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          [Call to Order]
          [00:00:05]
          ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          AND FIRST I WILL CALL ROLL. 
          ARE YOU READY? OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, GARY CRESCENT, COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR? BERRERA RAMIREZ PRESENT COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER BRAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER DAN CLUTTER. 
           COMMISSIONER DANGLER. 
           I CAN SEE YOU AND COMMISSIONER DECKLER I THINK. 
          AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, COMMISSIONER EVANS, COMMISSIONER KING. 
          AND I'M JOLENE KOBASA. 
          AND I'M HERE COMMISSIONER RAY HERE AND COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE AGENDA TONIGHT, 
          [Reading of the Agenda]
FIRST, A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 16TH AND THEN, UM, RIGHT. 
          AND, UM, I'VE GOT TO GET TO THE, THAT I DO THIS A LITTLE QUICKER AND THEN, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS BE ONE. 
          AND THAT IS ZONING CASE, UH, C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE THREE. 
          AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT B TO ZONING Z 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE EIGHT. 
          AND THAT IS A CON THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL B THREE C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE. 
          FOUR HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BEFORE REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE SEVEN. 
          UM, THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM B FIVE FINAL PLAT WITH VARIANTS, C A T C EIGHT DASH 2019 DASH ZERO ONE THREE 5.0 A AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          BE SIX SITE PLAN C S P C DASH 2019 DASH ZERO FOUR ONE THREE C. 
          AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL B SEVEN RE SUBDIVISION RE SUBDIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO THREE 8.0 A AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS. 
          AND, UM, I'LL GET BACK TO IT. 
          AND THEN B EIGHT RESUB DIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2019 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE 6.0 A AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. 
          AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EARTH, UM, AND ROOM AND FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR CONSENT FOR RE SUBDIVISION, OR DID WE HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER FOR THAT TO THEN SHOULDN'T WE READ INTO THE LE THE LANGUAGE THAT THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY NICHOLAS PARK RECOMMENDED? SURE. 
          COMMISSION LIAISON, ANDREW. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, DID YOU, UM, HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT OR, OR I WAS JUST GOING TO READ INTO THE END OF THE MOTION. 
          LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONCEIT, BUT I WANT TO READ IN SOME INFORMATION, WHAT I WANT TO READ INTO THE MOTION IS THAT THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, OTHER REQUESTS FOR ORDERS, THE CASE NUMBER CA 2020 ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE EIGHT DASH ZERO EIGHT. 
          FOLLOWING REASONS STAFF CONDITIONS, DISAPPROVAL WITH REASONS AS REFLECTED IN EXHIBIT C AS A STAFF REPORT ATTACHED TO THIS MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING. 
          IS THAT IT? YOU CHAIR? YES. 
          I, I WILL SECOND THAT, BUT ALSO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TO ASK IF THE IS ON THE LINE OR TO SPEAK ON ANY OF CONSENT ITEMS JUST IN CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          WHY DON'T OKAY. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY GOOD TIMING. 
          ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS WHO ARE SIGNED UP? ALTHOUGH I HAVE A LIST OF SPEAKERS, IS THERE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR B TWO WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, BUT WE PUT YOU ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND UM, SO I DON'T THINK 
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SO. 
          AND I BELIEVE B EIGHT. 
          UM, BUT WE PUT YOU ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY THAT'S SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THOUGH ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT DID PASS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? 
          [Consent Agenda]
OKAY. 
          HEARING THAT, AND THEN LET'S GO WITH THE VOTE FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS AND IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          [Item B1]
OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, OKAY. 
          NOW ON TO BE ONE, AND THIS IS FOR CON UH, WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BECAUSE THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REQUESTED IT FOR, UM, AUGUST 4TH AND THE APPLICANT IS OKAY WITH AN OR POSTPONEMENT, BUT TO JULY 21ST. 
          AND SO THEN WE WILL GO WITH THE PERSON I BELIEVE WITH THE REQUEST. 
          AND ACTUALLY, ANDREW, COULD YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT? UM, IT'S UNUSUAL TO HAVE THEM AGREEING ON A POSTPONEMENT, BUT JUST ON THE TIME  IT'S OKAY. 
          CHECK EMISSION LIGHTS ON ANDROID. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO THIS IS DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, NOT DELVING INTO A MIRROR, ALWAYS DISCUSSING THE POSTPONEMENT DATES. 
          WE'LL HEAR FROM TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM MEET SIDE AT TWO MINUTES EACH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, THEN WE WILL HEAR FROM FIRST FOR THE REQUEST IS JUSTIN SPILLMAN AND YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES AND THEN, UM, CARL URBAN IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TWO MINUTES. 
          HELLO? YES, THIS IS STEPHANIE AND I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME. 
          UM, AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ASKED FOR A MONTH, WHICH IS THE WEEKS BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THIS DEVELOPER WITH NEIGHBORING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING PARCELS FROM THIS DEVELOPER AND TRYING TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED BACK IN MARCH THAT GOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE IN PERSON MEETINGS. 
          AND THAT MEETING STILL HAS NOT YET TAKEN PLACE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING ON TRYING TO GET THAT RESCHEDULED AT THIS POINT. 
          AND IN REGARD TO THE REQUEST, EVERYTHING SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THESE DAYS THAN NORMAL WITH COVID SITUATION. 
          UM, ALSO, UM, SOME OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE SUFFERING SOME EXTRAORDINARY HEALTH CONDITIONS. 
          MY FATHER RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A QUADRUPLE BYPASS AND SO WE HAVE SOME DOCTOR APPOINTMENT FOLLOW UPS FOR THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          AND MY MOTHER HAS MEDICAL ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ATTENDING TO AS WELL WITH DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS. 
          AND MY, MY WIFE WAS PREGNANT AS WELL. 
          SO WHILE THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR US, IT'S STILL SOMETHING WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME SCHEDULING LOGISTICS WISE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH BECAUSE IT MAKES SURE THE CITY STAFF THAT HAS REVIEWED THIS KNOWS THE FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH PAST DEED RESTRICTIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FILED. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I JUST THINK A FOUR WEEK POSTPONEMENT IS REASONABLE IN LIGHT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND KARL URBAN, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK, AMANDA REMEMBERED IT. 
          STAR SIX. 
          CALL CARL URBAN. 
          ARE YOU THERE? HELLO. 
          HI. 
          IS THIS KARL URBAN? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY, BARELY. 
          IF YOU CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LOUDER. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          HELLO. 
          HELLO? HELLO. 
          HELLO. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, THAT'S MUCH BETTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'VE GOT THE PHONE RIGHT AT MY MOUTH NOW AND IT KEPT TELLING ME I WASN'T NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NAME IS KARL URBAN, MYSELF, THE SPELLMAN AND MY SISTER IN LAW HAVE ABOUT 2,500 ACRES DRAWING ALL THIS ACTIVITY, THE COLOR, BUT IT WAS KIND OF SETBACK. 
          AS JUSTIN SAID, REASONABLE MEETINGS WITH THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS TO TRY TO WORK OUT ALL THE ISSUES, THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY, ET CETERA. 
          AND WE THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA TO GIVE THE DEVELOPERS TIME, TO BAKE WITH US AND WORK OUT SOME OF THESE FUTURE ISSUES OR CURRENT AND FUTURE ISSUES. 
          SO, UH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF IT, 
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DELAY. 
          UH, MY SCHEDULE IS SOMEWHAT OPEN AND, UH, THAT'S JUST ABOUT IT WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE MERITS OF WHAT OUR ISSUES ARE. 
           OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND OKAY, NOW I'M SPEAKING AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE LACEY ELLERS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT?  YES. 
          HI, THIS IS LACY LACY. 
          HI FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          AND, UM, WELL, DO YOU WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST IT? UM, WE ARE AGREEABLE TO THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT OUR REQUEST IS NOT FOR IT TO BE POSTPONED FOR A MONTH  UM, FOR ONLY TWO WEEKS TO JULY 21ST. 
          AND OUR REASON IS THE APPLICANT HAS HAD, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PRIMARY QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH UTILITY AND TRANSPORTATION, WHICH IS NOT RELATED TO ZONING CANE. 
          THE ROADWAY HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BASED ON A TIA AND IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND UTILITY ACTUALLY INVOLVED WITH THIRD PARTY, UM, WHICH HAS NONE OF THE PARTIES ACTUALLY ON THE FALL FOR THE POSTPONEMENT. 
          AND SO WHILE WE'RE AGREEABLE TO IT, WE BELIEVE THAT OUR ROLE IS WILLING ON HATING AS BEST WE CAN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE THIRD PARTY. 
          AND THAT'S SEPARATE FROM ACTUALLY CONSIDERING THE ZONING CASE. 
          SO THEREFORE OUR REQUEST IS IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT?  OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          IS THERE A MOTION AND OH, LET ME SAY IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER BRAY HAS JOINED US COMMISSIONER BRAY. 
          CAN YOU, UM, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY, GREAT. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER BRAISE HERE. 
          SO, UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE POSTPONEMENT COMMISSIONER? UH, DUNCAN  AND MUTE  ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
           I MOVED THAT THE 14, 20, 20 BELOW FIVE, THREE . 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? GO AHEAD. 
          DID YOU NOT HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          THERE WAS A BLIP OVER YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I MOVED AT THREE 14, 20, 23 ROW 53 BE POSTPONE TILL AUGUST 4TH. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KING. 
          YES. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? NO LONGER MUTED. 
          YES. 
          UM, ONCE I'VE GOT, AS THIS IS SCHEDULED OR CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 30TH. 
          UM, SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE JULY 30TH CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULED? IF WE DO NOT HAVE IT BEFORE THAT POINT, DOES IT GO TO CAPITAL THAT EMOTION FROM US? NO. 
          THEN IT'S POSTPONED. 
          AND THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE IT GETS PUT IN FACT, A LOT OF TIMES, A FEW TIMES, UM, WE'VE EVEN HAD SOME RECENTLY WHERE IT JUST GETS PUT ON OUR SCHEDULE SORT OF AUTOMATICALLY, THEN IT WILL BE POSTPONED FOR, UM, THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          IS THERE, THIS IS MORE FOR STAFF. 
          IS THERE TIME IN THE AUGUST MEETINGS WITH EVERYTHING COMING UP, BUDGET WISE, WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO BE DOING? THIS IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE CITY, UH, CITY STAFF FOR THIS, UM, THIS CASE IS, UM, THERE, THERE ARE ZONING CASES THAT WILL BE HELD ON THE AUGUST 27TH MEETING AT CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO IT COULD GO TO THAT MEETING IF IT IS POSTPONED TO EARLY AUGUST. 
           OKAY. 
          WE WILL BE BASICALLY PUTTING IT BACK FROM JULY 30TH AND AUGUST 7TH, SORT OF MOVE AWAY TO PUSH IT BACK TWO WEEKS. 
          COMMISSIONER KING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS IS REASONABLE GIVEN THE COVID-19 ISSUES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND ONE 
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OF THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, HAS SOME FAMILY HEALTH ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO WORK THROUGH DURING THESE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST AND THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO I THINK THIS ADDITIONAL TIME WILL HELP MAKE THE END PRODUCT BETTER. 
          SO I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M ALSO GOING TO SUPPORT IT. 
          NOT NECESSARILY THE HEALTH REASONS, ALTHOUGH I'M A LITTLE INCLINED TO BE GENEROUS WITH COVID EVERYTHING SEEMS TO TAKE TWO TIMES AS LONG OR THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE MERITS OF A DEED RESTRICTION DISCUSSION. 
          UH, I THINK THIS IS WORTH THE TIME. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT FOR A MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? IF NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING IT TALK AUGUST 4TH. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          AUGUST 4TH. 
          IN FACT, I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, BUT I ASSUME THAT WAS, UM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE COMMISSIONER DENTLER, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, COMMISSIONER KING COMMISSIONER, GARY COMMISSIONER. 
          BERRERA RAMIREZ OR VICE-CHAIR BURRELL RAMIREZ, COMMISSIONER, RAY COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND COME AND ME AND FAVOR AND, UM, UH, POST I SEE COMMISSIONER EVANS AND COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION PASSES EIGHT TO TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, CON UM, 
          [Item B4 (Part 1 of 2)]
B FOUR AND THAT IS HEATHER CHAFING AS THE STAFF PERSON  OKAY. 
          HEATHER, ARE YOU THERE?   SURE. 
          COMMISSION RATES ON ANDREW AIR STAFF IS CALLING BACK IN. 
          THANK YOU. 
           STAFF REMINDER, SELECT STAR SIX TO STATE  TIMBERTECH SEVEN OUT OF ORDER. 
          AND COME BACK TO THIS. 
           SORRY. 
          I GOT CUT OFF BY AN AMBER ALERT OR SOMETHING ON MY PHONE. 
          CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA START OVER. 
          CAUSE I THINK I GOT CUT OFF AT THE VERY BEGINNING, A WHOLE CHAPTER ON PLANNING AND ZONING CASE. 
           CALLED ONE WAY OUT. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM G R E O T L R M U A 4.6 ACRE PROPERTY AT 5,601 LOOKS IN LINE, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NIXON LANE AND FM NINE 69. 
          THERE'S CURRENTLY 
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A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON THE SIDE FACING NIXON LANE. 
          MOST OF THE PROPERTIES IS DEVELOPED EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          AS I SAID, IT'S GRC LIMITS THE PROPERTY 2000 TRIPS PER DAY, VEHICULAR TRIPS PER DAY TO THE NORTH ACROSS NINE 69 IS A MIX OF LOCAL COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL LAND USES THERE'S CONVENIENCE STORE, A LARGE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL, A COUPLE SMALL SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES AND SF TWO, AS WELL AS THE LARGER A GAVI NEIGHBORHOOD, KIND OF TO THE NORTHWEST CROSS NIXON LANE TO THE EAST IS THE GAS STATION IS GOING TO LR AND THE LIQUOR STORES. 
          AND YES, ONE ALSO ACROSS NIXON LANE. 
          A LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES VAN SF TO IMMEDIATELY STOP AT THE PROPERTY IS LAND THEN SF TO ANSI S THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THE DOG KENNEL. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT TO THE LEFT. 
          UM, IMMEDIATELY WITH THE, THE PROPERTY IS LAND ZONED F TO M P PUBLIC CONTAINS AN OVERHEAD ELECTRIC UTILITY EASEMENT AND RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY. 
          MOST OF THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. 
          PLAIN ALSO HAVE, UM, SOME OF THE CITY CREEK BUFFERS AND SETBACKS. 
          SO THE PROPERTY IS, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED BY THOSE AND THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE LOT. 
          WE HAVE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST. 
          I UNDERSTAND THERE IS SOMEONE IN OPPOSITION THAT A CORRESPONDENCE CAME IN A BIT LATER. 
          WE SUPPORT L R N U. 
          IT IS A DOWN ZONING FROM GRC. 
          OH, IT WERE THIS WHOLE BY ADDING THEM, YOU WILL ALSO ALLOW THE POSSIBILITY OF COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, THIS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES, WHICH ARE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. 
          ALSO, THIS IS DESIGNATED IN IMAGINE AUSTIN AS AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOU. 
          AND THAT, THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMS UP MY PRESENTATION. 
           OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, YES, THE APPLICANT MOHAMMED. 
