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CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE KRISTIN HA HASSON TALKING TO US ABOUT EVICTIONS.

OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THE ITEM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ON THE ITEM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO, YOU HAVE, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN HASSON AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMING EVICTION CRISIS AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN FOR AUSTIN AUSTIN'S PETS AND FAMILIES.

SO WE AT AMERICAN PETS LIVE THE ORGANIZATION THAT I REPRESENT HAVE CREATED A CALCULATOR THAT ESTIMATES THE NUMBER OF PETS THAT WILL BE AT RISK OF LOSING HOUSING DUE TO THE COMING EVICTION CRISIS.

AND HERE IN AUSTIN, THAT NUMBER IS POTENTIALLY OVER 38,000 ANIMALS.

THAT COULD BE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR HOUSING.

THE EVICTION CRISIS REALLY HASN'T KICKED IN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN ALREADY HAS A PROBLEM WITH PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS DISTINGUISHED FROM PET FRIENDLY HOUSING PET FRIENDLY HOUSING IS ANY HOUSING THAT ALLOWS ONE PET PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS HOUSING THAT DOESN'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPES OF PETS THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE.

AND THE NUMBER OF PETS PEOPLE CAN HAVE.

AUSTIN ALREADY HAS A CRISIS WITH PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE SO MANY MEDIUM AND LARGE DOGS IN THE SHELTER.

THIS WILL BE GREATLY COMPOUNDED BY THE EVICTION CRISIS.

WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW IS WE NEED TO SET UP PROGRAMS TO TEMPORARILY BOARD PETS WHOSE OWNERS ARE FACING EVICTION.

WE NEED TO SET UP PROGRAMS TO FOSTER PETS WHOSE OWNERS ARE FACING EVICTION.

THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MOST PEOPLE GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AND GET INTO HOUSING WITHIN 30 TO 90 DAYS, BUT THEY NEED THAT TIME.

AND IF WE DON'T CREATE MECHANISMS NOW IN THE CITY TO BUILD THAT WE WILL FACE A LOT MORE ANIMALS ENTERING THE SHELTER.

AND THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS I REPRESENT NOT ONLY AMERICAN PETS ALIVE, BUT HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES, WE'VE CREATED THE NATION'S ONLY TOOLKIT TO ADDRESS THE EVICTION CRISIS.

IT IS ON THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES WEBSITE, AND IT GIVES YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED.

IT HAS BEEN ACCESSED IN ALL 50 STATES IN MORE THAN A HUNDRED NATIONS.

PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THIS TOOLKIT ALL OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE THIS CRISIS ISN'T JUST HERE IN THE US, BUT THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES, AND IT SHOULD BE USED IN AUSTIN AND THEY SHOULD BE USED NOW TO PREVENT POTENTIALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS FROM ENTERING THE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND HAS EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO READ THE DRAFT MINUTES? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THEM.

SO KATIE MOVES TO APPROVE THEM.

DO I HEAR A SECOND EDWARD SECONDS? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? KAY, IF NOT, THEN LET'S VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

OKAY.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

OKAY.

[2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports.]

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS.

LAST ANIMAL CENTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT.

DON BLAND.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED IN AUGUST.

THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE FOR AUGUST WAS 97.5%.

WE HAD A TOTAL OF 1,240 ANIMALS BROUGHT INTO THE SHELTER.

IT INCLUDED 607 DOGS, 567 CATS, 15 WILD ANIMALS AND FOUR BIRDS.

A TOTAL OF 833 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED, UM, AND A TOTAL OF 121 DOGS AND CATS ARE RETURNED TO THE OWNERS THROUGH EITHER RETURNING TO OWNER OR RETURN OWNER ADOPT APS.

WERE WE ABLE TO RETURN 40 ANIMALS TO THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD? WE DID HAND OUT 26 FENCING APPLICATIONS AND IMPOUNDED 172 INJURED ANIMALS AND, UH, DELIVERED 96 WILDLIFE ANIMALS, SALTS AND WILDLIFE RESCUE.

WE DID ENTER 152 RABIES EXPOSURE REPORTS AND SO FORTH AND SUB MEETED 49 SPECIMENS ARRAY WITH TESTING, WE'D HAVE FOUR BATS THAT TESTED POSITIVE.

UH, A TOTAL OF 88 VOLUNTEERS DONATED 1,712 HOURS.

DURING AUGUST.

WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, FOUR ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS.

WE, AND INTRODUCING 88 PEOPLE TO THE SHELTER PROGRAMS. UM, 31 NEW VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST TRAINING OR MENTORSHIPS IN AUGUST.

WE HAD 240 MORE THAN 240 FAMILIES PROVIDE FOSTER CARE AND TOTAL 116 HUNDRED NINE ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM FOSTER.

CURRENTLY THERE'S 369, 9,000 IN FOSTER HOMES, 303 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO 22, UH, RESCUE PARTNERS.

UM, WITHIN VET SERVICES, WE HAD, HE HAD 60 EMERGENCY CASES THAT WERE TREATED BY OUR VETS.

WE WERE ABLE TO PERFORM 663 SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES,

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SIX OR THE PDX SURGERIES WITHIN PRC.

THEY WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT 747 BASIC ITEMS, INCLUDING FOOD BEDS ALECIA'S AND WE'RE ABLE TO DEFER 10 DOGS THAT HAD BEHAVIOR ISSUES.

UH, 80 FOUND ANIMAL REPORTS WERE, WERE SUBMITTED AS ALONG WITH 37 LOST ANIMAL REPORTS FILED.

UM, AND WE DID GET A 126 NEW SUBSCRIBERS TO LOST AND FOUND HEX PROGRAMMER TECH'S PROGRAM.

KICK IT OFF TO DON FOR THE COVID UPDATE.

YEAH, THERE WE GO.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE HAVE HAD MORE EMPLOYEES AND STAFF TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID DURING THIS SHORT COUPLE OF MONTHS THAN WE HAD ALL THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

SO WE, WE IT'S IT'S AFFECTED US, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE WISE.

UM, WE'VE HAD VERY FEW FOLKS THAT, UH, HAVE NOT WANTED TO COMPLY WITH WEARING A MASK WHEN THEY COME INTO THE SHELTER.

I'M TALKING ABOUT VISITORS.

UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE, UH, HAVE NO ISSUE AND THEY'LL PUT THE MASK ON AND WEAR IT.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE ONE, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE OR TWO THAT HAVE, HAVE HAD REAL ISSUE WITH THAT.

SO MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING AND, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, DURING IT WE'VE CON THIS PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE CONTINUED TO PROVE AND, AND ADD NEW TECHNOLOGY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH WAS OUR HOME TO HOME GETTING ROLLED OUT AND THEY REPORT THAT IT'S GETTING REALLY GOOD TRACTION AND SEEING A LOT OF USAGE.

WE ARE HAVING A, UH, CLEAR THE SHELTER EVENT ON THE 18TH AND WE'RE OPENING TWO HOURS EARLIER THAN OUR NORMAL SATURDAY.

AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOSTERS THAT ARE BRINGING THEIR FOSTER ANIMALS ONSITE THAT DAY ALSO TO TRY TO GET THEM ADOPTED SO THEY CAN PULL SOME MORE, THE BAD NEWS THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE, OUR GENERATOR THAT DID NOT KICK ON DURING A STORM YURI, BECAUSE IT, WE DIDN'T NEED IT.

WE NEVER LOST ELECTRICITY.

BUT WEEK BEFORE LAST ON SUNDAY, WE LOST ELECTRICITY FOR TWO HOURS AND IT DIDN'T CUT ON, UH, THE ENGINE WAS FROZEN AND BUSTED THE BLOCK.

