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[00:00:03]

SIX O'CLOCK.

[Call to Order]

SO LET'S START TONIGHT'S AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND I'LL FIRST TAKE FIRST.

I WANT US ALL, I ACTUALLY WANT TO THANK THE TECH TEAM AND ANDREW, BECAUSE ANDREW NOW HAS PUT THE LIST OF SPEAKERS FOR WHO ARE SIGNED UP ON OUR IT'S INCLUDED IN OUR BACKUP.

SO YOU JUST HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING AND POTTING WEBPAGE, AND YOU WILL SEE ALL THE LIST OF THE SPEAKERS FOR TONIGHT AND FOR FEATURE NIGHTS TOO.

SO THERE'S NO SURPRISES AND NOW WE'LL TAKE THE ROLE OF COMMISSIONER OR GARY.

OKAY.

UM, I TAKE THAT AS A YES.

OKAY.

CONDITION NUMBER, RAMIREZ, COMMISSIONER BURROW.

RAMIREZ.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BREAD.

OOPS.

COMMISSIONER BRAY.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

UH, COMMISSIONER DANGLER.

I SAW YOUR MAP, YOUR LIPS MOVE, I GUESS THAT COUNTS, UH, COMMISSIONER THE DUNCAN.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER DUNCAN DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ON THAT COMMISSIONER HERE.

HEY, I'M HERE JOINED FOR THE LAST COMMISSIONER RAY SMITH COMMISSIONERS.

I NEED TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR MIND.

YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING.

HOW DID I MISS YOU? COMMISSIONER EVANS ANYWAY.

OKAY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

AND OKAY.

TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS

[Reading of the Agenda]

FIRST A ONE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM MAY 19TH, 2020, AND THEN BE PUBLIC HEARINGS REZONING, SEE 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR SIX JOLLYVILLE APARTMENTS.

AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

B TWO IS A REZONING.

SEE 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR ZERO NEW LOT.

AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

B THREE IS A REZONING SEE 14 2019 DASH ZERO ONE SIX TO SLAUGHTER AND COLIN.

AND THAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 16TH.

AND THAT IS ALSO THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SITE PLAN SPC DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO THREE SIX A A DASH THREE FIVE THREE FIVE TWO ONE CONVICT HILL DAYCARE.

AND THAT IS, UM, THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR, FOR APPROVAL B FIVE RESUB DIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2019 DASH ZERO ONE OH 4.08 PARMER CORNERBROOK BROOK SUBDIVISION.

AND THAT IS ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN, AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

WE ALSO HAVE NEW BUSINESS AND ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION.

SO, UM, DO

[Consent Agenda]

WE WANT TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? COMMISSIONER SMITH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER EVANS.

THANK YOU.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE WAVE YOUR HANDS AND IN FRONT OF YOUR .

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHTY, GREAT.

AND NOW WE

[Item B1]

WILL HAVE THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS B ONE C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR SIX.

AND SHERRY IS THE CASE MANAGER.

SO YES, SIR.

MAY I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? YES.

A CARE REMEMBERING LAST WEEK WHEN WE HAD A SPEAKER THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY SIGNED UP FOR THE WRONG ITEM THERE SOMEHOW.

UM, OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT WAS ON THE LINE.

ANY OF THOSE CONSENT ITEMS BEFORE WE MOVE ON.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT IDEA.

ANYBODY ON THE LINE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON BEFORE, WHICH IS THE SITE PLAN ON CLIMATE AT CONVICT HILL DAYCARE THREE, FIVE, TWO, ONE, OR IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE LINE C5, THE RE SUBDIVISION PARMER CORNERBROOK SUBDIVISION ON LINDELL LANE.

OKAY.

NOT HEARING THEN.

OKAY.

THEN WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE FIRST CASE.

SO THANK YOU.

DUNCAN HAS JOINED US.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

LET'S COMMISSIONER DECKING WITH US ON THE BOAT.

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OKAY.

YEAH.

I HAD AN INSTRUCTION.

I'VE BEEN SITTING THERE WAITING UNTIL AFTER SIX.

O'CLOCK NOT KNOWING NOW I LOOK BACK AND WE GOT IT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE GOT AN EMAIL AT FIVE 55 CHANGING THE ADDRESS.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED OR AM I JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING VIDEO CONFERENCE ROOM? I'LL LET THE VIDEO PEOPLE HAND HANDLE THAT.

IT APPEARED TO ME TOO, BUT GO AHEAD.

ANYBODY WANT TO ANSWER IT? I THINK, I THINK THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS, BUT JUST AS IT RELATES ALSO TO THE PUBLIC ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH US AND I HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES AND UH, LATER IN THE MEETING, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS OUR MATTEL.

MR. BRADY'S JOHN MYTHS ABOUT VIDEO CONFERENCING.

I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT BETTER JOB THAN OKAY.

NO, I JUST JOINED IT FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

AND NOW YOU'RE JUST IN TIME FOR THE FIRST CASE.

AND SO, SO CASE MANAGER IS SHERRY GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS CASEY 14 TO 2020 ZERO, ZERO FOUR SIX.

JOLLYVILLE ALL APARTMENTS.

IT'S LOCATED AT ONE, TWO, ONE EIGHT, TWO JEALOUS OLD ROSE.

THE REQUEST IS FROM ZONING TO MS. ZONING, THE STAFF RECOMMEND, AND THAT'S THREE MORE TYPE FAMILY RESIDENTS, MEDIUM DENSITY DISTRICT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS CURRENTLY VACANT 0.7 ACRE TRACT OF LAND THAT FUNDS ON THE DOLLAR BILL LIVE IN THE NORTH, ACROSS JOLLYVILLE ROAD.

THERE IS GR AND GRC ZONING DEVELOPED WITH A COMMERCIAL RETAIL CENTER.

SO LOTS OF THE SOUTH AND THE EAST ARE ZONED AND ARE DEVELOPED WITH DUPLEX RESIDENCES FURTHER TO THE EAST ALONG JOLLYVILLE ROAD.

THERE'S ENOUGH, TWO ZONE TRACKS THAT IS DEVELOPED WITH A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE THE SHADOW OAKS APARTMENTS TO THE WEST THERE'S P D ZONING THAT CONTAINS FINANCE FINANCIAL SERVICES USE AN AUSTIN TELCO.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AND THAT THE REZONING TO REDEVELOP THIS PROPERTY WITH A MULTIFAMILY USE WITH APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 26 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS, AND THAT'S THREE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS, MEDIUM DISTRICT, MEDIUM DENSITY, DISTRICT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.

ATTRACTIVE LAND MEETS THE INTENT AT THE MFD DISTRICT AS IT IS LOCATED ON AN ARCHER, BUT WAY IN AN AREA WITH AVAILABLE COMMERCIAL SERVICES, THE PROPERTY FUNDS ON DISSOLUBLE ROAD, DESIGNATED ACTIVITY QUARTER, AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE 83 AND MCNEIL NEIGHBORHOODS CENTER AS CALLED OUT BY THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CONFERENCES PLANT.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN, UM, WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND MR. DAVID SPANS, AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

USE ME, LET ME CLEAR MY THROAT HERE.

SO, UH, GOOD EVENING.

UM, ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS IS DAVID SPATCH.

