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[CALL TO ORDER]

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SO WE CAN START RECORDING NOW IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY.

HELLO, THIS IS NEHEMIAH FITZ AND THIRD, THE CHAIR FOR THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOM CATIONS COMMISSION CALLING TO ORDER A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING HERE ON MAY.

THE 12TH, SIX 30 IS OUR AGREED UPON START TIME AND WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR QUORUM.

SO WE ARE NOW STARTING, I'LL BEGIN WITH A ROLL CALL.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ORDER OF DISTRICT THAT WAY.

IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO, TO KNOW WHEN THEY SHOULD JUMP IN BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR DISTRICT.

AS IT TURNS OUT, I WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER NATASHA FROM MADISON, FROM DISTRICT ONE.

AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SOPHIE GOT ROW ABSENCE AT THIS TIME FROM DISTRICT, UH, FROM THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT.

I'LL ASK FOR THE COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT TWO TO PLEASE ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES AND WE'LL COMPLETE.

OUR ATTENDANCE ROLL CALL MENTIONED APODACA IS PRESENT, UM, FROM DISTRICT TWO, UH, BY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, VANESSA POINTLESS, MALCOLM APPOINTED COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO RIO.

THANK YOU, DAVID ALEXANDER, THAT DISTRICT FOUR APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER, GREG.

THANK YOU, DAVE FLOYD, DISTRICT FIVE, UH, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND KITCHEN ALIAS DIVERSITY DISTRICT SIX, APPOINTED BY MACKENZIE KELLY, MAXINE ISLAND, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LIZ.

I PULLED DISTRICT SEVEN.

THANK YOU.

UM, OH, I'M SORRY.

NO, NO, I'M SORRY.

UM, I'M NICOLE THOMPSON AND I AM, I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHY TOVO FOR DISTRICT NINE.

THANK YOU.

APPOINTED BY ALISON ALKER COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT 10.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

AND WITH THAT, WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER WE'LL TRANSITION TO SYSTEM COMMUNICATION, UH, GENERAL AT THIS TIME, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, SO WE'LL TRANSITION

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – April 14, 2021]

TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL THE 14TH, 2021.

I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE WOULD HOLD THE VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 14, APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER ISLAND.

UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FLOYD THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, RIGHT BEFORE 10TH AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HANDS.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? IS THERE ANYONE ABSTAINING? UH, I, YES, I WILL ALSO UPSTATE, RIGHT.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

FIRSTLY, WERE YOU VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OR VOTING TO ABSTAIN? ABSTAIN? OKAY, SO WE HAVE TWO ABSTENTIONS AND WE HAVE NINE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.

SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED.

AND WITH THAT, WE TRANSITIONED TO NEW BUSINESS.

DO NOT A NUMBER TWO, UH, BEGINNING WITH

[2A. Council Committee Agenda Request for Council Vote Tablature]

AGENDA ITEM TWO, A THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST FOR COUNCIL VOTE TABLATURE FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

IF YOU'LL ALL LOOK INSIDE THE INVITATION FOR OUR QUORUM OR RATHER THE CONFIRMATION EMAIL FROM JARED, FROM JESSE STATING THAT WE ACHIEVED A QUORUM.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT MESSAGE INCLUDES ALL THE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS MEETING.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE SPECIFIC COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUESTS FOR COUNCIL, BOTH TABLATURE,

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UH, JUST TO CONFIRM EVERYONE CAN MAKE SURE, LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE DOCUMENT, PLEASE.

OKAY, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN JUST ONE MOMENT.

I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UH, EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF IT AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT.

UM, HELLO, TIRPITZ WE ARE ALSO DISPLAYING THIS ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN BEFORE ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL AS WELL AS FOR EVERYONE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME.

UH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF COURSE THAT EVERYONE HAS A VISIBILITY TO THIS.

UH, THAT'S ON OUR CALL TODAY.

SO ANYONE CAN NOT SEE THIS BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE SAY SO NOW.

HM DON'T HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I'VE SEEN IT.

SO I JUST HAVE TO FIND IT.

OKAY, WELL WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU TIME TO, TO PULL IT UP.

UH, WELL, WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

CAN YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN? OKAY, GREAT.

GREAT.

AS LONG AS YOU CAN SEE IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE IT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ISLAND.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER YATES.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? YEP.

JUST HAD TO UNMUTE HERE.

OKAY.

UM, ONE THING AT THE BOTTOM CALLED THE DOCUMENT, IF YOU SENSE, UM, THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AND THEN THOSE ITEMS I DON'T BELIEVE ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT.

DO THEY NEED TO BE IN CLEARLY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AS I LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT MYSELF.

AND SO ONE OTHER POINT, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE TYPO.

I THINK, UM, WHAT'S THE, THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO POPULARIZE A TABLE TABULAR DATA SET.

SO I THINK WAS JUST WORD TOO NEEDS TO BE INSERTED HERE IN THE BOTTOM.

SO JESSE, I SENT YOU, UM, THE, THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST FROM THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS, COUNCIL, COMMISSIONER GATES.

I HAVE RECEIVED THAT.

OKAY.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN MODIFY THIS ON THE FLY BEFORE WE APPROVE IT? I DON'T HAVE EDIT ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEING DISPLAYED, BUT I DO HAVE A COPY THAT IS EDITABLE UP ON MY PC.

SO IF, AS LONG AS Y'ALL CAN READ THE CHANGES INTO THE RECORD, I CAN MAKE THEM.

OKAY.

SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE DONE, UH, VERBALLY THEN? I, BECAUSE I GOT THE LIST HERE.

OKAY.

WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE DOING THE DISCUSSION POINT NOW.

SO, UH, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE AS A DISCUSSION POINT, I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRES ANY DISCUSSION TO ADD THE WORD TO, UH, BELOW, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE ITEMS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WHICH YOU FEEL AS THOUGH NEEDS TO ENRICH THIS DOCUMENT OR, UH, DOES THE REFERENCE, UH, TO NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS SUPPLIES? NO, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE DOCUMENT.

AND MAYBE IF JESSE COULD FORWARD THAT LIST TO EVERYONE NOW, JUST SO THEY'D HAVE THE DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT WELL, UH, THAT, THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE AS WELL.

ALTHOUGH WE ALREADY HAD A CHALLENGE WITH ACCESSING DOCUMENTS EARLIER.

UM, PERHAPS IF JESSIE COULD SHOW THOSE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN, THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY ALSO SPEAK TO IT.

I JUST EMAILED THE ITEMS TO THE COMMISSION.

UH, IT'LL TAKE ME A MINUTE TO GET THEM TO A PLACE WHERE IT CAN BE DISPLAYED BY THE AB TEAM SINCE IT LIVES IN MY EMAIL.

AND I'LL HAVE TO CONVERT TO A DOCUMENT AND THEN UPLOAD TO A SHARED DRIVE BEFORE I CAN DISPLAY WELL, THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY

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IF I CAN DISPLAY, UH, FROM MY SCREEN.

SURE THING.

IT'S COMING YOUR WAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'VE GOT IT HERE, SHERIFF IT'S I HAVE A COMMENT.

UH, YES, I'M READY.

