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[1. Certification of Quorum – Quorum requirement is 12 members]

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ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, IT IS 2:01 PM AND WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

UM, AND HAS THERE BEEN ANYONE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY.

UH, NO ONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE DO NOT NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WE'LL

[4. Report from the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) Chair]

GO TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, REPORT FROM THE T CHAIR.

MS. MOYER.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M GONNA STAND BACK A LITTLE BIT.

UM, SINCE YOU LAST MEETING ON JUNE 13TH, THE ATTACK HAS MET ON JUNE 27TH, JULY 25TH AND AUGUST 23RD.

OUR PRIMARY MOCA FOCUS FOR THOSE MEETINGS HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM AND PROJECT READINESS FOR THE REGIONAL CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT STUDIES ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY IS DISCUSSION IN ACTION ON THE NON-FEDERAL LOCAL MATCH FOR CAMPO TO APPLY FOR A REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

GRANT, THE LEGISLATION CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THE PREFERENCE FOR REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLANS VERSUS INDIVIDUAL PLANS.

THE TAX SPENT TIME AT EACH OF ITS MEETINGS THIS SUMMER DISCUSSING THE SS FOUR A GRANT PROGRAM WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT CAMPO SHOULD SUBMIT FOR A REGIONAL PLAN WITH CO-APPLICANT AND PARTNERSHIP PARTICIPATION ROLES FOR THE MEMBERSHIP AGENCIES AT ITS LAST MEETING.

THE TAC ADOPTED A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION FOR THE USE OF TDCS FOR LOCAL MATCH.

SINCE OUR MEETING CAMPO STAFF HAS FOUND THAT TDCS ARE NOT AN ACCEPTABLE LOCAL MATCH WHILE NOT DISCUSSED AT THE TAC LEVEL.

I BELIEVE THE COMMITTEE WOULD SUPPORT SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION UNDER OPTION ONE AS THE BEST ALTERNATIVE IN ORDER TO MEET THE GRANT SUBMISSION DEADLINE.

I FEEL THAT I CAN SPEAK FOR THE TECH AND THANKING TRAVIS COUNTY IN DEVELOPING A PARTICIPATION CONCEPT FOR THE REGIONAL PLAN.

OUR SECOND ITEM OF FOCUS THIS SUMMER WAS THE PROCESS OF SELECTING CORRIDOR SEGMENTS FOR THE REGEN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.

AS A REMINDER, THERE ARE MORE REGIONAL CORRIDOR SEGMENTS THAN THERE IS FUNDING TO COMPLETE CLEARANCE OF THOSE STUDIES.

THOSE SEGMENTS, THE BYLAWS OF THE TECH REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THE POLICY BOARD FOR CREATION OF COMMITTEES.

THEREFORE THE TECH RESPECTFULLY REQUESTS, THE POLICY BOARD ALLOW THE CREATION OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO WORK WITH CAMPO STAFF ON THIS PROCESS.

AND THIS IS COVERED IN YOUR AGENDA UNDER, UNDER ITEM 11 B FINALLY, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UM, YOUR ITEM NUMBER NINE DISCUSSION ON THE 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN WAS PRESENTED TO THE TECH, THE TECH DISCUSSION REFLECTED CONCURRENCE WITH THE SUBMISSION OF THE 10 YEAR PLAN AS PROPOSED BY STAFF.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MOYER? I HAVE A COUPLE MEMBERS HERE.

OKAY.

MS. MOYER.

SO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.

I SAW THAT THERE WAS 5,000 PROPOSED INTERIM INTERIM BETWEEN US GETTING THIS OR WHENEVER WORKS BETWEEN YOU SAID THAT THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE FINE.

THAT WAS A COMPETENT RESOLUTION OR TO THIS.

WHAT FROM THAT, WHY DOES THAT GIVE YOU AS YOU WAS COUNCIL MEMBER? I THINK ASHLEY CAN ANSWER THAT BASED UPON SOME INFORMATION.

EXCELLENT.

THEY FOUND OUT, UM, THANK YOU, MADAM JAN.

SO, UM, UM, I TELL YOU WHAT, WHY DON'T WE, UM, IF, IF IT'S OKAY, WE CAN BRING THAT UP UNDER ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WHEN WE GET TO THAT.

IS THAT ALRIGHT WITH YOU? PERFECT.

OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM,

[5. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on June 13, 2022 Meeting Minutes]

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UM, MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 13TH MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION? SO, OKAY.

UM, I THINK I HEARD A SECOND FROM MAYOR MORGAN.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I HEARD THE FIRST MOTION FROM JUDGE OAKLEY.

OKAY.

MOTION.

I GOT .

OKAY.

UM, SO MOTION BY JUDGE OAKLEY SECOND BY, UH, MAYOR MORGAN, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES THEN BEING SEEN ALL IN FAVOR, ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY ITEM

[6. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action to Authorize CAMPO Executive Director to Begin Negotiation on Austin Avenue Corridor Study Contract]

NUMBER SIX, DISCUSS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE

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ACTION TO AUTHORIZE CAMPO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BEGIN TO GO NEGOTIATION ON AUSTIN AVENUE, CORRIDOR STUDY CONTRACT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO QUICK OVERVIEW ON THE, UM, THE STUDY.

THERE YOU GO.

AUSTIN AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY.

UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED, UH, MULTIMODAL CORRIDOR STUDY, UH, BETWEEN WITH CAMPO AND THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN TO, UH, HELP THE CITY DEVELOP MULTIMODAL, UH, SOLUTIONS ALONG AUSTIN AVENUE BETWEEN, UM, NORTHEAST INTERLOOP AND SOUTHEAST INTERLOOP THROUGH DOWNTOWN GEORGETOWN AND, AND OLD TOWN.

AND YOU CAN SEE SEVERAL DISTRICTS ALONG, UM, DIFFERENT UNIQUE DISTRICTS ALONG THE WAY ON THE CORRIDOR THERE.

UM, SO ON JULY 19TH, CAMPO ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR PLANNING SERVICES FOR THIS STUDY.

UH, WE RECEIVED THREE QUALIFYING RESPONSES.

UM, THE PROPOSALS WERE REVIEWED AND SCORED INDIVIDUALLY BY, UM, AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND USING OUR STANDARD CRITERIA, WHICH WAS ALSO DEFINED AND OF COURSE INCLUDED, UM, WITH THE RFP, THE AVERAGE SCORES FROM THAT EVALUATION COMMITTEE ARE ON THE SCREEN NOW.

UM, INTERVIEWS WERE NOT, UM, CONDUCTED DUE TO THE DIFFERENCE IN SCORES BETWEEN THE TOP RANK AND THE SECOND RANKED FIRM, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND HDR, THE TOP RANKED FIRM HAS BEEN SELECTED AS THE PREFERRED, UH, CONTRACT RECIPIENT.

SO STAFF REQUESTS, THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD AUTHORIZE CAMPO EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH THE TOP RANK CONSULTANT FIRM TO DEVELOP THE AUSTIN AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? AND BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER JONES HAS MAYOR MITCHELL PROXY.

UH, MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, I'M JUST GONNA QUESTION APPROVE.

OKAY.

MOTION BY MAYOR SHREDDER.

ANY, WHO'S GOT A SECOND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SECOND.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ALL IN FAVOR? UH, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

[7. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on Austin Avenue Corridor Study Interlocal Agreement (ILA)]

UM, AND THEN ITEM SEVEN, IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UM, ON THAT SAME TOPIC? YES.

SO THIS IS JUST, UH, A QUICK FOLLOW UP THE PREVIOUS ITEM.

THIS IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF GEORGETOWN, UM, FOR THE AUSTIN AVENUE STUDY, UM, THAT THE ILA ALLOWS FOR THE TRANSFER, UM, OF GEORGETOWN'S LOCAL COST SHARE TO CAMPO.

AND SO STAFF REQUESTS, THE BOARD AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH GEORGETOWN FOR THE AUSTIN AVENUE CORRIDOR STUDY MOTION BY MAYOR SHRADER SECOND BY MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER, MATE ANY, UM, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

NONE BEING SEEN ALL IN FAVOR I ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY

[8. Discussion and Take Appropriate Action on Local Match for Regional Safety Action Plan Grant Application for Safe Streets for All (SS4A) Program]

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, NOW TO THE TOPIC THAT WAS BROUGHT UP DURING THE TAP COMMENTS, UM, THE REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN APPLICATION FOR SAFE STREET GRANTS, UM, ASHBY, OR CHAD, WHO'S GONNA TAKE THIS ONE.

