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[Call to Order]
ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND BUSINESSES TO TAKE ROLL.COMMISSIONER BERRERA RAMIREZ HERE.
COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER DANCLER COMMISSIONER DAN GLARE.
YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ON MUTE COMMISSIONER.
DANCLER ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, THEN I'LL SKIP OVER THAT COMMISSIONER CANCUN COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.
I'LL GET BACK TO COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, COMMISSIONER EVANS.
COMMISSIONER RAY AND COMMISSIONER SMITH HERE.
AND GOING BACK TO COMMISSIONER DAN GLORY WITH US.
DANCLER LET US KNOW WHEN YOU JOIN US.
UM, WE ARE, I CAN'T HEAR YOU AND I DO NOT SEE YOU.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, ARE YOU HERE? UM, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.
AND SO WE'RE JUST MISSING, AT LEAST IT LOOKS LIKE SHE'S CHECKED IN, BUT UH, HAVEN'T, DON'T SEE HER PICTURE AND DON'T, UH, OR AT LEAST NOT YET.
AND THEN, UM, SO COMMISSIONER, DANCLER JUST CHECK IN WHEN YOU CAN, AND THEN NEXT I'M GOING TO READ
[Reading of the Agenda]
THE AGENDA.AND SO FIRST A ONE, THE MINUTES APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JULY 21ST, 2020, THEN THE B ONE ZONING AND REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE THREE CASCADES HILLTOP.
AND THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM B TWO REZONING C EIGHT ONE FOUR DASH 20 DEF 2009 DASH ZERO ONE THREE 9.03 BULL CRAP BULL CREEK POD AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, STAFF AND DEF IS REQUESTING AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, THE THREE SITE PLAN AND ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE ONLY.
AND THAT IS S P DASH 2018 DASH ZERO FIVE SEVEN NINE POINT S H A DASH PERSIMMONS.
AND THAT GOES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND BEFORE FINAL PLAT WITH PRELIMINARY C H J DASH 2018 DASH ZERO ZERO SEVEN 8.28 DASH FINAL PLAT PRESERVE AT OAK HILL.
AND THIS IS, UH, LISTED AS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS PER EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT.
AND THEN, UM, ON ITEM FIVE, THE RECEPTIVITY, NO ACTIONS, IT MUST BE RE NOTIFIED.
AND SO THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
AND, UM, DO I NEED TO READ C5, I GUESS, UM, SINCE WE'RE NOT DOING ANY ACTION, I DON'T NEED TO DO IT UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE.
AND SO THEN, UM, BEFORE WE DO A MOTION TO VOTE ON THIS, I WAS, UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY, IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE, WHO WANTS TO, WHO IS LISTENING, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, BE TO, UH, OR NO? I'M SORRY.
UH, A B3 SITE PLAN, UM, FOR, UM, AT SEVEN OH FIVE ONE MIDDLE LAKE BOULEVARD.
AND IF NOT, THEN IS THERE A MOTION FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA? DOES THAT MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE ITEM MIGHT WANT THE MINUTES APPROVE ITEM B TO OR INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ITEM B3 CONSENT, NOT A BEFORE DISAPPROVAL FOR THE REASONS OUTLINED AND THE ITEM ATTACHMENT C TO THE, A STAFF MOTION BACKUP.
OKAY, THANKS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KANE AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE.
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HIS MOTION WAS FOR THE REVISED YES.AND THEN ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND WE'RE GONNA GO AND WE'RE GONNA WORK.
WE'RE GONNA DO B ONE, BUT I'D LIKE ALL YOUR COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER BRAY HAS BROUGHT UP TO ME.
THE IDEA OF THERE'S A RAISING HAND ICON ON WEBEX AND I HAVE DISCOVERED IT AND, UM, AND IT WOULD BE, IT'S MUCH EASIER THAN SEEING LIKE A, LIKE A TWO CENTIMETER, LITTLE HAND GOING UP OR WHATEVER FOR ME.
AND I THINK IT JUST MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU.
DON'T HAVE TO BE SO AGGRESSIVE AND ALL THAT, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER BRAD, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THAT? UH, THE HIGH HAND ICON PLEASE? YES, I CAN.
THEY'RE NOT GREAT, BUT UM, LET'S SEE IF IT'LL LET YOU SHARE.
CAN YOU ALL SEE, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON RIGHT HERE WITH A PERSON ICON.
CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? AND THEN, UM, IT'LL OPEN UP A PARTICIPANTS IN YOU AND YOU CAN, YOU SEE A LITTLE HAND AND YOU CAN SELECT YOUR HAND AND IT'LL LIKE, LET YOU RAISE YOUR HAND OR LOWER YOUR HAND.
HOW DO YOU KNOW? OH, HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOUR HAND IS RAISED? I THINK IT HIGHLIGHTS IT LIKE IT'LL CHANGE COLOR.
IF I MIGHT ADD IT TOGGLES OFF AND ON, IF YOU PICK THE HAND AND IT TURNS IT ON, IF YOU CLICK IT AGAIN, IT TURNS ABOUT BASICALLY RAISES AND LOWERS YOUR HAND AND YOU CAN SEE, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE OTHER OTHER MEMBERS THAT HAVE RAISED THEIR HANDS AS WELL.
HOW DO I GET TO PARTICIPANTS? SO, SO YOU SEE MY MOUSE, THERE'S A LITTLE PERSON ICON AT THE BOTTOM, LIKE ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
DO YOU SEE THOSE, LIKE THOSE MENU BAR? LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE.
LET ME SHARE MY, OH, I FOUND IT AND YOU CAN SEE, I HAVE MY HAND RAISED.
AND I'M GOING TO KEEP IT RAISED ALL THE TIME.
NOW, ONE THING TO MAKE SURE TO RAISE YOUR HAND, ONCE YOU FINISH YOUR TURN SPEAKING, I'M SURE IT'LL TAKE US SOME TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I FIGURED THIS IS A GOOD THING TO KIND OF TRY OUT AND MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER TO TAKE IN TERMS TALKING AND YOU KNOW, EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO GET A TURN IN.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRAY CHAIR.
MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION RELATED? SURE.
I, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S TWO OTHER THINGS BESIDES THE
HOW DO WE DO THAT? IS THAT WHAT TAKE THAT WOULD FACILITATE OUR MEETINGS? I WONDER IF I WONDER IF IT'LL, LET ME SHARE THE SCREEN OF ME USING WEBEX MIGHT NOT SEE WHAT YOU DID RIGHT HERE.
NO, I WAS SHARING A SCREENSHOT, BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SHARE THAT SCREEN AGAIN.
CAUSE IT DOESN'T LET ME SHARE A WEBEX, LIKE TO THIS SCREEN OF ME BEING ON WEBEX, BUT I CAN SHARE A SCREENSHOT OF WEBEX.
AND ACTUALLY MAYBE THEIR ICON, LIKE YOU SEE MY MOUSE, THERE'S LIKE A SQUARE THING WITH THE UPLOADING SCREEN.
