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THIS IS THE ANNUAL ADVISORY[CALL TO ORDER]
COMMISSION MEETING FOR FRIDAY, AUGUST 7TH FOR MEETING FROM THREE TO FOUR 30 BY VIRTUAL MAGIC.FIRST THING I NEED TO DO IS GET ALL THE ROLL CALL OF ALL MEMBERS.
WHEN YOUR REGULAR MEETING WILL SIGNED, WE SIGNED THAT SHEET AND THAT'S AN ATTENDANCE SHEET, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO STAY.
WHETHER WE GO, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, JUST SAY HERE, AND IF YOU FEEL LIKE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANY ITEMS THAT WAY, DAVID MINSTEAD, I'M YOUR CHAIR.
KATIE JARA FLORES, PALMER NIGHT, HOUSE WALMART LIKE YOUR FRIEND HERE, AND I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THE HOSTILE GENDA ITEM.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN, AND YOU CAN JUST LEAVE YOUR MICROPHONE LISTENING NASAR YEAH, SURE, SURE.
CAN I INTERRUPT ONE SECOND? THIS IS JOSEPH AT CITY HALL.
ANYONE WHO IS NOT SPEAKING SPEAKERS OR COMMISSIONER MEMBERS CAN BE PLEASE STAY ON MUTE.
WE ARE GETTING SOME BACKGROUND NOISE, WHICH COULD COMPROMISE THE RECORDING.
SO UNLESS YOU ARE CALLED ON TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE KEEP YOUR PHONE OR YOUR AUDIO ON MUTE.
BRANDY'S IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.
JOANNE NORTON HERE, NANCY NAMER HERE.
SO WITH THAT, THE MEETING IS OFFICIALLY CALLED TO ORDER.
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THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO THE REQUIREMENT IS TO GO TO SPEAKERS.UM, AND THEN A REMINDER TO SPEAKERS ALSO TO STAY ON MUTE UNTIL I CALL YOUR NAME.
IF YOU'VE, UH, GIVEN ANY HANDOUTS, WE HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY OR WE'VE PRINTED THEM OUT, BUT THEY WON'T BE SHOWN ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, WE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO HAVE, OR TEMPORARILY AT LEAST A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IN GENERAL.
THAT'S THE TIME WHEN WE SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TODAY, YOU NEED TO KEEP ALL YOUR COMMENTS, COMMENTS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ON.
SO IF IT'S BUDGET OR A TASK, MAKE SURE YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS OR DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT.
UM, I WAS KIND OF LENIENT ON THAT LAST MONTH, BUT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT THIS TIME.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU GO ASTRAY, I WILL INTERRUPT YOU AND GET YOU BACK ON TRACK.
AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO STAY OFF THE SUBJECT, WE'LL CUT YOU OFF AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
CAN I ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION? UH, SURE.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO KNOW WHO, UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMMUNICATING BECAUSE I'VE SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS WE'VE GOTTEN FOR SOME OF THE BACKUP WE'VE GOTTEN.
I KNOW HER FROM PEOPLE WHO NO LONGER LIVE IN AUSTIN, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW IF THE SPEAKERS, WHERE THE SPEAKERS LIVE AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONSTITUENTS.
SPEAKERS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO A STATE COUNCIL DISTRICT OR WHERE YOU LIVE, PLEASE DO.
UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO GO BY SPEAKER ORDER, NOT BY AGENDA ITEM ORDER.
SO WE MAY, MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF WHACK THERE.
AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE BE SPEAKING ON TWO ITEMS. SO IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ON TWO ITEMS, YOU CAN SPEAK ON THE FIRST ITEM, THREE MINUTES AND THE SECOND ITEM, THREE MINUTES.
AND, UM, THE CITY STAFF CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IS MONITORING THERE.
SO WHEN THE BUZZER GOES OFF, THAT'S IT YOU'LL BE A CUT OFF AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
SO I'M HERE TO, OH, I CALLED YOU, DID YOU NOT? I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY YES, I DIDN'T HEAR MYSELF.
SO ANYWAY, I'M THEY CALL YOU BECAUSE I WENT DOWN THE LIST.
SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR, BUT
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I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, YOU SAYING THAT, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE, UH, SPEAKERS.OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SHELLEY LEBA MOM, ITEM THREE B.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE AND I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM THREE D AS THE CHAIR SAID, I WANT TO THANK THIS COMMISSION AGAIN FOR AGREEING TO FORM THE WORK GROUP ON SNR SO WE CAN MAKE MUCH NEEDED CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM.
OUR WORK GROUP DID GET TO MEET IN LATE FEBRUARY, JUST A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE SHELTER SHUT DOWN DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.
BUT ONCE THE SHELTER CLOSED, WE KNEW THEY HAD BIGGER AND MORE IMMEDIATE ISSUES TO ADDRESS.
BRANDIS, WE WOULD JUST PUT OUR EFFORTS ON HOLD AND MID JUNE, WE WERE TOLD BY SHELTER LEADERSHIP THAT THE SNR PROGRAM WAS ON HOLD PENDING THE HUMANE SOCIETY DECISION TO RESIGN SPAY NEUTER FOR SNR CAT, WHICH TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY HAVE NOT YET RESUMED.
HOWEVER, THIS WEEK THE SHELTER CONFIRMED IT HAS BEEN DOING SOME SNR ON ITS OWN WITHOUT THE HUMANE SOCIETIES INVOLVEMENT, WHICH GIVES US SOME CAUSE FOR CONCERN BECAUSE THE HUMANE SOCIETY SERVED AS A SAFETY NET FOR THESE CATS.
THIS RECENT DEVELOPMENT MAKES US EVEN MORE COMMITTED TO MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SNR PROGRAM.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY AND TO CONTINUE OUR WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.
UM, NEXT LANA LESLEY ON FOR LAUREN SILVA ON I'M NOT SURE, BUT GO AHEAD AND LANA, THANK YOU.
I'M SPEAKING TODAY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT AUSTIN SHOULD BE A TIER ONE PILOT CITY ON THE HAAS PROJECT.
I SUPPORT THE HOSS MODEL'S COMMITMENT TO COMBATING DISCRIMINATION AND INEQUITY IN ANIMAL SERVICES AND ITS MISSION TO SUPPORT THE HUMAN ANIMAL BOND BY WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY AND RESOLVE BARRIERS, TO PET RETENTION, ADOPTION AND FOSTERING THE HOSS MODEL, FOREGROUNDS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN AN ANIMAL IN DISTRESS AND HOW OFTEN THAT ANIMAL IS LINKED TO A PERSON EXPERIENCING DIFFICULTY IN THEIR LIVES.
AS AUSTIN FACES, MOUNTING UNEMPLOYMENT, HOUSELESSNESS AND FOOD INSECURITY, WE CAN HELP LEAD THE CHARGE AND FINDING INNOVATIVE WAYS TO KEEP ANIMALS SAFE, ALIVE, AND WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
WHILE OF COURSE, CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE CORE SERVICES WE KNOW ALREADY WORK, WE CAN USE HAAS TO ENSURE AUSTIN'S ANIMAL SERVICES, MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY LIVE AND ARE ACCESSIBLE AND WELCOMING TO EVERYONE.
AND AS YOU GIVE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION TO AUSTIN'S POSITION ON THIS ISSUE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VISIT HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES.ORG AND READ THROUGH THE WEBSITE, PARTICULARLY THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE.
AND FINALLY, I HOPE YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THE MIXED FLUENCY OF ANIMAL LOVERS ACROSS THE CITY.
NOT EVERYONE WHO LOVES ANIMALS AND WANTS TO SEE THEM RESCUED AND TAKEN CARE OF IS FLUENT IN THE FIELD OF ANIMAL WELFARE.
HAAS HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER MANY OF OUR COUNTRY'S BEST THINKERS IN ANIMAL WELFARE, INCLUDING AUSTIN'S OWN DOCTOR ELLEN JEFFERSON, AND WE SHOULDN'T SHY AWAY FROM THAT EXPERTISE.
WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE AND I AM FOR HAAS.
ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST US, I CONTINUE TO HEAR IS THAT THE PET FOSTERING MODEL PUTS AN UNFAIR EXPECTATION ON THE COMMUNITY.
THAT IT'S A BURDEN OVER RESEARCH SUGGESTS THE OPPOSITE.
THAT FOSTERING IS A FORM OF VOLUNTEERING AND VOLUNTEERING AS LONG BEEN KNOWN TO INCREASE HAPPINESS AND HEALTHINESS IN PEOPLE.
A RESEARCH PAPER PUBLISHED IN 2017 STATES PARTICIPATION IN VOLUNTARY SERVICES IS SIGNIFICANTLY PREDICTIVE OF BETTER MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH LIFE SATISFACTION.
SELF-ESTEEM HAPPINESS, LOWER DEPRESSIVE SYSTEM, PSYCHOLOGICAL DISTRESS, AND MORTALITY AND FUNCTIONAL, INABILITY BLUSTERING.
PETS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT THEY'VE HELPED THE COMMUNITY THROUGH VOLUNTEERING AND ALSO PROVIDES THE BENEFITS OF PET OWNERSHIP.
THE CDC STATES STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE BOND BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THEIR PETS CAN INCREASE FITNESS, LOWER STRESS AND BRING HAPPINESS TO THEIR OWNERS.
AND IN HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN, THE PET FOSTERING EXPERIENCE CAN AID IN THEIR OVERALL DEVELOPMENT REGARDING PET OWNERSHIP, THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF CHILD AND ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY STATES, CHILDREN RAISED WITH PETS SHOW MANY BENEFITS, DEVELOPING POSITIVE FEELINGS ABOUT PETS CAN CONTRIBUTE TO A CHILD'S SELF ESTEEM AND SELF CONFIDENCE.
POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH PETS CAN AID IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF TRUST AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHERS.
A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH A PET CAN ALSO HELP IN DEVELOPING NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION, COMPASSION, AND EMPATHY.
THERE ARE TANGIBLE QUANTIFIABLE BENEFITS TO PET FOSTERING AS WELL.
THE TIME DEDICATED TO PET FOSTERING CAN BE UTILIZED AS STUDENT, COMMUNITY HOURS FOR SCHOOL AND VERIFIABLE JOB EXPERIENCE ON A RESUME.
AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ALREADY HAS A PROCEDURE FOR VERIFYING VOLUNTEER HOURS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THE BENEFITS THIS TIME SPENT GIVE TO THOSE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES
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IN A FIELD DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO ANIMALS.THE TIME SPENT FOSTERING CAN EARN INDIVIDUALS ON THE JOB EXPERIENCE, INVALUABLE NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.
IF YOUR FEAR IS THAT PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR SICK OR INJURED ANIMALS.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE HOSPITAL ISN'T ELIMINATING ANY SERVICES THAT ALREADY EXIST AND WORK IN THE ANIMAL SERVICES WORLD HAS TAKES ABLE AND READY ANIMALS OFF THE HARD FOR THE SHELTER AND PUTS THEM INTO A SAFE, COMFORTABLE HOME WHILE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE ANY AND ALL SERVICES THE ANIMAL WOULD RECEIVE.
HAD THEY BEEN HOUSED AT THE SHELTER IN THE FIRST PLACE? THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE.
SOMEONE TEXTED ME AND SAID THAT THE ATX N HAD NO VIDEO AND POSSIBLY NO AUDIO.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT GUYS CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, BUT PLEASE TRY.
UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS BEVERLY LUNA FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINE PER RECA.
THIS IS BEVERLY LUNA WITH AUSTIN LOST AND FOUND PETS.
I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT INCREASING THE BUDGET FOR THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, PARTICULARLY INCREASING THE BUDGET FOR ACS.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T PICK UP ANIMALS, WE STILL NEED THEM TO GO OUT AND, AND HELP PEOPLE WITH THE ANIMALS AND HELP THEM FIND THEIR HOMES AND SCAN THEM.
AND EVEN THOUGH FIRE STATIONS CAN SCAN THE ANIMALS, THEY CAN'T GET THE MICRO TIP INFORMATION FROM THE MICROCHIP COMPANY.
WE HAD SOMEONE TWO WEEKS AGO THAT HAD BEEN HOLDING A DOG FOR A MONTH BECAUSE SHE HAD TAKEN THE DOG TO THE FIRE STATION TO BE SCANNED AND SAT THERE THINKING THAT WAS ALL SHE NEEDED TO DO AND WAS JUST WAITING FOR AN OWNER TO CALL.
UM, I AM SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT WE ONLY HAVE FIVE ACS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
OUR SHELTER IS STRESSED UNDERFUNDED.
EVEN IF YOU GO TO A DIFFERENT MODEL, WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED A LOT MORE ACS THAN THAT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
MY NAME IS CHRISTINE PORRECCA.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE AND I'M IN FAVOR OF MAKING AUSTIN A PILOT CITY FOR THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES OR HOSS PROJECTS I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CLOSELY.
AND A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ONLINE IN THE MEDIA AND FROM SPEAKERS AT THIS COMMISSION'S LAST MEETING, OPPOSING THE REDUCTION OF ANIMALS, TAKE IT IN AT THE CITY.
ANIMAL SHELTER REDUCED INTAKE HAS ALSO BEEN INACCURATELY CONNECTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF THE PROPOSED HOGS MODEL.
UNDER THE HOSS MODEL SHELTER INTAKE POLICY WOULD NOT CHANGE.
NOTHING WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, BUT FIRST MAKE THAT CLEAR.
THE HOUSE PROJECT ADDS PROGRAMS, PROVIDING ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS THAT INCLUDE PEER-TO-PEER FOSTERING MEDICAL SERVICES AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE RESOURCES FOR ALL AUSTIN COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ACCESS INCREASING LIFESAVING AND REDUCING HOMELESS ANIMALS.
THE HOSS PROJECT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETHINK THE SERVICES.
