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          [00:00:03]
          PRACTICE RUNNING A MEETING AND, UM, COMMISSIONER SHAW IS GOING TO, UH, TAKE OVER AT THE CLIMATE PLAN. 
          BUT, UM, JUST IN CASE THERE'S EVER ANY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES OR COMMISSIONERS, AW, SHARE SHAW. 
          CAN'T MAKE IT. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE I CAN STILL RUN A MEETING. 
          SO, UM, WE WILL NOW CALL THIS 
          [Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]
MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT SIX OH THREE, HAVING A QUORUM IS COMMISSIONER YANEZ, PULIDO ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, UM, ALMOST EVERYBODY, UM, COMMISSIONERS ANDERSON AZAR FOR AS MYSELF HOWARD YANEZ, PULIDO, MAYBE, UH, SCHNEIDER, SENIOR CHAIR, SHAW, UH, SHANE AND THOMPSON. 
          AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR EX OFFICIO MEMBER, DON LAYTON GIRL. 
          SO, UH, TONIGHT, YES, SHE WAS OUR CHAIR. 
          I JUST WANT TO LET STAFF KNOW. 
          I JUST GOT A TEXT MESSAGE FROM COMMISSIONER. 
          WHO'S HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE OUT THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL GOVERNMENT WITH HIM GETTING ON THE WEBEX. 
          I'M ASKING TO LOOK AT THE EMAIL, ANDREW. 
          I THINK HE MIGHT HAVE EMAILED YOU AND LOOK INTO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WE ARE WELCOMING A NEW COMMISSIONER TONIGHT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY'S COMMISSIONERS ARE MENTIONED, AND SO, UM, WHEN HE IS ABLE TO JOIN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND AND HAVE HIM INTRODUCE HIMSELF. 
          SO, UM, JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS BEFORE WE GET STARTED. 
          REMEMBER TO HAVE YOUR RED, GREEN, YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING TO REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HANDS AND BE RECOGNIZED IF I MISS YOU, JUST WAVE YOUR HAND AND VERBALLY, LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE, IF IT NEEDED. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE'RE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ONLY MISSING, UM, ONE, UH, COMMISSIONER WHOSE CHAIRS VACANT PLUS COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY UNTIL HE COMES ON. 
          SO SEVEN VOTES ARE STILL REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE MOTION. 
          AND SO FOR ANY PARTICIPANTS, REMEMBER TO SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, AND IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE. 
          YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM TAKING UP THE ITEM. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UH, FOR THOSE LISTENING, OUR FIRST ITEM TODAY IS TO REVIEW THE AGENDA AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          I'LL READ EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF OR CONSENT APPROVAL, WHICH INCLUDE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS AND NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ITEM ON 
          [Reading of the Agenda]
THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE CORRECTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. 
          SO MOVING ON VERY NUN, UM, I'LL MOVE TO THE AGENDA. 
          ITEM B PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          SO FOR THE FIRST  WE HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO 1.01, WOODLAND ON IHI 35 DISTRICT NINE. 
          UM, THIS IS FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT ITEM B TO REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SEVEN FIVE WOULD LAND ON IHI 35 DISTRICT NINE. 
          THIS IS APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONE AS WELL. 
          ITEM B3 PLAN AMENDMENT AND PA DASH 2019 DASH OH OH OH 3.01. 
          DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DISTRICT ONE IS A STAFF POST COMMENT TO OCTOBER 27TH. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO BE HEARD IN TANDEM WITH THE ZONING CASES. 
          ITEM B FOR NPA DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE 7.02902 MORROW STREET, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          THIS WILL BE BOLD FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B FIVE REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR SEVEN NINE OH TWO MORROW STREET, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          THIS IS ALSO FOR DISCUSSION ITEM V6 REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO NINE THREE 43 29 SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE, DISTRICT THREE. 
          THIS IS A POSTPONEMENT BY BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT UNTIL OCTOBER 27. 
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ITEM B SEVEN, A PLAT VACATION C EIGHT S DASH EIGHT THREE DASH ONE SIX FOR VAC BRADLEY ADDITION PLAT VACATION DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B EIGHT SITE PLAN, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE ONLY S P 2019 DASH OH FIVE SIX ONE C CANING LANE, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          HIS ITEM HAS BEEN HOLD FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B NINE SITE PLAN AS PC 2019 ZERO THREE THREE THREE. 
          CT, THE NORWOOD HOUSE PROJECT DISTRICT SIGN. 
          THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B 10 PRELIMINARY PLAN C H J 2018 ZERO TWO ONE TWO EASTERN PARK ONE B LOT ONE, TWO, FOUR, AND SIX PRELIMINARY PLAN DISTRICT TWO. 
          THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B 11 THREE, SUBDIVISION C EIGHT J DASH 2018 DASH ZERO TWO ONE 2.2 A EASTERN PARK ONE BE AMENDED PLAT RE SUBDIVISION OF LOTS, ONE A AND TWO, A DISTRICT TWO ITS ITEMS OFFER FOR CONSENT ITEM B12 RE SUBDIVISION C H J DASH 2018 DASH ZERO TWO ONE 2.1 A RESUB DIVISION OF LOT FOUR, A EASTERN CLARK SECTION ONE BE AMENDED IS CERT TWO. 
          THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 13 FINAL PLAT OUT OF AN IMPROVED, UM, PRELIMINARY PLAN, C H J DASH 2017 DASH OH TWO THREE 5.28. 
          BELLA FOR TUNA PHASE TWO ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 14 IS A CODE AMENDMENT IT'S C 20 DASH TWO ZERO ZERO TWO ZERO DASH ZERO ZERO SIX NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY REGULATING CLANS CIVIC USES THIS ITEM IS BOTH FOR DISCUSSION AND ITEM B 15 CODE AMENDMENT, THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN REVISION. 
          ALSO BOTH FOR DISCUSSION. 
          AND THEN ITEM B 16 IS A RESUB DIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2019 DASH OH ONE EIGHT FIVE.ZERO ARMADILLO PARKS DISTRICT TWO. 
          THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT WITH DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS PER THE STAFF REPORT, EXHIBIT C. 
          ALRIGHT, SO, UM, LET ME GO 
          [Consent Agenda]
OVER THE ITEMS AGAIN. 
          UM, ITEM B ONE APPLICANT, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT B TO APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT, THE THREE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 27TH. 
          UM, I HIM FOR BEFORE HIS DISCUSSION, THE FIVE DISCUSSION B6 WAS POORLY MEANT BY BOTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND APPLICANT TO OCTOBER 27TH. 
           IS CONSENT. 
          B EIGHT IS FULL FOR DISCUSSION. 
          BENIGN IS CONSENT. 
          BE 10 IS CONSENT, BE 11, BE 12, 13 ARE ALL CONSENT, BE 14 AND BE 15 ARE BOTH FOR DISCUSSION AND BE 16 IS FOR CONSENT. 
          UM, THIS CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SO DO ANY COMMISSIONERS NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES SOME ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER JAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF. 
          I OWN A REAL ESTATE. 
          UH, JUST WITHIN, I DUNNO, A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET FROM THERE. 
          YOU SAID B FIVE, FOUR AND FIVE OH FOUR AND FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR OTHERWISE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? NOPE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. 
          SECOND BY COMMISSIONERS ARE ALRIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PROLIFIC GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, 
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EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11, UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGENDA ON, BUT I WANT TO CIRCLE BACK AND WELCOME COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY TO THE COMMISSION. 
          IT'S VERY DIFFERENT DOING THIS VIRTUALLY A COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WENT IN TO SAY A FEW WORDS, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD? NOT, NOT REALLY. 
          HI. 
          IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH Y'ALL LIKE YOU'LL GET TO KNOW ME SOONER OR LATER. 
          GREAT. 
          AWESOME. 
          SO MOVING ONTO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, JUST A QUICK REMINDER THAT DURING THE ROUND ROBIN SEIZE STATE WHO THE QUESTION IS FOR AND ALLOW A FEW SECONDS BEFORE ASKING A QUESTION, THAT'S WHEN WE GET TO THE GROUND. 
          UM, BUT THE FIRST DISCUSSION 
          [Items B4 & B5]
ITEM IS FOR ITEM B FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS. 
          AND WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION. 
          YES. 
          ITEM B FOUR IS PLANNING MINUTE NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 7.02. 
          THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS NINE OH TWO NINE OH FOUR. 
          MORROW STREET IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY LAND USE. 
          IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          WE DID NOT RECENTLY RECEIVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM, BUT THE STAFF CASE REPORT DOES INCLUDE, UH, RECOMMEND, UH, EXCUSE ME. 
          IT DOES INCLUDE COMMENT FORMS FROM PEOPLE IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED FROM THE, UH, 500 FEET BOUNDARY. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          IS THERE WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS TOGETHER. 
          WAS THERE, UM, ANOTHER OR A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION? YES. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          MY NAME IS MARK GRAHAM. 
          I'M THE CASE MANAGER FOR THE COMPANION CASE, WHICH IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO FOUR SEVEN FOUR NINE OH TWO AND NINE OH FOUR MORROW STREET. 
          UM, JUST BUILDING ON OUR MARINES, UH, EXPLANATION. 
          THIS SITE IS APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, UM, CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, SF THREE, UH, FOUR, ESSENTIALLY A SINGLE FAMILY AND ATTACHED, UH, DETACHED AND ATTACHED UP TO ABOUT 7.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THE REQUEST IS FOR , UM, WHICH WOULD PERMIT UP TO 17 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OR APPROXIMATELY 13 UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION GRANTS A REQUESTED MF ONE IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE, UM, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE OF THE DISTRICT. 
          THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE REQUESTED ZONING, UH, IS USED WHERE THERE'S A MIX OF DETACHED AND ATTACHED RESIDENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S USED AS A BUFFER BETWEEN A HIGHER MULTIFAMILY ZONE IN THIS CASE, THE  ON THE EAST AND NORTH, UM, AND, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY ON THE NORTH AND WEST. 
          UM, AND THE ALSO BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, RECEIVED SUPPORT FOR CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE, UH, AMENDMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING STAFF. 
          UH, THE SECOND REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH CITY COUNCIL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE 2017 STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. 
          AND, UM, THEY SAID THIS LARGE GOAL OF 135,000 NEW UNITS OVER THE PERIOD OF THE BLUEPRINT, BUT A 10 YEAR GOAL FOR NORTH LAMAR OF 1,326 RESIDENCES. 
          THIS SITE IS ONLY ABOUT 450 FEET OFF OF LAMAR, A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR WITH, UM, UM, IT'S VERY GOOD ACCESS TO THAT. 
          AND, AND THIS ALSO A 10 MINUTE WALK FROM THE CRESTVIEW STATION, UM, COUNCIL'S GOAL, UH, PROPOSED AT 90% OF THE NEWLY BUILT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE LOCATED WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE OF TRANSIT SERVICE. 
          THE SITE MEETS THAT CRITERIA. 
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UM, AND LASTLY, UH, THE REQUESTS AS A PUBLIC NEED AND NOT A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE TO THE OWNER, THE LOCATION IS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CRESTVIEW TOD WALKABLE AREA. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS COMPACT AND COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. 
          UH, WE THINK PROTECTS THE DETACHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, THE PROPOSED RESIDENCES MAKE A GOOD USE OF LAND NEAR THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN TRANSPORTATION. 
          A STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAIN IS TO GRANT THE REQUESTED MF ONE NPS ZONING, AND THAT COMPLETES THE STAFF PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE, VICTORIA HALSEY? I'M HERE. 
          UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          THIS IS VICTORIA HASI WITH THE THROWER DESIGN REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER. 
          UM, WELL SOMEONE CUE ME WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS UP. 
          YES, WE CAN SEE YOUR FIRST LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE'RE THERE. 
          THE PROPERTY IS 0.7, FIVE ACRES LOCATED LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM NORTH LAMAR BOULEVARD, WHICH ISN'T IMAGINE OFF THE NEXT CITY CORRIDOR FURTHER THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE BOUNDARY OF THE CRESTY STAGE, THE CRESSEY STATION, WHICH IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN TOWN CENTER. 
          THERE ARE SEVERAL TRANSIT STOPS AND A MIX OF USES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE PROPERTIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          ORANGE. 
          AND I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO MANY PROPERTIES WEST AND SOUTH SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACK THAT HAVE ONE, ONE ROLLING UNIT OR ARE ACTUALLY SCHEDULING UNITS. 
          MOST OF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED SOME COMBINATION OF EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR TOD INFILL DENSITY IS OCCURRING HERE, AND IT'S, IT'S A POSITIVE IN THIS AREA, UH, AND FOR THE GREATER, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND ALTHOUGH UNDERSTANDABLY, THAT DOES COME WITH SOME GROWING PAINS, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT STRUGGLES TO UPGRADE POORLY MAINTAINED AND LACKING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WITH TIME GROWING PAINS WILL LESSEN BECAUSE GREATER DENSITY WILL PROVIDE MORE AND BETTER SYSTEM FOR TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE LIFE. 
          UM, NEXT LIFE SCENE EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY. 
          THE IS IN POOR CONDITION AND IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IMAGE IS A GOOGLE STREET VIEW LOOKING WEST DOWN MORROW. 
          THERE IS A SIDEWALK YOU CAN SEE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK. 
          SORRY. 
          THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY THAT WE SEE. 
          SLIDE FIVE NOW. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO, THERE ARE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF MARGE STREET AND NO SIDEWALKS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HELP BRING SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TOO, TO THIS STREET. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IMAGE IS FURTHER WEST ON MORROW WITH THE SUBJECT TRACK SCENE ON THE RIGHTS OF PRESENTING DENSE BUSHES AND VEGETATE VEGETATION ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE STREET AND THE TRACK. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          LAST IMAGE OF LOOKING FURTHER WITH THE BALLPARK IS VISIBLE JUST BEYOND THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOMES TO THE LEFT SIDE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO BOTH PROJECTS JUST FOR 11 TO 12 TOWNHOUSE STYLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, WITHOUT THE NEED TO SUBDIVIDE THE LAND AND STANDALONE SINGLE FAMILY, LOT, THE REZONING IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW GREATER TREE PROTECTION WILL REQUIRE A GREATER SETBACK FROM THE REMAINING SINGLE FAMILY ZONED PROPERTIES AND WILL BE LESS OF A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, BUT MOST EXCITING WILL EASILY BRING MORE PEOPLE CLOSER TO GREATER TRANSIT OPTIONS AND ACTIVITIES ON THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON OF  SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS. 
          THE DIFFERENCES ARE MINIMAL TO NONE ON THE TABLE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS SPECIFIC TO THE SUBJECT TRACKS AND WITHOUT A ZONING CHANGE, THE PROPERTY CAN BE SUBDIVIDED INTO AT MOST FIVE LOTS WITH, WITH EACH ONE, HAVING A MAIN HOUSE IN AN APU, SIMILAR TO MANY OF THE OTHER HOUSES. 
          DO YOU SEE, UH, TO THE WEST, MANY OF THOSE, A LOT TO SEE THE WEST, UM, WITH THE ZONING CHANGE, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR 11 TO 12 WELLING UNITS ON THE SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, DAMAGE HERE SHOWING THE BUILDING SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, 
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UH, FOR THE DIFFERENT LOT LINES OF THE, OF THE SUBJECT TRACKS, THE LIGHT BLUE AREA OF VESSEL REPRESENTS THE 25 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY COMPATIBILITY ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE. 
          THERE'S ALSO A 25 FOOT BURTNER SETBACK. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT, UH, AT THE PROPERTY LINE FRONTING MORROW, AND THEN THE EAST SIDE OF THE LOT AND THE REMAINING REAR PORTIONS OF THE LOT ARE NOT IMPACTED BY COMPATIBILITY. 
          AND THEREFORE THERE ARE A, THERE IS A FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACK AND A 10 FOOT REAR SETBACK. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE GUIDANCE FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THERE ARE MANY GOOD REASONS TO SUPPORT THE REZONING. 
          AND IN SUMMARY, THE PROPERTY WILL PROVIDE A GREATER LEVEL OF COMPACTING, CONNECTED DEVELOPMENT, PLACING MORE PEOPLE IN PROXIMITY TO URBAN ELEMENTS THAT ARE KEY TO ACHIEVING A SUSTAINABLE URBAN ENVIRONMENT FOR DECADES TO COME. 
          WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING REQUEST, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE, UH, MR. ENTRE, WE'RE ON THE PHONE AND THEN YOU CUT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, RON'S ROLE WE'RE HERE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST WANTED TO ADD A FEW THINGS, UH, TO WHAT VICTORIA HAD STATED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS SHE IS, AS SHE INDICATED, THE PROPERTY CAN BE SUBDIVIDED AND POSSIBLY UP TO FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH EACH WOULD HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND IN SOME CASES, MAYBE TWO DRIVEWAYS. 
          SO EACH LOT FINDING OUT TOMORROW, WHICH I DO NOT THINK THAT THAT IS THE BEST DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS PROPERTY DESIRES. 
          I THINK THAT MULTIFAMILY ZONING WITH A SINGLE DRIVEWAY IS SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS IS DEFINITELY THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT SHOULD BE ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S A GARAGE FOR A TRANSITION FROM THE  THAT'S TO THE EAST AND TO THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S TO THE WEST. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE WOULD SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA FOR MF ONE ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          WE THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR POSITIVE CONSIDERATION TO THIS. 
          THANK YOU NOW. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE MR. CHIP HARRIS ON THE PHONE, MR. HARRIS? YES. 
          UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS CHIP HARRIS AND I LIVE IN THE CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE CRESSEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS TAKEN A POSITION OPPOSING THE REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES. 
          THERE ARE ALSO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL. 
          AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THE PROPOSED REZONING, WHO ARE OPPOSED TO IT. 
          ONE OF THE CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF THE COUNCIL APPROVED CRESTVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS REFLECTED IN ITS MAJOR RECOMMENDATION THAT STATES QUOTE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AREAS SHOULD RETAIN S F THREE ZONING AND ALMOST ALL THE CITIES RATIONALE FOUND ON PAGE TWO OF THE BACKUP, SUPPORTING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT AND FLOWN CHANGE SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT THE PROPERTIES, IF 902 AND 904 MORROW ARE EITHER IN THE TOD WHERE THE HUNTSMAN PETROCHEMICAL SITE ONCE WAS, OR THAT THEY FRONT ON LAMAR BOULEVARD, NEITHER OF WHICH IS TRUE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PORTION OF THE PLAN. 
          I STATED EARLIER REGARDING RETENTION MSF THREE ZONING, WHICH DOES NOT SUPPORT THE REZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES TO MULTIFAMILY ALL THE OTHER STATEMENTS HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, APPLY TO THE T O D TO THE SOUTH OR TO LAMAR BOULEVARD. 
          AND NOT TO THESE TWO LOTS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MORROW, APPLYING THE STATEMENTS FROM PORTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN TO AN AREA THEY WERE NOT INTENDED FOR INVALIDATES THE CITY'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE PLAN BE AMENDED, IRONICALLY, THE AREA ACROSS THE STREET AND WITHIN THE TOD ON THAT SOUTH SIDE OF MORROW HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          AND IF YOU DO PLEXUS, WHICH SUPPORTS TO HAE UNDER RECOMMENDATIONS BY STAFF ON PAGE TWO, CHANGING THE FLUME ON THE NORTH SIDE TOMORROW TO MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHERE THE TOD EXIST. 
          AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK THIS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE NINE 
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OF THE BACKUP FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT. 
          IT STATES AT NINE OH TWO AND NINE OH FOUR MORROW, TOTAL QUOTE, APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES IN QUOTES. 
          WHILE THE TOTAL LAND IN THE TWO, LOTS IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE. 
          THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES INVOLVED IN THIS CASE THAT JUSTIFIED A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THE CITY IS ENCOURAGING DENSITY ON THE CORRIDORS, BUT MORROW STREET IS NOT A CORRIDOR. 
          IT IS A NARROW 30 FOOT WIDE INTERIOR RESIDENTIAL STREET WITH PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON BOTH SIDES. 
          HOWEVER, POOR ARTERIAL CONNECTIONS IN THE AREA RESULT IN IT BEING USED AS A CUT THROUGH WITH HIGHER THAN AVERAGE TRAFFIC VOLUMES. 
           ZONING SHOULD NOT BE APPROVED AS IF ONLY EXACERBATE THESE PROBLEMS. IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          THERE'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH 900 TOMORROW. 
          IT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE 1980 BEING UNDEVELOPED. 
          IT HAS MANY MATURE TREES AND HELPS REDUCE FLOODING THREATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE EXPECT IT TO BE DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO  STANDARDS, INCLUDING 45% IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT  ALLOWS 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER THE LOSS OF THAT MUCH ADDITIONAL PERVIOUS COVER OVER 2100 SQUARE FEET ON A HALF ACRE LOT COULD CONTRIBUTE SUBSTANTIALLY TO FLOODING PROBLEMS. I'D LIKE TO SUMMARIZED BY ECHOING AND OTHER RESIDENTS CONCERNS. 
          WHEN YOU SAID THIS UP, SONY WOULD HAVE AN INVERSE EFFECT ON TRAFFIC, SAFETY, WALKABILITY, AFFORDABILITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          PLEASE HONOR OUR APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS PLAN AMENDMENT AND JUNK SOUNDING CHANGE REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HARRIS, DO WE HAVE MIKE LEVINE ON THE PHONE THREE MINUTES, PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. 
          THIS IS MIKE LEVINE. 
          I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          AND AS CHIP MENTIONED, OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DIDN'T PASS A RESOLUTION OPPOSING THIS, UH, CHANGE THE, THE PRIMARY REASONS BEING ONE THAT IS IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          AND WE WONDER WHY WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          IF WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING HERE AND ASKING YOU TO NOT CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AGAINST OUR WILL, TO THAT WHILE YOU KEEP, WHILE THE PETITIONER KEEPS SUGGESTING THAT IT'S SO CLOSE TO THE TRANSIT TO THE TOD, INTO THE CORRIDOR, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO IT? I GUESS I WONDER WHY WE EVEN HAVE DESIGNATIONS FOR CORRIDORS, IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, WELL, THIS IS CLOSE TO IT. 
          AND TO THERE ARE YOU BEING THAT MORAL STREET IS A PRETTY HIGH TRAFFIC CUT THROUGH, AS CHIP MENTIONED, AND COUNCILMEMBER COSAR JUST MADE IT A QUADRUPLE THE TRAFFIC ON IT POTENTIALLY BY REMOVING A TRAFFIC BARRIER AT ONE END OF THE STREET OFTEN CALLED THE PORK CHOP. 
          SO WE, UH, WE ARE ANTICIPATING A, A FOURFOLD INCREASE IN TRAFFIC THERE AS IS. 
          SO WE, AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A DEATH OF A CHILD DEATH ON THAT STREET. 
          AND SO WE'RE WONDERING WHY YOU'D WANT TO MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS FOR CHILDREN. 
          UM, THE PARK THAT THEY OFTEN LIKE TO SITE BEING NEAR THE LOCATION IS A PRIVATE PARK THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE. 
          THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL THAT Y'ALL CUT WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THE CRESTVIEW COMMONS THERE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT A, IT SHOULDN'T BE COUNTED TOWARDS ACTUAL PARKLAND SINCE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE IT. 
          IT'S PRIVATE BALL FIELD. 
          UM, AND THAT'S IT. 
          I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT THERE. 
          I DON'T THINK Y'ALL REALLY CARE ANYWAY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LEVINE, IS STEVE THREE MINUTES?  YES, YES, I CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN? MY NAME IS STEVE, MY WIFE AND I LIVE IT. 
          OH, STREET, UH, THE STREET WHERE THESE PROPERTIES EXIST. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO SHARE THREE CONCERNS I HAVE TONIGHT. 
          UM, IT LEADS ME TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. 
          UM, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, I PARTICIPATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IT'S BEEN REFERENCED ALREADY. 
          UM, THE PLAN WAS CREATED AFTER MONTHS OF GIVE AND TAKE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND CITY STAFF, OUR INTENTION, AND THAT OF THE PLAN WAS TO SUPPORT SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN PLACE COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY ZONING ALONG BURNET ROAD ANDERSON LANE AND AMARA BOULEVARD. 
          THAT'S ALONG THOSE STREETS, THE TWO PROPERTIES AT NINE OH TWO, NINE OH FOUR MO ARE NOT ON 
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LAMAR BOULEVARD. 
          THEY WERE TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SECONDLY, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT WOULD RESULT FROM AN  TO MULTIFAMILY. 
          SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES TEND TO ABSORB AND HANDLE A MUCH MORE OF THEIR OWN RUNOFF. 
          THEY CHANGED TO MULTIFAMILY AND INCREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL CREASE A RAINWATER TO FLOW TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND ONTO THE STREET CRESTVIEW AT THIS TIME IS ALREADY DEALING WITH, UH, INCREASED STREET FLOODING AND SOME PROPERTY FLOODING WHEN HEAVY RAINS OCCUR. 
          THIRDLY, MULTIFAMILY ZONING WILL RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, ON MOL AND ADJACENT STREETS. 
          YEAH, ADJACENT STREETS THAT ATTACH MORAL TO ANDERSON LANE, THE SAFETY AND RESIDENCE OF THE RESIDENTS LIVING ON THE STREETS AND THE PEDESTRIANS NAVIGATING THESE SAME STREETS WILL BE THREATENED. 
          UM, TRAFFIC CALMING EXISTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT WAS DEVELOPED OVER 10 YEARS AGO. 
          AND JUST NOT CONSIDER ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENED AT THE NORTH CROSS MALL OR AT THE COMMONS AREA. 
          THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO MY CONCERNS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. COONER IS MISS HOPPING ON THE PHONE? YEP. 
          I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU DIDN'T HEAR ME. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME, UM, CITIZENS THAT WOULD PREFER TO, UH, DEFEND THE ORIGINAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2004. 
          UM, AND, AND WE UNDERSTAND THEIR REASONING BEHIND WHY THEY FEEL LIKE THIS PROJECT DOES NOT, UM, ALIGN WITH THEIR PLAN. 
          HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AND CITIES ARE NOT STATIC. 
          THEY ARE, THEY ARE LIVING, BREATHING, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CHANGE THROUGH A DEFINED PROCESS. 
          UH, THE AREA HAS CHANGED, UH, HERE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED, UH, THAT BRING GOOD CAUSE FOR AMENDMENTS, EVEN BEYOND JUST THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT. 
          THESE, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT, UM, GIVE GOOD REASON TO PAUSE AND RECONSIDER WHAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AND HOW MAYBE PORTIONS OF THESE AREAS CAN SUPPORT THE OVERARCHING GOALS THAT COUNCIL HAS, HAS, UH, CLEARLY GONE ON RECORD SAYING, ARE, ARE SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT TO ACHIEVE. 
          UM, THIS REZONING DOES NOT DISPLACE ANYONE DIRECTLY. 
          AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT WAS MULTIFAMILY AND MULTIPLE UNITS IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HERE THAT SOMEONE COULD OCCUPY. 
          BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NOT MANY WHO WOULD WANT TO OCCUPY THE HOUSE AS IT TODAY, IT'S IN PRETTY POOR CONDITION. 