I AM THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY AND I MADE THE APPLICATION TO REZONE IT FROM AS MR. RAY, THIS LAYS OUT VERY CLEARLY.

THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY .

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE THAN A DOZEN SOLID REASONS TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY.

SOME OF THESE WILL BE REPEATS OF MR RADIUS, BUT IT WON'T TAKE ME VERY LONG TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST.

UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AUSTIN TELCO, FEDERAL CREDIT UNION DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH.

UM, WEST OF THIS PROPERTY IS MOSTLY THE WATER QUALITY FIELD FOR THE CREDIT UNION.

AND THAT WILL NOT BE CHANGED OR IMPACTED ACROSS THE STREET ARE ALL COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND SERVICES, BUSINESSES THAT WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH THE NINE 83 AND TO JOLLYVILLE ROAD.

UNLESS THE RESIDENCE OF THIS TV BUILT COMPLEX WERE ABLE TO WALK TO MOST EVERY SERVICE, INCLUDING A GROCERY STORE IN A PHARMACY.

UM, THERE IS A METRO BUS SERVICE, 0.2 MILES AWAY.

AND I THINK IN, IN THE STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS IT'S NOT WITHIN A QUARTER MILE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

AND I BELIEVE THE STAFF HAS OTHER DATA THAT SAYS IT'S 1200 FEET AWAY FROM METRO BUS SERVICE, THE THROUGH 83 ROUTE.

UM, I PLAN TO DEVELOP, USE THE SMART DESIGN ALLOWANCE, AND THAT WILL RESULT IN AT LEAST FIVE AFFORDABLE UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND ADDITIONALLY, SINCE THE SITE IS COMPLETELY FLAT, I EXPECT I CAN GO TO ACCESSIBLE UNITS ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

ALSO, THE SITE HAS SEVEN MATURE OAK

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TREES THAT ARE 40 FEET TALL.

IN ADDITION, THERE ARE MORE OAK TREES.

I'M NOT ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HELPED BUFFER THE PROPERTY FROM ANY ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.

UM, A THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDING IS LIKELY 30 TO 32 FEET TALL, AND THE NO LADY LOOKS OVER THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE OTHER TREES.

THIS STREET, THIS LOCATION HAS A WALK SCHOOL IN THE MID SEVENTIES.

THAT MEANS THAT MOST ALUMS CAN BE DONE BY WALKING AND THE PATIENT IS VILLAIN WALKABLE.

THERE'S THE PATIENT HAS A BIKE SCORE IN THE EIGHTIES.

THAT MEANS THIS LOCATION.

YOU HEARD BIKEABLE AS A TRANSIT SCORE IS 40 AND IT'S PRETTY CONVENIENT TO METRO BUS.

AS I STATED EARLIER, UM, JADA ROAD HAS A TRAFFIC LANE IN EACH DIRECTION, THE CEMETERY AND BIKE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.

THERE'S A LIBRARY OF 1.1 MILES AWAY.

GREAT HILLS PARK IS 1.4 MILES AWAY, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS AN IDEAL SITE FOR MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY, MF THREE.

AND HONESTLY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPATZ AND I SEE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OPPOSED IS MR. RICK ANDERSON AND MR. RICK ANDERSON, THANK YOU FOR SIGNING UP AGAIN AND FOR SPEAKING AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE MY AGE ACTION TO THIS REZONING.

MY FAMILY HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 75 OH SIX CHELSEA MORRIS, SINCE THE MID SEVENTIES PRIVACY, THE CURRENT AREAS PROPERTIES AND HAVE BEEN SINCE BEING BUILT IN THE SEVENTIES.

SIMILAR SS TO SF RECONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM IN THIS AREA.

THE INTRODUCTION OF MF THREE HIGH DENSE MEDIUM DENSITY WITH TWO AND STORY CONSTRUCTION WILL CREATE PRIVACY CONCERNS IN BACKYARDS AND WINDOWS FACING THIS PROJECT.

THIS WILL AFFECT APPROXIMATELY 15 SF TWO AND ASSET THREE PROPERTY AND ELIMINATE FAMILY PRIVACY.

THIS REZONING WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC ON AND OFF JOLLYVILLE ROAD IN NEGATIVELY AFFECT DRIVERS AND BICYCLISTS.

SINCE THERE ARE NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING AREAS, RESIDENTS WILL BE AT RISK CROSSING JOLLYVILLE ROAD.

THERE'S ONLY ONE MF TO CONSTRUCTION SHADOW OAKS APARTMENT THAT IS A LOW DENSITY PROPERTY.

THE INTRODUCTION OF MEDIUM DENSITY CONSTRUCTION, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS 50 YEAR LAND ZONING AND USE PLAN.

IT CREATES A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.

THIS WILL INTRODUCE A MAXIMUM OF 28 UNITS INTO A 0.78 ACRE AREA, WHICH HISTORICALLY WOULD ACCOMMODATE 7.5600000000000005 UNITS.

THIS IS AN INCREASE AT 371% A HUGE INCREASE FOR A SMALL PROPERTY.

THE AUSTIN TELCO PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES AND COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE INTO 72 MF THREE UNITS.

GOOD CHANGES PROPERTY FROM A GREEN BELT INTO A CROWDED AREA WITH A HUNDRED PLUS UNITS IN A VERY SMALL AREA IN TODAY'S SCENE, MS. THREE MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING INTO THIS AREA WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT PROPERTY VALUES, CITY COUNTY SCHOOL AND DISTRICT TAXES.

RENT VALUES WILL BE LOWERED AND THE ABILITY TO SELL PROPERTIES REDUCED THIS ALSO WILL REDUCE RE REDUCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AREA.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ANDERSON AND MR. SPATZ, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO REBUT MR. SPATZ.

SURE.

COMMISSIONED LIAISON, ANDREW VERA.

UH, JUST A REMINDER TO PARTICIPANTS.

THEY MAY HAVE TO SELECT STAR SIX 28 .

I DID NOT HEAR THAT.

ANDREW CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW, OR JUST A REMINDER TO PARTICIPANTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

[00:15:08]

OKAY.

ME WITH THE BAT EARS AND NOISE GOING ON OUTSIDE.

DID NOT HEAR THAT AGAIN.

SO COMMISSIONERS, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM TO HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE HIS MIC AND HE'S NOT UNMUTING HIS MIC.

SO WE'RE JUST TO THANK YOU.

I'M NOT MY PHONE.

WASN'T SHOWING ME AS BEING MUTED.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

HELLO.

OKAY.

THIS IS DAVID.

SO I AGREE WITH MR. ANDERSON'S CONCERNS ABOUT PRIVACY.

THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROVES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BLOCKING AND SHIELDING ONE BUILDING FROM ANOTHER KELLYVILLE IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD.

SO YOU DO EXPECT TRAFFIC ON IT.

AND YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE THAT I GOT A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR, IT WAS BUILT IN 1940.

AND AT THAT TIME, I'M SURE JOLLYVILLE WAS VERY, VERY RURAL AT THIS TIME.

THAT ERA IS, IS, IS REALLY CLOSE TO APPLE'S CAMPUS AND A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

THAT'S JUST A COUPLE OF MILES FURTHER EAST AND, UM, SIDEWALKS ARE LIKELY TO BE REQUIRED WHEN I BUILD THERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START TO GET SIDEWALKS ON JOLLYVILLE ROAD.

