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          JUST LET US KNOW WHEN WE'RE READY TO START. 
          WE ARE GOOD TO GO. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL CALL THE MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. 
          WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MISSING MEMBERS AND A COUPLE, A ONE LATE MEMBER, ONE, TWO, SIX, EIGHT, NINE, 10 MEMBERS. 
          SO WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          [Reading of the Agenda]
I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP WITH, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UM, AND SINCE AGENDA TONIGHT IS PROPOSED CONSISTS OF THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. 
          UM, AND THEN GETTING INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, ITEMS B ONE AND B TWO, UH, NPA 2020 DOES (001) 401-7135 EAST BEN WHITE BOULEVARD DISTRICT TO, UH, HAVE A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TIL AUGUST 25TH. 
          THAT'S A CHANGE. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S TRUE. 
          VERA, AUGUST 25TH IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO FOR EVERYONE, UH, FOR EVERYONE LISTENING IN, UM, WE ARE, UH, RUNNING THROUGH ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE WHICH ONES, UH, ARE UNCONTROVERSIAL AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO PASS THROUGH ALL AT ONCE AND WE'RE GOING TO READ THOSE ITEMS. UH, AND THEN I'M GOING TO READ SOME ITEMS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR DISCUSSION AND THAT'S THE MORE TRADITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE AFTER WE DO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SO CONTINUING DOWN THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, ITEM B3, NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO 3.01. 
          DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DISTRICT ONE, UH, IS PROPOSED FOR AN APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ITEM B FOR NPA 2018 ZERO ZERO TWO ONE OH TWO SKYLINE. 
          OLTORF MIXED USE DISTRICT THREE. 
          UM, THAT ITEM, UH, WE HAVE IT IN DEFINITE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT. 
          AND IS THAT BEING CONTESTED? I'M NOT SHOWING IT MARKED AS, AS CONSENT MR. RIVERA, UM, ITEMS. CAN I SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE? UM, WHEN I PRINTED OUT MY DOCUMENT, I GOT WHOLE SCREWED UP. 
          UM, THE, UH, ITEM B FIVE AND B SIX C 14 2020, UH, FIRST ZERO ZERO ONE 9.01 AT A LOW NOTE THREE WEST 24TH STREET, DISTRICT NINE. 
          AND THEN ITEM B SIX, C 14 2020, UH, UH, ZERO ZERO TWO SIX 1103 WEST 24TH STREET, UH, DISTRICT NINE. 
          UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE UP FOR DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, UH,  2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SEVEN 2001. 
          WHAT A LUCAS STREET DISTRICT NINE ITEM  IS WITHDRAWN TONIGHT. 
          ITEM B EIGHT  LANE REZONING DISTRICT FIVE, UM, IS UP FOR CONSENT APPROVAL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THAT, UH, AND THEN ITEMS C NINE C 1420 1901 OH EIGHT PARKER HOUSE DISTRICT NINE AT 2,404 RIO GRANDE STREET. 
          UM, UH, QUESTIONS. 
          THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ODD ONE. 
          I'M GOING TO PUT IT UP FOR CONSENT. 
          UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GET DONE WITH THE AGENDA AND SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION. 
          I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS CASE, SO, BUT IT IS TENTATIVELY OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 10 C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX NINE, ROGERS, WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS, HISTORIC DISTRICT DISTRICT ONE. 
          UM, UH, ROUGHLY ABOUT, ABOUT EAST 21ST STREET TO THE NORTH, ET CETERA. 
          THIS IS OUR NEW, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          UM, ITEM B O 11, A SITE PLAN S P 2019 ZERO TWO FIVE THREE C SPRINGDALE FARMS DISTRICT THREE, UH, IS OFFERED FOR, UH, CONSENT TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS. 
          UM, UH, PLEASE, UH, AS CODIFIED IN THE STAFF MEMO DATED AUGUST 7TH, 2020. 
          SO IT'S THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR APPROVAL, BUT WITH CONDITIONS, UM, AS CODIFIED IN STAFF MEMO DATED AUGUST SEVEN, 2020, ITEM B 12, UH, A SITE PLAN, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE 
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ONLY SP 20 2010 25 D BOAT DOCK AND BULKHEAD DISTRICT 10 AT 3002. 
          SCENIC DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 13, C H 2020 ZERO ZERO NINE 0.08 AND CHAKA ROAD APARTMENTS DISTRICT FIVE IT'S 77 13 AND SHAKA ROAD, UM, THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND ITEM C 14, UH, FINAL PLAT FROM PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT 2016, ZERO TWO FOUR SEVEN.ONE, A PIONEER CROSSING EAST SECTION 19 FINAL PLAT DISTRICT ONE, UH, IS OFFERED FOR, UH, DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS IS REFLECTED IN EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT. 
          SO LET'S RUN THROUGH THOSE BRIEFLY ONE MORE TIME, UM, ITEMS B ONE AND B TWO ARE POSTPONED, UH, ITEM B3 IS POSTPONED, UMM, ITEM BEFORE IS POSTPONED ITEMS.  WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ITEM B SEVEN WAS WITHDRAWN ITEM B EIGHT. 
          THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          DO YOU WANT TO BE TOO? I THOUGHT THAT WAS ODD. 
          IT WAS NOT AUGUST 25TH ITEMS V ONE AND B TWO ARE OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, SO BACK TO OUR LIST, ITEM B NINE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          THE 10 STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, THE 11 STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS OFTEN FOR CONSENT THE 12, UH, I'M SORRY, WITH CONDITIONS AS A, IN THE STAFF MEMO DATED AUGUST SEVEN, 2020, ITEM NUMBER B12 IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 13 IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND ITEM B 14 IS CONSENT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AS REFLECTED ON EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT. 
          UM, AND BEFORE WE GET INTO, UM, OTHER ITEMS. SO THE ONLY ONES THAT I HAVE, UM, FOR DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW ARE THE B ONE AND B TWO TOGETHER THE FIVE AND B SIX TOGETHER. 
          I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IT. 
          UM, NOW ITEM THE PARKER HOUSE CASE, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE STEVE SADUSKY HOPEFULLY ON THE LINE WITH US. 
          ARE YOU WITH US, MR. SADECKI HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. 
          YES. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO WE ARE, UH, I'VE, I'VE PUT THIS ONE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UM, OPPOSITION SIGN UP TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST IT. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD JUST BE HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT AND GETTING A STAFF PROPOSAL. 
          UH, THE, UM, UH, IF WE COULD GET SOME INFORMATION FROM YOU THAT MIGHT INFORM THE COMMISSION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO KEEP THIS ON CONSENT, I COULD SPECIFICALLY, THERE'S AN INTEREST IN WHY THE, UM, THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, UH, VOTED AGAINST THIS REZONING. 
          AND, UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER FURTHER. 
          SO IF YOU COULD ENLIGHTEN US ALL ON THAT, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YOU HAPPY TO BE IN THE COMMISSIONERS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. 
          THIS CASE WENT BEFORE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IN MAY, AND THEY DID VOTE AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, UH, THE ENTIRE TRACT, BUT THE SOUND SLIPPED AROUND INCLUDING THE BACK PARKING LOT HAD BEEN ZONED HISTORIC. 
          THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REVIEWED AND APPROVED FOR A NEW BUILDING BEHIND THE HISTORIC HOUSE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, BUT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN A PLAN FOR HER CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED ON THAT YET. 
          AND THE LANDMARK COMMISSION'S DECISION TO RECOMMEND AGAINST THE HISTORIC ZONING WAS THAT IF THIS WAS THE BUILDING THAT IS NOT BUILT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO REVIEW THE PLANS FOR HITTING NEW CONSTRUCTION BEHIND THE HOUSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IN ESSENCE, THE COMMISSION WAS VOTING AGAINST THE REMOVAL BECAUSE, UM, UH, THEY WANT TO HAVE, UH, SOME OVERSIGHT OVER THE PART OF THE, THE SITE THAT IS THE PARKING LOT THAT, UM, WE'LL GET SOMETHING BUILT ON IT BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WITH THE REZONING, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT'S OUT THERE, IT WOULD BE THE ONE ACTUALLY BUILT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO PULL THIS ONE OR FURTHER DISCUSS COMMISSIONER SECRET? I WOULD LIKE TO POLL THIS. 
          I HEARD FROM CAM PACK TODAY AND THEY ARE NOT IN AGREEMENT. 
          WHAT THE, EXCUSE ME, WHAT THE 10 
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FOOT SETBACK THEY WANT. 
          WE'LL PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO 
          [Consent Agenda]
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA AS LAID OUT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC AND APPROVED? YES. 
          UM, I BELIEVE WITH YOUR PRINTING, YOU MAY HAVE MISREAD ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          I THINK YOU CALLED IT AN APPLICANT INDEFINITE, BUT IT COULD BE STAFF TO AUGUST 25TH. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          YOU JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S READ INTO THE RECORD, THE THREE AND THE ITEM A, THE PARKER HOUSE. 
          I'M SORRY IS NOT BA IS, UM, THERE WE GO. 
          SO B NINE IS PULLED FOR CONSENT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND, UM, AND THEN ON B 11, UM, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN PULLING IT BACK. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE. 
          THIS WAS THE ONE WHERE YOU HAD ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE THAT, UH, THEY OUGHT TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND COME UP WITH SOME REAL STRONG CONDITIONS THAT WOULD CONVINCE US TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN THE CRITICAL ZONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IT. 
          I THINK, UH, THE FORMAL STAFF HAS GENERALLY KIND OF A HIGH BAR, UH, BUT, UM, WE HAVE A LITTLE, WE'RE NOT TOO HEAVY TONIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST WALK THROUGH THAT ONE, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TIME TO DO TONIGHT, FOR SURE. 
          SCHNEIDER. 
          YOU WANT TO PULL IT? I LIKE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D LIKE TO JUST HEAR FROM ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BRIEFLY BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD THERE GO PUSHERS ARE OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE SHIT GREEN CONSENT. 
          I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW EXCITED I AM THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. 
          DID ROGERS, WASHINGTON BLUE CROSS BLUE CROSS THE STORY DISTRICT. 
          IT'S TRULY AN EXCITING BEING. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S THE GUY THAT'S WHO OUR DISTRICTS IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION INITIATIVES THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO THANK YOU TO STAFF AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FOLKS WHO WORKED ON IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, RECUSALS, MISTER? HEMPEL GO AHEAD. 
           MY FIRM IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT WORKING IN SCORING BELT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER RECUSALS TONIGHT? NOT HE WAS A FOOT QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          THERE'S RAY ANDERSON TO CONFIRM THAT I HAVEN'T MISSED ONE AND TWO ARE NOT FROM THERE ON THAT'S RIGHT. 
          ITEMS, NUMBER ONE AND TWO ARE ON DISCUSSION AND IT IS ITEM B3 THAT HAS THE STAFF PLUS WOMAN UNTIL AUGUST 20TH, THE OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR RECUSALS COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, MOVING APPROVAL. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES A CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT ONE BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD, UM, ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW YOUR GREENS. 
          UM, AND TONIGHT WE ARE NINE. 
          UH, SO WE WILL, UH, THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY NINE TO ZERO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S START OUT 
          [Items B1 & B2 ]
WITH THE ONE AND THE TWO AT 71 35 EAST BEN WHITE, UM, AS MEREDITH, DO WE WANT TO START WITH YOU, MR. SEEGER? GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU'RE MUTED. 
          WE ARE 10. 
          OH, WE'RE 10. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          WE ARE 10. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER CIGARETTE. 
          UH, STARTING WITH . 
          UH, MS. MEREDITH, ARE YOU HERE? YES, I GO AHEAD AND START US ON THIS ONE DEPARTMENT ITEM D ONE IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 4.01. 
          THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS SEVEN ONE THREE FIVE EASTERN WHITE BOULEVARD SERVICE ROAD, EASTBOUND. 
          IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AREA. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR INDUSTRY TO MULTIFAMILY LAND USE. 
          IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          THERE IS A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOODS SCENE WITH EMISSIONS. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, THIS IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE ZONING CASE IF YOU'RE READY. 
          WE'RE READY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THIS, THIS IS THE CORRESPONDING ZONING CASE. 
          THE PROPERTY CONTAINS ONE VACANT RESIDENCE. 
          IT HAS L I N P ZONING 
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THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN OCTOBER OF 2002. 
          AT THE TIME THE SOUTHEAST PLAN WAS ADOPTED. 
          CARSON CREEK EXTENDS THROUGH THE SOUTH PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          UH, THERE IS AN INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL PARK TO THE EAST, A DATA CENTER WITHIN THE MED CENTER DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH AND A HOTEL AND AN OFFICE BUILDING TO THE WEST ON CASEY BRIDGE COURT. 
          THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MF FOUR AND ZONING FOR THE ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT UP TO 375 APARTMENT UNITS. 
          AND, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO, UM, INTENDED TO ENDEAVOR TO DEDICATE 16.6 ACRES TO THE SOUTH OF THE REZONING ALONG CARSON CREEK IS PUBLIC PARK PARKLAND. 
          JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS WOULD BE DEDICATED AS PART OF A SITE PLANNER, AND IT IS NOT IN THIS REZONING AREA. 
          AS MAUREEN MENTIONED, THE STAFF HAS BEEN ABLE TO RECOMMEND THE APPLICANT'S REZONING REQUEST, AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING MAINTAINING L I N T A REZONING WOULD COUNTRY CONTINUE TO PRINT OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DUST REAL ACREAGE ADDING IN AND RESIDENTIAL USES COULD RESULT IN LAW. 
          THE LOSS OF MORE INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, INDUSTRIAL USES GENERALLY DO NOT SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          AND ALTHOUGH THE AIRPORT GATEWAY, SO DIVISION DOES INCLUDE A MIXED USE INCOME COMPONENT. 
          ALL PLATTED LOTS HAVE ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET AND THAT SITUATION AND THE PLAN USES OUR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL. 
          AS I, UH, MAUREEN MENTIONED THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED CONTACT TEAM AND THE LOS ARE BOLUS H O HAVE PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING AND RELATED NPA CASES. 
          UH, SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO JUST MAINTAIN THE EXISTING L I N P ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT WITH US, MR. HARTMAN? ARE YOU HERE FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, I AM. 
          CHAIR CAN STAFF. 
          MY PRESENTATION IS THAT YES. 
          AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DELAY, SO MAKE SURE TO TURN DOWN YOUR COMPUTER. 
          AND IF YOU JUST WANT TO CUE THE SLIDE, I WILL SAY, OKAY. 
          EVERY TIME WE'VE GOTTEN THERE, WE'LL DO IT SOMEWHERE WITH MR. HARMON. 
          YOU ARE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN GET OFF SPEAKER PHONE OR TAKE OTHER MEASURES TO CONNECT A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. 
          YES. 
          I WILL SPEAK MORE CLEARLY AS MY PRESENTATION NUTS. 
          IT IS. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE ON SLIDE ONE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FIND REAL ESTATE FOR SOME NEW ONE 35 PIECE THAN THE WHITE MULTIFAMILY. 
          WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THE PROJECT TEAM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE PROJECT PROJECT TRACKS 83 AND AT CASEY BRIDGE COURT. 
