* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
          [CALL TO ORDER]
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          AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL START WITH RURAL CALL AND, UH, HOPE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, GIVE EVERYBODY ANYBODY ELSE, A CHANCE TO LINE, UH, LOG IN BEFORE WE GET STARTED. 
          UH, SO THIS IS, UH, CHAIRMAN DANA HARMON. 
          I AM PRESIDENT I'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST. 
          IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A QUICK AUDIO CONFIRMATION OF YOUR PRESENCE, UH, VICE CHAIR, WHITE. 
          SEE YOU. 
          I DON'T THINK I HEARD YOU, BUT I SEE YOU. 
          SORRY, PRESIDENT. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BABIAK I, HI, JAMES. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU, JONATHAN. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          BRENNAMAN OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER CHAVARRIA, COMMISSIONER. 
          DIELMAN PRESIDENT. 
          HI, LEO COMMISSIONER FREELAND, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          I'M HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY SHANE. 
          THANKS AND COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO JOIN US THIS EVENING. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO START BY COMMISSIONER. 
          BRENDAN HAS JUST BEEN LED INTO THE MEETING. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WHO'S JUST BEEN LET IN REBECCA BRENNEMAN. 
          OH, WONDERFUL. 
          WELCOME COMMISSIONER. 
          BRENNAMAN WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE. 
          SORRY. 
          I JUST FIGURED OUT HOW TO UNMUTE. 
          NEAT. 
          NO WORRIES. 
          I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE ALL. 
          IT'S THAT KIND OF EVENING, BUT THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, REBECCA. 
          IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. 
          I MAY JUST REMIND EVERYBODY. 
          WE ARE NO LONGER A CONSTRAINT THE 90 MINUTES. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK WE ALL WANT TO STAY HERE TOO LATE, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE TIME TO GET THIS RIGHT AND TAKE SOME DEEP BREATHS IF WE HAVE TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFICULTIES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REMINDER, JAMIE AND I DO THINK IT IS A, IT'S CERTAINLY NICE TO NOT HAVE THE, UH, THE, THE CLOCK PULLED ON IS RIGHT AT 90 MINUTES. 
          IF WE NEED TO FINISH THE DISCUSSION, UM, I'M HOPEFUL. 
          WE CAN KEEP THIS TO ABOUT TWO HOURS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR OUR AGENDA. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN WRAP UP BY 8:00 PM TONIGHT. 
          UM, BUT THANK YOU JAMIE VERY MUCH FOR THAT REMINDER. 
          UM, SO, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I DID WANT TO SAY A QUICK THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN EQUITY OFFICE FOR THE EQUITY TRAINING, UH, THAT THEY CONDUCTED WITH THIS COMMISSION. 
          UH, LAST WEEK, I THINK IT WAS A VERY, UM, USEFUL, INFORMATIVE, THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION. 
          UM, AND SO THANK YOU TO THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO TOOK THE TIME, UH, AND WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT TRAINING. 
          AND AS WE DISCUSSED, UM, AT THAT MEETING, I BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE THE FIRST OF A LONG SERIES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS COMMISSION ABOUT HOW TO INCORPORATE EQUITY INTO OUR WORK AS A COMMISSION, QUICK REVIEW OF THE AGENDA. 
          UM, IT LOOKS, WE WILL HAVE, UH, STAFF REPORTS AND BRIEFING ON SOLAR READY PROVISIONS PLAN REVIEW BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'LL ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE ON ELECTRICAL VEHICLE AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOTE, UM, THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WE DO HAVE POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING PLAN REVIEW FOR INSPECTION OF SOLAR READY PROVISIONS. 
          I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM FOUR, UM, UP TO ITEM TWO FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION BY THE COMMISSION. 
          IF IN FACT THERE IS ACTION THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, FINALLY JUST REVIEWING A QUICK PREVIEW OF THE AGENDA, UM, OLD BUSINESS ITEM, NUMBER FIVE, THERE'S DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUPPORT OF THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN JUST WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION TO AN, UH, RECOMMENDATION, UH, RESOLUTION THAT, UH, JAMIE DISTRIBUTED JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING, UH, THAT KIBO WILL BE SHARING WITH US. 
          UH, DURING THAT I HAVE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN FINALLY WE'LL CLOSE WITH AN UPDATE FOR, UH, FROM THE, UM, WORKING GROUP FOR THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY MISSIONS DASHBOARD, UM, AND, AND QUICK REVIEW OF FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, SO WITH THAT, LET'S PLEASE, UH, 
          [CITIZEN COMMUNICATION]
KICK IT OFF WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. 
          JAMIE, I DO BELIEVE WE DO HAVE, UH, ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR COMMUNITY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. 
          WE HAVE A, MR. TIM IS, UH, I BELIEVE IS, IS READY TO GO. 
          MR ART. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN HARMON AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. 
          MY NAME IS TIM ART AND I SERVED ON THE LOW INCOME ADVISORY TASK FORCE BACK IN 2015. 
          I WANTED 
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TO THANK YOU ALL FOR CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON IMPROVING EQUITY AND ASSISTED, UH, CITY SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAMS. SOME OF THE LOW INCOME TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE TO COUNCIL WERE ADOPTED BY A E AND SOME WERE NOT EITHER WAY. 
          YOU MAY CHOOSE TO CHAMPION SOME OF THEM. 
          THE NUMBER ONE WAS INCREASED TRANSPARENCY, WHICH WE ALL ALL ALWAYS WANT. 
          UM, BUT SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, THIS, THESE PROGRAMS, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO HAVE SOLAR ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING ROOFTOPS WITH FRACTIONAL BILLING. 
          THEY ADOPTED THAT HALF OF THE MULTIFAMILY REBATE BUDGET GOING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THEY ADOPTED THAT. 
          UM, WE RECOMMENDED WEATHERIZATION PROGRAMS INTEGRATED WITH THE HOME REPAIRS. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND 10% OF THE KW GOAL TARGETING LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS BY 2022, WE MIGHT EVEN ADD A KW REDUCTION GOAL TO THAT AS WELL. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THE ECAD ENERGY GUIDES NEED TO GO ONLINE. 
          UM, SO THAT WILL DRIVE, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE OR NOT. 
          UM, TRANSPARENCY IS THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN, UH, OFFER ASSISTANCE AND DIRECTIONS AND INCREASING EQUITY IN THESE PROGRAMS. UM, OTHERWISE FUNDS GOING TOWARDS LOW AND MODERATE INCOME TAX RATE PAYERS WILL JUST GO ON USE LIKE THEY DID IN 2019 AND THE MULTIFAMILY PROGRAM. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE RECEIVED, I SENT OUT A REFERENCE DOCUMENT THAT HAD OUR REPORT. 
          DID ANYBODY RECEIVE THAT? OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          YES, WE DID. 
          JAMIE, UH, DISTRIBUTED TO THIS COMMISSION. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, WELL AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH, SO, UM, REAL QUICKLY, WHAT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON WAS REALLY TRANSPARENCY. 
          I MEAN, IN THE MONTHLY REPORTS, UH, WELL FIRST MULTIFAMILY IN 2019 WAS HORRIBLE. 
          UM, AUSTIN ENERGY SAID ALL THE REBATES, ALL THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, UH, HAS BEEN BEEN DONE IN MULTIFAMILY. 
          UM, YOU ALL PUSHED BACK AND THEY PUT OUT A CONTRACT AND AWARDED IT A TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, UH, TO CLEAR RESULTS. 
          UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN A PLAN. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE A PLAN. 
          I THINK SMITTY WHEN THE RCA CAME UP, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR QUESTION IS, ARE WE GOING TO GET WHAT WE PAID FOR? I'D LOVE TO SEE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THE PLAN IS OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING, OR AT LEAST WHAT BENCHMARKS THAT THEY HAVE ACHIEVED IN THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, I LOVE THE PIPELINE THAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE Y'ALL GAVE THEM A BLANKET RCA FOR COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY. 
          UM, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM ADD KWH AND KW AND GREENHOUSE GASES TO ALL PROJECTS, EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN $61,000. 
          UM, THE OTHER IS THE ECAD ENERGY GUIDE NEEDS TO GO ONLINE. 
          UH, I THINK EVERYBODY LOVES IT. 
          THE ENERGY GUIDE, IF WE CAN GET IT ONLINE, I THINK IT'LL DRIVE, UM, ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN THE MULTIFAMILY, UH, SECTOR. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, FAIRMONT HARMON, IF YOU COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO MARRY A E AND HOUSING FUNDS TO DO HOME REPAIR AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY UPGRADES AT THE SAME TIME TO LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLD, YOU'LL SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT I THINK EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT, BUT NOBODY CAN OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE, FOR NOT CUTTING ME OFF. 
          I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MISS DEBATE COMMISSION IS PLANNING ON DOING THIS WEEK. 
          I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, IF ANYONE HAS ANY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ARENT, AND I, I, I ADMIT, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON SOLVING THE WEATHERIZATION AND HOUSING CHALLENGES TOGETHER, UM, WOULD, WOULD BE A HUGE WIN FOR US. 
          UM, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, UH, FOR MR. ORANGE FROM THE COMMISSION? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR HIS REPORT ANALYSIS. 
          IT WAS VERY THOUGHTFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT GETTING AN ADVANCED TEAM. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IT'S HELPFUL. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SMITTY. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. ORANGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT LET'S MOVE ON TO, 
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UH, ITEM 
          [1. Approve minutes of the September 14, 2020 Special Called Meeting of Resource Management Commission.]
NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 24TH, UH, MEETING. 
          UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED, UH, BY JAMIE WITH OUR MATERIALS? OKAY. 
          UH, MOTION FROM SMITTY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          HI. 
          OKAY. 
          JAMIE, I HOPE YOU WERE ABLE TO TRACK ALL THAT, BUT I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THE MOTION PASSED. 
          I DID NOT HEAR ANY NAYS. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          SHANE HAS FROZEN IN CYBERSPACE, BUT HIS ARM IS UP. 
          SO, AND THIS IS THE WORLD WHERE OLYMPIC AND WON'T IT BE WONDERFUL WHEN WE CAN ALL BE BACK TOGETHER IN PERSON SOMEDAY? YEAH, THIS IS LEO. 
          I'M GOING IN AND OUT TO MY, OH, THAT SOUNDED LIKE AN OUT LEO. 
          I DO THINK IF YOU CAN STILL HEAR US, THE PHONE CONNECTION SEEMED TO BE WORKING FAIRLY WELL FOR ME WHEN MY INTERNET WASN'T WORKING WELL. 
          SO THAT THE PHONE NUMBER, IF YOU NEED TO CALL IN IS IN THE EMAIL THAT JAMIE DISTRIBUTED LAST FRIDAY. 
          SO NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO, 
          [2. Briefing regarding solar ready provisions plan review and inspections by City of Austin Development Services Department.]
UM, ITEM TWO. 
          UH, WE HAVE A STAFF BRIEFING REGARDING THE SOLAR READY PROVISIONS PLAN, REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS BY CITY OF AUSTIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          DO WE HAVE, UM, THE PRESENTATION READY? MADAM CHAIR? I DID NOT BELIEVE THAT, UH, BETH CALBER WHO WILL BE PRESENTING HAS A FORMAL PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK SHE'S JUST GOING TO, UH, TALK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          IT'S A, IT'LL BE BETH CULVER, UH, KELLY STILWELL, AND THERE'S ONE OTHER PERSON. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          AND I CAN, I CAN KIND OF SEE FROM THIS SCREEN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE BEING PRESENTED TO PANELISTS. 
          SO I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT MEANS THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, TO HAVE AUDIO TO SPEAK WITH US. 
          HI, THIS IS BETH CULVER. 
          I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT ELEMENT SERVICES AND THE BUILDING OFFICIAL. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WE ALSO, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN PROMOTED OVER. 
          SO KELLY STILLWELL IS OUR ACTING CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR AND JENNIFER HALLS IS OUR CHIEF PLANS EXAMINER. 
          SO THEY'RE HERE AS WELL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THE REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION IS THAT OUR REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS FOR SOLAR READY PROVISIONS IS LIMITED TO IDENTIFYING A LOCATION ON A PLAN FOR A COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEW. 
          AND OTHERWISE WE ARE NOT PERFORMING ANY OTHER PLAN REVIEW OR INSPECTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          WE'VE PROVIDED ONLINE GUIDANCE DOCUMENTS WHO BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND HOW TO COMPLY. 
          AND WE HAVE A DURING INTAKE FOR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, WE HAVE AN ITEM WHERE THEY CAN CHECK OFF THAT THEY'VE COMPLIED AND IF THEY'RE REQUESTING ANY EXCEPTIONS, BUT THAT IS THE EXTENT OF OUR CURRENT REVIEW. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE, MS. MS. CULVER, AND FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE WITH US, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR, UM, IF I MAY, UH, FOR, FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, REGARDING THIS, THIS ITEM FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE. 