IT'S GOING TO BE VERY POSITIVE FOR THE TAX SPACE.

LET'S JUST SAY THERE'S 20 UNITS AT ASSESSED TO 300,000 EACH AT A 2% TAX RATE.

THAT'S 120,000 A YEAR OF ADDITIONAL TAX BASIS.

UM, AUSTIN IS THE SEVENTH BIGGEST GAP BETWEEN AVERAGE MORTGAGE PAYMENT, AVERAGE RENT IN THE ENTIRE US NUMBER.

ONE'S MANHATTAN, NUMBER TWO, SAN FRANCISCO, SAN JOSE IN OAKLAND.

AND THERE'S AWESOME AT NUMBER SEVEN, MS. PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET MULTIFAMILY BERLIN'S BUILT, UM, ZONING AS YOU WELL KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, IS, IS, UM, A VERY OLD PLAN.

UM, SO THIS IS A POSITIVE PROJECT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, I ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW, UM, WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HEY, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DUNKIN, OR HE RAISED HIS HAND AND SECOND COMMISSIONER SMITH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO EVEN SEE VERY SMALL INDICATIONS THAT SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

SO WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST, PLEASE GO AND MAKE A MOTION.

SAY SOMETHING.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BRAY.

SORRY.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

UH, I DIDN'T SEE A MILLION MISSING IT, BUT I'M NOT SEEING LIKE WHERE ON THE PROPERTY, THE APARTMENTS GOING TO BE LIKE WE'RE FLOATING THROUGH THE TREES.

UH, CAN THE APPLICANT SAY SOMETHING KIND OF MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW MOM.

WHERE'S THE DEPARTMENT'S GOING TO BE AND WHERE THOSE TREES ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN A RELIGION.

OKAY.

CAN YOU, MR. SPANS? YES.

OKAY.

THE WAY WE, WE SEE TWO POSSIBLE SITE PLANS, BASICALLY, I THINK THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, ONE IS KIND OF IN THE BACK CENTER AND ONE IS MORE TOWARDS THE FRONT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SEVEN TREES ON THE PROPERTY, THEY KIND OF CONTROL WHERE WE CAN BUILD.

AND THERE'S TWO BUILDING PADS THAT WOULD TAKE A THREE STORY, UM, 10 TO 12, POSSIBLY A 14 UNIT BUILDING.

AND TYPICALLY I LIKE TO BUILD TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS THAT ARE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

SO THE FOOTPRINT OF THOSE, UM, THOSE KINDS OF BUILDINGS WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE 6,000 SQUARE FEET, THE PARKING LOT UNDERNEATH, AND TWO STORIES ABOVE.

IS THAT A CLEAR ENOUGH DESCRIPTION? AND MAYBE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTO, I THINK THAT MR. LATUS HAS IN THERE, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TREES AND TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

I REALLY ONLY ASSESSED FOUR WATTS EAST.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, YES, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES CAN SEE SOMETHING.

ALL I CAN SEE IT AS A WHITE SCREEN WITH SEE ONE ON IT.

IS THERE SOMETHING I NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE MATERIAL THAT'S BEING PRESENTED? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'VE BEEN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING ONLINE, I'VE BEEN, I AM USING TWO COMPUTERS.

SO IS THERE, I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE SCREEN.

YEAH.

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I CAN NOT SEE ANYTHING.

OBVIOUSLY MY PELVIC CHAMP, BECAUSE YOU'RE STARING DOWNWARD WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF SEEING WHAT THE SITE PLAN IS PROPOSED.

WE'RE NOT SEEING THE SIDE PLAN.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PAGE 12, BUT THE BACKUP AND WE HAVE OUR BACKUP OPENED IN A SEPARATE WINDOW.

OH, WELL, I'M NOT, I'M NOT THAT SOPHISTICATED.

FUCK.

AFTER THIS META, YOU CAN TEACH ME ABOUT SPRING SHARING.

SO I NEED TO, I NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SCREEN WITH THE BACKUP TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT IN THE SITE PLAN.

MMM.

I CAN MINIMIZE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

GO TO MEETINGS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AM I AS THAT? AND THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN CLICK THE EMAIL FROM ANDREW AND IT'LL OPEN THE BACKUP IN A BROWSER WINDOW AND YOU CAN MINIMIZE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

AND THEN YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK.

YOU GOT IT.

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE ALMOST THERE.

WELL, NO, I'VE GOT THE, I'VE GOT THE ZONING CHANGE A FEW FEET.

UH, WHICH PAGE NUMBER? MR. ROBBINS.

THANKS.

PAGE 12 OF 25.

UH, OH, OKAY.

YEAH.

HE'S NOT GOING TO DO A I PLAN UNTIL HE GETS TO THE POINT WHERE HE CAN DO A SITE PLAN MONEY.

NOW, NOW HELP ME GET BACK TO THE PICTURE.

SO THE PICTURES ON PAGE 12 AND IT'S, IF YOU LOOK FROM ABOVE ON PAGE 12, YOU CAN SEE THE DARK GREEN.

THAT'S WHERE THE TREES ARE BETRAYED AND THE WHITE BASICALLY OPEN AREA.

AND SO THOSE WHITE, THE WHITE IN THE CENTER BACK AND THEN TOWARDS THE FRONT IS THE TWO BUILDING PAD SITES.

UM, AND BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND WHERE GOING CHELSEA LOOK AT HOW MANY OTHER THREES ARE IN BETWEEN MY CREDIT UNION PROPERTY.

I JUST TRIED TO GET BACK INTO THE VIDEO PORTION AND THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

OH, YOU CAN'T.

I'VE GOT, I GO BACK AND IT SAYS START ALL OVER.

WE CAN SEE YOU.

WELL, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T, DON'T GO TO YOUR BROWSER THING AND YOU CAN GO TO THE APP.

DON'T I'M ON MY A HOLD ON.

I JUST, OKAY, WELL WE CAN SEE YOU SO WE KNOW YOU'RE SELLING YOUR VIDEO, MR. BLAKE.

I CAN SEE YOU NOW.

THANK YOU, RIGHT.

I'M SORRY TO STALL THIS, BUT I NEEDED MORE TRAINING.

OKAY.

NOW DON'T WE ALL? UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GARY.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR APPLICANT TEAMMATE.

WE REFERENCED TO SMART COUNSELING IS TARGETING OR OFFERING.

I'M SORRY.

YOU BROKE UP AND I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND THAT QUESTION.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, SO YOU MADE REFERENCE TO THE SMART HOUSING.

WHAT LEVEL OF BUY ARE YOU WILLING TO OFFER OR PUT ON THE TABLE FOR THIS PROJECT? IS IT 60%? 80%? 30%.

I BELIEVE IT IS 80%, I BELIEVE IS THE FIRST FIVE UNITS.

UM, MS. SHERRY, MR. ADDIS, IS THAT CORRECT? AS I UNDERSTAND, SMART, FIVE, FIVE UNITS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE AFFORDABLE AT NO MORE THAN 80%.

IT COULD BE LOWER, BUT IT CAN'T BE HIGHER.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER DANCLER QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN THE BACKUP THAT INDICATES THAT THEY'VE APPLIED FOR HOUSING.