I'LL START.

GO AHEAD, CHAD.

YEAH.

UM, SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND JOBS ACT INCLUDES THE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL OUR SS FOUR, A GRANT PROGRAM TO FUND PLANS AND PROJECTS, UH, THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO IMPROVEMENTS IN SAFETY, UM, TO PURSUE IMPLEMENTATION FUNDING PROJECTS AND STRATEGIES MUST FIRST APPEAR IN A QUALIFYING SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ENCOURAGES REGIONALLY COORDINATED, UM, ACTION PLAN, GRANT APPLICATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH, UM, NPOS.

SO CAMPO HAS PREPARED THE MATERIALS NEEDED FOR A REGIONAL SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, OUR LOCAL JOINT APPLICANTS, SOME OF THE, UM, AGENCIES, UM, THAT, UM, UM, L LORI MENTIONED EARLIER, INCLUDING TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, AND THE INTENTION WAS THAT WE WOULD USE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS FOR OUR LOCAL MATCH SINCE, UM, ALMOST ALL OF THE FUNDING THAT AN MPO RECEIVES IS FEDERAL, AND WE CAN'T MATCH FEDERAL MONEY WITH FEDERAL MONEY FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM.

HOWEVER, WE LEARNED VERY LATE IN THE PROCESS, UM, AT, WE HAD ASKED WITHIN A DAY OR TWO OF THE, UM, GRANT BEING, UH, PUBLICIZED WHETHER TDCS WOULD BE ALLOWED AND, UH, ONLY GOT THE ANSWER ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THAT TDCS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED FOR THIS, UM, PROGRAM.

SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING HOW WE

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REACH THAT LOCAL MATCH OF 580,000 FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT COST OF 2.9, UH, MILLION DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE BROUGHT THE, THE ITEM HERE TODAY FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO IN LIEU OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS, WE HAVE THESE THREE, UM, POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO DISCUSS THE FIRST WOULD BE IN KIND SERVICES WHERE WE WOULD CITE THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM WORK AS AN IN KIND DONATION.

SO, UM, THESE ARE THE CORRIDOR STUDIES THAT WE'RE JUST NOW INITIATING THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

AND OF COURSE, SAFETY IS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THOSE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HANDLING RIGHT NOW IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR, UM, TAX SUBCOMMITTEE, WHERE FOR INSTANCE, UM, HOW MUCH DO WE CONSIDER SAFETY IN IDENTIFYING THE PROJECTS AND THEN PRIORITIZE INCLUDING THE PROJECT? SO SAFETY IS DEFINITELY, UH, PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE LOCAL OR STATE CONTRIBUTION.

SO, UH, DIRECT CONTRIBUTION FROM LOCAL JURISDICTIONS OR AGENCIES OF THE $580,000 MATCH.

AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION, WE HAVE EXPLORE NON SS FOUR, A FUNDING.

SO, UH, IN THIS CASE, CAMPO WOULD NOT PURSUE THIS REGIONAL PLAN THAT WE, UM, THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT HERE THAT DOES NOT, UH, PRECLUDE OTHER AGENCIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS, UH, SUBMITTING AN IMPLEMENTATION GRANT.

TRAVIS COUNTY HAS BEEN ON A SEPARATE TRACK TO IMPLEMENT, UH, TO, UM, TO REQUEST A PLANNING GRANT IN THE EVENT THAT TDCS WERE NOT ALLOWED.

SO TRAVIS COUNTY WOULD STILL GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND THEN CAMPO, WE WOULD GO AND LOOK FOR OTHER FUNDING, OTHER SAFETY FUNDING THAT WE COULD USE TO SUPPLEMENT OR TO HELP TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THOSE PLANS AND PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THESE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT, UM, WE HAVE, AND I THINK ASHLEY, YEAH, I THINK ASHBY, IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT.

THANKS CHAD.

SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, MATE, UM, WHEN THE NOTICE THAT ORIGINALLY CAME OUT FOR THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY, UM, OVER TWO MONTHS AGO, WE IMMEDIATELY ASKED, UH, US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IF THE USE OF TOTAL DEVELOPMENT CREDITS, UH, COULD BE USED AS THE MATCH.

UM, AND WHEN WE STAFF INITIALLY READ, UM, THROUGH THE PROGRAM, SINCE IT WAS CONSISTENT, UM, WITH, UM, WHAT WE CALL CATEGORY SEVEN FUNDING ON THE TECH STOCK SCALE.

SO THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BLOCK GRANT MONEY, WE THOUGHT THAT COULD BE, UM, AN ELIGIBLE USE OF, OF TOLL CREDITS, UM, WHAT WE FOUND OUT.

SO AS CHAD SAID, A WEEK OR SO AGO, WE WENT, WE NEVER HEARD FROM S D O T WE SENT OUR INQUIRY.

UM, SO WE WENT BACK AND CHECKED THE PAGE.

UM, THERE, UM, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WE CHECK IT AGAIN A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, AND THEN THEY HAD PUT THE RESPONSE IN THERE, BUT HADN'T TOLD US SO THE RESPONSE WAS NO.

AND, UM, THE REASON BEING, UH, APPARENTLY THIS PROGRAM WAS ACTUALLY NOT UNDER THE, UM, I A J BILL, AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS A STANDALONE PROGRAM, BUT IT WAS SORT OF ADVERTISED WITH THIS, BUT CAUSE IT WAS NOT UNDER TITLE 23 OR TITLE 49, UH, USC THEN THEREFORE IT COULD NOT, UM, WE COULD NOT USE TOTAL CREDITS AS THE MATCH.

SO THE, UM, THE DISCUSSION IS, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS LOCAL JURISDICTIONS COULD COME UP WITH THE, THE THAT'S THE SECOND OPTION, EITHER LOCAL JURISDICTIONS OR TEXT DOT SHOULD MAN NOT BE FALLING FROM HEAVEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

UM, OR THE, UM, IN KIND, BUT IT, IT, IT COULD BE OTHER PROJECTS YOU'VE KIND OF TEED UP THE CORRIDOR PROJECT AS AN OPTION, BUT I THINK THERE ARE SAFETY PROJECTS GOING ON IN JUST ABOUT EVERY COMMUNITY.

IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THAT ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

UM, THE REASON WE'RE SUGGESTING, UH, THE CORRIDORS PROGRAM IS BECAUSE THE CONSULTANTS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SITTING IN THE BUILDINGS EVERY MONTH AND IT'S EASY FOR US TO TRACK TO TRACK THAT CAUSE THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

YEAH.

I, I, MY, MY SLIGHT CONCERN WITH THAT IS I DON'T WANT TO CO-OPT THAT CORRIDOR STUDY BECAUSE THAT, I THINK THE BOARD ANTICIPATES THAT IS A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE LOOK THAN THIS VERY NARROWLY FOCUSED ISSUE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S, I DON'T WANT TO JUST TO COME UP WITH A $580,000 MATCH, I DON'T WANNA CO-OP TO 7 MILLION PROGRAM IF THAT'S, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE ON THE BOARD HAS THAT SAME CONCERN, BUT, UM, WE'VE WORKED A REALLY LONG TIME TO GET WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THESE CORRIDOR, BIGGER PICTURE CONCEPT STUDIES.

AND, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN, UM,

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ON, ON THAT REGARD, UM, COUNCIL, TIM ALSO HAD A QUESTION.

OKAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN, AND THEN MEL MAYOR PRO TIM JUST YOU'LL BE NEXT.

UH, MY, MY QUESTION REALLY, UH, HAS TO DO, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER THE PARAMETERS AROUND THE IN KIND, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN TO US IF WE NEEDED TO DESIGNATE THOSE, THOSE, OR ANY OTHER DOLLARS AS IN KIND DONATION OF SERVICES? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT, DOES THAT LIMIT HOW THOSE SERVICES HAVE TO BE SPENT? OR WHAT DOES IT MEAN? TELL US WHAT IT MEANS, BASICALLY WHAT IT MEANS IS WE WOULD CAPTURE THE EXPENSE, UH, THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, WITH, WITH THE EXISTING, UH, CONTRACT.

YEAH.

UH, THAT'S RELATED TO SAFETY.

AND WE WOULD JUST SHOW THAT, UH, TO S D O T UH, AS THE IN KIND MATCH.

SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CASH MOVING RECORD, BUT, BUT THE DEFINITION OF RELATED TO SAFETY, HOW STRINGENT IS THAT? AND DO WE DEFINE IT OR DO THEY DEFINE IT? ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE THEM DEFINING IT, BUT THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US HOW THEY WOULD DEFINE IT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S AN UNKNOWN AT MOMENT.

MM-HMM OKAY.

IS THAT WHERE YOUR CONCERN IS COMING FROM CHAIR.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IF, IF THEY TURN AROUND AND FURTHER DEFINE IT AND IT'S SOMETHING VERY NUANCED AND SPECIFIC, THEN WE ARE LEFT WITH EITHER GOING BACK TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS SAYING, ARE YOU IN THE LOCAL JURISDICTION DOING SAFETY PROJECTS? AND AGAIN, I, I THINK WE ALL ARE AT SOME LEVEL OR ANOTHER.

I WOULD SUSPECT EVERY SINGLE COUNTY AND CITY UP HERE IS WORKING ON A SAFETY PROJECT SOMEWHERE, BUT THAT DOES MAKE THE BOOKKEEPING MORE DIFFICULT, UM, ON THAT.

SO ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? OH, I'M SORRY.

MAYOR PRO TIM.

YOU WERE NEXT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION.

SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM FROM? WHAT, WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? IS THAT STATE MONEY OR FEDERAL MONEY? UM, THAT'S THE CONCESSION PAYMENT FOR ONE 30.

SO IS, IS STRINGS FREE MONEY OKAY.

SO ONE COULD ALSO SAY THAT WE WOULD, WE COULD REALLOCATE THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF SAYING IT WAS GOING TO THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM.

WE COULD SAY IT WAS GOING TO THE MATCH, AND THEN IF WE DON'T GET THE PROGRAM, THEN IT GOES BACK INTO THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM AND MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL MONIES FOR THE CORRIDORS, SINCE IT'S ELIGIBLE MONEY, IT WOULD REDUCE THE CORRIDORS TEMPORARILY, BUT, UM, PROVIDE A CLEARER MATCH.

YEAH.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HARD MONEY.

IT, IT, IT CAN BE IN, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES KIND OF MONEY, UM, IN KIND.

AND SO I, I WOULD HATE, AGAIN, WE HAVE WORKED FOR A DECADE TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE STUDYING CORRIDORS AND I DON'T WANT TO DEPLETE THAT.

UM, AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN MAY BE FOR NOTHING.

UM, AND IF, AND, AND IS, DO YOU ANTICIPATE A TIME OF HAVING MORE CLARITY ON WHAT, UM, IN KIND REALLY LOOKS LIKE? UH, I'M HOPING, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD KNOW WHAT, SO, UM, THE WAY I SEE, UM, PLAYING OUR CHAIR ON IF U S D O T DECIDES TO AWARD US WITH A GRANT, THEY WILL HAVE TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM.

AND MY GUESS IS WE WILL WORK THAT OUT, UM, BEFORE THE AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED.

AND SO WE WOULD KNOW IN ENOUGH TIME TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

THE OTHER THING, UM, I FORGOT TO MENTION IS, AND THIS WOULD FALL UNDER, I GUESS, UNDER ITEM TWO.

UM, SO, UM, JAMES BASS, WHO WAS THE, UM, UH, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR TEXT DOT AND THEN, UM, TEXT DOT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BEFORE MOVING OVER TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGIONAL MOBILITY AUTHORITY TOLD ME THAT THERE IS, UH, ANOTHER POT OF MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.

HERE'S THE MAN OF HEAVEN RIGHT THERE.

AND, UM, THIS IS, UH, IS, IS RELATED TO STATE HIGHWAY ONE 30.

UH, AGAIN, UM, IT'S NOT THE CONCESSION PAYMENT THAT WE, THAT WE'RE USING NOW.

APPARENTLY THERE'S AN ACCOUNT IN FUNDS, SIX SET ASIDE FOR THE CAMPER BOARD AND A PORTION OF THE TOLLS ON SEGMENTS FIVE AND SIX GO INTO THAT ACCOUNT EVERY YEAR FOR CAMPER'S USE.

I JUST FOUND OUT, UH, A WEEK OR SO AGO, CAUSE I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY DOCUMENTATION.

SO HE, JAMES BASS WAS SAYING, HE THOUGHT THERE WAS ABOUT 30 MILLION IN THE ACCOUNT.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO I'VE SENT AN EMAIL OVER TO TEXTILE FINANCE DIVISION ASKING ABOUT THE MONEY.

UM, I SENT THAT THURSDAY, I GOT A RESPONSE RIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING THE RESPONSE.

HE, HE MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION HE THOUGHT I MEANT CONCESSION PAYMENT AGAIN.

SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO HIM AGAIN AND SAY, NO, THIS IS NOT THE CONCESSION PAYMENT.

THIS IS A SEPARATE, A SEPARATE ITEM.

IF THAT TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE, THEN WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER, ANOTHER OPTION.

SO FOR THE SAKE OF THIS

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DISCUSSION, CUZ WE HAVE TO MAKE A, A DECISION TODAY, CUZ THIS IS DUE, UH, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY, LIKE TOMORROW, UM, WEDNESDAY DAY AFTER TOMORROW.

SO WE COULD, IF WE ARE, ARE STILL ELIGIBLE WITH BROAD ENOUGH LANGUAGE TO SAY THAT IT WILL BE INKIND SERVICES EITHER THROUGH CAMPO OR MEMBER ENTITIES, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT BEING PIGEONHOLED INTO JUST THE CAMPO DOLLARS.

AND IF, AND I IT'S A, IT'S A REAL LONG SHOT THAT WE EVEN GET THIS.

SO IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DISCUSSION FOR NOT.

UM, BUT THAT WAY WE'RE NOT LIMITED.

IF IT HAS TO BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC ON SAFETY RELATED THINGS, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO OUR NUMBER COMMUNITIES TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE YOU YOU REALLY DOING TOWARDS SAFETY? YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING AND SO TRUE.

UM, AND I KNOW TECH, DOC'S GOT A WHOLE SAFETY PROGRAM OF, YOU KNOW, SIGNALS AND ALL THAT KIND OF WORK.

SO I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD GO BACK.

IT WOULD JUST BE, MAKE BOOKKEEPING A LOT HARDER AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PATH FORWARD HERE.

UM, I ALSO THINK IF WE GO THAT, THAT ROUTE AND WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S SOMETHING TO THERE'S 30 MILLION, WE COULD ALWAYS GO BACK TO D O T AND SAY, HEY, WE FOUND SOME CASH.

I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, AMY, YOU HAD A QUESTION JUST CHAMBER ALSO.

THERE'S NO SEPARATE POD THAT, THAT PILE OF MONEY I MENTIONED THERE WAS FEDERAL MONEY.

THIS, THIS MONEY IS NOT CAUSE WE CAN'T MATCH FEDERAL WITH FEDERAL.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

SO POTENTIALLY YOU HAVE ANOTHER PRODUCT COMING IN.

WELL, I'M GONNA ASK AND SEE WHAT TEXT TELLS ME.

OKAY.

SO TO CLARIFY, I THINK AT LEAST WHAT I'M HEARING, UM, IS THERE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD SAYING THAT OUR LOCAL MATCH WOULD COME FROM IN-KIND SERVICES EITHER THROUGH, UM, THE, THE CAMPO WORK OR ITS MEMBER ENTITIES? IS THAT ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT? OKAY.

THEN I WILL MAKE THAT IN THE FORM OF EMOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? CLEAR AS MUD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR I ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY

[9. Discussion on 10-Year Transportation Plan]

ITEM NUMBER NINE.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, SO I'M RYAN COLLINS, I'M THE, UH, SHORT RANGE PLANNING MANAGER AND THIS ITEM TODAY, I JUST WANTED TO BRING IN INFORMATION ITEM.

WE ARE, UH, DEVELOPING A 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE APPROACH WE'RE TAKING, UH, AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND HOW IT FITS IN KIND OF INTO OUR LARGER PROGRAM.

SO, UM, BACK HOUSE BUILT 20.

I, I LOVE Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT, BUT IT WAS, UH, PASTED A FEW YEARS BACK, UM, REQUIRES REALLY A PERFORMANCE BASED, UH, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTIVE FOR TEXTILE TO, UH, USE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, UH, IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR 10 YEAR, UH, UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND PART OF THAT BILL, UM, WAS THAT NPOS ALSO DEVELOP A 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION REALLY JUST SAYS, CAN, UH, THAT NPOS DEVELOP A 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY, UM, ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED THIS, UH, TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO LOOK LIKE, UM, AND WHAT IT WAS FOR.

