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[00:00:03]

IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR CAMERA IS OFF.

WE DON'T SEE YOU, BUT YOU CAN ADJUST THE VIEW.

SO I KNOW I HAD TO GO TO THE GRID VIEW INSTEAD OF SPEAKER VIEW.

I'M GOING TO TRY REJOINING BECAUSE IT SAYS THE CAMERA IS ON AND I CAN SEE THE CAMERA.

MY PART IS GREEN, BUT I'VE JUST GOT LETTERS FOR EACH ASKED BY WITH MY LITTLE, UH, UH, COOL.

SO GRANDMA'S GOING TO TRY TO COME BACK IN ONCE HE GETS BACK IN WE'LL WE'LL START IT UP.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED THEN.

OKAY, AWESOME.

[CALL TO ORDER]

SO I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS SPECIAL CALLED MEETING AT THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION.

TODAY IS JULY 22ND AND WE ARE MEETING REMOTELY.

SO WITH THAT, WE CAN START WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP.

WE'LL START OUT WITH MR. PAT.

BOOKTA.

HI GUYS.

I'M ASHLEY.

HI EVERYONE.

A GOOD DAY.

I'M ACTUALLY SIGNED UP THIS WEEK ON A FEW WAY, BUT I CAN JUST DO THAT.

NOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD PREFER, WELL, THIS IS THE ONLY, UM, PART WHERE WE HAVE SYSTEMS COMMUNICATION SCHEDULED.

SO VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW.

THANK YOU.

UH, WELL, I WANT TO START BY THANKING OUR CITY LEADERS, EDD STAFF, UH, IN THE ATX MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION FOR IN IMPLEMENTING THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

UH, WE HAVE NOW HEARD FROM DOZENS OF MUSICIANS OVER THE PAST WEEK, UH, WHO WERE ELATED TO HAVE RECEIVED THE AMD RF GRANTS.

SO PLEASE KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY APPRECIATES ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

UH, WE'VE ALSO HEARD FEEDBACK THAT SUGGESTS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AS YOU HAVE ALL BEEN MADE AWARE OF.

UM, MANY OF OUR INITIAL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED IN THAT REPORT PROFIT BY EDD LAST YEAR DATA ON AWARDEES AND SUPPORT FOR A SECOND ROUND, UH, ROUND OF FUNDING.

UM, SO I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR MUSICIANS AND, UM, COLLABORATE ON ENSURING A SUCCESSFUL SECOND ROUND.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS EASY SOFTBALL.

UH, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE BIG QUESTION WITHIN OUR NEW MUSIC COMMUNITY IS WHEN WILL THAT SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING BE ANNOUNCED.

AND WHEN WILL THAT THOSE APPLICATIONS BE OPEN, NUMBER TWO, WILL EDD MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT CRITERIA.

SOME MORE MUSICIANS CAN APPLY.

UM, AND UNDER THAT HEADING, UH, LET'S TALK REAL QUICKLY ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, UH, THE DISQUALIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE PRE OF A PREVIOUS MUSIC CARES GRANT.

NOW FUNDS FROM MUSIC HEARS, WERE DERIVED FROM DONATIONS TO THAT NONPROFIT.

WHEREAS AMD RF FUNDS ARE FROM A WHOLLY DIFFERENT BUCKET OF MONEY, UH, FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO WE REQUEST THAT THE CITY REMOVED THAT QUALIFIER.

SO MUSICIANS, UH, MAY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING THEY NEED.

UH, NUMBER TWO, THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS TO SHOW BANK STATEMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN WITHIN OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY THAT THIS INFORMATION COULD BE SHARED WITH A THIRD PARTY AS IS APPARENTLY STATED WITHIN THE APPLICATION AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE OF MUSICIAN SHOWS THAT MORE THAN TWO MONTHS WORTH OF SAVINGS CURRENTLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

UH, OUR MUSIC AND SOUND, THIS REQUIREMENT TO BE EXTREMELY INVASIVE AND MANY VOICES THAT THEY SIMPLY WOULD NOT APPLY FOR FEAR OF RISKING THEIR PRIVATE BANKING INFORMATION TO A THIRD PARTY VENDOR.

NOW, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

LET'S PLEASE CLARIFY THAT.

SO WE CAN AVOID CONFUSION WITHIN OUR MUSICIANS, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ONE MORE OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS REQUIREMENT.

NOW, MEANING MUSICIANS CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS YET.

THEIR WORK IS PRIMARY WILL BE BASED HERE TO THESE MUSICIANS NEED PENALIZE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

IF THE GOAL OF THIS FUND IS TO SERVE THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK

[00:05:01]

OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS, TO MUSICIANS WHO BRING SO MUCH TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, UH, UH, ANY MUSICIAN, UH, MANY MUSICIANS IN OUR GROUP RECEIVE REJECTION LETTERS, BUT NO REASON FOR REJECTION NOW AT THE CITY HAS THAT DATA.

WHY WERE THEY NOT GIVEN THIS INFORMATION A REASON BEING HERE THAT IF THERE IS A SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING, MUSICIANS NEED TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE UNABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THE FIRST ROUND, IF MUSICIANS MADE MISTAKES OR SUBMIT INCOMPLETE APPS, THEY SHOULD INDEED BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO CORRECT THOSE ERRORS ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL APPLICATION.

I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME, SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MUTED.

SORRY ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK OF TODAY, IT WOULD BE CAT CLEMENS.

ALRIGHT.

HEY, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I'M A WORKING MUSICIAN IN TOWN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC KIT.

I WORKED ABOUT FIVE TO EIGHT NIGHTS A WEEK IN TOWN, AND I THINK I'M PRETTY TYPICAL AS FAR AS YOUR AVERAGE WORKING MUSICIAN.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT PAT SAID.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS BEING THE IN TOWN RESTRICTION ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, UH, I MEAN A LARGE, LARGE PORTION OF THE MUSICIANS THAT I KNOW WHO ARE IN A SIMILAR PLACE TO ME.

I LIVE IN SOUTH BOSTON, BUT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLAYING EVERY SINGLE NIGHT IN AUSTIN CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN AUSTIN, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT.

BUT, UM, THAT'S, I MEAN THAT RESTRICTION, IT SEEMS LIKE SHOULD BE LISTED IMMEDIATELY.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS, UM, THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT'S BEING DONE.

THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLAR GRANT, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO SAY THAT WORK WON'T CONTINUE AS NORMAL FOR MUSICIANS UNTIL 2021.

UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF MORE LONGTERM PLANS BEING PUT IN PLACE TO HELP MUSICIANS, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THERE'S LONG, MORE LONGTERM PLANS BEING PUT IN PLACE TO HELP VENUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE SMALL BUSINESSES, JUST THE SAME AS THEM.

UH, WE WERE GOING TO NEED THAT SAME KIND OF ASSISTANCE.

IF I, I CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY IN THIS TOWN, I HAVE TO LEAVE.

AND THAT'S THE SAME WITH A LOT OF MUSICIANS.

UM, AND, UH, I ALSO JUST, JUST AS A FINAL NOTE, JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO VOICE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT STARTING A BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND AS WELL.

AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THAT.

AND, UH, AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH AGAIN FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND LETTING SOME OF THE WORKING MUSICIANS CONCERNS BE HEARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION FOR TODAY.

AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL DO A QUICK

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

KIM HAS ALREADY SENT OUT THE LAST MEETING'S MINUTES FROM JULY 6TH, SO EVERYBODY CAN JUST TAKE A BRIEF SECOND TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND OF SECOND FROM, FROM SHOCKOE, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

AND WITH THAT, WE CAN GO RIGHT

[2.a. Update on Music Disaster Relief Fund by Stephanie Bergara, Artist and Industry Development, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]

INTO, UM, B STAFF BRIEFINGS TO A UPDATE ON MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND BY STEPHANIE BERGARA ARTISTS, INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT, MUSIC, AND ENTERTAINMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

NO, CAN'T HEAR YOU, UNFORTUNATELY.

HEY EVERYBODY, I HAVE TIFFANY ON THE PHONE, HE'S HAVING AUDIO ISSUES.

SO I'M GOING TO PUT HER UP TO THE SPEAKER.

WAIT, HOLD ON.

I APOLOGIZE.

CAN YOU TURN DOWN, STEPHANIE, CAN YOU TURN DOWN THERE'S FEEDBACK ON YOUR END? SO IF YOU COULD TURN DOWN ATX IN OR ANY OTHER AUDIO FOR YOU? YEAH.

IS THAT BETTER? GREAT.

OKAY.

SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE, THEN YOU HAVE THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND APPLICATION.

THE FIRST ROUND OF THIS PROGRAM CLOSED, UH, JUNE 26 AND TOTALLY RECEIVED 838 APPLICATIONS, 743 OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE APPROVED.

95%, 95 OF THE APPLICANTS WERE INELIGIBLE.

[00:10:02]

AND THE BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT IS THE BREAKDOWN IS 55 OF THOSE MUSICIANS THAT ALREADY RECEIVED THE MUSIC.

HERE'S WHERE THE LEASE PAYMENTS.

30 APPLICANTS DID NOT RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR WHO APPLIED WERE NOT PERFORMING MUSICIANS FOR MUSICIANS WERE NOT APPROVED BY MUSIC CARES.

AND THE CITY OF BOSTON AFTER MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS, WEREN'T ABLE TO REACH THESE APPLICANTS FOR A FOLLOWUP.

IT'S MORE OF THEM TO FOLKS.

MOST OF THE APPLICATION DEADLINE AND TWO MUSICIANS, UH, SEND THEIR APPLICATIONS TWICE AND THEY WERE EVENTUALLY APPROVED.

SO, UH, OF NODES.

SO ALSO 19 APPLICANTS WHO WERE APPROVED WERE NOT THROUGH THE AUSTIN MUSIC PROGRAM.

UH, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE ACTUALLY NOT BASED WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO MUSIC, IT DIDN'T COUNT TOWARDS THE CITY OF BOSTON FUNDING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, AND TOTAL 724 AWARDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO AUSTIN MUSICIANS FOR THE MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, UH, TO DATE.

AND I WILL, UH, LET ERICA ELABORATE ON NEXT STEPS, FEDERAL TO WHAT FUNDING, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FROM HERE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, LET EVERYBODY, ERIC, A FAMILY MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

UM, WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION UP TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE DATA, BUT I'M NOT SURE KIM, IF I'M SUPPOSED TO SHARE MY SCREEN FOR THESE UPDATES, THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME CONNECTION ISSUES.

UM, ERICA, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN.

I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE ON THE SCREEN WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO TO A CTM YESTERDAY.

OH, I SEE.

OKAY.

WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE COPIES THEN COMMISSIONERS OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE OVERVIEW THAT STEPHANIE JUST GAVE AND WE WILL BE POSTING THEM ALSO SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE, UH, AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE, I THINK BY THE END OF BUSINESS.

SO, UM, AS STEPHANIE SAID, THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER FOR PHASE TWO FOR THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, LISTENING, COLLECTING THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

AND WE ARE LAUNCHING IT IN TANDEM WITH THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING, INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT FOR CREATIVES, WHICH WILL BE COMING IN FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.

SO, UM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ALSO APPLY FOR THAT FUND.

UH, THERE'S A TOTAL AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INDIVIDUAL CREATIVES AND MUSICIANS.

UM, AND SO IT WILL BE A CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF, UM, BEING ABLE TO APPLY TO THIS FUND AS WELL.

UH, SO WE WILL BE LAUNCHING THAT IN TANDEM AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF LINING UP TO FOR THE NEXT ROUND, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON A BIGGER, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLK LIKE, UH, A BIGGER SECTOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SECTORS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL WORKERS WITHIN THE SECTORS, THE CREATIVE SECTORS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT.

SO THAT SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

AND MUSIC CARES.

WE'LL DO THE MUSICIAN PORTION OF THIS, UM, AS THEY HAVE BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVING CHECKS ALREADY.

UH, SO WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNKEY SIT, UH, SITUATION WITH MUSIC CARE.

SO, UM, AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THE SPACE TOO, AND WE'LL ADJUST WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE'RE IN PARODY WITH THE, UH, OVERALL PROGRAM FOR CREATIVES AT ANY, JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOADED SCHEDULE, SO KIM CAN GIVE HER UPDATE NEXT, JUST QUICKLY.

UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE BEING RELUCTANT WITH THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY INVOLVED IN WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS? SO THAT WAS JUST ON THE FINAL PAGE OF JUST KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, LEGALEES, YOU KNOW, OF SIGNING OFF ON THINGS AND THE THIRD PARTY, THAT'S A MUSIC CARES COMPONENT, AND IF I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I'M, I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE, THE AREA WHERE THE THIRD PARTY IS THE CITY THAT'S, WHO'S GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

AND SO, UH, BANK STATEMENTS, ANY KIND OF PERSONAL INFORMATION IS NOT BEING SHARED WITH ANYBODY.

THAT INFORMATION IS NOT KEPT.

IT IS NOT STORED.

AND IN FACT, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BLACK OUT THEIR ACCOUNT NUMBERS WHEN THEY SEND IT OVER.

WE JUST NEEDED TO SEE PROOF OF LIKE IN THE TOTALS AND LIKE KIND OF THE, ITEMIZATIONS NOT IN THE PERSONAL DETAILS, THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT USED WHATSOEVER.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EXPLAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO ALONG FOR THE NEXT ROUNDS OF THE TYPES OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE FUNDS AND JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS AND SO THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE OTHER PROGRAMS WILL BE COMING DOWN THE PIPE THAT WILL ASK THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

GREAT.

I JUST WANT TO A QUICK SECOND TO CLARIFY THAT FOR FOLKS, CAUSE IT WAS NOT CLEAR IN THE FIRST ROUND TO PEOPLE.

UM, AWESOME.

ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS THROUGH ANYBODY?

[00:15:01]

YEAH.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, ERICA.

SO WHORE WERE MUSICIANS NOTIFIED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR DID THEY JUST GET A CHECK IN THE MAIL? LIKE NO, THEY WERE NOTIFIED, THERE WERE THREE EMAILS THAT WENT OUT AS WELL AS CASE MANAGER.

IT COULD BE CASE MANAGEMENT FOR ANY INDIVIDUALS WHERE WE NEED A CLARIFICATION.

I MEAN, THERE WERE INSTANCES WHERE THERE WERE OBVIOUS MISTAKES AND NEVER WANT TO DECLINE SOMEBODY JUST BASED ON A MISTAKE THAT WE CAN SEE.

SO STEPHANIE REGARDLESS SPENT, UH, MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS AT CASE MANAGING EACH INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION.