          SO ANYTHING YOU DO HERE, WHETHER YOU PUT IN A BRAND NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, EVEN ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, OR YOU SAID THE BUY THIS LOT AND BRAND UP TO FIVE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, ALL OF IT'S GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN, UM, I GUESS, A FORM OF DISPLACEMENT OR GENTRIFICATION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MARKET IS DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE MORE UNITS WE CAN GET HERE, THE LOWER COST, THOSE UNITS WILL BE, THEY WILL BE MORE ACHIEVABLE TO WORKING CLASS FAMILIES, THEN PUTTING A SINGLE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THIS LOT. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I DID HEAR A COMMENT THAT SINGLE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT HERE WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY, BUT I ARGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL HERE, THE PLAN HERE IS TO DO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE HEALTHY WILL FAMILIES INCOMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UM, THEY, THEY ARE COMPATIBLE. 
          UM, IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY THAN WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY JUST WANT TO ASK THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER WHAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION HERE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT FRONT DIRECTLY ON THE CORRIDOR, BUT IT IS WITHIN THE DISTANCE OF, AS MARK SAID, IT IS WITHIN THE DISTANCE, UM, THAT COUNCILS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE MORE HOUSING. 
          SO THIS IS 
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WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT MORE HOUSING AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN DOING SO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. 
          UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION MADE BY A COMMISSIONER SEEGER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOUR OR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. 
          WE KEEP THEM UP ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, AND EIGHT, ALL THIS STAINING A FISHERY ON HIS FLEET. 
          I DON'T SEE YOURS. 
          THIS WAS JUST A CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          UM, YES. 
          CAN YOU SEE MY VIDEO NOW? NO, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN. 
          IT'S HARD BECAUSE I CAN SEE YOU ALL AND SEE MYSELF. 
          SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO SWITCH NETWORKS TO GET BETTER VIDEO, BUT I AM HOLDING UP GREEN FOR CLOSING. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I THINK THAT IS EVERYBODY DOES. 
          THAT'S A 11 WITH A COMMISSIONER SHANE MICKEY USING, SO I'M NOW ONTO OUR ROUND ROBIN. 
          SO WE'VE GOT AN EIGHT SPOTS AND EACH COMMISSIONER GONNA HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO ASK QUESTIONS AND PLEASE STATE WHO YOUR QUESTION IS FOR, UM, AND ALLOW A FEW SECONDS BEFORE ASKING A QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, DO WANT TO JUMP IN MISSIONARY, OUR CHAIR SHOP. 
          ALRIGHT, LET ME GET THE END THERE. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, RELATED, I GUESS, ON THE ZONING CASE, UM, WAS THAT WHO WAS, UH, CAN'T REMEMBER THE STAFF MEMBER WE HAD MARK. 
          HEY MARK. 
          UH, SO, UM, MY QUESTION IS RELATED TO, UH  AND WHAT ARE THE, UH, STORM WATER, UH, DURING SITE PLAN STORM WATER DETENTION REQUIREMENTS. 
          ARE THEY REQUIRED TO LOOK AT STORM WATER, UH, AS PART OF THEIR SITE PLAN AND PUT IN CONTROLS IF NEEDED? UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M LOOKING AT, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE STANDARD IS FOR THIS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, IS THE APPLICANT, MAYBE THEY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MS.  YES. 
          DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE. 
          UM, BECAUSE, OH, SORRY. 
          I'M GOING TO LET RON ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SHAW. 
          UM, RON WE'RE HERE. 
          I READ THE PROPERTY TODAY HAS VERY, VERY LOW IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. 
          SO DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, THERE WILL BE AN ANALYSIS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEFERENCE IN RUNOFF, BASED ON THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS AVERAGE, DO THEY PROPOSE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AND THERE WILL BE NO INCREASE IN STORM WATER FLOWS, LEAVING THE PROPERTY THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE TODAY. 
          SO ALL THE DRAINAGE, ALL THE WATER QUALITY IS PLANNED TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS SWITCHING BACK TO STAFF, SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          ON THE, UM, COMMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE PARK A NEARBY PARK WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO CHECK THAT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? IS THAT PART NOT A PUBLIC PARK OR A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? UM, I DON'T, I'M SORRY, MR. CRUSHER, MARK FROM STAFF. 
          I DO NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          UM, I REFER YOU ON YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, UH, TO PAGE SIX, NUMBER SIX, UH, DOES TALK ABOUT THE ONSITE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS WHEN, UM, 8,000 FEET IS EXCEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M DONE. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. 
          DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, COMMISSIONER SECRET. 
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OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          YOU'RE ON MUTE COMMISSIONER SECRET. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HERE. 
          CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          ALONG THE SAME LINES, WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES FROM SEVERAL SPEAKERS THAT, UM, THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING ON THIS PROPERTY, WHAT EXASPERATE EXACERBATE FLOODING. 
          THIS IS NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AREA, BUT THERE IS THERE A PROBLEM IN THE AREA WITH A LOCALIZED FLOODING? THAT'S IT'S THE QUESTION IS FOR MR. GRAHAM. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER, I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT LOCALIZED FLOODING IN THIS AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THERE AM I CORRECT THAT THERE IS NO PLUG PLAY ON THIS PROPERTY OR NEAR THIS PROPERTY? YES. 
          UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMENTS ON PAGE SIX, AGAIN, UM, NUMBER THREE SAYS ACCORDING TO THE FLOOD PLAIN MAPS, THERE IS NO FLOOD PLAIN WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT LOCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LOCALIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS AND SEEING NONE LAST CHANCE. 
          SORRY. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION IN OUR MINDS? YOU THAT THE MOTION WILL BE FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS AND THE REASONING? YES, I UNDERSTAND. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          MOVE APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND INSURERS ARE RIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN SAFER. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          OH, SORRY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? I MEAN, UNLESS NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          UM, I SEE ONE HEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME PEOPLE, I THINK MAYBE KEN BROUGHT THIS UP, JUST THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN HERE AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN PROBABLY REALLY DID SPEAK TO THE NEEDS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WANTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT WAS PROBABLY FAIRLY RELEVANT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          MY GUESS IS HERE WE ARE 16 AND A HALF YEARS LATER. 
          UM, THE NEEDS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS OF AUSTIN, THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE HAVE CHANGED. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REALLY PUT TOO MUCH INTO A 16 AND A HALF YEAR OLD PLAN IN A CITY THAT IS ALMOST DOUBLED IN POPULATION IN THAT 69 AND HALF YEARS. 
          UM, IT'S DIRECTLY NEXT TO LAMAR. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S GOT AN AMAZING TRANSIT TODAY. 
          KNOCK ON WOOD, EVEN BETTER CHANCE THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, I LOOKED AROUND IN THAT AREA AS FAR AS THE GENERAL COST OF HOUSING IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THE FACT IS THE LAND IS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE TO REQUIRE THEM TO DEVELOP UNDER SINGLE FAMILY. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE TO TRY AND DO SO. 
          I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO SAY WE ARE 100%, OKAY. 
          WITH ONLY THE TOP 15% OR 20% OF INCOME EARNERS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE, THE, BY ALL MEANS WE SHOULD VOTE NO ON THIS, BUT IF WE WANT TO BROADEN THAT AND WHAT WE WANT TO ALLOW FOR A WIDER ARRAY OF INCOME MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOR DIVERSITY OF HOUSING, IF WE'RE GONNA ALLOW FOR DIVERSITY OF INCOME EARNERS TO LIVE IN THESE AREAS. 
          AND SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS AND, AND KIND OF WISH WE WERE ACTUALLY GOING FOR A BIT MORE HOUSING HERE. 
          CANNABIS IS ONLY ABOUT 11 OR 12 UNITS, BUT YOU KNOW, ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, THE DESPERATE NEED FOR A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE HAD MUCH BETTER TOOLS TO UTILIZE HERE, BUT HERE WE ARE, THEY CALLED AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          ANY COMMISSIONERS WANTING TO SPEAK AGAINST . 
          I CERTAINLY CAN APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR, UM, GOOD COMMUNITY PLANNING. 
          AND THAT IS ACTUALLY MY INTEREST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN BECAUSE, UM, WHILE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS A YEAR, MANY YEARS OLD, OR, YOU KNOW, 60, IF IT'S 16 YEARS OLD OR HOWEVER OLD, THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN ALSO HAS MANY AMENDMENTS AND, UM, AND PART OF USING A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND, UH, AND LISTENING TO ACTUAL THE EMPIRICAL DATA OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA 
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IS NOT NECESSARILY TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY TO GUIDE SMART GROWTH ALONG THE NODES AND MARGINS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR CITY. 
          AND THIS AREA HAS ACTUALLY ABSORBED MANY, MANY HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF NEW UNITS SINCE THAT TIME ALONG KEY CORRIDORS LIKE LAMAR AND WILD LOOP AND ALL ALONG THIS AREA. 
          UM, MANY OF THESE AREAS HAVE, UH, HAVE ALSO ACCOMMODATED ADDITIONAL UNITS THROUGH GARAGE APARTMENTS. 
          SO NOT IN CRESTVIEW, BUT IN THE NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO I THINK, UM, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE NUANCED FIGURE THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN, UH, IF WE FIND AN EXTREMELY DENSE DEVELOPMENT IN, UM, IN AN AREA THAT IS ON A NARROW STREET, THAT IS NOT ACTUALLY A CORRIDOR, BUT WE TEND TO FIND IS A PATTERN IN WHICH OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ADVOCATES FOR DENSITY ADVOCATE FOR NODES AND CORRIDOR DENSITY, AND THEN LATER WANT EVERYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THAT IS A TREND THAT WE SEE IN A LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO I THINK SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE VERY LEGITIMATE AROUND STORMWATER, WHICH I DO HOPE WOULD BE IN THE SITE PLAN IF THIS PASSES, UM, BUT ALSO IN TRAFFIC SAFETY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT THE PARALLEL TRENDS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING TO TRAFFIC RIGHT NEXT TO THE SITE. 
          SO, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A VOTE A VOTE FOR, FOR, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT IS LAID OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. 
          HERE IS NOT A VOTE AGAINST A GROWTH OR ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT'S FOR SMART COMMUNITY PLANNING, COMMISSIONER, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER FOR SPEAKING FOR MICHELLE CONNELLY? UM, I, I AM, I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK CAUSE IT'S MY FIRST TIME HERE. 
          AND I, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD PROBABLY JUST BE QUIET FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I MIGHT AS WELL JUST SAY SOMETHING VERY BRIEF. 
          UM, YOU GUYS WILL ALL, UH, KNOW WHO I AM AND WHERE I'M COMING FROM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO, UH, WAS NOT, UH, RAISED IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT WAS RAISED IN THE GLOBAL SOUTH, IF THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE WORLD, OR TO ENJOY THE LIFESTYLE THAT AFFLUENT MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES IN THE UNITED STATES ENJOY, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE FIVE PLANETS OVER IN TERMS OF NATURAL RESOURCES. 
          SO THE FUTURE, IF IT'S GOING TO BE INCLUSIVE, IT'S, IF IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO ANTI-RACISM AND CHANGE, IT HAS TO BE A FUTURE THAT IS ABOUT SHARING AND THAT SHARING HAS TO BE ABOUT SHARING SPACE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING FOR THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND HE COMMISSIONER FINALLY, AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL NEW COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING FOR YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SEGER. 
          YES. 
          I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED ON THIS. 
          SO I ENDED UP GOING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY JUST TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON THE QUEST FEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE. 
          IT IN NO WAY SEEMS TO INTERFERE, BUT THE TRAFFIC ON MAURO, I WAS THERE ABOUT QUARTER TO 12. 
          I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE A TIME WHERE THERE WOULD BE PERHAPS SOME TRAFFIC, ET CETERA. 
          I WAS THE ONLY PERSON ON MOROZ STREET BETWEEN LAMAR AND THE FIRST LIGHT TURN CROSS STREET. 
          I THEN DROVE AROUND THE TALL BEAT TO SEE JUST WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKED AT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD CASES ON TOBY TO INCREASE THE DENSITY. 
          THERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF ADU IN SEPARATE BUILDINGS. 
          SO THERE ARE, THEY'RE NOT EVEN THOUGH THEY SHOW AS A BREAK, THEY'RE REALLY NOT FLAPS WITH ONE HOUSE ON THEM OR RENT ONE RESIDENT'S ON THEM. 
          ALSO, I LOOKED AT THE PROXIMITY TO NORTH LAMAR. 
          YES, NORTH LAMAR IS A COURTROOM. 
          IT'S THE CORRIDOR. 
          IT'S AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDOR ALSO. 
          IT'S ALSO VERY CLOSE. 
          THAT LOCATION IS VERY CLOSE TO, UH, THE NORTH AUSTIN TRANSIT CENTER, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT LIMITED JUST TO THE EIGHT OH ONE. 
          THERE ARE OTHER BUSES YOU CAN TAKE. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT THE PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS PROBABLY WHAT THREW ME OVER TO THE SIDE. 
          UH, UM, UH, PR UH, VOTING TO A PRO ALSO TO THE PEERS. 
          THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN IN TRANSITION, OR AT LEAST THESE FEW BLOCKS HAVE BEEN IN TRANSITION FOR A WHILE. 
          THERE SEEMS TO BE OLDER, ADDITIONAL UNITS ON THESE PROPERTIES, 
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AND IT ISN'T AS THOUGH IT WOULD BE A BRAND NEW BOAT COMING IN, BEEN THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THAT MODE. 
          I WILL VOTE FOR THIS. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEDAR. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT ONE MORE SPOT FOR SOMEBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WITH THAT. 
          UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          AND THIS IS VOTING FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY AND THE REZONING, WHICH IS FOUR FROM SF THREE TO NP, TO MF ONE AND P UM, THAT WAS A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CZAR. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR  SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10. 
          I'M ABSTAINING AGAINST ALL. 
          SO TEN ONE ZERO. 
          ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING, MOVING ON TO ITEM B 
          [B8. Site Plan (Environmental Variance Only):
SP-2019-0561C - Koenig Lane Commercial; District 7]
EIGHT, THE SITE PLAN, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE ONLY. 
          AND THIS WAS WELL FOR DISCUSSION BY COMMISSIONER LEIGHTON FOR A WHILE. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, AND DO WE HAVE STAFF ANDREW, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE APPLICANT OR ANY OTHER ASSIGNED OUT, ARE YOU THERE ANDREW DEVELOPED NURSES DEPARTMENT FOR THEM? MR. GARNER, YOU STILL THERE? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE VARIOUS REQUESTS FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          KENNETH LAND COMMERCIAL LOCATED AT 15, 12 AND A HALF WITH CANUCK LANG. 
          THE CASE NUMBER IS SP 2019 ZERO FIVE SIX ONE C. 
          AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN URBAN WATERSHED CLASSIFICATION, BESIDES IS A 0.16 ACRE LOT THAT HAS EXISTED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN IMPERVIOUS COVER UNTIL 33% GROWTH AREA. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE IN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 EIGHT TWO 61 TO ALLOW A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING LOT WITHIN A GROUP OR QUALITY ZONE. 
          AND PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL USE AND IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER COMMERCIAL USE PROPERTIES OF SIMILAR LOT SIZE BY CODE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. 
          THE PROPERTY LIES HOLDINGS IN THE BOUNDARIES OF CRITICAL OR QUALITY ZONE AND DUE TO THE WIDTH AND TRAFFIC VOLUME ALONG KINDERGARTEN ON STREET. 
          PARKING IS NOT AN OPTION. 
          THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION ONSITE, PARKING MUST BE PROVIDED, WHICH MUST BE LOCATED IN A CRITICAL OR QUALITY ZONE. 
          THEN THE VARIANCE PACKET YOU HAVE READ THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROPOSES IS OVERALL PERVIOUS COMING OUT THAT 55% GROSS SITE AREA WHEN THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE AMOUNT IS 70% GROSS SIDE AREA ORIGINALLY IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, SEVENTIES COVER AMOUNT OF 67%. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO MINIMIZE THE PROBABILITY OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING SEVERAL BEDS. 
          THOSE ARE STRIPS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY THAT WILL CAPTURE AND TREAT STORM WATER RUNOFF BEFORE ENTERING THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM AND THEIR PROVIDER PORES PAYMENT FOR ALL PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, AS A ADDITIONAL MEASURE TO LOWER THE PERFECT COVER, EITHER A RAIN GARDEN NOR RAINWATER HARVESTING ARE FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME FOR PROJECTS, SINCE THERE IS NEITHER ACCESSIBLE, A STORM DRAIN OR ADEQUATE ROOF DRAINS FOR IRRIGATION SYSTEM, NOR A LARGE ENOUGH AREA FOR A LEVEL SPREADER THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE MAIN GARDEN. 
          OUTFALL STAFF HAS DETERMINED THESE DESIGN DECISIONS PROVIDE GREATER OVERALL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BECAUSE FOR A LOT THIS SIDE AND AN URBAN WATERSHED, AND WITH THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF THE PREVIOUS COVER PROPOSED OUR QUALITY TREATMENT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED FOR, FROM AUTUMN AT ALL, NOT EVEN THE SEA AND LOOP TEAM ADOPTION. 
          THEREFORE STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT ALL VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND THEN THE PROPOSED PROJECT PROVIDES GREATER OVERALL NINE PROTECTION IS ACHIEVABLE WITHOUT THE BARRIERS STAFF RECOMMENDS EXPERIENCE WITH CONDITIONS AND THE CONDITIONS ARE FOUNDED IN THE PACKET. 
          I CAN READ THOSE VERY ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GARNER. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT NOR ANY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR OR AGAINST. 
          UM, 
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SO, SO YOU VOTE TO CLOSE, HAVE A HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR LOST, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          UM, ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR A ROUND ROBIN, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS MS. CHARLENE BEVEL? YEAH. 
          SO I'M THE REASON THAT THIS GOT COLD. 
          UM, IT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S ACTUALLY A HALF A BLOCK FROM MY HOUSE. 
          NOW. 
          I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE CONCERNS OF THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT, UM, GOT LOOKED AT. 
          UM, I THINK THE PICTURES ARE VERY TELLING THE, THE, IT BASICALLY MOVED, UH, FROM A RESIDENTIAL USE TO A COMMERCIAL USE IN 2014, SIX YEARS AGO. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN IN CODE ENFORCEMENT SINCE THEN THE CURRENT OWNER REMOVED TREES IN THE BACKYARD. 
          UH, THEY PAVED OR EXCUSE ME, UH, PUT GRAVEL DOWN IN THE BACKYARD. 
          THEY PULLED PERMITS FOR SIDING AND THEN REMOVE STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS. 
          UM, THEY, UM, FALSELY CLAIMED THAT IT WAS A HOMESTEAD. 
          THEY, UH, PUT APPLICATIONS OUT SAYING THAT THEY HAD A COMMERCIAL USE AND THEN BACKTRACK, IS IT, OH, NO, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL USE. 
          UM, SO IT'S TAKEN SIX YEARS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO FINALLY GET THEM. 
          THEY'VE ALSO PUT INTO SITE PLANS AS BEING THE SECOND ONE, UH, SINCE 2018. 
          SO I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT IT'S NOW IN FRONT OF US, BUT THIS IS FULLY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          UM, UH, THIS, UH, FLOWS INTO ARROYO SECO, WHICH THEN FLOWS INTO SHOAL CREEK. 
          THERE ARE NO, UM, GIVEN, GIVEN THE, UM, PERFORMANCE OF THE CURRENT OWNER IN, AGAIN, CUTTING DOWN TREES, PUTTING IN, UM, UM, ILLEGAL PARKING AND THAT, THAT, UH, THAT WE CAN IN NO WAY, RELY ON THEM TO MAINTAIN THESE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS AND STUFF AND SUCH. 
          AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE, ONE OF THE PICTURES THAT THE BACKYARD IS ENTIRELY FLOODED. 
          SO IF THEY PUT DOWN MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE WORSE PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO POTENTIALLY FLOOD THE ADJACENT HOMEOWNERS. 
          UM, AND THIS REALIZED OF THE, UM, OWNER, WHICH I BELIEVE IS IN QUESTION HERE IN TERMS OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS SITE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU GUYS IN, UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, APPROVING AN ENVIRONMENTAL ORDINANCE IN THE MIDDLE OF A FLOOD PLAIN, UM, THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY ADDING TO, UH, AREA FLOODING, UH, NOT ONLY IN THIS AREA, BUT DOWNSTREAM, UH, ALONG SHOAL CREEK. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION THERE? I DO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER CHRIS HARRINGTON ON THE PHONE AS WELL IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM YES. 
          TO HEAR FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. 
          BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE THAT THIS FEELS STRANGE. 
          I THINK TYPICALLY THE ROLE OF MEXICO VISIO REPRESENTS THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OR TO HAVE A DIRECTOR IN THE ROLE OF EX-OFFICIO IS MORE TO BRING AN EXPERTISE, NOT NECESSARILY ISSUES, A BLOCK OVER HALF BLOCK AWAY IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM A RESIDENCE. 
          I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY A CONVERSATION NEEDS TO HAPPEN ABOUT THAT ROLE. 
          AND MAYBE THE THINGS LIKE THIS, THIS JUST FEELS VERY STRANGE. 
          BUT WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER ON THE PHONE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS HAS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          CAN WE ASK THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER TO WEIGH IN ON THIS PLACE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? HI, THIS IS CHRIS ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER. 
          I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO, UM, THE, UH, STATEMENTS IN THE LETTER. 
          AND SO THIS HAS BEEN IN CODE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT. 
          THEY ARE SUBMITTING THIS PERMIT APPLICATION TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. 
          IT IS CORRECT. 
          IT IS ENTIRELY LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOOD, PLAIN. 
          THAT IS WHAT, UH, ALSO THEN DEFINES THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE FOR THIS LOCATION, WHICH IS WHAT IS NECESSITATING THE VARIANT WITH REGARD TO THE TREES. 
          THERE ARE STILL TWO TREES BEING PRESERVED ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THERE IS A REDUCTION IN GREENERY VISIBLE BETWEEN THE TWO PHOTOS, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE LADDER PHOTO IS A LEAF OFF PHOTO. 
          SO PHOTO TAKEN IN THE WINTER TIME WHEN THE DECIDUOUS TREES WOULD NOT HAVE BLEEDS, THOSE TWO TREES ARE STILL THERE. 
          THERE WAS CLEARLY SOME VEGETATION REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY, UH, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THERE WERE ANY PROTECTED TREES REMOVED FROM 
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THE PROPERTY WITH RESPECT TO FLOODING. 
          AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED AS PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN. 
          SO THE FLOOD PLAIN RE REVIEW, UH, FOR NO ADVERSE IMPACT, THE APPLICABILITY OF ONSITE DETENTION IS ALL SOMETHING THAT WOULD ALREADY BE COVERED AS PART OF THE REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THE APPLICATION ULTIMATELY ACHIEVE CODE COMPLIANCE. 
          AND JONATHAN GARDNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MAY BE ABLE TO ALSO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN AND DOES ANY OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH JUST OUR, LIKE, IS THIS PARKING THAT THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO PUT IN OR IS THIS JUST A REQUIREMENT OR CODE? AND THEN WE'RE GETTING PARKING BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ANTIQUATED CODE THAT'S AUTO CENTRIC. 
          THIS IS JONATHAN GARNER. 
          THE PARKING IS REQUIREMENT CODE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROPOSED USE, THE PARKING HAS TO ALSO VIEW SUPPLY. 
          UH, A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF FOUR SPACES ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS GALVIN, THIS LOCATION, BUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND ONLY FOUR SPACES ARE BEING PROPOSED. 
          THAT PARKING IS IN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN, A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN, UH, WHICH IS BEING CURRENTLY REVIEWED BY THE FLOOD PLAIN ENGINEERS IN WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT. 
          THE APPLICATION IS STILL LACKING SOME INFORMATION, WHICH ALSO REQUIRES ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM TECHSTOP BECAUSE OF THE ASSOCIATION WITH PROPERTY TO KEENAN LANE OR IN 22 TO 22. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR FLOOD PLAIN REVIEW, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS AN EXISTING BUILDING, IT DOES THE PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THAT BUILDING DOES NOT MEET THE EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE LOCATED IN ATLANTA. 
          THE BILLING CODE 25, 793. 
          THIS DICTATES WHETHER A DEVELOPMENT WITH FLOOD PAIN CAN BE APPROVED. 
          UM, THEREFORE, UM, BECAUSE THE PARKING IS A REQUIREMENT OF CODE, UM, BUT NOT ALLOW AS AN EXCEPTION TO THE BUILDING, THEN A WAIVER OR APPROVED VARIOUS, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP TO, OR APPROVAL OF THE PARENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONE OTHER THING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT LOCALIZED FLOODING. 
          UH, THE APPLICATION IS ALSO IN REVIEW FOR PARTICIPATION IN THEIR REGIONAL STORMWATER EVASION PROGRAM OR OUR SMP AS WE CALL IT, UM, TYPICALLY FOR A LOCK THIS SIZE IN URBAN WATERSHEDS, THIS, UM, WITH THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, IS A CANDIDATE FOR PARTICIPATION IN OUR S AND P PROGRAM, UH, WHICH THEN GOES TO FUND LARGER REGIONAL STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT YOU MIGHT SEE HAPPENING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. 
          THE DOLLARS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM GETS SPLIT WITHIN THE SAME WATERSHED CLASSIFICATION AS THE PROJECT ITSELF. 
          THANKS. 
          AND JUST CHECKING IN WITH CITY HALL. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE I DEFINITELY, UH, I HAD, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THE FIRST IS I THINK I'M CLEAR ABOUT HOW, UH, AN APPROVED, IF WE IMPROVE THIS, HOW THAT IMPACTS THE EXISTING CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. 
          IT'S TRYING TO GO AROUND WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN A CODE ENFORCEMENT IS ISSUED. 
          ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO START TO COMPLIANCE IS TO GET AN APPROVED SITE PLAN SINCE THIS SORT OF COURSE, THE ISSUE WAS ABOUT ILLEGAL NONCONFORMING DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THE ONLY WAY TO, UH, EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE FOR THIS, TO REMOVE ALL THE LEGAL DEVELOPMENT OR TO IS TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVED. 
          UM, THAT IS AN APPLIANCE DEVELOPMENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REGULATIONS. 
          THIS IS THE STEPS THAT THE AFRICAN IS CHOOSING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, AND, UH, UH, I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THIS TERRIBLY CAREFULLY CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL CONSENT. 
          UM, CAN YOU TALK THROUGH, IS THE APPLICANT MAKING CHANGES THAT WILL IMPLY IMPROVE PROTECTION AGAINST FLOODING 
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BELIEVES THAT THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE, UH, SUCH AS THE AREA SAY IN THAT PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU SEE THAT HAS, UH, A LOT OF THE DECOMPOSED GRANTED A PORTION OF THAT IS BEING REMOVED AND TURNED BACK TO GRASS OR LANDSCAPING. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THE OUTLINE OF THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS THERE'S AN EXHIBIT IN THE PACKET THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE, EVERYTHING NORTH OR TOP OF THAT PARKING LOT WILL GO BACK TO GRASS. 
          SO THAT WILL ALLOW FOR SOME INFILTRATION TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, THE VEGETATIVE FILTER SHIPS THAT ARE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE ARE AN ITEM THAT WILL ALLOW FOR SOME WATER TO BE CAPTURED AND TREATED BY UPTAKE AND TRANSPORT, EXCUSE ME, TRANSPIRATION OF THE PLANTS, UM, TO HOLD ANY POLLUTANTS OR TO TREAT THE POLLUTANTS BEFORE THAT WATER RUNS OFF INTO THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM CAN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY ALONG KEENAN LANE. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE. 