UM, MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SORT OF WRAPPED ROUND OR ANKLES BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE A SOLUTION THAT WOULD GO BACK AND CREATE A TABLET AND RECORD ELECTRONIC RECORD OF ALL PAST VOTES IN DECISIONS WHERE, WHEREAS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS GOING FORWARD FROM THE DAY THE VOTE IS TAKEN AND IT IS STAFFED TO SUPPORT IT, THAT BE CAPTURE OF FUTURE VOTES AND RECORDS.

SO THERE IS ONE WHERE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EDITED SO THAT IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT PAST RECORDS, THAT WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT FUTURE RECORDS.

I AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT.

YES.

THAT SEEMS TO BE A FAIR, A FAIR SUGGESTION.

UH, I THINK THE SAME SIX TO SEVEN, WHEREAS IT FEEDS TO BE EDITED.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE SUGGESTION TO ME.

UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THAT IN THE NEGATIVE OR IS THAT PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD TO EVERYONE? CAUSE IT'D BE WHAT'S OUR INTENT TO, TO, TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WAY EFFORTS AT ANY TYPE OF MASSIVE DATA AGGREGATION EXERCISE, WOULDN'T SCUTTLEBUTT THIS, OR SLOW THIS DOWN WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN NOW HERE.

OKAY.

UM, TWO-PART PROCESS HERE.

SO WHERE WOULD WE INSERT THIS ADDITIONAL IF HE CAN BRING THAT? UH, I CAN POINT TO, YEAH, JESSE, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND AS TO LEAVE THAT.

AND THEN I'LL, UH, SINCE THAT DOCUMENT IS ACCESSIBLE FROM THE CITY AB AS I'M LOGGING ON FROM MY LAPTOP TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE OTHER DETAILED CHANGES FROM, FROM THE LIST THAT YOU EMAILED OUT.

SURE THING.

WELL, PULLING UP THE OTHER DOCUMENT BACK UP.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LOOKING AT, OKAY.

I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY SLIDE IT IN UNDER THE, AS PART OF THE THIRD SENTENCE.

UM, WELL LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC.

I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN I'D LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORD EDUCATED, UH, EDUCATION IMPLIES A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN INFOR AND THEN INFORMING, UH, I KNOW THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WAS EDUCATED AND ENGAGED, UM, BECAUSE DO AGREE THAT THAT'S ESSENTIAL FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT

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BE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, OF, UH, LARGE ASPIRATIONS FOR US TO TRY TO, TO, TO REACH FOR.

I THINK THAT WE'RE CLEARLY WORKING TO INFORM PEOPLE AND MAYBE THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT SO IMPORTANT TO CHANGE FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SWITCH, EDUCATE TO INFORM.

I AGREE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST CAM LANGUAGE THAT'S USED IN THESE TYPES OF DOCUMENTS, BUT, UM, I THINK THE WORD EDUCATED IS NOT EXTREMELY INCLUSIVE AND, UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH YOU ON MAYBE USING ANOTHER, UM, ADJECTIVE TOO.

RIGHT.

LET, LET, LET ME THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND LET ME ALSO BE CLEAR, UH, TO THANK COMMISSIONER YATES FOR, UH, HIS WORK.

I'M NOT SURE IF HE PERSONALLY, UH, CHOSE THE, THE WORDING OF THE LANGUAGE HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT HE PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN CONSTRUCTING THIS REQUEST.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US ARE COPYWRITERS.

I KNOW THAT.

AND SO, UH, THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS TO, TO SHOW A STURDY FOR WORD CHOICE, BUT JUST HOPEFULLY TO, UH, DABBLED IN, IN TERMS OF OUR INTENT FOR THE DOCUMENT, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM MR. YATES, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT KIND OF CHANGE AND CHANGING FROM THE WORD EDUCATED TO INFORMED.

I AGREE WITH THAT, I PRETTY MUCH TOOK THE VERBIAGE FROM THE ORIGINAL OFFICER WHO COUNCIL RESOLUTION, AND I BELIEVE THAT THEIR INTENT WAS NOT EDUCATED, BUT TO BE INFORMED.

SO I THINK THIS IS A BETTER CHOICE OF WORDS.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, DOES THAT, THAT MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

UH, SO I, I I'VE RAISED THAT FIRST BECAUSE WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THEN, UH, FOCUSING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INFORM PEOPLE ON.

UH, RIGHT.

SO THEN IF WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT CHANGING, UH, EDUCATED TO INFORMED, THEN I THINK THE NEXT SENTENCE MIGHT BE A LOGICAL PLACE, UM, OR AFTER THE NEXT SENTENCE, BECAUSE THE NEXT SENTENCE READS THE VOTING RECORD AND LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF A GOVERNMENT BODY IS FOUNDATIONAL AND ESSENTIAL ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FOR EDUCATED AND ENGAGED, UH, COMMUNITY.

UH, SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW TO SWITCH EDUCATED.

WE COULD PERHAPS ADD RIGHT AFTER THAT.

UM, UH, AND THAT NEXT SENTENCE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BOTH THE MEANS AND THE STATE OF INTENT TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND COULD DO SO BY BEGINNING TO TRACK CITY COUNCIL VOTES GOING FORWARD.

BUT MAYBE THAT'S ONE WAY, UM, UM, CHAMPIONS.

YES, IF YOU WANT TO MEET THE CHANGE, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU SAY NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL, TO PLACE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA TO DISCUSS WHICH OPTION, OKAY.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR AUSTIN TO RECORD ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS? I CONCUR THAT'S A SIMPLE WAY, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY EVEN SPEAK TO THAT, UH, IN THE WHEREAS DESCRIPTIONS.

UH, SO IT'S AT FIRST REQUESTS JUST I THINK LIKE COMMISSIONER GATES IS AN IT CONSULTANT TO BE CLEAR THE FIRST SENTENCE AFTER NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TOKEN CATIONS COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL TO PLACE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA TO DISCUSS.

SO REMIND ME AGAIN, WHERE EXACTLY.

SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THE IMPLEMENTATION DETAILS.

SO LET'S SAY WE LEAVE, DISCUSS WHICH OPTION IN THE CITY CLERKS AVERAGE REPORT OF MADE, ET CETERA, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR AUSTIN TO RECORD AND PRESENT ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS IN A TABULAR MANNER.

NEXT SOUNDS GOOD.

SO AFTER AUSTIN,

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YOU HAD TO RECORD AND PRESENT ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS IN A TABULAR MANNER.

OKAY.

SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU NECESSITATE US EDITING THE LAST SENTENCE TO REFLECT THAT SAME TIMESTAMP OF FUTURE.

YEP.

RIGHT? YES.

ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO JUST REFER TO FUNCTION ACTION IN THAT SENTENCE WHERE YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE PROJECT, YOU COULD SAY THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PUBLISH A TABULAR DATA SET, UH, YOU KNOW, OF FUTURE CITY ACTION, A FUTURE CITY ACTION, AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FUTURE VOTING RECORDS.

SO YOU COULD JUST MODIFY THAT SENTENCE RATHER THAN MAKING ANY REFERENCE OR CHANGING ANY OF THE OTHER DOCUMENT THAT MIGHT BE EVEN EASIER.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

I MAKE IT IN BOTH PLACES, THIS BABY VERY CLEAR.