           OKAY. 
          UM, SO IN TERMS OF THE, THE BIT OF REVIEW THAT IS BEING DONE, ARE YOU FINDING THAT, UH, APPLICATIONS ARE COMING IN WITH THE CORRECT AREA IDENTIFIED OR ARE NOT? I'LL ASK THAT JENNIFER HALL SPEAK TO THAT. 
          THAT'S IN OUR PLAN REVIEW AREA. 
          YES. 
          HELLO, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. 
          UM, I, THEY ARE NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE REVIEWING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE AREA. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THE, IF THERE WAS AN AREA INDICATED ON THE PLAN. 
          SO THE REVIEW IS NOT THAT DETAILED TO GO INTO ENSURING THAT IT'S OF THE RIGHT SIZE OR IN THE RIGHT LOCATION. 
          UM, THEY ARE JUST, UM, DIRECTING OUR CUSTOMERS TO THESE, UH, SOLAR READY ORDINANCE FOR MORE INFORMATION. 
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IS THERE A REASON WHY AS LEAST THE CORRECT LOCATION ISN'T BEING CHECKED AT THAT PER STAGE? UM, I CAN REVISIT YOU'RE CUTTING OUT. 
          SO WHEN WE LAST CAME TO THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT SOLAR READY SPECIFICALLY, I BELIEVE IN 2018. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO WE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME THAT WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY OF THE STAFF. 
          WE REQUESTED TO BE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR BANDWIDTH FOR ADDING ADDITIONAL REVIEW. 
          AT OUR LAST VISIT, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING AT LEAST LOOKING FOR THE PRESENCE OF IT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE COMPLYING TO SOME DEGREE, BUT THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO CHECK FOR ACCURACY ON THAT. 
          AND SO WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME POSITION WHERE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO HANDLE THE VOLUME AND TO ADD ADDITIONAL REVIEW REQUIREMENTS TO IT. 
          UM, CAN I ASK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING CODE THAT ARE NOT IN ANY WAY HAVE BEEN CHECKED FOR ACCURACY OR IS THIS THE ONLY ONE? NO, THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF THE BUILDING CODE, UH, THAT ARE NOT BEING CHECKED. 
          CAN I ASK WHAT THEIR, UM, OUR PRIMARY AREA OF, UH, I WOULD SAY DEFICIENCY IN WHAT WE WERE REVIEWING IS ACTUALLY MORE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. 
          WE ONLY CHECK APPLICATIONS THAT ARE SUBMITTED BY NON DESIGN PROFESSIONALS. 
          WHEREAS IT BEEN DESIGNED PROFESSIONAL SUBMITS THAT PLAN. 
          WE DO A VERY LIMITED REVIEW. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THAT WAS ANOTHER REQUEST WE HAD MADE, UH, FOR STAFFING IN THE PAST AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE LARGEST AREA OTHERWISE. 
          UM, FOR COMMERCIAL, I DON'T HAVE A LIST OF WHAT WE DON'T REVIEW FOR NECESSARILY IF JENNIFER OR KELLY HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, BUT WE DO NOT REVIEW 100% OF THE CODE IN PARTICULAR FOR ACCURACY IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          SO AM I INFERRING CORRECTLY THAT THEN THE CHECK FOR THE PRESENCE OF THE SOLAR READY AREA IS ONLY HAPPENING FOR COMMERCIAL AND NOT AT ALL, EVEN FOR RESIDENTIAL? OR IS IT HAPPENING FOR BOTH? IT'S JUST COMMERCIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ALL THE TIME THOUGH, AND I HAVE COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT, BUT IF OTHERS HAVE WAIT, SO AT THIS TIME, THANK YOU, KAI. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FROM STAFF, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THOSE, UH, ON THE TABLE NOW. 
          AND THEN IF WE'D LIKE TO, UM, AS A COMMISSION, MOVE UP, ITEM FOUR, TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE ACTION. 
          IF THERE IS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FROM THIS COMMISSION, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THAT NEXT, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION REGARDING THIS TOPIC? YEAH, I, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT IF DESIGN PROFESSIONALS SUBMIT A BUILDING PLAN TO YOU THAT YOU DON'T CHECK IT, IT AM I HEARING WHAT YOU SAID CORRECTLY? OH YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          FOR A RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW PROGRAM, WE CHECK A SEALED POINT. 
          WE ACTUALLY DID ADD A REVIEW TO CHECK SEALED PLANS FOR FIRE RATED PARTITIONS. 
          HOWEVER, BEYOND THAT, OUR REVIEW IS LIMITED TO A COMPLETENESS CHECK ONLY, AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ITEMS ARE CHECKED IN THE FIELD BY BUILDING INSPECTIONS, BUT THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE REALLY ON A COMPLAINT BASIS. 
          ONLY THAT IF IT'S BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T COMPLY, WE CAN, UM, HAVE THEM COMPLY WITH THAT, BUT WE MAY NOT BE ACTIVELY CHECKING FOR IT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE STAFFING WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE SEEING, OH, THAT'S ALARMING. 
          UM, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER AT SOME POINT. 
          UM, BUT EACH OF US, I THINK WERE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UM, I THINK I, MANY OF YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS ABOUT ME AND MY PAST, BUT I SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT MEMBER WHEN I WAS A YOUNGER MAN. 
          AND I'M GLAD THEY'RE CHECKING FOR FIRE BARRIERS AND SO FORTH, BUT, 
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UH, I JUST THINK IT'S UNACCEPTABLE BASED ON SOME OF THE TRAGEDIES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IN THAT PARTICULAR LAKESIDE COMMUNITY THAT WAS OUTSIDE THE RANGE OF ANY OF THE BUILDING INSPECTORS THAT MIGHT'VE COME FROM MARRIOTT AND THE BUILDERS KNEW IT. 
          AND AS I REFERENCED, THERE WERE SOME OF VERTEBRAL TRAGEDIES THAT OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THIS SORT OF, UM, NOBODY'S WATCHING THIS KIND OF ATTITUDE THAT THE BUILDING COMMUNITY TOOK. 
          SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION. 
          IT MIGHT BE, I WAS WONDERING IF I CAN ADD THAT WE DO INSPECT FOR MAJOR ISSUES. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE PRIORITIZED LICENSING ISSUES OVER OTHER AREAS OF THE CODE, BUT WE DO HAVE AREAS THAT WE CANNOT REVIEW FOR AHEAD OF TIME. 
          AND THAT LEADS TO ISSUES IN THE FIELD WHEN WE'RE HAVING TO DO CORRECTIONS AFTER THE FACT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT TOO, IF I COULD, UM, ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE THAT HAS A FIRE RATED ASSEMBLY, OR WHETHER IT'S A TOWNHOUSE OR A DUPLEX OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE, UH, PROJECTS. 
          DO YOU HAVE A FIRE RATED FIRES, A SUBREDDIT CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION WHERE WE DO LOOK AT THE PIRATE AND ASSEMBLIES AND WE VIEW MAKE SURE THAT THEY MEET THE STANDARD THAT THEY WERE DESIGNED TO. 
          THAT'S MORE REASSURING. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, BETH, IF I, IF I MAY JUST CIRCLE BACK TO YOU TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT AS IF THIS COMMISSION DOES CHOOSE TO TAKE UP THIS TOPIC AND WE, UM, ARE FOLLOWING SMITTY'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO SPEAK WITH OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE IN, IN CITY MANAGER. 
          UM, I BELIEVE I'VE, WE WE'VE HEARD YOU SAY THAT IN SEVERAL OF THESE INSTANCES WHERE THE REVIEWS ARE NOT ABLE TO BE DONE, THE MAIN REASON THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING COMPLETED IS DUE TO A LACK OF STAFF IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO WE HAVE, AGAIN, PRIORITIZE WHAT ISSUES ARE LIFE SAFETY VERSUS ISSUES THAT ARE MORE, I GUESS, SAFE TO BE REPORTED ON A COMPLAINT BASIS. 
          UM, BUT ULTIMATELY OUR, OUR LIST OF WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, WHICH I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS ARE FAMILIAR IN THE PAST THAT, UH, CERTAIN AREAS OF THE ENERGY CODE, OR, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, SOLAR READY SPECIFICALLY, UH, WHEN WE'VE ASKED FOR STAFFING TO REVIEW FOR NEW REGULATIONS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY RECEIVE THAT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, THAT CONFIRMATION AND ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION. 
          UM, BUT BEFORE WE OPENED UP TO THE COMMISSION TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ACTION, IF ANY, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE HERE. 
          UM, AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, FOR STAFF? YEAH, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ENERGY RELATED ITEMS THAT ARE NOT BEING CHECKED EITHER IN PLAN REVIEW OR IN THE FIELD? UH, YEAH, THERE ARE SOME ITEMS WE DON'T HAVE A, AGAIN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T KEEP A RUNNING LIST OF WHAT'S NOT REVIEWED, I WOULD SAY THE LARGEST, UM, THING THAT WE DON'T CHECK FOR OUR, THE ACCURACY OF ENERGY MODELS AND COMMISSIONING PLANS. 
          WE DON'T GENERALLY REVIEW THE ENERGY MODEL IF IT'S A GREEN BUILDING BUILDING, I BELIEVE AUSTIN ENERGY DOES REVIEW THOSE, BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE MERELY LOOKING FOR, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH OUR, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY COMCHECK, UM, OR FOR THE COMMISSIONING REPORTS. 
          WE COLLECT THOSE REPORTS, I BELIEVE, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY REVIEWING THAT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, TO ENSURE THAT, UM, REGULATIONS ARE BEING FOLLOWED. 
          SO THOSE ARE OUR TWO BIGGEST AREAS THAT WE ARE NOT CHECKING. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE NOT, AND WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH A LIST IF YOU WERE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT ELSE WE ARE MISSING. 
          THANKS. 
          SORRY, WHAT ARE COMMISSIONING PLANS? SO DURING CONSTRUCTION, UM, THE, I BELIEVE IN, UH, KELLY, IF I GET THIS WRONG, LET ME KNOW, BUT I BELIEVE FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS IN PARTICULAR, UH, IT MAY REQUIRE AN ENGINEER AND GENERALLY THEY'RE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, LIKE THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM IS OPERATING, UM, AS NECESSARY PER THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS PLANS, UH, 
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THAT IT'S RUNNING EFFICIENTLY. 
          THAT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A REQUIRED, UH, FLUSH OUT THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A WAY JUST TO VERIFY THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING FROM AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT VERSUS US, UH, INSPECTING, YOU KNOW, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE EQUIPMENT WORKING AND ANY OTHER KIND OF INSPECTION THAT WE WOULD DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I GUESS BACK TO SOLAR, READY TO AT LEAST CHECK, I GUESS, EITHER IN PLAN REVIEW OR IN THE FIELD FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO ACHIEVE THAT? HUH? WELL, WE HAVEN'T ANALYZED THE NUMBER OF STAFF SINCE THE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED. 
          UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN US REVIEWING AND INSPECTING FOR THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY CALCULATED FOR RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW, JUST TO DO THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT COMMERCIAL IS CURRENTLY DOING FOR REVIEW, JUST IDENTIFYING THAT IT'S BEEN SHOWN ON THE PLANS, UM, AND THAT ANY EXEMPTIONS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED THAT WAS A 15 MINUTE REVIEW, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT, YES, IT'S QUICK TO LOOK AT THE RECTANGLE ON THE PLAN. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO THEN END UP HAVING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CUSTOMERS AND AFFORDING THEM THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY SO THEY CAN COMPLY. 
          UM, SO BASED ON THAT AND THE QUANTITY OF APPLICATIONS WE RECEIVE FOR NEW HOMES, UM, THAT REQUIRED ONE FULL TIME PAY THAT WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW. 
          NOW THAT NUMBER WAS BASED ON 2015 APPLICATION VOLUMES. 
          SO WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, SINCE WE WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE REQUIREMENT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST TO CHECK IF THERE IS A BOX THERE, NOT EVEN IF IT'S THE RIGHT SIZE OR ORIENTATION. 
          YEAH. 
          WE ALSO PROVIDE CONSULTATIONS WALK-IN CONSULTATIONS. 
          AND SO STAFF, UH, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT THOUGH, BE ADDING TIME TO THEIR CONSULTATION AND IN ORDER TO DIRECT CUSTOMERS TO THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          UM, BUT WITHOUT REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE THE TRAINING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THAT NEEDS TO BE LOCATED ON THE ROOF. 
          I GUESS IF YOU WERE GOING TO BALLPARK HOW MUCH STAFF TIME IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TO AT LEAST CONFIRM AT THE PLANNER VIEW STAGE THAT THE AREA IS THE CORRECT AREA AND THAT IT'S IN A CORRECT ORIENTATION. 