AND SO WE HAVE A $298,000 EXPENSE THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SIX MONTH PROJECT TO GET IT.

SO THEY'LL GET A, GET A TEMPORARY GENERATOR ON SITE WHILE THEY REPAIR THE, GET A NEW ONE.

SO THAT'S OUR DISAPPOINTING NEWS THAT WE RECEIVED LAST WEEK.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UH, THE QUESTION, THANK YOU.

UM, WHAT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE TO THE HOURS FOR THE RESOURCE CENTER AND INTAKE? AND COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGE AT THIS POINT.

I KNOW THAT, UM, MARK AND HR HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HIRED.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT ABOUT ON THE REQUEST OF SHIFTING? SO IT'S NOT TWO WEEKEND DAYS THAT YOU'RE CLOSE, SHIFTING TO A WEEK? WELL, HE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND OUR WEEKENDS HAVE HISTORICALLY EVEN WHEN WE WERE OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, BEEN OUR LOWEST INTAKE DAYS.

SO COULD YOU PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT DATA THAT'S BEEN USED FOR THAT DECISION? SURE.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION, KATIE, ON THE DATA CHARTS WHERE IT SAYS, UM, ON THE TOTAL OUTCOMES, THERE'S THE ALIGNED FOR TRANSFER ON, ON EACH BLOCK.

AND DOES THAT INCLUDE TRANSFER TO LOCAL PARTNERS AND TRANSPORT OUT OF STATE? IS THERE A WAY TO BREAK THOSE TWO NUMBERS DOWN IN THE FUTURE? SO WE SEE THE TRANSPORT NUMBERS OUT OF STATE AND THE TRANSFER TO LOCAL PARTNERS SEPARATELY.

THANKS.

YES, RYAN, HOW MANY TRANSPORTS WE HAD ONE DONE LAST MONTH.

AND WHAT COMMUNITY DID IT GO TO TO SPLIT WHEN WE WENT TO NORTHWOODS HUMANE SOCIETY AND WAS GOOD.

THERE WE GO.

SORRY.

NORTHWOODS HUMANE SOCIETY IN WISCON.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT THE, SOME, A COUPLE WENT TO THE MONTH BEFORE, IS THAT RIGHT? TOTAL OF FIVE TRANSPORT SINCE WE STARTED THE PROGRAM.

OKAY.

YES.

UM, ON THE SPAY NEUTER NUMBERS, 663, IS THAT, UH, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL

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OR THAT JUST INTERNAL? DO WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATION FOR HOW MANY ARE DONE EXTERNAL? CAUSE WE WERE JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND I NOTED THAT THERE WAS A, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REPORTING THE EXTERNAL NUMBERS TO DO WE HAVE A ROUGH GUESS AT HOW MANY THAT IS PERMITTED? UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T USUALLY WHEN WE WORK WITH A MANTA PET, THEY'RE USUALLY A MONTH BEHIND ON SENDING US INVOICES AND YOU KNOW, THE AUTOMATED EXCUSES WEREN'T BUT THEIR PANDEMIC WAS HARD ON THEM AS WELL.

SO WHENEVER WE GET INVOICES, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT UP TO MAY, UM, MAYBE SOME, SOME NUMBERS FOR JUNE THE SAME WITH AHS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE ALSO COUNT THE COMMUNITY CATS.

DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE LOOKING AT, EVEN IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A MONTHLY NUMBER FROM MAY LAST TIME I LOOKED THE DATA CAUSE WE WERE DOING A QUARTERLY REPORT.

UM, AND I CAN, I CAN VERIFY THAT WITH AN EMAIL, JUST TO VERBALLY, IT WAS A, IT WAS, UH, 2 46.

UM, AND THEN IT CHANGES FROM MONTH TO MONTH, BUT I IT'S AT LEAST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED EACH MONTH.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR.

I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU TO PICK OUT NUMBERS FROM YOUR HEAD, UH, THE $300,000 FOR THE GENERATOR.

IS THAT GOING TO COME OUT OF ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET OR IS THAT GOING TO COME OUT OF A DIFFERENT FACILITIES? BUDGET? THE BUDGET OFFICE IS TRYING TO LOCATE FUNDING FOR US.

SOME OF IT I'M SURE WILL HAVE TO COME FROM OUR BUDGET, BUT THEY WILL TRY TO FIND IT AND IDENTIFY SOME FUNDING FOR US.

IS THAT NORMAL THAT A DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR ITS OWN GENERATOR.

I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE SINCE ONE PUT IN, SO I DON'T KNOW.

USUALLY, UH, YEAH, CORPORATE WILL WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

UM, IF THERE'S ONE TIME EXPENSES TO SEE WHAT FUNDING MAY EXIST THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN TRY TO SUPPLEMENT THAT, UM, AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS PART OF THE 300,000 IS, IS INCLUDING THE, LIKE DON SAID THE, THE GENERATOR ITSELF, SORT OF THE LOGISTICS TO GET THAT GENERATOR BECAUSE OUR GENERATORS MASSIVE, IT HAS TO STAY ON AND THEN MULTIPLE FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS.

AND THEN THE, THE TEMPORARY GENERATOR THAT'S GOING TO BE IN TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE POWER.

SO THE COSTS ADDED UP FOR THE, UH, THREE LIVESTOCK.

JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WERE THOSE, DO YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ADOPTED OUT PIGS, PIGS.

WELL, THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT.

UM, THERE STILL COMMUNITIES WHERE, UH, I SEE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, YOU JUST CAN'T ADOPT THEM OUT.

YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT.

UH, SO THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO THE EFFORT TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, RYAN.

SORRY.

THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE HAVING VIRTUAL.

ALRIGHT.

DID YOU GUYS HEAR HIM? HIS ANSWERS AT LEAST, YES.

OKAY.

DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING? NO.

OKAY, GREAT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, OH YEAH.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, ON YOUR ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT, YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE 127 NEW FOSTER APPLICATIONS WERE PROCESSED.

UM, HOW MANY DO WE KNOW HOW MANY APPLICATIONS FOR FOSTERS ARE STILL PENDING? AND HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY DECENT TURNAROUND TIME ON GETTING, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 AT LEAST FOSTER CORNERS, RESCUE FOSTER PARTNERS, AND THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE FOSTER EMAIL ACCOUNT SO THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT APPLICATIONS AND THEN FOLLOW UP AS NECESSARY.

SO AT BEST THEY CAN DO IT SAME DAY AS THE, AT FIRST IT MAY BE A DAY OR TWO.

OKAY.

SO BASICALLY IT SOUNDS THEN LIKE, AS YOU'RE, THEY'RE GETTING FOSTER APPLICATIONS THERE.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON SOME MATH HERE.

SO YOU SAY 303 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO PARTNERS, BUT 163 CATS AND 93 DOGS IS 256.

SO WHAT IS THE DELTA OF 4,700? I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WILDLIFE BECAUSE WE COUNT THE WILDLIFE TRANSFERS, BUT I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY.

OKAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING, SO THERE WAS LIKE 47 WILDLIFE TRANSFERRED SOMEWHERE.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, THE GENERATOR, UM, SO IT IT'S, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE IT'S $298,000 IS WHAT YOU SAID.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL JUST APPROVED $300,000 OR SOMETHING.

IS THAT GOING TO BE USED FOR THE GENERATOR? NO.

NO, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ALLOCATED THAT FOR OTHER SPECIFIC PURPOSES, OTHER SPECIFIC.

OKAY.

SO THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T WHAT THE 300,000 REQUESTS WAS FOR.

