[Urban Transportation Commission]
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THERE ALSO WAS THE PROPOSAL TO ADD, TO SORT OF ELECTED OFFICIAL TYPE POSITIONS TO THIS BOARD.UM, AND I THINK THAT'S IN THE ILA.
I LIKE EVERYTHING JUST HAPPENED SO RAPIDLY, BUT, UM, THAT WOULD BE ONE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL NUMBER AND ONE, UH, CAP METRO BOARD MEMBER.
SO YEAH, WHAT I REALLY PROPOSED THAT IS DIFFERENT HERE IS ADDING IN, IN OTHER TOOTH POSITIONS, WHICH WOULD BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND I TRIED TO, UM, I GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS WHO READ THIS PROPOSAL IN THE BACKUP AND WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE TWEAK THIS AND I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS HERE.
UM, BUT I TRIED TO GET AT SOME THINGS THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE DIVERSE TYPES OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, SO IT SAYS REQUIRE THE TWO COMMUNITY-BASED BOARD MEMBERS COLLECTIVELY HAVE THE FOLLOWING EXPERTISE, EXPERIENCE RIDES, TRANSIT, INTERACTS WITH THEM AND UNDERSTANDS THE NEEDS OF TRANSIT DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION EXPERIENCE WITH LABORING WORKER RIGHTS EXPERIENCES, SERVING ADVISORY GROUPS, SUCH AS CITY OF AUSTIN, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, UH, CAPITOL METRO CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, ADVISORY COMMITTEE, OR CAPITAL METRO ACCESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I HAD RECEIVED FROM CITIZENS, UH, INCLUDED, UH, WELL, ONE WAS THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMISSION.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT, UM, DISABILITY.
I THINK THE CLAUSES TRANSIT DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS OR CAPITAL MECCAS METRO ACCESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE MIGHT GET AT SOME OF THAT.
WE COULD TRY TO MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE.
UM, AND THERE ANOTHER SET OF FEEDBACK I GOT WAS ABOUT, UM, MAYBE PUTTING, UM, PROJECT CONNECT, AMBASSADOR NETWORK MCAC EXPERIENCE, OR MAYBE PUTTING SOME DIFFERENT, ADDING A FEW MORE OR COMMISSIONS TO ADVISE IN THAT LIST OF ADVISORY GROUPS.
BUT, UM, I'M TOTALLY OPEN THERE.
THE IDEA IS JUST TO, UM, GET SOME REALLY PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND CAUSE YOU CAN BE, UH, A LONG TIME PLANNER OR ENGINEER CONSTRUCTION PERSON, UM, AND ACTUALLY NOT RIDE TRANSIT OR TALK TO PEOPLE WHO RIDE TRANSIT OR UNDERSTAND THE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF TRANSIT DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S TRYING TO GET AT IS, IS, UH, JUST MAKING IT MORE FLEXIBILITY OF WHO CAN HAVE EXPERTISE TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF EXPERTISE, RIGHT? NOT ALL OF IT COMES FROM PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING, RIGHT.
A TRANSIT RIDERS KNOW THEIR EXPERIENCE AND CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LOT BETTER SOMETIMES THAN PEOPLE WHO JUST ARE PUSHING, UH, FIGURES AROUND.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S TRYING TO DO.
UM, SO, UM, AND I THINK IT'S ALL REALLY FAST MOVING.
SO IF THERE'S SOME WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THE WORDING BETTER, UH, AND ALL, SO ANOTHER THING I PUT ON HERE, THE FINAL CLAUSE, I ALMOST FORGOT.
IT SAYS REQUIRE THE BOARD TO VOTE ON RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY ITS COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO IN THE ILA, IT ALSO PROPOSES TO HAVE A COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THAT WOULD ADVISE A LOT ON THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT METHODS.
UM, UH UNFUNDING BUT REALLY IT COULD ADVISE ON ANY PART OF THE TRE OR PROJECT CONNECT IMPLEMENTATION.
AND SO REQUIRING THE BOARD TO ACTUALLY, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'VE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION AND FEEL LIKE WE MAKE A LOT OF REALLY STRONG RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOMETIMES MAYBE FEEL IGNORED.
UM, SO REQUIRING THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON AND CONSIDER THE, THE, WHAT IS COMING OUT OF THE MORE GRASSROOTS LEVEL ADVISORY COMMITTEE COULD BE HELPFUL.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF YOU WERE SENT THE PUMA MEMO, UM, BUT IT IS HELPFUL.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
I THINK THERE MAY NOT BE ANY SPEAKERS, BUT, UM, AND I THINK PUMA EVEN HAD AN OPEN HOUSE MAYBE ON MONDAY.
I WASN'T ABLE TO GO WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT THIS MORE.
I'LL STOP AND WE CAN DISCUSS, BUT THAT'S MY EMOTION I'M REALLY OPEN TO, LIKE I SAID, TWEAKING THE LINE, WHICH TO, OR MAKE THINGS BETTER.
ALLIE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE WE, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, JUST, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A, A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PUT FORTH A STRONG RECOMMENDATION, LIKE SUSAN SAID.
SO, UM, OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR QUESTIONS FOR SUSAN OR ALLIE OR, UM, DISCUSSION.
UH, SOMEONE TO FRANCO HERE, SUSAN,
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THIS IS I'VE BEEN, I WAS JUST HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, UM, OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS CONCERNING YOUR LAST BIT RESOLVE.
AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY, I WASN'T AWARE THIS WAS GOING TO BE ON HERE.
I'M JUST READING THE BACKUP, UH, YOU KNOW, EARLIER TODAY.
UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
AND THIS IS A VERY POSITIVE THING.
I THINK THAT THIS IS NEEDED FOR SURE.
UM, I AGREE THAT WHEN I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I AM TALKING TO SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE INITIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS, UM, TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD WERE VERY ONEROUS AND THEY WERE GOING TO LEND THEMSELVES STRICTLY TO LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, AN OLDER POPULATION, UM, AND POTENTIALLY NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THIS, IN, IN OUR, UH, IN OUR CITY.
UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS GENERALLY.
UM, IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THIS, BUT WHAT IS THE CURRENT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROCESS ENVISIONED FOR, FOR APPOINTING THESE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD MEMBERS, ASSUMING THEY MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS WHO HAS THE FINAL SAY ON WHO'S ON THIS BOARD? IS IT, IS IT, UH, IS IT THE JOINT, UH, JOINT MEETING OF COUNCIL AND CAP METRO? IS IT HANDPICKED BY, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, AND, UM, POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, CEO OF CAP METRO, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO READ THE FULL ILA.
LET ME GIVE, GIVE ME A SECOND.
AND I THINK I CAN PULL IT UP REAL QUICKLY.
UM, IF ANYBODY ELSE KNOWS PLEASE RESPOND.
AND THEN MY OTHER GENERAL QUESTION IS, UM, AROUND THE WORDS, NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, WHY NO MORE AND WHY NOT? NO LESS THAN SAY FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE.
I WAS TRYING TO SAY, UM, NOT, NOT TO REQUIRE MORE THAN 10, LIKE NOT TO REQUIRE 11 OR 15 OR 20 OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER MIGHT BE.
UM, I SAW THAT PUMA WAS RECOMMENDING NO MORE THAN SEVEN.
UM, I THINK THAT CAT METRO REALLY, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE REALLY PUSHING FOR THIS, UM, BECAUSE THEY WANT, UM, REALLY CONTENT AREA EXPERTS IN GUIDING HAVING SOME GUIDANCE TO THIS PROCESS.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO SEVEN, 10, I THINK MORE THAN 10 IS, IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CRAZY.
AND IF YOU START TO THINK ABOUT WHO WOULD EVEN QUALIFY AND NOT BE CONFLICTED OUT OF SERVING IT'S, UM, IT STARTS TO GET A LITTLE COMPLICATED.
I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, I'M LOOKING UP THE INFORMATION ABOUT APPOINTING PEOPLE.
I THINK THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT RESUMES.
I THINK THE, UM, LET'S SEE, IT MAY BE MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S IN THE STATEMENT, BUT THE WAY I, THE WAY I READ IT, UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN JUST CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT THE WAY I READ IT IS, IS LIMITING SOMEONE TO NOT HAVING MORE THAN 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
BUT LIKE I SAID, MAYBE I'M INTERPRETING THAT WRONG.
