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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:07]

UM, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ACTUALLY, EVERYONE, UM, PLEASE KEEP YOUR LINE MUTED, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK PLEASE.

THE INSTRUCTION SAVE UNLESS YOU'RE CALLED UPON.

SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I CAN, THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.

AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE RECORDED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS ARE CLEAR, UM, STAFF, UH, DID EMORY COME BACK? I DIDN'T SEE HER.

THERE SHE GOES.

OKAY.

SO EMORY MEGAN'S WILL BE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL ARE READY TO GO.

OKAY.

IN THAT CASE, UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER ARTS COMMISSION, A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING JULY 20TH AT THREE OH TWO, UH, MEETING VIA TELECONFERENCE HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

UH, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT THEY'RE NOT QUITE ON THE LINE YET.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON, ON THE AGENDA

[2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

I TRUST EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO READ, UM, BOTH SETS OF MINUTES, ONE FOR OUR JUNE 24TH MEETING AND ONE FOR OUR JUNE 26 MEETING MOTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE 24TH MEETING MOTION BY PAUL TO APPROVE SECONDED BY FLORES.

MAYBE QUESTION ON ITEM SIDE, THEIR VOTE IS LISTED THOSE SEVEN OH AND TWO, BUT THE WAR AGAINST AND ABSTAIN IS ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY EIGHT ZERO ONE OR ONE.

OH NO, THIS THREE.

NOPE.

FORGET IT.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T COUNT.

WE'RE GOING TO SEND ANYTHING COVID BRAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST TO REMIND YOU TO SOUND LIKE THERE'S SOME ECHO THERE.

JUST REMIND EVERYONE, MUTE YOUR MUTE LINES.

AND, UM, SO WE HAD A MOTION AND WE HAD A MONTH FOR THE JUNE 24TH MEETING.

UH, I'M BETTING IT, SOMEONE ON THE PHONE.

I WAS GETTING THE ECHO.

UM, BUT, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, ALL IN FAVOR, UM, COMMISSIONER MOCK COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER KEATON, COMMISSIONER BARNS, COMMISSIONER ZISMAN COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER PAUL GAR COMMISSIONER GARZA, UH, COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE.

I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM YOUR NAH, YOU'RE MUTED.

CAN YOU UNMUTE? I STILL DIDN'T HEAR YOU GIVE ME A THUMBS UP IF YOU'RE IN A THUMB TO DOWN.

IF YOU'RE A NO.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE SAYS, UH, YES.

AND SINCE I FORGOT, ACTUALLY, THAT'S, WE'LL USE THAT ALSO AS OUR ROLE EVERYONE'S HERE.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND SO, UH, THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY ON A MOVE MOVE ON WITH THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE JUNE SIX MEETING MOTION TO APPROVE BY POLL GUARDS, SECONDED BY MOC, ANY EDITS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS ON THIS ONE.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR COMMISSIONER MOCK FONTAINE, KEATON BARNS, ZISMAN FLORES POLL GUARD, VAN DYKE, AND GARZA.

SO THIS, UH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CHECKING IN WITH STAFF, SEE IF OUR SPEAKER IS, HAS ARRIVED.

UH, IF NOT, UM, I DID HAVE A QUICK, UH, AN IMPROMPTU, UM, SHARISE REPORT AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT WE, UH, SENT OUT OUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, SUPPORTING THE LETTER, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE ARE FUTURE FUNDS AVAILABLE THAT THE, THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION SUPPORTS, YOU KNOW, UH, GETTING FUNDS TO ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, UM, THAT WENT OUT TO COUNCIL.

AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT, THAT WE, AS ARTS COMMISSION ARE, UH, AN ADVISORY

[00:05:01]

BODY FOR THE WHOLE CITY.

SO WHEN THESE TYPES OF REQUESTS COME IN, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT IS A REQUEST THAT IS COMING FROM THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

AND IF IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO HAVE THE PREROGATIVE TO QUESTION IT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE ARE WORKING AS A COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE PARTICIPATES IN THESE EFFORTS TO, TO IMPROVE THE WHOLE ARTS COMMUNITY.

UM, AND I, AND I SAY THAT AS WE EXPECT TO LATER DOWN IN THE AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THAT WE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW OUR ANNUAL INTERNAL REVIEW.

AND THAT IS PART, OUR GOALS ARE PART OF THAT.

AND OUR GOALS DO STATE THAT, THAT WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO I DID WANT OUR FRIENDS IN ARTS COMMUNITY TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, AS THEY'RE WORKING ON PROJECTS AND WANT TO BRING FORTH ISSUES, UM, TO US.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO HAND IT OVER TO STAFF OR FOLLOW UP AND FOLLOW ALONG ON THE AGENDA ITEM THREE STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, WE HAVE A COVID-19

[a. COVID-19 update]

UPDATE, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

I ASKED ANN MARIE TO SEND OUT A MEMO THAT WE JUST RELEASED TO COUNCIL ON FRIDAY THAT PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE STOOD UP AND THOSE THAT ARE TO COME.

SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES OUT AND ONE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND ONE FOR NONPROFITS, WHICH INCLUDES ART AND CULTURE.

AND TOMORROW WE WILL RELEASE A CHILDCARE GRANT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THE MEMO IS QUITE COMPREHENSIVE AND MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT GETTING IT OUT EARLIER.

THANK YOU.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MEGAN.

RIGHT.

DID YOU HAVE, DID YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL FOR THE COVID-19 UPDATE, MEGAN, OR IS THAT FOR THE NEXT ITEM? UM, I THINK I'M UNMUTED NOW.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, THAT, THAT'S THE BIG PICTURE UPDATE.

