Nov 02, 2020 CAMPO

[00:00:07]

WELL, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY.

I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO

[1. Certification of Quorum – Quorum requirement is 11 members]

ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, WE ARE MEETING LIVE, UH, VIRTUALLY, UM, STILL UNDER THE DISASTER DECLARATION ENACTED BY THE GOVERNOR.

UM, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND, UH, DOYLE, OR IF YOU SEE ANYBODY ELSE, UM, POP INTO THE MEETING WHERE YOU MAKE NOTE OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN RECORD THEIR ATTENDANCE.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND, UM, I WAS NOTIFIED BY DOYLE THAT WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, TODAY.

SO, UH, WE WILL SKIP THAT PART AND GO ON.

UM, I HAVE, UH, NO AMOUNT ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS TIME.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW ANYBODY FROM THE TAC ON THE CALL.

WAS THERE A TIME? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A TAC MEETING.

WAS THERE, THERE WAS NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO WE WILL SKIP THAT COMMISSIONER SHEA.

I SEE YOU.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

AND, UH, I KNOW I'VE BEEN ON FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UH, I'M ALSO CARRYING A COMMISSIONER AND CIVILIANS PROXY AND HIS STAFF WAS GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ASHBY ABOUT IT.

HE GOT THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, NOTHING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS, WHICH IS ITEMS SIX THROUGH EIGHT.

UM, IS THERE, HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE

[6. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on October 12, 2020 Meeting Minutes]

OKAY.

MOTION BY MAYOR MORGAN.

AND I THINK I HEARD A SECOND FROM JUDGE OAKLEY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES OR, OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THIS MOTION? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

UH, WE WILL ASSUME THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY,

[7. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on Open Roads Policy for CAMPO Region]

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER SEVERAL MEETINGS TOGETHER.

UM, WE HAD A PRESENTATION ON THIS, UM, AND I THINK TOM HAS, UH, BROUGHT THIS BACK TO US, UH, FOR ACTION TODAY.

SO, UH, TOM, I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE LINE IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, WITH OUR PRESENTATION.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR.

MY NAME IS TOM FELLER.

I'M WITH KINLEY HORN ASSOCIATES AND KIMLEY-HORN HAS BEEN WORKING WITH CAMPO AND THE TXDOT AUSTIN DISTRICT TO DEVELOP THE REGIONAL OPEN ROADS POLICY.

UM, AS WAS NOTED, WE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FOR INFORMATION IN AUGUST, AND WE ALSO PRESENTED THIS POLICY TO THE TAC IN SEPTEMBER.

SO TODAY I WANTED TO PROVIDE JUST A BRIEF REFRESHER OF WHAT'S IN THE OPEN ROADS POLICY, DISCUSS THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED FROM THE TAC.

AND THEN, UH, WE HAD A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL.

THE REGIONAL OPEN ROADS POLICY FOR TRAFFIC INCIDENT MANAGEMENT IS ESSENTIALLY A FORMALIZED COMMITMENT OF THE REGION TO OPENING ROADS AS QUICKLY AND AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE.

UH, AFTER TRAFFIC INCIDENTS, UH, WE DEFINE TRAFFIC INCIDENTS IS ANY TYPE OF CRASH.

THE BRI IN THE ROADWAY TO STABLE DISABLED VEHICLE OR OTHER EVENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BLACK BLOCK FOR TRAVEL WAYS.

UM, THESE POLICIES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED IN ABOUT A DOZEN STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, CAMPO WILL BE THE FIRST MPO TO DEVELOP AND ENACT A POLICY.

ALTHOUGH WE HAVE SEEN MANY EXAMPLES OF MPOS, SUCH AS THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION, UH, ENDORSING STATEWIDE POLICIES.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH TEXTILE TRAFFIC SAFETY DIVISION.

WE KNOW TEXAS IS LOOKING TO PUT A POLICY IN PLACE, BUT THE TRAFFIC SAFETY DIVISION ESTIMATED WERE STILL SEVERAL YEARS AWAY FROM HAVING A SIMILAR POLICY ON THE STATEWIDE BASIS.

BUT WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THE POLICY WE ENACT FOR CAMPO IS SIMILAR TO WHAT TEXAS MAY DO ON A STATEWIDE BASIS SO THAT THEY WORK TOGETHER.

UM, AND WE THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TRY TO PUSH THIS POLICY FOR, BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS, UH, OPEN ROADS AND WILL HELP US, PARTICULARLY WITH A MAJOR CONSTRUCTION COMING ON 35 TO TRY TO KEEP, UH, AS MUCH CAPACITY OPEN ON THE FREEWAY, UH, AND MAKE THE FREEWAY SAFER.

UH, DURING A TIME WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY WITH CONSTRUCTION, UH, THE OPEN ROADS POLICY, A KEY PART OF IT IS TO TRY TO REDUCE CONGESTION BY CLEARING INCIDENTS QUICKER.

AND THE SECOND KEY PART IS REALLY TO ENHANCE THE SAFETY OF BOTH

[00:05:01]

UH, WE ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS WE KNOW WHEN EVER THERE'S AN INTERNET, UH, THE LIKELIHOOD OF A FIRST RESPONDER BEING STRUCK INCREASES AS THE INCIDENT CONTINUES.

SO THE LONGER THEY'RE OUT THERE, THE MORE LIKELIHOOD THERE IS OF SOMEONE BEING INJURED AND THE SAME GOES FOR THE PUBLIC.

THE LONGER AN INCIDENT REMAINS, UH, THE MORE TIME IS SPENT WITH PEOPLE STOPPING UNEXPECTEDLY BEHIND A BACKUP.

THE MORE LIKELY THERE IS TO HAVE A SECONDARY CRASH AND OFTEN THOSE SECONDARY CRASHES OR REAR-END CRASHES THAT RESULT IN, UM, VERY, VERY LIKELY INJURY AND SOMETIMES FATAL CRASHES.

SO WE WANT TO TRY TO CLEAR IT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE TO NOT ONLY REDUCE CONGESTION, BUT IMPROVE SAFETY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE PUBLIC.

