* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] CHAIR FRANCIS OUT. HE WAS IS AUDI ALSO, UH, THIS IS VICE CHAIR, UH, HOLDING DOWN THE FLOOR WHILE HE'S OUT. SO, UH, FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS, UH, APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. AND THEN IF WE COULD, UH, MOVE SHIFT THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH MY, UH, EXCUSE ME, ON POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, UP TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA. THAT WAY THEY CAN TAKE OFF ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT DEMO. ALRIGHT. HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A FORMAL MOTION. I DON'T THINK WE NEED NO. AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, CALL CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, LEVY. WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'LL HAVE MY PROPER SCHOOL OWNERS IN FRONT OF ME. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, LOOKING OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE, LEAVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY TO HAVE IT HANDY. OF COURSE YOU DO. THEY HIDE OUT THERE DUSTY, THAT'S IT? THAT'S ON VERY FAST. I'M IMPRESSED. [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Consider approval of the minutes from the Mayor’s Committee for People with Disabilities June 12, 2020 Meeting.] IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING THAT ANY, UH, TAKE A CAUGHT A MOTION TO APPROVE OR AMENDED THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I SECOND. OKAY. ONE SECOND. ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS, AS THEY ARE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY MOTION CARRIES. WE ARE FOR THESE MINUTES, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER LEVY. UH, IF I COULD INTERJECT, UH, COMMISSIONER GETS, DID YOU RECEIVE THE EMAIL? I JUST SENT YOU? YES. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, [CALL TO ORDER] I DIDN'T FORGET, DO ROLL COSTS. LET ME DO ROLL CALL REAL QUICK. UH, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE. UH, SOMETHING THE GUN PASS. SO JOSE'S HERE. UH, GENE BROOKS, IF WE LOST GENE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YOU DID. OKAY. UH, TARYN. YEP. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOEY. YES. UH, DIANE, UH, ROBIN HERE, DANNY, EMILY AND DEBORAH HERE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ALRIGHT, NOW SINCE NO ONE HAD ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS PRESENTATION UP NEXT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OVER TO THE MAYA. OKAY, WONDERFUL. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. LET ME START SHARING MY SCREEN. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY GUYS. I'M I'M I'M UH, HAD A PROBLEM GETTING, I'M GLAD YOU MADE IT. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? OKAY. CAN EVERYONE SEE IT? YES. OKAY. WONDERFUL. WONDERFUL. [3A. STAFF PRESENTATIONS: Presentation and Discussion: Maya Guevara, Community Engagement Specialist and Cristina Tangredi, Program Specialist with Office of Police Oversight, regarding Austin Police interaction with persons with disabilities.] UM, MY NAME IS MAYA. UM, I AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST WITH OPO AND HAVE CHRISTINA HERE WITH ME AS WELL. IF YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF, CHRISTINA, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU THOUGH. YOU'RE ON MUTE. THANK YOU. I AM CHRISTINA. AND FOR PROGRAMS AT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND I HAD A CHANCE TO BE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU ALL, SO I'M EXCITED. OKAY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY COOL THAT Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO [00:05:01] CREATE SOME TIME ON YOUR AGENDA FOR US TO COME AND SPEAK. UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL, WHICH IS BASICALLY SOME UPDATES FROM OUR OFFICE, OUR LATEST, UM, REPORT THAT'S COME OUT OF OUR OFFICE, WHICH IS OUR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT. AND THEN SOME OTHER, UM, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY UPDATES SPECIFICALLY THAT HAVE COME OUT OF COUNCIL AND COME OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF DO A VERY HIGH LEVEL ON THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, UM, FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS TO HAVE, UM, KIND OF A GREATER DIALOGUE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU'LL ALSO HAVE PRIORITIES AROUND POLICING AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND KIND OF GIVE THESE UPDATES FROM OUR OFFICE. AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO KEEP THAT BRIEF. SO WE HAVE TIME FOR MORE GENERAL, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH Y'ALL. UM, SO JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SOME OF YOU HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR OFFICE THAN OTHERS, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL. UM, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR OFFICE IS THE, THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO WE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE NOT PART OF APD AT ALL. WE'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE. WE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING. APD IS CONDUCT THEIR PRACTICES, THEIR POLICY, HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY TREAT PEOPLE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND SO WE HAVE THREE MAIN BRANCHES OF OUR OFFICE, THREE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF OUR OFFICE, AND THE FIRST IS COMPLAINTS PROCESSING COMPLAINTS. SO OUR OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE FOLKS TO CALL. IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE, WE TAKE COMPLAINTS. AND THANK YOU. BUT IF ANYBODY HAS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH APD SPECIFICALLY, UM, FEELS LIKE THEY WERE THE VICTIM OF POLICE MISCONDUCT JUST HAD AN INTERACTION THAT DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT. UM, OUR OFFICE TAKES THOSE COMPLAINTS AND WE START, UM, WE DO A REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT AND THEN FORWARD THE COMPLAINT TO BE INVESTIGATED. AND THEN WE MONITOR THAT INVESTIGATION. SO THAT WAS A HUGE PORTION OF WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES. AND, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED A HUGE INFLUX OF COMPLAINTS SINCE, UM, THE PROTESTS, UM, OVER THIS PAST MONTH. UM, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN REALLY WHERE A LOT OF OUR ATTENTIONS HAVE GONE TOWARDS PROCESSING THOSE COMPLAINTS AND MAKING SURE THAT INVESTIGATIONS HAPPEN, THAT THEY'RE THOROUGH, THAT THEY'RE IMPARTIAL. THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT CHRISTINA AND I DO, RIGHT? IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, UM, REALLY HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO OUR LATE, OUR UPDATES ON OUR WORK, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS. UM, AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS, IS RESEARCH AND POLICY. AND SO WE ARE A VERY, VERY SMALL OFFICE WHERE AT ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE GROWING, UM, WE'RE GROWING EVERY DAY, UM, TO MEET, TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT, THAT DEMAND OF THE WORK OF THIS WORK OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. UM, AND SO WE STILL ARE BUILDING OUT THAT RESEARCH AND POLICY ARM OF THE OFFICE. UM, AND WE ARE WORKING ON HIRING FULL TIME STAFF TO FILL OUT THAT, THAT PIECE OF THE OFFICE. HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT A FEW PIECES OF RESEARCH, UM, EITHER, UH, IN HOUSE USING OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMPLAINT SPECIALISTS HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND AS WELL AS IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT. SO, UM, IN DECEMBER OR IN JANUARY, AND WE PUT OUT OUR, OUR, OUR PROFILING REPORT, UM, WHICH WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION. AND THEN THIS WAS OUR SECOND REPORT. SO THE 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT, UM, THIS IS OUR LATEST REPORT FROM OUR OFFICE. AND SO CHRISTINA'S GOING TO START US OFF TODAY, JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT THIS REPORT SAYS AND ITS SIGNIFICANCE, ITS SIGNIFICANCE. SO HANG ON, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU, CHRISTINA. THANK YOU, MAYA. UM, AS WE JUST RELEASED OUR 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT BACK JUNE, AND THIS REPORT ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF ITS KIND THAT OUR OFFICE PUT OUT THERE AND IT TOOK AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DATA AND PROVIDED AN ANALYSIS INTO THIS DATA. SO WHAT THIS REPORT DOES IS GIVE THE SUMMARIES OF ALL THE INCIDENTS, HIGHLIGHTS AREAS OF CONCERN OR AREAS FOR FACTORS KEPT REOCCURRING AND THEN PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN IMPROVE MOVING FORWARD. [00:10:05] I'M TRYING, AND I'M REALIZING THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW, OKAY, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU FOR DIVING DEEPER INTO THE DATA. THERE WERE 12 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IN 2018 INVOLVING 11 INDIVIDUALS AND 33 OFFICERS. ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS INVOLVED IN TWO OIS INCIDENTS ON THE SAME DAY. SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S 11 INDIVIDUALS IN 12 INCIDENTS. UM, BUT LOOKING MORE INTO THESE INCIDENTS, SEVEN OF THE 12 ARE FATAL. FIVE OF THE SEVEN FATAL INCIDENTS WERE DETERMINED. FEED VITALITY IS CAUSED BY POLICE AND ALL THE FATALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED, BLACK AND LATIN ACTS INDIVIDUALS. AND TWO OF THE SEVEN FATAL INCIDENTS WERE DETERMINED TO BE SUICIDES LOOKING CLOSER AT THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. WE ALSO FOUND SOME DISPARITIES THERE. ALL THE OIS INCIDENTS OCCURRED IN CENTRAL EAST AND SOUTHEAST AUSTIN IN PARTICULAR, THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF AUSTIN, UM, IX WAS VERY OVERREPRESENTED DISTRICTS. YOU HAD FIVE OIS INCIDENTS AND APD BRING SECTOR HAD FOUR OIS INCIDENTS. SO IT WAS VERY DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED IN REGARDS TO AUSTIN. AND THIS SLIDE JUST GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW ON THE DISTRICT BREAKDOWN AND THE SECTOR BREAKDOWN AND HOW DISTRICT TWO AND BRANG SECTOR, BOTH IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF AUSTIN, UM, HAVE A GREATER CONCENTRATION OF THE OIS INCIDENTS REPORT ALSO LOOKED AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INVOLVED AND FOUND THAT LATIN X INDIVIDUALS WERE IMPACTED BY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS. SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ALL FIVE INCIDENTS THAT WERE MENTALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED ONLY ETHNIC MINORITIES. SO THREE INVOLVED, LATIN X MALES, ONE INVOLVED A LOT IN NEXT FEMALE AND ONE INVOLVED A BLACK MALE AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED WERE IN THEIR TWENTIES. THE REPORT ALSO LOOKS AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED AND FOUND THAT A MAJORITY WERE ALL WHITE MALE AND THREE OF THEM HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN AT LEAST ONE PRIOR OIS INCIDENT. AND ONE OF THEM HADN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN IT. UM, AND SHE HAD TWO PRIOR OYS INCIDENTS. UM, A MAJORITY OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED HAD SIX OR FEWER YEARS OF APD EXPERIENCE AND A MAJORITY ALSO HELD THE RANK OF OFFICER AND ONE HELD THE RANK OF SERGEANT. ANOTHER KEY FINDING OF THIS REPORT WAS THAT IT POINTED OUT THAT MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENTS WERE VERY PREVALENT IN THE OIS INCIDENTS. SO AT LEAST HALF OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS INVOLVED IN MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT AND TWO OF THE FIVE FATALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT. SO WHEN WE SAY MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT IN THIS TERM, WE'RE REFERRING TO SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THE TANGIBLE INDIVIDUALS, MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY, WHETHER IT WAS BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER THE INCIDENT, OR IF A FAMILY MEMBER HAD LATER SAID THAT THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED, UM, HAD A HISTORY OF MENTAL HEALTH. SO THE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENTS DOES NOT MEAN THAT MENTAL HEALTH DID NOT PLAY A PART IN THE INCIDENT. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND OUT OF THE 12 INCIDENTS, UM, INVOLVES THE PRESENCE OF WEAPONS. SO AN INDIVIDUAL HAD WAS ARMED, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WITH A FIREARM. IT ALSO MEAN WITH A KNIFE OR A PICS ACTS OF ANY TYPE OF WEAPON. AND, AND ONLY ONE OF THE 12 INCIDENTS THE OFFICER CHOOSE TO USE LESS LETHAL BEFORE USING THEIR FIREARM. AND IN ALL OTHER INCIDENTS, THEY CHOSE TO USE THE FIREARM BEFORE LESS EQUAL. SO USED IT FIRST. AND SO OUR OFFICE, IT'S DEFINITELY A PRIORITY FOR US THAT EVERY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS FROM APD SHOULD BE ANALYZED AND REVIEWED THOROUGHLY. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF US PUTTING OUT THIS REPORT PREVIOUSLY, THE LAST OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT THAT APD PUT OUT WAS LOOKING AT FROM 2013 TO 2018. SO LOOKING AT THAT WHOLE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, AND FOR [00:15:01] US, WE JUST WANTED TO DIVE DEEPER INTO EACH YEAR AND REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS AT THE HEART OF THESE INCIDENTS AND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. SO AT 2018, HAVING 12 INCIDENTS, THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER, UM, NORMAL, UM, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY NORMAL, BUT AVERAGE, UM, AVERAGE YEARS ARE MORE AROUND FIVE OR SIX INCIDENTS. AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY TO LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE DATA SAY, BUT LOOK FOR THESE PATTERNS. AND SO THE PATTERNS THAT WE FOUND WERE THAT THERE WAS A FAILURE TO USE DEESCALATION AND MANY OF THE INCIDENTS. THIS WAS A HUGE PATTERN, JUST LACK OF USE OF DEESCALATION TACTICS. AND THEN THAT LED TO FATALITIES ALSO A FAILURE TO USE, UH, THE, WHAT UNQUOTE LESS LETHAL FORCE OPTIONS AND ALL, BUT ONE INCIDENT. SO, AND ONLY ONE INCIDENT WAS LESS LETHAL FORCE USE BEFORE LETHAL FORCE. WHEN WE SAY LESS LIKE THE HORSE, WE ARE MEANING, UM, YOU KNOW, A TASER RUBBER BULLET, ANY KIND OF FORCE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE FIREARM. SO THAT WAS, THAT ONLY HAPPENED IN ONE INCIDENT. AND, UM, THEN FIRST THE PATTERN OF THE DISPARATE CO CONCENTRATION OF INCIDENTS, A MAJORITY AFFECTING PEOPLE OF COLOR, AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN AND OTHER AREAS OF AUSTIN THAT ARE MINORITY MAJORITY AREAS. AND SO FROM THESE PATTERNS, WE'VE PUT OUT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION HAS TO DO WITH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT ACCESS. SO WE RECOMMEND THAT APD INCREASE THE ACCESS THAT THE OPPOSITE POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS TO THIS TYPE OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DATA. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE MONITOR ALL INVESTIGATIONS, OFFICER MISCONDUCT, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, AS SOON AS THEY HAPPEN, SOMEONE FROM OUR OFFICE IS ALWAYS ON CALL. SO THAT AS SOON AS AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENT HAPPENS, OUR OFFICE IMMEDIATELY GOES TO THE SCENE. REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR OFFICE IMMEDIATELY GOES TO THE SCENE AND OBSERVES EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON, AND THEN WE'RE HAVE A VERY HANDS ON, UM, ROLE IN OVERSEEING THOSE THINGS INVESTIGATIONS. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PROVIDED UNPROMPTED ACCESS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, BALLISTICS REPORT, AUTOPSY REPORT, KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH OFFICERS WERE THERE, HOW MANY OFFICERS WERE THERE. SO THAT'S OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION JUST ABOUT THAT OUR OFFICE SHOULD HAVE MORE OR, UM, ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION. UM, SO WE CAN THOROUGHLY, THEY MONITOR THE INVESTIGATIONS. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS ABOUT REPORTING. SO WE RECOMMEND THAT APD PUBLISH ANNUAL OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING RECORDS. UM, SO FOR US, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT THESE INCIDENTS ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND I LOOKED INTO, UM, AND THOSE PATTERNS ARE ANALYZED. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT APD SHOULD PUBLISH ANNUAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THEY SHOULD PUBLISH OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORTS THAT SHOULD DEMONSTRATE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR REPORT. SO CHARACTER CHARACTERISTIC, DATA, DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, AND IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE STEPS TAKEN BY APD FOLLOWING THE INCIDENTS. AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE WHAT PREVENTATIVE MEASURES APD HAS IMPLEMENTED OR WILL IMPLEMENT AS A RESULT OF THE FINDINGS OF THE REPORT. SO UNDERSTANDING THAT APD SHOULD BE ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, WHEN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS HAPPEN, THESE, THESE INCIDENTS REPRESENT THE MOST POWER THAT, THAT AN OFFICER HAS OVER, OVER A CIVILIAN, RIGHT? UM, AND SO THESE SHOULD BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY AND THE APD SHOULD CONSTANTLY BE REVIEWING WHAT'S GOING ON AND ADAPTING TO BECOME BETTER. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REPORTING AND THAT APA SHOULD HAVE TO REPORT THAT, THAT THOSE FINDINGS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AS WELL AS TO COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, THE THIRD IS ABOUT TRAINING. AND SO WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION TO HAPPEN, UM, WITHIN APD. SO WE FOUND THAT OUT OF THE 12 INCIDENTS, 10 OF THE INCIDENTS ORIGINATED AS A CALL FOR SERVICE. THAT WOULD BE LIKE A NINE ONE ONE CALL OR SOMETIME WHEN, UH, WHEN, UM, APD IS DISPATCHED TO AN INCIDENT AND THEY DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T DONE PRIOR WORK ON THAT CASE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT A SWAT TEAM GOING OUT, OR IT'S NOT PART OF SOME TYPE OF INVESTIGATION. IT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE. IT'S A NINE 11 CALL. AND IN THOSE CASES, PITCH, REGULAR PATROL OFFICERS ARE DISPATCHED TO HANDLE THAT INCIDENT. AND WE FOUND THAT PATROL OFFICERS DON'T OFTEN RECEIVE ONGOING TRAINING AFTER THE POLICE ACADEMY. SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT PATROL OFFICERS RECEIVE CONSISTENT AND ONGOING TRAINING IN SPECIFICALLY, UH, DEESCALATION RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE, CRISIS INTERVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH SPECIFIC RESPONSE. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY [00:20:01] TALKING ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE. UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BASICALLY TO ENSURE THAT, UM, APDS MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE TRAINING THEIR POLICIES AND THEIR PROCEDURES ALIGN WITH NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND ADDRESS THE SHORTCOMINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE DEPARTMENT. SO I KNOW Y'ALL ARE AWARE, AND I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOUR LAST MEETING, UM, THE 2018 CITY AUDITOR REPORT, THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE PUT OUT, UM, ANALYZING, UM, APDS, UM, HOW APD RESPONDS TO CRISIS INTERVENTION, MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, AS WELL AS THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CALLS. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FINDINGS IN THAT REPORT. ONE OF THEM BEING THAT, LOOKING AT ALL THE COMPARISONS THAT HE IS, UM, APD HAS THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA RATE OF FATAL POLICE SHOOTINGS, UH, INVOLVING SOMEONE EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT REPORT. AND SO WE DIRECTLY CITE THAT REPORT SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT APA SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING SPECIFICALLY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE AND LASTLY PERSONNEL SAFETY AND WELLNESS. SO OUR OFFICE UNDERSTANDING THAT OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS ARE VERY TRAUMATIC FOR, UM, ANYBODY INVOLVED, THE PERSON, UM, INVOLVED INDIVIDUAL, THE COMMUNITY, UM, ANY WITNESSES AND THE OFFICER AS WELL, AND THAT TRAUMA CAN BECOME IMPACTED AND CAN IMPACT. I MEAN, I'M SORRY. IT CAN, IT BECOME, CAN BECOME COMPOUNDED AND IT CAN IMPACT THE WAY THAT THE OFFICER IN BALLS TO FUTURE INCIDENT INCIDENTS. AND SO OUR LAST RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENSURE THAT APDS POLICIES ALIGN WITH BEST PRACTICE FOR SAFETY AND WELLNESS FOR THEIR OWN OFFICERS AS WELL, AND MENTAL HEALTH, UM, RESOURCES FOR THEIR OWN OFFICES. SO THAT'S VERY HIGH LEVEL, THE, UM, THE LYS REPORT AND, UM, WELL, CERTAINLY HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY UPDATES. UM, AND I WON'T GET TOO, TOO IN THE WEEDS ON THIS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER IT. UM, AND SO JUNE, JULY, I HAVE, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE WAS A, A BIG DAY FOR A POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND POLICE REFORM, UH, SPECIFICALLY RESOLUTIONS COMING FROM CITY COUNCIL. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO OUTLINE WHAT THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE AND JUST HAVE THIS FOR ANYBODY WHO, TO WHOM THESE, UM, THIS BREAKDOWN MAY BE USEFUL, UH, GOING FORWARD TO REFER TO, UH, WE HAVE RESOLUTION 50, WHICH ADOPTS A ZERO DISPARITY IN POLICING GOALS OR LOSS IN POLICE DEPARTMENT. THESE GOALS CAME OUT OF OUR, OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT THAT WE PUT OUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, RESOLUTION 95 PROHIBITS AND OR RESTRICTS THE USE OF VARIOUS, UH, USE OF FORCE, VARIOUS WEAPONS, UH, VARIOUS PRACTICES AT APD. SO FOR EXAMPLE, TEAR GAS, UM, PURPOSE, TEAR GAS, YOU KNOW, IN A CHOKE HOLD AND THEN RESTRICTS, UM, CERTAIN USES OF DEADLY FORCE, TASERS, RUBBER BULLETS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, IT ALSO, THIS RESOLUTION ALSO OF NOTE, UM, REQUIRES THAT USE OF FORCE TRAINING INVOLVE DEESCALATION. SO THAT'S ALSO HUGE TO OUR RECOMMENDATION CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR OFFICE FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT DEESCALATION, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THEIR COMMISSION DOES AS WELL. UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT RESOLUTION AND THEN RESOLUTION 96 IS THE BUDGET RESOLUTION. SO BE COUNCIL DIRECTOR, THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING FORWARD A BUDGET THAT BASICALLY EXPLORERS, REALLOCATING, SOME POSITIONS AND ROLES FROM APD AND TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR INTO OUTSIDE ENTITIES. AND IT ALSO LOOKS AT FUNDING AND STAFFING, INCREASING FUNDING AND STAFFING FOR MENTAL HEALTH FIRST RESPONSE SPECIFICALLY. AND SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS OF NOTE TO LOOK OUT FOR AS WE INTEREST BUDGET CYCLE, UM, THE CITY MANAGERS PRESENT FIRST, HE WILL PRESENT HIS FIRST DRAFT OF A BUDGET TO CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY. AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE THIS DIRECTION HAS GONE AND HOW IT WILL ACTUALLY LOOK IN THE BUDGET. AND THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, MORE COMMUNITY PRESSURE OR FOR EXPERTISE, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE THEY ALL HAVE ON, UM, ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. SO I DID JUST WANT TO GO OVER THAT. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE CITY MANAGER HAS PUT OUT A MEMO ON RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY. AND SO THAT CREATES, IT CREATES ADVISORY WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE LOOKING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS A REIMAGINED PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM AND HOW DO WE GET THERE FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR AUSTIN. AND SO THAT WILL BE ONGOING. IT'S A VERY, VERY BIG PROJECT. UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT'S COMING, THE COMMISSIONS WILL BE ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMISSIONS AND ENSURING THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND EVERYTHING ARE, UM, [00:25:01] INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. AND THERE'LL BE AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS. AND THERE'LL BE PUBLIC DASHBOARDS TO TRACK THE PROGRESS. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS, SINCE IT IS SUCH A HUGE INITIATIVE. UH, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE PUT OUT RESOLUTIONS. I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU ALL PUT OUT A RESOLUTION, UM, AT YOUR LAST MEETING, UM, REGARDING, UM, POLICE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. AND, UM, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION FROM THE RESOLUTION, FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH, UM, OUR OFFICE AND SAYING THAT WHEN OUR OFFICE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION THAT AN INCIDENT NEEDS TO BE, UM, INVESTIGATED THAT ISN'T AUTOMATICALLY INVESTIGATED. AND SO THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WELL. UH, AND MANY OF THE OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE AND DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS HAVE PUT FORTH RESOLUTIONS. AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSIONS EXISTS AS A PLACE FOR THAT COMMUNITY PRESSURE TO BE DIRECTLY HURT BY THE CITY. AND SO JUST KNOWING THAT THE CITY IS, HAS A VERY KEEN EYE ON WHAT THE COMMISSIONS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION. SO ALL OF THAT IS, UM, I FEEL IT WAS A LOT, RIGHT. SO WE JUST SAID A LOT WAS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, HOW THAT WILL IMPACT OUR OFFICE AS WELL AS OUR MOST RECENT REPORT. AND SO I WANT TO STOP THERE AND PAUSE AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. AND THEN, UM, ONCE WE TALK ABOUT QUESTIONS, WE CAN OPEN IT UP LARGER. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE US HERE, BUT LET'S OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL. HI, THIS IS CONDITIONER ORLOWSKI OKAY. YES. UM, I HAD TALKED WITH A CITIZEN FROM THE ADVISORY REVIEW PANEL AND, UM, SHE WOULD LIKE, SHE WOULD LIKE, UH, SHE WOULD LIKE, UH, YOUR, UM, OFFICE TO FOCUS ON, UH, MORE THAN MENTAL HEALTH, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DISABILITIES, JUST MENTAL HEALTH WHO ARE BEING UNDERSERVED, UM, LIKE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING, UM, AN OFFICER WHO COMES TO THE SCENE ISN'T NECESSARILY FLUENT IN ASL AND THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM. THEY CAN'T PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE. THAT'S A SHORTCOMING. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERSON IS SAYING AND VICE VERSA. YES, DEFINITELY. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR DEAF COMMUNITY. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT THE SPECIFIC RESEARCH DOESN'T SPEAK TO. UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. UM, WE'LL TO DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, AS I SAID, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON BUILDING OUT THE RESEARCH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT RESEARCH RIGHT NOW, WE'RE USING A LOT OF INTERNS. AND SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T TURNED IT ON SPECIFICALLY MENTAL HEALTH, UM, AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, UM, DOING RESEARCH ON APD RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. BUT WE DEFINITELY DO REALIZE THAT'S ONLY ONE, ONE PART OF THE STUDY. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT. AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING WITH US OTHER CITIES, UM, THAT YOU ALL HAVE. UM, AND, AND SO WE CAN SET UP THAT CONVERSATION ENSURE THAT, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. UM, SHE ALSO WANTED TO SEE OTHER TYPES OF DECISIONS IN THE RESEARCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER BROOKS. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. MY FIRST QUESTION DEALS WITH THE HIRING OFFICERS. UM, WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR, UM, PSYCHOLOGICAL, UM, ASSESSMENTS FOR INCOMING OFFICERS IS A CITY REQUIRED TO PERFORM PSYCHOLOGICALS ON PROSPECTIVE OFFICERS OR CANDIDATES? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. [00:30:03] UM, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT. UM, THAT FALLS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, BUT I, I DO KNOW THAT THEY DO THESE, THOSE KINDS OF ASSESSMENTS, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT THOSE ENTAIL. UM, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A QUESTION FOR APD, BUT WE CAN HELP WITH, UM, FINDING THE ANSWER TO THAT AND GETTING BACK TO YOU OR CONNECTING YOU WITH THE FOLKS AT MPD OVER HIRING THAT WILL HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. SO I MADE A NOTE OF IT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. BROOKS IN THE CITY. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO PASS ON THE SECOND ONE FOR RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. TARA HAS A QUESTION. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR RESPONSE DURING THE YEAR OF 2018? SO YOU EXPLAINED THAT AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2018. SO I'M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU SHARED WITH APD ABOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM 2018 TO NOW? CAUSE THAT'S FROM TWO YEARS AGO, SO HAVE THEY SEEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR HAVE THEY NOT MADE PROGRESS WITH THAT? YES. GREAT QUESTION. SO THE REASON THAT WE STARTED WITH 28, SO THIS 2018 REPORT AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY CAME OUT LAST MONTH AND WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON 2018 FIRST BECAUSE THAT YEAR HAD SO MANY OIS OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS. SO WE REALLY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT ARE THE PATTERNS HERE? AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT ANALYSIS MOVING FORWARD FOR EACH YEAR. SO 2019 WILL BE NEXT. UM, SO, SO THE REASON IT'S 2018 IS BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT APD IS DATA FROM 2018, BUT THAT REPORT CAME OUT THIS YEAR AND ACTUALLY IT WAS LAST MONTH. UM, SO WE DID A LIVE TO, WE SENT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE. SO THE, UM, APD HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE HAS NOT RESPONDED YET TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IT DID JUST COME OUT LAST MONTH. SO, UM, THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THAT, IF THAT CLARIFIES THAT MACHINE. SO DO YOU HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THEM, FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM? UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DEADLINE. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST THE REPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDED, I GUESS AN UPDATE, UM, WITHIN A FEW WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS THEY FEEL LIKE WOULD FIT IN, OR THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION ON, BUT THAT'S A PLACE WHERE, UM, COMMUNITY PRESSURE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL. UM, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT A DEADLINE ON IT. UM, BUT IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO EXPECT MOVEMENT ON THEM. WE DO EXPECT RECOGNITION OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT RESONATE WITH YOU ALL OR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE, UM, THE COMMUNITY CAN ALSO HELP US WITH THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE FIRST, UM, AND ASKING ANY PD TO DO THAT AS WELL? WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STRICT DEADLINE ON RESPONDING THOUGH. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I HAVE MY HAND RAISED. YEAH, MINE WAS TOO. I, YOU CAN GO HERE. IT'S LIKE, I DON'T CARE. YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE OPPOSITE POLICE OVERSIGHT SHARING OR WHAT THE CHANGES ARE BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEN Y'ALL WERE THE OFFICE OF THE POLICE MONITOR, BECAUSE SO FAR, LIKE I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE ACCESS TO MORE, UH, MORE OF THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN INVESTIGATE THAT, UH, MORE, BUT I THINK THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. UM, AND SO I WAS HOPING THAT Y'ALL COULD SHARE THAT. AND I ALSO HAVE ONE OTHER LITTLE QUESTION, SO, OKAY. YEAH, DEFINITELY. UM, SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS. THERE'S SEVERAL LAYERS. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE ABLE TO PUBLISH MUCH MORE INFORMATION AND MAKE MUCH MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE COUPLER. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE SEND [00:35:01] HER, UM, FORMAL NOTICES OF COMPLAINT, UM, TO THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT ABLE TO PUT THAT INFORMATION, THAT INFORMATION LIVES ON IT, WEBSITE, UM, REDACTED TO PROTECT PRIVACY OF TOOLS. AND WHEN DISCIPLINE COMES BACK, WHEN OFFICERS ARE DISCIPLINED TO THE LEVEL OF A SUSPENSION OF A DAY OR MORE, WE ARE ABLE TO PUBLISH THAT INFORMATION. AND WE'RE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE, THIS OFFICER WAS RECEIVED THIS LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE FOR THIS OFFENSE. AND SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION LIVES ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR, UM, OUR DISCIPLINE AND OUR LIKE DISCIPLINE COMPLAINT DOCUMENTATION ON OUR WEBSITE. SO THAT'S ONE BIG THING. WE'RE JUST ABLE TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND OTHER IS THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE COMPLAINTS. SO PREVIOUSLY WITH OFFICE OF POLICE MONITOR, IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO FILE A COMPLAINT, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A VERY KIND OF COMPLICATED PROCESS. THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE THEIR COMPLAINT NOTARIZE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THERE WERE A LOT OF BARRIERS. NOW WE TAKE COMPLAINTS, UM, OVER THE PHONE BY EMAIL, UM, ON IN PERSON STILL, UM, NOT DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT NORMALLY IN PERSON IN OUR OFFICE. UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM AND PEOPLE CAN REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN CONTACTING US. SO THAT'S A HUGE THING. SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE SHARING THEIR NAME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME FORWARD, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT THEY WANT TO LET US KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED AND THEY WANT IT TO BE LOOKED INTO ANONYMOUSLY. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE THING THAT IS NEW, THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE MONITOR COULDN'T DO, BUT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO, WE CAN TAKE THESE COMPLAINTS OVER ONLINE AND PEOPLE CAN BE ANONYMOUS. UM, SO IT'S JUST MUCH EASIER TO FILE A COMPLAINT TO CONTACT OUR OFFICE. AND WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY, POWER, UM, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THOSE ARE TWO, TWO OF THE BIGGEST THINGS. THIS IS COMMISSIONER OR LASKY. I DO FEEL THAT YOUR DATA COLLECTION PROCESS SHOULD INCLUDE NOT JUST A MENTAL HEALTH, BUT I DO FEEL IT SHOULD INCLUDE DISABILITY AND, UM, TYPE DISABILITY. YEAH, I FEEL YOU SHOULD. I FEEL YOU SHOULD BREAK THAT OUT FOR A COMPLETE, A STATISTICAL PORTRAIT, UH, THAT WILL HELP, UM, EXPLAIN TO, UH, THE CITY, WHAT IS GOING ON. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. I AGREE WITH YOU. AND I, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER GET'S GETTING THAT, ADDED THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LAST MEETING, AS I WAS WATCHING ABOUT, UM, PD TO GATHER THAT DATA BECAUSE CURRENTLY, UM, FOR TRANSPARENCY TO Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO OUR ANALYSIS, WE ARE USING APDS DATA. SO OUR ANALYSIS IS REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS THE DATA THAT WE ARE PROVIDED, AND WE DO OUR BEST JOB WITH THE DATA THAT WE'RE PROVIDED, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT TO US AND DEFINITELY TO MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IN A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT APDS DATA IS JUST MORE BROKEN DOWN, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, IT ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE ACCURATE AND FOR US TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT INITIATIVES TOWARDS, UM, DESEGREGATING THAT DATA. UM, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR APD. UM, SO APD WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE WE USE THEIR DATA TO DO THE, WE DON'T COLLECT IT OURSELVES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER TRAIL, YOU HAD A QUESTION. YES. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING. UM, BUT I GUESS I WANT TO US, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING. SO FORGIVE ME AND INDULGE ME FOR A MOMENT. AS I SAY, THAT YOU ARE ONE OF MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO HAS COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WITHOUT REALLY BRINGING UP OR HIGHLIGHTING ISSUES RELATED TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WITHOUT PULLING OUT THAT ISSUE AND DISCUSSING IT WHEN THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE. SO IT AGAIN, SEEMS THAT EQUITY DOESN'T INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. UM, I, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IS PICKING UP ON THESE THINGS AND MAKING SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS, WHERE, WHERE THAT'S APPARENT AND WHERE YOU COULD ADDRESS IT, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I THINK FOR ME, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN RESPONSE TO ME TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS HOW OUR OFFICE LOOKS AT DISABILITY ISSUES. THIS IS WHAT WE DO TO ADVOCATE FOR DISABILITY ISSUES. THESE ARE THE ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN AN INVESTIGATING OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING. YOU'VE EXCLUSIVELY TALKED FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD [00:40:01] ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AS AN AREA THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU EXPRESSING ANY CONCERN ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY. SO I GUESS, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO SORT OF STRUCTURALLY GET AT THAT IS, AND I'M LOOKING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIND THE MISSION STATEMENT. I KNOW YOU, I SEE WHAT YOU DO, YOU INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS, BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT TELLS ME WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS. SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE VALUING? WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUSHER OR ALLOWS SKI RAISES THAT IF YOU WOULD SAY SOMETHING IN YOUR STATISTICS AND YOUR REPORTING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY, THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT THOSE SHOES AND PERHAPS HAVE A SHOW THAT'S PART OF YOUR GOAL IS TO LOOK AT IMPACTS ON MAYBE ETHNIC GROUPS OR SOME RANGE OF FOLKS. UM, BUT SO THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A BIG PICTURE THING, BUT I GUESS IF WE COULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE A STATED PURPOSE AND IF MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY FOR US TO BEND THAT STATED PURPOSE, IF IT TALKS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, BUT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. AND I'LL JUST FINALLY ADD THAT. AND I DON'T END UP COMMISSIONER GET SIX, SHAKING HER HEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, A COP WITH DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE PAST AND THEY SENT THE MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE TO TALK TO US. AND HE HAD DISABILITY LODGE ON HER MENTAL HEALTH. AND WE EXPRESSED AS A COMMITTEE CONCERNS FOR THAT, THAT IS NOT A SUBSET HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH IS INVOLVED IN DISABILITY AND THEIR STANDALONE MENTAL HEALTH THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISABILITY. UM, SO THEY'RE RELATED, THEY'RE INTERACTING, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME. AND DISABILITY DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THAT. I HAVE A KID THAT HAD ELECTRICAL DISABILITIES. HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. UM, SO ANYWAY, SO PURPOSE HOW WE BETTER PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN RELATION TO POLICE ARE ADDRESSED FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WHICH I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT WITH PREVIOUS POLICE PEOPLE, MY OWN SON HAD INVOLVEMENT WITH THE POLICE RESPONDING TO OUR HOME DISABILITY. SO FOR INSTANCE, HE MIGHT ADMIT BECAUSE HE HAS TAKES OFF LIKE MANY CHILDREN WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, NOT ANYMORE, THANKFULLY, BUT HE USED TO. AND SO ONE TIME THE POLICE WERE RESPONDING BECAUSE GRANDMA COULDN'T FIND HIM. AND THEY, UH, THAT HE WENT TO THE, THE, THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, A GROUP OF ARMED POLICE OFFICERS WERE RESPONDING. LUCKILY IT WAS BROAD DAYLIGHT. HE WAS IN THE BACKYARD HANGING OUT IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD. UM, NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHY THAT WOULDN'T BE A THING YOU JUST DO. UM, AND THEY YELLED FOR HIM TO STOP AND HE JUST WAS RUNNING, HE KEPT RUNNING, HE DIDN'T DO ANY STOPPING. HE DID NOT RESPOND TO POLICE. AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE WITH AUTISM THAT WAS SHOT WHEN HE WAS TOLD TO STOP. AND DIDN'T, I KNOW THAT'S HAPPENED IN CITY, IN AUSTIN AND IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL. SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN FEAR THAT THE POLICE WILL RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT AT OUR HOME AND BE INTERACTING WITH HIM AND HE WON'T RESPOND APPROPRIATELY AND COULD DIE. SO, UM, TO ME, LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OFFICER INVOLVED COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE LACK OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, IN ADDITION TO COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES, LIKE A PERSON WHO'S DEAF THAT COMMISSIONER WILL ASK YOU RAISE A PERSON WHO IS BLIND, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTELLECTUALLY DISABILITY DISABLED, OR, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE SLOW RESPONSE TIME, THAT KIND OF THING. LONG-WINDED THANK YOU. SO SORRY. I WANT TO THINK SHE'S JUST SHARING THE PERSPECTIVE AND, UM, I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE IT BACK. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, OUR DIRECTOR CERTAINLY WELCOMED LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. AND SO I WILL TAKE THIS BACK. I CAN COMMIT TO TAKING IT BACK AND TO CHECKING IN BOTH ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DATA WE DO HAVE THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU REGARDING THE COMPLAINTS. UM, SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AND I WILL CHECK, UM, WELL, WE CAN PULL OUT SO THAT TO GIVE YOU ALL A BETTER PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE RECEIVING THOSE KINDS OF COMPLAINTS? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE KINDS OF COMPLAINTS, UM, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING PEOPLE DISABILITIES [00:45:01] AND SEEING HOW WE CAN PULL IT OUT OR PARSE IT OUT? UM, SO I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT AS WELL AS I THINK IT WOULD BE. I MEAN, IF YOU ALL THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, TO HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION, UM, WITH OUR, OUR LEADERSHIP ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, MORE INTO THE FABRIC OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. CAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT CURRENTLY WE'VE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH. UM, THAT HAS MOSTLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST YEAR, WELL, THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE STARTED ON, UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE NEED IS MUCH GREATER. AND SO IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR PRIORITIES THAT WE CAN START WITH, YOU ALL CERTAINLY KNOW MORE THAN WE DO AND STILL WE WOULD WANT TO LISTEN TO Y'ALLS EXPERTISE. AND SO FOR ME, IT'S A CONTINUING CONVERSATION. UM, AND I HOPE THAT THAT, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF THE BEST WAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY COME BACK WITH UPDATES AND I CAN COMMUNICATE WITH DAVID AFTER I'VE TALKED WITH OUR OFFICE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN WRITING. UM, BUT THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE, UM, MEETINGS. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S US COMING TO Y'ALLS COMMISSION AGAIN, OR EVEN SETTING UP SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION. UH, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF IT LATER ON, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO US TO UNDERSTAND, UM, BOTH THE LIVED EXPERIENCE AND THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU'LL HAVE AS WELL, WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE. SO THANKS IS COMMISSIONER OR, UM, MY, THE CITIZEN, THE CITIZEN WHO HAD CONTACTED ME, WANTED YOUR OFFICE AND TO HAVE A FORUM ON DISABILITY AND POLICING, NOT JUST MENTAL HEALTH, BUT UH, DISABILITY, I AND POLICING. SHE ALSO WANTED THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO BE INVOLVED TOO. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. UM, I HAD ALREADY EMAILED, UH, UH, DAVID AND I CC LEE ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. UM, BUT I, SHE PROACTIVELY ASKED ABOUT THAT. UM, AND SHE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL, WAS NOT RESOLVED. UM, START THE BALL ROLLING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES. UH, CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF DISABILITIES IN THE AUSTIN AREA AND THEY COULD COME AND TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES. ALRIGHT, MR. LASKY, UH, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, MR. LEVY. UH, SO I HAVE QUESTION, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. BROOKS. YES. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BROOKS, UM, TYPE OF DATA CAPTURES MY POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY MAKE CONTACT WITH ANY CITIZEN TO HAVE DATA'S CAPTURED THAT'S FIRST PART OF MY FIRST. UM, I CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT FOR YOU. I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE IT'S WELL ACTUALLY I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ON IT. I WILL, I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU FOR SURE. ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT DATA ARE THEY REQUIRED TO KEEP? I KNOW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DOCUMENT, UH, RACE AND ETHNICITY, GENDER. UM, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THERE'S MUCH MORE BEYOND THAT, BUT I'LL GET YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER, BUT NOTHING IN TERMS OF DISABILITY AS YOU, THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT WE KNOW OF YET, BUT I KNOW OF HIM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT. AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. THE FIRST IS, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU HAVE THE OPPOSITE SHOOTING, YOU HAVE A COMPARISON AVAILABLE FOR HOW THAT COMPARES TO ARTS. UM, CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CITIES, THAT'S A LOT OF ECONOMICS LOOKING AT THE OTHERS, THOSE DISPARITIES, IF THERE'S ANY ETHNIC OR RACIAL DISPARITIES OR PARODIES. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, IS IT WHAT'S READING OR THIS OFFICER'S RECEIVE, THEY HAVE. UM, AND THEN I GUESS [00:50:03] THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN QUESTIONS I THINK I HAVE. UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THE FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, COMPARING THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE OAS INCIDENTS COMPARED TO OVERALL THE GENERAL MAKEUP AT APD, CORRECT TO SEE THE DESPAIR APD AND THE CITY AND THE, UM, WE DIDN'T DO THAT FOR THIS REPORT. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA SO I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AS WELL. UM, SORRY, I'M JUST WRITING THAT DOWN. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT. UM, AND THEN ABOUT ONGOING TRAINING. UM, AGAIN, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW BECAUSE IT'S, I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AROUND APD TRAINING TO INVITE SOMEONE FROM AN APD WHO WILL HAVE BETTER ANSWERS AND WE'LL HAVE DECISION-MAKING OVER IT, BUT I CAN, I CAN TRY TO FIND THAT INFORMATION AS WELL. UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT TURNING BOMBS. I'M THINKING MORE IN TERMS OF MAKING IT A FUTURE RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM YOUR OFFICE AND THOSE OFFICERS YOU HAVE PULLED YOUR GUN AND SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENT. THERE SHOULD BE SOME TRAINING AROUND THAT EVENT. I KNOW IN MY FIELD, ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS, SOMEBODY HAS A TREATMENT VALUE, NO MATTER HOW SCARY IT SEEMS AND PUT NECESSARILY QUOTES THERE. I WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT THAT AS A TREATMENT. SO I THINK AT LEAST LOOKING AT EVERY SHOOTING AS A POLICE, WELL, IT CHANGES THE PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN ALSO JUST KIND OF, AS A QUICK ASIDE, WHILE I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT OUR RALLIES, WE ALSO ASKED THEM, IS THERE A FUTURE PART OF YOUR REPORTING PROCESS? JUST THE USE OF FORCE. SO NOT JUST SHOOTING, BUT UH, YOU KNOW, RUBBER BULLETS AND TASERS. CAUSE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH FOLKS THAT I WORK WITH, MOST OF THEIR POLICE CONTACT IS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IS YOU USUALLY THEY GET TASED OR SOMETHING, OR IT'S NOT THE BEST LEADER. SO THAT WAS GOOD INFORMATION TO INCLUDE ASANA. YEAH, CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY. UM, AND I KNOW THAT