Jul 22, 2020 Music Special Meeting

LET ME GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW.

OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS, TO MUSICIANS WHO BRING SO MUCH TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY, UH, UH, ANY MUSICIAN, UH, MANY MUSICIANS IN OUR GROUP RECEIVE REJECTION LETTERS, BUT NO REASON FOR REJECTION NOW AT THE CITY HAS THAT DATA.

UH, WELL, I WANT TO START BY THANKING OUR CITY LEADERS, EDD STAFF, UH, IN THE ATX MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION FOR IN IMPLEMENTING THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

UH, WE HAVE NOW HEARD FROM DOZENS OF MUSICIANS OVER THE PAST WEEK, UH, WHO WERE ELATED TO HAVE RECEIVED THE AMD RF GRANTS.

SO PLEASE KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY APPRECIATES ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN.

UH, WE'VE ALSO HEARD FEEDBACK THAT SUGGESTS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AS YOU HAVE ALL BEEN MADE AWARE OF.

UM, MANY OF OUR INITIAL QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED IN THAT REPORT PROFIT BY EDD LAST YEAR DATA ON AWARDEES AND SUPPORT FOR A SECOND ROUND, UH, ROUND OF FUNDING.

UM, SO I THINK THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR MUSICIANS AND, UM, COLLABORATE ON ENSURING A SUCCESSFUL SECOND ROUND.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE IS EASY SOFTBALL.

UH, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW THE BIG QUESTION WITHIN OUR NEW MUSIC COMMUNITY IS WHEN WILL THAT SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING BE ANNOUNCED.

AND WHEN WILL THAT THOSE APPLICATIONS BE OPEN, NUMBER TWO, WILL EDD MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT CRITERIA.

SOME MORE MUSICIANS CAN APPLY.

UM, AND UNDER THAT HEADING, UH, LET'S TALK REAL QUICKLY ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, UH, THE DISQUALIFICATION BECAUSE OF THE PRE OF A PREVIOUS MUSIC CARES GRANT.

NOW FUNDS FROM MUSIC HEARS, WERE DERIVED FROM DONATIONS TO THAT NONPROFIT.

WHEREAS AMD RF FUNDS ARE FROM A WHOLLY DIFFERENT BUCKET OF MONEY, UH, FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO WE REQUEST THAT THE CITY REMOVED THAT QUALIFIER.

SO MUSICIANS, UH, MAY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING THEY NEED.

UH, NUMBER TWO, THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS TO SHOW BANK STATEMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN WITHIN OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY THAT THIS INFORMATION COULD BE SHARED WITH A THIRD PARTY AS IS APPARENTLY STATED WITHIN THE APPLICATION AS WELL, JUST BECAUSE OF MUSICIAN SHOWS THAT MORE THAN TWO MONTHS WORTH OF SAVINGS CURRENTLY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

UH, OUR MUSIC AND SOUND, THIS REQUIREMENT TO BE EXTREMELY INVASIVE AND MANY VOICES THAT THEY SIMPLY WOULD NOT APPLY FOR FEAR OF RISKING THEIR PRIVATE BANKING INFORMATION TO A THIRD PARTY VENDOR.

NOW, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

LET'S PLEASE CLARIFY THAT.

SO WE CAN AVOID CONFUSION WITHIN OUR MUSICIANS, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ONE MORE OF THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS REQUIREMENT.

NOW, MEANING MUSICIANS CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS YET.

THEIR WORK IS PRIMARY WILL BE BASED HERE TO THESE MUSICIANS NEED PENALIZE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

IF THE GOAL OF THIS FUND IS TO SERVE THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK

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WHY WERE THEY NOT GIVEN THIS INFORMATION A REASON BEING HERE THAT IF THERE IS A SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING, MUSICIANS NEED TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE UNABLE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS IN THE FIRST ROUND, IF MUSICIANS MADE MISTAKES OR SUBMIT INCOMPLETE APPS, THEY SHOULD INDEED BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO CORRECT THOSE ERRORS ENSURE A SUCCESSFUL APPLICATION.

I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME, SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MUTED.

SORRY ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK OF TODAY, IT WOULD BE CAT CLEMENS.

ALRIGHT.

HEY, THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I'M A WORKING MUSICIAN IN TOWN BEFORE THE PANDEMIC KIT.

I WORKED ABOUT FIVE TO EIGHT NIGHTS A WEEK IN TOWN, AND I THINK I'M PRETTY TYPICAL AS FAR AS YOUR AVERAGE WORKING MUSICIAN.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT PAT SAID.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS BEING THE IN TOWN RESTRICTION ON THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, UH, I MEAN A LARGE, LARGE PORTION OF THE MUSICIANS THAT I KNOW WHO ARE IN A SIMILAR PLACE TO ME.

I LIVE IN SOUTH BOSTON, BUT A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLAYING EVERY SINGLE NIGHT IN AUSTIN CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN AUSTIN, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT.

BUT, UM, THAT'S, I MEAN THAT RESTRICTION, IT SEEMS LIKE SHOULD BE LISTED IMMEDIATELY.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IS, UM, THIS IS A GREAT THING THAT'S BEING DONE.

THAT'S A THOUSAND DOLLAR GRANT, BUT I THINK IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO SAY THAT WORK WON'T CONTINUE AS NORMAL FOR MUSICIANS UNTIL 2021.

UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF MORE LONGTERM PLANS BEING PUT IN PLACE TO HELP MUSICIANS, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THERE'S LONG, MORE LONGTERM PLANS BEING PUT IN PLACE TO HELP VENUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE SMALL BUSINESSES, JUST THE SAME AS THEM.

UH, WE WERE GOING TO NEED THAT SAME KIND OF ASSISTANCE.

IF I, I CAN'T AFFORD TO STAY IN THIS TOWN, I HAVE TO LEAVE.

AND THAT'S THE SAME WITH A LOT OF MUSICIANS.

UM, AND, UH, I ALSO JUST, JUST AS A FINAL NOTE, JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO VOICE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT STARTING A BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND AS WELL.

AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THAT.

AND, UH, AND THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH AGAIN FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AND LETTING SOME OF THE WORKING MUSICIANS CONCERNS BE HEARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, THANK YOU.

UM, THAT WILL CONCLUDE OUR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION FOR TODAY.

AND WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL DO A QUICK

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

KIM HAS ALREADY SENT OUT THE LAST MEETING'S MINUTES FROM JULY 6TH, SO EVERYBODY CAN JUST TAKE A BRIEF SECOND TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND OF SECOND FROM, FROM SHOCKOE, ALL IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES, MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

AND WITH THAT, WE CAN GO RIGHT

[2.a. Update on Music Disaster Relief Fund by Stephanie Bergara, Artist and Industry Development, Music & Entertainment, Economic Development Department.]

INTO, UM, B STAFF BRIEFINGS TO A UPDATE ON MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND BY STEPHANIE BERGARA ARTISTS, INDUSTRY DEVELOPMENT, MUSIC, AND ENTERTAINMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

NO, CAN'T HEAR YOU, UNFORTUNATELY.

HEY EVERYBODY, I HAVE TIFFANY ON THE PHONE, HE'S HAVING AUDIO ISSUES.

SO I'M GOING TO PUT HER UP TO THE SPEAKER.

WAIT, HOLD ON.

I APOLOGIZE.

CAN YOU TURN DOWN, STEPHANIE, CAN YOU TURN DOWN THERE'S FEEDBACK ON YOUR END? SO IF YOU COULD TURN DOWN ATX IN OR ANY OTHER AUDIO FOR YOU? YEAH.

IS THAT BETTER? GREAT.

AND THE BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT IS THE BREAKDOWN IS 55 OF THOSE MUSICIANS THAT ALREADY RECEIVED THE MUSIC.

SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE, THEN YOU HAVE THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND APPLICATION.

THE FIRST ROUND OF THIS PROGRAM CLOSED, UH, JUNE 26 AND TOTALLY RECEIVED 838 APPLICATIONS, 743 OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE APPROVED.

95%, 95 OF THE APPLICANTS WERE INELIGIBLE.

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HERE'S WHERE THE LEASE PAYMENTS.

30 APPLICANTS DID NOT RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR WHO APPLIED WERE NOT PERFORMING MUSICIANS FOR MUSICIANS WERE NOT APPROVED BY MUSIC CARES.

AND THE CITY OF BOSTON AFTER MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS, WEREN'T ABLE TO REACH THESE APPLICANTS FOR A FOLLOWUP.

IT'S MORE OF THEM TO FOLKS.

MOST OF THE APPLICATION DEADLINE AND TWO MUSICIANS, UH, SEND THEIR APPLICATIONS TWICE AND THEY WERE EVENTUALLY APPROVED.

SO, UH, OF NODES.

SO ALSO 19 APPLICANTS WHO WERE APPROVED WERE NOT THROUGH THE AUSTIN MUSIC PROGRAM.

UH, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE ACTUALLY NOT BASED WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO MUSIC, IT DIDN'T COUNT TOWARDS THE CITY OF BOSTON FUNDING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, AND TOTAL 724 AWARDS HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO AUSTIN MUSICIANS FOR THE MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND, UH, TO DATE.

AND I WILL, UH, LET ERICA ELABORATE ON NEXT STEPS, FEDERAL TO WHAT FUNDING, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FROM HERE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, LET EVERYBODY, ERIC, A FAMILY MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

UM, WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION UP TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE DATA, BUT I'M NOT SURE KIM, IF I'M SUPPOSED TO SHARE MY SCREEN FOR THESE UPDATES, THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME CONNECTION ISSUES.

UM, ERICA, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SHARE YOUR SCREEN.

I THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE ON THE SCREEN WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO TO A CTM YESTERDAY.

OH, I SEE.

WELL, YOU GUYS HAVE COPIES THEN COMMISSIONERS OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE OVERVIEW THAT STEPHANIE JUST GAVE AND WE WILL BE POSTING THEM ALSO SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE, UH, AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE, I THINK BY THE END OF BUSINESS.

SO, UM, AS STEPHANIE SAID, THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER FOR PHASE TWO FOR THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, LISTENING, COLLECTING THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.

AND WE ARE LAUNCHING IT IN TANDEM WITH THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING, INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT FOR CREATIVES, WHICH WILL BE COMING IN FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.

SO, UM, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ALSO APPLY FOR THAT FUND.

UH, THERE'S A TOTAL AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INDIVIDUAL CREATIVES AND MUSICIANS.

UM, AND SO IT WILL BE A CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF, UM, BEING ABLE TO APPLY TO THIS FUND AS WELL.

UH, SO WE WILL BE LAUNCHING THAT IN TANDEM AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF LINING UP TO FOR THE NEXT ROUND, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON A BIGGER, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLK LIKE, UH, A BIGGER SECTOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL SECTORS, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL WORKERS WITHIN THE SECTORS, THE CREATIVE SECTORS WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT.

SO THAT SHOULD BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

AND MUSIC CARES.

WE'LL DO THE MUSICIAN PORTION OF THIS, UM, AS THEY HAVE BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVING CHECKS ALREADY.

UH, SO WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNKEY SIT, UH, SITUATION WITH MUSIC CARE.

SO, UM, AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THE SPACE TOO, AND WE'LL ADJUST WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE'RE IN PARODY WITH THE, UH, OVERALL PROGRAM FOR CREATIVES AT ANY, JUST LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW WE HAVE A LOADED SCHEDULE, SO KIM CAN GIVE HER UPDATE NEXT, JUST QUICKLY.

UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, THE ISSUE OF PEOPLE BEING RELUCTANT WITH THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY INVOLVED IN WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS? SO THAT WAS JUST ON THE FINAL PAGE OF JUST KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, LEGALEES, YOU KNOW, OF SIGNING OFF ON THINGS AND THE THIRD PARTY, THAT'S A MUSIC CARES COMPONENT, AND IF I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I'M, I THINK THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE, THE AREA WHERE THE THIRD PARTY IS THE CITY THAT'S, WHO'S GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

AND SO, UH, BANK STATEMENTS, ANY KIND OF PERSONAL INFORMATION IS NOT BEING SHARED WITH ANYBODY.

THAT INFORMATION IS NOT KEPT.

IT IS NOT STORED.

AND IN FACT, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BLACK OUT THEIR ACCOUNT NUMBERS WHEN THEY SEND IT OVER.

