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[00:00:02]

OH, I CAN SEE YOU NOW.

ALRIGHT.

CAN YOU SEE ME? OH NO.

AMY.

YOU HAVE TO TURN YOUR VIDEO ON I D I E YEAH, THAT NEED, YOU KNOW, AMY, THIS IS JOSEPH AT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HERE AT CITY HALL.

SO IF YOU WANT TO HANG UP YOUR PHONE AND RUN YOUR AUDIO OUT OF YOUR COMPUTER, JUST BECAUSE WE WILL.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, BRETT STILL WORKING ON HIS.

OKAY.

[CALL TO ORDER ]

UH, SO IT IS FIVE 44.

I'M UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

OKAY.

FIRST THE ITEM OF BUSINESS, MAKE SURE YOU'RE ALL MUTED.

SO WE DON'T GET ANY FEEDBACK OR ECHOES OF, AS I SAID, FIVE 44 CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER THE ARTS COMMISSION, A MEETING VIA VIDEO CONFERENCING ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 19TH.

I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH AND OKAY.

I HEAR YOU THOUGH.

YOU SAID YES, AMY.

WE'RE TALKING, UM, YOU, YOUR AUDIO IS NOT, LET'S SEE, DON'T HAVE A CHAT.

UM, MEGAN CAN, OR SOMEBODY CAN TEXT AMY, LET HER KNOW THAT.

SHE'S UN-MUTED THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A ROLE.

I SEE A COMMISSIONER MOCK COMMISSIONER BARNS, COMMISSIONER ZISMAN COMMISSIONER KEATON, COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER POLL, OR VICE-CHAIR POLGAR COMMISSIONER, VAN DYKE, UH, AND THAT'S AND MYSELF.

SO THAT'S QUORUM.

UH, DID I DIDN'T SEE ANY CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS, BUT IF A STAFF CAN CONFIRM, JUST MAKE SURE THIS IS ANN MARIE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

NO COMMUNICATION ALSO DOES COMMUNICATIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL

[2.a. Approve the minutes for the regular Arts Commission meeting on September 28, 2020 ]

OF MINUTES, UH, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR, POLAR MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, SECONDED BY FLORES.

ANY COMMENTS? EDITS QUESTIONS, REHAB.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

I THOUGHT PART OF IT, I DON'T HAVE IT ON MY SCREEN.

IT HAD LIKE WEIRD THE NAMES, JUST SORT OF FLORES AND BARN IT'S AT FLORES AND BALLPARK, AND IT DIDN'T SAY MOTION BY FLORIDA'S OR SECONDED BY BARNES.

AND SO I REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS LIKE A TYPO THAT'S ALL.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S ITEM FOUR, A FIVE.

GOT THAT.

EMORY.

UM, YES, I GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER EDITS OR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THE MINUTES? UM, ALL IN FAVOR.

LET'S SEE ALL HANDS UP.

ANY OPPOSED OR ABSTENTIONS.

I'M GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN.

ANY, ANY OPPOSED OR ABSTENTIONS? I CAN JUST MAKE SURE ALL THOSE HANDS WERE UP FOR, FOR, FOR A YEAR.

UM, SO THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, I, I,

[Additional Item ]

WE'VE GOT SOME UPDATES HERE IN STAFF BRIEFINGS.

I, I HOPE Y'ALL, DON'T MIND, UH, GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A QUICK, UH, CHAIR'S REPORT.

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY A QUICK FEW QUICK WORDS.

UM, I MEAN, DURING THESE PAST THIS WHOLE YEAR, DOING A LOT OF THINKING ABOUT, UH, OUR ROLE, WHAT WE DO.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS, REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE VOLUNTEERS, THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL WORK.

THIS IS EXTRACURRICULAR TO, TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE USUALLY HAVE IN OUR LIFE.

UM, AND, AND WE ALSO ARE ADVISERS ACCORDING TO OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND, AND CITY CODE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ADVISE COUNSEL ON ARTS RELATED MATTERS.

UM, WE ARE TO PROMOTE COOPERATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND ITS CITIZENS.

UM,

[00:05:01]

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FACILITATE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ART ORCS ORGANIZATIONS.

AND I JUST, I, I WANTED TO, TO SAY THAT TONIGHT, UM, JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT WE AS ADVISORS, WE DON'T REALLY, WE SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR, OR, UM, THE JURISDICTION THAT TO COMMAND SOMEONE TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT.

WE CAN'T TELL COUNCIL WHAT TO DO.

WE CAN ADVISE THEM, WE CAN'T TELL STAFF WHAT TO DO.

WE CAN ADVISE THEM AND PROVIDE INPUT ON WHAT, ON THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY RUN AND THAT THEY ADMINISTER.

AND WE CAN'T TELL THE COMMUNITY WHAT TO DO, BUT WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO THEM AND TO, AND TO COMMUNICATE AND TO LET THEM KNOW TO INFORM THEM OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING.

UM, SO I REALLY JUST WANTED TO REMIND US OF THAT, OF, OF OUR POSITION, OF AS LISTENERS AND AS COMMUNICATORS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING THAT WE ARE THAT BRIDGE BETWEEN THESE THREE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, THESE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THAT THERE IS THAT COLLABORATION, THAT, THAT WE ARE PROMOTING THAT, THAT COOPERATION.

AND THEN WE ARE FACILITATING THESE CONVERSATIONS AS WE, AS WE WORK TO DEVELOP THE ARTS AND CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, NOT TO SAY THAT Y'ALL, HAVEN'T, Y'ALL, WE, WE'VE DONE AMAZING WORK THESE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY THIS YEAR, KUDOS TO STAFF, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE SO OVERWORKED.

WE APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL ARE DOING.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COMPASSION, THE UNDERSTANDING, UM, THANK YOU.

UM, BUT FOR COMMISSIONERS, I DID, I DID WANT TO REMIND THIS LIKE YET YES.

ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE VOLUNTEERS, WE'RE DOING THIS ON TOP OF OUR OTHER WORK, UM, AND THAT WE, OUR ADVISORS AND OUR KEY, OUR KEY POWER, THE POWER THAT WE DO HAVE AS ARTS LEADERS, WE ARE ARTS LEADERS AND THAT'S TO COMMUNICATE.

UM, SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR FORGIVING ME THIS THIS TIME TO SAY, SAY, SO, UM, COMMISSIONER FLORES HAVE COMMENT QUESTION.

UM, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO, UH, TO MOVE ON THE AGENDA ITEM UP? WOULD THAT BE AFTER OR WHEN WE GET TO NEW BUSINESS OR, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S GET THROUGH STAFF BRIEFINGS AND THEN WE'LL MOVE, WE'LL MOVE THAT ITEM.

AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, SO MOVING ALONG, STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, FIRST,

[3.a. Creative Space Bond - Shawn Willett, City of Austin Purchasing Office ]

DID WE SAY WE WANT TO DO CREATE A SPACE BOND OR DID WE WANT TO GIVE SOME NOVI THE FIRST CHANCE? NOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

CREATE A SPACE BOND WITH SEAN WALLET.

THANK YOU.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE MATT GERAIS JURY.

I'M PICTURING YOUR LAST NAME.

SEAN WILL.

WASN'T ABLE TO, UH, WASN'T ABLE TO BE WITH US AND, UH, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU, I THINK YOUR, YOUR PREAMBLE AND YOUR WORDS WERE VERY WELL SPOKEN, CAN COMMISSIONERS DO HAVE A VERY INTERESTING AND, UH, I WOULD SAY CHALLENGING, UH, KIND OF SPACE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PROCUREMENT, UM, FOR OUR CREATIVE SPACE BOND.

AND SO WE DO HAVE OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO TALK WITH US ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS ONCE WE ISSUE THE RFQ AND THEN THE RFP FOR THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND OF WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

YES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO, JUST, FOR THOSE WATCHING, YOU MIGHT JUST, UH, REMIND PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE AND YOUR TITLE, THE UNKNOWN STAFF PERSON I HAD ON MY HEAD, UH, CHRISTINE MCGUIRE, WHERE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, I, UH, SUPPORT THE WORK OF, UM, THE CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION IN THE MUSIC DIVISION ON THE CREATIVE SPACE BON.

SO, UM, WHERE THE REDEVELOPMENT DIVISION, SORRY ABOUT THAT, MATT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ANTI LOBBYING ORDINANCE? YES, I AM.

YES, I AM.

THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION STEAM.

AND THAT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT WITH THE LAST THING IS INTERESTING.

SO, BUT COMMISSIONERS, I AM NAPPING THEORY WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON'S PURCHASING OFFICE.

I'M DOING IT FOR SHAUN VILLA.

SHE APOLOGIZES, SHE HAD SOME PRIOR COMMITMENTS, UH, THAT SHE COULD NOT GET OUT.

SO, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO REALLY SPEAK TO THE PROJECTS ITSELF.

I MEAN, YOU'RE AFRAID TO THINGS, BOND PROJECTS, BUT AS CHRISTINE MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE A COUPLE DIFFERENT SOLICITATION METHODS OR REQUESTS WITH WALLS AND MARK THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

AND I JUST REALLY WANTED TO STEP IN.

AND JUST FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES REALLY QUICK, YOU GIVE YOU GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ANTI LOBBYING.

SO THE CITY OF BOSTON'S ANTI-LOCK, I ONLY TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES.

YOU GOT SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER IT.

AND IF I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS FOR YOU, I WILL GET

[00:10:01]

BACK TO YOU.

SO GO AHEAD AND START OFF.

THE, ALL THE PURPOSE OF ALO ITSELF IS TO PROVIDE THE MOST FAIR, EQUITABLE, DEFINITIVE PROCESS POSSIBLE FOR SELECTION AMONG POTENTIAL VENDORS IN ORDER TO APPLY THE BEST AND MOST COMPETITIVE BUSINESS SERVICES.

AND THE FURTHER COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW WILL REQUIRE A THERE'S A COUPLE DEFINITIONS.

THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE ALO.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FIRST IS A RESPONSE.

SO WHAT IS A RESPONSE IN THE BAL OR RESPONDED AS A PERSON WHO HAS TIMELY SUBMITTED OR SUBSEQUENTLY TIMELY SUBMITTED IN RESPONSE TO MAKE CITY SOLICITATION, EVEN IF THAT PERSON WITHDRAWS THAT RESPONSE, OR HAS BEEN DISQUALIFIED FOR ANY REASON, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED A RESPONSIBLE, UH, THEY ALSO INCLUDE SUBSIDIARY OR SUBSIDIARY, OR YOUR COMPANIES HAVE A RESPONDENT, UH, JOINT ENTERPRISES HAVE JOINT VENTURES OR PARTNERSHIPS WITH INTERESTS IN WHICH THE RESPONDENT IS A MEMBER OF, UM, AND ALSO SUBCONTRACT, WHICH YOU RESPONDED.

YOU MENTIONED THAT, THAT RESPONSE RESPONSE.

SO CORRESPONDENT IS THE FIRST DEFINITION STATE SECOND ONE.

YES.

CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER? MAYBE YOU'RE A LITTLE BLURRY, AT LEAST ON MY END.

I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING, SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER ROOMS, OR YOU'RE BREAKING UP A LITTLE BIT, SPEAK A LITTLE SLOWER.

WELL, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH IT.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

I'LL HAVE THAT.

YEAH.

MATTHEW, I THINK BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE PHONE, IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A BAD CONNECTION.

OKAY.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

THE, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY, A LOT OF THAT.

SO THE SECOND DEFINITION IS AN AGENT AND AN AGENT MEANS A PERSON AUTHORIZED BY A RESPONDENT TO ACT FOR HIM.

WE'RE IN PLACE OF THAT RESPONSE.

SO WE HAVE A RESPONDENT IS ACTUALLY A SNAKE OFFER, REALLY AN AGENT WHO THAT PERSON IS AUTHORIZED BY THE RESPONDENT'S NECK.

AND THEN THE LAST INDIVIDUAL, THE LAST DEFINITION WE REALLY NEED THAT STATEMENT IS THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT FORCE.