LIKE WE CAN MAYBE, MAYBE BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, LOWERING THE THRESHOLD TWO TO FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, NO LESS THAN FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT NOT REQUIRING SOME UNGODLY AMOUNT WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS IS, IS WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND.
I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.
SO HERE LET ME, I HAVE, UM, SO THE IDEA IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE, UM, SUCCEEDING COMMUNITY EXPERT DIRECTORS SHALL BE SELECTED THROUGH A NOMINATION AND APPOINTMENT PROCESS OR IN QUALIFIED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
SHE'LL SUBMIT APPLICATION TO THE CORPORATIONS, WHICH WILL PROVIDE APPLICATIONS THAT MEET CRITERIA TO NOMINATING COMMITTEE AS DEFINED BELOW THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE WILL CONSIST OF THE CHAIRS OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, CITY, CITY, COUNCIL MEMBER, CITY COUNCIL, MOBILITY COMMITTEE, OR ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, CAT METAL CAP, METRO FINANCE AUDIT, AND ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE, AND THE CAP, METRO OPERATIONS PLANNING AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO THAT WILL BE THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, I THINK.
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YEAH.I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT HERE BECAUSE, UM, YEAH, IT'S COMPLICATED.
DOES EVERYONE HAVE A COPY OF THE DRAFT AND OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT IN FRONT OF THEM? CAUSE IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND IT'S, IT COULD JUST BE EASIER TO READ IT QUIETLY TO YOURSELF.
CAUSE THERE'S LIKE A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS ABOUT NOMINATION AND INITIAL MEMBERS, UM, ARE TALKED ABOUT ON PAGE FIVE OF THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT TOO.
I THINK THE INITIAL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED DIFFERENTLY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE NAMED IN THE ILA.
IS THAT RIGHT KELLY? OH, GOSH.
I JUST SAW THAT THERE'S LIKE MULTIPLE PROVISIONS THAT SYDNEY METRO DENVER UP THERE.
I'M I'M TRYING TO FIND IT RIGHT NOW.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, THIS IS VERY FAST MOVING.
UM, AND I HAVE NOT READ YET THE DRAFTED A LOCAL AGREEMENT, BUT YOU GAVE A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY OF HOW SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I'M GETTING SOME BAD FEEDBACK AND BAD FEET.
UM, ALONG THOSE LINES, JUST BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY WILL FROM THIS BODY TO POTENTIALLY INCLUDE SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WORK FOR KENT METRO AND THAT NOMINATING BOARD OR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ON THAT, ON THAT NOMINATING BOARD, MAYBE SOMEONE FROM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE, TO THE NOMINATING PROCESS TO GET A LITTLE MORE DIVERSE PERSPECTIVE ON WHO SHOULD SERVE ON, ON THIS BOARD? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE IN MIND? YEAH, I KNEW THAT QUESTION WAS GOING TO COME IN THAT COME INTO PLAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, POTENTIALLY, UH, MAN, YOU GOT ME, YOU STUMPED ME ON THAT ONE.
UM, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SUGGEST SOMEONE FROM THE COMMUNITY OR POTENTIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT HAVE A, UH, A MAKE-UP OF THE CHAIRS OF PUMA, AUSTIN, JUSTICE, COALITION AND POC, SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER, THESE MEMOS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRS OF THOSE THREE ORGANIZATIONS POTENTIALLY I'LL BE ON THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE HARD TO NEVER NARROW THAT DOWN JUST TO ONE, ONE PERSON.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO GET IDEAS.
IT GETS HARD TO KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE THOSE ARE NGOS AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW, I'M TOTALLY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT IDEA, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT WITH THOSE TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ORGANIZATIONS CHANGE OR SHIFT OVER THE YEARS AND THIS IS A POTENTIAL 30 YEAR, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ACTIVITY WITH PROJECT CONNECT.
SO I, I DUNNO, I I'D HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT A BIT.
UM, BUT I, I AGREE WITH THE IMPULSE INPUT ON THE NOMINATIONS, AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS, AS WELL AS ACTUAL MEMBERS THEMSELVES.
W YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU'RE RIGHT.
THIS IS WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT ANOTHER TIME AND DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AND MAYBE AT A SEPARATE MEETING, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO AMEND THIS.
OR I HAVE ACTUALLY ANOTHER QUESTION KIND OF RELATED, BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, ADVISORY COMMISSION.
WAS THERE, UH, MAYBE A MISSING PARTY THAT WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ACTUAL TRANSIT OPERATORS.
UM, THEY HAVE A UNION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE, UM, IMPORTANT, UH, INPUT AND HOW THIS ACTUALLY PLAYED OUT.
I TRIED TO POINT THAT IN MY DRAFT, A RESOLUTION BY SAYING, UM, LABOR AND WORKER RIGHTS, BUT WE COULD ADD A LITTLE MORE, UH, SPECIFICITY
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SPECIFICITY TO THAT LANGUAGE IF IT'S HELPFUL, BECAUSE I AGREE THAT, UM, I THINK FINDING TWO COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT COLLECTIVELY HAD ALL THE EXPERIENCE THAT I LISTED IN MY NOTES, THAT BULLET POINT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE GOOD TYPES OF EXPERIENCE FOR THE PEOPLE TO HAVE.SO, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY BE OPEN TO REFINING THAT LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT THERE.
UM, IN GOING BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE IN THE 10 YEARS, UH, ON THAT DESCRIPTION, I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING NO LESS THAN FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF THE, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
UM, I WOULD, AND I'M ASKING, I'M SAYING THAT IF YOU GO TO THE DESCRIPTION AND THE WHOEVER'S CONTROLLING THE MONITOR RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING WORLD, I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE UNDER 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE THAT CAN MANAGE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN MANAGING, MANAGING A PROJECT THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT THAT'S HAPPENED EXPERIENCE.
SO THERE'S NOT MANY PEOPLE IN THE ENGINEERING WORLD THAT WOULD HANDLE SOMETHING THAT BIG, UH, BECAUSE TYPICALLY IT TAKES ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE YEARS TO GET YOUR PE LICENSE.
UM, SO MAYBE FIVE WILL BE THE MINIMUM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I CANNOT ENVISION ANYONE MANAGING THAT TYPE OF BIG PROJECT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THOSE ARE VERY, VERY BIG PROJECTS.
AND IF THE CRITERIA IS TO BE EXPERIENCED IN MULTIPLE PROJECTS OVER A HUNDRED MILLION, THEN IT TAKES A LOT OF, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND EVENING TO GET TO THAT NUMBER.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S IT DOES.
UM, FOR SURE, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON I WONDERED WITH THAT LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE REQUIRED, HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE CONFLICTED OUT.
A LOT, A LOT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT MAJOR, LIKE PROJECT CONNECTS ARE NOT A LOT.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT THAT MANY OUT THERE, MAYBE MOBILITY 35 TOP OF HANDLING AND MANAGING THE BEING THE EXPERIENCE OF, OF, UH, RUNNING THE SHOW FOR 35 MIGHT BE ONE OF THEM OR EVEN ANY OTHER BIG PROJECTS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
I MEAN, IT'S A VERY, IT TAKES MANY YEARS TO GET THAT TYPE OF, UH, EXPERIENCE TO GET TO THAT LEVEL.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY TO ALEX, WITH COMMUNITY EXPERTS WHO HAVE MO YOU KNOW, $250 MILLION PROJECT OR A HUNDRED MULTIPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
THOSE ARE ALMOST ALL GOING TO BE HIGHWAY PROJECTS UNTIL WE MIGHT BE SELF-SELECTING AGAINST THE BEST INTEREST OF THE, UH, THE BOARD HERE.
SO I MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER MORE SIGNIFICANT, UH, RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THAT LINE.
YOU WERE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGETS OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, I JUST, IF WE'RE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO RESIDE WITHIN THIS CITY AND WHO HAVE THIS LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE, THERE JUST, AREN'T A LOT OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA.
AND ALMOST ALL OF THEM, AREN'T GOING TO BE TECHSTOP OR COUNTY MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE PROJECTS.
SO IT MIGHT BE THE POINT EARLIER, WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET QUALIFIED AND INVESTED PEOPLE.
