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OKAY, VERY GOOD.

OKAY.

[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order ]

WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.

I'M CALLING THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 6:05 PM.

AND HERE, UM, TODAY WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS ANDERSON IS OUR FLORES, AMPLE HOWARD, AND THAT'S KALITA STEGER, UH, POD SHAW, SHAY AND THOMPSON, UH, ABSENT TODAY, UH, IS COMMISSIONER SCHEIDER.

SO I THINK, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE OUR EX OFFICIO MEMBER, UH, DONNELY BURWELL, UM, WHO WAS ON WITH US A LITTLE EARLIER.

OH, THERE YOU ARE.

YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCREEN NOW COME UP.

ALRIGHT.

SO JUST A QUICK REMINDERS COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, YELLOW ITEMS READY TO VOTE.

UM, THAT'S ALWAYS ENTERTAINING TO SEE WHAT YOU BRING, UH, EACH, EACH CONDITIONED MEETING, UH, REMAIN NEEDED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.

AND IF I DON'T SEE YOU, CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE DAUNTING, SAME AS LITTLE SQUARES.

AND IF I MISS YOU, UH, FOR SOME REASON, UH, AND YOU NEED TO, UH, USE OR BOYS, JUST LET ME KNOW IF I'VE MISSED YOU AND I'M NOT SEEING YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.

UM, WE ARE MISSING TWO MEMBERS.

UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, STILL SEVEN VOTES ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE MOTION, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOWN TO AND, UH, FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OUT THERE.

UH, JUST, UH, ONE THING WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP REMINDING IS USE A STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, AND IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU DID NOT HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.

YOU WILL RECEIVE AN EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM TAPE TAKING UP THE ITEM.

SO, UM,

[Reading of the Agenda ]

WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO THE SABOTAGING THE CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.

AND FOR THOSE LISTENING, UM, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST ACTIVITY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE AGENDA AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS. I'M GOING TO READ TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UH, WHICH ONLY HAVE A FEW, UM, AND IDENTIFIED THOSE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF OR CONSENT APPROVAL AND THOSE LITTLE CODES, CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS AND NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR A DISCUSSION OF AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO PULL THE ITEM FOR DISCUSSION AFTER I'VE READ THROUGH THE AGENDA.

SO JUST HANG IN THERE.

WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH ANY ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO PULL EITHER BY COMMISSIONERS OR THOSE THAT ARE ON THE PHONE A LITTLE LATER.

SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, ITEM MAY IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

UH, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? ALL RIGHT, SEEING THAT MINE WILL MOVE THOSE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

UM, NOW JUST GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR TONIGHT.

UH, ON SECTION B, WE'LL START WITH ITEM B.

ONE IS IN GRETA ZONING, C 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO EIGHT FIVE LESSON LANE VILLAS AT TWO 19 LESSON LANE.

UH, AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDED, UH, RE REZONE FROM SF THREE AND P TO SF SIX AND P.

AND THIS ITEM IS FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D TWO S P TWO ZERO ONE NINE ZERO THREE TWO EIGHT DASH 10 10 CLAREMONT, 43, NORTH 35 SERVICE ROAD NORTHBOUND.

THIS IS A SITE PLAN DARIEN SUCCEED, ALLOWED OR ALLOWABLE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS.

AND IT IS, UH, ON CONSENT RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS.

AND, UH, THE APPLICANT NOTED HERE AS THE APPLICANT APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO THE STAFF CONDITIONS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.

SO THAT IS A, UM, CONSENT ITEM, ITEM THREE, ALSO ON CONSENT, UH, IS THE SITE PLAN C U P SPC 2019 ZERO FIVE 98, 76, RANDY.

UH, THIS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS, UH, IN OUR BIG GRINDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THAT REALLY QUICK.

IT'S, UH, UNDER CONSENT.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM

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82 DAY THREE, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, UM, AS WELL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND WITH THAT, UM, DO ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS, EITHER A KIDS THEMSELVES, UH, ANY ITEMS TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, NONE.

UH,

[Consent Agenda ]

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ACRONYMS FOR DISCUSSION? THERE'S ONLY ONE LEFT AND OR OTHERWISE HAVE QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST MOVING ALONG HERE.

SO, UH, DO ANY OF THE PARTICIPANTS ON THE PHONE WANT TO PULL ANYTHING, UH, FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.

WELL WITH THAT, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, APPROVED AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, FROM THERESA SEGER WITH A MOTION SECONDED BY MR. SHANNON.

UH, ALRIGHT.

SO I GUESS ALL IN FAVOR OF EMOTION, LET'S SEE, I'M GETTING OKAY.

THERE'S A GRADE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[B1. Rezoning: C14-2020-0085 - Lessin Lane Villas; District 3 ]

OKAY.

WELL WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THIS IS, UH, OUR FIRST NOE DISCUSSION ITEM.

UH, I'M A V ONE AND THIS IS A AGAIN, IT'S A REZONING, UH, UH, C 14 DASH 2020 ZERO ZERO EIGHT FIVE OR LESS THAN LANE.

AND LET'S, WE WILL START IN ONE SECOND, GET MY SPEAKER LIST.

ALRIGHT.

UH, JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF, UH, WHO DO WE HAVE REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENTS TODAY? DO WE HAVE ANY ONE FROM, UH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS? ZONING DEPARTMENT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S A TWO, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS OUR QUESTIONS TWO THIS EVENING ON THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, JUST WANNA REMIND PARTICIPANTS, UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, LOOKING AT THE SPEAKER SHEET HERE FOR BEING ONE.

I HAVE THE APPLICANT, UH, MOBILE, LET STAFF GO FIRST, UH, WITHOUT PRESENTATION ON THIS CASE CHAIR.

YES.

I'M GIVING A STRANGE FEEDBACK.

I CAN ALMOST SOUND LIKE A PENCIL BEING SHARP IS ANY, IF I'M ALONE IGNORE.

DOES ANYONE GET A STRANGE FEEDBACK NOW? IT'S A, I'M GETTING IT TOO, SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S, IF IT'S ME TALKING, IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH MY DEVICE.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

UM, NO WORRIES.

IF WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I WAS JUST GONNA SHARE THAT IT'S THERE, BUT IT CAN STILL HEAR EVERYBODY YEAH.

ON THE SOUND CHECK.

UH, I ASK IT, STAFF COULD HEAR IT AND THEY SAID NO, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN, AND OTHERS CAN TOO.

SO I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT CHECKED OUT.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

CAUSE IT'S ANNOYING ON MY END, I COULD TELL.

UH, OKAY.

SO LET'S START WITH STAFF ON ITEM B, ONE WITH THE PRESENTATION, WITH THE PLANNING AND BURNING DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS TEMPER.

SEE 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO EIGHT FIVE.

THIS PROPERTY'S LOCATED AT TWO 19 WESTERN LANE AND IS APPROXIMATELY 1.45 ACRES IN SIZE.

IN ADDITION TO US AND LANE, IT IS ALSO ACCESSIBLE FROM RIANNA STREET OR KREBS LANE AND FORT MAGRUDER LANE.

IT IS CURRENTLY DONE S AND P AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY EXCESS THREE MPS TURNING TO THE WEST NORTH AND THE SOUTH ACROSS FORT MAGRUDER LANE IS A PROXY SOUND G R E N P.

ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY IS FLOOD PLAIN IN THE EAST BUILDING CREEK, WHICH SEPARATES HIS PROPERTY FROM THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES.

THAT'S RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO READ THAT ON TO SF SIX, AUNTIE THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR MODERATE DENSITY, SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX, TWO FAMILY TOWNHOUSE AND CONDOMINIUM USES ON LARGER LOT.

