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[Reading of the Agenda: Call to Order]

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I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

GOOD EVENING.

FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE STAFF.

UM, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE ON THE PHONE.

HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR, BETH VALANCE.

WELLA WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO ONE AND WE ARE MEETING REMOTELY TONIGHT TO REVIEW A NUMBER OF CASES BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

I WILL START WITH ROLL CALL.

EMILY REID HAS FALLEN SWALLOW, PRESENT WIT OTHER SIN HERE.

MATTHEW JACOB HERE, KEVIN COOK.

I SAW KEVIN, UM, HOLLY LITTLE PREY MCWHORTER HERE.

TERRY MYERS, ALEX UP.

I SEE ALEX PRESENT.

ALEX, CAN YOU HEAR US? YEAH, I THINK A COMMISSIONER PAPA FACILITY MAY BE HAVING TROUBLE WITH HIS AUDIO.

UH, BLAKE TOGGLE AT YOUR, OKAY.

WE WILL GET STARTED BY REVIEWING OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.

I WILL START WITH THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON COMMISSIONERS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE ANYTHING.

LET ME KNOW.

AS I GO THROUGH THE LIST, UM, MEMBERS OF THE, OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL.

IF YOU HEAR A CASE, UM, DURING THIS PORTION OF, UH, REVIEWING THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, NOT ONE THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF, BUT ONE THAT YOU WANT FULL FOR DISCUSSION.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE ALSO LET ME KNOW OUR FIRST, UH, CASE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YES, I'M SORRY.

HEY, THIS STEVE HAS, Y'ALL HAVE SEEN I'M SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE ALSO THAT, UM, SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF THE TYNDALL APARTMENT OR CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE LOPEZ HOUSE ARE SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT GET NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S GOING ON THIS EVENING.

UM, WE CHECKED WITH OUR NOTIFICATION OFFICE NOTICES WENT OUT ON JULY 15TH.

UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAD COMMUNICATED WITH US THAT THEY DID NOT RECEIVE A NOTICE, UM, WERE NOT ON THE LIST AND THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, BUT THE MOST COMMON ARE THAT THE LIST IS GENERATED FROM THE LATEST AVAILABLE DATA FROM BOTH AUSTIN ENERGY AND, UH, THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, WHICH MAY BE, WHICH MAY HAVE LACKED.

UH, SO I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO KNOW SINCE THAT CASE IS UP FOR CONSENT, THAT THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT OF THAT PROCEEDING.

IT IS ENTIRELY WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION TO DECIDE ON A POSTPONEMENT OR PROCEED THIS EVENING.

THE, THE SITUATION IS STRANGE BECAUSE, UH, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN BEFORE AND SAY, I DIDN'T GET NOTICE OF THE HEARING, BUT THEY STILL SHOW UP AND WE'VE ALLOWED THEM TO SPEAK IN THIS CASE WITH OUR REMOTE MEETINGS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO AFFORD THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF THAT.

UM, AND I GUESS, YEAH, THAT IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO HEAR THE CASE THIS EVENING OR POSTPONE IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. .

I'M SURE I DID SEE THOSE EMAILS AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT TO THE, UM, I GUESS, WOULD THAT BE A DISCUSSION? POSTPONEMENT IS, UM, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, THE OWNERS WISH TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

SO I, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE MOVE THAT, UM, TO THAT DISCUSSION PERFORMANCE POSTPONEMENT SECTION OF THE MEETING.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY.

[Consent Agenda: 1, B6, B7, C2, C4, C6, E1]

SO AGAIN, GOING, GOING DOWN THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE MEETING MINUTES.

THE NEXT ITEM, UM, UNDER APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS REHAB CASE B TO THE DAVID SIBLEY HOUSE AT 2210 WINDSOR ROAD.

OKAY.

CITY HALL, JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER.

IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING,

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PLEASE KEEP YOURSELF ON MUTE BECAUSE THIS IS BROADCASTED.

AND IF YOU ARE NOT ON MUTE AND YOU'RE IN, YOU'RE MAKING NOISE TO INTERRUPT THE BROADCAST THAT WE'LL HAVE TO MEET YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO WE'VE PULLED, UH, ITEM B TWO FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B THREE IS THE GRAM BY B RESIDENTS AT 1406 INFIELD ROAD.

WE'VE PULLED AT A CASE BEFORE 1406 AND FIELD.

OKAY.

UM, OUR NEXT CASE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM B SIX, THE UNLOCK CULTURE, GARDEN, AND MUSEUM ITEM B SEVEN, THE ALDRICH PLACE, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I THAT'S A SIGNAGE.

YEAH.

I DON'T WANT TO PULL THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT THEM.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY, REALLY GOING TO BE A NICE ADDITION AND A NICE EXPANSION IN THAT AREA OF THE HISTORIC PRESENCE NEXT, UNDER PERMITS WITHIN A NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE HAVE TO COLUMBUS DRIVE 2338 COLUMBUS DRIVE WITHIN THE ZILKER PARK NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT 26 OH SEVEN MCCALLUM DRIVE WITHIN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

I WANTED TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

1404 HARDEN AVENUE WITHIN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT C FIVE THREE 13 BRECKER DRIVE WITHIN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

AND THEN KC SIX 85 RANGE.

OKAY.

AND THEN OUR DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CASE, HE WON THE SEAT.

BRIAN'S NEED HOUSE AT 1801 NOUNS DRIVE.

RIGHT? SO JUST GOING OVER THOSE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES.

WE HAVE THE CASE, BEESTIX THE ALOFT SCULPTURE, GARDEN AND MUSEUM.

IT USED TO BE SEVEN IN THE ALDRIDGE PLACE, HISTORIC DISTRICT AC TWO 2338 COLUMBUS DRIVE OR 1404 HARD-WON AVENUE, KC SIX 85 RAINY STREETS AND CASE HE WON THE CBRE ON SNEAD HOUSE.

THOSE ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, MR. ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS.

I CAN JUST, UM, AND THOSE TO YOU, BUT I ALSO, UM, WANT TO JUST DISCUSS OUR FUTURE, UM, ACTION ITEMS AS WELL.

I PREFER TO KEEP THAT ON THE DISCUSSION UNLESS, UM, EVERYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE.

WE PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MEYER.

ONE SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE BY RAISING YOUR HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES.

OKAY.

MS. CENTERS.

WE ALSO HAVE, UH, TWO CASES NOW, UM, ON THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ON ONE OF THE CASES WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AGAINST, UM, THE PROPOSED, UH, WORK.

AND SO I, I JUST WANT TO, UM, KEEP THOSE THAT ARE ON THE LINE.

UM, I GUESS IF YOU WANT IT TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT, UM, PLEASE, PLEASE, UH, SPEAK

[Postponed Items: B1, B4, B5]

OUT.

THE TWO CASES FOR CONSENT WAS THE MOMENT ARE UNDER APPLICATIONS FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ITEM B ONE THAT BARTHOLOMEW ROBINSON BUILDING AT 14, 15 LAVACA STREET, AND THEN CASE B FIVE, THE AT OUR PERIOD STATE AT SEVEN 10 EAST 41ST STREET, BOTH OF THOSE WERE OWNER APPROVED CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR THOSE, WE'LL MOVE THOSE TO THE DISCUSSION FOR MOMENT.

AND

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MADAME CHAIR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ABSTAIN ON ITEM B ONE.

OKAY.

AS I DID PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THIS CASE WAS PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TAKE THEM SEPARATELY AND I CAN SIGN OFF BRIEFLY WHILE YOU DISCUSS THIS ONE.

IS THERE ANYONE ON THE LINE, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE, THE POSTPONEMENT FOR EITHER OF THESE CASES? COULD YOU, COULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME THE CASES THAT ARE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW? THE FIRST ONE IS A CASE B ONE, THE BARTHOLOMEW ROBINSON BUILDING AT 1415 LAVACA STREET.