I DID WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN ROLLING OUT SEVERAL PROGRAMS, UH, THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THE NEXT ONE, UH, THAT WE ARE WORKING ON STANDING UP IS THE THREE POINT $5 MILLION ALLOCATION OF CARES FUNDING THAT GO, THAT COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED TO GO TOWARDS INDIVIDUAL CREATIVES IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE'VE GOT A TEAM OF INTERNAL FOLKS WORKING ON WHAT THOSE PROGRAM GUIDELINES, UM, MIGHT BE, UM, AND WE'RE HOPING FOR A ROLLOUT, UM, NEXT MONTH.

SO I WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED ON THE TIMING OF THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT MEMO THAT, UH, SOME OF YOU SAID WENT OUT ON FRIDAY TO COUNSEL, UH, AND THEN WE GOT AN R WE GOT TODAY IN OUR EMAILS.

IS THAT ADDED INTO THE BACKUP WILL BE, YES, WE'LL BE OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO MOVING ALONG, WE'RE A THREE B

[b. Cultural Funding Review Process update]

CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PROCESS UPDATE.

DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THAT, MEGAN? OKAY.

SORRY.

I'M GETTING A, THERE'S A DELAY ON MY SIDE.

SO I'M HEARING WHAT I JUST SAID.

UM, UH, CULTURAL FUNDING UPDATE.

YES.

UM, MJ, OUR PARTNERS IS BACK ON BOARD WITH US.

UH, WE HAVE AMENDED THEIR CONTRACT TO, AND I Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT JUST TO RECAP, TO INCLUDE A SCOPE OF, UH, WORKING WITH NOT ONLY CULTURAL ARTS, BUT ALSO THE HERITAGE TOURISM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY AND THE LIVE MUSIC, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION STAFF.

SO, UH, MARGIE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THOSE, UH, MANAGERS OF THOSE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS, MELISSA ALVARADO AND ERICA SHAMLEY.

AND I KNOW SHE'S BEGUN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LIVE MUSIC, UH, STAKEHOLDER GROUPS.

AND I THINK SHE SHE'S WORKING ON A PLAN FOR ENGAGING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMUNITY.

SO THE IDEA IS FOR THEM TO, UH, ALIGN THEIR ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WITH OUR TIMELINE, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TOGETHER INTO THE PHASE WHERE WE WILL START TO VET RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING FAIRLY SOON IN THE NEXT, UM, PROBABLY TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.

OH, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

YEAH.

I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO, INCLUDING EVERYBODY OR BROADENING THE SCOPE IS

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NOT GOING TO PUSH THIS BACK FURTHER.

IS IT, I MEAN, ALL WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE ON OUR SCHEDULE TIMELINE.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU SUPER WELL.

LULU.

I THINK YOU'RE ASKING HIM ABOUT TIMING, TIMELINE, RIGHT? I WAS SAYING, I HOPE THAT THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE.

I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO NOT BE DELAYED BY BROADENING THE SCOPE.

ARE WE STILL GONNA MAINTAIN, WE STILL HAVE THE ULTIMATE DEADLINE IS THE SAME FOR US.

UM, SO THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC AND WE ALSO INCREASED THE SCOPE.

SO IT HAS, UM, GROWN A LITTLE BIT OF A CURVE BALL OUR WAY, BUT WE'RE STILL PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SAME DEADLINE, WHICH IS TO REACH A CONSENSUS ON RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR SO THAT WE CAN VET THEM AND FINALIZE THEM EARLY NEXT YEAR, AND THEN ROLL OUT OUR NEW PROGRESS PROGRAMS IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD, AS USUAL, WHICH IS IN THE SPRING.

AND MEGAN, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT IT WOULD NOT BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT IT'S THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT THAT'S BEING INCLUDED, BUT I'D RATHER THOSE DIVISIONS THAT, UM, DISTRIBUTE FUNDS FROM THE WHOLE ACT VINCI TAX FUND, CORRECT? YES, MARGIE'S SCOPE IS PRIMARILY THOSE HOT FUND, HOT FUNDED PROGRAMS WITHIN EDD PURVIEW.

UM, HOWEVER, WE ARE TRYING TO TRANSFER ANY LESSONS LEARNED AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE IMPLICATIONS FOR EFFICIENCIES AND EQUITY THAT WE CAN ROLL OUT IN SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN OTHER PROGRAMS. BUT OUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS TO FOCUS ON HOT FEMS. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, CITY HALL STAFF, ANY, ANY WORD FROM OUR SPEAKER? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THAT WE WILL CONTINUE.

UM,

[a. Discussion and Action Items]

MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS COMMISSIONER BARNES IS THAT YEAH.

COMMISSIONER WARRANTS.

UM, UM, CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PUT ALL OF THE AIPP ITEMS ON A CONSENT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF BAD CONNECTIONS, BUT, UH, A MOTION BY BARNES TO PUT ALL OF AIPP ITEMS ON CONSENT.

UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

OKAY.

SECONDED BY FLORES.

UM, SO AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WANT ALL OF THE AIPP ITEMS ON CONSENT.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY THAT WE WANT TO PULL OFF NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT COMMISSIONER MOCK.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AIPP PANEL VACANCY WILL BE DISGUISED.

YES.

SO ITEM FIVE 81, THE AIPP PANEL VACANCY NOMINATION IS NOT ON CONSENT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FANTE YOU'RE STILL MUTED.

SORRY.

NOPE.

HOW ABOUT NOW? TRY IT NOW.

NO, IT'S STILL NOT HEARING YOU.