AND THE BACKGROUND, IT JUST LIKE HAD A POP UP MENU FOR THE FIRST TIME WHEN I OPENED IT TODAY.
SO I'LL HAVE TO SEE WHERE TO GET TO THAT YET.
I LOVE YOUR, I LOVE YOUR VIRTUAL BACKGROUND.
NOW WE'LL GO ON TO OUR CASE B ONE AND THEN VOTE.
[Consent Agenda]
OKAY.[00:10:01]
WHICH INCLUDES B2 STAFF, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT B3 SITE PLAN VARIANCE THE B A ONE OF COURSE, THE MINUTES, AS CORRECT AS REVISED AND BEFORE A FINAL PLAT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS PER EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.[B1. Zoning and Rezoning: C14-2020-0053 - Cascades - Hilltop; District 5]
MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT.
I JUST TO INTRODUCE THIS CASE, THE SUBJECT CORRECT IS UNDEVELOPED.
IT HAS A FLAG CONFIGURATION TO THE NORTHBOUND 35 FRONTAGE ROAD.
THE FLAG PORTION IS ZONED
AND THE REMAINDER HAS ISF TWO ZONING SINCE ANNEXATION IN OCTOBER OF 2018.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS A RECENTLY BEGAN.
IT BEGAN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST IS AN AGRICULTURAL TRACK.
AND THE TWO MILE ATJ AND TO THE SOUTH IS AN UNDEVELOPED LOT WITH AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR 292 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.
AND THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE KNOWN AS THREE HILLS APARTMENT AND IT HAS
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING
THE APPLICANTS ACCESS IS THREE MAY ALL TRAIL, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THE NORTH.
AND I DID SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, RESEARCH THIS AFTERNOON AND LEARNED THAT MAY ALL TRAILS CONTINUES ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE OF THAT ADJACENT AGRICULTURAL TRACT THAT IS IN THE TJ.
AND THEN THROUGH THE CASCADES THAT ONION CREEK EAST A FINAL PLAT, THAT IS A PLAN FOR 84 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
AND IT'S IN STILL IN OUR REVIEW STAGES THAT IS ZONED ISF TOO, AND IS VISIBLE ON THE ZONING MAP AT THE VERY, UM, RIGHT CORNER OF THE RIGHT LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF THE PAGE.
UH, SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS, UM, BELIEVING THAT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN DENSITY ALONG THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD AND IS COMPATIBLE WITH SIMILARLY SITUATED NAIL PLATE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH.
UM, I DID HAVE A FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS APPROXIMATELY 254 ACRES IN THE ETJ.
HE, UH, ASKED ABOUT POTENTIAL EAST-WEST ROADWAY CONNECTION BETWEEN BRADSHAW ROAD, WHICH IS TO THE EAST AND I, THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD.
I DID FIND OUT THAT A ROADWAY CONNECTION WAS STUDIES, BUT IT WAS DETERMINED TO BE CHALLENGING IN TERMS OF FLOODPLAIN AND COPRA GRAPHICAL CONSTRAINTS, AS WELL AS A SIGNIFICANT ACREAGE OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
AND, UM, THE TRAVIS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION BLOOP BLUEPRINT, WHICH IS A LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN DOES NOT INCLUDE A ROAD CONNECTION NOR DOES THE AUSTIN AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.
SO AGAIN, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING MFR AS THE APPLICANT REQUESTED.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AND NOW WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THE APPLICANT AND SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT IS LACEY EHLERS AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
HI, DID HE BEING A CHAIR, KIELBASA AND COMMISSIONER? UM, MY NAME IS ACA LEARNERS.
I WOULDN'T BLAME IN HOWARD AND AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, I, I WON'T TAKE UP THE WHOLE SIX MINUTES AND I DID SUBMIT, UM, A PRESENTATION.
SO ASSUMING THAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING THAT I'LL, I'LL MAKE REFERENCE TO THAT AS I MOVE THROUGH, UM, OUR REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING FOR AN 11.5 ACRE TRACK LOCATED AS SHOWN ON SLIDE TWO TO MS. FOUR, TO ACCOMMODATE A SENIOR LIVING APARTMENT PROJECT, SERVING A VARIETY OF INCOME LEVELS.
THE AUSTIN ROUND ROCK AREA IS HOME TO THE COUNTRY.
SECOND FASTEST GROWING POPULATION OF ADULTS, AGE 55 AND OLDER.
THIS PROPOSED PROJECT C IS ON UNMET NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE DEMOGRAPHIC BY ENERGIES IN APARTMENTS, FOCUSED ON PROVIDING ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME.
PLUS COMMUNITY AMENITIES, SUCH AS POOL LIBRARY, KITCHEN GARDENS, AND IN DOG PARKS, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL CONSIST OF THREE TO FOUR STORY BUILDINGS WITH 140 TO 151 AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS.
EVERY UNIT WILL BE RESTRICTED TO RESIDENTS AGES 55 AND OLDER WITH INCOMES AT, OR BELOW 60%
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OF THE AREA, MEDIAN INCOME, AND WILL BE COMPRISED OF A MIXTURE OF UNITS AVAILABLE FOR INCOMES AT 30, 40, 50, 60 AND 70% OF AMI SLIDE THREE SHOWS THE LOCATION, UM, SOUND THAT SHOWS US THE LOCATION OF SOUTH OF CASCADES AVENUE, THE PUBLIC ROADWAY ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY AS WENDY REFERENCE, THEY ALL TRAIL IT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS SHOWN ON SLIDE FOUR.THE ROADWAY WILL BE A 60 FOOT WIDE COLLECTOR.
ALTHOUGH THIS TRACK SEEMS TO BE IN A FLAT BLOCK CONFIGURATION.
IT WILL ACTUALLY IN FACT, HAVE OVER 1600 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON THIS PUBLIC ROADWAY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS PART OF THE CASCADES AT ONION CREEK WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS SCOTTSVILLE AND IT'S REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE RELATED TIA, WHICH WAS ALSO REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY TECH STOCK.
THE TIA WAS UPDATED AS RECENTLY AS DECEMBER, 2018.
THE PROJECT ANTICIPATED TRIPS PER DAY ARE LOW DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE INTENDED POPULATION.
THEREFORE, WE ANTICIPATE LITTLE TO NO IMPACT ON THE EXISTING TIA, BUT IT WILL BE FURTHER REVIEWED AT SITE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN SEE ON SLIDE FIVE, A CREEK RUNS ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY.
THE PROJECT WILL COMPLY WITH ALL CURRENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING THOSE RELATED TO CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND CREEK BUFFERS.
AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTED IN THE CASCADE PRELIMINARY PLAN, IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT, THE EASEMENT, THERE WAS AN EASEMENT PREVIOUSLY DEDICATED TO ALLOW A WASTEWATER LINE THAT WOULD RUN ALONG THE EDGE OF THE CREEK TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
CONSIDERING THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA OF THE CREEK, THIS WASTEWATER WILL NOT BE USED, BUT IT'S FITTED CONNECTIONS WILL BE MADE TO STUB OUT AVAILABLE ON MAY ALL TRAIL RIGHT AWAY.