          RAMI, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO, MR. RAMI PARTICIPANTS REMINDER, SELECT STAR SIX TO SPEAK. 
           MR. RAMI, ARE YOU THERE?  MR. RAMI. 
           YES. 
          MA'AM I'M HERE. 
          HELLO. 
          AND ANYBODY HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, IT'S 4.7 ACRE OF LAND AS THE LADY SAID IN HER PRESENTATION, MOSTLY THE UNDER A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. 
          AND I'D BEEN TRYING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY SINCE 2004, BUT THAT HAD ALL KINDS OF SETBACK DUE TO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE LIFE. 
          AND, UH, SHE MENTIONED I HAVE GR ON IT, WHICH IS A GOOD ZONING, BUT I'M DONE GRADING DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT MATCHES THE SURROUNDING. 
          IT ALSO ALLOW ME TO GO HORIZONTAL RATHER THAN WHERE TO CALL. 
          I MIGHT WRITE OR GO WHERE TICKLE RATHER THAN HORIZONTAL. 
          IT GIVES ME A LITTLE LEVER OVER THERE, BUT ALL 
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IN ALL, IT'S A GOOD PIECE OF PROPERTY, AS I'M FORTUNATE THAT MOST OF IT IS IN THAT A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, AS SHE SAID IS RIGHT THERE BY THE NIXON LANE AND NINE 69. 
          AND THAT IS ALMOST ALMOST ONE, A ABOUT ONE MILE EAST OF ONE 83 ON NINE 69. 
          AND, UH, A SURROUNDING AREA AGAIN IS MOSTLY COMMERCIAL SLASH RESIDENTIAL THINGS IN THE NATURE. 
          BUT NINE 69 HAS BEEN READY, VERY BUSY SINCE IN 2014, IT HAS CHANGED AROUND HERE. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING IN EAST AUSTIN, WHICH INCLUDE THIS TRACK OF LAND OFF OF THIS NINE 69. 
          IT'S IN A WAY IT'S A SHAME THAT MOST OF IT CANNOT BE USED. 
          BUT AS I SAID, IT'S VERY, VERY NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY, NINE 69 GOING TOWARD EAST, WHICH IN A WAY IS ONE WAY TO AUSTIN AIRPORT. 
          LET'S SAY FOR ANY REASON, ONE 83 IS CLOSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, NINE 69 WOULD BE THE BEST TWO MILES DOWN THE ROAD THROUGH Y'ALL RIGHT THERE ON NINE 73, YOU TAKE A RIGHT TURN YOU ON 71, AIRPORT IS TWO, RIGHT? SO IT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. 
          AND I DO APPRECIATE IF YOU GUYS BE IN FAVOR OF ALLOWING ME TO GET TO THIS ZONING SO I COULD MOVE ON WITH THE PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I BELIEVE IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? SO I WILL GO TO ZENOBIA AND OH, BUT MR. RAMI, JUST STAY ON THE LINE, MAKE SURE. 
          CAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO REBUT. 
          UM, NOW WE GO ONTO, UH, BUT NOW WE'LL GO ON TO THE, UM, ZENOBIA JOSEPH WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND MS. JOSEPH, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO THERE'LL BE A, JUST LET US KNOW WHEN YOU'RE THERE. 
          SURE. 
          YES. 
          I RECEIVED A, I GOT COPIED ON AN EMAIL FROM MS. JOSEPH REGARDING, UH, SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE CALLING IN DARLING IN, I THINK SHE'S IN CONTACT WITH ANDREW. 
          MAYBE HE HAS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ISSUE THERE. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND YEAH, I JUST SAW SOMETHING OH SIX. 
          THE APPLICANT GETS SIX MINUTES. 
          WHOOPS. 
          UM, YES. 
          DO WE WANT TO SURE. 
          COMMISSION LIAISON AND I DID NOT HAVE MS. JOSEPH ON THE LINE. 
          I REACHED OUT TO HER, BUT, UM, HAVING NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECTION, I DO HAVE A EMAIL THAT SHE'S SENT, UM, TO MYSELF AND MS. COMMISSIONER KING. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. JOSEPH, WE COULD, WE CAN TABLE THIS, I BELIEVE UNTIL, OR WE COULD JUST, MAYBE JUST ONE OR TWO MORE MINUTES. 
          IT WOULD PROBABLY MORE BE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD TO JUST PATIENT AND THROUGH DEAD SPACE. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE MUSIC WOULD HELP. 
          YEAH, I'LL DRINK. 
          YES. 
          UH, I, I'M NOT SURE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ISSUE IS, BUT, UH, THE EMAIL I, I W I WAS COPIED ON WAS IN REGARD TO CALLING IN ON THIS ITEM. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S, IF SHE'S HAVING TROUBLE CALLING IN OR WHAT THE ISSUE IS. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE IT IS. 
          MAYBE UNDER CAN TELL US, IS THERE A NUMBER THAT FOLKS ARE GIVEN TO CALL IN OR, OR DO 
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MAYBE SHE NEEDS, DOESN'T HAVE THE NUMBER TO CALL IN ON, DO WE, DO WE PROVIDE A NUMBER FOR THEM TO CALL IN ON, ON ANDROID? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A PHONE NUMBER, BUT SHE'S OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, ANDREW. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE HAD THAT CALL IN NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT HAVING A SUB COMMITTEE WORKSHOP ON VIRTUAL CONFERENCING. 
          I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. 
          WELL, WE, WE WILL, WE, WE, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE RESOLUTION SO WE WILL NOT, AND THAT'S SAY, SAVE YOUR, SAVE YOUR FEELINGS FOR THEM. 
          AND WE WILL HOPEFULLY BE CONSTRUCTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T EVEN CHAT BECAUSE, WELL, THE ITEM, OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE WE HAVE SOMEBODY OR IT'S AN OB AND JOSEPH, ARE YOU THERE? ANDREW NOT RECEIVED AN EMAIL NORTH HAVE MS. JOSEPH IS NOT ON THE CONFERENCE LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I GOT AN EMAIL. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I, UH, I NEED THE CODE TO CALL. 
          I GOT AN EMAIL FROM HER JUST NOW. 
          UM, SO I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO, WHAT NUMBER TO GIVE HER. 
          SO, BUT SHE DID SAY I NEED THE CODE TO CALL AND THAT WAS IT. 
          WHY DON'T WE TABLE? IT SHOULD GO TO SEVEN. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW DOES THAT SOUND? OH YEAH. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NEXT THING. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          WE CONSENT SEVEN WAS SO HAPPINESS. 
          SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY JUST BE GOING TO ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION WOULD BE DISCUSSED AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          YEAH. 
          READY TO GO. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK, UH, WOULD WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE OR DO WE FEEL LIKE, CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T, I HONESTLY FEEL LIKE I'M JUST HELPLESS HERE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T KNOW THE CODE TO CALL OR I'M NOT HANDLING ANY OF THIS TECHNICAL STUFF. 
          THANK GOODNESS. 
          I SAW, I SAW IN AN EMAIL, THE PHONE NUMBER IS PRETTY IT'S IN HER EMAIL. 
          ANDREW JUST SENT US HIS RESPONSE TO HER AND IT'S GOT THE EMAIL PRETTY CLEARLY WRITTEN ON THE CODE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN JUST SAY IT OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S IN A FEMALE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HER NUMBER. 
          YEAH. 
          I, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS HER NUMBER, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY IT. 
          UM, SO I, I, UM, ANDREW AND TECHNICAL STAFF, ARE YOU, THEY'RE WORKING WITH ZENOBIA JOSEPH CAUSE MAYBE WE COULD JUST GO, WE COULD ADVANCE TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
          OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE CLOSE? SURE. 
          CONDITIONALLY RESCINDED ME, EMAILED TO HER. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I GUESS SO I'M PLANNING AND SUMMING UP. 
          BRI SENT IT TO HER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS THE POSSIBLE TO TEXT HER. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY TO BE REALLY ALL, I BELIEVE TO BE ALL ABOVE BOARD AND HAVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS ONLINE, CATHERINE. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S BETTER TO, ALTHOUGH WE DID EMAIL, BUT SOMEBODY COULD TRY. 
          I THINK IF SHE'S FOLLOWING THROUGH ON A FOLLOWING ON HER EMAILS ALSO, MAYBE SHE WILL GET THIS SOON AND MAYBE GIVE US ANOTHER MINUTE. 
          HELLO. 
          ANYBODY? I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT COULD WE HAVE SOMEONE CALL HER AND THEN HAVE THEIR PHONE CONNECTED, BUT JUST HAVE THEIR PHONE CALL ON YOUR PHONE IN THE HYDROPHONE NEXT TO YOUR COMPUTER SO WE CAN HEAR, OH, THAT'S AN IDEA. 
          UM, AND ANDREW, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE?  I'M NOT SURE BY PHONE NUMBER. 
          I WILL. 
          I'M SURE. 
          ANDREW WILL LOOK ALSO TAKE A MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          AND THEN WHY NOT? WE'VE SPENT A FEW MINUTES ON THIS ALREADY, ALTHOUGH WE ALSO DO HAVE THE APPLICANT WAITING 
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FOR HIS REBUTTAL. 
          SO I ALMOST DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT, UM, ANY UPDATE. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER KING. 
          I JUST SENT ANOTHER EMAIL. 
          SHE'S SAYING SHE NEEDS THE CODE. 
          SO MAYBE IT'S THE MEETING CODE THAT SHE NEEDS TO THE MEETING NUMBER CODE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          SHE'S ASKING FOR ADVICE. 
          SO WE'RE THE MEETING COLORS EACH. 
          UM, I, DON'T A WAY TO TEXT IT TO HER. 
           UM, AND I'M GONNA, WHY DON'T WE, I THINK AT THIS POINT, UM, I SEE THAT ANDREW HAS SENT, HAS SENT IT TO HER, THE PHONE NUMBER AND THE CONFERENCE ID NUMBER. 
          SO ONE MORE MINUTE, AND THEN WE WILL GO ON TO ONE IN A VERY TIMELY FASHION, OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION ON REGARDING VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          SO, BUT I WILL JUST GIVE IT ONE MORE MINUTE  AS I SAID, ESPECIALLY CAUSE WE HAVE MR. RAMI WAITING FOR HIS REBUTTAL AND WE ALSO HAVE HEATHER IN HERE. 
          WHAT EIGHT, READY TO GO? AND IT'D BE NICE TO GIVE THEM AN EARLY NIGHT AND ANNE, I SEE YOUR LIPS MOVING, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING. 
          MISSIONARY THINGS, CLAIRE, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, SO ARE YOU PROPOSING TO TABLE THE ITEMS AND THEN COME BACK TO IT? I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE VIRTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BUT THIS IS MAY, THIS HAS GONE ON A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG, SO I'LL GIVE IT LIKE ONE OR TWO MORE MINUTES BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE. 
          WE HAVE HEATHER ON OUR CITY STAFF ONLINE. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD. 
          IF WE CAN HAVE A QUICK RESOLUTION, IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE ON THE VERGE AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYTHING. 
          ANY OTHER EMAILS? ANY WORD FROM MS. MS. JOSEPH. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN CAN WE DISCUSS THIS ITEM AMONG OURSELVES AND DENNIS? SHE IN CAN BE LIKE, SO PUBLIC TESTIMONY OPEN AND START DISCUSSING IT OR WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR ALL A COUPLE OF TESTIMONY CHAIR. 
          I JUST GOT AN EMAIL SHE'S ON THE LINE WAITING. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          GO. 
          UM, I BELIEVE COREY IS OUR TECH PERSON AND ANDREW, CAN YOU HELP HER? CAN WE GET HER ONTO, INTO THE SHE'S ONLINE? SO SHE MUST BE ON THE VERGE OF CALLING IN  ANDREW AND MS. JOSEPH, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO TALK WITH HIM? I KNOW THIS IS, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          THIS WAS LIKE A KEYSTONE COP COMEDY. 
          I'M HOPING THAT DING IS SOMEBODY CALLING IN MS. JOSEPH, ARE YOU THERE OR ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE OR COREY? I'M GOING TO ASSUME. 
          COREY IS STILL OUR TECH PERSON. 
          DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE? SO CONDITIONED LACE ON ANDROID. 
          I JUST SENT YOU AN EMAIL AND MESSAGE INFORMING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE REGISTER NUMBER ONLINE AND ASKING S SHE HAS A SEPARATE NUMBER OR A WAY TO CONTACT HER. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN I WOULD SAY, GIVEN THIS, THAT WE DO MOVE ON TO C ONE, BECAUSE THIS IS DEFINITELY GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          THIS HAS TAKEN UP SOME TIME. 
          AND SO, UM, MR. RAMI AND HEATHER AND JOSEPH, WE'LL GET TO YOU AFTER WE 
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DISCUSS C1. 
          AND THAT IS DISCUSSING CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          HOW TIMELY SPONSORS, VICE-CHAIR BOROUGH RAMIREZ COMMISSIONERS THAT GARY DUNKIN KING AND BRAY FROM THEIR WORKING GROUP. 
          MR. KING DANCLER. 
          YES. 
          ARE YOU, UH, YOU'RE STILL OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I USE A MOUSE, NOT A LAPTOP. 
          UM, YOU HAVE TO TAMPER 
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WITH, UM, THERE HAS TO BE A MOTION TO TABLE A SECOND, AND THEN WE BRING IT BACK DOWN THE HEARINGS FOR BY COMMISSIONER DANGLER, UH, BY COMMISSIONER DUNKIN TO TABLE THIS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY, THEN AND NOW SEE WHAT? AND I'LL JUST PASS THIS ON TO VICE CHAIR. 
          BERERRA RAMIREZ. 
          OH, COMMISSIONER GILLREY I DID. 
          I WAS DOUBLE CHECKING THIS. 
          UM, MR. EBEN FOSTER VOTING ON THAT. 
          YES. 
          I DIDN'T SEE HIS HANDLER. 
          OH, COMMISSIONER DID NOT GO UP. 
          I HAD CLICKED SEVERAL TIMES TO SEE IF I COULD GET IN AND COMMENT ON THIS, BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU'VE GONE AHEAD WITHOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          I AM. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          SO LET'S YEAH. 
          LET'S UM, AND I, I, I DID, I DIDN'T SEE YOU IN THE TINY SCREEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WE COULD, WE DIDN'T, I DIDN'T TAKE A NOTE. 
          I DIDN'T TAKE A VOTE, SO IT'S NOT OFFICIAL YET. 
          SO COMMISSIONER EVANS, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. 
          WELL, YOU'VE ALREADY GONE AHEAD WITH THE MOTION, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          SO I'LL JUST CAST THE BOAT AS A THOUGHT APPROACH. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          AND WHY DON'T I ACTUALLY JUST SEE IF WE CAN WE HAVE THE NOTE? CAUSE I AGREE MY HEART IS WITH YOU ON THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT GOING ON. 
          UH, THAT'D BE IN THE CASE, THE THING IS, IS, IS THIS PARTICULAR PERSON WAS ABLE TO GET IN SUCCESSFULLY ON OUR LAST MEETING. 
          SO, UH, EXTRACT THE SAME KIND OF INSTRUCTIONS AT WORK. 
          LAST TIME SHE'D WORK THIS TIME. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THIS CASE, WHATEVER ACTION WE TAKE, IT CAN GO TO COUNCIL. 