UM, CAN YOU PUT IT IN COMMENTS AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE READ IT OUT LOUD? CAN YOU TEXT IT TO SOMEONE? DO YOU HAVE MY COMMISSIONER? FANTE I WILL SEND YOU THE CALL IN NUMBER SO YOU CAN CALL IN ON THE PHONE SO YOU CAN HAVE THE AUDIO.

THANK YOU, ANNE MARIE, UH, ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL OFF OF THE CONSENT WHILE WE WAIT FOR COMMISSIONER FANTE COMMISSIONER FANTA IS ASKED TO PULL THE AIRPORT OFF OF CONSENT.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THAT IS ITEM FOUR, A ONE, FOUR, A ONE.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO BE PULLED OFF? OKAY.

SO TO CONFIRM WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOR ITEM FOUR, A TWO APPROVING COMPREHENSIVE PROSPECT PERSPECTIVES FOR THE 2018 AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR A THREE APPROVING OUR PERSPECTIVES FOR ANDERSON MILL ROAD, REGIONAL MOBILITY, PROJECT ITEM FIVE, A TWO SELECTION PROCESS RECOMMENDATION FOR AIP CORRIDOR, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FREE QUAL ARTISTS POOL, AND FIVE, EIGHT, THREE PERSPECTIVES FROM THE 13 CORRIDOR CONSTRUCTION PROGRAM.

I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE AIPP ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO,

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UH, ALL IN FAVOR AND PUTTING THOSE ITEMS ON CONSENT AND APPROVING THEM COMMISSIONER MOCK, MR. KEATON, COMMISSIONER BARNS, COMMISSIONER DIZMAN COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER PULLED OUR MISSION REGARDS THE COMMISSIONER FANTE AND COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE.

SO THAT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THEN THAT LEAVES, UH, OUR NECK.

SO THAT LEAVES MEANS OUR NEXT ITEM IS APPROVE THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE AUSTIN BERGSTROM INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, PARKING GARAGE AND ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FROM THESE TWO AIPP PROJECT.

UM, COMMISSIONER FANTE I'M ON THE PHONE NOW.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME.

DIDN'T HEAR YOUR VOICE NOW.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE I READ THAT GIANT, UH, PEER PANEL REVIEW AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE NUMEROUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE FINAL DESIGN AND NUMEROUS SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT COULD BE FIXED.

AND TO ME, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING THAT UNTIL WE KNOW THAT THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN BASICALLY ANSWERED IF NOT TAKEN.

UM, IT DID SEEM LIKE THEY WERE REALLY IN THE WEEDS, BUT I KNOW THAT THE PLANS ARE REALLY IN THE WEEDS TOO.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW CONCERNED WE NEED TO BE, BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN, UM, IN ARCHITECTURE.

UH, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE, AND THAT'S WHY WE ASK THEM TO REVIEW THE THING.

AND THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, SEVEN OR EIGHT CONCERNS WITH, UH, AND SOME OF THEM WERE AS SIMPLE AS PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, EXTRA LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, KITS SO THAT IT WILL BE EASY PLUG AND PLAY IF SOMETHING HAD TO BE FIXED RATHER THAN HAVING TO TRACK SOMETHING DOWN.

SO, UM, I THINK IF YOU READ ALL THOSE CONCERNS, IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY YES, THIS PROJECT IS READY TO GO WITHOUT AT LEAST ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE.

OKAY.

STAFF, CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME INSIGHT? HI, HI, THIS IS MARJORIE.

EXPLAIN AGAIN WITH ART IN PUBLIC SPACES.

HEY, I DON'T THINK MY VIDEO IS WORKING FOR SOME REASONS I'M HERE.

UH, ALL OF THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND ADDRESSED BY THE ARTIST'S TEAM.

WE USE THE ART CONSERVATION OR REVIEWS TO HELP THEM ADJUST THEIR DESIGNS.

SO THEY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED COMMISSIONER FANTE BECAUSE READING, IT SAID HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE RAISED AND THIS, SOME OF THEM SAID, THIS IS HOW IT WAS ADDRESSED AND OTHERS WHERE THE HERE'S, HOW I WAS RAISED.

AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD AND ADDRESSED DRAFT YET.

SO YOU'RE SAYING ALL THE THINGS THAT THE PEER REVIEW SAYS, WE DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A, OKAY.

YES.

THE FIRST CONSERVATION, THEY DON'T GET BACK THE DESIGN, THE ARTIST RECEIVES THEIR COMMENTS AND I WORK WITH THEM TO UPDATE ALL OF THAT.

THE QUESTION MARKS BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK.

SO THEY HAVE UPDATED THE DESIGNS, BUT IT DOESN'T GO BACK TO THE CONSERVATOR.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FLORES LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE MUTED.

NOT TO PROVE I'M NOT A DOCTOR.

I WAS ON MUTE BEFORE.

OKAY.

SO A MOTION TO APPROVE BY FLORES, SECONDED BY POLDARK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? UH, SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR, MOCK FANTE KEATON BARNS, ZISMAN FLORES, PULL GAR VAN DYKE AND GARZA.

THIS PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER POLAR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FIVE, A ONE PP PANEL, VACANCY NOMINATION.

NEXT ONE'S THE AGENDA.

SO WE CAN ADDRESS THAT MOTION BY PAUL GUARD TO MOVE FIVE 81 TO NOW, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES SECONDS, UH, ALL IN FAVOR.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH, LET'S JUST MOVE IT.

COMMISSIONER MOCK.

YOU'RE STILL MUTED.

YES.

WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT.

UM, I AM, UH, I'M.