NO, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS AN UNFORESEEN SORT OF EXPENSE THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING TO SORT OF SCRAMBLE TO, TO TAKE CARE OF.

OKAY.

AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S ALLOCATED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THE GENERATOR.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

CAUSE THAT'S THE COUNCIL ACTION WITHIN THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET GAVE IT TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED THAT MONEY OUT FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PURPOSES.

UH,

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I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF YOU HAVE A BEHAVIORAL DOG, LET'S SAY THAT'S BEEN STAYING THERE A LONG TIME.

WHAT IS THE POLICY ON GETTING THAT DOG NEUTERED? AS SOON AS IT'S AVAILABLE HEALTH WISE OR STRAY HOLD WISE, WE TRY TO GET THEM NEUTERED.

ALL THE DOGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE, UH, AS OF TODAY, WAS IT 96% OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPAYED OR NEUTERED.

OKAY.

HEY.

CAUSE IT, IT, UH, IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE IF IT'S A BEHAVIORAL PROBLEM AND I MAY BE WRONG ON THIS, BUT WITH MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE IS THAT IF YOU GET THEM NEUTERED, THAT LOT, PARTICULARLY MALE DOGS, A LOT OF TIMES THAT MAKES THEM EASIER TO DEAL WITH.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS CONSIDER WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT WHO GETS, WHAT, WHEN THAT IS TRUE DOGS THAT ROAM AND GET OUT.

IF, IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, NEUTERED, THEN THEY HAVE A LESS TENDENCY TO ROME.

UH, THOSE HORMONE LEVELS.

IT DOES TAKE A WHILE.

IF I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK ALL THE VETS, BUT IT'S NOT INSTANTANEOUS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WILL LOWER THEIR, THEIR HORMONE LEVELS.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

CAUSE I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I KEEP THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, DOGS THAT GET STUCK THERE.

YEAH.

AND, AND THAT COULD HELP, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A POLICY ON THAT OR NOT.

YEAH.

AND, AND MOST OF THOSE LONG STAYS HAVE BEEN NEUTERED FOR MOST OF THEIR LENGTH OF STAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, CRAIG, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT JASON HAD SAID ABOUT THE $300,000 THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR OTHER THINGS OR THE OTHER THINGS.

OH, GIVE MEAN, UH, WE HAD FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAD IN OUR SYSTEM.

SOME OF IT WAS GRANT FUNDED AND SOME OF IT WAS OUR FUNDING THAT, UM, WAS FAR K9 GRASS TO IMPROVE OUR PLAY ARDS AND THAT MONEY WAS ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET.

BUT BECAUSE IT'S OVER THE LIMIT THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPROVE IT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE MONEY, IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL, TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND IS, SO IS ALL OF THAT 300,000 FOR CANINE GROUND? IT WON'T BE THAT COMPLETE AMOUNT.

UM, I THINK THIS FIRST ROUND IS LIKE $168,000 AND WHAT'S THE, THEN WHAT'S THE BALANCE FOR, I GUESS, WELL, THAT'S FUNDING.

WE DON'T HAVE YET AT THIS POINT WE CAN SPEND UP TO THAT.

BUT THIS YEAR WE ONLY HAD FUNDING TO SPEND WITH THE GRANT FUNDING AND OUR OFFENDING ONLY 168,000.

SO 168,000 FOR CANINE GRASS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

AND I WILL SAY, JUST ADD ON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, UM, OUR BILLING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH SUPPORTS, UH, THE ANIMALS ANIMAL CENTER, THEY WERE PROVIDED A COUPLE OF HUNDRED, I BELIEVE IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THEIR BUDGET FOR, FOR, FOR THE CANINE GRASS PROJECT.

CAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY DOING AN ALL OUR PLAY YARDS POSSIBLY EVEN NEEDED DOING IT IN THE SWEETS, CONSIDERING THE GRASS, THE CARPETING THAT WAS, THAT WAS INFRINGEMENT.

WE SAW THERE HAS BEEN RIPPED UP AND WHATNOT.

UM, YEAH, SO WE DID GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PURSES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE'D HAVE TO, IF WE NEEDED IT AGAIN, AS WE IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WEIGH OUT ALL THE OPTIONS IN ORDER TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PRIORITY FIRST.

WELL, I GUESS JUST ONE FOLLOW UP INTO THAT.

SO THEN COUNCIL, I GUESS CAN'T RE THE $300,000 TO TAKE CARE OF THE GENERATOR, WHICH I THINK MATA WAS KIND OF ASKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.

WELL, THAT THAT'S IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE NEED TO START ON THIS IMMEDIATELY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR US.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANKS.

L ELMER, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT.

WHEN WAS THE DECISION OR THE REQUEST MADE FOR THE ALLOCATION FOR THE 300,000 FOR ASTROTURF? GOSH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2019.

WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CANINE GRASS BACK THEN THE REQUESTS SUBMITTED AND FINALIZED.

UM, AT LEAST FROM AT LEAST WITHIN THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED APRIL, APRIL, UM, THROUGH DO BILLION TERRACES.

ONCE WE, UM, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF WITH THE EXISTING GRANT FUNDING THAT WE HAD.

UM, IT IS ONLY ABOUT $50,000.

UH, WE HAD TO GET COUNCIL APPROVAL FIRST.

YEAH.

SO THE GRANT FUND WAS FOR 50,000 FOR WHAT WAS THE SPECIFICATIONS ON THE GRANT FUNDING? OH, UH, IT WAS PART OF, UH, LIFESAVING, UM, AND PART OF THE LIFE-SAVING MADDIE'S FUND GRANT WE HAVE ABOUT $60,000 LEFT.

THE ASTROTURF WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY

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A LIFE-SAVING GRANT.

YES.

WHICH INCLUDES BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S THE KITTEN ANSWER HE WAS SPENDING FOR HIM.

WHEREAS ANYTHING ELSE DISCUSSED BEFORE DECISION WAS MADE ON THIS IN APRIL GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ANY OTHER PROGRAMS OR, UM, AREAS THAT COULD MAYBE HAVE USED SOME ENHANCEMENT OR SOME SUPPORT? WELL, WE, WE LOOKED AT, UH, WE USE FUNDING, UH, IMPROVE AND RE YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR OUR KITTEN NURSERY THAT WAS THERE.

DO YOU REMEMBER? IT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TITLE WAS.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FINAL COST OF THEM AND WHAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THAT.

UM, CAUSE THIS IS THE GRANT THAT HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE, THE CANDLE OF THE NEW CANDLE PROJECT, THE ARTS.

UM, SO THERE WAS PRECEDENCE TO USE SORT OF THAT FOR, FOR BUILDING, BUT THERE'S 50,000 OF THAT LEFT.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE REST DID NOT, WAS NOT FUNDED FROM THE GRANT, CORRECT? NO, NO.

YEAH, RIGHT RIGHT NOW REALLY WHAT WE GOT AUTHORIZATION ON, WHAT THE COUNCIL ITEM IS TO AUTHORIZE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE SPENT.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE CONTINGENT ON HOW WE, HOW WE GET, BUT WE AT LEAST HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION FROM COUNCIL TO, TO PAY FOR THE CANINE.

WELL, JUST I'M SPEAKING FROM MYSELF.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HELP WITH THE CRISIS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT SHELTER.

AND IT WAS UPSETTING TO HEAR THAT THAT MUCH MONEY HAD BEEN ASKED FOR AND ALLOCATED TO ASTROTURF WHEN THERE SO MANY OTHER AREAS THAT COULD USE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT RIGHT NOW.

AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AMONGST THE COMMISSION, THAT'S BEEN WORKING HARD TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE SHELTER.

