* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] WELL, HELLO EVERYONE. [City-Community Reimagining Public Safety Task Force] UH, THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC FACING MEETING AND WANT TO THANK THE TASK FORCE FOR, UH, COMING AND JOINING TODAY'S MEETING. UH, MY NAME IS . I AM THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, AND JUST WANTED TO, UH, PROVIDE A QUICK, WELCOME TO ALL AS WE ARE STARTING THIS JOURNEY. I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME INSTRUCTIONS IN THIS NEW FORMAT. UH, WE ARE HAVING SOME FOLKS INTERPRET, UM, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN SPANISH. UH, AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME INSTRUCTIONS THERE AS WELL. HOPEFULLY I'M TRYING TO MODEL THAT BY SPEAKING A LITTLE SLOWER THAN I MIGHT NORMALLY. UM, BUT I AM GOING TO, UH, APART FROM JUST WELCOMING EVERYBODY, KICK IT OFF BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY PACKED AGENDA TODAY AND KICK IT OFF TO OUR TWO INTREPID CO-CHAIR FACILITATORS AT THE MOMENT ARE FACILITATORS. THEY ARE GOING TO WALK US THROUGH, UM, A CONVERSATION ABOUT CO-CHAIRS AND THEN A REALLY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TIMELINE ON HISTORY OF RACE AND POLICING, UH, BOTH NATIONALLY AND HERE IN AUSTIN, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY A SUBGROUP OF THE TASK FORCE. SO WITHOUT MORE, I WILL PASS IT ON TO, UH, KELLY AND MAYA. THANK YOU, MARIA. UM, MY NAME IS KELLY COLEMAN. I WORK IN THE EQUITY OFFICE WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND, UM, I'M THE CO-FACILITATORS OF SEE EVENING I'LL I'LL LET, UM, MY, UH, INTRODUCE HERSELF. HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MAYA, UM, AND I'M VERY HONORED TO BE JOINING Y'ALL AS A CO-FACILITATOR IN THIS PROCESS. UM, ONCE AGAIN, SEEN AS THE AND IN GLOBAL IN , UM, WE ARE GOING TO START OFF SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING, WHERE WE HAVE LIVE INTERPRETATION WITH JUST A COUPLE OF REMINDERS FOR THOSE WHO THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, AND THOSE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING TODAY, PLEASE TRY TO SPEAK, AS NARIA SAID, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE SLOWLY THAN YOU MAY BE USED TO, UM, LET'S TRY TO KEEP THINGS CONCISE. UM, SPANISH TAKES THE SAME AMOUNT OF CONTENT TAKES LONGER TO STAY IN SPANISH THAN IN ENGLISH. SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'LL BE LEAVING SOME PAUSES JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERPRETERS CAN CATCH UP. AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE, UM, DO YOUR BEST TO AVOID, UM, ANY ACRONYMS. UM, WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT POLICING. WE MAY USE THE ACRONYM APD. THAT'S FINE. UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, PLEASE TRY TO, UM, NOT USE ACRONYMS SO THAT THE INTERPRETERS CAN SAY, UM, CAN CORRECTLY AND I WILL KICK IT BACK OVER TO KELLY. SHE'S GOING TO START US OFF WITH OUR GROUP AGREEMENTS. YES. AND REAL QUICK, BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND, UM, INTRODUCE, UM, OUR TWO LIAISONS FOR THIS. AFTER WE GET OUR CO-CHAIRS, WE HAVE TWO STAFF WHO HAVE SO GRACIOUSLY, UM, BEEN ALLOWED, WE'RE BORROWING THEM TO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE CO-CHAIRS AND THAT'S JESSICA CORNADO AND PATRICIA MORNAY, WHO THERE I'VE WORKED WITH BOTH OF THEM. AND THEY'RE BOTH AMAZING. SO WE WANT TO TAKE KNOWLEDGE, UM, TO, UM, ABOUT TWO MEETINGS AGO, WE CAME UP WITH A SET OF GROUP AGREEMENTS AND I JUST WANTED TO REVISIT THEM VERY QUICKLY SO WE CAN TO IT. UM, THE FIRST OF THE AGREEMENTS WAS RESPECT AND WE ASKED WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE FOR FOLKS AND IT BOILED DOWN TO LISTENING, RIGHT? SO WE WANT FOLKS TO REALLY LISTEN IN THIS PROCESS. WE LIKE TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S TIME, TIME. RIGHT. UM, WE ASK THAT PEOPLE MUTE WHEN YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING. UM, WE ALSO ASK FOR TIME TO PROCESS AND TAKE THINGS BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES TO BRING THINGS BACK, WOULD COME BACK WITH DECISIONS. UM, WE ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION, RIGHT, KNOWING THAT WE MAY HAVE A PRIORITIES OR PIECES THAT, UM, MIGHT TAKE LONGER, UM, IN, IN THIS PROCESS, UM, WE ASKED FOR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SOME OF THE EXTERNAL PRESSURES AROUND THIS PROCESS. WE ASKED FOR PATIENTS, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT BRAVE SPACE, RIGHT? THAT, UM, YOU HAVE TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH BEING UNCOMFORTABLE IN THIS SPACE. WE TALKED ABOUT CHECKING OUR PAST DIFFERENCES AT THE DOOR OR AT THE VIRTUAL DOOR. RIGHT. UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING HEALTHY DISAGREEMENTS, LIKE IT'S OKAY TO [00:05:01] DISAGREE, BUT WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL IN THIS SPACE. UM, WE ASKED THAT WE CAN CHALLENGE EACH OTHER IN HEALTHY WAY. PEACE. UM, THERE WAS AN ASK THAT WE NOT TAKE THIS PERSONAL, RIGHT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE DISAGREE WITH, UM, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BRING OUR WHOLE SELVES INTO THIS SPACE AS WELL. UM, WE ASKED FOLKS TO MAKE SPACE, TAKE SPACE. SO IF YOU TALK A LOT, TRY TO STEP BACK A LITTLE, SO OTHERS CAN SPEAK AND, AND EVERYONE CAN HAVE A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE. WE ALSO ASKED TO CENTER THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED IN THIS PROCESS. RIGHT. UM, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE ASKED ABOUT HAVING LANGUAGE, UM, AND, AND JUSTICE ORIENTED CONTENT ARE LINKED LANGUAGE, JUSTICE, UM, CONTENT. AND WE'RE TRYING, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, OUR INTERPRETERS RIGHT NOW, UM, WE ASKED FOLKS TO BE AUTHENTIC IN THEIR PERSPECTIVES. AND, UM, WE ALSO ASKED, UM, OR THERE WAS A STATEMENT AT THE END THAT SAID THAT, UM, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING AND THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT ALL FOR NOT. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL, UM, UH, WE WE'D LIKE FOR FOLKS TO, UM, ALSO BEFORE YOU SPEAK IN THIS SPACE TO SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ORGANIZATION. SO WHEN YOU UNMUTE SAY YOUR NAME ORGANIZATION, AND THEN MAKE YOUR COMMENT, UM, UNLESS WE'RE IN LIKE A FACILITATED DIALOGUE OR CONVERSATION, IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, JUST SO THAT, UM, WE KNOW WHO'S TALKING AND, UM, THE AGENDA TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TRY AND MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE CO-CHAIRS AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY POLICING HISTORY TIMELINE. AND THEN, UM, HOPEFULLY IF THERE'S TIME, WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME, UH, SOME ITEMS FOR, UH, THE NEXT, UM, THE NEXT MEETING'S AGENDA. WE MIGHT HAVE TO DO THAT OVER A, A SURVEY EMAIL, UM, IF WE, IF WE RUN TOO LONG. SO, UM, THAT'S OUR AGENDA. AND, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE THE, THE LIST OF FOLKS WHO ARE, UM, UP WHO FOLKS, UM, NOMINATED TO BE IN THE RUNNING FOR THE CO-CHAIRS REAL QUICK. AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO, UM, TO SAY THAT THEY ACTUALLY, WHETHER THEY HAVE TIME TO DO IT, UM, OR THEY WANT THEIR NAME OFF. AND, UM, GIVE FOLKS A QUICK CHANCE TO ADD A NAME IF IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE LIST. UM, OKAY. SO THE FIRST PERSON IS DAVID JOHNSON. THE SECOND PERSON IS FARRAH MUSCATINE. WE HAVE COINCI DUNLAP, PAULA ROJAS, ALICIA TORRES, CHRIS HARRIS, NOREEN RIVERA, VANDER, MINE, AND BRIAN BOOKS ARE THE CHOICES. AND SO, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK NOW WHETHER WE HAVE, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL NOMINATIONS KELLY, WE HAVE SOME HANDS RAISED. OKAY. AND ELLA HAVE THEIR HANDS RAISED. CAN THEY TYPE THEM IN THE CHAT? THERE IS NO, WE DON'T HAVE NO CHECKS, UM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A NOMINATION AND A THING HE GOES, UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME IS ALITA. I AM PART OF ICE FOR THE AUSTIN. AND MY QUESTION, THERE'S A TWO PART QUESTION. THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE, UH, UH, THE AGENDA. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A LONG PRESENTATION, UM, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, UM, THINGS THAT I BROUGHT, UH, WANTED TO BRING UP SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY NOW THAT THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM. UM, AND, UM, MAYBE YES, IT CAN INFORM, OR THEY CAN BE PUT ON THE NEXT, UM, THE NEXT AGENDA, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SPACE TO BRING THOSE UP. I'M NOT SURE MAYBE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THEM AFTER DENOMINATIONS. UM, SO THAT WAS MY FIRST ONE. AND, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO ANSWER THAT NOW. UM, BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE IT IS I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, THE FACT THAT I [00:10:01] THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, AFTER THINKING THROUGH SITTING WITH, UH, HOW MUCH, OR WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOLKS TO DO AN A, TO B AS COACH ADMINS, AS CO-CHAIRS, I WANTED TO BRING TO THE GROUP, UM, THE PROPOSAL FOR THE CULTURE NOMINATIONS FOR FOLKS, UM, ALSO TO HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE, WE, I KNOW WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR TWO CO-CHAIRS. AND SO MY PROPOSAL, UM, TO THE REST OF THE TASK FORCE ARE GOING TO SAY, OH, GROUP MEMBERS ARE THAT WE ALSO, UM, VOTE IN AN ALTERNATE. UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING WHERE WE DELAY IT. I THINK THAT WE CAN, I AM HOPING THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE OPEN TO CHOOSING BOTH, UH, THE ACTUAL CO-CHAIR AND THE ALTERNATE, UM, FROM THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED. UM, SO I WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, UM, TODAY TO AGREE ON AS TASK FORCE MEMBERS. I'VE, UH, YEAH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT. YEAH. OKAY. SO MAYBE WE CAN, UM, WHENEVER, SO THE PROCESS FOR THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOLKS, YOU KNOW, IF, UM, IF WE HAVE ANY MORE NOMINATIONS AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK FOLKS IF THERE'S PEOPLE WHO, UM, DON'T WANT TO BE ON THIS LIST. AND THEN, UM, AMANDA HASSO IS GOING TO SEND A GOOGLE FORM SURVEY TO FOLKS WHERE PEOPLE CAN CHECK THEIR EMAIL WHILE WE'RE IN THIS MEETING. AND THEY WANT VOTE ON WHO THEY WANT TO BE THE CO-CHAIRS AND WE CAN PICK THE TOP THREE PEOPLE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO YOU HAVE THE TWO CO-CHAIRS AND THEN YOU HAVE THE THIRD, UM, ALTERNATE. IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO, TO ME, UM, I GUESS IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. UM, I'M JUST, UH, AND I AM OKAY WITH THAT. I JUST WASN'T AWARE THAT, THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO LIKE NAME THEM VOTE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT WILL BE RECORDED, UH, PUBLICLY. BUT, UM, IF NOBODY ELSE HAS OBJECTION, OBJECTION TO THAT, THEN IT'S FINE TOO. WELL, I DO HAVE AN OBJECTION TO A PUBLIC VOTE THE SAME WAY. I HAVE AN OBJECTION TO A PUBLIC MEETING. I'M JUST VOICING THAT NOW. OKAY. SO, UM, WE WERE TRYING TO DO THIS, I'M SORRY. HERE'S A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISING THEIR HANDS AND, UM, RAY AND NYDIA HAVE THEIR HAND RAISED. OH, YES. OKAY. LET'S HEAR FROM, UM, FROM RAY AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM MARIA GOOD EVENING, KELLY. AND THIS IS REALLY JUST A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION FROM ALICIA. UM, WE ARE, UM, IDENTIFYING TWO CO-CHAIRS AND I WAS JUST WONDERING KIND OF WHAT, UM, SITUATION IS ALICIA INTERESTED IN THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AN ALTERNATE NOW, BECAUSE GENERALLY I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT WITH, UH, TWO CO-CHAIRS THAT IF ONE WAS ABSENT, THE OTHER COACH HERE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR A MEETING. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE, UM, WHAT ALICIA'S THOUGHTS WERE AROUND THE NEED FOR AN ALTERNATE. OKAY. UM, BEFORE, UM, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD. ALICIA, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND REAL QUICK? YEAH, I CAN JUST LEAVE IT AT A, AT A SIMPLE ALICIA, YOUR VIDEO IS FROZEN. WELL, UH, AN EMAIL EXCHANGES THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN THIS, BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE AND IF ONE, UM, CANNOT, UH, DO IT. UM, I THINK THAT WE ARE ASKING A LOT, I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE CO-CHAIRS, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS NOT A PAID POSITION EITHER. UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE UP FOR, UM, THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING OR HAVE BEEN UP FOR NOMINATIONS OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE FULL TIME JOBS OUTSIDE OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS. AND SO I DO THINK THAT IT IS MORE MANAGEABLE WHEN WORK LIKE THIS IS DONE IN MORE DECENTRALIZED COMMUNITY WAY. SO, UM, MORE THAN ANYTHING IT'S THAT, THAT BEING AWARE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE NOMINATED, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS NOT A FULL-TIME JOB FOR THEM, THAT THEY HAVE A WHOLE OTHER, YOU KNOW, 40 PLUS HOUR JOB. AND SO JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE MAKING AN ASSET, THEY WILL HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT, UM, FROM FEEL THAT THEY ARE ACCURATE AT IT, ADEQUATELY SUPPORTED THAT WAY. IT'S NEVER ONE PERSON IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? [00:15:02] HAVING TWO CO-CHAIRS AND ONE ALTERNATE. OKAY. CUISINE HAS HER HANDS UP. OKAY. KAY. OKAY. HI. YES. KATE GRAZIANI WITH THE TEXAS HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE. AND, UM, TO ALICIA'S POINT, I WANTED TO ASK THE GROUP ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME SORT OF COMPENSATION FOR THE CO-CHAIRS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS A BIG RESPONSIBILITY AND MAYBE ABOVE AND BEYOND A FULL-TIME JOB. I APPRECIATE THAT, KATE. UM, OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION OR NO FACILITATOR? UH, I THINK SOME OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, UH, SHOULD NOT BE HANDLED IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. I THINK, UH, UH, THE ORIGINAL GROUP WHO USUALLY NEEDS, UH, I WOULD PREFER JUST FOR MY TASTE THAT WE NOT HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS PUBLICLY ABOUT COMPENSATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD SAY THAT WE TABLE THOSE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS UNTIL THE SMALLER GROUP THAT WORK GROUP MEETS. AND THEN WE REPORT OUT ON WHAT'S DECIDED THEN, OKAY. MARIA, DID YOU STILL HAVE A COMMENT THAT YOU, YOU WEREN'T THAT SORRY? UM, I JUST WANTED TO, I WANTED A CLARIFICATION AND I THINK RAY GOT THAT CLARIFICATION. I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND IF WHAT ALICIA WAS SAYING IS THAT, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A DESIRE FROM THE GROUP. AND I THINK THE GROUP SHOULD VOTE AS A BODY TO ALLOW AN ALTERNATE UNDERSTANDING THE REASONINGS. ALICIA BRINGS THAT IF THAT IS OKAY, THEN WE WOULD THEN BE MOVING INTO A VOGEL OF TWO CO-CHAIRS AND AN ALTERNATE, BUT WE SHOULD NOT ASSUME THAT WE SHOULD PUT THAT VOTE TO THE GROUP. UM, IN THE PERSPECTIVE, I'M NOT HEARING A LOT OF DISSENT, BUT WE SHOULD, UH, PUT THAT TO THE GROUP. I HEAR THE COMMENT ABOUT COMPENSATION. AND, UH, I THINK BECAUSE, UH, THE CITY HAS, UM, MANY OF THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND OTHER TASKFORCE FOR NUMERATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE GENERALLY DO, BUT I HEAR IT AND I AM HAPPY TO, UH, TAKE THAT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION. BUT, UM, I DO NOT NECESSARILY THINK OTHER THAN A RECOMMENDATION IF THE GROUP WANTS TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT IN FAIRNESS TO ALL OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. WHEN WE SAY THE GROUP ABOUT THE VOTING IS NORIA, ALWAYS SPEAKING OF THE PANELISTS OR THE LARGER OF 133, I APOLOGIZE, QUINCY, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK AND WHO CAN TAKE A VOTE OR TASK FORCE MEMBERS. OTHER FOLKS IN HERE WHO ARE PARTICIPANTS ARE NOT QUEUED TO SPEAK TO THIS MEETING. THIS IS REALLY A MEETING RIGHT NOW FOR TASK FORCE MEMBERS. THERE WILL BE, I ASSUME, IN THE FUTURE, A PLACE WHERE THIS TASK FORCE WANTS TO TAKE IN PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS HAS NOT BEEN SUCH A MEETING. THIS IS REALLY A VOTE RIGHT NOW FOR THE TASK. OKAY. SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR TAKE A VOTE ON, UM, HAVING THE THIRD CO-CHAIR IS WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU? NARIA JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, MADAM CO-CHAIR IS THERE, UM, A POLLING FEATURE THAT WE CAN USE TO TAKE THE VOTE SO THAT IT IS ACCURATE? SO WE TRIED THAT QUINCY, UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT, THE ONLY WAY THAT THAT CAN WORK ON ZOOM IS IF WE PULL THE AUDIENCE, WE CAN'T JUST PULL, UM, THE PANELISTS OR THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS. SO WE, THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ORIGINALLY. UM, AND SO NOW, NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THE EMAIL AND FOLKS CAN FILL IT OUT REAL QUICK. WE CAN, AND THEN WE CAN MOVE. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE, MADAM FACILITATOR. OF COURSE. UM, I WAS ASKING THOUGH, NURIA, DO YOU THINK THAT YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE? AYE. AYE. I, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE GOVERNANCE DOCUMENT. IF WE RECALL THE GOVERNANCE DOCUMENTS SORT OF REFERRED TO ROBERT'S RULES, UNLESS THE WILL OF THE BODY CHANGED THAT AND WANTED TO MODIFY THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO HONOR THAT WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE GROUP, IF THAT IS THE CASE, SINCE WE CAME IN, THINKING OF CO-CHAIRS HAPPY TO, UH, DEFER AS WE VOTE, BUT IF THERE IS A NEED OR A DESIRE TO HAVE A THIRD CULTURE, ALTERNATE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST VOTE ON THAT. AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THREE NAMES AS WE MOVE THAT FORWARD. OKAY. SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION. [00:20:02] I MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE EVERYONE TO VOTE ON ONE ALTERNATIVE WHO CAN SUB IN AS CO-CHAIR AT ANY MEETING, IF A CO-CHAIR CAN'T ATTEND. DO WE HAVE, THIS IS HALEY EASILY. UM, I SECOND THAT MOTION. OKAY. AND WITH THE SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE. AND CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR VIDEOS AND RAISE YOUR HAND SO WE CAN ACTUALLY COUNT, I THINK BE RAISING HANDS DOWN AS I SAW SOME PEOPLE EITHER THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. OKAY. SO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 2021. SO, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S 21. UM, IT'S UNANIMOUS AND IT PASSES. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNANIMOUS BECAUSE I AT LEAST SAW ONE THUMBS DOWN, BUT CERTAINLY THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS WHOSE THUMB WAS DOWN QUINCY, QUINCY. OKAY. AND HEY EVERYONE, THIS IS AMANDA. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, KELLY, UM, I THINK EVERYONE CAN STILL, THEY ONLY HAVE TO CHOOSE TWO BECAUSE THE POLL WILL, UH, WHEN THEY, WHEN THE GOOGLE FORM TALLIES, EVERYTHING, WHAT WE CAN DO IS TAKE THE TOP THREE PEOPLE. RIGHT, RIGHT. THAT WAS THE IDEA SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THE SAME PROCESS. OKAY. UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, DIFFICULT BECAUSE I LIKE MY TECH PEOPLE ON THE SAME PAGE AS I HAVE EVERYONE ELSE OFF TO SKIP AROUND TO COUNT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE JESSICA AND, UM, PATRICIA HERE TOO, TO HELP WITH THAT. SO, YAY. UM, HI, THIS IS THE TECH HOST. AGAIN, IF IT'S HELPFUL, I WILL INDICATE ON EACH MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE TEAM, UM, THE TWO INITIALS T F IN FRONT OF THEIR NAME. AND SO THAT WILL BE INDICATED AS THOUGH THAT THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE. AND I WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU, VAL. OKAY. SO, UM, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO THE LIST OF POTENTIAL? CO-CHAIRS? NO, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE OFF, OFF THE LIST OR THAT DOESN'T WANT TO BE ON THE LIST? OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE CURRENT LIST OUT, UM, RIGHT NOW AND GIVE PEOPLE, UM, A MOMENT TO GO INTO THEIR EMAILS AND VOTE. IS THAT, UH, IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYONE? IF WE GIVE FOLKS ABOUT THREE MINUTES, THREE TO FIVE MINUTES TO GO VOTE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND PLEASE, UM, RAISE YOUR HAND OR INDICATE IF YOU DON'T GET THE EMAIL. UM, I THINK I GOT, I JUST SENT IT OUT RIGHT NOW. SO IT MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES. THIS IS EMILY. I WILL NOTE THAT IT DID GO TO OUR PROMOTIONS FOLDER. SO IF THAT'S NOT SHIT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THAT. OKAY. THANKS, EMILY. AND FOR THE RECORD, UM, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THIS VOTE IS TAKING PLACE VIA EMAIL, IT IS TAKING PLACE DURING THE TASK FORCE MEETING. AND THEREFORE IT HAS BEEN SENT TO A VOTING TUFTS FORCE MEMBERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT AT THIS MEETING TODAY. AND JUST TO REITERATE, IT SAYS IN THE SURVEY TO VOTE FOR TWO, BUT WE ARE VOTING FOR THREE. YES, NO VOTING FOUR. WE'RE GOING TO CHOOSE THREE, BUT WE ONLY GET TWO VOTES. [00:25:01] GOTCHA. AND THEN WE'LL CHOOSE THE TOP FOR YOU. I MIGHT'VE VOTED FOR FREE, BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FINE. EVERYTHING'S FINE. WELL, JEFF COUNTER FIRST TWO ON THE LIST, AMANDA, I ACTUALLY THINK THEY CAN REMOVE YOUR RESPONSE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT. THANKS, AMANDA. UM, I'M SORRY, BUT I ALSO HAVE THAT PROBLEM. YOU OKAY. SO AMANDA HOSPO, CAN YOU, UH, EMILY, UM, REMOVE HERS AND SEND HER ANOTHER ONE, PLEASE? YEAH, YOU CAN USE THIS SAME. IS IT LIKE YOU ARE NOW? UH, THIS IS ALICIA FROM AUSTIN. I ALSO HAD THE SAME ISSUE. LIKE, UM, I JUST DID WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED, WHICH WAS JUST RESUBMIT ANOTHER, UM, ENTRY WITH JUST ONLY TWO PEOPLE AND IT SHOULD WORK. PLEASE. LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO REDO IT OR HAVE A NEW LINK SENT IN TO JUST CHOOSE TWO PEOPLE. YEAH. Y'ALL ARE ACTUALLY GOOD. I CAN SEE WHEN YOU'VE RESPONDED WITH THREE AND I CAN JUST REMOVE THAT RESPONSE. WELL, AMANDA IS TELLING THAT AND FINALIZING THAT. IS THERE ANYBODY THAT ATTEMPTED TO VOTE AND WAS NOT ABLE TO VOTE? OKAY. UM, UH, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING ON, ON THAT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ON THE NOMINATION LIST THAT HAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO SHARE, UM, THAT, THAT WANT TO SPEAK A MOMENT ABOUT WHY THEY SHOULD BE THE CO-CHAIR THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL, UM, DOC CUMIN AGENDA THAT WE VOTED ON. SO I JUST WANT TO CHECK IN REAL QUICK BEFORE WE MOVE ON. OKAY. WELL WE ALREADY VOTED. YEAH, WE DID. IT WAS, IT WAS ON THE ORIGINAL AGENDA. SO I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ASK IN CASE [00:30:01] OLAY TO MAKE YOUR PITCH NOW. SORRY. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO SAY THAT EVERYONE ON THIS TASK FORCE HAS A COMMITMENT TO REALLY THINK THROUGH RE-IMAGINING OR WE WOULDN'T BE HERE. RIGHT. AND SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD. SO I DON'T SEE, WE MUST BE WORKING. I THINK I'M MISSING KATHY MITCHELL. I VOTED, I ACTUALLY THINK I FIGURED IT OUT. IS IT A YAHOO ADDRESS? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. KELLY OR MAYA? I THINK YOU HAVE ACCESS TO IT. DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCED THE, SURE. LET ME CHECK. I HAVE IT. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO OUR TWO CO-CHAIRS FOR THE TASK FORCE ARE FALA ROJAS AND BRIAN OAKS AND THE ALTERNATE IS BARREN MUSKEGON. AND SO CO-CHAIRS WILL TAKE OVER. YEAH, CONGRATULATIONS AND CO-CHAIRS WILL, UM, START WITH THEIR DUTIES, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING. UM, AND WE'LL BE LEADING, UM, WITH THEIR DUTIES, UM, AT THE NEXT TASK FORCE MEETING. OKAY. YAY. WE GOT IT DONE. OKAY. UM, NOW, UM, WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION INTO THE TIMELINE ACTIVITY AND, UM, BRIAN, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO, UM, SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT BEFORE WE GOT STARTED AND I'M SORRY, BRIAN, I'M JUST GONNA JUMP IN VERY QUICKLY. UM, SINCE WE ARE, UM, BILL MOVING WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MEETING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE IN ORDER TO JUST HAVE, UM, A FACILITATED OPEN DIALOGUE REGARDING THIS PRESENTATION. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, THE TASK FORCE IS INTERESTED IN, UM, WE CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. YES. ALL RIGHT. ALL I'LL SAY AYE. AYE. ANY NAYS? OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. SEE, MY IS NICE. SHE ASKED I WAS JUST GONNA DO IT. UM, ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, BRIAN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. UH, FOR THE PUBLIC I'M BRIAN OWES THE CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND I GET THE HONOR OF INTRODUCING OUR TEAM. THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING TONIGHT ON THE HISTORY OF POLICING AND REALLY SORT OF THIS EXPLORATION OF HISTORY FROM BOTH THE NATIONAL LEVEL, BUT ALSO WHAT THAT MEANS, UH, FOR US AS, UM, LOCALLY FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, I THINK LEADING UP TO TODAY, UH, I GOT A LOT OF SORT OF, UH, COMMENTS FROM FOLKS, YOU KNOW, ASKING A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT HISTORY AND WHY ARE YOU ALL SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF TIME AS A TASK FORCE TO REALLY DO THIS EXPLORATION OF HISTORY? AND IT MAKES ME THINK OF A MAYA ANGELOU QUOTE, WHERE SHE SAYS, UM, I'M, UH, UH, I HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR THE PAST. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'VE COME FROM, THEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND THAT'S REALLY HOW TIMELY THIS IS FOR US. AND SO AS WE START TO ON THIS JOURNEY TO REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT IN TIME. AND THIS HISTORY OF POLICING TIMELINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE TONIGHT IS PREPARED BY OUR WORKING GROUP. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU, THE TIMELINE SEEKS TO TELL THE HISTORY OF POLICING THROUGH THE EYES OF THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN MOST NEGATIVELY IMPACTED AND HAVE EXPERIENCED HARM AT THE HANDS OF THIS HISTORY [00:35:01] IS OUR HOPE THAT THIS TIMELINE CAN ALSO GROUND THE TASK FORCE, CITY STAFF, COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN THE CONTEXT OF SYSTEMIC RACISM WITHIN OUR NATION, INCLUDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN ITSELF, UH, TONIGHT WE'LL, UH, REVIEW FOUR SORT OF KEY AREAS, UH, OF HISTORY. AND AS WE GO ON THIS JOURNEY THROUGH HISTORY, WE WILL PAUSE AT TIMES TO REFLECT ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD AND READ, UH, AT THE END OF TONIGHT, I WANT EVERYONE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S THE NEXT VISION FOR US AS WE PUBLIC SAFETY, HOW DO WE TAKE THIS HISTORY TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S NEW? WHAT STORY WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ABOUT HOW WE CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT VALUES WILL GUIDE US ALONG THE WAY? SO WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE FLOOR TO OUR FIRST, UH, WORKING GROUP MEMBER THAT IS GOING TO START US OFF ON THIS JOURNEY. UH, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO EMILY GARRICK TO GET US STARTED ON THE FIRST ERA OF POLICING THAT WE'LL EXPLORE TONIGHT. HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M EMILY, ERIC FROM TEXAS FOR DEFENSE PROJECT. DO WE HAVE THE SCREEN-SHARE FOR THE TIMELINE SET UP? YES, I'M SO SORRY. GIVE ME ONE MOMENT. THIS IS VALERIE AGAIN. UM, WE HAVE ALICIA TORRES WITH HER HAND UP. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS, HAS BEEN UP OR IF IT'S NEWLY RAISED. HE HAS A, UH, COMMENT WHILE WE GET THE TIMELINE UP ALICIA. UM, YES. AND THAT ESSENCE OF TIME, I DEFINITELY WILL TRY TO BE FAST. I THINK THAT THIS IS, UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE THAT DIDN'T ACTIVELY, UM, DO WORK IN THIS, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DID PUT A LOT OF WORK ON THIS, UM, UH, THIS, THIS AT LEAST FOR MY PART OF THE AUSTIN. UM, I THINK THAT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE GROUNDED. UM, THERE IS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY AND WE ARE HERE SHOWING UP AS THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I REALLY AM APPRECIATIVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN DONE IN OTHER, UM, COMMISSIONS OR ANOTHER TASK FORCES. UM, A LOT IN SOME REALLY, THIS IS REALLY EXCITING IN THE SENSE THAT IT DOES HAVE A FEELING THAT IT IS, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. RIGHT. UM, AND SO REALLY GROUNDING OURSELVES IN HISTORICAL CONTEXT AS TO, UM, WHERE WE'RE GOING. I THINK IT'S, IT FEELS, UM, VERY GROUNDING. UM, AND SO THE THINGS THAT I WANTED, UH, THERE WE'LL CALL THEM HOUSEKEEPING THINGS THAT I WANTED TO NAME. UM, I AM NOT EXPECTING A FULL DISCUSSION ON THEM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS NOW A PUBLIC FORUM. UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH SUMIT REALLY, UM, EASY OR ASSUME IS READILY ACCESSIBLE FOR A LOT OF US, UM, IT IS SOMETHING THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH FOLKS THAT ARE STILL, UM, WORK IN AUSTIN AND MIGHT BE LIVING IN THE MORE RURAL AREAS, UM, INTERNET IS NOT ACCESSIBLE THAT WAY FROM HOME. AND SOMETIMES THE PHONES DON'T ALLOW FOR THE DOWNLOAD OF THIS APPLICATION. SO, UH, FACEBOOK IS A WAY THAT I SPECIFICALLY WITH THE COMMUNITY VICE VERSA, THEY AUSTIN, UH, WE ENGAGE WITH. AND SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT BY NEXT 80 NOVEMBER 5TH, WE ARE ABLE TO LIVE STREAM, UM, THROUGH FACEBOOK. UH, I KNOW IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT THE CITY HAS DONE WITH OTHER THINGS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO URGE AGAIN, HIGHLIGHT THAT WE ARE, AS I SORTED AUSTIN, WE ARE HOPING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LIVE STREAM THE NEXT, UH, MEETING VIA FACEBOOK. UM, IT THERE'S THIS OF MAKING THIS ACCESSIBLE TO, UM, THE LARGER COMMUNITY. UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT, UM, THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A, A, UH, REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY SURVEY, UM, THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE USED IN THE DISTRICT, UM, TOWNHOUSE. AND IT IS A CURRENTLY RESIDES UNDER THE, UH, RE-IMAGINING TASKFORCE, UM, WEBSITE, UH, HOWEVER, AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, UH, MYSELF, I DIDN'T SEE, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT SURVEY WAS BEING DEVELOPED, UM, OR WHO IT WAS DEVELOPED BY. UM, AND AFTER READING IT, TAKING THEM MYSELF, AND REALLY SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE IS SOME ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES AROUND THE, THE LANGUAGE. AND SOME OF THE TONE I THINK IS, UH, REALLY LIMITING, UM, IN THE RE-IMAGINING PARTS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND BRING UP, UM, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THAT. UM, I THINK, UH, I WANT MORE INFORMATION AS TO, TO WHO DEVELOPED IT [00:40:01] IN, IN HOW IT IS BEING USED AND THE ACCESSIBILITY OF IT. UM, SO THE TASK FORCE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, TO THE LARGER COMMUNITY THAT, UM, THE NUMBERS THAT THE TASK FORCE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, BEING AVAILABLE CURRENTLY UNDER THE RE-IMAGINING FUND AND THE DECOUPLING FUND, UH, AS TASK FORCE MEMBERS, WE HAVE UPDATED NUMBERS. UM, AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT AT LARGE, WE ARE AWARE THAT, UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY WILL BE WORKING AS A TASK FORCE, UH, WITH, UH, A COMBINED 7.1 MILLION DIFFERENCE, UH, FROM THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT. UM, I KNOW THAT THAT MIGHT SOUND A LITTLE BIT HEAVY ON TECHNICALITIES FOR MAYBE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE JOINING US. UM, I HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THOSE CONVERSATIONS, THE BUDGET ONES, BUT, UM, DEFINITELY, I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE THAT WE DO RECEIVE UPDATES AND AS TASKFORCE, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE, I DO FEEL THERE TO PROVIDE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND NO ALERT FOLKS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH DIFFERENT NUMBERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PRESENTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALICIA. UM, SO REAL QUICK, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, WE WILL HAVE THE FACEBOOK LIVE TEXTS SET UP BY THE NEXT MEETING, UM, OR A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO JOIN. UM, THAT WAY WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND SO THAT WE WOULDN'T LEAVE THINGS HANGING, UM, OR LINGERING. AND THEN, UM, ALSO JUST TO SAY REAL QUICK, THAT EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, UM, UM, WE'LL, UH, HOPEFULLY THE CO-CHAIRS WERE LISTENING AND WE'LL PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THEM TO HELP CRAFT THAT INTO THE, THE NEXT AGENDA. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MY, UH, DO YOU WANT TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN AND TRY TO MAKE IT, UM, BE AS BIG AS YOU CAN SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT AND FOLKS, UH, IF IT'S EASIER, UM, YOU CAN MOVE THAT LITTLE WHITE LINE AND BE BETWEEN THE, UM, WHERE YOU SEE US IN THE ZOOM AND WHERE YOU SEE THE TIMELINE TO MAKE TIMELINE PIECE BIGGER AND EASIER TO READ, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, DON'T NORMALLY USE ZOOM A LOT, IS THAT READABLE FOR YOU? OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE TIMELINE ON THE RE-IMAGINING WEBSITE AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE IN SPANISH AS SOON AS IT'S TRANSLATED AS WELL. THANKS. UM, OKAY. SO I'M LIKE, ARE THE TEXAS CREDIT FUNDS PRIVATE AND THEN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. UM, WE HAVE FOUR SECTIONS OF THIS TIMELINE. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COVER EVERY ITEM ON THE TIMELINE. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE SELECTING KEY DATES FROM THIS, UH, SELECTION OF KEY DATES. UM, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE FIRST ERA, UM, AND ABOUT HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT WORKED AND WHAT LAWS THEY WERE ENFORCING, UH, BEFORE THE FORMATION OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS, BOTH PROCEEDING THE FOUNDING OF THE UNITED STATES. AND, UH, UP UNTIL THE 18 HUNDREDS. AND DURING THIS ERA, THERE WERE FOUR PRIMARY POLICING ENTITIES, UH, FIRST SHERIFFS AND CONSTABLES, UM, THEN CIVILIAN WATCHES, UH, SLAVE PATROLS AND RANGERS. UM, THE SHERIFF IS LARGELY CONSIDERED TO BE THE FIRST LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN ENGLAND IN THE 11 HUNDREDS TO ACT AS TAX COLLECTORS AND TO REPLACE PRIVATE SECURITY GUARDS, TO PROTECT PRIVATE PROPERTY. UM, DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD, UH, THEY WERE CIVILIAN NIGHT WATCHES, WHICH WERE USED IN EUROPE AND THE COLONIES AND THE COLONIZATION OF AMERICA BEGAN, AS WE ALL KNOW, IN 1492. AND DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, THERE WERE BRUTAL MILITARY FOURTHS. SO IT WAS USED TO DISPOSSESS INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THEIR LAND AND FORCED THEM INTO SLAVERY. WORKING IN MINES IN AGRICULTURE, THERE WERE ALSO ENSLAVING RATES BY BRITISH COLONISTS ACROSS WHAT ARE NOW MANY SOUTHERN STATES DURING TIME PERIOD. BUT THE WHITE SETTLERS FELT THAT THEY NEEDED MORE FORCED LABOR THAN THIS COULD PROVIDE. UM, AND THIS BRINGS US TO THE TRANSATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE, WHICH LASTED FROM 1526 TO 1867 AND APPROXIMATELY 12.5 MILLION PEOPLE WERE SHIPPED FROM AFRICA AND OF THOSE 10.7 MILLION WERE FORCED TO BROUGHT TO THE AMERICAS. THIS FORCED MIGRATION WAS EXTREMELY BADLY WITH APPROXIMATELY 2 MILLION PEOPLE DYING DURING THE VOYAGE AND MILLIONS MORE DYING IN WHAT WE'RE KNOWN [00:45:01] AS SHE'S AN ENCAMPMENT UPON ARRIVAL. UM, BUT DEATH RATES AT THE SEASONING CAMPS WERE AS HIGH AS 50%. THERE WERE, THERE WAS ALSO INDENTURED SERVITUDE DURING THIS TIME PERIOD IN 16 HUNDREDS AND BOTH BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE COULD BE INDENTURED SERVANTS, THOUGH. IT WAS NOT EQUAL. UM, AND THE 16 HUNDREDS, IT WAS ACCUSTOMED TO MEET AFRICANS WHO HAD BEEN BAPTIZED IN THE EARLY 16 HUNDREDS. IT WAS A COST DOWN TO MAKE AFRICANS WHO HAD BEEN BAPTIZED BEFORE THE ARRIVAL TO THE COLONIES AND VENTURED SERVICE INSTEAD OF SLAVES. BUT THE INSTITUTIONAL INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF SLAVERY WAS SEEMED TO FOLLOW. UM, THE FIRST COURT RULING UPHOLDING SLAVERY WAS IN 1640 BY A VIRGINIA COURT. AND THE FIRST LAW PASSED REGARDING SLAVERY. WASN'T MASSACHUSETTS COLONY IN 1641. AND CHATTEL SLAVERY WAS REALLY FORMALIZED BY THE VIRGINIA COLONY, WHICH PASSED A LAW IN 1662, STATING THAT ANY CHILD WHOSE MOTHER WAS ENSLAVED WAS ALSO A SLAVE AND THEN PASS A LAW IN 1705 DECLARING THAT SLAVES WERE REAL ESTATE AND LEGALLY PROTECTING FORCED BREEDING RACE WAS A REALLY EXPLICIT FACTOR IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COLONIES, REGARDLESS OF STATUS AS A FREE OR ENSLAVED PERSON IN 1703, BOSTON PASSED A CURFEW LAW FOR ALL BLACK AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, INCLUDING FREE BLACK PEOPLE. AND DURING THE EARLY YEARS OF THE UNITED STATES, AS A NATION STATE, SOUTHERN CITIES FORMED PARAMILITARY GROUPS THAT WERE CAST WITH CONTROL OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE WITH THE GOAL OF PREVENTING AND REPRESSING SLAVE REBELLIONS, AND THESE SLAVE PATROLS OFTEN WORKED WITH WHITE SIBLINGS AND MILITIAS SERVING AS EARLY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN 1790, THEN ACTUALIZATION ACT WAS PASSED, WHICH RESTRICTED CITIZENSHIP. CAN YOU WAIT, EMILY REAL QUICK? I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT. CAN YOU SLOW DOWN JUST A TAD? I'M SORRY, OUR INTERPRETERS. OF COURSE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO I WAS JUST SAYING THAT IN 1790, THE NATURALIZATION ACT WAS PASSED, WHICH RESTRICTED CITIZENSHIP TO WHITE MEN IN THE EARLY 18 HUNDREDS WAS IN SEVERAL SOUTHERN STATES WERE PASSED, REQUIRING ALL BLACK PEOPLE TO CARRY PASSES AND ALLOWING FOR THE ARREST OF ANY BLACK PERSON WITHOUT A PASS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR STATUS. IN 1823, THE TEXAS RANGERS WERE FORMED. UM, AND THEY ARE WIDELY CONSIDERED TO BE THE FIRST STATE POLICE AGENCY THEY WERE CREATED FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF PROTECTING THE WHITE, THE LAND THAT WHITE SETTLERS HAD TAKEN FROM THE MUNCHIES IN 1830 CONGRESS PASSED THE INDIAN REMOVAL ACT, WHICH LEGALIZED THE REMOVAL OF ALL INDIGENOUS PEOPLE EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI POLAND'S WEST OF THE RIVER. IN TOTAL, MORE THAN 46,000 NATIVE AMERICANS WERE FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES IN ORDER TO CREATE SPACE FOR WHITE SETTLEMENT IN 1840 AUSTIN ELECTED ITS FIRST CITY MARSHALL, AND IT PASSED ORDINANCES FOR THAT CITY MARSHALL TO ENFORCE THAT ESTABLISHED A 10:00 PM CURFEW FOR SLAVES AND FORBIDDING ANY WHITE MAN OR ANY MEXICANS WHEN QUOTE MAKING ASSOCIATES OF NEED OF NEGROES IN 1850, CONGRESS CROSSED A FUGITIVE SLAVE LAW. THIS REQUIRED THAT SLAVES BE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS, EVEN IF THEY WERE IN A FREE STATE THAT ALSO MADE IT MADE, UH, THE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, THE FEDERAL MARSHALS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING, RETURNING AND TRYING ANY ESCAPED SLAVES. AND THEY KEPT ALSO ENLIST THE ASSISTANCE OF OTHER WHITE PEOPLE. IT ALSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY BLACK PERSON TO BE CAPTURED AS A SLAVE AND SOLELY ON THE BASIS OF A SWORN STATEMENT, MORE WHITE PERSON, NO, NOT WITH A NEW RIGHT TO CHALLENGE THAT STATEMENT IN COURT TO PROVE THAT THEY WERE IN FACT FREE. UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO PASS IT TO CHRIS FOR THE POLITICAL ERA. THANK YOU, EMILY. SO THIS ERA, UM, WE SEE COMBINATING THE COALESCENCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, FROM GUARDS AND WATCHMENS AND MILITIAS AND SLAVE PATROLS INTO SOMETHING MORE SIMILAR TO THAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH THE ERA ITSELF SEES, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS, WHICH ALMOST TO BE FOCUSING ON THE ESTABLISHMENT AND EXPANSION OF LOCAL POLICE. AND WITH THAT, UM, THE EXPANSION OF LAWS DESIGNED TO CONTROL, UH, MOSTLY THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ENSLAVED, BUT INCREASINGLY THOSE, UH, ALSO THAT ARE OTHER, UH, INCLUDING MEXICANS AND IMMIGRANTS. SO IN 1846, TEXAS STATEHOOD, WE HAVE THE FIRST STATE FUNDED LOCAL POLICING APPARATUS, WHICH ARE SLAVE [00:50:01] PATROLS. UM, THESE ARE AGAIN THE EARLIEST INSTANCE OF SECURITY PERSONNEL USING QUOTE PATROL TACTICS THROUGH THEIR SCOPE. THOSE SCOPE OF AUTHORITY WAS LIMITED TO CAPTURING SLAVES IN 1848. THE CITY OF AUSTIN MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR A SLAVE OWNER TO ALLOW AN IT'S AN ENSLAVED PERSON TO HIRE THEIR OWN TIME OR QUOTE ACT OR DEAL AS A FREE PERSON. IN 1854, YOU HAVE SOMETHING CALLED VIGILANCE COMMITTEES, THE MAYOR, A NEWSPAPER PUBLISHER, STATE SENATOR, AND FORMER TEXAS RANGER, UH, JOHN'S SALMON RIP FORD. UM, HE WAS ALL THOSE THINGS ESTABLISHED A VIGILANCE COMMITTEE TO DRIVE LATINOS OUT OF AUSTIN, FEARING SOLIDARITY WITH ENSLAVED PEOPLE WOULD SPARK REBELLION AGAINST WHITE SUPREMACY. IN 1859. WE SEE AN AUSTIN CITY ORDINANCE WAS PASSED THAT PREVENTED ENSLAVED PEOPLES FROM LIVING SEPARATELY FROM THEIR OWNERS IN 1860 FEAR OF A SLAVE REVOLT SPREAD ACROSS THE CITY OF AUSTIN SAYS THAT THE MAYOR, UH, RESPONDED BY ORDERING THE EXAMINATION OF ALL SLAVE QUARTERS IN 1861, YOU SEE TEXAS SECEDE FROM THE UNION, JOIN THE REBELLION AS PART OF THEIR DECLARATION. THEY SAID, AND I QUOTE, SHE WAS RECEIVED AS A COMMONWEALTH HOLDING, MAINTAINING, AND PROTECTING THE INSTITUTION KNOWN AS NEGRO SLAVERY, THE SERVITUDE OF THE AFRICAN TO THE WHITE RACE WITHIN HER LIMITS, A RELATION THAT HAD EXISTED FROM THE FIRST SETTLEMENT OF HER WILDERNESS BY THE WHITE RACE AND WHICH HER PEOPLE INTENDED SHOULD EXIST IN ALL FUTURE TIME. THERE'S A SESSION WAS ABOUT SLAVERY 100% IN 1865, FOLLOWING THE CIVIL WAR, WE START SEEING THE EMANCIPATION OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE THAT EMANCIPATION WAS FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY THE PASSAGE OF LAWS, CONTROLLING BLACK PEOPLE'S PUBLIC MOVEMENT AND WORK EMANCIPATION. ALSO STIPULATED THAT SLAVE LABOR COULD CONTINUE FOR THOSE CONVICTED OF A CRIME, CREATING AN INCENTIVE FOR WHITES TO, UH, EMPOWER, TO ARREST BLACK PEOPLE IN ORDER TO EXPLOIT THEIR LABEL AND PUT THEM RIGHT BACK INTO AN INSULATED STATUS. CONVICT LEASING. ONE FORM OF THIS WAS NOT ABOLISHED UNTIL 1941 AND OBVIOUSLY PRISON LABOR CONTINUES TO EXIST TO THIS DAY IN JUNE, 1865, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MET REGARD THE FACT THAT A LARGE NUMBER OF NEGROES TURNED LOOSE BY THEIR OWNERS ARE CONGREGATING IN AND ABOUT AUSTIN AS ALSO PERHAPS DESPERATE WHITE MEN, MAKING IT NECESSARY TO ORGANIZE A POLICE FORCE TO DEAL WITH THEM. UM, THAT MEETING TURNED INTO THE CREATION OF WHAT LATER BECAME THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, IN ORDER TO QUOTE DEAL WITH ALL ABLE-BODIED NEGROES WHO HAVE ABANDONED THE SERVICE OF THEIR EMPLOYERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF IDLENESS AND WHO ARE FOUND LOITERING OR RAMBLING ABOUT OR IDLY WANDERING ABOUT THE STREETS OR OTHER PUBLIC THOROUGHFARES WE HAVE ACROSS THE SOUTH. SOMETHING CALLED BLACK CODES, UH, PASSED AFTER EMANCIPATION AND THE END OF SLAVERY. UM, IN PART THEY GRANTED SLAVES AND FREED PEOPLE OF COLOR, THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE CONTRACTS AS WELL AS OTHER RIGHTS, BUT THEY STILL MAINTAINED PROHIBITIONS FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO MARRY WHITES SERVE ON JURIES HOLD OFFICE OR VOTE. WE ALSO HAD WAYS OF GETTING PEOPLE AGAIN, BACK INTO THE LABOR FORCE, UH, INCLUDING THROUGH THE APPRENTICE LAW, WHICH ESTABLISHED IN TEXAS ALLOWED FOR THE UNPAID LABOR OF MINORS FOUND TO BE ORPHANED OR WITH ILL-SUITED PARENTS. UH, SO THOSE CHILDREN COULD BE TAKEN, UH, AND CALLED VIBRANT MINORS AND PLACED UNDER THE APPRENTICESHIP OF WHITE LANDOWNERS THAT A LOT TO COVER HERE. SO I WANT TO, I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE TIME. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UH, THE EXTENSIVE NUMBER OF LYNCHINGS THAT OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH, INCLUDING IN TEXAS, UM, WHICH WAS OFTEN DONE, UH, WITH THE ACTIVE PARTICIPATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES, ESPECIALLY THE TEXAS RANGERS. UM, YOU SEE HERE 4,084 LYNCHINGS AND 12 SOUTHERN STATES, 493 PEOPLE WERE LYNCHED IN TEXAS DURING THIS PERIOD. I MEAN, 71% OF THOSE WERE, AFRICAN-AMERICAN ALSO WANT TO NOTE THE CHINESE EXCLUSION ACT OF 1882 AND HOW LAWS DESIGNED TO CONTROL PEOPLE AND LABOR EXTENDED BEYOND THOSE WITH SLAVE PEOPLE, UH, TO IMMIGRANTS AS WELL. IN THIS CASE, [00:55:01] CHINESE LABORERS WERE BANNED FROM ENTERING THE UNITED STATES, UH, AND IT PREVENTED CURRENT RESIDENTS FROM NATURALIZING IN 1882. THE STATE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION, UH, OCCURRED, AND THE STATE ACTUALLY PROVIDED CONFLICT CON CON CONVICT LABOR, OR CONVICT LEASING, OR QUOTE SLAVERY BY ANOTHER NAME AS HISTORIANS REFERRED TO IT. AND LASTLY, IN 1885, WE SEE IN NEW ORLEANS FOLLOWING THE LEVY WORKERS STRIKE THE MAYOR SUGGESTED TO POLICE TO ARREST ANY BLACK MAN QUOTE AND DID NOT WANT TO WORK. OKAY. UH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OFF, UH, TO HAILEY. HI, UM, MY NAME IS HALEY EASILY. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF. UM, HALEY REAL QUICK. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREATH AND COME BACK TOGETHER FOR A MOMENT AND, UM, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE JUST EXPERIENCED. UM, AND THEN HALEY, AFTER THAT CONVERSATION, YOU'LL COME BACK IN AND DO THE NEXT PIECE AND THEN PAULA, OKAY. HIS PRESENTATION NOW. UM, WELL, UH, MAYA'S GONNA, UM, UNSHARE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FACILITATED CONVERSATION. LET'S SEE. WHERE ARE YOU ASKING IF THE TIMELINE WILL BE SHARED WITH THE PUBLIC? YEAH. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. FREQUENCY. YES, IT SHOULD BE, UM, ON THE RE-IMAGINED, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE, THE WEBSITE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY. SO IT SHOULD BE THERE, UM, PUBLICLY, BUT WE CAN ALSO JUST EMAIL IT TO YOU FOR QUINCY. OH, UM, WE, WE SENT IT OUT TO THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS EARLIER. IT MIGHT BE BURIED IN YOUR INBOX. OKAY. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, EMILY AND CHRIS, UM, AND ALL OF THE WORKING GROUP FOR, UM, COMPILING THIS INFORMATION FOR US. UM, WE JUST WENT THROUGH, UM, MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS OF HISTORY, UM, IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES. RIGHT. AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, ALL THAT CAN COME UP WHEN WE DO THAT. AND JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING WITH US AND FOR LISTENING. UM, AND FOR ABSORBING THAT, UM, LIKE KELLY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE, UM, TO BREATHE, TO KIND OF PROCESS A LITTLE BIT COLLECTIVELY WHAT IT IS THAT WE JUST HEARD AND ALSO HOW, WHAT WE JUST HEARD APPLIES TO AND INFORMS, UM, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND THE WORK THAT THIS TASK FORCE IS DOING, UM, MOVING FORWARD. AND SO I WANT TO HEAR, UM, FIRST OF ALL, JUST, UM, I WANT TO HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF FOLKS AS TO, UM, WHAT CAME UP FOR YOU WHEN, UM, HEARING THIS PRESENTATION WHEN SEEING THESE DATES, UM, ANY THEMES THAT YOU NOTICE, OR, UM, JUST ANYTHING THAT COMES TO MIND FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS WHERE I JUST WANT TO START ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WANTS TO SHARE, UM, REGARDING WHAT WE JUST HEARD. SO, SO MAYA, UM, FOR ME, I REALLY START TO REFLECT ON THIS AND I THOUGHT ABOUT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT, WHO WAS SAFE AND WHO WAS NOT SAFE AND THROUGH ALL THESE TWO AREAS OF HISTORY, I THINK ABOUT THE QUESTION OF WHO AND WHAT WAS BEING PROTECTED AT THE EXPENSE OF, OF WHOM THROUGH ALL OF THAT HISTORY. AND IT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT, AS WE LOOK AT THE WORK WE HAVE TO DO, I STILL SEE SOME OF THE THINGS FROM THE 18 HUNDREDS STILL PLAY OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. UM, BUT I THINK HOW WE REFLECT AND DO THE DEEPER DIVE ON WHO GETS TO BE SAFE AND WHO DOES IT AND, AND HOW, UM, THAT PLAYS OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, BRIAN. I THINK THAT'S, UM, A REALLY IMPORTANT THEME AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START AND SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DIVE INTO. UM, I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE TASK FORCE AS, UM, AN ANSWER TO BRIAN'S QUESTION THAT IN THESE TWO AREAS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED, UM, WHO WAS [01:00:01] NEEDED TO BE SAFE OR UNSAFE, UM, WHAT DID THOSE THINGS RESONATE WITH? Y'ALL AS WELL? YEAH. YEP. I'LL START OUT BY SAYING THANKS TO THOSE WHO WORKED ON THE PRESENTATION. UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION IS, IS, IS A BIT OFF, UH, I SAY 12.5 MILLION. THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN COUNT ON THE BOOKS. UH, AND THAT'S, THAT'S VASTLY UNDERESTIMATED IN THE INTEREST OF WHITE FOLKS, UH, TO NOT TELL THE FULL STORY ABOUT SLAVERY. SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHERS ABOUT LYNCHINGS, SOME OF THOSE MENTIONS THAT HAPPENED WHERE, WHAT WAS CAPTURED, UH, ON THE BOOKS AS WELL. UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER ARCHIVAL DOCUMENTS AND, UH, NATIONAL BLACK ARCHIVES AROUND THE COUNTRY, UH, THAT GIVES A VASTLY, UM, GRIM MORE GRIM PICTURE OF THE NUMBERS OF BLACK BODIES THAT WERE DESTROYED, UM, BY WHITES IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING, THAT'S A GOOD FIRST STEP, BUT, UH, WE, WE MAY WANT TO DIG MORE INTO THOSE NUMBERS IF WE EVER HAVE A CHANCE TO, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS EXERCISE, IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. WE ALL KNOW THE DEAL. SO LET'S KEEP OUR MINDS FOCUSED ON, UH, STOPPING THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK BODIES REAL QUICK, QUINCY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN ITERATIVE, UM, PROCESS. AND SO, UM, WE'LL BE WELCOMING FOLKS, UM, TO CONTRIBUTE TO IN THE FUTURE. UM, WE HAD, UH, WE HAD A WHOLE THING PLANNED OUT FOR Y'ALL, UM, TO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE TIMELINE. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH IT. SO, UH, BUT YOU'RE, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. YEAH. I TAKE MY HEAD OUT TO THEM FOR EVEN TAKING THAT FIRST INITIAL STEP, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE, THEY WALKED IN FEAR FOR DOING THIS PRESENTATION AND THE PEOPLE WHO'VE PUT IT TOGETHER. I'M GIVING YOU PRAISE. THANK YOU. BECAUSE THEY FEAR THIS, THEY FEAR THIS INFORMATION. WOW. THANK YOU, QUINCY. ARE THERE OTHER THEMES THAT RESONATED WITH FOLKS EITHER, UM, AROUND WHAT BRIAN SAID AROUND SAFETY OR SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE? YES. YEAH. I, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT NEW, RIGHT? LIKE, AS WE THINK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF SLAVERY AND THE UNITED STATES AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, I COME FROM THE CARIBBEAN AND THINK OF IT THERE AS WELL. UM, YOU SEE THE THEME TO SEE IT HERE. AND I ACTUALLY REALLY ECHO QUINCY'S NOTIONS OF THIS IS REALLY, I THINK COURAGEOUS OF, AS WE LOOK AT THIS AND REALLY LEAN INTO IT. AND EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT ITERABLY BE ADD TO IT OR TWEAK FROM IT, BUT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO HISTORY, I THINK IS, IS REALLY, UM, COURAGEOUS AND GROUNDS US. BUT TO SEE IT ALSO IS STRIKING BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S NOT, IF YOU'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS SPACE, IT'S NOT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW IT IS SYSTEMIC. IT IS ROOTED IN HISTORY. IT SPEAKS TO, UM, A NOTION OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST AS OTHER, BUT FRANKLY OF PROPERTY AND HOW THAT ROUTES FORWARD. UM, AND SO IT, IT HAD THAT THEME HAS STRUCK ME THUS FAR, UM, AS WE SEE THAT MOVE THROUGH, UM, THROUGH TIME. YEAH. I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT AROUND, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY ON THIS CALL IS, UM, SURPRISED OR THAT THIS IS A NEW INFORMATION, RIGHT. AND SO THEN THE QUESTION IS THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO GROUND OURSELVES IN THIS HISTORY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT NEW INFORMATION. RIGHT. AND I HAVE MY IDEAS AROUND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. UM, BUT I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL AROUND WHAT Y'ALL THINK. SO HER QUESTIONS WERE, UM, TO, TO CONTEXT, RIGHT. TO CONTEXTUALIZE WHO WAS MADE TO BE SAFE AND WHO WAS MADE TO BE UNSAFE DURING THESE ERAS. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT WAS BRIAN'S QUESTIONS. AND THEN WHAT VALUE WAS PLACED ON WHO AND WHAT NEEDED TO BE PROTECTED. RIGHT. AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION AROUND WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO REVISIT THIS HISTORY AND ROOT OURSELVES IN THIS INFORMATION? AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO GO AROUND AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN GET EVERYONE. UM, I'M JUST GOING TO GO A WEEK. MAYBE WE CAN JUST GO BY WHAT'S THE ASK. IF FOLKS HAVE [01:05:01] SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT A COMMENT, A QUESTION, UM, THAT THEY HAVE ON THE TIMELINE, THE FIRST PERSON I SEE IS PAULA, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THESE TWO SECTIONS? SURE. UM, I GUESS MY, MY FEW THOUGHTS ARE, YES. I AGREE WITH YOU QUINCY. I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON IT. UH, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. WE WERE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE. THERE'S SO MUCH THERE THAT, UH, ONE WEEK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE SPACE FOR, BUT ALSO HISTORY IS DOCUMENTED BY THOSE WHO ARE IN POWER, WHO WIN. RIGHT. SO GETTING, UM, THE FULL NUMBERS, THE FULL STORY IS MORE WORK THAT'S WORTHWHILE, UM, TO CONTINUE TO DO. AND THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS JUST, IF WE IMAGINE HOW THIS WENT ON FOR SO LONG, HOW IT'S KIND OF EMBEDDED INTO ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE SYSTEMS AND THE FORMAL STRUCTURES, BUT ALSO INTO OUR COLLECTIVE KIND OF CONSCIOUSNESS OF WHO WE ARE IN RELATION TO ALL OF THIS. UM, UH, NOT, NOT MAYBE LIKE WE'RE NOT AWARE OF THAT, OF IT. MAYBE IT'S SUBCONSCIOUSLY WE'VE ALL INTEGRATED THIS AS, AS NORMAL AND ACCEPTABLE, UM, SOMEWHERE WITHIN US. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AS A MOTHER, I IT'S JUST DISTURBING FOR ME EVERY TIME THAT, THAT I, THAT I DO THIS PROCESS OF REFLECTION. THANK YOU, PAULA. THE NEXT PERSON. NO WORRIES, KELLY. WE'RE ALL AT HOME. THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE ON MY SCREEN IS KATHY. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE. SURE. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST PARTICULARLY KEEPS COMING BACK FOR ME IS THE EXPLANATION, THE POWER. THIS HAS TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING THAT, UM, I THINK I'M IN THE DARK THAT, UM, DOES, HASN'T ALWAYS MADE SENSE TO ME, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHY WE ARE, HOW PATROL BECAME THE CORE MODEL OF POLICING. UH, THE IDEA THAT DRIVING AROUND IN CARS, I GUESS KIND OF HOPING THAT YOU'LL SEE CRIMES BEING DONE HAS NEVER MADE ANY SENSE TO ME FROM A, FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT, IF YOUR GOAL IS TO SOLVE CRIMES AND REDUCE CRIME DRIVING AROUND IN CARS IS ONE OF THOSE KIND OF NOT OBVIOUS CHOICES. AND I THINK THAT WHAT THIS HISTORY DOES FOR ME IS SAY PATROL WAS THE THING. WHEN, WHAT YOU WERE TRYING, THE PROBLEM YOU WERE TRYING TO SOLVE BLACK PEOPLE WALKING AROUND BEFORE OR AFTER CURFEW OR WHATEVER OTHER BLACK CONTROL ORDINANCES YOU WERE WITH. UM, MAYBE THAT PROBLEM COULD IN FACT BE SOLVED BY PATROL IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CAME UP WITH THAT IDEA, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF US TODAY, WE'RE LIVING WITH AN IDEA THAT'S ROOTED IN A HISTORY THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IN ORDER TO GET PAST AND MAYBE DETERMINE A DIFFERENT ROLE FOR HOW LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD WORK. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT. KATHY, IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO JUMP IN, PLEASE FEEL FREE. IF NOT, I'M GOING TO KEEP CALLING ON A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE. AND THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE ON MY SCREEN IS MONICA. UH, GOOD EVENING. I'M MONICA GUZMAN WITH GO AUSTIN, VAMOS AUSTIN. UM, AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IT, I'VE SEEN THE TIMELINES BEFORE AND OTHER EVENTS I'VE DONE WORKSHOPS. UM, BUT THE ONE THAT REALLY RINGS LOUD IS, IS THAT QUOTE FROM JUNE, 1865, WHICH LED TO THE CREATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT QUOTE WAS A COUNCIL MEETING A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. AND IT JUST LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO KNOW WHO SAID THAT. I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THEY GOT IT. SO I'M GLAD IT'S IN THE TIMELINE. UM, IT'S, IT'S A VERY SAD HISTORY. I MEAN, AUSTIN IS MY HOMETOWN, UM, BORN AND RAISED HERE, BUT I ALSO WANT TO, IT'S NOT SAFE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. I HAVE FRIENDS, FAMILY [01:10:01] MEMBERS, UM, WHO I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW JUST HOW MUCH THEY, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE IN FEAR. I HAVE SOME THAT MAY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON, UM, THAT THEY, THEY IDOLIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GENERAL OR ABD IN PARTICULAR. I KNOW SOME POLICE OFFICERS, THE HIGHER RANKED ONES FROM WORK I'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE FAMILY THAT'S IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, NOT HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT, BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE. AND I, ME PERSONALLY, I'M VERY FORTUNATE. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY BAD DEALINGS, UM, NOTHING, NOTHING TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, BUT IT'S STILL VERY FRUSTRATING. UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, I JUST LOST TRACK OF WHAT IT WAS, UM, BECOMES BACK TO ME. I'LL CHIME IN AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT MONEY GUN. UM, AND, AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL KNOW, BUT IT BEARS REPEATING THAT IT'S ALSO NOT ABSTRACT. RIGHT. AND THEN IN THE WAYS THAT THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS BROUGHT OUT, UM, THE WAYS THAT IT'S STILL IMPACTING, UM, US IN OUR COMMUNITIES HERE IN AUSTIN AND AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD TODAY. UM, AND THAT THAT'S ALSO PERSONAL TO US. RIGHT. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT INTO THE SPACE, MONICA. UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO A FEW MORE, UM, THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE, UM, IS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, RAY ARIANO. THANK YOU, MAYA. AND AGAIN, IT'S, UM, RAY ON WITH THE CITY. I DIDN'T ANNOUNCE MYSELF THE LAST TIME I MADE MY HAND. SO, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK FOR ME THE, THIS INFORMATION, IS IT REALLY ADDING MORE CONTEXT? UH, FOR MY, FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY, I CERTAINLY HAVE HEARD OF THE CONTEXT. I THINK WE'LL SEE IT HERE LATER ON IN A TIMELINE ABOUT WHEN, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAD THE CHARTER REPLACED THAT THAT IDENTIFY WHERE PEOPLE OF COLOR WOULD LIVE IN COULD ONLY BE AND SO FORTH. SO THIS ADDITIONAL CONTEXT CERTAINLY WAS SOMETHING THAT I WASN'T AWARE OF, UH, AND HELPS TO ADD, AGAIN, THE CONTEXT AS KATHY MITCHELL WAS SAY, YOU KNOW, HELPS, HELPS PROVIDE THE EMPHASIS OF, YOU KNOW, HOW MIGHT WE DO THINGS BETTER? HOW MIGHT WE BE DOING THINGS MORE DIFFERENTLY? THAT CAN BE A BENEFIT TO THOSE THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED, UM, A DIFFERENT OUTCOME, UH, FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. AND SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE TEAM HAS DONE ON THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, MOVING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I THINK FARRAH, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH. UM, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY FARRAH IN I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. I WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF THAT WORKED ON THIS. I, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME READING IT TODAY AND, UM, MY COMMENTS ARE REALLY MORE FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT AS A BLACK WOMAN, UM, AND REALLY SEEING KIND OF WHAT MY ANCESTORS HAVE GONE THROUGH AND SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TREATED LESS THAN, AND ESSENTIALLY HATED AND TREATED LIKE ANIMALS SOLELY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THEIR COLOR OF SKIN. UM, AND TO KIND OF DO STILL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANTI-RACISM AND DIVERSITY AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN THE 21ST CENTURY IS, IS, IS A DIFFICULT PILL TO SWALLOW. UM, AND SO I, I PERSONALLY WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS MUCH AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS OUT THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW THIS HISTORY, WHICH IS WHAT SHOULD BE SHOCKING. UM, BUT THIS HISTORY IS ALSO VERY TRIGGERING AND DIFFICULT FOR PROBABLY MANY BLACK PEOPLE TO HEAR AND LISTEN TO. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO EDUCATE, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE GROUNDED, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M A BLACK WOMAN FIRST, AND I NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME PERSONALLY, TO LISTEN TO, AND TO HEAR, BUT ON THE SAME SIDE OF IT IS THAT IT FUELS MY PASSION TO DO THIS WORK AND FOR US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND MAKE IT SO THAT THE GENERATIONS BEHIND ME WON'T BE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING ESSENTIALLY FOR 300 YEARS. THANK YOU. [01:15:01] YEAH. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO ALSO CALL OUT, UM, THAT THE SECOND PORTION OF OUR, UM, CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS REALLY TIED INTO THAT. UM, BECAUSE, UM, THE, THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR IN THE TIMELINE, UM, HAPPENED AND EXISTED BECAUSE OF VALUES, RIGHT? THAT CERTAIN VALUES THAT WERE HELD. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR US NOW MOVING FORWARD, UM, TO REALLY ANALYZE, UM, WHAT OUR VALUES ARE, WHAT WE WANT OUR INSTITUTIONAL VALUES TO BE AND HOW WE CAN GET THERE. AND, UM, I WAS JUST REALLY THANK YOU FARAH FOR, UM, THAT VULNERABILITY AND FOR SHARING THAT AS WELL. UM, UH, THE NEXT PERSON THAT I HAVE ON MY SCREEN. OH, DAVID, YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD. IF THAT WAS A HAND. YES, IT WAS AN, UH, DAVID JOHNSON, HE, HIM, HIS GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS FOR, FOR PUTTING IN THE WORK ON THIS. UM, AND FAIR, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY NOT AS A BLACK WOMAN, BUT AS A BLACK MAN, I'M FEELING ISN'T A VERY DIRECT WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, AND I'LL EVEN SAY AS A FORMERLY INCARCERATED BLACK MAN WHO HAS BEEN FORCED TO WORK IN THE FIELD FOR TDCJ IN A WAY, VERY SIMILAR TO THAT IN WHICH MY ANCESTORS WERE FORCED TO WORK. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, CHRIS, WHEN YOU WERE, I THINK CHRIS WAS SPEAKING ABOUT IT, BUT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S WHY THERE'S STILL PRISON LABOR, BECAUSE THAT MACHINE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION WITHOUT SLAVE LABOR AND NAMING THAT. AND JUST THE HISTORICAL REFERENCE TO RECOGNIZE THAT LIKE RIGHT BETWEEN THE FOUNDING OF APD AND THE PEAK OF THE KU KLUX KLAN WAS IN TEXAS PEOPLE, BLACK FOLKS IN AUSTIN, WHERE IT WOULD PULL TAX SO THAT THEIR VOTING RIGHTS WERE SUPPRESSED IN A WAY THAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY, BECAUSE SUPPRESSION JUST TAKES DIFFERENT FORMS. BUT, UM, WHAT I'M MOST ENCOURAGED AND EMPOWERED BY IN THIS MOMENT IS THE FACT THAT I CAN'T REMEMBER EVER SEEING A CITY IN TEXAS, A MAJOR CITY IN TEXAS HOSTS AND BROADCAST A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS AS PART OF ITS OPERATIONS. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE AUSTIN A PAT ON THE BACK BECAUSE IT HASN'T EARNED IT YET. BUT I DO WANT TO SAY LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ENCOURAGING TO ME BECAUSE THE ENTIRE TIME THIS, THIS MEETING HAS BEEN GOING, I'VE BEEN SENDING LINKS TO IT, TO EVERYONE. I KNOW THAT I'VE ALREADY SENT LINKS TO ANYWAY, JUST REMINDING THEM LIKE, YES, RIGHT NOW, INDIRECT RESPONSE TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY CRIED OUT FOR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WAY THAT SLAVERY AND THE WHITE SUPREMACY, THAT, THAT, THAT IS THE DNA OF SLAVERY, HOW IT HAS PERPETUATED INTO OUR, OUR CURRENT LIFE AND OUR MODERN DAY AND OUR MODERN DAY IDEAL OF WHAT LIFE SHOULD BE. THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING. AND I THINK IT TOUCHES TO WHAT QUINCY SAID EARLIER. LIKE, NOBODY'S REALLY, NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS. NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. NOBODY WANTS TO LEAN INTO THE DISCOMFORT HERE. UM, BUT, BUT THAT SAID, ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT I THINK THAT THIS ALSO BRINGS TO LIKE THE PUBLIC, SOME SUBSTANCE WITH REGARD TO WHY PEOPLE SAY DEFUND, APD, WHY PEOPLE SAY THAT SLAVERY NEVER WAS NEVER ABOLISH. IT JUST EVOLVED. LIKE THIS IS BRINGING SOME, SOME SUBSTANCE TO, TO THE MATTER BECAUSE PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS AND SAY, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE, AND WHY SHOULDN'T WE, OR WHY SHOULD WE, AND THIS IS FORCING THIS CONVERSATION IN A VERY PUBLIC FORUM SO THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN LIKE START FEEDING THEMSELVES TO MOVE FORWARD IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHY TRANSFORMATIVE INSTEAD OF PUNITIVE, WHY ABOLITION, POT, WHY ABOLITION IS AN OPTION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THIS MOMENT MAKES ME PROUD OF THAT REGARD REAL QUICK BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT PERSON. THANK YOU, DAVID. UM, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, BASED ON WHAT FERRIS SHARED, AND NORMALLY WE DO THIS, WE USUALLY SHARE A TRIGGER WARNING TO WARN PEOPLE BEFORE WE WATCH, WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND WE SHARE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE IMAGES, AND [01:20:01] THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING THINGS THAT COULD RE-TRAUMATIZE OR TRIGGER, UM, TRIGGER YOU. SO, UH, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF IF YOU NEED TO. UM, AT THIS TIME WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT OR THE COMMUNITY FOLKS THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER REALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ROOT OURSELVES TO UNDERSTAND THE BASE, THE FOUNDATION, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT IN ORDER TO GET THIS RIGHT. SO, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH WHILE SIMILAR TO WHAT, WHAT FERRIS SAID. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE REAL QUICK. THANK YOU, KELLY. UM, AND THANK YOU, DAVID OLSON. I THINK THAT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT DAVID SAID IS, UM, I REALLY WANT US TO RETURN TO, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS NEXT PORTION, THAT WILL TAKE US CLOSER TO THE PRESENT. SO THAT'S REALLY KIND OF HOLD ON TO THOSE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UM, AND, UM, AND TRY TO RETURN TO THEM. UM, I HAVE TIME FOR ONE MORE PERSON AND BEFORE WE GO ONTO THAT NEXT SECTION, SO LET'S SEE THE NEXT PERSON I HAVE IS CARRIE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THEN WITH THAT, WE WILL GO ON, UM, AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO HALEY. OKAY. UM, SO THIS IS HALEY EASILY, AND I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE REFORM ERA, WHICH IS FROM THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS TO THE 1970S, UM, WHERE WE'RE, WE SEE AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE REMAKE THE POLICE AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE PROFESSIONALS. SO, UM, THIS PROGRESSIVE ERA, THESE, THESE REFORMS LOVE TO SO-CALLED, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE KINDER GENTLER SYSTEM AND REFORMS OF LOCAL CORRUPTION IN CITY GOVERNMENTS. UM, POLICE DEPARTMENTS, SORRY, LET ME SLOW DOWN. POLICE DEPARTMENTS BECAME MORE DISCIPLINED AND HIERARCHICAL AS A RESULT. PROGRESSIVE REFORMS ALSO LED TO AN INNOVATIONS LIKE PROBATION AND PAROLE SYSTEMS LEGALIZING BUREAUCRATIC STATE INTRUSION INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND URBAN PROFESSIONAL SOCIAL SERVICES AND PUBLIC HOUSING WERE ALSO INVENTED. UM, AND THEY OFTEN WORKED IN TANDEM WITH THESE NEW REFORM GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS. UM, AND TH THESE, THESE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE CHILD WELFARE AND JUVENILE COURTS. UM, SO IN 1906 IN APRIL, 1906, AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL PASSED AN ORDINANCE REQUIRING SEGREGATED SEATING ON ALL STREET CARS OPERATED BY AUSTIN'S ELECTRIC WORLD RAILWAY. THIS SPURRED A BOYCOTT FROM AUSTIN'S BLACK COMMUNITY AND THE ORGANIZING OF HEADLINES. SO MULE DRAWN AND AUTO ALTERNATIVES, UM, TO STREET CARCERAL, BLACK WRITERS, THE BOYCOTT COLLAPSED BY THE TIME THE ORDINANCE OFFICIALLY WENT EFFECT ON JUNE 11TH. UM, AUSTIN POLICE OFFICERS WERE TOLD TO ARREST AND FIND ANY BLACK PEOPLE WHO WERE, UM, MAKING ATTEMPTS TO DISSUADE THEIR PEERS FROM WRITING AND SEGREGATED CARS. UM, IN 1908, AUSTIN POLICE CHIEF W J MORRIS ISSUED AN ORDER THAT ALL BLACK PEOPLE FOUND IDLE WITHOUT WORK SHOULD BE ARRESTED AND FINED WITH VAGRANCY AND RESPONSE TO THE LARGE DEMAND FOR COTTON PICKERS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME DECIDED THAT BLACK AUSTINITES HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PLEASANT WORK IN THE COTTON FIELDS OR FIND CITY EMPLOYMENT OVER SUBSEQUENT YEARS, BLACK GATHERING SITES WERE RATED REGULARLY BY POLICE LOOKING TO ARREST BLACK QUOTE UNQUOTE LOAF. SO IN AUGUST, UH, AUGUST 22, 1919 JOHN, UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO SAY THIS NAME, BUT SECRETARY OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE FOR NEW YORK. SO THAT'S THE NAACP, UM, WAS SEVERELY BEATEN NEAR THE DRISCOLL HORTON HOTEL AND FORCED TO LEAVE AUSTIN BY COUNTY JUDGE DAVE PICKLE, CONSTABLE CHARLES HAMBY, AND BEN PIERCE. THE ATTACK FOLLOWED A MORNING MEETING WITH SHELBY AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AUSTIN CHAPTER OF THE N UH, NAACP. SO THAT'S THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, AS SHELBY WAS RETURNING TO HIS HOTEL HAMBY, UM, WHO LET'S SEE HEAVY, STOPPED HIM TO ENSURE HE WAS NOT STIRRING UP, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, STIRRING UP MORE IN TROUBLE THAN AUSTIN CITIZENS WILL BE ABLE TO GET RID OF IN 10 YEARS WHEN CHILLA HE RESPONDED, YOU DON'T SEE MY POINT OF VIEW, HAPPY RESPONDED BY STRIKING HIM IN THE EYE AND SAYING, I'LL FIX IT. SO YOU CAN'T SEE, UM, SHEILA D WAS CONTINUOUSLY BEATEN BY HANDY PICKLE AND PIERCE, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT TO THE TRAIN DEPOT AND [01:25:01] FORCED TO LEAVE THE CITY. SO WHEN THE NAACP ASKED TEXAS GOVERNOR WP HOBBY, WHAT EFFORTS WERE MADE TO PUNISH THESE THREE MEN HOBIE RESPONDED, YOUR ORGANIZATION CAN CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THE ADVANCE MAN OF BOTH RACES BY KEEPING YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND THEIR PROPAGANDA OUT OF THIS STATE. AUSTIN POLICE ORDERED THE DISBANDING OF THE LOCAL BRANCH OF THE NAACP ON THE GROUNDS THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAD NO PERMIT TO DO BUSINESS IN TEXAS. UM, IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD IN THE 1920S, THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CALLED LOGS DOCUMENT WHITE OFFICERS CONSISTENTLY USING THE N WORD TO DESCRIBE BLACK COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO IN 1924, THE TOWN MARSHALL SYSTEM IN AUSTIN ENDED, UM, AND WAS OFFICIALLY REPLACED BY THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO MOREOVER THE POSITION OF THE HEAD OF POLICE ALSO CHANGED FROM AN ELECTED OFFICE TO ONE APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AFTER SPENDING. OH, AND THEN THIS IS AFTER SPENDING A YEAR IN THE BASEMENT OF THE COUNTY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVED FROM CITY HALL AND TWO NEW QUARTERS AT THE RECENTLY BUILT MUNICIPAL BUILDING IN THAT SAME YEAR. THERE'S A CLUE COX KLAN REVIVAL AND AUSTIN. SO MEMBERSHIP IN AUSTIN PEAKED THAT YEAR WITH ABOUT 3000 TO 5,000 MEMBERS. SO THIS MEANS ONE IN 10 OF THE NATIVE BORN WHITE POPULATION OF TRAVIS COUNTY, THE AUSTIN CHAPTER OF THE WOMEN OF THE KKK WAS FORMED, UM, DECEMBER OF 1923. SO BETWEEN SEPTEMBER, 1921 AND MARCH, 1924, THE CITY HOSTED TO KLAN PARADES TO LARGE PUBLIC GATHERINGS FOR MASS INITIATION RALLIES, A WEEK-LONG CIRCUS AND PUBLIC SCREENINGS, TRAVIS COUNTY, SHERIFF WD MILLER ADMITTED TO BELONGING TO THE ORGANIZATION AS DID AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY. JOHN D. COPELAND AND CHIEF OF DETECTIVES ELL YOUNG AMONG OTHER APD OFFICERS. SO FOUR YEARS LATER, 1928, A MASTER PLAN LEGALLY DESIGNATED EAST AUSTIN AS A NEGRO DISTRICT. UM, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, AS DOES YOUR SEGREGATION WAS ILLEGAL IN TEXAS PLANNER USED, UH, UM, ZONING AS SEPARATE QUOTE UNQUOTE SEPARATE BUT EQUAL LEGISLATION. THEY ALSO SIMPLY JUST REMOVED AFRICAN-AMERICAN SERVICES, SUCH AS SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND LIBRARIES FROM NEIGHBORHOODS DESIGNATED AS WHITE, AS WELL AS SERVICES FOR MEXICANS AMERICANS. SO, UM, IN 1933, FEDERAL LENDING POLICY FORMALIZED RED LINING. SO ALL OF AUSTIN'S PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES WERE CLASSIFIED AS HIGH RISK ZONES WHERE MORTGAGE LOANS WERE DENIED, EXCLUDING THE MO THE PEOPLE IN THESE COMMUNITIES FROM THE ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS TO BUILD HOUSEHOLD WEALTH IN THE U S HISTORY, UM, 1942 TO 1946, WE SEE THE JAPANESE INTERNMENT. SO WE SEE BETWEEN 110 AND 120,000 PEOPLE OF JAPANESE DESCENT, 62%, WHO WERE CITIZENS OF AMERICA, FORCED, UM, OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND IMPRISONED AND INLINE INLAND TO GOVERNMENT CAMPS. UM, THIS INTERMENT RELIED ON COLLABORATION BETWEEN DIFFERENT AUTHORITIES, INCLUDING THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE MILITARY CENSUS BUREAU AND THE LOCAL LOCAL POLICE. UM, 1946, WE S THE AUSTIN POLICE ACADEMY BEGINS THE FIRST BLACK OFFICER TO ENTER THE ACADEMY WAS JOHN DUDLEY. ANNISON ON, UM, IN FEBRUARY OF 1947. HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO ARREST WHITE PEOPLE AND COULD NOT CARRY A GUN. 1950, WE SEE SCHOOLS BEGIN CREATING THEIR OWN SECURITY FORCES TO CRACK DOWN ON PROPERTY DESTRUCTION AND VANDALISM. AND IN THE 1950S, WE SEE THE EMERGENCY OR EMERGENCE OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. SO, UH, FOLKS USE CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE STRATEGICALLY IN NATIONAL CAMPAIGNS, UM, WHICH INCLUDES NINE NON-VIOLENT PROTESTORS. MOST OF THEM BLACK, AND THEY WERE ROUTINELY MET WITH VIOLENCE. UM, IN THE 1960S AND SEVENTIES, POLICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE ABLE TO START FORMING UNIONS. SO STATE CONCESSIONS TO, UM, POLICE CREATE FURTHER UNITY UP AND DOWN THE POLICE HIERARCHY AND 1961 SOUTHERN FREEDOM FREEDOM WRITERS WERE MET WITH POLICE VIOLENCE, NOTABLY IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA, WHERE WRITERS WERE ARRESTED AND REMOVED WHEN THEY RETURNED ON MOTHER'S DAY OF THAT YEAR, THEY WERE BEATEN BY KLANSMEN WHILE POLICE LOOKED AWAY IN 65, 1965. UM, THE MARCHES FROM SELMA TO MONTGOMERY WERE ORGANIZED BY NON-VIOLENT ACTIVISTS TO DEMONSTRATE THE DESIRE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN CITIZENS TO EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, TO VOTE IN DEFIANCE OF THE SEGREGATION OF SEPARATE OPPRESSION. UM, THEY WERE PART OR PART OF A BROADER VOTING RIGHTS MOVEMENT UNDERWAY IN SELMA AND THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAN SOUTH AT THE FIRST MARCH STATE TROOPERS AND COUNTY POSSE MEN ATTACKED UNARMED MARCHERS WITH BILLY CLUBS AND TEAR GAS [01:30:01] AND THE EVENT, UM, EVENTUALLY BECAME KNOWN AS BLOODY SUNDAY. SO IN 1968, UM, POLICE REPRESSION OF THE, UM, THERE WAS POLICE REPRESSION OF PROTESTS AND THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION IN CHICAGO. AND EVEN THOUGH FOLKS WERE PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND KILLED. UM, THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT WATERSHED IMPORTANT WATERSHED IN THAT POLICE MOB VIOLENCE WAS CAPTURED ON CAMERA AND DISTRIBUTED INTERNATIONALLY, AND EVEN SHOULD, THE CHICAGO POLICE WERE FORCED TO ADMIT THINGS, GOT QUOTE UNQUOTE, OUT OF CONTROL. UM, AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE SEE THE MURDER OF FRED HAMPTON, UM, IN WHICH THE, WHERE THE FBI WORKED WITH THE CHICAGO POLICE TO COMMIT THE PREMEDITATED MURDER, THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY LEADER, FRED HAMPTON IN HIS HOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WHEN HE WAS 21 YEARS OLD. SO, UM, NOW I'M GOING TO PASS IT ON TO, UM, PAULA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I AM GOING TO COVER THE LAST, THE FOURTH ERA, WHICH IS THE 1970S TO THE PRESENT. MY NAME IS HER PRONOUNS. I AM REPRESENTING. COULD YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC? IS THAT BETTER? YES. THANK YOU. I AM REPRESENTING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR UNITED FOR RACIAL JUSTICE CCU. UH, MY SECTION ON THE TIMELINE, IF YOU SEE IS VERY LONG, AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING, SO I'M GOING TO READ VERY SELECTIVELY. UM, BUT I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US HERE. UH, AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING US TO TAKE THE TIME LATER TO READ THE FULL TIMELINE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO IT WITH EVERYONE. THE CITY IS GOING TO SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO READ WITH YOUR FAMILY, READ WITH YOUR CHILDREN, READ WITH YOUR FRIENDS, AND REALLY THINK ABOUT, SO I'M GOING TO JUMP IN, UH, WELL, LET'S GO TO 1971 HERE IN AUSTIN, AUSTIN CITY LEADERS ADOPTED THE GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, RESERVING ONE SPOT ON THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A BLACK PERSON AND ONE SPOT FOR LATINEX PERSON. THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER BERYL HANCOCK, AND THE 20TH CENTURY WAS ELECTED IN 1971. THE FIRST LATINEX MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, JOHN TRIVINIA WAS ELECTED IN 1975. THERE'S MANY EXAMPLES OF VIOLENCE, UH, AT THE HANDS OF THE POLICE, BUT THAT I WON'T READ THEM ALL, BUT I'M GOING TO READ A FEW ON JULY 31ST, 1971, 16 YEAR OLD, JOE SAID THE NEW JR WAS SHOT SIX TIMES AND KILLED BY POLICE. AS HE RAN FROM THE SCENE OF A BURGLARY AT AN EAST AUSTIN GROCERY STORE, DESPITE COMMUNITY PROTESTING EFFORTS, A GRAND JURY REPORT RULED THE INCIDENT AS A JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE. AND THE TWO OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING WERE REINSTATED 1972. OKAY. AUSTIN GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS. UH, HERE WE HAVE AN IMAGE, THE BLACK CITIZENS TASK FORCE AND THE AUSTIN CHAPTER OF THE BROWN BERETS WERE GRASSROOTS LED ORGANIZATIONS FORMED IN ORDER TO COMBAT RACISM IN AUSTIN, INCLUDING POLICE BRUTALITY. NOW I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE EIGHTIES. LET'S LOOK AT MINE, 1880 TO 1983, THE KKK MARCHES ACROSS TEXAS IN 1982, THE BASS DROP CHAPTER OF THE KKK THREATENED VIOLENCE AND DEATH TO MEMBERS OF THE BLACK CITIZENS TASK FORCE AND THE BROWN BERETS IN 1983, THE KKK MARCHED ACROSS TEXAS AND POLICE IN AUSTIN, ATTACKED COUNTER PROTESTERS WITH EXCESSIVE FORCE. OKAY, NOW I'M GOING TO MOVE TO THE NINETIES. LET'S LOOK AT 1990S. YEAH. YEARS OF RESEARCH AND ACTIVISM LED TO THE POPULARIZATION OF THE TERM RACIAL PROFILING TO DESCRIBE POLICE PRACTICES, TARGETING PEOPLE OF COLOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS WERE FORCED TO START SEEING RACIAL PROFILING AS AN ISSUE. AND IN SOME CASES ADDRESS THE ISSUE THROUGH POLICY CHANGES, BUT NOT ALWAYS WITH PRACTICE. OKAY. ANOTHER THING IN THE 1990S, EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITY GROUPS ORGANIZE TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF EAST AUSTIN RESIDENTS. [01:35:01] THEY SUCCESSFULLY CLOSED A TOXIC WASTE DUMP THE TANK FARM, A HAZARDOUS WASTE LANDFILL, AND THE HOLLY POWER PLANT IN 2003, THEIR ORGANIZING LED THE CITY COUNCIL TO REZONE OVER 600 PROPERTIES IN EAST AUSTIN FROM INDUSTRIAL TO LESS INTENSE USE CLASSIFICATIONS, MAKING THE EAST SIDE A SAFER AND MORE ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO LIVE. THIS PAVED THE WAY FOR GENTRIFICATION OF THE EAST SIDE. NOW I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE LATE NINETIES, 1998, SMART GROWTH AND GENTRIFICATION. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER TO NOT SPEAK TOO QUICKLY FOR THE INTERPRETERS AUSTIN CITY GOVERNMENT ADOPTED THE SMART GROWTH INITIATIVE AND ESTABLISHED A DESIRED DEVELOPMENT ZONE COMPRISED MOSTLY OF THE AREA EAST OF EARMARKING EAST AUSTIN FOR RAPID GENTRIFICATION. LET'S MOVE TO THE TWO THOUSANDS. THE NEW URBANISM OF AUSTIN CONSISTED OF YOUNG WHITE FLIGHT TO CITIES RATHER THAN TO THE SUBURBS PUSHING PEOPLE OF COLOR OUT OF NEAR TO CITY CENTER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT, SEVEN OH TWO, ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY GENTRIFIED AND WHITENED ZIP CODES IN THE U S GENTRIFICATION OF THE EAST SIDE WAS THE REASON THAT AMONGST THE 10 FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE U S AUSTIN WAS THE ONLY ONE TO EXPERIENCE A DECLINE IN ITS AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION BETWEEN 2000 AND 2010. OKAY, WELL THAT WAS HAPPENING NATIONALLY IN 2001, WE HAD SEPTEMBER 11TH, WHICH CHANGED THE FACE OF POLICING AND SURVEILLANCE AT BOTH A NATIONAL AND A LOCAL LEVEL AND IMPACTED US HERE IN AUSTIN. THAT'S MOVE THE AHEAD. JUNE 14TH, 2003, JESSE LEE OWENS JR. WAS SHOT FIVE TIMES AT CLOSE RANGE AND KILLED BY AUSTIN POLICE. OFFICER SCOTT GLASGOW, GLASGOW WAS INITIALLY CHARGED FOR CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE, BUT THE CHARGE WAS LATER DROPPED IN HIS THREE-YEAR TENURE. HE FILED 23 USE OF FORCE REPORTS, FAR MORE THAN MOST OFFICERS. EACH OF THE SUSPECTS WAS BLACK OR LATINO. THAT'S 2003, WHERE I WANTED US TO JUMP TO 2011, EH, AWESOME POLICE OFFICER NATHAN WAGNER, FATALLY SHOT, BYRON CARTER, JR. OFFICER WAGNER AND OFFICER JEFFREY FOLLOWED CARTER AND HIS TEENAGE FRIENDS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE ACTING SUSPICIOUSLY. OFFICER WAGNER FIRED AT THEIR CAR AFTER THEY SPED OFF FATALLY WOUNDING CARDNER WHO WAS IN THE PASSENGER SEAT THAT SAME YEAR, 2011, THE AUSTIN OFFICE OF THE POLICE MONITOR REPORTED THAT BLACK AND LATINEX RESIDENTS WERE MORE LIKELY TO BE SEARCHED DURING A TRAFFIC STOP THAN WHITES. TRAFFIC STOPS RESULTED IN A SEARCH ONE OUT OF EIGHT TIMES FOR BLACK DRIVERS AND ONE OUT OF 10 TIMES FOR HISPANICS, BUT ONLY ONE OUT OF 28 TIMES FOR WAY EIGHT RESIDENTS. THIS IS 2009. OKAY. THEN I WANT TO JUMP TO 2000 MARTIN PROSPERITY INSTITUTE ISSUED A REPORT THAT IDENTIFIED THE AUSTIN METRO AREA AS THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SEGREGATED METRO AREA IN THE UNITED STATES. SO THIS IS SOME OF THE CONTEXT THAT WE'RE LIVING IN AND SAME YEAR AUSTIN HAD THE FOURTH HIGHEST TOTAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE FATALLY SHOT BY POLICE IN THE NATION. THIS IS 2015, ACCORDING TO AN ANALYSIS BY THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER, THE REPORT SHOWED AUSTIN HAD SIX DEATHS CAUSED BY POLICE IN 2015. THE SAME AS IN NEW YORK CITY, MAY, 2017. I WANTED TO [01:40:01] BAN SANCTUARY CITIES WITH SB FOUR. THE LAW REQUIRES ALL TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO COMPLY WITH US CUSTOMS AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND WOULD PUNISH LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES FOR NOT ENFORCING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS. SB FOUR REQUIRES LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DIRECT RESOURCES, RESOURCES SUCH AS JAIL SPACE. OFFICER'S ON-DUTY TIME AND LOCAL TAX DOLLARS TO WORK THAT TRADITIONALLY HAD BEEN RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND THEN IN 2018, THE CITY, YEAH. DID SOMEONE SAY SOMETHING CITY OF OFFICE? THE CITY OF AUSTIN OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WAS IN THE LI EAT UP TO APPROVING A NEW CONTRACT WITH THE AUSTIN POLICE ASSOCIATION. AFTER NEARLY A YEAR OF NEGOTIATIONS, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A FOUR YEAR AND 44.6 MILLION CONTRACT MILLION-DOLLAR CONTRACT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE LOCAL POLICE UNION. SOME POLICE REFORM ACTIVISTS CELEBRATED THE CONTRACT AS A STEP TOWARDS MORE TRANSPARENCY, INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO FILE COMPLAINTS ONLINE AND ANONYMOUSLY, WHICH WAS NOT A POSSIBILITY BEFORE. AND I WANT TO END WITH 2020, LET'S GO TO 2020, THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT ANALYSIS OF APDS TRAFFIC STOP DATA BY THE EQUITY OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE INNOVATION OFFICE FROM 2015 TO 2018 SHOWED THAT AUSTIN POLICE OFFICERS DISPROPORTIONATELY STOP AND ARREST AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND LATINOS AFRICAN-AMERICANS MADE UP 15% OF THE STOPS, 25% OF THE ARREST, AND LESS THAN 8% OF THE ADULT POPULATION LATINEX FOLKS MADE UP 33% OF THE STOPS. 43% OF THE ARRESTS AND 31% OF THE ADULT POPULATION. THE ANALYSIS ALSO SHOWED THAT ARREST DUE TO TRAFFIC STOPS OR DISPROPORTIONATELY CONCENTRATED IN EAST AUSTIN WHILE WARNINGS WERE CONCENTRATED IN WEST AUSTIN. AND I GUESS TO BRING US TO THIS MOMENT, UH, RIGHT NOW COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HERE IN AUSTIN THIS YEAR LAUNCHED A CAMPAIGN TO REPLACE PUBLIC SAFETY LEADERSHIP IN AUSTIN, INCLUDING THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE ASSISTANT CHIEFS OF POLICE AND THE ASSISTANT, AND AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THE CITY MANAGER CREATED A CITY COMMUNITY RE-IMAGINING TASKFORCE, WHICH IS A US CENTERING VOICES, MOST IMPACTED BY POLICE VIOLENCE. CITY COUNCIL ALSO VOTED TO REDUCE THE $431 MILLION APD BUDGET BY APPROXIMATELY 21 MILLION WITH AN ADDITIONAL 130 MILLION MARKED FOR THIS RE-IMAGINING PROCESS, WHICH BRINGS US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO WE CAN STOP SHARING THE TIMELINE IF YOU WANT. AND I WANT TO HAND IT OFF BACK TO OUR FACILITATORS. UM, TWO SURE. HANDED OFF BACK TO THE FACILITATORS. AND FOR ME AS SOMEONE THAT JUST READ THIS, REALLY RECOGNIZING THAT ALL OF THIS HISTORY WAS NOT A NEUTRAL IN TERMS OF VALUES, WHAT WAS NOT VALUES NEUTRAL. THERE WAS DEFINITELY VALUES LEADING THE WAY. UH, SO I'M IN US THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE PICK UP FROM THERE. SO MY AND KELLY, THANKS, BOLA. UM, AND SO NOW, UH, I'M GONNA ASK QUESTIONS LIKE WE DID IN THE LAST SESSION, UM, ABOUT VALUES. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE VALUES THAT WE SAW DEMONSTRATED IN THIS HISTORY AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE DEMONSTRATED IN THE NEW HISTORY THAT WE'RE CREATING WITH THIS PROCESS? AND I'LL JUST OFF OF THAT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET IT MOVING. SURE. KELLY, THIS IS CHAZ. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN SAYING. THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS THAT WORKED ON THIS. UM, BUT I'M CURIOUS AS TO, UM, HOW YOU ALL DECIDED WHAT INFORMATION WOULD BE ON THE TIMELINE AND WHAT WOULDN'T BE ON THE TIMELINE. RIGHT. CAUSE WHEN I THINK OF POLICE IN, UM, IN AUSTIN, I THINK OF THE CEDAR STREET INCIDENT. RIGHT. UM, RIGHT. LIKE, LIKE IT'S CRAZY TO ME THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE TIMELINE, [01:45:01] UM, BECAUSE IT WAS THAT, UM, INCIDENT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, I'M LOOKING AT KELLY MONITOR'S OFFICE. YEAH. WHICH, WHICH IS, UH, W WHICH IS ALL A PART OF THIS. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO DIDN'T SEE SOPHIA KING, LIKE IT'S A LOT OF NAMES ON THIS LIST THAT, UM, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW YOU, HOW YOU ALL PICKED AND CHOOSE ON WHAT MADE THE TIMELINE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TO ALSO BE A GOOD STUDENT AFTER BEING A, NOT SO GOOD IN SUIT OF, UM, GOING AROUND THE QUESTION, UM, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, HOPEFULLY AUSTIN BECOMING AN EXAMPLE OF INVESTING IN COMMUNITY, INVESTING IN COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS SO WE CAN SEE DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. RIGHT. UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS VERY EXTENSIVE TIMELINE, UM, FROM LIKE THE INCEPTION OF QUOTE UNQUOTE POLICING IT'S IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS THING TO, TO POLICE AND, AND, AND CAPTURE AND KILL BLACK AND BROWN BODIES AND POOR FOLKS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO US REALLY. UM, AND HOPEFULLY, TRULY PULLING AWAY FROM THAT IDEA AND INVESTMENT TO NOT EVEN NEW COMMUNITY IDEAS, RIGHT? LIKE IDEAS THAT COMMUNITY FOLKS HAVE BEEN DOING. UM, IF YOU GO BACK LONG ENOUGH, IT'S JUST A PART OF OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE AND REALLY UPLIFTING THAT AND INVESTING IN THAT AND SAYING NO MORE WITH THIS. SO, UM, YEAH. UM, THANK YOU, CHAZ. AND JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, SOPHIA KING IS ON THERE. UM, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT THE CEDAR STREET INCIDENT AND WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, I MEAN, WE, WE SHOULD HAVE, AND WE CAN GO BACK AND ADD IT. UM, IF, UM, THAT WAS AN INCIDENT THAT ACTUALLY, UH, UH, A STAFF MEMBER OF THE CITY, UM, WAS THERE THE DAY IT HAPPENED. AND SO, UM, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL ADD IT. UM, MOVING FORWARD. I WON'T GO INTO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. UM, JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. I'M GLAD YOU CHECKED IN FOR THAT THOUGH. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AS SOMEBODY, UH, FROM AUSTIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UM, DOES ANYBODY WELL, I'LL CALL ON SOMEONE ELSE WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM, FROM, UM, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CHRIS, SHORTER, YOU LOOKED INTERESTED ON THE ZOOM. SO I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU JUST TO HEAR ABOUT, OF COURSE I'M INTERESTED, RIGHT? THIS IS, IT IS HARD. LET ME STEP BACK AND SAY THAT FOR MANY OF THE FOLKS FROM COMMUNITY ON THIS TASK FORCE, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU DO WITHOUT LOVE OR THIS CITY AND OUR HEART FOR SEEING THE CITY, UM, BE BETTER. AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN PUBLIC SERVICE, IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE NOT COME INTO THIS WORK BECAUSE YOU HAVE HEART FOR WANTING TO SEE OUR CITY. SO IT'S RESIDENTS THAT ARE, UH, IT IS DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT THIS TIMELINE AND TO SEE ALL OF THE IMPACTED LIVES FROM VERY, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND WHERE YOU ALL STARTED TO PRESENT DAY. AND LIKE CHAZ MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF PIECES THAT WE JUST DIDN'T THE GROUP, THE, THE, THE FOLKS WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO FIT IT ALL IN. BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. IT IS POWERFUL TO CALL THIS OUT AND TO SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND I GUARANTEE THAT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS ON THIS LINE ON THIS CALL, AND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO WILL LOOK AT THIS VIDEO LATER, WHO JUST DID NOT KNOW. AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE TIME TO CALL THIS HISTORY OUT, UH, ESPECIALLY THE EARLIER DAYS OF THIS HISTORY WHERE THE STRUCTURE, UM, UH, OF THE, OF THE POLICING APPARATUS WAS DEVELOPED. SO, UH, THAT SAID TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, KELLY, UH, IN TERMS OF VALUES, WHAT I AM HOPING TO SEE HERE, AND, UH, INEXPERIENCE IS WHAT, UM, HAS LED TO THIS CONVERSATION. AND THAT IS A COMMUNITY VOICE AND WHAT COMMUNITY POLICING, UH, AND, UH, WITH A MIND TOWARDS, UH, HEALTH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE BRING [01:50:01] MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE, UH, AND OTHER SERVICES TO, UH, THE FOREFRONT, UH, WHERE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS IT TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT. UH, AND SO I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, VERY MUCH THAT YOU ALL TOOK THE TIME TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. IT REALLY MEANS A LOT TO ME. AND, UH, AND I HOPE TO EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS TASK FORCE, MANY OF, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THIS HISTORY, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS WHO DON'T. UH, AND SO, UH, KELLY, IF YOU SAW THAT IN, IN MY FACE Y'ALL REACTIONS, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW. I APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK OTHERS DO AS WELL ON THE TASK FORCE. UM, REAL QUICK. I KNOW WE ARE, UM, CONSTRAINED FOR TIME, BUT WE REALLY WANT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET A FEW MORE VOICES IN AND, UM, UH, JUST ASK FOR SOME GRACE AROUND TIME TONIGHT. UH, I SEE THAT AMANDA LEWIS'S HAND ISN'T, UM, AND ACTUALLY SHE WAS THE NEXT PERSON THAT I WAS GOING TO CALL ON. SO, AMANDA, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. IT'S THE OTHER DARK WHERE I AM. I JUST WANTED TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID. I THINK I HAVE, I MEAN, I'M FEELING THE HISTORY VERY DEEPLY. AND I THINK ABOUT, I HAVE A LOT OF PERSONAL THOUGHTS AND A LOT OF, UM, UH, LOTS OF PROCESS, AND I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR OUR TASK FORCE, THE MEMBERSHIP OF, UM, THE FOLKS THAT ARE AT THE TABLE HERE DOING THIS WORK TO BE HOLDING, UM, SO MUCH OF WHAT OUR CITY HAS EXPERIENCED. AND, AND I THINK FOR CITY STAFF TO JUST LISTEN AND FOR FOLKS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING, UM, POLICE ARE PRIORITIZING OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR THEM NOT TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF THIS CONNECTION. I HOPE THAT IT REALLY RESONATES. AND I ALSO HOPE THAT WE CAN, UM, CHECK IN WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS OR FOLKS THAT MAYBE ARE WATCHING THAT AND WANT A DEEPER ANALYSIS. SO I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S WAYS THAT FOLKS CAN PLUG IN. UM, I ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FRIEND OF MINE WAS, UM, WATCHING THIS AS WELL. AND THEIR COMMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT CADETS GET THIS EDUCATION. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE GO INTO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE BEING TRAINED TO DO, THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UM, DO THEY GET THIS HISTORY? DO THEY UNDERSTAND THIS LENS? UM, IS THERE OTHER LENSES THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND POLICING THAT ARE CONTRADICT VICTORY TO THIS AND HOW DO WE GET ON THE SAME PAGE? AND I THINK THIS IS A START TO THAT, BUT I, AS I WAS THINKING, I WAS LIKE, OF COURSE I UNDERSTAND THIS BY WHO IS THIS KIND OF INFORMATION, GETTING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN A POSITION TO REALLY, UM, CHANGE THEIR OWN BEHAVIORS. AND, UM, AND SO, AND I THINK THAT KIND OF GOES TO ONE OF OUR ITEMS, WHICH IS FRUSTRATING. THANK YOU. UM, AMANDA, AND I'LL SAY REAL QUICK, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT CREATED A CURRICULUM ACTUALLY TO GO INTO, UM, THE CADET ACADEMY, UM, AROUND THE HISTORY OF POLICING IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN AUSTIN. AND I WAS GOING TO CALL ON REAL QUICK, MATT SIMPSON. AND THEN I SEE YOUR HAND UP TO, UM, ALICIA AND COINCI Y'ALL ARE MY STACK. SO AFTER MATT, UM, WE'LL GO TO ALICIA AND THEN WE'LL GO TO QUINCY AND THEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NEXT STEPS, UM, LOOK LIKE. OKAY. HI MATT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WILL JUST SAY QUICKLY, MY ONE BIG TAKEAWAY ALONG, OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID, BUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REALLY HISTORIC AND HISTORIC MOMENT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND, UM, THIS PRESENTATION FOR ME REALLY BROUGHT IT HOME. WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT AND A LOT OF IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT WE'RE HERE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN NOW. AND I'LL JUST STOP THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I MADE IS DEFINITELY HISTORIC. SO I SAID, UM, THEN WE'D HAVE ALICIA AND THEN QUINCY YOU'RE PLEASE. YEAH, I THINK SHE MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN DROPPED OFF AGAIN. MAYBE YOU CAN GO TO QUINCY AND HOPEFULLY [01:55:01] SHE CAN COME BACK IN AND OKAY. QUINCY, OH, WAIT, SORRY. I WAS JUST HAVING SOME TECH ISSUES HERE. UM, THE TWO THINGS IS THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HOW, UM, CONNECTING THE FIRST PART TO THE SECOND PART, UM, OVERALL, UM, HOW TO KNOCK HIMSELF APPRECIATIVE OF THE INTENTIONALITY THAT WENT INTO, INTO THIS, UM, PRESENTATION AND APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYBODY WHO IS VERY TRIGGERING FOR, FOR US, EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE IN THIS SPACE. BUT, UM, REALLY COWS IN THAT PAOLO, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOMETHING THAT, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS PROBABLY THAT I MENTIONED IT, HOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY FORMALIZED. I MEAN, GOING BACK TO THE BASIC QUESTIONS AT THE BEGINNING OF WHAT WAS BEING PROTECTED, WHICH WAS PROPERTY AND WHAT WAS BEING, UH, POLICE, RIGHT. UH, WHICH WAS, UM, THE, THE, THE BLACK BODY. UM, AND THEN AS A YEARS AGO, IT'S BLACK AND LATINEX COMMUNITIES AND IN THOSE TOWNS AND YET WHAT CONTINUES TO STILL JUST BE PROTECTED IS PROPERTY AND HOW A LOT OF THAT JUST STAYED RESONATED WITH, UM, A LOT OF WHAT WE SAW IN DURING THE UPRISINGS AND THE THINGS THAT, UH, FOR ME FEEL AS SOMEONE THAT LIVES IN RIVERSIDE, WHAT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY SEE WE'RE ONE OF THE MOST , UM, TWO MILE RADIUS AND ALL OF AUSTIN IS JUST TO PROTECT IT, A PROPERTY THAT IS ALSO BECOMING MORE, UM, ENTICING, UH, TO, TO GENTRIFY OR TO FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN AND WANTING TO REDEVELOP RIGHT THIS AREA. AND SO I WANTED TO, TO REALLY, UH, SAY THAT I AM REALLY HOPING, AND EVERYBODY KEEPS BRINGING UP RIGHT. HOW, WHAT A STRUGGLE MOMENT OR THAT THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING. AND FOR ME, WHAT WOULD MAKE NATURALLY MOST SENSE IS FOR US TO BE, TO CONTINUE MOVING WITH THIS INTENTIONALITY AND THIS PACE. YES, IT DOES NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE TO MOVE IN THIS FLOW WHEN THERE IS A LOT OF CHEESY AS DIRECTLY IMPACTED PEOPLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE ARE HARD CONVERSATIONS, WHICH PROCESSES TO BE ALLOWED FOR. UM, AND THAT, FOR ME, ONE OF THE VALUES THAT I DO HOPE WE BRING IN, UM, RIGHT, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT, HAS NOT BEEN PRESENT, UM, THROUGHOUT HISTORY, IT'S REALLY CENTERING THOSE AND MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED ALICIA. WE MUSSER AGAIN, I THINK I'LL JUST CLOSE OFF. I, I HOPE THAT ONE OF THEM BOUNDS AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT'S REALLY CENTERING, UM, THE, THE VOICE NOT, BUT NOT JUST THE EXPERIENCES OF, UH, THE FOLKS THAT HAVE, THAT ARE SURVIVORS OF POLICE VIOLENCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALICIA. AND, UM, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM QUINCY DONE THAT I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF KELLY. UM, YOU ASKED ABOUT VALUES EARLIER. I VALUE THE HONESTY. I VALUE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND I VALUE, UH, THE INTENTION OF WHAT WE WILL DO GRANTED THE NECESSARY ACTION AND THE FOLLOW THROUGH. UM, SO, UH, ASK FOR A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND WHEN I SAY I, UM, I'M SPEAKING IN A UNIVERSAL BLACK BODY VOICE, UH, THERE ARE PIECES OF INFORMATION MISSING. I WOULD ASK THAT THIS TIMELINE BE A LIVING DOCUMENT. SO AS WE SPEAK TO A CROSS-GENERATIONAL APPROACH TO UNDERSTANDING POLICING, WE WON'T MISS A HISTORICAL CURRENT OR FUTURE CONTEXT TO THESE. I'LL ALSO ASK THAT WHEN WE CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF WHAT THEY WERE PROTECTING, I WANT TO STOP. AND I'M SPEAKING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS A MINIMIZATION OF THE PROTECTION OF EURO WHITE PRIVILEGE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY PROTECTED AND NOT NECESSARILY PROPERTY TO PROPERTY AS A SECONDARY PAL, THEY'RE PROTECTING THE EURO RIGHT PRIVILEGE OF WHITE AMERICANS IN A SPACE WHERE THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT IN THAT WAY SO THAT WE NEVER LOSE CONTEXT OF WHAT THEY WERE PROTECTING AND WHAT THEY WERE DESTROYING AND NOT OUT IN THE HOME. I COMMENT FURTHER UNTIL THE NEXT TIME WE MEET. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT. UM, QUINCY, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE OUT THIS PIECE. I WANT TO, UM, [02:00:01] THANK EVERYONE FOR, UH, PARTICIPATING. AND I TRY TO BRING IN, WE TRY TO BRING IN AS MANY VOICES AS WE COULD INTO THAT CRITICAL CONVERSATION, UM, ESPECIALLY TO JUST BUTTRESS OUR CONVERSATION AROUND VALUES. RIGHT. AND SO MY, AND I CAN GO IN AND SORT OF PULL OUT SOME OF THAT AS WELL. UM, MOVING FORWARD IN THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE AND WHAT WE'RE MOVING OUT OF. RIGHT. AND, AND NOW, UM, I'LL PASS IT TO MY, UH, FOR NEXT STEPS. SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU, KELLY. UM, SO WE REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE END, UM, HERE IN THE NEXT 10 OR SO MINUTES, UM, KATHY, I'LL GO TO YOUR NEXT, UM, TALKING ABOUT WHAT NEXT STEPS WILL BE. UM, AND PAULA. YES. UM, THE LAST PIECE OF OUR AGENDA IS DISCUSSION FOR, UM, THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING. UM, AS, AS IN THE GOVERNING DOC, THAT DOCUMENT THAT, UM, WE SH THAT YOU ALL SHOULD DISCUSS THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING, UM, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO FINALIZE THE AGENDA IN THE MEETING, WE NEED TO PROPOSE, WE HAVE OUR NEW CO-CHAIRS, WHO CAN DO ALSO DO THAT WORK TO, UM, JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COHESIVE AND FINALIZED, BUT I DO WANT TO CREATE THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW. UM, IF YOU HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE IS ADDRESSED, UM, FOR THE NEXT MEETING OR THAT WE HEAR IN THE COACHES HERE, UM, TO TAKE, TO CREATE THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO CREATE THAT SPACE NOW. AND SO I'LL GO TO KATHY AND THEN PAULA, AND THEN IF ANYONE ELSE PUT YOUR HAND UP, YEAH, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO PROPOSE TWO THINGS. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THE CREATION OF A WORK GROUP ON NINE 11, THE WORK GROUP SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE DATA INVESTIGATION, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS STARTED, UH, INTERVIEW PEOPLE FROM CITIES THAT HAVE A SEPARATE NINE ONE ONE CALL SYSTEM AND START TO EXPLORE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A POLICE RESPONSE. THAT'S SORT OF WHAT I WOULD ENVISION AS THE SCOPE OF THAT WORK GROUP. AND THEN SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT NINE ONE, ONE BE ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME, INCLUDING A PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY ON PROGRESS, TOWARDS MOVING NINE 11 OUT OF APD AND POSSIBLY IF IT'S AVAILABLE, IF THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE AVAILABLE, AN UPDATE ON OUR PROGRESS IN MENTAL HEALTH, FIRST RESPONSE, IDENTIFYING AND PUTTING IN PLACE ALTERNATIVE FIRST RESPONDERS. THANK YOU, KATHY PAULA. WELL, I, I HAD SOME THOUGHTS, BUT I THINK, UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR IF OTHERS, UH, WHAT OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PRIORITY FOR, FOR THAT NEXT AGENDA. I WAS GONNA, MAYBE I CAN JUST LAY OUT SOME THOUGHTS OF, OF, OF WHAT, HOW WE COULD DO IT AND THEN HEAR WHAT MAKES SENSE AS I'M NOW GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS WITH, FROM MY END. UM, I GUESS I HAD THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE, WE COULD SPEND SOME TIME IN THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT MEETING TO REALLY, UM, DEEPEN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT VALUES. SO HAVE KELLY AND MAYA PULL OUT WHAT THEY GOT FROM THIS, UH, DEBRIEF, BUT REALLY HAVE A TIME TO TOGETHER, UM, CREATE SOME SHARED VALUES FOR THIS TASK FORCE. THAT WILL BE OUR COMPASS GUIDING OUR WORK, WHAT I THOUGHT WE COULD DO IN THE BEGINNING, THEN THAT WE SHOULD, UH, DEVELOP THE WORKING GROUPS BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO GET TO THE WORKING GROUPS. UM, SO DEFINITELY WHAT KATHY'S PROPOSING, BUT MAYBE THERE'S OTHER WORKING GROUPS THAT WE CAN COME READY TO PROPOSE IS SOMETHING I'M PROPOSING TO YOU ALL. UM, SO THAT THEN WE COULD START TO BREAK OFF INTO THOSE WORK GROUPS. AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THIS TIMELINE, I'M A MIDWIFE AND I'VE, UH, I WAS THE ONE THAT PROPOSED, LET'S DO THIS, UH, HISTORICAL TIMELINE, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF DEVELOPING A TIMELINE AROUND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH, UH, SINCE SLAVERY AND COLONIZATION IN THE U S AND IT'S A PROCESS THAT I'VE BEEN A PART OF FOR YEARS TO DEVELOP THIS TIMELINE. AND HERE WE DID THIS IN A REALLY, REALLY QUICK WAY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET IT GOING, BUT IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDS SO MUCH MORE TO BECOME, TO, UH, KIND OF, UH, REPRESENT WHAT WE WANT TO REPRESENT. SO I, I THOUGHT MAYBE THAT THERE COULD BE ANOTHER PIECE OF WORK THAT'S CONTINUING TO GROW THIS TIMELINE INTENTIONALLY, AND ALSO THINKING ABOUT WHERE AND HOW TO SHARE IT, NOT JUST ON THE CITY WEBSITE, BUT HOW DO WE PRINT IT, MAKE POSTERS, YOU KNOW, MAKE HANDOUTS DO SOMETHING THAT KIND [02:05:01] OF HELPS US ENCOURAGE OUR COMMUNITIES, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES TO REALLY WRESTLE WITH THIS, UM, IN A DEEPER WAY. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD AND I'M GONNA SEE WHAT ELSE DO, W H WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE FOR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS TWO WEEKS AWAY? I BELIEVE I SAW A RAISED HAND UP, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. UM, SO I KNOW THAT WE SPENT SOME TIME EARLIER ON, IN ONE OF OUR EARLY MEETINGS ABOUT, UH, PRIORITIES AND DIFFERENT TOPIC AREAS. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS OF THOSE WERE. I KNOW THAT WE COLLECTED THE INFORMATION AND CAN HELP INFORM, YOU KNOW, THE KATHY JUST MENTIONED 901 AS AN INTEREST AREA. I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE AGAIN WHAT THE, WHAT THE EFFORT WAS, UH, FROM THAT, UH, POLL. AND IT MAY INFORM KIND OF WHERE THE WORK GROUPS, UH, MIGHT BE FORMED AS WELL WHEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. YES. SO REAL QUICK RATE MAYA AND I ARE ACTUALLY WORKING TO THEME OUT, UM, THE PRIORITIES DOCUMENT AND COME UP WITH SOME, I THINK THAT KATHY WANTED TO GET THE NINE 11 WORKING GROUP ROLLING, UM, AS TO HAVE SOMETHING FOR NEXT MEETING. AND THEN, UM, PAOLA'S PROPOSAL IS THAT WE, UM, HAVE A VALUES CONVERSATION AT THE TOP OF NEXT MEETING, A SHORT ONE AFTER MY, AND I WORK OUR MAGIC AND, UM, SEE IF WE CAN APPROVE SOME VALUES, UM, SO A COMPASS TO WORK FROM, AND THEN, UM, MAYA, AND I CAN ALSO SHARE OUT THOSE THINGS, UM, SO THAT FOLKS CAN DECIDE WHICH WORKING GROUPS THEY'D LIKE TO JOIN, UH, WAS KIND OF THE, IS WHAT I WAS HEARING. AND THEN, UM, I THINK NOREE, OH YEAH, NURIA. THEN IT WAS FARRAH AND IT WAS CHRIS HARRIS, THEN IT WAS HALEY. AND I THINK I SAW CHRIS SHORTER'S HAND, ACTUAL HAND GO UP THAT EVERYONE. OKAY. THANKS, KELLY. AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, DEFER TO THE WILL OF THE TASK FORCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. UM, I WANT TO JUST OFFER, UM, A AS WE THINK ABOUT, UM, THIS WORK, WE WANTED TO GROUND OURSELVES IN HISTORY, BUT WE ALSO SAID WE WANTED TO GROUND OURSELVES IN DATA. SO I APPRECIATE, UH, KATHY YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT NINE ONE, ONE, WE WILL BE READY. WE DID SEND YOU ALL A NOTE THAT IF YOU WANT ANYTHING, ANY ADDITIONAL LINES OF INQUIRY, PLEASE SEND US THAT WAY WE CAN. AND DEPENDING ON HOW THIS GROUP VOTES, WE CAN AT LEAST FORM THE WORKING GROUP SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT WORK MOVING, UM, AND HAPPY TO, UH, TAG STAFF AS APPROPRIATE. UM, AND, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE ALL OF THAT READY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, CAUSE WE'RE COMING DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CAN AT LEAST GET THAT WORKING GROUP MOVING AND PERHAPS REPORT BACK DEPENDING ON WHAT OTHER PIECES OF TODAY'S CONVERSATIONS AND PROPOSALS ARE ACCEPTED ON BY THE TASK FORCE. THANK YOU, MARIA. UM, AND THEN WE HAD FAIR NEXT. YEAH. MY ONLY COMMENT IS I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE MOMENTUM FROM THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO KIND OF GET TO WORK. SO I'M JUST IN RESPONSE TO PAULA'S QUESTION. CAN, CAN THIS BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY? CAN WE CONTINUE THE VALUES CONVERSATION, BUT ALSO, UM, CAUSE WE HAVE SOME PENDING WORK GROUPS. I MEAN THE WORK GROUP THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER COULD CONTINUE AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FACILITATORS WORK GROUP AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE A PARALLEL APPROACH OF GETTING TO SOME MORE SUBSTANTIVE WORK THAT THE, THAT THE TASK FORCE CAN, CAN GET TO. THANKS, FARRAH. UM, AND THEN WE HAD HAILEY MIX. HI, I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION AND I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I GUESS WE SHOULD DO THIS NEXT TIME ON, UM, WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE, UM, BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS THAT, UM, NURIA SANTAS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE DECOUPLING VERSUS RE-IMAGINING VERSUS REINVESTMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE LIKE WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND, AND WHAT IS GOING TO MOVE ON WITH, OR WITHOUT OUR, UM, INPUT. I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THAT. I THINK WE DID THIS AT A PREVIOUS MEETING AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GOT LOST HAYLEY, BUT I THINK THE WAY IN WHICH WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THE WAY WE HAD PRESENTED TO COUNCIL BOTH PRE BUDGET AND POST BUDGET AND TO THIS TASK FORCE WAS, [02:10:01] UM, THE AREA, THERE ARE AREAS THAT AS A CITY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ADMINISTRATIVELY AND THINK ABOUT. AND A LOT OF THAT WAS UNDER KIND OF THE DECOUPLING, WHAT COULD BE SEPARATED, WHAT COULD BE THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY. UM, AND REALLY THE RE-IMAGINING CONVERSATION IS A BROADER ONE THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO HEAR COMMUNITY VOICE ABOUT HOW DO WE ENVISION SERVICES IN A DIFFERENT WAY? HOW DO WE SHOW UP WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN NEED? AND SOME OF THOSE WILL RELATE TO EACH OTHER. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE NINE ONE ONE CONVERSATION, THINK IT'S THE EXAMPLE I USE LAST TIME WE SPOKE, CERTAINLY THERE IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN TAKE NINE ONE ONE AND MOVE THAT SEPARATELY, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE A SINGLE STOP CALL CENTER, WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER MODELS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT AND HOW ADMINISTRATIVELY WE DO THAT, RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UH, CIVIL SERVICE ROLES. AND WE GOT TO LOOK AT SORT OF, UM, FOLKS IN THEIR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE, UM, IN THOSE POSITIONS. AND WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT IS SEPARATE FROM PERHAPS A BROADER CONVERSATION, REALLY, UH, DELVING INTO THE NINE 11 DATA AND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW OUR CALLS RECEIVED, HOW OUR CALLS DISPATCH TO WHEELS COULD THOSE CALLS WOULD BE ROUTED TO WHO COULD RESPOND IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THAT IS A CONVERSATION WE ARE HOPING, UM, NOT JUST THE TASK FORCE FOR CERTAINLY THE TASK FORCE, BUT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WE CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW COMMUNITY IS REINVISIONING IN THOSE SCENARIOS. SO THAT IS REALLY AN AREA OF THOUGHTFUL RE-IMAGINING VERSUS KIND OF THE DIRECTION OF HOW DO WE, UH, MOVE ORGANIZATIONALLY, UM, STRUCTURES AROUND, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF, OF LOOKING A LOT OF TALKING TO PEOPLE AND TALKING TO STAFF THINKING WHAT'S APPROPRIATE AND THEN FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVE MIND. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU'D SAID THAT EARLIER ON IN THE PROCESS AND I, I SAW A PRESENTATION ON IT AND IT JUST SEEMED A LOT MORE SEGREGATED. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING WAS CHANGED OR IF THERE'S NOT A NEW DIRECTION. NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN WE, I SEE YOU CARRY YOUR AFTER CHRIS SHORTER, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO TO CHRIS HARRIS AND THEN CHRIS SHORTER, AND THEN YOU CARRY. YEAH. HI EVERYONE. UM, SO I GUESS I WANT TO WEIGH IN, IN SUPPORT OF BOTH THE PROPOSALS SO FAR, BUT ALSO MAYBE THROW IN A LITTLE AUGMENTATION ON IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DO SEE, UM, GOOD REASON TO, TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, UM, AS WELL AS TO, TO GET INTO WORK, BUT, BUT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WORKING GROUPS, BEING SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE NEED TO DO IN A MEETING FORMAT. UM, AND SO I'M WONDERING IF GIVEN THAT WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR PRIORITIES. UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF OUR FACILITATORS ALONG WITH OUR CO-CHAIRS, UM, CAN, CAN USE THAT TO PROPOSE OR HAVE US HELP WORK OUT, UH, IN THE INTERIM, WHAT THOSE WORKING GROUPS MIGHT BE. UM, AND THAT MAYBE WE'RE EVEN ABLE TO, TO MEET, UH, WITH THESE WORKING GROUPS AND HAVE AN INITIAL REPORT BACK THE NEXT TIME THAT WE MEET, UM, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, US SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WORKING GROUPS AND WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THEM AND ALL THAT. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME, IT SEEMS LIKE WORK THAT THAT SHOULD BE DONE SHOULD BE DONE OFFLINE. UM, AND THEN WHEN WE ARE WE'RE HERE, WE CAN BE REPORTING BACK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON INFORMATION THAT WE NEED BACK FROM CITY, YOU KNOW, THE STAKEHOLDERS, UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PLANS THAT WE HAVE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO AND CONNECTING WITH AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ABOUT WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE IN THIS PROCESS. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KINDA MY 2 CENTS. I DO THINK THAT, UM, UH, LASTLY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, NINE 11 IS, UH, IS, UH, AN UNDERSTANDABLE PLACE TO START AS FAR AS RECEIVING, UH, INFORMATION OR REPORT BACKS, UH, PROVIDED THAT THE CITY'S READY TO DO THAT. UM, UM, BUT ALSO, LIKE I SAID, I THINK CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THOSE WORKING GROUPS, UH, IS SOMETHING MAYBE BEST SUITED FOR AN OFFLINE CONVERSATION. UM, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ABOUT THEIR POTENTIAL CAPACITY TO, TO DO A REPORT BACK ABOUT NINE ONE, ONE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEAR TERM. THANK YOU, CHRIS. AND NOW THAT'S ANOTHER PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE IS THAT WE HAVE THE TWO THAT, UM, PAULA AND KATHY BROUGHT IN, AND THEN CHRIS IS SAYING THAT POTENTIALLY, UH, CREATING THE WORKING GROUPS OFFLINE IN SOME WAY. UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT USING THAT TIME, UH, UH, TOGETHER ON THAT. AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF, UM, ME [02:15:01] AND MY CAN PROVIDE SUPPORT IN, UM, AS WELL. AND, UM, I THINK IT'S CHRIS SHORTER'S TURN. YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE THAT KELLY, AND ACTUALLY AGREE WITH CHRIS HARRIS THAT SOME OF THIS WORK CAN BE DONE OFFLINE. I WILL SAY THAT I WAS ABOUT TO PROPOSE, UH, UH, A WORKING GROUP THOUGH. UH, AND I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT ANY WAY. I, UM, YEAH, I, UH, I, AS WE TALK AND CERTAINLY BUILDING OFF WITH NURIA MENTIONED, I FEEL LIKE POLICING AND PARKS, PARTICULARLY IT IS A CRITICAL, SHARED SPACE IN OUR CITY. UH, AND WHEN DISPUTES OR MISUNDERSTANDINGS OCCUR, OFTENTIMES IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY RISE TO THE, TO THE LEVEL WHERE THERE'S A NEED FOR A UNIFORMED OFFICER. AND I, I FEEL LIKE IT IS A RIGHT CONVERSATION FOR US TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE, UH, SHARE THAT SPACE AND HOW, WHAT THE ROLE, WHAT ROLE COMMUNITY COULD PLAY WHEN THERE IS COMMUNITY, WHEN THERE IS MOST MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW WE SHARE THE SPACE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY INVOLVE, UH, UH, CALLING NINE ONE, ONE, OR CALLING A POLICE OFFICER. SO I WANTED TO PROPOSE STARTING A TASK FORCE AROUND THAT A TASK FORCE, UH, UH, WORKING GROUP, UH, AROUND, AROUND, UH, PUB PARKLAND IN PARTICULAR, BUT OTHER SHARED SPACES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FOR A WORKING GROUP AROUND PARKS, UM, AND POLICING. ARE THERE FOLKS WHO ARE, WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF WE SHOULD. YEAH. UH, ANY, ANY MEMBER CAN PROPOSAL WORKING GROUP. AND SO I THINK NOW WE JUST NEED FOLKS TO JOIN THAT WORKING GROUP. ARE THERE FOLKS WHO WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO JOIN THAT WORKING GROUP WITH CHRIS? I THINK BECAUSE WE'VE HAD NOW SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRIORITIES, KELLY, WHAT I WANT TO SUGGEST IS THAT MAYBE AS AN, AS AN ITEM OR AN ACTIONABLE ITEM ON OUR NEXT MEETING AGENDA, THAT WE COME WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LIST. THAT WAY FOLKS AREN'T VOLUNTEERING ONE-OFF, UH, OR WORKING GROUPS, BUT INSTEAD THEY SEE A FULL LIST OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. UM, OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE THAT ON THE, ON THE NEXT MEETING, UM, A LONGER LIST, THE ONE THAT MIKE AND I ARE PROPOSING, UM, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE, AND THEN THERE WAS CARRIE AND I SEE YOUR HAND TOO. UM, KATHY, OH, SORRY, CARRIE, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BOTH CHRIS IS COVERED. I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS FOR, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING, UM, WORK GROUP TOPICS. UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, WHAT THE PLANS WERE FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN CONVERSATIONS IN THIS GOING FORWARD, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, TO BE WORKED OUT BY THE CO-CHAIRS OFFLINE AND, UH, REPORT BACK. BUT, UH, UM, TO KATHY AND CHRIS'S POINT TOO, I HAVE SOME INTEREST IN SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, SOME TOPICS FOR WORK GROUPS AS WELL. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU, CARRIE. I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS HAVE PEOPLE EMAIL THE FACILITATORS, UM, AND THE, UH, COACHING, THEIR IDEAS ABOUT WORK GROUPS. AND, UM, WE'LL ADD THOSE INTO, UM, THE ONES THAT WERE ALL, UM, PROPOSED AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT MAYA AND I SORT OF THEME OUT FROM THE PRIORITIES LIST. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? OKAY. AND, UM, ALL RIGHT. REMEMBER YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? WELL, I'M FEELING A LITTLE LIKE, UM, THE NINE ONE, ONE PIECE I THINK IS PROBABLY UNCONTROVERSIAL. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN FIGURE OUT IF THEY WANT TO BE ON THIS WORK GROUP, BUT LIKE, I KNOW I WILL, I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER TO BE ON IT. UM, SO I'M HESITATING BECAUSE [02:20:03] I KIND OF FEEL LIKE I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, AND JUST HAVE IT VOTED RIGHT NOW SO THAT IF PEOPLE WANT TO THEN START TALKING ABOUT THE NINE 11 STUFF, WE CAN START THE BALL ROLLING. UM, AND IT KIND OF ALREADY IS. SO MY CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT THE SPIRIT OF THIS TASK FORCE TO GET LEFT OUT OF THE DIALOGUE. THAT'S GONNA OCCUR IN THE WORLD ANYWAY. AND I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'RE BRINGING TO THAT DIALOGUE IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT. SO I GUESS I'M CONVINCING MYSELF TO JUST MAKE A MOTION. SO I'M IN AN EMOTION TO CREATE A, NOT A NINE ONE, ONE WORKING GROUP. HE SUSPENDED THE ROBERT'S RULES. REMEMBER KATHY, WE GOT RID OF THAT LIKE AN HOUR AGO. YEAH. I MEAN YOU CAN SAY YES. YEAH. I MEAN WE CAN, BUT IT, TECHNICALLY, SINCE WE SUSPENDED THE RULE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK, I THINK, AND I'M LOOKING AT MY CODE. WELL, YEAH, OUR CO-CHAIRS NOW I THINK THEY CAN TAKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN CONSIDERATION, BUT I MEAN, ARE WE GET THIS AGREE, BUT I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I THINK BECAUSE OF THE NINE, 11 PIECE IS MOVING IN REAL TIME. UM, CAN YOU ALL SAY MORE ABOUT THAT? CAN Y'ALL TALK ABOUT, UM, HOW NINE 11 IS MOVING IN REAL TIME. AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. IT'S EIGHT 28. Y'ALL YEAH. I'LL TRY TO SAY THIS IN ONE MINUTE AND I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT, UM, NURIA AND THE REST OF THE CITY. I JUST ASSUMED THAT THE NINE ONE ONE PIECE IS, IS PROBABLY, UM, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES IN THAT, IN THAT, UM, UM, DECOUPLING DECK. AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CITY IS VERY, UM, WILLING, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANXIOUS, BUT VERY WILLING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT AS SOON AS THEY CAN. UM, AND I ALSO THINK THE NINE 11 PIECE IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, JUST BASED ON SOME OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT WE'VE HEARD ALREADY, UM, IS VERY ANXIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ANTI WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALREADY ATTACK, YOU KNOW, THE NINE 11 SPECIFICALLY. UM, SO I THINK IF THE CITY COULD COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEIR PROPOSALS, SOME OF THE IDEAS, AND WE CAN DO THE WORK GROUP STUFF IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE BRIAN AND PAULA DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD VOTE FOR THAT. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T VOTE RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU WILL, AND I'M SORRY, I'M JUMPING IN. UM, BUT SINCE WE SUSPENDED ROLES, I'M JUMPING IN FROM CAUSE NINE 11. SO I WOULD SAY THIS, THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE ARE ANXIOUSLY DELVING INTO NINE ONE ONE. WE HAD THE PRESENTATION AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION. WE ASSUMED WE WOULD COME TO THIS TASK FORCE AND DO EVEN A DEEPER DIVE WITH YOU ALL, UM, WITH THE FOLKS THAT PRESENTED SO THAT YOU COULD ASK QUESTIONS, SAY WHERE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH, UH, PUSH US TO CONTINUE TO REALLY GO DEEPER AS WE DO THAT. SO WE WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT FORWARD. I KNOW THAT CARRIE IN THE INNOVATION OFFICES IS LURKING AND LISTENING AT SOME POINT. SO SHE KNOWS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, BUT PD AND CTM AND OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS, SO WE CAN BE READY TO PRESENT SOMETHING. AND HOPEFULLY WHAT THAT WILL DO IS HELP GIVE ADDITIONAL, UM, WORK TO STAFF. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT NINE ONE, ONE THAT IT WILL SOLIDIFY WHAT SORT OF THE WORKING GROUP WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT AS THAT MOVES FORWARD. UM, CERTAINLY CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE AT ANY POINT. I CAN'T EVER GUARANTEE THAT WE'LL HAVE FINISHED THE WORK BY THE TIME THAT WE PROVIDE AN UPDATE, BUT I AM ALWAYS HAPPY TO SHARE WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HAPPENING, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND SO, UH, WHETHER IT IS THE ENTIRE MEETING THAT IS DEDICATED TO THAT NEXT TIME, OR WHETHER, UH, AS PAULA SUGGESTED THERE IS A SPACE IN WHICH TO AT LEAST DEBRIEF, REFLECT, AND THINK ABOUT THE CONTINUATION OF THIS REALLY, I THINK IMPORTANT HISTORIC TIMELINE AND CONTINUED WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE GROUP THAT WAS WORKING ON IT HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW DO WE SUSTAIN IT AND HOW DO WE KEEP GROWING THEM? UM, MAYBE THERE IS SOME SPACE IN THE BEGINNING TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, AND THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY DIVE INTO NINE 11. SO IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE GROUP, KNOW THAT WE CAN BE READY WITH THAT. IS THERE ANY DESCENT? I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE NOW FORMALLY VOTING, BUT IS THAT OKAY WITH PEOPLE? IT'S OKAY. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, SINCE WE'RE JUST KIND OF JUMPING IN OUT OF LINE, [02:25:03] I AM IN SUPPORT OF THAT AND I WAS STANDING READY TO SECOND CATHY'S MOTION. IT IS WORK IS MOVING ALONG. I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF INFORMATION. WE CAN BRING BACK TO THE, TO THE GROUPS THAT ARE WORKING ON IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WORK GROUP FORMS SO THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, GET IN THAT AREAS, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH WORK TO DO. AND THIS ONE IS ALREADY KIND OF STARTING TO, TO, UH, PRODUCE. RIGHT. AND SO WE WANT TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DATA THAT IS COLLECTED AND KIND OF LOOK AT THE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AND THEN, UM, PUT OUR STAMP ON IT. UM, BECAUSE I, I AGREE WITH KATHY, WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THIS GROUP HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE INPUT. OKAY. AND SO FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO JOIN THAT GROUP, UM, I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS JUST SEND SOME THINGS OUT ELECTRONICALLY, UM, AND GET FOLKS, UM, GIVING, SEE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN THAT GROUP. AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK NEXT TIME, UM, WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THE PROPOSED WORKING GROUPS ON THE TABLE FOR PEOPLE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO JOIN. AND WE CAN HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM THE NINE ONE, ONE FOLKS THAT, UM, NARITA PROPOSED AND MAYBE A TINY LITTLE CONVERSATION ABOUT, ABOUT VALUES. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? AND THEN FROM HERE ON OUT, WE'LL HAVE THE COACHING WITH YOU ALL, UM, PATRICIA AGENDA TOGETHER, CAUSE REMEMBER GOVERNANCE DOC. WE SAID THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. SO, UM, SO WE HAD, I JUST WANTED TO CRAFT THAT UP CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME. WE WOULD HAVE TWO DAYS, 14 DAYS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. SO THAT GIVES US TWO DAYS TO COME UP WITH THAT, UM, AGENDA THAT IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? UM, SOME FOLKS ARE OFF CAMERA, BUT WE GOOD. OKAY. UM, I SEE YOU PERSONALLY, YOU GOT SOME YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO LISTEN. UM, SARAH'S NEEDS TO MUTE FAIR. CAN YOU MUTE YOURSELF? SHE GOT HER LITTLE DOG. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I'LL JUST LIKE FOCUS IN LIKE I'M TRYING TO HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TRY TO CLOSE IT UP. UM, AND REMIND FOLKS, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON NOVEMBER 5TH. UM, AT THE SAME TIME AND TO EMAIL US YOUR IDEAS ABOUT WORKING GROUPS IN THE MEANTIME, UM, WE WILL SEND OUT THE PROPOSED AGENDA AND UM, WHAT ELSE I WANT TO THANK THE, UH, INTERPRETERS AND OUR TECH FOLKS AND STAFF. UM, GOOD JOB. I WANT TO THANK THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS. OF COURSE. THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP. UM, AND THE COMMUNITY, FOLKS AND STAFF THAT WORKED ON THE TIMELINE. IT WAS REALLY GOOD. UM, AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT A LIVING DOCUMENT AS WE AGREED. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED CLARIFICATION, JUST REACH OUT TO, UM, ANY OF THE CITY STAFF OR YOUR CO-CHAIRS, UM, FOWLER ROJAS AND BRIAN OAKS. THANK YOU, FACILITATORS. APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. Y'ALL TAKE CARE. OKAY. THANKS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.