AND SO THERE WAS JUST ONLY FOUR THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THE SECOND ROUND TO, UH, SOUND ENGINEERS, LIGHTING DESIGNERS AND THE TECH COMMUNITY? YES.

SO THE CREATE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN TANDEM WITH THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING FOR CREATIVES THAT IS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS BY ORDINANCES, THE REMAINING FUNDS HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON MUSICIANS.

AND SO MUSIC CARES WILL HELP FACILITATE THE OVERALL GRANT FOR CREATIVE.

SO FACILITATE IT SPECIFICALLY FOR MUSICIANS AND MUSICIANS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY ELIGIBLE THERE.

IT CAN ALSO APPLY TO THIS KIND OF SISTER FUND.

SO, UM, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE WILL JUST DEDICATE IT TO MUSICIANS AS DIRECTED, BUT THE REST OF THE FUND WILL BE OPEN TO INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE CREATIVE INDUSTRIES.

UH, CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY, UH, IS THEY'VE BEEN HIT LIKE ASTRONOMICALLY BY THIS PANDEMIC.

ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO FOLLOW UP IS ANYONE WHO DOES NOT CASH THEIR CHECK? I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S A CRISIS GOING ON.

PEOPLE MOVE, PEOPLE MAY LOSE INTERNET ACCESS, WHATEVER.

IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR EVERY, EVERY CHECK OR PAYMENT THAT GETS DISBURSED THAT? YEAH, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE MUSIC CARES PROCESS.

UM, THEY HAVE A BANK THAT THEY WORK WITH CONSISTENTLY ON ALL OF THEIR GRANTS AND UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO CHECK WITH THEM ON WHAT THEIR OFFICIAL PROCESS IS, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE A PROCESS FOR ANY KIND OF UNCLAIMED CHECKS.

OH WAIT, HERE.

IT'S DEFINITELY HAS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH MAKING SURE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO CALLS AND PEOPLE GETTING CHECKS, REDIRECTING THEM TO NEW ADDRESSES.

THEY HAVE A DEDICATED EMAIL THAT THEY'RE SENDING OUT.

ANYBODY CAN USE A REISSUE FOR.

YEAH.

THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO BE PAPER CHECKS IS, AND THAT IS ALSO AN EQUITY ISSUE.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS A BANK ACCOUNT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY USE THE POSTAL SERVICE AND THEY DO PAPER CHECKS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE IN CASE IT GETS LOST IN THE MAIL.

CAN WE GET A REPORT BACK SAYING ONE MONTH, UH, OF ANYONE WHO HASN'T CASHED CHECKS? I MEAN, I REALIZE THEY HAVE A PROCESS, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED IF WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST CASTRO.

YEAH.

WE'LL CHECK IN WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A POSTAL SERVICE AND EVERYONE'S GETTING CHECKED ON DIFFERENT DAYS.

I KNOW I'VE ALREADY GONE OUT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST REDIRECTED TO A DIFFERENT MAILING ADDRESS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF NAVIGATING OUR WAY.

YEAH.

I WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS PROUD FOR, UH, FOR WORKING ON THAT AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CRITIQUES.

I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S REAL PEOPLE BEHIND THIS THAT REALLY CARE, UM, ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE MONEY GETS OUT THERE TO THEM.

NOBODY'S TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM RECEIVING MONEY.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE FACT THAT 734 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THIS THOUSAND DOLLAR CHECK IS, IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE SOME OF THE GRADUATES YOU GUYS ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU PROPS ON THAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.

GREAT.

FANTASTIC.

WE'LL GO TO

[2.b. Update on Creative Space Disaster Relief Program by Kim McCarson, Economic and Business Liaison, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]

TWO B UPDATE ON CREATESPACE DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAM, BUT KIM MCCARSON ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS LIAISON MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

AND EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

OKAY.

AM I, AM I, AM I NOT TO CON YEAH.

GREAT.

OKAY.

UH, SO

[00:20:01]

WE HAD 65 APPLICATIONS COMPLETED REPRESENTING $2,734,448.

UM, GRANTED THERE WAS ONLY $1 MILLION IN THIS FUND.

UM, SO TOTAL REQUESTS WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN WHAT WERE ALMOST $3 MILLION.

SO THE BREAKDOWN THERE IS THAT WE HAD 52 REQUESTS FOR RENT STIPEND, UH, REPRESENTING 2 MILLION, 147,448.

SO OVER $2 MILLION JUST ON RENT STIPEND, THEN WE HAD ANOTHER 13 APPLICATIONS FOR OTHER SPACE RELATED NEEDS, LIKE LEASEHOLD IMPROVEMENTS AND GAP FINANCING REPRESENTING $577,000.

UM, MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS.

THERE WERE 19 MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED 25% OF THOSE REQUESTING FUNDS, UM, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, THERE WERE 46 REPRESENTING 71% OF THE REQUEST.

UM, NONPROFITS WERE 27.

SO THERE WERE 27 NONPROFITS THAT, UH, SENT AN APPLICATION REPRESENTING 42% OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND 38 WERE FOR-PROFITS REPRESENTING 58%.

UM, TYPES OF FUNDING REQUESTED A RENT STIPEND OF COURSE WAS THE BIGGEST.

UH, THERE WERE 52 REQUESTS FOR RENT STIPEND AT 80% AND THERE WERE, UH, 12 REQUESTS, UH, FOR SPACE RELATED, UM, NEEDS LIKE LEASEHOLD IMPROVEMENTS AND ONE GAP FINANCING REQUEST.

THE NEXT STEPS.

WELL, THE JOINT WORKING GROUP, THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC WORKING GROUPS SELECTED FIVE PANELISTS.

THOSE PANELISTS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING AND DISCUSSING APPLICATIONS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY WILL MAKE, UM, THE AWARDS ONCE THE AWARD AMOUNTS ARE DECIDED, THEN THE AWARDS WILL BE ANNOUNCED AND THE CONTRACTS WILL BE IN CHECKS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.

ANY QUESTIONS WHO ARE THE FIVE PANELISTS? OKAY.

YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN REMEMBER ALL OF THEM.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THEIR NAMES IN FRONT OF ME, UM, AND, UH, UH, GRAMMAR ON THE JOINT GROUPS.

IF YOU CAN HELP ME, THERE WAS ANDREA MERCEDES PERRY.

UM, THERE WAS, UH, ELISA, I FORGET ELISA'S LAST NAME.

UM, AND HANG ON A SECOND, IF YOU WANT, I CAN PULL UP OVER THIS ALYSSA MCCAIN.

UM, KANE, THANKS.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, UM, UH, JACKIE, WHAT WAS JACKIE'S LAST NAME? SORRY, GUYS.

IT'S ALWAYS GET PUT ON THE SPOT WITH NAMES.

WE WOULD, OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE I NECESSARILY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME.

SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH MY EMAILS TO SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT IT'S SIMILAR, BUT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A REPRESENTATIVE POOL, UH, LIST TO HIM, UH, UH, AND WE ALL, ALL OF US, THE MICHELLE AND, UH, OTHERS ON THE ART SIDE AND I'M SHOCKED.

AND I CHUCK US A MINUTE TO, OR THE FIVE NAMES OR MAYBE IT WAS SUBMITTED THREE NAMES AND TWO OF THEM SAID, YES, BUT THERE'S A BANKING PERSON ON THERE.

THERE ARE MUSIC PEOPLE ON THERE.