AND THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT VERSUS IS THE CITY EMPLOYEE DESIGNATED WITHIN THE SOLICITATION ITSELF AS THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR PURPOSES OF THAT SOLICITATION.

SO WHEN WE ISSUE A SOLICITATION AND SOLICITATION LIST OF AUTHORIZED CONTACT, AND FOR THAT POINT IN TIME FORWARD, ALL COMMUNICATION, REGARDLESS TO THAT SOLICITATION OR THE RESULTING CONTRACT, YOU CAN GO THROUGH THAT ONE INDIVIDUAL AT THE SCENE.

SO THE RESTRICTIONS ON LOBBYING.

SO THE ANTI LOBBYING ORDINANCE ITSELF IT'S IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME THE SOLICITATION PUBLISHES ONLINE UNTIL A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU NEED A SOLICITATION IS CANCELED THAT POINT IN TIME.

ALL IN ALL CONTRACTS RESULTING FROM THE SOLICITATION ARE EXECUTED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE ALO OR 60 DAYS FOLLOWING COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION.

SO AN EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WE TAKE A CONTRACT WITH COUNCIL COUNCIL APPROVES IT.

AND FOR SOME REASON, THE CONTRACT DOES NOT GET EXECUTED WITHIN 60 DAYS ON THAT 60 DAY, MARK, ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACT THOUGH, AS A ESCALATION IS TWO MODE.

SO THE ALO IS AN EFFECT ISSUING.

IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS.

SO THE FOLLOWING ARE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED DURING THIS TIME WHEN YOU'RE IN THE ALO, IS THAT IT RESPONDENT OR AGENT WILL NOT COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH A CITY OFFICIAL OR CITY EMPLOYEE.

WE'RE BOTH IN ORDER TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION ABOUT A RESPONDENT, THE RESPONSE WITH RESPECT TO THE SOLICITATION, ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO REJECT ONE OR MORE RESPONSES.

THEY ARE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SOLICITATION OR ASKING A CITY OFFICIAL OR EMPLOYEE TO FAVOR OPPOSE RECOMMEND.

WE'RE NOT RECOMMEND VOTE FOR OREGON'S CONSIDER OR NOT CONSIDER OR TO TAKE ACTION REFRAIN FROM TAKING ACTION ANY TIME, REGARDLESS OF BUILDING A LITTLE RESPECT TO THIS SOLICITATION, THE SECOND ITEM THAT IS RESTRICTED TO THIS, YOU KNOW, REALLY APPLIES TO YOURSELVES.

THE CONDITIONERS, A CITY OFFICIAL SHALL NOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESPONDENT REGARDING A RESPONSE OR THE WHICH THEY KNOW LOBBYING PERIOD OF WATTS.

WE YOURSELVES AS CONSIDERED AS CITY OFFICIALS AND I'LL CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESPONSE DURING THE ALA GROUP.

[00:15:02]

AND A THIRD ONE IS CITY EMPLOYEE, OTHER THAN THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON CANNOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH.

THEY RESPONDED REGARDING A RESPONSE TO THE SOLICITATION ITSELF.

AND THEN HERE ARE JUST SOME ITEMS THAT ARE PERMITTED DURING THE ALO.

SO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN RESPONDENT, WHERE THEIR AGENT AND ANY AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON OR A PRESENCE OF THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON.

AND RICK IS, IS, ARE YOU HEARING ME OKAY NOW? OR DO I NEED TO SLOW DOWN A BIT? UM, I CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

BUT, UM, I'M REALLY A VISUAL PERSON AND NOT REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT IN PRINT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, I'D BE HAPPY TO EMAIL A COPY OF THE ALO TO CHRISTINE, AND SHE CAN GET IT OUT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, IF THAT SOUNDS THAT'S PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO CONTINUED CONTINUED HERE WITH WHAT IS PERMITTED OR COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESPONDENT OR THE AGENT RELATING TO CURRENT CONTRACTS OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A RESPONDENT AND THEIR AGENT AND CITY STAFF MEMBER, UH, RELATING TO HIM WILL BE NOT SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL, UH, PROTEST OR PROTEST HEARINGS, UH, COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, RESPONDING TO THE AGENT AND THE CITIES SMB ARE A DEPARTMENT OF THE SMALL MINOR BUSINESS RESOURCE DEPARTMENT RELATING TB CITY IN WDG PROGRAM COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT'S ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY AND COMMUNICATION, MAJORING IT PROPERLY NOTICE MEETINGS BUILD UNDER THE TEXAS PUBLIC MEETING AT IT COMMUNICATION.

THE CITY STAFF HAS OFFICIAL RESPONSIBILITY, FOODS, SETTING INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.

THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE UPDATED.

NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT DISCLOSURE OF A VIOLATION.

THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION AS A CITY OFFICIAL.

UH, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THE CITY OFFICIAL WE'RE EMPLOYEE THAT BECOMES AWARE OF A VIOLATION NOTIFY THE OPERATOR CONTACT PERSON IN WRITING AS SOON AS SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION COMMITTED OF THE LOBBYING WORK MINUTES, EMAIL THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON FOR THAT SOLICITATION, AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE AND REVIEWED IT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

SO ON THAT NOTE, LET'S TALK ABOUT, THERE IS A VIOLET.

SO WE RECEIVED A, A DISCLOSURE VIOLATION HAS BEEN VIEWED INTERNALLY FROM THE VIOLATION THAT OCCURRED AND RESPONDING TO BE DISQUALIFIED FOR PARTICIPATING IN A SOLICITATION, AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN A REAL SOLICITATION FOR THE SAME OR SIMILAR SOLICITATION, WHAT THAT SAME SIMPLE PROJECT RESPONDENT MAY APPEAL THEIR DISQUALIFICATIONS AND THE CITY'S EFFORTS WOULD BE PERMISSION, OR THEY CAN REQUEST A HEARING OFFICER WHO WILL DO THAT AS THE PATIENT WELL, AND RESPONDENTS THAT VIOLATE THIS WOMAN'S THREE OR MORE TIMES IN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

THEY CAN BE SUBJECT TO DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS ON SEQUEL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A GOOD OVERVIEW.

UM, GOT, GOT, LOOK FORWARD IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ALO, JUST KIND OF GO BACK AND HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANT ITEMS FOR PERMISSIONS ALSO IS THAT ALL STARTS WITH THE SOLICITATION GETS ISSUED AND IT ENDS EVEN WHEN IT'S CANCELED, CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED FOR 60 DAYS, APPLE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, AND YOU CANNOT AS A CITY OFFICIAL CONTACT THE COMMUNITY OR ADD ANY COMMUNICATION RESPONDENT REGARDING THEIR RESPONSE OR THIS SOLICITATION ITSELF, WHILE IN THE LOBBY, IF YOU BELIEVE YOU HAVE JUST DISCLOSED THAT TO THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON, THE STUDENT'S SOLICITATION WILL TAKE IT THROUGH.

AND THAT'S THE GENERAL OVERVIEW.

AND I DID TAKE A NOTE, UH, RICK AND JAMIE AND CHRISTINE, AND SHE CAN GET IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION THAT I GUESS IT'S JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

UM, SO ONCE, ONCE THE RFQ IS ISSUED, THAT'S WHEN THE SOLICITATION BEGINS AND THE NO CONTACT BEGINS.

UM, SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO EMAIL IN A COMMISSIONER ASKING A QUESTION, THE APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE TO DIRECT IT TO THE AUTHORIZED CONTACTS.

YES, SIR.

IN THIS CASE, ARE WE ASSUMING THAT IT'S SHOWN YES, IT WILL BE LISTED IN THE SOLICITATION ITSELF? WELL, OF A, YET, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE ALWAYS ADVISE INTERNAL CITY STAFF.

NO, TO JUST ERR, ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION,

[00:20:02]

YOU GET SOME COMMUNICATION, YOU ARE WORRIED, IT'S ALL THIS FLOWS THAT, UM, TO THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL VIOLATIONS OR VIOLATIONS THAT THAT ARE RECORDED ARE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED A VIOLATION.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S ACCIDENTS THAT QUESTION THINGS LIKE THAT.

THOSE HAPPEN MORE OFTEN, WHICH IS BETTER TO SAY AND REPORT THAT.

OKAY.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE? UM, MAN, WHEN I'M INTERESTED IN, WHEN I'LL GET AN UPDATE ON A KOREAN SPACEMAN, WHAT'S GOING ON RFI, I KNOW THE PROCESS IS LONG, BUT, UM, OF COURSE, AND WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS, I ACTUALLY HAVE NOT HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROJECT ITSELF, BUT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE ON IT, THE RFI WAS ISSUED AND HAS CLOSED AND PRISTINE REQUEST FOR FALL AFTER THAT COMING UP PRETTY QUICK, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY A DATE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH PLANNING.

THEY ARE ISSUED IN EARLY NOVEMBER OR IN THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF NOVEMBER.

WE'VE HAD 22 TO 23 RESPONSES FROM THE RFI AND THOSE HAVE INFORMED, UM, THE RFQ AND SAW BEING DEVELOPED AS WELL AS INFORMING OUR BROKERS.

UM, IT HAD SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION AND GOOD LEADS AND WE'VE SENT ALL THAT TO OUR BROKERAGE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE? MATTHEW, CHRISTINE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE OFF TO NOW THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO GIVE THEM THE SAME SPIEL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHRISTINE.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO WE'RE MOVING

[3.b. Cultural Funding Review Process update – Meghan Wells, Cultural Arts Division Manager ]

ON, STAFF BRIEFINGS.

UH, SYNOVIA.

DO YOU WANT TO GO UP NEXT? ARE WE STILL GOOD WITH MEGAN? SURE.

YOU CAN GO MEGAN, AND THEN I'LL WRAP UP.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PROCESS UPDATE.

I'M MEGAN WELLS.

SURE.

HIGH COMMISSION AND THOSE WATCHING MEGHAN WELLS, CULTURAL ARTS DIVISION MANAGER.

JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, THE REGULAR UPDATE, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, BE IN THE LOOP AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED WITH OUR HOT FUNDED REVIEW PROCESS, AS WELL AS NEXT STEPS.

SO, UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HOSTED A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WITH MARGIE REESE WHO LEADS MJR PARTNERS AND MEMBERS OF HER TEAM ON, UH, THE SEVENTH OF THIS MONTH, OCTOBER 7TH, WE DISCUSS WHERE OUR PROCESS STANDS RIGHT NOW, REFLECT BACK ON ALL THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY SO FAR AND FRAME HOW THE PROCESS NOW INCLUDES CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE LIVE MUSIC AND HERITAGE TOURISM COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS CULTURAL ARTS.

WE DO HAVE A SPANISH LANGUAGE VERSION OF THIS WORKSHOP THAT WE ARE LAUNCHING, UH, PROPOSED FOR NOVEMBER 7TH.

SO THAT WILL BE COMING UP OR RIGHT NOW PUTTING THE FINISHING TOUCHES OF THAT.

AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT IS HAPPENING FOR SURE.

UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO PARTNER WITH SOME COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS TO HELP US BETTER CONNECT IN THIS NEW, OR I GUESS REALLY NOT.

SO NEW VIRTUAL WORLD THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, UH, TO ENSURE WE'RE REACHING A COMMUNITY AS DEEPLY AND BROADLY AS WE CAN.

WE KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO BALANCE EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY VIRTUALLY.

UH, SO WE'LL BE, UH, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UH, INNOVATING AND REACHING PEOPLE THROUGH COMMUNITIES THAT THEY ARE ALREADY IN TOUCH WITH.

SO THE NEXT MILESTONES AHEAD, AND THIS PROCESS WILL BE TO ROLL OUT OUR PRELIMINARY PROGRAM APPROACHES AND CONCEPTS FOR ALL HOT PROGRAM, HOT FUNDED PROGRAM AREAS.

