Oct 19, 2020 Music Special Meeting

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YOU CAN JOIN US IN, IN MOTION.

SO THAT'S ME GET MY CHEAT SHEET HERE.

[Call to Order]

THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN COMMISSION.

WE ARE MEETING REMOTELY.

UM, TODAY IS OCTOBER 19TH AND WE WILL START OUT WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP AND THAT IS MOBILY.

MOBILEY.

ARE YOU THERE? I GUESS MOBILEY IS NOT THERE.

SO WITH THAT, WE CAN GO

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AND WHEN LIKE TO SECONDARY, I GOT A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROBINSON, ALL IN FAVOR, ALL OPPOSED CARRIES.

AND SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITH THAT.

WE CAN GO ON TO OLD BUSINESS.

WE HAVE

[2a. Discussion and Possible Action following update on $12 Million Creative Space Bond following presentations by Christine Maguire, Redevelopment Division Manager, Economic Development Department, and Shawn Willett, Deputy Procurement Officer, Financial Services]

SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME CHRISTINE AND SEAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR.

I APPRECIATE THIS.

CHRISTINE MCGUIRE REDEVELOPMENT DIVISION MANAGER WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

I ALSO REALLY, REALLY HOPE TO HAVE ON THIS CALL.

SHAD ROLAND IS NOT ABLE TO JOIN, BUT MATT TO RAY, HE SHOULD HAVE EITHER CALLED IN OR HE SHOULD BE ON THE LINE.

THERE YOU ARE.

MATTHEW.

IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I ALSO HAVE TWO SLIDES IF, UH, IS KIM CARSON.

UH, THANK YOU.

IF YOU COULD JUST GO, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, KIM, IF YOU COULD GO TO, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU CONDITIONED MEMBERS.

I WANTED TO LET YOU JUST ON A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND PROCESS.

AND AS YOU RECALL, THERE WAS, I DID A LONGER PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS.

WE RECEIVED OVER 20, UH, RESPONSES TO THE REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION AND THE INFORMATION THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM, UH, THOSE WHO RESPONDED.

AND THEY WERE VERY DETAILED, VERY THOUGHTFUL RESPONSES HAS HELPED INFORM THE UPCOMING NEXT STEPS OF THE PROCESS.

AND JUST TO REMIND YOU ALL WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE DOING, I WOULD SAY A THREE STEP PROCESS, BUT REALLY A TWO STEP THAT THAT HELPS DELIVER ON THE CREATIVE SPACE BONDS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT $12 MILLION IS NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT, UM, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT I HOPE REALLY GETS THE BEST OUTCOME OF WEDDING, AN OPERATOR WHO IS NOT THE CITY, THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC COMMISSION OVERWHELMINGLY SAID, WE DON'T WANT THE CITY OPERATING THIS FACILITY.

WE WANT A FACILITY OPERATOR OR OPERATORS WHO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE INDUSTRY TO OPERATE THE SPACE OR SPACE SAYS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE ARE WITH THE RFI PROCESS WAS REALLY TO HELP TARGET AND NARROW DOWN BOTH AND INFORM BOTH THE ACQUISITION PART OF THE REAL ESTATE AND THE OPERATORS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY, UM, MANAGE, UM, THE REAL ESTATE SPACES.

SO WE'RE GOING AFTER OPERATORS AS WELL AS POTENTIAL SPACES, AND THEY WILL WET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS.

SO, UH, WE'RE ABOUT READY TO ISSUE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS.

OUR REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS THAT WILL LET WHICH FOR A FACILITY OPERATOR TEAM AND THAT TEAM, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DO IS PRESENT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS

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WHAT THE RFI ALSO DID IS REALLY HELPING FOR EARLY LEADS.

AND WE HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF THAT TO OUR BROKER, JOHN LANG LASALLE, WHO ARE, WHO IS BEGINNING TO SEARCH OUT THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES OF REAL ESTATE, THE QUALITY YEAH, OPERATORS THAT THROUGH A VETTING PROCESS AND THROUGH AN EVALUATION PROCESS, THERE'LL BE A HANDFUL THAT WILL BE INVITED TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS.

AND THOSE PROPOSALS WILL BE BASED ON ACTUAL SPACES THAT OUR BROKER COMMUNITY AND BEEN ABLE TO SECURE AND TO HAVE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY WARM LEADS, NOT JUST WARM LEADS FOR REALLY DOABLE LEADS SO THAT THE QUALIFIED WHO GET TO REVIEW THESE HAND SELECTED FACILITIES, AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT PROPOSALS, HAVING HAD REVIEWED AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE SPACES.

AND SO THE PROPOSALS WILL BE BASED ON OUR ACTUAL SPACES AND, UM, TO REALLY HELP, UH, AN INFORMED PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THERE IS THESE BONDS ARE NOT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND BACK IN 2019, I, I DID A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION AND I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN, THAT THESE BONDS ARE, WERE ISSUED IN PROPOSITION B IN 2018, WHICH IS CULTURAL FACILITIES, LIBRARIES, AND MUSEUMS. AND SO WE HAVE THIS RANGE OF MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS PRIVATE BENEFIT, PRIVATE OWNERSHIP FOR PROFIT LIMITED ACCESS ON ONE SIDE, WHICH IS MORE ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPING, BUT THE FARTHER WE CAN GET FOR A CLEAR PUBLIC PURPOSE, PUBLIC OWNERSHIP THAT IT'S RUN BY A NONPROFIT THAT IT IS FOR REALLY LONGTERM AFFORDABLE SPACE, WHOSE MISSION IS THE MISSION OF AFFORDABLE CREATIVE SPACE.

WE CAN GET ATTORNEY GENERAL AND BOND COUNCIL APPROVAL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT FRAMEWORK AGAIN, TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NARROW UNIVERSE OF WHAT THE $12 MILLION CAN GO FOR.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER TOOLS AND OTHER RESOURCES THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO BEAR TO REALLY HAVE A MORE ROBUST IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

BUT THE $12 MILLION REALLY HAS A VERY USEFUL NICHE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE BE ALL.

AND THE END ALL LAST SLIDE, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE IS THESE TWO SLIDES, BUT I DID WANT TO ALSO BRING TO THE COMMISSIONER'S ATTENTION AND TURN IT OVER TO OUR PURCHASING PARTNER.

OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS, IS HELPING WORKING WITH US HAND IN GLOVE.

THERE ARE ORDINANCES THAT WILL ATTACH AS SOON AS THE CITY ISSUES.

THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WOULD START TO SEE OFFICIAL PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND ORDINANCES ATTACHED TO THAT REALLY NARROW, UM, COMMUNICATION IN ORDER TO PREVENT LOBBYING OR UNDUE INFLUENCE.

UM, AND YOU ALL SERVE AS CITY OFFICIALS.

SO Y'ALL ARE GOVERNED BY THIS ORDINANCE.

SO I WANTED TO TURN THIS OVER TO MATTHEW AND OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ORDINANCES THAT GOVERN WHAT WILL BE THIS UPCOMING SOLICITATION.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRISTINE, A LITTLE COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS MATTHEW DURRY.

I'M A PURCHASING MANAGER WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S PURCHASING OFFICE.

I'M DOING IT FOR SEAN, WE'LL IT TONIGHT.

AND AS CHRISTINE SAID, I REALLY JUST WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND GO OVER THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ANTI LOBBYING ORDINANCE OR ALO IS IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO AND JUST KIND OF HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS AND SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT I THINK, UH, YOU NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF REGARDING CONTACT BEING CITY EFFICIENT.

UM, SO REAL QUICK, BUT THE GENERAL PURPOSE OF THE ALO IS TO PROVIDE THE MOST FAIR, EQUITABLE, COMPETITIVE PROCESS POSSIBLE FOR SELECTION AMONG POTENTIAL VENDORS.

SO THE CITY CAN ACQUIRE A BEST AND MOST COMPETITIVE GOODS AND SERVICES.

AND TO FURTHER OUR COMPLIANCE WITH STATE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS,

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THE FIRST IS A RESPONDENT AND THAT'S REALLY THE ENTITY WHO HAS TIMELY SUBMITTED A REQUEST OR TIMELY SUBMITTED A RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S REQUEST FOR SOLICITATION.

AND EVEN IF THAT PERSON SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDRAW WITHDRAWALS, THAT RESPONSE, OR IF THAT PERSON HAS BEEN DEVOLVED A DISQUALIFY, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED A RESPONDENT.

A RESPONDENT ALSO INCLUDES ANY SUBSIDIARY OR PARENT COMPANY, A JOINT ENTERPRISE JOINT VENTURE, A PARTNERSHIP, UH, AND SUBCONTRACT.

SO ALL THOSE ARE CONSIDERED RESPONDENTS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ANTI LOBBY, AN AGENT IS ESSENTIALLY A PERSON AUTHORIZED BY THOSE RESPONDENTS WERE BY THAT RESPONSE TO ACT IN PLACE OF THAT RESPONDENT.

SO MAYBE THEY HIRED SOMEONE OR DELEGATED THAT AUTHORITY.

AND THE LAST DEFINITION IS THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON.

THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON IS THE ACTUAL CITY EMPLOYEE DESIGNATED BY THAT SOLICITATION AS THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR PURPOSES OF THAT SOLICITATION.

AND WHILE THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUED OR AFTER THAT SOLICITATION, IT SHOULD BEAR.

THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS ALLOWED COMMUNICATE REGARDING THAT SOLICITATION.

SO THE RESTRICTIONS ON LOBBY ARE IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME THE SOLICITATION PUBLISHES UNTIL ONE OF THREE, ONE TO THREE TIMES, THEY'LL THE SOLICITATION PUBLISHES ALL GOES INTO EFFECT AND IT IS IN EFFECT UNTIL ONE, THE SOLICITATION IS CANCELED AT THAT POINT IN TIME, ALL ENDS TO ANY CONTRACTS RESULTING FROM THE SOLICITATION FOR EXECUTED CONTRACTS EXECUTED, OR THE THIRD ITEM.

OUR OPTION IS 60 DAYS FOLLOWING CANCEL OPTIMIZATION.

SO LET'S SAY YOU ISSUE A SOLICITATION, ALL GOES INTO EFFECT, GOES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, AND THE CONTRACT IS NOT EXECUTED WITHIN 60 DAYS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THAT'S THE ALO.

WELL, SO JUST THAT'S OUR TIMELINE OR WHEN ALO APPLIES REAL QUICK, I'LL GO OVER WHAT IS RESTRICTED DURING, AND ESSENTIALLY A RESPONDENT OR AGENT CANNOT COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH CITY OFFICIAL OR A CITY EMPLOYEE, A SOUL CITY OFFICIAL, OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONERS INCLUDED IN ORDER TO BE ONE OF THE FOLLOW LINE PROVIDE YEAH, FORMATION ABOUT A RESPONDENT WILL RESPOND WITH RESPECT TO THIS SOLICITATION, THE COURAGE TO CITY TO REJECT ONE OR MORE RESPONSES CONVEY A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT SOLICITATION OR ASK A CITY OFFICIAL, UH, FAVOR OR OPPOSE RECOMMEND OR NOT VOTE FOR OR AGAINST CONSIDER OR NOT CONSIDER TAKE ACTION OR REFRAIN FROM TAKING ACTION ON APRIL OR DECISION IN REGARDS TO THAT.

SO STATION ITSELF, THE SECOND ITEM THAT IS, BUT IT DID, AND THIS REALLY APPLIES TO COMMISSIONERS AS CITY OFFICIALS, THE CITY OFFICIALS SHALL NOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THEY RESPONDENT REGARDING A RESPONSE.

WELL, THE SOLICITATION TO WHICH THE NO LOBBYING PERIOD OF LOSS.

SO ONCE THAT SUBSTATION IS ISSUED AND ANTI-CLOTTING ORDINANCES AND EXPECT NO LOBBY PERIOD, THE OFFICIAL SHALL NOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE RESPONDENT REGARDING SSKC.

AND IF THIRD RESTRICTED ITEMS AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, OTHER THAN THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON SHALL NOT CONTACT THE RESPONDING GARDENS.

SO CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES SHALL NOT CONTACT WITH THERE'S A FEW ITEMS THAT ARE PERMITTED UNDER THIS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT, THEIR AGENT, AND THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON, UH, COMMUNICATION THAT THEY RESPONDED OR THEIR AGENT AND WAITING TO CURRENT CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CITY COMMUNICATION BETWEEN A RESPONDENT AND THEIR AGENT AND A STAFF MEMBER, A LADY, AND SORT OF NON SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL MATTERS, FORMAL PROTEST HEARINGS DO NOT APPLY ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON.

