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UH, IT IS

[Call to Order]

2:09 PM WE ARE CONVENING.

I'M CONVENING THE MEETING OF THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND YOUR PLAN AGAIN, CHAIR WITH VICE CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBER COSAR AND AMIR PRETENDERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON PRESENT VIRTUALLY.

UM,

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WE WILL JUMP RIGHT IN.

UH, OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 10TH AND FROM THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FROM APRIL 30TH.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT WAS, REMEMBER HARPER MADISON MOVES THE MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDS WITHOUT OBJECTION.

THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ALSO, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION WAS OPEN FOR SIGN UP UNTIL NOON ON FRIDAY AS WAS POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

BUT NO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR GENERAL COMMUNICATION.

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LET US MOVE RIGHT INTO ITEM NUMBER TWO.

YOU MUNICIPAL COURT RELOCATION PRESENTATION.

AND I ASSUME THAT OUR AMAZING IT STAFF HAS MR GALE'S PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

AND THAT ALEX IS ON THE LINE.

I AM HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? WE CAN HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

I DON'T SEE THE PRESENTATION.

ARE YOU GUYS, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE IT? WE DO NOT SEE IT YET.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION UP YET.

WOULD YOU LIKE THAT NOW? OKAY.

YES, PLEASE.

IT SHOULD BE CALLED, UM, JUDICIAL COMMITTEE PRESENTATION.

SORRY.

IT PROBABLY WASN'T TITLED, UH, OPPOSITE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES OR SPOKE COURT RELOCATION UPDATE.

BUT, UM, DAVID, FIVE 11, 2020 IT IS UP NOW.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY, I'M NOT ABLE TO SEE IT ON MY SCREEN.

UM, BUT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, HOLD ON.

I'LL GET IT AND SHARE IT.

HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT.

THERE WE GO.

YEAH.

COLLEAGUES, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL CAN SEE IT.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.

OKAY.

OH YEAH.

ALTHOUGH I WILL TAKE THIS TIME TO REMIND EVERYONE ON THE STAFF LINE AND EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU STAY MUTED IF YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING.

HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT IT'S FUN HEARING PEOPLE YELL AT THEIR KIDS.

JUST KIDDING.

OKAY, ALEX, WE CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION NOW.

OH, OKAY.

I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE IT.

I'LL, UH, I'LL, BUT I HAVE MY VERSION UP IN FRONT OF ME.

I'LL JUST, UH, OH, JUST, JUST AS A REMINDER FOR STAFF, YOU ARE ON DELAY SO YOU WON'T SEE IT AS QUICKLY AS WE SEE IT.

JUST MAKE A NOTE OF WHAT SLIDE YOU'RE ON AND WE'LL JUST SYNCHRONIZE IT UP.

THANK YOU.

UH, AGAIN.

SO, UH, ALEX GAIL, THE INTERIM OFFICER FOR THE OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES.

I DO, UH, WHAT'S ON THE LINE WITH ME.

I THINK IT WAS MARCUS, IT'S A DOOR CHECK FROM OUR OFFICE AS WELL.

UM, AND WE WANTED TO GIVE THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE UPDATE OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT RELOCATION AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS RELATED TO A RESOLUTION PASSED IN 2018 OF FEBRUARY.

UM, THE FIRST SLIDE IS JUST A COUNCIL DIRECTION, UH, WHICH DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IDENTIFYING OPTIONS, INCLUDING ELITES FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT, UH, DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL COURT SITE AND THEN IDENTIFY OPTIONS RELOCATING DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

MOVING ON THE SLIDE NUMBER THREE, UM, A QUICK RECAP OF LOOKING FOR THE NEW SPACE FOR THE AUSTIN MUNICIPAL COURT.

BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2018, COUNCIL DID APPROVE, UH, STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, AT LEASE AGREEMENT, 10 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH A 10 YEAR OPTION FOR 96,000 SQUARE FEET AT 6,800 BULLETS IN THE ROAD, UH, KNOWN AS THE BERGSTROM THE TECH CENTER.

UM, THE PLAN COMPLETION WAS FOR MARCH 2ND, 2020.

UM, THERE WAS PLANNED TO BE FIRST JURY DUTY ON MARCH 23RD, 2020.

UH, AND WE HAD ALSO BEEN LOOKING FOR NORTH PAYMENT CENTER, UH, TO RELOCATE THE CURRENT POLICE SUBSTATION,

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UH, AS WELL AS A NORTH REGIONAL FACILITY THAT WE'VE, UM, PAUSED ON UNTIL UM, THE LEASE TERM AT THE BURCHAM TECH LOCATION, UH, GETS FURTHER TOWARDS ENDING THAT LIFE CYCLE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE FOUR IS JUST SUM UP AN UPDATE OF THE PROGRESS ON THE NEW, THE NEW MUNICIPAL COURT SPACE.

THE OCCUPANCY OF THE SPACE HAS BEEN DELAYED DUE TO COBIT 19.

UH, AND OF COURSE, MUNICIPAL COURT STAFF IS ON THE CALL AS WELL AND CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL UPDATES.

BUT, UM, ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ALL OF THE PERMITTING HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THE MOVING STARTED AT THE END OF FEBRUARY.

UH, WE DID RECEIVE THE KEYS, UH, MARCH, EARLY MARCH, UH, AND SMALL GROUPS HAD BEEN, UH, HOLDING OPERATIONS, UH, AT THE OLD LOCATION, UM, UNTIL MARCH 18TH.

AND THEN ALL MOVING WAS COMPLETED ON MARCH 19TH.

UH, AND OCCUPANCY IS SCHEDULED, UM, FOR THE JUNE 1ST ANTICIPATION OF THE, UH, THE WORK STAY HOMEWORK, SAFE ORDERS BEING ENDED.

BUT OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN CHANGE DUE TO THE DAY TO DAY FLUCTUATIONS OF THE CURRENT PANDEMIC.

UM, SLIDE FIVE.

THE NEXT SLIDES ARE JUST, UH, SOME PICTURES OF THE NEW FACILITY.

SO THEN ON SLIDE FIVE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, IF I'M MOVING TOO FAST, JUST LET ME KNOW TO SLOW DOWN.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LONGER LOOK AT THE PICTURES, UH, THAT IS THE, THE PARKING LOT AND THE FRONT OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE SIX IS THE SECURED PARKING THANK UH, AND ENTRANCE, UH, OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT SITE.

SO THERE IS SECURED PARKING FOR THE STAFF ON SITE.

SLIDE SEVEN IS AN INTERIOR SHOT OF THE COURTROOM LOBBY SHOWING THE THREE, UH, COURTROOMS, UH, ENTRANCES FROM THE, FROM THE LOBBY, A LITTLE BIT OF A WAITING AREA AND, UM, WINDOW INTAKE THERE.

SLIDE EIGHT IS COURTROOM, THE INTERIOR OF COURTROOM ONE SHOWING THE BENCHES AS WELL AS THE RAISED, UH, JUDGES BENCH, UH, AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

UM, SLIDE NINE IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE.

LOOKING BACK AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE WITH THE PAYMENT WINDOWS.

YOU CAN SEE THEM NUMBERED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS TO MAKE PAYMENTS, UM, AT, AT THOSE DIFFERENT PAIN PAY WINDOWS.

UM, SLIDE 10 IS THE SUPPORT SERVICES WORK AREA WORK AREA, SO YOU CAN SEE DOES HAVE, UM, THE, THE WORKSTATIONS WITH UH, THE MOUNTED MONITORS AND SUCH FOR THE SPORTS SERVICE STAFF OF THE AUSTIN MUNICIPAL COURT.