          UH, NOT ALL OF THE WATER WILL BE ABLE TO BE CAPTURED AND DETAINED ON SITE. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT A POSSIBILITY FOR A LOT THIS SIDE. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE TO CAPTURE SOME, TO ALLOW SOME GEOMETRY, TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO BE TREATED BEFORE IT INSERTS INTO THE STORM SEWER SYSTEM. 
          SO, SO IN SHORT, ARE, ARE, IS IT THE STAFF'S POSITION THAT THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT OVER THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE LOT IT'S FAST POSITIONING THAT THIS ISN'T IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IT'S ALSO AN IMPROVEMENT UPON WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITHOUT THESE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. 
          AS I SAID, AT THE OUTSET FOR A LOT, THE SIZE AND THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER IS BEING PUT DOWN THERE GENERALLY IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR ONSITE WATER QUALITY, NOR IS THERE A REQUIREMENT FOR ONSITE DETENTION TYPICALLY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, I GUESS. 
          CAN I JUST GET CLARITY ON THAT LAST LITTLE BIT? ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF, IF THIS WERE DENIED AND THEY BASICALLY JUST HAD TO GO BACK AND DEVELOP COMPLETELY TO CODE, THEY, THEY COULD DO SO UNDER, AND, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE AS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THAT THEY COULD PUT PARKING IN FOR THEIR NEW USE. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THERE WITH THAT STATEMENT. 
          ONE, THERE THERE'S NO PROVISION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN AND A CRITICAL OR A QUALITY ZONE WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE VARIANTS, REMOVING THE SITE FROM A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE. 
          LET'S SAY IT'S CONSIDERED UPLANDS, UH, FOR A LOT. 
          THIS SIZE WITH AN AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER PROPOSED WE'VE HAD IS LESS THAN 8,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          TYPICALLY ONSITE WATER QUALITY, UH, TREATMENT IS NOT REQUIRED. 
          AND GENERALLY A LAW LIKE THIS CAN PARTICIPATE IN A REGIONAL STORM STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE ONSITE DETENTION, BUT YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION, THERE'S NOT A WAY THAT THIS PROPERTY CAN BE DEVELOPED, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THIS VARIANCE. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHANE, AND THEN COMMISSIONER SEEKER. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO IF WE APPROVED THIS, UM, WHAT I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT OTHER, UM, OPPORTUNITY AND WHATEVER THE OPPORTUNITY IS, IS THE APPLICANT YET? SO LET'S SAY THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVEWAY THROUGH AND THE PARKING THROUGH, UM, WHAT HAPPENS. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING OR DOES THIS ALLOW THEM AT CERTAIN POINT TO TEAR DOWN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THEN REBUILD IT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE THING THAT WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BUILDING IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          WELL, THE REASON WE'RE LETTING THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S AN EXISTING BUILDING AND WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW THIS EXISTING SITUATION TO BE THERE. 
          I MEAN, CAUSE THE HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE FOR LONGER THAN, THAN MANY OF US IN THE ALIVE. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW THAT TO BE THERE, BUT IF WE GRANT THIS, DOES THAT GIVE THEM COME A FREE PASS, THAT THEY COULD JUST REDEVELOP THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND TEAR DOWN AND BUILD NEW OR AT THAT POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T INCREASE IMPERVIOUS COVER OF THAT FOOTPRINT, DOES THIS ALLOW THEM TO REDEVELOP THAT FOOTPRINT QUESTION TO STAFF SELLING OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES? I'LL TAKE A STAB AT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IN TERMS OF REDEVELOPING, THE EXISTING 
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BUILDINGS THAT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND TO SAY THEM IN SAME FOOTPRINTS, STAFF WOULD VIEW THAT AS AN EXISTING NONCOMPLIANCE AND WOULD BELIEVE WE WOULD APPROVE THAT. 
          UM, POTENTIALLY IN MY, MY OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO THAT ISSUE. 
          UM, SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR OTHER QUESTION. 
          NO. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THEN, BECAUSE THE FOOTPRINT IS LEGAL NONCOMPLIANCE AND WE'RE NOT CHANTING CHANGE THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S LIKE ITS OWN LITTLE PAD SITE THAT IT COULD, UH, BE REDEVELOPED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE WE'VE APPROVED THE SITE PLAN IS THAT RIGHT? BUT, BUT I'M ALSO, I'LL JUST WEIGH IN ON THAT ONE AND EXPAND ON WHAT JONATHAN WAS MENTIONING WITH REGARD TO THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION. 
          SO WE DO HAVE A MECHANISM FOR EXISTING LEGAL DEVELOPMENT TO REDEVELOPMENT, TO REDEVELOP UNDER OUR REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTIONS. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE NONCOMPLIANCE. 
          SO CONCEPTUALLY, IF THEY REMOVE THE NON, THE ILLEGALLY CONSTRUCTED IMPERVIOUS COVER, THEY COULD REDEVELOP, UM, WHATEVER THE HOME, UH, AND IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT WAS LEGALLY PERMITTED PREVIOUS. 
          IT COULD REDEVELOP THAT SMALL FOOTPRINT, IF THIS WAS APPROVED WITH THE VARIANCE AND CONCEPTUALLY, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, IT COULD UTILIZE THE REDEVELOPMENT EXCEPTION TO REDEVELOP THAT EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF THAT, AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING WATER QUALITY TREATMENT REQUIREMENTS WOULD APPLY, UM, BASED ON THE WATERSHED REGULATION, UH, OR WATERSHED CLASSIFICATION IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THEN THEY ALSO FACE THE LIMITATION OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE ALREADY UP AGAINST IT. 
          LIKE FOR INSTANCE, EVEN THE AMOUNT OF PARKING, LIKE FOR THEM TO INCREASE SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE TO RECALCULATE. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO STICK WITH WHATEVER PARAMETERS IT STARTED WITH. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO IN ESSENCE, LOCKING IN THE SITE PLAN AND WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THEY CAN'T REALLY EXPAND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCKED IN UNLESS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS CHANGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I GUESS IT COULD GO UP. 
          UH, BUT OKAY. 
          I, I THINK, I THINK I GOT WHAT I NEEDED, SO THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT, MR. SEEGER, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ASKED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA. 
          HOWEVER, I HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ZONED L M U IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SONY ON A PROPERTY THAT'S IN A FLOOD PLAIN, GENERALLY WE DON'T ALLOW THAT, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS ELO M YOU AND MR. GRAHAM. 
          IT WAS PROBABLY FOR MR. GARNER. 
          THIS IS JONATHAN GARNER. 
          I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE ABOUT THAT QUESTION. 
          WE DO HAVE A NATE JOHNSON. 
          HE'S A PRINCIPAL PLANNER WITHIN THE BOUNCERS, HIS DEPARTMENT, SIMILAR WITH ZONING HE'S ON THE LINE. 
          MAYBE ALSO TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          GREAT. 
          IS IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE M U ON A PROPERTY IN THE FLOOD PLAIN, BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE WOULD NOT ALLOW HERE A RESIDENTIAL IN THE FLOOD PLAIN. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO  WHEN THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WAS, UH, GIVEN THAT THERE'S A NATION, UM, THIS HOUSE, AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THIS HOUSE HAS NEVER BEEN MANY MINISTERS HAS BEEN ALIVE. 
          AND SO, UH, THE HOUSE PRIOR TO ATTENTION BEING THE CENTER AS WELL, UH, BUT TURNS ANY COMMERCIAL LENDING DESIGNATION, DMU ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, UH, THAT THAT COULD INCLUDE, UH, AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. 
          UH, AND SO WHETHER THIS, WHETHER THIS 
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GETS APPROVED OR NOT, AND EVEN IF THIS, UH, ENTIRE SIDE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROJECT WITH PRAWN, UM, WE REDEVELOPMENT UNDER THE LIST AND THEN COMPLY THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT OR IN THE FUTURE. 
          UM, WHETHER IT'S BEEN TO A BUILDING THAT IS INTENDED TO REMAIN A RESIDENCE OR TWO BEDROOM MEDICINE TENDED TO THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, UM, COMMISSIONER SHOWED WITH THE MAN, THE HEAD WHEN HE CONCLUDED THAT THE PARKING WOULD BE, THERE WERE LIMITED FACTOR ON IT, A RUBBISH FINISHED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PARKING RATIOS ARE BASED OFF OF IS THAT THE LAND USE EVERYTHING THEY CAN WITH PARKING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE LOOK AT IT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THAT THEY CAN SLIP ONTO THE SIDE. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SAY , WHERE WAS, THAT WOULD BE A BARRIER, BUT SO THEN IN BOTH SCENARIOS, THEY WOULD STILL ONLY BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ENOUGH AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WOULD NOT TRIGGER ADDITIONAL PARKING NEEDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ONE FINAL COMMENT. 
          THIS IS NOT A QUESTION I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION AND I THANK COMMISSIONER LIGHTENED BURWELL FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. 
          I DID NOT LOOK AT THIS CASE CLOSELY BEFORE NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? MISSIONER, WE'LL SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK. 
          I'VE GOT ONE, IT'S MORE OF A TECHNICAL QUESTION. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE LISTED IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, A MOTION OF PROVIDING RIBBON STRIPS IN THE DRIVE AISLE, PROVIDING VEGE VEGETATIVE FILTER STRIPS THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY AND PROVIDING COURSE CONCRETE FOR PEDESTRIAN PASS. 
          CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THAT YES. 
          CONFIRMS THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS. 
          DO YOU THINK YOU WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER LIAM MOBILE. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, UM, 15, 14, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS BEING REDEVELOPED AT THE SAME TIME AND IS ALSO GOING THROUGH THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS. 
          SO I'M ASKING STAFF IF THEY HAVE TRIED TO GET THE TWO OWNERS TO WORK TOGETHER, TO MAYBE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS AND TO MAYBE MITIGATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO END UP HAVING SOME OF THE SAME ISSUE. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF STAFF HAS TRIED TO GET THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS TO, UH, SPEAK, UH, TO AGAIN, TRY TO MAKE A BETTER PROJECT FOR EVERYONE. 
          THIS IS THE SAME THING, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER TO SPEAK TO THAT QUESTION WE ARE AWARE OF, BUT, UH, THE OTHER PROPERTY, IT DOES ALSO NEED AN ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANT. 
          IT IS NOT AT THE SAME PLACE IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS OF THE REVIEW BEING COMPLETED FOR IT TO HAVE COME FOR A HEARING BEFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROPERTIES FOR THEM TO BE JOINED IN THAT WAY WOULD BE A UDA WOULD REQUIRE THE COOPERATION OF THOSE TWO LANDOWNERS IN ALL HONESTY. 
          NO, SIR, WE HAVE NOT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE ASKED THOSE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS TO COORDINATE IN THAT MANNER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT IS ALL OF OUR SPOTS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. 
          UM, CAN I GET A MOTION? LET'S SEE HERE, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          MY MOTION IS TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUESTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, IT WAS THE SECOND IS, ARE YOU SHEA? OKAY. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR JUST TO CLOSE THE HEARING OR FOR BOTH? UM, LET'S, LET'S TAKE IT TO THE DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
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ALRIGHT. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER ZIEGER. 
          YOU WANNA JUST YOUR MOTION AGAIN? I MOTION TO ACCEPT YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS SO EMBARRASSING. 
          MY MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, CLOTHING, ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDATION REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE'RE BOATING THERE A SECOND TO THAT COMMISSION JANE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION COMMISSIONERS HERE? WELL, AT FIRST, AT FIRST I DIDN'T AND WE STARTED WHEN WE STARTED DISCUSSING IT. 
          I DIDN'T LIKE THAT THE, THE ACTIONS THAT OCCURRED PREVIOUSLY, BUT HAD SOME, THIS SETTLEMENT, OR REQUIREMENT'S NOT BEEN WORKED OUT, THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET FULL USE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS TRY TO GET THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY OUT OF IT. 
          I'M JUST SORRY THAT TREES AND GRAVEL WERE PART OF WHAT THE APPLICANT THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR HIS PROPERTY, BUT LET'S GET IT FIXED SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          DO YOU THINK YOU ANY MISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL NEUTRAL? I JUST BRIEFLY, I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS JUST PRECEDENT AND THE FACT THAT WE MAY HAVE, UM, ON OUR HANDS, A BAD ACTOR AND THAT WE'RE RETROACTIVELY CORRECTING SOMETHING THAT ENABLES, UM, POTENTIAL ABUSE OF THE PROCESS. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I'LL ABSTAIN. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKING FOR MISSION OR SCHNEIDER? I HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS AS A COMMISSIONER YES, PER LIDO. 
          BUT, UM, AFTER HEARING FROM STAFF, IT SEEMED LIKE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, UH, WITH THIS, UH, WITH THIS PROPOSAL WAS THAT THEY WERE GETTING THE BAD ACTOR TO MAKE CHANGES THAT WILL IMPROVE, UM, PROTECTIONS AGAINST FLOODING. 
          UM, I ALSO WENT INTO THIS WITH A CONCERN ABOUT W UH, REWARDING, SOMEBODY WHO HAD CONSISTENTLY ALLEGEDLY BEEN, UM, VIOLATING CODE. 
          BUT, UM, I, I FEEL SATISFIED THAT, UM, THAT THE PROPOSAL WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MEMBERS SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL? ALRIGHT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER SHANE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I WANT TO KIND OF BRING UP A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THIS. 
          SO I KNOW THE AREA PRETTY WELL. 
          I MEAN, EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW. 
          I MEAN, CANUCK IS A VERY BUSY STREET. 
          EVERYBODY'S DRIVING UP AND DOWN THAT, UH, PRETTY QUICKLY, IT'S HARD FOR ANYBODY TO BACK OUT ON AND I'VE DEVELOPED, UM, LIKE A, UM, CESAR CHAVEZ AND WE'LL HAVE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DOING THERE. 
          AND WE'RE TALKING WITH THE CITY ABOUT, UM, LIKE DRIVEWAYS THAT WERE THERE FROM RESIDENTIAL AND PEOPLE BACKING OUT ONTO CESAR CHAVEZ. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR SAFETY HAZARD, THE SAME SITUATION HERE. 
          SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT BY THE TIME WE TAKE ANY BUILDINGS ALONG HERE AND WE ALLOW BACKING OUT ONTO THE CANUCK, I MEAN THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS. 
          SO WE CONSIDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO AT LEAST SOMEBODY TO DRIVE IN, DRIVE AROUND AND COME BACK OUT. 
          THAT'S A MAJORITY OF WHAT THEIR SITE PLAN IS ALREADY BESIDES THE COUPLE OF PARKING SPACES. 
          SO IF YOU CONSIDER SAFETY WISE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GIVE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THE VERMONT COMMISSION HAS TOLD US, WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, SOME BETTER WAYS TO HANDLE THOSE DRIVEWAYS. 
          SO WE'LL DO THE STRIPS. 
          NOW, AS FAR AS FOR THE PARKING SPACES THAT'S ATTRIBUTED TO, BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL USE. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IF THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, WE DON'T LET PEOPLE BUILD HOMES IN FLOODPLAINS ANYMORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WE DO LET COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES END UP DEVELOPING IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN, IF THEY'RE SMART ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW HOW THEY'RE HANDLED, WHY? BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY SLEEPING IN FLOODS AND IT BECOMES AN ENDANGERMENT. 
          SO WE THINK IN THOSE WAYS, THEN THE BEST THING FOR THIS IS TO CONTINUE TO USE AS COMMERCIAL AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WHICH BRINGS US EXACTLY TO WHAT THIS SITE PLAN IS. 
          AND CONSIDERING, YES, IT'S IN THE CRITICAL WALNUT QUALITY ZONE, BUT THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE FOR LONGER THAN WE HAVE. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO ALLOW THIS TO EXIST AND STILL BE HERE TO BE WHAT IT IS. 
          WE'RE NOT IN A, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS THING EXPANDING BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCKED IN WITH THE SITE PLAN WITH AS 
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FAR AS WHAT THEY COULD BUILD ANYWAY. 
          SO GIVEN ALL THESE FACTORS, I THINK THIS IS THE SMARTEST WAY TO GO NOW. 
          HOWEVER, THERE IS A LOT OF HARDSHIPS IN THIS AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I'M SUPPORTING THIS OKAY. 
          FINAL SPOT FOR SOMEBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. 
          GREAT. 
          SO GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH WAS TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE TO CONSTRUCT A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING AREA IN A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE WITH THE CONDITIONS AS FOUND IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MEMO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, HOLD UP YOUR GREEN CARD NINE, ALL THOSE ABSTAINING ONE, TWO AGAINST. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S EIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON. 
          UM, 
          [B14. Code Amendment:
C20-20020-006 North Burnet / Gateway Regulating Plan – Civic Uses]
WE'RE HOPPING OVER TO ITEM B 14, UH, WHICH IS THE CODE AMENDMENT FOR THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY REGULATING PLAN. 
          UM, AM I CORRECT IN THAT MR. JERRY REST OF IS SPEAKING FIRST. 
          HELLO RESISTANCE, JERRY WEST, UP IN WITH THE HOUSE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THIS NEXT , IT IS TO AMEND TITLE 25 OF THE CITY CODE. 
          THE AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN A GATEWAY RIGHT LONG TIME TO MODIFY THE CIVIC USES THAT ALLOWED THE TOD DISTRICT. 
          SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE REQUESTING ADD MAYBE WILSON SERVICE FACILITIES AND MAJOR UTILITY FACILITIES TO THE, UH, USES IN THE TABLE THAT ARE PERMITTED AS OPPOSED TO PROHIBITED. 
          UM, IN 2007, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE GATEWAY THAT CALLING THEM TWO YEARS LATER, THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE ASSOCIATED REGULATING PLAN. 
          UM, THE AREA IS FINALLY AFTER A BIT OF A SLOW START TO, TO THE, UH, ECONOMY, THE RECESSION OF 2008 IS, UH, DEVELOPING AS ENVISIONED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          IN A MATTER THAT AREA, THE CITY REALLY DESIRES ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          SPECIFICALLY, RECENTLY, WE HAVE HAD THE BROADMORE PROJECT, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED BY PARK MISSION AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH IS A 6 MILLION SQUARE FOOT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, STARTING CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DOMAIN, WHICH HAS TAKEN OFF AND IT'S CONTINUING TO GROW. 
          UM, ALL OF THIS HAS RESULTED IN ADDITIONAL NEED FOR ELECTRICAL CAPACITY IN THE AREA. 
          UM, AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THIS CODE AMENDMENT WAS REQUESTED BY AUSTIN ENERGY AND INITIATED BY THIS CLIMATE COMMISSION. 
          UM, IN 1965, THE ALSO ENERGY OR ITS PREDECESSOR, UM, PURCHASED A 33 ACRE TRACK OF LAND, RIGHT AT CLAIM ALONE. 
          AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS, UH, THIS PROPERTY BECAME THE KRAMER LANE SERVICE CENTER. 
          AND IT'S MADE, WAS USED BY BOTH THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, AS WELL AS THE WATER AND WASTE WATER UTILITY. 
          UM, CURRENTLY ABOUT 200 CITY EMPLOYEES WORK, WORK OUT AT THE SITE. 
          UM, IT IS USED FOR MULTIPLE USES A TREE, A WAREHOUSE SPACE, UM, OFFICE SPACE, STORAGE OF CITY UTILITY VEHICLES. 
          IT'S ALSO USED BY THE FLEET PUBLIC WORKS AND WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENTS, AND IS USED FOR STORAGE AND MATERIALS SUCH AS, UM, POWER POLES IN ORDER TO SERVE THE, UM, EXTERNAL, UM, AMOUNT OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. 
          UH, THERE WAS, UM, ALLOWED UNDER THE PREDICATE. 
          WE HAVE CALLED THE AUSTIN ENERGY NEEDS TO CONNECT THE NEW, UM, ELECTRIC SUBSTATION ON THE SITE. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT SUBSTATION, AND FRANKLY WOULD JUST, UM, LEGALIZE USES THAT HAD BEEN OUT THERE SINCE THE MID 1960S. 
          UM, I DO HAVE, UM, ALSO ENERGY FOLKS ON THE LINE. 
          IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY DO OF COURSE, PREFER TO USE THE EXIST ON THE SITE AND WILL CONVERT THE PART OF IT TO THE SUBSTATION TO AVOID HAVING TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY. 
          AND, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH ADDITIONAL REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS SUCH AS RESOLVED AND ET CETERA. 
          SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          LIKE I SAID, I DO HAVE A . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE MR. TOM WALD ON THE PHONE PRESS STAR SIX 10? YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          HI, THIS IS TOM WALLS WITH THE REDLINE PARKWAY INITIATIVES. 
          WE'RE A NONPROFIT FOUNDED IN 2017 THAT EMPOWERS DIVERSE COMMUNITIES TO ENJOY, DEVELOP AND ENHANCE THE RED LINE TRAIL AND PARKWAY CORRIDOR 
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TO SERVE CENTRAL TEXAS MOBILITY RECREATION PARKS ARE AFFORDABILITY, SOCIAL EQUITY, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH, PUBLIC SPACE AND ECONOMIC NEEDS. 
          I SENT YOU ALL COMMENTS VIA EMAIL YESTERDAY ON THE ISSUE, AND I HOPE IF ANYONE DIDN'T GET IT, PLEASE DO LET ME KNOW. 
          WE'RE ASKING YOU FOR A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL AN EASEMENT IS SPECIFIED FOR THE REDLINE TRAIL ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALONG THE NAMESAKE RED LINE, METRO RAIL. 
          UM, ALSO STAFFING INDICATED TO ME, UH, THE LIAISON STAFF INDICATED TO ME AS ITEM WAS NOT POSTED FOR ACTION TODAY. 
          SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO ASK OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TIMES TO SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          UM, SUCH AS, UM, PEOPLE FROM THE SHOW CREEK CONSERVANCY, WHO ALSO, UH, THIS IS IN THEIR COURT ORDER AS WELL. 
          SO THE SHOW PRETRIAL, UM, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OFTEN ENERGY MAY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE SUBSTATION, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAIL ALIGNMENT. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, IT'S CRITICAL TO ENSURE THAT THE WESTERN TRAIL EASEMENT IS DEDICATED BEFORE WE CAN SUPPORT THE REQUESTED TIME LIMIT. 
          AND I WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE ARE A REGISTERED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION FOR THIS AREA, AND WE ARE READY TO MEET WITH AUSTIN ENERGY TO WORK ON THIS. 
          SO SOME, SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND, UM, THE RED LINE PARKWAY IS THE PROPOSED LINEAR PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACE ALONG THE PLANNED RED LINE TRAIL, EXTENDING 32 MILES FROM DOWNTOWN AUSTIN OLEANDER. 
          YOU CAN SEE ON THAT MAP, UH, TOWARD THE BOTTOM IS DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. 
          THE TRAIL EXTENDS OUT TO THE EAST AND THEN GOES UP, UH, NEAR MUELLER, PAST HIGHLAND CRESTVIEW THROUGH THE, UH, BURNETT GATEWAY AREA AND ON UP TOWARD, UH, CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER. 
          AND OUR VISION IS A THRIVING, INCLUSIVE, MULTIFUNCTIONAL PARKWOOD THAT PROVIDES CONVENIENT, ENJOYABLE CAR-FREE ACCESS TO TRANSIT PARKS, PUBLIC CAR, AND OTHER SUBURBAN, URBAN AND RURAL DESTINATIONS. 
          THE PLAN HAS BEEN, THE CONCEPT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS, UH, WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN 2004, UH, CAPITAL METRO AREA VOTERS APPROVED A COMPLETION OF THE TRIAL. 
          AND IN 2014 IT BECAME PART OF THE CITY'S URBAN TRAILS PLAN, WHICH IS NOW INCORPORATED INTO THE ASM T UM, YOU CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE HERE, THE SHOWS THAT OUR PLAN, THE RED LINE TRAIL IS THE ONE THAT, UM, I, GOSH, HOW TO DESCRIBE IT. 
          IT'S BASICALLY THE ONE OF THE TWO NORTH SOUTH TRAIL THAT'S SHOWN ON HERE. 
          THE RED LINE CHART WILL BE THE ONLY VIABLE NORTH SOUTH TRAIL. 
          THAT'LL BE CONTINUOUS STRETCHING FROM DOWNTOWN UP TO THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE AUSTIN METRO. 
          UM, IT'S A BLUE LINE SHOWN HERE, BLUE IT'S DASHED BECAUSE IT'S A PROPOSED PLAN AND IT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S BLUE, THAT MEANS IT'S A TIER ONE, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY TRAIL FOR THE, FOR THE CITY TO COMPLETE. 
          UM, GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS A, THIS IS A CLOSER IN VIEW OF THE REDLINE TRAIL. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED IN 2016 WITHIN THE VARIETY BOND. 
          UM, SO UNDERWAY FOR ENGINEERING AND, UM, RIGHT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE TEXT KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE, TOWARD THE BOTTOM. 
          IT SAYS RED LINE RAIL. 
          THAT IS WHERE THE, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY SITE IS. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN EASEMENT THAT BASICALLY GOES ALONG THAT ALIGNMENT AS A, AS, AS IN PLAN FOR, UM, I GUESS A COUPLE OF DECADES NOW. 
          AND LET'S SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WHEN WE GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE AS WELL, UM, THIS SHOWS A SATELLITE OVERVIEW OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY SITE. 
          UM, SO THIS AREA, UM, IS, UH, IS OF COURSE THE MAJOR URBAN CENTER FOR THE AUSTIN METRO IT'S GROWING EVEN MORE EACH YEAR WITH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THEREFORE IT CERTAINLY WARRANTS AND I PROBABLY, AND ELECTRICAL ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UH, BUT LIKEWISE, AS A GROWING MAJOR URBAN CENTER, IT'S ALSO ESSENTIAL AT THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLING CONNECT TO HAVE DB SIGNIFICANTLY UPGRADED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE SAME USES. 
          UH, THIS PROPERTY IS SITUATED IN THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OR TOD WITHIN A HALF MILE TODAY, THE SAME KRAMER STATION, AND ALSO THE FUTURE BROADMORE STATION, HERB AND NORTHWARD BURNETT GATEWAY PLAN. 
          A TOD IS DESIGNED IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT EFFICIENT, SAFE, AND CONVENIENCE TRAVEL ON FOOT OR BY BICYCLE. 
          UM, AND THE, UH, THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER METRO RAIL STATION AT THE HEALTH CENTER. 
          I SEE A LOCATION THAT'S PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO PROVIDE SAFE AND CONVENIENT ACCESS. 
          UM, SO PEOPLE ON FRED BICYCLE, A WHEELCHAIR CAN GO TO AND FROM THESE STATIONS, UM, AND THAT, THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PRIDE GOOD ACCESS BECAUSE THAT WILL COMPLIMENT THE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THESE STATIONS, UH, BETRAYAL ITSELF, WHERE IT PROVIDES PUBLIC SPACE IN AN AREA WITH A DEFICIT OF PARK PLAN, PLUS IT WOULD PROVIDE A CONTINUOUS REGIONAL TRAIL TO ACCESS ANY OF OUR PARKS, SUCH AS THE WALL CREEK GREEN BELT, WHICH BEGAN AS YOU CAN SEE TOWARD THE END OF THAT OR TOWARD THE TOP OF THAT MAP, YOU START TO GET INTO THE GREEN SPACE AND THEN IT ALSO IS CONNECTED. 
