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          BETTY BY COLLEAGUES TODAY IS TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021 TO CALL TO ORDER THE CITY OF BOSTON CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. 
          TODAY IS NEITHER SIX. 
          UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT. 
          UH, WE'RE HANDLING THIS MEETING, UH, VIRTUALLY, UH, TODAY, UH, COLLEAGUES. 
          WE HAVE A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE ON, UH, THE VIRUS, ONE ON CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, ONE ON, UM, THE VAGINA TREVIÑO, UH, PARK. 
          UH, MY HOPE IS TO GET ALL OF THOSE DONE BEFORE LUNCH. 
          IF AT ALL POSSIBLE WE HAVE A BUSY DAY TODAY. 
          UH, TAKE A LUNCH BREAK, UH, COME BACK AND DO A PULL ITEMS. UH, WE HAVE, UM, UH, NOT THAT SMALL LIST OF PULL THE ITEMS TODAY, UH, AND THEN TO GO INTO, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS TO BE DISCUSSED ON EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UH, WE HAVE AN ORDER FOR THOSE THINGS. 
          I THINK THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN ALSO ADDRESS ON THURSDAY BECAUSE IT'S ONLY NOTICED FOR TODAY THAT'S THE PERSONNEL MATTER. 
          SO IF WE ARE RUNNING LATE AND IT CAN ONLY DO ONE THING, UH, MAYBE WE TOUCH ON THE OTHERS, BUT, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT ONE, RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE BRIEFINGS FIRST, IF WE CAN DO PULLED ITEMS BEFORE LUNCH, WE WILL OTHERWISE WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH, COME BACK TO PULL ITEMS AND THEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          SO LET'S BEGIN THEN WITH 
          [B1. Update on Covid-19 related matters. (Standing staff update).]
THE BRIEFING, WE'LL START WITH THE COVID BRIEFING SO THAT DR. 
          ASCOT, UH, AND DIRECTOR HAYDEN CAN NOT GET OVER TO THE COUNTY, UH, WHERE THEY GO TO A MAYBE BUS, UM, MANAGER. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. 
          UH, THIS IS OUR STANDING BRIEFING ON COVID RELATED DEBT. 
          AND I'LL JUST NOTE BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO DR. 
          DIRECTOR HAYDEN AND DR. 
          ASCOT THAT SINCE WE LAST MET, UH, WE DID, UH, MARK A MILESTONE IN THIS ENDEAVOR, AND THAT WAS, UH, SIX MONTHS SINCE WE DECLARED THE LOCAL DISASTER AND SIX MONTHS SINCE WE HAD OUR FIRST COVID, UH, TESTS COME BACK POSITIVE OR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, DURING THAT TIME, WE'VE SEEN INCREDIBLE, UH, WORK FROM OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONTAINING THE SPREAD OF THE DISEASE. 
          UH, WE ARE SO THANKFUL AND APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYONE THAT'S WORKING ON IT, THE COLLABORATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR PARTNERS, UH, AND WE JUST NEED TO CONTINUE TO, UH, KEEP ADDICTS. 
          UH, WE CANNOT LET UP AND NOT LOSE OUR GOOD, OUTSTANDING, AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE TAKING THE PRECAUTIONS NECESSARY TO COMBAT THIS VIRUS. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HAYDEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU, SPENCER. 
          UM, I AGREE WITH SPENCER. 
          UM, WE HAVE HIT THE SIX MONTH MILESTONE WHEN WE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR FIRST POSITIVE CHASE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH STARTED DOING WORK IN, IN JANUARY. 
          UM, WE, WE WERE DOING SURVEILLANCE IN, UM, WORKING WITH THE AIRPORT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE COMING BACK IN FROM MAINLAND CHINA. 
          AND SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH STAFF, UM, BECAUSE THE PASSION THAT THE STAFF HAVE IN THIS SPACE IS JUST SO AMAZING. 
          UM, I HAVE A REALLY GOOD TEAM, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, DECADES OF EXPERIENCE IN WORKING IN INFECTIOUS DISEASE AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RELATIVELY NEW TO THE CITY, BUT HAVE REALLY STEPPED UP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REAL GOOD TEAM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, SAFETY MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND IN MAROTTA CITIES ACROSS THE NATION. 
          UM, AS I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, AS WELL AS THE NATION, UM, I THINK I'M JUST ONE OF THE MORE FORTUNATE ONES THAT HAS THE SUPPORT THAT I HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, AS A DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO WE ARE REALLY BLESSED. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THE SUPPORT. 
          UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC 
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HEALTH DOES AS A REMINDER, WHEN YOU HAVE AN, ANY LOCAL, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE UT DELL MEDICAL SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH COMMUNITY CARE TO THE ASSISTANCE WITH OUR KOBE WORK AND LET THOSE INCLUDE THE TESTING, THE CONTACT TRACY, UM, EACH OF THEM, UM, WE HAVE THE DATA FOR MORE THEIR POSITIVE CASES, AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE, UM, DOING CONTACT TRACING. 
          HOWEVER, EACH OF THEM, UM, HAVE DATA THAT THEY SHARE ON THEIR WEBSITES, WHICH PROVIDES A DAILY OR A WEEKLY UPDATE OF THE TESTING THAT HAPPENS IN THE CASES THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON. 
          AND SO THAT HAS BEEN A REALLY GREAT PARTNERSHIP. 
          UM, OUR STAFF CONTINUED TO, UM, WORK WITH THOSE TEAMS. AND SO OUR EPI TEAM HAS A DAILY MEETING WITH I'M A STAFF PERSON FROM  MAN. 
          AND THEN ON FRIDAYS, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY CONTACT TRACY, AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR PRIORITIES IN THAT AREA, LIKE ENSURE THAT, UM, WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE BILINGUAL, UM, THAT ARE WORKING, UM, DOING CONTACT TRACING AS WELL AS OUR NURSE LINE, UM, TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. 
          AND WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS WORK THROUGH AN EQUITY LENS WITHOUT WALK, WALK UPSIDES. 
          WE CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR DEV SPRINGS ARE GIBBONS AND WALNUT CREEK COMMUNITIES. 
          AND OUR DRIVE UP SITE, UM, TESTING A COMMUNITY AT ST. 
          JOHN'S COMMUNITY AT THE ST. 
          JOHN CENTER, NOT CENTER, I'M SORRY, AT THE ST. 
          JOHN LOCATION. 
          UM, EACH OF THOSE LOCATIONS ARE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE, UM, HIGH POSITIVITY IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. 
          WHEN YOU ARE ADDING, UM, ANOTHER SITE NEXT WEEK, WE WILL BE ADDING THE TOPLESS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, UM, SEPTEMBER 22ND. 
          THIS IS THE, UM, OLDER MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER. 
          AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING, UM, TESTING IN THAT COMMUNITY THREE DAYS A WEEK. 
          UM, SO THAT PRETTY MUCH ROUNDS ALL OF THE AREAS AT THOSE TESTING SITES. 
          UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, INDIVIDUALS CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND REGISTER, OR THEY CAN CALL OUR NURSE LINE TO REGISTER FOR APPOINTMENTS AT EITHER ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, AS WELL AS THE, AT HOME TESTING AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT TESTING AT HOME. 
          UM, WE ARE WITH OUR LONGTERM CARE, UM, INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, WE ARE SO EXCITED TO REPORT THAT THE NURSING HOME DATA DASHBOARD IS NOW ACTIVE. 
          UM, AND SO YOU CAN GO TO THAT SITE AND LOOK AT OUR, UM, OUR DATA FOR THE NURSING HOME SITES AND LONG TERM CARE SITES, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR YOU TODAY. 
          TESTING STRAIGHT TEAM SUPPORT THEM TPE. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, THERE CONTINUES TO BE A DECREASE, UM, FOR TESTING, UM, PPE AND STRIKE TEAMS IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, BEEN NOTIFIED THAT, UM, HELPING HIM IN SERVICES, UM, AS A PART OF THEIR PHASE ONE, UH, FACILITY, THIS NATION, THEY HAVE ISSUED NEW RULES, WHICH REQUIRE ONGOING TESTING OF STAFF AT NURSING FACILITIES, UM, AT A FREQUENCY THAT IS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY'S POSITIVITY RATE. 
          SO THEREFORE THERE MUST BE ADDITIONAL TESTING, UM, AT THESE FACILITIES THAT SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE OUT OTHERS HAVE, UM, MOVE FORWARD AND PUT SYSTEMS IN PLACE. 
          AND SO THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TESTING TO THEIR STAFF AT THOSE FACILITIES, WITH THE HOMELESS UPDATE, UM, WITH OUR FOOD ACCESS, THE EATING APART TOGETHER EAT INITIATIVE HAS PROVIDED OVER 450,000 MEALS TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. 
          AND SO, UM, THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE'VE HAD WITH REVELATIONS FOODS, AS WELL AS, UM, CENTRAL TEXAS FOOD BANK AND CISCO TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THIS FOOD IN ADDITION. 
          UM, BUT APARTMENT HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, TO ASSIST, UM, HOMELESS FOLKS THAT HAVE, UM, HAVE PETS. 
          AND SO, UM, WITHIN THIS INITIATIVE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, DOLPHIN FOR PETS AS WELL. 
          OUR STAFF HAVE CONTINUED TO, UH, PROVIDE THOSE REPORTS TO THAT SYSTEM, OUR, UM, HYGIENE SERVICES. 
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AND WE HAVE EIGHT SITES IN THE CITY THAT PROVIDE ACCESS TO SHOWERS AND TOILET WASHING STATIONS. 
          AND, UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. 
          AND WE CAN SEE THAT THERE WITH OUR, UM, OUR EDUCATION AND TRAINING, UM, ALSO PUBLIC HEALTH IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ECHO COMMUNITY CARE AND DELL MED IS PROVIDING ONGOING EDUCATION AND INFORMATION TO HOMELESS SHELTER AND OUTREACH STAFF THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, WE PROVIDED, UM, A TRAINING SEMINAR ON THE SEVENTH OF THIS MONTH WITH OUR, UM, PROTECTIVE LODGES. 
          THE DEPARTMENT LEFT WITH FEMA TO ADDRESS CONCERNS, UM, THAT THE PROTECTIVE LODGES ARE BEING PERCEIVED AS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER. 
          THESE ARE NOT EMERGENCY SHELTERS, AND THAT IS NOT HOW THE CITY IS USING. 
          NOW. 
          THE SERVICES ARE DESIGNED FOR HIGH RISK INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED THE CDC GUIDELINES. 
          AND SO WE ARE AVAILABLE, UM, TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO DISCUSS IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE MEETING WITH FEMA, THE SOCIAL SERVICES BRANCH, WE'RE CONTINUING WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CENTRAL HEALTH COMMUNITY CARE AND TRAVIS COUNTY PROTECT YOURSELF AND PROTECT YOUR FAMILY CAMPAIGN. 
          UM, WITH OUR, UM, PPE AND DISTRIBUTION, UM, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND SEE OUR SITES, UM, THIS WEEK. 
          UM, WE DO, WE WILL BE AT, UM, TOMORROW AT THE RUBY TODAY AT THE MEXICAN CONSULATE MOVIES LIBRARY AND GEORGE MORALES STUB SPRINGS, PROVIDING PPE. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT PPE, WHEN INDIVIDUALS COME THROUGH ALL OF OUR TESTING SITES, PROVIDE THEM PPE AS WELL AS INFORMATION ABOUT SERVICES THAT THEY CAN ACCESS IF THEY NEED TO, AS A REMINDER, ARISE, 2.0 APPLICATION SPOKEN YESTERDAY, UM, AND WILL BE OPEN SEPTEMBER 21ST AT 7:00 PM. 
          AND THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE. 
          OUR CHILDCARE AND SCHOOLS ARE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE TARGETED OUTREACH TO CHILDCARE CENTERS IN FIVE FOCUS CODES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE ON PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF COBY IN OUR EPIDEMIOLOGY. 
          AND IT TEAMS ARE FINALIZING AN ONLINE REPORTING FORM FOR SCHOOLS TO COMPLETE ON A WEEKLY BASIS. 
          WE YET CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE ADDED ADDITIONAL NURSES TO ASSIST WITH THE CALLS THAT WE ARE STARTING TO RECEIVE THOSE LINES AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE, UM, UM, WEBSITE, AS YOU KNOW, SO YOU COULD SEND INFORMATION TO US AT APH SCHOOL INFO AND AUSTIN, TEXAS DOT GIRL. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL, WE ARE CONTINUING TO DO ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT AT, UM, SEVERAL OF OUR FACILITIES, INCLUDING BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          I WILL TRANSITION OVER TO DR. 
          SCOTT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, SPENCER. 
          UH, IF I COULD ASK AMY TO PUT MY SLIDES, BUT I JUST WANT TO ECHO STEPHANIE'S SENTIMENTS REGARDING THE LAST SIX MONTHS WHEN WE REALLY DO HAVE AN INCREDIBLE TEAM AND CERTAINLY BLESSED TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR JOBS. 
          AUSTIN IS IN GREAT HANDS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO MAYOR COUNCIL, AGAIN, THE UPDATES REGARDING OUR COVID-19 SITUATION, THE CITY IN TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, THIS IS OUR GRAPH OF OUR NEW CONFIRMED CASES WITH TOGETHER BEING THE SEVEN DAY MOVING AVERAGE YESTERDAY, WE REPORTED 75 NEW CASES, WHICH PLACES ARE MOVING AVERAGE AT 105. 
          YOU CAN SEE FROM THE GRAPH THAT SAYS, SEPTEMBER 3RD, WE HAVE BEEN ON THE INCREASE SEPTEMBER 3RD, WE HAD A MOVING AVERAGE OR 69 TO 70. 
          AND AGAIN, NOW WE'RE AT 105, SO WE ARE NO LONGER PLATEAU, NO LONGER DECREASING, BUT, UH, INCREASING, UH, OVER THE PAST 11 BLADES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS THE GRAPH OF THE NEW ADMISSIONS THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING. 
          UH, OUR ADMISSIONS YESTERDAY WAS 11, WHICH PLACES A MOVING AVERAGE AT 14.9. 
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UH, THIS HAS BEEN A PLATEAU FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT, UH, THANKFULLY NOW DECREASING AGAIN. 
          UM, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT WHY WE'RE SEEING INCREASING CASES, BUT CONTINUE TO SEE SOME DECREASE IN ADMISSIONS, OR AT LEAST WE'RE THERE ABOUT WHY WE'RE SEEING THAT. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, OUR, OUR PRIMARY INDICATOR IN THE PAST HAS BEEN A NEW ADMISSIONS IN RELATION TO OUR COMMUNITY RISK AND STAGING. 
          UH, SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT WE CONTINUE TO SEE THAT DROP OUR HOSPITALS ARE IN A GREAT SITUATION, PLENTY OF ICU BEDS AND HOSPITAL BEDS AND VENTILATORS. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, FOLKS HAVE BEEN PUTTING OFF HERE, UH, PHYSICALS, CERTAINLY IMMUNIZATIONS, UH, PLEASE GO GET THOSE THINGS TAKEN CARE OF. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS THE WRAP OF OUR HOSPITALIZATIONS IN BLUE IN THE POEMS IS THE ICU BEDS BEING UTILIZED IN GRAY VENTILATORS. 
          UH, AGAIN, OUR HOSPITAL CAPACITY HAS, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, IMPROVING. 
          I WILL REFER TO THE TOTAL OF 93 HOSPITALIZATIONS YESTERDAY, WHICH HAS FLATTENED OUT A LITTLE BIT IN THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS THAT WE'VE GOT A MOVING AVERAGE OF 97.7, UH, ICU. 
          WE WERE PUTTING YESTERDAY 34 ICU BEDS BEING UTILIZED WITH A MOVING AVERAGE OF 37.4, AND WE'VE GOT 18 IC 18 VENTILATORS. 
          THEN YOU REALIZE THAT THE MOVING AVERAGE OF 22.9, AGAIN, THOSE TWO MEASURES CONTINUE AT THAT SLOW DECLINE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS AN UPDATE. 
          UM, OUR HOSPITALIZATIONS IN THE FIVE COUNTY MSA BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, UH, THE BRAIN THAT IS A LINE THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON FOR SOME TIME, WHICH IS OUR NEXT. 
          SO THOSE IDENTIFIED AS HISPANIC, UH, WHEN NEAR ADMISSION TO THE HOSPITAL, UH, LAST WEEK WE REPORTED 43.3%, UH, OF THE ADMISSIONS FOR IN THAT GROUP THIS WEEK. 
          IT'S 43.8%, A SLIGHT INCREASE, BUT RELATIVELY FLAT, UH, SIMILARLY OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN, UH, POPULATION IN GRAY, WHICH IS THE THIRD LINE FROM THE TOP, UH, IS A 12.5% OF ADMISSIONS THIS WEEK AND 12.5% OF ADMISSIONS LAST WEEK. 
          UH, WE DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IF YOU SEE IN THE, UH, TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, THE ORANGE, WHICH IS OUR ASIAN AMERICAN, UH, POPULATION HOSPITALIZED INCREASED FROM 0.8%, 4.2% OF THE TOTAL INDIVIDUALS BEING HOSPITALIZED IN THE PAST SEVEN DAYS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS A GRAPH OF OUR, UH, HOSPITALIZATIONS BY AGE GROUP. 
          UH, WE HAVE SEEN A DECREASE IN OUR, OUR OLDER AGE GROUP AND SUDDENLY A 79 AND 80 BUS, UH, WHICH WE'RE THANKFUL FOR. 
          I WILL POINT OUT THE GRAY LINE, A THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS OUR 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP, UH, WHICH, UH, IS 5.8% OF THE HOSPITALIZATIONS THIS WEEK, 6.1% LAST WEEK, UH, THAT REPRESENTS SIX INDIVIDUALS, UH, IN THAT AGE GROUP THAT WERE HOSPITALIZED IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS. 
          UH, AND, UH, I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR AGE GROUP HERE IN A MOMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, SO THIS GRAPH IS SHOWING THE, UH, TOTAL POSITIVITY BY WEEK. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TESTING ENTITIES, UH, WITH MORE THAN 275,000 TEST RESULTS ENTERED INTO THIS DATABASE. 
          UH, LAST WEEK I REPORTED WEEK 34 WEEK 35. 
          UH, IF YOU WERE CALL A WEEK 35 LEVELS REPORT AT 4.6%, UH, THAT HAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY TO 4.7% WITH ADDITIONAL TEST RESULTS COMING IN A WEEK 36, WHICH IS THE NEW WEEK, UH, IS 4.8%. 
          SO RELATIVELY FLAT AGAIN, WEEK 30, THREE AND 34 FLAT AT 6.1, WAIT 35 WEEKS 36, RELATIVELY FLAT 4.7 4.8. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF POSITIVITY BY RACE AND ETHNICITY. 
          AGAIN, THE, UH, THE RED DOTTED LINE IS THAT 5% MARK LIKE TO GET EVERYBODY UNDER A I'M SHOWING YOU HERE WEEK 34, THREE WEEKS 37. 
          UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE, THE GRAY LINE ARE HISPANIC OR LATIN NEXT COMMUNITY, UH, HAS HAD A PROGRESSIVE DECREASE, UH, LET DECREASES, SLOW THEM DOWN. 
          UH, THAT WAS ABOUT 9.3% FOR WEEK 37 AND WEEK 36, BOTH. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE WANT TO PUSH THAT AND BELOW THAT 5% LINE, 
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UH, AND THE GOLD COLOR IS OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION, WHICH IS UNDER 5% AT THIS STAGE. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO SAY MAPPER TEZ DIRECTOR HAYDEN MENTIONED, UH, TARGETED, UH, FOCUSED EFFORTS IN, IN COMMUNITIES OF HIGH POSITIVITY, UH, WHICH ALSO TEND TO BE COMMUNITIES, UH, CAN OF COLOR. 
          UH, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THESE ONGOING EFFORTS, UH, THESE EFFORTS BY OUR PARTNERS, UH, AT COMMUNITY CARE, AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, FROM THE NONPROFIT AGENCIES, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH THESE, UH, CONSTITUTE RATES DOWN. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AMERICAN COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS A, A GRAPH OF THE BY AGE GROUP. 
          UH, THE GOLD BAR IS REPRESENTED AT 10 TO 19 YEAR OLD AGE GROUP. 
          UH, AND YOU CAN SEE UNLIKE THE OTHER AGE GROUPS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY DECREASING IN POSITIVITY, THAT AGE GROUP IS INCREASING EACH WEEK AND POSITIVELY, UH, WHERE THEY SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, UH, RATE OF POSITIVITY AS COMPARED TO EVERY OTHER GROUP. 
          AND MOST GROUPS ARE, ARE IN THE 5% RANGE OF LESS. 
          UH, THE, UH, THE TENDONITIS AGE GROUP IS, IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          UH, SO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, UH, 12 TO 14% OVER THE PAST 10 WEEKS, UM, SO AGAIN, AS WE SEE PEOPLE GETTING INFECTIONS, OUR CASE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO INCREASE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF HOSPITALIZATION BEING SO MUCH LESS DRAMATICALLY LESS IN THOSE AGE GROUPS, AS COMPARED TO OLDER ADULTS, WE CAN SEE THAT INCREASING CASES, BUT WE WILL NOT EXPECT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS, ICU, ADMISSIONS, AND VENTILATOR USE. 
          UH, BUT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DISEASE DOES NOT SPREAD BEYOND THOSE AGE GROUPS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR, OUR SCHOOL STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY OUR HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT CAN BE REALLY FOCUSED ON ALL THOSE EFFORTS, THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING AND PERSONAL HYGIENE THAT IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT WHEN THEY'RE AROUND ADULTS, UH, TO GIVE YOU SOME, SOME PERSPECTIVE, AND WE ARE WORKING ON SOME ADDITIONAL DATA, BUT THAT CAN BE SHARED PUBLICLY RELATED TO RATES WITHIN THAT 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP. 
          BUT I'LL GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS NOW, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING THIS IS ALL COLLEGE STUDENTS AND THE COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE PLAYING A SIGNIFICANT ROLE. 
          AND IN THE POSITIVITY IN THAT 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP IS MOBILE. 
          SO 20 TO 29 AGE GROUP, UH, AND, UH, UT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF SHARING THEIR INFORMATION PUBLICLY ON A COVID-19 DASHBOARD. 
          LOOK AT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN HAND OUR, UH, POSITIVITY RATE FOR OUR POWERED STUDENTS LAST WEEK, WEEK 37, UH, OR WEEK 36 WAS 9.4%. 
          THAT'S OUT OF 235 INDIVIDUALS TESTED. 
          UM, OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, HOWEVER ARE 13% POSITIVE, UH, BUT MUCH LESS, A LITTLE MORE TESTED, 107 MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, 5.6% 36 TESTED IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS, 1.5% WITH 48 TESTS. 
          UH, AND THOSE ARE TESTED THAT WE HAVE RESULTS FOR, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS LAST WEEK, THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE SOME RESULTS THAT ARE GOING TO ROLL INTO US. 
          UM, BUT RIGHT NOW OUR HIGHEST TRANSMISSION WITHIN THAT 10 TO 1980 GROUP HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, NUMBER ONE, COLLEGE STUDENTS, NUMBER TWO. 
          UH, BUT AGAIN, UH, WE'RE ASKING THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE TO, UH, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, TO BE LEADERS, UH, TO ADVOCATE FOR, FOR SAFETY AND IN PARTICULAR AVOIDING LARGE GATHERINGS WHERE WE KNOW THAT THESE, UH, THESE DISEASES ARE TRANSMITTED X CYCLES, THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS IS JUST AN OVERLAY. 
          I SHOWED THIS TO YOU SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. 
          THIS IS UPDATED WITH THREE MEASURES. 
          THE BALLOON WAS THE NEW CASES PER 100,000 POPULATION IN TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          UH, THE ORANGE IS A SEVEN DAY MOVING AVERAGE OF NEW ADMISSIONS AND THE GRAY DOTS ARE THE PERCENT POSITIVITY OVERLAID ON THE SAME TIMELINE I'VE INDICATED, UH, WITH A RUN ARROW APPROXIMATELY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT ISSUED, UH, THE STATEWIDE MANDATE. 
          UH, IF YOU RECALL, IN THE WEEKS LEADING UP TO THAT, UH, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT ADVOCACY FROM, UH, FROM THE MAYOR AND HIS COUNCIL, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, AS, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH ENTITIES AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF MASKING IN REQUESTING 
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THAT MANDATE. 
          UH, WE CAN SEE THAT, UH, VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS INCREASED AND THAT MANDATE WAS PARADED, THAT WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE IN CASES, UH, IN TERMS OF POSITIVITY, AS WELL AS NEW CASES OF HOSPITALIZATIONS. 
          UH, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ALSO, IF YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THAT SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE OUR POSITIVITY NUMBERS IN GRAY, UH, PLATEAU OFF FOR TWO WEEKS, UH, DROPPED DOWN AND PLATEAU OFF AGAIN FOR TWO WEEKS AT 6.1%, UH, FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          AND WE WERE 4.7 4.8% FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          UH, IF WE FOLLOW THE SAME PATTERN THAT WE SEE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS, UH, WE CAN EXPECT THAT WE'LL SEE A DECLINE IN A PLATEAU AGAIN, UH, AS WE SAW IT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS PRIOR TO THE ONSET OF, UH, LAST WEEK. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WATCHING THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL DETERMINING, UH, HOW PREDICTIVE THIS POSITIVITY RATE IS IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON HOSPITALIZATIONS. 
          AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE UPDATES ON THIS GRAPH DOCTOR WHILE YOU HAVE THAT GRAPH UP, JUST TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN DISCUSSIONS, UH, WHEN SOMEBODY IMPLEMENTS A NEW POLICY, WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE AN IMPACT IN ADMISSIONS ABOUT THREE WEEKS LATER, ABOUT 21 DAYS. 
          SO THIS CHART SHOWS US IS THAT THE, THE, THE INITIAL ARRESTING OF THE PEAK AS IT WAS GOING UP, IT WAS NOT THE GOVERNOR'S ACTION. 
          IT WAS THE ACTION THAT CITIES ACROSS THE STATE TOOK PRIOR TO THE ACTION. 
          CERTAINLY THE GOVERNOR'S ACTION MUCH APPRECIATED THE GOVERNOR, MAKING IT MANDATING CERTAINLY HELPS GET THAT MESSAGE, BUT I SURE APPRECIATIVE OF MAYORS AND COUNTY JUDGES ACROSS THE STATE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT EARLIER, UH, AND, AND KIND OF BRINGING THE GOVERNOR ALONG, UH, TO, TO, TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AND TO STOP THAT PEAK FROM GOING UP. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          UH, AS YOU SAID, IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST A TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO REALLY SEE THE IMPACT ON HOSPITALIZATIONS, AND THAT'S WHY THEY, UH, THAT INCREASING DISCUSSION THAT INCREASING, UH, DIALOGUE WITH THE STATE IN, WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AROUND THE IMPORTANCE OF MASKING LEADING UP TO THE GOVERNOR'S DECISION IS, UH, UH, IS LIKELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INITIAL BROUGHTON OF THAT PETE. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO ALSO WANT TO REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF A COMMUNITY, UH, OF CITY STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF, OF MASKING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
          AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SEE INCREASED PRESSURE TO RELAX THESE RESTRICTIONS, UH, THESE PROTECTIVE ACTIONS AS THE SITUATION CONTINUES TO IMPROVE, UH, THE DEBATE REGARDING UTILITY OF MASKING WILL CONTINUE TO RAGE ON DESPITE, UH, EVIDENCE SUCH AS THIS, WHICH CERTAINLY CORRELATES WITH, WITH A BLUNTING EFFECT AND, UH, AND A SUBSEQUENT DECREASE IN CASES. 
          UH, THIS IS THE EFFECT OF THE TREATMENT. 
          THE TREATMENT HAS MASKING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING IN THE HYGIENE PRACTICES. 
          IF WE TAKE AWAY THAT TREATMENT, THE DISEASE WILL RETURN JUST LIKE THEM TO STOP TAKING OUR BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE OR OUR SEIZURE MEDICINE OR OTHER KINDS OF MEDICINES. 
          UH, IT'S NOT GONE, IT'S SORT OF AROUND. 
          AND, UH, AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THIS UNIFIED MESSAGE, UH, AT ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENT, SO THAT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE. 
          SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AS DIRECTOR HAYDEN SAID THAT THERE'S A MOVE COVID-19 LONG TERM CARE FACILITY DASHBOARD. 
          SO IF YOU GO TO THE MAIN AUSTIN, TEXAS DOT BOARD SLASH COVID-19 PAGE, THERE'S A BUTTON FOR DASHBOARDS, AND THIS IS ALL IN THERE. 
          AS YOU SAID, IT SHOWS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEASURES. 
          INDIVIDUALS CAN CLICK ON A FACILITIES AND FIND OUT, UH, UH, THE DISEASE TRENDS CASES IN TERMS OF RESIDENTS AND IN STAFF CASES, AS WELL AS AN OVERALL PICTURE. 
          I SAW ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO UTILIZE THAT SITE. 
          I WILL NOT BE PROVIDING UPDATES, UH, DURING COUNCIL SESSION WITH THE NURSING HOME, UH, SPREADSHEET THAT I NORMALLY DO, BECAUSE THIS IS MUCH BETTER. 
          UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UM, TO POINT THAT TO FOLKS AND THAT'LL BE UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          SO MY POST CAN GET THE TRENDS. 
          NEXT SLIDE COMES, MAYOR COUNCIL, IF YOU PERMIT ME, UH, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT 
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TWO THINGS, WHICH, UH, ARE CONSISTENTLY COMING UP IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS. 
          NUMBER ONE IS AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION OF COVID-19 AND WHAT ROLE IT PLAYS AND THE OTHERS IS COVID-19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA CALL IT A JOURNAL CLUB BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT IN, IN, IN MEDICAL SCHOOL, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME RESEARCH AND, AND, AND HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, SO AS FOLKS ARE, ARE, ARE FAMILIAR WITH THERE'S THIS ONGOING DISCUSSION ABOUT AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IN TERMS OF COVID-19. 
          UH, AND A LOT OF THIS IS BASED UPON THIS STUDY, WHICH WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE. 
          THE REFERENCES IS THERE ON THE SCREEN, WHICH SHOWED THAT, THAT IN A LAB SETTING A SAMPLE WITH INTACT VIRUS WHEN INTRODUCED VIA JET NEBULIZER, BASICALLY, UH, SHOOTING AIR THROUGH THE LIQUID TO CREATE AN AEROSOL CAN CREATE AN AEROSOL. 
          THEIR VIRUS INTACCT COULD BE SAMPLED FOR UP TO THREE HOURS IN THIS STUDY. 
          UM, IT'S THREE HOURS, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE DURATION OF THE EXPERIMENT. 
          THEY PUT SOME SUBSEQUENT STUDIES INDICATE THAT IT MAY BE LONGER THAN THAT UP TO 16 HOURS. 
          UH, BUT THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL SETTING TRYING TO CREATE AEROSOL OF THE VIRUS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STUDIES. 
          THERE'S SIX STUDIES HERE, WHICH SHOWS THAT WOMEN SANDBORN IS DONE IN SETTINGS, SUCH AS A MEDICAL CENTER, A PATIENT'S ROOM WITH COVID-19, YOU CAN DETECT VIRAL RNA, YOU CAN SAMPLE IT, YOU THINK IT TO THE PCR LAB, AND YOU CAN DETECT IT. 
          THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING ABLE TO DETECT A VIRUS AND THAT VIRUS BEING ABLE TO TRANSMIT DISEASE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, I THINK EIGHT ADDITIONAL STUDIES, WHICH DO AIR SAMPLING IN SIMILAR SETTINGS. 
          UH, THIS MAY BE, UH, BATHROOMS THAT MAY BE HOSPITAL ROOMS. IT MAY BE CRUISE SHIPS WITH, WITH ACTIVE TRANSMISSION OF DISEASE, BUT DID NOT FIND VIRUS IN AIR SAMPLING THAT WAS CAPABLE OF TRANSMITTING DISEASE. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE CONFLICTING EVIDENCE. 
          WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT WE CAN CREATE AN AEROSOL IN THE LABORATORY SETTING, WHICH HAS INTACT VIRUS. 
          WE'VE GOT A GROUP OF STUDIES SHOWING THAT YOU CAN DETECT SOME ASPECT OF THAT VIRAL RNA IN THIS GROUP OF STUDIES, WHICH SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? WE USE THE TAKE CARE OF FONTS REGARDING AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION. 
          UH, SO IT'S SHOWN THAT IT'S POSSIBLE IN A LAB SETTING TO AEROSOLIZE OR REGULARIZE COVID-19 ENOUGH, SMELL ENOUGH PARTICLES TO WHERE IT CAN STAY SUSPENDED IN THE AIR FOR A DURATION OF TIME. 
          UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT SETTINGS, ACTUAL SETTINGS, PATIENT WOUNDS, FRIENDSHIPS, ET CETERA, WE DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT VERSUS VIRUS THERE, BUT IS INTACT AND ENDED UP QUANTITIES MAY INTO SIGNIFICANT TRANSMISSION OF DISEASE. 
          SO THE CONCLUSION AT THIS STAGE, UH, AND THIS IS NOT JUST DR. SCOTT, THIS IS THE WHL AND, AND OTHER ENTITIES IS THAT AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IS A POSSIBLE ROUTE OF TRANSMISSION, BUT IT'S UNLIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR TO THE SPREAD OF COVID-19. 
          UH, SO THE PRIMARY METHOD IS DROPLET. 
          UH, JUST LIKE IT'S BEEN ALL ALONG. 
          UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THAT, BUT IT MAY BE ON SMALLER PARTICLES AND TRAVEL A SHORT DISTANCE DISTANCE OF TIME. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO USE CAUTION IN CONFINED SPACES, INDOOR SPACES, UH, WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT'S POORLY VENTILATED AND YOU'RE TOGETHER FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT SETTING, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THE AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IS, IS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR. 
          NOW, THIS IS ALSO REFLECTED IN THE NATIONAL ACADEMY'S PUBLICATION REGARDING SCHOOLS, WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF AIR VENTILATION, AS SOMETHING YOU TELL US YOU CAN DO, IF YOU, IF YOU'VE DONE THE OTHER PROTECTIVE MEASURES, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE KEY TO DECREASING TRANSMISSION, THE PHYSICAL 
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DISTANCING, THE HAND HYGIENE AND THE MASKING ARE THE KEYS. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN FROM, UH, FROM TEACHERS AND OTHER WORKERS REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION. 
          UH, IF FOLKS, WHETHER A MASS, IF THEY KEEP THEIR DISTANCE, IF THEY'RE WASHING THEIR HANDS. 
          AND, AND CERTAINLY IF THEY'RE STAYING HOME WITH THEY'RE SICK, UH, AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IS UNLIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN THIS SORT OF DISEASE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, SO PLASMA, WE CERTAINLY SEE A LOT OF DEBATE ON THIS ISSUE ALSO. 