THIS PROPERTY HAS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES AND TYPOGRAPHICAL CONSTRAINTS AS WELL AS THE CREEK BUFFER, WHICH CONSIDER BREE CONSIDERABLY REDUCES THE BUILDABLE AREA AS SUCH.
THE REQUESTED MS FOR ZONING PROVIDES THE INCREASED HEIGHT NECESSARY TO OPTIMIZE DEVELOPMENT WHILE PRESERVING AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
FURTHERMORE, DUE TO THE INTENDED DEMOGRAPHIC AND ELEVATOR IS ESSENTIAL AND THE INCREASED HEIGHT WILL ASSIST IN MAXIMIZING THE AVAILABLE AFFORDABLE UNITS UNDER THAT FOOTPRINT AS EVIDENCE BY SLIDE SIX, THE REQUESTED ZONING IS, IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA WITH MS. TWO LOCATED IN THE NORTH AND
THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER CURTIS DAVIDSON IS AVAILABLE ON THE PHONE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AS WELL AS JEFF HOWARD WITH GLENN AND HOWARD.
WE APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING THIS AND THEY'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THEN I BELIEVE JEFF HOWARD IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND HE WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MR. HOWARD, ARE YOU THERE? DO YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK ME? YES.
I'M JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT.
AND THEN, UH, CURTIS DAVIDSON HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND HE HAS THREE MINUTES.
MR. DAVIDSON, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? YES.
HI, MR. DAVIDSON CURTIS DAVIDSON.
YEAH, I'M SURE THIS IS CURTIN SEGMENT SENTENCE.
I THINK LACEY LAYS IT OUT AS WELL AS I COULD.
AND I'M JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
AND THEN, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY, I, ACCORDING TO MY LIST, THERE'S NOBODY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.
SO, UM, I GUESS LACY CAN DO A REBUTTAL, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S PROBABLY NECESSARY.
SO WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE QUESTIONS AND PLEASE, UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO RAISE YOUR HANDS USING OUR NEW ICON, UM, ASK, SPECIFY WHO YOU WANT TO ASK, ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO IF IT'S STAFF OR IF IT'S THE APPLICANT, SO THANKS.
AND I'M GOING TO SEE IF THIS HAND ICON WORKS FOR ME, ANY QUESTIONS, BRAY TESTING THAT OUT.
UM, SO I REALLY LIKED THIS PROJECT, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, MY ONLY MAJOR CONCERN WITH IT AND THIS ISN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE PROJECT.
THIS DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT I THINK THE PROJECT SHOULD BE AT ALL.
UM, BUT WHERE IT IS, UH, I WAS LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS ON LIKE ACCESS.
SO, AND IF YOU'RE COMING, LET ME SHARE A GOOGLE
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MAP.UM, MY POINT IS YOU CAN SEE IF SOMEONE'S COMING SOUTHBOUND AND THEY GET OFF THE ACCESS ROAD.
YOU HAVE TO GO THREE AND A HALF MILES OR SIX MINUTES DRIVING AND LOW TRAFFIC TO EFFECTIVELY MOVE 2000 FEET.
UM, AND I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO OTHER CONNECTIONS.
IT'S JUST LIKE NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
AND I MOSTLY BRING THIS UP JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE POINT THAT WE SHOULD BE FINDING A LOT BETTER PLACES TO PUT HOUSING LIKE THIS.
UM, I REALLY SEE NO REASON WHY THIS KIND OF PROJECT SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ANYWHERE IN CENTRAL AUSTIN.
UH, THE FACT THAT WE RESERVE MOST OF OUR CENTRAL CITY FOR MORE SUBURBAN, ONLY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND PUT DEVELOPMENT OUT HERE, I THINK IS TERRIBLE CITY PLANNING.
AND IT'S JUST A SIGN OF HOW BROKEN OUR PROCESSES RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE PUTTING PROJECTS LIKE THIS OUT HERE RATHER THAN PLACES WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE THINGS FOR FOLKS TO WALK TO, UH, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF MAKING THEM ALL DRIVE, ESPECIALLY CAUSE SOME OLDER FOLKS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DRIVE ANYMORE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
I, I LOVE IT, YOU KNOW, EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AS A CITY, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT IT, BUT I THINK JUST LOOKING TOWARDS THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO THINK A LOT BETTER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY, WHAT PART OF THE CITY GOES IN AND BE JUST LIKE ACCESS ROADS.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING DEVELOPMENTS ALONG ACCESS ROADS, WE NEED TO, MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH TECH STUFF AND MAKE THEM A TWO WAY INSTEAD OF ONE WAY.
SO PEOPLE AREN'T HAVING TO GO FOUR MILES, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR MILES OUT OF THE WAY JUST TO GO A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET.
AND THIS LITTLE HAND ICON THING IS NOT WORKING, BUT I WONDER IF IT'S BECAUSE THE HOST SEES IT AND NOT ME BECAUSE I DON'T SEE AND ICONS GONE UP WHEN PEOPLE CREST.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO ACROSS MY SCREEN.
I SEE DANCLER COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.
AND DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP COMMISSIONER SMITH? YES.
UH, IT BE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THIS PROJECT.
THERE'VE BEEN SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR RESOLVING A I'VE LIVED IN THIS PART OF TOWN FOR 30, SOME ODD YEARS.
AND THIS USED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
AND NOW WHAT YOU SEE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE IN THIS AREA.
SO I THINK THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING, THE COMMERCIAL, THE RETAIL, EVERYTHING WILL COME TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE FURNITURE BY 35 WOULD BE IMPROVED OVER TIME.
UH, I THINK WHAT YOU SEE IS HE HAS WE'RE ON THE OUTSKIRTS, BUT HE ASKED HER 20 YEARS AGO, AUSTIN WAS OLD WHORE.
UH, AND THAT WAS MOVED OUT TO HERE.
AND WHAT YOU SEE AS THIS DEVELOPMENT AS PHIL AGAIN, I GUESS, IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE SITE.
UH, AND HE WOULD HAVE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS WHEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, THEY WERE ALL APPROVED AND SUPPORTED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY GOTTEN MY SUPPORT.
THANK YOU THEN COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.
I WANT TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER, BUT I ALSO WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO POINT OUT THAT I STARTED THIS BEFORE WINTER PROPERTIES IN THE SOUTH VERY IMPORTANT AREA.
THERE'S THE ONLY TOWN CENTER SOUTH OF THE COLORADO RIVER, WHERE YOU HAVE SIX TOWN CENTERS AND IMAGINE AUSTIN FIVE OR NORTH, AND WE ARE NOT GIVING THIS THE ATTENTION AND THERE'S WORMS IN ME.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE MULTIFAMILY WHEN I 25.
I AGREE WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID ABOUT THE ISSUES.