          IT WILL BE CONNECTED TO EVERY OTHER TRAIL THAT'S CONNECTED IN WITH AUSTIN METRO TRAIL NETWORK. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE 
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RED LINE TRUCK CORRIDOR IS LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM RUNDBERG AND LAMAR OR A NINE MINUTE BIKE RIDE. 
          AND THE ENTIRE TRAIL ON PARKWAY PROVIDE ACCESS TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS THAT ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE QUARTER. 
          SO TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ACTUALLY SEE THESE BENEFITS, UH, THE LONGHAND REDLINE TRAIL, WE'RE ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT IN ORDER TO WORK WITH AUSTIN ENERGY TO CLEAR UP THE TRAIL HE'S MEANT BEFORE ANY REQUESTED SIGN AMENDMENT WOULD PRECLUDE THAT ALIGNMENT. 
          AND I DEAL WITH THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME PICKS HER MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT HERE. 
          COULD WE MAYBE HEAR FROM US AND ENERGY FIRST I TO KNOW HOW THAT, UM, OR WOULD IT BE DURING QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          LET'S JUST DO QUESTIONS BECAUSE IF WE DO POST HOME, WE'D WANT TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS NEXT TIME AND WE WOULDN'T WANT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE NEED TO CLOSE BY HEARING, RIGHT? NO, NO, NO NEED TO. 
          UM, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? SO WE'RE OVER HERE. 
          WE CAN JUST DO QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS BECAUSE IF WE MOVE TO POSTPONE THIS, BECAUSE AS MR. WONG SAID, THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED IN THE, IN THE, IN A WAY TO HAVE SPEAKERS HERE, SINCE WE DO THE SPEAKERS, THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN NEXT TIME, THE OTHER THING IS THIS ISN'T POSTED FOR ACTION, RIGHT? IT'S JUST DISCUSSION. 
          IS THE ACTION APPROVE OR DENY THE CODE AMENDMENT ONLY OR POSTPONE ? WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT YOU SAID IT WAS YES. 
          YES. 
          MORE OF OUR GUEST SPEAKER THAT I THINK HE FELL OTHERWISE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH, UH, ANDREW RIVERA. 
          SURE. 
          CONDITIONAL LIAISON LANDROVER. 
          SO, AND SPEAKING WITH MR. WALL, BUT, UM, I WAS FOLLOWING HIM ABOUT THE, UM, UH, HE HAD INQUIRED INTO THE INVALIDATION OF THE MEETING INITIALLY WHERE THIS ITEM WAS HEARD AND THEN A PLANNING COMMISSION PLACED IT ON THEIR NEXT AGENDA. 
          UM, INITIATED MR. WILDE INQUIRED INTO THE, HOW THE CONSENT AGENDA IS, UM, ARRIVED AT, UH, PROVIDED HIM THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, THAT WAS ON A FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9TH. 
          UM, UH, AND THEN, UM, HE DID SUBMIT A REQUEST TO SPEAK. 
          I INQUIRED IF HE WISH TO SPEAK AS IT WAS THE SAME ITEM THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN TO MR.  ABOUT. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT HE WENT TO DREW HAS A REQUEST TO SPEAK. 
          AND THEN UPON FURTHER COMMUNICATION, UM, ASKED TO REINSTATE HIS, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          IT SEEMS CLEAR. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION HERE. 
          DID SOMEBODY JUST ASK TO SPEAK TO US AND ENERGY? YES. 
          I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, DO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST AND THEN DO ROUND ROBIN? NO, IT IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS. 
          SO NO LITTLE GUIDANCE ON THE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LANDROVER. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, GOING INTO THE ROUND ROBIN AND THEN MOVING TO A MOTION. 
          IF THE ITEM IS POSTPONED, THE ITEM WILL BE POSTED AND THE PUBLIC WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM PER TOMA. 
          IF I COULD ADD THE CASE IS SCHEDULED FOR THE OCTOBER 29TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          IN ADDITION, THE ITEM IS TIME SENSITIVE, THE SITE OF THIS INITIATIVE BY THE, UM, BACK IN JUNE, HOWEVER, IT WAS HELD UP BY A UNRELATED LEGAL MATTER, WHICH CAUSED US NOT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE SIDE OF THEM UNTIL RECENTLY. 
          AND, UM, BECAUSE SEVERAL MONTHS OF MARRIAGE IS NOT A POSITION WHERE THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD RATHER QUICKLY, BECAUSE THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES TAKE A WHILE TO BUILD. 
          AND THEY KNOW WHEN THE CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE REACHED AND THEY HAVE EXPRESSED TO ME, THE DESIRE THAT THE ITEM NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION TIME AND MIGHT RUN INTO A CAPACITY ISSUE. 
          I'M ABOUT TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD 
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STAFF DEFINITELY WERE ALLOWED. 
          MR. SCHOFF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE SYNERGY? I'D LIKE, SO, UH, YEAH, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR US AND ENERGY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO QUEUE THEM UP. 
          UH, AND I TAKE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, NOW IT WOULD BE, UH, DO THAT DURING THE Q AND A, OR DO THAT NOW DIFFERENT. 
          SO WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE IT NOW IT GET, CERTAINLY JUST BEEN THROUGH A EIGHT, EIGHT CONDITIONERS, FIVE MINUTES AGE FOR A Q AND A SESSION. 
          IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. 
          UM, I THINK, UH, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE SIDING OF THE SUBSTATION, WHEN YOU CITE A SUBSTATION, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS ON A NEARBY DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT PRECLUDE CERTAIN, UH, THINGS LIKE TRAILS OR DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF SETBACKS ARE NEEDED FROM A SUBSTATION TO, UH, FOR SAFETY OR OTHER REASONS I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THAT, UH, FROM THE AUSTIN ENERGY REPRESENTATIVE, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER SHEET TO READ? DID HE MAKE IT OKAY, THIS IS, I CAN INTRODUCE MYSELF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. 
          THIS IS PAMELA ENGLAND AND I WORKED FOR AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          I'M THE MANAGER OF PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND REAL ESTATE SERVICES. 
          AND ONE OF OUR, ONE OF THE JOBS OF, WELL, A COUPLE OF THE JOBS OF MY BUSINESS UNIT IS NUMBER ONE. 
          WE DO ALL OF THE REAL ESTATE ACQUISITIONS FOR AUSTIN ENERGY CIP PROJECTS. 
          UM, SO SUBSTATION SITES AND EASEMENTS AND THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE GROUND. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, MY GROUP ALSO DOES ALL THE SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN REVIEW AS ONE OF THE 14 REVIEWED DISCIPLINES WITHIN THE CITY. 
          SO ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, UM, COMES THROUGH MY GROUP AND THIS, THE SETTING OF A SUBSTATION IS VERY TECHNICAL AND IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE TO BE AROUND. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT NEXT TO A TRAIL AND NEXT TO, UH, THE RAIL LINE, IT'S GOING TO BE DOUBLE TRACKS IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, IT IS RIGHT NOW, DOUBLE TRACKS FROM KRAMER LANE, GOING NORTH TO ALMOST TO THE VERY END OF OUR PROPERTY, WHERE WE HAVE A SPUR THAT COMES OFF INTO THE AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, SERVICE CENTER AND CAP METRO. 
          THERE ARE MANY COMPETING INTERESTS FOR SOME REAL ESTATE RIGHTS. 
          UM, WITHIN THE SERVICE CENTER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CAT METRO ON DOUBLE TRACKING THE RAIL SO THAT THEY CAN CONNECT TO THE BROADMORE TRANSIT CENTER ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE NEW SOCCER STADIUM. 
          AND SO THAT IS ONE INITIATIVE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A MULTI GOVERNMENTAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL PROJECT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM OFFICE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MOBILITY PROJECTS AND THEIR DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS IN THE VERY NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE KRAMER FACILITY. 
          THERE IS A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY FEATURE AND A DRAINAGE AREA. 
          UM, BUT A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA ALREADY FEED INTO AND WE'RE GETTING MORE REQUESTS FROM CAP METRO AND THE CORRIDOR TO ALLOW THEM TO USE THAT DRAINAGE. 
          RIGHT NOW, THERE IS AN EXISTING, SWAIL A DRAINAGE SWALE THAT RUNS FROM KRAMER LANE NORTH ALL THE WAY ADJACENT TO OUR TRACK. 
          AND IT'S NOT ENCLOSED, IT'S NOT UNDERGROUND. 
          IT'S JUST A NATURAL GRASSY SWALE THAT DIRECTS THE DRAINAGE UP TO THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY FEATURE IN THE END, THE PALMS UP THERE. 
          SO IN THAT CORRIDOR SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTATION, WHICH WE HOPE TO HAVE. 
          AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE'RE SUPPORTING THE NORTH BURNET GATEWAY PLAN. 
          UM, ADDITION OF CIVIC USES, UM, NUMBER ONE IT'S SO THAT WE CAN BUILD THE SUBSTATION AND NUMBER TWO IT'S SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE CAN BRING ALL OF THE SITE USES INTO CONFORMITY. 
          UM, THAT SERVICE CENTER HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE EARLY 1960S IT'S USED BY AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          IT'S ALSO USED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND STREET AND BRIDGE. 
          UM, AND THE SUBSTATION ITSELF IS BADLY NEEDED. 
          UM, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW 
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TO SERVE ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS NORTH OF THE CRANE KRAMER LANE SUBSTATION OR SERVICE CENTER. 
          UM, THE GROWTH IN THE AREA IS GOING TO EXCEED OUR ELECTRIC CAPACITY BY 2023. 
          SO IT'S A CRITICAL NEED FOR AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          THIS PROPERTY, THE FIGHTING OF THE SUBSTATION ON THIS PROPERTY HAPPENED YEARS AGO BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ON THE AUSTIN ENERGY CIP PLAN FOR QUITE SOME TIME, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THE SYSTEM WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO BUILD A SUBSTATION UNTIL WE STARTED THE PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THAT, SO THAT WE COULD NEED THAT 20, 23 DATE BASICALLY, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SERVE THE REMAINING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING UP IN THE DOMAIN, THE REMAINING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS HAPPENING AT THE BROADMORE. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, AS THINGS DEVELOP NORTH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SUBSTATION. 
          IT IS A CRITICAL NEED, OR WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SERVE THE NEW CUSTOMERS UP IN THAT AREA. 
          SO THE SEX WITH THE BASEMENT THERE. 
          AND THEN NEXT TO THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A TRANSMISSION EXISTING TRANSMISSION CORRIDOR THAT RUNS ADJACENT TO THE RAIL THAT WE DO HAVE EASEMENT FOR. 
          WE ALSO HAVE A TRANSMISSION CIRCUIT THAT RUNS EAST WEST THROUGH THE KRAMER SITE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. 
          THAT TRANSMISSION LINE THAT RUNS ALONG THE RAIL CORRIDOR GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SOCCER STADIUM. 
          WE HAD TO ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS TO TRY AND GET THE SOCCER STADIUM TO WORK, WHICH WAS VERY BALANCED. 
          UM, THAT WAS YOUR TIME AS ANOTHER COMMISSIONER CAN PICK UP THE QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WITH A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS CURRENT CONVERSATION. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE CONTINUE? YES, MA'AM AND THANK YOU. 
          SO THE PROXIMITY OF PUTTING THE RED LINE TRAIL ON THE EAST OR ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE KRAMER FACILITY IS VERY PROBLEMATIC FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, THAT CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE IS JUST A LITTLE OVER 50 FOOT WIDE. 
          AND SO YOU HAVE A DOUBLE TRACK OF CAPTAIN METRO'S RAIL, YOU HAVE AN EXISTING TRANSMISSION CIRCUIT, AND THEN YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A FENCE AND A SUBSTATION, AND YOU'RE WANTING TO ADD A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL IN THERE. 
          THAT'S VERY, THAT'S A VERY ILLOGICAL PLACE FOR IT, AND IT'S A VERY UNSAFE FOR IT PLACE FOR IT. 
          IT WOULD COST, UM, THE TRAIL FOLKS, A LOT OF MONEY TO GET A TRAIL IN THERE THAT WAS SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GO INTO. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF CUPBOARD TRAIL BECAUSE THE TRANSMISSION CIRCUIT IS DIRECTLY ABOVE IT. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH URBAN TRAILS AND PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS AND TRYING TO WORK OUT AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT TRAIL. 
          AND WE HAD PROPOSED WITH THEIR CONSENT AND WITH THEIR SUPPORT THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON PUTTING A TRAIL ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE KRAMER LANE SERVICE CENTER, ALONG THE TREE LINE. 
          THERE THERE'S A TREE LINE THAT RUNS NORTH AND SOUTH ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY QUITE BEAUTIFUL. 
          AND IF WE COULD GET FOLKS FROM THE RAIL, IF THEY COULD COME DOWN FROM THE BROADMORE IN THE RAIL CORRIDOR, OR IF THEY WANT TO, UM, WHATEVER, I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE SOME CHALLENGES IN THAT AREA, NOT ONLY WITH THE AUSTIN ENERGY SIDE, BUT SEVERAL OTHERS AS WELL. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A PATH FOR THEM TO GO EAST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE KRAMER SERVICE CENTER, AND THEN COME DOWN THAT WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY LINE THAT TO KRAMER LANE, AND THEN GO BACK UP AND CONTINUE DOWN TO THE SOCCER STADIUM. 
          UM, THAT SECTION OF TRAIL WOULD ONLY ADD A FEW MINUTES FOR, I MEAN, I'M TALKING LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES FOR BICYCLE TRAFFIC, AND IT WOULD ONLY ADD ABOUT 10 MINUTES FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC TO MAKE THAT JOB. 
          AND THEY WOULD BE SAFE. 
          IT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL. 
          AND WE ARE DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE RED LINE TRAIL. 
          WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM OFFICE TO ACCOMMODATE THE MOBILITY PROJECTS, WHICH IS ANOTHER HUGE CITY INITIATIVE. 
          WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO MEET WITH THESE FOLKS AND WORK OUT SOMETHING THAT'S A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY CONCERNED. 
          WE'RE NOT OBJECTING THE RED LINE TRAIL. 
          WE'RE NOT OBJECTING TO THE MOBILITY PROJECTS, BEING ABLE TO USE OUR DRAINAGE, UM, AREAS FOR CAP METRO FOR THAT MATTER. 
          WE JUST NEED TO WORK IT OUT FROM AN ENGINEERING AND A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT 
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SO THAT IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO THAT'S THE INTENT OF AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          THE SUBSTATION IS VERY CRITICAL. 
          UM, THIS IS THE ONLY SITE, THE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE OUT AND DONE THE SIDING FOR THIS IS BECAUSE WE ALREADY OWN THE LAND. 
          UM, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS OPERATED THAT PROPERTY, UM, FOR YEARS AND WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND SO WE HAD ALWAYS PLANNED TO PUT A DISTRIBUTION SUBSTATION THERE. 
          AND SO TO BUY AN ADDITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THAT AREA, WELL, NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PROXIMITY TO THE TRANSMISSION CIRCUIT, OR WE WOULD ALSO BE BUYING NEW EASEMENTS FOR NEW TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET TO AND FROM THE SUBSTATION. 
          SO FROM A, FROM A SIDING STANDPOINT, FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, THE KRAMER LANE SERVICE CENTER IS THE PERFECT SITE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN ANY ADDITIONAL TRANSMISSION GETAWAYS OR, UM, CIRCUITS COMING INTO THE SUBSTATION BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT THERE. 
          SO JUST, YOU KNOW, FROM A COST STANDPOINT, IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT, IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT, IT WILL GET THE SUBSTATION BUILT WITHIN THE TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO BE BUILT SO THAT WE CAN SERVE. 
          WE HAD THE ELECTRIC CAPACITY TO SERVE ALL THE LOAD GROWTH IN THAT AREA. 
          AND, UM, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER? I, UH, I APPRECIATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS AND, UH, UH, I, UH, I GETTING AN APPRECIATION OF HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, BUT I ALSO, UH, I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE RED LINE, UH, ADVOCATES, UH, JUST TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON HOW THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE GONE. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF THIS AND, UM, THAT THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST FORECLOSING SOMETHING, THAT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY, UM, BEFORE, UM, BEFORE THAT THERE'S BEEN LIKE ONE LAST CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT AND SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THROUGH. 
          AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THE NAME OF THE, UM, THE ADVOCATE FOR, UM, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL THINK SO. 
          I THINK YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME. 
          IT TAKES A BIT TO GET OUT. 
          UM SURE. 
          YEAH, APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER SNYDER. 
          UM, SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND ON OUR COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, WITH AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH URBAN TRAIL STAFF AND WE'VE RESPECTED THEIR PROCESS AND WORKING WITH AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          UM, THEY'VE NOT YET NOT DIRECTLY WITH AUSTIN ENERGY, UM, BUT THEY REQUESTED A DIRECT MEETING. 
          MMM. 
          RATHER OUR MO THAT, UH, JERRY  WHO'S REPRESENTING AUSTIN ENERGY FOR THIS IS AWARE THAT THIS WAS A SIMILAR ISSUE WHERE WE WERE LOOKING FOR A TRAIL EASEMENT, UH, ALONG THE RED LINE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS OF JUNE. 
          UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ALL YEARS, BUT IF POSSIBLY ENERGY WANTING TO MEET WITH US DIRECTLY, UH, WE LEARNED VERY RECENTLY, UM, JUST LAST WEDNESDAY THAT AUSTIN ENERGY DECLINED AWESOME. 
          UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, URBAN TRAILS PROGRAMS, REQUESTS FOR ANY SIDELINES. 
          MMM. 
          THEY RESPECT WHAT'S HAMLIN. 
          ENGLAND SAID THAT URBAN TRAILS SUPPORTS ANY SITE ALIGNMENT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY, THAT'S AWESOME ENERGY PRESENTED ONE OPTION. 
          AND I WAS ONLY IN THE SIDELINE MAN. 
          AND SO I'VE BEEN TRAILED SAID, SURE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. 
          SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE, SORRY. 
          UM, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS INCREASES THE LENGTH OF THAT TRAIL FOR THERE BY 80%. 
          SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE EVERY SINGLE TRIP ON THE TRAIL INCREASING BY 80%, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE 32 MILE TRAIL WOULD BE A 50 MILE TRAIL, A COMMUTE THAT TAKES 10 MINUTES WITHOUT TAKE 18 MINUTES. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THAT AS EACH PROPERTY HAS AN EXCEPTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IT REALLY ADDS UP. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE MORE REROUTING WHAT PUT IT THROUGH A GROVE OF TREES. 
          THERE'S ALMOST NO QUESTION THAT A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF THOSE TREES WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN. 
          IT'S ALSO A DRAINAGE DITCH, A SERIOUSLY COMPROMISED OR COMPLICATING BUILDING A TRAIL IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, BUT, BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE TREES, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GET A TRUCK, LOTS OF THOSE FRUITS ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE TAKEN DOWN. 
          UM, IT ALSO REQUIRED GOING TO COST MORE DRIVER CUTS TO, UH, 
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BUILD OFF AN ENERGY CENTER IN ORDER TO GET BACK TO THE REDLINE COOLER, THE WHOLE POINT. 
          AND SHE WAS IN A RED LINE CORRIDOR IS A RAIL TRAIL CORRIDOR, IS THAT, UM, IT HAS VERY FEW CROSSINGS OF AUTOMOBILES. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COUNTLESS PRECEDENT AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR WHAT ELSE AND CHARLES WITH, UM, POWER, UH, TRANSMISSION LINE CODERS. 
          AND THEN EVEN WITHIN APPROXIMATELY THE SUBSTATIONS, ANYONE WHO'S BEEN ON WEST AVENUE AT THIRD STREET DOWNTOWN KNOWS THAT THERE'S A SUBSTATION RIGHT THERE. 
          UM, THE EQUIPMENT IS ONLY, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET BEHIND THAT WALL. 
          IF THAT OFTEN ENERGY DOES HAVE A CHOICE AS TO WHERE THEY PUT THE SUBSTATION ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF TOTALLY WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AND FIND SOMETHING THAT'S WORKABLE, BUT THIS IS A CRITICAL COMMUNITY ASSET. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AWESOME ENERGY MISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A GREAT, UH, ACCESS TO THE JOBS AND RESIDENCES. 
          UM, BUT IT IS THE MISSION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN WITH FMT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR BOTH OF THOSE MISSION. 
          AND THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF WANTING TO HAVE THIS DIALOGUE, SO WE'RE READY TO TALK. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE COME INTO QUESTION COMMISSIONERS AS OUR OUTCOMES WHEN WE HAVE TIME WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, HAD SHIN FROM MR. MESSER. 
          LYNN, DO WE HAVE THIS ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA? I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IT IS TIME SENSITIVE. 
          DO WE HAVE IT ON COUNCIL AGENDA? THIS IS SHERRY REST OF IT. 
          YES, IT HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF IT IS ON THE OCTOBER 29TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. 
          WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE THEN? UM, LET ME LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          YOUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE WHAT THE 27TH, DO YOU HAVE A MEETING ON THE 27TH? WE ARE SCHEDULED FOR A MEETING ON THE 27TH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THE SCHEDULED FOR THE OCTOBER 29TH, UM, AND THE CONDITIONER QUESTION, CONDITION HANSON. 
          I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROCESS. 
          SO WHAT IF, IF THEY WERE TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT SINCE THAT PARTICULAR LAND ISN'T UP FOR ZONING, WE'RE JUST ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE ORDINANCE OF THE REGULATING PLAN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          RIGHT? SO WHAT, OKAY. 
          HOW WOULD WE GET AN, A, AN EASEMENT OR HOW WERE, YOU KNOW, THE STORY WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MATTER ON HOW THAT OCCURRED? I PRESENTED THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORKED OUT WITH THE TRAILS FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, AS TO, UM, I GUESS IN KEPT METRO TO POSSIBLY, UM, AS FAR AS THAT, AS FAR AS I DIDN'T USE THIS FOR A TRAIL, UM, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT IN THE DAY IS SIMPLY TO CHANGE THE PERMITTED USE TABLES IN THE, UM, GATEWAY LANE PLAN. 
          SO, UM, IT'S THAT POSSIBLE? THIS IS LIKE A ZONING CASE WHERE YOU COULD DO A RESTRICTED COVENANT OR CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          UM, WE'RE SIMPLY CHANGING THE TABLE IN THE REGULATING PLAN, SO, AND IT USELESS OR ANYTHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO BE HANDLED, UM, SEPARATE FROM THIS. 
          WAS THAT A CONCERN? I GUESS I JUST, HAVEN'T DONE A QUESTION FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, IF THEY COULD JUST EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SAFETY OF A SUBSTATION NEXT TO THIS, THIS TRAIL. 
          WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED THE ONE DOWNTOWN NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK, AND THERE'S ONE ON, ON THE TRAIL, THE LADY BIRD LAKE TRAIL, WHERE THE HALLWAY STREET POWER CENTER WAS, THERE'S A SUBSTATION RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRAIL. 
          HOW DOES, HOW ARE THOSE SAFE? AND THIS ONE WOULD NOT BE SAFE. 
          SO LIKE STAR SIX, THAT WAS FOR MS. ENGLAND, 
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SELECT STAR SIX STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE. 
          HELLO COMMISSIONERS. 
          THIS IS SUSAN GROSS. 
          I'M THE SHARED SERVICES MANAGER AT AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          IT SOUNDS AS IF WE'VE LOST UP COMMUNICATION WITH PAMELA ENGLAND, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION REGARDING HOW THIS SITUATION IS DIFFERENT THAN, UH, THE TRAILS THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SUBSTATIONS AND OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE CITY. 
          IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO RESPOND? THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, PLEASE. 
          UM, TH THE DIFFERENCE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED LOCATION ALONG THE KRAMER LANE SERVICE CENTER, UH, SITE TO THE, UM, THE, THE WESTERN ALIGNMENT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IS THAT TO THE REST OF THE TRAIL LOCATION, THERE IS A RAILROAD TRACK THAT WILL, UH, NECESSARILY BE FENCED TO KEEP PEDESTRIANS OFF THE RAILROAD TRAIL. 
          UH, OVERHEAD, THERE WILL BE A TRANSMISSION LINE, UM, UNDERNEATH THEIR FEET. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE DRAINAGE. 
          THERE IS, UM, ACTUALLY THE ORIGINAL ALIGNMENT OF A CREEK THAT RUNS ALONG A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION. 
          THERE ARE CONCRETE, UM, STORMWATER FACILITIES IN THAT AREA. 
          THERE'S CURRENTLY A VERY WIDE DITCH, UM, THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATING NOT ONLY CURRENT AMOUNTS OF STORM WATER RUNOFF, BUT ALSO STORM WATER RUNOFF FROM VARIOUS MOBILITY PROJECTS AND AUSTIN ENERGY IS WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE REQUESTS. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY THE WESTERN TRAJECTORY WILL BE, UH, A TUNNEL IN BETWEEN RAIL LINES ON ONE SIDE, A SUBSTATION ON THE OTHER SIDE, TRANSMISSION LINES, OVERHEAD, AND, UM, UH, DRAINAGE FACILITIES UNDERNEATH. 
          IT WILL BE NARROW WORK BECAUSE THERE'S A LIMITATION ON HOW WIDE, UH, THE FACILITIES CAN BE IN THAT LOCATION BECAUSE OF EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. 
          UM, THE LOCATION THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ALTERNATIVE LOCATION IS A TREE LINED AREA ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE DISTANCE IS. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, IS THE DANGER FROM THE, FROM THE ELECTRICITY GOING TO EXPLODE OR IS IT DANGER FROM THAT? THE BIKE HAVE TO RIDE IN A NARROW SPACE IS ENOUGH TO LET ANOTHER COMMISSIONER PICK UP THAT QUESTION. 
          IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER SAY, YEAH, IF YOU CAN CONTINUE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING THAT, I MEAN, I DEFINITELY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SAFETY ISSUES WITH THAT, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID IT BE ESSENTIALLY A TUNNEL AND I KEEP THINKING, OKAY, WELL, THERE COULD BE DESIGN CONCEPTS TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN. 
          SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM AUSTIN ENERGY ON WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE, AND ALSO FROM, UH, MR. TOM WALL, I GUESS, ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT THE SOLUTIONS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          SO IT WAS ALSO AN ENERGY CAN CONTINUE AND THEN MR. WALD COULD. 
          SO THE CONCERNS ARE THAT YOU HAVE A VERY NARROW TRAIL, UH, THAT IS FLANKED BY A RAILROAD LINE ON ONE SIDE, A SUBSTATION ON ANOTHER TRANSMISSION LINES, OVERHEAD, UM, WHILE TRANSMISSION LINES, UM, DON'T TYPICALLY FALL. 
          THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE ON OCCASION FALLEN THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CONSIDER A HIGH RISK OR, OR REALLY WITHIN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY, GIVEN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TRANSMISSION FACILITIES THAT OFTEN ENERGY PERFORMS, BUT YOU ARE IN THE VICINITY OF HIGH POWERED ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND WITHIN JUST A FEW FEET OF THAT, UM, WHEREAS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE KRAMER LANE SITE, UH, YOU WOULD NOT BE IN AS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE TRANSMISSION LINES. 
          UM, THERE ARE TREES IN THAT AREA. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY 
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IDENTIFIED A LOCATION IN THE, UH, NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, WHERE THERE IS A LARGE STAND OF OAK TREES, THE TRAIL WITH WIND THROUGH THAT AREA. 
          WE'VE HAD A TOUR WITH THE URBAN TRAILS STAFF TO WALK THE SITE. 