AUSTIN PROVIDES THE PET OWNERS TO REALLOCATE SOME RESOURCES TO PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS. CUSTOMIZED EACH NEIGHBORHOOD'S NEEDS HUSKS TO PREVENT ANIMALS FROM BEING PUT IN THE SHOVEL SHELTER, KENNEL OR CAGE IN THE FIRST PLACE, GIVING THEM A CHANCE AT A BETTER OUTCOME TO SHARE A PERSONAL STORY.
A FEW WEEKS AGO, MY NEIGHBOR SPOTTED A LETHARGIC LARGE DOG LAYING UNDER A PILE OF PALLETS NEXT TO HIS HOUSE.
HE IMMEDIATELY EMAILED ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS POSTED INFO AND PICKS OF THE DOG ON NEXT DOOR AND HOURS WENT BY AND NO ONE RECOGNIZED THE DOG.
HE CONTINUED TO LAY THERE ALL AFTERNOON, SLOWLY TAKING FOOD AND WATER PROVIDED TO HIM, BUT BARELY ABLE TO LIFT HIS HEAD.
AS THE FUN STARTED TO SET MY NEIGHBOR DIDN'T WANT TO CALL THREE, ONE, ONE AS HE DIDN'T TRUST THE SYSTEM, NOR THINK THAT THE DOG WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME IF HE'D LANDED IN THE SHELTER.
BUT WHAT OPTIONS DID WE HAVE? I CALLED TWO RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS AND NEITHER ANSWERED THEIR PHONES, WHICH IS FAIR ENOUGH IF THEY'RE OUT DOING THE WORK OF RESCUING ANIMALS, BUT WE COULDN'T COERCE THE DOGS TO COME OUT FROM UNDER THE PALLET.
SO HE WAS EXHAUSTED AND WE DIDN'T KNOW HIS TEMPERAMENT OR FULL SIZE.
IN THE END, I MADE THE DECISION TO CALL THREE, ONE, ONE THAT I WANT THE DOG TO SIT IN THE SHELTER.
BUT AM I GLAD THAT AN OFFICER WAS ON SITE WITHIN 40 MINUTES AND WAS ABLE TO SAFELY SECURE THE DOG, SCAN HIM FOR A CHIP, WHICH WAS PRESENT, BUT NOT REGISTERED AND GET HIM THE MEDICAL CARE HE NEEDED.
HEY, UH, DAVID, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M AT CITY HALL.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU GIVE ME A THUMBS UP? IF YOU CAN HEAR IT? OKAY.
SO YOU CAN STILL HEAR ME SO YOU CAN HEAR THE SPEAKERS.
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HEAR YOU.SO I NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, GREG NASER CAN I, UH, THINK I PICKED YOU UP FOR A SECOND THERE.
CAN I GET YOU OFF MUTE AND SEE IF I CAN HEAR YOU? HEY, IT'S ME.
I CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE HERE AT CITY HALL.
UH, CAN ANYBODY ELSE CHIME IN ANYBODY? CAN YOU HEAR ME? PEOPLE OKAY.
OH, I CAN HEAR ANIMAL SERVICES.
UH, EDWARD, YOUR, UM, MIKE SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING IN AND OUT, LIKE REAL BAD.
I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY CHOPPY.
WAS THIS IS AT WORD IS BETTER, MUCH, BETTER, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH BETTER.
RIGHT? SO, SO DAVID, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HERE, UNFORTUNATELY.
I'M STILL NOT HEARING ANYTHING.
DID YOU? I SEE THAT YOU SWITCHED TO YOUR PHONE, BUT I'M STILL NOT HEARING ANYTHING FROM YOUR SIDE.
I LOST AUDIO OFF THE SPEAKER TOO.
SO YOU LOST AUDIO TO THE SPEAKER.
UM, I'M GONNA RESET THE PHONE BRIDGE THEN.
AND, UH, DAVID, I WOULD SUGGEST DISCONNECTING AND RECONNECTING WHILE I'M DOING THAT.
I WAS ALSO JUST TEXTED BY SOMEONE THAT THERE'S NO VIDEO ON THE CITY SIDE.
IT SEEMS LIKE ATX IN, MIGHT BE DOWN, BUT I AM RECORDING THE MEETING FOR IT TO BE PUT UP, UH, EITHER TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY.
I FORGET WHEN THEY DO THAT, BUT I'M RECORDING IT.
THIS IS MYRNA FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
UM, JUST CAME OVER TO INFORM EVERYONE THAT ATX N IS HAVING MAJOR TECHNICAL ISSUES.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE, UM, IN TOUCH WITH SPECTRUM.
IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE INTERNET IS DOWN, BUT THE MEETING CAN BE VIEWED THROUGH SPECTRUM AT T AND T OR CHANNEL SIX, UM, THROUGH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
OTHERWISE WE ARE, UH, AS DANIEL MENTIONED, WE'RE RECORDING THE MEETING SO THAT IT IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.
UM, AFTER THE MEETING FOR VIEWING, THANK YOU.
WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER.
PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.
IF YOU'RE THE MEETING ORGANIZER, PRESS STAR.
NOW PLEASE WAIT FOR THE LEADER TO ADMIT YOU TO THE, YOU ARE NOW JOINING THE MEETING.
I'M ALSO TOLD THAT PEOPLE THAT DOES ZOOM LINE IS NOT WORKING.
UM, THE CALL IN LINE IS NOT WORKING EITHER.
NO, I AM RE BRIDGING EVERYTHING.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY THAT FIXES THAT ISSUE.
WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHENEVER THAT'S BACK UP.
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WELCOME TO WEBEX.ENTER YOUR ACCESS CODE OR MEETING NUMBER FOLLOWED BY POUND.
ENTER YOUR ATTENDEE ID NUMBER FOLLOWED BY POUND.
SO I HAVE RE BRIDGED BOTH PHONE LINES TO THIS CALL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO, TO TAKE OVER OR IF WE WOULD JUST WANT TO WAIT FOR DAVID TO RECONNECT.
UM, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE FROM HERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE GIVE DAVID A FEW MINUTES AT LEAST.
AND IF NOT, THEN THE VICE CHAIR, I GUESS, COULD TAKE OVER AT SOME POINT, IF IT'S HOPELESS WITH DAVID, OUR VICE CHAIR IS NOT, HE'S NOT HERE, BUT THAT WOULD BE NANCY.
NEMA WOULD BE THE NEXT IN LINE.
JUST AS A CHECK, UH, PEOPLE ON THE STAFF LINE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, ANYONE CAN SPEAK UP.
I DON'T, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN GET TO LOG ON, BUT OKAY.
HOWEVER, UM, PEOPLE COULDN'T AS A, AT LEAST A FEW MINUTES AGO, UM, NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC COULD SEE IT OR HEAR IT.
UM, OKAY, WELL, LET'S JUST CONTINUE WITH RUSTY TALI, PLEASE.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN JOINING THE HAAS PILOT.
AND I WANT TO ADD A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHY I THINK A COUNCIL RESOLUTION IS SO IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW, MANY POINT A FEW YEARS AGO TO MAKE AUSTIN NO CHILL, NO TRACTION IS DIFFICULT.
AND, UM, IT WASN'T BEING EMBRACED AND WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
IT ENDED UP HAPPENING BECAUSE THE COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION, REQUIRING IT WITH TIMELINE GOALS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
UH, THE CITY RIGHT NOW INDICATES THAT THEY'RE DOING SOME OF THE HAAS PROTOCOLS, BUT THAT IS NOT REALLY THE CASE.
CITIES ACROSS THE NATION THAT ARE IN THE PILOT ARE HAVING GREAT SUCCESS AND ARE BENEFITING FROM ALL OF THE SUPPORT AND TRADING OF INFORMATION THAT ALL OF THE OTHER 17 CITIES ARE TRADING.
CAUSE THERE ARE 18 CITIES IN THE PILOT.
AND EVEN THOUGH APA AS A GROUP IS ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THIS.
OUR CITY HAS CHOSEN NOT TO, TO BE IN THE PILOT.
AND THIS OPPORTUNITY IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONLY GOOD THINGS TO COME OUT AT COBURN.
A WINDOW HAS OPENED HERE WHERE ANIMAL SHELTERING CAN ACTUALLY BE CHANGED FOREVER.
AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND THE CITY NEEDS TO EMBRACE THIS NOW TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT SHELTER MANAGEMENT IS DONE, COVERT BEGINS TO FADE AWAY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS
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AND SHELTERS START FILLING BACK UP.THIS OPPORTUNITY WILL BE GONE.
UM, SO THE RESOLUTION IS WHAT FORCES IT TO BE A TIMELY DECISION AND NOT PUT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SPEAK.
YOU'RE ON FOR THREE C AND FOUR, A FOLLOWED BY SHARON.
UH, MY NAME IS LESLIE PADILLA AND I'M A FORMER LONGTIME VOLUNTEER AND BEHAVIOR DOG FOSTER AT APA AND AAC.
UM, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT BOTH THE CODE REVISION AND A CASE PROPOSAL.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL SEE HOW THE TWO ARE RELATED.
UH, THE COMMISSION PASSED THE PROPOSED SET OF CODE REVISIONS LAST YEAR.
AFTER SOME MEMBERS TRIED THEIR BEST TO PREVENT THE PUBLIC FROM LEARNING ABOUT IT AND COMMENTING ON IT.
WHEN THE PUBLIC FINALLY HAD A CHANCE TO COMMENT TO THIS COMMISSION ABOUT IT, A NUMBER OF EXPERIENCED PEOPLE GAVE SPECIFIC WARNINGS THAT THE RIGHT TO RESCUE LANGUAGE WOULD ENSURE THAT DANGEROUS DOGS WOULD BE RELEASED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
ONE EXPERIENCE TRAINER EXPLAINED THAT NEARLY ALL DOG BITES ARE BASED ON FEAR.
HE POINTED OUT THAT BY PROVIDING THAT A BITE BASED ON FEAR IS CONSIDERED PROVOKED.
IT WOULD HAVE THE RESULT OF EXCUSING NEARLY ALL BITES, BUT THIS COMMISSION MADE NO CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE BASED ON THAT INPUT WITHIN WEEKS OF CITY COUNCIL'S ACTION ON THE ORDINANCE, AN APO WAS HORRIFICALLY ATTACKED BY THE DOG NAMED SNOWBALL AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSIONER CLINTON DENIED THAT THE RECENT CHANGES WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ATTACK.
SHE SAID THAT IT WAS CLEAR TO HIM THAT THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T REQUIRE SNOWBALL TO BE OFFERED BACK TO HIS OWNER.
WELL, THAT MAY BE COMMISSIONER CLINTON'S OPINION, BUT THE DOCUMENTATION RELATED TO THE INCIDENT SHOWS OTHERWISE SHELTER MANAGERS BELIEVED THAT BASED ON SNOWBALLS PRIOR BITES IN THE SHELTER SNOWBALLED, DIDN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF A DOG THAT THE SHELTER COULD EUTHANIZE WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE NEW NOTICE TO RESCUE PROVISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE.
I HAVE TO ASK YOU IF IT TAKES TWO LAWYERS, COMMISSIONERS, CLINTON, AND COMMISSIONER NEEMAR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROVOKED AND UNPROVOKED MEANS.
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE ORDINANCE.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL MAKE NEEDED CHANGE IT TO THE ORDINANCE BEFORE ANOTHER TERRIBLE INCIDENT OCCURRED.
AND HERE'S HOW THIS RELATES TO APS PROPOSAL.
THIS COMMISSION HAS CONSTANTLY PRESSURED AAC TO MEET EVER-INCREASING LIVE OUTCOME NUMBERS, VOCAL ADVOCATES RESPOND, BUT SEPARATELY TO NEARLY EVERY SINGLE EUTHANASIA, THE DECISION SORRY, EUTHANASIA DECISION TO SHELTER MAKES ESPECIALLY DOGS.
LAST YEAR, SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MICROMANAGED AACS HANDLING OF DECISIONS ABOUT EUTHANASIA OF CATS.
SOMETIMES BEFORE THOSE CATS HAD EVEN BEEN IMPOUNDED, BUT THIS COMMISSION HAS NEVER LOOKED AT THE RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED TO DO ALL THIS LIFESAVING.
SO IF HAAS IS NOW NEEDED TO REDEFINE SHELTERING, THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO ADMIT THAT THE OLD, NO KILL MODEL PACKING SHELTERS TO CAPACITY AND HANDING OUT ANIMALS WITH LITTLE SCREENING HAS FAILED.
SO SPECIFICALLY AT HAAS CHANGING TO AGENDA ITEM FOUR, A M APA LIKES TO EMPHASIZE THAT THEY'RE THE CITY'S LARGEST RESCUE PARTNER, BUT WHAT HAS APA BEEN DOING TO HELP AUSTIN DURING THE PANDEMIC IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS HAAS PROGRAM AND THEN PRESSURING THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE, SUPPOSED TO BE A DIRECT COMP CONTRIBUTION.
WE KNOW THERE'S CONSIDERABLE NEED RIGHT NOW, APA IS NOT HOWEVER, TAKING AN OWNER SURRENDERS DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHICH IT COULD DO.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR THOSE ANIMALS TO GO TO A MUNICIPAL SHELTER.
HASN'T OPENED IT TO VETERINARY CLINIC, TO NEEDY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH DO I'M GOING TO TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS HAS AFFORDED THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS.
THE CHAIR SAID THAT I HAD THREE MINUTES FOR EACH ITEM.
YOU HAD THREE MINUTES TOTAL MA'AM UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
CAN I I CLAIRE TO SPEAK? HELLO? I THINK WE'VE LOST THE DAVID AGAIN.
SO YEAH, WE'VE DEFINITELY LOST YOU AGAIN, DAVID.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE, I CAN STILL SEE FINE, UH, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, JUST CANNOT HEAR YOU.
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UM, I GOT A TEXT FROM DAVIDSON NANCY, PLEASE.CHAIR FOR LINDA HAS THE SPEAKERS LIST.
HELLO, THIS IS JOSEPH IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
THIS IS JOSEPH IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE REAL QUICK.
WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL OUT THE SPEAKERS.
