* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SHALL WE BEGIN. [00:00:06] I'D TAKE THAT AS A YES. WELCOME [CALL TO ORDER] TO THE SEPTEMBER 28, 2020 MEETING OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. I'LL CALL THE ROLE IS HERE. OKAY. SOMEBODY IS MAKING A LOT OF BACKGROUND NOISE. UM, THAT VILLAIN SWALE IS NOT GOING TO BE WITH US, UH, WITH FEATHERSTON BEN-HAIM SETH BEN. BEN. BEN IS HERE. MATTHEW IS HERE. KEVIN COOK KELLY LITTLE HERE. TREY MCWHORTER HERE. TERRY MYERS HERE, ALEX POPOVA VASILIY. YOU WILL NOT BE WITH US TONIGHT AND BLAKE, TILL THAT THEY LIKE IS HERE. OKAY. UM, FIRST OFF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS AND UPDATE ON THE CITY DEPARTMENT, MERGER OF HOUSING AND PLANNING. THE SPEAKER IS ROSIE TRUELOVE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA, UM, HAVE AN UPDATE ON ACHIEVING GREATER EQUITY AND ACCESS TO FUNDS, UM, WITH MARGIE REESE. SO MS. CHULA, ARE YOU [2A. Update on city department merger of Housing and Planning] READY TO GO? I SURE AM. I DO HAVE A LITTLE SHORT PRESENTATION PREPARED. UH, I THINK ELIZABETH WILL PROBABLY BE TRYING TO GET THAT HOLD UP HERE. UM, BUT WHILE SHE'S WORKING ON THAT, UM, LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS ROSIE TRUELOVE. I AM CURRENTLY THE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND IN ABOUT THREE DAYS WE BECOME, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND PLANNING. AND I WILL BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND PLANNING. I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR ABOUT 23 YEARS NOW. UM, AND I'VE BEEN THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT FOUR AND SOME CHANGE YEARS. UH, PREVIOUS TO THAT, I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY'S CAPITAL CONTRACTING OFFICE, UH, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT OVERSEES THIS PROCUREMENT PROGRAM, EXCUSE ME, PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACTING PROGRAM FOR THE CITY'S CAPITAL PROGRAM. AND I'VE WORKED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND I'VE WORKED IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS AND A WHOLE HOST OF FUN THINGS IN MY 23 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, UM, THE NEW HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AFTER. I JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH A SUPER SHORT PRESENTATION TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT, WHAT THINGS ARE KIND OF LOOKING LIKE FOR THE NEW DEPARTMENT. SO THIS IS TRULY A MERGER OF TWO DEPARTMENTS. THERE ARE NO PROGRAMS OR SERVICES THAT ARE BEING CUT. UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, UH, OF COURSE CONTAINING URBAN DESIGN, LONG RANGE PLANNING TO INCLUDE SMALL AREA PLANS. IMAGINE AUSTIN, IMAGINE AUSTIN AND A DEMOGRAPHY, UH, AND OUR CURRENT PLANNING, WHICH IS ZONING CASE MANAGEMENT, ANNEXATION, AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AS WELL AS SUPPORT SERVICES AND NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE A GROUP THAT WORKS ON REAL ESTATE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, A GROUP THAT WORKS ON HOUSING DIFF EXCUSE ME, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, ASSISTANCE SERVICES, UM, CLIENT SERVICES, WHICH IS WHERE ALL OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT HELP INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS IN AUSTIN IS BASED, UH, FEDERAL REGULATORY WORK, UM, POLICY PLANNING AND RESEARCH, UH, COMMUNICATIONS, AND OF COURSE SUPPORT SERVICES. CAN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? SO OUR BUDGET, INCLUDING ALL FUNDS IS ABOUT 108 MILLION. THAT INCLUDES OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND PROGRAM, WHICH IS DEPLOYED THROUGH OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE AND, UH, AND CLIENT SERVICES TEAM. UH, WE HAVE SOME HOMELESSNESS SERVICES WE HAVE, UM, THAT INCLUDES OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND TRANSFER, UM, TENANT STABILIZATION AND ALL OF OUR LOCAL AND FEDERAL FUNDS. WE GET ABOUT 10 MILLION, $12 MILLION A YEAR. TYPICALLY IN FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT FUNDS IN THE FORM OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS, UM, THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP GRANT, UM, THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT, WHICH IS DEPLOYED THROUGH OUR PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, FOR SERVICES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND OUR HOPWOOD GRANT, WHICH IS HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH AIDS ALSO DEPLOYED [00:05:01] THROUGH OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ARE THE PRIMARY RECEIPT INTO THE SYSTEM, THE CITY SYSTEM FOR ALL OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT COME FROM, UH, HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE FEDERAL BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT THERE, UH, WE HAVE 120 EMPLOYEES ROUGHLY BROKEN DOWN. UM, ALTHOUGH I THINK THESE, THESE BREAKOUTS ARE PROBABLY SLIGHTLY SHIFTED, BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT. UM, AND I CAN ALWAYS PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. UH, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS WHERE I'LL SPEND MOST APPOINT TIME TALKING TO YOU TONIGHT. AND THIS REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW WE'RE BREAKING DOWN THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAVE, UM, A TEAM WITHIN THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS, UH, CHARGED WITH DOING ALL OF THE FUN THINGS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT, UH, LIKE HUMAN RESOURCES AND COMMUNICATIONS AND ALL OF THE REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS WE HAVE WITH COUNSEL AND WITH FOLKS LIKE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UH, ALL OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AREN'T NECESSARILY STAFFED OUT OF THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, BUT WE DO HAVE STRATEGIC OVERSIGHT THERE. AND WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL COMMITTEES THAT WE DO STAFF OUT OF THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, WHICH IS, UM, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE AND THE REGIONAL AFFORDABILITY COMMITTEE. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR COVID-19 RESPONSE PLANNING HAPPENING OUT OF THE OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR, PLUS, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS PROCESS DATA, IT SUPPORT DEMOGRAPHY, ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF CORPORATE DATA INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE RECORDS, MANAGEMENT FACILITIES, TIMEKEEPING, ALL STUFF THAT PROBABLY MATTERS LESS TO YOU GUYS, AND IS ALL REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AT THE CITY AS WE GO THROUGH OUR DAY TO DAY, OUR ZONING AND URBAN DESIGN GROUP, UH, IS WHERE HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONTINUES TO LIVE. AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES ZONING CASE MANAGEMENT, URBAN DESIGN, GREAT STREETS AND ANNEXATIONS. OUR INCLUSIVE PLANNING GROUP IS WHERE THE BULK OF OUR PLANNERS WILL BE, UH, INCLUDING IMAGINE AUSTIN POLICY PLANNING AND RESEARCH, WHICH HAS BEEN MORE ON THE HOUSING FRONT, BUT WILL NOW BE EXPANDED. UH, SMALL AREA PLANS IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEAM WILL BE RESIDING IN THAT, UH, BRANCH OF OUR FAMILY TREE. THE MIDDLE COLUMN IS A NEW TEAM THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO CREATE WITH THE MERGER OF THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS. AND THAT IS A GROUP THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IN THE HOUSING WORLD, WE HAVE LONG BEEN LOOKING TO STAFF UP AND BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO COMMUNITY CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, WE HAVE PROGRAMS IN THERE TO, UM, PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GETTING DISPLACED AND CONDUCT OUTREACH THERE, UH, PROGRAMS TO, TO REALLY WORK ON COMMUNITY PRESERVATION, UH, TO HELP WITH GENTRIFICATION MITIGATION AND TO STABILIZE TENANTS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY IN AUSTIN AND STAY STABLE HOUSED. THIS GROUP IS GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH WORKING ACROSS EVERYONE ON THE ORG CHART, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED ULTIMATELY WITH WORKING WITH PROGRAMS ALL ACROSS THE CITY OF AUSTIN, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IS MINDFUL OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF DISPLACEMENT THAT THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THIS GROUP WAS PUT TOGETHER WITH, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE MERGER OF THESE TWO DEPARTMENTS, WE HAD ONE STAFF PERSON ASSIGNED, UM, OR HER NAME HAS NEVER TD JACKMAN. YOU MAY KNOW HER. UM, AND THEN RECENTLY WE HIRED A COUPLE OF TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES TO HELP US WITH SOME CORONAVIRUS RELIEF, UM, PROGRAM ASSISTANCE. WE HAVE ABOUT A $12 MILLION EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING TO QUICKLY EXPEND DOLLARS ON. SO WE BROUGHT IN SOME TEMPORARY STAFFING TO HELP US WITH THAT. AND WE ALSO BOLSTERED THE TEAM HERE BY BRINGING IN FOLKS FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, TEAMS ALREADY IN BOTH PLANNING AND IN HOUSING. SO WE'RE ABLE TO, TO COMPRISE A TEAM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE, UM, IT INCLUDES CARA BERTRAND FROM, UM, FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. UH, RACHEL TEMPER, UH, A CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR, UH, FROM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, UM, PLUS OUR TWO TEMPORARIES. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM MANAGER. THAT'S GOING TO BE A VACANCY THAT WE HOPE TO FILL AGAIN, ALL WITH THE GOAL OF UTILIZING OUR EXISTING TOOLS, UM, AND, AND REALLY BEING, CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE ARE VERY MINDFUL AS A CITY OF AUSTIN ABOUT DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION AND KEEPING FOLKS IN AUSTIN WHO WANT TO STAY IN AUSTIN. OUR FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION GROUP IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. UH, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR, OUR BUDGETING AND CONTRACTING AND OUR AUDITING AND MONITORING BECAUSE WE HAVE X WHERE OUR FEDERAL REGULATORY ADMINISTRATION DIVISION IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE GET IN INTO THE CITY. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT TEAM THAT WORKS [00:10:01] TO ENSURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING DEPLOYED APPROPRIATELY. AND SO YOU'LL SEE PROBABLY A HEAVIER, UM, FINANCE TEAM THAN WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE OR, OR IN A DEPARTMENT SIMILARLY SIZED. BUT WE HAVE OUR, OUR FINANCES ARE VERY COMPLEX. WE ALSO, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, WHICH IS THE NONPROFIT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ARM OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT HAS A COMPLETE SEPARATE SET OF ACCOUNTING, UM, AND, AND TRANSACTIONS AS A, AS A DIFFERENT LEGAL ENTITY, THEN THE CITY OF BOSTON. AND THEN THE LAST GROUP IS OUR PROGRAM DELIVERING REAL ESTATE SERVICES GROUP. UH, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE ALL OF OUR PROGRAM DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION, UH, CLIENT SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION AGAIN, WHERE ARE REALLY INDIVIDUALIZED, DIRECT HOUSING ASSISTANCE HAPPENS IN THE FORM OF DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE OR OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. UM, OUR HOMELESS SERVICES STAFF WORK IN THIS GROUP. UM, OUR AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION ASSETS ARE MANAGED OUT OF THIS GROUP. AND ANY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE FORMED FOR SPECIFIC AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE MANAGED OUT OF THIS GROUP. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WHICH IS HOW WE DEPLOY THE BULK OF THE $250 MILLION AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND, UM, IS ADMINISTERED OUT OF THIS GROUP. SO THAT'S KIND OF A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT LOOKS LIKE. I AM READY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I KNOW THERE WAS JUST A REQUEST FOR US TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING. SO HERE'S A BRIEFING, AND NOW HERE'S THE FUN STUFF WHERE I GET TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. I SEE. BEN HAS HIS HAND UP. YOU CAN TAKE MAYBE THE PRESENTATION OFF ELIZABETH. I DON'T THINK WE NEED IT ANYMORE. THANK YOU. WELL, ROSIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND CONGRATULATIONS ON TAKING ON A NEW ASSIGNMENT. I THINK YOU MAY, YOU MAY NOT BE FEELING THAT WAY AT A COUPLE OF MONTHS, BUT YEAH, IT'S ALL RELATIVE, BUT I'M ALWAYS, I'M ALWAYS EXCITED FOR NEW CHALLENGES. WELL, AND I THINK THAT THIS OPENS UP NEW OPPORTUNITIES. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. THE ONE THING THAT I'M NOTICING, AND PLEASE CLARIFY A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUES FOR YOU. I SEE YOUR ZONING AND ZONING CASE MANAGEMENTS. THERE ARE BUILDING PERMITS IN THIS SAME DEPARTMENT. NO, THAT IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. OKAY. SO LET, LET ME JUST GIVE YOU TWO AREAS THAT HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN VERY BIG PROBLEMS FOR US. AND ONE OF THEM IS THE CROSS-DEPARTMENT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PERMITTING AND CATCHING THE, UH, AND APPROPRIATELY, I SHOULD SAY, NOT JUST CATCHING, BUT APPROPRIATELY DEALING WITH PROPERTIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE OF INTEREST TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I'M JUST TAKING SOME NOTES. SO YOU'LL SEE ME. IT, IT, IT, IT, IT HAS WORKED SMOOTHLY FROM EVERYTHING WE CAN TELL RECENTLY, BUT I CAN TELL YOU HISTORICALLY, THAT HAS BEEN A BIG HANGUP WHERE THE TWO DEPARTMENTS DON'T CONNECT AND PERMITS GET ISSUED AND PROMISES OR COMMITMENTS ARE BEING MADE WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE CRITERIA THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND HAVE TO BE, UM, THAT FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, IF YOU WILL, WHEN THE PERMITS COME IN. UH, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY, THE OTHER AREA WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME VERY BIG FRUSTRATION IS WE FELT WE WERE DOING CATCH UP WITH THE CODE NEXT TEAM TO THE POINT WHERE NOT ONLY WERE SOME OF THE ISSUES ABOUT PRESERVATION AND THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UH, SOMEHOW SIDELINED RATHER EARLY, UH, WHETHER THAT WAS CONSCIOUS OR JUST BY NEGLECT. WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WHEN WE STARTED TO DO CATCH UP, UH, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS USING THE TERMINOLOGY NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION FOR A PROGRAM THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION, WE BANG ON THAT DRUM, BUT IT WAS VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS AND NOBODY WAS LISTENING. AND SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN OUR PROGRAM, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH PRESERVATION AND DOES DEAL WITH HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THOSE SAME TERMS ARE BEING USED FOR A PROGRAM WHERE THE MAJORITY OF A BUILDING WOULD BE TORN DOWN AND STILL CONSIDERED TO BE PRESERVATION. I THINK IT WAS JUST A MESS, A MISHMASH OF TERMS, BUT IT WAS MORE SYMPTOMATIC OF THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THIS WHOLE PROGRAM AND THE COMMISSION AND ITS RESOURCES AND THE PLANNING. SO I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE STILL DISCONNECTED FROM PERMITTING. THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE. YOU'LL HAVE TO REACH OVER TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN CONTROL AND MAYBE SOFTEN SOME OF THAT SILOING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON THAT IN PARTICULAR WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I SEE AS A REAL BENEFIT. UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL SPEAK ABOUT IT FROM THE, FROM THE TR THE, THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OUR OWN INTERACTIONS WITH, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU KNOW, FOR FOREVER, RIGHT? UH, ON ALL THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BE A PUD COMING FORWARD OR ANYTHING REALLY THAT, THAT MIGHT TOUCH HOUSING PRODUCTION OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REMAP AND RETHINK [00:15:01] HOW WE DO THINGS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS THAT WE NEED TO BE. UM, SO I'M SEEING THAT AS A REAL BENEFIT, NOT JUST FROM THE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TEAM IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING A MOMENT, RIGHT, WHERE WE'RE COMING TOGETHER IN A NEW DEPARTMENT, AND THIS IS GONNA ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY RETHINK HOW WE DO THINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS IN, IN THE BEST WAY MEETING, NOT THE RIGHT, MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT WAY. CAUSE THAT WOULD IMPLY WE'RE DOING IT WRONG RIGHT NOW, WHICH WE AREN'T NECESSARILY DOING THINGS WRONG, BUT ARE WE DOING IT IN THE MOST INCLUSIVE WAY? ARE WE DOING IT IN THE SMARTEST WAY? UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE OTHER PROCESSES THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HEARING ALL THE VOICES THAT NEED TO BE HEARD ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO? SO IT'S, THERE WILL BE ASPECTS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE ROCKY. RIGHT. UM, AND I THINK YOU HIT ON A GREAT ONE. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE RELYING ON COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. UM, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT THAT WILL BE ABLE TO, TO GET THERE. I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, JUST A PHILOSOPHICAL NOTE ABOUT THE SILOING. I KNOW WE NEED MORE CONNECTION WITH THE INTAKE AND PERMITTING ON THE NITTY GRITTY SIDE, BUT ON THE INCLUSIVE PLANNING, UH, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE ISN'T, I THINK MAYBE HISTORICALLY IT'S SEEN AS, UM, WE'RE JUST KINDA SITTING AND SEE, SEE WHAT HITS THE HOOK, YOU KNOW, KIND OF RESPONDING TO APPLICATIONS FOR LANDMARK OR APPLICATIONS FOR DISTRICTS OR SOMEONE WANTS TO TEAR A BUILDING DOWN. AND WE REALLY, HADN'T BEEN VERY PROACTIVE. I DON'T THINK AS PROACTIVE AS WE COULD BE. AND I KNOW THERE'S LOTS OF CROSS-REFERENCING GOING ON HERE, BUT I REALLY HOPE THAT PRESERVATION BECOMES MORE PART OF THE PROACTIVE PLANNING EFFORTS IN THE CITY. AND THAT WE THINK ABOUT THAT ALONG WITH THE MANY OTHER THINGS I KNOW THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE, BUT JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND DEFINITELY NOT OUT OF LINE WITH WHERE I'M WORTH, WHERE I'M HOPING THAT WE GO, UM, I COULD HAVE SLOTTED HISTORIC PRESERVATION INTO PROBABLY THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT. I MEAN, YOU COULD THOUGH IT, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UM, THEY CAN FIT UNDER CURRENT PLANNING. THEY CAN FIT UNDER INCLUSIVE PLAN. THEY CAN FIT UNDER DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION AND I COULD PROBABLY ARGUE THAT THEY WOULD FIT UNDER PROGRAMS. UM, AND SO LONG TERM PLANNING. PARDON? YES. AND SO THEY'RE THERE WHILE WE STILL HAVE THEM IN, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE KEEPING THE SAME MAIN ALIGNMENT, UM, THAT WE'VE HAD TRADITIONALLY, BUT THAT'S OF WHAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AS WE HAVE OUR MOMENT AND THINK ABOUT THINGS IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT REALLY IS THE ALIGNMENT THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THE LONGEST TERM. AND I'M OPEN TO CHANGE AS I'VE ALREADY KIND OF SHAKEN UP THE GROUP BY, BY PULLING AT LEAST ONE STAFF MEMBER OUT OF THERE. UM, AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SHAKING UP THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF SHAKING THEM UP, BUT IF WE NEED TO SHAKE THINGS UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THEN, THEN I'M OPEN TO THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. AND CAN YOU SPEAK, I'M ASSUMING YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT BERTRAM AND CAN YOU DESCRIBE EXACTLY WHAT TIME OH, SHE'S, SHE'S JUST, INSTEAD OF HAVING HER, HER BASE REPORTING STRUCTURE AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TEAM, HER BASE REPORTING STRUCTURE IS IN THE DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION TEAM TO HELP INCREASE THE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THOSE TWO GROUPS. A LOT OF THE WORK THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING, UM, HER PARTICULARLY, AND I'M SURE ELIZABETH COULD SPEAK TO THIS TOO, REALLY TIES NICELY INTO THE WORK THAT, AND THE DIRECTION THAT I'M HOPING THAT TEAM WILL GO. UH, AND SO AS WE'RE, IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT AS WE FORMULATE THIS, THIS NEW DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION TEAM AND GET IT STAFFED UP AND GET IT KIND OF INSTITUTIONALIZED THAT WE, WE PUT SOME REALLY EXCELLENT TALENT THERE, UM, THAT HAVE A PASSION FOR THE MISSION OF THAT, OF THAT TEAM. AND CARA WON ME OVER ON THAT FRONT IMMEDIATELY. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WAS TRYING TO, BUT SHE DID. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. I SEE THAT IT WAS UNDER THE DISPLACEMENT. YOU HAVE DISPLACED OUR STAFF MEMBER AND WE WOULD HATE TO SEE HER, UH, REALLY GONE FROM US. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A LIAISON BETWEEN PRESERVATION. YEAH. YEAH. SO SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN AND SHE'LL STILL HAVE BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TEAM AND PROBABLY WILL ACTUALLY PROBABLY CARRY SOME OF HER WORK WITH HER THAT SHE HAS BEEN DOING. UM, WE'RE WORKING ON ALL THOSE KINDS OF DETAILS IN THE FIRST PART OF, OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. UM, THE IDEA IS NOT TO ABANDON OR ORPHAN ANYONE, BUT REALLY TO BRING THAT STRONG EXPERTISE INTO THE DISPLACEMENT PREVENTION GROUP. SO WE CAN GET THAT, THAT, THAT TEAM SOLIDLY ESTABLISHED [00:20:04] THAT'S TRUE. LOVE ARE, DID I, DO I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY THAT YOU'RE MOVING OFFICES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, OFFICE TO THE FORMER, UH, HIGHLAND MALL? NO THERE, SO BEFORE WE, UM, BEFORE WE ANNOUNCED THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS MERGER, THERE WAS, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF PLANNING AND ZONING. THE OLD DEPARTMENT WAS SLATED TO MOVE INTO THE NEW HIGHLAND, THE NEW PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT HIGHLAND MALL. UM, BUT WITH THE, WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THIS MERGER, THEY'RE ACTUALLY, THEY WILL STILL MOVE, BUT NOT TO THERE THERE'LL BE MOVING OVER, UM, ULTIMATELY TO THE ST JONES BUILDING, WHICH IS OVER JUST, YOU KNOW, ON EAST 11TH STREET AT 11TH AND CURVE, UM, JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, BASICALLY FROM EBENEEZER BAPTIST UP THE HILL UP WIND OR DOWNWIND, DEPENDING ON I CAN SMELL FRANKLINS FROM MY OFFICE SOME DAYS. SO, UH, WE'LL BE OVER ON ALTOGETHER, ULTIMATELY OVER ON EAST 11TH STREET. SO IT'S STILL MOVING OUT OF ONE TEXAS CENTER JUST, AND PROBABLY ON A DIFFERENT TIMELINE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, WORK ON SOME, SOME RECONFIGURATION OF THE ST JOHN'S BUILDING AND, UM, AND REALLY WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE CONTINUING TO TELEWORK PROBABLY THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. SOME FOLKS WHO WILL START COMING BACK SOONER, BUT SOLIDLY THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MS. TRULLO? I GUESS I, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JUST SORT OF REITERATE OUR CONCERNS THAT, UM, THAT COMMISSIONER COOK BROUGHT UP AND COMMISSIONER HEIM SAYS THAT PRESERVATION IS NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT HISTORY. DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD THINK OF THAT AS IN THE PAST, WE FEEL THAT PRESERVATION IS PROGRESS AND THAT PRESERVATION SHOULD BE, UM, AT THE FOREFRONT OF PLANNING ENDEAVORS FOR THE SETTING. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE. ANY FINAL WORDS, MR. LOPEZ? NO, I MEAN, I, I REALLY, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR INVITING ME TODAY AND FOR LETTING ME GO FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA AND ALLOWS ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL MAKE DINNER FOR THE BOYS. UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN BY SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M SURE THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME THAT YOU'LL SEE MY FACE OR THAT WE'LL BE CHATTING. UM, AND IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME. I COULD HAVE PUT MY INFORMATION ON THE SLIDE, BUT, UM, IT DIDN'T SOUND FAR FOR THAT. UH, BUT, UM, ALL ELIZABETH KNOWS HOW TO GET TO ME AND, UH, I'M IN THE CITY SYSTEM. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UM, OUR [2B. Update on achieving greater equity and access to HOT funding] NEXT PRESENTATION IS FROM, UM, IS AN UPDATE ON ACHIEVING GREATER EQUITY AND ACCESS TO HOT FUNDING BY MARGIE REESE MKR CONSULTING GROUP IS MS. REESE HERE. UM, MR. FEATHERSTONE, THE MINUTES AND GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE WE DOING THAT AFTER THE PRESENT? WE'RE DOING THAT AFTER THE, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY HAD ASKED TO GO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. WELL, THE MINUTES WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS THEM. I'M SORRY. DID WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION? YES, THIS IS MARGIE REESE. I'M ON THE PHONE. I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT HAPPY TO MEET ALL OF YOU VIRTUALLY. UM, I'M MARGIE REESE, I'M THE ART MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THE THREE DIVISIONS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND AUSTIN. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT THAT WORK IS LOOKING LIKE. UM, AND, UH, HI GUESTS EARLY, [00:25:01] UH, 2019, UH, WE STARTED TALKING WITH, UH, THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION ABOUT REIMAGINING THE USE OF THEIR HOT TAX FUNDS. AND SO WE SPENT ABOUT A YEAR WORKING WITH THAT, UH, DIVISION ALONE AND, UM, IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2020, UH, WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO INCLUDE, UM, THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, AS WELL AS HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION IN THAT WORK ASSESSING PRIMARILY, UH, THE GRANT MAKING PROGRAMS, THE FUNDING PROGRAMS AND HOW THE THREE DIVISIONS MIGHT WORK BETTER, MORE COHESIVELY, UM, IN DESIGNING THEIR FUNDING PROGRAM. AND WE WERE ASKED TO DO THIS WORK, UH, THROUGH THE LENS OF RACIAL EQUITY, UH, USING THE DEFINITION THAT HAS BEEN CREATED BY THE CITY'S, UM, DIVERSITY OFFICE. AND IN THINKING ABOUT HOW THOSE FUNDS MIGHT BE DISTRIBUTED, MORE EQUITABLY, HOW WE LOOK AT THE INTERNAL SYSTEMS OF EACH DEPARTMENT, WHERE THERE WERE REDUNDANCIES, HOW MUCH BUREAUCRACY IS TOO MUCH BUREAUCRACY AND HOW MUCH BUREAUCRACY MUST BE MAINTAINED IN ORDER TO, UH, PROVIDE SYSTEMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, WE STARTED OUT, AS I SAID, DOING A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONVERSATIONS, PRIMARILY WITH ARTISTS AND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY, JUST TO GET A PULSE OF HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCESS CITY GRANT FUNDS. UM, AND THEN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS BEEN HAVING THOSE SAME KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, AND THEN THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES UNDER THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, ARM, AS WELL AS NOW LOOKING AT THE HERITAGE TOURISM DIVISION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR WORK AS THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND HOW THAT WORK ALIGNS WITH, UH, THE HERITAGE TOURISM ASPECT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. AND WHAT WE FOUND IS, UH, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, STRENGTHENING CITY PROCESSES, UH, LOTS OF INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, INDICATING SOME OUT MIGRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN ARTISTS, UH, LATINO ARTISTS, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HELPED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE VIBRANCY OF THE CITY, AFRICAN AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND CULTURAL CENTERS, LATINO CENTERS, ASIAN CENTERS, ET CETERA. AND SO IT WAS A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS HAVE BEEN SYNTHESIZING ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING, UM, TO COME UP WITH A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE ALWAYS START PRESENTING TO THE PUBLIC ON OCTOBER 7TH. UM, WE'VE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH MELISSA AND HER TEAM, SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, AND THEN MORE RECENTLY A CONVERSATION WITH A STAFF, UH, THAT WORKS, UH, WITH YOUR COMMISSION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES OF WHAT, UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOUR BODY IS, UM, IS CHARGED WITH PROTECTING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, THE CULTURAL TRADITIONS, INSTEAD OF THOSE, UM, TANGIBLE AND INTANGIBLE CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT YOU ARE WORKING ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PRESERVE. AND SO THE THREE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WILL BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC THEY'RE HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SYSTEMS PRIMARILY HOW TO BETTER SERVE, UM, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR COMMUNITIES, UM, FOR WHOM ENGLISH IS NOT THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE, HOW WE KEEP YOUNG PEOPLE ENGAGED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE CULTURAL SYSTEM, FROM CREATING NEW PRODUCTS TO PRESERVING AND PROTECTING, UH, LEGACIES THAT ARE EXISTING IN AUSTIN. THIS IS NO SMALL TASK, UH, AS WE TRY TO SERVE THREE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS ALL UNDER THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX UMBRELLA. SO WE'RE WANTING TO BRING MORE CLARITY TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS BASED ON STATE LAW AND BASED ON AUSTIN CITY ATTORNEYS, OUR INTERPRETATION OF THAT LAW, HOW YOU CAN, HOW WE MIGHT REDEFINE, UM, THE ROLE OF THE PANELS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THESE CONTRACTS AND APPLICATIONS AND WHO SITS ON THOSE PANELS, HOW ARE THEY PREPARED TO RESPOND TO THE [00:30:01] MULTIPLE VIEWPOINTS, UM, OF AUSTIN COMMUNITY? SO THIS KIND OF WORK IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. HADN'T BEEN HAPPENING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT HAS, IT BRINGS US A HEIGHTENED SENSE OF AWARENESS RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GUIDE THE CONVERSATION AWAY FROM MAKING ABRUPT JERK SORT OF CHANGES, UM, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW DO WE EMBED BETTER PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE THREE DIVISIONS, HOW WE REPORT THAT WORK BACK TO YOU AS COMMISSIONED MEMBERS, INTERESTED IN A LOT OF THIS WORK, UM, AND HOW WE BRING THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MEET THEIR GOALS FOR CHEESING RACIAL EQUITY. SO MY TEAM AND I HAVE BEEN ON THE GROUND FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW, WE'RE WORKING IN MORE VIRTUAL SPACES AND THE FIRST, UH, VIRTUAL COMMUNICATION BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WILL HAPPEN ON OCTOBER 7TH. AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE TIME AND THE LINKS AND ALL OF THAT TO, TO LISTEN IN TO THAT CONVERSATION, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. SO BIG PICTURE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO. UM, SO WE'RE WORKING ON A VERY RAPID PACE OF WORKING WITH THREE DIFFERENT DIVISIONS, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S OFFICE OF DESIGN AND DELIVERY AFTER ADD THE CD ACRONYM IN ORDER TO SEE IT RIGHT. UM, JUST TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SIMPLIFYING A LOT OF THE CITY, UM, PROCESSES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH RISK MANAGEMENT AND INSURANCE AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, SO OPEN TO, UM, ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH WELCOME MELISSA, IF I MISSED, UH, ANY, ANYTHING, BUT REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE PRESERVATION OFFICE, UM, THE LANDMARKS COMMISSION STAFF, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, UM, POLICIES ARE MADE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND POLICIES ABOUT WHOSE HISTORY WE'RE PROTECTING, HOW WE'RE SHARING THE VALUE OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND LANDMARKS WITH THE PUBLIC WITH NEW RESIDENTS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE OF PRESERVING THE HERITAGE OF THE CITY. SO WE'RE TAKING OUR TIME AND LEARNING A GREAT DEAL, UM, AND JUST EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS QUICK OVERVIEW, UM, WITH YOU ABOUT THE ROLE THAT ARTS AND CULTURE IS PLAYING AND HOW, UH, THE CITY'S JOURNEY TOWARD EQUITY IS BEGINNING TAKE SHAPE. I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MYSELF, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M MY LONGTIME ARTS ADMINISTRATOR. I'VE RUN THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS FOR THE CITIES OF DALLAS AND LOS ANGELES. AND ACTUALLY IN LOS ANGELES HAD A REALLY GREAT, UM, LEARNING OPPORTUNITY, UH, BECAUSE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WAS A PART OF, UH, THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS AT THE TIME, UH, AND, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION ARCHITECTS, UM, AND IN BRINGING, UM, THE COMMUNITIES INTEREST TO THE TABLE AND AT THE SAME TIME SORT OF BALANCING, UH, BALANCING THE, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESERVING A LANDMARK. SO I'M INTERESTED IN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND JUST WANTING TO SAY WHERE WE'RE ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK IN AUSTIN, PROBABLY, UH, THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR, AND WE'LL BE FORTHCOMING WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN ULTIMATELY I SET UP IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, UH, TO INVOLVE THE GREATER COMMUNITY AND ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT ARTS AND CULTURE AND HERITAGE. THAT'S MY STORY. SORRY, I CAN'T SEE YOU. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE MS. THIS IS TERRY MYERS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS CAN, THIS COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO FINDING EQUITY AND TELLING THE STORY OF ALL PEOPLE WHO WORKED TOGETHER AND CREATED THE CITY THAT WE KNOW AND LOVE. AND WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN, UM, IN GOING FORWARD THAT WE NO LONGER, UM, SEE PRESERVATION AS A SORT OF ELITIST ACTIVITY OR ENDEAVOR, BUT THAT WE WANT TO, UM, REACH OUT AND RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO IN THE PAST MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, UNDER REPRESENTED IN PRESERVATION. [00:35:01] AND WE'RE JUST, I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE ON BOARD AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP. I'M SURE THAT WE WILL BE EAGER TO DO THAT FOR THE LAST SMALLEST ALVARADO THAT'S SERVING ON THE HERITAGE GRANT PANEL AND THAT PANEL, I'VE SEEN IT IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEED OUT THERE AND, AND HIS SISTERS ARE NOT BEING THERE. THEY'RE OFTEN NOT THE PEOPLE BEST EQUIPPED TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. WELL, IT'S ALWAYS ENCOURAGED US TO LOOK PAST THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. IF I THINK YOUR WORK IS GOING TO BE REALLY VALUABLE AND HELP GET THE CITY'S FUNDING FOR IT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION FOR MISERIES? I'D JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THAT WE, UM, PLEASE CALL ON US IF WE CAN, UM, BE PART OF, OF YOUR MISSION HERE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS TIME IT'S BEEN WITH YOU, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE. SO AS WE COME BACK WITH SOME POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE GET YOUR OPINIONS AND FEEDBACK ON THOSE THINGS AND KEEP YOU POSTED BECAUSE IT IS ALSO YOUR EXPERTISE. THAT'LL MAKE THIS PROCESS WORK. SO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE READY TO GO ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK EMILY REED FOR HER SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION. LAST MONTH, WHEN WE HAD ELECTION OF NEW OFFICERS, I THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST STEPPING DOWN, UM, TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH HER FAMILY AND HER WORK, WHICH IS I'M SURE, UM, MORE WAY MORE THAN FULL TIME, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE'S ACTUALLY ABANDONING US. AND, UH, I WANTED, I WANTED TO JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YOU HAVE BEEN, UH, SOMETIMES THE VOICE OF REASON BETWEEN, UM, OFTEN OPPOSING SENTIMENTS WITH THE, UM, DEVELOPERS ON ONE END AND THE RADICAL PRESERVATIONISTS ON THE OTHER END. UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE, AND WILL MISS YOUR VOICE OR REASON YOUR LEVEL, HAND, UH, ON THE COMMISSION AS I'M SURE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WILL AS WELL. UM, MAYBE WE CAN UNMUTE AND I'LL GIVE A SHOW, EMILY A THANKS OF HER SERVICE. THANK YOU GUYS. AND THANK YOU, TERRY. I REALLY ENJOYED MY GOSH FOUR OR FIVE YEARS ON THE COMMISSION NOW. UM, IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND YEAH, I'M AM STEPPING DOWN JUST TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH MY FAMILY. AND YOU'LL PROBABLY HEAR MY ONE YEAR OLD IS CRYING IN THE BACKGROUND RIGHT NOW SO QUICKLY RENEWED MYSELF, BUT, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, UM, AND HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS. THANK, UM, WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND THIS IS THE, THIS IS TIME FOR, UM, IDENTIFYING IT, UM, THE CASES THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA AND THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AGENDA. SO, UM, THEY'RE WITH ME JUST A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME SHARING VIRTUALLY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CATCH EVERYTHING THAT WE'D HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, UM, OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TO DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THE, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE HAVE OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, ITEM AWAN, UH, A AS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC ZONING, A ONE, UH, LAST MEETING, UM, WE INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING FOR, UH, 25 OH ONE PARK VIEW DRIVE IN THE AIR CONDITIONED VILLAGE. AND AT THIS TIME WE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE HISTORIC, UH, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION ON HISTORIC ZONING, BUT, UH, TO BASICALLY LET IT, UM, [00:40:01] LET IT RIDE HERE BECAUSE THE APPLICANTS DID SUCH A GREAT JOB, UM, REVISING THEIR PLANS AND ACCEPTING THE CONTINENTS AND, UM, AND REQUESTS FOR REVISIONS FROM THE, FROM THE COMMISSION AND FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, ITEM EIGHT TWO, WE HAVE UP FOR DISCUSSION 26 OH NINE SAN PEDRO STREET. THIS IS, UH, THAT THIS WAS INITIATED FOR HISTORIC ZONING. LAST TIME I DID A THREE, THIS IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. THIS IS 28 16 SAN PEDRO STREET. AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THIS GO ON THE DISK ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AGENDA. I DIDN'T BEFORE I I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T B ONE IS 42 OH FIVE AVENUE F AND HYDE PARK. THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT. I DIDN'T BEAT TWO 40 10 AVENUE H IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, THEY BROUGHT, UH, PLANS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THIS CONSENT REQUEST IS PREDICATED ON, UH, THEIR REVISIONS TO RETAIN THE ROD IRON RAILING. THAT IS ORIGINAL. SO THE BUILDING ITEM B THREE SIX OH TWO HIGHLAND AVENUE, WE'RE GOING TO PULL IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEM ITEM D FOR THE WILDER HOUSE AT 14, 12 WATHEN AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B FIVE, THE MILLER C WRIGHT HOUSE AT 5,400 THEY'RE PLAYING. WE HAVE THAT POLL FOR DISCUSSION. WE HAVE APPLICANTS HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM, GOING ON TO ITEMS TO A CATEGORY C DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS WITHIN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. THREE 19 TO THREE 23 EAST SIXTH STREET. THAT TOO IS PREDICATED. UM, WE OFFERED THIS FOR CONSENT. IT'S PREDICATED ON REVISIONS MADE BY THE APPLICANTS TO, UM, THEY WERE ASKING FOR TWO ADDITIONAL STORIES ON TOP OF THEIR BUILDINGS. THEY HAVE BROUGHT THAT DOWN AND REVISE THEIR, UM, THEIR APPLICATIONS FURTHER. UM, THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT. UM, I DIDN'T SEE THREE 30, TWO OH SEVEN GLEN VIEW. UM, APPLICANT HAS ASKED FOR A POSTPONE ON THAT. SO THAT WILL GO ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ITEM C FOR MATT CHAIR. DID WE MISS C TOO? I'M SORRY. WE DID ITEM C TO A, THIS IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT. THIS IS 32 11 OAKMONT BOULEVARD. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS REVISED PLANS IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO SIMPLIFY THE PRIMARY FACADE AND INTRODUCE A MORE HORIZONTAL EMPHASIS. NOW, IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, YOU MAY DO THAT. UM, WE, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE ON THIS AT THE END, BUT YOU CAN, IF YOU CATCH MY ATTENTION, UM, THAT CAN BE PULLED FOR, UH, FOR DISCUSSION ANYTHING. MADAM CHAIR, JUST TWO ITEMS THAT ON ITEM C ONE AND C TWO, NOT THAT I WANT TO PULL THEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO ILLUSTRATE THE IMPORTANCE. SOMETIMES MAKING A DELAY IS THE BEST THING. UH, UM, I'M NOT THINKING THAT BOTH OF THESE REVISIONS MAKE FOR PERFECT SOLUTIONS, BUT THEY'RE MUCH IMPROVED. AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO IT. AND I THINK, UH, EVERYBODY IS WELL-SERVED FOR HAVING THOSE GO FORWARD IN THEIR REVISED CONDITION. I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO C ONE AND C TWO. BOTH OF THEM ARE THE SAME THING. WE SAW THEM. WE HAD COMMENTS, WE HAD CONCERNS AND THEY WERE ADDRESSED, I THOUGHT SUCCESSFULLY. OKAY, THANK YOU. I, I, I THINK THAT, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND, AND CAME FURTHER WITH THOSE. SO, UM, WE OFFERED THEM FOR CONSENT. UM, WE HAVE ON ITEM C3, 32 OH SEVEN GLEN VIEW. THIS IS THE, UM, POSTPONE THAT IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THAT WILL GO ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ITEM C FOR 1607 [00:45:01] NILES ROAD. WE'D OFFERED THIS FOR CONSENT. DID WE HAVE ANYONE, UH, WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? OKAY. IT WILL GO ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM C FIVE, 3002 BREAKER DRIVE IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL. SORRY, I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT TROUBLE WITH LAGGING. SO, UM, I CAN EITHER SEE YOU WITHOUT MY GLASSES ON OR SEE MY AGENDA IN MY HAND WITH MY GLASSES ON, BUT I HAVE C6, UM, IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND IT IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND LEAVE THE LOT UNDEVELOPED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PERMIT. UM, I THINK WE CAN OFFER THIS FOR CONSENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONTO THAT, THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT COMPLETE A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES AND, UH, UH, DIMENSION SKETCH OF THE, OF THE BUILDING FOR I, FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER, GOING ON TWO D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION ITEM D ONE 15, RATHER FOR PLACE IT WAS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TO IT. AND IT IS FULL FOR DISCUSSION ITEM. D TWO IS A RE ANOTHER POSTPONE RE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT ON 47, 14 ROWENA STREET. UM, THIS WILL GO ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ITEM, D THREE 1113 WEST 22ND AND A HALF STREET. UH, THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM COMMISSIONER. I BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT SO WE CAN TAKE IT UP IN THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AFTER THIS CONSENT AGENDA. AND THAT'S ON THE 22ND AND A HALF STRAIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN, UM, PLUS PHONE DISCUSSION, MOVING ON TO DEFORM. UM, 1807 WAS 36TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD, UM, THAT IT MAY BE APPROVED ON CONSENT, BUT WITH THE CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE ITEM D FIVE, THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT FOR 25 OH FIVE PARK VIEW DRIVE, AND ALSO FOR D SIX FOR 25 OH SEVEN PART V DRIVE. THIS IS ALSO A STAFF REQUEST TO POSTPONE. BOTH OF THEM TALKED TO OVER 26. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT UP IN THE POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION ITEM, D SEVEN IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. THAT'S 30 17 EAST 14TH STREET. AGAIN, THIS IS A, UH, DEMOLITION OF A 1947 HOUSE AND A 1950 GARAGE. AGAIN. UM, IF THIS PASSES ON CONSENT, IT SHOULD BE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. UM, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT, THAT THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE HISTORIC AGE, UM, THAT ARE BEING DEMOLISHED, WHETHER ON CONSENT OR AFTER, UM, AFTER DISCUSSION NEED TO BE DOCUMENTED FOR FUTURE RESEARCHERS CAN HAVE ON HAND AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER. AND THEN THE ONE, THE SEABORN SNEAD HOUSE THAT IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT. THAT'S A POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT. AND WE HAVE NO NEW UPDATES ON THAT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OFFER FOR CONSENT THE APPROVAL TO MAINTAIN THE CASE ON THE AGENDA AS WE HAVE FOR SOME TIME. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ BACK THE CONSENT ITEMS? YES. LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THAT. OKAY. FOR ON [Consent Agenda: 1, B1, B2, B4, C1, C2, C4, C5, C6, D4, D7, E1] THE CONSENT [00:50:03] WE HAVE B ONE, WE WOULD HAVE A MINUTES. WELL, I'M SORRY. THE MINUTES ARE ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR REVISIONS OR CORRECTIONS ON THE, UH, ON THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING? IF NOT, THEN WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO THE MINUTES APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA FOLLOWED BY B ONE 42 OH FIVE AVENUE, F 40 10 AVENUE, H B3. I'M SORRY. THAT'S FOR DISCUSSION. UM, BEFORE 14, 12 WATHEN STREET, C ONE THREE 19 TO THREE 23 EAST SIXTH STREET, C TWO 30 TO 11 OAKMONT BOULEVARD. OKAY. OKAY. FOUR 1607 ROAD FIVE, 3002 BREAKER DRIVE, C6 25, 25 HARTFORD ROAD. AND, UM, WHAT DO YOU HAVE D FOR IT'S, YOU KNOW, SEVEN WEST 36TH STREET AND FINALLY D SEVEN 30 17 EAST 14TH. ALL OF THESE OFFERS FOR CONSENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? SOME OF SECOND. OKAY. THAT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES. DO WE NEED TO ADD ON THE HOUSE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? I'M SORRY. YES, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDED ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER HIND SOUTH. WOULD YOU AMEND YOUR MOTION PLEASE? YES. TO INCLUDE THE, THE LAST ITEM, THE STEVEN'S NEED HOUSE. YES. MR. COOK AS WELL. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES. OKAY. NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA. THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME. I'M NOT AT MY HOME. I USUALLY HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS PRINTED OUT AND, UM, I'M AT MY SISTER'S HOUSE AND SHE SAID SHE'S RUNNING OUT OF PAPER, SO, OKAY. ITEM ONE. UM, 25 OH TWO PARK V DRIVE. THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. UM, OKAY. LET ME SEE. MADAM CHAIR. I THINK IF YOU JUMP AHEAD, [Postponed Items: C3, D2, D5, D6] THE FIRST, UH, CONSENT POSTPONEMENT WOULD BE C I'M RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE C3 32 OH SEVEN GLEN VIEW AND OKAY. WHERE'S THE NEXT ONE? UM, 47 14 ROWENA IS AN APPLICANT REQUEST AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR, UM, UNCONTESTED POSTPONEMENTS IS WITH THE STAFF, THE STAFF POSTPONEMENTS BE ALSO, THOSE ARE FOR DISCUSSION. WELL, ACTUALLY, SORRY, COMMISSIONER, IS THIS STEVE FIDELITY? IS THERE SOMEBODY TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO A POSTPONEMENT FOR A B AND B FIX THAT YOU HAVE IS ON PARKVIEW? LET ME ASK. IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE NOW TO SPEAK ON THE POSTPONEMENT OF, OKAY. WHICH ONES? THESE ARE THE PARKVIEW ITEMS. YES. FIVE AND D SIX. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK? OKAY. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THOSE TWO TO THE POSTPONEMENT, [00:55:01] UM, AGENDA. THIS IS DOMINIKA VIC. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. OKAY. NOW I HEAR YOU. YEAH. UM, IF THIS IS MY MOMENT TO SPEAK UP, I'M HERE TO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT BOTH 25 OH FIVE AND 25 OH SEVEN PARKY DRIVE. OKAY. DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU DO NOT WANT THEM TO BE POSTPONED? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT WINDOW I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING SINCE, YOU KNOW, I WE'RE JUST SPEAKING WHERE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MERITS OF THE CASE. JUST WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT MONTH. OKAY. SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING AND YOU'RE NOT GIVING US A CHANCE TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING. WE'RE JUST ASKING IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH POSTPONING IT TILL NEXT MONTH OR NOT. AND IF YOU'RE NOT, WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE DISCUSSION, UH, ON FOR DISCUSSION. AND YOU CAN ADDRESS IT WHEN THAT WHEN YOUR TIME COMES UP NEXT MONTH. NO, THIS MONTH. OKAY. YOU'RE TALKING IT THE TIME AT WHICH YOU CAN. YEAH. YOU CAN REQUEST THAT THE CASE BE HEARD TONIGHT, OR IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT BEING POSTPONED UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND IT WILL BE POSTPONED. OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY YOU ALL WANT TO POSTPONE IT. WE USUALLY POSTPONE ITEMS TO, UM, OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION, TO GATHER MORE FACTS ABOUT A CASE. UM, THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES AND WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, APPROVING THEIR DEMOLITION, UM, JUST ON CONSENT. SURE. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND UNDERSTAND THEIR SENSITIVITY AROUND THESE, UM, STRUCTURES. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SIGNIFICANCE IN THE LONGTERM, BUT I'M WILLING TO, IT COMES UP ON THE MIC IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU, THIS IS JUST TO EITHER KEEP THEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT OR TO ALLOW THEM TO BE POSTPONED TO NEXT MONTH. SURE. I'M FINE. IF YOU ALL WANT TO POSTPONE THEM UNTIL NEXT MONTH FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEN WE WILL ADD THOSE TWO PROPERTIES AT, UM, ON PARKVIEW TO THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA. IS THAT CLEAR WITH EVERYBODY ON THE COMMISSION? I'M SORRY FOR THE MISCOMMUNICATION. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA? WAS THAT KELLY LITTLE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. SECOND IS FROM COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, THESE ITEMS TO THE OCTOBER AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES. THOSE ITEMS WILL BE MOVED TO AND SOMEONE WANT TO SPEAK YET. YEAH, I DIDN'T SHARE. THIS IS KAT. AND IF YOU COULD JUST SAY WHAT THE VOTE WAS AFTER THE VOTE IS I'M TAKING NOTES AND I'M NOT ABLE TO FOLLOW THE VIDEO IN REAL TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG. I, YOU GET TO NINE YEAR OLD, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA PASSES ON A UNANIMOUS, UH, UNANIMOUS VOTE. UH, IT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE AND COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON MADE THE MOTION AND SECOND AND THE ITEMS ARE HELPED ME OUT. OKAY. OKAY. NOW WE HAVE TWO ITEMS OF THAT. WE WON THAT. UM, WE HAVE TO, OR DID WE JUST HAVE ONE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT? UM, [A3. HDP-2020-0293 – 2816 San Pedro Street – Discussion Postponement] 28, 16 SAN PEDRO STREET. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? CATERED JOSEPH? YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. UM, CAN WE JUST POSTPONE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW THAT ON THIS AGENDA, MR. JOSEPH, [01:00:02] I WOULD, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, MAYBE INFORMALLY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT FOR 60 SECONDS. I JUST WANT TO GET AN IDEA. I JUST WANT TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF LOCATING THE HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY. JUST REMOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT PART OF THE PROPERTY. CAN YOU HOLD ON JUST A SECOND, THERE'S SOME NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND OF IF YOU HAVEN'T NEEDED YOUR MICROPHONES, WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK AND DO SO. SO MR. JOSEPH, YOU'VE ASKED, UM, IF YOU COULD MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION ON THE SITE. YES. I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. LEAVE IT ON THE, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE PROPOSAL AT THIS TIME. WE CAN ONLY DISCUSS WHETHER TO POSTPONE OR NOT. THAT WORKS FOR Y'ALL. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THAT WORKS FOR Y'ALL TO KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. THEN WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA. LIKE, NO, I'M SORRY. THAT'S A MISTAKE. WE NEED TO DISCUSS WHETHER TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IS THERE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM OR LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA? WELL, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE JUMPED FORWARD, WHO PUT IT ON THE, WHO MADE THE REQUEST? WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT STAFF REQUESTED FOR NEIGHBORS? NOPE. THIS IS CATER AGAIN. I REQUESTED THE TIME I MET OR POSTPONE DISCUSSION. WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SORRY, I'M HAVING SOME AUDIO TROUBLE. UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK, UM, TO THE POSTPONEMENTS AS IT RELATES TO, UH, REDEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY. UM, AS WELL AS HOW THIS CASE MAY, UH, PROCEED IN TANDEM WITH THE CASE AT 26 OH NINE SAN PEDRO. SO STAFF, UM, IN FRONT OF THE APPLICANT AND, UM, DECIDED THAT A DISCUSSION POSTPONE THAT MAY ALLOW ON THAT MAY ALLOW THEM SOME TIME TO SHIFT, FORMULATE SOME PLANS TO BRING BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AND POTENTIALLY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, IF THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO THAT AS WELL. UM, SO WHAT IS YOUR DIRECTION ON THIS? HELLO? SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS AMENABLE TO HAVING IT ON THIS AGENDA, THEN, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED, BUT, UM, IF THEY WOULD LIKE MORE TIME, UH, THAN THE DISCUSSION POSTPONE THAT SHOULD, UH, SHOULD GO FORWARD TALENT. AND CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION, JOHN OF TAYLOR DIDN'T WE DECIDE THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH 2,609 AND THEN WE WOULD, WE WOULD DO A POST ON DISCUSSION FOR 28 16. YES. IS THAT, IS THAT, IS THAT HOW YOU UNDERSTOOD IT TOO? YES, IT IS. OKAY. THEN IF THAT WORKS FOR Y'ALL TO DO THAT, LET'S, LET'S DO IT. IF IT WORKS FOR US TO POSTPONE 28, 16 SAN PEDRO, BUT TO DISCUSS 26 OH NINE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE? I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS A POSTPONED DISCUSSION FOR 28, 16 SAN PEDRO. AND THERE WERE NO, THERE WAS NO POSTPONEMENT FOR 26 OH NINE. IT WAS JUST, IT WAS GOING TO BE A, IT WAS GOING TO BE HURT. CORRECT. THAT IS TO MY UNDERSTANDING. AND IF CALVIN UNDERSTOOD SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, JUST LET ME KNOW. OKAY. WELL, WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING THE POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER A THREE 28, 16 SAN PEDRO STREET TO THE NEXT AGENDA, TO THE NEXT MEETING? HEARING NONE. DO I HEAR ANOTHER MOTION? JUST TO CLARIFY, [01:05:03] IT SEEMS LIKE IF THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT YES. EASILY. NOPE. NOPE. I'LL MAKE PROMOTION WITH POSTPONE UNTIL NOVEMBER OR OCTOBER MEETING. DO I HEAR A THERE'S A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, BUT CORRIDOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING. THIS DOES APPARENTLY IS AMENABLE TO THE APPLICANT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES AND I DID NOT SEE A DESCENDING VOTE ON THAT. OKAY. SO THAT ITEM, WE WILL HEAR 2,609 SAN PEDRO. TONIGHT. WE WILL HEAR 28, 16 SAN PEDRO AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND I W I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO COME TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ON THIS. AND MAYBE WE CAN, UH, I'LL WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT THERE. THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO BREAK. I'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT. YES, I WAS JUST SAYING, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I SHOULDN'T HAVE SPOKEN. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST FINDING MY WAY HERE OR TRYING TO FIND MY WAY. OKAY. GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. UM, OKAY. FIVE OH TWO PARKVIEW DRIVE. THIS WAS, UM, THIS WAS AN APPLICATION. THIS WAS A COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY. THIS WAS THE PROPERTY THAT CAME UP, UM, AT, UH, LANDMARK COMMISSION LAST TIME. AND, UM, SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WERE MADE. UM, WHAT'S UP RIGHT NOW IS WE INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING. AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE COULD RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING. SURE. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT CONSIDER, YES. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT THE I NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM D THREE, WHICH WOULD BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN TAKE THAT UP BEFORE, BEFORE BEGINNING, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LEADING INTO IS THE PUBLIC, THE OVERALL PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE MEETINGS, IS THAT RIGHT? WHICH ITEM IS IT? [D3. 3. GF-2020-119343 – Discussion 1113 W. 22nd Half Street Council District 9] ITEM D THREE 11, 13 WEST 22ND, HALF AND A HALF STREET. THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA FOR REGULAR DISCUSSION. YES. THE COMMUNITY REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT AFTER, AFTER THE OFFENDER WAS POSTED. SO IT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. SO, YEAH. OKAY. THE COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT ON ITEM D THREE 11, 13 WEST 22ND AND A HALF STREET. UM, AT THIS TIME WE CAN DISCUSS WHETHER TO POSTPONE THE ITEM. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THERE? UM, YES. MA'AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. YES. MY NAME IS TRACY DAMRON AND I'M SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF OF CASWELL HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND FOR MYSELF, UH, OUR ASSOCIATION WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, AN ADDITIONAL PACKET OF OVER 40 PAGES OF INFORMATION AROUND 1:00 PM TODAY FROM A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER. UH, OUR ASSOCIATIONS HAVE NOT HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO GIVE A QUALIFIED DECISION REGARDING THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR BASIS FOR, UH, ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT OR CONTINUANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF POSTPONING? THIS ITEM, THE APPLICANT AND CHAIR KERRIGAN. SORRY. I WAS JUST ABLE TO CHECK [01:10:01] MY EMAIL AFTER NOT BEING ABLE TO GET INTO IT FOR A FEW HOURS. AND I GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT WHO IS, WHO AGREES TO A POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 26TH. SO I'M SORRY. I WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE NOW, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE AMENABLE TO THAT POSTPONEMENT. OKAY. THEN DO WE HAVE TO, UM, LET'S HAVE A MOTION ON THIS. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO POSTPONE DISCUSSION OCTOBER 2ND? WHO ARE YOU? I'M SORRY, I I'M SORRY. I DON'T SEE YOU. OKAY. THERE YOU ARE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER LITTLE MOVED TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE OCTOBER MEETING. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I HEARD ONE FROM SOMEONE. I THREW IT IN SECOND SECOND, THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TO THE OCTOBER MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IT'S UNIT. IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THE ITEM IS APPROVED. THIS WILL BE HEARD AT THE NEXT MEETING. YEAH. ONE, ONE QUICK ITEM ON THAT. UH, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE LEAVE, IF STAFF COULD LOOK INTO THIS, I GOT A PHONE CALL JUST BEFORE THE MEETINGS FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO SAID THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING WORK ON THE SITE. EVIDENTLY THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK AROUND A DRIVEWAY, AND THAT I CALLED THEM THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPACTED BY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED ON THE BUILDING. BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE PROPERTY, WE SHOULD AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S BEING CHECKED ON. THIS IS KAT. I THINK MAYBE CAN CALL THREE, ONE, ONE. THAT'S THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET, UH, GET ANY WORK IN PROGRESS. CHECKED CALLING THREE, ONE, ONE ME BE RIGHT THROUGH TO GET APPROPRIATE SERVICES. BUT WHEN IT COMES UP FOR PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH, NEXT MONTH, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT CONCERN, CHECK EACH DEPARTMENT STAFF TO MAKE SURE STAFF AT LEAST TELLS US WHAT THE CONDITION OF THAT COMPLAINT MIGHT BE? CHECK OURS. WE CAN CHECK THE SYSTEM AND SEE IF, IF A COMPLAINT HAS BEEN REPORTED AND RESOLVED. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING BACK TO, UM, EIGHT ONE. WE HAVE A MOTION ON A ONE LAST MONTH. WE INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING FOR 25 OH TWO PARK VIEW DRIVE. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT AGAIN, SIR. BUT [Additional Item 1] I THINK NOW IS THE TIME OF PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ALL OF THE FOLKS ON ALL OF IT. YOU'RE RIGHT. I HAVE A LIST. I HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK ON VARIOUS ITEMS. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, BUT, UM, I HAD CATERED JOSEPH, UM, FOUR EIGHT TWO. I HAVE BECKY JANES FOR B3, 600 TO FINLAND AND CLARISSA HOUSE. ARE YOU BOTH AVAILABLE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE HERE. OKAY. UM, WE ALSO HAVE MIGUEL RIVERA, SHED RENTALS, MAUREEN MATOYA, ROSEMARY AND MIRIAM, AND SHE WILL LIE IN ON SIX OH TWO HIGHLAND ON 5,400 FREE GREEK, PLAIN. WE HAVE VINCE HOUSER AND RICHARD AND JAIR ON 1607 NILES ROAD. YOU HAVE JENNIFER HAMLIN AND BEN DOZIER ON EIGHT 15 RUTHERFORD. WE HAVE KIM AND YOUNG HATE KIM AS WELL AS PAULA COTHRAN, KAUFMANN, ANGELA REED. THEN ON 1113, WEST 22ND AND A HALF STREET, WE JUST HEARD FROM TRUSTEE DAMRON, UM, ASKING TO POSTPONE THAT ITEM TO THE, UM, TO THE NEXT MEETING. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE MOVED ONE TO FIVE OH FIVE AND 25 OH SEVEN PART VIEW TO THE NEXT, [01:15:02] UH, TWO NEXT MONTH. ANYONE WHOSE ITEMS HAVE PASSED ON CONSENT ORDER AND GOING FORWARD TO THE POST TO BE ART BEING POSTPONED TO NEXT MONTH TO ME NOW LEAVE THE PHONE. YOU CAN NOW HANG UP. OKAY. OKAY. NOW CAN, UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO AWAN [A1. HDP-2020-0214 – 2502 Park View Drive – Discussion (Part 1 of 2)] STAFF? YOU CAN GO BACK TO 81, BUT WE'LL JUST NEED TO TAKE ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THIS IS CONFUSING TO ME. I'M SORRY. WE WENT OVER THIS. JOSEPH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR CASE AT 2,609 SAN PEDRO, PLEASE? ACTUALLY, MADAM CHAIR, IF THERE'S IS BARRY WILLIAMSON ON THE LINE. I KNOW HE CONTACTED US. I SPEAK ON DAY ONE ON OUR LIST. YES, STEVE. I AM. IF YOU NEED ME TO COMMENT. OKAY. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. SO MADAM CHAIR, IF, UH, IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE HIM, UH, TO SPEAK ON ITEM A ONE 25 OT, PARKVIEW. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HAVE HIM ON THE SIGNUP LIST. GO AHEAD, MISS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. UH, BARRY WILLIAMS AND MADAM CHAIR. I'M SORRY. PROCESS. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YES, MA'AM THIS WAS A, UH, OUR PLANS WERE DEMOLISHED THIS HOUSE AND THEN, UH, WE STARTED LOOKING AT IT. IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A HOUSE IN, UH, DISABILITY AND WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO, WE WORK WITH THAT TEAM. UH, THE MAIN THING THAT DEEP AND THE, AT THE VIEW OF THE HOUSE AND WILL BEND DURING, WE'VE MET WITH THE, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECT, UH, VERY CLOSE TO WHAT THEY SAID. SO, AND THIS, UH, AL UH, UH, THEN THERE'S THE ROOF LINE THAT REMAINS, UH, OVERTURN WALGREENS. BRIAN'S REPLACED THE PANEL, BUT, UH, UH, A LOT OF THINGS, WE TAKE DNA, ENERGY, SOME ENERGY, THE VERY OLD HISTORIC LOOK PANEL, THE PERFORATED, OUR BOARD. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. AND WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OPS THAT IF WE CAN GET THE APPROVAL, THAT'S ALL, OR YOU'RE MUTED. YOU'RE MUTED DEREK. SORRY, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR EIGHT TO MR. WILLIAMSON BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PUBLIC TESTIMONY? WASN'T THAT HIM? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO TEST THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT THAT THE COMMISSION DOES NOT RECOMMEND THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOUR REHABILITATION PLAN FOR THE HOUSE. I JUST WANT TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU ARE OPPOSED AND START ZONING IN THIS CASE. I AM ONE, I'M SORRY. DO YOU WANT THE HOUSE HISTORIC OR WOULD YOU PREFER IT NOT BE HISTORIC? I'D PREFER IT NOT BE OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION NOW, WHICH IF I COULD ADD MADAM CHAIR. YES. AND, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE JUST TO FOLLOW UP. UH, AND, UH, THIS APPLICANT JUST SHOULD BE AWARE THAT AT ANY FUTURE DATE, SO LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU VERY LIKELY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THAT AS A, UH, CANDIDATE FOR HISTORIC ZONING. UH, I WILL SAY YOU SAY THAT YOU, IF YOU INITIATE, IT WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS YOURSELF. WHEREAS IF YOU DO WHAT I DID MANY YEARS AGO, WHEN I OWNED A HOUSE IN THE CITY OF INITIATED THE ZONING, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, A LITTLE BIT OF A GIFT THERE. SO, UH, I JUST TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION. IF YOU GO FORWARD [01:20:01] RIGHT NOW, THE CITY WILL DO THE RESEARCH AND PRETTY MUCH WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS. UH, IF YOU INITIATE IT LATER, WHICH WE WOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE, YOU WOULD CONSIDER. IT IS A, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE WHEN THE, UH, OWNER INITIATES THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAKE SURE WE'LL SPLIT THAT WITH, UH, WITH THAT AND WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT. OKAY. AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MENTION NOTE AGAIN, THAT OUR, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE JUST, UH, WE NOT GO FORWARD. UM, SO PLEASE DISCUSS THAT WITH STAFF AND KIDNEY NOW. UM, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. WILLIAMSON? OKAY. THEN A TWO 26 OH NINE SAN PEDRO STREET, MR. JOSEPH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM. SO AT THIS TIME I'M STILL REQUESTING THAT A DEMOLITION PERMIT BE GRANTED FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2,609 SAN PEDRO STREET. THAT CURRENT IMPROVEMENTS ARE AN EXCEPTIONALLY POOR CONDITION, AND I'VE, I'VE UPLOADED A, AN ENGINEER'S REPORT. AND AS WELL AS THE CORRECT CERTIFIED RESIDENTIAL INSPECTOR'S REPORT TO TRULY SHOW HOW A POOR CONDITION TO DUPLEXES IN THE PROPERTY WAS OPERATED ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET BUDGET FOR DECADES. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT HAS VERY MINIMAL ROOF OVERHANG, JUST SOME OLD, BETTER THAN HAVE, UH, ARE NOT IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. SO OVER THE YEARS, SORRY, THERE'S A TERRIBLE ECHO ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW. UH, OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF, HANG ON, LET ME TAKE MY EAR BUDS. OKAY. I MEAN, IF THIS IS ANY BETTER OVER THE YEARS, THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S NO PROTECTION FOR, FOR BLOWING RAIN. AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE HOUSE IS LARGELY ROTTEN AND IT'S, IT'S SO BAD THAT RECENTLY HAD TO DO AN EMERGENCY REPAIR TO REBUILD THE BALCONY AS IT WAS ROTTED. AND LITERALLY ABOUT THE FALLOFF. IF I WOULD HAVE HUNG FROM, FROM IT, IT WOULD HAVE FALLEN OFF. UH, I'VE BEEN A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FOR 15 YEARS AND I'VE WORKED ON NUMEROUS LANDMARK PROPERTIES. AND I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS HOUSE, THERE WOULD BE NEARLY NO FABRIC LEFT THE WINDOWS DOORS, SIDING FOUNDATION GROUP, BETTER MECHANICAL ELECTRICAL PLUMBING SYSTEM, EXTERIOR STAIRS, BALCONY'S RAILING FLATWORK, PUMP, PORT, EVERYTHING WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND ONE SPECIAL MEASURES ARE TAKEN TO MAKE THE BUILDING STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND SAFE. THERE WOULD BE LITTLE, NO ORIGINAL FABRIC LEFT, UH, THAT THE DEPOT AND CONSIDERING AUSTIN'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR THE SITE WOULD HAVE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STUDIO UNITS ON IT THAT ARE, THAT ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT I CAN. AND AGAIN, I UPLOADED THE RESIDENTIAL EFFECTORS BEFORE AND THE ENGINEER'S REPORT TO HELP SHED MORE LIGHT ON THINGS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. JOSEPH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM WHILE HE'S HERE ON THE LINE? DOES ITEMS SHOULD BE, SHOULD ALL BE IN YOUR BACKUP? OKAY. THEN WE'LL GO ON [B3. HR-2020-125268 – Discussion 602 Highland Avenue (Smoot/Terrace Park Historic District) Council District 9] TO BE THREE, SIX OH TWO HIGHLAND, BECKY JANES. YOU MAY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK EACH. UM, EACH SPEAKER MAY HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU MAY NOT DONATE TIME. MS. JANE, GO AHEAD. OKAY. I'M BECKY I'M READY. OKAY. WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING A SECOND STORY ON EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, THAT 600 TO HIGHLANDS, UM, THAT CURRENTLY UNDERGOES BASEMENT, UH, CONVERSION ADDITION AS WELL. [01:25:01] UH, THE, AROUND A PROJECT WE ENGAGED WITH A WANNA WORK ON MY COMMISSION, UH, EARLIER THIS SUMMER, UM, TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND AS, YOU KNOW, PRESENT OUR PROJECT OBJECTIVES AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BEST FIT MIGHT BE, UM, FOR THE PROJECT TAKING ANY CONSIDERATION OF OTHERS. I'M SORRY. OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, BOTH AWANA NEIGHBOR, AND THORKILDSEN GIVEN THEIR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. UM, WE OVERCOMPENSATE ON THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UM, WE'VE EVOLVED. THE CONCEPT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL IS THAT THIS BALANCE WITH OTHERWISE, UM, CONCERN AND, UH, CLIENT AS WELL, UM, ADJUSTED SO THAT WE COULD COME MORE AMENABLE TO THOSE AROUND US. SO WHAT , UM, THE FIRST, THE FIRST GATE IS REALLY KIND OF A SUMMARY OF A PROJECT. I, THAT'S WHY I END WITH A FEW QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP FROM AND THEN SORT COMMISSION, POSSIBLY WEST OF THE SITE WITH RELATIONSHIP TO KIND OF MORE COMMERCIAL SECTORS, THE SOUTH AND A JOURNEY TO THE NORTH. UM, AND THEN ALSO SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF SAR AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE RELEVANT FOR THE BASEMENT. UM, THE BANK CONSIDERING WITH REGARD TO IS KEEPING SOME OF THE PROPORTION OF THE EXISTING WINDOW OPENING ON THE OPPOSITE, CASEMENT, OPENING AN OPERATION ON THE WINDOWS, BUT THE ACTUAL PROPORTIONS, THE OPENINGS ARE SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING HOME, UH, THE SOUTH AND THE ROOF LINES THAT KIND OF STAGGERED CABLE, BOTH OF THE UPPER LEVEL, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE CONTEXT OF THE HOME AS WELL. UM, THERE IS A RESPECT COMPONENT, BUT WE WERE POSITIONING IN A WAY TO BE MINDFUL THAT NOT THE THIRD, ANY LABOR, AND THEN ALSO NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET ITSELF. UM, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY TUCKED UNDER THE MAIN CABLE SECTOR, DB THE THING HOME. UM, I THINK THAT COVERS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. IS THERE SOMEONE SPEAKING IT'S CAN, CAN EVERYONE ON THE PUBLIC LINE PLEASE MUTE? OKAY. YOUR TIME IS UP. WHAT WAS IT THAT YOU ASKED? I DIDN'T ASK HIM ANYTHING. I JUST SAID THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, OUR, SORRY, WHAT WAS SUPPOSING HERE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS KIND OF WORKING TO GET TO THE POINT. OKAY. WAS THERE, IS THERE A SECOND SPEAKER IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, CLARISSA HOUSE? NO COURSES, CLARISSA HOUSE ON THE LINES. JUST MY THOUGHTS. OKAY. UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MIGUEL RIVERA. YEAH, THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, I'M A PART OF THE TONY COMMITTEE. I'M AN ARCHITECT, OR SHE'LL ALMOST LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM THIS CORPORATELY. I THINK, UH, THE APPLICANTS, THE ARCHITECT BAKE ARE A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO WORK. UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE HIS HARD ADJUSTMENT, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE TALK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, ADDITION FOR, FOR MANY REASONS. BUT, UH, FOR THE ONE THAT I'M GOING TO MENTION IS THIS IS A VERY, UH, INTERESTING, NOT IN TERMS THAT IS A CONDOMINIUM. THE LORD HAS BEEN SPLIT INTO TWO AND THIS HOUSE IS ANOTHER HOUSE, ACTUALLY GOT A BUILDING PERMIT AT THE END OF THE LAST WEEK OR SO TO DO ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE BACK. IT'S BEEN VERY CONFUSING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE GRAY. THEN I THROW ELEVATIONS. THE ACTUAL BACK OF THE HOUSE IS ABOUT THREE STORIES TALL. WE REQUESTED THE ARCHITECT. IF WE [01:30:01] CAN GET THE NAME OF THE OWNER IN THE BACK TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM, I NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET A REACH THAT NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH IS AN OPPOSITION, UH, TO THIS ADDITION, UH, AS THEY'RE LOOKING STRAIGHT DOWN TO THEIR COURTYARD AND THEIR HOUSE, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT'S BEEN DIVIDED INTO TWO, TWO BIG HOMES. THE DENSITY, THE SCALE OF THIS ADDITION IS GOING TO GO AGAINST WHAT IS THE SCALE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY DUPLICATING OR DOUBLING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE WITH THIS BASEMENT ADDITION AND, UH, HAVING ANOTHER OFFICE OR AN OFFICE UP IN, IN WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE A SECOND FLOOR, BUT FROM THE BACK FOR THE OTHER NEIGHBOR IS A THIRD FLOOR BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FULL, UH, YOU KNOW, BANK OF FOAM FLOOR EXPOSED TO THE TODAY OVER THE GROUND. SO, UH, WE SHOWED THAT THE MASSING TO GAIN FOR A LITTLE ROOM OR A LITTLE OFFICE THERE. IT REALLY GOES AGAIN, THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS. WE DIDN'T GET A SINGLE, UH, NEIGHBOR COMING FORWARD TO SUPPORT THIS ON THE CONTRARY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND, AND THE CHANGE IS JUST REALLY CHANGED THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MARRIED TO CHANGE. SO MOST OF OUR LITTLE, YOU KNOW, OFFICE THERE AND A VIEWING DECK, THEY ARE A BIG SPIRAL STAIR THAT GOES UP THERE IN THE BANK THAT, IN MY VIEW, THE SUBWAY TO GO WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE ARCHITECTURE. AND, UH, AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M JUST MORE OFTEN THESE NEVER IN THE BACK EITHER A WHAT, HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL ABOUT HAVING A THREE STORY LOOK FROM THEIR HOUSE, OR THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW. SO, UM, THAT'S THE MAIN OPPOSITE, MY MAIN, UH, THANK YOU, MR. RIVERA. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. RIVERA, COMMISSIONER MINDSETS? I JUST A QUICK QUESTION OF STAFF THAT WOULD BE RELEVANT TO MR. RIVERA'S COMMENT. UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORIC DISTRICT REVIEW, IF THE OTHER APPLICANT IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WERE TO BE GOING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE REVIEWED AT THAT WHATEVER TIME IT COMES THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO WE HAVE JURISDICTION ON THAT AT THAT TIME, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CORRECT FROM STAFF THAT IS CORRECT COMMISSIONER AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING, UH, ON A STRUCTURE IN, ON THE BACK REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY. AND THAT CONSTRUCTION WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY AND ANY, ANY CONSTRUCTION, ANY OTHER STANDALONE GROUND UP NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOW, UH, UH, THEY CAN, IT IS NOW IS NOW EMPTY, BUT IT'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THAT WOULD ALSO BE REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION, BUT THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS BEGINNING, WAS REVIEWED AND APPROVED PREVIOUSLY BY THE COMMISSION. OKAY. SO IF A ONE IS NOT AWARE THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MAKE AVAILABLE? SURE. IF THEY CAN REACH OUT TO KELLEN CONTRAREZ SHE WAS THE CASE MANAGER FOR THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO WOULD BE ON THE HISTORIC CLIMATE COMMISSION, BACKUP WEBSITE, AUSTIN, TEXAS, OR FRESH HSC. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. RIVERA? OKAY. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SHED RENTALS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. YEP. THREE MINUTES. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS SHARP REYNOLDS AND I HAVE BEEN AT SIX OH FOUR HIGHLAND AVENUE NEXT DOOR TO SIX OH TWO, SINCE 2003. UH, TWO IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF A GREAT SUCCESS IN MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF OLD WEST AUSTIN. THIS HOUSE WAS IN VERY POOR REPAIR WHEN I FIRST MOVED IN, THE OWNER KNEW HOW BEAUTIFUL IT COULD BE, BUT, UH, HAD NEITHER THE TIME NOR THE RESOURCES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THE SUBSEQUENT OWNER WAS IN A BETTER POSITION AND TURN THIS HOME INTO A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE OF A SORT OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN BUNGALOW KIND OF AESTHETIC. UM, HOWEVER, I FEEL THE CURRENT PROJECT UNDER CONSIDERATION IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE SMOOTH TERRACE, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. I SPOKE TO THIS COMMITTEE A FEW YEARS BACK IN SUPPORT OF THE LHD, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT AND ITS CURRENT INCARNATION. THE LHD SPECIFICALLY CALLS OUT MATCHING A NUMBER OF TIMES, UH, SIX OH TWO UNIT ONE. SO THAT, THAT FRONT LOT IS NEARLY 4,951 SQUARE SEAT. AND THE ORIGINAL HOME WAS ONLY 1,431 SQUARE FEET. THE CURRENT DESIGN UNDER CONSIDERATION EXPAND THIS HOME TO 3,114 SQUARE FEET, [01:35:01] MORE THAN DOUBLING AT ORIGINAL SIZE. IF YOU TAKE UNIT TWO INTO CONSIDERATION, THIS BRINGS THE TOTAL LOT SIZE TO 7,063 SQUARE FEET, AND IT IS PLANNED TO HAVE OVER 4,170 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. THIS INCLUDES THE 1345 SQUARE FEET OF A BASEMENT FAR EXEMPTION. THE CURRENT DESIGN AS AN ADDITIONAL THIRD STORY ON TOP OF THE BASEMENT AND MAIN FLOOR LHD RECOMMENDS OWNERS CONSIDER CREATION OF USABLE SPACE BY FINISHING OUT THE EXISTING ATTIC, INCLUDING THE ADDITION OF DORMERS ON A SIDE OR REAR ROOF SLOPE, THIS DESIGN INSTEAD AS AN ENTIRE NEW FLOOR, CREATING A NEW ROOF LINE WITH NINE FOOT CEILINGS AND THE WALKOUT DECK, THE SEALS OUT OF SCALE FOR THE LOT. AND IT FEELS OUT OF SCALE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE PRECEDENT THAT SETS FOR OLD WEST AUSTIN AND THE SMOOTH TERRACE, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TO SEE ME. THANK YOU, MR. RONALDS, ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. REYNOLDS? I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, YOU SAID THE CURRENT DESIGN, UM, IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS. UM, IN PARTICULAR YOU MENTIONED MASSING, WHAT OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR A SMOOTH TERRACE? UM, DO YOU FEEL THAT THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF, UM, IT IS REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SAY, I MEAN, I WAS INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT PROCESS. UM, THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AS I MENTIONED AROUND, UH, HOW TO MAKE BETTER USE OF KIND OF ADDICTS SPACE, UH, AS, AS POSSIBLE OR USE EXISTING, UH, USING THAT EXISTS. THAT IS, EXCUSE ME, USING THAT EXISTING SPACE AND ADDING ADDITIONAL DORMERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THAT. THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A VERY LARGE FLOOR THAT IS BEING ADDED ON THE TOP. UM, THERE WAS ALSO ONE OTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT ONE STORY HOMES SHOULD, UH, STICK TO ONE ADDITIONAL STORY. AND IN THIS CASE, UH, THIS HOUSE IS DEFINITELY ADDING TWO ADDITIONAL STORIES. SO THE BASEMENT, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND, UH, FOR THE RECORD, I LIKE THE UNDER THE BASEMENT, UM, THAT THEY'VE PUT INTO THE HOUSE. I, I THINK WE AS NEIGHBORS PROVE IT, THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD, UH, SIX WEEKS OF JACK HAMMERING NEXT DOOR TO US, BUT WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THAT, BUT THIS GOING UP ONE ADDITIONAL STORY JUST SEEMS TO BE OUT OF, UM, IT SEEMS TO BE, UH, OUT OF LINE WITH THE LHD. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. REYNOLDS? DO WE HAVE MARINE MATOYA HI, MAUREEN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. I WILL ECHO WHAT OUR OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE SAID. UM, BASICALLY A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION TO FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE PERMITS PURSUED FOR THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN SORT OF ODD. FIRST. IT WAS PURSUING THE BASEMENT AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAD NO ISSUE WITH THAT. THE NEIGHBORS WERE FINE WITH THAT. NOW WE'RE BACK PURSUING ANOTHER ADDITION TO THIS HOUSE. SO, SO THERE WERE QUESTIONS AS TO WHY THIS IS GETTING DONE IN, IN DIFFERENT WAYS ALL AT ONCE. BUT THE MAJOR OPPOSITION HERE IS THE MASSING OF THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH MR. REYNOLDS SPOKE TO. IT REALLY WILL APPEAR EXTREMELY TALL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE VIEW OF THE HOUSE FROM UP THE HILL, HIGHLAND AVENUE IS DOTTED WITH THESE LOVELY HOMES THAT FOLLOW THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE HILLSIDE AND THE WHAT ESSENTIALLY WILL BE RENDERED A THIRD STORY. WELL, THAT'S NOT LATE DISRUPT THAT THAT'S SLOW. ALSO THE ROUTE STACK THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE HOUSE. THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR THIS ANYWHERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ROOTSTOCKS THAT GET ADDED TO HOMES IN THIS PART OF AUSTIN ARE USUALLY DONE ON THE BACK SIDE AS NOT TO DISRUPT THE FACADE. THIS IS DEFINITELY, I BELIEVE A MAJOR VIOLATION OF KEEPING THE HISTORIC FACADE OF THE HOUSE INTACT. UM, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE PURCHASE HOMES IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THEY DO MAKE TRADE OFFS. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE PURCHASING. THEY KNOW WHAT THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE. A RISK STACK IS A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A VERY LARGE ADDITION ON THE TOP OF ROOF IS A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. THERE ARE PRECEDENTS UP AND DOWN THE STREET WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE USE OF EXISTING ADDICTS SPACE AND HAVE DONE MODEST BUILD OUTS TO GAIN AND ACHIEVE SOME EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE. THIS REALLY IS JUST ABSOLUTELY PUSHING THE LIMITS [01:40:01] AND WILL TRULY, UH, I THINK CREATE A BAD HISTORIC OR BAD PRECEDENT FOR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. LATONYA? OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE ROSEMARY, MIRIAM. MS. MIRIAM, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. YEAH. THREE MINUTES. WELL, FROM THE FIRST TIME I APPEARED BEFORE THE HLC, WHICH WAS MANY YEARS AGO, I WAS, UM, TRYING TO KEEP A HOUSE FROM EITHER BEING DEMOLISHED OR THE HISTORIC FACADE OF THE FRONT BEING CHANGED. AND I WAS TOLD THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT I COULD DO THIS WAS BY CREATING, UM, OR MAKING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THREE. THE MOST RECENT IS THIS ONE, THIS MOOT TERRACE. UM, I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S THAT I CAN SEE. IT'S NOT A SECOND STORY. IT'S A THIRD STORY. IT'S NOT UNDER THE EASE OF THE FRONT ROOF AND YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE STREET AND YOU CAN ESPECIALLY SEE IT FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS YOU WALK DOWN. UM, I ALSO WONDER WHY THE CONCERN OF THE NEARBY NEIGHBORS WASN'T TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT BECAUSE THE HOUSE OVERLOOKS THEIR YARD AND BASICALLY REMOVES ANY PRIVACY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TELL PEOPLE ABOUT HAVING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS PEOPLE CANNOT BUILD SOME HUGE MONSTROSITY NEXT TO YOU. THEY HAVE TO STAY WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS OF THE HOUSE THEY CAN ADD ON TO THE BACK, BUT THEY CAN'T MAKE IT SO MUCH TALLER THAN AN INVADE THEIR PRIVACY. ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS FOR MRS. MARION IS SHEILA LYON AVAILABLE MS. LYONS I'M HERE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. I AM SHEILA LYON, THE AWANA ZONING CHAIR IN SUMMARY, THE ZONING COMMITTEE MET WITH THE ARCHITECTS THREE TIMES TO REVIEW THE SECOND STORY ADDITION AT SIX OH TWO HIGHLAND AVENUE. WELL, THE SECOND REVIEW WAS AN IMPROVEMENT. THE ZONING COMMITTEE OPPOSES A SECOND STORY ADDITION FOR THE FOLLOWING SIX REASONS. NUMBER ONE, NEW ADDITION SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC BUILDING BY REFLECTING THE SCALE AND MASSING. AND NOW STEVE REQUIREMENT, THE HISTORIC HOME IN THE SMOOT, DARA, THE HISTORIC HOMES IN THE SMOOT TERRACE, TERRACE PARK LHD, OR ONE OR TWO STORY HOMES BECAUSE THE BASEMENT EXEMPTION WAS GIVEN AT A LITTLE OVER 1% UNIT ONE AT SIX OH TWO HIGHLAND DOES NOT HAVE TO CALL THE WALKOUT BASEMENT, WHICH IS LARGELY OPEN TO THE SOUTH AND WEST, THE FIRST FLOOR. SO IN FAIRNESS, THE SECOND STORY ADDITION WILL REALLY BE A THIRD STORY ADDITION. WHY DO WE HAVE LHDS STANDARDS? IF, IF A 1% ON THE EDGE QUESTIONABLY RELEVANT FIGURE CAN GENERATE SUCH MAJOR CHANGES TO THE BUILDING TERRAIN AND RESIDENT DENSITY OF A PROJECT. THIS SEEMS LIKE POOR OVERSIGHT BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS. NUMBER TWO, DESIGN, NEW ADDITIONS THAT ARE SUBORDINATE TO AND DO NOT OVERPOWER THE HISTORIC BUILDING. ANOTHER LHD REQUIREMENT. THE TWO PERSPECTIVES SHOWN AT THE REVIEWS ATTEMPT TO INDICATE THE ADDITIONAL NOW OVERPOWER THE ORIGINAL CONTRIBUTING HOME HIGHLAND AVENUE IS SLOPING. SO THE ADDITION MAY STAND OUT MORE AT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. THE SECOND STORY ADDITION, AS WELL AS THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE WILL CERTAINLY BE OVERPOWERING TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH. NUMBER THREE, THE NEIGHBOR'S BOARDING ON THE NORTH SIDE, OPPOSE THE PROPOSED SECOND STORY ADDITION, THE NEIGHBORS FEEL IT WILL BE OVERPOWERING FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND WILL SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THEIR PRIVACY. THE ISSUE OF PRIVACY REGARDING WINDOW SIZE RELATES TO INTRUSIVENESS NO ONE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR NOT IN ONE WANTS TO FEEL PRESSURED BY ENCROACHMENT. CERTAINLY NOT ENCROACHMENT OF A STRUCTURE THAT INVALIDATES THE STYLE AND CHARACTER, THE SIZE AND SCALE, THE INTENT AND INSPIRATION OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOME DESIGNS. THERE IS A MATTER OF TASTE AT PLAY HERE, AND IT WOULD SEEM TASTE OR STYLE ARE PARAMOUNT AND MAINTAIN THE CHARM OF AN HISTORIC AREA. NUMBER FOUR, LACK OF LETTER OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE OWNER OF UNIT TWO, NUMBER FIVE, FRONT FACADE, UPPER STORY DYKES DO NOT EXIST ON HISTORIC BUNGALOW HOMES AND SMOKE TERRACE. LHD. THIS CREATES A NON HISTORIC PRECEDENT. NUMBER SIX, LETTING OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS MAKE RADICAL CHANGES TO THE LAND ITSELF. ALL IN THE SERVICE OF ACHIEVING A BUILD SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO KEEPING HISTORIC AND STYLISH STYLISTIC NORMS IN PLACE FOR AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD. WHY HAVE SMOOTHED TERRACE PARK DESIGN STANDARDS, ZONING [01:45:01] STANDARDS, OR ANY STANDARDS IF A FEW SHEETS OF IRON AND A TON OF DIRT CAN INVALIDATE THOSE STANDARDS IN THE SPAN OF A DAY OR TWO? WELL, THIS IS A, NOT A PART OF THE PROPOSED. SECOND, CAN YOU WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS VERY QUICKLY, PLEASE? WELL, THIS IS NOT A PART OF THE PROPOSED SECOND STORY ADDITION. IT IS EASY TO SEE IN THE PHOTOS, HOW CHANGES THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, CHANGES TO THE HISTORIC HOME CAN DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. LYON DURING NIGHT? WE WILL GO ON TO THE SPEAKER FOR 5,400 FREE GREEKS IS 32. THE APPLICANT CAN HAVE A FEW MINUTES IF SHE WOULD DESIRE FOR THE CASE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UM, OKAY. AS THE APPLICANT LIKE TO REBOOK, YES. THIS IS BECKY BECKY. WHEN YOU SPEAK THIS TIME, COULD YOU SPEAK KIND OF SLOWLY AND DISTINCTLY PLEASE SHARE? I THINK WE ELIMINATED THE ECHO THIS TIME. SO A LITTLE LESS DISTRACTING. UM, YES. SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO RESPOND. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS THAT, UM, THAT CAME UP. UM, THE OWNER TO THE, WE ARE IN THE UNIT, TWO OF THE PROPERTY ARE RUNNING THE IMPRESSION THAT HE DID REACH OUT TO A WANNA CONFIRM WITH US THAT HE DID SUPPORT THE PROJECT. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET AN ACTUAL LETTER FROM HIM, UM, FOR REASONS UNKNOWN, BUT, UM, THAT WAS CONVEYED TO US BY THE OWNER THEMSELVES. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. UM, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, UH, IN A FORMAL WRITTEN WAY. UM, AS FAR AS THE MAPPING GOES, THE BASEMENT SPECIFICALLY, I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS A CURRENT BASEMENT AS THERE WASN'T EXISTING BASEMENT THERE, THAT THIS IS BEING EXPANDED UPON. SO THE MASS OF THE BASEMENT IS ACTUALLY ALREADY IN PLACE AND HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH, UM, THE OWNERS JUST KIND OF TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY ENCROACHING ON THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT ITSELF. UM, SO THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, WHILE THERE'S MORE OF EXPOSURE ON THE REAR SIDE OF OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE STREET VIEW WAS THE MAIN CONCERN OF THE, UM, THE HISTORIC AGENDA. AND SO WE INCLUDED THOSE TWO VIEWS FROM BOTH UPHILL AND DOWNHILL AND OUR PROPOSAL, UH, THE THREE DIMENSIONAL VIEWS, JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE KIND OF, UH, APPEARANCE OR PRESENCE OF THIS UPPER LEVEL IS FROM THE STREET. SO, UM, WHILE THERE IS A BASEMENT HAPPENING ONSITE, I DO REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE BASEMENT IS THERE IS A PORTION OF A BASEMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, AND THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE BASEMENT ITSELF. UM, AS FAR AS THE DESIGN STANDARDS CONCERNED, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY. I KNOW THAT THIS NEW TERRACE DESIGNED HISTORIC DISTRICT WAS, UM, IT WAS A RELATIVELY NEW ADOPTION. UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY IT WAS ADOPTED PRIOR TO THE OWNERSHIP HERE. I KNOW IT WAS PROBABLY REALLY CLOSE IN TIMELINE, BUT, UM, JUST TO KIND OF PUT OUT THAT AS WELL, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THE OWNER KNEW HE WAS BUYING INTO JUST TO REFLECT ON THAT POINT. UM, CAUSE I DO KNOW IT'S A RELATIVELY NEW ESTABLISHMENT. WE'VE, WE'VE DEALT WITH A NUMBER OF PROJECTS NOW IN IT. UM, THOSE ARE THE MAIN CONCERNS I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT CAME UP FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UM, ALL NAMES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VERY CLOSELY OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND, AND JUST REALLY TRYING TO BRING A HAPPY MEDIUM FOR EVERYONE, BUT THE OWNER AND EVERYONE ELSE AROUND. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, MS. JAMES? I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, YOU SAY THAT THE BASEMENT IS ALREADY EXISTING. HOW, WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, OF THE BASEMENT BEFORE WORK WAS STARTED ON IT? ALL RIGHT OFF HAND, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 25%, 25 TO 30% OF THE FOOTPRINT, UM, THAT WE'VE EXPANDED INTO, UM, THAT WE ARE, UM, UNDERNEATH THE EXISTING HOUSE. AND WAS IT USABLE SPACE AT THE TIME? WAS IT LIVABLE SPACE AT THE TIME? YES, IT WAS ACCESS FROM THE EXTERIOR. I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE A BEDROOM OR A GUEST ROOM, A ROOM, A ROOM, A [01:50:01] ROOM WITH A PRIVATE AND SOME STORAGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO NOW IT'S BEING EXTENDED TO, UM, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE NOW PLEASE REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT THOSE MINUTES, I THINK IF ON PAGE ONE, IT'S 1,345 SQUARE FEET AND IT REFLECTS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UM, OF THE MAIN STORY. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW, UM, I'M GOING ON TO BE FIVE 5,403. GRAPES IS VINCE HAUSER ON THE LINE. THIS IS VINCE. MR. HAUSER, DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU. UM, I'M GOING TO REFER TO THE FLOOR PLAN FOR A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, UH, ON THE WINDOWS FOR THE MILLER C ROD HOUSE. IF, IF THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSIONERS, THE, THE, UH, THE NEWER SEAWRIGHT HOUSE IS, UH, IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S AN OLD HOUSE THAT HAS BECOME A COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE OFFICE FOR A VERY LARGE MOBILE HOME PARK IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN. UM, THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE WAS BUILT, UH, ACCORDING TO CITY OF AUSTIN RECORDS IN 1883 BY THE MILLER FAMILY, AND THEN SOLD TO THE C REITS IN 1894. SO THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF, OF THE HOME IS QUITE OLD, UM, ON THE, ON THE FLOOR PLAN, THE PLAN, RIGHT? THERE'S THREE MAJOR RULES, UH, BY WAY OF DESCRIBING A CHRONOLOGY, WHICH, UH, MY ESTIMATE IT COMPRISES THE ORIGINAL HOME. THEN THERE WERE A SERIES OF ADDITIONS THAT, UH, I ESTIMATE TO BE DONE IN, UH, AROUND THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, POSSIBLY IS AS RECENT AS THE TWENTIES. THERE'S A MEETING ROOM THAT'S LABELED A MEETING ROOM FOR THAT WAS AN EARLY EDITION. THERE'S A MEETING ROOM TO, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PLAN, WHICH WAS VERY EARLY EDITION, ALSO CONNECTED BY A PORCH, WHICH I, UH, ESTIMATE WAS PART OF THAT THEORY. EARLY ADDITION, EVERYTHING TO THE, UM, TO THE EAST OF THAT, UH, WAS, WAS A LATER EDITION. THE, THE, THE SUBJECT OF THE, OF THE REQUEST IS TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS IN THE HOME. UH, STAFF ASKED US TO PROVIDE A WINDOW SURVEY, WHICH WE DID. AND, UM, YOU WERE ABOUT FROM THE PLANS THAT, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF THE HOUSE IS BEING RECONSTRUCTED. UH, AND THERE'S A PARTIAL EXPANSION ON THAT, ON THE INSIDE OF THE L IF YOU WILL. THE ROOM LABELED CARTER WENT OUT FOR IS COMPLETELY FALLING APART AND IS TO BE REBUILT THE EXISTING WINDOWS, LABELED A WINDOWS, OR, UH, NOT HISTORIC AND ARE PROPOSED TO BE NEW, UM, IN THE ROOM LABELED, WAITING ROOM. THAT'S MOSTLY NEW CONSTRUCTION. THOSE B WINDOWS ARE PROPOSED TO BE NEW WINDOWS IN THE OFFICE. WINDOWS NINE THROUGH 13, UH, ARE FROM AN EARLY EDITION. UH, AND WE'RE PROPOSING THOSE TO THE NEW AND HAVE DESCRIBED THE DETAIL OF THE WORK REPORT REQUIRED TO REPAIR THOSE IN THE WINDOW. SCHEDULE. THE WINDOWS IN THE WORST CONDITION ARE REALLY ALL ALONG THE NORTH END OF THE HOUSE TO WRAP UP. UH, THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR REASONS OF PRIMARILY OPERATIONALLY ECONOMY, SO WE CAN GET GOOD, PROPER OPTIONING OPERATING WINDOWS, UH, AND TO, UH, HELP CONTROL THE COSTS. THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER SHARING? NONE. DO WE HAVE RICHARD ON THE LINE? YES. THIS IS RICHARD MANGER. I REPRESENT THE OWNERS OF, UH, IT'S NOT A MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY, UH, WHICH IS IN SOUTH AUSTIN. UH, WE, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROJECT. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD. UH, THE WINDOW IN QUESTION, UH, WE ACTUALLY TRIED, WHEN WE DID THE EXTERIOR PAINT ON THE HOME, WE TRY TO SALVAGE THE WINDOWS AS MUCH AS WE COULD. [01:55:01] IT, THE MALIAN IN THE WINDOWS ARE DETERIORATED TO THE POINT WHERE EVERY FASHION AT HOME WITH EIGHT REPLACEMENT. AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE FACTORIES THAT NEED REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE WINDOW PITNEY REPLACEMENT. WE HAVE BILLS THAT NEED REPLACEMENT EXTRA YOURSELF. SO THE, THE OCCUPIES IS TO GO BACK INTO A BIMINGTON WINDOW. UH, YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT, UH, UH, INFORMATION THERE. AND WE WERE GOING TO USE A SET UP WITH A POLICY WHAP MILLION. WE WERE GOING TO USE THE SCULPTOR, MALIA AND WHITE. SO WE WERE KEEPING THE AESTHETIC OF THE HOUSE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CAGE THE FRONT END AT ALL, BUT WE WANT TO CHANGE THE WINDOWS SO THAT WE, WE THERE'S YOUNG KIDS IN THERE. WE HAVE KIDS THAT ARE THROWING ROCKS AT WINDOWS OSTEON WINDOW. IF WE KEEP THE OLDER WINDOWS, WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THEM CONSTANTLY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO TRAIN THE YOUNG KIDS, NOT TO FOR A ROCK, BUT THAT'S NOT A ME THING. BUT IN ADDITION, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO PUT THE FINAL WINDOW, IT'LL SPOKE UP, WALK UP THE HISTORICAL HOME. IT'S LIKE, LIKE A FIXED HOUSE THAT IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF IS A MOBILE HOME PROPERTY. UH, IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS, UH, JUST RESIDENTS, THE ELITE AND A OFFICE SPACE FOR THE PROPERTY. UM, I GUESS WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO, UH, ACTUALLY GO WITH THE FINAL WINDOW FOR ENERGY AND COST. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? OKAY. HEARING NONE GOING UNDER SIX, ONE MORE THING. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY. I'M CALLING HERE FROM DETROIT, MICHIGAN, SO YOU KNOW. OKAY. UM, 1607 NILES. UH, JENNIFER HANLIN. ARE YOU ON THE LINE? UH, MADAM CHAIR. I BELIEVE THAT PASSED ON CONSENT. OKAY. I'M SORRY. OUR MISTAKE. I BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE TOP OF THE LIST BY MISTAKE. OKAY. UM, THEN I IMAGINE THAT BEN DOZER IS IN HERE EITHER. THEY HUNG UP WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY. UM, THE NEXT ITEM [D1. HDP-2020-0274 – Offered for consent approval 815 Rutherford Place and 1204 Alta Vista Avenue Council District 9 (Part 1 of 2)] IS EIGHT 15 RUTHERFORD. UM, WE HAVE, I AM YOUNG, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SPEAK SLOWLY AND DISTINCTLY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. UH, KIM, UM, HISTORIC OF YOUR BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT, UH, STATED THAT EIGHT, 16 RATHER PLACE HOUSES AND NOT MEET THE HIGH BAR FOR LANDMARK. ACCORDING TO ONE OF THE OPPOSING NEIGHBORS, THE HOUSES IS FINE, PRETTY BAD CONDITIONS. AFTER MANY YEARS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AFTER WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY. SO ARCHITECTS TO COME UP WITH THE DESIGN THAT WOULD BLEND WELL WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS, WHICH SHE DID. I UNDERSTAND HAVING OPINIONS ON WHAT KIND OF BELIEVE ME. THERE ARE HOUSES MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE OPINIONS, BUT I KEEP IT TO MYSELF. THESE PAST SIX MONTHS, MOST OF US LIVE IN TREMENDOUS FEAR OF LOSING HEALTH, NICE JOB BUSINESS, NOT JUST FOR OUR OWN, BUT FOR OUR LOVED ONES AND BEYOND, I BELIEVE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO PULL EACH OTHER UP IN CHALLENGING TIMES. THERE'S THE SOUND LIBRARY FOR MY BUSINESS. WHAT SHUT DOWN FOR A MONTH ALREADY. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO BE SHUT DOWN FOR ANOTHER MONTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THAT WAS YOUNG. KIM IS WHOM KIM ON THE LINE? NO, NO PROBLEM. HE WILL COME. NO. HELLO? NO, HE'S NO, HE'S NOT GOING TO COME. SHE'S NOT GOING TO COME. OKAY. WE HAVE THE NEXT SPEAKERS ARE OPPOSED. HOLOCAUST [02:00:01] KAUFMAN. ARE YOU ON THE LINE PLEASE? YES. I CAN HEAR YOU. PLEASE SPEAK SLOWLY AND DISTINCTLY FOR THREE MINUTES. UP TO THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I'M PAULA COASTLINE AND ALSO FOCUS ON HOW PRESERVATION INCENTIVE COULD MAKE HOME OWNERSHIP MORE AFFORDABLE AND LIGHT OF OUR CURRENT WITH SESSION AND BURDENSOME HOUSING, CARSON, AUSTIN PRESERVATION COULD BE A SOLUTION FOR SOME OF OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE NEIGHBORS. I'D LIKE TO FIRST READ TO YOU A STATEMENT VOTED ON BY THE SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT ABOUT 5,000 HOUSEHOLDS PRESERVATION DEMOLITION. WE AGREE WITH THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, WHICH ADVISES THAT COMPREHENSIVE, URBAN PLANNING AND DESIGN SHOULD PROTECT HISTORIC AREAS AND HELP MAINTAIN THEIR CHARACTER. HOWEVER, NATURAL LIMITS ARE NOT SUFFICIENT TO DISCOURAGE THE EXTENSIVE DEMOLITION OF RESIDENCES WITHIN THE CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION INCENTIVES SUCH AS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN REGARDS TO 80 YEARS, COUPLED WITH GREATER DENSITY RATHER THAN NEW DEVELOPMENT OR A POSITIVE STEP AND ANOTHER TOOL TO AVOID EXTENSION DEMOLITION. I OPPOSED IT MUCH IN EIGHT MONTHS, I RENT THIS PLACE BECAUSE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS EXPENSIVE. PRESERVATION MIGHT ALLOW THE BUILDER TO EARN MORE PROFIT AND KEEP THE PRICE HERITAGE STREET. YOU CAN AFFORD NEW BUILDS AND TRAVIS HEIGHTS THAT'S DIMINISHING, DIMINISHING THE ECONOMIC DIVERSITY THAT WE NOW ENJOY MAINTENANCE GRANTS WOULD HELP GIVE THESE VINTAGE TRUMPS YEARS OF SHELTER. THE TAX CREDITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PRESERVATION OF BINGES TRUMPS MIGHT HELP HOME OWNERS AFFORD TO STAY HERE. EVEN AFTER RETIREMENT. THE DEVELOPER COULD BENEFIT FROM A LARGER MARKET LENDERS, CONSIDER THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN. WHEN DETERMINING WHAT HOMES A BORROWER CAN AFFORD, THE DEVELOPER MIGHT SELL FASTER THAN AS IF HE WERE TO START FROM SCRATCH HIGH HOLDING COSTS PASS ON TO THE BUYER. SECOND, I OPPOSE THE DEMOLITION OF THE SECOND HOME ON THE SAME LOT. IT CURRENTLY RENT FOR $1,300 A MONTH. IT'S AFFORDABLE WITHOUT A SUBSIDY. THIS INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTY COULD HELP A NEW OWNERS AFFORD THE RUTHERFORD HOUSE AND PREVENT THIS PLACEMENT OF THE CURRENT TENANT. OUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT OLDER RENTALS THAT ARE RAISED AND REBUILT ARE NEARLY DOUBLE THE RENTAL PRICE. THIS TRANSFORMATION PUSHES MANY OF OUR CHAIRS, NEIGHBORS, SUCH AS MUSICIANS TO COME WALK TO WORK ON SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE. THE FAR OFF NEIGHBORHOODS, EXASPERATING AUSTIN'S TRAFFIC WOES IN SUMMARY, THIS UNIQUE PROPERTY ALLOWS TWO RESIDENTS TO SHARE THE VERY HIGH TAX BURDEN AND THE URBAN CORE. ISN'T THAT THE AFFORDABILITY THAT BOSTON SEE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER THEN? WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANGELA REED. MS. REED, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. UH, DID HE MAKE COMMISSIONERS? UH, I'M ANGELA REED. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M A CHAIR OF THE SRC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND THERE ARE MANY REASONS THAT WE SPEAK AGAINST DEMOLITIONS AS YOU KNOW, THE EFFECTS ON AFFORDABILITY AND DISPLACEMENT AS PAULA JUST TALKED ABOUT AND THE IMPACT DEMOLITIONS HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT. UM, MY COMMENTS TONIGHT WILL BE ON THE FACT THAT GRANTING ASSIMILATION REMOVES THREE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS VOLUNTEERED AND FUNDRAISE FOR FOR THE PAST 15 YEARS. AND WHICH JUST A MONTH AGO WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW. AND, UH, SOME COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING THOUGH, THIS NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT IS THE ALTERNATIVE TO A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH WE FOUND TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO OBTAIN FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE SIZE. SO NEIGHBORS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO BE WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE TRULY INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY AS OUR HOME, AND WHILE I VERY MUCH DISLIKE HAVING TO CONFRONT DEVELOPERS AND GIVE THE BAD NEWS THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNHAPPY WITH THEIR PLANS. I'M ALSO COMPELLED TO SPEAK UP FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN I SEE IT BEING USED AS A COMMODITY, THAT'S TEARING DOWN HOUSES THAT CAN OTHERWISE BE RESTORED. AND INSTEAD FLIPPING THAT PROPERTY FOR A PROFIT, IT'S A BAD BUSINESS MODEL FOR COMMUNITIES IN GENERAL AND FOR HISTORIC COMMUNITIES IN PARTICULAR, AND EVEN NEIGHBORS HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR THIS NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I TALKED WITH MR. KIM, AND HE CONVEYED TO ME THAT NO ONE HAD TOLD HIM THAT THIS PROPERTY HAD ANY HISTORIC VALUE. [02:05:01] AND IT SAID IF IT HAD, HE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE PURCHASED IT. AND HE SAYS, RESTORING THE HOME IS NOT IN HIS BUSINESS MODEL. SO HERE WE ARE. AND NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION IS INTENDED TO EDUCATE AND ALERT RESIDENTS AND DEVELOPERS OF THE HISTORIC VALUE OF THESE HOUSES, ESPECIALLY THESE SMALLER DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH HOUSES THAT AN UNTRAINED EYE MAY PASS OFF AS A TEAR DOWN. WE'RE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE HOUSE AT EIGHT 15 WEATHERFORD, WHICH IS A PRISTINE EXAMPLE OF A TUTOR REVIVAL STYLE, AND WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT IN DEFINING OUR COMMUNITY'S HISTORIC CHARACTER AND TRY HEIGHTS. WE HOPE TO ATTRACT OWNERS WHO WANT TO RESTORE THEIR HOMES, POSSIBLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PRESERVATION TAX CREDIT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW OWNERS TO RE REHABILITATE THEIR PROPERTIES AS RENTALS, WHICH WE WELCOME. AND TRAVIS HEIGHTS, WE HAVE A GOOD RECORD OF WORKING WITH DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY DO CHOOSE TO RESTORE THEIR HOMES, SUPPORTING THEM IN VARIOUS REQUESTS THAT HELPS SAVE A HISTORIC BUILDING FOR EXAMPLE. AND WE HOPE THAT MR. KIM WILL RETHINK HIS PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND WE'RE READY TO WORK WITH HIM WITH RESOURCES IF HE CHOOSES TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. REED, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? OKAY. WE HAVE ONE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS CASE SYSTEM. LAD, ARE YOU ON THE LINE, MR. LAD? I'M NOT HEARING YOUR RESPONSE. UM, SO WE'LL GO ON TO ITEM D THREE 11, 13. I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY KIM WOULD LIKE TO REBUTTAL. SHE'S ENTITLED TO THREE MINUTES FOR THAT GOES TO THE LIKES OF REBUTTAL. OKAY, GO AHEAD, MS. KIM, I STILL GET MY CASE. MS. KIM, YOU MAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A REBUTTAL? NO, I SAID THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE. IS THAT OKAY TO STAFF D THREE 1113 WAS 22ND STREET. UM, TRACY DAMSON DAMRON CASE HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO OCTOBER 26TH. OKAY. SORRY. AND I THINK THAT IS THE LAST OF OUR SPEAKERS. DOES ANY, WE'VE BEEN HERE NOW FOR TWO HOURS GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA AND THE SPEAKERS. UM, WE'LL NOW GO ON TO THE CASES TO THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS, STAFF ITEM ONE. HMM, GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. THE STEVE , EXCUSE ME. ITEM A ONE HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU IN THE PAST, IT HAS THE APPLICANT INFORMED YOU. IT ORIGINALLY CAME UP AS AN APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION IN THE INTERIM. UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT WHO HAS DONE REMARKABLE THINGS TO, UH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ARCHITECTURAL MERIT OF THIS HOUSE. THIS HOUSE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE HOUSES IN THE, OR IT IS ONE OF THE HOUSES IN THE AIR CONDITIONED VILLAGE, WHICH, UH, WAS DEVELOPED IN 1954 AS A TEST CASE FOR THE COST EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFICACY OF CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING FOR, UH, HOUSES THAT WERE AFFORDABLE AND DESIGNED FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. SO THIS HOUSE WAS THE CHRYSLER AIR TEMP HOUSE, UH, WHICH MEANS THE CHRYSLER WAS THE AIR CONDITIONING MANUFACTURER. AND IT WAS DESIGNED BY A LOCAL ARCHITECT WHO HAS, UH, ALSO GREAT SIGNIFICANCE. UM, HIS NAME WAS FRED DAY AND HE WORKED FOR FARRON GRANGER FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. UH, HE DEVELOPED A MID CENTURY MODERN AESTHETIC, WHICH IS APPARENT IN THE HOUSE, UH, THROUGH WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT WHO APPRECIATES THE MID CENTURY CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE. [02:10:01] UH, WE HAVE, OR WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO PRESENT A NEW DESIGN THAT, UH, PRESERVES THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND THE LOOK OF THE HOUSE FROM THE STREET. THE APPLICANT IS NOT INTERESTED IN HISTORIC ZONING AND STAFF IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN, THE SPEC, THE APPLICANT MET WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND MAY, WHICH MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO HIM AS FAR AS A WINDOWS RETAINING, UH, HORIZONTAL LINES, HOW THE THINGS THAT GIVE THIS HOUSE, ITS ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER, WHICH THIS DESIGN THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU DOES. SO STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH NOT PURSUING A HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY AND, UH, RECOMMENDS THAT A UNITED INITIATIVE NOT RECOMMEND AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MR. SADOWSKY, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THIS INITIALLY CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AS A DEMOLITION PERMIT FROM A PHYSICAL POINT OF VIEW. ARE THERE ANY THAT WE NEED TO CLOSE? LIKE IF WE DON'T PROCEED TO START GOING IN THAT WON'T BY DEFAULT RELEASE THE DEMOLITION FORMAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WILL BE A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD THAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO ACCOMPLISH THE NEW DESIGN. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE, UM, YEAH, I JUST, I THINK I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT COMMISSIONER LITTLE JUST SAID. WE DO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE, UH, A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICANTS, UH, PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT WILL BE REVIEWED BY THIS OFFICE, UM, ALONG WITH THE BUILDING PLANS. SO AS LONG AS EVERYTHING IS, UH, AS PROPOSED TODAY, THEN WE STAFF WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON IT. I, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS, UM, WHAT'S BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY THAT THE HOMEOWNER WAS OPPOSED TO HISTORIC ZONING AND WANT TO DEMOLISH IT, I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WAS UNSURE HOW I WAS GONNA FEEL ABOUT IT NOW, SEEING THE RENDERINGS OF IT PRESERVED, LIKE WHY WOULDN'T WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HISTORIC ZONING? THIS IS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, IT KIND OF BACKHANDED A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOW I'M MORE SUPPORTIVE OF HISTORIC ZONING THAN I EVER WAS BEFORE GIVEN THAT THE OWNER CLEARLY WANTS TO DO WHAT I THINK OF AS THE HARD WORK ALREADY. SO, UM, WELL YOU NEED A MOTION ON THE TABLE BEFORE WE BEGIN DISCUSSION. NOPE, THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. ONE THING THAT I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, UM, THE RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS, DO NOT RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING. UM, WHILE WE MAY NOT GO FORWARD WITH HISTORIC ZONING, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A, UM, MOTION THAT WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION MR? WELL, I THINK THESE ARE ALWAYS FRAUGHT WITH SOME RISKS. UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT FROM THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED AND THE APPROACH THAT BOTH STAFF AND THE OWNER ARE TAKING THAT, UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, DROPPING THE INITIATION OF ZONING MAKES SENSE. AND SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH, SUSPEND THE REQUEST FOR ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT EITHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE, IF THE OWNER CHANGES THEIR MIND, THAT IT COULD BE RE REINSTATED, UH, OR THAT AT A FUTURE DATE OR EVEN A FUTURE OWNER WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT APPLICATION. IS THAT A SATISFACTORY MOTION ON MR. SEDOWSKY? I THINK SO. I THINK, UH, IF I COULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, BUT WE HAVE A CLEANER, MOST OF MOTION THAT INDICATES, UH, THE REAL ACTION HERE [02:15:01] INSTEAD OF SUSPENDING, UH, THIS WILL REQUIRE A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT WAS THE TOTAL DEMOLITION. AND YOU INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING. IF YOU ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AT THIS POINT, THEN, UH, I THINK THE MOTION, THE BETTER MOTION MIGHT BE TO RECOMMEND AGAINST A SCORING ZONING AT THIS TIME, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING TO THE APPLICANT THAT, UH, AS I, AS I SAID BEFORE, IF THE PARTIAL DEMO AND BUILDING PLANS, DON'T COMPORT TO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE, THAT THE ACTION COULD BE REOPENED. LET ME SEE IF I COULD TAKE A STAB AT IT WHERE, WHAT THE MOTION WOULD STATE WOULD BE THAT WE, UM, DENY THE APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION, THAT WE REPLACED THAT WITH A PARTIAL DEMOLITION APPROVAL PENDING STAFF REVIEW AND THAT THE INITIATION OF THE HISTORIC ZONING ON THE PROPERTY BE, UM, WITHDRAWN. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION, MR. MCWHORTER, ARE YOU OFFERING A SECOND? OKAY. MISS COMMISSIONER, SECOND SET MOTION. NOW IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND MY, UH, RECOGNIZED COMMISSIONER COOK. YEAH. YOU'D LIKE TO, EVERYONE WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE. IT SEEMS AN APPROPRIATE PROCESS WOULD BE WITHDRAWAL OF THE FULL DEMOLITION APPLICATION BY THE APPLICANT TO TERMINATE THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DENY A DEMOLITION PERMIT. WE ONLY HAVE THE POWER TO RECOMMEND ZONING, WHICH WE'RE NOT ALSO DOING. SO I DON'T SEE THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING, ANY MOTION IN OUR POWER THAT WOULD SOLIDIFY THE DIRECTION. THIS CASE HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO GO. AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE THE APPLICANT. IF IT SHOULD BE THE APPLICANT, THAT'S GOING TO BE WITHDRAWING THEIR DEMOLITION PERMIT TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL. AND THEN RESUBMIT AS A PARTIAL, THAT THEN COULD BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET OUT OF THIS MEETING WITHOUT CALLING A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE THE 45 DAYS OR UP TO SOLIDIFY THAT. AND I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I DON'T COMMISSIONER. I THINK THE, UH, YOU, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE COMMISSION, UH, THE COMMISSION'S ACTION IS TO EITHER APPROVE A DEMOLITION PERMIT OR DENY IT. AND THE DENIAL OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WOULD BE THE INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING. SO THE ACCIDENT OF THE COMMISSION, UH, IS NOW SINCE THE CASE HAS BEEN INITIATED IS WHETHER OR NOT TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING. AND THEN THE CASE GOES ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, THE CLEANEST MOTION IS TO, UH, IS TO NOT RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, BUT IN THE DICTA TO INDICATE TO THE APPLICANT THAT, UH, WE DO EXPECT TO SEE A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANS BEFORE US TODAY OR THE CASE COULD COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION. AND THAT'S JUST THE UNDERSTANDING I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GET ACROSS. THAT SEEMS A LITTLE, UH, RISKY TO ME WAS THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW. UM, IF WE RECOMMEND AND LINDSAY GOES TO PLANNING DURING THAT TIME, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW, UH, IF WE RECOMMEND TONIGHT, UH, AND HE GOES TO PLANNING COMMISSION. SURE. YEAH. THE, UH, APPLICANT CAN ALWAYS WITHDRAW. I THINK THEY PUT IT ON THEM. AND IF THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWS, DOES THAT TERMINATE THE RECOMMENDATION OR DOES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEVELS OF, OF HIGHER APPROVAL? NO. ONCE, ONCE YOU ALL RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, IT BECOMES A ZONING CASE THAT THEN GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, AND IF THERE'S A SUPER MAJORITY AT EITHER THE HLC OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WOULD GO ON TO THE COUNCIL COMMISSIONER, BE ABLE TO WITHDRAW AND THEN REAPPLY WITH THE PARTIAL, RIGHT? YES. BUT EVEN IF THEY [02:20:01] WITHDRAW THE RECOMMENDATION STANDS AND THAT GOES THROUGH AS A SEPARATE ZONING CASE, NOT RELATED TO THE DEMOLITION APPLICATION. RIGHT. RIGHT. ONCE YOU ALL RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, THEN IT PROCEEDS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL, REGARDLESS OF THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWING IN THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. THAT'S RIGHT. I MEAN, GENERALLY FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, WHEN, IF THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWS THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, THE CASE IS USUALLY THAT THAT FACT ISN'T MADE KNOWN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND IF IT MAKES IT TO THE COUNCIL, TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL, COMMISSIONER, YOU HAD A QUESTION COMING UP. ARE WE, ARE WE OUT OF TIME OR IS IT, IS IT, CAN WE NOT POSTPONE THIS FOR ONE MONTH? AND WITH THE IDEA THAT HE WOULD DURING THAT MONTH POSTPONEMENT, HE WAS DRAWS HIS DEMOLITION PERMIT. ARE WE OUT OF TIME ON THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO? I THINK WITH THE APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENTS, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE, BUT I THINK WE HAVE 35 DAYS FROM THE INITIATION TO MAKE THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION AFTER WHICH THAT TIME'S OUT AND THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WOULD BE RELEASED. SO IT WOULD BE TWO MORE WEEKS RIGHT NOW IT'S 75 DAYS FROM THE FIRST TIME IT'S ON THE COMMISSION'S AGENDA, BUT DON'T WE 45 DAYS FROM THE OPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE INITIATION. NO, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE 14 IF THE, UH, IF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. OKAY. I'M HEARING IN GENERAL, A CONSIDERATION THAT WE POST THAT WE POSTPONE THE CASE AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO WITHDRAW THE TOTAL DEMOLITION. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND SOMEONE ELSE CAN MAKE ONE TO MAKE THAT GOOD. THE MOTION THAT WAS A COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER. WAS IT NOT, WILL YOU WITHDRAW THAT AS WELL? OKAY. CAN WE GET A, UM, CAN WE GET A NEW MOTION ON THE CASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS WITHDRAWAL DEMOLITION PERMIT AND THEN REVISIT IT NEXT MONTH. DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER REPORTERS, SECONDS. THE MOTION. OKAY. THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS TO POSTPONE IT ONE MORE MONTH AND GIVE THE, UH, GIVE THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHDRAW THE ORIGINAL, UH, APPLICATION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ARE WE 100% SURE THIS IS NOT GOING TO DEFACTO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. I GOT 100% CERTAIN ON THAT TIMELINE. I MEAN, FROM THE PROPOSAL, I WAS LIKE, LET'S JUST DO HER VEGETABLES AND RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY SURE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT ON THAT TIMELINE COMMISSIONER FEATHERS. SO I THINK YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION ABOUT WHY NOT GO FORWARD WITH THE HISTORIC ZONING, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY WITH THE APPLICANT. AND HE, UM, HE WAS VERY WILLING TO MAKE COMPROMISES AND OUR VOTE ISN'T CONTINGENT UPON THAT, BUT WE FELT THAT IT WAS A GOOD FAITH, UM, THAT HIS WAS A GOOD FAITH OFFER. AND WE WANTED TO HONOR THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPLETELY CONFIDENT THAT THAT'S OUR, WE DON'T HAVE A CLOCK THAT'S GOING TO RUN OUT AND THE FACT THAT A RELEASE DEMOLITION PERMIT. OKAY. UM, CAN YOU SHARE HINDSIGHT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I'M CHECKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. SORRY. WE'VE GOT SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES HERE. THAT'S TAKING ME A LITTLE LONGER. UM, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS PERHAPS WE TABLE THIS, UH, TO ALLOW ME TO CHECK ON THAT AND WE TAKE UP ITEM EIGHT AND BY THE TIME WE GET THROUGH THAT ONE, I WILL HAVE AN ANSWER AS TO, UH, IF WE'RE RUNNING UP AGAINST A DEADLINE. OKAY. UM, [02:25:02] MADAM CHAIRMAN, MY MICROPHONE, THIS IS BARRY WILLIAMSON. I'M THE APPLICANT. YES, SIR. WE PLAN TO DO A LOT OF BUSINESS IN AUSTIN. AND WHEN WE TELL YOU WE'RE GOING TO DO STUFF, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. STEVE AND I ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER A LONG TIME AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID. AND I UNDERSTAND WE PUT YOU GUYS AT A LITTLE DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE IF, IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO YOU GUYS, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. WE GET, WE GET POURED OUT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. IF WE WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T DO THAT. WE'RE GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID. WE WILL DO A PO ROLE. WILL WE WILL PULL OUR PERMIT. WE'LL DO IT. WE'LL FOLLOW A PARTIAL PERMIT AND WE'LL WORK WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE HE SITS SATISFIED AND HAPPY WITH WHAT WE BUILD. SO THAT'S OUR COMMENT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMISSION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID WE TOASTED TO DO. I APPRECIATE THAT MR. WILLIAMSON, WHAT IS THE PLEASURE? UM, COMMISSIONER COOK. I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF TO CLARIFY THAT IF WE PROCEED WITH THIS POSTPONEMENT, THAT THE APPLICANT STILL HAS THE OPTION OF WITHDRAWING THEIR FULL DEMOLITION APPLICATION TOMORROW. AND THEN WE CAN MAKE OUR FINAL DECISION IN A MONTH AND THAT SH AND HE CAN RE REISSUE IT AS A PARTIAL. AND THE ONE MONTH DELAY SHOULD NOT REALLY IMPACT THEIR PROCESS IF THAT'S, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES. OH, YOU'RE MUTED. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SO WHY DON'T WE TABLE IT UNTIL HE COMES BACK WITH THE DEFINITIVE WORD AND THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. ARE WE GOOD? DO WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT 10 O'CLOCK? WE DID. WE DO HAVE A HARD STOP AT 10 O'CLOCK. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE BACK YOURS SECOND? YES. SO LET US TABLE THIS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO IT WHEN MR. SEDOWSKY HAS AN ANSWER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING ON TO, UH, D TWO [A2. HDP-2020-0231 – 2609 San Pedro Street – Discussion] 26 OH NINE SAN PEDRO STREET, MS. CONTRERAS, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I DO A GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONER. THAT ITEM IS A PROPOSAL FOR DEMOLITION OF THE HOUSE, THE 2,609 SAN PEDRO STREET. THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE YOU, UH, IN AUGUST, THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED AS A DUPLEX THAT A HIT TRUE HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING AND SIX OVER SIX WOOD WINDOWS. IT WAS BUILT IN 1935 AS A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR MEDICAL, JUST BEING DRAPER, DANIEL. AND BY 1944, IT SERVED AS HER PRIMARY RESIDENCE. AFTER THE DEATH OF HER HUSBAND WHO FOUNDED THE TEXAS MEDICAL JOURNAL, DANIEL EDITED AND PUBLISHED THE JOURNAL, UH, AND HIS EDITOR. SHE SUBTLY INTRODUCED THE JOURNALS AUDIENCE WHO WERE PREDOMINANTLY MALE PHYSICIANS TO EARLY TENANTS OF FEMINISM AND HEALTHCARE, WHICH WAS PRETTY MUCH UNHEARD OF AT THE TIME. DANIEL ALSO OPENLY CONTRADICTED THE GENESIS POSITIONS ESPOUSED BY HER LATE HUSBAND AND HIS COLLEAGUES AT THE JOURNAL. SHE WROTE FRANKLY, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WOMEN'S HEALTH AND REPRODUCTIVE EDUCATION. AND WHEN SHE SOLD THE JOURNAL IN 1929, SHE DEVOTED HER TIME TO HEALTH AND LITERACY ADVOCACY IN AUSTIN WHILE ALSO MANAGING A BIOLOGICAL LABORATORY. DANIEL SERVED AS A STATE BOARD MEMBER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN ITS EARLY DAYS, A BOARD MEMBER OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS, AND WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE AUSTIN ALTRUSA CLUB. THE CHARITY ORGANIZATION COMPRISED OF WOMEN PROFESSIONALS AMONG OTHERS THAT HAVE SEEN ITS ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT ENCOURAGES THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE AND ITS ASSOCIATION WITH JUST DRIPPER FOR DANIEL, SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE NOT TO RECOMMEND LANDMARK DESIGNATION, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, ENCOURAGING RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION THAN COMPLETION OF A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE BEFORE RELEASE OF THE PERMIT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION? DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE [02:30:04] FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION, I WILL MOVE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING. DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. IT COMMISSIONER REED HAD RAISED HER HAND COMMISSIONER REED, UM, AT IT. DO I HEAR A DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? UM, I'M ON THE FENCE ON THIS ONE, I AM SOMEWHAT MOVED BY THE CONDITION REPORTS MOST SO, MORE SO THAN USUAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS AGAINST OWNER'S WISHES. I'M A LITTLE BOTHERED BY THE EMERGENCY REPAIR OF THE BALCONY AND THE FRONT DOOR, BOTH OF WHICH ARE PRETTY BIG PLAYERS. AND AS FAR AS KEY CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES THAT IN THE STREET VIEW, UH, ARE PRETTY PROMINENT AND DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE IN BAD SHAPE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND GUESS THE PROCESS AS TO HOW THE DOOR GOT PULLED IN THE BALCONY HE GOT REPLACED, UH, WITHOUT THIS LEVEL OF REVIEW. BUT THAT SAID, THAT DOES ADD TO MY, MY CONCERN ABOUT THE QUALITY OF APPLICATION BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF THOSE FEATURES. UM, I HAVE CONCERNS, THIS IS MY MOTION, BUT, UM, I, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE OF APPLICATIONS FOR LANDMARKS ASSOCIATED WITH WOMEN. WHO'VE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO AUSTIN'S HISTORY, BUT I THINK THERE MAY BE BETTER EXAMPLES THAT HAVE MORE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY. UM, AND THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT ON THIS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, SIMILAR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT RETAINS INTEGRITY IS OUR CRITERIA. AND I THINK IT VERY STRONGLY, THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION CRITERIA ARCHITECTURE IS NICE, BUT I THINK THE PHOTOS MAKE IT DOES HAVE INTEGRITY ISSUES AND THE FACETS, THE BROKEN PEDIMENT OVER THAT PROMINENT WINDOW IS YOU CAN STILL SEE IT IN THE PAINT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN REMOVED AND MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT HAS MORE INTEGRITY THAN IT DOES THAT. HAVING THAT WINDOWS AROUND AND THE DOOR SURROUND REMOVES ARE PROBLEMATIC. I AGREE. I THINK THIS HAS STRONG HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS THAT WOULD WARRANT LANDMARK CONSIDERATION. IF WE ONLY HAD TO MEET ONE CRITERIA, I THINK THE, THE ARCHITECTURAL, UM, INTEGRITY IS LACKING IN THIS, IN THIS RESOURCE. DO I HEAR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR THE REASON OR REASONS EVERYONE ELSE HAS STATED. I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A NICE TIME TO ASK FOR A PLAQUE, YOU KNOW, TO TELL THE STORY OF A LADY WHO LIVED HERE AND, UM, CONTRIBUTED TO MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE, JUST TO REALLY ASK. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT MOTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING HISTORIC DESIGNATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED. RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. OKAY. DO I HEAR A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? WAS THAT SOMEONE ELSE STARTING? THIS IS KAREN. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET NOTES THAT I WAS WONDERING WHAT'S THE COUNCIL AND WHO WAS EITHER OPPOSED OR, OR FOUR ON THE SMALLEST NUMBER. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE VOTED FOR IT. EVERYONE VOTED AGAINST IT. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. NOW, UH, COMMISSIONER MOVED THAT WE RELEASED THE PERMIT UPON AWESOME DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, CONSISTING OF PHOTOGRAPHS, LONG HISTORY FOR CLAPPING AT THE AUSTIN WAS THAT COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER WHO SECONDED COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. OKAY. COMMISSIONER COOK MADE THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT AND WITH THE DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO, UM, INCLUDE THE INFORMATION THAT STAFF [02:35:01] PRESENTED, UM, MS. UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. UH, SECOND TO THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. IT WAS UNANIMOUS IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. PASS UNANIMOUSLY TO NOT RECOMMEND IT. OKAY. WHAT DO WE HAVE? 600 TO [B3. HR-2020-125268 – Discussion 602 Highland Avenue (Smoot/Terrace Park Historic District) Council District 9] BE THREE, 600 TO MY HIGHLAND. WE HAD MULTIPLE SPEAKERS, THE, UH, APPLICANTS PRESENTED. UM, I DO WE HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION? YES. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS KARA. AND THE PROPOSAL HERE, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE SPEAKERS IS TO CONSTRUCT A SECOND FOR VEER EDITION AND A DETACHED SIDE CARPORT. YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE. IT'S ONE STORY WITH A FULL BASEMENT RECTANGULAR PLAN. AND WE PROPOSE SECOND FLOOR ADDITION IS SETBACK 27 FEET FROM THE FRONT WALL OF THE HISTORIC HOUSE. THAT'S THE FIRST WALL WAS EDITION. THE EDITION HAS A FRONT GABLED ROOF AND WOOD CLADDING TO MATCH EXISTING AS WELL AS CASEMENT AND SIXTH QUAD WOOD WINDOWS. UM, BUT ALSO NOTCH EXISTING. THERE'S A RESPECT SET INTO THE SOUTH SLOPE OF THE, UH, GABLE ROOF OF THE HISTORIC HALF, SEVEN FEET FROM THE FRONT WALL. AND IT HAS SERVED ONTO A STEEL RAILINGS. THE SECOND PART OF THE PROPOSAL IS A DETACHED STEEL FRAMED CARDBOARD. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SIDE OF THE SEMESTER WITH A STEEL SHADE STRUCTURE AND THE CARPET WILL BE LOCATED NEXT TO THE SOUTH WALL OF THE HOUSE AND PROTRUDE JUST PAST THE FRONT WALL, THE UPSIDE WE GIVE THE NEXT DAY FROM THERE, THE STAFF HAVE YOU FOUND THAT THE SECOND STORY ADDITION MEETS THIS TERRACE PARK HAS DIRECT DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS FOR COMPATIBILITY, WITH SCALE MASSING AND MATERIALS BEING SUBORDINATE TO THE HISTORIC BUILDING, PARTICULARLY IT'S NEARLY 30 FOOT SETBACK AND AVOIDANCE OF REMOVAL OR OBSTRUCTION OF EXTERIOR FEATURES ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING OR SIDES WITHIN 15 FOOT OF THE 15 FEET OF THE FRONT STAFF FEELS THAT THE PROPOSED NEW CARPORT DOES NOT MEET ALL THE STANDARDS. PARTICULARLY AT SETBACK. THEY SAID THE CORPORATE IS LOCATED BASICALLY A LITTLE BIT IN FRONT OF THE FRONT WALL OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS ATYPICAL FOR UGLY STRUCTURES IN THE DISTRICT WITH CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS. THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE PROJECT TWICE AND MADE A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS. THESE ARE REFLECTED IN THE PROPOSED DESIGN AND THE COMMITTEE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT BEING APPROVED. DEF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE ADDITION AND ROOF DECK PLANS. AND TO REQUEST THAT THE CARPORT DESIGN BE RESUBMITTED WITH A SETBACK THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DISTRICTS CONTRIBUTING OF EARLY BUILDINGS. THE DESIGN OF THE CAR PORT IS COMPATIBLE, BUT ITS LOCATION IS NOT ANY QUESTIONS. AM I MISSING DESIGNS FOR THE CARD FOR IT? I'M NOT SEEING ANYWHERE PROVIDED. I DON'T, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON EITHER. IT'S SHOWN ON THE ELA ON THE ELEVATIONS. IT'S A VERY LIGHT STEEL STRUCTURE, VERY LIGHT, VERY MINIMAL STEEL STRUCTURE. THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL THEY GAVE US. OKAY. BUT IT DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THE RENDERINGS COMMISSIONER, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, STAFF. UM, THE SETBACK OF 15 FEET DOES, IT'S HARD TO TELL FROM THE PLAN, BUT IT'S THAT ROOF DECK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S THE THAT'S SO FAR BACK BECAUSE IT'S THE, IT'S THE MAIN STRUCTURE, BUT THE ADDITION IS FURTHER BACK, BUT HOW FAR DOES THAT ROOF DECK ACTUALLY START FROM THE MAIN FACADE? THE RESPECT STARTS SEVEN FEET BACK FROM THE FRONT WALL OF THE HOUSE. SEVEN FEEDBACK. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S MORE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT I THOUGHT. AND I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF. UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ABOUT, UM, THEY APPROVAL OF NETTLE [02:40:01] PLANTERS. AND WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THAT WASN'T ON OUR PLANS WHEN WE REVIEWED THAT LAST YEAR. IS THAT CORRECT? THE, I BELIEVE THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS DON'T HAVE ANY STANDARDS FOR LANDSCAPING. UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WE ENCOURAGE APPLICANTS TO HAVE, TO GET HISTORICAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF PERMANENT LANDSCAPING FEATURES. UM, AND THERE'S SOME GRAY AREA THERE AS TO WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S PRETTY PERMANENT. AND, UM, IT, IT VIRTUALLY IS VIRTUALLY, UM, AN ADDITION ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. UH, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR IN CASE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO SEE, UM, SEE THAT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY. IT WOULDN'T BE AN ADDITION. WOULDN'T BE AN ADDITION IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THAT IT WOULD BE A SITE IMPROVEMENT, UM, AND THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, BUT THE RECOMMENDATION FOR SITE IMPROVEMENT FOR NEW PERMIT LANDSCAPE FEATURES IS TO CONSIDER AVOIDING AN INSTALLATION OF NEW PERMANENT LANDSCAPE FEATURES THAT WOULD HAVE SKEWED A HISTORIC FEATURES OF THE BUILDING. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GARY, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE COMMISSIONER I MOVED, UH, AND WENT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVED THE ADDITIONAL PLANS AND REQUEST THAT THE CAR PORT DESIGN BE RESUBMITTED WITH A SETBACK. IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT ONE COMMISSIONER COOK SECONDS THAT TO APPROVE THE PLANS WITH THIRD STORY ADDITION AND THE ROOFTOP DECK WITH THE, WITH THE CURRENT PORT LOCATION TO BE RESUBMITTED, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COOK. YEAH, IT WAS MADE AS THIS DOES PUSH THE BOUNDARIES. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS NOTED, UM, NOTED BY THE SPEAKERS, BUT I AM VERY BIG ON THE WORD OF THE STANDARDS AND APPLYING THE STANDARDS. EXACTLY. THOSE ARE A PRODUCT OF NEGOTIATION TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN OFF ONTO THIS. THERE ARE LOTS OF NUANCE IN IT OF WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT IS RESTRICTED. HE DID NOT FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THEY ARE JUST THAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE IS A LOT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S ADDED WITHIN ALL OF THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF THE STANDARDS. YOU CAN'T CONVEY SQUARE FOOTAGE AS MASSING. WE DON'T EVALUATE THE BASEMENT EDITION. THE LANDSCAPING IS PROMINENT, BUT IT'S JUST THAT LANDSCAPING. AND IT VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS TO THE LANDSCAPING. THE UPPER STORY DECK IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. AND SO I, I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S LOCATION MATTERS. SO ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS, IF WE ARE TO APPLY THE STANDARDS OBJECTIVELY, I CANNOT SEE ANYTHING THAT IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE STANDARDS, COMMISSIONER HIMSELF. I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WITH ONE EXCEPTION. AND I THINK THAT THE DECK, AND IT WAS MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR IT, BUT EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE BEHIND THE RIDGE, AS SOON AS YOU PUT ANY FURNITURE ON IT OR ANY ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE ON IT, YOU WILL NOTICE. AND SO I WOULD BE INCLINED IF THAT MIGHT BE THE WAY THIS IS GOING TO APPROVE THE MOTION SO LONG AS WE ALSO EXCLUDED THE FRONT DECK, I THINK THE HEIGHT IS GREAT, BUT I THINK THEY DID FOLLOW THE GUY THAT THE OVERALL GUIDELINES. UM, I DO ALSO HAVE RESERVATIONS WHEN SOMEONE SHOWS US THE PERSPECTIVES, NOT IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN THE PROJECT, BUT MAYBE TO HIDE SOME ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT. SO I'M NOT VERY HAPPY WITH SOME OF THAT. THERE WAS A LOT OF SURROUNDING CONTEXT THAT'S DELIBERATELY MISSING, BUT I DO THINK THAT BY THE TIME IT'S FINISHED IN THAT LOCATION, I THINK THE, UH, THE SENSITIVITY THAT AT LEAST STYLISTICALLY WAS MADE, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THIS WORK, BUT I THINK THAT THE DECK COMMENTS I'M RESPONDING TO, AND THEN THEY VIOLATE THE 15 FEET SETBACK FROM THE FRONT THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE, YEAH, THAT'D BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION, THE MAKER, OR ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT. [02:45:05] HE SHAKING IT. CAN YOU CLARIFY, THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE JUST A PULL THE RESET BACK, IS THAT THE APPROVAL, BUT NOT WITH THE ROOF DECK, THE FRONT ROOF DECK THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROVED, BUT I WAS NOT ACCEPTED. SO I'M NOT MAKING IT AS A FORMAL AMENDMENT YET. I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT TO BE WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WILL STILL, THERE IS STILL ROOM FOR A ROOF DECK WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. SO I WOULD AMEND THAT TO PULL THAT BACK, TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF 15 FEET FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE. I'LL ACCEPT THAT AS A COMPROMISE, I WOULD, I WOULD APPROVE THAT AMENDMENT. OKAY. SO THE MOTION OF THE MAKER OF THE MOTION HAS AGREED. AND THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION HAS AGREED TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE ROOF DECK TO BE PULLED BACK 15 FEET FROM THE FRONT IS THIS RIGHT? SEVEN FEET, EIGHT FEET. IT WOULD BE ANOTHER EIGHT FEET BACK. UM, THAT'S THE MOTION. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANTS, WHEN THEY CAME TO US FOR THE, UM, TO BUILD OUT THE BASEMENT, UM, DID SO DISINGENUOUSLY, UH, TO GET A THIRD OF A FULL BASEMENT STORY AND GET A THIRD STORY ON THIS. AND I OPPOSE, UH, THE PRECEDENT OF THE ROOF DECK AT ALL IN THIS DISTRICT. JUST TO CLARIFY, I JUST WANTED TO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION IS REALLY CONSIDERING THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE, UM, SECOND FLOOR ADDITION IN THEIR COURT, NOT THE FAR OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT. YEAH, I'M STILL GOING TO OPPOSE IT. I THINK IT'S, WHAT'S WITHIN YOUR JURISDICTION. I THINK IT'S INCOMPATIBLE. I THINK THE MASSING IN SIZE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THIS DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION EITHER. UM, I THINK WE TRY TO WORK WITH HISTORIC BUILDING OWNERS AND GIVE THEM ROOM TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS. BUT I FEEL LIKE IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE PUSHING IT TOO FAR WITH A LARGE ADDITION AND THE RISKS THAT I CAN SEE THE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SIZE OF THE EDITION IS NOT SUBORDINATE. THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH THOSE FOUR FRONT FACING GABLES. I, I THINK THAT THE SCALE AND THE MASS MUCH TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THAT IS FOR A BUILDING. SO I DON'T HAVE TO PUT THE MOTION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I AGREE, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE JUST ELOQUENTLY DESCRIBED, AND I WILL ALSO NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THE MOTION. DO WE NEED TO RE STATE THE MOTION OR IS EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT'S IN FAVORITES, FEATHERSTON, HEIN, SETH MCWHORTER COOK, AND JACOB, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED OR MYERS TO LET READ AND LITTLE, I THINK THE MOTION PASSES. IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF. OKAY. COMMISSIONER REED, WHAT DID YOU SAY? WE NEED SIX. I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAD FIVE, BUT WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, FOUR. WE HAVE FIVE. UM, WE HAD A MAJORITY FIVE, BUT WE NEED SIX, RIGHT? MAJORITY OF THE WHOLE COMMISSION NOT. OKAY. UM, THEN DO I HAVE A, UM, SUBSTITUTE MOTION? WE COULD ALSO POSTPONE THIS. THERE, THERE IS SOME CONSIDERATION THAT, UM, UM, THERE, THOSE IN OPPOSITION HAVE ASKED FOR SOME, UM, INTERPRETATION BY THE BUILDING OR CODE [02:50:01] INSPECTIONS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ASKED ME FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE COMMISSION. WHATEVER IS DECIDED IS NOT WITHIN THE COMMISSION JURISDICTION ON IF THEY ARE JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER, JUST TO MAKE SURE. I JUST, UH, I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT IN OUR JURISDICTION, BUT IT MIGHT GIVE SOME TIME TO, TO GET THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US. UM, ANYONE, UM, I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IN THE ABSENCE OF ANOTHER ONE. I MOVED TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT AGENDA IN OCTOBER COMMISSIONER, HANDSET SECONDS, THE MOTION. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO IT? I THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S OUR ONLY OPTION TO GET TO A RESOLUTION WITH A DIFFERENT MAKEUP AND THEN THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS DECISION TO POSTPONE CAME, MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. [A1. HDP-2020-0214 – 2502 Park View Drive – Discussion (Part 2 of 2)] ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO, I HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR A ONE GOING BACK TO AWAN. SO COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SITTING AT 63 DAYS. SO POSTPONEMENT IS NOT AN OPTION. OKAY. WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE? WELL, MAY I, MAY I ASK A STAFF WHERE ARE WE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THEN WITHIN THE NEXT PERIOD, THE OWNER COULD WITHDRAWAL THEIR DEMOLITION AND REPLACE IT WITH THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION, BUT YOU COULD NOT RELEASE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION WHILE THE MOTION FOR PRESERVATION STATUS WAS PENDING. IS THAT CORRECT? OR WOULD YOU, COULD YOU ADMINISTRATIVELY STILL DO A PARTIAL DEMOLITION? IF, IF THE TOLL WAS WITHDRAWN, IF THE FULL OR THE APPLICATION PROPOSED DEMOLITION IS WITHDRAWN, UH, THE APPLICATION FOR PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND BUILDING PERMIT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE REQUIRED TO BE TOGETHER WOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. SO IT'S ONLY IF YOU ALL RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING TONIGHT. IT IS ONLY WHEN THE HISTORIC ZONING, UH, IS NO LONGER IN PLAY THAT AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL WOULD, UH, WOULD BE AUTHORIZED. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO POSTPONE FOR ONE WEEK WITH THE NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING? IF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT IS NOT WITHDRAWN IN THAT ONE WEEK, AND IF IT IS WITHDRAWN TODD, THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY TERMINATE COMMISSIONER, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, GIVEN THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE ARE NO SPECIALTY CALLED MEETINGS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WELL, IF EVERYTHING GOES AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE PUT A UNDUE BURDEN ON THE OWNER BY PASSING ON, UH, A, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, THAT COULD BE RECONSIDERED. AND, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE AWKWARD. I HAVE TO ADMIT IF WE PASS THIS ON AND THEN THEY WITHDRAW THE FULL DEMOLITION, APPLY FOR A PARTIAL AND SHOW US THAT THEY NEED A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS OR, UH, NO, I SHOULD SAY THEY JUST NEED APPROVAL FOR THE PERMIT AND THEY WOULD GET IT AS SOON AS WE WITHDREW THE RECOMMENDATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING. NOW, THE OTHER HAPPY THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THAT THE OWNER COULD LOOK AT THE BENEFITS OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY. UH, THE DESIGNATION HAS BENEFITS WITH IT AND DECIDED THAT IT WASN'T SUCH A BAD IDEA AFTER ALL, DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME. AND WE COULD SEE THE WHOLE THING MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR SUPPORT, BUT I'M SURE I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION FOR POSTPONEMENT. [02:55:01] AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, IF WE, IF WE, IF WE RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING ON THIS AGE, IT'S COMPLETELY OUT OF OUR HANDS. AT THAT POINT. WE DON'T GET TO LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. IT GOES ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING IT'S CLIMATE INFORMATION. WE CAN'T STOP IT. I DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE WE THINK WE'D LIKE TO STOP IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M CONCERNED ALSO THIS, THIS, ONCE THIS LEAVES OUR HANDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE, I COULD, I COULD SUPPORT TO JUST, UH, JUST TAKING THE RECOMMENDATION OFF. UH, I'M GOING TO LET TRUST TRUST MR. WILLIAMS. I, UM, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU AND I FEEL IN THIS CASE THAT I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT IT WOULD IS NOT ELIGIBLE, BUT I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S PLAN TO REHABILITATE THE BUILDING AND RESERVE THE RIGHT IN THE FUTURE TO RECONSIDER HISTORIC ZONING. I COULD CHECK IT. CAN WE CONSIDER THAT EMOTION IN A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. WE ARE GOING TO, UH, TRUST THE APPLICANT TO GO FORWARD WITH HIS INCIDENT PLAN TO REHABILITATE THE HOUSE, RESERVING THE OPTION, THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE TO REDUCE IT HISTORIC ZONING. AND THAT WAS THE UNANIMOUS VOTE. IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE. GREAT. THANK YOU. IT'S I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BELIEVE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN BURNED IN THE PAST AVIDLY. SO I FEEL THAT THE APPLICANT OF REALLY DID MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES AND LISTEN TO THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT. AND I, AND I FEEL FAIRLY ASSURED THAT HE WILL GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND HONOR THOSE PLANS GOING ON. UM, WE HAVE THE MILLER [B5. C14H-1982-0004 – Discussion Miller-Searight House, 5400 Freidrich Lane Council District 2] C WRIGHT HOUSE AT 54 FRIEDRICH LANE. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. THE APPLICANT WANTS TO REPLACE ALL OF THE WINDOWS, VINYL WINDOWS. YES, COMMISSIONERS. UH, THIS IS A CASE FOR WINDOW REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE. AND THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A WINDOW SURVEY THAT INDICATES THAT THERE ARE, UH, SOME WINDOWS THAT ARE TOO FAR GONE TO BE REPLACED AND OTHERS THAT, UH, THAT COULD BE REHABBED AND LEFT IN PLACE RE REPAIRED AND REHABBED. SO THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO FOLLOW THE WINDOW SURVEY THAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSE AND FOR ANY WINDOWS THAT ARE TOO FAR GONE TO BE REPLACED, OR THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED, THAT CANNOT BE REPAIRED. THEN THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED IN KIND RATHER THAN WITH A VINYL WINDOW. ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, TO REPLACE ONLY THOSE WINDOWS THAT CANNOT BE REPAIRED AND THAT IF THE WINDOWS ARE REPLACED, THEY BE REPLACED IN KIND WITH WOOD WINDOWS, COMMISSIONER COOK. SOME OF DO I HEAR A SECOND COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE SECONDS, THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UH, WHAT DO WE HAVE? [03:00:02] I THINK WE'RE MOVING ALONG HERE. UH, THE, UM, THE NEXT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION IS, UM, EIGHT 15 RATHER FOR [D1. HDP-2020-0274 – Offered for consent approval 815 Rutherford Place and 1204 Alta Vista Avenue Council District 9 (Part 2 of 2)] PLACE AND 1204 ALTA VISTA AVENUE. I WANT TO NOTE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS HERE, THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE PROPERTIES. UH, ALL OF THEM ARE CONTRIBUTING THIS HOUSE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN BEFORE YOU IS EIGHT, 15 RUTHERFORD BEHIND IT, UH, IS ANOTHER HOUSE ON THE SAME LOT THAT FACES ALTAVISTA. AND THERE IS A CONTRIBUTING GARAGE. UH, THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UH, 1204 ULTRA VISTA ADDRESS. THERE ALL THREE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT STAFF. YES. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. UH, THIS IS A, AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH THE TWO HOUSES AND THE GARAGE IN BETWEEN THE TWO. I BELIEVE THE GARAGE IS MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH 1,204 OUT THE VISTA THAN IT IS WITH THE RUTHERFORD PLACE HOUSE, UH, BASED UPON ITS PLACEMENT. UH, LET ME START WITH THE HOUSE AT EIGHT, 15 RUTHERFORD PLACE. SO IT WAS BUILT IN 1930, IT'S A TUTOR REVIVAL STYLE HOUSE, UH, AND EXHIBITS A LOT OF THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE TUTOR REVIVAL STYLE, ESPECIALLY THE VERY STEEP FRONT GABLE ENTRY BAY. IT'S GOT A ROUND ARCH FRONT DOOR AND A SINGLE IMPAIRED ONE OVER ONE FENESTRATION. IT WAS BUILT IN 1930 BY FRED W SOSMAN, WHO WAS THE PROPRIETOR OF A DRY CLEANING BUSINESS. AND HE LATER BECAME A TAILOR. UH, HE AND HIS WIFE LIVED HERE UNTIL AROUND 1936. THE NEXT OWNER OCCUPANT WAS JOHN C. BUTLER AND HIS WIFE RUBY. MR. BUTLER WAS AN ATTORNEY. AND AFTER HE PASSED AWAY, UH, RUBY BUTLER CONTINUED TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE FOR ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS. UH, THEY BUILT THE HOUSE. THE BUTLERS DID AT 1,204 OUT TO VISTA AVENUE AND THEY HELD THAT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY. UM, UNTIL ABOUT 1958, THE HOUSE WAS RENTED BY CLARENCE ON ANAMAE WATERS. AND MR. WATERS WAS IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY. HE WAS A MANAGER AT ONE OF THE NIGHTHAWK RESTAURANTS. WE BELIEVE THE ONE, UH, ON SOUTH CONGRESS. AND, UH, HE WENT ON TO GET FURTHER INTO THE, UH, RESTAURANT AND FOOD SERVICE BUSINESS. HE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEW TERRACE MOTOR HOTEL ON SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE. THEN HE WENT ON TO POLAR ICE CREAM AND, UH, CONTINUED TO BE IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY FOR SEVERAL PREPARED FOOD COMPANIES, UH, STAFF EVALUATED THESE HOUSES AND, UH, MINDFUL OF THE PROPOSAL FOR THE NOMINATION OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS AS A NATIONAL REGISTERED HISTORIC DISTRICT. BUT THE, UH, LENS THROUGH WHICH WE HAVE TO VIEW THIS APPLICATION IS WHETHER THESE HOUSES QUALIFY AS HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND WHILE THE HOUSE AT EIGHT 15 RUTHERFORD IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF TUTOR REVIVAL. UH, THE HOUSE AT 1204 OUT TO VISTA DOES NOT HAVE, UH, THE SAME SORT OF ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, NEITHER HOUSE APPEAR TO HAVE THE APPEARS TO HAVE THE SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS NECESSARY FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. SO, UH, VERY RELUCTANTLY, WE MUST, UH, RECOMMEND ENCOURAGING AND ADAPTIVE WEAR USE, WHICH I HOPE THE APPLICANTS WILL DEFINITELY TAKE TO HEART. THESE ARE THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS THIS EVENING ARE, ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FUTURE OF THE CITY. UH, AND I HOPE THAT THE APPLICANTS WILL RECONSIDER DEMOLITION, BUT THE STAFF CAN NOT RECOMMEND THESE HOUSES FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. AT THIS POINT, IF THE COMMISSION DOES RELEASE THE PERMIT, THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMPLETION OF A CITY, BOSTON DOCUMENTATION PACKET. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. OKAY. OKAY. UM, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CASE FULLY EVALUATE ALTERNATIVES? [03:05:03] OKAY. DO I HEAR A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER REED, SECOND, SOME MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TO THE NEXT AGENDA SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. IN THE LAST MEETING. WELL, THE FIRST TIME IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, SO WE'RE JUST 30 DAYS IN NOW. OKAY. VERY GOOD. OKAY. UM, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE SECOND. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, IF THIS PASSES, WHETHER THIS PASSES OR NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPLICANT'S WORK WITH STAFF ON, UM, PREPARING, UH, THE PLANS FOR ANY REPLACEMENT, UH, ON THE PROPERTY. BUT IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, UM, DO WE, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE ALL THOSE, PLEASE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? UM, IT PASSES NO OPPOSITION. THIS CASE WILL BE POSTPONED TO THE NEXT MEETING IN OCTOBER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. YES, NO, YOU MAY NOT. UM, PUBLIC, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER UNLESS CONVENTION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE, YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY POSTPONED A MONTH. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL, UM, RAVINE BY HIS OFFICE SHOWED THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD RELEASE THE DEMO APARTMENTS, DETOX, PRETTY BAD SHAPE. I'M NOT SURE STAFF, UM, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC. I'M SORRY FOR, I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S BECOME A SEVERE MATTER FOR US THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE, WE'VE ALREADY LOST A MONTH. THEY'VE ALREADY POSTPONED THE CASE, SO WE'VE LOST ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. IT'S POSTPONED ONE MONTH. IT'LL BE HEARD AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. CAUSE OF OUR AGENDA. THAT IS OKAY. UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, [4A. Discussion and Possible Action on Committee Reports 1. Architectural Review Committee 2. Operations Committee 3. Grants Committee 4. Preservation Plan Committee] ARE THERE ANY REPORTS BY COMMISSION ON HERE? UM, COMMISSIONER COOK, COULD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS COMMITTEE, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? UH, I, IF I HAD A SECOND TO LOOK UP OUR AGENDA, UH, I DON'T, WE, WE SAW A COUPLE OF THE CASES, THE OBVIOUSLY THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT AND, UH, THE SIXTH STREET, UH, PROJECT, WHICH WAS MUCH IMPROVED. UH, I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT PROCESS WHERE WE HAD ANOTHER SIXTH STREET PROPERTY WE LOOKED AT THAT DID NOT COME TO US, UH, THIS MEETING BECAUSE OF OUR OBJECTIONS TO WHAT THEY WERE ADDING THERE. UM, BUT THOSE WERE THE BIG CASES. I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATED THE, UM, THE CHANGES, THE REVISIONS THAT WERE MADE TO THE SIX 19, UH, 23 SIXTH STREET. IT REALLY CAME A LONG WAY FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SAW IT. UM, COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH. YEAH. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK FROM THE, I'LL BE AT LEAST ANOTHER 15 MINUTES. I'VE GOT SOME FAMILY MATTERS TO LOOK AFTER. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END HERE AND JUST RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. UM, COULD I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? YES. UH, WHAT DID THE, UH, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHAT DID Y'ALL LOOK AT IT? FOUR 16 WEST 12TH. YEAH. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT. THAT WAS A PRETTY MAJOR CASE THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE BEFORE US TODAY WITH THE THAT'S NOT COMING BEFORE IT DIDN'T COME TODAY. NO, THAT WAS A PROPOSAL, A VERY PRELIMINARY [03:10:01] CONCEPT AT THE ARC. SO ONCE THEY PUT A PROPOSAL TOGETHER AND SUBMIT IT, THAT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA. IT WAS A 32 STORY, RESIDENTIAL TOWER SITTING INSIDE OF A PROPERTY. THAT'S THE NATIONAL REGISTER RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF SAN ANTONIO AND WEST 12TH. YEAH. I THINK I BLOCKED THAT OUT OF MY MIND IN THE REPORT. IT, UH, I, I USED TO OWN PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT OWN PROPERTY RIGHT IN THERE, AND THEY GET REALLY CAUGHT EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. THIS, UM, THIS WAS THE, IS THE ORGANIZATION, UM, WHAT WAS THE ORGANIZATION THAT OWNS THAT PROPERTY? SO RETURNING HATERS, THETA KAPPA GAMMA, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA. AND I THINK WE MADE IT CLEAR IN OUR REVIEW THAT THIS IS A NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED PROPERTY, UH, WHICH I THINK THE STANDING OF IT IS CLEAR. AND, UH, IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING CASE WHEN WE HEAR IT BEFORE THE FULL COMMISSION. IT, UM, IN PARTICULAR, THIS HASN'T BEEN ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER ALL THAT LONG, BUT I THINK IT WAS PASSED IN 2012. AND SO IT'S ONLY BEEN EIGHT YEARS THAT THE, THE CURRENT OWNERS, YOU KNOW, WERE PROBABLY INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL NOMINATION OF THAT, OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. THEY, UM, THEY'RE PLANNING TO SELL THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THE PROPERTY FOR, UM, FOR THIS HIGH RISE, UM, BUILDING ON THE SITE. NO, I'M SORRY. NO, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT IT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S EVEN LARGER THAN THE PROPOSED HOTEL UP THERE ON THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE CHILI PARTER, I MEAN, SO TOUGH. I THINK IT WAS 32 STORIES, WHICH I SAW AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE LARGE, RIGHT? WHY THERE WERE, THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT TO SAVE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING. THE HAD SOME DETAILS THAT LOOKED A LOT LIKE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT ORIGINAL BUILDING INSPIRATIONAL AND ITS DESIGN, BUT IT WAS ALL COMPLETELY NEW. AND JUST IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF, SO, UH, WE DID MENTION THAT THERE IS A PARKING LOT AND, YOU KNOW, SOME AREA TO THE SIDE AND BACK OR SOMETHING OF SOME HEIGHTS COULD MAKE, MAYBE BE DONE, BUT JUST THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BUILDING TO THE STREET, THEY SAID IT WOULD BE COMPLICATED AND COURAGE. ANOTHER TOWER ON TOP OF THE ONE STORY BUILDING THEY'RE PLANNING TO, UM, HAVE A LITTLE COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN, UM, TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING ON A HAPPIER NOTE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT WENT TO THE BOARD OF REVIEW LAST, UH, SATURDAY, THE 12TH AND PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. IT'S 1,287 PROPERTIES. UM, 66% OF WHICH ARE CONTRIBUTING, UM, THE GREAT MAJORITY 10, UH, 1,023 BUILDINGS ARE HISTORIC GAUGE, BUT MANY HAVE BEEN ALTERED. WE WERE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. UM, THAT INITIATIVE STARTED IN 2004. SO IT FINALLY CAME TO FRUITION. UM, SATURDAY THE 12TH. ANY OTHER REPORTS AGAIN? YEAH, GO AHEAD. THIS IS KARA I'D LIKE TO, UM, MENTIONED THAT WE FORMATTED AND MOST FINISHED ILLUSTRATED VERSION OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS WAS SENT TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS WORKING GROUP LAST FRIDAY. AND I REQUESTED FEEDBACK, UM, IN THE NEXT, OH, BY OCTOBER 12TH, UH, FROM, FROM THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS WITH THE GOAL OF BRINGING THE STANDARDS TO THE COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, AT, UH, AT YOUR NOVEMBER 16TH MEETINGS. SO NOT A GUARANTEE, BUT THAT, UH, WE ARE OPTIMISTIC AND THAT'S ONE THING. AND IF, IF, IF ANY, THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE IN THAT LOOKING GOOD, PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO REVIEW THOSE STANDARDS. AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WEATHER UPDATES THAT I WANTED TO GIVE IS ABOUT THE NEW PRESERVATION PLAN, WHICH THE COMMISSION HAD [03:15:01] LISTED AS ITS TOP PRIORITY IN THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE GIVEN THE PANDEMIC FINANCIAL SITUATION. BUT, UM, WE WILL BE APPLYING FOR A CERTIFIED MAIL. WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT TO APPLY FOR A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS TO FUND A, A COMMUNITY BASED EQUITY FOCUSED PRESERVATION PLAN PHASE ONE. SO I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO MEMBERS OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE AND THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WITH A DRAFT OF THE GRANT TO REVIEW. SO IF YOU'RE ON ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES, PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR THAT. UM, WE WOULD FIND OUT ABOUT IT EARLY NEXT YEAR. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN IMMINENT THING THAT IT WAS A, GET THE BALL ROLLING, HOPEFULLY TOWARDS, SO THAT ARE, HAVE YOU PREPARED A PROPOSAL, BUT I WILL BE DUCTING ONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WE'VE BEEN LIVE WITH AN OUTLINE OF AN OUTLINE AND TIMELINE, AND WE'VE BEEN PREPARING THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE PROPOSAL. I THINK THAT WILL BE THAT'S A LONG TIME COMING. AND I, UM, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. DON'T FORGET US. NO, OF COURSE, NEVER ON THAT NOTE, I'D LIKE TO JUST JUMP IN AND JUST SAY, THIS IS MOST LIKELY KARA'S LAST HLC MEETING AS A CASE MANAGER, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE WE WILL STILL BE SEEING HER IN THE FUTURE, BUT I, FOR ONE, JUST WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY HOW MUCH WE HAVE APPRECIATED HER WORK IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. SHE HAS, UH, LED US IN VERY INNOVATIVE, NEW PATHS AND MUCH BETTER WAYS OF DOING THINGS. AND, UH, AS FAR AS CASE MANAGEMENT GO AND GOES AND STAFF REPORTS, AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR, UH, MY SINGULAR AND ALSO OUR COLLECTIVE APPRECIATION. WHEN I SHARE, I KNEW THAT SHE WAS A BRIGHT LIGHT COMING TO US. NOW THAT LIGHT IS DIMMING AS IT MOVES AWAY, BUT HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE HER. ONE THING I REALLY APPRECIATED ABOUT YOUR STAFF REPORTS, WHICH SHOWING WHEN AND WHERE THE PROPOSED RENOVATIONS OR NEW CONSTRUCTION MEET THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS. AND I HOPE THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE DOING THAT DESIGN STANDARDS AS WELL. AND THE GARDENER WHO'S COME AND PLANTED A LOT OF SEEDS. AND SO NOW IT'S UP TO US TO HARVEST THOSE AS HE MOVES ON. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK, UM, OUR COMMISSIONER REED. THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE YOUR LAST TIME ON HERE, UNLESS COMMISSIONER WRIGHT DOESN'T COME ON A QUITE NEXT TIME. MAYBE WE CAN PREVAIL UPON YOU TO COME BACK, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEARING WITH ME TONIGHT. THIS WAS, I'M A LITTLE DISCOMBOBULATED AT THE BEGINNING AND I'M SORRY FOR THAT. UM, I'M SORRY. DID SOMEONE ELSE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY YES. MR. MYERS? [Additional Item 2] I JUST WANTED TO, UM, BRING UP THAT WE DO HAVE A MEMO, UM, FOR YOU GUYS, UM, JUST WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO REMARK OR IF I SHOULD INTRODUCE THE ED MATERIALS IN YOUR BACKUP, UM, A MEMO FOR ABOUT GIVE US A CLUE. UM, SO BACK IN JUNE AND JULY, A COMMISSIONER SIGNED SETH AND VALANCE, SUELA EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE MAX BUILDOUT POTENTIAL ALLOWED BY EXISTING ZONING IN THE CENTRAL CITY AND WITHIN THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN SURVEY AREA. SO WE RECEIVED SOME MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTION LAST MONTH, AND NOW WE'VE PREPARED THE MAPS FOR YOUR REFERENCE, UM, AS WELL AS A QUICK GUIDE TO, UM, BASED ZONING AND WHAT IT MEANS WITHIN THE, UM, WITHIN THE CENTRAL CITY IN EAST AUSTIN, AS WELL AS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR OUR LANDMARK AND POTENTIAL LANDMARK PROPERTIES. UM, JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP, THAT THOSE WERE THERE. UH, WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH OR IN THE FUTURE IF, UH, THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US EXPLORE FURTHER, UM, WHAT THINGS LIKE FAR AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT MEAN, UM, FROM A ZONING AND, UH, FUTURE DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. WELL, I WAS GOING TO [03:20:01] ASK FOR, FOR A PERSON TO ADJOURN, BUT SINCE WE HAVE 40 EXTRA MINUTES, UM, THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE WOULD YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR THIS? NOW WE MAY HAVE A LARGER AGENDA NEXT TIME COMMISSION MEMBERS. CAN WE TAKE, CAN WE TAKE 10 MINUTES AND, AND LOOKED AT THE, UM, AT THE MAPS AND INFORMATION THAT STAFF I'M SURE HAS, UM, DONE A LOT OF WORK ON IT. WE ASKED FOR, I CAN'T SEE YOU ALL NOW. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY YES, THANK YOU, KELLEN. YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SORRY. I WAS MUTED. UM, SO THE, UH, THE MAT PACKET IN YOUR BACKUP WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ILLUSTRATION. SO YOU HAVE YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT, FIVE ZONING CATEGORY FOR THE CENTRAL CITY LANDMARKS AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCALES. UM, AND AS DIRECTED BY THE COMMISSION, THESE MAPS EXCLUDE BUILDING WITH SINGLE FAMILY BASED ZONING. SO THESE LANDMARKS, UM, IN THE CENTRAL CITY ARE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY BASED LEARNING, BUT BECAUSE OF THEIR LOCATION, WE JUST HAVE A SIGNIFICANT CONCENTRATION OF OTHER ZONING TYPES. UM, AND WE'VE TAKEN THOSE AND EXTRAPOLATED THE MAXIMUM FAR, UM, BY ZONING CATEGORY AS WELL AT THE SAME SCALES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. UM, SO THEN WE HAVE SOME BASE ZONING, JUST KIND OF GENERAL IMAGERY, UM, FOR EXISTING RECOMMENDED LANDMARKS AND EXISTING RECOMMENDED NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTIES, UH, WITHIN THE EAST AUSTIN, UH, RESOURCE SURVEY AREA BOUNDARIES. SO THESE INCLUDE INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL REGISTER, POTENTIAL NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTIES, UM, AS WELL AS EXISTING AND RECOMMENDED LANDMARKS WITHIN THAT AREA. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE MAXIMUM HEIGHT AND FAR BY ZONING CATEGORY FOR THOSE EAST AUSTIN LANDMARKS, UM, SURVEY IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE LANDMARKS, AND THREE IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE, UH, INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTIES. AND THESE TWO MAPS, AGAIN, EXCLUDE BUILDINGS WITH SINGLE FAMILY BASED ZONING SO THAT, UH, YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE CLEARLY THE, UM, THE AREAS WITH POTENTIAL FOR A LARGER MAX BUILD OUT THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING WOULD ALLOW. WOW. THANK YOU FOR THAT. DEFINITELY TOOK THREE MINUTES. ABSOLUTELY. LET ME, LET ME JUST SAY THAT THE INTENSITY OF THE COLOR, LIKE IMMEDIATELY CAPTURES THE INTENSITY OF THE PROBLEM. AND WE HAD SEEN HERE AND BEEN ALERTING THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE HAVE, UH, THIS MASSIVE WAVE OF FINANCIAL DISINCENTIVE GROWING THAT WILL START TO THREATEN THESE STRUCTURES LIKE NEVER BEFORE. AND YOU COULD START LOOKING AT WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE CONCENTRATED. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WE'RE CARING FOR AN ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBER WHO NEEDED SOME IMMEDIATE HELP, SO THAT EVERYTHING'S OKAY. YOU NEED TO DO THAT. NO, NO, EVERYTHING'S FINE. NOW SHE'S TAKEN CARE OF ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR THE AGENDA. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE AND PATIENCE, AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SOME OF THE OTHERS LEAVE THE SCREEN LIFESTYLE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.