SLIDE 11.

AS A STAFF BREAK ROOM WITHIN THE FACILITY, UH, YOU CAN SEE A BIT OF LIKE A RAISED COUNTER, UM, BREAK BREAK ROOM TABLES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, REFRIGERATOR VENDING MACHINES, UH, FOR THE STAFF, UH, TO, TO UTILIZE FOR OUR BREAK ROOM SPACE.

UM, SLIDE 12 AS A STAFF TRAINING ROOM, UM, FOR US IN MUNICIPAL COURT, THE WHOLE TRAININGS WITH OUR STAFF OF COURSE.

AND THEN SLIDE 13 IS, UH, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE SPACE, SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A WAITING AREA, A CONFERENCE ROOM TO THE INTERIOR AS WELL AS, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, WORKSTATIONS AND OFFICES OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE SPACE AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL COURT IS VERY PROUD OF THE SPACE AND, UH, OF COURSE IT HAS TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO WORK THROUGH ONCE COUNCIL APPROVED THIS.

BUT, UH, OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, DID A, DID A GREAT JOB ON, UH, GETTING THIS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND, AND GETTING, UM, THE MUNICIPAL COURT STAFF MOVED IN THERE.

UM, OF COURSE THERE'S SOME SMALL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, BUT WE'VE, UH, STILL BECAUSE IT'S NEW, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH A COUPLE OF LITTLE HICCUPS AS WE'VE GOTTEN INTO THIS SPACE, BUT REALLY PROUD OF, UH, WHAT OUR STAFF WORKING WITH THE NEWEST FULL COURT STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND GET, UH, GETTING EVERYTHING PUT TOGETHER IN ORDER TO GET EVERYBODY INTO THIS SPACE.

LET ME JUST, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT COMPONENT? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UM,

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IT IS, IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY TO GET HERE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU COUNT THE YEARS WHERE THE COURT WAS DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET A NEW FACILITY.

UM, IT IS, IT IS EXCITING AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF, OF THE WORK THIS COMMITTEE DID TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE NO FANCY RIBBON CUTTINGS DURING THIS TIME.

UM, HOPEFULLY AT SOME POINT WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT WORK.

I THINK AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE OR IF OR IF ON A WEBPAGE SOMEWHERE TO HAVE PHOTOS OF WHAT THE FACILITY WAS THAT, THAT WE LEFT SO YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF JUST HOW DIRE THINGS WERE IN THE CURRENT COURT TO SEE, UM, HOW THIS IS BETTER, NOT JUST FOR OUR STAFF, ALTHOUGH IT'S DRAMATICALLY BETTER FOR THE STAFF BUT ALSO FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT IS OFTEN NOT IN THE BEST OF MOODS WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME TO MUNICIPAL COURT.

BUT TO HAVE A FACILITY THAT IS CLEAN AND EFFICIENT, UM, CAN AT LEAST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY AND CALMNESS IN A, IN A DIFFICULT MOMENT.

SO I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS FACILITY COME TOGETHER CAUSE MY BARBER MADISON, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? THANK YOU JIMMY.

I'M THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR OF PLANNING.

AND YOU SAID SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING OF ALREADY, CAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE BEFORE PICTURES AND THE BEFORE AND AFTER.

IT'S REALLY IMPACTFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS BETTER FOR THIS SYSTEM AND FOR THIS PROCESS.

BUT I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THERE WERE NO TRASH CANS.

UM, AND UH, IMAGES NUMBER SEVEN, NINE AND OTHERS LIKE WHERE DO PEOPLE PUT TRASH? SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO SHUT DOWN THE SHOW.

SORRY.

UM, ALEX.

SO GO AHEAD MARY JANE.

SORRY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I WAS TRYING TO GET ON MUTED.

UM, I CAN'T SEE THE PRESENTATION BUT I DID LOOK AT IT BEFORE THIS.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE WORK AREAS.

UM, THOSE PICTURES MAY BE WHEN WE FIRST MOVED IN, BUT ALL OF THE DESKS HAVE TRASH CANS AND RECYCLE THEN UNDER THEM NOW.

AND THIS IS ALEX AGAIN AND I KNOW THE PICTURES THERE IS, YOU CAN, THERE'S ONE VISIBLE, UH, AND, AND SEVEN, UH, DOWN BY PORTLAND THREE.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE THINGS WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH TRASH CANS, UH, FOR THAT FOR WHAT WE'RE, WHAT'S NEEDED THERE.

THANK YOU, ALEX.

JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

WE'RE ON SLIDE 14, RIGHT? SLIDE 14.

UM, SO JUST TO CIRCLE BACK ON A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT COUNCIL HAD ASKED US BACK IN FEBRUARY, 2018, ITEM TWO, UH, WAS THE FUTURE USE OF THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING.

UM, WE DID HAVE A STUDY DONE IN 2012 BUT THAT PUT THE CONDITION RATING AT 68% AND 1.7 MILLION IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

AND WE CAN, WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THAT, BUT WE CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT IT IS OF COURSE FALLING INTO SOME MORE, UH, MORE ADDITIONAL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THAT.

AND IN A WORST CONDITION RATING, WE'VE, WE'VE BASICALLY BEEN, UH, WHEN I SAY WE BUILDING SERVICES, WORKING WITH MUNICIPAL COURT, UH, TRYING TO, TO KIND OF BANDAID THAT FACILITY.

WE DID HAVE AN UPDATED CVRE REPORT COMPLETED, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, AND IT DID RECOMMEND FURTHER STUDY OF THAT PROPERTY AND, AND WORKING WITH THE APD HEADQUARTERS PROPERTY OF HOW, UH, THAT SITE MAY BE, UH, VISIONED, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A POTENTIAL TO DO SOME SORT OF GROUND LEASE REDEVELOPMENT OR SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND OVERALL BECAUSE THOSE TWO SIDES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE WALNUT CREEK TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ZONE, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.

UH, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, WE, THIS ISN'T ON OUR, UM, IT'S OF COURSE IT'S ON OUR TO DO LIST AS PART OF THAT CBR RE, EXCUSE ME, THAT CBR REWROTE FORWARD.

BUT WE, WE'VE, WE HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, UH, FACILITIES THAT WE ARE, HAVE PUT HIGHER ON THE PRIORITY, UH, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAPITALIZE ON THOSE AS, AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR FACILITIES PLAN.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT? THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL COURT BUILDING, SORRY, I DON'T MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

AND OF COURSE YOU, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS AT THE END AS WELL.

SO ITEM THREE WAS DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT, UH, AND LOOKING FOR A NEW, UM, FACILITY FOR THEM, WHETHER IT'S A

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LEASE OR PURCHASE.

UH, WE DID CONSIDER MULTIPLE OPTIONS WHEN LOOKING FOR REPLACEMENTS.

I KNOW WHEN WE PRESENTED THAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT, UM, LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP IN A WORK SESSION AS WELL.

UM, BUT WE'VE LOOKED AT SHORT, SHORT AND MIDTERM OPTIONS, UH, WHICH WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING AND NEGOTIATING A POTENTIAL LEASE WITH AN OPTION TO PURCHASE ON EAST SECOND STREET.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE LAST, UM, JUDICIAL COMMITTEE UPDATE PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE.

AND AS FOR THE LONGTERM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING IS OF COURSE A PURCHASE OF, UH, OF, OF THE LEASE FACILITY AS THE LONGTERM OPTION.