WE THINK THE POLICY SUPPORTS, UH, PROGRAMS THAT CAMPO CURRENTLY ALLOCATES FUNDING TOWARDS LIKE THE HERO, UH, FREEWAY SERVICE PATROL THAT C TO MAKE INCIDENT SCENE SAFER AND MANAGE TRAFFIC BETTER.

AND THIS CONTINUES TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT.

UH, IT DOES SUPPORT COMPLIANCE TOWARDS READING, MEETING, FEDERAL PERFORMANCE METRIC REQUIREMENTS, UH, AND THERE'S REALLY NO COST WITH THE POLICY.

ULTIMATELY, WE DO WANT TO USE THE POLICY TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND, UM, PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED THAT WILL HELP REDUCE INCIDENTS, BUT THE POLICY ITSELF HAS REALLY NO COST.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THE, UH, THE OPEN ROADS POLICY WAS ORIGINALLY, UH, IDENTIFIED AS A NEED FOR THE REGION AND THE 2018 CAMPO REGIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, STRATEGIC PLAN AND PERFORMANCE ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CAMPO BOARD AND DECEMBER, 2018.

AND THE OPEN ROADS POLICY WAS SEEN AS SORT OF THE OVERARCHING FRAMEWORK THAT WOULD HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE OTHER INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT PLAN.

THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SIX THAT FOCUSED ON, UH, TRYING TO DO THINGS TO IMPROVE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE GREATEST NEED THINGS LIKE HOW WE DEAL WITH SPILL CLEANUP ON FREEWAYS, HOW WE DEAL WITH HEAVY VEHICLE RACKS THAT OFTEN TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO CLEAN UP AND OPEN THE ROADS, UH, PUTTING INTO PLACE SOMETHING LIKE A RAPID CLEAR, UH, TOWING PROGRAM THAT WE QUICKLY MOVE VEHICLES OFF THE FREEWAY, UH, ONTO ARTERIAL STREETS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE CAR VEHICLE, IF A TOW IS NEEDED, WE WANTED TO JUST GET VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

BUT THE OPEN ROADS POLICY WAS SEEN AS, UH, THE INITIAL, A SUPPORTING DOCUMENT THAT WOULD SUPPORT THESE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, JUST THE QUICK OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN THE POLICY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS ANYTIME A ROTE OR TRAVELING IS CLOSED OR BLOCKED, THAT FIRST RESPONDERS WILL, UH, AND INCIDENT RESPONDERS WILL TRY TO REOPEN THE ROADWAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND IN AN URGENT MANNER, BUT SAFETY AND PUMP SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC AND THE INCIDENT RESPONDERS WILL STILL REMAIN THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.

SO IN NO WAY, ARE WE ENCOURAGING ANY TYPE OF BEHAVIOR, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROGRAMS LIKE BEING ABLE TO TOW TO DISPATCH THE NEAREST HOAD TRUCK THAT'S AVAILABLE RATHER THAN SAY, GO WITH A LIST AND MAYBE NOT GET THE CLOSEST TOW TRUCK, UH, UH, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND THE RIGHT TRAINING FOR TOWING PROVIDERS, LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN CLEAR AND INVESTIGATE INCIDENTS SOONER AND QUICKER.

SO WE DON'T WANT TO IN ANY WAY JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY OF FIRST RESPONDERS, BUT WE DO WANT TO TARGET, UH, STRATEGIES AND PROGRAMS THAT WILL MAKE, UH, INCIDENT CLEARANCE HAPPEN QUICKER.

GENERALLY, WE HAVE A TARGET OF CLEARING ALL INCIDENTS WITHIN 90 MINUTES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S CALLED THE NATIONAL UNIFIED GOAL.

THAT'S AN ACCEPTED GOAL AMONG FIRST RESPONDERS ACROSS THE NATION TO TRY TO CLEAR ALL INCIDENTS WITHIN 90 MINUTES.

AND IN OUR PLAN, WE DID IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY FOR FREEWAYS, A GOAL TO RESPOND TO INCIDENTS AND HAVE EQUIPMENT ON SCENE WITHIN 30 MINUTES AND CLEAR THE ROADWAY WITHIN 60 MINUTES.

AND WE'VE REALIZED THAT'S A CHALLENGE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF INCIDENTS, PARTICULARLY FATAL CRASHES.

UH, BUT THAT WAS THE GOAL TO TRY TO STRIVE FOR USING THINGS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES, SUCH AS DRONES THAT CAN ALLOW INVESTIGATIONS TO HAPPEN QUICKER, UH, OR WITH, UH, SOME AGENCIES SUCH AS THE TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF DO WERE OFTEN ON A FATAL CRASH.

THEY MAY TAKE SOME INITIAL PHOTOS AND MEASUREMENTS, BUT THEN COME BACK AT A LATER TIME.

IF THE INCIDENT HAPPENS STORM RUSH HOUR, COME BACK IN THE EVENING OR COME BACK ON THE WEEKENDS.

THAT'S TIME WHEN TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE LIGHTER AND THEY CAN SET UP A FULL TRAFFIC CONTROL OF THE SCENE AND DO THEIR INVESTIGATION.

SO TECHNIQUES LIKE THAT ONE EVEN ALLOW US TO INVESTIGATE IN CLEAR, FATAL CRASHES, MUCH QUICKER.

UM, AND FINALLY THE POLICY DOES RECOMMEND THAT WE TRACK AND ASSESS INCIDENT MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE AS A REGION SO WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT STRATEGIES ARE WORKING AND WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, IN SEPTEMBER, UH, WE PRESENTED THE OPEN ROADS POLICY TO THE TAC FOR INFORMATION.

UH, WE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENTS, BUT I THINK, UH, THE

[00:10:01]

UH, THEY'D GO BACK TO THE BOARD.

UH, JUST A COUPLE OF NOTES FROM COMMENTS WE RECEIVED, THEY ASKED ABOUT, UH, SHOULD THIS INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN AND NON MOTORIZED VEHICLE RELATED TRAFFIC INCIDENTS.