AND EVEN WITH THAT, THEN, UM, YOU'RE TYPICALLY TYPICALLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF THOSE PROJECTS, AREN'T, YOU'RE NOT YOUR FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TYPE OF PERSON THERE.
THEY'RE ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
SO, AND ALSO, I MEAN, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY HARD WITH THIS
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LOCAL AGREEMENT STATING THAT, RIGHT.I MEAN, OUR, OUR DRAFT CAN SAY REMOVAL OF BUDGET EXPERIENCE.
ARE THESE PEOPLE GETTING PAID? NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT.
THIS IS LIKE A SERVING ON UTC OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER WORD.
I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I THINK THE THRESHOLD FOR, I MEAN, FROM A PROTECTION STANDPOINT, I WOULD AGREE THAT THE HIGHER THE THRESHOLD, THE MORE EXPERIENCE YOU'RE GOING TO GET, RIGHT.
AND THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE DOLLAR THRESHOLDS ARE GOING TO GO HAND IN HAND.
BUT, UM, CONSIDERING THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A LARGE, A LOT OF MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS REALM THAT ARE WITHIN TRANSIT IN THE CENTRAL TEXAS AREA, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF WE DID TAKE OUT, REMOVE THE THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT FOR DOLLARS AND JUST LEFT THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO APPLIES TO BE ON THIS BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY START LISTING THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'VE, THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON, NORMALLY YOU LIST, UM, YOU KNOW, GENERAL DOLLAR VALUES, GENERAL AMOUNTS OF PROJECT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL SPEAK FOR ITSELF.
WHY DON'T I, UM, SO I MEAN, THIS IS OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND FORMALLY MOVE THAT WE ADOPT MY DRAFT RESOLUTION AND THEN WE CAN WORK ON, UM, IF WE GO FROM THERE, THEN WE CAN START AMENDING IF THAT DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M NOT THE PROCEDURAL PERSON HERE.
UM, YOU'VE GOT YOUR HANDS UP IN THE AIR.
KELLY AND ALLEN, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON TO CONSIDER THE MOTION AND AMENDED? OKAY.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO CONSIDER IT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT.
WE JUST MOVE AND HAVE A SECOND AND THERE'S DISCUSSION.
SO SUSAN MOVED ALL SECOND IF WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND YET.
SO WE ARE DISCUSSING THE RECOMMENDATION AND ESSENTIALLY MAKING ASSUMPTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS.
SO SINCE IT'S MY, UH, RESOLUTION, UM, SO WE HAVE IT, IT'S ON THE FLOOR NOW WE'VE MOVED.
WE HAVE A SECOND, SO WE CAN DISCUSS TO AMEND.
UM, IT FEELS LIKE MOST OF THE DISCUSSION HERE IS PRETTY FRIENDLY AND HEALTHY.
SO LIKE, UM, IF FOLKS HAVE AMENDMENTS, THEY WANT TO MOVE OR PACKAGES AMENDMENTS, LET'S, LET'S TAKE THOSE UP AND WE CAN START AMENDING THE LANGUAGE, TWEAKING IT HERE AND THERE I, NOTHING ANYBODY HAS SAID IS, UH, AGAINST THE, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF US ARE FEELING PRETTY SIMILAR TYPES OF THINGS AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK WE'VE HAD A REALLY HEALTHY DISCUSSION.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MOVE FOR SOME AMENDMENTS, PLEASE, PLEASE HAVE AT IT.
I'LL I'LL I, IF IT'S COOL, I'LL, I'LL START.
UM, THE FIRST ONE I WANT TO GET OUT OF THE WAY IS, UM, CAN WE CHANGE THE SPELLING OF DEPENDENT? UM, I BELIEVE IT ENT AT THE END.
UM, AND THEN SECOND, I WOULD WANT TO MATCH THE, UM, THE WORDING THAT USES, UM, FOR THE EXPERIENCE PART.
UM, AND SAY, INSTEAD OF SAYING NO MORE THAN I THINK WE SHOULD MIRROR AND SAYING AT LEAST SO, UM, IT'S CONSISTENT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR ON WHAT WE MEAN.
WELL, I WOULD SAY WE ALONG THOSE LINES, I THINK WE DROPPED THAT THRESHOLD AND SAY MORE OR LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
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IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE NO MORE THAN THAT.YOU KNOW, THAT THAT FIVE TO 10 YEAR RANGE IS, I THINK IS PRETTY GOOD.
YOU'RE NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO HAVE 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUT WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO SOMEONE EXPERIENCED THEM.
I THINK NO LESS THAN SEVEN WOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD, A PRETTY GOOD, UM, UM, COMPROMISE.
I WOULD STILL APPROACH FOR THE, UM, AT LEAST, UH, WORDING TO ME, THE WORDING OF, UM, NO MORE THAN SOUNDS A VERY, UM, LIKE SETTING A BAR HIGH RATHER THAN MAKING IT MORE INCLUSIVE, WHICH I THINK IS OUR INTENT.
NO, I WOULD JUST SAY NO LESS THAN AT LEAST, OR NO LESS THAN SAME THING TO ME.
I THINK WE SHOULD STILL HAVE CHOIR.
THAT'S REQUIRED AT LEAST FIVE.
AND IF I CAN, I CAN JUST ASK A QUESTION AND A DISCUSSION QUESTION AS FAR AS THE $300 MILLION FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS.
UM, HOW DO WE, SO IS THIS GROUP ALSO GOING TO BE, UH, THIS AUSTIN PARTNER TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP? WILL THEY ALSO BE OVERSEEING THE USE OF THE CENTER OF THAT $300 MILLION? OR IS THAT A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION MAYBE THAT'S FOR MAY PUT HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR SOMEONE WILL? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHICH MAY BE IMPERFECT IS THAT THEY WILL BE OVER THAT, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY NOTICED ANOTHER TYPO ON MY LAST BULLET POINT THERE, I DON'T HAVE ADVICE.
IT SAYS ADVISOR COMMITTEE INSTEAD OF ADVISORY.
UM, AND TH THAT GROUP IN PARTICULAR WILL BE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO EQUITY ISSUES AND TO BE, UH, ANTI-DISPLACEMENT HOUSING FUND, WHICH IS WHY, PART OF WHY I SAID REQUIRE THE BOARD VOTE ON RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
IS THAT BUT, SO, SO YES, I THINK THAT IT STILL WILL GO BACK TO THE BOARD, BUT THEY'LL HAVE THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WARMED UP.
UM, AND IF THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS ITSELF OUT, I THINK THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE SUFFICIENT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND THOSE THAT LIVE ALONG, ALONG THE PROJECT, UM, THE GOT THING, UM, JUST IN GENERAL WITH THIS WITH ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS IS JUST THE OUTREACH THAT IS BEING HAD, UH, THAT IS BEING DONE.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF A WHOLE LOT OF OUTREACH BEING DONE.
UM, I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE.
I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO GET METRO, RIGHT.
LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING WE ALL BELIEVE IN PROJECT CONNECT.
IT SOUNDS LIKE, OR FOR THE MOST PART WHILE I'M PRETTY MINT, UM, AND WE WANT THIS TO BE A SUCCESS.
AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, CAP METRO DO A LOT MORE OUTREACH IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING AFFECTED AND DISPLACED AND NEGATIVE IMPACT BY PROJECT CONNECT AND REALLY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT IS FOR, YOU KNOW, WEST AUSTIN TO ALIGN WITH SOME CONCERNS IN EAST AUSTIN AND THEN THE PROJECT DOESN'T MOVE FORWARD.
SO I THINK IF, IF WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT SOME LANGUAGE AROUND THAT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR VIEW OF THE IMPORTANCE OF OUTREACH IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING AFFECTED NEGATIVELY IMPACTED, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
SUSAN, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? MAYBE WE COULD, WE COULD ADD, MAYBE WE CAN ADD A LAST BULLET THERE TOO.
THE FIRST URBAN EDUCATION COMMISSION URGES, AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TO, UM, ENSURE THEN IT'S THAT METRO, YOU KNOW, PERFORMS, UM, WHAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR OUTREACH EFFORTS IN BETWEEN IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
ARE YOU SAYING THE THIRD IT RESOLVED OR, UH, YES.
