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[00:00:02]

DO YOU

[CALL TO ORDER]

HAVE A QUORUM? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUSY AGENDA TONIGHT.

THIS IS THE PARKS AND REC POOL.

THE PARKS AND RECREATION.

THE BOARD MEETING IS AUGUST 24TH IS FIVE, 2:00 PM.

AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND CALL THE HOLD THE ROLE.

SO, UH, VICE CHAIR, DIPLOMA, RESIDENT, UM, BOARD MEMBER RINALDI, PRESENT BOARD MEMBER DICARLO, PRESENT BOARD MEMBER FAUST, HUFFMAN BOARD MEMBER BERNARD PRESENT, OR MEMBER TAYLOR, NOT YET.

AND BOARD MEMBER COTTON SEIBEL PRESENT.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

SO I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED BEFORE WE DO GET STARTED.

I WANTED TO, UM, TO INTRODUCE, UM, TWO PEOPLE, ONE, UM, ONE ACTUALLY HAS, UM, BEEN WITH US AT OUR MEETINGS FOR A WHILE NOW AND KIND OF, UM, IN VITRO.

SO I THINK SAMMY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW US A PICTURE? OKAY.

MAYBE.

YEP.

OR PULLING IT UP.

JUST GIVE US A SECOND.

OKAY, PERFECT.

ACTUALLY START SPEAKERS.

CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE TO MUTE YOURSELF? HUH.

SO THERE WE GO, EVERYONE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO BOARD MEMBERS TO CARLA.

SHE IS UNCERTAIN FROM, UM, UM, DAISY DECARLO, WHO IS OBVIOUSLY SO ADORABLE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN WHAT ANNA ABOUT A MONTH, UH, TOMORROW WILL BE THREE WEEKS.

YES.

SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH THIS.

SHE MIGHT MAKE AN A, MIGHT MAKE HER ZOOM DEBUT LATER.

YEAH.

OH GOOD.

THANK YOU.

AND THE OTHER PERSON I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE IS OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, AND WE'RE JUST THRILLED TO, UM, TO HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBER FROM DISTRICT SIX, WHICH IS LISA HUFFMAN.

WELCOME LISA TO YOUR FIRST MEETING.

AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOURSELF, IF YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

SURE.

THANKS.

UM, I'M THRILLED TO JOIN YOU ALL.

AND, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST EFFORT AT JOINING, UH, LOCAL ISSUES WITH CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR 22 YEARS AND OF COURSE, LIKE ALL OF US JUST LOVED OUR PARKS AND, AND UH, JUST HELD THEM IN HIGH ESTEEM AND WE HAVE A LOVELY CITY.

SO I'M JUST THRILLED TO BE WORKING ON THIS, THIS BOARD WITH YOU ALL.

UH, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE A LITTLE SOFTWARE COMPANY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING.

AND WE HAVE TWO ADULT DAUGHTERS THAT ARE OFF AND THRIVING IN THE WORLD.

SO WE'LL ALSO, WE ARE REALLY THRILLED THAT YOU'RE HERE.

IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM DISTRICT SIX.

SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE THERE TO REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

OKAY.

SO

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON.

I THINK WE HAVE, UM, WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE.

WHY DON'T YOU CLARIFY FOR ME, SEND ME, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO SPEAK CHAIR LEWIS, AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER, WE TAKE ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS AT THE START OF THE MEETING.

SO WE'LL DO A GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS. OKAY.

OKAY.

AND COULD YOU PLEASE REMIND US, UM, REMIND ME HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE DO HAVE WE HAVE ONE GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AT THREE MINUTES, AND THEN I THINK LAST COUNT I HAD 22 SPEAKERS FOR THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ZILKER CAFE, UH, THE HANCOCK SURVEY AND THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK PLAN.

OKAY.

SO, AND WE, I KNOW EVERY ONE OF US ON THE BOARD, I FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE.

I REALLY ALWAYS JUST THRILLED THAT PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME TO COME IN AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS BEFORE US.

AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY GLAD TO HEAR FROM THEM.

WE DO HAVE A

[00:05:01]

REALLY BUSY AGENDA TODAY.

SO, UM, WE MAY HAVE TO CUT BACK A LITTLE.

I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT ON TIME.

I DID WANT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO SPEAK ON THE CUP TO KNOW THAT WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THE CUP RECOMMENDATION TODAY.

WE, UM, WE KIND OF GOT SOME LAST MINUTE.

UM, WE WERE TOLD KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT WE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CUP RECOMMENDATION FOR NEXT OTHER NEXT MEETING.

SO I, UM, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO, UM, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY, EVEN THOUGH WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT WHERE AS I SAID, WE ARE ALWAYS JUST ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, AND WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO BACK AND SPEAK AT THE, ARE THE UPCOMING SEPTEMBER MEETING WILL ON SEPTEMBER 28TH.

WELL, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS FAR AS I KNOW WE, UM, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU THEN TOO, BUT I AM GOING TO JUST MOVE THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE REALLY A LOT ON OUR AGENDA.

WE DID NOT MEET IN JULY AND IT'S A PRETTY PACKAGE, GENUINE WITH A LOT OF, UM, ISSUES THAT I THINK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE, UM, A LOT TO SAY ABOUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE, INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THREE MINUTES THAT WE I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ASK OUR SPEAKERS TO JUST SPEAK FOR 90 SECONDS.

SO COULD I GET A SECOND ON THAT SECOND? DID I GET, YES.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR, DIPLOMA ALL.

UM, SO, AND JUST, SORRY, CHAIR, JUST TO REINFORCE, I MEAN, ANYBODY WHO CAN SPEAK AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

IT WILL PROBABLY ALLOW US TO HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THROUGH OUR AGENDA AND NOT IN TO GO GET TO ITEMS. OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CUT OFF ON TIME.

THANK YOU.

AND CAN WE GET A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT TIME FINAL CALL CUTOFF IS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY? HARD STOP IS 9:30 PM TONIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO IF WE COULD JUST PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION TO LIMIT THE COMMUNICATION TO 90 SECONDS ALL IN FAVOR AND I'M IN FAVOR.

THIS IS MINA RENALDI.

OKAY.

AND DEAN, I THINK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE VIDEO ON, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.

I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH THAT MOMENTARILY.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY I GOT YA.

THANKS.

THANKS.

OKAY, SO SAMMY, CAN YOU SEE EVERYBODY? I DO NOT SEE BOARD MEMBER FAST.

I WASN'T SURE WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

YES OR NO.

REMEMBER BUYING AGAINST.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE, UM, ONE VOTE AGAINST AND THE REST, UM, IN FAVOR.

SO THE MOTION I BELIEVE PASSES IS IN ANY, DID ANYBODY ABSTAIN? OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, ENGAGE IN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND VICE-CHAIR DIPLOMA.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

OKAY.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND OUR, OUR, OUR ONLY PERSON UNDER GENERAL CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION IS KEVIN RAINA'S WITH AUSTIN ROWING CLUB.

GOOD EVENING, KEVIN.

AND JUST TO REMINDER, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS KEVIN .

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN RUNNING CLUB.

FIRST.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO TELL YOU.

WE CELEBRATE OUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY.

THIS YEAR.

ARC IS EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE 40 YEARS.

WE HAVE PROVIDED COMMUNITY BENEFITS TO AUSTIN AS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION OPERATING ON LADY BIRD LAKE REGARDING THE NEXT 40 YEARS.