SMALL MINORITY BUSINESS RESOURCE WAS DEPARTMENT DO NOT APPLY YEAH.

VACATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT'S ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY DO NOT APPLY COMMUNICATION MADE HERE IN A PROPERLY NOTICED MEETING THEY'LL BOND WITH THE TEXAS OPEN TO MULTIPLY AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY STAFF WHOSE OFFICIAL RESPONSIBILITY QUEEN'S SENDING INSURANCE, WHO IS THIS PATIENT ALSO DO WELL, IF YOU DO FEEL LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION, UH, THAT, SO I DON'T WANT TO RESPOND TO HIS REACHED OUT TO YOU AND WITH ME DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, UH, TO DISCLOSE THE VIOLATION, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT A CITY OFFICIAL OR EMPLOYEE THAT BECOMES AWARE OF THE VIOLATION, NOTIFY THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT PERSON IN WRITING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, THAT

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SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN WRITTEN LOGGING VIOLATION, AND YOU JUST NEED TO DISCLOSE THAT TO THE AUTHORIZED CONTENT.

AND IF THERE IS A VIOLATION, SO LET'S SAY A CONCERN IS SUBMITTED, IT'S REVIEWED, AND IT IS DETERMINED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A VIOLATION THAT RESPONDENT WILL BE DISQUALIFIED FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE SOLICITATION, AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN ANY RECENT ELICITATION.

SO THAT SAME PROJECT, THE RESPONDENT MAY APPEAL THIS DISQUALIFICATION TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ETHICS COMMISSION, WHERE THEY CAN REQUEST A HEARING, WILL THEY INDEPENDENTLY ARE OPPOSITE AND RESPONDENTS THAT VIOLATE THE ORBITS THREE OR MORE TIMES IN THE FIVE YEAR PERIOD TO BE SUBJECT TO DEPARTMENT.

UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN GENERAL, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THIS IS KIND OF WANT TO GO BACK AND GET ONE OR TWO POINTS.

SO ALS IN EFFECT FROM THE TIME OF SOLICITATION IS HIS ISSUE UNTIL THAT SOLICITATION IS CANCEL THERE'S EXECUTED CONTRACTS OR 60 DAYS AFTER COUNCIL ONE ITEM NUMBER, AND THE CITY OFFICIAL CANNOT CONTACT OR COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESPONDENT REGARDING THE RESPONSE TO THE SOLICITATION.

IF YOU FEEL THAT THAT HAS BEEN VIOLATED AND JUST NOTIFY THE OPERA.

AND SO THAT KIND OF WRAPS UP MY SUMMATION OF ALL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR RESPOND TO ANY CONCERNS.

THANK YOU, MATTHEW.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? I DO MATTHEW, MY NAME'S ANDREW, AND, UH, I AM A TENANT AND, AND WORK WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED.

SO I'M A COMMISSIONER, BUT I'M ALSO A TENANT AND A POTENTIAL BUSINESS.

UM, I'VE TRIED TO BE VERY CAREFUL, NOT THAT I KNOW MUCH INSIDER INFORMATION.

I CERTAINLY HAVEN'T VOTED OR DONE ANYTHING, BUT ARE THERE MORE DEEP LINES I MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING GOES WRONG.

YEAH.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE THAT THE ALO, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE WORRIED ABOUT, BUT POSSIBLY JUST DISCLOSING THAT POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UM, WHEN YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS ITEM OR DISCUSSING THAT ITEM WITH THE COMMISSION WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO DO A COUPLE OF NICHES TO SEAN, YOUR CONCERNS.

AND WE CAN, WE HAVE A DISPOSURE FORMS FOR ANYBODY TO DISCLOSE THAT INFORMATION WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THERE MAY BE A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

AND JUST TO, TO NOTE IT AND MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE CITY BOSTON'S LEGAL REVIEW.

THOSE DETERMINE IF IT REALLY IS A CONFLICT OR IF IT'S JUST A APPRECIATE THE DISCLOSURE.

UM, SO, SO I WOULD GO DOWN THAT PATH.

UM, IF, IF YOU ARE PART OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS SUBMITTING A RESPONSE, I'M A TENANT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YEAH, I THINK YOU WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU DISCLOSE THAT POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE ALO WOULD APPLY TO YOU IS LESS THAT PROPERTY OWNER OR GROUP ASKS YOU SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOLICITATION.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE ADVISE CITY STAFF AND SAY, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

WE ARE ONLY THE CATALOGING MOVEMENTS, NO LOBBY PERIOD.

AND THEN JUST EMAIL THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT.

AS I SAID, WE HAVE CASES LIKE THIS THAT COME UP ALL THE TIME AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY INNOCENT COMMENTS OR DISCUSSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE JUST SAY, SUBMIT EVERYTHING YOU FEEL MAY BE A VIOLATION, YOU'LL REVIEW IT.

AND MANY OF THEM ARE NOT.

UM, BUT IF THEY ARE LIKE YOU, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TRIED TO TAKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, STEPS IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

YEAH.

ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, IF YOU CAN SEND TO EITHER MYSELF OR KIM MCCARSON, WE CAN SEND OUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF TO THE COMMISSION.

ABSOLUTELY.

BE HAPPY TO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COMMISSIONING RULES CAN HEAR YOUR GRAM, TRY GRAHAM.

YOU'RE NOT MUTED.

I CAN SEE YOU AS NEEDED, BUT I JUST COULDN'T HEAR YOU WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE YOU GO.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

UH, SO I'M JUST SLIGHTLY CONFUSED BY IT.

FIRST OF ALL,

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THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.

IS THAT ALREADY A SOLICITOR? SO THE, THE RFI TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT'S CLOSED.

UM, SO IT WAS THAT THERE'S NO CURRENT EXISTING ANTI LOBBYING WORK IT'S IN THE LOBBY PERIOD.

WHEN THAT REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION ISSUES, THERE WILL BE ANTI LOBBY ORDINANCE WILL BE IN EFFECT AND THE LOBBYING PERIOD WILL START.