          UH, SO, UM, I'VE DONE A PROTOCOL ON THIS AS WELL. 
          UH, SO ARE WE, WE'VE BEEN USING IT HERE IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS. 
          UH, WE HAD ONE OF THE FIRST BLOOD BANKS SET, UH, WITH PACKAGED THIS DATA AVAILABLE FOR, UH, FOR YOU TO SIT IN THE HOSPITAL. 
          UH, SO THIS IS A STUDY WHICH WAS PUBLISHED BY THE MAYO CLINIC. 
          AND IN THIS STUDY, THEY HAD MORE THAN 35,000 PATIENTS. 
          53% WERE IN THE ICU, 27.5% OF THEM ON A VENTILATOR. 
          SO TWO KEY FINDINGS, UH, ON THIS STUDY, UH, IT'S NOT A RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIAL, BUT IT'S A BIG STUDY AND THERE'S A LOT TO LEARN. 
          NUMBER ONE, IF A PATIENT RECEIVED THAT CONVALESCENT PLASMA IN THREE DAYS OR LESS, THEY HAD A 37% LOWER SEVEN DAY MORTALITY RATE AS COMPARED TO THOSE, GOT IT, FOUR DAYS OR AFTER. 
          SO THAT'S A RELATIVE RISK REDUCTION, 8.7% VERSUS 11.9%. 
          THE SAME FINDINGS WERE TRUTHFUL OR 30 DAY MORTALITY RATES WERE THAT BENEFIT WAS A 24% DECREASE IN MORTALITY IMPORTANT. 
          FINDING NUMBER TWO IS THAT THERE'S A DOSE RESPONSE RELATIONSHIP FOR BOTH SEVEN DAY MORTALITY AND 30 DAY MORTALITY, MEANING PROGRESSIVELY HIGHER DOSES, A CONVALESCENT PLASMA EQUATE TO PROGRESSIVELY INCREASE IN PROTECTION OR DECREASING MORTALITY RISK. 
          AND AGAIN, A 8.9, FOR THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE HIGHEST DOSES VERSUS 13.7, FOR THOSE WHO RECEIVED THE LOWEST, UH, IN SOME OTHER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 30 DAY MORTALITY, WHEN YOU TAKE THESE THINGS IN COMBINATION COMPARING THOSE WHO RECEIVE I, UH, ANTIBODY DOSES, AND IN THREE DAYS OR LESS, THEY HAD A 20% RATE OF MORTALITY OVER 30 DAYS AS COMPARED TO 30%. 
          AND THOSE WHO HAD THE LOWEST DOSE OF A CONVALESCENT PLASMA THAT WERE AFTER THE, UH, UH, FOUR DAYS OR AFTER. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN MORTALITY BASED UPON THOSE THINGS. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO SOME CONTROVERSY WAS BROUGHT UP WITH THIS STUDY, UH, IN THAT, IN THE REFERENCES IS LOCATED ON THE SCREEN THERE. 
          SO THE GOAL OF THIS STUDY WAS TO BE A RANDOMIZED TRIAL WHO ASSESSED 60 DAY MORTALITY OF CONVALESCENT PLASMA VERSUS STANDARD CARE. 
          UH, THEY PLAN TO ENROLL MORE THAN 400 PATIENTS. 
          THEY RUN 86 AND THEY HALTED THE STUDY BECAUSE WHAT THEY FOUND IS BY THE TIME THE PATIENTS RANDOMIZED THE ANTIBODY TITER THEY HAD IN THEIR BLOOD, IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE ANTIBODIES AVAILABLE, GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED. 
          AND THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS NOT MUCH POINT IN GIVING SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY HAS ANTIBODIES ANTIBODIES OF, OF A SIMILAR MAGNITUDE, BUT THE PATIENTS WERE RANDOMIZED AT A MEETING OF 10 DAYS SINCE THE ONSET OF THEIR SYMPTOMS. SO AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T REALLY TELL US THAT MUCH. 
          THERE WAS OBVIOUSLY NO MORTALITY BENEFIT AND, AND, UH, UH, BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO ROLL A 400 AND SO FORTH PATIENTS. 
          UH, SO MR. REALLY DOESN'T TELL US ANY MARGIN. 
          IT'S NOT, UH, NOT ENOUGH FOR US TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE PRACTICE OF ADMINISTERING COVID-19 PLASMS TO OUR PATIENTS HERE IN AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO TAKE HOME POINTS FOR THIS, UH, CLINIC STUDY SHOWS WHAT THE CONVALESCENT CLASS WAS PROMISING EARLIER. 
          ADMINISTRATION INFERENCE BENEFITS. 
          IT HAS AN INCREASED MORTALITY BENEFIT, PROGRESSIVELY HIGHER DOSES. 
          IT PROGRESSIVE BETTER, UH, REDUCTIONS IN MORTALITY. 
          UH, BUT WE DO NEED TO STILL HAVE RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS. 
          UH, SO THE MAYO CLINIC STUDIES THE INITIAL STUDY, 
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UH, TO SEE IF IT'S, IT'S GOT INDICATORS OF BENEFIT, IT COMES TO RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE WHO ARE THE PATIENTS WHO ARE MOST LIKELY TO BENEFIT. 
          WHAT'S THE OPTIMAL TIMING OF ADMINISTRATION, AND WHAT'S THE OPTIMAL DOSING OF THE CONVALESCENT PLASMA. 
          THESE THINGS STILL NEED TO BE DONE, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD PUT THE BRAKES ON, ON CONGRESS AND PLASMA THERAPY, UH, INCLUDING ENCOURAGING DONATION, INCLUDING STORAGE OF THE SUPPLIES. 
          UH, SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO, UH, TO UTILIZE THAT IN THE CLINICAL PRACTICE, UH, AND WHEN WE INCREASE OUR, OUR PREPARATION OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO SCREEN PEOPLE, UH, BEING ABLE TO INCREASE OUR COLLECTION AND INCREASE OUR STORAGE OF COVID 19 CONVALESCENT PLASMA, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AS THE FOUNDER, THE MAYOR COUNCIL, WE'RE STILL AT STAGE THREE, AGAIN, TO GET INTO STAGE TWO, WE NEED TO BE LESS THAN 10 ON THAT SUDDENLY MOVING AVERAGE OF ADMISSIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'D LIKE TO BE BIRTHED 3% IN TERMS OF OUR POSITIVITY RATE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST DISCUSS CHANGES IN POLICY AS WE GET TO STAGE TWO, WHICH WE'RE WORKING ON AS DIRECTOR HAYDEN SAID EARLIER, IN RELATION TO OUR PROTECTIVE LODGES, UH, THOSE ARE MEANT TO PROTECT PEOPLE DURING A SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY TRANSMISSION OF COVID-19, AS WE MOVE TO BETTER STAGES OF RISK, AND THAT TRANSMISSION IS CONTROL, BUT WE MAY NEED TO ALTER OUR POLICIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROTECTIVE LODGES, WHICH MAY NOT BE NECESSARY IN THESE LOWER STAGES OF, UH, OF, OF RISK IN TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          UH, WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO YOU, MAYOR DR. 
          I SCOTT, THANK YOU. 
          AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO YOUR STAFF AND DIRECTOR HAYDEN, UH, TO YOURS. 
          IT'S REALLY ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE NUMBERS GO DOWN THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE. 
          UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, THAT PRESENTS POSSIBLE RISK FACTORS TO US THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE YET TO WORK THROUGH OUR SYSTEM. 
          UH, THAT WOULD BE A LABOR DAY, UH, WHETHER WE WOULD SEE THAT IT WOULD BE THE UT FOOTBALL GAME, POTENTIALLY STUDENTS COMING BACK, THE THOUSAND PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE LAYING THE HURRICANE, UH, THAT PASSED THROUGH OUR, OUR CITY. 
          UH, WE SAT AND SEEN AN INCREASE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS YET, BUT THAT'S THE CASE NUMBER C GOING UP A LITTLE BIT, ALTHOUGH IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WEIGHTED TOWARD YOUNGER PEOPLE THAT HOPEFULLY ARE NOT GOING TO END UP IN HOSPITALS, BUT OUR JUSTICE CONTAGIOUS FOR SENDING SOMEBODY ELSE TO THE HOSPITAL, UH, AS ANYONE ELSE. 
          SO WE SEE CASES BEGINNING TO GO UP YET, COMMUNITY NEEDS TO STAY REAL CAUTIOUS IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DRIVE THE POSITIVITY RATES DOWN FARTHER. 
          SO WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF OPENING UP AND SUSTAINING BOTH SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WORK. 
          I ALSO WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR, HAYDEN ON MANAGING TO AVOID OUTBREAKS AMONG, UH, OUR POPULATION COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND TALKING TO MY PEERS MAYORS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT HAS OFTEN A CRITICAL AREA OF, OF KIND OF FAILURE IN THEIR SYSTEM. 
          SO WHATEVER IT WAS THAT YOU GUYS WERE DOING TO, TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, WORKED. 
          UH, SO I'M JUST REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU DID WHATEVER IT WAS THAT YOU DID, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT ON TOP OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH, LIKE IN NURSING HOMES AND, AND THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THE, IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, WE HAVEN'T HAD A, YOU WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AND ARREST AN ISOLATE EARLY, UH, CLUSTERS OF BREAKOUTS. 
          WE HAVE. 
          SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR THAT WORK AND, AND WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          AND I HAD MY CALL TO YOURS AND, UH, RECTOR, HEY, TO SEND TO THE CITY MANAGERS FOR PEOPLE TO STAY DILIGENT ON THIS, THAT CHART, YOU HAVE SHOWS THE IMPACT OF MASKING AND WHY THAT'S STILL A DISCUSSION ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY ABOUT WHETHER MASKING HELPS OR NOT. 
          IT'S JUST BEYOND ME, UH, COLLEAGUES, UH, QUESTIONS FOR 'EM, UH, OUR PUBLIC HEALTH FOLKS, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU BOTH FOR GETTING THE, UM, DASHBOARD, UH, RELATED TO, UM, 
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OUR LONGTERM CARE FACILITIES. 
          THAT'S, UM, REALLY, UH, USEFUL INFORMATION AND THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE. 
          SO, UM, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR AWHILE, AND I CONSIDER THAT TO BE A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT AND, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND IT WILL BE UPDATED ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VERY HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING AND ALSO DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE INDIVIDUAL FACILITIES. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN, THANK YOU PROBABLY TO THE ELSE BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT BRIEFING, UM, UH, COUNCILOR METOVA AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER. 
          THANKS SO MUCH. 
          UM, I WANTED TO JUST, EXCUSE ME, BRIEFLY SAY THANK YOU FOR THE TREMENDOUS WORK. 
          UM, I WANTED TO ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FOOD, OUR FOOD PROGRAMS. I WAS REALLY PLEASED TO SEE. 
          UM, WELL, LET ME JUST ASK, UM, WHETHER THERE'S AN UPDATE TO THE CAREGIVER MEALS, QUESTION OF FUNDING, I RECEIVED WORD YESTERDAY THAT THERE MIGHT BE, AND JUST WANTED TO, TO ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          IF ANYONE ON THE CALL HAS THAT INFORMATION. 
          I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE IN THAT SPACE. 
          I'VE NOT RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION ABOUT US HAVING ADDITIONAL FUNDING, SO I HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE BOATS AT OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I WANTED TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT HOW WE ARE FUNDING, HOW WE ARE SUPPLYING MEALS TO, FOR LODGES. 
          UM, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE BEEN PRIMARILY HANDLED THROUGH LARGE CONTRACTS. 
          UM, AND I WONDER IF WE MIGHT REGARD THOSE PRO LODGES AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAVE, HAVE, UH, SOME SUPPORT FOR OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES SO THAT IT COULD BE BOTH THEY UNNECESSARY, BASIC NEEDS, UM, PROGRAM AS WELL AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ONE. 
          AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE EXPLORED, I JUST WANT TO JUST SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. 
          I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SOME RESTAURANTS AND ALL ALONG. 
          THEY PROPOSE THESE KINDS OF CONGLOMERATIONS OF LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO HELP MEET THE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR FOOD AT THE SAME TIME, HELPING KEEP THEIR EMPLOYEES ON THE PAYROLL AND, YOU KNOW, HELPING KEEP THEIR FAMILIES. 
          SO IS THAT A, IS THAT A MODEL? YEAH, WE CAN, YES. 
          WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THAT AND LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, UM, THAT HAS BEEN A VERY, UM, BENEFICIAL MODEL TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND WE CAN KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, DEFINITELY WANT TO BRING THE PURCHASING FOLKS TO THE TABLE TO BE A PART OF THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY TYPICALLY HELP US OUT, UM, WITH THE KIND OF MEAL PROVISION. 
          UM, I'M FAMILIAR. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION AND PERHAPS THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOME OF IT INTO OUR CONVERSATION AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CABINET TOMORROW. 
          UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE WAY IT'S WORKED VERY SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THE SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THROUGH THE CAREGIVER MEALS. 
          I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT'S BEING UTILIZED WIDELY. 
          IT MAY BE UTILIZED IN ONE CASE WITH REGARD TO THE PROLOGIS, BUT I'M NOT. 
          I SEE THAT AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO, TO USE THIS MODEL OF EMPLOYING OUR LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO HELP MEET THAT NEED THAT WE'RE SUPPLYING AT THOSE PRO LODGES. 
          AND SO I WELCOME. 
          I WELCOME THAT CONVERSATION, DIRECTOR HAYDEN. 
          I WONDER IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO US ABOUT WHETHER UT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATION AND, AND UT IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THEIR STUDENTS AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE STATUS OF, OF CASES. 
          I KNOW WE'VE ALL. 
          UM, WELL, DR. 
          ESCADERA, I THINK ADDRESSED SOME OF, SOME OF THE ISSUES ATTENDANT WITH THAT. 
          I WONDERED IF YOU'VE HAD ANY UPDATES ABOUT WHETHER UT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH PROVIDING, UM, ISOLATION FACILITIES ON CAMPUS, OR WHETHER STUDENTS WHO ARE FINDING THEMSELVES IN NEED OF ISOLATION ARE, HAVE AS OTHER OPTION, OTHER MAIN OPTION, UM, ISOLATING A CITY DISABILITY. 
          UM, YES. 
          UM, OUR, UM, OUR EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER FOLKS HAD A MEETING WITH THE STAFF AND, UM, AND TALK WITH THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING OUR ISOLATION FACILITY IS AVAILABLE. 
          UM, BUT WE WANTED THEM TO, UM, DEVELOP THE CONTINGENCY TO ESTABLISH THAT. 
          UM, AND SO THEY WERE GOING TO GO BACK AND INTERNALLY LOOK AT POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO OVERWHELM THE ASSET IN THE COMMUNITY. 
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AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON. 
          AND SO THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS STAFF ABOUT THAT. 
          GREAT. 
          SO THEY ARE, THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE CONTINGENCY OF PROVIDING AN ISOLATION FACILITY FOR THEIR, UH, FOR THEIR STUDENTS SEPARATE FROM THE CENTER. 
          YES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE GOAL IS, IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO RIGHT NOW IS FINE OR RELATIVELY LOW, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE IF THE ASSET IS FULL AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MORE SPACE FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COLLEGE SETTING. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          I THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, MANY OF THEM MADE PROVISIONS ON THEIR CAMPUSES, JUST, I ASSUME, NOT JUST FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF STUDENTS AND OTHER PERSONNEL FROM THE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO, AS YOU SAID, TO AVOID OVERWHELMING ASSETS, LIMITED ASSETS IN THIS CASE. 
          UM, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ABOUT THE MEALS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, BEING UP TO DATE UPDATED AS WELL ON THE FOOD OPERATIONS FOR THE PRO LODGES. 
          I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR HELPING OUT OUR RESTAURANT SECTOR, UM, AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU DIRECTOR HAYDEN OR FOR, UM, MR. CROCK, BUT, UM, I'VE BEEN HEARING SOME CONCERNS THAT CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS ARE REALLY EXPERIENCING SOME STAFF SHORTAGES THAT ARE MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO CARRY OUT THEIR WORK FULLY, UM, BECAUSE FOLKS ARE OUT, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FMLA AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN IMPORTANT BENEFIT AND, AND WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING THAT. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON CITY OPERATIONS. 
          UM, I HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY, HOW MANY, UM, STAFF PEOPLE WE HAVE WHO ARE OUT, UM, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THOSE COVERT OPERATIONS AND WHAT IMPACT THAT'S HAVING ON CITY OPERATIONS NUMBER. 
          I THINK I CAN RESPOND TO THAT. 
          UH, UH, WE HA WE ARE MONITORING THAT CLOSELY MARIA RIVERA. 
          THEY UNDERMINED A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 
          UM, WE ARE CERTAINLY MONITORING THAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE FREQUENT MEETINGS WITH HRD AS WE LOOK THROUGH THAT. 
          AND WE CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS WHO HAVE THAT NEED TO AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THE EXTENDED FMLA TO DO SO. 
          UM, WE HAVE ASKED THE DEPARTMENTS TO LET US KNOW PERIODICALLY WHERE THEY FIND, UM, UH, SHORTAGES AND WE HAVE BEEN, UH, HELPING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ACROSS THE ENTERPRISE WHERE THAT IS NEEDED. 
          UM, THERE ARE FOLKS, UM, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TEMPS, UH, CONTINUING IN THE ENTERPRISE THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE REASSIGNED AS THE NEED BE. 
          UM, I'LL SAY TOO, THAT WE ARE, UH, BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR HIRING OF VACANCIES ARE A FILLING VACANCIES, IS THAT AS MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, WHILE WE HAVE, WE REALIZED THAT WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MONITORING OUR RESOURCES, WHERE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE PANDEMIC OR IN AREAS THAT REQUIRE SOME ASSISTANCE. 
          WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN FILLING THOSE VACANCIES, UM, AS, AS THE NEED AND THE CRITICALITY ARISES. 
          SO WE ARE BEING MINDFUL, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL BODY ABOUT, UH, FMLA USAGE AS THAT MOST FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A, UM, A CONVERSATION OFFLINE, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENTS THAT I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT SEEM TO BE IMPACTING, UM, SERVICES THAT, UM, ARE RAISING OTHER ISSUES AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO, UM, TO MEET THOSE NEEDS. 
          AND WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE HIS CONVERSATIONS, IT'S CLEAR, THEY JUST GIVEN WHAT THEY'RE TRYING, TRYING TO JUGGLE, AND THAT'S HAVING A BIG IMPACT, UM, ON SOME SERVICES. 
          SO IF WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, I WOULD, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU ON THAT. 
          UM, THE NEXT QUESTION I THINK IS FOR, UM, DR. 
          ASCOT. 
          SO I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THE, UM, AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION PART, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE CONFUSION OUT THERE. 
          AND AS I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, YOU SAID THAT, UM, AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IS POSSIBLE. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE SEEING AS, UM, HAVING VIABLE VIRUS IN SOME CONSTRAINED 
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PLACES IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT IS THE DROPLETS. 
          AND THAT WOULD MEAN LIKE IF SOMEONE COSTS ON YOU OR IF YOU'RE TOUCHING THE DROPLETS, UM, AND THE BEST DEFENSE FOR THAT IS WEARING THE MASKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, STAYING HOME WHEN YOU'RE SICK THAT CORRECT. 
          DR. 
          SCOTT, YOU GOT ALL OF THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS, THIS POSITION ON, UH, THE, THE CONTRIBUTION OF, OF AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION IS EVIDENT BY PUBLIC POLICY ACROSS THE WORLD, UH, WHICH IS STILL SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
          OBVIOUSLY IF, UH, UH, AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION WAS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR, UH, IT WOULD REALLY PREVENT US FROM, FROM DOING THINGS, UH, THAT WE NORMALLY DO WITHOUT HAVING, UH, ACCELERATED THE GROWTH IN THE, IN THE RATE OF TRANSMISSION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING NOT HAPPENING, THAT THE EVIDENCE IS NOT SUGGESTED THAT THE AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE. 
          UH, SO THOSE, THOSE FACTORS THAT, THAT NEED, UH, THE STRESS ALL ALONG, UH, THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ARE CRITICAL. 
          UH, AND PEOPLE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS IN THOSE TYPES OF SETTINGS, A SMALL OFFICE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NOVA INHALATION, UH, THAT TRANSMISSION COULD BE MORE IN THAT TYPE OF SETTING, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND THAT, THAT SEPARATION OF PEOPLE IN THE BASKET. 
          AND WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF THAT FOR THE SCHOOL SETTING? I THINK THE IMPLICATION IS THAT THAT TEACHERS AND STAFF, UH, SHOULDN'T BE OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT VIRUS FLOATING IN THE AIR FOR HOURS. 
          UM, I THINK OUR, OUR CLASSROOMS, OUR SCHOOLS ARE GENERALLY OF SUFFICIENT SIZE AND HAVE SUFFICIENT VENTILATION AT THE QUICK MOVEMENT OF AIR WITH, UH, RE CIRCULATION OF AIR, UM, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT METHOD OF TRANSMISSION IS NOT GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO JUST HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW, UM, HOW WE'RE WATCHING FOR THOSE RISK FACTORS THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED LIKE LABOR DAY AND THE FOOTBALL GAME AND THE RETURN, UM, TO THE UNIVERSITY. 
          UH, SO PRIMARILY WE'RE WATCHING THE CASES, THE NEW CASES, UH, AND OF COURSE THE, UH, THE HOSPITALIZATIONS, UH, WE DID START TO SEE INCREASES IN THE CASES PRIOR TO LABOR DAY. 
          UH, BUT IT REALLY CORRESPONDS WITH INCREASING NOBILITY THAT LAST WEEK OF AUGUST. 
          AND SO PEOPLE WERE PUTTING OUT MORE, THEY WERE INTERACTING MORE, THEY WERE GOING TO RESTAURANTS MORE THAN IN BARS, MORE, UH, AND THEY WERE GATHERING MORE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSEHOLD. 
          UH, SO IT'S NOT JUST THE HOLIDAY AND JUST THE SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THE NEW T GAME. 
          GENERALLY SPEAKING, PEOPLE ARE A BIT MORE RELAXED. 
          UH, SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THOSE FACTORS OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AT THE SAME, IF THERE'S ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY, UH, TRANSMISSION RATE, WHICH WAS NO AT, AT THAT TIME PERIOD BETWEEN THE 4.7 AND 6.1% THAT THE WON'T SEE A HUGE BUMP. 
          WE MAY SEE A LITTLE BUMP, BUT HOPEFULLY NOT A HUGE ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN WHO IS, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE IF THERE ARE GATHERINGS THAT ARE OFF CAMPUS, THAT'S THE CITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE. 
          AND DO WE HAVE, HOW ARE WE MOBILIZING FOR ADDRESSING THOSE GATHERINGS PARTICULARLY, UM, OFF CAMPUS? SO A CAUSE FOR CONCERN REGARDING GATHERINGS OR NONCOMPLIANCE WITH MASKING, UH, SHE BROUGHT A THREE, ONE, ONE, UH, AND, UH, DR. 
          PAGAN CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S EITHER GOING TO GO TO CODE, UH, OR IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE OR ENFORCEMENT, DEPENDING UPON THE VENUE THAT'S INVOLVED. 
          UH, IF IT'S A RESTAURANT, UM, OR A SALON, IT'S A LICENSED FOOD ESTABLISHMENT THAT WILL GO TO THE OFFICE OF PUBLIC HEALTH ENVIRONMENT, THE HEALTH SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ALTAR ALSO WORTH NOTING IN CONVERSATION. 
          YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. 
          THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TEST UP TO 5,000 STUDENTS A WEEK. 
          THEY'RE NOT GETTING 5,000 STUDENTS A WEEK YET TO TAKE THE TEST. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO RAMP THAT UP, BUT THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE BEING TESTED AND THEY GET THE RESULTS FROM THE OFF CAMPUS TESTING AS WELL. 
          THAT GOES ON THEIR DASHBOARD. 
          AND UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS HAS THEIR OWN DASHBOARD. 
          ALL THE INFORMATION DATA ON THAT ARE PART OF WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR DASHBOARD, BUT IT IS THAT SUBSET THAT'S AVAILABLE 
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TO BE SEEN. 
          AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S TAKEN NOTE OF THE FACT THAT OF THE A THOUSAND STUDENTS THAT WERE TESTED, CAUSE THEY HAD TO BE TESTED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET A TICKET TO THE FOOTBALL GAME, WHICH IS A GOOD PRACTICE OF, WE APPRECIATE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS DOING THAT ABOUT A HUNDRED OF THEM TESTED POSITIVELY. 
          NOW YOU HAVE AS A POSITIVITY RATE OF ABOUT 8%. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THAT DATA HAS BOTHERED, EVERYBODY'S SMOKING ANYTHING ELSE, UH, WITH THESE FOLKS, COUNCILMEMBER COSAR. 
          I KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING UP AND GETTING SOME OF THE PER CAPITA DATA. 
          SOMETHING ELSE THAT I NOTED THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A LITTLE WHILE, SINCE WE ENGAGED IN SOME EXTRA EFFORTS, WAS THE SPANISH SPEAKING VERSUS NON SPANISH SPEAKING DATA FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO IT'D BE GREAT TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED, UM, WITH, AND WITH SOME OF THE HOSPITALS, IT WAS LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE LATINO PATIENTS WERE PRIMARILY SPANISH SPEAKERS, AND I KNOW WE ENGAGED IN AND NEW WORK THERE. 
          AND SO I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD TIME TO CHECK IN AND GET THAT AS WELL WITH THE PER CAP DATA THAT I KNOW IS BEING DELIVERED TO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE? UH, QUESTIONS ON THIS? ALRIGHT. 
          DR. 
          M ED DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR, HAYDEN, DR. 
          ASCOT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I WILL LET YOU HEAD OVER TO, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. 
          YOU READY FOR THE NEXT, 
          [B2. Convention Center Expansion Economic and Market Viability Study Report and Master Plan Update Presentation. (Staff presentation and response to Resolution 20190523-029).]
UM, UH, PRESENTATION, UH, THAT WE HAVE BRIEFING, I WILL GO MANAGER TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I BELIEVE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RODNEY GONZALES IS GOING TO KICK US OFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ROBIN GONZALES, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          I'M GOING TO KICK OFF TODAY'S BRIEFING AND THEN HAND IT OVER TO TRICIA TACO INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER DEPARTMENT. 
          YOU MAY RECALL THAT ON MAY 23RD OF LAST YEAR, COUNCIL ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO RECOMMEND AN INITIAL DESIGN FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          THE RESOLUTION WAS ON THE HEELS OF THE ITI CENTER FOR SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT STUDY OF ALTERNATIVE FUTURES FOR THE BOSTON CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT. 
          SEVERAL MILESTONES HAVE TRANSPIRED SINCE THAT TIME, AND WE ARE PLEASED TO PRESENT UPDATES TO THE DESIGN FOR EXPANSION AS WELL AS THE UPDATE TO THE MARKET STUDY ON AUGUST 19TH, STAFF FORWARDED BOTH DOCUMENTS TO COUNSEL IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          AND WITH THAT BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO INTERIM DIRECTOR TOP TREVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE PRESENTATIONS ON TWO FINAL REPORTS THAT ACC D STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS HAVE COMPLETED INTO RESPONSE TO COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE OH FIVE TWO THREE DASH ZERO TWO NINE. 
          THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION ECONOMIC IMPACT AND VIABILITY STUDY PRESENTED BY  AND ANTHONY DAVIS FROM HVS CONVENTION SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT FACILITIES CONSULTING WITH THAT. 
          I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR  AND MR. DAVIS, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANKS FOR THE INVITATION TO BE HERE TODAY. 
          UM, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          UM, DO I NEED TO SHARE MY SCREEN OR, UM, UH, WILL, UH, UH, CITY HALL AB SURE. 
          THE PRESENTATION READY TO PULL UP THE PRESENTATION? SORRY. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          THAT'S OUR KITCHEN. 
          UM, IT MAY JUST BE THAT I MISSED IT, BUT I WAS SENT TO US. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          THIS WAS SENT ON AUGUST THE 19TH. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          DO YOU MEAN THIS CAR POINT? YEAH, I THINK  RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE THE POWERPOINT OR IS IT LINKED AS BACKUP FOR TODAY? MARIN COUNTY? I CAN CHECK SEPARATELY WITH KATIE POWERS TO ENSURE THAT THE OFFICES HAVE RECEIVED DEATH, NOT IN THE BACKUP. 
          SO IF Y'ALL COULD JUST SAY THAT HAS BEEN A CONTINUING PROBLEM AT OUR WORK SESSIONS TO COME INTO WORK SESSION, WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS AND WE FREQUENTLY HAVE TO GET THEM AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE MEETING, SOMETIMES IT'S AS THEY ARE BEING PRESENTED STUDENTS HERE. 
          COULD WE, COULD WE GET THEM AT LEAST BY FRIDAY, JUST FOR WORKSTATION SINCE 
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I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER AND I'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO EVERYONE ABOUT IT, BUT WE CAN DO OUR BEST TO GET THOSE TO YOU AS SOON AS, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS, THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE KEY FINDINGS OF OUR RESEARCH, UH, AND, UH, THE DETAILED REPORT, UH, WAS MADE AVAILABLE IN AUGUST. 
          UH, SO THE IDEA OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO, UH, GIVE AN OVERVIEW AND TO, UH, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS REGARDING OUR STUDY. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HBS, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE REASON THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED IN WORKING IN MOST OF THE MAJOR MARKET EVENTS AND MARKETS IN THE U S IN HELPING PLAN DEVELOP, UH, NEW FACILITIES OR EXPANSIONS. 
          AND OUR ROLE IS AS, UM, AS A OF BUSINESS ANALYSTS, UH, WE DO MARKET RESEARCH. 
          UM, WE MAKE FACILITY PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          WE HELP OUR CLIENTS FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UH, FINANCE AND OPERATE, UH, THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES. 
          SO, UH, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS, UH, AND, UH, HBS AS AN OFFICE HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 2001. 
          SO WE BRING A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF RELEVANT EXPERIENCE IN OTHER MARKETS, AS WELL AS PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN AUSTIN AS WELL. 
          UM, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL DIVE INTO OUR, UM, OUR WORK. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING COLLEAGUES ALSO IS THAT THESE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE TWO POWERPOINTS WERE EMAILED TO COUNCIL OFFICES YESTERDAY AT 10 21 IN THE MORNING. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WANT TO FIND, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, OUR WORK STARTED UP, UM, PRE COVID. 
          SO WE HAD A OPPORTUNITY, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE BEEN ASKED MANY TIMES BEFORE, BUT TO INSPECT THE CONVENTION CENTER, INTERVIEW MANAGEMENT AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS, AND WE CONDUCTED A MARKET ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT ALL THE FACTORS THAT HELP AUSTIN AS A CONVENTION DESTINATION, UH, WE SURVEYED POTENTIAL USERS, UH, PRIMARILY GETTING, UM, NAMES OF POTENTIAL USERS FROM VISIT AUSTIN AS WELL AS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          AND WE SURVEYED ABOUT THEIR ATTITUDES ABOUT AUSTIN AS DESTINATION, AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE ACC AND THEIR LIKELIHOOD OF USING IT. 
          WE ALSO LOOKED DEEPLY INTO, UH, HISTORICAL, UH, OPERATIONS AND GROUP SALES. 
          UM, THEN WE ALSO COMPARED OUR AUSTIN'S, UH, PHYSICAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND DESTINATION TO A COMPARABLE AND COMPETITIVE CONVENTION CENTERS IN THE U S UM, USING ALL OF THAT. 
          WE PROJECTED EVENT DEMAND AND ATTENDANCE. 
          WE FORECAST THE FINANCIAL OPERATIONS FOR THREE PHASE EXPANSION, UM, USING, UH, THE, THE, UH, EXPANSION MODEL THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY CONVENTIONALISM AND GENSLER. 
          AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM THEM LATER TODAY. 
          UH, AND THEN WE ESTIMATED THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS. 
          SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT RESEARCH, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, WE, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE SURVEY FINDINGS WERE, UM, SO EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE. 
          WE, UH, HAVE DONE SURVEYS OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, UH, OF, OF EVENT PLANNERS ASKING ABOUT THEIR FACILITY NEEDS THEIR SPECIFIC LIKES AND DISLIKES THE DESTINATIONS AND THEIR LIKELIHOOD OF USING LITTLE CONVENTION CENTER, IF IT MEETS THEIR, THEIR NEEDS. 
          AND, UM, THIS SURVEY PRODUCED THE MOST POSITIVE RESPONSE THAT I'VE SEEN IN 25 YEARS OF, UM, EVENT PLANNERS SURVEYS, UH, 83% OF RESPONDENTS AS THEY WERE VERY LIKELY OR SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO USE AN EXPANDED ECC AND ONLY 4% SAID THEY WERE UNLIKELY. 
          SO THAT'S A, WHAT'S CALLED A NET PROMOTER SCORE OF 79%. 
          THAT IS A RECORD HIGH IN AUSTIN APPEALS TO EVENTS, UH, PLANNERS SPEAK, NOT BECAUSE OF THE FACILITY, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DESTINATION, IT'S BECOME EXTREME AND EXTREMELY POPULAR DESTINATION. 
          AND IT HAS FOSTERED THAT THROUGH SOUTH, BY SOUTHWEST TO OTHER EVENTS, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, EXISTING CONVENTION CENTERS. 
          UH, AND, UH, THE THING THAT WE FOUND THOUGH, IS THEY'RE IN THEIR VIEW OF THE DESTINATION THAT WAS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF WAS A LAGGING FACTOR IN ATTRACTING EVENTS. 
          SO ONE FIFTH OF THEM SAID EXPANDING WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROVEN THAT 
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COULD BE MADE TO AUSTIN. 
          AND THAT WAS THE MOST, UH, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, AND, UH, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, THE CONDUCT CENTER IS GENERATING DEMAND. 
          WE ASKED THEM ABOUT WHEN THEIR EVENTS OCCURRED, WHAT THE PATTERN ARE WAS OF WHEN THE EVENTS OCCURRED, WHAT TIMES A WEEK AND MONTHS THAT YEAR. 
          AND, UH, THESE EVENTS OCCURRED DURING THE TURRETS. 
          AUSTIN HAS TREMENDOUS, UH, UH, LEISURE DEMAND COMPONENT. 
          AND THAT FALLS WE'LL SEE ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT THESE EVENTS FALL DURING A WEEK DAYS. 
          AND SO IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR, UH, FILLING IN THE GAPS IN THE MARKET. 
          AND WE'LL SHOW YOU LATER WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THAT PATTERN OF EVENTS IS. 
          YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, UH, WE ALSO DID A COMPARISON OF THE EXISTING FACILITY TO, UH, UH, COMPARABLE VENUES IN TEXAS AND, UH, HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO, UH, DALLAS FORT WORTH, ET CETERA. 
          AND, UH, UH, AUSTIN CURRENTLY IS SORT OF AT THE BOTTOM OF THOSE, UM, RANGE IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL FUNCTION SPACE THAT'S OFFERED. 