UM, AND WHAT WE REALLY REALIZED WHEN YOU LOOK BACK IN THE LEGISLATION IS THAT IT'S REALLY TIED TO, UH, KIND OF PROPS ONE AND SEVEN AND THE SPENDING OF STATE DOLLARS THAT GET ALLOCATED IN CATEGORIES TWO, FOUR AND 12.

AND THESE ARE THE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE UTP.

UM, AND SO THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THE, THIS INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS REALLY TO IT'S THERE TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT, UH, FOR THOSE REGIONAL PROJECTS THAT ARE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED IN THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UM, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE SELECTED BY TECH DOT, UH, THE DISTRICT AND THE COMMISSION.

UM, BUT WE ALSO, UH, ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE SELECTION OF THOSE PROJECTS, UH, PARTICULARLY CATEGORY TWO.

UM, BUT, UH, THIS REALLY THIS PLAN, UM, WHAT WE'VE REALIZED IS, UH, REALLY TO FORMALIZE OUR SUPPORT, UM, OF THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH IT.

UH, WE WE'VE, UH, DECIDED TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, UM, I THINK EVERYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT I REALLY JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS IS GONNA BE, UH, OUR TENURE PLAN.

WE'LL, UH, BRING A DRAFT BACK, UH, TO THE POLICY BOARD, UM, AT THE NEXT POLICY BOARD MEETING.

AND, UH, IT'S GONNA INCLUDE THE INDIVIDUALLY LISTED PRODUCTS IN THE UTP.

UH, WE'RE ALSO GONNA UPDATE IT ANNUALLY, UM, ALONG WITH THE SCHEDULE FOR THE UTP.

UM, SO TALKING ABOUT THE UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, UH, I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT, UH, TECH SAW THE COMMISSION DID ADOPT THE

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TENURE, UH, UH, PLANNING DOCUMENTATION.

UM, IF ANYONE'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT IS THEIR 10 YEAR, UH, PLANNING DOCUMENT AND IT AUTHORIZES PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.

UM, UH, IT'S CALLED DEVELOP AUTHORITY FOR YEARS, UH, FIVE THROUGH 10, AND THEN ANYTHING THAT'S IN, UH, THE FIRST YEARS GET, UH, FIRST FOUR YEARS HAVE CONSTRUCT AUTHORITY, BUT THE FUNDING LEVELS, THEY ESSENTIALLY, THE FUNDING LEVELS ARE BASED ON FORECASTS, UM, OF TRANSPORTATION REVENUE THAT'S POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE OVER THE 10 YEAR, UH, PERIOD.

SO EVERY YEAR WHEN THEY DO THE UPDATE, THEY DO A NEW FINANCIAL FORECAST, UH, FOR THE 10 YEARS.

AND THEN THEY UPDATE, UH, UH, THE PROJECT SELECTION THAT IS LISTED, UM, AND OF ACCORD TO STATE AND REGIONAL PRIORITIES.

AND SO THE, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION DOES AUTHORIZE, UH, ALL OF THE FUNDING S EVERY YEAR.

UM, THERE'S 12 TOTAL CATEGORIES.

UM, THEY AUTHORIZE THE DISTRIBUTION AND THEN FUNDING ALL SPECIFIC PROJECTS, WHICH WILL BE LISTED IN OUR 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

SO THAT'S THE APPROACH WE'RE TAKING.

IT'S REALLY GONNA SUPPORT THE SELECTION OF PROJECTS AND CATEGORIES TWO FOR AND 12.

UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THAT BROUGHT BACK TO Y'ALL NEXT MONTH.

UM, I DID WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW THAT DOES SLOT IN THE, UH, 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

AGAIN, IS A STATE REQUIREMENT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA UPDATE THAT ANNUALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UTP.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT A LONG RANGE PLAN AND THEN THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, UM, THAT, UH, OUTLINES THE FIRST FOUR YEARS, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DOES OVERLAP WITH THE FIRST, UH, FOUR YEARS OF THE UTP AND OUR TENURE PLAN.

UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING IS ACTUALLY ALLOCATED.

SO OUR TENURE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ISN'T GOING TO ALLOCATE FUNDING.

UM, IT'S REALLY JUST GONNA FORMALIZE THE SUPPORT OF PROJECT SELECTION, CUZ WE DO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT ON A REGULAR BASIS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, DEVELOPING THE UTP IS A, UH, ANNUAL PROCESS.

IT TAKES ALL YEAR, THEY BASICALLY ADOPT IT AND THEN START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE DOING.

UM, THAT'S OUR APPROACH.

UH, AND SO PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH THE COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, LIKE I SAID A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, BUT INFLATION HAS REALLY BEEN A, UH, A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.

UM, AND AS I'VE BEEN, UH, WANTING TO BRING THIS TO THE POLICY BOARD, WE FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO, UH, TALK ABOUT HOW INFLATION IS, UH, IMPACTING PROJECT SELECTION, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN THE UTP.

UM, SO THE ANNUAL UPDATE, UH, TO THE UTB, YOU KNOW, THEY BRING IN AN ADDITIONAL FORECAST YEAR AND TYPICALLY THAT ADDITIONAL FORECAST YEAR OF FUNDING IS ALLOCATED TO NEW PROJECTS.

SO IT ALLOWS YOU TO ADD SOME PROJECTS, UH, BUT THIS YEAR THAT FUNDING AVAILABILITY WAS SEVERELY IMPACTED BY INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.

UM, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INFLATION IN EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT HOW IT'S IMPACTING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN OUR REGION, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPLY CHAIN, DISRUPTIONS, LABOR, AND MATERIALS, EVERYTHING'S GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE.

AND SO THAT HAS REALLY IMPACTED, UM, OUR ABILITY TO, UH, SCHEDULE IN NEW PROJECTS OVER THAT 10 YEAR, TIME PERIOD.

UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THERE, YOU'VE GOT THE STATEWIDE BID ESTIMATE.

UM, THESE ARE THE, UH, MONTHLY WEDDINGS AND THE INCREASE YOU SEE ARE THE, SO WE HAVE OUR, OBVIOUSLY OUR PROJECT ESTIMATES AND THEN, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES BID ON THESE PROJECTS AND THE BIDS HAVE BEEN COMING IN WELL ABOVE WHAT THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COST IS.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE STATEWIDE UP THERE, UH, FOR MAY, JUNE AND JULY.

UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY VARY, UM, BUT IT'S BEEN PARTICULARLY HARD FOR OUR REGION AND PARTICULARLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPACTFUL FOR THE LARGER, MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WITH THE LARGER PROJECTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE CAPITAL EXPRESS SOUTH AND NORTH PROJECTS, UM, HAD BIDS COME IN 45% AND 43% ABOVE, UH, THE ESTIMATED, UM, PROJECT COSTS.

SO, UM, ALMOST EVERY MAJOR PROJECT IN OUR REGION HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY INFLATION.

THIS ALSO INCLUDES, UH, SL 360.

I THINK WE HAD TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE INTERSECTION AT COURTYARD DRIVE.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE 180 3, THE FRONTAGE ROWS THAT ARE FUNDED THROUGH CATEGORY SEVEN, UM, THAT THE, THAT WILL LIKELY NEED AN ADJUSTMENT AS WELL.

UM, IT'S SCHEDULED TO LET, UH, SOMETIMES NEXT YEAR, UM, SO REALLY WANTED TO BRING THIS, UH, INFLATION DISCUSSION TO THE POLICY BOARD, JUST TO KNOW THAT IT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPACTING US.

UM, IT'S GONNA IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SCHEDULE NEW PROJECTS.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT DEFERRED PROJECTS, UH, PARTICULARLY IN CATEGORY SEVEN.

SO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WHEN WE LOOK TO REFUND THOSE PROJECTS, INFLATION WILL HAVE IMPACTED THOSE PROJECTS.

SO I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR OUR POLICY BOARD TO START THINKING ABOUT OF ARE WE GONNA MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TECH THAT THE STATE IS HAVING TO FILL IN THE GAP ON WITHIN CAPITAL EXPRESS SOUTH AND NORTH, THOSE DO HAVE SOME CATEGORY SEVEN, UH, POLICY, BOARD FUNDING ON IT, BUT THE STATE IS MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE ON THOSE, UH, ON THOSE INCREASES.

AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO NOTE, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, UNTIL THINGS KIND OF GET UNDER CONTROL.