AND THE SUBSEQUENT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, THAT'S GOING TO BE ISSUED.

SAME THING THAT ONCE IT'S ISSUED AND NO LOBBYING PERIOD EQUAL START ON THAT AS WELL.

CURRENTLY YOU'RE THERE IS NO ALL.

SO, AND THEN IN SERVING A ROLE AS COMMISSIONER IS NOT, I UNDERSTAND THE UNDO INSIDER INFORMATION OR THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN A VERY CONFUSING PROCESS TO THE COMMUNITY.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE MOST ABOUT IT IN THEORY.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT FOLKS WOULD THAT WE WOULD BE A SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN'T OR SHOULDN'T BE, IS THAT CORRECT? ONCE THE RFQ IS IN PLACE, ALL QUESTIONS.

IF YOU GET QUESTIONS, IF YOU CAN FORWARD THEM OR TO SEAN RELIG, SHE'LL BE THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT BEFORE WE ISSUE THE RFQ, WHICH IS NOT OUT YET.

AND THE RF, THE ANTI LOBBY WORKS, DIDN'T APPLY IT.

DOESN'T APPLY TO THE RFI AND IT'S CLOSED.

WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS PRETTY FREELY NOW, UM, UNTIL THEN, UM, AND SO WE ALSO ARE ON OUR SPEAK-UP AUSTIN WEBSITE, POPULATING EVERY SINGLE QUESTION THAT WE'VE GOT FOR INFORMATION, AND EVEN AFTER, CAUSE WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS COMING IN ABOUT THE PROCESS.

WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO ANSWER AND POST THEM PUBLICLY.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION UNTIL THE RFQ IS OUT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT INVOLVES REALLY HAVING SEAN, WILL IT BE THE AUTHORIZED LEAD IN THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION? AND YOU WOULD JUST BE FORWARDING QUESTIONS TO SEAN? WELL, SO KNOWING THAT SEAN KNOWING THAT THIS PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE AND KNOWING THAT SEAN WILL IS THE ANSWER IS NOT CONSIDERED INSIDE INFORMATION, IT WILL BE PUBLIC IT'S PUBLIC, PUBLIC PUBLIC.

WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN THE RFI.

WE WE'VE PUBLICLY STATED IN THE RFP THAT WE ISSUED THAT SHE WOULD BE THE PROCUREMENT.

SO ANYTHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUBLICLY SAD, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PRESENTATIONS, ET CETERA, WE'RE PUTTING ON THAT SPEAK UP AUSTIN SITE, ALL OF THAT IS PUBLIC AND EASILY DISTRIBUTED.

SO IF A PIECE OF INFORMATION IS PUBLIC, CAN WE REPEAT IT TO SOMEONE WHO ASKS A QUESTION? YES.

IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION THAT WOULD SORT OF FALL UNDER THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION, SO IF POSSIBLE, RESPOND AND SAY, WHO'S THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT FOR CIGARETTES.

YOU COULD SAY, SEAN WILL, IS HE NEED TO TALK TO.

AND WHAT IS LIKE CHRISTINA HAS EXPLAINED A LOT ABOUT, UM, FROM MUSEUMS TO PRIVATE, LIKE THIS WAS VERY COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING.

I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF MAKING CLEAR A BLURRY PROCESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME.

AND, UH, THERE'S STILL JUST GOING TO BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE LIKE, CAN I APPLY FOR THAT? I, UH, DO I, AM I, WHERE DO I FALL IN THIS SPECTRUM? AND WE IT'S BEEN PUBLIC INFORMATION.

THIS IS PUBLIC, THIS IS PUBLIC AND PUBLICLY VETTED OR PUBLICLY SPOKEN.

AND THESE MEETINGS AND OTHERWISE IS THAT INFORMATION WE CAN SHARE OR NOT SHARE OR DO IT.

IS THAT ALSO A SHAWN WILL.

YES.

SO I WOULD DEFAULT DEFER ALL QUESTIONS ONCE THAT'S THE STATIONS AND DISTRIBUTE TO SHAWN THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHE WILL BE ANSWERING.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU, YOURSELF, GRAHAM ARE THE EXPERT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE.

SHE GETS THAT QUESTION FROM A HOSPITAL RESPONDENT.

SHE'S NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT.

SHE'S BEEN REACHED OUT TO THE EXPERT WHO KNOWS THAT, THAT ANSWER, GET THE ANSWER AND THEN PROVIDE THAT ANSWER TO THE RESPONSE.

SHE'S THIS, JUST TO ENSURE THAT ALL COMMUNICATIONS OPEN, THE CITY'S AWARE OF IT.

THERE'S NO BACK CHANNEL LOBBY OR THING LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

AND THEN I GUESS IT STILL SEEMS CONFUSING, BUT I THINK I GET THE BASICS.

UH, I THINK STEWART IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

WHEN YOU SAY SUBCONTRACTORS, I MEAN, HE'S NOT EXACTLY A SUBCONTRACTOR, BUT MUSIC IS SUCH AN INTERWOVEN BUSINESS OF CASUAL TO FORMAL CONTRACTS AND BUSINESS AGREEMENTS.

UH, WE, IT, ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE HAVING REGULAR GIGS, WHICH ARE STARTING TO HAPPEN, SO NOW IT'S OUR VENUES, YOU KNOW, I'M PLAYING GAY FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MINE.

THAT'S A SUB CONTRACT.

LIKE WE'RE,

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SO FOR THE PERSON WHO'S PARTY TO THE APPLICATION.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE A MUSICIAN WHO'S GETTING BOOKED IN AN EVENT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PART OF THAT RESPONSE.

LIKE IF THE OWNER OF THE EVENT, THEN YOU IS THE RESPONSE OR THE MANAGER OF THAT EVENT.

SO THOSE, DID YOU NOT SAY THAT A SUBCONTRACTOR IS A RESPONDENT? YEAH.

SO YEAH.

TAKE FOR INSTANCE.

AND MAYBE THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS A BAD EXAMPLE.

SO I'LL GO TO SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE, LIKE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

UH, YOU'VE GOT A, A CONSTRUCTION TEAM THAT SAYS I CAN BUILD THIS BUILDING FOR THE CITY.

AND THEN I HAVE THESE THREE SUBCONTRACTS SUBCONTRACTORS.

ONE'S AN ARCHITECT AND AN ENGINEER.