          AND WHEN WE SAY FUNCTION SPACE, WE MEAN, UH, EXHIBIT SPACE, BANQUET SPACE, OR BALLROOM SPACE AND MEETING SPACE, UM, UH, AND WITH EXCLUSIVE PRE-FUNCTION AREAS AND THE GROSS FOR THE BUILDING, THIS IS JUST SORT RENTABLE FUNCTION SPACE. 
          AND, UM, SO IT REALLY IS, UH, BEHIND, UH, IT'S ONE OF ITS MAIN NATIONAL COMPETITORS IS A MUSIC CITY CENTER IN NASHVILLE, WHICH, UH, UH, REALLY LEAPT TO THE FOREFRONT WHEN THEY BUILT THEIR CONVENTION CENTER AND IN TERMS OF QUALITY AND, UH, SIZE OF PREVENTION CENTER AT ECLIPSE AUSTIN. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS IN TEXAS AND NATIONALLY ARE MUCH LARGER, THE PROPOSED EXPANSION, HOWEVER, WOULD, WOULD COUNTABLE, UH, COST, UH, TO NEAR THE TOP OF TEXAS AND, UM, AND ABOVE MOST OF ITS NATIONAL COMPETITORS. 
          UH, IF YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, ONE OF THE, UH, WELL, I SHOULD MENTION ONE OF THE FACTOR ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WE LEARNED FROM THE EVENT PLANNERS, AS WELL AS FROM OUR REVIEW IS THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF FUNCTIONAL OBSOLESCENCE IN THE EXISTING FACILITY. 
          IT DOESN'T PROVIDE THE RIGHT RATIO OF MEETING SPACE TO OTHER TYPES OF FUNCTIONS SPACE. 
          IT ALSO HAS A CERTAIN ISSUES OF, UH, UH, FLEXIBILITY AND ITS USE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SPACES ARE LAID OUT. 
          AND, UH, UH, SO, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH EXPANSION AND REPLACEMENT OF THE ASSISTANCE CENTER TO, UH, NOT ONLY CREATE MORE SPACE, BUT TO CREATE SPACE THAT'S, UH, IT FUNCTIONS MUCH BETTER AND IT'S MORE ATTRACTIVE TO EVENT PLANNERS. 
          SO WE MADE THE ASSUMPTION BASED ON THE PHYSICAL PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IS THAT, UH, UH, THERE WOULD BE A THREE PHASE EXPANSION AND THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE, UH, THE NEW WEST BUILDING ON THE NEW SITE WOULD LEAVE THE EXISTING BUILDING INTACT AND OPERATING, UH, AND THAT WOULD OPEN IN 2024. 
          UM, THESE AREN'T HARD DATES. 
          THESE ARE DATES THAT WE, UH, WE ASSUMED, UM, BASED ON OUR CURRENT KNOWLEDGE AND, UH, UH, I THINK OUR ANALYSIS WITH HOLD, UH, IF, IF THE DATE WORKED PUSHED BACK A LITTLE BIT, IF THAT WEREN'T NECESSARY. 
          BUT, UH, SO THEN, UH, THE SECOND PHASE OF EXPANSION IS THE SOUTH PART OF THE NEW BUILDING, WHICH IS, UH, UH, WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED. 
          AND THEN FINALLY A THIRD PLACE, THE NORTH SEXUAL WOULD BE REPLACED. 
          AND SO WE DON'T REALLY REACH A STABILIZED LEVEL OF COMPLETE DEMAND UNTIL 2033. 
          SO THESE ARE REALLY, UH, QUITE LONGTERM PROJECTIONS AND YOU COULD SEE HOW THEY, UH, RAMP UP GRADUALLY. 
          AND I WANT TO NOTE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH COVID AND WITH THE ECONOMY, AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO SET A FUTURE UTILIZATION? SO THESE PROJECTIONS, BECAUSE THEY SORT OF RAMP UP SLOWLY TRY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OF THAT RECOVERY. 
          AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER ON. 
          UM, SO MOVING ON TO THE FINANCIALS AND THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE, UM, UH, DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE HISTORICAL OPERATIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL OF, UH, UH, INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SUPPORT AN EXPANDED COMMENCEMENT AT EACH ONE OF ITS PHASES. 
          IF YOU COULD FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IT 
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SHOWS US OUR, UM, FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS. 
          SO, UH, RIGHT NOW THE FACILITY IS GENERATING ABOUT 33 TO 34 MILLION IN OPERATING REVENUE. 
          UH, WE, UH, UH, UH, ON, ON THIS WOULD BE, UH, BASED IN 2020 $4. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS INVOLVES SOME APPLICATION THAT INFLATION TO HISTORICAL NUMBERS, WHICH WE CREATED AS A BASELINE, UH, THAT REVENUE COULD GROW TO OVER 60 MILLION, UH, UNDER A FULLY EXPANDED FACILITY. 
          BUT, UH, OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ALSO GOING TO GROW SIGNIFICANTLY AS THERE WOULD BE A NEW, PERMANENT LABOR, NEW, TEMPORARY LABOR, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, ENERGY COSTS, AND ALL OF THOSE WOULD INCREASE. 
          SO WE BREAK, WE, YOU CAN SEE IN OUR REPORT, WE'VE BROKEN THESE PROJECTIONS DOWN BY LINE ITEM. 
          OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE MADE BY EVENT TYPE. 
          UH, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO, BASED ON AN ANALYSIS, HISTORICAL OPERATIONS, OR CALIBRATE A MODEL THAT PREDICTS, UH, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ADD NEW DEMAND TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, IN TERMS OF INCREASING REVENUE AND EXPENSES. 
          UM, SO RIGHT NOW THE FACILITY, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF CONVENTION FACILITIES ACROSS THE U S UH, IT'S GENERATING AN OPERATING LOSS AROUND 25 MILLION THAT OPERATING LOSS COULD ACTUALLY DECREASE UNDER EXPANSION BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WOULD OCCUR. 
          UH, SO WE HAD THAT, AND THIS IS AGAIN IN 2020 $4, UH, WOULD INCREASED, DECREASED ABOUT 21 MILLION, ACCORDING TO OUR PROJECTIONS. 
          UH, WE, UH, YOU SHOULD KNOW TOO THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMAND FOR CONVENTION CENTERS IS LOVEY. 
          AND SO WE'RE SHOWING KIND OF SMOOTH PROJECTIONS, BUT YOU GET ONE OR TWO BIG EVENTS. 
          SO YOU CAN REALLY MAKE AN, AN EFFECT ON A GIVEN YEAR'S FINANCIAL OPERATIONS. 
          SO YOU SHOULD VIEW THESE KINDS OF AS A, A SMOOTH AVERAGE OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN YEAR TO YEAR. 
          SOME YEARS ARE GOING TO BE LOWER AT SOME YEARS, BE HIGHER, DEPENDING ON YOUR FENCE. 
          YOU WANT TO FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, UH, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT'S BEEN RAISED AS WELL, WHAT, WHAT IS THE REAL IMPACT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ON THE LODGING INDUSTRY? UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE MARKET. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FROM SOURCES OTHER THAN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HOTELS HAVE THEIR OWN GROUP GETTING OFFENSIVE, LEISURE AND BUSINESS DEMAND, CHRIS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEMAND. 
          UM, SO WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO GET DATA FROM, UM, FROM VISIT AUSTIN, UH, DAILY DATA ON, UH, OCCUPANCY AND ROOM RATE AND, UH, REVENUE PER AVAILABLE ROOM IN, UH, IN THE AUSTIN MARKET OVER A MULTIYEAR PERIOD. 
          AND, UM, SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MARKET ON DAYS WHEN CONVENTION EVENTS ARE, ARE IN THE MARKET AND DAYS WHEN CONVENTION EVENTS ARE NOT IN THE MARKET. 
          AND, UM, WE DID A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS CALLED A DIFFERENCE OF MEANS TEST TO, UH, ANALYZE WHETHER THAT, WHETHER THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, ANY OTHER THAT DIFFERENCE IS STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT. 
          AND WE FOUND THAT ON CONVENTION EVENT DAYS PAIRED AND NON EVENT DAYS, OCCUPANCY IS OVER 12% HIGHER AND AVERAGE DAILY ROOM RATE IS $37 HIGHER. 
          SO A LOT OF THE LOT OF IMPACT ON THE, ON THE HOTEL MARKET, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT US? WELL, HOW MANY ROOMS ARE BLOCKED? AND THAT WAS REALLY NOT A GOOD MEASURE OF WHAT THE IMPACT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER IS ON THE HOTEL MARKETS. 
          UM, BECAUSE WHEN IT INCREASES OCCUPANCY, IT CAUSES COMPRESSION EFFECT. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT JUST CONVENTION, NEW CONVENTION, PEOPLE COMING TO THE MARKET, EVERYBODY IN THE MARKET IS PAYING 37 MORE DOLLARS FOR A ROOM. 
          SO IT'S STIMULATING A LOT OF NEW REVENUE. 
          IF YOU COMBINE THESE TWO EFFECTS IN THE DOWNTOWN MARKET ALONE, IT'S GENERATING OVER $58 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE FOR THE MARKET. 
          NOW WE ONLY HAD DATA ON DOWNTOWN AND HOW THAT'S AFFECTED, BUT WHEN WE'VE DONE THE SAME KIND OF ANALYSIS IN OTHER CITIES LIKE IN SAN DIEGO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE FOUND THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE DONALD TIME MARKETS AFFECTED, BUT SINCE PEOPLE CAN'T GET ROOMS DOWNTOWN, IT COMPRESSES AND SURROUNDING CONCENTRIC CIRCLES OF MARCUS ARE ALSO POSITIVELY AFFECTED. 
          SO WE THINK IF YOU WERE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ENTIRE MARKET AND NOT JUST DOWNTOWN, YOU WOULD HAVE ABOUT $80 MILLION ANNUAL IMPACT. 
          SO IT'S A REAL BOOST, UH, TO, UH, THE LODGING MARKET. 
          UH, AND THAT'S ONE PART 
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OF AN OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT. 
          AND LET ME FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UH, TO, UH, TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR TOTAL IMPACT ESTIMATES. 
          SO THESE IMPACT ESTIMATES NOT ONLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE, UH, ESTIMATE OF IMPACT THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU ON MARGIN MARKET, BUT ALSO ON RESTAURANT RETAIL, ENTERTAINMENT, SPENDING, UH, TRANSPORTATION, ALL THE NEW SPENDING THIS BROUGHT INTO THE MARKET. 
          AND WE THINK THE CURRENT, UH, ACC IS GENERATING AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF CLOSE TO 500 MILLION. 
          AND THAT COULD INCREASE BY ABOUT 300 MILLION WITH EXPANSION. 
          THIS IS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          SO THAT INCLUDES THE DIRECT IMPACT OF NEW SPENDING, UH, THE NEW INCOME THAT'S GENERATED. 
          AND WE SPENT IN THE ECONOMY, LET'S SAY, NO SERVER STAFF AT RESTAURANTS HAVE MORE MONEY. 
          THEY, WE SPEND THAT INTO THE ECONOMY, THAT'S, UH, AN INDIRECT IMPACT. 
          UH, AND THEY'RE ALSO, UH, UH, I MEAN, AN INDUCED IMPACT AND ALSO THERE'S NEW BUSINESS SPENDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          SO THE TOTAL DIRECT INDIRECT INDUCED IMPACT, UH, WOULD BE, UH, OVER $800 MILLION AFTER, UH, IN A STABILIZED YEAR OF EXPANSION. 
          SO, AND A LOT OF THAT SPENDING IS TAXED. 
          SO THERE'S A DIRECT FISCAL IMPACT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT TO BE AFTER COMPLETION OF EXPANSION AT ABOUT $27 MILLION A YEAR OF DIRECT IMPACT. 
          UM, SO THAT KIND OF SPENDING THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY, NOT JUST AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ECONOMY WOULD SUPPORT, UH, UH, OR FOUR AND A HALF THOUSAND JOBS, PERMANENT JOBS. 
          UH, THOSE ARE MEASURED IN FULL TIME EQUIVALENT JOBS. 
          SO SOME OF THAT WOULD BE PART TIME LABOR OR SOME WOULD BE FULL TIME, BUT THIS IS A MEASURE OF FULL TIME EQUIVALENT JOBS. 
          UM, SO, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF OUR PROJECTIONS FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S ON EVERYONE'S MIND. 
          AND I DID THIS EXCELLENT PRESENTATION ON THE STATUS OF THE PANDEMIC IN AUSTIN. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS NATIONALLY AS WELL AND HOW IT'S ACCEPTING THE LODGING INDUSTRY AND SPECIFICALLY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER INDUSTRY. 
          SO AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, THE IMMEDIATE SHORT TERM IMPACTS HAVE BEEN DEVASTATING TO THE CONVENTION. 
          INDUSTRY EVENTS SIMPLY ARE NOT BEING HELD, UH, PRETTY MUCH SHUT DOWN ALL THE REST OF THIS YEAR AND IS LIKELY TO SHUT DOWN, UH, THE EARLY, UH, EARLY PART OF NEXT YEAR AND THEN START TO COME BACK. 
          SO, UM, NOW IF YOU NOTICE OUR FIRST YEAR PROJECTION IS ISN'T 2024. 
          SO MY BIG CONCERN IS NOT WITH COVID THE COVID IMPACT AND THE IMMEDIATE HEALTH CONCERNS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY FAIR TO ASSUME THAT THIS WHILE YES, MUCH MORE PROLONGED THAN WE EVER HOPED OR EXPECTED, IT WOULD BE, IT IS A TEMPORARY PHENOMENON AND SOME RESOLUTION IS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE 2024. 
          THERE WILL A VACCINE, THERE WILL BE NEW TREATMENTS, ET CETERA. 
          SO WE SORT OF SET ASIDE THE IMMEDIATE IMPACTS OF COVID AND WE DIDN'T GIVE AN ESTIMATE WHAT THEY WOULD BE IN 2022 AND 2023, MY BIGGER CONCERN, AND THE CONCERN THAT WE BUILT INTO THIS ANALYSIS IS WHAT THE PANDEMICS LONGTERM IMPACTS ARE ON THE ECONOMY. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN PAST RECESSIONS IS THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO RECOVER FROM A RECESSION, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE IN A RECESSION, A RECESSIONARY ENVIRONMENT FOLLOWING THE COVID, UH, THE DISAPPEARS HAVE CALLED IT. 
          AND, UH, SO WE LOOK BACK AT OTHER RECESSIONS AND HOW RECOVERY RECOVERIES AS OCCURRED AND MEETING A GROUP BUSINESS IS THE SLOWEST PIECE OF BUSINESS. 
          THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY RECOVER, UH, OF PARTICULAR CONCERN. 
          TWO IS HOW DEEP THE DAMAGE IS GOING TO BE AND SOMETHING THAT'S. 
          I THINK INCREASING CONCERN TO ME, AND IT SHOULD BE TO EVERYBODY IS THE LACK OF FEDERAL STIMULUS TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMY. 
          WE HAD THAT INITIAL $2 TRILLION STIMULUS PACKAGE, WHICH KEPT THE ECONOMY FROM FALLING OFF A CLIFF. 
          BUT SINCE THE END OF JULY, THAT HAS BASICALLY DISAPPEARED AND NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. 
          SO THERE'S REALLY PROFOUND DAMAGE IS BEING DONE TO THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, AS WE SPEAK. 
          UH, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO, UH, CONGRESSIONAL ACTION TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE WORK OF MOST ECONOMISTS, THEY'LL SAY THIS IS GOING TO HAVE LONGTERM IMPACTS. 
          SO WE WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND, AND TO REFLECT THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS, WHICH ACTUALLY, UH, WE HOPE FOR MORE SIMILAR AS WHEN WE WERE DOING THESE PROJECTIONS. 
          UM, BUT, UM, I, THE REAL KEY THING IS GOING TO BE HOW WELL THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO RECOVER 
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AFTER COLBY WAS OVER. 
          AND, UH, FORTUNATELY FOR THIS EXPANSION, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF YEARS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          AND IN OUR PROJECTIONS, WE HAVE, UH, TRIED TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN THE EARLY YEARS ABOUT THE NEW DEMAND THAT WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          AND, UH, WE REALLY DON'T GET FULL STABILIZATION UNTIL 2033. 
          SO WE COULD ACTUALLY BE THROUGH ANOTHER RECESSIONARY PERIOD BY THAT TIME. 
          BUT, UH, SO WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, FUTURE DEMAND IS REALLY ONE THAT'S RELATED TO ECONOMIC RECOVERY. 
          AND NOT SPECIFICALLY TO CALL IT A, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY SURROUNDING THAT, AND WE'LL KEEP FOLLOWING THAT AS WE GO. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S MY, UM, OVERALL TAKE ON THIS AND A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY WITH THAT, UM, MARIN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          WELL, THE SECOND BRIEFING OR ASK QUESTIONS ON THIS. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          THANKS. 
          AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE IMPACTS, THE LACK OF RELIEF COMING FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER AND OUR WORK HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE LIKELY ECONOMIC IMPACTS. 
          WE GET A GOOD JOB OF CHILDREN'S BUDGET THIS YEAR, GOING INTO FISCAL 21. 
          A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE REALLY STRONG FISCAL POLICIES, FINANCIAL POLICIES, AND SOME STRONG, UM, UH, PROPERTY TAX INCOME IN JANUARY, DECEMBER, AND JANUARY, UM, OF THE MONEY THAT WE DID GET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO HELP WITH TARGETING, UM, TO THIS, TO THE SECTOR AND TO RESTAURANTS AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES GOING FORWARD. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET A YEAR FROM NOW AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OUR PROJECT, IT'S IT'S YET ANOTHER CRISIS MISSION'S GOING TO HAVE TO SHOULDER. 
          AND I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WE SEE SOME CHANGES AT THE STATE LEVEL STATE LEGISLATURE IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. 
          AND THEN ALSO ADDITIONAL FEDERAL SUPPORT THAT WILL HELP ME USE THESE IMPACTS, WHERE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN. 
          AND I THINK PRETTY DARN GOOD JOB, ESPECIALLY FOR MY STAFF THAT OUR STAFF MADE FROM A HIGH TOUCH, SUPER INTERACTIVE CITY, UH, OPERATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS. 
          AND SO WHAT AGAIN, OUR, OUR, OUR STAFF FOR THAT, BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ABOUT THE NECESSITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FROM HIGHER LEVELS OF ALTAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I SUBMITTED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND PART OF THE ANALYSIS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT I HOPE THAT I CAN, UM, GET ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, THE OVERVIEW, I WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF THE TIMING OF THE SURVEY, UM, WAS THAT PRE OR POST COVID BECAUSE HE STARTED THIS ANALYSIS, I THINK IN THE FALL, UM, THAT 83% SAYING THAT THEY WANTED TO COME YOU'RE MUTED. 
          I MUTED IT WAS COVID AS, SO WE DON'T HAVE DATA ON, UH, THEIR VIEWS, UH, UH, POST COVID ACTUALLY, IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MODEL A MORE NORMALIZED MARKET. 
          AND SO IF WE HAD THAT SURVEY COLORED BY THE COVID PANDEMIC, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY NOT HAVE PRODUCED ITS USEFUL RESULTS. 
          THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF WORK. 
          IBM HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK IN TERMS OF SURVEYING, UM, FACILITIES AND USERS DURING COVID. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING GENERALLY AS A REACTION TO COVID IS MOSTLY POSTPONEMENT AND NOT CANCELLATION OF EVENTS. 
          AND THE, UNFORTUNATELY THOSE POLLS FOLDERS HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE NOW BECAUSE EARLIER HOPES OF BEING ABLE TO OPEN UP LATER IN THIS YEAR AT VANISHED. 
          AND SO THAT 
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THOSE HOPES HAVE NOW MOVED INTO A SECOND QUARTER, THIRD QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING A LOT OF PENT UP DEMAND IN CONVENTION CENTERS AS, UM, THE DESIRE TO MEET IN PERSON HAS NOT GONE AWAY. 
          WE SEE, WE'VE KIND OF SEEN THE STORY BEFORE, UH, IN OTHER RECESSIONS WHERE THERE'S WHERE THE ECONOMY OF CONTRACTS AND EVENTS, CONTRACT PEOPLE THINK ALWAYS GOING TO ALSO FLIP TO ELECTRONIC MEETINGS AND SO ON, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED HISTORICALLY AND THAT WE DON'T EXPECT THAT WILL HAPPEN HERE. 
          I THINK A STRUGGLE WITH SCHOOL OPENINGS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UH, THE PRESSURE, THE NEED IT'S THE SAME NEED TO EDUCATE, UH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FUNCTION, ADVENTURE CENTERS, EDUCATING PERSON TO HAVE THAT SOCIAL INTERACTION IS WHAT CONVENTION CENTERS OFFER. 
          AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL, UM, FOR LEARNING FOR BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS, FOR THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION. 
          SO WE, WE, WE THINK THE ISSUE AGAIN IS GOING TO BE WHETHER PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE WORLD WITH ALL NOT THE DESIRE TO ATTEND IN PERSON MEETINGS, THAT DESIRE IS GOING TO BE THERE. 
          IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THAT ACTIVITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT, UM, FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT FOLKS ARE STILL GONNA WANT TO CONVENE, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF AN ECONOMIC DECISION THAN A HEALTH DECISION AT THIS POINT, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, CAUSE I'M GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT OF COVID AND, AND, AND THERE'S SOME PIECES THAT I FEEL LIKE OURSELVES, YOU KNOW, MISSING GIVEN THE DATA THAT WE HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE IMPACTS OF COVID WILL BE THE THEATER OF THE NEXT VIRUS. 
          SO, UM, BUT I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON HAVING GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE RECESSIONS AND RECOVERY PERIODS WHERE THE SAME FEAR HAS ARISEN, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PERMIT DAMPENING OF THE NEED FOR, IN PERSON MEETINGS THAT HAS NEVER MATERIALIZED. 
          AND I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT'S NOT GOING TO MATERIALIZE IN THE SENSE I'VE ALSO, IT'S NOT JUST ME HOLDING THAT OPINION. 
          IT'S, IT'S WIDELY SHARED IN A HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY. 
          UM, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU HEAR THE BRANDS UP, UH, THE MAJOR HOTEL BRANDS UPDATE THAT ARE, UH, THEIR SHAREHOLDERS, THEY STAY ARE SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          THIS IS A, THIS IS AN ECONOMIC ISSUE. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HEALTH ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND, UH, SO WE NEED TO KIND OF DO IT AND TREAT IT THAT WAY. 
          YOU'RE YOU'RE NEEDED. 
          HIS NEW BUTTONS ARE REALLY USING ME BECAUSE NOW IT SAYS I'M ON MUTE, BUT I'M UNMUTED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY HELPFUL PERSPECTIVE. 
          UM, BOTH THAT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE ECONOMIC THAN HEALTH. 
          I'M NOT, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF HAVING THESE RECESSIONS WHERE WE SEE KIND OF SOME OF THAT, THAT HAPPENING. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IT, THAT'S A USEFUL, UM, PERSPECTIVE, UM, TO SHARE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU HAVE IT NOW, CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE REPORT. 
          UM, BUT A MISSING PIECE OF THE ANALYSIS FOR ME, IT SEEMED TO BE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES AS A WHOLE. 
          UM, YOU HAD THE, YOU HAD THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY LEVELS, BUT NOT THE TAXES. 
          AND THERE WASN'T ALWAYS CLEAR THAT THE MARGINAL DIFFERENCE WAS IN THERE. 
          UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THOSE CALCULATIONS THAT YOU CAN SHARE. 
          UM, AND THEN I'M HOPING AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME IDEA OF THE COST, WHICH MAY COME INTO MASTER PLANNING ANALYSIS OF OVERALL LAWS AND TAX AVAILABILITY WAS NOT A PART OF OUR SCOPE OF SERVICES. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE PROJECTIONS FOR YOU. 
          I THINK THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE INTERNALLY SO FAR WITHIN THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE DONE THAT KIND OF PROJECTION FOR A LOT OF OTHER CITIES, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CRISIS WHERE THERE'S BEEN A COLLAPSE IN REVENUE SOURCES. 
          AND THE QUESTION IS HOW WOULD THEY RECOVER? SO WE'VE HELPED SOME CITIES WITH REFINANCING THEIR DEBT IN TERMS OF PROJECTING WHAT THOSE WOULD BE. 
          UH, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECTION AVAILABLE. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO TURN THE CITY STAFF OR ANY INFORMATION THEY MIGHT HAVE ON THAT AT THIS POINT, JUST TOUCH IT. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US OR CAN GET US THROUGH THE Q AND A, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS HERE. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT 
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TRAJECTORY, GIVEN THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ABOUT THE TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE WOULD SEE COUNCIL MEMBER WE'VE ENGAGED, JOHN, HOW CAN YOU, UM, AND HE HAS HELPED GIVE US PROJECTIONS FOR THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX OVERALL, UH, IN THE SPRING WHEN COVID, UH, HAD FIRST HIT AND WE'VE GOT PROJECTIONS, UM, OR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OR SO DURING AND POST COVID, UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO, UH, ENGAGE, UH, AND, AND GATHER A REPORT OR GET THAT DATA FOR YOU FOR THE OUT YEARS IN LINE WITH, UH, WHAT TOM HAS PRESENTED IN HIS PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE LOSS OF REVENUE, YOU KNOW, IT'S RUNNING, OPERATING ON A REVENUE LOSS, WHICH IS MADE UP FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, WHICH WE ALSO USE TO FUND OTHER THINGS. 
          UM, AND IT JUST REALLY WAS VERY DIFFICULT FROM THE DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE WOULD GROW. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A PIECE THAT MAY COME IN TO SUPPORT HOMELESS AND NONE OF THOSE PIECES WERE VERY CLEAR IN WHAT WE SAW. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE IN THIS PROCESS, BUT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. 
          YES, WE'VE GOT THAT INFORMATION AND WE'VE GOT, UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE IN OUR PROJECTIONS, UM, AND THE MODEL FOR THE FINANCING PLAN. 
          AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. 
          ADDITIONALLY, SINCE MEMBER WE'VE RECEIVED YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, AND WE'RE WORKING ON COMMENTS TO RESPOND BACK TO YOU AS WELL, THE WRITTEN COMMENTS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE SECOND REPORT WHILE WE HAVE THE CONSULTANTS HERE. 
          UM, COUNSELOR TOBY, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK QUESTION COUNSEL IN HER KITCHEN BEFORE WE GET THAT'S SO COOL. 
          SO WE'RE ABOUT THIS PIECE AND I'M JUST, JUST THINKING IT WAS EASIER TO TAKE IT IN CHUNKS, BUT EITHER WAY, I MEAN, ARE THERE SOME FOLLOWUPS TO COUNCIL MEMBER ORIGINS? THAT'S OUR TIMEFRAME FOR IT? I JUST WANT TO IT'S 10 42. 
          THE HOPE IS OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO BE ABLE TO DO. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL THE INFORMATION OUT, SOME OF THE ANSWERS THAT PEOPLE GIVE. 
          UM, SO I THINK IF I MAY JUST ASK MY QUESTION SINCE THEY FOLLOW ON THE ECONOMIC PIECE OF IT. 
          SO I'M JUST, I APOLOGIZE THAT I MISSED ONE. 
          YOU KEEP SORT OF LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED, BUT I THINK SHE WAS ASKING YOU, UM, WHEN THE INTERVIEWS WITH STAKEHOLDERS WERE DONE. 
          AND I THINK I HEARD THE RESPONSE ABOUT INTERESTS AND THE STEPS THAT ARE IN OUR LONG REPORT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WERE THE FACTORS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE THE SPACE MORE APPEALING AND WHATNOT. 
          WE'RE ALL DONE. 
          COVID IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I HEAR YOUR ANSWER. 
          MAYBE, LET ME JUST SAY, HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          UM, 20, 20, 33, THE, ARE THE SLIDE SIX FULL STABILIZATION BY FULL STABILIZATION. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT KIND OF FULL BUILD OUT OF SPACE. 
          I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING HERE. 
          UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT THE FOLDOUT FULL BUILD OUT OF SPACE, BUT KIND OF THE FULL, THE FULL DEMAND COMING BACK TO THE MARKET. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT BY YOUR ESTIMATES 2033 BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THAT FULL DEMAND. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          REALIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THERE, WASN'T A COMMENT YOU MADE EARLIER, OR MAYBE IT'S IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT THE PROJECTIONS ASSUME THAT PANDEMIC HAS SUBSIDED BY THE TIME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT. 
          DO YOU MEAN BY THE TIME THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED? UH, BY THE TIME THE CAUSE BY THE TIME THE CONSTRUCTION BY 2024 IN OUR MODEL, UM, THAT'S WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE FIRST PHASE WOULD BE COMPLETED. 
          AND SO, WELL, I GUESS FOLLOWING ON COUNCIL MEMBER ALTERS QUESTION, LET ME JUST SAY, I THINK IT SEEMS, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK WE NEED MORE OF IT. 
          AND, AND TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT A DESIGN, IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A DESIGN THAT IS FLEXIBLE AND ADAPTABLE AND USABLE FOR A VARIETY OF CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME, NONE OF US KNOW AT THIS POINT, WHAT MIGHT CHANGE AMONG THE CONDUCT, THE CONVENTION INDUSTRY AND WHAT MIGHT BE SOME OF THE NEW, UM, THE NEW PREFERENCES OR THE NEW CHANGES. 
          AND SO I WONDER, UM, IF YOU COULD POTENTIALLY THROUGH THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PROCESS, PROVIDE US WITH SOME OF THE SOURCES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY OR IN OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE THE LONG TERM, THE LONG TERM SHIFTS IN PREFERENCES FOR MEETINGS. 
          I KNOW 
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THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF YOU MORE OR LESS, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE, WELL, THIS WASN'T THE QUESTION, BUT THE ANSWER YOU WERE PROVIDING SEEMED TO SUGGEST THAT THE APPETITE FOR LARGE MEETINGS WOULD, WOULD CONTINUE TO BE THERE EVEN AFTER, UM, AFTER WE GET THROUGH THIS PERIOD, THAT ECONOMIC RECOVERY WOULD BE THE ONLY THING HOLDING, HOLDING THAT A RETURN TO FULL CAPACITY. 
          COULD YOU HELP US SEE SOME OF THE LITERATURE THAT YOU'RE READING THAT LEADS YOU TO THAT CONCLUSION? UM, AND IF YOU COULD PROVIDE US THOSE RESOURCES THROUGH, THROUGH OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER PROCESS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          SURE. 
          I COULD FOLLOW UP WITH SOME SOURCES ON, ON INDUSTRY TRENDS, UM, THAT WE, WE, THAT WE'VE RELIED ON THAT WE ALSO RELY ON OUR EXPERIENCE IN TALKING WITH A VENUE MANAGERS AND EVENT PLANNERS. 
          UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TRENDS IN THE INDUSTRY THAT ARE REFLECTED IN OUR PROJECTIONS AND IN, UH, PLANNING OF THIS FACILITY. 
          UM, ONE IS, UH, THAT THE FOCUS OF COMPETITION IS NOT ON THE VENUE ITSELF, BUT IT'S ON THE DESTINATION. 
          AND SO THIS PLAN, AS WE SEE IT, AND WE WE'VE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH WITH PHYSICAL PLANNERS IS NOT LIKE THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS KIND OF A QUIETING EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT. 
          UH, GET WHEN NOTHING'S GOING ON AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, IT'S KIND OF DEAD, BUT THIS INVOLVES ON STREET LEVEL, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT URBAN DESIGN, A LOT OF, UH, RETAIL ENTERTAINMENT, UH, AVAILABILITY, UH, WITHIN, ON THE STREET LEVEL. 
          SO TO CREATE AN ACTIVE CONVENTION DISTRICT. 
          SO THAT, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH TRYING TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT INDUSTRY TREND. 
          UH, THE OTHER KEY INDUSTRY TREND THAT THIS ADDRESSES IS THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A MOVEMENT AWAY FROM, UM, I SHOULDN'T SAY AWARE A STAGNANT GROWTH IN THE USE OF EXHIBITION SPACE AND A CONCURRENT GROWTH IN THE USE OF BREAKOUT MEETING SPACE. 
          SO HAVING MORE MEETING SPACE, A HIGHER PROPORTION OF MEETING SPACE AND MORE FLEXIBILITY IN YOUR ABILITY TO RECONFIGURE THOSE SPACES IS, UH, ADDRESSING, UH, EVENT NEEDS. 
          AND THAT TREND IS ACTUALLY REFLECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE, AS GREATER SPECIALIZATION OCCURS. 
          LET'S SAY IN THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY, WHEN YOU HAVE A MEDICAL MEETING, IT'S REALLY HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS IN WITHIN THAT, UH, BECAUSE EACH SPECIALTY IS, IS, UH, WANTS TO SHARE INFORMATION IN A SEPARATE FORM. 
          AND THAT'S TRUE ON NEARLY EVERY INDUSTRY AND IN TECH INDUSTRY AND EVEN IN MANUFACTURING. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE SEEN A KIND OF A RECONFIGURING AND, UH, AN INCREASE IN THE LEVEL OF SPACE. 
          SO THIS PLAN IS, UH, DESIGNED TO ADDRESS, UH, THOSE TRENDS AND, UM, TO MAKE IT A LEADING EDGE STATE, THE ART FACILITY THAT WE'LL BE ADDRESSING, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE PRESENTATION PRESENTED FOR THE NEXT REPORT. 
          AND I WANT TO GET THE REPORT PRESENTED, UH, RATHER THAN POSTPONING THAT PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION, PLEASE HOLD ONTO YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          THOMAS WILL NOT BE, HE'S NOT THE ONE LEAVING. 
          SO REMAIN HERE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ON THIS PRESENTATION. 
          ANDREA, YOU WANT TO CALL UP THE NEXT PRESENTATION BEFORE WE LOSE THAT PRESENTER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RODNEY OR TRISHA, TAKE IT ON. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. 
          THANK YOU, MIRA AND TRICIA DC NEXT ROUND OF PRISONERS. 
          THANK YOU, RODNEY. 
          THE NEXT PRESENTATION IS THE AUSTIN CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN UPDATE PRESENTED BY DAVID O'NEIL AND RICK SCHMIDT. 
          WHAT CONVENTIONAL WISDOM CONVENTION CONSULTANTS AND ALLEN ALLEN COLLIER. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. NEIL AND THE TEAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WILL YOU PUT UP BAR GRAPH JUST TO MAKE SURE. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME SINCE WE'VE BEEN HAVING TECHNICAL PROBLEM? OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S UM, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, WE DID THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN STUDY WITH GENSLER AND OUR SCOPE WAS KIND OF LIMITED TO HOW COULD YOU EXPAND THE SHUTTER CONTINUOUSLY? AND WE LOOKED IN EVERY DIRECTION POSSIBLE AND, UH, HAPPENED TO MOVE TO THE WEST AS THE MOST LOGICAL PLACE TO GO, BECAUSE IT WAS 
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THE MOST AVAILABLE LAND AT THE TIME. 
