Jul 10, 2020 Mayor's Committee for People with Disabilities

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CHAIR FRANCIS OUT.

HE WAS IS AUDI ALSO, UH, THIS IS VICE CHAIR, UH, HOLDING DOWN THE FLOOR WHILE HE'S OUT.

SO, UH, FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS, UH, APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

AND THEN IF WE COULD, UH, MOVE SHIFT THE AGENDA A LITTLE BIT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH MY, UH, EXCUSE ME, ON POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, UP TO THE FRONT OF THE AGENDA.

THAT WAY THEY CAN TAKE OFF ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH ANY OBJECTIONS TO THAT DEMO.

ALRIGHT.

HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A FORMAL MOTION.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED NO.

AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, CALL CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, LEVY.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'LL HAVE MY PROPER SCHOOL OWNERS IN FRONT OF ME.

ALRIGHT.

SO, UH, LOOKING OVER THE MINUTES FROM THE, LEAVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY TO HAVE IT HANDY.

OF COURSE YOU DO.

THEY HIDE OUT THERE DUSTY, THAT'S IT? THAT'S ON VERY FAST.

I'M IMPRESSED.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Consider approval of the minutes from the Mayor’s Committee for People with Disabilities June 12, 2020 Meeting.]

I SECOND.

OKAY.

ONE SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES AS, AS THEY ARE.

AYE.

AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY MOTION CARRIES.

WE ARE FOR THESE MINUTES, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER LEVY.

UH, IF I COULD INTERJECT, UH, COMMISSIONER GETS, DID YOU RECEIVE THE EMAIL? I JUST SENT YOU? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH,

[CALL TO ORDER]

LET ME DO ROLL CALL REAL QUICK.

UH, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.

UH, SOMETHING THE GUN PASS.

SO JOSE'S HERE.

UH, GENE BROOKS, IF WE LOST GENE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN? YOU DID.

OKAY.

UH, TARYN.

YEP.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, JOEY.

YES.

UH, DIANE, UH, ROBIN HERE, DANNY, EMILY AND DEBORAH HERE.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

ALRIGHT, NOW SINCE NO ONE HAD ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THIS PRESENTATION UP NEXT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OVER TO THE MAYA.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

LET ME START SHARING MY SCREEN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SORRY GUYS.

I'M I'M I'M UH, HAD A PROBLEM GETTING, I'M GLAD YOU MADE IT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN? OKAY.

CAN EVERYONE SEE IT? YES.

OKAY.

WONDERFUL.

WONDERFUL.

[3A. STAFF PRESENTATIONS: Presentation and Discussion: Maya Guevara, Community Engagement Specialist and Cristina Tangredi, Program Specialist with Office of Police Oversight, regarding Austin Police interaction with persons with disabilities.]

UM, I AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST WITH OPO AND HAVE CHRISTINA HERE WITH ME AS WELL.

IF YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF, CHRISTINA, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU THOUGH.

YOU'RE ON MUTE.

THANK YOU.

I AM CHRISTINA.

AND FOR PROGRAMS AT THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND I HAD A CHANCE TO BE IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH YOU ALL, SO I'M EXCITED.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY COOL THAT Y'ALL WERE ABLE TO

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UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR Y'ALL, WHICH IS BASICALLY SOME UPDATES FROM OUR OFFICE, OUR LATEST, UM, REPORT THAT'S COME OUT OF OUR OFFICE, WHICH IS OUR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT.

AND THEN SOME OTHER, UM, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY UPDATES SPECIFICALLY THAT HAVE COME OUT OF COUNCIL AND COME OUT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF DO A VERY HIGH LEVEL ON THIS BECAUSE IT MAKES SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME, UM, FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS TO HAVE, UM, KIND OF A GREATER DIALOGUE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU'LL ALSO HAVE PRIORITIES AROUND POLICING AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR AS WELL.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND KIND OF GIVE THESE UPDATES FROM OUR OFFICE.

AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO KEEP THAT BRIEF.

SO WE HAVE TIME FOR MORE GENERAL, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH Y'ALL.

UM, SO JUST TO GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SOME OF YOU HAVE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR OFFICE THAN OTHERS, AND I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS SINCE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH YOU ALL.

UM, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR OFFICE IS THE, THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO WE ARE COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE NOT PART OF APD AT ALL.

WE'RE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

WE REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING.

APD IS CONDUCT THEIR PRACTICES, THEIR POLICY, HOW THEY INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY, HOW THEY TREAT PEOPLE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND SO WE HAVE THREE MAIN BRANCHES OF OUR OFFICE, THREE MAIN FUNCTIONS OF OUR OFFICE, AND THE FIRST IS COMPLAINTS PROCESSING COMPLAINTS.

SO OUR OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE FOLKS TO CALL.

IF ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE, WE TAKE COMPLAINTS.

AND THANK YOU.

BUT IF ANYBODY HAS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH APD SPECIFICALLY, UM, FEELS LIKE THEY WERE THE VICTIM OF POLICE MISCONDUCT JUST HAD AN INTERACTION THAT DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT.

UM, OUR OFFICE TAKES THOSE COMPLAINTS AND WE START, UM, WE DO A REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT AND THEN FORWARD THE COMPLAINT TO BE INVESTIGATED.

AND THEN WE MONITOR THAT INVESTIGATION.

SO THAT WAS A HUGE PORTION OF WHAT OUR OFFICE DOES.

AND, UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED A HUGE INFLUX OF COMPLAINTS SINCE, UM, THE PROTESTS, UM, OVER THIS PAST MONTH.

UM, AND SO THAT HAS BEEN REALLY WHERE A LOT OF OUR ATTENTIONS HAVE GONE TOWARDS PROCESSING THOSE COMPLAINTS AND MAKING SURE THAT INVESTIGATIONS HAPPEN, THAT THEY'RE THOROUGH, THAT THEY'RE IMPARTIAL.

THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT CHRISTINA AND I DO, RIGHT? IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF, UM, REALLY HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO OUR LATE, OUR UPDATES ON OUR WORK, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS.

UM, AND THEN THE THIRD PIECE IS, IS RESEARCH AND POLICY.

AND SO WE ARE A VERY, VERY SMALL OFFICE WHERE AT ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE GROWING, UM, WE'RE GROWING EVERY DAY, UM, TO MEET, TO MEET THE DEMAND OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT, THAT DEMAND OF THE WORK OF THIS WORK OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.

UM, AND SO WE STILL ARE BUILDING OUT THAT RESEARCH AND POLICY ARM OF THE OFFICE.

UM, AND WE ARE WORKING ON HIRING FULL TIME STAFF TO FILL OUT THAT, THAT PIECE OF THE OFFICE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT A FEW PIECES OF RESEARCH, UM, EITHER, UH, IN HOUSE USING OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMPLAINT SPECIALISTS HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND AS WELL AS IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, IN DECEMBER OR IN JANUARY, AND WE PUT OUT OUR, OUR, OUR PROFILING REPORT, UM, WHICH WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION.

AND THEN THIS WAS OUR SECOND REPORT.

SO THE 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT, UM, THIS IS OUR LATEST REPORT FROM OUR OFFICE.

AND SO CHRISTINA'S GOING TO START US OFF TODAY, JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, LIKE I SAID, HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT THIS REPORT SAYS AND ITS SIGNIFICANCE, ITS SIGNIFICANCE.

SO HANG ON, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU, CHRISTINA.

THANK YOU, MAYA.

UM, AS WE JUST RELEASED OUR 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT BACK JUNE, AND THIS REPORT ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF ITS KIND THAT OUR OFFICE PUT OUT THERE AND IT TOOK AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, 2018 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DATA AND PROVIDED AN ANALYSIS INTO THIS DATA.

SO WHAT THIS REPORT DOES IS GIVE THE SUMMARIES OF ALL THE INCIDENTS, HIGHLIGHTS AREAS OF CONCERN OR AREAS FOR FACTORS KEPT REOCCURRING AND THEN PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN IMPROVE MOVING FORWARD.

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THANK YOU FOR DIVING DEEPER INTO THE DATA.

THERE WERE 12 OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IN 2018 INVOLVING 11 INDIVIDUALS AND 33 OFFICERS.

ONE INDIVIDUAL WAS INVOLVED IN TWO OIS INCIDENTS ON THE SAME DAY.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S 11 INDIVIDUALS IN 12 INCIDENTS.

UM, BUT LOOKING MORE INTO THESE INCIDENTS, SEVEN OF THE 12 ARE FATAL.

FIVE OF THE SEVEN FATAL INCIDENTS WERE DETERMINED.

FEED VITALITY IS CAUSED BY POLICE AND ALL THE FATALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED, BLACK AND LATIN ACTS INDIVIDUALS.

AND TWO OF THE SEVEN FATAL INCIDENTS WERE DETERMINED TO BE SUICIDES LOOKING CLOSER AT THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION.

WE ALSO FOUND SOME DISPARITIES THERE.

ALL THE OIS INCIDENTS OCCURRED IN CENTRAL EAST AND SOUTHEAST AUSTIN IN PARTICULAR, THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF AUSTIN, UM, IX WAS VERY OVERREPRESENTED DISTRICTS.

YOU HAD FIVE OIS INCIDENTS AND APD BRING SECTOR HAD FOUR OIS INCIDENTS.

SO IT WAS VERY DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED IN REGARDS TO AUSTIN.

AND THIS SLIDE JUST GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW ON THE DISTRICT BREAKDOWN AND THE SECTOR BREAKDOWN AND HOW DISTRICT TWO AND BRANG SECTOR, BOTH IN THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF AUSTIN, UM, HAVE A GREATER CONCENTRATION OF THE OIS INCIDENTS REPORT ALSO LOOKED AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE INVOLVED AND FOUND THAT LATIN X INDIVIDUALS WERE IMPACTED BY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.

SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, ALL FIVE INCIDENTS THAT WERE MENTALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED ONLY ETHNIC MINORITIES.

SO THREE INVOLVED, LATIN X MALES, ONE INVOLVED A LOT IN NEXT FEMALE AND ONE INVOLVED A BLACK MALE AND ALL THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED WERE IN THEIR TWENTIES.

THE REPORT ALSO LOOKS AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED AND FOUND THAT A MAJORITY WERE ALL WHITE MALE AND THREE OF THEM HAD BEEN INVOLVED IN AT LEAST ONE PRIOR OIS INCIDENT.

AND ONE OF THEM HADN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.

UM, AND SHE HAD TWO PRIOR OYS INCIDENTS.

UM, A MAJORITY OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED HAD SIX OR FEWER YEARS OF APD EXPERIENCE AND A MAJORITY ALSO HELD THE RANK OF OFFICER AND ONE HELD THE RANK OF SERGEANT.

ANOTHER KEY FINDING OF THIS REPORT WAS THAT IT POINTED OUT THAT MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENTS WERE VERY PREVALENT IN THE OIS INCIDENTS.

SO AT LEAST HALF OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS INVOLVED IN MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT AND TWO OF THE FIVE FATALITIES CAUSED BY POLICE INVOLVED A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT.

SO WHEN WE SAY MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT IN THIS TERM, WE'RE REFERRING TO SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD THE TANGIBLE INDIVIDUALS, MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY, WHETHER IT WAS BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER THE INCIDENT, OR IF A FAMILY MEMBER HAD LATER SAID THAT THE INDIVIDUAL INVOLVED, UM, HAD A HISTORY OF MENTAL HEALTH.