          LIKE IF YOU HAD TO BALLPARK IT, HOW MANY STAFF DO YOU THINK WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT? BASED ON THE NUMBERS WE PULLED IN 2015. 
          AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A GRASP ON WHAT THE, THE INCREASES WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          WE'D ALSO LOOK AT PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT, UM, THREE TO FIVE YEARS FOR VOLUME, SINCE WE AREN'T INTENDING TO ASK FOR STAFF. 
          UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE, I'VE CALCULATED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          UM, I, IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO SAY EXACTLY, I DON'T KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE LOOKED AT EXACTLY HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN THE CORRECT LOCATION. 
          AND IF THE STAFF CAN GET THE TRAINING FOR THAT, MS. CULVER ALONG THESE LINES OF SUPPORT, UM, I I'M CURIOUS WHETHER YOUR TEAM LIKELY HAS, BUT I'M CURIOUS WHETHER YOU'VE, YOU'VE LOOKED INTO WHAT IF THERE MAY BE, UM, TOOLS OR, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE PLATFORMS OR OTHER RESOURCES, UM, THAT COULD HELP, UM, ANY STAFF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE DEDICATED TO THIS PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP POTENTIALLY MAKE THOSE ROLES MORE EFFICIENT OR EASIER. 
          UM, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOME SORT OF INVESTMENT IN SOFTWARE PLATFORMS THAT COULD HELP? UM, I, WELL, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FUNDING THIS YEAR FOR US TO INVEST IN ANY SOFTWARE, BUT WE DO HAVE A GUIDE THAT AUSTIN ENERGY CREATED FOR US, UM, THAT CUSTOMERS CAN ALSO USE WHERE THEY CAN PLUG IN NUMBERS. 
          I MEAN, THAT DOCUMENT IS CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO STAFF. 
          UM, IT'S, UH, I THINK THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THREE PAGES LONG, SO I'M NOT SURE IF IT WOULD TAKE THAT MUCH TIME TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTIAL IS A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLIFIED AND THE COMMERCIAL, JUST AN INTEREST 
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OF KEEPING THINGS. 
          UM, WE WERE FOR THAT CUSTOMER GROUP. 
          I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE IF THOSE DOCUMENTS COULD BE CREATED, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR US TO DO THAT IN HOUSE, BUT SURE. 
          AND UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND I THINK REALLY MY INTENTION IN BRINGING IT UP WITH WONDERING IF THERE WAS NOT AT ALL TO TRY TO ADD TO YOUR BANDWIDTH, BUT TO SAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE TOOLS MAY BE ABLE TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, STREAMLINE THE PROCESS OR MAKE IT A BIT MORE EFFICIENT? UM, IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, UM, I MEAN, CERTAINLY SOFTWARE COULD HELP. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOFTWARE WOULD BE. 
          I'M NOT FAMILIAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, MS. CULVER AND TO THE TEAM FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME WITH US THIS EVENING, UM, I GUESS IF I MAY MOVE ON TO 
          [4. Possible action regarding plan review and inspection for solar ready provisions.]
ITEM FOUR, UM, REGARDING A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UM, YEAH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, YOU BROUGHT UP, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US TO, TO TAKE ACTION. 
          I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR, UM, FOR DISCUSSION. 
          AND IS THERE ANYTHING FORMAL THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO AS A RESULT OF THIS DISCUSSION OR SHALL WE ALL CONFER WITH OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE, UM, AND, AND REVISIT THIS AT A LATER TIME, POTENTIALLY. 
          WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? UM, WELL, I GUESS, UH, FIRST, UH, ON THE INFORMAL, UM, BETH, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO FOLLOW UP WITH US, UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE STAFFING NEEDS WOULD BE TO, UM, DO THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF ENFORCING SOLAR, BETTY IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE SINCE WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THESE STAFFING DEFICITS A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT HELPS US BE BETTER ADVOCATES IF WE HAVE SOME ACCURATE, UH, ESTIMATES FROM, FROM YOU AS TO HOW MUCH STAFF IT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE. 
          UM, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO? YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COME BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING AND PRESENT. 
          THANKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M INTERESTED IN LIKE, YOU KNOW, BREAKING IT DOWN, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH FOR A FULL, UH, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT AND PLAN REVIEW, AND THEN ALSO CHECKING IN THE FIELD. 
          CAUSE I THINK BOTH ARE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMMISSION WENT THROUGH THE BOTHER OF, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDING AND ULTIMATELY WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING SOLAR READY, ADOPTED FOR THE CITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BUT WHAT I HEAR RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE KIND OF DON'T REALLY HAVE SOLAR READY TO LIKE IT'S ON THE BOOKS, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT NOT BEING ENFORCED ON RESIDENTIAL AND ONLY IN A VERY CURSORY LEVEL LEVEL ON COMMERCIAL. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT WORTHWHILE REALLY TO HAVE REGULATIONS IF THEY'RE TOTALLY UNENFORCED. 
          SO I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT ADEQUATE STAFF ARE PROVIDED TO ENFORCE. 
          SO THEY'RE READY AND, YOU KNOW, STARTING WITH, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ASSESS THAT. 
          AND BETH, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S STILL HELPFUL TO GET THAT KIND OF, UM, THAT ASSESSMENT FROM YOU, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL TAKE ACTION ON THIS. 
          ARE THERE REACTIONS TO KIND OF HIS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION? I, I, I DO AS WELL, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, I ALSO AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE IF WE WERE TO PUT SOME NUMBERS BEHIND THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY TAKE TO GET THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED? SO I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND THAT, YEAH, LIKEWISE, I AGREE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND I SUPPORT THIS PATH, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, BETH, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO, TO FOLLOW UP WITH US WITH THOSE STAFFING NUMBERS, UH, THAT YOU FEEL WOULD BE ADEQUATE, UM, TO, FOR, FOR THE, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, WE WILL BEGIN WORKING TO DRAFT, UM, UH, A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO DISCUSS IN DRAFT OR A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION. 
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ANY OTHER, UM, THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS ON, ON THIS TOPIC BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UM, FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US, UH, THIS, THIS EVENING, WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR TIME IN THIS DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT LET'S PLEASE 
          [3. Electric vehicle and infrastructure program update.]
MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE, UH, ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM UPDATE MADAM CHAIR. 
          I BELIEVE WE'RE FINE. 
          I GET, UH, CARL PAPA IS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE PROGRAM AND CAMERA FREEBURG, UM, LIVE AND WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET THE PRESENTATION UP AND RUNNING. 
          SO, SO MAKE SURE WE POSTPONE THIS AND COME BACK WHEN HE'S ON. 
          WELL, I DO BELIEVE HE'S ON MR. POPPIN. 
          ARE YOU THERE? YEAH. 
          UH, CARL POPPINS HERE. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          YEAH, WELL, I'M JUST IN THE AUDIENCE WATCHING, Y'ALL SPEAK AND THEN I GET ELEVATED TO THE TABLE, UH, TO THE PRESENTATION, MR. POPPA. 
          I STILL HAVEN'T BEEN ELEVATED. 
          I'M STILL TECHNICALLY IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK SO. 
          I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD YOU WERE AT THE BIG KID'S TABLE. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, FOR COMING TO SPEAK WITH US THIS EVENING AND PLEASE, UH, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          SO CARL POP HIM A MANAGER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES I'M BEING JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE, CAMERON FREEBERG UTILITY STRATEGIST, WHO WILL TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES. 
          SO THERE'S CAMERAS THERE WAVING. 
          UM, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, MY PROPOSED AGENDA IS JUST A UPDATE ON THE PROGRAMS. I'M GOING TO TALK SPECIFIC SOME INTERESTING ELECTRIC VEHICLE METRICS, ESPECIALLY HAPPENING DURING THE PANDEMIC. 
          AND THEN I, UH, PICKED SOME OF THE KEY HIGHLIGHTS OF PROJECT AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT FOR , UH, NEXT SLIDE, UH, AND JUST A SHOUT OUT TO THE TEAM. 
          THIS IS YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES TEAM. 
          SO I I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THEIR HEAVY LIFTING AND PASSION ON THESE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS, SO HAPPY TO BE REPRESENTING, UH, THE TEAM TODAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO HERE'S JUST THE SUITE OF EVIE PRO. 
          A LOT OF THESE ARE ALREADY PRETTY FAMILIAR TO Y'ALL. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THE BULLETS THAT SAY NEW, AND THEN IN THE PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT OF WHY THAT'S A NEW PROGRAM AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. 
          SO UNDER THE DRIVER PROGRAM, WE DID LAUNCH DC FAST CHARGING, UH, A FLEET OF DC FAST CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          UH, ALSO WE KNEW WE ROLLED OUT AN OPTIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, COMMERCIAL TARIFF, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHY WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE, UH, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS FLEET ADOPTION. 
          AND THEN I'M GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON EVS FOR SCHOOLS, UH, TO INCLUDE WHERE THE CURRICULUM IS NOW, UH, HOW IT'S BEING RECEIVED AS WELL AS SOME OF THE UPDATES INCLUDE, HAS NOW BEEN UPDATED TO BE, UH, INCLUDED IN SPANISH AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO HERE'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE DC FAST. 
          SO FOR , UH, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION RIGHT DURING, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PANDEMIC, UH, THE TEAM LAUNCHED 26, NEW DC FAST STATIONS. 
          UH, THESE STATIONS CAN CHARGE ONE PAIRED UP TO 125 KW INDIVIDUALLY. 
          THEY'RE ABOUT HALF THAT, UH, THE CHARGING RATE IS 21 CENTS A MINUTE. 
          UH, AND TO PUT THAT INTO COMPARISON OR WHAT IS 125 JWB, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 200 MILES, EVERY 30 MINUTES OF, OF RANGE, UH, AND CUSTOMERS CONNECT TO THAT, UH, NEXT LINE. 
          UH, SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE OVERALL GROWTH OF THE PLUG AND EVERYWHERE NETWORK. 
          THAT'S AWESOME ENERGIES, UH, CHARGING NETWORK, UH, FUN FACT IS POWERED BY GREEN CHOICE. 
          SO IT'S POWERED BY 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY THROUGH US, TEXAS WIND. 
          UM, SO FOR THIS YEAR, A STRONG GROWTH, ALL THINGS CONSIDERING, OR JUST REALLY REGARDLESS, 180 NEW CHARGING INCREASE, THAT INCLUDES THE 20, 60 C FAST. 
          UH, WE DID ACHIEVE THE KIND OF A INTERNAL TEAM MILESTONE OF OVER 1000 PORTS AND GROWING, UH, THROUGH THE NETWORK. 
          AND WE'RE NOW AT 289 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT AUSTIN AND THE AUSTIN AREA AND OUR SERVICE TERM X LINE. 
          UM, SO HERE'S SOME AB METRICS HERE IN AUSTIN REGARDING CUSTOMERS BUYING EDS. 
          UH, SO NO BIG SURPRISE. 
          YOU SEE THAT A SIGNIFICANT DROP, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN TWO 18 AND TWO 19, PRIMARILY 
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BACKED BY THE TESLA THREE, UH, AUSTINITES, WE'RE BUYING, UH, AROUND 300 EVS PER MONTH. 
          AND THEN, UH, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HIT, YOU SAW THAT PLUMMET TO JUST, JUST ABOUT A HUNDRED. 
          SO YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF FLATTENING OF THE CURVE. 
          AND E V SALES WERE JUST ABOUT UNDER 12,000 RIGHT NOW, KEEP IN MIND. 
          OUR AB DATA IS ALWAYS A FEW MONTHS BEHIND BASED ON HOW WE GET THE DATA AND HOW IT GOES THROUGH DMV, ET CETERA. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT 22, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S AS A SEVEN 2020, BUT WE CONTINUE TO START SEEING THAT, THAT GROWTH ON THIS REAL QUICK, THE MODELS THAT ARE MISSING WOULD INCLUDE THE BOLT BELIEF. 
          UM, AND PERHAPS, UM, AND I'M WONDERING WHY YOU'VE CHOSEN THE MORE EXPENSIVE MODELS TO GO HERE. 
          YEAH, SO THE, THE, THE LEAF HAS BEEN A VERY STRONG CONTENDER HERE IN AUSTIN, AND THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER, UH, THAT THE LEAF ISN'T DETONATED OR DENOTED. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE THE LEAF HAS THAT LIGHT BLUE. 
          I THINK IT JUST, JUST GOT CROPPED OFF. 
          UH, AND I TRICKED BY, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT. 
          IT'S, UH, BASICALLY WHAT THE SHOWS THAT TAKES THE TOP SELLERS, ANY GIVEN NUMBER AND PULLS IT UP. 