          UH, AFTERWARDS, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, YOU'VE UPDATED THIS STUDY. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT A PHASING STRATEGY AND YOU'VE HEARD OF PHASING EARLIER WHEN TIME TALK FACING IS THAT ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE LEASE ABOUT INVENTORY LEVELS, CONSTANT OVER MULTIPLE CONSTRUCTION PHASES, AND THEN TO SMOOTH THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, CASH FLOW OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS WITH PHASING RATHER THAN BUILDING THE WEST EXPANSE ON THAT TOTALLY REDEVELOPING THE EAST SIDE. 
          AND THEN, UH, BY SPREADING OUT THIS CONSTRUCTION, IT ALLOWS YOU TO RESPOND TO CHANGES IN THE MARKETS, UH, FOLLOWING EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, AS ONE OF THE COUNCIL PERSONS RECOMMENDED GIVING YOU TIME TO LOOK BACK READJUST AND MOVE FORWARD NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          AND THE THANKS DAVID, AND THE DESIGN STRATEGY THAT WE HAD FOR THIS, THIS PART OF TOWN REALLY TOOK ITS CUES FROM A LOT OF THE PREVIOUS STUDIES THAT OCCURRED, PARTICULARLY THE UT STUDY, WHICH SAID WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO JUST LOOK AT A WEST EXPANSE. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AS A COMPLETE DISTRICT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE TOTALLY SUPPORT AND IN GLAD WE'RE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          BUT SOME OF THOSE PLANNING PRECEPTS THAT WE CARRIED THROUGH IS HOW DO WE RECAPTURE THE AD GRADE PUBLIC USES AND THAT'S EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, PALM PARK AND, AND, UH, AND SOME OF THE, THE STREET ACTIVITY THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, THE WALNUT CREEK CORRIDOR. 
          UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT REESTABLISHING, THE STREET GRID AND PEDESTRIAN MOBILITY. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS THE FEAR OF A CONVENTION CENTER CREATING A HUGE ROLE. 
          PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST EXAMPLES IS THE GEORGE R. BROWN, WHICH I THINK TAKES UP SEVEN CITY BLOCKS, SEPARATING THE DOWNTOWN FROM EASTBOUND TOWN. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT THAT HERE. 
          AND IN FACT, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE CITY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT WE WANT TO OPEN UP THIS GRID AND MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE AND CONNECT THOSE OTHER PIECES THAT ARE ON THE OUTSIDE WAS THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, THE DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT RAINY STREET. 
          SO, AND THEN THE THIRD THING WAS TO CREATE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PATHS FOR P THREE DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE KNOW THAT A REVENUE GENERATION AND FUNDING STREAMS FOR THE FUTURE PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO MAKING THIS WORK DESIGN VOLTS NOW ARE STILL TO PROVIDE A COMPETITIVE AND HIGHLY MARKETABLE FACILITY. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST DEMAND, POTENTIAL LEVEL JUST ABOUT ANY DESTINATION IN THE COUNTRY. 
          AND SO YOU WANT TO LEAD THE INVENTORY OR LEAD THE INDUSTRY WITH A, UH, INVENTORY OF MEETING AND MULTI-FUNCTION SPACES, WHICH HAS BEEN THE GROWTH TREND FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          AND, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT TIME HAS BEEN SKIS PREVIOUS SLIDE WITH THE FACILITIES, LOOKING AT THE DETAILS OF THAT. 
          WE'LL SAY THAT AUSTIN WILL HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF TOTAL EXHIBITION PLUS BONUS PLUS MEETING SPACE, BUT IT WON'T HAVE NEARLY THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF EXHIBIT SPACE, THE GROWTH AND THE, AND THE DEMAND IS IN THE MEETING AND THE BANQUETING SPACE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          RIGHT? AND SO THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE REALLY IS A COMPILATION OF THE PREVIOUS STUDIES FROM THE ORIGINAL LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN TO THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTES, UH, TASK FORCE REPORT, UH, THAT FOLLOWED THE MASTER PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS FRAMEWORK FOR PLACEMAKING. 
          THEY DID LOOK AT THE CONVENTION DISTRICT AND SOME OF THE KEY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT. 
          AND WE HAVE ATTEMPTED, AND I THINK SUCCESSFULLY SHOWN, UH, TO CARRY THESE PLANNING PRESETS FORWARD IS REESTABLISHING THE STREET GRID, IMPROVING THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE, PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE PUBLIC SPACES, INCLUDING THE PARKS AND CREATE DEVELOPMENT PADS THAT WORK WITH THE CONVENTION DISTRICT. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO I'M LOOKING AT THIS. 
          WE TOOK TWO APPROACHES. 
          ONE WAS TO PUT THE HALLS BELOW GRADE, WHICH WAS THAT POTENTIAL WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE UT STUDY IN THE MULTIPLE URBAN BENEFITS THAT ARE ACHIEVED BY DOING THAT. 
          AND IN THIS CASE, YOU BUILD UP FACILITY, BUT ROSS DOES REALLY HAVE SCIENCE THAT ROUGHLY EQUATES TO THE INVENTORY OF THE EXISTING BUILDING. 
          AND THEN IN TWO PHASES DEMOLISHED THE EXISTING BUILDING AND RECONSTRUCTED BELOW GRADE. 
          SO, UM, THE EXHIBIT SPACE WOULD BE BELOW GRADE, THE AREA OF LAND ALONG CESAR CHAVEZ BETWEEN TRINITY RED RIVER UP TO SECOND STREET WILL BE AVAILABLE TO RATE DEVELOPMENT, PARCEL, TO HELP PAY FOR 
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THE FUTURE EXPANSION. 
          AND THEN YOU GET ALL OF THE STREET LEVEL AMENITIES BACK, UH, AVAILABLE TO YOU. 
          WE WOULD HAVE MEETING IN BALLROOM SPACE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE ABOVE GRADE, AND, UH, ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT PADS WOULD BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE RIVER, OVERLOOKING THE WILD CREEK ZONE. 
          IT WAS AN IMPORTANT FOOT, BUT YOU HAD TO KEEP GOING, DAVID. 
          NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT WAS IMPORTANT. 
          IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE STUDY, DID NOT COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC PLAN BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE A NUMBER OF OVERLAYS THAT, UH, CAME LATER. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES WORKING WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE THE FACILITIES WORK WITH THEIR NEEDS AS WELL. 
          SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A THREE PHASE SOLUTION, A TWO PHASE SOLUTION HAULS BELOW GRADE SOLUTION AND HALLS ABOVE GRADE SOLUTION. 
          SO THAT AT THE TIME THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE. 
          AND I BELIEVE SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY IS GOING ON NOW, YOU KNOW, THE BEST OF ALL OF THE SOLUTIONS COULD POSSIBLY FIND THEIR WAY INTO THE FINAL, BUT FOR THE HALL'S UP SOLUTION, THIS WAS SUGGESTING THAT ALL SERVICE TRUCK, UH, ACTIVITY AND EVERYTHING GO BELOW GRADE AND THEN ALL ACTIVITIES RELATED TO THE, UH, CONVENTION CENTER, INCLUDING THE EXHIBIT HALLS ARE ABOVE GRADE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE ONE CASE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE HALLS DOWN SOLUTION TOP SECOND STREET, UH, BETWEEN TRINITY AND RED RIVER BECOMES A LINEAR PARK FOR EVENTS AND FOR CONNECT TO EVERY PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO WALLER CREEK AND IN PALM PARK IN THE LOWER IN THE HALLS UP A SOLUTION ON THE LOWER SIDE, YOU SEE SECOND STREET ACTUALLY BEING OPENED UP AND CONNECTING THE HICKEY COLOR TRAFFIC BETWEEN TRINITY AND RED RIVER. 
          WITH THE ATTEMPT AGAIN, TO REESTABLISHING, YOU KNOW, THE STREET GRID IN BOTH SOLUTIONS, YOU SEE PER SE, SOME ARE OPEN AIR AND SOME ARE ENCLOSED YOU'RE COVERED, BUT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE SHOPPING EXPERIENCES, NOT ONLY ALONG THE STREET SIDES, BUT ALSO INTERNAL TO THE OVERALL COMPLEX AND IN BOTH SOLUTIONS WHERE YOU SEE RED, THOSE ARE ALL CONSIDERED RETAIL, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, DINING ENTERTAINMENT. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD ALSO SEE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF LOCAL VENDORS AND AUTHENTIC AUSTIN EXPERIENCE TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE COMPLEX, NOT ONLY FOR VISITORS COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN, BUT ALSO FOR LOCAL RESIDENTS AND WORKERS DOWNTOWN. 
          THOSE NEXT SLIDE, THE MAJOR FEATURE OF BOTH OF THESE PLANS IS THE ADDITION OF DEVELOPMENT, PADS, REVENUE GENERATION FOR TAX REVENUES, FOR THOSE FACILITIES AND THE, OF, UH, UH, UH, RETAIL SPACES THAT SERVE THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          UH, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER ALONE. 
          THEY CAN'T SURVIVE JUST SERVING THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          IT HAS TO BE THE, A COMMUNITY, A MANATEE. 
          NOW, PLEASE, NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE DOING PHASES ALL DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF AN ISOMETRIC THAT SHOWS WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE CONTIGUOUS EXHIBIT HALL BELOW GRADE ON ONE LEVEL, BUT I THINK IT'S BEST SHOWN ON THE LOWER LEFT HAND SIDE. 
          THE YELLOW IS THE EXHIBITION SPACE CONNECTING UNDER TRINITY. 
          UM, IT ESTABLISHES THE A STREET GRIDS, UH, THIRD STREET PER SALE, AS ALLEN SAID, WHICH IS A PEDESTRIAN PASSAGE, RIGHT EAST WEST, THE NATURAL STREET PER SE, WHERE YOU'RE CONNECTING NATURES FROM NORTH TO SOUTH SECOND STREET, LINEAR PARK, AND THAT CONNECTS DOWNTOWN TO WALLER CREEK AND THEN THE CORRIDOR PALM PARK AND, UH, THE MOST, UH, A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE FOR FINANCING THIS PROJECT IS IT CREATES P THREE DEVELOPMENT PADS, TWO OF THEM ALONG CESAR CHAVEZ, WHICH ARE PROBABLY THE MOST VALUABLE REAL ESTATE YOU HAVE. 
          AND THEN TWO ADDITIONAL PADS WITH RED RIVER FRONTAGE. 
          SO SOLICIT ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PLAN AND BECAUSE I'M GOING TO HAVE MY BUSINESS PARTNER AND CONVENTIONAL WISDOM, PRESIDENT RICK SCHMIDT TO ANSWER ON BEHALF OF A CONVENTIONAL WISDOM PRESENTATION. 
          SO I THINK THE FOLKS WE HAVE LEFT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER OF THEM. 
          LET'S GO BACK TO KATHY SINCE I INTERRUPTED KATHY, UH, NAH, WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS TOO. 
          SO ASK HER QUESTIONS. 
          LET'S PASS ON TO THE OTHER PEOPLE. 
          UH, YOU GO FIRST. 
          THANKS. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I THINK THAT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PREDICTIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION. 
          I APPRECIATED 
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THE CONSULTANT SAYING YOU WOULD PROVIDE US WITH SOME OF THE INDUSTRY REFERENCES. 
          I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE WHO ARE DOING THIS WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, UM, BELIEVE BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND ENTER WHAT POTENTIAL TIMELINES. 
          THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST THAT THE DESIRE THAT WE CAN LOOK TO THE PAST TO SEE THAT IN PERIODS OF RECESSION, YOU KNOW, THE DESIRE, THE DESIRE, THE DESIRE FOR LARGE CONVENTIONS ARE TURNED IN THE DESIRE FOR THESE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES RETURNED. 
          I THINK WE'VE NEVER, WE ALL HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IN SO MANY WAYS THAT, THAT THERE'S SO MUCH ABOUT, MUCH ABOUT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S EXTRAORDINARY THAT IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO PREDICT WHAT AND HOW IT MIGHT CHANGE MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF OUR WORKPLACES, OUR METHODS OF GATHERING. 
          I'M NOT SURE EVEN ONCE IT'S, ONCE WE HAVE A VACCINE AND WE, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY ERADICATED COVID-19, I'M NOT SURE HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE PEOPLE'S PEOPLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE TO WANT TO GO BACK TO LARGE CROWDED ENVIRONMENTS. 
          I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF US HAVE THE ANSWER AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF A QUESTION FOR THE FUTURE IS EXPERTS IN SOME OF, SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE USED TO THINKING ABOUT THIS IN BROADER TERMS. SO I WONDER IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT POINT, UM, YOUR SURETY ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT MIGHT CHANGE IN TERMS OF BEHAVIORS, BASED ON OTHER KINDS OF THINGS YOU'RE SEEING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, LESS KIND OF PAST INDUSTRY TRENDS, BUT WHAT YOU MAKE OF, OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION COMING OUT ABOUT HOW COMPANIES ARE BEGINNING TO RETHINK THEIR STRATEGIES ARE GOING BACK INTO THE WORKPLACE AFTER THIS, OR, UM, GOING BACK TO TRAVELING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MULTIPLE COMPANIES THAT THEY, THEY MAY HAVE FEWER, UM, TRAVEL EVENTS OR TRAVEL BASED EVENTS IN SENIORS. 
          SO YOU COULD KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT POINT. 
          RICK YOU'RE SELLING LIKE A TRIPLE I EMPATHIZE. 
          NICE TO MEET YOU. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT THOUGH. 
          THIS WAS REALLY A QUESTION, I THINK FIRST, UH, MR.  YOU WERE MAKING ALL RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE TO AGREE THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE LONGTERM IMPACTS. 
          THAT IS, IS REAL. 
          AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE SOME HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, LONGTERM IMPACTS OF , UH, SHOPS LIKE THIS SUCH THE NINE 11 BEING THE CLASSIC ONE. 
          AND IT COSTS CHANGE OF BEHAVIORS ABOUT SECURITY THAT WERE LASTING, AND IT CAUSED AN ADAPTATION IN FACILITIES. 
          SUDDENLY EVERY FACILITY HAD A SECURITY PLAN. 
          UH, AND, UM, SO I THINK THOSE KIND OF EFFECTS ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN HERE ONLY THEY'LL BE HEALTH RELATED, BUT WHAT I'VE NEVER SEEN. 
          AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE EVEN SEEING NOW IS A CHANGE IN THE DESIRE FOR FACE TO FACE. 
          UM, IN FACT, I THINK COVERT HAS HAD THE EROTIC EFFECT OF REINFORCING THEIR IMPORTANCE. 
          IF IT WERE AN IMPORTANT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO HAVE FACE TO FACE LEARNING IN SCHOOLS, THE ISSUE OF BEING ONLINE, WOULDN'T BE SUCH A MASSIVE ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD READILY ACCEPTED. 
          IT'S THE FACT IS KIDS NEED TO BE TAUGHT IN PERSON AT EVERY LEVEL FROM PRESCHOOL THROUGH GRADUATE SCHOOL. 
          RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT THAT IS TRUE OF BUSINESS INTERACTIONS IS TRUE OF INTERACTIONS ON MEMBERS OF ASSOCIATIONS OR FRATERNAL GROUPS, ALL THE KINDS OF GROUPS THAT USE CONVENTION CENTERS THAT BASIC HUMAN NEED IS FOUNDATIONAL AND IS GOING TO BE THERE. 
          SO WE'LL FIND A WAY TO ADAPT TO THE HEALTH REQUIREMENTS AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE NEW SANITATION, UH, PROCEDURES WE'LL HOPEFULLY WE'LL DEVELOP PLANS TO DEAL WITH THE NEXT, UM, ENDEMIC MORE EFFECTIVELY BASED ON THIS EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THAT AT ADAPTATIONS ARE LIKELY TO 
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BE MADE, BUT THE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL DEMAND IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. 
          THAT'S MY VIEW ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I THINK THAT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL, UM, AND INFORMED RESPONSE AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YOU'VE GIVEN IT'S VERY, YOU'VE BROUGHT UP SEVERAL GOOD POINTS AND I THINK THE COMPARISON TO NINE 11 IS PROBABLY MORE APT THAN COMPARISONS TO EARLIER PANDEMICS AND OTHER RECESSIONS AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I KNOW THAT YOU WERE PLANNING ON PROVIDING US WITH SOME RESOURCES TO THE EXTENT THAT ANY OF THOSE BRING, UH, THAT EXPERIENCE AND DECIDE THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL TO US. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION I WANTED TO, I THINK THIS IS FOR MR. HAZLETT. 
          UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU A BIT MORE, YOU WERE HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE TRENDS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN CONVENTION CENTER BUSINESS. 
          SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING ARE ONE OF THE TRENDS YOU MENTIONED. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS, I THINK YOU CHARACTERIZE IT IN THE FOCUS OF COMPETITION. 
          COMPETITION IS ON THE DESTINATION, UM, TO UNDERSTAND DOES THAT, IS THAT MEAN THAT, UM, BUT REALLY IT'S THE PLACE THAT'S AUSTIN AND AUSTIN'S BRAND THAT IS, IS A BIG PART OF THE COMPETITIONS FOR, UM, FOR EVENTS. 
          THIS IS THAT WE'RE TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN THIS INDUSTRY, THE DESTINATION DECISIONS ARE MADE BY ACTUALLY A RELATIVELY SMALL HANDFUL OF PEOPLE. 
          UH, IF, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH INDEPENDENT LEISURE AND BUSINESS TRAVEL, THOSE, THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE EVERY DAY, RIGHT? UH, BUT IN THE CONVENTION INDUSTRY, THOSE DECISIONS ARE MADE BY EVENT PLANNERS THAT MIGHT CONTROL THE DESTINATION FOR 20,000 PEOPLE, ONE, ONE PERSON, OR ENTER BOARD OF THEIR ASSOCIATION, MAKING THAT DECISION FOR, FOR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OR HUNDREDS OF DIFFERENT CASES, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE FENCE. 
          SO THEIR, UH, THEIR PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED TO ADAPT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DEMAND IS, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN I GET THERE? UH, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SHOW UP BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE RADICAL TRAUMA EVENT, UH, THE HAPPINESS OF MY ASSOCIATION OR MY BUSINESS, UH, AND WHAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE? UM, SO, UH, IT USED TO BE THAT YOU COULD MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY BY PROVIDING ADEQUATE HOTEL AND FUNCTION SPACE. 
          AND, UM, BUT THAT'S NO LONGER TRUE BECAUSE THE VARIOUS CITIES ALL HAVE THAT OFFERING. 
          AND SO THAT'S KIND OF AN, UH, AN EQUALIZER. 
          AND WHAT REALLY MAKES THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW MANY PEOPLE TO GET TO THE DESTINATION TO MAKE AN EVENT SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND ARE THEY GONNA HAVE A POSITIVE VISITOR EXPERIENCE? UM, ARE THEY GOING TO GET THE ENTERTAINMENT THEY NEED? UM, ARE THEY GOING TO FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE? UH, ARE THEY GOING TO, UH, UH, REALLY ENJOY THEMSELVES WHILE THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS? AND SO THAT'S WHY DESTINATION IS, IS, UH, A BIG FACTOR IN WHAT HAS BEEN TRUE FOR AWHILE. 
          IT'S JUST THAT THE COMPETITION BECOMES MORE INTENSIVE AS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF URBAN REVITALIZATION ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DECADES. 
          UM, AUSTIN BEING KIND OF AT THE CUTTING EDGE OF THAT, FORTUNATELY. 
          AND, UH, SO IT REALLY PROVIDES THAT APPEAL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT YOU MEANT. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL THEN MY OTHER QUESTION, I THINK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN I WANT ME TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THE P THREE DEVELOPMENT PADS. 
          I THINK HE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT BETTER RELATIONSHIPS. 
          UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU MEANT? YEAH. 
          WELL, WHILE HE'S GETTING HIS AUDIO, THIS IS HOLLYWOOD. 
          THIS IS PART OF THE PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE WERE ASKED TO PLAN FOR WAS THE INCLUSION OF A PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT ON SOME OF THE LAND THAT THE CITY CURRENTLY HOLDS, UH, KNOWING THAT FUNDING FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, WOULD BE CHALLENGING WITHOUT, UH, ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDING. 
          UH, IT WAS SEEN AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AGAIN, THESE PRIVATE SECTOR FUNDING, UH, FROM EITHER THE LEASE OF THE LAND OR FROM INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, AS, AS THOSE SECOND AND THIRD PHASES, UM, OCCUR VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE WEST EXPANSION 
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WITH, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION BEING VERTICALLY INTEGRATED WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          AND, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THERE WERE DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO HOW THAT P THREE DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR. 
          UM, BUT THE TWO AREAS THAT OBVIOUSLY WERE CONSISTENT IN BOTH SCENARIOS WAS DEVELOPMENT PATHS ALONG, UH, RED RIVER, NEAR FOURTH STREET, AND THEN ALONG CESAR CHAVEZ, UH, AND SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IN EACH ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS, IT REALLY USED THE PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          SO THAT IN ONE, UH, SCENARIO, THIS WAS THE HALLS UP, IT ALLOWED FOR A MUCH LARGER EXPANSION OF PALM PARK, BUT ON THE OTHER SCENARIO, IT ALLOWED FOR A MORE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, KNOWING THAT THE CONVENTION HALLS WERE DOWN BELOW GRADE. 
          SO THEY JUST PROVIDED DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO WORKING WITH PRIVATE, THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND GETTING THOSE DEVELOPMENTS DONE ALONG WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS I'M SORRY IF I MIGHT ADD TO WHAT ALEX WAS SAYING, WE DID ASK THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AND ALL OF THE POSSIBILITIES WITHIN THIS STUDY, MEANING THAT NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DESIGNED. 
          WE SIMPLY WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER AND WITH A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF IT, OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHAT THEN AVAILABLE SPACE WOULD BE LEFT TO RETURN BACK AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT THERE BE FOR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT THE CITY DEEMS WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF THAT SPACE. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE ASKED THEM TO WRITE US WITH ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, BUT NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          AND IT WAS REALLY JUST TO SHOW YOU THE POSSIBILITIES OF, UH, OF WHAT MAY BE AVAILABLE. 
          I'M SORRY, THAT'S TRISHA WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          I THINK I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY TOPIC. 
          IT'S VERY EXCITING TO THINK ABOUT THE INTEGRATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER WITH THE, UM, KNOW THE RESTAURANTS AND MUSIC VENUES AND OTHER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE DOWNTOWN AREA AT AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE CITY. 
          BUT, UM, SO I APPRECIATE SEEING THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. 
          SO THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR LATER THEN, BECAUSE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FINANCING MODEL ITSELF IS STILL UNDER THE ROTMAN WILL BE COMING TO IN SPRING. 
          SO I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT IN MY RIGHT ON THE PRESENTATION OF THE FINANCING MODEL WILL COME, WILL COME LATER. 
          THAT'S QUITE RECALLED. 
          KATIE'S GOING TO JUMP IN. 
          I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THEN WE WILL ALSO BE BRINGING BACK A LARGER FINANCING PLAN TO YOU IN THE SPRING. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN, UM, P THREE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL FOR WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES AND MUSIC AND ARTS VENUES, ALL SEPARATE. 
          THOSE ARE ALL FINANCING KIND OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION COUNCIL MEMBER? TOVA, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I WANTED TO JUST SPEAK TO THE DESIGN FOR A LITTLE BIT AND TO STEP BACK AND APPRECIATE, UH, APPRECIATE REALLY THE RECONCEPTUALIZATION OF WHAT AND HOW THE CONVENTION CENTER COULD FUNCTION WITHIN THIS PART OF DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, OR I GUESS OUR MANAGER, ARE WE SCHEDULED AT SOME POINT TO APPROVE OR TO COMMENT ON OR DISCUSS THE UPDATE TO THE LONG RANGE MASTER PLAN? OR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT IN TODAY'S CONTEXT, COUNCIL MEMBER AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS IN TODAY'S CONTEXT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THIS UP AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT UPDATES MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. 
          THANKS. 
          SO ONE THING, YOU KNOW, IT ALL FITS TOGETHER FOR ME BECAUSE YEAH, I'M VERY EXCITED BY THE NEW DESIGN. 
          I THINK IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE RESOLUTION THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, THAT OTHERS OF MY COLLEAGUES, UM, CO-SPONSORED THAT WAS, THAT WAS SUPPORTED UNANIMOUSLY, WHICH WAS TO REALLY RECONCEPTUALIZE AGAIN, RECONCEPTUALIZE, HOW DO WE APPROACH THIS AREA OF DOWNTOWN? AND IT WAS VERY HOLISTIC, 
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UM, AND ASKED ALL OF, ALL OF THOSE WERE INVOLVED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THEMSELVES AS PART OF A PALM DISTRICT. 
          SO ONE, ONE THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THERE ARE MULTIPLE REFERENCES IN THE UPDATE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF SEA CHANGE THAT WE HAD HOPED TO EFFECT IN BRINGING FORWARD THAT RESOLUTION. 
          AND AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT HOW DOES THE WATERLOO GREENWAY THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE DOWNTOWN CAP, METRO STATION, UM, PARK, HOW DO THESE ALL ON SCHOOL, HOW DO THESE ALL FIT TOGETHER INTO ONE DISTRICT THAT WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT AS A PALM DISTRICT RATHER THAN CONVENTION CENTER? YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT IT AS A CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT, I THINK DOESN'T RECOGNIZE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AS A DOWNTOWN AND AS A CITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONFLUENCE OF, UM, REALLY FABULOUS PROJECTS THAT ARE ABOUT THAT NEED TO HAVE PLACEMAKING AT ITS CENTER. 
          AND SO NOT KIND OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AT ITS CENTER, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR NEW CONVENTION CENTER SHOULD, SHOULD, UM, WORK WITHIN THAT, THAT LANGUAGE THAT YOU JUST GAVE US, UM, ABOUT WORKING TO CREATE A DESTINATION. 
          SO SUCH AS THAT, I WANNA, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT I WOULD REALLY ASK AS WE WERE APPROACHING THAT OUR APPROACH AND OUR LANGUAGE BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT. 
          UM, AS PART OF THAT, I AM INTERESTED IN HAVE SUBMITTED SOME QUESTIONS TO THE Q AND A ABOUT HOW WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN FROM OUR GREAT PARTNERS THAT YOUTUBE HELPED US THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, HOW THEY'VE, WHAT THEIR COMMENTS ARE ON THIS, HOW WELL WE'RE THIS UPDATE AND THIS DESIGN LIFTS OUT THAT VISION OF REALLY HELP BRING US REIMAGINE OUR, OUR DOWN OUR SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF DOWNTOWN FOR ME THOUGH, THE CHALLENGE IS AS WE, AS WE CONSIDER WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA THIS WEEK, UM, AND CON AND MOVE FORWARD WITH POTENTIALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE EAST EASTERN PORTION UNDERWAY, WHAT HAPPENED, I'M SORRY, THE WESTERN PORTION, WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT EASTERN PORTION IS CRITICAL. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, EXPANDING, EXPANDING TO THE WEST FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, GREAT SENSE WHEN WE CREATE THAT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PUBLIC PLAZA EXPANDED ON PARK ON THE EAST. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND THAT OUR CONVENTION CENTER STAFF WANTED TO SEE A MULTITUDE OF OPTIONS. 
          THE ONE THAT WE ASKED TO SEE WAS THE ONE THAT INVOLVED THAT TAKING DOWN OF THE SPACE. 
          I'M GLAD WE SEE THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M IN A QUANDARY ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          HOW DO WE GET THAT REALLY CODIFIED IN AN AGREEMENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD? BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE INCREASING THE CONVENTION CENTER SPACE, WHICH IS GOING TO FUNCTION DIFFERENTLY, AND I, I HOPE FUNCTION FOR MULTITUDE OF PURPOSES BEYOND JUST CONVENTIONS AND HAVE LOTS OF LOCAL USES AND ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK ARE REFLECTED IN THIS DESIGN. 
          I AM, I WANT US TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL THAN AT WHAT, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE ON THAT EASTERN PORTION AND THAT IT IS NOT JUST, UM, INCREASED DEVELOPMENT IN THAT INTERFACE WITH WATERLOO, WITH THE WATERLOO GREENWAY AND WITH PALM PARK. 
          AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO GO FROM THERE. 
          I DID WANT TO MENTION, I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT POINT THAT I THINK THAT WAS A LARGE PART OF WHY WE HAD, UH, EXCITEMENT ABOUT, ABOUT THE UT CONCEPTUAL STUDY, BECAUSE IT DID, IT DID INVOLVE THAT BALANCE OF INCREASING, INCREASING SPACE AND INCREASING THE DENSITY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT, MAKING IT MORE OF A DESTINATION, MAKING IT MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY LOCALS AND A PLACE PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CONVENTIONS, BUT ALSO THAT TRADE OFF ON THE EASTERN SIDE. 
          SO ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT FROM OUR STAFF ON WHERE, AND WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THAT IS, UM, AND THEN IF I'M THE LAST QUESTION, OR I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE PALM DISTRICT PLANNING INITIATIVE, I SEE OTHER PEOPLE RAISING THEIR HANDS AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          IF YOU COULD COME BACK TO ME THEN FOR THAT LAST QUESTION, BUT, BUT IF OUR STAFF HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT EASTERN PORTION AND WHERE WE GO FROM WAY AROUND THAT THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY COMMITTED TO THE SAME VISION, UM, THAT YOU'VE SPOKEN ABOUT. 
          WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN EARNEST WITH THREE THAT IN THE PALM DISTRICT MASTER PLANNING GROUP, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CAPITAL METRO ON PROJECT CONNECT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE INTEGRATING THE, IN THAT WE ARE CREATING AN ENTIRE DISTRICT THAT IS NOT A CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT. 
          IT IS AN REAL RE-IMAGINING OF THAT ENTIRE EASTERN EASTERN QUADRANT OF THIS PORTION OF DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, 
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WE ENGAGED WITH A UT THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE REVIEWED OUR MASTER PLAN UPDATE. 
          WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ON THE PHONE, UH, BETWEEN, UH, ALLEN WITH GENSLER AND ALSO CONVENTIONAL WISDOM WHO, UH, AND ALAN WITH UT WILL BE PROVIDING SOME OF THOSE FEEDBACK AND RESPONSES TO YOU IN WRITING SO THAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, FULLY, UM, ABREAST OF THE SITUATION. 
          UM, IT IS CERTAINLY, UM, WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE VISION AND TO THE GOAL OF RE RE-IMAGINING THIS ENTIRE AREA, WHICH IS WHY YOU'LL HEAR EXCEPTIONAL EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY. 
          WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, UH, RECOMMENDING AS A STAFF THAT WE BEGAN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EASTERN SIDE SIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, IN, IN, UH, PARALLEL WITH THE DESIGN OF THE WESTERN SIDE, SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING, UM, BOTH THE WEST AND THE EAST SIMULTANEOUSLY, WHILE BRINGING BACK TO YOU, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, MOST IMPORTANTLY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING SOMETHING THAT WILL BE, UH, WHAT EVERYONE IS EXPECTING, UM, AND HAPPY WITH. 
          UM, SO IT IS NOT THE INTENT TO DESIGN THE WEST SIDE AND THEN START TO DESIGN THE EAST SIDE. 
          WE REALLY WANT TO DO THAT IN PARALLEL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY FLOURISH, UM, AND BE EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN IMAGINED KIND OF WITH, WITH REDEVELOPING, THE ENTIRE PORTION, THIS PORTION OF DOWNTOWN. 
          CAN I JUST ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE REPORT THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, UM, HAS TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS CONTEMPLATING FOR THE EASTERN SIDE ONE. 
          THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE AND CREATE MORE SPACE FOR PALM PARK AND THE OTHER THAT ENVISIONS BUILDINGS IN THAT SPACE. 
          AM I, AM I MISUNDERSTANDING? UH, NO. 
          THE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, UM, WERE GIVEN FOR HALLS DOWN INTO HALLS UP APPROACH. 
          HOWEVER, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE HOSE GUN APPROACH WITH THOSE BUILDINGS ON THAT LAND DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THE BUILDINGS NEED TO, TO GO THERE. 
          IT WAS JUST SIMPLY TO SHOW WHAT THE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES WERE, UM, FOR DESIGN, UH, WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          UM, SO IF WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO HAVING THOSE PARCELS OF LAND, THERE'S CERTAINLY ECONOMIC VALUE, UM, TO THE PARCELS ON THE LAND. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING THROUGH, UM, PART OF THE FINANCING PLAN FOR THAT POTENTIAL EASTERN REDEVELOPMENT, BUT AGAIN, NOTHING, UM, NOTHING HAS BEEN SET IN STONE. 
          WE HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEGAN THE DESIGN OF THE EASTERN SIDE. 
          UM, AND SO ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE AT THIS POINT. 
          AND I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT AND WONDERING ABOUT IS, UM, MY FEELING AT THIS POINT IS THAT I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE I WANT ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE ON THE EASTERN SIDE. 
          I FEEL AT THIS POINT THAT WE MIGHT AS A COUNCIL, WANT TO BE MORE DIRECTED ABOUT THAT EASTERN, ABOUT HOW WE WANT THAT EASTERN SIDE DESIGN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND AS DEVELOPED WHAT HAPPENED ON THE EASTERN SIDE WAS VERY MUCH PART OF GETTING SUPPORT FOR WHAT HAPPENS ON THE WESTERN SIDE. 
          SO YOU DO THAT, THAT INCREASED PUBLIC SPACE ON THE EASTERN SIDE WAS AN IMPORTANT REASON OF WHY I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE EXPANSION TO THE WESTERN SIDE. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY FOR MY COLLEAGUES MORE THAN THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT I AM, I AM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. 
          I THINK WE NEED AS A COUNCIL TO BE MORE DIRECTIVE ABOUT WHAT WE WANT DESIGNED ON THAT EASTERN SIDE AND WELCOME MY COLLEAGUES. 
          THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M APPRECIATE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER  YOU ON THIS. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH NOT HAVING THE UT STUDY RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPOSAL IS REALLY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT CARRIED OVER FROM THAT SCENARIO FIVE AND, AND WHAT, AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T. 
          AND I THINK YOUR COMMENTS, UM, GOT AT SOME OF THAT CLEARLY. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS THE TOTAL TRANSFORMATION FOR, FOR THAT PART OF THE DISTRICT, TOTALLY APART FROM THE PIECES AND THE BENEFITS THAT COME FROM, UH, RENOVATED, UM, CONVENTION CENTER. 
          UM, I WANTED TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT TO THE COVID PART AND MS. PETRA, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME UNCERTAINTIES AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. HUDSON SKIS POINT OF VIEW. 
          AND A LOT OF THAT, UM, HELP HELPS ME TO CLARIFY MY THINKING. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEFORE US THIS WEEK, UM, THE PART OF HOW I'M THINKING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE STILL HAVE FLEXIBILITY, I SUPPOSE, CAN TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO DO THE DESIGN AND WE'LL HAVE SOME, WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CERTAINTY BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROCEED TOO FAR WITH THE NEXT STEPS OF THE DESIGN. 