SO THE OTHER INCIDENTS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENTS DOES NOT MEAN THAT MENTAL HEALTH DID NOT PLAY A PART IN THE INCIDENT.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND OUT OF THE 12 INCIDENTS, UM, INVOLVES THE PRESENCE OF WEAPONS.

SO AN INDIVIDUAL HAD WAS ARMED, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WITH A FIREARM.

IT ALSO MEAN WITH A KNIFE OR A PICS ACTS OF ANY TYPE OF WEAPON.

AND, AND ONLY ONE OF THE 12 INCIDENTS THE OFFICER CHOOSE TO USE LESS LETHAL BEFORE USING THEIR FIREARM.

AND IN ALL OTHER INCIDENTS, THEY CHOSE TO USE THE FIREARM BEFORE LESS EQUAL.

SO USED IT FIRST.

AND SO OUR OFFICE, IT'S DEFINITELY A PRIORITY FOR US THAT EVERY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS FROM APD SHOULD BE ANALYZED AND REVIEWED THOROUGHLY.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES OF US PUTTING OUT THIS REPORT PREVIOUSLY, THE LAST OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORT THAT APD PUT OUT WAS LOOKING AT FROM 2013 TO 2018.

SO LOOKING AT THAT WHOLE FIVE YEAR PERIOD, AND FOR

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SO AT 2018, HAVING 12 INCIDENTS, THAT'S A HUGE NUMBER, UM, NORMAL, UM, OR I SHOULDN'T SAY NORMAL, BUT AVERAGE, UM, AVERAGE YEARS ARE MORE AROUND FIVE OR SIX INCIDENTS.

AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY TO LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE DATA SAY, BUT LOOK FOR THESE PATTERNS.

AND SO THE PATTERNS THAT WE FOUND WERE THAT THERE WAS A FAILURE TO USE DEESCALATION AND MANY OF THE INCIDENTS.

THIS WAS A HUGE PATTERN, JUST LACK OF USE OF DEESCALATION TACTICS.

AND THEN THAT LED TO FATALITIES ALSO A FAILURE TO USE, UH, THE, WHAT UNQUOTE LESS LETHAL FORCE OPTIONS AND ALL, BUT ONE INCIDENT.

SO, AND ONLY ONE INCIDENT WAS LESS LETHAL FORCE USE BEFORE LETHAL FORCE.

WHEN WE SAY LESS LIKE THE HORSE, WE ARE MEANING, UM, YOU KNOW, A TASER RUBBER BULLET, ANY KIND OF FORCE.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE FIREARM.

SO THAT WAS, THAT ONLY HAPPENED IN ONE INCIDENT.

AND, UM, THEN FIRST THE PATTERN OF THE DISPARATE CO CONCENTRATION OF INCIDENTS, A MAJORITY AFFECTING PEOPLE OF COLOR, AS WELL AS SPECIFICALLY IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN AND OTHER AREAS OF AUSTIN THAT ARE MINORITY MAJORITY AREAS.

AND SO FROM THESE PATTERNS, WE'VE PUT OUT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND SO THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION HAS TO DO WITH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT ACCESS.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT APD INCREASE THE ACCESS THAT THE OPPOSITE POLICE OVERSIGHT HAS TO THIS TYPE OF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING DATA.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE MONITOR ALL INVESTIGATIONS, OFFICER MISCONDUCT, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS, AS SOON AS THEY HAPPEN, SOMEONE FROM OUR OFFICE IS ALWAYS ON CALL.

SO THAT AS SOON AS AN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENT HAPPENS, OUR OFFICE IMMEDIATELY GOES TO THE SCENE.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR OFFICE IMMEDIATELY GOES TO THE SCENE AND OBSERVES EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON, AND THEN WE'RE HAVE A VERY HANDS ON, UM, ROLE IN OVERSEEING THOSE THINGS INVESTIGATIONS.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE PROVIDED UNPROMPTED ACCESS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, BALLISTICS REPORT, AUTOPSY REPORT, KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH OFFICERS WERE THERE, HOW MANY OFFICERS WERE THERE.

SO THAT'S OUR FIRST RECOMMENDATION JUST ABOUT THAT OUR OFFICE SHOULD HAVE MORE OR, UM, ACCESS TO THAT INFORMATION.

UM, SO WE CAN THOROUGHLY, THEY MONITOR THE INVESTIGATIONS.

THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS ABOUT REPORTING.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT APD PUBLISH ANNUAL OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING RECORDS.

UM, SO FOR US, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT THESE INCIDENTS ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND I LOOKED INTO, UM, AND THOSE PATTERNS ARE ANALYZED.

AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT APD SHOULD PUBLISH ANNUAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THEY SHOULD PUBLISH OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING REPORTS THAT SHOULD DEMONSTRATE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN OUR REPORT.

SO CHARACTER CHARACTERISTIC, DATA, DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, AND IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE STEPS TAKEN BY APD FOLLOWING THE INCIDENTS.

AND IT SHOULD INCLUDE WHAT PREVENTATIVE MEASURES APD HAS IMPLEMENTED OR WILL IMPLEMENT AS A RESULT OF THE FINDINGS OF THE REPORT.

SO UNDERSTANDING THAT APD SHOULD BE ADDRESSING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, WHEN OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS HAPPEN, THESE, THESE INCIDENTS REPRESENT THE MOST POWER THAT, THAT AN OFFICER HAS OVER, OVER A CIVILIAN, RIGHT? UM, AND SO THESE SHOULD BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY AND THE APD SHOULD CONSTANTLY BE REVIEWING WHAT'S GOING ON AND ADAPTING TO BECOME BETTER.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE REPORTING AND THAT APA SHOULD HAVE TO REPORT THAT, THAT THOSE FINDINGS TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AS WELL AS TO COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, THE THIRD IS ABOUT TRAINING.

AND SO WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CONTINUING EDUCATION TO HAPPEN, UM, WITHIN APD.