SO THAT WILL BE CULTURAL ARTS, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION THROUGH THE HERITAGE TOURISM AND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND TENTATIVELY IN MID NOVEMBER, WE WILL HAVE COMMUNITY INPUT AND TALK BACK SCHEDULED ON THAT CONTENT THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR AND INTO THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

ALONG WITH THAT PROCESS, WE WILL BE SCHEDULING SOME EQUITY AWARENESS AND UNDOING RACISM WORKSHOPS WHERE COMMISSIONS AND STAFF.

SO THOSE COMMISSIONS WILL INCLUDE THOSE FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION, MUSIC COMMISSION, A HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, THE AIPP PANEL, AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE LIVE MUSIC, UM, WORKING GROUP, UH, TO START WITH.

AND THEN WE'LL ROLL THOSE OUT TO COMMUNITY THROUGH

[00:25:01]

THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, AND ALSO STAFF OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, SO THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE LANGUAGE WE'RE USING, THE CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING AND HOW WE'RE OPERATIONALIZING EQUITY, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S APPROACH.

UM, AND THEN LOOKING FURTHER OUT, WE ARE HOPING TO ROLL OUT SPECIFIC MORE SPECIFIC PROGRAM GUIDELINES IN EARLY 2021.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'RE HOPING FOR JANUARY, UH, AND AS ALWAYS OUR CENTRALIZED LANDING PAGE FOR INFORMATION UPDATES AND DIGITAL CONTENT IS AVAILABLE WITH ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, AS WELL AS, UH, UM, RECORDINGS THAT YOU MIGHT'VE MISSED.

AND THAT LANDING PAGE IS WWW DOT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV FORWARD SLASH DEPARTMENT FORWARD SLASH CULTURAL DASH FUNDING DASH REVIEW DASH PROCESS.

AND, UH, IF YOU COULDN'T AGAIN, IF YOU COULDN'T MAKE OUR VIRTUAL EVENT ON, UH, OCTOBER 7TH, THE RECORDING IS UP ON YOUTUBE AND IT'S A LINKED THROUGH THIS WEBPAGE THAT I JUST MENTIONED AS WELL AS THE SLIDE DECK THAT WE PRESENTED AGAIN, THAT'S WWW DOT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV FORWARD SLASH DEPARTMENT FORWARD SLASH CULTURAL DASH FUNDING DASH REVIEW DASH PROCESS AND ALL THE WAY AS ALWAYS STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT MEGAN, HOW MANY, UM, PRESENTATION, HOW MANY, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST JOKING.

HOW MANY DASHES? OH, MANY, MANY DASHES.

SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE, I'M JUST, I WILL, UM, SAY THAT I, WHEN, WHEN THE UNDOING RACISM TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE, I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO ATTEND.

UM, UH, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT BE MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY PREPARED.

UM, IT'S NOT EASY WORK, UM, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT WORK.

SO, UH, I DO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO, TO TRY TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY TO SCHEDULE ONE, TO GET IN, GET IN ONE OF THOSE WORKSHOPS, UM, AND BE READY FOR, FOR SOME INTERNAL WORK TO BE DONE.

THANK YOU.

HOW MANY, AND JUST TO ADD, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO THROUGH A WORKSHOP WITH MARGIE'S TEAM, WITH MGR PARTNERS THAT IS, UH, BASED AROUND A CULTURAL, UM, UH, CONTEXT LENS.

AND THERE WILL ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE PART IN THE CITY'S UNDOING RACISM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER COMMUNITY LENS, BUT THOSE WILL BE VALUABLE AND, UM, REALLY RELEVANT TO THE WORK WE'RE DOING.

SO THANK YOU.

SEEING NO QUESTIONS, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON

[3.c. Hotel Occupancy Tax (HOT) Update – Sylnovia Holt-Rabb ]

TO, UH, STAFF BRIEFINGS THREE C HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX UPDATE SYNOVIA.

YES.

GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONER SOLON, ELVIA HAUTE REV ACTING DIRECTOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AS MENTIONED LAST MONTH, I BRING YOU SOME GOOD NEWS, A BITTERSWEET.

SO WE ARE ENDING THE YEAR OR CLOSE ONE, ABOUT $700,000 ABOVE OUR PROJECTION.

NEXT SLIDE.

AS YOU SEE IN GREEN, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING IN ABOUT 8.2 WHEN WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN 8.9.

SO WE'RE NOT ENDING THE YEAR IN AS BAD AS SHAPE, BUT WE'RE STILL ENDING THE YEAR NEGATIVE.

AND THE BUDGET OFFICE IS ALLOWING US AT THREE YEAR TIMEFRAME TO COME OUT OF THAT NEGATIVE POSITION.

AND YOU ALL FACTORED ALL OF THAT IN, IN YOUR WORK OF DEVELOPING THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FYI 21.

SO AGAIN, IT'S A BITTERSWEET, WE BROUGHT IN MORE MONEY AND SO WE ARE STILL NEGATIVE, BUT JUST NOT AS NEGATIVE, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I DON'T SEE ANY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT SLIDE DOWN.

SO WE'LL MOVE ON

[3.d. Economic Development Organization ]

WITH A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION.

YES.

THANK YOU AGAIN, CHAIR.

SO THERE'LL BE A WHOLE RAB ACTING DIRECTOR.

SO ON OCTOBER 1ST, AFTER A FIVE TO SIX YEAR PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON DEVELOPING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT COURT.

THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION WILL BE TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES,

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UH, AROUND REDEVELOPMENT REVITALIZATION, CULTURE ARTS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, JUST THE NAME OF VIEW.

AND AS PART OF THE ADOPTION PROCESS, THERE WILL BE A NIGHT OF EVENTUALLY A 19 MEMBER BOARD, BUT FOR THE IMMEDIATE BOARD, THERE WAS A POSITION, UH, DESIGNATED FOR ARTS AND MUSIC.

AND SO I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT CHEER JAIME CASTILLO HAS BEEN APPOINTED THE ARTS COMMISSION POSITION AND RICK CARNEY HAS BEEN ACQUAINTED THE MUSIC COMMISSION POSITION.

AND SO THE CORPORATION IS WE'RE WORKING FAST AND FOR YEARS TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING AND THEY WILL COME BACK WITH A CONTRACT WITH CITY COUNCIL ON PRIORITIZATION OF FIRST PROJECTS THAT THEY WILL WORK ON.

ANY QUESTIONS, THE JAIME S ANOTHER VOLUNTEER POSITION.

UM, I GUESS I WANTED TO CLARIFY, I WAS GONNA, I GUESS I WAS GONNA WAIT FOR OUR MEETING LATER THIS WEEK, BUT I, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS AN INTERIM POSITION.

OH YES.

HI, YOU ARE CORRECT.

MY APOLOGIES COMMISSION COULD COME BACK AND VOTE ON US, SOMEONE ELSE TO BE IN THAT POSITION.

YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

SO JAIME IS A TEMPORARY, BUT THEN THE COMMISSIONED NEXT MONTH OR THE MONTH AFTER SHE DEFINITELY, UH, HAVE A FORMAL VOTE, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION REGARDING YOU CAN ARGUE, WELL, THE COURT, THE NON WE'RE GONNA MOVE

[3.e. Creative Space Assistance Program (CSAP) Update ]

ON, UH, GET CREATIVE SPACE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM UPDATE.

OKAY.

SO YES, JUST WANT IT TO, UH, THINK JAIME AND, UM, MICHELLE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, SALINAS, ISN'T IT.

I DON'T WANT TO MESS THAT UP OR, UM, BRINGING, UM, UH, ITEMS TO MY ATTENTION IN TERMS OF THE CREATIVE SPACE PROGRAM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE RESOLUTION WHERE THIS PROGRAM WAS VOTED ON IN APRIL, AND IT TOOK A SLIGHT CHANGE DUE TO COBIT.

WE HAVE SINCE, UH, IN, UH, ENGAGED AND CONTRACTED WITH ALL THOSE AWARDEES AND HAVE, UH, THINK PROCESS ABOUT $700 IN INVOICES.

AND SO WE KNOW ALONG THAT SPECTRUM WHERE SOME DIFFICULTIES, SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEEK TO ADDRESS IN THE NEXT FUNDING PROGRAM.

NOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT LAST WEEK COUNCIL APPROVED OR SAVES RESOLUTION, WHICH I WOULD GET INTO, WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DATA, WHAT WE LEARNED FROM C-SAT, WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM THE GRANT RELEASE, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LEARN IN TERMS OF THE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION, IN TERMS OF HOW WE SHOULD PIVOT THIS PROGRAM SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH MONEY IN VIEWS AROUND SPACE AND AFFORDABILITY.

SO I JUST WANT TO MET THAT.

YES, THERE WERE CHALLENGES I COMMIT TO BEING TRANSPARENT, BEING MORE COMMUNICATIVE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PROGRAM, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE TO ONE OF 20, 21 BEFORE WE, UH, ACTUALLY LAUNCH OR PIVOT.

SO WE WILL COME BACK POSSIBLY IN DECEMBER WITH WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED AND WHAT DATA WE HAVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK IN ORDER TO PIVOT THE PROGRAM.

IF THAT'S WHAT'S, UH, THE DATA SAYS WE NEED TO DO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF UP AND DOWN THE CHAIN FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

AND, YOU KNOW, SISEP IS ONE OF A CONTINUUM OF PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN LIKE, JUST PUMPING OUT THE DOOR TO TRY TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT DOES NOT GO WITHOUT NOTICE, LIKE WE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND ARE AWARE OF HOW MANY WAYS AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT SPECIFIED PIECES OF THE COMMUNITY ARE BEING HELPED WITH ALL OF THESE EMERGENCY PROGRAMS. SO THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU'RE UNDERSTAFFED.

I KNOW IT'S A STRETCH AND THERE'S AN EDO IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OF IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE, JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW LAST WEEK, COUNCIL APPROVE WHAT'S CALLED THE SAVES RESOLUTION, UM, BASED ON, UM, UH, UH, EXPLORATORY OPTIONS BY THE BUDGET OFFICE.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED $15 MILLION

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TOWARDS SAVES.

SO THERE'S $5 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR CHILDCARE, $5 MILLION FOR AUSTIN LEGACY BUSINESS RELIEF PROGRAM, AND $5 MILLION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC BIN GRANT RELIEF PROGRAM.

AND SO WE ARE WORKING ON GUIDELINES.

WE PRESENTED GUIDELINES TO COUNCIL LAST WEEK, THEY CAME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS.

SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME ENHANCED EDITS TO THE BUSINESS RELIEF GRANT PROGRAM AND TAKE THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 12TH.

BUT AGAIN, THESE GUIDELINES WILL BE APPROVED BY COUNCIL, AND THEN WE WILL GO OUT AND SEEK A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT CAN, UM, ADMINISTER THESE GRANTS.

BUT AGAIN, AS BEFORE GUIDELINES ARE BEING DEVELOPED BY STAFF APPROVED BY COUNCIL, AND THEN THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WILL ADMINISTER THE GUIDELINES.

SO THE THIRD PARTY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE THIRD PARTY DOESN'T COME UP WITH THE GUIDELINES AND CITY SIDE DOES, AND COUNCIL HAS APPROVED THEM.

AND SO, AGAIN, THAT IS WHY, BECAUSE, UH, UH, ON THE MUSIC VENUE SIDE, WE REALIZED THAT IN OUR DATA, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THAT SOME MUSIC THEY GET TO SAVE RELIEF.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO TAKE A PAUSE TO SEE OUT OF ALL THE PROGRAMS. WE NEED TO MIND OUR DATA, TO SEE WHO WE MAY HAVE MISSED.

HOW SHOULD WE DEVELOP THE NEXT PROGRAM? SO AGAIN, MORE INFORMATION WE WANT WHEN THE PRESS RELEASE GOES OUT, WE ASK THAT YOU HELP US PROMOTE THAT NOT ONLY ON THE MUSIC SIDE, BUT THE LEGACY BUSINESS SIDE, AS WELL AS THE CHILDCARE PROGRAMS. SO AGAIN, $15 MILLION WE DID, WE'VE ALREADY STOOD UP.

I THINK 10 PROGRAMS, MEGAN, I'VE LOST COUNT.

SO NOW YOU HAVE THREE MORE COMING TO HELP, BUT WE LOVE, WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY, THIS WOULD NOT MEET ALL THE NEEDS.