WELL, UH, I, I DEFINITELY LET'S SEE HERE, UH, LESS IS MORE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE IMPORTANCE FOR DELIVERY, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR US BEING DELIBERATE, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT USING INTENTIONAL LANGUAGE, UM, SO I GUESS SOME OF THE QUESTION TO ASK OURSELVES, DO WE TRULY SACRIFICE CLARITY BY ONLY PUTTING IT IN ONE PLACE? THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION? I THINK WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PAST BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS WILL BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MONUMENTAL TASK.

WE'VE GOT TO EMPHASIZE THE FUTURE.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT A VERY GOOD POINT THERE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON BEAVERS BREAD, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS HAS BEEN UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR SO LONG, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR SENTENCE, AND THIS ARE IN THIS CAUSE DOWN HERE WHERE YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THE REST OF THE TH TH THE FIRST PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT STARTS FROM THE NOW, IT'S JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE INTENT OF, OF OUR, OUR, THE, THE, THE PARTS OF THE PROJECT, BUT THIS SENTENCE WHERE YOU'RE SPEAKING THIS PROJECT, REALLY, TO ME, THE, THE MEAT OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT.

AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO BE CONCISE, BUT ALSO TO BE SPECIFIC, TO USE VERY INTENTIONAL LANGUAGE IN THAT SENTENCE, I THINK IT WOULD SUFFICE RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I I'M, I'M THE OTHER ONE WHO BELIEVES THAT LESS IS MORE SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE TO, I DON'T THINK THAT IT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, ADDS MORE STRENGTH TO THE ARGUMENT TO PUT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES.

I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY CLEAR AND INTENTIONAL.

AND SO IF YOU MADE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION RIGHT THERE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CLEAR, I THINK IT WAS DEVICE.

WELL MEAN, THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT OPINION.

UH, BUT THEN THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY, UH, IS, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PINS ON THIS, FOR YOUR PENS ON THIS.

I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING AND I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BODY FOR THEIR FEEDBACK, BECAUSE AS I'M READING ALONG, UM, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, ABOUT BREVITY, UH, THE FIRST SENTENCE IS SPECIFICALLY, UH, REALLY IN RELATION TO THE ACT OF REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL TO PLACE AN ITEM OF ON FULFILL THAT AGENDA ITEM ONLY APPROPRIATE COUNTS COMMITTEE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THAT KIND OF STAND ON THE SONG.

I CAN SEE THE MERIT FOR THAT NEEDING TO STAND ON THE SONG, BECAUSE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE NATURE OF THE REQUESTS, NOT THE CONTENT OF THE REQUEST.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE, FURTHER REQUESTS, THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS AND FYI 2021 22, A BUDGET TO PURCHASE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR THIS SYSTEM.

SO THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WHAT, UH, SO WHEREAS READING ALONG, UM, IF THAT, IF THAT DIDN'T REFER TO, UH, ALREADY A SOLUTION, UH, THEN I THINK THAT COULDN'T BE THERE WOULDN'T BE AS MUCH

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ROOM FOR CONFUSION, BUT THEN, THEN YOU CONTINUE AND FURTHER REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FARMS IN ALL FUTURE BUDGETS FOR MISSIONALLY FTE, A POSITION TO ADMINISTER THIS SYSTEM ONCE AGAIN, REFERRING TO THE SYSTEM.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, FURTHER REQUEST CITY COUNCIL, DIRECT CITY MANAGER, AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO MANAGE THIS PROJECT.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE SYSTEM SYSTEMS, THE PROJECT, AND THEN WHAT THE PROJECT IS, UH, THEN THE SUGGESTION IS OBVIOUSLY TO SPECIFY, UH, TERM, UH, OR AT LEAST START DATE BEING FUTURE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FIND POSTS FOR FUTURE, UH, DATA COLLECTION AT THAT POINT, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MENTION, WHEREAS BEFORE READING OUT LOUD, I DIDN'T SEE SO MANY REFERENCES TO THE PROJECT AND THE SYSTEM, THEY KIND OF, THEY REALLY JUMPED OUT, UH, NOW.

UM, AND, UH, HAVING SAID THAT I'M STILL KIND OF ON THE FENCE.

I REALLY LIKE TO GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO WIN BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW JUST PURELY ADDING AT THE PROJECT LINE OF LAST LINE.

THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO, AS WE ALREADY AGREED UPON PUBLISH, PUBLISH, UH, A FUTURE, UH, PUB TAB, TABLET, DATA SET USEFUL IN QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF CITY, A FUTURE CITY ACTION, AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTING RECORDS.

I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY EXPLICIT, UM, AS FAR AS THE PROJECT.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I LIKE TO GET SOME OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS.

CAN I GET A CHANCE FOR, UH, GIVE IT A CHANCE FOR, UH, I DON'T WANT TO CALL ON ANYONE, BUT THE COMMISSIONER THAT HASN'T SPOKEN ON THIS YET TO SPEAK UP ABOUT IT, CHERISH PITS IS COMMISSIONER UP A DACA.

UM, I THINK YOU, YOU MAKE SOME MONEY, SOME GOOD POINTS.

UM, I WANT TO PERHAPS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF A HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.

PERHAPS WE USE A BLANKET TERM RESOURCES, UM, AND FOR SYSTEM PERHAPS REPLACE THOSE WITH EFFORT.

SO THAT SECOND LINE THERE WITH SAY, UH, PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE AND INCLUDING THE FUTURE FOCUSED LANGUAGE ON, UH, IN BOTH AREAS, MOSTLY DISCUSSED.

THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, UM, BECAUSE HEARING THAT MAKES ME THINK THERE'S ENOUGH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO EVEN GET RID OF A SENTENCE, IF WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PERHAPS SAY AND FURTHER REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN ALL FUTURE BUDGETS FOR, EXCUSE ME, AS YOU SAID, UH, UH, FUNDS AND THE FYI 2021 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND ADDITIONAL FTE AND ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER THE SYSTEM WE COULD, IF WE WANT, UNLESS WE JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IT HABITS WOULD BE A PHONE CALL OUT.

UH, THAT'S ONE THOUGHT, BUT, UH, ENOUGH OF MY THOUGHTS, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER DACA, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS REMAINING ON THE CALL.

AND YOU WENT UP FROM LAND ON THIS, THAT HASN'T YET.

I DO LIKE THE CONCEPT OF COMBINING THE TWO SENTENCES TOGETHER.

UM, YEAH, I THINK COMBINING THOSE TWO SENTENCES TOGETHER, STREAMLINES IT, UM, IN, AND IN AVOIDS ANY KIND OF CONFUSION.

I DO THINK WE DO NEED TO MOVE UP OR MAKE SOME TYPE OF REFERENCE TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS EARLIER ON, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO REFERENCE, UM, IN THAT KIND OF FLOW OF THE SENTENCES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER IRELAND, UM, UH, FOR THAT ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT COMMISSIONER? FLOYD COMMISSIONER, UH, ALEXANDER YEAH.

I'LL, I'LL TRY TO, YEAH.

UM, I WOULD I ACTUALLY, YEAH, I LIKE THAT LAST IDEA WHERE PUTTING MAYBE YOUR FIRST, WHEREAS, WHEREAS A, UM, LET'S SEE.

YEAH.

AN OPEN, JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, VOTING RECORDS IS IMPORTANT FOR TOURISM ACCESS AND A REVIEW, SOMETHING I AGREE, LIKE SET IT UP UPFRONT WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THEN THAT WAY, THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE WHEREAS AND INTO THE LANGUAGE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO MOVE IT UP.