          UM, THEY WERE PLEASED WITH THE AMOUNT OF SHADE OF THE TREES ALONG THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PRETTY AND THE, UH, EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THERE WOULD BE NO SHADE ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE TREES CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTED IN A TRANSMISSION EASEMENT. 
          WE ALSO, FROM TIME TO TIME, NEED TO ACCESS OUR TRANSMISSION POLES, UH, THAT ARE ALONG THE WESTERN ALIGNMENT. 
          SO THE TRAIL WOULD NEED TO BE CLOSED PERIODICALLY WHENEVER WE NEED TO REACH OUR POLES THAT ARE ALONG THE TRANSMISSION LINE. 
          UM, SO, UM, ACCESS WOULD BE MORE PROBLEMATIC BOATS FOR THE UTILITY PERSONNEL AS WELL AS USERS OF THE TRAIL, BECAUSE THE TRAIL WOULD NEED TO BE CLOSED IN ORDER TO ACCESS THOSE FACILITIES. 
          I BELIEVE YOU'RE BACK ON THE LINE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO ADD ON THE SAFETY CONCERNS HERE. 
          ME. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. 
          I WAS HITTING STAR SIX, BUT IT WASN'T LETTING ME IN. 
          I HAD TO CALL BACK IN. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TRAILS THAT ARE UNDERNEATH TRANSMISSION LINE. 
          AND, UM, WE DID DO THE SEAHOLM PROJECT FOR DOWNTOWN, WHICH WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND VERY CHALLENGING. 
          AND MOST OF THE TRAILS AROUND TOWN THAT ARE UNDERNEATH TRANSMISSION LINES ARE, UM, WERE PUT THERE YEARS AGO, UM, IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES AND NINETIES, THE SIXTIES AND THE NATIONAL ELECTRIC SAFETY CODE HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE THEN. 
          UM, AS WELL AS OUR SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, EVEN FOR OUR PERSONNEL HAS CHANGED. 
          AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST THAT ISN'T ALWAYS THE MOST PRUDENT OR ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, BY REGULATORY AGENCIES IN THE CURRENT DAY IN TIME. 
          THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF UTILITY COMPANIES. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ENCORE, THEY DO THE BIG THREE 45 KV LINES. 
          YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS VERY DIFFERENT AND THE AVERAGE PERSON JUST LOOKING UP DOESN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND IT'S THIS SECTION OF OUR TRANSMISSION IS, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY HIGH POWER LINES. 
          AND IT IS REALLY NOT A SAFE PLACE TO BE. 
          IT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T DO, UM, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO MEET ALL OF THE NATIONAL DISTRICT SAFETY CODE REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO JUST PROVIDE SAFETY AND ACCESS SO THAT OUR CREWS CAN GET IN THERE AND MAINTAIN THINGS SO THAT WE DO HAVE RELIABLE SERVICE. 
          UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE OUTAGES. 
          SO I WOULD JUST, THAT'S ALL I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. 
          WE HAVE THE M MS. I GUESS TOM, WELL, MAYBE IT'S YOUR MOM. 
          CAN YOU COMMENT ABOUT THESE CHALLENGES AND POSSIBLY ANY DESIGN CONCEPTS THAT CAN MAYBE HELP TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN WITHIN THIS LITTLE TUNNEL AREA AS THEY CALL IT? SURE, SURE. 
          SO AGAIN, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF PRECEDENT. 
          UM, AUSTIN DOESN'T HAVE AS MANY PAVED TRAILS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES IT'S SIZE. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY LOW NOW IN REGARDS TO THE ARTS, SO MANY LOCAL EXAMPLES. 
          UM, SO A FEW THINGS, UM, ANOTHER THING IS AUSTIN ENERGY TENDS TO BE ONE OF MORE CONSERVATIVE AGENCIES WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, TO ALLOWING A APPROXIMATE USAGE, BUT JUST FAIL. 
          UM, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY REFLECT THE COMMON INDUSTRY STANDARD. 
          UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, I WILL NOTE THAT THE LEGISLATURE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, DID A FOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE LIBRARY REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO ALLOW MORE FRAIL IN, UM,  SO YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE OF THEM IN ACTUAL STATE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST ADD THERE A FEW OTHER THINGS I WOULD, I WOULD STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, REGULATION AND SAFETY GUIDELINES ALSO ALLOW FOR SOME THREES WITHIN THE MISSION LINE CORRIDORS. 
          THEY JUST CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THE TRANSMISSION LINES. 
          OBVIOUSLY I CAN ADD, BUT I'M NOT OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, I WILL, UM, ASK YOU TO CONTINUE THAT, THAT THOUGHT MR. WALL I'LL USE 
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MY TIME FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY IN THE VIA EMAIL IS THAT IT ACTUALLY IS IMPORTANT THAT THE EASEMENT NOT SIMPLY BE JUST WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE TRAIL ITSELF. 
          UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THIS AREA IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET, 30 FEET IDEALLY UP TO 50 FEET, BUT AGAIN, 20 OR 30 FEET WOULD WORK. 
          UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, AS, AS, UM, PUTTING TRAILS IN YOUR SUBSTATIONS OR UNDERNEATH TRANSMISSION LINES OR NEXT TO LOOK, OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF THAT. 
          UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BASICALLY CONCERNS OR JUST HOW IT FIT IN THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY TECHNICAL CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I WILL SAY THAT AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE NOT FOR URBAN SPRAWL STAFF, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, DEMONSTRATE HOW THE SPROCKETS FIT IN AND, UM, MEET SAFETY REGULATIONS AND GUIDELINES. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT GETS THEM TO BE A TECHNICAL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT. 
          AND EVEN IF I HAD THE FULL EXPERTISE TO GO THROUGH THE EXACT DIMENSIONS THAT ARE NEEDED, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE OVER THE PHONE, BUT I CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, I CAN TYPE EXAMPLES AND ALSO OTHER KINDS OF MISSION LINE, WHEREAS WITH BROWSER OR A COMMON, UM, THIS QUARTER PROCEED WITH AS A, AS A TRUCK QUARTER, PROCEEDS AUSTIN ENERGY'S OWNERSHIP OF IT. 
          I'LL SEND HER A G COULD PUT THE SUBSTATION ANOTHER PLACE ON THEIR SITE AND STILL MAKE IT ACCOMMODATING. 
          UM, THE PLAN TO BUILD FOR ALL THREE OTHER ROUTING, NOT YET BEEN DETERMINED AND WOULD ALMOST CERTAINLY REQUIRE SOME DESTRUCTION OF TREES. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE ALSO A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION THAT WE COMPLICATE MATTERS SHORT TRAIL THERE. 
          THANK YOU, PAMELA. 
          YES. 
          COULD I OFFER, COULD I, COULD I OFFER JUST, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THAT, MR. WARD? I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION. 
          I DO RIGHT NOW. 
          HAS ANYONE ASKED HER A QUESTION? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OH, UM, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SITE PLAN FOR OUR PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN DONE. 
          WE CANNOT PUT RESOURCES TOWARD THAT OR TIME TOWARD THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY BUILD. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE MET WITH URBAN TRAILS SEVERAL TIMES. 
          WE HAVE GONE OUT ON SITE AND TOURED THE PROPERTY WITH THEM. 
          WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEM. 
          WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS ON THIS INITIATIVE. 
          AND SO TO SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, OR WE HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING WITH THEM, THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY WRONG. 
          AND WE'VE MET WITH TENAE SMITH OR JANAE SPENCE. 
          WE'VE MET WITH KATIE WEBEX. 
          WE MET WITH THEIR DIRECTOR, UM, AND OUR EXECUTIVE STAFF. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY REALIZES WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT IS WE ARE ONLY AT THIS TIME ASKING FOR CIVIC USE TO BE ADDED TO THE NORTH BURNET GATEWAY CLAN. 
          THIS ISN'T A PLATFORM TO NEGOTIATE AN EASEMENT. 
          WE STILL HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN FOR THE SUBSTATION AND THE KRAMER FACILITY. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR MEETINGS AND CONTINUED WORKING AND, UM, WITH BOTH URBAN TRAILS AND THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM AND KEPT METRO, WE HAVE ALL OF THEM COMING TOGETHER IN JOINT MEETINGS, UM, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S VERY TECHNICAL AND IT IS TECHNICAL, AND IT IS AN ENGINEERING CHALLENGE FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THIS ZONING REQUEST IS TO ADD THE CIVIC USE TO THE NORTH BURNET GATEWAY PLANT SO THAT WE CONTINUE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE SITE PLANNING. 
          WE'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD, THERE WILL BE PUBLIC NOTICE. 
          THERE WILL BE PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH MR. WARD ANY TIME. 
          UM, AND IT'S JUST NOT THE PLATFORM TO NEGOTIATE AN EASEMENT. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE DOING THAT WITH URBAN TRAILS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY ARE OUR SISTER CITY DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE HOLDING THEIR HANDS, UM, MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER. 
          AND WE DEFINITELY WANT THE WIN WIN FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON 
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AND ITS COMMUNITIES AND ITS CITIZENS AND AUSTIN THAT ALL YES. 
          BIG GLASS. 
          I'VE GOT ONE MORE SPOT. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UH, AUTHOR ENERGY, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN YOU KEEP REFERRING TO AS MR. WARD IS ACTUALLY MR. WALD. 
          AND HOPEFULLY IF WE GIVE YOU TWO WEEKS TO WORK THIS OUT AND MEET WITH THEM, YOU CAN KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR AUSTIN ENERGY AND DO ME A FAVOR TYPE, REALLY BRIEF ANSWERS. 
          IF YOU WOULD. 
          UM, FIRST OFF, COULD WE PUT UP A PICTURE? UM, WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN GONE THROUGH SITE PLAN. 
          SO THE IDEA IS OF WHERE THE SUBSTATION ARE GOING TO BE AND WHATNOT. 
          YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SHOW US RIGHT NOW, OR DO YOU, WE DON'T, WE, WE HAVE AN AREA OF WHERE WE'D LIKE TO PUT IT. 
          UM, IT'S NOT REAL QUICK. 
          SO, UM, WHO OWNS, AND WHAT IS THE FATE OF THE RAILROAD, SIR? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DOUBLE TRACKED FOR AWHILE AND, UH, JUST GOT THE TIRE GRANT AND WE FINISHED THAT. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          AND THEN THERE'S, THERE'S A SPUR ALONG YOUR PROPERTY WHO OWNS THAT AND WHAT'S ITS FATE RIGHT NOW. 
          DO WE KNOW, IS THIS PART OF THE KRAMER SITE AND IT'S SPACE IS A LITTLE BIT UNDETERMINED. 
          IT WAS PART OF CAP METRO'S INITIAL PLAN TO READJUST THAT SPURG WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE DOUBLE TRACKING. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED OR IS IT NO, SIR, IT'S NOT. 
          AND WE ARE WILLING TO LET GO OF THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT THE DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR CAP METRO, AREN'T QUITE SO HEAVY AND, UM, INTERFERING WITH OUR SITE, BUT YES, WE ARE WILLING TO LET GO OF THAT. 
          IT IS NOT IN USE BY AUSTIN ENERGY OR ANY OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALL WORK TOGETHER ON THIS. 
          SO I FOUND SOMETHING A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC. 
          UM, YOU GUYS HAVE POINTED OUT THAT IT SEEMS PROBLEMATIC AND ILLOGICAL TO PUT THE TRAIL THERE. 
          AND I'D BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS TRAIL GOING THERE FOR OVER 15 YEARS. 
          AND SO I'M STARTING TO WONDER IF IT'S THE TRAIL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE GOING THERE THAT EVERYONE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR, WELL, OVER A DECADE, THAT'S A LOGICAL OR THE PLACEMENT OF WHERE WE'RE POSSIBLY THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THIS SUBSTATION. 
          DID I HEAR THAT THIS SITE IS 33 ACRES? IS THAT CORRECT? THE SITE IS 33 ACRES AND IT IS A SECURE FACILITY. 
          AND WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE SITE OF THE DOWNTOWN STATION OR THE HOLLY STATION, ROUGHLY THE PARANOIA SUBSTATION AT HOLLY, THE OLD HOLLY POWER PLANT, RIGHT? JUST THE SUBSTATION PIECE. 
          YES. 
          TYPICALLY THEY'RE FIVE TO SIX ACRES. 
          IS THAT THE SAME FOR YOUR DOWNTOWN SITE? THE DOWNTOWN SITE, SUSAN, IF YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE, SUSAN'S AT THAT PROJECT. 
          SO SHE WOULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE THE ACREAGE DOWN THERE, IT'S JUST ONE CITY BLOCK. 
          SO I GUESS IT'S NOT MORE THAN THAT. 
          AND OF COURSE THERE'S SIDEWALKS ALL THE WAY AROUND IT AND A NICE TRAIL. 
          THE LOCATION OF THE SUBSTATION, IT IS COMMON FOR SUBSTATIONS TO BE IN A, YOU KNOW, FOUR TO EIGHT ACRE SIZE. 
          THE LOCATION OF THE SUBSTATION IS KIND OF DICTATED BY THE TRAJECTORY OF THE TRANSMISSION LINES. 
          AND AS WELL AS THE PLACEMENT OF THE DISTRIBUTION GETAWAYS THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE SUBSTATION. 
          ALSO IN KEEPING WITH THE PLANNING REQUIREMENTS IN THE AREA, WE DON'T INTEND ON PUTTING THE SUBSTATION ALONG KRAMER LANE. 
          UM, IT WILL BE PUSHED BACK FURTHER ON THE SPOT AND IT'S IS IT AUSTIN? ENERGY'S INTENT TO BE A ROADBLOCK OF THE BIG TRAIL INITIATIVE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AWESOME. 
          GOOD TO HEAR THAT. 
          I'M MR. WALL, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE TWO WEEKS THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PUSH THIS BACK. 
          DO YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO SIT WITH AUSTIN ENERGY IN THAT NEXT TWO WEEKS? AND HOPEFULLY OUR URBAN TRAILS CAN BE IN THE ROOM ALSO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEM PLAYING MIDDLEMAN, MAYBE ISN'T WORKING OUT SO WELL, SO IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          AND YOU COULD YOU MAKE TIME FOR THAT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS? YEAH. 
          SURE. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          DO YOU GUYS THINK YOU CAN FIND TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH MR. WALTON AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON THIS INITIATIVE? CERTAINLY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I THINK THAT'S ALL CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I GUESS IF I'M EIGHT, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE WEEKS SECOND DAY IN A CONDITIONER SHEA, AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO, YOU MENTIONED, I THINK WE LAID IT OUT. 
          I THINK AUSTIN ENERGY DEFINITELY HAS SOME WORK TO DO HERE AND LOVE HEARING THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOT PUT FORWARD THEIR SITE PLAN YET IS A 33 ACRE SITE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON MANY, MANY URBAN TRAILS AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE DIRECTLY UNDER HUGE OVERHEAD LOT WIRES. 
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MY UNCLE LIVES NEXT TO THE ONE IN DALLAS AND THEY TOOK THAT SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY BUILD THEM, BUT YOU CAN PUT A GREAT TRAILER AND, YOU KNOW, GO GET RIGHT NEXT TO TRANSFORMER SITES AND RESTRICT GANEK WIRES OVER YOUR HEAD. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING JUST TO SAY, NO, IT'S ANOTHER THING TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS THE DOMAIN. 
          THIS IS AUSTIN. 
          SECOND DOWNTOWN. 
          THIS LAND IS UNBELIEVABLY VALUABLE AND THIS TRAIL IS GOING TO BE PRICELESS. 
          THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF AUSTIN. 
          SO AUSTIN ENERGY DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO HERE BEFORE JUST SAYING NO AND TRYING TO GROUND IT ON THE OTHER WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY. 
          THAT'S JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY HERE AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY'LL COME UP WITH. 
          RIGHT? ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION TO POSTPONE MYSTERY SHOP. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBSTITUTE MOTION IF I CAN GET A SECOND FOUR, I'M GOING WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I CAN EXPLAIN THAT IF I CAN GET A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOT SUBSTITUTE FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS BECAUSE WHEN MARKETING, I THINK POSTPONEMENT TAKES PRECEDENT. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE AWAY FROM POINT OF VIEW OR FROM A, FROM A POST SUMMIT, LIKE SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS APPROPRIATE. 
          HMM. 
          SO LET ME EXPLAIN, UM, THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE TRAIL, THIS SITE, THE PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS LOCATION IS IN, EVEN IF THEY WERE TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS, IT NEEDS TO CHANGE. 
          I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY ARGUING THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE A SUBSTATION HERE. 
          UH, IT JUST, IT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE IT MIGHT ALIGN WITH, UH, WITH THE TRAIL HERE, YOU KNOW, ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. 
          SO THIS ACTION IT TWO WEEKS, ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING. 
          THEY NEED THIS ZONING OR THIS CHANGE, SORRY, NOT ZONING CHANGE. 
          CLIMATE CHANGE TO PUT A SUBSTATION ON THE SITE. 
          IF WE'RE SAYING WE'RE OPPOSED TO THEM PUTTING A SUBSTATION ON THE SITE, THEN I CAN SEE POSTPONING, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY ARGUING AGAINST THE SUBSTATION AT THIS LOCATION THAT WOULD COME AT TREMENDOUS COST TO THE CITY TO FIND THE LAND AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DOMAIN, WHICH I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS REALLY PERTINENT. 
          UH, ANY DELAY REALLY? IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. 
          I MEAN, WE NEED A SUBSTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY MR. TIKI AGAINST YOU SUBSTITUTION MR. SHEA. 
          SO WE, SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT A SUBSTATION THERE. 
          I MEAN, HAVING THIS THING GET POSTPONED YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT SLOWING IT DOWN, GOING TO COUNCIL. 
          I MEAN, IT COULD STILL KEEP THAT DATE, BUT WHAT WE DID DO WAS WE GOT IT. 
          WE'VE GOT BOTH SIDES WILLING TO COME AND SIT DOWN AND TALK, OKAY. 
          TO GIVE THAT CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT. 
          SURE. 
          IN THE END. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, WE GOT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE YOU KNOW, CIVIC USE IN A PLAN. 
          YES. 
          BUT WHAT WE DID DO HERE WAS BROUGHT A COMMITMENT FROM BOTH SIDES TO COME TO THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT IT. 
          AND I DON'T SEE WHAT THE HARM IS THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE NOT DELAYING THE PROCESS ANY BIT, BECAUSE IT COULD STILL GO TO COUNSELING. 
          ANY COMMISSIONERS SPEAKING FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION WAS NURSING. 
          YEAH. 
          WE ARE POSTED TO TALK ABOUT PERMITTED USES AND CHANGING THE PERMITTED USES SO THAT THE SUBSTATION CAN GO FORWARD. 
          WE'RE NOT POSTED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE. 
          I QUESTION WHETHER POSTPONING TO THIS SO THAT PARTIES CAN DISCUSS SOMETHING ELSE. 
          THEY'LL BRING IT BACK TO US. 
          WHEN WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS TO ADD THESE CIVIC USES SO THAT SUBSTATION CAN GO FORWARD. 
          THE PARTIES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. 
          SO WE REALLY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SOLVE IT IN TWO WEEKS. 
          THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE. 
          LET'S GET THE PERMITTED USES AND BED. 
          LET THEM DISCUSS IT. 
          ANY COMMISSIONERS AGAINST A SUBSTITUTION MISSIONARY UNDERSTANDING, LET SOMEONE ELSE GO FIRST IT'S MISSIONARY SCHNEIDER. 
          UH, SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP THIS ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA FOR THE 29TH, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME WEIRD WAY, WE MIGHT BE DOING AUSTIN ENERGY, 
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A FAVOR, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME PROGRESS ON THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THE SAME FIGHT BEFORE COUNCIL, THAT'LL SAVE EVERYBODY A BUNCH OF HEADACHE. 
          UM, IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE TO DO IT THIS WAY. 
          I HEAR WHAT AUSTIN ENERGY HAS TO SAY, BUT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT CORE TO THE ISSUE THAT IS BEFORE US, NEVERTHELESS, IT IS BEFORE US. 
          AND SO LET'S GIVE IT TWO WEEKS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING OUT OF ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SUBSTITUTION. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER SEGER AND, UM, CHERISH SHAW THAT YOU KNOW, WERE POSTED FOR PER THE PERMITTED USES. 
          I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM AUSTIN ENERGY SAYING THEY WOULD NOT WORK WITH, UM, THE RED TRAIL, UM, PEOPLE, SO THEY CAN STILL GET TOGETHER THESE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO POSTPONE. 
          SO I'M VOTING FOR THE SUBSTITUTION AND FINAL COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTION, PUSHING YOUR CON PERSONALLY. 
          I KNOW YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 
          I'LL LET GREG GO. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, YEAH, I, WASN'T GOING TO PULL THIS, UM, AND TO BE CLEAR IF THIS CHANGE MEANT THAT FOR SOME REASON WE ARE PUTTING IN THE RED LINE TRAIL IN JEOPARDY, I WOULD WANT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT NO ON THAT 100%, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST INCREDIBLY CRITICAL. 
          YOU CAN'T MOVE THIS TRAIL SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. 
          WHEREAS A TRANSFORMER SITE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING A FIVE TO SIX ACRE PIECE OF A 33 ACRE PIE, HOW AUSTIN ENERGY CAN'T WORK TO MAKE THAT FIT. 
          AND I'M JUST NOT SURE, I BELIEVE IT WAS MRS. ENGLISH WHO SAID, WE NEED TO WORK IT OUT TO WHERE, UM, THIS WORKS FOR EVERYBODY AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. 
          WE'RE JUST TOTALLY NOT THERE YET. 
          AND IT'D BE GREAT TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, FOR AUSTIN ENERGY TO CHALLENGE THEIR TEAM, YOU KNOW, QUITE OFTENTIMES THEY'RE 800 POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM, AND IT'S JUST A HAIR IRONIC RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD OF ABOUT A HUNDRED, MAYBE EVEN A THOUSAND DEVELOPERS TALK ABOUT AUSTIN ENERGY BEING AFFORDABLE, THEIR DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND NOW AUSTIN ENERGY IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS US TO MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY. 
          AND I GET IT AND IT'S A, IT'S A CITY ASSET AND WE LOVE OUR UTILITY, BUT WE ALSO LOVE OUR TRAILS AND OUR SCREEN SPACES. 
          AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE RED LINE AS WELL. 
          AND IT JUST MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD. 
          WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT TO WHERE THIS CAN HAPPEN HERE. 
          AND IF THAT'S A DANGEROUS SPACE FOR PEOPLE, IS THAT A DANGEROUS SPACE FOR TRAINS? I MEAN, AUSTIN ENERGY OBVIOUSLY HAS TO THINK THROUGH ALL OF THAT. 
          AND SO I'M EXCITED FOR THEM TO ALL SIT DOWN TOGETHER, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE AUSTIN ENERGY HAS NOT ACTUALLY SAT DOWN DIRECTLY WITH THE RED LINE INITIATIVE. 
          AND SO THIS WILL GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          NOT OKAY. 
          THAT IS ALL THE SPOTS. 
          UM, SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WHICH WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE, UM, THE REGULATING. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION THREE, ALL THOSE AGAINST TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, UH, ABSTAINING MR. CONNOLLY. 
          I DON'T THINK I GOT YOURS OUT. 
          YOU'RE IMMUNE. 
          I BRING TO THE FIRST MOTION TO POSTPONE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU COULD SAY YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, CORRECT. 
          FIGURING THIS OUT. 
          I'LL GET BETTER. 
          SO I'VE GOT THREE EIGHT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, WHICH IS TO POSTPONE THIS CASE TO OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS THE 27TH OF OCTOBER. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, THOSE AGAINST THREE, FOUR, AND THERE'S A STAINING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT MOTION PASSES ON THIS ONE AND SO ON TO CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          MR. RIVERA CONNECT THE PARTIES IN CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER. 
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YEP. 
          YEP. 
          IF I CAN JUST MAKE A COMMENT, I WISH IT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, STAFF TALKING US THROUGH THIS, IN THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS NOT POSTED PARTICULARLY FOR THIS SESSION, BUT I WILL BE BACK IN THE SUTURE STAFF AND HAVE SOME VISUALS OR MAPS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND. 
          I THINK I FOLLOWED IT. 
          I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IF MY, THE IMAGE IN MY HEAD IS A GREG IMAGE. 
          SO I REALLY HOPE THAT I NOTICE IS NOT EVEN FOR THE NEXT MEETING EMOTION ON IT, BUT IN THE FUTURE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES UP, I WOULD REALLY BE SURE TO STAFF AND GIVE US SOME VISUALS TO FOLLOW. 
          PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ONE SUCH COMPLEX MISSIONARIES ARE ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO BE 15 
          [B15. Code Amendment:
Austin Community Climate Plan Revision]
AND CHERISH HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THIS TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ITEM, THE 15 CUT AMENDMENT, UH, AUSTIN COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN REVISION. 
          AND LET ME JUST GO OVER KIND OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED THROUGH THIS. 
          I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT SO WE CAN GET THROUGH IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT HAVE AS MUCH A DISCUSSION AS WE NEED. 
          SO LET JUST OUTLINE THE FRAMEWORK HERE. 
          UH, SO WE'LL START WITH AN INTRODUCTION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER SNYDER. 
          UH, HE IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, THEN WE'LL THEN MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION FROM SAC BOMBER WITH, UH, STAFF, UH, UH, AND THEN WE'LL DO OUR Q AND A AS USUAL AND THEN, UH, KIND OF MOVING, WELL, ACTUALLY LET'S DO THIS, LET'S GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN I'LL INTRODUCE THE PROCESS. 
          THAT WAY WILL BE FRESH ON OUR MINDS AS WE KINDA MOVE THROUGH THE AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN. 
          SO I WON'T DESCRIBE THAT AT THIS POINT. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, WITH YOUR INTRODUCTION AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION, CHOKING, APPRECIATE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW THE CLIMATE PLAN. 
          UH, I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THE CLIMATE PLAN, UH, WAS FIRST ADOPTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THERE'S A REGULAR SCHEDULE FOR REVIEW. 
          UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF, I THINK, MAJOR THEMES TO THIS REVISED DIVERSION. 
          UM, THE FIRST IS OUR REAL FOCUS ON INTEGRATING EQUITY INTO THE PLAN. 
          AND AS YOU HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM, UH, FROM STAFF TODAY, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE EXAMPLES OF HOW EQUITY IS REALLY BUILT INTO THE PLAN, UH, AS A KEY CONSIDERATION FOR, UH, ALL THE REVISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE. 
          UM, THE SECOND THING IS, UH, AN IMPROVEMENT IN OUR, UH, AND OUR GOAL TO GET TO A NET ZERO, UH, INSTEAD OF IT BEING 2050, WE'RE MOVING THAT GOAL TO 2040 AND THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY REQUIRES A LOT OF EFFORT ON THE PART OF US ON THE PART OF EVERYBODY AND OFFSET. 
          HEY COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY. 
          I, I, YOUR TIME IS PART OF THE PRESENTATION I'M BEING NOTIFIED. 
          SO I NEED TO GET A MOTION. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOW 30 MINUTES. 
          THIS IS FOR THE FULL PRESENTATION. 
          CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE NEED A SUPER MAJORITY TO MAKE THIS GO FORWARD TO GIVE A 30 MINUTES TOTAL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL FIRST BY A COMMISSIONER OF BIZARRE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ON PALITO. 