SO IF YOU CAN JUST LET US KNOW WHEN TO CALL THE NEXT ONE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHARON WINTER ROCK.
THE ON DECK IS LUCY FERNANDEZ.
HI, MY NAME IS SHARON WISTER ITCH.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT 10 AND I AM IN FAVOR OF MAKING AUSTIN A TIER ONE PILOT CITY FOR THE HOUSTON.
I'M SORRY, THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES OR HOSS PROJECT.
I AM ALSO ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ANNUAL ANIMAL POPULATION OF AUSTIN.
ONE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN RAISED ABOUT THE HOPS PROJECT IS WHY NOW IN THE MIDST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, DO WE NEED TO DO THIS? CAN IT WAIT TILL WE ARE NOT IN THE MIDST OF A PANDEMIC, A SOCIAL JUSTICE MOVEMENT AND ECONOMIC CRISIS RECORD JOBLESSNESS AND POSSIBLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AUSTIN, PEOPLE AND FAMILIES FINDING THEMSELVES HOMELESS IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS NO ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND MORE ARE THE EXACT REASON WHY THE TIME IS NOW AN AUSTIN.
SO MANY AUSTINITES ARE OUT OF WORK CASH POOR AND HAVING TO MAKE SERIOUS AND PAINFUL CHOICES ABOUT THEIR BUDGETS ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE THEY WORK AND WHERE THEY LIVE.
WE KNOW EVICTIONS ARE COMING, AND WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE IN SURRENDERED AND ABANDONED ANIMALS.
WE CAN USE HOSS RESOURCES AND THE KNOWLEDGE DATABASE ALREADY BEING BUILT BY 30 PILOT CITIES TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THESE PRESSING PROBLEMS, SOLUTIONS LIKE REHOMING ANIMALS WITHOUT USING THE SHELTER.
KENNEL, KEEPING PETS WITH FAMILIES BY PROVIDING NO COST OR LOW COST MEDICAL AND BEHAVIOR SUPPORT, PROVIDING TEMPORARY FOSTERS THAT ALLOW FAMILIES TO RECLAIM THEIR PETS.
AS SOON AS THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY STABLE AND HAVE APPROPRIATE HOUSING.
OUR CURRENT SHELTER SYSTEM WAS NOT TO ADDRESS, NOT DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES OUR IS FACING, BUT HAAS IS SPEAKING OF ISSUES.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF EQUITY OFTEN LEADS THE NATION IN ANIMAL PROTECTION, BUT OUR SYSTEM IS NOT PERFECT.
THE SOCIAL JUSTICE MOVEMENT HAS SHOWN HOW INEQUITY CAN NOT ONLY AFFECT A FAMILY'S ABILITY TO KEEP FEED AND PROVIDE MEDICAL CARE FOR THEIR PET.
IT CAN EVEN AFFECT THEIR ABILITY TO RECLAIM A LOT OF PET ISSUES, SUCH AS HOW TO GET TO THE SHELTER DURING WORK HOURS.
YOU CAN'T BRING AN ANIMAL ON MASS TRANSIT.
WHAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR? WHAT IF YOU CAN'T PAY THE FEE ANIMALS THAT REMAIN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THEY ARE FOUND IN, HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER CHANCE OF MAKING IT BACK HOME THAN ONES WHO ARE TAKEN TO THE SHELTER.
WE OWE IT TO OUR COMMUNITY TO BE NOT ONE MORE SYSTEM OF DISCRIMINATION.
AS MAYA ANGELOU SAID, WHEN WE KNOW BETTER, WE DO BETTER.
WE HAVE NEVER BEEN A CITY TO TURN AWAY FROM DOING THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE IT REQUIRES CHANGE AND EFFORT.
AND THE REALITY IS IF WE DON'T CHANGE AND CHANGE NOW MORE ANIMALS IN OUR CITY WILL DIE.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.
NEXT SPEAKER IS LUCY FERNANDEZ.
DID WE LOSE THE LINE AGAIN GUYS? NO, WE DON'T HEAR HER ON OUR SIDE EITHER.
I JUST GOT A MESSAGE SAYING THAT THERE WERE SOME BANDWIDTH ISSUES.
IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE IT WAS ADDRESSED JUST TO MY COMPUTER.
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SO NANCY, GO AHEAD AND CALL LUCY AGAIN.I THINK WE MIGHT BE GOOD TO GO.
ARE YOU THERE, LUCY? ARE YOU THERE? OKAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET HER TO, TO COME THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, DEJA VU FOR YA.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO AND I AM IN FAVOR OF MAKING AUSTIN A PILOT CITY FOR THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES PROJECT.
UM, I WORKED FOR OFTEN TESTS KEPT ALIVE, BUT I AM THINKING PERSONALLY, UM, WITH IMAGINE A JOURNEY OF A STRAIGHT PET THROUGH THE COST MODEL, IT GETS MIRRORED FINDS A WATERY ANIMAL IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS A LOT OF THEM DONE BEFORE, THERE IS NO VISIBLE, THERE ARE NO VISIBLE TAG AND THEY DON'T LOOK FAMILIAR.
MAYBE THEY'RE SCARED, INJURED, VISIBLY PREGNANT, ET CETERA.
YOU REACH OUT TO A DIRECTOR SHELTER HOTLINE WHERE DISTRICT SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE IS DEPLOYED.
IT WOULD PROVIDE RESOURCES OF TRAPPING, TRIAGED, AND TRANSPORTATION TRAINED.
AND WELL-EQUIPPED STAFF, VOLUNTEERS AND FOSTERS OUR DECK ARE STANDING BY TO ENSURE AN EFFICIENT, LOVING PATH TO GETTING THAT STRAIGHT, A STRAIGHT PATH MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL CARE DISRESPECT DISTRICT SPECIFIC ACCESS TO MICROCHIP SCANNING, RTO SERVICES, SPAYING, NEUTER, AND MORE.
THE GOAL IS AVOIDING STRESS AND TRAUMA FOR A LIVE OUTCOME FOR EVERY ANIMAL USING THE EXISTING RESOURCES AND COMPASSION THAT LIVES WITHIN WOULD BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE AND TRAIN EXISTING RESOURCES AND RESIDENT LED ORGANIZATIONS.
AND AGAIN, JUST MINIMIZING THE STRESS AND TRAUMA FOR EVERY STRAIGHT ANIMAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SANDRA MUELLER FOLLOWED BY PAT BELL.
PAT, PLEASE, YOU, UH, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, YOUR PHONE IS MUTED.
SO HIT STAR SIX IN ORDER TO UNMUTE IT.
ARE YOU READY? YES, MA'AM GO AHEAD.
COMMISSIONER SANDRA MULLER IN DISTRICT SEVEN, I AM OPPOSED TO ITEM FOUR.
A I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE NOT IMPLEMENT THE HALF PILOT IN AUSTIN.
ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS, SHORTER, DETERMINED.
IT WAS BEST TO WAIT AND CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES.
OFFICER JOHN LYNN HAS SAID MULTIPLE TIMES, AAC IS NOT PARTICIPATING.
I WOULD ALSO URGE YOU TO WAIT A YEAR FOR UNBIASED AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE RESEARCH END DATA FROM OPEN INTAKE SHELTERS TO SEE IF IT'S SIXTIES OR FAILED.
DALLAS AND EL PASO ARE PARTICIPATING IN POPULATION INTAKE.
AUSTIN IS SITUATED BETWEEN THEM.
SO THERE'S NO REASON OR URGENCY FOR AUSTIN TO JOIN.
PLUS THEN AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE 16 OTHER PROMINENT COMMUNITIES AND YOU MUST FIRST SURVEY THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO MAKE THEM TO SHELTER, BURDENING THEM WITH THE JOB OF ANIMAL CONTROL, MEDICAL CARE, BEHAVIORIST MARKETING SPECIALIST AND ADOPTION AGENCY FOR AN UNKNOWN AMOUNT OF TIME.
RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STAY HEALTHY TO RETURN TO WORK OR SCHOOL THEY'RE TRYING TO HOMESCHOOL.
AND SOME ARE LOOKING FOR JOBS IN HOMES.
SO I'M OPPOSED TO HAVE FOR A FEW REASONS THAT I ASK YOU TO PLEASE CONSIDER ONE.
THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING REGARDING IMPOUNDING AUTHORITY, OWNERSHIP AND GENERAL LIABILITY HAS HAS 12 ELEMENTS, BUT AS THEY STATE THEY'RE WORKING ON 35 MASSIVE PROBLEMS. SO CLEARLY MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE.
ROLLING IT OUT HAS ALSO LACKS REAL TIME DATA TO DETERMINE IF THE IDEA IS WORKING OR NOT.
AND THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S A STRAIGHT ANIMAL SURVEY FROM THE FIRST HALF OF 2019, WHERE 716 RESPONDENTS WERE ASKED IF GIVEN RESOURCES, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HANG ON TO THE PET LONGER? 86% SAID, NO ONE RESPONDENT SAID NO.
IF IT, MY TWO YEAR OLD AND RECENTLY EL PASO, A TIER ONE PILOT TOLD THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WANT TO QUOTE, PREVENT ANIMALS FROM COMING INTO THE SHELTER AND ALSO QUOTING THE SHELTER IS YOUR LAST RESORT.
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AND THEY WERE ALREADY CITIZENS PROTESTING AS MANAGED INTAKE.WHEN I WAS A VOLUNTEER AT APA, I HAD A MEETING WITH DR.
JEFFERSON OVER SOMETHING, AND SHE HAD TOLD ME THAT IF THEY ONLY HAD MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL ANIMALS AT T LACKS, NO ONE WOULD COME TO A TOP.
IF SHE'S PUSHING THIS MODEL ON GOVERNMENT SHELTERS, IT'S A PILOT IS IMPLEMENTED AND I FIND AN ANIMAL AND IT'S COVERED IN FLEAS.
I STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE SHELTER TO GET PREVENTATIVE.
IF I'M LOOKING TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL AND I'VE GOT A FEW IN MIND NOW I HAVE TO GO TO THREE DIFFERENT HOMES OF THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE MEETING WITH STRANGERS DURING A PANDEMIC.
HOW IS THIS PLAN? IMPROVING EQUITY? SO IN CONCLUSION, AUSTIN DOES NOT NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HALF PILOT, PLEASE VOTE.
NO, PLEASE PUT A LITTLE MORE EFFORT INTO SPAN NEUTER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
MA'AM I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT JOANNE.
HELLO, DEZ, BUT SHE NEVER CALLED IN.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY SHE WAS ON THE LIST.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS PAT BELL, TRAVIS, AND SHE'S OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR THE DAY.
YOU HAVE TO HIT STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE TO UNMUTE.
HELLO, PAT, ARE YOU THERE PAT BELT DRESS.
YOUR PHONE IS MUTED YOU TO HIT STAR SIX.
DO WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ON ANDREA, GREG? I'M GOING TO SAY, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS ONE MORE TIME.
YOU NEED TO PRESS STAR SIX OR ASTERISK.
SIX TO COME IN TO THE LINE CHAIR.
THERE IS A, THE LAST COLOR IS A, DID NOT MAKE THE PHONE CALL IN TIME.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN MOVE ON.
[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES REAL QUICK.THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING ON JULY SIX, 2020, WHICH WERE SENT TO YOU, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ANYTIME TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES.
SECOND, SECOND MOTION BY NANCY.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[a. AAC and Animal Services Monthly Reports February, March, April, June, July 2020]
OKAY.WE'LL MOVE ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS STAFF.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, BUT YOU HEAR US? YOU CAN HEAR US.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO GO OVER, SO I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF.
YOU RECEIVED ALL THE MONTHLY REPORTS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE, I CAN PLEASE PLEASE ASK.
I WILL JUST SIGN UP WHAT CURRENTLY WE'RE DOING.
UH, FOR JUNE AND JULY, WE WERE SEEING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 25 ANIMALS COME IN A DAY AND OUR OUTTAKE WAS ANYWHERE IN THE 20 RANGE.
SO, UH, OUR INVENTORY IN THE SHELTER DID EXPLODE SOME, BUT I WANT TO SAY THE FIRST 11 DAYS OF AUGUST, UM, HAS SEEN A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
WE'VE SEEN THE 25 INTAKE AVERAGE PER DAY COME IN, BUT WE'VE SEEN 27 A DAY AVERAGE GO OUT FOR THE FIRST 11 DAYS.
THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FILL UP OUR APPOINTMENTS, WHICH PREVIOUS TO THAT WE WERE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME DOING.
WE STILL ARE HAVING SOME FALLOUTS.
UH, WE CALL PEOPLE 48 HOURS BEFORE THEIR APPOINTMENT.
WE CALL THEM 24 HOURS BEFORE THEIR APPOINTMENT AND THEY STILL DON'T SHOW UP FOR THEIR APPOINTMENT, BUT, UH, BUT WE ARE MAKING HEADWAY.
AND WE HOPE THAT AUGUST WILL CONTINUE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
UH, WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE WE'VE BEEN CLOSED, UH, THAT WILL HELP, UH, WITH PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN APPOINTMENTS.
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UM, TAKE A LOT OF THE CALLS AND, UM, EMAILS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.SO, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT AND SOME OF THE FIRST IS SUPPOSED TO ROLL OUT.
THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST IS SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SEEMS LIKE A LONG PROCESS SINCE MARCH, BUT, UM, CONSIDERING ALL THE IT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, WITH THIS PANDEMIC, UM, I'M, I'M PLEASED THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME TECHNOLOGY THAT ARE LIKE, UM, WE HAVE, WE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS PUSHED BACK.
THERE'S A THREE PHASE RE-INTEGRATION PLAN AND THEY PUSHED PHASE ONE BACK TO START ON SEPTEMBER THE 28TH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY INTO PHASE TWO HERE AT THE SHELTER AND PROBABLY SOME OF IT'S ALREADY IN THE PHASE THREE.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE, I THINK, NINE VOLUNTEERS A DAY SLOTS AVAILABLE THAT ARE HERE.
SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF OUR REPORTS, MR. BLAND? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, UM, OUR LAST MEETING SITUATION, WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED A LARGE NUMBER OF LETTERS IN OUR COMMISSION INBOX AS WELL ABOUT THIS.
UH, WHAT STEPS HAVE YOU TAKEN AND WHAT STEPS DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE TO IMPROVE THIS SITUATION? DID YOU HEAR THE GRASS YOU'RE BROKE UP ON YOUR OWN? THE FIRST PART OF THE WE MISSED, OKAY.
AT OUR LAST MEETING OVER 20 CITIZENS EXPRESSED FRUSTRATIONS ABOUT THE CURRENT INTAKE SITUATION.
AND WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF LETTERS IN OUR COMMISSION INBOX AS WELL ABOUT IT.
UH, WHAT STEPS HAVE YOU TAKEN AND WHAT STEPS DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION? WELL, I THINK THE STEPS THAT WE TOOK THAT IMPROVED THE SITUATION IS, UM, WE, WE ARE TAKING SICK AND INJURED HERE AT THE SHELTER.
WE ARE TAKING ANIMALS HERE ON CAMPUS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC WE DIDN'T DO.
AND IF SOMEONE, UM, PICKS UP A STRAY AND THEY CANNOT KEEP THAT THEY CONTACT REWIND ONE AND OUR APO OFFICERS WILL GO INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GET THAT ANIMAL FROM HIM, RYAN WILL BE NEXT.
UM, THE FIRST THING I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, I DID NOT RECEIVE THE EMAIL, UH, THE, UM, UH, UPDATES, UH, FROM THE CITY, UH, THE MONTHLY REPORTS, THE LAW, I WAS JUST CHECKING IN AS WE WERE TALKING.
AND THE LAST THING I HAVE THIS FROM, UM, PRIOR TO THE JULY MEETING.
SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND RESENDING, THOSE WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, AND THEN MY ONLY QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON, UM, THE LAST QUESTION WAS, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFICATION, WHICH IS IF SOMEONE PICKS UP A STRAY AND THEY CANNOT HOLD IT, THEY CANNOT BRING IT BACK TO THEIR APARTMENT.
SO THEY'RE A STUDENT OR THEY, UM, DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY A PET PET DEPOSIT IN AN APARTMENT OR A CONDO.
UM, THEY, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING THEY CALL THREE, ONE, ONE, UH, WERE TOLD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS, BUT WE'RE TOLD THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD BY THREE, ONE, ONE THAT IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL DAYS FOR SOMEONE TO COME OUT OR THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND THEN THEY DON'T COME OUT.
UM, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
AND I WAS JUST HOPING YOU GUYS COULD TALK ABOUT THAT IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE THESE INSTANCES THAT ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS WHERE SOMEONE SAYS, I LITERALLY CANNOT TAKE IT HOME.
I CANNOT BRING IT BACK TO MY APARTMENT.
I'M SITTING IN A PARKING LOT WITH A FOUND ANIMAL.
UM, WHAT IS HAPPENING TO SOLVE THAT KIND OF NARROW WHAT I THINK WE ALL ALL AGREE.
AND I'M ASSUMING YOU GUYS DO TO THAT NARROW PROBLEM.
UM, THE VERBIAGE OF TAKING UP TO 72 HOURS FOR PICKUP HAS BEEN WITH ALL THREE, ONE, ONE RESPONSE FOR YEARS, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR STANDARD RESPONSE.
UM, BUT GENERALLY WE PICK UP ALL SPRAYS WITHIN THE FIRST DAY OR TWO, IF THEY'RE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY SOMEWHERE AND THEY NEED TO, THAT DOG IS NOT A SAFE PLACE.
WE JUST GO, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH EACH THREE ANIMAL CALL THAT COMES IN, YOU KNOW, WE PRIORITIZE IT BASED ON WHATEVER WE ALL THROW IN ONE'S VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE NOT LEAVING PEOPLE SIT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH A DOG FOR BREEDING, LIKE THE TIME, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE AGAIN, WE PRIORITIZE ALL THE CALLS AND THAT'S
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THE, THE BETTER INFORMATION WE GET FROM THREE AND ONE, THE VETERAN INFORMATION THEY GIVE THROUGH ONE, ONE IT'S QUICKER.RYAN BRIAN, I WAS REMINDED THAT IF THERE WAS AN EMAIL BREAKDOWN OF THOSE REPORTS SUPPOSED TO BE ONLINE AS A BACKUP.
SO CAN I, CAN, I LET'S SAY SOMETHING TO THE IT GUYS REAL QUICK.
UH, WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO IS SUPPOSED TO PRESENT ON FORAY AND SHE'S TRIED SEVERAL TIMES AND CAN'T GET THROUGH ON THE PHONE LINE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO GET HER CHECKED IT, OR, UM, DOES SHE HAVE THE, I GUESS, DOES SOMEONE HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER TO THE STAFF LINE THAT THEY CAN GIVE THIS PERSON? UM, BECAUSE I AM UNABLE TO SAY THE PHONE NUMBER ON AIR CONSIDERING WE WOULD HAVE AN INFLUX OF RANDOM PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE CITY CALLING IN.
SO IF SOMEBODY COULD CHECK, IF SOMEBODY COULD GIVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
KATIE, GO AHEAD WHILE WE'RE WAITING TO CONNECT.
SO I KNOW THAT WE REFERENCED THIS EARLY ON AT THE START OF THIS MEETING, BUT THERE IS PRETTY MUCH ALL OVER THE NEWS AND KIND OF THE NEXT BIG WAVE OF CONCERN IS EVICTIONS AND PEOPLE IN AUSTIN NEEDING HELP WITH THEIR PACKS BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER BEING EVICTED OR THEY'RE MEETING SOMEWHERE TO TAKE THEIR PRICE.
THEY'RE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE.
WHAT IS THE CITY'S PLAN RIGHT NOW TO DEAL WITH INFLUX OF ANIMALS DUE TO, WELL, I GUESS WE HAVE TO CHECK.
SO ONE OF, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, WE HANDED OUT TWO SEMI-LOADS OF FOOD DURING THIS PELVIC ISSUE FROM GREATER GOOD.
I'VE GOT, UH, ONE PERSON THAT GOES AROUND EVERY DAY, COLLECTING FOOD SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK FROM VARIOUS RETAILERS, DONATIONS THAT THEY'RE GIVING US.
AND THEN AS PEOPLE CALL INTO THE PRC, WE'RE NOT SEEING AN INFLUX AS OF YET, BUT I'VE GOT HEALTHY CLEAR HERE FROM THE PRC.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP RESOURCES FOR THOSE PEOPLE, EITHER THROUGH KNOWING WHAT KIND OF HOUSING ASSISTANCE IS OUT THERE, OR SETTING THEM UP WITH PET FOOD AS NEEDED.
WE HAVE A FEW BOARDING FACILITIES THAT HAVE AGREED TO HELP US AS NEEDED BECAUSE THEIR MORNING IS ALSO VERY LOW DUE TO PELVIC NOBODY'S TRAVELING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD RESOURCES THAT WAY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT A NATIONAL, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL HOUSING CRISIS SIMILAR OR WORSE THAN 2008, NINE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER REASON WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE INTAKE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON THE HEADS OF PROCESSES.
SO WE NEED TO KEEP ALL THOSE ANIMALS OUT OF HERE THAT DON'T NEED TO BE.
AND THAT'S THE BIGGER THING THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND.
IF WE'D RATHER HAVE PEOPLE KEEP THEIR BE SUCCESSFUL, WHERE THEY ARE SO WE CAN HELP THOSE THAT ARE BRINGING EVERY FRAME NOT HELPFUL, OR THOSE RESOURCES THAT YOU MENTIONED MARK OR THE CITY'S OVERALL PLAN.
ARE THOSE WRITTEN DOWN TO SHARE WITH CONSTITUENTS? NO, NOT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, I MEAN, WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE ISSUE, BUT WE'RE JUST RIGHT NOW TRYING TO FILL THEM.
AND THIS IS GOING ON NATIONALLY.
I MEAN, EVERY, I WAS JUST ON A CALL THIS MORNING.
THIS IS A NATIONAL THING THAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
UM, ALONG WITH THAT LINE ON THAT LINE, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH.
ARE THERE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS COMMUNICATION AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE, ARE UNDER, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGE GOING ON IN SOME OF THE OLDER PROCEDURES ARE BEING CHANGED.
AND OF COURSE, SOMEWHERE ON SOME WEBSITE, SOMEWHERE IS THAT OLDER PROCEDURE.
UH, AND PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT AND THEY EXPECT THAT THAT IS NOT.
SO MY, I DON'T, MAYBE THIS TAKE A LITTLE BRAINSTORMING, BUT AS THESE PROCEDURES CHANGE AND AS NEW THINGS COME OUT, NEW OFFICE COME OUT, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE ONE PARTICULAR SITE CHANGES FOR CHANGES IN PROCEDURES CASHING.
IF WE KNEW THAT WE COULD GO THERE, WE COULD GUIDE PEOPLE WHO COME TO US WITH QUESTIONS CAUSE TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF SOME OF THESE CHANGES.
WE'RE, WE'RE UPSTATE, WE'RE UPDATING THE WEBSITE, RIGHT? AS MUCH AS WE CAN, IT'S PRETTY REGULARLY UPDATED.
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AND ANYTIME SOMEBODY DOES NOTICE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE ISN'T FITTING ANYMORE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET ON IT RIGHT AWAY.WE JUST SENT AN EMAIL THIS WEEK ABOUT SOME INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS AS DON REALLY LAID IT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THE, IT, PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH COVID STUFF.
SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ON OUR OWN, WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT IF IT REQUIRES AN ITE RESPONSE, IT'S VERY SLOW BECAUSE THERE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE IS, IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ANIMAL HEALTH.
WELL, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS COMMISSIONERS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO DO.
I KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON, ON FACEBOOK, ON NEXT DOOR, PARTICULARLY IN MY DISTRICT AND TRY AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE INFORMATION.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANT.
I'LL GET TO MY GOOD DAVID, TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE.
I DON'T HAVE A JULY REPORT IN FRONT OF ME.
SO I'M GOING OFF OF THE MOST CURRENT THAT'S UPLOADED TO BACKUP ONLINE, WHICH IS JUNE.
UM, CAN YOU DISCUSS THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN YOUR REPORTED 93, 1% LIVE OUTCOME RATE AND THE 95% MANDATE FROM COUNCIL? AND SECOND QUESTION IS I DON'T SEE A BREAKDOWN OF SPECIES BY SPECIES LIVE, ANIMAL RELEASE, A LIVE RELEASE RATE.
CAN YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT ON HAND THAT YOU COULD GIVE TO US? WELL, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THE JULY REPORT.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE TO GET AGAIN WITH IT ISSUES.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET, YOU JUST GOT JUNE THIS WEEK.
DO YOU HAVE JUNE? CAUSE THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE ONLINE ON BACKUP.
SHOULD DO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROCESSED OR PUT ON THERE IT'S IT WAS ON THE, UH, THE AGENDA WILL BE THE AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THOSE COMMISSION MEETING, ALL THE REPORTS ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT THERE, EXACT DOCUMENTS.
THE ONLY ONE WE'RE MISSING IS JULY.
CAUSE I HAVEN'T GOT THE IT TO PROCESS THE NUMBER JUST THAT WHEN WE GET TO THESE, WERE THERE ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS? AND WE HAD TO LOOK AT, UM, OF JUNE WITH JUST PRACTICE THIS WEEK AND THAT HAVE BEEN, I FOLLOWED IT ON THE WEBSITE BACKEND.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE 93, ONE AND 95 IN JUNE THEN? WELL, I KNOW THAT WE, WE EVEN HAVE SOME DISCREPANCY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO IT ON BECAUSE, UH, IN OUR AMELIA AND REPORT, IT SAYS IT'S 94.55.
AND BECAUSE WE JUST RECEIVED THIS LAST COUPLE OF DAYS AND UH, IT'S DIFFERENT.
THE NUMBERS WERE THE SAME, BUT IT'S DIFFERENT.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE'RE DOING SOME INVESTIGATING ON OUR OWN THERE.
UH, I DO, I CAN SAY THAT BETWEEN WHEN WE CLOSED ON MARCH THE 16TH THROUGH AUGUST THE SIXTH, IF YOU TAKE THAT WHOLE TIME PERIOD WHERE AT 95.3.
SO, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE 94.55 IS CORRECT.
I WOULD LOVE IF YOU GUYS, WHEN YOU FIGURE IT OUT, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT ADDED TO THE DOCUMENTATION.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF I MAY ALMER AND THEN ANDREA WEBEX, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE CHANGES ON PRIORITIZING THE CALLS FOR STRAYS AND PEOPLE THAT NEED ASSISTANCE.
AND I'M WONDERING HOW MUCH WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON FIGURING OUT WHAT PROTOCOLS AND SCREENING NEED TO BE IN PLACE IN ANTICIPATION OF OWNER'S SURRENDER INCREASES.
AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON WHAT MODEL OR HOW WE'RE GETTING READY FOR HOW TO HELP AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE MOST NEED OR CRISIS WHAT'S BEING DONE TO KIND OF TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THAT? WELL, FIRST UP, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THOSE NEEDS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS YET.
UM, AS FAR AS GETTING AHEAD OF IT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET INFORMATION OUT.
UH, THIS WEEK AND LAST WEEK WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO PLACES LIKE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES, UH, LARGE APARTMENT, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND STUFF SO THAT THEY CAN TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.
AND THE PRICES BEFORE THE LAST RESORT IS WAITING TO CALL US THE DAY THEY'RE GETTING EVICTED.
WE KNOW WHAT THE EVICTIONS THAT OWNERS QUITE OFTEN WAIT FOR THE LAST DAY TO GET RID OF THEIR PETS BECAUSE THEY'RE HOPING SOME, SOMEBODY WILL COME THROUGH TO HELP THEM.