UM, MR. RAY, THIS, ARE YOU AWARE OF AN APPLICATION TO THAT EFFECT AN APPLICATION FOR WHAT PLEASE? UH, IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF, SIR, UH, FOR MR. WEIGHTNESS, UH, YOU'RE INDICATING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO SMART HOUSING UNITS, BUT OUR BACKUP

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DOESN'T, UM, HAVE AN APPLICATION.

MAYBE I MISSED IT IN THE TEXT, BUT USUALLY WE GET BACK THAT INDICATES THEY'RE SMART HOUSING.

SO I WAS CHECKING THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS THE CASE.

THERE IS NO APPLICATION BEEN MADE YET.

IF, IF, UM, IS JOHNNY AND PATTON DOES NOT APPROVE MULTIFAMILY THREE, THEN IT'S NOT LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD SMART HOUSING.

OKAY.

UM, THESE ARE IN FOOD, WE'VE DONE PRELIMINARY LOOKING AT ARCHITECTURE AND SITE PLANNING.

CIVIL ENGINEERING HAS BEEN DONE.

WE KNOW WHERE THE SEWER AND THE WEATHER IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE HAVE A CLOSED ZONING, UM, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO BE DONE.

SO I THINK THE CHALLENGE I HAVE IS WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, WE COULD FEEL ETHICALLY APPROVED THE REZONING AND NOT HAVE ANY GUARANTEE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

SO I'M SORRY, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN, I DON'T SEE THAT WE COULD CONDITION THAT.

SO, UM, MAYBE AS PART OF EMOTION, WE SHOULD BE, UM, INDICATING IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR BELIEF THAT THAT WOULD BE THE CASE.

I LOOKING FOR A LITTLE STAFF HELP HERE ON THE MOTION.

SHERRY, WE CANNOT REQUIRE SMART HOUSING STANDARDS THEN CASE THIS WAS NOT A SMART HOUSING APPLICATION.

OKAY.

AND THE APPLICANT CAN OFFER TO DO IT PRIVATELY, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN REQUIRE IN A STANDARD ZONING CASE.

OKAY.

CHAIR? YES.

THIS IS DAVID KING.

OH, GREAT.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

AS A FOLLOW UP TO THAT LAST QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER DANCLER, UH, AND, AND, UH, IT'S UH, REGARDING THE SMART HOUSING, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, UM, THIS, THIS IS NOT A SMART HOUSING APPLICATION, BUT IF THEY WERE TO DO IT, WHAT WAS THE LENGTH OF TIME? UH, WHAT WOULD THE INCOME RESTRICTED PERIOD BE ON? MY UNDERSTANDING IS FOR SMART HOUSING IT'S FIVE YEARS.

SO IF IT WERE A SMART HOUSING APPLICATION, COULD STAFF VERIFY IF THAT, UH, AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS FIVE YEARS, COMMISSIONER KING, THE STAFF DID NOT LOOK AT THIS CASE FOR SMART HOUSING BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A SMART HOUSING APPLICATION.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF IT'S SMART HOUSING IT'S FIVE YEARS AND, UH, IF IT GETS TAX CREDITS, IT COULD BE LONGER THAN THAT.

SO, UH, ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE AND SHARE.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IF I MAY, BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT SHE, YES.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YES.

UM, I'M TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB OF MUTING.

UM, DOES ANYBODY I'LL GET BACK TO YOU? I'LL SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO THE DAVID.

THANK YOU.

HELLO CLARIFICATION.

AND ONE RELATES TO WHAT COMMISSIONER KING WAS ASKING ABOUT.

UM, I GOT, I APPRECIATE THIS COMING BACK.

LET ME ASK A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

I THOUGHT THE INSTRUCTIONS WE GOT FROM ANDREW, I HAD A FAMILY ON THIS CASE.

WE WERE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE MARRIAGE OF A OH NO, THAT WAS WRONG.

NEVERMIND.

THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU WROTE DOWN SCRIPTS, RIGHT? IF THAT COMES UP, YOU'RE WELCOME, RIGHT? YEAH.

I AM FAMILIAR WITH THEIR SITE AND IT'S A UNIQUE SITE.

IT'S I ALSO THINK THAT THE APPLICANT IS CLEARED JUST RECENTLY.

CAUSE I KNOW I SAW IT.

I WENT BY A MONTH AGO AND THERE'S A HOUSE ON IT.

I WENT BACK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

IT'S BEEN CLEARED.

IT BACKS UP ON ONE OF OUR BETTER PLANNED AREAS.

IT'S A, IT'S AT DUPLEXES ON ONE SIDE AND UH, UH, IT'S SORT OF AN INTERESTING AREA.

I LIVE IN OAK FOREST, WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND IT.

AND UM, THE, UM, THE THING THAT I THINK BOTHERS ME THE MOST THAT'S ABOUT IT IS A SUITABLE SITE MOLD.

I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH MY HEAD, UH, AND THE TELCO A DRIVE THROUGH.

SO I'M NOT BALDWIN.

UH, AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE TELCO SIDE NEXT TO IT, IT'S ALL CUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROMISES, BUT THE TELCO A FACILITY ONLY ONLY TAKES ABOUT A FOURTH OR A THIRD OF THE PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE BACK IS DEVELOPABLE IN THE FUTURE.

AND IF THIS WOULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR THAT, THAT'S A QUESTION THAT SHERRY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IN A MOMENT.

UH, I THINK THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME AND IT'S NOT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THE CASE YET IS THAT, UH, WE ALWAYS SEE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE

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WE'RE APPROACHING PLANNING AND ZONING FROM A, UH, A BOGO BUSINESS SAYING, GOD, I WANT TO GET ONE EXTRA ART.

UH, IN LOUISIANA, YOU HAD CALLED IT OWEN YET, BUT IT'S SOMETHING EXTRA.

I DON'T SEE WHERE MF THREE IS A VALID REQUEST ON THIS SITE.

THERE IS NO MF THREE WITHIN A MILE OF THIS SITE.

THE ONLY REAL MUMBLE FAMILY ON JOLLYVILLE IN THIS AREA IS THE SHADOW, WHICH IS A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT.

AND THEN SUDDENLY IT'S PUT IN PLACE, WHICH I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF MY FELLOW PEOPLE OUT HERE THAT WE HAVE SOME ELECTIONS COMING UP.

UH, SO, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE SAID THAT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING ELSE, BUT IF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS OF THE FISHERMEN, GET ON THERE.

IT'S, IT'S LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE A 0.7, EIGHT ACRE, UH, MS. TRUE WOOD.

TO ME, IT'D BE A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT.

THE BOTTOM LINE, IT WOULD PRODUCE ABOUT 17 UNITS INSTEAD OF IF IT'S 20, 26, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UH, BUT IT WOULD BE A MORE COMPATIBLE.

IT WOULD BE MORE, UH, A BETTER RELATED AS FAR AS THROUGH TRAFFIC IMPACT ON JOLLYVILLE.

UH, AND IT WOULD NOT SET A BAD PRECEDENT.

I THINK A LOT OF OUR CASES WHERE WE ADD THAT EXTRA MATH, IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT WHAT THE REAL DANGER IS, WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT.

CAUSE I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT FUTURE ADVOCATES AND STAFF ARE, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, YOU GOT THEM AT THREE, THEY'RE GIVING YOU AN MSP HERE.

WHEN IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MSV, IT SHOULD'VE BEEN SOMETHING LAST.

I'M SORRY TO TAKE SO LONG ON THAT.