AND WE HAD, WE'D MENTIONED THE CANINE GRASS, UH, NOT TO THE TUNE OF, OF WHAT, NOT TO THE SPECIFICS WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

NO, WE DID NOT.

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO.

SO THAT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT A DECISION WAS MADE OF THAT MAGNITUDE DURING THIS TIME, WITHOUT ANY INVOLVEMENT OR DISCUSSION, UM, FROM ANYONE ELSE THAT'S BEEN TRYING TO ASSIST AND HELP WITH THE PROBLEMS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FACING.

OKAY.

UH, JOANNE HAS A QUESTION.

UM, WELL THEY, UM, WORK ON THE PLAY ARTS, UM, FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT THE PLAY ARTS HAVE.

IT WILL, THEY WILL LEVEL THE PLILEY THAT LEVEL, THE SURFACE PUT IN SUBSURFACE AND LAYERS BEFORE THEY PUT THAT ON TOP.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A, SOMEONE WHO'S ALSO A VOLUNTEER DOG WALKER THERE THAT I APPRECIATE THE PROJECT.

UM, IT IS DANGEROUS OR DOGS AND VOLUNTEERS TO BE IN THOSE PLAY CARDS.

UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER RAIN, THEY'RE MUDDY, IT'S, UH, THERE'S MUD PRINTS THAT STAY IN THE MUD.

SO WHEN YOU GO TO TAKE A DOG IN THERE, UM, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT ORTHOPEDIC ISSUES, UM, WITH THE DOG SLIPPING, WITH THE, EVEN WHEN IT'S DRIED, IT'S HARD TO WALK ON.

UM, THE PLAYERS ARE BIG.

UM, THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE TREES THAT, UM, HAVE PIECES COME DOWN AND VOLUNTEERS HAVE SLID AND FALL FALLEN.

AND THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEARS IS, UH, SLIDING ON THE ROCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S THERE.

I THINK THAT THIS WILL HELP THE ANIMALS AND I THINK IT WILL HELP THE VOLUNTEERS.

AND I THINK IT'LL HELP THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYGROUP STAFF, BECAUSE THOSE PLAY CARDS ARE SO MUDDY, UM, AFTER ANY KIND OF A RAIN EVENT.

SO, UM, I IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

I KNOW THE CITY PAYS A LIVING WAGE ON TO A MINIMUM WITH LIVING WAGE, TO CONTRACTORS THAT BOOST THE PRICES UP A BIT.

AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY GIANT PLAY YARDS, BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE GOT SOME GRANT FUNDING TO TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING SAFER FOR US AND THE DOCS.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? UH, WHO IS THAT? LISA LISA, GO AHEAD.

YEAH, I GUESS THEN WHAT JOANNE SAYS, I APPRECIATE THAT POINT BECAUSE TO ME, IF IT'S SUCH A BENEFICIAL PROJECT THAT ALL THE MORE UNDERSCORES WHY WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED IT AS A COMMISSION, BUT EXCITED ABOUT IT, IF IT'S SO GREAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY, WHY WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO US TO DISCUSS, I MEAN, IF IT WAS THAT DIRE OF A PROBLEM OVER THERE WITH THE DRAINAGE, WHICH I APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THE OLD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OVER A FUEL TO LIKE FACILITY TOO.

I MEAN, I RECOGNIZE THE ISSUE AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT'S DANGEROUS, BUT ALL THE MORE REASON JUST TO BRING IT FORWARD AND DISCUSS AS A COMMISSION.

SO I KIND OF ECHO PALMER SENTIMENTS ON THAT.

ANY OTHER BRIAN, I'LL TRY TO BE A LITTLE LOUDER.

UM, WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE IT.

UM, MAYBE YOU DID, BUT WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY OR YESTERDAY SAYING THAT THE TRANSPORT,

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UH, VEHICLE WAS IN WAS TOTALED WAS IN AN ACCIDENT AND TOTALED.

UM, DO YOU GUYS KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE THAT TOOK THE TRANSPORT TO COLORADO, I GUESS THAT, THAT, THAT WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT AFTER ALL OF OUR DOGS HAD BEEN DELIVERED.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT, IS THAT OUR VEHICLE? IT WAS, UH, TRANSPORT THAT WE HIRE TO HAUL THE ANIMALS UP.

WE PAY.

SO IT'S, IT'S A THIRD PARTY.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD HERE, UH, JASON, THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR GIVING US THE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DID THIS TIME.

IT REALLY HELPS US SEE TRENDS BECAUSE I MEAN, I HAVE A READING ABOUT SHELTERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THERE ARE SIMILAR TRENDS AND THAT HELPS ME ANYWAY.

SEE HOW WE COMPARE.

SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

LOTTA ONE MORE COMMON.

SO, BECAUSE I GOT CONFUSED.

SO IS IT THE 300,000 THAT WENT TO COUNCIL UP TO 300,000 THAT HAS TO BE USED THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE GENERATORS NEXT FISCAL YEAR? OR IS IT, IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? I'M CONFUSED ON IT.

NO, THE, THE SPINNING THE MONEY FOR THE CANINE GRASS, UH, THAT WAS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE GENERATOR.

WE'VE GOT TO GET IT STARTED THIS FISCAL YEAR.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WASN'T SURE OF WHICH, WHICH WAS WHICH, AND THEN OF THE 168,000, IS THAT ALL TWO THINGS, HOW MANY YARDS IS THAT COVERING? IS THAT SIMPLY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND INSTALLATION OR IS IT ALSO GOING TO BE FOR THE MAINTENANCE? IT IS THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, IT HAS A WARRANTY THAT'LL BE COVERED WITH THAT, BUT, UM, THERE'S REALLY NO MAINTENANCE TO IT AND IT WILL BE COVERING THE NEW, BOTH NEW PLAY YARDS, AS WELL AS THE OLD PLAY YARDS THAT THE ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY USING RIGHT NOW ARE THE ROUGH AND ROWDY.

AND THEN THE NEW ONES THAT ARE OVER, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE ARTS AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

OKAY.

SO WILL IT BE COVERING THE PLAY YARD BETWEEN THE OUGHTS AND THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE THE HUGE RUNOFF OF WATER, THE HUGE LITTLE LAKE, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I WANT TO JOANNE WAS MENTIONING, IS IT GOING TO EVENTUALLY, BUT THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS THAT WOULD GET DONE FIRST.

SO THIS ONE'S NOT IN IT ON THE FIRST RUN.

IT IT'LL BE WHEN YOU GET THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THEN LET'S MOVE

[2c. Briefing on Expiration of Eviction Moratorium by representative of Austin Tenants Council and Austin Public Health.]

ON TO, UH, OUR BRIEFING.

SEE, IT'S A BRIEFING ON EXPIRATION OF EVICTION, MORATORIUM BY REPRESENTATIVE OF AUSTIN TENANT'S COUNCIL ON AUSTIN, PUBLIC HEALTH.

I THINK THAT'S LAURA LEFT WEDNESDAY.

YES.

YES.

GO AHEAD.

SURE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A COLLEAGUE, I BELIEVE FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING, WHO IS ALSO HERE TO PRESENT, UM, INFORMATION.

SO IT, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, OUR FOCUS REALLY IS ON TRYING TO ENSURE THAT FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS, UM, REMAIN HOUSED.

UM, SO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THERE ARE CASE MANAGEMENT AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FAMILIES.

UM, AS OF EARLIER TODAY, WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY FAMILIES, UM, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE EVICTION MORATORIUM THAT ARE SEEKING ASSISTANCE.