SO WE FOUND THAT OUT OF THE 12 INCIDENTS, 10 OF THE INCIDENTS ORIGINATED AS A CALL FOR SERVICE.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE A NINE ONE ONE CALL OR SOMETIME WHEN, UH, WHEN, UM, APD IS DISPATCHED TO AN INCIDENT AND THEY DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T DONE PRIOR WORK ON THAT CASE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT A SWAT TEAM GOING OUT, OR IT'S NOT PART OF SOME TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.

IT'S A CALL FOR SERVICE.

IT'S A NINE 11 CALL.

AND IN THOSE CASES, PITCH, REGULAR PATROL OFFICERS ARE DISPATCHED TO HANDLE THAT INCIDENT.

AND WE FOUND THAT PATROL OFFICERS DON'T OFTEN RECEIVE ONGOING TRAINING AFTER THE POLICE ACADEMY.

SO WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT PATROL OFFICERS RECEIVE CONSISTENT AND ONGOING TRAINING IN SPECIFICALLY, UH, DEESCALATION RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE, CRISIS INTERVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH SPECIFIC RESPONSE.

AND THEN SPECIFICALLY

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UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS BASICALLY TO ENSURE THAT, UM, APDS MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE TRAINING THEIR POLICIES AND THEIR PROCEDURES ALIGN WITH NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND ADDRESS THE SHORTCOMINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN THE DEPARTMENT.

SO I KNOW Y'ALL ARE AWARE, AND I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED THAT YOUR LAST MEETING, UM, THE 2018 CITY AUDITOR REPORT, THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE PUT OUT, UM, ANALYZING, UM, APDS, UM, HOW APD RESPONDS TO CRISIS INTERVENTION, MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, AS WELL AS THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CALLS.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF FINDINGS IN THAT REPORT.

ONE OF THEM BEING THAT, LOOKING AT ALL THE COMPARISONS THAT HE IS, UM, APD HAS THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA RATE OF FATAL POLICE SHOOTINGS, UH, INVOLVING SOMEONE EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT REPORT.

AND SO WE DIRECTLY CITE THAT REPORT SAYING THAT THESE ARE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT APA SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING SPECIFICALLY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE AND LASTLY PERSONNEL SAFETY AND WELLNESS.

SO OUR OFFICE UNDERSTANDING THAT OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS ARE VERY TRAUMATIC FOR, UM, ANYBODY INVOLVED, THE PERSON, UM, INVOLVED INDIVIDUAL, THE COMMUNITY, UM, ANY WITNESSES AND THE OFFICER AS WELL, AND THAT TRAUMA CAN BECOME IMPACTED AND CAN IMPACT.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

IT CAN, IT BECOME, CAN BECOME COMPOUNDED AND IT CAN IMPACT THE WAY THAT THE OFFICER IN BALLS TO FUTURE INCIDENT INCIDENTS.

AND SO OUR LAST RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENSURE THAT APDS POLICIES ALIGN WITH BEST PRACTICE FOR SAFETY AND WELLNESS FOR THEIR OWN OFFICERS AS WELL, AND MENTAL HEALTH, UM, RESOURCES FOR THEIR OWN OFFICES.

SO THAT'S VERY HIGH LEVEL, THE, UM, THE LYS REPORT AND, UM, WELL, CERTAINLY HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY UPDATES.

UM, AND I WON'T GET TOO, TOO IN THE WEEDS ON THIS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER IT.

UM, AND SO JUNE, JULY, I HAVE, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE WAS A, A BIG DAY FOR A POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND POLICE REFORM, UH, SPECIFICALLY RESOLUTIONS COMING FROM CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO OUTLINE WHAT THOSE RESOLUTIONS ARE AND JUST HAVE THIS FOR ANYBODY WHO, TO WHOM THESE, UM, THIS BREAKDOWN MAY BE USEFUL, UH, GOING FORWARD TO REFER TO, UH, WE HAVE RESOLUTION 50, WHICH ADOPTS A ZERO DISPARITY IN POLICING GOALS OR LOSS IN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THESE GOALS CAME OUT OF OUR, OUR RACIAL PROFILING REPORT THAT WE PUT OUT SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, RESOLUTION 95 PROHIBITS AND OR RESTRICTS THE USE OF VARIOUS, UH, USE OF FORCE, VARIOUS WEAPONS, UH, VARIOUS PRACTICES AT APD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, TEAR GAS, UM, PURPOSE, TEAR GAS, YOU KNOW, IN A CHOKE HOLD AND THEN RESTRICTS, UM, CERTAIN USES OF DEADLY FORCE, TASERS, RUBBER BULLETS, UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UH, IT ALSO, THIS RESOLUTION ALSO OF NOTE, UM, REQUIRES THAT USE OF FORCE TRAINING INVOLVE DEESCALATION.

SO THAT'S ALSO HUGE TO OUR RECOMMENDATION CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR OFFICE FEELS VERY STRONGLY ABOUT DEESCALATION, AND THEN I KNOW THAT THEIR COMMISSION DOES AS WELL.

UM, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THAT RESOLUTION AND THEN RESOLUTION 96 IS THE BUDGET RESOLUTION.

SO BE COUNCIL DIRECTOR, THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING FORWARD A BUDGET THAT BASICALLY EXPLORERS, REALLOCATING, SOME POSITIONS AND ROLES FROM APD AND TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR INTO OUTSIDE ENTITIES.

AND IT ALSO LOOKS AT FUNDING AND STAFFING, INCREASING FUNDING AND STAFFING FOR MENTAL HEALTH FIRST RESPONSE SPECIFICALLY.

AND SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME THINGS OF NOTE TO LOOK OUT FOR AS WE INTEREST BUDGET CYCLE, UM, THE CITY MANAGERS PRESENT FIRST, HE WILL PRESENT HIS FIRST DRAFT OF A BUDGET TO CITY COUNCIL ON MONDAY.

AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT WHERE THIS DIRECTION HAS GONE AND HOW IT WILL ACTUALLY LOOK IN THE BUDGET.

AND THAT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, MORE COMMUNITY PRESSURE OR FOR EXPERTISE, UM, THAT THE COMMISSIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVE THEY ALL HAVE ON, UM, ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE GOING.

SO I DID JUST WANT TO GO OVER THAT.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, THE CITY MANAGER HAS PUT OUT A MEMO ON RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO THAT CREATES, IT CREATES ADVISORY WORKING GROUPS THAT ARE LOOKING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS A REIMAGINED PUBLIC SAFETY SYSTEM AND HOW DO WE GET THERE FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR AUSTIN.

AND SO THAT WILL BE ONGOING.

IT'S A VERY, VERY BIG PROJECT.

UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT'S COMING, THE COMMISSIONS WILL BE ENGAGED IN THAT PROCESS.

CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMISSIONS AND ENSURING THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND EVERYTHING ARE, UM,

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AND THERE'LL BE AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS.

AND THERE'LL BE PUBLIC DASHBOARDS TO TRACK THE PROGRESS.

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS, SINCE IT IS SUCH A HUGE INITIATIVE.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, MANY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE PUT OUT RESOLUTIONS.

I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU ALL PUT OUT A RESOLUTION, UM, AT YOUR LAST MEETING, UM, REGARDING, UM, POLICE TREATMENT OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

AND, UM, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION FROM THE RESOLUTION, FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH, UM, OUR OFFICE AND SAYING THAT WHEN OUR OFFICE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION THAT AN INCIDENT NEEDS TO BE, UM, INVESTIGATED THAT ISN'T AUTOMATICALLY INVESTIGATED.

AND SO THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

UH, AND MANY OF THE OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE AND DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS HAVE PUT FORTH RESOLUTIONS.

AND SO I JUST REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT, THE FACT THAT THE COMMISSIONS EXISTS AS A PLACE FOR THAT COMMUNITY PRESSURE TO BE DIRECTLY HURT BY THE CITY.

AND SO JUST KNOWING THAT THE CITY IS, HAS A VERY KEEN EYE ON WHAT THE COMMISSIONS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION.

SO ALL OF THAT IS, UM, I FEEL IT WAS A LOT, RIGHT.

SO WE JUST SAID A LOT WAS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, HOW THAT WILL IMPACT OUR OFFICE AS WELL AS OUR MOST RECENT REPORT.

AND SO I WANT TO STOP THERE AND PAUSE AND OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

AND THEN, UM, ONCE WE TALK ABOUT QUESTIONS, WE CAN OPEN IT UP LARGER.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE US HERE, BUT LET'S OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH Y'ALL.

HI, THIS IS CONDITIONER ORLOWSKI OKAY.

YES.

UM, I HAD TALKED WITH A CITIZEN FROM THE ADVISORY REVIEW PANEL AND, UM, SHE WOULD LIKE, SHE WOULD LIKE, UH, SHE WOULD LIKE, UH, YOUR, UM, OFFICE TO FOCUS ON, UH, MORE THAN MENTAL HEALTH, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE DISABILITIES, JUST MENTAL HEALTH WHO ARE BEING UNDERSERVED, UM, LIKE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING, UM, AN OFFICER WHO COMES TO THE SCENE ISN'T NECESSARILY FLUENT IN ASL AND THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THEY CAN'T PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE.

THAT'S A SHORTCOMING.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERSON IS SAYING AND VICE VERSA.

YES, DEFINITELY.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR DEAF COMMUNITY.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT THE SPECIFIC RESEARCH DOESN'T SPEAK TO.

UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK.

UM, WE'LL TO DEFINITELY TAKE THAT BACK, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, AS I SAID, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON BUILDING OUT THE RESEARCH AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT RESEARCH RIGHT NOW, WE'RE USING A LOT OF INTERNS.

AND SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T TURNED IT ON SPECIFICALLY MENTAL HEALTH, UM, AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, FURTHER, UM, DOING RESEARCH ON APD RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.

BUT WE DEFINITELY DO REALIZE THAT'S ONLY ONE, ONE PART OF THE STUDY.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALSO FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING WITH US OTHER CITIES, UM, THAT YOU ALL HAVE.

UM, AND, AND SO WE CAN SET UP THAT CONVERSATION ENSURE THAT, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

UM, SHE ALSO WANTED TO SEE OTHER TYPES OF DECISIONS IN THE RESEARCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER BROOKS.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU GUYS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.

ALL RIGHT.

MY FIRST QUESTION DEALS WITH THE HIRING OFFICERS.

UM, WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR, UM, PSYCHOLOGICAL, UM, ASSESSMENTS FOR INCOMING OFFICERS IS A CITY REQUIRED TO PERFORM PSYCHOLOGICALS ON PROSPECTIVE OFFICERS OR CANDIDATES? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

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UM, THAT FALLS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW, BUT I, I DO KNOW THAT THEY DO THESE, THOSE KINDS OF ASSESSMENTS, BUT I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT THOSE ENTAIL.

UM, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A QUESTION FOR APD, BUT WE CAN HELP WITH, UM, FINDING THE ANSWER TO THAT AND GETTING BACK TO YOU OR CONNECTING YOU WITH THE FOLKS AT MPD OVER HIRING THAT WILL HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT.

SO I MADE A NOTE OF IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BROOKS IN THE CITY.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

I'M GOING TO PASS ON THE SECOND ONE FOR RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

OKAY.

TARA HAS A QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR RESPONSE DURING THE YEAR OF 2018? SO YOU EXPLAINED THAT AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 2018.

SO I'M CURIOUS, HAVE YOU SHARED WITH APD ABOUT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM 2018 TO NOW? CAUSE THAT'S FROM TWO YEARS AGO, SO HAVE THEY SEEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR HAVE THEY NOT MADE PROGRESS WITH THAT? YES.