WE JUST NEEDED TO SEE PROOF OF LIKE IN THE TOTALS AND LIKE KIND OF THE, ITEMIZATIONS NOT IN THE PERSONAL DETAILS, THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT USED WHATSOEVER.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF EXPLAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO ALONG FOR THE NEXT ROUNDS OF THE TYPES OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL NEED TO BE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, FOR THESE FUNDS AND JUST MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS AND SO THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE OTHER PROGRAMS WILL BE COMING DOWN THE PIPE THAT WILL ASK THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO A QUICK SECOND TO CLARIFY THAT FOR FOLKS, CAUSE IT WAS NOT CLEAR IN THE FIRST ROUND TO PEOPLE.

UM, AWESOME.

ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS THROUGH ANYBODY?

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I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, ERICA.

SO WHORE WERE MUSICIANS NOTIFIED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER OR DID THEY JUST GET A CHECK IN THE MAIL? LIKE NO, THEY WERE NOTIFIED, THERE WERE THREE EMAILS THAT WENT OUT AS WELL AS CASE MANAGER.

IT COULD BE CASE MANAGEMENT FOR ANY INDIVIDUALS WHERE WE NEED A CLARIFICATION.

I MEAN, THERE WERE INSTANCES WHERE THERE WERE OBVIOUS MISTAKES AND NEVER WANT TO DECLINE SOMEBODY JUST BASED ON A MISTAKE THAT WE CAN SEE.

SO STEPHANIE REGARDLESS SPENT, UH, MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS AT CASE MANAGING EACH INDIVIDUAL APPLICATION.

AND SO THERE WAS JUST ONLY FOUR THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF.

UM, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE CAN OPEN UP THE SECOND ROUND TO, UH, SOUND ENGINEERS, LIGHTING DESIGNERS AND THE TECH COMMUNITY? YES.

SO THE CREATE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN TANDEM WITH THE NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING FOR CREATIVES THAT IS FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS BY ORDINANCES, THE REMAINING FUNDS HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON MUSICIANS.

AND SO MUSIC CARES WILL HELP FACILITATE THE OVERALL GRANT FOR CREATIVE.

SO FACILITATE IT SPECIFICALLY FOR MUSICIANS AND MUSICIANS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY ELIGIBLE THERE.

IT CAN ALSO APPLY TO THIS KIND OF SISTER FUND.

SO, UM, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE WILL JUST DEDICATE IT TO MUSICIANS AS DIRECTED, BUT THE REST OF THE FUND WILL BE OPEN TO INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE CREATIVE INDUSTRIES.

UH, CAUSE WE UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY, UH, IS THEY'VE BEEN HIT LIKE ASTRONOMICALLY BY THIS PANDEMIC.

ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO FOLLOW UP IS ANYONE WHO DOES NOT CASH THEIR CHECK? I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S A CRISIS GOING ON.

PEOPLE MOVE, PEOPLE MAY LOSE INTERNET ACCESS, WHATEVER.

IS THERE A PLAN IN PLACE FOR EVERY, EVERY CHECK OR PAYMENT THAT GETS DISBURSED THAT? YEAH, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE MUSIC CARES PROCESS.

UM, THEY HAVE A BANK THAT THEY WORK WITH CONSISTENTLY ON ALL OF THEIR GRANTS AND UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO CHECK WITH THEM ON WHAT THEIR OFFICIAL PROCESS IS, BUT I'M SURE THAT THEY HAVE A PROCESS FOR ANY KIND OF UNCLAIMED CHECKS.

OH WAIT, HERE.

IT'S DEFINITELY HAS.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH MAKING SURE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO CALLS AND PEOPLE GETTING CHECKS, REDIRECTING THEM TO NEW ADDRESSES.

THEY HAVE A DEDICATED EMAIL THAT THEY'RE SENDING OUT.

ANYBODY CAN USE A REISSUE FOR.

THE REASON WHY THEY HAVE TO BE PAPER CHECKS IS, AND THAT IS ALSO AN EQUITY ISSUE.

NOT EVERYBODY HAS A BANK ACCOUNT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY USE THE POSTAL SERVICE AND THEY DO PAPER CHECKS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE PROCESSES IN PLACE IN CASE IT GETS LOST IN THE MAIL.

CAN WE GET A REPORT BACK SAYING ONE MONTH, UH, OF ANYONE WHO HASN'T CASHED CHECKS? I MEAN, I REALIZE THEY HAVE A PROCESS, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED IF WE CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE JUST CASTRO.

WE'LL CHECK IN WITH THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A POSTAL SERVICE AND EVERYONE'S GETTING CHECKED ON DIFFERENT DAYS.

I KNOW I'VE ALREADY GONE OUT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST REDIRECTED TO A DIFFERENT MAILING ADDRESS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF NAVIGATING OUR WAY.

TWO B UPDATE ON CREATESPACE DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAM, BUT KIM MCCARSON ECONOMIC AND BUSINESS LIAISON MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS PROUD FOR, UH, FOR WORKING ON THAT AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

I KNOW IT HASN'T BEEN EASY AND I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CRITIQUES.

I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S REAL PEOPLE BEHIND THIS THAT REALLY CARE, UM, ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE MONEY GETS OUT THERE TO THEM.

NOBODY'S TRYING TO KEEP THEM FROM RECEIVING MONEY.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE FACT THAT 734 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET THIS THOUSAND DOLLAR CHECK IS, IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE SOME OF THE GRADUATES YOU GUYS ON.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU PROPS ON THAT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

[2.b. Update on Creative Space Disaster Relief Program by Kim McCarson, Economic and Business Liaison, Music & Entertainment Division, Economic Development Department.]

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

AND EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

AM I, AM I, AM I NOT TO CON YEAH.

WE HAD 65 APPLICATIONS COMPLETED REPRESENTING $2,734,448.

UH, SO

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UM, GRANTED THERE WAS ONLY $1 MILLION IN THIS FUND.

UM, SO TOTAL REQUESTS WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN WHAT WERE ALMOST $3 MILLION.

SO THE BREAKDOWN THERE IS THAT WE HAD 52 REQUESTS FOR RENT STIPEND, UH, REPRESENTING 2 MILLION, 147,448.

SO OVER $2 MILLION JUST ON RENT STIPEND, THEN WE HAD ANOTHER 13 APPLICATIONS FOR OTHER SPACE RELATED NEEDS, LIKE LEASEHOLD IMPROVEMENTS AND GAP FINANCING REPRESENTING $577,000.

UM, MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS.

THERE WERE 19 MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTED 25% OF THOSE REQUESTING FUNDS, UM, ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, THERE WERE 46 REPRESENTING 71% OF THE REQUEST.

UM, NONPROFITS WERE 27.

SO THERE WERE 27 NONPROFITS THAT, UH, SENT AN APPLICATION REPRESENTING 42% OF ALL THE APPLICATIONS AND 38 WERE FOR-PROFITS REPRESENTING 58%.

UM, TYPES OF FUNDING REQUESTED A RENT STIPEND OF COURSE WAS THE BIGGEST.

UH, THERE WERE 52 REQUESTS FOR RENT STIPEND AT 80% AND THERE WERE, UH, 12 REQUESTS, UH, FOR SPACE RELATED, UM, NEEDS LIKE LEASEHOLD IMPROVEMENTS AND ONE GAP FINANCING REQUEST.

THE NEXT STEPS.

WELL, THE JOINT WORKING GROUP, THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC WORKING GROUPS SELECTED FIVE PANELISTS.

THOSE PANELISTS ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING AND DISCUSSING APPLICATIONS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY WILL MAKE, UM, THE AWARDS ONCE THE AWARD AMOUNTS ARE DECIDED, THEN THE AWARDS WILL BE ANNOUNCED AND THE CONTRACTS WILL BE IN CHECKS WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.

ANY QUESTIONS WHO ARE THE FIVE PANELISTS? OKAY.

YEAH, WE HAVE, UH, LET'S SEE IF I CAN REMEMBER ALL OF THEM.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THEIR NAMES IN FRONT OF ME, UM, AND, UH, UH, GRAMMAR ON THE JOINT GROUPS.

IF YOU CAN HELP ME, THERE WAS ANDREA MERCEDES PERRY.

UM, THERE WAS, UH, ELISA, I FORGET ELISA'S LAST NAME.

UM, AND HANG ON A SECOND, IF YOU WANT, I CAN PULL UP OVER THIS ALYSSA MCCAIN.

UM, KANE, THANKS.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, UM, UH, JACKIE, WHAT WAS JACKIE'S LAST NAME? SORRY, GUYS.

IT'S ALWAYS GET PUT ON THE SPOT WITH NAMES.

WE WOULD, OF COURSE THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE I NECESSARILY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME.

SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH MY EMAILS TO SEE IF I CAN FIND OUT IT'S SIMILAR, BUT, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS A REPRESENTATIVE POOL, UH, LIST TO HIM, UH, UH, AND WE ALL, ALL OF US, THE MICHELLE AND, UH, OTHERS ON THE ART SIDE AND I'M SHOCKED.

AND I CHUCK US A MINUTE TO, OR THE FIVE NAMES OR MAYBE IT WAS SUBMITTED THREE NAMES AND TWO OF THEM SAID, YES, BUT THERE'S A BANKING PERSON ON THERE.

THERE ARE MUSIC PEOPLE ON THERE.

THEIR ARE COMMUNITY PEOPLE ON THERE, AND THERE'S A BROAD DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, UH, WITHIN THE FIVE.

WHAT IS THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT NOW WITH THAT MUCH MORE OF A NEED THAN FUNDS AVAILABLE? HOW ARE THOSE NOW PRIORITIZED? ALRIGHT.

UM, WELL THE, THE PANEL WILL PUT SCORES ON THE, UM, THE AMOUNTS, I MEAN, ON THE, UH, APPLICATIONS.

AND THEN ONCE AMOUNTS ARE GOING TO BE DETERMINED AS AMOUNTS WILL BE DETERMINED USING A MATRIX THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL THAT, UH, THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION ALSO USES IN MAKING THEIR AWARD DETERMINATIONS.

AND, UM, ONCE, UH, ONCE THAT IS DETERMINED, THEN WE'LL BE MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT THE AWARDS.

GO ON TO OLD BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD BE THREE, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BLACK LIVES MUSIC FUND TO REPAIR AND ADDRESS HISTORIC NEGLECT WITHIN THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY TOWARDS THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE? FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU, KIM.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WE CAN

[3.a. Discussion and Possible Action on Black Lives Music Fund to repair and address historic neglect within the Austin music industry towards the Black Community.]

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF START ON THAT ONE SHAKA AND KIND OF SEE WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT DISCUSSION.

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UM, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED TO CREATE A SPACE, UH, FOR A DISCUSSION, A PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF WHAT I BROUGHT UP IN JUNE, UM, TO ATTEMPT TO REPAIR, UM, HISTORIC NEGLECT OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN, AND ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE AMOUNT OF WEALTH THAT HAS BEEN BUILT OFF OF BLACK CULTURE, BLACK MUSIC, BLACK TALENT, UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN REINVESTED IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

UM, SO THAT IS BASICALLY IT IN A NUTSHELL.

UM, I KNOW MARGIE'S HERE TO, TO HELP US KIND OF FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, REALLY DIDN'T, UM, UH, WE, AND WE FORMED A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP AS A MUSIC COMMISSION THAT, UH, WE MET LAST FRIDAY AND JUST HAD AN OVERALL, UM, INTRODUCTORY CONVERSATION.

AND WE'RE COMING BACK TO THE TABLE THIS FRIDAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING EVERY FRIDAY UNTIL WE KIND OF HAVE SOME MORE CONCRETE THINGS TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LIST OF HOMEWORK ITEMS THAT WE HAD TO BRING TO US ABOUT WHAT THE MISSION IS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ON FRIDAY.

SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA LEAN ON MARGIE TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE OR, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, HELP GUIDE US IN THIS DISCUSSION.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE THE ONE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, DIRECTED, UM, UM, KIND OF THE INITIATOR AND JUST ONE THAT BELIEVES THAT THIS SHOULD HAPPEN STRONGLY AND, UH, WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND THE COMMISSION SO FANTASTIC.

UM, AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE AN ACTION ITEM WITH MARGIE NEXT ON THE AGENDA.

WE WEREN'T SURE WHETHER TO SEPARATE THESE GOING FORWARD.

WOULD YOU PREFER THAT IT JUST BE ROLLED INTO ONE AGENDA ITEM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, I SEE THEM AS CONNECTED.

I CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE, I FEEL LIKE I SAID EVERYTHING THAT I NEED TO SAY, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO START HAVING A CONVERSATION.

I NEED TO HEAR MORE FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMISSION AND WHAT THEY THINK.