UH, AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE ACQUISITION FOR BUILDING A LOAN FACILITY, UH, POTENTIALLY CO-LOCATED WITH OTHER, UH, SERVICES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT DOES HAVE THAT JURISDICTION THAT THEY FALL IN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF COURSE, ARE THE, THE INCREASED COSTS TO PURCHASE, BUILD AND LEASE.

UM, SO ALL THOSE THINGS WE'VE HAD TO BE LOOKING AT, UH, AS YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT PRICES, UH, WHEN LOOKING TO, TO BUY, UH, EITHER A LAND AND BUILD OR BUY A FACILITY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURTS, SPECIAL NEEDS, UM, SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, COURTROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEN THERE ISN'T TYPICALLY A SITE AVAILABLE, UH, THAT WE CAN JUST TAKE OVER.

UH, AND, AND WE'LL BE READY TO BE USED, UH, FOR THAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

SO FOLLOWING ON TO SLIDE 16, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN PURSUING IS THAT LEASE AGREEMENT ON EAST SECOND STREET.

UH, IT DOES HAVE A PURCHASE OR WHEN NEGOTIATING AN OPTION TO PURCHASE THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN, UH, IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS.

OF COURSE A WEEKLY STAFF HAS BEEN MEETING, UH, WITH THE LANDLORD ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURTS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.

UH, THE FACILITY WOULD BE ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH A MODERN DESIGN.

IT WOULD BE A 10 YEAR, UH, NEW, THE TERM OF AGREEMENT WOULD BE A 10 YEAR TRIPLE NET LEASE WITH A PURCHASE OPTION, BUT WOULD BE A TURNKEY FACILITY.

SO AS PART OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT, THE LANDLORD WOULD DO THE FULL BUILD OUT AS UH, AS REQUIRED BY, UH, DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURTS DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.

THE FACILITY WOULD HOUSE UP TO, WOULD HAVE UP TO 30,000 SQUARE FEET WITH ALL THE AMENITIES THAT YOU WOULD NEED.

UH, IT'S, UH, IT WOULD BE A THREE STORE BUILDING WAS UNDERGROUND PARKING AND OF COURSE IT WOULD BE ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AS THE CITY SHUTTLE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH ALL THESE NEWER FACILITIES THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON, UH, AT BEN WHITE, AT BERGSTROM TECH, UM, THE BRODY OAKS LOCATION, BASICALLY HAVING A CITY SHUTTLE CONNECTING ALL OF THOSE TO CITY HALL, UM, AND UH, THE LIBRARY AND ALL THOSE OTHER FACILITIES, UH, AS WELL AS EVEN WITH, UH, THE PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER AT THE HIGHLAND MALL, LACEY STREET.

UH, AND THEN SLIDE 17, JUST TO GIVE A, AN UPDATE OF THE TIMELINE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

UH, OF COURSE WE'RE CURRENTLY NEGOTIATING, UH, THOSE, UH, THOSE LEASE TERMS. WE'RE HOPING TO GET TO A FINAL DESIGN, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE.

UH, ONE THING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, BASICALLY BUILD OUT OF, OF THE FACILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS.

WE DO EXPECT THE COST TO BE, TO BE, UM, TO REFLECT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, FOR, FOR THIS LANDLORD TO DO THAT BUILD OUT, THERE'S GOING TO BE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, A 10 YEAR LEASE.

AND SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A COSTS, UH, FOR THE SLEEVES FOR THEM TO DO THE BUILD OUT FOR THAT.

WE ANTICIPATE, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE FINALIZED DESIGNS TO HOPEFULLY GET SOMETHING ON, UM, THE COUNCIL AGENDA AND, AND BY THE END OF JUNE, UH, THAT WE COULD GET IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO, UM, SEE IF THEY APPROVE US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS NEW SITES.

UH, WE WOULD THEN EXECUTE THE LEASE IN JULY, 2020, UH, ASSUMING WE DO GET COUNCIL'S APPROVAL IN JUNE, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPER SLASH LANDLORD OWNER WOULD, UH, GO THROUGH THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS, GET THE PERMITTING AND AUGUST, 2020 AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE ANSWERED IS ESTIMATED AT 1218 MONTH CONSTRUCTION

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PERIOD, WHICH PUTS YOU OUT TIL ABOUT FEBRUARY, 2022 WITH, UH, A POTENTIAL MOVE IN.

AND MARCH, 2222 SO YOU'RE ALMOST AT A FULL TWO YEARS, UH, ESSENTIALLY FROM THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY 20 MONTHS OR SO, OR 22 MONTHS ESSENTIALLY, UH, FROM, FROM THIS PRESENTATION IF EVERYTHING OF COURSE GOES TO PLAN A, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT, UH, AS A POTENTIAL MOVE IN FOR DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

UH, AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE IS OF COURSE IT'S JUST THE JURISDICTION WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST PRESENTATION AS WELL.

UM, BUT WITH THAT, THAT WAS THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND WOULD BE OPEN TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, ALEX ON YOUR, IN YOUR TIMELINE WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT LEASE NEGOTIATIONS, FINALIZING DESIGN, THEN GETTING COUNCIL APPROVAL IN JUNE.

ALRIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE STILL SOME FOLKS WITH SOME RESERVATIONS.

JUDGE COFFEY HAS SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE SIDE.

I'VE SHARED WITH YOU MY RESERVATIONS.

I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE.

MMM.

IT IS, IT IS DIFFICULT AS YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE IN THIS, IN THIS COMMITTEE TO FIND THE RIGHT LOCATION DOWNTOWN AND DOWNTOWN HAS HIGHER COSTS THAT ARE, ET CETERA.

BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE, THE ITEM, WHAT IS THE ITEM THAT WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING IN JUNE? SO IT WOULD BE BASICALLY A NOT TO EXCEED COST AND THE TERMS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE UP TO THIS POINT OR UP TO THAT POINT IN JUNE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT, BUT WE TRY TO GET THE AGREEMENT, UH, AT LEAST CLOSE TO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A TERM SHEET OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE DEAL MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY AND THE LEASE, UH, FOR THAT 10 YEAR LEASE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND SO BASICALLY BRINGING, UM, THOSE TERMS AND THAT NOT TO EXCEED COSTS.

COMING TO COUNCIL AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE RCA WOULD, WOULD ASK FOR IS APPROVAL TO, UH, NEGOTIATE MEXICAN CUTIE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNER.

OKAY.

UM, I, I WANNA KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JUDGE COFFEE OR YOU ARE TALKING TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL WHO MAY NOT BE TRACKING THIS AS CLOSELY AS THE COMMITTEE IS SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE AND DON'T FIND OURSELVES IN THAT SITUATION WHERE THE COUNCIL FEELS LIKE WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE SO MUCH WORK HAS GONE INTO IT ALREADY.

THAT WAS, REMEMBER COSTAR.

REMIND ME.

SO, UM, WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE, THE POTENTIAL OF THE BOTTOM OF THE FAULT, THE CHALLENGE, WHAT THE LATEST CHALLENGE THAT WE FACED WAS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING WHILE WE WERE DOING CONSTRUCTION AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.

WAS THAT THE LATEST MAJOR CHALLENGE THAT WE FACED IN THAT DISCUSSION OR WAS THERE A DIFFERENT ONE? I FORGET.

I FORGET.

JUST CAUSE IT FEELS LIKE SO MUCH HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

NO, I AGREE.