BUT I WENT TO GET EVERYTHING OUT.

I THINK THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS A PROFIT FROM ALL OF MY FAMILY.

I'M GLAD THAT IT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

IT IS VERY ACCESSIBLE TO COMMERCIAL AS THE STAFF IS SET IT'S ACROSS THE STREET.

UH, BUT, UH, I JUST THINK WE'RE TRYING TO STUFF THE HELL UP ON HIM DOING A DOG, A DOG HOUSE AND PUTTING TOO MANY UNITS IN ONE PLACE.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID ABOUT IT.

SURE.

MAY I FOLLOW UP HERE? COMMISSIONER KING? YES.

AND COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.

YOU WERE, YOU WERE READING MY MIND BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS HEADED WITH THIS.

WHEN I LOOK AT, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SAYING, THEY WANT TO DO, IT'S ABOUT 20 UNITS ROUGHLY THERE.

AND, UH, UH, GUESS WHAT IT SAYS UP TO 23 UNITS, SAYS UP TO 36 UNITS.

AND SO ANYTIME THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU GIVE A ZONING CATEGORY THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO THIS HIGHER NUMBER, YOU ALWAYS TRY TO, AS COMMISSIONER DUNKIN SAYS, SQUEEZE AN ELEPHANT INTO A DOGHOUSE HERE.

AND SO I THINK A MORE APPROPRIATE, UH, ZONING CATEGORY, AN MF TOO.

CAUSE THAT'S MORE BECAUSE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY, 20, 20 UNITS, THEY ARE AT THIS SIDE.

SO THAT SEEMS TO BE FIT THAT SEEMS TO FIT.

AND SO, UM, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS COULD THE STAFF, UH, APPLICANT CLARIFY THE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIKE THREE BEDROOMS? ARE THEY ALL GOING TO BE TWO BEDROOMS OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE THREE BEDROOMS? OR HOW, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UM, I DON'T THINK I CAN ASKED HER THAT QUESTION YET BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THE DENSITY AND WHAT WILL FIT.

OKAY.

AND WITH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY, WE'LL GET MORE UNITS.

YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET ONE BEDROOMS, SOME, TWO BEDROOMS, AND A TYPICAL, I LIKE TO BUILD TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM FAMILIES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER TIME FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONER EVANS, WHAT IS THE HEIGHT LIMITATION VERSUS JERRY, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT FOR US? YES.

SO THE HEIGHT LIMIT 40 FEET OR THREE STORIES.

THE HEIGHT LIMIT ON MFC IS 40 FEET.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO HE CAN STILL BUILD WITH HIS PARKING UNDER AND, AND HIS TWO UNITS ARE TWO FLOORS ABOVE, BUT ALSO JUST A, JUST A SLIDE POINT.

BUT REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD THIS CASE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND APPROVED IT AT OUR LAST MEETING.

AND WHEN HE A NEIGHBORHOOD, A GENTLEMEN GAME CAME TO SPEAK AND WE FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS ON THE WRONG CASE WHEN HE CAME TO SPEAK, WE BROUGHT THIS CASE BACK ALIVE.

SO JUST WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? THE, UH, EVERYTHING LOOKED OKAY TWO WEEKS AGO AND NOW I'VE DONE.

RAY HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST.

SO GO AHEAD, MR. BRAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I GUESS I WOULD KIND

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OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT, WHY HE'S APPLIED FOR MS. THREE INSTEAD OF MSU .

THIS IS DAVID THE APPLICANT.

I THINK MS. THREE IS APPROPRIATE MEDIUM DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

I BELIEVE MR. RAY, THIS REPORT COVERS THAT VERY CLEARLY.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING 17 MINUTES THERE, 2040 MINUTES IS AFFORDABILITY.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT'S AFFORDABILITY.

IT SPREADS THE LAND COST, THE SEWER COST OF WATER COSTS OVER MORE UNITS.

THE SIDEWALK COST.

COULD YOU GIVE A NUMBERS ESTIMATE ON THAT? I MEAN, MAYBE YOU CAN'T, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY BALLPARK FIGURES ON WHAT YOU THINK THE DIFFERENCE MIGHT BE? I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MF MF THREE, LETS YOU PUT UP TO 50% IN YOUR UNIT UP TO 50% MORE UNITS.

SO YOU'RE SPREADING THOSE COSTS, THOSE SIX COSTS, ALL THOSE THINGS DRIVE AWAY ACROSS MORE UNITS, BUT MAKE THEM AFFORDABLE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SMITH.

OKAY.

UM, WOULD, WHAT OUT CAN BE TO APPROVE MF BREE, BUT RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO 26 AND THAT WOULD GET THE DELIMITATION DOWN THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND IT WOULD GET WOULD BE THERE.

CAN'T GET THEIR AD UNITS, BUT WE CAN DO HIM AT THREE LIMIT NUMBER OF UNITS.

THAT WILL BE AN OPTION TO DO MS. BREA AND LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

SORRY, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION COMMISSIONER SMITH.

I'M SURE I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF POSITIONS.

2016.

OKAY.

AND SECOND, MY COMMISSIONER EVANS.

AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, UM, TO MF THREE, BUT A CONDITION TO ONLY ALLOW 26 UNITS.

CORRECT.

UNLESS SOMEONE HAS A BETTER NUMBER ONE OF THE 26TH, SO YEAH.

OKAY.

GREAT QUESTION.

AND WHO SAID YEAH.

OKAY.

WHY DON'T I GO I'M ACTUALLY, UM, I WILL GO, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER DUNKIN FIRST AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER KING.

UH, OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE BASICALLY GIVING HIM WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR.

YOU GUYS WERE PLAYING A NUMBER OF SPEEDING.

DMS THREE IS A 36 UNITS PER ACRE.

HE DOESN'T HAVE A NAME FOR IT.

HE HAS POINTS SEVEN, EIGHT OF AN ACRE, WHICH ACTUALLY RATCHETED THEM SET OUT TO 28 UNITS SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT ZONING AND LIMIT IT TO 28.

I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO UNITS.

I JUST DON'T GET CONFUSED BY NUMBERS ON THAT.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT COMMISSIONER CHANGE APPROACH.

AGAIN, THIS WAS A PLACE WHERE FAMILY SIZE UNITS WOULD BE PERFECT.

I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE GOOD SCHOOLS AROUND HERE AND THEY HAVE CAPACITY, UH, AND THE LOWER, THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THE BIGGER THE UNITS ARE GONNA BE.

HE'S STILL GONNA MAKE MONEY.

HE'S JUST GONNA BUILD MORE THREE BEDROOM.

THEY EVEN SAID THAT HIMSELF YOU'LL GIVE THE HIGHER ON THAT ARE GOING TO BE ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM AND STUDIO.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND MS. UH, AND BLESS THEM TO BUILD THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

WE NEED MORE HOUSING OUT IN THE SECOND EMOTION.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER KINGO SECOND.

THE MOTION.

OKAY.

MOTION, A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR , UH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR UM, AND IF NOT, WHY DON'T WE JUST TAKE A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KING, SECOND DUNCAN FOR MF TWO ZONING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE.

SO I'M KATIE JOLENE.

HOW EMOTIONS I HAD THE MOTION BEING BY BENEFIT AND SECOND BY KEY.

OKAY.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'LL COUNT OUT YOUR NAMES.