UM, I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT NORMALLY, UH, THE INFLATION RATE THAT IT'S SCHEDULED INTO PROJECT DEVELOPMENT IS 4%.

AND SO IT'S BEEN MUCH HIGHER CLEARLY.

UM, SO JUST WANNA, UM, MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THAT.

AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE.

SO, AND, UM, I KNOW THAT'S

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KIND OF AN ASIDE FROM THE 10 YEAR PLAN, UM, BUT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, IF, IF I COULD, UM, AND I THINK TUCKER MM-HMM , UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT ON THE CAPITAL EXPRESS, UM, BECAUSE THOSE, IF I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ENGINEER ESTIMATES, THOSE ARE NOT OLD ESTIMATES, THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW ESTIMATES.

IT'S JUST, IT CAME IN THAT MUCH MORE ABOVE THE 350 MILLION ESTIMATES PROBABLY WERE A YEAR OLD, A YEAR OLD, BUT, BUT WHEN WE, WE'RE NOT TALKING FIVE YEARS OLD, POSSIBLY JUST A YEAR, A YEAR OLD AND, AND PROBABLY THE THREE 50, WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD EVEN AROUND THE TURN, THE BEGINNING OF NEW YEAR WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO BID THOSE, BUT THEY GOT DELAYED.

AND THE, UM, THE ESTIMATE FOR ON, ON SOUTH WAS THREE 50.

WE MADE UP THAT DIFFERENCE BY ADMINISTRATIVELY MOVING SOME MONEY AROUND.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO UNDER THE, THE RULES OF THE, UM, OF THE COMMISSION WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, TO DO THERE, BASED ON THE SOUTH ESTIMATE, WE INCREASED THE NORTH ESTIMATE TO ABOUT 500 MILLION.

AND, UH, AND IT CAME IN JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE THAT, ABOUT FIVE, OH, UH, WE HAD TO COVER ABOUT 6 MILLION HEATHER ON NORTH AFTER WE INCREASED THAT, UH, THE, THE, THE ESTIMATE ON THE ONE THAT OPENED UP IN SEVEN.

YEAH.

SO, SO WE DID INCREASE THE ESTIMATE ON NORTH AND CAME IN PRETTY MUCH ON TARGET, BUT JUST LOOKING BACK AT A YEAR AGO, IF WE COULD, WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN BIDS ON THESE WE'D, WE'D DECIDED, UH, HUNDRED MILLION HUNDRED HUNDREDS OF A COUPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO MOVE THE MONEY AROUND TO, TO COVER THAT.

AND NOW WHAT WE DID NOT MOVE WAS THE CATEGORY SEVEN MONEY THAT WAS, UH, THAT THIS BODY VOTED ON TWO YEARS AGO TO PUT ON CAPEX CENTRAL.

WE DID NOT MOVE ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD'VE HAD TO COME TO THIS BODY TO, TO MAKE THAT VOTE.

UH, SO WE MOVED AROUND CATEGORY TWO AND FOUR TO THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY WE HAD ON CENTRAL TO COVER THE, UH, THE OVERAGES ON NORTH AND SOUTH.

AND, UM, AND, UM, BUT WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE OUR ESTIMATES GOING FORWARD.

AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE UTP, WE HAVE SEVERAL BREAKOUT PROJECTS.

NOW WE'RE STARTING TO GET THAT, GETTING DOWN TO THAT LEVEL.

AND EACH OF THESE WILL BE LOOKED AT INDIVIDUALLY AND THE ESTIMATES WILL BE UPDATED.

OKAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPERIENCING THAT ON SOME OF THE BIDDING THAT WE'RE DOING FOR OUR PROJECTS AS WELL.

UM, AND, UH, BOTH ON ROAD RELATED THINGS AS WELL AS VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.

UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RYAN ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC? I GOT ONE.

YES, SIR.

SO RYAN LOOKING AT BOY, THIS THING IS LOVE.

UM, SO YOU GAVE , HEY, NO SMACK TALK TODAY ON THAT.

WE ALMOST WON SO I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT MAY, JUNE, JULY, AND I SEE THE JULY, OR JUNE'S THE OUTLIER, IS IT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO? CAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY DISSIMILAR NUMBER AS COMPARED TO THE OTHER TWO.

YEAH.

AND I, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

THAT WAS, THIS WAS PART OF THE, UH, INFORMATION I GOT FROM, UH, THE TP P FROM TEXTILE, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THE STATEWIDE NUMBERS ARE, YOU KNOW, LOWER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT PROJECTS, LESS COMPLEX PROJECTS ARE BEING LED PROBABLY.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'LL, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT FOLLOW UP.

WELL, I MEAN, JUST FROM A HOUSING PERSPECTIVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, CENTRAL TEXAS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACE.

SO I THINK WE'RE EXPERIENCING IT MORE HERE THAN EVEN STATEWIDE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MY QUESTION IS JUST, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THEN TO THE DEFERRED PROJECTS LIKE OUT OFFICE SIX 20 AND, UM, I, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO OVER THE NEXT, UM, YEAR? WELL, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE PROJECT SPONSORS WITH DEFERRED PROJECTS IS SPECIFICALLY WITH CATEGORY SEVEN.

UM, WE'VE GOT A FORM THAT THEY'RE GONNA FILL OUT AND PROVIDE US WITH THAT UPDATED INFORMATION, UPDATED ESTIMATES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF NUMBER WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE DEFERRED THE CATEGORY SEVEN PROJECTS, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 90 MILLION, UM, OF CATEGORY SEVEN FUNDING THAT WE NEED TO REFUND.

UM, AND THOSE ARE JUST THE, THE ESTIMATES THAT WE HAD BACK THEN, THIS WAS TWO YEARS AGO.

UM, AND THEY, THOSE ESTIMATES ARE ACTUALLY FROM FOUR YEARS AGO FROM 2018.

SO THEY WERE, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING THE, THE SPONSORS TO PROVIDE UPDATED ESTIMATES.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE HAD HERE, I THINK IS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THAT DIFFERENCE? UM, ASSUMING THESE ESTIMATES ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE MUCH HIGHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, CUZ THEY'RE DEFERRED FOR 90 MILLION, ARE WE LOOKING AT 140 MILLION THAT WE NEED TO REFUND CUZ THAT WILL IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO SCHEDULE OUT NEW PROJECTS, DO ANOTHER PROJECT CALL FOR NEW PROJECTS AS WELL.

SO, UM, I KNOW WE'VE GOT ONE IN TRAVIS COUNTY, I THINK PIERCE LANE, UM, WAS FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ONE'S DEFERRED AND IT WAS 22 MILLION, UM, IN 2018.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ESTIMATE WILL LOOK LIKE NOW.

SO THAT'S UH, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE SPONSORS DIRECTLY, UH, TO GET THOSE ESTIMATES AND YEAH, WE'LL SEE WHERE WE LAND.

OKAY.

JUST

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UM, FOR AGENDA PURPOSES WHILE THAT'S LOOSELY RELATED TO OUR TENURE PLAN, I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR OFF THE AGENDA.

UM, GOOD POINT.

I'M PLAYING PARALEGAL AGAIN.

TIM'S COUNCIL MEMBER.

JUST, JUST A QUICK QUESTION IS QUICK QUESTION.

THE TIMING TO BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US.

UM, WE PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS AND THEN I'LL GET BACK ON TOP.

YEAH, IT WAS.

I MEAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I MEAN, DID I JUST ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION TIME? THAT'S ALL IT WAS STAFF AND BRING THIS BACK PERHAPS AT THE NOVEMBER.

OKAY.

MEETING.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THE 10 YEAR TRANSPORTATION PLAN? I, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

YES.

IT'S CLA UM, ON, ON THE UTP, ON THE WEBSITE, UM, FOR THE 2023, IT'S SHOWING, UM, 429 MILLION OF CAP 12 INCREASE, WHICH I GUESS THEY JUST PUT IT ALL INTO ONE HERE, WHICH BRINGS, I GUESS I 35 CURRENTLY IN THE UTP TO 3.9 PLUS ANOTHER 300 MILLION, 4.2 BILLION.

IS THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK? I DON'T HAVE THAT MEMORIZED COMMISSIONER.

I'M NOT SURE I CAN LOOK AT IT WITH YOU AFTERWARDS.

HEATHER, CAN YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE'S ASKING ARE? WHAT LINE ADAM ARE YOU LOOKING AT IN THE UTP? EXACTLY.

CAUSE THE WE'VE BEEN MOVING MONIES OR MONEY AROUND ON THE, THE BREAKOUT PROJECTS, IF YOU WILL.