UNDER, UNDER YOUR FIRST, THE FIRST, I GUESS THAT IS THAT THE THIRD BIT RESOLVED? I CAN'T SCROLL DOWN.
UM, LET ME SEE WHERE YOUR, NO, IT'S IN THE FIRST BIT RESOLVED, THERE'S THREE BULLET POINTS, MAYBE ADD A FOURTH, UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST URGING THEM TO PERFORM BETTER AND MORE OUTREACH IN THESE, IN THESE COMMUNITIES POTENTIALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
SO WHEN YOU SAY BETTER OR ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT REFERS TO A STANDARD, IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT'S THE STANDARD, CORRECT.
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DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT TO EXCEED.I MEAN, THERE IS A STANDARD UNDERNEATH, UH, FOR, UH, DOING A PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS ON THE, UM, LIKE FEDERAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
THERE IS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DOING THIS DURING THE NEPA PROCESS, WE'RE WAY TOO LATE TO THE GAME, RIGHT? LIKE WE KNOW WHERE THESE, WHERE THESE RAIL RAIL LINES ARE GOING AND WE NEED TO START DOING OUTREACH RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO START PROTECTING THESE COMMUNITIES NOW.
UM, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY I'M SURE THAT SPECULATIVE LAND DEVELOPMENT OR SPECULATIVE LAND PURCHASES AROUND THESE, AROUND THESE LINES ARE GOING TO END UP DISPLACING MORE PEOPLE.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE START DOING THIS APPLEBEE'S OUTREACH EFFORTS NOW AND REALLY JUST IN THE COMMUNITY NOW I AGREE.
IT'S JUST LIKE WITHOUT REFERENCING A STANDARD IT'S SO AMORPHOUS, IS THERE MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WHEN CAT METRO DID DO A GOOD JOB WITH COMMUNITY OUTREACH, I WILL SAY HERE, AND I'M GOING TO DEFEND CAMP METRO A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH THIS PROCESS AND A LOT BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER PROCESSES THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
THEY'VE BEEN TAKING OUT THERE.
I MEAN, AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SOMEWHAT WAYLAID BY COVID RIGHT.
AS MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN, BUT THEY HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT BUS AND THEY'D BEEN GOING INTO IMPACTED COMMUNITIES.
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GO INTO COMMUNITY FESTIVALS AND IMPACTED COMMUNITIES.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN MAKING A LOT OF STRIDES, I THINK, IN THEIR OUTREACH, UM, FOR PROJECT CONNECT.
I DIDN'T A BULLET POINT THERE, BUT I DO THINK THEY'VE BEEN MAKING UNPRECEDENTED EFFORTS AROUND THIS PROCESS.
COULD IT BE BETTER? OF COURSE IT COULD ALWAYS BE BETTER, BUT, UM, I REALLY THINK THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO DO THIS, AND I THINK THEY HAD BEEN TRYING REALLY HARD WITH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE DO GET A LOT OF UPDATES ON THE P CAN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'VE, WHERE THEY ARE WITH THIS, UM, AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, AND SO I THINK THEY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD OUTREACH TEAM.
UM, SO I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO A BULLET POINT.
I JUST THINK THE WORDING GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE EXACT WORDING, BUT YEAH.
I'M LOOKING AT THE PUMA MEMOS RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UM, ANY WORDING AROUND THAT.
THAT IS SOMETHING TOO THAT I THINK WE COULD, UM, FOCUS ON.
AND IN A LATER RESOLUTION, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT MEASURES UNLESS THIS PASSES IN NOVEMBER ANYWAY.
SO IT SOMETHING WE DON'T, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER, BUT I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE IN TODAY'S RESOLUTION NECESSARILY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK THE DECISION.
AND I THINK, WELL, I THINK IT WAS A REALLY EASY STATEMENT WE CAN PUT IN THERE FROM ONE OF, ONE OF THE PUMA MEMOS.
IT SAYS THERE MUST BE BROAD COMMUNITY INPUT ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDING OF THE PATIENT DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
SO WE JUST SAY ENSURE BROAD COMMUNITY INPUT ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDING, ALLOCATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIES.
WOULD YOU BE FINE WITH THAT? I WOULD, YEAH.
I'M NOT AGAINST ANY OF THIS LANGUAGE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HELP FACILITATE, SO SUSAN, CAN I SUGGEST THE FRONT OF THE AMENDMENTS? UM, WE ADD A BULLET POINT THAT SAYS ENSURE BROAD COMMUNITY INPUT ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDING ALLOCATION, UM, DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES, OR END DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES.
I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT THAT AS A FOURTH BULLET POINT ON THAT FIRST IT RESOLVED.
I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WILL REMEMBER WHEN MISS EACH AMENDMENT SHOULD BE VOTED ON KIND OF THING THAT THEY END WITH AS AMENDED.
SO WHY DON'T YOU MOVE THAT SAMUEL AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
WE ADD A FOURTH BULLET POINT TO, UM, THIS DOCUMENT THAT SAYS ENSURE THERE IS BROAD COMMUNITY INPUT ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDING, ALLOCATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIES, FUN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT AND FUNDING ALLOCATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIES.
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UM, THAT, I GUESS I'M NOW SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES NEEDS SOMETHING THERE.I WOULD SAY DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIES, UM, TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS, UM, OF THIS PROJECT ON, ON, UM, ON EXISTING COMMUNITIES.
SO NOW DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? BEAUTIFUL.
DID WE GET A FULL MOTION AND A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, WE'LL DO HANDS AGAIN FOR APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ONLY EVERYBODY WHO APPROVES HANDS UP, ALEX KELLY.
YOU GOT THE YELLOW TRIANGLE OF DEATH.
SO THAT AMENDMENT PASSES EIGHT ZERO NOW TO CONSIDER FURTHER AMENDMENTS.
I HAVE ONE I'M FEELING READY TO MOVE ON.
UM, OR THE, UH, I, I, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT, THE BOARD IS NOT ELIMINATED TO ANY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
CAUSE I WANTED TO, UM, RECOMMEND THAT WE, UM, HAD AN AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, TRANSIT UNION OR A, UM, ACTIVE, UH, TRANSIT OPERATORS.
JUST TO MAKE THAT EXPLICIT AS AN INDIVIDUAL, UM, POSITION.
I'M TRYING TO TRACK YOUR QUESTION THERE.
YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS NOT LIMITED.
I KIND OF COMBINED THE SIZE REQUESTS.
SO THE BOARD IS NOT LIMITED TO A CERTAIN NUMBER.
THAT'S THAT, IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? SO THIS IS W WHAT THIS REALLY IS, IS IT IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT CONTRACT BETWEEN CAP METRO AND THE CITY? AND SO IT'LL BE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE LIMITED BY WHAT THE BA, BUT THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT SAYS, SO RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'S SET AT FIVE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE SUGGESTING, I'M SUGGESTING WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IN, IN THIS ORIGINAL RESOLUTION WAS EXPANDED TO SEVEN WITH TWO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT BE PROPOSING ANOTHER POSITION.
I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD TWO, TWO MEMBERS, MAYBE ONE TO JUST MAKE IT EIGHT AND SAY ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE A, UM, LABOR REPRESENTATIVE.
I, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
UM, THE, I THINK THE ONLY THING IS YOU GENERALLY WANT ODD NUMBERED BOARDS SO THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NEVER A TIE A STANDOFF.
ONE MORE MEMBER, IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT ONE MEMBER.
BE WRONG HERE, BUT I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY THE APPROACH.
UM, WELL, WELL, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT BECAUSE, I MEAN, AT ANY GIVEN MEETING, SOMEONE MIGHT NOT SHOW UP.
AND SO THERE'S AN EVEN NUMBER JUST BECAUSE THERE'S AN ODD NUMBER ALLOWED DOESN'T MEAN THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN ODD NUMBER AT A MEETING.
SO WHEN A VOTE IS LIKE FOUR, FOUR, THEN A MOTION DOESN'T PASS.
WELL, UM, THE SECRETARY, UH, YES, THAT'S, UH, JUST, JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
SO WE'RE NOT ADDING IN A NINTH PERSON THAT JUST PURELY FOR THE SAKE OF COUNTING.