          NEXT SLIDE WAS ONLY MATT SHOWS THE SUBJECT TRACKS ZONED L I N P AS WELL AS THE EASTERN SOUTHERN WESTERN IS 56 ACRES OF CSM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS GRAPH SHOWS THAT THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER DID SUBJECT TRACK. 
          THAT'S BEING REZONED FROM INDUSTRY TO MULTIFAMILY  RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. 
          AND THAT WAS ENVISIONED UNDER THIS ROOM. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS SHOWS THAT A SUBJECT TRACKING THAT ALL OUTSIDE THE AIRPORT OVERLAY A THREE THAT'S IN BLOOM IN BETHEL. 
          RESIDENTIAL IS AUTHORIZED IN THIS AREA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WELL, RECENTLY WE'RE PURCHASING 40 ACRES. 
          WE ZOOM INTO NORTH 18 ACRES NORTH OF CARSON CREEK. 
          THAT'S A VACANT RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD ADJACENT TO THE REST IS 56 ACRES. 
          THIS, THIS BODY, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, UM, A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT TO THE WEST AT 1,625, THAT WAS 0%, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. 
          AND ALSO TO THE ARREST IMMEDIATELY WAS 31 12TH CASEY BRIDGE, WHICH AUTHORIZES SERVICE STATION DETAIL RESTAURANT OFFICE WAREHOUSE, WE'RE PROPOSING 375 MONTHS UNITS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          THE TYPICAL REGARD TO STYLE APARTMENTS WITH ACCESS TO BIN WHITE, I'LL DISCUSS THE 16.6 PUBLIC PARKLAND DEDICATION. 
          WE'RE REQUESTING HIM AT PRESENTING PRIMARILY FLEXIBILITY BEFORE STORY PROJECTS, FOUR STORY BUILDING. 
          I MEAN, YOU'RE OVERLOADING HIM. 
          MR. HARTMAN. 
          YOU'RE OVERLOADING YOUR MIC JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          IF YOU CAN BACK OFF IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          I THINK YOU'LL GET, BE MORE CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT BITE IS, DID JASON ADJACENT USES? THAT'S GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'LL SEE THE SUBJECT TRACK 18 ACRES IN MAROON AND THE BALANCE OF THE TRACTOR REMAINDER OUTLINED IN MAROON WITH THE CSN NEW TO THE WEST, AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT USES. 
          I REFERENCED THE HOTEL OFFICE. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL, SEVERAL OTHER HOTELS IMMEDIATELY TO 
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THE EASTERN SOUTH, THEIR FLEX OFFICE DATA CENTERS, THE PROGRESSIVE INSURANCE TO THE SOUTH. 
          NEXT SLIDE, I THINK STEPH MENTIONED IN THE REPORT. 
          THE IMAGINE AUSTIN SHOWS THIS AS A JOB CENTER AND STAFF THOUGHT IT WASN'T APPROPRIATE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL. 
          IN CONTRAST, WE BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT HOUSING SHOULD BE PROVIDED FOR EMPLOYERS, AND WE HAVE COMMITMENT FOR OUR PROJECT TO PROVIDE THAT HOUSING. 
          THIS SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THAT OUR PROJECT IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL THAT IS AUTHORIZED IN THIS AREA AND COATING SEVERAL THOUSAND WAS IN THE LOCKET. 
          LUCKY PBA FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          NEXT SIDE SHOWS THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH THE TYPICAL AMENITIES PER DOG PARK, AS WELL AS A TOWN HOME CARRIAGE AND FORCED AWAY RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON THIS MULTIFAMILY AND PUBLIC PARKLAND CONCEPT PLAN. 
          THIS AREA IS PARKLAND DEFICIENT, AND WE RECEIVED OBTAINED THE NERVE STIMULATION LETTER FROM PARTS, AND IT REQUIRES A MURAL PROVIDING CONNECTIVITY TO METRO CENTER DRIVE AND A FUTURE TRAIL HEADS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT FEATURE TRAIL HEAD AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SIDE. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS AN EARLY TERMINATION LETTER FROM PART AND ALL THOSE SHOWN THEM AS A CONCEPT PLAN. 
          A DETERMINATION LETTERS SHOW REQUIRES THAT THE PARKLAND ONSITE IS LOCKED IN THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 11 WE'LL SKIP AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SLIDE, 12 PARKLAND DEDICATION AND RECREATIONAL TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          THIS SHOWS AGAIN, THE PROJECT WITH PARKLAND AND WITH SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS THAT CONNECT ADJACENT TO THE ADJACENT MET CINDER TRAIL NETWORK. 
          NEXT SLIDE,  NEXT WINTER TRAIL. 
          THIS GOLF COURSE THAT SHOWS THE TYPE OF AMENITIES THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE ON OFF OUR CLAIM. 
          THE NEXT SIDE SHOWS THE BURST ROOMS FOR PLANNING THAT'S GOING ON FOR A MULTIMODAL CONNECTION WITH THE SUBJECT TRACKED DIRECTLY IN THIS AREA. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE ZONING COMPARISON FOCUSING ON THE AFFORDABLE COMPONENT IN THE SECOND ROW, OBVIOUSLY LA WOULD HAVE ZERO AFFORDABLE COMPONENT IN OUR DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTACTING WITH COMMITTED TO VOLUNTARILY CONTRIBUTING FOR COMMITTING TO 10% AFFORDABLE UNITS AT 80% MFI BASED ON OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THIS WEEK, WE'RE ANNOUNCING TODAY TO COMMISSIONERS THAT WORK ENHANCING THAT COMMITMENT TO 5% AT 60% OF MSI AND 5% THAT EITHER 80% MFI, THE NEXT SIDE FOCUSES ON JUST A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT ARE OUT OF THE PARKLAND, FULFILLS MULTIPLE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING GOAL NUMBER ONE, OBJECTIVE, NUMBER ONE FOR HOUSING, AS WELL AS PARKLAND IN THIS, AND THEY WOULD PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE FINAL SIDE IS JUST A SUMMARY OF OUR REASONS TO SUPPORT, INCLUDING THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES, FOCUS MARKETING WITH DISCOUNT AVAILABLE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ABI EMPLOYEES, AND AN ONSITE COURTESY POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH WAS REQUESTED BY THE CONTENT CONTACT TEAM THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT. 
          AND AGAIN, I'D REITERATE THAT OUR COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS 5%, 8%, 5%, 60%, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HARTMAN. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO, UH, SUPPORTERS. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE MAC MIGUEL WORTH ON THE LINE AND THEN IT'LL BE TEMPLE KENNEDY. 
          YES. 
          SMACK MAC GLASS. 
          HE HAS THE APPLICANT AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE ONLY OTHER PERSON I HAVE SIGNED UP IS ANNA GARY. 
          UM, AND I THINK YOU WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, ALTHOUGH I HAVE YOU DOWN AS OPPOSED ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, THIS IS ANNA. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          YES. 
          UM, MY NAME IS SANDRA , COUGHING COMMISSIONERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR PICKING YOUR COUNTRY. 
          LISTEN WITH MY VISIT WITH US. 
          UM, I'M THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF DANCED AT THIS COMPANY NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM. 
          I ALSO NEED A STATE THAT I ALSO SIT ON THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I'M NOT IN ANY WAY SPEAKING FOR ON THE BEHALF OF THE SAP COMMISSION. 
          UM, YES, THE CONTRACT TEAM IS UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTING THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GET ANY HELPING STOCK. 
          UM, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OR SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THE, UM, TECH STOCK IS HAVING MOVING THEIR HEADQUARTERS TO WITHIN OUR COMBINED CONTACT TEAM AREA. 
          SO WE NEED TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY FOR THEM, FOR THEM. 
          THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S, UM, FUTURE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT FLOW WITH THE MED CENTER. 
          AND WE DON'T MOST, YOU KNOW, WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE OFFER THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED REGARDING THE HOUSING TO KEEP A LITTLE BIT OF 
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PERSPECTIVE. 
          THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE ENCOUNTER IN THIS STUFF, THIS COMPANY WHO HAD CONTACT HIM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MAPPING, THE INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU TO, TO THE COMMISSIONERS THIS MORNING, UM, WE POUND DOWN BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL, UM, ZONING MANY TIMES WHAT WE WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET HOUSING. 
          WE CAN NOT BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS. 
          AND SO WE LOST ONE OPPORTUNITY ALONG STASSNEY, WHICH WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE, WE COULD NOT DO THAT. 
          AND IN DOING THAT, WE VISITED WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE GOT A SMALL SAMPLING OF THE HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN OUR AREA. 
          SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE OR HOUSING OR RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY, ANOTHER ISSUE WITH YOU WITH THIS, THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT HAND, UM, I HAVE THE MAP THAT I PROVIDED A LITTLE X AND BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, A DEVELOPER APPROACHED US ABOUT RESIDENTIAL, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. 
          AND WE HAD, WELL, THE APPLICANT WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT OVERLAY. 
          SO WE HAD TO DEAL WITH HAZARDOUS ISSUES, UM, HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS ISSUES AND, UH, AIRPORT OVERLAY. 
          AND, UM, WE HAD ONE OPPORTUNITY FOR, WE DID GET, AND THIS WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHERE ONE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WAS CONVERTED FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, AND WE BREAK CITED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AND SO WE JUST LOOKED FOR ANY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE TO, UM, ADDRESS ANY HEALTHY NEEDS. 
          ALSO ENVIRONMENT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT TO US. 
          THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THE PARK PARKING TO PARK SPACE, UH, IN STATES ALONG CARSON CREEK, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, WE VALUE OUR CREEKS AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND ALSO WE, UM, NOTE, WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE A FOOD DESERT AND ALSO ON THE MAP, YOU WILL SEE WHERE THE, YOU ARE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, UPPER LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE WITH THIS URBAN ROOTS, SEEN THAT INDUSTRIAL AREA. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOOD, HOPEFULLY GROWING IN OUR AREA. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ENCOUNTER. 
          SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. HOWARD, DO YOU WANT TO CLOSE? THIS IS DAVID HARTMAN. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. 
          BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOUR SECRET, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU'RE MUTED. 
          WAIT, THERE YOU GO. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO BE MEMORIALIZED. 
          IS IT A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THIS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SEEKER. 
          DAVID HARTMAN. 
          YES, WE WERE. 
          THIS IS THE LIMIT FOR A REASON. 
          SO WE WERE VOLUNTARILY COMMITTING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT WILL BE A MEMORIALIZED BY COUNCIL THIRD RATING VIA A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HANDLES AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?  ALL IN FAVOR GREEN AND THAT IS NINE NOW. 
          THAT'S COMMISSIONER HOWARD. 
          UM, BUT NOPE, THERE WE ARE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          10. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'LL GO AHEAD. 
          AND I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MS. MEREDITH, UH, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE I'M HERE? UH, I WAS WONDERING WHY, UM, THE APPLICANT'S BACKUP SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THE FLOODING STILL SHOWS INDUSTRIAL ZONING OVER A LARGE PART OF THIS AREA. 
          UM, BUT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT MAPS, I SAW A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY IN AREAS THAT SEEM TO BE DESIGNATED ON THE FLOOD FOR INDUSTRIAL. 
          I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TELL ME, BUT THOSE AREAS JUST PREDATE THE FLUM OR, UH, I MEAN, IS THAT ACCURATE? CAN YOU JUST ADVISE, CAUSE I TAKE IT THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF STAFF'S OPPOSITION COMES FROM, UH, UH, REZONING THIS TO BE RESIDENTIAL INSIDE THAT DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL AREA. 
          UM, LET ME TRY TO PULL UP THE ZULU MAP. 
          UM, SO I SEE SOME RURAL RESIDENTIAL, SOME LIMITED 
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INDUSTRIAL, SOME CSE LIMITED INDUSTRIAL FUSION OVERLAY. 
          I'M NOT ACTUALLY SEEING WHERE HE IS SEEING THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          UH, I'M SAYING YOU SEE IT ON THE GROUND, NOT ON THE ZONING MAP TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THERE. 
          THERE'S A LARGE SUBDIVISION AS PART OF A POD, I GUESS. 
          AND THEN TO THE WEST, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET ME, I HAVE TO CHECK SOME, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS, LET ME PULL UP THAT, UM, PLUM OR WAITING IF I COULD HAVE THE AAV STAFF PULL UP THE, UH, THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE PARKLAND, UH, CONCEPTUAL IMPROVEMENTS AND SHERIFF  INSTEAD OF DIVISION REGRESSING SUBDIVISION IS BERNSON AND SOUTHWEST PARKWAY IS ON HIS BIRTHDAY. 
          IT'S A RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF THAT. 
          AND HE WAS WINNING WITH WITHIN THE INDUSTRIALS. 
          THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. 
          SURE. 
          IF YOU CAN REPEAT THE EXHIBIT YOU'RE REQUESTING, UH, IT WAS THE, UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES IN THE APPLICANT'S DECK THAT HAS SHOWS THE GREEN AREA WITH SOME TRAILS IS THE PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT. 
          IS THAT THE CRUX LINE? YES, THAT IS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO ACTUALLY THIS SLIDE SHOWS SOME OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE TO THE EAST, THERE THERE'S A, WHAT APPEARS TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION THERE. 
          AND THEN I BELIEVE THE AREA JUST DUE SOUTH W UH, OR WEST OF THE, OF THE LAND IS, UM, ON, UH, ALSO FRONTING BEEN WHITE IS AS A CSV ZONING. 
          UM, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF DURING THAT PLANNING PROCESS, UM, Y DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THAT SUBDIVISION THAT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WAS NOT GIVEN SINGLE FAMILY LAND JUICE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, THAT IF THE THOUGHT WAS, UM, IF IT'S TO WHERE THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, THE THOUGHT WAS, THAT SHOULD TRANSITION TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN SEATTLE FAMILY. 
          UM, SO, UM, I REALLY APOLOGIZE TO CUT YOU OFF. 
          I JUST I'M LIMITED ON MY TIME. 
          UM, BUT I THINK I GET IT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. MEREDITH. 
          UH, SO THE APPLICANT, UM, I JUST WANT CLARITY ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION HERE. 
          THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT REFLECTS THE EARLY DETERMINATION LETTER YOU HAVE FROM PART, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND DO I ALSO HAVE IT CORRECT THAT CARSON CREEK IS THE BOUNDARY OF THE PORTION OF THIS LOT THAT YOU ARE PURCHASING? SO WHAT WE WOULD SEE THROUGH DEDICATION OF THIS IS THE PARKLAND ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF CARSON CREEK, AND THAT THE SOUTHERN PART WOULD NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY WHOEVER OWNS THAT PART OF THE PARCEL. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THIS IS MACK, THE APPLICANT THAT IS INCORRECT. 
          UM, WE ARE CARSON CREEK FORMS, THE BOUNDARY, THE 18 PLUS ACRES THAT, UH, WE ARE REZONING, BUT THAT IS PART OF 40 ACRES THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE. 
          SO THE ENTIRETY OF THE PARKLAND, YOU SEE ILLUSTRATED BALD WITHIN THE LAND THAT WE CONTROL AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEDICATE AS PARKS. 
          RIGHT. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I ASSUME SOME OF THAT IS FLOOD PLAIN, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE DEDICATING AN EXCESS OF, OF WHAT IS LIKELY REQUIRED BY CODE. 