WE KNOW THAT.

AND SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.

WE'RE IN AN EQUITY FRAMEWORK WITHIN ALL THE PROGRAMS. AND SO, UM, TAKE A LOOK IF YOU CAN, OR YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME AND I WILL TRY TO RESPOND IN THE BARN.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER MOCK ACTUALLY AMY'S HAND WAS UP FIRST.

SO AMY, I'LL LET YOU GO FIRST UP.

YOU'RE ON MUTE HERE.

OH, OH, OKAY.

YES.

UM, WELL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SMALL BUSINESS ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS SAVE, UH, GRANT IS SO IMPORTANT.

SO HOW, HOW SOON DO YOU THINK YOU CAN ROLL OUT THIS GRANT? I JUST, THAT I NEED TO TALK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND I WENT BECAUSE IT, PEOPLE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, CLOSING SHOPS AND THOSE ONE OR TWO MONTHS MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, WHETHER THEY WILL STAY OPEN OR NOT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MA STAFF.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE 16 VACANCIES STAFF IS STRETCHED THERE.

AND SO WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING AS HARD AS WE CAN, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO BREATHE THAT SOME GUIDELINES TO COUNCIL, BUT WE DO RECOGNIZE THE NEED.

WE KNOW BUSINESSES ARE HURTING, UM, AND THE 5 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO REACH EVERYBODY.

SO THEY HAVE BUILT IN A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH ATTORNEYS, WITH CPAS, WITH FINANCIAL ADVISORS, ALL OF THAT IS BAKED IN FOR ALL OF THESE THREE PROGRAMS. SO EVEN IF YOU DON'T GET THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, MAYBE YOU GET TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT COULD ALSO HELP OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CASH WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE TA.

BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE DID OUR SMALL BUSINESS PROGRAM GRANT, I THINK WE HAD $16 MILLION IN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN REQUESTS.

SO THIS THE KNEE IS JUST SO GREAT.

JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK AMY, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU, UH, IF YOUR QUESTION WAS ABOUT APPROVING THE MONEY OR APPROVING THE GUIDELINES, BUT THE MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED IT'S NOW IT'S BEEN SET ASIDE, IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED, IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AND NOW IT'S, STAFF'S TIME TO COME UP WITH THE ACTUAL PROGRAM GUIDELINES.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND THE MONEY.

HOW SHOULD, HOW SOON KELLY GET SMALL? YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

UM, MY, MY QUESTION AGAIN AND, AND IS, IS JUST, THERE'S SO MANY ACRONYMS AND THERE'S SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE SORT OF RATTLED OFF

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IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

AND WHEN I'M ASKED BY THE COMMUNITY WILL, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE AND SET ASIDE, IT'S HARD TO COBBLE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS TOGETHER.

SO IS THERE A PLACE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE THAT LISTS LIKE, HERE'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED? HERE'S WHAT'S COMING UP.

HERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT WHO CAN APPLY HERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I JUST THERE'S GREAT WORK HAPPENING AND LIKE, BUT YOU ALSO SAID IT VERY PLAINLY IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO TOUCH EVERYBODY, BUT AT LEAST TO SHOW PEOPLE, HERE'S WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

AND HERE'S WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO ME, JUST BEING IN ONE PLACE TO WHERE I CAN DIGEST THIS.

CAUSE I CAN'T DO IT WHEN IT'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, MONTHS PASS AND NIGHT HERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DISASTER AND SAVES AND C-SAT APAP AND WHATEVER ELSE.

BUT, SO I WILL ACTUALLY TALK TO OUR PIO MANAGER BECAUSE WE UPDATE COUNCIL BY WEEKLY ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED, ALL THE PROGRAMS AND WHAT'S GONE OUT THE DOOR AND IT'S A GOOD SUMMARY OF CHART.

SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THAT, UH, UPLOADED ON OUR ATX RECOVERS.

NOW ATX RECOVERS.COM HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

IT HAS OUR DASHBOARD.

IT SHOWS YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLY.

IT SHOWS WHO WAS AWARDED IT, BREAKS IT DOWN BY DISTRICT AND BREAKS IT DOWN BY JIM.

THERE ARE, WE HAVE A FABULOUS, I MEAN, OTHER CITIES, OUR TIME THAT PEOPLE PAY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, BUT OUR DASHBOARDS ARE FABULOUS AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRILL DOWN INTO ALL KINDS OF DATA, BUT YEAH, I WILL TRY TO GET THAT MEMO.

UM, THE LAST ONE OF THEM, VERY GOOD SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD DONE, HOW MANY WE'VE HELD, ET CETERA, BUT LET ME WORK THROUGH THAT.

AND THERE WAS A ONE PAGER THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY LAURA ODEGAARD ON, UH, THE RELIEF THAT WE'VE OFFERED TWO CREATIVES ONLY, AND THAT WAS IN THE COMMISSION'S BACKUP.

OKAY.

SO LET ME KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T GET IT OR IF ME, IF YOU NEED ME TO RESET AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.

OKAY.

WE WANT TO UPLOAD TO THE SITE AS WELL.

AND I'LL TALK TO US AGAIN.

WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UM, CAUSE I'D ASKED MEGAN ABOUT THIS WAS THE, THE MONEY, THE TOT MONEY THAT WAS BEING TARGETED FOR SOME, UM, SOME OTHER USES THAT, UM, I GUESS ARE ALLOWABLE, BUT I, MY CONCERN WAS WHERE THOSE WERE GETTING PULLED FROM, AND I GUESS THEY'RE GETTING PULLED FROM VISITORS AND COMMISSION OR VISITORS AND CONVENTION BUREAU, OR SO JUST WONDERING WHAT WAS THAT? YEAH, THAT ITEM WAS, UH, POEM.

SO THAT WAS ITEM LAST WEEK ABOUT THE VISITOR CENTER.

AND SO THAT ITEM WAS POSTPONED AND IT WOULD NOT, AND IT WAS CLEARLY ARTICULATED IN THE MINUTES THAT HOLD HARMLESS, HERITAGE AND ART AND MUSIC.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

FANTE, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA OF THE LEGACY BUSINESSES.

AND TO ME, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS TENDS TO FAVOR WHITE OWNED AND MAJORITY OWNED BUSINESSES RATHER THAN, UM, UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S THE ME, THAT'S AN OBVIOUS OLD BOYS NETWORK KIND OF SLOGAN.

UM, AND I I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF NOTES ON IT ON FACEBOOK AND I DON'T THINK THE OPTICS ARE REALLY GOOD, BUT I CARE LESS ABOUT THE OPTICS AND MORE ABOUT HOW THE MONEY GOES OUT.

AND I'M JUST HOPING THAT AS YOU WRITE THE, UM, UH, THE GUIDELINES THAT THERE CAN BE SOME SORT OF NEW BAY FOR, UM, BUSINESSES, MUSIC, VENUES, WHATEVER ARTS GROUPS THAT ARE LESS OLD, BUT NOT RUN BY WHITE PEOPLE.

UM, AS LIKE THIS IS, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE TRUE HONESTY IS IT'S ONLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AUSTIN HAS REALLY SEEN, UM, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE OLD GUARD ACTUALLY HAVING SUCCESS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.

AND I WILL DEFINITELY A LOT OF THIS WAS LIFTED FROM THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL APPROVED.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY THIS IS THE PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE TO COME BACK DEFINITELY ON THE 12TH.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY SEND THAT FEEDBACK BECAUSE AGAIN, STAFF IS DRAFTING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL APPROVES

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WHAT THEY WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE IN FINAL.

AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CONVEY THAT TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I HAVE THAT NOTED TOO.

SO AGAIN, THESE GUIDELINES ARE, ARE DEFINITELY APPROVED BY COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY HAVE DONE THE FRAMEWORK.

COUNCIL DID SOME TWEETS LAST WEEK.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, COUNCIL IS A PINING ON THE GUIDELINES AND I WOULD DEFINITELY CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER THAT I HAVE THAT NOTED TOO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU.

SO NOVIA.

YEAH.

UH, ONE MORE QUESTION TO RESPOND TO COMMISSION.

FINE.

TAKE THE EQUITY OFFICE ALSO IS REVIEWING, UM, THE GUIDELINES TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S AN EQUITY OVERLAY.

SO WE CAN'T MAKE A MOVE UNTIL THEY HAVE REVIEWED, UM, GUIDELINES TOO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ACTUALLY I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING, UM, NOT REALLY QUESTION, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR STAFF BRIEFINGS TODAY, UM, ARE ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING SINCE, UH, THE MAYOR'S OMNIBUS CAME OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, SISEP, THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YEARS AGO.

AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THEM COME INTO FRUITION, UH, NOT THE GREATEST YEAR TO SEE THEM COME OUT, BUT, UM, THEY'RE COMING OUT.

SO THANK YOU STAFF AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATES.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

OKAY.

AND I'M GOING TO HERE TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

TELL THEM HELLO AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

[5.a. Approve recommendation to support long term investment within the African American Cultural Heritage District ]

JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE MOVING ON, ON THE AGENDA AND WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION.

YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS FIVE A AND B UP BEFORE A NEW BUSINESS.

UH, I HAVE ANOTHER ENGAGEMENT A LITTLE LATER AND I MIGHT HAVE TO LEAVE THIS MEETING EARLY AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE TWO, UH, ITEMS. OKAY.

PROMOTION BY FLORES TO MOVE FIVE A AND FIVE B UH, IN FRONT OF A NEW BUSINESS, SECONDED BY POLGAR E R ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED ABSTENTIONS THEY'RE PASSING UNANIMOUSLY.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE UP A OLD BUSINESS.

APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT LONGTERM INVESTMENT WITHIN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT.

UM, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS PROVIDED OR THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATION WAS PROVIDED AND BACKED UP.

HOPEFULLY Y'ALL READ IT.

UM, THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER FLORES.

OH, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, LAY OUT THAT COMMISSIONER POLGAR AND I MET, UH, WITH HAROLD MCMILLIAN, UH, REGARDING, UH, THE REQUEST THAT THEY HAD MADE FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND, UH, SO WE MET AND DISCUSSED, UM, WHAT IT WAS, UH, WE COULD, UM, PUT FORTH BY THE COMMISSION, AS YOU RECALL.

IT WAS A VERY, VERY LENGTHY LIST THAT HE HAD, AND IT ALSO HAD SOME REFERENCES TO, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT I FELT I FELT AT THE TIME COULD BE CONSTRUED AS US, YOU KNOW, TAKING A POSITION ON PROJECTS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THE $12 MILLION, UH, CREATIVE ON MONEY.

SO RATHER THAN GO THAT ROUTE, WE, WE MADE A VERY GENERAL, UM, RESOLUTION THAT DOES SUPPORT THE, UH, UH, AND URGES COUNCIL ENCOURAGES COUNCIL TO RECOMMIT TO THE, UH, RE UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT AND TO, UH, BE COMMITTED TO PERHAPS SAVING SOME OF THE REMAINING PROPERTIES IN, IN THAT AREA, UH, THAT, AND HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, PRESERVED AS CULTURAL HERITAGE PROPERTIES, UH, FOR RE REDEVELOPMENT, FOR PURPOSES OF, UH, YOU KNOW, AND IN SUPPORT OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND, AND, UH, HE STOPPED.

AND SO I HOPE YOU ALL DID ALL THE CHANCE TO READ IT.

AND I DO WANT TO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IT HAD SOME LANGUAGE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER PAUL GUY, AND I, UM, I WANTED TO FIT IN, BUT WE DECIDED WE MIGHT WANT TO LEAVE THAT, UH, THAT LEVEL OF DETAILED, UH, TO, TO THE YEAR TWO, WHETHER YOU ALL PREFER HAROLD WOULD PREFER THAT WE INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE IF POSSIBLE.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, TO BRING

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THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.

AND SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE BEFORE DISCUSSION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THAT RESOLUTION, UH, WITH THE, UH, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT'S THERE IN THE GREEN.

