* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] YOU CAN JOIN US IN, IN MOTION. SO THAT'S ME GET MY CHEAT SHEET HERE. [Call to Order] THIS IS A SPECIAL CALL. THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN COMMISSION. WE ARE MEETING REMOTELY. UM, TODAY IS OCTOBER 19TH AND WE WILL START OUT WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP AND THAT IS MOBILY. MOBILEY. ARE YOU THERE? I GUESS MOBILEY IS NOT THERE. SO WITH THAT, WE CAN GO [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS SEPTEMBER 30TH, GIVE EVERYONE A SECOND TO LOOK OVER THEIR MINUTES OR THAT, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS INTERPRETIVE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECONDS. AND WHEN LIKE TO SECONDARY, I GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROBINSON, ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED CARRIES. AND SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THAT. WE CAN GO ON TO OLD BUSINESS. WE HAVE [2a. Discussion and Possible Action following update on $12 Million Creative Space Bond following presentations by Christine Maguire, Redevelopment Division Manager, Economic Development Department, and Shawn Willett, Deputy Procurement Officer, Financial Services] A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE ON $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND FALLING PRESENTATIONS FROM CHRISTINE MAGUIRE, REDEVELOPED DIVISION MANAGER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND SEAN WILL IT DEPUTY PROCUREMENT OFFICER OF FINANCIAL SERVICES. SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME CHRISTINE AND SEAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR. I APPRECIATE THIS. CHRISTINE MCGUIRE REDEVELOPMENT DIVISION MANAGER WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I ALSO REALLY, REALLY HOPE TO HAVE ON THIS CALL. SHAD ROLAND IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN, BUT MATT TO RAY, HE SHOULD HAVE EITHER CALLED IN OR HE SHOULD BE ON THE LINE. THERE YOU ARE. MATTHEW. IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU. I ALSO HAVE TWO SLIDES IF, UH, IS KIM CARSON. UH, THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD JUST GO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, KIM, IF YOU COULD GO TO, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU CONDITIONED MEMBERS. I WANTED TO LET YOU JUST ON A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND PROCESS. AND AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS, I DID A LONGER PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS. WE RECEIVED OVER 20, UH, RESPONSES TO THE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM, UH, THOSE WHO RESPONDED. AND THEY WERE VERY DETAILED, VERY THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES HAS HELPED INFORM THE UPCOMING NEXT STEPS OF THE PROCESS. AND JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE DOING, I WOULD SAY A THREE STEP PROCESS, BUT REALLY A TWO STEP THAT THAT HELPS DELIVER ON THE CREATIVE SPACE BONDS. WE ALL KNOW THAT $12 MILLION IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT, UM, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT I HOPE REALLY GETS THE BEST OUTCOME OF WEDDING, AN OPERATOR WHO IS NOT THE CITY, THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION OVERWHELMINGLY SAID, WE DON'T WANT THE CITY OPERATING THIS FACILITY. WE WANT A FACILITY OPERATOR OR OPERATORS WHO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY TO OPERATE THE SPACE OR SPACE SAYS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE ARE WITH THE RFI PROCESS WAS REALLY TO HELP TARGET AND NARROW DOWN BOTH AND INFORM BOTH THE ACQUISITION PART OF THE REAL ESTATE AND THE OPERATORS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY, UM, MANAGE, UM, THE REAL ESTATE SPACES. SO WE'RE GOING AFTER OPERATORS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL SPACES, AND THEY WILL WET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS. SO, UH, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO ISSUE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS. OUR REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS THAT WILL LET WHICH FOR A FACILITY OPERATOR TEAM AND THAT TEAM, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DO IS PRESENT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS [00:05:02] AND ALL THAT WILL BE SPELLED OUT IN THE RFQ. WHAT THE RFI ALSO DID IS REALLY HELPING FOR EARLY LEADS. AND WE HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF THAT TO OUR BROKER, JOHN LANG LASALLE, WHO ARE, WHO IS BEGINNING TO SEARCH OUT THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES OF REAL ESTATE, THE QUALITY YEAH, OPERATORS THAT THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS AND THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS, THERE'LL BE A HANDFUL THAT WILL BE INVITED TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS. AND THOSE PROPOSALS WILL BE BASED ON ACTUAL SPACES THAT OUR BROKER COMMUNITY AND BEEN ABLE TO SECURE AND TO HAVE. SO THEY'RE REALLY WARM LEADS, NOT JUST WARM LEADS FOR REALLY DOABLE LEADS SO THAT THE QUALIFIED WHO GET TO REVIEW THESE HAND SELECTED FACILITIES, AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS, HAVING HAD REVIEWED AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE SPACES. AND SO THE PROPOSALS WILL BE BASED ON OUR ACTUAL SPACES AND, UM, TO REALLY HELP, UH, AN INFORMED PROCESS. SO WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THERE IS THESE BONDS ARE NOT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND BACK IN 2019, I, I DID A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN, THAT THESE BONDS ARE, WERE ISSUED IN PROPOSITION B IN 2018, WHICH IS CULTURAL FACILITIES, LIBRARIES, AND MUSEUMS. AND SO WE HAVE THIS RANGE OF MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS PRIVATE BENEFIT, PRIVATE OWNERSHIP FOR PROFIT LIMITED ACCESS ON ONE SIDE, WHICH IS MORE ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPING, BUT THE FARTHER WE CAN GET FOR A CLEAR PUBLIC PURPOSE, PUBLIC OWNERSHIP THAT IT'S RUN BY A NONPROFIT THAT IT IS FOR REALLY LONGTERM AFFORDABLE SPACE, WHOSE MISSION IS THE MISSION OF AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE. WE CAN GET ATTORNEY GENERAL AND BOND COUNCIL APPROVAL. SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT FRAMEWORK AGAIN, TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NARROW UNIVERSE OF WHAT THE $12 MILLION CAN GO FOR. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER TOOLS AND OTHER RESOURCES THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR TO REALLY HAVE A MORE ROBUST IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. BUT THE $12 MILLION REALLY HAS A VERY USEFUL NICHE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE BE ALL. AND THE END ALL LAST SLIDE, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS THESE TWO SLIDES, BUT I DID WANT TO ALSO BRING TO THE COMMISSIONER'S ATTENTION AND TURN IT OVER TO OUR PURCHASING PARTNER. OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS, IS HELPING WORKING WITH US HAND IN GLOVE. THERE ARE ORDINANCES THAT WILL ATTACH AS SOON AS THE CITY ISSUES. THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WOULD START TO SEE OFFICIAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND ORDINANCES ATTACHED TO THAT REALLY NARROW, UM, COMMUNICATION IN ORDER TO PREVENT LOBBYING OR UNDUE INFLUENCE. UM, AND YOU ALL SERVE AS CITY OFFICIALS. SO Y'ALL ARE GOVERNED BY THIS ORDINANCE. SO I WANTED TO TURN THIS OVER TO MATTHEW AND OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ORDINANCES THAT GOVERN WHAT WILL BE THIS UPCOMING SOLICITATION. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRISTINE, A LITTLE COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MATTHEW DURRY. I'M A PURCHASING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PURCHASING OFFICE. I'M DOING IT FOR SEAN, WE'LL IT TONIGHT. AND AS CHRISTINE SAID, I REALLY JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND GO OVER THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ANTI LOBBYING ORDINANCE OR ALO IS IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AND JUST KIND OF HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS AND SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT I THINK, UH, YOU NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF REGARDING CONTACT BEING CITY EFFICIENT. UM, SO REAL QUICK, BUT THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF THE ALO IS TO PROVIDE THE MOST FAIR, EQUITABLE, COMPETITIVE PROCESS POSSIBLE FOR SELECTION AMONG POTENTIAL VENDORS. SO THE CITY CAN ACQUIRE A BEST AND MOST COMPETITIVE GOODS AND SERVICES. AND TO FURTHER OUR COMPLIANCE WITH STATE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS, [00:10:02] THERE'S THREE DEFINITIONS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND, UH, CARDING THE ALO. THE FIRST IS A RESPONDENT AND THAT'S REALLY THE ENTITY WHO HAS TIMELY SUBMITTED A REQUEST OR TIMELY SUBMITTED A RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR SOLICITATION. AND EVEN IF THAT PERSON SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDRAW WITHDRAWALS, THAT RESPONSE, OR IF THAT PERSON HAS BEEN DEVOLVED A DISQUALIFY, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED A RESPONDENT. A RESPONDENT ALSO INCLUDES ANY SUBSIDIARY OR PARENT COMPANY, A JOINT ENTERPRISE JOINT VENTURE, A PARTNERSHIP, UH, AND SUBCONTRACT. SO ALL THOSE ARE CONSIDERED RESPONDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ANTI LOBBY, AN AGENT IS ESSENTIALLY A PERSON AUTHORIZED BY THOSE RESPONDENTS WERE BY THAT RESPONSE TO ACT IN PLACE OF THAT RESPONDENT. SO MAYBE THEY HIRED SOMEONE OR DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY. AND THE LAST DEFINITION IS THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON. THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON IS THE ACTUAL CITY EMPLOYEE DESIGNATED BY THAT SOLICITATION AS THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR PURPOSES OF THAT SOLICITATION. AND WHILE THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUED OR AFTER THAT SOLICITATION, IT SHOULD BEAR. THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS ALLOWED COMMUNICATE REGARDING THAT SOLICITATION. SO THE RESTRICTIONS ON LOBBY ARE IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME THE SOLICITATION PUBLISHES UNTIL ONE OF THREE, ONE TO THREE TIMES, THEY'LL THE SOLICITATION PUBLISHES ALL GOES INTO EFFECT AND IT IS IN EFFECT UNTIL ONE, THE SOLICITATION IS CANCELED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ALL ENDS TO ANY CONTRACTS RESULTING FROM THE SOLICITATION FOR EXECUTED CONTRACTS EXECUTED, OR THE THIRD ITEM. OUR OPTION IS 60 DAYS FOLLOWING CANCEL OPTIMIZATION. SO LET'S SAY YOU ISSUE A SOLICITATION, ALL GOES INTO EFFECT, GOES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, AND THE CONTRACT IS NOT EXECUTED WITHIN 60 DAYS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. THAT'S THE ALO. WELL, SO JUST THAT'S OUR TIMELINE OR WHEN ALO APPLIES REAL QUICK, I'LL GO OVER WHAT IS RESTRICTED DURING, AND ESSENTIALLY A RESPONDENT OR AGENT CANNOT COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH CITY OFFICIAL OR A CITY EMPLOYEE, A SOUL CITY OFFICIAL, OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONERS INCLUDED IN ORDER TO BE ONE OF THE FOLLOW LINE PROVIDE YEAH, FORMATION ABOUT A RESPONDENT WILL RESPOND WITH RESPECT TO THIS SOLICITATION, THE COURAGE TO CITY TO REJECT ONE OR MORE RESPONSES CONVEY A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT SOLICITATION OR ASK A CITY OFFICIAL, UH, FAVOR OR OPPOSE RECOMMEND OR NOT VOTE FOR OR AGAINST CONSIDER OR NOT CONSIDER TAKE ACTION OR REFRAIN FROM TAKING ACTION ON APRIL OR DECISION IN REGARDS TO THAT. SO STATION ITSELF, THE SECOND ITEM THAT IS, BUT IT DID, AND THIS REALLY APPLIES TO COMMISSIONERS AS CITY OFFICIALS, THE CITY OFFICIALS SHALL NOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THEY RESPONDENT REGARDING A RESPONSE. WELL, THE SOLICITATION TO WHICH THE NO LOBBYING PERIOD OF LOSS. SO ONCE THAT SUBSTATION IS ISSUED AND ANTI-CLOTTING ORDINANCES AND EXPECT NO LOBBY PERIOD, THE OFFICIAL SHALL NOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE RESPONDENT REGARDING SSKC. AND IF THIRD RESTRICTED ITEMS AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, OTHER THAN THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON SHALL NOT CONTACT THE RESPONDING GARDENS. SO CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES SHALL NOT CONTACT WITH THERE'S A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE PERMITTED UNDER THIS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT, THEIR