THIS PROPERTY IS OVER AN ACRE IN SIZE WITH ACCESS THE THREE STREETS ON THREE SIDES OF IT.

ADDITIONALLY, THE SSPS DOWNING ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBILITY IN SITE DESIGN, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR SITES CONTAINING

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ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS, SUCH AS LARGE CLUSTERS OF TREES IN FLOODPLAIN AREAS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICANT'S INTENDED USE TO BE A PROPERTY.

AND THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE ZONING DISTRICT.

THAT CONCLUDES MY SUMMARY.

, UM, GLASGOW STAR SIX TO UNMUTE WELL I'M ALEX GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

UM, UM, SPEAKING TO THE CASE THAT STAFF JUST PRESENTED.

SO THE FIRST SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE FIGHT HAD HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING CHANGE IS REALLY NOT.

SO DENSITY, UNLIKE MOST CASES THAT YOU RECEIVE THIS CASE HAS TO DO WITH, UM, PROVIDING THE DEVELOPER THE ABILITY TO ORIENT THE UNIT ON ONE LOG IN A MARCH MO OCCUPY TEXTURALLY AND AESTHETICALLY PLEASING MANNER.

SO AGAIN, UNDER SF THREE ZONING, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE DENSITY IS BETWEEN 18 AND 22 UNITS.

THAT'S WHAT IS ALLOWED, I'LL EVER BE ACHIEVABLE.

NUMBER OF UNITS ON THIS LOT WOULD BE, UM, 16 UNITS UNDER THE SFC ZONING DISTRICT.

THE MAXIMUM ACHIEVABLE DENSITY IS 18 UNITS AND THE ACHIEVABLE DENSITY IS 17 UNITS.

AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH ALL OF THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.

NEXT SLIDE.

SORRY.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BETWEEN SFC AND THAT SUFFIX.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR MAXIMUM.

SO DISCOVER.

AND THE FACT THAT UNDER SF, UNLIKE OF THREE, THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.

SO FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE SOUTH OF US, WHERE WE ARE JOINED SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING, OUR BUILDINGS HAVE TO BE SET BACK 25 FEET FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

SO PROVIDING A 25 FOOT, NO BUILD ZONE BETWEEN THE POP TO MINE AND WHERE OUR HOMES BEGIN.

SO IF YOU COULD MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, WELL, THAT'S COMING UP UNDER THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.

THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO SERVICE BETWEEN 25 AND 50 FEET, THEREFORE PROVIDING MUCH A PROTECTION FOR THE IMMEDIATE LABORS.

SO THIS SLIDE IS THE SF SLIDE AS I CALL IT.

SO THE REASON WE'RE ASKING FOR SFC ZONING EAST TO ALLOW ONE DRIVEWAY ONTO THE SIDE FROM LESSEN LANE TO PRIVATE LANE AND VICE VERSA, THIS ALLOWS THE APPLICANT DEVELOPERS TO ALL THE END, THE DETACHED HOMES, 17 OF THEM ARE AROUND THE INTERNAL DRIVEWAY.

SO THE NUMBER OF UNITS HERE WOULD BE 17.

THE MAXIMUM IS 18 ON THE SF SIX.

THE MAXIMUM PERVIOUS COVER IS BASED ON THE ENTIRE SITE AND WE'RE SHOWING 43, 8.8% IN PURCHASE COVER BASED ON THE ENTIRE SIDE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM SF THREE, BECAUSE AS OF THREE ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 35% IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR EACH UNIT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE IS SLIDE.

NUMBER FOUR JUST SHOWS YOU THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.

AND WE PUT THIS TOGETHER BASED ON A MEETING WE HAD WITH OUR, WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE TUESDAY MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY NEEDED NEIGHBORS.

AND THIS HIGHLIGHTS THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, THE PINK AREA IS THE 25 FOOT NO BUILD ZONE, WHICH YOU DO NOT GET UNDER SF THREE.

YOUR SETBACK ON THE SS THREE IS JUST FIVE FEET.

SO THE HOMES WOULD BE AT THREE STORIES UNDER SF THREE ON THE ASSETS, SIX, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT UNDER THE SFX BETWEEN 25 AND 50 FEET IS TWO STORIES OF 30 FEET.

SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE IN COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.

THAT'S SPECS THAT SSP DOES NOT PROVIDE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT ZONE IS THE HIGH STEP THAT'S BETWEEN 25 AND 50 FEET.

AND THEN THE YELLOW AREAS YOU CAN GO TO POLICE.

SO HE'S UP 40 FEET AND A FEW BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE NEXT SLIDE JUST HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, AN

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ORIENTATION BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADJACENT OPTI OWNERS.

SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING, ONE OR TWO, HAVE A PICTURE THAT SHOWS ON EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE ORIENTED, VIS-A-VIS THEIR LOT LINES.

SO THIS SHOWS YOU THE PALMS FACING WILSON STREET.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE ARE LOCKED LINES COME ALL THE WAY TO EASTERN BOLDEN CREEK AND ALL PROPERTIES OF THE HOMES ARE ORIENTED IN THIS MANNER.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE, A LOT OF, UM, OPENNESS WITH THIS SITE.

AND OF COURSE, ACCESS SIX REQUIRES BETTER PROTECTION OF TREES AND MORE OF THEM, IF YOU WILL, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE NEXT SLIDE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED ON THE SF THREE.

SO UNDER SF THREE, AS I INDICATED OUT EARLIER, THE PROPERTY CAN BE SUBDIVIDED INTO INDIVIDUAL LOSS.

THIS IS A SUBDIVISION LAYOUT UNDER SRE.

SO THIS HAS NINE LOSS.

AND THE FIRST THREE LOTS ON LESSENED LANES WOULD BE DUPLEX SLOTS, WHICH HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 7,000 SQUARE FEET EACH AT A MINIMUM.

AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE TWO UNITS ON EACH LOT.

THE SETBACK FROM THE SOUTH WATERLINE IS JUST FIVE FEET AND THE MASS AND THE HEIGHT THERE WOULD BE 32 FEET OF BUILDINGS, THREE STORIES.

SO PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ASSET THREE AND THAT'S A SIX FOR THE NEIGHBORS ARE LISTENING.

SO YOUR SF, THIS SETBACK IS A THREE STORY BUILDING 32 FEET, TALL, FIVE FEET AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORS ALPHABETS.

YEAH, IMPERVIOUS COVER.

SO EACH LOT IS 45% THAT WE TROT, UM, AS SUBDIVIDED AND ALLOWED UNDER SF THREE, YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OPEN SPACE.

YOU HAVE CANNED DRIVEWAY, SO YOU HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY TO MAGRUDER.

SO EACH LOSS ON THIS AREA HAS A POLICE.

THAT DRIVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, COMING ONTO EITHER A CREDS LANE OR ONTO LESSEN LANE.

SO YOU DO HAVE A LOT MORE IN FRONT OF THIS COVER UNDER THE SF THREE SUBDIVISION, WHICH CAN DO ACHIEVE, I KNOW SOME NEIGHBORS THING, BUT IT'S NOT CHEAP BUBBLE, BUT IT IS ACHIEVABLE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST SHOWS YOU MY LAST SLIDE, WHICH SHOWS YOU A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO SCENARIOS YOU'RE AS A PERSON AREA VERSUS YOUR ASSET SCENARIO.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THE, UM, THE TOP ONE IS THE ETHICAL SCENARIO WHERE YOU HAVE 16 HOMES AND UNDER A SUBDIVISION.

SO YOU HAVE NINE LOSS AND, UM, THE LOWER BOTTOM OFF THE EXHIBIT IS YOUR F FIXED SCENARIO.

SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE OPENNESS AND, UH, THE, UH, JUST WIDE DRIVEWAY IN AND ONTO THE SIDE, AS OPPOSED TO 10 DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS AND TO GET YOUR METH AND PROTEUS COVER MORE PRE PRESERVATION.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, THE NEXT PAPER I SHOW HERE, UH, FOR BESIDE HIM IS CHRISTOPHER, NOT THE NEATO START SIX MUTE, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS ANTHONY NIDO WITH URBAN ATX DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES INTRODUCING MYSELF AND OUR COMPANY AND, UH, REITERATING A FEW OF ALICE'S POINTS.

AND SO FOR THE DURATION OF MY PRESENTATION, I'D LIKE TO REMAIN ON THE LAST SLIDE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

UM, MY COMPANY URBAN ATX IS A LUXURY HOME BUILDER AND A DEVELOPER.

UM, WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON BUILDING THINGS THAT, UM, THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEAUTIFUL, UM, FRANKLY.

AND SO WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND WE BEGAN DESIGNING IT WITH THE INTENTION OF RE SUBDIVIDING IT INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT SF THREE LOS AND UTILIZING THE TYPICAL USES A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, TWO FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL, UM, WE ENDED UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THAT SLIDE PRESENTATION, UM, WHICH I WAS HOPING THAT WOULD REMAIN ON, BUT, UM, WE HAD NINE LOSS, 16 UNITS, UM, AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT OR MIDWAY THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT AND OUR DESIGN THROUGH OUR PLANNING PROCESS AND GETTING INTO THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

AND WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS NOT THAT APPEALING.

UM, BUT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UGLY.

UM, I DIDN'T LIKE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO BUILD, UM, SEVERAL LARGE DEEP FLEXES.

A LOT OF THESE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, INCLUDING, UM, EXEMPTIONS FOR GARAGES

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AND ADDICTS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

THESE WOULD BE BUILDINGS THAT WOULD BE NEARLY 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND BECAUSE OF SITE CONSTRAINTS, INCLUDING THE FLOOD PLAIN, UM, INHERITED TREES, UM, WE WOULD SORT OF BE SQUEEZING SOME OF THESE BIG BUILDINGS, UM, IN LESS THAN IDEAL POSITIONS.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, ON THAT SLIDE PRESENTATION, UH, THE BOTTOM RIGHT LOT IN THE SF THREE ORIENTATION, THE RE SUBDIVISION IS A PARTICULARLY GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE TO JOG THE DRIVEWAY AROUND CRITICAL ROOT ZONE OF ALL OF THESE PROTECTED TREES.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO PUT THE DUPLEX ITSELF ALL THE WAY AGAINST THE FIVE FOOT BUILDING SETBACK.

AND SO, UM, AT SOME POINT IN PROCESS, WE JUST KIND OF STEPPED BACK AND WE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER, UM, DEVELOPMENT IF WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP IT UNDER CONDO RESIDENTIAL USE.

AND SO THAT'S BEGAN OUR PROCESS OF, UH, OPPOSING THIS REZONE.

AND AS ALEX MENTIONED BETWEEN THE SITE CONSTRAINTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TREES AND THE FLOOD PLAIN AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE, UM, THAT'S A SIX JUST SIMPLY ALLOWS US FOR A MUCH MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING USE OF THE SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AGAIN, NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY, UM, THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND THE FAR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ARE WELL WITHIN THE THRESHOLD, BUT THAT'S AT THREE ANYWAY.

UM, AND THE DAY WE CAN TAKE AND WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT SMALLER UNIT, WHICH ALLOWS BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT TO OFFER, BUT AT A MORE REASONABLE PRICE, THREE MINUTES, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD.

UM, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. OUT TO NIETO.

UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, DAVEY.

NICK YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE START SIX.

HOW ABOUT NOW? I CAN HEAR YOU NOW HEAR ME NOW.

I THINK I HAD MY PHONE MUTED AND YOU HAD TO BE NEAR TO GOTCHA.

OKAY.

UH, MY NAME IS NIKITA AND I'M THE ARCHITECT, UH, WORKING WITH URBAN ATX ON THIS PROJECT.

UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH URBAN ATX FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW ON A COUPLE OF DOZEN PROJECTS, AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

AND, UM, FROM THE OUTSET OF THIS PROJECT, UM, WE WERE TASKED WITH, UM, KIND OF FINDING WAYS TO MAKE THE PROPERTY WORK, UM, TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE FOR, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, BUT AS WELL AS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO THE TYPICAL WAY THAT WE WORK IN, IN SOUTH AUSTIN IS TO, UM, WE COULD AN INFILL LOT AND WE'D DEVELOP IT, UM, AS NEEDED FOR, UM, A PRODUCT THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN SELL FOR, UM, UH, AN END BUYER OR EVEN FOR A CUSTOM USER.

UM, BUT, UH, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS PROJECT AND STARTED LAYING OUT ALL OF THESE LOTS WITH THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE TREES AND THE FLOODPLAIN AND, UM, MAKING IT MAKES SENSE, IT JUST FELT A LITTLE BIT, UM, BUT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, TAKE A DIFFERENT SORT OF APPROACH ON IT.

CHRIS ACTUALLY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH THIS IDEA OF DOING SF, UM, WHICH ARE, UM, A MUCH SMALLER SCALE, THE HOME AND, UM, WOOD THAT WE COULD OFFER BACK INTO THE MARKET AND MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE RATES.

UM, SO IT WAS VERY APPEALING TO WANTED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF, UM, OUT OF EXEMPTED DUPLEXES.

UM, SO WE, WE TOOK A STAB AT PUTTING THIS ONTO PAPER.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS ON THIS, A ONE OH SEVEN SHEET THAT WE WERE SHARING, UH, THE SCALE OF THE, OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS MUCH SMALLER, MUCH MORE IN SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, IT PUSHES EVERYTHING AWAY FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORS TOWARDS THE CENTER.

UH, SO IT GIVES A LOT MORE, A LOT MORE PRIVACY TO THE NEIGHBORS.

IT GIVES A LOT MORE, UM, WE HAVE TWO ACCESSES FROM ONE FROM LESSEN LANES AND ONE FROM KREBS, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF DRIVEWAYS DUMPING OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'VE GOT ALL OF

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OUR PARKING CONTAINED WITHIN OUR LITTLE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE, UH, STREET PARKING WOULD BE MINIMIZED.

UM, WE JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS A VERY MUCH A WIN-WIN FOR, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

UM, WE COULD OFFER MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL VERSUS, UM, PUTTING ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOMES ON THE MARKET.

IT JUST FELT LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

SO, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE JUMPED FORWARD WITH IT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME LOOKING AT IT.

AND WE HOPE THAT YOU AGREE WITH US THAT THIS IS A, AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN SOUTH AUSTIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO THAT WRAPS UP THE PROPONENTS.

AND NOW SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION, AND LET'S START WITH THE PRIMARY SPEAKER HERE.

I HAVE FIVE MINUTES, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME ON THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? UM, AND, UM, LOOKING AT SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, BUT, UM, MY PRESENTATION IS SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

UM, I WANTED TO START BY THANKING, UM, MS. GLASGOW AND THE OTHER FOLKS ON HER TEAM FOR BEING SO WILLING TO MEET WITH NEIGHBORS.

UM, WE DISCUSSED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND I THINK I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH HOW RESPONSIVE THEY HAVE BEEN TO, UH, CONVERSATIONS.

UM, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BEING PUT IN SUCH AN AUTONOMOUS STATE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP.

UH, CRAIG LANE HAS A SHARP BEND.

UH, THAT'S A BLIND TURN.

IF YOU ARE PULLING OUT OF ANY OF THE DRIVEWAY'S ALREADY THERE WHEN THE RISK OF BEING RUN INTO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM HAWAII TO HELLO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW US WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE MATERIALS THAT GO ALONG, UM, TRAFFIC AND PARKING IMPORTANT CONCERNS.