UH, AND I WOULD LOVE A SECOND ON THAT AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT MOTION BY FLORES TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION WITH, UM, THE LANGUAGE THAT'S INCLUDED.

IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY POLGAR? YEAH, I'LL GIVE A SECOND SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, I WAS THE ONE THAT SORT OF SAID, MAYBE WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES GOING BACK TO WHAT CHAIR KOSTIA SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

UM, WELL, TWO THINGS.

ONE WAS WHAT I RECALLED HEARING THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER WAS THAT WE WANTED TO SORT OF GO TO THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL AND BROADLY SUPPORT THE PROPOSAL THAT HAROLD HAD PUT FORWARD, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF DICTATING EXACTLY HOW AND WHEN AND WHY THAT DOES FUNDS WOULD BE USED.

AND IN WHAT WAY, UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, HAROLD HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN SUPPORT OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THE LIST THAT HE PUT AT THE, THE INCLUDED IN HIS RESOLUTION IS SIGNIFICANT AND, AND THOUGHT OUT AND RESEARCHED, UM, AND IMPORTANT.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THAT INFORMATION AT OUR BECK AND CALL MY QUESTION AS A COMMISSIONER WAS WHAT IS OUR STANDING IN THIS CONVERSATION? WHAT CAN WE RECOMMEND AND HOW SPECIFIC DO WE WANT TO GET? BECAUSE I HEARD REALLY CLEARLY IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE BELIEVE THIS IS IMPORTANT.

AND WE THINK THE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT HAROLD'S PROJECT.

UM, BUT I WASN'T SURE WE WANTED TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OF EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY MANAGER NEEDED TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT.

BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT LIST THAT I FEEL IN ANY WAY CONCERNED ABOUT.

I JUST WOULD, MY QUESTION WAS STANDING.

SO WE WANTED TO PUT IT ALL OUT THERE FOR THIS BODY TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS.

YEAH.

I HAVE LOTS OF THOUGHTS ON THIS, BUT I ACTUALLY, UH, WILL SAY THAT I PREFER THE LANGUAGE IN, BECAUSE TO ME, I WOULD RATHER US SPECIFY WHAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING RATHER THAN HAVE IT BE OPEN-ENDED.

AND JUST SAY THAT WE'RE GENERALLY SUPPORTING EVERY FACT.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT MY POSITION ON, UM, CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN GENERAL IS VERY NEGATIVE.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM.

AND I THINK THEY DRIVE PEOPLE TO CERTAIN AREAS OF DOWNTOWN AND NOT OTHER AREAS OF DOWNTOWN, UH, I E DISTRICT SIX.

UM, BUT SINCE THIS CULTURAL DISTRICT ALREADY EXISTS AND SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD IDEAS FOR WHAT TO DO WITH IT, UH, I AM DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF, OF SUPPORTING IT WITH ALL THE SPECIFICITY, UM, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT GIVES MORE WEIGHT BEHIND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, AND IF WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT SOMETHING, WE MIGHT AS WELL COMPLETELY.

YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING WE BELIEVE IN THIS, THEN, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO NOT DO IT.

AND I READ ALL THOSE THINGS VERY SPECIFICALLY TO MAKE SURE I COULD GET BEHIND EACH ONE OF THOSE POINTS.

UM, AND I, AND I DO THINK THAT THE THERE'S NOTHING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ANY OF THOSE POINTS.

SO I GUESS I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND IT AND IF I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND IT AND I HATE CULTURAL DISTRICTS, I THINK, YEAH.

YOU ALSO DID AGREE TO IT.

COMMISSIONER MUCK.

YES.

I READ IT VERY THOROUGHLY AND I REALLY LIKED THE SPECIFIC, UH, THE SPECIFICS, BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEE IT HAPPENED, UH, IS THAT OF, I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE, TO, UM, TO ALLOCATE THOSE PROPERTY, DO WE SERVE THOSE PROPERTIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? YEAH.

THAT SPECIFIC, UM, UH, AREA, UH, YEAH, I, I LIKE TO HAVE AS MUCH AS SPECIFIC ITEMS AS POSSIBLE.

AND PLUS, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BASICALLY SUPPORTING THE AFRICAN AMERICAN, UM, LEADERS WHO HAVE ALREADY DONE SO MUCH WORK TO LIST OUT ALL THESE ITEMS. UM, SO I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY GIVE IT THE MOST HEAVY WEIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, MR. POLGAR.

SO, AND JUST TO REMIND HER TOO, THAT, UM, HELLBENT MELLON HAS GONE TO A NUMBER OF OTHER COMMISSIONS AND THEY'VE SUPPORTED IN FULL ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE US.

AND ALSO REMINDER JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT WE SAID, WE STOPPED SHORT OF THAT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS ABOUT AUNTIE LOBBYING AND WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T THROWING OUR FULL WEIGHT BEHIND A SPECIFIC USE FOR THE BOND PROJECT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER COMMISSIONER FLORES.

YES.

AND I'LL RE I'LL ALSO

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REMIND YOU THAT THERE IS NO MENTION OF ANY USE OF FUNDS FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT.

AND WE, UH, OBVIOUSLY ASKED THE COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER TO, TO COME UP WITH SOME, SOME PLANS FOR THAT, BUT WE DO ASK THAT THEY PRESERVE THOSE AS CULTURAL HERITAGE PROPERTIES SO THAT THEY CAN BE REDEVELOPED FOR, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO RECOGNIZE THE HERITAGE, UH, OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.

AND SO, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER, UM, COMMISSIONER PAUL GUARD, LIKE, UM, WHEN, UH, MR. MCMILLAN PRESENTED LAST MONTH, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK PUT INTO THIS THAT, THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, TO DRAFT UP THAT, THAT RESOLUTION IN, IN ACTUAL, HOW DID HE SAY IN LEGALEES? UM, BUT I REALLY WANT TO EXTEND MY THANKS TO COMMISSIONER FLORES BECAUSE OUR, I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION IS MUCH EASIER TO READ MUCH MORE LEGIBLE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, CAUSE IT, IT JUST MAKES IT CLEAR WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING, UM, OR WILL SUPPORT IF IT PASSES.

HE'S HAPPY WITH IT.

I HAVE TO SAY I DID REACH OUT TO HIM AFTER AND FORWARDED IT TO THEM AND HE WAS GRATEFUL AND THANKED US FOR, UH, FOR CONSIDERING IT.

YEAH.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, IF NOT, WE'RE IN A, UM, CALLED THE VOTE.

UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION WAS TO, UH, PASS THE RECOMMENDATION WITH THE LANGUAGE INCLUDED ALL IN FAVOR.

OH, THAT'S YEAH.

THAT'S UNIT UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

PASSES.

THANK YOU AGAIN, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER POLGAR FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.

UM,

[5.b. Art in Public Places ]

SO MOVING ON TO FIVE B UH, THE AA PART IN PUBLIC PLACES APPROVING THE REVISIONS TO THE ARTICLE.

WE PLACES ORDINANCE GUIDELINES WAS PRESENTED LAST, OR THAT WAS PROVIDED LAST MONTH IN OUR BACKUP.

AND IT WAS PROVIDED AGAIN, THIS, THIS MONTH, UM, COMMISSIONER FLORES, UM, WHEN THE, WHEN IT'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME, I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND A POSSIBLE SMALL, VERY SMALL AMENDMENT TO THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT I'LL SHARE AND, UH, IT'S NOT A BIG ONE, BUT I, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME.

UH, SO, UM, I WILL, I WILL DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU MIND INTRODUCING IT? SURE.

THIS IS, UM, THIS IS SUE LAMB.

I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, PROGRAM ARTS DIVISION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UM, I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES, SOME VERY SIMPLE SLIDES THAT JUST SORT OF TALK ABOUT THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL, BUT I WANTED TO GET A SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A GOOD USE OF YOUR TIME.

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT INTRODUCTION OR WOULD YOU JUST RATHER GET RIGHT INTO CONVERSATION? UM, SUCH AS MS. FLORES WAS JUST, UM, REMARKING ON AND I JUST SEE AS SOON AS YOU ALREADY PREPARED IT, SO LET'S SEE IT.

OKAY.

UM, IF, IF CITY HALL COULD PULL UP MY SLIDES THAT SAY, UM, AIPP ORDINANCE GUIDELINE REVISIONS, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND SHARE THOSE.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO BRIEFLY OVER LIKE WHY THE REVISIONS ARE NEEDED.

UM, THE ACCORD, THE GUIDELINES HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, UPDATED AND S SINCE 2004, THEY STILL REFERENCED THE OLD NAME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, THEIR REFERENCES SLIDE REGISTRY, WHICH WE HAVEN'T USED SINCE 2015.

WE NEED THE GUIDELINES TO REFLECT, UM, THE EXPECTATIONS ON THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM IN PLACE TODAY, INCLUDING THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, COMMITMENT TO EQUITY.

WE NEED THE GUIDELINES TO REFLECT THE CURRENT PROCESSES FOR COMPLETING AN ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, PROJECT, AND TO HELP THE PROGRAM ACCOMPLISH THE WORK THAT MAKES SENSE TODAY.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, LAST DECEMBER THERE AREN'T IN PUBLIC PLACES, UH, GUIDELINES.

OUR REVIEW WORKING GROUP WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE PANEL AND IT INCLUDED A PANEL CHAIR, CHRIS MCCRAE, CURRENT, UH, PANEL VICE-CHAIR JACOB VILLANOVA AND, UM, PANEL MEMBER SARAH CARR.

THE WORKING GROUP WAS CHARGED WITH REVIEWING THE GUIDELINES AND PROPOSING REVISIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF LONG MEETINGS, UM, IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN MORE WORK HAPPENED UNDER COVID RESTRICTIONS FROM HOME.

THE GUIDELINES WORKING GROUP PRESENTED THEIR WORK TO THE AIPP PANEL IN JUNE, WHO THEN SPENT

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TIME IN FIVE DIFFERENT PUBLICLY ADVERTISED MEETINGS, DISCUSSING AND EDITING THE DOCUMENT ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.

THE AD COULD BE PANEL DETERMINED THAT THE RIVER REVISIONS WERE COMPLETE AND READY FOR ARTS COMMISSION CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL.

NEXT SLIDE, REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF THE REVISIONS YOU RECEIVED THE EXISTING GUIDELINES AND THE PROPOSED REVISIONS, UM, IN, IN YOUR BACKUP AS WELL AS A RED LINE VERSION, SO THAT YOU COULD PREPARE, YOU COULD COMPARE THE EDITS OR REVISIONS FOCUS ON READABILITY.

SO THIS DOCUMENT IS MORE EASILY UNDERSTOOD THROUGH SIMPLIFIED LANGUAGE.

IT UPDATED REFERENCES SUCH AS THE NAME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT UPDATES TO THE LAYOUT TO FIX ISSUES SUCH AS THE FACT THAT THE DEFINITION SECTION WAS NOT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, SORT OF SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT, AND BREAKING DOWN LONG PARAGRAPHS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL 2004 VERSION INTO SECTIONS AND SUBSECTIONS.

SO THEY'RE EITHER EASIER TO READ AND TO REFERENCE WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED.

UM, IN ADDITION, THE LANGUAGE, UH, REGARDING EQUITY IS LACED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT NOW, AND THE PROCESS UPDATES, INCLUDING REMOVING REFERENCES TO THE SLIDE REGISTRY AND ADDING PRE-QUALIFIED ARTISTS POOL AS A SELECTION TOOL, WHICH WASN'T THERE BEFORE.

AND THE PROGRAM GOALS ARE REVISED UNDER SECTION TWO, WHICH IS THE PROGRAM INTENT, AND THEY'VE BEEN REWRITTEN TO UPDATE THEM TO BE CURRENT WITH PPS, UM, PROGRAM GOALS AS THEY ARE TODAY.

SO, UM, THESE WERE APPROVED BY THE AIPP PANEL ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, AND THEY'RE UP FOR APPROVAL TODAY FROM YOU ALL.

AND WE DO EXPECT TO BE BRINGING THESE FORWARD TO YOU.