AND THE POLICY ITSELF REALLY APPLIES TO ANY TYPE OF INCIDENT, WHETHER IT'S A CRASH IT'S DEBRIS, IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S BLOCKING THE ROADWAY, BUT WE DID ADD SOME LANGUAGE JUST TO SPECIFY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MOTORIZED AND NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLE TYPE CRASHES ALONG WITH THESE OTHER TYPES OF INCIDENTS THAT MAY BLOCK LANES.

UH, THEY ASKED IF WE SHOULD STATE THE FUNCTIONAL CLASS OF ROAS TO WHICH IT APPLIES, WHICH WE DID ADD SOME LANGUAGE WORKING WITH THE CAMPO OR WORKING WITH CAMPUS STAFF TO SPECIFY THE POLICY DOES APPLY TO MINOR ARTERIAL.

UH, THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEED TO, UH, LOOK AT TRAFFIC SIGNAL, TIMING ON FRONTAGE ROADS AND RESPONSE TO MAJOR FREEWAY TRAFFIC INCIDENTS.

AND WE AGREED THAT THAT IS A KEY STRATEGY TO MANAGE TRAFFIC, UH, BEING ABLE TO ADJUST ARTERIAL SIGNAL TIMING IN RESPONSE TO A FREEWAY CLOSURE.

UH, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW IN THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT IS A STRATEGY WE ENCOURAGE, UH, IF IT'S AVAILABLE, WE REALIZED DIFFERENT CITIES ARE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF TECHNICAL CAPABILITIES.

SO NOT ALL CITIES ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND WE DIDN'T WANT THIS POLICY TO CREATE A BURDEN FOR CITIES, BUT WE DID WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE USE OF THAT, UH, CENTRALIZED TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROL IN RESPONSE TO INCIDENTS.

AND FINALLY, IT WAS ASKED IF THERE'S ENFORCEABLE LANGUAGE IN THE POLICY FOR COLLECTION OF PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UH, AND WHILE THE POLICY SUPPORTS PERFORMANCE MEASURE COLLECTION, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT BURDEN BECAUSE NOT ALL CITIES ARE ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE CURRENTLY COLLECTING PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

THERE IS WORK TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE KEY PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT LIKE THE TIME IT TO RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT, THE TIME TO CLEAR THE ROAD AND THE TIME TO CLEAR THE ENTIRE INCIDENT SCENE, UH, PUTTING THAT IN THE TEXAS STATEWIDE CRASH INFORMATION SYSTEM, CHRIS, UH, SO ULTIMATELY WE THINK THAT THAT INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT OUR REQUIREMENT FOR CITIES AT THE CURRENT TIME, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

AND THAT SUMMARIZES JUST THE INITIAL INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE ATTACK.

WE BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED THE COMMENTS AND, UH, UH, AND THINGS THAT THERE WERE REQUESTED IN THE POLICY.

AND THEN, UH, WANTED TO BRING THIS BACK FOR APPROVAL TODAY.

UM, AND MADAM CHAIR, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, TOM, THANK YOU FOR THAT RECAP.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, UH, I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AT LITTLE OR NO COST TO, TO MAKE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.

AND AS SOMEBODY WHO DON'T, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER BECKETT, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T PRO UH, EXCEPT THE JOY OF SITTING ON 71, UM, ON SUNDAY INCIDENT THAT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR TOM LOAN? THIS IS TUCKER.

I'M NOT A QUESTION NECESSARILY ABLE TO COMMENT IF I, IF I MIGHT PLEASE DO.

UM, I JUST LIKE TO COMMENT, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND, UM, AND SETTING SOME GOALS FOR OURSELVES FOR THE, THROUGH THE ROAD POLICY.

I HAVE TO SAY ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE GET ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD, POSITIVE REMARKS ON IS THE REAL PROGRAM AND, UM, INDIVIDUAL MOTORISTS WHO, UH, SEND IN CARDS AND SEND THEM EMAILS, LETTERS OF COMMENDATION FOR OUR HERO PROGRAM THAT'S AFTER, BUT NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HELPED, BUT I ALSO GET MANY CALLS.

AND, UM, AND THANKS FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, WHETHER IT'S SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENTS, EMS, UM, EVEN FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BECAUSE MANY TIMES WHEN, UH, THEY'RE THE FIRST RESPONDERS ON A SANE AND THAT ARE RESPONDING TO A CRASH AND TRYING TO GET IT CLEARED UP ONCE OUR HERO PROGRAM ARRIVES, UH, THAT RELIEVES THEM OF ANY TRAFFIC CONTROL BURDEN.

SO THEY WORK HAND IN HAND TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, THIS POLICY BOARD TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM THE EFFORTS AND THE PROGRAM AND, AND SET THESE GOALS OUT FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE EMS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND THE, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND HERO IN OUR CASE, UH, WORK FOR THE MEMBERS OF THIS POLICY BOARD.

SO I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU.

SO, TUCKER, THAT SOUNDS LIKE EMOTION TO ME.

I WILL MAKE A MOTION.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

AND I'LL SECOND THAT, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MADAM CHAIR? UM, UH, LET'S SEE.

OH, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT POLICY I'LL, UM, I CAN TELL YOU, MY CONSTITUENTS AT STEINER RANCH WERE ABSOLUTELY

[00:15:01]

WE ALL GOT ALL THE CAPPED EMAILS FROM THEM WHEN THE ACCIDENT ON SIX 20, WHICH WAS A HORRIBLE ACCIDENT, THE DRIVER OF A FIRETRUCK LOST CONSCIOUSNESS AND HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AND CROSSED THE INCOME ONCOMING LANES OF TRAFFIC KNOCKED OUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND, UH, I THINK LOOSENED ELECTRICAL WIRES.

ANYWAY, THE WHOLE INTERSECTION IT'S JUST 20 IN NEAR COMANCHE TRAIL WAS SHUT DOWN, I THINK FOR EIGHT HOURS.

AND SO EVERYONE WANTED TO KNOW WHO, WHO MADE THE DECISION TO STOP TRAFFIC FOR ALL THAT TIME.