I ALSO AGREE THAT PLANNING IS NOT JUST LAND USE IT'S CONNECTIVITY, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP.
I MEAN, THERE IS NO EAST WEST WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A MESS DOWN THERE IN SOUTH.
AUSTIN DESERVES A LOT BETTER THAN THAT.
THIS IS WHAT THEY CROSSROADS OF TWO OF OUR BIGGEST HIGHWAYS, ONLY FIVE AND 35.
I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I ACTUALLY FAVORED THIS APPLICATION MORE THAN THE OTHERS.
NOT THAT I DIDN'T, BECAUSE THIS IS A SENIOR CITIZENS PROJECT AND OVER 55 AND AS SUCH, IT WILL HAVE A LOWER TRIP GENERATION.
I EVEN LIKE THE WAY IT IS SET BACK BEHIND THE CHURCH, BECAUSE IT PUTS THEM A LITTLE, A BUFFER FROM THE NOISE OF THE HIGHWAY.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT AND I'M EAGER TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TELL OUR CITY MANAGER, IF HE OUGHT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SMALLER PLANNING AND THIS PORTION OF SOUTH AUSTIN BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
AND THEN COMMISSIONER KING, UH, THANK YOU.
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I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS CASE FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE AND ARE APPRECIATED.UH, UH, AND THE, THIS IS, THIS IS JUST OUTSIDE THE SOUTH SIDE, REGIONAL SPINNER, UM, AND THE, THAT CENTER IS DEVELOPING ALREADY.
THE TEXAS CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL IS BUILDING OUT THERE, IT'S CHANGING RAPIDLY.
AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, THAT WE WOULD GET SOME REGIONAL, SOME PLANNING OUT IN THIS AREA, SMALLER YOU'RE PLANNING IN THIS AREA.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO I'VE MET WITH SEVERAL OF THEM OUT HERE FOR ON THE PREVIOUS CASE, AND THEY WANT TO BE PART OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS.
THEY WANT THAT PLANNING PROCESS BECAUSE IT WILL HELP MAKE THINGS MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM AS THEY, AS THEY DEVELOP THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT THIS, THE CONNECTIVITY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THAT CAN BE PLANNED OUT IN ADVANCE, THEN IT CAN BE DONE MORE EFFICIENTLY TO BENEFIT EVERYONE.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, WE CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO DO SMALL AREA PLANNING.
AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IT, WE'RE PAYING MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE EXPENSES, MULTIPLE COSTS.
THEN WE SHOULD BE PAYING THEY'RE COMPOUNDED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PLANNING AND THE COORDINATION.
SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS I TALKED TO WOULD BE WILLING TO COORDINATE ON WHERE CONNECTIVITY IS WITH, WITH THE ROADWAYS AND ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UH, AND AVOID LIKE LIFT STATIONS FOR WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO REGIONAL PLANNING, THE SMALLER AREA PLANNING FOR A REGIONAL CENTER LIKE THIS WOULD REALLY HELP US BE MUCH MORE, I THINK COST EFFICIENT COST EFFECTIVE WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT WOULD HAVE A GOOD ON THE AFFORDABILITY GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONERS, CAUSE I, I REALIZED THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THIS HAND THING MORE.
I THINK IT DOES GO TO THE HOST.
UH, I HAVEN'T CALLED ON COMMISSIONER GARY.
I GET TO RAISE MY HAND AND GETTING WORK.
SO, UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE SOMETHING CALLED I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE AGE OF THE POPULATION THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED TO LIVE HERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? YOU BROKE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN? IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE APARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE SPRINKLED, SO, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE AGE OF THE POPULATION FOR FIRE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT THE WASTEWATER LINE IS GOING TO BE ALONG THE ROAD, NOT ALONG THE CREEK, CORRECT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL VERY YOUNG, BUT I FALL UNDER, I WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF MY CHILDREN CHOSE TO TAKE THE KEYS AWAY FROM YOU, WHAT MOBILITY OPTIONS WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THE RESIDENTS OTHER THAN STARDUST DAVIDSON FOR THAT QUESTION, CURTIS, CAN YOU HELP WITH THE, UM, MOBILITY QUESTION? THIS IS CARTER SOME ONLINE.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? THE QUESTION CERTAINLY.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL VERY YOUNG SOMEBODY THAT WAS SENIOR CITIZEN AT THIS GROUP.
UM, SO IF MY CHOICE, IF I CHOSE TO LIVE HERE AND IF MY CHILDREN DECIDED TO TAKE THE KEYS AWAY FROM ME, WHAT MOBILITY OPTIONS WOULD I HAVE SO THAT I COULD STAY THERE.
SO I MEAN, SO WHAT WE HAVE ON THIS, ON THE AFFORDABILITY SIDE IS THIS IS, THIS IS AN ACTIVE ADULT, INDEPENDENT LIVING PROJECT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BUILD ACCESSIBLE UNITS, OBVIOUSLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR WE DO HAVE IN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS HAVE, UM, A BAN POOL PER SE.
A LOT OF TIMES IT'S RUN BY A THIRD PARTY.
UM, IT'S KIND OF COMMON IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW ON THE SENIOR SIDE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY MANAGER MANAGING IT AND THEY HIRE A THIRD PARTY VAN POOL THAT TAKES PEOPLE TO THE SHOPPING CENTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE WILL BE ACCESSIBILITY IN THE UNITS AND GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE UNITS, THE RIGHT BAND FULL SYSTEM.
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MUCH.THIS IS A QUESTION TO MISS ELLERS OR MR. HOWARD.
AND THEN IF EVERYBODY, UH, HAS HAD A CHANCE TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER THAT, OR KIND OF LOOKING FOR SOME AMOUNT OF HEADS, UM, THE SELLERS OR MR. HOWARD ARE, Y'ALL APPLYING FOR TAX CREDITS WITH THIS.
HOW IS THE PROJECT GUARANTEED TO BE AT THE, UH, AT THE UNDER 60%? I MEANT BY THAT, MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, AND MR. DAVIDSON CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF YES, THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH, UH, THE HOUSING TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE.
I BLANKED ON THE NAME ALL OF A SUDDEN SMART, SMART HOUSING OR TAX CREDITS.
UM, SO JUST OUR COMPANY, WE ARE ACTUALLY JUST CLOSING ON THE TRACK ACROSS MAY ALL DRIVE, WHICH IS 264 UNITS.
AND THAT IS AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT ALSO.
SO WE'RE COMING TO THE MARKET RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT ACROSS MAIL.
UM, PROBABLY CLOSING NEXT WEEK, WE'RE DOING A PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE, ON THE 264 UNITS ACROSS THE STREET.
NOW ON THE SENIOR SIDE, WE HAVE NOT SELECTED WHO OUR PARTNER, WE WILL USE TAX CREDITS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE 4% TAX CREDITS OR THE COMPETITIVE 9%, WE DON'T TYPICALLY GO THAT ROUTE.
