* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Additional Item] [00:00:06] I'M GOING TO CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. WE HAVE A UNUSUAL MEETING TONIGHT. LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. SO WE'LL CALL THAT QUORUM. UM, WE HAVE A, WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER TONIGHT. SO FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THE LINE, WHO'S CALLING IN TO SPEAK ON CASES. IF YOU CAN JUST STAND BY, WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMISSION BUSINESS FIRST, AND THEN WE WILL BE GETTING INTO THE CASES AND A COUPLE OF MINUTES. UM, SO AS, UH, AS MANY OF YOU GUYS ARE AWARENESS, HOPEFULLY MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, UH, COMMISSIONER PAUSEY, AND I ARE GOING TO BE STEPPING DOWN AS CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AFTER THIS MEETING. UM, AND, UH, WE WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND WE HAVE SOME BOOKS HERE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. AND SO WE'LL BE TAKING UP ITEMS. DO YOU WANT IN D TWO, WHICH ARE ELECTIONS OF THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR? UH, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A FEW WORDS AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING. UM, SO COMMISSIONER CAUSEY, DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH A FEW REMARKS? SURE. THANK YOU. UH, CHAIR, KENNY. UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SERVED ALONGSIDE THE CURRENT SLATE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEY HAVE, UH, CONTINUOUSLY SHOWN EMPATHY AND PATIENCE AND GRACE, DESPITE ALL THE LATE NIGHTS AND AN UNFAIR AMOUNT OF VITRIOL FROM THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS WHO DEVOTE AN EXCEPTIONAL AMOUNT OF TIME TO UNDERSTANDING THE CASES THAT APPEAR IN FRONT OF US. UM, I'M ALSO DEEPLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, TRYING TO BALANCE THE CHALLENGES OF A FAST GROWING CITY LIKE OURS, WITH THE NEED OF ITS PEOPLE. UH, THE WORK THAT THIS COMMISSION DID ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, WAS A HIGHLIGHT OF THAT. FOR ME, I'M AN ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEER BY TRAINING A CIVIL ENGINEER BY PRACTICE AND AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT UT. I CERTAINLY WASN'T A DEVELOPER WHEN I BEGAN SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, BUT WHEN KEN PAXTON DECLARED ME ONE, I THOUGHT I MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT. WHY NOT? UH, YOU KNOW, MY COMPANY CIVILITY HAS RECENTLY STARTED TAKING ON A MORE EXPANDED ROLE IN CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT WITH A FOCUS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MULTIMODAL MOBILITY. AFTER OVER 11 YEARS, SERVING ON CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND OVER FIVE YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR ME TO MAKE WAY FOR NEW BLOOD, TO WORK ON BUILDING MY COMPANY AND EMPOWERING MY TEAM TO LOOK FOR OTHER WAYS TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY AND TO GO BACK TO SPENDING EVERY OTHER TUESDAY NIGHT WITH MY FAMILY. UH, I MAY TUNE IN EVERY NOW AND THEN BECAUSE I WILL MISS YOU ALL. I HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM EACH ONE OF YOU, COMMISSIONERS STAFF, CITIZENS, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MANY OF YOU HAVE PLAYED A BIG PART IN MY OWN GROWTH. SO REALLY THANK YOU. I PLAN ON REACHING OUT TO EACH OF YOU COMMISSIONERS, JUST SHARE EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT YOU'VE HAD ON ME AND TO THANK YOU INDIVIDUALLY. FINALLY, I WISH I COULD SAY THAT THE CONSTANT BAD FAITH ATTACKS FROM THE LIKES OF FRED LEWIS AND OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL, I WISH I COULD SAY THAT THAT HASN'T WORN ME DOWN A BIT, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE ENTIRELY TRUE. IT'S ONE THING TO DISAGREE WITH SOMEONE, BUT SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY TO ATTACK THEM WITH FALSE HOPES AND FEARMONGERING, OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT HAVE THE STRENGTH TO TACKLE OUR COMING CHALLENGES. IF WE CANNOT LEARN TO DISAGREE LIKE ADULTS, YOU KNOW, IF WE CONTINUE POISONING THE WELL OF CIVIC DISCOURSE IN AUSTIN, WE'LL PAY A BIG PRICE FOR IT. LONGTERM, YOU KNOW, COME TO THINK OF IT. I LOVE THE IDEA THAT KEN PAXTON MADE ME A DEVELOPER. IN FACT, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT AUSTIN MONITOR QUOTE OF THE DAY. KEN PAXTON MADE ME A DEVELOPER. I'M A DEVELOPER LIKE COMMISSIONERS ANDERSON AND HOWARD, AND I'M PROUD TO WORK TOWARD PROVIDING THE MUCH NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNDER THE BRAND OF CAPITAL A HOUSING. AND I HAVE KEN PAXTON TO THINK, AND I'LL CONCLUDE HERE. I'LL SAY THAT I'M OPTIMISTIC ABOUT AUSTIN'S FUTURE. AS I HAVE BEEN EVER SINCE I MOVED HERE 26 YEARS AGO, IT'S WHY I STARTED MY BUSINESS HERE AND RAISE MY FAMILY HERE. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING TO BUILD IT AUSTIN AS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE WITH VERY, VERY SPECIAL PEOPLE. AND I WILL CONTINUE TO PLAY A SMALL PART IN HELPING IT THRIVE FOR MY KIDS' GENERATION AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW. I REALLY WANT TO THANK MAYOR PRO TEM GARZA FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, KASI. UM, I'LL SAY JUST A COUPLE OF WORDS BEFORE WE GET TO OUR SPECIAL GUESTS HERE. UM, SIMILARLY IT'S, IT'S BEEN JUST A TREMENDOUS HONOR TO SERVE MY CITY ALONGSIDE ALL. UH, I NEVER GET TIRED OF TELLING PEOPLE HOW CONTINUOUSLY IMPRESSED I AM WITH THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION. YOU TAKE YOUR DUTIES [00:05:01] VERY SERIOUSLY, TREAT EACH OTHER, AND THE PEOPLE BEFORE THE COMMISSION WITH RESPECT AND DO SO FOR NO PAY AND LITTLE BANKS. SO, UH, THANK YOU. UM, I'M ESPECIALLY GRATEFUL BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE PUT YOU ALL THROUGH SOME LATE NIGHTS WITH MY VARIOUS CRUSADES TO IMPROVE OUR CITY'S PLANNING. UH, BUT I AM IMMENSELY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TOGETHER ON THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE, AND MOST RECENTLY THE STREET IMPACT FEES. UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK ESPECIALLY, UH, ANDREW RIVERA FOR HIS CONTINUED ALACRITY AND OUTSTANDING PROFESSIONALISM AND SUPPORTING US AS WELL. THE CITY STAFF FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, WATERSHED PROTECTION, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, LAW PARKS, RECREATION, AND HCD DEPARTMENTS WHO DO A HARD JOB WITH THE CRUSTY OLD CODE DESIGNED FOR A CITY HALF ITS SIZE. UM, MY TIME HERE HAS BEEN SOME OF THE MOST MEANINGFUL AND INTERESTING WORK AND I NEED TO, UH, THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER COSAR FOR, FOR THE APPOINTMENT. UM, IT'S, UH, THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE HERE TO SOME OF THE GREATEST EXISTENTIAL CHALLENGES AND HAS EVER FACED NAMELY OUR HOUSING CRISIS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME. UM, IN CASE YOU WERE WONDERING, I WASN'T DEED BORED TO DEATH WITH MY DAY JOB OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, WHICH IS WHY I PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY INTO THE COMMISSION. SO WHEN, UH, VICE-CHAIR KASI APPROACHED ME AND TOLD ME THAT HE WAS TAKING HIS COMPANY IN NEW DIRECTIONS AND WANTED TO FOCUSING ON DEVELOPING THE KINDS OF AFFORDABLE AND SUSTAINABLE HOUSING THAT I'VE WORKED SO HARD TO PROMOTE HERE, UH, AND THAT HE WANTED ME TO COME WORK FOR HIM. UH, I COULDN'T PASS IT UP. SO I'M CIVILITY IS DOING SOME AMAZING THINGS, INCLUDING BEING THE VERY FIRST TO BREAK DOWN A GROUND ON AN AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROJECT FEW WEEKS AGO IN NORTH AUSTIN. UM, I REALLY HATE TO LEAVE. THERE'S THERE'S SO MUCH LEFT TO DO, BUT, UH, I JUST WANT TO GO OUT AND BUILD SOME HOUSING AND, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT TO DISTRACT FROM THE COMMISSION'S WORK. UM, ONE LAST THING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I COULDN'T LEAVE WITHOUT MAKING ONE LAST POINT. UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CASES HERE LATELY THAT COULD HAVE, UH, REQUIRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THEM, BUT DIDN'T BECAUSE THE CURRENT CODE DOESN'T HAVE THE AFFORDABLE BONUSES FOR THEM. STATE LAW PRECLUDES US FROM ACQUIRING THEM AND THE NEW CODE IS DELAYED, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN AUSTIN DOESN'T TAKE PLACE THROUGH REZONINGS. I JUST RECENTLY SHOWED MY KIDS MY CHILDHOOD HOME ON 37TH STREET OVER BY GUADALUPE, WHERE I GREW UP. UM, I LOVED GROWING UP. THERE WAS ON A STREET WITH A MIX OF HOMES AND APARTMENTS LOOK INTO BY SENIOR HOUSING CENTER ON ONE SIDE AND GROOVING MOVE ON THE OTHER AND CHRISTMAS LIGHTS ALL OVER THE PLACE. UM, SOMETIMES CARS WOULD DRIVE TOO FAST, BUT I RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD PARENTS WOULD GO OUT AT NIGHT WITH PICKAXES AND, UH, UNFIXED SOME HOT COALS AND WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN AUSTIN'S FIRST TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. UM, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY REZONINGS ON MY STREET, BUT MY CHILDHOOD HOME THAT MY PARENTS WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE AS A SCHOOL TEACHER AND A STATE EMPLOYEE IN THE EIGHTIES IS NOW WE'RE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS, UM, DRIVING BY MOST OF THE HOMES AROUND IT HAVE BEEN RENOVATED OR EXPANDED IN A WORTH HER ABOUT THE SAME NO REZONING NEEDED. THERE WERE SEVERAL CODE NEXT REST, STOP REX AUSTIN'S, UH, SHINY SIGNS UP ON THE STREET. UM, BUT I HAVE TO ASK IF THE KIDS WHO GREW UP IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN'T AFFORD IT TODAY, IS THAT WRECKING IT ANYMORE THAN ANY LOWER PRICED FOURPLEXES OR TOWNHOUSES ON THE STREET MIGHT OR WE PRESERVING AUSTIN FOR THE BUILDINGS ARE FOR THE PEOPLE. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE LOSING INCOME RESTRICTED, A MODERATE PRICE HOUSING EVERY DAY THAT THE NEW CODE IS DELAYED. I FEAR THE CURRENT DRAFT IS STILL INADEQUATE TO THE TASK. AND THEN MY RESEARCH OVER THE NEARLY A YEAR SINCE WE PASSED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, IT HAS BECOME CLEAR TO ME THAT IT FAILS IN TWO KEY RESPECTS. FIRST, IT DOESN'T DO NEARLY ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE ONE FORM OF HOUSING TIME TESTED BY HISTORY TO PROVIDE MODERATE PRICED HOUSING IN BIG CITIES, WHICH WE NOW ARE A, WHICH IS ROW HOUSES, THE SAME THREE STORIES THAT MCMANSIONS CAN BE. UM, SECOND FINALLY, UH, IT STILL HAS IMPEDIMENTS CURRENTLY HOLDING BACK AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED FROM PRODUCING INCOME, RESTRICTED HOUSING, ALL OVER TOWN, UM, WHICH HAS, UH, THOSE IMPEDIMENTS ARE THE SITE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS THAT ADD MONTHS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, AT LEAST EVEN VERY SMALL PROJECTS, UH, AND REQUIRING A REZONING TO GET THE IMPERVIOUS COVER NEEDED FOR TOWNHOUSES, WHICH ALSO ADD MONTHS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO PROJECTS THAT ARE 50% INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING. SO I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AND, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO COUNCIL ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. SO WITH THAT, I AM PERMANENTLY HANDING OVER MY SOAP BOX AND, UH, UM, I'LL INVITE, UM, MAYOR ADLER. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, YOU RMU ONLY APPROPRIATE. LET ME DEFER FIRST TO MY COLLEAGUES, THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND CAST MEMBER TO SPEAK TO THEIR APPOINTEES, THAT MAYOR PRO TEM. UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU. UM, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST PLANNING COMMISSION I'VE ATTENDED LIVE. I'VE WATCHED THEM, UM, LATER, BUT, UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I, AND I WANNA, I WANT TO THANK ALL, ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR SERVICE. [00:10:01] UM, I WAS JUST TALKING TO COUNCILOR COSAR BEFORE THIS. AND, UH, I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME A STORY ABOUT JOE BIDEN, UH, WHEN HE RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND I THINK HE SERVED ONE TERM AND HE SAID SOMETHING LIKE HE DECIDED TO RUN. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE SENATE OR THE HOUSE BECAUSE WARREN PEACE WAS EASIER THAN ZONING. UM, AND SO I I'M SO INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO, UM, FOR OUR CITY. IT IS RATHER UNFORTUNATE THAT IT HAS BECOME SUCH A DIVISIVE ISSUE. UH, I LOVE THAT BAEZ JUST KEPT IT REAL. UM, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR AN, A APPOINTEE, UM, I WANT IT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY BY PASSION FOR TEN ONE IS WHAT GOT ME TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE I BELIEVED WE NEEDED DIVERSITY ON EVERY BOARD. AND, UM, I OF COURSE STRUGGLED TO FIND DISTRICT TO PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS OBSTACLES THEY FACE AND JUST TRYING TO GET BY JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, PAY THEIR BILLS AND GET FOOD ON THE TABLE. AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS ALWAYS INCREDIBLY HARD. I ALWAYS LOOKED FIRST IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THEN WHEN I COULDN'T FIND, UM, MY STAFF WOULD WORK WHEN WE HIRED TO GET APPOINTEES, WE WOULD LOOK OUTSIDE. AND, UM, IF I AS CAME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, UM, UH, MY CHIEF OF STAFF MET WITH HIM AND, YOU KNOW, I DEFER TO HER A LOT ON, ON, UH, IN THE BEGINNING. I DEFINITELY DEFER TO HER A LOT BECAUSE OF HER BACKGROUND. IN FACT, HER BACKGROUND IN, IN LAND USE WAS THE REASON THAT I, THAT I HIRED HER. AND SO IT WAS JUST SO INTERESTING HOW, UM, BAEZ AND I REALLY ALIGNED IN SO MANY WAYS ON OUR, OUR THOUGHTS ON LAND USE AND, AND REALLY OUR PERSONALITIES, A LOT OF WAYS. UM, WE'RE BOTH, I FEEL STRAIGHT SHOOTERS. UH, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF BS FROM US AND WE'RE NOT GOOD AT, UH, THE POLITICAL PART OF IT. UH, BUT WE, WE, WE CERTAINLY TELL YOU HOW HE FEELS. SO I THINK IT'S SO INTERESTING HOW, HOW MUCH SHE'S LIKE ME IN A LOT OF WAYS. UM, AND I'M GRATEFUL. I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR US FOR ALL THAT YOU DID TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER HEARING FROM COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT ABOUT THE LATE NIGHT COMMISSION MEETINGS, HE CREATED THE NEW PUBLIC HEARING AND DEBATE ROLES TO RUN MORE EFFICIENT MEETINGS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT AUSTINITES WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETINGS THAT GO TOO LATE, WE NEED OUR COUNCIL, AND MAYBE WE NEED YOU ON COUNCIL US TO HELP US WITH THAT. UM, HE CO-LED THE PLANNING COMMISSION SESSION ON DRAFT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, REWRITE LED THE PLANNING COMMISSION SESSIONS ON DRAFT THREE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, REWRITE CREDIT, THE WORKING GROUP SYSTEM, OR THE LDC REWRITE THAT PRODUCED THE MASS MAJORITY OF THE AMENDMENTS AND ENSURE THAT MINORITY WORKING GROUP OPINIONS WERE TAKEN UP TO THE FULL COMMISSION, UM, TO HAVE TRANSPARENT AND FAIR PROCESS. UH, HE WORKED TO REBUILD TRUST AND COOPERATION BETWEEN COMMISSIONERS AFTER CONTENTIOUS LDC HEARINGS. UM, AND YOU SEAMLESSLY TRANSITIONED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS, UH, AFTER AND COMMISSIONERS LED THE PUBLIC, THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE THE FIRST COMMISSION TO ADOPT A PUBLIC HEARING FORMAT, SIMILAR TO IN PERSON MEETINGS WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ABLE TO STAY IN THE HEARING TO OFFER PERSPECTIVES IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS. SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DID. IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLY UNFORTUNATE THAT, UM, I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE EVERYBODY ON THE, IN THIS MEETING AGREES ON A 99% OF THE ISSUES. AND, UH, AND I KNOW THAT WHEN THINGS GET REALLY HARD AND CONTENTIOUS, I JUST COME BACK TO, I KNOW WE ALL WANT THE SAME THINGS, AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL JUST WANTING EVERYONE TO LIVE IN A PROSPEROUS CITY AND NOT STRUGGLE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HELPS ME GET PAST, BUT, UM, I AM INCREDIBLY SORRY THAT YOU WERE DRAGGED INTO A LAWSUIT, BUT, UM, I WOULD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. AND LASTLY, I'LL JUST SAY HE'S JUST A REALLY NICE PERSON. I MEAN, HE'S JUST SUCH A NICE PERSON AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT, WHAT HE, UH, YOUR NEXT ENDEAVOR. AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND THANK YOU TO ALL, UH, UH, CONNOR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS WELL. UH, AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T, ISN'T EASY WORK AND, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE AN INCREDIBLY HARDER JOB IF WE DIDN'T HAVE COMMISSIONERS, LIKE ALL OF YOU TO HELP US MAKE SOME INCREDIBLY HARD, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. CASARA THANKS TO ALL OF Y'ALL FOR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU DO. UM, IT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T VISIT COMMISSION MEETINGS OFTEN, BUT IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO BE HERE FOR THIS ONE, BECAUSE Y'ALL [00:15:01] HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH, YOU PUT SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT INTO IT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DEAL WITH INFINITE IDEAS FROM CONNOR, UM, UH, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY SUCH AN IMPORTANT CHEWING. AND IT'S SUCH A SPECIAL THING WE HAVE HERE IN AUSTIN IS THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT. WE CAN HAVE THE NUMBER OF IDEAS THAT WE CAN GENERATE. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US A BETTER CITY EVERY TIME, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER HOW STUBBORN OR HOW HARD CERTAIN ISSUES ARE, NO MATTER, UH, THE LAWSUITS OR THE RHETORIC, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, PEOPLE REALLY, REALLY CARE ABOUT AUSTIN SO DEEPLY. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE EACH OF YOUR SERVICE. UH, THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE, UM, UH, YOU, ESPECIALLY CONNOR, WHAT YOU CAME INTO. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MY LAST COMMISSIONER WAS ALSO CHASED OUT BY, BY THREAT OF LAWSUIT AND IS ALSO EQUALLY A GOOD GUY FROM WINDSOR PARK. UM, UH, AND SO YOU CAME INTO THIS KNOWING, UH, KNOWING THAT GOING THROUGH TWO ROUNDS OF THE LVC REWRITE, GOING, BEING VICE CHAIR, BEING CHAIR, UM, REALLY HELPING CENTER OF THE EQUITY CONVERSATION. UM, UM, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT SO MUCH ABOUT YOU AND ABOUT EACH OF Y'ALL, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY HERE JUST EMBODIES THAT, THAT, THAT SPIRIT OF BRINGING IDEAS TO THE TABLE, BECAUSE WE DON'T GIVE UP ON THE CITY. UH, CONNOR STARTED OUT, I REMEMBER EARLY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STUFF. CAUSE NEITHER OF US HAD THAT AS A REALLY CENTRAL FOCUS TO OUR POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT, BUT WE WERE, UH, HANGING OUT AT YOUR HOUSE AND, UH, POINTING OUT HOW HARD IT WAS GOING TO BE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE SPACE FOR IN-LAWS TO LIVE IN, UM, UH, AND WINTER PARK. UM, AND, AND JUST LIKE FOR SO MANY OF US, IT STARTS OUT WITHIN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, UH, HOW IT IMPACTS YOUR FAMILY, YOUR FRIENDS, AND THEN WE RECOGNIZE THE RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT HAS ON AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY VALUABLE AND SPECIAL ABOUT EVERYBODY ON OUR, ON OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, ESPECIALLY ONES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, SUCH, SUCH IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THANKS TO EACH OF Y'ALL WHO ARE, ARE CYCLING OFF. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE CONTINUING, CONTINUING TO WORK IN SO MANY WAYS, AND WE VOTED TO ADOPT A BUNCH OF THOSE IDEAS, BY THE WAY. SO, OKAY. MAYOR ADLER, I LOOK AT THE, UH, AT THE, AT THE SCREEN HERE AT EVERYBODY ASSEMBLED AND IT'S PERHAPS BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT OLDER, MY HAIR DOESN'T GROW AS QUICKLY THAT I LOOK AT GREG AND THE BRAGGING I'M ABOUT TO PROBABLY DROP OUT OF THIS COMPETITION, JUST CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S LIKE NO WAY I'M CATCHING UP. UM, I TO THANK, UH, BOTH, UH, UH, BY US AND CONNOR FOR SERVICE, THIS HAS BEEN, AND FOR EVERYONE ON THIS PANEL, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH AN INCREDIBLY HARD PERIOD OF TIME TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER. IT CONTINUES THAT WAY. UH, EVERY ISSUE WE HAVE IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW, UH, HAS, UH, PLANNING AND DESIGN AS A PROXY FOR WHATEVER POLITICAL ISSUE EXISTS IN THE CITY. I MEAN, IT JUST ALL SEEMS TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS. SO PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A POLITICAL PLACE AND A DIFFICULT PLACE, UH, IN RECENT TIMES HAS BEEN SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. AND THEN TO LIVE IN THE TIMES THAT WE'RE LIVING IN RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE IN POLITICAL DISCOURSE AND WATCHING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, UH, UNPRECEDENTED IN MY LIFETIME JUST EXACERBATES THAT, UH, NOT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE PRESENT. UH, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS JOB, THE AMOUNT OF STUDY AND PREPARATION THAT'S REQUIRED, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THIS POSITION MORE THAN, THAN ANY OTHER, I THINK VOLUNTEER POSITION IN THE ENTIRE CITY, UH, UH, PEOPLE DON'T DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, UH, THE REAL WORK THAT'S DONE, YOU GUYS DID JUST A PHENOMENAL JOB, UH, UH, ON, ON THE, ON THE CODE, UH, ON ALL SIDES REPRESENTING, UH, BELIEFS AND PRESENTING ISSUES THAT, THAT CAME TO US. UH, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH EASIER YOU MADE OUR JOBS AND HOW MUCH THIS COUNCIL KNEW THAT THE, THE, THE EXPERTISE AND THE INSIGHT AND THE WILLINGNESS TO WORK AND TO REPRESENT ALL THE DIFFERENT SIDES OF ISSUES WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THIS BODY AND THIS WORK AND THE, AND THE SENSE OF, OF, [00:20:01] OF SECURITY THAT CAME WITH THAT, THAT WE WOULD BE PREPARED AND MORE PREPARED BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU DID. UH, AND, AND IT'S EVEN, IT'S DIFFICULT BEING CHAIR. AND I KNOW CONNOR, YOU ARE CHAIR, AND AS YOU ARE CHAIR, AND, AND IN A PREVIOUS INCARNATION TO, UH, THAT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO, BUT BOTH OF YOU IN THAT ROLE, UH, WITH SUCH, UM, UH, GRACE, UH, THAT, UH, AS NECESSARY TO KEEP A GROUP GOING, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO SAY RECOGNIZING ALL OF THOSE DIFFICULTIES THAT, THAT, UM, THAT, THAT HAD SOME AT SOME LEVEL, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST WONDER IF IT'S REALLY WORTH IT, UH, FOR HER, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU DEAL WITH. UH, AND THE ANSWER IS THAT IT IS BECAUSE YOU HELPED MAKE THE CITY. THIS IS A MAGICAL, MAGICAL PLACE, AND IT'S MAGICAL IN PART BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER THEMSELVES TO THE LEVEL OF EXTENT THAT YOU GUYS BOTH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS SERVICE. NOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET BORED WHEN YOU'RE AWAY FROM PUBLIC LIFE LIKE THIS, AND YOUR FIND YOUR WAY BACK. OFTENTIMES PEOPLE DO. UH, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD THING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY, BUT TODAY A SPECIAL. GREAT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE KIND OF WORDS. UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO OUR ART COMMISSION MEETING. UM, AND WITH THAT, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL, UH, LATER IN THE MEETING MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, SAY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSE, UM, OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO FOR EVERYBODY ON THE LINE, UH, [Consent Agenda] WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS WE'RE GOING TO READ THROUGH WHAT WE CALL THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND, UM, SOMETIMES THIS IS A DENIALS, SOMETIMES IT'S APPROVALS, UH, BUT I'LL READ EACH CASE, UH, LISTEN FOR YEARS. AND, UM, AND WE'LL ALSO DESIGNATE WHEN, UM, UH, A LOT OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE POSTPONEMENTS AND THEN SOME OF THEM, WHEN WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEM UP FOR DISCUSSION, THAT MEANS THAT AFTER WE DO THIS CONSENT AGENDA, WE'LL PULL THEM UP TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CASES INDIVIDUALLY. UM, SO FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY, UH, I OFFER A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UM, TO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UH, ANY, UM, WHEN WE DO THIS VIEW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE, UH, SO SPEAK UP IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES NOT HEARING ANY FOR NOW. SO I'M ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE THE MINUTES WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS B ONE AND B TWO, WHICH ARE NINE OH TWO AND 904 MORROW STREET, UH, NPA 2020 A DASH ZERO ZERO ONE 7.02902 MORROW STREET, DISTRICT SEVEN AND C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR SEVEN NINE OH TWO MORA STREET, DISTRICT SEVEN. UM, THOSE ARE OFFERED FOR A POSTPONEMENT BY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TILL OCTOBER 13TH. THE APPLICANT AGREES. SO THEY ARE OFFERED FOR CONSENT. POSTPONE THAT TILL OCTOBER 13TH, ITEM NUMBER B3, NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ZERO 3.01. DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DISTRICT ONE, UH, IS OFFERED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TILL SEPTEMBER EIGHT. UM, ITEM BEFORE SEE 14 ZERO FIVE DASH ZERO ONE ONE TWO RCA TO EMILY SOUTH SHORE DISTRICT NINE. UM, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE DISCUSSION AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. ITEM B FIVE, UH, 1907 WEBER BELL ROAD, 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX TWO WESTERVILLE DISTRICT ONE. THAT ITEM IS OFFERED FOR THE DISCUSSION AGENDA ITEMS. THESE SIX SEE 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX, SEVEN 35 OH FOUR SOUTH FIRST STREET, REZONING DISTRICT THREE AS OPERA FOR THE DISCUSSION AGENDA LATER, ITEM 2020 ZERO ZERO SEVEN SIX ALPHA 0.89 DISTRICT FIVE. UM, THAT IS, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR SF THREE TO SF SIX AS AMENDED, UH, WHICH IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B EIGHT C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SEVEN TWO RETAIL CENTER, DISTRICT FOUR. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, C H C O N P AND C S AND P TWO CSMP AS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B NINE S P 2019 ZERO ONE SEVEN ONE C GOODWILL STORE, DISTRICT 10. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 10 S P 2015 ZERO THREE NINE NINE CX T TO REPORT TECHS OUT DISTRICT [00:25:01] TWO. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, OR REQUEST FOR A SECOND EXTENSION THAT'S THREE YEARS IS AWKWARD FOR CONSENT ITEM B 11, SPC 2019 ZERO FOUR TWO FOR A FOURTH STREET EAST DISTRICT THREE. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE REGULATING PLAN IS OFFERED OR CONSENT ITEM B12, A SITE PLAN SPC 2019, 76 RAINY STREET CUP DISTRICT NINE. UM, THAT IS OFFERED, UH, FOR AN APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 22ND. ITEM B 13 C UH, J 2018 ZERO ONE ZERO 5.18 EASTERN PARK, SECTION THREE EIGHT PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT DISTRICT TWO. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT, UH, IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 14, RE SUBDIVISIONS C A 2019 ZERO ZERO SIX 8.08, RESUB DIVISION OF LAW, EIGHT V ON THE RESUB DIVISION OF LOTS, EIGHT AND NINE KENSINGTON PARK ADDITION DISTRICT TWO. UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR RE SUBDIVISION IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 15 A CODE, AND THEN THAT EXCEPTION FROM PLATTING DISCUSS AND CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 25 FOR, UH, THE, UM, THE EXCEPTION IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, UM, THAT THIS IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, MR. RIVERA, WERE THERE ANY LATE REVISIONS TO THOSE PROPOSALS? THOSE WERE UP STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SURE. YOU STATED THE CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN PROPOSED CORRECTLY? I DO HAVE A SPEAKER ON THE ITEM. OKAY. UM, LET'S UH, OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAR THAT SPEAKER NOW. UM, SEE 15, UH, ONE SPEAKER AND I BELIEVE THEY ARE, UM, LET'S SEE HERE. LIZABETH, CARRIE OR ELIZABETH CAREY. ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YOU CAN STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. I CAN HEAR YOU. YES, GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH KERRY HOMEOWNER AT 1301 SOUTH FIFTH STREET IN DISTRICT NINE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBA HIS OFFICE ON AGENDA ITEM B 15, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A VOICE TO IT HERE AND EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF IT TONIGHT. THANKS. WHICH IS B 16. UH, IT IS THE FINAL PLAT OF AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT 2019 ZERO ONE ONE 4.18. THE SIMON CASKEY FINAL PLAT IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS, UH, AS STATED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BACKUP. UM, MR. RIVERA, DID I PHRASE THAT ADEQUATELY? OKAY. AND THAT IS OFFERED FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, SO, UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO DISCUSS ITEMS ARE COOLING ITEMS? I'M SURE. SHEA, UM, WELL ACTUALLY I HAVE TWO, SO, BUT YOU HAVEN'T PASSED FOR THAT DEBT, SO, NO, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST SEE ANY, ANY, UH, NOT HEARING ANY LET'S DO RECUSALS COMMISSIONER SAY. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEMS ONE AND TWO WITHIN, I DUNNO, A HUNDRED FEET FROM THERE. OKAY. OTHER RECUSALS FISHER COUSIN. OKAY. CHAIR RECUSING FROM ITEM V6, A CIVILIAN STAFF MEMBERS WORKING ON THAT. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL. OKAY. IT'S USING SOME ITEM B STORYVILLE IS A CLIENT DESIGN WORKSHOP FOR WHOM I WORK, ALTHOUGH NOT ON THIS PROJECT, BUT THEY ARE A CLIENT. GREAT. ANY OTHER SCRIPTURE? SHAW? YES. ITEM NINE, MY WIFE INDUSTRIES. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER RECUSALS? I AM ALSO RECUSING FROM ITEM V6 AS, UM, AS OF YESTERDAY, I WORK FOR A SUBSTITUTE AS WELL. SO, UM, DO, CAN I HAVE A MOTION BY THE, UH, SOMEONE WHO IS NOT RECUSED TO, UH, OFFER THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, AND TO [00:30:01] CLOSE ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE ITEMS? EMOTIONAL BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. UM, ANYONE WISHING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE CONSENT AGENDA. LET'S SEE, WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12, 12. YEP. OKAY, GREAT. WHO ARE YOU MISSING TONIGHT? JUST LIKE THEIR LIST THAT COMMISSIONER HAD A YELLOW CARD OF. OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T QUITE SEE THAT MICHIGAN HAS PULIDO. ARE YOU, ARE YOU, UH, YOU'RE CUTTING IN AND OUT OF EURO. IT WAS GREEN. OKAY. AND I'M COUNTING 13. OKAY. SO, UM, GREAT. SO THAT WAS 13 TO ZERO. UM, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND [B.4 Restrictive Covenant Amendment: C14-05-0112(RCA2) - AMLI South Shore; District 9] START WITH OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH IS THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT BEFORE, UH, ITEMS, EMILY, SOUTH SHORE. AND FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING ON THE LINE, UM, WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE ITEMS, UH, IN ORDER ALL THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. UM, WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THEM, WE'LL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL START CALLING YOUR NAMES. YOU CAN HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, UM, MAKE SURE TO TURN DOWN YOUR TV. CAUSE THERE IS A DELAY. UH, SO YOU JUST GOTTA LISTEN ON THE PHONE AND THEN PLEASE STICK AROUND BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS. SO, UM, DO WE HAVE KATE CLARK FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT ON THE LINE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN GO AHEAD AND PRESENT US BEFORE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS KATE CLARK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. AND AS THE CHAIR SAID, THIS IS ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA. THIS IS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH ZERO FIVE DASH ZERO ONE ONE TWO RCA TO ANN LEE SOUTH SHORE. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1720 SOUTH LAKESHORE BOULEVARD IS APPROXIMATELY 10.48 ACRES. IT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A MIXED USE PROJECT CONTAINING MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES AND IS SUBJECT TO TWO PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO MODIFY THE OWNERSHIP REQUIREMENT FROM THE ORIGINAL RC TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENTS AT A MINIMUM OF 45 RESIDENTIAL UNITS BE FOR SALE AND FROM THE AMENDED RC TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY FROM 450 TO 520 UNITS. NO OTHER CHANGES ARE PROPOSED AT THIS TIME. STAFF, THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE RESTRICTIVE OF COVENANT. CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING NEW CONSTRUCTION IN AN UNDEVELOPED AREA ON THE PROPERTY WITH NO INCREASE IN TITLE OTHER THAN BEING DENSITY, ALLOWING FOR THE ADDITIONAL UNITS WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCREASE DENSITY IN AN ALREADY BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING SURROUNDING LAND USES. UM, THAT'S MY VINDICATION I'M HERE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, AMANDA SWORE, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE FOR THE APPLICANT? I COULD EVEN CARE IF SOMEONE COULD JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN MY PRESENTATION IS PULLED UP, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO JUMP IN. SURE, SURE. AND WERE THERE, UM, AND GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, CHAIR COMMISSIONER. MY NAME'S AMANDA SWORE WITH JENNER GROUP HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AMBERLEY RESIDENTIAL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE AMALIE OWNS THE 10.48 PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT STAFF INDICATED LOCATED ON EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE AT THE Y WHERE EAST RIVERSIDE IN THE SOUTH LAKE SHORE SPLIT IS SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PROPERTY CONTAINS 454 LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT WERE BUILT IN TWO PHASES. THE PHASE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING, IT SHOWED IN THE BLUE RECTANGLE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS THE THIRD PHASE THAT STAFF INDICATED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR AS PART OF THE CORRIDOR OR MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT, WHICH WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2013. AS THE COMMISSION IS AWARE THE GOAL OF THE REZONING AND INITIATION OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR REGULATING PLAN WITH CURRENT INTEREST DENSITY ALONG THE CORRIDOR, WHEREVER RIOTING OF TRANSIT OPTIONS, BOTH EXISTS AND ARE ENVISIONED INTEGRATE BOTH MARKET RATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALONG THE CORRIDOR. THIS REQUEST IS INTENDED TO SUPPORT THOSE GOALS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN 2007, THIS PROPERTY HAD A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT PUT INTO COMPLACE PUT INTO PLACE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE REZONING ASSOCIATED WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY. THE PUBLIC COMPANY, COVENANT HAS HAD ONE AMENDMENT ASSESS INDICATED AND CURRENTLY CONTAINS THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. HEIGHT IS LIMITED ON THE [00:35:01] PROPERTY TO 60 FEET AND HIS STAFF INDICATED A MAXIMUM OF 454 LEASE. RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY WITH A MINIMUM OF 45 FOR SALE UNITS TO BE CONSTRUCTED A PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE. 5% OF THE FOR LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE TO BE RESERVED AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, PUBLIC ACCESS AND CHILL EASEMENTS WERE REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED FOR ACCESS TO LADY BIRD LAKE AND 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. WE'RE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE ONLY PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS TO REALLOCATE FOR SALE UNITS AND PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL FOR LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON SITE, ALL OTHER ASPECTS OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, INCLUDING THE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED, RETAIL THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS WILL REMAIN INTACT. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE EXISTING PROJECT CONTAINS 454 LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNIT. THIS REQUEST IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR 45 FOR SALE UNITS AND TRANSFER THOSE UNITS TO FOUR LEASED UNITS WHILE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 25 FOR LEASE UNITS FOR A TOTAL OF 70 NEW FOR LEASE UNITS ON THE PROPERTY, MAKING THE TOTAL 520 UNITS ITS STAFF INDICATED THIS WILL RESULT IN ADDITIONAL DENSITY ALONG EASTERN RIVERSIDE AND GO TOWARDS PROVIDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING THOUGHTS TO ADDRESS THIS, BOTH THE HOUSING DEFICIENCY AND DEFICIENCY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING AND WILL PROVIDE THAT HOUSING ON A COURSE TRANSIT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR GOALS OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALL WITHOUT DISPLACING ANY EXISTING HOUSING. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE EXISTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANT CONTAINS THE REQUIREMENT FOR 5% OF THE FOUR LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE RESERVED FOR HOUSEHOLDS EARNING A MAXIMUM OF 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT IS IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION AND WAS INCLUDED IN CORRESPONDENCE TO THE COMMISSIONERS EARLIER THIS WEEK, CONTEMPLATED EMILY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THE NEW FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS. THE CURRENT COMMITMENT FROM EMILY IS TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THE FOR LEASE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, THEREFORE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT FOR THE PROPOSED NEW FOR LEASED RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROJECT WILL CONTAIN SEVEN NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WITH HALF AT 60% MEDIAN IN THE INCOME AND HALF AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE BUILT TO BUILD THE 45 FOR SALE UNITS CURRENTLY REQUIRED IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, GIVEN THE PROPERTY'S LOCATION ON THE LAKE AND ADJACENT TO THE TRAIL, THESE WOULD BE EXTREMELY HIGH END CONDOMINIUM UNITS THAT WOULD HAVE NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. AGAIN, FEWER HIGH END UNITS THAT WOULD PROVIDE NO ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THE CITY IS NO LONGER IS NO LONGER ABLE TO INCLUDE OWNERSHIP OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS IN PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. EMILY IS LOOKING EXCUSE ME FOR A THIRD PARTY TO ENFORCE ME ADDITIONAL 5% AFFORDABLE UNITS AT 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. AND WE WILL HAVE THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT EXECUTED PRIOR TO THE CASE BEING PRESENTED AT CITY COUNCIL. IN SUMMARY, WE ARE REQUESTING TO REMOVE THE FORESAIL SALE REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AND TRANSFER THOSE UNITS TO FOUR LEASE UNITS WHILE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 25 UNITS IN THE CORRIDOR WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN ONSITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ALONG RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSION SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER OPPOSE MALCOLM YATES. UH, NOTHING BEATS. ARE YOU IN THE LINE? YES, THIS IS ALBUM. HEAR ME. I CAN YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES? GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MALCOLM YATES AND THE CHAIR OF THE EASTBURN RECITAL, TORQUE COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA CONTACT TEAM. ONE OF THE PRIMARY GOALS OF THE IRAQ NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS TO INCREASE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOME OWNERSHIP. THE IRAQ AREA HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST PERCENTAGES OF OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING IN AUSTIN. THIS LACK OF COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY TRANSLATES INTO DECREASED POLITICAL POWER, WHICH RESULTS IN FEWER CITY FACILITY AND SERVICES FOR RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA. THIS GOAL IS THE REASON THAT THE REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR SALE UNITS WAS INCLUDED IN THE ZONING CASE OF 2006 AT THE REQUEST OF CITY COUNCIL, THE DEVELOPERS WERE GIVEN ENTITLEMENTS IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS REQUIREMENT. [00:40:01] THE DEVELOPER HAS OFFERED 10% OF THE TWO TO THEE HAS OFFERED TO IRAQ ON ADDITIONAL, UM, 10% OF THE, UH, 70 RENTAL UNITS WOULD BE AFFORDABLE AT 80% MFI. UH, WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. HOWEVER, THIS WOULD OWN EITHER WAY, EITHER OPTION. THIS WOULD ONLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS BY FOUR UNITS, MORE THAN THE EXISTING REQUIREMENT. THAT 5% OF THE TOTAL RENTAL UNITS BE AFFORDABLE AT 80% MFI THE U R CONTACT TEAM CONSIDERED THIS OFFER TO BE INADEQUATE COMPENSATION FOR THE LOSS OF OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS AND VOTED TO REMOVE THE RIM. THE REMOVAL VOTED TO OPPOSE THE REMOVAL OF THIS REQUIREMENT OF FOR SALE UNITS. IF THIS REQUIREMENT IS RUBBLE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL SHOULD REQUIRE SOME OTHER MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN EXCHANGE. THANK YOU. RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I'M GOING TO SWORE REBECCA TO YOU FOR REBUTTAL. YES, CHAIR. I JUST WOULD WANT TO MAKE ONE CLARIFYING POINT AND THAT, UM, AS, UM, MR. GATES SAID, WE WORKED WITH THE, THE CONTACT TEAM AND OFFERED THE INITIAL ADDITIONAL 5% AT 80% AND CONFIRMING WITH HIM THAT THAT HAS BEEN LOWERED, UM, IF THEIR DIRECTION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY BENEFITS, MAKE THAT ADDITIONAL 5% AT 60%. AND THEN JUST REITERATE THAT WITH THE FORCED SALE PRODUCT, THERE WOULD BE NO NEW UNITS, UM, PROVIDED IN THE AREA. AND THAT THE, FOR RENT IS THE ONLY MECHANISM THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THEN JUST TO ADDRESS THE, ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT, THAT I HEARD WAS TRYING TO CREATE VOTING POWER AND STAYING POWER. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AMBERLY HAS REALLY WORKED TO DO IS CREATE A COMMUNITY HERE. THEY HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHER, UM, RETURN OF RENTER CAPACITY IS WITH OVER 55% OF THEIR UNITS RENEWING YOUR EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HIGHER RATES IN THIS AREA. SO WITH THAT AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? I SHALL GO AHEAD. THIS, UH, MAYBE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT, UM, THE THERE'S THE, UH, PERSON REPRESENTING IRAQ ROCK THAT MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS PROVIDED, UH, IN RE UH, I GUESS IN RETURN FOR THE, UM, THOSE, UH, UH, FOR SALE UNITS. UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ENTITLEMENTS WERE SPEAKING OF, UH, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT. DOES STAFF HAVE ANY IN, SORRY, DO WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. CUSHNER? SHAY SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. HEMPEL ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. UM, UH, LET'S SEE. MS. CLARK, ARE YOU STILL AROUND? YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? UM, I THINK I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT CLEARER, A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARIFICATION ON MR. YATES' COMMENTS. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE APPLICANT IS THE ONLY ENTITLEMENTS THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL UNIT COUNT. THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL HEIGHT OR SAR OR, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT IS ABOUT, UM, THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY GRANTED WITH THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT SHARE. I, THIS IS AMANDA SWORE. I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THAT IF IT WOULD PLEASE THE COMMISSION, MR. SHAW, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S WORK. GO AHEAD. THE ORIGINAL RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WAS PUT IN PLACE, UH, AND, AND MR. GATES, PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I WAS WRONG. I DID NOT DO THE ORIGINAL REZONING, BUT EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE FOUND, UM, INDICATES THAT THE, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WAS PUT INTO PLACE AT THE, OF REZONING OF THE PROPERTY IN 2005 AND BETWEEN 2005 AND 2007, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE CASES THAT STARTED AS PART OF THE, UM, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THROUGH. AND THAT AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, VERTICAL MIXED USE ZONINGS, WEREN'T SOMETHING THAT REALLY EXISTS AT UC RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR PLAN. WASN'T SOMETHING THAT EXISTS. SO THE PROJECT RECEIVED A REZONING TO BE ALLOWED TO BUILD. UM, WHAT WOULD, WOULD FOLLOW A LOT ALONG THE LINES OF A VERTICAL MIXED USE PRODUCT NOW, UM, SUBSEQUENT [00:45:01] TO THAT ZONING, THE PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REZONED AND IS NOW EASTERN RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. SO THE ORIGINAL, UM, THE ORIGINAL ZONING THAT WAS PUT INTO PLACE AT THE TIME OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT BEING PUT ON THE PROPERTY NO LONGER EXISTS IN THE PROPERTY IS NOW PART OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR. AND WE ARE NOT ASKING TO INCREASE ANY, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO INCREASE ANY OF THE HEIGHT THAT IS IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, JUST ADDRESSING THE DENSITY THAT WOULD NOT APPLY IF THE PROPERTY WAS BEING DEVELOPED UNDER JUST EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF THE COVENANTS IN PLACE. IT'S AN ITEM THAT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS WOR. UM, THAT'S WHERE I WOULD QUESTION, UH, DO I, DID, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT, UM, YOU, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS, UH, AMENABLE TO CHANGING THE AFFORDABILITY LEVEL? THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN THE 5% AT 80% REQUIREMENT. THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT EXISTS TODAY AND IS OFFERING AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THE UNIT AT 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. AND WOULD THAT BE 10% TOTAL? OKAY. SO THE, UM, AND, AND THAT IS NOT WHAT'S IN THE BACKUP, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT'S ACCURATE AT THE TIME THAT BACKUP WAS SUBMITTED, THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT THE APPLICANT TEAM MADE TO THE EAST, UH, TO THE IRAQ CONTACT TEAM WAS AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THE NEW UNITS AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. BUT AS WE HAD DISCUSSIONS MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE DROPPED THAT TO 60% OF THE MEETINGS. YEAH. AND IS THAT, UM, DOES THAT APPLY TO THE INCREASE IN UNITS OR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS? JUST THE INCREASE IN UNIT, THE, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE COVENANT IS STRUCTURED, THE AFFORDABLE COMPONENTS START AT THE TIME OF, UM, AT THE TIME OF CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO THE EXISTING UNITS THEY'RE AFFORDABLE COMPONENT IS ALREADY INCORPORATED. THIS WOULD BE FOR THE NEW UNITS ON THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO, UM, COULD WE HAVE A CITY HALL, UH, STAFF, UH, BRING UP, UM, PAGE 12 OF THE BACKUP SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE TEXT OF THE ACTUAL RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. OKAY. GIVE ME JUST A SECOND WHILE I GET THE BACKUP. GREAT. AND, UM, HAVE YOU ALL THOUGHT INTO JUST LOOKING AT HOW IT'S WORDED HERE? UM, THAT, WELL, ACTUALLY, UH, MS. , CAN YOU HELP WALK ME THROUGH THIS? SO THE, IS, IS THE TEXT THAT WE WOULD BE AMENDING ON PAGE 12 OF THE BACKUP? IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS IT A, THE EARLIER NO, SIR. SO THE, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THIS RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ARE, ARE ITEMS THAT THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS DEEMED ARE NO LONGER, THEY'RE NO LONGER ABLE TO PUT IN PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO AMEND THAT SECTION, WHICH IS WHY WE SAID THAT STAYS THE SAME. WE WOULD ENTER INTO A NEW RESTRICTIVE COVENANT FOR THE 5% OF THE ADDITIONAL UNITS AT 60% OF THE 60% MFI FOR THOSE NEW UNITS. UM, AMEND THAT, RIGHT? SO IS THE ACTION BEFORE US THEN TO TERMINATE THE, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, OR JUST TO, JUST TO ADJUST THE NUMBER OF UNITS BECAUSE THE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED PORTIONS ARE NO LONGER ENFORCEABLE OR WISH TO BE ENFORCED OR BE ACTIVE THE ACTION BEFORE YOU IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR SALE UNIT AND INCREASE. THE ALLOWABLE FOR RENT UNIT IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THEN, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A NEW, PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO ADDRESS THE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING. RIGHT. AND DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PROPOSED NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A NEW RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN THE, UM, IN THE BACKUP? UH, NO, SIR. WE WERE, WE HAD OFFERED THAT TO THE EAST RIVERSIDE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM. AND WHEN THEY VOTED TO NOT SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, WE ARE CURRENTLY SEARCHING FOR A THIRD PARTY ENFORCER SINCE THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN GO INTO A PUBLIC COVENANT AND BE ENFORCED BY THE CITY ANYMORE. OKAY. SO, UM, AS, AS EVERYONE IS AWARE, UH, THE, UM, DUE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAWS, SINCE I THINK THE ORIGINAL, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WAS DRAFTED, UM, WE, WE, UH, ARE BARRED BY STATE LAW FROM INCREASING THE, UM, THE, UH, JUST ASK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS CONSENT TO GO OVER JUST A L JUST A SECOND HERE. UM, SO WE CAN'T PUT THAT IN THE, UM, UH, AS A BASIS FOR OUR RULING TODAY, THE, THE ACTION TODAY WOULD [00:50:01] BE ON THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THEN TO ELIMINATE THAT REQUIREMENT TO INCREASE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. UM, BUT YOU ARE STATING ON THE RECORD THAT IT IS YOUR INTENTION BY WHAT READING OF CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN PLACE, JUST FOR OUR INFORMATION, UH, REGARDING, UM, A TOTAL OF 10% OF THE NEW UNITS BE INCOME RESTRICTED FIVE AT 80 AND FIVE AT 60. YES, SIR. I AM STATING THAT ON THE RECORD AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT ONLY HAVE ONE READING AT CITY COUNCIL, SO WE WILL HAVE IT DONE BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNTY. RIGHT. AND, UH, MS. COURT, CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, BACKUP, UH, UH, RECORDS THAT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, UM, BY THE TIME IT GETS TO THE COUNCIL, SO THAT THEY'RE FULLY APPRISED OF THE SITUATION? YES. WILL THANK YOU. OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, COMMISSURE ANDERSON AND SHEA CUT ONE FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER LOOKING OVER EVERYTHING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT THAT I'M SAYING, AND THE INTERPRETATION IS CORRECT. IS THERE ANY ACCESS TO THIS REMAINING PIECE OF LAND FROM RIVERSIDE OR FROM OTHER, ANY OTHER PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY EXCLUDING TOWN LAKE? NO, SIR. THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS AREA THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED COULD BE ACCESS WOULD BE THROUGH THE EXISTING PRIVATE ROADS BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATION OF UTILITY EQUIPMENT. THAT'S ADJACENT TO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. SHEA. SO, UM, MS. WALKER, IF YOU CAN HELP ME OUT. SO I GUESS THE, THE WORDING WAS, I DON'T KNOW, I, IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED CAUSE IT WAS SO IT'S 5% OF THE FOUR 50 IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR 80%. RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, THE ADDITION YOU SAID ABOUT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO PUT ANOTHER 5% IN RESTRICTED COVENANT FOR 60%, AND YOU SAID IT WAS A TOTAL OF 10%, BUT THEN I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE I THINK YOU SAID, OH, IT'S 5% OF THE NEW UNIT. SO IS IT 5% OF 70 OR 5% OF THE FOUR 50? IT IS VERY CONFUSING AND I'VE WRAPPED MY BRAIN AROUND IT SO MANY TIMES. SO I APOLOGIZE IF I DIDN'T EXPLAIN IT CLEARLY. SO THERE IS A 5% AT 5% OF THE 450 UNIT REQUIREMENTS THAT, THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THOSE UNITS ARE ALREADY IN CIRCULATION THERE, THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD CONTINUE FOR ANY NEW UNITS, SO THAT 70 WOULD AUTOMATICALLY HAVE A 5% REQUIREMENT THE WAY THE COVENANT IS DRAFTED TODAY, WE'RE OFFERING AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF THOSE OF THE 70 UNITS. OKAY. I SEE. SO THE FOUR 50 IS, IS REALLY THE FOUR 50 HAS, WELL ACTUALLY THE REGIONAL. OKAY. SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT 10% OF THE FOUR 50. IT'S ACTUALLY 5% OF THE 70 IT'S 10% OF THE 70. SO IF THESE WERE TO BE DONE YEAH, CORRECT. ONLY OF THE NEW UNITS. OKAY. I SEE. YEAH, BECAUSE, SO I ALWAYS THINKING, OKAY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE USING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT YOU'RE JUST TELLING ME IT'S, IT'S 10% OF JUST, WE'RE ONLY DEALING WITH THE 70, THE FOUR 50 DOESN'T EVEN COME INTO CALCULATIONS AT THAT POINT. THAT'S ALREADY IN CIRCULATION IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THAT'S ACCURATE. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT. THAT CLARIFIES ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER IS OUR COMMISSIONER HONEST PLUTO, THEN COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL, GO AHEAD, CHAIR. MS. WARREN. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO NOW WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE IT'S 3.5 MINUTES OR ONE FIVE MINUTES OR 60% MFI. UM, WOULD YOU SAY THERE THAT WHEN YOU ROUNDED UP TO THAT SEVEN, THAT FOUR MINUTES AND THEN THREE UNITS BE AT 80%, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE IT'S SEVEN MINUTES, WE WOULD MAKE THAT COMMITMENT THAT MAKE THE HIGHER PERCENT AT 60%, THE HIGHER, IF IT'S AN ODD NUMBER TO MAKE THE HIGHER NUMBER AT 60%, IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT MS. CLARK, PUTTING THAT IN BACKUP, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WRITE A LETTER ADDRESSING BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS TO BE PRESENTED IN THE BACKUP AT CITY COUNCIL. GREAT. AND, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU WEREN'T NEGOTIATING, YOU WERE JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. YES. I WAS ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. OKAY. ARE YOU COMPLETE? UM, AND THEN I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. GATES. UM, MS. SHE HAD SUCH AS WANTING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO DO AMEND THE RESCRIPT GOVERNANCE, UM, DO REQUIRE SOME MEANINGFUL COMMITMENT AND JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVE OR CONVERSATIONS, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU ALL CONSIDER A MEANINGFUL COMMITMENT AT THIS TIME? [00:55:02] THE, UH, THE TEAM REALLY WANTED THE, UH, OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS, BUT, UM, PERSONALLY I WOULD BE SATISFIED THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BETTER DEAL THAN WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY OFFERED. AND ONLY ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS THIS IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I'M GOING TO ASK THIS ONE QUESTION AND SHE CAN ANSWER IT THIS SWORE. UM, WELL, I'LL JUST CLARIFY FOR OUR RULES AND FIRST STATE LAW FOR A CITY PROCEDURE THAT, UM, UH, THE, THE SIXTH LAW, UM, INTERPRETATION OF STATE LAW IS THAT WE CAN NO LONGER PUT THOSE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS INTO PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. SO, UH, WHAT YOU'VE HEARD AROUND THE PRICE TODAY IS, UH, THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO PUT THAT INTO A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, AND THEN INCLUDE THAT IN THE BACKUP FOR COUNCIL, UH, ABOUT AS FAR AS WE ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO GO. UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ELABORATE ON THAT. SHE LIKES, YES, TARA, THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS SEEN THAT WE CAN'T ADD THAT INTO A PUBLIC COVENANT, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ENFORCEABLE BY A THIRD PARTY. SO THE CITY IS AMENABLE TO HAVING ANOTHER PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CITY NO LONGER WANTED TO BE A PARTY OF THESE PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, I GUESS MR. GATES, THE, UM, THE CITY NO LONGER DOES PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, CAUSE STATE LAWS IS SUCH THE CITY CANNOT CONDITION THE ZONING OR OTHER ACTION LIKE THAT UPON, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. SO, UM, THE, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS STATING IS THAT IT IS THEIR INTENT TO CREATE A NEW PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. UM, BUT THAT, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE THAT THAT WILL BE LOCKED DOWN BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MAKES THEIR DECISION. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, WELL, THANK YOU MR. GATES, AND JUST QUICKLY WANT TO MENTION, UH, MS. MORRIS, YOU CONSIDER WORK ON THEIR PRIVATE VOLUNTARY, UM, RESTRICTIVE GOVERNANCE. HE'S WORKED WITH DEAN, UM, CYNTHIA SORT OF MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE TEAM IN THE LOOP SO THAT THEY SEE A COPY OF IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIR. COULD YOU ASK THAT EVERYONE DOES NOT SPEAKING YET THEMSELVES? THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME DISTURBANCE ON THE LINE. YEAH. UM, I WONDER IF THAT IS COMMISSIONER IS OURS MIKE, THAT GIVES US PROBLEMS MAYBE. UH, I'M NOT SURE, BUT, UH, WE'RE ALL GOOD NOW, UH, COMMISSIONER GANAS, PULIDO, THEN COMMISSIONER AND PULL THEN COMMISSIONER FLORES. YEAH, I THINK MY QUESTION GOT ANSWERED WITH THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT IT WAS REGARDING DIVIDING SEVEN 70 INTO 5% AND WHERE THAT WAS GOING. SO I WANTED TO VERIFY, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. NO, I'M SORRY TO, I'M SORRY TO BREAK IN, BUT I'M NOT SURE UNDER OPEN MEETING LAWS THAT I CAN RECOGNIZE YOU IF YOUR VIDEO'S NOT ON. SO I JUST ONE, ARE YOU ALL NOT ABLE TO SEE ME? SORRY. IT'S CUTTING IN AND OUT. I CAN SEE MYSELF FINE. SO I'M NOT SURE. I CAN'T TELL WHEN YOU ALL CAN'T SEE ME. SORRY. I'M CURRENTLY OFF KRISHNA RIVERA. ARE WE ABLE TO, UM, MAYBE NOT FOR VOTES, BUT RECOGNIZE COUNTRY GANAS, QUITO TO SPEAK AND ASK QUESTIONS WHILE WE MAY NOT BE GETTING ANY VIDEOS, IS THAT ALLOWABLE CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON THE ANDREW RIVERA FOR BOTH A VOTE AND DEBATE A COMMISSIONER CAN DO SO VIA AUDIO OR VIDEO. OH, OKAY. GREAT. I WAS MISINFORMED. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND COMMIT YOUR ASS. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THAT'S OKAY. UM, IT WAS REGARDING THAT SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE COUNT, EXCEPT NOT ABOUT ANY KIND OF LIKE THE, THE THREE VERSUS FOUR 60 VERSUS 80, BUT I WAS TRYING TO CONFIRM THE NUMBER OF UNITS, ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE'RE GETTING, UM, AS A RESULT OF, UH, BASICALLY WAIVING THIS OWNER OCCUPIED REQUIREMENT. SO IS IT THREE OR FOUR? IT'S SEVEN NEW UNIT. OH, IT'S SEVEN. IT'S THE FULL SEVEN. OKAY. YES. MA'AM THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM MR. APPLE. MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED EARLIER. COMMISSIONER IS OURS QUESTION ABOUT THE IT'S OFF THE TABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FLORES, [01:00:12] PRESSURE FLORES. UM, MY QUESTION IS FOR MS. SWORE, HOW MANY UNITS ARE CURRENTLY OWNER OCCUPIED? AND IF WE PASS THIS TODAY, WHAT IS THE TRANSITION OF THOSE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS? UH, THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS, UH, JUST THE 450 ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED FOR THESE UNITS WERE CONSTRUCTED THAT THERE WOULD, THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO OWNER OCCUPIED IN THERE. THIS WOULD RESULT IN NO UNOCCUPIED UNITS. THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO BE FOR LEASE UNIT. GREAT. UM, MR. RIVERA AND I ARE HAVING A DISPUTE OVER WHETHER OR NOT COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL'S TURN COUNTED. UM, IS THERE A, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO ASK A QUESTION OR SPEAK DURING THE ROUND ROBIN FISHER KASI I'LL ASK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK MR. CAMPBELL'S TURN REALLY COUNTED. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. SWORE, UM, KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON, UH, ON MS. UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE EXISTING UNITS. SO THE FOUR 55% OF THOSE ARE AFFORDABLE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND THEY'RE ALREADY IN CIRCULATION AND THEY'RE THEY'RE OWNER OCCUPIED. THEY ARE NOT THERE FOR RENTAL. EVERYTHING THAT IS, UH, ON THE PROPERTY IS FOR LEASE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT MET THE SPIRIT OF THE, OF THE EXISTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. SO THE EXISTING FOUR 50 MET THE, THE SPIRIT TO ALLOW THAT IN THE FIRST PHASES, THE THIRD PHASE WAS IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT CONTEMPLATED TO HAVE THE OWNER OCCUPIED REQUIREMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND TO ALLOW THAT TO BE FOR LEASE AND INCREASE THE DENSITY ALONG THE CORRIDOR. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THAT WAS HELPFUL. ALRIGHT. THAT IS OUR LAST ROUND ROBIN. UM, WE HAVE A MOTION. SURE. SHEA. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND PER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UH, COMMISSIONER SHADE. YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? SURE. I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AT THIS TIME, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN REAL ESTATE PRICES ARE SO CRAZY AND EVEN WITH CONDOS, WITH THE PRICES GOING UP CONSIDERABLY, AND WE KEEP SEEING AN INCREASE OF, UH, NEEDING A WORKFORCE CENTRAL, UM, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE NEWCOMERS HERE. UM, I THINK THE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT THEY ARE, UH, WILLING TO, UH, BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, SO THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WE WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST SECOND COMMISSIONER WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? PRETTY FRUSTRATING. I MEAN, THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN 14 YEARS. I WISH WE COULD ADD ANOTHER 500 HOMES HERE INSTEAD OF JUST ANOTHER 35 OR SO. AND, UH, I DON'T THINK TODAY WE WOULD PASS SUCH RESTRICTIONS SAYING, OH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS PERCENTAGE OF OWNERSHIP, THIS PERCENTAGE OF RENTERS, IT'S THE RENTERS THAT ARE GETTING HIT THE HARDEST IN SO MANY WAYS RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE HOUSING UNITS. THE BETTER THOUGH OWNERSHIP IS AWESOME. IF WE CAN GET A NEW CODE TO GET SOME MORE HOUSING IN THAT AREA, RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WE'RE SPEAK AGAINST, LET'S SPEAK NEUTRALLY MUTUALLY CONCERNED. NOW I DON'T KNOW IF MY VIDEO IS ON OR NOT, SO Y'ALL WILL HAVE TO LET ME KNOW. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO CLOSE AS MANY THINGS AS POSSIBLE. UM, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS GOOD, THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE UNITS AND GETTING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS IS GREAT. AND, UM, THERE'S TONS OF HOUSING IN THIS AREA. WE DON'T NEED 500 UNITS IN THIS AREA. THERE'S ACTUALLY TONS OF UNITS AND I'M MORE GETTING DEVELOPED ALL THE TIME. I WAS VISITING A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN THIS AREA, UM, NOT ON THIS SIDE, BUT MORE ON THE, UM, RIVERSIDE, EAST RIVERSIDE SIDE OF THINGS WHERE, UM, I MEAN, WE NEED TO REMEMBER, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST DENSELY DENSELY DEVELOPED AREAS. AND, UM, TO MR. EIGHT'S POINT, IT IS, UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN ACTUALLY HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF RENTERSHIP AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND ALSO THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR, UM, OWNERSHIP AND OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS, CREATING A CERTAIN [01:05:01] DEGREE OF STABILITY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING FOR RENTERS AS PART OF AN ECOSYSTEM, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIVE IN SILOS. SO I'M, I WILL VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I AM CONCERNED. AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO ESPECIALLY CONSIDER THE TRADE OFFS THAT WE'RE MAKING, UM, FOR ENTITLEMENTS AND HOW MANY TIMES, INCLUDING SOME OF THE CASES WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY, UH, STUFF COMES BACK ASKING FOR THE VERY SAME THING THAT WAS TRADED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, FOR COMMUNITY BENEFIT ELSEWHERE. SO I THINK CONTEXT IS IMPORTANT AND NEIGHBORHOOD IS STABILITY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO RENTERS AS IT IS TO OWNERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MOTION TO SPEAK, UH, IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY A WORD ON BEHALF OF HOMEOWNERSHIP. UM, IT IS FOR DECADES AND DECADES BEEN NOT THE PRIMARY WAY, BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT FAMILIES ARE ABLE TO BUILD EQUITY, UM, THAT THEY CAN USE TO SELL LATER AND LIVE ON IN RETIREMENT OR PASS ONTO THEIR CHILDREN, UH, IN THIS CASE, UH, I THINK, UH, IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY ACCURATE THAT BUILDING ADDITIONAL OWNER-OCCUPIED UNITS WOULD NOT HELP, UM, PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE TO BUILD EQUITY, UM, AND THAT IT IS A MUCH BETTER DEAL, UM, TO BUILD SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFITS, UM, BENEFITS FOR RENT. BUT I, I DO THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO CONSIDER, UH, THE IMPORTANCE AND THE VALUE OF OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES ALL OVER THE CITY, AS A WAY TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD WEALTH FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR HEIRS. OKAY. I'M GOING TO COUNT THAT AS A NEUTRAL. SO I STILL HAVE ONE SLOT IN FAVOR, ONE SLOT OPPOSED OR, UH, NEUTRAL, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD SPEAKING IN FAVOR OR AGAINST NEUTRAL. OKAY. LAST SPEAKER IN FAVOR. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER HOWARD. SO I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD THE DEVELOPER FOR FURTHER CREATIVE THOUGHT PROCESS TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE. I MEAN, THE, THE IDEA OF CHOICE IS ONE THAT WE ALL SHOULD BE AFFORDED ANY OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS OF ACHIEVING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD UPHOLD. SO I'M SUPPORTING THEM. YOU GREAT. AND, UH, I GUESS THIS IS A VIRTUAL MEETING. SO COMMISSIONER HOWARD, I GUESS GUNS ARE ALLOWED IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR HOME, NOT ALLOWED IN CITY HALL, IF IT'S ANY CONSOLE IT'S KIND OF HOT IN HERE, SO, OKAY. ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL? ALRIGHT. UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THIS RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, RAISE YOUR THING. LET'S SEE. SO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, 12, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, 13. OKAY, GREAT. SO THAT'S 13 ZERO. ALL RIGHT. UM, OUR NEXT CASE [B.5 Rezoning: C14-2020-0062 - Webberville; District 1] IS 20 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX TWO HOOVERVILLE ROAD. UM, HEATHER CHAFFIN, DO WE HAVE YOU ON THE LINE? YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS HEATHER CHAPMAN WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, UH, AS STATED AS STATED IT'S CASE C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX TO WEBER VILLE. THE REQUESTS WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS CASE FOR, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE JULY 28 AGENDA, AND THERE WAS A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO THIS DATE. I'M GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE DETAILS QUICKLY. THE REQUEST IS TO GO FROM F S THREE AND P TO SF NP AGAIN, 1907 WEAVERVILLE ROAD. IT'S ABOUT 11 AND A HALF ACRES. THE SITE IS, UM, IT HAS FRONTAGE ON BOTH WESTERVILLE ROAD AND TANNEHILL LANE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET NORTH OF SAMUEL HOUSTON AVENUE. THE PROPERTIES UNDEVELOPED, I THINK MAYBE THERE'S ONE HOUSE ON THERE. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS DUMPED M S N P AND S F AND P. THOSE AREAS ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH IS S S AND P PROPERTY THAT IS DEVELOPED WITH RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY TO THE WEST IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ZONED, SF, THREE MP WITH SINGLE FAMILY LAND USES. THERE ARE ALSO SOME SMALL POCKETS OF S F A N P AND S AND P, WHICH ARE HIGHER DENSITY, HIGHER DENSITY. RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST ACROSS 10 HILL LANE, HIS PROPERTY ZONE , [01:10:02] WHICH HAS ALSO RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY LAND USE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP LAST TIME IS THAT THERE IS A SITE PLAN IN EXISTENCE ON HIS PROPERTY. IT'S A LAND USE SITE PLAN, ONLY A PART, A SITE PLAN. IT WAS FILED IN 2006. IT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW IN THE DSD ABOUT AN EXTENSION. SO IT'S NOT BEING REVISED IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THE LIFE OF THAT SITE PLAN WOULD BE EXTENDED. THE DESIGN ON THAT SITE PLAN IS UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL INFILL STANDARDS THAT EAST MLK, UH, COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, APPROVED FOR THIS AREA DEVELOPMENT UNDER THOSE REGULATIONS IS, UH, PRETTY INTRICATE. IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT C IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL INFO REQUIREMENTS, AT LEAST 40% OF THE UNITS WOULD BE SEE, SIMPLE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS COTTAGES COTTAGE, LOTS CAN NOT BE MORE THAN 20% OF THOSE. UH, THE INFO TOOL ALSO HAS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT THERE MUST BE 10% TOWNHOUSE AND MULTIFAMILY THERE'S MAXIMUMS FOR THE, IF THE SITE WERE TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER THIS, THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO DO THE ENGINEERED SITE PLAN, AS WELL AS SUBDIVISION FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURES. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY REQUIRES ACCESS TO PUBLIC LIGHT AND BLANK STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE S AND P REQUEST. THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TYPE OF GRAPHIC CONSTRAINTS. IF YOU LOOK AT EXHIBIT B, THE AERIAL EXHIBIT HAS THE CONTOURS ON IT. THERE WERE ALSO TREES ON THE SITE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TIP OF GRAPHIC CONSTRAINTS AND TREES MEANS IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET A VERY STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY, LOT LAYOUT UNDER SF SIX. THE UNITS CAN BE CLUSTERED IN A MANNER THAT WOULD REQUIRE DRIVEWAYS INSTEAD OF PUBLIC STREETS, AND THEREFORE REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS MY END OF THIS, AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. UM, SEE I HAVE JARED CORVELLE FOR THE APPLICANT. ARE YOU ON THE LINE, JARED? CORVELLE IF WE HAVE YOU, OH, THERE WE GO. I GOT THE, I GOT THE NOTICE. I'M NO LONGER MEETING. SORRY ABOUT IT. UH, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. GO AHEAD. OKAY. ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION? I'M UP AND READY? HOLD ON. THERE WE GO. OKAY. WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN. YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. UM, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO PAGE TWO, UH, OF THE PRESENTATION, UH, WHICH IS THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. UM, SO AS HEATHER HAS ALREADY MENTIONED, UH, THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PROJECT IS SF THREE NP, WHICH IS, UH, UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DESIGNATED AS RESIDENTIAL URBAN INFILL, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR HIGH DENSITY. SINGLE FAMILY USES AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL USES, UH, IS ABOUT 11 AND A HALF ACRES. UH, IT IS EIGHT. UH, IT CONTAINS EIGHT ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE SPACE, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME, UH, LARGER ENERGIES IN GASEOUS AND THAT'S LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY. THERE IS AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR 86 UNITS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. IT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2016. UM, AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, OBVIOUSLY A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN AUSTIN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. AND WE, UH, WERE ESSENTIALLY, UH, REACHED OUT TO, BY THE SELLER OF THIS PARTICULAR TRAPS, UH, TO, TO HAVE STORE BUILT, UH, FORMERLY KNOWN SPSW, UH, TO KIND OF HAVE OUR, OUR EXPERTISE, UH, KIND OF PLACED ON THE SITE, UH, BECAUSE WE FELT THAT MAYBE THERE WAS A FEW THINGS MISSING THAT MAYBE WE COULD, WE COULD FURTHER, UH, EVALUATE. AND SO, AS WE, AS WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A SITE PLAN THAT YIELDED, UM, JUST OVER 102 UNITS, UM, AGAIN, UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE EXISTING ZONING IS, IS THE RED TAPE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO GET TO CONSTRUCTION. UH, AS HEATHER MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 40% OF THESE HOMES HAVE TO BE SINGLE FAMILY USE AND PER CITY DEFINITION, THAT IS A FEE SIMPLE LOT. IT IS NOT A DEFINED BY USE. IT IS SIMPLY [01:15:01] AGAIN, DEFINED BY IF IT IS A FEE SIMPLE LOT. AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT, AT THIS PARTICULAR SITE, YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE A CERTAIN LEG OF RIGHT OF WAY INTO THE PROJECT, UH, TO, TO AGAIN, KIND OF GET THAT 40% SINGLE FAMILY USE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF THAT CAN BE PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED. SO ESSENTIALLY, UNLESS I HAVE SIX SITE PLAN THAT IS CONNECTED TO AN SF THREE PROJECT. AND SO, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, YOU KNOW, WITH AN SS THREE, UH, COMING WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE, YOU'D BE RUNNING TWO CLAPS, YOU'D HAVE ONE THAT HAS THE LOTS, YOU'D HAVE ONE THAT, UH, PLATS, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ONE SINGLE LOT. YOU'VE GOT RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION, SUBDIVISION, CONSTRUCTION, UH, AGREEMENTS, AND BONDING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. YOU'VE GOT ONE LEG THAT HAS, UH, CITY MAINTAINED, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN THE REST OF IT, UH, PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED. AND SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE FELT THAT THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, UH, MAYBE IT WAS NOT THE BEST USE. UH, SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO REZONE THIS TO SF SIX. WE ARE PROPOSING THE EXACT SAME USE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE EXACT SAME DENSITY. IT WAS CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER THE SF THREE NP. AND WE'LL LOOK AT KIND OF THE BENEFITS TO THAT. SO IF WE CAN, UH, FLIP TO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE, UH, I THINK IT'S WORTH HIGHLIGHTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATION AND OUTREACH. UM, IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE PAST, UH, OR THAN WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF USED TO. SO WE MET WITH THE HOG PEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATION IN OCTOBER OF 2019. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, KIND OF THROUGH THAT TIMELINE, UM, AND PRETTY MUCH THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY, WE KIND OF GOT TO A POINT WHERE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET AND ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPOSAL. AND WE KIND OF SET TWO STANDARDS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, TIED TO THIS ZONING REQUEST. AND THAT WAS, UH, PROVIDING 15% AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, AT A MAX 70% FF, M F I FOR EVERY UNIT PERMITTED ABOVE WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED AS THE 86 UNIT THRESHOLD. UH, AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME, SOME PARKWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT ARE REALLY NEEDED IN THE AREA. AND SO WE DISCUSSED, UH, OUR, OUR EFFORTS TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO EARMARK FUNDS FOR THE RED BLUFF, A NATURE PRESERVE. UM, UNFORTUNATELY KIND OF BEYOND THE STAGE, THIS INFORMATION WAS, WAS KIND OF A SHOUT OUT TO THE LISTSERV OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT, UH, REALLY THE, THE PARTICIPATION WAS, WAS REALLY LOW. AND, AND SO, UH, WE RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT FROM, FROM THE CHAIR AND FROM OTHER OTHER RESIDENTS THAT WE MET WITH DIRECTLY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO GET, UH, ENOUGH PARTICIPATION FOR THE PRESIDENT TO SAY, AND, YOU KNOW, AS A WHOLE, YES, WE'RE ALL IN FOR THIS. UH, SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, WE MET WITH THE MTCT, UH, NUMEROUS TIMES, AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH. AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THIS, UH, IS THERE ANY CASE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN MBA IS NOT IN THEIR PURVIEW TO VOTE ONE? UM, SO, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, THE LAST GROUP WE REACHED OUT TO OUT OF COURTESY WAS OUR NEIGHBORING, UH, STONEGATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE DETAILS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A POSTPONEMENT FROM THEM, UH, LAST MONTH AND, UH, OVER THE LAST FOUR WEEKS, UM, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY CORRESPONDENCE. UH, WE'VE BEEN REACHING OUT AND TRYING TO GET SOME, UH, SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO, UH, TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM. SO IF WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, LOOKING AT THE EXISTING DESIGN, UM, THE DESIGN CONCEPT, THIS IS HEATHER HAS ALREADY ALLUDED TO, IS TYPOGRAPHY IS A HUGE HURDLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UH, THE LOT CONFIGURATION, UH, REALLY REDUCES THE EFFICIENCY OF THE DESIGN. UH, WE'VE GOT REALLY LIMITED CONNECTIVITY. UH, THE DASH LINE THAT KIND OF RUN THROUGH WHAT LOOKED LIKE BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE AND PONDS, UH, ACTUALLY RUN THROUGH A MAJOR DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND IS NOT A FEASIBLE, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY. OKAY. UM, MR. CORBELL, UH, WHEN WE GET TO Q AND A, ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR TOPICS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXPOUND UPON? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK REALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, I THINK THAT THAT REALLY KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR IN REGARDS TO THAT REDUCE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND MORE COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE, UM, WOULD BE THE MAJOR, UM, BENEFIT TO, TO THE PROPOSED ZONING. GOTCHA. OKAY. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP AN OPPOSITION, ADAM SHARP. ARE YOU ON THE LINE AND HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE ADAM SHARP YOU'RE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUND GAME PLAN FOR THE RESIDENT BUILD INFILL STANDARDS [01:20:01] IS APPROVED FOR 19. I BELIEVE IT WAS ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2016, NOT 2006. IS THAT WHAT KIND OF PROVES YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LOT OR CAN YOU, UH, ARE YOU ABLE TO GET OFF SPEAKER PHONE OR GET BETTER RECEPTION? SO NOW THIS BETTER THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. WELL, SO THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT A LAND USE SITE PLAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL INSULT STANDARDS WAS APPROVED FOR 1907 WEBER BILL IN 2006, I BELIEVE IT WAS DECEMBER 13TH, 2016, THAT'S 2006. THE REPORT LEAVES OUT WHAT KIND OF INFIELD SCHOOL WAS APPROVED IN 2016 SAYING ONLY THAT THE TOOL APPROVED THEN THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN SPECIFICALLY THE TOOL THAT WAS, WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER, THE ESM OKAY. PLAN IDENTIFIES SPECIFIC SITES IN MOST OF OUR DISTRICTS WHERE WE SUPPORT THE USE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER TOOL, THIS SITE, IF NOT 97, WHERE PROPEL IT'S UP, UH, IT'S LIKE EAT THEM. OKAY. SO IT'S 2016. THE COMMISSION APPROVED A CONDITIONAL USE PLAN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER DEVELOPMENT OF 86, A UNIT ON THIS SITE THAT IS NOT CERTIFIED FOR USE IN THE EAST MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THE PSAP REPORT AS THIS APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PLAN IS UP FOR EXTENSION IF EXPENSIVE OF THE APPROVED PLAN AS POSSIBLE AND UNDER EVALUATION, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A PHONY STORY? BILL WANTS TO REZONE TO SFX TO NOT DO 86 UNITS AS APPROVED, BUT NOW AS MANY AS 130 UNITS, THEY SAY IT WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE OF LESS PAPER AND MORE GREEN SPACE. BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT ALL WE KNOW IS WE MAY BE ALL WE KNOW IS THAT MAYBE THEY ARE HAVING PROBLEMS COMPLYING WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PLAN. YOU APPROVED IN 2016, AS FAR AS PROVIDING PUBLIC WORKS. THAT IS NOT IN THE REPORT. THERE WAS NO BLAKE COMMENT ABOUT LESS PAVEMENT, BUT NOT ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, UH, THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE APPROVED AND CONNECT AND PLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LEARNED THAT THE 86 UNITS WERE APPROVED WITHOUT CONSULTATION. AND NOW SEES STORYVILLE ONCE 130 UNITS WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION OR EVEN AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 OR ANY EXPLANATION AS TO HOW THEY DETERMINED THEY NEED TO BUILD A 130 UNITS INSTEAD OF 86. YEAH. KIND OF A PROCESS THAT WE SHOULD BE WITHIN. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT THE SSX TO FIX A BIG MISTAKE. SOMEONE MADE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF STREETS THEY COULD PROVIDE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS NOW BEING OVERRUN WITH ZONING CASE. PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS URBAN CENTERED WAS APPROVED ON THE SITE MARKED FOR IT, NOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THEY NEED TO BUILD ABOUT 50 MORE UNITS SO THEY CAN BUILD SMALLER STREETS, PRIVATE STREETS AND NOT PUBLIC ONES? WHY DO THEY NEED MORE UNITS TO MEET A LOWER BAR WITH STREETS AND RIGHT OF WAY, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS. AND I WOULD PLEASE RECOMMEND A, YOU GUYS DENIED THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALL RIGHT. UH, BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. SURE. UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE. UM, I THINK THE REBUTTAL, UH, IN THIS CASE WOULD BE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO ANSWER A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS. UM, HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO ENGAGE IN SOME DIALOGUE WITH STONE GATE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THAT DID, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. UH, WE COULD HAVE, CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT'S THE MINDS AT EASE IS WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING 103 UNITS, UH, WITH OUR CURRENT SITE PLAN. AND SO THIS IS NOT, UH, AN EFFORT TO INCREASE TO 140 UNITS, WHICH WOULD TECHNICALLY BE ALLOWED UNDER SF. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF BENEFITS TO BUILDING LESS INFRASTRUCTURE AND LESS ROADWAY, AND THAT'S A WEEKEND PROTECT OUR CHANNELS AND NOT CREATE A UNWARRANTED IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, WITHIN A, WITHIN A DRAINAGE BASIN. UH, I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT IN 2016, THAT THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED WHILE IT IS A, IT'S A VIABLE PLAN, IT DOES WORK. BUT I THINK THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. AND IF WE LOOK AT THAT PLAN, IT'S CONNECTED BY ALLEYS AND STREETS, AND THAT IN OUR OPINION, UH, IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO CREATING A, AN ACTUAL COMMUNITY. AND SO THE WAY THAT WE HAVE RECONFIGURED THE SITE AND WHILE IT HAS YIELDED MORE UNITS, WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE A MUCH MORE CONNECTED SITE PLAN WITH INTENTIONAL GREEN SPACE THAT ALSO ALLOWS A BETTER VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM WEBER BUILT TO TANNEHILL AND DOESN'T ISOLATE PARTS OF, OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO, UH, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER, MAYBE ADDING A LITTLE BIT MORE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, CREATING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE PROJECT THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE NECESSITATED. [01:25:02] UM, I THINK THAT THE 103 UNITS SITE PLAN, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS, UH, CERTAINLY SUPERIOR TO THE 86 UNIT PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. AND THE EXTENSION WAS FILED BECAUSE THE SELLER WANTED TO ENSURE THAT HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, IF THE ZONING DOES NOT FALL THROUGH OR COME THROUGH THAT HE CAN TURN AROUND AND DO A SITE PLAN REVISION AT THE CITY TO GET OVER A HUNDRED UNITS UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, MR. SHAW, THEN COMMISSIONER SEEGER MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. OH MAN, I JUST, I'M NEVER GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT RIGHT BEFORE I LEAVE THE COMMISSIONER SHEA MOVES TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEGER, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR NINE, 10, 10, UH, ALL OPPOSE. OKAY. 10 ZERO, ZERO. UM, SO, UH, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER SHAW. SO, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IT SHOULD BE OKAY. YEAH. SO ON PAGE 10 OF 10 ON THE BACKUP, UM, IT, UH, IT HAS THE FOLLOWING COMMENT FOR A PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL INFILL DEVELOPMENT, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN SHOWING A LOCATION OF LAND USES LAYOUT OF STREETS. LOTS OPEN SPACE MUST BE APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GUESSING THAT WAS DONE IN 2016. SO, UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE NEED TO SAY, SEE THAT SAME DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH LAND USE LAYOUT OF STREETS, LOTS OPEN SPACES, UM, BEFORE AS PART OF THIS APPROVAL, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, OR IS THAT GOING TO COME TO US LATER? UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO APPROVE MORE THAN JUST THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE THE WHOLE LAYOUT. YES. COMMISSIONER HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WISHES TO DEVELOP WITH THE EXISTING LAYOUT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR EXTENSION THAT THAT LAYOUT HAS ALREADY GONE TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN 2016. SO THAT ONE WOULD NOT COME BACK TO YOU. IF THE OWNER WANTED TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT APPLICATION AND REVISE IT AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS. YES. THEN IT WOULD COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THEN THE THIRD SCENARIO IS IF THE SF SIX ZONING IS GRANTED, THEN THE REVIEW OF THAT WOULD BE OF THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE. I GUESS I'M STILL CONFUSED BECAUSE I THINK AT SOME POINT DON'T WE NEED FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL INFILL TOOL, WHICH I DON'T HEAR THAT THEY WANT TO REMOVE THAT DON'T WE, I DON'T HEAR US. I DON'T, I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A SCENARIO WHERE THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LAYOUT. UM, SO I GUESS IT, UM, BUT YOU'RE, I GUESS A, WOULD IT BE THAT WE DON'T NEED TO? I WAS STATING, YOU KNOW, JUST ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S INTENT IS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THEY CHOSE TO NOT MODIFY THAT, UH, APPROVED SITE LAYOUT, THEN IT WOULD NOT NEED TO COME BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT AGAIN, I'M HEARING, THEY DO PLAN TO, THEY DO WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO APPROVE THAT. I'M GOOD IF THEY, IF THEY END UP GETTING AN EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING, UM, ZONING PART, A SITE PLAN, THEN, THEN IF THEY WANTED TO MODIFY THAT, YES, IT DOES COME BACK TO YOU ONE SCENARIO, BUT IF THEY GET THE SF ZONING, THEN IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SITE PLAN AND NOT NEED TO COME BACK. SO, UH, MAYBE I'M LEARNING SOMETHING HERE. SO THE SSX I MOVING THE RESIDENTIAL INTEL TOOL, THEN IT'S NOT REMOVING IT. IT IS IT'S RESIDENTIAL INSTALL TOOL IS AN OPTION, SO THEY COULD, THEY COULD CHOOSE TO DEVELOP THE RESIDENTIAL INSTALL TOOL UNDER SS. AND IF YOU CHOOSE THE RESIDENTIAL INSULTS RULE, YES, YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR LAYOUT APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION. [01:30:03] THANK YOU. GREAT. SO COMMISSIONER SHAW, IF I CAN JUST CLARIFY, UH, I THINK YOU WERE ESTABLISHING THAT IF THEY GOT THE REZONING TO SF SIX, UH, AND THUS WERE NOT NEEDING TO USE THE INFILL TOOL, UM, BECAUSE YOU CAN DO WITH WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WANT TO DO UNDER SFC, THAT THAT SITE PLAN, WHICH WILL BE A NEW SITE PLAN WOULD NOT BE COMING BACK BEFORE US THAT IT WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. UH, CHRIS, YOUR CIGARETTE, I THINK YOU WERE NEXT. YES. I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE A PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE NEW DESIGN FOR 103 UNITS? YES, MA'AM, IT'S IN A, IT'S IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT I UNFORTUNATELY SPOKE TOO SLOWLY TO GET YOU, BUT IT IS THE SLIDE DIRECTLY AFTER THE APPROVED 86 UNIT SITE PLAN. COULD YOU PULL THAT UP PLEASE? BUT STAFF PULLED THAT UP, PLEASE. OKAY. FROM WHAT I CAN SEE IN WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY ON THE PRIOR APPROVED SITE PLAN, THE AREA THAT HAS THE DOG BLIND FOR THE PATHS THROUGH THAT AREA, YOU INDICATED THAT IT WAS NOT A FEASIBLE AREA BECAUSE OF MANY CONDITIONS, MAJOR DRAINAGE, ET CETERA. BUT I SEE IN THIS NEW SITE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, UH, HOMES IN THE AREA THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH. AM I READING YOUR SITE PLAN INCORRECTLY? SO LISTEN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO, UH, ANDREW, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, LET'S GO TO THE, MAYBE THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE CAN SEE A SIDE BY SIDE OF THE PROPOSED VERSUS, SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE APPROVED PLAN IS THE FORMER APPLICANT DETAILING EXISTING LOCATIONS OF WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION PONDS. AND IN A PRIOR, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, THE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY TO THE NORTH, UH, THEY RE THEY ENTERED INTO A SHARED WATER QUALITY AND DRAINAGE AGREEMENT. AND SO IF WE LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED PLAN AND THAT AREA THAT IS ESSENTIALLY COMPLETELY WHITED OUT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT IS ALL EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT. AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ENGINEER THIS SITE, UH, WHICH WAS NOT DONE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN A, UH, IF YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO CREATE WITHIN THAT EXISTING DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING ALL OF THE WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION FOR BOTH THE CHURCH AND FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, BEING A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT IS EXISTING WITHIN THAT, WHICH IS ALSO, UH, INCLUSIVE OF A, AN EXISTING WETLANDS, UH, WHICH IS AT THE SOUTHERN MOST, UH, END OF THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, IT LIMITS EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN DO WITHIN THAT AREA. AND SO I BELIEVE WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS TRYING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH THE SITE PLAN A WAS TO JUST SIMPLY SHOW A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, UH, HAVING NOT DONE THE MATH AND THE ENGINEERING TO PROVE THAT THOSE THINGS LOOK LIKE BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, FISHING PONDS, OR SIMPLY EXISTING SWALES AND THE TOPOGRAPHY THAT DENOTE PONDS, BUT IT DOES NOT SHOW THEM BEING COMBINED PER THE WATER QUALITY AND DRAINAGE AGREEMENT THAT WAS ENTERED INTO. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE DONE THE MATH BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR 103 UNIT PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR A COMPLETENESS CHECK WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, WE HAVE CREATED, UH, PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS TO GO AROUND THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, UH, AS WELL AS CREATED, UH, NUMEROUS, UH, CONNECTION POINTS THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE, UH, AS I KINDA MENTIONED EARLIER, THE INTENTIONAL GREEN SPACES OF THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF ONE FURTHER QUESTION, WHICH, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS THIS PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING? LET'S SEE, I KNOW IT'S IN MLK COMBINED. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, WHICH SUBSECTION THERE'S TWO COMMENTS. THERE'S HOG PEN. AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE, I THOUGHT [01:35:01] YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE THIRD SECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, THE OFFICIAL CITY OF AUSTIN. ONE STONE GATE, I KNOW IS THE STREET FROM THIS. THIS IS CLOSER TO HOG PEN. IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THIS HOG PEN. OH, GOOD. NO, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE A BETTER ANSWER FOR IT. OKAY. UH, JARED CORDELL WAS STORYVILLE. UH, YES MA'AM. SO, UH, IF WE LOOK AT PAGE THREE OF THE PRESENTATION OR PLAY OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNICATION OUTREACH, UH, THE HOG PEN WAS OUR INITIAL, UH, DISCUSSION. I'VE HAD, UH, I'VE GOT A PAST RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION. AND, AND SO THAT'S WHO WE MET WITH ORIGINALLY IN OCTOBER. AND THAT IS THE GROUP THAT, UH, WE DISCUSSED THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT AND THE EARMARKING, UH, PARKLAND FEES, UH, FOR THE RED BLUFF NATURE PRESERVE. AND SO MY EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE TELLS ME THAT THIS INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THE INITIAL GROUP THAT WE MET WITH WAS DISPERSED TO THE, TO THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THERE JUST, WASN'T A LOT OF PARTICIPATION AND, AND FOR THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ACCOUNT THROUGH IT. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC, UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UH, THE PRESIDENT, UH, ALLIE AND SOME OF HER, UH, CONSTITUENTS, UM, WERE IN CONTACT WITH ME THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, UH, LETTING ME KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE SUPPORT THIS REQUEST, BUT WITHOUT A LOT OF PARTICIPATION, UH, UH, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO OFFICIALLY DO ANYTHING. SO THE MLK MTCT WAS ASKED TO STEP IN, BUT COULD NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM OTHER COMMISSIONERS, MR. SHAY THEN COMMISSIONERS ARE SO, UM, OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS FOR LIKE SF SIX AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GETTING AND, YOU KNOW, WITH , IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF INHERENT POSSIBILITIES FOR COMMUNITY BENEFITS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO, I THINK YOU SAID THREE, THREE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND, UM, THAT, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE, UM, I GUESS, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR LIKE OPEN SPACE PARK SPACE? I MEAN, IS IT A PARK DEFICIENT AREA? I MEAN, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE USING SF SIX TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MORE INVITING DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT OPEN SPACE, IS IT IS PUBLIC PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE FOR RENT AND FOR SALE? TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO FEEL LIKE AND THE OPEN SPACE PARK SPACE, ET CETERA. YES. A GREAT QUESTION. SO I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF WE, IF WE LOOK BACK AT THE OLD PLAN, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, WE HAD, UH, NINE DUPLEX, LOTS, UH, THAT WERE FRONTING TANNAHILL AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE REST AND HALF OF THE SITE, WHICH IS, UH, JUST A BIG CLUSTER OF HOMES. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT A, THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN LIBREVILLE AND TANNAHILL, WE SAW THAT AS A HUGE BENEFIT, ESPECIALLY TALKING WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, PARKLAND DEFICIENCIES IN THE AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT GOES TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN, THE PARKLAND, IF YOU ARE DEDICATING PUBLIC PARK SPACE, RIGHT, YOU, EVERYBODY PAYS A MASSIVE FEE AND IT GETS LOST IN THIS BLACK HOLE. AND SO THE WAY WE WERE APPROACHING THIS IS, UH, THEY NEAR MARCH EXACTLY WHERE THEY WANT THESE FUNDS PLACED. AND SO WE'VE MADE A DEDICATION, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FUNDS OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOESN'T WANT FOR, UH, PARKLAND DEDICATION TO BE EARMARKED FOR THAT RED BLUFF NATURE PRESERVES. UM, AND SO WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN INTO THE CITY REVIEW PROCESS. OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT OUR ZONING EFFORTS ARE, UM, OUR FINAL BEFORE WE REALLY DIVE INTO THOSE DETAILS. BUT WE GOT THE CHURCH TO OUR NORTH WHO HAS AN UNUSED APP EASEMENT WE'RE IN WE'RE IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO CREATE A 50 FOOT WIDE BY ROUGHLY 500 FOOT SWATH OF LAND, TO PUBLIC PARK SPACE, UH, FOR BOTH, UH, ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CHURCH AND OUR COMMUNITY, AND ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, PROVIDE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IS ADMITTED. IT'S IT'S OPEN, RIGHT? WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PLAYSCAPE, UH, DESIGNED BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND MAKES SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE BEFORE WE [01:40:01] CAN REALLY SEE WHAT TYPE OF PUBLIC SPACE THAT THEY MIGHT WANT US TO DEDICATE. BUT WE'RE LEAVING THAT OPEN, UM, THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS. AND I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WEBER, TRANSPORTATION, PARTY, NETWORK, STREET BUSES, AND PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? UM, YOU KNOW, TELL US ABOUT WHAT'S FRONTING THAT NOW WHAT'S THE SPECS ON THE ROADWAY. SURE. HEATHER CHAPMAN PLANNING AND ZONING. I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT IF IT'S A PRIORITY NETWORK. I CAN SAY THAT, UM, IT'S CLASS, SHE'S A SNP CLASS, TWO, BOTH LIBREVILLE ROAD AND TANNEHILL LANE. ARE THERE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH OF THOSE STREETS? THERE WAS A BICYCLE ROUTE ON WHETHER VILLE AND CAPITAL METRO IS THE METRO STOP ARE ON BETTER LEVER, BALE AND TANNEHILL WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF MY MICROPHONE IS HAVING A COUPLE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING JUST FOR MY UNDERSTANDING. I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION. THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO GO TO 20% AFFORDABLE UNITS. IF THE DAUGHTER NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE SITE IS NOT LIMITED TO ONE. UH, SO JUST FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M JUST CONFIRMING, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE CONSERVED CONSIDERED OR DISCUSSED? SO WE ARE WILLING TO, TO INCREASE THE, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, TO 20% OVER THE 86 UNIT THRESHOLD. UM, AND YES, I MEAN, WE WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE SUBMITTING A HUNDRED, THREE UNITS SITE PLAN. UH, WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO MAX THIS OUT OF THE 143. I THINK OUR ONLY REQUEST, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE TO NOT LIMIT THE SITE WITH A CEO TO X AMOUNT OF UNITS PER ACRE. THAT WAY AS WE GET THROUGH THE CITY REVIEW PROCESS, IF WE, UH, FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, NEED THE ABILITY TO ADD A UNIT OR TWO TO POTENTIALLY OFFSET THAT, UH, 20%, UH, AT 70% MAX MFI, WE WOULD LIKE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. OKAY. AND I JUST, I WOULD JUST WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT CONSIDERATION OF AFFORDABILITY AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CASE IN WHATEVER DIRECTION IT GOES, UM, AS YOU GO TOWARDS COUNCIL, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE THAT AND CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE NEW BOND, UH, A GOOD AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. YES. YOU CAN SEE ME I'M RIGHT. I COULDN'T GO AHEAD. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND ALSO THEIR STAFF. UM, NO, THAT'S IN QUESTION. OH, SORRY. I HEARD SOMETHING THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE TOTAL VALUATION OF THIS PROJECT. UM, JUST HAVING HAD A PROPOSAL IN 2016 FOR 86, AND THEN NOW BEING ONE OH THREE OR POTENTIALLY ONE 40, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLEAR ON, UM, WHY THIS PARTICULAR INCREASE. AND ALSO IF I CAN GET A HARD NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS BECAUSE I'M HEARING 20% AND I KNOW IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S A PORTION OF THE INCREASE. SO COULD I GET THOSE, UH, THE VALUATION, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE IT AND ALSO THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL UNITS? SURE. UH, JARED COBELL WAS STORY ABOUT, UM, SO THE, THE AFFORDABLE, UH, PORTABLE UNITS WE'RE LOOKING TO PROPOSE HERE WOULD BE, UH, IF WE WENT TO A 20%, UH, OF THE UNITS DEVELOPED OVER 86 UNITS, WE WOULD BE PROVIDING FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES, UH, AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE. AND I THINK I CLARIFIED EARLIER, UH, THAT IT WOULD BE FOR SALE. AND SO RIGHT NOW, WE, AGAIN, WE'RE PROPOSING 103 UNITS. AND SO TECHNICALLY 103 MINUS 86 YIELDS A, UH, I BELIEVE IT ACTUALLY PUTS US AT 3.4. SO YOU WOULD TECHNICALLY, WE WOULD NEED TO ROUND UP TO HIT THAT, UH, FOUR UNIT THRESHOLD, WHICH I THINK WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE DOING. UM, AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NECESSARILY THE VALUATION, BUT THE INCREASE IN UNITS FROM THE 86 IS REALLY JUST A MATTER OF ANALYZING THE PROJECT FROM, FROM A CLUSTERED HOME SITUATION. SO WHEN YOU'RE ABLE TO, UH, NOT CREATE THIS ADDITIONAL RIGHT [01:45:01] OF WAY, OR THE FEE SIMPLE, LOTS AS DICTATED, UH, BY THE INFILL TOOL, WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THE HOMES IN A CERTAIN AREA AND MOVE THE STREETS AND A CERTAIN AREA THAT ALLOWS FOR, FOR MORE DENSITY. AND SO THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE WHAT IT YIELDS. I MEAN, YOU COULD SURE YOU COULD, UH, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, DO A 140 UNITS, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE, BUT IT JUST INHERENTLY HAPPENED. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE FELT CREATED A MUCH MORE CONNECTED, UM, UH, SITE PLAN, UH, THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I ALSO HAD A QUESTION FOR MS. SHAVEN, UM, IF THE, DOES THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT YOU STEM OKAY. UM, IS 1907. WEAVERVILLE IDENTIFIED AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND PHIL'S SITE THIS, IT, IT IS PERMITTED ON THIS SITE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROPERTY WAS IDENTIFIED OR I KNOW IT IS PERMITTED ON THAT SITE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN? I THINK I DON'T HAVE IT ON HAND. SURE. JARED COVELLO STORY, BUT IF I COULD QUICKLY TOUCH ON THAT. SO, UM, IF YOU GO NORTH OF 1907 WEAVERVILLE AND WE'D LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONE 83 TANNEHILL AND JUST SOUTH OF MLK, UM, THAT IS A VERY LARGE, UH, COMMERCIALLY ZONE PROJECT, UH, THAT ALSO CARRIED, UH, THE SAME RESIDENTIAL, UH, URBAN INFILL TOOL. UH, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHEN, WHEN THIS WAS CREATED, IT WAS CREATED ON A NUMBER OF PARCELS, UH, WITHIN THIS, UH, DIRECT REGION, UH, ALL ALLOWING A VARIETY OF, UH, OF USES. SO OUR PARTICULAR SITE WAS HEAVY ON SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL. IT DOES ALLOW A SMALL PORTION OF MULTIFAMILY, AND IT DOES ALLOW A SMALL PORTION OF COMMERCIAL. UH, BUT IF WE LOOK TO AGAIN, TO THE EAST, TO THE NORTHEAST, THAT IS, UH, BASED ON MY RESEARCH, UH, MORE OF THE CITY CENTER, UH, SECTIONS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BASED ON THEIR LOCATION TO THE MAJOR CORRIDOR OF ONE 83. OKAY. DOES THAT, UH, DOES THAT MEAN THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS IDENTIFIED AS AN INFILL CENTER? OR, OR DO YOU NOT KNOW? I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT ANSWER. ALL I KNOW IS THAT THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A, AS THE RESIDENTIAL URBAN INFILL SECTION, UH, TRYING TO GEAR THIS MORE TOWARDS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, NOT MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL USES. OKAY. I, IF SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'LL PASS ON THE REST OF MY TIME. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TIME FOR AN ANSWER, UM, PLANNING. UM, I'M, I'M GOING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS. WHAT I HAVE AVAILABLE TO ME RIGHT NOW IS THE BASIC MLK NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND THEN I HAVE THE INFO TOOLS. THEY JUST DESCRIBE WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS OPTED INTO WHICH ONES I DON'T HAVE THE PARCEL BY PARCEL INFORMATION. I HAVE ENOUGH, I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT, BUT I'LL KEEP LOOKING. OKAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THIS IS, WE'RE SAYING HOG PEN, BUT THIS IS ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO STONE GATE. AND I WASN'T ENTIRELY CLEAR. IT SOUNDS LIKE HOG PEN IS ONLY REPRESENTS PART OF THE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT 600 FEET PER STONE GATE CASES. YEAH. THAT SAME DAY AS TIME CHAIR. I JUST WANT TO FIND THE ANSWER TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD. I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT, UH, WHEREVER VILLE ROAD RIGHT THERE, LYNN ROAD, UM, AND THEN GOES UP TO MLK. THAT IS A ASM P TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY NETWORK STREET. THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT, JUST TO CLARIFY. OKAY. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, UH, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, JUST CAUSE I THINK IT'S RELEVANT, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY TO THIS, BUT THE CASE IS MOVING FORWARD FOR THE COMMISSION. I'VE BEEN HEARING ANECDOTALLY THAT SINCE, UH, THE SHOCK CLOCK BILL PASSED THAT, UM, SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN GETTING A LOT MORE ARDUOUS WITH THE CITY, UH, THAT THEY'RE NOT, [01:50:01] UH, ACCEPTING THEM UNTIL THEY'RE COMPLETE BECAUSE UNDERSTANDABLY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE TIME TO REVIEW IT IS, UM, IS ANY OF THIS CALCULUS TO SWITCH FROM A SUBDIVIDED PLAN TO AN SF SIX PLAN DUE TO THE CHANGE IN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES FOR, FOR SUBDIVISION? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UH, REALLY SHORTCUT BILL, UH, IS A, IS A GREAT TOOL FOR, FOR SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALLER STUFF EFFICIENT. HOWEVER, WHEN IT IS PIECEMEAL IN A PARCEL LIKE THIS, WHERE ONE QUARTER OF THE SITE IS PUBLIC AND THE OTHER 75% IS PRIVATE AND THE DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, CAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN, A SUBDIVISION PLAN TO PLATT, AND IT'S SOME DIVISION CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT. UH, OUR THOUGHTS ARE WE NEED TO DO OUR BEST TO REMOVE THE SIX APPLICATIONS AND THE TIME THAT COMES WITH THAT AND CONSOLIDATE IT INTO ONE SINGLE PROJECT, UH, STILL, IT WILL BE MUCH EASIER FOR STAFF TO FOLLOW AND TO REVIEW. SO YOU THINK, UM, AT LEAST MAYBE FROM THE WAY THAT Y'ALL ARE APPROACHING THINGS THAT, UH, FOR THESE STILL SINGLE FAMILY TYPE, BUT, UM, AND EVEN DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY TYPE, BUT MORE, UH, KIND OF COMPLEX SITES THAT HAVE SOME ROADWAYS INVOLVED THAT, UH, AT LEAST MAYBE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE TAKING MORE OF A REZONING THAN A SUBDIVISION APPROACH AT LEAST MORE SO THAN WE USED TO. YEAH, I THINK SO. I MEAN, IT, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST BEEN KIND OF, PART OF OUR COMPANY MOTTO IS TO, IS TO TRY TO CLUSTER HOMES, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO WEATHER THE INCREASE DENSITY. UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, THAT'S A PERK AND SOME PARTS OF THE, OF THE CITY, BUT THE MORE THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK AROUND NOT PROVIDING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE OR MORE OF A BURDEN TYPE, UH, SUBDIVISION IN URBAN AUSTIN, WE WOULD, UH, RATHER STRAY AWAY FROM THAT IF WE CAN'T. SO THAT'S INTERESTING. AND IS THAT BECAUSE THE LIKE, UM, RIGHT AWAY AND CURB TO CURB SPACE, UH, FOR LIKE AN SF SIX LANE IS JUST NOT, WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN, THAN WHAT A, UH, UH, WHAT DOES THAT, THAT'S LIKE A LEVEL ONE, LIKE CITY OF AUSTIN STREET, IF YOU WERE DOING LIKE A SENSORY SUBDIVISION THAT'S RIGHT. SO AT THE THREE 50 FOOT MINIMUM, RIGHT OF WAY, AND ON AN S AND, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, UH, ON AN SF THICK, UH, WE CAN REDUCE THE ROADWAY WITH TWO, YOU KNOW, 24 FOOT, UH, TWO LANE DIRECTION. NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES, UH, DUE TO THE, UH, UH, I'M BLANKING ON THE, UH, ON THE PART OF THE CODE THAT IF IT'S OVER SIX ACRES, UH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES. BUT WHEN WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UH, OFTEN ENERGY EASEMENT, THEY REQUIRE A PLACEMENT, UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES. IT REALLY DOES START TO, TO PUSH THE SETBACK WITH THE HOMES, UH, FURTHER OUT AND INCREASE THE PAVEMENT THAT'S REQUIRED, UH, TO FEED THOSE UNIT. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. CAN I, I JUST THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING, OR ACTUALLY YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT MORE OF, ARE THESE A SF SIX REZONINGS FOR THESE LARGER SITES? UM, JUST, JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS IS GETTING PRETTY WILD AND THEN IT'S ALSO SO DIVERSE TO KEEP IN MIND OR FOR YOU TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE, BEFORE TO A TRAFFIC CRITERIA MANUAL AND, YOU KNOW, DO OUR, OUR LEVEL ONE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS REALLY NEED TO BE 50 FEET WIDE, YOU KNOW, UM, IS HAVING A PRIVATE DRIVE, SHOULD IT BE HALF THE WIDTH OF, OF A, OF A PUBLIC STREET? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WELL WE'RE HEARING, YOU KNOW, WITH UTILITY PLACEMENT, THEN THE SETBACKS, I MEAN, 25 FOOT SETBACK, BUT THEN A 10 FOOT UTILITY SETBACK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING 35 FEET FROM A CURB OF A 50 FOOT WIDE STREETS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING 120 FEET BETWEEN HOMES, UM, THERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT OF LAND. UH, SO SOMEONE KEEP IN MIND FOR FUTURE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STUFF AND FUTURE CRITERIA, MANUAL STUFF. AND I THINK Y'ALL ARE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE ASSISTS. SO IT'S JUST INTERESTING. OKAY. UH, ANYBODY ELSE? RIGHT? UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE? MAKE SURE IS OUR GO AHEAD, TRAVEL, MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IT WAS SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY. I'M SURE IT'S ALREADY WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION. UM, I THINK, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS STAGE RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THERE ARE ONE, I THINK THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE BIOGRAPHY AND SORT OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE SITES. AND I THINK WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED IN THE REDONE SITE PLAN ACTUALLY RESPONDS BETTER [01:55:01] TO BOTH THE BIOGRAPHY, TO THE ENVIRONMENT. ALSO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MAKING COMMITMENTS TOWARDS DEDICATING TO FARM SPACE, PARKLAND DEDICATION. I'M ALSO, I THINK, HEARING FROM THEM THAT THEY WOULD WANDER THE COMMAND OR UNDERSTAND AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD DO WITH 20% FOR ABILITY REQUIREMENT, AS LONG AS WE DO NOT PLACE A CEO ON THIS. SO I THINK MOVING AHEAD WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY GET SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS WHILE ALSO ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY ESSENTIALLY RESPONDS TO THE SITE ITSELF AND IS BETTER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE. DID THEY, OR WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING OTHERWISE, I SHOULD SAY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, CAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. CAN I OFFER A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? OH YES, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. UM, THANK YOU. UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE PROFILE PROPOSAL, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, LIMITING TO 86 UNITS AND, UM, HONOR THE FACT THAT THIS WAS, UH, PROPOSED AND APPROVED IN 2016, THAT THERE WAS LIMITED COMMUNITY INPUT AT THE TIME THAT THERE ARE VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS COMING INTO THIS AREA. UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE PRECEDENT THAT WE SEND SET. UM, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE SPIKING THE VALUATION CONSIDERABLY WITH THIS KIND OF INCREASE, UM, SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT THAT'S MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEEGER COMMISSIONER, AGAIN, AS SCOOTER, YOU ALREADY SPOKE A LITTLE BIT TO IT, BUT YOU WANT TO SPEAK ANY FURTHER? YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'LL JUST WRAP UP BY SAYING THAT, UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS, UM, IF WE RE WE, WE NEED TO HONOR TO AN EXTENT THE, THE INTENTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY PLANNING THAT HAS GONE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. AND I THINK THAT WE, I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO JUST BE THROWING TERMS LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD URBAN CENTER AND INFILL AROUND WITH ACTUALLY LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE AT THAT PROPERTY AND, UM, AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND, UH, THE IMPACT, I THINK 86 IS A HUGE NUMBER OF UNITS. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A LARGE SITE. UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER MORE CREATIVE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO GET US AFFORDABILITY THAN NECESSARILY, UM, ALLOWING EVEN MORE INTENSITY. SO, UM, YEAH, AND I, I, I DID I SAY HEIGHT, SORRY. I WANTED TO, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, AND THEN JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER SEEGER UNDERSTOOD THE, UM, 35 FEET. THANK YOU. 35 FEET HEIGHT. YES. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S UP SIX IS THREE. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, CHRISTMAS WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST GERALD ANDERSON. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE FINAL PRODUCT IN THE PRICE OF IT, THAT'S KIND OF THE BIGGEST THING THAT MATTERS HERE IN THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS, THIS AMENDMENT, UM, HOWEVER WELL INTENTIONED, I FEEL HAS THE EFFECT OF SIMPLY DRIVING UP THE END RESULT OF EACH AND EVERY UNIT THAT GETS SOLD HERE AND CUTS THE NUMBER OF INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON THIS SITE. UM, TO SAY EIGHT TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE IS A BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HEAVILY DENSE. LIKE THAT'S JUST NOT REALITY IN ANY WAY. SO, UM, I JUST CAN'T GET THIS IMPORTANT. THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE SPEAKING OF FAVOR. SURE. SHALL GO AHEAD. WELL, THEY'RE VOTING ON THIS AT THREE DEATHS OF SIX, UH, AND JUST, I KNOW THEY'RE WITH A, BUT IF THEY DO WANT TO KEEP THE INFILL TOOL, WE ARE NOT APPROVING THIS LAYOUT AT THIS TIME. IT'S JUST THE REZONING, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, I WILL, UM, SPEAK IN FAVOR. I THINK, UM, IF THEY DO CHANGE THE LAYOUT, UH, THEY WANT TO USE THIS INFILL TOOL. WE'LL SEE THAT LAYOUT AGAIN. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, IT'S A, I'D SAY LOT THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED OR NOT DISPLAY SEE ANYONE. SO I THINK WE REALLY DO WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE UNITS IN THIS AREA AND TRY TO GET MORE HOUSING, UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, SINCE THERE ARE NO, WE'RE NOT DISPLACING ANYBODY FROM THIS PROPERTY, BUT THANK YOU. OKAY, PATRICIA, UH, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS, IS TO PLACE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY UPON THE REZONING REQUEST TO CAP THE NUMBER OF UNITS AT 86. I BELIEVE I HAVE THAT CORRECT. I CORRECT. I'M NOT, I'M SORRY. I'M BEING, I'M DISTRACTING MYSELF. I'M NOT A, YEAH. I WILL RETRACT THAT SUPPORT AND WAIT FOR MY TURN. THANK YOU. GOTCHA. OKAY. UH, CAUSE FOR SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, SUBSTITUTE [02:00:01] COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE, UM, I'LL SPEAK AGAINST IT. UH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS A GREENFIELD SITE. UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THING IS, IS JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'S MORE INTENSE REALLY ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, UM, UH, ABOUT THE PROPOSED LAYOUT, UH, THAN THE 86 A UNIT LAYOUT, OR, UH, I'M SORRY. UM, THIS SUBSTITUTE VERSUS THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WOULD BE 106 IS, IS, YOU KNOW, A SLIGHTLY TIGHTER CLUSTERING OF HOMES. AND THEY'RE ALL STILL, YOU KNOW, THREE STORY, TWO TO THREE STORY, UH, DETACHED HOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THAT IT'S GREENFIELD AND THAT, AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE TABLE THAT, UH, THAT THERE IS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY WITH IT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A HOUSING CRISIS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAUGHT NPR THIS MORNING, KATIE THIS MORNING, UH, DID A PIECE ON HOW, UM, JUST, JUST THE TEMPORARY FLUCTUATIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN DURING THE PANDEMIC WITH A REDUCTION IN THE AVAILABLE INVENTORY, UH, HAS CAUSED, UM, THE OWNERSHIP UNITS AND, AND THESE KINDS OF HOMES TO SPIKE. AND, UH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING WORSE, UH, HERE DURING PANDEMIC. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THESE KINDS OF POEMS AND, AND THAT'S FINE. AND, AND I THINK, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT DISPLACING ANYBODY. SO, UH, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY, I THINK WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE CONTACT TEAM OPPOSING THIS, IT'S, IT'S A NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IT ALMOST SEEMS TO BE LIKE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR REASONS TO NOT APPROVE THINGS WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ABSENT A GOOD REASON, YOU KNOW, I I'M BIASED TOWARDS MORE HOUSING. SO, UM, SO I'LL, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST, UM, FINAL QUESTIONERS SPEAKING IN FAVOR. OKAY. THAT'S UM, THAT'S THREE AND THAT'S ALL SPOT. UM, SO, UH, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE TABLE, UH, IS FOR A, YES TO THE SSX REZONING, BUT WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR 86 UNITS, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ENTIRETY OF THE MOTION. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? WHAT'S YOUR GUYS' FOOD? I CAN'T SEE THAT CSE YOU'RE NODDING. OKAY. OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. WHAT'S YOUR GUYS' FOOD. ARE YOU VOTING IN FAVOR? SORRY, I CAN'T SEE THAT. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. SO TWO AND, UH, ALL OPPOSED TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10. UM, SO TWO TO 10. SO THAT SUBSTITUTE FAILS. WE'RE BACK TO THE BASE MOTION, WHICH IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. I THINK WE ALREADY HAD ONE SPEAKER IN FAVOR, UM, AND NON AGAINST, UM, ARE THERE OTHER CHRISTIANS WHO WISH TO SPEAK AGAINST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION MOTION MEASURES? WE WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, MR. SHAY, GO AHEAD. SO I WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I MEAN, COUPLE THINGS, WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE SSX SHOULD GO, I MEAN, THIS IS RIGHT HERE ON A SSMP TRANSPORTATION PARTY NETWORK WITH A BUS STOP ON IT. IT'S TAKES ACCESS FROM THESE TYPE OF STREETS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR IT. IT, UH, VERY LITTLE DISPLACEMENT, IT'S A COMPLEX SITE. UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF INNOVATIVE THINKING ON HOW TO DEVELOP ON IT, YOU KNOW, AND S OF SIX OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. BUT I MEAN, THIS IS 2020. WHY WE, YOU KNOW, USING THOSE OLD WAYS OF PLANNING, THE BIG WIDE CITY STREETS, I MEAN, WHAT ABOUT GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE? WHAT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE INNOVATION GUYS? WE GOT TO START DESIGNING SMARTER, RIGHT. AND NOT WORKING HARDER. SO, UM, AS OF SIX, I THINK IS A GOOD TOOL FOR THIS. I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SMALL BUMP IN DENSITY WITH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE AFFORDABLE UNITS. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT PLACE. UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD TOOL AND THIS PLACE, UH, IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO USE, USE THE TOOL. AND I THINK, UM, WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THAT WORK. AND SO THAT'S ONE FISHER SPEAKING AGAINST GUNS JUST VERY BRIEFLY. AND JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE DESIRE TO PUT, TO MAXIMIZE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS SITE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THOSE BENEFITS AROUND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, ACTUALLY HARD COMMITMENTS MADE TO THEM AND, AND DISCUSSED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. CAUSE WHAT I'VE HEARD IS NOT NECESSARILY ORGANIZED OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORS, BUT JUST THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, OTHER QUESTIONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, JUST FYI THAT'S GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN SF SIX SITE WOULD BE IN THE NEW CODE. SO ONCE WE GET THAT ADOPTED, WELL, WE'LL SEE THAT [02:05:01] IN THERE. UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. UH, THE MOTION IS, UH, FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ALL IN FAVOR, ONE FOR 10 I'LL OPPOSE ONE I'LL ABSTAINING TO OPPOSE TO A POST. OKAY, GREAT. SO 10 TO TWO THAT CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. SO THE NEXT ITEM [B.6 Rezoning: C14-2020-0067 - 3504 S. 1st Street Rezoning; District 3] IS B SIX, UH, COMMISSIONER CAUSEY AND MYSELF, UH, ARE RECUSING FROM THAT COMMISSIONER SHADY. YOU HAVE THE SPEAKER LIST THAT I SENT YOU? UH, YES I DO. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM P SIX, UH, AND I THINK THE STAFF IS, UH, MS. KATE CLARK, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE THE ITEM. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. I'M KATE CLARK WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER SIX ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX SEVEN. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 35 OH FOUR SOUTH FIRST STREET, AND THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 0.84 ACRES IN SIZE ADJACENT TO THE NORTH IS ATTRACT THE CSV ACROSS SOUTH FIRST STREET IS TO THE EAST ATTRACTS ZONED M THREE AND P AND L R C O M P ADJACENT TO THE SOUTH IS THE TRACK SOUND AND THAT'S THREE. AND TO THE WEST IS SF THREE ZONING, THIS PROPERTY SUBJECT TO AN EXISTING ORDINANCE, WHICH LIMITS THE NUMBER OF TRIPS PER DAY CATCH DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY TO 40 FEET IN HEIGHT AND PROHIBITS A SET OF LAND USES. APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO MOVE THE TRIPS, LIMITATIONS AND BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, BUT CARRY OVER THE EXISTING LIST OF PROHIBITED USES, WHICH WERE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO READ THEM, TO SEE S M U V C O. THIS PROPERTY IS IN BETWEEN EXISTING CSV AND SOUNDTRACKS. IT IS ALSO LOCATED ON A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR AS DEFINED BY THE CURRENT LDC. THESE CORRIDORS ARE ROAD RACE THAT HAS THE WILL HAVE SUFFICIENT POPULATION DENSITY MIX OF USES AND TRANSIT FACILITIES TO ENCOURAGE AND SUPPORT TRANSIT USE BECAUSE OF THESE PARAMETERS. THEY WERE ALSO USED TO ESTABLISH WHERE THE VERTICAL MIX OVER THE DISTRICT IS PERMITTED REZONING. THIS PROPERTY TO SEE US AND UVC O WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING LAND USE PATTERN. THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE DISTRICT SOUGHT AND AID IN THE LAND USE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. AND I'M HERE. IF YOU HAVE A, IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, MS. CLARK. WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP NEXT. UH, UH, LOOKS LIKE IT'S MR. MR. RICHARD SUTTLE. WELCOME. HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH, WE SURE CAN. GREAT. THIS IS RICHARD SUTTLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. I'LL I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF. CAUSE I THINK IT'S A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CASE. WE'VE GOT THIS SITE ON SOUTH FIRST THAT WE WANT TO JOIN WITH THE SITE NEXT DOOR THAT ALREADY HAS THE CS MUV CEO ON IT. WE WANT TO ELIMINATE THE 40 FOOT AND THE 2000 TRIP LIMITATION SO WE CAN JOIN THE SITE TOGETHER TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING AND THAT, UH, AND UTILIZING THE V WE'LL HAVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT ON IT. AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S ON A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN ADD OTHER THAN WHAT THE STAFF SAID. I'VE, I'VE GOT A, UH, PRESENTATION TEED UP THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IF YOU'D LIKE, OR I CAN JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS AND, UH, DURING REBUTTAL IT'S, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. UM, MR. SUTTLE. SO HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION? I CAN MAKE IT AS SHORT AS YOU'D LIKE, I CAN MAKE IT TWO MINUTES. OKAY. LET'S GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES. UM, AND THEN AT LEAST THEY GIVE US A TASTE OF IT AND THEN COMMISSIONERS CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY KIND OF GET THROUGH IT AND GIVE US AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. GOT IT. THIS IS A MAP HERE JUST SHOWING, CLARIFYING THE SITE AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE NEXT DOOR THAT WE'D ALSO BE USING NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. THERE MUST BE A DELAY ON WHAT I'M WATCHING AND WHAT'S MOVING. CAUSE YEAH, WE SEE IT. WE SEE THE THREE ORANGE BOXES. OKAY. OKAY. I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE IT AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT UM, YEAH, WE SEE THE THREE SIDES IN ORANGE BOXES. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? OKAY. WE'LL SEE THE PLAN. OKAY. WHAT'D YOU, WHAT YOU CAN TELL PROBABLY BY THAT PLAN IS IT JOINS THE, THE SIDE ON CARDINAL AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET WOULD BE THE PARKLAND THAT WE'RE SHOWING. AND NEXT SLIDE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK CAUSE IT'S SO DELAYED. ANYWAY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES AT YOUR PACE REALLY QUICK? AND THEN [02:10:01] WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE HOUSING WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH FIRST ON THE SMALL SIDE THAT WE'RE REZONING PLUS THE BIG SITE, THE PARKLAND THAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS ACROSS THE STREET THERE. I'M DONE. WE'RE LOOKING AT A CROSS SECTION RIGHT NOW, SECTION THROUGH THE SITE. OKAY. OKAY. AND WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER IS THE PART THAT MEETS COMPATIBILITY THAT WOULD BACK UP TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE IN THE BACK. OKAY. NOW WE SEE TREES. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ARBORIST ON THE TREES TO SAVE AS MANY OF THE TREES AS WE CAN, WHICH WILL INCLUDE TRANSPLANTING SOME OF THEM. AND WE'VE GOT, UH, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ARBOR CITY ARBORIST ON HOW TO DO ALL THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I THINK WE HAVE REACHED THE END. OKAY. ALRIGHT. REACHED THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SO LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER SIGNED UP, UH, FOR, UM, MS. JOEL'S STAR SIX. YOU CAN POP ON I'M ON THE LINE, BUT I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION. IS THERE A PRIMARY SPEAKER FOR THOSE OPPOSE? IS IT MR. MARSHALL DAVIS? MARSHALL DAVIS. MR. RIVERA? YES. SO IF YOU'LL GO DOWN THE LIST, IT'S AN ORDER. OKAY. IT IS. OKAY. SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MR. MARSHALL DAVIS. YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I AM MARSHALL DAVIS, PRESIDENT OF GLENDO ELEMENTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME. THIS EVENING, I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS AND HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THE FEEL OF THIS LITTLE GYM IN THE CROWN OF SOUTH AUSTIN. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE REPRESENTATIVES OF SLATE, REAL ESTATE GROUP AND ARMBRUSTER AND BROWN FOR THEIR AVAILABILITY AND REACHING OUT TO US TO MEET WITH US AND EXPLAIN THEIR PROPOSED PROJECT TO BOTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. AND ALSO THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL ZOOM MEETINGS WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ANSWER NEIGHBORS QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A LITTLE ZONING HISTORY FOR 3,504 SOUTH FIRST. IF MR. RIVERA, YOU COULD SHOW US PAGE SIX. AND AS MR SUBTLER SAID, THERE'S A VIDEO DELAY. SO IF Y'ALL HAVE A ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS FROM 2007, THIS WAS TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY FROM SF THREE TO CS, WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN APRIL OF 2007 LIMITED THE DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS TO LESS THAN 2000 TRIPS PER DAY, AND LIMITED THE HEIGHT TO A MAXIMUM OF 40 FEET. THE TIA WAS WAVED AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THE APPLICANT AGREED TO LIMIT THE DENSITY AND USES FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO THE BASIS FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION INCLUDED A CONDITION TO LIMIT HEIGHTS AND TRIPS PER DAY IN 2007. AND FINALLY IT CATCHING UP TO MY COMPUTER SCREEN. NO, IT'S NOT NOW WE'RE GETTING THERE. UM, SO IF WE CAN NOW GO TO PAGE 18 AND WHAT WE SENT MR. RIVERA, THERE'S A 2008 ORDINANCE THAT ADDS THE VERTICAL MIXED USE COMPONENT AREA TO THE ZONING PAGE. 19 SHOWS THAT IN THE REZONING, ALL THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS IN THAT AREA WERE MAINTAINED WITH ONLY THE V VERTICAL COMPONENT ADDED. SO ALL THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ALREADY ON THOSE PROPERTIES WERE MAINTAINED BY THE ORDINANCE PAST JANUARY 10TH, 2008, EXCUSE ME. IN FEBRUARY OF 2008, UH, TRAMMELL CROW APPROACH US. THEY WERE INTERESTED IN BUILDING APARTMENTS WITH A MULTILEVEL PARKING GARAGE ON THE PARCELS WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING AFTER MEETING WITH THEM AND UNDERSTANDING THEIR PROJECT PLANS. WE HAD THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS IN 2008 PROJECT DENSITY WAS A MAJOR CONCERN THEY HAD, THEY HAD, WE'RE HOPING TO PUT IN 160 280 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. WE FELT THE ONE 60 TO ONE 80 WAS TOO DENSE. THE CURRENT APPLICANT IS ASKING BETWEEN 275 AND 320 UNITS ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY. UH, IN 2008, WE EXPRESSED THE TRAMMELL CROW. WE HAD CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC FLOW. WE FELT THEIR PROJECT THEN [02:15:01] WOULD CAUSE A DANGEROUS CONDITION AT THE CORNER OF CARDINAL LANE AND SOUTH FIRST. AND WHAT ALSO CAUSED COMMUTER CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC THROUGH THE CORE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO MAKE A LEFT ONTO SOUTH FIRST, THEY'RE GOING TO GO DOWN SOUTH FIFTH STREET, RIGHT THROUGH THE CORE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ALREADY PRETTY CONGESTED DURING RUSH HOUR TIMES. SO THE ZONING HISTORY FOR THIS PROPERLY CLEARLY SHOWS, THERE WAS A LONG PRECEDENT THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO PROTECT THIS SITE FROM OVERDEVELOPMENT, AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE CALLED THE SLIVER OF LAND. IT IS AT THE CREST OF THE HILL ON SOUTH FIRST. SO PART OF THE REASON FOR THE 40 FOOT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY HEIGHT REQUIREMENT IS TO KEEP SOMETHING FROM TOWERING FAR ABOVE ANYTHING ELSE AROUND IT, BECAUSE THAT 40 FOOT IS FOR THE CREST OF THE HILL ON SOUTH FIRST STREET, SINCE 2002, BETWEEN SINCE 2007 TO 2008, AUSTIN IS EXPONENTIALLY GROWN COMMISSIONER. KENNY SAID EARLY THIS EVENING, WE'RE IN A BIG CITY. THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES IN THE LAST 13 YEARS, THAT WOULD MAKE A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH MULTILEVEL PARKING GARAGE, A GOOD FIT FOR THAT PROPERTY. IN REALITY, THE GROWTH OF AUSTIN AND THE GROWTH OF THE IMMEDIATE AREA AROUND THIS PROPERTY MAKES A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. NOW, EVEN A WORSE FIT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES HAVE MET WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPERS TOO, SO THEY COULD EXPLAIN THEIR PLANS AFTER THESE MEETINGS AND SUBSEQUENT DISCUSSIONS, BOTH THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY, OPPOSED TO THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD REMOVE THE TRIP LIMIT AND HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION AND MR. RIVERA AND ALL PARTIES INVOLVED FOR INCLUDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. DAVIS. I LIKE TO, UH, INVITE NEXT MS. MONICA GUERRERO, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT FOR ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE JOINING US TODAY, PLEASE STAY ON THE LINE BECAUSE A COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GIVE MONICA GUERRERO, WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES. WELCOME. HELLO, THIS IS MONICA GUERRERO. I AM THE ZONING CHAIR FOR GINA, AND JUST ALSO SO HAPPENS TO LIVE AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THIS REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE AT SEVEN OH SEVEN CARDINAL LANE. UM, SINCE 2014, UH, THERE WILL, YOU'LL HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS THIS EVENING AS WELL. UM, JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON, UM, MARSHALL'S INTRO, UM, AND DIGGING A LITTLE DEEPER INTO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE COME ACROSS AS GETTING IN WITH GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO IN LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOWING IT INTIMATELY. UM, THE, ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES, UM, TO START IS, UM, IF YOU CAN PULL UP PLEASE PAGE, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S 19 OF OUR PRESENTATION, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON TO PAGE 26, PLEASE. UM, AND IT'S WITHOUT THE DELAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE DELAY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE, WHAT'S THE ZONING CHANGE FOCUSING ON, UM, IS A CHANGE TO THE MERCURY HALL SITE. UM, THE AERIAL VIEW OF MERCURY MERCURY HALL IS THERE ON PAGE 27. AND IF YOU CAN SCROLL THROUGH TYPE 27, 28, 29 30, JUST GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW AND A REMINDER OF WHAT MERCURY HALL IS. UM, IT'S A, UH, ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT HAS MANY HERITAGE TREES, UM, THAT WE LOVE. UM, IT'S A CANOPY OF TREES, THE BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND, UM, USED FOR WEDDING VENUES. UM, IT'S WELL KNOWN FOR, UM, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE BEAUTY, AND IT'S, IT REALLY ADDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF GALENDO, UM, THE FIVE LEVEL PARKING GARAGE, UM, AND A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE ON THIS LAND, UM, WILL ESSENTIALLY CHANGE THE LANDSCAPE AND ESSENTIALLY ALSO CHANGE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THERE WERE A FEW, ESPECIALLY FROM THE CARDINAL LANE FOLKS, AND I THINK THEY'LL GET INTO IT A LITTLE BIT LATER, UM, WITH THE, UM, REMOVING THIS PERMEABLE LAND CAN REPLACING IT WITH IMPERVIOUS COVER, REMOVE THE CANOPY OF THESE TREES, UM, WELL COULD POSSIBLY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO DIVE INTO THIS FURTHER. IT'S AN UNKNOWN QUESTION ON A DRAINAGE ISSUES, UH, CARDINAL LANE, SEVEN OH SEVEN CARDINAL LANE, AND OTHER HOMES FIT DOWNHILL FROM THIS APARTMENT. UM, [02:20:01] SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR CONCERNS AND I KNOW I HAVE JUST A FEW MORE SECONDS. I WANT TO MOVE ON TO, UM, UM, THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 30 TOWNHOMES AT CARDINAL LANE ON THREE ACRES. UM, THERE ARE, UH, NINE HOMES AND ON GOMEZ COV, UM, AND, UM, IT'S JUST NOT A COMPETITOR THAT THIS IS WAY BIGGER UNIT THAN, UM, WE PLAYED THIS. THANK YOU, MS. GUERRERO. NEXT WE HAVE MR. BRUCE NED. MY NAME IS THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS BRUCE. I, I AM TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT AS A MEMBER OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CARDINAL LANE CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY, INC. UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. UH, WE ARE LOCATED IMMEDIATELY NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S, UH, SUBJECT TO THE ZONING REQUEST. UM, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED SF SIX, I BELIEVE, UH, WHEN WE WERE REZONED, UH, IN 2005, WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS, UH, PART OF THE CEO THAT WAS IMPOSED ON IT IS, UH, 10 UNITS PER ACRE WITH A MAXIMUM 55%, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER. WE HAVE 30 UNITS ON THREE ACRES. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE THE HELP OF THE ASSISTANCE OF CITY STAFF ON THIS MATTER, WE DO OPPOSE THE REZONING, THE GINA MEMO SETS FORTH IN GREAT DETAIL. MANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AND AT A HIGH LEVEL, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN'T UNDERSTATE THE CONCERNS WE HAVE ABOUT TRAFFIC, UH, COMING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN ON SOUTH FIRST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A, I MEAN, A RIGHT TURN ON SOUTH FIRST OR A LEFT TURN ON SOUTH FIRST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND TO GET DOWNTOWN. THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER RIGHT TURN ON SOUTH CENTER. ANOTHER RIGHT TURN ON SOUTH SECOND AND EITHER A RIGHT TURN ON CARDINAL LANE. AND AGAIN, ATTEMPT A LEFT TURN ON SOUTH FIRST, OR YOU CUT DOWN SOUTH FIFTH STREET. SO WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. UM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WHOLE PANOPLY OF PRO OF CONCERNS MAKES THIS PROJECT INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LOSS OF HERITAGE TREES, THE TRAFFIC, AND WE LIVE ON THE DOWNHILL SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY AND MERCURY HALL. THIS PROPERTY SITS AT ABOUT 680 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL. THE, THE CARDINAL LANE AND THE GAMUT IS COURTS. COL-DE-SAC SIT ABOUT 20 FEET LOWER IN ELEVATION. SO WHEN YOU PUT A 60 FOOT PARKING GARAGE AT GRADE ON THAT PROPERTY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 80 FEET TALLER THAN THE, THAN THE HOMES BELOW IT. AND THAT CONCERNS US. IT CAN SUES US ABOUT RUNOFF ISSUES. UM, BERKELEY HALL IS CURRENTLY A SPONGE. WE DON'T, IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY PERMEABLE FOR RAIN. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RUNOFF FROM IT. WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT RUNOFF FROM THAT PROPERTY AND WATER DOES RENT RUN DOWN HILL AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T CATCH ALL OF IT ALL THE TIME. ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN A MASSIVE APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH LIMITED PERMEABILITY, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE 10, 20% PERMEABILITY UNDER THEIR PROPOSAL. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING AS A WHOLE, AND WE THINK THAT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD CERTAINLY ASK FOR YOU TO MAINTAIN THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON THE PROPERTY FOR THAT REASON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. NYE. NEXT WE HAD DIANA EIGHT. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. HI, UH, MY NAME IS DIANA ZACK AND I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US SPEAK. I HAVE TWO MAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THIS REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD OVER 300 NEW UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF LEGACY OAK TREES CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY IS MY FIRST ONE. A BIG PART OF MY ENJOYMENT OF LIVING HERE IS THE BEAUTIFUL TREES. THEY ARE A PART OF THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE VALUABLE PART OF AUSTIN'S URBAN FOREST. MY SECOND CONCERN IS THE IMPACT TO TRAFFIC THAT CAUSED, CAUSED BY SUCH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT. THE ADDITION OF OVER 300 UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RAISES TRAFFIC CONTROL ISSUES, NOT ONLY ON SOUTH FIRST AND CARDINAL, BUT ALSO WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NOT ALL OF OUR STREETS HAVE SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE WALK WITH FAMILY MEMBERS, INCLUDING TODDLERS AND BABIES AND STROLLERS KIDS WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SCHOOL. PEOPLE WALK TO THE BUS STOP [02:25:01] ON OLTORF SOUTH FIFTH AND SOUTH FIRST STREETS. AND PEOPLE WALK TO THE SOUTH AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD REC CENTER WOMEN WITHOUT THEIR DOGS. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALSO A VERY BIKE FRIENDLY BANNISTER GARDEN, VILLA RAY WOOD, AND SOUTH FIFTH ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL CITY BIKE ROUTES, BANISTER GARDEN FILLER AND SOUTH FIFTH ARE ALSO A SHORTCUT FOR DRIVERS AVOIDING SOUTH FIRST AND SOUTH LAMAR TRAFFIC. IT IS LIKELY THAT MANY OF THE NEW RESIDENTS WOULD ADD TO THE CONGESTION ON THOSE ROADS AS THEY SEEK TO AVOID USING SOUTH FIRST STREET, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, HEALTHY INITIATIVE, SALT INSTALLED TRAFFIC CALMING BARRIERS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THIS SUMMER UNDER COVERT CONDITIONS TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER UNDER LOW TRAFFIC CONDITIONS, WITHOUT A LARGE NEW DEVELOPMENT. THESE BARRIERS WORKED VERY WELL. AND SO I WONDER IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF SAFETY FOR WALKERS AND BIKERS IF 300 OR SO UNITS ARE ADDED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I, I KNOW THAT I'M ECHOING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, BUT I WANTED, UM, TO JUST GIVE MY VIEWPOINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT WE HAVE MR. HOWARD CURTIS, MR. CURTIS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE THAT STAR SIX TO JOIN US? WE COULD COME BACK TO MR. CURTIS. WE'LL GO TO MS. PATTY SPRINKLE. ARE YOU THERE? HI, THIS IS PATTY SPRINKLE. I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GLENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE DO HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UM, RENTAL UNITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE CENSUS OF 2000. UM, WE HAVE AT LEAST 68% OF OUR, UM, HOUSING UNITS OF 1,768 THAT ARE RENTAL UNITS. WE ALREADY HAVE A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT RENT. SO WE, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADOPTED THE VMU PROJECT, WE REALLY ARE LOOKING TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTIAL ON THE INTERIOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SELF FIRST IS A CORE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR. SO WE WERE VERY CAREFUL TO LOOK AT ALL THE SITES ALONG SELF FIRST AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT ISSUES WOULD BE DEALT WITH. AND AS MONICA MENTIONED, THREE, FIVE OH FOUR, UM, BY CITY STAFF WAS RECOMMENDED THAT IF IT WAS REZONED THAT A TIA BE DONE AND ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUPPORT OF THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY MEANS THAT THEY DO RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEMS THERE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU MY SLIDES, PAGE 31 32 AND 33, WHICH ARE PHOTOGRAPHS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME UP IN TIME, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 31, THAT CARDINAL LANE GOING TOWARDS SOUTH FIRST I'VE, I'VE MARKED OFF 30 FEET WHERE IT IS IT AUSTIN ENERGY, 27 FEET AS IT COMES UP TO, UM, SECOND STREET. AND AS YOU KEEP GOING UP THE HILL, WHEN IT INTERSECTS ITSELF, FIRST, IT IS ONLY 20 FEET AND THAT IS AN APPROXIMATION. UM, WE DID OUR BEST TO MEASURE. IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS. AND I SAID, WE MEASURED HIM SIX PICTURES. UM, IT WAS KIND OF CRAZY. YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 32, THERE'S NO TURN LANE ON SOUTH FIRST. IT'S REALLY VERY, VERY DIFFICULTY TO GO LEFT OR RIGHT. AND WE UNDERSTAND FROM SLATE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION TO STUDY HOW THEY CAN SAFELY MOVE THIS TRAFFIC IN AND OUT. BUT THAT INTERSECTION IS REALLY CHALLENGED ALREADY BECAUSE THERE'S STOPLIGHTS THAT LIGHTS THEMSELVES CENTER STREET, AND THERE'S NO TURN LANE. THERE'S NOT EVEN A BIKE LANE. UM, AND THE NARROWING OF THE STREET OF CARDINAL ITSELF, IT IS A SUBPAR STREET. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN ABLE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE HAS NOT BEEN UPGRADED. GINA HAS HISTORICALLY FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. WE'VE INSTIGATED TRAFFIC CALMING ALONG SOUTH FIFTH BECAUSE OF THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND ALONG GARDEN VILLA. WE'VE ALSO MET WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA ON SEVERAL ISSUES ALONG SELF FIRST. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME PEDESTRIAN BEACONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN TORCHY'S WAS RIGHT THERE TO GET PEOPLE SAFELY ACROSS. THERE WAS A, A VERY BAD INJURY ACCIDENT IN JUNE ON THE CORNER OF CUMBERLAND AND SOUTH FIRST PEOPLE ARE GOING VERY FAST. THE SIDEWALKS ARE SUBPAR. I KNOW WHEN A DEVELOPMENT GOES IN HERE, SOME OF THESE SIDEWALKS WILL BE CORRECTED, BUT IT IS A PIECEMEAL PROJECT. UM, I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY, IN TERMS OF THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS PROJECT, IT REALLY IS OUT OF SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE DENSITY OF THE OTHER UNITS ARE NOT THAT IN ORDER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE, WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK AND SEE IF MR. CURTIS IS ON THE LINE. MR. HARD, CURTIS, ARE YOU THERE [02:30:02] NOT, UH, MR. CHRISTOPHER JABARI, COME ON. IF HE'S THERE, WHO'S ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW. IS THERE A MR. CURTIS OR CHRISTOPHER JABBERING? IF NOT, THEN CAN WE HAVE MICHELLE MREL CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? UH, YES, WE CAN. OKAY, WONDERFUL. HELLO EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OTHERS, THIS PLATFORM TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS FOR HOW THIS PROJECT WILL AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR LIVELIHOOD. I'M MICHELLE I'M L'OREAL. AND I'M A CONCERNED OWNER OF UNIT K TWO AT CARDINAL LANE WITH MY 10 YEAR OLD SON FOR SIX YEARS, AND COUNTING SO SAFETY FOR OUR WALKERS AND BIKERS AND PRESERVING OUR TREES AND GREENERY IS AT MY UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO ME AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT I'M OPEN TO DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE MORE COMPATIBLE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS TOLD THIS AREA WAS INITIALLY ZONE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THEN MERCURY HALL, GOT IT, REZONED FOR PARKING. AND NOW THIS PROJECT WANTS TO REZONE IT AGAIN TO GO THIS FIVE STORY, PARKING GARAGE AND APARTMENT COMPLEX. I DON'T OBJECT TO THIS PROJECT. I OBJECT TO THE PLACEMENT OF THIS PROJECT FOR MANY REASONS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS A BETTER FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE MY CONCERNS. IT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA. IT HAS A BIG BLIND SPOT BECAUSE OF THE HILL WITH NO TURNING LANE. THEY HAVE SEVERAL OTHER APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON SOUTH FIRST STREET. HOWEVER, THE GROUND IS FLAT. IT'S NOT AT THE END OF A MAJOR HIGHWAY. I ASKED IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER A TRAFFIC LIGHT AND NO LIGHT WAS CONFIRMED. IN FACT, IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING. IT WOULDN'T BE APPROVED BECAUSE OF HOW CLOSE THE LIGHT IS ON CENTER STREET WITH A BLIND SPOT, EVERYONE WILL BE USING THE LIGHT ON SOUTH CENTER STREET. NOW LIKE ALREADY GETS BACKED UP DURING HIGH COMMUTE TIMES. AND WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, A SHORT DISTANCE AWAY, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS. SO I'VE EXPERIENCED HIGH TRAFFIC AT CERTAIN AREAS BEFORE COVID. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ATTEMPTING TO TAKE A LEFT TURN ON SOUTH FIRST IS VERY CHALLENGING AND DANGEROUS WITH THE BLIND SPOT AND BEING ON A HILL, THE TRAFFIC YOU'RE SEEING NOW, ISN'T TYPICAL BECAUSE OF COVID AND MOST PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON STAYING AT HOME. NUMBER TWO, THE HEIGHT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE AESTHETICS OF THIS FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE AND HOW WE'LL LOOK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH IT BEING SO CLOSE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND NUMBER THREE, THE UNKNOWNS OF THIS UNDERGROUND RETENTION POND AND ABOUT ALL THE CONCRETE THAT WILL GO DOWN TO BUILD THIS OUT IN THE EROSION. IT MAY COST OUR PROPERTY. I WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR LANDSCAPING COMPANY AND WE WERE ALREADY SEEING QUITE A BIT OF EROSION ON OUR ONE ACRE PARK AT CARDINAL LANE. AND I'M SURPRISED THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED. I'M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? AND LASTLY, OUR POSSIBLE DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUE WITH THE PROJECT BEING RENTALS? WE DEFINITELY DON'T LACK IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON SOUTH FIRST AND AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND CURRENTLY THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT. CARDINAL LANE IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. AND SO AS A COMMUNITY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM US, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SMALLER RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, SIMILAR TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OR SOME RETAIL GOING IN THAT SPACE AND KEEP A LOT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THIS AND THANK YOU FOR MY OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. I'M COMPLETE. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, MS. SAMIOL. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE MR. CURTIS BACK ON THE LINE, MR. CURTIS. UM, IF YOU'RE ON, PLEASE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UM, SHARE WITH US MR. CURTIS, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? YEAH. HIT STAR SIX. IS THAT YOU? IT WAS MR. JABARI, ACTUALLY MY PHONE WASN'T WORKING. OKAY. SO MR. GEMORRA SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY NEXT. UM, SINCE YOU'RE ON, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOU, YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN? ALL RIGHT. SURE. I APPRECIATE THE TIME. UM, ALRIGHT. WHEN I FIRST, UH, I'M A, I'M A RESIDENT AT TECH, UH, CARDINAL LANE AS WELL. AND, UH, WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF THE, UH, THE ZONING CHANGE, MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS JUST Y UM, YOU HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF PROPERTY THERE. UM, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY REASON THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WORK WITH, UH, THE CURRENT SEWING RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT ARE IN PLACE. UM, EVEN HAVING AN OWNER THAT WHEN HE DECIDED TO CLOSE MERCURY, HALL'S QUOTED AS SAYING THAT, UH, HE'S GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO FIND NEW OWNERS WHO WILL BE EXCELLENT STEWARDS FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND. I'D SAY THE ONLY TRUTH TO THAT STATEMENT AT THIS POINT, GIVEN [02:35:01] THE DEVELOPMENT I'VE SEEN IS THAT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND, UH, LOOKING TO REZONE, REDUCED EASEMENTS, CRAM AS MANY UNITS AS YOU CAN ONTO A PIECE OF PROPERTY, MORE THAN LIKELY LEASE IT UP AND FLIP IT TO THE HIGHEST BETTER, UH, GO AHEAD AND CASH THE CHECKS. AND THEN THE RESIDENTS LIKE US ARE LESS TO DEAL WITH. UH, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT I FEEL IS A MONSTROSITY, UH, NEXT DOOR TO US, UM, DON'T NEED THIS. IT'S NOT NECESSARY. UH, AND I THINK THAT THE FOCUS SHOULD REALLY BE ON, UH, THE TRAFFIC ON SOUTH FIRST, ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. I HAVE SCREENSHOTS, UM, THAT I WOULD TAKE, CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY IN THE MORNING COMMUTE TO WORK EVERY DAY. AND IT WOULD TAKE 20 TO 30 MINUTES FOR ME TO GET DOWNTOWN, UM, FROM CARDINAL LANE, UH, BE BACKED UP SOMETIMES ALL THE WAY TO TWO 19 AND MAKING A LEFT TURN OUT ON THE SOUTH FIRST FROM CARDINAL LANE IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. IF I COULD SAY THAT THERE WAS ONE MAYBE SILVER LINING TO THIS COVID CRISIS, IT WILL BE THAT I CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A LEFT TURN WITHOUT HAVING TO SLAM ON MY GAS AND THEN HOPEFULLY NOT HAVE TO SLAM ON MY BRAKE AND BLOCK ONCOMING TRAFFIC BECAUSE THERE'S A CAR SHOOTING OVER THAT HILL. THERE, WE HAVE THREE MAJOR STREETS THAT FEED DOWNTOWN INSIDE SOME OF THE HIGHWAYS, FINAL THOUGHTS WE'VE GOT SOUTH CONGRESS, SOUTH LAMAR AND SOUTH FIRST. YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS WITH BETWEEN SOUTH FIRST AND THOSE OTHER TWO STREETS? WE HAVE NO BIKE LANE. WE HAVE NO TURN LANE. WE HAVE NO BUS LANE AND OUR SIDEWALKS ARE HORRIBLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK WE HAVE MR. CURTIS BACK ON LINE. MR. CURTIS, ARE YOU THERE STAR SIX TO JOIN US? MR. CURTIS HAS BEEN ON AND OFF A LITTLE BIT AND WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY, SO WE'LL SEE IF IT POPS ON NEXT FEW SECONDS, MR. VERA, DO YOU, DO WE HAVE THEM ONLINE RIGHT NOW? IS HE STILL ON HOLD OR ONLINE? MR. CURTIS? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. WELL, I WAS, I WAS UP PUMPING IN POUND SIX. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UH, SORRY ABOUT ALL THE, UH, THE PROBLEM IS GETTING, UH, GETTING ONLINE HERE. UH, I HAVE THREE MINUTES, CORRECT? ALL THOSE SLOTS WERE TAKEN, BUT DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS LET'S CAN WE GIVE HIM HIS THREE? OKAY. YES. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. SO, UH, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT MY, UH, NEIGHBORS FROM CARDINAL CONDOS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE MENTIONED, UH, TRAFFIC DRAINAGE AND SUCH. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS CONCENTRATE ON A CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, PARTICULARLY IN THE CARDINAL CONDOMINIUMS. UH, GAMEZ COLD AS BEING THE CLOSEST PROPERTIES TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, BUT POTENTIALLY MORE BROADLY AND, UH, UH, FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME PERSONALLY, BUT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND MY OWN SITUATION BEST. AND I'M AN OWNER OF THE CARDINAL CONDOMINIUMS. I AM GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT. SO QUICK BACKGROUND, I MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 1992 TO WORK AT THE MCC RESEARCH CONSORTIUM, UH, IN NORTH AUSTIN. AND I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE I SETTLED IN NORTHWEST AUSTIN. IN 2010, I BOUGHT UNIT D TWO AT CARDINAL WITH THE INTENT OF MOVING THERE, BUT I ENDED UP BUILDING A HOUSE IN SOUTH BOSTON. SO I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LEASING UNIT D TO FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS IN NOVEMBER LAST YEAR, 2019, I MADE A DECISION TO SELL, YOU KNOW, WHICH IN RETROSPECT, I, MIGHT'VE NOT MADE GIVEN CORONA VIRUS, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AT THAT POINT. UM, MY TENANTS EXITED THE END OF FEBRUARY. I DID SOME SWEAT EQUITY WORK AND MADE SOME INVESTMENTS IN FIXING THE PLACE UP AND WENT ON THE MARKET IN EARLY MAY. UM, I'VE HAD CONSIDERABLE INTEREST, BUT NOT YET, [02:40:01] UM, AN ACCEPTABLE OFFER. WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THIS, THIS PROJECT, ABOUT A WEEK AGO, I REALIZED I MIGHT HAVE TO RETHINK THE ENTIRE ENTERPRISE IN THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UM, WHAT POTENTIAL BUYER OF A HIGH END CONDO IS GOING TO PURCHASE A PLACE, WHICH IN THE CASE OF FRONTS ON MERCURY HALL AND US ON A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT FOR THE NEXT 2.5 YEARS, LET'S SAY SO I THINK I WILL HAVE TO, UM, REVERT TO TRYING TO LEASE THE UNIT. THIS IS INCONVENIENT FOR ME IN THAT, UM, I'M 67 YEARS OLD AND SELLING D TWO WAS PART OF MY, UM, MY SORT OF LONGTERM RETIREMENT PLAN. BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, WHEN WE GET BEYOND THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, ASSUMING, UM, THIS PROJECT WERE TO GO FORWARD, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IMPACTS ON PROPERTY VALUES AS THE CARDINAL CONDO SQUARE IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REAL QUICK. MY CONCERNS ARE DIMINISHED PRIVACY, INCREASED NOISE, THE LARGE BLOOMING STRUCTURES THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED BY OTHERS AND ESPECIALLY DRAINAGE, UM, WITHIN PERVIOUS COVER. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED EXTREMELY CAREFULLY. OKAY. ALL ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU, MR. CURTIS. ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR A RED BOTTLE. CAN YOU HEAR ME CAN, HI, IT'S RICHARD SETTLE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. AGAIN, MOST OF THE COMMENTS, WELL, FIRST I WANT TO, I WANTED TO THANK THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND THEIR, THEIR, THE WAY THEY HANDLED OUR NEGOTIATIONS. IT'S, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE. I'VE NOT BEEN ON THE CALLS WITH THEM, BUT, UH, I KNOW THEY'VE JUST BEEN VERY PROFESSIONAL AND VERY COURTEOUS. THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ISOLATED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE STAN LOT. WHAT I'LL CALL THE SLIVER IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF MERCURY HALL. AND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THAT ZONING CONSISTENT WITH MERCURY HALL'S ZONING, THE ITEMS LIKE SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, TRAFFIC, TREES, COMPATIBILITY. THERE THEY'RE ALL DEALT WITH AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A SITE PLAN YET, BUT THEY WILL ALL BE, UH, CERTAINLY REVIEWED THE SLIVER PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT ON THE ZONING CASE IS CURRENTLY A PARKING LOT FOR MERCURY HALL. I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT, THAT THIS, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE NEW CODE WOULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE PROVIDED. IT WILL ALLOW FOR MORE HOUSING. UM, IT SITS ON A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR ROAD THAT'S DEFINED IN THE ASAP, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TRANSIT STOPS. UM, IF THE, IF THE MAP, THE CAP METRO MAP IS CORRECT, UH, WE HAVE NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC OR TRANSIT STOPS, UH, AT, OR VERY NEAR THE PROJECT. SO WITH THAT, I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE. I'LL STOP AND THEN BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT HOPE, HOPE THAT YOU'LL SUPPORT, UM, THIS, UH, STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CASE OR APPEAR APPARENTLY IS STRAIGHTFORWARD ZONING CASE SO THAT WE CAN MERGE IT WITH THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR AND PROVIDE MORE HOUSING. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, MR. SUTTLE. UH, I THINK THAT'S IT ON THE LIST OF SPEAKERS, UM, UNLESS MR. RIVERA, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, BUT THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY LIST. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, DO I HAVE SECOND IS MISS MATURA CZAR. OKAY. WOULD THAT, UH, EVERYBODY, UM, THINK ABOUT THOSE PUBLIC HEARING, RAISE YOUR GREEN, ALL THOSE OPPOSE THEN. UH, I GUESS WE HAVE WHAT? 11, 10. CAUSE WE HAVE TWO GONE, SO ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, UH, WE'LL TAKE ROUND OF QUESTIONS, STARTING WITH THE BROWN ROBIN. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH QUESTIONS STARTING? DON'T SEE ANYBODY YET. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SHAW. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FROM US IN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HERE TODAY? THIS IS KATE CLARK. I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO. [02:45:02] OKAY. I WILL GIVE UP FOR NOW. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. MR. SEEGER. YES. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. HOW MANY UNITS ARE YOU PROPOSING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL IN THE SITE PLAN, UM, PHASE. SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT IT COULD BE BETWEEN 303 65, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND WHAT IS YOUR PROJECTED HEIGHT RIGHT NOW? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SOME AREAS. IT WOULD BE AS TALL AS 60 FEET. THEY WOULD BE SET BACK FROM, BY COMPATIBILITY AND SCREENED BY THE TREES, BUT WE COULD GO AS HIGH AS 60 FEET, 60 PAGE. AND, UH, TELL ME ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. ARE YOU APPLYING FOR IT? YES, WE'LL BE APPLYING THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THE V, WHICH REQUIRES PERCENT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. NEXT UP. YOU'RE ON MUTE. I THINK I HAVE A, I THINK THIS IS FOR STAFF. I'M TRYING TO GET MY, UH, MY HEAD AROUND THE IMPLICATION OF ELIMINATING THE, UH, TRIP LIMITATIONS. UM, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL, UH, A TIA TO BE DONE AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE? W WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF ELIMINATING, UH, UH, THE LIMIT ON TRIPS? THIS IS PART QUICK PLANNING. IS THERE ANY, I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT WERE, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN, UM, PREVIOUS ZONING CASES. WE HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE IF A TIA IS TRIGGERED WITH THE NUMBER OF TRIPS DURING THE SITE PLANNING PHASE, THEN IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND WHAT IS THE SITE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS? CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE TIA WOULD WORK AT THE SITE PLAN STAGE AND HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT? FOR EXAMPLE, MY DAD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS, OR MIGHT IT LIMIT WHERE TRAFFIC GOES IN AND OUT, OR WHETHER THERE NEEDED TO BE SOME SORT OF TRAFFIC LIGHT AT A CARDINAL AND SOUTH FIRST? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, TRAFFIC MITIGATION IS CONSIDERED AND LOOKED AT DURING THE TA PROCESS. AND THOSE OPTIONS WOULD, UM, BE A PART OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE ANALYSIS WOULD CONCLUDE. IT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT SITE. OKAY. UM, UM, JUST FOR THE, FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, UH, I, I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED, UH, I THINK YOU THANKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH. AND, UH, SO I, I WONDERED WHAT THE RESULT OF THAT NEGOTIATION WAS. WAS THERE, WERE THERE ISSUES THAT WERE, THERE WERE SOME CONCESSIONS ON THE PART OF THE DEVELOPER OR, UM, ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO POINT TO? UM, I THANK THEM FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND THEIR COURTESY. UH, I'M NOT SURE. I TH I THINK AFTER ALL THE CONVERSATIONS, I'M JUST NOT SURE THERE WAS ANY ABILITY TO MEET BOTH THE NEEDS OF PROVIDING HOUSING AND THE DESIRES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS SLOT THEN. SO I WAS WONDERING, OKAY, SO QUESTION FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, I MEAN, AND, AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S TWO, TWO DIFFERENT LOTS ALREADY, SO YOU CAN, ALL, YOU CAN DEVELOP MERCURY HALL AS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF ITSELF, AND IT'S A CORNER LOT. YOU CAN TAKE ACCESS FROM CARDINAL AND WELLA SOUTH FIRST. SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET THIS, OR LET'S SAY YOU DECIDED NOT TO EVEN INCLUDE THIS, THEN WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS SLIVER AND WHAT WOULD BE THE REPERCUSSIONS OF HAVING THIS DEVELOPED INDEPENDENTLY? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN, AND THIS WAS KIND OF ITS OWN LITTLE MID-BLOCK LOT. WOULD THAT ACTUALLY MORE DANGEROUS THAN INCORPORATING THIS INTO A MASTER PLAN WITH THAT CORNER? SO CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN, STOP, [02:50:01] CAN SPEAK ABOUT ACCESS TO IT, AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO, UM, THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS YOU WANT TO GO. UH, WHY DON'T YOU GO, OKAY, WHAT IF THIS SLIVER IS NOT, IF THE, IF THE, UH, ZONING IS NOT PAST THAT YOU CAN'T DO RESIDENTIAL ON THIS SLIVER, WHAT THIS ENABLES US TO DO IS IT PROVIDES THE FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE AN ACCESS FARTHER AWAY FROM, UH, UH, CARDINAL LANE TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST. AND IT JUST PROVIDES, UH, FOR, FOR BETTER PLANNING. UM, MY CLIENT, IF WE CAN'T GET, IF WE CAN'T GET THE, THE SLIVER ADDED TO THIS, THE REDUCTION IN UNITS MAKES IT, UH, NOT FEASIBLE FOR MY CLIENT TO DO IT. OKAY. BUT THAT SLIVER WOULD STILL HAVE FULL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN OF ITSELF. IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES, BUT IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A SINGLE FAMILY LOCK AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WOULD DO THAT THE WAY IT'S ON NOW. OKAY. BUT IT WOULD STILL HAVE A DRIVEWAY ONTO SOUTH FIRST BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER ACCESS TO IT THEN. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO, AND I GUESS THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD CREATE. AND SO, MR. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW TRAFFIC IS BEING HANDLED? BECAUSE, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES. WELL, WHAT WE, WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD DO IS AS WE GET INTO THE SITE PLANNING STAGE AND DEALING WITH ATD ON THE SITE PLAN, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT HOW TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC, YOU START LOOKING AT PROVIDING TURN LANES, UM, DRIVEWAY PLACEMENT, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND IT'S USUALLY DONE AT THE SITE PLAN PHASE. SO WE ANTICIPATED, UH, ONCE WE GOT OUR, OUR PALETTE TO WORK WITH, WE WOULD GO TO, TO ATD PROBABLY FIRST AND, AND, UM, WORK WITH THEM ON THE TRAFFIC MOVEMENT, ACCESS, DRIVEWAYS, THOSE THINGS. OKAY. UM, AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS TREES. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH MERCURY HALL. UM, SO ARE YOU TEARING, TAKEN DOWN HERITAGE TREES OR, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? WELL, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT IS BEING WORKED OUT WITH THE CITY ARBORIST, WHERE THERE ARE SOME OF THE TREES THAT DUE TO THE HEALTH, THEY, THEY MIGHT COME OUT, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL TREES THAT WE WILL TRANSPLANT AND A LOT OF TREES THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON, YOU KNOW, ON, IN PLACE. WE DID. OKAY. A PRE, UH, PRE-CLEARANCE MEETING WITH THE ARBORIST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET IN TROUBLE ON THE TREE ISSUE GOING IN, AGAIN, THAT'LL BE FINALIZED AT SITE PLAN, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW WE CAN WORK WITH THE HERITAGE TREES. OKAY. AND SOME ARE BUZZER HASN'T GONE UP. SO I'M GOING TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. UM, WITH THE, I MEAN, IS THERE A COMMERCIAL ASPECT TO THIS PROJECT? WE WILL HAVE A MIX OF USES. IT COULD INCLUDE LIVE WORK, OR, UM, BUT, BUT UNDER THE V W WILL COMPLY WITH THE V REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. AND CAN YOU KIND OF MAYBE TALK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME HAD SOME IDEAS ABOUT WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE SERVICING THE COMMUNITY AND HELP, YOU KNOW, CREATE A BETTER COMPLETE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, BY SEEING WHAT, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE MISSING IN THERE. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AND I, I WANT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO KNOW THAT SHOULD THIS ZONING GET PASSED. UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WANT TO STOP TALKING. WE, WE WANT TO GET WITH THEM ON DESIGN, THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PHASE. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPEL, UM, I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. SETTLE, BECAUSE THIS IS ON SUCH A, UM, I HEAVILY TRAVEL TRANSIT CORRIDOR. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE THEORY THAT PEOPLE WOULD TAKE TRANSIT INTO DOWNTOWN, IF THEY LIVED HERE, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR PARKING REDUCTION IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? I THINK THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY FOR THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE CODE IS SET UP NOW, IT WOULD REQUIRE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE IF WE WENT BELOW A CODE, BUT THE GOAL ALONG SOUTH FIRST WITH THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR IS TO TRY TO TAKE MORE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS, OBVIOUSLY, AND, AND USE THE TRANSIT. [02:55:01] RIGHT. THANK, OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? THERE'S DEFINITELY MORE SLOTS. IF NOT, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER HERE YOU CAN UNMUTE? I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT STEPS RECOMMENDATION ON THIS CASE. SO A PUBLIC HEARING WAS ALREADY CLOSED. OH, GOOD. YES. UM, OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT ACCOMMODATION. AND ALSO PART OF THAT IS TO REMOVE THE TRIP LIMITATION AND THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT FROM THE CEO, BUT KEEP THE PROHIBITED. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? WE HAVE MISSIONER AZHAR AS A SECOND. OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? WELL, UM, CONSIDERING THIS IS ON A 60 C, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD PUT OUR HIGHEST DENSITY WHERE WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION ANSWERED. I KNOW WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT IF WE COULD GET PEOPLE ON THE CORE TRANSIT QUARTERS, OUT OF THEIR CARS AND INTO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THEN PERHAPS WE WON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT WE HEARD ABOUT. UM, THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT ON A CORE TRANSIT QUARTER SEEMS VERY LOW. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE SIXTH STATE. THE ONLY THING THAT CONCERNS ME, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE PLAN IS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE FIVE STORY PARKING GARAGE. AND I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION, WILL ANY OF IT BE UNDERGROUND, BUT I STILL WANT TO PUT FORTH. OKAY. SO, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN NEXT. SOMEONE SPEAKING AGAINST WE HAVE EVERYBODY'S SPEAKING AGAINST. OKAY. UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR. THANK YOU. I WAS JUST, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, JUST, AND THAT THEN I WISH ADD STAFF WAS HERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT, I JUST HOPE AS THIS MOVES INTO SITE PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF REALLY LOOKS AT SOME OF THE STAFF WILL REALLY WORK FOR THE APPLICANTS. AND I HOPE THAT DIDN'T MIND. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I DO THINK THAT, YES, THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR SUCH A PROJECT AND IT WOULD YIELD AFFORDABLE AGAIN. IT'S AGAIN, IT'S AND ALSO THAT THEY WILL BE COMPATIBILITY TO GET ON THE BACK OF THE BUDGET, A LARGE NUMBER OF SIGNIFICANT. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING AGAINST, OKAY. OH, OKAY. AND LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ANOTHER SLOT FOR SOMEBODY SPEAKING FOR, AND IF NOBODY WANTS IT, I'LL TAKE IT. OKAY, GO AHEAD. IF YOU WANT IT. OKAY. SO, UH, I LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND I SERVED ON THE DAWSON INCONTACT TEAM FOR A LONG TIME. AND THIS IT'S VERY INTERESTING. YOU LOOK AT THE TREE DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM THE, SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS AREA, THE BEST SIDEWALKS AND THIS ENTIRE AREA HAPPENED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE TREE, WHICH IS A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UM, THAT THERE WAS ALSO OPPOSITION ON. AND I'LL NEVER FORGET. THERE WAS A VERY FUN RESTAURANT AND A GASTROPUB IN THE BOTTOM. AND I WAS THERE ONE DAY AND I WAS TALKING TO THIS GUY AND HE GRABBED ME BY THE SHOULDER. HE'S LIKE, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. I FOUGHT THIS PROJECT. I FIND IT HARD. I DIDN'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN. I'M JUST LIKE, COOL. LIKE TELL ME MORE, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR MORE. LET ME TELL ME ALL ABOUT WHY HE DIDN'T LIKE IT AND WHY HE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE THERE. AND HE FOUGHT IT AND HE GOES, AND NOW IT'S MY FAVORITE DEVICE TO GO. HE WAS SO EXCITED THAT HE GETS TO WALK TO THIS RESTAURANT AND I KID YOU NOT. I SAW THE SAME GUY THERE. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS RESTAURANT DID CLOSE. ANOTHER ONE WILL COME KNOCK ON WOOD, BUT THIS WAS HIS FAVORITE SPOT. AND I GOT TO SEE HIM THERE FOR A LONG TIME. AND HE WAS ALWAYS WILLING TO TALK TO ME. AND I HOPE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS CAN ENJOY WHAT IT BRINGS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I BIKE THROUGH THIS AREA ALL THE TIME. I'VE WORKED A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY AND THOSE SIDE STREETS ARE WHERE I BIKE AND THE MAIN PEOPLE I SEE USING THE BUS 10, UH, IT'S THE BUS RAPID TRANSIT, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT BUS RAPID TRANSIT, BUT IT'S EVERY 10, 12 MINUTES. AND THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE TREE TAKING THE BUS, YOU KNOW? SO THIS IS A GREAT PLACE FOR HOUSING, GREAT PLACE FOR TRANSIT RIDERS [03:00:01] AND WE NEED MORE OF IT. AWESOME. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, LET'S SEE THAT'S ALL THE SLOTS, UNLESS SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK A NEUTRAL, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BE NEUTRAL, OTHERWISE THE MOTION ON THE TABLE, UM, A COMMISSIONER SECRET, PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT IS MOTION ON THE TABLE. THAT WAS FIRST BY SEGAR. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ZAR IS FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITH REMOVAL OF THE HEIGHT AND THE TRIP LIMITATION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. UH, DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? OKAY. ALRIGHT. WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE. HOLD UP YOUR GREEN. LET'S SEE, WE'VE GOT VETO IS A GREEN. OKAY. AWESOME. 11 ZERO. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. UH, WE'LL NOW TURN DON'T SEAT BACK TO COMMISSIONER KENNY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHEA. UM, LET'S SEE. WE'RE WORKING ON WELDON LIST AND, UM, SEE OUR AGENDA WITH CONSENT AS WELL, BUT OUR LAST DISCUSSION CASE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE ALL RIGHT. UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION. UH, SO, UM, BURNETT ROAD CORRIDOR, [C.1 Discussion and possible action to forward recommendations to Council regarding the Burnet Road Corridor and core transit corridors. (Co-Sponsors: Commissioner Thompson and Commissioner Anderson)] A LITTLE FRUSTRATING. UM, THE, UH, FOR AWHILE, WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY FROM THE CORNER OFFICE BECAUSE, UH, THE, THERE WERE COMMENTS DO AND, UH, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME BEFORE THE COMMENTS COULD BE RESPONDED TO, AND NOW THERE'S AN ITEM ON THE BALLOT. AND SO NOW THERE'S ALL THESE ELECTORAL ISSUES WITH THE BALLOT. UM, SO, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CORRIDOR OFFICE. UH, LONG STORY SHORT IS I THINK WE CAN GET THEM TO RESPOND TO SOME WRITTEN Q AND A AND, UM, BUT IT WASN'T GONNA HAPPEN TONIGHT. AND, UM, THE, UH, BUT I CONTINUED TO BE AN ENGAGED CITIZEN AND AUSTIN AND A RESIDENT OF AUSTIN. AND, UH, I HOPE TO WORK, UM, WITH COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND, AND PERHAPS, UH, A, UH, A AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO, UM, INFORM THIS ITEM AND MAYBE GET IT, GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. UM, FROM MY RESEARCH, WHAT HAS BECOME CLEAR IS THAT, UM, THE SINNER RUNNING BUS RAPID TRANSIT IS FAR FAR SUPERIOR TO CURBSIDE RUNNING BUS, RAPID TRANSIT, HOWEVER, REQUIRES, UH, SOMETHING TO BOARD ON A MEDIAN. UM, I DUNNO IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THAT, UH, HOUSTON JUST OPENED UP A BEAUTIFUL CENTER, RUNNING BUS, RAPID TRANSIT LINE THIS PAST WEEKEND. UM, IT'S GORGEOUS. IT'S AMAZING. UH, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A TON OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND I HOPE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS IS, IS THAT I'M, I I'M CONCERNED THAT WHEN, UM, I TALKED TO CAP METRO ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY NEEDED TO PUT IN THESE MEDIAN STATIONS. UM, IF YOU JUST LINE IT UP AND I HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF SLIDES THAT I CAN SHOW YOU, UH, AND HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THOSE VERIFIED BY THE QUARTER OFFICE. UM, EVEN OUR LONGTERM UNFUNDED PLANS ON BURNETT ROAD, UH, ARE LIKE FIVE TO EIGHT FEET SHY OF HAVING ENOUGH MEDIAN SPACE, WHERE WE COULD JUST RUN A BUS, RAPID TRANSIT DOWN THE, UH, DOWN THE, UH, DOWN THE CENTER. SO, UM, WHAT I, MY AIM WITH THAT ITEM IS TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, BUT IN THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, WE ACTUALLY PASSED A POLICY THAT SAID, HEY, IF YOU HAVE A METRO RAPID CORRIDOR, YOU SHOULD REALLY TRY AND MAKE THAT BRT. AND YOU SHOULD LET US KNOW IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT VRT AND WHY. AND, UM, IT, THAT RECOMMENDATION DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY INTO THE ADOPTED ASAP. AND I HOPE THAT MAYBE NOW THAT WE HAVE A FEW MORE EXAMPLES OF WHY THAT MIGHT BE A WISE POLICY, NOT SAYING, BUILD IT NOW, BUT JUST SAYING MAYBE PLAN FOR IT. AND IF YOU LOOKED AT IT AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RIGHT AWAY, AND YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T DO IT, YOU KNOW, PUBLICLY POSTING EVALUATION. CAUSE I WILL SAY A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WROTE IN ON THE COMMENTS OF THE BURNETT ROAD CORRIDOR. AND SO WHY DID YOU TAKE OUT THE DEDICATED TRANSIT AND THE PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THEM FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF ONE SENTENCE THAT SAID WE ARE SEEKING TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY TRANSIT ON ALL MODES ON THIS CORRIDOR. AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE COMMUNICATION THAT'S GONE TO NOW A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THE PUBLIC THAT'S REALLY INVESTED IN AND TRYING TO KIND OF FUTURE-PROOF OR OUR TRANSIT. SO, UM, I'M GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS ONE AND I HOPE TO BRING OUT SOMETHING SOON. AND I THINK AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS STEWARDS OF THIS STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, UM, UH, COULD, UH, CONSIDER [03:05:01] SENDING SOMETHING TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL, UM, SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO HAVE A, AN AMENDMENT TO THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN TO TAKE BACK UP AGAIN. THAT QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE PLANNING FOR OUR FUTURE TRANSIT UPGRADES OR NOT? CAUSE I'LL POINT YOU TO THE GOLD LINE THAT HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN RAIL OR BUS RAPID TRANSIT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, RESERVING A AMOUNT OF RIGHTAWAY WOULD ALLOW YOU TO MOVE BETWEEN THOSE MODES, UM, FAILING TO PLAN FOR THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROCESS AND A FULL PLANNING PROCESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL SPIRITS, UH, AND POTENTIALLY RELOCATE ALL YOUR SEWERS AND UTILITIES AND SIDEWALKS AND TREES THAT YOU JUST PLANTED SEVEN YEARS AGO, UM, TO MAKE THAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATION. SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THE ITEM HAS REMAINED ON THERE. AND, UH, AND I HOPE TO SEE SEEK SOME RESOLUTION IN THE FUTURE. UM, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF ME. SO, UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA LET SEE ONE GO BY UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE ON, ON ITEMS C1, THE BURNER ROAD QUARTER, NOT SEEING ANY WELL WE'LL MOVE ON, UM, UH, [C.2 Discussion and possible action to establish a working group tasked with reviewing matters related to mobility and transportation. (Co-Sponsors: Chair Kenny and Commissioner Thompson)] ITEM C TO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A WORKING GROUP TEST REVIEW MATTERS RELATED TO MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION. UM, THIS IS, UH, SO EXCITING. UM, UH, IF YOU'RE REALLY NERDING OUT ON TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, EARLIER TONIGHT IN THE CASE, THE SF SIX CASE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, UH, TREVOR CRITERIA MANUAL RIGHT NOW, AMONG MANY OTHER THINGS, UM, UH, UH, JUST, WELL, JUST GENERALLY A REALLY PRIORITIZES KIND OF FAST LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR CARS THROUGH EVERY INTERSECTION AND, UM, EVERYTHING FROM SLIP LANES TO, I GOT AN INTERSECTION DOWN THE ROAD FROM ME WHERE WE JUST PUT IN A ACTUALLY CIVILITY, DID THE ENGINEERING, UM, AND, UH, IT'S AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING. UM, BUT BECAUSE THE STREETS HEADED HIT AT AN INTERSECTION, IT'S 120 FOOT CROSSING, UH, ACROSS TRAFFIC, UM, FOR THE SENIORS TO CROSS TO THE NEAREST AMENITIES OUT THEIR FRONT DOOR, 120 FEET IT'S AND IT'S, AND IT'S FOR JUST ONE LANE AND YOU STRETCH THEM, BUT THE LANES ARE, ARE, THEY'RE LIKE LITERALLY LIKE 30 FOOT LANES THAT ARE HITTING AT AN ANGLE. I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S INSANE. AND SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M HOPING THAT THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, CAN, UH, WELL, AND, AND THE ATD HAS TOLD ME IS THAT, UH, THEY WILL BE LOOKING INTO THIS WORKING GROUP TO HELP DO THE WORK ON THE CRITERIA MANUALS THAT THE DRAFT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RIGHT NOW IS TASKING PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. SO, UM, THIS WORKING GROUP WOULD ALLOW A LOT OF, UM, UH, KIND OF INTENSIVE WORK TO GET DONE OUTSIDE OF COMMISSION AND REALLY MAKE SOME POSITIVE CHANGES. I THINK WITH THE MULTI MOBILITY, UH, MULTI-MODAL BOND OR TAX RATE ELECTION COMING UP AND WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ON, ON URBANIST AND TRANSPORTATION, TWITTER, OR THE WAY I AM, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND THE WORLD RIGHT NOW WITH CITIES, JUST COMPLETELY RETHINKING HOW THEY PRIORITIZE THEIR STREETS AND THEIR INTERSECTIONS, AND WITH POTENTIALLY A LARGE SOURCE OF FUNDING COMING IN. UM, WE COULD REALLY BE ON THE CUSP OF SOMETHING BIG IN THIS CITY AND THIS WORKING GROUP, UM, WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD ON THE MOBILITY PLAN AND THE CRITERIA MANUALS, ET CETERA. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, LET'S SEE HOW WE BEST WANT TO STRUCTURE THIS. UH, WHY DON'T WE TAKE, UH, OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE MIGHT BE. UM, LET'S SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THAT. I KNOW THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING ON THE WORKING GROUP. UM, AND, UH, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION ARE EAGER TO APPOINT MEMBERS OF THEIR COMMISSION TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS. AND I'M HOPING TO PULL IN THE BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND JUST MAKE THIS KIND OF THE NEXUS OF A MOBILITY PLANNINGS ON THE, UH, COMMISSION SIDE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO, UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT APPOINTING MEMBERS? YES. SCOTIA, A COUSIN, AND THEN SHEA. SURE. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON IS I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM HIM AS WELL AND WHAT HIS VISION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED IN IS MAKING SURE THAT AS WE BUILD, WE'RE BUILDING A, AN ENTIRE NETWORK OF STREETS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SOME SPECIALTY SORT OF ON THE EDGES, THE SORT OF GREENFIELD DEVELOPMENT ON THE EDGES OF THE CITY, WHERE MAYBE THE STREETS AND UTILITIES, ET CETERA, ARE NOT NECESSARILY CONNECTED IN THE SAME SORT OF GRID NETWORK WAY THAT WE WOULD, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T BUILDING LOTS OF COLD OSAC SUBURBS. UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MAY NOT BE CALLED THE SEX IN THE SUBURBS ANYMORE, BUT THAT [03:10:01] THE, THE SUBURBS THEMSELVES WEREN'T CONNECTED OR SUBDIVISIONS WEREN'T CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER. UH, AND, UM, SO I'VE BEEN READING A LOT ABOUT HOW WE CAN SORT OF MEASURE THAT CONNECTIVITY AND WHAT METRICS WE COULD POSSIBLY REQUIRE ON A SITE PLAN, UH, OR A PLOT PLAN THAT WOULD INDICATE WHAT THOSE THAT CONNECTIVITY WAS, I SHOULD SAY. SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF MENTION WHAT, UM, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THIS. I MEAN, DURING THE, UM, THE, THE COVER REVIEW AND SUCH, AND, UM, AND, AND IN SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, I MEAN, UM, JUST ABOUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SIZE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEEDED, AND EVEN TALKING TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, HOW THEY'RE SAYING THEY NEED CERTAIN SIZES OR WHATEVER TO DO THIS LIFE SAFETY FOR THE TRUCKS OF THIS. AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, WHY AREN'T WE DOING THAT? SO I STARTED LOOKING INTO OTHER COUNTRIES AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, RIGHT. AND SOMEHOW THEY'RE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN A LOT LESS SPACE. AND IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT LOOKING AT JUST SMALLER INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WAS ALSO WE THINKING HOW WE DO THINGS LIKE FOR INSTANCE, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS HAVING THE BIG FIRE TRUCK AT EVERY SINGLE STOP THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE CALL, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY INTO SMALLER ONES THAT ACTUALLY CAN FIT THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, SPACES AND STREETS MUCH BETTER. IT'S ACTUALLY TO THINK I GET SMARTER AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SOMEHOW ALLOW MORE, TO EXIST IN A SMALLER SPACE. SO I THINK IT WOULD, IT MIGHT EVEN GO BEYOND JUST LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT ABOUT HOW WE DO THINGS, YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST, JUST THOSE STREETS, YOU KNOW, AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WORKING GROUP WOULD BE START LOOKING AT TOO, LOOKING AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WELL, WHAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN DOING? YOU KNOW, EVEN THEN, I MEAN, WE ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, LIKE EARLIER, UH, RICHARD KENNEDY, YOU'RE SAYING LIKE BETWEEN A REGULAR STANDARD STREET VERSUS SF SIX, SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT THE SF SIX TO WORK WHERE WE CAN GET, UM, WE GET EMERGENCY VEHICLES THROUGH THAT, BUT THEN AS SOON AS YOU PUT US AT THREE INTO IT, IT'S SO MUCH WIDER. WHY, WHY AREN'T WE RECALIBRATING THAT? SO THERE'S, THERE'S STUFF BEYOND THIS ALSO THERE'S EVEN AS FAR AS FROM UTILITIES AND PLACEMENT OF THAT. SO IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST TRANSPORTATION. I THINK IT'S HOW IT OVERLAPS WITH, UM, OTHER SYSTEMS, OTHER COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. FOR SURE. AND PULL WHERE YOURS CAN PUSH YOUR HEMPEL WHERE YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND. JUST ON THAT, THAT, YEAH. SORRY, COMMISSIONER. SHAY'S THAT THERE IS THERE, ARE YOU THINKING OF INVITING DEPARTMENT MEMBERS, LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN ON THAT CONVERSATION TONIGHT IN PARTICULAR IS, IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE AT THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES? UM, SO I THINK WE DO, I THINK WE INVITE THEM AND WE EXPLORE THAT, THEN WE INVITE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UH, OFF THEIR WATER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF A SUDDEN ENERGY, EVEN ON HOW THEY HANDLE THINGS, BECAUSE ONCE WE START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN START, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S WAYS THAT WE, THINGS GET REMOVED OUT OF THE STREET AND PUT INTO A DIFFERENT HE'S BEEN ALONE. UM, THE PROPERTY, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. AND AGAIN, IT'S ALMOST TAKING THE WHOLE SITE PLANT TYPE DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT I MEAN, WE GOTTA BREAK THE BOX BEFORE WE CAN FIX IT. SO I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M JUST GOING TO INTERJECT REAL QUICK AND ASK FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO SUSPEND OUR DEBATE RULES, UM, WHERE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION SEEING NO OBJECTION, UH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. UM, CAUSE YOU'RE, HEMPEL, UH, 20, YOU SHOULD SAY THAT. UM, I HEAR THAT, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS MADE GREAT STRIDES RECENTLY AND, UM, ADJUSTING THINKING ON HOW WE DO RFPS FOR FIRE ENGINES AND, UH, AND THE, UM, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE PUT IN THERE. SO, UH, ONE OF MY GREATEST JOYS OVER THE LAST A YEAR OR TWO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ATD STAFF AND, AND I, I THINK THE ATV POLICY STAFF IS, IS JUST GREAT. AND, UM, THEY ARE EAGER TO WORK WITH US AND, AND EAGER TO GET INPUT. AND I THINK A REALLY VALUABLE ROLE THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS PLAYED AND CAN CONTINUE TO PLAY IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CREATING THE SPACE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION STAFFERS, WHO KNOW THIS STUFF AND KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY WANNA DO AND, AND GIVING, GIVING THEM THE SPACE TO, TO, UH, PUT FORTH THE POLICIES THAT, UM, THAT THEY REALLY KIND OF ALREADY WANT TO, BUT MAYBE ARE NOT TRADITIONAL IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SO CRITICAL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE ON COUNCIL MEETS LIKE EVERY LIKE TWO MONTHS, I THINK, LIKE IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT ENOUGH. AND SO I [03:15:01] THINK THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT AND, UH, AND, UH, PRODUCTIVE, UH, SYMBIOSIS BETWEEN THE COMMISSIONS AND THE TRANSPORTATION STAFF ON THESE ISSUES. SO, SO THEY'RE READY TO WORK WITH US. UM, IT'S UP TO YOU, I'M I'M GONE. UM, SO I, I MEAN, I WOULD FORESEE THIS, UH, MAYBE RAMPING UP WHEN YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PROJECT TO WORK ON, UM, LIKE THE CRITERIA MANUALS SAY, OR REVISION OF THIS PREMIUM MOBILITY PLAN OR CERTAIN IMPACT FEES, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND MAYBE NOT MEETING FOR SIX MONTHS IF THERE'S NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. AND, UM, IT'S A BEAUTY OF A WORKING GROUP AND I, AND I WOULD ACTUALLY, I THINK IF IT WORKS WELL, I THINK THERE'S A STRONG, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO CHAIR OLIVER, WE'VE TALKED RESTRUCTURING THE JOINT COMMITTEES, AND I'M IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ZAP. AND, UH, I THINK THIS IS POTENTIALLY A VERY PRODUCTIVE JOINT COMMITTEE TO HAVE, UM, CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE IMMEDIATE TOPICS TO TACKLE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER JOINT COMMITTEES, UH, THAT ARE OUT THERE. UM, AND, AND, AND, UH, A PRODUCTIVE FORMAT TO HAVE MULTIPLE COMMISSIONS INVOLVED. SO, UM, YEAH, I COULD DEFINITELY SEE THIS BECOMING A, A STANDING JOINT COMMITTEE, UM, AFTER SOME TIME COMMISSIONERS ARE. THANK YOU, SIR. I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. MAYOR, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER COMMISSIONS, IF I'M WORKING GROUPS, ONE, LIKE MOST COMMITTEES, THEY A LOT HAVE A, ESSENTIALLY A QUORUM OF OUR INFORMATION ON THEM. AND THE OTHER PART WOULD BE THAT ACTUALLY WORKING GROUPS ARE OPEN TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SERVE ON THE COMMISSION ITSELF. SO THE COMMISSIONERS THEMSELVES COULDN'T BIKE AND EXTEND THE GROUP AND HAVE OTHER SORT OF PROFESSIONALS OR REPRESENTATIVES, MR. BARON, THAT WAS THE QUESTION FOR YOU. CHAIR COULD HAVE BEEN, HIS CHALET IS ON ANGELA THERE. THE WORKING GROUPS CAN INVITE THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY DO NOT FOLLOW TUMMY RULES. THERE SHOULD BE A LACK OF PC QUORUM. AND THE OTHER STIPULATION IS THAT, UH, STAFF, UH, WILL NOT, UH, PROVIDE, UH, SERVICES FOR A WORKING GROUP. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE, THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE HAD HERE ON PLANNING COMMISSION WITH IT, WITH SOME OTHER WORKING GROUPS ARE THAT, UM, WHEN, UH, WHEN IT'S RELEVANT TO STAFF, STAFF DEFINITELY SHOW UP AND SUPPORT, BUT, UH, BUT THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO BRINGING IN OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AND WORKING ON A COUPLE THINGS, UH, TO ACTUALLY FOR THIS WORKING GROUP TO BRING IN SOME STAKEHOLDERS, UM, THAT AREN'T QUITE DONE YET, BUT, UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE TO PARTICIPATE IN, UH, FACILITATE BRINGING SOME OTHER FOLKS INTO. SO, UM, I WOULD HOPE TO SUPPORT Y'ALL IN YOUR WORK. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WE WANT TO HAVE ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE TAKE SELF NOMINATIONS FOR THE WORKING GROUP. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO WHO ALL IS INTERESTED? WE CAN DO UP TO SIX, BUT I THINK FIVE IS SAFER. MISSIONARY THOMPSON, GHANA'S CREDO, QUESTIONER, SCHNEIDER USHER, SHEA, OR THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER TO START WITH MR. SEEGER'S FIVE. MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD GROUP TO START WITH AND WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. SO LET ME, LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN. UM, MICHENER, SCHNEIDER, C OR THOMPSON. YEAH, IT IS PULIDO SHAPE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. I THINK THEY HAD THEIR RIGHT SCHNEIDER, SEGER, THOMPSON AND YAZ, QUITO SHADES THAT RIGHT. OKAY. AND GUYS, I'M SO EXCITED. I'M GOING TO HELP YOU ON THIS. I'M ON HERE. I'M NOT, I CAN'T BE CONFLICTED OUT. YOU CAN'T KICK ME OUT OF THE ROOM. UM, IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE COOL. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME GOOD STUFF. UM, ALL RIGHT. AND, AND I WOULD ALSO, UH, UM, LIKE TO ASK CONSENT THAT WE, UM, WORK GROUPS DON'T HAVE CHAIRS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UM, ASK CONSENT FOR THOMPSON, UH, TO READ THE, BE THE LEAD ON THE WORKING GROUP. LET ME GIVE A THUMBS UP. OKAY. MR. THOMPSON, IT'S YOUR BABY. UM, GO FORTH. ALRIGHT. UH, ITEM [C.3 Discussion and possible action to forward recommendations to Council regarding Boards and Commissions virtual meetings. (Co-Sponsors: Commissioner Azhar and Commissioner Thompson)] NUMBER C3. UM, DID FOLKS SEE THE REPORTING AND THE MONITOR ON THE, UH, ON THE ETHICS COMMISSION, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THE COMMISSION BOARDS AND WORK GROUPS? UM, THEY ARE TALKING, UH, THEY WERE DISCUSSING, UH, EASING THE SIGNUP PERIODS, PARTICULARLY, WHICH I KNOW IS, WAS THE GREATEST, UM, SUBJECT HERE. SO, [03:20:01] UM, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS MORE. UM, BUT, UH, I MIGHT ALSO RECOMMEND LOOKING UP THE MONITOR'S COVERAGE THERE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE ETHICS COMMISSION IS KIND OF TAKING A LEAD ON THIS. AND, UM, SO IF YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS, UH, MIGHT BE WORTH JUST GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION. YOU WERE QUOTED IN THE MONITOR AS BEING ACTIVE ON THIS TOPIC. CAUSE IT WAS THE SAME TOPICS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK THE ETHICS COMMISSION WAS DISCUSSING THAT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THEIR EVALUATE, BUT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD, UM, BE WORKING ON IT. UM, THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE ITEM. OKAY. SEEING NONE. UM, OKAY. IT'S TIME FOR ELECTIONS. UM, SO WE WILL START WITH CHAIR AND GO TO VICE CHAIR. UM, THERE IS A, UH, CALL FOR NOMINATIONS. DO NOT NEED TO BE SECONDED, CAN BE SELF NOMINATIONS OR NOMINATIONS OF OTHERS, UM, OF THEIR ANDREW'S NOTES, A VOTE ON EACH NOMINATION MEMBERS CAN VOTE IRONY ON EACH NOMINATION, UH, MAY NOT HAVE SILENT OR UNDISCLOSED VOTES VOTE UNTIL ONE NOMINATION, GARNERS, SEVEN VOTES. UM, WE ARE NOT POSTED FOR, UM, A PARLIAMENTARIAN OR SECRETARY. SO IF THOSE FOLKS WANTED TO RUN, YOU CAN, AND WE JUST HAD THAT ELECTION, UM, AND THE FOLLOWING, UH, MEETING WHEN WE NEED TO POST FOR IT. AND, UM, MR. BARRY'S REMINDING ME THAT, UM, DISCUSSION OF THE WORKING GROUPS SHOULD STAY WITHIN THE APPOINTED MEMBERS, UM, S UH, FOR OUR PRIOR ITEMS. SO JUST REMEMBER THAT, UM, BUT ALONG THOSE LINES, I THINK IF A MEMBER BECOMES LESS INTERESTED IN AND YOU WANT TO DROP OFF TO MAKE ROOM FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD DO. SO LET'S TAKE UP [D.1 Nomination and election of Chair of the Planning Commission.] NOMINATION AND ELECTION OF CHAIR, UM, COMMISSIONER SEGER. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER SHAW. OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR NOMINATION FROM WHAT I'VE OBSERVED WITH TODD'S WORK? HE ALWAYS GET THOSE INTO DEPTH WITH EVERY CASE. HE KNOWS HE ASKS ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, I THINK HE WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT CHAIR. HE'S GOT A VERY DIRECT PERSONALITY. HE WANTS TO GET THE DETAILS AND DOESN'T STOP UNTIL HE GETS THEM. AND I THINK THAT IT ARE THE QUALITIES FOR A CHAIR. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT, UH, WE DON'T NEED SECONDS, BUT YOU HEAR YOUR SENTIMENTS. OKAY. MR. ANDERSON, UM, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL. GO AHEAD. YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR NOMINATION? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HE WAS TRAMPLED. YOU ACCEPT THE NOMINATION. OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR ANSWERING YOU IN A SPEECH TO SPEAK TO YOUR NOMINATION? I DO. I DO. AND I THINK IT'S FUNNY THAT, UM, I LOVE TODD SHAWN, AND, UH, I DO RECALL A TIME WHEN HE ACTUALLY INTERJECTED WITH ANOTHER PERSON FOR CHAIR. UM, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, BUT, UH, I JUST THINK COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL'S IS TERRIFIC. I LOVE HER BACKGROUND. I LOVE HER PASSION. SHE'S JUST DOING ALL OF THESE GREAT THINGS. UM, SHE JUST REALLY IS GUNG HO ABOUT FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO FIGURE OUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND GOING FOR HOUSING. AND, UM, I JUST, I LOVE HER PASSION AND HER EXPERIENCE AND ALL THOSE FUN THINGS. THAT THINGS SHOULD BE A TERRIFIC CHAIR. I'M EXCITED TO, UH, DISCUSS, BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW NOMINATIONS. UM, I, I THINK THE WORLD OF BOTH OF THESE NOMINEES AND THINK BOTH OF THEM WOULD MAKE GREAT CHAIRS. UM, UH, I WOULD, UH, PERSONALLY SPEAK TO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER PIMPLES, UH, CANDIDACY, UM, AND MY TIME, UH, UH, SHARING THIS BODY IN WHICH I STILL HAVEN'T MANAGED TO GET RIGHT. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THE, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BECOME REAL CLEAR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, CHAIRING THE MEETING KIND OF TAKES PRIORITY OVER, OVER YOUR OWN, UH, UH, WISH TO EXPRESS OPINIONS ON ITEMS. YOU CAN STILL FIT IT IN, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD. AND, UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL'S IS ONE OF OUR, UH, LESS, UH, VOLUBLE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, BUT, UM, I KNOW IN MY, UH, WHEN SHE DOES SPEAK INTO MY CONVERSATIONS WITH HER, SHE IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, UM, WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CODE AND THE PROCESS, UM, AND, UH, THE, UM, UH, HER SENSE OF FAIRNESS AND, AND JUST, I THINK KIND OF QUIET COMPETENCE IS, UM, ARE GOOD QUALITIES FOR A CHAIR. AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT SHE WOULD BE GREAT. UM, UH, I THINK THE WORLD OF, OF COMMISSIONER SHAW AS WELL. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A, UH, EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES HERE, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK PERSONALLY FOR COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL, [03:25:03] FOR SURE. SCHNEIDER IS NOT A NEW, IT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL NOMINATION. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, UH, FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, COMMISSIONER HANDEL. GREAT, TERRIFIC. THESE ARE BOTH EXCELLENT NOMINATE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A WORD FOR A COMMISSIONER SHAW. I, UM, I THINK ANOTHER QUALITY THAT IS, UM, THAT I THINK WE ALL POSSESS TO SOME DEGREE, BUT, UM, COMMISSIONER SHAW DOES EXTREMELY WELL IS EQUANIMITY. WE ALL EVEN KEELED BALANCED APPROACH TO THE CASES THAT WE HEAR. I FIND HIM TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND WELL-PREPARED, UM, AND BALANCED IN THIS APPROACH. UM, AND YOU KNOW, ON TOP OF IT, LIKE EVERYONE HERE, A REALLY NICE GUY, UM, THAT'S WHY, UH, HE'S GOT MY BOAT. OKAY. AND WE CAN KEEP HEARING, UH, COMMENTS UNLESS IT GETS ABSURD AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A VOTE COMMISSIONERSHIP SO, UM, I THINK BOTH, BOTH CANDIDATES ARE GREAT. UM, I WISH I HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPEL FOR MORE YEARS THAN I HAVE WITH COMMISSIONER SHAW. UH, SHE'S DEFINITELY NEWER IN IT, BUT, UM, THE TIME THAT I'VE SPENT WITH COMMISSIONER SHAW GOING THROUGH ALL OF THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SEEING, TAKE THE CHARGE AND TAKE THE LEAD OF MAKING SURE BOTH SIDES WERE, UH, BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND HIS RESEARCH, YOU KNOW, OF LEADING THESE EFFORTS, UM, THAT'S WHAT GETS ME TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LEAD THIS AS WELL. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ALSO, I MEAN, I LOVE THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE BUTT HEADS. I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE'D BE ON THE PHONE FOR AN HOUR AND WE'RE JUST GOING AT IT, BUT THEN WE REALLY TOOK THE TIME TO THINK THROUGH ALL THE CONCERNS ON BOTH SIDES, UM, VERSUS JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST SHUTTING THE DOOR ON IT. AND I HOPE THAT HE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP BRING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE ALL SIDES GETS HEARD AND PUT ON THE TABLE. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER SHAW ON THIS. OKAY. SO ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I LOVE BOTH CANDIDATES AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE KIND OF A SHAW HAMBLE TICKET REGARDLESS OF WHO'S CHAIR AND WHO IS VICE CHAIR. UM, I HAVE WORKED MORE CLOSELY WITH SEAN REALLY SEEING KIND OF HIS DEDICATION. UH, WE MAY NOT HAVE ALWAYS AGREED. AND, UH, AT TIMES I WONDER AFTER A MEETING, WHEN WE HAVEN'T AGREED AND, UM, ON THE SAND PLAYING SAND VOLLEYBALL WITH THEM, HE DOES SPIKE THE BALL PRETTY HARD, UH, WHEN I'M ON THE OTHER TEAM. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE PISSED HIM OFF THAT WEEK OR NOT, BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS, UH, AMPLE, UM, SHAW COMBO. ALL RIGHT. UH, MR. VERA WANTS ME TO REMIND EVERYONE, UH, THAT THE NEW CHAIR WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT AND SIGNING PLATS, JUST FYI. UM, SO, UM, ANYONE ELSE, WHAT ELSE TO SPEAK? ARE WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE? ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, ALPHABETICAL ORDER. I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF MISTER HEMPEL. OKAY. OH, WAIT, FIVE LAYUPS COMMISSIONER HANDLED. DID YOU VOTE FOR YOURSELF? OKAY, LET'S DO THAT AGAIN. ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, CRISPR HANDFUL. UM, YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF UNLESS IT'S LIKE WEIRD. UM, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX. OKAY. AND ALL IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER SHAW, UH, SIX, SEVEN, SO SIX, SEVEN COMMISSIONER SHAW, UH, REGULATIONS, NEW CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, NOT YET. SO, UH, ITEM D TO, [D.2 Nomination and election of Vice-Chair of the Planning Commission.] UH, VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE A COMMISSIONER HANDFUL FOR ALL THE REASONS STATED BEFORE. UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR AND THAT'S UNANIMOUS. CONGRATULATIONS. VICE-CHAIR HEMPHILL. UM, ALRIGHT. THAT'S OH, WAIT. OKAY. UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SURE. AS ARE JUST ON THE LAST ITEM. I JUST WANT TO TANK KASI AMAZING WORK AND FOR GUIDING US THROUGH A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS. SO I [03:30:01] JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AND, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE. AND IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE YOU'RE HERE. YEAH. I SAID IT BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO OTHER CHAIRS AND, UH, AND ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR COMMISSIONS AND, UM, YOU AND OTHER LAND USE COMMISSIONS AND IT'S, UH, UM, YOU GUYS REALLY ARE JUST AMAZING TO WORK WITH AND, UH, JUST THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM, LIKE EVERY, EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT. SO, UM, IT REALLY WAS AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE AND I REALLY HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, [E. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] MR. ZAR. SO I DON'T KNOW STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THIS OR NOT, BUT I'M JUST GONNA THROW IT OUT THERE. AND HOPEFULLY THERE IS ONE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN FTP JACKMAN FROM THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT COME, SHE'S WORKING ON GENTRIFICATION, DISPLACEMENT ISSUES. I WOULD LOVE FOR HER TO OR GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AS WE GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE CASES. UM, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF A LAND OF OPEN CODE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS. SO I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE REALLY VALUABLE AT LEAST TO ME. AND I WOULD THINK TO OTHER FOLKS AS WELL. AND I THINK ALSO JUST IN CONJUNCTION SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING THESE AREAS, UM, THAT ARE WITHIN THE UPROOTED STUDIES, SUCH AS EAST MLK, SUCH AS, UH, MONTOPOLIS. WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF JUST WANTING CASES, GUM THERE. I WISH THAT THERE WAS A WAY FOR STAFF TO SORT OF GIVE US A MORE COMPREHENSIVE AND COORDINATED ASSESSMENT ON WHAT THE IMPACT OF THESE CASES IS. HOW DOES THE LINE WHO STARTED LIKE OVERALL PLANNING AROUND ANTI-DISPLACEMENT AND I THINK, AND THAT WOULD JUST HELP US GUIDE OUR WORK. AND I KNOW IT WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL. SO, UH, THE, THE FIRST REQUEST WAS VERY CONCRETE. THE SECOND ONE, UM, I'M GOING TO TASK YOU WITH, WITH SENDING A SINGLE SENTENCE TO COMMISSIONER SHAW THAT CAN GO ONTO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, THAT ONE. UM, BUT DO WE HAVE A SECOND PERSON WHO IS INTERESTED IN BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS OR EITHER ONE OF THOSE ITEMS? SURE. YEAH. YEAH. FOR ME, THOSE ARE BOTH JUST THE SAME ITEMS. SO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YANAS QUITO, AND I KNOW, UM, I'M EAGER TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEW, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW IF THERE'S A WHOLE NEW, LIKE DISPLACEMENT, UM, ANTI-DISPLACEMENT, UH, GROUP OR DIVISION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHIN NACD. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE VERY INNER CITY IS MERGING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. UM, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CHANGE UPS AND STAFF HERE. UM, I THINK WE ARE ACTUALLY EXPECTING THE NACD REPORT THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON ON SEPTEMBER EIGHT, UM, AT THAT MEETING AND COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, THE, UM, YOU WERE OUT THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU HAD BEEN REQUESTING THE CLIMATE CHANGE ITEM. AND I THINK I WAS SUPPOSED TO, WHEN WE TALKED TO MENTIONED THAT, UM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, CAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THAT BURDEN ON THE NEW CHAIR. UM, BUT I THINK I FORGOT TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOU ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK THAT, UM, PUSHING SHAW, IF YOU CAN BE AWARE THAT THE CLIMATE CHANGE ITEM THAT COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT, UM, CHRISTIAN SENATOR WILL NOT BE HERE THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER. SO IF YOU CAN WORK WITH HIM ON SCHEDULING THAT IN OCTOBER, THAT I THINK W W UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BLOOD ON THE AGENDA AND I CAN WAIT, BUT, UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY IS SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER AN ADOPTED TOMORROW. I THINK THEY WERE GOING TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER. SO I WILL TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF IT CAN WAIT TILL OCTOBER AND MAYBE COMMISSIONER SHAW WILL FEEL UP TO DOING IT SEPTEMBER 8TH. IT'S THE FIRST MEETING, WE'LL SEE, UM, OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, MR. HEMPHILL. SO, UM, I THINK IT WAS A MEETING OR TWO AGO, UM, ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL LANDS CASE. UM, AND WE HAD HAD THAT CASE OVER, UM, NEAR THE ST ELMO DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. IT SOUNDED LIKE STAFF WAS CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP A REPORT ON, UM, THE LOSS OF INDUSTRIAL LAND AND, UM, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CITY. AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO GET A BRIEFING ON THEIR FINDINGS FROM THAT REPORT AND, UM, LEARN HOW WE SHOULD USE THAT IN OUR DECISIONS. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. SNYDER, I'M ADVISED THAT, UM, UH, STAFF IS GOING TO COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 29TH, UH, ON THAT ITEM. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE INDUSTRIAL REPORT? COMMISSIONER IS OURS A SECOND. UM, AND I THINK, UM, [03:35:02] I WOULD ADVISE COMMISSIONER SHAW AND HEMPEL THAT, UM, BERNIE COULD STAY ON OR COME BACK WHEN IT'S READY. I'M HOPING IT'S VERY SOON. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT. UM, WE'VE DISPOSED OF THE WORKING GROUP ON TRANSPORTATION ITEMS. AND I THINK, UM, MAYBE AFTER CONSULTING WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE CHAIRS, UM, THAT, UH, YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEIR OWN, SEE ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ONE QUESTION, THE NACD AGENDA ITEM YOU MENTIONED FOR SEPTEMBER IS THAT THE ONE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A LONG TIME AGO, WHERE IT WAS THE BRIEFING ON ALL THE TOOLS. OKAY. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, MAYBE SEPTEMBER 8TH IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. CAUSE THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL IS GETTING THE REPORT, UM, LET'S SEE. NOPE, WE'RE ON THE EIGHTH. OKAY. CAUSE I KNOW COUNCIL IS ALSO GETTING LIKE A STATUS REPORT ON AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKS AND SEVERAL OTHER PROGRAMS RIGHT AROUND THAT TIME. SO, UM, I THINK IT WORKS OUT PRETTY WELL FOR PC TO GET THE REPORT AROUND THAT TIME TOO. SO, UM, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO, UM, GET TO KNOW YOUR NACD, STAFFER LEADERSHIP, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. WHAT ABOUT REPORTS FROM [F. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES] JOINT, UH, COMMITTEES WORKING GROUPS HERE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I SHARED THAT OFTEN MONITORED TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION. ALL RIGHT. MR. ANDERSON, I THINK ONE THING WE HAD A JOINT CODES AND ORDINANCES CORRECT ABOUT IT. WE'RE INTO SUBCOMMITTEE OR JOINT COMMITTEE REPORTS. SO GO AHEAD. SURE. WE JUST HAD THE ONE ITEM THAT WE PASS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THAT WAS ALL GOTCHA. GREAT. UH, KOSHER SHADE. I SEE YOUR HAND. WE HAD A SMALLER PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING. UH, WE REVIEWED ONE OF THE PROJECTS IS, UH, THE ONE ON THE GOODWILL. ONE THAT WE PASSED TODAY. UM, IT WAS KIND OF A TOUCHY THING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING THROUGH SMALLER PLANT JOINT COMMITTEE, WE, WE GET THE WATERFRONT PROJECTS AND, UH, WHEN WE HAVE WATERFRONT PROJECTS, THE DIFFICULTY WE HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S KIND OF THAT HAD THAT BACKGROUND. AND, UM, I FOUND THAT A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE HOPING TO HAVE, UM, SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, BUT WE FOUND THE PROJECTS WERE GOING TO US BEFORE IT WENT TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONS. AND, UM, EVEN IF WE FELT LIKE WE COULD SUPPORT IT, UM, WE REALLY FELT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. SO WE ENDED UP POSTPONING THAT PROJECT AND, UH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HEAR IT AGAIN, BUT WE COULDN'T GET A QUORUM. UM, WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT WE WERE GONNA, UH, WE STARTED TO HEAR ON, BUT THEN, UH, THERE WAS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WE THOUGHT WE COULD EXTEND THE MEETING. AND IT ENDED UP THAT, UM, LOOKS LIKE THE CD OF AUSTIN AB OR WHATEVER THEY SAID, NO, WE GOTTA HAVE A HARD STOP THAT WE COULDN'T EVEN EXTEND THE MEETING EVEN TWO MINUTES OR FIVE MINUTES TO FINISH UP THE CASE. BUT THAT CASE ALSO DIDN'T GO TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION YET. AND IT WAS ANOTHER WATERFRONT OVERLAY. SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING A PATTERN HERE, UM, THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT WITH OUR, UH, STAFF LIAISON AND EVEN FOR OUR APPLICANTS TO, YOU KNOW, TO FEEL OUT. BUT IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING LEARNING EXPERIENCE ON THAT ONE. SO QUESTION, SHOULD, CAN I ASK YOU ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UM, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY CASES THAT, THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT I RECALL, UM, SO THERE MAY BE A BUNCH OF CON CONSENT THAT I DON'T REMEMBER. UM, REALLY WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS ALMOST AS MUCH ABOUT THE AESTHETICS OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE IN THE WATERFRONT AREA, AS MUCH AS IT IS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. CAUSE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN IT ACTUALLY AREN'T ON THE WATER. RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. UM, SO, UH, I MEAN, SO DO I MEAN, SO MY GUT FEEL WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BE CAUGHT TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT OR NOT, BUT, UM, EVEN IF THE CONDITION OR FELT THAT THEY LIKED THE PROJECT AND FELT THAT THEY COULD SUPPORT IT BY NOT HAVING, UM, THAT INPUT, IT WAS AN INCOMPLETE PICTURE. SO EVEN THE MERITS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN EVEN THE MERITS OF THE CASE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE WERE GOOD INTENT. THERE WERE GOOD, BUT IT CAME TO THIS ONE STICKING POINT. AND, UM, AND THE TOUGH THING WAS THAT THERE WAS TIME, THERE WAS TIME THAT WE COULD, THAT THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION [03:40:01] BEFORE US, BUT THEY FLIPPED IT. AND SO WE SAW THE OPPORTUNITY, WE SAID, OKAY, GO THERE FIRST. AND THEY COULD GO. AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BEFORE IT HIT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO WE THOUGHT IT COULD WORK, BUT ENDED UP, UM, THE STAFF LIAISON COULDN'T GET, UM, A CORE OF TOGETHER. SO THE PLAN WAS TO GET IT TO WORK, BUT IN THE END, SOMETHING CAME UP ON SCHEDULING AND, UH, WE, WE DIDN'T GET TO. OKAY. AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE SMALLER PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED OF COUNCIL BEFORE THAT WE WANTED SOMEBODY THAT HAD SOME EXPERTISE OF THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY AND ESPECIALLY A, UM, SOMEBODY WHO WAS EVEN ON THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY COMMISSION, UM, MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT TO, TO, TO BE ON IT OR EVEN IF, AND IF IT'S NOT AN APPOINTEE, EVEN AS A, YOU KNOW, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS A, AS A NONVOTING MEMBER OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT. SO WHEN THEY MERGED SMALL WATERFALL COMMISSION INTO SMALLER PLANT JOINT COMMITTEE, IT KIND OF MESSED UP THE DYNAMICS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN THE STAFFING OF THE EXPERTISE, UM, I FEEL GOOD COULD POTENTIALLY BE A LITTLE INADEQUATE. UM, AND MAYBE WE COULD HAVE GOT A VOTE OUT IF WE DID HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. MISTER HEMPEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, I MEAN, YOU WERE THERE TOO. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OR IS THAT ABOUT IT? YEAH, THAT WAS IT. IT SEEMS THAT THAT THE PATTERN IS, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE LIMITATION BEING REALLY DIFFICULT IN A LONG, LONG WATERFRONT OVERLAY TO ACHIEVE WITH URBAN SCIENCE AND, UM, YEAH, WITHOUT HAVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WAY IN MAY FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE MAKING A BEST GUESS, ARE THE NUMBERS SEEM SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY WITHOUT A LOT OF THE INFORMATION HERE. SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THOSE POINTS. UM, WE, I HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JOINTS SUSTAINABILITY IN HERE ANYMORE, FOR SURE. SCHNEIDER NOW I THINK WE'RE GOOD, UH, PLAN, UH, GETTING FINALIZED. YOU'LL SEE IT SOON. UH, AND OF COURSE, UH, ISSUES AROUND PLANNING ARE IMPORTANT COMPONENTS. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, ON JOINT COMP PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE HANDING OFF IS, UM, WE HAD, UH, DISCUSSED HERE AND THEN I DISCUSSED MORE EXTENSIVELY WITH THE, UH, PLANNING STAFF THAT, UM, THEY ARE, UH, THEMSELVES TAKING A LOOK THE SAME WAY THAT WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE WAY THAT THE LONG RANGE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS STRUCTURED. AND, UM, THE, UH, UH, AND THEN DOING SOME CRITICAL THINKING ABOUT THAT AND THINKING ABOUT WHEN THEY GET INPUT FROM THE COMMISSIONS, A DESTRUCTOR THINGS. CAUSE JUST AS A REMINDER, WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRADITIONALLY KIND OF COMING IN AND, AND FEBRUARY, APRIL, MARCH WHEN IT WAS PRETTY MUCH LOCKED IN. AND SO WE WERE KIND OF SAYING SOME STUFF IN A TRANSMITTAL MEMO AND SENDING IT ALONG, BUT IT REALLY WASN'T DOING ANYTHING. UH, SO WE TALKED ABOUT NOW THAT IT'S ON A TWO YEAR PROCESS, UM, TRYING TO GET SOME, SOME MORE, UH, BROAD, BIG PICTURE INPUT, UH, UH, AND MAYBE INPUT AT DIFFERENT STAGES. SO, UM, THE PLANNING STAFF, UH, WANTS TO COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, EARLY FALL AND HAVE SOME MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT KIND OF WHAT WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THE PROCESS AND HOW WE MIGHT FEEL VALUABLE. UM, SO THEY WILL BE COMING ALONG FOR THAT. AND, UM, IT'S IT, IT'LL, IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING AS WELL TO SEE IF, IF THE ABILITY BOND PASSES, UM, UH, I'M SORRY, THE MULTIMODAL MOBILITY BOND PADS OR TEXTURED ELECTION PASSES, UM, THAT, UH, THE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET COULD BECOME A LOT MORE IMPORTANT. UM, ESPECIALLY AS THE TAX RATE ELECTION SORT OF, UH, INSTEAD OF A BOND ELECTION. UM, SO, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMISSION AND, AND MAYBE THE MOBILITY WORKING GROUP, UM, ON THAT. SO THAT'LL BE COMING EARLY FALL. UM, ANY OTHER REPORTS HEARING NONE? UM, GUYS, IT'S REALLY BEEN A PLEASURE. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU. I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO. UM, BUT I DO SO YOU'LL BE BUILDING HOUSING. IT'S AWESOME. GOOD JOB. I'M SURE. WE'LL SEE AROUND BOTH OF Y'ALL. SO BE BACK FOR TOO LONG. ALL RIGHT. UNITE EVERYONE. THANK YOU GUYS. YOU GUYS . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.