERE WAS PLENTY OF PARKING THERE THERE'S ACTUALLY EIGHT PARKING SPOTS AND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, THREE AGAIN WAS A MID BLOCK LOT THAT WAS ZONED, UH, IN, OH, SO THEY ARGUMENT THAT AMID LOT LIVE LOT, LOT SHOULD NOT BE COMMERCIAL, UH, DOES NOT STAND UP TO, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST. SO WE, UM, WITH THAT, UH, ONE OTHER THING, I GUESS, THIS ONE ADDRESS SEVERAL THINGS THAT, UH, WOULD BE DEALT WITH DURING A SITE PLAN EXEMPTION, DOING A CHANGE OF USE PROCESS. UH, SO THERE ARE OTHER, AS YOU WILL KNOW, AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN PREVIOUS CASES TONIGHT, THERE WERE OTHER CITY PROCESSES THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, UM, IS I DID, UH, DEFINITELY PRESENT A DRAFT, UH, UH, CEO TO THE ZOOM MEETING, UH, WITH THE SAME TEMPLATE AS 1501 ADDING RESTRICTIONS ABOUT THIS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS ABOUT ANYTHING LOOKING LIKE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT ON THE PROPERTY FOR HEADBUTTING THAT, AND ALSO PROHIBITING RETAIL SALES. THERE WAS NOT SOME MORE LIKE DISCUSSION AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. UH, I GOT NO AUDIENCE. UH, I GOT NO PARTICIPATION, UH, ON A CERTIFICATE OF AUTISM OF A CEO, BUT THAT I OKAY. THAT, THAT, THAT IS YOUR TITLE. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, ALL ON FAVOR, GO GREEN COMMISSIONER CAUSEY. YOU WISH TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN . THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT, UNANIMOUS. UM, UH, SO, UM, WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ROUND ROBIN. SURE. SHAW, GO AHEAD. SO, UH, JUST READING THE CODE AND NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE IS DEFINED AS NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT IT SERVES AS NEEDS. AND THEN SECONDLY, AND MAYBE WE NEED A STAFF TO ANSWER THIS. UM, THERE'S AND I SAW THIS IN THE NOTES, BUT THERE'S A 40 FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ROAD. AND I SEE ON A MAP HERE IT'S LESS THAN 40. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'LL BE ADDRESSED. SO MAYBE STAFF CAN, UH, UM, TALK ABOUT HOW IS THERE GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY INCREASE THE ROAD WIT, UH, BECAUSE AS IT IS, DOESN'T MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. THAT'S GRANT. ARE YOU [04:30:01] STILL ON THE LINE? YES, THIS IS MARK GRAHAM. CAN I ASK EVERYBODY ELSE TO PLEASE MUTE? MMM. I WAS UNMUTING WHEN YOU ASKED THE FIRST QUESTION AND IT BLOCKS YOU OUT TEMPORARILY. SO LET ME ANSWER THE SECOND ONE. I'M AT THE TOP OF PAGE SIX IN MY STAFF REPORT. UM, I DID MENTION THE 40 FEET AND, UH, OUR INFORMATION FROM, UM, THE, UM, AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN IS THAT THERE IS 40 FEET OF PAVEMENT IN THAT LOCATION. SO IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA. COULD YOU ASK THE FIRST QUESTION AGAIN? OKAY. SO WELL, BACK TO THE 40 FEET. SO IN THE NOTES, IT SAYS THAT THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME RIGHT AWAY DEDICATED TO MEET THAT 40 FEET. SO I'M NOT SURE. CAN YOU POINT US TO WHERE YOU, UM, YOU, YOU, UM, WE HAVE 40 FEET. WHERE IS THAT SHOWN IN THE NOTES? OH, THIS IS ON PAGE SIX OF THE STAFF REPORT. UM, ON THE, LET'S SEE IF YOU PAVEMENT A THIRD PARAGRAPH, SECOND SENTENCE. OKAY. I'LL READ THAT. UH, MY OTHER, LET'S JUST, UH, HOW, HOW DOES THIS SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY NEEDS? UM, ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR RIGHT BEHIND CONTACTED ME BY PHONE AND TOLD ME THAT THEY'D MOVED IN APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS AGO AND REMODELED THEIR HOUSE. AND SHE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY A COMPANY THAT REMODELED HOUSES WOULD WANT TO MOVE INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SHE CAN'T EVER IMAGINE HAVING A NEED FOR THAT, WHICH WAS IRONIC. UM, THEY, THEY ARE A HOME BUILDER, BUT THEY'RE, THEY ALSO RENOVATE. AND, UM, THAT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE A BUSINESS THAT, UM, UH, WOULD BE WELL SUITED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF OVERHAULS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS OR WISH TO SPEAK DURING ROUND ROBIN PRIOR TO EMOTION? I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN I JUST ASK STAFF, UM, GOOD QUESTION FOR STAFF. AND SO FOR GRANTED, AM I GREG AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DENSITY BURNERS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS, BUT IF THERE WAS BMU THAT THERE WILL BE , UM, THERE IS NO DENSITY BONUS AS PART OF THIS AND THE KNOWLEDGE, THE CURRENT APPLICANT DOES NOT PLAN TO MAKE USE OF THE EMU APP, PUT IT THERE FOR THE POTENTIAL THAT THE BUILDING COULD BE REUSED. DO YOU THINK THE ZONING IN THE FUTURE TO PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY? OKAY, SO I'M SORRY. LET ME JUST UNDERSTAND. THEY, IF THEY'RE WANTING TO DO IN THE FUTURE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REZONING OR WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO DO THE VIEW V LIKE WITH THE GEEK OUT TO THE END, YOU , THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO RESELL AND TO MAKE THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE USED BY, RIGHT. I I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DENSITY BONUS ASPECT OF IT. SO IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THERE'S NO DENSITY BY AND YOU, THEIR INCIDENTS. DO YOU WANT SOME VMU IF THEY WERE TO DECIDE IN THE FUTURE THAT THEY DECIDED TO GET MIXED USE LAVISH? I DO NOT THINK THAT RIGHT NOW. SO LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE IN THE FUTURE, IF THEY WERE GOING TO USE THE DENSITY BONUS, WOULD THEY HAVE TO REZONE? UM, I'M, I'M AFRAID, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. UH, THE USE OF THE DENSITY BONUS IN THIS LOCATION, THE PICTURES ARE IN THERE. YOU CAN'T SEE ANYONE. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. THE QUESTIONNAIRES ARE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, LOOKED INTO THIS B AS A, UH, AS A SPECIAL ZONE. AND, UM, BUT THEN IT'S MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT WAS NOTICED. SO THAT IS NOT AN OPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US HERE. UM, BUT THAT, UH, A, SO IF THEY WANTED TO ADD THE V THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK IN A FUTURE REZONING CASE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR, [04:35:01] UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING I WILL, I WILL SAY TO SPEAK TO THIS MOTION IS, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, UM, EAST OF THIS POINT ON ENFIELD WHO ARE DRIVING TRAFFIC. IT'S THE FOLKS THAT ARE WEST. AND, UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S A REALLY TENABLE TO, TO ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE CLOSER IN TO USE AN N A LESS INTENSE USE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FURTHER OUT TO USE IT AS A, UH, AS A THOROUGHFARE INTO THE CITY. SO, UM, FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE, UH, AND THEN ALSO FROM A, UM, UH, TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, SEEING A VARIETY OF USES ON A CORRIDOR IS, IS GENERALLY A GOOD THING AND CAN HELP REDUCE, UH TRIPLINK. SO, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A CORRIDOR, UM, AND A FAIRLY BUSY ONE AT THAT, BUT I, I CAN'T SEE, WOULD BE CREDIBLY IMPACTED BY ANY SORT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY. UM, THAT'S WHY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UM, THERE ARE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST OR NEUTRAL THAT'S FOR SURE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND COMMISSIONER HEMPEL GOOD. WELL, JUST LOOKING AT ANFIELD, IT'S, IT'S PLANNED FOR A RATHER, I MEAN, IT'S GOTTEN HIM AT THREE, SO I GUESS THE NEIGHBORS KNOW IT COULD ALREADY, THAT HOUSE COULD BE TORN DOWN AND A CONSIDERABLE MULTIUNIT, YOU KNOW, COMPLEX COULD BE PUT THERE. UH, BUT THE FUTURE PLANS FOR INFIELD SHOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN IT, UM, KIND OF OUR FOUR ARE IN ONE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO IT IT'S, IT'S INTENDED FOR A LOT MORE HOUSING, UH, BUT NOT, UM, NOT COMMERCIAL OR, UM, OFFICE. SO I GUESS THERE'S KEEPING IN LINE WITH THE PLANS FOR THAT, UH, THAT CORRIDOR IT'S IT'S IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FOR, UH, MEANT FOR, UM, A SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY TYPE USE. SO JUST IN KEEPING WITH THE PLANS FOR, UH, INFIELD, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BUT I MEAN, THEY COULD END UP WITH A UNIT THERE WITH A LOT OF UNITS. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY POSITION. ANY QUESTIONS WISHING TO SPEAK FOR PUSH YOUR HAND, PULL YOU WANTED TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. OKAY. UM, I GUESS MORE NEUTRAL THAN ANYTHING I'LL, I'LL BE VOTING. NO, BUT I, I THINK, UM, THE, THE USE SEEMS JUST A LITTLE LIKE A ONE OFF. UM, I, I THINK THAT IT COULD BE VIABLE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH MORE OF A PLANNING PROCESS WHERE YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE SYSTEMS COMING TOGETHER, THE, THE BUS ROUTE, THE SIDEWALKS, AND MAYBE GROUPING THOSE USES IN A BETTER WAY, LIKE THEY HAVE ON WESTLAND AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS. UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE BEST USE FOR THIS SITE AS A, AS A SINGLE PLOT OF LANE. SO, ALRIGHT. HEY, CRUSHERS, WISHING TO SPEAK FOR ANY COMMISSIONERS PUSHING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL DOWN IS PLUTO. THANK YOU. I'M, I'M, UH, MOSTLY GOING TO BE, UM, VOTING AGAINST, ALTHOUGH I'VE BEEN LEANING NEUTRAL, BUT IN ONE, IN, IN THE RESPONSE TO WHAT I THINK ARE VERY VALID CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE ACTUAL EMPIRICAL EXPERIENCE AND THE LAYOUT OF THESE STREETS, UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE THEORY OF PLANNING ON THE CORRIDORS, UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT ENFIELD AND THE WAY THAT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON ENFIELD WOULD ACTUALLY IMPACT TRAFFIC. UM, SO I THINK A LOT OF CONCERNS ARE VALID AS WELL BE PUTTING AGAINST. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS VACATIONING TO SPEAK FOR? I WILL JUST MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT. THIS IS NOT SPEAKING FOR GUESTS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING MY DYING AND JUST SAY IT, BUT I THINK AS WE INVOKE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN, SO START SOON WHEN TALK ABOUT THE HISTORIC GUY, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS NOT, MAYBE NOT SPEAK FOR THAT COMMUNITY IS HURTFUL AS BRESLIN'S GONNA TO BRING THAT UP WITHOUT MENTIONING THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE. SO, UM, THAT PART OF DOWN, HE MAKES THESE FOUR BIKE RESIDENTS, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST FOOD MEN'S DOWNS IN OUR CITY. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HISTORY AND THINK Y'ALL ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT'S THAT WE WERE AT A SPEAKERS. LET'S TAKE A VOTE, VOTE ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO REZONE FROM M U N P ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, ALL OPPOSED [04:40:02] ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. UM, AND I THINK I HAD A LATE ANY ABSTAINING. OKAY. UH, I THINK I MISSED YOU KRISHA IF WE CAN ALL GO GREEN AGAIN SO I CAN JUST GET A GOOD COUNT THERE. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, EIGHT FOR A MOTION PASSES. UM, THE REZONING HAS BEEN PASSED ALONG THROUGH RECOMMENDATION. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS. IT IS 11 O'CLOCK. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE, UH, ITEM 19, THE KEMP STREET REZONING, A MONTOPOLIS. WE HAVE MMM, 26, WHICH WAS PULLED, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY BE BRIEF THE VEGA MULTIFAMILY. UM, AND YEAH, THAT IS IT FOR OUR DISCUSSION CASES. UH, UM, THE, UH, UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, FORTUNATELY I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THESE CASES, UH, AND DO, ARE FAIRLY BRIEF BUSINESS TOWARDS THE END. WE'RE GOING TO BE SAFELY AT 1145. SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSION. UM, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY MESSAGES, ALTHOUGH I HAVE ASKED, UH, IF PEOPLE WANT TO POSTPONE THEIR CASES. SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME, MR. THOMPSON, TO WHAT TIME? 1145, 1145, THE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. DO I HAVE A SECOND? MISSIONER IS OUR SECONDS ALL IN FAVOR? GO GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, OR A SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE. UM, MR. AND KRISTER KASIER AND KESHER HIMMLER AGAINST SO NINE THREE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING TIME TILL 1145. UM, AT THIS POINT, COMMISSIONERS, UM, AS A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING, UH, I THINK THERE WAS [Consent Agenda (Part 2 of 3)] A CLERICAL ERROR AND, AND ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS, UM, ITEM V TO, UH, WE HAD APPROVED ON CONSENT FOR A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 14TH. UM, THAT IS THE DAVID CHAPEL MISSIONARY, UH, CASE. UM, I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE ORIGINAL NOTATION ON THE, ON THE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR STEPH WAS FROM, INTO AUGUST 11TH IS ACTUALLY THE CORRECT ONE. UM, SO CAN I, UM, CAN I ASK A MEMBER, A COMMISSIONER WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO MOVE TO RECONSIDER AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER WHO VOTED IN FAVOR TO SECOND THAT MOTION. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UH, MOVING COMMISSIONER. SCHNEIDER'S SECOND. UM, SO RECONSIDERING ITEM B TO THE, UH, ACTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL JULY 14TH. UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO POSTPONE ACTUALLY STEFAN SWIMMER TO AUGUST 11TH ON THAT FOR SURE. SHEA, THAT MAKES 12. UM, SO THAT ONE HAS BEEN CORRECTED AND THEN, UH, [Item B12 (Part 2 of 3)] COMMISSIONER SHAY, I THINK ON THE, UM, UH, WHICH ONE WAS THAT THE B12, WHICH IS THE 52 OH ONE EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING THAT WE RECOMMENDED FOR MR. SHAY, YOU VOTED IN FAVOR OF THAT. I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE WISHING TO RISK RECONSIDER THAT VOTE IN FAVOR. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. I'D LIKE TO RECONSIDER THAT THOUGH IN FAVOR. UM, I VOTED FOR IT AND I GUESS I NEED A SECOND TO, UM, TO LISTEN INTO THAT VOTE. UM, MR. ZAR IS GOING TO SUCK AT THAT MOTION. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT TAKES A TWO THIRDS VOTE TO RECONSIDER, UH, ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN. SO THERE'LL BE EIGHT OF US HERE TONIGHT, OR I'M SORRY, NINE. UM, SO, UM, THE REASONS THAT I LIKE TO RECONSIDER, THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD THAT ACTUALLY COME BACK WITH, LIKE HAVING 50% OF THE UNITS BEING AFFORDABLE. AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED A LOT OF IDEAS AND WE HAVE GOTTEN SO CLOSE TO POTENTIALLY FINDING A WAY TO KIND OF LOCK THIS IN, WHETHER IT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE COUNCIL TO HAVE SOME RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WHO WE CAN, UH, HAVE THAT PARTY SIGNED TO EVEN WITH THE AUTOBAHN SOCIETY. I MEAN, I'VE HEARD IDEAS FROM THE ENGINEER ABOUT DIFFERENT, UM, STRATEGIES TO APPROACH, UH, BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS. AND THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS, BUT WE DIDN'T GIVE THE CHANCE FOR ANYBODY TO, TO ACTUALLY COME BACK TO US FOR IT. SO IT IS IN MY EYE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S MY THOUGHT. I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THAT CHANCE. AND, UH, I MEAN, WHAT I LOVE TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SEND THEM BACK AND REALLY EXPLORE THESE POSSIBILITIES BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S IDEAS OR STRATEGIES. AND, UM, AT THAT POINT WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW TO PURSUE IT IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THIS, THEN WE'LL BE BACK WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, NOW THE BIG QUESTION IS, IS, IS THE TIMING BAD FOR THE APPLICANT? AND, [04:45:01] UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO WEEKS, MAYBE JULY 14TH, I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME ATTAWAY TIME FOR THEM WITHOUT DELAYING THEM TOO MUCH. UH, SO THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO BY RECONSIDERING THIS VOTE SO WE CAN AFFORD, UH, POSSIBLY A POSTPONEMENT VOTE, UM, IN ORDER TO GIVE THE PARTIES A CHANCE TO, TO EXPLORE THIS. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MOTION MAKER. UM, SO , UH, I, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY SAID A JULY 14TH TO POSTPONE. IT WAS FINE. AND THEY, THEY WELCOME THE CHANCE TO GET A STRAIGHT AS YOUR INTENTION. IF THIS MOTION PASSES TO THEN MOVE TO POSTPONE TO JULY 14TH. YES, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO DO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL EMOTION? AND I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT IT'S A SIMPLE MAJORITY, IT'S NOT A TWO THIRDS, MAJORITY, TWO THIRDS IS TO RESEND AN ITEM. UM, SO WE WILL, UH, THIS, IF, IF THIS MOTION PASSES, UM, IT WILL BE TIME TO, UH, TO MAKE THE VOTE. UM, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT VOTE IF THAT VOTE FAILS A SIMPLE MAJORITY AT THAT TIME. SURE. ANDREW RIVERA. YES. I NEED TO HAVE THE COMMISSION AT EASE FOR TWO MINUTES. SORRY, SAY AGAIN, COMMISSIONER HERBERT OR MR. RIVERA. I NEED TO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION HAD EASE FOR FIVE MINUTES. I THINK THE LAWYERS ARE TELLING US SOMETHING. UM, GUYS, LET'S, UH, LET'S SAY ENTITIES FOR TWO MINUTES. ALRIGHT. UM, WE HAD A STREAMING ISSUE FOR A MOMENT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REDO [Consent Agenda (Part 3 of 3)] THE VOTE ON B2, WHICH WAS THE, UM, UH, RECONSIDERATION AND THEN POSTPONEMENT OF THE ITEM THAT WE INCORRECTLY POSTPONED UNTIL, UH, JULY 14. UM, SO, UH, KIND OF A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON CONSENT TO POSTPONE ITEM B TWO TO JULY 14TH, MOVED BY COMMISSIONERS OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER IN FAVOR OF, UH, RECONSIDERING, SORRY. UH, PRESSURES ARE, UH, TO RESCIND THAT VOTE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THEN COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECONDING WE'RE SENDING, IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT SHE PUSHED FOR SCHNEIDER. OKAY. UH, YES. MR. RIVERA, WE CAN RECONSIDER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RECONSIDER A KOSHER. IS OUR, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. SCHNEIDER, IS THAT CORRECT? HE'S HOLDING UP GREEN. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING, GREEN, GREEN, GREEN. THAT IS, UH, NINE, 10, 11. UM, OKAY. SO, UH, WE ARE RECONSIDERING THAT VOTE, SO IT WAS NO LONGER PART OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION. SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM B TO, UH, FOR A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO AUGUST 11TH, MOVE BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECOND, LIKE COMMISSIONER SHAY, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. THAT MAKES 12 TO ZERO. UM, GREAT. AND THEN, UH, [Item B12 (Part 3 of 3)] MOVING ON TO ITEM B12, UH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. UM, WELL, COMMISSIONER SHADE. YOU WANT TO REMAKE YOUR MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON ITEM B12? YES. I LIKE TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON ITEM B12. I VOTED FOR IT. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED RARELY DO I HAVE A SECOND WHO VOTED IN FAVOR, UH, TO RESEND ANY QUESTIONERS ARE SECONDS? UM, SO THIS WOULD ALLOW, UH, AFTER WE TAKE THIS BOAT, IF WE APPROVE IT, WE WOULD RETAKE THE VOTES OF, FOR THE RECOMMENDATION ON B12. AND IF THAT VOTE FAILS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSIDER A POSTPONEMENT. SO ALL YOU HAVE, UH, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION OR HAVE A QUESTION, WHICH IS, ARE I WAS JUST GOING TO QUICKLY SAY, I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA IN VISITOR CONSIDERING THE THINGS AND THE CULTURE SHE HAS LAID OUT, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO GO BACK AND DO SOME WORK. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY ANYTHING JUST IN TERMS OF RECONSIDERING RECONSIDERED BOARDS BEFORE. SO AT THIS POINT I ALMOST SEE IT AS A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION OF EACH OTHER, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IT. ALRIGHT. DOES ANYONE WISH TO ELSE TOUCH THIS TO SPEAK ON THE VOTE TO RECONSIDER B12? SO WHAT DO WE AGREE? WE'RE JUST RECONSIDERING THAT, UH, SO WE ARE GOING TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE ON B12, SO WE'RE NOT RESCINDING. SO THAT MEANS WE VOTE AGAIN. UM, AND IF THE VOTE, UH, WHICH THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WAS TO RECOMMEND FOR MF THREE FAILS DOES NOT GARNER SEVEN VOTES. [04:50:01] AT THAT POINT, SOMEONE COULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT FOR SAY TWO WEEKS. OKAY. SO WE'RE FIRST GOING TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO RECONSIDER. AND THEN THE SECOND TIME WE WILL VOTE AGAIN ON THE MOTION. AND IF THAT FAILS, THERE MIGHT BE A MOTION FOR POST BOND. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER B12 RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE 10 ALL ABSTAIN, ALL OPPOSE THAT'S I'M SORRY. UH, I THINK I HAD, THAT IS NINE TWO. UM, SO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER PASSES. SO THE MOTION, UH, ON THE TABLE IS TO, UM, IS TO, TO RECOMMEND FOR MF THREE, UH, UH, WHICH IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR, OR AGAINST THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR MF THREE? UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND JUST SAY THAT, UM, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM AND I'M VOTING THIS DOWN AND THEN APPROVING A MOTION TO POSTPONE BY TWO WEEKS. PRETTY LOUSY ZONE. IT'S VERY AUTOCENTRIC SO ANY CHANCE, ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS MOTION? ALL RIGHT. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR GO GREEN TO, UM, ALL ABSTAINING, NONE. I'LL OPPOSE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SIX, SEVEN EIGHT, NINE, UM, TWO ZERO TWO NINE ZERO. UM, SO AT THAT FLOOR IS OPEN COMMISSIONER SHADE. YOU HAVE A EMOTION I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT TO THE JULY 14TH MEETING. I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECONDS. UM, MS. KOSHER SHADE, YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. YEAH. UH, I MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT I THINK, UH, THE KEY THING IS THAT I FEEL LIKE THE APPLICANT AND ALL THE PARTIES KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AT THIS POINT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE WHAT THEIR VISION IS. UM, I THINK MANY OF US SUPPORT THAT VISION AND THERE MIGHT BE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATIVITY ON HOW WE ENGINEER THINGS AND HOW WE STRUCTURE THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE COULD BE JUST STRATEGIES CAUSE NOT, YOU KNOW, BUT AT LEAST IT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE PREDICTABILITY ON WHAT TO VOTE FOR. UM, I THINK THE MAIN THING IS IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GET, UM, YOU KNOW, AN AMAZING PROJECT THAT, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WE HAD A PROJECT THAT SAID, HEY, WE'LL SEND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE. SO IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT ALONG WITH, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN CORRIDORS. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR WISH TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION COMMISSIONER SHAW? UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTION. THEY GO TO JULY 28TH, JUST CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER. MR. SHOW, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO KEEP A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN FOR LONGER THAN 14 DAYS, BUT AT THE JULY 14TH MEETING WE CAN MOVE TO POSTPONE OR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS. OKAY. I JUST WISH WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS ON HERE, THE PARK PEOPLE, BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN MOVE AT JULY 14TH TO POSTPONE ANOTHER TWO WEEKS AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN INTERRUPT DEBATE AND, AND MOVE THAT YOU CAN DO IT. DOES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WISH TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION FOR SURE ARE. AND THEN COMMISSIONER, I WOULD JUST SAY, IF YOU LIKE ECHOING WORK WITH YOUR SHORTS, MY HOPE WILL BE THAT THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH EAST OAKLAND GOT THAT AND WORKS WITH THEM ON THIS MOVING FORWARD. I ALSO WANT TO SAY LIKE, UM, IF THERE ARE PINKY MORE ADVISING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT SMART HOUSES SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM PLAY AROUND WITH, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE AFFORDABILITY VA VERSUS THE WORK UNITS TO SEE IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO WORK. SOMETHING THAT INCREASES THE AFFORDABILITY BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED IN SMART HOUSE. ALL RIGHT. LET ME SHARE YOUR HONEST RETAIL. I THINK FROM A PROCESS POINT, THIS IS EXTREMELY TROUBLING. I THINK WE HAD AN ENTIRE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CASE AND WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF OPPOSITION AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE MERITS OF ALL OF IT. I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M GLAD THERE WILL BE TIME FOR THERE TO BE MORE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M NOT SENSING A REAL DESIRE TO DO MAJOR CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE DRAMATIC IMPACT OF THIS IN A PERMANENT WAY ON AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA. UM, BUT FROM A PROCESS POINT I'M COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE DOING WHEN IT STARTED. AND I'M CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW AND I EXPECT THE CITY [04:55:01] AND COMMISSIONERS TO BE PROACTIVE AND MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE FROM THEIR SPAM STANDPOINT, THEY WAITED HOURS TO SPEAK IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND THAT THEY, IT WAS FINALLY DONE. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S BACK AND IT'S A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS GOOD AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING IT. IT'S SPECIAL. WE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION. CAN I START PLANNING AND ZONING? I JUST WANT IT TO BE AVAILABLE. I, UH, WAS DUMPED OUT OF THE MEETING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. AGAIN, NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO SPOKE ON THIS PREVIOUSLY ARE ONLINE AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? NO, THAT'S FINE. WE WE'VE CLOSED THE QUESTION AND ANSWER IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO WE ARE JUST AN EMOTIONS AT THIS POINT. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE HEARING FROM ANYBODY AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. JOHNSON. UM, CHRISTINA ANDERSON, YOU SPEAK FOR THE MOTION. YEAH. AND THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO MAKE SOMETHING EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT IT WAS. I THINK IT WAS WORTH TAKING. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROCESS IS SET UP TO DO. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK IN TWO WEEKS. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. ALRIGHT. UM, LET'S, LET'S TAKE A LOOK, BUT I JUST WANT TO NOTE, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS VOTED TO CLOSE, BUT THE VOTE WAS TAKEN AND NOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT BOAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THE SAME PUBLIC HEARING. I MEAN, ART, WE GOT THE INPUT, BUT IT, FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, FOR THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS TOTALLY OUT OF ORDER. SO, UM, I MEAN, BY THE RULES ADOPTED BY THIS BODY, WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, AND THEN WE HAVE MOTIONS AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE RULES ADOPTED BY THE SPOTTY AND THAT'S THE RULES BY WHICH WE HAVE ALL OF OUR CASES. SO, UM, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO POSTPONE THE CASE UNTIL JULY 14TH. UM, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN THREE, FOUR, FIVE ONE TWO THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, ALL OPPOSED, GO RED ONE, TWO, AND ALL ABSTAINING GO YELLOW ONE. OKAY. SO NOW IT WAS A NINE TOO NINE ONE TWO. UM, SO THAT MOTION PASSES TO THAT CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL JULY 14TH. I THINK IT WAS NINE TO ONE, HOW THEIR CABIN CLEANING AND FARMING ITEM IS TO BE RECONSIDERED IS THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE OPENED AGAIN. MMM. I AM NOT ADVISED ON THIS POINT IF A PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED AND THEN THE COMMISSION POSTPONES AN ITEM, WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE ABLE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THAT THE VOTE HAS BEEN TAKEN, WE WILL, WE WILL CONSULT IN THE, IN THE INTERIM. AND, UH, UM, AND IF THERE IS TO BE A DECISION MADE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT IT TO THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, BUT I WILL REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION ON, ON HOW WE INTERACT WITH THE BYLAWS ON THIS CASE. YES, THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PEOPLE WHO AT THIS POINT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I WILL CONCUR WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT. THEY ARE STILL PROHIBITED FROM SPEAKING IF IT IS RIGHT. AND, AND IF, IF, IF THE BYLAWS AND A CITY CODE DOES ALLOW THE CONDITION TO REOPEN THE HEARING, THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT THAT TO THE, TO THE BODY, TO, TO VOTE ON. AND WE CAN ALSO ASK QUESTIONS TO WHATEVER PARTIES DID. THAT IS ALSO TRUE. YES. COMMISSIONER CZAR, JAMIE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIAISON, ANDREW RIVERA HAVE MR. RIVERA. SO ONCE YOU PLACED IT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT, MAYBE ON JULY 14TH, IT WILL BE A ACTION ITEM. THEREFORE THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON IT. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES. UM, SO WE ARE BACK 1118. UM, THE NEXT CASE [Item B19] THAT IS UP IS BY THE WAY, CHEMISTRY, UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, [05:00:01] WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE TO CONFIRM THAT YOU WISH TO PROCEED. CAN I ASK THIS FOR ALL THE CASES LEFT TONIGHT? YES, I AM HERE. OKAY. AND YOU WISH TO PROCEED WITH THE CASE TONIGHT? I'M SORRY. YES, PLEASE. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEP. I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY, GREAT. UM, KATIE CLARK, ARE YOU HERE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN LOUD AND CLEAR PLEASE PRESENT CASE B 19 FIVE OH EIGHT, KENNETH STREET, C 14 2020 DASH ZERO THREE EIGHT. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, MY NAME IS KATE CLARK. I'M WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT FIVE OH EIGHT KENT STREET, AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.16 ACRES IN SIZE. IT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE AND IS ADJACENT TO THE NORTH TO RESERVE RIGHT AWAY FOR A FUTURE SECTION OF GROVE BOULEVARD. THIS PROPERTY SURROUNDED BY SFX NPS DOWNING TO THE NORTH, TO EAST AND SOUTH ADJACENT TO THE WEST. OUR TRACKS SOUND G R C O N T, WHICH IS THE LOCATION FOR THE ECOLOGY ACTION CIRCLE ACRES NATURE PRESERVE THAT'S IT'S RECOMMENDING DENIAL. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE TO SSX MP. THE SITE IS LOCATED INTERNAL TO THE MEN TOP OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS NOT LOCATED ALONG THE THROUGH STREET, NOR IS IT CLOSE TO OR HAS EASY ACCESS TO A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. SO THEY DON'T NEED DISTRICT OF SSP IS MORE APPROPRIATE ALONG MAJOR COLLECTORS OR THOROUGHFARES AND OR TOWARDS THE EDGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARY. UM, A PETITION WAS FILED ON THIS REZONING CASE. STAFF IS IN THE PROCESS OF CALCULATING AND VERIFYING THE RESULTS. I DO NOT HAVE THOSE FREEDOMS THIS EVENING, BUT THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEXT PERSON OF THE STAFF REPORT. UM, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SOME GREAT, THANK YOU. UM, CAN I HEAR, UH, UM, MS. BODO, DO YOU WISH TO PRESENT AT THIS TIME, ARE YOU IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO PRESENT? SURE. AND I WILL, I WILL TRY TO MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THE CASE. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE STAYING UP LATE AND HEARING THIS CASE FOR US. UM, I ONLY HAVE, OH, JOE, UH, RECORD FROM GENERAL GROUP HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, UM, SIDE TOO. UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE REQUESTING TO RESIGN FROM SF THREE AND P TO SF SIX NP. AND WE ARE SPECIFICALLY MAKING THIS REQUEST IN ORDER TO USE THE CONDOMINIUM RESIDENTIAL BASED DISTRICT. UM, WHILE I, THAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF OPPOSITION IS BASED ON, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS BASED ON PROXIMITY, CERTAIN STREETS, I WOULD ARGUE, AND IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ON OTHER CASES EARLIER THIS EVENING. UM, BUT THIS YOUTH IS REALLY MUCH MORE ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY. IT PROVIDES INSIGHT DESIGN, UM, PARTICULARLY ON SITES THAT ARE DEEP AND WITH, AND WITH NARROW, RELATIVELY NARROW FRONTAGE THAN IT IS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF STREET THAT THE SITE IS LOCATED ON. UM, TO, TO ORIENT YOU A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE THIS CASE IS LOCATED, I'M ON SLIDE THREE NOW. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A, A FAIRLY LARGE LOT CURRENTLY ZONED DESK. THAT'S THREE ABOUT A BLOCK OFF MONTOPOLIS, WHICH WILL SERVE THE SITE WITH TRANSIT. YOU CAN ALSO SEE A BIT FROM THE ZOOMED OUTSIDE THAT THE SITES AT HIGH ON A BLAST, UH, THE LAND BEHIND IT AS MUCH LOWER AND THE BACK PORTION OF THAT SITE HAS A STEEP GRADE, UM, BUT WILL NOT BE BUILT ON FOR ALL THAT EXISTING, ALL THOSE EXISTING TREES ALONG THAT FOCUS AREA WILL BE LEFT IN THEIR NATURAL STATE. UM, HERE ON A, ON A MORE ZOOMED IN SITE, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON IT. THAT'S ABOUT 1700 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND WAS BUILT IN 1978. YOU CAN ALSO GET A FEEL FROM THIS MORE ZOOMED IN SLIDE, UH, FOR, UH, THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 17 HERITAGE OR PROTECTED TREES. UM, THERE'S CONSIDERABLE GREAT AND TOPOGRAPHY TO WORK AROUND. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE ARE REQUESTING CONDOMINIUM RESIDENTIAL USE BECAUSE THAT USE WILL ALLOW US TO DESIGN A SITE AROUND THOSE TREES WHERE STANDARD SUBDIVISION WOULD NOT, UH, ON SLIDE FIVE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP THAT, THAT KATE REFERENCED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE ECOLOGY ACTION SITE BEHIND US TO THE LAST AND ON SLIDE SEVEN, YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. UM, YOU MIGHT NOTICE THAT THERE'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, PLUM AMENDMENT ACCOMPANYING THE ZONING CASE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE, UM, THIS REPRESENTING REQUESTS IS WITHIN WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, SAYS, UM, SHOULD BE ON THE SITE. UM, AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT MEETS ONE OF THE MAIN OBJECTIVES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH IS CREATING MULTIPLE HOUSING TYPES OF VARIED INTENSITIES ON SLIDE SEVEN. UM, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A VERY HIGHLY CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT. UM, AND, AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AND WHY WE THINK WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FITS IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A VARIETY OF SMALLER HOMES. THIS WOULD BE A [05:05:01] HOMES FOR SALE, UM, AND, UH, THE RANGING IN SIZE FROM, UH, UH, 1100 TO 2000 SQUARE FEET. AND FROM TWO TO FOUR BEDROOMS, UM, THE SFX ALLOWS US TO PUT THESE SMALLER HOMES, SORT OF NESTLED INTO THE SITE, NESTLED INTO THE GRADE CHANGES AND CREATING A DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY FITS IN WITH, WITH THE SITE IN ITS, IN ITS NATURAL STATE. UM, WE HAVE THROUGH SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, WITH COMMISSIONERS AND WITH, AND WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND OTHERS, UM, THOUGHT HARD ABOUT WHAT COMMUNITY BENEFITS WE COULD PROVIDE. I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE EIGHT NOW. UM, AND SO ONE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN COMMITTING TO IS TO PROVIDE ONE AFFORDABLE UNIT AT 80% MFI, UM, SORT OF THE IDEA BEING TO, TO MAINTAIN THE ONE AFFORDABLE UNIT THAT'S THAT IS THERE TODAY, UM, THAT IS BEING SOLD. UM, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO PROVIDE, UM, A PUBLIC ACCESS, BUT WHEN IT, PROBABLY ONE OF THE, THE COOLEST THINGS ABOUT THIS SITE IS THAT IT IS ON THAT BLUFF. AND SO, SO ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE, THERE'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL LOOKOUT AREA. AND, AND WE HAD PLANNED FOR THAT TO BE A PRIVATE AMENITIES FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS. AND WE REALIZED THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT PUBLIC AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD USE AS WELL. THERE'LL BE A PLAYSCAPE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY SOME, SOME SEATING THERE AND, UH, AND A BEAUTIFUL VIEW. AND SO WE CAN COMMIT AS WELL THAT WE WOULD ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT SITE, UM, THROUGH THAT, THROUGH, THROUGH THE SITE, TO THAT