NEIGHBORS ALSO WERE UNHAPPY AT THE THOUGHT THAT THIS WOULD BE A GATED COMMUNITY WITH MILLION DOLLAR HOMES FOR PREVIOUSLY.

THERE HAD BEEN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND, UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT BUILDER'S BEEN TO LEAVING THAT SPACE OPEN AND PERHAPS ALLOWING NEIGHBORS TO USE THIS ON A PEDESTRIAN BASIS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL CONTINUE TO WALK IN THIS AREA.

AND WHAT I DO WISH TO DISCUSS MY MORE DETAIL IS JUST THE FACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS PROBABLY HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE BEFORE ANYTHING IS BEING BUILT.

AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IF YOU COMPARE ONE YEAR AGO UNTIL NOW THAT'S BEEN CHANGING QUITE A LOT TO ASK THAT THE CITY GAVE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR PERHAPS A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT COVENANT WITH THE CITY IN FORCE, BUT WE CAN NEGOTIATE THE TERMS WITH THE DEVELOPER SO THAT THE PROJECT ACTUALLY COMES TO FRUITION.

WHAT WE HAVE IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBOR, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AT TIMES APPEARS TO TAKE THE POSITION THAT IT'S THEIR JOB TO MAXIMIZE DEVELOPER AND BUILDER PROFITS OVER THE CONCERNED OF NEIGHBORS.

AND YOU I'M SURE ARE AWARE BECAUSE THERE'S DEFINITELY RESULTS IN HAPPY NEIGHBORHOODS OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, ALTHOUGH TO BE HONEST, THIS IS NOT BY ANY STRETCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT'S JUST OUT OF REACH THEN WHAT OTHERWISE MIGHT BE BROKE.

UM, FURTHERMORE, WE'RE NOT AS AN AID AND HAYDEN OPPOSITION TO EARN AN INFANT.

PROJECT'S QUITE THE CONTRARY, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IT CONSTRUCTED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN HARMONIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AT LEAST AT THIS STAGE IN THE PROJECT IS WILLING TO TALK TO US AND DISCUSS WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY CONCERNS REGARDING HIS QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT SAFETY CONCERNS INVOLVING THINGS LIKE A BLIND NEIGHBORS WHO HAD PROBLEMS WHEN IT COMES TO QUIRKY UP AND BROWN.

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UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR MISTAKE AND I WANT TO, AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE BUILDING IN THIS INSTANCE.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SIT IN TO STAND WITH US AND MAKING SURE THAT A SUBSEQUENT OWNER OR SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT MAY BUY IT IS PROBABLY THE FUTURE DOESN'T COME ALONG AND BUILD SOMETHING ENTIRELY INCOMPATIBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME, SIR? YES, I CAN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SIR.

UH, DO ALL YOUR PLANNING, COMMISSIONERS HAVE MAPS OF THE I'M HOPING THEY DO.

THEY HAVE THE BACKUP? OKAY, WELL, UH, UH, MY LAST NAME IS RE RE NAH, NOT, NOT.

UM, I APOLOGIZE FROM THIS PART FOR MISPRONOUNCING MY NAME, BUT WE'VE, UH, I'M LIKE THE THIRD GENERATION THAT'S LIVED HERE AND I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE LAST FEW.

AND, UH, IF THIS KEEPS HAPPENING THE WAY IT DOES, IT'S GOING TO EVEN DRIVE ME OUT.

UM, I OWN A HOUSE.

I WAS BORN IN AT TWO OH NINE DUMB ASS AND MY GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE HAD TWO 11 DONE THAT, AND I RENT THOSE AT VERY REASONABLE PRICES, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.

UM, IT'S GONNA FORCE ME TO RAISE THE RENT OR EVEN BE FORCED TO SELL MY PROPERTY ONE DAY, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO DO.

THAT'S A LOT OF MEANING TO IT MORE THAN MONEY, BUT, UH, MY OBJECTION AND JULIE IS RIGHT ABOUT PARKING.

UM, I WOULD BE OKAY IF THEY WOULD ALL, UH, LEAVE OUT OF LESSON, NO DRIVEWAY AT FRED'S.

AND NOW IF YOU LOOK WHERE THAT'S, UH, WHEN THEY MEET RIGHT NOW IN KREBS, UH, LIKE MEET TOGETHER, BUT THAT DRIVEWAY IS, AND, UH, THEY WOULD ELIMINATE THAT.

THAT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

NOT ONLY THAT, THE PART UP THE STREET AT SEVEN, EIGHT, SEVEN, FOUR BAR, WHEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OR WHEN THEY HAVE STUFF GOING ON AT THE COLOMBIAN CAFE, CARS ARE ALL PARKED ALL THE PLACE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A MAD HOUSE.

ALSO.

UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO THE U PROPOSAL'S GOING TO BE TOO HIGH.

IT'S GOING TO BE 35, 36 FEET.

AND RIGHT NOW TO MY HOUSE, I CAN SEE DOWNTOWN WITH THAT HEIGHT EXTENSION.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE DOWNTOWN ANYMORE, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

BUT THEN TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME LIKE THAT, UM, ANOTHER CONCERN IS POLLUTION FROM THE WATER OFF MORE CARS, MORE POLLUTION GOING IN THERE.

AND MOST OF THAT LOTS IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, A SECOND DATE, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A TRAVESTY AND A LIE.

I'D MAKE THINGS AFFORDABLE AT MILE HOMES FOR VENDORS THAT CAN AFFORD IT.

THIS PLACE, HE TALKS ABOUT A HALF, A MILLION DOLLARS.

YEAH.

INSTEAD OF HALF A MILLION, IT'S GONNA BE $100,000.

THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THERE AND THAT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG.

UM, I'M KINDA UPSET AS YOU CAN TELL, BECAUSE HE, PEOPLE HAVE NO INTEREST.

ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS MAKE MONEY.

AND I THINK I'M THERE LAST WELL.

HE CAN HEAR.

UM, AND I PROBABLY WILL BE GONE ONE DAY, BUT AS LONG AS I'M HERE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE GROWTH.

I MEAN, LIMITED.

AND HE CUTS.

DON'T LET THEM DO THIS TO US.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

I'M 63 YEARS OLD AND WE GO FISHING.

AND THAT CREEK BACK THERE USED TO BE AT PINK BEFORE THAT THERE WAS A DAIRY COST.

AND IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE SPEAK TO ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CARMEN.

YES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CARNEGIE HERNANDEZ.

AND TODAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE TWO, ONE SEVEN, LESS THAN TWO 16 CONDOMINIUM OWNERS ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED.

WE ARE THE NEIGHBORS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND AFFECTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER EARLIER THIS MONTH, THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED, AND WHILE WE RECEIVED ANSWERS FOR EVERYTHING,

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IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE DEVELOPER WAS WILLING TO MAKE CONCESSIONS ON ANYTHING.

WE OBJECT TO THE REZONING FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

NUMBER ONE IS THE TRAFFIC LESS THAN CREPT ARE ALREADY VERY CONGESTED SO THAT THE POPULATION WILL NOT PROVIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OUR STREETS WOULD FILL UP WITH CARS FROM PATRONS, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES WITH MISS MARINA MENTIONED, UM, THE CRUX JAM, THE COSMIC COFFEE LOUNGE AND THE COLOMBIAN COFFEE SHOP.

BUT, UM, LATELY AS BUSINESSES INCREASE PATRON CAPACITY, THE TRAFFIC IS ALSO INCREASING AGAIN.