ONE IS A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE INDIVIDUAL.

SO THE RESPONDING WITHIN A GROUP, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AND THEIR THREE SUB CONTRACTORS THAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO USE TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

AND SO, SO TO ME, I'M A MUSICIAN OR A BAND SEEMS EXACTLY LIKE THE PLUMBER, THE ELECTRICIAN IN THAT CONTEXT SAY I'M TEXAS PERFORMING ARTS AND I'M PUTTING ON A SHOW.

AND I SAY, INSTEAD OF BUILDING A BUILDING, I CAN PRESENT AN EVENT AND I'M GOING TO HIRE AN ENGINEER AND THE LIGHTING PERSON AND THE SOUND PERSON AND THE ARTIST ALL TO CREATE THIS EVENT AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS THING.

AND INSTEAD OF MAKING A BUILDING, THEY'RE MAKING MUSIC AND THEY'RE BEING PAID.

IT SEEMS LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE A SUBCONTRACTOR AGREEMENT TO ME.

YES.

THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL INCLUDES THAT LIST OF INDIVIDUALS WITH A LIST OF COMPANIES THAT COMPRISE THEIR TEAM AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CONSIDERED ITSELF.

SO I THINK WE, WE HAVE, UH, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCONNECT HERE THOUGH.

AND I THINK THE DISCONNECT IS BETWEEN WHO IS ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO BE A FACILITY OPERATOR TO, AND TO BE PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S DELIVERING THE SPACE VERSUS MAYBE A USER OF THE SPACE FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD WHEN IT'S BUILT.

UM, TO ME THERE'S A LEGAL LIABILITY THAT IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S SUBMITTING TO BE ROUGH FACILITY OPERATOR AND OR HELP CONSTRUCT AND INFORM THE CREATIVE SPACE, NOT TO USE IT AT SOME TIME DOWN THE ROAD, THROUGH A BOOKING, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A PARTY TO THE LEGAL AGREEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BIND THEM TO DELIVERING ON $12 MILLION CREATIVE SPACE BOND.

THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A PARTY TO THE AGREEMENT.

AND THAT WOULD BE A SUBCONTRACT.

OKAY.

THAT HELPS.

I MEAN, THE REASON I'M ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS, CAUSE LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF US, BUT I WORK WITH FILM PEOPLE AND THEATER PEOPLE AND DANCE PEOPLE AND MUSIC FOLKS IN VENUES.

AND LIKE I'M CONSTANTLY TALKING TO PEOPLE.

ANY OF THEM MIGHT BE PART OF ONE OF THESE PROPOSALS AND I DON'T WANT TO ACCIDENTALLY SCREW UP THEIR CHANCES BY ENGAGING IN A CONVERSATION OR SHARING WHAT INFORMATION THAT I CONSIDER PUBLIC.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT PUBLICLY AND THEN TURNS OUT TO SLIDE OVER THE LINE OF INSIDER.

YEAH.

AND THEN THAT INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ADVISE CITY STAFF AND CITY OFFICIALS, ONCE THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUE, DON'T TALK THAT PUBLICLY.

AND THAT WAS PART OF MY QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO POSE TO SEAN IS RATHER THAN FIGURE OUT ALL THE DETAILS, JUST FIND OUT WHAT I CAN SAY TO FARE.

IF I THINK TWICE I COULD GO TO, I DON'T WHAT I CAN SAY.

SO THAT WAY I SCREWED UP, THAT WOULD BE MY, CERTAINLY MY PREFERENCE FOR HOW THIS WORKS.

YEAH.

AND I CAN GO OVER THAT KIND OF BRIEF LIST OF WHAT IS PERMITTED WHILE WE ARE AN ANTI LOBBYING PERIOD AGAIN, SO THAT THERE'S ONLY, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 10, 12 OF THEM, BUT SO COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THAT RESPONDENT AND THE AUTHORIZED CONTACT VERSUS, OR IF THAT COMMUNICATION TAKES PLACE IN THE PRESENCE OF THE AUTHORIZED PERSON.

SO WITH SEAN, SO YOU AND A RESPONDENT, OR HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH SEAN THERE THAT'S OKAY.

INDICATION WITH THE RESPONDENT OR AGENT RELATING TO A CORRECT CONTRACT.

SO IF THEY HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE RESPONDENT OR THEIR AGENCY STAFF MEMBER RELATING TO NON SUBSTANTIAL PROCEDURAL MODEL MATTERS.

UM, SO A GOOD EXAMPLE, I THINK FOR THEM AS WELL IS IF THEY ASK MAYBE AUTHORIZED CONTACT IS THAT'S A NON PROCEDURAL MATTERS, UH, ANYTHING RELATED TO PROTESTS OR HEARINGS IN BETWEEN THAT RESPONDENT AND SMB ARE LAID INTO A SMALL AMOUNT OF BUSINESS RESOURCE PROGRAMS, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN

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SO INSIDE OF THAT, ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION NEEDS, UH, IF YOU ARE A CITY OFFICIAL OR A SAFETY STAFF, AND THAT'S WHY WE SAY ALWAYS DIFFER WHEN THAT SOLICITATION IS ISSUED.

AND UNTIL THAT CONTRACT IS CANCELED AND COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, IT ALWAYS DEFER TO, YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE OFFICE BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS ACCIDENTALLY GET SOMEONE IN TROUBLE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS.

UM, WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO, TO SEE THIS GO TO FRUITION.

UH, BEEN A LOT OF WORK BY A LOT OF FOLKS, UM, TRYING TO GET THIS TOGETHER.

AND IT'S, UH, IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED WITH THAT.

UM, EARLIER I TRIED TO, UH, MOBLEY DURING SUSAN'S COMMUNICATION.

I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND HE WAS ON THE LINE, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO CONNECT HIM IF HE IS STILL AVAILABLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM TO SPEAK AGAIN, AS HE WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM TWO B, WHICH WILL BE UP NEXT.

SO MOBILY, ARE YOU THERE? I'M HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

UM, WELL THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR BEING FLEXIBLE AND LETTING ME COME BACK.