          UM, BUT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, I MEAN, IN MY VIEW, WE WOULD WANT TO REDEVELOP WHERE THE CONVENTION CENTER 
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IS SO THAT WE COULD CHANGE THE NATURE OF THAT PLACE. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT A DEAD ZONE AND THAT WE COULD GO UP HIGHER, NO MATTER, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHETHER WE'RE ULTIMATELY EXPANDING THE FOOTPRINT OR NOT, THAT THAT WOULD BE BETTER, UM, FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW? SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, AM I RIGHT THAT WITH THE PHASING, EVEN IF WE'RE DESIGNING THESE TOGETHER, UM, THERE'S STILL THE FLEXIBILITY. 
          IF THERE'S A MAJOR SHIFT FOR US TO PIVOT AT A LATER STAGE, IF WE FOUND THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO, UM, BUT THAT THE SPACE THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING IN THIS PHASE ONE, UM, WE WOULD NEED EVEN JUST TO STAY WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, IF WE WANTED TO THEN KIND OF BUILD, UM, DIFFERENTLY AROUND THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER TO ADDRESS CHANGING DEMANDS, SHOULD THEY ARRIVE? YEAH, THIS IS ALAN. 
          IF I, IF I COULD JUMP IN, UH, THE, THE, THE PART OF THIS MASTER PLAN WAS TO PROVIDE OPTIONS TO THE CITY, AS, AS CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY HAS CHANGES IN THE MARKET AS CHANGES IN OUR CULTURE AND SOCIETY CHANGE. 
          BECAUSE AS YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE, WHETHER IT'S TWO PHASES OR THREE PHASES, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE OVER THE NEXT EIGHT TO 10 YEARS, AND A LOT CAN CHANGE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND SO IF THE WEST EXPANSION IS THE ONLY PART THAT EVER TAKES PLACE, THEN YOU WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. 
          UH, AND IN FACT, WITH, WITH A LARGER AMOUNT OF SPACE, WHETHER IT'S MEETING SPACE, UH, EX EXCAVATION SPACE, BUT THE IDEA, AND AGAIN, LOOKING TO THE UT PLAN AS A GUIDE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO LOOK BEYOND THIS WESTERN EXPANSION AND SHOULD THE MARKET ALLOW FOR THIS AND THE CITY IS READY FOR THIS, AND THE DEMAND IS THERE. 
          THEN WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING TO THE EAST. 
          UM, THE POINT OF, OF DESIGNING ALL OF THIS AT THE SAME TIME MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          AND I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A DESIGN THAT TAKES A DECADE OR TWO AFTER THE FIRST PHASE, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T NECESSARILY FIT WELL DIFFERENT ARCHITECTS, UH, DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          AND SO I THINK AT LEAST I HAVE THE PLAN IN PLACE THAT SAYS, SHOULD THIS GO FORWARD IN A POSITIVE SPIN, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE. 
          AND IT STILL REFLECTS THE IMAGES IN THE VISION OF THE CITY AT THE TIME, WHICH IS, IS, IS TODAY. 
          THANK YOU PLAN. 
          AND THE PLAN ALSO WAS REALLY, I MEAN, OUR CHARGE WAS TO HOW DO YOU MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT AS POTENTIAL REVENUE OUT OF THE, THE SIX CITY BLOCKS THAT THE CITY OWNS AS WELL AS WITH THE EXPANSION TO THE WEST. 
          AND I THINK TRICIA HIT IT ON, DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST IDEAS FOR MEETINGS LIKE TODAY, YOU TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WORKS BEST FOR US. 
          WE WANT A LARGER EXPANSION OF THE PARK. 
          WE WANT TO OPEN UP THE STREETS AND KEEP LARGE TRUCKS OUT OF THE CITY. 
          AND THIS PLAN SPEAKS TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT UNTIL YOU BRING THE DEVELOPERS AND POTENTIAL PARTNERS TO THE TABLE, THIS HAS TO REMAIN SOMEWHAT FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD ALOOF. 
          SO THAT, SO THAT THOSE EXTRA LAYERS OF, OF AGAIN, PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT NEEDS CAN BE INFUSED WITH THIS, UH, TO FIND THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION THAT WORKS WELL BASED. 
          PART OF THE CHALLENGE, ALAN, IF I CAN, A BIG PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BALANCE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AND PUBLIC SPACE WITH THE NEEDS AND DEMANDS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND APPEALING TO THAT CLIENT MARKET AS BEING THE PEOPLE THAT GENERATE THE TRAFFIC FOR HOT, THAT PAYS FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND ONE OF THE KEY INGREDIENTS FOR THIS ENTIRE THING IS, DOES IT WORK AS TWO BUILDINGS OR AS ONE? AND FROM THE MARKET PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE ALWAYS ANTICIPATED THAT THIS WORK, THAT ONE AND KEEPING THE HALLS DOWN, GAVE YOU THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT A MORE SEAMLESS CONNECTION WITH BEING LESS INTRUSIVE ON PUBLIC SPACES, BUT IT ALSO PUTS SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT YOU DO ABOVE THAT SPACE. 
          THE CHALLENGE WITH GOING WITH THE HALLS UP IS THAT YOU END UP WITH ESSENTIALLY A 10 STORY BLOCK THAT SPANS ACROSS TRINITY AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S POLITICALLY OR, OR SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE AS ONE OF THE CHOICES IS PART OF WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE MASTER PLAN. 
          THE MASTER 
          [02:25:01]
PLAN UPDATE STARTS TO SHOW WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF SOME OF THESE PIECES AND OUR KEY DECISIONS STILL COMES BACK TO, IS IT ONE BUILDING OR TWO? THANK YOU. 
          IT'S NICE TO HEAR YOU OR YOUR ACTUAL ACTUAL VOICE. 
          I HAVE THE TWO THAT YOU HAD SAID NO EMERGENCY. 
          I APOLOGIZE YOUR BEING HERE. 
          UM, SO, SO THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO, TO COMMUNICATE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, DESIGNING SORT OF STAGE ONE. 
          UM, IT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN THAT EXCITE ME REALLY DO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY TO COME INTO THAT SPACE. 
          UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY ABOUT, UM, ABOUT, UM, HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, SAVING OUR VENUES, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING SCENARIO IS AS WE DESIGN THIS ABOUT HOW WE REALLY BRING OUR, OUR MUSIC AND OUR ARTS INTO THIS SPACE AND HOW THIS SPACE CAN BE USED BY THE COMMUNITY, UM, IN TANDEM WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER. 
          UM, AND I THINK THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE REALLY GREAT, PARTICULARLY WITH THE EXPANSION TO THE WEST. 
          AND I HOPE THAT AS WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, DESIGNING AND TAKING THE NEXT STEPS, THAT WE'RE REALLY, UM, KEEPING THAT IN MIND. 
          AND I KNOW WHEN WE DID THE VARIOUS CONVENTION CENTER RESOLUTIONS, UM, WE INCLUDED THAT AS PART OF THE SCOPE AND I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO CHANGING THE WAY THIS WHOLE QUADRANT FEELS, I THINK THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, ARE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE ONE THIS CHANGE HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. 
          ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ONE? I APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION AS A, AS, AS WELL. 
          I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          I THINK THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF OPEN QUESTIONS. 
          WE NEED TO PROCEED DOWN THIS PATH TO SEE IN RESPONSE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOHO, YOU WERE ASKED FOR OTHERS OF US TO CHIME IN WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE EAST SIDE, STILL CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO REALLY BE ABLE TO REALIZE THE VISION OF, OF MAKING THAT PART OF DOWNTOWN EVERYTHING IT CAN CAN BE. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT MAXIMIZES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR DOWNTOWN TO CONTINUE TO, TO, INTO THE FUTURE, TO FUND SO MUCH OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AROUND THE CITY. 
          SO LOOK FORWARD TO, TO THE ACTION THIS WEEK AND ANSWERING SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, AND I KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE JUST HAD SO MANY PRESENTATIONS, IT'S HARDER IN THIS FORMAT AND UNDER WITH SO MUCH ON OUR AGENDA TO JUST CHAT, BUT, UM, HOW DO WE DO THAT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE FOR ONE OF THOSE TWO SCENARIOS, BUT IF WE HAD A STRONG PREFERENCE AS A COUNCIL FOR ONE OF THOSE TWO SCENARIOS, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND AFFIRM THAT THIS VIEW IN WHAT WE'RE DOING, I MEAN, I'M, I'M GOING TO WORK AROUND SOME DIRECTION AND THAT IT MIGHT BE PART OF WHATEVER ACTION REQUIRED WE'RE CONTEMPLATING. 
          I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR BRINGS UP ANOTHER GOOD ONE. 
          THAT'S COME UP IN THE PAST THAT, THAT WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE STRONG COMMITMENT TO USING LOCAL BUSINESSES AS RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL VENDORS IN THIS NEW SPACE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HOW THAT HAPPENS AT THE AIRPORT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN I THINK IT LOOKS TO THE PUBLIC, THAT THOSE ARE REALLY LARGE COMPANIES THAT ARE, ARE, ARE PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES, UM, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE OUGHT TO REALLY HAVE SOME OF THESE COMMITMENTS OUT OF BITE US. 
          SO PERHAPS WE CAN WORK OUTSIDE THIS SESSION, BUT IF OTHERS HAVE IDEAS ABOUT HOW WE GET THIS AT THOSE COMMITMENTS RECOGNIZED IN A FORMAL MAINTENANCE FEED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT KATHERINE METOVA AND TEEING THAT UP. 
          SO IT COMES BACK FOR THE COUNCIL TO REALLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN. 
          MY SENSE IS FROM THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY UNITED COUNCIL RIGHT NOW ON THOSE PRIORITIES AND IMPORTANCE, UH, I'M ANXIOUS TO SEE HOW THE NEXT PART OF THE CONVERSATION GOES TO SEE WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE ARE WITHIN WHICH WE CAN WORK OR THINGS WE CAN EXPLORE AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          I EXPECT THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS STAFF, TALKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WITH THE POTENTIAL BOND HOLDERS AND THE, LIKE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO US WITH MORE INFORMATION AS THE CONCEPT DEVELOPS. 
          BUT I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBA, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN KINDS OF DESIGN INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE COLLECTIVELY, UH, THAT, UH, MANY WHICH WERE REFLECTED AT UT WORK THAT WE ALL, AND WE ALL LIKED. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION, UH, MANAGER, 
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UH, WE HAVE THE JOHNNY TREVINO PARK, MIKE, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT  SESSION, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, 
          [B3. Briefing on the John Trevino, Jr. Metropolitan Park at Morrison Ranch Vision Plan. (Staff Presentation related to upcoming Council agenda item).]
WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR THIRD PRESENTATION THIS MORNING AND THAT'S ON THE, UH, JOHN TREVINO JR. 
          METROPOLITAN PARK AND MORRISON RANCH VISION PLAN. 
          AND WE HAVE OUR STAFF FROM PARKS AND RECREATION TO LEAD THAT I BELIEVE THEY'RE COMING ON AS PANELISTS. 
          AND SO AS SOON AS DIRECTOR MCNEELY IS READY, SHE CAN START GREAT QUESTION WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT TRANSITION OF OUR DESIGNERS. 
          IF THEY'RE STILL ON, ARE THEY GONE? I, WE LOST SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I'LL ASK IT THROUGH THE Q AND A. 
          I WANT TO HEAR YOU KEVIN. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          IT'S A VERY NOISY STREET. 
          I'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OUTSIDE TODAY, BY QUESTION, I'LL SUBMIT THROUGH THE Q AND A, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WISH I'D ASKED THE DESIGNERS AS THAT, AS I LOOK AT THAT TO YOUR CONVENTION CENTER, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE AND HOPE THAT WE WILL ALSO, UM, I ASSUME THAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE PUBLIC ACCESS. 
          UM, NOT AT LEAST MOST OF THE TIME PUBLIC ACCESS AND NOT JUST ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE USING THE CONVENTION CENTER, YOU MENTIONED PURPOSES. 
          AND SO WANTED TO KIND OF GET THE DESIGNERS TAKE ON HOW THE EFFICIENT USE OF THAT AND GET ACCESS TO IT. 
          BUT THAT TOO IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PERHAPS THREE MINUTES ON THIS WEEK, MAN, I'M GOING TO BELIEVE IT. 
          Y'ALL GUYS HAD KNOWN WE'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN SOUTH DEAL, UH, DOC, UH, UH, , THEY'RE HAVING THEIR, UH, UH, INTRODUCTION AND, AND, UM, THE, UH, MEXICAN CONFLICT IT'S GOING TO BE SPEAKING AT AT NOON. 
          SO I WON'T BE LIVING OFF FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I'LL BE WATCHING IT ON TV. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          MY HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'LL AT NOON. 
          WE'LL TAKE, UH, AN HOUR LUNCH BREAK, COME BACK AT ONE TO DO PULL DINER. 
          UH, IF I CAN'T BELIEVE WE COULD MAKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          YES. 
          SO HERE'S THE GREAT NEWS. 
          WE'VE GOT AUGUST 27TH, YOUR OFFICES RECEIVED A MEMO THAT SAID THE PARKS AND RECREATION TO PRIME EDGE IS PLEASED TO OFFER INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VISION PLAN. 
          AND SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS IN DEPTH, WE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN SETTING UP MEETINGS WITH YOUR OFFICES. 
          AND SO THAT SHOULD ALLOW YOU TO END. 
          WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED. 
          WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO END THIS PRESENTATION IN THE TIME THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO END THE PRESENTATION TO GET TO YOUR LUNCH BREAK. 
          UM, I AM GOING TO ALLOW THIS PRESENTATION. 
          I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE TO YOU. 
          CHILD'S MADE ME WHO IS A STAFF MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND OUR CONSULTANT, DAVID MALDA FROM GGN, AND THEY WILL PROVIDE YOU THIS PRESENTATION IN ADVANCE FOR AGENDA ITEM. 
          AND AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU JUST ANOTHER GENTLE REMINDER, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS THIS IN DEPTH, OUR DEPARTMENT IS PREPARED TO SCHEDULE INDIVIDUALIZED MEETINGS AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHARLES AND, UM, AND DAVID. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS PARSE FOR CONTRACTED WITH PLAN FOR THE UNDEVELOPED, NOT PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE JOHN TRAVENIA JR. 
          RETRO PARK, AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE OF PRODUCTION THAT YEAR LONG COMMUNITY JOURNEY PLANNING PROCESS, AND ALSO THE VISION PLAN ITSELF. 
          AND IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION COLOR, AND I MIGHT GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO MR. MALDEN, TAKE US THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANKS, JOHN, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT. 
          WHAT'S BECOME AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PROJECT IN OUR OFFICE. 
          AND ONE WE FEEL IS VERY VALUABLE FOR THE CITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. 
          THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BY PART IN 2003, 
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IN 2006, IT WAS NAMED AFTER JOHN TREVINO, JR. 
          AND I WANT TO STRESS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IN TERMS OF THE PARKS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S BEEN CENTRAL TO THE ENTIRE STORY AND PROCESS OF THE PARK TO THINK ABOUT HOW MR. TREVINO'S LEGACY IS A PART OF THIS PLACE. 
          IT'S 330 ACRES, ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THAT SITS IN A FLOOD PLAIN, WHICH PUTS A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS ON THE LAND. 
          AND ALSO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE'S SIGNIFICANT RIVER FRONTAGE AS A PART OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN AND THE PARK ITSELF SITS, UM, TO THE EAST OF ONE 83. 
          AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT'S HISTORICALLY NOT BEEN SERVED BY A LARGE PARK, UM, AND IS GOING TO BE CHANGING AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH, STARTING IN MARCH HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT EACH STEP. 
          WE BEGAN WITH ANALYSIS OF THE SITE, WHICH INFORMED THE DESIGN THINKING, BUT WE ALSO WORKED TO DEVELOP A SHARED VISION WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SO THAT THE VISION PLAN, ISN'T JUST A DRAWING OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE SOMEDAY, BUT REALLY AN DOCUMENT THAT EMBODIES THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          FROM THERE, WE DEVELOPED CONCEPTS AND A PREFERRED VISION PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT IS IN REVIEW. 
          NOW, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE ENGAGEMENT APPROACH TOOK MULTIPLE FORMATS FROM COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND EVENTS, SURVEYS, AND INDIVIDUAL OUTREACH. 
          AND IT WAS A MIXTURE OF TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY WERE AND ARE, BUT ALSO INTRODUCING THE SITE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S A NEW PROPERTY FOR MANY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, PROCESS WHERE YOU HEARD VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS IS A PLACE TO ACCESS NATURE. 
          IT'S ABOUT TRAILS. 
          IT'S ABOUT GETTING FAMILY OUT. 
          IT'S ABOUT GETTING TO THE RIVER. 
          IT'S ALSO ABOUT HERITAGE AND CULTURE OF THE LATINO COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO THESE WERE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND PRIORITIES FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PARK. 
          AS, AS IT'S DEVELOPED IN THIS PATIENT PLAN, WE ALSO ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD THE EARLY PHASES BE? WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES FOR THE MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE NOW AND PUTTING THAT IN THE CONTEXT AGAIN, OF THE COMMUNITY VISION OF THE PLACE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          FROM THERE, WE DEVELOP THE FRAMEWORK THAT ABOUT THE PROJECT, LOOKING AT ITS INTERSECTION OF THE RIVER AND THE UPLAND PRAIRIE CONDITION. 
          IT'S A UNIQUE ECOLOGICAL MOMENT IN THE CITY. 
          AND VERY IMPORTANT. 
          WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ADAPTING THE HERITAGE OF THE SITE, REALLY BUILDING ON THIS FORMER AGRICULTURAL BRANCH LAND CHARACTER. 
          AND THEN THE NUMBER ONE ON THIS LIST WAS THE OVERLAY OF ADVANCING COMMUNITY THROUGH THE LEGACY OF JOHN TREVINO, JR. 
          SO NOT JUST A NAME FOR A PARK, BUT HOW COULD HIS MISSION SERVE THIS PARK? NEXT SLIDE, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE TWO PRIMARY ZONES BEING BAD OF THE RIVER AS WE'VE CALLED IT, WHICH IS THAT LOWER TWO THIRDS IN THE FLOOD PLAN IN AN UPPER AREA, WE'VE CALLED THE CLARY, WHICH FEATURES A SERIES OF INDEPENDENTLY DEVELOPABLE ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT ARE IMMERSED WITHIN A MUCH LARGER NATURAL SETTING. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE STARTING WITH THE FIELD. 
          THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE EXISTING CONDITION, FAIRLY OPEN FOR A RANGE LAND. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WHAT THIS IS REALLY ENVISIONING IS THE KIND OF CORE COMMUNITY PARKS SERVICES, SMALL PLAYFIELD PICNIC AREAS, UM, SOME RESTORATION IN WILDFLOWER, MEADOWS, BUT A PLACE TO COME TOGETHER WITH FAMILY, EASY ACCESS FROM THE ROAD, ADJACENT AND VISIBILITY, BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S REALLY ABOUT IMMERSING IN THIS LARGER NATURAL SETTING, KIND OF KEEPING IT AS PURE AS IT CAN BE NEXT. 
          HERE'S A PLAN OF THE FIELD AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE PRIMARY COMPONENTS ALSO BRINGING IN RESTROOMS, THOSE KINDS OF BASIC FUNCTIONS AND AGAIN, TRAILS AND NATURAL AREAS THAT WAS SO EMPHASIZED THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE NEXT AREA TO TALK ABOUT IS WHAT WE CALLED THE RAVINE. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE TOPOGRAPHY STARTS TO MOVE DOWN TOWARDS THE FLOOD PLAN. 
          THERE'S A BIT OF GREAT CHANGE, SOME MORE EXISTING TREES THROUGH THIS AREA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE CHARACTERS THAT HAVE PLAY DISCOVERY REALLY FOCUSED ON KIDS. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD WAS THAT THIS NEEDS TO SERVE TEENS. 
          THERE'S NOT AS MUCH PART A ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES FOCUSED ON TEENS. 
          SO THE IDEA OF NATURE PLAY ADVENTURE PLAY AS A PART OF THIS NEXT, AND YOU CAN SEE NEAR THE PLAN, THERE'S SOME CREEKS TO NAVIGATE, UM, BUT A REALLY INTERESTING ENVIRONMENT ONCE DONE SENSITIVELY, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE FARM IS THE NEXT AREA TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OLD BARN. 
          THIS WAS ONE OF THE PHOTOS OF A COMMUNITY EVENT WE HAD THERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE AND IMAGINING THAT THIS IS A PLACE THAT FOCUSES ON COMMUNITY GATHERING, BUT ALSO FOOD DEMONSTRATION AND GARDENING OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT, AGAIN, THAT AGRICULTURAL HERITAGE ACCESS TO FOOD AND RESOURCES. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PLAY INTEGRATED IN THIS. 
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WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO YOU GET OLDER FOLKS, KIDS, UM, DIFFERENT GROUPS MIXING TOGETHER, GREAT PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST AREA OF PRAIRIE LEVEL IS HOME. 
          AND THIS IS AN OLD HOUSE. 
          THE TIME WITH SITE AND AMAZING RESOURCE. 
          IT LOOKS OUT OVER THE FLOOD, PLAIN AND DOWNTOWN. 
          UM, REALLY THE IDEA IS KEEP IT AS IT IS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, BRING IN SOME ACCESS, BRING IN SOME PICNIC OPPORTUNITIES, BUT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE BEAUTY OF THE PLACE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, UH, LOOPING THROUGH THIS IS A ONE MILE WALK THAT'S CURRENTLY CALLED THE COMMUNITY'S WALK, BUT REALLY IT'S IT'S IN HONOR OF JOHN TREVINO, JR. 
          RATHER THAN JUST HAVING A STATUE OF HER PLAQUE, A ONE MILE LOOP THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ALL THAT UNITES THESE DIFFERENT ECOLOGIES DIFFERENT PROGRAM AND ACTIVITY CENTERS AND COULD BE USED FOR EVENTS. 
          UH, IN OUR LAST COMMUNITY MEETING, WE ACTUALLY TOOK THIS WALK WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TALKED ABOUT THE ECOLOGY. 
          ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE LEGACY OF MR. TREVINO. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          DOWN AT THE FLOODPLAIN LEVEL, YOU CAN SEE AN AERIAL VIEW, FAIRLY OPEN FIELD WITH SOME TREES ALONG THE RIVER. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE FOCUS HERE IS REALLY REFORESTATION. 
          WHEN WE TALKED TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEY SAID, WE WANT SHADE. 
          WE WANT TRAILS. 
          THIS IS AN AMAZING RESOURCE, 200 ACRES THAT COULD BE FORESTED ON THE RIVER WITH ACCESS FOR PEOPLE. 
          THERE'S A MIXTURE OF OLD FENCE LINES THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GOOD TO KEEP FOR CLEANER DIRECT ACCESS, AND THEN LOOPING TRAILS AS WELL. 
          NEXT LINE BACK, ANALOGICAL MANAGEMENT OF THIS. 
          I SHOULD NOTE TOO. 
          THERE IS A RIVER ACCESS POINT FOR SMALL NON-MOTORIZED BOATS, UH, RIVER ACCESS AND FISHING IS SOMETHING WE HEARD NOW, PART OF DOING THIS KIND OF PARK IS ECOLOGICAL MANAGEMENT. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE CALLED FOR IN THE VISION PLAN IS TO WRITE AN ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT PLAN SO WE CAN USE RESOURCES APPROPRIATELY, CARRY OUT STRATEGIC EFFORTS TO CURB THE SPREAD OF INVASIVES, INTRODUCE IMPORTANT ECOLOGIES BACK INTO THE SITE. 
          GOOD NEWS IS THERE'S A LOT OF QUINN'S STUFF OUT THERE ALREADY. 
          SO THROUGH THE AMPLIFYING AND BUILDING ON THAT THROUGH STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ADAPTED OVER TIME, LEARNING FROM SUCCESS. 
          NEXT SLIDE HERE, YOU SEE THE NETWORK OF TRAILS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS IS THAT THERE ARE TRAILS ALL THROUGH THE PARK, BUT THEY ALSO CONNECT BEYOND THE PARTS. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BIKE WAYS ARE CONNECTING TO LARGER REGIONAL TRAIL INITIATIVES AND REALLY HERE ALSO FOCUSING VEHICLES ON THE EDGES SO THAT THE PRIMARY EXPERIENCE IS NOT ENCUMBERED BY CARS. 
          NEXT SLIDE AND PHASING REALLY PHASE ONE WITH THE MONEY THAT'S AT HAND IS LOOKING AT DOING BASIC ACCESS, MORE, A TRAILHEAD MENTALITY TO THE PARK, AND THEN BEGINNING THAT ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION AND MANAGEMENT OF THE SITE SO THAT THE BONES, THE KIND OF BIG, UM, GROUND ITSELF CAN BE LIFTED UP AND IMPROVED TO MAKE WAY FOR FUTURE PHASES. 
          TO EXPAND. 
          WHAT WE HEARD AS A PRIORITY OF IS THAT FIELD AREA, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RESOURCES, AS WELL AS ACCESS DOWN TO THE RIVER AND THEN ADDITIONAL PARTNER PROJECTS HERE LIKE THE AGRICULTURAL COMPONENTS COULD BE DEVELOPED ONCE A PARTNER IS FOUND AT APPROPRIATE TIME. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          LOOKING OVER THAT UPLAND TOWARD THE RIVER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO CANCEL MEMBERS, IF YOU'RE SO COMPELLED TO ASK US QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, CHARLES, DAVID AND MYSELF ARE AVAILABLE. 
          OTHERWISE WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A MORE INTIMATE CONVERSATION. 
          INDIVIDUALIZED PRESENTATIONS, IF THAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THIS IS INSPIRING THE WALK. 
          I LOVE THAT YOU'RE USING THE DIFFERENT DOMAINS AND THE ECOLOGY AND THE MELDING OF THE LEGACY, MR. TREVIÑO, TO SAVE US FROM IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          REMEMBER KITCHEN. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, CAN YOU REMIND ME THE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEGINNING TO WORK ON ANY OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ARE BETWEEN ABOUT 3.5 MILLION AND 5 MILLION IT'S IN THE BOND PROGRAM OR SPECIFIC FUNDING FOR METRO PARKS? AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PARKS. 
          AND SO THERE WAS A TOTAL OF 10 MILLION REQUESTED AND IT WOULD BE DIVIDED AMONG OUR METRO PARKS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE WALTER ILAN PLAN. 
          AND, UM, I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT CONSTRUCTION WOULD LIKELY NOT BE HIM FOR AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THIS PLAN. 
          WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR TO GET THE PERMITTING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          HOWEVER, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS NATURAL THAT I MIGHT BE EXPEDITED. 
          SO 
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I NEED A LITTLE HARD TIME TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY ARE TYPICALLY WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER AN APPROVED PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS THIS. 
          SO AFTER THE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS FOR WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP TO APPROVE THE PLAN AND I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO, THE BETTER CAUSE 3.5 MILLION BUYS MORE THAN IT WILL IN A YEAR OR TWO. 
          UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS AFTER THE ONE ON ONES? YES, MA'AM THIS WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNSELOR AND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL, JAN DIED IN OCTOBER FOR YOUR, FOR THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL. 
          AND THEN WE CAN START RIGHT INTO THE OPPORTUNITIES TO DETERMINE HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDING TO GET STARTED ON THE ACTUAL PRODUCT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THAT LAST QUESTION. 
          I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THE FAMILY. 
          ALSO PART OF THAT. 
          AND WERE THEY A PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE MILE ROUTE VERSUS A OR A STATUE OF SOME SORT? YEAH, NOT CHARLES NEIGHBORING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES, BUT HE CAN PROVIDE THE DETAILS. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUOTE YET. 
          THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. 
          IN FACT, WITH OUR SMALL GROUP MEETINGS, OUR FIRST MEETING WAS WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF JOHN TREVINO AND OUR LAST MEETING. 
          AND WE'RE GOOD FRIENDS WITH JOHN TRAVENIA. 
          SO YES, THEY WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED. 
          YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE USUALLY OBVIOUS QUESTIONS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL GET QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HEARD, HEARD THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR. 
          I ALSO JUST WANT TO CHIME IN THAT THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING, UM, PROJECT. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO JUST ASK IF YOU MIND US, HOW MUCH PART PAID FOR THE PROPERTY IN 2003 AND USING WHAT SOURCE REMEMBER? I DON'T REMEMBER CHARLES, IF YOU KNOW THAT ANSWER, PLEASE, PLEASE PROVIDE IT. 
          AND IF NOT, WE WILL SEND THAT ANSWER TO YOU. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          YOU CAN SEND IT TO ME. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T NEED IT TODAY. 
          YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER RIGHT OFF HAND. 
          YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU THOUGH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT OUR TOBA, THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          THIS LOOKS LIKE A REALLY EXCITING PARK AND I, I REALLY AM ESPECIALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WAY IN WHICH YOU EMBRACED, UH, ADVENTURE, ADVENTURE, PLAYGROUND STRATEGIES, AND WONDERED IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A FEW EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE COULD LOOK LIKE WITHIN THIS PARK. 
          AND I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THE EMPHASIS ON, ON HOW, UH, THE PARK COULD ALSO INCLUDE ELEMENTS THAT ARE APPEALING TO TEAMS. THAT'S BEEN A LONG ALONG NEED, UM, AND ALONGSIDE IMMEDIATE AMONG OUR STAKEHOLDERS FOR ARCS ELEMENTS THAT THAT MIGHT APPEAL TO OLDER SOME OF OUR OLDER YOUTH. 
          SO IF YOU COULD GIVE US A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF THOSE SHARED ADVENTUROUS CHINA'S OR DAVID ARE PROBABLY BEST ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          I CAN START NOW BY DAVID. 
          IT'S A GOOD AD. 
          UM, YEAH, REALLY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, ATTRACT THOSE KIDS WHO ARE PAST THE CLAY OUT AGE AND MAY MAKE THEM UP TO YOUNG ADULTS HAVE MAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE EXACT DESIGNS IN MIND, BUT IT MAY BE FEATURES SUCH AS ZIP LINES OR, OR TREE HOUSES FOR GATHERING AREAS. 
          AND ALSO JUST KIND OF BLENDING THAT NATURE PLAY IN WITH THAT. 
          UM, THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S FURTHER DOWN THE LINE AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FIVE TO 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO IT'S AN AREA THAT WE'D LIKE TO REVISIT WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT AREA IS GOING TO CHANGE QUITE A BIT. 
          AND ALSO WE'LL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, THIS PARK IS NOT USED RIGHT NOW. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION IN MASTER PLANNING. 
          UM, WE'D LIKE TO REVISIT IT AND SEE HOW PEOPLE ARE USING THE PARK AND CERTAINLY ENGAGE WITH YOUNGER USERS TO SEE WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE THERE. 
          AND DAVID, IF YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT DESCRIPTION. 
          CHARLES SUITS IT'S ABOUT REALLY BEING IMMERSED AND FINDING THOSE MORE INFORMAL PLAYING OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES. 
          BUT I THINK ALSO FINDING THAT ACTIVE OPPORTUNITY IS A KEY PIECE OF IT. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING TO A PLAYGROUND THERE'S SPACE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PART OF IT. 
          AND THE KINDS OF ZIP ROPES COURSES, THINGS LIKE THAT EVEN COULD REALLY BE A GREAT ATTRACTION AND UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. 
          IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, I ALSO THINK ABOUT CLIMBING FEATURES WHERE THINGS WHERE FOLKS HAVE TO TEST THEIR SKILL LEVEL, RIGHT, WHERE THEY HAVE TO CHALLENGE THEMSELVES, PHYSICALLY 
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CHALLENGE THEMSELVES MENTALLY BY THINKING ABOUT WHAT PLACE MEANS OR HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TRAVERSE A PARTICULAR SORT OF STAND UP NATURAL THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THEM. 
          AND SO IT'S THAT KIND OF IDEA, BUT TO CHARLES CHARLES, HIS POINT, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN THE LINE, WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO PINPOINT EXACTLY WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE, BUT WE HOPE IT WILL BE EXCITING FOR, FOR TEENS TO BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THEMSELVES. 
          THANKS, THANKS FOR SOME OF THOSE EXAMPLES, THEY SOUND LIKE GOOD ONES. 
          AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS DO GREAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND HOPE THAT OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH REGARD TO THAT PIECE WOULD REALLY BE FOCUSED ON, ON PULLING IN TEAMS AND OTHERS TO HELP INFORM THOSE CHOICES. 
          SOME OF THOSE DIRECTIONS, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE MIGHT'VE BEEN 10TH. 
          I THINK YOU REFERENCED FUCKING DIRECTION. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THAT WAS VERY FLANAGAN EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS, THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF A VISION THAT I THINK MAKES SENSE AND IS REALLY KIND OF EXCITING PARK AMENITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT US TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE BETTER ENGAGE WITH TRAVIS COUNTY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PARKS IS THIS IS, THIS IS ANOTHER PARK THAT SITS RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THE CITY. 
          AND AGAIN, LIKE IN THE OLD DAYS, WHEN YOU COULD ANNEX AS GROWTH OCCURRED, THEN YOU COULD REASONABLY KNOW THE PARKS USERS WERE INVESTING AND PAYING THE TAXES THAT FUNDED THE PARKS WE HAVE. 
          I'VE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH BUDGETS NOW TO KNOW THAT THE PARK SYSTEM IS ALSO UNDERFUNDED. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING REALLY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT AS WE ADD AMENITIES, WHICH ARE GREAT. 
          WE ALL LOVE THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE LONGTERM FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY OF THOSE AMENITIES. 
          UM, AND WE KNOW HOW THE POLITICS OFTEN PLAYS AND PARKS ON THE WEST SIDE GET BETTER MAINTENANCE, AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THOSE STORIES AND THOSE EXAMPLES. 
          AND I DON'T WANT TO BE CREATING A, A SITUATION IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO I'D LOVE A LOVE, A SEPARATE FROM THIS VISION, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT AND THERE'S NO REASON TO SLOW IT DOWN. 
          UM, BUT WE NEED A BETTER CONVERSATION WITH TRAVIS COUNTY ABOUT HOW WE COST SHARE IS AMENITIES THAT ARE GONNA NECESSARILY SPUR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT ON THE EAST SIDE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUILD THAT NEW AMENITIES AND THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL APPROPRIATELY PAYING FOR ACCESS TO THOSE AMENITIES. 
          K GRANT, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          SO AN EXCITING PLAN TO SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, COLLEAGUES. 
          IT IS 1158. 
          UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A BREAK UNTIL A ONE O'CLOCK WE'LL COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK AND KNOCK OUT THE, UH, POLL ITEMS. UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE'RE GONNA TRY AND HIT ALL OF THE ITEMS, IDENTIFY FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH. 