IN ADDITION, UM, TO KIND OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE WITH AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE ALSO FUND A VARIETY OF NONPROFITS TO ALSO PROVIDE SIMILAR ASSISTANCE TO, FOR INDIVIDUALS TO REMAIN STABLY HOUSED AND THAT THROUGH CAMP CATHOLIC CHARITIES, UM, AND SPEAKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THEY IDENTIFY THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER OPTIONS FOR FAMILIES IN THE EVENT THAT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION.

UM, AND ONE OF OUR FUNDED AGENCIES IS ALSO THE AUSTIN TENANT'S COUNCIL.

SO I'D LIKE MOLLY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ABOUT HER RESEARCH AND WHAT SHE'S LEARNED, UM, RELATED TO THE EVICTION MORATORIUM.

IT'S LAURA, CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? YEAH, JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND IN CITY HALL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, SO I JUST LOOKED INTO, UM, SOME OF OUR CALLS.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SERVICES.

WE HAVE A FAIR, WE HAVE A FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM AND A TENANT LANDLORD PROGRAM.

THE TENANT LANDLORD PROGRAM RECEIVES, UM, BETWEEN FIVE AND 600 CLIENT CALLS A MONTH, UM, UH, CLOSE TO FOUR BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 OF THOSE COME THROUGH OUR TELEPHONE

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COUNSELING LINE.

SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF, UM, VOLUME WE'RE SEEING WITH, UH, EVICTION CONCERNS AND WHETHER ANY OF THOSE FOLKS, UM, WITH EVICTION CONCERNS MENTIONED PETS.

UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE GATHER WITH EACH OF OUR CALLS, WE GATHER NAME, ADDRESS, UM, THE DATE AND A PROBLEM CODE.

AND SO 93 IS OUR PROBLEM CODE FOR POTENTIAL EVICTION RELATED TO, UH, COVID COVID-19 INCOME LOSS.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CODE FOR PETS, WHICH IS 66.

AND SO I JUST WENT TO LOOK THROUGH, UM, THAT THE PREVALENCE OF THESE PROBLEM CODES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

UM, SO JUNE THROUGH AUGUST, UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE NOTES.

AND SO I LOOKED THROUGH THE NOTES RELATED TO THOSE PROBLEM CODES OF, UH, 93, UH, POTENTIAL POTENTIAL EVICTION RELATED TO COVID IN 66, UM, PETS.

UH, AND SO WHAT I FOUND IS THAT WE GET, AS I MENTIONED, BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 CALLS, UM, JUST ON OUR TELEPHONE COUNSELING LINE AND MINE, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE CALLING, UM, WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR POTENTIAL EVICTION.

SO WE HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, CLOSE TO 30 IN JUNE, JULY WAS DOWN AUGUST.

UM, IT CAME BACK UP QUITE A BIT.

UM, AND WE NOTICED THAT EACH TIME THERE'S KIND OF, UH, WE PASS A STAGE WHERE SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS ARE LOOSENED A LITTLE BIT, UM, THAT WE START, WE SEE AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF CALLERS WHO ARE, UM, ARE, ARE, UH, WONDERING ABOUT EVICTION AND CONCERNED ABOUT EVICTION.

UM, WE DO HAVE CALLERS WHO HAVE CALLED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT POSSIBLE PET SURRENDER, BUT, UM, BUT NONE OF THOSE AND LOOKING UP THE NOTES, UM, OVERLAP WITH FOLKS WHO'VE CALLED ABOUT, UM, ABOUT EVICTION AND, UH, WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT FOLKS AREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BUT JUST THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT MENTIONING THOSE IN THE CONVERSATION, UM, WITH OUR HOUSING COUNSELORS.

UM, SO ANYWAY, THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE CHART OF, UM, OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT EVICTION.

AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, NO SLICE OF THIS IS A CONCERN THAT INVOLVES BOTH PETS AND EVICTION.

UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL CONCERNED THAT THERE MAY BE, UM, VERY LIKELY A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EVICTION AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE FUTURE OF THEIR PET AND MAY, UH, MAY NEED TO SEEK SHELTER FOR THEIR PET, UM, IF THEY ARE EVICTED.

AND SO ONE THING I WAS GOING TO OFFER IS THAT OUR HOUSING COUNSELORS BEGIN ASKING TENANTS AT RISK OF EVICTION ABOUT PETS WHO MIGHT BE IMPACTED AND, UM, IT CAN BE IN TRACKING SO THAT WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE SEEING WHEN THAT EVICTION PROTECTION, THE LOCAL ORDINANCES ARE FULLY LIFTED.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SHARE THE HOUSING COUNSELOR SHARE A NUMBER OF RESOURCES, UM, THAT RELATED TO OUR, OUR PARTNERS.

UM, SO EVERYTHING FROM RENT RELIEF TO, UH, TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID AND LEGAL REPRESENTATION.

SO WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE RESOURCES AND, UM, AND OUR, UM, PLANNING TO TALK WITHOUT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SORTS OF RESOURCES WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH FOLKS IF THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH EVICTION AND, UM, IN THEIR PET AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THAT INFORMATION AND PULLING THAT DATA FOR US.

THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CONNECT IT TO THE PETS AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO, ANY MATERIALS WE CAN SUPPORT, UH, GIVE YOU, UH, SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION.

PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK RYAN.

I WAS CURIOUS, UM, IN YOUR REPORT THAT THE NUMBERS WERE JUST A LOT LOWER THAN I EXPECTED, EVEN FROM, FROM NEEDING ASSISTANCE.

ARE YOU ABLE TO TRACK, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE GENERALLY ARE GETTING EVICTED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS A COMPARISON TO RELATIVE TO WHAT NUMBER ARE CALLING YOU? UM, WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I MEAN, THE LOCAL ORDINANCES HAD BEEN FAIRLY GOOD ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND ON RENT.

UM, SO I'M PART OF THE EVICTION SOLIDARITY NETWORK AND WE TRACK THE RATES OF EVICTION.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY LOW, UM, IN AUSTIN.

UM, AND THAT WE KNOW THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN HOUSTON AND DALLAS.

IN FACT, HOUSTON HAS MANY THOUSANDS OF FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN EVICTED BECAUSE OF FAILURE TO PAY RENT OR, UM, OR BEING BEHIND ON RENT.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID DO IS I REACHED

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OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE EVICTION SOLIDARITY NETWORK IN HOUSTON TO ASK IF THEY HAVE SEEN A PARALLEL KIND OF UPTICK OR SORE OF, UM, OF PETS THAT ARE SURRENDERED, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD SO MANY, UM, EVICTIONS AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ME FIGURES.

SO I HAVE CONTACTED SOMEONE ELSE WHO I GUESS, USED TO WORK FOR THAT PROTECTS HIS HOUSERS AND NOW WORKS FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

AND I'M TRYING TO GET, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IF PEOPLE, UM, IF COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE HAD A HIGH RATE OF EVICTIONS, UM, HAVE SEEN A LARGE NUMBER OF ANIMALS, UM, SURRENDERED TO, TO SHELTERS.

SO AS SOON AS I CAN GET THAT, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE, SHARE IT WITH OTHERS.

UM, AND THAT MIGHT ALSO GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON FOR AUSTIN.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPLIED A LOT OF MONEY TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR APARTMENTS.

AND WHAT I HEAR NATIONALLY IS A LOT OF THAT MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT.

HOW DOES TEXAS, UH, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO US LOCALLY IN TEXAS IN GENERAL? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN STILL RELY ON OR THEY MAY HELP US, OR IS THAT JUST LIKE NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL ANYMORE? WELL, ENOUGH FOR TD MAY WANT TO, UM, SPEAK TO THIS.