SORRY ABOUT THE EARLIER, UM, I AM SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF A SMALL, SOMEWHAT INFORMAL GROUP OF MUSICIANS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME COMMUNITY BUILDING DURING, DURING THIS DOWN PERIOD, UH, AS A RESULT, I THINK OUR WORK KIND OF INTERSECTS WITH THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA POINT IN THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USING A PROJECT TO, UH, TO KIND OF TRY TO CHECK THE PULSE OF, UH, LIVE MUSICIANS IN THE CITY.

UH, GIVEN THAT LIVE PERFORMANCES IS BASICALLY AT A STANDSTILL AT THIS POINT.

AND, UM, IT'S BEEN ON A NUMBER OF LEVELS.

IT'S KIND OF A TIME OF RECKONING FOR THE COUNTRY AND FOR THE CITY.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THINK THROUGH APPROACHES TO IMPROVE THE STATUS QUO, UH, FOR, FOR LIVE MUSICIANS HERE IN THE CITY AND, UH, THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND WHICH I WANTED TO BRING THE COMMISSION IS, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE ENGAGED A LOCAL NONPROFIT MEASURE WHO IS HELPING US, UH, THEY'RE WORKING PRO BONO TO HELP US TO DEVELOP A SURVEY, UH, THAT WE'D LIKE TO PUT OUT, TO BE LIVE MUSICIANS IN THE CITY, UM, AGES TO KIND OF SEE HOW EVERYBODY IS MANAGING THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

UH, BUT THEN, THEN ALSO TO SPECIFICALLY, UH, KIND OF GET UP, GET A PULSE ON WHAT PEOPLE'S FEELINGS ARE ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE WORKING IN THE CITY FOR LIVE MUSICIANS AND IN PARTICULAR, UM, AREAS IN WHICH THERE CAN BE IMPROVEMENTS AROUND EQUITY AND AROUND, UM, AROUND, UH, PREVENTING DISCRIMINATION OF VARIOUS KINDS THAT WE KNOW, UM, GOES ON.

SO ANYWAY, THE IDEA IS TO, UH, TO PERFORM THIS, TO CONDUCT THIS SURVEY AND THEN, UM, TAKE THE RESULTS OF THAT AND TURN THEM INTO, UH, COFFEE IDEAS TO HELP, UH, REMEDIATE THE SITUATION AROUND EQUITY AND THE CITY.

AND MY ASK ME THE REASON THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THIS WAS, UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS SO SQUARELY WITHIN THE MANDATE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, WE WONDERED WHETHER THERE WOULD BE INTEREST IN CONDUCTING THE SURVEY KIND OF UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE AREN'T A TON OF RESOURCES TO BRING TO BEAR ON THIS WEEK.

LIKE I SAID, WE, WE HAVE WE'VE ENGAGED THE NONPROFIT, UM, PRO BONO.

SO THERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SURVEY AND THE DISSEMINATION OF THE SURVEY IS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED AND READY TO KIND OF SPREAD THE WORD.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO KIND OF ORGANIZATIONAL AND PREMATURE ON IT.

AND, UM,

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OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR STICKING AROUND.

I'M SORRY ABOUT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EARLIER.

UM, AND THANK YOU FOR SORT OF YOUR THOUGHTS WITH

[2b. Discussion and Possible Action on Live Music Fund recommendations with specific attention to systemic racism and equity. ]

WE CAN GO TO TWO B, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND RECOMMENDATIONS WITH SPECIFIC ATTENTION TO SYSTEMATIC RACISM AND EQUITY, UH, AND JUST TO KIND OF UPDATE EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND LIVE MUSIC, A WORK FUND WORKING GROUP HAD THEIR FINAL MEETING RECENTLY, AND THEY, THEY HAD RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, CAN ANYONE FROM THAT WORKING GROUP KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHERE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS LANDING, I WOULD RECOMMEND GAVIN OR POSSIBLY AND CHARLOTTE TO SPEAK ON IT? SURE.

SO, UM, YEAH, IF, UM, CHAKA AND GAVIN, IF YOU WILL JUMP IN TO CORRECT ME, UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION DOCUMENT THAT WAS PRODUCED.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY AT A HIGH LEVEL, WHAT THAT RECOMMENDS AS THAT, UM, AND ADVISORY BOARD BE FORMED, UM, CONSISTING OF, UH, AN EXECUTIVE BOARD AND THEN SUB COMMITTEES.

AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AS A MUSIC COMMISSION, LIKE HOW, HOW THAT NEWS FOR, IN TERMS OF BEING FORMED OR PLANTED.

AND THEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SUICIDE, IS THAT THE EQUITY PART OF THAT, HOW THAT'S GONNA, HOW THAT'S GONNA FUNCTION GOING FORWARD WITH THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING FUND THAT'S RIGHT.

UH, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

YEP.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T CONCLUDE WAS, UH, AN INITIAL BOARD, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHO MIGHT COMPRISE THE BOARD THAT WOULD, UH, UH, DO A COUPLE OF THINGS PUT TOGETHER, UH, IDENTIFY THE, THE SECTORS, UH, THAT WOULD CREATE THIS CROSS SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, INCLUSIVITY.

AND THEN THAT BODY WOULD ALSO HELP WRITE THE CRITERIA.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION, AS IT'S GIVEN TO THIS, TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION NOW IS STILL A NEED.

UH, IF WE WANT TO ENGAGE THAT, UH, VINNIE CRITERIA BEING LAID OUT AT THIS POINT, IF NOT, IF WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE CRITERIA ON THE USES OF THIS FUND, THEN ARE WE GOING TO RECOMMEND BODIES OR EVEN INDIVIDUALS WHO WE MIGHT WANT TO SEE ON THIS GROUP? WHAT WAS THE WRECK? JUST SO I UNDERSTAND A WORKING GROUP TO NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ASPECT? NO, WE WERE DISCUSSING THAT WHEN, UM, WE HAD TOOK IT, TAKEN OUR BREAK.

SO WE'RE AT THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW WHERE IT WAS FORWARDED WITH THAT THOUGH, WITHOUT THOSE CONTAINERS.

AND THEN, YEAH, JUST TO REMIND Y'ALL, UM, WHEN, SO NOVIA PRESENT US A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, LIKE THE CITY HAS ASKED US FOR SOME HIGH LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY CAN OPERATIONALIZE.

SO WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE CITY.

UM, SO THAT, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PRETTY BROAD, BUT, UM, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING HERE FOR US TO DISCUSS, SO THAT THERE'S GUIDANCE, UH, FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD GOING FORWARD.