GREAT QUESTION.

SO THE REASON THAT WE STARTED WITH 28, SO THIS 2018 REPORT AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY CAME OUT LAST MONTH AND WE CHOSE TO FOCUS ON 2018 FIRST BECAUSE THAT YEAR HAD SO MANY OIS OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING INCIDENTS.

SO WE REALLY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT ARE THE PATTERNS HERE? AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT ANALYSIS MOVING FORWARD FOR EACH YEAR.

SO 2019 WILL BE NEXT.

UM, SO, SO THE REASON IT'S 2018 IS BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT APD IS DATA FROM 2018, BUT THAT REPORT CAME OUT THIS YEAR AND ACTUALLY IT WAS LAST MONTH.

UM, SO WE DID A LIVE TO, WE SENT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

SO THE, UM, APD HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE HAS NOT RESPONDED YET TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT IT DID JUST COME OUT LAST MONTH.

SO, UM, THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THAT, IF THAT CLARIFIES THAT MACHINE.

SO DO YOU HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THEM, FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM? UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A DEADLINE.

UM, WE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST THE REPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDED, I GUESS AN UPDATE, UM, WITHIN A FEW WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS THEY FEEL LIKE WOULD FIT IN, OR THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION ON, BUT THAT'S A PLACE WHERE, UM, COMMUNITY PRESSURE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.

UM, BECAUSE WE, WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT A DEADLINE ON IT.

UM, BUT IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO EXPECT MOVEMENT ON THEM.

WE DO EXPECT RECOGNITION OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT RESONATE WITH YOU ALL OR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S ALSO A PLACE WHERE, UM, THE COMMUNITY CAN ALSO HELP US WITH THAT ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE FIRST, UM, AND ASKING ANY PD TO DO THAT AS WELL? WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STRICT DEADLINE ON RESPONDING THOUGH.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I HAVE MY HAND RAISED.

YEAH, MINE WAS TOO.

I, YOU CAN GO HERE.

IT'S LIKE, I DON'T CARE.

YOU KNOW, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE OPPOSITE POLICE OVERSIGHT SHARING OR WHAT THE CHANGES ARE BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF THE POLICE OVERSIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, FROM WHEN Y'ALL WERE THE OFFICE OF THE POLICE MONITOR, BECAUSE SO FAR, LIKE I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE ACCESS TO MORE, UH, MORE OF THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN INVESTIGATE THAT, UH, MORE, BUT I THINK THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

UM, AND SO I WAS HOPING THAT Y'ALL COULD SHARE THAT.

AND I ALSO HAVE ONE OTHER LITTLE QUESTION, SO, OKAY.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

UM, SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS.

THERE'S SEVERAL LAYERS.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE ABLE TO PUBLISH MUCH MORE INFORMATION AND MAKE MUCH MORE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE COUPLER.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE SEND

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AND WHEN DISCIPLINE COMES BACK, WHEN OFFICERS ARE DISCIPLINED TO THE LEVEL OF A SUSPENSION OF A DAY OR MORE, WE ARE ABLE TO PUBLISH THAT INFORMATION.

AND WE'RE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE, THIS OFFICER WAS RECEIVED THIS LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE FOR THIS OFFENSE.

AND SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION LIVES ON OUR WEBSITE.

YOU CAN SEE ALL OF OUR, UM, OUR DISCIPLINE AND OUR LIKE DISCIPLINE COMPLAINT DOCUMENTATION ON OUR WEBSITE.

SO THAT'S ONE BIG THING.

WE'RE JUST ABLE TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND OTHER IS THE WAY WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE COMPLAINTS.

SO PREVIOUSLY WITH OFFICE OF POLICE MONITOR, IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO FILE A COMPLAINT, THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A VERY KIND OF COMPLICATED PROCESS.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE THEIR COMPLAINT NOTARIZE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THERE WERE A LOT OF BARRIERS.

NOW WE TAKE COMPLAINTS, UM, OVER THE PHONE BY EMAIL, UM, ON IN PERSON STILL, UM, NOT DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT NORMALLY IN PERSON IN OUR OFFICE.

UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ONLINE COMPLAINT FORM AND PEOPLE CAN REMAIN ANONYMOUS WHEN CONTACTING US.

SO THAT'S A HUGE THING.

SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE SHARING THEIR NAME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY COME FORWARD, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT THEY WANT TO LET US KNOW THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED AND THEY WANT IT TO BE LOOKED INTO ANONYMOUSLY.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER HUGE THING THAT IS NEW, THAT THE OFFICE OF POLICE MONITOR COULDN'T DO, BUT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO, WE CAN TAKE THESE COMPLAINTS OVER ONLINE AND PEOPLE CAN BE ANONYMOUS.

UM, SO IT'S JUST MUCH EASIER TO FILE A COMPLAINT TO CONTACT OUR OFFICE.

AND WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY, POWER, UM, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

THOSE ARE TWO, TWO OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER OR LASKY.

I DO FEEL THAT YOUR DATA COLLECTION PROCESS SHOULD INCLUDE NOT JUST A MENTAL HEALTH, BUT I DO FEEL IT SHOULD INCLUDE DISABILITY AND, UM, TYPE DISABILITY.

YEAH, I FEEL YOU SHOULD.

I FEEL YOU SHOULD BREAK THAT OUT FOR A COMPLETE, A STATISTICAL PORTRAIT, UH, THAT WILL HELP, UM, EXPLAIN TO, UH, THE CITY, WHAT IS GOING ON.

THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

AND I, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.

I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER GET'S GETTING THAT, ADDED THAT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LAST MEETING, AS I WAS WATCHING ABOUT, UM, PD TO GATHER THAT DATA BECAUSE CURRENTLY, UM, FOR TRANSPARENCY TO Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO OUR ANALYSIS, WE ARE USING APDS DATA.