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SO WE NEED TO GET THEM THINKING ABOUT IT WHEN THEY START BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN CRISIS MODE.IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GETTING A 30 DAY EVICTION NOTICE, WE'D LIKE FOR THEM TO BE GIVEN INFORMATION ABOUT EITHER PET REHOMING OR CABARET PET SERVICES, THEN RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THE DAY THEY HAVE TO BE OUT.
SO THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST GAP FOR US IS TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ARE IN CRISIS WHEN WE KNOW THEY'RE IN CRISIS, IT'S TOO LATE.
WELL, AND, AND I GUESS THANK YOU.
AND MY QUESTION WAS KIND OF MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE, UM, RESOURCE CENTER AND THEN WHAT'S BEING DONE FOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU HAVE A WHITE LIFT ARE, YOU'VE HAD A WAIT LIST ON PEOPLE, SURRENDERING THEIR ANIMALS FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO HELP IDENTIFY THOSE THAT MOST NEED OR WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE.
I THINK I'M THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF INTERNALLY.
KELSEY IS RIGHT BEHIND ME WITH THE PRC AND THEY THREE HOURS, ALL THE CALLS COMING IN FOR SURRENDER TO SEE WHO NEEDS HELP REAL QUICK.
I WANT TO INTERRUPT CITY HALL.
JEFFRESS HAS BEEN TRYING TO CALL IN ON THE PRESENTERS LINE AND IT'S NOT WORKING.
SO SHE'S GOING TO TRY IT, THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS LINE.
SO YOU CAN EXPECT HER ON THAT ONE.
ANYWAY, AS I WAS SAYING, AS, AS PEOPLE ARE CALLING TO MAKE THESE APPOINTMENTS, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANYWHERE WE CAN HELP THEM BEFORE THEY COME HERE.
AND AGAIN, AS THIS, IF THIS CRISIS BLOOMS INTO WHAT THEY THINK IT COULD BE, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S GOING TO BE READY FOR IT.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WHAT WE CAN RIGHT NOW TO MITIGATE INTAKE.
I DON'T WANT TO JUST DEFER THE INTAKE I WANT TO MITIGATE.
HI, MR. BLAND ON APRIL 13TH TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COMMISSION, MENTIONING AN 18% RETURN TO OWNER RATE, UH, FROM THE SHELTER AND A 50% ART FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND YOU CONCLUDED THAT YOU CONCLUDED THE QUOTE CITIZENS HAVE A HIGHER SUCCESS RATE BY KEEPING PETS IN THE AREA WHERE THEY WERE FOUND.
AND IN OUR LAST MEETING, UM, WELL, MANY CITIZENS COMMENTED THAT THIS DATA ANALYSIS IS SKEWED.
UH, FOUR PEOPLE COMMENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
THE ORANGE DOT CREW HAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT.
WE'VE RECEIVED LETTERS IN OUR INBOX ABOUT IT AS WELL.
CITIZENS HAVE NOTED THAT THE 50% AND 18% FIGURES ARE NOT COMPARABLE.
THE SOURCE FOR THE 50% FIGURE IS SURVEY DATA FROM A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE.
AND THE 18% FIGURE COMES FROM RAW NUMERICAL DATA FROM ACTUAL AAC INTAKE AND RETURN NUMBERS.
IT WAS NOTED THAT WITHOUT EXPLAINING HOW THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED, IT'S MISLEADING TO COMPARE THESE TWO PIECES OF DATA.
AND IF THE SURVEY WAS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOTAL POPULATION, HE USES AAC, THEN THE COMPUTER CENTER VALIDATED, I THINK CITIZEN CONCERNS ABOUT THE DATA HAVE MERIT, UM, AND SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
AND IN LIGHT OF THAT, UM, WOULD YOU CONSIDER, POSSIBLY REVISING YOUR ANALYSIS OF THIS DATA? WELL, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO CAPTURE DATA.
THAT WAS THE DATA THAT WE HAD CAPTURED PRIOR TO THE COVEN CLOSURE.
THAT WAS THE NUMBER OF SURVEYS WE SENT OUT AND WE HAD RESPONSES BACK FROM, SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE SENT OUT A HUNDRED SURVEYS AND 50 PEOPLE WERE SUCCESSFUL.
THAT'S WHERE THAT DATA CAME FROM.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO CAPTURE THAT DATA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE CURRENTLY, IF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTER ON THE LINE WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR THEM, WE'LL PATCH THEM THROUGH.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO CAPTURE THE DATA FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WILL ANSWER THE SURVEY.
DO YOU HOPE YOU'LL AT LEAST CONSIDER, UM, A REVISION OF THE, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS OF THE DATA? BECAUSE I DO, I DO THINK THAT THE CONCERNS HAVE MERIT, THAT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DATA.
ANYONE ELSE? JOANNE THEN RYAN.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ALL ARE DOING.
I KNOW IT'S UM, IF SOMEONE WHO'S ON SITE THERE, I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS WITH ALL THE ANIMALS.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME, BUT, UM, I KNOW VOLUNTEERS PLAY A BIG ROLE IN TRYING TO KEEP THE DOGS SANE AND OUT AND GIVE THEM BREAKS.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ADDING THE EXTRA PEOPLE.
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OF, UM, BEING ABLE TO ADD ANY EXTRA VOLUNTEERS TO HELP WITH THE DOGS? UM, IS THERE EVENINGS OR WEEKENDS? WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THAT EVERY WEEK AT OUR STAFF MEETINGS, UH, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE TO RELY ON THE STAFF THAT'S OUT THERE, GIVE US FEEDBACK.SO AS AN I'M A BIG LAST WEEK, WE ADDED ANOTHER POSITION.
SO AS THE STAFF FINDS OUT WAYS THAT THEY CAN INCORPORATE VOLUNTEERS BACK IN AND WE CAN DO IT SAFELY WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY IS THE WHOLE AIR ON EVERYTHING, WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT.
SO YES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADD PEOPLE AS WE HAVE PLACES AND WE CAN DO IT SAFELY.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UM, THE, THE JUNE MONTHLY REPORT IS IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S WEBSITE.
UM, IT WAS NOT ATTACHED TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS, BUT IT IS ON, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN WEBSITE.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL THAT UP.
UM, SECOND WITH RESPECT TO EVICTIONS.
I ALSO WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT SOME EVICTION DATA FROM HOUSTON AND, UH, SOMETHING LIKE 15 TO 20% OF THE EVICTIONS ARE BEING DONE ILLEGALLY, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THIS ONE REPORT, WHICH MEANS THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING NOTICE OF A 30 DAY WINDOW.
THEY'RE JUST BEING PUT ON THE STREETS.
SO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING TO PLAN FOR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UH, THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CALL, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND START CLEANING WITH 30 DAYS NOTICE THEY MIGHT JUST GET THROWN OUT.
UM, AND, UH, I'VE SEEN EVICTIONS, UH, THEY'RE AWFUL.
UM, WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE WITH THEIR RETURN TO THEIR HOME AFTER WORK ONE DAY AND, UM, IN FRONT OF THEIR APARTMENT IS A GIANT PILE OF EVERYTHING THEY OWN THAT HAS BEEN LEFT OUT, UH, IN FRONT OF THEIR APARTMENT OR IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME OR IN FRONT OF THEIR CONDO.
UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A DOG WAS TIED TO THEIR STUFF, UH, LEFT OUT ON THE CURB, OR I JUST, IT'S HEARTBREAKING TO THINK ABOUT THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
UM, AND, AND THEN, UH, THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, CAUSE WE WERE STILL GETTING A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT IT.
IS THAT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M SURE THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT I WANTED TO CONFIRM WITH STAFF THAT AT THIS POINT, NO ONE EITHER AT THE SHELTER OR THREE, ONE, ONE IS ADVISING PEOPLE TO RELEASE ANIMALS.
UH, YES, WE ARE NOT ADVISING PEOPLE TO RELEASE ANIMALS.
I ACTUALLY HAD A CALL WITH THE DIRECTOR OF FREE ONE YESTERDAY AND THEY HAVE SOFTWARE THAT THEY CAN PUT IN PHRASES AND WORDS AND MAKING SCRUB THEIR DATA.
AND SHE DID THAT AND SHE SAID, I NEED A SPECIFIC EXAMPLES BECAUSE I HAVE FOUND NO ONE AT
AND SHE SAID, AND I ACTUALLY GOT A CALL FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR INTERVIEW WHO OVERSEES THREE, ONE, ONE.
AND HE TELLS ME THE EXACT SAME THING.
SO THEY'RE NOT FINDING THAT IN THEIR DATA, THEIR VOICE RECORDINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING THEM.
YEAH, WELL MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO WHEN WE GET THESE COMPLAINTS AND SAY, CAN YOU GIVE US A TIME? YOU KNOW, CAN YOU GIVE US A NAME AND A TIME, YOUR PHONE NUMBER OR SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND GO THROUGH YOU GUYS AND SEE IF, IF THAT CONVERSATION OCCURRED AS IT'S BEING RECORDED.
I KNOW EVERYBODY'S MEMORY IS DIFFERENT MINE MEMORY'S OFF AND WRONG.
UM, SO IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE IF WE CAN START FOLLOWING UP WITH THOSE FOLKS.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, STAFF.
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SO LET ME ASK ABOUT NUMBER THREE, OLD BUSINESS.UH, JOANNE, I THINK YOU HAVE AN UPDATE, CORRECT? ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT'S OKAY.
I HAD ASKED AC A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO RELOOK AT EVERYTHING SINCE IT'S BEEN AWHILE.
AND I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE UNTIL YESTERDAY, WHICH IS FINE, BUT THAT DIDN'T GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK TO THE WORK GROUP AND POST WITH ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT, UM, NEXT MONTH, IF THE NEXT MEETING, OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER WORK GROUPS THAT HAVE ANY REPORTS AT THIS TIME? CAUSE IF NOT, I'D LIKE SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE OLD BUSINESS UNTIL NEXT MORNING, MOTION TO TABLE ALL BUSINESS.
I SAID, HI, SECOND MOTION BY RYAN.
ANY IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND OPPOSED.
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ON FROM OLD BUSINESS, TAKES US TO NEW BUSINESS[a. Update, Discussion, Update and Possible Action on Human Animal Support Services (HASS) Strategies for Providing Support Services to Community Members]
DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON HUMAN ANIMAL'S SUPPORT SERVICES, STRATEGIES FOR PROVIDING SUPPORT SERVICES TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.I WANTED SOMEONE TO COME AND PRESENT TO US FROM EITHER, EITHER THE APA.
SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE ELLEN JEFFERSON ON THE LINE AND BECAUSE WHAT I USUALLY DO IS ALLOW SIX MINUTES FOR PRISONERS.
SO IF THAT'S OKAY, THEN ELLEN, IF YOU'RE ON, GO AHEAD.
WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER.
PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.
IF YOU'RE THE MEETING ORGANIZER, PRESS STAR.
NOW PLEASE WAIT FOR THE LEADER TO ADMIT YOU.
YOU ARE NOW JOINING THE MEETING.
YOU'VE BEEN MUTED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, PRESS STAR SIX LEUKEMIA.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? ELLEN? CAN YOU HEAR US AT ALL? OKAY.
THE CITIZEN LINE, YOU CAN HEAR ME.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO START TALKING.
UM, I AM ELLEN JEFFERSON DIRECTOR OF AUSTIN TESTS ALIVE, AND, UM, I'M GOING TO FLY THROUGH THE SLIDES THAT I SENT US BACK UP.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THEM UP OR NOT BECAUSE THE VIDEO IS NOT WORKING ON THE WEBSITE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO YELL OUT THE SLIDE NUMBER AND TALK AS I'M GOING.
UM, SO SLIDE NUMBER TWO IN MARCH, SHELTER'S EMPTIED OUT IN A, IN A EFFORT TO TRY TO PREVENT COVID FROM SPREADING TO PEOPLE.
AND WHAT CAME OF THAT IS THAT, UH, SO MANY MORE FOSTERS CAME FORWARD ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT THERE WAS REALLY THIS OPINIONY, THAT THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANT TO HELP.
AND, UM, AND SO SLIDE NUMBER THREE.
IN FACT, EVEN OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND AFTER THE COVID PUSH A FOSTERS OUT TO FOSTER HOMES, UM, THERE'S BEEN 80,000 MORE PEOPLE SIGNING UP AND ONLY 30,000 OF THOSE HOMES GOT USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE NATIONAL ORG COLLECTING FOSTER NAMES ASIDE.
NUMBER FOUR, BECAUSE OF THAT, THE SHELTER INDUSTRY HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT SHELTERING IN GENERAL, ESPECIALLY THE HISTORY SIDE, NUMBER FIVE AND AUSTIN, THE SHELTER WAS CREATED BECAUSE OF A PANDEMIC RABIES.
AND, UM, BACK THEN POLICE WOULD SHOOT DOGS ON SITE AND PEOPLE GOT MAD.
THIS WAS THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS, 1900.
SO THE SHELTER WAS ACTUALLY CREATED TO HOUSE DOGS FOR THREE DAYS AND THEN SHOOT THEM TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING THAT THE ANIMALS THAT GOT OUT ONLY GOT OUT BECAUSE THEIR OWNERS COULD AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEM FOR THEIR LICENSE.
AND THEY W THEY HAD ACCESSIBILITY TO THE SHELTER.
UM, SIDE NUMBER SEVEN, OUR HISTORY IS ALL AROUND US.
EVEN NOW THE SHELTER IS AN INSTITUTION, INSTITUTIONS LIKE THIS AND OTHER SECTORS HAVE BEEN ERADICATED DUE TO WELFARE CONCERNS, SIDE NUMBER EIGHT, AND OFTEN THOSE CONCERNS GO BACK 80 PLUS YEARS, FIVE NUMBER NINE, AS LATE AS THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES POLICE STILL RAN ANIMAL CONTROL.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT AREAS WITH COVID OUTBREAKS IN AUSTIN CLOSELY RESEMBLED THE AREAS OF VERY HIGH INTAKE SIDE, NUMBER 11.