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YEAH.

I AGREE.

SEND, EVEN IF WE, UH, FRONT LOAD THAT INFORMATION, AS FAR AS WHAT THE GOAL IS, WE COULD INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WAY THAT CAN ALL BE COMBINED.

SO THAT WAY THE SCOPE IS ALSO UNDERSTOOD AT THE BEGINNING.

SO IF WE JUST TOOK THE LAST, WHEREAS, AND PUT IT TO THE FRONT, THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT RIGHT THERE.

THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SYNOPSIS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I LIKE THAT.

I LIKE THAT.

I THINK THAT THAT DOES SET THE STAGE.

AND THEN, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT OUR AGENDA ITEM REQUEST IS, IS ON BEING THE FUTURE, MAYBE HOW ABOUT THE NEXT LINE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE, UH, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT FUTURE VOTING ACTIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO, UH, TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF ALL FUTURE CITY ACTION AND OUR, YOU KNOW, ALL FUTURE FUTURE CITY ACTION BORROWING FROM THEIR LAST, LAST SENTENCE IN, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT.

UM, WHEREAS WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO RECORD ALL FUTURE CITY ACTION AND ELECTED OFFICIAL VOTING RECORDS.

AND THEN WE GO TO, WHEREAS AN INFORMED AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL.

UM, I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT SOUND? BECAUSE THEN WE, WE, WE SHIPPED IT, WE SET THE STAGE BY REMINDING THEM WHAT THEY ALREADY DID.

WE WE'VE BEEN STAYED ON THAT INTENT, WHICH IS TO PURELY HAVE FUTURE VOTING RECORDED.

AND THEN WE SLIDE INTO THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE AS IT, EXCEPT WE SWITCH OUT INFORMED FOR EDUCATED.

WE ADDED TWO DOWN BELOW, AND THEN WE COMBINE UNDER THE, NOW THERE ARE FOUR SECTION WE COMBINE THE SECOND AND THIRD SENTENCE TO SAY, AS COMMISSIONER APODACA SUGGESTED AFTER, UH, FYI 20, 21, 2022 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL AND ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER THIS EFFORT OR TO, TO ADMINISTER OR FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR ADMINISTRATION.

UH, AND THEN WE GO TO THE LAST SENTENCE AND WE ADD THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PUBLISH A FUTURE TABULAR DATA SET, USEFUL, AND QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF FUTURE CITY ACTION.

SO ON AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

I THINK THAT COVERED EVERY CHANGE THAT WE'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED AS A GROUP, BUT I DO WANT TO CHECK IN JUST TO MAKE SURE HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, AT THOMPSON BEAVERS.

HA HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ACHIEVING BREVITY BY COMBINING, BUT WE'RE ALSO ADDING, UH, SOME CLARITY IN THE WEST SECTION.

I THINK THAT SOUNDED HELPFUL.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? OH, THAT'S REALLY GOOD DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, COMBINING ALL OF THAT AND, UM, AND REFERENCING TO THE EFFORT AND, UM, JUST THE ALLOCATION OF THE BUDGET.

I MEAN, YOU COULD EVEN SAY ALLOCATION OF A BUDGET IN, UH, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, HARDWARE, SOFTWARE AND, UM, FTES TO ADMINISTER THE PROJECT OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, ALL THAT COULD BE EVEN ADDED INTO ONE SENTENCE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I, ME, THE SUGGESTION, THE SUGGESTION TO SAY RESOURCES AND NOT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE, I DIDN'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER APODACA.

UH, WAS THAT JUST FOR BREVITY OR WERE YOU WANTING TO GET OUT OF THE WEEDS OF SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE? UH, WHAT, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS COMMISSIONED OFF THE DOCTOR? UM, MORE OF THE SECOND IS GETTING OUT OF THE WEEDS AND NOT NECESSARILY DICTATING A SOLUTION.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

UH,

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AND THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HAND BEING RAISED BY COMMISSIONER.

UH DASGUPTA YEAH.

IN FACT, I AGREE WITH THIS CHANGE, YOU GO ANYWHERE FROM HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, IT COULD BE, IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE PRINTING FOR INSTANCE.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTION IS THE BETTER WORD OR I BELIEVE HIS SUGGESTION WAS RESOURCES I'M IN GREECE.

I'M MEAN I'M ANDREW SMITH.

SORRY.

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM.

OKAY.

SO W WITH THAT EXTRA INSIGHT FROM COMMISSIONER APODACA, DOES RESOURCES SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE WITH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE.

I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY, UH, AS I IMAGINED WHAT HE WAS GOING FOR, I COULD SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, JUST EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT TRAINING AS COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA MENTIONED, UM, YOU'RE WERE BASICALLY KIND OF GIVING A WORD THAT COVERS THOSE THREE THINGS.

UH, I KNOW THAT SINCE WE'RE VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT HOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON FUTURE, UH, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO, UH, TO INCLUDE SOME DETAIL HERE ABOUT, UH, WHICH I CAN SHARE FROM MY SCREEN NOW ABOUT, UH, EXACTLY WHAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS, INCLUDE THIS PIECE, BUT, UM, THERE'S A COMPONENT WHICH DETAILS, UH, THE DATA POINTS THAT WOULD THEN ALSO MAKE IT MORE CRYSTALLIZED THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, UH, FOR A HUGE TO-DO.

AND IT WOULD ALSO PICK THE GUARD THAT'S AGAINST, UH, SOMEONE IMAGINING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE SOME KIND OF SIX-FIGURE SOFTWARE PROJECT FOR THIS.

UM, AND THEN TO PURSUE THAT WHEN THAT'S CLEARLY NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UM, BUT LET ME ADD THIS TO THE SCREEN HERE AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL THINK.

UM, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT JESSE SENT EARLIER, BUT THIS, WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

SO SHARE, UH, EXCUSE ME.

DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN NOW? UH, YES.

HOLD ON.

I SHOULDN'T BE GIVING IT TO THE LAPTOP, RIGHT? NOT AT THE MOMENT, CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

OKAY.

SHOULD WE GET, OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COMING UP SLOWLY, BUT SURELY AS WE PULL THIS UP, UH, JESSE, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING, UH, JUST KIND OF CONFIRMING, UH, YOUR, HOW YOU'RE TRACKING AND ALL THOSE, THOSE CHANGES THAT WE WERE TALKING THROUGH, PRIMARILY I'M TR I'LL BE LOOKING AT BACK AT THE VIDEO TO CAPTURE THIS.

I'M ATTEMPTING TO HAVE A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME.

UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES, BUT I CAN'T ALWAYS TYPE AS QUICKLY AS CHANGES ARE COMING THROUGH.

I CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT.

OKAY, WELL, THIS IS GETTING TO THE POINT OF BEING, UH, OKAY.

I BETTER OFF JUST READING IT TO YOU,

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LOOKING THROUGH THESE, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE.

AND NOW OF COURSE, AS SOON AS THEY GET READY TO READ THEM, IF THEY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN, OF COURSE, MURPHY'S LAW.

UH, SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE AS A, IS NOT THE IDEAL PRESENTATION, UH, METHODOLOGY, HOWEVER, UH, FOR PURPOSES WILL SUFFICE.