          AND AT THAT TIME, IF THEY OPPOSITION IS STILL THERE AND SHE WISHES TO SPEAK, SHE COULD SPEAK TO COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE BEING FAIR WITH THE APPLICANT OR OUR TIME EITHER ON THIS. 
          YES, ANDREW, MRS. JOSEPH INFORMED ME THAT SHE IS CALLED IN ON A UNREGISTERED NUMBER. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE HER ON THE LINE NOW. 
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WELL, THAT ENDS THAT. 
          SO WE CAN GO BACK TO B FOUR AND THAT POINT TAKEN COMMISSIONER EVANS AND SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT FOR C1. 
          OKAY. 
          IS ENOVIA JOSEPH, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, MS. JOSEPH . 
          THANK YOU. 
          MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS. 
          I APOLOGIZE AND APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE COMES IN OVER HERE, JOSEPH. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS. 
          MY OPPOSITION IS NOT SO MUCH TO LR. 
          I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          I NOTICED THAT GR WOULD ALLOW FOR THE PAWN SHOPS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. 
          WHEREAS LR DOES NOT. 
          MY OPPOSITION IS REALLY TO THE NEIGHBORING, UM, AREAS ON FM NINE 69 AND ACTIVITY CORRIDOR. 
          IN PARTICULAR, IF YOU'LL LOOK FOR THE, UH, IN YOUR MAILBOX, I DID SEND YOU IMAGES OF THE CORRIDOR, AND I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S NO CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK FROM FM NINE 69 TO US ONE 83, ALL THE WAY TO DECKER LANE. 
          I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT AT FM NINE 69 AND ONE 83, JUNE 23RD, 2020, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY APPROVED TWO DIFFERENT AREAS FOR, UM, IT'S A WELDING LOCATION, RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF CEROS. 
          THE NAME OF THE COMPANY, IT'S A WELDING. 
          THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL OF LAND WOULD HAVE APPROXIMATELY 500 UNITS. 
          AND THERE'S JUST ONE INGRESS, ONE EGRESS THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 28,000 CARS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE VEHICLES PER DAY IN THE AREA THAT NEARS U S ONE 83. 
          THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY IN THE 1.2 MILES FROM THE PROPERTY WE'RE DISCUSSING. 
          NOW, WHEN IT WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT IN 2007, THAT SITE WAS ACTUALLY ZONED MIXED USE. 
          IT CHANGED TO INDUSTRIAL. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT WAS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JUNE 23RD, THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT INDUSTRIAL SITE. 
          AND SO PART OF MY OPPOSITION IS THAT I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME HAZARD MATERIAL ANALYSIS DONE ON THE CORRIDOR. 
          AND SO I JUST WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I'M OPPOSED TO IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALSO APPROVED A LIQUOR STORE FOR FM NINE 69 IN CRAIG WOOD AND ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, 
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THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE. 
          IT'S JUST ABOUT ONE MILE AWAY. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER MIXED USE IN THAT AREA IS SERVICE STATION. 
          SO I'M ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM ON SERVICE STATIONS OR SOME KIND OF CONDITIONAL OVERLAY BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THREE SERVICE STATIONS IN A QUARTER MILE DISTANCE FROM FM NINE 69. 
          THERE'S THE SHELL GAS STATION. 
          WHEN YOU GET TO CRAIG WOOD, THERE'S A TECHNICAL AND THEY'RE JUST OPENED UP A CHEVRON. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY WE'RE DISCUSSING THERE'S ANOTHER SERVICE STATION. 
          SO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT CAN NOT JUST BE LIQUOR STORES AND, UH, SERVICE STATIONS. 
          AND I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND CRAIG WOOD IS A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE OTHER REASON IT'S NOT AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR IS THAT IT'S NOT BIKEABLE AND IT'S NOT WALKABLE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE CAPITAL METRO HAS NO INTENTION OF ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE BUS SERVICE IN THAT AREA. 
          AND SO I WANT YOU TO GO BACK TO YOUR OCTOBER 16, 2018 MEETING WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PARTIALLY APPROVED THE ZONING CHANGE. 
          IT WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO WAS 80 YEARS OLD THAT WENT BEFORE YOU AND SHOWED YOU HIS PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME AREA THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. 
          SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO PARTIALLY APPROVE WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED. 
          AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE I HAD HERE. 
          UM, THE INDUSTRIAL THERE'S, UM, I ACTUALLY PUT IT IN YOUR, IN THE MEMORANDUM THAT I SENT YOU AND THE TRANSITION ADJACENT IN NEARBY ZONING DISTRICTS, LAND USES AND DEVELOPMENT INTENSITIES. 
          I INCLUDED A LETTER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THE, UM, THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PLANNING CONTACT TEAM INCLUDED THEIR INPUT AS WELL. 
          AND PART OF THE CONCERN WAS TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, AND THEY ALSO WANTED TO RESTRICT IT TO 80% AREA, MEDIAN, FAMILY INCOME, AND THAT WAS NOT DONE. 
          SO I JUST WOULD ASK YOU TO TAKE THESE THINGS IN CONSIDERATION, IN THE LOOK IN YOUR MAILBOX. 
          YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THE PICTURES. 
          AND I ALSO PUT THE INFORMATION ABOUT CAPITAL METRO FROM THE 2014 ANALYSIS DONE BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND I'VE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME AND SORRY, IT TOOK SO LONG TO GET THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. JOSEPH AND I, AND NOW THE APPLICANT, MR. RAMI, YOU WILL HAVE, UM, THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. 
          YES, YES WE CAN. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, CONCERN ABOUT THAT, WHATEVER THEY ARE MOVED OVER THERE BY AN ARROW WITH 500 WHATEVER UNITS SHE'S TALKING. 
          I GOT THAT INFORMATION AS WELL, BUT IT'S ABOUT MILE AND A HALF, ALMOST, ALMOST A MILE AWAY FROM MY PROPERTY. 
          AND AS FAR AS THE LIQUOR STORE SHOES, RIGHT, THERE IS ONE ALREADY RIGHT ACROSS FROM ME, AND THEN THEY ALREADY APPROVE ANOTHER ONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE APPROVED ONE WHERE THEY'RE BY CRAIG BOOTH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY OF AUSTIN OR CIVIC COUNCIL, THEY DECIDED AS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. 
          MY INTENTION IS NOT TO PUT A LIQUOR STORE. 
          I'M TRYING TO PUT A MIXED USE KIND OF LIKE OFFICE. 
          IS IT INSURANCE THINGS IN THE NATURE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I CHOSE TO GO THIS DIRECTION. 
          AS FAR AS MOTHERHOOD I HAVE ALREADY, WHICH, UH, IS IT GOOD ZONING? AND THE ONLY SETBACK WITH THAT IS IT'S HARD TO BUILD SOMETHING AT A GOOD SIZE DUE TO THAT UNDER YOU'RE NOT PLAYING FOR A LOT, A BIG PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, MY ZONING IS JUST FINE. 
          UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ENGINEERING DIFFICULTY OF IT, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO BUILD SOMETHING OF GOOD SIZE. 
          BY THE WAY, I ENDED UP, UH, IN 2004, WHEN I DID GO FOR A PEN, MISS DISCIPLE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT IN THAT SIDE, I ENDED UP GIVING CITY OF AUSTIN, A PORTION OF MY PROPERTY, BOTH A NINE 69 ON NIXON LANE, BECAUSE THEY NEEDED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND ALL THAT WAS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          I DID, UH, I DID A SIGN ON THE REGISTER AND RECORDED WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY, THAT THAT PART WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          THIS IS IN 2004 AND I HAVE TILL 2007 TO BUILD ON IT, BUT THERE WAS OTHER FEW THINGS IN MY LIFE PREVENTED ME OF BUILDING IT. 
          THEN I LOST THE SITE, BUT OTHERWISE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT'S WHAT I'M IN THERE. 
          WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING TODAY ABOUT ANY CHANGES, BUT, UH, THE ONLY REASON I'M GOING FOR 
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THE ZONING, BECAUSE IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO UP IN THE AIR A LITTLE BIT IN ORDER TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT REALLY, AND TRULY FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE DO NEED COMMERCIAL. 
          YOU DO NEED OFFICES, LIKE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, LIKE A, I DUNNO, DENTIST OFFICE. 
          LIKE I TOLD HIM HIS OFFICE, ALONG WITH SOME PEOPLE RESIDING THERE, I WILL RESIDE IN WHAT I BE ABLE TO FILL SOMETHING THERE. 
          I OCCUPIED A PORTION OF IT AND LIVE THERE BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, VERY CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT IS VERY CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. 
          IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO DECKER LAKE, WHICH IS A NICE LAKE POTENTIAL, BUT I LIKE FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RAMI. 
          AND NOW WE CAN CLOSE. 
          WE CAN VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND EVEN HAVE A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER DANGLER, SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN AND OKAY. 
          MOTION, DISCUSSION, WHATNOT. 
          AND THE QUESTION OF STAFF, JUST A QUICK ONE. 
          UM, MS. SHAPEN, WHAT DOES THAT, AND YOU, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? WHAT SHOULD THEY DO? WHERE DO WE TAKE A VOTE? I'M SORRY, TAKE A VOTE. 
          NO,  SO I NEED TO VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          YOU'RE MUTED. 
          YEP. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          IT'S YOUR NANA. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, UM, STAFF QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          UM, PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          THE QUESTION ABOUT ADDING THE MEU. 
          THIS IS GENERALLY A DOWN ZONING FROM GRC O T L R N U M U ALLOWS THE POSSIBILITY OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          IT STILL ALLOWS COMMERCIAL, NOT AS INTENSE COMMERCIAL AS IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED. 
          IT ALLOWS COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO. 
          I GUESS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHEN APARTMENTS BE DOABLE THERE OR NOT? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I KNOW ELLA DOES NOT ALLOW A LIQUOR STORE. 
          UH, DOES IT ALLOW A DRIVE FOR, OKAY. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK ON DRIVE THROUGH. 
          I BELIEVE IT DOES. 
          UM, AND GR DOES THE EXISTING ZONING REGARDING LRM YOU? I BELIEVE IT ALLOWS UP TO MS. LEVEL'S ZONING, BUT THEN AGAIN, THIS SITE IS VERY AFFECTED BY THE FLOOD POINT. 
          I PRESS MR. SMITH'S NOD THERE. 
          SO COMMISSIONER GARY. 
          SO QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          UM, WELL THIS LAPAR GUEST STATION, I BELIEVE IT MIGHT, BUT I'M DOUBLE CHECKING. 
          IT DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUSE THAT WOULD BE NOT POSITION TO A GAS STATION. 
          OKAY. 
          HEATHER, YOU HAD AN ANSWER. 
          I WAS JUST CONFIRMING. 
          YES, IT DOES ALLOW FOR AND GAS STATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMISSIONER KINGS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I HEARD THE APPLICANT MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES. 
          UH, IT SEEMED LIKE, UH, THE, I BELIEVE HE WAS TRYING TO INDICATE THAT THE EMMY WOULD GIVE HIM MORE HEIGHT. 
          MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT HE SAID, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THIS ZONING CHANGE MEANS COMPARED TO WHAT'S ON THE GROUND. 
          NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A REDUCTION IN HEIGHT. 
          YOU GO FROM GR TO LR AND IT'S A DECREASE IN THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT AS WELL. 
          SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO IS THAT MOU DOES NOT GRANT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND SINKING STAFF CLARIFY OR CONFIRM THAT PLEASE. 
          SURE. 
          L R ALLOWS 40 FEET. 
          THERE WERE THREE STORIES, JEEPER, LAOS, 60 FEET. 
          IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THE STORY. 
          SO IMPERVIOUS COVER IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          I NEED TO LOOK AT MY WATERSHED IMPERVIOUS COVER IMPERVIOUS COVER PER ZONING IS REDUCED FROM 80, 90% TO 80%. 
          THE WATERSHED DOES AFFECT IT. 
          AND I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THOSE NUMBERS AND 
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MISSHAPEN THAT, THAT WATERSHED, THAT, THAT WOULD, WOULD THAT LIKELY REDUCE IT FURTHER FROM 80  I'M ALMOST THERE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I, YOU KNOW, UH, I'LL, I'LL HELP, UM, COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, IT DEPENDS ON THE SITE AREA, THE BOTH SIDE AREAS OF TRANSFERS, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT IT VERY MUCH. 
          NO, IT DOESN'T AFFECT IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT GOES DOWN 10% UNDER THE PROPOSAL AND THE HEIGHT, THE MEU DESIGNATION DOES NOT GRANT ANY ADDITIONAL HIGH BEYOND THE LR ZONING. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. 
          I'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THAT TOO. 
          IF THE APPLICANT IS EXPECTING TO GET ADDITIONAL HEIGHT THAN THEN GET IT, THEN THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT MY BEST. 
          I DON'T, I KNOW THAT'S HIS ISSUE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE TONIGHT. 
          I THINK HE, THAT, I THINK HE DOESN'T DUNCAN, UH, TRIED TO GET MY BAGS ON THIS SITE. 
          I'M AT BEARINGS IS ALMOST ADJACENT TO THE FUTURE GREEN LINE OF METRO. 
          IS THAT NOT CORRECT? IT ALMOST THE BUDGET TO ME. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I BELIEVE IT IS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, UH, WITH THE, UH, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A VERY GOOD LOCATION FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND IF YOU, I THINK IT'S THE ONLY TOOL TO GET THAT. 
          AM I NOT RIGHT OR WRONG? THANK YOU TO GET RESIDENTIAL, HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING TO GET RESIDENTIAL ON THIS SITE. 
          AND YOU REQUIRED. 
          THANK YOU, HEATHER AND COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          HI. 
          I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ASSET WAS. 
          I SUPPORT WHAT THE APP WANTS WHEN THEY SAY THAT THIS SITE IS SEVERELY IMPACTED BY THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          IT IS CLEARLY IMPACTED BY THE FLOOD PLAIN THERE'S MAYBE A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF THE LOCAL AREA. 
          IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT WE APPROVED VIRTUALLY. 
          NOTHING CAN BE BUILT OFF THIS THING OUTSIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YES. 
          AND, UM, EMOTION OR ANYTHING. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR THE EMR. OKAY. 
          AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DUNKIN. 
          HE HAD HIS HAND UP. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER AND A TUNER. 
          DANCLER I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT. 
          WOULD HE BE AMENABLE TO PROHIBITING A SERVICE STATION ON THE SIDE, MR. RAMI, ARE YOU STILL THERE? NO. 
          WHAT WAS THE QUESTION PLEASE? UH, WOULD YOU BE ELMA ALLOWS YOU TO BUILD A SERVICE STATION AND WE HEARD FROM MS. ZENOBIA THAT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW WITHIN MILE. 
          THIS IS NOT A DO OR DIE ISSUE FOR ME, BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT THAT NEAR A FLOOD, PLAIN. 
          WOULD YOU BE OKAY IF WE REMOVED THAT ABILITY TO BUILD A SERVICE STATION FROM, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION? OKAY. 
          IF YOU, WHAT YOU MEAN BY SERVICES STATION LIKE GAS STATION WITH THE PUMP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          I HAVE NO PROBLEM. 
          YOU ALL PUT THAT IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM REMOVING IT. 