SO OUR ANALYSIS IS REALLY ONLY AS GOOD AS THE DATA THAT WE ARE PROVIDED, AND WE DO OUR BEST JOB WITH THE DATA THAT WE'RE PROVIDED, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT TO US AND DEFINITELY TO MANY FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, IN A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT APDS DATA IS JUST MORE BROKEN DOWN, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, IT ALLOWS IT TO BE MORE ACCURATE AND FOR US TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SO WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT INITIATIVES TOWARDS, UM, DESEGREGATING THAT DATA.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR APD.

UM, SO APD WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT FOR US TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT BECAUSE WE USE THEIR DATA TO DO THE, WE DON'T COLLECT IT OURSELVES, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER TRAIL, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

YES.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

UM, BUT I GUESS I WANT TO US, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING.

SO FORGIVE ME AND INDULGE ME FOR A MOMENT.

AS I SAY, THAT YOU ARE ONE OF MANY CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO HAS COME TO THE COMMISSION FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WITHOUT REALLY BRINGING UP OR HIGHLIGHTING ISSUES RELATED TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WITHOUT PULLING OUT THAT ISSUE AND DISCUSSING IT WHEN THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE.

SO IT AGAIN, SEEMS THAT EQUITY DOESN'T INCLUDE PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

UM, I, SO YOU TALKED ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, IS PICKING UP ON THESE THINGS AND MAKING SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS, WHERE, WHERE THAT'S APPARENT AND WHERE YOU COULD ADDRESS IT, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK FOR ME, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN RESPONSE TO ME TO SAY, OKAY, THIS IS HOW OUR OFFICE LOOKS AT DISABILITY ISSUES.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO TO ADVOCATE FOR DISABILITY ISSUES.

THESE ARE THE ISSUES WE HAVE SEEN AN INVESTIGATING OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.

YOU'VE EXCLUSIVELY TALKED FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD

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SO I GUESS, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW TO SORT OF STRUCTURALLY GET AT THAT IS, AND I'M LOOKING ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TO TRY TO FIND THE MISSION STATEMENT.

I KNOW YOU, I SEE WHAT YOU DO, YOU INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS, BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE CITY WEBSITE THAT TELLS ME WHAT YOUR PURPOSE IS.

SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE VALUING? WHAT ARE THE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUSHER OR ALLOWS SKI RAISES THAT IF YOU WOULD SAY SOMETHING IN YOUR STATISTICS AND YOUR REPORTING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY, THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR US TO LOOK AT THOSE SHOES AND PERHAPS HAVE A SHOW THAT'S PART OF YOUR GOAL IS TO LOOK AT IMPACTS ON MAYBE ETHNIC GROUPS OR SOME RANGE OF FOLKS.

UM, BUT SO THAT'S, I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A BIG PICTURE THING, BUT I GUESS IF WE COULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE A STATED PURPOSE AND IF MAYBE THERE'S SOME WAY FOR US TO BEND THAT STATED PURPOSE, IF IT TALKS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH, BUT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

AND I'LL JUST FINALLY ADD THAT.

AND I DON'T END UP COMMISSIONER GET SIX, SHAKING HER HEAD.

I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, A COP WITH DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE PAST AND THEY SENT THE MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE TO TALK TO US.

AND HE HAD DISABILITY LODGE ON HER MENTAL HEALTH.

AND WE EXPRESSED AS A COMMITTEE CONCERNS FOR THAT, THAT IS NOT A SUBSET HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH IS INVOLVED IN DISABILITY AND THEIR STANDALONE MENTAL HEALTH THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DISABILITY.

UM, SO THEY'RE RELATED, THEY'RE INTERACTING, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.

AND DISABILITY DOES NOT FALL WITHIN THAT.

I HAVE A KID THAT HAD ELECTRICAL DISABILITIES.

HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

UM, SO ANYWAY, SO PURPOSE HOW WE BETTER PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN RELATION TO POLICE ARE ADDRESSED FROM MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, WHICH I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT WITH PREVIOUS POLICE PEOPLE, MY OWN SON HAD INVOLVEMENT WITH THE POLICE RESPONDING TO OUR HOME DISABILITY.

SO FOR INSTANCE, HE MIGHT ADMIT BECAUSE HE HAS TAKES OFF LIKE MANY CHILDREN WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, NOT ANYMORE, THANKFULLY, BUT HE USED TO.

AND SO ONE TIME THE POLICE WERE RESPONDING BECAUSE GRANDMA COULDN'T FIND HIM.

AND THEY, UH, THAT HE WENT TO THE, THE, THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET, A GROUP OF ARMED POLICE OFFICERS WERE RESPONDING.

LUCKILY IT WAS BROAD DAYLIGHT.

HE WAS IN THE BACKYARD HANGING OUT IN THE NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD.

UM, NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHY THAT WOULDN'T BE A THING YOU JUST DO.

UM, AND THEY YELLED FOR HIM TO STOP AND HE JUST WAS RUNNING, HE KEPT RUNNING, HE DIDN'T DO ANY STOPPING.

HE DID NOT RESPOND TO POLICE.

AND SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOMEONE WITH AUTISM THAT WAS SHOT WHEN HE WAS TOLD TO STOP.

AND DIDN'T, I KNOW THAT'S HAPPENED IN CITY, IN AUSTIN AND IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN FEAR THAT THE POLICE WILL RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT AT OUR HOME AND BE INTERACTING WITH HIM AND HE WON'T RESPOND APPROPRIATELY AND COULD DIE.

SO, UM, TO ME, LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ARE THE OFFICER INVOLVED COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE LACK OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, IN ADDITION TO COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES, LIKE A PERSON WHO'S DEAF THAT COMMISSIONER WILL ASK YOU RAISE A PERSON WHO IS BLIND, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTELLECTUALLY DISABILITY DISABLED, OR, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVE SLOW RESPONSE TIME, THAT KIND OF THING.