          WELL, AN ACCIDENT THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE, THERE IS SOME FLOOD PLAIN, BUT THERE'S ALSO, UH, UH, AREA OUTSIDE, PLENTY OF BARE AMPLE AREA OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH IS WHERE THE TRAILS ARE ILLUSTRATED. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, IT'S JUST AN EARLY DETERMINATION LETTER, BUT, UM, UH, ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THAT, UM, PART IS GOING TO BE PRETTY RETICENT TO, TO SHRINK THAT, UH, THAT LAND. 
          UM, IF YOU DO GET THIS A REZONING. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'LL OPEN UP TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS, 
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QUITE SEE EVERYONE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AROUND ROBIN COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL? GO AHEAD. 
          YES, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. 
          UM, I REMEMBER A CASE OF, UM, INDUSTRIAL GOING TO MULTIFAMILY SOMETIME LAST YEAR. 
          AND AT THAT POINT, UM, STAFF SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START DOING SOME RESEARCH, UM, ON THE LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL LAND GOING TO RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF, UM, THIS, UH, RECOMMENDATION BY STAFF IS STEMMING FROM THAT, OR IF IT'S, UM, JUST IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER RESEARCH, THAT'S GIVING MORE METRICS BEHIND HOW MUCH INDUSTRIAL LAND IS BEING LOST, UM, AND WHERE, UM, IT NEEDS TO REMAIN. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE WHEN THIS, THIS IS WENDY RHODES, I CAN POTENTIALLY HELP OUT WITH THIS. 
          UH, YES, THERE IS A DRAFT STUDY REGARDING, UM, THE LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL ACREAGE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT STUDY HAS BEEN FINALIZED YET. 
          UM, YES. 
          AND YES, THAT, UM, THE CONTENTS OF THAT STUDY, UH, WERE PART OF THE BASIS FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO RECOMMEND THIS PARTICULAR ZONING AND NPA CASE. 
          IS THERE ANY MORE DETAIL YOU CAN PROVIDE BEHIND THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A DRAFT? UH, I, I WOULD HAVE TO SEE IF IT'S ALREADY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          I HAVE SEEN A DRAFT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN, UH, FINALIZED OR IF IT'S, UH, WHERE IT GOES FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM ITS DRAFT STATE, UH, THAT WAS DONE AS PART OF THE LONG RANGE PLANNING GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS, UM, AS YOU SAID, FINALIZED TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, IT WILL BE CIRCULATED OUTSIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON AND HAVE ANDREW REPORT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER. 
          YEAH. 
          DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE THE OUTCOMES FROM THAT REPORT TO HELP US IN CASES LIKE THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SHARE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. 
          UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS, UM, JUST TO CONFIRM AND KNOW, OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED A NOTE, BUT THERE THERE'S NO HAZARDOUS. 
          AND DO YOU KNOW THIS SITE? UH, YES. 
          THIS IS WENDY RHODES. 
          THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT DID NOT IDENTIFY WITH LOCATING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS, BOTH USE OFF THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, I KNOW THAT THIS IS OUTSIDE OFF THE OGLEBAY, THE AIRPORT OVERLAY. 
          IS THERE ANY SORT OF CONSIDERATION CONCERNED ON EXPANSION OF THAT OVER MAKING DO WHERE THIS HOUSING MIGHT BE BUILT? IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS, I AM UNAWARE OF A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE BOUNDARIES. 
          HOWEVER, IF ONE WERE ADOPTED AND INCLUDED THIS PROPERTY, UH, THE APPLICABILITY OF LET'S SAY NOISE LEVEL REDUCTION, MEASURE MEASURES FOR APARTMENT UNITS. 
          UM, THOSE WOULD DEPEND ON WHETHER A PERMIT APPLICATION SUCH AS A SITE PLAN HAD BEEN FILED OR WHETHER THE DEVELOPER WAS, UM, PLANNING ON ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED EARLIER REGARDING, UM, PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF HERE ON, I THINK PERHAPS, UH, HOKEY LANE, UM, THOSE, THOSE WERE, UH, I THINK, I BELIEVE THOSE AREAS, UH, ARE IN THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE, AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON WHY THEY WERE NOT GRANTED, UM, SINGLE FAMILY ON THE FLUM. 
          THEY WERE DESIGNATED AS SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, I WAS, UH, I WAS PART OF THE PLANNING EXERCISE THAT OCCURRED WITH THE SOUTHEAST PLAN BACK IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. 
          AND THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UM, I'LL GO AHEAD. 
          AND, UH, I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. 
          DOES ANYONE WISH TO SECOND QUARTER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? UM, 
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I'LL JUST SPEAK TO MY MOTION. 
          UH, I'M JUST, UH, REALLY ACTUALLY QUITE ECSTATIC ABOUT THE, UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ON THIS SITE. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT CONNECTIVITY TO THE MED CENTER TRAILS, UH, DEDICATION IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          UM, OF COURSE WE CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, BUT THE, UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, I THINK REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE, THE TRAILINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND, AND THE SUGGESTION THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BIKING ON THE, UH, THE FURNITURE WOULD OF 71 AS A, AS A GOOD THING TO BE DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, IF THIS COULD FORM THE ALTERNATIVE, AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, THAT KIND OF PARALLEL 71, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. 
          AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT CONSIDER, WELL, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL LAND. 
          UM, THE, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE SITE REMAINS INDUSTRIAL, AND IT'S THE PART OF THE SITE THAT IS ACTUALLY ADJACENT TO THE OTHER LIMITED INDUSTRIAL IN THE AREA. 
          SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR THAT PERHAPS TO STAY AS INDUSTRIAL WHILE THIS GOES RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD PROJECT, AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE GREEN SPACE BEING PRESERVED THERE ALONG THE CREEK. 
          WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK AT AN OPPOSITION OR NEUTRAL SPEAKING, DUDE, I THINK I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS. 
          THAT BEING SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S ISSUE WITH US KIND OF DISPOSING A MORE INDUSTRIAL LAND HERE. 
          UM, STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO GET US A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PARCELS OF LAND IN THE CITY THAT ARE DESPERATE TO BE HOUSING ON GREAT BUS LINES AND MAJOR CORRIDORS, AND A LOT OF PLACES THAT MAKE POSSIBLY MORE SENSE THAN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          YOU COULD LOOK AT IT INSTEAD OF ON A HIGHWAY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE RULES LIKE COMPATIBILITY. 
          IT DOESN'T OTHER RULES ARE A THOUSAND OF THE RULES TO PREVENT A LOT OF PARCELS THAT REALLY SHOULD BE HOUSING FROM BEING HOUSING. 
          AND SO THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PICKED OVER A LOT OF THE GOOD SITES AND THERE JUST AREN'T MANY GOOD SITES LEFT. 
          AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO START CHEWING UP INDUSTRIAL SPACE WHERE YOU SEE MORE HOMES ON HIGHWAYS. 
          AND UNTIL WE HAVE A LANDED ON THE CODE THAT ALLOWS FOR RESPONSIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT, I GUESS THIS IS GOING TO BE OUR FIGHT. 
          IT'S JUST THE REAL SALMON HE COMMISSIONERS. 
          I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, MR. THOMPSON, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M JUST LOOKING OUT AT THE SITE AND DRIVING BY. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD, THERE ARE HALF A DOZEN BRAND NEW HOTELS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED. 
          HOTEL IS A ALLOWED USE IN AN INDUSTRIAL SITE, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A FACTORY THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET SOME SORT OF INDUSTRIAL USE. 
          IT'S JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A HOTEL, JUST LIKE THE ONES ALL ALONG THAT STRETCH OF ROAD CRUSHERS, WE WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL CRUSHERS. 
          WE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR TERMS. ARGO HAS THE LAST SPEAKER. 
          UM, I THINK I WANT TO REPACK THE APPLICANT IS CONSIDERED AFFORDABILITY ASPECT, AND I ADOPTED THEM EARLIER. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THEY'RE NOW 5% AND 65% OF 80%. 
          I'M A FIVE AS IT CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE. 
          I HOPE A GOOD TO COUNCIL. 
          THEY MIGHT CONSIDER IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO GO TO ALL DENPASAR AND 60% OF A FIVE 40 YEARS, UM, AND SAID THAT I DO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. 
          THEY REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          LAST SPEAKER AGAINST OR NEUTRAL IS THAT LET'S TAKE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF GRANTING THE APPLICATION, UM, AS FILED GO GREEN. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT'S UNANIMOUS 10 ZERO. 
          UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CASE. 
          [Items B5 & B6]
D FIVE AND D SIX TOGETHER, 1103 WEST 24TH STREET. 
          UM, AS MEREDITH, WE STILL HAVE YOU ON THE LINE. 
          THIS IS MAUREEN MEREDITH. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          NCA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 9.01. 
          PROPERTY IS ONE, ONE ZERO THREE WEST FOURTH STREET IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL AUSTIN COMBINED WESTOVER CITY SEVEN AREA. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE PICTURE OF MANDY SMITH OFFICE. 
          IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE CAMPATH NEIGHBORHOODS NAME, CONTACT YOU AND CASE REPORTS. 
          THERE WERE LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION. 
          UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
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GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, DO WE HAVE MR. GRAHAM? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KENNEDY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MARK GRAHAM FOR PLANNING AND ZONING ON CASEY 14, 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO SIX AT 1103 WEST 24TH STREET. 
          THE EXISTING ZONING IS GEO C O N P. 
          AND THE REQUEST IS FOR G R M U B N P. 
          THE CURRENT USE IS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES CLASSROOMS AND MEETING SPACE. 
          THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE THOSE USES PLUS THE POTENTIAL OF ADDING, ADDING SERVICE AND RETAIL TENANTS, AS WELL AS SLEEPING QUARTERS FOR STUDENTS, THE APPLICANTS, THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS AND THEIR INSTITUTIONAL NEIGHBORS ARE GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT ABOUT SUPPORTING THE REZONING REQUEST THE COMMUNITY, EXCUSE ME, OUR DISTRICT ADDS RETAIL AND SERVICE USE ENTITLEMENTS TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWED BY THE REQUESTED AND YOU COMBINING DISTRICT RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ALREADY COMMON ALONG WEST 24TH STREET. 
          THE APPLICANT REQUESTED REMOVING THE CONDITIONS, UM, THAT LIMITED BUILDING HEIGHT TO 35 FEET. 
          UM, NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE PROPOSED GR, UH, BUT WE'RE LESS CONCERNED AFTER STAFFING. 
          THE AGENT EXPLAINED COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP THE HEIGHTS BELOW THE MAXIMUM AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE APPLICANT THROUGH THEIR AGENT DEVELOPED A CEO THAT WOULD PROHIBIT TWO LAND USES CLUB OR LODGE AND A COMMUNITY RECREATION. 
          PRIVATE THE APPLICATION ALSO AGREED TO DRAFT A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. 
          AND IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT, PLEASE ASK THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, THE VERTICAL MIXED USE BERLIN IS THE REMAINING ISSUE. 
          AS WE SEE IT, STAFF HAS OFFERED AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT INCLUDES THE  P UH, WITHOUT THE, THE, THE BASIS FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT IS HISTORICALLY SONY HAS ONLY BEEN RECOMMENDED ON A NEARLY ON CORE TRANSIT OR FUTURE TRANSIT CORRIDORS. 
          UM, THE, UH, WEST 24TH STREET IS A LEVEL IS SAY A MINORITY LAMAR IS THE CLOSEST CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR TO THIS LOCATION. 
          THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND DO WE HAVE MS. BOGGIO FOR THE APPLICANT? THIS IS REALLY ABOUT JOE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS MY PRESENTATION OKAY. 
          IT IS. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT TO JUST CALL OUT THE SLIDE NUMBERS? THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          AND SAY NEXT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, MAKE SURE IT TURNED ON YOUR TV. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO I'M ONLY ABOUT JOE HERE WITH JENNER GROUP REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, THE TEXAS INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION CONSORTIUM. 
          ON NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          I'M GOING TO MOVE FAIRLY QUICKLY THROUGH THESE. 
          UM, I THINK YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT, UH, OVER OF AN OVERVIEW. 
          UM, SO WE'RE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 24TH STREET BETWEEN LAMAR AND GUADELOUPE, UT AND UT. 
          THE CROSS STREET IS, UH, LEON STREET. 
          UM, AND AS YOU NOTICED, THE 24TH STREET IS THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE UNO OVERLAY DISTRICT. 
          UM, 21ST STREET IS A LEVEL THREE MOBILITY CORRIDOR IN THE SMP. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CORRIDOR IS CURRENTLY BEING STUDIED TO INCLUDE, UM, SAFETY AND MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE MULTIPLE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING DRIVING, WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT, UH, ONTO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. 
          UM, HERE A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE, HOW THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY SITUATED ON THE SITE, AS WELL AS STRUCTURES NEARBY. 
          UM, IN PARTICULAR, YOU CAN SEE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTHWEST THAT DO TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY, WHICH WE WOULD BE COMPLIANT WITH. 
          UH, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS JUST A SORT OF A HELPFUL VIEW. 
          THIS IS A VIEW, UM, FROM NORTH LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS 24TH STREET, OUR SITE IS THE ONE ON THE FAR CORNER ON THE RIGHT SIDE. 
          UM, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DEVELOP IS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE FAR LEFT CORNER, UH, WHICH IS A 60 FOOT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING X SIDE, UH, SIDE FIVE HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING MAP. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE BASE DISTRICTS AGAIN, I'M ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 24TH IS THE OVERLAY, WHICH, UM, WHICH, WHICH DOESN'T SHOW ON HIS OWN MAP. 
          BUT, UM, BUT I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW VERY WELL. 
          AND ON SLIDE SIX, UH, JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO REMOVE. 
          UM, THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS, IS A PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THAT. 
          UM, THOSE PROHIBITED USES ARE NOT THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON USING ON THE SITE FOR PRESIDENTIAL, I THINK HAS ACTUALLY BEEN DEEMED, UH, AN UNENFORCEABLE REGULATION DUE TO FAIR HOUSING, UH, AND THEN, UM, CALLED THEIR LODGE AND COMMUNITY RECREATION, PRIVATE. 
          UM, I KNOW THERE ARE 
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SOME NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE, ARE THAT WILL REQUEST THAT THOSE BE PROHIBITED. 
          WE'RE FINE. 
          IF YOU DESIRE TO ADD THOSE TO A CONDITIONAL RELAY, UM, WE'RE FINE EITHER WAY. 
          WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON USING THOSE USES. 
          UM, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE SEVEN, YOU CAN SEE, AS MARK SAID, SORT OF THE MIX OF USES ALONG 24TH STREET, UM, WE ARE REQUESTING OUR FORM DESIGNATION BE CHANGED FROM OFFICE TO MIXED USE. 
          UM, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE EIGHT, UM, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR SITE AND THE PROPOSAL. 
          UM, SO THE, THE FACE ABOUT JUST UNDER, UM, 0.7 ACRES, UM, IT IS A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING OFFICE BUILDING TODAY. 
          IT WAS BUILT IN 1962, AND IT IS A NEED OF, OF PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REPAIR, UM, TAKE, UM, IS PROPOSING TO INCLUDE THE MIX OF THEIR OWN OFFICE REMAINING ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE REDEVELOPED BUILDING. 
          AND THEN ALSO HAVE A VISION OF INCLUDING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY ABOVE THAT THEY WOULD MARK IT TO THEIR OWN, TO THE STUDENTS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY WORK WITH. 