AND I, THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE I THINK TOO WAS, WAS THE, THE FOOTPRINT AS WELL.

I THINK THE SIZE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE SPACE I THINK.

AND OF COURSE I KNOW, UH, PETE VALDEZ AND JUDGE COFFEE CAN HOP ON, BUT FOR SOME REASON I WANT TO SAY WE WERE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 25,000 SQUARE FOR THE PROGRAMMATIC THINGS THAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT NEEDED.

AND I THINK THERE WAS A CHALLENGE WITH THAT FIRST FLOOR OF THE FALL TO MEET THAT AS WELL AS YES.

YEAH.

OUR, OUR MINIMUM WOULD BE 20,000 SQUARE FEET.

OUR MINIMUM, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD NEED WOULD BE 20,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF THE FOLK IS HOW BIG I'D HAVE TO GO BACK.

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER AND BE INCORRECT, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM MY, MY REMEMBERING OF WHAT WE DID IS THAT I THINK IT WAS AROUND A LITTLE LESS THAN WHAT THE PROGRAMMATIC REQUIREMENTS WERE FOR DOC.

UM, AS WELL AS JUST THE CHALLENGES OF PUTTING BACK IN THERE WHILE THE, WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION WAS GOING ON AS WELL AS, UM, JUST SOME OF THE, THE UH, THE PUSHBACK THAT I'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, HEARD AND I KNOW OF COURSE COUNSEL CAN, CAN REDIRECT US, BUT JUST FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION WANTING TO USE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THE HISTORICAL

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ARTIFACTS AND ARCHIVES OF, OF THIS CITY.

OH, I MEAN IN THE END, RIGHT? WE ALL, WE HAVE TO ARBITRATE THAT IF THE, I THINK WHERE WE LEFT OFF, IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT, IS THAT WE WANTED TO SEE THE SIDE BY SIDE COSTS BECAUSE IF, IF, IF WE CAN SOLVE THE STAGING ISSUE, UM, THROUGH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, THAT MIGHT STILL BE MUCH LESS MONEY THAN POTENTIALLY HAVING TO BUILD A BUILDING ENTIRELY FROM SCRATCH, LEASE IT, AND THEN LONGTERM LOOK AT BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING OR LEASING ANOTHER BUILDING OR EXCITING TO STAY THERE.

AND IF WE'RE JUST BUILDING THIS NEW BUILDING AND DECIDING WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE, THEN WE SHOULD DISCUSS THIS AS THE PERMANENT HOME FOR THE DECK, NOT AS A SHORTER MIDDLE TERM THING.

SO AGAIN, I FEEL I WOULD REALLY WANT LAID OUT FOR US THE COSTS VERSUS THE COST OF DOING IT THIS WAY COMPARED TO THE COST OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO FIT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF THE FALL.

UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL COSTS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LEASE SOME LAND NEARBY OR LEASE A PARKING LOT NEARBY FOR STAGING OR DO OTHER THINGS.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE ARE WAY MORE COMPLICATED CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT OCCUR ALL ACROSS THE CITY ALL THE TIME.

MORE COMPLICATED THAN FIGURING OUT HOW TO RETROFIT THE TOP END BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO KNOW.

BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE IS A COST OF HAVING TO DO THIS TWICE AS OPPOSED TO JUST ONCE ON A CITY OWNED AND IT'S GOTTA.

THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME COST SAVINGS ABOUT IT BEING ALREADY OUR LAND AND ARE ALREADY A BUILT BUILDING RATHER THAN SOMEBODY ELSE'S LAND AND A NEW BUILDING.

SO ANYWAY, YEAH, IF WE JUST FIT AND IF WE JUST CAN'T DO IT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IF IT'S A POLITICAL QUESTION OF PEOPLE DISAGREE ABOUT WHERE IT SHOULD BE, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US.

COUNCIL MEMBER IS MICHAEL COFFEE.

UM, I, MY NAME'S MARIA, I JUST WANT TO, YEAH, MY NAME MARIE IS THE WAR.

UH, EACH OF THE FLOORS, THE BUILDING ARE ABOUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET ROUGHLY.

UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN ABOUT 4,900 SQUARE.

WHAT WAS THE IDEA WE'VE HAD IS TRYING TO PUT ALL OF OUR GROUP TOGETHER BECAUSE RIGHT NOW OUR CASE MANAGERS ARE HAVING TO WORK IN ANOTHER ROOM, ASIAN.

UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT HAS TO BE, THAT WOULD BREAK SOME EFFICIENCIES FOR US TO DO THAT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF GIVE Y'ALL SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERN, THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE EAST SIDE IS WONDERFUL FOR ALL OF THEM.

THINGS THAT WE NEED EXCEPT FOR THE LOCATION I THINK IS DIFFICULT.

UM, IF THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING AT THIS COURT EXPANDING THE BIGGER PARTS OF THE CITY, THAT MAY NOT MAKE AS MUCH DIFFERENCE.

BUT MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE ARE MUCH CLOSER INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREAS AND ARE NOT EASILY ABLE TO MOVE.

NOW IF WE'VE GOT A SHUTTLE SYSTEM GOING, IT CAN PICK EVERYBODY UP AND MOVE EVERYBODY EFFICIENTLY.

MAYBE THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT PROBLEM.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN THEORY YEARS AGO AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT MORE RECENTLY.

ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT INFLAMMATION IN A COUNCIL MEMBER FLAT AGAIN AND CONCERN BROUGHT UP CONCERNS.

I HAVE NO, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT AND HAVING IT IN THE ACTUAL DOWNTOWN AREA MAKES SOME SENSE.

SO AGAIN, MR GAIL, IF, IF, IF, IF WE, EVEN IF WE HAD TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT IS BUILDING OUT 14,000 SQUARE FEET LOOK LIKE AND THEN STILL LEASING OUT ANOTHER TWO OR 3000 SQUARE FEET FOR CASE MANAGERS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE COST COMPARISONS.

IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE'RE MAKING A DECISION BASED ON MULTIPLE OPTIONS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A JUDGMENT AND WE CAN EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL BE OF COURSE MORE TIME BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS GET WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE COSTS WOULD BE TO DO THAT WORK AT, UH, AT THE FALK AS WELL AS, UH, THE TIMELINE, UH, FOR THEM TO GO OUT TO BID AND HAVE THAT WORK COMPLETED AS WELL.

UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE REAL ESTATE, I HAVEN'T ENGAGED ANYBODY.

I DON'T THINK,

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UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAS DONE THAT WORK EITHER JUDGE COFFEE.

DOES THAT SEEM WORTH IT TO YOU FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MOVE INTO THE FALL CONSTRUCT? YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT.

I KNOW REAL ESTATE HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK AND THEY'VE DONE SOME GREAT WORK FOR US.

WHAT I THOUGHT FOR A LONG TIME BLOCK LOCATION OR HELL SOUTH BUILDING WAS ANOTHER LOCATION THAT EVER BECAME ELIGIBLE.

THAT WOULD BE MORE IDEAL OF A LOCATION.

I'M NOT SURE.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO KNOW NOW.

HONESTLY.

AND OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU ALL ARE AWARE AND WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THE TIME TO DO THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, UH, IT JUST MAY HURT OUR NEGOTIATIONS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF COURSE WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT, UM, WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO GET US TO THIS POINT WITH THIS, THIS LEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MAY JUST HAVE TO ALMOST START ALL OVER AGAIN TO WANT TO GO BACK AND DO THIS WORK ON THE FALL TO SEE IF, UH, WHAT THE COST AND TIMELINE WOULD BE FOR THIS TO BE A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT AT FAULT.