          SO HERE AT 1158, WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL ONE O'CLOCK. 
          SO YOU GUYS, WE ARE BACK FROM LUNCH TODAY IS STILL SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020. 
          UM, WE'RE IN THIS VIRTUAL CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GO 
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AND GO THROUGH THE POLL ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BY READY TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S START WITH NUMBER 12. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE, YOU PULL BACK. 
          I DID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON 67 AS WELL. 
          CAUSE MY QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS ARE, ARE THE SAME. 
          UM, BUT I WANTED TO PULL THESE BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. 
          ONE OF THEM WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, UM, AGENDA AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATION ABOUT BOTH UPDATES TO TITLE 25, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE LDC APPEALS PROCESS AND UPDATES TO THE AMANDA SYSTEM. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO KIND OF DAYLIGHT MY THOUGHTS AND SEE IF ANYONE HAD A SIMILAR CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO MOVE THIS INTO A PROCESS THROUGH THE AMANDA SYSTEM THAT IS HAVING, YOU KNOW, IT'S ITS OWN KIND OF ANALYSIS AND, AND VIEW. 
          UM, AND, AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN DEMOLITION PERMITTING AND THE QUALIFICATIONS IT TAKES FOR SOMEONE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TO DO WITH DEMOLITION AND SOMETHING MORE LIKE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. 
          AND I WASN'T SURE IF THOSE WERE VERY SIMILAR LICENSES AND IF THEY NEEDED SIMILAR OR SEPARATE REGISTRATIONS OR KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT 
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WHY, WHY WOULD WANTED TO DO LIKE A DEMO PERMIT TYPE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY HIGH LEVEL THOUGHTS. 
          IS THERE ANY INPUT THAT DST COULD BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE TO HELP ADJUST SOME OF THESE THOUGHTS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, THIS IS DENISE , I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE GENTLEMEN SERVICES DEPARTMENT, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER AS BACKGROUND FOR THESE TWO ITEMS. UM, STEVE BEGAN WORKING ON THE OUT OF FINDINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THE DEMOLITION PERMITS AUDIT REPORT THAT WAS DATED AUGUST, 2017. 
          AND FROM THAT REPORT, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION IN COUNCIL DATED DECEMBER 14, 2017, AND DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO ADDRESS THE FINDINGS OF THE AUDIT. 
          SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE MOVIES TO UPDATE YOU WITH WORDS TO COUNCIL. 
          THE FIRST ONE BEING OCTOBER 18 PAGE OUTLINE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD WORK ON IN RESPONSE TO BOTH THE AUDIT ENTITY, UH, COUNCIL SOLUTION. 
          AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 19, 2019, WE GAVE HIM A DATE ON THE GIMLET IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS, LETTING EVERYONE KNOW WHAT WE THOUGHT ACCOMPLISHED IN OUR LATEST UPDATE WAS DATED JULY 29TH, WHERE WE GAVE UPDATES ON THE CHANGES TO THE DEMO PROCESS. 
          AND JOINING ME TODAY IS BETH CULVER IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND BUILDING OFFICIAL AS WELL AS JAIME CASTILLO, ESSENTIALLY PROJECT MANAGER WHO WERE BOTH LEADING DSD EFFORTS TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES. 
          AND WE DIDN'T LET IT SO BAD. 
          HI, I'M ERIN COUNCIL. 
          UM, SO THE QUESTIONS I HEARD FROM CASTLE NUMBER ELLIS IS YOU'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR DEMOLITION AND FOR BUILDING CONTRACTORS. 
          IS THAT ACCURATE? UM, SO CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROGRAM DESIGN. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS IN MIND FROM THE FEEDBACK WE GAINED FROM STAKEHOLDERS IN 2018. 
          UH, THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE AN INTEREST IN HAVING BONDING AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS, BUT THEN ALSO IN GENERAL, FOR OTHER TYPES OF CONTRACTORS THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF HAVING A METHOD TO, UH, HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE WORK THAT THOSE CONTRACTORS PERFORM SUCH AS WITH EXPIRED PERMITS. 
          UH, WE MAY DISCUSS IF BONDING AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE NECESSARY FOR THE OTHER TYPES OF CONTRACTORS, BUT WITH DEMOLITIONS, YOU'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION THAT WHEN THE WORK IS ACTUALLY CONDUCTED FOR A DEMOLITION, IF SOMETHING DOESN'T GO CORRECTLY, WELL, THE WORK'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          YOU CAN'T UNDO IT, YOU CAN'T FIX IT. 
          UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FOR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS, HAVING AN INTEREST IN BONDING AND INSURANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS, UH, THE ONLY, UH, CONTRACTORS, UM, AT LEAST IN THIS, THIS AREA OF THE WORK WE DO THAT HAVE REGISTRATION ARE OUR TRADE PERMIT CONTRACTORS. 
          SO FOREIGNERS, UH, AIR CONDITIONING, CONTRACTORS, ELECTRICIANS, AND ALSO OUR RIGHT AWAY CONTRACTORS. 
          WE HAVE A LICENSING PROGRAM FOR THAT. 
          SO THE LICENSING PROGRAM FOR RIGHT AWAY, CONTRACTORS DOES INCLUDE BONDING AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM FOR ELECTRICIANS IS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE WE HAVE OUT OF THE OTHER TRADE CONTRACTORS. 
          AND WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS IN THERE FOR EXPIRED PERMITS. 
          IF THEY ALLOW MORE THAN FIVE PERMITS TO EXPIRE, THEN WE ARE ABLE TO SUSPEND THEIR ABILITY TO OBTAIN PERMITS. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS, WE'VE ALSO CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, A SHORTER PERIOD. 
          IT WOULDN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM GETTING NEW PERMITS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          UM, BUT WE COULD HAVE SOME REPERCUSSIONS THAT WOULD MAKE THEM HAVE TO ADDRESS THEIR EXPIRED PERMIT SENATE. 
          AT THAT TIME, THEY COULD BE REINSTATED AND START OBTAINING NEW PERMITS. 
          UM, BUT AS WE WERE DOING THESE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, WE JUST SAW THAT THERE WAS A GREATER NEED, UH, EXTENDING BEYOND JUST DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS AND THE TYPES OF STAKEHOLDERS WE HAD INVOLVED FOR DEMOLITION PERMITS PRIMARILY WERE DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS OR WITH SOME REMODELERS. 
          AND SO WE FELT THAT WE NEEDED A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM THAT REACHED BEYOND JUST DEMOLITION THAT WE REACHED OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS BEYOND JUST THE DEMOLITION STAKEHOLDERS. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THIS RESOLUTION FOR THE CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM IS PROPOSING. 
          AND I CAN CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER THOUGHTS I HAD, UM, I NOTICED THAT ITEM 67 HAD AN AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT, BUT ITEM 12 DID NOT. 
          AND I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT SMALL WOMEN OWNED AND MINORITY 
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OWNED BUSINESSES AND THEIR ABILITY TO DO BONDING AND INSURANCE BECAUSE IN MY EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR A SMALL WOMAN OWNED BUSINESS, UM, THERE WERE SOME PROJECTS WE JUST COULDN'T DO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE BONDING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS AN INTENT ON DOING ONE OF THESE ANALYSIS OR, OR FOR SOME REASON, IS IT NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS IS PROPOSED OR WHAT THE THOUGHTS WERE ON THAT? I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION, HOW IT'S PROPOSED IS CURRENTLY OPEN FOR US TO INVESTIGATE WHAT THE BEST REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE CITY. 
          UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY BARRIERS TO BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN PERMITS BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE PUT IN PLACE. 
          WE, WE AREN'T INTENDING FOR THIS TO PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM DOING BUSINESS, BUT TO HELP PROTECT THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE INVOLVED, UM, THAT ARE HIRING THESE COMPANIES AND THEN ANY FUTURE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY A BALANCE BETWEEN WHICH TYPES OF CONTRACTORS WE'RE WORKING WITH AS WELL AS GENERAL CONTRACTORS CAN BE ANYBODY. 
          SO WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME CONSIDERATION WRITTEN INTO THE RESOLUTION FOR, UH, A HOMESTEAD PERMITS. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE HOMEOWNERS PERFORMING THEIR OWN WORK, THAT THE REQUIREMENTS COULD BE REDUCED FOR THAT. 
          SO I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AN EQUITABLE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO PLACE. 
          THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          UM, SO WHAT WOULD THE DIFFERENCE BE BETWEEN A HOMESTEAD OWNER DOING WORK ON THEIR OWN HOUSE VERSUS DOING THEIR OWN WORK ON A HOUSE? THEY DON'T RESIDE IN, BUT THAT THEY STILL OWN, OH, WELL, WE CURRENTLY HAVE SAID PERMIT ORDINANCE, AND THERE'S JUST A CERTAIN LIMITED AMOUNT OF WORK THAT SOMEBODY IS ABLE TO DO ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY. 
          UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE ALLOWED ARE DEEMED TO BE FAIRLY SAFE FOR SOMEBODY TO PERFORM ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT A LICENSED INDIVIDUAL OR WITHOUT SOMEBODY WITH MORE EXPERIENCE TO PERFORM THAT. 
          WHEREAS IF YOU'RE PERFORMING THAT WORK ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU OWN OR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE IN. 
          UM, AND IT IS REQUIRED TO BE YOUR HOMESTEAD. 
          YOU CAN'T JUST BUY A PROPERTY AND THEN INSTANTLY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THAT WORK. 
          IT'S REALLY INTENDED FOR THE OWNER. 
          THAT'S INHABITING THAT PROPERTY TO DO THAT WORK, BUT IT DOESN'T EXTEND TO A LANDLORD THAT MAY OWN ONE HOME AND RENT IT OUT TO SOMEONE, EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE IN A SECOND HOME, THEY COULDN'T DO THAT TYPE OF WORK ON A PROPERTY FROM ELLEN, BUT ARE LEASING TO SOMEBODY ELSE, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          IF THEY, YOU'RE NOT OCCUPYING THE STRUCTURE AS THEIR HOMESTEAD, UH, FOR THEIR TAXES, UM, THEN THEY COULDN'T DO THAT WORK IF A LICENSED CONTRACTOR IS REQUIRED. 
          UM, BUT FOR GENERAL PERMITTING WORK, WE THERE'S NO LICENSE REQUIRED BY THE STATE FOR THAT WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO THEN THE, THE STATE LICENSING FOR A DEMO VERSUS CONTRACTING, AND NOW I HAVE TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER, AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF THERE WAS A, AN ANSWER TO THAT. 
          MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT IS THERE ANY LIKE EDUCATION AND CERTIFICATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE OR BUSINESSES WHO MIGHT BE DOING THESE TWO TYPES OF WORK? THERE'S CURRENTLY NOT REGULATIONS IN PLACE. 
          LIKE THERE WOULD BE FOR ELECTRICIANS, PALMERS, UM, AIR CONDITIONING, CONTRACTORS, THOSE HAVE LICENSES BY THE STATE. 
          SO THE REQUIREMENTS FOR JUST A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, WHO'S DOING BUILDING, WHICH MAY INCLUDE DEMOLITION. 
          AND THEN FOR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS, THERE'S NOT JUST A SINGLE STATE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT TYPE OF CONTRACTOR. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DOES HAVE A, UM, KIND OF LICENSING PROGRAM FOR THEIR DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS. 
          THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO OUR RIGHT OF WAY LICENSING PROGRAM, WHERE THE CITY PROVIDES A LICENSE AND THE LICENSE DOES REQUIRE THE BONDING AND INSURANCE. 
          THE CITY DOES NOT LICENSE OTHER TYPES OF CONTRACTORS, UM, BECAUSE THE STATE HANDLES THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE THIS GAP WITH, UH, BUILDING, UH, GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS WHERE THEY'RE NOT REGULATED BY THE STATE. 
          AND CURRENTLY THERE'S NOTHING HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE BY THE CITY AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          INTERESTING. 
          UM, AND THEN IF ANYTHING CHANGES WITH THE AMANDA SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN ENTIRE NEW REGISTRATION PROCESS, IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, WOULD THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY OR HOW, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? CAUSE I KNOW WHAT THAT SYSTEM, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION INPUT DOESN'T LINE UP BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND SO I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WERE UPDATES TO AMANDA OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO OUR REGISTRATION PROCESS, THAT'S JUST STARTING NOW. 
          UH, THERE WERE CHANGES THAT I'M AWARE OF, SHOULDN'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON, 
          [03:05:01]
UM, THE REGISTRATION PROCESS. 
          WE DO REGISTER OUR ELECTRICAL CONTRACTORS OR PLUMBERS, OUR IRRIGATION CONTRACTORS, UM, AND THE HPAC AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTORS. 
          AND SO IT WAS REALLY A MATTER OF, UH, USUALLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE WILL CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LICENSES CURRENT. 
          SO IF THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE CITY, WE WOULD LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO UPDATE SOMEBODY'S REGISTRATION. 
          WE'RE NOT CONSTANTLY CHECKING EVERYTHING, WE'RE JUST CHECKING IT ON A, ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D WANT TO LOOK AT. 
          I BELIEVE THE SAN ANTONIO PROGRAM, IT MAY BE EVERY TWO YEARS, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY LOCKED INTO A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME. 
          SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A QUESTION THAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ON. 
          AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THE, UH, THE PERMITS THAT ARE STILL EITHER OPEN OR EXPIRED. 
          UM, CAUSE I DID HAVE A CONSTITUENT REACH OUT THAT OWNS AN HVAC COMPANY, SAYS IT HAS BEEN A CONCERN WHEN THERE ARE PERMITS THAT ARE PULLED AND THEY'RE JUST SITTING THERE AND PEOPLE WHO END UP TRANSFERRING THAT PROPERTY ENDED UP KIND OF STUCK IN A SYSTEM WHERE THERE'S AN OLD, OLD, PERMANENT THAT EITHER CAN'T BE USED OR CAN'T BE CLOSED FOR SOME REASON. 
          SO I APPRECIATE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT IS ADDRESSED. 
          UM, AND I HAD ONE NOTE ON ITEMS 67. 
          UM, THERE WAS A SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT APPEALS IN CONNECTION WITH DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, BEING LIMITED TO TECHNICAL CODE ISSUES. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK SOMETHING THAT I, I HEARD THROUGH THE LDC PROCESS THAT, UH, NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS JUST WANTED TO BE MORE AWARE OF KIND OF WHAT, WHAT DEVELOPMENTS WERE HAPPENING AND WHAT, UH, WHAT TO KIND OF EXPECT OUT OF A CERTAIN, UM, BUILDING SITUATION THAT THEY MAY BE AWARE OF. 
          AND SO I NOTICED IN THE BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE OF THE 2018 DEMOLITION PROCESS STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK REPORT, UM, BOTTOM OF PAGE FIVE SAYS APPEALS AND CONNECTION WITH DEMOLITION PERMITS ARE LIMITED TO TECHNICAL CODE ISSUES WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF BUILDING AND FIRE CODE BOARD OF APPEALS OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC DESIGNATION APPROVAL OF DEMOLITION PERMITS IS NON-DISCRETIONARY THEREFORE TO THE EXTENT PARTIES ARE SEEKING TO GENERALLY LIMIT DEMOLITIONS, IT WAS NOT THE APPROPRIATE MEANS OF SEEKING RELIEF. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT'S STILL STAFF'S CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATE LAW. 
          I, YEAH, THAT'S STILL OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO APPEAL FOR, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, UM, TO PREVENT THE DEMOLITION, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY DON'T AGREE THAT THAT BUILDING SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE DEMOLISHED, BUT IT IS A BY RIGHT, UM, THAT YOU CAN DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE. 
          THE ONLY REAL PREVENTION IS IF IT'S A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, UM, AND THAT GOES THROUGH THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OR AT LEAST THROUGH OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE TO SEE IF THERE'S, UM, ANY, UH, ANY HISTORIC VALUE IN RETAINING THAT STRUCTURE. 
          BUT OTHERWISE, UM, IF YOU WERE TO APPEAL THE ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT, THERE'S A PERCEPTION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO STOP THE DEMOLITION. 
          AND SO, UM, SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE DISAPPOINTED WHEN THEY FIND OUT THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE RESULT, WHAT THE RESULT WOULD BE AS IF THEIR APPEAL IS VALID. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WAS MAYBE ISSUED INCORRECTLY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE MAYBE THE CORRECT SIGNATURE OR SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSING ON THE APPLICATION. 
          WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR A CORRECTION OF THE ITEM AND THEN CONTINUE WITH THE DEMOLITION. 
          UM, SO WE DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR TO INTERESTED PARTIES, UM, WHAT THEIR RIGHTS WERE. 
          AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON A ECE, IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE SORT OF PROJECT ONE THAT'S LISTED ON PAGE OF FOUR THAT WILL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS AN APPEAL, WHAT CAN YOU APPEAL? AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REALLY CLEAR TO BOTH STAFF AND TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU APPEAL A DEMOLITION PERMIT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMMONLY APPEALABLE VERSUS WHAT CAN YOU NOT APPEAL? FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE NO APPEAL RIGHTS FOR A TREE PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH A DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S NOT CLEAR RIGHT NOW TO TOO MANY PEOPLE. 
          AND SO PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO CLARIFY ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, YOUR CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THESE. 
          I STILL AM, UM, STRUGGLING WITH MY THOUGHTS ON, ON MAKING UPDATES TO TITLE 25 AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY TAKE PLACE WITH THE AMANDA SYSTEM OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          UM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR ANSWERS ON THESE DAYS. 
          THEY'VE BEEN HELPFUL. 
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THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY ELSE ON ITEM 67 HERE, COUNCILLOR FLAT AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I SHARE A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM, FROM COUNCIL UMBRELLAS. 
          UM, I HAD KIND OF TWO QUESTIONS AND I MISSED THE FIRST COUPLE OF MINUTES, SO I'M SORRY IF THIS WAS ALREADY COVERED, BUT THE, THE, THE ITEM ITEM 12 HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BACKUP THAT THE DRAFT RESOLUTION IS, IS REALLY SHORT. 
          AND SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE COME BACK. 
          UM, THE TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE, ONE IS IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION FROM 2017, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY SPECIFIC TO DEMOLITION AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE BUILDING AND WAS ADDED TO THIS, TO THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UM, WHY, WHY THAT GOT ADDED TO THIS WHEN THAT WAS NOTHING, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION THAT LED TO THAT. 
          THAT IS A CULVER. 
          I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE CONDUCTED OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT IN 2018, IT WAS INTENDED TO LOOK AT JUST THE DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM, BUT IT BECAME APPARENT DURING THAT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, THAT THIS WAS NOT JUST A, AN ISSUE WITH DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS AND THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE CONTRACTORS IN THE ROOM THAT NEEDED TO BE THERE TO TALK ABOUT MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, HOW THIS AFFECTS BUILDING PERMIT. 
          SO YOU DO GET INTO DEMOLITIONS WITH BOTH RENOVATIONS AND DEMOLITIONS. 
          AND SO YOU MAY HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT FOR RENOVATION THAT REALLY SPILLS OVER INTO THIS DEMOLITION ISSUES. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING I HADN'T MENTIONED EARLIER. 
          SO YOU DIDN'T, YOU DIDN'T MISS THAT PART, BUT WE JUST FOUND FROM THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT OUR SCOPE WAS TOO NARROW TO JUST DO DEMOLITIONS AND THEN HAVE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT REACH WHAT ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE NEEDING. 
          AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM BOTH CONTRACTORS AND CITIZENS. 
          UM, AND THERE'S JUST A GENERAL INTEREST FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WE GET, THAT THERE, THERE IS AN INTEREST IN REGISTERING CONTRACTORS. 
          UM, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE FORUM TO DO THAT IN. 
          SO WE FELT THAT COMING BACK TO YOU WITH JUST A DEMOLITION CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM WOULD HAVE BEEN INCOMPLETE AT THAT TIME. 
          UH, SO THIS IS OUR RESPONSES TO REQUEST THAT WE BE ABLE TO BROADEN THAT LOOK, UM, AND COME BACK WITH A BETTER ORDINANCE IN THE END, BUT IT DOESN'T THE PROBLEM WITH THE RESOLUTION IS THAT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT WITH CONTRACTOR RIGID REGISTRATION PROGRAM OR, OR WHAT IT WOULD BE ABOUT. 
          I MEAN, I'M REALLY KIND OF STUNNED TO SEE HOW LITTLE IS INCLUDED IN THIS RESOLUTION. 
          UM, THAT ALSO THE EXEMPTION ON, ON RESIDENTIAL, ALL THESE ONE OR TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, WHICH IS A HARDWARE AS IN THE 2017 RESOLUTION THAT CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY OVER 64,000 SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES BUILT BEFORE THE 78 BAN ON LEAD. 
          AND WHY ARE WE EXEMPTING THEM IF THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION? OH, WE'RE ONLY EXEMPTING PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. 
          SO THAT DOES NOT EXEMPT ALL ONE AND TWO FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. 
          IT'S ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A HOMESTEAD PERMIT. 
          SO IF YOU'RE DOING WORK ON YOUR OWN HOME, THEN YOU'RE EXEMPT. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY EXEMPTION THAT WE CONSIDERED DOES THAT INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO DO WORK ON THEIR OWN HOME. 
          SO THAT'S JUST, IF YOU'RE LITERALLY KNOCKING DOWN A WALL IN YOUR OWN HOUSE, AND YOU'RE NOT A CONTRACTOR, I MEAN, THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE, FRANKLY, THAT I'M, I'M NOT SURE I'M OKAY WITH THAT EITHER, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR A SEPARATE CONVERSATION. 
          AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO BRING LANGUAGE ON THURSDAY OR NOT, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTEMPLATE A CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION PROGRAM, THEN YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW THAT PROCESS COULD STREAMLINE THE PERMITTING AND INSPECTIONS, TO THE EXTENT WHERE IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A REGISTERED CONTRACTOR THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SIGNING ON TO SOMETHING THERE'S SOME MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AND THAT MINIMUM REQUIREMENT SHOULD THEN HAVE SOME BENEFIT TO CITY OPERATIONS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE A REGISTERED CONTRACTOR, THAT MEANS THAT YOU'VE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALL JUDGING THE, THE COMPLICATED, VERY COMPLICATED SET OF REGULATIONS WE HAVE. 
          AND AS A RESULT WORKED ON BY REGISTERED CONTRACTOR CAN, UH, HAVE THEIR WORK SITE TO CONTINUE OPERATING FOR MINOR INFRACTIONS. 
          IT CAN BE EXEMPT FROM FULL RED TAG. 
          THEY CAN BE, I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME, SOME BENEFIT TO BEING REGISTERED, CAUSE I'M NOT HEARING WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE REGISTRATION IS. 
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SO THAT I BELIEVE IS PART OF WHAT THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT OR DETERMINING WHAT THIS ORDINANCE SHOULD BE WOULD INCLUDE. 
          WE'VE HEARD BENEFITS FROM THE CONTRACTORS WHO ARE CONCERNED, UM, SUCH AS THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS POINTED OUT. 
          WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CONTRACTORS THAT ARE JUST CONCERNED THAT NOBODY'S BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE OR, UM, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AND THAT DOES AFFECT THE CONTRACTOR THEMSELVES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE FOR ELECTRICIANS. 
          WE HAD REMOVED THAT ACTUALLY FROM THE NATIONAL ELECTRICAL ELECTRICAL CODE AND THE ELECTRIC BOARD, WHICH INCLUDES REPRESENTATIVES OF, UH, ELECTRICIANS IN TOWN, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER ELECTRICIANS DID INDICATE TO US THAT THEY WANTED THAT PROGRAM PUT BACK IN. 
          SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THEM, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST PROVIDING AN ONEROUS REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO OBTAIN A PERMIT. 
          AND SO THIS IS GOING TO ENGAGE ANOTHER STAKEHOLDER PROCESS AFTER THIS IS ADOPTED THIS WEEK. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          IF THIS PASSES, WE WOULD ENGAGE A MUCH BROADER STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT GROUP, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST LIMITED TO DEMOLITION CONTRACTORS, WE FELT THAT WE WEREN'T REACHING ALL CONTRACTORS WITH THE DEMOLITION ENGAGEMENT. 
          WE WERE JUST REACHING THE ONES THAT ONLY DO DEMOLITIONS OR THAT DEMOLITIONS AS PART OF THEIR WORK. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT THING THAT THE COUNCIL SEES IS NOT A COMPLETELY WRITTEN ORDINANCE. 
          THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME TYPE OF CHECK IN ALONG THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND NOT JUST CAUSE, I MEAN, WE'LL ADOPT THIS THIS WEEK AND THEN WE'LL ALL GET VERY BUSY WITH THE OTHER THINGS AND SHINY OBJECTS THAT ARE ON EVERY AGENDA. 
          BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST ONE MORE CHECK IN. 
          IT COULD BE A THOUSAND COMMITTEE. 
          IF, IF, IF THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE COULD SOLID ENTERTAINMENT, IT COULD BE, UH, IN ANOTHER FORUM, IT COULD BE AUDIT AND FINANCE, FRANKLY. 
          BUT, UM, I THINK A, I CHECK IN ALONG THE WAY MIGHT BE USEFUL AS OPPOSED TO JUST SEEING AN ORDINANCE AT THE END. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS AND A GOOD CONVERSATION. 
          AND I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, AUDIT AND FINANCE MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE FOR IT TO COME BACK TO IF IT NEEDS TO COME BACK BEFORE IT HITS COUNCIL AGAIN, SINCE IT WAS, AS, AS OUR STAFF HAVE SAID, IT, IT WAS INSPIRED BY THE REALLY IMPORTANT FINDINGS OF ABOUT IN FINANCE THAT SHOWED ONE THAT GIVEN THE HUGE NUMBER OF DEMOLITIONS WE HAVE GOING ON, AND I HAVE THOSE STATS I'LL TALK ABOUT ON THURSDAY, BUT THE EXTENT TO WHICH THERE IS VERY LITTLE NOTIFICATION OF NEIGHBORS AND KNOW REAL RELEASING OF ASBESTOS AND THAT INTO THE AIR, THE AUDIT DIDN'T TOUCH ON THAT. 
          THE OTHER WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT PROCESSES, BUT, UM, IT IS, IT IS A CONCERN THAT I THINK IT'S, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A CHECK-IN POTENTIALLY WITH AUDIT AND FINANCE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO JUST URGE THOUGH THAT WE MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY, UM, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT GRAPH VERY, VERY LONG TIME. 
          UM, AND LONG BEFORE IT WAS NOT IT AND FINANCE ISSUE. 
          IT WAS SOMETHING THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS MENTIONED A LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEIGHBOR HAD JUST TORE DOWN A HOUSE THAT WAS VERY LIKELY TO HAVE AS FAST AS THE AIR WAS FULL OF, YOU KNOW, A FOG OR VARIOUS KINDS OF BUILDING PRODUCTS. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WHY DIDN'T THEY KNOW ABOUT IT WITH ENOUGH ADVANCE, NOTICE THE ACTUAL OUTSIDE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD. 
          I JUST WANT TO SIGNAL TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE Q AND A, AND IT LIKELY WILL HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS ON THURSDAY, BUT AGAIN, APPRECIATE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          ANYTHING FURTHER ON THESE ITEMS. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL STAFF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          LET'S GO TO THE NEXT POLL ITEM ON THIS CASE. 
          NUMBER 70, THAT'S SORT OF FLAT AGAIN, YOU FEEL THIS WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS, THIS SITE CALLED, UH, UM, EXPECTING TO HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I CHECKED IN WITH STAFF AND THEY WERE WORKING ON SOME LANGUAGE FOR THURSDAY. 
          UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND REQUESTS THAT I WAS HEARING FROM THE EMS ASSOCIATION. 
          AND SO I THINK, UM, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL SEE THAT DRAFTED FOR THURSDAY, BUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COUNSELOR, AUTHOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH MS. FRANCO AND I WILL HAVE, UM, TWO AMENDMENTS ON THURSDAY AND UNDERSTAND THEY'RE ALSO MAKING A FEW ADJUSTMENTS. 
          I WANTED TO SHARE WHAT, UM, MY AMENDMENTS WERE. 
          UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR SCHOOL FINANCE REFORM, UM, AND FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS. UM, SO THE LANGUAGE THAT WE CAME UP WITH AND I'LL I'LL HAVE THESE, UM, FOR THURSDAY ARE POSTED, UM, AS SOON AS I CAN, UM, IN THE TAX REFORM AND DEBT ISSUANCE, SECTION OF THE AGENDA SUPPORT LEGISLATION AND FUNDING THAT ENSURE SUSTAINABLE SOURCES OF REVENUE FOR HB THREE 2019, WHICH PROVIDES AUSTIN RESIDENTS WITH MEANINGFUL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. 
          [03:20:02]
AND THEN, UM, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY SECTION OF THE AGENDA SUPPORT LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS TO CONTINUE SUPPORT FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS, INCLUDING THE CONTINUATION OF THE TEXAS SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVORS TASK FORCE TO COMPLETION OF THE STATE AUDITORS OFFICES, AUDIT OF THE INVESTIGATION AND PROCESSING OF SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES IN TEXAS AND DECLARING OF RAPE KIT BACKLOGS. 
          SO THOSE WILL BE TWO THAT I MAKE, UM, AS AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN I HAD SPOKEN, UM, ABOUT THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GETTING SUPPORT TO FIGHT WILDFIRES OR NOT HAVING THINGS HAPPEN THAT WERE GOING TO LEAD TO WILDFIRES. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND MS. FRANCO HAS SOME AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE IN THE VERSION THAT WE GET, I GUESS, AFTER TODAY. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? MS. FRANCO? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, UM, THEY ALREADY HAD PASSWORDS THAT ADDRESSED THAT, BUT I CAN INCLUDE IN THE AGENDA AND THAT WILL BE REVISED. 
          THE REVISIONS WILL BE POSTED ON WEDNESDAY. 
          AND THAT BASICALLY JUST MEANS PUTTING WILDFIRES NEXT TO WHERE WE HAVE FLOODING IN A NUMBER OF NUMBER OF PLACES. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSELOR POOL YOU'RE MUTED. 
          OF COURSE I AM. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 
          THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. ONE ITEM WAS ALREADY IN, AND THEN ANOTHER ONE I SENT YESTERDAY TO ADD TO, I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO ADD TO PAGE NINE, THE EDUCATION ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT SECTION SUPPORT FOR LEGISLATION AND FUNDING TO STRENGTHEN THE RESILIENCY OF CREATIVE AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRIES, INCLUDING RESTAURANTS AND BARS. 
          THAT'S GOOD ADDITION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, FOLLOWING ON, UH, OUR ATTEMPTS IN THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO OVERTURN THE BASQUE, THE BAXTER, UH, RULE AGAINST INCLUSIONARY ZONING, WHICH I HAD WORKED WITH REPRESENTATIVE GINA HINOJOSA TO, TO HAVE HER FILE. 
          UM, WE ARE, UH, AND THAT WAS ALSO A PART OF OUR CRUCIAL, UH, LEGISLATIVE AGENDA LAST SESSION. 
          UM, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT WILL CONTINUE. 
          I HOPE IT CONTINUES UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THAT, THAT, UM, DELIBERATION THAT BAXTER IMPOSED ON US OVER. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ISSUE?  GETTING A LETTER FROM, UH, FROM OUR LOCAL PLUMBERS TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN, UH, THE INDEPENDENT PLUMBING BOARD, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR BUILDING STANDARDS HERE. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW IT WAS A MAJOR LEGISLATIVE HICCUP LAST SESSION. 
          SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT ADDRESS THAT. 
          WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT BETWEEN THURSDAY AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTRIA FOR RACING. 
          I WOULD GET BACKLOG ISSUES AS WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 49. 
          THAT'S OUR FLAT AGAIN. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRE AND EMS EFFICIENCY STUDY. 
          I KNOW WHERE I REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          AND I WANTED TO JUST ASK STAFF, YOU KNOW, AS, AS THE, AS THIS GETS KICKED OFF, WHAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE TO ENGAGE WITH A CONSULTANT ON THE PARAMETERS AT THE BEGINNING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF INSIGHT? AND OF COURSE, I MEAN, I WOULD ASSUME THAT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, MOST OF US WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO IF I MAY TALK TO MURDERS COUNCIL MEMBER, FINALLY AGAIN, CERTAINLY HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE A BRIEFING. 
          ONCE WE HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD AND HAVE AN INITIAL KICKOFF TO PRESENT KIND OF THE APPROACH THAT WE'LL BE TAKING IN ORDER TO TAKE A LOOK AT DISPATCH EQUITY AND, UM, THE EFFICIENCY OF HOW WE PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES LOOKING FORWARD. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT TO ME. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNSEL WE'RE KITCHEN. 
          I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE BACKUP. 
          SO, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE US AT THIS POINT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT, BUT, UM, I SEE BACKUP INFORMATION, BUT I DON'T SEE THE ACTUAL CONTRAST WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK. 
          WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO HERE BEFORE THURSDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE SCOPE OF WORK JUST SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON RECORD AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REVERSED. 
          SO CERTAINLY, UH, WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY DEALING WITH THIS PARTICULAR SCOPE OF WORK IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE UPON THE EQUITY AND EFFICIENCY OF HOW WE DISPATCH BOTH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS TO DELIVER THESE HEALTHCARE SERVICES. 
          AND SO ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO COME AT, BUT HOW WE DISPATCH 
          [03:25:01]
TO EMS, WHAT RESOURCES ARE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN AND OUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          IS THAT BETTER? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, THE INTENT IS FOR THE CONSULTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, HOW WE DISPATCH AND RESPOND TO CALLS THAT COME INTO THE CALL CENTER. 
          AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE STANDARDS THAT ARE OUT FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN AS WELL, I THINK UNIQUE TO THIS SCOPE OF WORK IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ALSO CAN ADDRESS EQUITY CONCERNS AND INTERESTS FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          UH, WE'LL ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT RESOURCE ALLOCATION, UM, AND THIS CAN BE CERTAINLY WHETHER OR NOT IT MAKES SENSE TO DISPATCH, UH, FIRE ASSET AS COMPARED WITH A EVEN ASSET. 
          AND THEN CERTAINLY WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN RESPOND, UH, AND PROVIDE SERVICES WITHOUT HAVING TO POTENTIALLY TAKE A PATIENT INTO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, REALLY FUTURE LOOKING KINDS OF RESPONSE THAT WE'RE VERY INTERESTED IN. 
          AND THEN IT TURNS OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE PREVENT HAVING TO RESPOND AND TAKE A PATIENT TO A EMERGENCY ROOM AGAIN IN CONCERT WITH THE OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT DR. 
          SCOTT IS ALSO AVAILABLE HERE FOR, UM, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW EFFECTIVE WE'RE BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE, UM, PROACTIVE KINDS OF, UH, ADVICE, SERVICES, AND SO FORTH. 