IN ADDITION, WE KNOW THAT MILLIONS HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS AND MILLIONS MORE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS.
NUMBER 12, WE KNOW THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE MASSIVE EVICTIONS HAPPENING SOON.
AND, UM, ONCE THEY START, ACTUALLY SOME OF THEM STARTED ONCE THEY START, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTINUE FOR MONTHS, MAYBE HERE SLIDE NUMBER 13.
THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE LACK OF FINANCIAL ABILITY TO PAY MEDICAL BILLS ON ANIMALS, HOUSING AND FINANCE FINANCIAL REASONS IN GENERAL
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ARE THE TOP THREE REASONS THAT ANIMALS ARE SURRENDERED TO SHELTERS.BY NUMBER 14, AS A RESULT OF ALL THOSE PREVIOUS SLIDES, THE INDUSTRY IS REALIZING IT HAS TO CHANGE SLIDE NUMBER 15, THAT IS BIRD, THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES, PROJECT SLIDE, NUMBER 16.
IT WAS CREATED FOR THREE REASONS, ONE TO PREVENT GATHERINGS AND PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID PEOPLE.
AND SO BY PREVENTING, UH, GATHERINGS OF ANIMALS, UH, NUMBER TWO IS TO, UM, PREPARE FOR MASS INCREASE IN, UM, AN ANIMAL NEEDS BY CREATING PROGRAMS THAT ARE SCALABLE.
AND, AND THE THIRD REASON IS THAT THERE'S A FOUNDATION OF INEQUITY IN SHELTERING THAT NEEDS TO BE UNDONE SLIDE NUMBER 17.
YEAH, WELL, FOUNDATIONALLY TRANSFORM ANIMAL SHELTERING INTO THE COMMUNITY BASED SUPPORT AND SERVICES THAT VALUE ALL HUMANS, ALL ANIMALS AND THEIR BOND SLIDE.
THE MISSION OF HAAS IS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER FROM ALL OVER ALL SECTORS IN THE INDUSTRY, COLLABORATE AND BUILD THE MODEL TOGETHER, PILOT IT AND PROMINENT CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, EVALUATE SUCCESS AND ITERATE THE PROCESS.
MORE WIDELY SLIDE NUMBER 19, THE PROJECT WILL WORK BY BRINGING 18 TIER ONE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER WHO HAVE ALL AGREED TO BUILD AND PILOT THE HAAS PROGRAM TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
ANOTHER 20 TIER TWO COMMUNITIES WILL FOLLOW THE LEAD OF TIER ONE.
WE HAVE OVER 200 INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING SOME VERY PROMINENT INDUSTRY EXPERTS WORKING ON 35 WORKING GROUPS TO SOLVE LONG STANDING INDUSTRY PROBLEMS THAT PREVENT PROGRESS.
AND WE WILL BUILD OUT AT LEAST FIVE PROGRAMS THAT WILL HELP TO DRIVE THE MOVEMENT.
ONE IS REHOMING WITHOUT THE USE OF A SHELTER, KENNEL LOST AND FOUND SERVICES WITHOUT USING THE SHELTER KENNEL, KEEPING PETS WITH FAMILY BY PROVIDING MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL SUPPORT FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KEEP THEIR ANIMAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
RE-IMAGINED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DROPPING THE BALL ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND INTAKE TO PLACEMENT ASAP TO THE ANIMALS THAT DO NEED TO ENTER THE SHELTER, WHICH WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE ANIMALS THAT DO MAKING SURE THEY HAVE AN EXIT ROUTE PLANNED IMMEDIATELY SLIDE NUMBER 20, THE LIST.
THIS IS THE LIST OF CITIES THAT ARE PILOT, UM, PILOT COMMUNITIES, TIER ONE, AND TIER TWO.
THERE ARE, I SHOULD SAY, THOSE ARE ALL MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FUNDED FACILITIES, SIDE NUMBER 21.
THERE ARE 35 WORKING GROUPS TO OVERCOME THE INDUSTRY OBSTACLES, AND YOU CAN SEE IT.
IT'S A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR WE'RE BUILDING THE MOVEMENT AND THE MODEL AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS AN IMMENSE, UM, UH, AN IMMENSE CHANGE AND AN IMMENSE OPPORTUNITY.
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING IT RIGHT.
UH, THE SLIDE NUMBER 23 IS A, UH, SCHEMATIC THAT SHOWS KIND OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN EVERY, EVERY CITY IN AMERICA.
BUT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT AUSTIN THAT, UM, THERE'S A CENTRAL PLACE WHERE MOST OF THE ACTIVITY THAT OCCURS IN ANIMAL SERVICES OCCURS AND PEOPLE HAVE TO ACCESS THAT PLACE EITHER BY THE TELEPHONE OR COMING IN.
AND A LOT OF THE WORK IS DONE IN PERSON.
THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL PROGRAMMING, UM, THE OFFICERS.
AND, UM, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THE CARE AND SERVICES OCCUR IN THE SHELTER, IN THE NEW SYSTEM.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHICH IS SLIDE NUMBER 24, WE'RE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY CREATING A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONTACT THE SHELTER AND WORKED THROUGH SOMEONE TO HELP THEM TRIAGE THEIR PROBLEM.
AND, UM, AND THEN ACCESS SERVICES THAT WILL BE BUILT WITH THE HAAS PROGRAMMING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT WHATEVER THE NEED IS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT MIGHT BE BOARDING AN ANIMAL AS AN OWNER, GOES TO REHAB, ET CETERA.
I'M JUST GOING TO READ THESE REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS.
UM, HAAS IS NOT LEAVING ANIMALS ON THE STREET TO DIE.
HAAS IS NOT FORCING PEOPLE TO BE PART OF THE NETWORK OF SUPPORT COSTS IS NOT PREVENTING ANIMALS FROM ENTERING THE SHELTER WHO REALLY NEED TO BE THERE.
HAAS IS NOT A SUDDEN BEGINNING.
HAAS IS PROVIDING CAS CASE MANAGEMENT TO FIND THE RIGHT PATHWAY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL ANIMAL AND PERSON HAAS IS CREATING A NETWORK OF COMMUNITY FOSTERS WHO ARE ABLE TO ACCESS ANIMALS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN THE SHELTER.
KENNEL COST IS SHELTERING ANIMALS WHO HAVE NO OTHER LEGITIMATE OPTIONS.
AND HAAS IS A TRANSITION OF PROGRAMS ARE BUILT ANIMALS AND PEOPLE USE THOSE PROGRAMS NOT BEFORE.
AND SIDE NUMBER 26 JUST SHOWS THAT THIS IS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS AND FIND NUMBER 27, UM, IS, UH, JUST TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THIS, THERE IS A LOT OF, UM, CONCERN AROUND INTAKE AND THE HOSPITAL ACTUALLY SOLVES FOR THAT INTAKE BY KEEPING PETS SAFE, BOTH IN AND OUT OF THE SHELTER, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 28, WHY AUSTIN IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVE NO OTHER PLAN TO HANDLE THE IMPENDING DOOM AS I LIKE TO CALL IT SLIDE NUMBER 29.
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WE REALLY CAN'T WAIT.THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES BEING LOST EVERY DAY BY AUSTIN, NOT BEING PART OF THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITY AND SHELTER DIRECTORS THAT ARE ALL MAKING TREMENDOUS CHANGE FOR THE POSITIVE SIDE.
NUMBER 30, WE ARE ASKING, WERE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND A COUNCIL, TO PASS A RESOLUTION, TO ALIGN ANIMAL SERVICES OPERATIONS IN AUSTIN, WITH HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES AND JOIN THE HOC PROJECT.
AND I DON'T THINK I CAN ACTUALLY HEAR ANYBODY OR ANYTHING.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WELL, OBVIOUSLY SHE CAN'T TAKE IT ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANY MOTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS, QUICK CONCERNS TO EXPRESS.
I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MONTH.
I JUST, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU FOLKS HEAR ME? YES.
UM, I JUST HAVE A FEW CONCERNS TO EXPRESS RIGHT NOW.
PEOPLE HAVE A LOT MORE FREE TIME TO FOSTER.
UH, DURING THIS PANDEMIC, IT'S A UNIQUE TEMPORARY SITUATION.
UM, AND WE JUST REALLY CAN'T ASSUME THAT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE AS MUCH FREE TIME AFTER COVID-19 OR THAT 50 TO 90% OF ANIMALS WILL GO TO FOSTER.
IN FACT, UM, ACCORDING TO A RECENT BEST FRIEND'S TOWN HALL VIDEO DISCUSSING THEIR 2019 DATASET QUOTE, DESPITE THE SHARP INCREASE OF PETS AND FOSTER CARE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRISIS, CAT FOSTER STARTS WHERE WE'RE LOWER THROUGHOUT APRIL AND MAY THAN IN 2013.
AND THEN IN 2019, SORRY, AND DOG FOSTER STARTS RETURNED TO 2019 LEVELS BY THE END OF APRIL UNQUOTE.
THIS SHOWS THAT THE FOSTER RUSH AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID-19 HAS LEVELED OFF.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S PROBLEMATIC TO CREATE A POTENTIALLY PERMANENT SHELTER MODEL BASED ON A TEMPORARY SITUATION.
UH, I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT ONE, UH, BOTH EAST SIDE UNDERSERVED, UH, COMMUNITIES, THREE 11 DATA SHOWS THAT MOST LOOSE DOGS COME FROM, UH, DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE PREDOMINANTLY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
I DON'T SEE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES IN PLACE FOR THE HAAS MODEL TO DEAL WITH THIS UNDERSERVED EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITIES DO NOT HAVE WIFI ACCESS AS MUCH AS MORE PRIVILEGED ONES DO.
SO THERE'S A LACK OF TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE CREATING A DIGITAL DIVIDE.
UM, IN FACT, AISD RECENTLY REALIZED THAT MANY EAST SIDE KIDS COULDN'T DO THEIR SCHOOLWORK ONLINE DUE TO LACK OF WIFI.
SO THEY PARKED SCHOOL BUSES AS INTERNET HOTSPOTS TO HELP THE MAP OF THE WIFI BUSES ALIGNS WITH THE THREE 11 LOOSE DOG CALLS AND THE BROADBAND DIVIDE EXTENDS WAY PAST AUSTIN.
CBS NEWS RECENTLY REPORTED THAT NEARLY HALF OF AMERICANS EITHER HAVE VERY SLOW INTERNET OR NONE AT ALL.
UM, LAST POINT ALSO THE CITY ANTICIPATES A VERY TIGHT BUDGET FOR YEARS TO COME.
SO WHO IS GOING TO FEEL THE NEEDS OF THE 14,000 STRAYS THAT CAME IN LAST YEAR WHEN EACH IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A HAAS COUNSELOR? MANY OF MY EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORS THINK THAT HAAS IS UNFEASIBLE AND WILL ULTIMATELY PUT THE BURDEN ON THEM.
AND I, AND I SHARE THAT CONCERN.
DIANA, JUST GIVE ME A SECOND, UH, UH, CITY GUYS.
DO WE HAVE ANY EXTRA TIME SINCE, UH, WE GOT TO REBOOT A COUPLE OF TIMES KIND OF LIKE A SOCCER INJURY TIME? YEAH.
I'D SAY, I'D SAY WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UM, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF RIGHT AT FIVE THOUGH, IF WE GO TO THAT POINT.
HOPEFULLY WE WON'T GO AHEAD, JOANNA.
JEFFERSON KS ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL, UM, UM, MR. BLAND, UH, YOU CAN ANSWER WHAT YOU CAN.
UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HAAS I'M FIVE, WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND I DID, BUT THE CITY'S DOING TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX THAT, UH, MARK SLO DID.
AND I KNOW WHAT BRENDAN DOES, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, ONE AND A HANDOUT THAT DR.
JEFFERSON SENT US, UM, FOR THE LAST MEETING, UM, UH, PART OF HAAS IS THIS COMMUNITY VET SERVICE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CALL IN AND GET TELEMEDICINE.
AND I LOOKED AT THE SIDE OF THE TEXAS VETERINARY BOARD AND THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES.
UM, THEIR RULES ARE REAL SPECIFIC THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW A PET IN ORDER TO DO TELEMEDICINE WITH A PET.
SO, UM, IS MR. BLAND, IS THERE, UH, A SHELTER RULE THAT SAYS
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WE DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TEXT BACKWARD? NO.IN OUR HEAD VET IS HERE AND SHE CAN TEST IT THAT THEY CAN'T WORK ON OWN ANIMALS FROM THIS IN TERMS OF THEY CAN'T WORK ON ANIMALS THAT AREN'T HERE IN THE SHELTER THAT BELONGED TO US.
SO SHE, SOMEONE OFF THE STREET JUST COULDN'T BRING IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL ANIMAL AND SHE COULD TREAT IT.
AND WHAT THE BAD BOARDS POSTING SO THAT, UM, DOESN'T WORK IN TEXAS.
UM, THE IDEA OF THAT HOTLINE CONCERNS ME BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A DELAY NOW IN TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE AND TO TRY TO MAKE FOSTER APPOINTMENTS AND TRY TO MAKE ADOPTION APPOINTMENTS JUST BECAUSE OF STAFFING AND BECAUSE OF THE RECORDS THAT NEED TO BE KEPT BY THE CITY.
UM, SO WHAT TYPE OF, IS THIS EVEN DOABLE FOR YOU OR WHAT TYPE OF, UM, BURDEN WOULD THAT PUT ON THE CITY TO HAVE TO, UM, PROVIDE, UM, INSTANT CHATS AND INSTANT, UH, UH, RESPONSE TO PEOPLE IT'S IN THE DOCUMENTS AND IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
EVEN SHIFTING SOME STAFFING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH, UH, PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY EMAILS AND CALLS WE GET EVERY DAY CURRENTLY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE, SOMEONE WILL EMAIL US AND THEN THEY'LL DO THREE OR FOUR FOLLOWUP EMAILS THAT JUST COMPOUND THE SITUATION.