THAT WAS WHEN HARBOR MADISON, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I THINK FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.

UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FACT THAT I ALWAYS KEEP COMING BACK TO, IN MY MIND'S EYE, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO ASSUME THAT THE DOWNTOWN CITY CENTER IS THE PLACE TO HOUSE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT, UM, UH, PLACES LIKE THE ARCH, ET CETERA.

I MEAN I STILL KEEP FINDING MYSELF IN THIS PLACE WHERE I JUST WONDER IF FOR THE LONGTERM GREATER GOOD OF ONE WHAT IT IS THAT WE HOPE TO EXECUTE BY WAY OF HAVING THESE SYSTEMS IN PLACE AND UH, PROXIMITY TO THE DOWNTOWN CITY CENTER.

I ALWAYS WONDER IF THIS IS, UM, WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION OR IF WE NEED TO BE THINKING IN ANOTHER DIRECTION WHY, HOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST INTEREST.

BUT I THINK SOME OF MY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO BE AN ANSWER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH ON THAT WE'RE, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY HEAVY AGENDA ITEMS AND I WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY, UM, TALK ABOUT, THANK YOU JUDGE COFFEE.

UH, ALEX FOR BEING ON THE CALL.

I THINK FOR MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS ON THIS DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT TOPIC, UM, I HAVE HEARD STAFF SAY BOTH CAN LOOK AT THAT AND IF WE'D LOOK AT IT, IT'S GOING TO DISRUPT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF WE'RE DOING.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT, WE BETTER BRING AN IFC TO A COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT STAFF'S NOT GOING TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN.

THIS STAFF IS, FEELS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DIRECTED TO GO A CERTAIN DIRECTION AND THEN WE COULD RECOMMEND SOMETHING THEM.

BUT, UM, OR WE CAN BRING AN IFC.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I THINK THERE'S STILL TOO MANY QUESTIONS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, BUT LET'S, UM, LET'S, LET'S PUT THAT ON OUR LIST AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR OUR OFFLINE WORK.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON

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TO ITEM ITEM NUMBER THREE.

UM, CHIEF MANLEY, CHIEF GAY.

UH, THIS IS OUR BRIEFING AND UPDATE ON THE RACIAL DISPARITY RESPONSE TO THE DRUG REPORT ON RACIAL PROFILING DATA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES.

OKAY.

UH, IF IT MEETS YOUR NEEDS, I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR RESPONSE TO THE 14 RECOMMENDATIONS MADE IN THE RACIAL PROFILING REPORT, UH, AS OUTLINED IN THE MEMORANDUM THAT I BELIEVE EACH OF YOU RECEIVED EARLIER TODAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I'M SEEING HEAD NODS FROM MY COLLEAGUES THERE.

PRETEND I HAD A QUICK, YEAH, THE MEMO IS DATED APRIL 23RD BUT WE JUST GOT IT WERE WHERE YOU RESCINDED OR IT WAS NOT IN FACT SET UNTIL THIS MORNING.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION.

YOU ALL RECEIVED A COUPLE OF MEMORANDUMS FROM ME.

ONE BEING THE CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THE SEARCH DATA THAT CAME UP IN OUR LAST MEETING WHERE WE IDENTIFIED THE PERCENTAGE OF ARRESTS FROM TRAFFIC STOPS THAT WERE A RESULT OF AN ARREST.

AND SO I THINK BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN MY DEPARTMENT AND COO AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEMO IS BEING SENT.

I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUES THAT THERE WERE TWO MEMOS AND NOT ONE.

AND SO THAT MIGHT'VE LED TO PART OF THIS DELAY.

OKAY.

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OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I WILL DO, I'LL GO AHEAD.

YEAH, YEAH.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, TRY TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT I'M SURE THERE ARE GOING TO BE QUIET.

OKAY, SURE.

ABSOLUTELY.

I'LL JUST JUMP THROUGH.

SO SOME OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL CAN READ.

I DON'T WANT TO JUST READ TO YOU, BUT, UH, ON RECOMMENDATION TWO, I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT WORKING IN THIS AREA OF PROPORTIONALITY IS NOTHING NEW TO THE DEPARTMENT.

WE IN FACT DID PARTNER WITH CENTER FOR POLICING EQUITY BACK IN 2016 AND HAVE BEEN BOTH LOOKING AT AND TALKING ABOUT THIS AND ADDRESSING IT SINCE THAT TIME.

UH, BUT THE JOINT REPORT DID TAKE OUR DATA TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND AS WE STATED AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO ADVANCE THAT WORK AND PUSH THIS DATA FURTHER TO HOPEFULLY FILL IN MORE OF THE BLANKS AND ANSWER MORE OF THE QUESTIONS LIKE THE OTHER MEMO THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED THAT IDENTIFIED THE SEARCH DATA DID FOR US.

UM, WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE OUTCOMES OF MANY OF OUR ACTIVITIES DO RESULT IN DISPARITY AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING AWAY WITH THAT DISPARITY, ESPECIALLY THAT THAT IS THE RESULT OF OFFICER DISCRETION.

IN OTHER WORDS, OFFICERS ARE MAKING CHOICES THAT ARE LEADING TO THE DISPROPORTIONALITIES.

AND SO I KNOW IT'S BEEN IMPORTANT TO HEAR THAT COMMITMENT AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING THAT.

UM, LOOKING AT NUMBER FIVE, JUST TO KIND OF STAY ON TRACK WITH YOU, WHEN WE LOOK AT FUTURE REPORTING, WE AS A DEPARTMENT HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REPORT THE STATE MANDATED AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

I EXPECT THAT THE OPO WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BOTH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION TO PRODUCE A REPORT SIMILAR TO THE ONE LAST YEAR.

AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM IF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES EXIST.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT GROUPS THAT DO THIS TYPE OF ANALYSIS BUT TO A MUCH DEEPER LEVEL.

AND TO THAT END, I'VE ACTUALLY SHARED SOME REPORTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED BY A RESEARCH FIRM, UH, WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE HERE IN AUSTIN.

I'VE SHARED SOME REPORTS THAT I THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR US THAT THEY DID ON A FEW OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, ONE OF WHICH ACTUALLY FOUND DISPROPORTIONALITY AND ONE THAT DID NOT.

SO, UH, THEY, THEY'RE EXPERIENCED IN THIS AREA AND THEY TAKE THE DATA TO A MUCH DEEPER LEVEL THAN EVEN THE JOINT REPORT DID.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

UH, LOOKING AT ITEM SIX, UH, WE, WE DO REQUIRE OFFICERS TO DOCUMENT THE INDIVIDUALS RACE AND GENDER AND OUR IN OUR DOCUMENTATION.

SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT AN ISSUE.

UM, THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, WE DO THINK THAT OVERSIGHT TOOLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND THAT WE SHOULD LOOK TO EXPAND ON THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE CAN DO AN EARLY IDENTIFICATION OF OFFICERS WHO MAY BE AT RISK OR BIAS BASED BEHAVIORS AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT SOLUTION MAY LOOK LIKE AND WHAT MIGHT BE OUT THERE THAT WE COULD USE.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING, THERE'S A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE ON BIAS TESTING.

WE'VE BROUGHT BIAS BASED TRAINING INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DOES A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL POLICE TRAINING AND WE CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT TYPE OF TRAINING FOR OFFICERS.