THIS IS AN AREA OF CONCERN AND ALSO AN AREA OF SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY.

I BELIEVE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE LAW CREEK BOATHOUSE FOR THE TRINITY STREET BRIDGE CROSSING OVER LADY BIRD LAKE IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL AUSTINITES WORKING TOGETHER.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ALL CITIZENS OF AUSTIN.

BY CONNECTING THE OUTREACH SERVICES WE PROVIDE WITH MASS TRANSIT, THE CHALLENGE IN BENEFITING COMMUNITIES IN NEED IS HOW TO GET THE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY OR THE COMMUNITY, TO THE SERVICES CAP.

METRO SOLVES THAT PROBLEM.

I PROPOSE THE PART LEADERSHIP AND THE PART FOR THE CREATION OF A NEW COMMITTEE AT YOUR NEXT SPECIAL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THE SOLE FOCUS OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THE PLANS AND VISIONS FOR THE FUTURE

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REPLACEMENT OF THE BOATHOUSE COMMITTEE WOULD REPORT BACK TO THE PARK BOARD.

BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, THE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB PARK, CAT, METRO ATP, AND OTHER ENTITIES.

THE PARK BOARD SEES FIT.

THE TIME IS NOW TO DEVELOP THE PLANS AND VISIONS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE WONDERFUL, DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CENTRAL TEXAS ON LADY BIRD LAKE.

IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY TO WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HERNANDEZ.

ALL RIGHT.

AND OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS OUR NEXT, THIS IS COMMUNICATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM B3 ON THE ZIPPER CAFE.

THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE HAVE LISTED AS DANIEL JANUS, AS OPPOSED, UH, MR. YANNIS, YAMAHA'S SORRY.

LET'S BE ON.

IS, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND MR. YANAS MAY HAVE CHOSEN TO, UH, SPEAK AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH WE APPRECIATE, UH, HE'S STILL IN THE QUEUE.

LET LET'S GET IT.

WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON GETTING HIM ON MUTED.

I THINK HIS PHONE NUMBER IN HERE.

OKAY.

THEN WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WAIT, DANIEL, CAN YOU HEAR US? YOU SHOULD.

I DIDN'T SAY THAT I WOULD COME BACK.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

I APPRECIATE IT.

MR. YANNIS, GO AHEAD.

YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

I HEARD THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, WELL, UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE BARTON CREEK CAFE, I'M CATEGORICALLY OPPOSED TO THEM SELLING ALCOHOL, UH, RIGHT BY ZILKER PARK WITH FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING.

AND, AND IN GENERAL, I'M OPPOSED TO ANY ALCOHOL SALES IN ANY OF OUR PARKS.

UH, WE LIVE WITH A CONSTANT STRUGGLE OF PUSHING BACK THE ALCOHOL CULTURE THAT EXISTS IN AUSTIN.

UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT IN OUR PARKS.

SO REALLY, UM, BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN SAY, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO VOTED AGAINST LIMITING OUR TIME TO SPEAK.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR SERVICE, ALL OF YOUR SERVICE, BUT WE IN THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, HAVE, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO GIVE US AMPLE TIME TO SPEAK.

UH, ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I COME FROM A PLACE IN A TIME WHEN CITY HALL YOU CAN HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND SO ANYWAY, I WON'T TAKE UP ANY OFF TIME.

UM, LIKE I SAY, I'M CATEGORICALLY OPPOSED TO THE, UH, LIQUOR ALCOHOL SALES, UH, AT THE CAFE AND ANY PARK IN GENERAL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I, KIMBERLY MCNEALY, I'M SENIOR A LONG TIME.

DON'T SEE YOU ANYWAY, BUT HI, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. YANEZ.

SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER, EMMA, GIVE THE NEXT THREE JUST SO THEY CAN BE LINED UP IN THE QUEUE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH JENNIFER RUBENFELD THEN MEGAN MEISENBACH AND THEN SAM MARK.

SO JENNIFER RABELL, UH, ROBIN ROBIN HALL.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY.

YES.

HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES TO CONSIDER WHEN DABBLING WITH THE IDEA OF TURNING PUBLIC PARK GREEN AND WATER SPACES INTO FOR-PROFIT ENTERTAINMENT EXPERIENCES AS A NATIVE AUSTINITE AND BARTON SPRINGS YEAR ROUND SWIMMER, I URGE ALL WHO LOVE THE AREA TO BE STEWARDS OF THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF LOCAL PART AND BURN SPRINGS POOL.

ACCORDING TO RECENT GUIDANCE FROM THE CDC, ALCOHOL SHOULD NOT BE CONSUMED DURING JUST BEFORE SWIMMING OR WHILE SUPERVISING CHILDREN.

UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY HOTELS, TUBING, BUSINESSES, THERE'S AMUSEMENT PARKS, RESTAURANTS PLAY PLAYSCAPES AND WATER PARKS ALLOW ALCOHOL, BUT THEY ARE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES THAT REQUIRE WAIVERS.

IN MANY INSTANCES, THESE ARE NOT PUBLICLY FUNDED PARKS SUPPORTERS OF THIS MEASURE SAY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A COLD BEER OR A GLASS OF WINE WITH FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND OTHERS AT PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, UM, THAT OFFER BEER AND WINE.

THEY GO ON TO SAY THAT DRINKING HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM.

BUT OUR RESPONSE IS THAT THESE ARE DESIRES, WHICH ARE NOT COMMUNITY NEEDS THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY, SPIRIT AND LEGACY OF THE AREA.

DRINKING HAS BECOME A CULTURE OF AUSTIN APPEALING TO STUDENTS 20 AND 30 SOMETHINGS, EVEN YOUNG PARENTS, BUT ZILKER PARK AND BARTON SPRINGS IS FOR EVERYONE.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE AS A SOCCER PARK TO BE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHERE DRINKING IS PERMITTED, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES.

UM, THIS IS PROPOSED NEXT TO THE CAB TO THE TRAIN TRACKS NEXT TO BARTON SPRINGS POOL AND THE PLAYGROUND, THE POOL STAFF SPEAKER, YOUR TIME IS ELAPSED OKAY.

WAS ABOUT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

NEXT EAKER

[00:15:01]

IS MEGAN MEISENBACH IS NEGATIVE.

MEISENBACH ARE YOU THEN? OKAY.

MEGAN, ARE YOU THERE SAMMY? CAN YOU SEE, UH, MEGAN ON THE PHONE? NO, BOTH THE AB TECH AND I ARE SCROLLED IN REAL QUICK AFTER SAM, AFTER MEGAN, THEN THERE SAM MARTIN LEE, ANN RONSON, GREG NASAR.

OKAY.

I DON'T SEE SAN MARTIN'S NUMBER IN HERE AGAIN.

SAM MARTIN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR MEGAN AND MEGAN.

MEISENBACH YEAH.

MEGAN IS NEXT.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT LEANNE BRUNSON? IS SHE QUICKLY ACCESSIBLE AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE OTHER SPEAKERS? WE DON'T SEE LEANNE'S NUMBER REAL QUICK, EITHER.

OKAY.

ABOUT, UH, MR. AND WHAT SHE NEEDS.

YOU GET THE OTHER, SO YOU CAN LET ME KNOW CRAIG NASAL OR IS NOT ON THE LIST EITHER THAT WE CAN SEE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MR. SCOTT, COBB AND MS. PATRICIA BAALBEK AND MS. DEBBIE LOOMIS ARE THE NEXT THREE.

