* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:06] WE'RE GONNA START THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING AND I'M GOING TO TAKE ROLL. CALL IT. WOULDN'T HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, AUGUST 19TH, 2020 3:00 PM. TO 4:30 PM. WE HAVE VIDEO CONFERENCING. WE'LL CALL MR. SMITH COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER NEELY IMAGE. WHAT WAS THAT? NEELY COMMISSIONER COIN. I'M VERY SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M HERE. COMMISSIONER HAMBURG. I'M HERE TO COMMISSIONER GUERRERO HERE. COMMISSIONER GORDON HERE. COMMISSIONER BEDFORD HERE. OKAY. SO OUR STUDY THING FROM COMMISSIONER NEELY, DOES ANYONE SEE HER? I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE HER ON THE LINE YET. I'M GOING TO HAVE NINE. SHE IS ON THE LINE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER. OUR NEXT [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ACTION ] ITEM IS NUMBER ONE, A APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ACTION APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 5TH, 2020 ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES ARE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MOTION THAT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. ALL IN FAVOR. SAY, RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THAT A 10 VOTE. MR. NEELEY, YOU WILL NEED TO MUTE YOUR PHONE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. UM, [2A. ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION Election of Environmental Commission officers for the May 1, 2020 through April 30, 2021 term (15 minutes)] ITEM TWO, A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A RECOMMENDATION AND SUPPORT OF THIS. WASN'T THE RIGHT ONE. IS IT COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN, 2020 REVISION. IS THAT CORRECT? NO. MA'AM. TODAY IS ELECTION OF OFFICERS. WONDER WHY I HAVE THE WRONG ONE UP. SO I BOUGHT THAT. I MUST HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE UP. HOLD ON. AH, THANK YOU. THAT'S A HARD ONE. OKAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR FOR, UH, ELECTIONS OF OFFICERS, UH, WHERE YOU NEED CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND SECRETARY. SO WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS THAT WE NEED. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE NOMINATIONS FIRST. DO YOU WANT TO DO, UM, THE CH BACKWARDS OR DOESN'T MATTER? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION. OKAY. WELL, LET'S SEE. FIRST, ARE WE GOING TO GO WITH, UH, THE CHAIR NOMINATION FIRST? IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE? WE'LL KIND OF PROCEED. OKAY. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE LINDA GUERRERO FOR CHAIRS. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR? ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I THINK I WILL HAVE TO PASS IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON CHARNEY TO PASS THIS TO OUR VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER KLEIN, MADAM, SIR, YOU MAY PROCEED. YOU CAN CONDUCT AN ELECTION AS THE PRESIDING OFFICER, [00:05:01] EVEN IF YOU'RE A CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE. UM, I'LL TAKE ROLL CALL SMITH. WE NEED A SECOND ONE SECOND. NOMINATIONS. DON'T NEED SECONDS FOR OFFICER ELECTION. OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF STATIC AND STUFF. I HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE HEARING. MAKE SURE YOU'RE MUTED. OKAY. THERE'S A COUPLE OF FOLKS WHO AREN'T RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO DOWN. READY? COMMISSIONER SMITH. I CAN'T COMMISSIONER SMITH. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW? YES. OKAY. WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? WHAT'S HER POSITION RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. MR. THOMPSON. THANK YOU. LINDA COMMISSIONER NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER NEELEY. YES. AND HERE'S YOUR ARMY? GOOD, MR. COIN'S A MIRACLE. YES. MR. MACIO. YES. MR. RAINBIRD. YES. COMMISSIONER GUERRERO? YES. COMMISSIONER BORDEN. MISSIONER BEDFORD. YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE NOW HAVE AN ELECTRIC CHAIR AND NOW WE NEED TO MOVE TO VICE CHAIR. ARE THERE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR? NOMINATE KATIE COHEN. EXCELLENT. SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR AT THIS TIME? HEARING NONE. WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR VOTE. COMMISSIONER SMITH. YES. MR. THOMPSON. YES. THANKS KATIE COMMISSIONER NEIL? YES. COMMISSIONER NEELEY? YES. COMMISSIONER COYNE? YES. COMMISSIONER MACIO COMMISSIONER RAMBERT? YES. COMMISSIONER GUERRERO. YES. COMMISSIONER GORDON. MR. BEDFORD. YES. VERY GOOD. SO WHEN WE MOVED TO THE ELECTION OF OUR, UH, SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR? UH, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER RAMBERT. EXCELLENT. SO OUR FRIEND WAS TAKING A ROLL COMMISSIONER SMITH. THANK YOU, EVERYONE FOR SERVING? YES. MR. THOMPSON? YES. COMMISSIONER NEIL? YES. MR. NEELEY? YES. COMMISSIONER COIN? YES. COMMISSIONER MACIO YES. MICHELLE RAINBIRD YES. COMMISSIONER GUERRERO. YES. COMMISSIONER GORDON. YEAH. YOU MENTIONED A BIT. YES. EXCELLENT. SO WE HAVE NOW DONE ITEM TWO, A ELECTION [2B. Presentation of Development Assessment Report for the Springdale Green Planned Unit Development located at 1011 Springdale Rd, CD-2020-0001 (District 3)—Heather Chaffin, Planner Senior, Planning and Zoning Department, and Atha Phillips, Environmental Officer’s Office (30 minutes)] OF OFFICERS. WE ARE NOW GOING TO ITEM TWO BB PRESENTATION OF DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT REPORT FOR THE SPRINGDALE GREEN PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 10 11 SPRINGDALE ROAD, CD DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO ONE DISTRICT THREE. I THINK, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTER FROM THE, UH, PLAN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, PERHAPS LET'S SEE WHO'S OUT THERE. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS HEATHER CAFFIN FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. I'M THE ZONING CASE MANAGER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT. AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, THE PROPOSED PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WE ALSO HAVE A FACILITY AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND THE AGENT ON THE PROJECT IS ALSO GOING [00:10:01] TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION MASTERMIND. AS YOU SAID, THE PROJECT AT 10, 11, AND 10 17 SPRINGDALE ROAD, IT'S IN THE BOGGY CREEK WATERSHED AND A LITTLE BIT IN THE TENANT HILL BRANCH WATERSHED. IT'S A 30.18 ACRE PARCEL REQUESTING TO GO FROM G R M U C O N P AND R R N P TO P U D ZONING. THE, UH, APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP IT WITH OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES AS WELL AS A PUBLIC TRAIL EASEMENT. IT'S IN AN IMAGINABLE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER ON ACTIVITY CORRIDORS AND NEAR THE CAPITAL METRIC. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT, BUT I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, THE EAST AUSTIN TANK FARM, THIS IS THE AREA, THIS THE TANK FARM WAS USED FOR DECADES FOR STORAGE OF PETROCHEMICALS AND RELATED ITEMS AND WERE REMOVED. AND ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION OCCURRED. THIS SITE WAS REMEDIATED IN THE NINETIES, BUT NOT ABLE TO BE REMEDIATED TO A LEVEL THAT WOULD ALLOW REDEVELOPMENT WITH RESIDENTIAL USES. SO THE ONLY OPTIONS OUR OFFICE COMMERCIAL LIMITED INDUSTRIAL USES, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT WATERWAY FLOODPLAIN AND WATER QUALITY BUFFER ZONES ON THE PROPERTY. AND THERE ARE SOME HERITAGE TREES ON THE SITE APP HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL COMPLY WITH ALL TIER ONE PUG DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AS WELL AS SEVERAL PEER TWO STANDARDS. THE TIER TWO STANDARDS THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AT THIS POINT INCLUDE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. THREE-STAR GREEN BUILDING RATING REVEGETATION AND RESTORATION AS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS AND PROVIDING A 50 FOOT WIDE TRAIL EASEMENT CONNECT TO SURROUND SURROUNDING TRAIL SYSTEM. THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THE ALLOWABLE IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM 90% TO 50%, AND THEY WILL PAY A FEE IN LIEU TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. THROUGH NHD. THE REQUEST WITH THE PUD IS TO INCREASE THE BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 60 FEET TO 90 FEET, RELAXED COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS IN RELATION TO SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS AND MODIFY SOME CRITICAL WATER QUALITIES AND REQUIREMENTS. THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE MICHAEL WHALEN IS AVAILABLE WITH HIS PRESENTATION. I'VE ATTACHED SEVERAL EXHIBITS, A ZONING MAP, AND AN ARIEL EXHIBIT TO HELP WITH THE LOCATION AND SURROUNDING LAND USES AND ZONING. THE PROPOSED LAND USE PLAN AS SUBMITTED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT, THE APP CLINIC'S LETTER WITH SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT STAFF REPORT THAT WE ISSUED. I BELIEVE MR. WHALEN ALSO HAS THE REPORT WITH THEIR REPLIES. THIS IS A BRIEFING. THIS ITEM WILL COME BACK WHEN THE FORMAL PUD ZONING REQUEST IS FILED AND AT THAT TIME, UH, WILL BE NEEDED AT THIS POINT. WE LOOKING TO KEEP YOU UPDATED AND THEN ALSO, UH, ANY GUIDANCE AS WE MOVE TOWARDS THE PUD. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. SO MICHAEL WHALEN IS NEXT WITH A PRESENTATION I'M HERE. UH, I BELIEVE THE PRESENTATION IS IN THE BACKUP AND ONLINE. THEN I'LL ASK THE COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, THIS IS SIMPLY A BRIEFING MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS CHRIS, CHRIS HARRINGTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO, WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION QUEUED UP IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH IT OR IT'S YOUR CHOICE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF YOU DON'T MIND. I COULD THINK I COULD DO IT VERY QUICKLY. I WASN'T, I WAS ANTICIPATING JUST TAKING QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK A FIVE MINUTE OVERVIEW WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR, MICHAEL, YOUR PRESENTATION IS UP. IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED AND JUST CALL IT, THE SLIDES WILL, OKAY, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH HAS A, WHAT ON THE RIGHT, THE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW ON THE LEFT, WHAT IT WAS, AND, YOU KNOW, FROM MS PRESENTATION, THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY A STRONG MOVEMENT, THANKFULLY TO GET RID OF A TANK FARM, UH, IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR COMMUNITY. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A 1940 ARIEL, WHICH SAYS THIS IS BASIC FARMLAND REMARKABLY. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT THE 1962, IT BEGAN AS A [00:15:01] TANK FARM. AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE TANK FARM GROWING. UH, THIS IS A 1984 SLIDE. THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS I INCLUDED, CAUSE IT'S JUST STRUCK ME THAT BETWEEN 1984 AND 1987, ANOTHER TANK WAS ADDED AT THE VERY END OF STREET, UH, WHICH I FOUND REMARKABLE. THEN IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE, 2006, IT HAS BEEN, UM, TANK FARMS HAS BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WORK OF, UH, OUR COMMUNITY, INCLUDING POSED AIR AND MANY OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN 2019, SOME RECOVERY OVER THAT 13 YEAR PERIOD, YOU CAN STILL SEE THE OUTLINES OF TANKS THAT WERE THERE, PRETTY OBVIOUS. AND NOW WE HAVE THE CURRENT SITE, YOU'LL SEE SPRINGDALE GENERAL TO THE NORTH OF US. AND THERE'S A LITTLE LABEL OF SALSEDO REMARKABLY. YOU CAN STILL SEE THAT TANK THAT HAD BEEN ADDED BETWEEN 1984 AND 1987. AND I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU'LL SEE THE SITE. THIS IS A VERY GENERALIZED VIEW. WHAT WE OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE A DETAILED LAND USE PLAN WHEN WE FILE OUR HUD REZONING APPLICATION. UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE STRUCTURES, UH, W WE WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT UP ON SPRINGDALE. AND, UH, UH, THE NORTH WEST CORNER MO MOST OF THE SITE, UH, IS WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH IS WHY THE SITES CONSTRAINED. AND WE'RE KIND OF FORCED TO BUILD IN THAT, UH, NORTHWEST CORNER. UH, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO UNDERGROUND, UH, ON THE SITE BECAUSE OF RESTRICTIONS DUE TO THE TANK FARM, THOSE RESTRICTIONS, MOST PROMINENTLY AND IMPORTANTLY INCLUDE NO RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE PROPERTY, NO AGRICULTURAL USES ON THE PROPERTY AND NO GROUNDWATER DRILLING. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN, UH, RESTRICTIONS AND THERE'S LONG LIST OF THINGS THAT FALL WITHIN THOSE THREE THINGS, UH, PURSUANT TO THE TCQ ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SEEKING TO ACHIEVE BASED ON WHERE THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN AND WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT, UH, ULTIMATELY GO IN TERMS OF CREATING A NEW HISTORY FOR THIS SITE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON LEAD BUILDING STANDARDS, UH, AND WE'RE WORKING ON, AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO THREE-STAR REBUILDING. AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SUSTAINABLE SITES INITIATIVE. NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL SHOW YOU, UM, SILVER CELL TECHNOLOGY AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. MR. HARRINGTON CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY EXCITING AND A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DEMONSTRATE HOW IT CAN BE USED TO, UH, PLACE TREES, EVEN IN PAVED AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT MORE AREA TO GROW AND, UH, FLOURISH. OUR NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE CISTERNS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, UH, INCLUDING IT WILL CAPTURE RAIN, WATER, AND AIR CONDITIONING CONDENSATE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, IRRIGATE OR PROVIDE FOR AT LEAST 50% OF OUR IRRIGATION, IF NOT MORE. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE IS OUR WATER QUALITY. WE'RE GOING TO BE COMMITTING TO A HUNDRED PERCENT INNOVATIVE MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, UH, THROUGH OUR WATER QUALITY, PRIMARILY WITH WAYNE, THE RAINWATER AND BIO RETENTION POND ON THE SITE, BUT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IT WILL BE INNOVATIVE MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. OUR NEXT SLIDE THEY'RE REMARKABLY WELL, NOT REMARKABLY GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE SITE IS STILL IMPERVIOUS COVER WITHIN THE TRIBUTARY, AND WE'LL BE REMOVING ANY REMNANTS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT'S WITHIN THE CHANNEL AND WORKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF, MS. PHILLIPS, MR. HARRINGTON ON ACHIEVING, UH, FROM WHAT'S PROBABLY CONSIDERED FAIR TO GOOD, UH, CATEGORY UNDER APPENDIX X AND THEN INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT. WE'VE GOT, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MOVING IN MANAGING INVASIVE INVASIVE SPECIES TO RESTORE THE BIODIVERSITY OF THE SITE. NEXT SLIDE, AS I MENTIONED, OUR RESTORATION GOAL IN THE CHANNEL, AND I BELIEVE [00:20:01] THAT'S, UH, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, PLEASE INDICATE ONE QUESTION IS THE TRAIL, WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE VOICE. I APOLOGIZE. I'M JUST ON THE PHONE. WAS THAT COMMISSIONER MACIO YES, YES. UH, COMMISSIONER MACIO. WE, WE ARE PROPOSING A 50 FOOT WIDE TRAIL EASEMENT FROM IT'S BASICALLY FROM SALSEDO STREET ALL THE WAY, THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE AS FAR SOUTH, AS WE CAN GO, RIGHT TO THE END OF OUR PROPERTY LINE, THERE IS A PIECE THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNED BY A DIFFERENT PERSON BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY IN AIRPORT BOULEVARD. HOPEFULLY SOON THAT WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AS WELL, THAT PROPERTY, BUT, BUT WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. AND, UM, AND THAT, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, UH, ALL OF THAT WILL BE IN A TRAILER EASEMENT DEDICATED FOR PUBLIC USE SO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE FUTURE SYSTEMS SURROUNDING THE AREA, AND THIS IS A NICE WAY TO CREATE SOME IMPORTANT CONNECTIVITY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. NO, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY, WHY IT WOULD BE, I MEAN, 50 FEET IS, IS JUST HUGE. SO I DON'T, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK. HI COMMISSIONER, THIS IS ADA PHILLIPS WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER'S OFFICE. UM, SO I ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP THE WIDTH OF THE, UH, BIKE EASEMENT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IN YOUR BACKUP, UM, HOW I REVIEW THESE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENTS IS THAT I CREATE A LIST OF PROPOSED SUPERIORITIES, WHICH YOU'LL FIND, AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. UM, AND THEN I ALSO TRY AND COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL SUPERIORITIES, WHICH, UM, JUST TO GIVE OTHER THINGS FOR THE APPLICANT TO THINK ABOUT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DID, UM, LIST WAS TO REDUCE THE 50 FOOT EASEMENT TO 25 FEET. AND THE ONLY REASON I WOULD FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE PATHS COME IN AND THEY CREATE A LOT OF DISTURBANCE, BUT THEN THE CRITICAL, NOW I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN HAVE A 50 FOOT EASEMENT AND THEN STILL HAVE A VERY NARROW, UH, BIKE PATH. BUT I THINK, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FROM THE APPLICANT IS MAYBE A DESIRE TO CREATE A NARROW BIKE PATH WITHIN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY. SO SOMETIMES, UH, TRAILS, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN REALLY, UM, CREATE A LOT OF HABITS WITHIN THE CREEK BANK ITSELF. AND SO THE OTHER, UH, SUPERIORITY I OFFERED WAS TO EXPAND ALL CREEK CROSSINGS AND LOCATE THE ABUTMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE EROSION HAZARD ZONE. UM, THE THIRD ONE I PROPOSED WAS CONSIDER PLACING SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF. THE FOURTH WAS TO CONSIDER, UH, DUAL PIPE PLUMBING WITHIN THE BUILDING. AND THE FIFTH ONE WAS UTILIZED CLASS THAT HAD A REFLECTIVITY OF LESS THAN 15% TO BIRD STRIKES. AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT YOU, AS A COMMISSION CAN RECOMMEND. THEY EXPLORE WHEN WE'RE WORKING OUT THE POD. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NEIL WAS NEXT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, WE CAN PUT THE EXHIBIT BACK UP. IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE TRAIL EASEMENT, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER MAY SEE IF HE WANTS TO DO THE TRAIL AGAIN. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. ONE MOMENT. THAT'S COOL. CAUSE I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE TRAIL ALSO. SO MACIO, DO YOU HAVE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE TRAIL WITH THIS, UH, DIAGRAM? UH, BECAUSE, UH, YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL MUCH ON, ON THIS SCALE, [00:25:01] BUT I JUST, I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT EASEMENT WAS SO HUGE. OKAY. HOW ABOUT COMMISSIONER NEIL? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAILS? DID YOU SAY? YEAH, SO I THINK I HEARD MR. WAYLON SAY WE WENT FROM SOUTH SADO TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE SOUTH. IS THAT REFERRING TO THAT PROPERTY WITH, UH, STRUCTURES ON IT OR THE TRIANGULAR SHAPED, UH, NATURAL BOTTLE LAND DIRECTLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS IMAGE, THE TRIANGULAR SHAPED LAND DIRECTLY AT THE BOTTOM. OKAY. UM, AND SO, YEAH, I'M ALSO CURIOUS, CAUSE I, I SAW THAT 50 FOOT TRAIL IN THE BACKUP. UM, AND I HAD TO THINK LIKE WHAT IS ACTUALLY 50 FEET? AND I THINK, UH, I THINK A LOT OF THE TRAVEL LANES AND AUSTIN ARE LIKE BETWEEN NINE AND 11 FEET. SO I THOUGHT LIKE, WELL, THIS IS PROBABLY ABOUT AS WIDE AS ANDERSON LANE, YOU KNOW, OR ANOTHER FIVE LANE STREET. UM, BUT HEARING THAT IT'S AN EASEMENT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN A 50 FOOT WIDE TRAIL. UM, SO YEAH, I'M CURIOUS, LIKE, LIKE IF THE EASEMENT IS 50 FEET, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE THINKING IS LIKE THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN THE ACTUAL TRAIL, MAYBE WHAT THE TRAIL WOULD BE MADE OUT OF AND THEN WHAT YOU WOULD PLAN ON DOING WITH THE SPACE AND THE EASEMENT OUTSIDE OF THE TRAIL AND, AND WHY YOU NEED, WHY YOU WANT A 50 FOOT EASEMENT CONDITIONED, MICHAEL WAYLAND'S THE 50 FOOT EASEMENT, WHICH RUNS FROM SADO UP THERE AT THE NORTH AND THEN RUNS DOWN THE EASTERN, UH, PROPERTY LINE AND THEN RUNS ALONG THE, TO THAT SOUTHERN TRIANGLE. THAT'S AS FAR AS IT GOES, IT'S JUST AN EASEMENT SO THAT YOU HAVE YOU, THE CITY HAVE THE LAND TO THEN UTILIZE IT WITH A TRAIL AS YOU SEE FIT. ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND AND HEAR WHAT, UH, MS. PHILLIPS IS SAYING. AND WE'LL DEFINITELY ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, REDUCING THE SIZE OF THAT BECAUSE IT DOES ALONG THAT EASTERN BORDER, ACROSS THE CREEK, AT ONE POINT, I THINK THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT USUALLY WEIGHS IN TO WHAT TYPE OF MATERIALS ARE USED ON THOSE TRIALS. I COULD BE OFF, BUT I THINK WHEN THEY WANT IT, THEY COME BACK. WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS SUCH AS THAT. MY QUESTION TO STAFF IS, UM, WHAT IS AN ADA COMPLIANT TRAIL? HOW MANY FEET AHEAD I MIGHT FLIP IT? SO THIS IS HOW THEIR CAPITAL PLANNING AND ZONING. UH, BEFORE I HEARD THE END OF THE QUESTION, I MIGHT HAVE TO DEFER TO EISA. UM, MY RECOLLECTION, IT DEPENDS, IT ALSO RELATES TO THE MATERIALS USE AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S INTENDED FOR BICYCLE USE AND PEDESTRIAN AND ADA COMPLIANT USE, UH, EIGHT TO 10 FEET. UM, AGAIN, THIS WILL BE REVIEWED AT TIME OF THE PUD SUBMITTAL AND MESS ME ANY CITY OR REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT IS TRUE. THE TRAIL WILL BE, UH, THE SORRY, THE SAFE PHILIPS, THE TRAIL WILL BE REVIEWED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN FOR COMPLIANCE, BUT FOR AN ADA PATH, IT HAS TO BE A HARD SURFACE, WHICH COULD BE, UM, DG COMPACTED TO A CERTAIN, UH, PROCTOR, OR IT COULD BE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT. UM, MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAIL, UM, IS THAT WITHIN THE CRITICAL, IT MAY BE NARROWS TO A SMALLER WIDTH. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, STANDARD TODAY WITHOUT A VARIANCE WOULD BE 12 FEET FOR A PUBLIC TRAIL. IS THAT A MAXIMUM OR A MINIMUM 12 FEET MAXIMUM WITHOUT A VARIANCE, THEY COULD ALWAYS COME TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION FOR A VARIANCE TO THAT. OKAY. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOWUP QUESTIONS. IF ANYONE HAS MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAIL. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT MOST OF THE TIME TRAILS HAVE MAYBE A TWO OR THREE FOOT EASEMENT ON EACH SIDE OF THE TRAIL. SO IF YOU HAVE A 12 FOOT TRAIL AND THEN THREE FEET ON EACH SIDE, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM WIDTH. SO THAT'S WHY I'M STILL A LITTLE BAFFLED ABOUT THIS 50 FEET, WHY THAT'S NECESSARY. UM, LET ME JUST, NOT THOMPSON HAS SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL GO. I MEAN, COMMISSIONER NEIL HAS SOME FOLLOW UPS AND THEN WE'LL COME TO COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. OKAY. I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT THE TRAIL. [00:30:01] OKAY, GO AHEAD THEN. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT, BUT WHILE CREEK TRAIL IS USED A LOT BY PEDESTRIANS AND A CYCLIST IT'S 20 FEET WIDE. AND A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE SCARY SITUATIONS WHEN PEOPLE ARE PASSING, THIS TRAIL IS RELATIVELY STRAIGHT, SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE GOOD VISUALS. SO WE WON'T HAVE SOME OF THE SAME PROBLEMS, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING, UH, TRAILS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE A BIT LARGER IF THEY WERE GOING TO BE USED BY, UM, MULTIPLE, IF IT'S A BIKE TRAIL, IF IT'S BIKE PEDESTRIAN AND ADA, WE WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAD ENOUGH. AND ESPECIALLY IF THIS HAS BEEN TO BE A TRANSPORTATION HUB, I THINK THAT IT'S REASONABLE TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE THE EASEMENT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, UM, WE COULD ONLY HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE PEOPLE USING IT. THANKS. DO YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP? UH, YES. I THINK I HEARD CHRIS HARRINGTON TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, SO I'LL LET HIM GO. THANK YOU, CHRIS HARRINGTON ENVIRONMENT OFFICER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S CLARIFICATION, THIS IS JUST THE EASEMENT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS JUST THE APPLICANT GIVING LAND TO THE CITY FOR US TO LATER CONSTRUCT A TRAIL. UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING DOCUMENTS AS A CITY ABOUT HAVING DUAL TRACK TRAILS. SO PHYSICALLY SEPARATED TRAILS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONFLICTS THAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON THAT YOU WERE RAISING. SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL WIDTH CAN ALLOW FOR MEANDERING AROUND TREES IF NECESSARY DURING THE DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL TRAIL. AND SO I THINK I'M DEFINITELY HEARING CONCERN ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE TRAIL AND MS. PHILLIPS. AND I CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT BACK INTO CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT, THIS BEING A DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS ELICIT ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE OR ANY SPECIFIC SUPERIORITY ITEMS THAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK TO, OR ANY SPECIFIC CODE MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU, UM, HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CRUZ. THANK YOU. UM, AND I'D SAY, I THINK A 50 FOOT EASEMENT MAKES SENSE. A 50 FOOT TRAIL DEFINITELY SEEMS LIKE OVERKILL, BUT, BUT I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND, UM, I'M LOOKING AT THE SLIDE DECK, UH, THAT HAS A EIGHTH, HIS NAME AT THE TOP, THE ENVIRONMENT AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M LOOKING AT THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT LIGHT BLUE IS. ALTHOUGH I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE EAST OF THE SITE, IT GETS VERY NARROW WHERE IT'S EXTREMELY BROAD, UM, ON THE SITE. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I WAS READING THAT MAP CORRECTLY. THIS IS EIGHTH OF PHILLIPS. IS THIS THE AERIAL THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE BACKUP? YEAH, IT'S THE TWO PAGE, UM, BACKUP WITH, UM, THE ADDITIONAL SUGGESTED SUPERIORITIES AND THE SECOND PAGE IS AN ARIEL, A SATELLITE IMAGE WITH SOME STUFF LAYERED ON TOP. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. THAT'S ACTUALLY THE BREAK WITHIN THE WATERSHED SHOWING THE TANNEHILL BRANCH AND THE BOGGY CREEK CREEK. OKAY. I'M REFERRING TO THE, THE LIGHT BLUE SHADING, I THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO REFER. YEAH. SO THAT'S THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. YOU'LL SEE A LABEL WITH ARROWS POINTING TO THE EXTENT EXTENTS. OKAY. YEAH. AND I WAS JUST ASKING ME CAUSE TO THE EAST, IT'S JUST EXTREMELY NARROW AND TO THE WEST IS EXTREMELY BROAD. SO THAT WAS THE CONFUSING THING FOR ME. I THINK IT GETS CHANNELIZED OR MAYBE THERE IT'S MORE OF A SHALLOW CHANNEL WHERE IT'S BROAD AND THEN IT'S A DEEPER CHANNEL ACROSS, CAUSE IT GOES PROBABLY THROUGH A CULVERT UNDERNEATH THE SHADY LANE. GOT IT. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. UM, AND THEN, UH, I GOT TWO MORE QUESTIONS. UM, FIRST, UH, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE SILVA SOULS. I'D NEVER HEARD OF THEM. THEY SOUND AWESOME. UM, AND SO I, IN THE DIAGRAM THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE PAVEMENT OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE, WHATEVER SURFACE IS GOING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE TREE TRUNK AND THEN THE ROOTS ARE SPRAWLING UNDERNEATH IN THE CELLS. SO I'M WONDERING IF, IF AN APPLICATION FOR THE SILVA CELLS IS THAT IF YOU USE THEM, YOU CAN DISREGARD THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE REGULATIONS OR IF THAT COULD BE YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S IT, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YEAH. [00:35:01] SO SIMPLE CELLS WORK. THEY BASICALLY PROVIDE AN UNDERGROUND STRUCTURE WHERE YOU CAN PUT SOIL IN THOSE STRUCTURES. AND SO IT ALLOWS THE TREES TO HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, SOIL. SO IT'S USUALLY USED WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF PAVING AROUND SO THAT THE TREES HAVE SOIL UNDER THE GROUND. UM, THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEY DON'T ALWAYS HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS TO OXYGEN. AND SO, BECAUSE THEY'RE UNDER A HARD SURFACE AND YOU HAVE TO OF COURSE WATER THEM BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY MAY NOT GET A WATER. SO IF YOUR IRRIGATION BROKE, UH, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THAT TREE MAY NOT GET WATERED. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE REGULATIONS? WOULD, WOULD THIS BE LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT? WELL, YEAH, THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF THAT, THOSE REGULATIONS. YEAH. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR NEWLY PLANTED TREES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE KIND OF CREATING THIS BAKE SITUATION FOR THIS TREE TO LIVE IN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS THIS TREE GREW, UH, I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHAT CONDITION IT WOULD BE IN. IF YOU WERE TRYING TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE, IT MIGHT BE IN REALLY GOOD CONDITION. IT MAY NOT BE IN GREAT CONDITION AND SO CRITICAL OVER, SORRY, THE ENVIRONMENT OFFICER, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE CITY ARBORIST AND WE WILL RESPOND BACK. UM, I'M SORRY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TODAY, BUT WE WILL GET IT TO YOU. OKAY. THANKS. YEAH, NO, I SAW THAT IMAGE AND THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF WAS HOW THOSE, THESE THINGS WILL RELATE TO EACH OTHER. UM, AND THEN I HAVE ONE FINAL QUESTION AND THEN I WILL PASS THE MIC, WHICH IS ONE OF THE NEWS ITEMS I'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT LATELY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM OFFICES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT OFFICE WILL BE USED HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO RESIDENTIAL. UM, BUT IN THAT CONTEXT FOR PEOPLE AREN'T OFFICES ALSO, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE PANDEMIC WILL BE OVER WHEN THIS IS BUILT. SO IT MAY NOT BE RELEVANT WHEN IT GETS BUILT, BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO REMEDIATE THIS SITE? SO YOU COULD DO RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS MICHAEL WAYLAND. MY MAY I ANSWER CARE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, WE HAVEN'T, WE THIS AGAIN, MICHAEL WHALEN. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. UM, FIRST, IF I CAN, FOR 15 SECONDS ON THE SILVA CELLS, AS, UH, MS. PHILLIPS SAID, THOSE WOULD ONLY BE FOR NEW TREES BECAUSE THERE ARE STREET REQUIREMENT, THERE ARE STREET TREE REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT ALSO, UH, REQUIRE TREES ON OUR INTERNAL CIRCULATION ROUTE UNDER SUBCHAPTER E. AND SO THEY'RE ONLY FOR THE NEW TREES THAT ARE BEING PLANTED, NOT FOR ANY EXISTING TREES. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. SECOND ON THE REMEDIATION. THERE ARE, UNFORTUNATELY, IN ADDITION TO CONTAMINATED SOILS ALSO TO PLUMES PRETTY LARGE HYDROCARBON PLUMES IN THE GROUNDWATER, WHICH IS WHAT HAS CREATED THE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED. UM, WE HAVE NOT INVESTIGATED WHETHER IT IS EVEN PHYSICALLY OR FINANCIALLY POSSIBLE TO REMOVE PRIMARILY PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO REMOVE ALL OF THE GROUNDWATER WITHOUT HAVING MORE GROUNDWATER REPLACE IT OR KNOWING FOR SURE THAT IT HAS ALL BEEN REMOVED. SO, UH, WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT AND, UH, RESEARCH AND, UH, WE DO KNOW FROM PRELIMINARY STUDY, FROM PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, BEYOND ANYTHING THAT AT LEAST WE COULD DO, UNFORTUNATELY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TRYING TO INSTEAD RESTORE, UH, TO, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE THE LAND WITH, UH, WITH A, A PRETTY VAST MITIGATION PLAN FOR TREES AND, UH, AND, AND, AND REMOVING INVASIVE SPECIES. OKAY. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU. UM, THIS, IF WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND WE WANT TO DRILL DOWN MORE, WE CAN HAVE A WORKING FOR IT REGARDING THIS PUD AT A LATER TIME. UM, MR. HARRINGTON HAS SEVERAL QUESTIONS TO COME BACK WITH SOME FULL FORCE AS AN ACTUAL VOTE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY, UH, FUNCTIONAL GREEN IS BEING APPLIED TO THIS OR HOW, HOW IT IS BEING APPLIED TO THIS PLAN. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION [00:40:01] ON DUKE PIPING AND HOW THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY, UH, SUPERIOR. AND THEN, UM, I GUESS, UH, WHAT THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN, THIS WAS A REALLY DISGUSTING SITE FOR MANY, MANY, MANY CENTURIES. SO IT'S AMAZING. THEY'RE EVEN BEING ABLE TO BUILD ON THIS WITH RESTRICTIONS. CERTAINLY. I'M GLAD THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO MORE BECAUSE I WOULD, I'D BE SCARED AT WHAT MIGHT BUBBLE UP, BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE MORE TIME FOR THIS. WE CAN FUNNEL MORE QUESTIONS FORWARD. MR. THOMPSON HAS SOMETHING PRISTIQ, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. YOU HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE HEIGHT, UM, THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR NEXT TO AND WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WERE AND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THEM IN TERMS OF SHADE AND LIGHT AND SUNSHINE AND SO FORTH. AND, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF IN THE PRESENTATION THEY HAD APPLIED AT MOST 13 AND I SAW SOME COMMENTS AND STEP BACK UP, BUT I SAW A LOT OF MEANINGFUL AND ENVISION AND PLANS TO USE. AND SO I'M GLAD WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS WONDERING IS IT BECAUSE THIS IS IN, UM, CERTAIN TRANSIT QUARTERS, UM, IF WE COULD, I MEAN, MAYBE PEOPLE WANT TO FORGET ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE THAT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE IS AN AREA WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL BE, IF WE COULD, UM, JUST MAYBE SUGGEST SOME SORT OF HISTORIC FOOTNOTE OR, UM, SOMETHING TO SAY THAT IN THIS PLACE YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THE TANK FARMS AND THROUGH COMMUNITY EFFORTS AND SO FORTH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. AND, UM, I WAS INTERESTED IN THE TWO TIER THE PIPES THAT YOU MENTIONED AS WELL. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY, MY LAST COMMENT IS THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR US TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PROCESS FOR THIS PUD. SO DID YOU GET ALL THAT MR. HARRINGTON? YES, MA'AM. WE DID. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON UNLESS THERE'S ANY, OH, OKAY. HI, THIS IS MICHAEL. WELL, I WOULD JUST LET, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS. WE MET WITH THE CONTACT TEAM BEFORE WE FILED THE DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT AND, UH, WE MET CITY STAFF AND I MET WITH AS WELL IN ADVANCE, UH, OR JUST AFTER WE HAD FILED IT. SO WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY ENGAGED AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE CONTACT TEAM AND THE DIRECT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE SPRINGDALE AIRPORT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL. JUST ONE QUICK THING THAT IS, I HELPED BECAUSE I WAS WORKING FOR CLEAN WATER ACTION THERE. AND I WAS ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT ACTUALLY GOT THEM TO LEAVE. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BAD SAYINGS FROM THERE GOING INTO THE LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE WERE ACTUALLY LIVING. REMEMBER THAT MADAM CHAIR, I THINK YOU'RE MUTED STONE. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU, STAFF. WE WILL SEE YOU AT ANOTHER TIME. THANK YOU MR. WAYLAND FOR MAKING THIS AVAILABLE TO US TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [3. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND POSSIBLE ACTION ] OKAY. WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE, A YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE GOODWILL STORE S P SLASH 2019 DASH ZERO ONE SEVEN ONE C. WE, THIS IS LOCATED 24 11, LIKE AUSTIN BOULEVARD, AUSTIN, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT, SEVEN THREE DISTRICT 10. WE WILL BE TAKING A VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR POD. UM, AND WE HAVE IS SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON THIS. UH, THIS IS RENEE JOHNSON FOR SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND I WILL BE, IT'S NOT A PRESENTATION SO MUCH. IT'S JUST TALKING POINTS, BUT THAT WILL BE ME. AND WE WILL ALSO HAVE YEAH. ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWER ON THE PHONE AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT. EXCELLENT. OKAY. LET'S PROCEED WITH THIS ITEM. OKAY. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS AGAIN. THIS IS RENEE JOHNS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I'M THE CASE MANAGER FOR THE SITE PLAN. UM, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS [00:45:01] THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LAKE AUSTIN BOULEVARD AND HEARNE STREET LOCATED IN THE DEEP EDDY UNIVERSITY SUB-DISTRICT OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. CURRENTLY THE SITE IS A VACANT SERVICE STATION WITH 89% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A TWO STORY GOODWILL WITH UNDERGROUND PARKING. THIS SUB-DISTRICT OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY LIMITS, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ONSITE TO 40%, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS OF VARIANTS TO KEEP THE SITE AT 89% IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, WHICH DOES DIFFER FROM THE BACKUP THAT WAS SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT AT THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, VARIANCE PROCESS REQUIRES VARIANCES TO RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION, BOTH FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, HENCE FIBER HERE, AND THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE BY THE LAND USE COMMISSION. SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BEFORE RECOMMENDING THIS OVARIAN STAFF CONSIDERED THAT THIS VARIANCE IS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY THE PECULIARITIES OF THE SITE, WHICH INCLUDE THAT THIS IS A SMALL INFILL SITE. IT WAS MADE SMALLER THROUGH HER RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION ALONG LAKE OFTEN BOULEVARD, WHICH REDUCED THE BIDDABLE, THE BUILDABLE AREA FURTHER. THERE THERE'S A CURRENT JOINT JOINT USE ACCESS EASEMENT, UM, WHICH DELIMITS DESIGN POTENTIAL. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS COMPATIBILITY TRIGGERED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH ALSO LIMITS THE HEIGHT POTENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY. ADDITIONALLY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED SITE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SURFACE PARKING PROVIDED OR PROVIDED, AND IT IS NOT WHAT WE LIKE TO REFER TO AS OVER PARKED. IT REMOVES THE BROWNFIELD SITE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL OR IN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. IT EXCEEDS WATER QUALITY AND DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS BY TREATING OFFSITE RUNOFF AND INCORPORATES RAIN GARDENS ONSITE AS PART OF WATER QUALITY CONTROLS. IT PROVIDES END OF TRIP FACILITIES, WHICH INCLUDES SHOWERING AND LOCKERS AND BARK PIPE OR BIKE PARKING, AND IT REMOVES EXISTING AND PREVIOUSLY CONTAMINATED SOIL TO EXCEED TCEQ STANDARDS. THANK YOU, PLEASE. OR PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OH, GOOD. JUST ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. I KNOW COMMISSIONER COYNE HAS TO LEAVE EARLY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER COIN? I DON'T THINK YOU CAN THINK OF, OKAY. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. GO AHEAD. DID I UNDERSTAND TO SAY, UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS FROM 89 TO 83 IMPERVIOUS COVER. IS THAT NOT BEING CHANGED? SO, UM, SO I CAN ALL SPEAK TO THIS AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT JUMP IN AS WELL. UM, SO THE PROPOSED SITE RIGHT NOW IS THAT 83 DUE TO THE TIGHTNESS OF THE SITE. IT WAS, UM, REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF GREED TO MAINTAIN THE 89% DUE TO ANY ISSUES IN THE FIELD AND NOT HAVING TO COME BACK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN AND UPDATE THE, UM, VARIANCE IF NEED BE. AND AGAIN, THIS IS A TIGHT SITE AND THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE GOING OVER THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. SO THAT IS WHY IT WAS CHANGED. HE HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION AND IT IS, UM, THE NOISE LEVEL. I WAS READING THE BACKUP AND I WONDERED IF THE NOISE LEVEL WOULD BE LIMITED DURING THE HOURS OF OPERATION. AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT'S, IT HAS HOUSING. YEAH. THERE ARE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT DO LIMIT A NOISE. I BELIEVE IT'S 70 DECIMALS. UM, BUT IT IS RESTRICTED THE TIMES AT THE TIME TIMES FROM LIKE SEVEN TO SEVEN IN THE EVENING OR SEVEN TO SIX OR SEVEN TO FIVE, I KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION CAN ONLY TAKE PLACE DURING CERTAIN HOURS. SO I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THIS. I BELIEVE CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS WOULD STILL APPLY TO THIS SITE, SO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO ADHERE TO THOSE, UH, CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES. THANK YOU. UM, I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THE IMPERVIOUS COVER UP, I UNDERSTOOD IT TO MEAN THAT IT'S CURRENTLY 83% AND THAT THEY WOULD NOT EXCEED THE CURRENT IMPERVIOUS COVER. YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT, UM, CLOSEST 89% CURRENTLY. SO IT WOULD NOT EXCEED 89. THERE WAS AN IDEA TO, UM, REDUCE IT TO 83, BUT, UM, THAT DIDN'T SEEM FEASIBLE. AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS SOME TO SAY ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO ALL THAT CANDACE SPEAK [00:50:01] GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS CANDACE CRAIG WITH DUNAWAY. UM, WE'RE THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, RIGHT NOW WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS 83%. THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS FLEXIBILITY IS TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY, UM, UNEXPECTED CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, UM, CONSTRUCTION PHASE ISSUES, UM, THAT MIGHT ON A SITE IN CASE THERE ARE ANY OTHER, ANYTHING THAT IT'S ENCOUNTERED THAT IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN RECORD PLANS, UM, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER EXCEPT FOR FIFTH DRIVEWAY CONNECTION TO HER AND STRAIGHT THAT WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH UT ON. UM, AND, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT CONNECTION UNLESS UT APPROVES IT. SO THAT IS WHY WE'RE, UM, ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY JUST TO, UM, THE, A LITTLE BIT PRAGMATIC AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET OURSELVES IN TROUBLE DURING CONSTRUCTION PHASE. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, AND I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND PARKING AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW DEEP YOU GUYS WOULD BE EXCAVATING, UM, MAYBE IN COMPARISON TO THE EXCAVATION FOR THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS FOR THE GAS STATION. AND IF THERE WAS ANY INVESTIGATIONS YOU GUYS DID RELATED TO, UH, GROUNDWATER MOVEMENT CONTRIBUTING TO DEEP BETTY, UM, AND IF YOU KNEW KIND OF WHERE THAT GROUNDWATER WAS COMING FROM AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE IN CONFLICT WITH IT. THANKS. THIS IS CANDACE CRAIG AGAIN. UM, WE DID HAVE A INVESTIGATION PERFORMED BY TERROR CON. UM, IT IS A SOIL AND GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM, WE ARE REMOVING SOME OF THE, SOME SOIL, UM, AS PART OF A DEMOLITION PLAN AND THIS AND THIS, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS REPORT, UM, PARKING IS, UH, TAKING ACCESS THROUGH THE LOAD SIDE OF THE SITE ALONG FOSTER. AND, UM, THE EXCAVATION IS JUST ENOUGH AND I, I, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE HEIGHT OF THAT EXCAVATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW. UM, IT'S, IT LIVES IN THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS. UM, SO YES, WE HAVE THAT REPORT AND, UM, WE'RE REMOVING SOME SOIL PURPOSE PLAN. PERFECT. ONE LAST FOLLOW UP. I'M LOOKING AT THE BACKUP. THERE WAS AN EXHIBIT ON PAGE EIGHT OF THE PRESENTATION THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHAT LOOKS TO BE KIND OF A SINGLE LEVEL UNDERGROUND PARKING. IS THAT, IS IT JUST GOING DOWN ONE LEVEL OR IS IT GOING DOWN MULTIPLE LEVELS, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? JUST ONE LEVEL. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD. YES. MADAM CHAIR, THE APPLICANT WOULD POTENTIALLY LIKE TO SPEAK IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF WE'D LIKE TO GIVE HER A STANDARD THREE MINUTES, THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU DIVE INTO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. APPLICANT. ARE YOU HERE? YES. THANK YOU CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CANDACE CRAIG CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS GOOD LITTLE PROJECT. UM, WHERE HERE ARE QUITE A THING, YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS VARIANCE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. WE STARTED MEETING WITH STAFF EARLY ON DURING OUR CONCEPT PLANNING STAGE AND CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE NEED A VARIANCE FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, WE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN, WORKED WITH STAFF FROM SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS OF THE LAST 15 MONTHS TO CLEAR COMMENTS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL DRAINAGE, WATER QUALITY, OUR BREAST CANCER PATIENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND UTILITIES. AND THIS VARIANCE IS OUR LAST STEP OF THIS PROCESS. UM, OUR SITE COMPLIES WITH CURRENT WATERSHED REGULATIONS USING STRUCTURAL SEDIMENTATION FILTRATION PONDS, AS WELL AS THE RAIN GARDEN. UM, WE ALSO HAVE DISCONNECTED DOWNSPOUTS, SO WATER CAN INFILTRATE ON SITE BEFORE, UM, UM, GOING TO THE RAIN GARDEN AND THEN I'M GOING, AND THEN EVENTUALLY ANYTHING LEFTOVER STORMS, STORM DRAIN. UM, LIKE THE SAID, WE MINIMIZE PARKING 25 SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND WE'RE PROVIDING 25 SPACES. AND, UM, MORE OVER ALL THE SPACES ARE UNDER THE BUILDING. SO THERE'S NO SURFACE PARKING. UM, WE ALSO PROPOSE SHOWERS AND LOCKERS THAT MAKE CYCLING MORE ATTRACTIVE AS A MODE OF TRANSPORTATION TO, UM, [00:55:02] TO THE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT WORK THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S PRETTY GOOD BUS SERVICE ALONG WITH THE AUSTIN IS SPOTIFY, UM, UH, UT SHUTTLE ROUTE. UM, AND WE HAVE SHADED SIDEWALKS, UM, LIKE AUSTIN BOULEVARD THAT IMPROVES THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, WALKING TO STOPS OR VISITING THE BUSINESSES ON THE STREET. UM, AS WITH MENTIONED THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AT THE GAS STATION, THE THERE WAS A UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK THAT WAS REMOVED. AND IN NIGHTS IN 2019, WE CLEARED TCEQ REQUIREMENT. UM, THE SITE IS, UM, CURRENTLY BEING DEMOLISHED. AND IN ADDITION THAT, UM, THE REPORT THAT I MENTIONED, THE, UM, SOIL AND GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN WASN'T REQUIRED BY TCQ. BUT, UM, WITH THAT PLAN, WE IDENTIFIED AREAS OF, UM, THE SOIL THAT WE SHOULD EXCAVATE AND PROPERLY DISPOSE THAT A, UM, LICENSE. SO, UM, AS WITH THAT, CURRENTLY THERE'S 89% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE SITE. THE SITE PLAN SHOWS 83% AND WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON INCREASING THAT, UM, UM, BY MORE THAN 1%, UM, UNLESS WE FIND OUT DURING CONSTRUCTION THAT WE HAVE SOME UNEXPECTED, UM, YOU KNOW, SITUATION. SO THAT'S THE, WE'RE REQUESTING A VARIANCE. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME CONSIDERATION AND I'M HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, IS, WILL THAT BE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE 68 DEGREES KITCHEN, OR WILL THAT TAKE AWAY THAT RESTAURANT OR, OR THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA BECAUSE I LIVE QUITE CLOSE TO IT ACTUALLY. DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TAKING DOWN THE, UH, THE GAS STATION AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR PLACE WILL BE? OR WHAT DO YOU BE IN FRONT OF THE, IN FRONT OF THE 68 DEGREES KITCHEN? OR ARE YOU GONNA TAKE AWAY THAT RESTAURANT SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE IT IS. SO WE ARE ADJACENT, THIS IS THE CANVAS CRAIG. WE ARE ADJACENT TO THE 68 DEGREES RESTAURANT. WE SHARE A DRIVEWAY WITH THEM, THE REST OF IT, BUT IN FRONT OF THE, OF THE STREET, RIGHT. UM, PER SUB CHAPTER, A, OUR BUILDING IS SITUATED, UM, TO, UM, TO THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE STREET. SO, LIKE I SAID, WE ARE SHARING THE JOINT USE DRIVEWAY, UM, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED IS A JOINT USE DRIVEWAY WITH A 68 DEGREES BUILDING. AND THAT STATE SAY THAT AGAIN SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT PRISM I'VE GOT MY MAP RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. SO IT WAS, ARE YOU GOING TO BE TO THE WEST OF THE 68 DEGREES KITCHEN? YES. CORRECT. WE ARE, SHOULD THE WEST. WE ARE WHERE THE GAS STATION IS RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER NEIL. WOO YOU'RE MUTED. THANK YOU. YOU HEAR ME NOW? I THINK, YEAH. OKAY. UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SATELLITE MAP AND I HEARD THAT THERE WAS COMPATIBILITY TO THE WEST. IS THAT THE COLORADO APARTMENTS THAT ARE TRIGGERING COMPATIBILITY? UH, YES IT IS. THEY ARE ACTUALLY ZONED AS A THREE. SO WHILE THEY ARE APARTMENT COMPATIBILITY IS STILL TRIGGERED. YEAH. I SAW THAT IN THE ZONING TABLE, WHICH IS, I SAW IT SAID SF THREE AND THEN MULTIFAMILY. SO I HAD TO PULL IT UP ON THE SATELLITE. UM, SO I'M, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL I'M PRETTY HAPPY TO TRADE HEIGHT FOR REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER. IF WE WAVED YOUR COMPATIBILITY, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU COULD DO? UM, HIGH COMPATIBILITY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE. UM, OKAY. I GUESS I, I THOUGHT WE COULD WAIVE THAT CONDITION. UH, MAYBE I, NO, I THINK WHAT YOU CAN WAVE IS, UH, ITEMS IN THE SETBACK. UM, BUT NOT SUCH AS, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GREEN PATHWAYS, BUT HIGH IS NOT OPTION. UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WELL, I GUESS THOSE APARTMENTS [01:00:01] WILL RETAIN THEIR COMPATIBILITY. UNFORTUNATELY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OH, OKAY. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, I GUESS THIS IS FOR WATERSHED. I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO VOTE TO LIFT, UH, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY OR, UM, THAT OVERLAY IS VERY SIGNIFICANT AND WAS PUT THERE FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. MY QUESTION IS, WILL THIS TRIGGER BY VOTING FOR THIS CASE? WILL WE TRIGGER A DOMINO EFFECT AS THIS, THIS, THIS IS AREA WITH DEVELOPS AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO MARTIN SPORT. I MEAN, UM, WELL THIS, UM, UM, D BETTY AND THE RIVER, AND THEN I ALSO WONDER IF, YOU KNOW, UH, BY GRANTING THIS VARIANCE, HOW MANY OTHER OF THOSE, UH, BUILDINGS WITHIN LIKE SAY A MILE RADIUS OR WITHIN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY? CAN ANYONE ANSWER THAT FOR ME? MADAM CHAIR, CHRIS HARRINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL, SIR, I'LL MAKE AN ATTEMPT AT AT LEAST PART OF THAT QUESTION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE CREATING A NEW PRECEDENT. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD CERTAINLY CONSIDER IN OUR RECOMMENDATION. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS, UH, I THINK BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS COMING IN AND SEEKING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION THAT DOES PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO WATER QUALITY THAT WOULDN'T EXIST TODAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CERTAINLY STRONGLY SUPPORT IS, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION AND TO IMPROVE ENVIRONMENTAL OUTCOMES WHILE STILL FURTHERING DEVELOPMENT GOALS OF THE CITY. SO I THINK SINCE WE EVALUATE THESE ON A SITE BY SITE BASIS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WOULD CREATE A DOMINO EFFECT. HOWEVER, I WILL SAY WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CASE COMING, UM, FOR A DIFFERENT, UM, WATERFRONT OVERLAY DISTRICT. UH, BUT SOME SIMILARITIES IN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE MOST LIKELY WILL ALSO BE RECOMMENDING. SO, UH, I JUST CAVEAT THAT REMARK IT'S IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DISTRICT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF . SO IT'S NOT THE SAME THING, BUT, UH, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A POSITIVE, ALTHOUGH I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS AT, UH, RESPECTING THE OVERLAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, IF PLANNING AND ZONING OR IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN EITHER. THANK YOU. BECAUSE MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE EXEMPTION AND, YOU KNOW, DO YOU SEE THIS EXEMPTION BEING USED AS A LEAD SCHOOL IN THE FUTURE FOR ADDITIONAL VARIANCES WITHIN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A POSITIVE FEELING TOWARDS IT. YES, MA'AM I DO. I DON'T SEE IT AS A, NECESSARILY A LOOPHOLE. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR, OUR 25 TWO AND OUR 25 EIGHT REGULATIONS HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CONFLICTS BETWEEN USE AND THE THINGS THAT WE REGULATE THROUGH ZONING VERSUS, UM, OUR WATER QUALITY CONCERNS IN PARTICULAR THAT WE REGULATE THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THAT 25 DASH EIGHT PORTION OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I MEAN, THERE, THERE, THERE IS TENSION THERE. AND SO, UH, IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE COMPATIBLE IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE AND THIS SPECIFIC SITE AND THAT THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A REDUCTION IN PERVIOUS COVER, BUT IT'S NOT AN INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND IT IS ADDING IN WATER QUALITY. UM, THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE CURRENT CONDITION COMMISSIONER. THOMPSON'S NEXT, PLEASE. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN THERE MANY TIMES AND BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING WHEN YOU GO TO DONATE, YOU HAVE EXHAUST AND IT'S JUST, IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. I THINK FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE TO HAVE PARKING WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, UNLOAD YOUR, UH, DONATIONS OR GO SHOPPING WITHOUT, UM, IDLING YOUR CAR AND WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO RUN OUT TO THE STREET AND TAKE YOUR DONATIONS IN. SO PARKING HAS ALWAYS BEEN DIFFICULT THERE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT. AND AS FAR AS EXCEPTIONS GO, UM, IF IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT IN WATER QUALITY, THEN I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, AS STAFF HAS SAID THAT IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE NOTE TO THAT, BUT THERE STILL IS A DROP OFF OPTION, BUT AGAIN, YES, THERE IS A PARKING AVAILABLE AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR MADAM CHAIR. YOU'RE YOU'RE BACK. NO, YOU'RE A COMEDIAN AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED OUR NEED WITH HER. I JUST DON'T LIKE THE HIGH IMPERVIOUS COVER. [01:05:01] IT JUST SEEMS A LOT THAT WHOLE AREA IS NOT BY MEN. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE LIGHT COMMISSIONER. I, CHRIS HARRINGTON INVESTMENT OFFICER. I CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE SLIGHT DIFFERENCE OF PERSPECTIVE ON A, BUT UM, TO, TO THE CHAIRS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR A VARIANCE TO THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. SO I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO CONSIDER THE APPLICABILITY, UM, AND THE PRECEDENCE ISSUE THAT YOU, AS YOU SEE IT, UM, IN TERMS OF MAKING A CHANGE TO THE OVERLAY, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, UM, SINCE THE OVERLAY, UH, WAS ORIGINALLY CONSIDERED IN, IN THE EARLY STUDIES, BUT IT IS STILL CODE. IT IS STILL THE POLICY OF THIS CITY. SO I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS AROUND HEIGHTS, UM, AND THE TRADE OFF POTENTIALLY, UH, THAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING OF. AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE EXACT TRADE OFF IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT THOSE TRADEOFFS BETWEEN THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO VARY PLUS VERSUS THE WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK IS THE POLICY QUESTION, UM, THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS BEING SOUGHT FOR ANYTHING FURTHER FROM ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER, GORDON, GORDON. I MEAN, I ALSO DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS, QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER MAY RECOGNIZE THIS THE SPINNER COMMERCIAL. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING A COMMERCIAL SITE, BUT AS CHRIS JUST POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, SAYS ALSO BARRON'S REQUEST. AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER STAFF HAS CONSIDERED THE FEASIBILITY MAN, IN ADDITION TO WATER QUALITY CONTROLS. ARE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEASURES THAT THE APPLICANT COULD BE INSTITUTING THAT MIGHT REDUCE IMPERVIOUS COVER? UM, RENEE JONES DSB I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S JUST A TIGHT SITE MADE TIGHTER THROUGH DEDICATIONS, AND AGAIN, THERE'S THAT EXISTING JOINT YOUTH ACCESS. UM, THERE'S REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT OF WIGGLE ROOM WITH THIS SITE. AND AGAIN, COMPATIBILITY MAKES THE HEIGHT NOT AND AN IDEA TO DO SO THERE'S NOT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAKING THE VARIANCE. IT'S, IT'S A HARD SITE. UM, IT HAS A LOT OF FACTORS THAT I DON'T THINK PERTAIN TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT SITES WITHIN THIS AREA DUE TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THE COMPATIBILITY. UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S JUST A REALLY TIGHT SITE. I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I MEAN, COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL HERE. SO IT'S DUKE PUT PEOPLE ON THE SPOT, BUT GO AHEAD AND I'LL DO IT ANYWAY. I MEAN, ARE THERE USES FOR THIS LAND THAT WE FORESEE BEING MORE COMPATIBLE COMMISSIONER GORDON, CHRIS HARRINGTON, VARMINT OFFICER. SO I WOULD WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE ASPECT. THIS IS NOT THE EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I THINK THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION. UM, CERTAINLY IN, WHEN WE CONSIDERED MODIFYING IT FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND TRYING TO OPEN IT UP SO THAT MORE FOLKS WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. BUT AGAIN, THE, THE, THE TRADE OFF, I THINK IF THE VARIANCE WAS DENIED, THAT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY COULD ONLY OCCUR. IF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER CONSISTENT WITH WATERFRONT OVERLAY WAS REDUCED TO 40%, HALF LESS THAN HALF OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY. SO IF WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE MARKET FORCES ARE SUCH THAT, UH, IMPROVE THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE AS A 40% IMPERVIOUS COVER COMPLIANT WITH WATERFRONT OVERLAY, MAYBE FEASIBLE. BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S AT A FAR POINT IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE, UM, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY. SO BY ITS IT'S THE TRADE