AGENT, AND THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON, UH, COMMUNICATION THAT THEY RESPONDED OR THEIR AGENT AND WAITING TO CURRENT CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A RESPONDENT AND THEIR AGENT AND A STAFF MEMBER, A LADY, AND SORT OF NON SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL MATTERS, FORMAL PROTEST HEARINGS DO NOT APPLY ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON. SMALL MINORITY BUSINESS RESOURCE WAS DEPARTMENT DO NOT APPLY YEAH. VACATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT'S ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY DO NOT APPLY COMMUNICATION MADE HERE IN A PROPERLY NOTICED MEETING THEY'LL BOND WITH THE TEXAS OPEN TO MULTIPLY AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY STAFF WHOSE OFFICIAL RESPONSIBILITY QUEEN'S SENDING INSURANCE, WHO IS THIS PATIENT ALSO DO WELL, IF YOU DO FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION, UH, THAT, SO I DON'T WANT TO RESPOND TO HIS REACHED OUT TO YOU AND WITH ME DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, UH, TO DISCLOSE THE VIOLATION, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT A CITY OFFICIAL OR EMPLOYEE THAT BECOMES AWARE OF THE VIOLATION, NOTIFY THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON IN WRITING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THAT [00:15:01] I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE, SHAWN WILL IT FOR THIS ONE, SHE WILL BE LISTED IN THE SOLICITATION ITSELF AND THEY'LL LIKELY BE A BACKUP IN THERE AS WELL. SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN WRITTEN LOGGING VIOLATION, AND YOU JUST NEED TO DISCLOSE THAT TO THE AUTHORIZED CONTENT. AND IF THERE IS A VIOLATION, SO LET'S SAY A CONCERN IS SUBMITTED, IT'S REVIEWED, AND IT IS DETERMINED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION THAT RESPONDENT WILL BE DISQUALIFIED FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE SOLICITATION, AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN ANY RECENT ELICITATION. SO THAT SAME PROJECT, THE RESPONDENT MAY APPEAL THIS DISQUALIFICATION TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ETHICS COMMISSION, WHERE THEY CAN REQUEST A HEARING, WILL THEY INDEPENDENTLY ARE OPPOSITE AND RESPONDENTS THAT VIOLATE THE ORBITS THREE OR MORE TIMES IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD TO BE SUBJECT TO DEPARTMENT. UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN GENERAL, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THIS IS KIND OF WANT TO GO BACK AND GET ONE OR TWO POINTS. SO ALS IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME OF SOLICITATION IS HIS ISSUE UNTIL THAT SOLICITATION IS CANCEL THERE'S EXECUTED CONTRACTS OR 60 DAYS AFTER COUNCIL ONE ITEM NUMBER, AND THE CITY OFFICIAL CANNOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESPONDENT REGARDING THE RESPONSE TO THE SOLICITATION. IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT HAS BEEN VIOLATED AND JUST NOTIFY THE OPERA. AND SO THAT KIND OF WRAPS UP MY SUMMATION OF ALL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR RESPOND TO ANY CONCERNS. THANK YOU, MATTHEW. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? I DO MATTHEW, MY NAME'S ANDREW, AND, UH, I AM A TENANT AND, AND WORK WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED. SO I'M A COMMISSIONER, BUT I'M ALSO A TENANT AND A POTENTIAL BUSINESS. UM, I'VE TRIED TO BE VERY CAREFUL, NOT THAT I KNOW MUCH INSIDER INFORMATION. I CERTAINLY HAVEN'T VOTED OR DONE ANYTHING, BUT ARE THERE MORE DEEP LINES I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING GOES WRONG. YEAH. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT THE ALO, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE WORRIED ABOUT, BUT POSSIBLY JUST DISCLOSING THAT POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. UM, WHEN YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS ITEM OR DISCUSSING THAT ITEM WITH THE COMMISSION WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO DO A COUPLE OF NICHES TO SEAN, YOUR CONCERNS. AND WE CAN, WE HAVE A DISPOSURE FORMS FOR ANYBODY TO DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE MAY BE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND JUST TO, TO NOTE IT AND MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE CITY BOSTON'S LEGAL REVIEW. THOSE DETERMINE IF IT REALLY IS A CONFLICT OR IF IT'S JUST A APPRECIATE THE DISCLOSURE. UM, SO, SO I WOULD GO DOWN THAT PATH. UM, IF, IF YOU ARE PART OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS SUBMITTING A RESPONSE, I'M A TENANT. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, I THINK YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU DISCLOSE THAT POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I DON'T BELIEVE THE ALO WOULD APPLY TO YOU IS LESS THAT PROPERTY OWNER OR GROUP ASKS YOU SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOLICITATION. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ADVISE CITY STAFF AND SAY, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. WE ARE ONLY THE CATALOGING MOVEMENTS, NO LOBBY PERIOD. AND THEN JUST EMAIL THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT. AS I SAID, WE HAVE CASES LIKE THIS THAT COME UP ALL THE TIME AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY INNOCENT COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST SAY, SUBMIT EVERYTHING YOU FEEL MAY BE A VIOLATION, YOU'LL REVIEW IT. AND MANY OF THEM ARE NOT. UM, BUT IF THEY ARE LIKE YOU, YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, STEPS IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. YEAH. ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF YOU CAN SEND TO EITHER MYSELF OR KIM MCCARSON, WE CAN SEND OUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF TO THE COMMISSION. ABSOLUTELY. BE HAPPY TO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONING RULES CAN HEAR YOUR GRAM, TRY GRAHAM. YOU'RE NOT MUTED. I CAN SEE YOU AS NEEDED, BUT I JUST COULDN'T HEAR YOU WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, SO I'M JUST SLIGHTLY CONFUSED BY IT. FIRST OF ALL, [00:20:01] IS R TO OUR RFI. THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. IS THAT ALREADY A SOLICITOR? SO THE, THE RFI TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT'S CLOSED. UM, SO IT WAS THAT THERE'S NO CURRENT EXISTING ANTI LOBBYING WORK IT'S IN THE LOBBY PERIOD. WHEN THAT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION ISSUES, THERE WILL BE ANTI LOBBY ORDINANCE WILL BE IN EFFECT AND THE LOBBYING PERIOD WILL START. AND THE SUBSEQUENT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, THAT'S GOING TO BE ISSUED. SAME THING THAT ONCE IT'S ISSUED AND NO LOBBYING PERIOD EQUAL START ON THAT AS WELL. CURRENTLY YOU'RE THERE IS NO ALL. SO, AND THEN IN SERVING A ROLE AS COMMISSIONER IS NOT, I UNDERSTAND THE UNDO INSIDER INFORMATION OR THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN A VERY CONFUSING PROCESS TO THE COMMUNITY. SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE MOST ABOUT IT IN THEORY. AND I WOULD THINK THAT FOLKS WOULD THAT WE WOULD BE A SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T BE, IS THAT CORRECT? ONCE THE RFQ IS IN PLACE, ALL QUESTIONS. IF YOU GET QUESTIONS, IF YOU CAN FORWARD THEM OR TO SEAN RELIG, SHE'LL BE THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT BEFORE WE ISSUE THE RFQ, WHICH IS NOT OUT YET. AND THE RF, THE ANTI LOBBY WORKS, DIDN'T APPLY IT. DOESN'T APPLY TO THE RFI AND IT'S CLOSED. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS PRETTY FREELY NOW, UM, UNTIL THEN, UM, AND SO WE ALSO ARE ON OUR SPEAK-UP AUSTIN WEBSITE, POPULATING EVERY SINGLE QUESTION THAT WE'VE GOT FOR INFORMATION, AND EVEN AFTER, CAUSE WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS COMING IN ABOUT THE PROCESS. WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO ANSWER AND POST THEM PUBLICLY. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION UNTIL THE RFQ IS OUT. AND THEN AFTER THAT INVOLVES REALLY HAVING SEAN, WILL IT BE THE AUTHORIZED LEAD IN THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION? AND YOU WOULD JUST BE FORWARDING QUESTIONS TO SEAN? WELL, SO KNOWING THAT SEAN KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE AND KNOWING THAT SEAN WILL IS THE ANSWER IS NOT CONSIDERED INSIDE INFORMATION, IT WILL BE PUBLIC IT'S PUBLIC, PUBLIC PUBLIC. WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN THE RFI. WE WE'VE PUBLICLY STATED IN THE RFP THAT WE ISSUED THAT SHE WOULD BE THE PROCUREMENT. SO ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUBLICLY SAD, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PRESENTATIONS, ET CETERA, WE'RE PUTTING ON THAT SPEAK UP AUSTIN SITE, ALL OF THAT IS PUBLIC AND EASILY DISTRIBUTED. SO IF A PIECE OF INFORMATION IS PUBLIC, CAN WE REPEAT IT TO SOMEONE WHO ASKS A QUESTION? YES. IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION THAT WOULD SORT OF FALL UNDER THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION, SO IF POSSIBLE, RESPOND AND SAY, WHO'S THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT FOR CIGARETTES. YOU COULD SAY, SEAN WILL, IS HE NEED TO TALK TO. AND WHAT IS LIKE CHRISTINA HAS EXPLAINED A LOT ABOUT, UM, FROM MUSEUMS TO PRIVATE, LIKE THIS WAS VERY COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING CLEAR A BLURRY PROCESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME. AND, UH, THERE'S STILL JUST GOING TO BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE LIKE, CAN I APPLY FOR THAT? I, UH, DO I, AM I, WHERE DO I FALL IN THIS SPECTRUM? AND WE IT'S BEEN PUBLIC INFORMATION. THIS IS PUBLIC, THIS IS PUBLIC AND PUBLICLY VETTED OR PUBLICLY SPOKEN. AND THESE MEETINGS AND OTHERWISE IS THAT INFORMATION WE CAN SHARE OR NOT SHARE OR DO IT. IS THAT ALSO A SHAWN WILL. YES. SO I WOULD DEFAULT DEFER ALL QUESTIONS ONCE THAT'S THE STATIONS AND DISTRIBUTE TO SHAWN THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHE WILL BE ANSWERING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU, YOURSELF, GRAHAM ARE THE EXPERT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE. SHE GETS THAT QUESTION FROM A HOSPITAL RESPONDENT. SHE'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT. SHE'S BEEN REACHED OUT TO THE EXPERT WHO KNOWS THAT, THAT ANSWER, GET THE ANSWER AND THEN PROVIDE THAT ANSWER TO THE RESPONSE. SHE'S THIS, JUST TO ENSURE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS OPEN, THE CITY'S AWARE OF IT. THERE'S NO BACK CHANNEL LOBBY OR THING LIKE THAT. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS IT STILL SEEMS CONFUSING, BUT I THINK I GET THE BASICS. UH, I THINK STEWART IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. WHEN YOU SAY SUBCONTRACTORS, I MEAN, HE'S NOT EXACTLY A SUBCONTRACTOR, BUT MUSIC IS SUCH AN INTERWOVEN BUSINESS OF CASUAL TO FORMAL CONTRACTS AND BUSINESS AGREEMENTS. UH, WE, IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE HAVING REGULAR GIGS, WHICH ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN, SO NOW IT'S OUR VENUES, YOU KNOW, I'M PLAYING GAY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MINE. THAT'S A SUB CONTRACT. LIKE WE'RE, [00:25:01] UH, AT LEAST IN AN INFORMAL WAY, AT WHAT POINT DO WE BECOME PART OF THE PARTY THAT'S APPLYING IF WE PLAY A GAME AND WE'RE THERE FOR A SUBCONTRACTOR IN THERE FOR ONE OF THE CAMP, REMEMBER THE WORD YOU USED. SO FOR THE PERSON WHO'S PARTY TO THE APPLICATION. YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE A MUSICIAN WHO'S GETTING BOOKED IN AN EVENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PART OF THAT RESPONSE. LIKE IF THE OWNER OF THE EVENT, THEN YOU IS THE RESPONSE OR THE MANAGER OF THAT EVENT. SO THOSE, DID YOU NOT SAY THAT A SUBCONTRACTOR IS A RESPONDENT? YEAH. SO YEAH. TAKE FOR INSTANCE. AND MAYBE THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A BAD EXAMPLE. SO I'LL GO TO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE, LIKE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. UH, YOU'VE GOT A, A CONSTRUCTION TEAM THAT SAYS I CAN BUILD THIS BUILDING FOR THE CITY. AND THEN I HAVE THESE THREE SUBCONTRACTS SUBCONTRACTORS. ONE'S AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER. ONE IS A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE INDIVIDUAL. SO THE RESPONDING WITHIN A GROUP, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND THEIR THREE SUB CONTRACTORS THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO USE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. YEAH, EXACTLY. AND SO, SO TO ME, I'M A MUSICIAN OR A BAND SEEMS EXACTLY LIKE THE PLUMBER, THE