YES.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE COMMODORE PERRY ESTATE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO PASS THESE TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT WITH MISSIONARY MINDSET, THIS ABSTAINING FROM ITEM .

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, LITTLE, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MYERS.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE TWO CASES HEARING NONE, THOSE IN FAVOR TO, UH, MOVE THESE TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETINGS, PLEASE VOTE.

YES.

BY RAISING YOUR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPOSED IT WAS, UM, TWO CASES PASSED ON PROSPECTIVE CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO NEXT MONTH.

SO I GUESS WE NOW HAVE A MEETING, AN AGENDA ITEM BEFORE WHERE WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

MR. COULD ASK YOU TO HEAR THAT BEFORE OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

I'M SORRY, MATT, I'M TAKING YOU REPEAT THAT.

THE CASE FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

I ASSUME THAT WE HEAR, UM, THE SPEAKERS ON, ON THAT, UM, POSTPONEMENT, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I GUESS, OBJECT TO POSTPONING THAT TO THE NEXT MONTH.

YES, WE WOULD HEAR FROM THE REQUESTERS OF THE POSTPONEMENT FIRST AND THEN ME APPLICANTS.

I FORGOT.

OKAY.

WELL, WE WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO PLEASE LIMIT COMMENTS ONLY TO THE POSTPONE, BUT NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ON THE LINE, UM, TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT OR LET'S SEE THE CASE AT THE WRITTEN ALVAREZ LOPEZ HOUSE AT EIGHT OH NINE EAST NINTH STREET.

IS ANYONE ON THE LINE? I'M IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING? WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BEAT ON THE LINE.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO JUST GO BY THEIR EMAILS.

OKAY.

THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST BY SEVERAL PEOPLE VIA EMAIL, BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS A REMOTE MEETING, THEY DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE.

THEY DIDN'T CALL IN, IN ADVANCE AS REQUIRED.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY THERE THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE THAT WAY.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE, UM, ANY REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE OPPOSED TO POSTPONING THIS CASE TO NEXT MONTH? WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE, TWO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE, MR. MARK ROGERS AND, AND TOM HATCH.

YES.

THIS IS MARK ROGERS.

ARE, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT? ARE YOU OKAY WITH US POSTPONING THIS CASE UNTIL NEXT MONTH? OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO HEAR THIS CASE? RIGHT.

I REPRESENT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND, UM, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON, ON THE DISCUSSION POST MOMENT, AND I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS CASE, AUGUST MEETING COMMISSIONER HAIM, SET A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE, UH, ALL THOSE, OR IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I JUST WANTED TO SAY I RECEIVED SEVERAL LETTERS ON IT THAT THEY GOT NOTICE OF IT TOO LATE AT THE MEETING.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, THIS CASE TO OUR AUGUST MEETING, PLEASE VOTE.

YES.

BY RAISING YOUR HAND, THAT'S EVERYONE OUT, THOSE OPPOSED.

SO I BELIEVE THAT PASSES 10 TO ZERO.

SO MOVING ON TO OUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY, UM, WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM THOSE THAT HAVE REQUESTED TIME TO SPEAK TO THIS PATIENT.

AND THOSE ON THE LINE WILL SPEAK IN THE ORDER OF THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO STAY ON MUTE UNLESS YOU ARE CALLED ON TO SPEAK IN THE INTEREST OF OUR LIMITED RESOURCES AND TIME.

PLEASE DON'T REPEAT INFORMATION THAT OTHER OTHER FOLKS IN FRONT OF YOU HAVE GIVEN OUR MEETING THIS EVENING HAS A HARD STOP AT 10:00 PM.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR CASES YOU'D NEED.

WHEN YOU'RE CALLED ON TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

IF THERE IS ANYONE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE CASE, THOSE, UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR, WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO OFFER A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO OUR FIRST CASE UP FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH IS THE DAVID SIBLEY HOUSE AT 2210 WINDSOR ROAD.

WOULD WE NOT HAVE THE, UH, ROGERS, WASHINGTON HISTORIC DISTRICT? I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

RIGHT? WE W WE WILL START WITH, UM, OUR APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC ZONING.

UM, SO WE WILL HEAR FROM THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS, THE STORY DISTRICT SPEAKERS FIRST.

I APOLOGIZE.

SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER, UM, THIS EVENING WILL BE MISS BRENDA MALICK.

NO.

HI.

MY NAME IS BRENDA MALIQUE, MADAM KAREN COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

AND PLEASE AS THE LATE SAM COOK MINUTE, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, BUT I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO YOU.

I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU WITH THE CONTENT AND MATERIAL THAT'S ALREADY BEFORE YOU, BUT THE PROSTATE TO SAY THAT THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IS A SMALL, YET UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE WERE BOARDED JUST NORTH AND SOUTH BY CHESTNUT AND CEDAR AVENUE, EASTERN WEST MLK JOURNEY BOULEVARD AND MAIN ARE ROADS.

OUR NEIGHBORS ARE THE BLACK LIONS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND L CAMPBELL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

OUR ROOTS GO WAY BACK, BACK TO AN ERA.

WHEN OUR BLACK WORLD WAR II VETERANS WERE TRYING TO GAIN A FOOTHOLD IN A STILL SEGREGATED SOCIETY.

WHEN OUR FATHERS AND MOTHERS TOOK ON THE MANTLE OF GUIDING OUR COMMUNITY TO A BETTER, MORE PROMINENT STANDING IN AUSTIN'S HISTORY, WE BECAME PREACHERS, DOCTORS, NURSES, LAWYERS, TEACHERS, PROFESSORS, CHURCH BUILDERS, SCHOOL, SUPERINTENDENT, STORE OWNERS, SEAMSTRESSES, COOK GAS STATION OWNERS AND EVERYTHING.

OUR COMMUNITY NEEDED TO BUILD UP STRONGER AND MORE UNITED.

WE'VE GOT CONNECTIONS TO THE OLDEST INSTITUTION OF LEARNING AND THE CITY CONNECTIONS TO THE FAMILY LINEAGE OF PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON CONNECTION TO THE WORLD, RENOWNED ARCHITECT, JOHN CHASE, THE HARLEM CAP COMPANY, AND OTHER LUCRATIVE BUSINESSES.

YOU'LL HEAR MANY OF THESE STORIES FROM MY NEIGHBORS.

THIS GROUP YOU'RE ABOUT TO HEAR FROM WASN'T FOUNDED AS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION WITH RULES AND REGULATIONS AND MONTHLY FEES TO BECOME A MEMBER.

YOU KNOW, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLY SIXTIES WITH AUNTIE KIRK IS THEIR FIRST PRECEDENT IN ORDER TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, HOLD ONTO EACH OTHER AND LIFT UP EACH OTHER.

THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CONTINUES TO BE A GUIDING LIGHT AND VOCAL ADVOCATES FOR THE WELLBEING OF ALL OUR NEIGHBORS, BLACK, WHITE, YOUNG, AND OLD.

SO WHEN WE BEGAN TO SEE SOME OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES THAT BEGAN TO SHOW ITSELF AND THE DEMOLITION OF NOT ONLY HOUSES, BUT FAMILY, THE RISE OF MCMANSIONS AND SIX FOOT HIGH BARRIERS MADE OF STONE, AND WHY SOME TACTICS THAT PREVENTED OUR CHILDREN'S STAYING ARE RETURNING TO ABOUT TO OUR BELOVED COMMUNITY.

WE KNEW WE HAD TO STEP UP AND SPEAK OUT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

THAT'S WHY WE WORKED SO TIRELESSLY OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS TO HONOR THE LEGACY OF OUR FATHER AND MOTHERS, AND TO PRESERVE THE FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN.