THEIR ARE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ON THERE, AND THERE'S A BROAD DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, UH, WITHIN THE FIVE.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT NOW WITH THAT MUCH MORE OF A NEED THAN FUNDS AVAILABLE? HOW ARE THOSE NOW PRIORITIZED? ALRIGHT.

UM, WELL THE, THE PANEL WILL PUT SCORES ON THE, UM, THE AMOUNTS, I MEAN, ON THE, UH, APPLICATIONS.

AND THEN ONCE AMOUNTS ARE GOING TO BE DETERMINED AS AMOUNTS WILL BE DETERMINED USING A MATRIX THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT, UH, THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION ALSO USES IN MAKING THEIR AWARD DETERMINATIONS.

AND, UM, ONCE, UH, ONCE THAT IS DETERMINED, THEN WE'LL BE MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT THE AWARDS.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE? FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU, KIM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE CAN

[3.a. Discussion and Possible Action on Black Lives Music Fund to repair and address historic neglect within the Austin music industry towards the Black Community.]

GO ON TO OLD BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD BE THREE, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BLACK LIVES MUSIC FUND TO REPAIR AND ADDRESS HISTORIC NEGLECT WITHIN THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY TOWARDS THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF START ON THAT ONE SHAKA AND KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT DISCUSSION.

[00:25:02]

UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED TO CREATE A SPACE, UH, FOR A DISCUSSION, A PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF WHAT I BROUGHT UP IN JUNE, UM, TO ATTEMPT TO REPAIR, UM, HISTORIC NEGLECT OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN, AND ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE AMOUNT OF WEALTH THAT HAS BEEN BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE, BLACK MUSIC, BLACK TALENT, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN REINVESTED IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THAT IS BASICALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL.

UM, I KNOW MARGIE'S HERE TO, TO HELP US KIND OF FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, REALLY DIDN'T, UM, UH, WE, AND WE FORMED A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP AS A MUSIC COMMISSION THAT, UH, WE MET LAST FRIDAY AND JUST HAD AN OVERALL, UM, INTRODUCTORY CONVERSATION.

AND WE'RE COMING BACK TO THE TABLE THIS FRIDAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING EVERY FRIDAY UNTIL WE KIND OF HAVE SOME MORE CONCRETE THINGS TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LIST OF HOMEWORK ITEMS THAT WE HAD TO BRING TO US ABOUT WHAT THE MISSION IS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ON FRIDAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA LEAN ON MARGIE TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE OR, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP GUIDE US IN THIS DISCUSSION.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE THE ONE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, DIRECTED, UM, UM, KIND OF THE INITIATOR AND JUST ONE THAT BELIEVES THAT THIS SHOULD HAPPEN STRONGLY AND, UH, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND THE COMMISSION SO FANTASTIC.

UM, AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM WITH MARGIE NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

WE WEREN'T SURE WHETHER TO SEPARATE THESE GOING FORWARD.

WOULD YOU PREFER THAT IT JUST BE ROLLED INTO ONE AGENDA ITEM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, I SEE THEM AS CONNECTED.

I CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE, I FEEL LIKE I SAID EVERYTHING THAT I NEED TO SAY, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO START HAVING A CONVERSATION.

I NEED TO HEAR MORE FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMISSION AND WHAT THEY THINK.

AND, AND SO HOWEVER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'VE, I'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING I NEED TO SAY IS DOCUMENTED BY SEEING THE VIDEO AND HEARD ME TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S KEY THAT WE STARTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A GROUP THAT WE HEAR FROM DOUG, THAT WE HEAR FROM LAUREN.

AND WE HEAR FROM PAUL THAT WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.

AND, AND WE START TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

HEY, I RECOMMENDED SOMEONE FOR THE, FOR THE WORKING GROUP.

I WENT THROUGH RICK, I GUESS, I GUESS IT DIDN'T GET THROUGH.

UH, BUT CAN I REQUEST SOMEONE TO, UH, JOIN THE WORKING GROUP? WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM TODAY BECAUSE THE WORKING GROUP STILL IS IN A VERY, VERY, VERY LIKE EMBRYONIC STAGE WHEN WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MEET A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE WE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING OTHER FOLKS IN.

SO I DEFINITELY GOT, GOT YOUR REQUEST AND I SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

I JUST DIDN'T PUSH IT FORWARD IN THIS MEETING.

I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THE WORKING GROUP ON FRIDAY, IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL JUST KIND OF PROCEED THAT WAY ON THAT.

AND THEN I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO KIND OF GET OUR FEET UNDERNEATH US AND GET KIND OF A STRATEGIC FOUNDATION GOING.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN BRING IN SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD TO ADVANCE THE CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK, UM, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, LOOKING TO ADD FOLKS.

AND SO I THINK MAYBE IF EVERYONE ELSE WANTS TO THINK ABOUT POSSIBLE ADDITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN PROBABLY BY OUR NEXT MEETING, I WOULD THINK EITHER THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER IT, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY OUR NEXT MEETING IS, UM, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TOGETHER AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO.

GREAT, GREAT, FANTASTIC.

DID ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS OR DO YOU WANT TO GUYS JUST ROLL INTO THREE B AND HAVE IT UNDER THAT GENERAL CONVERSATION? UH, IT DEPENDS, UH, UH, WHETHER, BECAUSE, UH, THIS ISN'T WRITTEN INTO THREE B, CAN WE ACTUALLY MERGE THEM INTO ONE THING? UH, SO THAT CAN BE A BROADER CONVERSATION, OR SHOULD WE ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO BLACKLINE MUSIC'S ON NOW BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WELL, I THINK PROBABLY JUST FOR PROCEDURE PROCEDURAL SENSE, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT NOW, BUT THEN MAYBE GOING FORWARD, WE INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE OTHER ITEM.

THAT WAY WE CAN ROLL THEM TOGETHER.

OKAY.

ONLY A SMALL, SMALL, BUT ALSO LARGE THOUGHT I HAD WAS THAT THE MORE DETAIL, THE MORE ROBUST THE THOROUGHLY THOUGHT OUT THIS PROPOSAL IS THE MORE LIKELY WE ARE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS THROUGH COUNCIL.

AND, UH, I THINK WE ALL FELT STRONGLY ABOUT, UM, THE BLACK LAB MUSIC FUND.

WE ALL

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ARE ALSO, UH, AT THE SAME, NOT, I REALIZE IT WANTS TO BE SPECIFIC AND CLEAR, UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESSING OTHER HISTORICAL DEBT.

SO I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, I THINK IF WE BRING BLACK, UH, BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN LONGTERM EQUITY PLAN, AND I'M CURIOUS TO TALK ABOUT THIS MARGIE, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW SO THAT IT CAN BE PART OF A BROAD PLAN.

UH, THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE THE PLAN IS, UH, WE WERE SETTING POTENTIALLY A PRECEDENT FOR A LONG TIME HERE AND THEN POTENTIALLY TRANSFORMATIVE WAY.

UM, AS LONG AS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE IT SPECIFIC, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OR OFTEN DOESN'T HAPPEN, OR THOSE FUNDS FIND THEMSELVES IN A NEW PLACE.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE PARALLEL CONVERSATIONS.

NOT THAT IT'S NOT EACH OF THESE CONVERSATIONS IS UNIQUE AND EVERY COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN OPPRESSED AS, AS THEIR OWN UNIQUE, UH, DEBT.

UM, BUT I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY PLAN WITH A BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT IS ROBUST DETAIL LAID OUT AND THINKING ABOUT THE LONGTERM FUTURE, UM, IS OUR BEST CHANCE OF MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO THE COMMUNITY AND SITTING IN THE LONGTERM.