          THAT CAN BE HELPFUL IN RAISING THE OVERALL, UM, STANDARD OF HEALTH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I'LL TAKE A PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR THAT DRESS CAPITALIZED TO, UM, ABOUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          IF I HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS OUTLINE JUST DID TO SEE THE SCOPE. 
          CAUSE THAT SOUNDS A LOT. 
          I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          IT JUST SOUNDS A LOT BROADER THAN EXACTLY HAPPENED. 
          JUST EXAMINING HOW WE DISPATCH. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT TO ME, UM, TO, TO READ IT BEFORE THURSDAY, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES MIGHT WANT TO SEE IT TOO. 
          WELL, CERTAINLY MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR ALL COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT POLL ITEM. 
          THANK YOU, DR. 
           NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO. 
          ARE YOU PULLED OUT IN 53? KATHY, DO YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK? YOU READY ON THIS ONE? SO I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS, UM, I HAD TO STEP OFF AND THEN WHEN I CAME BACK, EVERYTHING WAS QUIET AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          53. 
          YOU PULLED THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AH, YEAH, THIS IS, UM, THE COMMODITIES ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY ABOUT THE DELAY. 
          SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT AT THE LAST SESSION. 
          AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE STAFF INTEND TO ASK OUR POSTPONEMENT. 
          I WANTED, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PURCHASING STAFF ON OUR, ON OUR PHONE CALL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF, PART OF MY PITCH IS THAT WE TAKE A REAL BOOK, REAL CAREFUL LOOK AT THIS BUDGET EXPENDITURE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN TRIM, UM, WITH THE INTENT OF REALLOCATING TO MORE IMMEDIATE NEEDS. 
          I, I WOULD, WHILE I WANT, I CERTAINLY WANT TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THEIR INTEREST IN HAVING A POSTPONEMENT, BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE IF THERE, IF WE ARE INTENDING TO POTENTIALLY REALLOCATE THAT FUNDING, I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION TO STAFF IS WHAT, WHEN THEY WOULD INTEND TO BRING IT BACK AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED AT THIS POINT ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER, UM, WHETHER THERE'S STILL A NEED FOR THE KIND OF MATERIALS THAT THIS CONTRACT WAS INTENDED TO SUPPORT. 
          YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT IT, PROBABLY MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD UTILIZE SUCH A CONTRACT ALREADY HAVE LOTS OF ITEMS ON HAND. 
          SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ASKED ABOUT THIS ITEM THAT I KNOW THE STAFF ARE WORKING TO GET ANSWERS ON ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT, UM, WHAT REMAINING INVENTORY THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE, WHAT WOULD BE THEIR INTENDED PLACES FOR DISTRIBUTION, IF, IF THEY TYPICALLY DISTRIBUTE AT EVENTS, I THINK WE KNOW THAT THOSE WON'T BE HAPPENING, UM, AT LEAST IN THE NEAR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY NOT FOR A LONG TIME IN FISCAL YEAR 21. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED. 
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SO I GUESS, I GUESS PURCHASING OUR PURCHASING STAFF. 
          I KNOW, UM, SEAN, SEAN WILL, IT IS I THINK ON THE LINE, IF SHE COULD MAYBE START WITH WHEN THEY INTENDED TO BRING IT BACK AND KIND OF WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED BY NOW AND WHETHER, WHETHER WE COULD TAKE THIS UP ON THURSDAY WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT PRESENT, WHAT'S THE BENEFIT THIS LONG TIME TO SENDING FROM YOUR OFFICE. 
          AND HE STATED WE WANT IT TO BE A FELLOW DOC, AND WE REALLY THOUGHT THAT WE NEEDED THE FARM IN ORDER TO GATHER ALL THE, THOSE, I WONDER IF WE COULD, UM, I'M HAPPY TO WORK REAL CLOSELY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION AND KIND OF SOME GENERAL, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE HOW DEEPLY WE NEED TO DIVE INTO THE ISSUE IF THERE'S SUPPORT TO GENDER ON THE COUNCIL TO GENERALLY MAKE SOME DIFFERENT CHOICES WITH, WITH AT LEAST SOME OF SOME PORTION OF THIS FUNDING. 
          AND SO I GUESS I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF, IF IT IS GETTING POSTPONED THIS WEEK AND I APPRECIATE, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR INTENT AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT WE LOOK TOWARD THE FIRST POTENTIALLY AS A POSTPONEMENT DATE AGAIN, THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE REALLY PRESSING NEEDS FOR WHICH WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR FUNDING. 
          IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE A VIABLE SOURCE. 
          IS THAT, WOULD THAT WORK FOR YOU, DO YOU THINK? YEAH, I THINK THAT WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST A REMINDER THAT, UM, MOVING MONEY OUT OF AUTHORIZATIONS DOESN'T NECESSARILY FREE UP ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UM, NO BUDGET THAT IS ACTUALLY TAKEN UP BY AUTHORIZING THE CONTRACT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M THINKING THOUGH THAT, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, UM, THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 20 BUDGET FOR THIS. 
          AND MY GUESS IS THAT MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT INTEND TO MAKE USE OF THE CONTRACT HAVE SOME BUDGET AND FUNDING WITHIN THEIR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BUDGETS FOR 21. 
          YEAH. 
          AT THIS POINT IN TIME, ANYTHING THAT'S PLANNED FOR THIS CONTRACT IN A DEPARTMENT FOR FYE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BECAUSE THE CONTRACT WOULD NOT BE EXTUBATED FINE. 
          AND SO THAT AGAIN, UM, THE DEPARTMENT'S AVAILABLE. 
          SO SEAN WITH, UM, BUT AM I, IS MY ASSUMPTION CORRECT? THAT IF THEY INTENDED TO UTILIZE THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 21, SO THAT WOULD MEAN, I THINK WHATEVER THAT FUNDING WAS, I'M SORRY, I I'M GETTING MYSELF DISTRACTED WITH TWO QUESTIONS. 
          LET ME ASK THE FIRST ONE. 
          UM, IF DEPARTMENTS INTENDED TO USE THAT FUNDING IN FISCAL YEAR 21, THEIR DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 21 WOULD REFLECT THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE'D BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY MIGHT MAKE USE OF, OF THAT CONTRACT AND WHAT THEY'VE SET ASIDE WITHIN THEIR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT FUNDS OR THAT EXPENDITURE. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT AGAIN, THOSE ESTIMATES, THOSE AMOUNTS WERE BASED ON AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT AND I'M NOT SO FAR BEFORE THEN IT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE NEED TO SEND THAT THE DEPARTMENT FUND. 
          SURE. 
          I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE. 
          I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, I THINK, I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU SAYING IT'S NOT A FULL AMOUNT OF THE CONTRACT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE FOR REALLOCATION, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S DEPARTMENTS THAT REALLY INTENDED TO USE IT. 
          WE'LL HAVE CARVED OUT SOME PORTION OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL BUDGETS FOR THE USE OF THAT CONTRACT. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THE FUND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE DETERMINED THAT THAT MAY NOT BE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THAT FUNDING, THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THEN I GUESS THE SECOND PART THAT I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT, IF, UM, AND JUST CLARIFY WHETHER THAT'S ACCURATE, WHETHER I'M ACCURATE, MY UNDERSTANDING, THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS THAT I REMEMBERED FROM THE FIRST FROM IT, WHEN IT WAS ON OUR COUNCIL, INITIALLY THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FROM FISCAL YEAR 20 THAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR THIS. 
          AND NOW I'M NOT REMEMBERING IF THERE WAS 20 OR 30 OR 60,000, BUT THERE WAS SOME, THERE WAS SOME AMOUNT UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND THAT IT WAS SAID WAS AVAILABLE FOR THIS CONTRACT. 
          CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT THAT AMOUNT WAS? MMM, WELL THAT'S OKAY. 
          I GUESS I COULD FIND OUT FOR THIS SPECIFIC NEEDS ARE AVAILABLE TO REALLOCATE FOR DEPARTMENT WILL BE, BE ABLE TO GET OVER IT. 
          SO DOES THAT, SO THAT MEANS THEN TO ME, THAT THE FISCAL, BUT THAT, THAT THOSE FUNDS FROM FISCAL YEAR 20 COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR REALLOCATION. 
          THEY CAN'T BE SPENT TOWARD THIS PURPOSE. 
          THAT WOULD BE PROACTIVE. 
          THEN YOU'D 
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HAVE TO START WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AS FAR AS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE FOR MOBILE. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANKS. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THE REST OF THE QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S MY PLAN AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I THINK MANAGER TO THAT END, I THINK THE BUDGET OFFICE MAY NEED TO WEIGH IN HERE AND PROVIDE US A CLEARER ANSWER IN, IN WHERE THESE BUDGETED ITEMS EXIST AND IN WHAT DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER PICTURE OF WHAT ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ENTERPRISE, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GENERAL FUND, EVEN THE 60 GRAND 65 GRAND THAT'S NOTED IN THE BACKUP FROM THE 20 BUDGET. 
          DOESN'T SAY IF THAT'S FROM EA OR RECRUIT RESOURCE RECOVERY OR WHEREVER I, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL CONTEXT, APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING POSTPONEMENT. 
          NOW THOSE ARE JUST TO CLARIFY, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I THINK, UM, MS. BELLA WAS ABLE TO GIVE US SOME OF THE ANSWERS TO THAT LAST TIME, BUT I HAD ASKED A SERIES OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT RUN JUST ALONG THOSE LINES, KIND OF WHERE IS WHICH BUDGET, WHICH DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS AND HOW MUCH AND WHAT NOT. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT SHE AND OTHERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STAGE AND SAY I'M 62. 
          THIS LAST CONVERSATION, UH, I THINK WAS A GREAT SEGUE, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVAR BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THIS FUNDING. 
          UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I WAS APPARENT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE BUYING SWAG OR MIGHT BE CONSIDERING BUYING SWAG. 
          THE THOUGHT WAS MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF FUNDING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND IF THAT EXISTS, THEN MAYBE THERE ARE OTHERS TO, UH, TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THEIR DEPARTMENT'S DOING THE SAME THING. 
          HERE'S RISE TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, RADIOS, UH, THAT WE WERE FINANCING AS PART OF THE END OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, ARE THERE, HE COULD FIND LIKE ADDED OUR BUDGET OR PERHAPS WE COULD FINANCE, UH, TO COME UP WITH, UM, UH, IMMEDIATE CAPITAL, UH, AND THAT, UM, THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY GAVE RISE TO THIS, UM, UH, SAVES, UH, RESOLUTIONS SAVING AUSTIN'S VITAL ECONOMIC SECTORS. 
          UH, AND IT WAS YET ANOTHER ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS COMING FROM COUNCIL, TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE, WITH A ECONOMIC CRISIS AND HUMAN CRISIS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PANDEMIC. 
          THIS ITEM 62, I THINK, COULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY ANY ONE OF US ON THE DIAL SPONSORED BY ALL OF US ON THE DIET. 
          IN FACT, IT'S NOT TOO DISSIMILAR TO ACTION THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY TAKEN OR TAKEN SEVERAL TIMES WITH RESPECT TO TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION AND, AND TO BRING RELIEF. 
          UM, THIS ONE HAS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SLANT. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, FUNDING, UH, NOT ENOUGH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH A REGULARLY. 
          AND WE'VE JUST LEARNED TODAY FROM, UH, UM, FROM, UH, UH, BRI FRANCO THAT, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED ANOTHER CBDG CBDG GRANT. 
          UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $7 MILLION THAT SEEMS TO BE NEEDED TO BE DEDICATED PERHAPS TO WORK RENTAL RELIEF. 
          UH, SO THERE'S MONEY, AGAIN, COMING IN THAT WAY, DIRECTED TOWARD INDIVIDUALS. 
          WE PUT MONEY TOWARD TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOOD TO BE ABLE TO, TO EAT, UH, AND, AND WE'VE DIRECTED, UH, DIRECT PAYMENTS TO TWO PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. 
          UNFORTUNATE THING OF COURSE, IS THAT THE NEED IS MUCH GREATER THAN OUR RESOURCES AND OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          WE'VE ALSO STARTED ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS AND ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UH, TO HELP OTHER INDUSTRIES AND SECTORS IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND THEY'VE BEEN A VARYING AMOUNTS AND HAVE A VERY, UH, HELP FOR PEOPLE, AGAIN, NOT ENOUGH TO, TO, TO REALLY, UH, BE ABLE TO MEET THE NEED, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED THE FEDERAL FUNDING, BUT EVEN WHILE WE NEED THE FEDERAL FUNDING, UH, WE CAN'T WAIT, UH, FOR THE, THE CRISIS THAT EXISTS HERE THAT THIS RESOLUTION 62 WAS AIMED AT FOCUSING ON KIND OF OUR SEED CORN. 
          UH, WHAT IS IT THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN NOW IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT IT'S STILL HERE AS WE COME OUT OF THE VIRUS? UM, WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED THAT IF WE LOSE, WE'LL BE, UM, A VERY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO REPLACE, UH, WHERE IS THE, THE, THE FAILURE TO SURVIVE. 
          UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE SEE THAT HAPPENING TOO MANY TIMES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VIRUS, BOTH IN TERMS OF PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES, UH, WHERE IS IT THAT WE SHOULD INVEST IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN AND HELP THE SURVIVAL OF OUR, OF 
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OUR CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THIS RESOLUTION FOCUSED ON THE ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, UH, ANALYSIS OF THOSE INDUSTRIES THAT WOULD BE HARDEST HIT, UH, WHICH SPOKE TO, UH, UH, MUSIC VENUES. 
          UH, IT SPOKE TO ARTS VENUES. 
          IT SPOKE TO RESTAURANTS, BARS. 
          WE ALSO KNOW FROM TALKING TO STAKEHOLDERS AND OUR STAFF, UH, THAT THERE'S A REAL CRISIS IN A CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE KIND OF WAY, WITH RESPECT TO CHILD CARE. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A REAL CRISIS FOR US IF WE LOSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE PEOPLE IN THAT INDUSTRY ALREADY, UM, IN, IN, IN DIRE STRAITS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT AS WE'RE COMING OUT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE TRAINED TO UPSCALE, UH, FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY. 
          SO THIS WAS A RESOLUTION THAT WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ALL OUR MONEY, WHERE CAN WE FIND MORE MONEY AND CAN WE TAKE MONEY? AND THEN WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COBBLE TOGETHER ENOUGH MONEY TO ACTUALLY HELP SOME ELEMENTS OF OUR CITY THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO FAIL OR NOT SURVIVE, BUT NEED TO, UM, BECAUSE OUR CITY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS, UH, WILL HAVE SUFFERED IN WAYS WE CAN PREPARE FOR CERTAIN FAILURES. 
          UM, FOR ME, THE THINGS THAT REALLY STAND OUT ARE CHILDCARE, UH, AND THE MUSIC VENUES THAT HAVE LOST, UM, UM, WOULD FIND IT DIFFICULT TO COME BACK BECAUSE SO MANY OF THEM ARE IN PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW, WHERE THEY DON'T REPRESENT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, UH, OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, ALREADY TIGHT AND, AND NEED US TO BE ABLE TO STEP IN. 
          SO THIS RESOLUTION FOCUSES ON, ON, ON THAT WORLD. 
          UH, IT RECOGNIZES THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF WORK AS COUNSEL ON THIS AND THIS MANY, BUT PROBABLY NOT EVEN ALL OF THE RESOLUTIONS WE'VE DONE THAT, THAT DIRECTS THIS, IT NARROWS IT DOWN TO BE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE FUNDING FOR, FOR, UM, UH, THINGS IS OTHER THAN, UM, UH, INSTITUTIONS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAVE A MULTIPLIER EFFECT. 
          UH, IT RECOGNIZES THAT, UH, THE ECONOMIC ECONOMISTS PREDICTED AUSTIN IS GOING TO HAVE A K SHAPE RECOVERY COMING OUT OF THE VIRUS VERSUS CERTAIN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO REALLY WELL, UH, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, BUT A LARGE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE THE DOWNWARD TURNING LANE. 
          AND WE RUN THE RISK OF ENDING UP IF WE DON'T PRESERVE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, UH, OF BECOMING AN EVEN MORE, UM, UH, UNFAIR, UH, UH, COMMUNITY WITH GREATER, UH, DISPARITIES. 
          SO THIS ASKS THE STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT DIFFERENT FUNDING, UH, PLACES WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND DOLLARS. 
          IT POINTS OUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S $12 MILLION THAT IS AVAILABLE. 
          DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WHEN WE STARTED THIS OR $12 MILLION IN OVERAGE IN, IN SALES TAX, UH, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A FUNDING SYSTEM, BUT IT ASKS STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
           EARLIER DISCUSSION. 
          THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL, UM, UH, AND, BUT IT SAYS, AND IT ASKS STAFF TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN SUPPORT BUSINESSES WITHIN SECTORS, UM, THAT, UH, ARE, ARE SUSCEPTIBLE AND CRITICAL. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT ARE VERY VULNERABLE, UH, FACED WITH, UM, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO SURVIVE IS A WAY FOR US TO INVEST IN WAYS THAT ACTUALLY ENABLE SOME INDUSTRY OR SECTOR OR COMPONENT THAT FORMS A PART OF OUR CRITICAL CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          NOW, WITHOUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, UH, THIS IS REALLY THE SURVIVAL RESOLUTION. 
          THIS IS THE SAVES A RESOLUTION TO SPECIFICALLY ASK STAFF WITH THE AMENDMENT, BUT, UH, HOW OFFERED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, AUSTIN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. 
          WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT IDEA COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNCIL, WORKING ON IT, MANY OF US, IF NOT ALL OF US, FOR YEARS ON THAT, THAT'S FOCUSED ON THINGS LIKE, UH, UH, SOME OF THE LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY WITH THE WORK THAT WAS JUST DONE. 
          I THINK THE STAFF'S BRINGING THAT BACK TO US, UH, AT THE VERY END OF SEPTEMBER, THE FIRST DAY OR TWO OF OCTOBER I'VE, BUT THINKING IS MAYBE THAT SAME STRUCTURE COULD COME IN NIMBLY TO BE ABLE TO HELP WITH, WITH CHILDCARE OR TO HELP WITH, UH, ICONIC MUSIC VENUES IN THE CITY OR, OR OTHERWISE, UH, AND MAYBE 
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BE ABLE TO TAKE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVEN'T LEVERAGED THEM BY MULTIPLYING THEM AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE WORK OF THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. 
          UM, BUT I HAVE THAT, UH, AMENDMENT THAT I POSTED THIS WEEKEND. 
          I KNOW THAT OTHERS OF US HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, AMENDMENTS TO ME. 
          UM, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE NEED IN THE CITY. 
          UM, EVERY TIME WE MAKE A SPENDING DECISION, IT INVOLVES TOUGH CHOICES. 
          I, AND I THINK, UH, AT THIS POINT, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR US IS TO, IS TO PRESERVE THE SEED CORN AND ENABLES AUSTIN TO COME OUT THE BACKSIDE OF THIS WITH THOSE INDUSTRIES IN PLACE THAT WE LOST WE'RE IN TROUBLE, EVEN GREATER TROUBLE CANCER, OUR POOL. 
          THANKS FOR THAT. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE, WE GOT THE UPDATED STATS FROM THE WORKFORCE OR PARTNERS WITH FORCE FIRST, THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS, AND THEY SHOW THAT THE SECTOR THAT IS GOING TO BE NOW AND WILL BE CONTINUED TO BE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED NEGATIVELY ARE IN THE SERVICE AND THAT CERTAIN POSITIONS, OUR RESTAURANTS, OUR SERVERS, UM, PEOPLE WHO PREPARE THE FOOD FROM OTHER PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE GOING TO COME BACK THE CASE SHAPE, UM, FORM THAT THE MAYOR WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY TARGETED BY, UM, ITEM 62 FOR SURE ARE THE ONES YOU CAN START TO SAY, WELL, I'M GLAD WE'RE DIGGING IN ON THAT FURTHER. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A PO THAT'S REMEMBER AT 30TH. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ALL THE YEARS OF LIVING HERE AND GROWING THROUGH A COUPLE OF THESE RECESSIONS AND, AND, AND SEEING HOW LONG IT TOOK FIRST, SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE LOW END, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE SERVICE AREA. 
          AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO MAKE UP. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO BE A CO-SPONSOR ON, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I'M PROUD TO BE A CO-SPONSOR ON THIS ITEM TOO. 
          DONE A LOT OF WORK AS YOU LAID OUT. 
          AND A LOT OF WORK WE'VE ALL BEEN DOING FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, I POSTED AN AMENDMENT TO THE MESSAGE BOARD, UH, THAT ADDS SOME LANGUAGE RELATED TO EQUITY AND TO THE WORKERS THAT RELY UPON THE INDUSTRY. 
          BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE MUSICIANS, IT'S ALSO, UH, THE CREW WORKERS THAT MAKE THOSE VENUES FUNCTION AND THAT RELY UPON THEM FOR THEIR INCOME. 
          SO THAT'S POSTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER THAT COUNSELOR, HER KITCHEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AS I NOTE ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, I'M, I'M PLEASED TO, TO COSPONSOR THIS, I THINK THESE ARE SECTORS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, UM, SEE, I DID WANT TO ASK MR. VINNY KNOW IF HE COULD SPEAK TO THE SALES TAX. 
          UM, I HAD RAISED THAT AS AN ISSUE DURING BUDGET, UM, AND THE TIME WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER THAT WAS MONEY THAT WE COULD THINK ABOUT, UM, ALLOCATING AS WE WERE TRYING TO FIND MONEY, MONEY, AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHILE WE'RE AHEAD ON OUR SALES TAX FOR RIGHT NOW, UM, OUR PROJECTIONS OR FOR HIGHER SALES TAX THAN WE MIGHT NOW BE EXPECTING GIVEN THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO I'M WONDERING MR. VINO CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR, UM, POT OF MONEY AS BEING A LIKELY ONE, UM, OR WHAT THE DOWNSIDES OF THAT. 
          I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES YOU MENTIONED, LIKE TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD DO THE, UM, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS LIKE WE DID FOR THE RADIOS OR THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, UM, MIGHT ACTUALLY YIELD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY WITHOUT, UM, RISKING THE TRAJECTORY OVER TIME, BUT I, SOMETHING MAY HAVE CHANGED. 
          AND MR. DENINO, MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE IF WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          DID YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION? CERTAINLY IN REGARDS TO SALES TAXES, UM, WE ARE AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, UH, CURRENTLY I DID HEAR, AM I NOT COMING THROUGH, YOU ARE COMING TO GO AHEAD. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ED NOW? SO YOU MIGHT BE FROZEN ON THE SCREEN. 
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WHY DON'T YOU CANCEL YOUR VIDEO AND SEE IF YOU CAN JUST TALK, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TALK, THIS IS THE CITY HALL. 
          IT LOOKED LIKE HIS INTERNET WAS GOING OUT, SO HE MAY BE TRYING TO RECONNECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING, CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS TO COLLEAGUES OR TO MAYBE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF. 
          UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, ANY COMPARATIVE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS VENUES. 
          UM, I KNOW WE HAD THE REPORT ON CHILDCARE, WHICH HAD SOME SPECIFIC THOUGHTS, BUT, UM, FOR VENUES IN PARTICULAR, I WASN'T SURE IF WE HAD ANY COMPARATIVE INSIGHTS THAT MIGHT HELP US ON THE STRUCTURING BEYOND THE CULTURAL TRUST INFORMATION FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT'S FULLY UNIQUE TO AUSTIN. 
          AND I KNOW THAT EDD HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF COMPARATIVE WORK, AND I WAS WONDERING IF THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN, IF THERE WERE ANY GOOD IDEAS WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING AS WE MOVE FORWARD, DIRECTOR PERCENTAGE GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I APOLOGIZE, MY PANTS DON'T HAVE SOME WORK IN MY YARD. 
          UM, RON, A COUPLE OF SENIOR CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER CITIES SPECIFICALLY AT NASHVILLE AS WELL. 
          IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE COST. 
          I KNOW THAT OUR CONSULTANTS IS LOOKING AND GIVING US RECOMMENDATIONS ON STUDENTS THAT I HAVE CONSIDERED A FROM, I DON'T KNOW, SPECIFICALLY IF WE CAN BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO ADD ANY LANGUAGE TO IT FOR THAT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT INCLUDED WHEN IT COMES BACK, JUST IN TERMS OF THE CAMPAIGN? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN WHENEVER MR. VINNIE KNOWS BACK, I THOUGHT THE ANSWER TO MY PRAYER. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK HE MIGHT BE BACK. 
          SO LET'S CROSS THAT AND I AM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME BETTER NOW WE CAN GO AHEAD. 
          UM, COULD I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER, UM, RESTATE THE QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I HAVE IT CORRECT. 
          IT WAS ABOUT SALES TAXES AND WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE AND ANY THOUGHTS YOU HAVE AS OUR CHIEF BUDGET OFFICER ABOUT, UM, DEPLOYING THAT, UM, MOVING FORWARD, GIVEN SORT OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS, UM, FOR FISCAL YEAR 21. 
          SURE. 
          AND WHILE THE SALES TAX COLLECTIONS TO DATE HAVE BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD NEWS RELATIVE TO WHAT WE HAD INITIALLY PROJECTED WHAT JOHN HOCKEY NEILS FROM TSP HAD PROJECTED, WE HAD PREDICTED A, A MORE SEVERE CONTRACTION OF SALES TAXES. 
          WE HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT CONTRACTION WITH SALES TAXES, JUST LESS SEVERE THAN WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED. 
          SO WE ARE, WE ARE CURRENTLY $12 MILLION AHEAD OF THE PACE THAT WE HAD PROJECTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE CONCERN WITH THAT, AND THE THING I WOULD ADVISE CAUTION ON IS WHAT THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE FUTURE. 
          UM, SO THE, UH, THE DEPTHS OF THE SALES TAX CREDIT CONTRACTION HAS NOT BEEN AS DEEP AS WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED, BUT IT IS BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE THE DURATION OF THE CONTRACTION LONGER. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE DEAL WITH A TWO MONTH LAG ON SALES TAX COLLECTIONS. 
          OUR LAST COLLECTION PERIOD WAS FOR, UM, UM, WELL, WE GOT OUR SEPTEMBER PAYMENT, WHICH WAS FOR JULY SALES AND IT WAS DOWN 9.4%. 
          UM, WE WERE PROJECTING BY NOVEMBER. 
          WE WOULD BE BACK TO A SITUATION WHERE OUR SALES TAX MONTH OVER MONTH SALES TAX COLLECTIONS WERE ONLY DOWN 5%. 
          AND BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE BACK TO TWO FLAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, WHAT THE TRAJECTORY OF THE VIRUS AND, UM, AND THE DURATION THAT IT MAY LAST. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S 
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THE RISK OUT THERE IS, IS THIS GOING TO LAST LONGER THAN WHAT WE HAD INITIALLY ANTICIPATED, NOT AS DEEP BUT LASTING LONGER, AND THAT WE MAY END UP GIVING BACK SOME OF THAT 12 AND A HALF MILLION THAT WE CURRENTLY OR AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          AND DO YOU HAVE A SENSE NOW THAT WE'RE CLOSER TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? WHAT, UM, ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY BEYOND THE 12 MILLION IN SALES TAX, WE MIGHT BE DEPOSITING INTO OUR RESERVES AS ABOVE AND BEYOND THE 12%, UM, NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          AND THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE REALLY A GOOD MONTH TO SIX WEEKS AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS BEFORE WE GET STARTED GETTING A BETTER PICTURE OF THAT. 
          I MEAN, OF COURSE, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, OUR LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE, MORE THAN HALF OF OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE. 
          AND THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO FLUCTUATE AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PROPERTY TAX COLLECTIONS ARE ALREADY IN. 
          SO THOSE PROJECTIONS WILL COME IN, UM, VERY, VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AS WELL. 
          THE UTILITY TRANSFERS, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL JUST BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PLUS OR MINUS ON SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTAL REVENUE PROJECTIONS RELATED TO THE FEES THEY CHARGE. 
          UM, BUT WE WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT TO BE SIGNIFICANT WHETHER IT'S POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. 
          SO I THINK THE MAJOR BARRIER TO YOU COULD EXPECT WOULD BE IN REGARDS TO SALES TAXES. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S A TWO MONTH LAG ON GETTING DATA FOR THOSE. 
          AND SO WE WON'T GET OUR FINAL SALE TAX COLLECTION NUMBER UNTIL AROUND MID NOVEMBER. 
          SO BY MEN NEVER WILL REALLY KNOW WHERE WE LANDED IN FISCAL YEAR 20 WITH OUR SALES TAX COLLECTIONS RELATIVE TO WHAT WE GET BUDGETED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT I'M HAPPY FOR US TO EXPLORE ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH ANY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UM, THOSE KINDS OF BUDGET ISSUES SO THAT WE DON'T CREATE A HOLE, UM, LATER ON THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, ABLE TO, TO UNDO AT A, AT A LATER DATE. 
          AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THINK THAT SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS MAY BE, UM, MORE, MORE, UM, PRODUCTIVE FOR THE LONG RUN. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE WHEN THEY SAY I AM? UM, I THINK, UM, JUST WANT TO, UM, TRY, UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE'RE AT THIS POINT TO, UM, TO TAKE STEPS ON THIS RESOLUTION. 
          I THINK, I MEAN, WE, THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE HAS DONE, UH, A LOT OF WORK IN THE PAST. 
          WE KNOW OUR, OUR, UH, BUSINESSES, UM, AND THESE SECTORS ARE CONTINUING TO SUFFER AND WE'RE REALLY AT A CRISIS POINT. 
          SO I AM, I AM, UH, WANTING US TO EXPLORE EVERY, I'M WANTING US TO BE CREATIVE. 
          I'M WANTING US TO THINK BROADLY, AND I'M WANTING US TO ASK THE STAFF TO EXPLORE EVERY OPTION THAT THEY CAN WE'LL HAVE TO, WHEN INFORMATION COMES BACK TO US, WE'LL HAVE TO BE WEIGHING WHAT MIGHT APPEAR TO BE BEST. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE EVERY OPTION. 
          UM, SO I DID HAVE AN AMENDMENT, BUT I'VE POSTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, WHICH IS ANOTHER OPTION TO EXPLORE. 
          UM, AND SO I, UM, I'M A COSPONSOR ON THIS, UM, ON THIS, UM, I'M HOPING THAT THAT AMENDMENT WILL BE ACCEPTED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, TO EXPLORE ANOTHER OPTION. 
          UM, I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE, UM, OPTIONS RELATED TO, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION AND ARE CONTINUING TO WORK TO, UM, RESET FORWARD. 
          UM, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO FOR GETTING THAT STARTED YEARS AGO. 
          UM, AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE POINT WITH EVERYBODY'S WORK, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST YEARS OR SO, UM, TO GET US TO THIS POINT, I REALLY THINK THAT THAT ENTITY IS GOING TO BE, UH, PROVIDED SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME WIMBLEDON. 
          AND SO, SO THANK YOU MAYOR FOR ADDING MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, UH, INTO THIS RESOLUTION AND AN ADDITIONAL 10 LAND WE SHOULD FORWARD. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPFUL. 
          I'M ALSO, I ALSO AM INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT, UM, SALES TEXTS THAT OVER, OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE PROJECTED. 
          UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN ULTRAS CONCERNS, AND SO WE CAN SPEAK TO THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK. 
          UH, BUT I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND AGAIN, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE THINK BROADLY AND CREATIVELY LOOK AT ALL OF OUR POSSIBILITIES. 
          SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT BULLET ITEM, YES, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN FOR ACKNOWLEDGING MY WORK ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT AND TO 
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USE THE IDEAS THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD AS THE CULTURAL TRUST, AND REALLY SEE HOW THOSE STRATEGIES HELP US MEET THIS, MEET THIS CHALLENGE. 
          UM, I HAVE, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AT EMMA CO-SPONSOR AND APPRECIATE IT. 
          I HAVE ASKED THROUGH THE Q AND A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, UM, SEVERAL OF US HAVE AT VARIOUS TIMES OR DIFFERENT RESOLUTIONS THAT SPEAK TO ASSISTANCE FOR VENUES THROUGHOUT THIS PANDEMIC. 
          AND IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE RESULTS OF SOME OF THAT EXPLORATION HAS BEEN. 
          SO I DID SUBMIT SOME QUESTIONS THROUGH THE Q AND A, BUT WANTED TO OFFER STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT, ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THEIR STRATEGIES. 
          SO ONE OF THE RESOLUTION, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHERS ON THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT, ASKED THE STAFF TO LOOK AT EXPEDITING AT REDUCING FEES OR ASSOCIATED WITH PATIO CAFES, EXPEDITING PERMITTING PROCESSES, LOOKING AT FEE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          WE ALSO ASKED THE MANAGER TO LOOK AT EXPLORING TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, ACQUISITION STRATEGIES. 
          UM, OF COURSE YOU NEED MONEY FOR THOSE ACQUISITION STRATEGIES. 
          AND I DON'T OKAY. 
          MAYOR, I'M GETTING SO FEEDBACK. 
          CAN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHOEVER CALLED IN LINE AND GOT BY CAME I'VE EXTENDED CHARACTER? IS IT ON MY END? I MAY HAVE TO ASK, UM, I MAY HAVE TO ASK MY COWORKER IN THE OFFICE. 
          SHE CAN HAVE HER CLASS DISCUSSION A LITTLE QUIETER TOO. 
          HOPEFULLY THIS'LL BE A LITTLE BETTER. 
          UM, WE HAD ASKED FOR THE MANAGER TO LOOK AT THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, UM, AND SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF OUR STAFF HAD ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE READY TO REPORT BACK ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS. 
          I DID INVITE THEM TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION NOW, OR THEY CAN PROVIDE AN ANSWER THROUGH THE Q AND A MORE QUESTIONS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON AN UPDATE THAT WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE PROVIDE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR COLLABORATING WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION LET'S STAFF HAS BEEN HARD AT WORK RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK BECAUSE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, WE REALLY NEED TO TURN OVER EVERY STONE IN THIS PROCESS, I THINK. 
          AND SO IF ANY OF THOSE WERE VIABLE MEANS OF IDENTIFYING FUNDS, I'M GOING TO, OR LOWERING COSTS. 
          UM, I WANT TO GET THOSE IN PLACE TOO. 
          I THINK WE NEED, I THINK WE NEED MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE STRATEGIES HERE. 
          UM, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN, I'M INTERESTED IN REALLY CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND I'M INTERESTED IN CONTEMPLATING THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE NOT THOUGHT WERE VIABLE SOLUTIONS IN THE PAST, BUT IN A TIME OF HARD CHOICES, WE'RE READY TO MAKE THEM NOW. 
          UM, I DID, I DO INTEND TO INTRODUCE THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION. 
          I MADE AMENDMENT RATHER AND HOPE IT WILL ALSO BE REGARDED AS FRIENDLY. 