          I JUST THINK I JUST CROPPED OFF THE TESLA, CAUSE I MEAN, THE LEAF IS THE LEAF AND TO YOUR POINT, THE BOAT HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, FAIRLY WELL RECEIVED HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I'LL ASK MY TEAM TO, UH, LOOK INTO, UH, UM, THAT MODEL, THAT THE BOTTOM AND THE VANTAGE OF YOUR QUESTION, SIR. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          THAT WAS REALLY, THAT'S BEEN A CORE OF A LOT OF THE BUYERS HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, SO, UH, NO, NOT A SURPRISE, UH, WITH JUST LOW, LOWER VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THROUGHOUT AUSTIN. 
          WE'RE ALSO, WE SAW A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN OUR PUBLIC, UH, CHARGING. 
          PEOPLE JUST WERE NOT DRIVING. 
          UH, IT DOES TRACK PRETTY WELL WITH REPORTS. 
          WE'RE SEEING ON, UH, LESS GASOLINE DURING THAT SAME TIME. 
          SO THERE WAS A REPORT DONE IN HOUSTON. 
          SO THE MONTH OF APRIL HOUSTON HAD A 66% DROP IN GASOLINE SALES. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BIG DROP, THAT'S THE APRIL DROP, IT KIND OF TRACKS RELATIVELY CLOSELY TO GASOLINE. 
          AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT COME BACK UP AS PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GET BACK ON. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE WITHOUT THAT SAID, THOUGH, WE STILL SEE A STRONG SURGE IN SOME OF OUR CO CORE PROGRAMS. ONE IS E-BIKES. 
          SO BIKES AND EBIKES HAVE REALLY SEEN A SURGE DURING THE PANDEMIC. 
          WE'RE SEEING THAT IN OUR PROGRAM, A REBATE, WE HAVE REBATES BOTH FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO BUY EBIKES AND FLEETS THAT WANT TO PROVIDE A FLEET ELECTRIFICATION FOR DELIVERY SERVICES, ET CETERA. 
          SO A STRONG GROWTH YOU'LL SEE ON THE BIKE REBATES, UH, THIS YEAR, UH, AND ALSO STRONG GROWTH IN THE HOME CHARGING LEVEL TO REBATES PEOPLE ARE BUYING THOSE CHARGERS AS WELL. 
          UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S INTERESTING AS WELL. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE, CAMERON, TO TALK TO YOU, TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CITY FLEET, ELECTRIFICATION CAMERAS. 
          UH, THANK YOU, CARL AND THE COMMISSION. 
          UH, I LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS THAT, UH, WE ARE DOING AS THE CITY OF AUSTIN AROUND ELECTRIFICATION, THE FIRST BEING OUR OWN CITY LEADS AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO ELECTRIFY THE FLEET. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD AN INTERIM GOAL SET FOR 330 VEHICLES TO BE ELECTRIFIED OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS AND INTO THE NEXT YEAR, UH, BASED ON RETIREMENT SCHEDULES THAT WERE, UH, THAT WERE LOOKED AT FOR THE CURRENT FLEET OF VEHICLES CURRENTLY, WHERE WE'RE AT 200 WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, PROBABLY CLOSER TO TWO 50 NOW, UM, WITH, UH, EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE METRIC TONS OF CO2 AND THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET OF THOSE VEHICLES BY QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THAT BY DEPLOYING CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ALL OF THOSE VEHICLES AT VARIOUS CITY OF AUSTIN FACILITIES TO SUPPORT THEM. 
          UH, SO FAR WE HAVE 93 LEVEL TWOS, UH, PORTS AT 20 DIFFERENT FACILITIES, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE AND REALLY SUPPORT FLEET IN, UH, ENTITIES LIKE OUR BUILDING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ELECTRIC CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE MORE RAPIDLY AS THESE VEHICLES COME ONLINE THROUGH DIFFERENT CONTRACTING MECHANISMS, AS WELL AS FUTURE-PROOFING OUR NEW FACILITIES, TWO PRIME EXAMPLES BEING THE NEW, UH, HIGHLY MALL DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CENTER, AS WELL AS THE NEW AUSTIN ENERGY HEADQUARTERS IN, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND IN TERMS OF FLEET ELECTRIFICATION AS WELL, IS THAT, UH, THE EFFORTS THAT CAPITAL METRO IS DOING WITH BUS ELECTRIFICATION, UH, CURRENTLY THEY NOW HAVE 12 BATTERY ELECTRIC BUSES IN THEIR FLEET WITH PLANS TO GET AN ADDITIONAL 19 OF THE 40 FOOT ELECTRIC BUSES OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THERE 
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ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT COULD INCREASE THE SPEED AT WHICH THAT HAPPENS. 
          UH, ONE BEING THE PASSAGE OF PROJECT CONNECT, POTENTIALLY AS WELL AS GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES CAPITAL WITH METRO HAS RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT, UM, UM, ADMINISTRATION FOR, UH, ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC BUSES. 
          AND AS MORE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES COME UP THAT COULD EXTRACT THIS, UH, TO SUPPORT THAT CAPITAL METRO, ALONG WITH AUSTIN ENERGY, DEVELOP THE NORTH OSS BOOK, NORTH OPS BUS DEPOT, UH, OFF MCNEIL DRIVE AS A CHARGING FACILITY FOR OVER 200 BUSES ONSITE, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY CAPITAL METRO WORKS TOGETHER PRETTY EARLY ON IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THEY FUTURE-PROOF THAT FACILITY. 
          SO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND DO LIKE DIG UP, UH, CONCRETE AND LAY LARGE CONDUITS, ENSURING THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE SPACING FOR TRANSFORMERS AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE ON SITE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE INCLUDED WITHIN THE CIVIL AND ELECTRICAL DESIGN, UM, THAT THEY WERE DONE UP FRONT AND NOT HAVING TO RETROFIT FACILITIES. 
          UM, ALSO WITH THE PASSAGE OF A, UH, THE PUBLIC CHARGING PILOT RATE, WHICH CARL MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IS MEANT TO ENCOURAGE HIGH USES APPLICATIONS, SUCH AS BUS CHARGING BAR DEPOTS OF DC FAST CHARGING. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS DESIGNED AT COST OF SERVICE FOR FULL RECOVERY FOR AUSTIN ENERGY. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND I ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT, UH, WAYS THAT WE'RE FUTURE PROOFING, UM, THROUGH OUR AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS AROUND ED READINESS IN HOW WE ARE PREPPING FOR THE INCREASED ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES. 
          UM, ONE OF THE MEASURES WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL GREEN BUILDING RATING IS THAT ALL TIMBER 10% OF ALL NEW PARKING SPACES AT THESE COMMERCIAL FACILITIES GOING THROUGH GREEN BUILDING E V READY, UM, AND THE INTENT FOR THAT IS TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE COSTS FOR FUTURE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          UM, WHAT THAT TITLE IS, IS THINGS LIKE SIZING YOUR TRANSFORMERS CORRECTLY AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION SIZING PANELS AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS MUCH LIKE THE CAP METRO LOT IS LAYING THAT CONDUIT OR RUNNING IT THROUGH WALLS NOW. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AND DO A RETROFIT ON OUR FACILITY. 
          SO AVOIDING THOSE COSTLY RETROFITS, UM, ALL DONE ON A NATIONAL WINTER CODE STANDARDS, UM, IN, IN SIZINGS, UM, NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL PASS IT BACK OVER TO CARL ON THE WORK WE HAVE DONE AROUND ELECTRIC TRANSPORTATION FOR THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY. 
          THANK YOU, CAMERON. 
          SO THIS IS STILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          IT'S MOVING, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO A FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS HERE TODAY, INCLUDING ON THE COMMISSION HAVE WORKED ON THIS. 
          UH, ONE OF THE SECTIONS IS ON TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION AS FAR AS THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN. 
          AND JUST TO SHOW YOU, HERE'S KIND OF THE THREE GOALS AND ALL THEIR ENTIRETY FOR, FOR YOU TO HAVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THEM ALREADY, BUT JUST KIND OF AS A HIGHLIGHT IS ONE OF THE BIG GOALS IS TO HAVE A 40% OF VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, UH, DONE BY ELECTRIC BY 2030 IS KIND OF ONE OF THE OVERREACHING, UH, ASPIRATIONS AND GOALS OF THIS PLAN AS OF RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THEN, SO I WANT TO GIVE HIM AN UPDATE FOR EBS, FOR EVERYONE, EVS FOR EVERYONE WE, UH, DEVELOPED, UH, OVER THREE YEARS AGO WITH A SEED GRANT FROM A PHILANTHROPIC ORGANIZATION CALLED THE 11TH HOUR PROJECT, UH, THAT, THAT GOT US A CONTRACTOR TO START THESE PROGRAMS. UM, AND REALLY WHAT IT IS, IS JUST THROUGHOUT THE UTILITY AROUND TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION, UH, REALLY WITH THE GOAL OF MOBILITY THAT IS EQUITABLE, AFFORDABLE, AND ACCESSIBLE. 
          AND SO THIS HAS, UH, RESULTED IN QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUTREACH PROGRAMS DEVELOPED AND DESIGNED WITH THE COMMUNITIES WITH THEM, FOR THEM BY THEM. 
          UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS CONDUCTED HUNDREDS OF E-BIKE ACCESS AND SAFETY TRAININGS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND BIKES ARE FOR EVERYONE TO EAT BIKES ARE FOR EVERYONE, GET PEOPLE TO TRY THEM OUT. 
          UH, IT ALSO HAS EXPANDED THE MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UM, CHARGING AND BEING PROACTIVE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTIES AND, UH, EAST AUSTIN CRESCENT AND OTHER PROPERTIES BEING, HAVING SOMEONE ON THE GROUND BEING MORE PROACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS. AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IN FYI 20 CITY COUNCIL, AS PART OF OUR LARGER BUDGET, DID APPROVE THIS TO BE A CITY FULL TIME EMPLOYEE JUST TO INSTITUTIONALIZE THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. 
          UH, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF BABIES FOR EVERYONE IS THAT EVS FOR SCHOOLS PROGRAM. 
          UH, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, UH, EVS FOR SCHOOLS WAS LAUNCHED, UH, A TIME KIND OF A STACEY. 
          IT ALL SEEMS LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN A DAY OR TWO YEARS, UH, BUT ROUGHLY 18 MONTHS AGO. 
          UM, REALLY, AND IT WAS DESIGNED FROM GROUND ONE WHEN WE LAUNCHED IT, UH, PART OF THE CRITERIA BEING SELECTED FOR ONE OF THESE FOUR PILOT SCHOOLS WAS A HIGH 
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POPULATION OF CHILDREN FROM LOW INCOME FAMILIES, UH, UH, FAMILIES, UH, AND SINCE THEN IT'S REALLY HAS TAKEN OFF. 
          I, I COULDN'T EVEN WISH FOR STRONGER METRICS OR GOALS OR PARTICIPATION WHEN WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. 
          SO SINCE WE'VE LAUNCHED AT 795 TEACHERS AT 122 SCHOOLS HAVE UTILIZED THIS ED LESSON. 
          SO IT'S A STEM BASED TRAINING. 
          IT'S AN ONLINE PLATFORM, IT'S ALL ABOUT FUNDAMENTALS, ABOUT EVS, THE CLIMATE CONCERNS, IT'S STEM BASED TRAINING. 
          AND THEN SOME SCHOOLS ALSO INCORPORATED. 
          AND WE ALSO PUT IN CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS, AND THEN AS PART OF THE STEM TRAINING, UH, THE KIDS AS PART OF A LAB COULD ALSO TREAT THOSE CHARGING DEVICES, UH, LIKE, UH, LIKE A LAB DEVICE. 
          UH, SO IN RESPONSE TO COVID THE CURRICULUM WAS MADE ONLINE, IT REALLY HELPS DRIVE PARTICIPATION AND THEN ALSO MADE IT FREE OF CHARGE TO FAMILIES LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY TO SUPPORT AT HOME LEARNING. 
          UH, AND PART OF A 2.0 OFFERING IT'S NOW OFFERED IN SPANISH. 
          UH, AND THEN AT THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES, UH, OVER 6,800 SCHOOLS WOULD SEE THAT CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND HAVE THE COURSEWORK AND THE CLASSES EXPOSED TO IT. 
          THAT WAY WE DID WORK WITH A PARTNER OF OURS, Z PRIME, WHO CREATED A VIRTUAL REALITY EXPERIENCE ON EVS TO INCLUDE A TERM OF ELECTRIC DRIVE. 
          UH, AND THAT WAS RECENTLY UPDATED TO 2.0, WHICH FEATURES STEVIE, THE ED LOVING T-REX AND A VR EXPERIENCE. 
          UH, WE GET CALLED ALL THE TIME BY OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND CITIES AND UTILITIES. 