YEAH.

AND I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHENEVER WE'RE DONE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC TO ALIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP, BUT I FELT LIKE THE LIVE MUSIC WORKING GROUP GOT US TO A POSITION WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH OF A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING TO THE CITY AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON DEVELOPING IT.

IT'S NOT FULLY REALIZED, BUT I THINK IT'S IN A PLACE WITH ENOUGH, UM, INFRASTRUCTURAL IDEAS AND CONCEPTS, OR WE CAN CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO HONE THOSE THINGS AS, UH, AND CHARLOTTE WAS SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS IN NOVEMBER.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE HAD MET AS A GROUP SINCE JUNE, UM, SINCE I RAISED ISSUES AROUND EQUITY, UM, WE FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO MEET.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR STEPPED DOWN AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL HAS STEPPED DOWN.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST TIME TO WRAP UP WHERE WE WERE AT AND KIND OF MOVE FORWARD AND GIVE THE CITY, AT LEAST SOME OF, SOME OF THE IDEAS AND

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AND I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYBODY ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION GOT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE CAN, WE CAN DEAL WITH THOSE OR, UM, I HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC, UM, EQUITY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WANT TO RAISE TO TAKE THIS IN CHUNKS.

AND SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY THOUGHTS AROUND, UM, THE MAKEUP OF THAT BODY FIRST, WE WANT TO DECIDE THAT THIS EVENING, UM, WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE AGAIN, WHEN YOU GUYS WANTED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, COUNSEL HAS ASKED FOR SOME INFORMATION THE BEGINNING OF NOVEMBER, BUT IF, UM, THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULDN'T LIKE IT AND OUR INFORMATION WOULD LIKE BY THE END OF NOVEMBER SO THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHEN WE'RE OUT TALKING, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.

SORRY.

SO NOW IF YOU NEED SOME MORE TIME, I JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT TOO WELL.

I'M THINKING POSSIBLY WE COULD BURN AGAIN, THIS IS UP TO EVERYONE, BUT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND DEVELOP OTHER STONE.

SO YOU'VE GOT TO JUST HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH, UM, AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WE WORK MORE ON THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S NOT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE I'M ON TWITTER? UH, I'M, I'M UNCLEAR WHAT THE, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING OVER THE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG DOCUMENT.

THE 10 PAGE DOCUMENT ARE, UM, ARE, ARE, THIS IS A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FORMING A BOARD, BUT DOES IT DEFINE WHAT THE BOARD'S ROLE IS AND, OR IS IT A RECOMMENDATION FOR HOW THE MONEY SHOULD BE ALLOCATED? UH, LIKE WHAT, OR IS IT A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH? I THINK IT'S PRIMARILY ESTABLISHED WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOARD IS, AND HOW IT WORKS.

YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MEMBERS, WHAT THE ROLES ARE NOT GET INTO DETAIL ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC TYPES OF PROGRAMMING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE FUNDED OR A SPECIFIC DIRECTION.

SO WHAT, UH, WHAT DOES THE BOARD DO EXACTLY? OKAY, WELL, LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ IT.

SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THIS TO THE ADVISORY BOARD.

UH, THE WORKING GROUP DELIBERATED EXTENSIVELY REGARDING THE STRUCTURE OF A CITIZENS LED ADVISORY BOARD TO GOVERN THE USE OF FUNDS, OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE BOARD SHOULD CON SHALL CONSIST OF 13 MEMBERS, EACH SERVING ALTERNATING TWO YEAR TERMS, THE TWO TERM LIMIT, AND THE TWO TERM LIMIT CAN BE EXTENDED BY A SUPER MAJORITY TWO-THIRD VOTE OF THE BOARD.

UM, AND THEN THOSE TERMS SHOULD RUN, UH, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, UH, THE BOARD WOULD BE DIVIDED INTO TWO GROUPS, GROUP AND GROUP BEACH, SERVING ALTERNATING TERMS, UH, SIMILAR TO CITY COUNCIL, THE TEN ONE.

AND THAT STARTED, UH, AGAIN, WE DIDN'T DIVE INTO WHAT SECTORS THOSE 13 MEMBERS WOULD POSSIBLY BE BY NOR WHAT CRITERIA THEY WOULD CREATE, UM, FOR USES OF THIS HOTEL TAX.

SO IT'S CALLED AN ADVISORY BOARD, BUT THEN YOU ALSO SAID IT WOULD BE A GOVERNING BODY.

SO IS IT, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD ALLOCATE FUNDS AND DISTRIBUTE FUNDS OR ARE THEY LITERALLY JUST RECOMMENDING, LIKE, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THEIR POWER OR NON-POWER POWER? WHAT IS THEIR PURVIEW? I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE UP TO THE CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE MUSIC OFFICE.

I THINK WE, I DON'T THINK WE GOT THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I THINK IT WAS KIND OF LIKE POSSIBLY A PANEL TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT OR WE, WE JUST, WE HADN'T WORKED THAT OUT.

SO LIKE, I FELT LIKE, AGAIN, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I FELT LIKE WE CAN FLESH OUT.

THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THE CITY'S LOOKING FOR DIRECTIONS.

THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT OBVIOUSLY HASN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GONE INTO FULL, FULL DETAIL, BUT IT IS, IT IS A DIRECTION, UM, THAT PROVIDE SOMETHING.

MAYBE THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE 15 PEOPLE, MAYBE THEY THINK, OH, THEY DON'T LIKE ANY OF IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S A, IT'S A SUGGESTION THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAME UP WITH,

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IT'S A WORKING DOCUMENT, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE JUST HAD TO KIND OF END THAT PHASE OF, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THE WORK.

AND WE DID SO, AND I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE THIS FORWARD OR NOT.

UM, BUT THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CREATED AS A GROUP.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, SO TWO QUESTIONS, ONE, THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDS THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

WAS THAT A UNANIMOUS THING? I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE BROAD ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE WORKABLE.

I MEAN, IT DOES DEFINE ROLES ON THAT BOARD.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE REVIEWING GRANTS, UM, A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S LOOKING FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING THROUGH PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

UM, SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK ALL OF THAT IS A GOOD BREAK DOWN.

UM, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MUSIC COMMISSIONERS WOULD SERVE ON THE BOARD.

LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT IN TERMS OF THE BOARD STRUCTURE ITSELF, WE DID TALK ABOUT SECTORS, UM, FROM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ECONOMIC SECTORS OR MUSIC INDUSTRY SECTORS SHOULD BE REPRESENTED.

UM, BUT I'VE, I FEEL LIKE, YEAH, WHAT'S MISSING IS THAT, THAT SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WOULD BE REVIEWING GRANT PROPOSALS, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DIRECTION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING TO FUND WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE BACK TO THE, THE MUSIC COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD, OR WOULDN'T BE FUNDED.

AND HE SORT OF FOCUSED WITH THAT SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I THINK THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FUND IS TO, TO BUILD A MUSIC ACADEMY, UM, PROPEL IT FORWARD.

SO WE NEED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT'S FOR THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IS IT FOR AFFORDABILITY AND WE'RE GIVING RENT STIPENDS, LIKE THAT'S KIND OF A, A CERTAIN, VERY CLOSE INTO THING, OR IS IT FOR THINGS THAT WOULD PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WHOLE ECONOMIC MUSIC ECONOMY SEC, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE WE FUNDING INNOVATION? ARE WE LOOKING, YOU KNOW, FOR A LEG UP FOR CERTAIN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES? AND I MEAN, I THINK THAT CERTAINLY WE ARE WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT.

UM, SO THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, IN MY OPINION, FOR US TO DEFINE THOSE THINGS.

YEAH, FOR ME, IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU'VE DONE A TON OF WORK AND IT'S SO DETAILED, WELL ORGANIZED DOCUMENT.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON NOT TO, FOR THAT SET OF INFORMATION ONTO CITY STAFF.

I AM CURIOUS FROM SYNOVIA FOR YOUR NOVEMBER DEADLINE OR WHATEVER, EXTENDED TIMELINE WE DETERMINED.

WHAT, UH, WHAT OTHER, WHETHER THERE'S ANYTHING, OTHER TYPES OF INFORMATION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO GIVE YOU AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, AGAIN, HIGH LEVEL, IF YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFICS, GIVE THOSE TO ME.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY, I DON'T WANT STAFF TO BE ACCUSED OF STAFF IS TELLING WHAT TO DO.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS HEAR FROM YOU, TAKE THAT BACK, SEE HOW WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE IT, LINE IT UP WITH OUR OTHER DIVISIONS, MAKE SURE LAW HAS APPLIED, WHICH THE EQUITY OFFICES ARE FINE.

COME BACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEARD YOU HURT THE COMMUNITY AND THEN SAY, THIS IS WHAT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

I DON'T WANT IT TO SAY THAT STAFF DID NOT KNOW STAFF IS TAKING WHAT YOU TELL IT, US, SEEING HOW WE CAN OPERATIONALIZE IT AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU.

BUT WHATEVER YOU THINK, I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS IS PART OF A PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION IN NOVEMBER.

THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS IS SHOWING THEM WHERE WE'RE AT, WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

AND IF THIS DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS A CONVERSATION, THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE.

UM, THIS DOESN'T LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING IS STONE.

UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A PART OF THE PROCESS.

SO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANNA ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIKE KIND OF WHERE IT'S HEADED, THEN, LIKE LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON.

CORRECT.

AND I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE IT IN SEMINAR.

I SECOND THAT MOTION A REGULAR THAT, RICK, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

UM, AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN FURTHER THE QUESTION.

YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION FROM SONODA.

YES OR NO.

I JUST

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I ASKED HER TO SIT IN TO LESSONS.

SO THE EQUITY OFFICE IS OBAMA'S JOURNEY WITH US.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, KELLY.

ALRIGHT.

IS IT OKAY FOR ME TO TAKE THE FLOOR CHAIR? YES, PLEASE.

UM, I WANNA, UH, FIRST, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, MOWGLI WHAT HE OFFERED.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD KNOW BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER THAT WE SHOULD, UM, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, TAKING ON THAT SURVEY POSSIBLY WITHIN THE, UM, SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP AND MAKING THAT PART OF OUR WORK.

UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING OUT THAT CENSUS AND JUST BECOMING AN ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES THAT ON.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THAT BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER, BUT I PREPARED SOMETHING FOR THE DAY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, CONCERNS WITH HOT TAX FUNDS AND EQUITY AND, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW TO ADDRESS EQUITY WITHIN, UH, WITHIN, WITH THE HOT TAX FUNDS.

FIRST, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TREMENDOUS CHALLENGE OF THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS FOR NOT JUST THE WORLD, BUT PARTICULARLY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CREATE SPACE FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES DURING THIS TIME, USE THE DUTY FOR THE PANDEMIC OR OTHERWISE, BECAUSE NO MATTER WHY THE LOSS OCCURRED, THE PAIN AND GRIEF CUTS A LITTLE MORE DEEP DURING THIS PARTICULAR CHAPTER OF HUMAN HISTORY, EVERYTHING BECOMES AMPLIFIED IN TIMES LIKE THESE, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FORCED TO GO INSIDE AND STAY HOME.

THIS PAST AT HOME HAS PUSHED MANY TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO ASK, SEE THINGS THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO SEE AND FEEL THINGS THEY PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FEEL SPENDING MORE TIME AWAY FROM THE DAILY MUNDANE RITUALS AND ACTIVITIES THAT MAY DISTRACT US FROM OUR SHORTCOMINGS AS INDIVIDUALS OR AS A SOCIETY.

AS FAR AS CONFLICT INTENTION, TO RISE TO THE SURFACE.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS TENSION MANIFEST AS PROTEST IN THE STREETS AND WITH DIRECT CALLS FOR INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE WITHIN FEDERAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THERE HAS BEEN NOWHERE TO RUN OR HIDE FOR MONTHS.

AND COLLECTIVELY RESIDENTS HAVE HAD TO FACE MANY OF THE CITY'S MOST PROMINENT AND TROUBLING FAILURES HEAD ON FOR MANY EMPOWER FACING ISSUES OF INEQUITY AND THE DEMANDS FOR CHANGE THAT COME ALONG WITH THEM FEELS LIKE EVEN MORE LOSS ON TOP OF THE LOSSES THAT COLGATE HAS DIRECTLY ROCKED TO OUR COMMUNITIES.