MY SECOND OBJECTION IS THE DATE DURING OUR MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPER WAS AGREEABLE TO NOT BUILD DATE, TO BLOCK THE PRIVATE STREET, BUT AFTER THE HOUSES ARE SOLD, THE PROPERTY OWNERS FEEL WITHOUT A DOUBT, ONE TO INSTALL A DATE, TO KEEP THE IMMENSE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THEIR PRIVATE STREET.

THIS WILL CAUSE AN UNDESIRABLE BOTTLENECK EFFECT ON BOTH LESS THAN INCREDIBLE.

NUMBER THREE IS THE ORIENTATION OF OUR HOMES MAKES US IN AT THE FRONT DOOR OF TWO 16 KREBS PIECES DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF A PROPOSED 1700 SQUARE FOOT.

THAT'S THE GARAGE HOME SHUT THE IMPACTS WITH THREE STORY PROPERTIES ON OUR FENCE LINE ARE SITTING THERE, SITTING OUT ON MY SECOND STORY.

TALK TO ME.

I WILL BE THINKING THE BACK WALL OF ANOTHER HOME, BLOCKING EVERYTHING IN MY VIEW AND MY THOUGHT I DIDN'T MISS THE TREES, BEAUTIFUL TREES AND A LOT OF GREEN SPACE IN ORDER TO FIT THE ANOXIC AMOUNT OF HOUSES THAT THE DEVELOPER INTENDS TO BUILD.

WE WON'T LOSE MOST OF THE GREEN SPACES.

SO MANY TREES.

THIS WILL LEAD TO MORE FLOODING AREA ALREADY PRONE TO FLOODING.

SO TAKING THE PROPERTY AS ASSETS THREE GUARANTEES WITH A BETTER CHANCE THAT THERE WILL BE LESS HOMES BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.

WE UNDERSTAND THROUGH THE DRAWING, THE BUILDER PRESENTERS, THAT THEY CAN BUILD HOMES ON SF THREE, BASED ON CURRENT CODE QUESTION, THIS NUMBER BASED OFF OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND THE DIFFICULTIES THAT THEY HAD IN TRYING TO SUBDIVIDE THIS PROPERTY.

WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD, THE BUILDER SHARED WITH THE HOMEOWNER THAT THEY CAME TO BUILD EIGHT HOMES ON THE LOT LUXURY TOWNHOMES AS A FREESTYLE FORMAL PROMISING, AND ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT I JUST PRESENTED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY CONTINUES TO PUSH FOR URBAN INFILL WITH HIGH DENSITY, BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC NOISE AND TRASH, BUT SO MANY MORE HOMES THAT BRINGS US UP SUCH A SMALL SPACE AND TWO TINY STREETS.

HE'S CONSIDERING THE REZONING TO UNLESS THE CITY COULD CAP THE NUMBER OF HOUSES TO 25 OR 50% LESS THAN THE 17 THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PLANS BUILD ASSETS.

THIS IS A CURVE PLEASE LIMIT THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS LOWER UNIT PER ACRE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THE LAST WEEK, OR WE HAVE, UH, IN OPPOSITION IS REBECCA SCHELLER, UH, STAR SIX ON NUCLEUS.

SORRY.

UH, DID YOU GUYS HEAR ME ANNOUNCE, ANNOUNCING NEXT SPEAKER.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I WASN'T DOING I REBECCA SHELLER.

YOU'RE THE NEXT SPEAKER? THIS IS REBECCA.

SCHELLER GOOD EVENING.

THE PROPERTY TWO OH NINE CHRIS LANE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT TWO 19 LESSON, UH, REALLY, UM, HOPE THAT YOU'LL TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY TWO 19 LESSON LANE AND WHAT A STRANGE SHAPED PROPERTY IT IS.

YEAH, IT'S 1.4 SOMETHING ACRES, BUT IT'S A DOG LEG.

THAT'S AT A DEAD END AT LESSON LANE.

NO, NO THROUGH TRAFFIC THERE.

AND IT RUNS ALONG EAST BOULDER CREEK.

ALSO FORT MAGRUDER LANE IS ONE WAY COMING TOWARDS RAINA AND, UM, RAINA AND KREBS ARE, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE STREET REALLY ON A BLIND CURVE AS SOME PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED.

AND SO IT'S, UM, IT'S A REALLY AWKWARD TRAFFIC FLOW.

MY MAIN OPPOSITION IS REALLY ABOUT THE DENSITY THAT'S PROPOSED AND IT'S SO FRUSTRATING THAT ACTUAL LAND USE DOES NOT COME WITH ZONING BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT ONCE THIS IS REZONED, SOMEONE CAN PRETTY MUCH DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO UNDER ZONING.

UM, I WILL JUST, I LOOKED AT THE NOTICE THAT I RECEIVED AND THIS SIX ZONING, THE LATTER PART OF THE DESCRIPTION SAYS THAT IT'S UNUSUALLY LARGE, LOTS PREDOMINANT WITH ACCESS TO OTHER THAN MINOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, OTHER THAN MINOR RESIDENTIAL STREETS.

AND THIS IS ON A CURVE AND A DEAD END AND IN SELECTED AREAS WHERE TRANSITION FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY USES APPROPRIATE.

AND THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT THE

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CASE.

IN FACT, 17 UNITS ON THIS LOT WILL BE MORE THAN THE CURRENT, UH, HOUSES THAT ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF LESS THAN MINE.

AND THAT EVEN INCLUDES THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S JUST PUT IN AT THE VERY END OF MESSAGING LANE ON A DEAD END THAT HAS SIX UNITS A DAY, WEEKLY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONE IN DOWN THERE.

SO I'M INCLUDING THOSE SIX, BUT EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS IN SOMETHING NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE MORE THAN ALL OF THOSE 17 UNITS IS MORE THAN HALF OF WILSON LANE.

IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALL OF KREBS LAYING ON THE OTHER SIDE TOWARDS ANYWAY, IT'S HUGE.

IT'S JUST, THE DENSITY IS REALLY INSANE.

UM, AND, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IT'S GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON HER INFRASTRUCTURE OR WATER OR DRAINAGE, THE FLOODING AND EAST BOLDEN CREEK, UM, ELECTRICITY, INTERNET, TRASH EMERGENCY VEHICLES, CERTAINLY NOISE ROAD USE.

I KNOW THAT, UH, THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER THINKS THAT THAT'S A STORY THAT THEY COULD CRAM IN THIS AMOUNT OF HOMES, BUT I'M NOT SURE I DID RUN INTO TROUBLE WITH HERITAGE TREES AND FLOODING.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, THAT'S MY MAIN COMPLAINT IS THE DENSITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGES TO SF SIX, BUT THE DENSITY ON THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS VERY, VERY FRUSTRATING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THEY WILL GIVE THREE MINUTES FOR THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.

SO DO WE HAVE THE LAST SLIDE UP, PLEASE? SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN.

THE VERY LAST ONE THAT'S COMING UP.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS KNOW ABOUT WE, WE HEAR THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, ALL THE CONCERNS THEY HAVE RAISED.

WE BELIEVE THAT SF ZONING PROVIDES THE BEST PROTECTION SETBACK HEIGHT.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE EITHER A 36.

THE HEIGHT THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT IS NOT POSSIBLE UNDER COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, THAT COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS PROVIDES BETTER PROTECTION FOR POLLUTION, UM, DETENTION, TREE PRESERVATION, UM, INGRESS AND EGRESS ONE DRIVEWAY IN AND OUT THE SM THREE PROPERTY.

BY THE WAY, WE DID SUB SUBMIT, UM, A PLAQUE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

A SUBDIVISION PRELIMINARY PLAN WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND THE CASE NUMBER, UH, IS ASSIGNED.

YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE CITIES.

THE GOVERNMENT PORTAL WILL LET THE CASE EXPIRE PENDING THE RESOLUTION OF THIS CASE.