          HEY, HOW CAN WE DO THIS HERE? UH, WE DID DESIGN THE CURRICULUM TO BE, UM, IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. 
          CAUSE WHEN YOU WORK IN THE SCHOOLS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE VERY LOW COST OF ENTRY. 
          AND THAT WAS JUST KIND OF PART OF THE GRANT AND THE PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S JUST A LISTING OF SOME OF THE ENTITIES WHO HAVE TAKEN THIS CURRICULUM AND REGIONALIZED IT FOR THEMSELVES AND, YOU KNOW, SOUTHERN CAL EDISON IN SACRAMENTO, BOSTON, ET CETERA. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND SO THIS WAS ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT LAUNCHED THE EBS BUYER'S GUIDE. 
          THIS IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER UTILITY, UH, DOING THIS AND WHAT IT WAS IS WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE A ONE STOP SHOP FOR AUSTINITES TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY AVAILABLE AND THE PROS AND CONS OF DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND MODELS. 
          SO YOU CAN CHECK THAT OUT NOW TODAY  DOT COM AND THEN NOVEMBER, WE'RE LAUNCHING A 2.0 VERSION, WHAT 2.0 DOES IT HAS REAL TIME DATA FEEDS. 
          SO NOT ONLY WILL IT TELL YOU ALL ABOUT THE INCENTIVES AND THE VEHICLES THAT ARE GENERALLY IN INVENTORY, IT WILL SHOW YOU THE SPECIFIC CAR ON THE LOT. 
          AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS REALLY SPEED UP THE SELL OF EVS. 
          THERE WAS A MAJOR BARRIER IN CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE GOING TO A TYPICAL DEALERSHIP, WALK IN THE DOOR, AND IT WAS REALLY JUST A MIXED BAG OF WHAT KIND OF LEVEL OF SERVICE OR INFORMATION THEY WOULD GET. 
          UH, SO A LITTLE, A SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR COLLABORATION PARTNERS ON THIS, UH, TECH, CETERA, WHICH, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH WORKS ON SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS BUZZ WHO'S ONE OF THE TOP ED, UH, SALESPEOPLE IN THE STATE, UH, HELPED HOST A BARBECUE LUNCH AT THE KICKOFF EVENT WITH MAYOR ADLER AND OTHERS. 
          UH, AND AS WELL AS JUST HELP KIND OF GUIDE US THROUGH WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS THAT A REAL ED CELLS, UH, STAFF AND MANAGERS ARE HAVING. 
          SO WE THINK IT REALLY KIND OF HITS IT'S HITTING ON ALL CYLINDERS. 
          UM, THIS WAS PART OF BLOOMBERG CLIMATE CITIES CHALLENGE GRANT, UH, AS, AS WELL. 
          AND IT REALLY HAS, SO IT HAS THE ONLINE, IT ALSO HAS IN SOME DEALERSHIP AND SEE, AND NUMBER TWO JUST LOOKS LIKE A BIG IPHONE. 
          IT'S VERY SLICK WAY OF SIMPLIFYING THE EASE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE'VE ALSO SIMPLIFIED THROUGH AN APP, THE EASE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO PEOPLE CAN MORE READILY KNOW WHAT VEHICLES, UH, WHAT THEIR VEHICLE CAN CHARGE AND HOW QUICKLY AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND JUST IN, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE DO A CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS IS WE ALWAYS START EVERY MEETING WITH A SAFETY MOMENT AND THEY END WITH A, WITH A CUSTOMER, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE MOMENT. 
          UM, SO I'LL AT LEAST END WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE MOMENT. 
          UH, I'M JUST VERY, UH, HONORED TO WORK WITH THESE COLLEAGUES HERE WHO WORK DAILY WITH, UH, US AUSTIN ENERGY CUSTOMERS ON THEIR QUESTIONS AROUND DRIVING ELECTRIC. 
          AND THE FEEDBACK HAS ALWAYS BEEN REALLY GOOD. 
          AND THEN JUST MORE, UH, PROCESS WISE, ALL THE ED INCENTIVE PROGRAMS NOW WITH THE LATEST E-BIKE FIENDISH AND ARE NOW A HUNDRED PERCENT DIGITAL PAPERS FREE THROUGH AN ONLINE SYSTEM THAT ALSO HAS SOME SELF HELP TOOLS AND PORTALS ONCE AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO RAISE THAT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND NEXT SLIDE AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME AND THIS CONCLUDES MINE AND CAMERON'S BRIEFING. 
          SO PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH. 
          I WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON A LOT OF THE WORK THEY'RE DONE. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S REALLY A KIND OF A MODEL. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVERYBODY ON THE SAME ROW AS YOU 
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ARE IN OUR VIDEOS IS BEARDED, WHICH EVERY BODY ON IS, HAS GOT A BEARD ON THIS. 
          THERE ARE, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF IT. 
          I THINK YOUR IMMEDIATE GIRL, UH, WOULD JUST SAY MAYBE CAMERON STARTED THAT, UH, THAT, UH, PHASE AND OUR TEAM AND EVERYONE THOUGHT CAMERON LOOKS SO GOOD WITH IT. 
          WE ALL STARTED MIMICKING HIM OR ABS, UH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF SLIDES YOU HAD IN YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS. 
          COULD YOU GO DOWN TO THEM? CAUSE I THINK THERE'S ONE OR TWO OF THEM THAT WERE REALLY ILLUSTRATIVE BEFORE YOU'RE GOING PAST. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          COULD WE GET THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? COULD WE GET THE PRESENTATION BACK UP THE NEXT SLIDE? IT'S JUST RIGHT AFTER THAT FINAL SLIDE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO I THINK I HAVE THREE BACKUPS. 
          SO THIS IS ONE THAT'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT MEDIUM AND HEAVY DUTY. 
          IS THAT THE SLIDE? DO YOU WANT IT TO ASK QUESTIONS OR HAVE US TALK ABOUT, OR WAS IT ONE OR TWO SLIDES? SO I THINK THAT THE, I THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THAT SEEM TO ME TO BE A PERFECT FIT AND AUSTIN GIVEN OUR AIR QUALITY PROBLEMS WAS THE SORT OF MEDIUM DUTY DELIVERY VEHICLE, THE UPS TRUCK AS IT WERE, OR, UM, THE FANS LIKE AMAZON USES, WHICH USES WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE BUILT BY RIBBON. 
          DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PROGRAM IN WORKS TO BEGIN TO INCENTIVIZE THE PURCHASE OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT MAKE, UM, FOLKS WHAT TO HELP PROVIDE THAT INFO THAT TECHNOLOGY HERE? CERTAINLY. 
          SO THERE'S TWO THINGS. 
          ONE IS THERE IS A LOT OF OUTREACH GOING ON AND AT ONE TIME WE EVEN HAD SOMEONE, UH, TALK TO ALL THE MAJOR FLEET MANAGERS IN AUSTIN TO GET A FEEL FOR THE PULSE ON ELECTRIFICATION. 
          AND SO WE LEARNED TWO THINGS. 
          UH, SO ONE, DO WE HAVE A PROGRAM? YES. 
          SO IF YOU GO TO, IF I CAN SNEAK INTO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO THIS IS A PILOT RATE TO INCENTIVE AND TO GIVE INCENTIVES TO FLEET MANAGERS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND A NEW OPTION THEY COULD DO TO POTENTIALLY LOWER THEIR ELECTRIC FEELING COSTS. 
          SO, SO WE DO NOW HAVE A PILOT FOR FLEET AND INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO THIS IS ALSO FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME IN AND DO VC FAST PUBLIC. 
          UH, SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, BUT WHAT WE FOUND AND THIS INFORMATION WAS ABOUT 12 MONTHS AGO. 
          SO CATHERINE, WHO, YOU KNOW, IS THE ONE THAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUR FLEET MANAGERS. 
          AND SO FOR THE BIGGER AMAZONS OF THE WORLD, WHAT WE'RE HEARING IS THEY WERE PROBABLY ROLLING THAT OUT INTO STATES FIRST THAT HAD MORE INCENTIVES FOR EXAMPLE, CALIFORNIA AND OTHERS, BECAUSE THERE WAS MORE A STATE INCENTIVES, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO GET THE LESSONS LEARNED AND EVENTUALLY THAT WOULD BE NATIONWIDE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROBABLY SEEING THE EARLIER ADOPTERS OF SOME OF THOSE NEW TECHNOLOGIES. 
          UH, SO OUR MAJOR FLEET, UH, INITIATIVE RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN WITH CHAT METRO, WHICH IS STILL EXPANDING. 
          UH, THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT A NEW INFRASTRUCTURE IN ADDITION TO UP TO THE 200 BUSES THAT THE NORTH AUSTIN FEELING CENTER COULD BE. 
          AND OUR OTHER ACTIVE FLEET PROGRAM IS THE CITY FLEET PROGRAM ITSELF, UH, 200 EVS AND GROWING, JUST SO WE LEARN BETTER. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THERE'S A THIRD SLIDE HERE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE CLIMATE PLAN AND I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL HAVE MORE, I SUSPECT LATER, LET ME GO BACK, ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION, CARL, WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF TESLA BAN AND WHAT KINDS OF PLANS DO YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM, PARTICULARLY AROUND THEIR EQUITY COMMITMENT? AND AS YOU RECALL, AND NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS PROVIDING NONPROFITS, UM, VEHICLES OR ASSISTANCE IN GETTING VEHICLES TO HELP WITH THEIR VARIOUS NEEDS. 
          AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTERNAL TALK WITHIN TECH, ET CETERA, AND WITH SOMEBODY OTHER PARTICIPANTS, BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT YOU'RE HEARING, WHAT, YEAH. 
          ALSO A COMMISSIONER SAID, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF THE MORE MEATIER CONVERSATIONS I HAD WAS AT ONE OF THE TECH STARTER MEETINGS, UH, WITH THE GENTLEMAN FROM TESLA TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AS WELL. 
          UH, AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME FOLLOW UP DIALOGUE TO TRY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, OEMS AND OTHER MAJOR PLAYERS JUST ON THE EQUITY PLAY, UH, UBER, UM, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR BIKE FLEET, WE WORKED, WE PARTNERED WITH THEM. 
          THEY HAD A THING FOR $5 A MONTH FOR A ELECTRIC BIKE AND WE WERE PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH THEM. 
          BUT THEN WE KIND OF HAD THE SCOOTER, AN ELECTRIC PIPE KIND OF A BLOW OUT DURING THE, DURING THE PEN THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, 
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UH, ALSO WHEN MAVEN WAS IN TOWN ABOUT, UH, THESE MICRO GRANTS TO SEE IF LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE WANTED TO DRIVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE TO BE A GIG ECONOMY DRIVER. 
          SO WE ARE GETTING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MOMENTUM THERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING RIGHT NOW IS A KIND OF, A LOT OF THESE NICHE AND PILOTS, AND I HOPE LIKE EBS FOR SCHOOLS OR SOMETHING. 
          ONE OF THEM REALLY STARTS GETTING MOMENTUM. 
          UM, BUT UH, SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR QUESTION OF TESLA, IT'S REALLY BEEN AROUND THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THAT EXTRA, AND THEN A BRIEF FOLLOW UP, BUT NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CARL AND CAMERON, ARE THERE, ARE THERE OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS TOPIC, JONATHAN, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ONE FOR CARL ARE, ARE YOU GUYS CONNECTED, OPENING UP YOUR, YOUR PILOT EDB, UM, HOME CHARGING PROGRAM? AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S CLOSED NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? SO YOU'RE PROBABLY REFERRING TO AB THREE 60. 
          THAT'S THE ONE CAP OF 100 PARTICIPANTS TO BE A TIME OF USE. 
          IS, IS THAT THE PROGRAM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR IS THERE ANOTHER PROGRAM? THAT'S THE ONE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE RECENTLY PUBLISHED A WHITE PAPER WITH THE FINDINGS OF THAT AB THREE 60. 
          SO THE PROGRAM TEAM IS TAKING LESSONS LEARNED. 
          UM, ONE OF THE, UM, BARRIERS TO SCALABILITY IS RIGHT NOW THAT PILOT, UM, DUE TO THE TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS, AND ONE OF THEM IS DEVELOPED, REQUIRES A SUB METER AT THE PREMISE. 
          SO NOT ONLY IS THERE A CERTAIN COST AND COMPLEXITY WITH THAT, IT ALSO KIND OF REMOVES PARTICIPATION POTENTIALLY FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO AREN'T IN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. 
          SO WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE DO HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE TO BE NOTIFIED AS SOON AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. 
          LAST TIME IT LOOKED, WE HAD ABOUT 650 PEOPLE ON IT. 
          SO WE DO THINK THERE'S INTEREST. 
          AND SO THAT IS JUST WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS, IS $30, UM, OFF PEAK CHARGING. 
          IT'S A HOME AND AWAY PROGRAM. 