COULD YOU ADVANCE THE SLIDE PLEASE? SO YOU DO EXPECT TO BE BRINGING THESE FORWARD TO, UM, POTENTIALLY EVERY TWO YEARS FOR UPDATES FROM HERE ON OUT.

UM, SO THAT'S THE, JUST THE SHORT OVERVIEW OF, UM, THE GUIDELINES REVISIONS.

UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS OR PERHAPS WE COULD MOVE ON TO, UM, SPECIFIC ISSUES, UH, SUCH AS, UM, COMMISSION MEMBER, UM, FLORES AS, YES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO YOU.

SO, AND THE AIPP PANEL FOR, AND THE WORKING GROUP FOR DOING ALL THAT WORK.

IT'S A LOT OF CLEANUP AND I'M 99% HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN DONE.

THAT'S USED, AS YOU MENTIONED, ALL THE THINGS IT HASN'T BEEN DONE SINCE 2004, AND A LOT OF THINGS NEEDED MODERNIZING AND REVISING AND STREAMLINING AND THE LANGUAGE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TENTS AND ALL THAT.

SO IT WAS A LOT OF CLEANUP AND A LOT OF GREAT WORK.

I HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE AREA WHERE I HAVE A SPECIFIC ISSUE AND I'M GOING TO JUST BRING IT UP.

IT'S IT'S FROM MY LEGAL BACKGROUND AND IT'S, UH, REGARDING, UH, IN THE DEFINITIONS.

UH, I, I, THE SECTION THREE IS, ARE THE DEFINITIONS.

AND, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ARE NOT IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER CAUSE YOU PUT ON WITH THE COMMISSION BELOW ARTS AND PUBLIC PLACES.

SO I THINK ARTS COMMISSION NEEDS TO COME BACK UP TO A B THE FIRST, BECAUSE SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT REVISE, I MEAN THAT IMPLEMENT THE GUIDELINES AND CREATE THE GUIDELINES, UM, UH, AND CHARGED WITH DOING THAT BY THE, THE ORDINANCE.

CAUSE I WENT BACK AND READ THE ORDINANCE.

SO I COULD BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT I'M SAYING TODAY.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE MINOR REVISION TO MOVE THEM BACK TO EQUITY AND PUT THE OTHER TWO AS BNC.

AND THEN IMPORTANTLY THOUGH THE DEFINITION, UH, THE AIPP PANEL, UH, WHICH WAS THE NEW WAY, BUT TO BE ME, UM, I WOULD ACTUALLY PREFER TO LEAVE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THAT SAYS, UH, WITH THE WORDS THAT SAY THAT THEY ARE ADVISING THE COMMISSION ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AI PVD ORDINANCE, AS OPPOSED TO CHANGING IT TO.

AND I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT TO LEAVE THE SCREEN WITH Y'ALLS FACES IN IT BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO FIND IT AND READ IT.

UM, THE REVISION SAYS A YEAR REVISION.

SO THE STANDING COMMITTEE, UH, THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PANELS THE STANDING COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS APPOINTED BY THE ARTS COMMISSION, RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSIGHT OF MATTERS RELATED TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES ORDINANCE.

AND I HAVE A, AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE WORD THAT THEY ARE HAVING OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE GIVES THAT CREATES THE PANEL AND SAYS THEY ARE TO ADVISE THE ARTS COMMISSION.

AND I WOULD PREFER THE OLD LANGUAGE THAT WAS THERE, THAT STATES THAT THEY ARE THERE FOR, UH, ADVISING THE COMMISSION ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE AIPP ORDINANCE.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO IT BY DEFINITION.

AND I DID SPEAK TO AN ATTORNEY.

MYSELF, SISTER IS A 30 YEAR, UM, A CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY OF LAGRANGE.

I PICKED HER BRAIN TODAY

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AND YOU CANNOT NECESSARILY, I FEEL THAT, THAT THE CHANGE IS GIVING ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY TO THE AIP PANEL, WHICH SAYS OVERSIGHT WHERE, WHICH IS NOT GIVEN UNDER THE, IN THE ORDINANCE.

I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IN THE DEFINITIONAL SECTION, IF YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE A CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE OR EVEN IN THE, UH, SECTION FIVE WHERE IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE PURPOSE IS AND THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE PANEL AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

SO I REALLY FEEL THAT THE ARTS COMMISSION IS THE ONE THAT HAS OVERSIGHT OVER THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GUIDELINES PER THE ORDINANCE.

AND I THINK LEAVING THE OLD LANGUAGE IN THAT DEFINITION IS, UH, IS, IS BETTER THAN DOING THE OTHER BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE EXPANDING THE AUTHORITY OR THAT COULD CREATE CONFUSION.

AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT.

IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.

WHAT'S WITH SECTION FIVE WHERE IT LAYS OUT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ROLE AND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MOCK.

YES, WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE A LEGAL PROFESSIONAL COMMISSION.

I AGREE.

I MEAN, WE CANNOT CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, UM, WITH THE DEFINITION BECAUSE THEN IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE LIKE CROSSING THE LINE.

SO I'M SUPPORT COMMISSIONER, UM, FAR AS, UH, OBSERVATION, AND I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THE SAME.

THANK YOU.

SWEET.

SHOULD WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE SO WE CAN DISCUSS THOROUGHLY INSTEAD OF I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO, UM, TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE.

AND I JUST CONFUSED THERE BECAUSE IT'S UNDER THE DEFINITION OF ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL.

I WOULD LIKE THE OLD LANGUAGE THAT WAS STRICKEN TO REMAIN, UH, AND LEAVE THAT LANGUAGE AS IS I'LL SECOND MOTION BY FLORES TO APPROVE THE AIPP GUIDELINE REVISIONS, UM, EXCEPT FOR, UM, THE TWO SMALL EDITS DEFINED BY COMMISSIONER FLORES, SORRY.

AND YOU GET ME THE STANDING COMMITTEE OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

THAT IS OKAY.

I JUST MEAN THE ADVISING, THE COMMISSION ON, ON MATTERS RELATING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.

I WOULD LIKE THAT LANGUAGE TO STAY IN AND NOT INTO THE WORD OVERSIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO THE TERM ADVISING TO KEEP THE TERM ADVISING INSTEAD OF OVERSIGHT OF, UM, AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY MOC COMMISSIONER POLVAR HI.

SO, UM, AND, AND NOT, UM, THIS IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LET DONNA AGREE WITH YOU.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, BECAUSE THE WORD OVERSIGHT WAS CHOSEN SPECIFICALLY BY THE GROUP THAT, THAT REVISED THE GUIDELINES AND CAME FORWARD FROM AIPP.

SO I'M INTERESTED, SUE AND BRETT, MAYBE YOU CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THIS ON IN TERMS OF JUST WHAT THE INTENT WAS WITH THAT CHOICE, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SPEAK TO A 10 BY SEVEN PEOPLE.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE WERE, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY BETWEEN THE ROLE OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES PANEL AND THE ARTS COMMISSION.

AND MAYBE, UM, TRYING TO JUST, UM, JUST CLARIFY THOSE LINES, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO BODIES.

UM, BRETT, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? THAT'S VERY TRUE.

SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, I THINK THAT'S A VERY TRUE, UM, UNDERSTANDING.

I THINK IT JUST GOES BACK TO THE AGE OLD QUESTION THAT MANY OF US HAVE STRUGGLED WITH OVER THE YEARS IS WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION? IT IS, IT RELATES TO ART IN PUBLIC PLACES.

UM, AND IF IT'S FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURE THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND APPROVED BY, BY THE ARTS COMMISSION, UM, THEN WHEN IT GETS TO YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY? AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE BIT OF FRUSTRATION HAS EMERGED IS THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY PUT INTO THAT.

AND, UM, AT TIMES IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THOSE ARE SUBJECTIVE, UM, QUALITIES, LIKE I DON'T LIKE THAT ARTWORK OR THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT THE MEANING OF WHAT WAS SAID, WHICH AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S EVERYBODY'S OPINION, BUT THAT'S WHERE SORT OF THEY TAKEN THE TIME AND ENERGY AND REALLY THE OVERSIGHT OF THE ARTWORK FROM THE BEGINNING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ADHERING

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TO THE POLICIES AND THE PROCEDURES.

AND THAT'S WHERE I DON'T THINK THEY ARE DISAGREEING THAT YOU ALL HAVE, THAT WE ALL HAVE, UM, HAVE A RIGHT TO REVIEW AND TO DO ALL OF THAT.

BUT THEY ARE ASKED TO BE VOLUNTEERS BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERTISE IN, IN THAT REALM.

SO IT GOES, I LIKE IT, OR I DON'T LIKE IT COMMISSIONER FANTE, UH, YEAH, I THINK IT'S OVERSTEPPING.

I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST.

UH, TO ME, UH, THE ARTS COMMISSION IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE VOTED ON BY, UH, THE GENERAL POPULATION AND THE AIPP, UH, IS NOT SO, UH, AND THEY MAY BE SUBJECT MATTERS IN, IN, THEY MAY BE SUBJECT EXPERTS IN ARTS, BUT WE ARE SUPPOSEDLY SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN POLICY, AT LEAST FOR ARTS POLICY.

AND SO IT IS OUR JOB TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT HOW THEY ARE INTERPRETED THE WORDS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT, IT, UM, CONFLICTS OR SUPPORTS THE WORDS THAT WERE SET OUT IN THE, IN THE DESCRIPTION.

SO I STRONGLY AGREE WITH LULU.

UM, I THINK THAT THEY IPP DOES GREAT WORK, BUT I THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO OVERSEE THEM.

AND IF NOT, THEN WHY DO WE VOTE ON THINGS? YOU KNOW, LIKE IF IT'S GOING TO BE ITS OWN COMMISSION, THEN IT SHOULD BE ITS OWN COMMISSION AND SHOULD BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS.

SO, UM, WE HAVE TO, EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH US.

SO WE'RE PROVING IT.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I HAVE A DIFFERENT ISSUE.

I WANT TO BRING UP WITH, UM, THE, THE THING.

SO I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THE GUIDELINES WITH, OR WITHOUT LULUS CHANGE BECAUSE I HAVE A DIFFERENT THING.

SO THAT, SO THAT'S, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT A VOTE ON ITS OWN.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE'LL, WE'LL COME BACK TO ANOTHER POINT.

I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ABOUT THE GUIDELINES THAT IS UNRELATED TO THIS.

SO, SO I WOULD BE INCLINED TO VOTE FOR COMMISSIONER FLORES HAS CHANGED, BUT NOT FOR THE WHOLE GUIDELINES AS IS.

SO AS, AS, AS, AS MOTIONS RIGHT NOW, IF I WERE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER FLORES HIS MOTION, I WOULD ALSO BE IN VOTING IN FAVOR OF THE GUIDELINES, WHICH I'M NOT READY TO DO YET.

OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD A COMMISSION FLORIST.

ALRIGHT.

UH, I'M WILLING TO CHANGE THE MOTION TO JUST SAY, CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, UH, FOR THAT AND HAVE A SEPARATE VOTE ON THE OVERALL APPROVAL.

UH, MY MOTION IS TO AMEND THAT SECTION FOR THE REASONS STATED.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WHEN THE COUNCIL CREATED IT, THEY, THEY, THEY MADE IT AN ADVISORY STANDING COMMITTEE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION AND THE ARTS COMMISSION APPOINTED AND PROCESS IS AS, AS, AS REBECCA HAS STATED, IS THAT THEY BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.

THEY ARE RECOMMENDING BODY THERE ADVISE US, BUT WE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF THE, OF THE GUIDELINES AND ALSO THE IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM.

SO WE DO AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FINAL SAY, AND THAT HAPPENS TO US ON A LOT OF THINGS.

WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ALL THE TIME AND THEY CAN THROW THEM OUT ANYTIME THEY WANT.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DO, AND I DON'T WANT US TO BE APPRECIATED.

I VALUE THE WORK THAT THE IPP PANEL DOES.

THERE THEY ARE.

THE EXPERTS THEY GIVE IS GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PICKED IT APART TO DEATH AND WE ASKED THEM SOME CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WERE APPOINTED HERE.

AND THAT'S, OUR JOB IS TO LOOK OVER THINGS.