SO TO ME, IT'S ALMOST TRYING TO REDEFINE IT AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH MARGIE FROM THE BEGINNING.

I AGREE.

I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING, UH, THAT THIS OWN UNIQUE FUND OR, CAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS CONVERSATION STEMMED FROM THE CONVERSATION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH WAS COMING FROM THE NEW HOT FUNDS.

SO, UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOT FUND MONEY OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON ITS OWN AND NOT WITH THE STRINGS THAT HOP FUNDS ARE PRESENTED? PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO TALK TO YOU THOUGH.

YEAH.

UM, I'M NOT ENTIRELY, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FLESHING OUT UNLESS WE'RE FIGURING OUT.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT POOL, BUT, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT COMES FROM THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS MOVING FORWARD, BUT THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT COME FROM THERE AND OTHER SOURCES THAT WE DON'T JUST LIMIT TO THAT FUND, UM, THAT IT ALSO COMES FROM OTHER SOURCES.

WELL, UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, IT'S HALF OF THIS, HALF OF THE FUNDS THAT THE, UH, THE PERCENTAGE TO ME ISN'T REALLY NECESSARILY TO THINK IT'S, IT'S IT'S, TO ME, IT'S ABOUT REPAIR IT'S ABOUT REPAIR.

SO IT SOUND LIKE WE'RE SAYING WE WANT HALF OF ALL THE MONEY THAT EVER COMES IN.

IT'S LIKE, NO, LIKE $750,000 SOUNDS OKAY.

AS A START TO ME, IF IT, IF IT WAS $3 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ASKED FOR ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, BUT TO ME IT JUST, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD STARTING POINT, A GOOD STARTING POINT NUMBER.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT LARGER RESPONSE ALLOWED RESPONSE TO, WELL, THERE ARE ONLY 8% OF THE POPULATION AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET HALF OF THE, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, IT REALLY WASN'T NECESSARILY ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF IT AS MUCH AS, UH, A, A NUMBER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE, YOU KNOW, 1.5 MILLION AND THAT WAS HALF OF IT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO START SOMEWHERE, UM, AND START THE COMPENSATION SOMEWHERE.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE STARTING.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST GO FROM HERE TO ME, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

WE TIE IT INTO THE CONTEXT THAT NOT ONLY IS DEPLETED FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY, UH, UH, BUT ALSO REQUIRES THINGS TO BE TIED TO TOURISM AND ALL.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS IMPORTANT WORK WHILE I THINK IT DOES IMPACT TOURISM GETS BLURRY OR EDGES OF WHAT THAT IS.

UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE THE ONES THAT SPECIFY WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

I WOULD SHOW WHAT IS THE PATH FORWARD TO WORK TOWARDS EQUITY? WHAT IS THE PATH FORWARD TO PUTTING MONEY DIRECTLY TOWARDS BLACK MUSIC? WHAT IS THE PATH? WHAT DOES THAT PLAN LOOK LIKE? BUT WE DON'T, AS FAR AS WHAT ARE THE NEEDS WATER, WHERE, WHERE WHERE'S THE HARM THEN DONE WHAT IT NEEDS REPAIRING, UH, AND, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FIGURING OUT WHAT THE MECHANISM FOR WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MONEY COMING FROM THE MOST STABLE PLACE POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PLACE IS, BUT A NUMBER THAT GOES UP AND DOWN EVERY YEAR IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PLAN AROUND.

UM, SO I HESITATE TO REC RECOMMEND

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THAT IT BE TIED TO THE HOT TEXT AT THE SAME TIME, SHOCK GOES, RIGHT.

THAT THERE IS THIS MONEY IT'S SPECIFIC MONEY THEN.

SO IT MAKES SENSE.

LIKE, LET'S GO AFTER MONEY, THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE.

AND SO YOU'RE REQUESTING SOMETHING I KNOW EXISTS AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO DO BOTH.

I THINK WE WANT THINGS SHORT TERM MONEY THAT EXISTS, BUT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.

SO WE DON'T LOOK BACK ON THE TIME WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE BLACK POPULATION LEAVING AUSTIN.

AND WE WERE AT THE PIVOT POINT WHERE THE LAST BLACK MUSICIANS LEFT DOWN.

WE WANT TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WE CREATED A ROADMAP WHERE BALANCE COULD BE, OR TOWARDS OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS.

SO I THINK WE'RE LOOKING SHORT AND VERY LONG TERM AT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH.

I THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE, UH, THE MORE, THE MORE PROGRAMS WE CAN IMPACT, THE MORE INDUSTRIES WE CAN IMPACT.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT IS THE GOLDEN KIND OF LIKE SILVER LINING OF THE PANDEMIC IS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN LAID BARE.

WE SEE WHERE THE INEQUITIES ARE.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE, BUT NOW THEY'RE UNDER A MAGNIFYING GLASS.

AND SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHILE THINGS ARE PAUSED TO TAKE A LOOK STRUCTURALLY, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO STRUCTURALLY CHANGE THINGS TOO.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN MUSIC, BLACK MUSICIANS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE BLACK TALENT BUYERS.

WE NEED TO SEE BLACK TEXTS.

UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT PUBLICISTS, ALL THE DIFFERENT JOBS IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ONLY BE PROMOTING INCLUSION FOR BLACK PERFORMERS.

IT SHOULD BE BLACK EVERYTHING.

AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT AT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS A STARTING POINT.

IT'S ALSO, AS GRAHAM SAID, A VERY SHAKY, VOLATILE FUNDING SOURCE, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT OUR TOURISM MONEY IS REALLY GOING TO BE CUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, WE SHOULD LOOK AT ANY POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SUSTAINABLE.

IT'S NOT JUST A ONE TIME PAYOUT EITHER.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE, I, THE CONCEPT OF REPARATIONS I THINK SHOULD FIGURE IN, BUT NOT IN THE SENSE OF, WELL, HERE IS THE MONEY NOW IT'S FIXED, CAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA FIX IT.

UH, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THINGS.

AND SO I, I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAN CREATE SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE THAT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS HELPING ONE, ONE PART OF THE COMMUNITY HELPS ALL THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S LIKE, IF, IF ANY OF US ARE SUFFERING, WE'RE ALL SUFFERING.

AND SO NOW IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SOME CHANGE.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ELSE AT THAT POINT.

WELL, I'LL JUST SUPPORT WHAT EVERYONE STAYED IN HERE.

AGAIN, SHAKA HAS LAID IT OUT THAT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TOURISM FUNDING, BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY SOLVENT, UH, I'LL ALSO STATE THAT IF THE MUSIC COMMISSION DOESN'T CREATE A MANDATE FOR THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OTHER ENTITY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL DO SO.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

IT'S ALREADY GOTTEN QUIET IN THREE WEEKS, UH, AS FAR AS SOCIAL MEDIA.

YEAH.

UM, BECAUSE THE, IT'S NOT THAT THE FORCES ARE AGAINST US IN THE INDUSTRY FOR EQUITY, AS MUCH AS EVERYONE'S IN A RECOVERY ZONE RIGHT NOW IN THE INDUSTRY, ALL THE SECTORS OF OUR INDUSTRY AND ARE IN A SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY.

I THINK WHAT OUR MUSIC COMMISSION CAN DO BASED ON SHOCK IS A LEAD IS CREATE, IS CONSTRUCT THE REBIRTH OF WHAT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY LOOKS LIKE IN 2022, BECAUSE AS WE'RE ALREADY HEARING 2021 POSSIBLY WILL BE A DEAD YEAR.