SPACE. SO THAT, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN A PRIVATE VIEW TODAY, IT WOULD BE A, UM, A PUBLIC VIEW AND WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE COULD SHARE. AND WE CAN SEE ON THIS SIDE SORT OF IN, TOWARD THAT UPPER RIGHT CORNER, WHERE THAT AREA WOULD BE LOCATED AND WHY THAT LOOKOUT WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND HERE'S ACTUALLY A, A PICTURE OF THAT INCREDIBLE VIEW, UM, THAT HAS BEEN PRIVATE TODAY AND IT WOULD BECOME PUBLIC. UM, AND IT, AND IT WORKS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT WE'RE LAYING OUT THE SITE. UM, IF WE'RE ABLE TO USE THE, THE KIND OF INDIAN RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UM, TO CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHILE, WHILE WE DO NOT HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT, UNFORTUNATELY, AND WE HAVE DONE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH AND ONE PARTICULAR NEIGHBOR THAT WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE. THE SUPPORT OF IS FLORENCE, WHO IS OUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET WHO RUNS FLORENCE'S COMFORT HOUSE. UM, SHE IS, SHE IS SOMEONE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SINCE WE STARTED DESIGNING THE SITE, UM, AMONG OTHERS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR ASEPTIC SENDING REQUESTS. AND, UM, OF COURSE I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE, UH, DAVID A CORNER FORWARD. OH. SO DAVE IS, UM, WAS, IS ON EARLIER. I'M KNOW I CAN HE'S HE IS THE DEVELOPER AND I CAN, HE'S AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR I CAN REALLY THE QUESTIONS TO HIM. OKAY. YEAH, HE WAS JUST NEXT ON MY LIST. ALL RIGHT. UM, IN OPPOSITION, UH, THEN WE HAVE, UH, SEVEN SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, UM, SUSANNA ALMANZA ON THE LINE. AND EVERYBODY, UH, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL CURRENTLY MUTED AND YOU CAN STAR SIX TO UNMUTE SUSANA. ALMANZA ARE YOU ON THE LINE? STEPH IS TELLING ME THEY DON'T HAVE HER ON THE LINE. UH, PETER SIMON KNIGHT. ARE YOU ON THE LINE? HELLO, THIS IS PETER SAMSONITE. THANK YOU, PETER. UM, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, SUSANNA ON THE LINE, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THE FULL SIX MINUTES OF THE PRIMARY REBUTTAL IF YOU WISH. UM, SURE. WHY NOT? SO GO AHEAD. WELL, HI, UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR STAYING UP LATE. MY NAME IS PETER SIMON. I, I LIVE ON KENNETH STREET AND, UH, I'M HERE WITH ANY GUN, MY PARTNER, UM, AND WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING. AND WE AGREE WITH THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO OPPOSE REZONING. UM, I JUST WANT TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. I HEARD KATE MENTIONED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS SURROUNDED BY SF SIX. THAT'S NOT CORRECT. IT'S SS THREE ALL THE WAY AROUND. UM, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THERE'S NO SSX ON THE STREET AT ALL. UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE STREET, BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S ONE LONG STRIP THAT DOESN'T CONNECT TO ANYTHING ELSE. THERE'S NO CROSS STREETS. SO WE AGREE THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO MANAGE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT IN BY THE NUMBER OF HOMES THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING BUILDING. UM, IT WOULD LITERALLY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES ON THIS STREET, JUST THIS ONE PROPERTY. AND AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL FROM THE OTHER ZONING CASES, [05:10:01] LIKE THERE'S POTENTIALLY UP TO 200 NEW HOUSES ON THIS STREET, AND THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT MUCH TRAFFIC ON THE STREET. UM, I DON'T SEE MUCH PUBLIC BENEFIT AND THE VIEW THERE'S LOTS OF VIEWS AROUND HERE. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S PARKS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S ASKING FOR THAT. SO I DID HEAR FROM A, UM, REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER WHO, UM, LET ME KNOW THAT THEY EXPECTED TO GET ABOUT $400 A SQUARE FOOT FOR THESE HOUSES, UM, WHICH IS IN NO WAY AFFORDABLE TO THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SINCE A LOT OF THEM WERE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SIGN UP FOR THIS, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK UP FOR THEM BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RACIAL INEQUITY AND, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CLARKSVILLE AND RACIAL INEQUITY IN PARKSVILLE, I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER MONTOPOLIS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. IT'S JUST AS OLD AS CLARKSVILLE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS CURRENTLY, UM, LARGELY BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S A THRIVING COMMUNITY, UM, THAT DOESN'T NEED THIS PROJECT. THERE'S, UM, ALREADY A, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND I HEARD LEAH SAY THAT THIS SF SIX WAS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT. UM, THIS IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. WE NEED OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN HERE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PEOPLE, KID PLAYING ON THE STREET. UM, THERE'S DEERS THERE'S VIEWS. IT'S CONNECTED TO THE PARK, BUT WE REALLY DON'T NEED THIS AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS AMOUNT OF DENSITY ON THE STREET. THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNED FOR THIS KIND OF DENSITY. NOT TOO FAR AWAY ON MONTOPOLIS THAT ARE, ARE NOT YET BUILT. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD, WE WOULD NEED THIS. UM, YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? OH, WELL, YEAH. UH, ANOTHER PERSON WHO I KNOW WANT TO JOIN TONIGHT WAS, UM, FROM ECOLOGY ACTION. HE WANTED ME TO MENTION THAT THE BACK HALF OF THIS LOT IS, UM, WITHIN THE LANDFILL BUFFER, AND IT'S ALSO LIKE A MAJOR, UM, I'M NOT AN ECOLOGY PERSON, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RUNOFF THAT GOES DOWN THROUGH THERE. IT'S A WATERSHED AREA, THERE'S CRITICAL WATER ZONE, AND IT RUNS DIRECTLY INTO THE COLORADO RIVER. THERE'S UM, A LOT OF WILDLIFE, THERE'S A MIGRATORY BIRDS, UH, CONNECTED TO A WILDLIFE PRESERVE. I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING ECOLOGY. ANY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? YEAH. I MEAN, I'M HOPING SUSANNA COMES ON CAUSE I'M SURE SHE HAS A LOT TO SAY, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY HERE TO SUPPORT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE TALKED TO ALMOST ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS. WE TALK, WE WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY. THERE'S NOBODY, EXCEPT FOR FLORENCE THAT WOULD, WOULD, UM, SUPPORT THIS. AND I HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPERS, UM, ADVOCATE THAT THEY HAD GIVEN MONEY TO HER CHARITY. SO IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE HE WAS BASICALLY TELLING ME THEY'D BRIBED HER WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I'M SORRY, BUT, UM, UM, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE REGINA MITCHELL. OH, WOW. COOL. GINA, IF, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX, UNMUTE. HELLO, THIS IS REGINA MITCHELL. HI. HI. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, UH, I HAVE JONATHAN DAVIDSON AND NOEY ELIAS. UH, COMING UP, GO AHEAD. UH, REGINA MITCHELL. HI, MY NAME IS MITCHELL. UM, UH, THE I'M HERE FOR THE FALL NUMBER THREE 14 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE EIGHT. UH, I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING, UH THAT'S UH, AND IMPLEMENTED, TRYING TO BE IMPLEMENTED THERE. AND WHAT TOPLESS AREA? UH, THE AREA IN QUESTION FOR ME THAT IS CONCERNED IS MY PARENTS' HOME PROPERTY THERE AT FIVE 13. YUP. THAT IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO FLORENCE, UH, WHO HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. SO PROPERTY IS, IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ME. I TOOK THE PROPERTY THERE THAT I TAKE CARE OF FOR MY MOM AND DAD WHO ARE NO LONGER HERE. UH, I'VE HAD THE PROPERTY, UH, DEMO. I'M CURRENTLY PAYING PROPERTY TAX ON IT AND HELP TO STRUCTURE, BUILD A STRUCTURE THERE, HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT THE REZONING, I AGREE WITH PETER, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE AN ACCEPTABLE AND A DOABLE THING FOR THAT AREA. AS HE STATED, [05:15:01] THAT IS A FAMILY ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, GENTRIFICATION WOULD BE IN PLACE IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WOULD OUT PLACE ANYBODY, UH, AROUND THERE, NO ONE CAN AFFORD A $400 SQUARE FOOT HOME. I SEE THAT ALL OVER AUSTIN, EAST AUSTIN, IT'S A SELLOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GO FOR THE MONEY AND THEY REGRET IT LATER, BUT IT WAS THEIR CHOICE. SO I DO OPPOSE THAT, UM, THIS REZONING AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IN REFERENCE TO IT, SIR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICATION. THANK YOU AS JONATHAN AND DAVIDSON ON THE LINE. YES, I'M HERE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. I WANTED ALSO TO, UH, AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT, THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID HERE. UH, I WANTED TO ALSO MENTION THAT, UH, AS A PEDESTRIAN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I LIVED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A CAMP ON CLOVIS WHERE IT ENDS TO THE NORTH. UM, THERE HAS BEEN ALSO SOME AGENTS FOR THE DEVELOPER, ONE OF WHOM THAT LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS, UH, INSINUATED TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT IF THEY OPPOSE THIS, UH, IN THE FORM OF A PETITION, THAT THEY WILL BE, UH, REPORTED TO CODE AND FORCED TO, UH, COMPLY TO CODE THAT THEIR HOUSES. AND THE FACT IS THAT MOST OF THESE HOUSES ARE ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THERE'S LOTS OF TACTICS THAT ARE UNAPPRECIATED BY US, AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR THAT KIND OF STUFF. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF THIS IS ALL A WATER WATERFRONT OVERLAY, AND IT ALL HAS SOME, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER ISSUES THAT THE HIGHER PERCENTAGE ISN'T, UH, I THINK AT 60 OR 65% AND SFX WOULD ACTUALLY BE RAISED UP FROM 40% RATHER THAN 45 BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED AMOUNT. UM, I THINK THE, JUST THE EFFORT TO REZONE THESE LOTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, ON THE WHOLE SIDE OF CAMP, THAT WHOLE CARD, OR YOU'LL HAVE SOME MORE THAT HAVE BEEN POSTPONED TILL NEXT MONTH. I THINK, UM, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT. WE START TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR YOU TO BE FAMILIAR WITH IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME VERY, VERY SPECIFIC AND VERY STRANGE ASPECTS TO THE ROADWAYS, UH, OF THIS AREA AS FAR AS ACCESS. ANOTHER THING IS TO THE HIGHWAY THAT HAS JUST BEEN EXPANDED BY EIGHT LANES THAT GOES RIGHT OVER THE COLORADO RIVER IS, UH, ANOTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FOREST THAT HAS DEFINITELY AFFECTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY AND THE FLOW OF THE RIVER, IN FACT. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE AS SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE AS WE CAN. UH, WHEN IT TALK, TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS, UH, REZONING OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN OF LESS THAN 20 YEARS AGO IS JUST NOT THE IT'S JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING IS NOEY ELIAS ON THE LINE AND HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. HELLO? YES, NO ELIAS. YES, THERE WAS NO, YEAH. OKAY. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? OKAY. YES. YES. I JUST ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY. SO NO. WELL, UM, UH, UM, I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS. I'M HOPING THAT , CAN YOU ADJUST THE PHONE OR SOMETHING? YES, NO. UH, COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY INTO THE PHONE? YEAH. CAN YOU ONLY SEND ME NOW? I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU OKAY. SO ONE THING THAT MY NEIGHBORS WERE BRINGING UP THIS NATURE, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT AND SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NATURE BEING PART OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND ONE THING THAT I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IS THAT IT SAID JASON TO ECOLOGY ACTION CIRCLE. SOMEBODY ALREADY KNOWS IT. UM, AND JUST THE HISTORY OF ECOLOGY I CAN CIRCLE ACRE SAYS THAT HE USED TO BE A LANDFILL THAT WAS CLEANED UP AND AS NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WE COME TO REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UM, YOU KNOW, BRINGS US TOGETHER, UH, ALLOWS US TO WALK ON NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEET EACH OTHER. UM, I WANT TO SEE THAT, UM, UH, DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY RIGHT ABOVE A CERTAIN AGENTS, WOULDN'T BE DETRIMENTAL TO THAT, UH, CHANGE. I THINK, ESPECIALLY ONE THING THAT I [05:20:01] LOVE ABOUT CIRCLE, ANYTHING SINCE NATURAL SPRINGS THAT ARE PUMPED THEM FROM A BAR. UM, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT, UM, THAT REALLY SCARES ME ABOUT THIS IS THE AFFORDABILITY PART OF IT. I KNOW THAT LEAH SAID THAT SHE WOULD, THEY WOULD HAVE ONE UNIT 80% MFI, WHICH IS KINDA CRAZY BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO ANYBODY THAT LIVES AROUND THE PROPERTY. NOW, THE MEDIAN INCOME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS $33,000. SO, YOU KNOW, WOULD NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO ANYBODY. UM, I BELIEVE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DO ANY DEVELOPMENT, IT NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE THAT ARE NOW GROWING UP AND TRYING TO BUY A HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THAT TRADITION. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST BUILDING MORE HOUSING, THAT'S NOT MAKE IT AFFORDABLE. UM, WE NEED TO BUILD AN ACTUAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN IF NOT THAT, UM, UH, LIKE FEMALE FRIENDS AND SAYS IN BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS, AND UNFORTUNATELY A PERCENTAGE OF BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES IS DECREASING EVERY YEAR. UM, AND THE STATE WE CAN DO TO AFFORDABILITY AND TAXES. AND I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT HERE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU, SETH HARP ON THE LINE. OKAY. SETH HARP GET HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. OKAY. THIS IS SARAH. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? THANK YOU. THIS IS SO HARD. I POSED THE REZONING, UM, AGAINST NSF SIX HERE, I LIVE AT FOUR 16 KEMP STREET, WHICH IS THE LOT NEXT DOOR TO THE NORTHWEST. UH, AND I, I OPPOSE THIS REZONING FOR TWO MAIN REASONS ON ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BROUGHT UP IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT THE, UH, STAFF RELIED ON RECOMMENDING AGAINST THIS. UH, FIRST OF ALL, SEVERAL DEVELOPERS HAVE ALREADY PROPOSED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THEN DENIED INCLUDING THE LOT IMMEDIATELY TO THE, UH, SOUTH EAST OF THIS, WHICH IS A FIVE ACRE LOT, UH, WHICH IS MUCH MORE SUITABLE FOR CONDOMINIUMS AND THIS LOT. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A QUIET STREET, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE NESTLED INTO A PARK. UH, THERE'S A LOT OF NATURE LOVERS HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, POOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF EMPTY LOTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE SUBDIVIDED OVER THE YEARS AND INCLUDING ANY DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE MADE A FAIRLY NICE PROFIT ON JUST DOING SF THREE LOTS, UH, AGAIN, SEVERAL HAVE TRIED TO GET SFX. AND THEN TONIGHT, UH, WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE, WHICH IS THAT IF ANY LOT ON CAMP STREET WERE TO BE A CONDO LOSS, THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY THE WORST ONE BECAUSE HOW SMALL IT IS, I'LL NARROW. IT IS. AND THE TERRAIN IS REALLY, IT'S SORT OF BUILT ON AN OLD, ILLEGAL LANDFILL THAT USED TO BE THERE, AND IT'S ALL JUMBLED UP WITH A BUNCH OF CONCRETE BLOCKS AND STUFF. UM, AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT SITS DIRECTLY ABOVE, UH, AN ENVIRONMENTAL LEARNING CENTER CALLED HE CALLS THE ACTION, UH, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT SPOTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, FANTASTIC ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT REMEET MEDIATED THE LANDFILL AND MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND CHEMISTRY TO TAKE PLACE BY CARDINEL ALL THE TRASH THAT WAS THERE BY HAND, THEY DO A LOT OF LIKE MY COLLEGE WORK AND RAINWATER COLLECTION AND, AND WETLANDS STUFF, AND, UH, SOIL REMEDIATION AND CITING 30 CONDOS JUST DIRECTLY ABOVE THAT. IT WAS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS WHO WORK DOWN THERE. UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL SAY THEY'LL CASH FOR THE RUN OFF AND, AND BUILD A DETENTION POND, BUT THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THE FACT THAT IT'S, TO ME, 30 TIMES AS MANY CARS, IT'S GONNA BE 30 TIMES AS MUCH TRASH BLOWING DOWN THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 30 TIMES AS MUCH DOG POOP, RUNNING OFF INTO THE, INTO THOSE LITTLE WATER SYSTEMS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CULTIVATE DOWN DOWN THERE. UM, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE STAFF IS IN AGREEMENT ON THIS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONDOS ON KIM STREET, I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE WORST SPOT TO PUT THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET RATHER THAN A ONE END OR THE OTHER, BECAUSE IT'S THE SIZE OF THE STREET, VERY SMALL. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, I KNOW ONCE TO DO URBAN INFILL, BUT THIS IS NOT THE SPOT TO DO IT, TO DO IT IN. AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE OPPOSED HERE. [05:25:01] AND, UH, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH WHAT PETER SAID ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE, UH, INCREASED TRAFFIC. I JUST, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HOW YOU EVEN PUT 30 MORE CARS ON KENNETH STREET. AND I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH WHAT NOAH WAS SAYING ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EFFECT ON, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY THE MAJORITY AROUND HERE IN 30, 30 CONDOS AT $400 A SQUARE FOOT, IT'S GOING TO TURN KEMP STREET WHITE OVERNIGHT, NOT TO PUT TOO FINE A POINT ON IT. UM, SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UH, A TERRIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, SPOTS TO PUT CONDOMS ON AND CONDOS. AND THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER, UH, LOTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN PLOTTED YET THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET SSX IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE CASES ARE ALSO CONTROVERSIAL IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT IT. I THINK THIS PARTICULAR ONE BEING LOCATED DIRECTLY ABOVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CENTER, UM, IT'S JUST HARD TO SEE THAT WORKING, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WAY IT IS, AND IT'S JUST GONNA DISRUPT THE CURRENT COMPOSITION OF IT. YEAH. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSURES 1145. UM, THIS IS OUR LAST DISCUSSION CASE, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, SOME BUSINESS TAKE CARE OF AFTER. DO YOU WANT TO SAY 12, 15? THERE'S ALSO ONE MORE DISCUSSION CASE. YEAH. JEREMY HAD PULLED 26 AS WELL. YEAH. UH, I THINK THAT WON'T PROBABLY GO FAST. SO JEN MOVED TO GO TO MIDNIGHT AND NIGHT. SECOND QUESTION IS, ARE ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT ONE. UH, ALL RIGHT GUYS, IF YOU DON'T HOLD UP YOUR THINGS, I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER. WE'LL DO IT AGAIN. ALRIGHT. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 11 TO ONE TIME IS EXTENDED TO MIDNIGHT. UM, UH, MARION SANCHEZ. DO I HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? MARION SANCHEZ. IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU'RE TALKING, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU PLEASE HIT STAR SIX. OKAY. SHE IS NOT ON THE LINE. UM, DO I HAVE ISAIAH HARP ON THE LINE AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MUTE I'M ON THE LINE. ISAIAH HARP IS ISAIAH . THANK YOU. HERE I AM ON THE LINE COMMISSIONER. GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE THE LAST SPEAKER. OH, GREAT. THE LAST GUY BETWEEN YOU GUYS IN A JOURNEY AND AN ENVIABLE POSITION. THANKS FOR, UH, THANKS FOR LETTING ME TALK. LISTEN, I WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME. I THINK, I THINK PETER NOAH AND SETH IN PARTICULAR, I'VE SAID REALLY ALL THE SALIENT POINTS. AND I ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT. I THINK YOU GUYS FAST KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH THIS ONE, RIGHT? SO THE, THE PROPOSAL HERE ON FIVE OH EIGHT KIM STREET, UH, WOULD LITERALLY VIOLATE ALL OF THE AUSTIN AND MONTOPOLIS STRATEGIC PLANNING PRINCIPLES THAT I KNOW ABOUT TO PRESERVE EQUITY AND EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. UM, BUT I KINDA WANT TO FOOTSTOOL AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT. SO I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF, MY NAME, MY NAME'S ISAIAH, AND I'M CURRENTLY DEVELOPING A PROPERTY DOWN THE STREET ON 62 OH SIX CLOVIS. UM, AS YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN ON YOUR AGENDAS HERE, THERE'S QUITE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS STARTING TO PROPOSE, UH, SSS, UH, IN THIS AREA. AND I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO MAYBE GO TAKE A DRIVE AROUND KEMP STREET IN CLOVIS STREET, UH, AS WE ARE CONSIDERING THESE MULTIPLE PROPOSALS, BECAUSE I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH REALLY HOW UNIQUE THIS AREA IS. IT HAS A TREMENDOUS ACCESS TO GREEN THAT REALLY ISN'T AVAILABLE IN A LOT OF AREAS OF AUSTIN AND PARTICULARLY NOT IN THE MULTIETHNIC MULTIGENERATIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS, SUCH AS, UH, MONTOPOLIS THE PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF THE SF SIX PROPOSALS. AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE FINAL EIGHT KEMP STREET PROPOSAL IS THAT THEY WOULD BE UTTERLY DESTRUCTIVE, ECOLOGICALLY. ALL OF THESE STEEP PLOTS DRAIN DIRECTLY INTO THE COLORADO RIVER AND AUSTIN PARKLANDS. UH, AND MOREOVER, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE APPLICANT SAID THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY SITS HIGH ON A BLUFF AND THEREFORE, UH, IT IS LESS PROBLEMATIC. I WOULD ACTUALLY [05:30:01] ARGUE THE OPPOSITE CASE BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY SITS SO HIGH ON A BLUFF. ONCE YOU PUT 30 CONDOMINIUMS THERE, IT'S GOING TO DEGRADE VIEWS. IT'S GOING TO DEGRADE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE FROM THE NEIGHBORS IT'S GOING TO CONTRIBUTE OR RUNOFF TO ECOLOGY ACTION AND THE REMAINDER OF THE COLORADO RIVER WATERSHED. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO ME, AS A PROPERTY OWNER ON THIS BLOCK, IT IS GOING TO BE CATASTROPHIC TO EQUITY FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SMALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY IS, I THINK ANOTHER COMMISSIONER SAID MAYBE MAYBE THREE HOURS AGO OR SOMETHING I'VE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME THAT WE'RE POISED TO BECOME THE 10TH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA. AND WE CAN'T JUST IGNORE PROPOSAL TO INCREASE DENSITY OF HOUSING, RIGHT? AND I AM 100% ON BOARD, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CORRECT PATH IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AND A QUICK DRIVE AROUND THE BLOCK WAS UTTERLY CONVINCED. UH, ALL 12 OF YOU HAVE, THIS IS THAT THE CORRECT PATH FORWARD IS SUBDIVISION AT THE SS THREE LEVEL WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS TO, UH, INCREASE DENSITY, ERECTING, THESE LARGE CONDOMINIUM COMPLEXES ON CONDOMINIUMS ON THIS STRETCH OF RIVER. UH, I'M AFRAID IT'S GOING TO SCAR THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER. IT'S GONNA PROHIBIT THE MULTI-ETHNIC, UH, AND MULTI-GENERATIONAL PEOPLE FROM HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE GREEN SPACE AND IT'S GOING TO DESTROY EQUITY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, UH, DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU WANT TO FINISH OUT? SURE. EXCUSE ME. UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO A FEW OF THOSE POINTS. UM, THE FIRST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO IS, UM, THAT THIS IS IF THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY USE, UM, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE BUILT FOR FAMILIES. LIKE I SAID, IN MY PRESENTATION, I'LL REPEAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO SMALL, TWO TO FOUR BEDROOM HOMES, UM, WITH A PLAYSCAPE AMENITY. SO, SO, UM, 100% WE ARE EXPECTING THIS TO BE SINGLE FAMILY AND FAMILY ORIENTED, UM, DEVELOPMENT. UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC POINT GOES, UM, WE WILL BE EXPECTED TO DO A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AT THE TIME WE DO OUR SITE PLAN. AND WHEN WE KNOW ACTUALLY HOW MANY UNITS WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE SITE, WE WILL BE DOING TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AS PART OF OUR STATE PLAN. WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE MITIGATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. UM, AT THAT POINT, UM, I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOES, I FEEL LIKE I, CAN'T NOT MENTION THAT ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO. AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX CREDIT APPLICATION WAS FILED ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. AND IT WAS ACTUALLY OPPOSED BY SOME OF THE SAME NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OPPOSING THIS CASE. UM, SO I WAS NOT MY CLIENT THAT DID THAT, BUT WE HAVE THAT RECORD. AND SO I THINK, UM, IT FEELS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT YOU WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN YOU HAD TO POST AN APPLICATION IN THE PAST. AND THEN, AND THEN THE FINAL AND POSSIBLY MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANT EVERYONE TO HEAR IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ARGUMENTS THAT WERE MADE. UM, I HAVE, I HAVE EXHIBITS IF YOU WANT IT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM, I'M HAPPY TO BRING THEM UP, OR I CAN JUST EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT, UM, IT IS TRUE THAT THE ECOLOGY ACTION SITE IS ON A CAPITA LANDFILL THAT WAS KEPT IN 1970. UM, AND IT IS TRUE THAT THERE IS A BUFFER AREA OF 200 FEET AROUND THE BOUNDARY OF THAT CAP LANDFILL. AND WHENEVER ANYONE REDEVELOPED IN THAT BUFFER AREA, UH, WHETHER IT'S A SITE PLAN OF SUBDIVISION, A BUILDING PERMIT, ANYTHING. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDFILL IS NOT UNDER THAT AREA. THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK THEIR BEST GUESTS TO CAP IT PROPERLY, BUT YOU HAVE TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING THERE. AND IF YOU FIND SOMETHING THERE AGAIN, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE DOING, YOU HAVE TO EITHER YOU HAVE TO REMEDIATE IT, OR YOU HAVE TO SIGN A CERTIFICATION THAT SAYS THAT THERE'S NOTHING THERE. THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS THAT ECOLOGY ACTION GOES THROUGH. AND THEY DEVELOP SITES BUILDINGS ON THEIR SITE THAT ARE IN THE SAME BUFFER AREA THAT WE'LL BE HAVING TO GO THROUGH. UM, AND I WOULD, AND I WOULD MAKE THE STRONG ARGUMENT THAT HAVING AN SF SIX DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES THROUGH A SITE PLANNING PROCESS HAS, IS GOING TO BE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCRUTINY AND IS GOING TO HAVE MUCH BETTER REVIEW FOR THINGS LIKE DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF AND ALL OF THOSE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE RAISED VERY LEGITIMATELY RAISED, BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT, THAT RE REVIEW WILL BE MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE THROUGH A SITE PLAN FOR US TO FIX DEVELOPMENT THAN IT WOULD BE UNDRESSED IF THERE WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND MS. MOJO, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOVED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER? HEMPEL ALL IN FAVOR. GO GREEN. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. UH, THAT IS 11 ZERO. UM, DO I HAVE QUESTIONS? MR. SHAY, GO AHEAD. SO I'M GETTING TIRED. SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF JUMP INTO THINGS. UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT UNDER SFP. WHAT'S A DENSITY ON SF THREE, LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE ONE SFP DENSITY WISE? SURE. SO, SO, UM, TO BE TOTALLY HONEST, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT [05:35:01] THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO. AND SO THAT, THAT HAS NOT, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR A CIVIL ENGINEER TO REALLY MAP OUT. UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT BY PUTTING YOU CAN LOOK AT THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE NORTH AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY DID, WHERE THEY FLAGGED. THEY FLAGGED A LOT OUT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEIR SITE IS A LITTLE SMALLER THAN OURS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE ABLE TO FIT SIX SINGLE FAMILY A LOT. UM, SO THEY WOULD, IN THEORY, THEY WOULD HAVE 12 UNITS AVAILABLE TO THAT SITE. NOW, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S NEARBY. THOSE I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD BE MUCH LARGER. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF SITE CONSTRAINTS THEY HAVE, UM, BUT IT WOULD, BUT USING SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION PROCESS FOR THIS SITE WOULD RESULT IN LARGER LOTS AND LARGER HOMES THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP. OKAY. I GUESS I'M WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE IS LIKE, UM, UM, , I MEAN, ARE YOU ACTUALLY PUSHING THE, UH, SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONAL DENSITY OR IS IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT BALANCE, WELL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT SINGLE FAMILIES OWNING EXCEPT THREE ZONING BY, RIGHT. UM, YOU COULD FIT 16. I BELIEVE LOTS IN THIS AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH RESULT WOULD RESULT IN, COULD RESULT IN 32 UNITS. SO IF YOU JUST TRY TO LOOK AT LIKE WHAT SINGLE FAMILY COMPARED TO SFX IN GENERAL WOULD, WOULD PRODUCE. UM, IT COULD BE QUITE A BIT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. UM, SORRY, I'M GOING TO KEEP RUNNING 26, 25, 26. SO THE SITE PLAN YOU PRESENTED, AND IF YOU COULD, SOMEBODY CAN PUT IT UP REALLY QUICK, UM, SIDE SEVENTH. YEAH, YEAH. SITES, IF YOU CAN PULL THAT UP, I WANT TO TAKE LIKE, SO DID YOU INCORPORATE COMPATIBILITY IN THAT SITE PLANT? SO THIS IS, THIS IS HIGHLY CONCEPTUAL AND IT PROBABLY DOES NOT. IT IS NOT TO SCALE. WE WILL BE SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY. UM, THIS IS JUST LIKE A LAYOUT, JUST LIKE I SAID, KIND OF A VISUAL. OKAY. CAUSE, CAUSE I THINK WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT WAS THAT I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA END UP WITH LESS UNITS IN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. CAUSE WITH A 25 FOOT BUFFER AROUND IT AS A SIX HAS COMPATIBILITY, YOU GOTTA PUT 25 FOOT AROUND IT. SO THAT MEANS ALL AROUND IT. YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE LESS UNITS THAN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHICH MIGHT BE BETTER. MAYBE IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTOOD THAT, UM, IT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP ALSO BECAUSE THERE IS A 25 FOOT BUFFER ALL AROUND. UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS, UM, IF YOU DID FLAG LOTS OR WHATNOT, I MEAN, HOW MANY DRIVEWAYS WOULD WE HAVE? I MEAN, WOULD IT BE MORE LIKE ONE PER EVERY TWO LAYS ON ANDREW THERE? YES, PLEASE. YEAH. TIME. UM, WE'RE EXPIRING, UH, FOUR MINUTES. UH, I GET A MOTION TO EXTEND TIME, REALISTICALLY. I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF HERE BY 1230, BUT UM, NOT BEFORE THEN MR. THOMPSON. YOU'RE STILL MUTED COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. WHAT'S YOUR TOP? 10 TO 1230, RIGHT? I HAVE A SECOND. LIKE I CAN MAKE SURE SHARES ARE ALL IN FAVOR ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, OPPOSED TWO, THREE, UH, NINE TO THREE. OKAY. UM, MR. SHAY, I THINK YOU NEED TO WRAP IT UP. OKAY. SO, UM, AS FAR AS FOR DRIVEWAYS, UH, IF YOU DIDN'T DO THE SF SIX, HOW MANY DRIVEWAYS DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD END UP VERSUS THE ONE THAT OTHERWISE YOU'RE JUST PROPOSING ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. I MEAN, WE ARE PROPOSING ONE AS THIS DESIGN WOULD LAY OUT. I WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON HOW THE FLAGS WERE TO CONFIGURE IT. IT WOULD CERTAINLY, BUT I'M SURE IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE. UM, I'M JUST, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF A SIMPLE QUESTION. I SHOULDN'T, I DON'T, I'M AFRAID TO VENTURE INTO THAT AREA. YEAH. I THINK, I THINK MORE I'M THINKING ABOUT IS TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE SINGLE DRIVE. I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BETTER REGULATE THE TRAFFIC AS IT COMES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT CAMP STREET VERSUS LIKE MANY DRIVEWAYS. BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. LIKE WHAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, AGAIN, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SITE, JUST TO THE NORTH OF US, JUST TO USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY APPEAR THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FIVE DRIVEWAYS, FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY. VERSUS SAY JUST A SINGLE DRIVE. OKAY. UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST DON'T HAVE A, UH, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL. GO AHEAD. SURE. THANKS. I WAS GOING TO ASK TO APPLICANT ABOUT THE, UM, THE PUBLIC ACCESS, THE AREA THAT WOULD HAVE THE PLAYGROUND, RIGHT. PLEASE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE PRESERVE THOSE [05:40:01] VIEWS. MMM. YES. HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD BE SOLIDIFIED? I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IT WOULD GO IN THE HOA DOCS. UM, I THINK IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO SIMILAR TO SOME CONVERSATION, UM, THAT WE HAD EARLIER IS WE WOULD KIND OF, WE WOULD FIND A PARTNER TO DO A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH US, UM, SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOCK IT IN AT ZONING WITH COUNCIL, UM, SO THAT IT WOULD BE IN PLACE BY THE TIME. CAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY COME LETTER LATER. I'M SORRY. UH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE APPROACH WE WOULD TAKE AS IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN. AND THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE SITE REPORT, LIKE OTHER THINGS YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, UM, WE WOULD FIND A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION WITH THAT INTEREST IN AND WORK TOWARD A PRIVATE COVENANT WITH THEM. AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE UNIT THAT WOULD BE 80% MFI. HAS THERE BEEN ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MAYBE THAT'S A 60% MFI UNIT? UM, 80%. AND JUST, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION IF THEY CAN BE A LITTLE MORE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. UM, I THINK, UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU. UM, I, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT 80 IS THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE STILL IN DESIGN. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIZE OF THE UNIT AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN KIND OF MAKE WORK OVERALL ON THE SITE. UM, SO IF THAT IS IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT. UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN COMMIT TO DOING A UNIT AT 80%. AND ACTUALLY I JUST GOT WORD THAT YES, WE COULD DO 60% MFI. WE COULD DO ONE UNIT AT 60%. THANK YOU. YEAH. OTHER COMMISSIONERS, THE QUESTIONS. UM, I HAVE A FEW BRIEF QUESTIONS, UH, SUPPOSE. UM, WHAT DOES THE APPROXIMATE, UH, STREET FURNITURE THIS LOT? IT'S ABOUT 200 FEET STILL. SO, YOU KNOW, FLAG LOTS, THERE'S SOME DISCRETION THERE AND SOMETIMES THEY GET DENIED FOR WEIRD REASONS BY ZAP. UM, BUT THE, WHERE YOU CAN BUY RIGHT GET IS, UM, ABOUT FOUR LOTS ON THIS, UH, UH, BY STATUTE. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? EXACTLY. THAT'S RIGHT. FOR A LOT WOULD BE, I THINK THERE'S A REAL DEEP. AND SO, AND HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS THIS LOT? UM, IT IS, WE TELL, YOU KNOW, IT IS 94,090 APPROXIMATELY. OKAY. SO LET'S SAY 12,000 SQUARE FEET PER LOT IS, ARE BIG, DEEP LOTS. IF THEY PUT DUPLEXES ON, ON EACH, UM, YOU COULD GET, UH, WHAT ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF EACH AND, AND, AND THE, THE FAR DOESN'T CHANGE BETWEEN SSX ASSETS OR IS THAT RIGHT? LIKE YOU CAN BUILD THOSE SAME AMOUNT OF BUILDINGS, RIGHT? SO YOU COULD PUT TWO, 500 SQUARE FOOT PER SIDE, UH, DUPLEXES, UH, SIDES. SO FOR, FOR, FOR EIGHT UNITS TOTAL, UM, AND I JUST LOOKED UP THE STREET, THERE'S A NEWLY CONSTRUCTED ONE ON A NARROW LOT BY LIKE WHAT THIS WOULD BE SUBDIVIDED TO IT'S ABOUT 2100 PER SIDE AND THEY'RE SELLING FOR 380,000 PER SIDE. UM, SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME, IF THIS HAS DENIED IS THAT THIS GETS SUBDIVIDED AND REDEVELOPED. AS WE HEARD, THERE ARE OTHER STREETS ON THE, ON, UH, HOUSES ON THE STREET DOING THIS. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY LARGE DUPLEXES SELLING FOR, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $400,000 PER SIDE. UM, BUT IN TERMS OF, UH, SITE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS, UM, YOU HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN AND GET YEAH. A SITE PLAN AND GET WATERSHED REVIEW FOR THIS UNDER SF SIX. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT? YOU GET AS A THREE UNDER, JUST AS A THREE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. NO, NOT IF YOU JUST DO THEM AS INDIVIDUAL HOMES, RIGHT. YOU WOULD DO THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN YOU WOULD JUST DO EACH ONE AS AN INDIVIDUAL HOME, SO, RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU DO WITH THE RENTAL BUFFER THOUGH. ARE ANY OTHER MISTERS WHICH SPEAK FOR QUESTIONS? UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION MR. ANDERSON? OH, SORRY, APPLE. YEAH. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOVE EMOTION TO SUPPORT [05:45:01] THE REASONING, THE SF SIX, UM, WITH, UH, THE COMMITMENT TO THE 60% AFFORDABLE UNIT. UM, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, LIKE THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND, UH, UM, TO THE, THE AREA, THE OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO THAT'S MY MOTION. UM, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THOSE THINGS BEFORE THEY GET TO COUNSELING. RIGHT. IF THEY'RE NOT GOING IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, WE CAN'T PUT THEM IN OUR OFFICIAL, UH, RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, OKAY. WE HEAR YOU. WE HEAR THAT. WE HEAR THE INTENTION. YEAH. OKAY. AND, UM, MS. CLARK, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? KATE CLARK? YES. AM GREAT. CAN, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE, THAT THE, UM, THE, THE DISCUSSION IN THE FILE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION DISCUSSES THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT AND THE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC PLAYGROUND? YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, SO I, I THINK YOUR MOTION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS IN THE DISCUSSION IS, IS JUST FOR STAFF OR FOR, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR SF SIX, MISTER HEMPEL, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN? UH, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THE, UM, THE BITS ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE UNIT AND THE PUBLIC ACCESS PLAYGROUND, CAN'T GO IN THE MOTION. UM, BUT WE HEARD THEY'RE GOING TO GET RECORDED. SO THE REMAINING BIT OF YOUR MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR SF SIX. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS NOT RECOMMENDED TO US AT SIX, SO I'M SAYING YEAH. TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REZONING TO SF SIX. OKAY. LOOK INTO REQUEST. MR. ANDERSON, YOU WERE SECONDING THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. UH, CHRIS TRAMPLE, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, WELL, I, I REALLY THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD MADE A LOT GOOD POINTS. UM, MY, MY HESITANCY IN, IN GOING WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT I'M LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALONG THAT STREET. AND ALONG A LOT OF THESE SIMILAR AREAS WHERE IT'S A SINGLE HOME THAT'S HUGE AND HALF A MILLION TO $800,000 OR MORE. UM, I THINK THAT GIVEN OUR LIMITED WAY THAT WE DO HOUSING IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, THAT HAVING MORE DENSE, DENSE, OR MORE UNITS ON A, UH, A LOT IS A ONE SOMEWHAT WEAK TOOL THAT WE HAVE TO, TO TRY TO GET THE AFFORDABILITY INTO THOSE AREAS TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. I THINK WE NEED TO EXPECT A WHOLE LOT BETTER. I WANNA REMIND ALL OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LAST YEAR IN MONTOPOLIS WAS $38,000. THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, AND, UM, THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE IS UNDER $200,000 STILL THAT'S UM, IN LARGE PART, ALONG WITH THE RICH HISTORY THAT SOME HAVE ALLUDED TO, UM, WHY THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, AFRICAN AMERICAN AND MEXICAN AMERICAN AND VERY DIVERSE, UH, NEIGHBORS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE US GIVE INCREASED ZONING ENTITLEMENTS WITHOUT DEEP AFFORDABILITY. ONE UNIT IS IN NO WAY. IT'S NOT, IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THE KIND OF GENTRIFYING IMPACT THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS. UM, I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY, I, YOU KNOW, I APPLAUD THE VISIBLE SUPPORT AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. I WANT TO SEE THINK EAST TYPE PROJECT IN MONTOPOLIS. I WANT TO SEE DEVELOPERS GO FOR DEEP AFFORDABILITY BY GETTING SUBSIDIES AND TEAMING UP WITH THE COMMUNITY, TO THESE PROJECTS AND MAKE THEM TRULY AFFORDABLE. BECAUSE IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MORE UNITS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, WHO'S IT FOR COMMISSIONER HEMPEL? WHO IS THIS FOR? THAT'S WHAT I WANT ALL OF US TO REALLY BE ASKING OURSELVES WHO BENEFITS AND HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT COMMUNITY LATER? YOU ALL HAVE HEARD IT FROM PEOPLE. YOU HEARD IT FROM PEOPLE, AND YOU'VE HEARD IT FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO COULDN'T STAY ON TILL MIDNIGHT, AND I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS. AND I URGE YOU ALL TO DO THE SAME FOR SURE. I UNDERSTAND. I'M SURE I DO RECOMMEND THAT. WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH EACH OTHER. UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS, NUMBER ONE, I LOOK AT THIS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS HERE, RIGHT? WE HAVE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TREES HERE, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THOSE TREES. AND SO IF, [05:50:01] IF IT WAS JUST ABOUT HOUSING AND SF THREE, JUST TRUMP, ALL OR OTHER REGULATIONS, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. MAYBE THIS WOULDN'T BE THE CASE THAT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET IN THE IDEAL WORLD, 16, REGULAR HOMES, 32 OR 16 DUPLEXES, WHICH WOULD BE 32 UNITS. UM, IF IT WAS CONFIGURED IN A CERTAIN WAY, BUT YEAH, IT'S NOT. AND SO WE JUST WANT REALLY BIG, LOTS LOOKING AT DOWNTOWN. WE KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE GOING TO COST. THERE'S A MILLION POUNDS ALL DAY LONG. AND BY ALLOWING MORE UNITS, DOES THAT BRING IT DOWN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT? I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS MILLION DOLLAR HOMES LIKE YOU WOULD IF THEY WERE JUST, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ON THE CLIFF RIGHT THERE. BUT, UH, THE PUBLIC ACCESS IS A BIG DEAL TOO. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO FULLY APPRECIATE THAT UNTIL IT'S THERE. AND RIGHT NOW THAT PUBLIC EDGE OR THE EU EDGE IS ALL PRIVATE. AND SO WE CAN WATCH ALL THAT DISAPPEAR AND THERE'S NO ACCESS. YOU LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, SUDDENLY THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW TO HAVE ACCESS. AND THAT'S IT. IT'S AN AMAZING, AMAZING MEETING OVER THERE. IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, THE PICTURE WAS NOT FROM THE PROPERTY. HEY GUYS WAS THAT. AND THEN, UH, IN FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT. I MEAN, SIR, I WISH WE HAD A BETTER ZONING CODE. YEAH. WE'VE ALL TRIED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET IT. AND WHEN THEY KNOCK ON WOOD, WE WILL, BUT UNTIL THEN TAKE A, WE CAN GET, AND THIS IS ONE UNIT THAT OTHERWISE WE'RE GETTING ZERO HERE. AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS. WELL, MAYBE ZERO IS BETTER THAN SOMETHING. GOSH, I WAS WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL FOR SURE. SHAW. YEAH. SO, UH, I'LL I KEEP SAYING THIS, BUT I LOOKED AT THE UT GENTRIFICATION STUDY. THIS IS THE MOST VULNERABLE AREA. AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ZONING CASES, UH, IN THIS AREA. AND I THINK IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE A COMMISSION THAT CONDO WISE IS EAST AUSTIN IN THIS AREA BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING DOWN THAT PATH. UH, SO REMEMBER WE, AND THE COUNCIL ALL AGREED THAT WE SHOULD NOT TOUCH THESE GENTRIFYING AREAS. WE ALL AGREED ON THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE CHANGING OUR POLICIES NOW. UM, IT'S JUST REALLY ODD. IT STRIKES ME AS STRANGE. SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE LAST TIME WE HAD LDC DISCUSSIONS AND NOW, BUT, UM, YEAH, I HOPE WE, AREN'T GOING TO CONDUIT THIS WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. MMM. I'LL TAKE THE LAST SLOT UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE IT. MMM. I'M SPEAKING FOR, AND, AND COMMISSIONER SHAW. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DID ON, UH, THE ANTI GENTRIFICATION MEASURES IN THE CODE. UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE. UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, I SUPPORTED THOSE STRONGLY AS WELL. UM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FORMULA UPS OWNING THAT WOULD APPLY TO SMALL PROPERTIES AS WELL. UM, A LOT OF THESE SF SIX CASES ARE BECAUSE THERE'S VERY LARGE PROPERTIES THAT DON'T SUBDIVIDE THAT WELL. UM, THERE'S ONE HOUSE ON HERE. UM, AND, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PARTICULARS OF THIS CASE, THE CHOICE HERE IS NOT BETWEEN KEEPING THIS HOUSE ON THE LOT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO DOZEN NEW UNITS WITH AN INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT. WE'VE SEEN, WE'VE HEARD TESTIMONY. AND THEN I'VE SEEN MYSELF THAT THERE IS CONSTRUCTION UP AND DOWN, UH, ALL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF LOGS, DUPLEXES, UM, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING. THEY CAN LEGALLY SUBDIVIDE. I THINK REALLY THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO HERE IS EIGHT DUPLEX UNITS OR 20 TO 24 CONDO UNITS WITH AN INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT. AND, UM, AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT AND GENTRIFICATION IN THIS TOWN DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THE REZONING. IT'S, IT'S A SCRAPE AND REPLACE OF A SMALLER HOME WITH A LARGER HOME. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT. AND, AND I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TALKING SMALLER PROPERTIES, YOU ARE CREATING AN INCENTIVE TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY, THE INCENTIVES ALREADY THERE IT'S A LARGE LOT. IT CAN BE SUBDIVIDED INTO FOUR OTHER LOTS. SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO CREATE AN INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT, TO CREATE MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE A PUBLIC AMENITY, UM, VERSUS WHAT WE SEE ACROSS THE STREET. AND TWO DOORS DOWN, WHICH IS TO $400,000 DUPLEX UNITS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE CHOICE THAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO I'M GOING TO BE VOTING IN SUPPORT. UM, WE HAVE THE LAST COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST HER NEUTRAL. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. UM, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR SF SIX, UM, WITH THE ATTENDANT NOTES IN THE [05:55:01] STAFF FILE AND THE DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, ALL OPPOSED, GO READ ONE, TWO, ALL ABSTAINING YELLOW. UM, SO THAT IS, UH, EIGHT TO ONE FOR 11, WHICH WE DID. SOMEBODY ELSE JUST POP UP? YEAH. COMMISSIONER PRESSURE ARE OKAY. UH, SO EIGHT, THREE, ONE, UM, WHICH MAKES 12. UM, SO THE CASE IS PASSED, UM, ONTO ITEM [Item B26] 26, WHICH I AM ACCUSED ON. UM, PARISHIONERS, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WERE ACCUSED? I'M SORRY. WERE YOU SAYING YOU WERE ACCUSED AS WELL? NOT RECUSED, BUT I HAVE TO STEP UP, SO I'M GONNA LET JAMES TAKE IT. GOTCHA. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, SHAY'S GOT THIS ONE. I'M 26 NURSE. THIS IS ROSEMARY ABILA WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UM, ITEM B 26. UM, IT IS SPC 2019 ZERO FOUR TWO NINE C VEGA MULTIFAMILY LOCATED AT 53 13 VEGA AVENUE. BESIDE IS 24 ACRES LOCATED IN THE EAST OAK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE WERE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS 330 UNITS. TOTAL MULTIFAMILY IS A LAND USE DEFINED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 TO THREE. THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE LOW INTENSITY ZONE OF SOUTHWEST PARKWAY. THE INTENSITY DON'T BOUNDARIES ARE DECLARED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 TO 1121. THE SITE IS ZONED, G R M U C O N P. MULTIFAMILY IS A PERMANENT USE. AND THIS CASE IS BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE IT REQUIRES LANDIS' COMMISSION APPROVAL BECAUSE IT ISN'T A HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY CORRIDOR. AND HOPEFULLY THE APPLICANT IS STILL ON THE LINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE? UH, IS IT MR. UH, MICHAEL OR, OR VOWS IN IT OR IS THERE A YES, MICHAEL ENGINEERS HERE AND I BELIEVE BRIAN BARRY FROM NRP IS STILL ON THE CALL TOO. OKAY. YEAH, BOTH OF YOU GUYS. SO, UM, UH, MR. VERA, AM I CORRECT? THEY HAVE SIX MINUTES EACH OR SIX AND THREE. SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT THEN, UH, MICHAEL, GO AHEAD. AND, UH, YOU CAN BEGIN SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, UH, FOR GETTING OUR APPLICATION, UH, LJ ENGINEERING IS THE ENGINEER FOR THE DEVELOPER, UM, AND RP, UH, OF THE VEGA MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. UM, MY NAME IS MICHAEL AND I AM THE SIGNING ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. UM, THIS PROJECT PROPOSES, UM, A 330 UNIT, UM, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, UH, CONSISTING OF FOUR BUILDINGS WITH ONSITE AMENITIES. UM, BEHAVIOR ACTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TAKEN FROM BEGA AVENUE AND PARKING WILL BE PROVIDED ONSITE, UH, VIA A PARKING STRUCTURE AND SURFACE PARKING. UM, THE, THE PROPOSED PARKING WILL EXCEED THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, ALL ZONING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE COMPLIED WITH, UM, THE SITE WILL ALSO INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO BOTH ROADWAY. FRONTAGE IS THEY AVENUE AND SOUTHWEST PARKWAY. UM, THE PROJECT AS PROPOSED IS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED, AND ALSO THE HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY REQUIREMENTS FOR SOUTHWEST PARKWAY. A QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT BROUGHT US TO THE KIT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA WAS WHAT DOES THIS PROJECT PROPOSE FOR THE COMMUNITY? THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS THAT ARE, UH, THAT WILL DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THEM IS A, UM, 12 FOOT WIDE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AS IDENTIFIED IN THE URBAN TRAILS, UH, URBAN MASTER CALS PROGRAM. THIS WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BOTH ALONG THE VEGA AVENUE FRONTAGE AND THE SOUTHWEST PARKWAY FROM FRONTAGE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING A 3.23 ACRE PUBLIC PARK WITHIN AN EASEMENT PARCEL THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FROM VEGA AVENUE. THIS PARK WOULD INCLUDE IT, VOLLEYBALL COURT, REST PLAY AREA, PAVILION, DOG PARK, AND THE NATURE CHILD THAT WOULD DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN AN AREA. SO THERE ARE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS PROCESS THEY THINK HAVE NOT BEEN UNDERSTOOD AND ARE DIRECTLY PERTINENT TO THE QUESTIONS AND THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE EARLIER THAT BROUGHT US OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH HILL COUNTRY ROAD WITH SETTINGS. WE ARE, WE ARE A MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY THAT WILL MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY [06:00:01] BY PROVIDING, PROVIDING AMENITIES THAT ARE DIRECTLY BENEFITING THEM. WE TRUST THIS INFORMATION WILL ALLOW YOU TO VOTE BEVERLY FOR THIS PROJECT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU, MICHAEL. UH, NEXT SPEAKER. WE HAVE MR. BRIAN BERRY. YEAH, THIS IS BRIAN BERRY WITH NRP GROUP. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. SO THANK YOU. I'LL, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF, UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, MAKE EVERYONE AWARE THAT, UM, OUR PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN HOUSING AUTHORITY. UM, AND, UH, THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT TO THE, UH, HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD MEETING IN JUNE 18TH, UH, WHICH IS A PUBLIC FEUD AND IT WAS APPROVED AT THAT MEETING. UM, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, UM, I'LL JUST, UH, DEAL WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND MICHAEL GAVE A GREAT, UM, DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE MIGHT HAVE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T THINK, AND MR. UH, MR. VERA, PLEASE CONFIRM I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. THERE'S NOBODY IN OPPOSITION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT SIGNED UP. SURE. THAT HAS CONFIRMED. THANK YOU. SORRY. IS THAT, AM I CORRECT? SO THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS THEN. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SNYDER FIRST AND, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER ZAHRA AS THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN THIRD REQUEST, PUBLIC HEARING SHOW YOUR ITEM. OKAY. AND WE ARE ANONYMOUS. OKAY. SO IT GOES INTO QUESTIONS. UH, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS HERE. I REMEMBER ONE OF, OKAY. COMMISSIONER SHAW, ALL YOUR HAND UP. YEAH. JUST, JUST FOR STAFF. UH, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET A, UM, LIKE AN AREA DRAWING WITH THE BACKUP? I'M JUST NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT SHOWS, I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT IT HAVING TO GO OVER HERE, BUT IS THAT REQUIRED AS PART OF THE BACKUP IS TO SHOW LIKE AN AREA MAP. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A STAFF MAP LOCATED IN THE BACKUP. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT. I'M NOT SEEING ON THIS. SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? UM, THERE IS ALSO A SITE PLAN SHEET AND A STAFF MAP SUBMITTED OKAY. I'M SEEING, YEAH. SEE HERE AT THE VERY END IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AT A VERY TIGHT SCALE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL LOOK AT IT ON A GOOGLE MIPS HERE. THANK YOU. YEAH, THE COMMISSIONERS, I THINK FOR ANY HANDS, YOU'RE JUST CLEAR. UM, I HAD PULLED THIS AT THE REQUEST OF A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO I DON'T THINK IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AT THIS POINT, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MR. SHAW, ANYTHING? NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF THERE'S NO. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE APPROVAL. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER? OKAY. AND ANYTHING SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION OR NOT A COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, THANK YOU, JERRY. I JUST WANT TO SAY I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MY GERBER WHO RECEIVED THE HOUSING, ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN DISPLAY, WHERE HE HAD SHARED THE GARDEN, THIS CASE AS ONE OF THE TRUCK OWNER, MR. REQUEST. UM, HE MENTIONED THAT THIS IS A HAWKER PARKING STRIP AND NRP AS WAS MENTIONED. UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN GOING A LITTLE BIT, THEY'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS OVER THIS BY THE SPEAKER IN REGARD TO YOUR TRANSPORTATION AND POINTED OFF THAT THERE ARE OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS THAT ARE FURTHER OUT THERE. THIS PROPERTY GRANDKIDS DIDN'T DO FOUNDATION CAN MAKE THESE PROJECTS. UM, AND THERE, THIS IS A BROADER ISSUE OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH CAPITAL DRAWN IT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE THINKING OF THIS. UM, I WAS ALSO TOLD THIS IS THE FIRST AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE SOUTHWEST PARKWAY AND WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABILITY, UM, WHERE THERE'S VIRTUALLY NONE GRANTEE. AND I DIDN'T HONESTLY, AND THIS IS MY OWN COMMENT TO, THIS WAS JUST TO SAY, THIS IS A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA IN WEST AUSTIN, WEST OF FULLBACK, WHICH IS NOT GOING TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE. SO THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. UM, AND THEN I WAS ALSO THRILLED THAT, UH, HOLDING UP THIS CASE, THIS CASE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON SINCE THEY'RE WORKING ON A DIFFICULT TIMELINES AND IT COULD GO FUNDING. UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I HAD HEARD FROM MY GRIPPER HAKA. GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER CZAR FOR THE BACKUP INFORMATION THAT WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS [06:05:01] COMMENTS? YEAH, I DON'T SEE ANY, SO WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TWO SUPPORT STAFF, EVERYBODY SHIP YOUR ITEM. WAIT, ARE WE OKAY? SORRY. I THOUGHT WE WERE STILL IN DISCUSSION MY BAD, ACTUALLY. I WANTED TO SPEAK, UH, NEUTRALLY ABOUT IT, BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S WHATEVER. OKAY. WELL, I SAW A GREEN ITEM FROM YOU. ARE YOU, ARE YOU NOT GREEN? I'M NOT GREEN ON THIS PLAN. I'M TIRED. I WANT FOLKS TO GRADES AND NOVIA JOSEPH'S EMAIL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING MY GERBER SAID IS NOT TRUE, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT SAID THERE, AND THAT IS STATED IN SOME OF THESE COMMUNITY CONCERNS, SHE STILL LISTENED TO BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WHO STILL LIVE IN AUSTIN, PLEASE. LIKE, DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE WE HAVE TO HAVE BETTER STANDARDS. THIS IS HAKA AND WE'VE GOT DOGS, SPAS AND ONE BED, MOSTLY ONE BEDROOMS AT 52,000. IT'S JUST, IT'S GOTTA BE, WE HAVE TO HAVE DEEPER STANDARDS. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS AND I'M NOT AGAINST THIS PROJECT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, NEUTRALLY. OKAY. UM, WELL THEN I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD BECAUSE THE VOTE IS A LITTLE ODD, RIGHT. AND SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE AGAIN. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, SHOW YOUR ITEM. SO ONE, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND ALL THE, UH, ABSTAINING, WHICH ONE ARE YOU ABSTAINING FROM? STAINING. OKAY. SO EIGHT ZERO ONE. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT I WANT. THAT BRINGS US BACK TO, UM, CHAIR, KENNY. ALL RIGHT, GUYS, I'M GOING TO RE ROCK THROUGH THIS REAL FAST. UM, FOR A QUARTER IS POSTPONED. MMM. TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN MORE DETAIL, SO I DON'T WANT TO DO IT TONIGHT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, THE, UH, WE [Item E] DO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON STREET IMPACT FEES. UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION. UH, IT'S KIND OF A COMPLEX TOPIC. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ZIPPING THROUGH A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN THREE MINUTES IS GOING TO HELP WITH ANYTHING. UM, HOWEVER ATD IS MOVING PRETTY FAST ON THIS. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON OUR JULY 14TH MEETING. CAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL JULY 30TH, AND THIS COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON KIND OF THE SCALE OF, UH, INCENTIVIZING AFFORDABLE PROJECTS AND TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECTS AS WELL AS DISINCENTIVIZING SPRAWL. SO, MMM. CAN I ASK, UH, RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CONTACT ME LATER. IS THERE A SUB CORUM GROUP WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN SOME, SOME GROUP CALLS ON, UH, WITH ATD AND MAYBE EVEN COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL OR RECOMMENDATION TO BRING TO THE FULL COMMISSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING REGARDING STREET IMPACT FEES, COMMISSIONERS ARE, I'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING TO ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW IT INCENTIVIZES THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR LIKE A YEAR. UM, CAN I GET A SHOW OF HANDS OF OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SOME GROUP CALLS OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? OKAY. I HAVE MISSIONARY GUYS, QUITO COMMISSIONER, SHAY. THAT'S FOUR OF US. WE COULD HAVE UP TO TWO MORE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARY IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, LET ME KNOW. UM, WE'LL BE GETTING A SUB CORE AND GROUP TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT THAT. MMM. DOES ANYBODY NEED TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS RIGHT NOW? UM, AND TIME, OR ARE WE BEGIN PULL OFF IN THREE MINUTES? I THINK WE CAN PULL OFF IN THREE MINUTES. UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A REPORT FROM A WORKING GROUP OR I'M SORRY, A COMMITTEE THAT, UH, CAN'T BE ADDRESSED NEXT TIME. OKAY. DID I MISS ANYTHING? ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS? SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, EVERYBODY. LET'S SEE. [06:10:19] . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.