I'M SORRY.

WHAT'S THAT? MR. COBB, IS THAT YOU? YES, MA'AM FROM HERE.

OKAY.

RAY, THANK YOU, MR. COBB.

GLAD TO HAVE YOU GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

WE'LL JUST TRYING TO JUST CALL HIM LATE, BUT ANYHOW, MY NAME IS SCOTT.

UH, I'M A LIFEGUARD AT BARTON SPRINGS AND I'M TALKING TO YOU A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

I JUST CONNECT IT.

SO, UM, I SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE TO THIS BOARD IN JUNE WHEN THE PROPOSAL WAS DEFEATED AND I FIND IT RATHER DISTURBING THAT THE ISSUE WAS NOT CONSIDERED UPON THE OUTCOME OF THAT VOTE.

THE LANGUAGE AND CITY LAW CLEARLY SAYS THAT NO CONSIDERATION BY THE LAND USE COMMISSION MAY TAKE PLACE WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS ISSUE.

THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN ARE REPRESENTED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND THE PARKS AND BOARD HELD VOTES.

THAT SHOULD BE VALID.

MY QUESTION NOW IS HOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REPRESENTING THE ENTRANCE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND GETTING INVOLVED AFTER THE LAST BOAT, WE CANNOT AS A SOCIETY, JUST IGNORE THE RESULTS OF VOTES WHEN WE DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME.

AS SOME PEOPLE TRIED TO DO LAST NOVEMBER, DON'T IGNORE YOUR LAST VOTE AND PUSH THE ISSUE FORWARD IS NOT HOW OUR MUNICIPAL DEMOCRACY SHOULD WORK.

WE NEED TO RESPECT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

SO I URGE EVERYONE TO PUT IT INTO THIS PROCESS WITH ANOTHER VOTE, NO ON MAKING THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEIR CONSCIOUS LAST TIME AND GO TO, YES, THAT'S FINE.

YOU GO.

YES, LAST TIME.

BUT I ASKED YOU TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS OF BRINGING IT UP AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED FOR THERE TO BE.

NO.

THANKS.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. COP.

RIGHT NEXT WEEK.

PATRICIA IS MS. BELL BACK HERE? YES, WE THINK SHE IS PATRICIA, IF YOU WANT TO UNMUTE.

OKAY.

UM, I THOUGHT I DID UNMUTE WHILE YOU'RE UN-MUTED.

NOW WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE WITH US AND YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

EXCELLENT, GREAT.

WELL, I PLAN ON THREE MINUTES.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CUT ME IN HALF, SO HERE'S WHAT I WAS.

MY NAME IS PATRICIA BOBEK.

I'M A HYDRO-GEOLOGIST AND I HAVE BEEN AN AUSTIN RESIDENT AND SWIMMER SINCE 1978.

I AM A CAMP, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL

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SNACKS BAR.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES STUFF, CLOSE TO THE POOL.

AND ESPECIALLY AT THE POOL ENTRANCE FEAR ALREADY FINDS ITS WAY INTO THE POOL.

I OFTEN SEE BEER CANS IN POOLSIDE, TRASH CANS.

DURING MY MORNING SWIM THERE IN WINE SALES WILL ENCOURAGE MORE BROWN BAG BEER INTO THE POOL.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT DRINKING ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT.

I CAN ENVISION A DRIVER BACKING UP AND RUNNING OVER A SMALL CHILD.

I BACKED INTO MY GARAGE DOOR AFTER DRINKING ONE GLASS OF WINE.

SO I KNOW ACCIDENTS HAPPEN.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY INJURED OR DEAD CHILDREN.

THEIR PARENTS GREASE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY.

AND THIRDLY, ALCOHOL MAKES LESS CARDS, JOBS, MORE DISCOUNTS.

ALCOHOL ENCOURAGES THE SETTING ASIDE OF INHIBITIONS.

NASCAR DRINKERS ARE LIKELY TO PUSH BACK AND MAYBE EVEN BULLY LIFEGUARDS, WHOSE JOB IT IS TO KEEP THEM OUT.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO TEENAGE EMPLOYEES TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION.

AND SPEAKING OF INHIBITIONS, WE ALREADY HAVE A BEHAVIOR PROBLEM.

WOMEN TELL ME ABOUT MEN MASTURBATING WHILE WATCHING THEM EXERCISE, LESS TRADITION, MORE INTIMIDATION AND RESPECT.

SO PEOPLE DON'T WANT ALCOHOL AT SNACK BARS.

AND I SUGGEST THAT MY FELLOW HOOSIER ANDREW JACKSON, ZILKER DOESN'T WANT IT THERE EITHER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

RIGHT.

THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS, UH, MR. KING, IT IS DAVID ON THE PHONE OR D I MEAN, I HAVE A NOTE THAT YOU SAID THAT HE'S, HE'S GOING TO COME TO NEXT.

THANK YOU.

YES.

HE HAD INDICATED THAT HE WAS TRAVELING TONIGHT AND I DO BELIEVE, UH, DEBBIE LOOMIS, WHO IS NEXT ON THE LIST IS IN THE QUEUE.

I SEE HER.

PERFECT.

WELL, GO AHEAD AND LET'S LET MS. LOOMIS ON DEBBIE.

ARE YOU THERE? LET'S LUPUS.

OKAY.

THEN AFTER MS. LUPUS, MS. LOOMIS WILL BE ROBYN BRADFORD, CLARK HANCOCK.

AND THEN, UH, MR. ROY WAYLAID, DEBBIE LOOMIS.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? WE SEE YOU IN THE QUEUE.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S UH, ONCE YOU WORK ON DEBBIE, WHILE WE GO TO ROBIN RADFORD.

OKAY.

WE DO NOT SEE ROBIN'S NUMBER IN THE QUEUE.

YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

IS THIS MS. LOOMIS? I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT'S WRONG.

I'M TRYING TO TALK.

YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

GREAT.

IS THIS MISS LUMENS? YOU CAN HEAR ME.

YES.

YES.

MA'AM.

THIS IS VICE-CHAIR.

IS THIS MS. LOOMIS.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, YEAH.

ANYWAY, I'VE BEEN OKAY.

I DO NOT REMEMBER IF OKAY, SAMMY, WE GOT, WE GOT A COUPLE OF GOING ON HERE SO I CAN HEAR THAT CONVERSATION, MS. LOOMIS, ARE YOU THERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WONDERFUL.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ME ON THE PHONE, SO I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH.

IT'S CAUSE THERE'S A SLIGHT DELAY.

SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.

YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE UH, THIS IS VICE-CHAIR DEPALMA AND WE ARE READY.

WE ARE ALL LISTENING TO THE PARKS BOARD MEMBERS, ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

AND SO YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND GETS AND GO FOR IT.

THAT BE GREAT.

OKAY.

BEEN SWIMMING AT BARTON SPRINGS SINCE 1975.

I REALLY DON'T WANT ALCOHOL SOLD, UH, THERE.

AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE LIVES CARDS NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS WITHOUT DEALING WITH THAT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE MS. BRADFORD, ROBIN BRADFORD ON THE PHONE? VICE CHAIR.

WE DON'T SEE HER IN THE QUEUE OF COLORS.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW ABOUT MR. UH, CLARK HANCOCK US I'M HERE.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE

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90 SECONDS.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS CLARK HANCOCK.