          SO IT INCLUDES ENROLLMENT IN THE PUBLIC CHARGING. 
          AND THEN IT'S ALSO UNLIMITED CHARGING AT HOME AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT CHARGING DURING PEAK AND CHARGING DURING PEAK ACTUALLY QUITE CUMULATIVE, THEY CAN GO UP TO 41 CENTS PER KILOWATT HOUR IF YOU CHARGE DURING FEE. 
          SO IT TRULY IS A TIME OF YOU SHEDDING. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS OUR WHITE PAPER SHOWED. 
          SO OUT OF THE A HUNDRED PARTICIPANTS, UM, IT BASICALLY WORKS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME TO PUSH OFF PEAK, BUT 99% OF THE PARTICIPANTS, WE HAVE ONE PARTICIPANT AND JUST DOESN'T CARE AS CHARGED DURING THE PEAK IN THOSE PEANUTS. 
          UH, SO I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ALSO NOTICED FINANCIAL UTILITY. 
          IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT PEOPLE PLUGIN AT. 
          I MEAN, IT, IT IS A FLAT RATE, BUT IT IS, UM, PRETTY COMPARABLE THAT $30 A MONTH IS BASICALLY WHAT SOMEONE'S ELECTRIC BILL, EVEN IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY JUST KIND OF PLUG IN WITH NORMAL DRIVING HABITS, THAT'S KIND OF INTEREST AS WELL. 
          IT'S JUST MORE OF A DIFFERENT WAY TO MANAGE YOUR BILL RATHER THAN A BIG COST SAVINGS. 
          UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS WE ARE CURRENTLY EVALUATING THAT PROGRAM. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THAT. 
          WE KIND OF WANT THE TECHNOLOGY TO RAMP UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON TO BE ABLE TO REMOVE THAT SUB METER MORE THAN THE TELEMATICS OF THE VEHICLE ITSELF TO MAKE IT SCALABLE, PASS THAT 100, BUT IT HAS BEEN A, SO FAR SOME VERY GOOD LESSONS LEARNED AND WE HOPE TO OPEN IT UP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MAKES, MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR CAMERON AS WELL REGARDING THE, UH, THE CITY'S EBV, UH, KIND OF PLATE CHANGEOVER. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS HAD SEEN, UM, SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL OPERATIONAL SAVINGS. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG FINANCIAL DRAWS WITH EVS THAT'S THAT THEY'RE JUST SO MUCH CHEAPER TO OPERATE. 
          UM, HAVE YOU GUYS GOT, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE SOME TYPE OF WHITE PAPER OR PACKAGING THE DATA AROUND THAT TO KIND OF SHOW THE DIFFERENCE IN OPERATIONAL COSTS BETWEEN THE TWO MODES, RIGHT. 
          UH, CERTAINLY. 
          AND, UM, AND SO OUR FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH, UH, US IN THE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE DID SOME SORT OF PROJECTIONS BOTH ON FUEL AND MAINTENANCE. 
          I MEAN, WHEN I SAY OPERATIONAL COSTS REALLY IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THOSE TWO THINGS IS FUEL AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, AND SO THEY'RE TRACKING ALONG WITH THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE IN, UM, FROM, I GUESS, 18 MONTHS, 24 MONTHS IN NOW, UH, THEY'RE EITHER TRACKING AT OR ABOVE WHAT WAS PROJECTED. 
          SO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A CASE STUDY FOR, UH, FOR A FLEET ELECTRIFICATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A GOOD EXAMPLE TO OTHER MUNICIPAL FLEETS AS FAR AS LIKE, IT'S NOT JUST AN ENVIRONMENTAL THING THAT THERE'S ALSO AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT POTENTIALLY AS WELL. 
          UM, AND, UM, BUT YEAH, LONG ANSWER LONG, UH, YES, BUT THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE FROM CITY FLEET SERVICES, 
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UH, WAS APPROXIMATELY $10,000 PER VEHICLE, TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP SAVINGS. 
          THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE PURPOSE INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD. 
          UH, SO THAT THAT'S WHERE THE 330 VEHICLES ESTIMATE 3.5 MILLION OF SAVINGS TO THE CITY OVER 10 YEARS. 
          PLUS YOU ALSO HAVE THE REDUCE EMISSIONS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          IT'S, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO THEN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT PREDICTION FROM CITY POLICE SERVICES AND AS THEY'RE STARTING TO ROLL THEM OUT, COMPARE IT TO THE ACTUAL YEAH, I THINK THE MORE YOU'RE ABLE TO KIND OF JUST SHOW THE, THE OVERALL ROI, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MORE ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SELL THIS TO OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AUSTIN, UH, BUT ALSO IN OTHER GOVERNMENTS ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW KIND OF THAT THE FINANCIAL BACKING THERE. 
          I THINK IT'S QUITE POWERFUL. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IT. 
          I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. 
          AS YOU SAID, A FOLLOW UP UP TO THE POINT YOU MADE CARL ABOUT MEETING THE SECOND LEADER FOR THE CHARGING RATE, AND I'M JUST WONDERING, OR THAT ARE GOING IN, THAT ARE WIFI ENABLED. 
          IS, IS THAT IN ANY WAY, A BACKEND WAY THAT COULD BE UTILIZED TO, I DUNNO TO ELIMINATE THAT NAME? DEFINITELY. 
          SO WE LOOK AT BOTH WIFI ENABLED SUB-METERING AND CAR TELEMATICS. 
          SO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THE PROGRAM EARLY HERE AND A HALF AGO TO MEET THE THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED UTILITY GRADE METER REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH THE, WITH THE SUB METER. 
          UH, IT ALSO ALLOWED US THE EASIEST WAY TO INTEGRATE IN WITH OUR BILLING SYSTEM CCNB. 
          AND SO THAT'S REALLY GIVEN US THE GRANULARITY WE WANT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE SCALABLE. 
          UH, IT'S ALSO WHY TODAY, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT USING IT FOR THIS PILOT, IS IF SOMEONE BUYS A WIFI ENABLED LEVEL TWO HOME CHARGER, THE REBATE CAP IS A LITTLE HIGHER TO ENCOURAGE THAT THE RE REBATE CAP IS $1,200 VERSUS 900 OR NON-WIFI ENABLED. 
          CAUSE THAT WILL VERY LIKELY HAVE THAT COULD STRONGLY BE THE PATHWAY MOVING FORWARD. 
          THIRD WOULD BE THE TELEMATICS OF THE CAR THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE MOST INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE CAR THAT DOES THE CHARGING. 
          SO NOT ONLY COULD YOU MONITOR OR MANAGE THAT WHEN IT'S AT HOME CHARGING, BUT ALSO WHEN IT'S AWAY IN DIFFERENT STATIONS, THE MAIN BARRIER THERE IS, UM, OEM PARTICIPATION AND REALLY WANTED TO SAFEGUARD THAT RELATIONSHIP AND HOW THAT DATA WORKS. 
          BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT AND THAT WILL LIKELY BE THE TECHNICAL SOLUTION THAT SOME SORT OF WIFI VICE IN OUR PROGRAMS KIND OF ARE ALREADY STARTING TO HINT AT RIGHT NOW, AS WE LET THE TECHNOLOGY EMERGE. 
          IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT, WELL, THAT'S, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT. 
          UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE EASILY INTEGRATED INTO THE BILLING SYSTEM OR, UM, OR NOT? I'M JUST THINKING TO THE, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR CORRECTIONAL BILLING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GO LIVE AND THAT'S JUST BEEN A REAL, UH, DIFFICULT PROCESS. 
          IS THIS GOING TO BE SIMILAR? YEAH, SO I I'VE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT BUILDING PROJECTS AND FRANKLY I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT'S EASY TO INTEGRATE WITH AND FRANKLY, UM, SO I WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE, UH, BARRIERS AND A LOT OF DETAILS, EVEN INTEGRATING CCNB WITH OUR A HUNDRED PERSON PILOT, UH, TOOK SIGNIFICANT PEOPLE HOURS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND WORK AND LONG MEETINGS JUST, BUT WE WANTED IT BECAUSE WE WANTED THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          AND THEN WE WANTED THAT SCALABILITY. 
          SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THE FACT THAT WE'VE ALREADY INTEGRATED IN THE PILOT WITH CCNB MEANS OUR PATHWAY IS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR. 
          AND IF WE JUST WOULD HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, EXCEL SPREADSHEETS OR SOME, OR THE, YOU KNOW, PILOT WORKAROUND, BUT ANY CHANGE TO CCB, UH, IS, IS CAN BE KIND OF SLOW AND PAINFUL IN MY EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THAT'S DUE TO, UH, RELEASE CYCLES SIX MONTH RELEASE CYCLES AND GO LIVE DATES AND JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMPETING INTERESTS ON MAKING THOSE DIFFERENT VERSION OF GRADES. 
          ANY OTHER, OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO EVS OR ANY OF THE TOPICS DISCUSSED? OKAY. 
          WELL, CARL AND CAMERON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UM, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. 
          AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. 
          UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF INNOVATION GOING ON AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE WITH US AND PREPARE THIS UPDATE FOR US. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          OUR PLEASURE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
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THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO DO A REAL QUICK TIME CHECK IT'S JUST AFTER, UH, SEVEN 15. 
          UM, AND SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF ITEMS IN THE NEXT 45 MINUTES. 
          UM, BUT NOW MOVING ON TO OLD 
          [5. Discussion and possible action regarding support of the Austin Climate Equity Plan.]
BUSINESS, UM, HERE WE HAVE ADAM FIVE IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING SUPPORT OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN. 
          UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I BELIEVE, UH, KIVA SUGGESTED IN, IN JAMIE SENT AROUND A PROPOSED RESOLUTION, UM, THAT KAYLA, DID YOU WANT TO TALK THIS GROUP THROUGH THE CONTENTS OF THAT, UH, RESOLUTION? UH, SURE. 
          IT DID IT, DID EVERYBODY GET THAT RESOLUTION AT ALL HAVE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY AT THE TOP OF IT, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE WILL CHANGE IT TO SAY FROM THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION, WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING THAT UP IS WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, UM, THIS WAS ADOPTED BY THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY, UH, COMMITTEE, UH, BACK IN AUGUST. 
          UH, IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE FIRST DRAFT WAS RELEASED. 
          UM, SO NOT SUPER SPECIFIC ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S A GENERAL STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THE PLAN AS DRAFTED. 
          AND THEN IF YOU CAN JUST SCROLL DOWN, UH, TO THE NEXT PAGE, UM, A FEW, I GUESS ONE MORE PAGE PLEASE. 
          UM, AND THEN A FEW OTHER ITEMS KIND OF RELATED, THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S PERFECT. 
          UH, RELATED TO IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PLAN AND IT'S JUST ADOPTING THE PLAN AND, UM, ALSO THE, THE OVERALL GOAL AS YOU'LL SEE, IS BEING CHANGED. 
          I THINK YOU HEARD THAT FROM ZACH AND THEN THIS ISSUE OF KIND OF SETTING AN INTENTION TO LIMIT CARBON OFFSETS TO 10% OF THAT GOAL. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED WITH THE LAST OR THE CURRENT CLIMATE PLAN. 
          SO JUST MAINTAINING THAT, BUT THEN THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AROUND, UH, STARTING THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING FUNDING, BECAUSE THERE ARE DEFINITELY ELEMENTS OF THIS PLAN THAT DON'T HAVE FUNDING AND NEED FUNDING. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ITEMS NUMBERS THREE AND FOUR AROUND, UM, HAVING, YOU KNOW, PROPER ATTENTION AND OVERSIGHT FOR IMPLEMENTATION. 
          THERE IS CURRENTLY NO COUNCIL COMMITTEE THAT IS REALLY, UH, THAT'S DEDICATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AT ALL. 
          AND SO NUMBER THREE IS RECOMMENDING CREATING, UH, SUCH A COMMITTEE, UM, THAT WOULD OVERSEE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN. 
          AND THEN THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS HAVING MORE OUT LARGE MEMBERSHIP. 
          CURRENTLY EVERYBODY ON THAT COMMITTEE EXCEPT FOR ONE PERSON IS SERVING ON ANOTHER COMMISSION. 
          SO BY NATURE, WHERE, UM, WE'RE APPOINTED FROM OUR RESPECTIVE COMMISSIONS, WHICH IS GREAT FOR COORDINATION, BUT IT'S BAD FOR PEOPLE HAVING ENOUGH CAPACITY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLY DO WORK. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING NUMBER FOUR, UM, TO ADD A FEW MEMBERS THAT ARE OUT LARGE TO JUST, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME AND ATTENTION SPENT ON ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THE PLAN. 