THIS DATASET WILL CONTAIN MEETING DATE, ITEM, DESCRIPTION, MEMBER, NAME, MEMBER, DISTRICT, BOTH CAST REASON FOR ABSTENTION AND CASE OF CONFLICT, UH, PRESENT DURING BOAT, UH, REASON AFTER, DURING VOTE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS, UH, DATASET WILL DEPENDENT UPDATES TO THE TWO HOURS.

SO THE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM WITH THE COMMISSIONER GATES, IF I CAN, UH, THIS IS INFORMATION THAT'S ALREADY BEING GATHERED, I ASSUME, WITH EVERY COUNCIL BOAT THAT'S SUBMITTED WITH EVERY COUNCIL VOTE, BUT I, THE NUMBERS ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, THE REASON FOR, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT IS RECORDED NOW WAS BASICALLY THE SUMMARY OF THE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR ONE, NOTHING ELSE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU, YOU PICK UP ON YOUR OWN.

OKAY.

WELL, I, I DID, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONFIRM, UH, AS A GROUP, WHAT WE WANT THIS TO INCLUDE.

UM, BUT I KNOW THAT AS I THINK IT THROUGH, UH, LOGISTICALLY THE LESS, THE LESS, UH, YOU KNOW, MANUAL DATA COLLECTION THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, I THINK FROM, UH, FROM THE, THE RESOURCES INVOLVED THE BETTER, BUT, UM, PERHAPS THERE'S SOME VALUE IN NOT, AND NOT SPECIFYING, UM, BEYOND JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE PURELY COLLECTIBLE BY DATA.

UH, YOU KNOW, BY SCRUBBING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IN THIS EFFORT OR WHAT WE DESCRIBED AS IN OUR REQUEST, A SPECIFIC LIST OF DATA POINTS THAT WE WANT THEM TO CAPTURE OR NOT.

WELL, I KNOW THAT DURING COUNCIL VOTES, THEY SAY THERE WAS SIX, FOUR, AND THREE AGAINST WITH THIS OFF THE DIE.

THAT'S ALL THAT HE'S SAYING.

OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IN THE INTEREST OF, OF TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GET INTO OUR PLANNING, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AGREE UPON, UM, UH, THE BASICS OF, WE WANT TO INCLUDE HERE, UH, AND, AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WANT THE TABULATIONS TO AT LEAST INCLUDE THESE THINGS.

AND HOW DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? IS THERE SOMEONE THAT HAD A COMMENTARY? YEAH, IT WAS JUST, THIS IS, UM, MAXI.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, WE COULD PUT A MINIMUM, LIKE AT MINIMUM HAVE MEETING DATE, YOU KNOW, MEMBER, DISTRICT CAST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

SO MEETING DATE, IT SEEMS LIKE, OKAY, LET'S KIND OF GO DOWN THE LIST HERE, THEN, UH, MEETING THE ITEM DESCRIPTION.

THAT SEEMS PRETTY IMPORTANT.

NUMBER, NAME, NUMBER, DISTRICT, THAT'S ALL VERY, UH, TABULAR, LOW CASTE TABULARY REASON FOR ABSTENTION AND CONFLICT THAT COMES, UH, OBVIOUSLY NON TABULAR PRESENT FOR THE VOTE.

THAT'S TABULAR REASON, ABSENCE FOR A VOTE NON TABULAR.

SO BASICALLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO THINGS

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THAT, THAT ARE NOT TABULAR.

UM, SO IF WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THIS LIST BEING SUFFICIENT, EXCEPT FOR REASON BEFORE EXTENSION IN CASE OF CONFLICT, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE, UH, WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THE BOAT ITSELF WOULD INCLUDE EXTENSION, UH, RIFLE THAT WILL BE TALLIED AS FAR AS THE BOAT.

SO IT'LL BE FOUR AGAINST AN ABSTENTION.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING REASONS FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE, RIGHT? BOTH OF THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION WOULD REQUIRE MORE SEARCHING, PROBABLY, PROBABLY KIND OF ARBITRARY AND NOT VERY OBJECTIVE EVEN.

SO, UH, PERHAPS WE CAN, IN THE INTEREST OF ACTUALLY GETTING THIS PASSED, WE CAN TAKE THOSE OUT.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY SINCE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST COMPLICATES THE DATA COLLECTION EFFORT.

UM, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE DO WE PUT THEM? UM, OKAY.

SO LET ME JUST ESTABLISH CONSENSUS BEFORE CHANGED THE SCREEN AND GIVE AB BACK TO THE CITY.

UH, ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS LIST OF ITEMS TO INCLUDE IS SUFFICIENT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THOSE TWO REASONS FOR ABSTENTION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE? UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE ANYONE A CHANCE TO MIX WITH, JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK UP, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT STRONG FEELINGS AGAINST THAT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION HAD BEEN MADE TO, UH, USE THE TERMS INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION MINIMAL.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

UH, I THINK, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT.

THE, THE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THOUGH, IS TO MAKE SURE I LIST, UH, IS, IS, UH, LIKE YOU JUST SUGGESTED IF WE REMOVE THE TWO ITEMS FROM THE LIST, THEN EVERYTHING ELSE.

RIGHT.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING TO GET CONFIRMATION THAT THIS LIST AT A MINIMUM IS GOOD WITH EVERYONE.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ISLAND.

UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER MOTION, UH, THE VIOLENCE MOTION.

UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FLIP AT A MINIMUM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REASON FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE COMMISSIONER ISLAND? YES.

OKAY.

WELL, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.

UM, AND THEN BASED ON THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF INCLUDING OF AGREEING TO THE MOTION HERE THAT WE INCLUDE THIS LIFT ABSENT REASON FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE.

UH, PLEASE SAY, AYE, OR ENTER YOUR HAND.

AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED ANYONE ABSTAINING? OKAY.

SO WE ALL AGREE.

SO WITH THAT, THEN I LIKE TO GET 80 BACK TO THE CITY AND, UH, TO WHAT WE HAD UP AS THE DOCUMENT COMING UP FOR WINTER.

REALLY.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND JESSE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE NOTE OF THE TIME NOW, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR TIME STAMP FOR US ALL AGREEING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS DOCUMENT.

SO BASED ON, WELL, NOW WE JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM, UH, WHERE WE GOING TO PUT, INJECT THAT LIST OF MINIMAL, UH, DATA REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.

THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO IT EARLIER, UH, THAT SOMEONE NOTICED, WELL, RIGHT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, SAYS THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, AND THEN WE JUST PUT IT THERE.

BOOM.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, GRANTED, YOU SAY WHERE TO PUT IT.

SO COMMISSIONER YATES IDENTIFIED THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE DOCUMENT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PHRASING TO INCLUDE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT AFTER THE LAST SENTENCE, THE DATASET WILL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

I SEE.

YEAH, I'VE GOT IT.

I GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH, UH, AS I HAVE, UH, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A CONSENSUS HERE ON THE CALL FOR WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE POINT HERE? AND THAT IS THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE AT A MINIMUM, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION.

THAT'S A GREAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT WAS INDEED THE SPIRIT OF A COMMISSIONER ISLANDS MOTION OF THAT.

I SECONDED.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO LACK OF, IT'S GOING TO READ

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LIKE THIS, WHEREAS AN INFORMED THEY'LL SEE ME, WHEREAS CITY COUNCIL PASSED ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2019 IN RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO RESEARCH BEST PRACTICES FOR ELECTRONIC VOTE, RECORDING AND REPORT THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION IN MAY OF 2019, WHEREAS AND INFORMED.