          THIS, YOU HAD TO DO A RESTRICTED COMPASS TO DO THAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT HER, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO IT AS A CEO. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER THING I JUST, THE AMPLIFY WAS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON ONE SIDE ANYWAY, CAUSE THE ONE, OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SMITH FOR COMMENT EARLIER, I'M LOOKING AT THE AREA AND IF, IF I'VE GOT THE RIGHT SITE, A BUDDY HAS BUDDY HAS CHEVRON STATION ON ONE SIDE AT A SERVICE STATION ACROSS THE STREET. 
          AND THE ONLY PART OF THIS SITE, I THINK YOU INDICATED IT MIGHT EVEN BE DEVELOPED FOR THE CORNER NEXT TO THE SERVICE STATION. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY'LL NEED TO PUT LIMITATIONS ON IT IF THE MARKET CALLS FOR IT. 
          SO BE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMISSIONER, UM, WHO'S NEXT TO SPEAK? UM, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER GARY AND MYSELF AND OTHERS TO PUT ON MUTE WHILE YOU, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, IT HELPS 
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PREVENT SORT OF AN ECHO CHAMBER, EVERYTHING AND I'LL HIT MUTE AND COMMISSIONER, I JUST WOULD, I'M REALLY SUPPORTING AND WOULD APPRECIATE THE REMOVAL OF THE SERVICE STATION OR A GAS STATION, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE FLOOD, PLAIN. 
          UM, AND ALSO BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING, SO THIS WOULD ADD SOME MORE DIVERSITY. 
          IF WE DID SOMETHING OTHER THAN A GAS STATION, COMMISSIONER EVANS, I THINK MR. SMITH HAS MADE IT FAIRLY CLEAR AND EVEN COMMISSIONER DUNKIN IS, HAS UNDERSTOOD THIS TO GO AND START PLAYING WITH THE ZONING. 
          WE'VE GOT A BASIC ZONING CASE OF WE'RE LOOKING AT LRM YOU TO TRY AND RESTRICT THINGS JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FEELING OF OBJECTION TO THEM. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE GOT INTO THIS QUAGMIRE, WE IN ALL OVER THE CITY AND WE'VE GOT REGULATIONS. 
          IF A SERVICE STATION WOULD IMPACT THE, TO THE CREEK BOTTOM, THEN THE CITY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. 
          THERE'S WAYS TO GET THAT DONE IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          SO LET'S, I MEAN, I CAN'T SUPPORT RESTRICTING THIS SITE ANY FURTHER. 
          IT'S ALREADY GOT ENOUGH ISSUES TO TRY TO DEAL WITH IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY OF ANY DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KING. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, I, I THINK WE WERE DEALING WITH SYMPTOMS, SYMPTOMS OF A LACK OF SMALL AREA PLANNING IN THIS AREA HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CRAIG WOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO THIS AREA HERE REALLY WASN'T INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE PLANNING YEAR, ALTHOUGH THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT HIM. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE THAT, THAT TH TH THAT'D BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE SMALL AREA PLANS, SO THAT THE AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IN THIS AREA CAN WORK TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHERE THEY WANT THIS KIND OF SERVICE OR THAT KIND OF SERVICE AND, AND WORK THIS OUT TOGETHER. 
          THEN WE, THEN EACH CASE BECOMES A ONE OFF. 
          IT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PRECEDENT AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO PLAN TO REFER BACK TO. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS REASONABLE TO SAY THAT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF THE STATION. 
          AND IT IS REASONABLE FOR US TO DO, TO PUT THIS LIMIT ON THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SMALL AREA PLANNING. 
          AND I THINK WE DO NEED THAT. 
          IF WE HAD SMALL AREA PLANNING, WE WOULD HAVE FEWER OF THESE ISSUES TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH WITH CEO'S. 
          AND THE FACT THAT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT MOU IS GOOD FOR THIS SIDE AND WE NEED RESIDENTIAL. 
          THERE'S ALREADY RESIDENTIAL ON HERE. 
          SO I'M NOT AGAINST THE AMU, BUT WHERE'S THE AFFORDABILITY. 
          WE TALK ABOUT M U AND GRANTING THESE, THESE ZONING CATEGORIES, BUT THERE'S NO COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT ARE COMMENSURATE. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT THIS APPLICANT IS COMING THROUGH AND REALLY SUPPORTING A DOWN ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S TRYING TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY THERE, BUT I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE A SMALL AREA PLANNING TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER EVANS, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP ADJACENT TO THAT AREA THAT SUPPORTED THIS ZONING. 
          UH, WE HAD NOBODY ELSE IN OPPOSITION, BUT WE WERE PRESENTED OPPOSITION WISE WAS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF WHAT'S GOING ON UP AND DOWN NINE 69. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING FOR A PARTICULAR TRACK. 
          IT, A STAFF HAS LOOKED AT IT. 
          IT FITS IN WELL WITH WHAT, WHAT IS SURROUNDING THAT TOO. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING ABOUT SMALL AREA PLANNING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          WE CAN'T STOP THE WORLD UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS. 
          SO AGAIN, WE NEED, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND NOT GET INTO ALL THE, WHAT, WHAT IFS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER BRAY. 
           IT JUST FEELS TO ME LIKE IT'S AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF MICROMANAGEMENT TO SAY THAT THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH GAS STATIONS THAT WE DON'T MEAN MORE. 
          LIKE, I THINK AS COMMISSIONER DUNKIN SAID, LIKE, LET THE MARKET DECIDE WITH THAT. 
          AND WHAT ARE GROUNDWATER REGULATIONS, IF THERE'S, I WOULD HOPE AND TRUST THAT IF THE GAS STATION WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO WATER QUALITY ISSUES THAT THAT WOULD BE DEALT WITH IN OUR WALLET, QUALITY REGULATIONS IN ANYTHING ON THAT FRONT, IF THE GAS STATION WOULDN'T BE A PRINTER, IT WOULD BE PRECLUDED BY THAT ASPECT OF IT. 
          IT JUST FEELS LIKE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF MICRO MANAGEMENT TO PROHIBIT THIS ONE USE. 
          AND I DON'T REALLY SEE A STRONG REASON TO, UM, SO I, I WON'T SUPPORT IT EITHER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE ON THE TABLE, THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          OH, COMMISSIONER. 
          DANCLER YOU WISH TO SPEAK? I'D LIKE TO MOVE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH A CEO TO PROHIBIT SERVICE STATION 
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JIM, BY COMMISSIONER DANGLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING? UH, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW IF COMMISSIONER, UH, GAIL, YOU WANTED TO SECOND THAT, OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SECOND. 
          LIKE, NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO DO, WERE YOU SECONDING THAT COMMISSIONER GARY WON'T HAVE YOU, SO COMMISSIONER DANGLER, COMMISSIONER KING SECONDED IT FOR A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CEO TO PROHIBIT GAS STATIONS AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, OR IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER GARY, I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A PERSON THAT LIVES, UM, OR HAS DEALT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, FLOODING ISSUES, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ALARMING IS WHENEVER YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS, ESPECIALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S CAUSTIC THAT INTEREST INTO A, UH, LED SCREEN OR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY ON THERE, THAT IT IS CLEARLY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T HURT IN THAT BELIEF. 
          THE APPLICANT EARLIER SAID THAT HE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE CARE ABOUT THE, WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT IF HE'S ALREADY SAYING YES, I CARE TO QUESTION, WHY ARE WE SAYING NO? UM, AND SOMETIMES, UM, BEING IN EAST AUSTIN, SOME OF US ARE TIRED OF A LOT OF GAS STATIONS BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR AREA. 
          UH, I THINK WE WOULD, UH, WE DESERVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UM, A VARIETY OF SERVICES OTHER THAN JUST GAS STATIONS. 
          SO I'M JUST ALSO SES AND ON THE BEHALF, AS FAR AS EQUITY, UM, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED IN EAST BOSTON MO MORE DIVERSE OPTIONS. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS SORELY NEEDED, UH, WHICH I THINK THE APPLICANT IS VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. 
          I DON'T SEE THIS AS MICROMANAGING. 
          MAYBE, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING A, AN ITEM THAT, OR THAT TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY VERY HELPFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY IS, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING WRONG WITH US MAKING OR ME MAKING THAT KIND OF RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND I GUESS, LIKE WE KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD KIND OF EXPAND ON A LITTLE BIT WITH MY THINKING IS WITH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, ON, UH, RIGHT NOW, I WOULDN'T IDEALLY IN MY WORLD, WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANOTHER GAS STATION THERE. 
          I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH ZONING, SAY MOST OF THE OTHER GAS STATIONS SKETCH WE'VE DEVELOPED. 
          AND THEN IN 30 YEARS, NO, MAYBE THERE IS A NEED FOR A GAS STATION TO TEST SPOT. 
          AND, UM, WE'VE PUT IN A, JUST LIKE I SEE IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CLEAN CODING ISSUE WITH US IN THE SENSE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ENOUGH GAS STATIONS THERE, I, RIGHT NOW, IF THEY'RE MY GUESS IS THAT THE MARKET RIGHT NOW PROBABLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT A GAS STATION, BUT, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST FEELS, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, I ALSO KNOW, I, I AGREE THAT PROBABLY WATER REGULATIONS, IT'S NOT GREAT TO HAVE, I GUESS IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A GAS STATION HERE, BUT I, MY ASSUMPTION IS ALSO THAT THE WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS WITH, AS A PROBLEM WOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE. 
          AND I JUST DON'T LIKE THE, I THINK WE ARE CODES ALREADY REALLY COMPLICATED, AND THAT'S WHY I DON'T LIKE TO ADD MINOR ITEMS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, IF I SAID SOMEBODY DIED HERE CAUSE I DON'T SEE A GAS STATION LIKELY TO BE THERE RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE KIND OF PRECLUDING SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY NOT LIKELY TO BE BUILT THERE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY IT SEEMS LIKE EXCESSIVE TO ME, IF IT WAS LIKE A QUESTION OF, WE ACTUALLY THINK THERE'S LIKELY TO BE A GAS STATION, I WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO PUT THAT CONDITION. 
          BUT WHEN WILDLY ARE YOU LIKING IT TO SEE IT, IT'S JUST SEEMS EXCESSIVE AND SOMETHING IS WE NEED TO WORK ON SIMPLIFYING OUR CODE. 
          OKAY. 
          I AM COMMISSIONER DENTLER. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, YOU UNDERSTAND THESE ARGUMENTS? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I, WE WERE INVOLVED WITH CODE NEXT AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE POSSIBLE COMBINATIONS AND IT WAS THE MOST OROTIC THING THAT CAME OUT OF CODE NEXT FOR ME, WHEN THEY DESCRIBED THE CURRENT CODE, ALLOW 600 POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS AND THEN HAVE A NEW CODE THAT ALLOWED A THOUSAND MORE POSSIBLE COMBINATIONS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS GETTING MORE COMPLEX. 
          THIS IS NOT A PLANNED AREA. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN. 
          WE DON'T HAVE, UM, REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITIES ON TOP OF THAT. 
          ONE USE IS NOT REAL HARD. 
           YOU MOVED IT IN. 
          WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          AND YEAH, YOU MUTED. 
          I PROBABLY DID WHAT THE ELBOW. 
          UM, I LIVE IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE THREE GAS STATIONS, UH, WITHIN, 
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YOU KNOW, WALKING DISTANCE OF IT AT TWO ON A CORNER. 
          AND THEN ONE, LITERALLY ONE BUILDING UP. 
          AND WHAT I FOUND IS IF YOU DEVELOP AS A GAS STATION, MR. BRAY, YOU REALLY DON'T DO ANYTHING, BUT THAT USE IT'S REAL EXPENSIVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITH TANKS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, SO I DON'T SEE THOSE TWO GAS STATIONS GOING AWAY, UH, IN 30 YEARS. 
          I'D JUST RATHER ALUMINATE THE USE AND THE APPLICANT'S FINE WITH IT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL. 
          SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT MY MOTION. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT, WE'LL JUST HAVE A VOTE. 
          AND THAT WAS A MOTION, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. 
          DINKLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING, UM, TO, FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CEO TO PROHIBIT GAS STATIONS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE COMMISSIONER KING COMMISSIONER DANCLER COMMISSIONER, GARY COMMISSIONER. 
          BERRERA RAMIREZ AND COMMISSIONER, ME AND COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          SO THAT IS, UM, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX. 
          AND THOSE OPPOSED COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER BRAY AND COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          AND SO MOTION PASSES SIX TO FOUR AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING. 
          AND, UM, AND I GUESS THAT IS THE MOTION THAT PASSED OR A PARLIAMENTARIAN DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PASS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S IT. 
          AND YOU WOULD THINK I HAVE PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE RIGHT BEHIND ME. 
          SO 
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THEN WE'LL GO ON TO SEE ONE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL REGARDING VIRTUAL MEETINGS SPONSORS, VICE CHAIR, BURRELL, RAMIREZ, COMMISSIONERS, UH, GARY DUNKIN, KING AND BRAY. 
          AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY FOR WORKING ON THIS AND IT IS IN THE BACKUP SO WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          CAUSE I WAS WORRIED THAT IT WASN'T IN THE BACKUP. 
          SO I'M JUST GOING TO VISIT EVERYBODY, HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO LOOK AT, SHOULD I READ IT OR GO OVER IT OR IS THERE A WAY TO PUT IT ON THE SCREEN? IS THAT CRAZY, ANDREW, IF YOU COULD DO IT, YES. 
          OH, GOOD. 
          AWESOME. 
          AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? SHOULD I JUST READ IT OR I GUESS, YES, GO AHEAD. 
          WE NORMALLY JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS OUR DRAFT RESOLUTION ON VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          WHEREAS SINCE MARCH, 2020, THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN UNABLE TO MEET IN PERSON DUE TO THE STAY AT HOME WORK ORDER RESULTING FROM THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. 
          IT IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME, HOW LONG THESE CONDITIONS WILL LAST, WHEREAS SITE DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING CASES CONTINUE TO BE PROCESSED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          THEREFORE NECESSITATING THE NEED FOR DECISIONS BY THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WHEREAS VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH THE USE OF CISCO WEBEX, ALONG WITH ANALOG PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN USED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO ENABLE THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO HOLD REGULAR MEETINGS. 
          WHEREAS COLLIN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY AND PARTICIPATION BECAUSE CITIZENS CAN PARTICIPATE FROM HOME AS OPPOSED TO TRAVELING TO CITY HALL, TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. 
          NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOW THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECEIVE TRAINING FROM THE COMPUTER AND TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT STAFF CTM TO OPTIMIZE THE VIDEO CONFERENCING TECHNOLOGY USE. 
          THIS INCLUDES PROVIDING INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO MAKE IT PRESENTATION, SHARES GREENS ENABLE FUNCTIONS OF THE PLATFORM SUCH AS BLURRING OR CHANGING THE BACKGROUND OF THE VIRTUAL PLATFORM. 
          IT RESOLVED TO IMPROVE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING DURING THE VIRTUAL MEETING STAFF PRESENTING, UM, DURING THE MEETING SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON THE SCREEN. 