WE'RE HEARING THAT FROM LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK.

SO THAT GIVES US 18 MONTHS TO REBUILD A COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE RESOURCES AS FAR AS DOLLARS AND CENTS, UH, FEDERAL LOCAL STATE.

UM, BUT STILL THE MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS A LACK OF BLACK FACES IN VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND THAT WON'T CHANGE OVERNIGHT.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BULLSEYE AS MUSIC COMMISSIONERS TO ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

AND WE DO HAVE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS A BIT TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK THE WORK IS VERY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MARGIE BEING BROUGHT IN BY THE MUSIC MUSIC DIVISION.

UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK, UH, THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PUBLIC SECTOR WORKING TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL WILL BE CRITICAL.

AND THAT WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

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THANKS.

UH, I I'D LIKE TO, UM, FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT GRAHAM SAID, UH, WHEN HE SAID WE SHOULD GO AFTER STABLE SOURCES OF FUNDING, ONE SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT IS PRETTY STABLE, IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED UNTOUCHABLE IS PUBLIC SAFETY, MONEY, AND POLICE FUNDING IN PARTICULAR, WHICH WE ARE, WHICH WE KNOW OFTEN WORKS AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO SHOW THAT MUSIC MAKES PEOPLE SAFER, THAT'S A STABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE FIND WAYS OF SHOWING THAT AND MAKING THIS A SAFER COMMUNITY FOR EVERYBODY BY FUNDING MUSIC.

GREAT.

ANYONE ELSE? ONE MORE NOTE IS THAT THE, THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, UH, AND SUPPORT IS ALREADY A, CREATED A MATRIX, I BELIEVE.

AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT TOO.

UM, SO NOVIA AGAIN, WE WE'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR YEARS, BUT CULTURAL ARTS ALREADY HAS A BLACK ARTISTS GETTING MORE FUNDING THAN OTHER GROUPS.

SO LET'S REMEMBER THERE'S PRECEDENCE HERE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS.

IF THERE'S ALREADY A MATRIX IN PLACE, IS THAT RIGHT? SYLVIA, DO WE HAVE THAT RIGHT? A LOT OF GROUPS, DO YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL MARKETING SUPPLEMENT, BUT ALSO A MARGIE IS HELPING US RE ENVISION REIMAGINE A NEW CULTURAL FUNDING PROCESS BECAUSE IT TOO WILL BE SENT HER ON EQUITY.

AND SO THE TIMING IS RIGHT.

UM, AS OF TODAY, YES, WE USE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL MARKETING SUPPLEMENT, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE MOVING FORWARD.

SO I THINK THIS IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE WE WANT TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL OUR HOTEL OCCUPANT, LET'S SEE TAX FUNDED PROGRAMS. THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ANYONE ELSE? WELL THAT WE CAN

[3.b. Discussion and Possible Action following presentation by Margie Reese of MJR Partners on Roles and Goals for the Music Commission, Live Music Fund Working Group and City Staff.]

MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM.

THAT WOULD BE THREE, BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY MARGIE, REESE OF M J OUR PARTNERS ON ROLES AND GOALS FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP AND CITY STAFF.

SO HAND IT OVER TO MARGIE.

WOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ALREADY, JUST LISTENING AND TAKING NOTES ON THIS CONVERSATION.

SO I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SIT IN ON YOUR MEETING.

UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT, UH, TO THE IDEA THAT A IS SEPARATE FROM B ON PAPER COULD BE TRUE, BUT IN REALITY, UM, THESE TWO CONCEPTS ARE ATTACHED AT THE HIP.

THEY'RE JOINED AT THE HIP.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE, UM, THE IDEA OF THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, I THINK A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS ARTICULATED IT, UM, PRETTY WELL, GRAHAM AND GAVIN, THAT THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS TO ENVISION, RIGHT, IS TO ENVISION A SECTOR THAT IS HEALTHY, UH, TO IMAGINE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF, TO CREATE THE SYSTEM AND THE STRUCTURE FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

AND SO THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS YOU GUYS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I SAY GUYS, BUT YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY YOUR ROLE.

WOULD YOU HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS, HIGHER LEVEL THINKING CONVERSATION? WHAT DOES THE MUSIC INDUSTRY INDUSTRIES THAT SUPPORT MUSIC? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? AND WHAT'S OUR TIMEFRAME FOR THIS IMAGINARY IMAGINARY JOURNEY? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TODAY? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SAY IN FIVE YEARS AND WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE IN 10? SO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE COME TO THIS PLACE DURING THIS REALLY UNSTABLE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OMICS AND HEALTH AND ALL THAT, YOU'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ENVISION IS SPECIFIC ATTENTION, YOU AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIAN.

UM, SO I WANT TO START THERE AND ECHO THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THE, STAFF'S THE THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE PROCEDURES ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THIS VISION THAT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH.

UM, EVERYTHING FROM RISK MANAGEMENT TO LEGAL AND INSURANCE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS UP AND DOWN THE CITY HALL CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE THE STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT'S PUT TOGETHER CAN WITHSTAND THAT PROCESS.

BUT HERE'S THE THING I WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT

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TONIGHT.

TODAY IS THE BIG IDEA FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION GOING FORWARD.

WHEN I, WHEN I READ A FIRST ON THIS AGENDA, I THINK A IS A, IS A BURNING GOAL TO REPAIR AND ADDRESS HISTORIC NEGLECT.

THAT'S HUGE, THE HUGE CONCEPT, RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE WITH AN ACTION.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME SEQUENCING AND OVER TIME, WHAT ARE THE PILLARS AND GOALS THAT WILL LEAD US TO, TO GET INTO SOME SOLUTIONS ON THERE? SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDRESSING THE HISTORICAL NEGLECT, UM, AND REPAIRING THE HISTORICAL NEGLECT.

BUT HERE'S WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD ME IN THIS CONVERSATION.

AND MY FIRST QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE FOR US TO TIME OURSELVES, BUT TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS OF THE TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING TOGETHER AND WHAT YOU'VE SAID ALREADY IS THIS.

SO LET'S WORDSMITH THIS A LITTLE BIT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.

WOW.

I WROTE DOWN FROM YOUR OWN WORDS IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE BLACK MUSIC INDUSTRY, BLACK MUSICIANS, AND THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.

CAUSE I'M MIXING, YOU SAID YOU WANT TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS BLACK MUSICIANS AND THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN.

AND SOMEBODY RIPPED THAT APART FOR ME, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT.

AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY AS YOUR OVERALL GOAL? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THE, THE QUESTIONS AND THE BIG IDEA, UM, IN REALLY WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN OR NO? UM, YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT YOUR SLIDES ON THE SCREEN, BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO SHARE A SCREEN AND LIKE WRITE DOWN ALL THESE WORDS AND YOU KNOW, LIKE A MAGIC BOARD OR SOMETHING.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON THIS SYSTEM.

IF HE'S LIKE, WE DID SEND THE PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, THOUGH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT TO GO ON THE SCREEN AT ANY TIME, JUST SAY, OKAY, DID IT DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE THIS LIST, THE CONDITION? DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES THAT YOU SENT TO ME? WE DON'T NEED IT ON THE SCREEN.

I'M SORRY.