WE TYPICALLY GO WITH THE 4% TAX CREDITS AND PARTNER WITH, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE CITY, BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ARE IN COMMUNICATION WITH TRAVIS COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS UNTIL WE GET THE ZONING CASE COMPLETED.
WE, WE CAN'T REALLY MOVE FORWARD TOO MUCH.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY IS WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND THE PROCESS, HAS YOU GETTING THE ZONING CHANGE FIRST AND THEN GETTING, UM, THE TAX CREDITS OR THE SMART HOUSING? IS THAT THE ORDER OR PROCESS? YES, MA'AM.
WELL, IF FOLKS ARE, HEY, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION.
I SEE, I SEE COMMISSIONER EVANS NOW BETWEEN COMMISSIONER BRAND.
I, I HAVE RECEIVED CONTROL OF THIS MEETING.
UM, AND I SEE THAT COMMISSIONER EVANS HAS HIS HAND UP AND SO I WANT TO GET TO HIM AND HE HASN'T AND COMMISSIONER RAY.
OH, NO, NOT RE COMMISSIONER EVANS.
MY HAND MAY BE UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT I CLICKED IT OFF, SO NO QUESTIONS READY FOR A MOTION.
EVERYBODY TAKE YOUR HANDS DOWN IF YOU'VE, UM, AND I'M GOING TO GO BY THE HANDS ICONS NOW, BECAUSE I DO, UM, BECAUSE I DO, I CAN SEE THAT.
SO ANYBODY STILL HAVE, HAVE THEIR HAND UP FOR THIS AND OKAY.
COMMISSIONER, CAN I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THE, ON THE, UH, AFFORDABILITY? UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND IT IS, IS THAT FOR 40 YEARS OR LONGER, WHAT, HOW LONG IS THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD? AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE 4% TAX CREDIT THEY'RE GOING TO GO FOR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
CHRIS, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING TO GET AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT? UM, WILL IT BE 40 YEARS? OKAY.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS CURTIS AGAIN.
UM, TYPICALLY, AND, AND THAT'S, IT, IT WILL DEPEND ON KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE GO, WHETHER WE GO WITH THE CITY OF CITY OF AUSTIN HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH TRAVIS COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY, IF WE GO WITH A 4% BOND OR IF WE DEAL WITH THE 9% BONDS, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF NEW TYPE OF FINANCING OUT THERE FOR, UH, AFFORDABLE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING.
BUT IN THE TYPICAL, UM, AFFORDABILITY UNDER THE LURA UNDER THE
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AGREEMENT THAT WE WILL SIGN IS TYPICALLY A 30 YEAR AFFORDABILITY LINK.AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT IF, IF THE, IF THE TAX FINANCING DOES NOT GO THROUGH, UH, FOR SOME REASON THEN, UH, ARE YOU, ARE YOU COULD THIS BECOME A MARKET RATE? I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
LET ME JUST GET THIS ON THE RECORD.
I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS, FOR THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT HERE, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOOD AND IMPORTANT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE FOCUSING ON 60 MEDIAN FAMILY OR, OR AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND BELOW DEDICATING SPECIFIC NUMBERS OF UNITS TO THE 30%.
SO I WANT TO TELL YOU, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
SO I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF YOUR PROJECT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS HERE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH, WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER OPTIONS OF GETTING AFFORDABILITY HERE? LIKE, LIKE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WANT TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE ANY OTHER REAL ESTATE PROJECT IS THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WE WANT TO BRING, UH, AN AFFORDABLE SENIOR PROJECT TO THIS LOCATION.
AND THEN THAT'S THE, OUR, OUR COMPANY IS VERY FOCUSED ON THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT.
IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN THE MARKET'S GOING TO TELL US WHAT THERE, I MEAN, WOULD IT BE A SENIOR PROJECT OR WOULD IT BE A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALREADY DOING 264 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AND SO, AND THAT'S USING A HOOD 2.1 FOR A WHILE, AND SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET OCCUPIED BEFORE YOU DO ANOTHER PROJECT.
SO I MADE MY SECOND CHOICE WOULD MAYBE TO DO A PHASE TWO OF JUST A FREE SUPPORTABLE PROJECT.
AND THEN IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, THEN WE'LL PROBABLY GO TO A MARKET.
I WON'T HOLD YOU ANY LONGER BECAUSE I KNOW YOU NEED TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE SO YOU CAN GET IT BUILT OUT AND THESE PEOPLE CAN LIVE THERE.
AND THEN, UH, I SEE, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN AND COMMISSIONER DINKLER HAVE THEIR HANDS RAISED.
IS THAT ON PURPOSE MORE? UM, AND FOR DINKLER YES, COMMISSIONER BENKLER.
I WAS GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING.
UM, MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER.
DANCLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS ON THE SCREEN SO I CAN SEE THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE THAT.
SO YOU NANA ANIMIST AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU APPLICANT FOR STICKING THROUGH OUR LITTLE TRAINING ON HAND RAISING VIA ICONS AND NEXT, UH, OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS WE HAVE NOTHING UNDER NEW BUSINESS E
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ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSIONAND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE I HAD TO, I HAD TO INTERMEDIATE, UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER DUNKIN HAS A PRESENTATION, SO I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT.
ARE YOU READY? UM, SOME OF MY, UH, I'M USING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY AGAIN, TO TIE INTO SOME MATERIAL THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING OVER FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
UM, THAT'S NOT, NOT OKAY HERE AT JOHN'S.
UH, I HAD, WELL, SOME OF MY COMMENTS MAY SOUND NEGATIVE.
I REALLY WANT IT TO BE TAKEN IN A POSITIVE TONE.
UM, I'M WAITING FOR THE FIRST SLIDE HERE FIRST.
ALL I SEE AS A CHECK SHEET, DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE SOMETHING ELSE? I SEE GRAY TOO, OR, OKAY.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS ALL TIED
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IN AND PART OF WHAT WE DID DISCUSSED THIS LAST WEEK LEVER, UH, THIS IS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, THE NOTIFIER THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM, THAT EXPENDITURES, AND I KIND OF WANTED TO TIE THEM IN TOGETHER.UM, LAST THREE YEARS AGO AT THE TIME THAT, UH, WE SUSPENDED OUR TABLE, UH, THE ADDRESS THREE, UH, THE COST OF CODE NEXT TO COME THROUGH ABOUT EIGHT AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND, UH, I THINK HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WENT ALL BEEN EXCITED AND HAPPY IF WE HAD A PROJECT THAT WE COULD HAVE.
UM, I KNOW HANDSOME SAYING COME BY A YARD AND MOVE FORWARD.
UM, I'D PROBABLY CLICK THE NEXT ONE AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IT WAS, WELL, THIS WAS A HEADLINE TO THE STATEMENT AS THE TERM IS ANXIETY GROWS WELL, IT'S THREE YEARS NOW, IT'S PAST AND WE'VE AUTHORIZED ANOTHER FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, UH, TWO AND A HALF, WHATEVER THE CROCK CODE, WHICH I CALL DRAFT FOUR.