NO, IT WAS WHEREAS THE COLLECTION OF FUTURE CITY ACTION.

NO, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.

I FORGOT WHERE IT IS.

THE INTENT OF THE, OF THIS COMMISSION TO US TO, UH, TO SUPPORT THE COLLECTION OF FUTURE.

UH, WE'VE SENT IT EARLIER TOO, DIDN'T WE, UH, WHERE, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO COVERT FUTURE OF COUNCIL ACTIONS.

WOULD IT HELP FOR ME TO READ WHAT I HAVE? IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT THANK YOU.

WHAT I HAVE AS, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF ALL PICTURES, CITY ACTIONS.

YES.

THAT'S THAT WAS THE, THE NET SUBMIT.

SO WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO HELP INFORM, UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY OF ALL C ACTION AND OUR ELECTION ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTING RECORDS.

OH YES.

IS IT REALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMISSION OR IS IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL? SO SHOULDN'T WE SAY THAT IT IS INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INFORM ALL WELL, LET'S BE MORE SPECIFIC WHAT WE'RE WE'RE I THINK WE SHOULD SAY, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO HELP, BECAUSE WE WERE LITERALLY ADVISORS OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, LIKE, SO OUR INTENT IS TO HELP THEM BY BYPASSING, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE SAY WORRIED IS OUR INTENT TO HELP IT BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO, IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO I GUESS I ABOUT THAT, WHERE IT HAS THE INTENT TO IT BY CITY COUNCIL IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

YEAH.

I LIKED THAT.

I LIKED THE LOT, UH, WHERE IT IS THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

THEN WE GO TO, WHEREAS AN INFORMED AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL TO THE HEALTH OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND IT READS VERBATIM UNTIL WE GET TO THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, MOVED TO THE, AND THEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THE NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELLS THEM CASES, COMMISSION REQUESTED COUNSEL TO PLACE THEM IN THE ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA VERBATIM UNTIL THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.

AND THEN WE ARE EDITING AND FURTHER REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS AND FYI 2021, 2022 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND FOR AN ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER.

THEN IT TRANSITIONS VERBATIM.

IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH, THE PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF BOSTON TO PUBLISH A TABLET DATA SET OF USEFUL SET USEFUL EIGHT TO ME, THE PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF BOSTON TO PUBLISH A FUTURE TABULAR DATASET USEFUL IN THE QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF FUTURE CITY ACTION AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FUTURE VOTING RECORDS TO THE CITY'S OPEN DATA PORTAL.

THIS DATA SET WILL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AT A MINIMUM COLON.

AND THEN WE DUMP IN THAT LIST,

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WHICH IS VERBATIM, JUST LIKE WE'VE MOVED AND VOTED ON TO INCLUDE MEETING DATE, ITEM, DESCRIPTION, MEMBER, NAME, MEMBER, DISTRICT, VOTE, CAST ATTENDANCE.

AND THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE OF WHAT HAS JUST BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, THE MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT IT'S BEEN READ TO THE RECORD AND STEPPED BY COMMISSIONER GATES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.

DASGUPTA ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING.

WHAT HAS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? IS THERE ANYONE ABSTAINING? AYE.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A VOTE OF NINE AND THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ONE ABSTENTION.

OKAY.

SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM, EXCUSE ME.

IT TAKES CARE OF THAT ITEM IN OUR AGENDA THAT WE GO TO

[2B. ATXN Staffing Support]

ITEM TO BE ATX IN STAFFING SUPPORT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

UH, THIS WILL BE A BRIEF ITEM.

UH, I HADN'T ADDED TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS SOME OUTREACH, UH, BY REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM.

AND, UH, AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, IT WAS AGREED THAT OUR INITIAL, UH, LANGUAGE WAS SUFFICIENT.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR FUTURE ACTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MENTION THAT, UH, SINCE WE HAD IT ADDED IN CASE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS IT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.

WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED IN OUR AGENDA TO THE NITTY-GRITTY OUR AGENDA ITEM

[2C. Commission Work Plan Retreat – Setting Commission Priorities for the Next Year]

TWO C THE COMMISSION WORK PLAN RETREAT, SETTING OUR COMMISSION PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

UH, JESSE, UH, I'VE GOT THOUGHTS, UH, JUST TO KIND OF FRAME THE DISCUSSION.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FIRST OR IF I BETTER TELL THEM FIVE, MY THOUGHTS THE NOW INITIALLY BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, WELL, I CAN OFFER A VERY QUICK SYNOPSIS OF KIND OF WHAT WENT INTO GETTING US TO THIS POINT AND THEN SEE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FROM THERE.

UM, SURE.

UH, SO I REQUESTED ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEND ME THEIR, UH, TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMISSION TO TACKLE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

I TOOK THAT LIST AND TRIED TO COMBINE LIKE IDEAS FROM DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS.

AND THAT RESULTED IN THE LIST THAT IS, THAT WAS SHARED, UH, AS A GOOGLE DOCUMENT TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONSOLIDATION AND I ALSO HAD TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON UNDER WHICH A WORKING GROUP TO PLACE SOME OF THE ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT Y'ALL TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THE ITEMS WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY ARE PLACED ARE APPROPRIATELY PLACED.

AND ALSO IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT AREN'T REPRESENTED IN THIS LIST THAT, UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE DURING THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSION, MY SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO GO THROUGH, UH, THIS SESSION IS TO FOCUS ON ONE WORKING GROUPS, ITEMS AT A TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UH, GO THROUGH EACH LIST AND, UH, IF WE NEED TO PUMP AN ITEM TO A DIFFERENT WORKING GROUP OR TO THE OVERALL COMMISSION, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

UM, AND JUST TAKE THESE WORKING GROUPS ONE BY ONE.

AND THEN, UH, AT THE, UH, ONCE WE'RE THROUGH WITH ALL OF THE EXISTING WORKING GROUPS, WE CAN GO TO THE LEVEL TO DISCUSS, UH, ANY ITEMS THAT DON'T FIT WITHIN A SINGLE WORKING GROUPS PER VIEW.

AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL WORKING GROUPS, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

UM, SO THAT IS, THAT IS MY SUGGESTION FOR HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS, BUT I AM CERTAINLY, UH, WILLING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH WHAT THE COMMISSION'S WISHES ARE.

UH, AS A TECHNICAL NOTE, UH, I'LL HAVE OUR CITY, A V TECH, UH, DISPLAYING WHERE WE ARE IN THE GOOGLE DOCUMENT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

I'M ALSO IN THE WORKING DOCUMENT TO MAKE EDITS AS WE GO.

UM, THERE MIGHT BE A, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW SIGNIFICANT THE DELAY

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IS GOING TO BE FROM MY EDITS TO MAKE IT TO THE DISPLAYED VERSION.

UM, BUT I WILL BE TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS AS WE GO.

CERTAINLY IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ACTIVELY EDIT THE DOCUMENT AS WELL, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU ALL TO DO THAT, UH, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS MEETING.

SO ONCE THE MEETING CLOSES, I'M LIKELY GOING TO CHANGE THE PERMISSIONS BACK TO NOT EDIT BECAUSE, UH, IT WOULD BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS POTENTIALLY OVER QUORUM OPERATING IN A SINGLE DOCUMENT.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IF WE EXTENDED THE EDITS PAST THE MEETING TIME.