AND, AND SO HOWEVER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'VE, I'VE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING I NEED TO SAY IS DOCUMENTED BY SEEING THE VIDEO AND HEARD ME TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S KEY THAT WE STARTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A GROUP THAT WE HEAR FROM DOUG, THAT WE HEAR FROM LAUREN.

AND WE HEAR FROM PAUL THAT WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.

AND, AND WE START TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I WENT THROUGH RICK, I GUESS, I GUESS IT DIDN'T GET THROUGH.

UH, BUT CAN I REQUEST SOMEONE TO, UH, JOIN THE WORKING GROUP? WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM TODAY BECAUSE THE WORKING GROUP STILL IS IN A VERY, VERY, VERY LIKE EMBRYONIC STAGE WHEN WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MEET A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE WE THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING OTHER FOLKS IN.

SO I DEFINITELY GOT, GOT YOUR REQUEST AND I SUPPORT THE REQUEST.

I JUST DIDN'T PUSH IT FORWARD IN THIS MEETING.

I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THE WORKING GROUP ON FRIDAY, IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL JUST KIND OF PROCEED THAT WAY ON THAT.

AND THEN I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO KIND OF GET OUR FEET UNDERNEATH US AND GET KIND OF A STRATEGIC FOUNDATION GOING.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN BRING IN SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD TO ADVANCE THE CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK, UM, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, LOOKING TO ADD FOLKS.

AND SO I THINK MAYBE IF EVERYONE ELSE WANTS TO THINK ABOUT POSSIBLE ADDITIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN PROBABLY BY OUR NEXT MEETING, I WOULD THINK EITHER THE NEXT MEETING OR THE MEETING AFTER IT, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY OUR NEXT MEETING IS, UM, THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TOGETHER AS AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO.

GREAT, GREAT, FANTASTIC.

DID ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS OR DO YOU WANT TO GUYS JUST ROLL INTO THREE B AND HAVE IT UNDER THAT GENERAL CONVERSATION? UH, IT DEPENDS, UH, UH, WHETHER, BECAUSE, UH, THIS ISN'T WRITTEN INTO THREE B, CAN WE ACTUALLY MERGE THEM INTO ONE THING? UH, SO THAT CAN BE A BROADER CONVERSATION, OR SHOULD WE ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFIC TO BLACKLINE MUSIC'S ON NOW BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WELL, I THINK PROBABLY JUST FOR PROCEDURE PROCEDURAL SENSE, WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT NOW, BUT THEN MAYBE GOING FORWARD, WE INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE OTHER ITEM.

THAT WAY WE CAN ROLL THEM TOGETHER.

ARE ALSO, UH, AT THE SAME, NOT, I REALIZE IT WANTS TO BE SPECIFIC AND CLEAR, UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESSING OTHER HISTORICAL DEBT.

ONLY A SMALL, SMALL, BUT ALSO LARGE THOUGHT I HAD WAS THAT THE MORE DETAIL, THE MORE ROBUST THE THOROUGHLY THOUGHT OUT THIS PROPOSAL IS THE MORE LIKELY WE ARE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS THROUGH COUNCIL.

AND, UH, I THINK WE ALL FELT STRONGLY ABOUT, UM, THE BLACK LAB MUSIC FUND.

WE ALL

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SO I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, I THINK IF WE BRING BLACK, UH, BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN LONGTERM EQUITY PLAN, AND I'M CURIOUS TO TALK ABOUT THIS MARGIE, THAT'S WHY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW SO THAT IT CAN BE PART OF A BROAD PLAN.

UH, THE MORE COMPREHENSIVE THE PLAN IS, UH, WE WERE SETTING POTENTIALLY A PRECEDENT FOR A LONG TIME HERE AND THEN POTENTIALLY TRANSFORMATIVE WAY.

UM, AS LONG AS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE IT SPECIFIC, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OR OFTEN DOESN'T HAPPEN, OR THOSE FUNDS FIND THEMSELVES IN A NEW PLACE.

UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE PARALLEL CONVERSATIONS.

NOT THAT IT'S NOT EACH OF THESE CONVERSATIONS IS UNIQUE AND EVERY COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN OPPRESSED AS, AS THEIR OWN UNIQUE, UH, DEBT.

UM, BUT I THINK A COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY PLAN WITH A BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT IS ROBUST DETAIL LAID OUT AND THINKING ABOUT THE LONGTERM FUTURE, UM, IS OUR BEST CHANCE OF MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO THE COMMUNITY AND SITTING IN THE LONGTERM.

SO TO ME, IT'S ALMOST TRYING TO REDEFINE IT AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH MARGIE FROM THE BEGINNING.

I AGREE.

I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ESTABLISHING, UH, THAT THIS OWN UNIQUE FUND OR, CAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS CONVERSATION STEMMED FROM THE CONVERSATION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH WAS COMING FROM THE NEW HOT FUNDS.

SO, UH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HOT FUND MONEY OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ON ITS OWN AND NOT WITH THE STRINGS THAT HOP FUNDS ARE PRESENTED? PEOPLE MAY HAVE TO TALK TO YOU THOUGH.

THAT IT BE TIED TO THE HOT TEXT AT THE SAME TIME, SHOCK GOES, RIGHT.

UM, I'M NOT ENTIRELY, I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FLESHING OUT UNLESS WE'RE FIGURING OUT.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE RIGHT POOL, BUT, UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT COMES FROM THERE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS MOVING FORWARD, BUT THAT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT COME FROM THERE AND OTHER SOURCES THAT WE DON'T JUST LIMIT TO THAT FUND, UM, THAT IT ALSO COMES FROM OTHER SOURCES.

WELL, UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PUSHBACK FROM PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, IT'S HALF OF THIS, HALF OF THE FUNDS THAT THE, UH, THE PERCENTAGE TO ME ISN'T REALLY NECESSARILY TO THINK IT'S, IT'S IT'S, TO ME, IT'S ABOUT REPAIR IT'S ABOUT REPAIR.

SO IT SOUND LIKE WE'RE SAYING WE WANT HALF OF ALL THE MONEY THAT EVER COMES IN.

IT'S LIKE, NO, LIKE $750,000 SOUNDS OKAY.

AS A START TO ME, IF IT, IF IT WAS $3 MILLION, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ASKED FOR ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, BUT TO ME IT JUST, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD STARTING POINT, A GOOD STARTING POINT NUMBER.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT LARGER RESPONSE ALLOWED RESPONSE TO, WELL, THERE ARE ONLY 8% OF THE POPULATION AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET HALF OF THE, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, IT REALLY WASN'T NECESSARILY ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF IT AS MUCH AS, UH, A, A NUMBER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE, YOU KNOW, 1.5 MILLION AND THAT WAS HALF OF IT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO START SOMEWHERE, UM, AND START THE COMPENSATION SOMEWHERE.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE STARTING.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST GO FROM HERE TO ME, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.

WE TIE IT INTO THE CONTEXT THAT NOT ONLY IS DEPLETED FOR THE NEXT HOWEVER MANY YEARS IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY, UH, UH, BUT ALSO REQUIRES THINGS TO BE TIED TO TOURISM AND ALL.

AND I THINK A LOT OF THIS IMPORTANT WORK WHILE I THINK IT DOES IMPACT TOURISM GETS BLURRY OR EDGES OF WHAT THAT IS.

UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO BE THE ONES THAT SPECIFY WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

I WOULD SHOW WHAT IS THE PATH FORWARD TO WORK TOWARDS EQUITY? WHAT IS THE PATH FORWARD TO PUTTING MONEY DIRECTLY TOWARDS BLACK MUSIC? WHAT IS THE PATH? WHAT DOES THAT PLAN LOOK LIKE? BUT WE DON'T, AS FAR AS WHAT ARE THE NEEDS WATER, WHERE, WHERE WHERE'S THE HARM THEN DONE WHAT IT NEEDS REPAIRING, UH, AND, BUT NOT NECESSARILY FIGURING OUT WHAT THE MECHANISM FOR WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MONEY COMING FROM THE MOST STABLE PLACE POSSIBLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PLACE IS, BUT A NUMBER THAT GOES UP AND DOWN EVERY YEAR IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PLAN AROUND.

UM, SO I HESITATE TO REC RECOMMEND

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THAT THERE IS THIS MONEY IT'S SPECIFIC MONEY THEN.

SO IT MAKES SENSE.

LIKE, LET'S GO AFTER MONEY, THAT'S ACTUALLY THERE.

AND SO YOU'RE REQUESTING SOMETHING I KNOW EXISTS AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO DO BOTH.

I THINK WE WANT THINGS SHORT TERM MONEY THAT EXISTS, BUT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR MANY YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.

SO WE DON'T LOOK BACK ON THE TIME WHERE WE LOOKED AT THE BLACK POPULATION LEAVING AUSTIN.

AND WE WERE AT THE PIVOT POINT WHERE THE LAST BLACK MUSICIANS LEFT DOWN.

WE WANT TO LOOK BACK AND SAY, WE CREATED A ROADMAP WHERE BALANCE COULD BE, OR TOWARDS OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS.

SO I THINK WE'RE LOOKING SHORT AND VERY LONG TERM AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE, UH, THE MORE, THE MORE PROGRAMS WE CAN IMPACT, THE MORE INDUSTRIES WE CAN IMPACT.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT IS THE GOLDEN KIND OF LIKE SILVER LINING OF THE PANDEMIC IS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN LAID BARE.

WE SEE WHERE THE INEQUITIES ARE.

THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE, BUT NOW THEY'RE UNDER A MAGNIFYING GLASS.

AND SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHILE THINGS ARE PAUSED TO TAKE A LOOK STRUCTURALLY, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO STRUCTURALLY CHANGE THINGS TOO.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN MUSIC, BLACK MUSICIANS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SEE BLACK TALENT BUYERS.

WE NEED TO SEE BLACK TEXTS.

UM, ALL THE DIFFERENT PUBLICISTS, ALL THE DIFFERENT JOBS IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ONLY BE PROMOTING INCLUSION FOR BLACK PERFORMERS.

IT SHOULD BE BLACK EVERYTHING.

AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT AT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS A STARTING POINT.

IT'S ALSO, AS GRAHAM SAID, A VERY SHAKY, VOLATILE FUNDING SOURCE, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT OUR TOURISM MONEY IS REALLY GOING TO BE CUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

UH, WE SHOULD LOOK AT ANY POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SUSTAINABLE.

IT'S NOT JUST A ONE TIME PAYOUT EITHER.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE, I, THE CONCEPT OF REPARATIONS I THINK SHOULD FIGURE IN, BUT NOT IN THE SENSE OF, WELL, HERE IS THE MONEY NOW IT'S FIXED, CAUSE THAT'S NOT GONNA FIX IT.

UH, WE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF THINGS.

AND SO I, I THINK WE'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION WHERE WE ACTUALLY CAN CREATE SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE THAT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IS HELPING ONE, ONE PART OF THE COMMUNITY HELPS ALL THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S LIKE, IF, IF ANY OF US ARE SUFFERING, WE'RE ALL SUFFERING.

AND SO NOW IT'S TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SOME CHANGE.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ELSE AT THAT POINT.

WELL, I'LL JUST SUPPORT WHAT EVERYONE STAYED IN HERE.

AGAIN, SHAKA HAS LAID IT OUT THAT THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TOURISM FUNDING, BUT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY SOLVENT, UH, I'LL ALSO STATE THAT IF THE MUSIC COMMISSION DOESN'T CREATE A MANDATE FOR THIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OTHER ENTITY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL DO SO.

SO WE, WE HAVE TO LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

IT'S ALREADY GOTTEN QUIET IN THREE WEEKS, UH, AS FAR AS SOCIAL MEDIA.

UM, BECAUSE THE, IT'S NOT THAT THE FORCES ARE AGAINST US IN THE INDUSTRY FOR EQUITY, AS MUCH AS EVERYONE'S IN A RECOVERY ZONE RIGHT NOW IN THE INDUSTRY, ALL THE SECTORS OF OUR INDUSTRY AND ARE IN A SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY.

I THINK WHAT OUR MUSIC COMMISSION CAN DO BASED ON SHOCK IS A LEAD IS CREATE, IS CONSTRUCT THE REBIRTH OF WHAT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY LOOKS LIKE IN 2022, BECAUSE AS WE'RE ALREADY HEARING 2021 POSSIBLY WILL BE A DEAD YEAR.

WE'RE HEARING THAT FROM LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK.

SO THAT GIVES US 18 MONTHS TO REBUILD A COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE RESOURCES AS FAR AS DOLLARS AND CENTS, UH, FEDERAL LOCAL STATE.