          ALSO PERTINENT MEETING DOCUMENTS, SUCH AS MAPS AGENDA AND THE DYNAMIC SPEAKER LIST SHOWING THE QUEUE OF SPEAKERS AND WHO IS NEXT IN THE QUEUE, SHOULD IT BE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED TO ENCOURAGE EQUITABLE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, PROVIDE MORE CLARITY AND EASE OF REGISTRATION. 
          THIS INCLUDES MAKING DIAL IN INSTRUCTIONS AVAILABLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS SO THAT POTENTIAL SPEAKERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT DURING THE CALL AND INCLUSION OF THE CALL IN NUMBER IN CASE THEIR CALL GETS DROPPED. 
          IN ADDITION, AS SOON AS THE COMMUNITY OR STAKEHOLDER IS NOTIFIED ABOUT A ZONING REQUESTS, THE NOTIFICATION SHOULD INCLUDE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO REGISTER TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM WITH THE NEW SYSTEM TWO, THIS ALSO INCLUDES ESTABLISHING A REVISED DEADLINE OF REGISTERING AS A SPEAKER BY 9:00 AM. 
          THE MORNING OF THE MEETING. 
          THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR LATE BACKUP SHOULD NOT HAVE A DEADLINE FOR SPEAKERS BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL IN AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING. 
          THREE POTENTIAL SPEAKERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED OR SHOULD BE NOTIFIED OF THE NEW PROTOCOLS, DEADLINES 
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AND TIMEFRAMES BEFORE REQUIRED BEFORE REQUIRED TO REGISTER TO SPEAK. 
          AND THEN BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT ANY TIME A SPEAKER IS AN AUDIBLE OR IF THE SPEAKER CANNOT BE HEARD FOR A PORTION OF THEIR TIME, TIME SHOULD BE ADDED TO THEIR TESTIMONY. 
          SO I WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK OR CHANGES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I'M TRYING TO GET MY GRID VIEW BACK. 
          SO SHOUT OUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT YET. 
          OH, NOW I DO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          YEAH. 
          CURIOUS ON THE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED OUT OF THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR LENGTH SHOULD NOT HAVE A DEADLINE FOR SPEAKERS. 
          AND THEN IT SAYS SPEAKERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CALL IN AT THE TIME OF THE MEETING. 
          IS THAT THE SPEAKER YOU'RE REFERRING TO THOSE IMPACTED BY THE PREVIOUS SENTENCE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE I SHOULD CLARIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WHAT, UH, WHAT IS THE OUT HOW'S THAT GOING TO WORK? HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE DONE AND HOW ARE WE, UH, NOT SUBJECT TO SOMEBODY SAYING, OH, I DON'T WANT HER TO SPEAK. 
          I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TELL YOU. 
          YOU DIDN'T LET ME PLAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          OH YEAH. 
          A COMMISSIONER. 
          WELL ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER GARY. 
          I SAW YOUR HAND UP FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I'LL GO TO YEAH. 
          FOR SOME REASON. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER GARY. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO RECOMMEND IF WE GET BACK THEN MAYBE IF THEY STARTED THE MEETING, THAT'S WHEN WE COULD DO THE SAME AS WE ARE AT OUR REGULAR MEETINGS BEFORE COVID-19 HAPPENED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND COMMISSIONER DANCLER YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? UH, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE COMMITTEE WAS SUGGESTING. 
          THEY ARE SAYING THAT AT THE BACKUP IS LATE. 
          YOU CAN SIGN ME IN LANDER THAN 9:00 AM. 
          I THOUGHT THAT WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE THAT MUCH LIGHT BACKUP, UM, MAYBE ONE OR TWO ITEMS TO MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT BEFORE THEY COMMENTED. 
          THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME AND, AND DOABLE IN TERMS OF MANAGING THE MEETING. 
          UM, Y'ALL DID WONDERFUL WORK ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          IN REGARDS TO THE LIGHT BACK, IF WE TALK ABOUT LIGHT BACK UP STAFF. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D HATE FOR YOU TO SAY THAT IF ANYBODY'S MISSED SOMETHING LATE IN THE LAST MINUTE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE 11TH HOUR TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THAT BASE THAT I CAN STICK WITH THE SAME SITE, UNLESS IT'S A LIGHT BACKUP STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR, THE REAR RAMIREZ WAS NODDING HER HAIR FOR LATE BACKUP FROM STAFF. 
          SO JUST, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THIS. 
          AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DO YOU WANT TO PASS IT OR WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR WILL OF COMMISSIONER VICE CHAMBER RAMIREZ. 
          SO I'VE EDITED NUMBER TWO TO SAY, UM, THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR LATE BACK UP SHOULD NOT HAVE A DEADLINE FOR SPEAKERS, WHICH I DON'T ACTUALLY, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THE DEADLINE FOR SPEAKERS SHOULD BE AT THE, BY THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE, OKAY. 
          SO THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR LATE BACK UP, UM, SPEAKERS, WISHING TO SPEAK ON ASHLEY, I SHOULD SAY SPEAKERS, WISHING TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS, PULL FOR LEA RELATE BACK UP, UM, SHOULD REGISTER BY THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S STAFF LAID BACK UP OR THAT'S KIND OF, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY STAFF. 
          UM, ARE YOU FINE WITH STAFF, STAFF BACKUP STAFF LEAD BACKUP? CAUSE IT HAPPENS ONCE IN A WHILE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I WANT TO START OUT BY JUST THANKING. 
          I SHOULD SHARE NAUSEA, A STREET LEADER ON THIS AND ALSO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          I WANT TO, I THINK THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I, UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE SOMEWHAT IN WHAT I WOULD THINK OF AS A REHEARSAL 
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FOR A POST PANDEMIC WORLD. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WHEN WE COME OUT OF THIS, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. 
          IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RETHINKING, I THINK WE ALREADY SEE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THIS TOWN OR WORRYING ABOUT THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE AT HOME WORKER. 
          SO I SEE A LOT MORE OF THIS VIRTUAL CONNECTIONS EVEN AFTER THE VIRUS HAS GONE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT RIGHT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, W W WE HAVE BEEN SOME MISSTEP ROLL URGENTS IN THIS TERRITORY. 
          WE KNOW THAT, UH, BUT YEAH, TH THIS, I SAY MAYBE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT NON AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE FACE. 
          AND I THINK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, SHOULD JOIN IN WITH US TO TRY TO MAKE AUSTIN REALLY ONE OF THE BEST VIRTUAL COMMUNICATION COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET PHILOSOPHICAL ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT. 
          WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS THE WAY TO GET A LOT OF AUSTINITES INVOLVED AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR OBJECTIVE IS. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU, MATTHEW AND EVERYBODY ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND COMMISSIONER KING. 
          YES. 
          UM, I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER DUNCAN THERE AND THANK HIM TOO. 
          AND, AND THE REST OF THE WORK GROUP MEMBERS, I'VE WORKED ON THIS AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, THE MAYOR, UH, BARRERA RAMIREZ TOO, CAUSE SHE REALLY DID A YEOMAN, YO WOMAN'S JOB IN PUTTING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATING THIS, UH, THIS, UH, RESOLUTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AND REALLY PUTTING THE WORK GROUP TOGETHER AND FOLLOWING UP AND GETTING EVERYBODY ORGANIZED AND COMPILING EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, RAMIREZ FOR, FOR WHAT SHE'S, UH, HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS. 
          AND, UM, SO, BUT I, UM, ALSO JUST WANTED TO KNOW, DO WE, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A KIND OF FORGOTTEN NOW, BUT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A AGENDA ITEM LATER ON FROM STAFF TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, ON, UH, LIKE, UH, THE ACC HIGHLAND ACC HIGHLAND CENTER THERE. 
          AND, UH, THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO MOVE THERE AND MAYBE A FEW MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD OR SO, AND AS IT RELATES TO THIS, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS AS IT RELATES NOTE CHAIR, JUST SO I'M JUST CLARIFYING AS IT RELATES TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS, BECAUSE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL DESIGNED FROM THE GROUND UP FROM THE INSIDE OUT TO BE HANDLING TECHNOLOGY AND VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS COMING FROM, NOT JUST ABOUT THE, THE ACC CENTER ITSELF, BUT AS IT RELATES TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND, AND, UH, THE INVESTMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE TO REALLY TAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'VE BEEN MAKING THAT, LET'S DISCUSS IT THEN THAT, YEAH. 
          CAUSE LET'S, LET'S GET THIS RESOLUTION TAKEN CARE OF SO THAT WE CAN PASS IT ON COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          IF WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, WILL WE SUBMIT IT FIRST FOR THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT? SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN HERE IS A PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MAKING ZACK. 
          OH, THAT'S A GOOD, AND WE CAN, WE CAN ASK, I CAN THERE'S I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING PROHIBITING US FROM ASKING THAT, UM, OUR CITY OR ADVISING, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DO THAT. 
          AND I WOULD, YEAH. 
          AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN OUR REQUEST, A COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, WHY DON'T WE MAKE AN, A CONCURRENT REQUEST LOW? I MEAN, I WOULD HATE FOR IT TO GET A LOT OF DEPTH IN OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THREE MORE MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          SEND IT FORWARD WITH A REQUEST THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, UH, I GOT COMMENTS AS TO THE WHAT, AS WHAT YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          I SEE THE ONLY OPEN MEETINGS ISSUE BEING THE TRAINING, AND THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW A QUORUM WITHIN A TRAINING. 
          YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR BOARDING COMMISSION, TRAINING UPDATES, ALWAYS VERIFY HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM ONE COMMISSIONER ARE THERE. 
          SO I'M, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, DUNCAN. 
          I THINK THIS CAN GO FORWARD WITH THE CORRECTIONS THAT, UM, HAVE, UM, MS. BURROW RAMIREZ IS, LET ME SEE GRAY. 
          I SAID, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD ALSO PROBABLY CLEAR TRAININGS AS PART OF A REGULAR MEETING, I IMAGINE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT GOES LIKE 15 MINUTES INTO THE MEETING. 
          UM, SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT, 
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BUT I DON'T THINK THAT PRECLUDES, IT WOULD JUST BE, WE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW A PROCESS PROBABLY INCLUDED IN A REGULAR MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR EMOTION? OKAY. 
          I SEE TWO HANDS GONE UP. 
          COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? COMMISSIONER DUNK, COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          IT SAYS TIME. 
          I CAN LOOK INTO A PATTY RAMIREZ. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          AND I WANT TO ADD ALSO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          VICE CHAIR, HERRERA RAMIREZ FOR DOING THIS. 
          IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M COMMISSIONER EVANS. 
          ARE YOU VOTING? NO, I'M NOT OPPOSED THAT MOTION INCLUDE WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ACTUALLY, COULD YOU RESTATE THAT SMITH? IT WAS STILL APPROVED. 
          THE MOTION IS ONLY A CONVICTION DURING THIS DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, DOES IT INCLUDE GOING COME A LOT APARTMENT OR NOT AS A SIMULTANEOUS PROCESS? IT'S A LITTLE GARBLED COMING FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          UM, I UNDERSTOOD THAT AS THIS SIMULTANEOUS PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ESPECIALLY, UH, VICE CHAIR  AND THE VIRTUAL WORKING GROUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S REALLY GREAT. 
          AND 
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NOW ON TO C TO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CITY BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONSIDER ESTABLISHING A WORKING GROUP TASKED WITH PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE BUDGET FOR POSSIBLE ADOPTION BY THE COMMISSION SPONSORS OUR COMMISSIONERS, RAY AND KING, AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY EXPLAIN WHY THE WORDING IS THE WAY IT IS. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST THING TO DO, UM, WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE LEAD COMMISSIONER RAY COMMISSIONER KING. 
          MR. MIX, DESCRIBE THE PROCEDURAL. 
          AND THEN I'LL GO INTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          WE WANTED TO POST IT THIS WAY TO GET THE COMMISSION AND OPTION REALIZING THAT WE HAD JUST DISCUSSED THIS BUDGET ITEM IN OUR PREVIOUS, IN OUR LAST MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. 
          AND SO, UH, BUT WE PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THAT TO SUBMIT TO THE COMMISSIONER IN CASE YOU WANTED TO, UH, CONSIDER AN APPROVED THOSE TONIGHT, AND ALSO GIVE YOU THE OPTION TO SAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CREATE A WORK GROUP. 
          AND LET'S, YOU KNOW, DO SOME MORE WORK ON THIS AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UH, BUT THE CONCERN THERE IS THAT THE TIMELINE ON THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS IS REALLY, REALLY FAST HERE. 
          IT'S REALLY SHORT. 
          SO WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION HERE AND LET THE COMMISSION DECIDE WHICH APPROACH THEY WANTED. 
          YOU ALL WANTED TO TAKE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO BEFORE US IS, DO YOU WANT TO JUST ESSENTIALLY JUST GO WITH THE COMMISSION WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS OR TO ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP OR, AND SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT OR CLARIFY INTENTIONALLY DISTRIBUTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD THE 4TH OF JULY ALSO, BUT ALSO TRYING TO GIVE AS MUCH TIME TO THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER LOOK AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAYBE MAKE SUGGESTIONS THAT WE COULD PUT IT IN THERE TONIGHT AND GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, MORGAN, TO GO AHEAD AND CREATE THE WORK GROUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          AND COMMISSIONER RAY, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'D LOVE IF WE COULD PULL UP THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST TO REFERENCE THAT TEXT, UM, IN OUR DISCUSSION, UM, I WANTED TO PREFACE ALL OF THIS JUST ON A PRETTY GRAVE NOTE THAT, UM, AT THE END OF MAY, ON THE 25TH OF MAY, OUR WHOLE COUNTRY WAS WITNESSED TO THE DEATH OF A BLACK MAN, GEORGE LLOYD AT THE HANDS OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THERE'S BEEN A REAL OUTCRY, UM, ON AN, ON A NATIONAL SCALE THAT WE HAVEN'T WITNESSED, UM, IN MANY YEARS. 
          AND I THINK THAT AS A CITIZENS COMMISSION, WE ARE UNIQUELY CHARGED WITH CONSIDERING HOW OUR EXPERTISE, UM, AND EXPERIENCE CAN BEGIN TO ADVISE THE PROCESS OF RECONCILIATION THAT STEMMING FROM THESE INCIDENTS. 
          UM, 
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SO WHEN WE BRING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD, WE'RE REALLY ASKING, UM, TO BE A PART OF A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW CITIES CAN CONSIDER RACIAL EQUITY, UM, ALONGSIDE THEIR, UM, RESOURCE ALLOCATION. 
          UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. 
          UM, WE TRIED TO KEEP OUR RECOMMENDATIONS PERTINENT TO THE AREAS THAT ZAP IS MOST LIKELY TO INTERACT WITH. 
          UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE SEE A LOT OF RESOLUTIONS. 
          WE SEE A LOT OF CASES, UM, THAT INVOLVED PROGRAMS RELATED TO NACD. 
          SO MOST OF OUR, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ARE POINTED IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S JUST SORT OF THE CONTEXT. 
          UM, IF IT'S HELPFUL, I CAN READ IT TYPICAL. 
          IT SHOULD BE SO THAT EVERYONE CAN CONSIDER IT, OR YEAH. 
          WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND READ IT. 
          THAT ALSO HELPS WITH THE, UM, PEOPLE WHO MAY BE REFERRING TO IT LATER ON. 