UM, AND THEY SHOULD TOTAL UP TO THE SAME.

THAT WAS ALWAYS AUTHORIZED FOR THE, FOR THE CORRIDOR.

UM, IT'S JUST PAGE 56 OF THE UTP THAT'S ONLINE, BUT IT'S, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THE 4 29 THAT'S SHOWN AS A CAP, 12 INCREASE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WAY YOU BROKE IT UP THERE BETWEEN THE BID AND THE, AND THE ESTIMATE, I DON'T KNOW, A HUNDRED FIFTEEN, A HUNDRED FIFTY THREE HUNDRED, CAUSE IT SAYS 4 29.

ARE YOU LOOKING AT CAPEX NORTH THE INCREASE TO IT FOR THE CAPITAL EXPRESS CENTRAL IT'S IT'S LONG, 10 BROKEN UP 10, B 10, B 10, A AND 10, B 10 AND 10 B, WHICH I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT THEY'RE BOTH CALLED CAPITAL EXPRESS CENTRAL.

ONE'S LISTED AT 1.5, 5 BILLION.

ONE'S LISTED AT 2.4 BILLION.

AND THEN SO WE HAD HAD SOME OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IS 300 MILLION.

WE HAD ADMINISTRATIVELY MOVED SOME MONEY, UH, KIND OF NORTH OF, OF CENTRAL.

AND WE BROUGHT THAT BACK.

AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY THAT MOVE RIGHT THERE.

UM, WE HAD, UH, IN AN EARLIER VERSION OF KIND OF OUR UTP ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS, WE PUT ABOUT WHAT WAS IT? OH, WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMED A, A BIGGER PROJECT UP, UM, IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, BUT WITH ALL THE INFLATION THAT WE'RE SEEING, WE HAD TO MOVE IT BACK TO CENTRAL.

YEAH.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO MAKE THESE NUMBERS SOMEHOW CORRELATE TO WHAT'S ON THE ACTUAL NEW TP THAT'S ONLINE, BUT YEAH, THESE ARE NORTH AND SOUTH THAT JUST, THAT JUST WENT TO, TO LETTING, UM, THOSE LINE ITEMS YOU SEE THERE FOR CENTRAL.

UH, BUT THEY DO ADD UP TO, TO THE TOTAL 4.9 THAT ORIGINALLY WAS AUTHORIZED.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CLEARS MY .

YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? UM, THAT ITEM.

OKAY.

[10. Executive Director’s Report on Transportation Planning Activities]

WE WILL MOVE ON THEN TO ITEM NUMBER 10, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

UM, THANK YOU MAN.

I'M CHAIR.

SO, UH, 10 A UH, THE TEXTILE SAFETY WORK GROUP HAS CONTINUED, UH, TO MEET.

WE ACTUALLY DID MEET THE, THE LAST MONTH CAUSE THERE WAS A CONFLICT WITH THE COMMISSION MEETING, UH, TIME.

UM, SO OUR LAST TWO MEETINGS TO HAVE SENATORED AROUND, UM, UM, POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE TO, UM, CREATE, UH, SAFETY PLANS.

UM, AND, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT, UH, THE COMMISSION, UH, GIVING EACH MPO IN THE STATE $50,000 TO DO A, TO DO A SAFETY PLAN.

WE, WE HAVE A SAFETY PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UM, UH, AS TO SOME OTHERS, UH, I DON'T KNOW QUITE WHERE THIS, WHERE THIS ITEM IS TODAY.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT, THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN ACTION, UH, AT THE COMMISSION MEETING LAST MONTH.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

UM, SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, WHERE, WHERE THAT ITEM IS.

WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH.

I'M HOPING THAT WILL GET DISCUSSED IN THE INTERIM.

UH, TECH.IS, UM, ABOUT TO KICK OFF A STATEWIDE SAFETY CAMPAIGN.

UH, AND, UM, WE, WE ON STAFF, WE'LL BE WORKING, UH, WITH THEM TO, UH, COORDINATE A, A SAFETY EDUCATION CAMPAIGN,

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UH, FOR OUR REGION, UH, AT THE SAME TIME.

AND, UM, UM, WE CAN ALSO WORK WITH ANY OF YOU AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THAT CAMPAIGN AS WELL.

SO WE CAN GET YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THAT AS, UH, WE, AS WE GET THAT, BUT THAT SHOULD BE THAT CAMPAIGN FOR THE STATE SHOULD BE KICKING OFF NEXT MONTH.

UM, THE TECH DOT REVENUE FORECASTING, UH, WORK GROUP.

UM, SO I'M ON THAT WORK GROUP AS WELL.

AND ONCE A YEAR WE MEET, UH, WE MET, UM, LAST MONTH, UH, AND WE, UM, BASICALLY CERTIFY THE FINANCIAL FORECAST THAT THE COMMISSION USES FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S UNIFIED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

SO NOT THE, NOT THE ONE THAT JUST GOT APPROVED TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT THE ONE THAT'LL GET APPROVED NEXT AUGUST IN 20 OF 23.

SO WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT, UH, ABOUT THAT.

SO, UM, BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS, UH, TECH.FINANCE DIVISION TELLS US, UM, WHAT THE REVENUE ESTIMATE IS AND THEY TELL US HOW THEY GOT TO THE REST OF THE REVENUE ESTIMATE.

UM, WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THIS TIME AROUND IS, UM, IN MY OPINION, THEY'VE GOTTEN, UH, EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE IN, IN THEIR REVENUE FORECASTING METHODOLOGY.

SO, UM, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR AT LEAST THE LAST THREE OR FOUR FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION BILLS.

IS THERE HAVE BEEN GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS INTO THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND TO KEEP THE, THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND SOLVENT.

UM, TEXTILE FINANCE DIVISION IS ASSUMING THAT AT THE END OF, OF THIS, UM, FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION BILL, WHICH IS ANOTHER FOUR, FOUR YEARS, THAT THERE WILL BE NO MORE GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS.

AND SO THAT NUMBER GOES TO ZERO.

UM, AND SO FOR THE LONG RANGE FORECAST, IT HAS AN IMPACT ON, ON THE FORECAST.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT WHEN THE, UM, FEDERAL BILL THAT WE'RE ON TRANSPORTATION BILL THAT WE'RE UNDER RIGHT NOW WAS PASSED THAT THERE WAS A FIX TO THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND INSOLVENCY ISSUE.

THERE WAS NOT, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

IT WAS NOT INCLUDED.

SO IF, UM, INDEED, UM, THERE ARE NO MORE GENERAL FUND TRANSFERS, UM, INTO THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND THAT IT GOES IN SOUTH.

SO, UM, SEEING THAT SO FAR, THERE'S BEEN NO FAILURE TO MOVE MONEY OVER, TO KEEP THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND, UH, GOING, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALISTIC TO SAY THAT NUMBER'S GOING TO GO TO ZERO.

UM, LIKE I ALSO DON'T THINK IS REALISTIC AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TEXT DOT HAS, HAS RESTRICTIONS THAT IT HAS TO DEAL WITH.

FOR EXAMPLE, PROPOSITIONS ONE IN SEVEN, WHEN THOSE BILLS, WHEN, WHEN THOSE PROPOSITIONS END, UH, IN THE EARLY, UH, LATE 2020S OR EARLY 2030S, THEY'RE NOT ASSUMING, UM, REVENUE PASSED THAT POINT CAUSE THE LEGISLATURE HAS NOT ACTED YET.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE ASSUMING, UM, THAT, BUT, UM, MY, MY CONCERN IS ESPECIALLY ON THE, ON THE PORTION OF IT, THAT THAT DEALS WITH THE FEDERAL, UH, GENERAL REVENUE FUND AND THE HIGHWAY TRUST FUND IS, UM, AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE EVERY YEAR AROUND JUNE, WHEN TECH STOP SORT OF, UM, UH, GOES THROUGH THE BOOKS AGAIN BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR END, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND, UH, A HALF OF BILLION OR SO, UH, THAT WE, THEY TOLD WE GOT TWO WEEKS TO SPEND THE MONEY, CAUSE THIS IS WHAT USED TO HAPPEN.

OKAY.

BEFORE WE ADJUSTED THE, UM, UM, THE METHODOLOGY FOR, UH, REVENUE AROUND FORECASTING.

AND IT SEEMS WE'VE GONE BACK, UH, IN THE OTHER DIRECTION AGAIN.