NOW, DURING THIS TIME OF HEIGHTENED AWARENESS OF COVID-19

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INEQUALITY, I'VE JUST GOT A FEW MORE SENTENCE.

WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR MORE THAN JUST A FLAT TO SIGNIFY THE HARD WORK AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF BOTH THAT BUILT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO JUST STAND UP, TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GREAT HISTORY AND SIGNIFICANCE OF SOME TRULY GREAT HEROES WHO BUILT A LEGACY OF LOVE, TENACITY AND DECENCY.

WE'RE ALL TO SEE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. MOLLY.

OUR NEXT NEXT SPEAKER IS IN FAVOR OF THE DISTRICT, PAT CALHOUN.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OUR DESIGNATION.

I AM PATRICIA COW, BORN AND REARED IN AUSTIN AND THE DAUGHTER OF TC AND VELMA CALHOUN WHO DESIGNED AND BUILT THEIR HOME ON THE CORNER OF MAPLE AT 24 OH ONE GIVENS AVENUE IN 1959, THEY PURCHASED THEIR PROPERTY FROM A LARGE SUBDIVIDED PARCEL OF LAND OWNED BY BLACK PHYSICIAN, DR.

M J WASHINGTON, MY FATHER, THE SECOND PRINCIPLE OF T LEE JUNIOR HIGH RETIRING AFTER 40 YEARS OF SERVICE, MY MOTHER, A SUPERVISOR OF AFRICAN AMERICAN COUNTY SCHOOLS LATER RETIREMENT IN THE EIGHTIES AS A READING SPECIALIST FROM AISD, BOTH ACTIVE, VITAL PARTS PARTICIPANTS IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE FOUNDING AND OPERATION OF THE BLACK TEACHERS CREDIT UNION.

I RETURNED IN 2016 TO THE WHOLE.

MY PARENTS BUILT ONLY HAD THE SHOCK OF PROPERTY TAXES GOING FROM 3000 TO $8,000.

I IMMEDIATELY BECAME A MEMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH TWO MISSIONS IN MIND, A VEHICLE TO ADDRESS THE TAX BURDEN FOR EHRS AND NUMBER TWO, TO PREVENT THE RANDOM DEMOLITION OF PROPERTIES AND CONSTRUCTION OF PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NO ARCHITECTURAL RELATIONSHIPS TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD ALREADY BEGUN DELIBERATIONS WITH VARIOUS ENTITIES TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

AND IN 2016 FORM THE DESIGN COMMITTEE, WHICH BEGAN ACTIVELY WORKING TO INTEGRATE THE DATA FROM THE EAST AUSTIN CITY SURVEY WITH DESIGN STANDARDS FOR OUR APPLICATION.

NOW UNDER YOUR REVIEW, THE COMMITTEE MET WITH PRESERVATION AUSTIN, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND OTHER ENTITIES ON A REGULAR BASIS FROM SPRING OF 2016 TO PRESENT ALL THE WHILE DISTRIBUTING FLYERS DOOR TO DOOR PRIZING, EACH HOUSEHOLD, THE MEETINGS AND PLANNING UNDERWAY, INCLUDING INVITATIONS TO BE ACTIVE IN THAT PLANNING.

I'LL JUST LIST SOME OF OUR ACTIVITIES, DISTRIBUTION OF FLYERS, MONTHLY TO EACH HOUSEHOLD DELIVERED IN MAILED PUBLIC OPEN HOUSE AT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IN 2017, FLYERS DISTRIBUTED AT EACH NATIONAL NIGHT OUT NOTING FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.

AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SPRING FLING HELD AT THE VORTEX THEATER TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION AND MEET MORE NEIGHBORS FOR UPDATES.

A SECOND WORKSHOP HELD AS THE VORTEX THEATER.

AGAIN WITH FLYERS HAND DELIVERED AND MAILED APPLICATION PACKETS WITH ALL DETAILS OF DESIGN STANDARDS WERE HAND DELIVERED TO EACH LOCAL HOUSEHOLD AND MAILED TO THOSE OUT OF TOWN WITH ASSOCIATION, CITY CONTACTS, INVITATIONS FOR CONFERENCE CALLS WERE EXTENDED TO THOSE OUT OF TOWN.

SO ALSO ADDRESS IN INDIVIDUALS CONCERNS MANY OF WHICH RESULTED IN MODIFICATION.

IF YOU HAVE HEARD OUR ASSOCIATION AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE AND ENGAGE EVERYONE IN THE PROCESS, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF OUR HISTORIC DESIGNATION WITHOUT DELAY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JEN MARGULIES.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.

MY NAME IS JEN MARGULIES.

I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF CEDAR AND GIVENS AND A HOUSE ORIGINALLY OWNED BY VALERIE CANNON WHO RAN THE SHAMROCK RESTAURANT IN PARK.

ONE OF THE JUKE JOINTS ON EAST 11TH IN THE 1960S.

SHE ALSO MANAGED THE HISTORIC VICTORY GRILL AND WAS LIKE A MOTHER TO LEGENDARY MUSICIANS.

BOBBY BLUE BLAND WOULD PULL UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HIS BIG BLUE TOUR BUS AND STAY WITH HIS WHOLE BAND AND THIS MODEST HOUSE, THEIR HOME ON THE ROAD IN JIM CROW, AUSTIN.

WHEN MS. CANNON PASSED BOBBY BLUE, BLAND PAID FOR HER FUNERAL AS SHE NEVER MARRIED AND HAD NO CHILDREN.

THE NEXT FAMILY WHO LIVE SCARED WITH THE RIGHT FAMILY, STELLA WRIGHT LEFT THE HOME TO AMBIEN.

GOOD.

I'M GUESSING MS. GOODIE, RIGHT? WHO RAISED SIX CHILDREN IN THE THREE BEDROOM, ONE BATH HOUSE.

MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 2013 AFTER MS. WRIGHT PASSED AWAY

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IN THE HOUSE, WHICH HAD A REVERSE MORTGAGE, WAS SOLD TO SOMEONE WHO RENOVATED AND FLIPPED IT.

I WANT TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT HOW OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROMOTE EQUITY AND AFFORDABILITY.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOCUSES ON PRESERVING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF PART OF SUSTAINING LIVING MEMORY OF A PLACE AND THE PEOPLE WHO CREATED IT WHEN HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TREATED AS A CLEAN SLATE FOR DEVELOPMENT IT'S AS IF HE'S RICH HISTORY HAS NEVER HAPPENED AT ALL.

IT'S A RACIST.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS PART OF THE RAPIDLY DISAPPEARING BLACK HERITAGE OF EAST AUSTIN.

DISPLACEMENT OF BLACK PEOPLE FROM EAST AUSTIN IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.

HE STOPPED AND LOST 66% OF ITS BLACK RESIDENTS IN THE DECADE BEFORE THIS ONE UNCONSTRAINED DEVELOPMENT.

AND HE STOPPED HIM AS A BIG REASON.

WHY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT AS ELDERS PASS AWAY, FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, DRIVE THEIR FAMILIES TO SELL THE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPERS BUY THE PROPERTY GRAPES A LOT AND PUT UP NEW HIGH END SINGLE OR MULTIFAMILY HOUSING WITH EACH UNIT PRICE $300,000 OR MORE ABOVE THE COST OF EXISTING HOMES IN THE AREA.

WE'VE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, CONTRIBUTING TO A HUGE RISE IN PROPERTY VALUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES TO DRIVE MORE ORIGINAL BLACK FAMILIES OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

EVEN WHEN THEIR HOMES ARE LONG PAID OFF FOR US, DEVELOPMENT HAS LED TO LESS AFFORDABILITY.

NOT MORE.

WE HAVE TO STABILIZE THE SITUATION.

OUR APPLICATION FOR A HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT IS IN PART A PLEA TO PUT PEOPLE OVER PROFIT.