SO THAT'S, UH, MY INTRODUCTION THERE, HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS.

UM, AND I'LL, UH, SEE IF TIRPITZ WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM HERE.

OH, AS A FINAL NOTE, UH, UH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR CHAIR PADS.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE STILL MUTED, BUT, UH, I, I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THE, EACH ITEM HAS THE COMMISSIONER'S NAME IN FRONT OF IT, WHO PROPOSED IT.

UM, SOME OF THESE, UH, THAT CAME FROM COMMISSIONER JUST GROUP TO ARE ON THE, UH, THE CURRENT COMMISSION WORK PLAN.

UM, UH, JUST AS A NOTE, BUT IN THE FINAL DOCUMENT, THOSE, UH, THOSE NAME REFERENCES ARE JUST GOING TO GO AWAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EACH OF THESE ITEMS IS CREDITED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION.

I SEE.

SO I WAS, UH, MUTED BY AB APPARENTLY I DIDN'T MUTE MYSELF.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.

PETS.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, UH, EARLIER, UH, I WAS TRYING TO INTERJECT, UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR CARING FOR, FOR CLARIFYING EVERYTHING.

FIRST OF ALL, I TRYING TO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, JESSE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THOROUGH.

I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF ONE THING, UH, AS I, UH, WELL, FIRST OFF I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO ACTUALLY, UH, FOUND THE TIME.

I KNOW OUR TIME IS VERY VALUABLE IN THE WE'RE ALL VERY BUSY.

UH, AND YET WE'RE ALL ASKED TO CONTRIBUTE AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL AHEAD OF TIME, AND TO, TO SHARE, UH, AT A LIST OF PRIORITIES FOR WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE COMMISSIONER REALLY FOCUSED ON FOR THIS YEAR.

AND JESSE HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO THEM MATCH THOSE TWO DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, AS BEST AS WE CAN.

ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS, AS I LOOK AT, UH, OUR WORKING GROUPS IS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS BEFORE WE LOOK AT ENTERTAINING, ADDING ADDITIONAL WORK IN GROUPS.

SO I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF OF ANYONE'S PLATE THAT THEY REALLY EMBRACE AS A RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE'VE BEEN RAMPING UP MORE AND MORE AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO BE CANDID.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE HAS ANY CHALLENGES WITH, UH, THE DEMANDS ON THEIR TIME AT THE WORK GROUP LEVEL AND FEEL AS THOUGH IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, THEN WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS, UH, CONTINUE, UH, OR NOT.

I'D LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, JUST DISCUSSING THAT GENERALLY, IF EVERYONE STILL FEELS GOOD ABOUT THE DIVISION, UH, WITHIN THREE WORKING GROUPS AND, UH, HAVING THREE WORKING GROUPS, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, BEGINNING WITH, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR, BECAUSE I KNOW HE, HE CHAIRS ONE OF THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS, AND I MAY HAVE STRONG THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WELL.

SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE VICE CHAIR, ALEXANDRA, IF YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS, PLEASE.

YEAH.

SO I THINK IT'S, UM, A GOOD QUESTION TO EXPLORE.

I MEAN, WELL, I WANT TO, WE SHOULD BREAK THIS UP INTO MAYBE, UH, TWO AREAS OF DISCUSSION, MAYBE ONE, I GUESS, ONE PART OF IT BEING, UM, DO WE THINK THAT WELL, YEAH, I GUESS CAN WE THINK THAT OUR CURRENT WORKING GROUPS ARE STRUCTURED AND FOCUSED AND BE TARGETED IN WAYS THAT MEET THE COMMISSION'S OVERALL

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GOAL? UM, SO THAT'S, I GUESS THE FIRST LEVEL OF, UM, ANALYSIS, AND THEN MAYBE SECONDLY, WE COULD LOOK AT, WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS AS FAR AS HOW THEY'VE BEEN SLAUGHTERED AND THEN SEE IF THE MEMBERSHIP REFLECTS THAT TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE WORKING GROUPS.

MAYBE, UM, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO, TO JOIN A WORKING GROUP OR A LI ONE, IF THEY REALIZE THAT THEIR INTERESTS LIE ELSEWHERE.

SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING CONSIDER MAYBE A THIRD ELEMENT OF THIS AS I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE STRATEGIC, UM, WORKING GROUP AND I GUESS THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN FROM IT, BECAUSE I ENDED UP INITIALLY IN PART FROM THAT WORKING GROUP TO TRY AND ESTABLISH, UH, WHAT TYPE OF CONFERENCE OR FURTHER DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS.

UM, SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE EXAMINED AGAIN.

SO THOSE VARIOUS, SOME SORT OF MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT, UH, COMMENT HERE.

YEAH.

I FEEL THAT BY CONSOLIDATING A NUMBER OF AREAS, ONE GROUP, WE ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE.

AND IF WE HAD MORE GROUPS, WE COULD SPREAD OUT THE WORK MORE AND HAVE LESS OF A BURDEN.

AND THAT WAY PEOPLE COULD FOCUS ON SMALLER LOOPS OF TECHNOLOGY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, THAT'S, UH, AN INFORMED PERSPECTIVE.

I KNOW, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR ALEXANDER STATEMENT.

UH, MY THOUGHT IS, UM, THIS, I THINK THAT I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO CERTAINLY TO SHARE THE LOAD MORE.

UM, I, I THINK THAT WHETHER OR NOT WE END UP, UM, KEEPING THE WORKING GROUPS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP.

WE HAVE THE, UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC, UH, IMPACT, BASICALLY WORKING GROUP, UH, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC POLICY IMPACT WORKING GROUP, AS IT RELATES TO TECH AND TELECOM.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING.

THOSE ARE THE THREE WORK GROUPS WE HAVE NOW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP, UH, WHICH IS INCLUSION THAT IS NOT WORKING GROUP.

I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WORKING GROUP WAS EFFECTIVE AT ACHIEVING THE COLLABORATIVE PROJECT AND BY VIRTUE OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING THAT WE HAD AROUND, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION AND POLICY, UH, INCLUDING POLICY MAKERS AND, AND CITIZENS.

UH, UH, SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S DEMONSTRATED, UH, SOME, UH, SOME USEFULNESS AND FOCUS AS PART OF THE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP.

I, I SEE REAL VALUE THERE.

UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, UM, PROBABLY INCREASING NEED FOR KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, DATA STEWARDSHIP AS A WORKING GROUP, AS WE LOOK AT EVALUATING, UH, MORE HANDS-ON WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE WEBSITE AS WE LOOK AT, UH, THIS YEAR BEING A RESIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGY STUDY YEAR, UH, AS WE LOOK AT, UM, THE, THE NEED TO REALLY GET A HANDLE ON CITY PILOTS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ATLAS ONE, APD APP IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT.

UM, I PERSONALLY DO SEE REAL VALUE, UH, AND, AND THE, THE WORKING GROUPS, WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH, IS THAT ALL THREE WORKING GROUPS MEET ON A CONSISTENT BASIS AND ARE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR

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AVAILABILITIES CERTAINLY COME INTO PLAY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RIGHT THAT SCHEDULE, I THINK HOPEFULLY WE DO FREEZE WORKING GROUP.

UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.