OUR DIRECTOR SPECIFICALLY IS VERY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF HER NEXT BIG PRIORITIES IS AROUND DEESCALATION. AND SO THAT REALLY IS LOOKING AT USE OF FORCE AND ITS TOTALITY. SO WE TALK ABOUT DEESCALATION AS IT RELATES TO THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING AND THE FACT THAT DEESCALATION WASN'T USED, UM, THAT WE FOUND, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE PATTERNS THAT WE FOUND, BUT THAT ALSO APPLIES MORE GENERALLY TO YOUR SUPPORTERS. AND SO AS THEY MOVE FORWARD, UM, WE WILL, THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IS NOT DEESCALATION. AND SO, UM, YEAH, CERTAINLY I AGREE. IT SHOULD INCLUDE A USE OF FORCE, NOT JUST, UM, OAS AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S UM, A PRIORITY OF OUR DIRECTOR. I THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS MARK? WE LET THEM GO. THIS IS A CONVENTION. I JUST, I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAD CHANGED AND THE OFFICE OF THE MONITOR. AND NOW, BECAUSE I, I CALL THAT APD SUPPOSED TO PREPARE THAT DATA. AND I REMEMBER ACTUALLY CALLING YOUR FAMILY ABOUT THAT, LIKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IT'S BEEN YEARS IT'S LIKE, WHERE IS THIS STUFF? YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION? AND HE'S LIKE, OH, IT'S ON MY TABLE. UM, AND OF COURSE IT NEVER CAME OUT. UH, AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE ALREADY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE, UH, OFFICE OF THE POLICE MONITOR DID. UM, AND I KNOW, I KNOW ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I, I WAS DOING A HACKATHON PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT ACTUALLY ADOPTED IN HOW YOU CHANGE THE WAY YOU DO COMPLAINTS, COMPLAINTS ABOUT POLICE. BUT, UM, WE DID OUR PROJECT BASED OFF OF THAT, BUT WE LOOKED AT THE REPORT FROM THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THEN HAD, OKAY, THESE ARE THE, UH, THIS IS KIND OF DISCIPLINARY, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GAVE TO ABD. THIS IS HOW MANY WE GOT A RESPONSE FOR. THIS IS HOW MANY THEY EXCEPTED, AND THIS IS HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING SO THAT I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT EXISTED BEFORE THE CHANGE TO OFFICE OF POLICE, UM, OVERSIGHT. AND [00:55:01] SO I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE WHILE THERE MIGHT BE MORE DATA AT WORK, LIKE HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET EVEN MORE DATA, RIGHT. AND WE CAN PUSH FOR, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO BE COLLECTED AND SHARED. I THINK THAT, AND TELL ME IF THIS IS ACCURATE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE IS ANY MORE POWER TO, UH, HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ALL MAKE OF FOR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS FOR WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE DOING, UM, TO HAVE THAT STICK OR TO HAVE, UH, THE POLICE AGREE WITH YOU, YOU KNOW, MANLY AGREE WITH YOU AND, AND TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS STILL KIND OF THE SAME. SO IT'S LIKE, WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE HAVE ACCESS TO MORE INFORMATION, BUT THEY STILL DO WHAT THEY WANT. THAT'S WHAT IT IS THAT ACCURATE. I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, COMMENDATIONS THAT WE PUT FORTH IT IS CORRECT THAT THAT APD DOES NOT BUY ANY TYPE OF WORD TO ADOPT ON RECOMMENDATION, A HUGE PLACE WHERE OVERSIGHT, UM, STILL REALLY NEEDS THAT REPRESSION. AND SO WEREN'T TO TODAY, YOU KNOW, MORE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN I NEED TO WORK WITH COMMUNITIES, PD ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE, UM, THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ADOPT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT THEM OUT, WE CAN TRACK THEM AND WE CAN COME BACK AND TALK TO THEM. WE CAN SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AT THE END OF THE DAY. THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT. THAT'S STILL CORRECT. YEAH. THANKS. COMMISSIONER BIRD HAD A COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL BE THE LAST ONE. SO, OKAY. SO NOW WITH THE BLACK LIVES MATTER, GOING ON AROUND US, I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR POLICE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION PLAN IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT. SO OUR FIRST, OUR FIRST REPORT WAS ABOUT RACIAL PROFILING SPECIFICALLY. UM, APD IS RACIAL PROFILING, UM, RACIAL DISPARITIES IN POLICING. AND SO THAT'S ALWAYS, DEFINITELY BEEN A PRIORITY FOR OUR OFFICE AND FOR OUR DIRECTOR IS UNDERSTANDING, UM, REALLY PROVIDING THAT DATA TO COMMUNITY, THAT VALIDATES COMMUNITY SENTIMENT THAT SAYS THAT YES, THERE IS DESPERATE IMPACT IN POLICING AND AUSTIN. THIS IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, UM, YOU CAN FIND THAT REPORT ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, TALKS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RACIAL BREAKDOWNS OF WHO WAS ARRESTED, WHO IS PULLED OVER, WHO WAS ARRESTED AND WHAT AREAS OF TOWN ARE, PEOPLE PROVIDED MORE WARNINGS. AND IN WHAT AREAS OF TOWN ARE PEOPLE PROVIDED, ARE PEOPLE MORE LIKELY TO BE CITED OR ARRESTED? AND WE DEFINITELY FOUND DISCREPANCY AND DISPARITY THERE. AND SO THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CORE OF OUR WORK, UM, OUT OF THE, HE CAME DIRECTLY OUT OF THOSE HOURS OF TESTIMONY THAT PEOPLE CAME TO TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDED TESTIMONY FOR MANY, MANY HOURS. AND THIS IS THE, WHAT CITY COUNCIL HAS COME. AND SO A LOT OF WHAT OUR OFFICE WILL BE DOING IN THE COMING MONTHS COMES FROM THOSE RESOLUTIONS. UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON ONE SMALL EXAMPLE IS WORKING ON ORDERS WHEN IT COMES, THAT WAS ONE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT OUR OFFICE WILL HAVE A HAND IN. UH, AND THE CITY OVERALL WILL BE ENGAGING IN THIS RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY PROCESS. THAT'S LIKE THE GENERAL CITY OF AUSTIN LED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. UM, AND OUR OFFICE SPECIFICALLY WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR PUSH FOR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE FEEL WILL HELP TO ADDRESS, UM, THE RACIAL DISPARITY AND POLICING IN AUSTIN. AND WE HAVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT AND TO THE COMMISSIONER GETS EXPLAINED, APD CAME BACK WITH A RESPONSE, AND NOW WE ARE TAKING THAT RESPONSE AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONES HAVE THEY ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AND WHICH ONES DO WE STILL NEED TO PUT MORE PRESSURE ON THEM TO IMPLEMENT IT? BECAUSE IT'S, FOR US ALL THE, [01:00:02] THINK WE LOST MAYA MAYA IMMEDIATE NOW. SORRY, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW. OKAY. SORRY. I WAS HAVING INTERNET ISSUES CUT OUT AT THE END, BUT LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ME TO REPEAT ANYTHING. NO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU LADIES FOR PRESENTING TODAY. LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING EACH CONTACT WITH YOU IN YOUR OFFICE. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, MOVING ON, MOVING ON OUR AGENDA, UH, ITEM T WAY, [2A. NEW BUSINESS: Discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution from June 12, 2020 regular meeting that local pandemic prevention efforts thoroughly include, affirm and support the rights and needs of people with disabilities – Commissioner Orlowski and full committee;] UH, RESOLUTION THE RESOLUTION WE STARTED AT THE END OF LAST MEETING, UH, WHICH WAS THE, UH, AND THEN MAKE LACK OF A BETTER WORD ENDEMIC RESOLUTION, UM, LAST MONTH, UH, TO BE WINDOWS OPEN HERE ON MY DESKTOP. SORRY THIS, IT WAS COMMISSIONER LASKEY AND THE FULL COMMITTEE. UH, OKAY. I THINK THIS WAS THE, UH, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE VENDORS. SORRY, RELATED TO WHAT TWO RENTERS. YES. YES. THIS WAS THE RESOLUTION. WE STARTED A NEW KIND OF, UH, TAPPED OUT AND WENT OUT OF TIME, RIGHT? YEAH. RESOLUTION. YEAH. OH, DO YOU ME TO READ IT? UH, THIS IS DAVID AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF THE THREE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN A, B AND C. YES. THIS IS, UH, THIS WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION IS TITLED, UH, FINANCIAL SUFFICIENT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? MAYBE DO WE NEED TO READ IT SINCE WE ALL GOT COPIES OF IT? CAN WE JUST REFERENCE IT? I GUESS IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE IT READ, UH, THEY COULD REQUEST THAT, BUT LIKE I SAY, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY'S GOT A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION. OKAY. YOU CAN OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. THIS IS JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. SO THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE VOTED ON IMPROVING WITH THE GRAMMATICAL EDITS. SO ALL WE'RE DISCUSSING IS WHAT GRAMMATICAL EDITS WE NEED TO MAKE BECAUSE THE THREE THAT WERE ATTACHED TO THE MEETING AGENDA ARE THE RESOLUTION REGARDING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN COVID TO HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION AND THE RECENT GENDER EQUITY RESOLUTION. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA. RIGHT? WELL, THE RIGHTS OF GENDER AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS WERE ALREADY PASSED BY BOTH THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONS AND, UM, THE, UH, THE JOINT INCLUSION COMMISSION. THEY DON'T NEED TO BE, WE'RE JUST SAYING, HEY, UH, WE ALSO, I JUST, WE ALSO APPROVED THEM. THEY WERE SIGNED ALSO BRIARS. THEY WERE ALREADY SIGNED BY THEIR EYE, UH, COMMISSION, UM, STAFF LIAISON. YEAH. AND CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. UH, YOU CAN, UH, EMILY, YOU ARE CORRECT THE RENTERS, UH, THE RESOLUTION REGARDING MONEY FOR RENTERS THAT PASSED AS RED E OR IT PASSED WITH NO CHANGE TO CONTENT, JUST CORRECTION IN FORMATTING AND GRAMMATICS. AND SO THAT ONE ACTUALLY IS ALREADY, UH, THAT ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED AND APPROVED, UM, THE DESPERATE PERSON WITH DISABILITIES DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE TWO WINES PASSED BY THE OTHER, UH, THE, UH, UM, UM, [01:05:01] WOMEN'S COMMISSION AS A HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, UH, AND, UH, UH, THE, UH, DISCUSSION AS TO, UM, SUPPORT OR ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, OF THOSE. BUT YEAH, THE RENTERS, UH, THE WRITERS ONE DOES NOT DATE TO COME UP THAT WAS PASSED, UH, WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEIR GRAMMATICAL AND FORMATTING ERRORS WOULD BE, UH, ROTATIONS WOULD BE MADE. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M NOT SEEING THEN IS EMAILS. YEAH. THAT WOULD HAVE GONE OUT, UH, ACTUALLY PRIOR TO LAST, UH, UH, LAST MONTH MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT OUT AGAIN, THAT WAS IN EVERYBODY'S, UH, BOX FROM THE JUNE 12TH MEETING. I, THIS IS MY TRACK. I ACCESSED IT FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES PAGE WHERE IT HAS THE AGENDA POSTED AS WELL AS THE THREE RESUME. YES. THEY WERE ALSO UPLOADED TO THE, UH, AS SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. SO LET'S OPEN THE FLOOR, LET'S OPEN THE FLOOR THEN TO DISCUSS ON THE PANDEMIC ONE. HI, THIS IS EMILY SHAGGY, AND I HAD A FEW, UM, ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR CHANGES I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THIS IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT THING TO WORK ON SO FULLY IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK WE CAN JUST STRENGTHEN IT WITH SOME OF THESE CHANGES. UM, SO IN THE FIRST SENTENCE, WHEREAS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A LARGE PART OF THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY AND PRESENT. UM, I BELIEVE SAYING PAST AND PRESENT WOULD BE, UM, A BETTER WAY TO STATE THAT. AND THEN IN THE SECOND SENTENCE, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO COVID-19 BECAUSE OF OUR PREEXISTING MEDICAL CONDITIONS. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST SAYING MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE NOT ALL PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE PREEXISTING MEDICAL CONDITIONS. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT AFFECTS A LARGE PART OF THE POPULATION. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT, NOT EVERYONE WITH A DISABILITY WOULD SAY THAT THEY HAVE A PREEXISTING MEDICAL CONDITION. UM, AND THEN IN THE SKIPPING DOWN TO THE FOURTH PARAGRAPH, UM, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THIS MEANS. UM, THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL WEBSITE EXPLICITLY DOES NOT RECOMMEND SOCIAL DISTANCING INCLUDE THINGS LIKE BLOCKING OFF ACCESS TO DISABILITY, ACCESSIBLE PARKING, LOCKING OFF NON EMERGENCY EXIT DOOR ACCESS, OR OTHER ERRONEOUS AND RIDICULOUS TACTICS, WHICH LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS HAVE FALSELY CLAIMED HELPS TO PREVENT COVID-19. I BELIEVE WHAT THIS MIGHT BE SAYING IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING, IT DOES NOT SAY AS YOU'RE TRYING TO DO SOCIAL DISTANCING, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'RE MAINTAINING ACCESS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE POINT IS TRYING TO MAKE, BUT I THINK THAT NEEDS SOME, SOME CHANGING. UM, SO MAYBE YOU COULD SAY YES, UM, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BLOCKING OFF ACCESS TO DOORS CLOSEST TO DISABILITY, ACCESS PARKING, UM, CLAIMING THAT THIS IS PART OF A COVID-19 AND THAT, UH, THIS IS ALLOWED UNDER CDC GUIDELINES AND THERE'S NOTHING, UM, NOTHING UNDER THE CDC WEBSITE ABOUT THAT, ABOUT BLOCKING OFF DOORS. OKAY. SO STATING THAT, THAT THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL DOES NOT STATE THAT SAFETY MEASURES COULD ENSURE THAT ACCESS IS STILL BEING PROVIDED, RIGHT. AND THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE, I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE A STRONG STANCE AGAINST THAT AND PROHIBIT MERCHANTS FROM DOING THAT. UM, THEY NEED TO, I PROHIBIT THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE DOWN THOSE BARRICADES AND THEY NEED TO FIND THE MERCHANTS WHO ARE DOING THAT, ALIGN THEIR TAIL OFF ABOUT WHAT THE CDC DOES AND DOES NOT SAY DISEASE PREVENTION IS ONE THING, BUT LINES ANOTHER. YEAH, I FULLY SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING DOES NOT MEAN THAT NO ACCESS IS NOT IMPORTANT. [01:10:01] SO I FULLY AGREE ABOUT THAT. I JUST THINK THAT SENTENCE CAN BE, UM, WORDED, UM, IN A WAY THAT MAKES THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. UM, I MEAN, I ALSO HAD A QUESTION. SO THE SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH SAYS CAPITAL METRO HAD ATTEMPTED TO MAKE ALL PAST USERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH DISABILITIES FOR THE BACK OF THE BUS, EVEN WHEN THERE WAS NO RAMP TO SAFELY OR EXIT THE VEHICLE. UM, SO I'M JUST LIKE, IF SOMEBODY SHOWS UP, IF SOMEBODY IS USING A WHEELCHAIR, THEY'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO WALK UP THE BACK OF THE BUS. YES. I WANT TO TEST HIM TO DO THAT. OKAY. WELL, THOSE WOULD BE MY AREAS THAT I FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE, UM, ADDRESSED ON THIS RESOLUTION, BUT OTHERWISE I COMPLETELY SUPPORT, SUPPORT THE INTENT OF IT. UM, I THINK JUST THOSE REVISIONS, UM, AND THEN THE ONE REFERRING TO TESTING TESTING SITES, UM, IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF OUR DISABILITIES, SUCH AS EPILEPSY, BLINDNESS, AND OTHER PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT OTHER PREEXISTING CONDITIONS JUST BE CHANGED TO OTHER DISABILITIES. UM, CAUSE AGAIN, PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. OKAY. UH, THIS IS DAVID ONDECK AND I WANTED TO, UH, INTERJECT THAT IT, IT MAY BE, UH, UH, WORTH SPEAKING WITH CAPITAL METRO BECAUSE, UH, MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, UH, WITH A PERSON WITH A WHEELCHAIR, THE FRONT DOOR INDEED WAS BLOCKED OFF, BUT WHEN THEY, UH, ROLLED UP TO THE, UM, BUS STOP AND THERE WAS A PERSON IN A WHEELCHAIR, THERE THEY ARE, THEY LOWERED THE RAMP AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT BARRIER AND ALLOW THE PERSON IN IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS THEIR POLICY. SO I WOULD, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, CAPITAL METRO AND BE CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS TO WALK UP THE STAIRS IN THE BACK OF THE BUS. THAT IS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR POLICY. I SEE. SO POLICY WISE THAT PEOPLE HAD TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE BUS. UM, IF YOU WERE PAYING BY CASH AND PEOPLE WHO SWIPE HAD TO USE THE FRONT, THEY WERE DOING IT, WHETHER YOU PAID BY CASH OR, OR THEIR CARD. NO, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THEY ARE PROVIDING RAMP ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO USE WHEELCHAIRS RIGHT NOW. NOW THEY ARE ORIGINALLY, THEY WEREN'T, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY EVEN CRIED THAT IN THE BEGINNING IS DANGEROUS AND INEXCUSABLE BECAUSE THAT VIOLATED ADA, THIS IS EMILY SHACK. I WOULD, I WOULD BE HESITANT TO PUT IN AN EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT OR GOTTEN CLARIFICATION ON EXACT POLICY. I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN INDIVIDUAL'S EXPERIENCE, BUT IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN A RESOLUTION, I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND EXPLORING WHAT WAS THEIR POLICY? WHAT IS IT NOW, HOW IS THAT BEING IMPLEMENTED? AGAIN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND I DEFINITELY THINK IT'D BE WORTH FOLLOWING UP ON, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE THAT BELONGS IN A RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT, OUR POLICY. OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY HAVE CHANGED, SO RIGHT. BUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAD THAT IS VERY PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE THEY ALL PUBLICLY FUNDED. YES. I WAS GOING TO SAY, AS FAR AS THE RESOLUTION, I THINK IF WE JUST START TO MAKING IT MORE BROAD, AS FAR AS YOU ANY MEASURES, UH, TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD NOT, UH, BLOCK ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES INSTEAD OF SPECIFICALLY TRYING TO DEAL WITH SPECIFICS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OKAY. YEAH. INSTEAD OF, YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GO. IT'S ALWAYS JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, SAME THING, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THERE'S A SPIRITUAL EVENT OR WHATEVER, THEIR ACCESS TO USUALLY THE FIRST THING THAT GOES. SO, UH, YEAH, JUST LIKE I SAID, GENERIC, BROAD, UH, YEAH. WE'RE ALL FOR SURE. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN BLOCK THAT [01:15:01] ACCESS. YEAH. I LIKE JUST CAUSE YOU HAVE SPECIAL JUST CAUSE WE HAVE A PANDEMIC JUST CAUSE HE HAVE A SOCIAL DISTANCING DOESN'T MEAN YOU, ADA IS NOT STILL IN EFFECT. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, THIS, ANY MOTIONS TO CARRY IT FORWARD? THIS IS DAVID, I BELIEVE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE APPROVED, UH, THAT, YEAH, THAT CHANGES WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, MADE THE EXACT LANGUAGE. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, PUT IN AND THEN THE, UH, THEN THE COMMITTEE COULD, COULD APPROVE IT. OKAY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE TABLE IT FOR NOW UNTIL WE GET THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE TIGHTER. IS THAT REQUIRE A MOTION. OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE AS, AND WORK ON THE LANGUAGE AND BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING FOR A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE VOTE SECOND. ALRIGHT. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, OF TABLING THE AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSE CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE WILL TABLE THIS. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TO DROP AND STAY IN. ALL RIGHT. HI. THANK YOU, DIANE. THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP WORK ON THE, UH, REVISIONS TO THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SURE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY I DIDN'T SNEEZE THE YARD EAR. UH, THE NEXT NEXT ONE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR, UH, AGENDA IS THE RACE AND GENDER [2B. NEW BUSINESS: Discussion and possible action to adopt/endorse a Race and Gender Equity Resolution passed by the Commission for Women– Commissioners Orlowski and Trejo;] EQUITY RESOLUTION. THIS WAS PASSED PREVIOUSLY BY THE COMMISSION FOR WOMEN. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST, UH, SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY WERE GOING TO SIGN A LETTER. WE, I GUESS WE'RE JUST CO-SIGNING THIS IS BASICALLY, YEAH, BASICALLY. WE'RE JUST, CO-SIGNING IT SIGNING ON? UM, UH, THE, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE JOINT INCLUSION COMMITTEE YET ALSO CO-SIGNED ON, UM, LIKE I CO-SIGNED ON FOR US, BUT UH, I WANTED OUR COMMISSION TO COAST ON, ON AS A WHOLE. SO I BROUGHT IT TO OUR COMMISSION AFTER THE MEETING. OKAY. A DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, SOME GENDER DISCUSSION, UM, I GUESS MAKE A MOTION TO CO-SIGN OR NOT. I KNOW TO MAKE A MOTION, IF YOU NEED A SECOND, WE'VE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CO-SIGNING AYE. AS OPPOSED I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND THEN [2C. NEW BUSINESS: Discussion and possible action to adopt/endorse A Police Oversight Resolution passed by the Human Rights Commission – commissioner Orlowski and Vice-Chair Levy.] THE LAST RESOLUTION WE HAD HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. UH, AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE LEASE OVERSIGHT KIND OF TIMELY. YES, IT IS. SO OPEN UP DISCUSSION ON THIS, ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, UM, IT SOUND LIKE ANY [01:20:01] DISCUSSION ENTERTAIN, A MOTION TO COSIGN OR NOT CO-SIGNER I'M ONLY TRYING TO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE COASTLINE AND SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU ANY SECOND. YEAH. HI, MR. SIGNS. AND NOW MICHELLE ASKED A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CO-SIGNING. AYE, AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. OKAY. THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. GO BACK TO THE AGENDA HERE. UH, LET'S SEE, WE'VE GOT ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES LEFT. SO IS THERE ANY [Items 4 & 5] FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? MISSIONARY GETS SICK? I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION PROBABLY WITH WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE OF, UM, I GUESS APDS TRAINING OR, UH, THE ACADEMY REQUIREMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT PERSON WE SHOULD SPEAK WITH CONSIDERING EVERYTHING WE BROUGHT UP HERE AND THAT THE OPA OH CAN'T IS NOT IN CHARGE OF THOSE THINGS. SO IF WE WANT TO TALK TO APD ABOUT THESE THINGS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM MAPD THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THOSE THINGS TO SPEAK WITH. SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK. I NOTE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND THEN COORDINATE WITH THE LITTLE LEAGUE SO YOU CAN GET THAT ON A SCHEDULE IN THE FUTURE. JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE SIGNED UP. I WAS TALKING TO, UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, GET INPUT FROM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S ALWAYS JUST PEOPLE, JUST MENTAL HEALTH, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IF WE COULD. UM, IT SOUNDED LIKE SOMEBODY SUGGESTED A FORUM TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AS FAR AS IF THEY'VE HAD ANY ISSUES RELATED TO DEALING WITH THE POLICE THAT INVOLVED, UH, THE DISABILITY, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN MENTAL HEALTH. UM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ONE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, STORIES AND STUFF, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER ISSUES AND, AND UH, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SAVE, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOBODY AS BOB, SOMEBODY DYING, BUT UM, LIKE I SAID, JUST OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO, UH, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES DEALING WITH THE POLICE. UM, EVEN SO I'VE HAD FRIENDS TELL ME THAT THE POLICE WOULD LISTEN TO THEM WHEN, UH, AS FAR AS THE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO KNOW WHAT TO DO, THEY WERE ASKING FOR HELP, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WHAT THE POLICE WANTED, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT THE POLICE WON'T LET THEM TO CALL AN AMBULANCE TO TAKE THEM. SO THE CAR COULD BE TOWED AND IT'S LIKE, NO, WE DON'T NEED STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, ISSUES THAT IT'S LIKE, WHAT SORT OF TIME WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH OUR ISSUES. WE JUST NEED MAYBE PHYSICAL HEALTH, YOU KNOW? UH, SO I'M SAYING, UM, SO MAYBE, MAYBE IT WOULD BE TO SEE, TO ASK THE PUBLIC TO SEE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WHAT, WHAT ISSUES HAVE HAD WHEN PEOPLE HAVE HAD OTHER THAN, UM, I MEAN, SURE. MORE MENTAL HEALTH AND I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE WERE BRINGING UP, UH, SPECIFICALLY OTHER DISABILITIES. NO, IDDS PHYSICAL PEOPLE WHO ARE BLIND OR DEAF. UM, OKAY. COMMISSIONER SCIENCE CONNECT. THIS IS DAVID ONDECK. CAN I GET A POINT OF CLARIFICATION? WOULD YOU LIKE TO, ARE YOU PROPOSING A FORUM, UH, THAT IS, UH, POSTED AS SUCH AS A SPECIAL CALLED FORUM? OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HAVING THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND OPENING IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND INVITING PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD, UM, UH, UH, EXPERIENCES, UH, SUCH AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED TO COME IN AND MAKE, UH, UH, A PUT THEIR COMMENTS ON THE RECORD? WE, WOULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. UH, UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME WITH THAT. UH, YES. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST, UH, JUST TO, UH, HEARING, YOU KNOW, DURING OUR REGULAR, UH, SCHEDULE MEETINGS, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, PUBLIC [01:25:01] HEARING OR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, BARRING FOLKS, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR, OUR NETWORKS TO, TO PARTICIPATE WITH, UH, ANY INCIDENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AS FAR AS DEALING WITH APD. PERFECT. THANK YOU. CAN WE MAYBE GET AN UPDATE ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE STUDY AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND JUST KIND OF WHERE WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS? I KNOW WE JUST GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT IT DURING THIS MEETING, UM, BUT WE'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW KIND OF WHERE, WHERE WE ARE AND NEXT STEPS. AND IF ANY OF THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT MS. COOPER IS MADE AWARE OF THAT AND WE'LL GET HER ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER FEATURES IN THE ITEMS? THIS IS DAVID ONDECK. ONE MORE TIME. I'M SORRY TO KEEP POPPING IN, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE ARE A BETTER COUPLE PENDING ITEMS FROM PREVIOUS MEETINGS. ONE OF THEM ARE THE CONDITIONS OF THE SIDEWALK ON WEST CAMPUS AND, UM, SOME VARIOUS PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY RESPONDED IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT SOME, UH, SOME PLANS IN THE WORKS. THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION PLANS THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, AND THEY WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THOSE PLANS WERE FINALIZED AND BRING TO THE COMMITTEE AND LET YOU ALL KNOW. AND THE CITIZENRY KNOW, UH, WHAT ARE, UH, THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT WEST CAMPUS, UH, PROBLEM, AND, AND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE TO RESOLVE THOSE. AND THEN THERE WAS A, UH, A SECOND, UM, INITIATIVE THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY, UM, UH, REGARDING, UH, UH, SAFETY, UH, SAFETY INITIATIVE THAT HAS ALSO BEEN PENDING, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON THAT HAS BEEN TABLED A COUPLE OF TIMES, JUST DUE TO INABILITY, INABILITY OF STAFF TO, TO COORDINATE. UM, I AM STILL BEHIND THE SCENE WORKING ON GETTING THOSE LINED UP. IF ANY OF THOSE COME THROUGH, I WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT, UH, THAT THOSE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FROM, UM, MEETINGS GONE BY, UH, ARE STILL ON THE RADAR SCREEN. AND WE, WE MAY STILL BE GETTING AN UPDATE, UH, ONCE THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DAVID. SPEAKING OF PAST AGENDA ITEMS, WHAT ABOUT THE TRAVIS COUNTY AUSTIN HATE CRIMES TASK FORCE THAT I THINK IS ONE THAT HAS ALSO KIND OF BEEN LINGERING AND I WILL PUT THAT BACK ON THE RADAR AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DAVID. HI, WE GOT A, WE'VE GOT A MINUTE HERE. WE'VE GOT A MINUTE HERE. LOVE. I SAID WE GET OUT ON TIME. ONE REAL QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. UH, THE ADA JUST CELEBRATED ITS 30TH ANNIVERSARY OF BEING SIGNED BY PRESIDENT BUSH. NUMBER 41. THAT'S THAT JUST OCCUR? I THINK AT THE END OF LAST MONTH, I THINK WAS THE BIG CELEBRATION. THEY HAVE LOTS OF INFORMATION GOING OUT THERE ON NPR AND A TEXAS PUBLIC RADIO AND A FEW OTHER SITES ON, ON ADA. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD OF SOME OF THOSE IS PRETTY BEING INVOLVED IN THE IMPRESSIVE HOW FAR WE'VE COME ON WHEN I WAS A KID AND STILL HOW MUCH FAR WE HAVE TO GO IN TERMS OF HAVING SOME EQUITY, HONESTLY, INDIVIDUALS THAT DISABILITY AT THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO, UH, I DO HAVE ONE QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE THAT QUICK, QUICK, WHAT ARE YOU? OFFICE OPENED UP MANY GRANT APPLICATIONS, UM, AND THIS YEAR THE AMOUNT INCREASED, BUT IT'S ONLY FOCUSING ON COVID-19. YEAH, I SAW THAT GO. YEAH. IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO APPLY, I YEAH, PLEASE DO. ALRIGHT, NOTED. UH, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO IN THE MEETING. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AND THE SIDE TIRE SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED I'LL PASS . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.