SO I, I COMPLETELY SUPPORT, UH, THIS WHOLE, UH, INITIATIVE TO CLEAR THE ROADS MORE QUICKLY.

UM, BUT I JUST HAD A TECHNICAL QUESTION, I GUESS, WHO IS THE ILA WIDTH? TOM, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION? WELL, I, I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WE WERE ASKING FOR APPROVAL AND TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THE TECHNICALITIES OF HOW THAT, THAT IS ACTUALLY APPROVED, BUT I THINK THE IDEA WAS IT WAS JUST THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBER AGENCIES SIGNING ON THAT.

THEY AGREED WITH THE POLICY AND WOULD SUPPORT THE CONTINUED EFFORTS TO KEEP THE ROADS OPEN.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

SO HAVE THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF OR THE DEPARTMENT? YES.

AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS POLICY, WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH, UM, OF COURSE, TXDOT WITH CAP COG, WHICH DOES A LOT OF THE TRAINING OF SOME OF THE MORE RURAL, UH, FIRST RESPONDER AGENCIES, AS WELL AS, UH, POLICE, SHERIFF FIRE.

AND THEN THERE'S A GROUP CALLED AIM HIGH, WHICH IS A REGIONAL INCIDENT MANAGEMENT GROUP MADE UP IT'S LED BY TECHSTOP, BUT MADE UP OF MANY OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE AREA.

AND THEY MEET ON A TYPICALLY IN EVERY OTHER MONTH BASIS TO REVIEW MAJOR INCIDENTS IN THE REGION AND TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO.

MINE'S REALLY A JURISDICTION.

I CAN'T TAKE AN ACTION THAT BINDS MY SHERIFF.

SHE'S AN INDEPENDENTLY LEFT ELECTED OFFICIAL.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT IF, AND WE HAD OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT, I DON'T THINK THEY DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY BINDING BECAUSE THE PARTIES AREN'T SPELLED OUT.

SO I'M FINE TO APPROVE IT.

IT JUST WOULD BE HELPFUL IF THERE WAS MORE, UM, SPECIFIC DETAIL AROUND THESE KINDS OF AGREEMENTS IF THEY INVOLVE SPECIFIC PARTIES, BUT I'M GRATEFUL FOR IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHEA.

AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL IS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PUT, UM, TEETH TO IT? UH, WE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY, UH, WITH SHERIFF AND POLICE CHIEFS, ET CETERA, WOULD BE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UM, UH, DEALING WITH THAT.

BUT, BUT EACH ONE OF OUR BODIES COULD CERTAINLY SHOW, UM, BY, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

YOU HAD A QUESTION.

YEAH, IT'S REALLY SAD.

I SUPPORT THIS TOO.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

AND WE NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

IT'S JUST, UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ILA OR AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE IS, IS, UH, ISN'T A CONTRACT THAT TWO PARTIES SIGN.

AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST PERHAPS SHOULD BE STYLED AS A, AS A, AS A POLICY, BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY MY QUESTION.

IF THERE WAS A INTENT THAT WE GO BACK TO OUR BODIES BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN TWO ENTITIES.

SO I THINK GOING FORWARD, UM, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PASS RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT.

UM, IT, IT, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE CITY OR THE COUNTY AS TO, TO, TO HOW THEY DO THAT.

AND WE CAN CLEAN THAT PART UP, BUT OVERALL, UM, GREAT PROGRAM.

YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BONDING THE CITY THIS WAY AT ALL, YOU KNOW, NOT AN ILA, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

WE CAN, UM, I THINK WE SUPPORT, WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A MEMBER KITCHEN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GO AHEAD.

ASK ME.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSIONERS SHEA, UH, TO YOUR POINT, TOM AND I HAD DISCUSSED, UM, ACTUALLY THIS VERY ITEM LAST WEEK AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE CORRECT WORDING FOR IT.

AND, UM, UM, WE'RE GOOD WITH CHANGING, UM, UH, AND A LOCAL TO A POLICY.

I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY SOLVE THE ISSUE.

WELL, THEY MIGHT JUST BE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THAT.

I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS? SURE.

I'D LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT TUCKER WAS SAYING EARLIER.

MY POLICE CHIEFS AND FIRE CHIEFS, CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE HERO PROGRAM, LONG 35, AND MOST OF THEM, ONCE THEY GET TO THE ACCIDENTS BEFORE THEY DO, AND IT JUST FREES THEM UP TO HAVE VEHICLES.

WE NORMALLY HAVE PROTECTION THAT,

[00:20:01]

SO IT'S A BIG SAVINGS TO THEM.

AND IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

LIKE I SAID, FIRST RESPONDERS CAN'T THINK JUST ENOUGH OR HAVING THAT PROGRAM.

UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

AND JUST AS A, UM, I APPRECIATE TUCKER OR HIGHLIGHTING IT.

UM, BUT A SHOUT OUT, UH, HEARKENING BACK TO SOME EARLIER DAYS ON CAMPO, UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, CHAMPIONED BY SENATOR WATSON WHEN HE WAS CHAIR OF CAMPO AND MYSELF AS VICE CHAIR BACK IN THE DAY.

AND SHE CHIEF ART ACEVEDO.

SO THERE THERE'S SOME, UM, BLASTS FROM THE PAST.

UM, ANY OTHER, IF YOU, IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND MUTING YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, MAYOR HOUSTON.

THANK YOU.

CHEER ALONG.

I HADN'T THE SAME QUESTIONS CAUSE I'M, I WAS LOOKING ON THE SIGNATURE PAGE FOR WHO ELSE WAS SIGNING IT.

IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS YET? YES.

UH, MOTION AND I SECONDED IT.

OKAY.

THEN I WILL, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THAT WE REPLACED THE WORDS INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE WORD POLICY AND IT SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.

HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST DO THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION I TUCKER.

IS THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR YOU? YES, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S FRIENDLY TO THE SECOND, SO THAT WAY WE VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO, UM, I DON'T DO THOSE WHEN I'M DOING A MEETING.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TO US IN THE PUBLIC, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND, BUT AS LONG AS THEY GET CHANGED, I GUESS THAT'S FINE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL GET HER DONE.

UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

IS THERE ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THE MOTION WITH CHANGING THE WORDS ILA TO POLICY? OKAY.

HEARING NO OPPOSITION, UH, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, AND BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, BEFORE HE GETS OFF THE PHONE, I THINK MAYOR ROSS HAS TO LEAVE THE MEETING, BUT THIS, UNLESS HIS MAYOR'S RACE ENDS UP IN A ONE-OFF, THIS IS GOING TO BE HIS LAST MEETING.

SO I WANT TO THANK, UH, MAYOR ROSS FOR YOUR SERVICE TO NOT ONLY THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN, BUT ALSO TO THIS, UH, TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

MAYOR.

HE MAY ALREADY BE GONE.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT,

[8. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on Transportation Development Credit (TDC) Application for City of Kyle Center Street Union Pacific (UP) Siding Relocation]

I THINK YOU HAVE THIS ONE.

GO AHEAD.

YES MA'AM THANK YOU, CHERYL.

UM, SO THIS ITEM IS, UH, REQUESTING THE POLICY BOARD APPROVE A TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDIT APPLICATION FOR THE CITY OF KYLE, UH, UH, FIGHTING RELOCATION PROJECT.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE MAP, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE NEW LOCATION OF THE SIDING.

UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE POLICY BOARD AWARDED BACK IN 2018, THEY WERE AWARDED, UH, CLOSE TO $15 MILLION.

AND THIS IS THE RELOCATE, UH, THE DEVIL TRACKING SIDING THAT IS, UH, CURRENTLY LOCATED, UH, CENTRALLY THROUGH DOWNTOWN WHERE IT CROSSES ARM ONE 50.

UM, AND THIS SIDING ACTUALLY WHEN, UH, TRAIN STOP ON IT ACTUALLY CAUSES A SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION ISSUES, UM, AS WELL AS SAFETY ISSUES, UH, WITH PEDESTRIANS AS WELL AS, UH, HINDERING FIRST RESPONDERS.

UM, SO WE EVALUATED THAT BACK IN 2018 AND THE POLICY BOARD AWARDED THE 15 MILLION, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.

AND SO THE SPONSOR HAS REQUESTED, UM, UH, 3.8 MILLION, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS, AND THIS WOULD BE IN LIEU OF THE LOCAL MATCH.

UM, SO CAMPA CURRENTLY HAS, UH, CLOSE TO 800 MILLION, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS.

UM, AND WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION, UH, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE A BALANCE OF 786, UH, MILLION TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS.

UM, AND SO PART OF THE, UH, WHAT TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDIT DO IS IT ALLOWS THE SPONSOR TO JUST BE REIMBURSED AT A 100% REIMBURSEMENT RATE, UM, ON THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING.

AND SO THE, UH, THE LOCAL MATCH ACTUALLY HAS TO, UH, BE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT TRANSPORTATION PROJECT.

AND THIS IS CALLED THE MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT.

UH, PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDIT POLICY OUTLINED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THAT, UH, IF YOU AWARD TDCS TO A PRODUCTS, YOU PICK THOSE, UH, THE LOCAL DOLLARS THAT WERE ACTUALLY ALLOCATED TO THAT PROJECT FROM THE SPONSOR, AND

[00:25:01]

SO ESSENTIALLY THAT MAINTAINING THE SAME LEVEL OF INVESTMENT AND THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND THE REGION.

UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE, AND THE BACKUP MATERIALS, UH, THE, UH, HAYES COUNTY HAS ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED ON 32 37 AS THEIR MAINTENANCE OF EVER PROJECT AWARD, THE TDCS TO THE TILE SIGNINGS PROJECTS, WHAT, UH, HAYES COUNTY AND THE CITY OF KYLE WILL DO.

THEY'RE GONNA USE THAT LOCAL MATCH AND, UH, USE IT TO IMPROVE MAKE SAFETY UPGRADES, AND IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FIVE INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE RM 32 37 CORRIDOR BETWEEN WIMBERLEY AND KYLE.

IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, SO, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED BOTH PROJECTS, UM, BUT PROTOTYPES, YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE POLICY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OUTLINED IN THE CREDIT POLICY, UM, AS WELL AS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AS WELL.

AND THAT, THAT REQUIREMENT GOES FOR BOTH PRODUCTS.

AND SO WE'VE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION, UM, AND EVERYTHING CHECKS OUT.

AND, UH, SO WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE POLICY BOARD APPROVES THIS APPLICATION, UM, AND WITH APPROVAL, UH, WE WILL MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES AND AMENDS THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UH, TO REFLECT THESE CHANGES.

UM, BUT THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICATION OR THE TVC POLICY, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, RYAN.

UH, COMMISSIONER JONES.

DO I HEAR A MOTION FROM YOU? UM, IS THERE A SECOND MAYOR MORGAN SECONDS THAT, SO, UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, YES.

IS THAT COMMISSIONER SHEA? UM, I'M, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, BUT THIS KIND OF FEELS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY.

I DO NOT RECALL.

UM, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST CAUSE I'M NOT REMEMBERING IT, BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PROPOSAL FOR A MORE FLESHED OUT TDC POLICY BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

HAS THAT HAPPENED YET? IF NOT, I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR THIS, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CAMPO STAFF WILL BRING BACK, UM, A REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A MORE DETAILED TDC POLICY BEFORE WE GRANT MORE, UM, ASHBY, I THINK WE, WE HAVE A POLICY.

IS THERE SOMETHING MORE DETAILED YOU'RE LOOKING FOR COMMISSIONER SHEA? WELL, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT PERHAPS PRIORITIES FOR HOW TO USE CDCS IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO USE THEM.

UM, UH, THE, THE NUMBER I HEARD THAT TODAY'S THE FIRST UPDATE I RECALLED ON THE, UH, TOTAL UNIVERSE OF TD SEASON.

WAS IT 700 MILLION? SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IT'S YES.

AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER, UH, UH, CRITERIA FOR THE SECONDARY PROJECT CAN JUST BE APPLIED TO ANYTHING OR MONEY YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT, OR I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WANTING MORE DETAIL AROUND THAT, BUT I DON'T, I'M, I'M, I'M IN SUPPORTIVE USING IT FOR THIS.

I JUST BELIEVE WE STILL NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE SHAPE TO OUR TDC POLICY.

AND I HAD THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO COME BACK WITH THAT.

UM, I, I TELL YOU WHAT COMMISSIONER, IF THERE'S, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT POLICY AND IF THERE'S ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, LOOK AT THOSE.

I'LL INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE THAT I JUST WENT THROUGH AND SEND IT TO YOU AND ALSO SHOULD INCLUDE ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, OKAY.

THERE IS A MOTION BY TED JONES AND A SECOND BY MAYOR MORGAN CHAIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OH YEAH.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

YEAH.

SORRY.

I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY MUTE AND UNMUTE ANYWAY, SO, UH, YES, I, I, UH, COMMISSIONER SHABBY MENTIONED THAT TOO.

I THINK THAT IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT'S AN ASSET THAT, UM, WE I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT FROM A STRATEGIC PERSPECTIVE, HOW WE CAN USE IT TO HELP US ALL AS A BODY AND, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF CREDITS SITTING THERE.

SO I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD SOME UNDERSTANDING.

SO COMMISSIONER CHERYL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND KIND OF LOOKING AT IT AND THEN SHARE ALONG.

WE COULD BRING YOU SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC, BUT START, START WITH EXISTING POLICY.

CAUSE WE DO SURE.

I THAT'S WHAT I MEANT, I THINK, BUT YOU KNOW, BUT I'M ALSO THINKING IT'S IT'S, IT MAY NOT JUST BE A POLICY QUESTION.

IT MAY ALSO BE, UM, HOW CAN WE BE PROACTIVE WITH THE USE OF THEM TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT THE, UM, THE BODY HAS? SO THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM, HOW TO BEST DCS FOR THE REGION COMMISSIONER SHAY AND, UM, AND COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, WE'LL SEND YOU ALL THE, UM, THE FEDERAL RULES AND THE STATE RULES ON THAT.

SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE THAT TO HELP INFORM, WHICH IS THEN DOES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, HEARING

[00:30:01]

IS THERE ANYBODY AGAINST THE MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

UM, THE MOTION IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THANK YOU ALL.

AND, UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE.

[9. Discussion on Potential Changes to CAMPO Transportation Policy Board (TPB) Bylaws]

UH, WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THESE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

AND SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU WERE SET OR WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP IS MOSTLY JUST CLEAN UP.

THERE'S PROBABLY TWO ITEMS IN HERE THAT, UM, WILL INVOLVE SOME DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, IF YOU ALL WILL INDULGE ME FOR A MINUTE, I WILL JUST WALK THROUGH, I'M GOING TO SKIP THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE GOING TO GARNER MORE CONVERSATION, BUT I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH.

UM, AND THIS, YOU KNOW, FORGIVE ME, THIS WAS, UM, A VERY HIGH LEVEL MINT FOR DISCUSSION ONLY.

UM, THERE WAS NOT A RED LINE VERSION OF THE BYLAWS SENT OUT BECAUSE I WANTED TO REALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WENT OVER THIS AND HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THESE IDEAS ON OCTOBER 23RD.

AND THERE'S A FEW EDITS THAT WERE MADE.

AND ONE THAT I FORGOT TO INCLUDE, UM, IN THIS, THAT I'LL GO OVER WHEN I GET TO IT, BUT I'LL, I'LL RUN THROUGH, UM, THE WHOLE THING.

I'M GOING TO SKIP TWO AREAS TO COME BACK TO.

UM, BUT THE FIRST WAS, UM, I THINK JUST KIND OF CLEAN UP AND SHORTEN THE TITLE OF, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SAYING CAMPO BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR THE BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, JUST TAKE THE, FOR THE PART OUT AND JUST LEAVE IT AS CAMPO BYLAWS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM, THERE ARE DIFFERENT REFERENCES THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S, UM, SOME THAT SAY, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY, WHICH I THINK IS LITERALLY A CARRY OVER TO THE VERY EARLY DAYS OF AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION STUDY.

SO I'M JUST GONNA ASK STAFF TO LOOK AND TIM, UH, TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND IDENTIFY ANY, UM, INCORRECT OR OBSOLETE REFERENCES, UM, GETTING ON DOWN TO WHERE WE CALL IT A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PROGRAM.

I THINK OUR COMMON VERNACULAR NOW IS PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

SO I'M JUST RECOMMENDING CHANGING THAT TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY REFER TO IT AS.

UM, AND ALSO IN SECTION, UH, ONE B UH, YEAH, IT REFERS TO THE AUSTIN METROPOLITAN AREA.

I'D RECOMMEND WE CHANGE THAT TO CENTRAL TEXAS.

AND IF THERE ARE OTHER PLACES WHERE IT SAYS AUSTIN METROPOLITAN AREA, WE CHANGED TO CENTRAL TEXAS, UM, THEN, AND GOING ON DOWN TO SECTION ONE D UM, IT SAYS THE TIP SPECIFIES HOW FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDS ARE.

UM, OUR TIP ALSO INCLUDES STATE AND LOCAL.

SO JUST INSERT THAT CLARIFICATION THERE.

UM, AND SECTION ONE E THE UPP WP, UM, JUST ADDING A BIT OF CLARIFICATION TO SAY THAT, UM, IT IS FEDERALLY REQUIRED.

YOU PWP IS A FEDERALLY REQUIRED DOCUMENT.

AND, UH, AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS THE ESTIMATED EXPENDITURES.

UM, I THINK IF WE INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF YEARS IN THERE, THAT WOULD JUST BE A CLARIFYING STEP, I BELIEVE THAT'S TOO.

UM, AND THEN LET'S SEE.