LONG-WINDED THANK YOU.

SO SORRY.

I WANT TO THINK SHE'S JUST SHARING THE PERSPECTIVE AND, UM, I WILL DEFINITELY TAKE IT BACK.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, OUR DIRECTOR CERTAINLY WELCOMED LIKE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

AND SO I WILL TAKE THIS BACK.

I CAN COMMIT TO TAKING IT BACK AND TO CHECKING IN BOTH ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DATA WE DO HAVE THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU REGARDING THE COMPLAINTS.

UM, SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AND I WILL CHECK, UM, WELL, WE CAN PULL OUT SO THAT TO GIVE YOU ALL A BETTER PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, ARE WE RECEIVING THOSE KINDS OF COMPLAINTS? WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE KINDS OF COMPLAINTS, UM, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING PEOPLE DISABILITIES

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I MEAN, IF YOU ALL THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, TO HAVE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION, UM, WITH OUR, OUR LEADERSHIP ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT, UM, MORE INTO THE FABRIC OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

CAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU THAT CURRENTLY WE'VE MOSTLY FOCUSED ON MENTAL HEALTH.

UM, THAT HAS MOSTLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST YEAR, WELL, THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE STARTED ON, UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT THE NEED IS MUCH GREATER.

AND SO IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR PRIORITIES THAT WE CAN START WITH, YOU ALL CERTAINLY KNOW MORE THAN WE DO AND STILL WE WOULD WANT TO LISTEN TO Y'ALLS EXPERTISE.

AND SO FOR ME, IT'S A CONTINUING CONVERSATION.

UM, AND I HOPE THAT THAT, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE BEST WAY IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY COME BACK WITH UPDATES AND I CAN COMMUNICATE WITH DAVID AFTER I'VE TALKED WITH OUR OFFICE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN WRITING.

UM, BUT THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE, UM, MEETINGS.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S US COMING TO Y'ALLS COMMISSION AGAIN, OR EVEN SETTING UP SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION.

UH, WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE LOGISTICS OF IT LATER ON, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO US TO UNDERSTAND, UM, BOTH THE LIVED EXPERIENCE AND THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU'LL HAVE AS WELL, WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE.

SO THANKS IS COMMISSIONER OR, UM, MY, THE CITIZEN, THE CITIZEN WHO HAD CONTACTED ME, WANTED YOUR OFFICE AND TO HAVE A FORUM ON DISABILITY AND POLICING, NOT JUST MENTAL HEALTH, BUT UH, DISABILITY, I AND POLICING.

SHE ALSO WANTED THE MAYOR'S COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO BE INVOLVED TOO.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

UM, I HAD ALREADY EMAILED, UH, UH, DAVID AND I CC LEE ABOUT IT.

I THINK IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

UM, BUT I, SHE PROACTIVELY ASKED ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND SHE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL, WAS NOT RESOLVED.

UM, START THE BALL ROLLING ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

UH, CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF DISABILITIES IN THE AUSTIN AREA AND THEY COULD COME AND TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

ALRIGHT, MR. LASKY, UH, IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, MR. LEVY.

UH, SO I HAVE QUESTION, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. BROOKS.

YES.

THIS IS COMMISSIONER BROOKS, UM, TYPE OF DATA CAPTURES MY POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY MAKE CONTACT WITH ANY CITIZEN TO HAVE DATA'S CAPTURED THAT'S FIRST PART OF MY FIRST.

UM, I CAN DEFINITELY GET THAT FOR YOU.

I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE IT'S WELL ACTUALLY I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TOO MUCH ON IT.

I WILL, I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU FOR SURE.

ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT DATA ARE THEY REQUIRED TO KEEP? I KNOW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DOCUMENT, UH, RACE AND ETHNICITY, GENDER.

UM, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THERE'S MUCH MORE BEYOND THAT, BUT I'LL GET YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER, BUT NOTHING IN TERMS OF DISABILITY AS YOU, THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT WE KNOW OF YET, BUT I KNOW OF HIM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

AND THEN I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST IS, UH, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU HAVE THE OPPOSITE SHOOTING, YOU HAVE A COMPARISON AVAILABLE FOR HOW THAT COMPARES TO ARTS.

UM, CAUSE I KNOW WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CITIES, THAT'S A LOT OF ECONOMICS LOOKING AT THE OTHERS, THOSE DISPARITIES, IF THERE'S ANY ETHNIC OR RACIAL DISPARITIES OR PARODIES.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS, IS IT WHAT'S READING OR THIS OFFICER'S RECEIVE, THEY HAVE.

UM, AND THEN I GUESS

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UM, SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THE FIRST QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, COMPARING THE, THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE OAS INCIDENTS COMPARED TO OVERALL THE GENERAL MAKEUP AT APD, CORRECT TO SEE THE DESPAIR APD AND THE CITY AND THE, UM, WE DIDN'T DO THAT FOR THIS REPORT.

UM, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA SO I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT AS WELL.

UM, SORRY, I'M JUST WRITING THAT DOWN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT.

UM, AND THEN ABOUT ONGOING TRAINING.

UM, AGAIN, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW BECAUSE IT'S, I WOULD CERTAINLY RECOMMEND IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AROUND APD TRAINING TO INVITE SOMEONE FROM AN APD WHO WILL HAVE BETTER ANSWERS AND WE'LL HAVE DECISION-MAKING OVER IT, BUT I CAN, I CAN TRY TO FIND THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.

UM, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR WE'VE WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT TURNING BOMBS.

I'M THINKING MORE IN TERMS OF MAKING IT A FUTURE RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM YOUR OFFICE AND THOSE OFFICERS YOU HAVE PULLED YOUR GUN AND SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EVENT.