AND I'M NOT SURE THE AMOUNT, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN REVEALED, BUT I'VE THROWN OUT $2 MILLION FOR LITIGATION AND HAS, AND WE SPENT MORE TIME IN THE COURTROOM THAN WE HAVE IN THE CODE ROOM, UH, WHICH CODE NEXT IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
AND NOW BEFORE US TO CHECK AND SAY ANOTHER REQUEST FOR ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS, 200,000 AUTHORIZED LAST MONTH, AND THEN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, 860, 2,500 FOR CODE NEXT, WHICH BRINGS A TOTAL OF $14 MILLION.
I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, REMIND EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I JUST SPENT 60 YEAR CAREER MAPPING, COLORED SLIP.
THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT, WELL, IN FACT, IT'S THREE TIMES THE COST OF ANY OTHER CODES THAT'S EVER BEEN FACTORED IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, MOST EXPENSIVE DRUG THAT I KNOW OF WAS LOS ANGELES AT 5 MILLION, MIAMI HAD 4 MILLION IN A CODE THAT WE DID NOT.
MY FRIEND DID FOR CITY OF CHICAGO FOR LESS THAN TWO MINUTES SO THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND, AND AN EFFORT TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.
UM, I, UH, UH, I, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS, BUT IT, IT, IT SORT OF REMINDS ME OF A QUOTE BY ONE OF MY FAVORITE AUSTINITES TEXANS, MOLLY.
IVAN'S MOLLY WOULD SAY THAT, UH, UM, SHE CALLED IT HER FIRST, FIRST RULE OF HOLES WHEN YOU'RE IN THE WIND, YOU STOP DIGGING.
AND AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO REALLY STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS CLAIM.
IN ADDITION TO THIS, UH, ONE MORE TIME.
IT IS, I, I, AT LEAST I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.
I'M SUPPOSED TO LITIGATE EACH OUT OF FOUR TIMES.
WE'VE BEEN TO THE END INTO THE COURTS.
FOUR TIMES SAID HE HAS NOT COME OUT VICTORIOUS, UH, UH, TRUMP THE OTHER DAY AND SAID THE MISTAKE WE MADE, WE SHOULD IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A TRAIN WRECK.
WE SHOULD'VE TURNED IT OVER TO THOMAS AND GO AHEAD AND DO IT ON COMMISSION, UH, CLICK AT THE, IN THAT IN 2018, WHENEVER WE TOOK THE PAUSE ON CODE THREE, I PUT FORTH THESE 10 SUGGESTIONS, THE CITY MANAGER, UH, PRESENTED THEM WHAT I HOPED TO BE A VERY POSITIVE WAY OF MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY, UH, CLICK, UH, CO THE CROP CODE DRAFT FOUR, HOWEVER ONLY TOOK ONE OF THEM.
THE HARD THEY CHANGED THE NAME CODE NEXT IT'S NOW OFFICIALLY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, FAILED TO SEEK OUTSIDE REVIEW AND ADVICE AND HIRED EXPENDITURE PROJECT MANAGER.
UH, I THINK THESE TWO ARE CRITICAL AND THEY'RE SORT OF TIED IN WITH SOME PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE MADE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO ABOUT WE'VE TURNED IT OVER TO MY MANAGEMENT TEAM.
MAY THE PR REPRESENTATIVES RATHER THAN PLANNERS.
UH, WE, WE ALSO NEEDED TO START CLEANING UP THE TALK.
WE HAVE IGNORED A LOT OF THINGS, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH EXISTING JOKE.
THAT'S NOT EVEN THE ISSUE, UH, AND WE COULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY.
AND, UM, AND THE PROCESS ITSELF HAS NOT BEEN AS OPEN WITH TRYING TO GO AHEAD, CLICK AGAIN.
I THOUGHT I'D PUT THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MY PERSPECTIVE BEFORE WE ARE.
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IN THIS CITY, IT BRINGS, WE NEED A NEW CODE.WE NEED A CODE THAT TRULY IMPLEMENTED.
IMAGINE AUSTIN NOT I'VE DONE CHERRY PICK, OR WE NEED A PLAN DRIVEN, CHOSEN, AND NOT A MARKET DRIVEN CODE.
WE NEED TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR ALL, NOT JUST THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY.
WE NEED TO PROMOTE REAL HEALTHY AND FORWARD AFFORDABILITY OR THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT.
AND NOT JUST AT THE HIGH TECH INDUSTRY THAT'S COMING IN AND THEY COULD AFFORD TO BUY AN APARTMENT DOWNTOWN, THE MILLION DOLLAR APARTMENTS DOWNTOWN.
WE MUST CONTINUE TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES.
WE MUST PRESERVE OUR HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
PEOPLE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN MANY FACES.
THAT'S THE ONLY INVESTMENT THEY HAVE IN THE CITY.
UH, AND THAT'S WHAT RETIREMENT IS.
AND WE MUST FACILITATE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AS FAR AS THE DOCUMENT, IT HAS TO BE EASY, FINE, AND USER FRIENDLY FOR US TO GO TO A CODE OF LESS THAN A THOUSAND PAPER PAGES, WHICH WAS RIDICULOUS.
I TOLD THIS MAN OVER 1500 IS EVEN MORE RIDICULOUS.
UH, AND THE PAST THE PROCESS HAS TO BE POSITIVE.
W W W WE NEED TO HAVE A CODE THAT REPRESENTS EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY, AND WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH THE DEMONIZATION OF THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THIS QUICK ONE, UH, UH, WITH TWO QUOTES AND I'VE SENT THEM BEFORE AND I LIVE BY THEM AND I LOVE THEM.
AND THE TWO GREAT QUOTES BY TWO GREAT TEXANS AND BOTH OF WHOM HAPPEN TO IT'S BEEN TESTED IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS SUPPOSED TO LIVE AT THE BEACH JOHNSON'S LIFE.
AND THAT'S FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH, THIS COME DOWN, THOSE REASONS TOGETHER.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS I AM A UNITER, NOT A DIVIDER.
I, GEORGE WALKER, BUSH, WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR WAYS AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, AND, UM, ANY COMMENTS ON ANYTHING AND YOU CAN USE, USE THE HAND ICON.
RAISE YOUR HAND AND ANYBODY WERE USING THE HAND.
OH, ACTUALLY THEY TOOK THE BALL.
WELL, THANK YOU, JIM, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, THE HISTORY THERE.
AND I AGREE WITH YOUR, YOUR POINTS.
I THINK THOSE THINGS WOULD HELP US WITH OUR NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND, UH, I JUST WONDER IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE FROM STAFF ON WHAT TO EXPECT.
IS THERE SOME FEEDBACK ARE Y'ALL GETTING FEEDBACK? YEAH.
SO I JUST WONDER IF HE MIGHT GET AN UPDATE FROM STAFF AT ONE OF OUR UPCOMING MEETINGS, UH, ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S BEING PLANNED FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE NEXT YEAR.