          UM, SO AS THE CITY OF AUSTIN CONSIDERS ITS FISCAL YEAR 2021 BUDGET, THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION URGES CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO CONSIDER HOW TO EMBED EQUITY IN OUR CITY'S SPENDING, WE STAND FIRMLY AGAINST RACISM, HISTORIC AND ONGOING THAT CONTINUES TO DEFINE ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY IN OUR CITY, ALONG WITH COUNTLESS COMMUNITY VOICES, ZAP CALLS UPON COUNCIL TO ADOPT A BUDGET THAT TAKES A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY THAT EMPHASIZES THAT OUR COMMUNITY'S HEALTH IS NOT MEASURED BY THE EFFECTIVENESS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT IN THE QUALITY OF OUR SERVICES, PLANNING AND HOUSING, OUR SERVICES THAT COMMISSIONERS GRANTS US INSIGHT INTO INVESTMENTS THAT PROMOTE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES DEEPLY TROUBLED BY THE LEGACIES AND REALITIES OF RACISM IN OUR CITY IS THAT STRONGLY FOLLOWING YES, ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING PROGRAMS THAT PREVENT AND MITIGATE PLACEMENT, WHICH DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS COMMUNITIES, COLOR PRESERVATION AND CREATION OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS A AUSTIN, INCLUDING IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR PATHS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP CRITICAL TO ADDRESSING OUR RACIAL WEALTH GAP, ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, INCLUDING DEDICATED OUTREACH WITH COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO INVOLVE HISTORICALLY EXCLUDED GROUPS IN PLANNING PROCESSES, ADDITIONAL CAPACITY FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO ENSURE STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS CAN THOROUGHLY REVIEW CASES AND CONSULT WITH COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR SMALL AREA PLANNING THAT SECURES A COMMUNITY VOICE IN SHAPING HOW OUR NEIGHBORHOODS GROW AND CHANGE. 
          WE ALSO RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING SUPPORT FOR COMMERCIAL AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE CAPITAL AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES SUPPORT FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL HERITAGE PROGRAMMING THAT PRESERVES AND CELEBRATES THE CREATIVE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND SUPPORT FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT AMPLIFY OPPORTUNITIES AND BUILD SKILLS AMONG LOW INCOME AND MINORITY JOB SEEKERS. 
          FINALLY, ACROSS ALL CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS, DEDICATED RESOURCES FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT SEEKS OUT AND LIFTS UP MARGINALIZED VOICES, IMPROVED DIGITAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT PROMOTES EQUITABLE AND INCLUSIVE PARTICIPATION IN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND EQUITABLE ALLOCATION OF ALL BUDGETS SERVICES, BONDS, AND CAPITAL INVESTMENTS TO COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND AUSTIN. 
          SO THAT IS THE BODY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COMMISSIONER KING AND I PERFORM. 
          UM, I'LL LEAVE IT TO Y'ALL TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT, UM, IT'S IN THE INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION TO, UM, PASS THIS AS PRESENTED OR TO CONSIDER CREATION OF A FORMAL WORKING GROUP, UM, TO FURTHER ADVISE THESE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          AND ANY CONVENTIONAL? YES. 
          DID THE, UH, WERE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE COMMENTS A CERTAIN DATE BECAUSE WE'D BEEN ASKED TO GIVE INPUT TO THE BUDGET BEFORE I WAS WONDERING IF THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A FORMAL REQUEST BY BUDGETING STAFF COME, UH, COMMISSIONER KING, UH, COMMISSIONER DANCLER THAT TH WE THEY'RE ALL BOARDS AND I BELIEVE ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE INPUT. 
          AND AS I RECALL, IT WAS IN THE NORMAL PROCESS WOULD BE ANY TOWARDS THE END OF MAY, AS I UNDERSTAND, BUT BECAUSE OF THE COVID 19 AND ALL ABOUT THESE PROCESSES AT TIMELINES HAVE KIND OF SHIFTED. 
          SO, UH, SO WE'RE SORT OF DOING LIKE A TRUNCATED PROCESS IF YOU WILL, RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO GET IN ON THE BUDGET, UH, YOU KNOW, TIMELINE THERE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. 
          BASICALLY WE, UH, SO YEAH, ZAP IS ASKED TO PROVIDE INPUT, I BELIEVE EVERY YEAR IS THAT AS A COMMISSION, 
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I HAD A CONCERN THAT WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING RELATING TO STORM WATER MAPPING, BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A HANDLE ON HER UNDERGROUND PIPE SYSTEM. 
          AND FOR THE STAFF NOT TO HAVE THAT FULLY DONE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IMPACTS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, EVEN MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE. 
          UM, I REALLY NEED TO INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT. 
          UM, AND I'M HOPING MY FELLOW DRAINAGE, UH, QUEEN HERE WILL HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT LANGUAGE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO INCLUDE, UH, MAYBE THAT'S BEST SAVED FOR ANOTHER DAY, BUT I, I WOULD, I FEEL, I THINK THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE GIVEN, UM, COMMISSIONER EVAN'S INCREDIBLE WORK ON THE BOND COMMITTEE AND HE WILL TELL YOU, YEAH, IT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THAT, THAT DRAINAGE NEEDS ARE ALMOST AS HIGH AS TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND THEY'RE IN THE BILLIONS. 
          AND, UM, I'M JUST HELPING ME CAN COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE. 
          SO I'M OF COURSE VOLUNTEERING, UM, COMMISSIONER  HELP ON IT. 
          UM, BUT IF WE COULD APPOINT A WORKING GROUP, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUICK WAY TO DO IT. 
          MAYBE IT DIDN'T EVEN NECESSITATE A, A MEETING. 
          UM, LET ME JUST SAY, I CAN SEE TWO WAYS OF DOING IT, APPOINTING A WORKING GROUP, OR ALSO JUST SUBMITTING INDIVIDUALLY, UH, YOUR INDIVIDUAL THING, IDEAS AS BACKUP FOR THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND SO WHICHEVER YOU WOULD PREFER. 
          AND CAUSE SOMETIMES WE HAVE JUST IN THE PAST JUST SUBMITTED WHATEVER WE WANTED. 
          UM, SO IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT AND COMMISSIONER BRAY. 
          SEE, IT SEEMS TO ME TO MAKE THE MOST SENSE TO DO THAT IS I FEEL LIKE A WORKING GROUP WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC, HARDER TO GET COMMUNICATION FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT WAS EVERYONE TO SEND IN THEIR COMMENTS WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER AND FASTER BECAUSE THEN YOU'D HAVE TO ORGANIZE A MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          HELLO. 
          I THINK THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT THIS YEAR. 
          I MEAN, IT ALWAYS IS AN ISSUE IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN GREATER BECAUSE OF THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY'RE FACING. 
          MMM. 
          I, UH, I SEE A COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I, I, I THINK THE GROUP FOR THE EFFORT, UH, THE WRITING COMPANY, UH, I LIKED TO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T NEED TO ELABORATE ON IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE OR ONE OF THE LAST LUNCHES TO IMPROVED DIGITAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S REINFORCED AND I DO HOPE THAT CITY COUNCIL PICKS THAT CONSIDERATION OF THEIR BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE ONE OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE ITEMS FOR THEM TO LOOK AT. 
          THERE'S ANOTHER ONE I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. 
          YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SMALLER PLANNING. 
          WE PASSED HIM FOR THAT AND THAT'S RELATED. 
          THERE'S A PRECEDENT. 
          I SEE THAT EVERYONE, EVERY MEETING WE'VE HAVE WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY PLANNING AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE PLAYING REAL ESTATE. 
          WE LEFT EVERY TIME WE'D TAKE UP HIS OWN CAPE AND THAT'S NOT FAIR. 
          IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE APPLICANT, THE LANDOWNERS, CITIZENS, THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYBODY. 
          SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THE CITY CAN GET SERIOUS RELATED TO THAT. 
          UH, WE'VE ALL BEEN JUST INFORMED RECENTLY, THE MANAGERS COMING UP WITH IT, A NEW REORGANIZATION OF OUR PLANNING IS RUNNING OPERATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. 
          THERE IS. 
          I HAVE SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS, BOTH PRO AND CON ON IT. 
          UH, I, I THOUGHT WE ASKED FOR SOME TYPE OF A BRIEFING. 
          I, I I'M TIRED OF BEING IGNORED. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TOP LEVEL DIRECTOR OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR COME TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS AND EXPLAIN TO US EXACTLY WHAT PAC IS ENVISIONED AS, UH, YOU KNOW, I CAN REALLY SUPPORT IT IF, IF I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME MORE, HAVE TO BECOME HAPPINESS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'VE REORGANIZED THAT DEPARTMENT PROBABLY 50 TIMES IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. 
          UH, SO I'M NOT AGAINST INFLATION, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND I HATE TO SOUND BETTER ON THIS. 
          UH, BUT I THINK WE'RE SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND IT'S NO TIME TO DO THAT. 
          WE'RE THE FASTEST GROWING BOATS 
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AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE. 
          UH, SO ANYHOW, I'VE GOT MY TOOTH SENSOR, THEN I DON'T WANT TO BE IGNORED ANYMORE. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BE IGNORED ANYMORE. 
          I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNCIL TO SAVE IT. 
          UH, ONE OF ITS CASE PERMISSIONS IS NOT BEING BRIEFED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE GOOD SERVICES. 
          I WILL, I CAN UP ALL UP TO YOU AND YOU'LL BE VERY HAPPY UNDER D ONE OR ON, UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT, AND ON THE, ON THE MERGER, BUT FIRST, UM, WHAT, UM, IS THERE A MOTION EMOTION TO JUST, UH, COMMISSIONER, JURY? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          THE CONDITIONER, UM, SHERRY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU MADE IN TO THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH COVID-19 AND THEN GEORGE LLOYD, UM, INCIDENT AND OTHER, UM, RACIAL INJUSTICES THAT ARE OCCURRING. 
          AND IT'S REALLY, FOR ME SINKING EVEN MORE THAT I REALLY NEED AN ADVOCATE EVEN MUCH MORE, UM, FOR MY COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I JUST KNOW EVEN TELLING MY OLDEST SON IS, YOU KNOW, HE'S MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE, HE'S MARRIED, HE'S GOT KIDS, BUT AS A MOM, I STILL WORRY THAT ONE DAY, IF SOMEBODY, IF SOME PEOPLE WERE TO ENCOUNTER, YOU KNOW, COMING TO CONTACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND IF THEY, IF ANYBODY WERE TO SAY, UM, HE RESISTED OR HE CREATED THE SITUATION, THAT'S WHY HE'S DEAD. 
          I KNOW I WOULD NOT BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE SINCE HE WAS LITTLE, I ALWAYS TOLD HIM, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER THAT SITUATION. 
          UM, SO THIS REALLY, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT DOCUMENT. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE. 
          UM, BOTH OF YOU COMMISSIONER RAY AND COMMISSIONER KEY, UM, JUST TO INCORPORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM, THE SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT CONTINUES TO OCCUR. 
          UM, AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THOSE, THE EASTERN CHRISTMAS, UM, LOOKING AT INCORPORATING GENTRIFICATION, BECAUSE GENTRIFICATION IS ONE THING DISPLACEMENT NEEDS. 
          ANOTHER PEOPLE CAN BE DISPLACED BECAUSE OF FLOODING REGARDLESS OF THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, WHEREAS GENTRIFICATION, YOU'RE A VULNERABLE COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE BEING TOTALLY MOVED OUT OF, UM, YOUR KNOWN HOME, YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR LAND AND YOU'RE HAVING TO THROW OVER IT. 
          I WOULD HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT I WOULD LOVE TO GET WITH Y'ALL AND AN OFFER THAT, UM, I JUST KNOW IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME DOING IT DURING THIS MEETING. 
          AND SO COMMISSIONER BRAY. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I WANT TO SAY, I THOUGHT THE LANGUAGE WAS REALLY GREAT. 
          UM, I THINK YOU'LL GET A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THIS. 
          I THINK THIS IS LIKE PRETTY MUCH ALMOST READY TO COME IN AND WE'LL HAVE OUR ADDITIONS AND MAYBE CHANGES. 
          UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, ESPECIALLY, I THINK MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH, UH, OUR CITY RIGHT NOW IS THE WAY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION WORKS, UH, TENDS TO ADVANTAGE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADVANTAGED. 
          AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE A VERY NARROW SET OF PEOPLE THAT GENERALLY PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, AND, UH, ARE A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY PLANNING PROCESSES. 
          THEREFORE KIND OF HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL ADVANTAGE TOWARDS PEOPLE THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN, OR ALREADY INCLUDED AND HAVE THE TIME AND RESOURCES. 
          UM, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE POINT, UM, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IN AUSTIN, I THINK, UH, IS RENTERS. 
          UH, AND, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS THAT. 
          I'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH TALKING ABOUT PAST THE HOME HOMEOWNERSHIP. 
          NOT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T ENCOURAGE THAT, BUT I DO SEE SOMETIMES PROBLEMS WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE PUTTING HOMEOWNERSHIP ON A PEDESTAL AS IF IT'S BETTER THAN RENTING. 
          AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OFTEN IDEAS THAT, YOU KNOW, RENTERS SHOULDN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A SAY THEY DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I JUST LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT IDEA. 
          AND ESPECIALLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESSES ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS, WE'RE ADDRESSING PEOPLE LIVE IN APARTMENTS, AS OFTEN AS WE'RE ADDRESSING PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN THE AREA. 
          AND OUR CONVERSATIONS TEND TO BE 90% TALKING WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS AND ONLY 10% WHEN APARTMENTS AND 50% OF THE PEOPLE IN APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN VOTED IN MULTIFAMILY, ESPECIALLY MAJORITY OF LOW INCOME PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE RENTERS AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING HOUSE. 
          SO I, IF I OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS, I PROBABLY WILL ON THOSE FREEDOMS AND MAKING SURE WE'RE PUTTING, CLEANING PEOPLE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THE PROCESS COMMISSIONER GARY, JUST TO ADD UP BEING BOTH A RENTER AND EIGHT, I'M NOW A HOMEOWNER HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN, THAT IS 
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THE LAST REMAINING PART OF LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC HOME OWNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND, UM, IT'S CREATING AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN WE'RE BEING DISPUTED GENTRIFIED OR DISPLACED. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT THERE IS A FANTASY MISSISSIPPI NICHE, BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE SOME CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE IF YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER IN EUROPE, PERSON OF COLOR. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER GAMBLER. 
          BUT FIRST I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE, THAT WE WANT TO DO MORE ON THIS. 
          AND SO THE BIG QUESTION IS, UM, WHETHER TO FORM A WORKING GROUP OR JUST SUBMIT OUR OWN THINGS. 
          AND I THINK I'VE HEARD SUBMIT OUR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, SO LET'S, UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND THEN HAVE THEM IN, AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THEM AT OUR NEXT MEETING COMMISSIONER KING. 
          WELL, I GET BIG FOR MYSELF AND, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER RAY CERTAINLY CAN SPEAK FOR HERSELF, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE THIS ADDITIONAL INPUT IN AND PUT IT IN, UPDATE OUR DOCUMENT HERE AND, AND THEN SEND IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER RAY, SEND IT BACK TO EVERYONE THROUGH ANDREW. 