I'M PRESIDENT OF SAVE BARTON CREEK ASSOCIATION.

UH, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PERMIT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN POOR PUSHED OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH, BUT I ASKED THAT YOU ALL DURING THAT MONTH, PLEASE LOOK AT THE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU BY VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SPCA AND REVIEW THAT, UH, WE CAN READ THAT OFF THE RIDE RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO READ THAT AS WELL.

THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS BARTON SPRINGS HAS A HISTORY OF CREATING BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT FROM THE 1920S.

WHEN 10 CENTS ENTRY FEE WAS, WAS INSTITUTED TO KEEP OUT PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T AFFORD IT BARTON SPRINGS, WHILE IT'S A UNIFYING PLACE FOR MOST OF AUSTIN, THAT IS ALSO A VERY, A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN DIVISIVE.

AND IT'S ACTIVELY WORKED TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT BY BRINGING IN ALCOHOL AND THAT LEVEL OF FOOD ENTERTAINMENT TO BARTON SPRINGS.

YOU ARE AGAIN CREATING A PLACE THAT IS NOT OPEN TO ALL OF AUSTIN.

SO I ASKED THAT YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, BUT THEY DO.

I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

MR. HANCOCK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING SURE THAT BARTON SPRINGS HAS LIMITED, UH, REMOVES LIMITATIONS FOR BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. ROY WHALEY, VICE CHAIR.

HE IS AN ACCUSED OF, WE'LL JUST TAKE A SECOND FOR HIM TO GET ON MUTED IN CABINET.

AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND HIT THE TIMER BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING DONE RIGHT.

IT IS BEING DONE HERE AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR IT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT.

ROY WHALEY, ARE YOU ON THE LINE AFTER MR. WALEY IS MR. KEITH CREIGHTON.

OKAY.

WE WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY ELSE STILL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I THINK KEITH MIGHT'VE DROPPED OFF.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE HIM IN THE LIST RIGHT NOW.

WHAT ABOUT, WHO DO YOU HAVE? WHO W NOW THIS PART, WHO DO WE USE? WHICH NUMBERS DO WE SEE ANYBODY FOR? B3? YES.

I FOUND ALL THREE FOR B THROUGH, UH, I'M SORRY.

BEFORE ALL THREE OF THEM.

I HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE LIST.

OKAY.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR B3? NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I CAN SEE, I'M GOING TO SCAN THROUGH REAL QUICK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO IF, UH, MS. MEISENBACH OR MR. WHALEY, UM, MR. NASER, I BELIEVE YOU ALL MAY HAVE MY CELL PHONE.

YOU FEEL FREE TO TEXT ME REAL QUICK AND IF YOU ARE ON STILL WAITING, ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON BECAUSE OF THE TIME WE HAVE, WE CAN ALWAYS FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ITEM BEFORE GETTING TO HANCOCK GOLF COURSE.

AND THE THREE FOLKS WE HAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM IS KEVIN MCKINNEY COHEN.

UH, WHY IS BIZARRE? AND SO MR. MCKINNEY, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

I'M A HOMEOWNER HOMEOWNER IN THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 26 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN, AND I'M SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE AT HANCOCK, UM, IS ALL ABOUT MONEY RIGHT NOW THAT HANCOCK IS MAKING MONEY, UH, OVER $400,000 IN REVENUE IN REVENUE IN JUST THE FIRST 10 MONTHS, THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THIS IS WITHOUT ANY OF THE YEAR MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE.

HOW COME IT WAS LOSING MONEY IN THE PAST? BASICALLY IT WAS BECAUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS IT WAS UNWANTED AND IT WAS BASICALLY A BAD PRODUCT.

NOBODY WOULD REALLY WANT TO PAY MONEY TO PLAY GOLF THERE.

SO WHAT HAS CHANGED

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THE CITY INVESTED IN 2014 AND THE RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH HAS REALLY TURNED THINGS AROUND AND GOT THINGS HEADING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT IT'S TAKEN YEARS FOR THE HANCOCK TO LOSE ITS BAD REPUTATION HAS KIND OF A YUCKY GOLF COURSE.

AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A NEW POPULATION THAT ONLY KNOWS IT FOR WHAT IT IS NOW.

A BEAUTIFUL, AFFORDABLE, CHALLENGING WALKABLE, HISTORIC GOLF COURSE THEY'LL KNOW IT AS THAT GOOD DOG PRODUCT.

THERE'S ALSO NEW MAJOR TRENDS IN GOLF, WALKING, AND HANCOCK IS A PERFECT PLACE FOR WALKING.

THERE'S A NEW STAFF WORKING OVER THERE, COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING AND THE NUMBERS ARE SHOWING THIS AND WILL YOU HAVE MY ORGANIZATION? THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE CONSERVANCY IS COMMITTED TO FUNDRAISING AND ADVOCATING THROUGH THE PARKS FOUNDATION.

AND NOW THAT HANCOCK HAS A PRODUCT THAT ALSO NIGHTS ARE WANTING AND HAPPY TO PAY FOR WORK.

DON'T CHANGE IT.

DON'T SHORTEN IT.

DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM IT.

KEEP THE HISTORIC NINE HOLE INTACT, OR YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF BACK WITH A BAD PRODUCT THAT NOBODY PAY FOR.

IT'S AN RDC, THERE'S A TRAIL, THE REC CENTER.

THERE'S A PLAYSCAPE THERE'S DUCK FIELDS.

THERE'S BASKETBALL.

IT'S A PERFECT FIT FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S PEACEFUL.

IT'S CLEAN GENERATIONS OF WILDLIFE, AND IT'S A PIECE OF AUSTIN HISTORY THAT ONCE IT'S GONE, YOU WON'T GET IT BACK.

AND COCK HAS PASSED ALL THE TESTS.

THE SURVEY SHOWS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT WAS 90 SECONDS.

NEXT SPEAKER COHEN, UH, DELINQUENCY.

YEAH.

HI THERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO I'M PRESIDENT OF THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE IS A TREASURED PUBLIC AMENITY CONTAINED ENTIRELY WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE'RE INTERESTED TO SEE THE SURVEY PRESENTATION AND NEXT STEPS, BUT IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, UM, OUR ASSOCIATION ADOPTED A STATEMENT SHARED WITH ALL THE MEMBERS IN FAVOR OF A FEW DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, SUPPORTING BUDGET SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE GOLF COURSE, CONTINUATION OF NON GOLF COMMUNITY SPACES, INCLUDING TRAIL SOCCER FIELDS AND PLAY SCAPES AND HAVING THINGS LIKE NON GOLF OPEN PARK DAYS AND ENGAGEMENT FOR EXTRA COMMUNITY USES.

AND THERE WAS ALSO CONSENSUS AROUND WHAT WE OPPOSE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE A DRIVING RANGE ADDED AT THE SPACE NETTING OR FENCING AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, THE NIGHT LIGHTING BEYOND THE PARKING LOT.

AND THERE WAS ALSO STRONG OPPOSITION TO A CONCESSIONAIRE TAKING OVER GENERAL OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE.

SO ECHOING WHAT KEVIN SAID, A LOT OF SUPPORT, HOW THE GOLF COURSE WORKS TODAY AND THE UNIQUE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR USAGES BETWEEN GOLF AND OTHER USAGES OF THE SPACE AND REALLY DOUBTING YOU THE GOLF COURSE.

AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONTINUE UPKEEP OF IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER, BIZARRE.

IT'S BIZARRE.