I SERVE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AND I KNOW MY TWO OTHER, UM, I GUESS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, RECOMMEND JONATHAN AND, UM, MY, UH,

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AS, AND THE SECOND CHOICE IS ELAINE SHIN, BUT MY FIRST CHOICE IS ELATION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO TALK ABOUT YOUR LANE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT JULAINE, UH, WAS, UH, HER FATHER WAS MY ARCHITECT.

WELL, MY FIRST HOUSE AND SHE, UH, SHE WAS THE LITTLE GIRL, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR WHEN SHE WAS LIKE A 10, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE MOVED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I HAVE NOT, UH, GET IN TOUCH WITH, WITH HER ALL THIS TIME.

UM, AND, UH, I, I JUST FIND OUT THAT SHE ON THE PEN, NO, I MEAN, SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CANDIDATE.

SO I DID ASK THE STAFF TO SEE IF I NEED TO RECRUIT MYSELF BECAUSE I KNOW HER, BUT BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER HAD CONTACT WITH HER, AN ID, I JUST FIND OUT ON THE DAY WHEN WE INTERVIEWED HER THAT SHE IS THE LITTLE GIRL, YOU KNOW? UM, SO AT THIS MOMENT OF TIME, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND DIVERSITY.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO FIND INCLUSION AND, UH, SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS THE CREDIBILITY, UM, THE SKILL, KNOWLEDGE, AND THE CREDENTIAL TO SOLVE, BUT, UH, MAYBE SHE'S NOT AS INVOLVED AS JONATHAN IN THE AA, UM, IP, UH, COMMUNITY.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT HER BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, UM, SHE GRADUATED, YOU KNOW, WITH A, UM, GRADUATE DEGREE FROM YALE AND SHE GRADUATED FROM UT AND SHE HAS BEEN AN AUSTINITE, UM, A LONG TIME AND SHE'S AN ARTIST AND A DESIGNER.

AND ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT, UM, STRIKE ME THAT IMPRESSED ME THE MOST IS ABOUT HOW THOUGHTFUL SHE IS.

UM, WHEN WE WERE ASKING HER HUSBAND, SHE, THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASKED HER THAT DISCUSS YOUR PERCEPTION OF PUBLIC ARTWORK FUNCTIONING AT ITS BEST, WHAT IS WORKING.

AND THAT IS WORST.

WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES? AND SHE WAS, UM, AS SUSAN HERE AS SUSAN WITH US, BECAUSE SHE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE PUBLIC ARTWORK.

UM, UM, IT WAS A BIG, I THINK IT'S IN SALT LAKE CITY.

I ASKED SUSAN TO PREPARE THAT FOR OUR, UM, FOR OUR DISCUSSION.

IS SHE THERE? YES.

HI, THIS IS SUE LAMB ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.

PROGRAM MANAGER.

YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

I DID, UM, HAVE THOSE SLIDES FROM LAST MONTH, BUT I FORGOT TO MOVE THEM INTO THIS MONTH, UM, BUCKET.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, UM, BECAUSE I THINK A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

THAT IS A HUGE, UM, PAIR OF HANDS AND THAT I THINK IT'S MADE OF A BRONZE.

SO, SO, AND THEN, UM, AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT AND SHE UNDERSTAND HOW PUBLIC ARTS IS VERY INTERACTIVE AND INVITE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS PIECE OF PUBLIC ARTS WAS BASICALLY, UM, YOU CAN CALL IT VANDALIZED BECAUSE PEOPLE CALL SOME GRIT PINK ON IT.

UM, RECENTLY, BECAUSE OF THE, I GUESS, BECAUSE OF THE PEDANTIC OR BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE MOVEMENT, THE BLACK LIVES MATTER MOVEMENT THAT PEOPLE PAUSE, SOME RED PAINT ON IT.

AND, AND, UH, I MEAN THAT, THAT REALLY SHOW HER THOUGHTS ON US.

IT WAS SAYING THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC ART, YOU INVITE PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH THE ARTS, AND THEN WHEN THEY POUR THE RED PAINT ON IT, UM, THAT ADD ONTO THE INTENT OF THE ARTISTS.

AND SO THAT CAN BE THE WORST BECAUSE IT, UM, IS, IS NOT, IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE CREATION OF THE ARTISTS, NOT IT IS THE PUBLIC WHO ARE ADDING ONTO THE ARTWORK.

SO I THINK THAT BE, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST HER THOUGHTFULNESS.

IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HER PERCEPTION ABOUT PUBLIC ART, UH, AND WHAT IT IS, AND YOU KNOW, HOW IN INSPIRE AND HOW YOU INVITE AND HOW IT HAS DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME.

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AND PLUS I TRULY BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SHE'S NOW WORKING FOR AN ARCHITECTURAL FIRM AND THEN SHE WAS ON THE BOARD OF, UH, FUSE, YOU KNOW? AND SO I THINK SHE, SHE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN A COMMUNITY.

AND I, I THINK THAT SHE'S COMMITTED, YOU KNOW, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, TO THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE, AND THE WORK.

AND I THINK SHE WILL BE A GREAT ADVOCATES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY AND, AND ALSO, OR THE ASIAN COMMUNITY, WHICH IS, UH, SO LACK OF REPRESENTATION.

SO I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT, UM, TO HAVE HER, UM, BE SELECTED, YOU KNOW, TO SERVE ON THE AIPP PANEL.

SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YEAH.

SO WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAD REALLY GREAT CANDIDATES, UM, AT THE, THERE, IT MADE IT DIFFICULT, MADE IT A DIFFICULT DECISION.

THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT HAVE A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

UM, BUT I THOUGHT THAT COMMISSIONER BARNES HAD HIS HAND RAISED.