          SO I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE JUST ADOPT THIS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, I WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IN SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION, BUT I'M PUTTING THIS FORTH, UM, AS WE ADOPTED IT AT THE COMMISSION, IF ANYBODY THINKS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CHANGE OR ADD OR WHATEVER, I'M OPEN TO THAT. 
          THANK YOU, KAYLA. 
          AND JUST TO, TO REMIND EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION, UM, YOUR ROLE ON THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE IS, IS REALLY REPRESENTING THE RMC, UM, IN THAT CAPACITY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          I AM THE, I'M SEEING A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AND ALSO SERVED ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE. 
          THE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN DYED BEING THE CREATION OF THIS NEW PLAN. 
          IT, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I REALLY JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TO SHOW THAT YOU IN, IN SOME WAYS THIS IS, UM, IT BY, BY YOUR SERVICE ON THAT COMMITTEE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REPRESENTING, UM, RMC IN SOME CAPACITY, UM, ALREADY. 
          UM, ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FOR, UM, KIVA EITHER REGARDING, UH, THIS SPECIFIC, THESE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS FOR LANGUAGE, UM, THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, UPDATED, 
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UM, BEFORE WE, UH, PROPOSE, UM, APPROVING OR RECOMMENDING THIS, MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION? OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO TAKE THE SILENCE TO MEAN THAT THE, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE, ARE ACCEPTING OF, OF THE LANGUAGE. 
          UM, AT THIS POINT I WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A, UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, MAYBE I SHOULD JUST QUICK WITH THE PROCEDURAL CHECK. 
          MAY WE APPROVE THIS LANGUAGE WITH THE UPDATE THAT YOU SUGGESTED, UM, TO CHANGE IT TO, TO RMC AND, AND CLEAN UP THE LANGUAGE? YEAH, THAT IS MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF I MAY, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT WE WOULD JUST BE PASSING THIS, UH, IN CHANGE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION TO RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL WOULD BE VOTING IF YOU DID, TO APPROVE THE LANGUAGE ON HERE, BUT JUST WITH DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TITLES THAT DATED TO REFLECT THAT IT'S THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION AND JAMIE, I BELIEVE THAT THE RECORD OF VOTE AND THE DATE OF APPROVAL, UM, AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM, I BELIEVE WE WOULD NEED TO UPDATE. 
          OF COURSE, OF COURSE I'LL RUN THAT BY Y'ALL BUT LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 
          SORRY TO SLOW Y'ALL DOWN. 
          NO, NO, THANK YOU. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT AND MOVE ADOPTION. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSION CINNAMON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS WITHOUT I BELIEVE THE MOST MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KAYLA, FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. 
          EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR. 
          IF I COULD JUST GET A CONFIRMATION FROM OUR COMMISSIONER, DIELMAN THAT? OH, I DIDN'T HEAR ALL THE BOATS. 
          MAKE SURE I'LL SEE IF MY, I'LL SEE IF MY COMPUTER IS WORKING. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. 
          I SEE HIS FACE THERE AND HE'S NOT IN ANY AFFIRMATIVE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THE RESOLUTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU  AND THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          MOVING ON TO 
          [6. Update from working group of Resource Management Commissioners to coordinate with the Office of Sustainability regarding the Austin Community Emissions Dashboard as it relates to Commission goals. (Members: White, Brenneman, Blackburn, Fralin, Babyak)]
ITEM SIX, UH, IS, UH, IS THERE AN UPDATE, UH, FROM THE, UM, AUSTIN COMMUNITY EMISSIONS, UH, WORKING GROUP, UH, THAT'S BEEN FORMED HERE IN ANY UPDATES FROM THAT GROUP. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE, THE MEMBERS OF THAT, UH, WORKING GROUP, OUR COMMISSIONERS, WHITE COMMISSIONER BREDAMAN COMMISSIONER BLACKBURN, COMMISSIONER FREELAND, AND COMMISSIONER VAN YAK. 
          YEAH. 
          DANA. 
          I WOULD BE, I, I CAN, I WAS ON THAT ARE THE MEETING AND I CAN GET KIND OF MY TAKEAWAY AND CHI. 
          NOW YOU MAY HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS TO SAY AS WELL, BUT I JUST KIND OF, UH, AS AN OVERVIEW, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE WERE DOING IS LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE CLIMATE PLAN, WHICH HAS A FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE TARGET. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THIS A NET ZERO BY 2040. 
          UM, THE TOOL ALLOWS YOU TO, UM, KINDA MODEL OUT WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND, AND WAYS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THAT TARGET. 
          AND I GUESS I HAD TWO MAIN TAKEAWAYS THAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WORTH MENTIONING. 
          UM, NUMBER ONE, UH, GETTING TO NET ZERO BY 2040 IS, UH, REQUIRES A FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE REDUCTION IN CO2 AND THE WAY, UH, UNDER ALMOST EVERY SCENARIO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT HAPPENS, IT REALIZE, UM, TO A, A LARGE DEGREE ON, UM, THIS BUCKET OF, OF OFFSETS, WHICH IS TO ME IS KIND OF LIKE A, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TECHNOLOGY WISE TO GET THERE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, ASSUME THAT WE CAN USE OFFSETS OR HOPE THAT THE TECHNOLOGY CATCHES UP THERE. 
          UM, AND WHILE, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE A VALID WAY TO GET TO NET ZERO, UH, IT, TO ME WOULD NOT BE THE PREFERRED WAY. 
          LIKE WE'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE. 
          AND SO THE FOLLOW ON TO THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER VARIOUS SCENARIOS, WHAT SECTORS ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE REDUCING. 
          AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THAT AUSTIN ENERGY IS ACTUALLY, UM, DOING THE BULK OF THE, OF THE 
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CARBON REDUCTIONS, UH, UNDER MOST SCENARIOS THAT, THAT, THAT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A LOT OF THE CONCRETE REDUCTIONS WE CAN GET ARE, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY DUE TO AUSTIN, ENERGY'S KIND OF GENERATIONS, WHICH, UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT I THINK THIS TOOL ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS, IT HAS A FAIRLY ROBUST PLAN TO, UM, TO GET TO NET ZERO. 
          AND WHAT THE TOOL ALLOWS US TO DO IS LOOK AT THOSE OTHER SECTORS AND TO, AND TO START TO, UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REMAINDER OF, OF OUR CARBON EMISSIONS. 
          AND SO I, I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PRACTICAL OUTPUTS OF THIS, I THINK, UH, IS THAT WE CAN START LOOKING IN GREATER DETAIL AT, UM, OTHER SECTORS, THE SIZE OF THE ELECTRICITY SECTOR, UM, AND, AND HOW TO, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE VARIOUS OTHER SOURCES OF CARBON. 
          UH, AND TO ME, THE MOST NATURAL ONE THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY PROBABLY HAVE MORE DIRECT INFLUENCE OVER IS, IS LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE GAS UTILITY AND HOW CAN WE, UM, WORK WITH THEM AND INCENTIVIZE THEM TO, UM, YOU KNOW, START TO PUT SOME, SOME HARD RE UH, TARGETS ON CARBON REDUCTION AND WHAT IS A PRACTICAL FRAMEWORK TO GET THERE. 
          SO I I'LL I'LL STOP THERE. 
          THANK YOU, JONATHAN. 
          ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS FROM FOLKS ON THE WORKING GROUP? I WAS WONDERING, I JUST REMEMBER, DID THAT DASHBOARD HAVE TRANSPORTATION IN IT? DO YOU REMEMBER? YES, IT DOES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS THAT YOU MADE, JONATHAN. 
          UM, YEAH, SO I GUESS, UM, JUST KIND OF TO ADD, UH, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS, THERE WASN'T REALLY ANY FEATURE I THINK ACTION NEEDED FROM THIS WORKING GROUP WAS MY, UH, TAKEAWAY. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I DO EXPECT THIS DASHBOARD WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. 
          UM, KEVIN, UH, THE PERSON WHO CREATED IT AT THE OPPOSITE, SUSTAINABILITY HAS COMMITTED THE, YOU KNOW, HAS, UM, HE GETS NEW SOURCES OF DATA AND WE, UH, AS A COMMUNITY COME UP WITH DIFFERENT, UM, SOLUTIONS THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT HE WILL ADD THOSE AS, UM, DIFFERENT, I DON'T KNOW, IT CAN BE TOGGLED ON AND OFF, UH, OR UP AND DOWN IN THE DASHBOARD. 
          SO I THINK THIS CAN BE SOMETHING THAT IS USED AS WE GO THROUGH IMPLEMENTATION ANY USEFUL AND YEAH, TO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE THINGS THAT JONATHAN SAID, AND I THINK WHAT REALLY BECOMES APPARENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DASHBOARD AND OF COURSE TRANSPORTATION HAS THIS HUGE CHUNK, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT TRANSPORTATION IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF SMALL SOURCES. 
          AND SO WITH AUSTIN ENERGY RAMPING DOWN AND MISSIONS AND HAVING A PLAN TO ELIMINATE EMISSIONS, THE SINGLE LARGE SOURCES ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          AND YET WE'RE STILL LEFT WITH A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EMISSIONS. 
          AND THEREFORE WE HAVE TO BE ADDRESSING ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SOURCES, EVEN IF THEIR PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTION ISN'T HUGE. 
          AND SO NO LONGER CAN WE JUST SAY, WELL, THAT'S ONLY 10% OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN THAT'S ONLY 5%, SO LET'S NOT FOCUS ON IT. 
          WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THE BIG POWER PLANTS, UH, WHICH WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AUSTIN'S POWER PLANTS WILL MOSTLY NOT BE PRODUCING EMISSIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE OTHER PIECES. 
          THANK YOU, KAI, EVA. 
          SO, UM, WITH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM UNDERSTANDING THE, UM, MAYBE I'M PULLING A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF YOU GUYS, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I, THAT I HEARD IT CORRECTLY, BUT IT, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT IT'S HELPFUL NOW THAT YOU KNOW, THE MEMBERS OF THIS WORKING GROUP OR AWARE OF THIS ADMISSIONS DASHBOARD AND AWARE THAT IT EXISTS. 
          UM, IT, WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, OKAY, WHEN CAN WE GO BACK AND REFERENCE THE DASHBOARD TO PERHAPS HELP SUPPORT EITHER DISCUSSIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS 
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AT THIS COMMISSION WITH, UM, WITH REGARD TO THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW, UM, SPECIFICALLY ELECTRICITY, GAS, WATER EFFICIENCY, AND CONSERVATION. 
          SO AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR NORMAL DUTIES AS A COMMISSION, WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE TO REFERENCE THAT TOOL THAT THIS BODY NOW HAS KNOWLEDGE OF AN ACCESS TO, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THOSE, UH, THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN INFORM OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THIS WORKING GROUP NEEDS TO CONTINUE AS A BODY ITSELF. 
          UM, DID Y'ALL SAY ALL OF THAT, OR AM I PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH? YEAH, DANA, I AGREE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SPECIFIC KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATION OR RESOLUTION THAT WILL HAS COME OUT OF IT, UH, TO DATE. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT IS HELPFUL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN OUR NORMAL COURSE OF EVENTS, WHEN WE HAVE, UH, FOLKS IN THE VARIOUS SECTORS THAT ARE NOT ELECTRICITY, BUT NOT BOSTON ENERGY, THAT, THAT WE, UH, CAN, CAN BE MORE PREPARED WITH DATA TO SHOW WELL, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR TARGET, HERE'S THE SLICE OF THAT, THAT, UM, YOU GUYS ARE CONTRIBUTING AND, AND HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOU TO, TO REDUCE THAT AND ULTIMATELY GET TO NET ZERO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JONATHAN. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER, UM, I GUESS COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS FROM, FROM THE WORKING GROUP? UM, AND, AND REALLY, I THINK WE'RE WHERE I'M HEADED WITH THIS IS FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE WORKING GROUP FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME AND THESE UPDATES AND FOR, FOR GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING PROCESS THAT YOU DID. 
          UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT AS, AS A BODY FOR YOU ALL TO, TO KIND OF, TO, TO HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE ON, ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMISSION. 
          UM, BUT I BELIEVE IN JAMIE, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WHETHER THIS REQUIRES ANY SORT OF LIKE FORMAL ACTION, BUT IT, IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE REALLY, WE CAN SAY THAT THIS WORKING GROUP HAS FULFILLED ITS DUTY, UM, TO DATE, AND WE CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, RECALL THIS NEW RESOURCE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US AS, AS NEEDED. 
          UM, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY TO, TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN NOW? MA'AM I DID NOT BELIEVE SO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO IN THAT CASE, I DO THINK THAT THAT MAY TAKE US NICELY TO, UM, ITEM 
          [8. Discuss future agenda items.]
EIGHT ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER AND HOW THE, THE EMISSIONS DASHBOARD MAY BE USEFUL, UH, WITH OUR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND JAMIE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE, UM, A BIT OF A RUNNING LIST, UM, STARTED FOR US. 