AND I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, DISASSEMBLE EVERYTHING, BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO WEIGH IN AND WE HAVE THE OP THE OBLIGATION TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE WE ARE APPOINTED, UH, TO DO THAT JOB.

AND THEY ARE APPOINTED BY US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US.

AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE FRUSTRATION BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATURE OF HOOK COMMITTEE.

IT IS NOT A, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AND IN OF ITSELF, IT HAS NOT BEEN THAT KIND OF AUTHORITY THROUGH THE ORDINANCE.

AND SO I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD EXPAND THAT BY DEFINITION.

I'M NOT GONNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO JUST SAY, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE DISCUSSION GOES ON FORWARD ON THE AIP P UH, WHAT'S HIS GUIDELINES.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THIS CHANGE IS MADE AND THAT'S MY MOTION BECAUSE OF OTHER REASONS.

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OKAY.

SO WE'RE UPDATING THE, THE MOTION TO BE, UH, AMENDING THE LANGUAGE, UH, IN THE DEFINITIONS, UH, REGARDING THE, THE, THE TERM ADVISING, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S, IT READS ADVISING AND THAT A AND B ARE SWAPPED, UM, AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY MARK COMMISSIONER PULVER.

SO, SO, UM, I, I'M HEARING A DEEPER ISSUE AND A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE A COUPLE OF TIMES, THEN WE SORT OF GET SIDETRACKED IN THEM AND IT COMES BACK.

UM, AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT THE IEP PANEL, NO, AND THE NPP STAFF NOW, HOW INCREDIBLY VALUABLE THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS, AND HOW, HOW WE RECOGNIZE THE QUALITY OF IT AND THE CONTENT OF IT AND THE DEPTH AND THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT.

UM, AND, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AS A COMMISSION ARE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE KIND OF WORK THAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT LEVEL.

AND I, AND A COMMISSIONER FLORES JUST SAID, AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT, THAT I THINK IS THIS VITALLY IMPORTANT? AND THE CURATED COLLECTION THAT WE HAVE IN AUSTIN IS EXTRAORDINARY.

AND THE WORK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I THINK FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION, WHEREVER WE END UP WITH THE LANGUAGE, THERE'S A CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE WITH OUR AIP PANELISTS AND WITH OUR STAFF, BECAUSE WE ARE, BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S A MISALIGNMENT OR MISCOMMUNICATION OR LACK OF CLARITY THAT WE NEED TO RESOLVE.

IT'S GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BARNES, AND COMMISSIONER MUCK.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, VICE CHAIR, UM, I'LL BE VERY HONEST THAT I, I, YES, I WON'T SPEAK, I WILL MAYBE GENERAL SENTIMENT IS THAT THERE IS A FEELING OF THE PANEL THAT THERE IS A MISTRUST COMING FROM THE ARTS COMMISSION OF THEIR WORK AND THAT, UM, THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS VALUED THE TIME AND ENERGY, YOU KNOW, ON SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE PUT IN TO WHAT THEY DO.

CAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN HAD A CONVERSATION OF, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COMMISSIONER EITHER COMES AND VISITS A SESSION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY THE DISCUSSIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

AND I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU EITHER HAVE EITHER BEEN ON IT OR BEEN A PART OF THAT, OR MAYBE ME STEPPING DOWN AND APPOINTING SOMEBODY ELSE SO THAT SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF, OF WHAT GOES INTO IT.

I GUESS JUST THE CONFUSION OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PERSPECTIVE THAT'S DRAWN UP ARTS COMMISSION APPROVES THE PERSPECTIVES AND THE PANEL MEMBERS, THEN THERE'S A MID DESIGN AND THAT DOESN'T COME BACK TO Y'ALL, BUT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE, WELL, MAYBE MINT DESIGN SHOULD COME BACK TO Y'ALL BECAUSE IF IT GETS TO THE VERY END AND YOU DON'T LIKE IT, THEN THERE'S A CHANCE THAT ALL OF THAT GETS SCRAPPED AND WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE PERSPECTIVES THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY EVERYBODY.

SO I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, OF, UM, AREA THAT NEEDS TO PROBABLY HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND IT.

UM, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLEAR THIS, THIS MOTION FIRST, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS, IT IS NOT A, UM, UH, I THINK THAT THE NARRATIVE FOR THIS MOTION IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE OF AIPP COMMITTEES.

UH, RESPONSIBILITIES IS SO, UM, AND I KNOW FROM ALL TIERS YEARS THAT I HAVE SET UP ON THIS COMMISSION, I, WE RARELY REJECT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM AIPP.

I PERSONALLY ALWAYS SUPPORT THEM.

AND ACTUALLY I WAS MAD AT SOME STAFF MEMBER FROM CITY THAT THEY ARTIFICIALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, GO BACK, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO THE OPINIONS OF THE AIPP COMMITTEE.

UH, YOU KNOW, SO, SO, SO AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.

UM, WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE CLARITY, UH, WITH THE AIP COMMITTEE OR NOT, BUT I THINK THIS MOTION IS ABOUT FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE OF WHAT AIP B COMMITTEE IS ABOUT.

SO THE LANGUAGE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, UH, PROPOSED, UM, NEED TO BE, NEED TO STAY THE SAME SO THAT WE WILL BE FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE ON THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES.

SO CAN WE JUST, UH, VOTE ON THIS AND THEN

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MOVE ON TO OTHER DISCUSSION SO THAT WE ARE NOT CLOUDING? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT LET'S CALL THE VOTE ON THIS LET'S LET'S, UH, ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE HAVE THIS OTHER CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO OCCUR.

WE'RE CALLING THE VOTE ON, UM, MAINTAINING THE TERM, ADVISING THE COMMISSION, UM, IN THE LANGUAGE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR, MARK KEATON FANTE DIZMAN, UH, AND W VANDYKE, THOSE OPPONENTS BARNS, ABSTENTIONS HOLDER.

UM, SO IT PASSES, UM, RIGHT.

ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.

YEAH.

UM, OKAY.

UH, SO WE COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER POLAR AND TREVOR JUST REAL QUICK.

SO, UM, LEE LANGUAGE ASIDE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM WE'VE GOT SMART TO DO.

OKAY.

FUTURE AGENDA, ITEM, COMMISSIONER FONTAINE.

DO YOU WANT TO REVISIT YOUR ISSUE? THANK YOU.

YES.

UM, UH, BEFORE I GO ON I'LL I JUST WANT TO SAY COMMISSIONER BARNS, YOU KNOW, I'M OFTEN BLUNT FOR THE, TO MAKE A POINT.

SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE AIPP WORK.

AND, AND I WILL SAY I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR FOUR YEARS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER US EVER SAYING NO TO ANYTHING ON THE BASIS OF ITS ARTISTIC, UH, SELECTION.

I ONLY REMEMBER, I MEAN, MY PERSONAL STINK WAS WHEN IT WAS A PANEL OF, UH, ARTISTS WHO ARE BROUGHT TO US BEFORE THEY HAD ACTUALLY DONE THE WORK.

AND IT WAS BASED ON THE MAKEUP OF THE PANEL NOT BEING REFLECTIVE OF AUSTIN.

SO THAT'S WHAT I, I REMEMBER IN TERMS OF HAVING A PERSONAL GREG.

AND SO THAT IS ACTUALLY WHERE I WANT TO GO RIGHT NOW WITH SOMETHING IN THESE.

UM, I DID REALLY THINK THAT A LOT OF GREAT WORK WAS DONE IN THIS, AND I DID LOVE THAT THERE WAS THE INCLUSION OF OUR STATEMENT OF EQUITY, UM, THAT, UH, THE AIPP COMMITMENT TO EQUITY THAT WAS INCLUDED, UM, FROM DECEMBER OF 2018.

UM, AND I REALLY LIKED THAT.

AND I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD THAT WE MENTIONED IN HERE, THE, UM, EQUITY, STRATEGIC ANCHOR, UM, FROM THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION, 2023, UM, WHICH SAYS THAT WAS A PRIMARY PREDICTOR OF OUTCOMES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO I'M, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING CHANGING THAT.

MY PROBLEM IS THAT LATER DOWN ON PAGE 11, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT JURY SELECTION, UH, IN TO SEE, UH, IT SAYS, UH, IN THE SECOND SENTENCE, THE RATE, THE JURY SHALL BE COMPOSED WITH THE LENS OF RACIAL EQUITY.

EVERY AUSTIN COMMUNITY IS REPRESENTED, AND IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

AND THEN AGAIN, UNDER, UH, THREE, UH, B THE JURY SHALL CONSIDER RACIAL EQUITY IN THE PROCESS OF ARTIST'S SELECTION.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY ONLY MENTIONED RACIAL EQUITY.

AND SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR SOME CLARITY AS IF WE'RE SAYING WE ARE NOT INTERESTED, THEY'RE IN A COMMITMENT TO THE FULL EQUITY, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED IN 2018 WITH OUR DEFINITION, WHICH INCLUDED, UM, LGBTQ AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SPECIAL, UM, DRAW SPECIAL ATTENTION TO LOOKING AT THINGS WITH THE RACIAL EQUITY LENS, BUT ARE WE NOT SAYING THAT THE JURY SHOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL EQUITY, UH, CANDIDATES AND THAT, THAT, THAT FORM OF EQUITY SHOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED WHEN MAKING SELECTIONS, BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S HOW IT READS.

AND I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, FEEDBACK FROM ME, I THINK THE CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED, UH, WAS MORE ABOUT, UH, RACIAL EQUITY, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS LEADING WITH.

AND THE INTENT IS THAT IF WE CAN SOLVE FOR RACIAL EQUITY, ALL EQUITY IS, UM, SERVED.

UM, IF WE CAN UNLOCK THAT ONE ISSUE.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S PHRASED THE WAY IT IS.

I GUESS I JUST, I SEE THE COMMITMENT TO RACIAL EQUITY, BUT THEN WHEN THERE'S SPECIFIC THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE TO SOLVE FOR THAT, AND IT, AND IT'S LEAVING OUT OTHER FACETS THAT WE BROUGHT UP IN OUR DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MEAN BY EQUITY.

IT DOES DRAW ATTENTION TO IT BY ITS ABSENCE.

AND THAT MAKES ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.

AND I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THAT RACIAL EQUITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THE EQUITY LENSES, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SOLVING ONE SOLVES THE OTHERS.

AND I THINK THAT IS JUST, IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

SO THANK YOU.

SO IS THERE

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AN, I GUESS THERE'S A QUESTION FOR BOTH COMMISSIONER FANTA AND FOR SU UM, SO IF THAT LANGUAGE WAS EXPANDED TO, TO READ SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS DEFINITION THAT WE HAD CREATED, DOES THAT LIMIT, UM, THE PRIORITIZATION OF RACIAL EQUITY IN YOUR, IN FOR AIPP USING THESE GUIDELINES? I WOULD EVEN SUGGEST YOU COULD SAY WITH THE W UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE IT SAYS, UM, I'M SORRY, I WANT TO GET THE EXACT ONE.

THE JURY SHALL BE COMPOSED WITH THE LENS OF EQUITY AND SPECIFICALLY, UH, WITH THE, WITH A SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON RACIAL EQUITY.

SO YOU CAN SAY BOTH, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

AND YOU CAN EVEN SAY, LOOK, RACIAL EQUITY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN SAY, WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT RACIAL EQUITY TO DECIDE OUR JURIES, AND WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT RACIAL EQUITY, IF WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS A DECIDING METHOD OF, TO WHICH THINGS GET PICKED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING IN THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW.

AND IS THAT SOMETHING SUE THAT IS COMMISSIONER BARNS? OH, SORRY.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS EASILY DISCOVERABLE OR IF WE'RE PUTTING A JURY TOGETHER, DO WE ASK, ARE YOU GAY? DO YOU HAVE A DISABILITY? AND ARE YOU BIPAP TALK? I'M JUST ASKING, LIKE, HOW DO WE GET THIS INFORMATION? UM, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES IT'S THROUGH FRIENDS, SO MAYBE THE FRIENDS KNOW THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCES OR THEY, THEY KNOW THEIR, THEIR ABILITIES OR, OR DISABILITIES, BUT I JUST, I'M WILLING TO MAKE SURE, LIKE, HOW WOULD WE BE ABLE TO LEGALLY AND QUANTIFIABLY DO THIS? CAUSE IF WE DON'T EVER GET ANYBODY HAS SAID I'M GAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEN WE'RE NOT HITTING THE MARK ON THIS.