UM, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ASK IF, IF, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, STRONG THOUGHTS ABOUT WORKING GROUP STRUCTURE, WE CAN PIVOT TOWARDS EVALUATING THE PRIORITIES THAT JESSE HAS OUTLINED FOR THE EXISTING WORKING GROUPS, AND THEN START TO BE MINDFUL OF REDUNDANCIES.

AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP TO BEGIN WITH IS THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO STRONG FEELING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY MAKE A MASSIVE CHANGE.

UH, JUST KEEP IN MIND, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, STREAMLINING.

UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE TO MANAGE IN ADDITION TO, UM, WORKLOAD, WE HAVE TO MANAGE CORE ISSUES, UH, RIGHT.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WALKING QUORUM, UH, MEANING WE CAN, WE CAN KNOW WE CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE IN ANY WORKING GROUP, FIVE COMMISSIONERS AND ANY WORKING GROUP.

SO WITH THERE BEING, UH, 11 OF US, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THE HAVING THREE WORKING GROUPS DOES CREATE A SCENARIO WHERE AS LONG AS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT SHOW UP FOR EVERY MEETING, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

UM, BUT IN SCENARIOS WHERE WE HAVE ONLY TWO, UH, SHOW UP OR ONE FOR WORKING GROUP, THEN, THEN THE BURDEN IS NOT REALLY SHARED EQUALLY.

SO IF, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY STRONG FEELINGS OR IDEAS ABOUT WORKING GROUP STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE RELEVANT REGULATORY, UM, I SUGGEST THAT WE DIVE INTO THE PRIORITIES AND TO START TO KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE REDUNDANCIES.

HOW DOES THAT SOUND? SO THEY WANT TO POST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO POST TO THAT OR HAVE ANY FEELINGS ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO START LOOKING AT THE PRIORITIES AND THEN LATER ON, WE CAN DECIDE REARRANGE THE PERSONNEL TO EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION THAT CAN HAPPEN LATER.

I AGREE WITH, UH, AND, UM, YES, I THINK THAT, THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STEP RIGHT IN THEN.

UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT FOUND THE TIME TO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE PRIORITIES.

UH, IT HELPS US OUT QUITE A BIT.

AND, UH, AS WE SEE HERE AT THE BEGINNING, UH, WITH, UH, KNOWLEDGE OF PERMISSION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORK GROUP, UM, THERE'S QUITE A LIST HERE.

I DON'T SHARE THIS WORKING GROUP.

I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND HAND IT OFF, UH, TO COMMISSIONER, ASSUMING VICE CHAIR OUT VENDOR TO LEAD THIS EFFORT, UH, FOR THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA SEARCH AT WORKING GROUP.

OKAY.

SURE.

WELL, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR PITS.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SUBMITTING THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS, ALL AGENDA ITEMS, IF YOU WILL, OR, OR WORKING FOR VIRGINIA ITEMS, UM, FOR US TO EXPLORE, UM, WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO THINK, JESSIE BULWARK, WILEY, ALL OF THIS.

I, UM, I WAS TAKING SOME NOTES ON IT AS WELL, AND THIS WAS, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE IT ALL IN A GOOGLE, GOOGLE DOC THAT WE CAN EDIT.

SO I THINK I'M KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH THESE ITEMS. SO I SEE, UH, COMMISSIONER ISLAND HAD SOME POINTS ABOUT PROGRAMS, RESOURCES, DIGITAL KIOSKS, AND THEN ALSO, UM, EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT TAKING THE SHOES WITHOUT GOOD.

I'M SORRY.

IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY.

IS, IS EVERYONE MUTED THERE? MAYBE SOME BACKGROUND NOISE OR A MAYBE, UH, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I GOT, I GUESS WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

UM, SO I THINK, OH, DIGITAL FORUM.

OKAY.

TWO PEOPLE SUBMIT IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.

SO I, I THINK

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THESE TWO SUGGESTIONS KIND OF OVERLAP AS FAR AS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THIS PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP IS FOCUSED ON, WHICH IS A PILOT PROGRAMS. SO IN THE PAST, UM, WE, THE WORKING GROUP HAS DEVELOPED, UM, THE, UH, THE SUPPORT FOR THE WI-FI LENDING HOTSPOT, THE WIFI HOTSPOT LENDING PROGRAM.

WE AT AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME UPDATES ON, UM, DIGITAL KIOSKS IN THE PAST PAST, ALTHOUGH PRETTY, PRETTY LIMITED IN THE LEVEL OF, OF DETAIL AND, AND I GUESS THE RECURRING UPDATES OF IT.

SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT THIS WORKING GROUP IS FOCUSED ON, UM, AS FAR AS PILOT PROGRAM.

SO I SEE THAT, UM, CHAIR PITS INCLUDED A FEW OF THOSE AS WELL.

SO SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS, ATLAS, ONE APD APP, UM, COMMUNITY FIRST, THREE PRINTING, HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES.

UM, I THINK WE COULD ALSO ADD THE, UM, THE WI-FI HOTSPOT LENDING PROGRAM TO THAT AS WELL.

UH, BECAUSE I, I NOTICED THAT CHAIR PITS INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT EXPANDING THAT, SO WE COULD, UH, PERHAPS INCLUDE ANOTHER, UH, BULLET THERE BECAUSE, UH, SO I SEE IT'S CURRENTLY PILOT AUDIT AND ASSESSMENT, SO IT'S AB THE PROGRAM THAT ALREADY EXISTS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A FORM OF ASSESSMENT.

SO I GUESS THAT KIND OF IS LINKED TO CHAIR OR COMMISSIONER ISLAND'S OBSERVATION ABOUT, UM, A DIGITAL FORUM.

SO THAT COULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM OF TORTS OR THE DIGITAL KIOSK THAT I COULD ALSO, WELL, I GUESS THOSE DO EXIST, BUT, UM, MAYBE AN ASSESSMENT ON THAT.

OH, YES, PLEASE.

UH, COMMISSIONER HIGHLAND.

I AGREE THAT, UM, I THINK IT COULD BE PUT UNDER THE PILOT PROGRAM.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, WIFI, BUT MORE SO FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY TO CONNECT TO WIFI.

SO, UM, ANYBODY THAT CAN GO AND FIND THIS INFORMATION THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE TO THEM.

UM, SO THAT'S THE OPTION.

IT WAS A DIGITAL KIOSK ISN'T NECESSARILY THE MOST, UM, PROBABLY FINANCIALLY FRIENDLY THING TO DO, BUT, UM, JUST SOME KIND OF FORUM OR SOME KIND OF PLACE WHERE AROUND TOWN WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO GET THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS AS VISIBLE TO INDIVIDUALS NECESSARILY NEED IT.

SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S ITS OWN KIND OF BULLET POINT MAYBE.

UM, I DO THINK THAT THE DIGITAL FORUM COULD PROBABLY GO UNDER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY PILOT OR THE SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS.

I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET LOST.

AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT.

THAT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE THAT WE, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF, OF ANY BIG, UH, SO YES, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AND, UM, YES.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT, UM, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP, AS FAR AS THE ITEMS YOU SUBMITTED? NO, I THINK THAT COVERS IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.

UM, SO PERHAPS WE COULD, UM, LET ME THINK SO, WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD BRING IT UP TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP TO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UM, THE, UM, EXPLORING THE DIFFERENT TASKS AND PERHAPS HAVING AN UPDATE ON, ON