          I THINK ROBIN LERNER, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO CEO, WE'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT TO YOU ABOUT THAT, UM, AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS. 
          UM, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES OF THIS, UH, REQUEST IS TO KNOW THAT THIS BUILDING IS LEGALLY NOT COME FORTH, EXCUSE ME, CONFIRMING, WHICH MEANS THEY COULD NOT GO BACK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY HAVE TODAY. 
          AND IT'S ALSO IN SIGNIFICANT NEED OF REPAIR. 
          UM, AND, AND WHICH IS WHAT IS SORT OF DRIVING THIS REQUEST AT THIS POINT, AS THEY KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES SOON, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE NINE, UM, THIS IS JUST THE SUMMARY SIDE WE ARE REQUESTING, UM, TO GO FROM GOC O N P TO G R M U V N P. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF OUR REQUEST. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THE FORM GOING FROM OFFICE TO MIXED USE, UM, SLIDE 10 SHOWS, JUST, UM, SORT OF A COMPARISON OF WHAT THE CURRENT BUILDING LOOKS LIKE, UM, WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, ZONING ALLOWS, WHAT THE REQUEST IS ZONING ALLOWS, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME LITTLE STARS THERE TO SHOW, UM, WHICH ENTITLEMENTS WOULD BE REQUESTED, WHICH ARE AFFECTED BY THE REQUESTED V UH, DMU OVERLAY. 
          UM, FINALLY ON SLIDE 11, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE, UM, THE SUPPORT OF EVERYONE. 
          WE HAVE THE SUPPORTIVE, UM, THE WEST UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          WE HAVE THE SUPPORTIVE KIM PACK. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF UAP, WHICH I LEARNED AFTER CREATING THIS SLIDE. 
          AND THEN IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE 12, YOU'LL SEE. 
          AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE CASWELL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, AND THEY HAVE MADE SOME SPECIFIC REQUESTS. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE ARE AMENABLE TO THESE REQUESTS IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, AND I THINK THAT, UM, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT ORGANIZATION WILL, UM, AND SO TO SUMMARIZE ON 13, UM, WE DO HOPE TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR SUPPORT, YOUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR OUR REQUESTS SPECIFICALLY FOR GR M U V AND P. 
          UM, THAT D IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR REQUEST. 
          AND IT'S ALSO, UM, RIGHT. 
          UH, WHAT ENSURES THAT THIS SITE WOULD DEVELOP WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING BY PARTICIPATING IN THE VIEW, WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, UM, TO MAKE 10% OF THE UNIT AFFORDABLE AT 60% MSI. 
          AND WE WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED TO, UM, IMPROVE OUR STREETSCAPE, UM, WITH THAT I'LL CLOSE AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          WE HAVE, UM, I THINK, UH, ROBIN LEARNER, I THINK, UM, ARE YOU ON THE LINE HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? HELLO? I'M HERE. 
          YES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YOU HAVE A SIX MINUTES, SIX MINUTES OF WONDERFUL. 
          WELL, I WILL KEEP IT SHORT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE TIME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING. 
          I AM ROBIN LEARNER. 
          I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TEXAS INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION CONSORTIUM FOR THE PAST ALMOST THREE YEARS. 
          TAKE AS YOU CALL. 
          IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION. 
          NONPROFIT CREATED TO BE A NIMBLE PARTNER TO TEXAS UNIVERSITIES AND A CATALYST FOR INTERNATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS. 
          AND INTERESTINGLY, WE ARE UNLIKE ANY ORGANIZATION IN AUSTIN. 
          AND EVEN IN TEXAS, SINCE OUR FOUNDING 35 YEARS AGO, WE HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED AT 1103 WEST 44TH STREET IN WEST CAMPUS. 
          THIS IS OUR HOME. 
          OUR BUILDING IS A FORMER DORM AND IT WAS RETROFITTED INTO CLASSROOMS AND OFFICES. 
          WE HOST STUDENTS AND INTERNATIONAL GROUPS ON A VARIETY OF EDUCATIONAL AND CULTURAL DIPLOMACY PROGRAM. 
          IN FACT, WE'VE TAUGHT SOME 30,000 STUDENTS IN OUR BUILDING AND HOSTED COUNTLESS INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL GROUPS, AND ALL TOLD OUR PARTICIPANTS HAVE HELD FROM AROUND A HUNDRED DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 
          WE BUILT OUR MODEL AROUND PROXIMITY'S A UT AND THE VIBRANT CAMPUS CULTURE THAT EXISTS THERE. 
          IT IS A MAJOR ATTRACTION FOR OUR PARTICIPANTS. 
          AND IN ADDITION 
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TO OUR STUDENTS AND EXCHANGE VISITORS, OUR NONPROFIT TENANTS, GLOBAL AUSTIN, AND THE WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL OF AUSTIN USE OUR BUILDING FREQUENTLY TO HOST INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE VISITORS, BUSINESS PEOPLE, AND DIGNITARIES FOR TIME, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS SAYING IN PROXIMITY TO UT IS VITAL. 
          WE HOST NUMEROUS PROGRAMS ON CAMPUS AND INVOLVE UT FACULTY AND STAFF IN OUR PROJECTS. 
          AND OUR STUDENTS USE UT FACILITIES WITHOUT THAT PROXIMITY TYPE COULD VERY WELL LOSE THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND WOULD MOST DEFINITELY BECOME A WEAK COMPETITOR IN A CROWDED INTERNATIONAL EDUCATION AND DIPLOMACY SPACE, THUS ATTRACTING FEWER OF THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS TO AUSTIN. 
          ESSENTIALLY, LOCATION IS ALSO VITAL AS TRANSPORTATION IS A CONSIDERATION FOR PROGRAMMING IN AUSTIN. 
          WE CURRENTLY, AS YOU KNOW, ARE IN WALKING DISTANCE TO BUSES AND A NUMBER OF CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS THAT MAKE AUSTIN UNIQUE. 
          AND WE UTILIZE THOSE IN OUR PROGRAM WITH THE COST OF OUR PROPERTY. 
          IN THIS AREA, WE SEE ZERO POSSIBILITY OF STAYING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IF WE HAVE TO LEAVE 1103 WEST 24TH, UNFORTUNATELY, AS LEAH MENTIONED, AS I LOOK AT OUR BUILDING TODAY, I SEE A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE IN DESPERATE DECLINE IN DISREPAIR. 
          IT IS A BUILDING TO CRUMBLING TO INVEST IN. 
          AND WHILE I SEE THE REAL POSSIBILITY AND POTENTIAL TO BECOME AN ASSET TO THE CITY, A HUB FOR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS AND CONVENINGS, OUR BUILDING TURNS PEOPLE AWAY RATHER THAN INVITING THEM IN. 
          AND WE ARE HESITANT TO INVITE TOO MANY PEOPLE IN BECAUSE OF THE STATE OF THE BUILDING. 
          THIS LEAVES ME FEELING VERY ALONE WITH NO OPTIONS AND THE FUTURE OF TECH WRAPPED UP IN THE DIRECTION WE GO WITH OUR BUILDING. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WITH PROPERTY IMPOSSIBLE TO AFFORD ANYWHERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR ONLY OPTION IS TO REDEVELOP OUR BUILDINGS SO THAT WE CAN STAY. 
          SO WITH THIS LOADING REQUEST, WE HOPE TO REALIZE OUR VISION, TO HAVE A FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHERE WE CAN KEEP INTERNATIONALIZATION STRONG AND WEST CAMPUS AND KEEP AUSTIN AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR THESE KINDS OF PROGRAMS. NOW, HOUSING IS ONE OF THE GREATEST CHALLENGES WE HAVE ON HOSTING INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS, INCREDIBLY COSTLY AND HARD TO FIND A SPACE THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR OUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMS. IF WE HAVE SPACE THAT ACCOMMODATES HOUSING ABOVE OUR OFFICE SPACE, WE DO HOPE TO HOST TO HOUSE OUR INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMS ON SITE WITHOUT NEW ZONING TYPE WILL VERY LIKELY ACTUALLY WILL. 
          WE'LL DEFINITELY BE FORCED TO SELL AND MOVE OUT. 
          I CANNOT AFFORD TO REPAIR A BUILDING, UM, AND B ARE LOOKING AT REPAIRS IMMEDIATELY, AND THE CURRENT LIMITATIONS PREVENT DEVELOPMENT AS IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE EYESORE ON THAT CORNER AND PROVIDE SOMETHING UNIQUE AND VALUABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR CITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE ONE SPEAKER, UH, TRESSIE DAMRON WHO DOESN'T WISH TO SPEAK UNLESS WE HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          UH, MIKE MCKONE, UH, YOU'RE THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST? ARE YOU HERE WITH US? CAN HIT STAR SIX. 
          HI. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, MIKE, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          I MIGHT MCALLEN VICE-PRESIDENT UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS WERE EXCITED TO JOIN OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, AND SUPPORTED THIS. 
          AND, UH, MY WIFE WAS A TEACHER. 
          THAT'S A PROGRAM TEACHES STUDENTS, UH, UH, ENGLISH LANGUAGE SKILLS, UH, SOME 35 YEARS AGO OR FOUR MORE. 
          IT WAS A THAT'S YOUR HOUSE. 
          AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEIR PROGRAMS. UM, I COULD SAY, I THINK THE STAFF OF THE PRESENTATIONS YOU'VE HAD SO FAR ARE VERY ACCURATE. 
          UH, LEAH HAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, VMU, UH, AFFORDABILITY AND SHE MENTIONED THE 60% AFFORDABILITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT UAP VOTED TO SUPPORT AT OUR BOARD MEETING TODAY. 
          SO SUPPORT WITH A 60% DMU, UH, COMPONENT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION. 
          AND I'LL TURN IT BACK TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO YOU WISH TO CLOSE, UH, I THINK I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONNAIRES ON THE QUESTION? UM, I'LL START OFF A QUESTION, I GUESS I'D FIRST LIKE TO HEAR FROM, UM, UH, MR. GRAHAM, AND THEN MAYBE MS. BOGGIO AS WELL. 
          UH, ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A TOPIC THAT WE'VE DELVED INTO A COUPLE OF TIMES HERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, UM, REQUIREMENT THAT THE V UH, OR THE IT'S ALMOST A, WELL AT THE TIME, I GUESS IT WAS A REQUIREMENT DURING THE OPTIN FORMULA UPZONING, UH, OR TO APPLY THE V WOULD ONLY BE APPLIED UPON, UH, CORE TRANSIT CORRIDORS, FUTURE TRANSIT 
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CORRIDORS, UM, AND, UH, THAT, THAT WAS WHAT WAS USED FOR THE FORMULA ZONING, BUT THAT CODE WAS KIND OF SILENT ON, UH, AND IS SILENT. 
          THERE WAS NO PROHIBITION WITHIN THE CODE ON, UH, ON OFFERING THE VISA ZONING THAT IS NOT ADJACENT TO THOSE CORRIDORS. 
          AND OF COURSE THOSE, THOSE QUARTERS HAVE CHANGED. 
          UM, EVEN, UH, THEY DON'T EVEN REFLECT THE TRANSIT MAP THAT, UM, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS JUST ADOPTED. 
          UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS A BIT OF A CONFUSING ISSUE, GO FIGURE WITH OUR OLD CODE AND, AND IT NEEDS TO, UH, IT COULD USE SOME CLEARING UP. 
          UM, BUT I KNOW THE STAFF HAS, AS RECENTLY AS OUR LAST MEETING, UH, SUPPORTED A V DESIGNATION ON A BUILDING THAT WAS NOT, UH, RIGHT ON A CORRIDOR WHEN THEY MADE THAT, UH, PART OF THE CODE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, BY, BY ALL KIND OF COMMON SENSE IS ON A CORRIDOR NOW. 
          UM, SO, UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE STAFF DISCUSSION ON, ON THAT V AND, AND WHY MAYBE SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT ON THOSE CORRIDORS HAVE QUALIFIED FOR IT, UH, AND GOTTEN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR IT, BUT THIS ONE DID NOT. 
          I'M TRICIA TENNEY IN COMMISSION MARTIN FOR THE STAFF. 
          I HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT HISTORY HERE AT AUSTIN. 
          SO I'M GOING WITH, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS HISTORICALLY, UM, AS YOU STATED, THESE OFFERED ON CORE TRANSIT CORRIDORS AND FUTURE TRANSIT QUARTERS. 
          UM, I HAD A CASE ON, UH, OLD KENDIG LANE THAT WAS ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO A PROPERTY ON LAMAR. 
          UM, BUT THAT ALREADY HAD THE VISA ZONING. 
          WE RECOMMENDED THE V BE EXTENDED ONTO THAT PROPERTY. 
          THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONE YOU RECALL. 
          UM, SO I SEE THAT AS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT I'M WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE NEW CODE ADDRESS THIS, SO THAT IT'S MORE CLEAR WHERE THE V CAN BE OFFERED. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND, UH, WAS BOGGIO, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE, UM, WHAT KIND OF TRANSIT ACCESS THIS SITE HAS? I MEAN, UH, THE CORE CORRIDORS ARE PRETTY OLD ARE OF, UH, THE CITY PLANNING THEY'RE, THEY'RE ARGUABLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT IRRELEVANT. 
          UM, DOES, DOES THE SITE THAT YOU'RE AT, DOES, DOES IT HAVE GOOD TRANSIT NOW? UM, HOW DOES, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW CLOSE IS IT TO TRANSIT THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH PROJECT CONNECT, ET CETERA, CAN YOU TELL US, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE CAN THINK OF THIS LOCATION AS BEING CLOSE TO A TRANSIT CORRIDOR OR NOT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, SO, SO THE TRANSIT ACCESS IN THIS AREA IN GENERAL IS VERY GOOD. 
          THERE IS NOT TRANSIT ACCESS ON 24TH STREET ITSELF TODAY. 
          HOWEVER, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE IS A MOBILITY STUDY IN THE WORKS TO LOOK AT, UM, AT OTHER MODES OF, OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION BEING ADDED TO 20 WEST 24TH STREET. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT THE V IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THAT MAKES THIS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR IT IS FIRST OF ALL, IT IS JUST SOUTH OF THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY, AS I DISCUSSED, UM, THE VMU OVERLAY ALLOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALLOWS SOME INCREASE IN DENSITY, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, WHICH I KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING, AND THE VMU PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE BEST PROGRAMS WE HAVE FOR ENSURING THAT WE GET AFFORDABILITY IN A PUBLIC RESTRICTION. 
          UH, AND THE OTHER GREAT ADVANTAGE TO THE VMU OVERLAY IS THAT IT REQUIRES AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE STREETSCAPE. 
          AS I UNDERSTAND IT ABOVE WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED THROUGH SUBCHAPTER E UH, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS PART OF TOWN AND WEST 24TH STREET IN PARTICULAR IS HIGHLY, UM, PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED. 
          AND SO I THINK, UM, BETWEEN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE STREETSCAPE, IN ADDITION TO THE JUST OVERALL, GENERALLY GOOD TRANSIT LOCATION, UM, I THINK IT'D BE AS A VERY APPROPRIATE, UH, USE FOR THE SITE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. ANDERSON, GO AHEAD. 
          MOVE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANTS RECOMMENDS APPLICATION. 