UM, WE DO WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE, UM, SELECTION PANEL MEMBERS THAT WE, UM, ASK TO JOIN A JURY, WE DO SEND A, UH, DEMOGRAPHIC SURVEY, WHICH YOU, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO FILL OUT, OR THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FILL THAT OUT.

UM, AND THAT IS WHERE WE MIGHT GET INFORMATION ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.

UM, SO YEAH, SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL CALL ON YOU RIGHT

[4.a. Art In Public Places ]

NOW, COMMISSIONER ABANDON.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF THE TIME IT'S SEVEN 11.

UM, I WANTED TO GET A FEEL IF WE CAN MAYBE HANDLE THIS ITEM TONIGHT, OR IF WE NEED TO MAYBE CREATE A WORKING GROUP TO REALLY DIVE INTO THIS.

UM, BUT JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER EVENT, LIKE YOU'RE STILL MUTED.

OKAY.

AND IF YOU DON'T RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S COME LATE TO THIS PROCESS OR IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

UM, JUST FAR AS QUICK FEEDBACK, EQUITY ISSUES.

UM, I DID NOT SEE OR TAKE AWAY THAT THERE WAS A PRIORITY FOR RACE TO ME, THE WAY I TOOK WHAT WAS PRESENTED WAS THESE ARE ALL, MAYBE IT WAS EQUAL, UH, EQUITY GROUPS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

SO JUST FYI THAT NEVER GOT THE RACIAL WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ALL THE OTHER OF THE LIST.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER FLORES.

BUT IT DOES SAY, UH, WHERE COMMISSIONER FAULTY POINTED OUT AND THE SELECTION OF ARTISTS, IT ONLY SAYS THAT THEY WILL LOOK AT RACIAL EQUITY.

IT DOESN'T SAY THE ALL INCLUSIVE, YOU KNOW, AND I CAN'T RIGHT NOW THINK OF A WAY TO WORD IT, BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHAT IS THE CORRECT LANGUAGE TO USE TO BROADEN IT, UH, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING AS INCLUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

AND WHEN WE'RE SELECTING ARTISTS, MY CURRENT THERAPIST AND OF ALL DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND SELECTION PANELISTS AND SELECTING PANELISTS, I GUESS IT'S ON THAT TOO.

COMMISSIONER BURNS, I THINK OUT OF RESPECT THAT WE SHOULD SEND THIS BACK TO AIPP AND LET THEM KNOW SOME OF THESE CONCERNS OR WITH THESE CONCERNS

[01:30:01]

ARE, I MEAN, WE'VE WAITED SINCE 2004.

IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOT TO ROLL DOWN THE MOUNTAIN TODAY.

SO, UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE SHOW GOODWILL A AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE NEED A WORKING GROUP, UM, TO, TO DO THIS.

I MEAN, UM, SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION IS MAYBE TO TABLE THIS AND, AND SEND IT BACK TO AIPP SO THAT, UM, THEY CAN KNOW WHAT THE CHANGES WERE AND MAYBE THEY CAN WORD SMITH THAT, UM, IT FITS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO SEE MOTION TO TABLE BY BARNS, BUT KNOWING THAT, THAT LOSES SOME PIECES ALREADY PASSED.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CHANGE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED, RIGHT? THE SECONDARY BY FLORES, ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, CHRISTIAN FLORES, NOT AT ALL NEW BUSINESS, IF WE ARE, I WANTED TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO PUT THE AIPP, UH, THINGS ON CONSENT MOTION BY FLORES TO PUT, UH, AIPP ITEMS ON CONSENT, SECONDED BY FANTE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED OR, YEAH, ABSTENTIONS.

AND I WANT, I SEE COMMISSIONER KEATON.

I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND, BUT I JUST WANT THEM TO CURE IT WAS UP FOR I OKAY.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER POLLS ARE COMING TO THE FOREST MOTION TO PASS FOR A ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID.

THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID, RIGHT? SORRY.

WE GO

[4.b. Approve 2021 Arts Commission meeting schedule ]

THE OPTION OF THE CALENDAR, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM.

RIGHT.

AND THEN I'VE GOT TO RUN.

SO FLORES MAKES A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING SCHEDULE SECONDED BY POLVAR ALL IN FAVOR PASSES.

YEP.

PASA UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO,

[5.c. Working Group updates ]

UH, OLD BUSINESS, UH, C THE WORKING GROUP UPDATES, UH, SISEP JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC.

WE GOT AN UPDATE FROM STAFF, BUT, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING? NOPE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO SUNSET THIS? IS, CAN WE SUNSET IT OR IS THERE STILL CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN? LET ME DOUBLE CHECK WITH OUR PARTNERS ON MUSIC.

OKAY.

SO IT'LL STAY, UH, EQUITY RESOURCE WORKING GROUP, COMMISSIONER KEATON.

OH, WHO'S GOOD.

AT READING LIPS.

HELLO.

I JUST SENT AN EMAIL.

I'M SORRY, HOMIE.

I PHD IS ON ME, BUT THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE.

I DID SEND AN EMAIL BECAUSE I AM AVAILABLE NEXT WEEK.

UM, I WANTED TO ALSO, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE TILL, UM, COMMISSIONER FLORES, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH MR. NICK MILLAN LAST MONTH.

I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT CAUSE I WAS ON THE ROAD TRYING TO GET BACK TO YOU QUICKLY.

UM, I WILL SAY I WANTED TO UPDATE THE COMMISSION AND LET THEM KNOW THAT, UM, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY CULTURAL HERITAGE COUNCIL FROM THE BEGINNING, UM, AS A FOUNDING SECRETARY, UM, WHICH WE JUST TURNED INTO A COMMISSION.

SO I GET TO HEAR NEWS INTERCHANGEABLY, I WOULD SAY, WITHIN THAT GROUP AND IN THIS GROUP.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK WE NEED TO CHAT.

ALRIGHT.

I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE, UM, WE MEET EVERY TUESDAY AT 11:00 AM.

UM, AND IT'S, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE ON COUNCIL.

WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING UP, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION AND, UM, YOU WILL LEARN SO MUCH MORE ABOUT BLACK EAST AUSTIN AND JUST AUSTIN IN GENERAL AND ITS HISTORY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FAR AS PRESERVING, UM, AS MUCH AS WE CAN RIGHT NOW.

[01:35:02]

EXCELLENT COMMISSIONER SYSMON CAN WE CIRCULATE THAT INFO? IS THAT OPEN FOR ANY COMMISSIONER TO ATTEND? I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD.

I WILL SEND OUT AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WILL SEND OUT AN EMAIL TOMORROW.

IT WILL BE IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMING FROM MY WORK EMAIL.

AND I COME FROM T D HAS BEEN TALL, EVEN CAT IS AN APPLE IS AN APPLE H IS INHERITED CULTURAL@GMAIL.COM.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY, KIMBERLY.

JUST MAKE SURE THAT STAFF HAS THAT AND THEY CAN SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE BACK SLASH THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

UM, THE IMAGINE AUSTIN TOWN CENTER JOINT WORKING GROUP, UH, I WAS, I TOUCHED, I WAS ABLE TO TOUCH BASE WITH, UM, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY COMMISSION.

UH, WE THEY'RE MEETING LATER THIS WEEK, SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR, UM, THEIR MEMBERS OFFICIALLY IDENTIFIED AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL GET STARTED IN SCHEDULING MEETINGS WITH, UM, IMAGINE AUSTIN STAFF, AS WELL AS EQUITY OFFICE, WHO WERE BOTH INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING, UM, THE EFFORTS THAT COME OUT OF THIS WORK JOINT WORKING GROUPS.

SO, UM, THINGS ARE STARTING TO MOVE AND,

[6. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]

UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WITH THE AIP COMMISSIONER VAN DYKE.

DO YOU HAVE A, DON'T FORGET TO UNMUTE.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THAT MIGHT BE? UH, I WAS GOING TO CHECK IN WITH CHAIR NOELLE, UM, THURSDAY AFTER HER, AFTER HER, AFTER THEIR MEETING.

SO I'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE VIA EMAIL.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO YEAH, SO FEATURED ON ITEMS AIPP UM, BUT DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER SYSMON I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

WE DID GET A BREAKDOWN FOR THEIR CREATIVE WORKER GRANT AND OUR BACKUP MATERIALS, BUT FROM WHAT I COULD TELL THAT INFORMATION DIDN'T ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES AND COMMISSIONER GARZA BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE THAT RECEIVE THAT WERE AWARDED FUNDS VIA THE LOTTERY.

UM, THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB OF BREAKING DOWN THE TOTAL OF RECIPIENTS, BUT I THINK, UM, I AM PERSONALLY, UM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE STILL INTERESTED IN SEEING THAT 15%, 50% THAT WAS AWARDED THAT GRANT VIA THE LOTTERY, WHAT THAT BREAKDOWN WAS, AND THEN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDING.

DO I NEED TO MAKE THAT AN AGENDA ITEM? CAN I JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO SO NOVIA, IS THAT INFORMATION LIKE, HOW WOULD I GO ABOUT APPROPRIATELY PROCURING AND THEN ALSO SHARING THAT INFORMATION? DOES IT NEED TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, I GUESS IS MY QUESTION? MEGAN, YOU CAN MAKE AN, AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEND STAFF AN EMAIL.

WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER TO GET SOMETHING IN WRITING, JUST SO I'M CLEAR ON KIND OF WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO DIG INTO FURTHER, BUT HAPPY TO DO THAT.

AND ALSO HAPPY TO SHARE IT OUT AT A COMMISSION MEETING.

IT'S UP TO Y'ALL MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE GET THE INFORMATION FIRST, MEET, HAVE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE TWO OR THREE OF Y'ALL THAT WE'RE ASKING.

AND THEN IF IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A, SOMETHING, A CONVERSATION WITH HAVING PUBLICLY LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ADDING INTO THE AGENDA.

OKAY, PERFECT.

WE CAN ALSO SEE IF, UH, IF IT'S SOMETHING WORTH, UM, UPDATING ON THE DASHBOARD, WE CAN TALK TO OUR DATA PEOPLE TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS CAPTURED AND CAN BE SHARED THERE TOO.

I'M JUST, I'M REALLY CURIOUS.

UM, I KNOW THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL AND EVERYBODY DID AN AMAZING JOB AND WE HIT SOME INCREDIBLE MILESTONES AND I DON'T WANT TO UNDERVALUE THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS CAUSE I, I KNOW THE IMPACT THAT IT HAD ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND I KNOW THAT MANY, MANY BENEFITED, I JUST HAVE QUESTIONS WITH THIS LOTTERY COMPONENT.

UM, AND IF, IF THAT 50% THAT WAS AWARDED, BE A LOTTERY, IF IT'S STILL MIRRORS OUR GOALS FOR EQUITY, DIVERSITY, AND INCLUSION, OR IF IT, UM, FALLS SHORT.

CAUSE I THINK THE SCORE, ALL THE PEOPLE BE MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

GREAT.

THANKS MEGAN.

I'LL I'LL SEND AN EMAIL.

YEAH, SURE.

RIGHT.

UH, THAT'S THE END OF OUR AGENDA.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.

ENJOY YOUR MONDAY EVENING.

CAN I SAY ONE THING QUICK? YES, SIR.

THE BEST TAKEAWAY TO ME TODAY WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER BARNES IS A EXPRESSION THAT DOESN'T NEED TO ROLL DOWN THE MOUNTAIN TODAY.

I CAN'T

[01:40:01]

WAIT TO USE THAT.

THANK YOU.

NEVER HEARD OF THAT BEFORE EITHER.

YES.

MR. BARNES WINS THE MEETING.

THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT.

Y'ALL THANKS EVERYBODY.

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