          SO, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN LOOK AT THE EDITS WE'VE MADE BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK AND BE READY TO VOTE ON IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER BRADY'S COMMENT, BUT I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT HOME OWNERSHIP IS NOT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO LIVE AND OWN THEIR CONDOS AND THEY LIVE IN APARTMENTS. 
          IT'S NOT REALLY A HOUSING TYPE IT'S OWNERSHIP. 
          AND I THINK IT IS. 
          I SAW THE PAST OWNERSHIP. 
          MY REACTION WAS, UH, WE ALSO OUGHT TO COME UP WITH PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN OWNERSHIP BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ECONOMICALLY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS, KEEPING WHAT THEY'VE GOT IN THIS TOWN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DENY SOMEBODY. 
          I THINK PART OF, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET PHILOSOPHICAL AND I WON'T, I PROMISE, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY HELP THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE LESS ADVANTAGED, A LOT OF IT'S ECONOMICS AND ECONOMICS IS JOBS AND IT'S REAL ESTATE AND HOME OWNERSHIP DOES GIVE YOU THAT VALUE. 
          AND HISTORICALLY, YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO APPRECIATE THE HOUSE. 
          WELL, I'M NOT AGAINST A PAST OWNERSHIP, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          WE NEED TO HELP THOSE RENTERS WHO WANT TO MOVE TO OWNERSHIP AND ACCELERATE THAT PROCESS. 
          UH, AND WE ALSO NEED TO HELP RENTERS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          SO I REALLY NEED A SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN SENTIMENT, AND WILL ALSO CHIME IN THAT WE NEED A PATH TOWARDS PASSING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESSES. 
          SO JUST AS A REMINDER OF SOME KEY DATES ON THE CALENDAR, OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE 21ST OF JULY. 
          CORRECT. 
          FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ARE THE FIRST OF TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THE BUDGET IS THE 23RD. 
          THE SECOND IS THE 30TH. 
          UM, SO IDEALLY IT SEEMS AS IF HAVING A VERSION OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT'S MORE FULLY BAKED TO BRING TO OUR MEETING ON THE 21ST AND HOPEFULLY PASS. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST STREAMLINED WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, SO FORMING A WORKING GROUP, MAKING SURE EVERYTHING'S COHESIVE AND THEN BRINGING IT BACK, UM, TO THE, TO THE GROUP ON THE 21ST. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT NOW WOULD BE WILLING TO PUT IN THE WORK, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER KING TO BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 
          SO DO WE JUST WANT TO MMM. 
          AND NOT EVEN POSTPONE IT, OR I GUESS, DO WE NEED AN ACTION? DO WE NEED A MOTION TO POSTPONE OR WE CAN JUST REVISIT THIS. 
          UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT, WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK, SO WE WILL JUST DISCUSS THIS AND, AND, UM, AND I WOULD SAY DEFINITELY HAVE EVERYTHING REALLY NICELY WRITTEN OUT COMMISSIONER KING. 
          I JUST WANT TO JUST THANK COMMISSIONER RAY FOR REALLY, UH, SHE DID A GREAT JOB IN COMPILING ALL THIS TOGETHER AND, AND, AND, AND HELPING TO COORDINATE THE, OUR MEETING. 
          AND SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR WORK ON THIS. 
          AND I REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU ALSO COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GOOD AND I WAS READY TO VOTE APPROVAL RIGHT NOW. 
          SO, BUT I UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY WITH THE POINTS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BROUGHT UP, UM, I THINK THEY'RE ALL REALLY GOOD. 
          THEY'RE ALL REALLY GOOD POINTS. 
          SO I WOULD SAY HAVE EVERYTHING IN, OF COURSE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT TRY TO HAVE IT IN POSSIBLY BEFORE THE 
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WEEKEND. 
          BUT IF NOT, I KNOW HOW HARD LIFE IS WITH SOME PARENTS HAVING TO WATCH THEIR CHILDREN WHILE THEY'RE WORKING AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO HAVE IT IN BY OUR TRADITIONAL DEADLINE OF NOON ON MONDAY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE, CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER KING AND COMMISSIONER RAY HAD THIS IN EARLY, AND I WAS JUST, I TRULY WOULD HAVE BEEN A YES, A COMMISSIONER KING, JUST TO CLARIFY A CHAIR, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. RAY, AND I WILL NEED SOME TIME TO COMPILE WHATEVER FEEDBACK WE GET TO PUT INTO A DRAFT. 
          SO MAY WE PLEASE HAVE A DEADLINE FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO BE MAYBE ON, I DUNNO, COMMISSIONER GREG, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS MAYBE THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE, WOULD THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? GIVE US ENOUGH TIME IF WE SAY BY THE 15TH HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK. 
          SO IF WE COULD HAVE IT JULY THE 15TH, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, WOULD YOU SAY LIKE FIVE O'CLOCK? IS THAT OKAY? COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          YUP. 
          OKAY. 
          FIVE O'CLOCK ON THE 15TH OF JULY, HAVE THE COMMISSIONER SEND THEIR FEEDBACK TO US. 
          AND, UM, THEN, UH, AND I, AND I GUESS THEY WOULD NEED TO SEND THAT THROUGH ANDREW, SO WE DON'T HAVE A CORE ISSUE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SEND YOUR FEEDBACK TO ANDREW AND HE'LL FORWARD IT TO US. 
          AND WE NEED THE FEEDBACK, MY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON JULY THE 15TH, WHICH IS FIVE O'CLOCK ON JULY THE 15TH, AND WE'LL COMPILE THAT AND THINGS, WE WILL HAVE IT, UH, THE COMPILE FEEDBACK IS THAT IS OUR DEADLINE WOULD THEN IT BE THE NOON, UM, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, WHATEVER WORKS FOR BOTH YOU AND COMMISSIONER RAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WE, I KNOW THAT OUR INTENTION IS TO PROBABLY IS TO TRY TO HAVE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'RE SURE BY NOON ON MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE THE DRAFT READY FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TO POST TO, FOR, FOR THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW. 
          AND THAT'S NOON ON A MONDAY, THE 20TH. 
          OKAY. 
          NOON. 
          OKAY. 
          AND YOUR DEADLINE AGAIN, IF YOU COULD JUST REPEAT THAT, IT'S THE DEADLINE THAT WE NEED FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE 5:00 PM ON WEDNESDAY THE 15TH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          AND THEN NEXT, UM, OUR C3 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING, UM, MATTERS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED ANY PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT I'LL BET THERE WAS NOTHING. 
          AND THEN D 
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ONE PIPING PLANNING IN AUSTIN, THE LILY LEGACY AND SPEEDING. 
          SO IT WAS ME AND COMMISSIONER, BUT THIS IS REALLY ALL COMMISSIONER DUNCAN. 
          WHO'S HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HOLD ON, LET ME, I GOT THIS PHONE. 
          I'M GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GOING TO NEED MY PRESENTATION TO BE BROUGHT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE. 
          SO, UH, BUT, UH, THIS IS IN A SENSE, IT'S SORT OF INTERESTING TIMING BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A VIRTUAL, UH, MEMORIAL PREDICTABLY TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:00 AM, UH, HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND I KNOW A LOT OF HIS FRIENDS ARE GOING TO BE ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, UH, LET ME, I'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE THIS AS, AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BUT I HAVE, UH, MANY OF YOU DID NOT KNOW DICK LILLY. 
          I, UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING FOR 60 YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER EVANS KNOWS HIM. 
          WELL, HE WORKED FOR HIM IN THE LATE SIXTIES. 
          UH, YEAH, PICK UP THE NEXT ONE. 
          YOU WANT ME TO JUST SAY CLICK OR BECAUSE I'VE GOT 20 SLIDES OR I'M A DICK PASSED AWAY TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          HE WAS 89 YEARS OLD, A CLICK, UH, WHAT SOUND LEFT THE CRICKET. 
          UH, I'M NOT GONNA READ THIS TO YOU, BUT AS I SAID, I MET HIM IN, UH, 60 YEARS AGO WHEN I GRADUATED FROM UT IN FACT, I, I TOOK HIS JOB. 
          HE INTRODUCED ME TO PLANNING, SO I HAVE A SPECIAL, UH, AND THEN ACTUALLY WHEN I CAME BACK IN 84, UH, THAT WAS WHEN HE HAD DECIDED TO MOVE INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          SO I CLICKED SOME OF THE THINGS HISTORICALLY, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT TO SOME OF OUR YOUNGER MEMBERS THAT UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE, UH, UNDERSTANDING WHERE AUSTIN, UH, THE FOUNDATION OF PLANNING AND AUSTIN, WHICH DECK WAS A KEY PART OF IT, TRAINING BACK FROM, UH, UH, GETTING HIS MASTER'S IN, UH, AT GEORGIA TECH IN 1965. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND BACK IN THE MID SIXTIES, 
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THERE WERE NO PLANNING SCHOOLS IN TEXAS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HE SLEPT AT GEORGIA TECH. 
          HE CAME BACK A YEAR AND HE WAS ONE YEAR HE WAS DIRECTOR AND WACO. 
          AND THEN HE GOT BACK TO HIS LOVE WITH AUSTIN. 
          AND, UH, UH, HE WAS HIRED AS A COORDINATOR IN LESS THAN A YEAR LATER, HE WAS PROMOTED TO ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. 
          AND THEN FOUR YEARS LATER, HE WAS PROMOTED TO DIRECTOR. 
          LIKE, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AUSTIN IN THE SEVENTIES. 
          AND SOME OF DICK'S PHILOSOPHIES TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT HE WAS, UH, TO THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AND, AND ONE OF HIS, HIS STATEMENTS THAT I, I STILL LIVE WITH US. 
          WE'RE NOT THAT CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER GROWTH, GROWTH IS GOING TO COME, AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW HE STRESSED QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. 
          UH, AND, UM, YEAH, HE ALSO WAS A STRONG SUPPORTER OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING. 
          HE GOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROGRAM STARTED AND IT WAS IMPORTANT. 
          THAT'D BE TAILORED TO INDIVIDUAL AREAS, WHETHER IT BE EAST OR WEST, ALSO NORTH OF RICHMOND, PORT, UM, DICK ALSO, UH, UH, HE WAS A VOICE FOR THE ELIMINATION OF, UH, UH, OF, OF STIMULATION OF GROWTH. 
          HE SAID, THAT'S GOING TO COME, LET'S TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT. 
          I THINK A GOOD QUOTE THAT, UH, UM, AIRPORT TO HIM BACK IN THE EARLY 77 WASN'T FOR DICK, THE WHOLE THING WOULD HAVE FOLDED BY NOW. 
          UH, I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF MY PROGRAMS TAKING ME A LONG TIME. 
          UH, AUSTIN TOMORROW ACTUALLY TOOK ABOUT FIVE OR SIX YEARS ALSO, AND IT HAD ITS UPS AND DOWNS CLICK. 
          UH, I JUST PUT THIS IN HERE BECAUSE, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, NO MATTER WHAT PROFESSION YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW ARE ESSENTIAL SERVICES, BUT DICK GAVE HIS ALL AT ONE MEETING IN THE MIDDLE OF BOSTON TOMORROW. 
          HE ACTUALLY FAINTED ON THE FLOOR OF CITY HALL. 
          IT WAS JUST A TEMPORARY THING, BUT IT WAS EXHAUSTION HAVE BEEN PUTTING SO MUCH TIME INTO IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF SUBJECTS BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE FACING ARE, ARE NEW. 
          BELIEVE ME, THEY'RE NOT NEW. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF HOUSING, WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING FOR LESS ADVANTAGE. 
          DICK WAS, IT WAS PREACHING THAT 60 YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS AGO, THERE'S A QUOTE. 
          THERE IS A SEGMENT OF ALMOST ANY COMMUNITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEDS, THE MAJORITY ENJOY. 
          AND HE WAS ALSO LOOKING FOR TRYING TO PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IN TERMS OF THE PRESERVATION, IT WOULD BE A TRAGIC TO LOSE ALL OF OUR OLDER BUILDINGS. 
          HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING OUR CONSTRUCT CAPITOL VIEWS. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE CAPITOL VIEWS OF ROADS IN THE MID SIXTIES WHEN THE FIRST CONDO NEXT TO THE CAPITOL GROUNDS AND DICK WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THAT PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF RAPID. 
          AND THIS WAS IN THE SEVENTIES WHEN ALSO DID NOT HIT BOTH EITHER IF IT'S TWO BUILDING BOOM AND IT'S TERMS OF AESTHETICS, IT WAS CALLED FOR BETTER DESIGN, BETTER QUALITY FLIPPED, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES THAT WE THINK ABOUT BECAUSE WATERSHEDS, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, WE THINK IN TERMS OF OUR TURNOVER, WATERSHEDS AND STARTING IN THE 1980S, UH, WITH THE MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD AND THE COMPREHENSIVE WATERSHED ORDINANCE IN 19, UH, 85, BUT IN THE 19TH, THE FIRST ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY 1974. 
          IT WAS PROMOTED BY DECA. 
          IT'S JUST A WATERWAYS OVER IT. 
          IT'S NOT A REAL TOUGH ONE. 
          AND THEN WE HAD 19, WE HAD 1980 LAKE AUSTIN ORDINANCE, 1980 A NIGHT AT BARTON CREEK COORDINATES THE 1980. 
          WE HAD WILLIAMSON COUNTY ORDINANCE AND IN 1981, A LORE WATERSHEDS ORDINANCE, ALL OF THESE WERE PASSED BEFORE THE MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD OF 1981. 
          UH, AND HERE WAS A QUOTE DESPITE THE HISTORY, UH, CLICK ONE MORE, BUT WHAT DICK WAS INSTRUMENTAL? UH, WELL THAT'S BECAUSE I SAID THE COUNCIL WAS NOT THAT AGGRESSIVE AND ACTUALLY FUNDING THE ENFORCEMENT OF THESE ORDINANCES. 
          THIS WAS A QUOTE MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD OCCURRED ONLY THREE WEEKS. 
          I COULD GET WARRANTS, THE SORT OF COUNCIL THAT THE STUDY SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE ON. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WATERSHED DEVELOPED, UH, UH, THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, UH, THIS WAS WHEN THE CONDITIONER RIGHT ON. 
          I APPRECIATE A PROBLEM IS GETTING US OUT OF CARS. 
          I MEAN, WE WERE, CARS WERE PROBABLY IN 1972. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, WE WERE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, AND NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY WAS ON BOARD, BUT IT WAS NOT, UH, AN UNKNOWN A COMMENT. 
          THIS WAS A QUOTE, DITCH, CLICK, UH, UTILITIES. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING A LOT OF US DON'T REALIZE, BUT, UH, IN 1974, AUSTIN, AUSTIN, TAXPAYERS, UH, DENIED YOU CHARLIE BOX. 
          AND A LOT OF IT I'VE BEEN TOLD I WASN'T AROUND THEN, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD LESS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY DIDN'T 
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PROVIDE UTILITIES GROWTH. 
          WOULDN'T COME BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, WELL, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. 
          IT CAME AS AN ADVOCATE. 
          AND HE SAID, IF THE BOND ISSUE DOESN'T PASS, THERE WILL BE NO PERMITS. 
          AND IN THAT PIECE, 76, ANOTHER BOND ISSUE DID PASS THOUGH. 
          WE HAD SOME THAT YOU FELT IT, BUT YOU'RE TELLING US WE'RE STILL A PROBLEM AND ASK THEM THE GROWTH IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES CAME ABOUT. 