ELECTRICIAN IN THAT CONTEXT SAY I'M TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS AND I'M PUTTING ON A SHOW. AND I SAY, INSTEAD OF BUILDING A BUILDING, I CAN PRESENT AN EVENT AND I'M GOING TO HIRE AN ENGINEER AND THE LIGHTING PERSON AND THE SOUND PERSON AND THE ARTIST ALL TO CREATE THIS EVENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS THING. AND INSTEAD OF MAKING A BUILDING, THEY'RE MAKING MUSIC AND THEY'RE BEING PAID. IT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE A SUBCONTRACTOR AGREEMENT TO ME. YES. THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THAT. SO IF THEY'RE SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL INCLUDES THAT LIST OF INDIVIDUALS WITH A LIST OF COMPANIES THAT COMPRISE THEIR TEAM AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CONSIDERED ITSELF. SO I THINK WE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT HERE THOUGH. AND I THINK THE DISCONNECT IS BETWEEN WHO IS ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO BE A FACILITY OPERATOR TO, AND TO BE PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S DELIVERING THE SPACE VERSUS MAYBE A USER OF THE SPACE FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD WHEN IT'S BUILT. UM, TO ME THERE'S A LEGAL LIABILITY THAT IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S SUBMITTING TO BE ROUGH FACILITY OPERATOR AND OR HELP CONSTRUCT AND INFORM THE CREATIVE SPACE, NOT TO USE IT AT SOME TIME DOWN THE ROAD, THROUGH A BOOKING, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A PARTY TO THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BIND THEM TO DELIVERING ON $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND. THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT. AND THAT WOULD BE A SUBCONTRACT. OKAY. THAT HELPS. I MEAN, THE REASON I'M ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, CAUSE LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF US, BUT I WORK WITH FILM PEOPLE AND THEATER PEOPLE AND DANCE PEOPLE AND MUSIC FOLKS IN VENUES. AND LIKE I'M CONSTANTLY TALKING TO PEOPLE. ANY OF THEM MIGHT BE PART OF ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS AND I DON'T WANT TO ACCIDENTALLY SCREW UP THEIR CHANCES BY ENGAGING IN A CONVERSATION OR SHARING WHAT INFORMATION THAT I CONSIDER PUBLIC. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT PUBLICLY AND THEN TURNS OUT TO SLIDE OVER THE LINE OF INSIDER. YEAH. AND THEN THAT INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ADVISE CITY STAFF AND CITY OFFICIALS, ONCE THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUE, DON'T TALK THAT PUBLICLY. AND THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO POSE TO SEAN IS RATHER THAN FIGURE OUT ALL THE DETAILS, JUST FIND OUT WHAT I CAN SAY TO FARE. IF I THINK TWICE I COULD GO TO, I DON'T WHAT I CAN SAY. SO THAT WAY I SCREWED UP, THAT WOULD BE MY, CERTAINLY MY PREFERENCE FOR HOW THIS WORKS. YEAH. AND I CAN GO OVER THAT KIND OF BRIEF LIST OF WHAT IS PERMITTED WHILE WE ARE AN ANTI LOBBYING PERIOD AGAIN, SO THAT THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 10, 12 OF THEM, BUT SO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THAT RESPONDENT AND THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT VERSUS, OR IF THAT COMMUNICATION TAKES PLACE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE AUTHORIZED PERSON. SO WITH SEAN, SO YOU AND A RESPONDENT, OR HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH SEAN THERE THAT'S OKAY. INDICATION WITH THE RESPONDENT OR AGENT RELATING TO A CORRECT CONTRACT. SO IF THEY HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT OR THEIR AGENCY STAFF MEMBER RELATING TO NON SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL MODEL MATTERS. UM, SO A GOOD EXAMPLE, I THINK FOR THEM AS WELL IS IF THEY ASK MAYBE AUTHORIZED CONTACT IS THAT'S A NON PROCEDURAL MATTERS, UH, ANYTHING RELATED TO PROTESTS OR HEARINGS IN BETWEEN THAT RESPONDENT AND SMB ARE LAID INTO A SMALL AMOUNT OF BUSINESS RESOURCE PROGRAMS, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN [00:30:01] THAT RESPONDENT'S ATTORNEY AND A CITY ATTORNEY COMMUNICATION DURING A PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETING UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS MEETING WILL, WILL FALL UNDER AND COMMUNICATION WITH CITY STAFF IS A PATROL RESPONSIBILITY, SAME AS INSURANCE. SO INSIDE OF THAT, ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS, UH, IF YOU ARE A CITY OFFICIAL OR A SAFETY STAFF, AND THAT'S WHY WE SAY ALWAYS DIFFER WHEN THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUED. AND UNTIL THAT CONTRACT IS CANCELED AND COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, IT ALWAYS DEFER TO, YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE OFFICE BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS ACCIDENTALLY GET SOMEONE IN TROUBLE. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS. UM, WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO, TO SEE THIS GO TO FRUITION. UH, BEEN A LOT OF WORK BY A LOT OF FOLKS, UM, TRYING TO GET THIS TOGETHER. AND IT'S, UH, IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED WITH THAT. UM, EARLIER I TRIED TO, UH, MOBLEY DURING SUSAN'S COMMUNICATION. I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND HE WAS ON THE LINE, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO CONNECT HIM IF HE IS STILL AVAILABLE. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM TO SPEAK AGAIN, AS HE WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO B, WHICH WILL BE UP NEXT. SO MOBILY, ARE YOU THERE? I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR BEING FLEXIBLE AND LETTING ME COME BACK. SORRY ABOUT THE EARLIER, UM, I AM SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF A SMALL, SOMEWHAT INFORMAL GROUP OF MUSICIANS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME COMMUNITY BUILDING DURING, DURING THIS DOWN PERIOD, UH, AS A RESULT, I THINK OUR WORK KIND OF INTERSECTS WITH THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA POINT IN THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING A PROJECT TO, UH, TO KIND OF TRY TO CHECK THE PULSE OF, UH, LIVE MUSICIANS IN THE CITY. UH, GIVEN THAT LIVE PERFORMANCES IS BASICALLY AT A STANDSTILL AT THIS POINT. AND, UM, IT'S BEEN ON A NUMBER OF LEVELS. IT'S KIND OF A TIME OF RECKONING FOR THE COUNTRY AND FOR THE CITY. UM, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THINK THROUGH APPROACHES TO IMPROVE THE STATUS QUO, UH, FOR, FOR LIVE MUSICIANS HERE IN THE CITY AND, UH, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND WHICH I WANTED TO BRING THE COMMISSION IS, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ENGAGED A LOCAL NONPROFIT MEASURE WHO IS HELPING US, UH, THEY'RE WORKING PRO BONO TO HELP US TO DEVELOP A SURVEY, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT, TO BE LIVE MUSICIANS IN THE CITY, UM, AGES TO KIND OF SEE HOW EVERYBODY IS MANAGING THROUGH ALL OF THIS. UH, BUT THEN, THEN ALSO TO SPECIFICALLY, UH, KIND OF GET UP, GET A PULSE ON WHAT PEOPLE'S FEELINGS ARE ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE WORKING IN THE CITY FOR LIVE MUSICIANS AND IN PARTICULAR, UM, AREAS IN WHICH THERE CAN BE IMPROVEMENTS AROUND EQUITY AND AROUND, UM, AROUND, UH, PREVENTING DISCRIMINATION OF VARIOUS KINDS THAT WE KNOW, UM, GOES ON. SO ANYWAY, THE IDEA IS TO, UH, TO PERFORM THIS, TO CONDUCT THIS SURVEY AND THEN, UM, TAKE THE RESULTS OF THAT AND TURN THEM INTO, UH, COFFEE IDEAS TO HELP, UH, REMEDIATE THE SITUATION AROUND EQUITY AND THE CITY. AND MY ASK ME THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THIS WAS, UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS SO SQUARELY WITHIN THE MANDATE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, WE WONDERED WHETHER THERE WOULD BE INTEREST IN CONDUCTING THE SURVEY KIND OF UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION. UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE AREN'T A TON OF RESOURCES TO BRING TO BEAR ON THIS WEEK. LIKE I SAID, WE, WE HAVE WE'VE ENGAGED THE NONPROFIT, UM, PRO BONO. SO THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SURVEY AND THE DISSEMINATION OF THE SURVEY IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED AND READY TO KIND OF SPREAD THE WORD. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO KIND OF ORGANIZATIONAL AND PREMATURE ON IT. AND, UM, [00:35:01] I COULDN'T REALLY THINK OF A BETTER, BETTER GROUP THAN THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO COME TO WITH IT. OKAY, GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR STICKING AROUND. I'M SORRY ABOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EARLIER. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR SORT OF YOUR THOUGHTS WITH [2b. Discussion and Possible Action on Live Music Fund recommendations with specific attention to systemic racism and equity. ] THAT. WE CAN GO TO TWO B, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND RECOMMENDATIONS WITH SPECIFIC ATTENTION TO SYSTEMATIC RACISM AND EQUITY, UH, AND JUST TO KIND OF UPDATE EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND LIVE MUSIC, A WORK FUND WORKING GROUP HAD THEIR FINAL MEETING RECENTLY, AND THEY, THEY HAD RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, CAN ANYONE FROM THAT WORKING GROUP KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHERE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS LANDING, I WOULD RECOMMEND GAVIN OR POSSIBLY AND CHARLOTTE TO SPEAK ON IT? SURE. SO, UM, YEAH, IF, UM, CHAKA AND GAVIN, IF YOU WILL JUMP IN TO CORRECT ME, UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION DOCUMENT THAT WAS PRODUCED. UM, AND I WOULD SAY AT A HIGH LEVEL, WHAT THAT RECOMMENDS AS THAT, UM, AND ADVISORY BOARD BE FORMED, UM, CONSISTING OF, UH, AN EXECUTIVE BOARD AND THEN SUB COMMITTEES. AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AS A MUSIC COMMISSION, LIKE HOW, HOW THAT NEWS FOR, IN TERMS OF BEING FORMED OR PLANTED. AND THEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SUICIDE, IS THAT THE EQUITY PART OF THAT, HOW THAT'S GONNA, HOW THAT'S GONNA FUNCTION GOING FORWARD WITH THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING FUND THAT'S RIGHT. UH, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. YEP. OKAY, GOOD. ALRIGHT. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T CONCLUDE WAS, UH, AN INITIAL BOARD, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHO MIGHT COMPRISE THE BOARD THAT WOULD, UH, UH, DO A COUPLE OF THINGS PUT TOGETHER, UH, IDENTIFY THE, THE SECTORS, UH, THAT WOULD CREATE THIS CROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, INCLUSIVITY. AND THEN THAT BODY WOULD ALSO HELP WRITE THE CRITERIA. SO THE RECOMMENDATION, AS IT'S GIVEN TO THIS, TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION NOW IS STILL A NEED. UH, IF WE WANT TO ENGAGE THAT, UH, VINNIE CRITERIA BEING LAID OUT AT THIS POINT, IF NOT, IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE CRITERIA ON THE USES OF THIS FUND, THEN ARE WE GOING TO RECOMMEND BODIES OR EVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE ON THIS GROUP? WHAT WAS THE WRECK? JUST SO I UNDERSTAND A WORKING GROUP TO NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ASPECT? NO, WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT WHEN, UM, WE HAD TOOK IT, TAKEN OUR BREAK. SO WE'RE AT THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE IT WAS FORWARDED WITH THAT THOUGH, WITHOUT THOSE CONTAINERS. AND THEN, YEAH, JUST TO REMIND Y'ALL, UM, WHEN, SO NOVIA PRESENT US A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, LIKE THE CITY HAS ASKED US FOR SOME HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY CAN OPERATIONALIZE. SO WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE CITY. UM, SO THAT, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY BROAD, BUT, UM, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING HERE FOR US TO DISCUSS, SO THAT THERE'S GUIDANCE, UH, FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD GOING FORWARD. YEAH. AND I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHENEVER WE'RE DONE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC TO ALIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP, BUT I FELT LIKE THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP GOT US TO A POSITION WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH OF A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING TO THE CITY AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON DEVELOPING IT. IT'S NOT FULLY REALIZED, BUT I THINK IT'S IN A PLACE WITH ENOUGH, UM, INFRASTRUCTURAL IDEAS AND CONCEPTS, OR WE CAN CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO HONE THOSE THINGS AS, UH, AND CHARLOTTE WAS SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS IN NOVEMBER. SO, UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE HAD MET AS A GROUP SINCE JUNE, UM, SINCE I RAISED ISSUES AROUND EQUITY, UM, WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO MEET. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR STEPPED DOWN AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL HAS STEPPED DOWN. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST TIME TO WRAP UP WHERE WE WERE AT AND KIND OF MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THE CITY, AT LEAST SOME OF, SOME OF THE IDEAS AND [00:40:01] CONCEPTS FOR HOW, UM, SOME OF THE HOT TAX MONEY COULD BE ALLOCATED. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYBODY ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION GOT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE OR, UM, I HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC, UM, EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WANT TO RAISE TO TAKE THIS IN CHUNKS. AND SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS AROUND, UM, THE MAKEUP OF THAT BODY FIRST, WE WANT TO DECIDE THAT THIS EVENING, UM, WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE AGAIN, WHEN YOU GUYS WANTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, COUNSEL HAS ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, BUT IF, UM, THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULDN'T LIKE IT AND OUR INFORMATION WOULD LIKE BY THE END OF NOVEMBER SO THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO WHEN WE'RE OUT TALKING, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. SORRY. SO NOW IF YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME, I JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO WELL. I'M THINKING POSSIBLY WE COULD BURN AGAIN, THIS IS UP TO EVERYONE, BUT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND DEVELOP OTHER STONE. SO YOU'VE GOT TO JUST HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH, UM, AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WE WORK MORE ON THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S NOT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE I'M ON TWITTER? UH, I'M, I'M UNCLEAR WHAT THE, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. I'VE BEEN LOOKING OVER THE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT. THE 10 PAGE DOCUMENT ARE, UM, ARE, ARE, THIS IS A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FORMING A BOARD, BUT DOES IT DEFINE WHAT THE BOARD'S ROLE IS AND, OR IS IT A RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW THE MONEY SHOULD BE ALLOCATED? UH, LIKE WHAT, OR IS IT A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH? I THINK IT'S PRIMARILY ESTABLISHED WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD IS, AND HOW IT WORKS. YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MEMBERS, WHAT THE ROLES ARE NOT GET INTO DETAIL ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC TYPES OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FUNDED OR A SPECIFIC DIRECTION. SO WHAT, UH, WHAT DOES THE BOARD DO EXACTLY? OKAY, WELL, LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ IT. SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THIS TO THE ADVISORY BOARD. UH, THE WORKING GROUP DELIBERATED EXTENSIVELY REGARDING THE STRUCTURE OF A CITIZENS LED ADVISORY BOARD TO GOVERN THE USE OF FUNDS, OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD SHOULD CON SHALL CONSIST OF 13 MEMBERS, EACH SERVING ALTERNATING TWO YEAR TERMS, THE TWO TERM LIMIT, AND THE TWO TERM LIMIT CAN BE EXTENDED BY A SUPER MAJORITY TWO-THIRD VOTE OF THE BOARD. UM, AND THEN THOSE TERMS SHOULD RUN, UH, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, UH, THE BOARD WOULD BE DIVIDED INTO TWO GROUPS, GROUP AND GROUP BEACH, SERVING ALTERNATING TERMS, UH, SIMILAR TO CITY COUNCIL, THE TEN ONE. AND THAT STARTED, UH, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T DIVE INTO WHAT SECTORS THOSE 13 MEMBERS WOULD POSSIBLY BE BY NOR WHAT CRITERIA THEY WOULD CREATE, UM, FOR USES OF THIS HOTEL TAX. SO IT'S CALLED AN ADVISORY BOARD, BUT THEN YOU ALSO SAID IT WOULD BE A GOVERNING BODY. SO IS IT, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD ALLOCATE FUNDS AND DISTRIBUTE FUNDS OR ARE THEY LITERALLY JUST RECOMMENDING, LIKE, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THEIR POWER OR NON-POWER POWER? WHAT IS THEIR PURVIEW? I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE UP TO THE CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE MUSIC OFFICE. I THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE GOT THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK IT WAS KIND OF LIKE POSSIBLY A PANEL TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT OR WE, WE JUST, WE HADN'T WORKED THAT OUT. SO LIKE, I FELT LIKE, AGAIN, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I FELT LIKE WE CAN FLESH OUT. THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE CITY'S LOOKING FOR DIRECTIONS. THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT OBVIOUSLY HASN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GONE INTO FULL, FULL DETAIL, BUT IT IS, IT IS A DIRECTION, UM, THAT PROVIDE SOMETHING. MAYBE THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE 15 PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY THINK, OH, THEY DON'T LIKE ANY OF IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION. IT'S A, IT'S A SUGGESTION THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAME UP WITH, [00:45:01] UM, AND IT CAN CONTINUE TO BE WORKED. IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE JUST HAD TO KIND OF END THAT PHASE OF, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THE WORK. AND WE DID SO, AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THIS FORWARD OR NOT. UM, BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CREATED AS A GROUP. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, SO TWO QUESTIONS, ONE, THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDS THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WAS THAT A UNANIMOUS THING? I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BROAD ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE WORKABLE. I MEAN, IT DOES DEFINE ROLES ON THAT BOARD. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REVIEWING GRANTS, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S LOOKING FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. UM, SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK ALL OF THAT IS A GOOD BREAK DOWN. UM, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MUSIC COMMISSIONERS WOULD SERVE ON THE BOARD. LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF THE BOARD STRUCTURE ITSELF, WE DID TALK ABOUT SECTORS, UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ECONOMIC SECTORS OR MUSIC INDUSTRY SECTORS SHOULD BE REPRESENTED. UM, BUT I'VE, I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, WHAT'S MISSING IS THAT, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE REVIEWING GRANT PROPOSALS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO FUND WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE BACK TO THE, THE MUSIC COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD, OR WOULDN'T BE FUNDED. AND HE SORT OF FOCUSED WITH THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FUND IS TO, TO BUILD A MUSIC ACADEMY, UM, PROPEL IT FORWARD. SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S FOR THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IS IT FOR AFFORDABILITY AND WE'RE GIVING RENT STIPENDS, LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A, A CERTAIN, VERY CLOSE INTO THING, OR IS IT FOR THINGS THAT WOULD PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WHOLE ECONOMIC MUSIC ECONOMY SEC, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE FUNDING INNOVATION? ARE WE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, FOR A LEG UP FOR CERTAIN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES? AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT CERTAINLY WE ARE WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT. UM, SO THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, IN MY OPINION, FOR US TO DEFINE THOSE THINGS. YEAH, FOR ME, IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU'VE DONE A TON OF WORK AND IT'S SO DETAILED, WELL ORGANIZED DOCUMENT. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO, FOR THAT SET OF INFORMATION ONTO CITY STAFF. I AM CURIOUS FROM SYNOVIA FOR YOUR NOVEMBER DEADLINE OR WHATEVER, EXTENDED TIMELINE WE DETERMINED. WHAT, UH, WHAT OTHER, WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING, OTHER TYPES OF INFORMATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO GIVE YOU AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, AGAIN, HIGH LEVEL, IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFICS, GIVE THOSE TO ME. I DON'T WANT TO SAY, I DON'T WANT STAFF TO BE ACCUSED OF STAFF IS TELLING WHAT TO DO. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HEAR FROM YOU, TAKE THAT BACK, SEE HOW WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE IT, LINE IT UP WITH OUR OTHER DIVISIONS, MAKE SURE LAW HAS APPLIED, WHICH THE EQUITY OFFICES ARE FINE. COME BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEARD YOU HURT THE COMMUNITY AND THEN SAY, THIS IS WHAT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. I DON'T WANT IT TO SAY THAT STAFF DID NOT KNOW STAFF IS TAKING WHAT YOU TELL IT, US, SEEING HOW WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE IT AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU. BUT WHATEVER YOU THINK, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS IS PART OF A PROCESS. YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION IN NOVEMBER. THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS SHOWING THEM WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND IF THIS DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS A CONVERSATION, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE. UM, THIS DOESN'T LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING IS STONE. UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A PART OF THE PROCESS. SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIKE KIND OF WHERE IT'S HEADED, THEN, LIKE LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON. CORRECT. AND I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE IT IN SEMINAR. I SECOND THAT MOTION A REGULAR THAT, RICK, SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. UM, AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN FURTHER THE QUESTION. YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION FROM SONODA. YES OR NO. I JUST [00:50:01] WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE KELLY COLEMAN WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE. I ASKED HER TO SIT IN TO LESSONS. SO THE EQUITY OFFICE IS OBAMA'S JOURNEY WITH US. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, KELLY. ALRIGHT. IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO TAKE THE FLOOR CHAIR? YES, PLEASE. UM, I WANNA, UH, FIRST, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, MOWGLI WHAT HE OFFERED. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD KNOW BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER THAT WE SHOULD, UM, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, TAKING ON THAT SURVEY POSSIBLY WITHIN THE, UM, SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP AND MAKING THAT PART OF OUR WORK. UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THAT CENSUS AND JUST BECOMING AN ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES THAT ON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THAT BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER, BUT I PREPARED SOMETHING FOR THE DAY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, CONCERNS WITH HOT TAX FUNDS AND EQUITY AND, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS EQUITY WITHIN, UH, WITHIN, WITH THE HOT TAX FUNDS. FIRST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TREMENDOUS CHALLENGE OF THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS FOR NOT JUST THE WORLD, BUT PARTICULARLY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CREATE SPACE FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES DURING THIS TIME, USE THE DUTY FOR THE PANDEMIC OR OTHERWISE, BECAUSE NO MATTER WHY THE LOSS OCCURRED, THE PAIN AND GRIEF CUTS A LITTLE MORE DEEP DURING THIS PARTICULAR CHAPTER OF HUMAN HISTORY, EVERYTHING BECOMES AMPLIFIED IN TIMES LIKE THESE, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FORCED TO GO INSIDE AND STAY HOME. THIS PAST AT HOME HAS PUSHED MANY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO ASK, SEE THINGS THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEE AND FEEL THINGS THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FEEL SPENDING MORE TIME AWAY FROM THE DAILY MUNDANE RITUALS AND ACTIVITIES THAT MAY DISTRACT US FROM OUR SHORTCOMINGS AS INDIVIDUALS OR AS A SOCIETY. AS FAR AS CONFLICT INTENTION, TO RISE TO THE SURFACE. WE HAVE SEEN THIS TENSION MANIFEST AS PROTEST IN THE STREETS AND WITH DIRECT CALLS FOR INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE WITHIN FEDERAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THERE HAS BEEN NOWHERE TO RUN OR HIDE FOR MONTHS. AND COLLECTIVELY RESIDENTS HAVE HAD TO FACE MANY OF THE CITY'S MOST PROMINENT AND TROUBLING FAILURES HEAD ON FOR MANY EMPOWER FACING ISSUES OF INEQUITY AND THE DEMANDS FOR CHANGE THAT COME ALONG WITH THEM FEELS LIKE EVEN MORE LOSS ON TOP OF THE LOSSES THAT COLGATE HAS DIRECTLY ROCKED TO OUR COMMUNITIES. PHYSICAL HEALTH AS FREDERICK DOUGLASS STATED POWER CONCEDES, NOTHING WITHOUT A DEMAND. AND WHILE WORDS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED BY THOSE IN POWER ABOUT CONFRONTING ISSUES OF DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION DIRECTLY, WE SEE LITTLE CONCESSIONS TO THE DEMAND FOR DRAMATIC CHANGE THUS FAR WITHIN THE MUSIC SECTOR REGARDING EQUITY. HOW INTERESTING IS IT THAT THE VIRUS WAS SLOWED DOWN THE PLANET IN 2020 ATTACKS THE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, THE MURDER OF GEORGE FLORIDA WAS LITERALLY A CUTTING OFF OF HIS VARIABILITY AND RIGHT TO BREATHE. ISN'T IT INTERESTING AS WELL THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN DECLARED RACISM TO BE A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IN JULY, 2020, THIS HISTORIC PROCLAMATION EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED THAT RACISM CAUSES PERSISTENT DISCRIMINATION AND DISPARATE OUTCOMES AND MARRY MANY AREAS OF LIFE, INCLUDING HOUSING, EDUCATION, BUSINESS EMPLOYMENT, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND AN EMERGING BODY OF RESEARCH DEMONSTRATES THAT RACISM ITSELF IS A SOCIAL DETERMINANT OF HEALTH. MORE THAN 100 STUDIES HAVE LINKED RACISM TO NEGATIVE HEALTH OUTCOMES. WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROSPERITY INSTITUTES REPORT, THE RACIAL WEALTH DIVIDE IN AUSTIN WITH STATES THAT DESPITE ALL RACIAL GROUPS FAIRING BETTER THAN THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTERPARTS NATIONALLY, WE FIND THAT BLACK AND LATINO HOUSEHOLDS STILL FACED A LARGE MEASURE OF RACIAL ECONOMIC INEQUALITY IN AUSTIN, TEXAS IN 1980, BLACKS MADE ABOUT 71% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME OF WHITES AND LATINOS MADE 82% OF THE WHITE MEDIAN INCOME, BLACK AND LATINO MEDIAN INCOME. AND AUSTIN DECLINED COMPARED TO THAT OF WHITES. SO BY 2016, BLACKS MAY ONLY MAKE 55% OF WHITE MEDIAN INCOME AND LATINOS MADE 61% OF WHITE MEETING INCOME. I WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO THAT FEELING OF BREATHLESSNESS, BREATHLESSNESS OF LOSS, OF ANXIETY ABOUT THE FUTURE AND YOUR PLACE IN IT. THIS IS A FEELING THAT THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN KNOWS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER AS A MUSIC COMMUNITY. WE RESPONDED QUICKLY TO FIND EMERGENCY FUNDS FOR MUSICIANS EFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC, BUT THE TRAUMATIC AND DESTRUCTIVE VIRUS OF RACISM AND WHITE SUPREMACY HAS YET TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH POLICY OR FUNDING IN THE MUSIC SECTOR. IF THE CITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT LOSING VENUES AND BUSINESSES, BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE FUTURE OF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL, THEN THAT SAME ENERGY NEEDS TO BE HELD FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT BUILT SO MUCH OF ITS WEALTH. WE FOUND $5 MILLION FOR VENUES. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT WILL BE FOUND FOR BLACK MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN? WHAT WILL BE FOUND [00:55:01] FOR OTHER HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES OF COLOR? THERE IS NO AUSTIN WITHOUT US WAS THE STATEMENT I SHARED VIA SOCIAL MEDIA IN JUNE WHEN I ASKED THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP. SO A LOT 50% OF THE 1.5 MILLION FOR THE NEEDS OF BLACK MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN VIA A BLACK LIVE MUSIC. THIS STATEMENT MEANT SIMPLY THAT THE PREDOMINANT JOHN WAS PLAYED 24 HOURS A DAY AND SEVEN DAYS A WEEK IN AUSTIN, ROCK BLUES COUNTRY, JAZZ FUNK, GOSPEL HOUSE EDM, AND HIP HOP, ALL DERIVED FROM BLACK PEOPLE. WE, THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN ESSENTIAL WORKERS, ESSENTIAL CREATORS, ESSENTIAL FEW ESSENTIAL INSPIRATION AND ESSENTIAL PROVIDERS DURING AUSTIN'S BOOM AND SUBSEQUENT RECOGNITION GLOBALLY AS A CENTER FOR MUSIC, BUT HAVE REMAINED AT THE MARGINS OF BENEFITING FROM THIS BOOM ICONIC INSTITUTIONS LIKE ACL AND SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST SAW THE BOATS RAISED FOR DECADES BY THE DRAMATIC TIDAL WAVE OF INCREASED AWARENESS AND CONSUMPTION OF AUSTIN'S UNIQUE CULTURE WORLDWIDE ALL WHILE BY AND LARGE IGNORING THE BLACK COMMUNITY CULTURE AND GENIUS THAT MADE THEIR BUSINESS MODELS CLASSROOM. THERE'S NO SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST WITH DOLLARS. THERE WAS NO ACL WITHOUT US, EITHER MORE THAN 90% OF THE GENRES ON DISPLAY AT THESE ANNUAL EVENTS COME FROM BLACK PEOPLE. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE GENRE OF MUSIC ON THE MAINSTREAM BILLBOARD CHARTS WITHOUT US. THIS IS NOT DEBATABLE, BUT WHERE IS THE BENEFIT FROM ALL THIS WEALTH GENERATION? IF NONE OF THESE JOBS WERE EVER CREATED WITH ANY OF THESE MUSIC VENUES OR EVENTS BE POSSIBLE, COULD WE EVEN TALK ABOUT A LOT OF MUSIC, CAPITAL THE PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS CAN'T POSSIBLY BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE PEOPLE CAN. THEY, THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ON THE TABLE TODAY. IF THE CITY UNDERSTANDS THAT VENUES MUST BE PRESERVED, CERTAINLY THEY CAN TAKE THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CULTURE UPON WHICH THESE VENUES PROFITS WERE BUILT MUST BE PRESERVED AS WELL. IF WE FOUND 5 MILLION FOR VENUES, WHAT WOULD WE FIND FOR THE HISTORICALLY NEGLECTED AND DISENFRANCHISED COMMUNITIES OF AUSTIN? WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO COMMIT TO MAKE EQUITY REAL? AND REFORMS WILL BUST. I SUGGEST TODAY OCTOBER, 1920 18, THAT WE FIND A WAY FORWARD WITH AN ANNUAL INVESTMENT OF 50% OF HOT TECH FUNDS INTO PI FUNDING FOR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES. PI STANDS FOR PRESERVATION INNOVATION AND ELEVATION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, I PERSONALLY RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF FEEDBACK AND INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY VIA MUSIC, COMMISSION MEETINGS, ZOOM CALLS, EMAILS, AND ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS. THE NEEDS THAT I HAVE HEARD EXPRESSED FIT INTO THESE CATEGORIES WHEN I HEAR LEADERS LIKE ANIMOSA YEAH, I'LL SPEAK ABOUT THE LEGACY OF TAHANA MUSIC OR HELL MCMILLAN REMINDING US OF THE FAILED SOCIAL CONTRACTS INVOLVED IN BUILDING A CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT FOR BLACK CULTURE. I THINK ABOUT FUNDS FOR PRESERVATION PRESERVATION IS NECESSARY SO THAT WE NEVER LOSE OUR CULTURAL FOUNDATIONS. THE CITY CAN PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO ENSURE THAT THE LEGACIES OF HISTORICALLY UNDERFUNDED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES WILL BE PRESERVED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING FUNDINGS FOR THE HISTORY TO BE TAUGHT IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH EVENTS OR FOR CULTURAL TRADITIONS TO BE PASSED OFF TO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS OR FOR INFRASTRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS AND BUILDINGS, PRESERVATION NEEDS TO TOURISM BECAUSE IT DEVELOPS PLACEMAKING OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES THAT COULD BE PROMOTED AND EXPERIENCED YEAR ROUND SPEAKING WITH BIPAP MUSICIANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY CREATING AND DEVELOPING THEIR CAREERS IN AUSTIN ISSUES CENTERED AROUND ACCESS MARGINALIZATION, TOKENISM, AND A GENERAL LACK OF VISIBILITY DUE TO THE CURRENT BIAS OF VENUES, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, TALENT BUYERS, ET CETERA. AS WE WITNESSED MANY OF THE TRADITIONAL MODELS THAT UPHELD THESE BIASES, WANING AND STRUGGLING TO MAINTAIN RELEVANCE, THE CHALLENGES CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH A FOCUS ON INNOVATION, INNOVATION MODELS FOR FUNDING NEED TO GO TO ORGANIZATIONS, ARTISTS, AND BUSINESSES WITH VISIONS, FOR WHAT THE FUTURE CAN LOOK LIKE FOR HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN. IT IS CRITICAL THAT MONEY BE IN THE HANDS OF THOSE MOST EFFECTED BY RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND THAT THEY BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CARVE OUT THEIR FUTURE WITH SUPPORT FROM THE CITY. THE FUTURE OF AUSTIN'S MUSIC SCENE IS INEXTRICABLY LINKED WITH HIS ABILITY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ITS MOST MARGINALIZED MEMBERS. TOURISM WILL INEVITABLY GROW AS A RESULT DUE TO THE FACT THAT INNOVATION CREATES NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ONLINE AND PUBLIC SPACES THAT WILL BUILD NEW AUDIENCES PREVIOUSLY UNTAPPED BY TRADITIONAL APPROACHES OF THE PAST ELEVATION MEANS RAISING SOMETHING. IF THEY'RE HISTORIC AND CURRENT CONTRIBUTIONS OF BIPAP MUSICIANS ARE SYSTEMICALLY ERASED, BLURRED TRANSFIGURED, AND GENERALLY COMPROMISED. THE FUTURE CAN ONLY BE ALTERED THROUGH JASICK CHANGE IN THE ELEVATION OF THESE GROUPS, CITY FUNDING APPLIED TO ELEVATION TO BUILD PATHWAYS BETWEEN TOURISM LEADERSHIP, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, LARGE-SCALE PROMOTERS AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, MUCH MORE CAN BE DONE WITH THE ALREADY EXISTING INDUSTRY INFRASTRUCTURE TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE MUSIC AND CULTURE COMING FROM UNDER REPRESENTED GROUPS IN JARAS FUNDING FOR ELEVATION CAN BE PROVIDED TO, TO, TO BIPAP LED ORGANIZATIONS AND LEADERS THAT HAVE IDEAS FOR BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LEADS TO GREATER, GREATER AWARENESS OF THE VIBRANT BIPAP [01:00:01] MUSIC SCENE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. THE GOAL OF ELEVATION IS TO MOVE THESE GROUPS FROM UNDERREPRESENTED REPRESENTATION, UNDER REPRESENTATION TO EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION AND OPPORTUNITY ACROSS ALL AREAS OF THE MUSIC SECTOR. WHILE A RISING TIDE ECONOMY DOES CREATE MORE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND AN ABSOLUTE ABSOLUTE SENSE GROWTH IN AND OF ITSELF DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY BENEFIT THE POOR OR REDUCE ECONOMIC DISPARITIES AMONGST HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED GROUPS. ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS FURTHER TO SECURE OUR ECONOMIC FUTURE, WE NEED TO BEGIN DEVELOPING A ROBUST ECONOMIC GROWTH AGENDA THAT INCORPORATES EQUITY AND ACHIEVES EQUITABLE OUTCOMES, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR, AND ELEVATING THOSE MOST DISENFRANCHISED AND OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY ACTUALLY CREATES MORE TOURISM AND ECONOMIC GROWTH. THE FUTURE OF THE MUSIC SECTOR DEPENDS ON INTEGRATING EVERYONE ACCORDING TO RESEARCH FROM RE-IMAGINED RACE POVERTY AND THE ENVIRONMENT, A JOURNAL OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL JUSTICE, A SUPERIOR GROWTH MODEL BASED ON EQUITY WILL GROW NEW OPPORTUNITIES IN BOTH THE LONGTERM CONFESS COMPETITIVENESS WHILE ENSURING THAT ALL ESPECIALLY LOW INCOME AND PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP CREATE AND BENEFIT FROM THAT GROWTH. THE NATION IS UNDERGOING A MAJOR DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSFORMATION IN WHICH RACIAL AND ETHNIC GROUPS EXCLUDED IN THE PAST ARE BECOMING A LARGER PORTION OF THE POPULATION. NEW GROWTH MODELS MUST EMBRACE THESE NEW DEMOGRAPHICS AND MAKE THE NECESSARY INVESTMENT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO REACH ITS FULL POTENTIAL PULLING FROM THE STATE ADMISSION OF THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP, TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK FOR THE EFFECTIVE USE OF HOT HOTEL OCCUPANCY C HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS AS A PRO AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMERCIAL MUSIC SECTOR, THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF AUSTIN, MUSICIANS, MUSIC, VENUES, AND MUSIC, TERRORISM THROUGH SUSTAINABLE INVESTMENT. WE MUST SEE DRAMATIC EQUITY POLICY AND FUND ALLOCATION AS A NECESSARY INVESTMENT FOR GROWTH. I SUGGEST TODAY THAT WE CHARGE THE MUSIC COMMISSIONS, NEWLY FORMED SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DETERMINING HOW POD FUNDING POOL FROM HOT TAX FUNDS CAN BEST BE MANAGED AND ALLOCATED TO CREATE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COMMERCIAL MUSIC CENTER SECTOR. THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP SEEKS TO ADDRESS STRUCTURAL INEQUITY AND RACIAL INEQUALITY AND AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY TO PUBLIC DISCOURSE, DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDING AND POLICY CHANGE BY EXAMINING THE DEVELOPMENT OF AUSTIN'S MUSIC ECONOMY THROUGH THE LENS OF RACE IN THE HISTORIC LACK OF SUPPORT FOR OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WE INTEND TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE JET, TO PROTECT REPAIR AND BUILD A MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE MUSIC SCENE. THIS COMMITTEE, HIS RESOLVE TO DIVE DEEPLY INTO THE VARIOUS WAYS THAT RACE SHAPES POLICY, THE COMMUNITY AT ALL LEVELS OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC, INDUSTRY VENUES, NONPROFITS, FESTIVALS, ET CETERA. SO IN TERMS OF PRESERVATION, WHEN I TALK ABOUT, UM, FUNDING, A FUNDING MODEL THAT PRIORITIZE PRESERVATION INNOVATION AND ELEVATION, I BELIEVE THAT 30%, WHATEVER FUNDING IS PULLED FOR THAT, FOR THAT FUND FOR AN EQUITY FUND, 30% OF THAT SHOULD GO TO THEM PRESERVATION. AND I'VE WRITTEN A BIT ABOUT THAT INVESTMENT IN THE HISTORIC CULTURAL HERITAGE OF BOSTON MUSIC. WE HAVE FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS BIPAP, LED ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS COMMITTED TO PRESERVATION OF THE TRADITIONS AND LEGACY OF HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THROUGH EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND PRESENTATIONS THAT PASS THE LEGACY TO NEW GENERATIONS DEVELOPMENT OF CULTURAL HERITAGE, DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURES, SUPPORT OF PUBLIC CULTURAL ARTS SPACES, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, PUBLIC EVENTS THAT CELEBRATE BIPAP SOCIAL HERITAGE IN REGARDS TO INNOVATION, WHICH WILL BE ANOTHER 30% OF FUNDING, UM, INVESTMENT IN THE INNOVATION OF TRADITIONAL BUSINESS MODELS THAT HAVE EXCLUDED BACKPACK COMMUNITIES VIA FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS BIPAP, LED ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS COMMITTED TO INNOVATIVE AND INCLUSIVE PRACTICES THAT BUILD CAPACITY AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THROUGH THE INCORPORATION OF NEW MEDIA PLATFORMS, TECHNOLOGY THAT DEVELOPED THE CAPACITY OF HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND GENRES, THE DEVELOPMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EMPOWERS THE CREATION AND DEVELOPMENT OF TECH BASED BUSINESS MODELS THAT DIRECTLY SERVE THOSE MOST IMPACTED BY SYSTEMIC RACISM, FINAL PIECE ELEVATION, WHICH IS DEALING WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION. THE CURRENT ARTISTS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE MAKING WAVES HERE IN AUSTIN. I SUGGEST THAT WE INVEST THE MOST, WHICH WOULD BE 40% INVESTMENT IN THE ELEVATION EDUCATION AND PROMOTION OF AUSTIN MUSIC VIA FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS PRESENT BIPAP LATER, ORGANIZATION, TALENT AND MUSICIANS FROM HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH ESTABLISHED GLOBAL AND NATIONAL MUSIC BRANDS. I E SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST ACL TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BACKPACK, AWESOME TIME, SMALL BUSINESS AND ENTREPRENEURIAL DEVELOPMENT VIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, LARGE AND SMALL SCALE PUBLIC EVENTS THAT SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT BIPAP AUSTIN TALENT. WE HAVE FUNDING THAT'S THAT'S, UH, SCALES, CURRENT SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS, C FUNDING, THE INCUBATOR NUANCE EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON OVERCOMING THE CHALLENGES FACED BY BACKPACK ARTISTS IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC SECTOR. NUMBER DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS, EQUITABLE ECONOMIC [01:05:01] RESILIENCY FRAMEWORK SETS A HISTORIC PRECEDENT FOR A FUNDING MODEL THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO HOT TAX FUNDING USING THE LENS OF RACE WITH PRIORITY GIVEN TO THE MOST ECONOMICALLY VULNERABLE ADULTS CANS FOR CULTURAL ARTS FUNDING UNDER THIS MODEL, 100% OF FUNDING IS GUARANTEED TO THOSE IMPACTED BY SYSTEMIC RACISM. I BELIEVE THIS APPROACH CAN BE USED AS A MODEL BY THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP TO DETERMINE HOW HOT TECH FUNDS CAN BE USED TO CREATE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES IN AUSTIN MUSIC. I WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH A FEW PRINCIPLES TO LEAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT AUSTIN'S FUTURE INTO THE 2021 AND BEYOND RACIAL EQUITY IS THE CONDITION WHEN RACE NO LONGER PREDICTS A PERSON'S QUALITY OF LIFE OUTCOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY AS SUCH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS RECOGNIZED THAT RACE IS THE PRIMARY DETERMINANT OF SOCIAL EQUITY. MOVING THIS DEFINITION INTO THE MUSIC SECTOR, RACE IS A PRIMARY DETERMINANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF BIPAP MUSICIANS IN ORGANIZATIONS WE CAN'T AFFORD TO REMAIN IN THE REALM OF AWARENESS ANY LONGER IT'S TIME TO ACT AND SEE THE LEADERSHIP MUST PRIORITIZE EQUITY WITH THE SAME ENERGY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO SAVING VENUES AND PROVIDING EMERGENCY FUNDING TO THOSE AFFECTED BY COVID NINE, 13. WE MOVED ON THOSE THINGS RELATIVELY QUICKLY, BUT HAVE LEFT EQUITY ON THE TABLE FOR JENNA RELATIONS. LET'S REMEMBER THAT OUR CITY BUDGET IS A MORAL DOCUMENT AND THAT THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION IS ONE THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD. IF WE INTEND TO SEE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE, AUSTIN BRANDS ITSELF AS A PROGRESSIVE DESTINATION. SEE, AND THIS IS WHAT PROGRESS LOOKS LIKE IN 2020. IT'S NOT ABOUT THEORY AND TRENDING TAGLINES. IT'S ABOUT RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND ECONOMIC RE DISTRICT FUSION. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR THOUGHTFUL PRESENTATION. IS THAT AVAILABLE FOR US? CAN YOU START OUT? I AM TRYING TO FIND, I HAVE A, A DOCUMENT. HOW DO I DO THE CHAT HERE? WHAT IS, HOW DO I DO A CHAT? IT MIGHT JUST BE EASIER TO PUT IT IN DROP AN EMAIL AFTER THE MEETING TONIGHT. OH, OKAY. WELL, I WANTED TO SEND YOU GUYS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT? LIKE, YEAH. SO THERE'S NO CHAT FEATURE. THIS IS KIM, THEN THERE'S NOT A CHAT FEATURE ON THIS, A NEW WEBEX, UH, UH, UH, WHAT IS IT CALLED? WEBEX EVENTS. I'LL DEFINITELY SEND IT OUT. I WANTED YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT KIND OF THE, UH, THE PIE CONCEPT WITH PRESERVATION INNOVATION, BUT I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING OR IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I ONLY HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT I FELT LIKE I COULDN'T SUPPORT. I FELT LIKE WE COULD MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY ON THIS. IT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN TYING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SINCE THE, UH, SINCE TOP OF THE YEAR REALLY ARE CLOSE TO, UM, MY, MY, MY ONLY MAIN THOUGHT, UH, IS THE TYING IT DIRECTLY TO THE HOT TAX ONE. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF THAT MONEY IS THERE AND IT'S ON THE TABLE IT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR MUSIC. SO, UM, UH, SO I ASKED HIM FOR THE MIND THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. I, I SEE THAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT PANNING BECAUSE THAT IS SO SUCH A VOLATILE, UM, SOURCE OF FUNDING. AND IN A YEARS WHERE THE NEED WILL BE GREATEST, THE FUNDING WILL BE LEASED. UM, IF THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO ADD LANGUAGE FROM HOB STORMS OR OTHER SOURCES, OR JUST LEAVE IT OPEN TO OTHER SOURCES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE STABLE. SO, UH, BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE GIVING HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE ARE ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS IF WE PUT THAT IN THERE, IT JUST LEAVES IT A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE. UM, AND, BUT I W WE'RE NOT MEETING FOR ANOTHER MONTH AND YOU'RE, I MEAN, IT WAS, UH, AN IN DEPTH SPEECH, BUT THE PRINCIPLES I THINK ARE FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, UH, TO TAKE THE LIVE MUSIC, UH, HOPS ON, IT'S NOT ALL THE HOPS ONES, BUT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC ALL THE HOT GUNS, PUT IT ON HALF. AND THAT HALF GOES TO PIE, UH, BIPAP, UH, CREATIVE EQUITY FUND, ESSENTIALLY. AND ON THOSE [01:10:01] 30, 30, 48 LINES, THAT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. LIKE WE COULD DO, I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE FEELING, BUT I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T ADD THAT TO OUR HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. PEOPLE FOR NOTHING. I DON'T SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BLOCK THIS AND I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK ACTION TONIGHT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER MONTH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TACK ON TO WHAT GRAHAM WAS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN SOME IN YEARS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE FUND IS SMALLEST, THE NEED IS GREATEST. UM, AND WE, I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE FUND SHRINK SOMEWHAT WITH COVID THAT, UM, ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD ALSO PAY TO WITH THE CITY HAS HELPED TO PURSUE, PURSUE PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY. SO I I'M, I'M GOING TO BRING THAT WITH THE 50%. UM, I HAVE JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY HELP US, UM, OR HELP, YOU KNOW, HELP HELP US PURSUE THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES OR HELP THIS ADVISORY WORK, PURSUED THOSE ADDITIONAL FUNDING SOURCES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN JUST GROW THROUGHOUT THIS POT OF MONEY. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, THAT I'M IN BROKEN RECORD A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S GENDER DISCRIMINATION IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY IS A, IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE, I THINK IS VERY CLEAR. UM, ADDITIONALLY, CLAIRE PROBLEM, BUT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY TAKE AWAY FROM THIS FUND TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND ON WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE AND CONSIDER ADDRESSING GENDER AND EQUITY MUSIC WITH A DIFFERENT, UM, WITH A DIFFERENT EFFORT. YEAH. I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THAT. I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOES SEEM THAT, UM, I'M NOT A MUSICIAN, AS I ALWAYS SAY THAT WOMEN ARE, I WOULD SAY ARE AN UNDERSERVED GROUP IN, IN MUSIC. AND COULD YOU SET BOOST AS WELL? I SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING INTO THE SUPERIOR GROWTH MODEL. YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH AROUND THE FACT THAT THEN WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, UH, LIFT UP AND YOU PROVIDE RESOURCES AS THE MOST IMPACTED THE MOST IMPACTED GROUPS AND EVERYBODY BENEFITS. UM, AND SO, LIKE, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I'M ENCOURAGING US TO THINK ABOUT IN THE SHORT TIME, AT LEAST, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU, UH, SUPPORT AND PUT RESOURCES INTO THE FOLKS THAT ARE MOST IMPACTED, UM, THEN YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER DISENFRANCHISED GROUPS AUTOMATICALLY BENEFIT. I ALSO JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT. WE'LL BE MEETING AGAIN ON THE FIRST MONDAY IN NOVEMBER, TENTATIVELY, AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE MONTHLY MODEL, UM, WE HAVE, UH, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSING THAT, BUT SCHEDULE AFTER THIS, UM, JUST TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT THERE TO EVERYBODY GIVEN THAT NOVEMBER WAS OUR BEGINNING, I THINK BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER WAS OUR HOPEFUL GOAL. AND WE'VE ALREADY GIVEN THOSE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK THIS GOES WELL TO DO IMMEDIATELY. AT LEAST IF THIS VERY SIMPLE HIGH LEVEL, WE CAN ALWAYS FLESH IT OUT MORE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE TONIGHT. UM, SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, AS I SAID, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UM, IS REALLY KIND OF CHARGED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE THE GROUP IS GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH UNDOING RACISM, WORKSHOP, SOME MEMBERS OF THE GROUP GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH THAT. AND WE'VE BEEN JUST STARTING ON OUR UNDERSTANDING OF RACISM AND THE ROLE OF PLACE SOCIALLY, ET CETERA. UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE OUR CHARGE? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE? YOU WANT TO KNOW? I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE, AT THE SAME WAY WE PUT, YOU KNOW, WE CREATED A LIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP. WE HAVE A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING WITH REALLY CHARGED THEM WITH THE CALLING THIS CONCEPT. SO WOULD YOU BE FOR DOING A SIMPLE HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATION THAT WE COULD GIVE TO SYNOVIA AND THE STAFF TONIGHT AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT? THAT'S THE IDEA? THAT'S THE IDEA. YEAH. OKAY. WELL THEN I WOULD MOTION THAT WE, UH, RECOMMEND THAT HALF OF THE MUSIC HOP GUNS THOUGH, TO A PI BASED BIPAP FOCUSED CREATIVE EQUITY FUND HAS THE MODEL GOING FORWARD WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE WOULD LIKE ALTERNATIVE FUNDS THAT ARE MORE STABLE AND ROBUST TO BE LOOKED INTO. I SECOND, THAT THERE'S ONE THING. OKAY. THERE'S ONE THING, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE, THAT YOU PUT PUTTING A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS, BUT YOU SAID [01:15:01] CHOCOLATE. THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE RACE IS NO LONGER THE DETERMINING FACTOR OF WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE'S SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. CAN WE COME UP WITH WAYS OF SHOWING WHAT THAT NUMBER IS? SO WE CAN SHOW THAT THE INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING WITH THIS 50% OF PIE IS ACTUALLY MOVING THE NEEDLE. AND THAT I THINK SO NOVIA, PRIVATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY HAS SOME THINGS IN PLACE JUST FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS FUNDING AND HOW THEY'RE DETERMINING WHETHER WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS WORKING OR NOT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE KIND OF FOLLOW BEHIND THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. SO NO, BUT DO YOU HAVE SOME SAY ON THAT? UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY CONTINUE, UH, WORKING ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE REMEMBER WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLEMENTING EACH HOT DIVISION TO LEVERAGE AND SELL. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME BASIC COMMONALITIES, BUT EXECUTE IT DIFFERENTLY. SO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, SOME WORK WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO COME BACK TO SAY, OR TO THE BOARD TO SAY, NOW THESE ARE OUR MEASURES. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, WE TRACK ROI ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW? UM, DID YOU INCREASE YOUR, UH, I DON'T KNOW, THE ERICA MAY KILL ME WHEN I SAID, UM, DID YOU INCREASE YOUR BRAND PRESENCE? HOW MANY MORE SONGS WERE DOWNLOADED, UM, HOW MUCH MORE REVENUE THAT YOU GENERATE, OR IF YOU'RE INTO THE SOUND SIDE, YOU KNOW, YOUR SOUND ENGINEER WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND YOUR CONTRACTS. I DON'T KNOW. JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO SAY, I KNOW THIS IS MOVEMENT. I KNOW THAT THIS WORKS, IT WORKS. I CAN USE MYSELF AS A PERSONAL EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY USE MONEY FROM CITY CITY FUNDING, AND IT'S HELPED ME TO DEVELOP MYSELF AS A BUSINESS, WHICH HAS DEFINITELY CREATED OPPORTUNITIES FOR OVER 200 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR THAT WE CONTRACT OUT WITH, FROM GRAPHIC DESIGNERS TO VIDEOGRAPHERS, 80% OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE FOLKS OF COLOR. I THINK 60% OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE BLACK. UM, SO I CAN SAY LIKE, FOR ME, WHEN YOU INVEST IN SOMEBODY LIKE ME, UM, YOU'RE INVESTING IN, IN A LARGER COMMUNITY. AND SO, UM, THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES OUT THERE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT IN JACKIE VINSON ON STAGES IN 2014 AND CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL TYPES OF, YOU KNOW, BLACK QUEER ARTISTS OR YOU NAME IT. UM, THERE WAS NO, IT WAS DIVERSE, YOU KNOW, EVERY LATINO, EVERYBODY, UM, VERY DIVERSE SITUATION, BIPAP, UM, COMMUNITY, BUILDING THAT COMMUNITY AND HELPING PEOPLE GROW AND DEVELOP. SO, UM, THAT'S LIKE A MICROCOSM OF WHAT I FELT LIKE THE CITY SHOULD REALLY BE, UM, INTENTIONALLY, UM, FINDING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AND, AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMUNITY CAN BE STRONGER AND IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL, BUT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKING THAT A PERSONAL NOTE, BECAUSE I CAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THAT I'VE RECEIVED HAS ALLOWED ME TO EXPAND THE WORK THAT I'M DOING AND THEREFORE, UM, SUPPORT, UM, A LARGER COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. AND WE CALL THAT THE RIM EFFECT. SO IF YOU READ OUR LAST, UM, CREATIVE ECONOMIC STUDY, IT TALKS ABOUT THE RIM OF THAT. SO PAYING ARTISTS, BUT YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNTANT, YOU HAVE A GRAPHIC, SO ALL OF THAT IS YOUR ROI. AND SO, YES, WE HAVE, WE USUALLY DO A STUDY EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT WE COULD POSSIBLY, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT IN A FUTURE CONTRACT. SO WE TRACK THE RIM EFFECT. WHO ARE YOU EMPLOYING? UM, I'M SORRY TO JUMP IN AVERAGES FEMINISTS SAY, UM, IF WE CAN, IF WE CONTINUE TO DESEGREGATE THE DATA BY RACE, UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THE DISPARITY WE'LL KNOW THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO COLLECT THE DATA, UM, AS YOU DO THE WORK. AND SO I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. UM, I THINK IT WAS ORRIN THAT SAID THAT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME METRICS IN PLACE THAT REALLY, UM, HELP US UNDERSTAND, CAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEW. UM, AND IF WE INTERVENE AT ONE POINT BECAUSE OF THE THEORY OF, UM, COMPLEX ADAPTIVE SYSTEMS, A LOT OF TIMES OUR SYSTEMS WANT TO, UH, CORRECT FOR THE INTERVENTION AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE THE STATUS QUO IF WE JUST CHANGE LITTLE THINGS. AND SO IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING, UM, USUALLY PRETTY DRAMATIC, BUT STRATEGIC. AND, UM, AND THEN WE CAN SORT OF SEE HOW THE OUTCOME SHIFT AND A LOT THAT SOUNDS, WE WANT TO START WITH WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, [01:20:01] RIGHT. AND THEN WORK OUR WAY BACKWARDS IN THE LOGIC MODEL. SO, UM, SUPER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, COLLECTING THAT DATA SO WE CAN DESEGREGATE. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE SHOULD MAKE IS THAT THE CITY TRIED TO F I MEAN THE SAME WAY THAT THEY FOUND MONEY FOR VENUES, THAT TO TRY TO FIND SOME MONEY TO, TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN SOONER THAN LATER. UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. CORRECT. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A, UH, A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANYTHING ELSE? YES. WE PUT TO A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. SHOCKING. THANK Y'ALL. CAN YOU MAKE SURE STAFF GETS THAT ENTIRE DOCUMENT? YES. THANK YOU. UM, ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE MEETING ENDS AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I THINK MOBILEY HAD A GOOD IDEA THERE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, A CENSUS TYPE OF THING IS IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT I WOULD MOTION THAT WE SPEARHEAD THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEY COME UP WITH THAT, UM, WE TAKE THE HOME, UH, CREATE A PLACE FOR IT AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DISSEMINATE IT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EITHER RICK OR SO NOVI OR KIM OR SOMEONE LIKE, DOES THAT CREATE WORK FOR STAFF ON KNOWINGLY? OR LIKE, CAN WE TAKE THAT ON AND PUT THE COMMISSION'S NAME ON THAT? OR IS THAT, HOW DOES THAT EXACTLY? WELL, OUR LAST CENSUS COST US. YEAH. I'M THINKING, I'M THINKING OF JUST MORE OF A, A PLACE, UH, LIKE A PLACE HOLDER. I THINK THAT'S WHAT, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH MOBILEY, BUT I THINK HE WAS JUST SAYING A PLACE WHERE THE DOCUMENT CAN BE FOUND. IT CAN BE DOWNLOADED. UM, JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UH, WE COLLECTED BASICALLY, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS A MEASURE. AUSTIN IS GOING TO HELP TO SOUND LIKE HE HAS A MEASURE AUSTIN AS, YOU KNOW, DATA AGGREGATOR AND WHATEVER THAT WORD IS THAT I'M NOT FINDING. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST, UH, I THINK WE'VE BECOME A PLACE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TAKING THIS ON AS LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME AND DOWNLOAD IT. SURE. YEAH. SO, SO LET, LET, LET US, LET US TAKE THAT BACK AND CIRCLE BACK WITH THE WORKING GROUP AND THE CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS. AND WE CAN COME BACK. I'M GETTING COMMENTS THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE. MAYBE, MAYBE PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MINUTE, AND THEN, YEAH. WELL, WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THIS? YOU ALREADY MOTIONED FOR IT SORT OF CASUALLY, BUT THE, UH, UH, THAT WE REQUEST THAT STAFF LOOKS INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, WORKING WITH MOBILEY AND MEASURE AND MEASURE AUSTIN, UM, A COMMUNITY SURVEY. I WAS ABSOLUTELY. WHY NOT? NOBODY IS ON THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS. I MEAN, TOMORROW'S MEETING. SO I THINK THAT THE SURVEY AND BEING ABLE TO GET SOME KIND OF METRICS TO WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE AND WHAT MEASURES WE NEED TO TAKE AND RESOURCE ALLOCATION ARE REALLY GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL FOR GETTING THIS THING TO REALLY IMPACT PEOPLE. AND SO I THINK THAT REALLY, THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE WORK OF THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP. OKAY. AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND WE GOING TO HAVE THE POWER WITHIN THE CITY PROCUREMENT POLICY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S ENOUGH, BUT I'M SAYING I HAVE A CITY PROCUREMENT POLICY. I HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM WHEN ACQUIRE, SEE IF IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT NOT BE A FIT. WE'LL SEE. I'M WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO COME BACK. AND IF I SAY LIKE, WELL, SO NOW I HAVE TO MADISON IT'S OKAY. WELL, IF IT HELPS TO, FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I'M HAPPY TO SECOND AND TIP IT TO SOME, MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND IT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD EITHER WAY AND WE CAN, BUT WHAT YOU RUN WITH IT STILL, NOBODY VIA WHATEVER YOU THINK IS HELPFUL. WHERE ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. SO I REMEMBER FILLING OUT A SURVEY, I BELIEVE HAM PUT IT OUT, UM, WITH SIMS, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC ABOUT JOB LOSS WITH MUSICIANS AND MENTAL HEALTH. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, UM, HOPEFULLY PAIR UP WITH, I BELIEVE IT WAS HAM, UM, ON THOSE RESULTS. CAUSE IT'D BE GREAT [01:25:01] TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, SEVEN MONTHS IN. UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S JUST, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SURVEY ALREADY OUT THERE CIRCULATING WITH METRICS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THIS. YEAH. THAT MAKES SENSE. IF, IF THERE'S OTHER EFFORTS OUT THERE WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL OR MAYBE WE JOIN WITH THEM OR USE SOME OF THEIR DATA IF POSSIBLE. UM, SO I MEAN I'M, IF WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST HAVE A, IF YOU WANT A SECOND, THAT GRANT, WE CONSIDERED THAT JUST, UM, A RESOLUTION TO DISCUSS AND EXPLORE VERSUS GOING FULL ON FORWARD. I'M I'M COMPLETELY GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. SO IN THAT CASE, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, DO THE STAFF NEED US TO, TO RESTATE THE MOTION? ANYBODY WANT TO TAKE A SHOT AT IT? GRAB SO GOOD AT IT, MAN. I SAY GRANDDAD, UH, WE REQUEST THE STAFF, EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE AWESOME COMMISSION, WORKING WITH MOBILY AND MEASURE AUSTIN ON A COMMUNITY SURVEY. GREAT. THAT'S THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE SECONDS SECOND FROM STEWART, ALL IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED. I CURIOUS AS WELL. FANTASTIC. SO THAT WE HAVE ONE, UM, NEW BUSINESS [3. NEW BUSINESS a.Discussion and Possible Action on 2021 Music Commission meeting schedule.] ITEM IS LISTED AS FEATURED AGENDA ITEM ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NEW BUSINESS. SO IT'D BE WHAT, THAT WOULD BE THREE, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON 2021 MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE. DO YOU HAVE A PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR US? KIM? WE GOT AN EMAIL AS A DOCUMENT. IT'S ONE OF THE ATTACHMENTS. OH, OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION AROUND THE SCHEDULE THEN? I THINK I MISSED THAT. AND SOMEONE JUST READ OFF THE DATES. THE ATTACHMENT IS ON THE KIM'S EMAIL. IT SAYS FINAL AGENDA AND OTHER DOCS. UH, IT STARTS WITH JANUARY FOUR. IT GOES TO FEBRUARY ONE, MARCH ONE, APRIL 5TH, MAY 3RD, JUNE 7TH, JULY 12TH. I GOT A SECOND SEPTEMBER 13TH. I'VE COVER FOR NOVEMBER 1ST AND DECEMBER 6TH. IT'S BASICALLY FIRST, MONDAY OF EVERY MONTH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LIKE JULY 4TH WEEK AND SEPTEMBER LABOR DAY OR WHATEVER IT IS IN SEPTEMBER. OKAY. I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THAT. I MEAN, WELL, WE CAN ADDRESS ANY COBIT SCHEDULE CHANGES AS THEY COME UP. I WOULD THINK, YEAH, REAL QUICK. WHAT WAS THAT KIM? SO ONE THING I'M STEPHANIE AND I WERE LOOKING OVER THE CALENDAR AND SHE POINTED OUT THAT THE FIRST WEEKEND OF ACL FESTIVAL IS OCTOBER 1ST. AND SO THAT OCTOBER 4TH IS THE MONDAY AFTER THAT FIRST WEEKEND. AND WE JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO YOU GUYS TO SEE IF THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE TO YOU. IF THEY, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY THEY'VE GONE TO TWO WEEKENDS AND SO IT WOULD HAVE THE SAME CONFLICT THE NEXT WEEK, IF THAT WAS THE CASE. UM, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE HAVE TO MOVE, MOVE IT TO THE THIRD WEEK. UM, I WOULD JUST AS SOON JUST KEEP THE FIRST MONDAY IF THAT'S YES. YUP. OKAY, GREAT. FANTASTIC. THEN DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE AND SECOND SUCH AND SECOND. COOL. ALL IN FAVOR, ALL CLOSED. LET ME SCHEDULE IS, IS APPROVED. UM, SO NOW WE HAVE FEATURE [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO GET THE NEXT AGENDA? GREAT TO GET, UM, EITHER REBECCA REYNOLDS, UH, IN HERE OR, UH, CODY COWAN FROM RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, VENUES. UM, CAUSE I KNOW THE LAST SURVEY WAS THAT AT THE END OF OCTOBER, WE WERE GOING TO LOSE ABOUT 90% UP TO 90%. IF FUNDING WASN'T AVAILABLE, FUNDING IS AVAILABLE AND SONOVA SYNOVIA. YOU WANT JAPAN? YES. [01:30:01] SO ON LAST THURSDAY COUNTS UP CREW WHAT WAS CALLED THE SAGE RESOLUTION. AND SO THEY PASS THAT LINES RELATED TO THE AUSTIN LINE MUSIC PRESERVATION FUND. SO I'LL SEND THAT LINK OUT TO KIM, BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE CODY AND REBECCA AND WEEKEND. DEFINITELY. UM, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOME ENHANCED GUIDELINES AROUND THE LEGACY BUSINESS, BUT IF YOU WANT US TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT IT, LET US KNOW, BUT THEY'D PASS THE 5 MILLION FOR THE LIVE MUSIC PRESERVATION FUND, AS WELL AS THE LEGACY BUSINESS WITH GRANT AND CHILDCARE, JUST FYI, THE LEGACY ASPECT THAT IS YET TO BE DETERMINED WHAT THOSE CRITERIA ARE. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WE HAVE TO TAKE ENHANCE THAT LINES BACK FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE COMMITTEE. DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'LL, IS THERE A TIMELINE WE HAVE TO GO BACK BY NOVEMBER 12TH. SO IF YOUR MEETING IS THE FIRST, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A SECOND, I BELIEVE. YEAH. YOU HAVE TIME TO SEND THOSE THOUGHTS TO US SO WE CAN TAKE THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL. OKAY. THEN DID I COVER WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. OKAY. UM, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? IT'S PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. I'M THINKING WE NEED A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UH, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION UPDATE AS WELL. PUT THOSE AS SEPARATE MOTIONS OR JUST PULL THEM ALL TOGETHER. CAUSE IT'S SEVERAL MOTIONS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO, SO THE FIRST POTION HAVING A REBECCA AND CODY THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS SEC INCORRECT. OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED THAT CARRIES. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, REPHRASE THAT AGAIN FOR ME PLEASE, UH, UPDATE ON SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY FROM A WORKING GROUP AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SYSTEMIC CRISIS. THE MUSIC, I WAS ONE. FANTASTIC. SO DO WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR THAT SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR I'LL POST FANTASTIC. ANYTHING ELSE THAT TONIGHT THAT WE WANT TO ADD ON AS A FEATURE AGENDA ITEM, I DON'T WANT TO FILL US UP. DO WE WANT TO PUT THE BOND? IT WOULD BE MAYBE OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE GO TO REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS. SO IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION FROM THE COMMUNITY OR IF WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DIVERSITY IN THE APPLICANTS SO FAR OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS THEM AND THE WAY THEY WERE ABLE TO SAY THAT IN THE FORM OF AN UPDATE OR DISCUSSION AFTER THE UPDATE, BASICALLY. YEAH. AND I'D SAY TIME, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE MILLION DOLLAR BOND. UH, YEAH. OKAY. HMM. YEAH. CORRECT. UM, DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE OR IS THAT NO, WE WOULD HAVE TO STILL VOTE RIGHT. MOTION IN A SECOND. YEAH. SO AT MOST, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ANYONE WANTS TO, CAN WE HAVE A SECOND VICE CHAIR? UH, ALL IN FAVOR. UM, I'LL POSE CURIOUS AS WELL. LAST CALL FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THEY'RE PAYING TO HAVE THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING FUNDS. I MEAN, IS THAT TOO BIG OF A JUMP TO TALK ABOUT NEXT TIME? OR SHOULD WE HAVE THAT AS LIKE A STANDING ITEM? IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S STILL SOME WORK FOR US TO BE THERE FOR AS WELL. ANY THOUGHTS IN THE BIGGEST CHUNK OF WORK I THINK IS OFFICE POT IS THE PI RECOMMENDATION AND IT COULD COME UNDER THE SYSTEMIC RACISM TOPIC. BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE DONE A, UH, I DUNNO, I'M THE ONE THAT LOADS UP THE AGENDA. AND SO I AS ADD, ADD MORE, UM, I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN THAT MAY BE, WE CAN WAIT UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING. I MEAN, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO TALK, I THINK MORE ABOUT THE BOARD FORMATION AND WHAT, [01:35:01] HOW THAT, HOW THAT COMES TOGETHER. WE CAN WAIT FOR THE SYSTEMIC WORKING GROUP, I THINK, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME THINGS FOR KIDS AND FOR FUTURE MEETINGS. I MEAN, SO NOW SAY SHOOT, SHE WAS GOING TO TAKE IT TO STAFF AND THEY WERE GOING TO COME BACK TO US WHEN THEY NEEDED STUFF FROM US. I MEAN, IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT PLUS THE, THAT OTHER HIGH LEVEL, UH, BIPAP RECOMMENDATIONS. SO MAYBE UNTIL WE HEAR FROM STAFF, OUR ROLE IS DONE FOR THE MOMENT. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY KNOW. YEAH. I WILL BE FORWARDING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO MJR PARTNERS TONIGHT. UM, IF I CAN GET IT TONIGHT AND SO WE CAN COME BACK, BUT, UM, YEAH. YES. AND WE ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STILL ADD IT BEFORE THE MEETING UP TO THE DEADLINE OF LIKE THE FRIDAY AT TWO 30 BEFORE THE MONDAY MEETING. FANTASTIC. WELL WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ONE MORE ITEM MESSAGE HERE? SO I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT THE RACISM TRAINING. SO AT RIGHT NOW, TENTATIVE, I THINK ABOUT THE SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER, MJ ART IS GOING TO PRESENT WHAT WE'RE CALL IT AN EQUITY AWARENESS TRAINING OR PRESENTATION AS AN APPETIZER, THE DECEMBER, I'M DOING RACISM TRAINING. AND RIGHT NOW THOSE DATES ARE DECEMBER 7TH THROUGH THE NINTH. IT WILL BE FOUR. IT IS A THREE DAY COMMITMENT AND WE HAVE 10 SLOTS FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, 10 SLOTS FOR THE ARTS COMMISSION MEMBERS. SO YOU'LL BE GOING THROUGH THE UNDOING RACISM TRAINING TOGETHER IN DECEMBER, BUT IN NOVEMBER, IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION, HAS AN APPETIZER BE THE MAIN UNDOING RACISM. SO KIND OF PUT THOSE DATES ON YOUR CALENDAR. UH IT'S UM, 10 TO FOUR, UM, EACH DAY, THE SEVENTH, EIGHTH AND NINTH. AND WHEN WAS THE NOVEMBER? YEAH, I THINK IT'S THE SECOND WEEK. UM, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, USE THAT, UM, I'VE, I'VE DONE THE UNDOING RACISM WORKSHOP. UM, JUST, JUST, JUST ALMOST A COMMISSION. AND I WOULD DEFINITELY HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY ON A COMMISSION THAT IS IN A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP BE PRIORITIZED IN TERMS OF SEATS. UM, AND UH, MAYBE WE ALLOW THE SYSTEMIC QUESTIONS AND WORKING GROUPS TO DECIDE WHO'S GONNA, BECAUSE THAT WORK IS SO IMPORTANT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LEADING THE EQUITY STUFF THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE REALLY PRIORITIZE MEMBERS OF THAT GROUP. FIRST, IF THERE'S OTHER MUSIC COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS AND LET US KNOW. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE POWER TO US COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE PART OF THAT GROUP. I'M SYNOVIA. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT IF, UM, CAUSE I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE FOLKS IN THE WORKING GROUP ARE VOLUNTEERS, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN GET IT TO TWO DAYS TO EIGHT HOURS INSTEAD OF THREE, UM, SIX HOURS PAYS. OKAY. AND SO I'M, I'M WORKING ON THAT, BUT IT SHOULD BE, UM, TIMID TO BE SCHEDULED FROM THE DECEMBER 7TH TO THE NINTH. SO, UM, AND IT'S, YOU CAN, YOU CAN GOOGLE THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE FOR SURVIVAL AND BEYOND. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND 40 YEARS. THEY, UM, THEY'VE BEEN A PART OF WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY, REALLY ACROSS THE WORLD. UM, THERE IS AN EVALUATION OF LIKE ANTI-RACISM TRAININGS THAT ARE EFFECTIVE. ANYBODY STATES IT'S A LITTLE BIT OLDER VALUATION BY THE ASPEN INSTITUTE AND THE PEOPLE'S INSTITUTE IS THE BEST ACCORDING TO ME. AND SO, UM, IT'S A RE IT'S NOT AN EASY TRAINING. UM, IT'S INTENSE AND UM, BUT IT'S REAL AND IT GETS YOU RIGHT. UM, SO IN MY OPINION, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU REALLY ARE INTERESTED AND YOU CAN'T GET IN FOR THIS, PLEASE JUST REACH OUT TO ME. I'LL GET YOU IN TO ANOTHER ONE. OKAY. THANK YOU, KELLY. I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ON THIS MUSIC COMMISSION TO TAKE THAT TRAINING AT SOME POINT. FANTASTIC. WELL WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT MOTION TO ADJOURN AND THE SECOND, JARED, THANK YOU SO MUCH STAFF. AND THANK YOU FOR A LONG AS EXTRA TIME TO GET BACK TO A NORMAL MEETING STRUCTURE. [01:40:01] THIS IS NOT HAVING TO DO IT AT 90 MINUTES WAS VERY NICE TO SEE ME. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ERICA. THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT CITY HALL, SO ERICA . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.