          SO WE CAN PLEASE VOTE ON EXTENDING 30 MINUTES FOR THE FULL PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S A VICE CHAIR, A HANDFUL. 
          DO YOU HAVE A REVOLTING? OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, TEN ONE 12 ONE. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? NO, UH, YEAH. 
          11 ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S UH, LET'S CONTINUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE CHAIR. 
          I'VE JUST ANOTHER 30 SECONDS. 
          UM, SO, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING THAT, UM, ZACH IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROCESS. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL. 
          UM, A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AT THE COMMUNITY AND A COUPLE OF CHANGES IN THE APPROACHES THAT THE PLAN MAKES ONE IS A FOCUS ON CONSUMPTION-BASED ADMISSIONS, THAT'S FOOD, MORE OR LESS, AND ON NATURAL SYSTEM, THIS BATCH, UM, UH, UNDEVELOPED, LAND PARKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND MY HATS ARE REALLY ALL MY HATS OFF TO, UH, THE STAFF, AS WELL AS VERY MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHO'VE WORKED TO MAKE THIS A POSSIBILITY. 
          [02:35:01]
UM, THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN BRIEFED, AND I THINK I'VE BEEN GIVING YOU TEASERS FOR THIS FOR MANY MONTHS. 
          SO, UM, MR. CHAIR, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, YES, WE HAVE, UH, ZACH VOLLMER AND ZACH HERE FROM THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR US? YUP. 
          YUP. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS ZACH BOMBER. 
          I AM THE CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION? UH, NOT YET. 
          WE'LL WAIT ON STAFF TO BRING THAT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL TAKE MY NOTES UP. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT THE, UH, FIRST THE COVER SHEET TO THE AUSTIN CLIMATE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, SO THIS IS, UH, I WILL STICK TO UNDER 30 MINUTES ON THIS. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY THE 24TH COMMISSION THAT I PRESENTED THIS TO. 
          UM, THIS AFTERNOON WAS 23 AND THIS IS 24. 
          AND THIS IS THE LAST OF ALL OF THE COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING ON THIS. 
          SO, UM, UH, I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU TODAY. 
          THIS REASON, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE REVISION TO THIS, UH, THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN, WHICH IS NOW CALLED, CALLED THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN HAS BEEN AN EFFORT OF, YOU KNOW, OVER A HUNDRED COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING, YOU KNOW, FOR BASICALLY YEAR TO REVIT. 
          UM, AND PEOPLE HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO THIS. 
          UM, I GUESS I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, LIKE, I'M NOT A FREQUENT OR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT, UM, UH, YOU GUYS WERE VERY FOCUSED ON LIKE RULES AND, AND ZONING AND LIKE LOTS OF VERY SPECIFIC THINGS. 
          UM, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS PLAN IS AN ASPIRATIONAL PLAN. 
          THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, COMBINING A PLAN TO ADDRESS RACIAL EQUITY WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANY, UM, ORDINANCES CHANGING ANY LIKE ZONING RULES. 
          WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS PLAN. 
          THE IDEA IS THAT WE PROVIDE ASPIRATIONAL DIRECTION AND TARGETS AND, UM, FOUR AREAS THAT AFFECT THE ASK GAS EMISSIONS FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT AREN'T ADDRESSED IN OTHER AREAS. 
          UM, SO THE CITY PLANS AND CITY OPERATIONS. 
          SO THE IDEA IS HERE IS THAT IT'S BIG PICTURE AND WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF ENVISION THE FUTURE, UM, TO ADDRESS, UH, ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE IN THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SECOND, WELL IN SUMMARY, SO AS I SAID, UM, THE FULL DRAFT, UH, THE LONG VERSION AND THE SHORT VERSION OF THE FULL DRAFT OF THIS PLAN, UH, WERE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE ENTIRE MONTH OF, UH, SEPTEMBER, WE RECEIVED LIKE 1500 PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          UM, AS I SAID, WE'VE PRESENTED TO 23 OTHER COMMISSIONS. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT FROM WHAT I HEAR NOW IS THAT SOME OF OUR STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT TAKING THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 12TH. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR YOU ALL FROM TODAY, IT'S LIKE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, AREAS OF INTEREST TO ONGOING SUPPORT ON THIS, UM, OF THOSE 23 COMMISSIONS THAT I'VE, UH, SPOKE TO FIVE OF THE COMMISSIONS HAVE JUST PRE HAVE PASSED RESOLUTION SAYING THEY SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE PLAN. 
          I THINK TWO TO THREE COMMISSIONS HAVE PASSED RESOLUTIONS THAT SAY THAT WE SUPPORT IT, BUT HERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR YOU TO LIKE LOOK INTO OR MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO IT, SORT OF LIKE A, UM, A RECOMMENDATION WITH LIKE A COMMENT FOR CHANGE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE VAST MAJORITY OF COMMISSIONS HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING. 
          THEY'VE JUST ASKED ME QUESTIONS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT IT, AND THEN THEY MOVED ON WITH THEIR BUSINESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SLIDE, UH, THE 2015 COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN. 
          SO IN 2014 CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE TARGET OF NET ZERO COMMUNITY-WIDE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY 2050. 
          ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS ENVISIONING A CITY IN 2050, WHERE WE ARE USING ALMOST NO FOSSIL FUELS FOR ELECTRICITY, FOR TRANSPORTATION, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES, THAT IS A VERY ASPIRATIONAL TARGET. 
          UM, SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T EVEN EXIST TO GET THERE YET. 
          UM, BUT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THOUSANDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE WORLD, BUT IF COMMITTED 
          [02:40:01]
TO THIS SIMILAR TARGET, UM, TO DRAMATICALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS, UM, AND I GUESS I WOULD SORT OF SAY WITH LIKE THE LACK OF FEDERAL AND STATE DIRECTION AND LIKE SUPPORT ON CLIMATE ACTION, CITY PLANS, CITY EFFORTS TO ADDRESS THE EMISSIONS, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, IN OR OUT OF THE CITY SCOPE, THAT IS, I THINK IT'S BECOME A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE SORT OF GLOBAL FINAL CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          SO ANYWAY, THIS 2014, 15, UH, PLAN, I WORKED WITH STAKEHOLDERS BACK THEN FIVE YEARS AGO, WE CREATED THIS INITIAL PLAN. 
          UM, SO THIS HAS BEEN AN UNDER IMPLEMENTATION FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
          DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKING ACTION. 
          WE'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS TAKE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THIS PLANNING EFFORT AND WHAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE RESOLUTION AND ADOPTED THIS FIRST PLAN WAS THAT WE SHOULD REVISE THE PLAN EVERY FIVE YEARS. 
          SO LAST SPRING, 2019, WE STARTED TALKING WITH THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE ABOUT REVISING THE PLAN. 
          AND SO WE SET OUT ON THIS PATH TO DO A FULL REVISION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, HOW WAS THE PLAN UPTAKE CREATED? SO BASICALLY WHAT WAS DONE IS THAT WE, WE STARTED, UM, OVER A YEAR AGO, UH, WE HAD ABOUT 24 CITY STAFF AND ABOUT 10 DEPARTMENTS THAT COLLABORATED ON THAT OVER 120 COMMUNITY MEMBERS SERVE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND ON ADVISORY GROUPS. 
          SO THESE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST ASKED TO LIKE COME TO ONE MEETING. 
          THESE WERE PEOPLE THAT COMMITTED TO COME TO LIKE 20 PLUS MEETINGS, UM, BASICALLY EVERY OTHER WEEK SINCE LAST FALL. 
          UM, SO, UH, PEOPLE, PEOPLE COMMITTED TO THIS, UM, AND, UH, REALLY LIKE THE STORY OF THE CREATION OF THIS PLAN IS CO-CREATION. 
          SO THIS IS LIKE, WE ARE INVITING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN, WE ARE ENTRUSTING, UH, COLLABORATING AND WORKING WITH THEM ON THIS PROCESS. 
          AND THEN WE GOT TOGETHER AND LIKE, DID ALL THIS STUDY, Y'ALL BE ANALYSIS AND DID THE WORK TO PROPOSE THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LATER. 
          THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS DOCUMENTED THERE. 
          UM, OTHER THINGS FROM OUR PROCESS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS HAVE BEEN DONATED BY THE COMMUNITY TO COME CREATE THIS, UH, THIS PLAN WITH US NEXT SLIDE, STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          I JUST HAVE TO PUT ALL THE NAMES OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS UP HERE, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, WE, WE, WE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO, UM, RECRUITING THESE FOLKS, UH, TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE KNEW THAT BEING THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS SORT OF MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THIS PROCESS. 
          SO THEY, THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE NOW IN MEETING 23, THEY HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW THEY'VE BEEN MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK THAT RECENTLY THEY NEED TO MEET EVERY WEEK. 
          UM, AND THEY GIVE ME THE GUIDANCE ON LIKE, WHAT ARE WE INCLUDING? WHAT ARE WE NOT INCLUDING, LIKE, HOW ARE WE SAYING TARGETS? LIKE, UM, ALL OF THE BIG QUESTION THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN, UM, AT THE TABLE ALL ALONG THE WAY, AND REALLY IT'S SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO THE CO-CHAIRS. 
          I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM EVERY SINGLE WEEK SINCE LIKE, WOW, LAST NOVEMBER. 
          SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO INEQUITIES IN THE CITY, UM, WHEN WE GOT STARTED IN THIS PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WERE, UH, GIVE THEM THE GUIDANCE THAT WE NEED TO CENTER EQUITY. 
          IN THIS PROCESS, I BEGAN BEGAN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WENT ON THIS JOURNEY, UM, TO ESSENTIALLY DO A CITY PLANNING PROCESS FOCUSED ON RACIAL EQUITY AND TO TRY LOTS OF THINGS DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, AND ALL OF THIS SORT OF COMES BACK TO LIKE THE HISTORY OF INEQUITIES IN OUR CITY THAT STARTED A LONG TIME AGO, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN PERPETUATED THROUGH THE DECADES, UM, THAT HAVE RESULTED IN, YOU KNOW, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES, GENTRIFICATION ISSUES, UM, ON EQUAL ECONOMIC OUTCOMES, UNEQUAL HEALTH OUTCOMES. 
          AND THESE THINGS EXIST TODAY. 
          AND REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT LIKE, UM, NOT A FEW, NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS HISTORY, BUT ONCE EVERYONE SORT OF GETS ON THE SAME PAGE AND UNDERSTANDS THAT LIKE, THIS IS REALLY THE AUSTIN THAT WE LIVE IN, UM, IT SORT OF BECAME IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT SEND HER EQUITY AT, UM, AT THE HEART OF A PROCESS LIKE THIS. 
          SO NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS THE CLIMATE PLAN LIKE, UH, THE CLIMATE IS IN CRISIS. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR CITY COUNCIL IS CLIMATE EMERGENCY RESOLUTION. 
          WE ARE STILL TO THIS DAY, YOU KNOW, ADMITTING OVER 50 BILLION, TONS OF CO2 PER YEAR GLOBALLY. 
          UM, THIS IS ALL THE BURNING OF COAL OIL AND NATURAL GAS. 
          IT HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION. 
          IT HAS CREATED LIFE AS WE KNOW IT. 
          UM, BUT THE CLIMATE HAS BEGUN TO CHANGE. 
          CHANGE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE. 
          AND IF WE DON'T DRAMATICALLY REDUCE EMISSIONS GLOBALLY, WE ARE ON THE DIRECTION TO MORE LIKE FOUR DEGREES C OR HIGHER OR BORING. 
          UM, SO THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS OF LIKE TAKING DRASTIC ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE, 
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NEXT SLIDE, CLIMATE PROJECTIONS. 
          SO THIS PLANT IS NOT FOCUSED ON HOW CLIMATE CHANGE ITSELF WILL AFFECT US AND HOW WE SHOULD ADAPT OR BECOME MORE RESILIENT TO THAT. 
          THERE WERE OTHER CITY PLANNING EFFORTS TO MY OFFICE WORKS ON DOING THAT, BUT THIS PLAN, THE PLAN IS REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE REDUCE THE EMISSIONS, BUT IT WAS, I WAS SAYING THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IN MOST PEOPLE'S MINDS, THEY DON'T SEPARATE THOSE TWO THINGS. 
          SO IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT, UH, THE WAY THE CLIMATE HAS ALREADY BEGUN TO CHANGE AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE IS HIGHER TEMPERATURES, EXTREME HEAT, MORE DROUGHT, MORE INCREASED RISK OF WILDFIRE AND MORE INTENSE, INTENSE RAIN AND FLOODING. 
          UH, WE ALREADY EXPERIENCED THOSE THAT EXTREME WEATHER, BUT IT'S JUST PROJECTED TO GET MORE INTENSE AND HAVING MORE FREQUENTLY. 
          UM, AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT, LIKE, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES AND, UM, YOU LIVE IN THE RIGHT AREA, LIKE SOME OF YOU AREN'T AFFECTED BY IT VERY MUCH BY SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          UM, BUT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY THESE CLIMATE HAZARDS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER THAT, UM, THAT WE, THEM IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AS RELATED TO LIKE HOW THE CLIMATE WILL ACTUALLY AFFECT US. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, MR. BOMBER, JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK WORD ABOUT, UM, UH, I'VE GOT TO READ ABOUT 15, GET ABOUT 15 MORE MINUTES, SO JUST PRIORITIZE YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THAT. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          SO THE BOTTOM LINE WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO CLIMATE EQUITY, WE SPENT, WE HAD A WORKSHOP AT ALL. 
          PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPATED IN REALLY WHERE WE WERE. 
          WE ENDED UP CENTERING THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN CLIMATE CHANGE AND RACIAL EQUITY WAS PRIORITIZING THESE SEVEN VALUES IN THE CENTER FOR ALL AUSTINITES TO, TO ACHIEVE THROUGH ACTIONS, UM, THAT WE WILL TAKE, UH, RELATED TO REDUCING EMISSIONS. 
          SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT IF WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING EQUITY AND A PLANNING EFFORT LIKE THIS, THAT WE WOULD JUST BE PERPETUATING INJUSTICE AND THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, NEXT YEAR BY 2050, AS ROB MENTIONED, UM, THE ORIGINAL GOAL THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED WAS NET ZERO BY 2050. 
          THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS PROPOSING THAT WE CHANGE THE GOAL TO BE NET ZERO BY 2040, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE STEEP DECLINE HERE. 
          SO THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A MORE DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN EMISSIONS SOONER, UM, WHICH WE THINK IS NECESSARY. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS CHART IS THE, THE GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY OR THE CARBON FOOTPRINT FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS JUST A DIRECT CART, DIRECT CARBON FOOTPRINT. 
          SO THIS IS THE BURNING OF ALL THE FOSSIL FUELS, LIKE IN OUR AREA. 
          UM, THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT LIFE CYCLE EMISSIONS AND THE BIGGER PICTURE OF LIKE ALL THE FOOD AND ALL THE BUILDING MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING IS IMPORTED INTO AUSTIN, THIS FOOTPRINT GROWS BY LIKE 60%. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SOME ACTIONS THAT ADDRESS THOSE OTHER AREAS. 
          BUT THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT, UH, FOR THE LONGEST TIME, THE LARGEST SOURCE OF EMISSIONS WAS, UH, ENERGY USE ELECTRICITY USE AND NATURAL GAS USE IN BUILDINGS, UM, THROUGH AUSTIN ENERGY, IMPLEMENTING THEIR PLANS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS AND THROUGH THE, THE TRAJECTORY OF THEM DECARBONIZING THE ELECTRICITY, OUR CITY, UM, ELECTRICITY, THE, THE PORTION FROM BUILDINGS IS GOING TO SHRINK DRAMATICALLY. 
          UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OFFERING, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, DELIVERING A HUNDRED PERCENT OR 90% CARBON FREE POWER BY 20, 27 TALL BUILDINGS ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, SO THEN AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SECOND MAJOR SOURCE OF EMISSIONS HERE IS TRANSPORTATION. 
          TRANSPORTATION IS THE ISSUE. 
          IT'S THE BURNING OF ALL OF THE GASOLINE AND DIESEL TO MOVE ALL OF THE CARS AND TRUCKS AROUND OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY. 
          OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. 
          I'M PLAYING AMONG PLANS. 
          SO WHAT WE ENDED UP FOCUSING WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS PLANNING EFFORT AND REALLY SCOPING THIS OUT, YOU KNOW, THE KEY THING IS THAT WE HAD TO FIT THIS PLAN WITHIN ALL THESE OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS, RIGHT? THERE'S A STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. 
          THERE'S PROJECT CONNECT. 
          THERE'S AN ENERGY GENERATION PLAN. 
          THERE'S THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROCESS. 
          THERE'S THIS CHEESY HOUSING BLUE PRINT, LIKE THERE'S ALL OF THESE OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS THAT LIKE, WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY JUST GO IN AND LIKE SET NEW TARGETS IN AREAS THAT WERE KIND OF LIKE OUT OF BOUNDS FOR THIS PLANNING AREA. 
          SO WHAT WE ENDED UP WORKING THE SPACE THAT WE FOUND KIND OF IN BETWEEN ALL OF THESE OTHER PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THESE FIVE SECTIONS. 
          SO THIS IS WHAT WE CREATED, WHERE WE CREATED THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES, SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIFICATION, TRANSPORTATION, LAND, USE, NATURAL SYSTEMS CONSUMPTION, NEXT SLIDE, UH, EQUITY PROCESS. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SLIDE, BUT WE CREATED AN EQUITY TOOL BASED ON THE GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE AND RACE AND EQUITIES, UM, EQUITY EVALUATION PROCESS, ALL OF OUR ADVISORY GROUPS STEP THROUGH THIS PROCESS WHEN THEY WERE CREATING THEIR GOALS AND STRATEGIES, IT WAS SORT OF EMBEDDED IN OUR WORK NEXT SLIDE, UH, CLIMATE AMBASSADORS. 
          UM, WE DID A 
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LOT OF WORK TO, UM, TO REACH A MUCH MORE DIVERSE, UM, SET OF INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SIGNING PROCESS. 
          ONE SPECIFICALLY UNIQUE THING, THAT BRAND NEW THING THAT WE TRIED IS THIS CLIMATE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. 
          WE ESSENTIALLY REIMBURSED, WE PAID THESE INDIVIDUALS AS INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTORS TO BE AMBASSADORS OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. 
          SO THESE INDIVIDUALS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, TALK TO THEIR FRIENDS, TALK TO THEIR NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, DID REPORTS LIKE DIDN'T DID THEIR SORT OF LIKE GATHERED INFORMATION ON WHAT ARE OUR REAL, WHAT THESE PEOPLE COMMUNITIES THINK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, UM, AND THINK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN OUR CITY, UM, AND REPORTED THAT BACK TO US. 
          SO WE SAID THIS INFORMATION LIKE DIRECTLY INTO OUR PLANNING PROCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ONTO THE DRAFT GOALS AND STRATEGIES. 
          SO NOW I'M ON THE SLIDE THAT SAYS SUMMARY. 
          SO SLIDE 15. 
          SO THE SUMMARY OF WHAT'S IN THIS WHOLE PLAN IS 18 QUANTITATIVE GOALS, 75 STRATEGIES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, AND, UH, CENTERING ON EQUITY THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE STRATEGIES THAT ALL OF THE SPECIFICS ON LIKE HOW WE WILL ACTUALLY GET THESE THINGS IMPLEMENTED. 
          NEXT SLIDE CROSS-CUTTING STRATEGIES. 
          SO THREE STRATEGIES CAME TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE TOP THAT WERE IDENTIFIED KIND OF ACROSS ALL OF OUR GROUPS. 
          SO FIRST ONE IS TO PRIORITIZE GREEN JOBS AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, AS WE USED TO LIKE NEW TYPES OF INDUSTRIES, NEW TYPES OF ENERGY SOURCES, ET CETERA. 
          THE SECOND ONE IS WE HAVE TO GET BETTER ON REGIONAL COLLABORATION ON THIS ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S COLLABORATION WITH OTHER TEXAS CITIES AND RECENTLY ADOPTED A CLIMATE PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR SURROUNDING SUBURBAN CITIES, WHERE WE ARE INTERCONNECTED WITH THEM, WITH TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, WITH ENERGY ISSUES, UM, WE NEED TO GET BETTER. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'S GOING TO LIKELY BE THE NEED FOR CARBON OFFSET AND EVENTUALLY CARBON DIOXIDE REMOVAL FROM THE ATMOSPHERE. 
          UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, WE DO SOME, SOME OF THE EMISSIONS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE JUST GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO GET TO YOU IN THIS TIME PERIOD. 
          SO WE JUST SORT OF HAVE TO KEEP THAT ON THE BACK BURNER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW TO THE ACTUAL GOALS AND STRATEGIES, I'M NOT GOING TO WALK THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE, UM, BUT SUSTAINABLE BUILDING IS FOCUSED ON SORT OF SOME PRIMARY THINGS, DECARBONIZING BUILDINGS AND AIMING FOR NET ZERO CARBON BUILDINGS BY ALL NEW BUILDINGS TO NET ZERO CARBON BY 2030. 
          UM, THE SECOND GOAL IS REDUCING EMISSIONS FROM REFRIGERANT LEAKAGE, THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE IN AIR CONDITIONERS OR FREEZERS COOLERS, THOSE THINGS ARE CONSTANTLY LEAKING TO THE ATMOSPHERE AND THERE'S STILL THE, WE CAN DO TO REDUCE THAT LEAKAGE. 
          THE THIRD ONE IS AROUND TRYING TO REDUCE THE EMBODIED CARBON PROVEN OR BUILDING MATERIALS AND CONSTRUCTION, UM, BY 2030, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE CONCRETE AND STEEL HAD A MASSIVE UPSTREAM CARBON FOOTPRINT. 
          SO HOW DO WE LIKE DIVE INTO THE DEPTHS OF USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDINGS HAVE A LOWER CARBON FOOTPRINT, AND THEN FINALLY, UM, A GOAL THAT CONNECTS TO AUSTIN WATER TO REDUCE, UM, OVERALL COMMUNITY-WIDE WATER DEMAND, UM, SORT OF IN LINE WITH THE TRAJECTORY OF A WATER FORWARD PLAN. 
          SO INSTEAD OF GETTING TO A COMMUNITY WIDE WATER DEMAND OF 150, 2000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR BY 2030, OKAY. 
          THE NEXT SECTION IS TRANSPORTATION LAND USE. 
          THIS SECTION WAS A CHALLENGE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT VERY FAR IN THE LAND OF IT IN THE CODE TERRITORY. 
          WE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TOO FAR INTO HOUSING TERRITORY. 
          YOU DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TOO FAR INTO LIKE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. 
          SO WE KIND OF ARE SORT OF REITERATING AND SORT OF REINFORCING SOME EXISTING BOLTS HERE. 
          SO THE FIRST GOAL THERE IS AROUND, UM, ENSURING THE 80% OF NEW NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS IN CITY GROWTH CENTERS IN CORDOVA, THAT'S IN LINE WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN. 
          UM, THE SECOND GOAL IS AROUND, UM, ENSURING THESE FOLDERS STRAIGHT OUT OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, ENSURING THAT WE ARE, UM, PROMOTING AND PURSUING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO THE TUNE OF THE GOALS THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT PLAN. 
          UM, AND THEN ONCE YOU BOTH HERE AROUND GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS, LIKE WHEN TRANSPORTATION, THE ABSOLUTE BEST SOLUTION, NO QUESTION, UM, TO REDUCING EMISSIONS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR, IF A TRIP THAT ISN'T TAKEN THE TRIP IT'S ON PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          SO WHEN A CAR THAT HAS GASOLINE POWERED CAN BE NOT USED, UM, THAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION. 
          SO WE REALLY WANT TO PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES AND SORT OF DEPRIORITIZE SINGLE WALKING BMC VEHICLES, WHEREVER WE CAN. 
          UM, THE, FEEL THE GOALS HERE YOU SEE, LIKE MAY LOOK LOW, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY LOOK LOW, BUT THEY LOOK LOW BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE THE UNIT HERE IS PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL DISTANCE TRAVELED FOR ALL TRIPS. 
          UM, SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, THEY DO A LITTLE BIT LIKE, UM, OF CLARIFICATION THERE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE SORT OF UNDERSTAND, UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, ARE YOU SEEING A SLIDE THAT SAYS STRATEGIC 
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MOBILITY PLAN, PROJECT CONNECT? GREAT. 
          UM, SO THE KEY THING HERE IN TERMS OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE SETTING HERE, UM, IT FITS WITHIN THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN GOALS. 
          IT'S KEY TO NOTE THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN IS FOCUSED ON COMING NEW TRIPS AND IT'S FOCUSED ON AT 50 50 MODE SPLIT BY 2040 OF COMMUTE TRIPS. 
          SO OUR PLAN IS FOCUSED ON SORT OF THE BIGGER PICTURE QUESTION OF ALL OF THE TRIPS, NOT JUST COMMUTE TRIPS. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GET, TO REACH HIGHER LEVELS OF MODE SHIFT AND HAVE PEOPLE NOT BE IN SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES, WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE, UM, TRANSIT CAPACITY. 
          SO, UM, IF PROJECT CONNECTING PASS AND IF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS BUILT IN FULFILLED RIDERSHIP ESTIMATES, THOSE WILL SUPPORT THESE TARGETS OF, UM, UH, REACHING THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE SET HERE. 
          UM, THE NEXT TARGET, THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. 
          THIS IS THE DETAILS OF HOW P AND THE TIME AND EQUITY PLAN AND SORT OF THE CURRENT MODE SHIFT COMPARED TO EACH OTHER. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS HERE, BUT BOTTOM LINE IS THAT LIKE, IF YOU, INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT TOTAL TRIP DISTANCE, SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS FOR THE FINAL VERSION OF PLAN. 
          IF YOU SWITCH IT AROUND TO MAKE IT JUST THE NUMBER OF TRIPS, ESSENTIALLY THE GOAL THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING WITH THIS CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN IS THAT BY 20, 30, 50% OF ALL TRIPS IN NUMBER WOULD BE NON SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE, UM, USE FOR THAT TRIP. 
          SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VERY AGGRESSIVE, OKAY, SO NEXT SLIDE, TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION. 
          SO WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. 
          YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO USE CARS FOR EMISSIONS REASONS, FOR AFFORDABILITY REASONS ALL THE TIME, BUT WE REALIZE THAT CARS ARE STILL GOING TO BE ON THE ROAD IN 2030 AND 2040. 
          SO THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE HERE ARE AROUND, UM, TRYING TO GET TO 40% OF TOTAL VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED IN THE CITY, BE ELECTRIFIED, UM, AND THEN HAVE THE COMPELLING AND EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTED AND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE ACROSS THE CITY TO MAKE THIS A LOW COST, LOW EMISSION, LIKE SIMPLE SOLUTION FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE COORDINATE REGIONALLY, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE LONGEST COMMUTE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING IN FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM ROUND ROCK ARE COMING IN FROM KYLE. 
          LIKE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE CONNECTED WITH PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN THE SHORT TERM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, YOU'RE STILL RELYING ON CARS. 
          UM, SO TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES TO SUPPORT ELECTRIFICATION ACROSS THESE REALLY IS KEY. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST TO LAST YEAR, SYNTHETIC CONSUMPTION, THE IDEA HERE IS TO LOOK BEYOND JUST END OF LIFE. 
          SO WE ARE FOCUSED HERE ON A GOAL RELATED TO FOOD PRO CLIMATE PROHEALTH FOOD, AND WE DO SEE FOOD INSECURITY. 