          WOULD YOU MIND, UH, REVIEWING THAT LIST AND THEN WE CAN OPEN IT UP IF THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO OUR, UM, UPCOMING MEETINGS? YES, MADAM CHAIR, UM, SPECIFICALLY FOR NOVEMBER, UM, THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY IS GOING TO COME FORWARD, NOT ONLY WITH THEIR QUARTERLY UPDATE, BUT ALSO ON THE, UH, ENHANCEMENTS TO THEIR CONSERVATION PROGRAMS THAT THEY REFERENCED. 
          UH, LAST TIME THEY'RE IN FRONT OF THIS, UM, TEXAS GAS SERVICE WILL BE DAVE FOR THEIR QUARTERLY UPDATE. 
          AND, UM, WE ALSO HOPE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM CUSTOMER ENERGY SOLUTIONS OF AUSTIN ENERGY ON, UH, CHANGES, ENHANCEMENTS TO THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM TO MAKE THAT ELIGIBLE MORE TOWARDS, UH, TO ALLOW MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS TO PARTICIPATE ALSO. 
          AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR MOVING FORWARD TO 2021. 
          SO I WILL DISTRIBUTE WHAT THE THIRD TUESDAYS ARE OF EVERY MONTH FOR THAT COMING YEAR. 
          AND I REALLY URGE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THEIR CALENDARS LOOK LIKE WITH VACATIONS, SCHOOL SCHEDULES, ET CETERA. 
          UM, SO WE CAN FORMALIZE THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN OLD BUSINESS, WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, SOLAR READY CODE ENFORCEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT Y'ALL DISCUSSED EARLIER, UM, PROVIDED THAT, UH, SOME COMMISSIONERS COULD COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE THAT THAT WOULD, UH, THEY HAVE ABOUT TO BRING FORWARD. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, JAMIE. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS REGARDING A FEW OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED. 
          UM, AM I RECALLING CORRECTLY THAT THE AUSTIN WATER UTILITY, UM, UPDATE WAS TIMELY, UM, BASED ON, UH, AN ITEM THAT THEY HAD GOING BEFORE COUNCIL, UM, AND THAT WHEN WE, WE NEED 
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TO PRIORITIZE FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          AND I ALSO LEFT OUT THAT THEY WILL BE SEEKING APPROVAL FROM THIS COMMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE TIMING RIGHT ON THAT ONE. 
          UM, AND THE, THE OTHER ITEM, UH, I GUESS THAT, THAT I HAD, I WANTED TO, UM, UH, DRAW OUR ATTENTION BACK TO MR. AHRENS COMMENTS, UH, IN THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM AND, UM, UH, HOME REPAIR, UH, PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND, AND REALLY THIS ISN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OVERSTEPPING HERE, BUT I ALSO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN MY LINE OF WORK, SEE A REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD DISCUSS OR CONSIDER WAYS THAT THOSE PROGRAMS MAY BE INTEGRATED. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION TOPIC, UM, FOR THIS COMMISSION IN PART, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT HOME REPAIR, UM, IN MANY CASES CAN PREVENT IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF WEATHERIZATION AND, AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY SERVICES. 
          SO I, I THINK WE COULD ARGUE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY OFFERED YOU, BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS WHAT THE, WHAT THE COMMISSION THINKS ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN ALSO OPEN TO ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO ADD, INTERRUPT, COMING MEETINGS. 
          I LIKED THAT IDEA. 
          DANA ALSO HAD A COUPLE ITEMS THAT I'M HOPING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET UPDATED ON FROM MAYBE FROM TIM HARVEY, THE FIRST BEING THE FRACTIONAL BILLING FOR SOLAR. 
          AND THE SECOND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE CHANGES TO COMMERCIAL, SOLAR INCENTIVES. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR US TO DISCUSS AS A COMMISSION. 
          AND SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AN UPDATE ON WHAT THEY'RE THINKING, WHAT INPUT THEY'VE GOT AND THEN CONVERSATION FROM US. 
          IF FOLKS ARE INTERESTED IN THAT, THANK YOU, KAYVON. 
          I WOULD SUPPORT, BUT THAT UPDATE, UM, I THINK LIKE IT, IT MAY END UP BEING, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, JUST GIVEN THE TIMELINESS OF A FEW OF OUR AGENDA ITEMS, IF YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY. 
          TIMING WISE. 
          UM, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK TO GET THAT ON THE CALENDAR. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE A QUESTION FOR TIM, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT SORT OF TIMELINE THEY'RE WORKING ON. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          AND THEN I GUESS IN TERMS OF THE, UH, FRACTIONAL BILLING, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO LIVE BACK IN THE SUMMER AND I THINK IT HASN'T. 
          SO, UM, I DUNNO, AT LEAST A VERY BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT THE STATUS IS I THINK WOULD BE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT AND AGREED THAT I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD CERTAINLY CHECK IN WITH, WITH TIM, UM, AND, AND SEE WHAT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE FROM THEIR SIDE. 
          UM, BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE A NOTE AND JAMIE, YOU AND I CAN DISCUSS, UM, AS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE NOVEMBER AGENDA, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT MADAM CHAIR, AND, UH, I WILL CHECK WITH THE TIM OF THE SOLAR PROGRAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THE ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING BACK TO OUR ATTENTION WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH. 
          I THINK AT SOME POINT THIS SUMMER, UM, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE, THE VALUE IN, IN KIND OF A, ALMOST LIKE A RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION LOOK BACK, UM, AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, THE HISTORY OF THE WORK THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS DONE AND KIND OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN. 
          UM, AND ALSO HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE SEE OURSELVES HEADED FORWARD, GOING FORWARD, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE ACTIONS THAT WE ARE TAKING AS A COMMISSION AND THE TOPICS THAT WE'RE TAKING UP ARE IN LINE WITH, UM, WHAT WE HAD THE, THE WAY THAT WE INTERPRET OUR PURVIEW AS A COMMISSION. 
          UM, AND I, I, I SUPPORT THAT, THAT EXERCISE. 
          UM, I AM OPEN TO THOUGHTS ON EXACTLY HOW WE DO THAT AND THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN ADDITION TO OUR, OUR REGULAR BUSINESS. 
          UM, BUT I I'D LOVE TO PROPOSE THAT TO YOU GUYS AND SEE WHAT, WHAT YOU ALL THINK IF THERE'S VALUE. 
          UM, AND SMITTY, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, MAYBE SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT IDEA UP SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, OR HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL TWEAKS OR THOUGHTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP, BUT I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, OF TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT EARLY IN 2021. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK YOU CAPTURED IT. 
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ONE OF THE THINGS IS I LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT AND, UM, TRANSFORMING AUSTIN AND THE CITY IT IS, IS BOTH BEING A GREEN CITY, BUT A VERY, UH, ONE THAT IS PIONEERED, UM, THE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAMS AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE PROGRAMS AND MANY OF THE, UH, SOLAR PROGRAMS. UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A GLANCE AT OUR HISTORY, UM, AND THEN TO TAKE A LOOK IN AS WELL AT WHAT SOME OF OUR GREATEST SUCCESSES AND FAILURES AND BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS HAVE BEEN. 
          UM, AND THE 30 ODD YEARS I GET, UM, HOW LONG AGO THIS COMMISSION HAS STARTED, THAT I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS. 
          I THINK THAT THE MOST INTRACTABLE PROGRAM OR PROBLEMS WERE THOSE INVOLVING LOW INCOME AND APARTMENTS. 
          AND I THINK THAT SPENDING SOME SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THAT ISSUE IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE EQUITY DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE HAD. 
          AND IN LIGHT OF THAT MADAM CHAIR, WHEN YOU'RE READY, I HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC TO BRING UP, WHICH IS KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON THE EQUITY WITH DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST WEEK AND A BEGINNING OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW IT IS WE CAN INCREASE PARTICIPATION, UM, AND WHETHER OR NOT COMING UP WITH, UM, LOCATIONS OR OTHER MECHANISMS WOULD HELP US INCREASE PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, BY THOSE WHO WERE SEEKING TO SERVE WHO ARE OF LOW INCOME OR HAVE OTHER INABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY PROGRAMS, UM, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP US KIND OF THINK THROUGH HOW TO, UM, WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS MIGHT BE. 
          THANK YOU, SMITTY. 
          AND I FULLY SUPPORT THIS, THIS COMMISSION HAVING, HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT WE HAD SEVERAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL, UM, IDEAS OR DISCUSSION POINTS CAME UP IN OUR EQUITY TRAINING LAST WEEK THAT I, I PERSONALLY AM ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN EXPLORING, UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          UM, AND, AND SO I'M, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF ADDING, UM, AND AN EQUITY IN RMC FOCUSED EQUITY DISCUSSION TO, TO OUR AGENDA MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND ALSO, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR SO MANY FOR YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING THE LOOK BACK. 
          I ALSO THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND YOU KNOW, MANY OF US HAVE NOT SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION AS, AS LONG AS SOME OF YOU HAVE. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO APPRECIATE THAT, THAT HISTORY AS WELL, I'M NOT SERVED ON THE COMMISSION, DESERVED IT FOR MUCH OF THAT TIME. 
          IT'S ONLY BEEN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AT SOMEBODY, UM, WHEN I RETIRED AND IT WASN'T A CAREER, WELL, MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE ON THE COMMISSION NOW FOR ALL YOUR YEARS OF HARASSING. 
          YES. 
          WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE NOW, SMITTY. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANY OTHER TOPICS THAT, THAT, UH, FOLKS WANT TO BRING UP? UM, AND THIS, OF COURSE, UM, I THINK JAMIE'S DOING A GREAT JOB OF, OF KEEPING THIS RUNNING LIST. 
          UM, AND WE WILL, WE WILL KEEP ADDING TO THE LIST AS, AS TOPICS COME UP. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS I I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AT THIS MEETING. 
          I FEEL LIKE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD TO SKIP IT IF YOU RECENT MEETINGS. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I'M SORRY, ANY OTHER TOPICS TO ADD? OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          I THERE'S ONE, ONE FINAL ACTUALLY TOPIC, UM, THAT I JUST WANTED TO GET THE COMMISSION'S PULSE ON. 
          UM, AND THAT IS REGARDING OUR DECEMBER COMMISSION MEETING, UM, THAT IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 21ST. 
          JAMIE, I THINK I HAVE THAT RIGHT. 
          IF I WAS LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR CORRECTLY, ACTUALLY THAT IS FOR 2021. 
          LET ME DOUBLE CHECK FOR THEM. 
          FORGIVE ME. 
          THE ONE THAT I SENT OUT WAS A FOUR FOR 2021 IS THAT MAY HAVE CONFUSED YOU. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I MISINTERPRETED YOUR NOTE. 
          JAMIE. 
          WE ARE WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 15TH FOR 2020, CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD DEAL. 
          SO IT MAY BE THAT, THAT DECEMBER, 2021, UH, MEETING THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS AND THINK ABOUT WHETHER THAT MAKES SENSE FOR, FOR HOLIDAY SCHEDULES AND SUCH. 
          UM, SO AS YOU'RE PROVIDING FEEDBACK TO JAMIE ON THE, UH, CALENDAR, 
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PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP THAT ONE IN MIND. 
          AND THIS A REPEAT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION POSTING AN AGENDA ITEM, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING TO FINALIZE THE SCHEDULE AND THEN IT GETS PUBLISHED AND ALL THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE, AND THAT, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER. 
          YES, MAYBE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF I MAY JUST HISTORICALLY DECEMBER MEETINGS, UH, TEND TO GET CANCELED BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S BUSY AND IT'S, UH, BECOMES VERY HARD TO FIND, UH, ALTERNATIVE MEETING ROOMS AT, AT CITY HALL AND ELSEWHERE, JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO MOVE MEETINGS AROUND AND CRAMMED THEM INTO THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. 
          AND IT'S VERY HARD TO DO OFTENTIMES, SO TRY TO GET IT DONE IN NOVEMBER. 
          AND THAT FORTUNATELY THIS, UH, NOVEMBER MEETING DOES NOT, UH, GET IN THE WAY OF THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS, HOPEFULLY. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JAMIE, FOR KEEPING AN EYE OUT FOR ALL OF THAT FOR US. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT. 
          UM, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME AND INTENTION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND INVOLVEMENT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO, UM, THE CITY STAFF FOR THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE'VE, UH, RECEIVED. 
          AND, UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO BRING THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE AT 7:48 PM. 
          I'M CHAIR. 
          I MOVE THAT. 
          WE CLOSE IT AT A RECORD EARLY TIME. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I THINK COMMISSIONER BRENNAMAN SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          ENJOY YOUR EVENINGS. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR HANGING IN WITH OUR NEW TECHNIQUE THERE .
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