UH, WELL THEN, YEAH, I'LL JUST STICK WITH MY ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, UM, JUST TO MAKE OFFICIAL MOVE, TO AMEND, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL MEMBER, UM, THAT IS EXPLICITLY A VERSUS THE MOVE OF THE TRANSIT OPERATORS EITHER THROUGH THE LABOR UNION OR OTHER, UM, SUCH REPRESENTATION.
SO YOU MENTIONED THE TRANSIT UNION.
I WAS THINKING WHEN YOU FIRST BROUGHT THAT UP IS LIKE
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A CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE TRANSIT OPERATOR UNION AND I WAS LOOKING IT UP WHILE WE WERE DISCUSSING A MINUTE AGO.
UH THERE'S UM, THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION, WHICH IT REPRESENTS, UM, I THINK 800 OF THE, UH, CAP METRO WORKERS.
BUT SEEING AS HOW THIS BOARD IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING CONTRACTS AND CHANGE ORDERS, UM, WOULD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION, LABOR FORCE BE SOMETHING.
I MEAN, I CERTAINLY, WHEN I WAS MAKING THE, WHAT I MADE THAT ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, I TRIED TO KEEP IT WHEN I SAID EXPERIENCE WITH LABOR AND WORKER RIGHTS.
I WAS KIND OF THINKING IN THOSE LINES, THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT AS WELL.
AND I'LL JUST, WAS KIND OF KEEPING IT AS IN THOSE LISTS OF QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, THAT'S, THOSE ARE GOOD CRITIQUES.
UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I THINK THAT, UH, THE OPERATOR SHOULD HAVE A VOICE IN WHAT ACTUALLY GETS BUILT AND HOW IT, WHAT THE PROCESS IS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR THE DESIGN, NOT NECESSARILY OPERATIONS, SO I CAN SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY CRUCIAL THAT THEY ARE, UM, REPRESENTED THERE.
I ALSO, UM, I THINK EMILY JUST CONFIRMED THAT IT CANNOT BE AN EVEN NUMBER.
UM, SO I I'D ACTUALLY BE OPEN TO, UM, WITHDRAWING THE AMENDMENT WITH THOSE THINGS IN MIND.
UM, BUT ANY, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER WAYS TO MAYBE STRENGTHEN THAT, UH, POINT OF VIEW, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
UM, DANIEL INSTAGRAM, UM, AND I WOULD SAY THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT SUSAN HAS PROPOSED RIGHT HERE, AS FAR AS EXPERIENCE WITH LABOR AND WORKER RIGHTS, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES, WELL, IT DOES ENCOMPASS BOTH CONSTRUCTION AND OPS AND OPERATIONS.
UM, BUT IF WE, I THINK IF WE WANTED TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, YOU KNOW, AT SOME OTHER POINT IN TIME, PERHAPS WE COULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, BE IN CONTACT WITH, OR, YOU KNOW, WORK HAND IN HAND WITH, UM, THE OPERATOR'S UNION, BECAUSE IF THEY WERE GOING TO THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD HAS TO, HAS TO VOTE ON IT.
AND, UM, I GUESS JUST TO GIVE YOU MY THINKING HERE, OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT WORKERS' RIGHTS.
I WANT THEM TO HAVE AS MUCH, UM, SURFACE STUFF AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO JUST IN TERMS OF PRACTICALITY WISE, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, TRANSIT OPERATORS HAVE BEEN OPPOSED TO CERTAIN EXPANSIONS OF THEIR PURVIEW JUST BECAUSE, UM, THAT THEY ARE, OR MAYBE A, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN AUSTIN HAD FREE TRANSIT BACK IN THE NINETIES, THEY, THEY ESSENTIALLY TANKED IT BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERNS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE THEM ON BOARD WITH JUST, UM, DECISION-MAKING, UM, TO AVOID ANY CONFLICTS DOWN THE LINE.
JUST ONE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM AND SORRY TO GO BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL POINT THAT WE, THAT WE CHANGE WHERE WE REQUIRE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, UM, THAT WORKS FOR OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT REQUIRING SOME, SOME CRAZY AMOUNT, BUT IT ALSO DOESN'T LIMIT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN REQUIRE.
SO THEY STILL COULD SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO SAY 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
IT'S FIVE, IT'S MORE THAN FIVE, YOU KNOW? SO DO WE WANT TO HONE IN ON A MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE AS WELL? IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD SAY REQUIRE AT LEAST FIVE, BUT NO MORE THAN 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, OR IS THAT JUST TOO MUCH HOUSEKEEPING? I THINK WE'RE, I MEAN, THAT WAS SORT OF WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO ORIGINALLY.
I THINK THE WORDING IS TRICKY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO BLOCK SOMEBODY THAT HAS 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, RIGHT.
THAT WAS A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR THIS POSITION, BUT ALSO IT'S ABOUT REQUIRING TOO MUCH EXPERIENCE.
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THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING A NAZI A LITTLE BIT WITH THE WORDING.I ALSO REALIZED, I DON'T THINK WE FORMALLY AMENDED THAT.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS ALLIE AMENDMENT.
SO WE MAY WANT TO FORMALLY MOVE THAT TO AMEND THE MOTION, BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I I'M, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.
UM, TH THERE'S A RANGE THAT WE WANT, I'M GOING TO MAKE TWO POINTS BRIEFLY.
I AGREE THAT I THINK THE WAY THAT IT'S PHRASED NOW ON THE SCREEN KIND OF LOWERS THE BAR WITHOUT BLOCKING ANYBODY ELSE.
UM, SO I'LL LEAVE IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE'VE GOT 32 MINUTES LEFT AND ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM AND RECOMMENDATION TO CONSIDER.
SO, UM, IF WE COULD MAYBE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TARGETED WITH OUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THIS AND THEN CONSIDER IT FOR, UH, APPROVAL.
I THINK, UM, WE STILL HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER THE SECOND ITEM.
YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD THE SECOND ITEM.
PROBABLY WON'T TAKE AS MUCH TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS DETAILED, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY WANT TO GET SOME WORDS IN THERE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE CHANGES TO THE LANGUAGE OR CHANGES TO CONSIDER? UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF TYPOS THERE'S, UM, ON THE FIRST PAGE, A LITTLE MORE THAN HALFWAY DOWN.
THERE'S TWO, WHEREAS IS IN A ROW JUST WHEREAS IS REPEATED.
AND, UM, THIS SECOND TO LAST, WHEREAS ON THE FIRST PAGE WHERE IT SAYS, WHICH WILL PROVIDED SUSTAINED FUNDING, IT SHOULD BE PROVIDE.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER TRANSIT DEPEN DANCE THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO DEPENDENT ON THAT SAME NOTE.
WE USE, UM, A DASH AND ONE AND NO DASH AND THE OTHER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD HAVE A PREFERRED WAY OF DOING IT.
UM, PROBABLY NO DASH, SORRY THAT BROUGHT THE GRAMMAR NERD IN ME.
SO I THINK WE NEED, IT NEED TO, AT LEAST WE DIDN'T FORMALLY DO THE AMENDMENT FOR THE FIRST BULLET POINT ABOUT TIME.
UM, SO I THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST DO THAT OR THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, SO I'LL MOVE TO CHANGE THE WORDING AND THE FIRST BULLET POINT OF THE SECOND VIEW FOR THE RESOLVED, UM, TO READ REQUIRE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, SO THAT MOTION TO AMEND IS ON THE FLOOR AND IS UP SIX HANDS KELLY AND ALEX.
KELLY, DID YOU HAVE OTHER CHANGES FOR CONSIDERATION? NO, THANKS.
I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS WORTH MAYBE ALSO ADDING SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, UM, FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
UM, IF I DON'T, I KNOW WE TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER.
MAYBE WE CAN COMBINE THAT WITH THE CAPITAL METRO ACCESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SUSAN, I THINK THAT YOU HAD SAID THAT THAT WAS YOUR INTENT AND INCLUDING THAT MAYBE WE SAY LIKE, OR OTHER ONES LIVED EXPERIENCE, UM, WITH DISABILITY.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.