SO COMMISSIONER BARNS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WAS TAMMY ABLE TO MAKE THE PHONE CALL? I THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE HERE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING HER YET.

TAMMY.

I AM ON CALL.

CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? I AM ON LEAVE.

CAN WE MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL MUTED? CAUSE I'M GETTING SOME HEAD NODS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S MUTED.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, PLUS HELLO? I, I DO HEAR YOU.

YOU VERY FAINTLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS CAN, WELL, I CAN HEAR YOU GUYS FINE.

I DON'T, UM, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

VERY FAINTLY, TAMMY, IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO INCREASE THE VOLUME, HEAR ME NOW, IF I YELL, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? BARELY.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN RESOLVE THIS.

CAUSE I DID CALL IN.

CAN YOU HEAR, I I'M GETTING A HEAD SHAKE.

LIKE SOME PEOPLE CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

SOME OF US, NOT ALL OF US THOUGH.

HEY TAMMY, I'M WONDERING IF THIS WORKS.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR YOU NOW.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

LET ME GET RID OF ALL THEIR CALL THOUGH.

CAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A YES, ACTUALLY.

NOW I'M AFRAID I'M GOING TO CUT YOU OFF.

UM, SO YEAH, WE HAD TWO GOOD.

WE HAD, UH, SEVERAL CANDIDATES FROM STRONG CANDIDATES.

UM, AND AMY IS CORRECT.

WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DIVERSITY, UM, RACE ETHNICITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LGBTQ ON THE PANEL AS WELL.

SO I AGREE.

SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A, UM, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN I'M I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING AGAINST WHAT AMY IS SAYING.

I TOTALLY AGREE.

I THINK THAT WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO IS THAT WE, AS WE LOOKED AT THOSE TWO FINAL CANDIDATES, J MUZAK, UM, HER, UH, JV EXEC AND THE LANE OVERLAPS IN SOME, DEFINITELY SOME AREAS, THEY BOTH HAVE OUTREACHES COMMUNITY.

THEY'VE BOTH BEEN EDUCATORS.

UM, AND THEY BOTH ARE, UM, ARTISTS.

UH, THE, THE DIFFERENCE HAS, UH, THE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES ARE THE, IS THE COMMUNITY THAT JAY MUSIC, UM, IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH VERSUS MAYBE THE COMMUNITY THAT LA MIGHT WORK WITH IN THE FUTURE.

AND WHEN I SAYING THAT IS THAT HE'S A 2D ARTIST, A MURALIST HE'S MADE THREE DIMENSIONAL ART AND HE HAS CURRENTLY COMPLETED.

YEAH.

AND TAMMY, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

UM, SO THAT'S, WHAT I HEARD WAS THAT

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YOU AGREE WITH WHAT AMY SAID AND, UM, YOU DON'T DISAGREE.

YOU, WE DO NEED DIVERSITY, WE DO NEED, UH, LGBTQ REPRESENTATION.

UM, BUT WHAT IT CAME DOWN FOR YOU WAS THAT, UH, JAY'S EXPERIENCE IS THAT HE'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THESE COMMUNITIES, UM, WHERE ELAINE MAY POSSIBLY BE WORKING WITH IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND I, AND I REPEAT THAT BECAUSE I STARTED GETTING SOME, SOME, SOME HEAD SHAKES AND STUFF.

UM, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE COULD HEAR WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO PICK IT UP FROM THERE.

OKAY.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN THAT AS A PERSON WHO IS CURRENTLY FINISHING UP A PROJECT AT THE ROSEWOOD BATCH HOUSE, UM, HE'S COMPLETING AN AIPP PROJECT.

HE'S WORTH WORKED WITH THE MEXICAN ART MUSEUM.

AND HE CURRENTLY WORK THERE AS A MURALIST MENTOR.

UM, HE'S WORKING WORKS WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, SUCH AS RAISING IN A SUN, WHICH HELPS MURALISTS, UH, YOUNG MURALISTS REALIZE WORK.

AND SO HE, UM, JUST HAPPENED TO BE A PERSON WHO HAS, UH, THE BEST IN SOME WAYS LIKE HE CAN ADVOCATE FOR AIPP TEMPO TO THE TEMPO BECAUSE HE HAS WORKED WITHIN THE PROGRAMS AND IT'S COMPLETED THE PROGRAM.

SO IT REALLY JUST CAME DOWN TO THE IDEA OF LIKE, WHO CAN BE THE BEST, UM, ADVOCATE RIGHT NOW FOR THE PROGRAM, THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN THE PROGRAM.

AND HE'S BEEN A MURALIST OVER 15 YEARS.

SO THEY'RE BOTH VERY THOUGHTFUL, UM, UM, ARTISTS AND I, THEY BOTH BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF PUBLIC ART AND THEY BOTH WANT TO SERVE, BUT IT WAS JUST THE FACT THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE, WHO CAN ADVOCATE FOR A PROGRAM THAT THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH AND THEY CAN TALK, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO THE EXPERIENCES OF WORKING FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THROUGH ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE NEEDS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR, OR, UM, I ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS ALL HAVE.

YEAH, BUT AMY HAS A COMMENT.

HMM.

UM, SO, UH, MAY I ASK, UM, ON THE PANEL LIST RIGHT NOW, THE PRESENT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING ON THE PANEL RIGHT NOW, UM, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE WHO CAN ADVOCATE, UM, LIKE JONATHAN WILL BE ADVOCATE? YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT I'M SEEING IS, IS, UH, IS THAT ANYBODY ON THE EXISTING PANEL THAT CAN DO, UM, WHAT JONATHAN CAN DO? UM, SO, UH, SO, SO I THINK, I THINK, UM, IN THE PAST WE HAVE SELECT PANELISTS, UM, I GUESS, WITH SIMILAR, UH, CATEGORY.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE THAT IS SPECIAL, THAT IS UNIQUE AND THAT WILL ENRICH THE PANEL.