          SO THAT IS FOR BOTH ITEMS, B FIVE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT, AND B SIX, THE REZONING AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT PREPPER. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT PUBLIC HEARING? CAN I FIRST GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? CHRIS'S MOTION BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU A MISS ONE DAY. 
          I'LL GET THAT RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER AND FOR THE PLANET AND MET WITH A STOOD REZONE, MAYBE APPLE CHERRY. 
          YOU'RE BREAKING UP ON US. 
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YOU'VE MANAGED LET'S LET'S GIVE HIM A MINUTE OR TWO. 
          YOU CAN SORRY, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME STAND BY JUST A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WAIT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WE'RE COMING. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S PIMPLE, UH, CONSTRAINTS, AND YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. 
          I DO, UM, TYPE IS AN AMAZING ORGANIZATION. 
          I HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE OF MEETING WITH MISS LEARNER AND TOURING THE BUILDING ABOUT A YEAR AGO, PRE PANDEMIC. 
          AND YEAH, HER FOR BUILDING IS ROUGH FOR BRILLIANCE IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE. 
          AND SHE WAS SHARING WITH ME KIND OF THE FRUSTRATIONS OF A CEO, DEALING WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE. 
          YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT NAMES THAT IS REALLY REARING ITS UGLY HEAD. 
          ONCE YOU HAVE AN OLD BUILDING LIKE THAT, UM, THEY GET REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE AND IT'S OUTDATED AND THEY SERVE JUST SO MANY WONDERFUL INTERNATIONAL PEOPLE AND THAT THAT'S JUST SUCH A GREAT HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I'M PRETTY DISAPPOINTED WITH STAFFS, BUT I FEEL IT'S PRETTY HORRIBLE INTERPRETATION OF CODE RIGHT HERE. 
          UM, SEEMS LIKE A FLIMSY REASON NOT TO RECOMMEND THIS. 
          COULD'VE GONE PRETTY EASILY. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY STAFF LOOKS AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE HAVE VERY FEW TOOLS IN THIS TERRIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE VERY FEW TOOLS WE HAVE. 
          AND SO TO HAVE EXCUSES OF WHY NOT TO USE IT MORE AND MORE PLACES, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THOSE EXCUSES. 
          WE NEED MORE HOUSING ANYMORE, INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT CAN ACTUALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AS I MOVE CLOSER TO MY ROUTER AS A THERE, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION WAS JUST NEUTRALLY OR AGAINST STEPPING ON CHILD TOYS. 
          PARENTHOOD IS ALL ABOUT, UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, OTHER QUESTIONS, WHAT DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? GO AHEAD. 
          I WILL JUST SAY, AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABILITY AND THE COMMITMENT TO THE VMU 10% OF THE GUYS AT 60%. 
          I'M A FOR 40 YEARS, WHICH I THINK GETS AT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN OTHERS. 
          I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON THAT AND I HEARD IT'S NOT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEFINITELY THERE. 
          IF THE PROJECT IS CONTINGENT ON THAT REQUIREMENT OF THE 60% OF THE FIVE PORTABILITY AND THE, HE ALLOWS YOU TO GET THERE. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT IN THERE, WHICH IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN ALSO THE COMMITMENT TO WRITE AND SPEAK. 
          I'LL SPEAK NEUTRALLY ON IT. 
          JUST THE, UM, UH, I WANT TO OFFER A SYMPATHETIC NOTE TO TWO STAFF AND, AND THAT I KNOW THAT OUR CODE FULL OF THIS DIGITAL CRUFT AND, UH, I THINK, AND, UM, UH, I, I, IT'S, IT'S A WEIRD DESIGNATION. 
          UM, I HOPE THAT, UH, WE CAN START APPROACHING WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME, SOME NEW TRANSIT CORRIDORS IN THE CITY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK FURTHER THAN JUST OUT THEIR DOOR FOR, UH, FOR TRANSIT. 
          SO, UM, IF IT'S A WALL ELIGIBLE FOR A VA, SO, UM, MY SYMPATHIES GO, UM, ALRIGHT. 
          ANY FINAL COMMISSIONER'S MISSION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? ANY FINAL COMMISSIONERS WISHING CERTAINLY, UM, HEARING NONE. 
          UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD. 
          TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION, WHICH IS FOR THE NPA PLUS THE APPLICANT NATION FOR APPLICANT REQUEST FOR THE, UH, AS WELL ALL IN FAVOR, GO GREEN. 
          AND I'VE LOST COMMISSIONER SEEGER AND COMMISSIONER FISHER SEEKERS, GREEN KRISHA GUYS, QUITO. 
          I CAN'T SEE, BUT I'LL UH, OH, THERE WE GO. 
          GREEN. 
          OKAY. 
          UNANIMOUS COMMISSION ALWAYS ON ANDREW. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUSH HER MR. RIVERA, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THAT, YOU KIND OF BROKE UP DURING THE MOTION. 
          THE MOTION WAS FOR THE NPA PLUS THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A REZONING, WHICH WAS STATED AT THE, AT THE OUTSIDE BY MR. ANDERSON. 
          AND, UH, SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          UM, I ALSO WANT TO JUST, UH, RECAP AND REPLYING TO BET, UM, ITEMS BE, WANT TO BE TOO, THAT WE PASSED. 
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UH, WE SPOKE ABOUT THEM AS, AS A, AS A JOINT, UH, THING DURING THE WHOLE EMOTION. 
          AND SO IF IT WASN'T CLEAR, CLEAR TO ME IS THE MOTION MAKER THAT, UM, WE WERE DOING THE WANT TO BE TWO TOGETHER. 
          UM, MR. THOMPSON. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO, WE'RE STILL LOSING YOU IN AN APOLOGIZED CUSHNER. 
          KASI. 
          DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER MAYBE FOR AWHILE? 
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WE'RE ON ITEM B NINE. 
          DO YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER LIST? I DO HAVE A SPEAKER LIST. 
          LET'S GO DO NINE. 
          AND THEN OUR, UH, SO BENIGN IS SEE, 1420, 1901 OH EIGHT PARKER HOUSE. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, UH, HEATHER, ARE YOU READY TO TAKE THIS ON MR.  STAR FROM HUNTER SMART STAR SIX CHAIR STAFF IS CALLING BACK IN, JUST BEAR WITH ME JUST ONE MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          STAFF REMINDER, SELECT STAR SIX. 
          MISSIONER STAND BY. 
          WE'RE WAITING ON THAT CALL BACK IN. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          AH, HE MAKE ONE TWICE ON THIS. 
          ALL OF THEM YOU'RE OUT. 
          THIS IS THE CASE HE 14 2019 ZERO ONE ZERO EIGHT PARKER HOUSE. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM G O H N P AND M F H N P, TO HAVING G O H N P ON THE CRUNCH TRACKED TRACK ONE AND MS. FOUR NP WITHOUT THE H ZONING ON THE REAR TRACK TRACK TWO AS AMENDED IT'S AT 24 OH FOUR RIO GRANDE STREET. 
          THE APPLICATION CAME IN WITH A PRETTY DIFFERENT REQUEST AND THE APPLICANT THOUGHT THAT THEY NEEDED TO SEE US AND YOU, OR GRM YOU TO ACHIEVE THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO ACHIEVE. 
          BUT AFTER WORKING ON IT FOR AWHILE, THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY CAN DO MOST OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE UNO OVERLAY. 
          SO NOW THE REQUEST IS TO ONLY REMOVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION FROM THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL ADJUST THE G O H N P BOUNDARY  AND P BOUNDARY. 
          THE, I THINK THE MAIN ITEM THAT'S STILL UP FOR DISCUSSION OR CONCERN IS STAFF IS SUPPORTING AN APPLICANT, IS REQUESTING A 10 FOOT SETBACK OFF OF THE PARKER HOUSE STRUCTURE, A PROPER HOUSE STRUCTURE. 
          AND THAT AREA WILL RETAIN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND THEN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A PARKING LOT AND SOME COVERED PARKING THAT WILL NO LONGER HAVE THE H DESIGNATION. 
          SO STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OF A 10 FOOT SETBACK AT A UNIVERSITY AT AREA PARTNERS IS ALSO SUPPORTING THAT. 
          AND TAM PACK IS SUPPORTING A 15 FOOT SETBACK. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, ME AND SKI ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS FROM STAFF AND THEN THE APPLICANT AND THE 
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REPRESENTATIVE FROM UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS. 
          IT'S ALSO AVAILABLE. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JEVON CHAIR, I THINK YOUR VIDEO HASN'T FLAKE, OR DO YOU WANT TO GIVE ANOTHER SHOT READY FOR THE ATHLETE? UM, MAYBE SEE IF I CAN LOCATE, I'M GOING TO SEE IF I CAN LOCATE IT, UH, STREAMING OFFENDERS IN MY, SHUT THEM DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING HERE. 
          SO, UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, MR. COLEMAN, ARE YOU ON COMMISSIONERS? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD. 
          AND MR. COLEMAN, THANK YOU. 
          YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I WON'T KEEP YOU SIX MINUTES. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          AND, UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE ON THIS CASE. 
          UM, AND THE APPLICANT DOES AS WELL. 
          WE'VE AMENDED OUR ORIGINAL ASS PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY, PARTLY, UH, MY URGING AND THE URGING OF, UH, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER, MIKE MCO NOW TO COME INTO THE FAMILY AND THIS APPLICANT, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE WISDOM OF DOING THAT. 
          UM, I, I GUESS WITH REGARDS TO THE 15 FOOT SETBACK, IT, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ME, TO, FOR ME TO REBUT WHAT HAS NOT, HAS NOT REALLY BEEN STATED. 
          UH, IT'S NOT. 
          THAT IS THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE. 
          THERE HASN'T REALLY BEEN A REASON GIVEN IT'S A WHY WE WOULD HAVE THE 10 OVER THE 15, THE 10 IS KIND OF STANDARD. 
          IT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS SEEN. 
          THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL HAVE ALWAYS SEEN. 
          IT'S IN THE FIRE CODE, IT'S SOMETHING SITE REVIEW PEOPLE WOULD WOULD SEE. 
          I JUST WANT TO STRESS TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS SIDE IS OWNED BY THIS FAMILY. 
          THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER PER SE. 
          I MEAN, HE DOES DO SOME DEVELOPMENT WITH HIS FAMILY LAND, BUT HE WANTS THE TOWER OR WHATEVER FORM OF HOUSING STRUCTURE GOES IN THE BACK UNDER UNO TO BE CLOSELY AFFILIATED WITH THIS HISTORIC BUILDING THAT IS IN HIS FAMILY. 
          HE DOESN'T WANT ANY PART OF THIS IDEA THAT THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE SHOULD SOMEHOW BE SET APART OR PROTECTED OR SOME SORT OF LITTLE MAZDA LIAM IN THE MIDDLE OF WEST CAMPUS. 
          HE WANTS STUDENTS AND PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE TO EXPERIENCE HIS FAMILY'S HISTORY AS PART OF A, WHATEVER THEY DO, A COFFEE SHOP OR THE ENTRANCEWAY TO THEIR DORMITORY OR THEIR APARTMENT BUILDING OR WHATEVER WE ULTIMATELY ARRIVE AT. 
          SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE GENTLY TO KIM PACK AND WITH RESPECT, WHAT I FEEL LIKE THEY KIND OF HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. 
          I MEAN, WHAT IS IT? WHAT'S THIS THE FIVE FEET, EXTRA FIVE FEET ACHIEVE IT. 
          CERTAINLY ISN'T GOING TO LOOK ANY DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE STANDING AT THE ENTRANCE OF RIO GRANDE, LOOKING UP AT THE SIDE, THIS WILL BE A TALL BUILDING. 
          AND I DON'T THINK FIVE FEET IN, IN THAT SENSE IS GOING TO LOOM, OR I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION IS, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY NETTING HOUSING POTENTIALLY UP TO A DOZEN BEDROOMS OUT OF, UM, OUT OF WEST CAMPUS AND WINDOW BEDROOM. 
          SO A SUBSTANTIAL BURDEN OF AFFORDABILITY THERE, THIS DEVELOPER. 
          SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY HIGH OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THOSE FIVE FEET. 
          I KEPT COURSE CANNOT GIVE YOU A NUMBER BECAUSE OF THAT STRESS. 
          WE DON'T ULTIMATELY KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN WILL LOOK LIKE OR HOW WE WILL INTERACT WITH OTHER LANDOWNERS IN, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT. 
          SO COULD WE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER AND THEN HAVE IT NOT BE TRUE, BUT THERE WAS NO CASE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE A SINGLE BEDROOM, NOT ONE. 
          AND I SENSE WE COULD BE LOSING OVER A DOZEN HERE. 
          IF WE STEPPED IT BACK AN EXTRA FIVE SEAT IT'S VERY NARROW SITE TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL, I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER A WELCOME US INTO NUNO. 
          AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ASSIST US IN FULL MAXIMIZING THOSE VALUES, WHICH YOU ALL SET FOR ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN YOU UPDATED THE UNO OVERLAY. 
          UM, I, I WOULD MEET THEM WITH A DISCUSSING IT 15 FEET, BUT SO FAR IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN A NUMBER GIVEN, AND WE ARE SURE TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE SITE AND TO ITS VALUES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. COLEMAN. 
          I'VE GOT MIKE MCCONEY SIGN UP AND SUPPORT. 
          MR. MCKOWN, ARE YOU ON STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES WHEN YOU GET ON MR. MORGAN. 
          I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU THERE FOR A MINUTE FOR A SECOND. 
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          MY SPEAKER TWO DIFFERENT THINGS SAYING I'VE JUST MUTED. 
          UH, THE UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS AS VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          UH, WE HAD WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE APPLICANT TO GO OVER ALL THE POSSIBILITIES AND THE BENEFITS OF OPTING INTO THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY, WHICH THEY HAVE AGREED TO THE 10 FEET, UH, AS, UM, MR. COLEMAN HAS EXPLAINED IS IN THE BARCODE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS, UH, UH, OLD AS IT IS, UH, A, THE, UH, GEO HAS A FIVE FOOT REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT OR REAR YARD REQUIREMENT. 
          SO THE FIRE CODE WOULD BE THE CODE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED IF EVERYBODY COULD BE OPENINGS TO THE NEW BUILDINGS ARE, UH, SO THE UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS THREE MONTHS AGO, OR TWO MONTHS AGO WROTE A LETTER IN SUPPORT. 
          AND THAT HAS BEEN REAFFIRMED, UH, SINCE THEN. 
          AND SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THIS POTENTIAL, UH, ONO PROJECT, UH, AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING. 
          WE KNOW THAT WHEN THEY WILL DO THIS, THEY WILL BE MAKING SOME, UH, UPGRADES TO AN OLDER BUILDING TO MAKE SURE IT'S KEPT UP. 
          AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE REAR. 
          AND SO WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS INPUT, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR THE, UH, DELINEATION BETWEEN THE TWO HISTORIC AND NON HISTORIC AREAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MCKOWN COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS I'VE GOT SIGNED UP. 
          MR. COLEMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? OKAY. 
          IF NOT, UH, COMMISSIONING, DO WE HAVE, ALRIGHT, CAN I START? IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECOND BY CHAIR, KENNY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR GREEN ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO CALL THAT H UH, CAN WE JUST FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE YOU CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK YOU'RE MUTED. 