OFF OF, DO WE GET MAYBE A PERFECT OUTCOME OF A REDUCTION IN IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CODE COMPLIANT, WATER QUALITY AT SOME POINT IN THE FAR OFF FUTURE. AND I THINK IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WOULD BE VERY FAR INTO THE FUTURE, OR DO WE ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED SUCH THAT WE HAVE THE, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT IS ON THE GROUND TODAY? UM, ACHIEVES, UH, WHAT I WOULD THINK OF IS POTENTIALLY A BETTER USE, BUT WE ALSO GET CODE COMPLIANT, WATER QUALITY TREATMENT. THAT'S KIND OF HOW I'VE VIEWED THE, THE, UM, UH, TRADE OFF DECISION THAT AS PART OF THE QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW, RENEE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I THINK THE ANSWERED WELL, AND I JUST ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY EXCEEDING SOME OF THE WATER QUALITY RECOMMENDATION OR REQUIREMENTS OF, UM, WHAT WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE FOR A SITE. SO THEY'VE DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE ISSUES AND ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT UNIQUE WAYS OF KIND OF SOLVING THOSE ISSUES AND COME UP WITH A WAY OF ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR. [01:10:01] UM, BUT TO ALSO BE THOUGHTFUL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS AS WELL. COMMISSIONER GORDON, DO YOU HAVE ANY THING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, I'M GOOD. THANKS. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THEN WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION. SECOND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON COMMISSIONER COIN IS OFF. SO THAT WILL BE A NINTH. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH, WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM THREE A I HAVE A MOTION TO PROPOSE FOR READY FOR THAT MATTER. SURE. OKAY. YOU MAY PROCEED ON AGENDA ITEM THREE, A, UH, SUBJECT GOODWILL STORE SP 2019 DASH ZERO ONE SEVEN ONE C. WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM CITY CODE 25 DASH TWO DASH SEVEN FOUR FOUR E THE UNIVERSITY DPT SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THIS REGULATION LIMITS IN PREVIOUS COVERAGE OF A SITE AREA OF EXCITE AREA, NOT INCLUDED IN A PRIMARY OR SECONDARY WATERFRONT OVERLAY SETBACK AT 40% IMPERVIOUS COVER. WHEREAS THE APPLICANT HAS ELECTED FOR THE SITE TO BE GOVERNED BY CITY CODE 25 DASH EIGHT DASH TWO SEVEN REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION IN THE WATER SUPPLY OF RURAL AND WATER SUPPLY, SUBURBAN WATERSHEDS. AND THE APPLICANT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION. AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZED THE STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS RATE VARIANCE BECAUSE IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF CITY CODE CHAPTER 25 DASH EIGHT, ENVIRONMENTAL. THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE VARIANCE FROM LDC 25 DASH TWO SEVEN FOUR CORE E UNIVERSITY, DEEPLY SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY WITH NO STAFF OR ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. YES. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. COULD WE MENTION IN THERE SOMETHING ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY? UM, I THINK THAT THE, THE TREATMENT, UM, ADDITIONAL WATER QUALITY TREATMENT MIGHT BE MENTIONED IN THAT, IN OUR RESOLUTION. ISN'T THAT ALREADY A GIVEN BY THE EXCEPTION. OKAY. IF I JUST FELT LIKE IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH MENTIONING, BUT IF IT'S A, IF YOU THINK IT'S UNDERSTOOD EXPLICITLY, THEN THAT'S FINE BECAUSE OF THE EXCEPTION. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. NO, UM, VSE CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WATER QUALITY FOR THE REDEVELOPED, UH, AREA. HOWEVER, THIS SITE IS ALSO PROVIDING WATER QUALITY FOR SOME OFFSITE WATER, AND THAT'S THE EXTRA THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT IS NOT REQUIRED BY, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION. SO SAYING IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO LIST IT OR ARE NOT IN OUR RECOMMENDATION, THE ONLY ADVANTAGE TO LISTING IT WOULD MEAN THAT, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT COULD NOT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. TAKE IT BACK. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. EXCELLENT. UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK? BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE NOW BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY STATED IN THE MOTION. DOES EVERYONE AGREE TO PUTTING IN THIS COMMENT? YEAH, YEAH. YES, YES, YES. OKAY. SO WE'RE ALL WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THAT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, MADAM CHAIR, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL RATIONALE, WHEREAS, OR IS THIS AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION? IT'S FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATION, ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS, BUT HOW WOULD YOU STATE AT CHRIS HARRINGTON? CHRIS HARRINGTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, UH, I THINK AS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITION, YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE MORE [01:15:01] THAN THE CODE REQUIRED, WATER QUALITY TREATMENT OR THE WATER MORE THAN THE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT REQUIRED BY CODE. THANK YOU, CHRIS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTION WAS SECOND. I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THE MOTION HAS RECEIVED A SECOND. MR. GORDON. I'LL SECOND. IT THERE. I'M NOT HEARING ANYTHING. YES. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR COMMISSIONER RAMBO TO READ IT BACK. JUST ONE MORE TIME. WHAT WAS THE CONDITION? SO WE ALL HAVE CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. YEAH, IT WAS, IT WAS DEAD SILENT. UM, UH, WITH THE FOLLOWING ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REQUIRES THE SITE EXCEEDED THE WATER QUALITY CONTROL REQUIREMENTS FOR APPLICABLE, I GUESS, FOR APPLICABLE CODE FOR THE LIKABLE CODE REQUIREMENTS. HOW ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION CONDITIONS, SITE EXCEEDS WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, OKAY. NOW WE CAN TAKE A VOTE. WE HAVE IT SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GORDON AND LET'S DO ROLL CALL. READY? CONDITIONER SMITH. MR. THOMPSON. NEIL. YES. COMMISSIONER NEELY. NO COMMISSIONER. MACIO COMMISSIONER RAMBERT. YES. COMMISSIONER GUERRERO. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER GORDON. YEAH. COMMISSIONER BID FOR, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S ONE, ONE EXTENSION. SO THAT LEAVES US WITH SEVEN, SEVEN ONE ONE MOTION CARRIES. FANTASTIC JOB. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. [4. COMMITTEE REPORTS] OKAY. COMMISSIONERS THAT BRINGS US DOWN TO THE FINISHING LINE AND ALL WE HAVE OUR REPORTS COMMITTEE REPORTS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE? I HAVE ONE, BUT DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ONE? OKAY. TODAY WE MET THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY AT THE WATER FRONT ADVISORY BOARD THAT TODAY AND A STATESMAN TRACK THAT ENDEAVOR HAS IS MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY BUT SURELY. UH, ENDEAVOR IS GOING TO LOOK NOW AT TAKING ON ADDING THIS ROAD. THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S KIND OF NEW PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PARK'S GOING TO START LOOKING LIKE. AND SO WE DECIDED MAYBE WE NEEDED OUR WORKING GROUPS, SO WE COULD MORPH WITH PARKS, PARKS, AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES. AND, UM, THEN I HAD A, UH, COMMISSIONER RAISE ONCE AGAIN, CONCERNS ABOUT THE BAT COLONY AND HOW THIS DEVELOPMENT MIGHT, UH, IMPACT THE BATS RIGHT THERE. SINCE IT WILL BE PROBABLY A THREE OR FOUR YEAR BUILD OUT. AND SO WE HAD, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE COME SPEAK TO US ABOUT THE BATS, AND THEN WHEN COVID HAPPENED, EVERYTHING KIND OF DROPPED OFF THE RADAR, BUT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER BRINGING SOMEONE BACK INTO, TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE POTENTIAL BAT ISSUE. MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, IF NOT, UM, I THINK WE'VE WORKED THROUGH SOME FEE ISSUES. UM, AND I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH ENDEAVOR AS THIS PROGRESSES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER REPORTING, IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION AND WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AT FOUR 24. HAVE A GOOD ONE. BYE BYE. BE CAREFUL. TAKE CARE. BYE BYE [01:20:04] NEPHEW. I GOT SUE BROWN. FROM MY FROG BOARD. YOU CAN SEE, I GOT . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.