WE EXPECT EVERYONE THAT COMES INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE BIASES AS WE ALL DO.

WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THEIR BIASES AND THAT WE HAVE TRAINED THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO NOT ONLY BE AWARE OF THEM BUT TO ENSURE THAT NONE OF THEIR ACTIONS ARE BASED UPON THEM.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUING UP TO FOCUS ON.

THAT KIND OF FEEDS INTO ITEM NUMBER 10 WHERE WE LOOK AT, UH, FLAGGING OFFICERS THAT MAY BE, UH, SET FOR INTERVENTION.

WE DO HAVE A GAP SYSTEM HERE AT THE DEPARTMENT THAT TRACKS CERTAIN PARTS OF OFFICER CONDUCT WITH THAT GOAL OF EARLY IDENTIFICATION.

AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, TO HOPEFULLY ENHANCE THAT SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN BE BETTER AT PREDICTING THIS.

BUT WE DO CURRENTLY HAVE A GUIDANCE ADVISORY PROGRAM THAT TRACKS, AMONG OTHER THINGS OFFICER'S USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, UM, AND COMPLAINT DATA SO THAT WE WOULD GET AN EARLY IDENTIFICATION IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, OUR SUPERVISORS DO RANDOM AUDITS OF ALL OF OUR OFFICERS WORK, THEIR BODY WORN CAMERAS AND IN CAR CAMERAS.

AND SO TO THAT END TOO, WE EXPECT, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING OFFICERS.

UH, I THINK ITEM NUMBER 11 TO IDENTIFY A BIAS BASED COUNTERING POLICIES, PRACTICES, METHODS, PROCESSES, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

WE ARE REGULARLY LOOKING AT OUR POLICIES AND TRYING TO ENSURE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING BEST PRACTICES.

I THINK THIS ONE ALSO ALIGNS WITH YOUR RESOLUTION ITEM 66 THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADDRESS, UH, AS WE WORK TOWARDS HOLDING THE FUTURE POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES.

AND I THINK IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH SOMETHING I'M LOOKING TO DO,

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UH, AS A RESULT OF THE TATUM REPORT AND BRINGING IN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT WHO HAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE IN THE AREA OF BIAS, UH, WITHIN, UH, WITHIN A LARGE STATE OREGON ORGANIZATION IS WHERE THIS PERSON WORKS AND KIND OF TACKLING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

AND, UH, WE ARE AGAIN, WORKING WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE ON THAT PART OF THE PROJECT AND PUTTING THAT IN PLACE.

RECOMMENDATION 12, THE COMPREHENSIVE RACIAL HISTORY OF POLICING CURRICULUM AND THE CONNECT TRAINING ACADEMY, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF BRIGADE DID A LOT OF WORK ON THIS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THAT PROGRAM IS READY TO GO AND WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEXT CADET CLASS.

UH, AS IT IS, IT IS FINALLY COMPLETED.

THE LAST TWO ITEMS HERE.

UH, WE, WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH EQUITY OFFICE AND OFFICE FLEET OVERSIGHT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR TRAINING AND OUR CURRICULUM IN THESE AREAS AND TRYING TO GARNER THEIR EXPERTISE AND GUIDANCE AS WE SELECT WHAT WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THESE CRITICAL AREAS.

AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL TRAINING IN THIS AREA AS EITHER WE IDENTIFY OR IDENTIFY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH POLICE OVERSIGHT AND THE EQUITY OFFICE.

AND, UH, AGAIN, WORKING TO INCLUDE THAT IN OUR ANNUAL STRATEGIC PLANS FOR TRAINING.

UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE VARIOUS TRAININGS THAT WE PUT OUR OFFICERS THROUGH EACH YEAR.

SO THAT WAS ABOUT AS QUICK AS I CAN GO THROUGH, KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND I WILL STOP AT THAT POINT AND, UH, UH, RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND HAVING THAT REAL BRIEF, UM, BUT I, I FEEL LIKE VERY COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO ADDRESSING, UM, SOME OF, UM, WHAT WERE CERTAINLY ISSUES OF CONCERN AND CONSIDERATION FOR ME.

I STILL KEEP FINDING MYSELF BACK TO THIS PLACE WHERE LIKE AS A FRIDAY, YOU KNOW, A PRESS DAY WHERE NOTHING GOT PICKED UP.

WE GOT DROPPED THREE BOMBSHELLS BY WAY OF PD.

AND SO I JUST, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT I'LL BE DELIVERING FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE WEEK.

UM, IN TERMS OF RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS, ONE OF THEM THAT I STILL DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER TO IN MY MIND'S EYE.

AND I'M HOPING THAT WHILE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO OUR CHIEF, UM, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO RESPOND TO THIS QUESTION ABOUT, UM, SO LIKE YOU JUST BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, TRAINING MODULES AND PARTICULAR CONSIDERATION AROUND WHAT, WHAT SPECIFIC THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT OUR, UM, CADETS ARE LEAVING WITH.

UM, THIS QUESTION ABOUT DEESCALATION KEEPS COMING UP, AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT I FIGURED, I FEEL LIKE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, RIGHT? SO IF I'M ABLE TO GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED AND I'M, IF I'M ABLE TO OFFER SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF RESPONSES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT KEEPS ASKING ME, YOU KNOW, AT WHAT POINT DO WE HAVE A REAL, UM, COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION AROUND DEESCALATION TRAINING? SO I GUESS MAYBE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, UM, AND I DON'T REALLY THINK THIS IS NECESSARILY GOING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT LEADS US TO A BETTER OFFLINE DISCUSSION AND A BACK AND FORTH WHERE I CAN MAKE SURE I'M ANSWERING IT MORE SPECIFICALLY, BUT DEESCALATION, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TRAINED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR DECADES.

IT'S JUST NEVER BEEN CALLED NECESSARILY DEESCALATION AND IT'S NEVER REALLY HAD IT IS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

AND IT'S THE BUZZ WORD IN THE INDUSTRY AND ALL OF THAT.

WE, WE'VE TAUGHT THIS FOR DECADES.

IT'S JUST NOW MUCH MORE STRUCTURED AND ORGANIZED.

I KNOW THE QUESTIONS ARE, WHERE DOES IT SHOW UP IN THE ACADEMY? IS IT INTERWOVEN IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE TRAINING? AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART, MAYBE YOU AND I, IF IT MEETS YOUR NEEDS, I CAN WORK OFFLINE WITH YOU TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF HOW WE INTEGRATE DEESCALATION THROUGHOUT THE ACADEMY TRAINING.

YES.

I THINK, I THINK GIVEN THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIMITED ACCESS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION VERY DIRECTLY.

YES, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, A REALLY GOOD START TO A LONG CONVERSATION IS WHAT I SUSPECT.

OKAY.

I WILL, I WILL HAVE MY STAFF START PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT JUST KIND OF OUTLINES HOW DEESCALATION IS WOVEN THROUGHOUT THE TRAINING.

I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO THAT VERY MUCH.

IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT A WHOLE BUNCH.

UM, BUT, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT IN LIKE THE CASE WITH MIKE RAMOS, YOU KNOW, THAT STARTED WITH UM, THE DEPLOYMENT OF A NONLETHAL ROUND.

I'M GETTING VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY ON WHY THAT HAPPENED.

AND SO, UH, EITHER HERE OR ANOTHER PLACE, I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW AND WHY THAT HAPPENED AND WHY THAT

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WAS APPROPRIATE.

SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUATION OF THE CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

SURE.