COMMISSIONER TENDON COMMISSIONER DINKLER COMMISSIONER GEARY, COMMISSIONER DUNK, UH, DANK DUNCAN COMMISSIONER.

KOBASA IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE'S HANDS I'M MISSING.

OKAY.

THEN THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

COMMISSIONER RAY COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER RIVER RAMIREZ AND COMMISSIONER BRAY AND COMMISSIONER EVANS.

AND SO I DID IS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S A FIVE, FIVE STANDOFF.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION DOES NOT PASS AND NOW WE'LL VOTE ON THE, THE ORIGINAL MOTION FOR AND LIMITED TO 26 BY COMMISSIONER SMITH

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AND, AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER EVANS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF WITH THE LIMIT ON 26, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS COMMISSIONER QUESTION.

AND THAT'S BEFORE THAT, UM, I KNOW WE'RE LIMITING IT TO 26 UNITS.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE ON WHAT ARE WE, WHY DON'T WE FINISH THIS VOTE? CAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

SO IF EVERY COMMISSIONER AT KAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER BURRELL, RAMIREZ, COMMISSIONER, BRAY, COMMISSIONER RAY, AND COMMISSIONER EVANS, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

AND THEN WE'LL JUST START WITH THIS CLEAN SLATE.

AND THAT IS KING DANCLER A GARY DUNCAN AND KOBASA OKAY.

NOW, UM, WE CAN DO ANOTHER MOTION AND UM, TRY TO DO SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE WHAT'S WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO? BUT GET A RESOLUTION ON THIS SILENCE AND IT'S NOT, THEN WE CAN JUST GUIDE ON WHAT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN TWO AND THREE KIND OF SEE I CAN ANSWER THAT.

WE WANT INFORMATION.

HI.

YES, THANKS.

OKAY.

SO I WAS WE TO KNOW THE HIGHEST REQUIREMENTS BETWEEN TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH 40 FEET.

UH, THE SETBACKS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME.

THE DIFFERENCE COMES IN AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THAT'S TO A ZONING DISTRICT HAS 50% IN IS KIND OF A 55 AND IN BUILDING COVERAGE, IT'S 60 FOR AND 65 FOR MS. THREE.

AND THE TWO DOES NOT HAVE A MAXIMUM FOUR TO AREA RATIO DESIGNATION, AND THAT'S THREE HAS 0.75 TO ONE.

SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO SPEAK, I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR SHERRY.

IS THERE ANYTHING RELATING TO THE SIZE OF THE UNITS? IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY BE A CERTAIN SIZE? NO, THAT DEPENDS ON THE UNIT ITSELF, WHETHER IT'S ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, THREE AND A HALF.

OKAY.

COULD YOU ASK THAT AGAIN? COMMISSIONER DENCKLA FOR IT JUST GARBLED, JUST THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, DIFFERENT IN MF TO AN MF THREE.

UM, I KNEW IT WAS FOR MF THROWING AN MF FLOOR.

SO IS THERE A SIZE DIFFERENCE? YOU SAID IT WAS RELATING TO BEDROOMS. SO WHAT'S THE SIZE OF THE UNIT FOR ONE BEDROOM AND A TWO BEDROOM AND MF TWO VERSUS MFC.

WELL, I'D HAVE TO PULL THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.

I PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE THAT CARES.

SO ALL GO THROUGH ALL THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

IS THERE GOING TO BE AN ATTEMPTED ANOTHER MOTION? YES.

MY MOTION IS SIMPLY THAT WE APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

OKAY.

GREAT APPROVAL IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR .

IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRAY? MMM.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MF THREE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND THAT IS COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER BERRERA RAMIREZ COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER EVANS, AND COMMISSIONER RAY, AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

AND THAT IS COMMISSIONER KING, COMMISSIONER HANNAH.

I MEAN COMMISSIONER DANGLER, COMMISSIONER, GARY COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, AND ANOTHER FIVE FIVE.

AND UNLESS WE THINK WE HAVE, WE CAN COME TO SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST CALL IT A NO RECOMMENDATION GOING ON TO COUNCIL.

UM, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS ANOTHER IDEA, I GUESS MY POINT I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ON THE FAR, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME THAT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.

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UM, AND IF OUR CONCERN, YOU KNOW, WELL THE UNIT, THE UNIT COUNT AND ALSO THE FAR, AND I'M WONDERING IS IF YOU DID MF TWO, IF YOU WOULD REALLY GET BIGGER UNITS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THE, UM, IF THEY LIKE ACTUALLY MAYBE I KINDA CONFUSED ON THAT, WHICH ONE TWICE, BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE NO, IS IT, THE MF ALLOWS SLIGHTLY MORE DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE PER THE UNIT SIZE, UM, NOT AS BIG OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS JUST LIKE DIVIDING IT BY THE UNIT ACCOUNT.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

UH, SO I ASSUME THAT'S A QUESTION FOR US, I GUESS I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING A POINT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY OBSERVATION AND MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS BETTER THAN I DO.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION, BUT JUST A COMMENT THAT SOMEONE CAN, IF SOMEONE HAS A RESPONSE TO, THEY CAN MAKE .

OKAY.

SO I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION BETWEEN AND AT, AS FAR AS THE, THE SIZE OF THE BEDROOM, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

SO I HAD, OKAY, SO FOR MS TO THE MINIMUM SITE AREA FOR A EFFICIENCIES WELLING UNIT IS 1600 FEET MINIMUM SIDE AREA FOR A ONE BEDROOM DWELLING UNIT WILL BE 12, A 2000 MINIMUM SQUARE FEET FOR A TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS WOULD BE 2,400 SQUARE FEET.

WHEN YOU GET TO .

THE MINIMUM SIDE AREAS FOR A DWELLING UNIT, AGAIN IS 1,200 SQUARE FEET FOR A ONE BEDROOM IS 1,500 SQUARE FEET.

AND FOR A TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS, WELLING UNIT WOULD BE 1,800 SQUARE FEET SO YOU CAN DO SMALLER SIZES UNDER MF THREE .

OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO CHAIR, WOULD THAT INFORMATION IN MIND? MAY I BE RECOGNIZED? UM, OH, GO AHEAD.

SO WOULD THAT INFORMATION MIND AND FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME FAMILIES WITH KIDS IN THIS AREA HERE, I THINK THIS, THIS KIND OF HELPS TO JUSTIFY WHY EMF TWO WOULD ACTUALLY BE A BETTER, BETTER ZONING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT THE MOTION FOR , UM, UH, RESTRICTED TO 26 UNITS.

YOU HAD THAT BACKWARDS IN THAT TWO, THREE WILL ENCOURAGE WAIT, WAIT.

SO W WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THOUGHT THAT SHERRY SAID THAT WE YOU'D GET SMALLER UNITS.

THAT'S THE REASON THERE'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SIDE AREA REQUIRED FOR A GIVEN UNIT SIZE.

I SEE.

SO I GOT IT NOW.

OKAY.

I'M WITH YOU.

SO THIS MEANS IT'S, IT'S I'M WITH YOU NOW.

SO I, I HEAR YOU.

SO YOU'RE HAVING TO USE MORE OF THE, UH, MORE OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LESS SPACE FOR THE APARTMENT AT THE UNIT ITSELF.

YEAH.