          UH, WE CAME UP WITH THE NEW SPACE, YOGA DISTRICTS, IF WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO EXTEND OUR FACILITIES. 
          AND DAVE WAS AN ADVOCATE OF THAT AND SET UP THE STRUCTURE TO THIS WAS A MAP SHOWING GALLUP, YOU'D SEE THE POCKMARKED ALL UP IN THE NORTH, IN THE WEST AND THE NORTHWEST. 
          MOST OF THAT AREA DEVELOPED UNDER A MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT CAUSE TO DISTANCE UNTIL THIS NEXT ANNEXATION LOOK CLOSELY AT THE KIND OF MAP THERE IN 1950, THE PINK WAS AUSTIN'S GRAPHIC AND THE SIXTIES, IT GREW JUST SLIGHTLY THAT'S THE, THE GOAL 1970S WAS WHEN AUSTIN REALLY EXPANDED THAT'S THE YELLOW. 
          AND THAT WAS THE PERIOD WHEN DICK WAS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. 
          SO HE WAS PLANNING DIRECTOR OF AUSTIN DURING THE TIME OF OUR GREATEST TERRITORIAL EXPANSION. 
          NOW I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE MAP NEXT TO IT, BECAUSE THAT IS THE AREA THAT WAS ANNEX. 
          AND IT WAS ANNEXED WITH INTERIM, OUR ZONING 50 YEARS AGO, INTERIM ZONING. 
          YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT. 
          WE GOT WITH THE, WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY SHOULD PROCEED TO DO A PLAN AND TO CONVERT IT TO A LEGITIMATE ZONING, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. 
          WE HAVE FAILED AND IT'S STILL OUT THERE. 
          WE ARE FACED, UH, ALMOST EVERY MEETING WAS SOME INTERIM TYPE ZONING WE NEEDED TO IMPROVE. 
          UM, AND IN 1982, JUST BEFORE HE LEFT THE STUDY, HE SAID IT ELIMINATED ZONING AS A MASSIVE PROCEDURAL TASK. 
          BUT WHEN I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO FIND ON AN AREA BASIS, OKAY, NEXT ZONING, WE TALKED ABOUT BLACK. 
          WE'VE DISCOVERED SOMETHING NEW ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE, OKAY. 
          MISSING METAL IN 1971. 
          THIS IS A PICTURE OF DIXON. 
          CLUSTER. 
          HOUSING IS IN PLAN. 
          UNIT DEVELOPMENTS CAN MINIMIZE THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF THROAT. 
          HE WAS PROMOTING MISSING MIDDLE 50 YEARS AGO. 
          RIGHT? SO WE STILL HAVEN'T DONE MUCH OF A GOOD JOB. 
          UH, THE NEXT IS, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE LAST TIME THAT WE ADOPTED A CONFIDENTIAL CODE AND I, THEM, AND ACTUALLY SOME PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME CREDIT CAUSE I WAS DIRECTOR IN 85 WHEN HE FINALLY ADOPTED, BUT I NOT TO GET THE CREDIT. 
          THE ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY DRAFTED AND IT WAS EARLIER, ADOPTIONS WERE ALL UNDER DIXON JURISDICTION, UH, AND, UH, UH, TALKING ABOUT GROWTH. 
          THIS WAS AN INTERESTING GOAT. 
          EVEN IF WE HAD 2 MILLION PEOPLE, IF THE RIGHT DECISIONS WERE MADE, AUSTIN QUALITY OF LIFE COULD BE MAINTAINED. 
          INTERESTINGLY, AT THE TIME DICK MADE THAT STATEMENT. 
          THE CITY WAS LIKE 300,000, IF AMELIA NOW, UH, AND HE'S SAYING THAT GROWTH IN AND OF ITSELF WILL NOT DESTROY IT. 
          WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE LIFESTYLE AND THAT FILLS THE VISION, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS. 
          HE WAS A PROPHET. 
          AND SO BEFORE HIS TIME, HE ALSO WAS IN THE QUOTE IN 79, WE NEED THE LARGER PLANNING STEP 79 AUSTIN WAS PICKING UP. 
          WE GET SO BOGGED DOWN IN BETWEEN THE PROCESSING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR REPORT DISHES. 
          I'M SURE EVERY DIRECTOR, SINCE THAT TIME COULD TAKE THAT QUOTE, THAT THAT'S UP TO OUR POLICY MAKERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP UP. 
          DICK WAS A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL. 
          HE WAS ACTIVE. 
          HE TOOK THE STANDS AND HE WAS APPLAUDED BY ALL THIS FIRST QUOTE IS ENVIRONMENTALIST WHO YOU CAN'T READ THE ARTICLE, BUT PICK A LOT AND CALL IT ECOLOGICAL, JUST LIVELY CITY PLANNER. 
          HE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE BARTON CREEK FAN. 
          THE NEXT ONE IS WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING TO THE HOME BUILDERS, HE'S THE MOST COMPETENT PLANNING DIRECTOR ON THE SOUTHWEST. 
          UH, I WOULD TAKE IT EVEN GEOGRAPHICALLY FURTHER THAN THAT, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE LAWYER. 
          SHE'S THE BACKBONE OF THE AUSTIN TOMORROW PROGRAM. 
          THOSE ARE ALL QUOTES BY DIFFERENT INTRODUCED IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          DICK WAS A MAGICIAN AND WORKING WITH POLITICIANS, I COULD SPEND A WHOLE PRESENTATION ON THIS, BUT IF YOU GO BACK IN HISTORY AND LOOK AT AUSTIN, DICK WORKED UNDER FIVE DIFFERENT MAYORS AND THEY WERE UNIQUE AND WAS LIKE A ROLLER COASTER. 
          POLITICALLY. 
          THEY GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES DURING THE FIRST PART OF HIS TENURE, THE MAYOR WAS RAW, RIGHT? IF YOU WANT TO GOOGLE ROY BUTLER, YOU WILL FIND THAT HE WAS THE MOST BUSINESS ORIENTED, MOST CONSERVATIVE MAYOR. 
          WE PROBABLY HAD IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          NOW HE OWNED BUSINESSES AFTER BUSINESSES. 
          UH, AND HERE'S A QUOTE FROM ROY BUTLER. 
          LILY IS A CAPABLE, 
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CONFIDENT FELLOW. 
          I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY ON COUNCIL JUST DISSATISFIED WITH HIM. 
          SO A LOT OF MORE CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE FELT LIKE HE WAS TOO LIBERAL. 
          HE DID HAVE HIS SHARE OF BEARDS AND VOLKSWAGENS WORKING FOR HIM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, ON THE OTHER HAND, TALKER WAS FOLLOWED BY A GUY NAMED JEFF FRIEDMAN. 
          JEFF FRIEDMAN WAS THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM. 
          UH, JEFF FRIEDMAN WAS A SPOTLESS OFFICER CALLED THE HIPPY MAYOR. 
          UH, AND JEFF FRIEDMAN WAS, UH, ELECTED, SUPER LIBERAL, A AND M TRIPLE A PHOTOGRAPHS. 
          THERE, THERE WERE A LOT OF FIRST UNDER, UH, UNDER THIS PERIOD. 
          WE HAD THE FIRST, UH, UH, UH, AUSTIN FEMALE MAYOR WITH THE FLIP, THE DIANE KEATON. 
          AND WE HAD, UH, AN INTERESTING LADY, I BARREL HAND TALK TO THEM. 
          SO OUR FIRST, UH, UH, A BLACK MEMBER, HE ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY WITHIN 24 HOURS OF THE TIME DECLARED LAST WEEK. 
          IF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE LAST QUOTE DOWN HERE WITH SALLY SHIPMAN, A LOT OF YOU DON'T KNOW SALLY, BUT SHE WAS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS ABOUT MAYORS WE'VE HAD IN A LONG TIME. 
          HER QUOTE WAS THE MOST UNIQUE THING ABOUT DICK LILLY IS THAT HE HAS SURVIVED IN AUSTIN, VERY INNOVATIVE PLANNING EFFORTS. 
          HE'S A VERY DIPLOMATIC PERSON, VERY TALENTED IN NORTHERN NEGOTIATION, AND HE HAS THE ABILITY TO GET ALONG WITH EVERYONE, UH, BACK IN THE EIGHTIES CIRCUMSTANCE, ANOTHER MEDIA, ALL THIRD COAST. 
          AND THERE WAS A LONG ARTICLE ABOUT HIM. 
          I LIKED THIS QUOTE, THE SHIP IS THE ADJECTIVE MOST FREQUENTLY USED TO DESCRIBE THE, THE, THE, UH, LOW KEY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          WHO'S BOY REPUTATION IS AN ACTIVE ONE. 
          HE REALLY DOES SEEM IN A CHURCH CHOIR, UH, DICK, UH, LEFT TO GO INTO PRIVATE SECTOR IN 1984 AFTER A TOTAL OF 22 YEARS WITH THE CITY. 
          UH, AND, UM, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WELL, HERE'S REAL QUICK. 
          LET ME GET INTO, IT WAS A QUOTE BY DEF THIS OFFICE HAS NEVER BEEN CONTROVERSIAL. 
          IN MY OPINION, WE HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THE OBJECTIVE ROAD. 
          WE NEVER PLAY FAVORITES. 
          WE TRY TO INFORM EVERYBODY WHO COMES THROUGH THE DOOR, WHAT THE RULES ARE, IF THEY WANT TO PLAY BY THEM. 
          IT CLEARLY QUICK ANOTHER ASPECT OF DICK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS HE WAS A MENTOR. 
          HE LOVED TO, UH, MEET WITH STUDENTS. 
          HE MET, MET WITH THE MONEY. 
          HE WAS A PLANNING DIRECTOR. 
          AND THEN AFTER HE LEFT, HE ACTUALLY TALKED TO HER. 
          SHE WAS AT UT PLANNING SCHOOL, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG PLANNERS. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE NO IDEA ANYMORE WHO REALLY GOT STARTED IN, UH, IN THEIR COMMITMENTS. 
          SO FOOD DAY, UH, AFTER DICK LEFT, HE WAS A KEY PERSON WITH THE TEXAS APA, UH, TEXAS. 
          UH, IT WAS MORE THAN SEVERAL THINGS. 
          AND ACTUALLY APA IS CO-SPONSORING THE, THE TRIBUTE FORM TOMORROW, CLICK TWO THINGS. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DEFI. 
          I DID HAVE A BEAUTIFUL VOICE. 
          SHE WASN'T A SINGER AT FIRST ARTICLE IS ACTUALLY 1954 WHEN HE WAS A FRESHMAN AT UT WHEN HE WAS SEEING IN THE METHODIST CHURCH CHOIR. 
          UH, AND HE DID THROUGHOUT, UH, HE HAD A BEAUTIFUL BLUSH AND HE ALSO WAS A SABER. 
          HE ACTUALLY SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE NAVY BEFORE, AND THEN AFTER HE RETIRED, HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON LAKE TRAVIS. 
          SO HE WAS A SINGER AND A SAILOR AS WELL AS A HELL OF A PLANNER. 
          SO IN SUMMARY, I WANT TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND IT GOES A LOT FURTHER THAN THIS, BUT I CONSIDER THE LEGACY FROM 1965 TO 1984. 
          THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED TODAY, BUT THEY WERE ALL STARTED DURING HIS TENURE, AUSTIN TOMORROW, THE LAST CHUNK FRIENDSHIPS, ZONING ORDINANCE AND GROWTH POLICY, WATERSHED ORDINANCES, CAPITOL VIEW, ORDINANCE LIFTS THREE 60 ORDINANCE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE ANNEXATIONS UNTIL THE DISTRICTS CLEAR. 
          THAT'S THE LAST ONE. 
          SO LIKE I SAID, I, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNEW HIM, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT SOME OF HIS GOOD WORK, SO I'M MAKING IT A LOT EASIER FOR YOU TODAY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO DO THIS, BUT DICK WAS A SPECIAL PERSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE AND COMMISSIONER KING. 
          YES. 
          GIVE ME SOME DUNCAN. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT HISTORY. 
          I, I, YOU KNOW, I, I, UH, I MOVED HERE IN 1979. 
          SO A LOT OF THAT YOU HELPED FILLED IN THE GAP PRIOR TO THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THIS PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, HOW AUSTIN GOT TO WHERE 
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IT WAS WHEN I GOT HERE IN 1979, AND THEN HOW WE'VE BEEN BUILDING ON THAT REALLY AND EVOLVING FROM THAT. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD YOUR HAND IN THIS TUBE, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN AND IN THIS CITY AND THE PLANNING THAT'S GONE THROUGH HERE, AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO THANK YOU TOO, FOR NOT ONLY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND HELPING ME LEARN MORE ABOUT HIM, BUT FOR YOUR OWN SERVICE TO OUR CITY OVER THE YEARS AND THE DECADES HERE, JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JIM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BY THE WAY, BY THE WAY, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT RESIGNING FROM THE COMMISSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I'M JUST THANKING YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS FOR OUR CITY GYM, AND YOU'RE GIVING YOUR, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR SERVICE BACK TO US ON THIS COMMISSION. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, AND THANK YOU FOR A VERY INTERESTING AND EDUCATING POWERPOINT. 
          AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, IT'S A GOOD LEAD IN TO 
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NET FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BECAUSE I HAD ASKED, UM, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RODNEY GONZALES, AND I HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND HE HAS ABOUT A BRIEFING ON THE PROPOSED MERGER OF THE NHC D AND PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          AND HE WILL BE I'LL QUOTE HE'S. 
          HE WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ENDED UP COMING MEETING. 
          AND, UM, HE ASKED THAT HE, THAT THEY ATTEND HIS APP COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH OCCURS AFTER THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS RELEASED, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY 13TH. 
          SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          AND, UM, SO I'VE ASKED HIM TO, UH, IF WE CAN HAVE A BRIEFING AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND SO WE CAN JUST PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA ITEM, UM, FOR A BRIEFING, AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO, BUT IT WOULD BE A BRIEFING ON THE MERGER ON THAT NACD AND PLANNING AND ZONING MERGER. 
          AND ON THAT NOTE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU'D ALL LIKE TO PROPOSE MENTIONED AND THEN ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS? AND THEN I GUESS IT MEANS THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED, BUT I WANT TO ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I REALLY, I, I, A LOT OF GOOD CAME OUT OF TONIGHT. 
          I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR. 
          BERRERA RAMIREZ FOR THE, UM, VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND COMMISSIONER RAY AND COMMISSIONER KING FOR, UM, THE, FOR THE CITY BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMISSIONER DUNCAN FOR THE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN. 
          AND IT'LL GET INTO OUR HEAD FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR OUR NACD PLANNING AND ZONING, UM, BRIEFING. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH EVERYBODY. 
          AND, UM, COMMISSIONER GARY CHECKING, THERE WERE NO COMMITTEE REPORTS, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH COACH AND ORDINANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          TOMORROW MEETING CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          SO WE WILL HAVE A BRIEFING OR WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE FROM OUR COMMITTEE NEXT TIME. 
          SO ON THAT NOTE, CONSIDER IT STILL LIGHT OUT. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, IT ALL THE TIME REALLY DIDN'T MOVE AT ALL, BUT THE BUREAU WOULDN'T GIVE ME NO SIGN. 
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