OUR PROPOSED DESIGN STANDARDS DO ENCOURAGE THE INCLUSION OF INCREASED DENSITY PROVIDING FOR AB USE AS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MAKEUP AND A WAY TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AFFORDABLE, OFFERING MORE AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AN ADDITIONAL INCOME STREAM THAT HELPS HOMEOWNERS STAY IN THEIR HOMES, CREATING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT WITHIN ROGERS, WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS WILL HELP SLOW THE DEMOLITION, PREVENT THE ERASER OF THIS AREA'S HISTORY AND MAINTAIN RACIAL DIVERSITY AND ECONOMIC ACCESSIBILITY.

HERE.

OUR VISION IS A VIBRANT MULTIGENERATIONAL MULTI-RACIAL COMMUNITIES AND INCLUDES APARTMENTS WHILE THERE'S IN THE MAJOR QUARTERS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS LIVING WITHIN THE PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPRISING THE PROPOSED HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WE ENVISIONED GENERATIONS OF THE FAMILIES WHO FOUNDED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING OR RETURNING TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN HERE SIDE BY SIDE, WITH NEW RESIDENTS WHO WERE PUTTING DOWN NEW ROUTES.

IN OUR CASE, WE SEE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AS KEY TO A DIVERSE DYNAMIC FUTURE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. NORMAN.

THANK YOU FOR BEING LISTENING TO US TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS NORMAN SCALES.

I LIVE AT 25 OH NINE WHEREBY I'M ACTUALLY NORMAN SCALES JR.

MY DAD WAS AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND I DO MEAN FIRST BEFORE THEY JOINED SCINTILLA, HE VOLUNTEERED TO GO ONTO THE ARMY OF WORLD WAR II.

HE WAS IN THE ARMY AS AN OFFICER TO BECOME PILOT AND MANY LETTERS TO GET INTO THE AIRMAN EXPERIMENT.

AS ALL OF IT, HE WAS ABE AND BECAME THERE.

DAN WAS PATIENT AND ROMAN SALLY ITALY, WHICH WAS AN ALL BLACK FIGHTER UNIT.

THEY WERE IN THE NORTHERN PARTS OF AFRICA AND THEY ALSO MANY MISSIONS WITH THE FAME FOR FLYING.

BAMA IS BACK AND FORTH TO GERMANY.

AS THEY KNOW MANY, MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'D NEVER LOST PALMER.

I EVER FLEW MORE THAN SEVEN EMISSIONS OUT THE HIGHS ON THE DISTINGUISHED FLYING FAULTS.

AND THEREFORE THERE WERE ONLY 100 OF THEM.

THEY BUILT THEIR HOUSE AND AUSTIN STARTED AT 712TH STREET AND WHICH NOW NO LONGER EXIST.

HE MOVED HERE IN 1959 AND I AM HERE FOR MY STUFF.

I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THE YEARS.

MY FATHER DIED IN 81, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE JOB THAT HE LIKED.

HE WAS OFF AT THE JOB THAT HE LEFT.

WHEN HE CAME HERE, I STARTED HERE.

HE WENT ON BACK TO SCHOOL AND FINISHED, UH, POLSON AND, UH, STILL COULD NOT GET WHAT HE WANTED TO.

AND HE ENDED UP IN THE END.

HE DIED IN 81 AND THEREFORE, UH, UH, HONORED BY MCCLELLAN RIGHT NOW.

MY MOM WHO WAS HERE ALSO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING TO GET LL CAMPBELL SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET MAITLAND VERY LATE IN ORDER FOR THAT, BUT WANTING TO KEEP THE HOME AND THE LEGACY OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED PIONEER.

IT ALSO GAVE THOSE SERVICE AND

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LIFE FOR AUSTIN, TEXAS FOR THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE, NO MATTER HOW THEY WOULD TREAT IT, STILL ABLE TO STAY HERE, BUILD THE HOUSE.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT HERE, PAID IT OFF.

WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S ABOUT FAMILY.

WE GREW UP IN AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY, NOT TO BEAT THINGS AND RUN OUT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED OVER 40 YEARS.

SO I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.

I HOPE THAT YOU AND WITH US TO MAINTAIN GOOD COMMUNITY, THAT WE'VE SO MUCH LOVE.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS BARRY MCBRIDE.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS BARRY, MAYBE BRIDE.

I LIVE AT 1900 CEDAR AVENUE, UH, AND UH, THAT PROPERTY IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF MLK EAST MLK AND CEDAR AVENUE.

ONE OF THE LARGE LOTS IN THE ROGERS WASHINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD AND WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST PROPERTIES TO BE DEVELOPED BY THE DEVELOPER WHO DEVELOPED IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, MY, UH, AUNT AND UNCLE, THE JOHNSONS, MAXINE JOHNSON AND GARVIN DUNSON DEVELOPED AND BUILT THIS HOME AND HAD THIS HOME BUILT FOR THEM.

IN 1957.

THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO PURCHASE A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, I AM THE NEPHEW, UH, AND I SURVIVED BOTH OF THEM WITH MAXINE RECENTLY HAVING HATS.

AND SHE WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL, WHAT WAS ONE OF THE, UH, TEACHERS, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL ELSIE ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, AND SHE WAS A VERY PROUD LONGTERM TEACHER AT THAT SCHOOL.

AND THEY BOTH LOVE LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AS, AS WELL AS MANY OF THE OTHERS WHO YOU'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT THIS EVENING.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY, UH, IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT ENRICHES THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO ARE COMING BEHIND US.

WE'VE NOTICED THE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE SPOKE ABOUT ALREADY, BUT EVEN MORE SO PEOPLE WHO ARE NEW MOVING INTO THIS AREA ARE CONSTANTLY ASKING ABOUT THE AREA.

THEY LEFT WITH A C, THEY LOVE THE LAYOUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY GET A SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND A SENSE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN YOUR, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT PRESERVED.

MANY OF THEM WHO I TALKED TO AND SEE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO DON'T LIVE HERE, AND MANY WHO DO LIVE HERE, WHO ARE RECENT PURCHASES OF PROPERTIES HERE, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, WHICH IS A UNIQUE TIME IN HISTORY WHERE THEY PANDEMIC, WHICH HAS WORLDWIDE AND WITH ALL OF THE PROTESTS THAT ARE GOING ON.

SO MANY THINGS ARE CHANGING.

THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN HISTORY MUST BE SEIZED TO HELP PRESERVE SOMETHING THAT IS VITAL TO THIS CITY.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ENRICHES THE LIVES OF EVERYONE HERE.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD MENTIONED IS LL CAMPBELL SCHOOL.

IT HAPPENS TO BE THE SAME ELEMENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT I WENT TO, UH, AND IT BOUGHT IT.

IT WAS PUT HERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME NOW, PAUL, THE AUSTIN KANSAS AUSTIN CANCER CENTER.

WELL, BEFORE IT WAS A CANCER CENTER, IT WAS THE SECOND VERSION OF HOLY CROSS HOSPITAL, WHICH USED TO BE OFF OF 11TH STREET NEAR, UNDERNEATH THE CHURCH NOW, NOW, WHICH IS HOLY CROSS CATHOLIC CHURCH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT, UH, TO HAVE THE HOSPITAL HERE WAS TO HAVE THE HOSPITAL HERE, BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH LIMITED ACCESS, UH, FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN DOCTORS WHO COULD PRACTICE THEIR MEDICAL PROFESSIONS HERE.

DR.

HOLLOWAY WAS ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE PRACTICED AT THIS HOSPITAL, UH, AND IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AS LOS CAMPBELL.

ALL OF THOSE ARE INTEGRAL PARTS OF THIS VERY VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT SHOULD BE PRESERVED IN THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY SHOULD HELP TO GIVE US THE IMPETUS TO PRESERVE WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ALSO HEARD, IT MENTIONED A LOU RAWLS A MOMENT AGO, WHO HAD AN IMPACT ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO STAYED HERE.