AND JUST TO SET EXPECTATIONS, WHAT I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IS THE TRAINING AND THE EXPECTATION BUT NOT THE ACTUAL PACE BECAUSE THAT CASE AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE IS UNDER MANY INVESTIGATIONS, RIGHT? YES, OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR PRETEND? SO UNDER RECOMMENDATION THREE, UM, THE RESPONSES, ADDITIONAL DATA AND ANALYSIS IS NECESSARY TO DETERMINE HOW OFFICER DISCRETION, PROCEDURES AND SOCIETAL FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO THESE DISPROPORTIONALITIES.

SO DOES THAT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SURE.

SO IT, SOME OF THE OUTCOMES ARE DRIVEN BY OFFICER DISCRETION.

WHEN OFFICERS ARE FACED WITH A SITUATION AND THEY HAVE A CHOICE, DO I DO A OR B? WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND ARE WE CREATING DISPROPORTIONALITY IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION, BUT WE DON'T DECIDE WHEN WE GET A NINE 11 CALL, WE DON'T DECIDE HOW MANY NINE 11 CALLS MAY COME FROM ONE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY VERSUS ANOTHER PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEREFORE IMPACT THE NUMBERS OF INTERACTIONS AND THEREFORE THE POTENTIAL NUMBERS OF OUTCOMES.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING THERE AND OUR COMMITMENT IS AS WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO SEE THE DISPROPORTIONALITY GO TO ZERO, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT IS DRIVEN BY OFFICER DISCRETION.

BUT WE WANT TO DO THE WORK TO IDENTIFY, AND THIS IS AS I MENTIONED, I'VE SHARED TWO STUDIES WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE ON UH, JUST A CONSULTING FIRM THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT DOES THIS KIND OF WORK, WENT INTO TWO DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT THEIR TRAFFIC STOP DATA TO UNDERSTAND DISPROPORTIONALITIES AND WHAT CAUSED THEM.

AND IN ONE DEPARTMENT THEY FOUND PROBLEMS. AND IN THE OTHER DEPARTMENT THEY FOUND THERE WERE CAUSATIVE FACTORS OUTSIDE OF POLICE DISCRETION THAT LED TO IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS DOING THAT DEEPER DIVE INTO THE DATA AND THAT MORE THOROUGH ANALYSIS.

AGAIN, THE JOINT REPORT GAVE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD BEEN GIVING IN OUR, UM, STANDARD STATE MANDATED REPORT.

WE WANT TO TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL TO DIG INTO THAT.

AND SO DOES THAT SAY THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MEMO SAYS, IT JUST SAYS ADDITIONAL DATA ANALYSIS IS NEEDED.

IT DOESN'T SAY IF THAT IF THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS.

CORRECT.

MY INTENTION IS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS GATHERING THE BASE INFORMATION SO THAT I CAN PUT FORTH A RECOMMENDATION.

THIS MIGHT BE A LARGE ENOUGH PROJECT THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

UH, AFTER HAVING HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST THESE REPORTS AS WELL AS TO LOOK AT WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THIS AREA.

THERE ARE GROUPS LIKE PERK AND ALL THAT THAT DO THIS KIND OF WORK REGULARLY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF LOOKED AT WHO'S WORKED SPECIFICALLY ON THIS STUFF WITH TRAFFIC STOP DATA.

SO MY INTENT A MAYOR PRO TEM IS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I JUST, I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY POTENTIALLY WE MIGHT BE BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR A CONTRACT OR SOMETHING.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE STAGES OF IDENTIFYING WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

OKAY.

MMM.

SORRY.

LOOKING FOR MY QUESTIONS.

UM, WELL THE, WELL WE ALSO KNOW WHAT THE REASONS FOR THE STOPS.

I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE THOUGH.

THAT IS PART OF IT, THE INFORMATION GIVEN, IS THAT RIGHT? DO YOU, DO YOU MEAN LIKE WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS? WAS IT SPEEDING VERSUS STOP SIGN VERSUS DEFECTIVE TAILLIGHTS? YES, YES.

LET ME LOOK AND SEE WHETHER THE DATA WE HAVE NOW, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL NOW, BUT LET ME SEE IF THE DATA IN THE WAY WE HAVE IT IS IF WE ARE ABLE TO PRODUCE THAT AND THEN IF NOT, OBVIOUSLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THAT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE DATA DRIVEN DEPARTMENT AND THE MORE DATA THE BETTER WE COULD FILL IN THE BLANKS.

I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT WE HAVE IT TO THAT GRANULAR LEVEL RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UM, AND HAS THERE HAS BEEN ANY COST ESTIMATES ON THE RACIAL EQUITY TRAINING FOR ALL APD EMPLOYEES? UM, SO THERE'S JUST NOT BEEN PERSONNEL, I'M SORRY, INCLUDING CIVILIAN PERSONNEL.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE'VE NOT LOOKED AT THIS POINT TO BRING ANYTHING NEW IN AS FAR AS WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO BRING IN AND THEN WE ESTABLISH A COST.

WHAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT NOW IS WE BUILT, FIRST OF ALL THAT HISTORY OF COURSE THAT WILL BE TAUGHT IN THE CADET CLASS SO THAT ALL OF OUR NEW OFFICERS UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND COMMUNITIES

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AND WE CONTINUE TO TEACH THE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL POLICE TRAINING TO ALL CADETS THAT ALL OF OUR INSERVICE OFFICERS WENT THROUGH.

WE PUT THE ENTIRE COMMAND AND EXECUTIVE TEAM THROUGH THE UNDOING RACISM TRAINING AND THE ENTIRE TRAINING KADRA THROUGH BEYOND DIVERSITY TRAINING, THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR TRAINING ACADEMY AND THEY CURRENTLY ARE BUILDING A BEYOND DIVERSITY PROGRAM THAT WILL BE ROLLED OUT TO ALL CADETS AS WELL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE ON THIS, BUT I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC GROUP RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO BRING IN FROM THE OUTSIDE WITH AN ESTABLISHED COST.

IS THERE A PLAN TO, TO, SO THE DATA ANALYSIS FOLKS, ARE THEY CIVILIAN, ARE THEY A SWORN STAFF? MY DATA ANALYSIS TEAM ARE CIVILIANS.

ARE THEY GIVEN ANY OF THE TRAINING, THE EQUITY, THE UM, THE RACIAL EQUITY TRAINING.

THEY DON'T GO THROUGH THE TRAINING THAT THE CADETS WENT THROUGH.

I'LL HAVE TO CHECK SOME OF OUR CIVILIAN LEADERS JOINED US IN SOME OF THESE TRAININGS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALONG THE WAY.

BUT I'D HAVE TO GET A LIST.

I WANT TO BE SPECIFIC TO YOUR QUESTIONS SO I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT ONE.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPILING THE INFORMATION, SOMETIMES IT ADDS A LEVEL OF CONTEXT THAT, UM, HELPS AND, AND REPORTING INFORMATION.

UM, AND IF I MAY, JUST TO THAT POINT, I AGREE AND WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF HIRING A CHIEF DATA OFFICER IN THE DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS WILL BE SOMEONE AT A, AT AN EXECUTIVE LEVEL POSITION.

BASICALLY AT A HIGH LEVEL POSITION THAT WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA OF DATA AND DATA ANALYSIS SO THAT WE UH, THAT WE DO THE MOST AND THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE THAT RACIAL EQUITY LENS AS WELL.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHERE ARE WE IN CONTRACTING WITH THE, THE OUTSIDE ENTITY TO ANALYZE DEPARTMENT PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES? IT WAS A PART OF COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON'S RESOLUTION.