AND I KNOW THE LAWSUIT IS, IS IN PLAY THERE, BUT WHAT WORK IS THE STAFF DOING ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE MEANTIME? UM, AND, UH, JUST, JUST AN UPDATE, UM, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE ZONING MAP, UH, WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE AND WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH IT IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WE'LL CALL THIS AGENDA ITEM ITSELF.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE POSTED AS A NEW ITEM.
AND THEN I SEE COMMISSIONER BRAY HAS HIS HAND UP, GOT TO REMEMBER TO PUT MY LOWER MY HAND AND PUT THE MIC OFF.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THOSE, I THINK HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT COMMISSIONER DUNKIN HAD TO SAY.
UM, I DO FEEL LIKE THERE'S A BIG PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT, UM, I, I THINK A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION TO THE CODE HAS BEEN IN BAD FAITH.
I THINK THAT ENTIRE LAWSUIT, ALMOST EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS IN BAD FAITH.
UM, AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO TO HAVE A POSITIVE, CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATION WHEN SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING IN BAD FAITH.
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN LIKE REPUBLICANS ON OBAMACARE LEVEL IGNORING THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM, COMPLETELY JUST MAKING STUFF UP ABOUT WHAT THE CODE SUPPOSED TO DO.
FEAR-MONGERING UM, AND, AND SO WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M TRYING TO AVOID BEING TOO NEGATIVE MYSELF, BUT I ALSO WANT TO LIKE, JUST CALL THAT OUT THAT WE CAN'T,
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YOU KNOW, SUFFER TRYING TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION WHEN THERE'S LOUD VOICES JUST THAT ARE COMPLETELY MAKING THINGS UP AND DELIBERATELY MISLEADING THE PUBLIC.UM, ANOTHER THOUGHT I HAD ABOUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THERE'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT TO A LARGE DEGREE.
THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS ON THIS.
AND I, MY, MY OPINION ON THE CODE REWRITE PROCESS IS THE TWO FUNDAMENTALLY CONSERVATIVE WE'RE STARTING WITH WHERE WE ARE, WHAT THE ZONING IS NOW AND NOT, WHERE DO WE NEED TO BE? YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW MANY, HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS DO WE HAVE TO BE? AND, YOU KNOW, W WE NEED TO START FROM THE GROUND UP IN TERMS OF WHY WE HAVE REGULATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE STUFF LIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE PARKING MAXIMUMS, THE PARKING MINIMUMS. UH, I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT HEIGHT.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AESTHETICS OF HEIGHT, LIKE OUR HOUSING CRISIS A HUNDRED TIMES MORE IMPORTANT THAN, YOU KNOW, HOW HIGH BUILDINGS ARE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE OUR COACH HAS TO FUNDAMENTALLY CONSERVATIVE.
AND WE JUST NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S DIFFERENCES OF FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, UM, ALL, ALL OVER AUSTIN.
AND WE CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALISTIC TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO AGREE ON, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T BE RESPECTFUL AND FIND POINTS WHERE EVERYONE WOULD AGREE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HAVE A 1500 PAGE CODES.
I THINK, LIKE I DO THINK THERE WOULD BE AGREEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD ON THAT, BUT A THINGS ON WHEN I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY, SOME PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THAT SUPPLY AND DEMAND EXISTS FOR HOUSING.
WE'RE NOT REALISTICALLY GOING TO HAVE AGREEMENT OR AT LEAST I DON'T THINK, I DON'T SEE A REALLY REALISTIC WAY TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WHEN YOU HAVE JUST FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES ABOUT HOW THE HOUSING MARKET WORKS AND HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT.
SORRY, COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND YOU'VE GOT TO UNMUTE, COULDN'T HEAR YOU FOR A MINUTE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT SYMBOL.
AND THEN I'LL JUST IGNORE YOUR HAND AND THEN COMMISSIONER, UH, AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE TAKE YOUR HAND OUT.
AND SO YOU DON'T, SO COMMISSIONER DAN, COREY, YOU DON'T HAVE A COMMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, GREAT.
AND THEN ACTUALLY I WILL, I WILL, UM, RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU SAW HER OR NOT.
I'VE BEEN USING THE ICON THING.
SO I'VE BEEN, I LOOK AT THE ICON NOW SINCE OKAY.
UM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I GUESS, PERSONALLY, I HAVEN'T SUFFERED AS MUCH TRAUMA FROM THE CODE NEXT PROCESS.
AS A LOT OF PEOPLE, I WAS FORTUNATE TO DUCK OUT FROM THE YEARS 2015 TO 2017.
THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT OF A HOPE ABOUT HOW WE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, I THINK THE MAIN THING, THAT'S A REALLY SIMPLE POINT, BUT ONE WE NEED TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T PASSED A NEW CODE IS PRECISELY WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ONION CREEK RIGHT NOW, AND WHY WE'RE HAVING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT MOBILITY OPTIONS EVEN EXIST FOR SENIORS WHEN THEY'RE RELEGATED TO THIS AREA OFF THE SIDE OF AN ACCESS ROAD.
SO AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO BELEAGUER THIS PROCESS AND NOT MOVE FORWARD IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS US JUST TO BUILD MORE HOUSING PERIOD IN AUSTIN, CENTRAL CORE, UM, THE WORSE, OUR OPTIONS ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR CITY.
I KNOW IT'S NOT AS MUCH IN THE TRENCHES AS EVERYONE ELSE.
THAT'S BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR SO MANY YEARS, BUT, UM, I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP AND I WANT TO ECHO CALLS FOR UPDATES FROM STAFF.
SO THE ZAP CAN CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD, AND A COMMISSION COMMISSIONER CAN'T OR KENDRA.
DO YOU WANT ME TO SPEAK AND, UM, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP ON THE VIRTUAL THING? CAN YOU, CAN YOU, YES, I'M SORRY.
I APPRECIATE THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES I TRULY DO.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND RESPECT THOSE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AS WELL.
BUT IT, IT, I THINK IT'S OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO AND UPDATE TO REFLECT SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVES THAT, THAT I'M HEARING.
THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE SHOULD PRETTY MUCH PUT MOST OF THE NEW HOUSING AND THE DENSITY IN THE URBAN CORE.
AND THAT, THAT PART, MAYBE I'M NOT EXACTLY REFLECTING
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WHAT I'VE HEARD.THAT'S NOT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAVE REGIONAL CENTERS, WE HAVE TOWN CENTERS AND JOB CENTERS IN WHICH WE'RE S THERE'S A, POSTIT DESIGNED TO CAPTURE THAT DENSITY AND WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.
SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM.
PEOPLE LOOK AT, IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE WOODEN BOARD, THE WAY THEY SEE IT.
IT'S NOT BEING IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE WE HEAR THE VOICES.
PEOPLE HEAR THE VOICES THAT PUT ALL THE DENSITY IN THE URBAN CORE.