WELL, IF YOU THINK BACK JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT WAS A FILM CALLED THE GREEN BOOK.

WELL, THE GREEN BOOK ACTUALLY HAD IN IT PLACES TO STAY FOR ENTERTAINERS AND FOLKS WHO WOULD COME TO AUSTIN.

THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ERA WE COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT MISSING THINGS.

I TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AREA, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR TIME AND ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE CONSIDERATION THERE WE'RE ASKING.

SO THAT LIVE IN THIS CITY CAN BE FURTHER ENRICHED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MCBRIDE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LAVONNE MARSHALL LAVONNE MARSHALL ON THE LINE.

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I THOUGHT IT WAS SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.

I AM LAVONNE JACKSON, MARSHALL NATIVE AUSTINITE PRODUCT OF AUSTIN, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HOUSTON TILLOTSON UNIVERSITY.

MY PARENTS, MARION AND SOPHIA JACKSON LONGTIME AUSTIN RESIDENTS BECAME INTERESTED IN BUILDING A NEW HOME IN THE SPRING OF 1958 AND WERE ENCOURAGED BY A FRIEND TO VISIT THE PROPERTY.

NOW KNOWN AS HOLY CROSS.

IT WAS A RAPIDLY DEVELOPING AREA WITH LARGE LOTS AND A DIVERSE POPULATION.

EDUCATORS, ENTREPRENEURS, PEOPLE WITH GOING FAMILIES.

THEY MET WITH BUILD A TRAVIS COOK WHO OFFER THE LOT AND CONSTRUCTION AT 25 OH EIGHT GIVENS AVENUE FOR $15,000.

IT WAS NEXT DOOR TO THE HOME OF JIMMY SNAIL DISTRICT MANAGER OF ATLANTA LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY, WHO WOULD LATER BECOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

HIS WIFE, JOANNA WAS A REGISTERED NURSE THAT NURSE AT HOLY CROSS HOSPITAL, WHICH WOULD LATER BUILD IN THE AREA.

ALSO BUILDING ON THE SAME BLOCK WAS DR.

JOHN QUILT TAYLOR KING, LONG TIME EMPLOYEE AT HOUSTON TELLERS COLLEGE LATER UNIVERSITY WHO SERVED AS PROFESSOR OF MATHEMATICS BEING PRESIDENT AND CHANCELLOR OF THE INSTITUTION.

HE WOULD ALSO BECOME PRESIDENT OF KING T HIS MORTUARY AND A THREE STAR RETIRED ARMY GENERAL IN THE RESERVES.

MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN POSTAL EMPLOYEES AT THE DOWNTOWN FACILITY.

AND MY MOTHER WAS HOME ECONOMICS TEACHER AT HOUSTON TILLERSON COLLEGE.

NOW UNIVERSITY.

SHE WAS ALL, SHE ALSO WORKED AT MAINLY INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN PURVIEW AND M UNIVERSITY WHEN GENERAL AND I RETURNED TO AUSTIN IN 1966, WE BECAME RESIDENTS AND I CHILDREN GREW UP ON GIVENS AVENUE.

MY HUSBAND GENERAL WAS EMPLOYED AT HOUSTON TILLOTSON UNIVERSITY AS A MATHEMATICS INSTRUCTOR, THEN DEPARTMENT CHAIR OF NATURAL SCIENCES AND RETIRED IN 2001.

HE WAS AN AVID GOLF OF MORE THAN 60 YEARS AND A MEMBER OF THE SAVE MUNI FOUNDATION FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, GENERAL MADE FOUR HOLES IN ONE IN HIS LIFETIME.

ONE OF WHICH WON HIM A MAZDA MIATA CONVERTIBLE.

HE WAS REMEMBERED LAST MONTH DURING HIS PASSING, BUT MANY OF AUSTIN'S OUTSTANDING GOLFERS DURING HIS VISITATION AND FUNERAL, INCLUDING TOM KITE AND BEN CRENSHAW.

THANK YOU.

AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT OUR PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU, MS. MARSHALL, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CONNIE KIRK.

HELLO, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I AM A NATIVE AUSTINITE AND I GREW UP ON 1908 MAPLE AVENUE.

MY MOTHER IS WILLIE MAE AND HER FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO HAVE A LIBRARY NAMED AFTER HER.

SHE WAS THE FIRST FEMALE, UH, SUPERVISE CHAMPION.

MY FATHER WAS LEE, ANDREW KIRK.

HE WAS THE FIRST BLACK EMPLOYEE AT THE POST BOUT.

HE STARTED THE BRONZE EAGLE CHAPTER HERE FOR BLACK PILOTS, AND HE WAS ONE OF THE ELECTORAL JUDGES.

AND MY BROTHER IS RON, WHO BECAME THE FIRST BLACK OF DALLAS.

HE BECAME THE SECRETARY OF STATE OF TEXAS, AND HE WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE WITH OBAMA AS U S AMBASSADOR OF TRADE.

UH, MY SISTER WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.

SONDRA KURT.

WE HAVE HISTORICAL FIGURES THAT, UH, UNKNOWN, UH, TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT TO STRANGERS, BUT WELL KNOWN TO MANY.

WE HAVE SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL AND FAITHFULLY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN'T TAKE FROM US.

THE HISTORY OF THE BLACKS AT EAST AUSTIN HAVE HAD PROTEST CIVIL RIGHTS PROTEST AGAINST SEGREGATION IN THE SIXTIES.

AND OURS WERE PEACEFUL BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE.

I WAS ONE OF THE PROTESTS THAT MR. STONE CONGRESS, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE POLICE.

AND WE WENT TO WHITE SCHOOLS.

WHAT WE CALL WHITE SCHOOLS BACK THEN.

MY MOTHER WAS THE FIRST BLACK TEACHER AT MESS ELEMENTARY, AND SHE ALSO INTEGRATED DOLPHIN ELEMENTARY.

AND SO WE ARE HERE TO PROUDLY TELL, TELL YOU THAT WE WANT CHANGES.

WE WANT THIS VOTE IN FAVOR OF I IS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

THEY'VE GIVEN YOU ENOUGH PROOF TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE IS NOT ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN AUSTIN, IN CENTRAL AUSTIN THAT CAN COMPARE TO WHAT THE BLACK LIP DONE FOR THIS HISTORICAL STATUS, STATUS AND VALUE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

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AND WE STILL UPHOLD THOSE ACTS AND WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU TODAY.

WHAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU? MADAM CHAIR AND THE COMMISSIONER, AND GOD BLESS YOU DOING THESE GIANT TRY AND TIME OF THE PANDEMIC CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR MS. KURT.

GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER HANDSET.

UH, MS. KIRK, MAY I HAVE YOUR MOTHER'S NAME? YOU SAID WAS THE FIRST BLACK TEACHER AT METS.

UH, WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT THE HISTORY OF THAT SCHOOL AS IT'S CLOSING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, I HAVE NOT COME ACROSS THAT RECORD.

WHAT IS HER NAME PLEASE? KURT .

AND WHAT YEAR DID SHE, WHAT TWO YEARS DID SHE TEACH THERE? SHE TAUGHT THERE IN THE SIXTIES AND MAYBE THE LATE FIFTIES, IT WILL BE.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT, THAT, THAT IS ADDED TO THE RECORD IS AS WE'RE COMPILING IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BYE BYE.

WELL, THAT'S OUR LIBRARY ON OAK SPRINGS AS WELL.

THEY RENAMED IT OUT THERE WILL WILLAMETTE KURT BRANCH LIBRARY.

OH, I KNOW YOUR MOTHER BY HER REPUTATION.