SO THE SF THREE LAYOUT YOU SEE UPDATE IS BASED PRECISELY ON THE NUMBER OF LOSS AND THE ORIENTATION, THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THIS PROJECT PREPARED AND SUBMITTED TO THE CITY THAT THE CASE HAS EXPIRED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RESPOND BACK PENDING THE RESOLUTION OF THIS CASE.

BUT IF THE FIX IS NOW GRANTED, THE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION LAYOUT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

IT'S BEEN DESIGNED BY CIVIL ENGINEERS, THE NUMBER OF BLOCKS, AND, UM, THEY ALL SUBDIVISION, LOTS HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CITY REGULATIONS AND STATE REGULATIONS.

AND THE PLAQUE THAT WAS SUBMITTED, YOU CAN ACHIEVE NINE LOTS FOR A TOTAL OF, UM, UH, 18 UNITS, OR THEY'LL JUST BE 16 UNITS THERE.

THE, UM, CONCERN THAT, UH, REBECCA RAISED REBECCA IN THE COMMON REGARDING CRABS LANE, THE SF ACTUALLY HAS MORE DRIVEWAYS IF SHE WAS TO BUILD ON UP FOR YOU TO HAVE MORE DRIVERS ONTO CLUB'S LANE, WHICH IS CURVED, AS YOU CAN SEE, WELL, THAT'S WHERE THE SFTS COULD HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY IN AND OUT, BUT, UM, AGGRESSIVE, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TALKING WOULD BE ONSITE AS A UNIT WILL HAVE PARKING PARKING GARAGE AND PARKING SPACE.

SO MY, THE SIDE, SO THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED AT THE GATE.

SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ASKED US TO PUT A SHOW ON DATE, ON THE SITE PLAN.

OUR FIRST MEETING WE MET AND I'M TOTALLY WITH ONE OF THEM WOULD ACCEPT JULIA WAS, WAS HOSTING THAT MEETING.

UH, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED AND JUST PROBABLY WELL-INTENDED, I DON'T TOWARDS A BAD IDEA.

THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT BY US HAVING A DATE, WE WOULD PREVENT CUTS OR TRAFFIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO BEN WHITE AND OTHER AREAS.

SO THE NEXT MEETING, WHEN THE NEIGHBORS TOLD US THEY DID NOT WANT TO GATE, WE WOULD REMOVE IT FROM HERE.

WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF HAVING A DATE.

WE ONLY SHOWED IT BECAUSE SOMEONE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED US TO JUST SHOW A GATE.

SO I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

SO, UM, BELIEVE WE'VE, UM, THIS

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SFX ZONING REALLY PROVIDES THE BEST SETBACK, EVEN FOR THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS THAT SF THREE DOES NOT PROVIDE.

SO EVEN IF SOMEONE ELSE WOULD BE SUBDIVIDED INTO THE HOME.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THAT CONCLUDES, UM, OUR SPEAKERS.

AND SO NOW I GUESS, COULD I GET A MOTION TO CLEANSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT.

UH, I GOT A LUNCH, UH, MR. HEMPHILL, IF I DO A SECOND.

OH, WAIT, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

OKAY.

LET'S UH, UH, RIGHT.

UH, SO NOW WE MOVE TO THE ROUND ROBIN, UM, AND, UH, THIS, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE, KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, WE'RE EACH COMMISSIONER, IF THEY WANT TO HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS AND, UH, PROVIDE COMMENTS ON THE CASE.

AND SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? ANYBODY WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED HERE? JUST FOR QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL GO FOR IT.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW, COMING UNDER STATION, BUT, UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT.

I MEAN, LOOKING AT THE SIDE PLAN, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY, UM, AND ALSO DETENTION, UH, AND THAT BEEN ALREADY LOOKED INTO WHETHER IT WOULD SIT AND WOULD IT, WOULD IT START TAKING UP PLACES HAS BEEN LOOKED AT FOR THE ENGINEERING FOR THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UH, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY GETS A ZONING AND ONCE THEY GET IT, THEY'RE GOING TO JUST RUN WITH IT.

UM, WOULD YOU GUYS BE OKAY WITH CONSIDERING A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS? UM, AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE, UM, THE SUBDIVISION PLAN.

I MEAN, UH, MY, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE EXPIRED, I MEAN, HOW LONG AGO IS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHEN WAS IT DONE? I MEAN, REALLY, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION IS SIDEWALKS.

SO THERE'S SIDEWALKS BEING PROVIDED ALONG ALL THE EDGES.

SO JUST FOR A MONITOR COMMISSIONERS, UH LET'S UH, STATE, HERE'S YOUR QUESTION.

SO WHO DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? OKAY.

OH, COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN USE MY FILL ON A COMMISSION.

THAT'S SHARED.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR CIVIL, OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS ON THE OTHER LINE.

HE CAN CERTAINLY RESPOND TO SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

UH, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THE FIVE FRIENDS WE HAVE HERE, YOU SHOULD GO TO BACK TO A SLIDE.

IF YOU WANT TO SHOW SLIDE NUMBER, THE SLIDE.

NUMBER THREE, ONE OR THREE DETENTIONS ARE SHOWN THAT THERE'S A DETENTION POND ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHERE WE JOINED, UM, HOLDEN CREEK.

AND, UH, THE, UM, WERE SHOWN THAT THERE WOULD BE DETENTION PROVIDED UNDER THAT.

SHE WAY UP ON TOP.

YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH, UH, OUR SHARED DETENTION POND DETENTION POND, AND I BELIEVE WE'D HAVE TO COMPLY, HAVE WATER QUALITY ALSO ADDRESSED.

SO I THINK YOU ASKED ABOUT DETENTION FUNDS, UM, YEP.

WATER QUALITY.

OKAY.

THE CITY WATER REQUIRED.

WE HAVE A SLIGHT DROP DETENTION PONDS, AND THEY'RE SHOWN ON THE PLAN.

WHAT ARE QUALITY? I KNOW TYPICALLY FROM EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WATER QUALITY, UH, ASPECTS AND, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW, THE CIVIL ENGINEER THAT MAY SPEAK TO THAT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND THEN EXACTLY.

AND THEN ALSO REGARDING NUMBER OF UNITS IS THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION VALUE YOU CAN CAP, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CONCERN IS GOING TO BE MORE UNITS, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH SF THREE CAN ALLOW, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AWAY.

I'M SURE THE, THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM, CAPPING IT AT WHAT IS SHOWN HERE EITHER 17 UNITS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT PRETTY SURE NEAR WE CAN ACHIEVE.

RIGHT.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YEAH.

AND THAT WAS JUST LOOKING OKAY.

SO SIDEWALKS I SEE ARE THERE.

AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE, UM, IS, IS THERE NO GUEST PARKING PROVIDED? I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

YEAH.

YOU CAN SEE THE PLANT, YOU CAN SEE EACH HOUSE HAS A GARAGE IN THEM AND THEN THEIR FACES ON THE SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE SIDE THERE'S SP UM, FACES POCKETS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I SEE HIM.

OKAY.

WHICH I BE OUT IN EACH NEXT TO EACH FEATURE AND THAT YOU CAN SIT.

YEAH.

YEP.

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YEAH.

I MEAN, LIKE MY CONCERN IS LIKE, IT'S REALLY HAVING, YOU KNOW, ANY CARS SPILLING IN, INTO KREBS AND LESSEN AND ALL THAT, AND SEEMS LIKE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DO HAVE SUFFICIENT GUEST PARKING SPACES.

OKAY.