          IT SHOULD BE ON A MESSAGE BOARD RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK IT'S BEING CIRCULATED OR AS LAID BACK UP, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE, JUST A BIT, UM, IT ADDS IN AS AWARE AS, UH, UH, SEVERAL OF, I THINK THE MOST, SEVERAL ADDITIONAL RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION SOLUTIONS THAT WE PASSED EARLIER IN THE SPRING RELATED TO USE, ESPECIALLY THE VENUE VENUES IN RED RIVER. 
          THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE BROADER THAN THAT. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL IRRELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND THEN IT WOULD ASK FOR THE MANAGER TO RETURN TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT PLACES INTO A DESIGNATED FUND PAYMENTS FROM THE FOLLOWING SOURCES, I HAVE TEMPORARY USE OF RIGHT OF WAY FEES, ALLIE VACATION, SALE PAYMENTS, AND STREET, VACATION SALES. 
          WE KNOW THAT THESE ARE OUR ACTUAL FUNDING SOURCES THAT COULD BE UTILIZED. 
          THE FUNDING FROM THEM CURRENTLY GOES INTO FLOWS INTO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AN EARLIER VERSION OF THIS, THAT TALKS ABOUT LICENSE AGREEMENTS. 
          THOSE DO GO TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          SO I'VE STAYED AWAY FROM THOSE FUNDING SOURCES, BUT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, MY PROPOSAL WOULD TAKE TEMPORARY USE OF RIGHT AWAY FEES, ALLIE VACATION SALES STREET, VACATION SALES, AND DESIGNATE THEM, OR USE HELPING PROVIDE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE TO BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT BE DISPLACED BY THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, AS WELL AS PROVIDING FINANCIAL RELIEF TO THE MOST VULNERABLE AND AT RISK LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND ARTS VENUES, RESTAURANTS, AND BARS, THE TYPE TO DEFINE COVID. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD. 
          I WOULD WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT IT HERE, BUT I, I DO THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ABSOLUTELY INTERESTED IN LOOKING THROUGH AND ANALYZING THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED HERE. 
          SOME OF THEM WE HAVE CONSIDERED IN THE PAST, UM, SOME OF THEM, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON AS COUNCIL AND IT DIDN'T, AND IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD OR THEY DIDN'T GET THE SUPPORT. 
          UM, I DO SEE THE FUNDING SOURCES I IDENTIFIED AS AN IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE SOURCE THAT WOULD, 
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YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY NOT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, BY OUR ESTIMATE, UPWARDS OF $30 MILLION IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS OR THE TIME PERIOD, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT DESIGNATED TIME OR NOT IN NOT FOREVER, JUST FOR TWO YEARS WHILE WE'RE REALLY HELPING THOSE ICONIC, ICONIC BUSINESSES. 
          UM, THE CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          I LOVE THAT PHRASE, MAYOR, THE CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE REALLY RECOVER FROM THIS CHALLENGING TIME. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT'S AN AMENDMENT I ANTICIPATE, UM, INTRODUCING US FRIENDLY AND WOULD WELCOME MY COLLEAGUES FEEDBACK ON, ON WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THEY WANT MORE INFO ABOUT OR ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE. 
          I RECOGNIZE YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          I ACTUALLY WAS THINKING SOMEWHERE ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT KATHY JUST SUGGESTED, UM, AS EVERYBODY WAS TALKING, I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, AIRBNB AND SEEING IF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, I THINK WE, SOME OF OUR STR FEES WE RAMPED UP BECAUSE OF, OF MORE, UM, I BELIEVE WE HIRED MORE CODE OFFICERS BECAUSE OF A LOT OF CONCERNS WE HAD DURING THAT WHOLE REVISITING OF THAT ISSUE. 
          AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          MAYBE THAT'S NOT EVEN AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ON TWO ENDS? IS THERE SOME FEE THAT THE CITY HAS RIGHT NOW? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PARKING FEE OR AIRBNB REGISTRATION FEE THAT COULD BE TEMPORARILY DIVERTED TO A FUND THAT DOES WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS TRYING TO DO. 
          UM, AND THEN ASIDE FROM THAT, I, IF, IF OUR, MAYBE IT'S OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, REACHING OUT TO, TO AIRBNB, AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO ADD A, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PAY OUR ELECTRIC BILL IS DO YOU WANT TO ADD AN EXTRA DOLLAR FOR SOMETHING OR OTHER, DO YOU WANT US TO ADD AN EXTRA DOLLAR FOR, YOU KNOW, TO DONATE TO THIS CAUSE? AND MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THOSE, UM, INDUSTRIES THAT ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE STILL VISITING AUSTIN. 
          AND SO MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU BOOK YOUR AIRBNB TO GIVE AN EXTRA FIVE BUCKS TO THIS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THIS, THIS, UM, NEW BUCKET WILL BE, WILL BE CALLED. 
          I APPRECIATE HOW THIS BUILDS ON THE, ALL THE WORK THAT ALL OF US HAVE DONE, INCLUDING RISE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, UM, AND ANY OTHER KIND OF SUBSCRIPTION FEE. 
          I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, AMAZON ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE, UM, TO GIVE UP A PORTION OF YOUR PURCHASE TO DIFFERENT NONPROFITS, AND MAYBE THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REACH OUT, TO, TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I JUST LOST EVERYBODY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON MY END. 
          I CAN STILL HEAR YOU THOUGH. 
          KEEP GOING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I ENCOURAGE, AND MAYBE THIS IS ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT KATHY IS PROPOSING. 
          UM, I DON'T NEED TO, I DON'T NEED TO WRITE ANY, ANY LANGUAGE, BUT IF WE CAN JUST BE REALLY CREATIVE WITH THE DIRECTION, UM, ASKING OUR, OUR, OUR STAFF TO REACH OUT AND PROVIDE CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, ADDING AN EXTRA DOLLAR TO YOUR, I DON'T KNOW, GROCERY DELIVERY FEE OR SOMETHING, AND, AND LETTING AUSTINITES KNOW THAT THAT EXTRA DOLLAR IS GOING TO THIS BUCKET. 
          I THINK THERE ARE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE I, AS YOU MENTIONED THERE, THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY. 
          IN FACT, THE STATE KEEPS TAKING AWAY OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICES. 
          AND SO I, I ALWAYS AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THINKING THAT IT'S ALWAYS THE CITY'S GONNA SOLVE ALL OF THOSE CAUSE WE REALLY NEED STATE HELP AND WE REALLY NEED FEDERAL HELP. 
          AND WE EVEN MORE NEED PHILANTHROPIC HELP IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO FIND SOME CREATIVE WAY TO DO THAT. 
          ANY OF HER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER HALTER, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOUR MUSIC, KEVIN, REAL TROUBLE WITH THESE NEW BUTTONS. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S ONE MORE TIME. 
          I JUST WANT TO CHECK, ARE YOU LIKE IN THIS, CREATING THAT AND DESIGNATING IT OR YOU ASKING STAFF TO EXPLORE IT? UM, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT I HAD A QUESTION IN Q AND A, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ANSWER, BUT IT WAS ON AT LEAST A PORTION OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, AND AS I RECALL, THEY WERE S THERE'S SOME SERIOUS SHORTFALLS IN OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF A LOSS OF PARKING FEES AND THAT THOSE RIGHT A WEEK WAY FEES WERE SUBSIDIZING, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO KEEP ALL OF IT STAFF, ET CETERA. 
          UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DETAILS AND I NEED TO GO LOOK AT IT. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE FEES WERE COUNTED IN SOME BUDGETS AND, AND I JUST WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY, WHAT THE 
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CONSEQUENCES ARE. 
          AGAIN, I I'M TOTALLY HAPPY TO BE CREATIVE, BUT I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE THINGS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE SPECIFIC ANSWERS. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE FORMULATING IT. 
          CAUSE I'M HAPPY TO HAVE US EXPLORE IT AND IT BE COMING BACK, BUT IF WE'RE DESIGNATING IT, THEN WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES BETTER BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT. 
          I THINK AT THIS POINT, IT'S, IT'S TEXTING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          AALTO THANKS FOR MENTIONING YOUR BUDGET QUESTIONS. 
          I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE ANSWERS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM, FROM STAFF. 
          UM, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THOUGH, NO, MY LANGUAGE IS DIRECTING THE MANAGER TO RETURN TO COUNCIL AT OUR NEXT MEETING WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ACCOMPLISH IT. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WE'VE NOW INITIATED SEVERAL EXPLORATIONS AND ANALYSIS AND WE'RE SIX MONTHS LATER WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL SUPPORT FOR, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR VENUES OUTSIDE OF SOME OF THOSE BIGGER PROGRAMS THAT TARGETED ALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD REALLY TRY TO AFFECT THAT CHANGE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, SO THAT THOSE AS THOSE REVENUES COME IN FROM THOSE USES, UH, THEY CAN BE CAPTURED AND DESIGNATED FOR THIS PURPOSE. 
          BUT I WILL LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDER THAT WE ALL CAN UNDERSTAND BEFORE THE FIRST, BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE OF DESIGNATING THE FUNDS FOR THIS USE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 
          JOHN'S KITCHEN. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO YOU WANT TO INCLUDE ANY ENCROACHMENTS TOTAL I AM LOOKING AT, I THINK I MAY HAVE, UM, DOES SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? SO ONE OF THOSE, I HAD FOUR FUNDING SOURCES, ONE OF WHICH I'VE REMOVED BECAUSE IT DOES GO TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND I THINK IT'S LICENSE AGREEMENTS. 
          UM, IT IS, BUT I THINK I, I MAY HAVE AN ERROR ON WHAT WE JUST SEND AROUND ENCROACHMENT FUNDS WERE INTENDED TO BE INCLUDED. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MAY NOT HAVE, I MAY NOT HAVE READ THAT ALOUD. 
          SO I'M IN FAVOR OF US INVESTIGATING EVERYTHING. 
          I THINK THIS IS OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ASK TO, TO, TO LOOK IN THEIR CUSHIONS FOR, FOR WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND DOLLARS AND, AND TO BE CREATIVE AND THINK ABOUT THINGS MAYBE DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, I WOULD NEED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSALS THAT I SEE ON AMENDMENTS. 
          UH, AND I, AND I WANT VERY MUCH TO GET THE INFORMATION WITH RESPECT TO THOSE. 
          UH, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT KIND OF OPERATES LIKE A LIKE, UH, ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT NOT QUITE A, IT'S NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH MEANS EVERYTHING I THINK GOES THROUGH THERE GOES THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SO I WOULD NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE OF NOT GETTING THAT. 
          UH, BUT I DON'T, I'M CERTAINLY NOT RULING IT OUT OR OBJECTING TO US TAKING A LOOK AT IT. 
          CAUSE I, NOW THAT YOU HAVE RAISED THAT, I THINK THAT'S A PERFECTLY VALID KIND OF QUESTION FOR US TO BE ASKING, TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS, WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE. 
          UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WELL, UM, I'M, AS I'M SURE EVERYBODY IS HAPPY TO EXPLORE IDEAS. 
          UM, I COULDN'T TELL IF ROB WAS HERE WITH HIS HAND RAISED AND THERE VERONICA WAS HERE WITH HER AND RAISED, BUT IF YOU WERE RAISING YOUR HANDS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO, TO, TO TALK AS WELL. 
          YES, MA'AM THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS ROBERT SPILLER, UH, DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS TO CORRECT. 
          YES, WE ARE AN ENTERPRISE FUND MAYOR. 
          AND SO, UH, THE ONLY GENERAL FUND TAX MONIES WE RECEIVE IS FOR REIMBURSEMENT, FOR FEES THAT COUNTS, CHOOSES TO WAIVE, UM, THE, THE TEMPORARY USE OF RIGHT AWAY FEES, UH, ARE THE ONE FEE THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT ACTUALLY IS USED, UH, TO SUPPORT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS BASE PART OF OUR BASIC REVENUE. 
          UH, WE WILL OF COURSE FOLLOW COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTION TO EXPLORE HOW THOSE FUNDS MIGHT BE USED IF THERE'S EXTRA FUNDS USED, UH, NOT BEING USED TO DIRECTLY MANAGE THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER MAJOR SOURCE OF REVENUE AS WAS SPOKEN ABOUT WAS PARKING AND A TOUGH TRANSPORTATION USER FEE, UH, PARKING REVENUES HAVE ALMOST BEEN DEPLETED WITH THE, UH, COVERT PANDEMIC. 
          UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO COME BACK, BUT WE ARE, ARE TRANSFERRING MONIES TO THE PARKING FUND TO KEEP IT SOLVENT THIS YEAR. 
          FIRST TIME IN 12 YEARS, IT HAS TYPICALLY TRANSFERRED MONEY 
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TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER SOURCE OF FUNDS ARE THE TOUGH. 
          AND SO OF COURSE, IF WE LOSE A MAJOR REVENUE, WE WANT TO CERTAINLY MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THE REVENUE NEEDS TO EITHER GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE TOUGH FEE OR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. 
          BUT, UM, WE DIRECTLY INVEST, UH, RIGHT TEMPORARY, RIGHT AWAY FEES AND MI FEES THAT WE COLLECT THAT WERE MENTIONED, UH, TO DO EVERYTHING FROM VISION ZERO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TO DISCOURAGE DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIOR, LIKE DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED, TO RUNNING THE SIGNALS AND KEEPING THE ELECTRICITY ON SITE, UH, WE'LL BE TEAM PLAYERS AND WORK WITH THE MANAGER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT POLL ITEM THAT'S OVER TOVO YEAH. 
          IF I COULD DIRECT US PILLAR. 
          SO THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          SO WE, WE WILL NEED TO GET STAFF TALKING WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          I'M SURE FOR THAT, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED, PARKING IS NOT INCLUDED IN MY AMENDMENT. 
          AND OF COURSE IT'S NOT EITHER THE ONLY ONE WHERE THERE IS OVERLAP IS THE TEMPORARY RIGHT AWAY, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE TEMPORARY RIGHT AWAY, UM, WITH THAT IN MIND. 
          AND PERHAPS WE CAN SEE, PERHAPS WE CAN SEE WHAT, WHAT, UM, CURRENT REVENUE YOU'RE DRAWING FROM THAT AND GO FROM THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THERE'S ROOM AND CERTAINLY WITH THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST DO WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THE OTHER SOURCES ARE CONTEMPLATED WITHIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
           HI. 
          YES, MARY, YOU KNOW, I TRY REMEMBER YEARS BACK THAT, UM, HOMEAWAY WAS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD COLLECT SALES, HOT TAX LOSS. 
          I WONDER, IS THAT STILL, HOW ARE WE COLLECTING THOSE TAXES FROM THEM OR, OR DID WE JUST DECIDED NOT? AND IF IT IS, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAP INTO THAT MONEY, CAUSE, UH, I UNDER MY UNDER AND I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT THERE, THERE WAS TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THERE, SO, OH, JUST, UH, WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE IF IT WAS THERE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. 
          CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE ALONG THE LIST OF THINGS THAT STAFF TAKES A TEXTBOOK THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE TAKE THAT THOSE DOLLARS. 
          YEP. 
          I AGREE THAT WE MADE A POLICY DECISION THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, TAKE THOSE DOLLARS AS IT BECOMES A, A FEE, UM, AN ACTIVITY THAT SAYS IT'S ALL THE LICENSED FACILITIES WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS LEGAL UNDER OUR, UNDER OUR SYSTEM. 
          UM, I ALSO DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD JUST BE HOT TAX AND WE WOULD, WOULD FOLLOW WITH THE ROTATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR TAX. 
          BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK THAT THIS IS LET'S, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND, AND SEE WHAT'S ALLOWED BY LAW OR ALLOW PRACTICALLY SPEAKING IN THE RESOLUTION THAT ASKS STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS ARE, PRACTICAL IMPLICATIONS, THE, THE, UH, COST, UH, UH, UH, OPPORTUNITY, COST IMPLICATIONS, AND COUNCIL MEMBER POOL. 
          I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOMETHING THAT KATHY SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEMPORARY. 
          AND SO MR. STILLER, WHO I THINK IS THE CAMERA THERE, I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS IS TEMPORARY, AND WE ARE PULLING OUT ALL THE STOPS IN ORDER TO LESS CUTE AND PROVIDE RELIEF FOR SECTORS OF OUR INCOME OF THE CITY'S ECONOMY, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN MORE THAN SIX MONTHS OF TRIAL. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE PUTTING EVERYTHING ON EVERYTHING. 
          AND THEN I'LL JUST REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, THE MILLIONS OF HUNDREDS, OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE COME TO OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OVER JUST THE WEST TO MOBILITY BONDS. 
          THERE WILL BE MORE COMING TO AUSTIN, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT BE PASSES. 
          AND SO IN THE SPIRIT OF SHARING AND EVERYBODY'S SACRIFICING SOME THANK YOU, MR. SILVA FOR, FOR, UH, PUTTING ON, UH, PUTTING CREATIVE AND, AND, UH, SUPPORT FOR THESE EFFORTS REALLY TO THE FLOOR. 
          I THINK THAT'S NECESSARY. 
          IT'S A GOOD ROLE MODEL THAT SHE'LL BE SHOWING EVERYBODY. 
          AND, UM, AND, AND YEAH, WE ALL NEED TO BE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU, COUNSEL. 
          ABSOLUTELY DO OUR BEST, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAPITAL DOLLARS AND OPERATING DOLLARS, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH THE MANAGER TO FIGURE THAT OUT, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. 
          ALRIGHT, GUYS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TWO, LET'S GO UP TO THE NEXT POLL ITEM, WHICH I THINK IS OUR LAST PULLED ITEM. 
          UH, WE HAVE 69 AND 70, WHICH I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IN 
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EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, ITEM ONE OH SIX, CAREFUL BY COUNCILOR FLANAGAN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I WANTED TO PULL THIS JUST TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PROCESS IS. 
          AS WE START TO ENTER INTO THIS CASE SHAPED RECOVERY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO, TO DELAY THIS ACTION ITSELF, BUT WE NEED TO START CONTEMPLATING HOW WE BETTER MANAGE THIS REALITY FOR, FOR OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THAT AS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE ECONOMIC REPORTS, YOU KNOW, THAT EMPLOYMENT IS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS LIKE SIX, SIX TO 7%. 
          IT'S NOT 25% OR SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY BIG. 
          AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UNDERSTANDING HOW FOLKS WHO ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OR WHO ARE, WHO ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY NEED THIS PROTECTION ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RECEIVING IT. 
          AND THAT, UM, FOLKS WHO ARE ABLE TO KEEP THEIR JOBS OR WHO WERE ABLE TO HAVE SOME FINANCIAL STABILITY ARE STILL PAYING THEIR RENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST TOO BIG OF A, OF A SOLUTION, WHEREAS THE PROBLEM NARROWS, I DUNNO HOW WE KEEP MOVING THIS FORWARD, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE THAT OTHER PROBLEM. 
          I SPONSOR, I, I CAN SHARE SOME OF MY THOUGHTS, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SOME AS WELL. 
          WELL, I THINK WE DO NEED TO DECRYPT THAT TSUNAMI ON THE BACKEND OF THIS AND FIGURE OUT HOW I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW TO DO THAT. 
          UM, I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE JUST A WHOLE SERIES OF, OF EXPERTS AND CONSULTANTS IN THIS FIELD, WORKING IN DIFFERENT CITIES, UH, WORKING ON RELIEF. 
          EVERY ONE OF MY ASKS, THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP WITH, UH, WITH THE PENT UP EVICTIONS ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS WHAT'S, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING? AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN ANSWER TO ANY OF THOSE THINGS YET. 
          MY, MY HOPE IS IS THAT MAYBE THERE'S A SOLUTION WHERE WE WOULD USE SOME OF THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE DOLLARS TO DO IT, TO ENCOURAGE LANDLORDS, TO ENTER INTO LONGTERM AGREEMENTS WITH TENANTS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD INDIVIDUALLY DO A WORKOUT ON A, ON A LEASE OR A LOAN WHEN YOU COULDN'T DO PAYMENTS. 
          BUT MAYBE THE FACT THAT WE CAN BRING MONEY AND LOOKS LIKE NOW THERE'S ADDITIONAL CBDG GRANT MONEY. 
          THAT SEEMS TO BE DIRECTED TOWARD RENTS. 
          MAYBE THERE'S A WAY FOR US, NOT ONLY TO PROVIDE THE RENTAL RELIEF, BUT PROVIDED IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES AN INCENTIVE FOR LANDLORDS AND TENANTS TO, TO, TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES NOW, UH, FOR, AND THEN, AND THEN EXTEND THE LEASE FOR 12 MONTHS. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT I SURE HOPE WE STRUGGLED TO FIND ONE SO THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY HELPING PEOPLE AVOID WHAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CRISIS, BUT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY THIS WEEK. 
          UH, BUT, UH, I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          AND MY HOPE IS THAT'S HOW WE FIGURE OUT SOMETHING MAYBE WITH THOSE CBDG FUNDS COUNCIL ORCHESTRA, DID YOU WANT TO RESPECT? NO. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT TODAY'S ACTION MAKES SENSE, GIVEN THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BANNED EVICTIONS, UH, AGAINST PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PAY THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          UM, THINKING BACK TO THE IMPORTANT ACTION THEY'VE TAKEN, WE SHOULD LINE UP OUR LOCAL RULES TO, UH, TO THE SAME THING. 
          BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER PLANNING, AGAIN, AS YOU RAISE THAT IS NOT, AND AS BASICALLY ANYBODY THAT HAS, UM, HAD A CHALLENGE PAYING THEIR RENT, THAT'S TAUGHT TO ME AS PHRASED THAT DOESN'T THE BACK END ISSUE OF WHAT DO WE DO ONCE WE, ONCE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ACCUMULATED A TON OF BACKGROUNDS THAT THEY CAN'T PAY. 
          UM, AND IF I HAD THE CLEAREST ANSWER IS THAT THIS IS A NATIONAL CRISIS AND A NATIONAL ISSUE AND A THOUGHTFUL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD ADDRESS IT. 
          UM, BUT AS WE SAW WITH THE SAVES RESOLUTION, WE JUST COVERED LIKE, W WE DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 
          WE HAVE A SENATE THAT HAS SAT ON THEIR HANDS ON PROVIDING RELIEF TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND WORKERS FOR MONTHS WITHOUT VOTING ANOTHER ACTION. 
          SO WE CAN'T RELY ON THAT. 
          UH, AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S ON US TO THINK ABOUT IF THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING, HOW DO WE START WORKING ON THIS? UM, RATHER THAN JUST CONTINUING AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO BAN EVICTIONS OF PEOPLE WHO JUST COULDN'T PAY BECAUSE OF THE DISASTER. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO START FIGURING OUT HOW WE, 
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UM, IF THE FEDERAL BAN, FOR EXAMPLE, GOES AWAY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE PENCE UP ISSUES THAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING? OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? YES, CATS WERE ALTERED AND COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN. 
          SO, SO I, I THINK WE DEFINITELY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THIS WEEK, AND I'M PLEASED THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THE ADDITIONAL, UM, FEDERAL DOLLARS TO HELP WITH EVICTIONS. 
          UM, I I'M, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TARGETED INFORMATION ON THE CHALLENGE HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, I WAS IN A REPORT FOR, WITH AN ECONOMIST ABOUT OUR ECONOMY, AND THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, 99% OF THEIR RENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY WERE BEING PAID ON TIME. 
          UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE JUST HAD THE SHIFT IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT, UM, AMOUNTS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT IS GOING TO HAVE A RIPPLE EFFECT THROUGH TIME. 
          UM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE HEARING ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM AND, AND THE DETAILS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING. 
          AND IF, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAVE INFORMATION OR ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH THEIR RENT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE DOING THE RENT PROGRAM AND THE EVICTION, BUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR WITH THE KIND OF, UM, CONFLICTING INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE GREATER CLARITY IF WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT THAT BACK THAT BACK END. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAN, THAN WHAT I HAVE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M TRYING TO, TO UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE, HOW THAT INFORMATION GOES TOGETHER. 
          UM, I FEEL THAT THE 99% LEVELS FOR MULTIFAMILY DOES NOT INCLUDE NECESSARILY THE FOLKS WHO ARE RENTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH, UM, THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF DELINQUENCIES IN THAT SITUATION THAT ARE NOT CAPTURED IN THE 99%, BUT, UM, TODAY AT LEAST UP TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD THAT CHANGE IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT AMOUNTS, UM, THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE SEEING AS COUNTERINTUITIVE AS IT MIGHT, MIGHT SEEM FROM WHAT THE ECONOMISTS WERE REPORTING. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF HAND, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST IS TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. 
          DID YOU WANT IT FLAT AGAIN? AND I THINK TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT CUSTOMER ULTRA IS SAYING THAT THE DATA PIECE SEEMS TO BE MISSING, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND IS, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT IS THE SCALE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING COVERED BY THIS PROTECTION AND ARE LANDLORDS ABLE TO REPORT THAT BACK TO THE CITY SO THAT THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ANONYMIZED WHERE I WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE WITH NAMES. 
          IT COULD JUST BE WITH NUMBERS, BUT SOME LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCALE OF THIS. 
          SO THAT FOLKS WHO THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, CAN ACTUALLY HAVE SOME DATA SHOWING WHAT IT'S REALLY DOING, COUNSEL EVER ALTER. 
          YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE STRUCTURE, TO YOUR LEFT YOU'RE MUTED, WHERE YOU'RE NOT MUTED, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL CALL IN WHILE SHE'S CALLING IN. 
          DID I SEE ANOTHER HAND RAISED, EVER HALTER? I WAS ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO ASK MS. TRUE LOVE IF SHE WANTED TO, TO SPEAK, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A DATA ISSUE OF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE AND THE SLICING OF IT. 
          UM, WE DID ALSO SET ASIDE SOME MONEY, UM, TO SUPPORT THE LANDLORDS. 
          UM, AND IF THE DATA THAT I'M HEARING FROM THE ECONOMIST IS CORRECT. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHIFT WITH LOSING THE UNEMPLOYMENT, UM, THE ADDITIONAL $600 THAT THAT'S GONNA RIPPLE THROUGH. 
          BUT THERE, THERE MAY BE THAT THAT IS PROVIDING SOME CLEAR DIRECTION FOR THOSE TENANTS, FOR THE LANDLORD SUPPORTS, UM, THAT WE NEED TO BE FACTORING IN. 
          THAT WOULD ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THE LANDLORDS HAVE IN THIS PROCESS FOR THEIR OWN WILD LIVELIHOODS. 
          UM, SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME PIECES OF THAT, BUT I'D LIKE US TO CONNECT THE DOTS. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT TO REMEMBER KITCHEN. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE OTHERS HAVE SAID. 
          I JUST, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AT THE EARLIER WE DISCUSSED THIS THE SAME ISSUES. 
          THE LAST TIME, THE EVICTION, WE DISCUSS WAYS TO ADDRESS SMALLER. 
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WE DID SOME THINGS IN PLACE TO DO THAT. 
          SO I THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT CONTINUING THE EVICTION MORATORIUM NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE STATUS OF THE THINGS WE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP OUT THE CONCERNS OF SMALLER LANDLORDS IN PARTICULAR NEED UNDERSTAND THE STATUS OF THOSE. 
          SO I THINK MANAGER THE QUESTION, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET ROSIE BACK IS GETTING A FEEL FOR WHAT IS THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE WITH RESPECT TO DELINQUENT OR DEFAULT PAYMENTS. 
          AND THEN SECOND, SINCE WE'VE RAISED THIS ISSUE BEFORE, WHAT HAVE WE DONE AND WHERE ARE WE IN, IN, IN GETTING RELIEF TO, ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER MOM AND POP LANDLORDS THAT NEED TO MAKE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS SOUNDS GOOD. 
          DIRECTOR, SHEILA, WERE YOU ABLE TO CALL IN, IF NOT, WE'LL ANSWER IT THROUGH THE Q AND A, SHOULD WE STILL DON'T HAVE ANY SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THE PULLED ITEMS WE HAVE. 
          COUNSEL, WE READY TO GO INTO, WHAT'S GOING TO BE A RATHER LENGTHY A EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          YES. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          DID YOU SAY MY NAME TO EVERYTHING FROZE? YES, THEY WERE PROTEINS. 
          WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT SEVEN DAMS. DID WE? I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO CONSIDER THAT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          OH, OH, THAT'S FINE. 
          I HAD, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE BEEN, I HAD THIS REPORTED TO ME. 
          THEY HAD BEEN PULLED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          I DIDN'T PULL IT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          YOU DON'T NEED ANYBODY. 
          CAN I ASK? I JUST, THIS IS, THIS HAS KEPT COMING BACK TO US AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          IT WAS INITIATED BECAUSE OF THE, UM, ZONING CASES THAT THAT WILL BE COMING UP IN. 
          AND SO IF WE, IF WE PASS THIS OVERLAY, I GUESS THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          IF WE, IF THIS OVERLAY PASSES, DOES THAT AFFECTIVE A REMAIN? WE DO NOT VOTE ON THE ZONING CASES BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T THAT WE COULD, THEY COULDN'T, THOSE THAT COULD NOT BE BUILT WITH THE OVERLAY PASSES. 
          HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOU COULD. 
          THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE OVERWEIGHT? THE EXCEPTION TO THE OVERWEIGHT IS TAKEN OUT, UM, THE BONY CASES, BUT THEN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE . 
          SO IT WOULD BE UNDER BAR THE PICKING THE EXCEPTION OUT CLARIFICATION. 
          AND SO I'M LIKE MY CONCERN WITH THIS ISN'T IF AIRPORT STUFF'S AVAILABLE CAN SPEAK TO IT, PLEASE DO. 
          BUT, UM, AGAIN, IT WAS INITIATED BECAUSE OF THE ZONING CASES AND WHILE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'VE, WE'VE MADE IT TO TAKE OUT THIS EXCEPTION. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW OF THE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT HAS HAPPENED TO CREATE BETTER, ESSENTIALLY ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS FOR PEOPLE AROUND THE AIRPORT. 
          AND MY CONCERN WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS, UM, NOISE. 
          AND WHAT HAVE YOU, MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS AND WE, WE CONSISTENTLY HEAR FROM, AS A DISTRICT THAT HAS THE AIRPORT IS IN ONE, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW NEIGHBORHOODS AND A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, GROWING UP IN, IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN IS, IS THAT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK? BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE THE NATURE OF THIS HAS BEEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS EXCEPTION OUT SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE ZONING CASES. 
          BUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK AND DO A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO DETERMINING IF THESE ARE THE RIGHT OVERLAYS FOR THIS AREA? BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IN ONE OF THOSE ZONING CASES, THEY HIRED A AIRPORT, AIRPLANE NOISE EXPERT GUY WHO, YOU KNOW, GAVE THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS FACT IS, IS, WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY BY PLANES. 
          AND SO THERE'S, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY, UM, THERE HAS NOT BEEN MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR IT. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS GOING TO PASS. 
          I WILL LIKELY ABSTAIN, BUT I DO WANT TO ADD SOME, SOME DIRECTION, UM, THAT WOULD DIRECT THE AIRPORT TO INITIATE A PROCESS, TO ANALYZE THESE, THIS OVERLAY AND ADD MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY BEFORE, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE AIRPORT EXPANSION AND POSSIBLY 
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A THIRD RUNWAY, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORE, UM, DETAILED LOOK AT WHAT THE REPORT OVERLAY IS. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M WORKING ON SOME LANGUAGE. 
          I WILL SHARE THAT WITH, I BELIEVE MY STAFF HAS SHARED IT WITH LAW AND SHARED IT WITH, UM, UM, THE AIRPORT STAFF, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, I WOULD PREFER WE DON'T VOTE ON THIS, UH, ON THURSDAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE RIGHT PROCESS TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IF WE DO, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOME DIRECTION. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          CHECK FOR SITE EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP 1670 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, FIVE COLLEAGUES. 
          I'M GOING TO READ COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER. 
          UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, IF WE WERE TO HAVE NOTICE ON THIS OVERLAY, UM, WOULD WE BE, UM, GIVING THAT NOTICE JUST TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE EXCEPTION AND IT'S CHANGING AND THE, AND THE PROPERTIES AROUND THEM OR THE WHOLE, OR THE WHOLE OVERLAY AND HOW MANY WOULD BE INVOLVED IN EITHER CASE. 
          AND IF THAT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION QUESTION, WE CAN ANSWER IT THERE. 
          I THINK HE HAS THE INFORMATION, BUT HOW MANY WE CAN TALK ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FIND, AND YOU MAY HAVE TO HELP ME GO THROUGH THIS SCRIPT HERE, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT I HAVE 60, 70 ON THE SCRIPT I HAVE AS WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HERE OR REMIND EVERYBODY, THIS IS MY HAM DAY IN, UH, IN AUSTIN, GREAT STREAMING GOING ON OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY, ESPECIALLY TONIGHT SEVEN TO 9:00 PM. 
          JACKIE VINSON AND OTHERS AM NEEDS TO RAISE $600,000. 
          TODAY. 
          I HAVE TO HELP MUSICIANS WITH THAT 
          [E. Executive Session -  E1. Discuss legal issues related to open government matters (Private consultation with legal counsel -
Section 551.071 of the Government Code). E2. Discuss real estate and legal matters related to the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of an interest in
real property and improvements for the Austin Convention Center (Real Property - Section 551.072 of
the Government Code and Private consultation with legal counsel- Section 551.071 of the Government Code). E3. Discuss the employment, duties, and evaluation of the City Manager (Personnel matters - Section
551.074 of the Government Code). E4. Discuss legal issues related to funding economic recovery efforts (Private consultation with legal
counsel- Section 551.071 of the Government Code).  Item 69. Conduct a public hearing and consider an ordinance amending City Code Title 25 to create the
Central Health Overlay district within the Downtown Austin Plan District Map. Item 70. Conduct a public hearing and consider an ordinance amending City Code Section 25-13-45 relating to compatible residential uses in Airport Overlay Zone Three (AO3).]
SAID THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOW GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TAKE UP, I THINK, POTENTIALLY FIVE ITEMS PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN, TWO AND FIVE FIVE ONE OH SEVEN ONE. 
          THE GOVERNMENT CODE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS REAL ESTATE LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE. 
          AND THE CONVENTION CENTER PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN FOUR. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM E THREE DUTIES, VALUATIONS TO THE CITY MANAGER PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, 171. 
          THE CITY CODE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO , WHICH IS FUNDING, ECONOMIC RECOVERY EFFORTS. 
          UH, ALSO ITEMS, UH, 60 AND NOW ALSO IN 1769 AND 70 LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO THOSE TWO. 
          SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION HEARING NONE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM. 
          IT IS TWO 50, UH, AT, UH, THREE O'CLOCK. 
          WE'RE GOING TO START THE EXECUTIVE SESSION 10 MINUTES. 
          SEE YOU THERE POTENTIALLY IN CLOSED SESSION, WE DISCUSSED THE LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEMS  AND REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED TO EAT TOO. 
          AND PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO E THREE. 
          IT IS A SIX 10. 
          AND WITH THAT I ADJOURN TODAY'S COUNCIL WORK SESSION, SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020 .
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