THAT WAS GOING TO BE, MY ONLY SUGGESTED ADDITION WAS TO SOMEHOW MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT, THAT, UH, PEOPLE WITH THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
SORT OF COMING TO MY MIND WAS ON THE FIRST PHRASE, WHICH IT SAYS, OR MAY 2ND, EXCUSE ME, WHERE IT SAYS
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INTERACTS WITH AND UNDERSTANDS THE NEED OF TRANSIT DEPENDENT INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, INCLUDING THOSE, UH, EXPERIENCING DISABILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.UM, BECAUSE I THINK IN MY MIND I WAS THINKING THAT THIS SORT OF, OF A PIECE, BUT, UM, OR IT COULD BE A SEPARATE POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT AFTER THAT, UM, ANYWAY, EITHER ONE OF THOSE STUDENTS APT, SOMEONE WANTS TO MOVE THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.
SO I'LL MOVE TO AMEND BULLET THREE IN THE SECOND VIET RESOLVED.
I THINK I'M, I KNOW I MISSED WHAT EXACTLY THE AMENDMENT.
AND THE THIRD, THIRD BULLET UNDER ENSURE THE TRANS OFTEN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP, A THIRD LINE INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES, AND THEN RIGHT AFTER JUST IN PARENTHESES, UH, INCLUDING THOSE EXPERIENCING DISABILITIES.
SO THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, UH, HANDS UP FOR YOUR NE SIX KELLY AND ALEX K EIGHT.
SO THAT'S APPROVED ANY MORE SUGGESTIONS TO AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION? UM, THIS IS KELLY.
I JUST WANT TO SAY ON PROCESS AND SORRY, THERE'S ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULES AND EXCEPTIONS TO THE EXCEPTIONS, BUT FOR THE CHANGES, IF, IF, UM, IF NOBODY OPPOSES THE CHANGES, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE MOTION SECOND VOTE.
UM, DAN, YOU CAN JUST SAY LIKE, CAN WE APPROVE THIS BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT? AND IF NOBODY OBJECTS, THEN, UH, THEN WE CAN JUST DO IT THAT WAY A LITTLE QUICKER.
FIGHTING MY URGE TO BECOME A DICTATOR.
ANY MORE SUGGESTIONS, OR CAN WE CALL THIS TWO QUESTION AND I MIGHT, I MIGHT MAKE YOU MAD KELLY OR I FORGOT WHAT WE DID EARLIER, BUT DO WE NEED TO MOVE THIS REVISED OR IS THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION ALREADY? UM, YEAH, NO, W WE ALREADY MOVED, SO WE JUST VOTE NOW.
SO THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION IS AS YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN AND WE'LL DO A VOTE NOW FOR THE ENTIRE RECOMMENDATION, ALL IN FAVOR SIX HANDS ON THE SCREEN, KELLY AND ALEX.
THAT'S EIGHT ZERO, NO ABSTENTIONS.
SO THAT TAKES US TO NEW BUSINESS, UH, TO B, UM, WHICH, UH, DRAFT RECOMMENDATION SHOWED UP EARLIER FROM COMMISSIONER ALVARADO.
UH, DANIEL, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THAT TO EVERYBODY? YES.
UM, SO, UM, MARIO AND I ARE CO-SPONSORING THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TODAY.
UM, SO, UH, THIS IS A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL BOND ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT FOR ESSENTIALLY, UH, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AND YOU'VE GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THIS, UH, UNDER THE SAFE MOBILITY BOND, UH, PETITION AND, UM, KIND OF, I GUESS YOU'D SAY MOVEMENT GOING AROUND.
UM, IT'S, UM, BEING SPEARHEADED BY THE AUSTIN OUTSIDE COALITION, WHICH REPRESENTS A LOT OF, UM, UH, OUTDOOR RELATED AND,
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UH, AND TRANSPORTATION RELATED, UM, NON-PROFITS AND, UH, PLANNING FIRMS AND, UH, AND THE, LIKE, UM, WHO ALL ARE IN SUPPORT OF, UM, BASICALLY ENSURING THAT WE CONTINUE FUNDING OUR, UH, SIDEWALK BICYCLE AND, UM, OTHER ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION RELATED BOND OR, UM, PROGRAMS AND PLANS.UM, SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THE, UH, PROJECT CONNECTS, UM, TAX ROLLBACK ELECTION WOULD INCLUDE SOME FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, BASICALLY IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE PLANS, UM, ROLL OUT AND, UH, BE CONTINUED, THE MOMENTUM THAT THEY'VE HAD THUS FAR, WE WERE GOING TO BE MORE FUNDING.
AND SINCE THE CITY HAS NOT ALLOCATED FUNDING IN THEIR BUDGET, UH, WE'RE FORCED TO DO MORE BONDS.
SO, UM, THAT'S SORT OF THE, UM, THE BOND IS CALLING FOR, AND YOU GUYS CAN DO THE WAREHOUSES.
UM, THE, THEY ARE BASICALLY POINTING OUT THE, UM, FUNDING SHORTFALLS FOR THE VARIOUS, UM, CITY PLANS FOR BICYCLE MASTER PLAN SIDEWALK PLAN, UM, AS WELL AS THE, UM, VISION ZERO AND SAY FOR OUTS TO SCHOOL, UM, PROGRAMS WHICH WERE FUNDED UNDER THE 2016 MOBILITY BOND, UM, THAT, THAT FUNDING WILL PROBABLY RUN OUT IN 2022, IF WE DID NOT FIND ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING.
UM, SO, UM, YEAH, THIS RECOMMENDATION IS TO ASK FOR, UM, ESSENTIALLY THE $700 MILLION OR BOND, UH, WHICH IS, UM, THE AMOUNT ON THE PETITION, UM, FROM AUSTIN OUTSIDE.
AND, UM, THIS, UM, THAT AMOUNT WOULD COVER THE, UM, THE REMAINDER OF THE HIGH AND VERY HIGH LEVEL PRIORITY AREAS FOR THE VARIOUS PLANS THAT I WAS MENTIONING ABOUT.
UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD IN THE, WHEREAS IS, UM, Y I THINK ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION BOND IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT NOW AFTER COVID, AS WELL AS F GORE AFTER THE, UM, VARIOUS, UM, BLACK LIVES MATTER AND OTHER SOCIAL, UM, PROTESTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
UM, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN HOW COVID HAS, UM, UH, LED TO A BIG UPTICK IN BICYCLING AND THEN EXTREMISM AS WELL AS, UM, SOME, UH, AND A BIG DOWNTURN IN TRANSIT RIDERSHIP.
NOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE TRANSIT RIDERSHIP THING IS A LONGTERM, BUT, UM, I THINK IT DOES, UM, IF YEAH, THE BEST REASON TO, UM, EVEN MORE REASON TO FOCUS ON ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION IN THE MEANTIME.
UM, SO THE, UH, THE COULD, UM, FULLY FUND THINGS LIKE THE HEALTHY STREETS PROGRAM, UM, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS NOT FUNDED, UH, WHICH IS IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
UM, ALSO I INCLUDED SOMEWHERE AS IS TO ADDRESS, UM, SYSTEMIC INEQUALITY IN THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, UM, TO, UH, DIRECTLY PLEA, UM, ADDRESS THE DEMANDS OF PROTESTS AND, UM, AND VARIOUS, UM, PEOPLE POINTING OUT THE, UH, LONG HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND ALSO BEING USED TO, UM, SEGREGATE, UH, OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS ARE, UM, FAMILIAR AT LEAST WITH THE, UM, WITH THE PETITION.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE.
UM, OH, AND THEN THERE'S ONE LAST CAVEAT AT THE BOTTOM, UH, FURTHER BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT, UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF, UM, THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT, UM, INCLUDE A SAFETY MOBILITY BOND ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT, THAT THE, UM, MAIN PROJECT CONNECT BOND, UM, SIGNIFICANT FUNDING YEAR MARK FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, UM, AND SUZANNE, AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT, UH, I'VE HEARD VARIOUS DIFFERENT, UH, INDICATIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH, IF ANY OF THE PROJECT CONNECT MONEY WOULD BE ABLE BE USED FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION.
I'VE HEARD, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO, YOU KNOW, A HALF MILE RADIUS AROUND TRANSIT AREAS, WHICH REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE ACTUAL SYSTEM IN A, IN A PROFOUND WAY.
SO, UM, I THINK THE, IF, UH, IF THE PROJECT CONNECT IS GOING TO SUCCEED IS GOING TO NEED, UM, A VERY HIGH QUALITY BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN NETWORK TO, UM, GET PEOPLE TO TRANSIT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, HAVE BOTH BONDS AND SUPPORT BOTH BONDS AS KIND OF A DUAL PACKAGE RATHER THAN JUST THE ONE.