ARE YOU THERE? YES.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

UM, MY NAME IS AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE HANCOCK FOR ALL COALITION.

OUR COALITION IS FORMED AT THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA AND FINDING OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE AIM TO SECURE AN EQUITABLE FUTURE FOR THE HANCOCK, UH, ALL SITES.

EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE SENT YOU A LETTER WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE PLANNING, CONVENE BOOTH.

AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN COCONUTS CONDUCTS EQUITABLE AND TRANSPARENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THIS ISSUE TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL.

TODAY, WE ASK FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING DISTANCE FIRST COLLECT COMMUNITY BY FEEDBACK AND PRIORITIZE UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS.

THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BY BAR THAT WAS OPEN TO ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WAS AT THE START OF 2020 IN NEARLY ONE AND A HALF YEARS.

BART HAS NOT HELD A SINGLE MEETING THAT A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO WAS NOT AFFILIATED WITH AN EXISTING ORGANIZATION FOR THE IN, WE ASKED THAT BARD HOLD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY WIDE ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS THAT ALLOW AUSTINITES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BY ORGANIZING OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES.

SECOND SUPPLEMENT SURVEY DATA WITH OTHER FORMS OF FEEDBACK, THE BARD SURVEY WAS WORTHWHILE AND IN ENGLISH ONLY IT WAS OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS ONLY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND TARGETED KERN GOLFERS.

BY POSTING THE QR CODE AROUND THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES, WE ASKED THE BAR TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR EXISTING DATA WITH INCLUSIVE MULTI-LINGUAL AND ALL THE ABILITIES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES THAT PROVIDES COMMUNITY MEMBERS TIME TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE USE OF SPEAKUP AUSTIN, COLLECTING FEEDBACK FROM USERS OF ALL BARD FACILITIES AND WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ORGANIZATIONS.

WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE VISION BY COLLECTING FEEDBACK REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE HANGUP GOLF COURSE.

IT IS INTEGRAL THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENVISION MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FUTURES FOR THE SITE IN A MEETING BETWEEN OUR COALITION IN BARDSTOWN LAST MONTH, IT WAS INDICATED TO US FOR GOLF WAS A PRIORITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT

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AND THIS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO THE SURVEY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK UP.

UH, DO YOU MISS LEANNE BRUNSON ON ITEM B3, ZILKER CAFE? YEAH.

OR MAYBE NOT.

I SEE HER IN THE LIST.

ALL RIGHT.

WHILE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, GIVE HER, SHE SHOULD BE UN-MUTED RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

HELLO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE SURE CAN.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

AND WE'RE GLAD WE GOT YOU ON MS. BRUNSON.

YOU HAVE 97.

OKAY.

I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK.

YEAH.

I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN SINCE 1978, AND I'VE JUST BECOME AWARE RECENTLY ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FOR ALCOHOLICS THE CAFE.

UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF EXTRA STRESS FOR THE LAST GUARD.

DO ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH RESPONSIBILITY TRYING TO KEEP THE SWIMMERS SAFE THERE.

I THINK IT ALSO OPENS A CITY TO LITIGATION AND I THINK A PARENT SHOULD BE WATCHING THEIR CHILDREN NOT DRINKING.

AND IT COULD ALSO BE AN ADDED STRUGGLE FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT ALREADY HAVE ALCOHOL ADDICTION PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH.

AND I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STAY AS A FAMILY ORIENTED AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS ITEM B FIVE, AND THIS IS SURROUNDING THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK PLAN.

WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS LISTED, UH, FOR THIS AND THEN PUBLIC CITIZEN ASSISTANCE COMMUNICATION.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS MARY HOLMES, A POLST AD.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THOMAS BALONEY, DAVID FOSTER FARBER, AND THEN STEVE .

SO IN THE FIRST SPEAKER, YOU MISS A WHOLE SET OR BE THERE? YES, I AM.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? ARE YOU SURE CANNING, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE NINE.

ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS MARIAM SAID, UM, I'M A MEMBER OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK WORKING GROUP, AND I'VE LIVED ON WILLIAMSON CREEK SINCE 1981.

I SUPPORT THE VISION PLAN.

UM, IT'S ALREADY HELPED US OUT, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED.

WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE OUR DESIRES KNOWN FOR THE, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE BEND.

UM, THEY WANTED TO BLOCK THE COMMUNITY FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY, TO THE CREEK, TO JUST HAVING A WILLIAMSON CREEK WORKING GROUP, GAVE US A LITTLE MORE, UH, LEVERAGE AND MAKING THOSE NEEDS KNOWN.

UM, AND I KNOW ALSO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF BIG PROJECTS COMING UP.

UM, ONE OF THEM IS THE WINDS AND CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR IMPROVEMENT, WHERE THEY'RE REPLACING PART OF THE SEWER AND ALSO THE PROJECT CONNECT ORANGE LINE.

UM, THOSE ARE TWO LARGE PROJECTS THAT I THINK HAVING A VISION PLAN IN PLACE CAN REALLY BE IMPORTANT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, A CROCODILE ART TEACHER EXPRESS INTEREST IN DOING A MURAL PROJECT UNDER THE BRIDGE.

SO IF WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE, I THINK THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR HER TO PUT IT TOGETHER.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT DREAM GENTRIFICATION OF OUR AREA.

UM, I REALLY DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING ANYMORE, AND WE'RE ONLY TINY GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS.

SO I THINK WHAT THE COMMUNITY INITIALLY WANTS, UM, WOULD SAY PRETTY MUCH THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, RIGHT? OUR NEXT SPEAKER, MR. THOMAS BALONEY, RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HELLO.

I LIVE IN WEST GATE NEAR THE WESTERN END OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY PROJECT AREA.

AND I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT'S VISION PLAN.

IT'S A CAREFULLY CONCEIVED ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND FORWARD THINKING PLAN THAT SEEKS TO TAKE THIS DISUSED AND ABUSED AREA OF THE CREEK AND TURN IT INTO AN ACCESSIBLE AND VALUABLE PUBLIC ASSET WHILE RETAINING AND IMPROVING ITS NATURAL STATE RECREATIONAL SPACES LIKE THIS ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF OUR LIVES HERE IN AUSTIN.

AND THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE THIS CITY, THE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL PLACE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK AREA IS BEING USED AS A DISASTER DUMP.

AND IT'S CHOKED WITH GARBAGE UNDER THE GREENWAY VISION PLAN.

THE CREEK AND ITS ENVIRONS WILL BE CLEANED UP RESTORED AND MADE HEALTHY AGAIN RATHER THAN LANGUISHING AND THE TOXIC STATE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY IN, THE BEAUTIFUL AND PRACTICAL GREEN SPACE ENVISIONED IN THIS PLAN WILL BENEFIT BOTH THE HUMAN RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN AND ITS WILDLIFE AS WELL.

THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN CAN BE PROUD OF AND ENJOY.

AND I URGE THE PARKS AND

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RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO APPROVE THE VISION PLAN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER, MR. DAVID FOSTER, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

YOU BETTER EITHER VICE CHAIR.

HE'S IN THE QUEUE AND HE'S UN-MUTED.

WE CAN SEE HIM.

ALL RIGHT, MR. FOSTER, THIS IS RICH DEPALMA.

GLAD FOR YOU TO JOIN US.

ARE YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I'M SORRY.

I THINK I WAS MUTED.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN ABSOLUTELY HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MY NAME IS DAVID FOSTER.