SO COMMISSIONERS THESE TWO, SIX, EIGHT BULLETS OVER TIME, I'VE LOST EVERYBODY NOW, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE WANT TO SPEND OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT.

SO I WANNA SEE IF WE CAN NAIL DOWN WHAT WE THINK THE GOAL OF OUR SPENDING TIME TOGETHER LOOKS LIKE.

UM, AND, AND, AND IT IS TO ARTICULATE THE LARGER FRAMEWORK.

WHAT IS THE BIG IDEA THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD? SO I'M GOING BACK TO SAY, I WANT TO START WITH THIS, UM, UH, THE STRONG PERSON FRAMEWORK THAT I'M REPEATING FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU.

SO WE CAN TOGETHER DECIDE IF WE AGREE ON THIS AS OUR GOAL IS THE GOAL OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND THESE CONVERSATIONS TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK, A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE.

YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT IT INTO ONE THING.

WE'LL GO, UH, I THINK THE VERY SPECIFIC BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND AND ADDRESSING THAT HISTORICAL DEBT IS A SINGLE SINGULAR AND SPECIFIC GOAL.

I THINK A BROADER AND PARALLEL OR A JOINED GOAL, UH, IS A COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY PLAN THAT LOOKS DECADES IN THE FUTURE SETTING PRECEDENT FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESSING, UH, VARIOUS HISTORICAL DEBTS.

WE HAVE A SHORT TERM GOAL OF INJECTING IMMEDIATE MONEY INTO BLACK, UM, THE BLACK MUSIC COMMUNITY HERE, UH, A LONGTERM GOAL, NOT ONLY REPAIRING THAT, BUT LOOKING BROADLY AND HOLISTICALLY AT THE VARIOUS HISTORICAL DEBTS THAT EQUITY.

I MEAN, WE, WE SEE OUR, OUR GENDER IMBALANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN MUSIC IS, IS STREAM.

WE HAVE TWO WOMEN ON THE MUSIC MISSION OUT OF 11 IT'S, ANECDOTALLY 99 OUT OF A HUNDRED DRUMMERS, I MEET ARE GONNA BE MEN.

99 OUT OF A HUNDRED ARE GOING TO THE GUITARS ARE GONNA BE MAD.

WE CAN SEE THAT.

AND I THINK IT STARTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF MUSIC EDUCATION AND YOU SEE, UH, RACIAL

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AND GENDER INEQUITIES IN, IN THAT.

UM, SO WE, WE CAN'T, I MEAN, NONE OF US THINK THAT WE CAN ON THIS COMMISSION FIXED RACISM OR FIXED MISOGYNY.

UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE GOALS FOR HOW WE LEAD IN THAT DIRECTION TO OUR MORE EQUITABLE USE OF COMMUNITY.

LET ME PUSH BACK.

YOU NOT AGAINST YOU, BUT WITH YOU GRANT, UM, AT THE HIGHEST ORDER OF OUR THINKING, WE'RE ABLE TO DESIGN TOGETHER AN OVERARCHING STATEMENT THAT IS OUR NORTH STAR, THAT DOESN'T SEPARATE GENDER, UH, MUSIC, EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.

I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU'RE YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT YOUR PRIORITY, ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES IS TO ADDRESS, UM, THE MARGINALIZATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIAN.

AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE SPACE FOR THESE OTHER, UM, FOCUS AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

SO WHEN I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE AS A GOAL STATEMENT, CREATING A STRUCTURE, NOT INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW AND NOT INDIVIDUAL RESPONSES RIGHT NOW, WE'LL QUICKLY GET TO THOSE, BUT AN OVERARCHING STATEMENT THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION IS ABLE TO SPEAK AND COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

WHAT IS THE MUSIC COMMISSION FOCUS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS OR GOING FORWARD FROM THIS DAY, IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS OVERARCHING STATEMENT, BUT I'M NOT YET TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, HOW WE ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE WILL, IF THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND STRENGTHENS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE WHAT'S MISSING, IS THAT A COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH CONCEPT FOR ALL OF US TO BUY INTO AND GET TO WORK ON? REMEMBER, I WANT US TO RESIST THE TEMPTATION.

I'M GOING TO SOLUTION FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO THAT PLACE WHERE WE FORGET SOMETHING, WHEN WE DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO BUILD THAT SCAFFOLDED RESPONSE, SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SAME WAY THAT SUPPORTING AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS SPECIFICALLY IS, IS MORE THAN JUST CREATING A FUN, THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU JUST HAD ABOUT THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS, UM, UH, THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND AND THE SPACE RE YOU KNOW, DISASTER RELIEF FOR SPACE ALLOCATIONS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.

UM, BUT I THINK WHAT I WANT US TO, TO DO OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE TIMES ONE IS TO WORDSMITH.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS YOUR MISSION FOR WORKING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR UMBRELLA GOAL IS, AND IT CANNOT BE.

AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S GOTTA BE SO COMPREHENSIVE THAT EVERYTHING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES IS SUPPORT.

MUSICIANS HAS GOTTA BE IN SERVICE OF THIS GOAL OF THIS OVERARCHING MISSION.

SO MARGIE, I HAD A, SOME, SOME CONSIDERATIONS FOR OUR GROUP, AS FAR AS THE WORDING, UH, WERE, AS YOU SAID, CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS BLACK MUSICIANS IN THE OVERALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE WORD FRAMES IN LIEU OF SUPPORT.

SO IT WOULD READ, CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT FRAMES BLACK MUSIC IN THE OVERALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

TELL ME WHY FRAMES.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT FRAMES IS A, I CAN'T TELL ME WHY YOU USE THAT WORD IN THIS CONTEXT FOR THIS BODY TO LEAD SUPPORT.

TO ME SOUNDS MORE AS A FOLLOWING TERM, UH, AND NO ONE ELSE IS LEADING THIS CONVERSATION IN THE CITY.

SO EXCEPT WE GOT FROM THIS BODY THROUGH SHOTGUN.

SO THAT, THAT WAS MY, UH, MY THINKING ON THAT, LIKE YOUR THINKING AND, UH, RAISE YOUR WORDS BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO WORDS THAT I PINNED WHILE YOU, YOU, WHILE THE COMMISSIONERS WERE TALKING WAS ELEVATE AND PROMOTE THAT'S,

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THAT'S GREAT, LIKE ELEVATE, UH, ETHICS, THAT'S A LEAD WORD AS IT'S, UM, SUPPORTS AND PROMOTES TO ME FOLLOW, I GUESS, A LITTLE TRAIL BEHIND SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOMENTUM.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S WORK ON A MORE POWER PACKED LEADERSHIP WORD.

I'LL INSERT ELEVATE FOR NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LATER TO CHEW ON THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH, BECAUSE MY CONVERSATIONS AND LISTENING TO SHAKA, HE HAS THE ABILITY TO IMPART A CERTAIN STUDENTS OF, UM, UM, URGENCY ABOUT THIS WORK.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, WHAT I'M ALSO HEARING FROM GRAHAM IS THIS, WE NEED TO DO THIS THING NOW.

SO IF I CAN RAISE THE CONVERSATION TO THINKING THAT UNDER THE FRAMEWORK FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS, FOR THE BIG IDEA THAT THAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, OR THAT YOU HAVE, UM, I WANT TO GET EVERYBODY'S OKAY.

THAT WE CAN, UM, HOLD FOR NOW, THE CONCEPT THAT THE GOAL OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT ELEVATES AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND PROMOTES MAYBE THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY, AUSTIN.