SO, UH, SHOULD WE NOT PUTTING HER OFF, UH, WHEN THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER PANELISTS, THE EXISTING IS, CAN ALSO SERVE WHAT JONATHAN CANCER, UH, AMY I'M I'M, UH, I'M LOATHED TO GIVE A QUALITATIVE RESPONSE TO THAT.

I WANT TO, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST NOTE WHAT TAMMY SAID THAT, UM, THIS, THE ARTIST JAMIE ZACK HAS DONE A PERMANENT, OR IS ALMOST COMPLETE WITH A PERMANENT WORK, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PANEL THAT CAN DO THAT TO YOUR POINT.

WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANYBODY OF, UH, WHO SELF IDENTIFIES AS, UM, PART OF THE ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, I THINK I WOULD RATHER BRETT BE BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION AS FAR AS A QUALITATIVE RESPONSE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, SO THE QUESTION THAT WE WE ASK OR THAT WE HAVE ASKED OVER THE YEARS, OR WHEN RECRUITING NEW MEMBERS IS WHAT COMMUNITIES DO YOU THINK, UM, YOU HAVE SORT OF ENTREE

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TO, HOW WOULD YOU USE YOUR POSITION TO HELP, UM, RAISE THE PROFILE OF AIPP, UM, IN YOUR COMMUNITIES? AND, UM, I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO ON THE PANEL THAT HAVE INDICATED, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LATINO, UM, OR LATIN X.

UM, I DON'T THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS SOMEBODY PLUGGING INTO THE COMMUNITIES OF YOUTH THAT, THAT JAY HAS AVAILABLE TO.

UM, OF COURSE, UM, HEY, BEING A WORKING ARTIST, UM, ALSO, UM, PLAYS TO HIS BENEFIT.

UM, BUT AS YOU SAID, THERE IS NOT SOMEBODY ON THE PANEL THAT IS, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ASIAN COMMUNITY.

MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THAT WAS BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN AWAY BECAUSE THERE WERE SOUTHERN.

UM, SO, UH, OTHER SORT OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE FILL IN, IT WAS, I COULD START TO WORK AT BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, BECAUSE SHE HAS NOT BEEN SORT OF IN OUR COMMUNITY OR IN THOSE CIRCLES.

SO, UM, IT, TO ME, WASN'T AN IMMEDIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SORT OF IN AN IMMEDIATE WAY.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THE PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE PROGRAM, BOTH WITH PERMANENT, WITH TEMPO, UM, AND HAVING THE EXPERIENCE OF DEALING WITH THAT, BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO, UM, CANDIDATES IN FRONT OF US ABOUT SORT OF THOSE ISSUES TO ME ALWAYS IS A BENEFIT BECAUSE, UM, IT CAN BE VERY UNIQUE, SO, HMM.

SO, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY FLORES FIRST, AND THEN YOU MARK.

OKAY.

YOU'RE MUTED.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION CAUSE I WAS TRYING TO FLIP BACK AND FORTH AND SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION WAS WITH.

IT'S BEEN TIME.

I READ IT.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU BRETT OR SUE, TELL ME WHAT THE FINAL, UH, VOTE RECOMMENDATION WAS.

CAUSE I'M, I THINK I'M HEARING THAT MAYBE HE FELT THAT, UH, THE EXPERIENCE, UH, ON SEVERAL LEVELS IN THAT FOOT MUZAK OVER THE TOP FOR THEM, THAT THEY FELT THAT THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WOULD BE COMPLIMENTARY TO WHAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY ON THE PANEL AND WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP OUT IN THAT WAY.

AM I, DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? AND CAN YOU ALSO TELL ME WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE VOTE WAS OR THE, SO THERE'S THREE COMMISSIONER BARNES.

OH, A MOMENT, PLEASE.

SUE.

I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ANSWER, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES'S QUESTION, UM, ADDRESSING WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS COMING OUT THE COMMITTEE, BUT ALSO GO BACK AND KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S A VACANCY AND SORT OF WHAT THE GOALS ARE FOR AIPP PANEL OR FOR AIPP THE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND THE RIGHT, UH, NOMINEE.

UM, SURE.

SO, UM, UM, JUST VERY QUICKLY THE VOTE WAS, UM, TO, FOR J MUZAK AS THE SELECTED, UM, AIPP PANEL MEMBER AND, UM, TWO FOR ELAINE SHANNON AS THE ALTERNATE AND THEN ONE FOR ELAINE SHANNON AS THE, UM, PANEL MEMBER TO BE CHOSEN AND THEN TWO FOR OUR, YEAH.

TO VIRGINIA MUZAK, UM, AS THE UPDATE.

YEAH.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE, THE INTENT, THE REASON THAT WE HAVE A VACANCY IS THAT, UM, FORMER CHAIR, UM, CHRIS MCCRAY HAS, UH, WAS, UH, DONE WITH ALL OF HIS POTENTIAL, UM, TERMS. HE, HE SERVED THREE TERMS AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE LIMIT ACCORDING TO THE AIPP ORDINANCE.

AND SO HE, UH, RETIRED FROM HIS POSITION IN MAY.

HE WAS, UM, VERY, UH, MUCH AN ADVOCATE FROM MURALS AND, UM, HE, HIS GUIDANCE AND HIS LEADERSHIP LED US TO WORKING UP THE TWO D THE TEMPO DUTY

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PROGRAM.

AND, UM, AND Y'ALL, UH, WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, DEFINITELY IS SEEKING AN ARTIST TO FILL THIS ROLE.

THIS IS AN ARTIST ROLE VERSUS THAT OF A DESIGN PROFESSIONAL.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THOSE SORT OF THE PARAMETERS AROUND WHICH THIS, UM, THIS COMMITTEE STARTED THEIR SEARCH, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID, IT WAS A VERY LONG PROCESS OF FINDING PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN WILLING TO COMMIT TO THIS.

AT THIS TIME, IT WAS KIND OF AN UNFORTUNATE TIME.

EVERYBODY WAS UNSURE OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.

AND IT WAS HARD TO FIND CANDIDATES THAT WERE WILLING, BUT, UM, WE HAD FOUR GREAT PEOPLE STEP UP.

AND, UM, THE, THE FINAL RESULT IS THAT THE TWO THERE BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.

HMM, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER MOCK, YOU HAD A COMMENT.

YES.

UM, I JUST, I JUST WANT AS TO STAT THINKING ABOUT NOW, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, EXPENSE, UM, THE, THE PANEL, UM, TO HAVE MORE DIVERSITY IN IT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN FOLLOW THE TRADITIONAL WAY, YOU KNOW? UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY THINKING IS FOR US TO EXPAND OUR, UM, OUTREACH OR RECRUITMENT, UM, TO THE UNDERREPRESENTED, UH, COMMUNITY ASIAN COMMUNITY, WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOOKED LIKE US, YOU KNOW, TO, TO INSPIRE, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE PEOPLE TO BE MORE WILLING TO CONNECT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AIPP COMMUNITY.

SO I, I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE FIRST, WE HAVE A VACANCY, AND THEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, UM, THAT WE HAVE A, A, A, UH, WELL-EDUCATED ARTIST.

SHE HAS SOME SOLO EXHIBITIONS, YOU HAVE GROUP EXHIBITION, SHE STEPPED IN THE NEED OF AN ARTIST AND A DESIGNER, AND SHE'S WORKING FOR ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS. SO, UM, AND I THINK, UM, SHE CAN ALSO REACH OUT, YOU KNOW, TO THE YOUTH COMMUNITY, UH, GIVE IT IS REQUIRED.

UM, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I THINK SHE CAN DO, UH, BOTH WHAT JONATHAN CAN DO, YOU KNOW, TO REACH OUT TO THE, UH, YOUTH COMMUNITY, AND ALSO TO THE ASIAN COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MY THINKING.

SO I'M ASKING COMMISSIONERS TO MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR US TO THINK OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, OF THE TRADITIONAL THINKING AND, UM, TO EMBRACE, YOU KNOW, UM, DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THIS AIPP, UH, PROCESS, STARTING FROM APPOINTING, UM, A CANDIDATE WHO REPRESENT THE UNDERSERVING OR UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY.

SO I REST MY CASE.

I LET YOU DECIDE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCQUEEN.

WE HEAR YOU EARLIER.

YEAH, WE DID ASK COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING IN AND OUT AND ECHOING.

LIKE, DO YOU WANT TO TRY, TRY THE PHONE LINE? DO YOU WANT EMORY TO SEND THAT TO YOU? CAN'T HEAR YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARZA.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

DO YOU WANT THE PHONE LINE FROM ANNE MARIE?

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MARIE, CAN YOU PLEASE SEND THAT? AND WHILE HE'S GETTING THAT PHONE LINE, I'M SENDING IT NOW.

HOPEFULLY I DON'T COVER WHAT COMMISSIONER GARZA WAS GOING TO SAY.

UM, BUT I DID WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, I, I DID SERVE ON ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL.

UM, FOR SIX YEARS, I ALSO DID MY, MY THREE YEAR THREE MAX THREE TERMS MAXED OUT.

UM, AND BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DID TAKE ME TWO TIMES TO APPLY IN ORDER TO BE ON THE PANEL.

SO I DIDN'T GET IN ON THE FIRST TIME I, I WAS, YOU KNOW, PASSED UP AND THEN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AROSE AND I WAS ABLE TO APPLY AGAIN.

SO, AND THEN AT THAT SECOND TIME, I WAS ABLE TO, TO JOIN THE PANEL.

UM, I HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER MACH.

YES, WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT AND ENGAGE, MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR BODIES REFLECT THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY, THE DEMOGRAPHICS.

IN FACT, AS I WAS LOOKING OVER THE ANNUAL REVIEW, I WENT TO THE, UM, TO THE CODE SECTION THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THE ARTS COMMISSIONS TO DO.

AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS THAT OUR BODIES SHOULD REFLECT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY.

SO THERE WERE ALIGNED, UM, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO SAY THIS, BUT IT IS ON MY MIND.

AND I DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT IT TO COME OFF AS TOKENISM.

I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT A CANDIDATE JUST BECAUSE THEY FIT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CHECK OFF THE BOX.

RIGHT.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, AT THE BEGINNING, IT WAS LIKE THE, WE, WE HAVE TWO GREAT CANDIDATES.

UM, THEY WOULD BOTH DO WELL IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE I DO KNOW BOTH OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE HERE IN AUSTIN.

UM, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT EITHER ONE OF THEM WILL DO WELL ON THE PANEL.

UM, BUT IT REALLY DOES.

I THINK IT DOES COME DOWN TO, UH, JONATHAN'S CURRENT EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? HE HAS A, A COMMISSION THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING ON.

HE'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS.