          I'M GOING TO CALL THAT A MICHIANA IS BELIEVED THOUGH IS IN SARAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO MUSH, UH, UH, PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER SEEGER HAD PULLED THIS, SO I'M GONNA OFFER HER THE FIRST CHANCE TO ASK A QUESTION. 
          YOU FEEL LIKE WE'LL GET A SECRET CHANCE TO UNMUTE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          WHAT YOU'RE GETTING? UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UH, I, I THINK, UH, IT'S JEFF AND, UM, AND THEN MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, IF THE, UH, IF THE REZONING, IF THEY, IF THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH AND SUBDIVIDED THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND THEN SOUGHT THOSE, REZONINGS SUCH AS THAT TRACT ONE, UH, WAS GEO H M P, AND TRACK TWO WAS A SEPARATE LOSS FOR NP. 
          UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE REQUIRED SETBACK BETWEEN THOSE PROPERTIES? WOULD IT BE FIVE FEET, THE SIDE SETBACK, HEATHER CHAPMAN. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE. 
          AND THEN FOR AN INCUBATOR THAT BACK, YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DID YOU SAY FIVE FEET? YES. 
          FIVE FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IF THEY WENT THROUGH A SUBDIVISION HERE AND DAN DID THE REZONING, THAT THERE WOULD ONLY BE A FIVE FOOT REQUIRED DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT'S ASKING FOR 10, UH, I GUESS THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM IMPACT FOR 15 I'M, UH, I'M A LITTLE HAZY ON IF THAT WAS BASED ON THE ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WAS FOR 15 FEET AND UP CAMP PECK WAS ENDORSING THAT IT'S A LITTLE AWKWARD TO ME. 
          THAT CAMP PACK WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FIXATED ON 15 FEET AS A NUMBER VERSUS SOMETHING 
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ELSE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY THERE. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I DO THINK IT'S SIGNIFICANT THAT IF THESE WERE TWO LOTS NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THEY WOULD ONLY BE FIVE FOOT NEEDED BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE APPLICANT'S ASKING FOR 10. 
          SO I THINK I'M GOOD ON INTERNET CRISPR KASI, IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE BACK OVER 10 OF THEM, ARE THERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR WANT TO GO ON A ROUND ROBIN HERE? CHRIS ANDERSON, GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD QUESTION FOR STAFF, MR. SANOCKI, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE BY CHANCE, PATRICIA? I THINK WE'RE PICKING UP A LITTLE, UH, AUDIO THERE. 
          IF YOU COULD MEET YOURSELF. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          IF MR.  IS NOT ON THE LINE, MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE FROM STAFF TO ANSWER THIS. 
          UM, DID WE MAKE IT A HABIT OF ZONING PARKING LOTS HISTORIC? AND IF THAT IS STILL A HABIT, ARE WE LOOKING TO CHANGE THAT ANYTIME SOON? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE COULD MAYBE AVOID WHEN WE FIRST STARTED AS A NATION AND I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A, NEVER HAD GUESTS IN TOWN. 
          I REALLY WANT TO SHOW A BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC PARKING LOT THAT EXISTS, MR. SEDOWSKY IF YOU'RE THERE, YOU CAN HAVE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. 
          YES, I AM HERE. 
          RIGHT? GO AHEAD. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES. 
          IF YOU HAPPEN TO HEAR MY QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, I DIDN'T. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT IT? NO PROBLEM AT ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M GOOD TO HEAR VOICE, BY THE WAY. 
          I'M CURIOUS IF STAFF CONTINUES TO ZONE PARKING LOTS HISTORIC, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK TO STOP DOING? IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN POTENTIALLY ZONE STRUCTURES HISTORIC, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. 
          I FEEL LIKE THIS ISSUE COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME AND IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN KIND OF PREEMPTIVELY HAVE IT. 
          WELL, COMMISSIONER, THE WAY THAT HISTORIC ZONING WORKS IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE TRACT. 
          SO IF THE TRACT INCLUDES THE PARKING LOT ON IT IN THE PAST, THE ENTIRE TRACT WAS ZONED HISTORIC. 
          WHAT WE'VE DONE MORE RECENTLY IS LOOKED AT WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF LAND NECESSARY FOR ACCESS AND USE OF THE PROPERTY AND ACCORDANCE WITH THE TAX, THE TEXAS TAX CODE. 
          SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS WHERE ON PROPERTY, SUCH AS THOSE WHERE THERE'S EXTRANEOUS PROPERTY, NOT TO INCLUDE THAT IN HISTORIC ZONING. 
          THAT'S GREAT AS WE TRY AND BE MORE COMPACT AND CONNECTED, BUILD MORE EFFICIENTLY AND STABLY SAID TO KNOW, WE'RE THINKING THROUGH THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AROUND RED ROBIN, MR. SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD. 
          I NOTICED LAST WEEK THAT WHEN THIS WAS ON OUR DOCKET, IT WAS RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS AND THIS WEEK IT'S JUST RECOMMENDED. 
          AND I WONDER WHAT CONDITIONS CHANGED OR WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS, OR IF THAT WAS JUST A, UH, A DIFFERENCE WITHOUT A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY FOR A MISCHIEF VENDOR FOR SEBASTIAN. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONERS HEATHER CHAFFIN, THE ORIGINALLY STAFF, THE HISTORIC STAFF IN PARTICULAR RECOMMENDED A 15 FOOT SETBACK THAT AFTER FURTHER REVIEW CHANGED IT TO A 10 FOOT SETBACK. 
          AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE AGENDA WAS FINALIZED. 
          IT WAS, IT WAS UPDATED, CLOSE TO OUR DEADLINE LAST TIME. 
          SO YOU SAW SOME INFORMATION SHOWING THAT WE SUPPORTED IT WITHOUT CONDITIONS AND STUFF, WHERE WE SUPPORTED IT WITH THE CONDITION. 
          THANKS. 
          AND, UH, EITHER FOR, FOR YOU OR FOR MR. SEDOWSKY, I, I, I DIDN'T, WASN'T ABLE TO, WE LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION THAT THAT STORE COMMISSION HAD, BUT I NOTICED IT ABOUT WAS, UH, SEVEN ZERO. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS SPECIFIC ON THE DISTANCE FOR THE SETBACK, BUT COULD YOU MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION, THE DISTANCE THAT THEY DISCUSSED AND IF THERE WAS ANY RATIONALE BEHIND IT, THE CHAFFIN OVER YOUR HANDLE THAT, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, UH, ACTUALLY THE DISCUSSION AT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION REALLY DID NOT INVOLVE A DISCUSSION OF A DISTANCE AT ALL. 
          WHAT, UH, HAS WE TALKED, UH, WHEN THIS CASE WAS BEING OFFERED FOR CONSENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE COMMISSION'S CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WAS, UH, BUT THEY HAD REVIEWED AND APPROVED A BUILDING FOR THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          AND THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THE ENTIRE TRACK WAS ZONED HISTORIC. 
          NOW THEY WERE CONCERNED 
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THAT IF THAT, IF THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, WHICH WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED IS NOT THE ONE THAT GETS BUILT, THEY LOSE THEIR AUTHORITY, UH, TO REVIEW IT, APPROVE IT FOR A, A BUILDING THAT GOES BEHIND THIS HISTORIC HOUSE. 
          SO THAT WAS REALLY THE THRUST OF THEIR CONCERN. 
          UH, THEY DID NOT HAGGLE OVER 10 OR 15 FEET AS BEING AN APPROPRIATE DISTANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SO, UH, THE ACTION THAT, THAT, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING WOULD, UH, TAKE THE HISTORIC COMMISSION OUT OF THE LOOP ON ANY APPROVAL OF, UH, WHAT IS BUILT BEHIND THAT STOREHOUSE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SHALL GO AHEAD. 
          THIS IS FOR MR. SADOWSKY. 
          SO WHAT WOULD BE THE CONCERNS YOU THINK THE START COMMISSION, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT WAS DEVELOPED, HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE, UH, THE, UH, THE HOUSE THAT IS REMAINING HISTORIC. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE WITH FEELING LIKE THEY NEEDED TO REMAIN, HAVE SOME AUTHORITY STILL WELL COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME THAT THEY REVIEWED THE BUILDING THAT WAS PROPOSED LAST YEAR, IT WAS JUST THIS PARTICULAR TRACT. 
          SO THE SCALE OF THAT BUILDING WAS LIMITED JUST BY GEOGRAPHY AND THE SIZE OF BOTH BUILDING LOT. 
          NOW THAT THERE'S BEEN THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL ADJACENT, LOTS BEING ADDED TO IT. 
          THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING BEHIND THE HOUSE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE MUCH LARGER. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SEEKER, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I WAS DROPPED. 
          I COULD NOT GET BACK IN ON THE US SOUND. 
          UH, MOST OF MY ISSUES HAVE BEEN RAISED, I GUESS THE ONE WAS THE 10 TO 15 FOOT DIFFERENCE. 
          AND FROM THE, UH, RIGHT UP STEPS RIGHT UP FROM THE, UH, MR. , I GOT THE FEELING THAT 15 WAS THE USUAL AND 10 WAS THE UNUSUAL THAT I MISINTERPRET THAT MR.  NO, WE GENERALLY HAVE, UH, HAVE RECOMMENDED TIPPING FEET BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION FEELS IS A GOOD DISTANCE TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY AND THE CONTEXT OF A HISTORIC BUILDING. 
          UH, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS NOT CODIFIED ANYWHERE. 
          IT'S JUST, IT HAS BEEN A PRACTICE. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN OTHER CASES WHERE THEY'VE GONE TO 25 FEET. 
          IT JUST KINDA DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. 
          AND IN THIS CASE, IT INITIALLY STARTED OUT WITH 15, I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS DROPPED OFF THE, UM, WEBEX SEMINAR AND I DID NOT HEAR THE EXPLANATION. 
          WHY DID IT GO FROM 15 TO 10? WELL, BASICALLY WE, UH, WE AGREED WITH THE, UH, WOULD BE AGREEMENT BETWEEN A UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS ON THE APPLICANT, UH, AS BASED ON THE FIRE CODE LIMIT. 
          SO, UH, 10 FEET SEEMED TO BE INAPPROPRIATE LIMIT AND, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, THAT WE COULD AGREE TO. 
          WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OTHER INVOLVED GROUP CAN PACK NOT, UH, NOT BY MY OFFICE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF MS. CHAFFIN HAS HAD OTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH CAMP PACK. 
          THE HAND PACK WAS NOTIFIED OF THE INITIAL FILING OF THIS AS REQUIRED. 
          THE INITIAL FILING OF THIS ZONING WAS A LONG TIME AGO. 
          YOU KNOW, THE CASE NUMBER IS A 2019 NUMBER, BUT THAT WAS WHEN THEY WERE ASKING FOR A HIGHER ZONING LEVEL. 
          THE REQUEST HAS BEEN REDUCED A COUPLE OF TIMES. 
          SO IF IT'S REDUCED STAFF, DOESN'T REACH OUT, WE DON'T REALLY NOTIFY IT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE MAKERS. 
          SO IT'S THE INTERESTED PARTIES NEED TO GO BACK TO STAFF AND CHECK 
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ON THESE TYPES OF CASES. 
          YES, WE NOTIFY IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE THAT INCREASES THE ASK, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN THE APP AND WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SEND OUT NOTICES AND I HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMUNICATION FROM COMPAQ UNTIL RECENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY FINAL COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS NOT SEEING ANY, UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION CRUSHER? I UNDERSTAND, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU HAVE APPROVAL AND THE SECOND, UM, TO PUSH ON HER, SOMEBODY WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES SENSE IN A DENSE ENVIRONMENT TO HAVE A SMALLER SETBACK. 
          UM, SETBACKS IN CODE ARE TYPICALLY THERE THAT CAN BE USED FOR GOOD, AND IT CAN BE USED FOR OTHER REASONS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, A BIGGER SETBACK HERE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF WEST CAMPUS. 
          DOESN'T SEEM TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY WHEN WE REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT THINGS AT WEST CAMPUS, WE'RE PRIMARILY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WEST CAMPUS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE SMALLER IMPACT DESIGN, UNDERSTAND IT. 
          THE MAJORITY OF, IF WE CALL WEST CAMPUS PART OF CAMPUS, THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION, THE MAJORITY OF THE RECRUITERS, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THEY ALL LIVE IN WEST CAMPUS. 
          SO I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WAS CAMPUS THINGS RATHER THAN HOMEOWNERS IN ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          ALRIGHT, RIGHT. 
          SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRALLY CREDO, GO AHEAD, NEUTRALLY. 
          UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE FOR ADJUSTING SETBACKS DEPENDING ON THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT I ACTUALLY DON'T THINK A 15 FOOT SETBACK IS THAT BIG AT ALL. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, REASONS FOR THE 15. 
          AND I ALSO APPRECIATE, UM, THE HISTORICAL AND COMMISSIONS ADVICE IN THIS. 
          I THINK THAT THEY'RE PRETTY SPOT ON, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE NOTIONS AS A SECOND END. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, A BIG FACTOR FOR ME IS THE FACT THAT, UM, THE THERE'S A COMMON OWNER OF THESE TRACKS AND THAT THE, UM, THE OWNER ISN'T GONNA ALLOW THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BUILDING TO, TO REALLY UNDERMINE THE, UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING DURING CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO THEN IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF SPACING, UM, FOR ME AND, UH, IN AN AREA, A WEST CAMPUS, 10 FEET BETWEEN BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY NORMAL. 
          AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M COMFORTABLE RELYING ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE ADVICE OF THE, UH, OF THE STAFF. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, MR. SEDOWSKY AND I DON'T OFTEN SEE EYE TO EYE, HE'S MORE OF A HISTORICAL PRESERVATION ENTHUSIAST AND I'M HIM. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND IF HE'S OKAY WITH SOMETHING, THEN, THEN I'M USUALLY OKAY WITH IT TOO. 
          SO, UH, UM, I'LL JUST, I'LL LEAVE IT LIKE THAT. 
          WE COME FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. 
          I APPRECIATE HIS, BUT THEY ARE DIFFERENT. 
          UM, SO IF HE THINKS IT'S SUFFICIENT THEN, AND I THINK I'M GOOD FOR IT. 
          SO, UH, CUSHNER SHIRE, YOU WISH TO SPEAK NEUTRAL OR AGAINST, YEAH. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK NEUTRALLY ON THIS, UH, THIS ITEM. 
          I, UH, I FEEL A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE, UM, AND IT'S REALLY NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE SETBACKS IN PARTICULAR. 
          IT'S MORE ABOUT THE LOSS OF THE HISTORIC COMMISSION'S ROLE IN REVIEW OF THIS. 
          UM, ONCE WE APPROVED THIS, AS WE'VE HEARD THE STORE COMMISSION REALLY THEY'RE OUT OF THE LOOP ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BACK. 
          AND I THINK I HAVE, AND MAYBE OTHERS HAVE SEEN WHERE THERE ARE HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT ARE SURROUNDED BY VERY LARGE STRUCTURES THAT TEND TO DOOR AND MINIMIZE THE VALUE OF THESE REC BUILDING ITSELF. 
          AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT HERE. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND IT'S A COMMON OWNER THAT IS NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN, BUT I DO WANT TO RESPECT OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE A LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT, UM, HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAN I, AND I WOULD ARGUE THEN THAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES AND NOT HAVE THEM LOSE THEIR ROLE IN REVIEW OF THIS IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO, UH, UH, I, UH, I BELIEVE I WILL BLOW, UH, NEUTRAL ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LAST COMMISSIONER, SPEAKING IN FAVOR, LAST COMMISSIONER SPEAKING, NEUTRAL OR AGAINST, 
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OKAY. 
          LET'S YUP. 
          COMMISSIONER, CAUSE GO AHEAD. 
          I'LL SPEAK NEUTRAL AS WELL. 
          I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE MYSTERY BEHIND THE 15 FOOT SETBACK. 
          I THINK MR. SEDOWSKY SAID VERY CLEARLY THAT THAT'S SORT OF THE NORM. 
          SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE PUZZLED BY THE APPLICANT BEING UNAWARE OF, OF THIS, UH, TYPICAL HISTORIC OFFICE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR THE SETBACKS, I'M STILL A LITTLE UNSURE ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S A, UNLESS ANYBODY WISHES IS SPEAKING IN FAVOR, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SLOTS. 
          REMEMBER YELLOW IS ABSTAIN. 
          GREEN IS FOR RED IS AGAINST, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO GRANT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, UM, ON ITEM B NINE C ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, ALL OPPOSED ONE ALL ABSTAINING ONE, TWO, THREE, SEVEN, ONE THREE. 
          UM, EVERYBODY'S TELLING ME I GOT THAT WRONG. 
          SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THAT'S ITEM B NINE, 
          [B11. Site Plan: SP-2019-0253C - Springdale Farms; District 3]
MOVING ON TO ITEM B 11. 
          UM, MR. HEMPHILL IS CONFLICT OR IS CONFLICTED OUT, BUT SHE DID REMIND US THAT, UH, THIS IS THE ONE WHERE, UM, THERE ARE THE VARIOUS PROVISIONS IN CODE FOR, UH, SUPERIORITY TO THE, UH, THE, UM, REGULATIONS ON THE BOOK RELATING TO WATERSHED PROTECTION. 
          SO I HOPE THAT THE STAFF AND APPLICANT PRESENTATIONS CAN FOCUS ON, ON THAT ASPECT OF THIS SINCE THAT, UH, ACCORDING TO CODE IS WHAT OUR DECISION HINGES UPON. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, CHRISTIE, WIND, WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY AT TIGHTER ROUND ROBIN, IF YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE THE PARAMETERS FOR THAT MOTION? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT MR. SNYDER? GO AHEAD. 
          IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          I WONDER IF YOU COULD WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET AND, UH, WHAT NEW CONDITIONS ARE LAID OUT IN THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION? YES. 
          THIS IS THE SEE WHEN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW SPECIALIST SENIOR WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, WE, BEFORE, BEFORE WE CONTINUE, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT STAFF FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT AND WATER SET, THE SECTION DEPARTMENT AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE WORKED VERY COOPERATIVELY ON THESE VARIOUS SYSTEMS. THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE GETTING THE SOUTHERN HAMMERHEAD OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THEREFORE 50 FEET AWAY FROM THE CREEK CENTER LINE AND A VERY DETAILED REPAIR AND RESTORATION PLAN APPROVED BY WATER STAFF. 
          FOOD IN A MEMO IS NOT THE WAY TO SPOT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED WHY YESTERDAY THAT WAS REVIEWED AND HAS ADDRESSED ALL THE REASONS LISTED UNDER ITEM TWO IN THE VENMO. 
          THE LATEST PREPARATION PLAN HAS THAT BY THE INTENT OF A MEANINGFUL AND FUNCTIONAL RIPARIAN RESTORATION MAN, AS THE PERMIT BY WALK THE STEPS. 
          AND OVERALL, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE A SCREEN HEALTH WITHIN A GROWING URBAN AREA, AS SCREENS WITHIN THESE AREAS. 
          OFTEN PHASE THREE IN QUALITY IMPAIRMENT, EVENTUATED FROM URBANIZATION. 
          THANK YOU, CHRIS. 
          YOUR CIDER. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. 
          UM, UH, MISS WIND, IF I CAN JUST ASK YOU, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THIS PREVIOUSLY CAME TO US, IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, UH, UM, WE, UH, SENT IT BACK, UH, TO THE APPLICANT WITH A, UH, INSTRUCTION AND ADMONITION ADMONITION THAT, UM, WE, UH, REALLY WANTED TO COME BACK AND HEAR STAFF SAY THAT THIS IS SUPERIOR TOWARDS A, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY CODE, EVEN IF IT WAS A SLIGHT DEVIATION FROM WHAT WAS REQUIRED BY CODE. 
          UM, JUST SIMPLY PUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU ALL'S OPINION, IS THIS SUPERIOR TO WHAT A CODE WOULD DELIVER IN TERMS OF WATERSHED FOR THE OVERALL, FOR THE OVERALL SITE? YES. 
          ESPECIALLY IN THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT. 
          AND, UH, DO I HAVE IT, UH, DOES WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE? 
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CHRIS HARRINGTON IS ON THE LINE. 
          HE CAN ANSWER TO THAT, RIGHT? MR. HARRINGTON WITH US? YES. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. 
          DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? I DID. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND, UH, WE, WE DO SUPPORT, WE DO FIND THAT THE, UH, IMPROVEMENT NOW THAT BY THE REQUIRED BINDING AND ARE COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING THE VARIANT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS. 
          GO AHEAD, MR. FISHER, CAUSING A, NOT A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT. 
          I JUST REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE STAFF AND REALLY LOOKING INTO IT AND WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT CAREFULLY TO FIND A SUPERIOR SOLUTION FOR ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WITH QUESTIONS, COMMENTS DURING ROUND ROBIN. 
          UM, AND JUST REMINDER, I CAN AT LEAST ONLY SEE, UH, EIGHT OF YOU. 
          SO, UM, YES, THIS IS COMMISSIONER TOLEDO. 
          AND THE QUESTION, COULD I DO, LET'S GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF ON WHAT THE WORKAROUND IS HERE AND WHY THEY'RE SUPPORTING VARIOUS CAMPS. 
          THIS IS ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WITH THE BONUS SURFACE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THE WETLAND BIOLOGIST WHO REVIEWED THIS RESTORATION PLAN, UM, IS CERTAINLY NOT HERE AT THE MEETING, BUT MAYBE FOR SAMSON, SOME WATER FARMING STANDARDS THAT ARE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHEN THE ENVIRONMENTAL UP THERE. 
          SO BASICALLY BY REDUCING FOR MOVING THE OTHER AND HAMPER HIT, THEY MINIMIZE THEIR DEVIATION FROM CODE AND THEY ARE DOING MORE RIPARIAN RESTORATION THAN THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE OBLIGATED TO UNDER CODE. 
          AND SO THEY ARE RAISING THE CONDITION OF THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          THEY'RE ELEVATING IT MORE THAN, UH, WHAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO DO HAVE IT AT A CHEAP HIGHER RIGHT PERIOD FUNCTION. 
          UM, THEY FULLY PETRIFIED OUR WITH MY BIOLOGIST RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, DRIVING THAT BECAUSE PART OF THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT NOW AS THE MINIMUM BBA FROM CODE BY GREATER OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, UM, WITHOUT A PROBABILITY OF HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES AND, UH, BETTER OVERALL WATER QUALITY. 
          LIKE THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL DETAIL. 
          SEAN HAD HIS HAND UP AS WELL. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GET A LITTLE PICKY HERE, JUST CAUSE WHEN I SAW THE, UH, THE LETTER, WHICH HAS ALL THE FINDINGS OF FACT PREVIOUSLY, THEY THEY'RE ALL, NO, WHICH MEANS THE APPLICANT DIDN'T SATISFY ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO GET THIS A DEVIATION. 
          SO I GUESS I WOULD LIKE, UH, FOR STAFF AND I KNOW THIS MAY TAKE A FEW MINUTES, CAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IN PLACE FOR US TO APPROVE THIS. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          SO I KNOW WE'VE GLOSSED OVER KIND OF A GENERAL WAY THAT THEY MEANT SUPERIORITY, BUT CAN WE GO THROUGH THAT LETTER AND JUST CHECK THE BOXES AND SAY, WE'VE GOT YESES TO ALL THESE NOW BECAUSE THEY HAD A LOT OF NOS AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALL. 
          YES. 
          NOW, SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT LETTER AND JUST KIND OF TAKE US THROUGH WHY NOW IN EACH ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THEY'RE ANSWERED. 
          YES, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES. 
          UM, PARDON ME, LET ME PULL THAT UP. 
          SO MANY WINDOWS OPEN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE REASON WHY IS THAT WASN'T ADDED AS BACKUP IS BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO MEET THE MIDDLE DEADLINE BY THURSDAY AND WE HAVE A SCHOOL DETERMINATION BROUGHT OFF WHAT, UH, FROM THE WETLAND BIOLOGIST AND A FOOL RESTORATION PLAN ON THE APPLICANT. 
          SO I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE LETTER. 
          IT'S HAS A ONE AND THEN A TWO, UH, AS THE 25 DASH EIGHT DASH 41, BUT THE CITY CODE AND THOSE WERE ALL NO. 
          SO I GUESS, CAN WE JUST TALK THROUGH WHY THESE NOW OR YES, CAN WE START, THIS IS CHRIS ERICKSON IMPORTANT AUTHOR. 
          I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE REQUIRED BLANK THING. 
          SO ON A ONE, IS THIS THE MINIMUM DEVIATION, THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY IS KNOWN. 
          AND SO WE KNOW THE NEED REQUEST IS NOW SOMETHING THAT IS WITH THE ADDITIONAL MITIGATION ACCEPTABLE 
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UNDER EIGHT TO NINE DECISION BEING MADE BY THE APPLICANT. 
          BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THE ADDITIONAL CRITERION RESTORATION ABOVE WHAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED TO DO. 
          UM, WE CAN ANSWER THAT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE BECAUSE IT'S PROVIDING GREATER OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. 
          AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, IS THIS THE MIMI MINIMUM DEVIATION FROM CODE NECESSARY TO ALLOW REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY? UH, WE BELIEVE IT IS WITH THE REDUCTION IN THE ENCROACHMENT, THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND THE ADDITIONAL RESTORATION THAT THEY WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED TO DO THROUGHOUT THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          UM, WE FEEL THAT THAT IS A BALANCED TRADE-OFF. 
          WE DO NOT FEEL THAT THE, UM, THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT PROBABILITY OF HARMFUL ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE OF THE MANNER IN WHICH THEY ARE DOING THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          NOW BEING BALANCED BY THAT RIGHT, PAIRING RESTORATION, SUCH THAT THEN WE CAN ANSWER THE FINAL ONE 83, PUT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL ACHIEVE WATER QUALITY THAT IS AT LEAST EQUAL TO WATER QUALITY TABLE WITHOUT THE VARIANCE ALSO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENT OF THE FUNCTION OF THE RIGHT PERIOD AREA IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS DURING THE ROUND ROBIN? ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? PUSH MY COMMISSIONER CAUSEY CHAIR. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE REFLECTED IN THE STAFF MEMO. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, CONSTRUCT KASI. 
          DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? LET ME SPEAK TO IT. 
          I APPRECIATE, UH, UH, APPLICANT AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AND TO CHANGE ALL OF THE NODES THAT WE HEARD LAST TIME AND TWO YESES AND THANK STAFF FOR GOING THROUGH IT IN DETAIL. 
          IT HELPS US MAKE OUR DECISION. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, CHRIS, FOR SPEAKING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL, I THINK WE'RE STILL PICKING UP SOME AUDIO FROM YOUR, UH, ALRIGHT. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONNAIRES WE CAN WISHING TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WISHING TO SPEAK AGAINST OR NEUTRAL ON THE MOTION? UM, I'LL SPEAK IN FAVOR AND JUST SAY, UH, JUST ECHO THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING HOW OLD OUR CODE IS WHEN, WHEN STAFF AND APPLICANTS ARE REALLY ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER TO, FOR PERIOD TO WHAT CODE REQUIRES, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THE LETTER OF WHAT CODE REQUIRES. 
          UM, I THINK EVERYBODY WINS. 
          AND, UH, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT IN THE NEW CODE IS, UH, IF WE ARE BUILDING IN SOME ABILITY TO KIND OF EXPERIMENT AROUND EVEN WITH SMALLER SITES, THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY LIKE A BIG SUBDIVISION PUD, UH, AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SUPERIORITY AND, AND OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT CODE REQUIRES AND SEEING IF WE CAN HAVE SOME AVENUES THERE TO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE CODE BAY WAS SOME FOLKS ASK, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW ARE WE DOING THIS WITHOUT TESTING IT FIRST? AND, AND I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND, AND, UH, HAVING THE ABILITY TO TEST OUT NEW SOLUTIONS AND THEN USE THAT TO INFORM REVISIONS TO CODE. 
          UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A REAL GOOD THING. 
          AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT FURTHER. 
          SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, COMMENTS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST OR NEUTRAL? ALRIGHT. 
          I'M SEEING NONE THE MOST, UH, TAPE OR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH CONDITIONS AS REFLECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. 
          DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? MR. KASI? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALL IN FAVOR, SHOW GREEN CHAIR AS REFLECTED IN THE STAFF MEMORANDUM, SORRY, STAFF MEMORANDUM, NOT STAFF REPORT, IS THAT CORRECT? MR. GUZZY AND CHRISTINA SCHNEIDER. 
          THAT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR SHOW GREEN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS, UM, WHAT, 10 TO ZERO, UM, CAUSE PUSHER HEMPHILL WAS OUT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S OUR LAST DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          UM, THE, UH, I THINK THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A BURNET ROAD HEARING, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          AND MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN TALK ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERAL L ABOUT, UH, WE ARE FUTURE-PROOFING OUR CORRIDOR DESIGNS FOR, UH, FUTURE TRANSIT UPGRADES. 
          UM, AND, UH, THEN AS WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS, PUSH THE TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP TO THE NEXT MEETING. 
          UH, 
          [D3. Discussion and input regarding the Planning Commission Agenda. (Co-Sponsors: Commissioner Azhar and Commissioner Thompson)]
UM, UH, MR. VERA, ARE 
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YOU PREPARED TO SPEAK, UM, AT ALL ON, ON, UH, SOME STUFF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH ADAM  REGARDING THE AGENDA, THIS WOULD BE A PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          SO I'M ASKING, UH, UM, WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE ISSUES, UH, IN POSSIBILITIES THERE, ARE YOU PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THEM AT THIS POINT? OR DO WE NEED TO PUSH TO A DIFFERENT MEETING PRESIDENT AVAILABLE? OKAY. 
          UM, SO LET'S, LET'S TAKE UP  WE DON'T HAVE TO DISPOSE OF IT. 
          UM, IT'S FOR DISCUSSION AND INPUT, NOT NECESSARILY ACTION. 
          UM, I THINK THE GENESIS, THE GENESIS FOR THIS CAME OUT OF A COMMISSIONERS. 
          ARE YOU SAYING THAT, UH, HOSTING THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY AND THEN HAVING THE SPEAKER CUTOFF MONDAY AFTERNOON? YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST NOT A LOT OF TIME AND SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN DISCUSSION AND, AND, UH, BE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          I'M ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MR. VERA IS THAT, UM, THE FIRST POSTING FOR BACKUP ACTUALLY GOES UP ON THURSDAY. 