I'VE BEEN AT SOUTHWOOD RESIDENCE SINCE 1993, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY PLAN.

I SUPPORT IT, NOT LEAST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING FOR ME.

UH, THERE WILL BE A TRAIL HEAD ON THE CREEK, NO MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM MY, MY FRONT DOOR, UH, WAY BACK IN THE 1990S AS OUR SON WAS GOING UP, HE WOULD OFTEN TRAP AROUND IN THE GREENBELT EITHER ON HIS OWN WITH FRIENDS.

AND THIS MADE ME NERVOUS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, AS ANOTHER SPEAKER I ALREADY SAID, IT'S JUST A WASTE DUMP.

AND FRANKLY, THERE WERE NO CLEARLY MARKED TRAILS DOWN THERE.

I CAUGHT PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS.

DAN IS NOW, UH, LIVED THERE.

UH, AND I THINK HAVING A CLEARLY MARKED AND WELL-MAINTAINED TRAIL IS THIS, UH, PLAN INCLUDES WOULD BE BETTER FOR SAFETY ALL AROUND AND WITH PUT EYES ON THE TRAIL.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT MORE THAN JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGH.

THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD AND REALIZING A VISION THAT DATES BACK AT LEAST TO THE 1990S.

AND THIS IS THE VISION OF A CONNECTED SYSTEM OF HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ALONG AUSTIN CREEKS THAT CONNECT WITH A LADY BIRD LAKE AND THE TRAILS THERE.

UH, WILLIAMSON CREEK HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THIS VISION AND I WAS ACTUALLY A PART OF A NONPROFIT CALLED AUSTIN METRO TRAILS AND GREENWAYS, UH, THAT PROMOTED THIS VISION.

UM, AND, UH, WE DIDN'T, SUN CREEK HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF IT.

UM, THE SOUTH AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COMBINED PLAN APPROVED IN 19 20 14, RATHER CALLS FOR, UM, A PATH OR A GREEN BAY TRAIL, UH, GREEN CREAM BELT TRAIL ALONG WILLIAMSON CREEK.

SO FOR ME, THIS, THIS PLAN IS AN IMPORTANT STAFF IN BRINGING ABOUT THIS VISION THAT IS ACTUALLY 25 YEARS OLD.

IT FEELS TO ME LIKE IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

UH, MS. JEN CRAVER, MS. GREGORY, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? YES.

HI, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

OKAY.

UM, GETTING MEAN, UM, MY NAME IS JEN CRAVER AND I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE GREENWAY VISION PLAN.

UM, I'M THE NEWBIE HERE.

I'VE LIVED ON CLAWSON ROAD IN THE SOUTHWEST NEIGHBORHOODS FOR TWO YEARS AND AN AUSTIN FOR SIX.

UM, MY FAMILY AND I LOVE THE SOUTH GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IF THERE'S ONE THING, IT LACKS, IT'S USABLE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE, UH, PARTICULARLY A GREEN SPACE.

YOU CAN ACCESS WITHOUT CROSSING A MAJOR STREET LIKE THE CHOCOLATE.

I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE VISION PLAN INPUT PROCESS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO.

UM, ADDING COMMENTS TO THE SOCIAL PINPOINT ACTIVITY AND ATTENDING A VIRTUAL MEETING LED BY THE DESIGN TEAM, UM, WITH MY FAMILY.

AND I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN A TRASH PICKUP, BEEN ON THE CREEK.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS VISION PLAN SHOWS IN TERMS OF MAKING THE CREEK MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FAMILIES AND UNITING THE DISPARATE SECTIONS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO ABLE TO WALK WITH MY TWO YEAR OLD DOWN TO THE NATURE PLAY AREA OR, UM, BEING AN AVID RUNNER RUN FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CREEK.

AND OVERALL, I THINK THIS PLAN WOULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SOUTHWOOD RESIDENTS AND, AND THEN SUPPORT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IN OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR. STEVE BROTHA.

GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP.

WE CAN HEAR YOU AND YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME'S STEVE AND I'M SPEAKING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDER WHOSE PROPERTY ADJOINS CITY PARKLAND AND CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK.

AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE VISION PLAN.

I LIVE IN THE SALEM MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILLIAMSON CREEK.

I WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNFORTUNATE MISINFORMATION THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED AROUND THIS VISION PLAN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BECAUSE IT'S CREATED SOME CONFUSION AND FRANKLY HAS BEEN A BIG DISSERVICE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I'VE HAD FEARS THAT IT WOULD CAUSE THIS PLAN TO BE DERAILED.

WHAT, AND WHAT SHOULD THE PROFESSIONAL AND ORDERLY REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS? UM, THIS DISINFORMATION STARTED, I THINK AROUND FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO DONE BY EMAIL AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND NEIGHBORHOOD FORUMS AND CONTINUED WHEN THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE THE PARKS BOARD IN MAY.

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AND AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY PROVIDED FOR REBUTTAL.

THERE FIRST, THERE WAS ALLEGATION THAT THE PLAN CALLED FOR PERMANENT ENCAMPMENTS OR THE HOME HOMELESS, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY FALSE, BUT STILL ALARMED MANY PEOPLE.

UM, THERE WAS THE CONTENTION THAT THE PLAN CHANGED AND IT HAD MORPHED INTO SOMETHING RESEMBLING WATERLOO, GREENWAY, LOTS, LOTS OF CONCRETE AND ACTIVITIES, WHICH WAS ALL FALSE, BUT THIS ERRONEOUS CHARACTERIZATION EVEN GOT REPORTED IN THE LOCAL MEDIA.

UH, IT WAS SAID THAT THIS PLAN, WHICH CALLS HER TO PRIMITIVE TRAILS WOULD INSTEAD PAVE OVER THE CREEK.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

BYE-BYE UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S STILL HANGING OUT NOW IN, IN THE MAGICAL PHONE LAND THAT'S OVER THERE? I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN EVERYBODY RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT CHAIR.

UH, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION IS IN THE BACK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYBODY WHO SPENT THE TIME TO COME AND SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES WITH US.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OKAY.

UM, IF WE DON'T, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING IN JUNE.

AND IF SO, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS OR IF NOT, THEN IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, I HAD A, I HAD A COMMENT AND ACTUALLY KIND OF A QUESTION.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE HAD TO CLARIFY HERE IS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THAT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A VOTE.

SO IT DIDN'T PASS AS WE LEARNED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE NOTES, I THINK MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A QUESTION.

AND THAT IS, I SEE ALL THE PEOPLE LISTED THAT CAME TO TALK.

BUT DO WE, DO WE USUALLY DO THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION YOU ASKED, REMEMBER CUTTING.

CYBIL I I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.

YEAH.

THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH HER CONNECTION, I THINK.

BUT THE LAST QUESTION WAS SHE NOTICED THAT THE LIST OF SPEAKERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS AND SHE WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS ROUTINE.

YES.

YES.

OKAY.

YOU LOOK AT THE MEN SPECIFICALLY CHAIR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES, UM, AND YOU SEE, I KNOW WHAT THE SPEAKER IS TALKING.

I'M GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT.

SO UNDER, SAY THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE ZOCOR CAFE PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST THAT, IT HAS THE CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED BY, AND THEN BASICALLY LISTS EVERYBODY NAMED THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE FOR US DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT IN THE SIX YEARS, THE BOARD IT IS.