I MEAN, I DO KNOW THAT THAT, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY HAD A HARD TIME DISTRIBUTING FUNDS.

UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BEEN REALLY, UM, EFFECTIVE IN DISTRIBUTING THEIR RELIEF FUNDS, BUT NEVER TD.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.

OR FIRST OF ALL, ASK, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME CLEARLY? AND IF NOT, I'LL TURN OFF.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, SO OVERALL, UM, THERE ARE A FEW STATE WHO HAVE BEEN LISTED AS, UH, BEING INFECTED, GETTING THEIR FUNDS OUT THE DOOR AND THE STATE OF TEXAS OVERALL, WE HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE STATES LISTED, UM, AS LIKE BEING EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW.

UH, OF COURSE THAT DOES VARY WITHIN CITIES, COUNTIES, ET CETERA.

UM, AS MOLLY SHARED, WE, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I WORK IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR FUNDING OUT ON TIME.

UH, I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, UH, TEXTING WITH MY DIRECTOR, UH, ROSIE, TRUE LOVE TONIGHT, AND SHE WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, SHE HAD TO ATTEND ANOTHER MEETING, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS SHARING WITH HER IS, UM, WHEREABOUTS BROUGHT OUT OF MONEY.

I MEAN, SO THE NEED STILL EXISTS.

NUMBER ONE, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE ARE SEEING.

AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS.

UH, HAKA IS OUR VENDOR WHO IS HELPING US TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS.

AND AUSTIN HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE GETTING OUT THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

SO WE'RE ON ERA TO, UH, WHEREAS SOME AREAS ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING OUT THERE WE'RE ERA ONE FUNDS AND THE EVENING EVICTION PROTECTIONS HAVE, UH, REALLY HELPED EVICTION RATES IN THE, IN AUSTIN ARE RELATIVELY LOW COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

YES.

UH, RYAN HAS A QUESTION FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.

ARE, ARE THE LOCAL PROTECTIONS IN DANGER OF EXPIRING OR IN DANGER OF ILLEGAL CHALLENGE? LIKE THE FEDERAL PROTECTIONS RECENTLY WHERE YES, THEY ARE.

UM, THEY ARE EXPIRING AND, AND SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, AS, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP.

AND WE CHANGED OUR PROGRAM ACCORDINGLY.

UH, WE INITIALLY STARTED PRIORITIZING HOUSEHOLDS WITH FIVE MONTHS OF MORE OR RENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY FIRST DID.

UM, WE WERE PRIORITIZING ANYONE WHO OWED MORE THAN FIVE MONTHS OF RENT COULD, COULD HAVE BEEN, SO COULD HAVE BEEN EVICTED, RIGHT? THIS WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO ROLL BACK THE PROTECTION SLOWLY, BUT SURELY TO SEE LIKE, WHAT IS THE NEED? SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE HOUSEHOLDS.

NOW LET'S DOWN, WE'RE PRIORITIZING HOUSEHOLDS WITH THREE MONTHS OF MORE OF RENT, BUT THOSE WILL, THOSE PROTECTIONS WILL GO AWAY.

OCTOBER 1ST, THERE ARE MANY SMALL LANDLORDS, UM, THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EVICTION MORATORIUM AND THE PROTECTIONS, UM, SMALL AND LARGER LANDLORDS, BUT IT'S, IT'S MUCH HARDER FOR THE SMALL LANDLORDS WHO RELY ON, UM, RENTAL, THE RENTAL INCOME THAT THEY RECEIVE,

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UH, FOR THEIR EXISTENCE.

THAT'S FOR MANY PEOPLE, THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR SAVINGS.

THAT'S HOW THEY PAY FOR THEIR LIVING IN THEIR RETIREMENT AGE.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO MANY LETTERS, UM, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY LEADERSHIP HAVE, I MEAN, THERE THERE'S PRESSURE TO EAT IN THE PROTECTIONS AND, AND UNDERSTANDABLY, UNFORTUNATELY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.

UH, THIS COULD AFFECT US.

IT'S HARD TO TELL HOW MUCH AND WHEN, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KEEP OUR EYES ON IT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTS.

THANK YOU ALL.

OKAY.

LET'S GO ON TO,

[3a. Comparative Evaluations of Monthly Release Rates.]

UH, OLD BUSINESS.

SO COMPARATIVE EVALUATIONS, A MONTHLY RELEASE RATES.

DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, AS WE CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH DATA AND I APOLOGIZE STUFF THAT I CANNOT SEE YOU TONIGHT.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE ME.

UM, JASON, WILL YOU TELL US WHAT OUR FELINE LIBRARY LEASE RATE WAS FOR AUGUST? ALL RIGHT.

SORRY.

ONE SECOND.

UH, SO FOR NEONATES, WE HAD 93.8% FOR KITTENS.

WE WERE AT 96.8%.

AND FOR CATS, WE WERE AT 97.3%.

UM, WHAT'S THE OVERALL ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

I NEED TO FIND MY CALCULATOR.

I GET ABOUT 93%.

IF I USE THE DATA PORTAL.

DOES THAT ALIGN WITH MORE OR LESS WHAT YOU'VE GOT? YEAH, LET ME 59 MINUS 11.

YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MATH ON THE SPOT.

UH, USING THE NUMBERS.

I GOT 96.2, SO I DID 6 69 MINUS THE NUMBER OF CATS TOTAL THAT DIED MINUS THE NUMBER OF CATS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED.

SO IT'S 6 69 MINUS 11, MINUS 14.

AND I GET 96.2.

OKAY, COOL.

UM, I DO THIS TO YOU EVERY MONTH ASKING FOR THE FEELING LIVE RELEASE RATE, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY GOOD.

YOU HAVE IT HANDY.

IS THERE A REASON WE CAN'T JUST GET THIS ATTITUDE OR YOUR MONTHLY REPORT, LIKE WE'RE USED TO SEEING, UM, YEAH, I CAN PUT IT ON AS A, INTO THE NARRATIVE PIECE, JUST AS A BREAKDOWN.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, THANKS.

ANYTHING ELSE ON MONTHLY RELEASE RATES? OKAY.

UH, DO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ON THE AGENDA? WE CAN DO THAT LATER.

WE'LL DO IT AT THE END.

WE'LL DO AT THE END.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WE WANT TO KEEP IT ON FRIDAY.

OKAY.

SO A

[3b. Monthly Reporting of Data.]

MONTHLY REPORTING OF DATA.

YES, YES.

PALMER.

UM, I WANTED TO, UM, REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION ON THEIR DATA BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING IT.

AND, UM, THAT Y'ALL WERE HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH YOUR TECHNOLOGY PERSON THROUGH COVID.

AND THEN WE HAD WORKED WITH TRYING TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE THROUGH YOUR, UH, CHAMELEON SOFTWARE FOR SOMEONE TO HELP WITH IT.

I'VE GONE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, UH, THE SECTION 3, 1 27 REPORTING BY ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND THERE ARE 16 REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE, THAT NEED TO BE REPORTED ON.

AND WE ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING THREE, TWO ARE UNDETERMINED AND 11.

WE ARE NOT RECEIVING.

AND SO I WANTED TO PASS OUT TO EVERYONE.

UM, I'VE TAKEN NOTES ON THEM ON WHICH ONES WE'RE RECEIVING IN WHICH ONES WE AREN'T.

AND I WANTED TO ASK THAT WE, UM, TRY TO GET THIS RESOLVED ONCE AND FOR ALL, I'M TRYING TO GET THE DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND IT'S BEEN, BEEN ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE MONTHS AGO.