          AND, UM, IF WE WERE, UH, UH, PERHAPS POST A, AN EXPECTED AND A PART OF THAT BACKUP, PERHAPS ON THURSDAY, SO RELEASE, CAUSE THERE WERE GOING TO BE, UH, SOME REVISIONS TO THAT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO. 
          UM, MY VIDEO JUST CUT OUT FOR A SECOND. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF I CUT, CUT OUT, BUT THAT WAS ONE IDEA I HAD, UH, CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE AGENDA IS, AND A LOT OF FLUX, UM, THE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING. 
          SO, BUT IF WE'RE ABLE TO POST A BACKUP TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD THEN POST MAYBE AN ANTICIPATED AGENDA TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP. 
          UM, SO I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR AND SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS INPUT ON THIS OR QUESTIONS. 
          INSURERS ALREADY WANT TO START US OFF. 
          SURE. 
          I DO APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF AND BOTH Y'ALL AND ALL OF US ARE LOOKING INTO THIS. 
          I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. 
          YOU KNOW, AS I'VE MENTIONED, I ALSO UNDERSTAND SORT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH WE'RE ALL WORKING. 
          IT IS LIMITED TO GET BACKUP IN A LOT OF OTHER STUFF UP AND DYING. 
          I THINK MY BIGGEST QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN WE MOVE OUR SIGN UP, DO TUESDAY AFTERNOON? SO INSTEAD OF MONDAY AT NOON, CUTTING IT OFF AT MONDAY, DIDN'T GET, WE JUST USED IT MOON. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO KEEP UP WITH SIGN UP, BUT I JUST, I FEEL LIKE I DO STRUGGLE IF I, IF I WAS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND I WAS TRYING TO SIGN UP HAVING LIKE A TROJAN ON FRIDAY, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T LOOK AT IT UNTIL MONDAY AFTERNOON. 
          AND I DON'T WANT, I WONDER IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE FALLING THROUGH THE BACK. 
          SO IF WE CAN JUST PUSH IT TO THE AFTERNOON, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM STAFF, WHETHER THAT'S ACTUALLY PERMISSIBLE UNDER OUR RULES AND THINGS THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. 
          SORRY, WITH THE CONSTRAINTS OF LOOKING AT SIGNUP STRAVA. 
          I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU, ANDREW. 
          CURRENTLY AT THIS TIME, WE ARE UNDER CONDITIONS PROVIDED BY THE PARK'S OFFICE AND ALSO THE LIMITED RESOURCES. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT AN OPTION, MR. VERA, IS THAT A, UH, NOT AN OPTION DUE TO RESOURCES OR GUIDANCE FROM THE CLERK? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY THE CURRENT, UM, I GUESS, UM, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, RESOURCES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, CAN WE GO THROUGH THE, UM, JUST THE, THE PROCESS BY WHICH, UH, FOLKS A NOTICE IN THE MAIL, IT SAYS, THERE'S THIS CASE IT'S GOING TO BE UP, UH, UH, FOR A, THAT'S POSTED FOR A PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING ON THIS DATE. 
          UM, I GET THAT GOES OUT. 
          IS IT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE HEARING? IS THAT CORRECT? BYE. 
          WELL, IT'S 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE NOTICES ARE SENT OUT EARLIER, UM, ON THE NOTICE THAT INDICATES THAT THE, UM, UH, TO VIEW THE, UH, RULES OF SIGNUP AND THE NOTICE ITSELF. 
          AND SINCE I'M PROVIDES THE LINK TO THE, UM, TO THE AGENDA, RIGHT? AND THEN IF YOU GO TO, IF YOU FOLLOW THAT LINK, YOU FIND, IF YOU GO THERE BEFORE THE AGENDA IS POSTED, YOU JUST SEE A BLANK ENTRY FOR THAT MEETING. 
          IS IT, IS IT THE MEETINGS? IS THAT WHERE IT GOES? BECAUSE THE, UM, OUR CURRENT SITUATION ISN'T REALLY SET IN 
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STONE IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UM, WE GO BY THE, WHAT THE, UM, THE GOVERNOR, UM, ALLOWS, WE CANNOT STIPULATE IN ADVANCE WHAT THE SIGNUP PROCESS WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEY GET A NOTICE THAT IT SAYS A PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A HEARING FOR THE STATE. 
          HERE'S THE LINK THEY RECEIVE IT, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TO 10 DAYS AHEAD OF THAT HEARING. 
          IT SAYS, GO TO THIS LINK. 
          THEY CLICK ON THAT LINK, BUT IF IT'S NOT YET THURSDAY, THEN THERE'S NO BACKUP FOR THAT MEETING YET. 
          AND IF IT'S NOT YET FRIDAY, THEN THERE'S NO AGENDA POSTED YET. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE NOODLES ALSO INCLUDES THE INFORMATION FOR THE CASE MANAGER AND THE CASE MANAGER HAS LIKELY HAVE MORE INFORMATION THAN JUST ONE ON THE WEBPAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHERE THEY COULD GET THE ADVICE. 
          HEY, CHECK IT FRIDAY AT NOON. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU CAN ALSO SIGN UP TO SPEAK. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? ALRIGHT AND STAFF ALSO FRIDAY MORNING WHILE SENT OUT A EMAIL TO ALL INTERESTED PARTICIPANTS, UM, INFORMING THEM OF THE SIGNUP PROCESS AND THE DEADLINES. 
          SURE. 
          HIS ARGUMENT WAS JUST TO FOLLOW UP JUST TO UNDERSTAND THIS FULLY. 
          IT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO BOAST A PRELIMINARY AGENDA ON THURSDAY WITHOUT ANY OTHER BACKUP. 
          CORRECT. 
          I GUESS I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT. 
          I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE HERE AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING UNDER BRIAN DENTED TIME. 
          I JUST REALLY WISH THERE WAS NOT ONE NON WEEKEND DATE BETWEEN WHEN WE BOAST AND WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING, I WISH IT WAS JUST ONE MORE NON WEEKEND DAY. 
          I, I WILL BE HONEST. 
          THERE ARE DAYS WHEN I TAKE FRIDAY OFF EARLY MYSELF FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND I'M NOT FOCUSING ON THE EMAILS THAT I'M GETTING. 
          SO IF I MISSED THAT AND ON MONDAY MORNING, I GO BACK TO WORK AND I'M SITTING IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          I WON'T BE ABLE TO SIGN UP. 
          AND I JUST FEEL LIKE IF I STRUGGLE SOMETIMES TO KEEP UP, I REALLY WONDERFUL WAY LESS PRIVILEGED THAN ME WHO HAVE WAY MORE ON THEIR PLATE THAN ME WHO ARE ALSO NOT GETTING PERSONALIZED EMAIL IN THEIR INBOX, HOW THEY WOULD HANDLE THIS SITUATION. 
          AND I JUST REALLY WISH THERE WAS A SOLUTION TO JUST ADD AT LEAST ONE MORE NON WEAKENED IN THE MIDDLE. 
          I APPRECIATE STAFF'S CONSIDERATION OF THIS. 
          SURE. 
          YES. 
          . 
          I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE WHAT COMMISSIONER SR SAID, BUT MORE SO THAN PREFERENCE. 
          IT IS, AS I UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS THREE BUSINESS DAYS, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S, UM, IF THIS IS ACTUALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT, WELL, THE, THE THREE BUSINESS DAYS IS THE POSTING. 
          UH, AND I GUESS THE OPERATIVE QUESTION MIGHT BE, UM, IF WE'RE CUTTING SIGN-OFFS OFF OR ASSIGN UPS OFF EARLIER, UH, DOES THAT EFFECTIVELY PUSH THE THREE DAYS NOTICE AHEAD OF TIME? LIKE THERE'S THE THREE DAYS NOTICE, YOU KNOW, DOES IT APPLY TO WHEN YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL OR DOES IT APPLY TO WHEN YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP BY? UM, I KNOW THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT PRETTY WELL AND IT SAYS, UH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE AGENDA HAS TO BE POSTED POSTED THREE DAYS UP WHEN I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH IS THE GOVERNOR'S GUIDANCE ON, ON HOW THOSE TIMELINES MIGHT BE MODIFIED. 
          UM, THAT MAKES SURE I UNDERSTAND. 
          SORRY. 
          I JUST WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE FRIDAY POSTING OF THE AGENDA SEEMS WITHIN THE THREE DAYS TO ME. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED, IS IT BUSINESS DAYS THOUGH? OR IS IT ACTUALLY JUST 72 HOURS BUSINESS DAYS? TO MY UNDERSTANDING, PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M, UM, WITH THE REQUIREMENTS. 
          SURE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          COULD WE LEAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA? IT MAY BE, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S A MOVING TARGET RIGHT NOW. 
          I THINK WE WOULD ALL APPRECIATE ALLOWING SPEAKERS TO SPEAK UP ON TUESDAY. 
          IT IS WEIRD THAT A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON TUESDAY, BUT YET YOU HAVE TO SIGN IT BY MONDAY. 
          I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE REALIZED THAT KICK THEMSELVES. 
          UM, AS MR. RIVERA SAID, EVERYTHING'S MOVING TARGET 
          [02:05:01]
RIGHT NOW. 
          MAYBE WE CAN, HE CAN HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THE CLERK AND SEE WHAT RESOURCES ARE FREED UP POTENTIALLY, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF THE BODY. 
          WE'RE PRETTY IMPORTANT BODY. 
          WE SEE IMPORTANT THINGS AND TO BE ABLE TO CUT IT OFF AT NOON SHOULD, WOULD MAKE A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE TO ME AND STAFF ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          EVENTUALLY THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          IT'D BE A GREAT GOAL. 
          UM, YEAH, I AGREE. 
          I MEAN, WE ON POSTED FOR ACTION, SO WANTED TO TAKE SOME DISCUSSION AND, AND I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH, WITH, UH, MR. BERA AND OUR STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN EITHER PUSH THE SIGN UP BACK TO TUESDAY OR, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE WE NEED TO CHANGE PRACTICE DURING THIS THING AND JUST, UH, CUT OFF THE CASES THAT AREN'T READY BY, UH, BY THURSDAY AT NOON INSTEAD OF FRIDAY, UM, UH, IT'S VERY VALID CONCERNS. 
          SO, UM, I WILL CHECK BACK WITH STAFF AND MR. BARRON WILL WE'LL COME BACK NEXT MEETING AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A REPORT. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE BREAK OFF COMMISSIONERS SEEGER AND THE COMMISSIONERS ARE, YES, IT, COULD WE HAVE A BLEEP, EXCUSE ME, ON LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF WITNESS THAT CUT OFF, ARE THERE SPECIAL RULES, EXCUSE ME, SPECIAL RULES BECAUSE OF COVID WHAT ROLES ARE REALLY TRULY OPERATING UNDER OVERSIGHT AND ASSUMPTION THAT WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS, BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EVERY, WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID, WE'VE TAKEN THE PUBLIC INPUT AWAY FROM OUR RESIDENTS ON THESE CASES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I KNOW THE GOVERNOR HAS ISSUED SPECIFIC GUIDANCE, SUSPENDING SOME PARTS AND ALTERING OTHERS TO LOOK INTO THAT SPECIFICALLY AND GET BACK TO, I DID JUST CHECK THE STATUTE AND THAT'S JUST 72 HOURS, NOT, NOT BUSINESS DAYS. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER AZHAR, DID YOU HAVE, UH, ANY LAST THINGS TO SAY? I JUST HAD DUKE COMMENTS. 
          THE THING ONE WAS THE STAFF. 
          IF WE DID NOT MOVE THE NOON ON TUESDAY, TUESDAY IS NOT POSSIBLE AND WE MOVE IT TO END OF DAY MONDAY. 
          SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. 
          EVEN IF IT CAN JUST GO WITH THEIR FINE BEAM ON MONDAY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          IF NOT THAT THAT'S PERFECT BY ANY MEANS, BUT ADDING THE AFTERNOON OF MONDAY, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR MOLD AND NOT ADDING IT. 
          AND LASTLY, I WOULD SAY, I FEEL LIKE IF ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE LISTENING, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE SIGN UP, ME, US AN EMAIL. 
          I KNOW I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ON THE DAY OFF I GO TO WAYNE IS PRETTY RELIGIOUSLY AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN SORT OF MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS PLEASE LISTEN TO WRITE US, EVEN IF IT CANNOT BE BROUGHT AND BROADCAST. 
          SO DO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. 
          AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO TRIES TO CHIP IN AND HELP US MAKE THESE DECISIONS ON ANDROID. 
          I WOULD ALSO WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT IT'S NOT ONLY THIS CONVENTION THAT WOULD GIVE IT UP TO QUIT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. VERA. 
          I MEAN, OTHER COMMISSIONERS WENT AWAY IN BEFORE WE, UH, TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT MEETING, NOT SEEING ANYBODY. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, I GUESS I NEED TO, UH, TAKE, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND QUESTION COMMISSIONER IS OUR ALL IN FAVOR IS, UM, NINE TO ZERO. 
          UM, SO, UH, MOVING ON TO, UM, 
          [E. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE A CORRIDOR ITEM AND A TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP NEXT TIME. 
          UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVELY LIGHT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN, UH, SPEND SOME TIME ON THOSE TOPICS. 
          UH, AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW THE ITEM IS, THE MEETING IS STACKED UP. 
          UM, WE MAY TRY TO SQUEEZE IN THE NACD BRIEFING ON AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED AND THE BONUS PRODUCTION AS WELL. 
          WE'LL KIND OF TAKE THAT AS A COMES. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, CHAIR, UH, AND MAYBE, UH, TO MR. RIVERA. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD FROM ZACH BOMBER AT, UM, UH, ABOUT THE CLIMATE PLAN. 
          HE HAD TOLD ME THAT HE HAD WANTED TO GET IT UP BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAN. 
          YES. 
          WHICH IS THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND THEN, BUT AT ONE POINT WHEN I TALKED TO HIM, HE SAID SEPTEMBER, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE'D REACHED OUT YET, BUT IF I, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE RELATIVELY LIGHT. 
          I MIGHT WANT TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND ENCOURAGE HIM TO GET READY FOR NEXT MEETING. 
          OKAY, SURE. 
          IT KIND OF SHINES ON ANDREW. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YES. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR THE LAST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH ITEMS? OKAY. 
          UM, AND, UH, 
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HAD SOMETHING, BUT IT'S GONE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          [F. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]
UM, THEN MOVING ON TO, UH, BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUPS, UPDATES, UM, ANY SUB COMMITTEES OR JOINT WORKING GROUPS OR BOARDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          NEAT. 
          NOT SEEING ANY, UM, SMALL AREA PLAN MEANING TOMORROW. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING I WANT. 
          I WANT TO, UH, UM, ESPECIALLY, UH, VANC THE, UM, STREET IMPACT THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DID. 
          I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH PEOPLE, UM, IN THE CITY AND STAKEHOLDERS. 
          AND THEY'RE REAL APPRECIATIVE OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO DO THERE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, UM, HAVING A BIG IMPACT ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS GOOD. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR ITEMS. UH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE IT'S BEEN EIGHT 15, UH, SO HAVE A GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN TWO WEEKS. 
          THANKS, SIR. 
          THANKS. 
          BYE. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          .
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