SO, UM, IN THE UNKNOWN, YEAH, WE DEFINITELY, I MEAN, IF WE WERE TO SEE A PROPOSAL, WE'D HAVE TO DO SORT OF AN ASSESSMENT JUST TO FULFILL A, UM, WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT MIGHT BE.
UM, AND, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR OUR CASE MANAGERS LIVE CHATS HOTLINES.
UM, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF, UM, DISEASES, RABIES DISTEMPER.
IF WE GO TO A MODEL WHERE SOMEONE FINDS THE ANIMAL, AND THEN THEY'RE TOLD, WELL, HERE, YOU CAN JUST HANG ONTO THE ANIMAL.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO, UM, CAUSE YOU'RE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU TO GET THE ANIMAL ADOPTED.
WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THOSE ANIMALS HAVE, UM, VACCINATIONS AND OUR SPAY AND NEUTER.
IT'S PROBABLY QUESTIONS WE CAN'T ASK HIM.
THOSE WOULD BE THE HARDEST QUESTIONS THAT I COULDN'T ANSWER.
AND THERE'S NO ONE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
UM, LET ME TRY TO GO THROUGH THE ONES THAT AREN'T SPECIFIC TO US SINCE I CAN'T ASK THEM.
SO CAN YOU SUM UP THE REASON WHY THE CITY HAS DECLINED BEING IN THE PILOT AND IT'S NOT JUST YOU, BUT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER SHORTER HAS DECLINED.
UM, THE MAYOR WAS CONTACTED IT STILL HASN'T.
UM, CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD ONE AND PARTICIPATE IN HOSPITAL, WHY YOU'RE RELUCTANT TO BE PART OF THE PILOT? OKAY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS, I GUESS, THEIR, THEIR MODEL IS THEY EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY BEFORE THEY MAKE ANY MAJOR CHANGES.
AND THEY THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WOULD WANT TO DO.
THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE ENERGY INPUT.
THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TALKS WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND, AND LET THEM BE A PART OF THE SITUATION AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THEM IN THE MIX, UH, AND, AND GET DATA ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, DR.
JEFFERSON MENTIONED ON ONE OF HER SLIDES ON THE ONE THAT SAID HOW WE GET THERE, YOU TALKED ABOUT REHOMING WITHOUT USING THE SHELTER AND LOST AND FOUND PETS WITHOUT USING THE SHELTER.
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WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR SHIT, AS WE WERE TELLING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FIND A PET OF KNOCK ON THE DOORS AND REHOME, AND, UH, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT, KEEP IT, UH, IT, AND, YOU KNOW, LOST SOME FOUND, HELPING GET HOME, UH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT WE WERE GETTING BLASTED FAR, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING IT THAT WAY.YOU SAW THE UPRISING AND THE SWELL FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN WE JUST IMPLEMENTED TWO OF THESE THINGS AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
AND SO, AND MOST OF IT WAS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY INPUT.
SO GETTING THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE INPUT AND HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND BUY IN IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY FEELS VERY STRONGLY, THAT IT NEEDS TO GO MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE SAW THE REPERCUSSIONS WHEN WE STARTED SOME OF THIS WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO SHUT THE SHELTER DOWN FOR HUMAN FACTORS, INSIGHT.
AND I KNOW FROM THE MESS, THE, UM, EMAILS WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM CITIZENS AND THE PHONE CALLS, THEY'RE VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT INTAKE.
AND I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.
AND, UM, I NOTICED, UH, I CHECKED AGAIN TODAY AND I'LL PASS OUT.
WHO'S ONE OF THE HOTTEST PILOTS IS STILL NOT TAKING IN.
THERE'S A, THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY IF YOU'RE IN ANIMALS INJURED OR NOT GO CARE, OR THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUE YOU CAN CALL, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE DOING HELPING ANIMALS.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE THAT MOMENTUM SINCE I KNOW YOU'RE TAKING SOME, CAUSE I KNOW THE SHELTER IS FILLING UP MORE, UM, THAN IT WAS.
UM, SO, UM, BACK TO THE LEGAL ISSUE, I KNOW IN TEXAS, THE PROPERTY LAWS ARE KIND OF, WITH ANIMALS ARE KIND OF MURKY.
AND AS THE IMPOUNDING AUTHORITY, IF AN ANIMAL COMES THROUGH THE SHELTER IT'S POSTED, UM, THEN YOU CAN LEGALLY ADOPT IT OUT.
BUT IF SOMEONE JUST FINDS AN ANIMAL AND POSTS ON NEXT DOOR POSTS ON CRAIGSLIST, THEY DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
DOES THAT COUNT TOWARD THAT? AND THEY CAN LEGALLY GIVE THEN ADOPT OUT THAT ANIMAL OR CAN SOMEONE LATER ON COME BACK AND CLAIM THAT THAT WAS THEIR ANIMAL AND THEY SHOULD GET IT BACK, UH, IN TEXAS.
AND THERE WAS A CASE OUT OF HOUSTON THAT IF, IF THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT ANIMAL BACK, IF THE OWNER CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU'D HAVE MY ANIMAL, ESSENTIALLY, THE WAY THE FINDINGS OF THAT CASE WOULD ALLEVIATE, THEY FOUND THAT THE COURT FOUND THAT AN OWNER DOESN'T ACTUALLY RELINQUISH ITS RIGHT COMPLETELY ALTOGETHER ON AN ANIMAL.
IF IT ENDS UP GOING AS LOST OR STRAIGHT, I THINK WITHOUT THAT FORMAL DOCUMENTATION OF AN INFANT OR OWNER TO RENDER IT.
UM, YEAH, I OF COURSE PROVEN, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER DOESN'T TECHNICALLY RELINQUISH ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE WRITER.
AND I KNOW THERE WERE KIND OF LEGAL QUESTION.
IF YOU GET A FOSTER FOR A DOG AND FOSTER FOLLOWS ALL THE RULES, LIKE SOMETHING HAPPENS, SAY THE DOG GETS LOOSENED, THE DOG BITES SOMEBODY UNEXPECTEDLY.
I THINK THAT SHELTER WILL COVER THE COST FOR THAT.
BUT IF SOMEONE IS TOLD, WELL JUST HANG ON TO THE DOG AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO REHOME IT.
AND THE DOG SAY BITE SOMEBODY WHO'S LIABLE FOR THAT.
I WOULDN'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD ASSUME YOU'RE OKAY.
BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE CITY, THE CITY WOULDN'T SAY, OH, WELL WE DIDN'T FACE IT.
WOULD YOU, I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU YIELD AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU IF WE HAVE TIME.
SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN GO, WELL, I COULD, I GUESS MY CONCERN WITH QUESTIONS AND I, I, I ASSUME DR.
JEFFERSON AND BEYOND IS THAT, UM, IF WE MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS TO DO THIS DOCUMENT, I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY MAKING A MOTION SAYING WE WANT TO HAVE COUNCIL OVERRIDE THE CITY'S DECISION.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST HAVE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
SO I'M TRYING TO LIMIT WHAT I CAN, BUT THANK YOU.
WHO, WHO HAD THEIR HAND UP NEXT? WAS IT NANCY? WAS IT YOU OR A RYAN? RYAN, GO AHEAD.
UM, I, I'M NOT READY TO TALK YOU AND I WANTED TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY, BUT I DID WANT TO JUST ANSWER A COUPLE OF THE LEGAL QUESTIONS.
CAUSE I THINK THEY MATTER, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, TELEMEDICINE AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, COULD HAD VETERINARY PRACTICE, UM, COULD VETERINARY, UH, SKILLS BE PRACTICED OVER TELEMEDICINE AND, UM, THE OCCUPATIONS CODE CONSENT
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CONTAINS THE VETERINARY PRACTICE PRACTICE ACT.UM, AND TELEMEDICINE IT'S TRUE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT ALLOWED WITHOUT, UH, AN EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OWNER.
HOWEVER, THE VETERINARY PRACTICE ACT RIGHT ON TOP THAT ONE OF THE VERY FIRST, FIRST PROVISIONS ON TOP SAYS IT DOES NOT APPLY, UH, TO, UH, THE OWNER OF AN ANIMAL FOR THE DESIGNATED CARETAKER.
SO I DO THINK THERE'S SOME LEGAL ISSUES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RESOLVED THAT I DON'T THINK ARE RESOLVED SIMPLY IN THE GENERAL, UM, INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED, BUT THAT THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT IT COULDN'T BE, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN RESOLVED, UM, YET.
UM, SAME THING WITH THE, UM, I THINK THERE WAS THE REFERENCES MADE TO, UM, OWNERSHIP SHOULD NOT BEING ABLE TO BE TRANSFERRED.
THE, THE CASE THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A GERMAN SHEPHERD RESCUE, UM, FOR, AT THE PARTY ON A PARTY ON THE OTHER SIDE, UM, THE CASE DID NOT SAY WHAT IS BEING REPRESENTED THAT IT SAID, WHAT IT SAID IS THAT, UH, OWNERSHIP DOES NOT TRANSFER SIMPLY BY THE EXISTENCE OF A HOLD PERIOD AND THE EXPIRATION OF A WHOLE PERIOD THAT OWNERSHIP WOULD TRANSFER, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITIES, UM, OR MUSIC OR COUNTIES, WHATEVER MUNICIPALITY IT WAS, THEIR ORDINANCE, UM, EXPRESSLY STATED THAT OWNERSHIP WOULD BE TRANSFERRED AT THE END OF THE WHOLE PERIOD.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SIMPLY THAT YOUR OWNERSHIP RIGHTS OUTLAST, UH, THE WHOLE PERIOD IT'S THAT THE WHOLE PERIOD OF ORDINANCE HAS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT YOUR OWNERSHIP WOULD TRANSFER.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ISSUES THAT I DON'T THINK WE CAN RESOLVE TODAY.
I'M NOT SURE WE EVEN HAVE EMOTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THEY ARE RESOLVED WITH FULL ISSUES, BUT, UH, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, IT IS NOT A PROHIBITION.
THERE'S NO LEGAL PROHIBITION ON WHAT'S BEING, UH, DISCUSSED.
HOWEVER, I DO THINK WE WE'D HAVE TO SORT THROUGH IT IN OUR ORDINANCES.
WOULD WE START WITH THREE ORDINANCES OR WOULD IT BE PART OF, YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD BE, I GUESS YOU WOULD NOT BE, IT WOULD BE JUST BE PART OF ALL THE DISCUSSION ONE OR THE OTHER ACQUIRE AN LAB.
I HAVE GIVEN CLS ON THESE TWO SUBJECTS.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD, WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING WOULD REQUIRE SOME ORDINANCE CHANGES, UM, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.
UH, I DO THINK THE CITY IS RIGHT THAT IF, UH, IT WAS ALL PRIVATE AND IT DID NOT INVOLVE THE CITY, THE CITY WOULD HAVE, UM, RELIABILITY, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT AN ANIMAL WAS HURTING OR SOMEONE WAS HURT BY AN ANIMAL, UM, IN SOMEONE'S CARE.
BUT IF WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCES SO THAT THIS BECAME PART OF THE CITY'S PROGRAM, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD REALLY LEAD TO A DIFFERENT AS A RESULT.
ALL OF THIS IS I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THESE ARE RESOLVABLE ISSUES, BUT THEY ARE NOT RESOLVED SIMPLY BY THE PRESENTATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH IT.
AND THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD EXPECT US TO WORK THROUGH IT.
ANYONE, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, GO AHEAD, EDWARD.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, JOANNE, UM, ALL OF YOUR, EVERYTHING YOU HAD, ALL YOUR QUESTIONS WERE EXACTLY THE QUESTIONS I HAD.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THEM.
I REALLY DO WISH WE HAD, UH, DR.
JEFFERSON ON THE PHONE SO THAT WE COULD ASK THOSE.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT TO SAY.
I ECHO EXACTLY THE CONCERNS THAT JOANNE HAD, UM, TO DON, I KNOW I'M GOING TO GO BACK ON THIS, BUT YOU HAD A SPECIFIC OR A MR. BLAND, SORRY.
UM, YOU HAD A SPECIFIC, YOU WANTED INSTANCES OF WHEN PEOPLE WERE TOLD TO BUY THREE AND ONE TO RELEASE THE DOG BACK.
I DO HAVE A PHONE NUMBER OF A PERSON THAT WAS TOLD THAT, THAT I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH DURING THIS MEETING.
AND THEY SAID THEY ARE 100% SURE WAS SAID, AND THEY'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE THEIR PHONE NUMBER TO YOU TO EXPRESS TO THREE, ONE, ONE, SO THEY COULD PULL UP THAT CALL.
I WILL, I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU, UM, THROUGH EMAILS.
SO, OR THROUGH BELINDA, UM, THAT, THAT WAS ALL DAVID, UH, LIKE I SAID, JOANNE DID ECHO ALL OF MY CONCERNS AS WELL.
UH, SO I, I, AGAIN, WISH WE HAD DR.
JEFFERSON ON SO THAT WE COULD AT LEAST GET SOME ANSWERS TO THESE, RIGHT? UH, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE.
I THINK THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO, UH, LOOK AT, AT DOING A BETTER
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JOB AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE DOING A BAD JOB, IT'S THAT THE PANDEMIC AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS HAVE SHOWN THAT THIS IS OUR NO KILL SHELTER IS A WORK IN PROCESS.AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT STILL AREN'T WORKING AS WELL AS THEY COULD.
I THINK THAT THE HAAS PROGRAM SHOWS POTENTIAL IN SOME AREAS.
I THINK THERE'S SOME AREAS WE STILL NEED TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
AND I REALLY THINK IT, ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD REALLY BE GOOD TO HAVE ELLEN JEFFERSON HERE TO HELP US OUT.
AND I ALSO WOULD AGREE WITH RYAN THAT WE'D NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE LEGAL ISSUES.
I THINK THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT IF WE EXPECT THIS TO WORK.