IT, YES, IT WAS ADDED ORDINANCE IN, UH, IN THE 2019.

AND, UH, RIGHT WHEN WE LOST OUR DEDICATED PROGRAMMER, THE APH, UH, WE EAT THE PROGRAMMER THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO US WHEN HE GOT RELEASED FROM THE COVID DUTIES.

UH, IT WAS MAKING EXCELLENT

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PROGRESS.

HE HAD DRAFTS OF ALL 16 REPORTS FOR US TO LOOK AT.

AND THERE WERE SOME ERRORS.

HE WAS WORKING WITH THE CHAMELEON FOLKS AND, UH, TO CORRECT SOME OF THESE.

AND WE WERE VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WOULD HAVE THEM VERY SHORTLY AND HE GOT RE PULLED TO GO BACK TO COVID AND WE ONLY GET HIM ONCE A WEEK.

IS IT ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A WEEK AT THIS POINT.

AND HAVE YOU, UH, HAVE YOU ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OF THE PEOPLE JASON, THAT YOU AND I WERE SPEAKING WITH REGARDING HELPING PULL THE DATA OUT OF CHAMELEON THAT WAS THERE? HAVE WE GONE THROUGH ANY OTHER CHANNELS TO TRY TO PRODUCE THIS DATA THERE? WE'RE WORKING WITH A CHAMELEON DIRECTLY? YES.

CAUSE HE HAD, WHEN HE GOT ON BOARD AND HE HAD TO LEARN CHAMELEON, SO HE'S BEEN PRETTY, UM, GOT TO KNOW THOSE COMEDIAN PROGRAM ARE FREE.

WELL, SO EVEN THE, THE REPORTS THAT WERE AUTOMATED FOR, FOR THE WORKING GROUP, LIKE HE GOT HLP TO REALLY HELP WRITE THOSE FOR HIM AS HE WAS LEARNING AND THEN TEACH HIM TO DO IT.

SO THAT WAY HE COULD, HE COULD, UH, MAINTAIN THEM AS NEEDED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST, WE WERE ABOUT IF I HAD TO PUT A PERCENTAGE ON IT, WE'RE LIKE 90% THERE.

WHY ARE WE NOT RECEIVING WHAT'S READY? BECAUSE THERE'S STILL DIFFERENT ITEMS, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT REPORTS OR THE DIFFERENT REPORTS, BECAUSE WE HA WE, IF I CAN TRY TO DESCRIBE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO YOU IS A, IT IS A WEBSITE THAT HAS THE 16 VARIOUS REPORTS ALL LAID OUT AND YOU WERE ABLE TO CLICK ON A USER, IS ABLE TO CLICK ON A REPORT AND THEN IT'LL PULL UP THE INFORMATION.

THERE, THERE ARE STILL SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE REPORTS ARE THEY'RE NOT WORKING OR IT'S, FOR SOME REASON, IT'S NOT PULLING THE, THE, THE INFORMATION FOR CERTAIN ITEMS. UH, WE WERE GOING OVER IT LAST, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE I OFFERED A DONE SOME MORE FEEDBACK, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, ON THIS REPORT, IT SAYS, WE HAVE A NEONATE PUPPY THAT DIED YET.

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THE LIVE APP RELEASE.

COULDN'T COULDN'T SOME OF THIS DATABASE SHARED WITH US, LIKE MANUAL, LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF DOING ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEETS.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE I'M GETTING THAT DATA FOR THE INFORMATION THAT'S WORKING.

I'M PULLING IT FROM THAT, INTO THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND TRYING TO BUILD THE REPORTS THERE.

UM, I THINK NOW WITH MOST OF THE REPORTS, AT LEAST THOSE THAT ARE WORKING, I COULD EXPORT THE DOCUMENTS THE WAY I WAS DOING WITH YOU FOR THE DOGS AND SHELTER, UH, REPORT THAT I WAS SENDING Y'ALL THAT HAD SORT OF THE LENGTH OF STAY THE BREED AND WHATNOT.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH, WITH THE INDIVIDUAL AND OUR CORPORATE IT DEPARTMENT TOMORROW TO SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED SOME HEALTH GUYS.

WE NEED TO GET THERE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THAT NOW FOR MONTHS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET HELP AND WE WERE GOING TO GET IT.

SO I KIND OF FEEL AT THIS POINT, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT COUNSEL HAS, UM, ASKED THAT WE RECEIVE.

I THINK THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUSH THIS BACK TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP GET WHAT WE NEED.

CAN I, SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

I WAS TRYING, UH, HOMER.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS A LOT THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY FORWARD.

THAT'S POSITIVE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT IS IN WITH IT'S IT'S OUR DUTY AS THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL IT'S ON 2, 1, 1 0 2 E ONE, WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL ON COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY CODE.

UM, AND SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S OUR DUTY TO LIKE FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT I WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT IN A POSITIVE WAY FORWARD.

UM, AND I, SO PALMER, YOU CAN TELL ME IF THIS IS A GOOD OR BAD IDEA, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS IF PERHAPS BY NEXT MONTH WE CAN, WE CAN ASK STAFF, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? AND THEN WE WRITE ONE LETTER TO COUNCIL THAT SAYS, THIS IS NOT BEING COMPLIED WITH.

IT WAS, UH, PASSED IN OCTOBER OF 2019 THAT THIS HAD TO BE A REQUIREMENT.

THEY WERE GIVEN 180 DAYS.

SO THAT WAS UNTIL APRIL 27TH, 2020.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE APRIL 27TH, 2020, THAT WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE.

UM, TRANSPARENCY IS ONE OF THE CITY.

COUNCIL'S BIG THINGS.

IT'S ONE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S BIG THINGS.

IT'S ONE OF THE AUDIT.

DEPARTMENT'S BIG THINGS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO DO THIS IN A WAY THAT'S POSITIVE THAT ACTUALLY GETS COMPLIANCE RATHER THAN IN A WAY THAT'S VINDICTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, RETRIBUTIVE AND TRYING TO HARM SOMEBODY.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GIVE STAFF A MONTH TO EITHER HAVE IT DONE OR TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED US TO ASK FOR COUNSEL SO THAT IT GETS DONE.

AND IF THAT IS, YOU NEED THAT EMPLOYEE 10 DAYS A MONTH INSTEAD OF FOUR OR 15 DAYS A MONTH.

AND SO FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO GET IN COMPLIANCE.

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AND WE WRAP THAT UP IN ONE LETTER TO COUNCIL, AND WE SAY, THIS IS WHAT STAFF IS TELLING US.

AND WE ASK THAT YOU DO THAT.

I, THAT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

I HAVEN'T TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT BEFOREHAND, BUT I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO GET THIS COMPLIANCE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE.

RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE THE DATA THAT WE ALL WANTED.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED.

WE ARE HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, EVERY MONTH, WE WERE WE'RE ON THE WAY THERE, BUT WE'RE NOW A YEAR AND A HALF PAST THE DUE DATE.

YEAH.

SO CAN WE ROLL TOGETHER THAT PACKAGE? CAN WE GIVE STAFF THE TIME THEY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH WHAT IT IS THEY NEED TO GET IT DONE.

AND THEN WE ASK FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO THROW OUT THERE AS MY IDEA, BRIAN AND I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.

MY CONCERN IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CHAMELEON AT PET HEALTH, THE OWNER OF CHAMELEON HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THESE REPORTS, GET HELP, DO THIS FOR FREE AND NO COST TO THE CITY.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY OPEN TICKETS OR, OR HELP REQUESTS REGARDING DATA REPORTING ONGOING.

