* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WE, WE ARE READY TO GO, UM, IS SIX, 10, AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE ORDER. EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME. YES. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. UM, SO WE ARE, UH, I'M GOING TO TRY SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TONIGHT. UH, IF I CAN GET UNANIMOUS CONSENT, UM, BECAUSE MOST OF THE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THE FIRST THREE ITEMS, UM, WISHED TO SPEAK ON ALL THREE ITEMS AND NOT JUST EACH INDIVIDUALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO, UM, SPEAK TO ALL THREE ITEMS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST ITEM, BUT OFFER THEM ADDITIONAL TIME, OFFER THEM DOUBLE THEIR NORMAL TIME. UM, UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT FACILITATE GETTING THROUGH THEM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ITEMS IS, IS, UH, IS THE SAME FOR ALL THREE CASES. UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, OBJECTIONS TO TAKING THIS APPROACH? OKAY. UM, MAYBE THEY WON'T USE ALL OF IT, BUT WE'LL SEE. YES, GO AHEAD. IS IT ALL OF THE SAME APPLICANTS? SAME LANDOWNER. I MEAN, THEY ARE DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS, SO WE CAN'T TAKE ALL THREE CASES AT ONCE. AND, UH, UH, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT EACH SEPARATELY. UM, BUT RATHER THAN, UM, REPEAT THE SAME COMMENTS ALL THREE TIMES, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS, IF THEIR COMMENTS ARE GENERAL TO ALL THREE, I'D LIKE TO OFFER THEM SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AND LET THEM MAKE THEIR MORE EXTENDED COMMENT RIGHT THERE AT THE BEGINNING, INSTEAD OF REPEATING THE SAME POINTS THREE TIMES. DO WE KNOW IF THE APPLICANT'S OKAY WITH THIS? THE APPLICANT IS OK WITH IT. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO, [Reading of the Agenda] UH, I'M GOING TO READ THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, WE HAVE, UH, A ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UM, CASE, UH, B ONE IS FOR DISCUSSION B TWO FOR DISCUSSION B THREE FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE FOR DISCUSSION, BE FIVE FOR DISCUSSION. UM, B6 CONSENT APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TIL, UH, 11 AUGUST 11TH. THAT IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 4.017. UM, OH ONE, FOUR OH ONE. FORGIVE ME. I HAVE A NEW, UH, PHONE HERE. UM, COMMISSIONER HEMPEL IS ABSENT. I WAS GOING TO ASK TO NOTE. UM, SO AGAIN, B6 NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE FOUR OH ONE AT SEVEN ONE THREE FIVE EAST BEN WHITE BOULEVARD. UH, HAS AN APPLICANT POSTPONE IT TILL AUGUST 11TH. THAT IS FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEM B SEVEN APPLICANT POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST 11TH FOR CONSENT. THAT'S A CASE C 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR TWO. THAT'S AT 71 35 EAST BEN WHITE BOULEVARD. SAME LOCATION. UM, ITEM B EIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS POSTPONEMENT ITEM A B NINE, UM, UH, OFFER FOR CONSENT. THAT IS C 14 DASH 2019 DASH OH ONE OH EIGHT PARKER HOUSE. UM, WE CONSENT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, ITEM B 10 IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UM, ITEM D 11 AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, B12 C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX FOUR IT'S 6,007, AGE 35 RESIDENCES. UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEM B 13, REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO ZERO SEVEN, 2001 GUADALUPE STREET, UH, INDUSTRY NINE THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TILL AUGUST 11TH. UM, ITEMS C 14 A OR B 14, WHICH IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FIVE TWO AT NINE OH THREE WEST 12TH STREET. UH, THAT ITEM IS, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFTEN FOR CONSENT ITEMS. SEE 15, UM, SEE 14 ZERO FIVE ZERO ONE ONE TWO RCA TO THE EMILY SOUTH SHORE. UM, UH, WE'RE OFFERING A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 25TH, UH, FOR CONSENT. UM, APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT ITEM B 16 SITE PLAN SPC 2020 ZERO ZERO SEVEN SIX. A VACANCY BREWERY. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 17, A S P 2019 ZERO FIVE NINE ONE C AT NINE 24 EAST SEVENTH STREET DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 18 C EIGHT 2019 ZERO ZERO SIX 2.0, A RESUB DIVISION OF LOT, THREE LESS WEST 53 FEET. BETTER OF BLOCK TO MAGNOLIA ADDITION. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM. , UH, CHEROKEE SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 1103 CHURKO STREET. [00:05:01] UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEM B 20 CA 2019 ZERO ONE ONE 4.18, THE SIMON CASKEY FINAL PLAT. WE'RE SEEING THIS ONE AGAIN. UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL WITH REASONS, UM, PER THE BACKUP AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, MAYBE ONE DAY THAT CASE WILL FINALLY BE RESOLVED. UM, ITEM B 21, UH, CODE AMENDMENT DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND, UM, THE, APPARENTLY YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE PHONES EVERY TIME ANYONE TURN OFF, UM, ITEM B 22, WE'RE GOING TO DO, UH, THE STREET IMPACT FEES. THAT IS FOR, UM, A DISCUSSION. AND I'VE BEEN REMINDED TO NOTE THAT THE, UH, THE SIGN CASSIE TRIED TO BE 20 THERE. UH, IT'S DISPROVAL WITH REASONS IN PER EXHIBIT C, UM, FOR THE RECORD. UM, SO JUST TO REVIEW THE CONSENT AGENDA AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS, UH, DISCUSSION, INCLUDING SOME POSTPONEMENTS, UH, [Consent Agenda] ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM B SIX, UH, AS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT TIL AUGUST 11TH, ITEM B SEVEN, UM, CONSENT APPLICANT POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 11TH, UH, B NINE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, UM, B 12 STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM. THE 13 APPLICANT POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST 11TH IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM B 14. A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 15, A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 25TH IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. ITEM B 16 STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 17 STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 18 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 19 STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM. A DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS REFLECTED IN EXHIBIT C. THE STAFF REPORT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND ITEM B 21, UH, CODE AMENDMENT DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? POINT OF CLARIFICATION? OKAY, LET'S GET THE CLARIFICATION OF QUESTION OR THOMPSON, AND WE'LL GO TO YOUR COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD AND PUSH YOUR THOMPSON. J B NINE. I THINK ON MY VERSION OF THE AGENDA, IT SORT OF SAYS RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS AND IT HAS THE S SLASH THROUGH THE CONDITIONS, BUT I THINK THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE CONDITIONS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED VERSUS WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDED IN TERMS OF SETBACK. CAN WE JUST GET CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THIS, MR. VERA, CAN YOU CHIME IN HERE? IT'S ONLY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDED A SETBACK THAT NO LONGER IS THE CASE. SO IT'S STAFF RECOMMENDED WITHOUT THE CONDITION IT'S AGREED UPON BY ALL PARTIES. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT CONDITIONS DO RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OR CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. UH, I, UH, ALSO HAD A QUESTION BENIGN. THERE WERE SOME NOTES THAT SAID ALL PARTIES WERE IN AGREEMENT. I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, UM, THE HISTORIC COMMISSION COMMISSION, SORRY, GETTING THE NAME WRONG, UH, THAT THEY RECOMMENDED DISAPPROVAL OF THIS. AND SO I WONDERED, UH, IF THEY WERE DISAPPROVING, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THIS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION. UH, MR. BARRY, CAN YOU ADVISE IT'S A MERE RECOMMENDATION FROM HLC. OKAY. SO, UM, WE WOULD BE GOING AGAINST, UH, THE HLC RECOMMENDATION IF WE, UH, APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IS THAT CORRECT? MR. RIVERA SHOW? THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. SO, UM, DO WE WANT TO PULL THAT ONE FOR DISCUSSION THEN? DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THIS OR A COMMISSION WHO CAN COMMENT? I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE COMMISSION, BUT MR. BIRD, WE HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE FOR THAT ITEM. I DO, ALTHOUGH I DON'T HAVE THE APPLICANT SIGNED UP, [00:10:01] SO WE WOULD HAVE TO POSTPONE TO AUGUST 11TH. UM, CAN WE, UH, GET, I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, UH, THE ITEMS, IS THAT CORRECT MR. RIVERA? UH, IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE THAT I'D SUGGEST HAVING IT AS THE DISCUSSION POST AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL DO DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES THAT SIT WELL WITH YOU? OKAY, GREAT. A QUESTION AGAIN, IS BURRITO. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING I CAN DO IT? I JUST, I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, ARE ALL PARTIES IN AGREEMENT, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM KEN PAK, UH, UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTING UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS RECOMMENDATION AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE PROPOSED. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GET A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT. ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE THAT UP THEN. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WAS TO PULL OR HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M SEEING NONE. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY RECUSALS? NONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? LIKE MR. KASI SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. ALRIGHT. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. UM, SURE. COMMISSION LEAKS ON EVERYTHING CLEARLY CAUSING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE ETHICAL. YES. AND THAT WAS CLOSING AND PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE APPLICABLE. UM, LET'S JUST DO THAT AGAIN AND MAKE IT FORMAL. UM, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDED MOTION. UH, MR. CAUSEY, DOES THAT SIT WELL WITH YOU TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL? FOR SURE. THOMPSON DOES THAT SO WELL WITH YOU? YES. OKAY. EVERYONE GO GREEN OR AG COMMISSIONER C. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. UM, [B8. Rezoning: C14-2020-0062 - Webberville; District 1] LET'S MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THOSE. UM, LET'S GO DOWN THE LIST. UM, LET'S START WITH ITEM B EIGHT, WHICH IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX TWO WEAVERVILLE ROAD. MS. CHAFFIN, ARE YOU WITH US SHARE? WE CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE SPEAKERS. AH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, LET ME PULL THAT UP THEN. ALRIGHT. UM, ITEM THE EIGHT. UH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, JARED KORBEL. ARE YOU ON THE LINE AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE ON THE LINE, YOU HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. POINT OF ORDER. YEAH, GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THAT'S A REQUEST THAT THE PARTY THAT'S REQUESTING THE POSTPONEMENT SPEAK FIRST. THAT IS A, IS A GOOD POINT. UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. MR. RIVERA, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? COMMISSIONER SCRATCHER, MR. VERA, WE ARE HAVING RECEPTION PROBLEMS WITH YOU TONIGHT. THE COMMISSIONER IS CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, LET'S GO THEN. UH, THE ONLY OPPOSITION I HAVE SIGNED UP IS ADAM SHARP. MR. SHARP, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YEAH, THIS IS ADAM SHARP. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME LOUD AND CLEAR? YOU CAN GO AHEAD. UM, YOU HAVE, I GUESS SIX MINUTES IF YOU WANT IT. OKAY. I DON'T THINK I'LL NEED SIX MINUTES, BUT, UM, GOOD. I'M SORRY, MR. SHARP. HOLD ON. WE HAVE STEPH INTERJECTING. HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND, MR. SHARP. YES. MR. RIVERA. OKAY. SURE. THAT'S TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM EACH SIDE AT TWO MINUTES, EACH TWO MINUTES EACH. OKAY. FOR POSTPONEMENTS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. SHARP, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THIS IS ADAM SHARP PRESENT IN THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE POSTPONE THIS CASE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH. THE NEXT MEETING OF THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AUGUST 19TH AND THE EAST MLK CONTACT TEAMS. NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 17TH. MAYBE REMEMBER, REMEMBER MY VOICE FROM TWO CASES AT YOUR LAST TWO MEETINGS THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE SAME AREA AS THIS WEBER BELT CASE, OUR 8% MINORITY NEIGHBORHOOD IS FACING A DELUSION OF UP ZONING. A LOT OF IT'S SPECULATIVE ALL AT ONCE DURING THE PANDEMIC. ALL THESE CASES WILL IMPACT THIS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER. AND I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE AFFORDED THE TIME TO ANALYZE THESE PLANS. WE ONLY JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FROM 1907, BY PREVAIL THREE TO FOUR WEEKS AGO, WHILE ALSO DEALING WITH TWO OTHER HUGE DEVELOPMENT. THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS BRIEFLY INTRODUCED AT THE END OF THE EAST MLK CONTACTING MEETING ON [00:15:01] JULY 20TH. AT THIS TIME AT THE TIME, NEIGHBORS INDICATED THAT THE CASE LOOKS COMPLICATED AND WE NEED TIME TO ANALYZE WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED VERSUS WHAT IS PROPOSED. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YET, AND WE SURE NEED TIME TO UNDERSTAND IT. PLEASE KNOW THAT THE SAC REPORT IN THIS CASE, OH, MISS, WHAT SHOULD BE A MA A MATERIAL PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR YOUR DELIBERATION? IT DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT A CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS TRACK AS A NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER WITH 86 UNITS WAS APPROVED IN 2016. AND IT DOES NOT TELL YOU OR THE PUBLIC THAT APPARENTLY NOW THEIR REQUIREMENTS OF THIS APPROVED SITE PLAN ARE A PROBLEM FOR THE APPLICANT AND CURRENT OWNERS. THOSE DETAILS ARE PRETTY IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORS TO DIGEST. AND I WOULD HOPE FOR YOU. AND AGAIN, THIS I PLAN WAS FOR 86 UNITS WAS PASSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE CON ON CONSENT IN 2016, NO ONE TOLD US THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER BIG CHANGE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW 130 UNITS INSTEAD OF 86. AND THIS AND THIS AND THIS CASE HAS EVEN SAID FOR CONSENT TO NO ONE EVEN TOLD US IT WAS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. THIS IS NOT FEEL LIKE HOW OFTEN SEDITION SHOULD BE TREATED. NO REAL NOTICE, NO REAL EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT, WHY AND HOW JUST MORE IMPACT APPROVED WITHOUT INFORMED PARTICIPATION. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. , JARED KORBEL ON THE LINE. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. UH, JARED CORVELLE WITH STORYVILLE. CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GREAT. OKAY. THANKS GUYS. UH, ADAM, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. UH, I THINK OUR ONLY REBUTTAL TO THAT IS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, THE HOFFMAN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SINCE OCTOBER OF 2019, UH, OUT OF COURTESY TO THE STONE GATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS, UH, ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT. UH, ADAM AND I SPOKE AND I SENT OVER ADAM, UH, A PRESENTATION ON JUNE 19TH, UH, EXPLAINING KIND OF WHAT OUR PROPOSAL WAS FROM, UH, FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT. AND REALLY THE, THE SHORT MATTER IS WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ADDITIONAL DENSITY OR A WHILE, WHILE IT IS AN UP ZONE FROM SF THREE NP TO SF SIX. UM, AND THERE IS, UH, AN APPROVED PLAN FOR 86 UNITS. UH, CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS ALLOW THAT PROJECT TO GET UP TO OVER A HUNDRED UNITS AND PER THE PRESENTATION WE WOULD BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS, UH, WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING 103 UNITS, AND WE ARE ALSO, UH, READY TO DEDICATE SOME AFFORDABILITY UNITS, UH, TO THE PROJECT. AND SO I GUESS OUR CONCERN IS SINCE WE GAVE THIS INFORMATION TO STONE GATE, UH, ALMOST 50 DAYS AGO, UM, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD, UH, A LOT OF, UH, RECEPTION FROM STONE GATE. I'VE BEEN KIND OF ASKING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE INFORMATION WAS GOING TO BE SENT OUT SO THEY COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT. AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK. THE LAST CORRESPONDENCE I GOT WAS, UH, JUNE 23RD, AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE, UH, THE EAST MLK, UH, CONTACT TEAM, UH, BACK IN OCTOBER AS WELL. AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAD WITH THE HOG PEN WAS NOT ENOUGH PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE A VOTE. SO THE MLK CONTACT TEAM WAS GOING TO TRY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW THEY COULD PROCEED. UM, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALSO, WE'VE GOTTEN KIND OF SOME, SOME PERSONAL, UH, VOTES OF COMPETENCE IN THE PROJECT. SO JUST THAT LATER, I DON'T KNOW THAT SEPTEMBER IS NECESSARY. THANK YOU, MR. CORVELLE THAT THAT'S YOUR TIME, UM, COMMISSIONER SECRET. I SEE YOUR HAND UP, UH, YOU'RE MUTED. HOLD ON, GO AHEAD. IN THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE I HAVE THIS APP LATE THIS AFTERNOON, I REQUESTED BECAUSE THE REASON IS THAT I JUST RECEIVED INFORMATION TODAY ABOUT THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND THE CUP ON THAT PROPERTY. AND I REALLY WANTED TO LOOK INTO WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER. YES. WHICH IS WHAT'S ON IT NOW WITH THE SEAT. SO I WANTED MORE TIME. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, SHEA. SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEIGHBORS SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ON TODAY'S AGENDA. CAN STAFF TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NOTIFICATION, CAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WENT OUT TO ALL THE INTERESTED PARTIES AND STUFF. UH, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, THAT THE NOTIFICATION, WAS IT PROPERLY NOTIFIED MS. CHAFFIN ON THE LINE? [00:20:10] UM, WHILE WE MAY BE WAITING FOR MS. CHEFF AND, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, OF APPLICANT, MR. CORBELL. UM, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. AND SCHEFFING YES. UH, AGAIN, HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING, ALL MODIFICATION REQUIRED FOR THIS WAS DONE PROPERLY AND ON TIME, THE NOTICE OF FILING THE NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING AS REQUIRED. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT TIME? OKAY. AND THEN, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY ANY SITES, IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, NOBODY'S HAD A PROPOSAL ON THAT BEFORE, CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. RIGHT. AND I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. CORBELL THE APPLICANT, IS THERE SOMETHING PARTICULAR TO THIS PROJECT THAT, UM, IS, IS PARTICULARLY TIME SENSITIVE? I MEAN, UH, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE, UH, FRUSTRATIONS YOU'RE EXPRESSING HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO TYPICALLY IT IS OUR PRACTICE AT THIS POINT TO OFFER A POSTPONE AT THE REQUEST OF A, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS BEING COVID THINGS OR THINGS ARE A LITTLE, UH, OFF KILTER. UM, IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT THIS CASE AND IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? WELL, THERE THERE'S NOT, BUT I, I THINK MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS A MID SEPTEMBER HEARING. I AM, I'M CERTAINLY OKAY WITH A POSTPONEMENT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO WAIT ANOTHER 45 DAYS. AND QUITE HONESTLY, UH, BASED ON THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE'RE HAVING SO FAR, MY COMPETENCE LEVEL IS, UH, IS JUST A LITTLE BIT LOW, UH, BASED ON THE LACK OF RESPONSES. SO I AM CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING AND, AND WILLING TO, TO, TO BE ON BOARD WITH A POSTPONEMENT. I WOULD JUST RATHER NOT GO TO, UH, MID SEPTEMBER. UM, MR. RIVERA, MS. CHEN, CAN YOU FYS, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TILL SEPTEMBER 8TH IS A LITTLE LONG, UH, UM, WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT SEPTEMBER 8TH INSTEAD OF, UH, SAY OUR NEXT MEETING? CAN I TALK ON PLANNING AND ZONING? THIS IS WHAT WAS REQUESTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WERE LOOKING AT THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE THEN THERE WAS AUGUST A LETTER AND AUGUST 21ST. OKAY. UM, MR. SHARP, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? UM, SEPTEMBER 8TH IS A, IS A HECK OF A DELAY THERE. UM, WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY SURE, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, UM, DO YOU THINK THAT WE COULD GET THIS DONE AND TWO OR FOUR WEEKS, UH, WITH YOUR, UM, WITH THE CONSULTATIONS? YEAH, THE, THE REASON FOR THE LONGER POSTPONEMENT IS BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MEETINGS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS THAT DON'T GAY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, NOT GOING TO MEET UNTIL THE 19TH AND THEN THE ETHAN OKAY. CONTACT A TEAM MEETING. IT'S NOT UNTIL THE 17TH. SO I WOULD WANT JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL TIME AFTER THOSE MEETINGS TO FURTHER DISCUSS WITH MY ACTUAL WORK KNOW WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THOSE MEETINGS. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN AT ALL OF THESE MEETINGS THESE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED WITH THESE MEETING REQUESTS AND THESE ZONING CHANGES, AND IT TAKES TIME. WE WERE NOT THE ZONING PROFESSIONALS. THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF US HAVE A LOT OF NO FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE. SO I DO THINK ALLOWING THIS TIME, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT IT, TO BE HONEST, BUT, UM, DO WE JUST LIKE A LITTLE ADDITIONAL TIME, BECAUSE WE HAVE, WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THIS WEEK. AND SO, YEAH, WE JUST NEED, WE JUST LEAVE THIS EXTRA TIME. ALSO, THIS, THIS HAS JUST BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR FOUR YEARS, SO I DON'T SEE WHAT THE RUSH IS TO GET IT DONE. YOU KNOW, OTHER DIFFERENCES A MONTH FROM NOW. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SHARP. BUT, UH, BUT, UH, SO I, I DO JUST WANT TO NOTE ON YOUR RESPONSE HERE THAT, UM, OUR MEETING ON AUGUST 25TH WILL FALL, UH, ABOUT A WEEK AFTER YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, UM, COMMISSIONER SEEGER, WE'VE ALREADY HIT YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES, WHO HAS A COMMENT OR QUESTION BEFORE WE CIRCLE BACK TO COMMISSIONER SEGER? JUST GO AHEAD. I WANTED TO SUGGEST AUGUST 25TH. THAT IS FOLLOWING THE MEETINGS. YES, IT IS CLOSE A TINY NEIGHBORHOOD. IS THAT A MOTION COMMISSIONER SEEKER THAT WE POSTPONE THIS HEARING UNTIL AUGUST 25TH. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY? UM, MR. SEEGER, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK [00:25:01] TO YOUR MOTION? WELL, QUITE HONESTLY, I WANT TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT BECAUSE I WAS ON, I VOTED FOR THE ORIGINAL 2016. SO I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE EXISTING SITE PLAN, THE BABY SIX MINUTES. OKAY. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO GREEN IF YOU SUPPORT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 25TH. OKAY. UM, THAT IS UNANIMOUS. UM, SO ITEM NUMBER BA AT 17. YES. CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, SURE. GO AHEAD. UM, I THINK THE AUTOMATICALLY, IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, THERE'S NOTIFICATION FOR A CHANGE LIKE THIS, THAT GOES OUT TO SEE THE CONTACT TEAM, BUT IF YOU'RE JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THAT'S JUST ONLY PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND YOU CAN CREATE SORT OF AN INTERESTED PARTY AND, AND REGISTERS AN INTERESTED PARTY OR NOT JUST YOUR ASSOCIATION BOUNDARIES, BUT, BUT AREAS AROUND THAT. AND SO THEN YOU WILL GET NOTIFIED BY THE CITY FOR CHANGES LIKE THIS. AND IF YOU'D LIKE HELP DOING THAT, IF YOU NEED TO TALK TO ME OR POSSIBLY CITY STAFF AND WE COULD HELP YOU DO THAT. YES. MR. SHARP, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL HEATHER CHEFF AND AT THE, UH, AT THE CITY, HER NUMBER, UM, SINCE IT'S POSTED PUBLIC KEY HERE ON THE AGENDA IS (512) 974-2122. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOLKS. I'M MOVING ON TO ITEM B 10 AND OTHER DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. UM, THIS CHAIR, WE ALSO SAID BENIGN WAS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. [B9. Rezoning: C14-2019-0108 - Parker House; District 9] YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. LET'S START WITH BENIGN TWO, FOUR OH FOUR RIO GRANDE STREET. UM, NO, I THINK WE JUST PULLED OUT THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS A DISCUSSION FOR POSTPONEMENT. SO, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY REQUEST THE POSTPONEMENT. SO LET'S LOOK CHAIR. I THINK THAT MAYBE MS. SHAKEN MAY HAVE THE UPDATED BACKUP. I THINK AT ONE POINT UAP WAS AGAINST THE NOW THERE, OR IS IT THE CHANGES TO THE CASE? I DON'T KNOW. MS. JASON WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT. YES. HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING ON THE PARKER HOUSE REZONING ORIGINALLY STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING, EXCUSE ME, A 15 FOOT SETBACK OF THE HISTORIC HISTORIC LANDMARK ZONING, UH, FROM THE REAR OF THE PARKER HOUSE BUILDING. THIS WENT TO A HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AS WAS NOTED. THEY DID NOT SUPPORT ANY CHANGE IN THE H ZONING, WHICH IS OVER THE WHOLE PROPERTY, INCLUDING A PARKING LOT. UH, SO NOT JUST THE PARKER HOUSE AREA, BUT AN ADDITIONAL AREA. THEY NOTED NOT TO SUPPORT ANY CHANGE IN THE ZONING THAT, UH, AGAIN, RECOMMENDED THAT WE FUNCTION WITH THE PARKER HOUSE HAVE THE 15 FOOT SETBACK, BUT AFTER HEARING FROM UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS, THEY HAD ORIGINALLY OPPOSED A ZONING CHANGE, BUT THERE WAS NO BACKUP PROVIDED FRIDAY THAT SHOWS THAT THE APPLICANT, THE AGENT SUPPORT EIGHT, 10 FOOT BACK AND STAFF HAS REVIVED THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO MATCH THAT 10 FOOT SECTION. YES. HERE. OH, BREAKUP AND VIDEO ASPIRE. IS THAT JUST WAIT, I THINK YOU WERE HAVING SOME, UH, INTERNET BANDWIDTH ISSUES THERE, COMMISSION HAVING STANDING AND SIGNING. I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THE AGENT FOR THIS PROJECT WAS NOT ABLE TO SIGN UP THIS EVENING. SO IF THERE'S NOT THOUGH FOR CONSENT APPROVAL, THEN IT WILL NEED TO BE POSTPONED. LET'S GIVE CHEROKEE ANOTHER MINUTE TO GET THAT. COME ON. ALRIGHT. JUST CHANGING LOCATIONS, FOLKS GETTING CLOSER TO MY ROUTER. UM, [00:30:02] PUSH YOUR SEGER. YES. I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. CAN PACK THE OTHER INTERESTED PARTY IN THIS AREA IS NOT APPROVING ANY CHANGE IN OPPOSITION. SUPPOSEDLY THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN A LETTER FROM FANFAN EXPRESSING THIS POSITION AND I DON'T SEE IT IN OUR BACKUP. AND IF SO, COULD YOU SHARE IT WITH US PLEASE? CAN I SHARE? I DO NOT BELIEVE I HAVE THAT LETTER, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH MY EMAILS TO MAKE SURE CHARITY SAY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER'S. YEAH. I'M CHRISTIAN SHUTTER. GO AHEAD. AND, AND WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THAT, MR. RIVERA, IF YOU'VE DONE THAT, COULD YOU PULL THAT UP ON OUR SCREEN FOR THE COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER? UH, I THINK I ASKED YOU BEFORE, BUT I WASN'T SURE THAT WE'VE GOT AN ANSWER. IS THERE ANY STAFF THAT CAN SPEAK TO THE HISTORIC COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION OR ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YES. COMMISSIONER STEVE, GO AHEAD. MR. SEDOWSKY HAS MS. JAFFIN SERVED THIS CASE, WENT TO THE HLC IN MAY. UH, WE WERE CONCERNED. STAFF WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE SETBACK, THE SETBACK, UH, WE RECOMMENDED WAS 15 FEET BHOP AS MS. CHAPMAN SAID, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT NO CHANGE IN THE ZONING TAKES PLACE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT WAS, UH, WOULD THE ZONING, EVEN ON THE PARKING LOT, BE ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE WAS REQUIRED TO IT UP APPROPRIATELY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING. OKAY. FOLKS AT THIS POINT WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE MERITS OF THE CASE. UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE, UH, THE SITUATION SEEMS TO BE IS THAT, UM, THERE'S UNCERTAINTY ABOUT CAMPEX LETTER, A UAP, I THINK HAD OPPOSED, BUT IS NOW SENDING A LETTER SUPPORTING, AND THAT ISN'T OUR BACKUP ONLINE. NOW I SEE, UM, WE HAD, UH, THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK COMMISSION VOTE AGAINST AND MAY. UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME, SOME, AND THE PURPORTED AGREEMENT BETWEEN PARTIES, BUT THE INFORMATION IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR ON THAT. UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THE STATE OF THIS CASE, WE, WE NEED TO MAKE A CALL ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HEAR IT TONIGHT OR SNYDER. I JUST FEEL LIKE, UH, LIKE I MIGHT ACTUALLY BE IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED AGAINST IT. SO I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONLY RIGHT TO LET THEM SAY THEIR PIECE AND FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THAT DONE BEFORE IN TIME FOR THE NEXT, UM, IN TIME FOR THE NEXT YEAR. AND, UH, MR. SNYDER'S THAT EMOTION. YEAH. IF WE CAN, THEN I WOULD MOVE THAT, UH, THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO AUGUST 11TH. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION THAT THE, I THINK THAT'S COMMISSIONER SECRET, SECONDING THAT MOTION. UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? WE SHOULD SPEAK A FAVOR. UM, ALL RIGHT. UH, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS TO POSTPONE UNTIL AUGUST 11TH. UM, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, GO GREEN AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT ITEM WAS POSTPONED UNTIL AUGUST 11TH. LET ME GRAB MY VOTE. ALRIGHT. [B10. Rezoning: C14-2020-0067 - 3504 S. 1st Street Rezoning; District 3] NEXT POSTPONEMENT ITEM. I BELIEVE EIGHT, 10 BEATS IN, UH, AT 35 OH FOUR WEST FIRST STREET, WEST BOLDEN CREEK. UM, WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS. POSTPONING ARE REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH WITH THE APPLICANT, OPPOSED. UM, CAN WE HEAR FROM MS. PETTY SPRINKLE ON THE LINE AND A REMINDER YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE OKAY. 30 SPRINKLE [00:35:01] NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH. WE'RE REAL FAINT. IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN GET CLOSER TO A PHONE OR COME OFF SPEAKERPHONE? YES. HANG ON ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. SORRY. I RADIATION AND ALL, WHATEVER. UM, AND ANYWAY, UM, WE, UM, THEN WE GO INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BECAME AWARE OF THIS PROJECT IN LATE JUNE. WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER. WE HAD OUR FIRST ZOOM MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LAST NIGHT, OUR PROCESSES, THUS THAT WE BRING IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN WE, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WE WOULD TAKE A VOTE ON THE PROJECT. NOW WE UNDERSTAND ORIGINALLY WE HAD REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A 60 DAY LIMIT. WE TOTALLY CAN APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT, UM, WE ARE, AND WE ALSO WILLING AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO HOLD A SPECIAL CALL MEETING AT THE END OF AUGUST. AND SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO PRINT UP SOME SIGNS. WE STILL HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, AND IN OUR DISTRICT, WHICH WE'RE PART OF DISTRICT THREE THAT DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF INTERNET ACCESS. SO WE HAVE TO REALLY DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE AND UNDERSTANDS THIS PROJECT. SO, UM, WE, WE JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT WE COULD HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH THAT GIVES US EVERYBODY TIME TO GET ALL THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WE KNOW THAT, UM, THIS MERCK LIST PROJECT, UM, IS NOT DUE TO CLOSE PROBABLY UNTIL OCTOBER OF 2021. SO WE FEEL LIKE HAVING A MONTHS TIME TO REALLY FULLY INVESTIGATE THIS IS SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT THAT, THAT IT'S, UH, AN OKAY REQUEST TO MAKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU. UH, IS MR. SUTTLE ON THE LINE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN GO AHEAD. YEAH. MY NAME IS RICHARD SUTTLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. THIS WAS A CASE THAT HAS BEEN FILED TO ALLOW FOR MORE HOUSING DOWN IN THIS AREA. IT WAS FILED AROUND JULY. I MEAN, JUNE IMMEDIATELY IT'S CALLED THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, UH, BEFORE IT WAS ACTUALLY THE DAY WE FILED IT. WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. UM, WE JUST THINK THAT SEPTEMBER IS, IS TOO FAR. WE'RE TRYING TO PLAN THIS PROJECT WITH A PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT. WE, WE WERE HOPING WE COULD AGREE TO AN AUGUST 11TH MEETING AND WE'LL WHATEVER, NOTICE IT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS. WE'LL, WE'LL HELP FUND THAT IF, IF THAT'S A PROBLEM, BUT SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM GETTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO PARTICIPATE IN A MEETING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO IRON OUT THE DETAILS BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT FOR, UH, WE PUT OFF FOR A MONTH AND A HALF OR TWO MONTHS ON A, ON A CASE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT THAT COMPLICATED. AND WE'D ASK THAT YOU TEE US UP FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW AND WE'LL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LINE, UH, EITHER BRUCE OR JULES CAIN WHO WISHES TO ADD MORE TO THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT A WINDOW POSTPONE ITSELF? HI ANDREW. THIS IS BRUCE BRUCE NIGH WITH. UM, IF I MAY GO AHEAD, UM, COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS BRUCE NIGH. I APPRECIATE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. UH, I AM ON A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND A RESIDENT OF THE CARDINAL LANE, UH, CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY. MR. NOW YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU'RE ON SPEAKER PHONE, CAN YOU COME OFF OR GET CLOSER TO YOUR PHONE? HOW'S THAT THAT'S MUCH BETTER. YEAH. OKAY. I'M A MEMBER OF THE CARDINAL LANE, CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY, INC. I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE SIT AT SEVEN OH SEVEN CARDINAL LANE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. AND WE SIT DUE WEST AND DOWNHILL OF MERCURY HALL. UH, WE'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE OF THIS PROCEEDING, UH, UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH. IT IS OUR FIRST REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE. WE OBTAINED NOTICE VIA MAIL IN, I GUESS, MID JULY OF THIS PROJECT. UNLIKE THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT MR. SUTTLE HAS MADE, WE HAVE HAD NO MEETINGS WITH THE OWNERS OR THE APPLICANT CONCERNING THIS PROJECT. UH, WE'VE NOT SEEN, WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'VE NOT SEEN ANY PLANS WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTY. I ASSUME HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MERCURY WHOLE PROPERTY. UH, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE IN, UH, FULLY HAVE IN MIND FOR THAT PROPERTY. UH, AND SO WE HAVE 30, UH, HOMEOWNERS HERE. I DID NOTICE, AND I WOULD NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT LISTED, [00:40:01] UH, AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION ON YOUR BACKUP INFORMATION, ON THE ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET. UH, IT WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. UH, WE WOULD LIKE AT LEAST A 30 DAY, 30 DAY CONTINUANCE TO, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM OUR NEIGHBORS, TO POSSIBLY MEET WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS, UH, TO MORE FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WHATEVER IT GOES ON AND WHATEVER THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING WITH REGARD TO THAT PROPERTY HAS A MAJOR IMPACT ON US AS WE SIT DOWN HILL FROM IT. SO WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, WATER RUNOFF. KAY. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. NYE. UM, SO THE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE ON, UH, ON THE TABLE HERE TO SEPTEMBER 8TH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS, UM, ARE THERE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS OR WISH TO SPEAK? UH, AND, AND IF EVERYONE WHO JUST SPOKE CAN STAY ON THE LINE, TURN DOWN YOUR TVS AND STAY OFF SPEAKERPHONE. UH, I THINK THAT'LL HELP EVERYBODY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR EVERYTHING. UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND ASK THE QUESTION. UH, MR. NYE, UM, YOU MENTIONED A ONE MONTH POSTPONE THEN AS NUMBER EIGHT WILL BE SIX WEEKS, UH, ABOUT A MONTH WOULD BE AUGUST 25TH. UM, THAT IS, IS HALFWAY BETWEEN YOU AND, AND WHAT THE APPLICANT IS, IS DESIRING AND WOULD BE ABOUT A MONTH. UM, HOW DOES, HOW DOES, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TIME TO REST YOUR NUMBERS? WELL, I, I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE THAT OFFER. UM, THAT DAY WE'D DISCUSSED THAT DATE, UH, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY SUGGESTED IT AUGUST 11TH. UH, SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BIG NUMBER, A NUMBER OF OWNERS ARE NOT PRESENT HERE RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE'RE LIKE IN THE TOTALITY, THE PANDEMIC, WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UH, WE JUST FELT THAT A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS IS WHAT WE NEEDED. AND SO THE NEXT MEETING DATE AFTER THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SEPTEMBER 8TH. OKAY. UM, A TINY SPRINKLE. DO YOU WANT TO, UH, COULD YOU SPEAK AT ALL TO THAT? UM, SIX WEEKS IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL, UH, FOR A DELAY. UM, UH, 25TH WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN PRACTICE. UM, WHAT ABOUT 30 DAYS BE ENOUGH FOR YOU? UM, I AGREE WITH BRUCE THAT WE, WE NEED THE TIME. I CAN APPRECIATE MR. SUTTLES POSITION, BUT THIS IS UNUSUAL TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN. AND AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE CONSTRAINTS AND WE CAN SEND OUT, UM, A NOTICE TO EVERYBODY AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET ONLINE AND VOTE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING REMOTELY. IT JUST REQUIRES A LOT MORE EFFORT ON OUR PART. AND AS SOMEBODY IN ONE OF THE LAST CASES SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT OUR DAY JOB. WE ARE HERE JUST DOING OUR BEST FOR VOLUNTEERS. AND, UM, THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2007. AND IT, IT IT'S THERE FOR A REASON. AND MAYBE MANY OF YOU DON'T KNOW, THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION IS VERY HIGH ON THE HILL. UM, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION WAS PUT IN PLACE. THERE'S 2000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY ALREADY, WHICH YOU KNOW, TO MY MIND, THAT'S NEVER THANK YOU TO SPRINKLE IT. YEAH, I THINK I GREW UP, YES. I KNOW. DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, SO YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH HERE ASKING FOR SIX WEEKS, PLEASE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DEAL WITH? SORRY, WHEN I PUSHED THE NO MUTE BUTTON, IT CUTS YOU OFF. SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. UH, THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS HERE WHO ARE, UH, WHO YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH ON THIS CASE OR ASKING FOR THE SIX WEEK DELAY AND SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFICULTIES GETTING IT DONE WITHIN THE MONTH. UM, WHAT IS YOUR, UH, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON, ON THE 25TH VERSUS SEPTEMBER 8TH, CONSIDERING THAT A, IT MIGHT MAKE THE NEIGHBOR GROUPS, UM, LITTLE, HOPEFULLY MORE POSITIVELY INCLINED TOWARDS THIS CASE WHEN YOU PUT IT THAT WAY. IT'S HARD. I MEAN, I WAS HOPING TO REACH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE 11TH. I COULD AGREE IT WAS 25TH, GIVEN THAT WE HAD NOT CONTACTED YET, UH, THE, THE GROUP NEXT TO US, ONCE YOU START PUSHING IT MORE THAN A MONTH OFF, THEN IT PUSHES YOUR DATE OFF. AND IT THERE'S JUST A CASCADING EFFECT. AND, UM, I HATE TO AGREE TO THE 25TH BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS IS GOING, I'D RATHER KEEP THE 11TH, BUT I THINK WE COULD ALL GET PREPARED IF WE ALL GOT TOGETHER. I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY, IT'S GOING TO BE A PHONE CALL ANYWAY, THE 25TH WOULD BE REASONABLE AND WE COULD, WE COULD AGREE TO THAT. ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE MUTED [00:45:04] MOTION TO POSTPONE TO AUGUST 25TH, SECOND. AND THE SECOND QUESTION ARE ANDERSON. CHRIS, YOUR SECRET DO WAS JUST SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. OKAY. NO, I'M LISTENING TO THREE GROUPS OF PEOPLE SAYING THEY REALLY NEED MORE. UM, ESPECIALLY THE CONDO ROUTE, NOT BEEN INVOLVED AT ALL. I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYTHING'S DONE BY TELEPHONE. HOWEVER, AS VOLUNTEERS, AS WE ALL KNOW UP HERE, THAT VOLUNTEERS HAVE TO SCHEDULE THINGS. SO, UH, LET'S GIVE THEM THE FOUR WAITS AND COME BACK READY TO DISCUSS. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE WHO SHOULD SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR CASA, GO AHEAD, CHERYL AND SPEAK IN FAVOR, BUT ALSO REALLY JUST, UM, UM, ADVISE THE TWO GROUPS THAT I HEARD MR. SUTTLE AGREE TO HELP, UM, THE NOTIFICATION. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS AND, AND IF THEY CAN USE SOME HELP TO NOTIFY, NOTIFY THEIR MEMBERSHIP, UM, I BELIEVE MR. SETTLE OFFERED THAT. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS MOTION? HEARING NONE. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE THE CASE UNTIL AUGUST 25TH GO GREEN. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT, SURE. SIGN THAT. THAT'S A SICKLY LOOKING APPLE. UH, SO, UM, YEAH, SO FOLKS, EVERYONE WHO'S ON THE LINE. SO THE POST, THE CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED TILL AUGUST 25TH. YOU'VE HEARD COMMISSIONER CAUSEY, UH, SUGGEST THAT, UH, MR. SUTTLE MIGHT BE MOTIVATED TO, TO HELP FACILITATE A MEETING. SO, UM, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL HAVE EACH OTHER'S CONTACT INFORMATION. IF NOT, UM, YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH, UH, MR. RIVERA HERE IN THE OFFICE, UM, OR, UH, KATE CLARK AND THE PLANNING ZONING DEPARTMENT. UM, THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT. ALRIGHT. POSTPONE AUGUST 25. ALL RIGHT. UM, [B1. Rezoning: C14-2020-0030 - 200 Montopolis Rezoning; District 3] LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET INTO OUR DISCUSSION AGENDA. UM, SO WE HAVE THESE MONTOPOLIS CASES FIRST. I KNOW THAT NOT EVERYONE, UH, EVERYONE WHO'S ON THE LINE. I KNOW NOT EVERYONE IS WISHES TO SPEAK ON, UH, ALL THREE CASES AT ONCE, BUT, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE, UH, UH, YOUR CONCERNS ARE COMMON TO ALL THREE CASES AND YOU THINK IT MIGHT HELP YOU TO, UM, TO GET AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES OF TIME, UH, TO WORK THROUGH YOUR THOUGHTS MORE COMPLETELY AT THE BEGINNING. UH, THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE WANT TO OFFER YOU. UM, SO THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM STAFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR OPENING REMARKS FOR CASE NUMBER ONE. UM, AND, UH, AND THEN THAT IS THE ONLY, YEAH, AND THEN WE WILL GET INTO THE, UM, THE FOLKS WHO WERE OPPOSED TO THIS, AND YOU CAN EITHER CHOOSE TO SPEAK ON THAT ONE CASE, OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK ON ALL THREE. UM, AND JUST TO REMIND HER ALL THREE OF THESE CASES ARE REZONING FROM SF THREE TO SF SIX. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, UH, THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT REQUIRED BECAUSE, UM, IT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, IF EVERYONE CAN, UM, TURN DOWN YOUR TVS, THERE IS A DELAY, UH, SPEAKERPHONE IS GENERALLY A BAD IDEA, UM, AND, UH, HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. I WILL, I WILL CALL ON EVERYONE, UH, AND, AND GIVE YOU SOME HEADS UP WHEN YOU'RE COMING UP SOON. SO WITH THAT, UM, WE HAVE KATE CLARK ON THE LINE TO INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER B ONE, WHICH IS 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE AND 62 OH EIGHT QUILLA STREET. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, WE CAN YOU'RE YOU'RE A LITTLE FUZZY. OKAY. UM, I WILL TRY AND SPEAK AS CLOSE TO MY SPEAKER AS POSSIBLE. UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A CASE C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO 3,200 MONTOPOLIS REZONING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE AND 62 OH EIGHT CLOVIS STREET. AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 1.3, TWO ACRES IN SIZE. IT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF MONTOPOLIS JIVE, AND THE NORTH SIDE OF CLOVIS STREETS. IT HAS PROPERTIES TO THE WEST AND SOUTH OF IT TO THE NORTH ARE ATTRACT ZONES, P N P AND C CS TO THE EAST ACROSS. AND THE TOPLESS DRIVE IS THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE U S HIGHWAY ONE 83. AND IT IS NOT STONED. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO READ THE NP. THIS PROPERTY IS ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IS THE PUBLIC PARK AND APPROXIMATELY ZONE CS TO THE EAST ACROSS THE NEW TOPLESS DRIVE IS THE U S ONE 83 HIGHWAY. AND MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT THEY [00:50:01] SEND TO THE HIGHWAY ARE YOU ZONED ON THE COMMERCIAL BASED DISTRICT SENDING THIS PROPERTY TO SFX, AND HE WOULD PROVIDE A TRANSITION IN YOUTH INSIGHTS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE SOUTH. THERE HAS BEEN A VALID PETITION FILED FOR THIS CASE. THE CURRENT PERCENTAGE FOR THE PETITION IS 27.23, AND IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MS. CLARK, UM, UH, MR. THROW, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE OR IS VICTORIA HASI DOING IT? I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S, UM, WHO'S, WHO'S GOING FIRST. WHO'S DOING THE MAIN PRESENTATION. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. IF YOU'RE TALKING NOW IT'S STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN, YES. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. OH, BABY POSSE WITH HER WOULD BE FINE. THE SAUSAGE, WE ARE NOT READING YOU VERY CLEARLY. IF, IF YOU'RE ON SPEAKER, IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SWITCH OFF SPEAKER. YEP. GIMME JUST ONE SECOND. AND JUST A REMINDER THAT THERE IS A DELAY ON THE TV, SO YOU CAN EITHER CALL OUT THE SLIDE NUMBER AND TRUST THAT WE'RE THERE. OR IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN GIVE YOU A VERBAL PROMPT WHEN WE'VE REACHED YOUR SLIDE. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UM, OKAY. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS TO HASI WITH MAJORITY DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. MIKE, DID YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP ALREADY? YES, IT IS. AND WE'RE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. GO AHEAD. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY OKAY. WHEN WE FIT THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. PERFECT. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE. THE PROPERTY IS 1.3 ACRES OF LAND THAT HAS REMAINED MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED FOR SOME TIME. I'M HEARING NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND. SORRY. MORE, MORE IMPORTANTLY, NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT DISPLACE ANYONE FROM THIS PROPERTY RATHER THAN PROPERTY IS PERFECTLY SITUATED TO RECEIVE NEW HOMES FOR FAMILIES OF ALL KINDS. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THIS MAP PROVIDES CONTEXT FOR PROXIMITY TO IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS AND CENTERS. THERE IS AN IMAGINED AUSTIN TOWN CENTER ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACK. IT IS CENTERED AROUND EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE. UM, THERE ARE ALSO, UM, SOME TRANSIT STOPS IN THE VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT TRACKS AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. UM, THE SUBJECT TRACT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE MONTOPOLIS RIVER TERRACE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY PROVIDES ADDITIONAL AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF REGULATIONS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OF ANY TYPE, UM, WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THOSE BOUNDS. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THE REQUEST IS FOR A SPECIFIC ZONING, WHICH KEEPS THE PROPERTY IN THE SINGLE FAMILY GROUP OF ZONING DISTRICTS. THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ARE FEW AND YET SIGNIFICANT TO ACHIEVING A BUILDING LAYOUT THAT IS MORE RESPONSIBLE TO EXISTING CONDITIONS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE REQUEST IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AS THE SINGLE FAMILY TEACHER LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWED FOR ALL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS FROM SF ONES, OR SSX NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. THIS EXCERPT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN RECOMMENDS RESIDENTS OR USES ON REMAINING UNDEVELOPED LAND THAT DOES NOT FRONT RIVERSIDE DRIVE OR HIGHWAY ONE 83, UH, FURTHER THE PLAN REFERS TO THE SOC ZONING DISTRICT AS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT OPTION TO ACHIEVE SMART GROWTH UNTIL DEVELOPMENT. NOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THIS PROPERTY GUIDES DEVELOPMENT OF SINGLE FAMILY TYPES OF WHICH THE ASSET SIX ZONING DISTRICT IS INCLUDED IN WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THIS PROPERTY? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DOCUMENT REVEALS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S DESIRE FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND INTENSITIES, UM, AND ENCOURAGES SUCH TYPES OF LAND THAT HAS, UH, ENCOURAGES THOSE ON LAND ANYWHERE FROM SF ONE THROUGH MSX. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE PROPERTY IS PARKED AWAY AT THE VERY NORTH END OF MONTOPOLIS DRIVE EVEN. SO THE PROPERTY IS LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM THE PORTION OF MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. THAT IS PART OF THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK, AND CURRENTLY HAS TRANSIT ACCESS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. FURTHER THE PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE HIGH, UH, TO HIGHWAY ONE 83 WITH, UH, 16 LANES OF CARS PASSING AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT THAT PLANNING PRINCIPLES GUIDE PROPERTIES SUCH AS THIS AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. YET IT IS HARDLY A PLACE WHERE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE WELCOMED BY [00:55:01] THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOR DOES IT HAVE APPROPRIATE ACCESS FOR COMMERCIAL USES. INSTEAD OF BSS SIX ZONING DISTRICTS AT THIS LOCATION WILL PROVIDE A GRADATION OF SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY TOWARDS THE HIGHWAY, WHICH WILL ESSENTIALLY CREATE A BUFFER FOR THOSE SF THREE PROPERTIES IN ON THE INTERIOR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF EXISTING AND PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICTS SHOW HOW SIMILAR THE TWO DISTRICTS ARE. UH, I ALSO HAVE A THIRD COLUMN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE TABLE THAT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT ON THIS, ON THESE SPECIFIC TRACKS. UM, THEY ALLOW NEARLY THE SAME DENSITY WHEN CONSIDERING DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. IN FACT, S THREE IS MORE DENSE THAN SSX CONSIDERING THAT EVERY SF THREE LOT FROM IT, THE HOUSE IN AN ADU, BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS ALLOW THE SAME BUILDING HEIGHT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL SURROUNDING SFE PROPERTY. AND THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IS THAT A STEP SIX ALLOWS CLUSTERING A STRUCTURE TO WORK AROUND KEY LAND FEATURES. ANOTHER KEY DIFFERENCE IS THAT SOC REQUIRES A 25 FOOT BUILDING SETBACKS FROM ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED LESS THAN SSX. SO IN CONTRAST, DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION MUCH CLOSER AT JUST FIVE FEET, EXISTING PROPERTIES AND HOMES IN THE END. SO SIX OFFERS A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT THAT IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, MORE COST EFFICIENT, AND APPEALS TO THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO MAINTAIN A LARGE YARD AND WITH LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN SFP SUBDIVISION COULD LOOK LIKE AT THIS LOCATION. THERE COULD BE SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS WITH EACH PLOT, HAVING THE ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT FOR A TOTAL OF 14 DWELLING UNITS. EACH DWELLING UNIT WOULD REQUIRE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS THE SAME WAY OUT SHOWING EXISTING DEVELOPMENT FOR CONTACTS. NOTICE THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF 201 TOPLESS. THOSE ARE A RECENT 2017 DEVELOPMENT WHERE A SINGLE LARGE LOT WITH SOME DIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS WITH EACH LOT, HAVING TWO UNITS FOR A TOTAL OF SIX UNITS, NEWLY CONSTRUCTED UNDER EXISTING SF THREE ZONING ENTITLEMENTS. UM, THE TWO SUBJECT CHECKS WOULD, WOULD HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THAT WAS FOR COMPARISON. THIS IS A POSSIBLE LAYOUT FOR WHAT AN DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IF THIS LOCATION SITE AREA REQUIREMENTS ARE SUCH THAT NO MORE THAN 16 UNITS CAN BE ACHIEVED ACROSS THE LAND AREA OF BOTH LOTS. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE POSSIBILITY FOR THESE PROPERTIES IS TWO UNITS, 14 DWELLING UNITS VERSUS 16 DWELLING UNITS. FOR DIFFERENCES. THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN BE MORE SUSTAINABLE, MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE AND CAN PROVIDE SMALLER UNITS THAT WILL COST LESS THAN AN SF THREE DWELLING UNIT WOULD COST. I ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER IF THE BENEFITS OF AN SIX DEVELOPMENT OUTWEIGH WHAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE A BURDEN. UM, IT IS A BURDEN ON OUR ENVIRONMENT, OUR RURAL LANDS IN OUR CITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO PUSH, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO THE OUTSKIRTS OF AUSTIN AND PUT PEOPLE FURTHER AWAY FROM SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITY. AND WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR AN ADDITION OF TWO MORE UNITS ON THIS, ON THESE TWO TRACKS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK CLOSELY AT JUST HOW SIMILAR ZONING DISTRICTS ARE. OUR REQUEST IS MORE OR LESS LABEL VERSUS A DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT. IN WHICH MANY NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TOLD TO SEE HER INFORMATION I'VE BEEN CIRCULATING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE SFX DISTRICT IS AKIN TO A HURRICANE OF DENSITY THAT WILL CLASS WITH EXISTING AND OVER WELL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH TOO MANY PEOPLE AND TOO MANY CARS. IN REALITY, THE SFX ZONING DISTRICT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVICTION DEVELOPMENT AND IS THEREFORE ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE FOR PROPERTIES LIKE THIS IN THE CORE SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS WHERE VACANT LAND PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR BETTER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR SUPPORT TO BUILD TWO ADDITIONAL HOMES ON THIS SITE. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, IN, UH, UM, MR. THROWER DO WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. COMMISSIONER'S GOING TO HEAR ME, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT, MR. STORER, UM, COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU CAN HEAR ME. UH, YES. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE AS VICTORIA HAD POINTED OUT, UH, THE DIFFERENCE IN SF THREE AND SSX DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY IS EITHER 14 UNITS OR 16 UNITS. AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS CLOSER TO ONE 83 THAN IT IS TO MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REITERATE THAT THE PROPOSAL COMPLIES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD [01:00:01] PLAN, VICTORIA POINTED OUT A LOT OF THE POINTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT ARE VERY RELEVANT TO THE SITUATION. AND SO WITH SSX DEVELOPMENT, YOU GET GREATER SETBACKS, YOU GET A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT, YOU GET ONE DRIVEWAY INSTEAD OF MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS. YOU IT'S LESS IMPACT ON TAXPAYERS. IT'S GREATER DRAINAGE DRAINAGE FEE REVENUE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. IT'S PRIVATE MAINTENANCE FOR PONDS, IT'S PRIVATE MAINTENANCE FOR THE INTERNAL DRIVE. IT'S PRIVATE MAINTENANCE FOR THE COMMON GROUNDS. IT IS MUCH GREATER TREE PROTECTION AND FLEXIBILITY. AND THE DESIGNED TO WORK AROUND THE TREES AND OTHER SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS LIKELY LESS OVERALL IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THERE'S GREATER SOCIAL INTERACTION OPPORTUNITIES AND THESE, THESE CONDITIONS. AND I JUST STRONGLY ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO LOOK AT SSX AS AN ALTERNATIVE ASSET THREE, FOR THESE MANY REASONS, AS WELL AS SSX IS ESSENTIALLY A DOWN ZONING AND THE DENSITY ALLOWED ON ANY PIECE OF PROPERTY. SF THREE ALLOWS FOR TWO UNITS ON 5,750 SQUARE FEET. AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE 7,000 SQUARE FEET UNDER SS SIX TO BE ABLE TO GET TWO UNITS. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'RE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL IN THE END. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TO THOSE WHO WERE OPPOSED AND, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, WE, UH, WE CAN OFFER YOU DOUBLE TIME IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN, UH, SPEAKING TO ALL THREE ITEMS NOW, OR YOU'RE FREE TO TAKE YOUR, YOUR NORMAL TIME, UH, ACROSS ALL THREE ITEMS. IT'S UP TO YOU. UM, UH, EVERYBODY SHOULD REMEMBER TO TURN DOWN YOUR TV CAUSE THERE WAS A DELAY AND, UM, SPEAKERPHONE IS, IS USUALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA. SO, UM, AND THEN STAR SIX, UNMUTES YOU SO FIRST UP I HAVE SUSANA ALMANZA. UM, AND THEN, UH, SO YOU COULD HAVE, UH, SIX MINUTES OR IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON ALL THE ITEMS, YOU CAN TAKE 12 NOW. UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT I HAVE PETER SIMON I AND DANIEL HARP, UH, WHO IS ONLY SPEAKING ON ONE. I HAVE. SO AS A MONZA, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I'M ON THE LINE. I CAN. AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK JUST ON THIS CASE OR ON ALL THREE CASES? UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON, ON THREE CASES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. AND I'M THE I'M ON TOP OF NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM, AND WE HAVE A VALID POINT AGAINST ALL THREE PROPERTIES. AND MY TOP IS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. CONTACT TEAM MET MAY 26, 2020 AT THE SOUTHEAST HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. NO REPRESENTATIVES FROM RON THROUGH OR HAVE THE AUTHORITY DESIGN GROUP APPEARED AT THE MEETING WHO THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM ALL THE, WHO ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM ALL THE ABOVE, THEY REFUSED TO ATTEND A CONTACT MEETING BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT COMFORTABLE COMING TO MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY. THE MEETING WAS BEING HELD AT ONE OF THE MOST SANITIZED LOCATIONS, THE SOUTHEAST HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND THE ROOM WAS HUGE ENOUGH TO HAVE SOCIAL DISTANCE. THEY SENT BACK UP MATERIAL. THEY HAVE A MEETING AT 4:13 PM. THEN ON TOP OF IT WAS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM OF POSES, SONY CHANGE CHANGING FOR ALL THE ABOVE MR. PROPERTIES. THEN ON TOP OF HIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS COMPLETED UNDER THE CITY OF AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND PROGRAM, AND WAS ADOPTED AS PART OF THE OFFICE TOMORROW. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2001, THE PROPERTIES B ONE B TWO AND B THREE APPROVED AS STRICTLY SF N P ZONING DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO MISREPRESENT THE ADOPTED PLAN. WE PERSONALLY PARTICIPATED IN THE PLAN AND VOTED TO KEEP STRICTLY SF THREE, NOTHING HIGHER OR NOTHING IN SF ZONING. WE ASKED THAT THE OFF THAT AUSTIN PLANNING COMMISSION AND AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL REPRESENT A RESPECT, THE ADOPTED MONTOPOLIS PLAN AFTER EMERGENCE SUCCESSFUL GUESTS OF FORCES OR REFRESHES DEVELOP AT THE MONTOPOLIS NICO SCREW IN 2018. THEN MY TOP IS COMMUNITY IS ONCE AGAIN, BEING BESIEGED BY PROFITS, THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS WERE LITTLE TO NO REGARD FOR THE COMMUNITY'S FRAGILE NATURAL AND CULTURE ENVIRONMENT, OR IT'S A CHRONIC HISTORY. MY TOP IS ALSO KNOWN AS POVERTY ISLAND HAS A PER CAPITA INCOME OF 16,200 HUNDRED AND $26 AND MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME OF 31,875. AND YOUR POVERTY RATE OF 33%, ACCORDING TO THE 28TH, UH, AMERICAN COMMUNITY SERVICE DATA POVERTY RATE, 33% ACCORDINGLY, WE GUARD OUR EXISTENCE PROPERTY JEALOUSY, AND WE ARE COMMUNITY FAMILIES. THE AUSTIN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION HAS DECLARED GENTEFICATION TO BE A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION. WE CALL UPON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT [01:05:01] THIS GENTRIFYING ZONING IN THE NAME OF RACIAL JUSTICE AND RECONCILIATION MONTOPOLIS HAS TOO MUCH HISTORY AND CULTURE TO BE LIFESTYLE BY THE FORCES OF IN SCRUPULOUS REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS FASHION. THE AND BEST USE OF OUR LAND IS PROTECTION AND NOT SPECULATION. AND I TELL YOU THAT ALL THE UNITS CURRENTLY BEING BUILT IN THE MONTOPOLIS ARE SELLING FROM $380,000 AND ABOVE. SO THIS WILL IMPACT THE LOW-INCOME, THE WORKING POOR. THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS. ALL OF THAT WOULD BE AN IMPACT. AND I ASKED YOU NOT TO LISTEN TO THE DEVELOPERS, MISREPRESENTATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY WORKED ON THE PLAN AND GOT IT ADOPT THE ACID, YOU RESPECT THAT WE HAVE THE VALID PETITION AGAINST THESE PROPERTIES, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER SAY. THEY'RE JUST PARACHUTING INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND JUST GOBBLING UP THE PROPERTIES FOR A PROFIT MAKING, NOT THINKING ABOUT THEM ON TOP OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO WE ASK THAT YOU RESPECT OUR VALID PETITIONS AND THAT YOU RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN PROCESS. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU, MISS SAMANTHA. UM, IF YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE COULD MAKE SURE TO STAY ON THE LINE, UM, UH, AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED WITH YOUR COMMENTS, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS FROM SOME COMMISSIONERS. UM, NEXT UP I HAVE PETER SIMON. PETER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. AND, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON ALL THREE ITEMS AND TAKE SIX MINUTES OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THEM INDIVIDUALLY FOR THREE MINUTES EACH? YES. PLEASE. I'LL TAKE THE SIX MINUTES. I'M SORRY. YOU SAID YOU'LL TAKE THE SIX. YES, PLEASE. OKAY, GREAT. GO AHEAD. OKAY. WELL, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS PETERSON AND I, I LIVE WITH MY PARTNER AND OUR BABY I'M KIM STREET, A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE PROPERTIES. IN QUESTION TONIGHT, I'M CALLING INTO OPPOSING ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO SUPPORT MY NEIGHBORS AND THE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO ALSO STRONGLY OPPOSE THESE RESILIENT MEASURES. MONTOPOLIS IS MOSTLY BLACK AND MINORITY FAMILY OWNED NEIGHBORHOOD FIGHTING TO PROTECT ITS GREEN SPACES. AND IT'S SF THREE ZONING AND IT'S AGREED UPON NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN OPPOSING THESE CHANGES. THERE ARE CURRENTLY VALID PETITIONS AGAINST ALL OF THEM. UM, MONTOPOLIS HAS BEEN CITED IN UPROOTED AUSTIN STUDY AS ONE OF AUSTIN'S MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS TO DISPLACEMENT AND GENTRIFICATION. UM, UPLOAD RECOMMEND SEVEN LESSONS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN DISPLACEMENT. NUMBER ONE IS TO PUT COMMUNITY VOICES AT THE CENTER AND ENSURE VULNERABLE RESIDENTS HAVE A MEANINGFUL ROLE IN IDENTIFYING NEEDS. PRIORITIZING THE USE. UM, I'M ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE HELP FIGHT RACIAL INEQUALITY AND POTENTIALLY, UM, IRREVERSIBLE HARM TO OUR NEIGHBORS BY LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITIES LEADERS WHO CONTINUE TO SPEAK CLEARLY AGAINST THESE ENTITLEMENTS AND AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGES, AS WELL AS AGAINST AUSTIN'S HISTORY OF RACIAL INEQUITY AND LAND USE, THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN ALREADY ALLOWS FOR MORE DENSITY COME HERE, COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY, AND MIXED USE THAN ANY OTHER PART OF AUSTIN. AND THERE ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED AREAS FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE'S NO NEED TO DESTROY THE EXISTING FF THREE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. WOULDN'T, THERE'S PLENTY OF, UM, APPROPRIATELY DESIGNATED AREAS THAT HAVE YET TO BE DEVELOPED. UM, THE DEVELOPERS ARGUE GIVING THEM THESE ENTITLEMENTS SOMEHOW MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE. UM, I THINK THIS IS AN EXTREMELY LIMITED VIEW THAT COMPLETELY DISCOUNTS ALL THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS THAT WILL OCCUR, UH, TO THE ECOLOGY AND THE SURROUNDING PARKS TO THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO HISTORY AND, UM, AS SUSANNA HIGHLIGHTED TO THE COST AND SORT OF A DISPLACEMENT OF THE CURRENT, UM, UH, UH, DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, WE KNOW HE'S, UH, DEVELOPMENTS WON'T BE AFFORDABLE FOR THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR ATTRACT MORE DIVERSITY IN ANY WAY. AND THE DEVELOPERS MAKE NO ENFORCEABLE PROMISE TO DO SO. THESE CHANGES WOULD ONLY OVERCROWD OUR PEACEFULLY, OUR PEACEFUL RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH CARS AND ADD MORE PAVEMENT AND FLOODING THROUGH ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE PRESERVE AND THE COLORADO RIVER ADDING THIS MUCH DENSITY WILL ACCELERATE GENTRIFICATION AND RAPIDLY DILUTE DIVERSITY IN THIS IMPORTANT AND VULNERABLE PART OF TOWN. THIS CITY'S OWN STATISTICS SHOW US HOW THIS HAS HAPPENED ALREADY THROUGH RAINY HOLLY AND THE REST OF EAST AUSTIN. JUST ADDS GAS COMING INTO THE FIRE. OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE BUILT INTO THEIR PLAN ALREADY AND ALLOWANCE FOR SO THAT A CURRENT CULTURE OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND GROW WELL INTO THE FUTURE. [01:10:01] WE KNOW THAT THIS GROWTH IS INEVITABLE, BUT IT CAN BE DONE THOUGHTFULLY AND DELIBERATELY. AND THAT'S WHY ON MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN HAS ALLOWED FOR SPECIAL INFO INFILL OPTIONS. UM, SUCH AS , WHICH I THINK RON'S OFFICE ALREADY MENTIONED. THESE ARE WELCOME COMPROMISES, AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACE TO ADDRESS QUESTIONS OF DENSITY. UM, WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEND A MESSAGE TO DEVELOPERS. THEY CAN USE THE ALREADY ALLOWED FOR IT INTO OPTIONS TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, AND THEY WON'T HAVE ANY RESISTANCE TO THAT. ANYWAY, I THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS FOR HEARING WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. MAKE SURE TO STAY ON THE LINE IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS. UM, IF YOU'RE ABLE, UH, DANIEL HARP, ARE YOU IN THE LINE? YES, I'M ON THE LINE. GREAT. AND, UM, I JUST HAVE YOU DOWN FOR B ONE, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF THEM OR JUST THIS CASE? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ALL OF THEM, UH, COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE A SPECIAL INTEREST IN THIS CASE. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND GRANT YOU THE FULL EXPANDED SIX MINUTES THERE. AND THEN, UM, JUST AS A HEADS UP JONATHAN DAVIDSON AND THEN MICHELLE T YOU WERE ON DECK. UM, GO AHEAD. UH, MR. HART. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO MY NAME IS DANIEL HARP. I ACTUALLY OWN 62 OH SIX CLOVIS STREET. SO THAT'S THE ADJACENT LOT TO 62 OH EIGHT CLOVIS FREE. IN FACT, WE SHARE THE SAME FLAG AND I DO HAVE A JOINT USE ACCESS EASEMENT OVER THE, UH, THE FLAG THAT THROWER DESIGNS IS PROPOSING TO USE. SO I WAS WITH YOU GUYS WHEN YOU APPROVED FOR FOA CHEMISTRY AND I, AND I SPOKE AGAINST THAT PROPERTY AND A LOT OF US WERE DEFINITELY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE MOVED TO CONDOS ON KIM STREET, BUT I'VE HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND I TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF INCREASING DENSITY AND INCREASING THE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES. WHAT I PRIMARILY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN MY TIME HERE IS THAT THE VAST DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND FIVE A WEEK KEMP STREET. UH, SO, SO ONE THING IN THE BACKGROUND, IF YOU GUYS COULD BRING UP THE TRANSPORTATION AND ASM PIECE SLIDE THAT THE THROWER DESIGNS HAD SENT TO YOU GUYS, I WANTED TO POINT SOMETHING OUT THERE. UM, AND IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, WELL, WHILE THAT'S GOING ON, UM, THE STAFF AT A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THEY, I THINK DON'T ACTUALLY APPLY. SO, UM, THE, FIRST OF ALL, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO THE NORTH OF, UH, THE PROPOSED LAND AT CLOVIS IN MONTOPOLIS. AND IN FACT THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY DOESN'T EXIST. SO THERE IS A SMALL POCKET OF COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT IT HAS A RESIDENTIAL OVERLAY. UH, AND MR. DAVIDSON CAN I THINK, SPEAK TO THIS A MORE COGENTLY THAN, THAN MYSELF, BUT, UM, THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BEING PLANNED THERE. SO, SO THE TRUTH IS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS, IS 360 DEGREES SURROUNDED BY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON MY OWN. UM, I'M BUILDING A MODEST 1700 SQUARE FOOT, UH, RESIDENCE, VERY SMALL WITH A A THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ADU THAT I'M HOPING TO RENT OUT, UH, AT A MODEST COST. OKAY. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE ABOUT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION HERE THAT I FIND PROBLEMATIC IS THAT THE WHOLE KEY TO, UM, GRANTING ASSETS SIX IN REGIONS THAT GO FROM SF THREE TO COMMERCIAL IS THAT THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE ACCESS TO OTHER THAN MINOR STREETS. THAT VIDEO HAS SOME LAG HERE, BUT IF YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO SEE THAT TRANSPORTATION AND ASM PIECE, A SNP SLIDE THAT SLIVER OF MONTOPOLIS DRIVE TO THE EAST OF THE CLOVIS AND KEMP PARCEL IS LITERALLY AS BIG AS A SIDEWALK. I DID ACTUALLY JUMP ACROSS IT. UH, THE IDEA OF PUTTING 16 PLUS UNITS INTO THIS SMALL PARCEL OF LAND IS GOING TO BE AN ABSOLUTE TRAFFIC DISASTER. ADDITIONALLY, THE ONLY TO CLOVIS STREET, WHICH I COULD PROBABLY JUMP ACROSS IN TWO BOUNDS IS THROUGH THE FLAG THAT GOES TO MY OWN PERSONAL RESIDENCE. AND THERE'S BEEN NO PROPOSAL TO ME OR ANYONE ELSE TO UTILIZE THAT FLAG. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE THE PROBLEMS I SAW WITH THE RECOMMENDATION MOVING ON WITH MY LIMITED TIME TO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS AND THE FIVE OH EIGHT, UH, CAMP PROPOSAL. SO IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT ONE, WHEN WE WENT TO SFC THERE, THEY WERE PROPOSING A PUBLIC GREEN SPACE WITH A PUBLIC OVERLOOK THAT WAS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AWESOME. ADDITIONALLY, THEY PROMISED A BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING. SO UNFORTUNATELY THIS PROPOSAL HAS NONE OF THOSE FEATURES. IT HAS A LARGE PRIVATE PARKING LOT. UH, AND I, I TALKED TO THOR DESIGNS TODAY AND I'M SAD TO SAY THAT THEY, THEY TOLD ME THAT THE OWNER [01:15:01] CONSIDERED A BELOW MARKET HOUSING UNIT, AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY LET THEM SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THERE WHAT THEY COMMUNICATED TO ME TODAY, IT WAS, UH, THAT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE GIVEN, UH, THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT. I FIND THAT A LITTLE BIT HARDER, BELIEVE THAT WITH 16 PLUS UNITS, THEY'RE UNABLE TO OFFER ONE BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING. AND I SUGGEST TO EVERYONE THAT IF SF SIX IS A POSSIBILITY ON THIS LAMP, WE SHOULD AT LEAST CHECK IT BACK AND TOLD HER THEY'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO OFFER SOME BELOW MARKET RATE HOUSING. OKAY. WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TIMELESS THAT I'VE GOTTEN HERE, THERE'S, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ERRORS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN THE DEVELOPER'S PRESENTATION. SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NOT SIX UNITS IN ANY SUBDIVISION SOUTH OF 200 MONTOPOLIS. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE MY FAMILY ORIGINALLY OWNED EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY. THAT'S A ADDRESS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CLOVIS. AND WE SOLD THEM TO PEOPLE WHO WE KNOW BY FIRST NAMES FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. THERE, THERE IS ONE LOT THAT, UH, GOT SUBDIVIDED, SORRY, I GOT IT. UH, FOUR UNITS ON IT, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY SIX UNITS COMPLEX. OKAY. THE BIGGER AREA. BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT IN THE PROPOSAL IS THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE IN DENSITY BY MOVING FROM SS THREE TO SF SIX. OKAY. WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH A PROPOSAL WHERE THERE ARE CONCEIVABLY 14 UNITS SF THREE, UH, POST SUBDIVISION AND ONLY 16 ON SF SIX. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL FOR SSX, THEY'VE LEFT 62, EIGHT CLOVIS STREET COMPLETELY EMPTY. SO IN FACT, THEY CAN PUT AT LEAST TWO MORE UNITS, THEY'RE BRINGING IT TO A TOTAL OF 18 UNITS. WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON THAT LAND IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. UH, AND WHEN I SOLD 62 EIGHT CLOVIS, I HAD ASPIRED THAT THERE WOULD EVENTUALLY BE TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. SO IN FACT, THE INCREASE IN DENSITY HERE IS FROM A ONE HOME TO 18 HOMES. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW CATASTROPHIC THIS IS GOING TO BE TO SEE A STATICS AND EQUITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND THEN JUST HOW CONTRARY TO THE ENTIRE CHARACTER OF MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SUSANNA HAS SPOKE TO MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I EVER COULD. UH, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, JONATHAN DAVIDSON HALL? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO JUST THIS CASE OR TO ALL THREE CASES I CAN SPEAK TO ALL THREE? I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST MORE TIME EFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE. OKAY, GREAT. WHAT I FIRST WANTED TO SAY WAS IN REACTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT, THE THROWER DESIGN HAD SPOKEN TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S A CONDO ARRANGEMENT AND IT IS A DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S TWO LOTS, AND IT'S JUST A HOUSE AND AN ADU ON EACH OF THOSE LOTS OF DIFFERENT CONDO, TWO LOTS TOGETHER SO THAT THEY COULD GET AROUND A MAGNOLIA TREE AND HAVE A SHARED ACCESS FOR ALL FOUR HOUSES. SO IT REALLY IS NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING LIKE SF ZONING, IT'S ACTUALLY SF THE REZONING SPECIFICALLY. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT WITH REGARDS TO 200 MONTOPOLIS, UM, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS OWNED IT FOR A FEW YEARS AND HE LIVES IN, HE LIVES ON THE EAST SIDE, IN THE, YOU KNOW, VERY GENTRIFIED HOLLY STREET AREA. HE'S NEVER BEEN HERE. I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM SET FOOT HERE. HE EVICTED THE TENANTS. THE TWO HOUSES ARE RUN DOWN, BUT THEY HAD, THEY WERE LOW RENT HOUSES PER YEARS AND YEARS. AND THOSE HOUSES STILL FIT ABANDONED BECAUSE HE EVICTED THE TENANTS. LAST YEAR. THEY'RE OVERGROWN GRASS IS OVERGROWN. THE RECYCLING AND TRASH BINS ARE STILL OUTSIDE. TIPPED OVER THE MAILBOXES ARE GATHERING MAIL THAT'S ROTTING IN THE SUN. AND IT'S JUST ABSURD. HOW SOMEONE WHO'S PURPORTING TO DO RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST WOULD NEVER SHOW THEIR FACE HAS NO CARE FOR THE PROPERTY WHATSOEVER, EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD WALK HERE IN 25 MINUTES. SO THAT'S JUST ONE POINT. UM, ALSO WITH REGARDS TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE UP ZONING SUGGEST TRANSITIONING FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO A MORE DENSE AREA. AND IT REALLY IS, AND THEY SORT OF MENTIONED IT. IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT IT IS TRANSITIONING TO A LESS DENSE AREA CAUSE IT'S GOING TO PARKLAND. SO I DON'T SEE WHY IT SHOULD GO AND THEN PARKLAND. IT JUST DOESN'T REALLY MAKE ANY SENSE. UH, MONTOPOLIS PEOPLE HAD MENTIONED AS A DEAD END RIGHT THERE, AND WITH THAT MANY HOUSES, 72 MORE CAR TRIPS COMING AROUND ONE LITTLE CORNER SEEMS PRETTY ABSURD. UH, ALSO THE HOA MANAGEMENT IN THESE ASSETS DEVELOPMENT IS ABSURDLY UNRELIABLE, UM, NEGLIGENT SOMETIME THEY CAN'T MANAGE GETTING [01:20:01] THE GRASS CUT. THEY CAN'T MANAGE ANY OF THE BASIC THING. I THINK THAT SF IN THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR WOULD ACTUALLY BE, UM, IT WOULD THE TOWNHOUSES THAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING AND THE SEMI DETACHED FROM THE DETACHED HOUSING, IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD, IT WOULD LOOK THAT FRANKLY, ARCHITECTURALLY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LOT OF VARIETY THERE'S HOUSES DOWN THE STREET THAT WERE BUILT IN THE NINETIES, THE, UH, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. AND THERE HAS BUILT VERY CHEAPLY AND HAVE VERY LOW INCOME RESIDENTS, BUT THEY'RE STILL LIVING HERE 25 YEARS LATER BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN THAT CHANCE AT A LITTLE BIT OF INDIVIDUALISM AND A LITTLE BIT OF MODESTY AND DESIGN. AND I JUST, I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION THAT HIGH HIGH END FINISHES IN A 1200 SQUARE FOOT. TOWNHOUSE DOES NOT MEAN IT'S A CHEAP HOUSE. IT MEANS THAT IT'S AN EXPENSIVE HOUSE. IT'S ONLY SUITABLE FOR A COUPLE AND IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR A FAMILY AT ALL. AND THERE'S NO SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO CALL THEIR OWN IN THEIR BACKYARD. THERE'S NO BACKYARD. SO THERE'S A PARKING LOT ON ONE SIDE AND THEN A DETENTION POND ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO, UM, ALSO THROWERS UNCLEAR ON, I THINK MR. HARP SPOKE TO THIS, THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS, UM, IF IT'S 16 HOUSES, IS IT 18 HOUSES? IS IT 20? WE'VE HEARD SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND REALLY NO SQUARE ANSWER ON IT. UH, ALSO THE CLOVIS LOT HAS NOTHING DRAWN. LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? I MEAN, THE LAST TIME THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET THE ADDRESS RIGHT ON THAT. SO WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE REZONING, IF THERE'S NO PROPOSAL FOR WHAT'S BEING REZONED ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT WHEN CLOVIS, UM, I THINK THAT THIS I'M SORRY, AM I RUNNING OUT OF TIME? UM, I GUESS IT JUST LIKE, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE THROWER PROPOSAL IS THROWN TOGETHER. IT DOES NOT SAY HAVE ANY REALLY SPEAK TO ANY SPECIFICS OF THE PROJECT, NONE AT ALL ON ONE SLOT, THE AND CLOVIS SLOT. I DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REZONED TO SFX. IT'S A CORNER LOT. YOU HAVE ACCESS FROM BOTH SIDES THAT COULD BE SUBDIVIDED VERY EASILY. IT WOULD BE A SIMPLE GEOMETRY PROBLEM TO SUBDIVIDE THAT LOT INTO SF SMALLER SF THREE LOTS. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY STRING OF POINTS. I'LL, I'LL LET SOME OTHER PEOPLE PASS ON THE MIC TO THE NEXT PERSON, BUT I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. GREAT. THANK YOU. MAKE SURE TO STAY ON FOR THIS CASE IN THE ONES FALLING IN CASE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS. IF YOU WERE ABLE TO, UH, MICHELLE SHELTIE STAR SIX ON MUTE HERE. HI. HI, MICHELLE. I'M ARE YOU WISHING TO SPEAK ON JUST THIS CASE OR ALL THREE CASES? I CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY, GREAT. UM, SO YOU ORIGINALLY HAVE A ONE MINUTE, SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DOUBLE THAT TO TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT. GO AHEAD. SO I LIVE HERE AT 62 18 CLOVIS STREET AND THAT'S DIRECTLY BEHIND THE HOUSE, THE HOUSES ON 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM MY HOUSE AS CHEM CLUB AS PROPERTY. SO I'M BASICALLY SURROUNDED BY THESE PROPOSALS. I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING PROPOSAL FOR 200 MONTH TOPPLES ROAD. I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STREET AND HOW IT LOOKS HERE. SO THE ADDRESS IS OFFICIALLY 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. I JUST WANT TO DESCRIBE BETTER TO YOU. THE LOCATION OF 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A DOG LEG OFF OF MONTOPOLIS. DRIVE IT DEAD ENDS HERE AND RUNS ADJACENT TO MONTOPOLIS AT THE END OF THIS DRIVE. THERE'S THE TRAIL, WHICH HAS THE ENTRANCE TO THE ROY GRID AT OAK PARK. UM, IT'S BASICALLY ONLY A SETBACK AWAY FROM THE TRAIL. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, A FEW MORE YARDS PAST THAT TRAIL IS THE PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE TO THE MEN'S TOPLESS BRIDGE. THE PROPOSED REZONING OF 200 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE WOULD ALLOW 18 TOWNHOUSES TO BE BUILT ON A DEAD END STREET ON A PROPERTY THAT LITERALLY ABUTS THE TRAIL AND PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE. THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE WAY OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. ALSO THE ONE WAY OUT AT THE CORNER OF CLOVIS AND THE DOGLEG ALLOWS ONLY FOR A RIGHT TURN ONTO MONTOPOLIS ROAD, PROPER, [01:25:02] EXCUSE ME, BUT DEVELOPER'S LETTER DESCRIBES NEW DRIVE, ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO DESCRIPTION OF THESE NEW DRIVES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THAT MEANS POSSIBLY 36 CARS ENTERING AND EXITING OUT OF THE DOGLEG STREET, WHICH ONLY TURNS ONE WAY. SO I THINK THAT THERE ALSO MAY BE A PROPOSAL TO CUT THROUGH THIS FLAG LOT THAT JONATHAN SPOKE TO. BUT LASTLY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION FOR THE MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS. THE CURRENT SF THREE ZONING WAS PUT INTO PLACE, NOT THAT MANY YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY. WHY DO WE HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN AND AGAIN? SORRY. SORRY. YOU'RE JUST OVER TIME. SO FINAL THOUGHT. OH, I'M OVER TIME. OH NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, KATE BARROW, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE SO I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. HI, THIS IS KATE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE OR ALL THREE? UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON ALL THREE CASES, PLEASE. WE'LL DOUBLE YOUR TIME TO TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO MY NAME IS KATE BARROW AND MY ADDRESS IS TWO OH FOUR B MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. I AM AGAINST THE UP-ZONING OF THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTIES BEING DISCUSSED TODAY. I'M OPPOSED TO THE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WILL HAVE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M AGAINST THE LACK OF LOW INCOME HOUSING. THESE DEVELOPMENTS OFFER AND HOW WILL DISPLACE DIVERSE POPULATION. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE POINT MADE REGARDING HOA MAINTAINING PROPERTIES IN A ROAD. I LIVE IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, JUST SOUTH OF 200 MONTOPOLIS CONSISTING OF FOUR UNITS WITH AN HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY. OUR HOA MANAGEMENT COMPANY CAN BARELY MAINTAIN OUR LAWN SURFACE. I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME IMAGINING AN HOA PROPERLY MANAGING 16 PLUS UNITS AND A ROAD. AND FINALLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS. SAFETY ACCESS STICKS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ONLY HAS ONE STREET TO ENTER AND EXIT. I'M A DOCTOR OF PHYSICAL THERAPY AT A NEUROLOGICAL HOSPITAL. AND MY HUSBAND IS A CRITICAL CARE NURSE IN THE ICU. EVERY DAY, WE TREAT PATIENTS WITH SKIING, MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS AND AUTO VERSUS PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND THE RESULTING CONSEQUENCES. ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT LIVING IN THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS VISITING WITH MY NEIGHBORS WHILE WE'RE OUT WALKING WITH OUR FAMILIES IN THE EVENINGS, I WANT TO PROTECT OUR SAFETY AND THAT'S WHY I'M AGAINST UPZONING TO US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. UH, DO WE HAVE DAVID KING ON THE LINE? DAVID KING? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE INDIVIDUALLY OR ALL THREE AT ONCE? ALL THREE CHAIR. OKAY. WELL, DOUBLE YOUR TIME TO TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS UPROOTED REPORT INDICATES THAT THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXPERIENCING DYNAMIC GENTRIFICATION WITH SIGNIFICANT DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE AND THE VULNERABILITY OF THE MOST VULNERABLE FAMILIES OF COLOR IN SMALL COMMUNITY BASED BUSINESSES IN MONTOPOLIS ARE BEING DISPLACED AND REPLACED PRIMARILY BY HIGHER INCOME, WHITE FAMILIES AND HIGH END BUSINESSES, GENTRIFICATION AND INVOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ARE IMMORAL AND RACIST. THE UPROOTED REPORT INDICATES THAT ABSORBING FACILITATES GENTRIFICATION AND INVOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT OF LOW INCOME FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES IN EAST AUSTIN. IT SUGGESTS THAT DOWN ZONING COULD HELP REDUCE GENTRIFICATION DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES IN EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS. IF APPROVED THE REQUEST IS ABOUT ZONINGS FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY WILL INCREASE GENTRIFICATION AND INVOLUNTARY DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES ON LOW INCOME FAMILIES, FAMILIES OF COLOR IN SMALL BUSINESSES IN MONTOPOLIS AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES OF ZONING FOR THESE THREE PROPERTIES IN MONTOPOLIS, ONE OF THE MOST GENTRIFIED NEIGHBORHOODS IN EAST AUSTIN, IT WILL SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO GENTRIFY EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS UNABATED. PLEASE DO NOT PERPETUATE GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT IN EAST AUSTIN. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THE THREE UP ZONING REQUESTS IN MONTOPOLIS. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY COMMENTS AND FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. I'M MEGAN. MEISENBACH DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE NEXT WILL BE ELIAS MEGAN. MEISENBACH YES, THIS IS MEGAN. HI, MEGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE OR ALL THREE [01:30:01] ALL AT ONCE. I THINK I'LL JUST SPEAK ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. SO THIS PROPERTY HAS A VERY FIRM VALID PETITION, AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SO CLOSE AND SO IMPORTANT AND HAS SO MANY FAMILIES WHERE THESE UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED WILL NOT, UM, MAKE IT SO THAT FAMILIES WANT TO LIVE THERE. IT WILL BE TOO EXPENSIVE AND IT WILL UPSET THE DELICATE BALANCE OF MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ALREADY FRAGILE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME AND FOR YOUR MEETING AND YOUR SERVICE. GREAT. THANK YOU, MS. BISON BUCK, A SNOWY ELIAS ON THE LINE. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI. YES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON JUST THIS CASE OR ALL THREE AT ONCE AND THEN THE OTHER SEPARATELY. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. OKAY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO SPEAK. UH, I GOING TO BEGIN BY ASKING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE AGAIN, OWNING THIS PROPERTY. UH, OUR COMMUNITY IS THAT COMMUNITY OF BLACK AND BROWN WORKING FAMILIES, AND WE DID NOT NEED MORE HIGH PRICED CONDOS OR TOWNHOMES. WE NEED HOMES THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO OUR WORKING CLASS RESIDENTS. WE WANT, AND WE NEED FAMILY HOMES FOR OUR FAMILIES SO THAT OUR FAMILIES CAN CONTINUE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY IN WHICH WE WERE BORN AND RAISED. AND A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS WERE BORN AND RAISED IN THE COMMUNITY AND CAN TRACE THEIR ANCESTORS BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THE BLACK FAMILIES THAT SETTLED THE FRIEDMAN COLONY HERE, OR THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME LATER AND FOUND A VIBRANT, STRONG, AND AFFORDABLE COMMUNITY IN WHICH TO LIVE. AND ALSO WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO ARE THE MOST EFFECTED SHOULD HAVE THE STRONGEST VOICE IN THESE MATTERS. OUR COMMUNITY IS STRONGLY POSTED. WE SONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, WE WOULD LIKE TO INSTEAD BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THESE TYPES OF PROPERTY AND BUILD MY COMMUNITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. AND WE WANT YOU TO BE AN ALLY IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST GENTRIFICATION, UH, BE SOMEBODY THAT IS WILLING TO STAND UP FOR A BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY LIKE OURS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. LEWIS. OKAY. UM, AND THEN LET'S GO BACK AND, UM, VICTORIA HUSSEY, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE STILL? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. UM, AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. OKAY. UM, I'M JUST, CAN, CAN WE PAUSE MY TIME FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I JUST LIKE TO ASK, UM, ANDREW OR SOMEONE WHO COULD, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT JUST CAME IN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY FOR RYAN AND I TO EITHER SPLIT THE REBUTTAL OR IF WE CAN EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES TO REBUTTAL. RIGHT. SO, UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO CHOOSE, UH, TO DO WITH, AS YOU LIKE RIGHT NOW. UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU WILL GET TO, UM, INTRODUCE AND, AND CLOSE FOR EACH OF YOUR TWO FOLLOWING CASES. UM, AND, UH, ANYONE WHO, UM, UH, ONLY SPOKE ON ONE OF THE CASES CAN, CAN ALSO SPEAK AGAINST THOSE CASES. UM, UH, BECAUSE THEY SIGNED UP AND THEY'RE POSTED, I, I CAN'T FORBID ANYONE FROM IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED TO SPEAK UP AND THOSE TWO CASES THAT FOLLOW. UM, BUT, UH, WE DID GIVE FOLKS EXTRA TIME CAUSE THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ALL AT ONCE. SO THAT'S THE SITUATION WE'RE IN. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF RULE AND A LITTLE BIT OF CUSTOMS. SO, UM, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. UM, SO I'M GOING TO SPLIT THE TIME WITH RON RIGHT NOW. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT ATTEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. NOT, NOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO, BUT BECAUSE OF HEALTH CONCERNS DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WOW, I DON'T NEED TO JUSTIFY, UH, I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE A SPOUSE AND A CHILD THAT ARE IMMUNOCOMPROMISED AND I WOULD APPRECIATE RESPECT FOR MY DECISION TO PUT MY FAMILY FIRST. UM, I DID NOT ATTEND BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S SAFE. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY, UM, ALSO I WANTED TO JUST NOTE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMS TO BE A MISCONCEPTION THAT DEVELOPMENT WITH EXISTING ZONING ENTITLEMENTS OF WILL PROVIDE HOMES THAT ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, BUT THE MARKET IS NOT GOING TO LET THAT HAPPEN. UM, EVEN IF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT SOLD FOR A PARTICULAR PRICE AND IF THEY ARE, IF THEY ARE DIVIDED AND, AND BUILT WITH , THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE LARGER. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. UM, ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM LANDOWNERS [01:35:01] HAVE DECIDED TO SELL THEIR LAND. AND IN SOME CASES, I WONDER IF THIS IS THEIR TICKET TO BETTER THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION. THIS LAND MAY HAVE BEEN PASSED DOWN FROM ERRORS. UM, AND IT MAY BE THE ONLY INHERITANCE THAT SOME OF THESE FAMILIES HAVE. AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS FOR SO MUCH CHANGE SO QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT. THERE ARE WE AS A CITY PREPARED TO TELL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELL THEIR LAND, UM, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO GAIN FINANCIAL FREEDOM FROM INHERITANCE THAT HAS BEEN IN THEIR FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT IN MY LAB, WE ARE NOT DISPLACING ANYONE. THERE'S NO ONE ON ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT IS BEING KICKED OFF AND I'LL PASS IT OVER TO RON. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION PRACTITIONER CIDER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEEGER. ALL IN FAVOR. I'M SORRY. WERE THEY GOING TO SPLIT THAT OVER BUTLER? I'M SORRY. UH, MR. TARARA DID YOU WANT TO, UM, SPEAK UP HERE? ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? YES. YES. I DID WANT TO JUST CLARIFY A FEW OF THE ITEMS, PLEASE. AGAIN, RON THROWER REPRESENTING THE LAND OWNER, THE PROPERTY IS ONLY GOING TO BE 16 UNITS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY MORE THAN THAT. YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE SIDE AREA AND JUST DIVIDE IT BY THE 3,500 SQUARE FEET THAT YOU NEED FOR EACH UNIT. IT COMES TO 16 UNITS, UH, THE FLAG LOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THERE. OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA HONOR IT. IT IS WHAT IT IS. CAN DEFINITELY MAINTAIN PROPERTIES. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE FRUSTRATING, THESE ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE COMING ABOUT, AND HERE WE WERE BEING ACCUSED OF GENTRIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE COMING CLOSER TO PROVIDING MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING, UH, COMPARED TO EXACTLY WHAT'S NEXT DOOR. LOOK AT THE 500, 600, $700,000 HOUSES THAT ARE NEXT DOOR. THAT'S THE GENTRIFICATION THAT'S OCCURRING. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY IF SFD STAYS IN PLACE. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT UNDER A THREATENING MANNER IN ANY WAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT THE SHEER FACTS, 14 UNITS OR 16 UNITS. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. THANK YOU. I THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING MOVED BY COMMISSIONER CIDERS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY. ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT. UM, WE'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP WITH A ROUND ROBIN. UM, I'D LIKE TO, TO TAKE THE FIRST SPOT JUST SO I CAN CLEAR SOME THINGS UP HERE AT THE VERY TOP. UH, SUZANNE ALONZO, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE WITH THIS? YES, I'M STILL ON LINE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP BECAUSE I, UH, WAS JUST LOOKING AT YOUR, UM, AT THE HISTORY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND THE, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. AND I KNOW THAT THE METROPOLIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED A LONG TIME AGO, UH, ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW. AND, AND, UM, THE SITUATION IS VERY DIFFERENT THERE. UH, UH, YOU GUYS MAY HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO SPUR REVITALIZATION BACK THEN, AND NOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MAYBE MORE ABOUT GENTRIFICATION PROTECTION AND DISPLACEMENT PROTECTION, BUT, UM, I, I COULDN'T FIND ANY AMENDMENTS THAT, UH, AMENDED THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR, UH, FOR ALL THREE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT. AND, UM, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, UH, SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT, UM, THE INFILL TOOLS OF, OF SMALL LAW, AMNESTY COLLEGE LAW, URBAN HOUSE, UM, AND, UH, AND EVEN, UH, HAS A, LISTED AS A USE. AND THEN ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, ON PAGE, UM, 13, UH, UNDER, I GUESS, ACTION FOR, UM, IT SAYS, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES ARE RECOMMENDED ON THE REMAINING UNDEVELOPED LAND. UM, RESIDENTIAL USES MAY INCLUDE SMART GROWTH, INFILL OPTIONS AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING APPROPRIATE. RESIDENTIAL ZONING DESIGNATIONS MAY INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ZONING OPTIONS, SMALL LAW, AMNESTY COLLEGE LAW, INFILL, URBAN HOME, LOT INFILLS SECONDARY APARTMENT AND . AND SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS ADOPTED. I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FACING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAN IT WAS BACK IN 2001. UM, BUT, UH, AT LEAST BACK IN 2001, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN SEEMS TO PRETTY EXPLICITLY SAY THAT SF SIX IS A, A, IS A RECOMMENDED USE FOR THE, FOR ALL OF THE SINGLE FAMILY AREAS, BECAUSE ON THE FLUM, UH, THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENTIATION [01:40:01] BETWEEN, UM, SF THREE OR OTHER USES. IT'S JUST LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY. UM, CAN, CAN CLEAN THAT UP OR MAYBE THE CONTEXT OF, OF WHAT YOU WERE GOING THROUGH WHEN YOU WROTE THE PLAN. ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THAT OUR PLAN WASN'T BEING TREATED LIKE PLANTS IN WEST AUSTIN. SO WE WERE REALLY BEING THREATENED AND THINGS WERE WRITTEN THAT WE REALLY WERE IN AGREEMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTENDING, WHEN YOU SEE THE ATTENDANCE LIST, YOU SEE THAT WE HAD A LOT OF WHITE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND A PREDOMINANTLY 90 AT THAT TIME, PROBABLY 90% PEOPLE OF COLOR COMMUNITY. AND IT WAS A BIG FIGHT. I DON'T DON'T THINK IT WAS EASY BECAUSE NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE TO FIGHT, UM, A LOT OF THE WHITE PEOPLE THAT WERE LIVING ON THE PERIPHERY, BUT ALSO THE FINDING STAFF ITSELF, BECAUSE HIGH DENSITY BEING PUSHED IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT WE'LL TAKE ON, IF WE'RE BEING FORCED TO TAKE ON HIGH DENSITY, LET'S TAKE IT TO, UM, SOUTH OF RIVERSIDE AND LEAVE THE HEART I'M ON TOP OF SINGLE FAMILY. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT SINGLE FAMILY, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT SF THREE SINGLE FAMILY, EVEN THOUGH THEY ALLOWED THE OTHER ONE DURING THIS PROCESS, IF YOU REMEMBER, MY LIFE AMNESTY WAS BEING USED AGAINST US. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CORRECTED THE SMALL LAND AMNESTY, CAUSE WHAT THEY WERE DOING WERE COMING IN AND SAYING, WELL, THIS IS MY LOT. AND THEY WERE BUILDING A LOT OF HOUSES ON THE LOT AS A SMALL AMNESTY WHEN SMALL LAND UNDER SEA DIDN'T MEAN THAT IT MEANT A LOT WITH TOO SMALL IN ORDER TO BUILD, BUT THEY WERE USING THAT IN ORDER TO BUILD MORE HOUSES. SO THAT'S WHY I SAID THERE'S ALWAYS A MISINTERPRETATION OF THE PLANT, DEPENDING ON IS LIKE THE LAW. WHO'S INTERPRETING THE LAW, WHO'S READING IT, AND THIS IS THE SAME THING WITH OUR PLANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST IN THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME FOR THIS QUESTION, UM, I THINK EVERYONE WHO'S ON THE LIST IS A, IS A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, EXPECT EXCEPT ONE SPEAKER DAVID KING, DAVID KING. ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE, MR. KING? YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US. YEAH, I THINK HE MAY HAVE DROPPED OFF. ALRIGHT. ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO HAVE, WHO HAVE QUESTIONS PREFERABLY OR COMMENTS ARE ALLOWED DURING THIS TIME? UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, GO AHEAD. AND FOLKS WILL JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. I'LL PUT YOU IN THE QUEUE. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. YEAH. CAN, CAN YOU PUT UP THE SORT OF, I KNOW IT'S NOT A SITE PLAN, BUT THE VISION FOR THE SF SIX STONING OR CAN STAFF THE VISION FOR THE SF SECTION THAT SHOWED A PARKING LOT WITH SOME, A LITTLE BIT FORWARD? I THINK PAGE 14. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S IT. UM, IF I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M SORT OF SEEING A PARKING LOT SURROUNDED BY SOME HOMES, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, DO YOU PLAN FOR THAT TO BE A COMMUNITY? IS THAT A GATED PARKING LOT? UH, NO, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS WAS PLANNED TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY. NO, IT IS NOT GETTING CONFIRMATION THAT IT IS NOT PLANNED COMMUNITY. OKAY. UM, AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE A SINGLE DRIVE AND THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT OTHER LOT? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT OTHER PIECE IS JUST COMPLETELY UNDEVELOPED. IS THAT TENSION OR WHAT WAS COMMISSIONER RON THROWER HERE? UM, THAT OTHER LOT IS DEFINITELY INCLUDED IN THE SIDE AREA TO DERIVE AT THE 16 UNITS THAT ARE SHOWN. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY SETBACK LINE, AND THEN THE, IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE, UH, POTENTIAL FOR A 25 FOOT BILL, UH, COMPATIBILITY SETBACK LINE, THERE'S VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT A BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY NOW. UH, COULD IT BE USED FOR DETENTION? YES, ABSOLUTELY. DETENTION, WATER QUALITY AND THE OTHER NECESSARILY SITE RELATED COMPONENTS. YEAH. SO, BUT IF, IF THIS WERE SF THREE, [01:45:01] IF THOSE ARE THE BACK LINES, ARE YOU ABLE TO BUILD WITHIN THE SETBACK FOR SF THREE AND UNDER SF THREE, THE 25 FOOT COMPATIBILITY ABOUT FOR WOULD NOT BE THERE? THE BUILDING LINE WOULD ACTUALLY BE CLOSER TO THE FLAG POLE PORTION AND YES, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY BUFFER WOULD STILL REMAIN IN PLACE AND DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE STILL HAS TO ABIDE BY THE WATERFRONT OAKLAND. YES. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM. SO THE PAGE BEFORE THAT SHOWED WHAT AN SF THREE WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, THAT IS CORRECT. UM, TH THAT, THAT MAYBE IT WOULDN'T POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THOSE UNITS ON THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY THEN. WELL, THERE'S A BUILDABLE AREA FOR EACH OF THESE LOTS ON THE, UNDER THE SF THREE, A SUBDIVISION TO PUT TWO UNITS ON EACH LOT. OKAY. OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. OKAY. UM, BACK TO GRID VIEW, UM, WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO, OKAY. I SEE COMMISSIONER SHAY AND THAT'S IT FOR NOW? GO AHEAD, PATRICIA. YEAH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SO THAT FLAG, I THINK, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED THAT THAT FLAG WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR ACCESS BY THE HICKEY COLOR. LIKE YOU LIKE TO SNEAK IT IN LATER. I MEAN, IS THAT, I MEAN RIGHT NOW, HOW WIDE IS IT? IS IT PART OF THE PLAN? ARE YOU GOING TO PRETTY MUCH KEEP THAT, NOT PART OF THE PLAN TO TAKE A VEHICLE? THAT'S LIKE A COMMISSIONER THAT FLAG, I BELIEVE IS 15 FEET WIDE. THERE IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT ON IT, AND I BELIEVE THE ACCESS EASEMENT JUST MEANS THAT ACCESS CAN OCCUR AND WE CANNOT IMPEDE ACCESS. UH, IF ARE WE GOING TO TAKE ACCESS TO IT? I DON'T THINK WE WOULD. I THINK IT'D BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. IT WOULD BE ONLY ONE WAY DRIVE FOR US TO BE OPERATIONAL THROUGH THERE. UM, BUT I THINK WE WOULD TAKE CALL ACCESS TO MONTOPOLIS. OKAY. BUT IF IT WAS SF THREE, THEN THAT 15 FOOT THAT COULD TAKE THAT STEP. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES. IF THIS WAS AN ESSENCE THREE DEVELOPMENT, THEN YES, WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD PUT A DRIVE DOWN THAT FLAG POLE. HMM. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, I MEAN, BEING RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATER NEXT TO THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. I MEAN, MY, MY WHOLE CONCERN WHEN I LOOK AT IT IS, IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT JUST LIKE IN A, YOU KNOW, A LOT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FAR AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NEXT TO THE LAKE AND EVERYTHING. BUT I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, TO ME, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE LAKE PARK. UM, CAN YOU GO OVER THE PROTECTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE OF THIS VERSUS DOING A STANDARD TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I MEAN, CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, UM, PROTECTIONS THAT POTENTIALLY THIS CAN HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CRITICAL AREA, INSTEAD OF SAY SAYING, YOU KNOW, SF THREE DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN YOU KIND OF GO OVER THAT, SO WE UNDERSTAND, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENTS THAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS VERSUS SF THREE, UH, YES. COMMISSIONER. UM, IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT SFX DOES PROVIDE ABOVE ASSET THREE, THAT IS HUGE. I THINK FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS A GREATER TREE PRESERVATION FOR ONE, UH, UNDER ESSA, THREE DEVELOPMENT, ONLY TREES, 19 INCHES AND GREATER ARE SURVEYED AND CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THE DESIGN. AND UNDER SF SIX, EIGHT INCHES AND GREATER ARE SURVEYED AND THEY ARE A PART OF THE DESIGN. AND THERE'S ALSO MITIGATIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY TREE REMOVALS OF TREES THAT ARE EIGHT INCHES. THAT'S NOT A, YOU DON'T GET THAT AT ALL ON UNDER SF THREE. UM, UNDER SSX, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE FLEXIBILITY IN DESIGN IS SUCH A HUGE FACTOR IN TO BE ABLE TO SHOE HORN, SMALLER UNITS, WHERE THEY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED ON A SITE, UM, WHERE, WHEREAS UNDER SF THREE, AGAIN, IT'S JUST BLOCK STYLE DEVELOPMENT WITH BIG LOTS AND BIG HOUSES. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE LOST AS A THREE, I BELIEVE HAS GREATER IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE OVERALL BECAUSE UNDER THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, TYPICALLY THE DRIVEWAY THAT IS ON THE FLAG BOAT PORTION IS NOT EVEN COUNTED AGAINST THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ALLOWED ON THE SF THREE LAWS. UM, UNDER SF SIX, EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS COUNTED. UM, UM, UNDER SF SIX, EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY DRAINAGE, UH, FEE FOR THEIR REVENUE, UH, FOR THE UPGRADE OF DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THAT'S NOT THE CASE UNDER SF THREE. [01:50:01] UM, I MEAN THERE'S A, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE DEFINITELY BETTER FOR SF SIX FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR THE CITY AND FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF PROVIDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. ALL RIGHT. UM, OKAY. I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTION, RIGHT. OKAY. I SHALL GO AHEAD. YEAH. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. THROW OR JUST, UM, I KNOW THINGS CAN CHANGE, BUT WHAT WAS THE CURRENT KIND OF UNIT SIZE FOR THOSE? THE 16 UNITS WHAT'S KIND OF ANTICIPATED, SORRY. I HAD TO UNMUTE MYSELF AGAIN. UM, THE SIZE OF THE UNITS THAT I DREW IN THERE ARE ABOUT A 1,240 SQUARE FEET. UM, THEY COULD BE SMALLER, THEY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OF THE QUESTIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM OR WISH TO SPEAK GENERALLY BEFORE? I MEAN, AS AN EMOTION, DO WE HAVE EMOTION? SURE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? COMMISSIONER CAUSEY? YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY THAT I HEARD WAS IT WASN'T REALLY COMPELLING. THERE WAS, THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNER THAT SOUNDED LIKE WASN'T THE LONG TIME OWNER. THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF A NEWER OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY. THAT'S NEVER SHOWED UP, UH, THE TENANT ISN'T THERE, UM, BECAUSE THEY WERE KICKED OUT. SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SO MUCH A CASE OF DISPLACEMENT. THERE'S THERE'S $750,000 HOMES NEARBY. THERE'S A NEIGHBOR THAT'S PUTTING AN ADU ON THERE. SO POTENTIALLY THIS PROPERTY COULD HAVE HOMES AND ADU IN A, IN A LESS EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, UH, WITH SF THREE, UM, THERE WAS TESTIMONY ABOUT, UM, THE UPROOTED STUDY, WHICH HAS DATA FROM 2016. IT WAS CALLED DYNAMIC IN 2016. THAT REPORT WAS PRODUCED IN 2018. SO WE'RE USING FOUR YEAR OLD DATA. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO THE ITEMS THAT RON MENTIONED ABOUT A SIX JUDGE BEING A MORE EFFICIENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, PATTERN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF, UH, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF ITEMS, BUT ALSO ON THAT LIST ARE, YOU KNOW, LESS, LESS UTILITY METERS. THERE'S LESS, UM, UTILITIES ARE HAVING TO REQUIRE NOT CROSSING LOT LINES. AND SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF EFFICIENCY GAINED. UM, AND THE REALITY IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE, ONE COMMENT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND AFFORDABLE HOMES. THE REALITY IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS, UH, AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE A CODE THAT ALLOWS US TO ASK FOR THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND SO I THINK AT THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S OF SIX IS COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE. OKAY. ANY COMMISSIONERS WE CAN S WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL COMMISSIONER SHAW COMMISSIONER SECRET? SO I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP PREVIOUSLY. I KIND OF ANTICIPATED THESE CASES COMING BEFORE US, AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, TALKING WITH OTHER FOLKS ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND I'M, I CAN GET DOWN INTO THE BENEFITS, YOU KNOW, OF SF CYNIC. SO I CAN SEE THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY SIMPLE. THERE'S A TREMENDOUS LACK OF TRUST BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY AND THE, UH, COMMUNITIES HERE. AND GENTRIFICATION IS A REAL THING, AND I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THESE KIND OF DECISIONS TO UP ZONE. WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SUZANNE ALONZA TALKED ABOUT, I, DIDN'T KIND OF BE THE FIGHT, UH, IN THESE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING MEETINGS AND, AND KIND OF WHERE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE REALLY HEARD. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE VOICE THAT ZONES THESE PROPERTIES. UH, I JUST, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS ONE AND, AND YES, THAT'S MY POSITION. SURE. WHERE'S YOUR MISSION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR THE MOTION MR. SHETTY, GO AHEAD. SO, UM, SOMETHING THAT I HEARD WHEN YOU KNOW ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD [01:55:01] PLAN WAS SMART INFILL, RIGHT. AND I HAVE TO REALLY START THINKING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RIGHT. AND I DON'T WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT, IS THIS SF THREE, TWO, ONE, FOUR, SIX? I DON'T EVEN CARE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. LIKE WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT INFILL. AND WE GOT TO THINK ABOUT THE MERITS OF EVERY PROPERTY. AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT THAT MEANS, RIGHT. AND IF WE USE THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT SIX HAS, FOR INSTANCE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE ONLY SINGLE FAMILY, ONE THAT WITH A 25 FOOT BUILDING SET BACKWARDS, IT WOULD BE FIVE FEET, 10 FEET AWAY FROM NEXT PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THERE'S EVEN LIMITATIONS ON HOW MANY STORIES. AND THEN EVEN THE TREES HAVE TO GO THROUGH MORE SCRUTINY ON IT. I LOOK AT THAT AND I'M LIKE, MAN, THERE'S SO MUCH MORE PROTECTIONS TO MAKE THIS FIT AS A SINGLE FAMILY, YOU KNOW, UH, DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S ACTUALLY HARDER TO DO, TO DO THAT THAN IT IS TO DO THE OTHER ONE. SO, BUT IT'S SMARTER BECAUSE IT BRINGS BETTER PROTECTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE OF THE BUFFERS. SO I LOOK AT THOSE MERITS AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHAT CLASSIFICATION IS THAT? I DON'T CARE. JUST TELL ME WHAT IT IS. OH, IT'S AT THE SUIT. OKAY. WELL IT'S BECAUSE IT ENCOMPASSES ALL THOSE PIECES. THE OTHER THING IS ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT MARKET, WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY ALL EVERYTHING'S SO THREE OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, AS THOSE PROPERTIES DEVELOP EACH 57 50 IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO UNITS. SOME OF THOSE LOTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO EVEN BE FURTHER SUBDIVIDED AND GET EVEN MORE UNITS. AND THAT'S UNDER 57 FEET AND THAT'S THE MARKET IS THE MARKET, DOES THE GENTRIFICATION. AND IF IT'S SUBJECT, IF IT'S EVERYTHING'S DIVIDED AT SF THREE, EACH OF THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO REDEVELOP THE AREA TO MORE AND MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSES UNDER SFC. YOU HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN, CREATES THESE HOMES. AND IN THE END, IT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO FURTHER PROTECT THE FUTURE, UM, SHIFTS OF THE AREA, BECAUSE TO TAKE A SINGLE SF SIX, A UNIT, RIGHT IN THIS SSX DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S AN SSX UNIT AND THEY WANT TO DO ANY ADDITION TO ANYTHING ON THAT. THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE IN AGREEMENT OF THAT. AND WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, IF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO THAT. SO THIS IS THE FUTURES ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE TO BE ABLE TO SLOW DOWN THE GENTRIFICATION OF FASCIST. WHAT I SEE AS WE KIND OF GO FURTHER INTO JUST SPEAK AGAINST YOU'RE STILL MUTED. OKAY, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. I BELIEVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THE ABILITY TO CHANGE ENTITLEMENTS ON THOSE ON THE PROPERTY YOU ARE PURCHASED. HOWEVER, THIS RIGHT DOES NOT GIVE ANY DEVELOPER THE RIGHT TO NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOTH IN THE CULTURAL AND HISTORIC VALUES. PLUS FINANCIAL, WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AND BEING FORCED TO MOVE THE, TO THE OUTER PERIMETERS OF AUSTIN, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN AUSTIN AND THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR HISTORIC PROPERTIES TO GO THAT FAR BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE. WILL YOU ATTEND MEETINGS WHERE THE STRUCTURED NATURE OF A DISPLACEMENT IS DISCUSSED, WE GO AWAY BELIEVING IT SHOULD STOP AS IT IS HARMFUL TO OUR LOWER INCOME FELLOW CITIZENS. AND THEN WE COME HERE AND WE VOTE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE FOR, AND WILL SUPPORT DISPLACEMENT OF PEOPLE. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMERCE AND HOW WE AREN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT, DO THE PEOPLE IN MONTOPOLIS DESERVE TO BE DISPLACED BECAUSE THEY CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE THERE OR SHOULD BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT METHODS OF BRINGING MORE DENSITY WITHOUT DISPLACEMENT, AND ALSO IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS WITHOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPOSALS. I BELIEVE THAT THAT KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF WHERE THE ADMISSION, SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THESE OKAY. LAST SPEAKER, UH, AGAINST THE MOTION. UM, OH, FOR THE MOTION OR, UH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, ONE LAST FOUR. AND THEN ONE LAST AGAINST [02:00:03] COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. WERE YOU SAYING NO. OKAY. UH, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION? I'LL SPEAK FOR SURE. I UNDERSTAND. GO AHEAD. SO, UM, I AGREE A LOT WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER SHAY SAID, UM, COMMISSIONER CAUSEY, WE JUST, WE HAVE A LOUSY CODE, RIGHT? WOULDN'T IT BE AMAZING IF WE HAD BETTER TOOLS TO APPLY HERE? UM, I DID HEAR A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT JUST PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, A LOT OF DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT AROUND DOWNTOWN. SO, AND LAWSON'S A SMALL CITY AND THEY WERE VERY AFFORDABLE, INCREDIBLY AFFORDABLE. AND THEN AUSTIN GREW AND GREW AND MORE POPULAR AND THEY BECAME LESS AND LESS AND LESS AFFORDABLE AS THEY STAYED AS A THREE. AND NOW THERE ARE JUST UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES, THREE PROPERTIES, EVERY SINGLE DIRECTION OF DOWNTOWN. AND I JUST SEE THAT, AND I JUST DON'T FEEL THAT AS A THREE IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE PROTECTION, THIS POST MIGHT FEEL THAT IT WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER MISTRUST IS WORRISOME AND DISAPPOINTING. I REALLY WISH THAT WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY. UM, I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THINGS LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T TRUST THE ENGINEERS, THE ARCHITECTS, THIS GROUP, AND THAT THE BUILDER AND THE DEVELOPER AND ALL, THEY WANT US TO MAKE MORE MONEY. IF THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF THESE GROUPS WAS JUST TO BUILD MORE EXPENSIVE HOUSING, NOTHING STOPS PEOPLE FROM BUILDING A MORE EXPENSIVE HOME, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IN AUSTIN IS TO BUILD LESS EXPENSIVE HOMES. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT BUILDING UNDER ESTIMATE SIX, EACH CAN BUILD MORE EFFICIENTLY. YOU CAN CONNECT, YOU CAN BUILD AROUND OBSTACLES. IT IS A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT USE AND YOU CAN PROVIDE A BETTER PRODUCT THAN A MORE FORMAL RATE. SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE BUILDING ENOUGH OTHER HOMES IN THE MARKET TO SATISFY THAT AND SEE ACTUAL PRICES DROPPED ON SOME YET TO BE SEEN BY SSX IS SLIGHTLY BETTER THAN LAST COMMISSIONER SPEAK AGAINST FISHER THOMPSON. UM, YEAH, I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE IN THIS VERY FRAGILE AREA TO MAKE CHANGES TO, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT ZONING WITHOUT THE SORT OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT LAST WEEK. I THINK I FOUND MISHA, THERE WAS SOME, SOME COMMUNITY BENEFIT, YOU KNOW, ADDED THERE, HERE. I DON'T SEE ANY COMMUNITY BENEFIT. AND IN FACT, NOW I'M HEARING, OH, THE BENEFIT IS IT'S MORE PROTECTED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, IT JUST MAKES IT MORE MO MORE APART FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE WANT TO BUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, AND CREATE NEW HOMES AND PART OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T WANT TO SEE A 25 FOOT BUFFER. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL OF THE HOMES CENTERED AROUND THE PARKING LOT THAT SORT OF SEPARATE, I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE HOMES ON THE STREET AND ADDRESSED FROM THE STREET, EVEN IF IT'S A FLAG LOT THAT EVERYBODY SORT OF FEELS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS. UM, AND OKAY. UM, THAT'S THREE AND FAVOR AND THREE AGAINST, SO, UM, MOTION ON THE TABLE IS IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, ALL COMMISSIONERS ON FAVOR. GO AHEAD AND GO. GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, UH, ALL OPPOSED. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, UM, ALL OF STAINING. UM, I GET THAT RIGHT. FIVE TO SEVEN. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO MOTION FAILS FIVE TO SEVEN. UM, IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE TABLE HEARING NONE? UM, THIS CASE IS YES. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. I I'LL MOVE TO A POST RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. UH, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION TO SQUISH OUR SEEGER? SECOND QUESTION. THOMPSON'S MOTION TO, TO POSE THE APPLICATION. UM, DOES ANYONE WISH TO CROSS YOUR THOMPSON? YOU'RE SPEAKING FAVOR OF YOUR QUESTION. I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR SOMETHING. YEAH. GO AHEAD FOR APPLICANT. UH, NO. UM, WE ONLY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT. UM, STAFF, UM, ARE WE ABLE AT THIS POINT, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A LESSER ZONING TO ZONE THIS SF FOR A THAT'S CHAFFIN. DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? [02:05:02] HI, THIS IS KATE CLARK WITH THE PLANNING CENTER. I'M SORRY. YES, GO AHEAD. YES. YOU ARE ABLE TO, UM, LEAD DOWN TO A LESSER DONATE. I JUST AM DOUBLE CHECKING ON. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME STIPULATIONS WITH SOMETIMES. UM, SO HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND, PLEASE. UH, YES. WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THAT, CAN I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE JUST TO SEE IF IT MIGHT WORK? YES AND NO. I WANT TO BE CLEAR. UM, UH, THE CHAIR WILL RECOGNIZE ALL VALID NOTIONS UNDER OUR RULES. SO THAT IS A VALID NOTION. GO AHEAD, TRICIA. UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SAID. UM, SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO THE PARK AND I, I DO LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS OF IT. I MEAN, WE HAVE A PERFECT SPOT, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WE HAD THAT FLOOD PORTION THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO USE AND IT GOES RIGHT TO THE PARK. SO WOULD YOU KNOW, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, UM, TO STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION TO HAVE THE DESTRIA AND BENEFIT, UH, ACCESSIBILITY THROUGH THE FLAG TO GET TO THE PARK. AND IN ADDITION, BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPER TRUST, RIGHT. AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY CAN DO 12 OR 14 UNITS, IT'S ONLY TWO MORE UNITS, SO I'M GOING HOLD HOLDING TO 16 UNITS. SO I BELIEVE THAT THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US WOULD BE TO PLACE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, ON THE SITE THAT, UM, HAD A NO BUILD FOR THE FLAG LOT PORTION AND, UM, BEEN A CAP OF 16 UNITS UNIT. SO IT'S ONLY TWO MORE THAN WHAT, WHAT THAT'S THE THREE WOULD DONE, RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A COMMUNITY BENEFITS. AND I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY ABLE TO HAVE THAT, TO GET TO THE PART, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE OTHER CASE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LET'S, LET'S GIVE A COMMUNITY. OKAY. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOUR EMOTION, UH, WOULD BE A SSX WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, CAPPING THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT 16, UH, AND WITH A NO BILL FOR THE FLAG LAW PORTION, WITH THE PRESUMPTION THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT, BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO COUNSEL WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT LIKE A, UH, A, A, AN EASEMENT THERE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS, I GUESS IT COULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC ACCESSIBLE USE, RIGHT. IN ANY CASE, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S A TOOL THAT WE HAD. I THINK WE CAN SAY CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, NO BUILD FOR THAT PORTION, AND THEN LET THE APPLICANT WORK IT OUT FOR COUNCIL. BUT, UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPOSE A, AN EASEMENT. UH, I C I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT SOMEONE PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UH, OKAY. I'M, I'M NOT HEARING ANYONE SAYING THAT I'M WRONG. SO THE, THE, UM, THE FIRST MOTION, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WAS BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEEGER, THEN COMMISSIONER IS MAKING A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR SF SIX, WITH A CAP OF 16 UNITS, UH, AND A NO BUILD ON THE, UH, ON THE FLAGSHIP PORTION THAT, UH, ACCESSES A CLOVIS. UM, IS THAT CORRECT MR. SHEA? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. WITH THE, WITH THE INTENTION. CAN I HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS? CAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS WHY, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, IS MR. COMMISSIONER, RON THROWER HERE? UM, I DID HEAR THAT. YES. UM, IT COULD BE AGREEABLE TO PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WHERE IT IS LEGALLY POSSIBLE. YES. OKAY. SO, UH, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION ON THE TABLE? IT WAS SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UH, COMMISSIONER SHADE. YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. UM, I MEAN, I, I PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE, FOR, UH, BEING ABLE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPER TO IT. SO WE'RE CAPPING TO WHAT HE'S TELLING US. AND ALSO WHAT I HEARD FROM PUNISHER THOMPSON ABOUT ALSO BENEFITS, UM, FINDING A WAY TO TWEAK THIS, TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THAT. AND I THINK, UM, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT TO BE ABLE, CAUSE IF IT WERE DEVELOPED UNDER SFP, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT. SO HERE'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY GIVES ADDITIONAL HEART COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE COMMUNITIES TO THE AREA. THAT'S WHY I'D LIKE, OKAY. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE'S ALREADY PUBLIC ACCESS TO THAT. OKAY. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE NO BUILD PORTION [02:10:01] PARTICULAR DRIVEWAY, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT'S BEEN A BLOCK AWAY. THERE'S ALREADY PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE PARK. OKAY. WE, WE NEED TO, UM, TO, TO GO AHEAD AND MUTE EVERYBODY ON THE LINE, WE'RE PAST THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. UM, SO CHRISTINA ANDERSON, ARE YOU CONFIRMING THAT THE, UH, THE MOTION WITH THE NO BUILD SECTION OVER THE FLAG LAW INCLUDES A PROHIBITION ON VEHICULAR ACCESS AND THEY MIGHT BE HELPFUL AS STAFF PULLS UP THAT OVERHEAD MORE SPECIFIC PLACE. UH, THERE WAS A, A MAP THAT SHOWED THE OUTLINE, THE FLAG LOT. IT SHOWED THE LAYOUT OF THE LOTS. I THINK THAT'S WHAT OVERHEAD PLAN. UH, THERE WAS A WHITE ONE. THERE WE GO. SO I THINK FOR THIS, YOU'D NEED TO CLARIFY THAT THE, THE NOBEL TO CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRETY OF THE FLAG PORTION. UH, AND THEN THE PORTION THAT OBTAINS ACCESS TO THE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC LAND AT THE REAR, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, PROBABLY THE, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK OUT SOME MORE DETAILS BEFORE IT GOT TO COUNCIL. IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING COMMISSIONER SHEA? YEAH, BUT I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET COMMUNITY. I MEAN, BASICALLY I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO PUT A DRIVEWAY THERE. RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT WOULD SEEM THE MOST ODDEST THING. UM, AND THIS WAY IT BECOMES A COMMUNITY ACCESS, BUT I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T USE THIS. THEY MIGHT NEED SOME OF THAT FOR, I DON'T, I HAVE NO ENVIRONMENTAL, WHATEVER WATER QUALITY OR I DON'T KNOW, BUT MAIN THING IS TO GET SOME TYPE OF COMMUNITY TRAIL OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT. SO, UM, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THAT THE NO BILL WOULD PROHIBIT VEHICULAR ACCESS AND BUILDINGS, AND IT WOULD COVER THE FLAG PORTION OF THE LOT AND EXTEND, UH, IN SOME WAY TO THE, TO THE REAR TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC LAND ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LOT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? CAN'T SEE YOU. OKAY, GREAT. THERE WE GO. OKAY. UH, MR. SHAY, YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO THE MOTION. UM, DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? AND IF WE COULD MAYBE TAKE THAT DOWN. I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY IN THIS VIEW. HERE WE GO. COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS TO, UM, TO TRY TO TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S A CLEAR NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFIT. UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS ABOUT A LACK OF TRUST OF DEVELOPERS. TO ME, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE NOT UNIMPORTANT ARGUMENTS, BUT THEY REALLY ARE A BIT BESIDE THE POINT IN, IN MY VIEW, THE, UM, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING CONCERNS ABOUT GENTRIFICATION IN SENSITIVE AREAS, PARTICULARLY ON THE EAST SIDE. FOR SOME TIME WE AND COUNCIL HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING TO ADDRESS THOSE MONTOPOLIS IS AS SENSITIVE AND AREA AS, UM, AS I THINK WE'VE CONSIDERED. AND, UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE APPROVE AT THAT CIT, UH, SSX IS THAT WE ESSENTIALLY ENSURE 14 NEW HOUSES ON THIS PROPERTY. IF WE DO NOT APPROVE IT, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE INSURING 16, SORRY, 16 NEW HOUSES. IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE INSURING 14 NEW HOUSES UNDER SF THREE. THAT IS, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN EACH HOME MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN ADU. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN. BUT WHAT DOES HAPPEN IS IF, IF WE APPROVE AT THIS ASSET, UH, SIX, WHERE WE WILL SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT BUILT, UH, AT THE SCALE THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN DISCUSSING. SO WHILE I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF ARGUMENTS TO BE MADE IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND DENSITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE'S A CLEAR ISSUE THAT I, I FEEL VERY SENSITIVE TO ABOUT BUILDING IN MONTOPOLIS IN PARTICULAR AND APPROVING THIS AND LIKE OTHER SUBSET, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAW, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T WANT TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT. OKAY. UH, JUST FOR SPEAKING IN FAVOR, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK IN FAVOR OF IT. I VOTED AGAINST THE, THE, UM, PRIOR MOTION FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY CLEAR IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE MAPS JUST OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. UM, THERE, THERE'S NOT A HOUSE, UH, ADJACENT TO THIS HOUSE THAT, [02:15:01] YOU KNOW, THE, UH, IT'S SURROUNDED BY NEW HOMES, THEY'RE ALL AT LEAST $450,000, YOU KNOW, RAGING UP TO $750,000. UH, TO ME IT IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT SF SIX WILL NOT RESULT IN HIGHER PRICE HOUSING. IT MAY RESULT ACTUALLY IN LOWER PRICED HOUSING, UM, THAT, UH, AND THAT BECAUSE SF SIX ACTUALLY HAS WATERSHED REVIEWS AND MORE SURGEON TREE REVIEWS THAT THE, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO HAVE IS GOING TO BE MORE SENSITIVE THAN A, AS A THREE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, PRETTY STRAIGHT, YOU KNOW? UM, AND, UM, BUT WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WITH SFC, UH, IS THAT BY APPROVING MULTIPLES OF THESE, UM, WITHOUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING TO LAND SPECULATORS IS THAT, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS A, A PLETHORA OF LARGE LOTS ON IT, UM, THAT THOSE LOTS ARE GOOD FOR REZONING TO SF SIX. UH, AND THAT, THAT WILL DRIVE UP A SPECULATIVE PURCHASE OF THOSE LARGER LOTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL WILL NOT DRIVE GENTRIFICATION AT ALL THERE. THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO MECHANISM THERE, THE IMPACT OF SEVERAL OF THESE REZONINGS UPON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A WHOLE, AND WHERE I THINK WE OFTEN FAIL IN LAND USE PLANNING, AND AUSTIN HAS TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, UM, I THINK COULD POTENTIALLY BE BAD. AND I THINK THAT THE MESSAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE SENT IS THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN SF SIX REZONING, UH, IN THESE AREAS THAT YOU NEED TO BE OFFERING TANGIBLE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, I THINK THAT THIS MOTION IS A LITTLE HALF-BAKED BECAUSE IT'S ON THE FLY. UM, AND I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THE APPLICANT WORKING SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE OUT WITH THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, ET CETERA, BY THE TIME THEY GET TO COUNCIL, UM, THE, UH, THAT'LL DO, UM, SPEAKER IN OPPOSED TO THE, UH, THE MOTION MR. SEEGER, GO AHEAD. THERE YOU GO. I DO NOT SEE GREAT VALUE IN CONVERTING THAT SLACK INTO ANY. NO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE A VERY FRAGILE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF DISPLACEMENT AND OVER BUILDING, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE LARGER, HIGHER PRICE TERMS AROUND, WELL, LET'S NOT START THAT AS SOON AS WE START WITH THE GLOW OF SFC GOING IN THERE, THEN WHAT IS THE NEXT STOP? AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO HIGHER IN ORDER TO SATISFY THE INVESTOR'S RETURN. I JUST DON'T SEE ANY PUBLIC VALUE IN CONVERTING THIS FLAG INTO A NO BILL SOUND. SO I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS ALSO. OKAY. LAST SPEAKER IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, COMMISSIONER CAUSEY, GO AHEAD. I'LL JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. THE OVER PRICED, UM, OVERPRICED HOMES ARE A RESULT OF THE CURRENT CODE ARE A RESULT OF THE BEST OF THREE, UM, TO THE POINT OF THE LOT, UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE THE LOT IN THE HOMES WITHIN THE LOT B UH, UH, PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE STREET FACING. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS LOT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT COMMUNITY BE. UM, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT'S ISOLATED JUST IN THE NATURE OF THE, OF THE WAY THE LOT IS SHAPED. UM, AND LIKE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I TOTALLY ECHO CHERRY KENNY'S, UH, POINT ABOUT LOOKING AT THESE REZONING CASES, CASE BY CASE THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST A BLANKET SF SIX IS GREATER THAN SF THREE, UM, AND THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR, UH, AND THERE'S, UM, SOME, UH, DESIRE TO ACHIEVE, UH, COMMUNITY BENEFITS. AND FINALLY, I'LL JUST REPEAT WHAT I SAID ABOUT, UM, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT SF SIX GRANTS, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER CONTROLS, UM, WITH S A THREE THERE'S THERE'S VERY LITTLE MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT, UH, POSSIBLE AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT'S DONE WITH SF SIX THERE'S MAINTENANCE AND, AND SORT OF ENFORCEMENT THAT, THAT GOES ON. OKAY. LAST [02:20:01] SPEAKER AGAINST THE MOTION. I'M SURE YOU'RE HONEST, BUT WE DON'T. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE STATEMENTS THAT PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS HAVE MADE, SO I WON'T TAKE LONG. I JUST WANT TO, UM, QUESTION THE ASSUMPTION, CAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS A FAULTY ASSUMPTION THAT, UH, DEMOLISHING EXISTING HOUSING ON A SITE IS THE ONLY WAY THAT A DEVELOPMENT CONTRIBUTES TO DISPLACEMENT OR GENTRIFICATION. I THINK WHEN WE ALLOW A TREMENDOUS OF MARKET RATE HOUSING INTO A COMPLETELY SENSITIVE AREA THAT IS EXPERIENCING GENTRIFICATION, WE DO FEEL SPECULATION AND THAT'S DEMAND THAT'S CLIENTELE. THAT'S YOU HAVE ALL KINDS OF INVESTORS LOOKING AT THAT, NOT JUST IN REAL ESTATE, BUT IN COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY AND WHAT KINDS OF BUSINESSES GO THERE AND HOW OUR TRANSIT IS PLANNED IN THE WAY THAT OUR PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND DECISION MAKERS START IGNORING THE COMMUNITY THAT'S THERE. AND JUST STARTING TO TREAT THEM LIKE A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THAT WILL BE GONE IN FIVE TO 15 YEARS. AND SO LET'S PLAN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE BUILDING FOR. SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE POOR PEOPLE TO STOP USING THAT ASSUMPTION. THAT JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY ON THAT PIECE OF DIRT RIGHT NOW THAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES IN WITHOUT COMMUNITY BENEFIT, PURELY MARKET RATE IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A GENTRIFYING EFFECT BECAUSE IT DOES. UM, AND I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD QUESTION THE ASSUMPTION THAT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T GRANT THE UPS OWNING THAT WHAT IS GOING TO REPLACE WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IS INHERENTLY GOING TO BE EXPENSIVE. SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IS NOT THE ONLY WAY FOR PEOPLE TO DO THINGS. AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OUTDATED CODE. WE'VE GOTTEN GREAT SUBSIDIZED COLLABORATED UPON NEGOTIATED DEVELOPMENTS ALL OVER THE CITY, UNDER OUR EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UM, I AGREE THAT THIS IS A INNOVATIVE LAST MINUTE KIND OF SOLUTION THAT'S COMPROMISED, BUT IT DOES FEEL HALF-BAKED. AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN PLANNED AROUND ENOUGH. AND I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHAW, I'M NOT READY TO BE A COMMISSIONER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ARISING OF MONTOPOLIS IN AN AREA WHERE YOU STILL HAVE A ROBUST COMMUNITY WILLING TO NEGOTIATE BETTER DEALS. SO I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST, OKAY, THAT WAS THREE, A FAVOR AND THREE AGAINST A MOTION ON THE TABLE IS A SF SIX BAY CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, FOR NO STRUCTURES OR RADICULAR, UH, PAVING FOR FLAG PORTION, AND THEN EXTENDING IN SOME WAY, UH, TO THE REAR OF THE LOT. UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SHOW GREEN, UH, EXCUSE ME, CHAIR. YES. I'M SORRY. THIS IS KATE CLARK. I JUST WANTED TO, UM, UM, STATE THAT WE WILL NEED TO JUST VERIFY WITH THAT CONDITIONAL FOR THE FLAG PORTION. THERE IS A JOINT USE ACCESS EASEMENT ON THAT PROPERTY FOR THAT FLAG. AND WE WOULD JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT WHAT, UM, THAT ETHAN INVOLVED, WHETHER THERE'S A CONFLICT FOR A NO BUILD ZONE. WHY WOULD THERE BE A, IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT RESTRICTING, WHAT CAN BE BUILT THERE? WHY WOULD NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH IT VIA CONFLICT? I THOUGHT THAT, UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD SAID NO VEHICULAR ACCESS, UH, IF THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A PARTICULAR ACCESS THERE. CORRECT. AND SO IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE'S THE JOINT YOUTH ACCESS EASEMENT, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY LOOK AT WHAT THAT EASEMENT INVOLVES AND WHAT IS A PART OF THAT AGREEMENT? UM, I'VE BEEN INSPECTED THAT WE CAN, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO VERIFY THAT IT'S OKAY. BEFORE IT MOVED TO VEHICULAR ACCESS, I BELIEVE. YES. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. UH, SO WITH THAT UNDER ADVICE, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. SHOW GREEN DOING ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, UH, ALL OPPOSED. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE SIX ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX, SEVEN. IT FEELS FIVE TO SEVEN. UM, THE BASE MOTION ON THE TABLE I BELIEVE WAS FOR, UH, . UM, THAT WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHEA, UM, IS A, IS THE MOTION, THAT'S THE OPPOSITE OF A PREVIOUS MOTION, REALLY EMOTION? UH, I DON'T BELIEVE, I THINK, WELL, THE RULES THAT WE HAD ESTABLISHED UNDER WHEN WE WERE DOING THE CODE WAS THAT, UH, SUBSTITUTES THAT'S, THE OPPOSITE CAN NOT BE, IS NOT A VALID SUBSTITUTE. UH, AND WE GENERALLY TRY NOT TO VOTE ON THINGS TWICE. [02:25:01] SO I MIGHT ASK FOR METRICS TO JUST RESTRAIN THEMSELVES IF THEY CAN. WELL, WHAT WAS THE THOMPSON'S MOTION? I THOUGHT THIS AT FOUR CAME FROM ANDERSON. I'M SORRY. UH, THOMPSON'S MOTION THAT'S RIGHT. WAS TO DENY THE ZONING. UM, AND WHILE THAT WOULD NOT BE A VALID SUBSTITUTE, UH, THE, UM, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DISPOSE OF THE ITEM, UH, WHILE WE AVOIDED VOTING ON THINGS TWICE DURING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEBATE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SINCE IT'S THE OPPOSITE. UM, I MEAN THE, THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD JUST BE TO LEAVE IT PENDING. UH, I BELIEVE, UH, COMMISSIONER RIVERA. CAN YOU ADVISE, I SAY COMMISSIONER RIVERA OR MR. VERA, I'M SORRY, HERE. I'LL SUBSTITUTE MOTION. CAUSE JEFF'S MR. THOMPSON IS TWO DENIES ON THE TABLE. SO MY SUBSTITUTE IS PAST . OKAY. EMOTIONAL ON THE TABLES FOR . DO WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHADE? YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. OKAY. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION AND WHEN WISHING TO SPEAK, MR. IS OUR, GO AHEAD. I THINK, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A LOT OF DISCOMFORT WITH THESE CASES FOR VARIOUS REASONS. I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IS THAT REALLY, I THINK WE NEED TO RECONSIDER THESE IN A BROADER FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, WHICH WE'RE NOT DOING AT THE MOMENT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW OTHER FOLKS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO MENTION IT AGAIN, RIGHT? ACCORDING TO THE UPROOTED STUDY, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS LARGELY CONSIDERED TO BE IN GENTRIFYING A AND IT IS EARLY ON BECAUSE THAT DYNAMIC THING HAS DUE TO THE WAY CENSUS STATS WORK. I DON'T THINK IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. SO THERE'S THAT LITTLE PAIN THAT WE ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH WITH DATA, BUT MORE THAN I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY, I THINK DURING THE LDC VISION PROCESS AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ADVOCATES WORK VERY HARD TO ENSURE THAT NO TRANSITION ZONES WERE CREATED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'RE IDENTIFYING IT AS AN AREA THAT NEEDED SPECIAL ATTENTION, BECAUSE IT WAS WONDERFUL, THE GENTRIFICATION. AND I AGREE WITH WHAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE SAID. IF WE HAD DEVISE THE LVC, WE'D HAVE VIET ADOPTED THESE CASES AS THEIR PROPOSED WOULD NOT EVEN BE POSSIBLE. BUT I FEEL LIKE AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING AGAINST A POLICY THAT HAD BROUGHT THEM THE CENSUS. AND AT SOME POINT WE WERE ALL AGREED AND, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I WISH THAT WE HAD ADOPTED A GOAT AND WE COULD HAVE PROTECTED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AS IT DESERVES TO BE PROTECTED, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE EFFECT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ZONINGS ON THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY, FOR ME TO ISSUES, NOT THE DISPLACEMENT OF RESIDENTS LIVING ON A PARTICULAR SITE AND THE COMMUNITY THAT GO WITH IT OR NOT. IT WAS REALLY THE LARGER DOMINO EFFECT THAT DOES IMPACT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, THEN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL. AND SO I HONESTLY JUST DID NOT SUPPORT THESE CHANGES IN THIS WAY. MR. SPEAKING, IN FAVOR, FEELING INSPIRED, CONSIDER ANDERSON. GO AHEAD. SURE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THIS PLACEMENT AND A SPEAKER EARLIER MENTIONED THE HABITAT HOMES THAT ARE, AND THE FAMILIES THAT ARE PUT THERE FOR 25 YEARS. AND I'VE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF BEING ABLE TO TALK TO SO MANY OF THEM AT THEIR HOMES IN THAT COMMUNITY AND A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES. AND IT'S TRUE. THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WHO'VE LIVED THERE FOR A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME. AND THE THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING THAT ARE HAPPENING AT WORK SPEED ARE THE DRAMATIC INCREASES OF INTEREST OF APPRECIATION. AND I THINK BACK TO DR. CHAPPELL, WHEN SHE WAS HERE, SPEAKING OF THIS PLACEMENT, SHE SAID THE BEST WAY TO GUARANTEE DISPLACEMENT IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS TO NOT BUILD NEW PRODUCTS. AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. WE KNOW THE NEW PRODUCTS COMING INTO INTEREST IS THAT IS THROUGH THE ROOF. IT'S A VERY WONDERFUL, CHARMING PLACE AS EVIDENCED BY THE FOLKS HERE, SHARING WITH US TONIGHT, THE VALUABLE OPINIONS AND THE LANDOWNERS IN THIS AREA, THEY MIGHT WANT TO PROTECT THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, BUT THAT'S A 5,750 SQUARE FOOT LOT REQUIREMENT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A 3,500 SQUARE FOOT LOT REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS BY DEFAULT IS GOING TO BRING DOWN THE AMOUNT OF PLAN THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO OWN A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF THE GOAL REALLY IS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND ALL THESE GREAT THINGS, NOW, I DON'T SEE HOW REQUIRING A LARGER LOT SIZE IS GOING TO GET US THERE. MR. SPEAKING, AGAINST SPEAK AGAINST, UM, THE, UH, WE JUST NEED THAT NEW CODE. UM, IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MISSING FROM THE DRAFT CODE IS A BONUS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO CONVERT FROM A EXISTING SFC LOT, UH, MUCH LIKE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, WHERE IF YOU PROVIDE A SUFFICIENT LEVEL OF, OF, UH, AFFORDABILITY, THAT IT GETS YOU TO A SCALABLE, ODD LOT SIZE CONFIGURATION, LIKE SSX, [02:30:01] UM, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE THERE. UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA IS, IS A VERY SHORT DRIVE FROM DOWNTOWN IN A CITY THAT HAS DOUBLED IN SIZE SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLANT. I, YOU CANNOT DOUBLE THE CITY IN SIZE IN 20 YEARS AND HAVE A CLOSE IN NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT GET IMPACT GENTRIFICATION. AND, AND I, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US RUN UNDER ANY ILLUSIONS THAT KEEPING THIS SFD IS IN ANY WAY, GOING TO SLOW DOWN THE GENTRIFICATION. I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT ALL THE LOTS OF FRANKLY, OF SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TONIGHT SURROUNDING THIS LOT THAT ARE ALL HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES. I MEAN, GENTRIFICATION IS HAPPENING THERE. UM, AND, UH, THIS, THIS ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING BY ITSELF, BUT IF WE CAN NOT FORESTALL SOME SPECULATION ON SOME OF THESE LARGER LOTS IN MONTOPOLIS UNTIL HOPEFULLY THERE IS A TOOL THAT CAN ESTABLISH SOME SORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL, THAT WILL OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DISPLACED OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT IT WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL COMMUNITY BENEFIT FOR SURE. SPEAKING OF FAVOR, PATRICIA. SO, UM, THE REASON I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF, BECAUSE IF THE ALTERNATIVE IS SF RISA, WHAT'S HAPPENING UNDER SF ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE ARE CONDUIT. WISING EACH OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL LOTS, YOU BUILD ONE UNIT IN FRONT THAT BUILD THE UNIT IN BACK, AND THEN THEY ENDED UP CONDUIT USING IT ANYWAY. AND IF WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO BE PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, LIKE EASILY, LIKE, AND FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT COMMUNITY AND FACING THE STREET WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE A UNIT IN FRONT UNIT, IN FACT, THE BACK UNIT IS ALWAYS KIND OF THE SUB UNIT OF IT, AND IT'S STILL BEING SOLD IN CONDO WISE, UNDER SFR A WITH, WITH, UH, I THINK IT WAS A 3,500 SQUARE FOOT LODGE, RIGHT? CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE 57 50 AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET TWO UNITS. AND THEN NOW YOU HAVE TO CREATE A CONDO REGIME AND IT'S NO LONGER PEACE, SIMPLE OWNERSHIP UNDER SFO. YOU'RE GOING TO BE ALLOW REAL OWNERSHIP OF YOUR LOT WITH EACH ONE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. AND THEN NOW THEY ALL PART THE STREET AND IT'S BE SIMPLE. UM, IT'S, I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE, WHAT THE, UH, WHAT SFV IS DOING AND HOW THAT'S CREATING MULTIPLE UNITS. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT AS A FOUR. I, INSTEAD OF, UM, PICKING THE BEST SPEAKER SPEAKING AGAINST, WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK. OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE GUYS. MOTION ON THE TABLE IS FOR SFR. IT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHADE. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SHOW GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, UH, ALL AGAINST, GO READ ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, UM, FIVE EIGHT. DID WE GAIN A COMMISSIONER FOR FOUR DAYS? FOUR DAYS? THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. THAT MOTION FAILS. FOUR TO EIGHT. A MOTION ON THE TABLE IS THE MOTION TO DENY WHICH I'VE CONFIRMED AS A VALID MOTION. UM, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK WITH IT OR OFFER A SUBSTITUTE OPTIONS HERE, MAYBE. OKAY. HERE, NONE. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAW. I THINK MR. SEEGER, THERE YOU GO. OKAY. UH, CAUSE ANDERSON, DID YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE OR WANT TO SPEAK ON IT TEAM? UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A MENTAL NOTE TO CHECK BACK WITH YOU ON 10 YEARS. THIS IS ABOUT THUNDER. I SAID, YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE MCMANSIONS. ALL RIGHT. UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY, UM, SHOW GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, ALL OPPOSED. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SEVEN, FOUR, ALL ABSTAINING. I THINK THAT WAS A FIVE, FIVE, FIVE, SEVEN, FIVE. ALRIGHT. UH, THE APPLICATION IS DENIED SEVEN, FIVE. UM, ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA. ALRIGHT. UM, UM, LET'S SEE. SO, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, UM, AND FOR EVERYONE LISTENING ON THE LINE, UH, BECAUSE WE POSTED AND SAID YOU COULD SPEAK ON EACH, I WILL NOT, I CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORBID ANYONE FROM SPEAKING ON THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. IF YOU WENT AHEAD, UH, HOWEVER, WE DID GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL TIME, UH, TO SPEAK IF YOU SPOKE ON ALL THREE. SO IF THAT APPLIED TO YOU, UM, MAYBE PLEASE, UH, CONSIDER, UM, HONORING THAT. UH, BUT SO, UM, [B2. Rezoning: C14-2020-0044 - Saxon Acres Residential Zoning; District 3] [02:35:01] WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM . WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT WHO DID NOT GET EXTENDED TIME TO LAY IT OUT. AND THEN I HAVE, UH, ON MY LIST, MEGAN MEISENBACH AND NOEY ELIAS, UH, WHO SPOKE ONLY ON ONE ITEM, UM, SOMEBODY ON THE LINE, YOU CAN SPEAK UP WHEN WE GET TO THAT, IF I GOT THAT WRONG, UM, AND THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL, UH, AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THE COMMISSION. UM, I'M ALWAYS AFRAID WHEN I'M GETTING TEXT MESSAGES, WHEN I'M SAYING STUFF, OH, SNAP PRESENTATION. THERE WE GO. FORGOT THAT PART. SO ITEM B TO KATE CLERK, DO WE STILL HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, SIR. I'M HERE. OKAY. THIS IS A CASE NUMBER C 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR FOUR AND ACRES RESIDENTIAL ZONING. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THREE 16 SEXTON LANE AND 63 28 EL MERADO STREET. AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.9 ACRES IN SIZE ADJACENT TO THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY OR TRACKS ZONED A STEP THREE AND P ACROSS DECKS AND LANE TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST ARE ATTRACT STONE, G R M P AND L AMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONE, TO SF SIX MP. THIS PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER THREE ACRES AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE EDGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 465 FEET FROM THE U S HIGHWAY ONE 83 RIGHT AWAY, AND IS NEXT TO EXISTING PROPERTY THOUGH. G R M P AND L R N T REZONING. THIS PROPERTY TO SSX AND P WOULD PROVIDE A TRANSITION AND USE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTIES. A VALID PETITION HAS BEEN FILED FOR THIS CASE AND WAS QUOTED IN YOUR BACKUP. AND THAT'S MY SUMMARY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. HASI. DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? WE DO. GIMME JUST ONE SECOND. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. OKAY. UH, OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. PARDON ME IF I SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD HERE, BUT I'M VICTORIA HOPPY WITH THRILLER DIVINE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. NEXT SLIDE. ARE YOU ON SLIDE TWO? YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY. VERY SIMILAR. THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE. THE PROPERTY IS NEARLY THREE ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND. THERE ARE NO HOUSES ON THE LAND, NO DISPLACEMENT IN TERMS OF PEOPLE LIVING ON THE LAND AND HAVING TO FIND A NEW HOME IS OCCURRING. THIS PROPERTY IS PERFECTLY SITUATED TO RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, HOME IT'S FOR FAMILIES THAT NEED A HOME. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. AGAIN, SHOWING ELEMENTS OF THE IMAGINE OFTEN, UH, CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND BUS STOPS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE. UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, TOWN CENTER RIGHT THERE CENTERED ON THE EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL CAPITAL METRO TRANSIT STOPS IN THE VICINITY. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ABOUT A MILE, A LITTLE OVER A MILE NORTH OF THOSE ELEMENTS. OKAY. AND REQUESTED FOR US TO FIX ZONING, WHICH KEEPS THE PROPERTY IN THE SINGLE FAMILY GROUP OF ZONING DISTRICTS. UM, AGAIN, NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SFE ANISSA FIX, UH, AND, UM, ULTIMATELY IT WILL ACHIEVE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT IN THE END. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE REQUEST IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AS A SINGLE FAMILY FEATURE LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWS FOR SF ONE DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AGAIN, THESE ARE EXCERPTS FROM THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, AND I WILL JUST COMMENT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HEARD WHAT DOES ON AN ONLINE JUST SAID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND I WILL SAY THAT WHILE SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE FOR, UM, SMART HOUSING OR SMART GROWTH INFILL OPTIONS, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO ON AN S WITH SFX ZONING ACHIEVED A LOT OF WHAT THOSE INFILL OPTIONS, UH, ALLOWS. AND, UM, THEY, THE ONLY DIFFERENCES WE WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW SUBDIVIDING, THE PROPERTY ADDS A, ANOTHER COST TO DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY AND THEREFORE IT DOES INCREASE THE END PRODUCT, UH, OF HOMES THAT ARE SOLD. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OH, SORRY. OKAY. YES. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. AGAIN, JUST SHOWING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DOCUMENT REVEALS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A DESIRE FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES AND INTENSITIES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE CURRENT [02:40:01] LAND USE MAP, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF VARIETY IN THE FORM OF, OF DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPES. SO, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THAT VARIETY TO THIS AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AND THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM MONTOPOLIS DRIVE, WHICH HAS EXISTING BUS SERVICE. AND IT IS PART OF THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK DEFINED IN THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK FOR ROADWAYS WHERE THE CITY IS PRIORITIZING STUDIES PLANNING AND ULTIMATELY INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE BICYCLES AND VEHICLES, VEHICLES, AND FEATURE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AGAIN, SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON, SHOWING SF THREE SFX, AND THEN THE THIRD COLUMN TO THE RIGHT, SHOWING THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT 34 DWELLING UNITS ON NEARLY THREE ACRES OF LAND, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE DENSITIES OF SF THREE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET UP TO 15, UH, 15 DWELLING UNITS, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY WITH A SUB SIX, YOU CAN GET UP TO 12 AND A HALF PER ACRE, SORRY, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS WHAT I MEANT. UM, AND WITH THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 34 UNITS, UH, THAT WOULD BE A DENSITY OF 11.5 UNITS PER ACRE. SO IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN A THREE. A HEIGHT REMAINS THE SAME. AGAIN, WE HAVE 25 FOOT, UH, NO BUILD BUFFER AROUND, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO US OF THREE ZONES LANDS. UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO CLUSTER THE STRUCTURES. IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY TO PLACE THE BUILDINGS ON THE LOT, TO WORK AROUND KEY ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES SUCH AS TREES. THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE TREES ON IT THAT, UH, BEAUTIFUL TREES, THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF, IF DEVELOPMENT CRAZY MINDFUL OF THOSE STREETS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THIS PROPERTY IS NEARLY COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY SF REDEVELOPMENT. SO YOU CAN COUNT ON THERE BEING A 25 FOOT, NO BUILT SETBACK, UH, ALONG EVERY, EVERY PROPERTY LINE HERE, WHICH WOULD GIVE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH SF THREE, UH, ZONING AND EXISTING HOMES, GREATER PRIVACY, UM, TO THEIR PERSONAL LIVES, UH, IN THE END, AS A FIXED OFFERS, A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT THAT IS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, MORE COST EFFICIENT, AND APPEALS TO THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO MAINTAIN A LARGE YARD WITH LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. AND SHOWING HOW THE PROPERTY COULD DEVELOP UNDER EXISTING SF THREE ENTITLEMENTS. THE LAND WOULD BE SUBDIVIDED IN THE 14, LOTS OF EACH LOT, HAVING AN ADU, UH, FOR A TOTAL YIELD OF 28 UNITS. UH, THE HOUSES ON EACH LOCK CAN BE AS CLOSE AS FIVE FEET TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL TREES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE REMOVED TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PUBLIC ROADWAY THAT RUNS UP THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY. AND ALSO I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION. IS THAT WITH THIS, WITH, WITH A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN ON THE SHARP 30, IF IT'S A SIX ZONING IS ACHIEVED, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T SEE MUCH CONNECTIVITY. THERE ISN'T ANY IMPROVEMENT IN CONNECTIVITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WITH THIS PLAN. AND IN A MINUTE, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF CONNECTIVITY THAT CAN BE APPROVED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING HOW THE PROPERTY COULD DEVELOP WITHIN US A SIX DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE LAND WOULD REMAIN INTACT OF A SINGLE LOT, AND THERE ARE 34 UNITS PLACED ON THE LOT RESPECTING SIGNIFICANT TREES AND INVITING BY THE 25 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK CLOSELY AT JUST HOW SIMILAR THESE TWO ZONING DISTRICTS ARE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, SFX RUNNING DISTRICTS THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH IT. SYNC IS COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S EXISTING TODAY, BUT IT WILL PROVIDE FOR A BETTER DEVELOPMENT. IN THE END, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN NEEDS MORE HOUSING AND GREATER DIVERSITY OF HOUSING WERE AVAILABLE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO OUR SIGNUP LIST. UH, MEGAN MEISENBACH ARE YOU ON THE LINE, RON THRONE? WE'RE HERE. DID YOU ASK FOR ME? OH, I'M SORRY. YES, RON, I OVERLOOKED YOU. UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU'LL BE UP IN A FEW MINUTES AND THEN NO, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONERS. I COULD ECHO EVERYTHING THAT, UH, VICTORIA HAD STATED IN HER STATEMENT AND, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THOSE LEVELS OF DETAILS AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THAT, UH, WITH THE PREVIOUS CASE, BUT I WILL WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION THAT, UH, IS IN MY EMAIL POINTED TO Y'ALL [02:45:01] YESTERDAY. THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY IS MORE THAN WILLING TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY MANIFEST WITH A VOLUNTARY OFFERING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF TWO UNITS, UH, AND ASSOCIATION SHIP WITH THE 34 UNITS THAT IT WAS BEING PROPOSED. AND AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, THEY HAVE, UH, COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT SAID THAT IF THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE 35 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, THEN THEY COULD DO 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, MATHEMATICALLY BECAUSE OF THE 3,500 SQUARE FEET THAT'S REQUIRED FOR EVERY UNIT, THIS PROPERTY CAN ONLY ACHIEVE 35 MINUTES AS THE MAXIMUM. SO WE'RE TALKING UNDER THE SCENARIO OF 35 UNITS, 10% BEING AFFORDABLE. THAT MEANS FOR THE UNITS WOULD ACTUALLY BE AFFORDABLE. AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY BENEFIT OFFER IN THIS INSTANCE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE IN THE LAYOUT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE EXPRESSED IN THE PRIOR CASE ABOUT HOW THE FLEXIBILITY OF DESIGN IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, AND IT SHOULD BE A MUCH COVETED APPROACH TO HOW TO DESIGN COMMUNITIES FOR THESE BASICALLY SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES, BY BEING ABLE TO WORK AROUND ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, TREES AND OTHER ASPECTS. AND IN THIS CASE, EVEN PROVIDING SECOND POINT OF CONNECTIVITY TO THE EL MIRANDO, UH, STREET TO THE, UH, TO THE EAST, OR EXCUSE ME TO THE SOUTH. AND SO, UH, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE OFFERING A COMMUNITY BENEFIT WITH THIS ONE. IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER OF A TRACK. THE DIFFERENCE IS 28 UNITS OR 34 UNITS OR 35 UNITS, DEPENDING ON WHAT LEVEL OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT, UH, THIS COMMISSION MAY SEEM IS APPROPRIATE. AND SO WITH THAT, WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, LET'S GO INTO THE OPPOSITION, MEGAN. MEISENBACH DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN, YES. GO AHEAD. UH, BECAUSE YOU WERE LATER IN THE SIGNUP THAN EVERYBODY, YOU JUST HAVE ONE MINUTE. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE SAME FRAGILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES ARE STILL THERE. YOU HAVE A VALID PETITION OF OVER 20%, WHICH IS EXTRAORDINARY IN THIS TIME OF COVID. IT SHOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESOLUTION TOWARDS MAINTAINING WHAT THEY HAVE NOW. I THINK WHEN WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BLACK AND BROWN LIVES, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH HOW THEY LIVE AND HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY COMMUNITIES I'VE EVER SEEN IN AUSTIN. AND I THINK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS SHOULD CONSIDER VOTING TO PRESERVE IT IN THE WAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. NO WAY ELIAS. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTE ON THE PREVIOUS CASE. UH, AGAIN LIKE, UM, THE PRESENTER SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A VERY SIMILAR CASE. IT'S A LARGE LOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THE COMMUNITY HAS, YOU KNOW, COME TOGETHER TO OPPOSE THIS, UH, WE, WHAT WE NEED IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE NO TOOLS FOR THIS. UM, THERE DEFINITELY ARE TOOLS AND EVERY TIME YOU, UH, YOU POST THIS UP ZONING, THE, THE DEVELOPER HAS COME TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND NEEDS AND PROVIDE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, SUCH AS AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A $31,000, UM, MFI, UM, FOR THINGS LIKE PROTECTING PARKLAND AND LEAVING IT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT EVERY TIME YOU TAKE THESE BOATS, UH, YOU ARE SENDING A MESSAGE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, AND NOW BACK TO MS. HUSSEY, UH, YOU HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD THEN. DEFINITELY OUR TOOLS. OKAY, SURE. TO TURN YOUR TV AGAIN. UH, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS THAT THERE ARE TOOLS TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, ON THESE PROJECTS, BUT, UM, REALLY THERE AREN'T THE, THERE, THERE ISN'T THE TOOLS THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ECHO THAT THERE'S CONCERNS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STATE LAWS BEING FOLLOWED WITH REGARDS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UM, AND THOSE MATTERS, BUT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE CITY [02:50:01] LAW DEPARTMENT TO WEIGH IN ON, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, REALLY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT HERE. UM, AS A THREE DEVELOPMENT CAN GO HERE AND IT WILL GO HERE. IF THAT'S A FIX IS NOT APPROVED. UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR CLIENT IS PREPARED TO, TO DO DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE, BUT IT JUST DOES NOT, DOES NOT SERVE THE COMMUNITY BETTER. I KNOW THAT IS THE BELIEF THAT LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, AND IT WILL BETTER SERVE THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT DOESN'T, IT ACTUALLY, THE HOUSES WILL COST MORE. IT WILL PUT, UH, IT WILL PUT HOME OWNERSHIP FURTHER AWAY FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE LOWER ON THE, YOU KNOW, UH, ECONOMIC PLAYING FIELD. IT'S JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO BE BIG, BAD DEVELOPERS. WE'RE NOT HERE TO SORT OF, WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A SMART, EFFICIENT DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY ON MANY LEVELS. YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED CITYWIDE, THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROPERTY. THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A GOOD LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY. SO I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ONE COMMISSIONERS, RON THROWER. AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THIS IS A VACANT TRACK. THERE'S NO DISPLACEMENT INVOLVED LOOKING AT AREAS, GOING BACK TO THE FORTIES. I'VE NEVER SEEN A HOUSE ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, IT IS VERY SUITED FOR SSX DEVELOPMENT. AND AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TWO UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR A PERIOD OF 99 YEARS FOR SALE UNITS, ADDIE DENSITY OF 34 UNITS BEING ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY, OR TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF HOUSES THAT GO ON THE PROPERTY AT 35. AND IT'S TO PROVIDE 10% OF THE UNITS FOR A PERIOD OF 39 YEARS AND PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE THAT AMOUNTS TO 400 YEARS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THIS ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY I'M AVAILABLE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE'RE GOING INTO, UH, OR CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION BY SEEGER SECOND BY SNYDER, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO A ROUND ROBIN FOR QUESTIONS, AND I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY JUST CONFIRMING SOMETHING WITH THE APPLICANT. UH, I WANT TO, UH, JUST BE REAL CLEAR HERE THAT, UM, UH, IF GRANTED A, UH, THE APPLICATION REQUESTS TO ZONE TO SF SEX WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, LIMITING THE NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, THAT YOU'RE GOING ON A RECORD RIGHT NOW IS SAYING THAT, UM, THAT WHAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE UNDER THAT, UH, WOULD BE, UM, FOR INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS AT 80% MFI FOR 99 YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT. UH, AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT UNDER SFX IS 35 UNITS AND PROVIDED THAT IS THE RELEVANT COMMISSION THEN YES, 10% OF THE UNITS FOR 99 YEARS. RIGHT. AND, UH, I AM IN NO WAY SAYING THAT MY VOTE IS, IS PREDICATED UPON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON, ON YOUR PLANS FOR THE TRACK AND TO GET YOU ON RECORD THERE. UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WISHES TO ASK QUESTIONS OR OFFER COMMENTS, MR. SHAW AND KRISHNA SEEGER. GO AHEAD, TARA. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE SUZANNE AMANDA STILL AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS OR NOT MISS ALMANZAR. ARE YOU FILLING THE LINE RIGHT NOW? IT SOUNDED LIKE MISS. I DON'T SAY MISS. I SAY MS. UH, AMMAN. SORRY. ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? CAN HIT STAR SIX. IF YOU'RE MUTED, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE SPEAKING. OKAY. I THINK I'M HEARING THAT SHE IS NOT ON THE LINE, I GUESS. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO THE CONTENT TEAM AVAILABLE AT ALL? UM, SO EVERYONE WHO'S ON THE LINE. IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE CONTACT TEAM, THIS WOULD BE A GREAT TIME TO UNMUTE YOUR STUFF WITH OUR SIX AND SPEAK UP. HI, THIS IS, UH, PETER SIMON. I'M I'M HERE, BUT I THINK NO, NO, HE IS, IS ON THE CONTACT TEAM. NO WAY. ARE YOU STILL HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN HEAR ME. YUP. WE CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO [02:55:03] THIS IS MY QUESTION, NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE. UM, SO THESE UNDEVELOPED LOTS HAVE BEEN KIND OF A CHALLENGE FOR ME, AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT HAVE THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON WHAT THEY WANT ON THESE UNDEVELOPED LOTS? DID THEY WANT THEM TO STAY ON DEVELOPED, UH, THE BUILT TO SF THREE STANDARDS OR SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR ON THESE LANDS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH DEVELOPED? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE WITH US THOUGHTS FROM THE COMMUNITY? HI, THIS IS PETER. I DON'T KNOW IF NOBODY'S ON HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO BE THE BEST PERSON, BUT, BUT I CAN, I CAN SAY FROM, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, FROM JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY NEIGHBORS IS THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE THREE ZONING AND ALL THE INFO OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ALREADY. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK I HEARD SOMEONE SAY EARLIER THAT THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT WITH SF THREE TOOLS, SOMEONE WILL THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. NO, WAIT. OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. OH YES. SO, SO TRADITIONALLY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THESE LARGE LOTS? IS THAT A FAMILY, WHEN THEIR CHILDREN GREW UP, THEY WOULD BUY A SLICE OF IT, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILD THEIR HOUSE, UH, WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF MY FAMILY DID HERE IN MY SOFTNESS. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU SHOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WHAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING, UH, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO IS, UH, UH, TO RE UH, RESTART THE, UH, MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND TRY TO GET SOME FUNDING TO BUY SUCH LOTS, THESE LARGE SLOTS AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WAY. SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, BUT DEFINITELY WE, WE LOVE, UH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TRADITIONALLY WE HAVE BUILT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, FOR SURE SECRETS. YES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW. UM, I GUESS IT'S WOULD BE FROM THE APPLICANT. HOW IS THE, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME? YES. WHAT IS THE MECHANISM BEHIND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMISSIONER SAGER, RON THROWER? UM, THE MECHANISM BEHIND IT IS JUST AS WHAT HAS TYPICALLY BEEN DONE WITH, UH, CASES IN THE PAST. AND THAT'S, THERE IS A COMMITMENT FROM MYSELF AT THIS POINT, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THIS. AND BY THE TIME IT GETS TO COUNCIL AND BEFORE THIRD GREEN, THERE WOULD BE A RESTRICTED COVENANT THAT IS PUT IN PLACE WITH, UH, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OR, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FOUNDATION COMMUNITIES OR ANY OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ENTITY TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS PUT IN PLACE. AND AGAIN, IT'S A VOLUNTEER OFFERING, BUT IT IS ASSURED THAT WE ARE OFFERING IT AND IT WILL HAPPEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE THE QUESTIONS, MR. THOMPSON, GO AHEAD. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR, UH, THE APPLICANT. UM, AND IT'S BASICALLY ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY, IF WE COULD GET THE, THE, THE SORT OF CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN UP ON, ON THE SCREEN AGAIN. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD BE CONNECTING, UM, THE MIRANDA STREET TO SAXON LANE THERE? IS THAT CORRECT? SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING UNDER ESSA, THE SF SIX DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT WOULD BE TO PROVIDE TWO POINTS OF CONNECTION TO NOT ONLY SAXON, BUT EL MIRANDA. YES. OKAY. AND WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT ACCESS BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY OR ONLY TO THE FOLKS WHO LIVED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT ENTIRELY, BUT WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE THIS TO BE A GATED COMMUNITY. UM, IF WE NEEDED TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC ACCESS TO PROVIDE FURTHER PUBLIC COMMUNITY BENEFIT, WE WOULD BE GLAD TO DO SO, BUT THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY QUESTION. CAN I FOLLOW UP WITH THAT [03:00:01] JUST FOR RUN OR, I MEAN, I KNOW IT MIGHT TAKE UP, UM, PROPERTY, BUT CAN YOU STILL PROVIDE THE ACCESS WITH THE JUST WITH A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT. THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE OBLIGATION TO ACTUALLY DO IT. UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF, UH, MUNICIPAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THEN GIVEN TO THE CITY. AND THAT IS A BURDEN ON EVERY LANDOWNER. THAT'S GOING TO BE BUYING A HOUSE IN A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. AND I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT IT'S FURTHER BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS FOR THE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE OF THAT. UH, THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE PROVIDE THAT SECOND POINT OF ACCESS, BUT UNDER THE SSX WE CERTAINLY WILL. OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY WANT TO OFFER A COMMENT BEFORE WE GO INTO EMOTION? FISHERS ARE, GO AHEAD. JEN QUESTION FOR MR. . UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE AFFORDABLE DOESN'T CARE TO IT'S 80% IN FIVE, FOUR, NINE, NINE ESTABLISHED. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE UNIT SIZES OR THE BEDROOM NUMBERS OR JUST THE COMPATIBILITY? DO THE OTHER UNITS. SO WOULD WHATEVER'S BEING OFFERED, BE COMPARABLE, DO THE OTHER MARKET IN TERMS OF BEDROOM NUMBERS IN SCIENCE, RON THROWER AGAIN? UH, YES. UH, THE, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROPERTY WAS MAKING THE AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE LIKE, KIND TO ALL THE OTHER UNITS AVAILABLE WELL IN THE AREA OR IN THE DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT? THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE THE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. SEEGER, GO AHEAD. STILL MUTED. STILL MUTED. YOU'RE STILL MUTED COMMISSION SECRET. THERE YOU GO. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR ALL IN FAVOR. GO GREEN. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UM, GO AHEAD, CHRIS. YOU SEE YOUR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MY MOTION TO DENY. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER? YANAS PULIDO. SECOND COMMISSIONER SECRET. YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE ON THE ONE APPLY TO BE IN MY ESTIMATION, THERE IS NOT A DIFFERENCE, SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THE CHANGE TO ESX SETS. OKAY. UM, HERE'S THE OTHER STUDENTS GO AHEAD. AND MR. KRISHNA ANDERSON, UM, KIND OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I KNOW WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHETHER FROM A EMOTION THAT'S THE OPPOSITE IS A VALID MOTION. NO, IT ISN'T COME ON. WELL, LET'S, LET'S CHECK IN WITH MR. RIVERA. WHO'S TEXTING ME. UH, HE SAYS IT IS A VALID MOTION. GO AHEAD, MR. ANDERSON, UH, YOU, YOU MOVED TO APPROVE A SUBSTITUTE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER I'M ESTRANGED, CINDY WAS TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, I DO. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, KEEPING IN MIND OUR STATUTORY RESTRICTIONS, REMIND ME WHAT YOUR, UM, US FROM CONDITIONING ZONING UPON AFFORDABLE HOUSING. GO AHEAD AMONGST DOING THAT. WE'RE JUST ACCEPTING. WHAT'S BEING OFFERED TO US. THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING TO DO. AND IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE. THIS IS MORE HOMES IN AN AREA THAT'S ALSO DESPERATE FOR HOMES AREA THAT GRIND IN A CITY THAT'S GROWING IN A CITY THAT NEEDS HOUSING. I UNDERSTAND WE HEARD FROM SOME HOMEOWNERS WHO, WHAT WAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONINGS HAPPENING HERE IN ANOTHER AREA DOWN HERE, BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE FOLKS WHO AREN'T HOMEOWNERS YET POST TO NEED HOME SYSTEMS WHO, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND ADD THIS COMMUNITY? ARE WE AFRAID OF NEIGHBORS? WE CONTINUE TO SAN FRANCISCO OUR WAY INTO THE FUTURE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM CHANGE, BUT NOT ALLOWING HOUSING. WHO DOES THAT HELP? THAT DOESN'T HELP THE FOLKS WHO NEED HOUSING THAT DOESN'T HELP THE FOLKS WHO ARE [03:05:01] GOING TO LIVE HERE. CERTAINLY DOESN'T HELP WITH THE INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS HERE TOO. UM, THIS IS MANY TIMES BETTER IN OUR OPINION THAN THE PREVIOUS CASE, BUT TO LEAVE THIS SF THREE, I FEEL WOULD BE NOTHING SHORT OF IRRESPONSIBLE. SURE. SPEAKING OF SPANISH, SPEAK AGAINST LET'S TRY QUITO. GO AHEAD AND SAY NOBODY HE'S AGAINST THIS BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID OF FAMILIES ARE BUILDING MORE HOUSING. AND IN FACT, WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST VACANCY RATES WE'VE EVER HAD, UM, IN OUR RECENT HISTORY RIGHT NOW, EXACTLY BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET. AND BECAUSE WE'VE APPROVED AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF HOUSING AND AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF CHANGE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. SO I THINK IT'S A FALSE PREMISE THAT THIS IS TO KEEP THINGS AS THEY ARE, OR THE RESPONSIBLE. I WANT TO SEE BETTER DEVELOPMENT DEALS FOR MONTOPOLIS THAT THE COMMUNITY GETS BEHIND, AND THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST LET'S BE NEUTRAL. SO, UM, I'M GONNA, UM, I'M GONNA SPEAK NEUTRAL TO THIS. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, UM, THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE, CAUSE THIS IS NOT ON THE EDGE OF THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THIS IS SURROUNDED BY S A THREE CONDOM IN THE MIDDLE AREA OF IT. UM, AND IT'S ALSO NOT FRONTING LIKE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRANSIT AREAS. UM, SO I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE ON THIS AND WHAT JUST WOULD CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, IN ADDITION, I, I ALSO HEARD THAT THE, UM, THE OWNER WOULD ALSO NOT BE OPPOSED TO, JUST TO DEVELOPING SF THREE. UM, AND IF THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO DO IT, UM, THEN THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT'S THROWING ME OFF. I AGREE. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GREAT. WE HAVE THE BENEFIT, BUT IT'S, DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SEES THAT AS ENOUGH OF A BENEFITS. SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS THAT I'M KIND OF MIXED ON THIS ONE, UM, RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S WONDERFUL. YOU ARE MUTE IN CASE YOU CALL THEM, YOU CAN'T FIND THE UNMUTE. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING HERE. IS THERE A COMMISSIONER SPEAKING I'M SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST? HERE'S THE THING FOR HOWARD AND THOMPSON SAYING YES. BEFORE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. CAUSE MINE'S ACTING UP TOO. I CAN'T SEE THEM. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GIVE THIS AN HOUR. AND, UM, SO I KNOW THIS IS ALL DIFFICULT AND ACTUALLY THERE ARE SOME DESIRES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE HEARD EXPRESSED, AND EVEN IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM, I THINK THOUGH, HOWEVER, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING CHOICE AND TO GIVE FOLKS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE CHOICE AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT THEY MAY OTHERWISE NOT HAVE LIVED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF CHOICE. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, I REALIZED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS DONE SOME TIME AGO. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE ACTIVE FOLKS PARTICIPATING TONIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO SEE THE VALUE OF TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE DIVERSITY THAT WE SAY WE WANT, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO I'M SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER, I'M SPEAKING AGAINST, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP ME OUT CAUSE I CAN'T SEE YOU CAN'T SEE THE VIDEO COMMISSION COMMISSIONER. I CAN JUST SIT HERE. OKAY. UM, WHAT DOES THE SAME CITY INTERESTING IS THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S AN 80%, SOME LEVELS WITHIN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MUCH SLOWER. SO THOSE FOUR AFFORDABLE UNITS WOULD NOT BE ATTRACTING HER CURRENT RESIDENTS OF MONTOPOLIS. IT WOULD BRING INDIVIDUALS, HOUSING, PRIVACY, ET CETERA. [03:10:01] THIS WILL NOT HELP. THANK YOU. I'VE LOST COUNT HERE. I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY. BUT I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER CHAIR. GO AHEAD, TODD. SO THE VALID PETITION, I THINK THERE'S A VALID PETITION. I NEED TO HAVE THESE ONE, TWO AND THREE. UM, THAT, DOES THAT JUST AFFECT THE COUNCIL ACTION OR DOES THAT AFFECT OUR VOTE AT ALL? UM, ON ZONING CASES ONLY AFFECTS COUNCIL ELECTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU, JERRY. KENNY, ARE YOU BACK? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, REMIND ME AGAIN WITH THE MOTIONS FOR SORRY, FOLKS. MOST OF MY STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND SECOND BY, UH, HOWARD. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR DRINKS. AND I CAN'T SEE ALL THE VIDEOS. SO SOMEONE HELPED ME COUNT AS WELL, PLEASE. THANK YOU. ARE AGAIN, CAUSE AGAIN, SO THAT MOTION PASSES SEVEN, FIVE. UM, I'M GOING TO LOVE MOVING ON TO [B3. Rezoning: C14-2020-0039 - Clovis and Kemp Rezone; District 3] ITEM B3. UM, KATE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK US OFF GOOD EVENING? THIS IS CASE NUMBER 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO THREE NINE. COVISINT KENT FREE ZONE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 62 OH ONE CLOSEST STREET AND THREE OH ONE 10TH STREET. AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1.16 ACRES IN SIZE. IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE, OF THOSE TWO STREETS THEY SEND TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY ARE TRACKED ZONED ACCESS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH ACROSS COLUMBUS STREET AND WEST ACROSS ATTRACT ZONE THREE MC AND PNP. SETH IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO REZONED TO SSX MP. THIS PROPERTY IS JUST OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE AND LOCATED ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE NAME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS APPROXIMATELY HALF A BLOCK FROM THE HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY. AND REZONING THIS PROPERTY WOULD HELP IN TRANSITIONING USES BETWEEN THE HIGHWAY AND THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING INTERNAL TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE HAS BEEN A VALID PETITION FILED FOR THIS CASE AND IT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, MS. OZZIE, YES, WE CAN SEE THAT WE CAN SEE YOUR PRESENTATION. PERFECT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE SECOND SLIDE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, HERE'S AN AERIAL IMAGE SHOWING THE SITE PROPERTY IS JUST OVER AN ACRE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND. UM, NO HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY, UM, PROPERTY ISN'T DISPLACING ANYONE WITH REGARD TO HOUSING, UH, ON, ON SITE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. FOR CONTEXT TO ELEMENTS OF IMAGINE AUSTIN CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THE BUS STOPS NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. OKAY. ACROSS THE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, ZONING DISTRICT AND IT DOES FALL WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AGAIN, AN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. FROM PLAN, DOCUMENT, SUPPORTING A VARIETY OF HOUSING NEXT WAY. OKAY. AND REITERATING THAT POINT AGAIN. NEXT SLIDE HERE, AGAIN, COMPARISON OF SF THREE, SIX, AND AS WELL AS 14 DWELLING UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED ON THIS SITE, UM, DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE 12 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE DENSITY AND VOLUME PER ACRE OF SF THREE. UM, [03:15:01] WOULD WE WOULD BE REQUIRED. THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 25 FOOT, UH, COMPATIBILITY SETBACK. UM, IT WOULD HELP TO HAVE A GREATER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT. IT WOULD PROTECT TREES. IT WOULD PROVIDE OTHER PROTECTIONS FOR, UH, STORM WATER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, PRIVATE ROADWAYS THAT ARE NOT ON THE TAXPAYERS' DOLLAR. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. UH, THIS SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN RELATIONSHIP TO, UM, UH, THE ASM P UH, COMMUTER TRANSIT SERVICE. THIS WAS A LOCAL TRANSIT SERVICE AND TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK. UH, IT IS HARD TO SEE THAT THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK, UM, IS UNDERNEATH THE BLUE LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS THE LOCAL TRANSIT SERVICE. SO IT'S NOT VERY FAR FROM THESE ELEMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THREE SUBDIVISION COULD LOOK LIKE ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE COULD BE SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS EACH WITH THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN ADU FOR A TOTAL OF 14 DRAWING UNITS. UM, AGAIN, THE, EACH, EACH DWELLING UNIT WOULD BE A QUOTE, COULD BE AS CLOSE AS FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OH, THIS IS THE SAME LAYOUT. JUST SHOWING YOU CONTEXT OF WHAT'S EXISTING IN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TODAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF WHAT COULD BE ACHIEVED ON THIS SITE. AGAIN, NO MORE THAN 14 UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED DUE TO FIGHT AREA REQUIREMENTS. UM, THE DIFFERENCE IS, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS ZERO. WE CAN GET 14, 14 DWELLING UNITS WITH US AS SIX. WE CAN GET 14 DWELLING UNITS WITH US OF THREE THAT'S EXISTING TODAY. UM, SO OUR REQUEST IS MORE OR LESS ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT LABEL VERSUS A DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS. WE'RE ASKING FOR GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO DEVELOP THE SITE MORE RESPONSIBLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AGAIN, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE I'LL SEND ME INTO MORE HOMES AND WE NEED MORE HOMES TO BE BUILT WISELY, RESPONSIBLY AND EFFICIENTLY IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE GREATER SUSTAINABILITY. UM, WE WERE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HUSSEY CHAIR. KENNY, ARE YOU BACK? IT'S NOT MR. RIVERA. I DON'T HAVE A SPEAKER LIST. VICE CHAIR, RON THROWER HERE. I BELIEVE NOEY ELIAS IS ONLINE. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD, MR. THROWER, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, THANK YOU. UH, BY SHARE RON THROWER, WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE LANDOWNER. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE EXERCISE, UH, SEVEN SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS ARE AVAILABLE, 14 UNITS, AND AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE THE SITE AREA DIVIDED BY THE 3,500 SQUARE FEET, NO MORE THAN 14 CONDO UNITS CAN GO ON THE PROPERTY. UM, AGAIN PROVIDES FOR THE FLEXIBILITY AND DESIGN. UM, THE UNITS CAN CERTAINLY BE ORIENTED TO BETTER FACE THE STREET. AS A CONCERN WAS OFFERED WITH THE PROJECT OVER AT 200 MEN TOPLESS. UM, AND I'VE, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO SEE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE AND UNDER, AT THREE, LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT MONTOPOLIS AND CLOVIS, AND LOOK AT THE 500, $700,000 HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT. UM, THAT PROPERTY IS ABOUT 60% OF THE SIZE OF OUR PROPERTY, UH, OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET SEVEN, LOTS AND CLIENT CAN PUT IN $750,000 OR HOUSES VERY EASILY. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE'S TRYING TO PUT IN HERE. HE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE HOUSING THAT IS BETTER SUITED FOR MIDDLE INCOME RELATED, UH, OPPORTUNITIES. AND AGAIN, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IN THE AREA. UM, AGAIN, AVAILABLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, KENNY, ARE YOU BACK RIGHT? HAD TO REBOOT. THANK YOU FOR, UH, TAKING OVER THERE. UM, I JUST HAVE TWO SPEAKERS IF THEY'RE STILL ON THE LINE, UH, WHO WERE, UM, WHO DID NOT SPEAK ON ALL THREE ITEMS? UH, MEGAN MEISENBACH AND NOEY ELLIOTT ELLIOTT ELIAS, SORRY. UH, MEGAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE KIND OF STAR SIX TO UNMUTE NOEY. S ARE YOU IN HAWAIIAN? YES, [03:20:01] I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. OKAY. SO THIS PROPERTY, LIKE THE DEVELOPER SAID THERE IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM A 200 MEN TOPIS OR FROM THAT FLAG, LOT, THE THINGS ARE VERY SIMILAR, RIGHT? SPEED. IT'S A SMALL STREET THAT LEADS TO, UH, UH, MONTOPOLIS ONLY ONE WAY. YOU ACTUALLY CAN NOT ACCESS ONE 83. UM, BUT I WANTED, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ALSO IS THAT WE HAVE A BALLOT PETITION. THAT'S SIGNED BY A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS AND THE RECENT WAY I KEEP SPEAKING ON ALL THESE CASES IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORS CAN NOT BE HERE. THEY ARE WORKING. A LOT OF THEM ARE ELDERLY, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I BELIEVE THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ALLOW OR HELP THE COMMUNITY PURCHASE LARGE, LOTS LIKE THIS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THE DEVELOPER PROMISES TO BUILD AGAIN WILL NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A $31,000 MFI. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. LIES, UM, BACK TO, UH, MS. HASI FOR REBUTTAL THREE MINUTES. YES. COMMISSIONER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT THAT, UM, THE IT'S A 30, 30 FOOT PAVED ROAD, UM, THAT THE, THAT THIS PROPERTY FRONTS ON AND THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER AN SCENARIO. UM, IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. UM, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR FLEXIBILITY FOR A BETTER, A BETTER PRODUCT IN THE END. UM, WE REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. UH, ALL RIGHT. UM, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING THE COMMISSIONER CAUSEY A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHALE AND FAVOR GREEN COMMISSIONERS. ARE YOU HOLDING OUT? YOU DON'T WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. RETURNERS ARE NO, YOU'RE IN A DON'T FLIP DOWN. OKAY. UH, CRUSHERS ARE VOTES AGAINST CLOSING AND PUBLIC HEARING. WE DO HAVE SUFFICIENT VOTES TO OVERRIDE HIM. SO THAT WAS 11 TO ONE. UH, I HAVE HIS SNACK NINE 30. OKAY. WE'LL REVISE THAT TO 12 TO NOTHING. UM, ARE THERE COMMISSIONERS OF QUESTIONS? ARE THERE COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK PRIOR TO EMOTION CHAIR? UH, I DID. THIS IS TODD. I JUST, UH, HA AND THIS IS MAYBE THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE, BUT ON THE LAST VOTE, JUST MAKING SURE HOW DID WE COUNT THOSE? UM, JUST, IT'S KIND OF A POINT OF ORDER YOU WERE OFFLINE, BUT WE HAD 12 TOTAL. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GOT IT WAS AN OFFLINE. I HAD THE VIDEO FEED GOING. I HELD UP MY BLOCK. I COULDN'T SPEAK. AND THEN I REBOOTED THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK PRIOR TO A MOTION OR HAVE QUESTIONS HEARING NONE. DO I HAVE A MOTION HEARING DURING THAT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. UH, I HATE TO DO THAT BECAUSE, UM, THIS, THIS MOTION WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SLOW DOWN IN GENTRIFICATION OR RESULT IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN MCMANSIONS ON THIS PROPERTY. BUT, UM, I WON'T SPEED THINGS UP, I GUESS. SO, UH, UM, AND THAT WAS NOT THE BEST THING FOR THIS SLOT. I THINK IT'S THE BEST THING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE. SO I, I WILL MOVE INTO DENY THE, UH, THE APPLICATION. I CAN SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. UM, ANYONE WHO HAS, UH, I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK TO MY MOTION. WE'VE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT. UM, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST CRUSHERS WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. ALRIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION GO GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12, 12 TO NOTHING. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT IS THOSE AND, UH, CHRISTIAN I'M. UM, I HAVE MY LITTLE BREAKS. I'M HAPPY TO DO ITEM [Items B4 & B5: 4. Plan Amendment: NPA-2016-0014.01.SH - Nuckols Crossing Road - SMART Housing; District 2 5. Rezoning: C14-2017-0010.SH - Nuckols Crossing Road - SMART Housing; District 2] B FOUR, B FIVE HERE. UM, SO MOVING ON TO, UH, NICKELS CROSSING CASE THAT WON'T [03:25:01] DIE. UM, SO ITEM BEFORE AND BEFORE, WE'LL TAKE THEM UP TOGETHER. UH, WE ARE AT NINE 35. WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND, UM, ITEM BEFORE IN PA 2016, ZERO ZERO ONE FOUR DOT OH ONE S H NICKELS CROSSING ROAD AT 4,400 NICHOLS CROSSING ROAD. UM, SAME ADDRESS C 14 REZONING, 2017. CROSSING A ROAD, UM, MAUREEN MEREDITH OR WENDY ROADS. UH, I'LL LET YOU DECIDE WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? I WILL START WITH A PLAN. AND IN THAT CASE, THIS IS MAUREEN MEREDITH. THE CASE NUMBER IS NPA 2016, ZERO ZERO ONE 4.01 POINT S H KNUCKLE CROSSING ROAD. PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITH PROPERTIES LOCATED AT FOUR FOUR ZERO ZERO KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY LAND USE. IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE DID RECEIVE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION FROM THE SOUTH END, SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM, THE LOS ARBELLA'S HOA AND THE KENSINGTON PARK HOA, THE STAFF CASE REPORTS HAVE ADDITIONAL CORRESPONDENCE. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE, WHEN YOU ROAD'S ON THE LINE? YES. A COMMISSIONERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WENDY RHODES. DO YOU HAVE ATD PERSONNEL ON THE LINE? UH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE UP SOON. SO, UM, PLEASE GET READY. GO AHEAD. MS. RHODES TO BEGIN THE ZONING CASE AS BACKGROUND, THE NPA AND THE ZONING WERE LAST REVIEWED BY PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL OF 2018. AND AT THAT TIME, THE STAFF WAS CONCERNED WITH SAFE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. AND IN THE ABSENCE OF MORE ROBUST TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR AND INSTEAD RECOMMENDED MAINTAINING THE EXISTING . AT THAT TIME, A PLANNING COMMISSION INDICATED THAT THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION RELATED ISSUES FOR THE SITE AND RETURN AT A LATER DATE. SO NOW TO THE PRESENT, THE SUBJECT 9.9 ACRE TRACT IS A ZONED SF TWO AND P THERE IS THE ST ELMO TRIBUTARY OF WILLIAM CREEK THAT RUNS ALONG AND IT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. AND THERE WERE SEVERAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. UH, THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY ON LARGE SINGLE HAVE A RESIDENCE ON LARGE, LOTS TO THE NORTH, UM, AND UNDEVELOPED A NINE ACRE TRACT. AND THE LOSS ARE BOLUS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY ACROSS KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH. THERE IS THE, UH, WOODWAY VILLAGE APARTMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UH, THE MFR AND P DISTRICT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT WITH UP TO 179 APARTMENT UNITS UNDER THE MF FOUR DISTRICT, THE FLORIDA RATIO IS 0.7 TO FIVE TO ONE, AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 60 FEET. THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH THE ATD ENGINEERING STAFF TO IDENTIFY A DRIVER LOCATION THAT SATISFIES THE MINIMUM SITE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ACCEPTABLE FOR VEHICLE SAFETY AND OPERATIONS. ATD IS ALSO REQUIRING A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN AND LEFT TURN LANES INTO THIS SITE. AND THE APPLICANT HAS SECURED PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FOR A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN OF THOSE TURN LANES. THE STAFF IS RECOGNIZING THE CHALLENGES IN DEVELOPING THE SITE, GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRANSPORTATION CONSTRAINTS, AND, UH, WITH THE UPDATED NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WE ARE OFFERING AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF MF TO NP. UH, THIS RECOMMENDATION IS BASED ON ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA, INCLUDING THE, UH, ZONING TO THE NORTH AND ACROSS KNUCKLES CROSSING TO THE EAST. UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THERE IS ALSO ATD STAFF PRESENT AS WELL AS NEIGHBOR AND HOUSING PRESENT. UH, SINCE THIS IS A SMART HOUSING CASE, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. YOU'RE CUT. I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. IS THAT RIGHT? MS. ROSA YOU'RE TRAILED OFF AT THE END. YES. THAT CONCLUDES THIS MISSION. GREAT. OKAY. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE ALREADY IN THIS, UH, I GOT A MESSAGE SAYING WHEN I WANT TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO POSTPONE, BUT, UM, TO ME, WE'RE ALREADY IN THIS THING, UH, UH, MR. THROWER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, VICTORIA HAS A, YOU ARE THE, UH, REGISTERED, UH, APPLICANT HERE. UM, DO YOU WISH TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS? UM, YES, [03:30:01] WE DO. UM, AND I, I'M SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I REQUEST TO POSTPONE. NO, NO, I'M SORRY. I GOT A NOTE FROM SOMEONE SAYING YOU MIGHT SEE IF THEY WANTED TO POSTPONE AND I WASN'T SURE WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM. SO, UM, UH, BUT WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE READY. SO I GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. OKAY. UM, VICTORIA, HASSEY AGAIN WITH HER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND MCDONNELL HOUSING PARTNERS, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER ON THIS PROJECT. UM, LET ME KNOW, UH, NEXT SLIDE. SORRY. WE'RE THERE. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, THIS CASE WAS AS WHEN HE SAID THIS CASE WAS LAST BEFORE YOU IN APRIL OF 2018. AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE ASKED TO PAUSE AND ADDRESS FACE DRIVEWAY ACCESS AS WELL AS LOOK INTO OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS, WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE. AND UNDER THE DIRECTION OF ACD, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, ENGAGED TRAFFIC ENGINEER SERVICES WITH WTI, FORMERLY BIG, BIGGER DOG TO PERFORM STUDY OPTIONS, UH, FOR DRIVEWAY ACCESS AND TRAFFIC MATTERS. WTI ARRIVED AT A SOLUTION THAT IS STATIONED SUPPORTED BY NTD. ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ABLE TO BRING MCDOWELL HOUSING PARTNERS ON BOARD TO OFFER A 100% AFFORDABLE PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOR SENIORS AT THIS SITE. NEXT TIME, PLEASE. NOW THE SITE IS NEARLY 10 ACRES OF RAW AND DEVELOPED LAND WITH FRONTAGE ON KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD. A SMALL PORTION OF THE SITE IS TRAVERSED BY A ST. ELMA TRIPPY, AND A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE SITE IS PARTIALLY LOCATED WITHIN AN IMAGINE. AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, SOUTHWEST VALLEY ROAD IS AN IMAGINED CONNECTIVITY CORRIDOR AND IS ABOUT 0.6 MILES AWAY. UM, IF YOU FOLLOW THE ROAD, UM, THE IMAGINE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS ARE INTENDED TO INCLUDE SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL SERVICES, SUCH AS DOCTOR'S OFFICES, LIBRARIES, RESTAURANTS, AND THE LIGHT, AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ENCOURAGING A VARIETY OF USES AT THE CENTER IN THE FUTURE, THE ELEMENTS ARE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL SERVICES THAT COULD AND SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE BY FOOT IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THEREFORE, THE REQUEST IS TO MEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR THE SITE AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A CONSISTENT PATTERN OF VARYING INTENSITIES AND MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COEXISTING WITH SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA, THE PROPERTY, UH, THE REZONING WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF A USE THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN THIS AREA TODAY AND IS GREATLY NEEDED CITYWIDE AND SENIOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR AGING, THE AGING POPULATION TO CONTINUE INDEPENDENT LIVING WITH LESS FINANCIAL BURDENS. AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER OCCASIONS ACROSS THE CITY. WE'RE IN THIS, IN THAT FOUR IS ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. THE DEVELOPMENT PREPARES BY MIGUEL HOUSING PARTNERS IS 479 UNITS, UH, FOR SENIORS AGES 55, AND THAT'S WITH RENT RESTRICTED BETWEEN 30% AND 80%, UM, MEDIUM FAMILY INCOME. THE PROJECT IS SELECTED AMONG MANY OTHERS BY THE CITY'S NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO RECEIVE, UH, 4 MILLION FROM THE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. AND THE PROJECT CHOSEN BASED ON MERIT OF WHICH LOCATION PLAYED A KEY ROLE. IN ADDITION, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION HAS ISSUED $23 MILLION IN BONDS TO FINANCE THE PROJECT, AND IT IS EXPECTED TO RECEIVE A DETERMINATION NOTICE FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS FOR LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT. AND THE PROJECT IS MARKED CERTIFIED AND THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD WILL BE A MINIMUM OF FOUR YEARS BOUND BY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT RUN WITH THE LAND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY, WELL, 179 UNITS PROPOSED 109 OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE ONE BEDROOMS AT 70 AND 70, A TWO BEDROOM UNITS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, 67% OF THE COMBINED UNITS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO TENANTS OF 30 TO 50% MSI. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEEPLY AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES HERE WITH THESE UNITS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. AND PROPOSED FOR THE 179 DWELLING UNITS. THE BUILDING IS SET SETBACK JUST OVER 90 FEET FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY OF KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD. THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE A SINGLE DRIVEWAY ACCESS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THAT THE SAFEST SOLUTION FOR ACCESS, WE DID ENGAGE ENGINEERS AND WORKED WITH ATD AND THE SOLUTION DID COME FORWARD. IT HAS BEEN VETTED AND APPROVED, UH, PRELIMINARILY BY ATD. AND, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. [03:35:01] OKAY. THE SITE HAS A NUMBER OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE BUFFERS SHOWN HERE IN RED OR IN YELLOW, SORRY. AND THE CRITICAL WATERS QUALITY ZONE SHOWN IN LIGHT GREEN, SIGNIFICANTLY RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. THEREFORE, NEARLY TWO THIRDS OF THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN NATURAL WITH SO MUCH SITE AREA RESERVED FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. THE MOST CRITICAL SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATION IS HEIGHT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE DESIRED DENSITY OF 179 UNITS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. IN COMPARING THE ZONING DISTRICTS, IS THE LEAST INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT AVAILABLE THAT WILL GET NEAREST TO THE HEIGHT NEEDED OF 67 FEET TO ACHIEVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WHILE WORKING AROUND KEY ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, BECAUSE THE METAPHOR ALLOWS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 60 FEET. THE PROJECT WILL HAVE TO USE AFFORDABILITY AND LOT TO GAIN THE ADDITIONAL SEVEN FEET NEEDED. THE FIRST SITE PLAN IS FAR BELOW IMPERVIOUS COVER, AND THE BUILDING COVER PERMITTED BY THE MF OR ZONING DISTRICT. AND IN FACT, THE PROJECT WOULD LIKELY SHIT WITHIN THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PARAMETERS OF INVEST TWO, IF NOT FOR HEIGHT, THEREFORE THERE'S ONLY REQUEST IS TO GAIN HEIGHT IN EXCHANGE FOR PROVIDING 100% AFFORDABILITY TO SENIORS. AND I'LL JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE PROJECT HAS THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR A PRELIMINARY, UH, ACCEPTANCE AT THIS TIME. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A SPECULATION AT THIS POINT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE ARE HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. THE FOLLOWING SLIDE PROVIDE CONCEPTUAL THREE D RENDERINGS AND ARE INTENDED AS A VISUAL AID FOR MAPPING ONLY. UM, THERE REMAINS MUCH WORK TO DO FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND OF THE BUILDING FACADE, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE THE VARIETY OF THESE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO GIVE THEM AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A BUILDING OF THE KITE WOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, AND THIS, THIS IMAGE HERE IS LOOKING NORTH, UM, AT THE SOUTH FACING BUILDING ELEVATION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HUH? THE WESTERN FACING ELEVATIONS. UM, PUT ANOTHER WAY. THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU WERE LOOKING SOUTH FROM, UH, STANDING IN THE CREEK. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN ELEVATIONS AS WELL. UM, THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. AGAIN, WE ASK YOUR SUPPORT TO PROVIDE PEOPLE THE AFFORDABLE LIVING OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR AGING POPULATION, AND WE REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR ENGINEERS ONLINE, UH, AND READY TO FIELD QUESTIONS IT'S FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT, SO, UH, GOING INTO THE SUPPORTER LIST, UH, WRONG THROWER IN THE LINE, UH, CHAIR ROUND THROWER. DID YOU CALL ON ME? YES. GO AHEAD. DO YOUR THREE MINUTES. OKAY. UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, IF YOU'LL PULL THAT UP TO WHEN IT SAYS BUILDING HEIGHT MEASURED, GO AHEAD. UH, THIS IS AN ELEVATION THAT SHOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT JUST EXACTLY WHY, UH, IS REQUIRED FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. UM, THERE'S HEIGHTS TO THIS BUILDING ON THE NORTH FACE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THE GROUND LEVEL PARKING GARAGE IS DAYLIGHTED. AND SO BY THE WAY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CALCULATE HIGH, IF YOU TAKE THE HIGH POINT NEXT TO THE BUILDING, THE LOW POINT NEXT TO THE BUILDING AND AVERAGE THOSE, AND THEN YOU GO UP AND SO THAT DISTANCE GETS US TO WHERE 67 FEET IS REQUIRED. AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, YOU, WE, WE LOOKED AT OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, LOOK AT OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS TO FIND THE ABILITY TO GET TO 67 FEET AND USING AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED. AND IT'S JUST PHYSICALLY NOT THERE. WE ONLY NEED TO GET TO THE 67 FEET WHILE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR 90 FEET, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR PLAN. WE ONLY NEED 67 FEET. AND OTHER THAN THAT, ONE PARAMETER UNDER, UH, FOR THE MFR ZONING, EVERYTHING ELSE CAN FALL WITHIN THE ZONING DISTRICT AS A STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. SO AGAIN, IS SINGLE SITE DEVELOPMENT, REGULATION, PARAMETER OF HEIGHT, ONLY EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AND AGAIN, AS VICTORIA MENTIONED, IT'S A DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, UH, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS ONE. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR SURE, BUT THE ACCESS HAS WORKED OUT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO ALL OF THE ISSUES. THANK YOU. THANK [03:40:01] YOU. UM, CLIFF KENDALL, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE SINCE EVERYBODY'S GETTING READY HERE? UM, I'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF NAMES AHEAD OF TIME FOR WHO'S COMING UP AND, UH, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO STICK TO YOUR PHONE, TURNED ON THE TV, HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND TRY NOT TO USE SPEAKERPHONE CLIFF KENDALL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN. UH, AND NEXT UP I HAVE MEGAN SILVA, CHRISTOPHER SHEAR, AND ANNA PODIA. UH, CLIFF, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. UH, JUST ESSENTIALLY LIKE THAT GO EVERYTHING. UM, THAT'S BEEN THE SPOKE, UH, FOR THE PROJECT TONIGHT, UH, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE, UH, ACCESS POINTS THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH WITH, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND NAVIGATING THROUGH, UH, OBTAINING A I SAFE ACCESS, UM, INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE WITH THE RIGHT TURN LANE, THE CENTER LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE, UH, OUTSIDE OF, UH, THE FACT THAT WE'RE ALSO, UM, AS MENTIONED, UH, PROVIDING THE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABILITY. YOU'RE A LITTLE MUFFLED THERE. THAT'S BETTER. THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. SORRY. UH, JUST TYING BACK TO THE SAFE ONE ACCESS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SITE, UM, THAT WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY, WORKED WITH CITY OF AUSTIN, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION STAFF, TO ENSURE SAFE ACCESS INTO THE SITE, UH, FOR, UH, PROVIDING THE, UM, RIGHT TURN LANE DCL LANE INTO THE SITE, UM, WITH THE ADDED PAVEMENT, ALONG WITH THE, UH, LEFT TURN LANE, UH, CENTER TURN A TURN LANE INTO THE SITE, UM, WITH THE, UH, PROPER, UH, SPACEY DISTANCE FROM THE FIVE FOR THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE PROPERTY. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT A SET IT, YES. OKAY, GREAT. MEGAN SILVA, THEN I HAVE CHRISTOPHER SHEAR AND ANNA PODIA. MEGAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR TO ADD. I AM JUST THE SEALING ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. SO I AM IN CHARGE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, BY THE USE OF MY SEAL. SO I DO TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. UM, AND I, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE DESIGN IS SAFE, THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE. AND, UM, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. GREAT. AND, UM, I THINK, OKAY, GREAT. UH, AND CHRISTOPHER SHEER, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HERE FOR QUESTIONS. AND SO, UH, EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON THE LINE. UH, CHRISTOPHER SHEER, RON FOR OUR WE'RE HERE, CHRISTOPHER IS PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE. OKAY. UH, WHAT ABOUT ANNA PODIA? HI, GOOD EVENING. UM, MY NAME IS AND I WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER, OH, MY BOWEL PARTNERS. UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE TWO POINTS HIGHLIGHTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BY RON AND VICTORIA, BUT, UM, UH, THEY MENTIONED THIS IS A SENIOR DEVELOPMENT AND IT WILL BE RESTRICTED. AND, UH, THE INK ON AVERAGE FOR THE FAMILY MEDIAN INCOME AVERAGE WILL BE 80% OR LOWER. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STRESS THAT THERE IS A COMMITMENT WITH ECHO AND IN COMMUNITY HOMELESS COALITION TO THE BULL PEN UNITS. SO THEY CONTINUED OF CARE. THEY CALL IT CONTINUOUS OF CARE. UM, THEIR GOAL IS TO END HOMELESSNESS AND IT'S AN INITIATIVE OF THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC HOUSE IN BLUEPRINT. UM, ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY THAT THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNED REGARDING TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. UM, SO YOU KNOW, YOUR TIME, I'M SORRY I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF THERE, BUT PLEASE STICK AROUND FOR QUESTIONS. UM, SORRY, ANNA, GARY THERE. AND ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, THIS IS ANNA. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A HEADS UP TO FRANCIS AS SUNA AND LAUREN FOR ANSELL ARE UP NEXT. GO AHEAD. ANA. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. [03:45:04] OKAY. UH, OH, YEP. GOT TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE TIME. OKAY. UH, FOLKS, WE HAVE THIS CASE, I THINK THERE'S JUST ONE MORE DISCUSSION CASE. AND THEN WE HAVE A STREET IMPACT FOR USES. WE GO AHEAD AND SAY 11, I'LL MAKE A MOTION MOTION BY CZAR FOR 11 SECOND BY SEEGER ALL IN FAVOR GREEN THAT'S EVERYBODY. OKAY, GREAT. GO AHEAD, ANNA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU. MY NAME IS BENNET IKEA. I'M THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF THE SAUDIS COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM. I ALSO CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M SORRY, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT. UM, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES, YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. UM, ARE YOU ON SPEAKERPHONE OR CAN WE GET A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON YOUR RECEPTION? OKAY. THAT'S A LOT CLEARER RIGHT THERE. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. SO, UM, AGAIN, UM, CONTINUE, I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THIS, ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I AM NOT IN ANY WAY REPRESENT YOUR SPEAKING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONTACT TEAM HAS THE HISTORY OF SUPPORTING RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. WE MET WITH APD STAMP ON JULY THE 20TH TO DISCUSS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ALSO TO REVIEW THE 2018 AND 2020 REPORTS. IT WAS AGREED THAT THE PAVEMENT WITH FOUR NICHOLAS CROSSING EAST 25 FEET, THE 2018 REPORT ADDRESSES BICYCLE SAFETY. IN REGARDS TO THAT, IT IS AT A FUNCTIONING AT A LOW COMFORT OR EXTREMELY LOW COMFORT LEVEL FOR CYCLIST. THE 20 REPORT DOES NOT ADDRESS BICYCLE SAFETY. I'M SORRY, YOU'RE CUTTING OUT. OKAY. I'LL TRY THIS. UM, SECTION 25 DASH SIX DASH ONE, ONE SIX OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. RESIDENTIAL STREETS ARE OPERATING ANY DESIRABLE MANNER. IF THE DAILY VOLUME DOES NOT EXCEED THE FOLLOWING THRESHOLD, WHICH IS THE 1200 VEHICLES PER DAY, WHEN THE PAPER WITH IS LESS THAN 30 FEET, AS YOU CAN SEE THE 2018 REPORT REFLECTED CLOSE OVER 7,000 AND FRONT ROW FOR 5,000 ON KEY POINTS NORTH AND SOUTH, THE 2020 REPORT REFLECTS OH, CLOSE TO 9,000 CLOSE TO 6,000 VEHICLE TRIPS ON TODD LANE AND CROSSING CAUSE IT'S NASTY. THEY, CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL 979 VEHICLE TRIPS. THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS IN REGARDS TO THAT, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO IMPROVE, UM, THE NICHOLAS CROSSING ROAD. AND THAT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BY STAFF DURING, DURING OUR JULY 20TH MEETING. ADDITIONALLY, THE KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD, UM, AND THIS IS ON THE 2020 REPORT. IT STATES THAT THE NECKLACE CROSSING ROAD IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT AN UNDESIRABLE LEVEL AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO WITH THE ADDITION OF SITE TRAFFIC. I DON'T WANT, AS THE RECOMMENDATION IS ESTATES, THE HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL ALIGNMENT OF KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD NEAR THE SUBJECT TRACK PRESENTS SEVERAL SAFETY ISSUES. THE CONTACT TEAM IS INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT THOSE SAFETY ISSUES RELATED TO SITE DISTANCE ARE AND HOW THOSE ISSUES WILL BE ADDRESSED. SPECIFICALLY. WE NOTED THAT THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT DROP WENT UP. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE EXIT OF THE BLIND CURVE FROM EASTBOUND OF ST. ELMA TO SOUTH ON KNUCKLES CROSSING. ADDITIONALLY, THE CONTACT TEAM, I NOTED THAT NEITHER TRAFFIC REPORT ADDRESSES OR TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE FUTURE GROWTH OF SOUTHEAST AUSTIN, WHICH INCLUDES 10,000 HOMES ARE PLANNED FOR EASTERN PARK. ALSO THE PROPLUS COMMUNITY OF LOW INCOME SENIORS WILL NEED ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. THERE IS CURRENTLY NO SAFE ROUTE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO REACH THE NEAREST BUS STOP, WHICH IS NEARLY A MILE AWAY. AND THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS ON THIS. ON THIS ROAD. THE CONTACT TEAM DOES NOT FEEL SATISFIED THAT THE ATD HAS EXPLAINED OR ADDRESSED INCONSISTENCY ON THE TWO REPORTS THAT THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANES WILL SAFELY ACCOMMODATE TURNS INTO AN ERA OF THE DEVELOPMENT. CONSIDERING COMPETING TRAFFIC TURNS INTO WOODWAY VILLAGE APARTMENTS IN VIEWPOINT DRIVE, NOR THAT THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANES IN ANY WAY ADDRESS BUSINESS ISSUES, WHICH ARE ANTHONY WENT TO THE BLIND CURVE AND THE SLOPE OF THE CURVE, THE CONTACT TEAM MET WITH THE APPLICANT ON JULY 22ND, AND THE APPLICANT INDICATED THEM PROPOSE ADDITIONAL PRACTICALLY. BUT THE APPLICANT IS ALSO SAYING THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO NEW IDEAS, THE CONTACTING DISCUSSED IN WONDER IF THE APPLICANT WOULD CONSIDER APPROACHING WOODWAY VILLAGE TO SEE IF THEY WOULD SHARE AN EXIT TO CONTACTING VOTED, NOT TO SUPPORT THE CHANGE BASED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES. AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION OF THE ENTRANCE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC, PEDESTRIANS, AND BICYCLISTS, AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO FUTURE PLANS TO IMPROVE KNUCKLES CROSSING ROAD. AGAIN, THE PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE BASED ON THE CURRENT SUBSTANDARD ROPER INFRASTRUCTURE PROVIDED TO THE SOUTHEAST AUSTIN RESIDENTS WHO USE KNUCKLES CROSSING AND THE POSITIONING OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY ON THE EXIT OF THE RISING BLIND CURVE FROM EASTBOUND SOUTH ST. ELMO TO SOUTHBOUND KNUCKLES CROSSING ON A SUBSTANDARD ROAD WITH NO SHOULDER [03:50:01] OR SIDEWALKS, TRAFFIC AND DANGER TO PEDESTRIANS DRIVERS, AND CYCLISTS WILL ESCALATE. IF A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND CHANGES ARE APPROVED, CONSIDERING THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLE TRIPS RESULTING FROM THEIR PROPOSED HOUSING UNITS. WE ASKED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO NOT APPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT OR ZONING CHANGE. WE ALSO ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CAREFULLY AND THOROUGHLY REVIEW THE TRAFFIC REPORTS AND THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALSO URGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION URGE THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF TO PRIORITIZE AND ADDRESS THE CURRENT SUBSTANDARD UNCLE'S CROSSING ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENSURE THE PUBLIC SAFETY. AGAIN, WE CAN NOT SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED BILL LIMIT AS IT WILL INCREASE ALREADY AND UNDER UNSAFE ROAD CONDITIONS AND RESULT IN THE LOSS OF LIFE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, PRINCESS IS SONIA FRANCIS. DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE THERE, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU, LAURA FOR ANSELL. YES. HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I'M SORRY. WHO'S THIS OKAY. I'M LAUREL FRANCE, FRANCE CEL. AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT. OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY OF LOS ARBELLA'S HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SPEAK FOR LASARA BLISS, WHICH CONSISTS OF THREE ONLY HOMES. AM I MUTED AGAIN? LAURA? YOU'RE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT. ARE YOU ON SPEAKER PHONE? ARE YOU ABLE TO GET MORE CLEAR? I'M NOT ON NO, I'M NOT SPEAKER PHONE. SO I'M HOPING TO THAT YOU'RE CUTTING OUT. IS THERE A BETTER PLACE FOR YOU TO STAND? UM, I'LL TRY TO STAND BACK, UM, FROM MY COMPUTER, BUT STILL READ MY STATEMENT. OKAY. UM, SO AS I SAID, UH, LOTS OF HERBALISTS CONSISTS OF 314 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF KNUCKLES CROSSING ACROSS FROM WOODWAY VILLAGE APARTMENTS, A TWO STORY AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX FOR FAMILIES ON THE SOUTH BORDER OF 4,400 KNUCKLES CROSSING LASARA BLISS IS ACCESSED OFF OF KNUCKLES. CROSSING BY VIEWPOINT DRIVE WOULD WAY VILLAGE HAS A DRIVEWAY ACROSS KNUCKLES CROSSING, SOME VIEWPOINT DRIVE, AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE A DRIVEWAY ONTO NEPALIS CROSSING, JUST 150 FEET FROM VIEWPOINT DRIVE AND WOODWAY VILLAGES APART. A DRIVEWAY SINCE THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS PROPOSED IN 2017, I'VE MET NUMEROUS TIMES WITH CITY STAFF, THE APPLICANT, THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM OF WHICH I AM A VOTING MEMBER AND OTHER CONCERNED NEIGHBORS. AND MOST RECENTLY WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO TRY AND FIND A SOLUTION TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON KNUCKLES CROSSING THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD CAUSE BESIDES THE DRIVEWAY TO CLOSE SAFETY, TO VIEWPOINT DRIVE AND WOODWAY VILLAGE, HIS DRIVEWAY, THE, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD CREATE MORE TRAFFIC ON KNUCKLES CROSSING, WHICH ALREADY EXCEEDS STANDARDS. UM, I'VE READ ALL THE REPORTS. THE PRIVATE ENGINEERS REPORTS, ATD REPORTS FOR VARIOUS PROPOSALS BY THE APPLICANT, INCLUDING THE MOST RECENT ONE, WHICH WAS PRESENTED FOR THE FIRST TIME AT A MEETING ON JULY 8TH FOR CREATING TURN LANES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS THE SOLUTION TO THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH, UM, TO THE DRIVEWAY ISSUE BASED ON ALL THIS INFORMATION LOSS HERBALIST OPPOSES THE 4,400 KNUCKLES CROSSING DEVELOPMENTS DUE TO TRAFFIC SAFETY CONCERNS, LOS ARBUS ALSO OPPOSES A FIVE STORY BUILDING ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE ARE NO OTHER FIVE STORY BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA, AND THIS WILL NOT FIT INTO THE INTEGRITY OR ASCETICS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE SMALL SMART HOUSING APPLICATION STATE ZONING CHANGES SHOULD PROMOTE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES. THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT DO THAT ON PAPER. IT LOOKS LIKE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WOULD FIT THE DESCRIPTION. THE APPLICANT USED OF A DISTRICT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR MODERATE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN CENTRALLY LOCATED AREAS NEAR SUPPORTING TRANSPORTATION AND COMMERCIAL FACILITIES IN AREAS OF JOINING DOWNTOWN AUSTIN AND MAJOR INSTITUTIONAL OR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ON THIS SECTION OF KNUCKLES CROSSING, WHERE IT COMES OFF OF EAST ST. ELMO AS A BLIND CURVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NARROW TWO LANE CRUMBLING ROAD WITH DROP-OFF AS RIGHT AWAY, THAT GOES UP A HILL WITH LIMITED SIGHT LINES BEFORE IT GETS TO VIEWPOINT DRIVE. THOUGH, THE APPLICANT COULD CRAFT TURN LANES IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY. THE REST OF THE ROAD WOULD REMAIN THE SAME. THERE IS NO ROOM TO CREATE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS OR BIKE LANES. THERE IS NO WAY [03:55:01] FROM THE PROPERTY TO SAFELY ACCESS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. OKAY. AM I OUT OF TIME? YOU'RE OUT OF TIME LAST THOUGHT. OKAY. THE LAST THOUGHT IS I LOST OUR BLISS IS A VERY AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. WE SELL OUR HOUSES, SELL FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS THAN THE MEDIUM PRICE IN AUSTIN. AND WE ARE A VERY AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, ALLOWING WORKING CLASS PEOPLE TO OWN THEIR OWN SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW THE REZONING WITH A REALISTIC VIEW OF WHAT KNUCKLES CROSSING IN THIS AREA ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE AND SUPPORT MORE AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY LIKE LOS ANGELES. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK WE LOST FRANCIS AS SOON. YES. SO, UM, OH, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, GREAT. UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN COMING UP, WE HAVE ML SLOAN AND JOHN'S SERMON. GO AHEAD. UH, FRANCIS. HI. YES, GOOD EVENING OR GOOD NIGHT ALREADY. UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME TO, UH, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT US. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN I SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, I SAID AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, THAT I LIKED THAT PROJECT, BUT WHAT I AM AGAINST IS A TRAFFIC, UH, NARCOS CROSSING CLUB, UM, BECAUSE IT IS VERY DANGEROUS FOR RESIDENTS COMING SOUTH. AND, UM, THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THE, THAT, UH, THAT STREET DOES NOT HAVE ANY ROOM FOR SIDEWALKS. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, SHOULDER PROTECTION. I REMEMBER SOMETIME IN 2012, WE BOARD DENIED, UH, THE SIDEWALKS. THEY SAID THAT THERE WASN'T, THERE WASN'T ANY, UM, ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF SAFETY. SO I BELIEVE IF IT WAS NOT SAFE BACK THEN, IT'S NOT SAFE NOW MORE NOW BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE MORE TRAFFIC. I ALSO, I, UM, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE . I THINK THAT'S IT. AND IF IT IS APPROPRIATE AND I WOULD LIKE THAT, IF IT WASN'T BECAUSE IT HAS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. AND, UM, IT IS VERY DANGEROUS. WE ENDED UP SPRINGS. WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF EXPERIENCES WITH FLOODING AND WITH, UM, RIGHT NOW WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON NOW THAT CHANGES IT. AND WITH CLIMATE, WE HAVE WILDFIRES, WE CAN HAVE MORE FLOODING AND DEVELOPMENT KEEPS COMING IN THE PICTURE. SO, UM, I'M AFRAID THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER. IF ANYTHING HAPPENS IN, UH, FIRST RESPONDERS NEED TO GET SENIORS OUT OF THERE IN A ONE WAY IN AND OUT. UM, I, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UM, FOR DONATING, I MEAN, FOR, UH, VOLUNTEERING, BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS CURB AND, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NICE AND THESE ARE SENIOR LIFE AND I MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT IS STAYING BY THERE. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK I WOULD LIKE TO, TO, UM, GET OUT WITH THE TRAFFIC COMING THAT FAST. I WOULD SUPPORT IT ALSO THE CITY TO GIVE, UH, SPEED BUMPS. I THINK SPEED BUMPS CAN HELP REDUCE THE TRAFFIC TO C AND A, THAT WILL MAKE IT A LOT SAFER FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, FRANCIS ML, SLOAN STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. NO, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MY NAME IS LEE SLOAN. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE KENSINGTON PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE ADAMANT ANY ZONING [04:00:01] OR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CHANGES FOR THIS TRACK. AND MOREOVER, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS OR CONTACT TEAMS FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS PARTICULAR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THREE BRIEF POINTS. FIRST. THIS IS AN ATTEMPT BY THE OWNER TO SIMPLY THE MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS OF HARD WORK THAT CITIZENS AND CITY STAFF, BUT IN, IN CRAFTING THE GOVERNING COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS FOR OUR AREA AND THAT EFFORT, THAT PARTICULAR ATTENTION WAS PAID TO THE LOW DENSITY, LOW HEIGHT ZONING TO PROTECT THE FRAGILE ECOSYSTEM OF SPRINGS AND CREEKS IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. AND THESE ARE FEATURES THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS FAR BACK AS 1984. SECOND POINT TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A NIGHTMARE ALONG THESE ROADS. AS ANNA MENTIONED, THE CURRENT TRAFFIC OVER THE MAXIMUM DESIGN CITY OF AUSTIN DETERMINED, SAFE LEVEL, AND THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD INCREASE THAT ON THOSE 12 TIMES THE, UH, DETERMINED, SAFE LEVEL, THIRD POINT. I KNOW THERE IS A DESIRE TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE MR. SLOW. I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. AND YOU'RE ALSO STARTED BREAKUP. UM, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE HANG ON FOR QUESTIONS, UH, AND THEN GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER RECEPTION IF YOU CAN. OKAY. MAYBE THEY'RE NOT WORKING NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JOHN CINNAMON IT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I THINK SO, SAY IT AGAIN. YEAH. JOHN, THIS IS JOHN SERMON. UM, OKAY, THANKS. GREAT. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU CHAIR. AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS INTENTIONS WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, BUT THE FACT THAT THIS WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WHICH WE WOULD SUPPORT OTHERWISE SHOULD NOT OVERRIDE OR DISMISS THE SAFETY CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE HAVE REAL CONTINUED CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, ON THE EXIT OF A BLIND CURVE. IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE LOCATION. AND IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF THE, THE BLIND CURVE LOCATION. AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SATISFIED THAT THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANES. SO THEY'RE GOING TO ADD RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT WOULD MAKE IT ANY SAFER, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO VIEWPOINT DRIVE JUST TO THE SOUTH. WOULD WE BUILD DEPARTMENTS JUST FOR THE SOUTH AND THE BLIND CURVE TO, TO THE NORTH. SO THANKS FOR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. UM, THE TORAH HOUSE HERE, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? GREAT. UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR A BOTTLE AND, AND I KNOW TRAFFIC ISSUES HERE ARE GNARLY AND KIND OF AT THE HEART OF THIS CASE IN MANY WAYS. AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT Q AND A, BUT, UM, BUT GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR REBUTTAL. YEP. OKAY. UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE MUCH NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, ON KNUCKLES CROSSING. UM, WE, WE SEE THAT WE RECOGNIZE IT AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE HAS THE ABILITY TO CATALYZE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE PAST, SO FREQUENTLY UPGRADED INFRASTRUCTURE AFTER THE FACT AFTER IT'S NEEDED. AND I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN THAT AROUND, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE WITH AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT COULD REALLY HELP THE CITY AS A WHOLE AND DOING THINGS LIKE CLEARING VEGETATION ALONE WILL HELP VISIBILITY AT THIS, AT THIS CORNER, BUT EVEN MORE. SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE TO IMPROVE THE CURRENT TRAFFIC CONDITIONS BY EXPANDING THE ROADWAY AND PROVIDING TURN LANES WHERE THERE AREN'T ANY TODAY. UM, AND WITH REGARDS TO VEHICULAR TRIPS, UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE WILL BE 200 LESS VEHICULAR TRIPS THAN A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALLS ATTENTION. AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT ALONG TO RON TO SEE IF HE HAS ANYTHING HE WANTS TO ADD COMMISSIONERS RON THROWER. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY WERE BROUGHT UP AND WE ARE HONORING AND RESPECTING ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY VARIANCES, THEY'RE STAYING IN PACT. AND AGAIN, IT'S 179 DEEPLY AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING UNITS, UM, AGES 55 AND UP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, TENNIS THAT WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 12 [04:05:01] YEARS OF WORKING IN THEIR LIVES, STILL MOVING FORWARD. UM, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I ONLY NEED THE EMF FOR, FOR ONE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATION. OTHER THAN THAT, JUST AS STAFF IS RECOMMENDED. AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR, UM, OUR ENGINEERS AND ATD ENGINEERS REGARDING THE, UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO MAKE THE CONDITION SAFE. BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, AFFORDABLE, UH, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES LESS VEHICLE TRIPS PER UNIT THAN AN APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. AND IN THE END, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ACCESS WILL HAPPEN. I THINK THAT THE SOLUTION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED FOR WHAT CAN BE DONE IN NECKLACE CROSSING TO ACCOMMODATE THIS TRAFFIC'S MITIGATION, AS WELL AS PASSING OVER YOUR TRAFFIC, ASK FOR Y'ALL SUPPORT ON THIS CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR SIR. UM, SO WE'RE GOING INTO QUESTIONS, A ROUND ROBIN, UM, I'LL START OFF. UH, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR FROM BOTH ATD AND, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING. UH, I AM HEARING ON ONE HAND THAT, UH, ATD HAS SAID THAT THIS PLAN MAKES THINGS SAFE. UM, BUT THEN I'M ALSO HEARING THAT BLENDING AND ZONING THINKS IT'S NOT SAFE ENOUGH TO RECOMMEND THE FULL ZONING TO . SO CAN, CAN WE RESOLVE THIS TENSION? CAN WE GET A LITTLE DISCUSSION ON THAT? UM, DO WE WANT TO START WITH, WITH ATD MAYBE? WHO DO WE, WHO DO WE HAVE FROM ATD ON THE LINE? THIS IS CURTIS BAY WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. UH, YES, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APP AND THEN YOU PAUSE YOU FOR ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY. I FORGOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT? A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR STICKLEBACK MR. SEEGER, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOOD. OKAY, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH, SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS CURTIS BEATTY WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO IDENTIFY DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS OR LOCATION. THAT IS ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 2018 AND THE 2020 STUDIES. THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL WAS DIFFERENT. AND ALSO THE PREVIOUS STUDIES WERE LOOKING AT MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS AND THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE HAVE WORKED TO IDENTIFY A LOCATION THAT IS ADEQUATE FOR SITE DISTANCE, BOTH IN THE HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL COMING AROUND THE SATAN ANIMAL CURVE. UH, IT IS ALSO AT A ADEQUATE DISTANCE FROM VIEWPOINT TO ALLOW SAFE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, THE DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE GOING NORTHBOUND ON KNUCKLES, CROSSING INTO THE PROPERTY AND THE DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE DIESEL LANE, GOING FROM SOUTHBOUND KNUCKLES CROSSING INTO THE PROPERTY IS ONE REASON WE WANT IT TO HAVE INCREASED SAFETY. SO AS PEOPLE ARE SLOWING DOWN TO GET INTO THE PROPERTY OR OUT OF THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE A DEDICATED LANE TO DO THAT, AND THEY CAN REMAIN OUT OF THE WAY OF ONCOMING TRAFFIC AND CAN MERGE, UH, SAFELY IN THAT DIRECTION. UH, WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY WHAT THAT, UH, THE SEPARATION IS GOING TO BE, HOW MUCH OF IT WOULD BE PHYSICAL, SUCH AS A RAISED CURB AND HOW MUCH COULD WE DO THROUGH OTHER OPTIONS SUCH AS STRIPING AND DELINEATORS, THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED THAT SITE PLAN ALSO, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROJECTED TO ADD ROUGHLY 980 TRIPS TO THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA THAT RAISES THE BALM ABOUT SIX AND A HALF PERCENT TO WHAT'S EXISTING IN THIS AREA. SO IT IS NOT AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING ADDED, BUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS A SUBSTANDARD ROAD, YES, IT WILL BE A NOTICEABLE, BUT TO REMIND IT STUFF STANDARD, IT DOES NOT MEET THE CURRENT STREET STANDARDS IN AUSTIN, UH, THAT TO DO SO WOULD BE A MAJOR PROJECT THAT WAS BEYOND THE REP PROPORTIONALITY CONTRIBUTION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO COME THROUGH A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT AND A CIP PROJECT WITH FUNDING IDENTIFIED AGAIN, A BOND INITIATIVE. CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM F TWO AND, AND HOW THAT RELATES TO, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES HERE? UH, THIS IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THE, THE APPLICANT REQUESTED MF FOUR AND OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR IMF TWO WAS BASED ON COMPATIBILITY [04:10:02] WITH, UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. SO, OKAY. SO IT WAS NOT BASED NECESSARILY ON TRAFFIC SAFETY? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SUPPORTING OBVIOUSLY THE NTA THAT WAS PREPARED BY ATD AND PRESENTING ONE RECOMMENDATION FOR MF TWO WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. OKAY, GREAT. AND CAN YOU SHARE KASI, WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING THAT TODAY ABOUT INTENDING PLANS FOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND UNCLE'S CROSSING? I KNOW THAT A, THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING INTO IT, BUT THAT'S ALL THAT'S AS FAR AS I GOT, UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SURE. SNYDER, GO AHEAD. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, FIRST, JUST TO CLARIFICATION FROM, UM, FROM PLANNING, UH, STAFF, UH, IS, IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF IS MAKING INLINE WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT SAYS THAT THEY NEED, OR ARE YOU ARE SORRY. OH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AS I HEAR IT IS FOR THEY DO NEED THE 60 FEET OF HEIGHT THAT'S ALLOWED BY MFR. HOWEVER, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ARE AMENABLE TO MF TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. I'M SORRY THAT LAST PART BROKE UP. IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WERE AMENABLE TO WHAT MS. MSQ DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OTHER THAN HEIGHT. OKAY. GOTCHA. OKAY. AND, UH, SORRY, SECOND QUESTION. UM, AND I THINK THIS IS FOR, UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, W WHAT, UM, WHAT CHANGES OR ACCOMMODATIONS OR PLANS ARE THERE FOR, UH, PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK AND, UH, BY ACCOMMODATIONS? YES. AGAIN, THIS IS CURTIS BEATTY, UH, ALONG THE PROPERTY FRONTAGE ITSELF THEY'LL WILL BE IN SIDEWALK. UH, MINIMUM REQUIRED, I BELIEVE IS FIVE FEET IN THIS AREA. D ASM P DOES REQUIRE SIDEWALKS AND BICYCLE FACILITIES. UH, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT IT WOULD NOT CONTINUE BEYOND THE PROPERTY ITSELF. AND TO, TO JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, UH, TO THE APPLICANT, UH, IS THERE, ARE THERE PLANS FOR, UH, PLACES FOR RESIDENTS TO WALK WITHIN THE PROPERTY? UH, LOOK LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF LAND THAT WAS BEING PRESERVED AS IS, IS THE PLAN TO DEVELOP, UH, RESIDENTS. YES. COMMISSIONER RON OVER HERE. I APOLOGIZE IF IT CUTS YOU OFF, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION USE WHEN WE DO STAR SIX. SO IT'S HARD TO TELL, UM, YES, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF AMENITIES ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, ANNA PODIO CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO A LOT OF THOSE, BUT YES, THERE WILL BE, HEY, LOT OF ACTIVITY AND WALKING TRAILS, UM, INCORPORATED INTO THIS DESIGN. ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS PART OF THE PROGRAM. THANKS. GO AHEAD. SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SO, UM, UH, LIKE WE, WE GOT TO SEE DETAILS ABOUT THE RBJ A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SUCH A HIGH DEMAND FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING FOR SENIORS, ESPECIALLY AS WE KINDA MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, INTO WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SO MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO THIS RETIREMENT AGE, HOW DOES THIS TIE IN WITH THAT SYSTEM? CAUSE, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SUCH A LARGE, UM, WAIT LIST FOR THAT. I MEAN, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO PEOPLE GET IN AS PART OF THE SYSTEM, AS A TIE WITH THE RBJ, UH, SYSTEM? I MEAN, HOW DOES THIS WORK, IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I APOLOGIZE. I WASN'T SURE WHO THAT WAS DIRECTED AT. UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT IN IRAN OR VICTORIA OR SOMEBODY, I MEAN, CAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE WHOLE SENIOR AFFORDABLE, UM, I SAID, I KNOW THE BIG NEED, BUT YOU KNOW, IS THIS TIED IN WITH HOW PEOPLE GO WITH THE RBJ CAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THE RBJ IS THIS A SEPARATE SYSTEM IS A QUARTER OF THE OLD ROLE? IS THIS, UM, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, AND HOW IT WORKS [04:15:01] WITH THE NEEDS OF, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER SHAY. I THINK WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AVAILABLE TOO. THERE'S AN OPTION. OKAY. I MEAN, IF THEY CAN, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE NEVER HAD ONE OF THESE COME IN FRONT OF US AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAID, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A VAST NEED CAUSE WITH THE RBJ THAT'S BEING MADE, WE FINISHED RENOVATING AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS THAT, THAT SIDE. AND HOW DO YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THIS TIE IN WITH HOW PEOPLE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE GET IN AND BE APPROVED FOR THE SYSTEM, IF IT'S POSSIBLE? I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF SOMEONE FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION JUST BECAUSE I'M, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, IF I'M ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YEAH. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PRIVATE SYSTEM OR NOT, AND IF IT'S PART OF THE PUBLIC SYSTEM, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE ENSURED THAT IT STAYS THAT WAY, YOU KNOW? UM, AGAIN, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THINGS AS REAL AS WE CAN. UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, IS THIS A PRIVATE OR IS THIS PART OF THE PUBLIC SYSTEM? I MEAN, SOMEBODY TELL US, MAY I SPEAK ON EXPLAIN THE INSTRUCTOR, THAT INSTRUCTOR FOR THIS DEAL? SURE. JUST, UM, ENLIGHTEN US A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW THIS WORKS. YES. SO THESE PROJECTS, UM, HAVE RECEIVED AN INDUCED LABOR SOLUTION FOR BONES FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, UH, AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR TAX CREDIT TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. UM, SO, AND ON TOP IT HAS, UM, A LOAN FROM THE HOUSING, UH, FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON AS WELL, UM, FOR $4 MILLION, UM, THEY ARE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WILL RUN WITH THE LAND THAT WILL, UM, ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS SR, THAT THE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS ARE, ARE, ARE RESPECTED. AND DURING THE DURATION OF THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO 40 YEARS RESTRICTED. UM, SO THERE'S NO MORE ASSURANCE THAT YOU CAN PROCEED FOR AFFORDABILITY THAN, THAN WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THIS PROJECT. THIS IS A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. AND, UM, THE, THE, THE, I DON'T, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER, SO THE, THE UNITS WAS FOR 40 YEARS AND EVERYTHING WILL BE, UM, UM, I AGREE IN THE NORA THAT WILL BE SIGNED OFF. SO THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETED. SUPER-QUICK CORRECTIONS CHAIR, THERE'S MULTIPLE FOLKS THAT ARE RESPONDING. CAN WE GET THEM TO SAY WHO THEY ARE? SO, UM, YEAH, AS WE GO FORWARD HERE, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT CLEAR, UH, WHO YOU'RE DIRECTING YOUR QUESTION TO AND, UM, UH, AND WE'LL TRY AND SORT THROUGH THAT IF EVERYBODY ELSE CAN BE MUTED. MR. ANDERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? THIS QUESTION? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, SO I CAN'T HELP WITH THE DIRECTION HERE, BUT CAN SOMEBODY SHARE HOW MANY UNITS PER ACRE ARE ALLOWED UNDER EXISTING ENTITLEMENTS AND HOW MANY UNITS PER ACRE WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD UNDER THE NEWS ZONING, UH, UNDER, UNDER SF TO, UH, THING ZONING RIGHT NOW, UH, PER ACRE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY SIX, SIX PLUS PAPER, HALF, SIX AND A HALF. AND UNDER, UH, MF FOUR, WHICH IS PROPOSED, IT IS, UH, UP TO 54 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S A MAXIMUM IT'S G IT'S BETWEEN 36 AND 54. CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MAYBE THIS IS MORE FOR THE APPLICANT. COULD YOU SHARE WHAT COULD BE VERSUS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUILD? IF YOU'RE STILL ON A, I BELIEVE [04:20:01] MF TWO IS 20 UNITS PER ACRE, AND I BELIEVE THIS SITE IS LOOKING FOR 18 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. YOU MAY HAVE TO ALLOWS ABOUT 20 UNITS PER ACRE AND OUR PROPOSAL IS THAT ROUGHLY 18 UNITS PER ACRE. SO, UH, IF I CAN CONTINUE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S LINE OF QUESTIONING HERE, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, I'M TRYING TO SORT THROUGH, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING HERE, BUT, UM, THE MF TWO PLUS WHAT YOU GETTING THROUGH AFFORDABILITY AND LOCK TAKES CARE OF IT, EXCEPT FOR THE HEIGHT. SO YOU NEED, UH, THE MF FOR HEIGHT. SO THE, UH, THE MOTION THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IS BASICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO, WITHIN THAT FOUR HEIGHT, WHICH TRANSLATES INTO EMF FOUR WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR ALL OTHER ENTITLEMENTS, EXCEPT FOR HEIGHT TO BE EQUAL TO NF TWO. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. UH, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS HERE IN THE ROUND, ROBIN GOING A LITTLE OFF TRACK HERE, BUT, UH, CRUSHERS ARE, GO AHEAD. SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE AFRICAN, UM, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THAT MAYBE IN THE MF DOING IT BEFORE? UH, YES. RON THROWER AGAIN, UH, THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE TAKING A FLOOR OFF OF THE BUILDING AND THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT 36 TO 38 UNITS. AND, UM, IF WE CAN'T GET TO 67 FEET, THAT'S HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE LOST OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT PLANT. UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION. THIS IS FOR EDD STAFF. HOPEFULLY THEY CAN HELP ME FIGURE THIS OUT. SO NOTHING'S CROSSING HERE AND DON'T SEE AN ELMO IS NOT ON THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK MAP. CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT AGAIN? THIS IS CURTIS WITH BEATTY, WITH ATD. UH, THE CRITERIA FOR THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK IS THERE'S, UH, SOME THRESHOLDS, THEY HAVE TO BE MADE SO MANY ACCIDENTS, SO MANY TYPES OF ACCIDENTS WITHIN A TIME PERIOD. AND HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH OTHER ROADWAYS AND NOT BEING ON THE HIGH ENERGY HIGH INJURY NETWORK JUST SIMPLY APPLIES. IT'S NOT RANKING AS HIGH AS ON THE STREETS IN TERMS OF, UH, ACCIDENTS AND CRASHES, UM, FOR THE QUESTIONS FOR ETD, WOULD THERE BE ANY CONSIDERATION IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL, WOULD THE SORT OF MIDDLE TURNING LANE RIGHT OVER HERE, WOULD THERE BE A CONSIDERATION OF HAVING SOME SORT OF PEDESTRIAN CROSSING HERE AND KNUCKLES TO GET, DO THE SIDEWALK ACCESS ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE, IS THAT WHO WAS THAT DIRECTED AT AND SOMEBODY FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR ANYONE WHO CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FROM STAFF, WE WOULD EVALUATE THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. UH, WHEN WE DO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AT THIS SITUATION, WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT AN ENHANCED CROSSING. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT AT TIME OF SITE PLAN, AND THEN ALSO COMPARE THE COST OF THAT WITH THE, UH, THE RUSH ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, UM, LIMITS. GOOD QUESTION, I GUESS, FOR FEED BUMPS, I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUGGESTED AS WELL ON THIS SITE. IS THAT SOMETHING ATD IS LOOKING INTO OR WOULD LOOK INTO SEEING IF WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF SPEED BUMPS ON NOVELS. UH, THE OVERALL SPEED MANAGEMENT PROGRAM BEING INITIATED BY BIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT ROADWAYS AND WHICH ONES NEED SPEED MITIGATION. AND UNDER THE OLD, UH, I LIKE PM PROGRAM. THE CRITERIA FOR SPEED BUMP. THE LIMITS HAD TO BE BELOW AT, OR BELOW 30 MILES PER HOUR. SO UNDER THE GENERAL GUIDELINES ST. ELMO CROSSING, WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT. I KNOW WITH DIFFERENT FOLKS HAVE KIND OF ASKED THIS QUESTION AND I'LL JUST SORT OF ASK IT AGAIN. THIS IS ON THE SIDEWALK PRIORITIZATION MAP, THE EAST SLASH NORTH SIDE, AS A GROUP, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED HIGH, MEDIUM ON THE WEST SLASH SOUTH SIDE, HIGH OR MEDIUM ON THE BAR, PRETTY HIGH IN ONE SIDE. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF ADDING THAT SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE? LET'S, LET'S GO WITH THE ONE THAT IS HIGH, [04:25:02] THE SIDEWALK ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY. ON THE WEST SIDE, THEY WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF THEIR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ON THE WEST SIDE. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS ON THE WEB. I DID NOT HEAR THAT LAST DIGIT ALL YOU'VE GOT OUT. CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT AGAIN? NO PROBLEM. GET THE SPEAKER, THE PROPERTY ON THE SIDEWALK ON THEIR PROPERTY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET, WE CAN CONSIDER IT. SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO AGAINST ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO SEE WHAT RIGHT AWAY IS AVAILABLE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, SO WE'VE GONE AROUND A LOT. UH, THE, UM, I THINK IF THIS CASE DOES MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME WORK THAT THE APPLICANT COULD MAYBE DO WITH, UH, WITH ATD AND ANY COMING UP WITH, UM, UH, SPEED LIMIT CHANGES IN THE, IN THE LIGHT OF, OF, UH, OR IN THE BAIN OF, OF SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THAT WOULD MAYBE QUALIFY THIS ROADWAY FOR SPEED HUMPS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SPEED LIMIT IS AN ISSUE THERE. AND THEN IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD WELCOME A LOWERING OF THE SPEED LIMIT THERE. UM, SO, UH, DO WE NEED TO GO FOR MORE QUESTIONS OR DOES SOMEONE HAVE A MOTION? I'M SURE IT, OUR GO AHEAD. I WILL MOVE ON. I HAVE TO REQUEST, UH, I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD. UM, I'M GOING TO OFFER A, A SUBSTITUTE ON THAT ONE, UM, RATHER THAN FOR, UH, I'D LIKE TO OFFER IN A FOUR BASED ZONING WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, FOR MF TWO ZONING FOR ALL ENTITLEMENTS, BUT HEIGHT. UM, THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO PRETTY MUCH. I HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, PRETTY MUCH WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, BUT IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT OF HIGH AT WHICH I THINK, UH, YOU'RE CONSIDERING, UM, SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THIS OFFERS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, IS, UH, IS, IS A BRIDGE WE CAN CROSS. SO, UM, THAT'S ME SPEAKING TO MY MOTION. UH, SOMEBODY WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST IT? GO AHEAD. NEVERMIND. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECOND AT ME. OH MY GOD. IT'S JUST AWFUL. COME ON, COS I THOUGHT WE'RE DONE WITH CEO'S EVERY CEO'S OFF OF THEIR OWN LITTLE ZONING CATEGORY AND ANOTHER CODE AND A WHOLE NOTHER THING TO WORRY ABOUT. LET'S BE DONE WITH CEO'S ALREADY TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE AND 100% FOR ORIGINAL MOTION AND CEO'S ARE YES, THE WORST AND I'M READY TO STOP HAVING CS. ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? MR. SNYDER, GO AHEAD. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERN THAT I CAN APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS RAISED. UM, I'VE FACED SIMILAR PROBLEMS PERSONALLY ON MY STREET. UH, EVENTUALLY WE GOT A SIDEWALK, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT TO REMIND IF YOU DON'T OR TELL YOU, IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT HAVE MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS, AUSTIN, AS THE FASTEST GROWING, UH, POPULATION AGE 55 TO 64 AND THE SECOND FASTEST POPULATION ABOVE AGE 65. AND LIKE WE THINK ABOUT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE WORK TO PRESERVE OUR HISTORIC SITES, WHERE WE INSURE OUR PARKS, WHERE WE DO WHAT WE CAN. UM, THERE, I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING, UH, PROPERTY IN 77, 44, THERE ARE PLENTY ACROSS 35 AND 45, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'D BE, UH, IN FOUR, FOUR AS PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AGE, IDEALLY THEY GET TO LIVE WHERE THEY'VE ALWAYS LIVED AND THEY GET TO MOVE DOWN THE STREET TO, UM, AN AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING FACILITY WHERE THEY CAN BE NEAR THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS. I WOULD LIKE TO URGE ATD AND THE APPLICANT AND THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER HOW TO IMPROVE WALKABILITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW TO, UH, HOW TO ENSURE SAFETY ON THE STREET. BUT I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A GOOD MOTION AND I'M SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UH, OTHER SPEAKERS AGAINST THE MOTION, OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OR CUSHION OR SHAW, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST JULIET? THAT'S OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, JUST, UH, THIS IS, I MEAN, THIS IS THE 10TH ALL THE WAY AROUND PUR COMMISSIONER SHUTTERS, [04:30:01] UH, REMARKS. WE DESPERATELY NEED, UM, THIS KIND OF HOUSING, BUT IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AREA IN THE MIDDLE OF AN SFU NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ISSUES. IT'S NOT REALLY ON ANY TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK OF ANY KIND OR QUESTION THIS DENSITY, BUT IT IS A NEED. SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO, IT IS A BALANCING ACT. SO THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. THANKS. OKAY. UH, KOSHER, CAUSE IT, GO AHEAD. UM, CHAIR, BEFORE I, UM, SPEAK IN FAVOR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION INCLUDES THE NPA, UM, BOTH FROM YOU AND FROM COMMISSIONER SNYDER. YES. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FOR SURE. SNYDER. YES. UM, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK. IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS CASE. YOU KNOW, WE SAW IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND A LOT OF WORK, UH, FRAUD ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT. THEY T I N A T D UM, ON THE, ON ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, UM, A LOT OF WORK WITH, UH, WITH THE TAX CREDITS AND WITH THE RSDA PROGRAM AT THE CITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS LOOK AT IT VERY CAREFULLY, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND SO ON. IT'S ALL VERY CAREFULLY CALIBRATED. UM, THE 4% TAX CREDITS, UM, HAVE SORT OF, THEY RUN THEIR INDIVIDUAL, UM, TIMELINES AND, UH, THEY, UH, THE TDAC DOES NOT MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION UNTIL THE ZONING IS, IS GRANTED. SO I KNOW THAT THIS HAS A TIMELINE OF ITSELF. AND SO I WOULD, UH, UM, VERY STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS. ALRIGHT. THAT'S YOU'RE SPEAKING IN FAVOR. SURE, SURE. SO ALSO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WILL TELL YOU, UH, IT OWED TO ALL OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID PREVIOUSLY REGARDING THE CHALLENGE RELATED TO DEVELOPING TAX CREDITS AND THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE IS QUITE A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, PARTICULARLY IN THE REALM OF SENIORS. I WILL TELL YOU, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY SENIOR HOUSING AT ALL, AND WE'VE DEVELOPED QUITE A BIT. SO TO SEE SUCH A THING IS AS VERY WELCOME. UM, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I THINK THAT BURNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND THE LIGHT WILL BE SOME SOUNDS LIKE WILL BE WORKED OUT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WE SUPPORT THAT SORT OF THING BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. AND A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE TOWARD THAT END. AND I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF THEM. AND SO I THINK I SEE NO REASON TO NOT SUPPORT THIS. ALRIGHT, FINAL SPEAKER AGAINST THE MOTION, JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS JUST FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, RIGHT? THIS IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR OTHERWISE ENOUGH TO ENTITLEMENTS BESIDES THE HEIGHT AND THE MPA THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THAT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SEEKER WANTED TO SPEAK? I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU. SHOULD I SECRET JEWISH SPEAK NEUTRALLY OR AGAINST THE MOTION? I CHANGED MY MIND. UM, UM, I'M AFRAID I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF. WE'VE HAD THREE SPEAKERS ALREADY. OH, OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS. LET'S TAKE A VOTE, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ALL IN FAVOR GREEN AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT. 11 ZERO. UM, DID WE LOSE? WE LOST. WE NEVER HAD CLEAR. NO, WE HIT CONDITIONS. WHAT WE'RE STILL MISSING. OH, WAIT, NO TRANSPOSE MY SQUARE UP THERE. AND THAT MAKES 12. GOTCHA. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, LAST DISCUSSION CASE THAT EVENING, IT IS CLOSING IN ON 11 O'CLOCK. UH, DID YOU GO, UH, FOUR [B11. Rezoning: C14-2020-0056 - Wickersham Retail Center; District 3] 45 44, THE OLD TOURIST STREET, THE 11TH WHO WE GOT SIGNED UP HERE. UM, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A, AN APPLICANT AND TO OPPOSE, UM, B 11, C 14, 2020 ZERO ZERO FIVE SIX WORKER SHAM RETAIL CENTER, UH, 45 44 EAST OLD TOURIST STREETS, CAPE CLARK. DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY. YES, SIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? [04:35:01] WE CAN'T LET HIM CLEAR. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS KATE CLARK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. AGAIN, THIS IS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE SIX WICKERSHAM RETAIL CENTER. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 45 44 EAST ALTAR STREET, AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1.96 ACRES IN SIZE. IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH INTERSECTION OF WICKERSHAM LANE AND EAST OLD WORTH. AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY BASE ZONING ON ALL SIDES. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS YET TO REQUEST TO REZONE, TO GR TO CHANGE THE CONDITION OF THEIR YOUTH, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THE, UM, UM, TO ALLOW FOR DRIVING SERVICE AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE COMMERCIAL USES, UM, THE CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES THE GR DISTRICT AS INTENDED FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY NEEDS, WHICH TYPICALLY REQUIRES LOCATIONS ACCESSIBLE TO MAJOR TRAFFIC WAYS. THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN CLASSIFIES BOTH AND WICKERSHAM LANE IS LEVEL THREE STREETS. AND THIS PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THEM. REZONING. THIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR THE DRIVE IN SERVICE HAS AN ACCESSORY USE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THIS SPACE ZONING DISTRICT. ALSO, IF THIS REZONING REQUEST IS GRANTED, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CARRY OVER ALL EXISTING PROHIBITED USES THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. AND THESE USES WERE INCLUDED IN MY COMMENT SECTION IN THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU'RE MUTED. WE DON'T HAVE EITHER OF THE OPPOSING SPEAKERS, BUT DO WE HAVE JIM WITLESS, THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE ALL. ALRIGHT. CAN YOU CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND I AM REPRESENTING WICKERSHAM ENTERPRISES, LLC. JIM YOU'RE VERY VAIN. CAN, CAN YOU, UH, ARE YOU ON SPEAKER PHONE? OKAY. HEY, CAN YOU SPEAK OR ONE SECOND? I HOPE THIS WILL BE BETTER. THAT'S MUCH BETTER FOR WICKERSHAM ENTERPRISES, LLC, IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19 WE'RE ALL TRYING TO HELP IN OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. IN THIS REGARD, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU RECONSIDER THE VALUE THAT DRUGS FROM FACILITIES CAN PLAY MAKING OUR LIVES SAFER. COVID-19 PANDEMIC DRIVE. SOME SERVICE HAS BECOME A NECESSARY COMPONENT OF MANY RETAIL BUSINESSES. UH, I'LL PROBABLY BRIEF QUOTES FOR YOU THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. UH, THE FIRST ONE IS FROM MARCH 5TH, 2019, WHICH WAS A YEAR BEFORE COGAN BEFORE ANY OF US EVER HEARD THE WORD COHORT, THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM STATED THE FREQUENCY OF DISEASE OUTBREAKS HAS BEEN RISING STEADILY EACH MONTH. THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION TRUCKS 7,000 NEW SIGNALS OF POTENTIAL OUTBREAKS GENERATING 300 FOLLOWUPS, 30 INVESTIGATIONS AND 10 FULL RISK ASSESSMENT. LET US JUNE. THIS IS JUNE, 2019, NOT THIS YEAR FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY OUTBREAKS OF SIX OF THE EIGHT CATEGORIES FOR DISEASE WHOSE PRIORITY DISEASE LIST WERE IDENTIFIED. THIS IS NINE MONTHS BEFORE COVID OR AGAIN, CAN YOU GO BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING AT THE BEGINNING? OKAY. UH, YOU PUT YOU BACK ON SPEAKER. NO, NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS REAL GOOD. JUST, JUST NOW. OKAY. OKAY. IN MARCH, 2020, THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM WROTE COVID-19 IS PART OF A PATTERN OF INCREASINGLY FREQUENT EPIDEMICS THAT OF THEFT COINCIDED WITH GLOBALIZATION URBANIZATION AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AS SOCIETY BECOMES MORE CONNECTED, COLLABORATION AND COOPERATION WILL BE NEEDED TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF FUTURE EPIDEMICS AS CORONAVIRUS SPREADS. SO THERE'S A SOBERING REALITY THAT ACADEMIC EPIDEMICS WILL BECOME MORE COMMON WITH HER INCREASINGLY CONNECTED AGE. AND OUR GLOBAL SOCIETY OUTBREAKS OF INFECTIOUS DISEASE CAN MOVE FROM A REVOKED FROM A REMOTE VILLAGE TO A MAJOR CITY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD IN UNDER 36 HOURS, UNDERSTANDING THIS NEW REALITY WILL BE KEY TO REDUCING [04:40:01] THE RISK OF FUTURE EPIDEMICS. BASED ON THIS NEW REALITY, WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE, PROACTIVE IN OUR DESIGN OF THIS SITE, WHICH INCLUDES RECONSIDERING THE VALUE THAT A DRIVE THROUGH FACILITY TO PLAY AND MAKE YOU LIFE SAFER. AS WE'VE LEARNED FROM THE CURRENT KOBE CRISIS, DRIVE THROUGH SERVICES ARE SOMETIMES NOT ONLY A MATTER OF CONVENIENCE, THEY CAN ALSO BE COME A MATTER OF NECESSITY TO PRO TO PRESERVE HEALTH AND COMMERCE. UH, THE CDC SAYS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BUSINESSES CAN DO TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF CORONAVIRUS DISEASE IS TO PROVIDE REMOTE SHOPPING ALTERNATIVES, SUCH AS DELIVERY PICKUP, AND DRIVE THROUGH SERVICES. I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE SUPPORT THIS, UH, ZONING CHANGE TO DELETE THE CEO FOR DRIVE THROUGH, TAKE YOU JIM. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE LINE. TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL IF YOU WANT TO USE IT. UM, UM, I SPOKE WITH ALL THE FOLKS THAT WROTE IN AND WERE IN OPPOSITION, ESPECIALLY I WAS INTERESTED IN TALKING TO THE PEOPLE AT MONACO CONDOMINIUMS THERE, JASON, UH, THERE WERE TWO LETTERS. YOU HAVE ONE FROM ALAN STEVENS. HE AND I SPOKE FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR YESTERDAY. AND I'D SAY THAT OUR CONVERSATION FINISHED ON A VERY, VERY POSITIVE NOTE. UH, HE WAS VERY GLAD TO TALK WITH ME. I ALSO SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY WITH MALCOLM GATES FROM, UH, THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLTORF COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND MALCOLM JUST SAID THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH BUSINESS IS GOING TO CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR BIKE RIDERS. I HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH LANE IN THE QUEUING LANES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE BIKE RIDERS WOULD BE. UH, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT THAT MEANS. UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER WOMAN WHO IS A PRESIDENT OF THE MONACO HOA, AND SHE STATED THAT, UH, UH, SHE ALSO WAS CONCERNED ABOUT PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS. AND AGAIN, UM, A DRIVE FROM SERVICE IS GOING TO BE SEGREGATED FROM PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC. I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A DANGER THERE. UH, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. I, I, I HOPE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT. UH, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A CUSTOMER CONVENIENCE. WE'RE LOOKING TO LET, TO CREATE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY AS OPPOSED IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE SAFE SHOPPING FOR PEOPLE. AND IT'S BOTH FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. WHAT'S YOUR SECRET? GO AHEAD. UH, YEAH. OKAY. MOTION VOTE. CLOSE. THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO I HAVE ONE OF THOSE FROM A CUSHION OR SRES SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEEGER. ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. UH, AND THEN LET'S, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I MOVED TO EXTEND IT TO THE EXTEND THE TIMES AND I, I KNOW, UH, UH, I PROMISE YOU WE CAN GET TO RESTRICT IMPACT FEES IN LIKE 15 MINUTES. SO LET'S, LET'S DO, UH, 1125. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR 25. MR. SEEGER ON FAVOR GO GREEN. OKAY. OKAY. MISSIONARY KASI IS AS USUAL UNHELPFUL AS HIS COMMISSIONER SHEA. UH, KESHER HOWARD IS ALSO UNHELPFUL, SO THAT IS NINE TO THREE, UH, CHRIS OR SEEGER. GO AHEAD. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. WHITLAM ON THE REQUEST. IT SAYS THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST A CHANGE. A CONDITION OF THE OVERLAY IN THAT IS TO PERMIT DRIVE IN USE. IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN THE UNITS PER ACRE OR ANY OF THE USES THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS, CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME? YES. JUST TALK LOUD. I'M SORRY. I'M NEW TO THIS SITE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DONE WAS DONE BY A DIFFERENT OWNER. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO DO A MUCH SMALLER PROJECT THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED. A LOT LESS SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING TWO APARTMENTS, NOT 36 APARTMENTS. AND THE TWO APARTMENTS HE WANTS TO DO [04:45:01] IS FOR HIS FAMILY. SO IS THAT A NO MR. RATLIFF? UM, THERE, THERE ARE, UM, I THOUGHT THE 10 YEAR YOU'RE CUTTING, YOU'RE CUTTING IN AND OUT. WHAT CHANGES WERE THERE. AND THE QUESTION IS, IS, IS MR. LAYLA, ARE YOU SEEKING ANY OTHER CHANGE OTHER THAN THE CHANGE IN CONDITIONAL USE? ARE YOU SEEKING TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN OR ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT? NO. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY, GREAT. UH, WELL, HOLD ON. LET'S, LET'S GET TO COMMISSIONER SHAY FIRST, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, I MEAN, I GUESS SO MAYBE I MISSED IT WHEN I WAS, UH, I MEAN, W SO THE DRIVE THROUGH IS FOR WHAT KIND OF FUNCTION, I MEAN, IS IT, I MEAN, CAUSE RIGHT NOW GR ALLOWS RESTAURANT LIMITED AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER BOTH USES, BUT IT'S, IS IT, DID, DID YOU SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE DRAG THROUGH IS FOR WHICH KIND OF USE A CONVENIENCE STORE, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH WHAT DELL, DELL WITH THEM, WITH THE DELI? I MEAN, I GUESS THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE SOME OF THESE BASTARDS RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW IS, UM, THEY ARE LITERALLY, PEOPLE ARE BACKED UP EVEN DOING THIS COVERED TIME, THEY'RE BACKED UP AND THEY'RE BLOCKING THE MAIN ROADS THEY'RE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS. UM, LIKE I DRIVE THROUGH AND I SEE IT, YOU KNOW, JUST WALKING THE WHOLE, LIKE LAMAR OR BURNETT, AND I'M LIKE, I CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE STORE. I'M TRYING TO GET TO. AND SO I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK WITH THE, UM, WITH PICKUP AND STUFF, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PLACES THAT ARE STILL DOING PICKUP SHE'LL DRIVE UP AND THEN I'LL BRING IT UP. AND DURING THIS PELVIC TEMPS, THEY'RE NOT BLOCKING THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN ROAD AND ALL EVERYBODY ELSE'S DRIVEWAY, DRIVEWAYS. I MEAN, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TELL ME ABOUT AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN HELP PREVENT THIS? BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE QUEUING AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM. UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF IT'S LIKE A LOW USE TYPE OF DRIVE THROUGH, I CAN SEE A WORKING BY THIS GETS SUPER POPULAR. I MEAN, BLOCKING OLD FOR IT. SO I KNOW, WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, AND KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WHAT'S THE STOP. OH, WHAT'S THE STOP P TERRY'S FROM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ONCE THEY GIVE YOU THIS USE WHAT'S TO STOP THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FROM BEING ABLE TO COME HERE ONCE YOU GET TO YOU. THAT'S MY, SO, UM, I GUESS IT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE, UM, PROFIT LIMIT THAT WE HAVE ON THE SITE, WHICH IS 2000 TRIPS A DAY. I DON'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT WITH A . YEAH. OKAY. NOTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBOR. OKAY. UH, SOUNDS LIKE, UH, NOTHING IS THE ANSWER THERE. UM, I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE ERRONEOUSLY HAD, UH, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS AGAINST, ON LIKE A DIFFERENT PHONE NUMBER OR SOMETHING. UM, I HAVE TO, CAN I GET A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN HEAR FROM ONE OF THE CENTERS MOTION BY SHAY SECOND BY SEGER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, GREEN, GREEN, GREEN, GREEN, GREEN. OKAY. AND THEN WE NEED TO, UH, TAKE A VOTE AGAINST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, I GUESS. UH, SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PUBLIC CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, NONE ALL AGAIN, UH, PATRICIA, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY WHO'S TERRIBLY SHARES, BIZARRE. UM, BUT AS YOU, OKAY, UH, NOW CAN WE GET MALCOLM ON THE LINE? MALCOLM YATES REVERE PROMISED ME HE WAS ON THE LINE. OH, THIS IS MALCOLM YATES. CAN YOU HEAR ME, MR. GATES? WE CAN, WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU'RE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT. IF YOU'RE ON SPEAKER PHONE, CAN YOU GET ON REGULAR PHONE? [04:50:01] OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IS THIS BETTER? THAT'S MUCH BETTER. GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT. THIS IS MALCOLM YATES. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE IRAQ NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA CONTACT TEAM. THE CONTACT TEAM HAS VOTED TO OPPOSE THIS CHANGE FOR SEVERAL REASONS. UM, I WILL BE REFERRING TO THE PRESENTATION ON THE PDF FILE THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE WITH YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS. UM, RIGHT NOW I'M ON THE FIRST SLIDE NOW TO THE SECOND SLIDE. UH, THIS SECOND SLIDE SHOWS WICKERSHAM HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS A HEALTHY STREET BY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. THIS MEANS THAT THIS MEANS THAT ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION IS ENCOURAGED ON THE STREET INSTEAD OF CARS. NOW THE THIRD SLIDE, THIS SHOWS THE WICKERSHAM OLTORF INTERSECTION. THIS THERE ARE BIKE LANES ON BOTH STREETS, ALLOWING DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE AT THIS INTERSECTION WILL CREATE A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR BIKE RIDERS. THE FOURTH SLIDE IS A MAP OF THE SECTION OF WESTBOUND OLD TOUR BETWEEN MONTOPOLIS AND WICKERSHAM. THIS SECTION IS OVER ONE MILE LONG OF STRAIGHT ROAD. THERE ARE NO CROSS SECTION CROSS STREETS OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC. THE SPEED IS 45 MILES PER HOUR. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE WESTBOUND ON THE WICKERSHAM INTERSECTION. CARS ARE APPROACHING THIS INTERSECTION AT OVER 40 MILES PER HOUR, DUE TO THE ONE MILE STRAIGHT SHOT FROM ON TOP WESTBOUND CARS, CREST A HILL JUST BEFORE THE INTERSECTION, WHICH LIMITS THE TIME TO REACT TO A CAR ENTERING FULL TOUR FROM THE DRIVE THROUGH EXIT ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ACCIDENTS ON THIS INTERSECTION ALLOWING TO DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE AT THIS PROPERTY IS DANGEROUS FOR CARS ALSO. THANK YOU, MR. YATES. THAT'S UH, THAT'S COMPELLING TESTIMONY. UM, DO YOU HAVE OTHER DETAILS? UH, CAUSE IT'S VERY COMPELLING. UM, WELL, OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER PART WAS THAT THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AGREED IN 2012 TO A PRIOR ZONING CHANGE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS TO DISRUPT THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND NOW THE OWNER WANTS TO RENEGE ON THIS PROMISE. RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. YATES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC, HEARING A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS. UM, UH, WE'RE STILL IN ROUND ROBIN. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEGER AND LET'S SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. UH, OLTORF HERE IS, IS ALL AGES, ALL ABILITIES, BICYCLE NETWORK. WE HAVE LOCAL BEST SERVICE ON, UH, BOTH LIQUOR, SHAM AND OLD TOUR. I'VE HEARD THE TESTIMONY FROM, UH, FROM MR. GATES THERE ABOUT PRIOR, UH, SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE REZONING HERE. UM, THIS, THIS DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A DRIVE THROUGH INTERSECTION HERE AND, AND, UH, CONSIDERING THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY IS MAKING AND HEALTHY STREETS. UH, THIS JUST SEEMS LIKE THE WRONG PLACE FOR A DRIVE THROUGH. UM, THAT'S WHAT I'LL SAY IN FAVOR CITY ONE. WE WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION. ANYONE I'M GONNA SPEAK IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. HEARING NOTHING. UH, UH, COMMISSIONER COSMIC, GO AHEAD. I'LL JUST BE VERY BRIEF, UH, COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T THINK THIS WILL BE THE LAST CASE THAT WE HEAR ABOUT SUPPORT FOR DRIVE THROUGHS BECAUSE OF COVID. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY SEE A LOT MORE. OKAY. ANY OTHERS WHICH SPEAK AGAINST OR IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION ANGRY AND GREEN, GREEN SHAMING UNANIMOUS. OKAY. SO THAT IS A 11 ZERO, UH, MOTION IS DENIED. UM, ALL RIGHT. [B22. Code Amendment Street Impact Fee Program] LET'S MOVE ON THE STREET IMPACT FEES. UH, I APOLOGIZE. UM, WE WERE LATE AND, UH, I'M SORRY. AB STEPS. COULD WE BRING UP THE, UH, THE DECK FROM THE BACKUP? [04:55:02] UM, WE WERE LATE IN GETTING ALL THE DIFFERENT THREADS TOGETHER ON THIS. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A DECK, UH, SUMMARIZING THE, UM, THE WORKING GROUPS DELIBERATIONS. IT DOESN'T REALLY COME IN THE FORM OF A RECOMMENDATION SO MUCH AS, AS MUCH AS, UH, OPTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION. UH, AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT'S KINDA HARD TO EVALUATE ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITHOUT KIND OF VIEWING THEM IN TOTAL. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE THROUGH IT AND THEN, UM, GO BACK AND, AND, UH, UM, I THINK TAKE A BASE MOTION AND THEN, UH, IN THE LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THIS, TAKE A TIC AMENDMENT SO THAT WE CAN DEBATE THOSE ASPECTS OF IT ONE BY ONE. UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO SLIDE TWO. UM, SO THIS IS JUST EXPLAINING, UH, THE, HOW THIS THING WORKS. UM, SO DEVELOPMENT UNITS ARE BASED ON THE LAND USE TYPE AND THEN ALL THE DIFFERENT SERVICE AREAS IN THE CITY HAVE A FEE PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT THAT IS BASED ON, THEY TOOK THE TOTAL CAPITAL COSTS OF BUILDING OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORK AND THAT SERVICE AREA DIVIDED IT BY THE EXPECTED TRIPS THAT WERE GOING TO BE GENERATED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT AND CAME UP WITH THE, A FEE PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT FOR EACH SERVICE AREA IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH SERVICE AREA AND EVERY PART OF TOWN. THERE'S ALSO VMT. THEY CALCULATED IT PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT INSIDE THE LOOP AND OUTSIDE THE LOOP. SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE HAS THE VMT IT'S IS EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED INSIDE THE LOOP. AND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HAS A BMT EXPECTED TO BE GENERATED OUTSIDE THE LOOP, DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMERCIAL, EVERYTHING THAT LINES UP WITH IT, AND THE WAY THEY DO ITA S A M OR I'M SORRY, A TIA IS, UH, SO THE COLLECTED FEE EQUALS THE FEE FOR DEVELOPMENT UNIT FOR THAT SERVICE AREA, WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THAT SERVICE AREA TIMES THE NUMBER OF DEVELOPMENT UNITS, RESIDENTIAL, IT'S GOING TO BE UNITS FOR COMMERCIAL. IT'S GOING TO BE SQUARE FEET, UH, TIMES THE VMT FOR THAT UNIT, WHICH AGAIN IS DIFFERENT FOR INSIDE THE LOOP AND OUTSIDE THE LOOP ONLY. SO, UH, THE UNIQUE THINGS HERE ARE THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEE FOR EACH SERVICE AREA BASED ON BASICALLY THE COST TO BUILD OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORK FOR THAT AREA. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER UNIQUE THING IS THAT THERE'S A VMT FOR EACH KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROJECTED FOR INSIDE THE LOOP AND OUTSIDE THE LOOP GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THESE ARE THE SERVICE AREAS. THIS IS ALL STUFF WE'VE SEEN BEFORE. THESE ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL. THEY'RE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION, THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. UM, BUT, UH, THE INTERESTING THINGS TO NOTE HERE THAT, UH, UH, SERVICE AREA K THERE TO YOUR LEFT AS I'M THE RED, BUT I'LL BRIDGE. AND THAT'S WHY IT IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF TOWN AND DOWNTOWN THERE, UH, HAS THE MOST KIND OF COMPLETELY BUILT OUT ROADWAY NETWORK. SO IT HAS A FAIRLY LOW FEE PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE VAGARIES OF HOW BUILT OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORKS ARE IN THIS AREA. THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT A LOT OF CONSISTENCY BETWEEN INSIDE THE LOOP OR OUTSIDE THE LOOP IN TERMS OF HOW FEAR, HOW HIGH OR LOW THE FEE IS DURING THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, TO ILLUSTRATE THAT POINT, UM, YOU'LL SEE HERE, UH, THE SURFACE AREA IS LABELED IN THE LEFT COLUMN. DO WE HAVE INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE LOOP? I WENT AHEAD AND LABELED THEM FOR WHEN THEY CONTAIN DISPLACEMENT AREAS, UH, AS, AS, UH, IDENTIFIED BY THE UPROOTED STORY, A STUDY. AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UH, THE MAXIMUM, UM, SINGLE FAMILY EITHER UNDER, UH, THE MAX STUDY FEE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE STATUTORY MAXIMUM THAT CAN BE CHARGED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT UNIT IN THAT PART OF TOWN, BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING LET'S TAKE THE COST OF THAT ROADWAY NETWORK, HOW MANY BMTS THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS GENERATED IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE IN THAT AREA. AND THAT IS ITS SHARE OF BUILDING OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORK IN EACH AREA. SO IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO SEE HERE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RHYME OR REASON BETWEEN A DISPLACEMENT AREAS, A NONDISPLACED, SOME AREAS, SOME DISPLACEMENT AREAS ARE VERY HIGH, SOME ARE PRETTY LOW. UM, AND THIS IS RELEVANT LATER, I PROMISE. UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS THE STATUTORY MAXIMUM, UM, FOR WHAT COULD BE CHARGED UNDER THE STREET IMPACT TO BE USED FOR THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO YOU'LL SEE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THAT AREA K READ, BUT I'LL, UM, THAT'S $24,000 PER UNIT PRETTY HIGH. UH, DOWNTOWN IS THE L IS THE LOWEST AREA ABOUT $4,000 PER SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHERE SHE WOULDN'T BE BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THERE, YOU'D BE BUILDING A HIGH RISE THERE. SO, UH, IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOTTOM, RIGHT, THE MAXIMUM STATUTORY AMOUNT THAT CAN BE CHARGED TO SAY A UNIT IN AN APARTMENT BUILDING DOWNTOWN IS $1,400 DOWNTOWN, BUT IT'S $24,000 OUT IN, UH, KIND OF THE ROLLINGWOOD AREA OR THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE ARE THE RATES PER [05:00:01] SQUARE FOOT FOR REX RESTAURANTS AND OFFICES. UM, NEXT SLIDE. UH, LET'S SEE. OH, AND THEN THIS IS JUST TO SHOW HOW THE, UM, THE DISPLACEMENT AREAS COMPARE AND YOU CAN SEE THE LAST COLUMN, THERE'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE AVERAGE THAT THE DISPLACED OR THAT EACH SERVICE AREA IS. SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY SOME AREAS RANGE FROM 58% OF THE AVERAGE ALL THE WAY UP TO 152% OF THE AVERAGE. UM, SIMILARLY NON DISPLACEMENT AREAS, AVERAGE FROM 36 TO 174. UM, AND THIS IS RELEVANT BECAUSE, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SOUGHT TO EQUALIZE A LOT OF THESE AREAS. UH, THERE'S A PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH THAT THEY'RE TAKING THERE TOWARDS EQUITY. THAT IS INTERESTING, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF, OF DOES THAT INCREASE OR DECREASE THE RELATIVE COST OF DEVELOPMENT IN A DISPLACEMENT AREAS THERE THERE'S NOT A CONSISTENT EFFECT THERE, SO THAT'S ALL THIS IS POINTING OUT, UM, GO ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, UM, THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, THEY, UH, THEY LOOKED AT ALL THIS AND THEY TOOK A, AGAIN A KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH. AND THEY SAID, UM, FOR COMMERCIAL AREAS, LET'S SPLIT THE COST 50, 50 UPFRONT FROM DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THE COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE PAID BACK PHILOSOPHICALLY THROUGH, UH, UH, PROPERTY TAXES OVER TIME, RESIDENTIAL. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT STAFF TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE, UH, THE HOUSING GOALS THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD MORE HOUSING UNITS, UH, IN THIS CITY. AND, AND THAT INFLUENCED THEM TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, LET'S MAKE IT LOWER FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. CAUSE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE, UM, MORE BUILDING A RESIDENTIAL UNIT. SO THAT ENDS UP WITH A RATIO OF, OF HOW THE FEES COMPARE TO ABOUT A ONE TO 0.7 BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. UM, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENT VMT PER PROJECTED FOR INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE LOOP, UM, THAT THAT CAN CAUSE EVEN CONSISTENT FEES TO VARY A BIT. UM, AND, UH, AND THERE'S STILL, AND THERE'S CONTINUING TO BE A WIDE VARIATION BETWEEN SERVICE AREAS. SO THE EFFECT RECOMMENDATION, THEY'RE KEEPING THAT BASE STUDY BASED NUMBER, UH, BASED ON THE ACTUAL COST OF BUILDING OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORK. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, A LOT OF VARIATION BETWEEN SERVICE AREAS AND, AND NOT A LOT OF RHYME OR REASON BETWEEN EVEN INSIDE THE LOOP, OUTSIDE THE LOOP AND DISPLACEMENT OR NON DISPLACEMENT. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE IFEC RECOMMENDATION REALLY REPRESENTS KIND OF A DISCOUNT OFF OF WHAT THE TRUE COST OF BUILDING OUT THE ROADWAY NETWORK IN THAT AREA. IT'S, IT'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION DID IS, UM, THEY TOOK THAT DIFFERENT D PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT FEE IN EACH SERVICE AREA, AND THEY LOOKED AT IT AND THEY KIND OF, THEY KIND OF STANDARDIZED IT AND THEY SAID, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IN THE COLUMN FOR THE STAFF, UH, REZI FEE PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT FOR RESIDENTIAL, THEY SAID EIGHT 50 FOR COMMERCIAL. THEY SAID 12, 15 PER DEVELOPMENT UNIT. UM, SO IT KEEPS THAT ONE TO 0.7 RATIO. UM, AND REALLY WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE, UH, OR THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE FEE FOR DOWNTOWN WAS ABOUT $1,300. YOU CAN SEE IN THAT BOTTOM ROW. AND SO THEY ENDED UP WITH A COMMERCIAL FEE THAT WAS KIND OF JUST BELOW THAT AT 1215, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CHARGE MORE THAN 1300 LEGALLY, UH, FOR THE CITYWIDE. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF ABOUT HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. SO THEY ENDED UP, UM, WITH FIGURES THAT ARE SIMPLER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SERVICE AREAS. UH, ALTHOUGH YOU DO NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR TABLES, UM, AND THEY KIND OF WERE BUMPING UP AGAINST THE CEILING OF THE LOWEST, UH, NUMBER THERE, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THAT FIGURE. AND, UM, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PREVIOUS FIGURES, JUST SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, WHILE IT IS EQUALIZING THINGS, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT REALLY RHYME OR REASON OR CONSISTENCY BETWEEN HOW DOES THIS IMPACT INSIDE THE LOOP VERSUS OUTSIDE THE LOOP? HOW DOES THIS IMPACT DISPLACEMENT VERSUS NON DISPLACEMENT? IT STANDARDIZES THINGS AND, AND THERE'S VIRTUE IN SIMPLICITY, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY, OH, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THIS EFFECT ON DISPLACEMENT AREAS. OR THIS IS GOING TO HAVE THIS EFFECT ON A, ON INSIDE THE LOOP OR OUTSIDE A LOOP, BUT IT DOES STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE IFAC RECOMMENDATION TO KEEP KIND OF A LOWER COST, UH, OR A LOWER FEE RELATIVE TO COSTS FOR RESIDENTIAL. THEN FOR COMMERCIAL, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR OPTIONS HERE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY, UM, THIS IS, UM, THE, UH, UM, THE STAFF REC FOR COMMERCIAL. THIS JUST SHOWS THOSE RATES. I DON'T KNOW HOW INFORMATIVE THIS IS. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR OPTIONS HERE ARE, UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THESE COLLECTION FEES. UH, IFAC HAD ONE RECOMMENDATION [05:05:01] THAT WAS A PROPORTION OF THE MAXIMUM FEE THAT COULD BE CHARGED STAFF CHOSE TO EQUALIZE IT. UM, IT'S STILL KIND OF A DISCOUNT OFF OF THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT. UM, THIS TABLE ISN'T ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION HERE. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT HOW WE DISCOUNT FOR MOBILITY AND ANTI-DISPLACEMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT WE CAN CHOOSE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON. I THINK THE MOST RELEVANT THING HERE IS THAT THE, UM, UH, E THIS IS RUNNING, AND THIS IS NOT A WORKING GROUP. THIS IS I GUESS, A, UH, AD HOC GROUP, UM, UH, IS, IS THAT THESE, THESE LOWERING THINGS THAT STAFF AND , DID THEY REDUCE THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT? ABSOLUTELY. THEY ALSO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THE DISCOUNTS, RIGHT, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TAKING 35% OFF THE TOP AND THEN DISCOUNTING 50% OF THAT, OR 75% OF THAT, YOU'RE DISCOUNTING FROM A RATE THAT'S ALREADY LOWERED. SO THAT IS LOST INCOME FOR THE CITY. IT DOES REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THE KIND OF TARGETED DISCOUNTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, BUT IT ALSO DOES NOT MAKE DEVELOPMENT A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE. SO THERE ARE PLUSES AND MINUSES HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW, UH, WELL, THE GROUP CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE UNANIMITY OF OPINION ABOUT IF WE SHOULD BE TAKING, UH, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON WHAT THESE FEES ARE. SO THIS IS KIND OF A TAKE IT, OR LEAVE IT ITEM FOR US. UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO GET INTO THE STUFF THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE. LET'S GO TO MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS, NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I THINK WE DEFINITELY OFFERED AN IMPROVEMENT. UM, SO THE DRAFT STAFF RECOMMENDATION OFFERED 20% OFF FOR INTERNAL CAPTURE BASED ON DOING A TIA. SO IF YOU'RE DOING MIXED USE AND YOU CAN, SOME OF THOSE TRIPS ARE CAPTURED INTERNALLY AND YOU DON'T NEED TO DRIVE RATE. I WILL SAY THAT THE EXPERIENCE OF INDUSTRY, FOLKS THAT I TALKED TO WAS THAT YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF REDUCTIONS OFF OF YOUR INTERNAL CAPTURE FOR TIA. SO IS IT REALLY MEANINGFUL TO HAVE THIS? THEY WEREN'T SURE. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN GET ANOTHER 40% OFF THAT STACK. SO UP TO 60% OFF, UM, BASED ON TRENDS, UH, TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT, UM, BUT AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON A TIA, WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE COMPLETED UNTIL THE SITE PLAN STAGE. SO IT INTRODUCES A, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY WHEN YOU'RE UP FRONT AND LOOKING AT WHAT YOUR COSTS MIGHT BE. CAUSE YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY COMPLETE A TIA TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE. UM, AND SO THE OPTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO PUT THEM IN FRONT OF THE, UH, THE FULL COMMISSION WERE TO INSTEAD REALLY SIMPLIFY THIS AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, STAFF TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TDM IS REALLY GOING TO BE BASED ON HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO TRANSIT AND HOW MUCH PARKING DO YOU PROVIDE? YEAH. IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, WE SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST MAKE SOME TABLES AND DO IT SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK UP HOW FAR, YOU KNOW, YOUR SITE IS FROM, FROM A TRANSIT. AND YOU CAN LOOK UP HOW MUCH PARKING YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE. AND, AND THAT'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOUR DISCOUNT IS. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF TREMENDOUSLY POSITIVE RECEPTION AMONG THIS, UH, FROM FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY SAYING, IF I CAN TELL FROM A TABLE WHAT I'M GOING TO PAY UP FRONT, UM, I'M A LOT LESS, IT'S A LOT AS PAINFUL TO ME ABOUT HAVING TO PAY IT BECAUSE I KNOW I CAN BUILD IT INTO THE BUSINESS CASE. SO, UM, WE'RE FLOATING A RECOMMENDATION THAT SAYS, UM, YOU CAN GET UP TO A 40% REDUCTION IF YOU'RE WITHIN A HALF MILE, THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK, IF YOU DON'T OVER PARK IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY, ATD CAN PUBLISH A TABLE AND THE TRAFFIC CRITERIA MANUAL THAT SAYS, IF YOU PROVIDE THIS AMOUNT OF PARKING, YOU KNOW, ET CETERA. SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS IS THAT IF YOU PUT A PARKING GARAGE ON THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A DISCOUNT, RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST DUMPING A BUNCH OF CARS INTO THAT PART OF TOWN WHERE THEY DON'T NEED TO BE, BUT IF YOU'RE RIGHT ON TRANSIT AND YOU'RE BUILDING IN THAT YOU'RE HAVING LESS PARKING. YEAH. YOU CAN GET THAT ADJUSTMENT THAT REALLY KIND OF REFLECTS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE DUMPING ON THE CITY STREETS. SO, UM, WE SAID, UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND BUMP IT UP TO 60% IF YOU'RE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK OR WITHIN A HALF MILE OF APPROVED LIGHT RAIL STATION. SO APPROVED. SO NOT JUST PROJECT CONNECT FUZZY, BUT YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY. UM, AGAIN, IF YOU PROVIDE REDUCED PARKING AND THE HALF MILE FROM LIGHT RAIL STATIONS IS BASED ON A LOT OF VERY, VERY SOLID RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT, UM, UH, TRAFFIC IS IMPACTED AND, AND PEOPLE'S PLANS ARE IMPACTED IF YOU'RE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF LIGHT RAIL AND ABOUT A QUARTER MILE OF BUSES, THAT'S, UM, VERY WELL ESTABLISHED AND REFLECTED IN THE, UH, THE ASAP AND THEN BECAUSE THE ASN P ALSO HAS, UH, GOALS FOR, UM, UH, ADDING MORE PEOPLE THAN A HALF MILE, THE BICYCLE PRIORITY NETWORK. AND WE SAID, YOU CAN PUT A 10% REDUCTION IN THERE IF YOU'RE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE BICYCLE PRIORITY NETWORK. SO THEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THIS, AND I WANT TO EXPRESS, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT LIKE ENDORSED BY THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOUR OF US THAT WE SAID THAT THESE ARE OPTIONS [05:10:01] WORTH PUTTING IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. SO THE EXCEPTION IS, IS THAT NEW SINGLE FAMILY, THIS IS NOT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. SO WHOSE NEW SINGLE FAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL LIKE A TOWNHOUSE, IF YOU PROVIDING, UH, OVER TWO PARKING SPACES. SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY, SPRAWLY SINGLE FAMILY, UM, THAT IS DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S DUMPING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ONTO OUR ROADS, AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE SUBSIDIZED AT ALL. AND YOU COULD EITHER CHARGE THE MAX STATUTORY BASE RATE, WHICH IS BEFORE THE AIPAC OR STAFF REDUCTIONS, OR YOU COULD JUST SAY, IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY MOBILITY REDUCTIONS WHATSOEVER. THAT WOULD BE A LESS EXTREME MEASURE OF DOING THAT. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME IT'S 1121. IF I CAN GET 15 MORE MINUTES, I THINK WE CAN DO THIS. WE CAN EXTEND TO 1140 SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON ALL IN FAVOR. I CAN'T SEE EVERYONE THINK THAT'S UNANIMOUS. I CAN SEE EVERYBODY. OKAY. THAT WAS ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO BACK. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION. UM, SO AN ALTERNATIVE TO SAYING YOU CAN'T GO TO THE STATUTORY BASE RATE WOULD BE TO JUST SAY, WELL, YOU'RE JUST NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THESE MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS. UM, THAT WOULD BE A LESS BLUNT WAY OF DOING IT. UM, IT WAS ALSO SAID THAT WE SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DOING MIXED USE AND YOU REALLY THINK THAT YOU HAVE THIS AMAZING DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS NO TRIPS WHATSOEVER. SURE. LET'S OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE CALCULATION WHERE YOU CAN DO A TIA AND PROJECT, WHAT TRIPS YOU HAVE, AND YOU CAN GET UP TO THAT 70% IF YOU HAVE THIS AMAZING TIA, BUT REALLY, HONESTLY, PROBABLY NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THAT. UM, AND THEN, UH, FINALLY, AND THIS IS WHEN I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, UH, DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE TREATED AS, UH, SERVED ENTIRELY BY TRANSIT AND BIKES. SO ALL OF DOWNTOWN HAS THE UP TO 70% REDUCTION BASED ON A PARKING TABLE THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE PARKING TABLE FOR THE REST OF TOWN. UM, I THINK ARGUABLY, UH, YOU SHOULDN'T GET ANY DISCOUNT IF YOU'RE PROVIDING ANY PARKING DOWNTOWN, BUT I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO ATD AND THE, UH, THE TCA, THE TECHNICAL CRITERIA MANUAL PROCESS, WHICH BY THE WAY, PLANNING COMMISSIONER WILL PROBABLY HAVE A HAND IN AS WE COME INTO THE NEXT YEAR. SO I PERSONALLY FELT VERY STRONGLY THAT WE NEED TO PULL DOWNTOWN OUT OF THESE CALCULATIONS. IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION. UM, THEY SHOULD HAVE DIFFERENT TABLES. UH, SO NEXT SLIDE, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION DOESN'T HAVE ANY ANTI-DISPLACEMENT POLICIES IN IT. UM, SOME THE OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT WERE, UH, IF YOU ARE, UH, GOING INTO A SITE THAT HAS EXISTING RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN A DISPLACEMENT AREA PER AND HCD, IT'S NOT TRYING TO FIND IT NOW, UM, THAT EITHER A, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU OR B YOU'RE ACTUALLY CHARGED THE MAX STATUTORY BASE RATE, WHICH WOULD BE A MORE EXTREME VERSION OF THAT. UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCOUNTS, INFRASTRUCTURE OFFSETS EXEMPTIONS WOULD STILL APPLY, BUT NOT THE, UM, THE MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS. AND THAT'S JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT ANY EASIER FOR ANYBODY IS TO GO IN AND, AND, AND REDEVELOP EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND DISPLACEMENT AREAS. NEXT SLIDE. SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCOUNTS, UM, SO IT'S GOT KIND OF THREE TIERS. IT SAYS, IF YOU'RE BETWEEN 10 AND 20% OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE, THEN YOUR DISCOUNT IS EQUAL TO THE PERCENT OF DEVELOPMENTS. IF YOU'RE BETWEEN 20 AND 49%, YOU GET A 50% DISCOUNT BECAUSE YOU'RE STARTING TO GET INTO TAX CREDIT, UM, TERRITORY THERE. AND IF YOU'RE OVER 50%, THEN YOU'RE A NONPROFIT OR BOND TERRITORY. AND THEN LET'S GIVE YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT DISCOUNT, NOT CHARGE YOU ANYTHING FOR THAT. UM, THEY HAD THE QUALIFICATIONS OF AT LEAST 15 YEARS AFFORDABILITY PERIOD, AND THAT YOU HAVE TO DO TDM AND THE OPTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO GIVE THE COMMISSION WERE, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THAT YOU SCALE THE DISCOUNT WITH INCOME LEVELS TO PROVIDE SOME AFFORDABILITY, SOME FLEXIBILITIES, SO THAT, UM, THAT OFFERS AN ENTICEMENT MAYBE TO SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE SEEN DOING WORKFORCE HOUSING AT 80 90% MFI THAT MIGHT INDUCE THEM TO SIGN A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR TO KEEP THEIR RENTS LOCKED IN FOR A WHILE. UM, OR IF YOU GET DEEPER LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY, LET'S GIVE YOU A DEEPER DISCOUNT. AND SO OUR, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD JUST SAY, HEY, NACD, COME UP WITH A KIND OF SCALABLE THING BY WHICH THE MORE AFFORDABILITY YOU OFFER, THE DEEPER, THE DISCOUNT IT'S. UM, SIMILARLY, UH, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR 15 YEARS AFFORDABILITY PERIOD. IF PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE LONGER, LET'S GIVE THEM A DEEPER DISCOUNT. YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S INCENTIVIZE LONGER PERIODS OF AFFORDABILITY. UM, WE, UH, ALSO LOOKED AT SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE JUST DOING FIELD, YOU'RE REALLY JUST SHIFTING MONEY FROM THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET TO THE HOUSING [05:15:01] BUDGET, LET'S MAKE IT FOR ONSITE UNITS ONLY. AND WHAT THAT MIGHT DO IS IT MIGHT HAVE THE IMPACT OF, UH, UH, HAVING PEOPLE DO THAT ONSITE UNIT INSTEAD OF PAYING, UM, I'M SORRY, ONSITE OR OFFSITE PHYSICAL UNITS JUST NOT FEEL, UM, BECAUSE UNDER THE NEW CODE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE FEE AND LIEU, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT FOR OTHER REASONS. LET'S MAYBE PUT OUR THUMB ON THE SCALE A LITTLE BIT TO HAVE THEM DO THOSE ONSITE UNITS ON THOSE CORRIDORS OF HIGH OPPORTUNITY. UM, AND THEN FINALLY WE SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE OVER 50% AND YOU'RE DOING TAX CREDITS OR BOND FINANCING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LET'S NOT REQUIRE TDM. LET'S, LET'S JUST, LET'S NOT CHARGE THOSE, THOSE FOLKS FOR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NEXT SLIDE INFRASTRUCTURE OFFSETS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DO, UM, OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS DEDUCTED FROM THE TOTAL FEE THAT'S PART OF STATUTE STATE LAW, UM, IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE GOALS AND THE ASN P WE SAID, HEY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING MULTIMODAL PARKING OR ONSITE BIKE FACILITIES THAT ARE EXCEED CODE, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THAT'S NOT IN THE TEXT THERE, UM, THAT YOU CAN DEDUCT THOSE COSTS FROM YOUR TOTAL FEE. AND THOSE ARE ALSO GOALS UNDER THE S AND P TO INCREASE BIKE, PARKING, TO INCREASE MULTIMODAL PARKING, ET CETERA. NEXT SLIDE. UH, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE FULLY EXEMPTED FROM THE FEE. SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SAID, HEY, IF YOU'RE DOING THREE INFILL UNITS, THIS IS BASICALLY THE PRESERVATION BONUS, AND YOU'RE NOT ADDING ANY PARKING, NO FEE IF YOU'RE, UM, MODIFYING OR REUSING OR RE OR RENOVATING A BUILDING. AND YOU'RE ADDING LESS THAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, NO FEE. UM, THIS IS FOR, UH, THAT'S I THINK FOR COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY, UM, CREATIVE SPACES IS SOMETHING THEY WERE CONSIDERING A NO FEE, SMALL BUSINESSES, SOMETHING, THEY WERE ALSO CONSIDERING, UH, FIRST THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, BUT YOU DO NO FEE. UM, AND THE TWO ADDITIONAL ONES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE IF YOU'RE PUTTING A GROCERY STORE INTO A LOW INCOME AREA AND NASR BY GROCERY STORES, NO FEE, CAUSE IT CAN BE LIKE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS GUYS FOR GROCERY STORE. UM, AND THEN SIMILARLY, 80 USE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT AN ADU AND ADD ONE PARKING SPACE, LET'S NOT GET INTO FEES WITH THOSE GUYS, IF IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE, NOT NEW ONES. OKAY. SO IT'S KIND OF A PRESERVATION HOMEOWNER KIND OF TOOL THERE. NEXT SLIDE ARE PHASING STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS ONE YEAR GRACE PERIOD. ONE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE SUPER WEDDED TO WAS, UM, TRYING TO DO MORE OF A PHASE IN, AND THAT MIGHT BE SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, SECOND YEAR IS 50%. UM, ONE THING THAT WE DID HEAR A LOT FROM INDUSTRY WAS, UM, IF YOU CAN PHASE THIS THING IN A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR US TO SWALLOW IT PARTICULARLY YEAR ONE, BECAUSE THOSE DEALS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FINANCED. AND IF YOU'RE COMING BACK AND SAYING, I HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN A MILLION DOLLARS ON, ON DEALS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FINANCED THAT CAN MESS UP A LOT OF DEALS WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO COVID, THAT MAKES THINGS PRETTY CRAZY. UM, AND THEN FINALLY ADMINISTRATION, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, UH, ATD SAID THE INTENDED TO, AND I THINK IT WOULD REASSURE A LOT OF PEOPLE IF WE WENT AHEAD AND CODIFIED IT, THAT JUST LIKE AUSTIN WATER IMPACT FEES, EVERY SIX MONTHS ATD MADE A REPORT TO THE, UH, TO IFEC, UH, TO JUST LETTING THEM KNOW HOW IT GOES. CAUSE I'VE HAD, CAN, CAN CONTINUOUSLY REFINE IT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN BY STATUTE, THEY HAVE TO REVISE THE WHOLE STRUCTURE EVERY FIVE YEARS. AND THE IDEA THERE IS, IS, UM, LET'S, UH, LET'S HAVE THE CITY AUDITOR PERFORMER REVIEW BEFORE IT'S RENEWED. UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A FULL REPORT ON ACCOUNTING, HOW IT WAS USED, ET CETERA, UM, UH, BEFORE CITY COUNCIL RENEWS THIS THING. SO THAT IS IT IN TOTAL. UM, DO WE WANT TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS NOW BEFORE WE KIND OF GET INTO IT, SLIDE BY SLIDE OR AREA BY AREA, IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR ME JUST TO HEAR FROM KIND OF OTHER PEOPLE ON YOUR, IN FRONT TO KIND OF GET THEIR CANDID THOUGHTS AND EVERYTHING. YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT UP UNLESS THEY'RE ASLEEP, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO SLEEP, BUT, UM, I WANT TO SAY THAT CHAIR, KENNY, UH, YOU DEFINITELY CAPTURED, UM, A LOT OF, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT VERY WELL. UM, IT WAS VERY THOROUGH FOLLOWING UP THROUGH, UM, ALL THE PIECES OF IT. I THINK HE PRESENTED ALL THE POINTS VERY WELL. I DO WANT TO BRING UP, UM, ONE THOUGHT BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, CREATING, ALLOWING DOWNTOWN TO BE ITS OWN LITTLE CATEGORY, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT UNO WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE PLACES ALSO, BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE WHERE A LOT OF THE HOUSING THERE HAS BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN DISCONNECTED [05:20:01] WITH THE PARKING AND IT'S NOT A PLACE THAT ACTUALLY EVEN HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUIRED PARKING ON. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A PLACE THAT, THAT, WELL, I THINK IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN UNIQUE PLACES OR JUST LIKE POINTING TO CONSIDER DOWNTOWN. SO I WANTED TO ADD THAT TO OUR CONSIDERATION. THE OTHER THING I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ON SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY OPTIONS, LIKE SOME OF THE SINGLE OPTIONS, UM, AS YOU SAW, HAVE VERY HIGH, I MEAN, DON'T HAVE ANY OFFSETS THAT ARE POSSIBLE. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY, I DUNNO IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMITTEE OR ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS CAN THINK OF ANY OTHER THINGS THAT, WHAT OTHER TOOLS CAN YOU WRITE? CAUSE OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TDM STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING IS APPLIED FOR COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS, BUT IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO, EXCEPT THEY'RE GOING TO GET HIT WITH A MAX WITH NO WAY AROUND IT. RIGHT. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, UH, ANY OTHER OPTIONS. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS I WANTED TO BRING UP WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, CHART FOR DEVELOPERS AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO SEE AND HAVE A PREDICTABILITY IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY PRETTY MUCH TAKING WHAT CITY STUFF HAD TALKED TO US DURING CODE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CODE NEXT ABOUT ALL THOSE TBM TOOLS AND PUTTING THAT INSTEAD OF WAITING TO FIGURE IT OUT AND LET THE STOP IT, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IT IN THE FRONT END. SO WE HAVE PREDICTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY FOR EVERYBODY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AS OUR LITTLE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT TO DOING, AND IT WAS BASICALLY TRYING TO PULL TDM TOOLS OUT TO BE A PARENT FOR EVERYBODY. BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S JUST WHAT I KIND OF WANT TO ADD RIGHT NOW. I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST SPEAK, I THINK, QUICKLY THINKING SO MUCH OF OUR CONVERSATIONS PRETTY WELL. AND I, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK STAFF. I THINK WE'RE WORKING WITH US ON THIS. I KNOW THE ONE SECTION IS HELPFUL. UM, I THINK I JUST WANT TO FLAG AND BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE A POSITION ON IT, BUT THE FEE RATES, I THINK WERE PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITHIN THE GROUP IN WHETHER IT SHOULD BE THAT 50%, 60% REDUCTION IS BASED. AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AGAIN, WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THEM, BUT I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A BIG CONVERSATION FOR US. AND I THINK THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO CONTINUE AND WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN ARGUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. I'LL JUST CHIME IN AND SAY THAT I, UM, I ALSO APPRECIATE THE RECAP, THE CONCISE RECAP, UM, FROM OUR CHAIR LATE AT NIGHT. UM, AND THE BIGGEST STICKING POINT FOR ME WITH THIS IS JUST WHERE THIS STUFF GETS REALLY TRICKY, IS THAT IN TERMS OF CONSTITUTIONAL OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO BE CALCULATING FEES THAT REFLECT THE ACTUAL IMPACT ON THE STREET. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER SO WELL, WE WOULD LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE THE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT WE WANT TO SEE MORE OF AND DISINCENTIVIZE OTHER KINDS. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE USE THIS PARTICULAR TOOL. UM, BECAUSE BY LAW WE CAN ONLY REALLY BE COLLECTING FEES TO OFFSET THE FULL COSTS AND ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY. AND THAT THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS FEE IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS. SO EVEN THE DEVELOPMENT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER TONIGHT, I'M THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE ALONG UNCLE'S CROSSING, WHICH THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY ADDRESS IN A CASE LIKE THAT. EVEN IF YOU HAVE HAYES OR EVEN IF YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPER, UM, BECAUSE THE STREET PHYSICALLY DOESN'T ALLOW IT, BUT IN THOSE CASES, IF IT DID, LET'S SAY WE COULD ACTUALLY OFFSET THOSE, THOSE COSTS, WE'D HAVE TO REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF GIVING A DEEP DISCOUNT TO MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND THAT IS INHERENTLY GOING TO MEAN GREATER IMPACT, UM, ON THE STREET. UH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IT IS. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE MAIN PLACE WHERE IT GOT REALLY, UM, DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SUPPORT CHANGING SOME OF THESE TOO MUCH. UM, AND JUST WANTING TO BE REALLY CONSCIOUS OF THAT. YEAH. AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE GUIDANCE THAT I GOT FROM STAFF WAS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE STAYED BELOW WHAT THE STUDY SAID WAS THE COST FOR ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT UNIT THAT WE'D BE OKAY. AND ACHIEVING POLICY OBJECTIVES, UH, UNDER THE LAW, UM, WHICH IS, I THINK IS WHY EVERYTHING MAX OUT AT THAT 1300 [05:25:01] FOR, FOR DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE WE HAD TO STAY BELOW THAT. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS IS, IS THAT THIS DOESN'T ENTIRELY ELIMINATE, UH, REFERRAL FUNCTIONALITY THAT, UH, IF THERE ARE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE THE KINDS THAT WE SAW IN KNUCKLES CROSSING WHERE THEY SAID, YOU GOT TO PUT IN A TURN LANE HERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THEY ACTUALLY WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO FINANCE THOSE. THEY JUST CAN'T, UH, EXCEED THE MAXIMUM STATUTORY RATE THERE. SO THAT'S YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S COMPLEX. UM, YEAH. AND I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. I MEAN, LIKE, UM, THERE'S A REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS WERE ALREADY FIGURED OUT AND NOT ENOUGH, I'M SURE. LIKE, UH, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THAT THEY WERE LIKE, OH, THESE NUMBERS COME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT THAT MUCH? AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR US. WE DECIDED THAT'S NOT FOR US. THAT'S A DIFFERENT BATTLE. THERE'S ALREADY ORDINANCE AND STUFF. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN ON IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH THOSE NUMBERS RIGHTLY CALIBRATOR OR NOT. WE, WE CAN ONLY, WE'RE NOT CHATTING DOWN THERE. UM, THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION IS THAT WE DID MEET WITH YOU ALL. I, IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, THAT WAS OUR, OUR GROUP WITH ULI AND, UM, ON MULTIPLE STAFF IS HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO REALLY THINK STAFF FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND TO GUIDE US THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THEY WERE ALSO VERY OPEN TO CONSIDERING IT. UM, AND I KNOW AT THIS POINT THEY'RE ALSO WAITING TO HEAR FROM OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN IN TOUCH WITH US ALONG THE WAY. SO THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE JUST DROPPING ON THEM. CAUSE I THINK THIS IS GOING TO COUNSEL. NO, IT DID IT GET POSTPONED. IT'S I THINK IT'S GOING TO GET TABLED, UH, IN TWO DAYS AT COUNCIL'S. SO THEY'LL, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT UP, BUT THEN POSTPONE TWO WEEKS. OKAY. SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, BUT WE'RE NOT DROPPING SOMETHING ON STAFF THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING IN. THEY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE, UH, ON, ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING OUT WITH THEM. SO REALLY? YES, REALLY. THANKS. LATEST WORD FROM ATD IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S IN HERE IS WORKABLE AND PASSABLE AS A POLICY. UM, NOT THAT THEY NECESSARILY SUPPORT IT, BUT THAT EVERYTHING HERE IS, IS WORKABLE. THEY SUPPORT A LOT OF IT. UM, AND, UH, SO, UM, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, AND THEN CONSIDERING THE HOUR, UH, UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO KIND OF THREAD THROUGH THIS WITHOUT GOING TOO EXTREME, MAYBE IN SOME DIRECTIONS. AND I THINK MAYBE JUST BEING SILENT ON THE COLLECTION FEE RATES AND HOW THEY DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SERVICE AREAS. CAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL'S ALREADY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THIS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO DO IT. I THINK THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO IS TO PROVIDE KIND OF CONVERSATION STARTERS OR, OR POINTS, UH, ALTERNATIVE FRAMEWORKS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER AS THEY DO THIS. UM, SO CONSIDERING THE HOUR I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH STARTING WITH JUST THE ADJUSTMENTS, NOT LOOKING AT THE, AT THE RATES AND, UH, AND MAKE AND MAKE A PROPOSAL BASED ON THAT. IS, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYBODY AT THIS POINT, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, CAN I MAKE AN EXTENSION TO 1150, 1150? ALL RIGHT. UH, CRUSHERS ARE MOVES FOR 1150 SECOND BY EYE CAUSE YOU'RE SEGER ALL IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S A 11 ZERO. OKAY. UH, UH, AB STEPH, IF YOU COULD BRING UP SLIDE 11 STEP SEVEN SLIDES, IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THEM HERE, NOT THAT ONE. SO IF WE LEAVE THE COLLECTION RATES LOW AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ENDORSING WHAT STAFF IS DOING, BUT WE'RE JUST KIND OF BEING SILENT ON IT, WHICH I THINK IS, IS FINE. SO JUST WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, SO I PROPOSE LET'S MAYBE NOT GO AS FAR AS CHARGING THE MAXIMUM STATUTORY BASE RATE FOR NEW SINGLE FAMILY OR RESIDENTIAL WITH OVER TWO PARKING SPOTS. BUT WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY, IF WE ADOPTED THIS FRAMEWORK FOR ADJUSTMENTS, IF YOU MEET THE PARKING TABLES PUBLISHED BY ATD. UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY IF YOU'RE, IF YOU START PROVIDING MORE PARKING ALONGSIDE THEIR TABLE, THE VALUE OF YOUR 40 OR 60% ADJUSTMENT STARTS GOING DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU GET NO ADJUSTMENT, IF YOU WERE PROVIDING A LOT OF PARKING AND, UM, AND, UH, [05:30:01] AND THEN IF YOU ARE DOING KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SPRAWLY SINGLE FAMILY OR, OR TOWNHOUSES A LOT OF PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, YOU'RE JUST NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE MOBILITY DISCOUNTS AT ALL, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, UH, IN REALITY, UM, PROVIDING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE PRODUCING A DECREASED IMPACT ON THE ROADWAY NETWORK. YOU'RE ACTUALLY JUST DUMPING CARS ON IT, THEN IT ROAD ROADWAY NETWORK. UM, DO WE WANT TO, UH, HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT? RIGHT. CAN WE GO NEXT SLIDE? ANTI-DISPLACEMENT SIMILARLY. SO ON A MOBILITY ADJUSTMENT AND THE LAST ITEM, UM, WANTING TO GET EVERYBODY TO COME BACK AND FIGHT MORE. UH, I MENTIONED ABOUT UNO. YES. UM, AND I'LL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS. UM, I'M GOING TO MAKE A BASE MOTION, UH, TO TAKE UP A PC RECOMMENDATION ON THE, UH, UH, MOBILITY, UH, I'M SORRY, ON THE STREET IMPACT FEES. AND THEN WE'LL GO PAGE BY PAGE AND MAKE AMENDMENTS AND TAKE LITTLE VOTES ON, IS THAT ALL RIGHT, SO, UH, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A BASE MOTION. CAN I GET A SECOND ON THE BASE MOTION? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, AND THEN, UH, LET ME OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO THAT BASE MOTION THAT SAYS THAT WE ADOPT THE ADJUSTMENTS ON THIS PAGE. UH, NOT GOING TO THE FULL MAX STATUTORY BASE RATE, BUT JUST SAYING YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS. IF YOU'RE DOING THAT SPRAWLY SINGLE FAMILY OR STUFF WITH A LOT OF PARKING. UM, AND WITH THE, UH, ADDITION TO WHAT'S ON THIS PAGE THAT, UH, ADDITIONALLY UNO IS ASSUMED TO BE COMPLETELY SERVED BY TRANSIT AND BIKE NETWORKS AND HAS A SEPARATE ITS OWN SEPARATE PARKING TABLE. YES, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME THAT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY. UM, ANY DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. ANYBODY PIPE UP AT THEY'RE VOTING? NO, BECAUSE LIKE IT'S HARD FOR ME TO AWAY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. UH, CUSHNER YANAS PULIDO ROATAN ABSTAIN. OKAY. SO THAT IS 10 ZERO TEN NINE ZERO TWO. I WITH COMMISSIONER IS QUITO AND SEGAR ABSTAINING. OKAY. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION TO THE DEBT? IT MAY HAVE BEEN 10 ZERO TWO. ALL RIGHT. UH, GOING ON TO ANTI-DISPLACEMENT. UM, NEXT SLIDE. UH, SO SOFTENING THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT PUTTING THE FRAMEWORK IN FRONT OF A CITY COUNCIL THAT, UM, NACD PUBLISHES A MAP OF, UH, DISPLACEMENT AREAS. AND IF YOU ARE, UH, REDEVELOPING A SITE WITH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, THEN YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY MOBILITY DISCOUNTS OR A SECOND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BIZARRE. UH, WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. ARE THERE FURTHER AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSSION? SO, UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE THEN WOULD BE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISPLACEMENT, I MEAN, IT, WHEN IT SAYS, IF THERE IS ANY DISPLACEMENT, I GUESS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT W THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, IF IT WAS, LET'S SAY IT'S LIKE A EIGHT ACRE TRACK AND THERE'S ONLY ONE HOUSE ON IT OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE A GRID DATION TYPE OF STUFF. UM, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE WHAT IF IT'S A PLACE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MITIGATE OR ACTUALLY BRING BETTER THINGS TO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TAKING, UH, UH, REMOVING FROM THEIR OFFSET IS NOT FROM ALL OF IT IS, BUT JUST ONLY FROM THAT MOBILITY ADJUSTMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'S ONLY, IT'S NOT SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T GET ANY OFFSET, YOU'RE JUST TAKING THAT ONE PIECE OF IT. AM I CORRECT? YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. AND, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RAISE WITH ATD AND AN HCD. UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD FRAMEWORK TO START FROM FOR, FOR THEM AS, AS THEY REVISE THEIR STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL. BUT I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. OKAY. YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IT'S JUST MORE FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF THINK, THINK ABOUT THIS THOUGH. CAN YOU, CAN YOU REMIND ME, DO FUNDS HAVE TO BE SPENT IN THEIR DISTRICT OR THEIR AREA? [05:35:01] THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT WITHIN 10 YEARS WITHIN THE SAME SERVICE AREA. OKAY. SOME OF THE SERVICE AREAS ARE MOSTLY DISPLACEMENT AREAS AND SOME OF THEM KIND OF STRADDLE DISPLACEMENT AND NON AREAS LIKE TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND MONTOPOLIS ARE IN THE SAME SERVICE AREA. WE MIGHT NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL IMPACT IS GOING TO BE IN THE SENSE OF IF NON DISPLACEMENT AREAS THEN SUDDENLY HAVE MUCH MORE FUN THAT NEED TO BE SPENT IN THOSE AREAS. MAY, MAYBE THIS IS AN EQUITABLE INVESTMENT OR FOR AN AREA THAT WAS LONG INVESTED, BUT MAYBE IT'S ALSO AN INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT CONSTRUE THOMPSON. WHAT WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT AN AMENDMENT THAT ADDS A CAVEAT THAT, UM, THE, UH, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, UM, UH, EQUALIZE ANY, UH, EQUITY ISSUES GENERATED BY THIS POLICY? I DON'T KNOW. I THINK, I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS. I THINK IT'S TOO COMPLEX TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ON JUST TO INVEST IN THOSE AREAS. I SEE. OKAY. SO CITY STAFF TRY TO EQUALIZE SOME OF THAT, BUT I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS USING THE CIP STUFF, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU COULD GET AT THE EQUITY ISSUE. UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY MOST CAPITAL FUNDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO COME FROM BONDS. UM, THIS IS REALLY KIND OF A QUESTION OF HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT COSTS AND WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS DISCOUNT, WHAT IS NOT. AND I THINK THE THOUGHT HERE WAS LET'S NOT DISCOUNT, UM, STUFF THAT GOES INTO A DISPLACEMENT AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CAUSE IF YOU DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU CAN STILL GET IT FULLY DISCOUNTED. RIGHT. OKAY. I'M SEE CHAIR. YES, GREG HERE. SO, UM, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER SHAY A LITTLE BIT HERE. SO I READ TODAY AN ARTICLE ABOUT LA, THERE WERE FOUR SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS, $1.4 MILLION. EACH SOMEBODY BOUGHT THEM ALL, THEY TORN DOWN AND NOW THEY'RE PUTTING UP 40 HOMES THERE. AND NOW IT'S LIKE, AND I, IF THAT WERE AN AREA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT LA IS COMPARED TO US, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BIGGER PIECE OF LAND, THAT'S JUST UNDER UTILIZED FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, A BIG THREE ACRE TRACT OF LAND, EVEN IF IT'S A COUPLE OF HOMES ON IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE IN ANY WAY. AND IF WE CHASE THE WAY HE AND YOU TYPE PROJECT, OR JUST SHORTER THAN WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE COSTS, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT MAKES SENSE OR HOW THAT HELPS THAT AREA. UM, YES. UH, I THINK I LIKE REBELLING, BUT THERE, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S MISSING SOME THINGS AND I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT A CAVEAT THAT SAYS ASTERIX, BC RECOMMENDS FURTHER EXPLORATION OF, OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS POLICY? OR MAYBE A MOLD? LIKE IF IT'S LIKE ONE FOR ONE OR 1.1 FOR 1.5, THIS HOLDS TRUE, BUT IF IT'S TWO TIMES OR GREATER, THE NUMBER OF HOMES NO LONGER APPLIES DAILY, THEY'RE BUILDING UNDER A DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM AND THEY HAVE PORTABLE UNITS. YEAH. I MEAN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCOUNTS STILL APPLY HERE. IT'S JUST THE MOBILITY DISCOUNTS THAT ARE TAKEN AWAY RIGHT AT 1149, EMOTIONAL FROM MIDNIGHT. LET'S DO IT. ALRIGHT. NUMBER ALRIGHT. OPPOSE ABSTAINING. ALRIGHT, VARIES. UM, SO, UH, I MEAN, I THINK CONSIDERING THE HOUR I WOULD, THAT SEEMS TO ME MAYBE THE WAY FORWARD IS SAYING, YOU KNOW, ASTERIX, YOU KNOW, PC RECOGNIZES THAT, UH, THERE ARE SITUATIONS THAT ARE MORE COMPLEX THAN THIS AND RECOMMENDS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER EXPLORATION OF THIS POLICY. I LIKE THAT. AND THEN SOME JUST CALL ME OUT THE FACT THAT THIS SIZE, OR SIMPLY READY TO READ ABOUT FIGURING OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. YEAH. YEAH. I LIKE THAT DIRECTION. JUST KEEP IT AT MORE WHEAT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER INVESTIGATION, BUT THIS IS KIND OF GENERALLY WHAT WE WANT THEM TO LOOK AT. UM, I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN HERE PC RECOGNIZES THAT SITUATIONS ARE COMPLEX AND, UH, RECOMMENDS FURTHER EXPLORATION OF THE, UH, UH, CONSEQUENCES [05:40:02] AND CAVEATS OF THIS POLICY, OF THIS RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, UM, WITH JUST THE ELIMINATION OF, OF MOBILITY ADJUSTMENTS, NOT TO THE MAX BASE RATE, UH, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT PC RECOGNIZED THAT SITUATIONS ARE COMPLEX AND RECOMMENDS FURTHER EXPLORATION OF THE CONSEQUENCES AND CAVEATS OF THIS RECOMMENDATION. SECOND BY, I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY CHRISTIAN OR BIZARRE, UH, YOU GO BACK TO GRID FOR A SECOND, SO I CAN SEE THE, ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK OR OFFER AMENDMENTS. I GET GRID VIEW PLEASE. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T, CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY TO ALL RIGHT. UH, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. OKAY. AND, UH, STAY IN YELLOW AND OPPOSE RED. OKAY. SO THAT IS 11 TO ONE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S CAN WE GO BACK TO THE DECK PLEASE? I'LL JUST FOR MAKING THIS SWITCH. ALL RIGHT. AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCOUNTS. UM, I THINK THIS ONE IS REALLY SOLID. UH, I KNOW COMMISSIONERS ARE, HAS GONE ROUND AND ROUND WITH, UH, WITH NACD ON THIS ONE. AND I REALLY LIKED THE, UH, THE CAVEAT OR THE FURTHER KIND OF NUANCE THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THIS. UM, DOES ANYONE, UH, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THIS AS WRITTEN A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER AZHAR AT, DOES ANYONE OFFER TO OFFER ANY AMENDMENTS OR ANY DISCUSSION? UM, HEARING NONE, UH, GO GREEN TO VOTE FAVOR AND YELLOW ABSTAIN RED OPPOSE THIS 10 ZERO TWO. ALL RIGHT. GO BACK TO THE DECK, PLEASE. NEXT ONE IS INFRASTRUCTURE OFFSETS. AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADD ONSITE FACILITY, UH, BICYCLE FACILITIES OR ONSITE MOTEL MULTIMODAL PARKING COSTS THAT EXCEED CODE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BE DEDUCTED FROM TOTAL FEES. SO NOT JUST OFFSITE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. UM, UH, SO OFFER THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO THE BASE MOTION SECOND BY MR. SHAW, UM, ALL THOSE, UH, FURTHER AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SHOW GREEN. UM, SHINAR SEEGER IS OPPOSE ALL THOSE OPPOSE RED, UH, ALL THOSE ABSTAINING YELLOW THAT'S TEN ONE ONE. ALL RIGHT. AND GO BACK TO THE DECK, PLEASE THAT WE WOULD HEAR EARLIER THAN THIS TONIGHT. UM, CAN WE GO, CAN WE SEE THE DECK AGAIN, PLEASE? THANK YOU. UH, FULL EXEMPTIONS. SO WE WOULD BE ADDING TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, A FOOD DESERT AND AN ADU WITH ONE PARKING SPACE EXEMPTION COMMISSIONED SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY. UM, ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSSION. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE, HOW DO YOU DO GROCERY STORES OR THE GROCERY STORE? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A TECHNICAL DEFINITION. UM, DO WE WANT TO ADD AS DEFINED BY NACD? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DOLLAR GENERAL AND A GROCERY STORE? THERE'S ACTUALLY A FEDERAL DEFINITION HERE ON A FULL SERVICE GROCERY STORE. I THINK IT'S, IF YOU HAVE LIKE A MEAT DEPARTMENT AND A PRODUCE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU HAVE A DEFINITION, BUT I THINK THE INTENT WILL SUFFICE. UM, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SOME COUNCIL OFFICES ARE LOOKING AT AS WELL. UM, ALL RIGHT. HEARING, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR. OH, GREEN, UH, ALL OPPOSED, GO RED, ALL ABSTAINING, GO YELLOW, 10 ZERO TWO EXEMPTIONS. YOU GO BACK TO THE DECK PLEASE. UM, PHASE-IN, UM, FEEL FREE TO TAKE A GENUINE BOAT ON THIS ONE. UH, I I'M AMBIVALENT ABOUT IT. I'M SURE INDUSTRY IS GONNA FIGHT FOR IT. UH, SO, UM, YOU, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW NECESSARILY IT IS FOR US TO PASS THIS ONE. UM, SO, UH, ER, UH, [05:45:02] I'LL GO AHEAD AND OFFER IT FOR A VOTE, UM, THAT WE ADD A PHASE IN FOR 50% OF THE FEE FOR YEAR TWO, JUST SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON IT. UM, AND I GET A SECOND FROM SHEA. ALL RIGHT. UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ONE AND FEEL FREE TO VOTE YOUR PREFERENCE ON THIS ONE. UM, ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, ALL OPPOSED. GO RED ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, ALL, UH, ABSTAINING GO YELLOW. THAT WAS THREE, THREE, SIX, THREE, THREE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE LAST ONE IS ADMINISTRATION. WE CAN GO BACK TO THE DECK PLEASE. AND, UH, THIS IS TO, UH, DIRECT ATD TO MAKE REPORTS TO IFEC EVERY SIX MONTHS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO FOR AUSTIN WATER. AND BEFORE THE FIVE YEAR RENEWAL THAT THE CITY AUDITOR PERFORMER REVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, UM, I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SHEA, UM, ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS OR DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN ALL. AND THAT IS YAM IT'S 12 ZERO. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THAT'S IT. UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP NEXT TIME. PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT. THIS KIND OF STUFF. SUPER IMPORTANT NEEDS. A DEDICATED GROUP OF PEOPLE TO LOOK AT, UH, OVER TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION IS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS OUR, UH, PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMISSION AND BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMISSION. A BUNCH OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION NERDS CAN GET TOGETHER AND NERD OUT ON STUFF AND COME TO US WITH MORE FULLY FORMED STUFF. SO THINK ABOUT JOINING THAT GROUP. YES, MR. VERA, IF WE COULD TAKE A VOTE ON ALL THE AMENDMENTS AND THE ITEM ITSELF. OH, OKAY. FINAL VOTE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED, UM, AGREEING FOR A FINAL APPROVAL AND YELLOW FOR ABSTAIN 10 ZERO TWO FOR FINAL VOTE. THANK YOU, MR. RIVERA. UM, ANY BURNING, UH, JOINT COMMITTEE REPORTS NEED TO BE MADE WORKING GROUP REPORTS NEED TO BE MADE? UH, WE'RE I PROMISE GOING TO GET TO, UM, THE WAY THAT WE DO POSTINGS, UH, AS WELL AS THE WAY THAT WE DO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS FOR Q AND THAT UP AT ALL, THAT I'VE BECOME A NEXT TIME. THANK YOU EVERYONE. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. STAY SAFE OUT THERE. WE'LL SEE INTO IT. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.