UM, BUT YEAH, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND, UM,
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I KNOW IT I'VE HEARD SOME, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF THE WORRIES ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL BOND IS BECAUSE OF THE, UM, ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.PEOPLE MIGHT BE AFRAID TO ADD MORE BONDS TO THE BALLOT.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN, THERE'S REALLY NO EVIDENCE ABOUT THAT.
AND FALLING IS GOOD FOR AFTER TRANSPORTATION RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE REALLY USING IT A LOT MORE THAN THEY EVER HAVE AND PEOPLE NEW PEOPLE ARE USING IT.
UM, SO I THINK IF ANYTHING, THE ACTUAL TRANSPORTATION BOND IS, UM, WOULD BE BETTER, UH, BETTER SUITED IN A POLITICAL SENSE THAN, UM, A TRANSIT BOND.
NOT THAT I WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE TRANSIT BOND AT ALL.
UM, CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE BOTH ESSENTIAL.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, SUGGESTIONS? I THINK WE NEED A SECOND TO CONSIDER I'LL SECOND.
AND HOUR AGO, WE'RE NOW ABLE TO DISCUSS AMENDMENTS OR, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DANIEL ABOUT THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION? SO DAN WILL SORT OF SEMI ADDRESS THE QUESTION TO ME ABOUT THE VEHICLE, THE FINAL VEHICLE, THE RESOLVED.
UM, I DO THINK, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE SETTING UP A TRE WITH A VERY SPECIFIC, UH, CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS AND A VARIOUS SPECIFIC INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN A METRO RAPID LINE OR LIGHT RAIL LINE OR DIFFERENT THINGS, AND YOU'RE CHEERING UP THE ROAD, THEY'RE GOING TO BE REBUILDING THE ROAD OR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND THAT IMMEDIATE LIKE INTERSECTION AND ROAD.
SO THERE WOULD BE SOME, UH, SOME WAYS IN WHICH IT'S FUNDING, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AS, AS YOU REBUILD ROADS TO ACCOMMODATE PROJECT CONNECT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT, UM, TAKING MONEY FROM THAT TRA AND STUDIED IT TO ACCURATE TRANSPORTATION LEGALLY, UM, WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT TWEAKING TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS AND THE ILA IS PROBABLY NOT POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, WE CAN STILL AS UTC RECOMMEND WHATEVER WE WANT TO RECOMMEND, I GUESS, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE CHALLENGING BASED ON WHAT THE UPDATES, CAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE ASKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT AT PEKIN MEETINGS AND BEEN TOLD THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.
WELL THAT HELPS CLARIFY BECAUSE YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE HEARD SOME, UM, HOW MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS SO THAT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK THAT LAST, FURTHER RESOLVED, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, SUGGESTING ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE, UM, UNLAWFUL, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE RIGHT TERM.
UM, SO NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT WOULD BE.
UM, I, I THINK, UM, IT'S MAYBE THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDS ARE THOSE, WHAT ARE THOSE, HOW IS THAT BEING ALLOCATED? IF, IF, UH, IS THAT, UM, RATHER THAN, UM, WHAT, I MEAN, COULD WE NOT ALLOCATE MONEY FOR AMPUTATION JUST AS THEY'RE ALLOCATING MONEY FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT YOU EXPLAINED THAT.
YEAH, THEY, UM, SO ORIGINALLY KENT METRO HAD ASKED FOR 11 CENT GRE AND THEN, UH, THREE WEEKS AGO THEY SORT OF RELEASED THE MODIFIED COVID PANDEMIC PROJECT CONNECT TRE PLAN.
AND THEY TOOK IT DOWN TO 8.50 CENTS.
BUT WHAT COUNCIL DIDN'T RESPONSE WAS, THEY SAID, LET'S TAKE IT TO EIGHT, SEVEN, FIVE.
AND SO THAT EXTRA INCREMENT THERE IS WHAT'S GOING, IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT, THAT'S WHERE THE 300 MILLION IS COMING FROM THAT INCREASED FROM 8.5 TO 0.7 BY 8.75.
UM, SO, UM, SO WE, WE BASICALLY HAVE TO ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL INCREMENT, UM, LIKE IN ORDER TO ADD ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION FUNDS TO THE, UM, YEAH.
OR OTHERWISE YOU'D BE TAKEN AWAY FROM YEAH.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN, THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS.
IT WAS GOING TO BE ONE BIG OMNIBUS BOND, AND NOW IT'S THE TAX ROLL BACK.
SO I, THEY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A POLITICALLY, A GOOD RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE THAT WE WOULD HIKE IT UP FOR ACTUAL ANNOTATION AND THIS, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SAFETY MOBILITY BOND IS NOT PASSED.
UM, I MEAN, MY OTHER IDEA FOR THIS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IS THIS JUST TO RE UM, RECOMMEND THAT THEY ADD, UM, FUNDING IN THE BUDGET TO COVER THE, THE FUNDS NEEDED FOR, UM, SIDEWALK AND BICYCLE MASTER PLANS, UM, ACTIVELY COMING FROM THE VOICE BUDGET, FOR INSTANCE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE
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FOR A DIFFERENT DAY.UM, BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO, YOU WANT TO SUGGEST AN AMENDMENT TO THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO, UM, AND JEN, UM, DANIEL, THIS IS KELLY.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, WHEREAS THAT BEGINS WITH, UM, THE 2016 MOBILITY FUNDS COULD BE COMPLETELY DEPLETED.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN, I GUESS IT'S THE USE OF THE WORD SENSE CONFUSES ME.
OH, UM, THE SENSE THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN DEPLOYED, MAYBE THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY ENDING THE MOMENTUM FAST.
WE BUILT UP A, I GUESS SENSE IS MAYBE A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS, WHY WHILE THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN DEPLOYED OR AS THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN DEPLOYED AND BASICALLY SAYING, UM, UH, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT, UH, AT OUR CURRENT SPENDING RATE AND INFLATION RATE, UM, THOSE FUNDS WILL BE USED UP BY 2022.
AND WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY FUNDS LINED UP TO, UM, CONTINUE THAT DEPLOYMENT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO CONTINUE DEPLOYING, UM, ALL INFRASTRUCTURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, BUT OTHER ISSUE, IF THERE IS JUST CONTINUALLY BETWEEN DEPLOYMENT, UM, THERE MIGHT, UH, THEY MIGHT END UP LAYING OFF STAFF OR SUCH SORT OF THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A HIGH CAPACITY FOR DEPLOYING, UM, NEW SIDEWALKS AND BIKE LANES AND SUCH.
SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THERE SHOULD BE A CON MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT A BREAK IN FUNDING FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME OR ELSE WE MIGHT HAVE A HARDER TIME GETTING IT STARTED BACK UP.
BUT WE CAN RELATE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE A FULL AMENDMENT TO JUST CHANGE ONE WORD TO, FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, EMILY, IF YOU WANT TO JUST CHANGE THAT TENDS TO, UM, BUILD THAT LIST AS, OR WHAT DID I SAY OFFICIALLY ENDING THE WHILE, WHILE THAT FUNDING WHILE IT MAKES SENSE.
WHILE MAKES IT MAKE SENSE TO ME, I HAD ANOTHER, JUST MORE GENERAL POLICY COMMENT.
UM, EMILY HAD SENT US THAT STAFF MEMO DATED JULY 30TH, UM, WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S GOT A VERY NEUTRAL TONE, BUT BASICALLY I GOT THE SENSE THAT LIKE STAFF IS PRETTY PISSED ABOUT THIS, UM, PETITION KIND OF COMING OUT OF NOWHERE AND THEY SAY THIS, THIS IS THE BA WE HAVE A PROCESS AND THIS HASN'T GONE THROUGH ANY OF THE, UM, VETTING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESSES THAT WE DO.
AND, UM, WE ALREADY HAVE ALL THESE, ALL THIS OUT OUTSTANDING MONEY IN BONDS.
UM, I GUESS I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW, HOW PEOPLE FELT TOO.
I HAVE A REALLY STRONG REACTION TO THAT, AND I'M GOING TO TELL HOW I FEEL, SO I AGREE WITH YOU ABSOLUTELY.