UM, BUT STILL THE MUSIC INDUSTRY HAS A LACK OF BLACK FACES IN VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND THAT WON'T CHANGE OVERNIGHT.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BULLSEYE AS MUSIC COMMISSIONERS TO ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR OF WHAT THE NEEDS ARE.

AND WE DO HAVE TO GET INTO THE WEEDS A BIT TO DO THAT.

SO I THINK THE WORK IS VERY CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MARGIE BEING BROUGHT IN BY THE MUSIC MUSIC DIVISION.

UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK, UH, THE TRANSPARENCY OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PUBLIC SECTOR WORKING TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL WILL BE CRITICAL.

AND THAT WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

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UH, I I'D LIKE TO, UM, FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING THAT GRAHAM SAID, UH, WHEN HE SAID WE SHOULD GO AFTER STABLE SOURCES OF FUNDING, ONE SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT IS PRETTY STABLE, IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED UNTOUCHABLE IS PUBLIC SAFETY, MONEY, AND POLICE FUNDING IN PARTICULAR, WHICH WE ARE, WHICH WE KNOW OFTEN WORKS AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

IF WE COULD FIND A WAY TO SHOW THAT MUSIC MAKES PEOPLE SAFER, THAT'S A STABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE FIND WAYS OF SHOWING THAT AND MAKING THIS A SAFER COMMUNITY FOR EVERYBODY BY FUNDING MUSIC.

ANYONE ELSE? ONE MORE NOTE IS THAT THE, THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, UH, AND SUPPORT IS ALREADY A, CREATED A MATRIX, I BELIEVE.

AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THAT TOO.

UM, SO NOVIA AGAIN, WE WE'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR YEARS, BUT CULTURAL ARTS ALREADY HAS A BLACK ARTISTS GETTING MORE FUNDING THAN OTHER GROUPS.

SO LET'S REMEMBER THERE'S PRECEDENCE HERE.

IT'S NOT ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS.

IF THERE'S ALREADY A MATRIX IN PLACE, IS THAT RIGHT? SYLVIA, DO WE HAVE THAT RIGHT? A LOT OF GROUPS, DO YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL MARKETING SUPPLEMENT, BUT ALSO A MARGIE IS HELPING US RE ENVISION REIMAGINE A NEW CULTURAL FUNDING PROCESS BECAUSE IT TOO WILL BE SENT HER ON EQUITY.

AND SO THE TIMING IS RIGHT.

UM, AS OF TODAY, YES, WE USE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL MARKETING SUPPLEMENT, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE MOVING FORWARD.

SO I THINK THIS IS PERFECT TIMING BECAUSE WE WANT TO SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL OUR HOTEL OCCUPANT, LET'S SEE TAX FUNDED PROGRAMS. THANK YOU.

MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM.

ANYONE ELSE? WELL THAT WE CAN

[3.b. Discussion and Possible Action following presentation by Margie Reese of MJR Partners on Roles and Goals for the Music Commission, Live Music Fund Working Group and City Staff.]

THAT WOULD BE THREE, BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY MARGIE, REESE OF M J OUR PARTNERS ON ROLES AND GOALS FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP AND CITY STAFF.

SO HAND IT OVER TO MARGIE.

WOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ALREADY, JUST LISTENING AND TAKING NOTES ON THIS CONVERSATION.

SO I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SIT IN ON YOUR MEETING.

UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT, UH, TO THE IDEA THAT A IS SEPARATE FROM B ON PAPER COULD BE TRUE, BUT IN REALITY, UM, THESE TWO CONCEPTS ARE ATTACHED AT THE HIP.

THEY'RE JOINED AT THE HIP.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE, UM, THE IDEA OF THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, I THINK A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS ARTICULATED IT, UM, PRETTY WELL, GRAHAM AND GAVIN, THAT THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS TO ENVISION, RIGHT, IS TO ENVISION A SECTOR THAT IS HEALTHY, UH, TO IMAGINE WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND TO WORK WITH THE CITY STAFF, TO CREATE THE SYSTEM AND THE STRUCTURE FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

AND SO THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS YOU GUYS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I SAY GUYS, BUT YOU ARE DOING EXACTLY YOUR ROLE.

WOULD YOU HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS, HIGHER LEVEL THINKING CONVERSATION? WHAT DOES THE MUSIC INDUSTRY INDUSTRIES THAT SUPPORT MUSIC? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? AND WHAT'S OUR TIMEFRAME FOR THIS IMAGINARY IMAGINARY JOURNEY? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TODAY? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SAY IN FIVE YEARS AND WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE IN 10? SO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE COME TO THIS PLACE DURING THIS REALLY UNSTABLE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OMICS AND HEALTH AND ALL THAT, YOU'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ENVISION IS SPECIFIC ATTENTION, YOU AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIAN.

UM, SO I WANT TO START THERE AND ECHO THAT IT IS GOING TO BE THE, STAFF'S THE THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE PROCEDURES ABOUT HOW TO STRUCTURE THIS VISION THAT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH.

UM, EVERYTHING FROM RISK MANAGEMENT TO LEGAL AND INSURANCE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS UP AND DOWN THE CITY HALL CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE THE STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STRUCTURE THAT'S PUT TOGETHER CAN WITHSTAND THAT PROCESS.

BUT HERE'S THE THING I WANT TO START TALKING ABOUT

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TONIGHT.

TODAY IS THE BIG IDEA FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION GOING FORWARD.

WHEN I, WHEN I READ A FIRST ON THIS AGENDA, I THINK A IS A, IS A BURNING GOAL TO REPAIR AND ADDRESS HISTORIC NEGLECT.

THAT'S HUGE, THE HUGE CONCEPT, RIGHT? AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE WITH AN ACTION.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME SEQUENCING AND OVER TIME, WHAT ARE THE PILLARS AND GOALS THAT WILL LEAD US TO, TO GET INTO SOME SOLUTIONS ON THERE? SO I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF ADDRESSING THE HISTORICAL NEGLECT, UM, AND REPAIRING THE HISTORICAL NEGLECT.

BUT HERE'S WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD ME IN THIS CONVERSATION.

AND MY FIRST QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE FOR US TO TIME OURSELVES, BUT TO TALK ABOUT THE GOALS OF THE TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING TOGETHER AND WHAT YOU'VE SAID ALREADY IS THIS.

SO LET'S WORDSMITH THIS A LITTLE BIT TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.

WOW.

I WROTE DOWN FROM YOUR OWN WORDS IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE BLACK MUSIC INDUSTRY, BLACK MUSICIANS, AND THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN.

CAUSE I'M MIXING, YOU SAID YOU WANT TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS BLACK MUSICIANS AND THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN.

AND SOMEBODY RIPPED THAT APART FOR ME, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT.

AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY AS YOUR OVERALL GOAL? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THE, THE QUESTIONS AND THE BIG IDEA, UM, IN REALLY WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO PUT THIS ON THE SCREEN OR NO? UM, YOU WERE ABLE TO PUT YOUR SLIDES ON THE SCREEN, BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO SHARE A SCREEN AND LIKE WRITE DOWN ALL THESE WORDS AND YOU KNOW, LIKE A MAGIC BOARD OR SOMETHING.

WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON THIS SYSTEM.

IF HE'S LIKE, WE DID SEND THE PRESENTATION YESTERDAY, THOUGH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT TO GO ON THE SCREEN AT ANY TIME, JUST SAY, OKAY, DID IT DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE THIS LIST, THE CONDITION? DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES THAT YOU SENT TO ME? WE DON'T NEED IT ON THE SCREEN.

I'M SORRY.

SO COMMISSIONERS THESE TWO, SIX, EIGHT BULLETS OVER TIME, I'VE LOST EVERYBODY NOW, UM, IS WHAT WE'RE WANT TO SPEND OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT.

SO I WANNA SEE IF WE CAN NAIL DOWN WHAT WE THINK THE GOAL OF OUR SPENDING TIME TOGETHER LOOKS LIKE.

UM, AND, AND, AND IT IS TO ARTICULATE THE LARGER FRAMEWORK.

WHAT IS THE BIG IDEA THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD? SO I'M GOING BACK TO SAY, I WANT TO START WITH THIS, UM, UH, THE STRONG PERSON FRAMEWORK THAT I'M REPEATING FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU.

SO WE CAN TOGETHER DECIDE IF WE AGREE ON THIS AS OUR GOAL IS THE GOAL OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND THESE CONVERSATIONS TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK, A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE.

YES, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT IT INTO ONE THING.

WE'LL GO, UH, I THINK THE VERY SPECIFIC BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND AND ADDRESSING THAT HISTORICAL DEBT IS A SINGLE SINGULAR AND SPECIFIC GOAL.

I THINK A BROADER AND PARALLEL OR A JOINED GOAL, UH, IS A COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY PLAN THAT LOOKS DECADES IN THE FUTURE SETTING PRECEDENT FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ADDRESSING, UH, VARIOUS HISTORICAL DEBTS.

WE HAVE A SHORT TERM GOAL OF INJECTING IMMEDIATE MONEY INTO BLACK, UM, THE BLACK MUSIC COMMUNITY HERE, UH, A LONGTERM GOAL, NOT ONLY REPAIRING THAT, BUT LOOKING BROADLY AND HOLISTICALLY AT THE VARIOUS HISTORICAL DEBTS THAT EQUITY.

I MEAN, WE, WE SEE OUR, OUR GENDER IMBALANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN MUSIC IS, IS STREAM.

WE HAVE TWO WOMEN ON THE MUSIC MISSION OUT OF 11 IT'S, ANECDOTALLY 99 OUT OF A HUNDRED DRUMMERS, I MEET ARE GONNA BE MEN.

99 OUT OF A HUNDRED ARE GOING TO THE GUITARS ARE GONNA BE MAD.

WE CAN SEE THAT.

AND I THINK IT STARTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF MUSIC EDUCATION AND YOU SEE, UH, RACIAL

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AND GENDER INEQUITIES IN, IN THAT.

UM, SO WE, WE CAN'T, I MEAN, NONE OF US THINK THAT WE CAN ON THIS COMMISSION FIXED RACISM OR FIXED MISOGYNY.

UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE GOALS FOR HOW WE LEAD IN THAT DIRECTION TO OUR MORE EQUITABLE USE OF COMMUNITY.

LET ME PUSH BACK.

YOU NOT AGAINST YOU, BUT WITH YOU GRANT, UM, AT THE HIGHEST ORDER OF OUR THINKING, WE'RE ABLE TO DESIGN TOGETHER AN OVERARCHING STATEMENT THAT IS OUR NORTH STAR, THAT DOESN'T SEPARATE GENDER, UH, MUSIC, EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.

I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU'RE YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT YOUR PRIORITY, ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES IS TO ADDRESS, UM, THE MARGINALIZATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIAN.

AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE SPACE FOR THESE OTHER, UM, FOCUS AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

SO WHEN I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE AS A GOAL STATEMENT, CREATING A STRUCTURE, NOT INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW AND NOT INDIVIDUAL RESPONSES RIGHT NOW, WE'LL QUICKLY GET TO THOSE, BUT AN OVERARCHING STATEMENT THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION IS ABLE TO SPEAK AND COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.

WHAT IS THE MUSIC COMMISSION FOCUS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS OR GOING FORWARD FROM THIS DAY, IF I'M WRONG ABOUT THIS OVERARCHING STATEMENT, BUT I'M NOT YET TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, HOW WE ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE WILL, IF THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND STRENGTHENS THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE WHAT'S MISSING, IS THAT A COMPREHENSIVE ENOUGH CONCEPT FOR ALL OF US TO BUY INTO AND GET TO WORK ON? REMEMBER, I WANT US TO RESIST THE TEMPTATION.

I'M GOING TO SOLUTION FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE WHEN WE GO TO THAT PLACE WHERE WE FORGET SOMETHING, WHEN WE DON'T TAKE THE TIME TO BUILD THAT SCAFFOLDED RESPONSE, SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE SAME WAY THAT SUPPORTING AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS SPECIFICALLY IS, IS MORE THAN JUST CREATING A FUN, THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU JUST HAD ABOUT THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS, UM, UH, THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND AND THE SPACE RE YOU KNOW, DISASTER RELIEF FOR SPACE ALLOCATIONS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO BE INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.

UM, BUT I THINK WHAT I WANT US TO, TO DO OVER THE NEXT TWO OR THREE TIMES ONE IS TO WORDSMITH.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS YOUR MISSION FOR WORKING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR UMBRELLA GOAL IS, AND IT CANNOT BE.

AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S GOTTA BE SO COMPREHENSIVE THAT EVERYTHING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOES IS SUPPORT.

MUSICIANS HAS GOTTA BE IN SERVICE OF THIS GOAL OF THIS OVERARCHING MISSION.

SO MARGIE, I HAD A, SOME, SOME CONSIDERATIONS FOR OUR GROUP, AS FAR AS THE WORDING, UH, WERE, AS YOU SAID, CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS BLACK MUSICIANS IN THE OVERALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

I'M LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE WORD FRAMES IN LIEU OF SUPPORT.

SO IT WOULD READ, CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT FRAMES BLACK MUSIC IN THE OVERALL INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

TELL ME WHY FRAMES.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT FRAMES IS A, I CAN'T TELL ME WHY YOU USE THAT WORD IN THIS CONTEXT FOR THIS BODY TO LEAD SUPPORT.

TO ME SOUNDS MORE AS A FOLLOWING TERM, UH, AND NO ONE ELSE IS LEADING THIS CONVERSATION IN THE CITY.

SO EXCEPT WE GOT FROM THIS BODY THROUGH SHOTGUN.

SO THAT, THAT WAS MY, UH, MY THINKING ON THAT, LIKE YOUR THINKING AND, UH, RAISE YOUR WORDS BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO WORDS THAT I PINNED WHILE YOU, YOU, WHILE THE COMMISSIONERS WERE TALKING WAS ELEVATE AND PROMOTE THAT'S,

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THAT'S GREAT, LIKE ELEVATE, UH, ETHICS, THAT'S A LEAD WORD AS IT'S, UM, SUPPORTS AND PROMOTES TO ME FOLLOW, I GUESS, A LITTLE TRAIL BEHIND SOMEBODY ELSE'S MOMENTUM.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S WORK ON A MORE POWER PACKED LEADERSHIP WORD.

I'LL INSERT ELEVATE FOR NOW, AND WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES LATER TO CHEW ON THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH, BECAUSE MY CONVERSATIONS AND LISTENING TO SHAKA, HE HAS THE ABILITY TO IMPART A CERTAIN STUDENTS OF, UM, UM, URGENCY ABOUT THIS WORK.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, WHAT I'M ALSO HEARING FROM GRAHAM IS THIS, WE NEED TO DO THIS THING NOW.

SO IF I CAN RAISE THE CONVERSATION TO THINKING THAT UNDER THE FRAMEWORK FOR OUR DISCUSSIONS, FOR THE BIG IDEA THAT THAT I'VE SHARED WITH YOU, OR THAT YOU HAVE, UM, I WANT TO GET EVERYBODY'S OKAY.

THAT WE CAN, UM, HOLD FOR NOW, THE CONCEPT THAT THE GOAL OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT ELEVATES AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS AND PROMOTES MAYBE THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY, AUSTIN.

NOT THAT THAT ISN'T ALREADY HAPPENING.

I LIKE THAT SO FAR.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM HASN'T SAID ANYTHING YET.

REALLY? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? THANK YOU.

IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SCRIBBLE DOWN WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I, UH, DO YOU THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT IN OUR WORK, IN THE, UM, IN THIS WORKING GROUP TO FOCUS ON HOW TO COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF AUSTIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF BLACK CULTURE, BLACK MUSIC CULTURE IN OUR CITY? I DON'T WANT, UM, THE TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY TO BE THAT WE'RE ONLY, UM, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP JUST INDIVIDUAL MUSICIANS.

AND NOT THAT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT, THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE FOR ANYBODY THAT PAYS ATTENTION TO MUSIC AND AUSTIN TO COME AWAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, BLACK MUSIC IS, IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE MUSIC CULTURE HERE IN AUSTIN, AND THAT IT SHOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE CITYWIDE SUPPORT FOR, UM, THAT, THAT PART OF OUR, OUR, OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY HERE.

SO I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE GOAL OF THIS GROUP IS TO, YOU KNOW, EDUCATE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, CREATE ENTHUSIASM FOR OUR WORK.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, AND, AND SO I WANT YOU TO, TO CONSIDER THAT THIS GOAL, AND I REALIZED THAT I'M LIKE THE THIRD GRADE TEACHER, I KEEP HAMMERING AWAY TO MAKE SURE WE ALL AGREE FOR NORTHSTAR IS, UM, THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ADVOCACY AND COMMUNICATION ELEMENTS OF THIS STRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD, WHICH IS WHY THE CREATING OF THE FUND IS ONLY ONE PART OF OUR WORK.

ISN'T IT? SO THE STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ADDING TO, IT INCLUDES A COMPONENT THAT CREATES A FUND, AN AMERICAN MUSICIAN CREATE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION ELEMENT, ADVOCACY STRATEGY, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO COME.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD FROM GRAHAM THAT I MADE A NOTE OF WAS IT SHOULD ALSO BE A STRUCTURE THAT LOOKS AT, UM, PUBLIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR ARTS MUSIC LEARNING FOR, FOR YOUNGER MUSICIANS.

YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO, SO THE, THE UMBRELLA THAT YOU CARRY AROUND HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT SPOKES, DOESN'T IT? UM, CAN I SIGN OFF RIGHT.

FOR RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A WORKING DRAFT OF WHAT OUR OVERARCHING GOAL IS OF THE COMMISSION, CREATING THE STRUCTURE, ELEVATING AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSIC, AMERICAN MUSIC, AND PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN, PROMOTING AND SUPPORTING.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK YOU JUST SAID PROMOTING EARLIER, I THINK BOTH WERE, I THINK LEADING AND FOLLOWING ARE IMPORTANT.

WE'VE GOT A STRUGGLING INDUSTRY, UH, OVERALL, REGARDLESS OF, OF, UH, OF THE OTHER ISSUES OR TIME OUT.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY PROMOTING IT, BUT SUPPORTING IT SO THAT THE OVERLYING INDUSTRY SURVIVE.

SO WE HAVE AN EQUITABLE FUTURE IN A THRIVING MUSIC COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A TEN SECOND PAUSE

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UM, IF SOMEONE ELSE NEEDS TO, TO READ IT AND LOOK AT IT, TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M GIVING THE RIGHT INFLECTIONS ON THIS.

I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO AGREE IN A FEW MORE MINUTES NOW THAT IF I TAKE THIS OVERARCHING FRAMEWORK STATEMENT BACK TO THE STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU TO CREATE THAT STRUCTURE THAT MEETS, UM, THIS OVERARCHING GOAL.

SO, UM, WELL CAN SAY THIS AGAIN, INSTEAD OF ME, THE WORDS THAT WE'RE WANTING ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO INGEST AND PUSH BACK OUT THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION IS TO, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL ON ANYBODY.

YOU KNOW, I'M A SCHOOL TEACHER, SO I CAN'T HELP IT.

UM, BUT I'M GONNA HOLD MY HANDS TYPE IN THAT POINT.

UH, I NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO, TO VOICE THIS COMMITMENT.

CAN YOU READ WHAT YOU HAVE ONE MORE TIME? SURE.

CREATE A STRUCTURE AND I'M NOT GIVING THE PREAMBLE.

THE ROLE OF THE MUSIC PERMISSION IS TO CREATE A STRUCTURE THAT ELEVATES AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSIC AND PROMOTES AND SUPPORTS THE OVERALL MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN.

KEEP IN MIND THAT SOME HOT SHOT MARKETING PERSON WILL GET THEIR HANDS ON THIS AND MAKE SURE THE WORDS ARE IN THE RIGHT ORDER AND ALL THAT.

BUT THIS IS OUR FRAMEWORK.

THE STATEMENT, CAN I ASK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT CONNECTING HERE, OR MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S IN MY MIND WHEN I HEAR WE TALK MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN AUSTIN INCLUDES AFRICAN AMERICANS IN POSITIONS OF POWER? IS THAT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S IN THERE, OR DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE INDUSTRY AS IF IT'S SOME DISEMBODIED THING, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A DISEMBODIED THING, WHICH ONE USING THE WORD INDUSTRIES INSTEAD OF INDUSTRY, UM, SO THAT IT COULD INCLUDE THE PUBLIC SECTOR, THE PRIVATE SECTOR, FOLK MUSIC, TRADITIONAL MUSIC, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS, UM, THE CRE THE CREATIVE ENGINEERING ASPECT IS A PART OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES.

RIGHT? SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN CREATE A STATEMENT THAT WILL POINT TO EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF CONCERN THAT WE WANT TO MANAGE, WHICH IS WHY WE GOTTA HAVE IT AS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF AS UMBRELLA ISSUE AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT BEING AN INTEREST OF YOURS, UM, ON WARREN.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE START BUILDING OUT THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ADDRESS THESE THINGS, BUT FOR NOW IT'S OUR ELEVATOR.

SO I HAVE A FEW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE WANT TO PARSE THE EXACT WORDS, BUT, UM, I WORRY THAT, UH, BLACK MUSIC WITHOUT, UH, SAYING COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING, OH, I'M NOT RACIST.

I LIKE JAMES BROWN, OR I LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON FOREVER.

SO LIKE JUST SAYING, WE ELEVATE BLACK MUSIC.

PEOPLE ALREADY THINK THAT THEY DO THAT.

WHEREAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE AND THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS NOT THERE.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE GOT BLACK MUSIC, COMMUNITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO INDUSTRY HAS SORT OF A SPECIFIC ME, MEANING I THINK, IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

UH, AND, UH, SO I WONDER THERE AS WELL, SOMETHING LIKE MUSIC INDUSTRIES AND COMMUNITIES, UH, IN THE SECOND HALF AS WELL, BECAUSE INDUSTRY IS TRADITIONALLY SEEN AS DEMAND.

SO TO SPEAK THAT THE BIG BANG, THE PEOPLE IN POWER AND NOT NECESSARILY THAT HAVE PETROL MUSICIANS, THE MUSICIANS ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE INDUSTRY, UM, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION INITIATIVE TO BE THOROUGH

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AND TO DO ITS JOB.

UM, I, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU CREATE A STRONG ENOUGH STATEMENT, YOU CAN SCAFFOLD UNDERNEATH IT AS MANY OF THE CONCERNS AND A WAY OF WORK TO ADDRESS THEM AS YOU NEED.

I WOULD OFFER THAT IF YOU GET TOO SPECIFIC IN YOUR OVERALL GOAL, YOU WILL BE EXCLUSIVE.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OXYMORON, DOESN'T IT? BUT YOU CAN LEAVE MORE THINGS OUT, START NAMING ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHEN WE LEAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, WE WANT TO AGREE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SAY TO ERICA, UM, LET'S NAIL THIS.

WE'LL WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ALLOW OURSELVES A CHANCE TO REVISIT AND MASSAGE A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO CREATE THE BANNER FROM WHICH WE CONTINUE THIS WORK.

I JUST HAD A QUICK, QUICK THOUGHT.

UM, THE WORD THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE.

WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY, UM, NOT ONLY MUSICIANS, BUT ALSO TALENT BUYERS, SOUND, ENGINEERS, LIGHTING DESIGNERS, THE WHOLE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S LACKING IS THESE MUSICIANS AREN'T GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY AS THEIR WHITE COUNTERPARTS ARE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY BLACK, UH, SOUND ENGINEERS OR TALENT BUYERS.

AND THAT'S THE ISSUE.

IT'S NOT THAT, UM, THEY'RE NOT PRESENT.

IT'S JUST, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY.

THEY'RE NOT THE ONES, UM, WHO COME TO MIND, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO LIKE WHAT GRAHAM WAS SAYING WHEN YOU ARE AUDITIONING FOR A BAND 99 OUT OF A HUNDRED DRUMMERS ARE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR ARE GOING TO BE MALE.

SO I THINK CREATING OPPORTUNITY IS I BELIEVE THE OVERALL GOAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, WITH HIS STATEMENT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT CREATING OPPORTUNITIES IS ONE ASPECT OF THE WORK AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSICIAN MUSICIANSHIP, FOR ENGINEERING, FOR EVERY ASPECT OF THE INDUSTRY.

I CAUTION USING THE WORD OPPORTUNITY AS IT RELATES TO AFRICAN AMERICAN.

SPECIFICALLY.

NOW, HERE WE ARE HERE.

I AM TAKING YOU INTO THE WORLD OF CULTURAL SENSITIVITY, RIGHT? UM, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS.

THE GAP IS NOT SO MUCH AN OPPORTUNITY GAP.

IT'S AN ACCESS GAP.