UM, ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE TYPE OF PAVING? I MEAN, ANYTIME I THINK ABOUT AN S THE SIX OFFICERS KIND OF THINKING ABOUT ANY ADDITIONAL TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, BENEFITS THAT WE CAN GET.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, W W WE DO HAVE SOME PAVING THROUGH THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A LITTLE BIT MORE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF PERVIOUS PAVING AND PAVERS AT CERTAIN AREAS.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT? YEAH.

SO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS THEY'VE ASKED HER WITH SOME TIDBIT THAT, AND THE OUTCOME SAID, YES, DEFINITELY CONSIDER USING A PROGRESS PAYMENTS, WHAT WE CAN.

SO THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO MEETING WE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS WAS A TWO AND A HALF HOUR MEETING, AND THEY RAISED SOME VERY GOOD POINTS ABOUT GREEN ASPECTS THEN.

YES.

OKAY.

AND, UM, THE CONCERN, I HAVE A NUMBER OF UNITS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT CAN BE IN A PRIVATE, RESTRICTED COVENANT INSTEAD OF ANY, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, BUT IT COULD BE, UM, PART OF IT IS, I MEAN, NOT IN A PLANNING COMMISSION, USUALLY WE LIKE CEO'S AND STUFF, BUT IT COULD BE A PRIVATE AGREEMENT.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A COMMENT, BUT, OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

AND THEN MAX, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, CAN I JUMP IN HERE? I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER.

OH, HOLD ON.

NOW WE'RE AT A TIME FOR JIM SHAY.

SO MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL ASK A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN CHIME IN ABOUT.

SO GIVE US A MOMENT AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS EXHIBIT DOWN.

I CAN'T SEE THE COMMISSIONERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, OKAY.

UM, SO WHO'S GOT THE NEXT, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT.

UH, LET'S SEE, I'VE GOT THE RECOGNIZING COMMISSIONER.

SIEGERT, UH, I NEED TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION.

THE COMMISSIONER SHOW STARTED AND COULD GET THE INPUT FROM THE ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

UH, SIR, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME.

THIS IS MARK ZUPAN.

I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

SO YOU GUYS BRING UP A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD QUESTIONS.

UM, SO WE'LL BE SIDEWALKS, THE PAVER.

SO THE FIRE LANE, THE FAR LANE THAT'S GOING THROUGH, WE CAN DO PERVIOUS PAVERS.

THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY TO DO AND TO KEEP SOME GREEN GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THESE, THE, UM, THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND THE FINAL PLAT THAT WE SUBMITTED THAT JUST EXPIRED, I BELIEVE, LESS THAN A MONTH AGO.

SO WE, WE DECIDED TO JUST NOT ADDRESS THE, UH, THE COMMENTS JUST TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S A GOOD TOUCHED UPON THE TWO DETENTION.

SO WE SPLIT, WE SPLIT THE LOT UP INTO TWO DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREAS.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREAS, ONE DRAINAGE AREA.

THERE'S NO IMPERVIOUS COVER.

SO IT'S GREEN, AND IT JUST FLOWS BACK INTO THE, INTO THE CREEK.

THE OTHER TWO, WE'LL SPLIT IT UP AND RELEASE THE, THE FLOW.

THE RE THE RATE OF FLOW RELEASE WILL BE LESS THAN WHAT IT IS EXISTING AS WE SPEAK.

SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY IMPACTS TO THE CREEK.

WON'T HAVE ANY DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS TO ANYONE ELSE.

UM, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ADDED BONUS TO THIS ONE OTHER, SO I KNOW, I KNOW ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID SOMETHING ABOUT AFFECTING THE WATER.

WELL, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE DESIGN OF THIS WATER SYSTEM, WE WILL CONNECT A WATER LINE FROM KREBS TO LESSEN INCREASING THE FLOW ON LESSON LANE FOR BETTER, FOR BETTER PRESSURES.

AND IT JUST, IT MAKES THE SYSTEM ULTIMATELY BETTER.

I HAVE MORE TIME.

I HAVE NOT HEARD THE BUZZER YET.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYONE THAT WILL RESPOND WITH THAT WHOLE , WHICH WOULD INCLUDE C THREE AND TWO.

IS

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THAT ALL PAGE? IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN? THAT'S THE IDEAS, THAT'S THE DRIVEWAYS.

AND THAT COULD BE PERVIOUS PAPERS AS WELL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

OKAY.

YES, MA'AM ALL RIGHT.

WAIT DOWN THE EXHIBIT, PLEASE SEE EVERYONE.

THANK YOU.

SO WHO'S GOT COMMISSIONER HEADPHONES NEXT.

YES.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING THE SITE PLAN.

I'M WONDERING IF, UM, WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT GOING FROM SSP TO SFC ALONG THE THREADS, UM, COMMISSIONER SHAY'S COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

IF THERE WAS DISCUSSION, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR OPENING UP AND LEAVING THESE GREEN SPACES, IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND ACCESS TO THE GREEN SPACE NOW.

AND IF ANY OF THOSE AREAS MIGHT BE COME MORE OF A, A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY PARK OR OPEN SPACE, WHO DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? THE APPLICANT THAT THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

LET CHRIS ANSWER THAT.

WE, UM, ARE EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO OFFER MORE GREEN SPACE, UM, TO THIS COMMUNITY AS SORT OF AN AMENITY AREA, UM, VERSUS THE SF FREE PLAN.

THERE'S JUST, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY KIND OF SHARED AMENITIES.

AND YET THAT THREE PLANS LIKELY EACH LOT WOULD BE FENCED IN.

UM, AND SO, YES, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES MORE OPEN SPACE.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HOW, HOW THAT MIGHT BE MORE SOLIDIFIED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOME OTHER KIND OF METHODS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BE ENSURED THAT THEY HAVE THAT AS A PUNISHMENT? WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PROPER WORK.

INTERESTING, WELL, COMMISSIONERS, CAN I ANSWER THAT SINCE I'M THE ONE WHO GETS TO DEAL WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REGARDING AMBITIONS THAT WE STRIKE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ENDED UP, ENDED UP FAXING, THEY CANNOT BE IN A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

SO, UM, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE MET THE OBVIOUS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WHAT YOU'VE HEARD.

UH, WE FELT LIKE THE S OF SIX PROVIDES BENEFITS BY VIRTUE OF THE, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR DESK, THE LIMITATION OF ALREADY, WHICH MEANS THE YOU TO, UM, HAVING 3,500 SQUARE FEET OF 500 PER DWELLING UNIT.

SO THOSE ARE BUILT IN DENSITY CAP ANYWAY.

SO IT WOULD NOT MATTER WHO BUYS THE PROPERTY, BUT IF WE DON'T DEVELOP IT, THEN YOUR DENSITY IS ALL OF A SUDDEN BE LIMITED AT THAT AT THE 3,500 SQUARE FEET OF DWELLING UNIT, WHICH GIVES YOU THE MAXIMUM YIELD OF 18.

BUT WE HAVE 17, I SWALLOWED THE OPEN SPACE.

I THINK THE OPEN SPACE YOU SAW ON THE PLANET SIDE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S, UM, I TRY TO, IT'S STRUCTURED FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE TO BE USING IT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WHY WITH THE CITY, I'M NOT ONE OF THE TWIN WHEN I'M SO SAD.

HOWEVER, I WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT WE DO HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WHERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS, UM, PARKLAND.

THE, EITHER FEELING BLEW OFF OF SOME OPEN SPACE, AND MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE, OR WE CAN PROBABLY TALK TO THE POSITIVE PARTS AND REGARDING HOW WE SATISFY THE POTS AND REQUIREMENTS.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT, UH, ASPECT.

SO WE CAN EXPLORE THAT TO ADDRESS THE TOP LINE OF COMMENTS FROM STAFF.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, DID THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? OH, RIGHT.