UM, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, JAY JASON, DO YOU KNOW, ARE WE WORKING? WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SINCE THEY HAVE OFFERED TO DO THIS FOR FREE FOR US.

YES.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE ARE OUR STAFF PERSON ASSIGNED TO US, WORKS WITH THREE INDIVIDUALS ON, ON THIS, INCLUDING JASON, JASON CHAMELEON.

UM, ON, ON, ON TRYING TO GET SORT OF THESE, THESE THINGS IMPLEMENTED, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN HELPING US OUT SORT OF CONVERTED.

I THINK I'VE MENTIONED, I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT TO PALMER, UH, TAKING THE DATA FROM CHAMELEON AND PUTTING IT INTO A SYSTEM CALLED POWER BI, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN CHAMELEON UTILIZES AS WELL IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, IS TRYING TO UTILIZE AT LEAST FOR, FOR DATA GATHERING AND DATA SHARING.

SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WORKING TO TRY TO CONVERT THAT DATA FROM CHAMELEON INTO THIS POWER BI DATA.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT HELP HAS ALSO BEEN SORT OF BEEN REQUESTED IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THINGS AREN'T MISSED.

THINGS ARE BEING PULLED CORRECTLY.

SO WHEN THEY'VE SHARED IT WITH US AND WE WERE LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT PULLING THIS DATA.

I MEAN, IN THIS REPORT, IT SAYS LIKE THIS ANIMAL DIED AND YET WE'RE NOT SHOWING IT AS DIED OVER HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND FIX IT.

UM, THAT'S SORT OF BEEN WHERE WE WE'VE BEEN AT.

THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WITH TOMORROW'S MEETING, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A SOLID UPDATE ON WHAT ADDITIONAL PROGRESS NEEDS TO BE MAKING THEN WHAT DO Y'ALL? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT.

I MEAN, WE COULD FIND OUT A WAY TO TRY TO PUSH THIS THROUGH.

I KNOW I WOULD CAUSE THEN THAT'S ONE LAST REPORT I HAVE TO WRITE FOR Y'ALL.

SO I MEAN, IT, HOPEFULLY IT'S THERE AND ALSO TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S A PUBLIC FACING, UH, FORUMS WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST GO ONLINE AND, AND, AND PULL OUT THE DATA THAT THEY NEED THE WAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE USER-FRIENDLY THAN JUST GOING THROUGH THE OPEN DATA PORTAL AND TRY AND PULL THAT DATA.

SO, SO I THINK THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE TRYING TO SWITCH, UM, YOUR SYSTEM AND PROVIDE US THE REPORTS AT THE SAME TIME.

I REALLY LIKE WITH TRYING TO GET THE REPORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, AND YOU'VE BEEN GREAT ON TRYING TO HELP US.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH TWO DIFFERENT DATA SYSTEMS OR, OR DURING THIS CONVERSION, BUT I, I, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT AT LEAST I WAS TOLD THROUGH PET HEALTH THAT WE CAN GET THESE REPORTS THROUGH CHAMELEON, AND I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT NOW.

AND THEN ONCE YOU GET ALL THE KINKS WORKED OUT IN YOUR NEW SYSTEM, THEN YOU COULD START RUNNING THE REPORTS ON YOUR NEW SYSTEM.

BUT CONSIDERING THE NEW SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR NINE MONTHS, 10 MONTHS, AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE KINKS WORKED OUT.

I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WAITING UNTIL THE KINKS ARE WORKED OUT TO START GETTING THE DATA THAT WE'RE MISSING ON THAT NEW SYSTEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT UNTIL IT'S FIXED ON THE NEW SYSTEM, WE RECEIVED THE DATA FROM THE OLD SYSTEM IN WHATEVER FORMAT WE HAVE TO PIECE IT TOGETHER.

ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS IS WITH CHAMELEON AND SOME OF THE REPORTS THAT WE REQUESTING THE DATA IS NOT THERE IN A WAY THAT CHAMELEON CAN PULL IT.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WITH CHAMELEON, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO EXTRACT THAT DATA IN A WAY TO GENERATE THOSE REPORTS.

SO COULD YOU THEN GIVE US A SPECIFICS ON EACH REPORT THAT HAS BEEN, YOU'VE TALKED TO CHAMELEON ON AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE AND WHAT MAYBE A WORKAROUND MIGHT BE IN THE MEANTIME, CAN WE GET SOME FEEDBACK REGARDING WE CAN ASK, UH, THE APH, UH, GENTLEMEN TO PROVIDE THAT FOR US, THAT'D BE GREAT.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE NOT GETTING IT AND IT WOULD HELP TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND THAT WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD JUST ASK FOR IT FROM THE EXISTING SYSTEM INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE NEW SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY TRANSFERRED.

OTHERWISE I'M FINE.

IF WITH WHAT YOUR SUGGESTION IS, RYAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE COMMISSION HERE.

WHAT, UH, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD? I MEAN, IT IS OUR DUTY UNDER THE

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BYLAWS TO NOTIFY COUNCIL THAT THIS ISN'T HAPPENING.

HOW DO WE GET THERE? THAT'S MY JOANNE, I THINK.

JOANNE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH.

UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE RYAN'S THOUGHT THROUGH THIS.

AND UM, I THINK THAT, UM, KNOWING WHAT WE NEED AND THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW, UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO, UM, GIVE IT A MONTH AND THEN JUST BE READY TO GO, UM, WITH SOMETHING IF WE CAN'T, UM, GET THE DATA OUT, BUT HOPEFULLY, UM, IT'LL GIVE US A GOOD SHOT TO GET IT WITHIN THIS NEXT MONTH AND BE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO THANK YOU, RYAN, FOR THINKING THROUGH THAT, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAD EMOTION, BUT NO SECOND AND WE HAVE, THERE WAS A SECOND, SO, SO, UH, WELL THEN WE HAVE, SO WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

SO THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE.

THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I'M NOT SUBSTITUTING ANYTHING.

I WAS THROWING IT OUT INTO DISCUSSION TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE FELT, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW THAT TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE COUNCIL TODAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH IT? UM, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE PRODUCTIVE.

THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO.

AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE GET THE REPORTS.

AND SO I LIKE PALMER.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IN THE INTERIM, CAN WE JUST GET WHATEVER THERE IS? THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO WORK WITH AGAIN.

UM, SINCE WHEN YOU AND I LAST SPOKE, UM, THEY HAD SAID THEY WOULD HELP PROVIDE WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO WORK ON WHAT MIGHT WORK IN THE MEANTIME.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE START GETTING THIS STUFF FROM CHAMELEON INSTEAD OF WAITING WELL, OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ABOUT SAYING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL, BUT ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THAT NOW? DO WE, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I LIKED THE IDEA OF, OF, OF WORKING WITH, WITH THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING, BUT WE WANT TO GET IT SOLVED QUICKLY, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN USE US TO HELP YOU GET IT SOLVED.

WE WILL, WE CAN TELL COUNCIL THIS NEEDS TO BE SOLVED AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH, I DON'T WANT TO TELL THE COUNCIL.

THEY DON'T HAVE, I WANT TO TELL THE COUNCIL EXACTLY WHAT IT IS IS IT'S GOING TO SOLVE IT WITHIN A 30 OR 60 DAY PERIOD.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK.

I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE WE ARE NOW NEXT MONTH TO KNOW THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE RESOURCE, THAT THE CONNECTION THAT IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO CHAMELEON AND THAT THESE ARE PART OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET AND THAT WE'VE REQUESTED THEIR ASSISTANCE ON TRYING TO GET THE REPORTS FROM THE OLD SYSTEM.

NOW I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE LIKE EXHAUSTED THAT OPTION