          SECOND GOAL IS AROUND REDUCING EMISSIONS FROM INSTITUTIONAL PURCHASING ACTORS. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, UT THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          WE BUY THEM OF AUSTIN. 
          WE BUY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THINGS AND KIND OF HAVE IT UPS AND OUTSIDE OF THE INTACT, IF WE MAKE BETTER CHOICES IN PURCHASING. 
          AND THEN THE FINAL VIDEO, THE LAST GOAL HERE IS AROUND SUPPORTING THE NEW RESOURCE RECOVERY, A WASTE OF VIRGIN TARGET. 
          THERE WILL BE SET IN THE NEXT YEAR AND REALLY TURNED TO FOCUS ON CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND REUSE, AND LIKE WEST JUST SORT OF THROW AWAY CULTURE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, BRAND NEW SECTION SORT OF LIKE THE MOST EXCITING SECTION IS NATURAL SYSTEMS. AND THIS IS THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS REALLY FOCUSED ON MISSION. 
          ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE REDUCE THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS? WELL, OUR NATURAL OUT THERE, THE SOIL, THE TREES, THE LANDSCAPING, THE PARKS, THE OPEN SPACE SEQUESTERS IN HOME, A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CARTA. 
          SO THESE GOALS ARE SITUATED AROUND PROTECTING CARBON POOLS AND ADDITIONAL LANDS FOR CARBON POOLS, UH, PROTECTING FARMLAND AND PROMOTING ORGANIC DEGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE TO, TO PULL MORE CARBON INTO THE SOIL IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS, UM, ACHIEVING 50% CITY-WIDE TREE CANDY COVER AND TRYING TO DO THAT, UM, IN AN EQUITABLE WAY. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE MANAGING CITY OWNED LANDS IN A WAY THAT WE ARE MAXIMIZING CARBON SEQUESTRATION. 
          SO IF WE IMPLEMENT ALL OF THESE THINGS, LIKE WE ARE NOT GOING TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE EMISSIONS, UM, BUT WE WILL, WE COULD MAKE A DENT UP TO, UM, UP TO 700,000 VECTOR, TONS OF EMISSIONS BY 2030, IF WE CAN ACHIEVE THESE THINGS. 
          SO IT'S AN ESSENTIAL, UM, SO THEY'RE NOT THE LAST LINE. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UM, THIS IS EXCITING STUFF. 
          IT'S COMPLICATED. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE. 
          I REALIZED I WENT FAST. 
          UM, BUT I'M AVAILABLE TO HEAR YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY IMPRESSIVE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BOMBER. 
          UM, SO NOW WE'LL, UH, PROCEED TO A Q AND A, AND AS USUAL, WE HAVE EIGHT SLOTS AT 
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FIVE MINUTES EACH. 
          SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY? ANYBODY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, SO, OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER AZHAR I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          UM, I SAW, AND THIS WAS PART OF, UM, I THINK THE COMMISSION WILL SEE AS WELL. 
          THERE WAS SOME DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE GOALS SET IN THE GIGI CAUSING BLUEPRINT AND THE GOALS THAT ARE IN THE EQUITY OR CERTAIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN. 
          AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHY THOSE DEFENSES WENT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK YOUR MENTORING, UH, GOAL TO ON TRANSPORTATION LAND USE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S THE THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MORE CLEAR IN THE FINAL VERSION, IS IT RIGHT HERE? YOU KNOW, IT SAYS PERCENT OF NEW HOUSING, 10,000 DEEPLY AFFORDABLE AND PRODUCING 10,000 DEEPLY AFFORDABLE. 
          THAT IS LIKE TWO OF THE, OF THE SUB GOALS OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL TARGET OF 135,000 UNITS. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL WE WERE TRYING TO LIKE, MAKE THIS SIMPLE AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY END UP DOING IS ADDING BACK SOME OF THE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST EXACT NUMBERS FROM THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT AND MAKING IT MORE LIKE MORE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE, UM, THE EXACT SORT OF LIKE ALIGNMENT SUPPORT THAT SORRY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. 
          WELL WITH THAT, UH, AS, UM, WAS SENT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, WE HAD, UH, SOME ACTIONS, MOST, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED. 
          AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING PROCESS FOR MOVING THROUGH THOSE AND ALSO ENTERTAINING, UH, ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, UM, FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS. 
          SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL, THE DRAFT OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE SPREADSHEET THAT WITH ROUTED TO THE COMMISSION. 
          SO THAT WOULD GET US THROUGH THOSE. 
          AND WE'LL PUT THOSE UP ON THE SCREEN, UH, HERE SHORTLY. 
          UM, SO THAT'LL BE A STARTING POINT. 
          IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL THOSE OFF, THEY COULD ASK TO VIDE THE QUESTION AND PULL THAT AMENDMENT, UH, OFF THAT SPREADSHEET LIST AND WE WILL VOTE ON IT SEPARATELY. 
          SO DO YOU UNDER, DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND? OKAY. 
          I GOT A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, ROB? OKAY. 
          I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE. 
          I SEE. 
          SO LET'S SEE, DOES ANYBODY, SO LET ME FINISH THE PROCESS. 
          SO ONCE WE MOVE THROUGH THE SPREADSHEET AND WE'VE PULLED OFF ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO DELIVER A DEBATE SEPARATELY, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO ROUND ROBIN FOR ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS WANT. 
          AND WE'LL JUST GO AROUND ONE PER COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU'VE PROPOSED AMENDMENT, WE'LL VOTE ON IT AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT COMMISSIONER. 
          AND WE'LL, UH, DO THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE ONCE I'LL DO IT, BUT IF YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND A SECOND TIME, IF FOLKS HAVE MORE THAN ONE, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          UH, BUT MY, AND WHEN WE DEBATE THE AMENDMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT UNDER OUR RULES FOR AMENDMENT DEBATE, WHICH IS LV, PUT A MOTION SECONDED. 
          AND THEN WE ALLOW TWO MINUTES FOR THE MOTION MAKER AND THEN ONE MINUTE FOR THE SUBSEQUENT SPEAKERS FOR AND AGAINST. 
          AND SO WE HAVE THREE TOTAL FOR THREE TOTAL SPOTS FOR THREE AGAINST. 
          SO THAT'S IN LINE WITH OUR RULES WITH REGARDS TO AMENDMENTS. 
          SO KIND OF BACKING UP TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN, TO START THIS I'D LIKE TO, UH, THE BASE MOTION IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, AND THEN WITH THE CHANGES SHOWN IN THIS SPREADSHEET. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO PULL UP, IF STAFF CAN PULL UP THAT SPREADSHEET WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE PUT FORWARD 
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BY COMMISSIONERS IS OUR SEAVER, SCHNEIDER AND SHAW, UH, IN THE EVENT. 
          AND WE MIGHT NEED TO BLOW THIS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT IF WE CAN, OH, I GUESS WE ALL CAN. 
          I'M LOOKING OVER HERE TO THE LEFT. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT. 
          UH, SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, LOOKING THROUGH HERE AND I GUESS IT MIGHT GET SOME FOLKS TIME. 
          WE DID SEND THIS OUT. 
          SO FOLKS COULD TAKE A LITTLE LOOK AT IT AHEAD OF TIME, BUT, UM, YES, ONE FAVOR. 
          I'M GETTING FEEDBACK HERE. 
          UM, I'D, I'D LIKE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'D SUGGEST ONE CHANGE. 
          AND THAT IS, UM, IF WE COULD GO THROUGH THIS WHERE EACH PERSON WHO HAS PUT FORWARD, THESE PROPOSED CHANGES CAN WALK US THROUGH QUICKLY EACH ONE OF THEIR CHANGES THAT WOULD HELP ME OUT A LOT INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO INCORPORATE THOSE INTO A BASE MOTIONS. 
          LIKE AFTER WE HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, THEN IF ANY OF US WANT TO PULL ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT THEN THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT AS A PART OF THE BASE MOTION CARE. 
          YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          I HEAR WE NEED A YES. 
          SO I AM GOING TO, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, ALLOW FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE PUT FORTH THESE MOTIONS TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND MOVE THROUGH AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. 
          SO COMMISSIONER AZHAR, CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR, UM, MOTIONS THAT YOU'VE HAVE ON THE SPREADSHEET? THANK YOU, CHAD. 
          I'LL TRY TO GO TO DEMO FAST. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE AND THE SECOND ONE, I ESSENTIALLY COUPLED IN THAT THEY REALLY DO A GOAL IN THE PLAN, WHICH PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS 70% OF THE HOUSING IS IN CITIES, GROWTH CENTERS IN CORNER SITE ESSENTIALLY JUST STARTED TO BETTER ALIGN INTO THE STRATEGIC HOUSING GROUP. 
          AND BY GETTING 70 TO 75%, I ADD IN THE HALF MILE OFFICES, GROWTH CENTERS AND GORGEOUS, I ADDED IN AND WITHIN HIGH OPPORTUNITY YEARS, BECAUSE THIS IS PARTIALLY COMING FROM THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT PARTIALLY COMING FROM COUNCIL'S DIRECTION. 
          BUT THE LDC, I THINK THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS HERE JUST ADDING THAT IN. 
          AND THEN SIMILARLY IT'S IT MENTIONED A THOUSAND UNITS BELOW 20% MFI, WHICH WAS WELL SHORT OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY MR. , WHICH IS 20,000 UNITS. 
          SO THERE'S, THESE TWO ARE ESSENTIALLY ALIGNING INTO STRATEGIC HOUSING GROUPING. 
          I'VE PRETTY MUCH TAKEN A LOT OF LANGUAGE FROM THERE. 
          UM, THE SECOND ONE FOR ME, THEY DO WAS ADDING A NEW STRATEGY UNDER THE SCHOOL, UM, AND THAT SHE HAD BIG LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THIS FUJI COUSIN GROUP. 
          AND SO THIS IS OUR BEETHAM, WHICH IS AT LEAST 30% OF NEW HOUSING SHOULD BE A RANGE OF HOUSING DIVES FROM SMALL, LOTS OF NOVEMBER, THE EIGHTH FLEXES TO HELP ADDRESS AUSTIN'S NEED FOR MOTHERS GENERATIONAL HOUSING. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY THIS COMES DIRECTLY FROM THESE 2000 GROUP. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, MY AIM WAS TO ALIGN IT BETTER WITH THAT EXISTING PLAN. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO SKIP QUICKLY DO IS SORE. 
          UM, AND THAT IS STARTING TO WORK ON, THIS IS ONE OF DENSITIES AND ALL WHO DRIVES AUTHORITY. 
          SIX OF THIS LANGUAGE IS VERBATIM FROM, UM, THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. 
          AND I'M ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO MOVE THAT LANGUAGE, ALIGN IT BETTER WITH THAT, WHICH TAKES ME TO E TREE, WHICH IS A NEW STRATEGY, UM, THAT I'M SUGGESTING. 
          SO THIS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THIS AND THOSE DO BLINDS, BUT BOOKS BLAST MENTIONED IT. 
          AND HAS SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN TALKED ABOUT, YOU WENT THROUGH THE LDC CONVERSATIONS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD DEVISE OUR CURRENT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY AND DESIGNATE NEW TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION PRESERVATION. 
          WE DRIVES IT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO MY HOPE FOR THIS WOULD BE THAT WE CAN SERVE LOCAL TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT IS A LOT OF THEM, BUT ALSO REVISE THOSE, UM, EXISTING ORDINANCES. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES UP TO ME OR SOME THAT THEIR DENSITY BONUSES, AND THOSE NEED TO BE RECALCULATED TO ALLOW FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO THAT'S ON THE FRONT FIVE. 
          IF SOMEBODY HAS QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, NEXT TO COMMISSIONER, LET'S SAY I HAVE THAT SCHNEIDER. 
          DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT? THANKS CHAIR. 
          UH, I JUST HAVE ONE AMENDMENT. 
          UH, SO THE SORTS OF ISSUES THAT ARE RAISED IN, UH, IN, IN OUR PLAN HAVE BEEN THOUGHT ABOUT IN OTHER, UH, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AS WELL. 
          AND THERE'S AN ISSUE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY LOW INCOME PEOPLE, UH, AS, UH, UTILITIES IN PARTICULAR ARE SHIFTED FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC AND, 
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UH, NEW HOUSING IS ELECTRIC AND, UH, MORE AFFLUENT PEOPLE SWITCH FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC AND LOWER INCOME PEOPLE ARE, UM, STILL ON GAS UTILITIES. 
          THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN STUDIED BY, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL DEFENSE FUND, WHICH ARE LINKED TO THERE BY THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE. 
          AND THE ISSUE IS THAT, UM, AS LOWER INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ON THE GAS UTILITY, UM, UH, HAVE THERE'S A SMALLER BASE BY WHICH THE GAS UTILITY CAN THEN CHARGE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REMAINS. 
          SO RATES FOR LOWER INCOME PEOPLE FOR GAS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A KEY COMPONENT TO A LIVABLE, UM, UM, UH, GO UP AND UP. 
          AND, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, GIVEN WHAT, UM, UH, THE STUDIES HAVE POINTED TO THAT WE AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY FINDING A SOLUTION HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE PLAN AS PART OF THE EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ON THE, SO JUST A LITTLE BREAK HERE, I'VE BEEN ALERTED THAT THIS IS A DEVIATION FROM OUR NORMAL PROCESS TO ALLOW THIS UPFRONT DISCUSSION. 
          SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ALLOW, WHICH YOU'VE ALREADY ALLOWED TO FOLKS, BUT ALLOW FIVE MINUTES PER COMMISSIONER THAT PROPOSED THESE ITEMS AND ON FUTURE PROPOSED ITEMS, NOT ON THIS SPREADSHEET TO GIVE A COMMISSIONER'S FIVE MINUTES TO EXPLAIN THEIR MOTION, UH, IN MORE DETAIL, IF NEEDED. 
          UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY. 
          IF YOU GOT THEM ALL RIGHT, WE GOT VERY, UH, I'M LOOKING AT, OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT UNANIMOUS ON THAT ONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S UH, SO I'LL LET, UM, LET'S SEE. 
          WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SEEGER. 
          DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR PROPOSED AMENDMENTS? YES. 
          MINE WERE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          THE ONE THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MOST TO EMPHASIS ON IS THE, DID WE SEE I'M SORRY. 
          DID WE SEE THE, UH, YEAH, THAT WE TOOK HIM DOWN THERE? COME BACK UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THE, UH, GO DOWN? WELL, I'LL START FROM THE TOP. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS BASICALLY, I'M TRYING TO PHASE OUT FREE PARKING FROM EMPLOYERS. 
          I JUST ADDED BUS PASSES THAT HAS BEEN IN OTHER LITERATURE AS A, UH, AN INCENTIVE FOR COMPANIES TO DO AWAY WITH THE PARKING AND GIVE BUS PASSES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES WHERE POSSIBLE THE SECOND ONE WAS JUST TO ADD AISD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE, SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE, DON'T REALLY MAKE SOME OF THE, UH, INCOME LEVELS, BUT STILL THEY'RE STRUGGLING. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE TIES TO THE CITY OR AIS STATE TO GIVE THEM A BREAK ON HOUSING SO THAT THEY CAN BE PART OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DISCUSSION. 
          AND, UM, MY THIRD BULLET POINT IS WE TALKED ABOUT KEEPING THE STREETS PASSABLE, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH EMPHASIS ON KEEPING SIDEWALKS PASSABLE. 
          AND I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN WHERE VEGETATION AND BROKEN SIDEWALKS ARE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND NO ONE SEEMS TO BE TAKING CARE OF THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SIDEWALKS ARE OPENED, THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK AND DON'T GROW UP IN PASSABLE ROADBLOCKS. 
          AND THAT WAS JUST TO PUT IN, BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT SIDEWALKS BECAUSE WE DON'T, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST SIDE. 
          AND THEN THE LAST TWO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY HAVE A LOT OF WANT TO PUT A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON. 
          AND A BAG IS TO INSERT LATER TO AN ADAPTED IN THE AUSTIN AREA FOR OUR CANOPY. 
          THE REASON THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO PUT NATIVE OR ADAPTED TREES AS THEY BE REQUIREMENTS, WHETHER IT BE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT OR PARKS, ET CETERA, IS THAT NATIVE AND ADAPTED TREES. 
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THEY CAN BE DROUGHT TOLERANT ONCE ESTABLISHED. 
          THEY DON'T NEED SUPPLEMENTAL WATER OR BRUTALIZATION. 
          THEY'RE RESISTANT TO GIVE SEIZES AND PES, AND THEY PROVIDE HABITAT AND FOOD FOR WILDLIFE. 
          AND THIS CAME DIRECTLY OUT A CITY OF BOSTON'S GROGGY GREEN GUIDE, UM, LANDSCAPING PLANT BOOK, AND PUT SECOND COMMENT ON NATIVE AND ADAPTED TREES OR VEGETATION IS ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          AND THAT'S SIMPLY IS TO PUT, MAKE THE REQUIREMENT TO BE NATIVE AND ADAPT OR ADAPT THE TREE SPECIES FOR ALL NEW TREES. 
          AND THAT'S IT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SAGER. 
          AND I'LL RUN THROUGH MINE QUICKLY HERE. 
          THESE ARE MORE HIGH LEVEL. 
          I DO REFER TO CERTAIN CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS, BUT, UH, TSM DASH ONE IS RECOGNIZED NEED FOR NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCREASE HOUSING ALONG TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND LEVERAGE GREATER LEVELS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UH, I THINK THERE IS NOT A REAL MENTION OF THE LAND CODE. 
          AND I THINK, UH, THAT IS IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A PRIORITY ACTION AND NEEDS TO KIND OF TRICKLE DOWN INTO THIS, UH, PLAN AS WELL. 
          AND IT HAS ALL KINDS OF, UM, EQUITY. 
          YOU KNOW, IT IS DEFINITELY RELATED TO EQUITY, UH, TSA DASH TWO, UH, THIS ONE ADD CONSIDERATION FOR TIMING OF OFFSET PURCHASES SO THAT A MAJORITY OF THEM CAN CREATE A CLEAR LOCAL EQUITY BENEFITS. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, PURCHASES SHOULD NOT BE BOUND BY STRICT ANNUAL TIME TABLES, BUT BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF OFFSETS THAT HAVE CLEAR EQUITY BENEFITS, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY THERE IS DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO RUSH OUT AND GRAB SOME OFFSETS AT ANY TIME OF YEAR. 
          WE SHOULD LOOK AT THOSE THAT REALLY BENEFIT LOCAL COMMUNITY AND HAVE A DEFINITELY HELP WITH THE EQUITY ISSUE WHEN THOSE OFFSETS BECOME AVAILABLE OR MATURE. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE THE GUIDE FOR WHEN WE MAKE THOSE PURCHASES TO OFFSET OUR GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. 
          UH, NEXT ONE IS, UH, RECOMMEND STUDYING, UH, THAT WE STUDIED SUSTAINABLE BUILDING METHODS THAT PROVIDE THE MOST REDUCTION OF ENERGY USE AT THE LEAST COST IN ORDER TO ADDRESS AUSTIN'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS AND CLIMATE CRISIS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          UH, ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT KIND OF MOVING TOWARD MORE SUSTAINABLE BUILDING METHODS MAY NOT ALWAYS YIELD A LOW, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THE AFFORDABILITY HERE IN TOWN. 
          SO I THINK A STUDY TO KIND OF CLEARLY POINT, UH, FOLKS TO THE RIGHT MATERIALS. 
          THAT'LL GET A BENEFIT, BOTH, UH, SOLVE BOTH THESE PROBLEMS IS IMPORTANT. 
          LASTLY, UH, SAME THING AS UP ABOVE, IT'S JUST A REPEAT, RECOGNIZE THAT A NEW LAND CODE IS CRITICAL TO MEET THE GOALS IN THAT PARTICULAR CHAPTER. 
          UH, SO THAT'S ALL OF MINE. 
          SO WITH THAT COMMISSIONERS, HAVING GONE THROUGH AND HEARD A DESCRIPTION OF THESE, UH, I THINK IT WAS WORTHWHILE. 
          DO WE WANT IT TO PULL ANY OF THESE AND PLEASE REFERENCE THEM BY, UH, IF YOU CAN BUY THE AMENDMENT TRACKING NUMBER? UH, WHICH OF COURSE NOW WE BACKUP IS NEEDED. 
          DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL THOSE FOR SEPARATE VOTING? UH, IS THAT NECESSARY? OKAY, I SEE. 
          YES. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO MAKE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS TO SOME, IF WE THINK THAT THEY WON'T BE CONTROVERSIAL? YEAH. 
          WELL, WHAT I WOULD DO COMMISSIONER THOMPSON IS LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL THEM AND JUST EXPEDITE THIS. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS FOR. 
          LET'S LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL IT. 
          IT WON'T TAKE MUCH TIME. 
          I THINK THAT I'D RATHER JUST PULL IT OFF AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE TIME FOR DISCUSSING SOME OF THESE SEPARATELY. 
          SO WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD A FRIENDLY TO? UM, I CAN'T LOOK AT BOTH THINGS AT THE SAME TIME WHERE SHE'S ADDING AISD. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE POINT OUT THAT AISD IS ONLY ACTUALLY 54% OF THE AUSTIN OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS IN AISD AND THERE ARE ABOUT HALF A DOZEN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND PULL THAT ONCE, UH, COMMISSIONER YANEZ, TOLEDO, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO PULL? THANK YOU, AA DASH ONE DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AA. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'LL PULL THAT ONE. 
          ANY OTHERS? 
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UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES? UH, I CAN'T SEE THAT, BUT IT'S ANOTHER FRIENDLY OF, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEKERS. 
          UM, THE BUS PASSES, IF WE COULD JUST CHANGE IT TO TRANSIT PASSES, TO INCLUDE ALL TRANSIT. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL JUST PULL, UH, SORRY. 
          THAT'S SO SIMPLE, BUT LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT OUT TO THE FPS ONE. 
          SO, ALRIGHT. 
          ANY OTHERS? OKAY. 
          SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, TODAY'S MOTION, WHICH IS TO RECOMMEND A, UH, CLIMATE, UH, EQUITY PLAN AND THEN TO, UM, INCLUDE THESE CHANGES THAT WERE NOT PULLED. 
          AND WE WILL GO, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER ON THIS. 
          YOU YOU'RE, YOU'RE MADE A, DO YOU WANT TO JUST MAKE A MOTION? YOU NEED A MOTION? UH, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA, AND ANDREW CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET ALL THE OTHER AMENDMENTS VOTED IN AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ONCE ON THE ENTIRE PACKAGE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HAD PLANNED. 
          SO THAT'S THE STARTING BASE. 
          SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START. 
          YES. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          CAN YOU ALSO ADD A DASH ONE AS WELL? OKAY. 
          THAT'S ONE EIGHT. 
          IT'LL BE, IT'LL PRETTY MUCH BE FOR BOTH OF THEM. 
          SO MY SUGGESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO LAST CHANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S A, THE LIST. 
          AND SO PER KIND OF MY, UH, INSTRUCTIONS, WE'LL GO AND START WITH, UM, SEPARATE, UM, WELL, FIRST START, I KNOW THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A REPEAT, BUT WE'LL START WITH THE MOTION MAKER ON, UH, LET'S GO AND TAKE OUT A ONE, A AND ONE B FOR AN, UH, COMMISSIONER CZAR, IF YOU JUST WANT TO, AS THE MOTION MAKER, DISCUSS THAT ONE. 
          UH, IF YOU NEED TO AGAIN, SURE. 
          IF WE COULD HAVE THAT BOLD UP, IT WOULD BE NICE. 
          I MEAN, I CAN LOOK AT MY OWN SHEEP UNTIL A LITTLE BIT. 
          NO, NO, DONALD STAFFS, IF YOU COULD PULL UP THAT SPREADSHEET AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE ON THE FIRST PAGE I'M GETTING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY AGAIN, THIS IS ALIGNMENT WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING GROUP, AND SO I CHANGED. 
          UM, SO WHAT HAS BEEN CUT OUT OVER HERE? WHAT IS A STRIKE TWO IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY FUND. 
          SO FROM 72, I SAID 75% OF NEW HOUSING. 
          I ADDED THE HALF MILE WITHIN THE CITY'S GROWTH CENTERS AND CORRIDORS I ADDED IN AND WITHIN HIGH OPPORTUNITY IS, UM, I, THE PRESERVATIVE 10,000 STAYS BECAUSE THAT IS A GOAL THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT AND THEN CREATING WHAT WAS EXISTED. 
          THERE WAS CONSTRUCTING 1000 DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. 
          WHEREAS THE STREET HOUSING BLUEPRINT ACTUALLY HAS A GOAL OF 20,000 UNITS BELOW 30% MFI. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF FOLKS REMEMBER, THIS IS A LITTLE CIRCLES OF VISITOR, THESE BACK AT SEVEN STEPS WITHIN THIS STRATEGIC CAUSE BLUEPRINT. 
          AND THERE IS NUMBER OF UNITS ALLOCATED TO EACH. 
          UM, SO IT'S ACTUALLY THIS WASN'T IN ALIGNMENT WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ALIGNMENT PERFECTLY WENT THROUGH, I ALSO MADE SURE THAT THE STRATEGY AND WHO NEEDED THIS GOAL WAS, UH, UH, CHANGED AS WELL. 
          SO THERE WAS A QUESTION OF, OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS, UH, WITHIN THE GROWTH CENTERS IN QUARTERS. 
          I JUST CHANGED IT TO WITHIN PROXIMITY. 
          SO YOU'LL STILL SEE MY INTERN JUSTIFICATION. 
          SO THERE'S TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT IT. 
          ONE IS THE HALF MILE WITHIN THE CITY SCHOOL AND CENTERS IN CORRIDORS. 
          AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER TARGET WITHIN MR. , WHICH IS A QUARTER MILE OF HIGH-FREQUENCY TRANSIT, BUT 25% AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO YOU WANT THAT CONFUSION OF WHY WE DON'T WANT 25%, A HUNDRED PERCENT AUTOMOBILE ISIS BOX TO ME AND WHAT CENTERS AND CORRIDORS AND HOW TO DIAZ. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, I, THERE WAS A 20% THERE WHICH DID NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT IS INDUSTRY CAUSING BLUEPRINT. 
          SO THE STUDENT HOUSING BLUEPRINT SAID 30% AND BELOW AS ONE BUCKET REQUIRING 20,000 MINUTES WITHIN THAT. 
          SO AGAIN, WHAT WAS, HE WAS 1000 DEEPLY FOR MINUTES, BUT EVENTUALLY, MAYBE A GRADE BELOW. 
          AND I CHANGED IT TO 20,000 UNITS AT 30% MFI ENVELOPE. 
          THANK YOU TIME IF AMENDMENTS ONE OF THE PROPOSED, UH, TO THESE AMENDMENTS, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          SO DOES ANYONE PROPOSE CHANGES AMENDMENTS TO THESE ITEMS? OKAY, SO I AM VERY MUCH OPEN 
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TO A COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT OF AMENDING THIS IN THE WAY THAT I'M TO ADDRESS BASICALLY MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF COMMISSIONERS AS COMMISSIONER OF STARS, UH, INCORPORATION OF THESE VARIOUS PLANS AND TRYING TO ALIGN THE NUMBERS AND ALSO DO FOR A VERY MEANINGFUL GOAL. 