SO I'M TELLING YOU ALL THIS, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, UH, FOR, FOR THIS BODY AND FOR YOU AS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HAVE PROJECTS READY TO GO.

SO THAT, UM, IF WE, IF WE DO INDEED END UP GOING THROUGH THIS, THAT YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING READY TO GO AND YOU'RE NOT AT A LOSS.

YEAH.

AND JUST TO ECHO THAT, UM, THERE ARE OTHER NPOS IN THE STATE, UM, I THINK AMPO IS ONE OF 'EM THAT THEY FOCUS SOLELY ON FUNDING, CONSTRUCTION, READY PROJECTS.

UM, AND SO TO ECHO WHAT ASHBY IS SAYING, AND, AND, UM, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER BECKETT MIGHT BE THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERS THIS, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, TO ASHBY'S POINT, LITERALLY WE'D HAVE, UH, LESS THAN A MONTH TO MAKE A DECISION ON SPENDING SOME MONEY.

THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP FUNDING MOPAC THE WAY WE DID.

UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL TO USE OUR LOCAL DOLLARS TO GET PROJECTS ENGINEERED AND READY AND HAVE A QUEUE OF THOSE, BECAUSE IF THIS BECOMES THE NORM, RATHER THAN THE EXCEPTION, UH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS QUICKLY ON FUNDING PROJECTS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ASHBY ON ANY OF THOSE TOPICS? AND THEN I HAVE A, A LIST.

YEAH.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT, GO AHEAD.

ASHBY, CONTINUE ON.

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SO, UM, MOVING ON TO JUST SORT OF AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, UH, WE ARE REQUIRED UNDER FEDERAL LAW TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION REVIEW EVERY FIVE YEARS.

AND SO THAT, THAT CERTIFICATION REVIEW WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION WAS HELD ON JULY 26TH, UH, THROUGH 28TH.

UM, WE HAD A GOOD EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION, UH, WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS AND, UH, WE'RE WAITING THE REPORT FROM THEM, UH, ON, UH, THE CERTIFICATION OF OUR PLANNING PROCESS ON, UH, AUGUST 17TH, UH, CHAIR LONG.

AND I WERE ON A PANEL FOR THE ALISON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE'S REGIONAL MOBILITY SUMMIT.

AND WE WERE JOINED, UH, BY MY COUNTERPARTS FROM, UH, SAN ANTONIO AND, UM, THE CLEAN TEMPLE NPOS.

AND, UM, I THOUGHT WE HAD A REALLY GOOD SESSION, UH, AND WELL ATTENDED THERE ON AUGUST 27TH, UH, CHAIR LONG RECEIVED THE WOMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD FROM THE CENTRAL TEXAS CHAPTER OF, UH, WOMEN IN TRANSPORTATION, SEMINAR WTS THEN, UM, UH, CAREFUL STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THE TEXAS AUSTIN DISTRICT, UH, THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND OUR GENERAL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO ADVANCE THE WORK ON OUR QUARTERS PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DISTRICT OFFICE, UM, POTENTIAL WAYS TO SUPPLEMENT THE, UH, 7 MILLION THAT THIS, THIS BODY, UH, ALLOCATED TO THE EFFORT, UM, WITH, UM, POTENTIAL ACCESS TO A PORTION OF THE DISTRICT'S, UH, PEPS BUDGET AND, UH, TEXTILES CONSULTANTS.

UM, THEN THE, UH, SMART TRACK INITIATIVE, UH, THAT, UM, THIS BODY GOT A REPORT ON FROM THE DISTRICT OFFICE, UH, BACK IN JUNE, UH, HAS CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD AND, UH, IS TAKING SHAPE.

AND EXTERNAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED BY, UH, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS', UH, CENTER FOR TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH.

AND WE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, THIS PAST FRIDAY.

UM, SO MEMBERS OF THE GROUP INCLUDED REPRESENTATIVE FROM GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S OFFICE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, UH, LOCAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, ENTITIES LIKE CAPITAL METRO AND, AND, UH, CT RMA, UH, AND THEN IT TAKES OUT AWESOME DISTRICT AND CAMPUS STAFF, THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND, UM, UH, ACADEMIA.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, I AM WORKING WITH MY COUNTERPART IN SAN ANTONIO TO, UH, HAVE A JOINT MEETING OF OUR POLICY BOARDS IN EARLY DECEMBER.

UH, WE DO THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET JOINTLY FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO RECTIFY THAT THIS FALL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, ASHBY.

UM, I SEE A HAND UP DOWN THERE, MAYOR PRO TIM.

THANK YOU FIRST WELCOME.

CONGRATULATIONS.

UH THANK YOU.

UM, I WANTED TO JUST ASK AS WE, UM, WE HAD SPOKEN BRIEFLY ABOUT, UM, THE TECH STOCK COMMISSIONS MEETING AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THERE WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR COURTYARD, UM, TO DEAL WITH INFLATION.

UM, BUT THERE WAS ALSO SOME FUNDING FOR SIX 20 AND SINCE COMMISSIONER, UM, HOWARD HAD BROUGHT THAT UP, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO WHAT THAT FUNDING WAS OR, OR IF TUCKER, IF TUCKER COULD, AS PART OF THE UTP UPDATE, WE DID UPDATE DATE OUR ESTIMATE ON 360 IN WESTLAKE AND ADDED 9.2 MILLION OF THE CATEGORY TWO MONEY THAT WE HAD RECEIVED THIS COMING YEAR TO TOP OFF THE COURTYARD PROJECT.

SO THAT ONE WAS FUNDED.

WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THOSE PLANS READY, UM, TO, TO, UM, TO GO TO LET IN A FEW YEARS AND UPDATING THAT ESTIMATE, WE DID, UH, COME IN WITH SOME HIGHER PRICES THAT THAT'S WHERE THE 9.2 ON COURTYARD WAS, WAS, UM, WAS MOVED AS FAR AS SIX 20.

THOSE PROJECTS ARE STILL IN, IN THE DEFERMENT AND WE'LL LOOK FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES AS WE GET CATEGORY TWO, FOUR OR SEVEN IN FUTURE YEARS TO REFUND THOSE.

SO THEY'RE NOT FUNDED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT ON, UH, ON THOSE PROJECTS AND WORKING ON DESIGN.

I THINK WE'RE EVEN LOOKING AT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION ON THOSE, CUZ WE DO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEARANCE ON THEM AND WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITIES OF BK, THE LAKEWAY TO GET THOSE REFUNDED GREAT.

I I'M NOW REPRESENTING THAT AREA AND I'M LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THE NEEDS OVER THERE AND THERE THERE'S STRONG DEMAND FOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I AM REMI, UM, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, BUT TO WELCOME MATT HARRIS, UH, TO OUR BOARD, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER, UH, WE APPOINTED MATT TO THE CAP, METRO BOARD AND CAP METRO, UH, RETURNED THE FAVOR AND APPOINTED MATT BACK TO, UM, OUR BOARD.

SO MATT'S THE NEW TIER WELCOME.

HEY TERRY, THANK YOU.

YEAH, UP IS TALKING DOWN IS NOT SO WOW.

THIS IS SWITCH, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYONE HERE.

I GUESS I GET MY NAME PLATE WHEN I GET THE INITIATION OR SOMETHING.

UM, IF Y'ALL, HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, MAKE SURE

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YOU DO AFTER THE MEETING, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

AND WELCOME MATT.

UM, CHAIR, CHAIR, WARREN.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR ASH BE IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED MAYBE OR, UM, ON WHICH ITEM? HIS REPORT.

OH, OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

JUST ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT, WE SHOULD GET READY WITH LOCAL DOLLARS, GET LOCAL PROJECTS READY.

AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US SPENT THE SUMMER GOING TO OUR DIFFERENT COUNTY ASSOCIATIONS AND THEY ALL TOLD THE COUNTIES TO GET READY.

I'M SURE THE CITIES HEAR THE SAME THING TO GO AFTER THE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE TO THE LOCAL LEVEL.

AND I'M JUST, I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE HAD ONE CONVERSATION ABOUT FEDERAL DOLLARS, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAMPO CAN DO TO, UM, TO REALLY ASSIST THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT DOLLARS ARE ARE RIGHT.

FOR WHAT KINDS OF PROJECTS? IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL SORTA, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EXCITING TIME, BUT IT'S OVERWHELMING TO KNOW WHAT'S REAL.

UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOWARD.

SO THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IS YES.

SO AS THESE PROGRAMS ARE BEING, UM, SORT OF STOOD UP AND, AND ROLLED OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO COLLECT INFORMATION ON THAT AND WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT, UM, UM, BOTH THROUGH THIS BODY AND THROUGH T UM, SO THAT, UM, YOU HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.

UM, THE, THE DIFFICULTY WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS THESE ARE BRAND NEW PROGRAMS. UH THEY'RE THEY U S D O T ARE SHORT STAFFED, JUST LIKE WE ARE.

UM, AND SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF RUSHING GOING ON, BUT, BUT THINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY MOVING AS, AS FAST.

AND IN SOME, SOME CASES, DIRECTIONS ARE VERY UNCLEAR.

OKAY.

SO, UH, BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IS YES, WE, WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO, TO, UH, GIVE THAT OUT.

ONE THING I HAVE ASKED FOR, UM, FROM U S D O T UH, IS A SCHEDULE OF WHEN THEY THINK THEY, THEY MIGHT BE ROLLING, UH, ITEMS OUT.

AND THEN FOR THOSE THINGS THAT NEED TO GO THROUGH A RULEMAKING PROCESS TO TELL US WHAT, UH, WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE.

AND THEN WHEN THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THEM FOR RULE MAKING.

SO WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT THE SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE, AND WE CAN GET READY.

UM, OKAY.

READY FOR THOSE THINGS.

ONE, ONE OTHER THING I WILL SAY, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UM, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS MONEY IS, IS OUT THERE ON DISCRETIONARY SIDE, AND IT IS TRUE.

THERE IS NEW MONEY OUT THERE ON THE DISCRETIONARY SIDE, BUT WE'RE LOSING A LOT TO INFLATION.

AND SO THE BUYING POWER IS BEING, YOU KNOW, REDUCED QUICKLY.

ASH, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU ATTRIBUTE TO BEING LOST IN INFLATION? IT, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS GREATLY ON WHERE YOU ARE, BUT I, I WOULD TELL YOU AT LEAST 10%, IF NOT MORE THAN THAT, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN THAT.

IT'S PROBABLY 30, 40%.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CUZ CONSTRUCTION INFLATION IS EVEN GREATER THAN, YOU KNOW, GROCERIES.

WELL, AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONCERN, WHAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS BRINGING UP AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT READY, MADE PROJECTS, SHOVEL, READY, PROJECTS, GET THIS ENGINEERING.

BUT WHAT WE CONSISTENTLY HEAR, PARTICULARLY FROM THE SMALLER ENTITIES OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IS THAT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE MONEY OR THE CAPACITY TO GO AHEAD AND GET THESE THINGS WRONG.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, I MEAN, I KNOW, I MEAN, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT ON THE BOARD RIGHT HERE WITH THAT, BUT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING WE WANNA LOOK AT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THEM WHO TALK ABOUT THAT AS AN, AS AN INVISIBLE BARRIER TO ACTUALLY GET PROJECTS DONE.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A CONCERN I'M HEARING FROM MY COUNTERPARTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS, UM, THEIR SMALLER JURISDICTIONS EITHER DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO, TO PULL THE MONEY TOGETHER, TO HAVE SOMEBODY WRITE THE GRANT FOR THEM OR THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH A MATCH OR BOTH.

UM, AND SO, SO TRYING TO DO IS HELP D O T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE SMALLER AREAS AND RURAL AREAS GETTING LEFT BEHIND ON THIS MONEY.

ALL RIGHT.

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UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

UM, ITEM NUMBER 11 OUT ANNOUNCEMENTS, UM, ON ITEM 11, B UH, TODAY I'M ANNOUNCING AS BOARD CHAIR, UH, ACCORDING TO THE BYLAWS, I CAN APPOINT SUBCOMMITTEES, UM, AND I'M APPOINTING TWO TODAY.

ONE IS TO WORK AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, WITH THET SPECIFICALLY ON THE CORRIDORS STUDY, UM, TO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, UM, AND HAVE WE'VE EMAILED THOSE FOLKS AND THEY'VE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.

UM, AND THOSE MEMBERS WILL BE, UM, COLE KITTEN FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

CHARLIE WATTS FROM TRAVIS COUNTY WILL CALMLY FROM WHO'S WHO REPRESEN CALDWELL, SORRY.

UM, GREG HALEY BURN, I BELIEVE AMY ROBERTSON, BA DROP BOB DAY, UH, WILLIAMSON AND THEN TECH DOT.

WE HAVE A TECH DOT PERSON ON THERE RIGHT TOO.

YES.

YEAH.

HEATHER, YOU GOT VOLUNTEER IT'S HEATHER THAT'S.

UM, AND

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SO THESE ARE PEOPLE SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR EXPERTISE.

SO, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TEXT DOT, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S MORE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW THAT, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE, WE, WE WANT THAT PERSON NOT A DESIGNEE AND THEY'VE AGREED TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND, UH, AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A LONG TERM STANDING ONE, IT'S JUST KIND OF, UM, TO GET TO THE POINT TO, TO SHORE UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE, UM, TO CAMPO STAFF, AS WELL AS THE TECH THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK BIG PICTURE, NOT JUST AT THE IMMEDIATE HERE AND NOW SAFETY PROBLEMS, BUT LOOKING LONGER AT RIGHT OF WAY PRESERVATION, UH, BECAUSE IF WE AREN'T LOOKING AT THAT, UM, AND STAY SOLELY FOCUSED ON THE IMMEDIATE WE'LL MISS THE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO I THINK, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOCUS OF THIS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T, UM, FOCUS JUST ON THE TREES THAT WE LOOK AT THE FOREST.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, CAMPO WILL BE PARTNERING WITH TECH DOT, UM, IN RESEARCH RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND TECHNOLOGY.

THE SMART TRACK PROGRAM IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AIMED AT ADVANCING THE STATE OF THE STATE OF PRACTICE, THE STATE OF THE PRACTICE AND THE STATE OF THE ART IN AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, DATA SHARING, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND INTELLIGENT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND POLICY AND THE TECH DOT AUSTIN DISTRICT AND CAMPO STAFF HAVE REQUESTED AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE, UH, TECH TO PROVIDE TARGETED TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

AND ME RECOMMENDATIONS AGAIN, BACK TO THE FULL T AS WELL AS THAT OTHER SUBCOMMITTEE WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE FULL TACK.

UM, SO I AM, UM, ASKING THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS, UH, AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE CONFIRMED THEIR WILLINGNESS AT THIS POINT TO DO THIS.

UM, JIM DALE FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, ME MIGUEL AO FROM TEXT DOT GARY HU FROM THE CITY OF ROUND ROCK.

OH, I'M GONNA KILL THIS LAST NAME, STEPHAN, UM, FROM CAP.

UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THAT.

UH, STEPHAN FROM CAP METRO I DON'T EVEN WANNA TRY TO, UM, BUT TRACY BROWN FROM THE CTMA HEIDI WESTERFIELD ROSS FROM UT THANK YOU.

HEIDI'S HERE TODAY.

UM, AND BOB DAY FROM WILLIAMSON COUNTY TO THAT SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, AS WELL.

SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING VOLUNTOLD.

UH, BUT I, I, I THINK THOSE ARE TWO EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE INPUT TO THE T.

UM, AND THEN, UH, LASTLY, UH, YOU WILL BE GETTING, UM, FROM KIM, SHE I'LL ASK HER TO EMAIL OUT, UM, ASHBY'S EVALUATION, UH, THAT, UH, I WILL ASK AGAIN, YOU SUBMIT THAT BACK TO ME AND THERE'LL BE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE EMAIL, BUT IF YOU WOULD TAKE THE TIME TO FILL THAT OUT, IF YOU'RE BRAND NEW TO THE BOARD, DOUG, FEEL OBLIGATED TO DO THAT.

YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THEM, BUT, UM, FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN, PLEASE, UM, LOOK FOR AN EMAIL COMING AND THEN, UH, WE WILL GET TOGETHER WITH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND CONDUCT THAT REVIEW AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.

SO LOOK FOR THAT, UM, COMING OUT, UH, UH, STAY TUNED IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON THAT THE NEXT UHT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 26TH AND OUR NEXT POLICY BOARD MEETING WILL BE OCTOBER THE THIRD.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE END OF MY ANNOUNCEMENTS AS BE GONNA MISS ANYTHING.

NO.

OKAY.

SO MAYOR, UH, WE ARE ENDING, UH, ADJOURNING THIS MEETING AT THREE O'CLOCK YOU STAND ADJOURN.