NOT THAT THAT ISN'T ALREADY HAPPENING.

I LIKE THAT SO FAR.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM HASN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.

REALLY? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANKS.

I, UH, DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT IN OUR WORK, IN THE, UM, IN THIS WORKING GROUP TO FOCUS ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF AUSTIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF BLACK CULTURE, BLACK MUSIC CULTURE IN OUR CITY? I DON'T WANT, UM, THE TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY TO BE THAT WE'RE ONLY, UM, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP JUST INDIVIDUAL MUSICIANS.

AND NOT THAT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE FOR ANYBODY THAT PAYS ATTENTION TO MUSIC AND AUSTIN TO COME AWAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, BLACK MUSIC IS, IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE MUSIC CULTURE HERE IN AUSTIN, AND THAT IT SHOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE CITYWIDE SUPPORT FOR, UM, THAT, THAT PART OF OUR, OUR, OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY HERE.

SO I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL OF THIS GROUP IS TO, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATE ENTHUSIASM FOR OUR WORK.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, AND, AND SO I WANT YOU TO, TO CONSIDER THAT THIS GOAL, AND I REALIZED THAT I'M LIKE THE THIRD GRADE TEACHER, I KEEP HAMMERING AWAY TO MAKE SURE WE ALL AGREE FOR NORTHSTAR IS, UM, THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ADVOCACY AND COMMUNICATION ELEMENTS OF THIS STRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD, WHICH IS WHY THE CREATING OF THE FUND IS ONLY ONE PART OF OUR WORK.

ISN'T IT? SO THE STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ADDING TO, IT INCLUDES A COMPONENT THAT CREATES A FUND, AN AMERICAN MUSICIAN CREATE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION ELEMENT, ADVOCACY STRATEGY, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO COME.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM GRAHAM THAT I MADE A NOTE OF WAS IT SHOULD ALSO BE A STRUCTURE THAT LOOKS AT, UM, PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR ARTS MUSIC LEARNING FOR, FOR YOUNGER MUSICIANS.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO, SO THE, THE UMBRELLA THAT YOU CARRY AROUND HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT SPOKES, DOESN'T IT? UM, CAN I SIGN OFF RIGHT.

FOR RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A WORKING DRAFT OF WHAT OUR OVERARCHING GOAL IS OF THE COMMISSION, CREATING THE STRUCTURE, ELEVATING AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSIC, AMERICAN MUSIC, AND PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN, PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK YOU JUST SAID PROMOTING EARLIER, I THINK BOTH WERE, I THINK LEADING AND FOLLOWING ARE IMPORTANT.

WE'VE GOT A STRUGGLING INDUSTRY, UH, OVERALL, REGARDLESS OF, OF, UH, OF THE OTHER ISSUES OR TIME OUT.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY PROMOTING IT, BUT SUPPORTING IT SO THAT THE OVERLYING INDUSTRY SURVIVE.

SO WE HAVE AN EQUITABLE FUTURE IN A THRIVING MUSIC COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A TEN SECOND PAUSE

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IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SCRIBBLE DOWN WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

UM, IF SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO, TO READ IT AND LOOK AT IT, TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M GIVING THE RIGHT INFLECTIONS ON THIS.

I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO AGREE IN A FEW MORE MINUTES NOW THAT IF I TAKE THIS OVERARCHING FRAMEWORK STATEMENT BACK TO THE STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU TO CREATE THAT STRUCTURE THAT MEETS, UM, THIS OVERARCHING GOAL.

SO, UM, WELL CAN SAY THIS AGAIN, INSTEAD OF ME, THE WORDS THAT WE'RE WANTING ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO INGEST AND PUSH BACK OUT THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS TO, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ON ANYBODY.

YOU KNOW, I'M A SCHOOL TEACHER, SO I CAN'T HELP IT.

UM, BUT I'M GONNA HOLD MY HANDS TYPE IN THAT POINT.

UH, I NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO, TO VOICE THIS COMMITMENT.

CAN YOU READ WHAT YOU HAVE ONE MORE TIME? SURE.

CREATE A STRUCTURE AND I'M NOT GIVING THE PREAMBLE.

THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC PERMISSION IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT ELEVATES AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSIC AND PROMOTES AND SUPPORTS THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN.

KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME HOT SHOT MARKETING PERSON WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS AND MAKE SURE THE WORDS ARE IN THE RIGHT ORDER AND ALL THAT.

BUT THIS IS OUR FRAMEWORK.

THE STATEMENT, CAN I ASK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT CONNECTING HERE, OR MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S IN MY MIND WHEN I HEAR WE TALK MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN INCLUDES AFRICAN AMERICANS IN POSITIONS OF POWER? IS THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S IN THERE, OR DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE INDUSTRY AS IF IT'S SOME DISEMBODIED THING, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A DISEMBODIED THING, WHICH ONE USING THE WORD INDUSTRIES INSTEAD OF INDUSTRY, UM, SO THAT IT COULD INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SECTOR, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, FOLK MUSIC, TRADITIONAL MUSIC, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS, UM, THE CRE THE CREATIVE ENGINEERING ASPECT IS A PART OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES.

RIGHT? SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN CREATE A STATEMENT THAT WILL POINT TO EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF CONCERN THAT WE WANT TO MANAGE, WHICH IS WHY WE GOTTA HAVE IT AS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AS UMBRELLA ISSUE AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT BEING AN INTEREST OF YOURS, UM, ON WARREN.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE START BUILDING OUT THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS, BUT FOR NOW IT'S OUR ELEVATOR.

SO I HAVE A FEW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WANT TO PARSE THE EXACT WORDS, BUT, UM, I WORRY THAT, UH, BLACK MUSIC WITHOUT, UH, SAYING COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING, OH, I'M NOT RACIST.

I LIKE JAMES BROWN, OR I LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON FOREVER.

SO LIKE JUST SAYING, WE ELEVATE BLACK MUSIC.

PEOPLE ALREADY THINK THAT THEY DO THAT.

WHEREAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE AND THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS NOT THERE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE GOT BLACK MUSIC, COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO INDUSTRY HAS SORT OF A SPECIFIC ME, MEANING I THINK, IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

UH, AND, UH, SO I WONDER THERE AS WELL, SOMETHING LIKE MUSIC INDUSTRIES AND COMMUNITIES, UH, IN THE SECOND HALF AS WELL, BECAUSE INDUSTRY IS TRADITIONALLY SEEN AS DEMAND.

SO TO SPEAK THAT THE BIG BANG, THE PEOPLE IN POWER AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT HAVE PETROL MUSICIANS, THE MUSICIANS ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE INDUSTRY, UM, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION INITIATIVE TO BE THOROUGH

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AND TO DO ITS JOB.

UM, I, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU CREATE A STRONG ENOUGH STATEMENT, YOU CAN SCAFFOLD UNDERNEATH IT AS MANY OF THE CONCERNS AND A WAY OF WORK TO ADDRESS THEM AS YOU NEED.

I WOULD OFFER THAT IF YOU GET TOO SPECIFIC IN YOUR OVERALL GOAL, YOU WILL BE EXCLUSIVE.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OXYMORON, DOESN'T IT? BUT YOU CAN LEAVE MORE THINGS OUT, START NAMING ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, WE WANT TO AGREE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SAY TO ERICA, UM, LET'S NAIL THIS.

WE'LL WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ALLOW OURSELVES A CHANCE TO REVISIT AND MASSAGE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO, WE WANT