I HAD I, OF COURSE, AND I'M ALSO MY WIFE TAUGHT AT BETSON.

WE WERE VERY ACTIVE WITH THAT COMMUNITY FOR A VERY LONG TIME, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M GETTING THE CHANCE TO PUT THE TWO TOGETHER.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANKS.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. KURT SO MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY THIS EVENING.

UM, OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KATE MILLS, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SERVING ON A CIRCLE AND OUR COMMISSION AND FOR HEARING OUR APPLICATION AND COMMENTS TODAY, MY HUSBAND THREE CHILDREN AND I MOVED TO AUSTIN THREE YEARS AGO, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RACIALLY AND GENERATIONALLY DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST SETTLING.

AND WE FOUND IT IN THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE FELT WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY FROM OUR FIRST DAY AND HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE FAMILY EVER SINCE MY KIDS LOVE WAITING TO NEIGHBORS.

THEY SEE IN PASSING AND LOOK FORWARD TO A MINI PLAN TO NEWSY EVENTS LIKE BLOCK PARTIES, PICNICS, AND NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

WE TRULY ENJOYED LEARNING ABOUT THE MINI HISTORIC CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE'VE APPRECIATED HAVING A PERSONAL LIVING CONNECTION TO EAST AUSTIN, BLACK HISTORY.

AS YOU'VE HEARD BY NOW, THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MANY FIRSTS.

THE FIRST BROAD TRAVIS COUNTY CONDITIONER, THE FIRST BACK LICENSED PILOT, THE FIRST CERTIFIED AI AIC SECRETARY, THE FIRST BLACK TO RECEIVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN ZOOLOGY FROM UT TO RECEIVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN SPECIAL EDUCATION FROM UT THE FIRST BLACK TO BE APPOINTED TO A CITY OF AUSTIN HUMAN RIGHTS COALITION, THE FIRST BLACK TO BE ELECTED AS THE MAYOR OF DALLAS AND SERVE AS A US TRADE AMBASSADOR IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

THE FIRST BLACK TO ESTABLISH A TEACHER'S CREDIT UNION FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN FEATURES THE FIRST BLACK IN AUSTIN TO RECEIVE THE DISTINGUISHED FLYING CROSS FROM THE US AIR FORCE.

ONE OF THE FIRST BLACK SUPERVISORS AT AIC CLIFTON CENTER, THE FIRST BLACK TO BECOME A HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL OF THE FIRST INTEGRATED SCHOOL IN THE STATE, THE FIRST UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS OMBUDSMAN, ONE OF THE FIRST LOCAL TELEVISION ANCHORS AND A STORY.

WE STILL LOVE TO TELL THE FIRST TO THINK A WHOLE AND ONE AND RECEIVED A SHINY RED CAR IS EVERY WORD.

SO THIS HISTORY IS IN OUR PAST.

IT'S STILL LIVING FOR US TODAY.

WHEN I TAKE MY KIDS TO THE WILLIAM ECKRICH LIBRARY, I GET TO TELL THEM WITH PRIDE THAT THE LIBRARY WAS NAMED AFTER AUNTIE CONNIE'S MOTHER FOR HER MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO AUSTIN.

WHEN WE SAW A TUSKEGEE AIRMAN MURAL IN ANOTHER STATE, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO TELL THEM THAT'S ON MR. SCALES.

FATHER SERVED THEIR COUNTRY.

THE FIRST BLACK FIGHTER PILOT FROM AUSTIN.

AS MY KIDS WALKED TO LILA WITH CAMPBELL, THE MENTOR, DO THEY KNOW GRANDMA BRENDA DOWN THE BLOCK, WENT TO EL CAMPBELL WHEN SHE WAS THEIR AGE, THESE STORIES WE TELL AND CONNECTIONS WE HAVE, DON'T JUST AFFECT THEIR PAST.

THEY SHAPE OUR PRESENT AND OUR FUTURE, AND THEY NEED TO BE PRESERVED.

MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS WANT THIS STORY HISTORY OF THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS NEIGHBORHOOD, TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF OUR PRESENCE AND OUR FUTURE.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RATES THERE BY DEVELOPERS AS IF NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE TOOK PLACE HERE.

WE WANT THIS PIECE PIECE OF THE RICH BLACK HERITAGE OF EAST AUSTIN TO BE PRESERVED FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MS. MILLS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MS. MISAEL RAMOS.

I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S A TOUGH ONE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

MY NAME IS MICHELLE RAMOS, AND I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I WANT TO TELL A PERSONAL STORY OF MY EXPERIENCES HERE AT WA ROGERS, WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS.

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UM, JUST SOME BACKGROUND CONTEXT ON MYSELF.

I ORIGINALLY MOVED TO AUSTIN FROM DALLAS IN OH SIX AND MOVED BACK TO DALLAS IN 2011 ONLY TO RETURN TO AUSTIN AND 2000 14:00 AM I RETURNED.

I HAD A TEMPORARY LIVING SITUATION IN WHICH I WOULD NEED TO FIND A PLACE WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF MOVING BACK TO AUSTIN.

I DECIDED TO TAKE SOME TIME WITH MY SEARCH WHO PUT TOGETHER SOME CRITERIA BECAUSE I KNEW MY NEXT LOCATION WOULD BE A PLACE I WANTED TO PLANT SOME ROOTS.

I WAS LOOKING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD POTENTIAL WALKABILITY TO RESTAURANTS, THE UNIVERSITY, DOWNTOWN AND PARKS, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING THE MOST IMPORTANT THING COMMUNITY AFTER EXPLORING MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, I SOMEHOW SOME WAY ALWAYS FOUND MY WAY BACK TO ROGERS, WASHINGTON.

HOLY CROSS FROM DAY ONE, THE NEIGHBORS OF OUR WACC HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO OPEN THEIR DOORS AND HEARTS TO NEW NEIGHBORS IN HOPES OF BUILDING A COMMUNITY ACCEPTING OF EVERYONE DURING THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS PRE COVID.

IT WAS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MEET AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

IF THEY HAD ANY ISSUES WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND TALK THROUGH ADU HEIGHTS WITH THEM OVER ICE TEA AND DEVILED EGGS, OR ORGANIZED SPECIAL CALLED CONFERENCE MEETINGS WITH ANY NEIGHBORS CONCERNED ABOUT SETBACKS.

SO THAT ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS LONG, LONG, LONG PROCESS, THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER IT'S PARTNERING WITH OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO COMBAT DISPLACEMENT, ADVOCATING FOR TEACHERS, RIGHT, OR JUST SIMPLY ORGANIZING PEOPLE FOR HOT DOGS AND SODAS FOR OUR LEGENDARY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALWAYS TREATED NEIGHBORS AS AN EXTENSION OF THEIR FAMILY WITH THE 1928 PLAN THAT HAS POPPED UP IN MUCH RECENT CONVERSATIONS.

WE'RE SEEING AGAIN, THE SYSTEMIC REMOVAL OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS FROM EAST AUSTIN, WHICH AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUBSEQUENTLY BUILT THRIVING SCHOOLS, HOMES, AND BUSINESSES ONLY TO BE PUSHED OUT AGAIN THIS TIME.

SO THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY DESTROYING OUR HISTORY AND OUR TRADITIONS AND ITS PATH, BUT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF OUR COMMUNITY, THE CITY IS NOT ONLY PRESERVING THE LOOK AND FEEL OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S PRESERVING SOMETHING MUCH MORE RICH LEGACY THAT'S STEEPED IN BLACK EXCELLENCE.

ACCEPTANCE LOVE THE URGE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT, THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL COMMUNITY.

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

AND IF YOU WERE WONDERING, I ENDED UP MOVING INTO THE APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE NOW CONDOS ON 24, ZERO ONE FADER ROAD.