AND, AND MAYBE THAT, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T WRITE THE MINUTES SEMI, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS? I PUT THAT IN JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY, IF IT IS NOT CUSTOMED TO DO IT, UH, I WILL ADMIT THIS WAS MY FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD A LOT OF SPEAKERS AT.

UM, AND WE DID GET A REQUEST FROM THE MEDIA FOLLOWING THAT MEETING FOR, UM, SPEAKER NAMES.

AND SO I PUT IT IN THERE IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD THAT I KNOW LIKE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY PUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN THERE, SO I CAN CERTAINLY NOT DO IT GOING FORWARD.

I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE DO THAT, WE OUGHT TO ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE WERE 219 LETTERS THAT AT THAT MEETING IN FAVOR OF, UH, DENYING THE CUP AND THERE WERE THREE LETTERS AGAINST, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT, WE NEED TO GIVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.

WELL, THAT BOARD MEMBER, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONSOLIDATED LIST BECAUSE HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK I RECEIVED PROBABLY MORE IN FAVOR THAN MAYBE YOU DID.

AND I DON'T THINK I'VE RECEIVED, I MAY HAVE RECEIVED THE 219 AGAINST, BUT I KNOW, WELL, WE PROBABLY NEED TO RETHINK THIS BECAUSE WE PROBABLY ALL GET LETTERS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON SOME COME TO ALL OF US AND SOME DON'T.

BUT, AND I KNOW THE LETTERS WEREN'T OFFICIALLY PART OF THE, THE MEETING, BUT I, I SEE YOUR POINT, REMEMBER COTTON CYBIL.

SO,

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UH, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO, TO ADDRESS.

SO LET'S, LET'S PLAN TO DO THAT MAYBE OFF, UM, AT ANOTHER MEETING, YOU CAN ALSO MOVE TO STRIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD COME NEXT.

YOU, YOU CAN MOVE TO STRIKE THAT FROM THE MINUTES SINCE IT'S INCONSISTENCY WITH TIME.

SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, I WASN'T WHETHER YOU WANTED TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO MOVE TO STRIKE IT.

OKAY.

SO MOVED.

HEY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M SORRY.

I TURNED TO SEE, GOT TO GET A SECOND.

SO I DON'T SEE A SECOND, BUT IF I'M WRONG, SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ME, I'M VERY GOOD AT MISSING THINGS.

SO, SO ALL WE'RE, SO ALL WE'RE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS TO STRIKE THESE LISTS OF, UM, NAMES FROM THE PROGRAM AND THE MINUTES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF IT, BECAUSE SHE WAS, I THINK HER ISSUE WAS THAT WE IT'S NOT, WE DID, YOU KNOW, A BIG YOU UNDERSTAND, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE NOT MAKE A CONVENTION OUT OF LISTING THE NAMES OF SUPPORTERS WHO VOICED THEIR CITIZENS.

WHO'VE COME TO GET CITIZEN COMMUNICATION OR OFFER OPINIONS OVER EMAIL, JUST BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD TURN INTO A REALLY COMPLEX ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.

AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FUNCTION OF HAVING THE MINUTES AS A RECORD.

SO DON COMMENT SURE.

FOR US.

SO I WASN'T PRESENT AT THIS MEETING, SO I DON'T WANT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION OR A SECOND OR ANYTHING ON THE MINUTES I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN, BUT I WOULD MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT A STANDARD PROTOCOL WOULD BE TO STAY IN MINUTES.

PUBLIC COMMENT WAS TAKEN OR PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED BY THE BOARD.

THAT'S A STANDARD PROTOCOL YOU WOULD SEE IN GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY MINUTES, IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE NOTED.

OKAY.

I'VE ALSO SEEN IT THOUGH WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, LISTING OUT WHO, WHO HAD PROVIDED ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND THEN EVEN OUR EARLIER PARTS BOARD, UM, NOT WITHIN THIS DECADE, I DON'T THINK, BUT IN PREVIOUS, LIKE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES WHERE IT IS LISTED FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GIVING TESTIMONY.

SO, UM, I'M GOOD WITH EITHER ONE.

I, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I ALSO HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROCEDURAL NOTATION IS ACCURATE AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED THE LAST SENTENCE.

OKAY.

I THINK AT THIS POINT WE PROBABLY, UM, I MEAN, HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY WANT TO GO INTO A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT ON OUR AGENDA.

SO LET'S GO BACK TO, UM, BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL'S MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR NOT? SO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION OR NOT.

OKAY.

SINCE I DON'T SEE WHAT SEMI, I THINK WE PROBABLY, UM, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS AT SOME AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A POLICY, BUT AT THIS, IT SEEMS THAT, UM, WE CAN DO THAT MAYBE OFF, UM, NOT WHEN WE'RE AT THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

SO LET'S PLAN TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.

THANK YOU.

SO, IN THE MEANTIME, I HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 22ND, 2021, ADOPT THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? UM, WELL ACTUALLY WITH THE AMENDMENT CLARIFYING SURELY ADOPT AMENDMENTS CLARIFYING.

OKAY.

THE STATEMENT RELATING TO THE, UH, CONVENTIONAL, UH, CONDITIONAL USE BURNETT, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A STATEMENT CLARIFYING.

MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE MADE THE MOTION, SORRY.

Y'ALL YES.

WELL, WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A BOARD MEMBER HAGMAN.

WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD THIS MUCH TROUBLE WITH OUR MINUTES BEFORE, BUT WE'LL JUST, UM, WELL, THE KEY IS THE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT FOLKS WANTED A BASICALLY, WHICH WAS A NOTATION UNDERNEATH THREE SAYING, SAYING THAT LETTERS WERE ALSO RECEIVED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE AS WELL AS THESE, UM, AS WELL AS THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IS THAT WHAT'S, YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION THAT'S GONNA MAKE.

UH, I, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THE MOTION JUST FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.

I THINK EVERYTHING'S KIND OF CLEAR IN HERE.

SORRY.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE

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A SECOND FOR THAT? OKAY.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER BARNARD.

DO WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE MO THE, UM, APPROVING THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE? AND I HAVE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE UP TO FRUIT, BUT WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE.

WELL, I KNOW THAT BOARD MEMBER, UM, UM, LET'S SEND ME, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, AND I CAN NOT SEE BOARD MEMBERS TO CARLIN.

IS SHE STILL HERE? YEAH, I I'M STILL HERE.

THIS IS ANNA I'M I'M IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THOSE OPPOSED WE HAD FOUR MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE ABSTAINING RIGHT.

BOARD MEMBER FAUST.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, I'M ABSTAINING, BUT IT'S VERY HARD.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

YOU'RE ADOPTING MINUTES THAT STATE WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST AN IN FAVOR, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.

AND IT ALSO STATES PUBLIC COMMENT IN FAVOR OF, AND THEN IT LISTS THE VENDORS THAT ARE THE APPLICANTS.

SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

THEY'RE PUBLIC.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, HOW ARE THEY, HOW HAS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT? THIS IS A NOTION WE HAD DISCUSSION ALREADY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE DID.

SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THE MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[B.1. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the City Council for the negotiation and execution of a partnership agreement with The Trail Foundation for the operations, maintenance and programming for the Ann and Roy Butler Hike-and-Bike Trail at Town Lake Metropolitan Park.]

UM, MOVING ON TO, UM, THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE HAVE THE, UM, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE NEGOTIATION AND EXECUTION OF A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, FOR THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROGRAMMING FOR THE, AN ANDROID BUTLER, HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AT TOWN LAKE METROPOLITAN PARK.