THIS IS FOR RESOLUTION 66.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER BUT WE'RE GOING TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE ENTITY TO ANALYZE DEPARTMENT PROCEDURES AND PRACTICES.

YES.

I THINK THAT ONE WAS 66 AND IT WAS RELATED TO THE UPCOMING CADET CLASS AND ALL OF THAT.

I KNOW I'VE GOT THE PROCEDURE WITH ALL OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITH BOTH INTERNAL, EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS ON VIDEO REVIEWS AND THE LIKE.

AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO SPEAK TO, UH, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT ON ACTUALLY THAT OUTSIDE CONTRACT TO BRING SOMEBODY IN.

OKAY.

MY LAST QUESTION IS OF THE, OF THE, WHAT WAS IT, 13, 14 RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, THOSE, DO YOU THINK YOU'LL EITHER HAVE THE DATA AVAILABLE OR THE, I MEAN, KIND OF THE ANSWER SO TO SPEAK, BUT I KNOW NOT EVERY RECOMMENDATION RESPONSE IS REALLY AN ANSWER, AN ANSWER, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT WE'LL DO, YOU KNOW WHICH OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE IN A PLACE WHERE THERE'S A FULL RESPONSE, UM, BEFORE THE NEXT CADET CLASS STARTS? MMM.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

CAUSE SOME OF THEM, SOME OF THEM ARE JUST, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED THINGS.

SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.

SO REPORTS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE EXTERNAL DEEPER DIVES INTO THE DATA, OBVIOUSLY THOSE WOULD NOT BE COMPLETED BEFORE A JULY CLASS.

UM, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WOULD GO INTO DOING THAT TYPE OF A REVIEW, THE TRAINING ON THE ITEM NUMBER 12, RACHEL EASTERN POLICING THAT IS DONE, IT'S READY TO GO.

MMM.

AND THE DEVELOPING TRAININGS OR LIKE ONGOING TRAININGS ON RACIAL EQUITY AND THE WHY THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING EFFORT.

SO THAT'S NOT ONE THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED AT ANY POINT.

WE WOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES EITHER ON OUR OWN OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND OFFICE POLICE OVERSIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

TERRIBLE.

HERE I CAN PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE RESOLUTION 66 QUESTIONS THAT THE MAYOR PORTEND HAD.

RIGHT.

UH, SO MAYOR FOR TEMPORARY ARIANO AGAIN, SO, UH, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FINALIZED ON THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR ISSUING A SOLICITATION, WHAT WE WOULD CALL A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION STATEMENT.

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UH, AND WE ANTICIPATE SENDING THAT OUT HERE IN MAY.

SO THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS IS GOING TO BE SENT OUT IN MAY.

IF I THINK I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S LIKE MAY AS IN LIKE A MONTH FROM RIGHT NOW.

YES.

FLIPS LATER ON THIS MONTH.

YEAH.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

YOUR AUDIO IS PRETTY GARBLED, SO I KNOW SOME OF US ARE STRUGGLING, BUT UM, PROBABLY SIMPLER TO SAY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS RATHER THAN ONCE IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

I WOULD SAY, AT LEAST FOR MY PART ON THIS, UM, IT IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME AND I KNOW FOR THE REST OF US THAT THIS NOT JUST BE A REPORT THAT ACKNOWLEDGES CHALLENGES OR THAT ACKNOWLEDGES WORK THAT SHOULD BE DONE, BUT THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THIS WORK DONE.

AND I KNOW CHIEF THAT YOU AGREE WITH US ON THAT AND SO, UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE CONTINUE TO PUT THIS ON OUR AGENDA AND HOPE TO SEE SOME VERY CLEAR CONCRETE PROGRESS ON THESE ITEMS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

ABSOLUTELY.

THAT WAS A GOOD START.

CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR UM, BEING HERE TODAY.

UM, W WHAT'D YOU DO? WE KNOW WHO WOULD BE TEACHING THE, UH, RACE AND HISTORY AND POLICING COURSE.

OH, WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU.

IT'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY MEMBERS OF MY COD DROUGHT AT THE TRAINING ACADEMY.

UM, THAT WILL BE THE INSTRUCTORS ON THIS TOPIC AND I'LL CHECK TO SEE THE UH, EXTENT.

I KNOW WE'RE BRINGING IN COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ASSIST TEACHING THE ACADEMY AS PART OF OUR CULTURAL COMPETENCE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S IN THIS TOPIC AREA.

BUT LET ME CONFIRM THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN MY LAST COMMENT HERE, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT WHEN WE HAVE ONE OF THESE ITEMS COMING UP, JUST EVEN IF IT WERE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THE MEMO THE NIGHT BEFOREHAND TO REVIEW AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO MAKE THIS TIME REALLY PRODUCTIVE AND THEN REALLY HIGHLIGHTING ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, WHICH ONES YOU AGREE WITH ENTIRELY, WHICH ONES YOU GENERALLY AGREE WITH BUT MIGHT HAVE SOME MODIFICATION TO OR DISAGREE WITH WOULD BE WOULD BE HELPFUL JUST BECAUSE LIKE THE MAYOR PRO TEM WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THEM, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GENERALLY AGREE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL SOMETIMES FROM THE MEMO WHERE THE DIFFERENCE MIGHT BE BETWEEN THE REPORTS RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT ACTIONS YOU'LL BE TAKING.

AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REALLY CLEAR AND I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE A LOT GOING ON, BUT IT'S JUST MUCH EASIER ON THESE COMMITTEE HEARINGS TO AT LEAST HAVE BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT THE NIGHT BEFOREHAND.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND IF I MAY GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTION, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK THAT WE WILL IN FACT ACTUALLY HAVE OUTSIDE.

WE WILL HAVE BOTH A COMMUNITY MEMBER AS WELL AS OUR OWN.

DR VINOBA, THE PROFESSIONAL THAT WE'VE HIRED INTO THE ACADEMY TEACHING ON THAT IS THE RACIAL HISTORY OF POLICING COURSE.

IF I CAN JUST PIGGYBACK ON A COUNCILOR CONCERNS, COMMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OTHER, SAY WE, I WAS ON MY STAFF CALLED THIS MORNING WITH MY STAFF WHEN THE MEMO LITERALLY CAME IN AND WE WERE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PLAYING TO PREPARE FOR THIS JUDICIAL MEETING AT THAT POINT.

AND THEN IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES AND TIMELINES AND WHEN SOMEONE GOT SOME INFORMATION AND HOW IT WAS USED AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

WELL THIS MAKES IT SEEM THAT WE RECEIVED THIS LETTER, THIS ON APRIL 23RD, UM, WHEN IN FACT THAT'S A, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE CLARITY I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T WRONGLY SAYING THIS MEMO'S DATED WRONG CAUSE IT'S NOT THE DATE THAT THAT RJ, OUR JUDICIAL COMMITTEE AND I, AND MAYBE I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT PART UP IF I'M STILL WRONG, OUR JUDICIAL COMMITTEE DID NOT RECEIVE THIS MEMO UNTIL TODAY AND IT'S DATED APRIL 23RD.

SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO CORRECT THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, AND JUST THAT, THAT IT'S, IT'S GOOD.

IT'S BETTER FOR US.

WE, WE, WE CAN ASK MORE INFORMED QUESTIONS WHEN WE HAVE THE INFORMATION <