UM, SO I HAVE, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK A FEW HERE ON THIS.

SO I JUST WANNA, ARE YOU GUYS STILL GETTING THE BUZZING WITH JUST ME OR WITH EVERYBODY? ANYBODY WANT IT? MR. ANDERSON? I'M JUST CHECKING.

ARE YOU HEARING IT WITH EVERYBODY

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OR JUST, OKAY.

OKAY.

THIS WAS 10 YEARS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

UM, SO A COUPLE OF POINTS.

UM, I DID HEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PUT IN A GATE, BUT IT'S THIS DRIVEWAY.

UH, IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL STREET THOROUGHFARE, UH, FROM ONE STREET TO ANOTHER.

I MEAN, UH, THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HASN'T REQUIRED.

THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

THIS IS JUST A DRIVEWAY.

IT'S NOT A PUBLIC STREET.

OKAY.

UM, SECONDLY, YES, I KNOW GATES.

NO.

GOOD.

OKAY.

AND THEN ON THE PARTS I DO WANT TO, YOU DID MENTION THE, UH, THIS IS TO, UM, KIND OF RESPOND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT MAY BE GOOD.

IT LOOKS LIKE PARKS WAS RECOMMENDING SOME OF ACTIVITY ALONG THE CREEK THAT YOU COULD, UH, UM, CONTRIBUTE.

SOME OF THAT LAND IS A TRAIL TO, UM, GET FROM ONE STREET TO ANOTHER.

SO I JUST MAKE A COMMENT THAT THAT MAY BE A WAY TO, UH, AS COMMISSIONER HEMPEL SAID, PROVIDE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SOME OF THE TREES AND THE, UH, GREEN SPACE, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS I HAD, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE, YES.

UM, SO WE WOULD BE, WE CAN ENTERTAIN LOOKING AT PUTTING THE, PUTTING UP A PAP IN, THERE'LL BE A DJ PATH BECAUSE ALL THAT, THE MAJORITY OF THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.

SO IF YOU'D LOOK, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT, YOU'LL SEE HOW THE HOUSES ARE STEPPED BACK.

THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A SIGNIFICANT FLOOD, PLAIN, ESPECIALLY WITH ATLAS 14, THAT JUST CAME IN.

SO ATLAS 14 ACTUALLY MADE THIS MORE RESTRICTIVE OF HOW WE COULD DEVELOP IT, BUT THERE IS, THERE IS DEFINITELY A WAY TO PUT EGG IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT WASH IN.

ALSO, I WANTED TO JUST TOUCH ON THE DRIVEWAY.

THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE A FIRE LANE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES FROM PREP TO LESSONS AS WELL.

SO IT WILL BE STRIPED AS NO PARKING.

IT WILL BE STRIPED TO AS A FIRE LANE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, SO THAT, UH, ONE LAST CHANCE FOR ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO, UH, THE DEBATE, SEEING NONE, UH, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE DEBATE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A, A MOTION? LET'S SEE, SEE, SEE A COMMISSIONER SHAKE HIS HAND FIRST.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE, UM, WITH THE ADDITIONAL INCLUSION OF A TRAIL ALONG THAT CREEK AREA.

UM, PER RECOMMENDATION OF, I GUESS YOU SAID, UM, COMMISSIONER CHAIRS SAID LIKE THE, WAS IT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? OKAY.

SO WITH THE ADDITION OF THAT AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT.

OKAY.

DON'T HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE PATRICIA, UH, COMMISSIONER STINKER SECOND IN THAT MOTION.

UH, MR. SHEA DO IS SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I THINK WHAT WAS COMPELLING IN THOSE DIRTY HAD A PRELIMINARY, THE SF THREE WITH THAT MANY NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD GET THERE.

AND I DO THINK THAT SINCE THEY CAN ALREADY GET THAT NUMBER OF UNITS, WHAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE SAME MEMBER UNITS SPENT IN A MUCH MORE ORGANIC WAY THAT WAS, UM, THAT HAD BETTER PROTECTION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE A 25 FOOT BUFFER, SFP FOSTERS, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

UM, I MEAN, WITHOUT THAT, I MEAN, MAKING IT 10 FEET OR FIVE FEET FROM THE NEIGHBORS WITH THIS, THEY GOTTA BE 25 FEET.

THEN IN ADDITION,

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THERE'S ALSO THE CONSENTS OF TRAFFIC.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY DRIVEWAYS COMING ALONG THE STREETS, YOU HAVE BASICALLY EVERYBODY JUST COMING AROUND THE STREET, THE SAME TIME, HUMAN SF, SIX, YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE DRIVEWAY THAT GOES TO THE TWO SIDES.

AND SO IT'S ACTUALLY VERY REGULATED ON HOW CARS ARE, UH, LEAVE THE SITES.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, THE NEIGHBOR TALKED ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE TREE CANOPY AND HOW IT'S THE NICE PARK LIKE, WELL, WITH THIS, I MEAN THE TREE PROTECTION SET UP 19 INCHES.

IT GOES DOWN TO EIGHT INCHES OF TREE PROTECTION.

SO THE PERSON IS GOING TO STAY MORE PARKLAND TO WHAT IT'S BEEN, AND EVEN WALKING DOWN THE STREET OR WITH THE SIDEWALK, RUBY ON SOME PARKWAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A WHOLE BUNCH OF DRIVEWAYS, IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GO HOME FOR IT THAT I FEEL IT'S GOING TO, UM, WITH THE SAME DENSITY, THAT'S THE THREE IT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND TO HELP HER GET READY FOR THE NUMBER, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC VERSUS, UM, EXISTING ZONING.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING IT.

OKAY.

UH, I, UH, JUST GETTING PAID BY, UH, ANDREW AND THE LEGAL TEAM.

WE CANNOT MAKE THE TRAIL A CONDITION OF TELLING YOU THE APPROVALS, SO I'LL PULL UP.

BUT THAT MEANS THAT THAT COULD GO INTO SOME CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

WE'RE GONNA JUST DRAW THAT MOTION.

YEAH.

WE'LL WITHDRAW THAT PART OF IT.

AND, UM, I GUESS JUST TO HAVE A SECOND AGAIN, JUST TO RESTATE THE MOTION.

YEAH.

AND YOU HAVE A SECOND, SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

YEAH.

AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, I WANT THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE WITH THEM.

UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEGER.

UM, BUT SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND COUNT YOUR TIME NAMED HER CONDITIONERS.

SAY, DO WE HAVE ANY ONE AGAINST THE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE MOTION, ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST? OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? UH, UH, COMMISSIONER'S SECRET TO HIM SPEAK IN FAVOR.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AS TO WHY.

UM, I SECOND THE MOTION, CAUSE TYPICALLY I DO NOT GO ALONG WITH BSF TO EXIT SIX WALKING AFTER THIS IS SIGN AND THE FACT THAT WE, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGE REALLY IN DENSITY.

I THINK CHANGE IS, IS THE USE OF THE LAND AND THE SIGN AND HOW, WHAT WILL NOT BE 10 CURB CUTS.

THERE WILL NOT BE ALL OF THE SPECIAL LITTLE, LOTS THAT COULD BE FENCED, BUT I'M HOPING THEY'RE NOT GOING PARENTS.

THIS CONDO, THE WAY IT'S SET UP.

IT JUST INVITES THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN, UH, DRIVEWAYS THAT REALLY FENCE YOU OFF THE COMPATIBILITY IS A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE GIVES THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS MORE PROTECTION FROM THE ENCROACHING DEVELOPMENT.

AND I JUST LIKED THE DESIGN AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL STICK TO THEIR SITE PLAN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, UH, ANOTHER CHANCE FOR ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS AGAINST ONE MORE THOUGHT FOR ANY ONE THAT WANTS