          UM, AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A GOAL SPECIFICALLY, AS OPPOSED TO AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          AND SO THE LANGUAGE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE, UM, BASICALLY INVOLVES SOME KIND OF A SETTING OF AN EQUITY ANALYSIS AT SOME KIND OF, UM, INCLUDING, UM, WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT IS HERE, BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS THAT JUST FROM THE, THE CONVERSATION WE ACTION TEAM, THE CONVERSATION, THE CONCERNS THAT COMMUNITY HAVE BROUGHT TO THE EQUITY OFFICE REGARDING THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT SPECIFICALLY, UM, I THINK WARRANTS SOME KIND OF QUALIFICATION HERE, UM, JUST BECAUSE OUR GOALS CAN SOMETIMES BE CONTRADICTORY AND IMPLEMENTATION, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CONCENTRATE HIGHER, UH, HIGHER NUMBERS OF UNITS WITHIN A HALF MILE, WHICH IS NOT PROPOSED IN THE CLIMATE PLAN HERE, BUT THEN PROPOSED IN THIS AMENDMENT. 
          UM, WE ALSO FIND A LOT OF THE UNITS THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND LOW INCOME HOUSING, LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES ON THESE SAME MARGINS AND ALL OF THESE CORRIDORS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE IMPLEMENT THEM IF WE ACTUALLY WANT TO, UH, KEEP THAT PRESERVATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLACES WHERE WE HAVE OR IN THE LANGUAGE OF CREATED OR PRESERVED. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT IN KIND OF ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS THAT WE DO OR WE'RE INVESTING FUNDS, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE MORE UNITS THAN WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOST TIMES, I GUESS I NEED AN, I NEED A DIRECTOR AMENDMENT. 
          I CAN'T, I MEAN, THIS IS A LOT TO, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME. 
          SO HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO CHANGE? WE NEED TO VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT TO THIS. 
          YES, I'M SORRY. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S LATE AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE MY BRAIN IS HAVING A LITTLE HARD TIME WITH THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE. 
          BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE LANGUAGE THAT PROVIDES EITHER VETTING BY THE EQUITY OFFICE ON SOME OF THIS IMPLEMENTATION OR SOME LANGUAGE THAT INCORPORATES MMM. 
          COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT I DON'T SEE REFLECTED RIGHT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE WOULD BE VOTING ON IS KIND OF AN OVERARCHING, UH, AMENDMENT THAT IS REQUESTING, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN, UH, ANTI-DISPLACEMENT OR EQUITY BENCHMARK, AND COMMISSIONER SR. 
          I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTED INCORPORATION. 
          IF YOU HEAR WHERE I'M COMING FROM, AND THERE IS WORDING THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST OR OFFER, I'M TOTALLY OPEN TO THAT. 
          OTHERWISE I WILL, UH, RETRACT MY AMENDMENT SINCE I CAN'T QUITE WORD IT. 
          I GUESS THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS I FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS GOOD AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT IT SHOULD BE PART, THIS MEANT ALIGNING GOALS AND MAKING SURE THE LANGUAGE ALIGNS SINCE THAT WOULD BE SO INTO RENEWAL TO YOU. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY PERFECT AMENDMENT. 
          AND I THINK THAT SOUNDS FAVORABLE TO ME. 
          I JUST WANT HIM AS A PART OF THIS ONE, JUST BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO ALIGN WITH, LET ME, LET ME, I WOULD OFFER THAT WE, WHEN WE COME TO A NEW AMENDMENTS THAT YOU OFFER THAT UP AS A SEPARATE AMENDMENT, A COMMISSIONING ON ITS PALITO, DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE? IT DOES. 
          AND REALLY IT'S THE HALF MILE ELEMENT THAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH HEAVILY ON THIS AND THE SPECIFIC ALIGNMENT TO THE, TO THE ASAP, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE MORE TIME TO IT, SO I WILL WORK ON CHARACTER, CAN SEPARATE AMENDMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT MOVES US TO A P S DASH ONE. 
          AND IF WE CAN SEE THE SPREADSHEET AGAIN AND, UH, LET'S SEE, THAT IS ON PAGE CAUSE IT'S ON PAGE TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          REALLY GOOD COMMENTS. 
          INSTEAD OF BUS PASSES, I WOULD SUGGEST TRANSIT PASSES AND THE OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ONE. 
          SO, UH, DO WE NEED ANY, NO, YEAH. 
          LET ME BACK UP THE TRAIN. 
          UH, I AM 
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BEING REMINDED THAT TODD JUST PLOWED AHEAD. 
          WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON, UH  AND A ONE B. 
          SO COULD I, UM, THE MOTION MAKER, UH, WAS OF BIZARRE. 
          SO CUTTING US TOGETHER. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THOSE TWO? OKAY. 
          I SEE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECONDING. 
          CAN WE VOTE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS? SAY ONE DAY AND HEY, AVON D. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND I'M GOING TO GET SOME HELP HERE FROM A VICE CHAIR. 
          WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 11. 
          SAY IT AGAIN. 
          11, 11, TWO, AND COMMISSIONING ON HIS POLITO. 
          ARE YOU, UH, THOSE? OKAY, SO THAT'S 11 FOR NOW, THOSE AGAINST OR ABSTAINING. 
          UH, JUST NEED TO SEE YOUR CONDITIONING, HONEST POLITO. 
          WHAT'S YOUR VOTE ON? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I GOT DISCONNECTED. 
          SO WE'VE GOT 12 ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SECRET, PLEASE. 
          PROCEED. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          AND, UH, ARE YOU GOING TO LUMP ALL OF MINE TOGETHER AND TAKE ONE BOAT? UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE BOTH THROUGH BOTH OF THEM AND ADDRESS. 
          I THINK THEY WERE BOTH FRIENDLIES. 
          AND SO IF YOU CAN RESTATE THE FRIENDLIES, UM, WE CAN TRY THAT. 
          YES. 
          UM, ON, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S P S ONE, I GUESS. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE WAS TO ADD INSTEAD OF BUS PASSES, TRANSIT PASSES THE EXISTING LANGUAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          HE HAS TO, INSTEAD OF AISD TO PULL IT IN AND LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEES. 
          UH, I THINK THAT, THAT WAS IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THOSE? NO, I HEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          I HAD ONE MORE CHANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU PROPOSE ON  PHASE OUT FREE PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO WHERE WOULD THAT HE GO HELP ME OUT JUST WITH THE OTHER CONTRACT FOR PHASE OUT FREE PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          NOW AT THIS BASING OUT TOTALLY PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          IT'S A BIG CHEW. 
          IT'S A BIG ASK BECAUSE THERE, EVEN AFTER COKE NEXT, THERE STILL WILL BE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO A BLANKET STAKE SAYING THE FACE THEM OUT IS A BIG ASK. 
          HOWEVER, THE WORD PHASE, THE OUT GIVES THE LATITUDE NOT TO JUST TAKE THEM AWAY. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW, TRANSIT PASSES. 
          IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT I'M HAPPY WITH THE REQUEST. 
          OKAY, LET ME JUST GET THIS STRAIGHT. 
          SO THE FIRST SENTENCE WOULD BE PHASED OUT THE PRACTICE OF PROVIDING FREE PARKING SPACES AND PARKING REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENTS TO EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN FACILITIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, IT'S, YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN THE TITLE OF THE STRATEGY FOR, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ALSO CHANGING THE TITLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS JUST TO REMOVE AISD AND ADD LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THE PROPOSED, UH, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THESE TWO ITEMS? ONE MORE THING, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT A HAIR MORE CLEAR, UH, PHASE OUT FREE PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          YES. 
          CAUSE WE CAN'T TAKE THEM WELL, COKE. 
          NEXT IS TAKING AWAY SOME PARKING REQUIREMENTS EXISTING. 
          DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LIMIT IT TO JUST DO DEVELOPMENT? I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. 
          KIND OF LOOKS AT JEFF HERE. 
          UM, I GUESS IT COULD READ, UM, PHASE OUT FREE PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS 
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THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS PIECE ISN'T NECESSARILY DIRECTED TO EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT'S IT? THAT'S IT STANDS ON ITS OWN AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, FREE PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          PERFECT. 
          OH, I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS ADD CHANGE BUS PASSES TO TRANSIT PASSES. 
          I'M HAPPY WITH ANY CHANGE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S UH, CAN YOU, CAN SOMEBODY READ THAT ONE MORE TIME? I WRITE IT DOWN. 
          WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE? LANGUAGES. 
          OKAY. 
          STRATEGY FOR PHASE OUT FREE PARKING AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, PHASE OUT THE PRACTICE OF PROVIDING FREE PARKING SPACES. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW TO WHERE DO WE INSERT PARKING ARMAND? THEY SET OUT WELL AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, I GUESS THAT WILL READ. 
          OKAY. 
          RIDING FREE PARKING SPACES AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          THAT'S WHAT, THAT WOULD BE TWO EMPLOYEES AT CITY OF BOSTON FACILITIES AND OTHER LARGE EMPLOYERS. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ARE WE GOOD THERE? OKAY. 
          DID THERE USED TO BE A PROGRAM THAT DID OFFER BUS PASSES TO LARGE EMPLOYEES, IF THEY WOULD CUT BACK ON THEIR PARKING AND THIS IS JUST RESTATING THAT REALLY, BUT ADDING PARKING COMPARTMENTS ALSO. 
          SO LET'S, UH, LET'S MOVE FORWARD. 
          ARE THERE, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON, UH,  AS AMENDED, UH, WELL, LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS FIRST TO BOTH OF THESE. 
          UH, SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS TO THESE TWO AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE, UH, THE TWO. 
          SO THESE ARE, UH, SO VOTE ON THE PROPOSED FRIENDLIES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT 12 ONE AND THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, THEN VOTE ON THE, UH, WE ONLY HAVE 12, DIDN'T SEE A COMMISSIONER. 
          SO WE HAD, OKAY. 
          SHE WAS OKAY. 
          12 THOUGH. 
          I'M DEALING WITH A MINOR EMERGENCY AND WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO LEAVE THIS MEETING EARLY. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I'M SO DISTRACTED, SO APOLOGIZE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF BAD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO NOW JUST A VOTE. 
          WE VOTED ON THE AMENDMENTS TO THE . 
          NOW WE'LL JUST VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS IN THEIR ENTIRETY. 
          SO I GUESS LET'S HAVE A VOTE. 
          UM, I GUESS A PS ONE PS, TWO AS AMENDED, AND WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY OKAY. 
          IT'S UH, UNANIMOUS ON THAT ONE 12 RIGHT NOW FOR, UM, THAT'S IT. 
          SO THAT'S ALL THE ONES THAT WERE PULLED I BELIEVE. 
          SO, UM, WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START. 
          I DID GET, UH, UH, MR. ANDERSON, YOU SAID YOU HAD A PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. 
          UH, YOU LET ME KNOW THAT AHEAD OF TIME. 
          SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU, SIR. 
          SEE, ALRIGHT, SO LOOKING AT, OH YEAH. 
          GIVE US THE PAGE NUMBER. 
          I'M SORRY THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO A NUT, PULL IT UP. 
          PAGE 18 TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE. 
          I CAN GO AHEAD AND READ IT OUT. 
          SO IT'S ADD GOAL FIVE FOR TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE THAT READS ADOPT A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT PROMOTES COMPACT AND CONNECTED DEVELOPMENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOU PROBABLY MEANT PAGE 18 IF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE JUST SAW, CORRECT? YES. 
          OH YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO LET'S TRY TO FIND IT WITHIN THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IF, UH, MR. BOMBER IS STILL THERE AND CAN DIRECT US TO WHERE MAYBE TO WHERE THAT IS LOCATED IN THE ACTUAL PLAN 18 AND SOME PRESENTATION. 
          I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          [03:40:02]
YEAH. 
          SO CAN WE GET A CROSS? SO THIS IS PAGE 18 OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE SPECIFIC TO WHERE THIS IS LOCATED IN THE PLAN. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR. VAUGHN ARE STILL THERE, BUT YEAH, I'M STILL HERE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE LET'S SEE BACK IF THERE WERE THE, AT THE END OF THAT SECTION IS PAGE 57 OF THE FULL DRAFT OF THE PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WOULD BE ADDING THIS GO ON PAGE 56 AT THE END OF 56. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT AMENDMENT? I HAVE A SECOND, UH, FROM VICE-CHAIR  SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION ON THAT AMENDMENT. 
          WE HAVE A TWO MINUTES, UH, FOR THE, UH, MR. ANDERSON. 
          SURE. 
          I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO IT REAL QUICK. 
          I MEAN, IT'S QUITE LITERALLY RIPPED DIRECTLY FROM OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT OR FEMARA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PASSED IN 2012 UNANIMOUSLY BY COUNCIL. 
          AND IT CALLS FOR THE HEADING OF A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT PROMOTES A COMPACT AND CONNECTED AUSTIN. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, PROMOTING TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, LOWERING OUR CEO TO EMISSIONS BY HOUSING TYPES AND THAT THIS ONE AMENDMENT DOES EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS, TIMES A THOUSAND AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY EVEN HELP WITH MANY OTHER GOALS TOO, AS FAR AS GETTING A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING TYPES AND GETTING MORE DENSITY, BONUSES, AND HELPING WITH THE OFFICER STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. 
          AND SO, UM, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING. 
          THIS AMENDMENT DOESN'T COVER. 
          SO IT'S JUST SHORT AND SWEET AND I WAS KINDA SURPRISED IT WASN'T ALREADY IN THERE. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS SUCH A LOW HANGING FRUIT. 
          AND SO JUST HELPING TO THROW THAT IN THERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, SPEAKING AGAINST ONE, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE AND YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER AND THEN COMMISSIONER PAULO, I GUESS BOTH ONE IS TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTION FOR THE MOTION MAKER. 
          IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A NEW STRATEGY STRATEGY. 
          IS IT GOING TO BE A STRATEGY FOR, WITH NO BULLETS UNDERNEATH THAT? I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THERE, BUT I DID NOT. 
          YOU WERE PROPOSING IT SO IT'S, IT'S LISTED UNDER GOALS. 
          THIS WOULD BE GOAL FIVE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE NECESSARILY IN FRONT OF A LOGICAL ORDER ORDER OF IMPORTANCE. 
          I MEAN, HONESTLY, IT'S TO BE GOAL ONE, BUT, UH, SO YEAH. 
          DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY, GREAT. 
          AND OF COURSE, IF STAFF WANTS TO TAKE A CRACK AT ADDING SOME THINGS AND WHAT THAT MEANS, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THE BULLET POINTS KIND OF COME EASY. 
          I'M SURE HALF OF STAFF WOULD BE WILLING TO CRANK THOSE OUT IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, ANY, ANY COMMISSIONERS AGAINST SEEING NONE, UH, MS. UH, COMMISSIONER CODDLING, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION? UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE TOO MUCH TO ADD EXCEPT THAT THE MOTION VERY MUCH ALIGNED WITH THE CHANGE THAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH, UH, TRYING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO AVOID SPRAWL, VERY INTENTIONALLY AVOID SPRAWL. 
          AND SO THIS KIND OF GETS AT THAT THROUGH DIFFERENT LANGUAGE. 
          SO I LIKE IT. 
          UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT FITS TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT SPRAWLING OR IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT IT BASICALLY GETS AT THE SAME IDEA. 
          I THINK YOU NAILED IT. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BULLET POINT UNDER THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT AS IS IT'S AS FOUND IN THE US AND, UH, IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, UH, TO INCLUDE THAT AS A GOAL HERE. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S ALL OF THE SPEAKERS FOR AND AGAINST. 
          SO CAN I, I GUESS WE NEED TO HAVE A, DID WE HAVE A SECOND ON THIS? ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, IT WAS YES, UH, BY SHARING SAMPLES. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          UM, AND IF YOU COULD HELP ME KEEP COUNTING HERE BY SHARE THAT WOULD HELP. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, 10. 
          I HAVE 11. 
          OH, DID I GET IT RIGHT? I THINK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD. 
          AND, UH, I'M JUST GOING TO GO IN THE ORDER. 
          I SEE YOU ALL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY LET'S JUMP. 
          UH, WELL, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONING ON HIS POLEDO I THINK IS, UH, LEFT FOR AN EMERGENCY OR I WOULD HAVE TAKEN HERS NEXT. 
          SO I'LL JUST GO AND SAY, I SEE YOU GUYS ON THE SCREEN. 
          SO COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE-CHAIR HEMPHILL. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANY AMENDMENTS? NO, I DON'T HAVE IT. 
          [03:45:03]
OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD. 
          UH, YOU HAVE ANY, OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          DID YOU WANT TO EXPOUND ON YOUR, UH, SPRAWL OR ARE YOU GOOD WITH WHERE WE'RE AT? UH, RIGHT NOW? UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IF IT'S FRIENDLY, I MIGHT ADD SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, ACTUALLY AVOIDING SPRAWL. 
          UH, SO, SO WOULD THAT BE INTENT? I THINK, UH, I LIKED WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS HAVE SOME KIND OF BULLET THAT, UH, TO UNDER THE GOAL THAT, UM, CHAIR ANDERSON, UH, THAT WE VOTED ON TO JUST ADD THAT AS A STRATEGY. 
          YEAH, THAT'S FINE. 
          THAT WORKS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT, ADDING THAT STRATEGY UNDER THAT, UH, THE GOAL THEN WAS PASSED. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, FROM VICE-CHAIR HEMPHILL. 
          AND SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, WELL, ANY DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO DO WE NEED ANY DISCUSSION? SHOULD WE JUST VOTE? ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S JUST PUT IT TO A VOTE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT'S 11. 
          OH, SO WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO FURTHER. 
          ALRIGHT, SO JUST GOING, UH, MR. SEEGER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? ALRIGHT, MR. SNYDER, ARE YOU GOOD? DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANY OTHERS? ALRIGHT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, NOTHING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YOU WERE THINKING, OH, NO, THANK YOU. 
          I THOUGHT YOU WERE THINKING, OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SHEA. 
          NO, IT WAS ALL COVERED. 
          I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER FLORES. 
          NOTHING ELSE TO ADD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW I'M BOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          DID YOU BUY INSURANCE COMMISSIONER WAS SUGGESTING, UH, IT WAS LOOKING INTO HAVING AND, WELL, I DIDN'T TAKE A NOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU WANT TO TRY TO SKATE TO HER CONCERN? I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          I DON'T THINK I FULLY CAPTURED IT AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO HER, BUT WHAT I WAS CAPTURING, SOME WHICH SHE WAS SAYING WAS TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT CONCERNING EQUITY, AROUND DENSITY PLANNING FOR THE CITY. 
          I WAS GOING TO ASK ON THAT ITEM KIND OF WHERE THAT WAS GOING. 
          AND I THINK COMMISSIONERS ARE, WOULD KNOW BEST IS JUST HOW MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT WENT INTO JUSTICE, STRATEGIC HOUSING PLAN, BECAUSE I RECALL THAT AND MAKING UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF CIRCLES AND HOUSING STAFF WORKING ON THAT FOR MANY MONTHS AND REACHING OUT TO PRETTY MUCH EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS IN OR NEAR HOUSING IN THE CITY. 
          SO, I MEAN, I KNOW IT NEEDS UPDATES AND BRING IT ABOUT TO GET AN UPDATE AND THEN SOON, BUT WHEN KIND OF COMFORTABLE WITH IT'S ALREADY GONE INTO THAT, I THINK DEFINITELY BLUEPRINT. 
          THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY INPUT IN SPITE OF THE BEN DISEASE. 
          IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO AND LOOK AT THAT, UM, I, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO THINK, LIKE, I, I HONESTLY, I JUST DID NOT CATCH HER WHEN SHE WAS TRYING TO SEE. 
          I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I GUESS THIS IS JUST, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT THEN FOR OUR STAFF. 
          I THINK THAT AS WE GO TO THIS DOCUMENT AND OTHER DOCUMENTS, WE HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT EQUITY GOALS AND COMMUNITY INPUT AS A BICEP CONVERSATION. 
          SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS A PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WRAP THIS UP. 
          I'M GOING TO RE GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME IS WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AUSTIN PRIVATE EQUITY PLAN WITH, UM, AND I'M GONNA JUST READ DOWN THE SPREADSHEET WITH, UH, UH, FROM THE SPREADSHEET BACK UP, UH, ITEMS , UH, . 
          SHE HAS THREE PS4, UH, SHE HAS FIVE TS, ONE TIER TWO, TIER THREE, TIER FOUR, AND AS AMENDED A ONE, A ONE D  AND, UM, AND D AND 
          [03:50:01]
THE AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT WERE PASSED, UM, BY COMMISSIONERS ANDERSON, UH, COMMISSIONERS CAUDALIE. 
          AND AM I MISSING ANYBODY? I THINK THAT IS THAT IT, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO ADDITIONAL ONES WE HAD OKAY. 
          THAT I HAVE LEARNED AND WE'LL CHANGE THAT I'M GOING TO OFFER. 
          AND I JUST THINK IT HELPS CLEAR THINGS UP ON P S ONE, WHERE WE HAD ADDED AND RE REMOVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE THAT OUT AND LET THAT BE ITS OWN STANDALONE, HAPPY TO ALLOW COMMISSIONER SECRET, TO TAKE FULL CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          WE CAN CALL THAT PS SIX, BUT JUST TO STICK IT OUT ALONE AND, AND CALL IT, YOU KNOW, JUST REMOVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          I WOULD HATE FOR THERE TO BE A LOSS OF INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT MEANS WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT EMPLOYEES AND CITY STUFF. 
          AND SO JUST TO TAKE IT OUT, LET IT STAND ON ITS OWN ITS OWN MERITS. 
          AND IT DEFINITELY IS, IS A GREAT THING TO BE IN A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE STANDING ON ITS OWN. 
          SO I AM, YOU'RE KIND OF THROWING ME IN, UH, SO WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND VOTED ON THAT, RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL MOVE TO RECONSIDER THAT ITEM. 
          I'LL TAKE THAT ONE OUT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THOSE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS THAT WE CAN JUST BUILD ON TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GO AHEAD. 
          UM, I GUESS WE NEED A SECOND PEN PROBABLY RECONSIDER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON RECONSIDERATION OF THAT ITEM. 
          YES. 
          WE GOT TO VOTE ON THAT FOR RECONSIDERATION. 
          SHOW ME YOUR CARDS PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          11. 
          OH, SO WE'RE RECONSIDERING. 
          SO GO AHEAD AND LEAD ME THROUGH IT AND WHAT WE'RE DOING ON CF ONE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          ON P S ONE SIMPLY REMOVING, UM, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE GOT TO GO BACK. 
          YOU HAVE TO RECONSIDER PS ONE AND P S TWO BECAUSE WE TOOK THEM TOGETHER. 
          SO I THOUGHT LET'S DO THAT AGAIN. 
          UH, BOTH TO RECONSIDER. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR RECONSIDER PS ONE PS TO HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DESIRE. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD. 
          AND, UH, ALRIGHT. 
          I'M SEEING, OH, THERE WE GO. 
          ALRIGHT, SO 11 OH, TO RECONSIDER. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S START NOW. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          OKAY. 
          TO TAKE OUT FROM  AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN TO ADD A G S SIX SIMPLY SAYS, REMOVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND THEN HAPPY TO PUT UP PS ONE AND TWO AND SIX FOR APPROVAL OR, OR TO BE COMMISSIONER SEEKER SECOND. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          SO WE ARE, I THINK WHAT I'M GATHERING HERE IS WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FROM PS ONE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT A SEPARATE STANDALONE PARKING REQUIREMENT AND WE WILL VOTE. 
          UH, SO I, SO I GUESS, DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? OKAY. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SO LET'S VOTE ON AGAIN. 
          I'LL JUST GO, WE'RE GOING TO CHANCE ONE, BUT REMOVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, MAKE A NEW , UH, FOR REMOVING PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND PS TWO AS DISCUSSED EARLIER AS AMENDED EARLIER. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON NET. 
          WHO WAS THE SECOND? WHO WAS THE SECOND? UH, I THINK IF IT'S COMMISSIONER AZHAR AM I CORRECT? AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO LET'S VOTE. 
          I THINK WE ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE ALMOST THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          1104, WE CLEAN THAT UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WITH THAT CHANGE, UM, I THINK WE MIGHT NEED TO VOTE TO EXTEND THE MEETING. 
          WE'RE FOUR MINUTES AWAY FROM 10, 15 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          HOPEFULLY VOTE. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FOR EXTENSION. 
          UH, I'VE GOT, I'M LOOKING FOR THIS COMMISSIONER. 
          SHAY'S GOOD. 
          ARE 11. 
          OH, ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S UH, SO I WENT THROUGH, SO WITH THE CHANGES, THE BASELINE WITH THE CHANGES IN THE SPREADSHEET, WE'RE GOING TO ADD IN THESE RECENT CHANGES TO P ONE AND P TWO, ADDING PIECE SIX. 
          SO LET'S JUST, UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AND I GOT A MOTION BY SR SECOND BY I'LL JUST CALL IT COMMITTED SCHNEIDER. 
          AND SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE COMMENT, UH, CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN WITH THE AMENDMENTS, UH, VOTED FOR A POLITICAL AND I'VE GOT 11. 
          OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [03:55:01]
WOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ON THAT. 
          THAT WAS JUST PRACTICING UP FOR THE NEXT LAND CODES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON STAFF AND COMMISSIONER CHAIR SHOT. 
          IT WAS GREAT. 
          AND THANKS. 
          AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO THAT, UH, MONUMENTAL. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, MR. BOMBER, THAT WAS REALLY AMAZING WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND JUST WHAT I APPRECIATE. 
          IT HAD SO MANY FOLKS FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND, UH, JUST AMAZING. 
          UM, I REALLY LOVED THE WAY HE PULLED EVERYBODY IN. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND WITH THAT, YOU I'M GOING TO MOVE DOWN THE AGENDA. 
          SO REAL QUICK HERE. 
          UM, THE NEXT ONE, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M ON TRACK. 
          [C1. Discussion and possible action to assign or nominate Planning Commission members for consideration by the Austin City Council to serve on the following:
Codes and Ordinances Joint Committee
Comprehensive Plan Joint Committee
Small Area Planning Joint Committee
Joint Sustainability Committee
South Central Waterfront Advisory Board
Mobility and Transportation Working Group]
WE GOT ITEM C UH, NOMINATIONS RECOMMENDATIONS GIVEN THE HOUR, UH, UNLESS I'M GOING TO ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONERS ARE YES. 
          SO I'M MAKING A MOTION, DO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER ORDINANCES, COMMITTEE CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I SEE ANY SECONDS FOR THAT? OKAY. 
          UM, WELL, I AM ALL FOR THAT. 
          I'M LOOKING AT CHAIR CUP, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY. 
          ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? UM, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOOD. 
          LET'S VOTE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT 11. 
          OH, ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, WE FILLED A SPOT ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THAT ACTION COMMISSIONER. 
          AZHAR THAT MAKES LIFE EASIER. 
          UM, SO, UH, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PUT, PUT UP RECOMMEND HEARING NONE. 
          LET'S MOVE 
          [E. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]
TO, UH, BOARDS, COMMITTEES, WORKING GROUPS, UPDATES, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LET'S SAY BIZARRE. 
          ANYTHING ON CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          WE ARE NOT MET. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER FLORES. 
          UM, I GUESS WE HAVEN'T MET EITHER ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO NO UPDATES THERE. 
          UH, SO LET ME MAKE IT EASY. 
          ANY UPDATES FROM ANY OTHER COMMITTEES THAT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO BE HEARING NONE? UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON, EARN THIS MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT 10 O'CLOCK. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          .
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.