HE UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND HE COULD CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO, TO POTENTIAL APPLICANTS.

HE CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, HELP BRIDGE THOSE GAPS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT PEOPLE VIEW AS THE CITY AND ACTUAL ARTISTS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S WHERE, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.

IT'S NOT ABOUT NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT PASSING UP ELAINE, BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE HER.

YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST LIKE THIS LIKE TINY, YOU KNOW, ONE ADDITIONAL POINT THAT THAT PUTS JONATHAN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

IS THAT A WRITER? WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

YOU'RE NOT ECHOING.

THE ONLY THING YOU REALLY WANT IS, OH, YOU ARE ECHOING STAR.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL TRY IT AGAIN.

HOLD ON MY COMPUTER OFF AND ON.

I TRY ON JESUS CHRIST.

YOUR VOICE SOUNDS GOOD.

NOW, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING, ARE YOU STILL THERE? COMMISSIONER GARZA? I REALLY HATE TO CUT COMMISSIONER GARS OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I THINK IN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

UM, SO WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION.

WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE VACANCY IS.

IS THERE, UH, COMMISSIONER BARNES? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UM, WE GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF JAY MUSIC AS THE, WITH ELAINE AS THE ALTERNATE.

IT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE VACANCY NOMINATION.

ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEES, A RECOMMENDATION OF J MUZAK IS PRIMARY AND ELAINE IS SECONDARY OR ALTERNATE SECONDED BY POLGAR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GARZA.

I'M ON THE PHONE THOUGH.

IF YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, CAN YOU MOVE AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER? THE ONLY THING, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE I

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WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I HEARD THE BREAKFAST THING, A PERSON THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, HAD A LOT OF CONNECTIONS TO THE PLACES PROCESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHATNOT.

AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OF THE MAIN PUSHBACKS THAT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD FROM RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE WE HAVE A BIG, UH, REBECCA MENTIONED IT SEVERAL TIMES AS WE ALWAYS KEEP GETTING THE SAME FOLKS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO IT JUST FEELS KIND OF WEIRD THAT I'M THE ONE HAND, THE FACT THAT THIS GUY KNOWS EVERYONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS, IS A POSITIVE.

WAS THE OTHER HAND, I KEEP HEARING THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE PROBLEM, BUT WE KEEP HEARING THIS OVER AND OVER.

AND SO THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN RIGHT THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SAY ONE THING AND I MEAN, IT MEANS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE DONE THE SAME FOLKS, THE SAME KIND OF ARTISTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE SAME CONNECTIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE RECOMMENDING SOMEONE WHO BASICALLY REFLECTS THAT SAME CONCERN THAT WE FREQUENTLY HAVE.

SO THAT WAS MY MAIN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE STILL TRYING TO CONNECT WITH YOUR HEARD US, BUT WE, WE MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE.

THERE WAS A SECOND AND WE WERE ABOUT TO VOTE, BUT I OPENED IT BACK UP FOR, OR OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION.

SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, IN THAT CASE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.

WAS THAT SOMEBODY? YEAH.

THAT'S TAMMY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, WHAT GARCIA SAID.

UM, ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM, UM, JAY, EVEN CONCERNING MYSELF, WHO I'M ALSO A PROFESSOR, I'M A PROFESSOR AND, UH, ELAINE WHO ALSO TAUGHT AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL IS THAT JAY WORKS WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS.

SO THAT WAS, UH, AN ACCESS TO YOUTH, BUT I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO.

AND THAT NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY HAS, UM, ON THE CURRENT PANEL HAS AS MUCH ACCESS TO IS, UM, THE, LIKE THE GENERATIONS THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP NEXT.

RIGHT.

SO AS WE THINK FORWARD ABOUT WHO COULD BE APPLYING TO TEMPO, THEY CURRENTLY COULD BE IN HIGH SCHOOL NOW.

RIGHT.

LIKE, AND SO THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING IS THAT HE HAS THIS DEMOGRAPHIC TO HIGH SCHOOLERS WHERE, UM, THE OTHER EDUCATIONAL APP, UH, YOU KNOW, NOMINEES, I MEAN, EVEN OTHER PANELISTS WE'RE DEALING WITH COLLEGE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

POLVAR BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

UM, I KNOW THAT PIECE ROTATION.

UM, WHEN IS THE CURRENT NEXT, UH, OPENING ANTICIPATED? HI, THIS IS SUE AGAIN.

UM, ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, PROGRAM MANAGER.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER OPENING.

THAT'S WHAT I RECALL FROM THE ROSTER.

THEY DON'T HAVE IT OPEN IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR.

AND THAT IS ABOUT HOW LONG IT TOOK ME BETWEEN MY TWO INTERVIEWS.

SO, UM, SO HAVING ALL THAT DISCUSSION, WE'RE VOTING ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE OF JAY MUSIC AS THE PRIMARY AND ELAINE AS THE, UH, ELATION AS THE ALTERNATE, ALL IN FAVOR, UH, KEON BARNS, ZISMAN FLORES, WHOLE GAR, UM, GARZA.

YOU'RE NOT ON THE SCREEN, SO I'D, I'D NEED A VERBAL FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR, OR AGAINST YOUR AGAINST.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S AN AGAINST FROM GARZA AGAINST, FROM MOC, UH, AGAINST, FROM FANTE COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE.

ARE YOU, IS YOUR SCREEN FROZEN? NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE THERE, BUT I CAN'T SEE CAUSE BLURRY.

JUST GIVE ME A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS UP.

OH, YOU'RE ACCUSING.

OKAY.

SO THAT WAS A THREE AGAINST ONE, TWO, THREE,