I SEE, UH, AND THEN A CLARIFICATION ALSO IN SECTION TWO, A, UM, JUST, UH, IDENTIFY THAT IS, UH, THE POLICY BOARD IS THE LEAD LEGAL AND GOVERNING ENTITY OF CAMPUS.

UM, AND THEN JUMPING ON DOWN TO SECTION THREE B UH, THE BYLAWS CURRENTLY SAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO, UM, HAVE SOMEBODY CARRY YOUR PROXY FOR THE MEETING

[00:35:01]

I'VE NEVER GOTTEN, I RARELY GET THE NOTIFICATION.

WHAT WE COMMONLY DO IS NO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

SO TO BRING THAT INTO PRACTICE, I THINK IF WE SIMPLY SAY THE CHAIRPERSON AND, OR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THERE, THAT WAY IT WOULD, AND TWO HOURS PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING, UM, THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW WHO'S GOT WHO'S PROXIES AND, AND WHATNOT.

UM, AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THIS MADE IT TO MY HERE, BUT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE ALSO DISCUSSED REMOVING THAT NEXT THING ON NON-VOTING PROXIES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE EVER USED THAT FUNCTION.

IT SEEMS TO BE A CARRY OVER IN THE BYLAWS.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO TAKE THAT OUT.

UM, AND THEN FOR PURPOSES OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP, I'M GOING TO SKIP WHAT I'VE WRITTEN ON 3D.

AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A MINUTE.

UM, THEN JUMPING ON DOWN TO THREE E UM, JUST A SIMPLE CLARIFICATION IN THERE.

I MEAN, I THINK IT KIND OF GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THE CHAIR PERSON CHAIR DOES NOT INCLUDE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT MEMBER MAY PETITION THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND A BY MAJORITY VOTE OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, MAY REQUIRE THEM TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF ASSUMED THERE, BUT THAT'S JUST A CLARIFICATION THING.

UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO, UH, THAT SECTION ALSO CAMPO, UM, HAS ALREADY BEEN OPERATING IN COMPLIANCE, I BELIEVE WITH THE NEW CHANGES, UH, LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UM, BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TAKING PUBLIC CITIZENS COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS, AS WELL AS INPUT ON AGENDA ITEMS. UM, BUT I'VE ASKED, I THINK WE NEED TO BRING THAT PARTICULAR SECTION AND THE BYLAWS UP TO SPEED WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRACTICING.

AND, UM, THEN WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON ATTENDANCE AND CURRENTLY THE BYLAWS SAY THAT IF YOU MISS MORE THAN HALF OF THE BOARD MEETINGS, BUT THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO INCLUDE ALSO THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, UM, OR MORE THAN HALF, THERE WAS ALSO SOME TALK ABOUT MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE 40%.

UM, BUT NOW THE GOAL IS TO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE POLICY BOARD THAT ARE ACTIVE AND THAT ARE ENGAGED, UM, ON EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO CHANGE IT TO CHAIR FIRST, VICE CHAIR, SECOND VICE CHAIR, TXDOT TEXTS, UH, POLICY BOARD MEMBERS FROM EACH COUNTY, AND ALSO INSERT CITY OF AUSTIN.

THAT WAS AN OMISSION ON MY PART, UM, CAP METRO AND OTHERS APPOINTED BY THE CHAIR, UM, AND THAT NO ENTITY WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CASE RIGHT NOW, UM, IF, UH, IF, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WERE NOT AN OFFICER, IS THE OFFICER, THERE WOULD NOT ALSO BE ANOTHER AUSTIN PERSON ON THERE.

UM, AND THEN BY, UH, SECTION FIVE C UM, THAT APPEAR TO BE REDUNDANT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DELETE THAT, UM, ON SECTION SIX ON OTHER COMMITTEES, JUST KINDA CLARIFY THAT THOSE ARE FOR A SPECIFIC TASK AND TIME SPECIFIC UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED, UM, AND SIX E UH, THAT THE TAC IS A STANDING COMMITTEE.

UM, AND THAT ON THAT SAME SUBSECTION SIX E THREE, THAT, UM, MAYBE AT THAT TO SAY THAT, UM, THE TAC WOULD WEIGH IN ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE UPW P EXCLUDING AMENDMENTS, THAT WOULD LINE UP WITH OUR PRACTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

AND THEN THE LAST SECTION IS I FELT LIKE THAT THIS ETHICS POLICY THAT APPLY TO THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD, UM, ONLY, AND NOT NECESSARILY CAMPUS, THAT NOT THAT STAFF SHOULDN'T HAVE ETHICAL PRINCIPLES TO FOLLOW, BUT TH THAT SHOULD BE IN AN EMPLOYEE MANUAL.

UM, AND AS THIS RELATES

[00:40:01]

OKAY.

SO I'LL GO BACK TO, UM, THE, THE SECTION I SKIPPED, BUT BEFORE I DO, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF, FOR A LOT OF YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME TO LOOK AT ALL THIS.

I WENT THROUGH THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WERE JUST MOSTLY CLARIFICATION AND CLEANUP KIND OF THINGS.

UM, DID ANYTHING POP UP IN TERMS OF THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS YOU HAD ON ANY OF THOSE INITIAL THINGS? I WENT OVER FOR SURE.

YEAH.

GO AHEAD AND SPEAK UP.

CAUSE MY VIEW, I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

MA'AM I'M SORRY.

I MIGHT HAVE TO GET OFF THIS CALL, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE STUFF I WENT THROUGH THIS LAST YEAR, UH, I WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN OF THE 3G, UH, GOING TO SOMEONE'S BOARD AND ASKING THEM TO BE REMOVED AFTER, INSTEAD OF A SHOWER, MAYBE A MAY I'LL THINK ON IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON HOW TO DO IT.

UM, BUT THE OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, DOES THAT COUNT PROXIES IF YOU SEND A PROXY? WELL, THAT THAT'S, UM, A GOOD QUESTION.

WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE BOARD? WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, UM, YOU COULD BE THERE, BUT NEVER SHOW UP AT A MEETING AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S, WHAT'S INTENDED EITHER.

IF YOU HAD A PROXY AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING, YOU WOULD BE COUNTED THERE BY PROXY.