I GOT YOU WHERE YOU CAN ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL IF YOU'RE BOTH FOR OUR EMOTIONS.

YES.

COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.

UM, OH, WELL, YEAH.

WELL, I'M IT.

I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID EARLIER, BUT, UH, IF, IF WE WANT LARGER UNITS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SMALLER DANCER.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST AN ECONOMIC TYPE ISSUE.

UH, BUT I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH SENDING JUST THE COUNCIL WITH A FIVE.

UH, UH, THERE ARE ARGUMENTS BOTH WAYS, BUT I THINK THAT COMPETITIVE TO CALL IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

IT'S ADJACENT TO DUPLEXES, UH, AND, UH, UH, WE HAVE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN THIS AREA, A BIG PORTION OF THE TRACK NEXT TO IT IS DRAINAGE.

SO A PERVIOUS AREA IS IMPORTANT, UH, AND IT'S A WELL-TREATED AREA.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE SITES I WILL SUPPORT HIGHER DENSITY IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, UH, THE SURROUNDING DENSITIES, UH, THE DRAINAGE NATURE OF THE AREA.

WE HAD ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM HERE TO HOMES THAT WERE TOTALLY FLOODED A FEW YEARS AGO AND THE CITY HAD TO BUY, OKAY.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT PLAYING GAMES.

IT'S NOT AS BAD AS NOW IN YOUR AREA, COMMISSIONER, GARY, BUT WE HAVE PROBLEMS UP HERE AS WELL.

UH, SO I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO STOP PLAYING THE NUMBERS GAME, WHICH IS CONFUSING.

I JUST CAN'T GET TO VOTE.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOT TO BREAK A FIVE, FIVE VOTE DESIGN.

WE'VE GOT FIVE OF US THAT WANNA PUSH THE DENSITY AND FIVE OTHERS, AND I'M WORKING CENTERED ABOUT

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HOW IT FITS INTO THE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK WE WANT TO JUST MOVE FORWARD AND COUNCIL IN THEIR WISDOM WITH ALL THIS.

THIS IS LIKE THE APPLICANT DAVID SAYS, CAN I SPEAK? YEAH, YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

HE MIGHT AS WELL.

NOW WE HAVE CLOSE TO HEARING.

I'M SORRY.

I'M GOING TO SAY NOW THE PARLIAMENTARIAN HAS SPOKEN UNLESS, BUT CAN I SAY UNLESS YOU'RE OFFERING SOMETHING, UM, LET'S, UH, LET'S SAY, UM, LET'S HAVE MR. SPAN SPEAK.

I MEAN, WE'RE SORT OF, WE ARE SORT OF DEADLOCKED IF HE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PUSH US.

GO AHEAD.

SO I GUESS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS, YOU KNOW, AT AND T WOULD ALLOW 17 UNITS UP TO 17 AND THAT THREE WOULD ALLOW UP TO 28, THEN WAS ONE PROPOSAL FOR 26.

UM, I'M PROPOSING YOU SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE AIR AT 23 UNITS, THREE UNITS, IF YOU LIKE.

UM, AND IT GIVES ME MORE UNITS TO SPREAD THOSE FIXED COSTS OVER.

I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS THERE, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE SOMEONE BUY THE UNITS THERE.

AND ALL OF THOSE HOUSING TYPES ARE NEEDED AND LOST HIM HAVING A UNIFORM.

I SAID 22 OR 23, I'M KIND OF SPLITTING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 17 OF .

I THINK THAT'S WHEN TWO AND A HALF.

SO THIS LAST CHANCE, IF ANYBODY'S WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION LIKE THAT, AND IF NOT, WE CAN JUST GO ONTO THE NEXT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR 24 UNITS.

CAN WE HAVE THREE? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

UM, SO, MM THREE WITH THE LIMIT OF 24 UNITS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND THAT'S COMMISSIONER SMITH, EVANS, BRAY, RAY, AND MARIA RAMIREZ, AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND COMMISSIONER KING COMMISSIONER DINKLER, UH, REVIEW DUNKIN AND ME.

SO WE'RE, THAT WAS IT.

I THINK I'M GOING TO CALL IT A DAY ON THAT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPATZ, AND WE WILL GO ON TO OUR NEXT CASE, BUT THANK YOU EVERYBODY ALSO FOR TRYING TO WORK OUT SOMETHING HOUSING APPLICATION.

OKAY.

SO, SO, AND SO THAT'LL GO WITH THAT.

SO GOING

[Item B2]

TO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS B TWO, I BELIEVE, AND I HAVE, UM, AND THAT IS THE REZONING, UM, SH HEY, SHERRY OR SHERRY SERRATUS IS BACK ON AGAIN.

THIS IS ITEM B2, WHICH IS KC 14, 20, 20 ZERO, ZERO.

IT'S LOCATED AT ONE, 1-833-BUCKNER ROAD.

THE REQUEST IS FROM THREE ZONING TO GR ZONING.

THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR GR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A 1.3, THREE ACRE VACANT TRACT OF LAND THAT IS LOCATED ON BUCKNER ROAD.

A LOCAL ROADWAY.

THE PROPERTIES IN NORTH ACROSS BUCKNER ROAD IS UNDEVELOPED AND ZONED WITH DR.

DEVELOPMENT RESERVE.

THE TRACK TO THE SOUTH IS IN VR AND CONTAINS A MANUFACTURED HOME AND THEN DEVELOPED LAND.

THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST ARE ALSO ZONE D ARE UNDER DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THE ATTRACTIVE LAND DIRECTLY TO THE EAST IS ZONED TO SF THREE AND CONTAINS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH STORAGE FURTHER TO THE EAST.

SO ALONG BUTNER ROAD, THERE IS A LOT BEND ELLA OCO.

IT WAS DONE IN A CASE THAT IN 2008, THAT IS DEVELOPED WITH AN OFFICE USE FOR TIME WARNER OR SPECTRUM CABLE.

IN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO REZONE THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION TO THE GR DISTRICT TO DEVELOP AN AUTOMOTIVE SALES USE AT THIS LOCATION, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS OWNING THE PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE GR DISTRICT AS IT IS NOT LOCATED ON A MAJOR ROADWAY WHILE THE STAFF HAS SUPPORTED SOME COMMERCIAL USES AND ZONING ALONG BUCKNER ROAD.

THOSE TRACKS OF LAND WERE LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BUCKNER ROAD AND FM SIX 20.

THE PROPOSED YOUR COMMERCIAL ZONING REQUEST IS LOCATED ON A DESIGNATED SINGLE FAMILY TRACK NEAR THE TERMINUS OF BUCKNER ROAD, A NARROW 20 FOOT LOCAL ROADWAY.

THE PROPERTY.

IN QUESTION, IF THAT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS ADJACENT TO A CREEK OR AUTOMOTIVE USES WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE.

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THE EXISTING THREE ZONING PROVIDES FOR A TRANSITION FROM THE COMMERCIAL ZONING AT THE INTERSECTION OF AND BUCKNER ROAD TO THE OFFICE, ZONING DOWN TO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ALONG BUTNER ROAD, AS IT REACHES ITS TERMINUS TO THE WEST.

THE BASIS FOR THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THIS FOLLOWS.

THE PROPOSED SETTING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PERSON PURPOSE STATEMENT.

AS THE DISTRICT SOUGHT DID.