SO, UM, I WOULD NOT JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW, I WOULD NOT WANT TO VOTE ON ANYTHING TODAY ON THIS.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD SESSION, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE AND ADD ANOTHER MEETING.
WE CAN HAVE ALLEN JEFFERSON THERE WHERE WE CAN ASK HER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE NEED TO HEAR HER ANSWERS TO.
WELL, LET ME ASK, IS ANYONE PREPARED TO PONY UP A MOTION AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
I MAKE A MOTION AT THE VOTING ON HOSPITAL, THE NECK.
SO THAT WAS A MOTION TO POSTPONE POS AND ANY, ANY ACTION ON A HOSTILE, THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT WAS THE SECOND BY JOANNE, UM, UM, ANY DISCUSSION FROM ANYONE ELSE, RYAN, I JUST WOULD LIKE I'M, I I'M VALUING EVERYONE'S COMMENTS.
AND TO THE EXTENT THIS WOULD PREVENT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FROM ASKING QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSING, I WOULD BE AGAINST IT.
UM, I'M FINE WITH I'M WITH POSTPONING, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INPUT AND THE QUESTIONS, MY COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE POST.
SO I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION TO POSTPONE NOW, CAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO NOT CUT OFF THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, PALMER.
UM, I WOULD WANT, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE, BUT IF WE DO, THERE IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS.
I WOULD WANT MOTION RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WE SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING TO FINISH THE DISCUSSION ON THIS BECAUSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING AND CHANGE QUICKLY.
AND I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT WAY THE CONVENTIONAL STUFF INHIBITS NOT FINISHED TODAY.
UH, I'LL JUST, I'LL SAY MY POSITION ON THE, ON THE
UM, MY COUNCIL OFFICE HAS CONTACTED ME, THEY'RE INTERESTED.
SO, UH, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, I'M INTERESTED.
UM, SO I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE ON, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME MOTION OR RUNNING BECAUSE OF THAT AND THAT ALONE.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED TO, UH, VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.
UM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO RUN, I'M GOING TO RUN DOWN, UH, DIALECT.
UM, I'M A NO, UH, K E THIS IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO NEXT MEETING.
SO JUST A QUICK, SO THIS IS THE NO'S ARE TO NOT POSTPONE OR TO THE NOSE OR TO POSTPONE.
DID YOU SAY, UH, YEAH, UH, I VOTE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
ANDREA, I VOTE TO POSTPONE JOANNE.
UM, I VOTE TO POSTPONE BRIAN AT THIS TIME BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE WEIGHED IN AND ASK QUESTIONS, I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.
CAUSE I THINK THE COMMISSIONER SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT ISSUE.
DID I MISS ANYBODY? OH, MOTION NEEDS SEVEN VOTES.
UM, WE CAN CONTINUE DISCUSSION FOR FEW MORE MINUTES.
UH, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ON THE ACTUAL MERITS OF,
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UH, RECOMMENDING PASS OR DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN ON, UH, AGAINST IT, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER MOTION OR RIGHT.CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION IF NO ONE ELSE HAS A ONE PAGE MR. WE DID NOT GET CRAIG'S BOAT? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
WHAT WAS YOUR BOAT, GREG? I AGREE WITH RYAN.
SO THAT WAS THREE DAYS AND SIX NOTES.
UM, JOANNE, YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION AND THEN RYAN.
OH, UM, FOR THE CITY, UM, A LOT OF HAAS SEEMS TO INVOLVE A LOT OF CHANGES WITH, UH, INVOLVING IT.
AND YOU'VE MENTIONED IN SOME OF THE EARLIER TALKS THAT, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH NOT ISSUES, BUT IT TAKES A WHILE FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INVOLVED IN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
UM, DO YOU SEE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT IT FOR HAAS IMPLEMENTATION FOR A PILOT, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO, UM, COORDINATE? WELL, WE RECENTLY HAD TO SEND A MEMO TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE MISSED THE DEADLINE ON THE 16 REPORTS THAT THE NEW, THE LAST ORDINANCE REQUIRED US TO HEAR.
AND I KNOW MONICA MENTIONED ONE BY BREAKING DOWN BY SPECIES ON EUTHANIZATION.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO SEND THEM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT.
UH, OUR IT PERSON THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO US, UH, LEFT THE DEPARTMENT AND WRITE IT RIGHT AS THE COBIT SHUTDOWN IS HAPPENING.
AND THOSE REPORTS HAVE JUST BEEN OUT THERE AND YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'D GET TO WORK ON THEM SO THAT YES, WE ARE LIMITED ON THE, WHAT WE CAN GET IT BEFORE US.
UM, I GUESS THAT I WANTED TO, UH, SPEAK TO HAAS AND, AND FIRST OF ALL, I ABSOLUTELY HEAR ALL OF THE OBJECTIONS AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE VALID AND, UM, I, I AM LISTENING I'M THIS WAS MORE OF A LISTENING SESSION FOR ME THAN ANY THAN ANYTHING.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WEIGHING IN.
UM, I THINK THAT THESE VOICES ARE IMPORTANT.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO EMAILED US WITH VERY SPECIFIC CONCERNS.
THE PETITION EMAILS ARE UNHELPFUL WHEN WE SEE THE SAME THING, SAME EXACT LANGUAGE 50 TIMES, BUT FOR THE FOLKS WHO SPENT THE TIME TO EMAIL US AND HAVE BACKUP MATERIALS, AND WE'RE REALLY THOUGHTFUL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN HEAR US, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DID.
UM, I READ THEM AND THEY'RE VALUABLE AND INSIGHTFUL AND HELPFUL.
UM, I, UH, I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR IN THE THEORY OF HAAS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHICH IS A SERVICES BASED MODEL.
UM, SO THAT, UM, WE TREAT ANIMALS SERVICES LIKE A FAMILY SERVICE, OR AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT.
AND I WANT TO CONFESS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I UNDERSTAND IT COMPLETELY, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I UNDERSTAND IT TO BE AN ANIMAL SERVICE, A FAMILY SERVICES TYPE MODEL, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO INSTANTANEOUSLY PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO PEOPLE RATHER THAN PUTTING THEM OFF FOR SEVERAL WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS AS WE HAVE, UM, AT TIMES DONE.
AS, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS OF NOW SOMEONE AND WITH, UH, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SPEND THEIR OWN ANIMAL SEVERAL WEEK LONG PLATELETS, WHEREAS HAAS WOULD INSTANTANEOUS PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME SERVICES, OBVIOUSLY THAT, UM, TO INCENT PEOPLE, TO TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, UM, TO TRY TO PROVIDE WITH MATERIALS OR FOOD OR MEDICAL SERVICE, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHATEVER SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS RATHER THAN JUST HOLD ON FOR.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING DURING THAT SIX WEEKS.
WE DON'T KNOW THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH WHAT THE ANIMAL IS GOING THROUGH.
SO I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND WHAT I UNDERSTAND, MODEL B, UM, WHICH IS A SERVICE MODEL.
WE ALREADY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IMMEDIATELY AND EFFECTIVELY TO PEOPLE.
I DO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR A HOSTILE MODEL.
ANY OF THIS MADE FOR, UH, FOR, UH, THE CITIZEN, UM, FOR A CITIZEN WHO FINDS IT VERY ANIMAL, UH, IN MY MIND HAS TO BE A HUNDRED PERCENT ADDING THAT THAT HAAS MODEL IS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING
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BACKUP MATERIALS, UM, UH, CITIZENS THAT WE SOMEWHAT INDICATE THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S HARD TO THINK THAT ANSWERED BY AND IF SHE WERE ON THE PHONE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THOSE ARE AN ACCURATE, UM, BUT THAT IT SAID, AND I, I DID READ EMAILS OF THOSE CONSENT VERY SERIOUSLY.
SO FOR ME, I WOULD NOT SUPPORT US UNLESS IT WAS VOLUNTEER OR THE PERSON WHO BEING ASKED TO BUY THAT SERVICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT TO DATE, UM, THE CONCERN THAT THIS COULD BE, UH, HARD ON CITIZENS IN, IN LOWER INCOME.
AGAIN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OPPOSITE OF THAT, THAT THIS IS THE TRYING, THIS IS THE TEMP PROTOTYPE SERVICES.
SO PERSONS IN LOWER INCOME COMMUNITIES, THESE SERVICES BEFORE COMMUNITY TO WAIT SIX WEEKS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A PROVISION OF SERVICE, BUT CAN INSTANTANEOUSLY PROVIDE PHONE AND CHAT.
IT COULD BE OVER THE PHONE TOO.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PUDDLE IN THEORY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ARE VALID AND IMPORTANT AND THINGS THAT I WOULD, THAT I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AND INCLUDING THE LEGAL ISSUES, I DON'T THINK TOMORROW THAT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, THAT THE CITY COULD DO IT, UH, LEAVE WITHOUT SOME ORDINANCE.
SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I WANT TO PROPOSE OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOME OF AS MINE, I LOVE THEORY.
I DO THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AND ALL OF THEM, HERE'S MY BUDDY.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH BOATS TO REALLY PASS ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
UM, THERE'S ONLY NINE PEOPLE HERE THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE REFUSAL, UH, I WILL OBTAIN THE UP AND DOWN, UH, ON ONE, BUT MY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UM, BUYING SOME TIME, BUT BY FORMING A REALLY QUICK WORK GROUP THAT COULD MEET OUTSIDE THE PARAMETERS OF THIS AWFUL SYSTEM, OFFENSE CITY, UM, AND THEN, UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, GET A MEETING, YOU KNOW, EARLY NEXT MONTH OR WHENEVER WE CAN.
AND, AND I ANSWERED SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AND, UM, LIKE I SAID, I WOULD, I SHARE THE SAME INJURY AND CONCERNS HAS BEEN PRESENTED HERE THAT AFTERNOON.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD BE A YES ON EXPLORING IT, BUT MY THOUGHT IS IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST PLAYING TIME WITH THE GROUP.
I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTION, ANYONE ASK, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION BEFORE THE HOPS ON TO LOOK AT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE, SO WE CAN END THAT WE CAN MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THAT.
I WOULD SAY I'D GO AND FORM A PASSPORT GROUP PERIOD.
SECOND BY CRAIG, UH, DISCUSSION.
UH, I WILL SAY THAT, YEAH, RYAN, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE FOUND OUT ANYTHING.
IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE OUT, ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHIME IN ON THIS, KEEPING UP WITH WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL I WILL SAY, IS THAT A RESPONSE? AND I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU GET DR.
JEFFERSON BACK IN FRONT OF US TO KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, UM, YOU WERE BREAKING UP, YOU WANT, YOU ASKED WHAT, HOW SOON YOU GET BACK TO THIS BODY ON THIS MEETING.
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ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE OTHER 30 PLUS CITIES THAT HAVE YEAH, WELL, THE OPTIONS WOULD BE, THE OPTIONS WOULD BE WAITING TILL SEPTEMBER OR TO ASK IF I'M ALLOWED TO CALL ANOTHER SPECIAL, WHICH I COULD DO IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, I GUESS, DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNORS, THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE MAYOR'S RESTRICTIONS, RYAN, ARE WE ALLOWED TO AS A BODY TO HAVE A REGULAR MEETING THAT IS NOT YOUR, A SPECIAL, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.UM, I'VE ALWAYS READ THAT THE CHAIR CAN CALL A SPECIAL MEETING.
I IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BYLAWS TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
THERE MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE NECESSARY CAUSE I WOULD CALL ON AS SOON AS WE WANTED IT, YOU KNOW, JUST I'D HAVE TO GET WITH, UH, BELINDA AT ANOTHER TIME, NOT ON A FRIDAY.
UM, BUT YES, I MEAN, I, I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THE LEGALITIES OF, OF CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING AND, UH, THE AVAILABILITY OF TIME SLOTS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST DUE TO THE WHOLE, UH, THING, BUT I WOULD BE A MINIMAL TO CALLING ONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION CHAIR.
THIS IS STEPHANIE AT CITY HALL.
I'M SORRY FOR THE INTERRUPTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOSE AB SUPPORT ABOUT TWO MINUTES.
SO WE DO NEED TO WRAP UP THIS MEETING.
I CAN ALSO SPEAK TO THE SPECIAL CALLED RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE SUSPENDING YOUR LIMITS ON HAVING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
SO YOU CAN CERTAINLY HAVE ONE.
HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM IS TIME SLOTS.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO GET YOU IN AS SOON AS WE CAN, BUT WE ARE REALLY LIMITED ON WHEN WE CAN DO THAT.
SO, BUT YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING UNTIL THESE WAIVERS ARE LIFTED.
SO MOTION TO FORM THE WORK GROUP, EVERYBODY.
I THINK EVERYBODY JUST SAY AYE.
UM, IN THE BRIEF TIME THAT WE HAVE LEFT, WE CAN WORK ON THE AGENDA,
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BELINDA, BUT WE'LL JUST CARRY PERRY FOR AN OLD BUSINESS AND ADD HAAS WORK GROUP.RYAN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING REAL QUICK? WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUST INVITE YOU OR AUTHORIZE YOU TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING FOR PURPOSES OF PUTTING OUT THERE THAT I SUPPORT YOU CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING.
I WILL, I WILL GET WITH BOTH LINDA AND I WILL CHECK THE, UH, OUR RESOURCES AND I GET BACK TO EVERYBODY AS SOON AS I CAN.
UH, I WISH WE WISH THE MEETING WOULD'VE GONE BETTER, BUT, UH, WHEN, AS WELL AS IT COULD, I GUESS, WITH THE LIMITED INTERNET.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH EVERYONE INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT SERVING ON THE WORK GROUP.
WE'LL TRY TO GET SOMETHING GO ON IMMEDIATELY.
UM, AND I'LL TALK TO BELINDA ABOUT FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO CALL A SPECIAL AFTER JEFFERSON.
UM, IT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING, BUT WE'LL TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME AND, UH, SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE.
SO THANK YOU FOR MEETING ADJOURNED.