UM, SO, UH, LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT LANGUAGE AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT, UM, UH, AS UNBIASED AS WE CAN WANT TO KEEP IT AS SPECIFIC AND SUCCINCT AS WE CAN.

I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, UM, THAT WAS WHEN WE COME BACK TO LOOKING AT, UM, UH, PROMOTING THE INDUSTRY ITSELF, ELEVATING MUSICIANSHIP, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COME TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS, I'M MAKING MYSELF A NOTE THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ACCESS POINTS, MORE ACCESS POINTS FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS, FOR FEMALE MUSICIANS, FOR YOUNG MUSICIANS, ET CETERA.

IS THAT, IS THAT A FEAR? YEP.

LOVE IT.

UM, 10 MORE MINUTES BEFORE WE HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THIS, BUT THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, YOU GUYS IS DIGGING IN.

UH, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER FOLKS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HEAR FROM, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE CHAIR, UH, TO REMIND ME WHOSE VOICES I HAVEN'T HEARD.

I THINK MOST EVERYONE IS SPOKE IN SOME DEGREE ABOUT, ABOUT THIS.

UM, I'M STRUGGLING TO COME UP WITH THE PERFECT LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS LIKE A, A STICKING POINT.

UM, BUT I THINK I, I LIKE TO TERM ELEVATE A LOT BECAUSE THAT JUST IS ASPIRATIONAL IN A LOT OF WAYS.

UM, BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE PHRASING, WHO WE'RE ELEVATING, WHAT WE'RE ELEVATING.

AND I THINK IF WE GET THAT PART RIGHT, WE'RE GOLDEN.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE WANT TO ELEVATE BLACK MUSICIANS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ELEVATE BLACK MUSICAL CULTURE.

WE ALSO WANT TO ELEVATE BLACK, UM, JOBS WITHIN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY OR, YOU KNOW, OR JUST JOBS AND WITHIN

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THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, BUT TO EVERYONE ELSE'S POINT WHEN YOU STARTED TO SAY INDUSTRY, THAT'S VERY, ALMOST ELITIST BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE, THERE'S, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE GATEKEEPERS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY LETTING EVERYONE INTO THE INDUSTRY.

I LIKED THE WORD COMMUNITY A LOT IN THAT REGARD.

UM, BECAUSE I ALWAYS FELT THAT AUSTIN, AUSTIN HAS HISTORICALLY ALWAYS LACKED MUSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE'VE NOT LACKED COMMUNITY, BUT THAT'S WHERE AUSTIN HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGED.

ECONOMICALLY.

MUSICALLY IS WE DON'T HAVE THE BREAKOUT STARS AND ESPECIALLY WE DON'T HAVE BLACK BREAKOUT STARS.

GARY CLARK JR.

IS AS CLOSE AS WE GOT, YOU KNOW, JACKIE'S DOING WELL, BUT SHE'S NOT BROKEN OUT NATIONALLY YET.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S TRUE.

VERY TRUE.

BUT THEY'RE ALSO VERY NEW, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN TO, YEAH.

BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PRECEDENT.

THERE IS, I GUESS MY POINT.

SO I WANNA, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, AND IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN HAS ISSUES WITH GENRES.

YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS NOT A HIP HOP FRIENDLY CITY.

AUSTIN IS NOT NECESSARILY, UH, A HEAVY METAL FRIENDLY CITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THAT SINGER SONGWRITER, INDIE ROCK THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MOST OF THE TIME THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS, OBVIOUSLY.

SO I WANT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE USING LANGUAGE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY INCLUSIVE, BUT THAT KINDA NAILS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY, MY PERSPECTIVE AND I DON'T HAVE THE PERFECT WORDS YET.

SO THAT'S, WE'LL KEEP THINKING ABOUT THOSE RICK AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, UH, THE ROLE OF THIS PROCESS IN REEDUCATING, THE COMMUNITY, THE COMPANY, UM, THE MUSIC INDUSTRIES IN, UM, IN EVERY CULTURE HAS A DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK.

UM, WHEN I THINK ABOUT USING THE WORD COMMUNITY, I RECOGNIZE THAT IN MANY CIRCLES, THE WORD COMMUNITY IS CODE OR THE OTHER IT'S CODE FOR SOMEONE ELSE IT'S CODE FOR LESS THING.

AND SO WHEN I AM ASKED TO THINK ABOUT THIS, I WANT EVERY, I WANT EVERY BONE IN OUR BODIES TO PENETRATE WHAT'S.

THE ELITIST DEFINITION OF MUSIC INDUSTRY IS I WANT US TO CHALLENGE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND REDEFINE ITS USEFULNESS TO THE RESIDENT, THE MUSICIAN, THE ARTISTS, THE CONSUMER IN AUSTIN.

AND SO IF THAT WORD HAS A CONNOTATION RIGHT NOW, IT'S A PERFECT TARGET FOR OUR WORK TO DECODE IT AND TO DEMYSTIFY IT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIAN, THE FEMALE MUSICIAN, IT'S CETERA, CAN PARTICIPATE IN WHAT WE CALL THE ELITE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

AND I THINK I'M STILL GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN'T ADOPT THE WORD INDUSTRIES AGAIN IN OUR QUEST TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

IF WE CAN'T PENETRATE THAT AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE, UH, PIECE OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT I'VE GIVEN IT MY TIME, YOUR TIME.

I WANT YOU TO SIT WITH THIS.

I WONDER ERICA, IF WE, YOU AND I COULD SEND BACK TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, MAYBE AS EARLY AS TOMORROW.

YES, WE WILL WORK ON, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? I'M SORRY, MY DAUGHTER JUST ASKED ME A QUESTION FOR THE FIRST TIME.

NO, NO, NO.

I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD JUST SEND BACK THIS STATEMENT THAT THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, AS EARLY AS TOMORROW AND GIVE THE MEMBERS ANOTHER SHOT AT IT, TALK TO YOUR COLLEAGUES AND FRIENDS ABOUT IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, GET SOME INPUT FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE NOT HERE WORKING WITH MEMBERS, ET CETERA.

THAT'S NOT TAKING, AM I STILL ON? LET'S NOT TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME WITH IT, BUT IF I CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS ONE THING TODAY, THEN THE NEXT MEETING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUTCOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKING THIS TIME HAS JUST BEEN REALLY PRECIOUS FOR ME TO HEAR YOU TALK.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD COME TO SOME CONSENSUS BY THE END OF THIS WEEK ON WHAT OUR BIG IDEA, A FRAMEWORK STATEMENT, OUR GOAL STATEMENT IS.

SO I'M GOING TO TURN

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IT BACK TO THE CHAIR.

UM, AND, UM, THIS IS MY SEGMENT OF THE WORKING, UH, WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TODAY, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH ONLINE FRAMEWORK SHEET OF BULLETS THAT I, THAT I USED TO HAVE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH MORE THAN ONE IN OUR NEXT WORK SESSION, BUT THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME BECAUSE THIS STATEMENT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING OVER NOW IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS TO WORK WITH.

UM, SO NAVEA AND HER, HER LEADERSHIP TEAM TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO OPERATIONALIZE THIS GOAL, UH, THAT YOU GUYS ARE ARTICULATING.

SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO GET THIS GOAL STATEMENT IN DRAFT AS A DRAFT, ONE MORE CHANCE FOR YOU TO PUSH BACK ON ANYTHING THAT I'M THINKING AND SAYING, AND ADD NEW WORDS, AND THEN LET'S GET IT BACK TO US BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

IS THAT A FAIR THING TO REQUEST MR. CHAIR? THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MARGIN.

AND SO I GUESS WITH THAT, WE HAVE OUR, WE HAVE OUR HOMEWORK TO DO, AND THAT'S, THAT'LL ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

WE CAN GO TO OUR LAST ORDER OF OLD BUSINESS THEN, WHICH WOULD BE A THREE C

[3.c. Discussion and possible action following a presentation on the Music Preservation Fund by Rebecca Reynolds, Music Venue Alliance.]

DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION ON THE MUSIC PRESERVATION FUND BY REBECCA REYNOLDS MUSIC VENUE ALLIANCE.

SO DO WE HAVE REBECCA WITH US, REBECCA? HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME LEFT AND I DO HAVE TWO THINGS I WANT TO SAY.

UM, THE FIRST BEING I'M HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON OUR NEWEST EFFORT TO GET DISASTER RELIEF FOR VENUES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS EFFORT SINCE THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE CANCELLATION AT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

UM, IT'S GONE THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS AND WHAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY, AND WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS OUR MOST RECENT ITERATION OF THAT EFFORT.

UM, BASED ON CITIZENS, COMMUNICATION, CALLER, NUMBER TWO, UM, STATED WHAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK WHICH IS VENUES ARE OKAY, THAT SOMEBODY'S LOOKING OUT FOR THEM AND WHAT THE TRUTH IS THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND COUNCIL HAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THREE DIFFERENT TIMES THAT A VENUE DISASTER RELIEF FUND IS NECESSARY AND APPROPRIATE.

AND YET WE STILL DON'T HAVE ONE.

UM, DESPITE THE FACT THAT MUSICIAN GRANTS ARE ALREADY COMING IN THE MAIL, WHICH IS FANTASTIC AND DEFINITELY NECESSARY INAPPROPRIATE.

SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TO, TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE, WITH THE VENUE PIECE OF THIS.

BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR ME TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PRESENTATION BASED ON THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION.

AND SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST INTRODUCE OUR, OUR EFFORTS.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING NEW.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SORT OF FOLD IN THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WITH THIS, WITH THIS ITEM.

AND THAT IS TO SAY HOW, UH, ESTABLISHING A PLACE FOR BLACK MUSIC APPLIES TO THIS VENUE PRESERVATION FUND AND NBA IN THE WORK THAT I DO FOR THE MUSIC VENUE ALLIANCE SPECIFICALLY.

UM, I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHY BLACK MUSIC, UM, DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE.

AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PEOPLE IN THE BLACK MUSIC COMMUNITY ON ESTABLISHING A SPACE SO THAT BLACK BUSINESS OWNERS CAN HIRE BLACK ARTISTS AND BLACK TALENT BUYERS AND BLACK SOUND ENGINEERS.

AND WE CAN ALL BENEFIT AND, AND ENJOY AS A COMMUNITY, WHAT THAT WAS BRINGING OVERALL TO AUSTIN.

AND SO ANOTHER MISCONCEPTION I HEAR A LOT IS IT'S SOMETHING OUR CHAIRMAN SAID, WHICH IS THAT AUSTIN IS NOT HIP HOP FRIENDLY.

AND I THINK, UM, MUSICIANS WHO WORK IN THAT GENRE KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF DRAW FOR HIP HOP IN AUSTIN, BUT THERE'S NO PLACE FOR IT IN EXISTING VENUE SPACE.

UM, MY EXPERIENCE OF TRYING TO ESTABLISH A SPACE FOR BLACK MUSIC HAS BEEN CHALLENGING AND I'M NEW TO THE GAME.

UM, WHAT I KNOW IS THAT WHEN WE TRY TO APPROACH LANDOWNERS ABOUT GETTING A LEASE FOR BLACK MUSIC, UM, CENTRIC BUSINESSES, THE COMMUNICATION GOES DARK.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH REAL ESTATE AND LAND OWNERS WHO AREN'T RESISTANT TO CREATING SPACE IN OUR BUILDINGS FOR BLACK MUSIC.

WE NOW ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE IT'S GOTTEN SO BAD BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUYING UP ENTIRE BLOCKS OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HISTORICALLY, UM, BLACK MUSIC TOOK PLACE.

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THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS THAT FEATURES BLACK MUSIC IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS OF A LIKELIHOOD.

SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY I'VE WORKED WITH OR NOT WORKED WITH AT LEAST TRIED TO START CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, COUNSELED STAFF, TO USE SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED RECENTLY AS SPACES THAT THE CITY COULD PURCHASE FOR CULTURAL SPACES AND DEDICATE ONE OF THOSE TO A BLACK MUSIC VENUE.

BUT WHAT I WOULD RATHER SEE IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BLACK MUSIC VENUE AND NOT JUST ONE, BUT, BUT MANY, UM, BLACK MUSIC IS NOT MONOLITHIC AND HIP HOP AND AUSTIN IS NOT MONOLITHIC.

SO I JUST WANT TO COMMIT MYSELF AND MVA AND WHATEVER VENUE PRESERVATION FUND WE'RE ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER TO FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF SPACE FOR BLACK MUSIC OWNED, OPERATED, CURATED FOR ALL OF US TO ENJOY.

AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION FOR THE PROPOSAL THAT I GAVE YOU, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TIME TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THAT, BUT WITH WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE LAST TIME I'M AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTION.

I WANT TO JUMP IN REAL QUICK.

UM, REBECCA, THANKS FOR OFFERING THAT, IS THAT NOT, NOT 99% OF THE VENUES IN AUSTIN PLAYED BLACK MUSIC ROCK AND ROLL IS BLACK MUSIC.

JAZZ IS BLACK MUSIC.

THE ISSUE IS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ONE FOR BLACK PEOPLE.

THEY'RE NOT THERE.

THEY'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE PLAYING BLACK MUSIC, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AT ANTON'S.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AT STUBS.

THAT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY, THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO RENT TO, THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEND IS NOT THE GENRE OR THE MUSIC THAT'S BEING PLAYED.

IT'S THE ACTUAL PEOPLE AND THE SYSTEMIC RACISM AND ANTI-BLACKNESS THAT, UH, THAT PEOPLE, UH, FACE AND THAT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE BLACK MUSIC IS, IS THE, IS WHAT PEOPLE MAKE, PLAY BLUES MUSIC WHEN THEY PLAY JAZZ MUSIC, UM, COUNTRY MUSIC, UM, THESE THINGS ARE HISTORICALLY CONNECTED AND ROOTED IN A BLACK CULTURE AND BLACK COMMUNITY.

SO ALL THE MAJORITY OF THE MUSIC, UM, PLAYED IN AUSTIN ON A NIGHTLY BASIS IS BLACK MUSIC ISSUE WITH IT.

THERE'S NO INVESTMENT IN THE FOLKS THAT CREATED THIS BEAUTIFUL CULTURE THAT WE ALL ENJOY.

AND, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A ANTI-BLACKNESS THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM FINDING OPPORTUNITIES LIKE OPENING VENUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON FRAMING THAT YES, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU.

AND MY, UH, MY USE OF THAT AS A GOAL WAS BASED ON, UM, ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN OUR LIVE MUSIC, UH, FINE WORKING GROUP, WHERE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BLACK LIVE MUSIC FIND USE FOR IS ESTABLISHING A BLACK OWNED VENUE.

AND SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO.

RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

I THINK YOU KEPT SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE RESISTANT TO BLACK MUSIC.

IT'S NOT BLACK MUSIC.

IT'S, IT'S BLACK PEOPLE AND BLACK OWNERSHIP THAT THEY'RE RESISTANT TO.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING AND WHAT I'M SAYING? I, YES.

SO TO CLARIFY WHAT I MEANT WAS BLACK OWNED, UH, BUSINESSES WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS, REBECCA, UM, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER THE FINE POINTS OF THE PRESERVATION PLANS, BUT CAN YOU HIT LIKE SOME MAJOR ONES JUST SO THAT WE'RE UP TO SPEED.

I KNOW WE HAD A PRELIMINARY RESOLUTION DRAFT THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT IS NOW OUTDATED AND THERE'S A NEW, UM, A NEW TASK.

SO CAN, YOU CAN JUST KINDA GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL KIND OF OVERVIEW.

FEDERAL MONEY COMING DOWN TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, THAT WE CAN USE TO NOW, UM, DEDICATE FOR A VENUE, DISASTER RELIEF HAVE, HAS COUNSEL BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY FUTURE SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THIS? SO, SO THAT IS WHAT IS IN OUR NEW PROPOSAL.

SO, YEAH.

SO WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT BACK IN MARCH, WE WERE ASKED TO PRESENT WHAT A VENUE DISASTER RELIEF FUND MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

AND THAT WAS, THAT STARTED WITH THE $170 MILLION OF CARE SPENDING THAT CAME DOWN.

SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN BACK IN APRIL, AND IN FACT, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE VERY FIRST CITY RESOLUTION EARMARKING MONEY OUT OF THAT 170 MILLION WOULD INCLUDE A VENUE DISASTER RELIEF THAT NOW WE'RE ON THE BACK END OF THAT 170 MILLION.

AND WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THAT MONEY IS ALL GONE.

UM, SO THE, THE FIRST RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA, UM, IS BASED ON DIRECTION THAT WE GOT FROM, FROM COUNCIL STAFF AND FROM EDD STAFF TO COME UP WITH MAYBE, UH, WHERE FUNDING COULD COME FROM.

UH, WE'VE SINCE BEEN TOLD THAT ALL THAT MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT ON, ON OTHER PROGRAMMING AND THAT WE SHOULD REWRITE OUR PROPOSAL IN A WAY THAT LOOKS FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY NEW

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AND THEN THAT IS IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT I FORWARDED TO EVERYBODY.

UM, WE ARE BEING TOLD BY COUNSEL NUMBER STAFF, THAT AND EDD STAFF, THAT IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN WILL DC WILL BE RECEIVING A NEW ROUND OF CARE SPENDING.

AND OUR NEW PROPOSAL IS BASED ON, ON THAT SCENARIO.

AND, UM, AM I CORRECT IN THAT THE TOTAL ASK AT THIS POINT IS, UH, 20 MILLION OF THAT, THAT FUND WE WERE TOLD TO, UH, YES, WE WERE TOLD BY COUNCIL STAFF TO ASK FOR THAT AMOUNT.

UM, WE CERTAINLY WILL NEED THAT AMOUNT.

UM, GIVEN THEN YOU THEY'RE GOING TO BE CLOSED LONGER THAN ANY OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESS.

UM, WE CAN STRUCTURE THE, THE APPLICATION PROCESS SO THAT IT'S A ROLLING, UM, APPLICATION.

MAYBE WE CAN APPLY FOR TWO MONTHS AT A TIME OR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AT A TIME.

AND THE LONGER, THE MANDATORY CLOSURES GO ON, UM, VENUES WHO QUALIFY CAN CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FUNDING THROUGH DISASTER RELIEF.

UM, SO THAT NUMBER AND THAT SOURCE IS BASED ON DIRECTION THAT WE GOT FROM COUNCIL STAFF.

GOOD.

DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUICK QUESTIONS FOR REBECCA WE'RE COMING RIGHT UP ON OUR TIME LIMIT? THANKS REBECCA.

FOR JOINING US, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO READ IT AND SEND YOU SOME PERSONAL QUESTIONS.

ANYONE ELSE? UM, I DID JUST GET AN EMAIL, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE, SAVE OUR STAGES ACT THAT IS BEEN INTRODUCED BY PARTISAN ACT, UM, UH, AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

REBECCA, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THAT? SO THAT WAS THE RESULT OF VERY HARD WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS OVER AT NEBA.

UM, I CAN DIRECT YOU TO SOME PEOPLE HERE IN AUSTIN, WHO, WHO HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT EFFORT.

WHAT I KNOW JUST FROM THEIR BONES IS THAT IT'S A PROPOSAL BY SENATOR JOHN CORNYN AND AMY KLOBUCHAR TO DEDICATE SPECIFIC FUNDING FOR EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ON THE LOCAL LEVEL.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WHILE WE ARE ENCOURAGED BY THE FACT THAT SOME LAWMAKERS SEE THE NEED FOR SPECIFIC AND DEDICATED VENUE FUNDING, THAT WE DON'T ALLOW THAT TO DISTRACT US FROM WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT TODAY.

BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE HAVE UNANIMOUSLY GOTTEN OUR LAWMAKERS HERE IN TOWN TO AGREE ON THREE OCCASIONS, AND YET WE STILL DON'T HAVE THE FUN.

SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE SOS EFFORT IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTACT YOUR LAWMAKERS TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME AS ASKING OUR CITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THE CREATION OF THE VENUE DISASTER RELIEF FUND HERE IN TOWN.

GOOD.

NEW TO ME THAT THAT'S A BROAD WORD, SO I'M GONNA LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE WORDS FROM COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, UH, WE'D BE GREAT TO SEE A PARALLEL PLAN, REBECCA.

ANYTHING ELSE REAL QUICK, ANYONE REBECCA SAY YOU'RE WANTING TO HIT A RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF, IN AUGUST, CORRECT MEETING DATE.

ARE THERE TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST, OR DO YOU HAVE A DATE WE WERE TOLD, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING NEWS ABOUT THE SECOND ROUND OF CARE SPENDING LATE JULY EARLY AUGUST, AND THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT, YOUR BUDGET WRITER REQUESTED THE AUGUST 27TH COUNCIL MEETING.

SO WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT NOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO WAIT FOR YET ANOTHER HYPOTHETICAL FUNDING SOURCE, AND THEN YET ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, DATE TO DISCUSS AT COUNCIL AT THE END OF AUGUST, WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING A LOT OF SPACE AND TIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET FUNDING TO THE PLACES THAT IT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED.

ANYONE ELSE? NO, I THINK, I THINK WE ALL REALIZED THAT EXISTENTIAL NATURE OF KEEPING THE VENUES OPEN FOR THE, TO THE MUSIC, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, ALTHOUGH IT WAS

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LIKE I KNOW YOU WERE TIME AT THE BLACK MUSIC, THE BLACK OWNED VENUE, UH, I, UH, PLAN THAT THE VENUE ALLIANCE WOULD HAVE TO, OR IN PARALLEL WITH THIS, UH, I, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE CURRENT MUSIC VENUES IN, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING TOWARDS EQUITY, BUT THAT THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE ALLIANCE WOULD HAVE TOWARDS MORE WOMEN OWNERSHIP, MORE BLACK OWNERSHIP, MORE LATINEX OWNERSHIP, OVERALL, A MORE EQUITABLE BALANCE AND THE OWNERSHIP.

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE? I, I DON'T KNOW.

UH, I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO ANY, ANY OF THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP WE WANT TO EXPAND, UH, THE OWNERSHIPS AND SEE THAT BE MORE EQUITABLE.

AND I WAS, AND THERE'S THIS, THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GREAT.

AND I THINK, UM, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE SUPPORTING, BUT I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE A PARALLEL EFFORT ON, ON THAT FRONT.

SO WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF VENUE OWNERSHIP AND HOW CAN, HOW CAN YOU, AND WE WORK TOGETHER TOWARDS THAT? SO HERE'S WHAT I WILL SAY.

I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ASSUME THAT THE REASON THERE'S NOT, UM, MORE, UH, DIVERSITY AMONG OWNERSHIP SOMEHOW FALLS ON THE OWNERS OF VENUES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS IS, LIKE I SAID, PREVIOUSLY IS THEIR ROADBLOCKS ARE COMING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET LEASES WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET INVESTMENTS.

SO THOSE ARE THE PLACES WHERE I AM HERE TO HELP.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASK OF OUR CURRENT VENUE OWNERS TO SOMEHOW CREATE FOR MORE WOMEN OWNED OR BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES.

I THINK THEY WOULD ALL CERTAINLY WELCOME, YOU KNOW, MORE DIVERSITY AND THE VENUE OWNERSHIP COMMUNITY.

WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING WITH IS STRUCTURAL BARRIERS.

AND THAT COMES AT GETTING INVESTMENT AND, AND GETTING ACCESS TO TWO LEASES.

YEAH, NO, THAT ALL THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.

I'M NOT EXPECTING, YOU KNOW, STEVE FROM CONTINENTAL TO BUY A VENUE AND GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE THAT'S HAPPENED.

THAT'S A WOMAN OR A PERSON OF COLOR.

WHAT, I'M MORE THINKING OF THE ALLIANCE IS THE MUSIC VENUE AND BECAUSE C GROUP, WHICH, AND YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK IN A VERY, BECOME IMMEDIATELY ESSENTIAL VOICE IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND JUST, I CAN, I CAN SEE AN AD BECAUSE SEE ROLE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR CERTAIN, THE, THESE OWNERS GET IN ROOMS WITH THESE PEOPLE, HAVE THE LEASES OR HAVE LEASES THEMSELVES THAT KIND OF ACCESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UH, AND SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN LOOKS LIKE, AND, UM, WE CAN'T COME UP WITH IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M JUST THINKING THERE'S AN ADVOCACY ROLE THAT THE GROUP COULD, COULD PLAY.

AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE CAN ALSO SUGGEST SOMETHING AS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A ENCOURAGED, ENCOURAGEMENT, SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE FOR PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, OPEN UP LEASES FOR, UH, FOR THESE UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS AS WELL.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BRING FORTH.