THEY USED TO BE KNOWN AS EAST SIDE COMMONS OR BETTER KNOWN IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES AS VANDERBILT OR NEW MAINER APARTMENTS, AKA THE NUDIST COLONY, AND NO CLOTHING IS NOT OPTIONAL.

YOU NEED TO COVER UP WHILE STILL LIVING THERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. RAMOS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARILYN POOL.

GOOD EVENING.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HISTORICAL PERTINENT, NOT ONLY FOR ARCHITECTURE, BUT FOR ALL OF THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE YOU'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT ON MY LITTLE HALF BLOCK, OUR TWO ORIGINAL DESIGNED BY NATIONALLY KNOWN ARCHITECT, JOHN CHASE, WHO WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO RECEIVE A DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

AND HE WAS THE FIRST BLACK LICENSED ARCHITECT IN THIS SPACE.

HIS VERY FIRST RESIDENTIAL DESIGN WHEN HE GRADUATED IS THAT 1906 MAPLE AVENUE.

AND IT WAS CREATED FOR IRENE HILL THOMPSON, WHO WAS WIDOW OF OSCAR L THOMPSON.

OSCAR THOMPSON WAS THE VERY FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO GET A DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS RECEIVING A MASTER'S IN ZOOLOGY IN 1951, IRENE HERSELF WAS THE ONLY CERTIFIED SCHOOL TEACHER IN AISD.

AND THAT WAS BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER INTEGRATION.

THE OTHER CHASE DESIGN IS THE OFTEN FEATURED MODERN HOME AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING AND MAPLE AVENUE THAT WAS BUILT FOR RESPECTED BUSINESS WOMAN, DELLA PHILLIPS, WHO OWNED PHILLIPS A SHAW FUNERAL HOME IN THE EAST BOSTON.

THAT HOME HAS HOSTED MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FUNCTION, AND IT IS A COMMUNITY LANDMARK ACROSS THE STREET FROM DELLA PHILLIPS HOUSE IS OUR SCHOOL CUSTOM BUILT SINGLE STORY RANCH HOME, BUT HIS HOUSE GETS OVERSHADOWED BY HIS AWARD WINNING YARD DESIGNS THAT FEATURE A 10 FOOT STATUE OF LIBERTY, A THINKER AND HIS RED AND WHITE PAINTED OAK IRA.

MY

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DAD IS UNIQUE YARD.

ART HAS BEEN FEATURED NATIONALLY AND TELEVISION SHOWS, SYNDICATED NEWS, BOOK, PUBLICATIONS, DISSERTATIONS, AND LOCAL NEWSPAPERS.

WINNING MANY AWARDS.

A POOL IS A, WAS A WELL LOVED TEACHER.

HE WAS ALSO RENOWNED AS THE BLACK COWBOY LEADING THE TRAVIS COUNTY.

SHERIFF'S POSSE ON HORSEBACK HAS FLAGGED THERE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES BEHIND POOLS HOUSES.

THE CUSTOM BUILD BY ROBERT AND RUTH MCALLISTER.

RUTH WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN TO RECEIVE A MASTERS FROM UT IN SPECIAL EDUCATION.

AND HER HUSBAND OWNED AND OPERATED ONE OF THE VERY FEW GROCERY STORES IN EAST AUSTIN.

I ONCE MET A WOMAN WHO HAD GROWN UP IN EAST AUSTIN, AND SHE TOLD ME THAT AS A CHILD, SHE WOULD RIDE THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST WISH THAT SHE COULD LIVE THERE.

IF IT BUILDS EV IF IT WAS FILLED WITH EVERYONE'S TEACHERS AND COMMUNITY LED LEADERS, IT REPRESENTED AND INSPIRED SUCCESS.

THE INVESTORS WHO ARE DESTROYING THE CHARACTER OF OUR HOMES HAVE NOT BOTHERED TO GET TO KNOW THIS HISTORY.

OUR APPLICATION IS ASKING YOU TO PROTECT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PAULA WILLISON.

MS. SIMPSON, ARE YOU ON THE LINE AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO LINDSAY DARRINGTON.

OKAY.

HI, I'M LINDSAY DARRINGTON.

I'M PRESERVATION, AUSTIN'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND WHERE THE CITIES WE'RE AUSTIN CITYWIDE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NONPROFIT.

FIRST.

I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND ALL THE STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK THIS EVENING AND FOR ALL, FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

AND I'M REALLY HONORED TO CALL IN TONIGHT TO JOIN NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES AND SUPPORTING THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS HISTORIC DISTRICT.

OUR NONPROFIT IS SUPPORTED THESE EFFORTS FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, AS PAT CALLAGHAN INDICATED FROM HELPING IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DESIGN GUIDELINES AND RESEARCH TO PROVIDING TWO MATCHING GRANTS, TO HELP COVER CITY FEES AND MAILING COSTS.

AND ALL OF THAT IS TO SAY, WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO PLAY A VERY SMALL ROLE IN THIS VERY HUGE EFFORT AND EXCITED TO SUPPORT THESE NEIGHBORS AND ADVOCATES TO SEE JUST FOR WHAT THEY ARE, WHICH IS A WAY TO PRESERVE THEIR HISTORY AND THEIR COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

THIS DISTRICT MARCH MARKS A MAJOR STEP FORWARD AND EXPANDING OUR CITY'S LOCALISTS OUR DISTRICT PROGRAM INTO EAST AUSTIN, UM, TO CORRECT A LONG OVERDUE IMBALANCE AND PROTECTING AFRICAN AMERICAN AND MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE.

UM, IT'S CLEAR TONIGHT, UM, THE ADVOCATES, PASSION AND GRASSROOTS DEDICATION TO PROTECTING THEIR HERITAGE, UM, IS, UM, IT'S EVIDENT, IT'S CLEAR.

UM, WE'RE HONORED TO SUPPORT THEIR WORK AND ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONERS TO DO THE THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. HARRINGTON.

WELL, CAN NOW HEAR FROM MIKE BLACKHURST, MR. BLACKHURST, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? THE LINE? OH, YES.

SORRY.

I'M STILL ON MUTE NOW.

HELLO? OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL, UH, VERBALLY.

UM, I DON'T LIVE IN AUSTIN.

WE OWN A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY ON GIVENS AVENUE.

WE MOVED AWAY, UH, TO SUPPORT MY FATHER WHO HAS PARKINSON'S HE'S PITTSBURGH, PA, UM, AND RENAMED TO RETIRE TO THE RUSH WASHINGTON NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I HAPPENED TO PASS THE SCENTED, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT'S BEEN REALLY WONDERFUL TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL VERBALLY.

I'VE REALLY ENJOYED HEARING YOUR STORIES.

I WAS IGNORANT OF THE HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WAS IGNORANT OF YOUR FAMILY'S HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY, I FEEL SAD THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THESE STORIES BEFORE NOW.

UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M, UM, I'M TOTALLY FULLY

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IN SUPPORT OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, I KNOW THAT I CAST MY VOTE AS NEUTRAL FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS MEETING, BUT, UM, I REALLY ENJOYED HEARING YOU ALL SPEAK AND, UM, I SUPPORT THE ADOPTION OF THE STANDARDS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. BLACK, CHRIS, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT AS WELL.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HEAR.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE TWO FOLKS LINED UP, UM, IN OPPOSITION, A HISTORIC ZONING WE'LL FIRST HEAR FROM TAYLOR MCDOWELL.

HELLO.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OKAY.

GREAT.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT'S BEEN HERE SPEAKING FOR SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS AND, UH, ILLUMINATING TO HEAR, UM, UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE, ARE AN INTERRACIAL COUPLE THAT, UH, UH, BOUGHT THE CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY LOCATED AT TWO ZERO ONE ONE MAPLE AVENUE A FEW MONTHS AGO DURING THE PANDEMIC.

UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS HAS BEEN PERCOLATING FOR AWHILE, BUT IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW TO US.

I MEAN, WE, WE NOTICED THE SIGNAGE OF THE NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING LATELY, UH, THURSDAY NIGHT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF GET UP TO SPEED ON EVERYTHING.

UM, BUT FOR US, OUR, OUR PROPERTY ACREAGE IS LARGER THAN MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ON OUR PROPERTY IS A, IS A KEY ECONOMIC FACTOR FOR THE APPRECIATION OF OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND FOR FUTURE RETAIL.

UM, AND SO, SO, SO WE AREN'T DEVELOPERS OURSELVES, BUT ATTACHING A HISTORIC DISTRICT ZONING DESIGNATION TO OUR PROPERTY WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY AND ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO RESELL OUR HOME.

UH, SINCE A BUILDER WOULD BE MORE HESITANT TO BUY A HOME THAT WOULD REQUIRE EXTRA PERMITTING OR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, IN LIGHT OF RESTRICTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO, SO FOR THAT REASON, MY WIFE AND I FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE UNDULY AND DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY THE ZONING PROCESS AND TO BE SPEAKING CANDIDLY, WE FEEL IT'S A BIT UNFAIR TO POTENTIALLY HINDER OUR POOL OF PROSPECT OR PROSPECTIVE BUYERS IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO OUR PROPERTIES THAT NORTHERN MOST ON THE, ON THE PROPOSED, NOT FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.

AND SO LITERALLY THE HOUSES RIGHT NEXT TO OURS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE DISTRICT.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY JUST ASKING IS IT ARE THE BE SLIGHTLY REVISED TO EXCLUDE OUR PROPERTY.

AND WE THINK THIS WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR EVERYONE.

YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I IS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND AUTONOMY WOULD BE PRESERVED.

AND THOSE WHO WEREN'T SUPPORTIVE, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ZONING WOULD BE SPARED, YOU KNOW, TIME AND EXPENSE AND KIND OF RESPONDING TO US OR AS WE UTILIZE THE APPELLATE AND ADMINISTRATIVE REMEDIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT EVEN WITH OUR PROPERTY EXCLUDED, THERE WOULD STILL BE 56 PROPERTIES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, 46 OF WHICH WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING, CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES, MEANING THE EXISTING 82% CONTRIBUTION RATE WOULD STILL BE PRESERVED.

UH, AND I ALSO DID NOT SEE ANYTHING IN THE SUBMITTED NARRATIVE HISTORY THAT MADE SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO OUR PROPERTY.

UH, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY OUR PROPERTIES INCLUSION WOULD BE PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE.

UM, IN, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE HISTORIC DISTRICT APPROVAL PROCESS, BE SOMEWHAT DELAYED SO THAT, UM, OUR VOICE, ANY OTHER POSSIBLE DISSENTING VOICES CAN PROVIDE INPUT ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS OR, OR POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION ASPECTS OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, COMMUNICATIONS AND DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION HAS BEEN KIND OF HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT DURING THE ENDEMIC.

WE'D LIKE, UH, YOUNGER AND NEWER OWNERS SUCH AS MY WIFE AND I HAD TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PARTICIPATE IN, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR, UH, TO CONCLUDE, YOU KNOW, JUST VERBIAGE THAT I'VE HEARD SUCH AS STABILIZING PROPERTY VALUES ALMOST SEEMS TO BE A EUPHEMISM FOR SUPPRESSING PROPERTY GROWTH.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, IF MY, OUR PROPERTY CANNOT BE EXCLUDED, BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING THE FORECAST ECONOMIC IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, IF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION PROCESS, UH, IS APPROVED, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

HIM IT'S PAMELA LAMB ON THE LINE, PLEASE.

OKAY.

WE WILL MOVE BACK TO MS. MALIQUE, IF SH IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A REBUTTAL, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES,

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CERTAINLY.

UM, I'VE GOT A FEW POINTS THAT I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

WE THOUGHT ABOUT BETWEEN PRESERVING AND NEIGHBORHOODS WITH HERITAGE AND MAINTAINING FLEXIBILITY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN UPDATE ALTER AND USE THEIR CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES ACCORDING TO THEIR CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS.

COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS IMPORTANT TO US FOR THIS REASON.

WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MIX OF RETIREES, SINGLE PEOPLE, FAMILIES WITH KIDS, RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS, PEOPLE WHO RENT OUT THEIR PROPERTIES AND RECORDS STARTING WITH OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD PRESENTATION IN OCTOBER, 2017, WE'VE WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAD A VOICE IN THE PROFIT.

WE DISTRIBUTED INFORMATION ABOUT PRACTICE DOOR TO DOOR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MONTHLY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND FIVE IN PERSON EVENTS AT TWO DIFFERENT POINTS.

OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE SPENT MAIL-OUTS WITH FACTS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT AND DRAFT DESIGN STANDARD TO ALL IN TOWN AND OUT OF TOWN.

HOMEMADE HOMEOWNERS AT THE MAILING ADDRESS LISTED IN T HAD THE CITY'S OFFICIAL MAILING AND PUBLIC WORKSHOP FOLLOWED OUR UP REACH.

EVEN WHEN IT WASN'T AS SMOOTH AS WE LIKED, WE MADE SURE TO ENGAGE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE OUT OF TOWN, INCLUDING MANY PHONE CALLS AND EMAIL EXCHANGES WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, HE LEASED OUT THEIR PROPERTY AND CURRENTLY LIVE OUT OF STATE.

WE REVIEWED AND RESPONDED TO PAGES OF QUESTIONS, INCORPORATED FEEDBACK INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SHERIFF THE NEW DRAFTS.

WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE COUPLE.

WE BOUGHT A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY AND WE'RE MAKING SIGNIFICANT EXTERIOR CHANGES, INCLUDING THE BUILDING OF AN ADU TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW TO FINE TUNE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF NEW NEIGHBORS, MAKING A HOME IN A CONTRIBUTING CROP.

THESE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE HELPED US MAKE DETAILED CHANGES TO REQUIREMENTS IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUMMARY FROM THE START OF OUR DISCUSSIONS IN EARLY 2016, UP UNTIL THE MEETING, OUR APPLICATION MAY 8TH, 2020.

WE MAY SPECIFIC CHANGES TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND RESPOND TO ALL OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WE RECEIVE FROM NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO CHANGING THE LANGUAGE ABOUT REPLACING WALLS, DOORS, ROOF, PORCHES, AND WINDOWS TO ALLOW STATICALLY CONFORMING REPLACEMENT AND NOT REQUIRE MATCHING OF ORIGINAL MATERIAL AND FEASIBLE CHANGE THE 21 FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, A NEW CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING ADU TWO 27 FEET AND ADDED LANGUAGE TO MATCH CHAPTER F FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE ADDED STANDARDS PERMITTING.

SECOND STORY ADDITION.

WE ADD ENERGY EFFICIENCY AS A REASON TO REPLACE WINDOWS AND CHANGE AND CHANGE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT THEY CLEARLY PERMITTED USE OF A VARIETY OF ENERGY EFFICIENT EQUIPMENT.

SO THIS HAS BEEN A COMPLEX PROCESS WITH MANY MOVING PARTS, AND WE'D DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

WE URGE THE COMMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS, UH, APPLICATION, UH, AND, UH, WE JUST, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO, WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANY LONGER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MISS MOLLY.

THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK TIME OUT OF THEIR EVENING TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.

UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ON THE LINE AND THE, UM, YOUR CASE IS, UH, PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION FORMALLY.

UM, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE CASE IN KESKIN CASE, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTION, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT, UM, DISCUSSION CASE, UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT'S THE DAVIS SIBLEY HOUSE AT 12, 10 WINDSOR ROAD.

WE HAVE, UM, ONE SPEAKER