THIS IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL IT FOR, UM, DISCUSSION OR SHOULD WE VOTE ON, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT CONTRACTS CONCESSIONS DID, SO OKAY.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO PULL? I WOULD, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THIS IS FOR A MEMBER FAST.

OKAY.

FOR OUR MEMBER FILES, LIKE TO PULL THE ITEM.

SO IN THAT CASE BOARD MEMBER FOSSE, DID YOU WANT TO, TO SEE THE PRESENTATION OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS? UM, THERE WAS A PARTICULAR SLIDE I NEEDED A MORE EXPLANATION ON.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I CAN, UH, REFER TO THE SLIDE AND I HAD A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, SLIDE 11.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY SEND ME THE, CAN PULL UP THAT SLIDE FOR US PLEASE? CHRISTINE, ARE YOU OKAY? YES.

GIVE US JUST A SECOND.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE LIANA OVER AND PULL UP AT THE SAME TIME.

THANK YOU.

HEY, CHAIR LEWIS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? IT'S JIM BERLIN.

YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SAMMY JUST TEXTED ME AND SAID THAT HER WEBEX SHE'S AT CITY HALL AND NO BUY BACKS HAS STOPPED WORKING.

SO THE QUESTION IS, UH, IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT CHRISTINE OR RIHANNA ARE AVAILABLE TO HIRE.

OKAY.

I AM HERE AND I BELIEVE HEIDI IS AS WELL, HEIDI ANDERSON WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION.

AND SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IF I COULD DESCRIBE, I KNOW, BOARD MEMBER FAST, SHE WANTED TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 11.

I BELIEVE.

SO.

NUMBER 11 IS THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP PHASING, IS THAT CORRECT? BOARD MEMBER POST IT'S SORT OF 11 AND 12.

UM, I, AND SO THAT DESCRIPTION HAS TO HAVE LIKE A, JUST A, UH, A PROCEDURAL QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK INITIALLY.

OKAY.

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PLEASE PROCEED.

OKAY.

SO THE STATUS, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT? THE ACTION WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO RECOMMEND NEGOTIATION AND EXECUTION.

AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CONTRACT HAS NOT BEEN NEGOTIATED OR WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE TERMS? SO I'LL ALLOW CHRISTINE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

OKAY.

SURE.

UM, SO IF YOU GO TO ONE ON THE BACKUP, YOU HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP, A CONFIGURATIONS, THOSE ARE THE HIGH-LEVEL TERMS FOR PARTNERS ENTERING INTO A PARTNERSHIP A WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL FIRMS THAT WERE, UH, UH, BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED AND DISCUSSED OVER A YEAR PERIOD.

AND, UM, WE DID PRESENT ON THEM ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? THOSE URNS ARE THEN, UM, WHAT REALLY MAKES UP THE POMA AGREEMENT PER THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION FROM MARCH 12TH, 2020, THE CURRENTLY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND TTF AS WELL AS CITY LAW ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL AS BECAUSE EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? AND EVERY SITE HAS DIFFERENT, UM, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN.

EVERY SITE HAS A DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING PLAN.

SO CURRENTLY THAT IS WHAT IS BEING WORKED THROUGH IN THE, THE, BETWEEN TTF CITY LEGAL AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE THESE HIGH LEVEL TERMS THAT WERE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN, UM, THE SPECIFICS OF THE AGREEMENT OR THE, THE REALLY THAT, WHAT IS GOING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PARTNER AS WELL AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

YEAH.

AND IF I COULD ADD TO WHAT CHRISTINE SAID PER THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER RIGHT.

TO, TO CREATE THE TERMS AND THEN TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REQUEST, IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR SPECIFIC PARTNERS AND THEY NAMED A COUPLE OF THEM.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, AS INDIVIDUALS, THE WAY THAT WE WERE INTERPRETING YOUR RESOLUTION IS THAT FOR THOSE PARTNERS, THAT WE'VE HAD LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITHOUT A FORMAL AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY WANTED US TO ESTABLISH COUNCIL, WANTED US TO ESTABLISH THOSE BASE TERMS, AND THEN BACK FOR PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE.

SO YOU HAD SEEN PRIOR TO THIS, THE PEACE PARK CONSERVANCY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE WINDUP.

AND THEN NOW THIS ONE, RIGHT.

AND THERE'LL BE OTHERS THAT WILL COME TO YOU BASED UPON THAT RESOLUTION.

RIGHT? YEAH.

I UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL PROCESS AND THE CONCEPT IN THIS, I WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CONTRACT WITH THIS ORGANIZATION SINCE, AS WAS STATED, THERE THEY'RE UNIQUE TO EACH SITE.

SO WITH THIS, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS SLIDE.

11 HAS THIS PHASING AND THEN SLIDE 12, CAUSE THESE LIKE SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITHIN EACH OF THESE ZONES, RIGHT? BOARD MEMBER FAUST AND CHAIR LEWIS AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.

THIS IS HEIDI ANDERSON CEO WITH THE CHARLE FOUNDATION.

AND WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS SLIDE DECK TO CONTRACTS AND CONCESSIONS LAST WEEK, THESE WERE SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT I, UH, UH, SPOKE TO.

SO IF YOU CAN ALLOW ME, I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND WALK YOU THROUGH THESE TWO SLIDES AND HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THEM.

SURE.

UM, SO SLIDE 11 HERE IS THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP PHASING AND IT WAS, IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

AND SO RIGHT NOW A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON, UM, ASSET INVENTORY.

UM, THE LITERALLY LAND MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN PRODUCED THAT WE SPOKE TO EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, ALL OF WHICH WERE DONE AND CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH, UH, UH, STAFF AND CITY CITY STAFF FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS WATERSHED PROTECTION.

UM, AND SO IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL, CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE PHASING ARE BASED ON ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT TRAIL ENVIRONMENT AND ORGANIZATIONAL CONDITIONS.

SO PER THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT, ONCE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT, WE WOULD TTF WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY EVERY YEAR ON AN ANNUAL BASIS REVIEWING STATUS OF, OF OUR CAPACITY FUNDING, FEASIBILITY, WHAT THE NEXT PROPOSED PHASE AND STEP WOULD BE.

AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE TOP MAP THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DESIGNATED THE TRAIL INTO FOUR SPECIFIC ZONES AND THEN OUTLINED THE PHASING FOR, UH, UH, ADDING RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TRAIL FOUNDATION FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS PER EACH ZONE.

SO THE SOUTHEAST ZONE IS THE FIRST ZONE, UM, THAT WE WOULD END UP MOVING THROUGH THREE PHASES OF TRANSFERRING

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SOME OF, OR, OR TTF STEPPING UP TO TAKE ON SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, AND ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OF THE SPACE.

AND SO IT WOULD TAKE A NUMBER OF YEARS TO FULLY ACHIEVE.

UM, TTF REALLY HAVING MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FOR THE FULL, UH, 10 MILE LOOP TRAIL AND AROUND 200 ACRES OF PARKLAND ON WHICH IT SITS.

UM, BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE.

WE'LL ALWAYS BE PUBLIC PARKLAND WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO THE CITY.

WE JUST STEPPING IN TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A PERCENTAGE OF, OF WORK, LITERALLY WORK THAT IS DONE BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WATERSHED PROTECTION, SO THAT