DON'T DO VERY MUCH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
AND SO THAT'S, I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY ONE OF THE ISSUES, IF WE WANT THAT, IF WE WANT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSITY IN THE URBAN COAL, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HAVE IT SAY THAT BECAUSE OTHERWISE I DO THINK THAT THAT'S A ROOT OF A LOT OF CONFLICT AND THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
AND I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND UPDATE THAT TO REFLECT WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CITY, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT DOES BASED ON THE RESULTS OF ALL THE WORK WE'D DONE ON CODE NEXT AND THE PROPOSED NEW DON'T LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND, UM, ANYBODY ELSE WITH THEIR HANDS UP, THEN, I'LL SAY THAT THOSE FOUR, FOUR FOR A FEW YEARS, THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION WAS VERY PROACTIVE ON CODE NEXT.
AND IN FACT, SOMEBODY JUST REMINDED ME ABOUT A FEW ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO OF OUR UNANIMOUS RESOLUTION CALLING FOR THE CITY FOR THE DRAFTERS OF THE CODE TO RELEASE THE TEXT FIRST AND GET THE TEXT RIGHT BEFORE GOING TO THE MAPS, WHICH WAS OUR FIRST RESOLUTION, WHICH ACTUALLY CREATED, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUS AND IT DID CREATE A PHONE CALL FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
UM, AND, BUT IT STARTED OUR PATH FORWARD ON POINTING OUT SORT OF THE BASICS TO THE CODE, LIKE MAKE IT SHORTER.
WE ENDED UP WITH A LONGER CODE, LIKE 1500 PAGES AND MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.
AND AS YOU SAW FROM MY PRESENTATION ON NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES, COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES, IT SEEMS TO HAVE GOTTEN MORE CONFUSING AND IT MAY BE PUTTING PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES IN JEOPARDY IF IT PASSES, BUT BACK TO OUR RESOLUTIONS.
AND I THINK I'LL, UM, SINCE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, I THINK I MAY ASK ANDREW TO SEND THEM JUST AS A REFRESHER, BECAUSE WE WERE UNANIMOUS AT FIRST ON A LOT OF OUR COMMENTS.
AND IT WAS REALLY JUST BASIC COMMENTS.
AND I WAS TRYING TO FIND THEM RIGHT NOW WHILE RUNNING THE MEETING, BUT I CAN'T, BUT DEFINITELY IT WAS KEEP IT SIMPLE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE, THAT ARE JUST COMMON SENSE NOW, AND YOU LOOK BACK AT IT AND MISTAKES, AND YOU THINK, UM, IF, IF ONLY WE HAD HAD, UH, IF ONLY, ONLY THEY HAD JUST EVEN JUST LISTENED TO GET THE TEXT, RIGHT.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR US TO DISCUSS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO FURTHER, BUT ALSO IT IS BEING LITIGATED.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THAT MA WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON YEAH.
BUT, UM, I, AND SO THAT IS JUST HOW I WOULD END IT.
UM, WE, UM, SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS WE SPENT, UM, WE WERE, WE HAD REGULARLY OR SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS ALL THE TIME.
AND I THINK, I EVEN REMEMBER WE HAD ONE, MAYBE IF IT WASN'T OCTOPUS, HALLOWEEN, IT WAS THE DAY BEFORE HALLOWEEN.
AND WE WERE HAVING THEM EVERY WEEK AND MAYBE TWICE A WEEK.
AND SO, WELL, WE DID A DEAL WE DID OR DO DEALS AND, UM, AND IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S FALLEN INTO ALL THESE FACTIONS AND ALL THAT.
BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE IF, IF WE HAD JUST, IF WE HAD JUST RECEIVED A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION EARLY ON, I THINK A LOT OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED, SO THAT'S MY 4 CENTS WORTH.
AND, UM, SO WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER TO HAVE THIS AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
AND ON THAT NOTE, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE CAN GO
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TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS BECAUSE I'VE GOT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO PUT ON THAT IS COMING OUT OF THE BLUE.I'M WAITING FOR THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.
THEN NEXT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL GO FIRST BECAUSE I WILL PUT THE, UM, ANNUAL REPORT IS THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT ON THERE.
I STILL HAVE TO WRITE IT, BUT I WILL WRITE A DRAFT AND IT'LL CIRCULATE.
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AND THEN COMMISSIONER GARY.UM, I WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE RECEIVED FROM THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE OVERALL, UH, NEED CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UM, AND THIS IS IN LIGHT OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEN ALL ALONG UPPER ONION CREEK.
AND THEN NOT ONLY POSTED AS A DISCUSSION, I MEAN A BRIEFING, BUT ALSO POSSESS A POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM, GETTING OF WHAT THEY PROVIDE.
UM, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.
AND IF WE DON'T PLAN CAREFULLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE POTENTIAL FLOOD DANGERS, SO FORTH, LOWER ONION CREEK ON INTO DEL VALLEY.
AND, UM, SO OBVIOUSLY DISTRICT TWO.
UM, AND SO THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING DISPLACED AND THEN THE CITY IN, IN CURVES BUYOUT COSTS, WHICH IS NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS WHO PRIMARILY WERE THE CORE OF MOST DISTRICTS, STATISTICALLY SPEAKING.
I'LL CO-SPONSOR THAT WITH HER WITH OKAY.
CAN SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER GARY CO-SPONSORED BY COMMISSIONER CREEK.
AND I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I HAD NOTICED THAT TOO, THAT WE WERE GETTING MORE PROJECTS FOR ONION CREEK.
AND CHAIR, MAY I POINT OUT THAT THAT AREA IS ALSO THE SOUTH SIDE NEUTRAL CENTER? THAT'S BUILDING OUT IN A COUPLE OF CASES.
I DON'T KNOW OUR AGENDA FEED INTO THAT AND THEN THAT WATERSHED.
SO I THINK IT IS A GOOD TIMING FOR THIS, UH, FOR THIS ITEM.
AND ANYBODY ELSE, UM, HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO I'M NEW D NEW BUSINESS? I MEAN, YEAH.
A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I MEAN, COMMISSIONER, THEY TALK AS A COMMISSIONER GARY ABOUT SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD BE GETTING ON, BUT I'LL, I'LL CHECK IN WITH HER FIRST.
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO JUST MENTION, I'LL JUST SEE IF SHE'S INTERESTED FIRST.
ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY, GOOD.
THEN IT MEANS THAT WE ARE, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
[G. COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS]
BOB, A PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR THE 12TH OF AUGUST.AND IT WILL START AT 10:00 AM.
I COMPLETELY FORGOT ANY JOINT COMMITTEE UPDATES.
SO THAT WAS THE SMALL AREA PLAN UPDATE THAT YOU'RE MEETING.
AND SO I TAKE IT, NO OTHER, UM, JOINT COMMITTEES HAVE MET YET, CORRECT? NO REPORTS FROM CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED, SO THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
WHAT'S WHAT WAS ABOUT WHAT WAS, UH, A WORD JOURNEY? UH, HEY, CROSS THE DESERT IN THE SPRING AND THAT HE HURT.