THAT, UM, THAT WAS, UM, AN UNDERLYING KIND OF FEELING IN THE MEMO AT THE SAME TIME.
WE, WE HAVE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT, EXTENSIVE POLICY ANALYSIS, THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN, URBAN TRAIL, MASTER PLAN, BIKE MASTER PLAN, UM, BUT EVEN HAVE FUNDING PRIORITIZATION THAT'S BASED ON EQUITY MEASURES AND ALL KINDS OF MEASURES.
SO I MEAN, UNDERGIRDING, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH MONEY, PRESUMABLY MOST OF THE MONEY IS JUST GOING TO BE FED INTO THOSE PLANS WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITIZATION MATRIX, UM, AND THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN IS LIKE THE, ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES OF THIS.
SO IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE, YES, BONDS GO THROUGH INPUT.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, I'LL JUST BE HONEST, LIKE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THAT I'M IN FAVOR.
I, I SAID SO IN MY, MY OTHER, THE OTHER ITEM AGENDA ITEM THAT WE HAD TODAY, THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT, UH, 300 MILLION, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AGO WE WERE TALKING MAYBE 100 OR 200 MILLION AND IT GOT UP TO 300 MILLION AND THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT CAME TOGETHER AND THE COMMUNITY CALLED OUT FOR, AND WE DID, AND THAT COUNCIL AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WANT IT.
SO LIKE, I HEAR YOU, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES WITH BONDS THAT HAVE REALLY STRICT TIMELINES ON THEM, LIKE, AND, UM, I SERVED ON AFTER THE 26 MOBILITY BOND PASSED,
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I SERVED ON A COMMUNITY FOCUS GROUP THAT HELPED CREATE A PRIORITIZATION MATRIX FOR SPENDING THOSE FUNDS.AND, UM, THE, IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE VOTERS, FOR THAT BOND, THERE WAS A VERY SPECIFIC TIMELINE TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS, UH, PRETTY FAST.
LIKE WE HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY FAST.
WE WOULD DO WHAT WE PROMISED OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT CAN BE, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS OF BUREAUCRACY, UH, JUST STUFF ON THE GROUND.
I'M SURE PANDEMIC, IT CAN BE HARD TO SPEND MONEY SOMETIMES HARDER THAN WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK IF OUR COMMUNITY AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND COMMISSIONS, AND, UM, SAY THAT, I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THAT THE PUBLIC PROCESSES OFFICIALS VOTING ON IT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE POLICE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION COMMUNITY, YOU'RE AUSTIN OUTDOOR OR NOT CONVINCING THE CITY OF COUNCIL OFFICIALS, IF THEY'RE MORE CONVINCED BY WHAT STAFF SAYS, I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S FINE, BUT LIKE, I JUST, I'M NOT, I'M NOT VERY CONVINCED THAT THESE ARE OVERRIDING THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S A LITTLE STRANGE TO ME SOMETIMES THAT STAFF, I MEAN, WE CAN TRY TO STAFF THEM UP AND GET THEM MORE MONEY AND GET THEM MORE FUNNY TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE RUNNING THAT ARE BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'M NOT VERY CONVINCED BY THAT MEMO, QUITE FRANKLY, MAYBE OTHERS HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION AND I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT, BUT YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD, I MEAN, YOU NAILED IT, SUSAN.
UM, I, I WOULD JUST ADD ALSO THAT THE, UM, IN THE, WHEREAS IS IT, UH, W I MADE CLEAR THAT THE MONEY HAS TO BE EXPLICITLY TO BE SPENT ON THE HIGH, VERY HIGH PRIORITY, UM, MISSING, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH AGAIN HAS BEEN GONE THROUGH THIS LENGTHY VETTING PROCESS.
UM, SO I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHY A CERTAIN STAFF WOULD BE, UM, MAYBE FEEL ONE-SIDED, UM, WAS, YOU KNOW, A SCRAMBLED TO GET IT TOGETHER.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S FOR GOOD REASON, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD SO LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHERE THE FA, WHERE THIS FUNDING MIGHT COME FROM, AND I'D BE ALSO BEING MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THE STAFF POSITION IF THEY HAD, UM, AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL FOR CONTINUING THE FUNDING FOR THESE PROGRAMS, WHICH EXTENSIVELY, UM, THEY'RE RUNNING.
I, I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR ANY, UM, PROPOSALS THERE, SO, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD PUSH FORWARD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
YOU'LL HAVE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO FINISH DELIBERATING AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS RECOMMENDATION.
I WASN'T LIKE TRYING TO DEFEND THE STAFF MEMO.
I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT PRIOR TO THIS VOTE TO, UM, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE RECORD ABOUT IT, SINCE IT DOES SEEM TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THIS AND, YOU KNOW, BE AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM US THAT, THAT WE TOOK THOSE.
WE, UM, WE READ WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, RIGHT.
AND I, AND I SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BECAUSE I KNOW THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO THE PROJECT CONNECT, AND THAT PART IS THEY DON'T WANT IT TO JEOPARDIZE PROJECT CONNECT BY ADDING MORE TO THE BALLOT.
BUT, UM, I REALLY THINK THEY'RE LIMITING THEIR, THE, UM, HORIZON OF POSSIBLE FUTURES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, WITH, WITH, UM, JUST OPPOSING IT HAS BEEN COMING, UM, THROUGH THEIR NORMAL CHANNELS.
ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS TO CONSIDER? OKAY.
THEN A DRAFT RECOMMENDATION IS AS HAS BEEN BANKED AND WE WILL CALL FOR A VOTE, UH, HANDS UP FOR, UH, KELLY AND ALLY.
I THINK I'M, I MISSED IT IF IT HAPPENED IN INITIAL MOTION AND SECONDING, UM, TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
I MISSED THAT IF THAT TOOK PLACE.
NO, DANIEL THEN I THINK ALLIE'S SECOND.
UH, SO KELLY AND ALEX, I MISSED YOUR VOTES.
EIGHT, NOTHING WITH THREE ABSENT.
WE'VE GOT FOUR MINUTES TO DO COMMITTEE AND STAFF REPORTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, DOWNTOWN COMMISSION IS WHETHER IT BE, I THINK, AND SHE'S ABSENT, UM, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION KELLY, ANYTHING THERE.
I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT TO THE PAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS SINCE THEY CHANGED AT THE TIME.
UM, BICYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL, PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY CONSOLE.
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OKAY.UM, THEY'VE BEEN DISCUSSING A LOT OF THE SAME TOPICS AS, AS THE ALL HEALTHY STREETS, PROJECT CONNECT, UM, ATTEND ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION BOND.
I'M PLANNING TO GET THE MINUTES FROM THEIR MOST RECENT MEETINGS, THE DRAFT MINUTES, UH, HOPEFULLY DISTRIBUTED TODAY OR TOMORROW.
UM, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM THEN.
UM, CITY COUNCIL MOBILITY COMMITTEE.
THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET NEXT ON AUGUST 20TH.
UH, THAT AGENDA IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN, UH, PROJECT CONNECT ADVISORY NETWORK.
I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT TODAY.
WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING OF THAT GROUP ON MONDAY.
SO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY THERE.
UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, ONE ON THERE, WHICH IS THE UPDATE OF THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN.
UM, EMILY, DO YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING ELSE OR COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT? I, UH, I THINK, UH, I'M STILL CATCHING UP AS I WAS OUT LAST WEEK, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I DIDN'T IMAGINE THIS IN THAT LAST WEEK, THE CLERK'S OFFICE LET LIAISONS KNOW THAT WE SHOULD, UM, REVISIT OFFICER ELECTIONS.
USUALLY THOSE OCCUR ANNUALLY IN APRIL, BUT, UH, LAST I HEARD, THEY WERE SORT OF SAYING, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, GIVEN ALL THE ADJUSTING THAT WAS GOING ON TO JUST GET VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND HAPPEN.
BUT NOW THEY'RE ASKING US TO FACILITATE OFFICER ELECTIONS AGAIN, FOR TERMS THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH OCTOBER.
SO JUST BE AWARE THAT'S LIKELY ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE AN ITEM TO ADD? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE IMPORTANT STUFF.
WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING OR I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.