UM, ALSO I THINK, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION AMONGST BLACK OPS AND MUSICIANS JUST ABOUT CREATE THE CREATION OF SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, EVALUATION PROCESS FOR VENUES AND HOW, YOU KNOW, VENUES, UH, HOW MANY, LIKE WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK MUSICIANS THAT THEY HIRE AND VICE VERSA.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, UM, HELD UP TO ALL THE VENUES AND SOME TYPE OF STANDARD SET, UM, IN TERMS OF THE DIVERSITY.

UM, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD ALL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT FORTH, UM, AS, AS THINGS THAT WAS OFFICE CITY COUNCIL.

SO I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST IDEAS, BUT, UM, SOME THAT CAME TO MIND.

AWESOME.

ANYTHING ELSE WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS? AND I'LL ALSO THINK I'M REBECCA, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALONG WHAT GRAHAM WAS SAYING, I THINK IT'S WHERE HE WAS GOING IS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, GETTING THESE VENUE OWNERS TO BECOME VOCAL ABOUT, UM, WHAT THESE LEASE HOLDERS ARE, YOU KNOW, PREVENTING FROM HAPPENING, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING PROGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR WHEEL BRIDGES, FROM ANTON'S AND THE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, STEVE FROM EMPIRE AND MOHAWK, OR I, YOU KNOW, TO BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WE NEED MORE BLACK, UH, UH, VENUE OWNERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROBLEM IN THE CITY AND TO, UH, TO VOCALIZE THAT AND MAKE THAT PUBLIC AND

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TO CHALLENGE, UH, THE REAL ESTATE FOLKS, UM, WOULD, I THINK DEFINITELY CREATE SOME PRESSURE, POSSIBLY CREATE SOME OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION.

YES.

FANTASTIC.

WHAT WOULD THAT, WE CAN SEE

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

IF THERE'S ANY FEATURE AGENDA ITEMS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION OF THE VENUE DISASTER RELIEF PHONE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND REQUEST THAT WE PUT IN AT THE BEGINNING? UM, BASICALLY ANYTHING WE PUT AT THE END OF OUR AGENDAS, CAUSE WE HAVE SO LIMITED TIME, I ENDED UP GETTING A, A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO IF WE COULD START WITH THIS NEXT TIME, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED, PASSES.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE WANT TO ADD ON HOW QUICKLY, UH, ERICA IS, UH, OR, AND OR CAMBERLEY IS, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SCHEDULE IT COULD, WE COULD KIND OF GET LIKE A SCHEDULE OUT A FEW WEEKS, LIKE THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS, OR ALWAYS STILL JUST KIND OF WAITING AND THEN WE JUST SCHEDULE IT.

IT WILL BE COOL IF WE CAN KIND OF GET A COUPLE, AT LEAST THE NEXT COUPLE IN QUEUE.

HI, I WAS PROACTIVE AND ACTUALLY ALREADY ASKED TO, UH, THE CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING THIS EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO.

AND SO I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY FOR THAT WEEK, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, IT WOULD BE THE WEEK OF AUGUST 3RD, CAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET, BUT I DID ASK ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY JUST TO SEE.

AND WHEN WE FIRST DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE CHAIRS AND WITH MARGIE OF MEETING, EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE ALREADY SENT KIND OF LIKE A LIST OF THE WEEK OF THE THIRD AND THEN THE WEEK OF WHATEVER IT IS TWO WEEKS AFTER THAT.

SO WE DID GIVE THEM KIND OF A STRUCTURE, UM, WHEN WE FIRST DECIDED TO MEET EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEN LIKE KIM SAID, SHE'S FOLLOWING UP, YOU KNOW, ON THAT NEXT MEETING AS QUICKLY AS SHE CAN.

AND SO WE'RE JUST THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS DOING A HERCULEAN JOB THESE DAYS.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO, UH, STEPHANIE HALL AND HER TEAM FOR WORKING WITH US.

AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS WE HEAR BACK.

FANTASTIC.

ANY OTHER FEATURED AGENDA ITEMS? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALMOST EVERY AGENDA ITEM WE HAD TODAY, WE WOULD WANT AN UPDATE ON, UM, I LIKE TO PUT IT IN, UH, IN THE AGENDA SECTION ON THE AGENDA WHERE WE CAN BE UPDATE AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, UPDATE, DISCUSSION, AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, AS OPPOSED TO JUST A BRIEFING, WHICH ALLOW US TO TAKE ACTION IF SOMETHING COMES UP THAT REQUIRES THAT.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, SHOULD I LIST THEM INDIVIDUALLY? I GUESS.

SO THE, THE, THE CREATIVE SPACE DISASTER, DISASTER RELIEF FUND, LIKE WE'LL WANNA UPDATE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THAT.

LET ME JUST INTERJECT.

WE'RE TRYING TO, IF THERE'S STAFF UPDATES, THERE REALLY IS NO ACTION.

AND SO IT WOULD HELP WITH THOSE STAFF UPDATES AS JUST STAFF UPDATES.

CAUSE THERE REALLY ISN'T AN ACTION UNLESS THERE IS A REASON FOR ACTION BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS ARE JUST REPORTING.

WE'RE JUST REPORTING BACK TO YOU GUYS.

WELL, OKAY.

AND THEN MY, MY THOUGHT WAS WHEN YOU SAID THAT, UH, UNDERSTANDABLE, YOU COULD NOT EXPAND THE PROGRAM TO NOT INCLUDE INCLUDE MUSIC INDUSTRY PARTICIPANTS, AS OPPOSED TO JUST MUSICIANS, BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE SPECIFIED MUSICIANS ARE ACTION IN THAT CASE COULD BE, OH, WELL, LET'S, LET'S RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL PUT SOMETHING FORWARD THAT SAYS, CAN YOU EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF WHO CAN BE AT, UH, WHO CAN APPLY FOR THIS FUND? FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE THERE WAS AN OBSTACLE WE COULD TAKE ACTION TO RELIEVE THAT OBSTACLE.

UH, WELL FOR THAT PARTICULAR WAS A ORDINANCE AROUND THAT MONEY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE OTHER FUND THAT WILL BE FOR THE FULL INDUSTRY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP, UH, ORGANIZE IT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HELP YOU GUYS GET THROUGH THESE AGENDAS QUICKLY.

BUT IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A PLACE TO GO DIRECT COUNSEL, A RECOMMENDATION ON A SPECIFIC THING THEN OF COURSE, UM, THAT WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

I JUST FIND, WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION AND ANYTIME THE AGENDA DOESN'T HAVE POSSIBLE ACTION ON THEIR, IT END POTENTIAL POINT OF FRUSTRATION WHERE IN A CRISIS MODE, WE HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH OR WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW LONG EXACTLY TILL WE CAN ADDRESS SOMETHING.

IT'S JUST MY INSTINCT.

IT'S A POSSIBLE ACTION.

WHEREVER POSSIBLE ABOUT YOU, A QUICK UPDATE OF HOW WE WILL

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BE UPDATING.

I THINK YOU GUYS SAW THE LAST UPDATE TO COUNCIL IN MAYER FROM EDD ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. WE'RE ALSO ABOUT TO, UM, INCLUDE DASHBOARDS WITH ALL THE LATEST, UH, DATA WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING AROUND THESE FUNDS AS PART OF THESE DASHBOARDS.

SO, UM, AS SOON AS THAT IS READY TO GO, WE'LL BE SURE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THIS.

CAUSE A LOT OF QUESTIONS PERHAPS COULD BE ANSWERED JUST BY LOOKING AT THE, AT THE DASHBOARDS AND THE UPDATES THAT ARE GOING OUT TO COUNCIL.

CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT IN, UM, THE MANY, MANY, MANY FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR NOW.

UM, BUT HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO IT, BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT QUICK UPDATE.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE DATA AT YOUR FINGERTIPS COMING HERE REALLY SOON.

THAT'S GREAT.

UM, YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT ACTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING, JUST TO PUT IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM NOW.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY, UM, MOTIONING TO PUT CREATIVE SPACE, DISASTER RELIEF FUND ON, UH, UPDATE, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED.

UH, GAVIN.

UM, ANY OTHER FEATURE ITEMS AND WE CAN ADD THESE IN BETWEEN MEETINGS AS WELL.

UM, UM, UH, WHILE WE HAVE MARGIE ON THERE AND I ASSUME SHE'S GOING TO BE ON THERE NEXT TO DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A POSSIBLE ACTION? I BELIEVE SO.

IF WE WANT TO CONSOLIDATE THE BLACK LIVE MUSIC, MUSICAL FUN IN THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL, WE MAKE THAT INTO A MOTION.

SO A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON BLACK LIVE MUSIC FUND AND COMPREHENSIVE EQUITY PLAN.

WOULD THE PRESENTATION WELL, YEAH, COUPLED WITH PRESENTATION.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN GET A SECOND IS, UH, MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

UH, SO I WOULD DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND PHASE TWO, OR, YOU KNOW, WELL, I GUESS EITHER PHASE REALLY.

SO WE SHOULD JUST NOT.

YEP.

SO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND HAND IN CHARLOTTE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED CARRIES AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE? UH, UPDATE ON THE 12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND SECOND.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP.

I LOVE IT.

ARE WE GONNA MAKE A FUNDING REQUESTS FOR THAT? ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE, ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS THAT, THAT PARTICULAR NEED THAT HAS COME UP? UM, IS THAT TOO MUCH FOR NEXT MONTH? IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD OUR NEXT TWO WEEKS FOR NOW? OR SHOULD WE TRY, TRY TO SQUEEZE THAT IN? UM, IF WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHATEVER THAT WE VOTE THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO DO.

UM, YEP.

I'LL POSE CARRIES AS WELL.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON STAFF BRIEFINGS AS BUSINESS OR IS THAT, CAN THAT JUST BE ADDED? YEAH.

STAFF BRIEFINGS OR JUST STAFF BRIEFINGS.

AND SO YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ON STAFF BRIEFINGS, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST, THEY'RE JUST THAT IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM AND WE WOULDN'T PUT IT UNDER STAFF BRIEFINGS, WE WOULD JUST PUT IT UNDER DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FUMBLING UPDATE BY KIM MCCARSON ON CREATIVE SPACE, DISASTER RELIEF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU PUT IT IN THE AGENDA, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON IT AND PUT IT UNDER, UNDER, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR OLD BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS, UM, AND NOT UNDER STAFF, UH, UH, UPDATES.

ALSO THE PUBLIC IS NOT ABLE TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS, WHICH THEY CAN'T NOW ANYWAY.

SO I GUESS THAT'S A MOOT POINT, RIGHT? OKAY.

SO THE LAST, THE LAST ONE, I HAVE MY LIST FULL, SO IT MAY BE TOO MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, PAM CAME TO US LAST MONTH IN A PRETTY DIRE PLACE FOR WHAT ALL, WELL, I THINK A LOT OF US THINK OF IT AS AN ESSENTIAL NONPROFIT SERVICE IN AUSTIN.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING AND HELPING VENUES, UH, WE'RE TIME HELPING INDIVIDUAL MUSICIANS, BUT ALSO THE NONPROFITS THAT, UM, PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE SERVICES AND, AND OTHER SERVICES.

ANYWAY, THAT SEEMS LIKE A DISCUSSION TO TAKE UP.

WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA,

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UM, BUT LIKE TODAY WITH THE TWO STAFF BRIEFINGS AND THREE AGENDA ITEMS, WE WENT THROUGH THE TIME PRETTY EASILY.

SO IF HE ALL WANTED PUT IT ON THE NEXT ONE, WE CAN, OR WE CAN PUSH IT A MEETING.

I THINK WE GOT PLENTY ON THERE, MAN.

YEAH, I THINK, YEAH.

AND ALSO SIMS IS ALSO JUST WANTING TO SPEAK AS WELL.

SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE EVEN LIKE A JOINT AGENDA ITEM HAS SIMS AND HIM TWO MEETINGS FROM NOW.

SORRY TO CHIME.

WHAT'S UP WITH SO MUCH.

I GOT A QUESTION.

IF YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY PROPOSALS TO THE CHANGES OF THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND AROUND QUESTIONS OF ELIGIBILITY, WILL WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT? UH, I, I REALIZED THAT WAS BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET DISCUSSED AT THAT WORKING GROUP, BUT WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.

YES.

BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.

SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, JUST A RESOLUTION ASKING FOR IT RESULT NECESSARILY IN ANYTHING.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A RESOLUTION ASKING THEM TO CHANGE THAT WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT NEXT, NEXT MEETING.

I BELIEVE SO.

YES.

GOOD.

WHAT WOULD THAT DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR A JOURNAL ALMOST AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR.

ALL OPPOSED MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU STAFF X, EVERYBODY.