UM, SO JUST WHAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH MAYOR.

SO I I'D WELCOME ANY INPUT THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

THAT WAS THE IDEA IS JUST TO ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION.

SO OUR, OUR CHARTER HAS THAT SAME DEAL.

IT'S THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, AND THEN BASICALLY THE COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE, UH, TO, TO NOT REMOVE YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M OKAY WITH THE THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, I THINK, CAUSE I THINK THAT WORKS ITSELF OUT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, AND OR 50%, BUT I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MAKE A RULE FOR EVERYTHING, BUT I WOULD'VE NEVER BEEN GONE FOR A YEAR.

I PROMISE YOU IF IT WASN'T NECESSARILY AND CHAIR, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT MAYBE, MAYBE WHAT, UM, UH, MAYBE THE THING TO DO IS PUT LANGUAGE ON HERE THAT IF THERE'S A PROXY, THEN THAT DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE EACH OF THEM, I MEAN, WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SITUATION.

UM, THERE ARE MORGAN JUST LAID OUT, UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME ENTITIES THAT, UM, OPERATE IN A WAY THAT THEIR PROXIES ARE REALLY PART OF, UH, PART OF THEIR MEMBERSHIP.

SO APPROXI STILL GIVES YOU THE SAME LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION.

SO I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT A WAY TO, UM, UH, ALLOW FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YEAH, AND AGAIN, MY GOAL TODAY WAS THAT THIS WAS THE DISCUSSION WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE BIGGER BOARD TO GET YOUR INPUT.

UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER, UH, FEAR HIM AND MAYOR KEYS.

IF YOU COULD MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.

I THINK WE'RE GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU.

YEAH, IT'S NOT ME.

OH, OKAY.

SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO DO, I WANT TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, HOW YOU GET ON THE AGENDA? UM, CAUSE THERE WERE, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS THAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD.

SO THE WAY THAT YOU PRESENTED IT WAS THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET IT ON THE AGENDA.

IF A MAJORITY OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DISAGREES WITH THE CHAIR, IF IT'S BEEN, IF THE CHAIR DOESN'T WANT TO PUT IT ON, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S NOT THAT YOU NEED A MAJORITY OF THE BOARD TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

IT WAS A EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

UM, WE THAT BACK AND FORTH AND, AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, HOW YOU DO THAT WITHOUT CREATING AN OPEN MEETINGS ISSUE TO GET AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND SO IT WAS REALLY JUST ADDING A CLARIFICATION BECAUSE BYLAWS CURRENTLY SAY THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE CAN TELL THE CHAIR TO PUT IT ON.

IF THE CHAIR HASN'T PREVIOUSLY AGREED TO PUT IT ON THAT WAY.

SO THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS CURRENT.

UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD TO INVOKE THAT.

THERE'S UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN AN ITEM THAT'S NOT BEEN PUT ON.

UM, BUT, UH,

[00:45:01]

I'LL JUST SAY THAT.

I WANT TO THINK THROUGH THAT BECAUSE I HAD SEEN, I THINK MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THAT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IN MY HEAD, UM, THE RIGHT ONE, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, A SUBSET OF THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY WANTED A BRIEFING ON SOMETHING OR SOME THING AT THE VERY MINIMUM, WHETHER THE CHAIR WANTED IT OR NOT.

I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CHAIR WOULD WANT IT.

I JUST, UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME, SOME ROOM FOR HAVING THOSE IS, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY NEED FOR IT.

I HAVEN'T OBSERVED THAT TO BE A PROBLEM, UM, TO DATE, BUT IT, IT IS SOMETHING I WOULDN'T WANT TO PRECLUDE.

YEAH.

I WAS TRYING NOT TO, UM, SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT DIDN'T EXIST.

IT WAS MORE FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SHIT, YOU RAISING THAT? CAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF, UM, JUST AS WE GET INTO THE OTHER SECTIONS, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO SOLVE.

UM, SO THAT MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE BYLAWS.

SO I APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT CLARIFICATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SURE.

MATT, I'M SURE THIS COMMISSIONER SHOULD.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, I, UH, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO REQUEST PARTLY CAUSE I'M HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTY FOLLOWING THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING AND WITHOUT A RED LINE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO FOLLOW EXACTLY WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE POLICY AND, UH, ALL OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

PLUS WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST AT LEAST THREE NEW, UH, TRANSPORTATION POLICY, BOARD MEMBERS SEATED IN JANUARY, REPLACING MAYOR ROSS, UH, JUDGE BISCO AND COMMISSIONER DOHERTY.

AND I JUST THINK, UH, BECAUSE I I'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE IN MEETINGS WHERE, UH, WHEN AN ITEM COMES UP FOR A VOTE AND THERE'S A DESIRE FOR MORE DISCUSSION FREQUENTLY, PEOPLE WILL SAY, LOOK, WE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE.

WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION.

I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW BOARD IS SEATED BEFORE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, WHAT COULD HAVE BIG IMPACTS ON THE MAKEUP OF THE GOVERNANCE OF THE BOARD.

SO BECAUSE IT'S, THERE'S NO RED LINE AND BECAUSE WE DON'T YET HAVE A, UH, A BOARD THAT WILL BE GOVERNING, UH, UH, ONCE THESE, UH, POLICIES TAKE PLACE, IF THEY ARE CHANGED AND ADOPTED, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO WAIT ON THIS DISCUSSION.

UH, COMMISSIONER, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THIS IS ONLY FOR DISCUSSION, IT'S NOT FOR ACTION.

AND, UM, UH, UH, IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS UNLESS WE POST IT AND HAVE IT AT A MEETING AND AT THE JANUARY MEETING, BECAUSE MY POINT IS WHEN ITEMS HAVE BEEN SPLIT FOR DISCUSSION ONE MEETING AND A VOTE AND A SUBSEQUENT MEETING PEOPLE DON'T REALLY LIKE IT WHEN WE SPEND MORE TIME DISCUSSING OVER AGAIN AT THE MEETING WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE.