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[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]

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PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, THE NOVEMBER 8TH MEETING, 2022 TO ORDER AT 6:10 PM UH, WE'LL START WITH, UM, ROLL CALL, AND I'M GONNA GO WITH THE, UH, FOLKS HERE ON THE DIAS.

UM, ON MY LEFT, WE'LL START LEFT.

UH, MY LEFT TO RIGHT.

UM, YOU HAVE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON HERE, YOUR CHAIR, CHAIR SHAW AND, UH, COMMISSIONER AAR HERE.

UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SHAY.

YES.

LET ME, UH, GO OVER TO THE VIRTUAL SPACE HERE.

WE'VE GOT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, JANNI POLITO PRESENT, UH, VICE CHAIR HEMPLE HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER COX HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER MUTO HERE.

COMMISSIONER FLORES HERE.

AND I SEE, UM, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, UH, SEE YOUR NAME THAT I DON'T SEE YOUR FACE.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET YOU ON THE SCREEN HERE SHORTLY AND GIMME ONE MOMENT WHERE, UM, SO WE ARE, UH, THAT BRINGS US TO, LET ME JUST GET COUNT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 10, UH, MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.

AND WHEN COMMISSIONER HOWARD COMES ON, THAT'LL MAKE IT 11.

OKAY.

UH, SO WANNA JUST QUICK NOTICE, WE'VE, UM, UH, WE HAVE GOT, UH, THIS IS A HYBRID MEETING, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN THE AUDIENCE AND VIRTUALLY AS WELL.

AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS ON THE DIAS AND PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY AS WELL.

AND, UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY HERE, AS WE GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA, SOMETIMES WE ARRANGE SOME OF THE ORDER THAT COULD HAPPEN.

UH, AND ONCE WE SETTLE ON THE ORDER OF THE ITEMS AND DECIDE WHAT'S ON CONSENT OR NOT, UM, THEN AT THAT TIME, IF YOUR ITEM IS NOT THE FIRST ONE, AND I THINK WE HAVE, LET ME JUST, UH, ROLL BACK.

WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ITEMS WHERE WE WILL DISCUSS WHETHER TO TAKE THE ITEMS UP THIS EVENING OR POSTPONE THOSE TO A ANOTHER DATE THAT WE WILL, UM, WE WILL IDENTIFY HERE THIS EVENING.

SO PLEASE WAIT ON THAT TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE ITEM WILL BE, UM, DISCUSSED THIS EVENING OR NOT.

UH, THEN WE'LL GET INTO, UM, WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE ORDER.

AND ONCE WE DO THAT, UM, YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST ITEM, UH, YOU CAN GO OUT TO THE ATRIUM.

YOU WILL GET AN EMAIL IF YOU'RE, IF YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, FROM MR. RIVERA, UH, LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THE ITEM'S ABOUT 10 TO 15 MINUTES OUT.

SO, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL OF YOUR TIME HERE IF YOU'RE NOT THE, UH, FIRST ITEM UP ON THE AGENDA.

SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE, LET ME SEE IF I'VE GOT THE LIST.

UM, I DON'T KNOW MR. RIVERA, I'M NOT SEEING THE, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE, UH,

[PUBLIC COMMUNICATION]

PUBLIC COMMUNICATION THIS EVENING.

SURE.

ON MY EMAIL.

OKAY.

UH, CHAIR, UM, HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH, UH, THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

SO WE BEGIN, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, CURTIS ROGERS.

THANK YOU, MS. ROGERS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THIS EVENING.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND HAPPY ELECTION NIGHT.

I KNOW PARTON COMES UP OFTEN AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK TO A SINGLE AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IT AND I WANTED TO SPEAK AS FAR AS THE LIST OF CITIES THAT HAVE NO LONGER REQUIRED PARKING.

I'M GONNA READ OFF THE LIST OF CITIES REALLY QUICKLY.

ALAMEDA, CALIFORNIA, ALMAR, NORTH CAROLINA, ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, BANDERA, TEXAS BASS TRIP, TEXAS, BRANSON, MISSOURI, BRIDGEPORT, CONNECTICUT, BUFFALO, NEW YORK, CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS, CANAND, DEUA, NEW YORK, CULVER CITY, CALIFORNIA, DOVER, NEW HAMPSHIRE, DUNWOODY, GEORGIA E-COURSE, MICHIGAN, EMERYVILLE, CALIFORNIA, HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT, HUDSON, NEW YORK, JACKSON, TENNESSEE, LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY.

MANONA, MICHIGAN.

MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA.

PORTLAND, OREGON, RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA, RIVER ROUGE, MICHIGAN, SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, SEABROOK, NEW HAMPSHIRE, SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, ST.

PAUL, MINNESOTA, AND WEST ALICE, WISCONSIN.

NOW, NONE OF THESE CITIES ARE MANDATING PARKING FOR THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES, BUT THEY ALL HAVE PARKING IS, PARKING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THEY'RE NOT BURDENING THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

THEY'RE NOT BURDENING THE HOMEOWNERS, THEY'RE NOT BURDENING THE BUILDERS SO THEY CAN BUILD MORE

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EFFICIENTLY AND MORE AFFORDABLY, AND THEY'RE NOT BURDENING THE SMALL BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN USE THEIR SPACE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

IT FEELS LIKE AUSTIN IS ALREADY LATE TO THIS PARTY.

I JUST REALLY DON'T WANT US TO BE LAST PARKING REFORM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WELL, NOW, WE'LL NOW HEAR FROM MR. STEWART HIRSCH CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS STUART HARRY HIRSCH.

AND FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS, LIKE MOST IN AUSTIN, I RENTED, I'VE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF A PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022, AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2022 FOR PARKING STANDARDS AND COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD IMPACT HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ON DESIGNATED COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTIES.

BUT I'VE SIGNED FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION BECAUSE WHAT IS NOT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA OR THE COUNCIL AGENDA IS A REQUIREMENT THAT THESE COMMERCIAL SITES COMPLY WITH SMART HOUSING STANDARDS.

SMART HOUSING IS NOT JUST THE OPPOSITE OF STUPID HOUSING.

IT STANDS FOR SAFE, MIXED INCOME, ACCESSIBLE, REASONABLY PRICED AND TRANSIT ORIENTED.

AND IT'S BEEN THE CITY POLICY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL SINCE APRIL 20TH, 2000.

UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SMART HOUSING, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO MEET THEN, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, AS MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVING ACCESS BECAUSE THE A IN SMART HOUSING STANDS FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND REQUIRES 10% OF THE UNITS TO BE ACCESSIBLE.

AND THAT ALSO AFFECTS THOSE OF US WHO ARE SENIORS WHO ALSO NEED SOME OF THE SAME FEATURES THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HAVE.

FURTHERMORE, IF YOU TALK ABOUT HOUSING IN TERMS OF BEING INCOME RESTRICTED, THEN YOU MISS THE, OUR PART OF SMART HOUSING, WHICH IS REASONABLY PRICED, WHICH MEANS NOT ONLY ARE THERE INCOME RESTRICTIONS IN TWO IN TERMS OF YOUR AFFORDABILITY, BUT THERE'S ALSO MAXIMUM RENTS AND MAXIMUM MORTGAGE.

UH, BUT THESE NEIGHBORS WOULD ALL BE EXCLUDED AS WELL IF THE SMART HOUSING REQUIREMENT CANNOT BE AN AMENDMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND I KNOW WHEN YOU'LL GET TO THAT LATER IN THE MEETING, YOU'LL GET SOME LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT.

THEN IT'S GOTTA BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH COMES OUT AS THE LAST ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO, CITY STAFF APPEARS TO SUPPORT AMENDMENT THAT MAKE COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES NEAR HIGHWAYS INELIGIBLE FOR REGULATORY RELIEF.

WHILE THIS MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE WHEN FEDERAL FUNDS FROM HUD ARE FUNDING SOURCES, THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE WHEN NON-FEDERAL FUNDS ARE USED TO INVEST IN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

I REPORTED TO WORK HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME 45 YEARS AGO LAST MONTH.

SO I'M SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE CHANGES IN FEDERAL AND CITY REGULATIONS.

AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THE 500 FOOT RULE WAS BASED ON WHAT WE DID IN THE LAST CENTURY AND SHOULDN'T BE WHAT WE DO IN THIS CENTURY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ONE, I HEAR FROM HIS MONICA GUZMAN COMMUNICATIONS FOR THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, CHAIR COMMISSIONER SHAW ESTEEM COMMISSIONERS HERE IN PERSON AND VIRTUALLY, I BELIEVE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER SPEAKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT CERTAINLY NOT WITH, AND BEFORE ANY OF Y'ALL, UH, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

I WISH I COULD SHOW THIS TO EVERYBODY WHO COULD SEE THIS.

YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE IT.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO REGISTERED, I OPPOSE THE FORMAT THAT YOU'RE BEING, THAT YOU'RE USING.

YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL, BUT I THINK IT STILL NEEDS TO BE HEARD.

ONE, IT LACKS LANGUAGE ACCESSIBILITY, ENGLISH ONLY EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL FORM STACK HAS ENGLISH AND SPANISH TWO, YOU ASK FOR OUR MAILING ADDRESS.

NOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I CAN'T COMPLAIN HAVING RUN FOR PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC OFFICE.

YOU HAVE TO KNOW MY ADDRESS.

HOWEVER, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

AND I'LL PUT IT PLAINLY, WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS OR THE CITY WHERE I GET MY MAIL? YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT DISTRICT I LIVE IN? ASK THAT QUESTION INSTEAD.

BUT PLEASE DON'T BE ASKING FOR PEOPLE'S MAILING ADDRESS BECAUSE THAT MAY SCARE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE THEIR MAILING ADDRESS IS MORE THAN OFTEN THEIR HOME ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE IMMIGRANT DOCUMENTED AND UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE REFUGEES THAT MAY SCARE THEM FROM SPEAKING UP EVEN WHEN THEY'RE EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT SOMETHING ON YOUR AGENDA.

THE OTHER IS, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SPEAK ON

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MORE THAN ONE ITEM.

I LOVED IT WHEN CITY COUNCIL FINALLY MADE IT BY HOLDING DOWN THE SHIFT OR CONTROL BUTTON, SELECTING MULTIPLE ITEMS. I HAD TO SUBMIT FOUR REGISTRATIONS FOR TONIGHT.

FOUR.

THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

THE OTHER THING I LOVE ABOUT THE CITY, ONE IS THE TOPIC BOX AT THE BOTTOM.

BECAUSE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ONE, I MAY BE IN FAVOR OF ONE THING BUT NOT ANOTHER.

NOW GRANTED, MULTIPLE REGISTRATIONS WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT, BUT IT'S STILL AN INCONVENIENCE.

USE A COMMENT BOX AT THE BOTTOM THAT WAY, IF I HAVE TO STATE FAVOR POSE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, I CAN DETAIL IT AT THE BOTTOM.

IT'D ALSO BE NICE TO HAVE A NEUTRAL OPTION BECAUSE I MAY NOT HAVE AN OPINION IN TERMS OF FOR OR AGAINST.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

SO AGAIN, PLEASE SERIOUSLY CONSIDER CHANGING THE FORMAT YOU USE TO MAKE IT MORE LANGUAGE ACCESSIBLE, MORE USER-FRIENDLY, AND HOPEFULLY DOES NOT LIMIT OR PREVENT PEOPLE FROM FEELING COMFORTABLE IN PARTICIPATING IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE OUT HERE FROM MS. CYNTHIA VASQUEZ.

WHAT'S GOING ON NOW? IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE WAS DURING THE SUMMER, AND I'M GONNA BRING IT BACK TO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

AND I AM DOWN WITH EVERYTHING MONICA SAID ABOUT THE PROCESS.

HOW ARE WE GONNA COME? OH, LET ME REMIND YOU WHO I AM.

I'M CYNTHIA VA CUZ I'VE BEEN DISPLACED OUT OF MY 78,702 NEIGHBORHOOD INTO 78,000 7 44, WHERE I NOW LIVE IN ONION CREEK PLANTATION OFF OF DIXIE ROAD.

SO THERE'S WORK THERE.

UM, BUT THE REGISTRATION PROCESS.

SO MY FAMILY IS TRYING TO, TRYING TO SAVE OUR LAST TWO IN THE EAST SIDE.

THEY'RE FALLING APART.

SO WHEN YOU ASK FOR MY MAILING ADDRESS, I'M NOT GONNA PUT IT ON THERE.

PEOPLE PASS BY OUR HOUSES, THEY CHECK OUT OUR YARDS, THEY START COMPLAINING TO CODE.

SO WHY WOULD I DIVULGE THAT INFORMATION HERE? SO PLEASE ADHERE TO SOME OF THE PRACTICES AND STANDARDS THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED BECAUSE THEY'RE HONORING THE INTEGRITY OF THE WORK AND THE RELENTLESS, RELENTLESS CONTINUOUS SHOWING UP OF ADVOCATING FOR THIS KIND OF SPACE.

WHERE'S THE INTEGRITY OF HONORING THE HISTORY AND, AND WORK OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MADE VULNERABLE IN OUR CITY? IF WE HAVE TO KEEP SHOWING UP JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IS WRONG ON ELECTION DAY.

UM, BUT YEAH, LET'S WORK ON THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS.

PRACTICE SOME OF THE STANDARDS IN OUR CITY THAT OUR CITY HAS ALREADY HONORED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

IF IT'S THE PRIVILEGE OF THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS SIGN UP JUST SECONDS AFTER.

UH, MS. UH, VASQUEZ, IF YOU, UH, IF WE COULD HEAR FROM MR. CONTU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS NAME'S MARIO CANTU.

UM, TODAY I'M SPEAKING ABOUT VOTING DURING LAND USE CHANGES.

HOW MANY OF Y'ALL REMEMBER THE US UM, GOING INTO IRAQ IN 2005? THERE WAS A PURPLE FINGER.

REMEMBER THAT PURPLE FINGER ALL OVER THE GLOBE? EVERYBODY SAW THAT.

IT'S CUZ A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE HAPPY TO VOTE.

OUR US MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES SO THAT THE ELECTIONS ARE DONE FAIRLY AND OPEN TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON.

TODAY AT TONIGHT'S PLANNING COMMISSION HAS AGREED, HAS, HAS ANGERED AND CONCERNED LOTS OF AUSTIN VOTERS BY HOLDING HEARINGS TONIGHT, MANY ARE PROTECTING RUNOFF ELECTIONS PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE US CHOOSE BETWEEN BEING ACTIVE IN THE RUNOFFS OR ATTENDING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

PEOPLE IN AUSTIN DON'T WANT TO ATTEND PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE REST OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER UNTIL THE END OF THE RUNOFFS.

IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN, POSTPONE HEARINGS TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE CHANGES TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS THE USE OF LAND UNTIL AFTER THE RUNOFFS, AND MAKE THE FINAL VERSIONS OF PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS OR RESOLUTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT LEAST TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THIS IS THE KEY SO THAT CITY STAFF AND THE PUBLIC CAN FOCUS ON CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND EXERCISING THE RIGHT TO VOTE HERE.

JUST THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.

HOW, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THE CITIZENS OF IRAQ HAD COMMISSIONERS LIKE YOU TONIGHT ON DAYS THAT THEY'RE VOTING FOR YOU? LAND CHANGES IN IRAQ, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME AND IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, CHANGE HOW PEOPLE

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LIVE AND EVERYTHING.

HOW WOULD THEY FEEL? AND SO THIS IS HOW, HOW WE FEEL AS WELL.

CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I'M, WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY PUBLIC, UH, COMMUNICATION SPEAKERS IN LATELY, AND SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE WE ARE HAVING SOME ENGAGEMENT DURING THAT PART OF THE AGENDA.

SO THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

UM, MOVING THROUGH OUR AGENDA, UH, TRYING TO GET THROUGH OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE HAVE, WELL, LET ME BACK UP ONE SECOND.

UH,

[Reading of the Agenda]

COMMISSIONER FLORES, ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THE FIRST READING THIS EVENING? YES, I AM.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL PUT ON THERE THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 25TH, 22, UH, MINUTES.

DID ANY, DID COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? UH, SEEING NONE, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE WE, UM, GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS, WE, WE ALL, UM, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS ON CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BEING ELECTION NIGHT.

UM, WE DO HAVE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON THE TWO CODE ITEMS, UM, AND WE'LL, UH, MOVE THROUGH THAT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

BUT I DO WANNA SAY WE ARE, WE HAVE TWO OTHER TIME PERIODS AVAILABLE TO US.

AND I'M GONNA GET A, UH, RAISE THE HANDS HERE TO TRY TO GET A FILL FOR OUR AVAILABILITY.

BUT, UH, WE HAVE FOUND OUT THAT WE WILL HAVE TIME IF WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONERS TO MEET ON 1115.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET ON 1129.

UH, THE ISSUE THERE IS COUNCIL REALLY WANTS THESE AMENDMENTS BACK TO THEM, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND THE COMPATIBILITY BACK TO THEM BY DECEMBER 1ST, 1129.

IF WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND, IT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE LEGAL ENOUGH TIME TO EVALUATE THOSE AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SHOULD, UM, SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO, UH, THAT IS CUTTING KIND OF CLOSE.

SO I, UH, REAL QUICKLY I'D LIKE TO GET A SHOW OF HANDS, UH, JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET QUORUM.

OF COURSE, ATTENDANCE LIKE WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS GOOD.

IT'S AT 11 FOLKS, UH, THAT WAY WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET, UH, PAST THINGS.

UH, SO REAL QUICK, UH, COMMISSIONERS JUST GONNA TAKE A, I KNOW THERE WAS A SURVEY EARLIER THAT ANDREW DID, BUT REAL ON THE DIAS.

UM, SO, UH, 1115 WAS A CONSENT ONLY IF WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING TO CONSIDER SOME OF THE CODE ITEMS. UH, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO THAT EVENING? UH, ON 1115.

OKAY.

UH, THOSE VIRTUALLY 1115, UH, FOR I'M LOOKING.

OKAY, SO THAT GIVES US NINE.

UM, OKAY.

QUICK.

ALL RIGHT, SO HOW ABOUT, UH, 1129? UH, THOSE ON THE DIAS FOR A SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON 1129 WHO IS AVAILABLE THAT EVENING? SO THOMPSON, SO THAT'S JUST TWO THOSE ON THE, UH, VIRTUAL.

SO ACTUALLY, UH, JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

UM, IT'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

UH, ONE MORE RAISE REAL QUICK ON THOSE VIRTUALLY.

LET ME JUST 1, 2, 3, 4.

I MEANT TO VOTE FOR THE 15TH.

I AM AVAILABLE.

SORRY.

YOU ARE AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

THE 15TH IS ACTUALLY LOOKING LIKE A BETTER DATE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW, WHO ARE WE MISSING THIS EVENING? UM, MR. RIVERA CHAIR COMMISSION LIAISON, VERA.

SO THE ONLY, UH, COMMISSIONER CURRENTLY ABSENT IS, UH, SCHNEIDER, BUT I UNDERSTAND OH YES.

HE WOULD STILL BE OUT, OUT OF THE COUNTRY AT THAT TIME.

YES.

SO THIS IS KIND OF REPRESENT, SO IT LOOKS LIKE 1115 IS GONNA BE A BETTER, UH, DAY FOR US CUZ IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE QUORUM ON THE 29TH BASED ON THE SHOW OF HANDS.

SO WHAT I,

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UM, PROPOSE THEN IS THAT WE, UM, WE, THIS IS WHAT I'M PROPOSING THAT I GOTTA GET, UH, WE'LL VOTE ON THIS, UH, LATER, IS WE, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR IT.

RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, JUST SO FOLKS KNOW, WE ALREADY HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, BUT, AND, AND WE HAD Q AND A, WE ARE READY TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

NOW, WE STILL MAY HAVE SPEAKERS ON THAT ITEM AND WE HAVE TO GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, BUT WE ALREADY CONDUCTED THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AND I THINK COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, BUT I THINK, UH, THAT'S ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP, UH, ON THE COMPATIBILITY, UH, AS WELL.

OF COURSE I HAVE TO HAVE, UM, UH, A VOTE FROM THE, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HERE, BUT THAT ONE I PROPOSE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE GET STARTED ON THAT.

UH, WE HEAR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE HERE THIS EVENING, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

AND THEN, UH, IF IT'S VOTED ON BY THE COMMISSION HERE, WE RETURN, UH, ON THE 15TH TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

UH, WE MAY NOT ALL AGREE WITH THAT, UH, TIMEFRAME, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE FOR THE COMPATIBILITY CODE AMENDMENTS.

UM, BUT I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO GET THOSE STARTED.

BUT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON THOSE TWO CODE ITEMS. AND WHAT'S THE THIRD, UM, MR. RIVERA, JUST CHAIR.

WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, ETON OKAY.

ON 24 THAT, UM, WE HAVE A SPEAKER REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT.

OKAY.

AND THAT ONE IF WE, OKAY.

RIGHT.

SO IF THAT DOES GET POSTPONED, UH, STA WHAT'S THE, WHAT IS STAFF, WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE THAT BACK? THEY WERE GOING TO, COUNCIL WANTED TO HEAR THAT ON THE FIRST AS WELL.

SO, UM, YOUR NEXT MEETING, UM, WOULD BE EITHER THE, UM, THE SPECIAL CALL OR NOT THE 15TH OR THE 29TH BECAUSE THIS ITEM WOULD GO TO COUNSEL ON DECEMBER 8TH.

UM, OTHER THAN THOSE DATES, YOUR NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING IS, UM, IN DECEMBER 13TH.

DECEMBER 13TH.

OKAY.

SO WE WOULD, THIS, WE WOULD'VE A VERY BUSY EVENING ON THE 15TH.

UM, BASED ON THE SHOW OF HANDS, THE 29TH IS ISN'T GONNA WORK FOR US.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE FORUM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WHEN THESE THINGS WILL BE, THEY ARE POSTPONED WHEN THEY'LL BE PUSHED.

GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONERS ARE SHERRY, WE ASK IF WE'RE POSTPONING SOMETHING THE 15TH THAT WE POSTPONED THE BOMB DISTRICT PLAN AS WELL.

YOU, UH, WAS THERE, WE HAD PULLED THAT, YOU HAD PULLED THAT FOR DISCUSSION, BUT IF WE WERE POSTPONING MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO POSTPONE IT AS WELL.

OKAY.

FAIR.

UM, COMMISSIONER THOMAS, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT AND THEN VOTE.

YEAH, WE'RE, I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING OUT OPTIONS, UH, GETTING A FEEL FOR WHEN WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS BASED ON A SHOW OF HANDS AND JUST LOOKING AT THE OPTIONS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WOULD POSTPONE SOME OF THESE TWO.

BUT OF COURSE, AGAIN, MY PREFERENCE IS TO GO AND GET STARTED AND HAVE THE SPEAKERS HERE THIS EVENING THAT ARE HERE.

BUT WE WILL GET TO THAT AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH THE DISCUSSION.

POSTPONEMENT ITEMS, WHICH THERE ARE THREE.

SO, UM, IS THAT CLEAR? SO, SO THE PROCESS IS DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

YES.

BUT, BUT WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THE HEARING.

IF WE WILL HAVE THE HEARING.

IF, UM, IF IT'S, YEAH, IF WE VOTE TO HEAR IT THIS EVENING, WE WILL START THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET A FIRST READING.

SORRY TO SLOW THINGS DOWN THERE.

COMMISSIONER FLORES, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A FIRST READING, PLEASE? YES.

OKAY.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE APPROVAL MINUTES.

ONE APPROVED THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 25TH, 2022, UM, TWO ZONING AND REZONING C 8 14, 20 21, 0 99, RODEO OAKS REDEVELOPMENT POD.

UM, THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION, POSTPONEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT REQUEST TO NOVEMBER 15TH.

CHAIR.

PERMISSION.

LADIES ON, UM, IF WE COULD PAUSE FOR A MINUTE.

UM, I'VE JUST BEEN, UH, LOGGED OUT OF, UH, THE TEAM'S, UH, PHONE TELECONFERENCE.

I'LL JUST, UH, TAKE A MINUTE.

OKAY.

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UM, HELLO MISS, THIS IS ANDREW VA ONTO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, COULD YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND, UH, TEST YOUR LINE, PLEASE? SELECT STAR SIX.

HI.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HI.

TESTING, TESTING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, I CAN HEAR YOU CHAIR.

WE'RE READY TO PROCEED.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER FLORES, GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, FOR TWO ZONING AND REZONING ON THE BRODY OAKS REDEVELOPMENT, PUT, UH, THAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT REQUEST TO NOVEMBER 15TH AND TWO, THREE, AND FOUR TO BE HEARD IN TANDEM.

AND THE MOTION MUST INCLUDE ALL THREE ITEMS. UH, SO NUMBER THREE IS C 14 R 8,133 RCA BRODY OAKS, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AMENDMENT.

AND ITEM FOUR IS BRODY OAKS REDEVELOPMENT SITE SPECIFIC SOS AMENDMENT.

UH, CODE AMENDMENT FOR SAVE OUR SPRINGS SOS ORDINANCES.

UM, FIVE IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 0 7 0.0 ONE TEN EIGHT ONE ZERO NEWMONT ROAD.

UM, THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 15TH, UH, SIX.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.01 1700 EAST SECOND STREET.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

SEVEN REZONING C 14 20 22 0 0 9 1 1700 EAST SECOND STREET.

UM, THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

EIGHT.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 1, 0 0.03.

HOLLY MIXED USE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH NINE.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 21 0 0 0 5 0.02 ON TOPS MULTIFAMILY.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH 10.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 2, 2 0.0 1, 4 0 6, AND 4 28 EAST ALPINE ROAD.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH, 11, REZONING C 14 20 22, 0 1, 0 1, 4 0 6, AND 4 28 ALPINE ROAD.

REZONING ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH 12.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 2 0 0.01 INDUSTRIAL BOULEVARD, ONTARIO LANE.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT 13.

PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 22 0 0 2 9 0.0 1 76 0 1 CAMERON ROAD.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH 14, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 9 4 76 0 1 CAMERON ROAD, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH, UH, 15 IS REZONING C 14 20 22 0 1, 11 BURNETT AND 83.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

16 REZONING C 14, 20 22 0 1, 41 12 AND WEST REZONING.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH, 17, REZONING C 14 20 22 0 2 0 3 RIVERSIDE AND VAAS.

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THIS ITEM IS UP FOR STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH, 18 REZONING C 14 20 22 0 2 1 9 0 9 MONTOPOLIS.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH 19.

SITE PLANS P 20 22 0 0 1 0 D T, THE ALLRIGHT PARKING.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

20 FINAL PLAT C 8 20 22 0 1.

47.0 A MAXWELL SUBDIVISION.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISAPPROVAL, UH, FOR REASONS PER EXHIBIT C 21 PLAT VACATION C 8 94 0 2 1 7 0.0 A KRAMER LANE 65, SECTION TWO RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT 10 BLOCK C PLAT VACATION.

THIS ITEM IS UP FOR CONSENT.

22 CODE AMENDMENT, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

UM, THIS ITEM IS UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AND WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION 23 CODE AMENDMENT COMPATIBILITY ON CORRIDORS.

THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT 24, POLICY PLAN, EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT POLICY PLAN.

THIS ITEM IS ALSO UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, POSTPONEMENT AND 25 IMAGINE AUSTIN AMENDMENT, PALM DISTRICT PLAN.

I BELIEVE WE SAID THIS WOULD ALSO BE DISCUSSION, UH, OR POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION, POSTPONEMENT, AND THEN ITEMS, UH OH.

I THINK THAT'S IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION ON AND STAFF IF THERE'S AN ISSUE ON, UH, PER COMMISSIONER ASARS REQUEST TO POSTPONE ITEM 25 TO DECEMBER, I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER 15TH.

ANY OPPOSITION FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.

UH, STEP IS, I'M JUST, ANY NEED FOR STEP CHAIR? OH, MR. THOMAS.

COULD, COULD WE TREAT THAT ONE THE SAME AND I MEAN, COULD WE HEAR THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT SO THAT YES, WE CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND IF WE HAVE TIME, I REMEMBER JUST IF WE, IF WE POSTPONE ALL THE STUFF TO THE 15TH AND THE 15TH IS A VERY BUSY, IT IS LATE NIGHT.

AND I THINK GOING TO, YOU KNOW, VERY LATE HOURS ALSO IS A, AN ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE AS WELL.

SO, OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER , I, IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SLATED FOR ACTION THAT WE WILL BE APPROVING IT OR IS IT JUST A BRIEFING ONLY ACTION? OKAY.

UM, I AM AMENABLE TO, IF WE DO END UP HAVING TIME THIS EVENING, UH, HEARING THE PRESENTATION AND WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TAKE ACTION OR NOT THIS EVENING.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND LEAVE IT ON, UH, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION.

RIGHT? YES, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, HONESTLY, IF WE ARE AGREEING TO POSTPONEMENT ON ITEMS, I WOULD WANT TO JUST HAVE THAT DONE TO SAY THAT WE WILL HEAR THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION TODAY.

UM, ANY, UH, ANY SET UH, ANY DISCUSSION THERE, ANYBODY IN AGREEMENT, UH, THAT WE'LL HEAR? GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER COX, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSENT AGENDA IS NOT THE VOTE FOR POSTPONEMENT ON THE COMPATIBILITY ITEM PALM DISTRICT.

I DON'T HAVE AN OPPOSITION TO, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND THEN ACTUALLY VOTE, CORRECT? YES.

UH, WELL, WE ARE ON ITEM, LET ME JUST GO BACK, JUST TO GIVE YOU ASSURANCES HERE ON ITEM, UH, 22 AND 23.

AND, UM, YES, THOSE TWO ARE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

AND, UM, IN ITEM 24 ON THE ETO, THAT IS ALSO, UM, A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE, WE'RE GONNA KNOCK ALL THOSE OUT RIGHT AFTER WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BUT ITEM 25, WHAT, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING IS WE, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UM, PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT NO, DO NOT TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING.

WE WILL TAKE ACTION ON NOVEMBER 15TH.

I'M SORRY, JUST TO CONFIRM ON THE , IF STAFF IS AMENABLE AND COMMISSIONERS ARE AVAILABLE, WHY DO WE NEED TO DO A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT? OR CAN WE AGREE NOW THAT WE WE WAS WANTING IT TO THE DATE THE STAFF SAID WOULD BE WORKABLE? UH, WHAT DATE IS, UH, CAN WE YEAH.

SHARE WHAT THAT, THAT YOU'RE POSTPONING TO? NOVEMBER 15TH?

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YEAH, JUST THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT.

UM, WE MAY END UP HAVING MORE TIME THIS EVENING, UH, THAN WE THINK.

SURE.

CHERYL, I'LL UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THESE IF WE CAN.

UH, WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THESE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENTS ARE GONNA PLAY OUT.

SO, UM, BUT THAT ONE IS ON DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

UH, LET'S SEE WHAT THE WILL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE WHEN WE PUT IT TO A VOTE.

UM, CHAIR COMMISSION.

LAY ON IN THERE IF WE, COULD I GO BACK TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? I JUST WANT TO, UH, CONFIRM THAT 19 IS A DISCUSSION ITEM AND NUMBER 20 IS WITHDRAWN.

YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SO 19 IS DISCUSSION AND 20 WITHDRAWN.

OKAY.

LET ME GO AND READ THIS AND PLEASE, UH, STOP ME IF I'M GETTING THIS WRONG.

OKAY.

SO REVIEWING THE CONSENTED AGENDA AGAIN, STARTING WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 25TH MINUTES.

UH, THEN WE HAVE ITEMS B TWO, I'M SORRY, TWO, THREE AND FOUR, UH, WHICH ARE POSTPONED TO NOVEMBER 15TH.

AND IT WILL BE HEARD IN TANDEM.

UH, AND NOTE HERE, MOTION MUST INCLUDE ALL THREE ITEMS. WE THEN HAVE ITEM, UH, FIVE, WHICH IS STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 15TH.

ITEM SIX IS ON CONSENT.

ITEM SEVEN IS ON CONSENT.

ITEM EIGHT, NEIGHBORHOOD TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM NINE, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 10, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 11, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 12, APPLICANT INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 13, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 14, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 15 IS ON CONSENT.

ITEM 16, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 17, STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH.

ITEM 18, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 13TH, 19, AS WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

UH, THAT SITE PLAN AT, UH, THE ALBRIGHT PARKING.

UH, ITEM 20 IS, UM, IS WITHDRAWN.

ITEM 21 IS ON CONSENT 22.

AS WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE'LL UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THIS CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

ITEM 23, CODE AMENDMENT.

UM, WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ITEM 24.

UH, WE WILL FOLLOW WITH THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

AND ITEM 25 IS, UM, IT IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, FROM COMMISSIONERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, CHAIR COMMISSION, LAY FERRIN.

THEN, UH, SPECIAL NOTES THAT ANY CASES, UH, BEING POSTED UPON TO NOVEMBER 15TH WILL BE AT 5:00 PM IN THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ROOM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, WE START A LITTLE EARLY AND JUST A, A NOTE THERE AND TELL ME IF IT'S STILL ACCURATE, MR. AEZ, WE'RE GOING TO START AT FIVE.

WE THEN WILL HAVE A BREAK TO ALLOW, UH, ZAP TO, UH, HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA ONLY MEETING.

AND THEN WE WILL RETURN, UH, RE ADJOURN AFTER THEY'RE COMPLETED.

IS THAT ACCURATE? CORRECT.

SHARON SPEAKING WITH, UH, THE CHAIR DESIGN PLAN COMMISSION, UM, SHE WAS AMIABLE TO, UM, ALLOWING THAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL HAVE A SHORT BREAK IN THE MIDDLE.

OKAY.

ALL

[Consent Agenda]

RIGHT.

SO, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, INCLUDING P OF THE MINUTES VICE CHAIR HEP BILL? OH, I THINK YOU, I THINK SHE'S MOTION FOR I'M MAKING THE MOTION TO YOU HAVE A SECOND.

YEAH.

UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY, SECOND CONSENT.

LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE ON CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, THE DI WE OF EVERYONE AND, UH, I, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S 11.

UH, THAT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

[22. Code Amendment: Residential in Commercial (Part 1 of 2)]

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON ITEM 22.

THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, WE'LL HEAR FROM, UH, MR. KUYA.

MISS KUYA SPEAKING TO THE POSTPONE AT ITEM 22.

MR. KU WILL HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES.

FOLLOW UP MY

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GUZMAN, UH, YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, MY NAME IS FRANCIS AKUA.

I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENCE OF DALLAS SPRINGS AND A CLIMATE RESILIENCE COMMUNITY LEAD ORGANIZER FOR GABA GO AUSTIN, BAMO AUSTIN.

I AM HERE TO ASK FOR POSTPONEMENT FOR, UH, ITEM 22, 23, AND 24.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SENDING NOTICES OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES, BUT I DID WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, IT IS ELECTIONS DAY AND PEOPLE ARE AT THE POLLS RIGHT NOW.

AND IN THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE GOT ONE SENTENCE EXPLANATION TO RESIDENTS OF THE CHANGES, IT'S INVALID.

WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

THE LANGUAGE IS, IT DOESN'T TELL ME WHAT COMPATIBILITY IS, WHAT CORRIDORS, IT DOESN'T TELL ME ANYTHING.

AND OF COURSE, UM, THE LANGUAGE, IT'S ONLY IN ENGLISH IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, ENGLISH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUS WHAT YOU'RE SENDING.

AND WE CAN'T, UM, TELL LOT OF OUR KIDS AND, AND BE, UH, ASSURED THAT THEY'RE GONNA TRANSLATE THE RIGHT WAY.

AND YOU HAVE LIKE THREE DIFFERENT COMPATIBILITIES THAT LIGHT RAILS.

AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO LEARN ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THAT, I NEED TO GO TO THE AS.

S M P, AUSTIN RED CHICKEN WILL, UM, JUST, I NEED CLARIFICATION.

SO WE ARE JUST, CUZ YOU'RE, I THINK GONNA BE UP HERE THREE TIMES.

WE ARE ON ITEM 22.

CORRECT.

MR. RIVERA, THIS IS RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, CORRECT.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GONNA HA UH, HAVE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.

THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT AND ASK YOU TO COME BACK ON THE COMPATIBILITY AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU TO COME BACK ON AGAIN ON THE LAST ONE.

ITEM 24.

SO I WANT, IF YOU CAN FOCUS, UM, YOUR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE MERITS OF POSTPONEMENT ON RESIDENTIAL AND TO COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, AND I'LL GIVE YOU MORE TIME YES.

FOR INTERRUPTING.

BUT, UH, LET'S FOCUS ON THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ONE AT A TIME.

OKAY.

PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

UM, YES, UH, IN THAT CASE, I, UM, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS POSTPONED DUE TO NOT GIVING US ENOUGH TIME TO LEARN.

I'VE BEEN, ALL OF SATURDAY, I WAS TRYING TO READ THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I WAS TRYING TO LEAD READ AS AND P I WAS TRYING TO READ EVERYTHING THAT, THAT YOU ALL SENT ME.

AND IT'S LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TRYING TO TRANSLATE THAT LANGUAGE INTO RESIDENT, UH, LANGUAGE AND THEN TRANSLA IT INTO SPANISH BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF YOU OR THE CITY HAS GONE IN, UH, YOU KNOW, KNOCKING ON DOORS AND THE CORRIDORS TRYING TO SEE IF THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT ANY OF THIS MEANS.

IT IS A HARD THING FOR US, LIKE ME AS AN ORGANIZER, WHENEVER I GO INTO A MEETING WITH RESIDENTS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

AND IN ORDER FOR ME TO LEARN ABOUT ALL OF THESE CHANGES, I LITERALLY NEED TO LEARN WHAT YOU GUYS KNOW ALREADY AND TRY TO LEARN WHAT CITY COUNCIL KNOWS.

IT'S VERY HARD DO, DOING MY JOB AS AN ORGANIZER AND THEN COMING AND DOING THIS WORK, WHICH IS MY VOLUNTEER WORK WHENEVER I HAVE TO LEARN IN ORDER FOR ME NOT TO BE DISPLACED, NOT TO BE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO STAY IN IN MY COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS OR SOME OF THE REASONS WHY IT'S NECESSARY TO POSTPONE IT, GIVING US TIME TO LEARN AND ALSO, UM, COMING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN ONE LANGUAGE.

SO, UM, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY PLANS TO TRANSLATE IT AND THEN SEND IT TO US, IT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

BUT, UM, SORRY.

BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR TIME AND I

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GUESS I SHALL BE BACK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE I'LL HEAR FROM MS. UH, GUZMAN.

MR. GUZMAN, I HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THIS MOMENT.

POSTPONE IT, REQUEST ON ITEM 22.

GOOD EVENING.

OKAY.

HEARING Y'ALL GOING BACK AND FORTH, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED, , AND IT ALSO CHANGES WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

UM, TOTALLY OPPOSE Y'ALL DISCUSSING THIS, VOTING ON IT, WHATEVER, DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN LISTENING TO US SPEAK ABOUT WHY YOU SHOULD POSTPONE IT.

IT'S AN ELECTION DAY.

PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT THERE VOTING.

I USED TO BE AN ELECTION WORKER, THREE PREVIOUS ELECTIONS.

MY DAY DID NOT END UNTIL LIKE NINE OR 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.

CUZ THE JUDGE HAS THE MOST RESPONSIBILITIES OF ALL THE POLL WORKERS.

SO THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM PARTICIPATING IF THEY WANT TO.

PEOPLE WORKING CAMPAIGNS, PEOPLE WATCHING THE ELECTION RESULTS ROLL OUT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW.

YOU AS WELL, YOU NEED TO BE OUT THERE TOO.

ARE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WANTED BEING VOTED FOR TWO AS MS. AKU WAS SAYING, NOT ENOUGH TIME.

EIGHT DAY NOTICE ABOUT STUFF ONLY IN ENGLISH, LIMITED INFORMATION.

AND IN THIS CITY, MORE THAN A HUNDRED LANGUAGES ARE SPOKEN.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR MORE THAN 50 LANGUAGES AND DIALECTS ARE SPOKEN.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE REHBERG AREA, PART OF DISTRICT FOUR.

I, I DON'T EXPECT Y'ALL TO MAKE NOTICE AVAILABLE IN EVERY SINGLE LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN THE CITY OR EVEN IN THE DISTRICT IN WHICH I LIVE, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE, AT LEAST ENGLISH AND SPANISH, AS WELL AS A WAY TO REQUEST IT IN SOMEONE'S NATIVE LANGUAGE IF IT'S NOT ENGLISH OR SPANISH.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, AGAIN, LACK OF TIME TO READ EVERYTHING.

LACK OF TIME TO REQUEST CLARIFICATION IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE DON'T UNDERSTAND.

AND, UM, THE OTHER THING IS YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE HAD ALREADY BEEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

I SCOURED THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS PAGE.

NOWHERE DID I SEE THE WORDS PUBLIC HEARING.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT TONIGHT WAS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, AND THAT REALLY UPSETS ME.

THAT'S MISLEADING, THAT'S DENIAL.

IT'S EXCLUDING PEOPLE.

THE, UH, ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC PROCESS.

UH, I WAS ONE OF THE RECIPIENTS FOR AN INVITE TO THE LISTENING SESSIONS.

IT WASN'T JUST FOR THE CORRIDORS, IT WAS FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AS WELL.

WHAT WAS WAS THE POINT OF HAVING PEOPLE THERE SPEAKING ON THAT TWO DAYS AFTER YOU HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE, UM, UH, SPEAKERS FOR THE POSTPONE, UM, IN PROCEEDING.

DO YOU WISH TO ENTERTAIN A FIVE F THREE FOR, UH, DISCUSSION DEBATE OF THE POSTON, UM, BEFORE YEAH, BRIEFLY.

UM, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR A LONGER MEETING.

UH, DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTION FOR REDUCING THE Q AND A TO FIVE AT THREE MINUTES, UH, ON THIS ITEM? FIVE PEOPLE OVER THREE MINUTES EACH, UH, QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, GIVE COMMISSIONERS FIVE QUESTIONS AT THREE MINUTES AND, AND WE CAN, UH, MODIFY THAT IF NEEDED, IF WE, UH, NEED MORE QUESTIONS ONCE WE GET TO THE END OF FIVE.

BUT I DO WANT TO, DOES STAFF, UM, WANT TO PROVIDE ANY, I GUESS WE COULD GET THEM.

WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS.

LET'S GO AND START WITH THE Q AND A AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF, I GUESS WE CAN ASK IT.

ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, AGAIN, IT'S THE MERITS OF THE POSTPONEMENT NOT THE CASE.

SO WHO HAS THE FIRST QUESTION ON, UH, ITEM 22? UH, COMMISSIONER MU, I'D LIKE TO MAKE NEUTRAL COMMENTARY, PLEASE.

UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC WHO ARE EITHER GOING TO WATCH THIS RECORDING OR HAVE COME OR HAVE WRITTEN US, UM, TO KNOW THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO VOLUNTEERS.

UM, AND WE VOLUNTEER OUR TIME AS WELL IN THAT, HOW THE, THIS CAME ONTO OUR AGENDA AND HOW THIS IS NOTIFIED SHOULD BE FOLLOWING CITY PROCESSES THAT IS NOT AT OUR ENTIRE DISPOSAL.

WE CAN HAVE THE OPTION TO DELAY THINGS THAT ARE COMING TO US, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF PUBLIC OR APPLICANTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT WE CAN'T KEEP THEM OFF OUR AGENDA WHEN THEY COME TO US.

SO WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO SO.

COMMISSION HERE IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB TO GIVE THOROUGH EVALUATION TO THESE ORDINANCES, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE AFFECTING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESSES ARE BEING FOLLOWED, UM, TO ALLOW PUBLIC INPUT AND, AND APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE.

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UM, AND I AGAIN, WANNA THANK STAFF FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE NOTICES DID GO OUT.

I DO WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER, UM, ABES FOR HOLDING THE TWO, UM, ZOOM OPTIONS, UH, BOTH DURING THE DAY AND IN THE EVENING HOURS TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND ASK QUESTIONS.

AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE GET BACK TO OUR FINAL ACTION ON, UM, THE 15TH SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL SATISFIED, SATISFIED THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COMMISS, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, I DO HAVE, UH, OH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, GO AHEAD.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, I GUESS ON THIS ONE.

UM, AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S JUST IF, IF THIS WERE POSTPONED, WOULD THERE BE ANY ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATION OR ADDITIONAL TRANSLATIONS DONE AND PROVIDED COMMISSION, UH, GREG DUTTON HOUSING PLANNING, IF IT WAS POSTPONED TO NEXT WEEK, UH, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATION, ERIC, DEVELOPMENT OFFICER HOUSING AND PLANNING.

I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE SET UP A WEBSITE, UH, THAT HAS INFORMATION ABOUT THESE TWO CODE AMENDMENTS AND THERE IS A TRANSLATION BUTTON ON THAT WEBSITE.

YOU CAN FIND IT BY GOING TO WWW.SPEAKUPAUSTIN.ORG.

AND, AND WHAT, WHAT LANGUAGES ARE THOSE IN? I WILL, I WILL GO LOOK, BUT, UM, MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LISTENERS GUESS, AND IF STAFF CAN SAY WHEN, WHEN THOSE TRANSLATIONS WERE AVAILABLE? SO WE WERE ABLE TO LAUNCH THE WEBSITE, UH, FRIDAY, AND IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE, IT DOESN'T LIST THE LANGUAGES BY NUMBER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE PROBABLY, I DON'T KNOW, 50 LANGUAGES OR SO.

AND IT, AND IT IS, THEY'LL, THE INFORMATION THAT CAN BE TRANSLATED IS, IS LIMITED, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE TWO CODE AMENDMENTS.

ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. THOMPSON? OKAY.

COMMISSIONERS, I'M LOOKING AROUND.

I I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.

SO JUST TO, UM, THIS IS ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD BACK ON OCTOBER 25TH.

I JUST WANT TO, UH, STAFF COULD CONFIRM, UM, WE DID HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 25TH ON THIS ITEM, AND WE HAD Q AND A.

AND THEN COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHEN WE, UM, WE DECIDED TO POSTPONE ACTION.

SO WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS THERE IF WE POSTPONE ACTION? UM, IS THAT WHY IT WAS PUT BACK ON THE AGENDA? I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW THAT WE DID FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES ON THIS ITEM ON AS FAR AS THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.

SO, SO COMMISSION LAY ON A, SO IT WAS, UM, NOTICED FOR, UM, YOUR LAST MEETING.

YOU HELD THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE HIP PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.

YOU, UH, THE COMMISSION HAD Q AND A AND AFTER Q AND A, UH, THE DESIRE AND THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE WAS TO POSTPONE TO THIS DATE.

IT WAS, UH, STIPULATED AT THAT MEETING.

UM, SO IT NOW APPEARS ON YOUR AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO IT ACTUALLY, THIS, UH, EVENING WOULD PROVIDE, IF WE HEAR THIS CASE, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SPEAKERS, UH, TO SPEAK AGAIN THE SECOND TIME ON THE SIDE.

CORRECT.

SO BY THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, UM, SPEAKERS ARE ALWAYS ALLOWED TO PROVIDE REMARKS ON ANY ACTION ITEM ON AGENDA.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

ANY, UM, BRINGS IT UP TO THREE.

WE HAVE TWO MORE SPOTS IF YOU NEED 'EM.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, YES, CHECK.

QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, FOR A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, NORMALLY WE'RE REQUIRED BY OUR BYLAWS TO SET A SCHEDULE ONE FULL YEAR IN ADVANCE.

SO IN NOVEMBER, WE CHOOSE THE EXACT DAYS WE'RE

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GOING TO BE MEETING IN THE YEAR FOLLOWING THAT NOVEMBER.

UH, IS IT SIMILAR FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BYLAWS.

CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON YES.

YEAH, YOU ADOPT YOUR, UH, CALENDAR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

UH, BUT, UM, YOU DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HAVE SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS AS WELL.

OKAY.

SO THEN THIS HAS BEEN ON THE BOOK SINCE LITERALLY LAST NOVEMBER, THIS EVENINGS MEETING.

CORRECT.

THANKS.

THAT'S ALL I HAD, JOE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER POLITO.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE LANGUAGE ACCESS.

WAS THAT LINKED TO THE 50 PLUS LANGUAGES? WAS THAT ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THE MAILED OUT NOTIFICATION? NO, IT WAS NOT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE WEBSITE LAUNCHED AT THAT TIME DUE TO THE TIGHT TIMEFRAME OF, OF THESE AMENDMENTS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DO, UH, WE'RE OUTTA QUESTION Q AND A.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM WHETHER WANT TO, UH, HEAR THIS EVENING OR POSTPONE TO DATE CERTAIN TO POSTPONE? GO AHEAD.

COMMISSION POLITO? YES.

MOVE TO POSTPONE TO DECEMBER 13TH.

OKAY.

OH, DECEMBER 13TH.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DETERMINING, I MEAN, I'LL MOVE TO DECEMBER 13TH, IF I CAN GET A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST, UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, WE DO HAVE NOVEMBER 15TH AVAILABLE AS WELL.

IF YOU, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THAT.

OKAY, I WILL.

UM, IT'S UP TO YOU.

I'M JUST, YOUR MOTION IS YOUR MOTION.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT WE DO COURSE WE ARE GONNA SCHEDULE A MEETING, EXTENDED MEETING THAT DATE.

OKAY.

WELL, I WOULD ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT, BUT, UM, OH, LET'S WAIT, HOLD ON.

UM, YOU DON'T HAVE A SECOND YET, SO YOU'RE FREE TO NO, I'D LIKE TO CHANGE MY MOTION BECAUSE I WOULD, MY INTENTION IS NOT TO PLACE OUR POSTPONEMENT ON AN ADDITIONAL ELECTION DAY, AND I THINK THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE THE RUNOFF ELECTION DATE.

SO, UM, WE ALSO HAVE NOVEMBER 29TH AVAILABLE.

NOW, WE, UM, WITH THE SHOW OF HAND, WE ONLY HAD SIX FOLKS.

SO RIGHT NOW, NOVEMBER 15TH IS THE ONLY DATE WE'RE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO MEET ON THAT DAY.

SO, UM, IT'S ON, IT'S ON, IT'S A DATE WE'RE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO MEET, SO WE WOULD JUST BE MEETING AND IT WOULDN'T BE CONSENT ONLY.

WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE DISCUSSION ITEMS IS THE PLAN.

OKAY.

UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR NOTIFICATION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL KEEP DECEMBER 13TH.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM 22.

DECEMBER, UH, 13TH.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? UM, ANY AMEND, UH, VICE CHAIR HEMPLE? I'LL SECOND.

OH, SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, UM, MR. POLITO? YES, I, UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS HAS BEEN, THIS HAS FOLLOWED TO AN EXTENT CITY PROTOCOL.

I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.

I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK IT'S, UM, ADEQUATE, GIVEN THE EXTENT TO WHICH THIS IMPLIES A ZONING CHANGE WITHOUT COMMUNITY PLANNING AND WITHOUT A PUBLIC PROCESS IN SO MANY AREAS.

AND SO I THINK THAT MORE TIME, UH, IS NECESSARY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT TIME.

UNFORTUNATELY, I, I WOULD BE, UH, OPEN TO POSTPONING IT TO JUST LATER IN THE MONTH, BUT I THINK ONE WEEK IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

SO I'M JUST ADVOCATING TO PUSH IT OUT SO THAT WE CAN BETTER NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

UH, THOSE THAT WANNA SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION POSTPONE PHONE, UH, I WILL, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, GO AHEAD AND START US OUT.

YEAH.

THE RISK OF FACING THE WRATH OF EVERY, UM, ENGAGED AUSTINITE CIVICALLY, ENGAGED AUSTINITE.

I'M GONNA HAVE A SIMILAR POSITION ON THE COMPATIBILITY ITEM AS WELL.

UM, I, I'M, WE'VE, I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME SOME REALLY ILLUMINATING STUFF ABOUT, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOTIFICATION, REGISTRATION, ALL OF THAT STUFF.

I REALLY, REALLY THANK THOSE WHO SPOKE BECAUSE THAT WAS NEW

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TO ME.

UH, SINCE WE'RE SITTING HERE ON THE COMMISSION, WE DON'T ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES UNLESS WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE WE WERE COMMISSIONERS.

AND SO, UM, I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO LOOK INTO AND HOPEFULLY FIX AND, AND BE MORE CONGRUENT WITH COUNSEL.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF THAT, UH, IS NECESSARILY GOING TO WORK WITH, WITH THESE TWO COORDINATES CHANGES.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MANY, MANY DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH FOLKS AT CITY HALL IS THAT THIS, AND ALSO THE, THE COMPATIBILITY CHANGE WAS ESSENTIALLY NEGOTIATED WITH A QUORUM BY COUNCIL.

UM, AND IT WAS A VERY PRESCRIPTIVE RESOLUTION.

UM, AND I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE MAY BE, WE, WE MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH VOICE AS WE TYPICALLY HAVE ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS, AND I WOULD, I WOULD MUCH RATHER ENCOURAGE, ENGAGE CITIZENRY TO ENGAGE WITH COUNCIL ON THESE ITEMS WHERE THEY PROBABLY HAVE MORE IMPACT.

I THINK OUR WORKING GROUP DID A GREAT JOB ON BOTH OF THESE THINGS, AND I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF ACTUALLY PASSING BOTH OF THESE THINGS WITH THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS SO THAT, UM, WHAT I PERSONALLY THINK WE CAN FOCUS OUR ATTENTION ON THINGS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE INFLUENCE ON.

IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A POSITION I USUALLY TAKE ON THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

UM, BUT JUST MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE BACKGROUND OF THIS, I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE OUTCOME WHETHER WE PASS IT TONIGHT WITH THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'D SUPPORT VERSUS, UH, VERSUS POSTPONING A MONTH OR TWO WEEKS OR, OR WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING.

AND WE KNOW WE'VE GOT LONG AGENDAS AHEAD OF US, AND SO I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE AS A POSSIBILITY THAT I WOULD SUPPORT.

AT THE SAME TIME, I DO NOT WANT TO BE AN IMPEDIMENT IF, IF THE WILL OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO POSTPONE.

I DON'T WANT MY VOTE TO BE THE DECIDING FACTOR.

SO, UM, I MAY VOTE A CERTAIN WAY, BUT IF MY VOTE IS THE DECIDING FACTOR, I MAY CHANGE THAT VOTE.

I KNOW IT'S A COMPLICATED POSITION TO HAVE, BUT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IT.

UM, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THOSE THAT WANNA SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? YEAH, REAL BRIEFLY.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, THE IDEAL DATE WOULD BE THE 29TH, BUT FORUM IS A REAL ISSUE.

UM, SO NORMALLY I WOULDN'T HAVE SUPPORTED PUSHING IT THIS FAR OUT.

AND, UM, COMMISSIONER JAN BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT BEING THE DAY OF THE RUNOFFS, WHERE IT WILL, UM, HAVE SIMILAR ISSUES OF, UM, COMPETING IN PUBLIC PROCESS.

SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF IN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY PUT THE SPEAK UP AUSTIN, UM, INFORMATION.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL, BUT IT ONLY HAVING BEEN AVAILABLE SINCE FRIDAY, UM, I THINK PEOPLE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, SO THAT'S WHY I'M IN SUPPORT.

OKAY.

UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION AND SEE IF I CAN GET SUPPORT FOR IT.

UM, AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO IT IN A MOMENT.

I WOULD LIKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO, IF WE DO POSTPONE, UH, TO JUST POSTPONE IT TO NOVEMBER 15TH.

UH, AND THAT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET A SECOND ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

GIVE COMMISSIONER MUSH TOLER AND I'LL SPEAK TO IT.

SO, UM, FOR A LOT OF THE, WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD, I THINK WE DO, YOU KNOW, THIS ITEM HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS HERE PERHAPS THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

SO FULLY WE COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC NOTICE, AND WE WERE READY TO TAKE THIS, UH, TO HAVE DISCUSSION AND GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS ON TO COUNCIL, WHICH COUNCIL REALLY DOES WANT THIS, UM, BY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, A NUMBER OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, THIS ITEM, AS WELL AS COMPATIBILITY, UH, THEY HAVE HAD NUMEROUS WORK SESSIONS, AS WAS POINTED OUT.

A LOT OF THIS WAS KIND OF PRE THE, THE DRAFT ORDINANCE IS KIND OF WHAT THEY, UM, PASSED IN THEIR RESOLUTION.

AND SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNSEL.

SO THEY CAN CONSIDER THIS ON DECEMBER 1ST, AND THEN THE EIGHT, WHICH ARE THEIR LAST TWO MEETINGS.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE AN ENTIRELY NEW COUNCIL AFTER THAT.

SO, UH, SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS REALLY DO WANT TO, UM, ALL THE

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TIME THEY INVESTED IN IT AS WELL AS OUR WORKING GROUP.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD LIKE, UH, TO TRY TO GET THIS IN THEIR HANDS.

AND 1115 IS THE DATE, UM, THAT WE WOULD'VE TO, UH, TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM TO GET IT, GET A AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW OUR GROUP AMENDMENTS.

UH, SO THOSE SPEAKING, UH, AGAINST THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

SORRY, CHAIR.

I, I THINK I HAVE TO SPEAK, I, I THINK I'M GONNA BE AGAINST BOTH OF THESE POSTPONES JUST FOR THIS ITEM.

I MEAN, IT'S ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL IN COMMERCIAL ZONING IN A CITY THAT'S DESPERATE FOR HOUSING.

AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE THE GREAT ONE TO TAKE UP TONIGHT AND NOT HAVE TOO MUCH GOING ON ON THE 15TH.

SO I THINK IT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO KNOCK OUT ONE OF THESE, PROBABLY VOTING AGAINST BOTH THOSE HELMETS.

OKAY.

UM, THOSE SPEAKING, UH, LET'S SEE.

THAT WAS AGAINST, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, MR. MUSH.

UM, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO SPLIT MY BOAT ON THIS ONE IN THE OTHER ORDINANCE ITEM.

UM, THIS ITEM, THE RESIDENTIAL ON COMMERCIAL.

UM, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO GIVE FOLKS ANOTHER WEEK, UM, TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON IT AND GIVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK.

I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CITIZENS KNOW THEY WILL ALSO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO CITY COUNCIL WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT, BUT I WANNA GIVE THEM TIME TO LOOK AT IT.

MY HOPE IS THAT BY LOOKING AT IT, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY NARROW SCOPE ORDINANCE.

AND THIS IS NOT MAKING WIDE SWEEPING CHANGES.

I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I FIRST SAW IT ABOUT THE IMPACTS, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY SMALL BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL ON COMMERCIAL IS ONLY IN AREAS WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE RESIDENTIAL.

WHERE WE DON'T HAVE, UM, UH, USE PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS PART OF AN AFFORDABILITY PROGRAM.

SO ANYBODY PARTICIPATING IN THIS AND REQUESTING THIS HAS TO PARTICIPATE IN AFFORDABILITY.

IF FOLKS WILL TAKE TIME TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF THE ORDINANCE, IT DOES NOT EXCESSIVELY CHANGE THE BASE ZONING.

SO PEOPLE ARE NOT THE DEVELOPERS, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT GETTING HUGE ENTITLEMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD A BIG BACKLASH FROM ON THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

AND THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY OPEN AN AVENUE TO INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AREAS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SO.

SO THIS IS A VERY NARROW SCOPE ORDINANCE AND THIS DOES NOT BROAD SWEEP NEIGHBORHOODS AND AREAS, AND IT ALLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME AFFORDABILITY TO COME IN IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.

AND SO I HOPE FOLKS WILL LOOK AT IT AND FEEL SATISFIED.

I'LL SPEAK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THE COMPATIBILITY, CUZ I DO THINK THAT HAS LARGER, MORE SWEEPING IMPLICATIONS.

UM, AS FAR AS THE RUSH TO PUT IT THROUGH, I'LL RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT IS NOT, UM, I, I DON'T FEEL COMPELLED BY THAT.

UH, I ONLY HAD ONE COUNCIL MEMBER OFFER ME EXPLANATION REGARDING THESE.

UH, I DID NOT HEAR FROM ANY OTHER MEMBERS AND DON'T FEEL OBLIGATED TO RUSH IT THROUGH A PARTICULAR COUNCIL BEFORE THE PUBLIC HAS VOTED ON THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.

BUT I, I'M, I BELIEVE IN WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS SHOWING AND I BELIEVE IN PEOPLE GIVING PEOPLE A TIME TO LOOK AT, I THINK WE CAN BRING IT BACK NOVEMBER 15TH AND PEOPLE WILL FEEL REASSURED THAT THIS IS A, PROBABLY A GOOD ONE THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

UH, THOSE SPEAKING AGAINST, UH, POST SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO POSTPONE TO 1115 INSTEAD OF DECEMBER 13, COMMISSIONER SHAY.

SO, UM, I DO APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER MUTOS KIND OF, UM, EXPLANATION RUN THROUGH ON THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.

UM, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE HAD A HEARING ON IT BEFORE WE, UM, HAVE SOME AMENDMENTS.

AND I GUESS I'M OPPOSED TO THE, I'M OPPOSED TO POSTPONING HEARING IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT TO BE HEARD FROM THE DISCUSSION IN ANY PRESENTATIONS WE HAVE TONIGHT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT TONIGHT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HUGE LIFT THE NEXT WEEK.

AND AT LEAST IF WE CAN GET THIS GOING, THIS, THE DISCUSSIONS HERE CAN HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON OTHER TOPICS THAT WE COULD EVEN FURTHEST THIS ALONG.

SO ON NEXT WEEK, THEN WE COULD, UM, HAVE ON A BETTER DISCUSSION AND BETTER ACTION ON IT.

SO I WOULD RATHER NOT POSTPONE THIS PIECE OF IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE THAT.

AND MY, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE DON'T TAKE ACTION ON IT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING WEEK.

IT, YOU KNOW, SO I, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS, BUT COMPATIBILITY, I'M FINE WITH, UM, WITH THAT POSTPONE IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WE'RE SPLITTING THAT OR NOT.

OKAY.

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UH, SO THAT WAS, UM, TWO, TWO.

YEAH.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE SPOTS, UH, FOR THOSE SPEAKING FOR AND AGAINST.

UH, ONE MORE.

ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK FOR THIS? COMMISSIONER COX? OH, UM, HE SPOKE ON THIS ONE.

THREE.

OKAY.

HE'S NOT, YEAH, WE DON'T, UH, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK? IF NOT, WE CA