HERE IS ANY DISTRICT IS DESCRIBED BY THE CODE AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES SERVING NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMERCIAL AND COMMUNITY NEEDS, INCLUDING THOSE UNIFIED SHOPPING CENTERS AND INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUALLY DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL SITES THAT ARE TYPICALLY REQUIRING LOCATIONS ACCESSIBLE FROM MAJOR TRAFFIC WAYS.

THE EXISTING SF THREE SINGLE FAMILY OR FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT IS THE DESIGNATION FOR A MODERATE DENSITY.

SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL USES SUCH AS A DUPLEX ON A LOT.

THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 5,750 SQUARE FEET.

AND AS THREE DISTRICT DESIGNATION MAY BE APPLIED TO YOUTH IN AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MODERATELY FIVE LOTS.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A 20 FOOT WIDE LOCAL COLLECTOR ROADWAY, WHERE IT IS DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING, AND HE SAYS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, THE PROPOSED SHOULD PROMOTE CONSISTENCY IN ORDERLY PLANNING.

BUCKNER ROAD HAS A MIXTURE OF USES FROM SINGLE FAMILY OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE AND STORAGE AND AUTOMOTIVE USES.

HOWEVER, THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF FM SIX 20 ROAD.

THE STAFF HAS CONSISTENTLY RECOMMENDED GR ZONING TO ADEPT AT 500 FEET ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF FM SIX 20 PERMITTING GR ZONING AT THIS LOCATION WILL INTRODUCE COMMERCIAL USES ON ATTRACTIVE LAND THAT IS LOCATED IN AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA WITH LOW VISIBILITY ON A SMALL LOCAL ROADWAY.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDS MAINTAINING THIS.

THE THREE ZONINGS PROVIDE A TRANSITION ON THIS ROADWAY.

THE PROPOSED ZONING SHOULD ALLOW FOR A REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

GIVEN THE MIXED USE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

THIS STAFF BELIEVES THAT SF THREE ZONING WILL ALLOW FOR A FAIR AND REASONABLE USE OF THIS SITE.

THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH SOUTH AND WEST AND EAST ARE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WERE VERIFIED BY T CAB PROPERTY RECORDS.

THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDED ZONING DESIGNATION IN THE CODE IN THE CODE REWRITE.

AND THIS PROPERTY IS LOOKED TO BE DESIGNATED AS OUR TWO A WHICH EQUATES WITH .

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH SOUTH EAST AND WEST ARE SHOWING AN AF 25 DESIGNATION TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING DR.

DEVELOPMENT RESERVE CATEGORY.

THE APPLICANT DOES NOT AGREE WITH THIS FAST RECOMMENDATION, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, RAMEEN AS A VARI AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

HI STAFF, UM, BASICALLY TO START OUT THIS AREA IS ZONED FOR VR, BUT THEN TRY TO SHOOT.

AND BY ANY STANDARD YOU GO BY, IT'S ALREADY BEING USED FOR COMMERCIAL FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE STREET THAT IS OWNED BY BUDGET LEASING.

THAT IS A VOLVO DEALERSHIP GOING THERE FROM MAJORITY PART OF IT.

IF YOU MEASURE THAT STREET, IT IS 0.3 OF AN ACRE.

AND LET ME PUT THREE OF A MILE.

THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES COME OUT TO ALMOST 0.1 TO NINE OF THE ROADWAY.

THAT MEANS IT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE ROADWAY IS BEING USED BY AUTO MECHANICS SHOP SUCH AS, UM, DURING AUTOMOTIVE, UM, UH, AND TWO OF THE DEALERSHIPS AND THEN ANOTHER MECHANIC SHOP PLUS THE VOLVO DEALERSHIP THAT IS GOING RIGHT ACROSS THE ROADWAY, THE PROPERTY THAT IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE ONE, ONE EIGHT, TWO NINE IS BEING ADVERTISED RIGHT NOW, ALL LOOPNET AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO BE LEASED AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE PROPERTIES TO THE RIGHT OF MY PROPERTY.

IT IS, IT IS AN AC COMPANY BY THE NAME OF KENDRA SERVICES AT ONE, TWO ZERO ONE BUCKNER ROAD.

THEN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO THAT IS ONE, TWO ZERO ONE FOR THE GEO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES BEING USED AS A COMMERCIAL THAT IS MICHAEL HANEY, UM, CABINET MAKING COMPANY,

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WHICH I HAVE SUBMITTED ALL OF THESE PROOFS WITH THEM.

YOU CAN SEE IT ON, UM, BASICALLY ON MY, MY, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE ONE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THE PROPERTIES WITH THE CAT NUMBERS, WITH THE TRAVIS COUNTY CAT NUMBERS ON THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT, GOING DOWN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE EVERY PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR.

UM, INCLUDING THE VOLVO DEALERSHIP, AUTO SALES PLACED ALL THE SERVICE SPACE AND EVEN THE ONES THAT ARE BEHIND ME WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, THE ONLY ONE THAT IS NOT BEING USED FOR COMMERCIAL IS THE ONLY PROPERTY ON THAT ROAD THAT IS NOT BEING USED FOR COMMERCIAL AND, AND ON THE SOUTH SOUTH EAST AND SOUTHWEST OF IT IS J AND J S, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT OF MOSTLY THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ON, ON MY, MY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE TWO, UM, PAGE THREE EXHIBIT IS COVERING IT.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IT'S MOSTLY AUTO SALES, UM, TIRE SHOP, UM, MECHANIC SHOP WOLF HEAD SHOP, WHICH IS AN ENGINE REBUILDING COMPANY, AUTOMOTIVE, WHICH IS THE AUTO SALES AND, UH, AND A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER BODY SHOP CALLED CAPITAL AND, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, MOST OF THIS AREA, IT IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S ALREADY ALL BEING USED AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DECREASE THAT IS BACK THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON PAGE SEVEN OF MY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU WILL SEE THAT J S IT SAYS JS AT THE CORNER IS JUST THIS CLOSE TO THE CREEK THAT ARE MAINLY AUTO SERVICE.

AND ALL THE SALES IN THIS PLACE IS AS IT IS MY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

UM, AND ALSO IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, I MEAN, YOU CAN EVEN SEE IT ON PAGE EIGHT AS WELL OF JS, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT GOT LETTERS TO PUT AN INPUT ABOUT THIS REZONING.

AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ON PAGE EIGHT OF IT THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP, ALL THE CARS THAT ARE SO CLOSE TO THE, UM, TO THE CREEK THAT IS BACK THERE.

AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE AC COMPANY THAT IS DOING BUSINESS AS KENDRICK AC SERVICES, WHERE THEY HAVE FREON.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT AC COMPANIES USE AND THE CABINET MAKING BUSINESS THAT IS LITERALLY NEXT DOOR TO ME, AND IS REGISTERED.

AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT IF YOU COME DOWN TO YOU GET TO SEE THE PROOF OF THAT IN PAGE 13, ONE, TWO ZERO TWO FIVE, YOU WILL SEE THE SHOP THAT IS NEXT DOOR TO MY PROPERTY, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THEIR, UM, THEIR VAN, BUT THEY DO THE CABINET THING.

THEY, YOU CAN SEE IT ON PAGE 14, THE, UM, WITH THE TRUCK THAT THEY HAUL EVERYTHING OUT AND IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY, YOU WILL